By Nitya

Oct 30, 2008 7:28am

Kissimmee, Kate! — Bill Clinton Heralds Obama’s ‘Do’ List; How Obama Called the Clintons to ‘Understand’ the Financial Crisis

KISSIMMEE, FLORIDA — “Look at this crowd -– it’s not only big, it is highly diverse," former President Bill Clinton told a crowd of 35,000 outside Orlando last night. "You even have a few white haired guys like me -– you haven’t cut my demographic out!"

It was the first joint campaign appearance between Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and the former president ever since the former felled the latter’s wife in the primaries. It was just August when the 42nd president hemmed and hawed when ABC News’ Kate Snow asked him if Obama is qualified to be president.

That is no longer operative, apparently.

Clinton took on the GOP’s economic arguments — "They talk about redistributing the wealth? They just presided over the biggest redistribution of wealth upward since the 1920s and we all know how that ended!" — and he heralded what Obama stands for.

"Let me tell you, folks, and this is again something I can say because I’m not running for anything — the historical record shows that virtually every person ever elected president does his best to actually do what they say they’re gonna do in the campaign, and Barack Obama’s ‘Do’ list is the better ‘Do’ list."

Clinton’s explanations of why Obama is qualified were interesting, to say the least.

"You know what he did?" Clinton said, heralding Obama’s reaction to the financial crisis. "First, he took a little heat for not saying much. I knew what he was doing. He talked to his advisers -– he talked to my economic advisers, he called Hillary. He called me. He called Warren Buffet. He called all those people — you know why? Because he knew it was complicated and before he said anything, he wanted to understand."

Got that?

"If we have not learned anything, we have learned that we need a president that wants to understand and who can understand," Clinton said.

Thank heaven the Clintons were there to help Obama understand!

"The second thing — and this meant more to me than anything else, and I haven’t cleared this with him and he may even be mad at me for saying this, so close to the election — but I know what else he said to his economic advisers — he said, ‘Tell me what the right thing to do is. What’s the right thing for America? Don’t tell me what’s popular, you tell me what’s right, I’ll figure it out and sell it.’

"That’s what a president does in a crisis," Clinton said, "what is right for America."

– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

Bill Clinton did what he had to do, but his support for Obama is not believable. He’ll always remember that Obama played the race card against him.
Obama has hidden his background, and his only relevant experience is in stuffing ballot boxes (ACORN). don’t fall for his tacky sales job. America deserves better!

Posted by: tina | October 30, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am

So, young man, what is bad about that? Obama has done the right thing by seeking for advise before tackling the problem. By doing just that, he has demonstrated that he is wise and smart.
Reminds me of what the Bible says,”In the multitude of counsel there is safety”, the book of Proverbs says.
So Kissimmee, find something else to say. This does not wash with me, and I am sure it will not, with any right-thinking person
Sammy

Posted by: Sammy | October 30, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am

If Clinton has any grudge against Obama it definitely didn’t show in his appearance or expressions.
His forceful approval of Obama’s policies rang true and swept away any skepticism of a united democratic front in the last critical days before the election.
John McCain has Sarah the Palin and Joe the Plumber, but Barack Obama now has Bill the most popular and successful President in recent history.

Posted by: seemstome | October 30, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am

Go Bill!!!

Posted by: Tommy | October 30, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am

Okay last night the Obots almost had me thinking I heard things in O’s infomercial I didn’t really hear. So I get up this morning search the news sites, no mention of the fact that he lowered the tax cut/rich rate to 200k for families (which used to be 250k). So I had to go in search on the net and find the info and even listened to the tape again. YUP sure enough, we have more rich people in America today.
So that would make it 200k for families 150k for individuals and dropping.
And yet the media says NOTHING!!!
The tax man cometh!

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 30, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

What is wrong with asking for advice and opinions before you act? If anything that is what I would look for in a president! I think one of the most disgusting aspects of the Bush camp is their obvious inability to doubt themselves…to consider the possibility that they are wrong. I like that Obama calls a group of people together to make big decisions. What is Palin doing? Asking her church? Is she PRAYING for public policy ideas?? She’s awful, you know it. Further, McCain has presented ZERO good ideas. They are so out of it – they don’t even know what they don’t know.

Posted by: Mary | October 30, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

it is time for the he will raise your taxes crap to end this bs is getting very old—-the old geser wants to protect people like himself and exxon—WHO IS BSING WHO—–give it up already-
100 thousand to 1 against that–you know the ones making over 200 thousand a year and that is net.been in business and never netted over 200 thousand —just repub bs.

Posted by: rodney | October 30, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Oh stop it jake he said more than that. I know you dislike the clintons but stop trying to analyze everything he says. When the big bank failed all of the obama supporters were applauding him for not have a knee jerk reaction and getting some advice from advisors. Clinton just confirmed thats what he did whatsdid. What will it take for people to stop questioning the Clintons should they kneel before him while he holds out his hand and kiss it?

