In Working-Class Ohio, Obama Meets Amorous Dogs, Skeptical Plumber

Imagine that! Interacting and talking with people not part of a crazed mob.
Maybe McCain should try it.

GO OBAMA – well done.

More valuable news from the ALL-BAMA-CHANNEL … ABC is becoming a joke they are so biased! Notice Obama didn’t buy 30-minutes from them … because he gets all the free airtime and webspace he wants for free from ABC!!!

What a great feeling to be excited about
the candidate I’m voting for, with firm knowledge that he is a good leader and
will unite America, not divide.I am so
proud to be casting my vote for Obama/
Biden. And Biden, what an honor to have you as V.P., I wish we could put you both in the whitehouse tomorrow! Thank You for caring enough about America to run an honorable campaign, for wanting to unite, not divide the country.Obama/Biden, the only way to vote!!

There is something about this man, Obama … an intangible quality that makes me think he will one day be remembered as the greatest President America has ever had. When all the furor of this intense campaign has died down, Obama will get to work to unite this country and get us back to the glory days again. It will take time, perhaps even both of his terms in office, but he will do it methodically and decisively.

GO Obama!

Gee, Obama trying to pander to the common man, while, in private at millionaire shindigs in San Fran, says that “they” (not “we”) are bitter and clinging to guns and religion.
Obama is not a man who cares about people, he is the the greasy politician who will do anything, and hurt anyone, to get your vote. Obama cares only about one person, and that is himself.
Don’t believe Obama’s lies, he will only disappoint you in the end. What has he ever done or accomplished to show that he cares about America?
McCain has spent his life dedicated to service and this country. He has proven it, and now is ready to serve as President.
Not to mention that McCain has spent this entire campaign in townhall meetings all across this country, ready and willing to answer your qeustions and concerns. Obama does his best to avoid questions, unless it is a tightly controlled photo opportunity.

Well said sophie! I feel the same way

Once again, Obama shows why he is more in touch with the common folk.
I am so proud to support this man.

“Not to mention that McCain has spent this entire campaign in townhall meetings all across this country, ready and willing to answer your qeustions and concerns”
You mean the angry mob that fawned over McCain until he was losing? Those town halls?
Last town hall McCain got his butt kicked.
Town halls are tougher when there are follow up questions.

A blog post about Obama speaking with middle class voters gets this response
“we are becoming more and more socialist”
Its quite amusing to see right wingers get pushed by their media.
Since you guys can’t think for yourselves and are quite gullible you actually believe the media that lies to you over and over again when they say socialism is coming.

Obama is the real deal. He’ll prove all the naysayers wrong as the 44th Prez of the USA. I cannot wait.

Mr Obama is Christian.
There are people who are so desperate to win for the GOP they are spreading many lies about him. When people get to hear him and meet him, they really get a sense of his sincerity, commitment and intelligence. At the end of the day, these qualities will win.
But there will always be those in the GOP who accuse him of being untrustworthy etc always.

Russell hates the contrast of Obama meeting regular people vs the Bund rallies McCain has been holding.

Obama is a true leader!! THis county is in need of a good leader we are longer over due. People stop listening to the negative stuff by the other side you cannot be that ignorant that you believe the over the top stuff.

tim 34 us states have presented proposals of secession-secession efforts are at the very foundation of our founding and as american as apple pie-
todd left aip over 5 years ago before sarah was even gov unlike obma who sat in WRIGHTS racist church for 20 years and never knew it was preaching racism and anti american rhetoric and only left under pressure and after he realized it could cost him the election.

Obama is a great American who has worked hard and scratched and and clawed his way to the top. He deserves All that he has got. He is a true inspiration that plays to people hopes instead of peoples fears. That is why every poll has him leading.

Tim,
“If anything, ABC is in the tank for McCain. Otherwise, they’d be running the “First Dude belonged to a Secessionist Party” 24/7 like they did the Wright story.”
Give it a couple of weeks. The news media will have NO CHOICE but to run the stories that expose Palin’s and McCain’s terrorist ties. By NOT showing them, McCain is able to wriggle out of his racially-motivated tactic and say “well Obama isn’t being truthful”.
Well the media needs to give McCain and Palin the opportunity to be truthful by exposing the stories about McCain’s and Palin’s ties to secessionists, hate-groups, pastors that preach war on non-white nations, unrepentant Nixon burglars, etc. They can’t be in the tank for either side unless they refuse to give McCain and Palin the opportunity to dispell what the American public now knows.
Obama/Biden 08!

JerseyWorld…that’s right I have far more in common with Hillary and McCain who are all about EXPERIENCE and a love of THIS COUNTRY!

LEADERSHIP THAT WE CAN TRUST & BELIEVE IN!!!
FOR THE PEOPLE, WITH THE PEOPLE!!!
KEEPING IT REAL!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN08

great story Jake. Just what the doctor ordered to wash off the stink of the last few days of the McCain campaign.
Thank you.
Go Obama/Biden/We the People 08!

Hope, Change, Hate, Nobama ’08, if experience was important to you, you would be far more concerned about McCain – he is backed by a complete incompetent. Obama has Biden to guide him and to take over should anything ever happen to him. Palin as President would place our country in grave danger. She has no experience and less gift for analytical thought than Obama, crucial if she is to rely on advisors. And at McCain’s age, a McCain presidency could easily turn into a Palin presidency, which scares me to death.

Even Oprah knew to leave Trinity after A YEAR, as it would hurt her with whites and her empire. But the Messiah stayed and only ditched them when he was found out in MARCH and then again in April, when Wright came out to play.
Wright is now in Witness Protection Program, (i.e. lockdown by Obama campaign).
Oprah had big wig fundraisers with the Obama’s Friday and Saturday night….where is the coverage? Were cameras off limits and no reporters allowed. Maybe he wanted to talk about the small town people BEHIND THEIR BACKS AGAIN.
Small town people will be the voters that DETERMINE THE OUTCOME OF THIS ELECTION.

GOEN LEE:
There is a reason for having such websites as “FACTCHECK.COM” I think you need to visit it. Get your facts straight about anything Obama or for that matter McCain has said, signed, or voted for. READ THEM IN DEPTH and make sure you understand them and why they signed, said, or voted for. This goes for every American that’s voting. GET THE FACTS FIRST.

. “”The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, And I won’t be buried under their damn flag.” These are the words of Joe Vogler, the leader of the Alaska Independence Party, of which TODD PALIN has been a member from 1995 to 2002. Sarah Palin visited the party’s convention several times, including in 2000. Governor Palin addressed this secessionist party’s convention JUST LAST YEAR!
The truth is it’s the Palins who have been palling around with TERRORISTS AND TRAITORS!

Common Sense, Louis Farrakhan (he and wife good friends of Obamas) refers to Barack as “the Messiah”. Republicans who go to church (and not the Black Liberation Theology kind) would never refer to anyone as the Messiah.

Well said, Liberati, folks please reread it nice and slow so it sinks in.

Farrakhan and Obama are not friends, colleagues or in any kind of relationship personal or professional.
The lesson as always?
Right wingers lie.

