By Rigel Anderson

Oct 1, 2008 6:45pm

McCain and Palin Sow Doubts About Ifill

ABC News’ Teddy Davis, Matt Jaffe, and Imtiyaz Delawala Report: On the eve of Thursday’s vice-presidential debate in St. Louis, the McCain campaign is voicing confidence in moderator Gwen Ifill’s professionalism while simultaneously sowing doubts about her ability to be fair after learning that she is working on a book about a new generation of black leaders called, "Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama."

The book, which is being published by RandomHouse, is set to be released on Jan. 20, 2009, the same day that the next president is sworn into office.

"Does this help that she has written a book that is favorable to Sen. Obama? Probably not," John McCain told Fox News’ Carl Cameron on Wednesday. 

McCain embedded his doubts about the VP debate moderator in a set of comments that otherwise voiced confidence in Ifill who is the anchor of WETA’s "Washington Week" and a senior correspondent for PBS’ "The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer."

Sarah Palin took a similar tack, downplaying the book’s significance while simultaneously suggesting that it would force her to work "that much harder."

"I am not going to let it be a concern," said Palin on Sean Hannity’s radio program before implying that Ifill’s book contains a pro-Obama bias that will force the G.O.P. ticket to "work that much harder."

"Its motivating to me even to hear Gwen’s comments there," said Palin, referring to a clip of Ifill discussing her book, "because again, that will make us work that much harder and that provides even more fairness and objectivity and choices for the voters on November 4th, if we try that much harder."

Rudy Giuliani joined McCain and Palin in sowing doubts about Ifill without directly criticizing her.

Speaking to reporters on a conference call arranged by the McCain campaign, the former New York mayor described Ifill as a "very honest, decent journalist," adding that he has "no question that she will be perfectly fair in the way she asks the questions."

But like McCain and Palin, Giuliani simultaneously raised doubts about her.

"If the moderator of this debate were someone who was writing a book that basically was ‘The Age of McCain,’ I have a feeling that a lot more of these publications would be saying that the person should not be doing it," said Giuliani. "Now it might be totally unfair to do that. Just as I think it’s totally unfair to do this. But it’s just one more indication of how there is a double-standard in the way this campaign is treated."

"But on the basic question," he continued, ‘Should Gwen Ifill do the debate?’ Yes, she should. But the question, ‘If you put the shoe on the other foot what kind of outcry would there be?’"

Biden spokesman David Wade accused the McCain campaign of "working the refs" while simultaneously talking up Palin’s debate skills by referring to the Alaska governor as an "undefeated Cicero of the Snow."

"The McCain campaign is acting in a manner befitting Washington insiders, working the refs, distracting for dear life from the issues at stake in this debate which unfortunately for them are what honest to goodness Americans actually care about," said Wade. "It’s desperate enough the way they’ve talked down the debating skills of their own undefeated Cicero of the Snow, next I assume they’ll turn their fire on the camera guy and the nice fella who fills the M and M tray in the Green Room."

McCain’s talk-radio supporters were unsparing in their criticism of Ifill.

Rush Limbaugh described Ifill as "totally in the tank for Barack Obama" on his Wednesday radio program.

"This is a conflict of interest," Rush Limbaugh said Wednesday. "She has a financial stake in Obama winning the race in addition to whatever other stakes that she has invested in Obama winning the presidential race."

Ifill dismissed the criticism from conservatives in an interview with the Associated Press.

"I’ve got a pretty long track record covering politics and news, so I’m not particularly worried that one-day blog chatter is going to destroy my reputation," Ifill told the A.P. "The proof is in the pudding. They can watch the debate tomorrow night and make their own decisions about whether or not I’ve done my job."

Ifill said that it was her publisher, not herself, who set Inauguration Day as the release date for book. She said Obama’s story, which she has yet to write, is only a small part of the book, which discusses how politics in the black community have changed since the civil rights era.

Former Bush Secretary of State Colin Powell is also a subject of the book.

ABC News’ Rigel Anderson and Ferdous Al-Faruque contributed to this report.

User Comments

I’m a Democrat and an Ifill fan, but I still think this is a conflict of interest. Recently, Ifill has shown bias in reporting (on Washington Week and at the RNC). Now, she has a pro-Obama book due out. She should not be moderating the VP debate.

Posted by: katherine | October 1, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Posted by: katherine ..a DEM that knows what she is saying…I’m impressed.

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Our country is crumbling, and Katherine here wants to worry about who’s moderating a debate. Are you also deeply concerned Katherine about how Fox News commentator is involved with and advising the McCain campaign? Where’s your righteous indignation about that issue, Katherine? Let’s hear it. And while you’re at it, let’s hear your righteous indignation about McCain’s involvement in the Keating 5 during the S&L crisis. McCain is a con-man and a crook. We’ve already had that type of person in office the last 8 horrible years (and look what happened because of it, war, and our economy near a depression). We don’t need another one. I’m voting for Obama so this country can get back on track.

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 1, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Didn’t the McCain Campaign agree to Ms Ifill?
She signed her book deal in the Spring of 2007. She’s already been interviewed about it. Thus, they’ve known about it.
So, why suddenly is it an issue???
It’s just more of the same… anything but the issues, for the Republicons.
Lastly, do you think that the Obama Campaign will whine, when Bob Shieffer moderates a debate? I doubt it, even though Shieffer is a family friend of the Bushes.

Posted by: baz | October 1, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Posted by: katherine ..a DEM that knows what she is saying…I’m impressed.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 1, 2008 7:03:34 PM
Another fool republican who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m bored.

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 1, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

I am a Democrat and I like Ifill, but I also know she is pro-Obama based on her past comments. However, I am not that concerned because I want Palin to really have to come forth with strength and knowledge … since I am voting for McCain .

Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | October 1, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

This is twisted! McCain (in so many words): “I know she’ll be professional about it. But she does have a book coming out with Obama’s name on the cover? Hmmmmm….”
Cue camera to “Right-winger” of the outspoken variety who decries any sort of media bias, yet can watch Fox News without barfing: “This is outrageous! I won’t even watch this bias debacle. It won’t make me question Palin’s qualifications of potentially running a country of 300 million and being commander in chief of our armed forces.” Isn’t distraction from the real issues (Which Palin should be prepped on) great!

Posted by: Tiff | October 1, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Another fool republican who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m bored.
Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama….bored?..WANT TO DEBATE A COUPLE FACTS?

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

I am a Democrat and I like Ifill, but I also know she is pro-Obama based on her past comments. However, I am not that concerned because I want Palin to really have to come forth with strength and knowledge … since I am voting for McCain .
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | Oct 1, 2008 7:08:37 PM
Yeah, a dem is voting for McCain. Sorry, you’re not a dem. You’re a republican pretending to be a dem. And it’s boring. But since you’re so pro-McCain, Francisco, do tell us why you want to vote for McCain. Can you explain why we shouldn’t be concerned with McCain’s involvement in the Keating 5 and the S&L crisis. While you’re at it, why not tell us all why it is McCain claims to be a maverick. Surely, you’ll know all the details since you want to vote for McCain. Go on now, Francisco the democrat, tell us why you’re voting to put a con-man like McCain in office. Tell us why you’d sell you’re country out to a crook like McCain. Tell us now.

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 1, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Republican Christians for Obama…you can choose the topic

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Excuses already prepared. Another no win situation for the Dems.

Posted by: Brian | October 1, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Republicans Christians for Obama: Well, I don’t watch Fox, so I can’t give an informed response. Sorry on that one. I do, however, have righteous indignation: about Obama’s connection to Rezko; his vote for FISA (after he pledged not to vote for it); his backtracking on campaign finance reform (does it take almost a billion dollars to run a campaign to get a person to represent us? And what could we have done with that money?; his backtracking on Iraq (and that silly “I have a bracelet, too” business). I also have concern when I watch a stadium of 84,000 euphoric people worshipping a man who just came onto the political scene. He’s worshipped, not admired, and I’ve never seen that before with politican. It’s a little scary to me…just my opinion. So, yes, I have indignation. It’s just not what you want me to be angry about. Isn’t this a democracy? Don’t I have a right to my view?

Posted by: katherine | October 1, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

WANT TO DEBATE A COUPLE FACTS?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 1, 2008 7:13:19 PM
Yes, let’s start with McCain’s involvement in the Keating 5 (where McCain chose to defend Keating, the crook who drove the S&L crisis which caused hundreds of thousands of people to lose their life savings, instead of defending America and it’s people against just criminal behavior). Tell us how that sort of man is fit to serve as president of this country.

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 1, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi paid her husband’s real estate and investment firm nearly $100,000 from her political action committee over the past decade, a practice that she voted to ban last year and that her party condemned as part of the “culture of corruption” when Republicans did it.

Posted by: Lefty O'Doule | October 1, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Republican Christians for Obama,,, a liberaql chicken you are…instead of bashing people with your half truths and C R A P…debate a topic..go for it.

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Tell us how that sort of man is fit to serve as president of this country.
Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama;;;he would fit right in with all other presidents…next question

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Since when have the Democratic media been in favor for republicans? They turtled for the war so their corporate owners could profit off of it. And the Dems refused to end the war(s) or make an effort in ’04 when Bush should have lost if Kerry got off his butt or investigated the massive FRAUD here in OH. But no, now the media is attacking the only conservative on the stage and the 3rd liberal (McCain) is cannibalizing her future to chum up to the “statist in theif”; And their facilitators in the supposed “opposition party.” Gosh it’d be nice if the Democrats could end the war, and not waste time trying to bail out Billionaires! But no, they’d rather make an example of the only conservative on the stage, and send the liberal “three Amigos” (Obama/Biden/McCain) up to rule our country and waste our money on endless wars and welfare for the opulent rich. This election is a rigged, sorrowful embarrassment! Vote 3rd party, at least you won’t have to shower afterwards, and will be able to sleep at night!

Posted by: hmn | October 1, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Republican Christians for Obama,,, a liberaql chicken you are…instead of bashing people with your half truths and C R A P…debate a topic..go for it.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 1, 2008 7:17:37 PM
You suggested a topic to debate, and I gave it to you. Like McCain, instead of debating the issues, you run for cover, like a coward. Lord help McCain voters, and do your research on McCain, just as I have, and what you’ll learn is that McCain is indeed unfit to serve. Read up on the Keating 5.

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 1, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Republican Christians for Obama l am going to prove to you you don’t have a clue..here is a question for you..is Plain qualified to be VP ? ) not experienced, but qualified)

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Republican Christians for Obama…yo asked me if McCain were fit to be president…i answered “yes”…did you want me to ramble on and foam at the mouth like you?..that’s not in my conservative ways.

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

if McCain is not fit to be president, the other 43 were not also.

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Palin’s running for cover.. They might ask her if Alaska in the Northern or Southern Hemisphere.. Blame the Media.. That’s the true Republican way.. She is a joke, but she fit’s right in with the bush Doctrine..even though she has no idea what it is. Someone should tell her the names of the News Papers in the cities of Alaska.. It wont help, but maybe she’ll be able to name one.

Posted by: J.Murphy, CA. | October 1, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Republican Christians for Obama: You do not know your political history. McCain, after the Keating 5 scandal, has spent his life fighting corruption. Has Obama done that? Or will we have a Rezko slush fund (as pointed out on SNL) if Obama is president? Do you really want a guy who is so in love with his own story that he had to pen two books about himself before the age of 44? Do you really want a guy with NO experience and has spent his short tenure in office giving kickbacks to Rezko and taking money from Fannie and Freddie? Well, I’m a Dem voting McCain because it’s clear who has integrity.

Posted by: katherine | October 1, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Republican Christians for Obama l am going to prove to you you don’t have a clue..here is a question for you..is Plain qualified to be VP ? ) not experienced, but qualified)
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 1, 2008 7:22:55 PM
No, she isn’t. You have yet to explain how McCain’s involvement in the Keating 5 can be defended. You have yet to debate me on this issue. You asked me to choose a topic. You said you’d debate me. You didn’t hold up your end of the bargain. Just like a republican. And also just like a republican, when you don’t hold up your end of the bargain, you try to change the subject. It’s a waste of time talking to people like you. You’re lost. Hopefully, there are more people in this country who do indeed put country first and who will vote for Obama. If you’re still interested in debating, please get to defending McCain’s involvement in the Keating 5.

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 1, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Read up on the Keating 5.
Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama
ok…i read up on the Keating 5..what’s your point?

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

So everybody’s concerned about Ifill moderating the lightweight Sarah Palin’s debate (I assume they would prefer Hannity…)
Any concerns about TOM BROKAW moderating Obama’s debate with McCain?
Because we can’t all be Jim Lehrer, you know.

Posted by: mellowinman | October 1, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

a republican christian for obama is akin to Ahmadinejad for Satan.

Posted by: obamayomama | October 1, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Katherine: Do your research on the Keating 5. McCain turned against his fellow conspirators, like a coward, when he realized his political career would be finished (and it should have been). McCain was a coward then, and he is a coward now. McCain was deemed then the worst of the Keating 5. McCain sold out America to protect a crook. He is unfit to serve.

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 1, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

ok…McCain did do just what you said he did..what’s your point?…i can’t debate you if i do not know what your point is

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

The headline is really misleading – McCain very clearly said he believes the moderator will be professional and should not be replaced. Do the people need to know that the moderator has a financial interest in seeing Obama win the election? Absolutely. That’s all that’s going on here.

Posted by: Me Again | October 1, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

uyou lose…Palin is qualified…i can prove it.

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

You can put Lipstick on Gwen Ifill, but She is still very UGLY and very much a pinko-communist.

Posted by: Gwen_is_a_ZERO | October 1, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

ok…i read up on the Keating 5..what’s your point?
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 1, 2008 7:27:47 PM
No, you didn’t, or you’d know what the point is. You seemed so confidant when you challenged me to a debate. Now you have nothing to say, and never debated the issue. Goodbye.

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 1, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

i agree with you on the keating 5…you were wrong about Palin…i win..2 for me..1 for you

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

uyou lose…Palin is qualified…i can prove it.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Oct 1, 2008 7:31:29 PM
Uh huh. Tell it to Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson, and the rest of the conservatives who are now calling for Palin to step down.

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | October 1, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

no issue to debate on Keating…i agreed with you…you were wrong about palin..i win

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

Why is the McCain campaign waiting until the night before the debate to bring this up? If it was a serious concern they would have raised it earlier—this is just another attempt to blame Palin’s inexperience and inability to define her candidacy (not to mention her incomplete knowledge of relevant political issues) on a biased media. McCain is preemptively giving excuses for Palin’s poor performance in tomorrows debate–it is disturbing that he has so little faith in his running mate and further illustrates his egregious lack of judgment.

Posted by: lily78 | October 1, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

i deal with facts…if i give you a fact that proves me right..will you agree with me?

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

I think this is outrageous. I think Gwen Ifill owed it to the American people to remove herself from the debates due to a conflict of interest and a financial stake in the election. The fact that she did not do this on her own speaks to her lack of character and integrity…I am not surprised though. And I will be betting money that she will show her bias in the debates. I cannot imagine the reaction that we would have heard had this been a Moderator who had written a book favorable to McCain. There would have been protests galore. My son is 18 and voting for the first time-he said Ifill it is wrong. Out of the mouth of babes…Ifill will laugh all the way to the bank.