Posted by: rachel | October 30, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

crash and burn mccain is done and the painin can go back to the woods she came from –thankfully–the screeching banshee is disgusting and very hard on the ears.

Posted by: rodney | October 30, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

Divisiveness in the party or the country is not wise at this time.
McCain has gone down this road all through his campaign and would continue right through his presidency.
America’s problems need a fast track in government. Obama will have that with a democratic congress. His calm, measured consideration before decisions will be complimented by his unabashed honesty in seeking opinions of people regardless of their affiliations.
Contrast this with the brashness of John McCain who impulsively leaps about on issues in order to convey the appearance of action and decisiveness.
As Clinton says, Obama will make the right decisions.
Will you?

Posted by: seemstome | October 30, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

Its hard to find a more revered and loved American than Andy Griffith. When I think of a true American I think of him. Andy Griffith stands for truth and wisdom, and has been considered a faithful veteran, and someone who would never support communism. Andy grew up when the world was under attack by nationalism, and then he was a part of our national fight against communism. Often during his show, The Andy Griffith Show he would teach us lessons on right and wrong, and what the true American way is. His son in the show, famed director Ron Howard is also considered an American icon, and someone you can trust to do the right thing for America. Ron and Andy have put their support behind Barack Obama for President, because they believe he represents the BEST for America. They would NEVER support someone who didnt love this country as much as they do, nor would they support someone who was a threat to us all. Lets all be like Andy Griffith and vote for Barack Obama! Lets make America the America that Andy Griffith believes in! Obama/Biden, as American as apple pie!

Posted by: Fairfax | October 30, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

samhiguchi, you need to get your facts straight. He has ALWAYS said that anyone making 250k or less will NOT see a tax hike; in other words, 200k to 250k = no new taxes; 250 k = higher taxes.
And if you make >250k or more and feel dissed, realize that EVERYONE is being taxed and all taxes are redistributed.

Posted by: liberal faith | October 30, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

mccain has run a campaign based on lies overstated facts and a freak show that would make pt barnum proud—but show time is over and it is time to close the curtain on his sick campaign.

Posted by: rodney | October 30, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am

Before Taking us to war George W. Bush should have gotten some advise from his daddy, and Brent. Scro. and some of that crew, that is what the party elder statesmen are for. but what did george do.
Told this in essence to get lost.
Mcccain should have gotten some advice from some of the party elderers when it came to making his decision about his vp pick.
There is a difference in having advisors, and listening to them and then making your own decision.
than
having handlers who tell you you should do this-or that
obama consults with advisors and then makes up his own mind.
mccain consults with handlers-all on the payroll. and lets them be his guide.
I just listen to the john mccain interview with tom. brokaw, on meet the press. said he had five general backing him. and then proceeded to name them and forgot 1 or 2 of their names.
Lets face it. this election has taken its toll on john mccain.
I am sorry he had to suffer what he suffered during vietnam war, but we need to thank him once again for his service, and allow him his rest.
he will not make it through four years as president, at this junction in american times.

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | October 30, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

cheer up
if mccain would have listened to his father we would not be in iraq—daddy sure knew better .and understood what would happen

Posted by: rodney | October 30, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am

Bill seems to have double edged “compliments” for BHO . . . Ageism and the inabililty to make a tough decision are two concerns often talked about re: BHO.
The reference to “haven’t cut out my demographic” (is there a “yet” at the end of that??) and how BHO “waited” and called the Clintons for advice. . . . classic.
BHO must have a knot in his stomach when Bill is speaking!

Posted by: Echo21 | October 30, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am

i have to correct last post i ment bush–get them mixed up bush mcbush very similiar

Posted by: rodney | October 30, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

While the Clintons and Obama unite, John McCain’s campaign is looking for a scapegoat. It is looking for someone to blame if McCain loses on Tuesday.
And it has decided on Sarah Palin.
In recent days, a McCain “adviser” told Dana Bash of CNN: “She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone.”
Imagine not taking advice from the geniuses at the McCain campaign. What could Palin be thinking?
Also, a “top McCain adviser” told Mike Allen of Politico that Palin is “a whack job.”
Maybe she is. But who chose to put this “whack job” on the ticket? Wasn’t it John McCain? And wasn’t it his first presidential-level decision?
And if you are a 72-year-old presidential candidate, wouldn’t you expect that your running mate’s fitness for high office would come under a little extra scrutiny? And, therefore, wouldn’t you make your selection with care? (To say nothing about caring about the future of the nation?)
McCain didn’t seem to care that much. McCain admitted recently on national TV that he “didn’t know her well at all” before he chose Palin.
But why not? Why didn’t he get to know her better before he made his choice?
It’s not like he was rushed. McCain wrapped up the Republican nomination in early March. He didn’t announce his choice for a running mate until late August.
Wasn’t that enough time for McCain to get to know Palin? Wasn’t that enough time for his crackerjack “vetters” to investigate Palin’s strengths and weaknesses, check through records and published accounts, talk to a few people, and learn that she was not only a diva but a whack job diva?
But McCain picked her anyway. He wanted to close the “enthusiasm gap” between himself and Barack Obama. He wanted to inject a little adrenaline into the Republican National Convention. He wanted to goose up the Republican base.
And so he chose Palin. Is she really a diva and a whack job? Could be. There are quite a few in politics. (And a few in journalism, too, though in journalism they are called “columnists.”)
As proof that she is, McCain aides now say Palin is “going rogue” and straying from their script. Wow. What a condemnation. McCain sticks to the script. How well is he doing?
In truth, Palin’s real problem is not her personality or whether she takes orders well. Her real problem is that neither she nor McCain can make a credible case that Palin is ready to assume the presidency should she need to.
And that undercuts McCain’s entire campaign.