“eep us poste on that Troopergate thing and while you are at it let us know who Rezko is ratting out for his plea deal.”
I certainly will.
Who knows who Rezko is talking about, though in his trial the only name to come up was Blagoevich’s

Berg is “Outraged” that Obama & DNC
Hide Again Behind Legal Issues
as their attorney files a
Motion for Protective Order to “not”
Answer Admissions & Production of Documents
while Betraying Public in not Producing
Documents proving Obama is “qualified” to be a
candidate for President
It is believed Obama is an “illegal alien”
Country is Headed to a Constitutional Crisis
(who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of
“qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama
and Democratic National Committee [DNC] filed a Joint Motion for Protective Order to
Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on the Motion to Dismiss they filed on 09/24/08.
While legal, Berg stated he is “outraged as this is another attempt to hide the truth
from the public; it is obvious that documents do not exist to prove that Obama is
qualified to be President.” The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
Their joint motion indicates a concerted effort to avoid the truth by attempting to
delay the judicial process, although legal, by not resolving the issue presented: that is,
whether Barack Obama meets the qualifications to be President.
It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the
“qualifications” to be President of the United States pursuant to our United States
Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his “Vault” [original long
version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist.
Furthermore, and actually more important is Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship
that he received when he returned from Indonesia, as if it exists it would indicate that
Obama was “naturalized” and also not able to be President.
The DNC has promised “we the people” an Open and Honest Government and
has promised to uphold our United States Constitution. The DNC has failed their
promise. DNC Chairperson Howard Dean should resign as he has not and is not
fulfilling his responsibility of seeing that a “qualified” candidate is on the ballot
Why is no one reporting on this?

More valuable news from the ALL-BAMA-CHANNEL … ABC is becoming a joke they are so biased! Notice Obama didn’t buy 30-minutes from them … because he gets all the free airtime and webspace he wants for free from ABC!!!
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | Oct 12, 2008 6:35:13 PM
Maybe it’s because Obama is a better story and makes the news. Meanwhile, McFraud is the same old boring story that does not know if he is coming or going.
Also, maybe the news media is smart enough to see he will be the next President.

I really wish Carl Rove would stop sending out his people acting like X Hillary supporters for McCain. It didn’t work a month ago and its not working now. Hillary supporters are not
as dumbed down as Palin supporters and
would never fall for “no-regulation let
business rip you off” McCain.

Hannity and Colmes are going to give an unbiased report about Obama? Yeah right! They are liars with everything they have ever said about him.

I really wish Carl Rove would stop sending out his people acting like X Hillary supporters for McCain. It didn’t work a month ago and its not working now. Hillary supporters are not
as dumbed down as Palin supporters and
would never fall for “no-regulation let
corporations rip you off” McCain.

The United States was stolen from the Native Americans, It was not founded on Christianity.

Hope, Change and Hate is more full of hate it seems. Why do nasty attitudes support McCain?

OBAMA, A FRESH OF CLEAN AIR!!!!
NOV. 4TH = OBAMA/BIDEN 08

barack’s comments were hilarious, I love that guy!

If I was lucky enough to be on the block he walked, I would ask him a question no newsperson has, like these:
* When you worked with Bill Ayers on education reform in Chicago, did you further his efforts to use education for communist indoctrination of the next generation? And do you still agree with that emphasis for our youth?
* What is your stand on our relationship with our ally, Columbia? What is your stand towards Venezuela and their aid to FARC against our ally Columbia?
* Remind me, because I think it’s changed, of your views about ending NAFTA, our free-trade agreements with Mexico and Canada.
* Remind me, because I think it’s changed, of your views on the FISA issue of wiretapping foreign phone calls in the US.
…I think he would have walked away by the first question, so I’ll stop now.
He’s a cunning con-man, I’ll give ya that, but he is NOT who he says he is. Ignore the wall of words and study his acts. I want to vote for a black person for President in my lifetime, but it won’t happen this time.
John McCain is the man proven to stand for change, real change, good change. He may have his flaws, he may not walk on water, but he is the One.

i’d like to ask: is anyone who blogs here voting for mccain that has NOT voted for george bush twice…?

If you actually go into neighborhoods, guess what? nobody cares about bill ayers. Fear and suspicion are not persuading people who have enough fear to deal with. Fear is not the solution.
No one wants the race for the president in a time of crisis to be an episode of jerry springer. McCain from 2000 would be ashamed at his behavior today.
And guess who started that education charity whose board Obama and Ayers were on? Leonore Annenberg, A McCain-backing republican, so let’s can the BS.
Obama is our only shot to turn this thing around.

“I recall right after he clinched the nomination, when he suddenly changed positions on dozens of issues in rapid succession, taking a more centrist tack on the way to the general election”
Perhaps you can name a few since there are so many…according to you.

Once again Obama can’t close the deal with the working class. People that have to work hard for a living are not going to throw caution to the wind with someone that puts out a lot of rhetoric but does not have the record to match the rhetoric. McCain needs to focus on McCain’s record, it is second to none, and far superior to anything that Obama merely claims to have done.

welcome Marc
I think you should have a (and invite others to do the same) public burning of those rep. cards.
(sort of the way women burned their bras in the sixties.
and then i think you should start trying to find the real republicans help them regroup and come back for the next election.
the republican party as we have known it has been hijacked by this mccain/PALIN group.
it’s meaner, nastier, and it’s going to lose this time around.
have a public burning of that card on halloween-bonfire style.

ohmygod!reponded to -,You couldnt put anyone better than Obama up for the job, so the job is his.
Okay……if you think that and so we are where we are because he is the “best” we can do???? We are in a world of ####! We have barely let him near the White House and the whole world is crumbling! Typical!
So the world is in such bad shape because of Obama? How did he do all of this? I think you are insane!

The Americian people are starting to see who the real Americans are: Obama and Biden. Obama speaks in easy calm language everyone understands. He puts forward the message that this great country has to come together for all. Not divided and segregated as Palin and McCain is preaching.Just as another great president said. United we stand-divided we fall. This statement has never been more true than it is right now. I am confident Obama when elected, not if will go down in history as one of,if not the best president history has ever seen!!!

To the blogger who noted here: “Once again Obama can’t close the deal with the working class. ” Look again, of the 4 people, of voting age, mentioned in the story…he recruited 3 definite formerly “undecided” votes. Count ‘em. In my world, that’s closing a deal.

the world has watched the last eight years with the support and assistance of john mccain- as the american people have been knocked down.
well we have been knocked down before,
but it is time to get up.
do you all know that it is the american middle class that runs the engine of the world!
bush may have knocked up down. but we will get up.
GET UP AMERICAN! GET UP AMERICANS!
THE WORLD IS CHEERING FOR US
GET UP AMERICA!
JOE BIDEN TODAY IN A SPEECH IN PA
GE UP AMERICA!

“The FEC breakdown of the Obama campaign has identified a staggering $222.7 million as coming from contributions of $200 or less” This is because millions of ordinary Americans – like myself – of modest means are the contributors. Only 1% of the donations are in question – the same percentage as the McCain campaign’s.

Gotta get up to get down! Obam/Biden 08!!

I am a white woman in her sixties from Indiana and I have never been more proud of the candidate I will be voting for. Barack Obama has shown in many ways that he is for the Main Street working folks. By going door to door, he wants to let them know that he understands their their problems and he will help them. Barack Obama has shown that he is intelligent, thoughtful, confident, sincere and honest. His calm demeanor is exactly what is needed in the presidency and he is what America needs. I just wish he would knock on my door so I could give him a big hug and tell him how much I hope he wins!

OK, So somebody smart, tell us all what exactly is wrong with “socialism”

Senator Barack Obama does not connect to the real world American families I know, These are people who believe one is responsible for their own well fare, food on the table and a roof over their heads. Obama is cantering to people who are weak minded and lack the determination to change their world. Obama is catering to those who want a hand-outs paid for by the working Americans. He is a socialist–free housing, free food, free health care, free education, etc. Those with only a high school education or less are favoring Obama over McCain. People like Senator McCain and Governor Palin are the backbone of our country. They are good people-like our founding fathers had in mind to run our country. COUNTRY FIRST CANDIDATES.

It all sounds like an Abott and Costello skit;
Knock-knock: Who’s there ?
Obama !
Obama who ?
Obama who !

jpt: “…the man said, in comments interpreted by reporters as a reference to the Democrat’s proposal to increase income taxes on those making $200,000 or more a year.”
$250,000 not $200,000!