Posted by: djn | October 1, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

remeber…i said ” qualified to be VP”…not experienced

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

I would like for everyone who “knows that Gwen Ifill is for Obama” to give me concrete, factual, verifiable examples of her bias. I don’t want to hear about your gut feeling or what you heard from someone else. List them. What’d she say? When did she say it? You can’t because there is none. You couldn’t find a more principled, fair, journalist if you tried. Conflict of interest, my aunt suzy. This is as nonsensical as it gets. What I know is that this is another Republican smoke screen to keep us from looking too closely at their Cicero of the Snow. Give it a rest.

Posted by: carole | October 1, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Nobama´s friends and advisors:
- Tony Reszko.
- Bill Ayers.
- Rev. Wright.
- Jim Johnson.
- Franklin Raines.
- And the Do-Nothing Congress leaded by harpy Nancy Pelosi and incompetent Chris Dodd.
Scary!!

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | October 1, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

It is clearly too late to talk about unfairness. Besides, anyone who has seen Ifill moderate a debate knows that she is fair. That is why she was picked by the Republican Party. Just because she has a book coming out focused on young black politicians does not mean that she will describe Obama favorably.

Posted by: PGS | October 1, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

here is whatt the constiution of the united states says..even your ACLU buddies cannot argue this…heck , Palin is qualifed and can perform the duties of VP with her eyes closed:..read and weep !!!
III Qualifications and Candidacy
The qualifications for the vice presidency are the same as those for the presidency. The vice president must be a native-born American of at least 35 years of age who has resided in the United States for at least 14 years.
For most of U.S. history, the vice president’s role was limited to these largely ceremonial constitutional obligations. Since World War II (1939-1945) the president and Congress have assigned more and more responsibilities to the vice president. The vice president attends Cabinet meetings and sessions of the National Security Council, the president’s chief advisory panel for formulating and implementing policies related to the military, foreign relations, and other national security issues.
The president also relies on the vice president to lead important presidential committees and panels, which study issues such as environmental protection, urban renewal, and reducing the size of the government bureaucracy. In addition, the vice president often travels to other countries to represent the president at international conferences, the funerals of foreign dignitaries, and other important events.
When the president is away from Washington, D.C., or busy with other duties, the vice president often greets White House guests of many kinds, from groups of Boy Scouts to members of professional associations. If the president is unavailable, the vice president may also attend luncheons and dinners for diplomats or other officials from abroad, and hold meetings with leaders from business groups, labor unions, and other important political constituencies.

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Repubs for Obama..Actually in fact The Senate Ethics Committee cleared McCain and Glenn of any wrong doing in the Lincoln Savings or Keating Five, four of which were dems, although they did point out that Glenn and McCain used poor judgement….McCain may be a lot of things to you, but a coward he is not….

Posted by: checks and balances | October 1, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

I don’t have a problems with her, even though her comments at the RNC convention was just a tad smarmey… but can you imagine Hannity hosting a debate?No doubt the roar would be felt around the world. It wasn’t that long ago that Democrats wouldn’t even appear on fox.

Posted by: david | October 1, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Typical distraction. Typical Republican’s changing the rules when they’re losing. They’ve known Ifill for years. On the other hand, if they didn’t even bother vetting Palin, why would they even think to vett the moderator of her debate. What an incompetent bunch. Another way McCain is just like Bush. Can America survive another 4 years of Republican bumbling and incompetence? i don’t think so.
Bush/McCain. No More Years!!

Posted by: thebob.bob | October 1, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

The McCain campaign evaluated and agreed to this moderator with full knowledge of the book. Their whining now looks at best like more spin and at worst like blatant incompetence.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 1, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

The issue is with the TIMING of the McCain group in bringing this concern into the spot light — the day before the debate. May be too late to actually change moderators so its either cancel the debate until another moderator is selected and approved or allow the debate to continue with the McCain camp having a “pre-established excuse” if Palin falters. Knowledge about the book has been public for close to a year now. That’s why there isn’t as much public empathy for McCain & Palin as there could have been for something like this. It is their blatant ongoing use of GUILE (which as Christians they should know is sinful) that continues to strike a nerve with people. It’s insulting to us that they really think the public is so stupid as to fall for these tactics.

Posted by: TheWord | October 1, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Often the lable Conservative is just another name for butcher. Butchers of hundreds of thousands of Iraq citizens, 60% or more under the age of 18, and the reason that 4176 U.S Soldiers are dead.Send all the Conservatives who backed this WAR to the Hague.P.S. I bet this bit of truth will get these butchers off their knees and to the keyboard.

Posted by: STOPWAR | October 1, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

The only way the Left can win is by cheating. How else can you get a majority to willingly give up their Constitutional freedoms?
If we had decent education in this country about what the Founding Fathers intended we wouldn’t have allowed all the perversions to the Constitution that started in the late 17th century and continue to this day.
All the safeguards against the flaws of pure Democracies are mostly gone now and we are destined to follow the course of the past ones that all failed. It starts with economic collapse and ends in a violent overthrow of the government to install an all too powerful leader that promises to save the citizens. Then power corrupts the leader and the tyranny begins. The economic collapse has clearly started.
The best chance we have is to educate the masses about the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and Founding Fathers that created a unique form of government that for the first time in history was “of the People, by the People and for the People.” The economic growth that followed resulted in the Industrial, Machine, Communication and Computer Revolutions that advanced mankind around 5000 years in approximately 200.
If Obama is elected, he has promised higher taxes and bigger government. This will only hasten economic collapse.
McCain has promised to reduce the size and expense of government and reduce taxes. This is the right direction to restore economic growth.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

I watch a lot of PBS and it has been clear to me that Gwen Ifill is totally infatuated with Sen. Obama. She should not be moderating the VP debate. Would the Obama campaign accept Sean Hannity as moderator? I think not.

Posted by: Graniteman | October 1, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Posted by: STOPWAR ,,,you really don’t want to go there do you?/..you wil lose this one

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

I think this is outrageous. I think Gwen Ifill owed it to the American people to remove herself from the debates due to a conflict of interest and a financial stake in the election. Posted by: djn | Oct 1, 2008 7:36:19 PM
It’s a debate, not a court case. I don’t see any reason for Ifill to remove herself. Any bias on her part would be completely transparent, the whole world is watching. There is no conflict of interest.

Posted by: lily78 | October 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Word is, October surprise will be dropped by Palin during the debate.
It will be disclosed Obama is not Black, but “RED”

Posted by: TANSTAAFL: | October 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

I am stilling looking for that liberal who is really unbiased. I do not believe that the modern liberal can be unbiased. It is the nature of the philosophy. These are not the liberals of JFK or Sam Nunn, these are ideologues with no regard for tolerance of other people’s point of view. Liberal journalist and the rags they work for constantly try to tell us they are unbiased. Yet . . . there were how many journalist up in Alaska verses how many went to Chicago to do their vetting. Says it all!

Posted by: Cecil Hill | October 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

i will spare you WWII…you call conservatives butchers for 4000 dead…you idiot moron…ok, you asked for it..over 50,000 dead in Korea and ovr 50,000 dead in Vietnam..and both DEM wars…butchers?///..you are pathetic..I don’t need to make you look like a fool…you do it to youerself.

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

carole, if Obama wins then her book will certainly sell more. There is no better conflict of interest than money.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Not a distraction..more like a concern. I understand that she will profit financially off of a Obama win…Hey why not have Lambuagh or Hannity host the next presidential debate? Sounds like a fair trade off.. as they would profit financially off of a McCain win.. and we’ll get Polosi and her husband to cater the event afterwards with Dem Pac money…

Posted by: checks and balances | October 1, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Conflict of interest? Ifil is writing a book ABOUT politics in the black community at a time where a black man is running for president. We have no indication from Ifil, her publisher or anyone familiar with this book that the book is an effort to PROMOTE black politicians over their white, pink or purple adversaries at the ballot box. The fact is, she hasn’t even written the chapter on Obama.
I’m an Independent and I’m frankly tired of hearing the Republicans’ tired line about the liberal media, which is really just an effort to shame honest journalists into going easier on the Right. I’d love for the whining to stop so an honest discourse can ensue. Lets put this Ifil issue in perspective, please.

Posted by: Nick | October 1, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Katherine’s statement would be more credible, if she did not state that she is a democrat and an Ifil fan (refer first posting). Palin appears to be doomed, having a moderator who is black and much less beautiful than she is. I think she should pull out of the debate (or decline to appear) on the ground that this is an Obama driven moderator. However, having God and the force of goodness on her side, she will reveal her ultimate secret weapon and emerge victorious. Mark my words !

Posted by: nagamas | October 1, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Don’t you feel that those
“…republicans for OBAMA….”
are a silly bunch?

Posted by: tess | October 1, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Don’t you feel that those
“…republicans for OBAMA….”
are a silly bunch?

Posted by: tess | October 1, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

I believe Ifill neglected to inform the commission about her upcoming book. She has a financial stake in the outcome of this election. The commission should remove her as moderator. It is a clear conflict of interest, apart from any alleged bias. This is strictly a financial conflict and she should be gone.
Can you imagine the outcry if, say, a Fox News commentator were moderating the debate. The lefties would be going insane. (And I AM a lefty! And I would be going insane!)

Posted by: beth | October 1, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

McCain and Palin will do anything to whine and perhaps even gain some more cram time ….
Just shows she is STILL not ready to debate … STILL an embarassment to the GOP.
Suck it up ..

Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Typical GOP…..
Manufacture an issue. Insult someone who’s a respected professional.
My personal favorite this week is “Gotcha Journalism”, LOL. Media can’t “Getcha” if there isn’t anything to get.
Some politicians sure seem to think we’ll buy any story they make up. I’d suggest respecting the voter and the truth!

Posted by: julieah | October 1, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Cecil Hill …good points about liberals..a few years back they would just say C R A P to start a fight…i actually think they are starting to believe their own C R A P now..scary, eh?

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Republican Christians for Obama! right your just another left wing nut who would know what a Christian is if one him you in the face.
This is too funny, who cares about the keating 5. The DEMOCRATIC investigator said McCain did nothing wrong. FOCUS on reality. Aires, Wright, Rezco and the other chicago hacks. How about his advisor frank reins.. now he’s a thief, run fannie into the ground, 10 times bigger than enron… get a life, get new words moonbat looser

Posted by: NObama NObiden NOway | October 1, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Stopwar…Sounds good to me I’ll be the first to contribute to your plane ticket to the border of Iraq and Iran so that you may hold up your protest sign “stop war” and persaude the extremes that we are a peace loving people who wish no harm on others if they promise to stop bombing our people and stop threatening to nuc everyone who does not agree with them….YOU FIRST!!!!

Posted by: checks and balances | October 1, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

It doesn’t matter who is moderating. Doesn’t anyone remember the Clinton/Obama debate with Gibson and Stephanopoulos at the helm? The ridiculous and embarrassing questions they asked Obama and allowed Clinton basically a free ride that night? Why don’t you wear a flag pin Sen. Obama and other nonsense? Maybe they all have their personal preference but some moderators are better at keeping it to themselves. Gwen Ifill will do just fine. PBS folks are better at this than the networks’ people. Besides, everyone is walking on eggshells lest they are perceived to be harassing Palin.

Posted by: counting crows | October 1, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Republican = Nope
Christian = Doubt it…just a screen
For Obama = Clearly
You are trying to use deception, just like your candidate. Step up, step out, and be bold in who you are, just quit lying…Obama and his cronies in the media are doing enough of that.

Posted by: joesixpack | October 1, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

As long as Ifill is even-handed with her treatment of the VP candidates, I don’t see how her personal inclinations really matter. If there is any hint of favoritism there will be plenty of people who will call foul.

Posted by: lily78 | October 1, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Did you all here about Obama now using his strong arm tactics on radio and tv in Pennsylvania? The anti-gun/religion clinger is trying to stop the NRA from emphasizing his voting record against the 2nd amendment. Typical of his Chicago tactics of the last decade. Ugh! I loathe this man!

Posted by: Janet Fosny | October 1, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Ifill does not have an ideological or political conflict of interest. She seems, to me, to be a balanced journalist. She does, however, have a financial conflict of interest. If Obama wins, Ifill will sell more copies of her book, because it features Obama and includes his name in the title. Therefore, she should withdraw from the debate.

Posted by: congaree | October 1, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

i asked a liberal a question today…What do you feel is Obama’s greatest strength?..
i love libearls, they will never answer your question
the reply was this ( this really was said).. Obama will do a better job than Bush..we cannot have another 8 years of this..Palin is an idiot and McCain is too old.

Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 1, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

P andering
A rrogant
L aughingstock
I gnorant on the issues
N ot a credible choice

Posted by: PaulinVanc | October 1, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

This is called hedging your bets. If the debate is not a loss for Palin, they will say she did well against all odds with the deck stacked against her. If she does mediocre or fails, then they will blame it on the moderator. Clearly, they need as many excuses as possible. We all know Palin has a small chance of looking good. So, this will help to change the subject. Which is not the change we need….

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 1, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

The idea that Obama could be elected is one of the most terrifying things imaginable. A true Christian would never vote for him – they would see him for what he is, which is Muslim. You know, one of the ones planning to take over the US “from the inside” and now with the American voters help no less.

Posted by: kportrn | October 1, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

More than 90% of African Amrican support
Obama. So, We all know Who need to be fair? Obama or McCain?

Posted by: alex | October 1, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

Ok guys and gals, which one of you actually read the story?. She hasn’t written the part about Obama. How can the McCain campaign or anyone else know that she has a bias?
I really want a answer since y’all seem to know so much.

Posted by: revhillbilly | October 1, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Assuming Ifill has already been given the questions for the debate and since it’s obvious she’s in the tank for Obama and she really doesn’t want her book to tank, it would be in her best interest to prep Biden before Thurs. nite. If Biden doesn’t stumble and bumble you’ll know why.

Posted by: stfudems | October 1, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Governor Palin is “of the People” like no politician I’ve ever seen before. She has proved she is “for the People” by fighting corruption in Alaska even when it was in her own party. She will win the debate because her beliefs are based on firm moral values, as the Founding Fathers intended, and will be elected to the VP spot “by the People” in November.
It doesn’t really matter that Ifill is financially motivated for Obama to win; clear bias on her part will only help Palin. Biden has no set values other than promise anything to anyone to win and that will be clear in the debate.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

What would Don Imus say about this? Too bad he was neutered and silenced by the PC crowd and, in particular, Ms. Ifill, who was an enthusiastic particpant in his public hanging.

Posted by: jcarob | October 1, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Kportn:
You really need to check your meds. seriously, your paranoia and delusions seem to be taking over.

Posted by: revhillbilly | October 1, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

wow the loons are out tonight. I was looking for a rational debate, but y’all… wow… full of hate paranoia and delusions. good luck with life.
desperation is a stinky cologne.

Posted by: revhillbilly | October 1, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

Education is key to intelligent voting and, Kportrn, you ought to try it. Factcheck websites wouldn’t be in business if they were “biased”.
Obama IS NOT MUSLIM, however, I’d be fine with it as long as we aren’t trying to elect ANY religious fanatics!
GET THE FACTS ’cause you sure aren’t getting them from a reliable media outlet.
P.S. Don’t bother responding…I won’t be back. You judgemental Christians freak me out!

Posted by: julieah | October 1, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

When is Sarah Palin going to release her tax returns like all the other candidates have done?
I’m not speaking about the delayed Finacial Disclosure that is required by the FEC and is overdue.
I think the Mccain campaign is worried about the unethical per diem expenses that she and her family charged the state of Alaska.
Basically she charged the state $17,000 for meals that she consumed while home in Wasilla. She also charged the state $43,000 for Todd’s and her children’s travel between Juneau and Wasilla. Travel expenses are not legal if used by family- just the employee.
Some reformer.