Posted by: rsimon | October 30, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

Why are we not hearing more about this? I’ve been trying to find out about these and there is nothing !!! Talk about a con.
 
Lx  
Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir
Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um . . know you are busy and important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and . . . ah . . I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?
See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.
 I can’t seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be ‘locked’ or ‘not available’. I’m sure it’s just some oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are . . . I . . I . . . have them written down here somewhere . . . oh wait. Sorry about the smears. It was raining out.
I’ll just read it to you.
Could you help me please find these things, sir?
1. Occidental College records — Not released 2. Columbia College records — Not released 3. Columbia Thesis paper — not available, locked down by faculty 4. Harvard College records — Not released, locked down by faculty 5. Selective Service Registration — Not released 6. Medical records — Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule — ‘not available’
8. Law practice client list — Not released 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – - Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth — Not released 11. Harvard Law Review articles published — None 12. University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
13.  Your Record of baptism– Not released or ‘not available’
14. Your Illinois State Senate records–’not available’
You couldn’t get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after
143 days of experience. 
You couldn’t become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon. 
You couldn’t get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience. 
You couldn’t join the military and become a colonel after 143 days of experience. 
You couldn’t get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience. 

Posted by: Corey B | October 30, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

“Thank heavens the Clinton’s were there to help Obama understand”?
Obama’s analytical powers are not in question here not is his need to gather information about a serious problem before offering solutions.
Wisdom is not measured in what we know, but in how we use it. Obama has shown he is wise. You have shown that you seek to divide.

Posted by: seemstome | October 30, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

sarah painin wants to run for pres in four years –IT WILL TAKE FAR MORE THAN THAT TO FILL HER EMPTY HEAD—-alaska can keep her

Posted by: rodney | October 30, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Actually the reference to Obama “selling” what his advisors tell him to do is very funny too (given the tv ad background of some of his senior campaign people).
Bill is a sly one! Too funny.

Posted by: Echo21 | October 30, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

mccain you came and spread lies deciet and hate and you have got what you deserve —go home and count your millions and figure how much taxes you will pay next year—you can cry along with your big business and big oil buddies—-as for the rest of us we will live a little better—-you have proven that there are a lot getting educated and the ignorant are not the majority.
goodbye

Posted by: rodney | October 30, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

palin, why haven’t you released your medical records? Your people said they would be released at the beginning of the week. It’s now Thursday, why are you stalling???

Posted by: pt | October 30, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

America deserves better!
Posted by: tina |
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America deserves the best that we can get. That is why we will be enthusiasitically electing Barack Obama as our nest President.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 30, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

ABC is obviously backing McCain, Jake is just a soldier doing his job.
Why he probably is just as impressed with Obama’s abilities as the rest of the country.
You can vote for him, Jake, your secret is safe.

Posted by: seemstome | October 30, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

rodney, that is exactly what i was saying
if mccain had listened to his father we would not be in iraq, and we would probally have bin laden by now also.
but instead, georgie number two, told his daddy and his daddies smart men to get lost.
mccain seems to be the same way,
and see that is where supposed experience will get you in trouble,
when you think you are the SMARTEST TACK in the box, you will not hear when your point is dull and all wrong.
I did not get a chance to hear all of the obama speech, (out celebrating one of my children 17th birthday-YEAH!)
but when i did get a chance to listen, it was not as it have been portraited at all. I think it was a well thought out program, and well worth the money, and they spent, and worth our time to listen. I also was glad to see larry king gave his show to mccain, that gave us some balance, mccain does not have as much money as obama, so that was a right move on cnn’ part. I am sure obama and co. were glad cnn did it.
and right minded friends, don’t fool yourselves, mccain and his followers can MOCK obama all they want for obama having put the program on-but you know and I know, if mccain had the money-and had someone smart enough to think of it, he would have done it also.
i did not see the obama program as a victory lap at all, it was just one more chance for people to see, and possible get use to the possibility that this young, (unknown compared to mccain on the big political stage) could actually be president.
i mean I know he is in his forties, but obama does not look as if he even needs to shave yet. not that,that has anything to do with anything, just a trivial observation on my part.