Folks, just think, the election is three weeks away.
In 3 weeks EVERYONE HERE will need a new hobby!
Use the new found time for good…

Steve Fought,
I feel for you in these hard economic times. I mean that sincerely. I am very thankful that I no longer live in Ohio and that our company is prospering here in the south. I know times are hard everywhere but that in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, they are especially grim.
This is why I would urge to reconsider your support for Obama. What in the things he has said convinces you that he would be more likely to provide the jobs you desperately need than McCain? He talks protectionist, antiNAFTA language when that is expedient and downplays it in the general election when it is not as popular. Who knows what positions he would actually take as president? He is said to be prounion because he is for destructive things like card check, which I think will drive more jobs to the less unionized and less likely to unionize states like Alabama and Georgia.
Most importantly, though, he proposed to pay for his expensive projects like his health care plan and for his tax breaks for the lower levels of tax payers (which you realize includes straight out checks to the 40% of the households that pay no taxes to begin with) with higher taxes on high income people and on companies. Who do you think provides the jobs you need? I have never gotten a job from a poor person. Not because poor people are not hard-working and caring, but because they have no money to pay others to work for them. It’s as simple as that. Obama wants to tax the engine of economic growth. He does not have proposals that will grow the economy as McCain’s will.
Obama talks idealistically about green jobs in alternative energy. A nice dream, one McCain shares. Those jobs may come eventually. McCain’s energy-related jobs, in offshore drilling and nuclear power plants, are more than just hoped-for; they can become real very quickly. I realize that a Toledo man is not likely to gain a job from offshore drilling, but the construction of nuclear power plants is a different story. Once the dozens of power plants McCain proposes to fasttrack are built, they will provide excellent high paying jobs for the long term as well.
McCain’s ideas for ending the economic crisis will bring an improved economy soon. Obama? His campaign admits he is being deliberately vague about what he would do, so as not to upset anyone and lose his lead in the polls. We don’t know if he can lead us out of this mess. We know McCain can. The sooner we have economic stability and a revived housing market and credit begins to flow again, the sooner job losses will slow and economic growth will return.
Seriously, look at the two men’s economic plans and ask yourself which one, in all honesty, you feel in your gut will realistically mean increased jobs in Toledo in the next few years and which will mean even fewer jobs. I hope that you will vote for McCain as a result.

Man i wish Sara would knock on my door. TEAMSTERS FOR MCCAIN 08

Barbara- then what would you call Palin “palling” around with traitors such as her husband who was until a few years ago a member of the Alaskan Independence Party which preached “armed insurrection against the federal government”? What would you say about the fact that just last year Palin gave a speech for the party? Obama never said that he was a member of the Muslim faith. He is a christian. He also has not been “buddying” around with terrorists. Ayers is a well respected leader in education and a professor at the University of Chicago whom happened to sit on the board with Obama. He played no role in Obama being selected to be chairman of the board. Now, if you want to talk about WHY Ayers is considered to be a “highly respected” professor considering his background, then that’s a whole other story. Obama did not “pal” around with terrorists. They were acquaintances.

Dear Moderate – I’ll read your whole thing after dinner. However, the trickle down theory and who makes jobs doesn’t hold water. So, take a breath. Most of the people running small businesses make the jobs and those people are also not making $250K. If there were ever an argument against the old and tired trickle down theory it is the golden parachutes given while hundreds of thousands of workers lose their jobs – and AIG VPs not thinking twice about taking tax payers money for their own, selfish indulgences.
Our country is seriously out of balance and it is the loss of the middle class that is doing this. A secure, educated middle class leads to job growth because this is where small businesses originate.
Take your vitamins. Love, Mom

Mary, You’ve got it backwards. Those with education are voting for Obama. We are the ones who understand the damage the Republicans have done to this country. The uneducated and ignorant will vote for McCain/Palin, out of racism and fear of what they don’t understand. And I know that people like yourself try to justify your unChristian selfishness with statements about the less fortunate being weak-minded and looking for handouts, but the fact is, self-centered people like you who have the attitude of “I’ve got mine, tough luck if you don’t have yours” are an embarrassment to a great nation.

All of you, stop focusing on the hate. If you make $35K per year and cannot afford health insurance, we will march to the White House for you, I promise.
Stop living in fear.
Have some cocoa and remember all those great stories I told you.
Love, Mom

Obama should campaign more in Florida, Nevada and Colorado. He has a much better chance in those states, and if he wins them he won’t even need Ohio.

–Obama/Biden 08–You are one of the BHO Koolaide drinkers supporting lie after one lie after another just so your socialist agenda can flourish. If one researches Obama’s background and associates, and earlier legislation, one must conclude he does not represent anyone who stands on their own feet to make their life better. Bet Hitler made the same bogus promises to take control and then ruined a nation. Jobs were lost in his state senate district while he was in control so how will he bring new jobs to all 50 states? He has no real knowledge on job creation, but his fake promises sound soooooo good. A million words of lies does not change the facts, The Democrats caused the sub-prime mortgage crises and even refused to change their policies when the Republicans pointed out trouble was coming. Making our big corporations and financial instutions government owned and overly controlled is just another step toward total socialism. America is evolving far away from traditional values to the very far radical right–taking the rights away from Americans. And I stand by my first posting as truth.
I am better off now than any other presidential administration and that is because I prepared for my future on my own and not depending on government hand-outs. McCain/Palin are for America values.

anyone who votes for McCain, Palin has to be somewhere out of this world. if something should happen to McCain, would you want Palin to run this country? McCain is a good man but is out of touch with how the middle class hurts.
Obana/Biden 08!

McHooverville – Mary: “The Democrats caused the sub-prime mortgage crises…”
That’s a LIE Mary. The GOP deregulated the financial industry. Fannie and Freddie only made 16% of the bad loans. The unregulated private sector made the rest.
sorry dude, but that was under the Clinton administration…
And did you know (Chicago Times) Obama was the legal representation for ACORN in the case against Citibank to force them to give sub-prime loans to people who could not afford down payments on a house?

McCain was born in Panama. Why is he even allowed to run?

Military bases aren’t automatically considered US soil. Only US embassies. Nice try.

McCain/Palin’08′ Real Statesman ,Real Mavricks, Real Deal!!!

Shawn, you are wrong. Military bases are considered US soil. I am speaking on experience now, my husband is retired US Army (25 years) so I lived on quite a few. Children born on military installations to military US citizens birth certificates read US citizenship automatically. No papers to file, ect..Because those stationed out side the US expect those in Iraq and it’s related areas pay taxes (US and State) just like everybody else. No exceptions.

Barack Obama has the potential to be one of the great leaders of our nation and I’m proud to support this man for the President of the United States. Joe Biden and he will make a great team and together we will join with them to change the world we live in for the good of our nation.
I will Vote Hope Not Hate.
Obama/Biden 2008

Gambi if you are voting “hope” then why vote Obama? Or is “hope” the only thing he can give this country?

I doubt we will see McCain and Palin going from door to door because it would mean taking a question from an actual voter, and the last time that happened they both ended up before Katie Couric!!!..

Carl – I don’t “dis” community organizers – I work directly with them – I KNOW what they do and especially what they DON’T DO. Like the old saying – those that can, do, those that can’t “organize.”

Here we are at the end of a Sunday three weeks from the election and the chief national correspondent of an American television network has managed 10 blog entries without touching on a single matter that is relevant to the economy or war. Most were not relevant to anything.

As I read more and more of the postings here on ABC News, the more I realize how stupid we Americans really are.