Posted by: Elizabeth Gilmore | October 1, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

aaah an ordained Minister shows up and y’all go quiet. interesting.
Oh no, stop with the hate speech the minister might hear… shame on you.

Posted by: revhillbilly | October 1, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

I think its unfair for Ifill to moderate this debates, I want it to be as unbiased and as fair as possible. But this is OLD news. These moderaters were AGREED upon a year ago by BOTH Parties. And Now A DAY before the debates the republicans want to bring this up?!?! Why not MONTHS AGO If they felt it was Unfair?!?! The McCain campaign is making me sick!!! I cant wait till these elections are over…

Posted by: Frankie from Miami FL | October 1, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

To the people who feel Gwen Ifill is not professional enough to moderate a debate, I suppose you must also feel that Dr. Jerome Corsi is a factual writer, too! I can’t believe this is actually a debatable point. Let the questions speak for themselves, and debaters stand on their own merits. I’m disappointed people can not discern the difference between spin doctoring and true journalistic integrity.
Gwen has done unbiased journalistic work for longer than most of us have truly followed politics. She is doing a book on the growing number of African Americans making strides in politics. Colin Powell is one of the subjects covered in the book for goodness sakes! Stop worrying about who the moderator is while hiding behind your candidate’s interview failures and start focusing on the facts!
I hope Gov. Palin does well. Anyone who is decent should not wish to see her fail even if it is to benefit the candidate I would hope to win. However should she fail as she has at various other interviews, I would hope her supporters have willingness to say, “You know what? She was not who I thought her to be, and I need to reconsider what my vote is.” It may still be you choose McCain, and that’s fine. But you have to question his choice of VP whether it goes well or not. George Will and David Brooks (both respected columnist who happen to be conservative and I’d have no problem moderating) certainly do.

Posted by: KWnFX | October 1, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

revhillbilly, she has a financial stake in Obama winning because her book will sell better. So debate away.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Sorry our candidate isn’t ready so we have to come up with some sort of excuse. AGAIN!

Posted by: Republican Joke | October 1, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Frankie from Miami FL, maybe because they just learned about her book?

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

I think Mc Same Palin would be more comfortable with a non partizan like Rush or Sean Hannerty

Posted by: Phil | October 1, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Time for the GOP to take their thumbs out of their mouths and quit with their fake outrage.
I have 4 year old grandchildren who are more mature and more reasonable.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 1, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

obama campaign should say “while we have no doubts about gwen’s impartiality, we will respectfully ask her to step down, knowing that the mccain-palin campaign has voiced concerns about her. we will work with the mccain-palin campaign to find a moderator with whom they feel more comfortable.”
palin has been cramming for gwen and will be thrown off her game. biden will be fine with whoever. the obama campaign will continue to gain traction as fair, calm, post-partisan, and adult in the face of mccain’s childish, whining, finger-pointing tantrums.

Posted by: dostoy | October 1, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

McCain sows doubts about Ifill? That’s funny, McCain. The American middle class has some doubts about you, McCain. Why do you help companies relocate to China and steal our jobs? Why did you help Bush start an unnecessary war that has killed 4,733 of America’s young people, McCain? Their blood will taint your soul until the day your rotten corpse starts to rot in hell.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

According to some political observers in Alaska, this pattern — exploiting “old-boy” mentors and then turning against them for her own advantage — defines Sarah Palin’s rise to power. Again and again, Palin has charmed powerful political patrons, and then rejected them when it suited her purposes. She has crafted a public image as a clean politics reformer, but in truth, she has only blown the whistle on political corruption when it was expedient for her to do so. Above all, Palin is a dynamo of ambition, shrewdly maneuvering her way through the notoriously compromised world of Alaska politics, making and breaking alliances along the way.
“When Palin takes credit for knocking off the old-boy network in Alaska, it drives me crazy,” said Andrew Halcro, an Anchorage businessman and radio talk show host who ran against her in the 2006 GOP primary race for governor. “Sarah certainly availed herself of that network whenever it was expedient.”

Posted by: Elizabeth Gilmore | October 1, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Speaking as a foreigner observing this soap-opera from afar, I think that if Ms. Ifill were really trying to help Obama, she would step down now.
If McCain and Palin really had reason to suppose that Ifill would be a biased moderator, and that this would be detrimental to Palin, they would be calling for her to step down. As it is, they know that enough has been said to ensure that supporters of Palin will perceive Ifill to be moderated, and use that to deflect any criticism of Palin. When the moderator starts to become a distraction from the candidates, it is bad. If Ifill makes a graceful voluntary withdrawal, she will deprive Palin of an alibi.
There is a paradox here. If Ifill moderates the debate, she will be accused, probably falsely, of helping Obama. If she declines to moderate, she will actually be helping Obama.

Posted by: Ben Murphy | October 1, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

“The idea that Obama could be elected is one of the most terrifying things imaginable. A true Christian would never vote for him – they would see him for what he is, which is Muslim. You know, one of the ones planning to take over the US “from the inside” and now with the American voters help no less.”
Wow, do you read the bible much kportrn? Are you truly a Christian yourself? Cause thats is the biggest pile of crap spewed straight from the so-called “conservative” blogs that I’ve ever read. Please do yourself and God a favor and educate yourself regarding Sen. Obama. You’ll looks less like a fool and not embaress God with your ignorant comments.
This is copied from factcheck.org (a non-partisan orginaztion)
“Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam. But rumors about his religion intended to frighten some voters persist, and they mostly return to one point of fact: his name. “Barack” is the candidate’s Kenyan father’s name; Obama’s middle name, “Hussein,” is his grandfather’s name. Obama has described his father as atheist or agnostic. His Kansan mom, whose grandparents were devout Protestants, lived a secular life. Obama’s only personal contact with Islam came as a boy when he moved to Jakarta, Indonesia, with a stepfather who mixed his Islam with Hindu and Animist traditions. In five years there, Obama attended a Roman Catholic school, then a public elementary school, where he sat through a class each week of religious studies. As an adult, Obama turned to Christianity in the late ’80s in Chicago, at Trinity United Church of Christ, where he was baptized, married‹and baptized his kids. As a new U.S. senator, Obama took his oath on the family Bible.”

Posted by: McSameSucks | October 1, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Gwen, like all reporters on PBS is a socialist. Her questions will be leading with premises that Palin cannot agree with, therefore making them hard for her to answer.

Posted by: mike | October 1, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Alex, if Clarence Thomas were running he would be lucky if he got 10% of the Black vote, so your point is moot. Blacks are predominantly Democrat so why wouldn’t they vote for a Democrat…sheesh.

Posted by: Liz | October 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Phil, actually Sean or Rush would be far more impartial than any Liberal. You see they have moral values. Please tell me what the moral values are of the Secular Left. You can’t because it’s “whatever you feel like.” It’s called Moral Relativism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism
It’s one of the tenets of Progressivism which is another name for the Secular Left.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Tax returns?
Why are we not seeing Governor Palin’s tax returns?
What is she hiding?

Posted by: Clayton | October 1, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

American taxpayers have doubts about McCain. His campaign is run by a paid lobbyist for Freddie Mac. How much of the bailout money went to the clients of Rick Davis, McCain? Your money-grubbing lobbyist-campaign staff is ripping off the middle class and laugh at loud at the taxes we’ll be paying for the next 20 years. You are a miserable excuse for a leader.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

It’s pretty obvious the GOP is just running scared. They are frightened of a simple Palin-Biden debate.
Because of their fear and cowardice, they are attacking the moderator, a professional with many years doing this sort of thing.
The GOP’s cowardice is only matched by their hatred. They need a new target for their rage every week, just to let off steam. If it wasn’t Ifill, it would be Pelosi or the New York Times or if all else fails the local PTA. I suspect that if Limbaugh were to go off the air for a few months, not a few listeners would spontaneously explode from the pent-up steam pressure.

Posted by: Brian | October 1, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

American patriots have doubts about McCain. His support for Bush-Gonzales-Cheney-Abramoff-Scooter Libby is disgusting. Ship our jobs to China, McCain? Try reading the Constitution, McCain. You and your sleazy campaign are despicable.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

I am not sure if Obama is a Muslim or not, but I do know he is an empty suit who is only in the position he is because he is black. A white guy with Obamas slim credentials wouldn’t even have been elected senator in the first place.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Gwen Ifill and any other anchor in the tank for Obama or who benefits in anyway from either candidate should not be considered as a moderator in the debates. If Rush Limbaugh were moderating the debates the liberals would be screaming in outrage.

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

George Stephanopoulos moderated the Clinton/Obama debate. George was Bill Clinton’s press secretary. Obama supporters complained but Obama did not.

Posted by: Liz | October 1, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

Why isn’t the press raking McCain over the coals over his being a part of the Keating 5 scandal? Why isn’t the press raking McCain/ “Mr.Straight Shooter” over the coals about the numerous times that he cheated on his first wife before and after Viet Nam including with current wife Cindy? How’s that for character? If Obama had that kind of trash in his background, there would be constant reminders on the first page of the news. The press was all over Obama about what Rev. Wright, who is not running for President, said. What about what McCain, who is running for President,DID!!! The man lied to his family and now America. He doesn’t deserve to be President.

Posted by: my2cents | October 1, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

The unnecessary war in Iraq could go on for another 100 years. McCain could start a war in Iran and a new war with Russia. McCain’s a war monger. America does not have enough young people to staff all of the armies that will be needed to fight all of the wars that McCain wants to fight.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

I dislike Crybabys. Let the debate go forward. The McCain camp could have something a long time ago.
==================
Does he want to suspend the debate until after the election?

Posted by: jethromayham | October 1, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Who picked this woman who is in bed with Obama to do this debate? Obama himself?
The media is getting so bad one might as well move to Russia. Oil and gas are cheap there too and if we have to take propaganda from the American media, why not Russia? This is no longer a democracy as a result of the national news and newspapers….they brainwash

Posted by: concerneramerican | October 1, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Gwen Awful should never have accepted as moderator when she knew she had this book deal and will benefit if Obama is elected.
Where’s Rush or Hannity? I’m sure they are available tomorrow night.

Posted by: Proudlyconservative | October 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Tom Brokaw is NBC’s liaison to McCain and he is moderating the next Obama/McCain debate and we don’t hear Obama complaining.

Posted by: Liz | October 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Steve from Danville…you mean the unnecessary war that Joe Biden voted FOR? THAT WAR?

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

If McCain gets elected you will see the reinstatement of the draft. America will have to draft our young people to fight McCain’s war in Iran, McCain’s war with Russia, McCain’s war with Iraq, McCain’s war on our democracy. Got kids? Got grandkids? Got WAR?

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

All I care about Obama is that he’s as far left as you can get in America and the Left is totally wrong about where this country should go. You can only have freedom, tyranny or something in between. The Founding Fathers found the perfect balance between anarchy and tyranny. ALL of our problems today can be traced to deviating to the left of that balance they found.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

I think that Giuliani is on point when he says that if this situation were turned around and the moderator had written a book called “The Age of McCain” there would be many objections. However, considering that many are projecting that Palin’s performance will be a repeat of her recent interviews, this works in her favor—the McCain campaign can fall back on its contention that the liberal media is out to get her.

Posted by: lily78 | October 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

First, the Republican already approved the debate moderator. Second, how do you know its a pro-Obama book. Third, Fox News, which is owned by Australian Rupert Murdock, is as biased a source for anything as there is.

Posted by: emjade | October 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Steve..good. It is about time you cowardly liberals do something for America.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

You want to talk about moral character, lets talk about Obama’s opposition to the Born Alive Infant Protection Act that even liberal Hillary Clinton supported. The bill extended legal protection to babies that survived a botched abortion. Obama favored letting the babies die due to neglect. What an animal that man is. He is truly sick!

Posted by: Charles | October 1, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

McCain is a war monger. That is clear. Watch the video of McCain… “there will be more wars.. people will die.” and if you’re not scared to death that this little man would be the one with his shaky hand on the little red button then you got ice for blood. He’s out of touch with those Americans that would like to live with peace and prosperity. Got WAR?

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

War is good. It weeds out the weak.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

dculling, are you saying seculars are not moral? What a joke. See definition below…nothing in the definition about Democrat or Republican, left or rigth, Christian or non-Christian. Opinions like the one you just gave are what is wrong with our country.
From the Dictionary….—Synonyms 5. upright, honest, straightforward, open, virtuous, honorable. 11. integrity, standards, morality. Morals, ethics refer to rules and standards of conduct and practice. Morals refers to generally accepted customs of conduct and right living in a society, and to the individual’s practice in relation to these: the morals of our civilization. Ethics now implies high standards of honest and honorable dealing, and of methods used, esp. in the professions or in business: ethics of the medical profession.

Posted by: Liz | October 1, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

emjade, it doesn’t matter if her book is pro Obama or not, only that it will make her more money if he wins.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

“A true Christian would never vote for him.”
This is nonsense. I’m a “true Christian” voting for Senator Obama. Don’t you realize that it is impossible for a Muslim to “pose” as a Christian. The Koran specifically forbids it. He would be condemned for even lying about his faith.
Muslims do not hate Christians. I lived in countries that were primarily muslim for over thirty years. My Muslim friends respected my religion- as I did theirs. They were not terrorists nor did they approve of terrorists. The people who use violence for political expediency are neither Christian or Muslim.
That said, there is no reason for a “true Christian” not to vote for any good candidate who happens to be a Muslim.
That would be very un Christian. I think the person who made that comment is not a “true Christian.” Jesus did not say to hate others who are not like ourselves.

Posted by: Lucas Gilmore | October 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Obama kills babies. McCain kills terrorists.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Peace loving Americans have doubts about McCain. He not completely sane. He picked Palin as his back-up? It’s bad enough that McCain’s itchy trigger finger will be within 2 miles of the little red button… but Palin? McCain is 72 years old and headed for dementia. Ask your 72-year old uncle or grandfather or your dad. He’s too shaky to be near the black box that starts World War III. Got WAR ?

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

I see the lipstick on a pig line was already used. Ifill must withdraw or this is a total farce. Obama isn’t qualified to be a Secret Service agent for President much less for President. Biden is an arrogant Bob Republican and even dumber.
this is war not charm school and it is time for all the attack dogs to start. Wright, Ayers, Rezco, etc. They must be back on the table.

Posted by: thegr8 1 | October 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

What about having Rush do the next debate? fair is fair

Posted by: I hate bias media | October 1, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

mike – war is bad for young people and the parents who love their young people. Ask a parent of one of the 4,733 Americans who have died in the unnecessary war in Iraq.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

Steve. I served in the Marines when John Kerry first turned against American troops. My son, also a Marine was in Iraq when John Kerry and Barak Obama voted against sending him the supplies he needed to survive.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Obama is still a mystery. Why doesn’t he give the voters a Real Biography instead of those part fiction books. There is no information other than coming from him. Who knew him? The Keating 5 is a “dead issue. Namecalling should is beneath this forum. We all don’t have to agree. Each opinion is as valuable as the next.

Posted by: lisabeth | October 1, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

It’s interesting to hear a foreigner, Ben Murphy, hit the nail on the head although I’m not surprised.
I’d follow your scenario and add that today’s whinning outrage was calculated in advance and only voiced at the last minute since they can whine but there isn’t time to really reveal just how silly the whine is.
The GOP is predictable and increasingly ridiculous!