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | October 30, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

rodney,
I don’t know, the Alaskans seem quite pissed with her.
On Nov 4th, she’s going to have to go back to answer a lawsuit filed by someone over her liberal per diem stuff and billing taxpayers for the days she spent at home (And not on official business, which is what the per diem thing is for).

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

McCain Trusted More on Taxes and Economy
After several weeks of John McCain’s campaign attacks on Barack Obama’s tax plan and idea of “spreading the wealth around”, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds voters trust McCain more than Obama on taxes, 47% to 45%.

Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | October 30, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

Corey B,
Where are all of the above-mentionned documents, with regards to McCain and Palin?
What grades did they get in school? Where is a copy of their thesis? Where are Sarah’s medical records?

Posted by: Paul New man | October 30, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Yes, we got it Bill Clinton. Obama doesn’t know what the hell he is doing. SNL was right. he would have to call Hillary and have her tell him what to do.
but Bill, why didn’t Obama call Joe Biden? If he called Hillary and not Joe then why didn’t he chose Clinton?

Posted by: geevill | October 30, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Paul new man,
All we know is that McCain graduated 5th to last in his class, Palin had to go to 5 different colleges in 6 years (for God knows what reason) to get a degree in journalism.
But we DO know that Obama graduated at the top of his class from Harvard, Biden has a doctorate and that both of them are sharp and intelligent men.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Corey , um, Corey B, ah, hum, um, I mean Glory Be,Corey B, I am not sorry to bother you,
You need to get over that stuff, the answers are there, just say you don’t believe it and let that be.
if obama came to you himself and sat down in front of you answered all of those questions you would not believe him
—————
it is so say that mccain and the rep. have once again tried to (and what suprises me is that so MANY people fall for it) dumb down his supporters, and just tell them anything and they except it.
if mccain’ followers really wanted him to win. the would be insisting that he tell people what he would do differnently than george bush, and what he will do for this country going forward.
instead he has planted foolishness in their heads, and they will not question it at all.
john mccain and his straight talk express is almost out of gas, and has three flat tires, and the people on the bus are not asking him, what are you going to do to get us rolling again, they are there asking him to keep telling them “what do you think about the driver of that obama bus?”
The obama bus just passed them, and left a cloud of dust, but they want to know, did he have a birth certificate?
who was his next door neighbor?, does he have a poor aunt?, is it true his mother died?
mccain is satisfied to keep them asking those questions, and they are satisfied to keep asking.
poor mccain and his followers,
by nov. 5th they will realize they can get off of the broken down express, and walk.

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | October 30, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

geevil,
I’m sure McCain didn’t call anybody. That was evident by the knee-jerk way in which he handled the crisis.
He was shooting from the hip, like a true maverick…
Sometimes it’s better to take aim. That chances of hitting the target are much better.
This brought to light the real problem with McCain. He’s impulsive and reactive instead of being calm, collected and listening to his advisors.
What kind of person would you like to have holding the nuclear codes?

Posted by: Paul New man | October 30, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Poor Jake- Constant Clinton Derangement Syndrome. You should seek help. Look, Bill Clinton is 100 times the statesman that Obama will ever be. Of course he called the Clintons- he’s a complete and total novice who is riding into the White House on the back of a disastrous GOP. That, coupled with painting the Clintons as “racists” in order to win the primaries (oh and don’t forget the financial crisis). Look Obama had better pray that real political minds like Bill and Hillary are there to help him in the future- because God knows this country is gonna be in a big mess. Bill and Hillary have been magnanimous and amazing in the wake of her
DNC-forced loss- and the country is lucky to have them at the helm.

Posted by: easye | October 30, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Bill clitno convinced me to vote for McCain. We can’t afford a President who freezes like a deer-in-headlights everytime he has to act.

Posted by: geevill | October 30, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

and I thought typical white person granny was on her deathbed? She’s probably out jogging on the beach now.