Barack Obama is a US Senator, when I hear him called a “Terrorist”, I want to scream.
Repubs refuse to accept that if the Clinton’s couldn’t make these charges stick that somehow they could?
THE CLINTONS!!!! Think about this for a minute, if Bill Clinton could have used dirt dug up on OBAMA he would have.There is no love loss between these two guys.
For months, I’ve listened at my work that the economy is Number One on people’s minds and the fear of $5.00 gas and now we falling into recession is all that matters to people. YACK all you want about abortion, gay marriage,gun rights, and scary bogeymen that hiding around the corner, but normal everyday people are worried about LOSING THEIR ONE AND ONLY HOME, LOSING THEIR JOBS (some have to work two and three jobs just to make ends meet), AND LOSING THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.
Sorry, John, but trying to scare the crud out people is not going to win this election. People are already scared of the future. Signed a Vet.
OBAMA / BIDEN

Wake up America! Barack Obama will say anything to win the election. He tells the people that 95% of the people will receive tax cuts. What he doen’t tell you is that he is going to recind the Bush tax cuts which is a TAX INCREASE FOR EVERYONE. Why would you raise the capital gains tax to 30%? Over taxing the people that create jobs and invest in the economy is just crazy in this economic environment. You can also keep your universal heathcare plan. This will hurt the 95% the most. The good doctors will go private and the 95% will be stuck with the intern doing there heart surgery. America wake up! We need to save our country from this socialist movement. Just imagine what this country would be like with the far left controlling the white house, senate, and congress. It is time to stand up and save your country, tell everyone you know to vote John McCain. God help us otherwise.

Mary
I know I’m not going to change your mind but you need to get the facts right. If a small business has one owner and that owner profits after payroll and non-tax refundable expenses $250,000 or more then and only then will their taxes be increased. By the way if you don’t want to pay federal income taxes you don’t have to. I bet you didn’t know that. Many people do pay a federal income tax either because of shear ignorance or out of a feeling of duty to their fellow Americans. I personally do pay income taxes even though I know I don’t have to I don’t make over 250,000 a year and I don’t care if my taxes are cut because I believe that if I can help others I should. And that is what taxes do they help others who aren’t as well off as I am. I know most people wouldn’t do this but this is OUR country if one of us fails we all fail. And even though I am not voting for him I believe Obama gets that. But I agree with Ron Paul’s platform so I will vote for him even if I have to write him in.

Instead of everyone discussing which candidate is best/wrong for our country, we need to be on our knees praying. The United States is in a mess right now, and the only thing that is going to change this situation is prayer.

Tapper : a good story from the campaign trail. It gives insight into the daily grind for the candidates.

Josh, hon, I should be more clear. When I speak of the 4 adults in my family, I refer to myself and my spouse and our two adult children, who technically do NOT live in our house any more. One of them, still an undergrad, does come home for the summers. The other can only make it home for short visits, but since he does not yet have another permanent home independent of ours as he finishes his PhD, I count him as a member of our household when writing on these boards (but he is self-supporting and I do not get to claim him as a dependent any more. *G*)
I did not make an issue of my intelligence– I was responding to the characterizations in this thread that intelligent people all support Obama and that McCain supporters are all ignorant, uneducated (not the same thing) people. I do not see what the nature of my particular educational background matters. And while I frequently take issue with statements made by others, often with a sarcastic or ironic tone, I do not belittle my fellow posters by denouncing their statements as “stupid.” I may consider others here ill-informed or willfully misleading or any number of other things, but I rarely think of them as stupid. And when I do, I do not say so on the boards. It would be nice if others displayed the same courtesy toward me.

Response to SD:
The law making children born to service members United States citizens in the Panama Canal Zone, where McCain was born, was passed in 1937. The law cannot be retroactive under the Constitution. McCain was born in 1936.

I’m getting worried about Senator McCain. When he first started running I considered voting for him, now it seems he is having a hard time stating facts. I know all politicians stretch the truth, but it seems lately that McCain’s campaign is trying to reinvent reality. First he says the “fundamentals of the economy are sound” then its that Senator Obama is “paling around with terrorists” and now they claim the Troopergate report says that Palin did not violate ethics law, when it clearly reports the opposite. I’ve been following politics since Nixon campaigned and I cannot remember a candidate for President who had such a low opinion of the public’s intelligence. He can forget my vote.

to MODERATE.yes! we have different views and candidates but you are one person i can respect despite our differences. i applaude you. no matter their views i dont appreciate calling other people dumb or stupid even when their info borders on that and uneducated. it only shows you got the real education. i would to suggest that people make comment base on research from books and not from bloggers.

blah blah blah …acorn… blah blah blah …ayers… blah blah blah …wright… blah blah blah…that’s what you impotent old geezers sound like. how does it feel to be irrelevant? move over. you’re done. take your chair with you.

To carolyn
Firt I never claimed to have a law degree I was just restating how it was explained to me on one of the other blog on this site.
Second I have looked it up and you are correct as to what the law is. thank you for carifying this for me.
Third I would not call Obama’s grandmother a liar. I would however say that like many people sometimes do his grandmother may have misremebered where she was or if this is his Kenyan gradmother she may have mistaken Barack’s birth with one of her other grandchildren, because as record show Barack was born in Hawaii which makes him a U.S. citizen.

I can not Believe what I have been reading..The people who are making these comments Are walking Among US??????These are Voters?????No to many Sound like they think very well.Must be Party line People..What country are they From????

That’s campaigning I can believe in!

To Fakebama: Obama is desperate and he is willing to do whatever it takes to win this election, even if it means being dishonest to gain votes through “voter fraud” which many of them have been dead for years and others are not legally registered to vote. Not only is Obama dishonest, but he pals around with terrorist; then he denies it.

I have put several posts on here about Obama hanging around with terrorists and someone keeps deleting my messages. Why is this? Can’t you stand the truth?
If someone puts a negative comment on here about McCain/Palin; you don’t delete those. It is very apparent that whoever is over this post is definitely pro Obama/Biden. Why would anyone vote for someone like Obama who is so anti-American. How in the world did he ever become senator is very questionable.

Sarah Palin and TODD up until a few years ago did more than hang around or pal around..with a well known ANTI American group. The Alaska Independence Party. LOOK IT UP! Research it. I DID!
The former leader, Joe Vogler, wanted
nothing to do with American, and wanted to denounce American and the United Nations in 1993. These are direct ties, and Recent ties. This crap with Obama and Ayers is thread thin, Obama was eight years old when Ayers did his Anti American thing. What are you crazy people talking about? Shake hands Obama, continue to focus on the issues. That is all you have to do. Some folks would rather drown than be helped so long as they are right in their own minds, (which is out of mind) if you ask me. You can’t get past the Bubba’s of the world, and if they hold their prejudices dearer and closer than what is sensible and righteous. So be it
OBAMA-08

Good for Obama for making the gesture of going door to door. Ultimately it’s nothing but a photo-op, but a good one nonetheless.
Some of you keep mentioning Obama’s supposed ties to William Ayers, so lets talk about that. But lets talk FACTS instead of innuendo. Ayers was indeed involved in some very bad acts when Obama was 8 years old. If he was not criminally convicted of those bad acts that was a failure of the US criminal justice system and has nothing to do with Barack Obama. Since those events in the early 1970s, William Ayers has become a university professor teaching Education and his work was funded by the Annenberg Foundation. The billionaire Annenbergs are major supporters and funders of the Republican party; in fact they have given money to support John McCain for this election. The board on which Ayers and Obama both served was supported by the Annenberg Foundation and other members of the board were both Democrats AND Republicans. I watched a very interesting interview with Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign staffer, and when the interviewer mentioned these facts, Bounds was practically yelping, “I’m not talking about the BOARD” because he was frankly terrified of offending the other board members and especially the Annenbergs, who as I have I mentioned are MAJOR Republican donors. Well then, Tucker, what ARE you talking about? The $200 Ayers once donated to an Obama political campaign? The SMALL gathering Ayers hosted when Obama first entered politics? Other than that, and political gatherings of that type are quite common, there is no connection between the two men. Out of ALL the board participants, including the Annenbergs who funded it, the McCain campaign wants to slime Obama only for “associating” with William Ayers.
I can’t help but think that trying to associate Obama with terrorism and saying “he’s not like us” is nothing but a straw man for other, darker, more insidious motives. Frankly, though it’s uglier to hear, I wish people would be more honest with why an Obama Presidency is so abhorrent to them rather than using the specious reason that he knew William Ayers when so many Republicans can say the same.

people.. open your eyes. McCain in 79, if something happen to him.. is Vee Pee ready ?.. there are many other talented women Mc can choose to be his running mate. why the Palin?. well.. good luck America !!!