Posted by: julieah | October 1, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Lucas Gilmore “Muslims don’t hate Christians”
You ever hear of 9/11???????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by: I hate bias media | October 1, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

mike – you speak with forked tongue. To fix forked tongue take an Alaskan bear trap to Larry Craig’s cabin in Idaho. Pull down your pants and bend over. Then ask Larry Craig to untrap the bear.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Liz, what I said is that Secular Progressives, the basis of modern Liberalism, has Moral Relativism as one of it’s primary tenets.
I’ll take a Moral Objectivist, Realist or even Absolutist over a hundred Relativists any day; at least I know where they stand.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Steve..why do liberals always fall back on homosexual references when losing an argument?

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

kportrn, a real Christian would never listen to you because your unadulterated lies. Try to be truthful. It’s the right thing to do.

Posted by: KWnFX | October 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

“War is good. It weeds out the weak.”
totally insane. War kills women, children, and all the young men who are talked into fighting the war.
American lost over 50,000 good men and women in the insane war in Viet-Nam while killing 2,000,000 Vietnamese.
We are not a stronger nation for doing so- nor did we “weed out the weak.”
We have destroyed the cities, farms, roads, hospitals, and schools in Iraq, killed 300,000 people, created over a million refugees, and had over 4,000 deaths and 30,000 casualties of our own in that ill conceived conflict.
We are weakened in our economy and in the eyes of the rest of the world.
Time to end the madness.Time to stop spending two billion dollars a week and bring our troops home. The “surge” did not bring political reconcialiation to that poor country. They want us out of their lives.

Posted by: Lucas Gilmore | October 1, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

If McCain is elected you won’t need to worry about Marines and ammunition and guns or jets. When McCain starts World War III you’ll need a shovel to clean the nuclear ash off your front lawn. Buy a dozen gas masks the day McCain is elected. Got WAR?

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

- in law, this would create a mistrial.
Does McCain even have advisors? The Presidential weapon Obama and his regime and his worshiping media bodyguards would have been all over this one if the shoe were on the other foot.
BIAS ACTIVELY SERVING OBAMA’S CAUSE: THIS IS DISGUSTING TO SAY THE LEAST.
An Obama lover, Illwill’s impartiality, her biases – and her conflict of interest – are very clear… “My dictionary defines ‘moderator’ as the ‘nonpartisan officer of a town meeting.’ She’s so far in the tank for the Democrat presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running out.” Besides her book she is pushing with this, she also wrote a “fawning cover story” about Barack and Michelle Obama for Essence magazine.

Posted by: Lisa | October 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Steve from Danville–Completely stupid statement.. McCain is not Bush. He felt betrayed right along with the other Congress members when they found out there were no WMD’s in Iraq. He spoke out about it and focused on winning the war and getting our military back home. He knows first hand that war is not pretty and is even opposed to torture of prisoners.

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

TO LIZ:
Tom Brokaw is not in bed with McCann…this women not only is in bed with Obama but she’s writing a glowing book about him and will make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Posted by: I hate bias media | October 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Republican Christians for Obama!
What is your kick with Keating
Investigators checked all involved very very very well. Mc Cain was cleared, and those guilty were charged and prosecuted.
Why are you bashing the investigators and prosecutors who brought charges?
Which investigator or prosecutor do you think was corrupt??????…..just curious.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

“Republican Christians for Obama?”
Now there is a true oxymoron.
Kind of like “military intelligence.”
Whatever you do, don’t let anyone see you on your prayer mat five times a day bowing towards Mecca.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Swift Boat Liar from Hell – I don’t believe one thing you say. Not one. McCain is a twisted shadow of his former self. Got honor? Not anymore. Got sleazy ads? By the bucket full. Got Freddie Mac lobbyists ripping off the American Taxpayers? Yeah, he’s the campaign manager for John McCain.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

McCain is wrong on torture. Torture works, or it would not have been used for so many centuries.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

S Adams, your argument makes perfect sense . . . I suppose if David Duke was a civil rights leader, Martin Luther King would be a centrist as well.

Posted by: KWnFX | October 1, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Frankie from Miami FL, maybe because they just learned about her book?
Posted by: dculling
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Wasnt the book known about 2 weeks before her selection?! Even if they found out afterwards, Dont u think it would have been responsible to do a little homework on the Moderater?! Theres ABSOLUTELY No EXCUSE for the McCain campaign to bring up their concern of Ifill the DAY before the debate. This looks more like an excuse and a tactic by the McCain campaign. 1 DAY BEFORE CMON. Even if they didnt know, Still IRRESPONSIBLE.

Posted by: Frankie from Miami FL | October 1, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Obama. Empty suit. No accomplishments. Only reason he is democrats selection is that he is black. Any white guy with Obamas lack of accomplishments would not be considered for dog catcher.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Swift Boat Liar from Idaho – you have no honor, no credibility. You couldn’t carry John Kerry’s jock strap.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Lucas Gilmore, freedom isn’t free. Iraq now has something is has never had before; freedom. You are fortunate to live in this country where you can take your for granted.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

While most apparently are assuming that Ifill’s book will be “pro-Obama”, dare I say that it is just that: an assumption. We don’t know that the book will be “pro-Obama” no more than we know whether it will be ‘anti-Colin Powell’. While I realize that Ifill has made pro-Obama statements on TV, is this really reason enough to assume, due to her race, that her book is going to be simply “pro-Obama”? Many (most) *Republican* leaders have said “pro-Obama” statements on TV and we aren’t making assumptions about which side of the game they are on. So simply because Ifill is black, this book that isn’t actually about Obama but about blacks in politics in the 21st century, suddenly it becomes all about Obama– and of course that means “pro-Obama.” Ifill is skilled journalist with true respect on both sides of the aisle. It is part & parcel in her profession to be objective and neutral, she does it well and would hardly be as successful as she is without those tested skills. Besides, it’s not like she works for NBC (read: Maddow, Olberman — neither of those two will ever be invited to moderate a debate). I have complete faith that she will grill Biden with the same tenacity as Palin and spare neither with her intelligent brand of probing. I find it almost entertaining that the conservatives are even wasting their thoughts on this concern — it seems to me to be a figment of their imagination, considering they don’t really know how many pages will be devoted to Obama vs. Powell, nor what position she will take and points she is intending to make — but simply because she is black the book is certainly already a “pro-Obama” book. Of course, we shouldn’t be surprised that the McCain/Palin camp would make such simplistic conclusions. Ifill is a very thoughtful lady, and we have no reason to think that the subject matter for her future book will even have any direct relevance and overlapping with the subject matter for the vice-presidential debates. Obviously though, some people are still caught in yesterday’s way of thinking when it comes to race and race relations. How limiting is that?

Posted by: ericasky | October 1, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Swift Boat Liar from Larry Craig’s cabin in Idaho – if John McCain gets elected you’ll need a cave 30 feet deep to hide from the nuclear fallout. Start digging your cave the day he gets elected. Got NUKES?

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Actually, this could be a bit of nostalgia if Lord Obama actually manages to worm his way into the White House.
Remember the Carter years?
Double digit inflation.
Double digit interest.
High unemployment.
Gas lines–who cares about price when there is no gasoline to buy.
Military failures.
U.S. citizens hostage in the Middle East.
Yeah, the Carter years will rear up again in Hussein resides in the White House.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

A recent poll of democrats indicated that over 25% of them would not vote for Obama because he is black. When the curtain is closed, democrats will vote overwhelmingly against Obama, but will tell the exit pollsters that they voted for Obama. Then the real count will come in, and democrats will cry foul…again. History always repeats itself. Democrats have always been losers, and the will be losers again.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Lucas Gilmore “Muslims don’t hate Christians”
You ever hear of 9/11???????????????????????????????????????????????????”
Oh my God help Christianity if all Christians are judged on the actions of our very own extemists who blow up abortion doctor’s clinics, bash gay people to death, picket slain Iraq soldiers burials, etc…You dont think that happens? Try looking up the Westboro Baptist Church. Really scarey stuff.
The fact is, your average Muslim does NOT hate christians, just as your average Christian does NOT hate muslims. All religeous group have extremist, and I am no more proud of our christian extremist than Muslins are of thiers. Please, please, please stop your hypocrasy now.
Read the Bible and Love thy Neighbor.

Posted by: McSameSucks | October 1, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Torture is watching the Republican politicians trying to explain why they like to ship our jobs to China… the free market seems to work for their corporate lobbyists and Walmart. It ain’t working for the middle class in this country. McCain = China first.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Mike, I suppose you prefer the current white guy’s accomplishments that currently sits in the White House, huh? You’re right. There is no room for sound judgment in government today. Thank you for pointing that out to me. I’m enlightened!

Posted by: KWnFX | October 1, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

The woman is in the tank for Obama and anybody that thinks she will be objective and fair is either hopelessly naive or blatantly stupid.

Posted by: rplat | October 1, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Jobs are moving overseas for two reasons. First, high taxes on corporate profits, second, high energy costs due to democrats blocking the use of our own resources.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Mike,
Hate to break it to you, but any country that invades, bombs and occupies an innocent nation has committed terrorism and more.
BTW ~ so many forget…. congress only voted to support military action after being lied to. Selective memory!

Posted by: julieah | October 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Torture is watching McCain try to explain away 26 years of lobbying for de-regulation, and then try to repaint himself as a Reformer. You’re no Rembrandt, McCain.. just a twisted little man with a complex. Got war?

Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

KW…some of you think it couldn’t be worse. Elect a Democrat and watch.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Well, we have seen the Democrats nominate some real winners:
McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Obama (or whatever his name is).
Should be interesting to watch the wailing masses of Democrats if the Chicago con-man goes to the White House.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Julieah…wow…parents can’t spell?
Oh, so Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton and Al Gore and Madeline not-so-Bright all were liars?

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

“Lets put this Ifil issue in perspective, please.”
Okay, here it is then…
1) 30+ days from election and Obama is rising in national and state polls.
2) The more people listen to Sarah Palin, the more they wince, shake their head, and say “what did she say?”
Nuff said…

Posted by: FranklyMyDear | October 1, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Steve from Danville,
I read your comment about Mc Cain starting WWIII.
I think you are a little late.
The spread of Islam and it’s violent methods was well in place under Clinton when World trade center took the first attack.Beheadings in the Phillipines of time share travelers , and terror in so many Countires in that year would date the real start of WWIII.
Is your point that a guy named Hussein could surrender and gain us some pity?
Are you insinuating that if we stand up to keep American the Christian Nation founding fathers set up, that we will be nuked by the Middle East?
I cannot gather from your war and devastation comment, why you have made the statement.
Are you afraid that Palin will rally for the Republicans, even with a biased moderator, so you are tither and yon with irrational comments?

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Face it. If Obama is not up 15 points, he has no chance because 25% of democrats will not vote for a black guy. Just a fact.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Typical Republican whining about the press. Grow the hell up and shut the hell up and quit complaining.

Posted by: Rex | October 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

McCain’s campaign issued an ad saying he’d won the first debate before it even happened. Then they claimed he’d led the successful effort to pass the bailout bill in the House of Representatives, before they even voted. Now they claim that Gwen Ifill’s moderating is biased before that’s happened too. So far their ability to predict isn’t encouraging, maybe they need to hire a new seer.

Posted by: Dan | October 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Mike,
Jobs move overseas because of cheap labor (why pay $20/hr. when you can pay $2/hr. for the same job and efficiency). Second, high energy costs is strictly supply and demand. Amazing how gas prices dropped when people cut back using it. Oh yeah, the falling dollar didn’t help matters, either. I never thought the Canadian dollar would be worth as much as the US dollar (was only 70% of it not too long ago).
Mike, consider blowing the dust off your Economics book, will ya?

Posted by: KWnFX | October 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

“Read the Bible and Love thy Neighbor.”
LOL…now THAT’S an oxymoron!

Posted by: Joel Osteen | October 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Yep,
I have to agree with Mike on this one.
When the curtains on the voting booth close, over 95% of blacks will vote for Obama and a similar majority of whites will vote against him.
Especially working class whites and seniors.
Thank God for the secret ballot.
And, I don’t mean Allah.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

“Lucas Gilmore “Muslims don’t hate Christians”
You ever hear of 9/11?”
I was in New York City when 911 occurred. Did you ever “hear” about the Oklahoma City bombing that was done by a supposed born again Christian?
The people who were responsible for 911 did not do it because we are Christian. They did it because they perceive our country to be responsible for the injustices done to their people in the Middle East. They would just as soon kill other muslims who disagree with their tactics. They are killers.
German Christians killed thousands of French and English Christians. They didn’t do it because of their religion but because of their hatred of others that was drummed up by Hitler.
The so called “muslims” who perpetrated 911 are killers and murderers- and the Koran expressly teaches against that sort of violence.
Muslims are not our enemies. If they were, the countries that we deal with peacefully who are Muslim would not be our friends.
I have lived in many countries where Muslims and Christians get along fine. You don’t kill someone because you have a different religion- no legitimate faith has ever taught that.
Stop the hate. Jesus did not hate anyone.

Posted by: Lucas Gilmore | October 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Steve from Danville–War will be at our backdoor with Obama in office. He is seen as weak. He is the opening the terrorist have been waiting for. Say what you want about Bush being a warmonger, but at least he has kept us safe. We haven’t had another attack on our dirt since 9/11.
McCain is seen as experienced, and tough but he has shown that he can be a negotiator and uniter as well.
Obama has shown none of these qualities. He can’t even negotiate and unite with members of Congress. He has never voted across the aisle as McCain has.

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

“Stop the hate. Jesus did not hate anyone.”
That’s because Jesus never met a Republican.

Posted by: Barry Goldwater | October 1, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

KW…yes..it is supply and demand, but you lack of knowledge about the cost of transferring $759B of our capital to foreign countries for PRODUCTS WE COULD BUY HERE have a HUGE impact on our balance of trade, ergo, cost of finance and capital.
You are stuck on econ-101, and it is well past that.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

this is merely an attempt for the republicans to have a ‘fall guy’ (or girl as the case may be) for when Palin falls flat on her completely-unworthy-to-be-VPresident face!

Posted by: earthisnotflat | October 1, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

I believe that it will be fair. I thought Jim Leher would be biased but he wasn’t. He asked the tough questions and held both to the same standard.
If she doesn’t it will kill journalistic integrity for the MSM.
Have a nice day!!!

Posted by: BullDog19 | October 1, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

hah!
They don’t want a Black woman interviewing their white woman.
(Guess which one will appear smarter?)
It is flat out GOP racism. Just disturbing the depths they have sunk to..

Posted by: andyd | October 1, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

A change of Govbachov brought Soviet Union to collapses. The change label of Obama may bring US superpower to end. Wait and see

Posted by: Truc Nguyen | October 1, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Well I suppose we can take this as a sign the McCain camp is NOT as they claim confident about Governor Palin’s ability to do well tomorrow. They only use this type of tactic when they want a distraction.
As to impartiality, well Cambpell Brown is married to a GOP strategist, but it has not stopped her from going after McCain, so I suppose we can also conclude that merely because Ms Ifill has a book that has a section on Obama (which may or may not be positive, no one knows since they have not read it) it does not mean she can not ask equally tough questions of Biden and Palin.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 1, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

What is Sarah Palin hiding?
Where are her tax returns?
Concerned people want to know. We don’t want to be told that a moose ate them.

Posted by: John McCain | October 1, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Oh great, the House has announced they have enough votes to pass the bailout bill.
Welcome to United Socialist of America.