Posted by: geevill | October 30, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Corey B,
WE taxpayers gave Obama money of our own free will.
Not like McCain who took Democrat’s and Republican’s money in the public funding, actually. Obama was funded by people who DO support and willingly gave him the money.
I’m sorry, but I’d like to have an INTELLIGENT President and Vice-President, and not an angry man who shoots from the hip and an airhead like Sarah Palin who is intellectually INCURIOUS and thinks the world can be painted in black and white.
(I’m a woman too, for the record, so don’t go about me being sexist)

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

Grey Matter,
Yes, they’re both good men.
Sometimes that worries me. If you look at all the elections from Reagan in 1980 through Bush in 2004, the American public has chosen the dumb one – with the notable exception of Bill Clinton.
And Clinton was only able to get elected by acting like he was just another good old Southern boy.
There is a great divide between Americans with intellect and those without. Those without tend to be afraid of intelligent candidates, so they choose someone they can identify with.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 30, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

Paul new man,
Now those PUMAs are wailing that Obama is being sexist over the ad he put Palin winking in it, to question McCain’s judgement.
Like I said in the other thread, Sarah Palin should grow a spine, because that’s needed to be able to be second in line to be the leader of the free world.
Gosh, can we have an intelligent President? We won’t keep on invading the wrong country and sending men and women to die and keep wrecking our economy. John McCain has proven to be erratic and a impulsive person- aka look at his VP pick.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

Are these comments being moderated?
I see posts that dissappear a few minutes later, including one of mine.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 30, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Wow, we can have a president who thinks, who is calm in a crisis, who consults experts on both sides of the aisle, who will help small businesses and the middle class. And who wants to do the right thing for our long term economic health.
Or we can have someone who flies off the handle, who dismisses anyone with a different opinion as wrong without weighing the facts and who is stubbornly embracing the failed economic policies of Bush that got us to this low point.
I like the first choice so I’m voting for Obama.
Bill can still give the best speeches!

Posted by: Lydia | October 30, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

easye,
I am a Clinton supporter too. However, I don’t agree with you not-so-positive assessment of Obama.
I believe that if Bill Clinton is standing on stage with Obama, laughing and patting him on the back, he has also come to the conclusion that Obama will make a great president.
I was pulling for Hillary but she still has time. I expect an important role for her in Obama’s administration. She’ll be in line in 2016 to be the first woman elected POTUS.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 30, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

When all said and done if you were a president needing to hire the most qualified you would base your decision on experience and actual proven details of what you have done.
Both McCain and Palin have that but Obama is the person who goes to the interview with all the right things to say but no experience. We cannot afford to have an intern in office.

Posted by: Corey B | October 30, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Yeah, I’m with geevill on this. We don’t want a President who actually talks to other people, discusses the issues, and thinks about what the best way to proceed is. We want a President who doesn’t blink and just jumps right in regardless of their ignorance! Vote McCain for that kind of President!

Posted by: Aengil | October 30, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Well, the problem is, all these politicians have MILLIONS in the bank so to them, of course there is no crisis, they have money to burn and are totally ignoarant to the facts.
Jiff

Posted by: Jim Mason | October 30, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Thats what is Great about Obama he doesnt act like A Know it all, unlike Mccain, Mccain I Know how to win wars my Friends, I know how to catch Bin Laden My friends, I know how to Balance the budget My Friends, Mccain my friend you dont even know how to run a campaign! Obama clearly shows he will work across the Aisle and seek advice when needed AND NOT BE A MY WAY OR HIGHWAY PRESIDENT!

Posted by: Angie | October 30, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Corey B,
Can you show evidence that either of those two have chosen qualified people to work for them?
Palin is living proof that you’re wrong about McCain.
And it is a well known fact that Palin filled her Alaskan administration with a bunch of unqualified school buddies.
Also, she fired anyone who wouldn’t do her personal bidding and allowed her husband to missuse the office of the governor.

Posted by: Paul New man | October 30, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Corey B,
McCain has yet to show me how his experience has enhanced his judgement.
Obama may not be as experienced, but he HAS shown he has the intelligence and temperament to be president, and he picked a good-back up and confidant, Joe Biden.
I have to admit I almost pity Sarah Palin. I can see McCain picked her only to win the election and to draw crowds- which for all her failings, she manages to do, unlike McCain- he has no intention of giving her a role in policy making. She’s going to be relegated to a ceremonial role, and I can’t see her liking that much.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

easye,
of course, bill is more of a statesman, and he should be, and thank god that this country and obama have him, and others like hime to go to if need be.
A good president will always rely on the good sound advice from former presidents. my question to you, easye,
Who does mccain have to go to? because he sure should have gone to that person, before he picked palin.
no mccain THINKS he is the statesman, and therefore does not need to seek advice from anyone else, (a bad way to think for a president-george w, was the same way. or he just let cheney do the thinking for him-still bad)
mccain supported bush 90 percent of the time. we don’t need to take a chance that mccain will go to george w in the slightest for advise about anything.
it maybe too late, because mccain hired the same people who sacked his campaign for president against bush in 2000. so he is already taking advice from bush people, we cannot take that chance.
mccain going to george w. for advice
against
obama going to bill c. for advice.
who do you think the ocuntry will be better off with?
———-
and geevil-bill clinton convienced you to vote for mccain-come on now, you were going to vote for mccain at any rate.
mccain gives more deer in the headlight looks that any of the four of them.
just last night on larry king with cnn,
he had several.
and with tom brokaw he had several.
I think his are more-”senior moments”
rather than deer in the headlight looks.