If Obama believes that going door to door will work, then good for him. I have read a lot the comments here and to be honest people, most of you are missing the point. America is falling apart and people are making this a character based election. Sad! I voted already and I did not vote for McCain. I do not agree with him on the issues, and the reason is, I cannot see the difference between him and GWB. Nuclear power plants being built will help the short term economy, but it will be college educated workers to work in there, so in the end, it leaves out those who cannot afford college. McCain also has a LONG record of voting AGAINST alternative energy. He is a main supporter of oil, and frankly, that is not good enough for me. He has voted so many times AGAINST new funding for our vets, and I do not understand how he can relate to an average American who has one home and who is struggling to keep their home. McCain has over 5 homes. I believe that McCain was a decent guy, back in 2000, but the man that stands before me now, is not that same honorable person I once saw. His campaign is dispicable and his rallies are frightening. I do not fault others for suppoting McCain, but I hope they are supporting him on where he stands on the issues and not because he was a POW. The way McCain has run his campaign, to me, is the way he will run this country. Bush did the same thing. I also want this war over, McCain seems to want to stay there at the expense of the lives of our soliders. McCain a life long Pro-Life supporter is not showing me Pro-Life when it comes to our soliders. Every life is precious and needs to be protected not just the unborn. McCain voted FOR the war and since he did that I voted against him for this election. I do not need to hear about Ayers or Rezko, because if there was an issue our intelligence agencies would have found something wrong with Obama by now, so those points are irrelavant. People can bash Obama all they want, but he earned my vote. Also when Susan Eisenhower, and the wife of Chuck Hagel(Chuck Hagel a republican senator) support Obama, then that says a lot of to who they see Obama truly is and will be as President.

Sean Michael, I respect your view when you say this is not a time for on the job training. I have to disagree with you with two things. Every job in American has on the job training, and number two, if something were to happen to McCain where he could not finish his term, would you be comfortable with Palin running the show? She herself admitted that she has only been at this for some weeks. If she were to be President one day, it would be on the job training for her as well as McCain, because being in the Senate, is not being President. I have seen the Katie Couric interview and Charlie Gibson interview. Also, Obama has more foreign policy experience at his time than Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Carter.

Sean: I can’t believe you support McBush. He voted with Bush over 90% of the time! How can you and others like you forget about that??

Good for Obama for making the gesture of going door to door. Ultimately it’s nothing but a photo-op, but a good one nonetheless.
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A photo-op????
Funny, I live in Ohio and I have seen nothing in the papers about that, nor on our news.
So it may have been a photo-op for those that were there so they could get their own pics with him….But this is the only place I have read about all of this.
3 weeks ago he was 4 blocks from my house visiting a Health Club, we all found out about it 5 days later when it was posted in our small FREE paper. There were no crowds, he just wanted a chance to talk to small business people.
So, don’t tell me everything he does is a photo-op.
Obama/Biden ’08

“Jack: Why do you people refuse to address the issues???? DID YOU LIKE BUSH?????????????????????///”
Posted by: independent 4 Obama
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THAT folks, is what a liberal calls “addressing the issues”
Its as deep as they get.
Oblamer’s WHOLE campaign is all about “EIGHT YEARS!”
That’s all he has to say to get the little lemmings to cheer pretentiously.
geniuses.

Obama’s “tax plan” is a welfare plan. Forty percent of recipients don’t even pay taxes.
Obama = welfare queen

I did not take money from oil companies: – LIAR – [03/31/2008]
THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians. Corporations, however, do have political action committees that collect voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates. Obama doesn’t take money from PACs. He also doesn’t take money from lobbyists.
But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama’s presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the center’s totals.
Two of Obama’s fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co. Source: Associated press via Yahoo News

have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis – LIAR. [03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash – Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST – Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?

Oh by your standards steve everyone who is Islamic in the United States is a terrorist???
You have extremes in every religion, look what the Catholics did during the inquisition….
Are you saying everyone who studied the Quran is going to bomb you or are a terrorist?
If you believe that then you are walking a fine line of fear for everything.
Maybe you better read the Quran and you might learn something.
Obama/Biden ’08

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Josh,
Thank you for responding to my post and for your gracious apology.I’m sorry that I have not responded to more of your questions in the past and will try to do so in the future. If I have time today, I’ll try to scroll down and find some of your earlier queries and respond. I’m afraid I tend to hit the comment button in spurts and then not check back for a while and I miss things. I parachute in to Tapper and to Politico when I find the time, but between my teaching schedule this fall and my duties helping run our family business, I am swamped. Still, I love good political discussion, so I post when I can. I’ll try to do a better job of foll0wing up in the future.
Oh, and since I mentioned my career in academia, I have to add that it cracks me up when people speaking of Bill Ayers point out that “he’s now a respected education professor.” A step removed from leading the Weather Underground, to be sure, but…. the most radical people I know are all professors of education. The actions are very different but the views are still very much out of the mainstream, which is a scary thought given that these professors are helping shape our future generations of teachers.
(no, josh, this is not directed at you. I don’t recall if you have posted about Ayers at all.)

Steve: I have to correct you on a few points:
1. Obama had to study various religions in Jakarta. One such lesson week was Islam. He has been going to Christian churches for many years.
2. Obama has stated repeatidly that peace-keeping troops will stay in Iraq, but the millitary presence will be withdrawn. We keep peace troops all over the world. So your statement is bull
3. Explain to me your socialist comment. How is helping our citizens socialist. Is money sent to other countries OK, but helping 50 million unisured Americans isn’t???

The New Deal was wrong during the first Depression. Now, all some Americans want is a handout. Obama promises this handout and this program. How is he going to pay for it, we are so far in debt it will take years to get out of.
Gov needs to get out of this mess, let the market bottom out and recover on its own.
Nationalizing our banking system is the first step to socialism. What is next Transportation, Judicial.

Steve- One more time, can you make the case for McCain WITHOUT bashing Obama? ACORN helped Obama in the primaries, but has not helped him once he was the nominee, so ACORN is irrelavant in the general election. Also, if Obama was a terrorist, what does that say about the FBI or CIA? Serving on a board does not constitute being friends. Do you work with people and are you friends with every person you work with? If you want to start guilt by association, then lets look at that. Charles Keating is a CONVICTED felon. He was friends with McCain, so does that make McCain bad or a convict too? Sarah Palin’s husband was a member of AIP. AIP wants Alaska to sucede, from the Union and become their own country. What does that say about Sarah Palin?

McCain has government run health care. Why not use a private health care if there is something wrong with government run healthcare?

Steve said: Nationalizing our banking system is the first step to socialism.
Well, you think McCain is better…but he wants the govt. to BUY up homes and sell them off as lower prices to irresponsible buyers, at a price tag of $300 billion.

steve: Please stop cut and pasting garbage from blogs.
“Obama said “QUOTE” Once a Terrorist always a Terrorist.”"
No he didn’t.
“Obama lied about ACORN and his association with them.”
No he didn’t.
“Also ACORN is at the heart of the financial meltdown, they sued so they could get people into loans they could not afford. ”
No they didn’t.
“Obama was the lead attorney for ACORN.”
No he wasn’t. He represented them in one case, as a member of a team of attorneys, alongside the US Department of Justice in a case to make the State of Illinois comply with federal law. Do you have a problem with states being asked to comply with federal law?
“His birth certificate has been proven as a fake”
No it hasn’t. It’s been proven to NOT be a fake.
If you think I’m wrong, feel free to back up your position with actual evidence from a reputable source (i.e. not some blog).