Posted by: Proudlyconservative | October 1, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

andyd…if 95% of Blacks polled said they were going to vote for Obama, where do you think Gwen sits? I mean, just because she is banking on book sales, millions if he wins..nothing if he loses. Clearly a conflict of interest.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Crying about the moderator days before the debate when she started writing the book LAST YEAR and was appointed moderator weeks ago makes NO sense. PERIOD.
If you can’t see that the McSame camp is trying to prepare a way out when it is revieled tomorrow night that Palin doesnt know the issues or she makes more statements that McSame has to retract, then maybe it is YOU that is naive and stupid rplat.

Posted by: McSameSucks | October 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Honeslty folks, how can you vote for Sarah Palin when she almost shot me in the a$$?

Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Obama is a firm believer in the theory of: cheat, lie, cheat lie, until you get it right. The big question: is Ifill the cheat or the lie?
Liberals, put them in congress and watch the country go to he!!.
McCain/Palin – real Americans !!!

Posted by: Art in Dayton | October 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

As I recall, CNN was one of the sponsors of the first McCain and Obama debate.
Seems to me that CNN awarded the win to John McCain.
Yep, CNN gave John McCain a B+ and they gave Obama a B.
Seems CNN thought Obama was able to connect McCain with Bush on the economy.
But McCain was able to pound Obama on ability to lead the military and the nation.
PBS has been decidedly pro-Obama if anyone hadn’t noticed.
So why would anyone think that the Ifill woman would be anything less than biased in her handling of the debate?

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Good point, Mike. We actually agree on something! But when you consume more energy than you can supply, what do you do? The need to find alternative energy is critical because we can drill baby all we want, but our dependency is not going anywhere unless we exploit resources that are in greater abundance here than over there. Do we really want to mess with eco system because we haven’t learned to cut back consumption?
Yes, it’s a mess, Mike. Man I hope we can get through it!

Posted by: KWnFX | October 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

The McCain camp got all they wanted out of having Ifill moderate this debate. They also lowered the bar with 5 minute statements with no rebuttle. The whole debate is slated to favor Palin already. What more do they want?

Posted by: William | October 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Wow, Mike,
Ouch, 9not really). Like I said, typical GOP…. trash people, have attitudes like war is good, then toss insults that have nothing to do with anything. Weak Mike.
I prefer sanity to perfect typing skills!
sure hope I never meet you nice Christians. Bye, now I really mean it since the idiots like Mike are so rational, yeah right.

Posted by: julieah | October 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

andyd–stupidest statement of the night. McCain AGREED to Ifill as moderator until they found out about the book about Obama. If Obama wins the election she stands to get a huge financial windfall from the sale of her book.
If he loses her book will go straight to bargain basement bookstores.

Posted by: Proudlyconservative | October 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Frankie from Miami FL, I don’t know when they learned about the book. I also don’t know how busy they are and how fast they can get around to things. I don’t expect my leaders to be perfect.
As a Deist for most of my life, I’ve observed there appears to be profound psychological benefits to believing their exists a more directly involved higher power. Most Christian families I’ve known tend to be far more successful and happier then the Secular ones I’ve known.
Apparently there is a innate need in humans to believe in a higher power and rewards in ones life for doing so.
Unfortunately the Secular Left appears to fulfill that need with their political leaders. It is often joked about Obama being the Messiah to the left, but there is some truth to that joke.
I have been reconsidering my Deist beliefs as of late.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

S Adams,
Please provide some proof for your claim that Obama is seen as weak. Opinions expressed by conservative talking heads, by the way, do not consistitute proof.
The fact is, most of the world’s leaders PREFER Obama and want him to be elected. He has a much better chance of shoring up our position in the world than McCain, and no one sees him as weak, particularly since, when the election is over, he will have taken out two Washington DC heavyweights to become President.

Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | October 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Its like a football team crying about the referees BEFORE the game.. Who does this crap??

Posted by: Chad Butler | October 1, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

This has been going on since the primaries. Can we just have a debate and stop bickering about every little thing? Most people know who they are voting for and it’s basically just entertainment at this point. I don’t think she is going to show bias in front of millions of viewers. BTW, I am voting for McCain so it doesn’t matter how Palin performs.

Posted by: tig | October 1, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Honeslty folks, how can you vote for Sarah Palin when she almost shot me in the a$$?
Posted by: Bullwinkle | Oct 1, 2008 9:20:40 PM
——————————-
She won’t miss next time…
McCain/Palin/PUMA

Posted by: Bingo | October 1, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Kw…we can not run our economic engine and keep our standard of living trying to grow corn as some of you have been led to believe. We need to use ALL of the resources available to us, and yes, conservation needs to be part of it.
Face it. Our economic enemies are drilling for oil off of their coasts, they are using nuclear power, they are using coal and they are using whatever it takes to keep their economies going.
Americas decision to stop drilling and nuclear power has put us behind the 8-ball because the other technologies are DECADES away…despite what the talking heads tell you. We HAVE to use fossil fuels for at least another 50 years before the new technologies are cost competitive to fossil fuels.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Bulldog19–journalistic integrity and the MSM. That is an oxymoron.

Posted by: Proudlyconservative | October 1, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

andyd, and I suppose if Obama is elected and we speak out publicly against his policies it will be a hate crime, right?

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

I think we are missing another classic trick of the right – pointing out that Ifill is “biased” is a code for black. She’s black therefore she must support the black candidate. Its another divisive dirty trick. and it makes me ill.
She is writing a book about black politicians. Whether Oama wins or not, his political career has been a history making exercise. Is she supposed to write a book about black politicans and not mention him????
She does not stand to make any additional money if Obama wins the election. Think about this logically, dont fall for smokescreens. The woman has spent her entire career in journalism. She was chosen and approved by the McCain campaign. Every campaign has a say in adopting the moderator. So now anytime Palin cant answer a question the Republicans will say its due to bias. The amount of shifting and bobbing here would be comical if the stakes werent so very high. Sarah should be a woman about it, show up and do her best. Stop hiding and come out and show the world what you have to offer.

Posted by: dp | October 1, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

It is funny – McCain is ok with it but not ok with it! If he really believed that is unfair it is very simple – he needs to protest and get her replaced with Lehrer rather than whine. This guy does the same thing every where – once he is honorable and then he is not. Once it is country first, then it is winning election first. He says he will not debate until a plan passes, but then debates anyway. Where are his principles?

Posted by: jonathan | October 1, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

hah!
They don’t want a Black woman interviewing their white woman.
(Guess which one will appear smarter?)
It is flat out GOP racism. Just disturbing the depths they have sunk to..
Posted by: andyd
Are you aware that one of Mc Cain’s teenaged daughters, adopted as an infant, is balck?
Race and gender is over for Repulicans and has been for years.
Clarence Thomas
Condi Rice
Colin Powell
are the three most recognized names that come to mind.
Get your head leveled….your listing badly.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Why wasn’t Ifill’s quote to AP today where she stated that she did NOT tell the Commission of Presidential Debates of her forthcoming book on race and politics in the “age of Obaama”included in this ABC news report???? Smooth, predictable move by one and all and even Gwen got her own gotcha moment in pre debate…..

Posted by: KGreene | October 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Dee Dee Lynn, Obama is weak because he is a typical Liberal Moral Relativist. You can’t believe a thing he says because it will change depending on who is is talking to. Look up all the positions he has changed, surely you can see this.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Sean Hanity will be the moderator for the next debate with Osama and Senator McCain.
Fair Enough!

Posted by: martha S. | October 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

dp…no, I have no problem that Gwen is black, I have a problem that she is a socialist and in the bag for Obama.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

I am LOVING watching the republican’t party squirm and writh this election.
Don’t worry you bunch of racist scum-bags. The White house can stay white….on the outside.

Posted by: Republican't Party is DEAD | October 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

woman citizen – his daughter was adopted from India. This was the result of a trip Cindy made overseas (one of many) to bring relief.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

This is totally a conflict of interest. If Obama loses the election then Gwen Ifills book sales will go down. She has much to gain by Biden winning this debate. I wouldn’t be surprised if Biden has been slipped the questions. Obama is cheating in Ohio so there ya go.

Posted by: mj | October 1, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

If Gwen Ifill starts with a question to Biden like: “Joe, How will you and Barack improve the United States leadership standing in the world when elected in November?” And then asks Palin: “Sarah, what is your favorite moose recipe?” === Then I guess the bias will truly show.
But if the questions are to both: 1) Should religion and government remain separate? 2) Should the next Supreme Court Justice uphold or overrule Roe v. Wade? 3) When should the U.S. give Iraq back to the Iraqis as a sovereign nation? 4) Should the U.S. become energy independent, and how best to accomplish this? 5) Should healthcare be available at a reasonable price to all Americans? 6) How would you address the immigration issue? 7) Should a college education be affordable for our kids? 8) How do you suggest we expand good paying jobs in the U.S.? 9) Should we finish the job in Afghanistan and catch Osama bin laden no matter where he is found? 10) Should we as America work and lead for world peace or world war?
I’m betting we’ll see professional questions…I’m hoping we see professional answers too.

Posted by: BENIGHSE | October 1, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

One of Obama’s most popular points among the young and welfare voters is the multitude of government programs that he will add.
Problem is that he has no way to pay for these many give-aways (we called it welfare when I was growing up–taking it was a shame).
First, Obama promised to pay for his enlarged government by bringing the troops home from Iraq within a year–then it was 18 months.
Then Obama said we have to send our troops to Afghanistan–no mention of the savings of bringing the troops home that were supposed to pay for his explosion of welfare programs.
Now, the same Obama supports and will vote in favor of a government bailout (corporate welfare) that will add about $850 billion to the national debt–and the numbers just keep growing.
Does anyone else see an economic problem here, or does Obama just want to keep on printing money and borrowing from the Chinese?
What I see is the same economic implosion for the United States of Obama that eventually destroyed the Soviet Union.
Either that, or the United States will become an industrial territory of China.
Change we will get–from Obama.

Posted by: No Hussein | October 1, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

The fact that she has a monetary interest in a Obama victory, as her book is due for release on inauguration day, alone should disqualify her. All you damn liberals are just waiting for a “gotcha moment”, that is why your defending Ifill. Just remember, Palin has more experience to be a Vice President than Obama has to be President.

Posted by: Big Tom | October 1, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

baz asks: So, why suddenly is it an issue???
If you selected a VP candidate who basically you’ve come to realize is not qualified, what would you do? You attack the media. You try to sow doubt about the moderator. It’s a pretty crass strategy: “Kill the messenger!”
They already knew about her book prior to agreeing to her. This is a set up claim to try to give Gov. Palin cover.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: 63tango | October 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

S Adams,
Please provide some proof for your claim that Obama is seen as weak. Opinions expressed by conservative talking heads, by the way, do not consistitute proof.
The fact is, most of the world’s leaders PREFER Obama and want him to be elected. He has a much better chance of shoring up our position in the world than McCain, and no one sees him as weak, particularly since, when the election is over, he will have taken out two Washington DC heavyweights to become President.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn
Hype The Obama Effect
is a documentary filled with just what you demand.
Get it. Get popcorn. Learn something.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

True Christians will not vote for a man who kills babies, so stop calling yourself a Christian “Republican Christians for Obama”. Also instead of talking about the Keating 5, go to something more recent, the people who made the mess we are in today. They are Franklin Raines who took millions out of Fannie or Freddie and is presently working for the big “O”. Jim Johnson took millions out of the insurance company that went belly up and dear Jamie G. took millions along with Franklin Raines. The nerve of the dems to have Dodd and Franks try to fix this when they were the ones on the banking committee and were telling everyone on the hill that both Fannie and Freddie were in great shape. These are a few of the crooks who put us in this mess. Vote for Obama and you will get what you deserve as he is a very deceiving person only interested in himself and his political career. His mentors are all marxists and I can only say if he is elected America is over as we know it. God help America as we will need it.

Posted by: margo | October 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

the book isn’t released yet. Who says the book is even flattering? Obama IS the first black presidential candidate, why can’t she write about that? What a stupid complaint.

Posted by: Matt | October 1, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Big Tom – would agree. Perhaps Gwen should pull herself from the debate since there is such a debate around it. That will show that she really is impartial.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

In the VP debate, I hope Gov. Palin will ask has-been Biden about the lawsuit against Obama in Federal Court.
*** CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083 ***
Why wont Obama produce his:
1. “vault” version (certified copy of his “original” long version)
Birth Certificate
2. A certified copy of Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Oath of Allegiance.
Biden, now is the time to talk and talk and talk…
Only Americans in our White House!!!

Posted by: let the truth be known | October 1, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

I have watched Gwen for many years – and consider her journalistic skills beyond reproach. She defines the word objective. I think McCain is showing concern over the level of intelligence and depth Gwen will bring to this debate – and the fact this may not play well with Governor Palin’s apparent inability to provide specifics.

Posted by: jburke | October 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Apparently Obama operatives have gotten hold of Ms. Ifill’s notes and are “prepping” Senator Biden. Unfortunately, Governor Palin is being set up again.

Posted by: Jet | October 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Hi Republican Christians for Obama!
Is Obama quilified and experienced? At least Palin and McCain diddn’t have “fiat the smear” website because they have nothing to hide. Wait a second, a attorney from PA filed a lawsuite that Obama used to hold dual citizenship. Only then, Obama team posted on their website saying “Obama never renewed his Kenya citizendship”. There are things they are hiding..there are rumors that he went to Pakistan in 1981 with Indonesian passport (meeting with Al Quida?). I have no problem with Obama but I just want him to come out clean. He was involved in underground gang, associated with Rezko…etc. No one is perfect, neither nor McCain. Whoever you vote, won’t make a big difference for this country.

Posted by: speakthetruth | October 1, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

There’s an M&M tray in the green room? Wow! To be one of these elitists what we normal people wouldn’t give! Even for a day! M&Ms for free while we can hardly keep body & house together.