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | October 30, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Why did Obama allegedly call Clinton (probably didn’t) and not Joe Biden?????
How about that Michelle tape being played soon!

Posted by: geevill | October 30, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

“come on now, you were going to vote for mccain at any rate.’
I was going to vote for Clinton, unless she chose Obama as VP. Obama supporters have lost more votes for him than they can ever imagine.

Posted by: geevill | October 30, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

geevill,
What Michelle tape?
Can you please be logical, is it not possible that he consulted BOTH Biden and Clinton?
I think McCain, in his mind, doesn’t respect Sarah Palin’s opinion, and probably doesn’t even bother consult her, probably why some of her responses about Pakistan were “off” and they told her to retract her statement. What does THAT say?

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

geevil,
obama didn’t call joe biden, because joe was right there with him.
all of you people calling for tapes and such.
you don’t even believe the people when they are standing there live talking in real time.
If you believe bill clinton,
then you will see why when bill has a choice between voting for obama or voting for mccain.
bill will be voting for obama.
I wonder when they are going to release the take of obama’ long lost dog “BARKIE” barking for joe the plumber?

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | October 30, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

geevill,
Okay, Hillary is pro-choice, yet you’re okay with a ticket that wants to overturn Roe v Wade by appointing to more conservative US Supreme Court Justices to an already lopsided conservative Supreme Court Justice bench?
Hillary would sooner we got out of Iraq, McCain wants to stay and bleed us of $10 billion per month.
Hillary thinks we need to fix the broken health care system, and NOT by having privatization or giving everybody $5000 health care credits (which can’t even pay for one plan).
McCain wants to do all this wonderful stuff, but HOW is he going to pay for it if he’s not raising taxes for ANYONE?

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

well geevil,
good for you, you are going to vote for mccain.
I am an diehard hillary supporter,
and was plugging for her all the way during the primary. but since the convention, and hillary endorsement of obama, I am still with supporting hillary in her support for obama.
she is up close and personal with him’
hillary’ my eyes and ears to obama.
and i always believed hillary had my best interest at heart- and when it comes to a choice between mccain and obama, i through hillary believe obama has my best interest at heart.
i do not make over 250k nor am i a bigwig with a corp.
i am a small business owner, and i will still fare better with obama.
anyone who is a supporter of hillary and what she stands for-will clearly see between obama and mccain
obama wins hands down.
noway, no how”, no mccain-HRC dnc convention 2008

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | October 30, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

So assuming Obama is in the white house, he has a emergency call at 3 a.m.
Instead of making a decision, he calls Buffet, Pelosi, Clinton etc..
And this makes Obama a great candidate?
It is laughable that this guy Obama is even considered for the presidency.

Posted by: Greg h | October 30, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

No cliff,
I think it was the republicans, george bush, henry paulson, who delivered the crap to us.

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | October 30, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Greg h,
Yeah, I’d rather someone like McCain who doesn’t even bother check the facts (saying he opposed the bailout when he hadn’t even read the then 3 PAGE LONG plan), and presses the button without a second thought.
6.A.M: Russia declares the start of the Second Cold War in the face of American nuclear missiles leaving a huge smoking crater in the middle of their country.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

When the Liar 0bama did not needed the former Pres, and used him against his wife, the Liar said the Clinton Administration and the Bush Administration were the same. And, he race-baited the poor Pros.
Now he needs the former Pres. to rescue his convention, what is calling him now?

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

“You know what he did?” Clinton said, heralding Obama’s reaction to the financial crisis. “First he took a little heat for not saying much. I knew what he was doing. He talked to his advisers – he talked to my economic advisers, he called Hillary. He called me. He called Warren Buffet. He called all those people, you know why? Because he knew it was complicated and before he said anything he wanted to understand.”
Got that?
====
We have a phony Liar who knows no ####.

Posted by: skinny dog | October 30, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

of course it would not be that way,
all of the particulars involved in whatever the crisis will be notified.
the question is Who does john Mccain call?
Palin? George W. bush? Cheney?

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | October 30, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

skinny dog,
McCain: There’s NO history of violence between Shiite and Sunni!
Reality: Civil war in Iraq between these two groups until the stop-gap surge managed to tamp it down.
McCain: Ahmadinejad controls ALL the power in Iran!
Reality: The theocracy and descendents of the Ayatollah Khomeini and other religious clerics have even more influence then Ahmadinejad.
McCain: Iraq is the terror front!
Reality: Petraeus, Powell and all the other military commanders say it’s Afghanistan and Pakistan.
McCain: We can just muddle through Afghanistan.
What does this show ab out his thinking? It shows he’s careless AND callous. And doesn’t know a single thing about REALITY.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

geevill,
Treatment? Yes it got dirty at times, if anything, it was the MEDIA who might have been derogatory towards Clinton, not Obama himself being sexist. To her credit, Hillary did not scream sexism but shrugged it off. That’s a real female politician.
I will ask you one more time, Clinton stands for everything McCain is against and Obama is for. Roe v Wade. Iraq. Healthcare. How can you support McCain? HOW is McCain going to pay for all his programs?
I’m sorry, but I don’t take Sarah Palin, who has demonstrated her lack of intelligence and worse, intellectual incuriousity as a substitute or anywhere near Clinton’s equal. She is not on the same level as women like Hillary, Condi, Kay Bailey Hutchison or Snowe. She is NOT.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