When it comes to health care, I believe it is a right, because I believe that every person’s life is precious. If that makes me a socialist, I do not think so. I have healthcare, but people, children especially, should not have to die because they do not have healthcare. Look at all the countries that have universal health care, and some of those countries are not socialist countries, so the whole socialist thing is ridiculous.

Steve- I can also give you websites about McCain that are negative as well, but what does that prove? McCain lied about the Confederate flag, and his reason was for AMBITION. He cheated on his first wife, which is adultery to me, again lying. He gave up key positions to where other soliders were Vietnam while he was a POW. I used to like McCain in 2000, but not anymore. He has turned out to be the same person he said he would never become when he ran against GWB and for me, there is no honor in that.

Okay Mccain lied on issues, we know all politicians lie and stetch the truth.
But lying about voter fraud and knowing terrorist is to far out the window.

Steve: Don’t want to overload you with facts, but here is the voting record of McSame:
He’s against regulating the financial markets that are now failing but if he thinks you will vote for him he will tell you he is for it. He thinks the economy is fundamentally strong but when asked what economy is he talking about? He changed his statement to say he was talking about the American people are fundamentally strong. The American people he consistently votes against on issues such as healthcare, seniors, labor, unions, keeping jobs from going overseas, energy, childcare, active military troops, veterans and even hurricane survivors? Will the real John McCain please stand up?McCain voted NO on S AMDT 210 to S Con Res 18: To repeal the tax subsidy for certain domestic companies which move manufacturing operations and American jobs offshore.Republican McCain may lie but his record does not! Here is how Republican McCain voted for the American people:06/26/2007 Union Organization BillHR 800 Voted:NO08/02/2007 State Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) Reauthorization HR 976 Voted:NO09/19/2007 Time Between Troop Deployments S Amdt 2909 Voted:NO10/05/2005 Health Care for Veterans AmendmentHR 2863 Voted:NO02/02/2006 Medicare Part D AmendmentHR 4297 Voted:NO11/17/2005 Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit AmendmentS 2020 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Medicare Premiums AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Prescription Drug Plan AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO07/11/2006 FEMA AmendmentHR 5441 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Medical Assistance and Prescription Drug AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Hurricane Health Care for Survivors AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO10/27/2005 AIDS Drug Assistance Program AmendmentHR 3010 Voted:NO06/27/2003 Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit billS 1 Voted:NO07/25/2006 Teen Pregnancy Education AmendmentS 403 Voted:NO10/26/2005 Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program AmendmentHR 3010 Voted:NO06/16/2005 Reduction in Dependence on Foreign OilHR 6 Voted:NO06/16/2005 Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) AmendmentHR 6 Voted:NO05/08/2002 Farm Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002HR 2646 Voted:NO03/29/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007HR 1591 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Agriculture, Rural Development, FDA Appropriations ActHR 2744 Voted:NO10/27/2005 After School Funding AmendmentHR 3010 Voted:NO11/08/2001 Veterans Affairs and HUD Appropriations Act of 2002HR 2620 Voted:NO11/17/2005 Additional Funding For Veterans AmendmentS 2020 Voted:NO06/29/2000 Health Care AmendmentHR 4577 Voted:NO11/15/2005 Reporting Matters in Iraq AmendmentS 1042 Voted:NO11/15/2005 Iraq Progress Reports AmendmentS 1042 Voted:NO04/25/2002 Securing America’s Future Energy (SAFE) Act of 2001HR 4 Voted:NO

for the Obama supporters.
I do not like either candidate for our President.
I feel all politicians are HACKS and LIARS.
I also strongly feel after many hours of research on the web out of the two Obama anad McCain, that Obama is the worst of the two.
CXan we re shuffle the deck and start over???????????

GOOD JOB, INDEPENDANT FOR OBAMA. I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH YOUR FACTS, THAT I WANTED TO REPEAT THEM:
Voting record of McSame:
He’s against regulating the financial markets that are now failing but if he thinks you will vote for him he will tell you he is for it. He thinks the economy is fundamentally strong but when asked what economy is he talking about? He changed his statement to say he was talking about the American people are fundamentally strong. The American people he consistently votes against on issues such as healthcare, seniors, labor, unions, keeping jobs from going overseas, energy, childcare, active military troops, veterans and even hurricane survivors? Will the real John McCain please stand up?McCain voted NO on S AMDT 210 to S Con Res 18: To repeal the tax subsidy for certain domestic companies which move manufacturing operations and American jobs offshore.Republican McCain may lie but his record does not! Here is how Republican McCain voted for the American people:06/26/2007 Union Organization BillHR 800 Voted:NO08/02/2007 State Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) Reauthorization HR 976 Voted:NO09/19/2007 Time Between Troop Deployments S Amdt 2909 Voted:NO10/05/2005 Health Care for Veterans AmendmentHR 2863 Voted:NO02/02/2006 Medicare Part D AmendmentHR 4297 Voted:NO11/17/2005 Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit AmendmentS 2020 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Medicare Premiums AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Prescription Drug Plan AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO07/11/2006 FEMA AmendmentHR 5441 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Medical Assistance and Prescription Drug AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Hurricane Health Care for Survivors AmendmentS 1932 Voted:NO10/27/2005 AIDS Drug Assistance Program AmendmentHR 3010 Voted:NO06/27/2003 Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit billS 1 Voted:NO07/25/2006 Teen Pregnancy Education AmendmentS 403 Voted:NO10/26/2005 Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program AmendmentHR 3010 Voted:NO06/16/2005 Reduction in Dependence on Foreign OilHR 6 Voted:NO06/16/2005 Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) AmendmentHR 6 Voted:NO05/08/2002 Farm Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002HR 2646 Voted:NO03/29/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007HR 1591 Voted:NO11/03/2005 Agriculture, Rural Development, FDA Appropriations ActHR 2744 Voted:NO10/27/2005 After School Funding AmendmentHR 3010 Voted:NO11/08/2001 Veterans Affairs and HUD Appropriations Act of 2002HR 2620 Voted:NO11/17/2005 Additional Funding For Veterans AmendmentS 2020 Voted:NO06/29/2000 Health Care AmendmentHR 4577 Voted:NO11/15/2005 Reporting Matters in Iraq AmendmentS 1042 Voted:NO11/15/2005 Iraq Progress Reports AmendmentS 1042 Voted:NO04/25/2002 Securing America’s Future Energy (SAFE) Act of 2001HR 4 Voted:NO

Look, they dont’ want you to talk about his associations and now it seems that his campaign is downplaying the fact that THEY HIRED ACORN and paid them $862,000 to go out and get votes for Obama.
There’s more to this man than he is letting us know about. I just find it funny if someone points out his associations with a known domestic terrorist who is unrepentent and continued to serve on boards with him, and you point out Reverand Jermiah Wright, that YOU ARE A RACIST. PLEASE, THAT’S ALL THEY KNOW TO SAY.
THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH. ESPECIALLY WHAT IS SCARY ABOUT HIS ASSOCIATIONS WITH ODINGA IN KENYA.
Are you also aware that he is pushing for along with the House who just passed this and it’s going in front of the Senate to take away the right of union members to have a private vote. They want to make it an open vote so there can be repercussions if you don’ vote the way the union bosses tell you.

steve: I saw your links before they were removed. They’re not proof that Obama lied about ACORN.
The entire argument there is based on a statement on his website: “Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.”
which has since been changed to “Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.”.
The original statement could be taken to be wrong, since it could be argued that by representing them in a single case when he was an attorney, he was working for them, whereas the rephrased statement is consistent with that work.
But it’s a stretch to say the original statement was lying, since lying implies intent and the page always made clear that Obama had represented ACORN in that case.
If you’re lying, you don’t tend to put the information you’re supposedly trying to hide right after the lie!
On top of that, unless you think Obama personally writes and checks every single word his campaign puts out, it would be an even bigger stretch to say that Obama himself was lying.
So it’s simply untrue to say, based on this, that ‘Obama lied’. ‘Obama campaign website had poorly phrased statement’ possibly. I don’t think that’s a big issue though.