Posted by: Katie Minrich | October 1, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

But if the questions are to both: 1) Should religion and government remain separate?DEMS–YES, EXCEPT IN BLACK CHURCHES. REPS-YES. 2) Should the next Supreme Court Justice uphold or overrule Roe v. Wade? DEMS-YES, WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO KILL KIDS. REP-A SINGLE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE DOES NOT MAKE THE CALL 3) When should the U.S. give Iraq back to the Iraqis as a sovereign nation? DEMS-AS SOON AS ALQAEDA HAS RECONSTITUTED. REP-AS SOON AS IRAQ IS STABLE AND CAN PROTECT ITSELS 4) Should the U.S. become energy independent, and how best to accomplish this? DEMOCRATS -YES, ESPECIALLY IF IT KILLS OUR ECONOMY. REP-NO, ENERGY INDEPENDENCE IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE 5) Should healthcare be available at a reasonable price to all Americans? DEMS-NO, HEALTH CARE SHOULD BE PAID FOR ALL BY THOSE WHO WORK TO THOSE WHO DON’T WORK. REP-GOVERNMENT SHOULD GET OUT OF HEALTHCARE AND THE PRICE WILL DROP 6) How would you address the immigration issue? DEMS..WE WON’T. WHERE THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE BUY OUR VOTES? REPS-BUILD A WALL, DEPORT ALL IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME, THEN SET UP A TEMPORARY WORKER PROGRAM. 7) Should a college education be affordable for our kids? DEMS-YES, EVEN THOUGH OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM IS TURNING OUR MORONS WHO CANNOT PASS COLLEGE COURCES. REPS-COLLEGE IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. 8) How do you suggest we expand good paying jobs in the U.S.? DEMS-WE DON’T WANT HIGH PAYING JOBS BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE BECOME REPUBLICANS. REP- LOWER CORPORATE TAX RATES AND OPEN UP ALL COASTS AND ANWR TO DRILLING TO GET LOWER ENERGY PRICES AND THAT WILL BRING PRODUCTION BACK TO AMERICA.9) Should we finish the job in Afghanistan and catch Osama bin laden no matter where he is found? DEMS–NO. AS LONG AS WE CAN BLAME IT ON BUSH, WE DON’T WANT HIM CAPTURED. REPS-WE MUST WORK TO KILL EVERY ONE OF THE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS THAT WE CAN, WHEREEVER WE CAN 10) Should we as America work and lead for world peace or world war? DEMS..YES, WE SHOULD DO ALL WE CAN DO TO SURRENDER TO TERRORISM. REPS-FORGET? HELL NO.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Dee Dee Lynn-No most of the world leaders are staying neutral. You are thinking of Achmadinajad, Mugabe, and Mahmoud Abbas. ALL the Radical, terrorist, tyrant groups are in support of Obama. Hezbollah, Ahmed Yousef has been praising Obama and the radical muslim school he went to as a child. Kenyan terrorist leader Raila Odinga has also praised him. These are just to name a few. Google it and tons of terrorist groups in support of Obama come up.
He is also supported by Islamic groups in U.S. who have been on the FBI watch list because they funnel money to terrorist groups and to Obama’s campaign.
On top of that, he had to find his own homegrown terrorist organizational leader in the U.S. to be good friends with.
Obama is neck deep in anti-american terrorist friends

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

HOW ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND COULD CONSIDER ABORTION NOT AS MURDER, MUST BE A DEMONCRAT!IFIL IS A NASTY PERSON ANYWAY, USING A BLIND OF BEING BLACK, WE HAVE JUST ABOUT WORN THAT OUT WITH OBAMA, HE IS HALF WHITE AND HALF BLACK, OR A HALF BREED!hE IS NOT REALLY EVEN AFRICANS AS THEY ARE VERY NICE PEOPLE!

Posted by: opagene | October 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

Wanttheelectionover-Agreed, we don’t need the controversy nor the doubts of her impartiality.

Posted by: Big Tom | October 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

http://www.236.com/news/2008/08/24/help_cindy_mccains_adopted_dau_1_8454.php
Some of the stuff Dems will throw out there is just disgusting. No wonder even Biden says Obama has bad judgement.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

CORRECTION “COURSES”

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

“True Christians will not vote for a man who kills babies” …so true. Yet “christians” voted for Bush for a second term. How do you reconcile that? Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died ONLY because bush sent in the soldiers and bombs to kill them. They didnt’ threaten us, they were of no danger, yet thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians including thousands of children and babies were killed. So why did you “christians” vote for Bush? Do you think God is happy with waging war on a group of innocent people who did NOTHING wrong? Christ said to love thy enemy, Christ said if you get struck in one cheek, turn the other to them as well. Yet we killed thousands and you supported teh man who did. Ihave news for you “christian”, YOU did not act like a Christian. Here’s another bit of news, Christ NEVER saidto force girls to bring babies to term. NEVER. NEVER did he tell you, or me orANYONE , not even a pregnant girl, that He would prefer that she bring the pregnancy to term. NEVER. So again, this obsession of yours to force girls to bring pregnancies to term, that is YOUR idea, not Christ’s. Christ’s advice to us what to work on our OWN sins, not to get involved in punishing or pushing ourselves on others. IT is YOU who is NOT acting like a Christian!

Posted by: Jess | October 1, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

speakthe truth–not only does Obama have an Indonesian passport, but Indonesia considers him a citizen. The problem with that is, they do not allow dual-citizenship. Indonesia doesn’t consider Obama a U.S. citizen.

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

woman citizen – and that really tells the story considering how often Biden has gone too far and stuck his own foot in his mouth.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

I would rather vote for Gov. Palin, than Obama, Biden or McCain. She is the only true executive leader, great accomplishments and had no part of the $700 billion crap sandwich. For the Obama followers that a 700 followed by nine zeros.

Posted by: abe | October 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

If 95% of whites are going to vote against Obama as some cretins are projecting here, then how did he win in Iowa? How did he win the nomination? Racism lives, but it isn’t as pervasive as 95% of the electorate rejecting Obama, more like the 6% recently mentioned. But a similar # would probably say no to any candidate who looks as old as McCain, and a heck of a lot more will say no to anyone who talks as dumb as Palin.

Posted by: Dan | October 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Hello Americans: Its so nice to be alive in these trying times. America the Beautiful is still Beautiful, and with a bright future The higher Powers that be impressed me for the writting of this song.- 9-11-08
“Sarah Palin” – Gal south of the “North-Slopes”
By The “Elijah David” Sept 11 08 10:15 PM
Whirlwind out of the North
1
Let me tell you a story about the fame and glory
How a Fair Lady came to be known
As the Barracuda, and a Straight Shooter,
And Alaska is the place that she calls home
2
For She came as a Whirlwind out of the North
Appearing out of nowhere as She came Forth
Katrina, Katrina never had such force
As this “Hurricane– Sarah” coming out of the North.
3
Oh She appears Fancy with the Good Looks and all
For you know how Those Things always go
With the Jealously raising of its Ugly Head,
Sweet Sarah just Smiles, and rolls with the flow.
4
For She is well known for the getting things done,
Instead of the Balk – She hits the home run.
As She rounds the Bases They all stand and cheer,
Wondering in Amazement what have we got here?
5
She rises to the Occasion at just the right time,
And takes the Bull by the Horns.
Throwing him to the Ground, and tying him down,
And making him wish He’d never been born.
6
She greets Folks with a Smile, and a how do you do
No matter what they’re feeling inside,
For She only sees the good in them all,
So come along Folks it’s going to be a good ride.
7
When McCain found the Pearl of the Great Prize,
He went out and bought the Whole Field,
And he saved the best for the big surprise,
And Bam – O-Bama, He knows it’s for real.
8
So come on Folks and gather around the – OK Corral
For the Fireworks are about to begin,
And Sarah’s is a fixing to give them – Well -
You know what I Mean – It’s going to be an Awesome Scene.
Smooth Sailing “America” – without the “Gold-Fringe” around the borders of your Flag.

Posted by: Elijah David | October 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Matt, it doesn’t matter if the book is flattering to Obama or not, only that it will make more money if he wins. Therefore, Ifill has a significant monetary interest in seeing Obama win and might affect her ability to be impartial.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Good Grief…this is a political debate and the stakes are high..the issue of the moderator’s bias should not even be part of the equation. The facts are…Gwen Ifill DID NOT notify PBS that her “Age of Obama” book would be published on Inauguration Day..she has stated that herself. If Obama wins, she will sell lots of books…and a modest return for her would easily exceed $300K (that is modest..it could be much more). If McCain is elected, even liberal apologists on this forum won’t read it for free…So..is her professionalism more important than the monetary return?..Her comment was “”The proof is in the pudding. They can watch the debate tomorrow night and make their own decisions about whether or not I’ve done my job.”
Sure…the debate is now a litmus test for an Obama supporter…whether Ifill can be professional or garner a big paycheck….The Obama campaign has just been an endless string of little quirky and unpleasant surprises…

Posted by: Skip | October 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

“let the truth be known”" I totally agree with you. At least McCain and Palin don’t have funny name (oopps…especially the middle name). That why the dictator from Libya called “our Afrcan brother” and went and said “Mr. Obama has inferior complex due to his skin color”. At lesat we will not hear that kind of mockery from one of our bigest enimies with McCain and Paling. I want to see REAL Americans (who were born from real American parents who gave tax to this country) in the White House.
We don’t want anyone occupy the white house by a son of muslim polygamist who didn’t even gave tax to this country, didn’t serve this country but made two white American women two of his wives and left them with no child support.

Posted by: love this country so much | October 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Dan…no. 95% of Blacks will vote FOR Obama. In a recent poll, 25% of white democrats said they would never vote for a Black. That was a democrat poll. Obama has to be up 15% in the polls on election day or he loses.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

Matt–Gwen Awful said what the book was about. Most of the book is about him and how he has influenced the black race.

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Why does it matter who moderates? With any luck Palin will babble on like the moronic beauty pagent wannabe that she is; note some of her unintelligent babbling answers given to Katie Couric. Palin is a mess and anyone who can’t see that has your head in the sand.

Posted by: Julie | October 1, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Jess – deep breath. And do you conveniently forget that hundreds of thousands were dying EACH YEAR under Saddam as the result of their religion (Shiite) or heritage (Kurds – not Arab). A good portion of those that died were the result of the terrorists trying to take over and intimidate the people of Iraq. Having friends from Iraq (Sunni Kurds) – they appreciated the US getting Saddam out of power – next to come was the sons, who were much worse.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

AP is reporting the Ifill has admitted to not telling the Debate Commission about the book. In short, she was entirely unprofessional. The entire debate is suspect now.

Posted by: Ellen L | October 1, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

“only that it will make more money if he wins. “….no it wont. IF he loses it may make more money because folks will be looking to see what take his race played in him losing. whether he wins or loses makes no difference in sales. In fact, if he wins, then it seems we’ve all moved past the race card and I w ould think t here would be less interest. Imagine he won – what role did race play? Inthe end, none, he won. So why read the book? It actually seems like she is more likely to sell it if he loses andfolks try to figure out what went wrong. this is just a dumb complaint. What is it with McCain. He’s got a complaint a day.

Posted by: Matt | October 1, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Ellen – that is a game changer. Gwen needs to either pull herself out or the Commission needs to pull her. To salvage anything, she needs to make the first move.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Gwen Ifill can report on Obama’s deportation to Indonesia or Kenya. He is still a citizen of Indonesia and Kenya.
The lawsuit againt Obama will give him real “change”, deportation!
Read: case UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE, :
Plaintiff :
vs. :CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083
:
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, ET AL, :
I always wondered why Obama wanted to give free medical care and a driver’s license to illegals, now I know.

Posted by: abe | October 1, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Here is another example of why I (a longtime Democratic gay man) is actually considering the Republicans this year. I want to win too…truly I want people who represent my issues….but the way the Democrats and Obama are playing the game this year is just wrong (I’m also a UCC pastor and simply care about ethics and the “means justify the ends” playbook we’re using is not okay with me) It was bad enough watching sexism bring HRC down while the DNC stood by in utter silence. Its bad enough that even I can see how the mainstream media is simply in LOVE with Obama and is, therefore, biased on a daily basis. Now we’re going to have a moderator for the VP debate who says she’s intelligent and objective but when asked about her new book (which clearly includes the phrase in the “Age of OBAMA in its’ title) her reply was it’s okay…Obama is just a small part of my book! What!!!??? His name is in the title and she’s even named an Age after him!!! Who picked this moderator in the first place and what were they thinking??? Even the staunch Obama supporters (which I am not) are going to see this backfire! If Palin does poorly (as they expect her to do) they Reps. are just going to blame it on the moderator now. An abundandtly CLEAR even playing field is in everyone’s best interests. Unless, of course, you’re in one of these “do anything to win” groups! I’m not and I think this moderator choice is a HUGE mistake!!

Posted by: gaypastor | October 1, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Does Obama have
Narcissistic Personality Disorder, NPD ?
The 2008 Presidential Election in America is the most crucial election in this country’s history, not because the issues are that critical but because of Sen. Barack Hussein Obama The Democratic presidential candidate’s language, posture and demeanor suggest that he may suffer from narcissistic personality disorder, or NPD. NPD is a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration and a lack of empathy.
The following are some of the symptoms of NPD that can be seen in Sen.Barack Hussein Obama.
He subtly misrepresents facts, opportunistically shifts positions, ignores data that conflict with his fantasy world, is overly confident and acts presidential despite commensurate merits and his very modest life achievements, considers himself above the law, talks about himself in the third person, has a messianic vision of himself and his “mission,” displays false modesty while often evincing haughtiness, sublimates aggression, holds grudges and behaves as an eternal adolescent.
These are narcissistic traits as seen in Sen. Obama by Dr. Sam Vaknin. The author of “The Malignant Self Love,” Vaknin states, “Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.”
NPD is the prime disorder experienced by all the madmen of history – from Hitler to Stalin, Mao, Kim, Pol Pot, Osama, Khomeini, Saddam and Idi Amin. These men wreaked havoc and killed millions. They looked normal. Few suspected their insanity until it was too late.
Obama shares something else with these infamous narcissists: a chaotic childhood. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse, such as the neglecting of his or her emotional needs.
Pathological narcissism is not run-of-the-mill narcissism – someone with a hedonistic or self-centered sense of self – but rather someone with a very weak sense of self. A child who feels inferior, due to real or perceived social rejection, will try to compensate his feeling of inferiority by a subconscious neurotic mechanism, which the pioneering psychiatrist Alfred Adler coined “Superiority Complex.”
Such a person compensates his devalued and injured self with puffery, pomposity and by projecting a false image of majesty and authority. He retreats into a bubble universe of fantasy, in which he is loved, respected and omnipotent. All children create such a fantasy world. Narcissists simply don’t leave it. Since, due to their extreme feeling of inferiority, they don’t fit in the real world, they refuge into this bubble world of fantasy and never get out.
This world of pretence becomes to them as real as the real world, to the point that they can’t tell the difference. When Obama acts presidential, he is simply acting out his childhood fantasy of omnipotence and grandeur. Emotionally, he is still a hurt little boy neglected and unloved, in the body and mind of a grown up man.
Narcissists have the emotional maturity of a child, or even an animal, but the intellect of a man. They feel like a beast, but think like a human. What makes narcissists dangerous is their lack of conscience, combined with their superior intelligence and their superb performance ability that fool many.
They are predators that outsmart you.
To a narcissist, reality and fantasy are intertwined. He does not just pretend to be omnipotent, omniscient and superior to others; he actually believes it to be so. His delusions of grandiosity are real to him. That is why Obama acts presidential, despite his nugatory life achievements, lack of experience and complete ignorance in economic, political and Military matters, as his flip-flopping shows.
Obama is a cipher, but in his mind and those of his worshipers, such as Oprah Winfrey, he is “the One,” the messiah who holds the key to all human sufferings.
Narcissism is not just a character flaw, but a mental disorder. Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and they are intelligent, when in reality they live in a bubble world of fantasy. It is this incoherence, this disjunction between reality and fantasy that makes them overly confident, self-assured and authoritative.
Narcissists disguise their feeling of inferiority by projecting unusual calmness, confidence, assertiveness, dominance and focus, and almost always possess superb thespian, communication and oratorical skills.
These are traits that make one charismatic and attract a stampede of votaries like flies to sugar. Narcissists are needy people who crave attention. They develop these skills and act them out with regal exquisiteness to attract love, respect and admiration. They are performers, actors, slick chameleons.
Sadly, all the grace, exuberance, equanimity, charm, positive energy and magnetism that narcissists project, are pretence. They have the same function that the Styrofoam Greek columns at the Democratic National Convention had – to impress.
The world of the narcissist is the magical world of smoke and mirrors. He is an illusionist.
NPD, and people’s lack of understanding of it, has made it possible for many insane individuals to rise to the pinnacles of power. It is to this disorder that we owe most of the carnage of history.
When the Bible describes Satan, it gives a textbook definition of narcissism. Narcissists are charming, charismatic, intelligent, persuasive, but deceitful and ruthless. They can seduce multitudes.
When World War II ended and its horrors became known, the world said, “Never Again.” “Never Again” can only work if we choose our leaders wisely.
Once a madman is in power, it is already too late.
In an article entitled “Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuhrer,” I have shown many narcissistic traits that can be observed in Sen. Obama. Should the senator have NPD, all issues in this election would pale in comparison to what is at stake for America & the World. They always want to talk to the leadership of powers or countries as the belive they are equal and their persons are respected and worshiped, just as dictators and tyrants are.
Imagine someone with the mindset of Hitler, Khomeini or Kim Jong ll, in the White House, with Congress and Senate at his feet. Can you think of a more dreadful scenario equal to Hell on Earth?
In the case of Hitler, the only issue that really mattered was his sanity. Instead, the Germans were hoodwinked by his charisma, his oratorical skill and his vacuous promises of change. Germany paid a hefty price for their negligence. Shouldn’t we learn from their mistakes?
It makes no sense that cops and pilots should be required to take psychiatric evaluation prior to being trusted with a gun or an aircraft, whereas there is no such requirement for those aspiring to run a country and be commander in chief, in charge of weapons of mass destruction.
It is time for the people of the world to demand that those who want to become head of any country submit to rigorous mental checkups. Millions of lives depend on the sanity of these leaders.
If the physical health of presidential candidates is important, how much more important is their mental health?
There is no basis upon which to assume Obama would become a murderous tyrant, but there are a number of disturbing traits he shares with murderous world leaders that are worrisome. He can dispel our fears by submitting to a mental checkup.
In the spirit of fairness, I am asking all candidates to submit to this test. Psychiatric evaluation for leaders seeking positions of authority must become mandatory in all countries.
Without it we are playing Russian roulette with war and our lives. Imagine how many millions of lives would have been spared only in the last century if aspiring leaders were screened and madmen barred from gaining power.
If you agree this is a vital issue, which transcends all other issues, whatever your political affiliation, I urge you to please sign this petition and invite others to do the same.
If enough people become concerned about Sen. Obama’s mental health, they may think twice before casting their votes for him.
Knowledge is Power. Power is with you Now!.