I would like to know why the issue of Obama’s birth certificate is not talked about on your show or any show. I get emails on this subject all the time stating that 7 states have filed writs demanding that Obama produce his birth certificate and that Hawaii is one of those states. I have received emails suggesting that the real reason he suspended his campaign and went to Hawaii was not to visit his sick grandmother but to fight the demand for him to produce his birth certificate. By the way, how is his sick grandmother? I have also received emails stating that he has produced a birth certificate but there was not an official seal or that it did not state the hospital where he was born or his weight and height. This should be an issue that is resolved BEFORE the election. This seems like it would be a reporters dream not only to uncover whether or not he is a natural born citizen but to uncover the “so-called Democratic Party” which should be called the “Socialist Party”. If nothing else, I think that it should be acknowledged on the television and radio that this issue does exist.
Thank you for listening to me
Laura

Posted by: Laura | October 30, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Grey Matter ,
You elect Presidents to make executive decisions and not be weak and indecisive consulting others.
Clinton confirmed that Obama was rather clueless and asking his help to understand the financial crisis.
What America does not need is another carter in the white house.

Posted by: Greg h | October 30, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Laura,
Go to factcheck.org. They have a nice, big photo of the official seal and the photographs of the cert taken from different angles for you.
How is it you think e-mails are a reliable source? It puzzles me.
Honestly, does it makes sense that the state would not even check the eligibility of someone running to be President when they are going to have to expend resources like Secret Service protection for him?

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Greg h,
What President doesn’t consult his advisors at all? It’s not like he asked Bill to make the decision for him, he was just getting a feel of stuff from different opinions, he took all this into consideration, then outlined what stance he was going to take.
Obama has shown himself to make, calm, informed decisions unlike McCain who went flailing all the way to D.C and proposing to cancel the debate only to do a one-eighty. Reports from Dems and Repubs there say McCain didn’t contribute anything and sat there quietly for forty minutes while Obama was asking questions.
Apparently McCain pulled that stunt on the advice of his campaign advisors. It tells me something that some of the people he pick aren’t exactly good examples of great judgement.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

In the New Democratic lexicon, inexperience is a qualification, having to call dozens of people in order to form an opinion is leadership, and repeated mutterings of “uh, uh, uh” is silver-tongued statesmanship.
God help us!

Posted by: marylou | October 30, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Greg h
“Clinton confirmed that Obama was rather clueless and asking his help to understand the financial crisis.”
OMG… this is baloney.
Obama has the smartest financial team in the whole campaign, people like Paul Volcker, Walther Buffet …
Talking about clueless, McCain flunked his test as leader during the financial crisis.

Posted by: CLabs | October 30, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Yes indeedy do, Obama did lower his “wealth threshold” to $200,000 in last night’s infomerical.
Don’t worry; sooner or later he’ll get to your income. At least you’ll have the ego boost of knowing that your status is now “wealthy”.
There’s no way he can cut taxes to zero for seniors earning under $50,000 AND send tax refunds to the 40% of us (legal and illegal) who pay zero taxes without picking everyone’s pocket.

Posted by: marylou | October 30, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

marylou,
Please check the facts. He did not lower any threshold.
He has always been saying, AS LONG as you make less then $250 000 a year, your taxes will NOT go up.
But if you make even less: less than $200 000, your taxes will GO DOWN.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

McCain records on his handling of the financial crisis.
1)
“the fundamentals of our economy are strong”
2)
“I do not believe that the American taxpayer should be on the hook for AIG,”
“We cannot have the taxpayers bail out AIG or anybody else.”
Minutes later
“the government was “forced” to rescue AIG because of “failed regulation, reckless management and a casino culture on Wall Street.”
3)
“I’m always for less regulation”

Posted by: CLabs | October 30, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Not to mention:
McCain: I will fire the SEC chairman!
(John! The President can’t fire him!)
McCain: I knew that. But if I’m president, and I ask someone to resign, they’ll resign alright.
Okay…What does THAT mean? Sounds abit sinister.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