Okay people Project Vote is part of Acorn they hired him to run Project
Vote.
HE LIED
Obama started building the base years before. For instance, ACORN noticed him when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the Developing Communities Project. He was a very good organizer. When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois’ refusal to abide by the National Voting Rights Act, also known as motor voter. Allied only with the state of Mississippi, Illinois had been refusing to allow mass-based voter registration according to the new law. Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5000 of them).

Hell just google ACORN and Voter fraud.
To many links to list

Steve while you have tried to claim that Obama was not born in the US, it has been checked out and he does have a birth certificate from Hawaii with a raised seal, so your claims are bogus. Also this happened in August and I am sure that it does not take more than two months to determine whether or not it is fake or not. Again, your are reading sites that are not reputable, and if he was not born in America, it would already be in the news. Nice try, but he is a natural born citizen.

steve: One, anyone can file a lawsuit against anyone for anything. I could sue you for stealing my dog. That wouldn’t prove you stole my dog.
Two: ACORN, this year alone, have registered over 1.3 MILLION voters. It’s inevitable in any operation of that scale that some of the workers involved will be lazy and dishonest and will make up names rather than do their job. What’s more, by the law in most states, ACORN are required to hand over those voter registration cards, even if they’re blatantly false.
A few instances such as the ones you outline are inevitable. They are not proof that ACORN is a evil vote fraud operation as a whole.
What’s more relevant: how many instances can you find of false voter registration, as in the cases you’ve outlined, resulting in false votes?

ACORN IS HITTING KEY STATES AND DEFRAUDING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
Obama trained these people on how to do this when he worked for project vote.

ACORN and other groups had submitted 252,595 voter registrations in Philadelphia. There were 57,435 registrations rejected — most of them submitted by ACORN.
This voter fraud equals one fith of the amount they turn in for one area of the state of Philadelphia. Dont tell me that 57k and up false registrations is mild and from a few WORKERS.

VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD IS STILL A FELONY

steve: Indeed it is. But why would any organization want to do it?
False registrations do not equal false votes.
All you’re showing is that false registrations are, in fact, caught. Why would any party want to encourage false registrations? It’s pointless. They care about votes, not registrations.
Of course, preventing registrations does prevent votes – if you’re not registered, you can’t vote. So if you’re really looking for shenanigans, look at the people trying to prevent or remove registrations.

Belle
show me the article or news report that says what you claim.

The Obama campaign on Friday announced it was amending its FEC filings to indicate it hired CSI for “get out the vote” projects instead of stage, lighting and sound.
FEC spokeswoman Mary Brandenberger told the Tribune-Review it is not unusual for campaigns to amend FEC reports, even in the case of large sums of money.
The RNC immediately pounced, accusing Obama of hiding a deeper relationship with ACORN:

back to work

Welfare to 40% of the people that don’t pay taxes.
Obama and those with their hands out may hate our Gov’t but they sure love Gov’t money.
It’s not tax cuts–it’s welfare.

Want facts?
Fact: Obama sat in church for 20 years and listened to an American hating, racist preacher without flinching….until he decided to run for President.
Fact: Obama launched his political career in the living room of an UNREPENTANT TERRORIST, William Ayers, who as recently as the late 90′s said he wished they had done more than bomb the Pentagon and other US targets. Obama still will not reveal the true depth of the relationship though it is documented.
Fact: Obama voted to cut funding for the troops in Iraq.
Fact: Obama had shady dealings with Rezko.
Fact: Obama tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence. According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
Fact: Joe Biden said during his run for the Democrat party nomination: Barack Obama is not fit to be President.
Fact: Hillary Clinton said that Obama is not ready to pick up the “red phone” and serve as Commander-in-Chief.

To Ryan:
In any case, I dont hear any responses to the other 5 facts. Could be you dont have any responses?
That’s right, McCain did vote against any resolution that had a timeline to bring the troops home. This would only encourage the terrorists to wait for the that timeline to pass before resuming their war against freedom.
Of course, your boy Obama still will not admit the surge worked, sooo……
As for the Zebari thing, seems he cant make up his mind. First he says one thing then mysteriously, when Obama takes a “lead” in the liberal media’s “polls” changes his mind. Hmm…why would he do that?
Could it be that you think it is ok to give Obama a pass on anything that is damaging? Says a lot about the left and their blinders when it comes to anything negative about their beloved Obama.
John McCain is a proven American patriot. John McCain wants smaller government and lower taxes. John McCain wants Americans to be responsible for themselves and not have the government dictating every move.
Obama WILL raise your taxes. Obama WILL socialize anything and everything he can.
Time for a gut check. A junior senator who can talk, but is completely unproven or a man who has proven experience and that has consistently reached across the isle to work in a bi-partisan fashion his entire career.
Obama is for change alright. And that is all you will have in your pockets during an Obama term, change.

“Spread the wealth.” Hrm.. doesn’t that sound like at least one other country? Take from those that have and give to those that don’t have. Send the message that the government needs to help people, that there is no personal accounting for anything, that you poor things aren’t able to take care of yourselves, and we know what is best so sit back and let us take care of you the way we know we should. If I were one of “those people,” I’d be totally P.O.’d at the arrogant assumption that I’d need help, first of all. I can hardly believe what I am reading these days that passes as compassion. God help us all.

Obama wants to raise taxes on anyone or business who makes over 250.000.
Spread the wealth 8(
Is that Net, Gross, Net worth. He will not say, as he does not even know what he is talking about.
ObamA says it will not affect to many in Small Business. That is BS
Look at the definition of a small business on the SBA web site.
It ranges from a few thousand to several millions in dollars based on the type of business.
HIs plan is going to raise cost for the many hard working small business owners in this country.
They will then have to raise cost of their service or product.
Who pays for that
WE DO

Obama said today in a speech he will remove the capitol gains tax on small business growth earnings.
Their is no such thing.
Again he does not know what he is talking about, and is mnaking empty promises to the masses who want the handouts.

(5) One favor political Chicago claims Obama did for the Giannoulias family was in 2006 when, out of the blue, 29 year old Alexi Giannoulias, with no experience, and without ever having voted before, decides to run for State Treasurer of Illinois. Also out of the blue, Barack Obama endorses Alexi Giannoulias for State Treasurer. This was a SHOCK to everyone in Chicago — and Giannoulias would have never become State Treasurer without Obama’s help. In political circles here, it has always been believed that this endorsement was bought years ago with that sweetheart mortgage deal Broadway Bank arranged for Obama to buy his town house.

Way to go Jake Tapper. Leave out the important quotes like “spread the wealth around.” It’s time to stop the liberal agenda and tell the story like it is.

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Wow…Obama actually told the plumber that his plan was to “spread the wealth around”…funny how that comment was left out of this article.

Obama’s no “Robin Hood”, he’s just a plain hood. A Chicago mobster, that’s all.
Income redistribution, mandatory socialist education, state mandated “corps”, thought police… Sheesh – this guy would make Stalin proud.
Look out America… you’re becoming Amerikgba.