Posted by: opagene | October 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

What difference does her book make. Both candidates will be asked the same questions with the same amount of time to answer them, plus the whole world will be watching so she can’t be biased. McCain and Palin are just being paranoid, and playing tricks with the public again,as if we are dumb.

Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

In the VP debate, I hope Gov. Palin will ask has-been Biden about the lawsuit against Obama in Federal Court.
*** CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083 ***
Why wont Obama produce his:
1. “vault” version (certified copy of his “original” long version)
Birth Certificate
2. A certified copy of Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Oath of Allegiance.
Biden, now is the time to talk and talk and talk…
Only Americans in our White House!!!
Posted by: let the truth be known
I searched a little on the case number you listed.
Is this the rest of the story or is there more?
http://www.allensworth.com/bo/Doc09.pdf

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

McCain wants someone from Fox News to moderate like Bill O’Reilly, or Hannity and Colmes.

Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 1, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

“that hundreds of thousands were dying EACH YEAR under Saddam”…Wrong. They weren’t. There w as a big purging after the first gulf war because Bush1 told them to rise up, we got your back…ehhh, no, actually we dont. it sucks to be you. And we sat and did NOTHING while saddam rounded up and slaughtered everyone who answered Bush1 call. Then what?? nothing. Do NOT say we invade out of altruism. FICTION. WAging war on innocent people is mass murder. Period. And while you may like to THINK They didn’t mind us killing hundreds of thousand of them, that is just your way of being an arrogant ass. How DARE you say those people who died were acceptable losses for the Iraqis. How DARE you? Killing someone for no reason is murder. Killing hundreds of thousands of people is mass murder. Period. And jerks like you dont even have the humility to feel badabout it. how disgusting. If you think all iraqia are happy apparently you dont listen to the news very much because plenty of them think exactly as I do. And i do NOT Think God is happy with us about it either.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Matt-Obama whines and complains of bias if someone gives a hard question, or says anything negative about him at all, hence the Gestapo police in Missouri, the fight the smears campaign to try to hide his ugly associates and dirty deeds. He’s outraged when his wife talks her anti-american trash and gets called out for it. Everything is off limits with the guy.
You can’t talk about his muslim father,
his race,
his wife,
his experience,
his close associations
his voting record in Illinois
his muslim school
his muslim step-father
his pastor
his Kenyan family…….list goes on

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Posted by: woman citizen
“Some of the stuff Dems will throw out there is just disgusting. No wonder even Biden says Obama has bad judgement.”
Exactly and it’s because Moral Relativism is one of their primary tenets. In other words, they make up what is “right and wrong” as they go, as it suits their purposes. How can anyone trust someone whose basic beliefs change with the wind?

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Gov. Palin won a scholarship to college and had a 3.79 GPA. Obama, failed his entrance exan for college and has never released his grades. He filed for “affirmative action” status to get into college. Obama is still cheating the system.
McCain-Palin earned my vote!

Posted by: Alice in Miami | October 1, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

I noticed tonight that Obama has his own television station on Dish Network. Has anyone else seen this?

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Jess – again, deep breath. No one said that they were acceptable losses – no loss of life is acceptable. But if you are going to put numbers out there, you need to tell the whole story. The thousands of deaths occurring each year are indeed fact. And I did not say that all Iraqis are happy – but those I know who suffered Saddam’s prisons very well are. Those whose family members went missing under Saddam very well are. You have a single agenda and don’t take time to look at the other side. One of my friends had the wonderful experience of being in Abu Gharaib under Saddam three times – and he has the horrific scars to prove it. His brother and father have guaranteed asylum here in the US as a result of fighting against Saddam. They still have family members in the Samarra area and can never go to see them as they will be killed if they ever entered the country again – there are still too many Saddam loyalists.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

>>> woman citizen
read http://www.obamacrimes.com
The whole story is there, from the filing of the lawsuit, to present.
-Very Interesting.

Posted by: let the truth be known | October 1, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

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Obama is a scumbag who has scumbag friends. Birds of a feather flock together. Always.
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Posted by: Jack The Ripper | October 1, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

opagene, I agree in principle, but I don’t see any way to keep testers from becoming politicized. It would be a tremendous power and thus bound to corrupt.

Posted by: dculling | October 1, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Palin ‘won a scholarship’???? LOL!! Palin is a journalism major flunk out! It took her SIX YEARS to earn a FOUR YEAR degree! in journalism!! LOL!!! Sheis dumb dumb dumb. Obama graduated from columbia university and Harvard Law School and WAs PRESIDENT ofthe Harvard Law REview..excuse, what was that??? I’ll say it again,he wasPRESIDENT ofthe Harvard law REview, THE MOST WANTED JOB in harvard a nd Obama got it! Obama isn’t just smart, he REALLY Smart. He attended these schools through SCHOLARSHIPS! I think you are a little confused who won the scholarships there pal. And he passed the barr exam, AND he was a law professor for 12 years. Palin went to no name schools and asI said, flunkedout flunked out, kept switching schools. Mccain graduated fourth from LAST in his class, HE was the rich man’s version of affirmative action – had it been on performance only mccain would NEVER have gotton in. Just watch the debate. It’s obvious how smart Obama is. Just watch Palin struggle to figure out which memorized answer she can cram into each question to see there is nothing going on upstairs.

Posted by: Jess | October 1, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

If Gwen is the professional person she claims to be, then SHE SHOULD NOT BE THE DEBATE MODERATOR. Plain and simple!

Posted by: Caligirl58 | October 1, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

Lawyers who are law professors are that because they can’t make it in the legal profession.

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

R..I did. And I am calling Dish to tell them to remove it, or I will switch carriers.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

This upcoming debate will be fun. I’m sure Palin will talk at length about how proximity to Russia makes for expert foreign policy credentials. If she says that again, I will die laughing. Seriously, it doesn’t matter if you’re republican or democrat, this woman is obviously dumb to the core. Worst VP pick ever. If McCain would have chosen a smart VP, maybe they wouldn’t need to make 5 million excuses for her before every major campaign venue.

Posted by: urma | October 1, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

I’ll never vote for a black guy…period! No scumbag ni66er Spike Lee in the Lincoln Bedroom!

Posted by: NubTail | October 1, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Obama is afraid of Sean Hanity. If Gov. Palin gets a democratic henchwoman, the republicans should pick the next moderator.
In the next debate, Sean hanity should be the moderator and let Obama come out of hiding and answer real questions!
Lets be fair…

Posted by: AL JOHNS | October 1, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

If Obama wins, will we have fried chicken and malt Liquor on the WH menu?

Posted by: NubTail | October 1, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

I respect the fact that Senator McCain is taking the high road on this issue about Ms. Ifill being a professional journalist that he holds in high regard. I just hope Ms. Ifill can live up to the expectations and keep it fair.

Posted by: JET | October 1, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Mike – I couldn’t believe it when I saw it tonight and thought the exact same thing. I want it removed, I will not pay for that!

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

urma – since the media only puts out the sound bites that THEY want you to hear – perhaps you should wait until the debate. Even Couric’s interview played the sound bite game – there was more to the interview, but that wouldn’t play well to make people believe that she is not capable. Let me ask you – if Obama is so-o-o-o-o-o much for change, why would he pick a 4 decade, intrenched politican like Biden, who is very well known for putting his foot in his mouth and has even been scolded by Obama?

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

“No one said that they were acceptable losses”… I believe that is exactly what you are doing. Let me tell you, if you killed my babies or my husband I would never forgive that country, i would not care what type of person we were living under. I’m sure all ofthose hudnreds of thousands ofpeople would say they woudl MUCH prefer having Saddam back AND their family back. In fact, you listen to th news, the nightly news,npr interviews, I can’ even count how many interviews i have heard with Iraqis and they wish we never came. Just a few months ago there were surveys to show that over 70% of Iraqis think it is OK to kill americans. Gee, wonder why? They never asked us to come, they never asked ANYONE to wage war ontheir country, blow up their infrastructure nad destablize their entire lives because of Saddam. never. I just heard an interview yesterday where this guy was beside himself sick of having only one hour off electricity a day. Oil is about $20 a gallon there, there is no economy, the country is far more fractured by religion from before we went htere AND his relatives were killed in the invasion. He is NOT happy with us AT ALL. I hear that and feel terrible! I think God is ticked! of course he would be! invading Iraq was war crime. period. you cannot argue with that. Were we in danger? yes or no? no. Then it WAS a war crime. We should at LEAST appologize. AT LEAST. But instead we arrogantly say “oh, you’re better off..” How do you think that sounds to someone who lost family members? having someone from the occupying country tell them they’re better off now.

Posted by: Jess | October 1, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

AL JOHNS – Totally agree with you. Obama really should just do a one on one with Hannity. They have all complained that Palin wasn’t doing interviews and she went to Couric and Gibson and has been ripped apart while Obama will only do fluff interviews!

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

Dobb caused all this garbage along with his lib buddies. The rep brought the topic up to be crushed by social Dems that don’t have a clue.
Loans to people who can’t afford it cost this problems and it was the dems who pushed it.
Change my eye. Wake up America and welcome to the Amero…………..being made in CO as we speak.

Posted by: Jim_Chicago | October 1, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

…and (soon to be) Gov Palin’s performance in the Miss Alaska pagent’s talent contest may be the best predictor of her upcoming performance in the debate, and put to rest any concerns that the electorate may have about her latent racism. Next to Sen Biden’s oboesque endowment any distractions provided by Ms Ifill’s femininity will take a drive-in-movie back seat. She may not choke but compared to the hypothermic meat she’s used to consuming in Alaska debates, her throat is going to have to be at the top of its form unless she’s going to just gargle McCain’s wimpy talking points.

Posted by: jakewaters | October 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

this is so dumb. I am a female engineer,and for an assigment in college I was told by my writing professor to investigate the role of gender in technology. IT makes sense that she would be asked by a publisher to write a book about the role of race in this election year. Why are republicans such cry babies? When asekd by a supporter “how do we get ridof teh b itch?” MCcain answered “Excellent question”, yet they cry sexism because Palin is asked simple questions that she can match up to her memorized answers. And can you imagine I’m Romney supporter! I’m pretty moderate usually but I dont find a thing attractive about this republican ticket. He should have chose romney. Instead he turnedoff allthe moderates REAL BAD And chose to court the wingbat vote.

Posted by: Jess | October 1, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Alice in Miami–You forgot about Biden.
He graduated at the bottom of his class and got caught lying on a resume that he graduated top of his class with a full scholarship. He aldo made an F in ROTC and also in an English class where he plagerized a paper.
Let’s not forget his 1988 bid for president which went down in flames when he was caught plagerizing a biographical speech, of all things. The real guy was a man in Britian running for office.
And he likes to tell people he’s the smartest guy in the room.
Obama and Biden are so well suited because they share the same personality disorder–Narcissism.

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

Jess – I suppose you are for immediate withdrawal? If so, that is pure idiocy. Regarding your claims of problems in the infrastructure – it was totally destroyed from Saddam pouring all the funds from the oil for food program into his bank account and the military to keep the populace in complete fear. Regarding religious divide in Iraq – did you know that Sunnis and Shiites intermarried and Arab and Kurds intermarried BEFORE Saddam came into power? The divide was put there long before we arrived because of Saddam’s policies that if you weren’t Arab and Sunni, you were nothing. The Iraq/Iranian war didn’t do a lot more to help that. I never supported going in in the first place, but we now have to take care of what we started.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

Obama will never do hannity because he is a coward and afraid of the truth but you Dems are blind.
When he says only 5% will get tax increase that is funny. The fairness Doctrine is funny, Global Warming is funny, Pickens and his band of dems who all have stock our now the wind maidens………..
Stop watching MSLSD or cnnn and turn on Glenn Beck so you can no the truth about both parties.

Posted by: Jim_Chicago | October 1, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

Jess..then you are a BIASED female engineer. The point is, Gwen is in the BAG for Obama. If he wins, she is set for life. If he loses, she has to continue shaking down Americans to keep the PBS Socialst Network on line.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

R–Obama is afraid of Hannity. Remember when he sent Truman Burgess to “tear Hannity up” and Burgess left the show with his tail between his legs?

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

“Here is another example of why I (a longtime Democratic gay man) is actually considering the Republicans this year.”
ANOTHER example? Where is the FIRST example of a Democratic gay man considering voting for the Republicans?
Honey, first I seriously doubt you’re gay. Second, I seriously doubt you’re a man. And third, no gay man would EVER vote for a Republican because they have no taste in clothes.
Close your closet door QUICK before someone sees you and mistakes you Mark Foley or Larry Craig!

Posted by: Three Snaps with a Limp Wrist | October 1, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Palin is wanted in Alaska but she is running from the investigation how come that she is qualified

Posted by: Johm Simon | October 1, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

let the truth be known,
Thank you I will.
Does Obama have hard ties into Fairfield Iowa? Search the words Fairfield Iowa Obama, and see the USA another way.
Moderators here will not let me post the name of the “school” there, with full intents to take all wealth to India and the Middle East. It is apparently touted to be the birthplace of Community organizers, and puter techies into subliminals.
The latest community organizer movement is to offer bribes of meals to homeless to register and vote for the candidate at the same time in States allowing it.
Is there truth to the rumors that Illegals and convicted felons have been signed up in the droves ?

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Alice in Miami -
When you make statements like you’re making, very few people will take you seriously. You don’t edit Harvard Law Review or teach Constitutional law without being pretty intelligent. If anything, Gov. Palin could be considered an affirmative action candidate. She’s shown some talent for playing the hocky mom and plain folks role but not for understanding or explaining complex issues. She basically has to resort to pre-prepared statements,provide unintelligible responses or retreat to some ideological cave. Prediction: Given a complex and difficult question, she’ll muddle through and offer some personal story to ingratiate herself to the audience. Sad.