(From your cut-and-paste from Wiki)
Oh, I thought she sold the jet on e-bay? :)
[[Palin followed through on a campaign promise to sell the Westwind II jet, a purchase made by the Murkowski administration for $2.7 million in 2005 against the wishes of the legislature.[91] In August 2007, the jet was listed on eBay, but the sale fell through, and the plane was later sold for $2.1 million through a private brokerage firm.[92] ]]
So you admit she lied about the Bridge to Nowhere? She did not kill it, Congress killed it. She was for it all the while.
[[Later, as a vice-presidential candidate, emphasizing her efforts to end abuses of "earmark" spending, Palin characterized her position as having told Congress "thanks, but no thanks, on that bridge to nowhere." This angered many Alaskans in Ketchikan who said that the claim was false and a betrayal of Palin's previous support for their community.[111] Meanwhile, some critics complained that this statement was misleading, since she had repeatedly expressed support for the spending project and even kept the Federal money after the project was canceled.[112] Palin continues to support the Knik Arm project.[101]]]

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Obama does not consider forcing people into the AMT brackets a “tax increase”.

Posted by: geevill | October 30, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

grey Matter-
Everyone make mistakes and she did not go against her own people of Alaska. They wanted it the bridge, she did not but still let the people of Alaska get their wish. A true politician will be on the side of the people regardless of their belief.

Posted by: Corey B | October 30, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Corey B,
Of course I have no problem with that.
But she was not being honest about it. She marketed herself as fighting government pork when she actually supported it! Said she sold the jet on ebay and made a profit when she didn’t!
I don’t understand why she even has to lie about the ebay jet. To appear more folksy? There’s something seriously wrong with that.
I wouldn’t have a problem if she came out and said “Well, the Bridge to Nowhere was a bad choice in retrospect, but at that time I thought it would be something really beneficial for the Alaskan people.” Instead she brags about how she “fought” it. I didn’t like that.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 30, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Not my comment but: “So the 3 AM call came? And Hillary still had to take it?”

Posted by: Spade | October 30, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Greg h: “You elect Presidents to make executive decisions and not be weak and indecisive consulting others.”
We’re electing President. God is not running for President. You don’t get to elect the all-knowing.
Whoever is President is NOT, repeat, NOT going to be an expert in everything. If they make decisions without consulting others, then they’re not only going to be a terrible President, they’re going to be a dangerous President.
‘Consulting others’ is a good thing. It is not weak and indecisive. You know what is weak? NOT consulting others for fear of appearing indecisive. That’s really weak.

Posted by: Aengil | October 30, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Clinton pointed out twice that Obama had to call Big Bubba and Hillary for advice on what to do….
Bill still isn’t giving Obama any real ringing endorsements.

Posted by: Michelle | October 30, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

“Thank heaven the Clintons were there to help Obama understand!”
Jake are you writing news or editorials?
I guess it’s apparent you are writing editorials, opinion pieces – not news.
My immediate response is to remind you of President John F. Kennedy who was well known for consulting widely – to bring in information from different advisors and angles so as to better understand the breadth of any issue.
And then he would use that information to make his own decisions.
Your writing “Thank heaven the Clintons were there to help Obama understand!” is a cheap shot intended to diminish a very sensible and considered approach.
If you’re writing opinion pieces, please identify them as such – and don’t try to pass them off as news.

Posted by: pefros | October 30, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

To hear Clinton talk about how many people Obama called for help, one would think he isn’t ready to lead.

Posted by: Maria | October 30, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

“To hear Clinton talk about how many people Obama called for help, one would think he isn’t ready to lead.”
That’s not thinking.
One would think, if they actually are thinking, that it shows Obama is wise enough to take the advice and consider the views of many when a serious complex issue arises. That’s a bad thing, how exactly?

Posted by: Aengil | October 30, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

lOVE THAT BILL – HE’S A PUMA.
TRYING TO TELL US WHY OBAMA’S NOT QUALIFIED, WHILE HE’S SUPPOSEDLY CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM.
DON’T WORRY BILL, HILLARY’S SUPPORTERS KNOW “THE ONE” IS A MANUFACTURED CANDIDATE, AND WE’RE STILL NOT WILLING TO BUY A CANDIDATE WHO WAS SELECTED, NOT ELECTED.
PRINCIPLE BEFORE PARTY
MCCAIN/PALIN 2008

Posted by: rrow | October 30, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Grey Matter said: “Reports from Dems and Repubs there say McCain didn’t contribute anything and sat there quietly for forty minutes while Obama was asking questions.”
The point of that meeting was to listen to the financial people attending. It was Obama’s interference in the discussion that turned the whole thing into a shouting and finger-pointing session.

Posted by: cappamore | October 30, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Reports from that meeting indicate the questions asked were precisely on point and extremely relevant, and aided the exchange of information, not detracted from it.

Posted by: pefros | October 30, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

After how Clinton wrecked Hillary’s campaign in the primaries, if I were Obama, I’d say, uh no thanks Clinton – don’t speak for me!

Posted by: junior | October 31, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

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