People needs to stop whining about paying more taxes. I’m single, no house, no kids, no deductions and make six figures. I probably pay a higher tax rate than most people. Paying taxes is your duty–it buys civilization. You guys just want to cut taxes, put it on the tab, and have your children and grandchildren pay for it. There’s the American Dream for ya.

You seem to have left out one tiny detail in this story. Obama wants to “spread the wealth around”.

Huey Long, Bob LaFollett, Karl Marx Fredrick Engels all thought “spread the wealth around,” was a great idea. Joe Stalin murdered over 30,00,000 people to show how well “spread the wealth around,” works. Then came World War II.
I believe in Freedom, socialism breeds totalitarianism.
Vote McCain – Palin

“People needs to stop whining about paying more taxes. I’m single, no house, no kids, no deductions and make six figures. I probably pay a higher tax rate than most people. Paying taxes is your duty–it buys civilization. You guys just want to cut taxes, put it on the tab, and have your children and grandchildren pay for it. There’s the American Dream for ya.”
No responsibilities and nobody to look out for except yourself. You just keep you head firmly planted in your rear and your mouth shut.
Thanks

“When he says that 95% of Americans will get tax cuts..33% of Americans don’t even pay taxes. Is this the kind of leader that you want?”
Dude.. He’s been taking math lessons from Al Gore!!!!!

Obama is NOT for change.
He’s for the big bucks.

oh wow, my comment was removed with the video of the ‘spread the ealth’ comment. Why doesnt that surprise me?

I don’t believe how the Repubs hear what they want to hear. Obama said his plan will give tax breaks to 95% of ~~~taxpayers~~~!!! That means that 95% of those people that pay taxes get the credit.

To get my husband through college he worked 20 to 30 hours a week, I worked a lot of overtime and, at one point, two jobs, and we did without many things that folks take for granted. Now he works 50+ hours a week and frequently brings work home. To “spread the wealth” Obama proposes to take some of what we pay in taxes and out right give it in the form of a refundable tax credit to people who may not work as hard or make the sacrifices we have made. That is redistribution of wealth, otherwise known as socialism.

Come on GMA! You guys completely left out Obama’s comments on “spreading the wealth around” when he was talking to that plumber in Toledo. When I saw the story playing I thought, “finally some coverage from the networks on how Obama really thinks!” You glossed right over it! You actually played it to make it sound positive for Obama!! I couldn’t believemy ears!!

Most of you people wouldn’t understand the true notion of Marxist socialism if it slapped you in the face. You’ve heard conservative leaders banter it around and adopt the term as if it’s a concrete explanation of Democratic policies.
Thank God I’m an Independent, because anyone that understands true socialism will quickly realize that a complete breakdown of social classes as true socialism would require, won’t can can’t co-exist in a capitalistic/free market society. Most of you won’t pay additional taxes, considering 95 percent of us don’t make more than $250,000 per year.

“hilarious. so many people who are worried about obama “spreading the wealth.” yet, when tax dollars are proposed to be used by Republicans to transfer wealth from the middle-class to the rich, no problem. when tax dollars are used to bail out banks, no problem. when tax breaks are given to companies for shipping jobs overseas, no problem. keep screaming “socialism,” guys. if that’s your message, Obama’s going to get 400 electoral votes.”
So true, so true. Economics and Americans just don’t mix.

I like how if you make under $250,000 a year, you’re a hardworking American citizen. If you make over $250,000 a year you’re greedy, don’t work hard, and don’t deserve what you make… and your wealth should be “spread around” (the quote was conveniently left out of this article…)

Why did you omit the single most critical sentence to Obama’s chat with the Ohio plumber?
“I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody”
Tremeous insight into his true economic beliefs in an unscripted moment!!
You choked on it!
At least you did have part of the encounter on your site, NBC, CBS & CNN have absoultely NO mention of it on their sites at all.

No one is implying that you’re not a hardworking citizen if you make more than $250,000. But a tax policy that only affects 5 percent of the population is just as nonsensical as your notion of socialistic tax policy.

I think some of us are actually capable of knowing what true socialism is, but thanks for the lesson. The point is that we may be inching towards socialist economic policy. There are people on the left who believe that’s exactly what we need to do- but thank goodness for independents to keep it all in perspective

I make less than $250K per Year, a lot less, but my taxs will increase under B.O.. You see most of us middle class got a cut under the Bush tax cuts. B.O. will let those expire, our taxes will be raised to pre-Bush levels. Now along comes B.O. and he gets his tax cuts passed and while it will cut my taxes I will still be paying more than I was under the Bush tax cut. Now B.O can say he didn’t eraise my taxes but gave me a cut. How sly.

Cedric,
That Obama tax credit (not tax CUT) for hiring more employees is $3000 per employee ABOVE the number already employed.
Obviously, you know nothing about the cost of business: It costs much more than $3000 to employ someone in the US.
Given that $3000 is not enough to even pay minimum wage most businesses will forgo the credit because it will not be worth it. And if Obama gets his way and businesses are required to offer all kinds of benefits that will cost business even more and provide a great disincentive to grow or even stay in business at all.
That will not create jobs for anyone.
Obama does not understand this. Or he does and just doesn’t care. He wants everyone dependent on government. I and many other American who understand what this country really stands for (not handouts) want the government to get out of the way.
Gotta say, I am so IMPRESSED that so many of my fellow citizens caught the exchange between the plumber and Obama and are outraged about it. Gives me a lot of hope for America (and not the kind Obama wants to impose)

Food for thought:
If the “poor” (40 something percent) end up with no tax liability and assuming for a moment that the “rich” don’t pay taxes, who DOES PAY the taxes?
The middle class.

Dear Liberati, how little you know of the “real” John McCain. A man who left his disabled wife and family for the beautiful Cindy aka his mistress after she waited over 5 years for him. A man who ignored the warnings that an enemy mig was coming for his plane and continued his bombing run, not for us, but to try and be a hero. Tell me, wouldn’t have been more prudent to dodge the mig and come back and blow up that vietnamese plant? A man who graduated at the bottom of his military class and was allowed to fly planes, because of who is father was. By the way, when you graduate that low, you don’t get to fly planes. Lastly, a man who almost drowned in one of those planes because he didn’t pay attention in class and couldn’t release his own belts and hatches. Stop allowing McCain to run on his war record. Look at the real John McCain, a man who has done everything to serve himself and definitely not this country. A man who bullies those that would disagree with him, and disgrace his own running mate by picking her because she’s a woman, when he knew she was not qualified to be VP. Country First, I think not. More like McCain First, Country Second, and Women and Children Last. He is not POTUS material. George Bush is probably the worst President we have ever had, but a least, he stood by his convictions. John McCain, has no convictions because he left them all at the door when he caved to the right wing party and put an unqualified female on his ballot.

Jake Tapper. How far in the tank for Obama are you? Your article did not even come close to telling the American public what Obama said to the plumber about his (Obama) “wealth distribution” plan. You project his adoring house keeper interview but gloss over the fact Obama stated on NATIONAL TV that he is going to take money from those who make it and give it to those who dont work. A tax credit is actually “Welfare”.

I would simply like to echo what most objective readers have written! My dad is a plumber and when I heard this comment I was aghast. I figured that it would be all over the internet and the news but fox is the only one who mentions the only newsworthy comment–”spreading the wealth around” to a plumber. I was on the fence, but now have realized that Senator Obama does not understand what this country was founded on—HARD WORK! Go McCain/Palin!

I really have no problem with paying taxes to help get the country out of debt. I have a HUGE problem with the taxes I pay being used to give tax “refunds” to people who DO NOT pay taxes. That is a slide toward socialism, plain and simple. I did not like it when the Dems insisted on giving tax “rebates” to non-taxpayers as part of the economic stimulus plan, and I like it even less as part of Obama’s platform. Why should my money be taken from me and given to folks who did not earn it?