Posted by: 63tango | October 1, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Jim-Chicago-Glenn Beck is great and I’ve read his books too. Very enlightening and humerous.

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

I wonder how the libs/dems feel if Rush or Sean Hannity do the next Presidential debate?

Posted by: JET | October 1, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Palin isn’t running Johm….learn to read and get caught upon the facts.
Hey 3 snaps join the rep they are the party of freedom, slavery, womens right to vote I can go on and on. The dems needs and cater to all groups, not to help but to suck you into a vote.
Why hang with a group that honors a double murderer???

Posted by: Jim_Chicago | October 1, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

63tango..again. The ONLY reason Obama is in the running is because he is BLACK. Any white guy with his same lack of qualifications couldn’t be dog catcher.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Ifill has a vested monetary interest in an Obama victory. Her book about HIS HIGHNESS is due to come out Jan 20 which I think is inauguration day. If Obama wins, Ifill STANDS TO BRING IN MAOR BUCKS IN SALES. Ifill’s response to Palin’s convention speech was nothing but anger and hate towards Palin. IFILL SHOULD NOT BE MODERATING TOMORROW NIGHT’S DEBATE – SHE WILL BE ANTI PALIN … ALL THE WAY!!

Posted by: Temagami | October 1, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

jakewaters,
How can Palin be a racist if her husband is a native Alaskan Indian?

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

So is the McCain campaign going to pull HER HIGHNESS out of the debate? It seems they have some serious problems allowing her to be treated like an adult. I guess she isn’t used to it and can’t handle it.
They have a new strategy for her media access. She will only have to appear before adoring fans and she will speak to them , but only on rare occasion will anybody be allowed to question her.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 1, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

S adams he is one of very few who is there for us. Best news show on because he is telling you the truth.
I vote for people like Paul and Perot not because I agree with everything they say but because they will tell you the truth. Not like Hillary or Obama.
Again Dobb, Reid, Obama, Boxer, Pelosi and a bunch more all pushed us into this crisis. It’s on You tube, in color in there own words. the truth is out there but people have to get off the crack pipe.
G o d bless you S Adam

Posted by: Jim_Chicago | October 1, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

“Jess – I suppose you are for immediate withdrawal? “…I dont give a rats ass about Iraq except for that I feel horrible that we did that to them and I think it was STUPID to take out Saddam which was a BALANCE in the region to Iran. We have finite resources and whatever you decide to pour into Iraq you are then deciding to NOT pour into afghanistan. In the whole exchange about Obama being wrong about the surge i agree with him 100% that the surge came at an expense a nd that expense was that it was NOT being done on AQ. We are FAILING in afghanistan and I would get out of Iraq as soon as possible starting NOW. Let them rise to the occassion, let NATO take over, I don’t give a flying crap. It isNOT the main front on the ‘war on terror” it is a distraction. It was stupid then, it is stupid waste of resources now and it has only made us MORE vulnerable that we did this. If AQ sets up in Iraq when we leave , bomb them bases and do logistics strikes, but as for staying for ahundred years. no. They have a ton of money, let them figure out how to rule themselves. We’re not getting the oil, get over it,

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

63tango – What article(s) did Obama exactly submit and have published in the Harvard Law Review? NONE. Teach Constitutional Law – there are many without law degrees that can do that. If he is so intelligent – please explain the debacle known as the Chicago Appenberg Challenge. As Chair of the Board, he should have known to replace the manager somewhere in the 5 years he chaired. He couldn’t manage a $110 million budget over five years – I do not want him to be handling the Fed Govt. Palin has shown her ability to lead a city and a state. And don’t give me the bologna that they weren’t that big. Have you ever managed either? Do you know what goes into keeping them going? They were certainly much larger than anything Obama has managed.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Truth….Pull her from the Debate? NO WAY! It will be fun watching her take Bidens hair-plugs out …one at a time…..

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

S Adams – Yup. I was cracking up. It just never ceases to amaze me how everyone expects Palin to go in for hardball interviews but the only place Obama will go is on The View where Barbara Walters fawns over the shirt he is wearing….

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

>>>> Jess
You drank the kool-aid!
Both Barak and Michelle were affirmative action in college. They have not released their grades. Both Obama’s were responsible for a small portion of their law school costs. They were given “perks” while in school to make them feel part of the program, example- president of the law review. The Obama’s education has cost the taxpayer about $413,000.
Gov. Palin’s education cost the taxpayer nonthing, she earned her education. Both Gov. Palin and Obama went to different colleges before graduating, but she went through college the right way, she worked for her three college degrees.
Obama was never a professor, he was a part time instructor. Obama lied about being a proessor.
This may be difficult for an obama follower, read and learn. When you open your mouth, you remove all doubt.
NO Kool-Aid Allowed!

Posted by: sally in jacksonville | October 1, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

I agree with Temagami, Ifill is a left wing liberal…she has worked for very liberal organizations (NY Times, NBC, Washington Post) I just hope she can put her bias and financial interest aside and keep it fair. I highly doubt it, and I feel Governor Palin is being set up…again.

Posted by: JET | October 1, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Yo wanttheelectionover
an immediate withdrawl would leave Palin with some thick egg-whiteish goo on her face. She has to take care of what she started. Even the first dude will tell ya. But Iraq is an Iraqi problem. What part of soverign doesn’t the Gov underestand? There is no US victory in Iraq, period. The victory that we would all like to cellebrate will be an Iraqi victory, it has to be to be meaningful. The only Iraqis that will be hurt by an immediate withdrawl are the Kurds, you sorta seem to have forgotten about them. Gov Palin had some kurds once, at the MN state fair, she could tell ya. Biden spoke a truth that McCain doesn’t have enough non-plaqued synapses left to grasp- Kurdistan is America’s natural ally and to leave its fate up to Bush and what little he cares about which Shites off which Sunnis really misses a boat that has been beached atop a mountain since Noah’s time. Wise up, hon.

Posted by: jakewaters | October 1, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

My son, also a Marine was in Iraq when John Kerry and Barak Obama voted against sending him the supplies he needed to survive.
Posted by: Mike | Oct 1, 2008
******************************************* Then he must have also been there when John Mccain voted against funding the troops, because the 2 bills were one right after another with different amendments attached to them.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 1, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Jet that is real funny brother. I would love that but cowards don’t come out during the day.

Posted by: Jim_Chicago | October 1, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Obama is not debating.

Posted by: jbb | October 1, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Jess – I suppose you are for immediate withdrawal? ..that doesn’t make any sense. Why would he assign the task of a boy to write about why there aren’t more women in technical fields? The boy wouldn’t even understand what it is like to be a female. whether or not this women agrees with Obama’s politics at least she already knows what it is like to be a black. She hasn’t written the book and there would be more interest in teh book if Obama loses. I’m having a real problem understanding what the problem is. Oris that the point. Instead of us focusing on any real issues, here we are again discussing trival crap. Is this McCain’s strategy for getting elected? Distraction?

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

I am neutral in this case as I will not be voting in this election, but I have closely followed the process from the beginning and found that the Republicans are big cry babies & their attacks on the other party are personal. If I had to vote on those bases I would not vote for your party. so quite crying just do your debate on Thursday for which I am waiting to see, it should be interesting.

Posted by: Joy Wawrow | October 1, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

This conversation can be ended immediately with an answer to this question.
Can anyone name a single journalist on PBS that does not tilt HARD LEFT?
Name one please and I will go away.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Jess – so your earlier posts you state how badly you feel, but now you don’t give a rat’s a##? I would not disagree that we need to bring the effort back to Afghanistan, however, foolishly pulling prematurely from Iraq will open a can of worms in the Middle East that most of us wouldn’t be able to stomach.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

whoops, let me try this again….”Jess..then you are a BIASED female engineer. “….that doesn’t make any sense. Why would he assign the task of a boy to write about why there aren’t more women in technical fields? The boy wouldn’t even understand what it is like to be a female. whether or not this women agrees with Obama’s politics at least she already knows what it is like to be a black. She hasn’t written the book and there would be more interest in teh book if Obama loses. I’m having a real problem understanding what the problem is. Oris that the point. Instead of us focusing on any real issues, here we are again discussing trival crap. Is this McCain’s strategy for getting elected? Distraction?

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

ABC: How can you put a title “McCain and Palin Sow Doubts About Ifill”. As usual you are slanting the news. You should leave out “McCain and Palin” and say “Doubts about Ifill being moderator due to conflict of interest.” Shame on you but you don’t really care!!
Concerned citizen

Posted by: Concerned citizen | October 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

REPUBLICANS FOR OBAMA – is that the same kindasorta group as Viet Nam Veterans for Obama? I hope not – NOTICE THEY CAN’T EVEN SPELL “VIETNAM” CORRECTLY – NOT ONLY A FAKE – BUT DUMB AS WELL!!!

Posted by: Temagami | October 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

For the past twenty five years, liberals have moderated 90% of all debates, but Republicans are “cry babies”?
If you liberals didn’t have the drive by media carrying your asses, you would never win another election.

Posted by: Phil | October 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

first of all I’m not your brother, second of all what’s funny? and lastly I am out all day.

Posted by: JET | October 1, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Truth..nice try, but totally a lie.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Concerned citizen – You should leave out “McCain and Palin” and say “Doubts about Ifill being moderator due to conflict of interest.” PRECISELY – TYPICAL MEDIA BIAS!

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Obama, freshman senator, attended congress 153 times in 3 years. He has a history of hard drugs, weed and alcohol. His political career was initially started/funded by Resko and Auchi, convicted muslim criminals. Attended a racist anti-american black theology church for 20 years. His pastor, uncle, mentor, and family member, a former muslim, was his spititual guide for 20 years. He freely associated with known terrorists, Ayres and Dohrn for years.
Who in their “wright” mind would vote to a “joke” like this?
Palin for President in ’12 & ’16

Posted by: Jill Taylor | October 1, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

SPECIAL OFFER 2 in 1 FOR MCFAILIN’:
1. Try to scare the moderator in a corner where she might be afraid to appear biased 2. put the blame for Palin’s inevitable failure already beforehand on a biased moderator
Well, the McCain campaign seems to think that Americans are quite dumb and will buy this one too. And by the way, they don’t care that much what the media say (according to their own statements soon after the convention). Aha.

Posted by: Truth matters | October 1, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Republicans are so INSECURE.
All we get is whining, whining, whining.
YOU selected your candidates…they should be grown ups and not whiners all the time.
Given the total implosion of Palin’s previous intervie, Ms. Ifill can ask Palin the following questions approved by the GOP:
What is 1 + 1?
What is the color of your eyes?
What high school did you attend?
Who is your favorite elementary school teacher?
How many children do you have?
The Republicans have set the lowest expectations of leaders ever in history. Can’t go any lower.
If Palin can utter the words ‘good evening’ she will be viewed as a winner by GOP. Such low expectations….shameful.

Posted by: Independent | October 1, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Yo Woman citizen babe,
here’s the thing and it shouldn’t be a big news flash if you live close to the pacific rim, even in Alaska. Ethnicity comes in several flavors, not just white and not-white. Only the Klan looks at the world that way still, so allign the eyeholes in your sheet, please. There wasn’t exactly a huge african slave trade much north of vancouver (actually west of TX but who’s looking at longitute these days, eh?) So Blubber lovers may not swallow Sushi eaters or Falafel vendors or nice boys from NY who wear smal round hats some days, capische?

Posted by: jakewaters | October 1, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

63tango,
Do you recall the debate between Regan and Mondale?
Regan was not a great debater, but was popular and good looking.
He kind of drew people in with a “one of you” presence.
Do you recall the line used in that debate that won him the Whitehouse ?

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

You republicans are here in force tonight !! My My….have you been looking at them naughty polls again ? Tsk Tsk…..you know better than that….it will give you nightmares =P

Posted by: drinker of koolaid ;-) | October 1, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

“Jess – so your earlier posts you state how badly you feel, but now you don’t give a rat’s a##? “…. try finishing my sentence, why don’t you? I said “I do not give a rats a$$ EXCEPT that I feel so bad that we did that to them.’ what do you not understand about that? I dont think WE have any solution for them. I think they have to clean up and mend their wounds that we did to them and i think that really sucks. If you expect me to think that there is any difference between pulling out now, or next month or next year, no, I see no difference, I dont care at all what we do NOW. I dont think it makes a bit ofdifference. what would have made a difference if it we never went in. But it’s too late for that and we can’t really help them anymore. They hate us, they are bitter we are there, and they have to figure thisout for themselves now. it sucks but it’s true. Meanwhile, the entire effort is m aking us MORE VULNERABLE and staying is now a dangerous thing for us to do because every resource we put there we areNOT putting in afghanistan.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Jess..it has nothing to do with gender, but to say I can not have a voice on “womens issues” because I am not a woman does not hold water.
I was simply stating, that, if Gwen’s choice (Obama) gets elected, she becomes a millionaire. If he loses, she has to keep her job at PBS bilking Americans out of our hard earn dollars to keep the PBS socialist network on line.
So, she has a VESTED interest in making Palin look bad. If you don’t like that fact, to bad, it doesn’t change the fact that it IS a fact.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Mike – First of all Thank you to you and your son and all soldiers for serving this country and your bravery and what you sacrifice in order for us all to enjoy the freedoms that we enjoy. Even if most take them for granted. You deserve my utmost respect. My deepest gratitude to you.
Second – Could not agree with all of your points more!

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

jakewaters – you obviously missed my earlier post – my Iraqi friends are Sunni Kurds. They and their family that are still in Iraq are always close to me. Nice try. Immediate withdrawal will result in chaos in the ME as each nation tries to get their piece of the pie, with Iran at the top of the list.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Who cares who is asking the questions…Palin will still have to give answers. Let’s see-McCain suspends his campaign last week to go to DC so he could postpone that debate until this Thursday and avoid a VP debate for Palin. That “tactic” didn’t work so now it’s the smoke screen “strategy”! Draw attention to Ifill so Palin’s answers will not be judged for their LACK of content and coherency. Republicans are just pissed that the only ratings going up are those for Tina Fey and SNL!

Posted by: imnotspoonfed | October 1, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Biden has hair plugs older than Gov. Palin. With all the money biden received from MBNA bank, you think he would get a decent hair plug job.

Posted by: Jerri | October 1, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

she is asking a question …. which BOTH candidates have to answer. She is a journalist and professional. what moderator doesn’t have a political position? If she is such a pit bull she should be able to handle opposition. If she can’t – cancel the debate.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

if Ifill was credible…she should have told the truth up front. McCain’s camp didn’t know about the book till Now. What a deceitful action by the Democrats that shows their lack of scruples. Ifill was picked back in August. She should have declined the offer. She should now step down and let someone else take over. Someone suggest that Sarah walk out and tell Ifill congratulations on her Obama book she wrote… that’s coming out on inauguration day…then everyone will know this woman has a big financial stake in Obama winning!

Posted by: Charles | October 1, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

SPECIAL OFFER 2 in 1 FOR MCFAILIN’:
1. Try to scare the moderator into a corner where she might be afraid to appear biased 2. put the blame for Palin’s inevitable failure already beforehand on a biased moderator
Well, the McCain campaign seems to think that Americans are quite dumb and will buy this one too. And by the way, they don’t care that much what the media say (according to their own statements soon after the convention). Aha.

Posted by: Truth matters | October 1, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

Jess – so you suggest throwing them to the wolves – Iran, Syria, Lebanon, etc? Yeah, like you care. It does make a difference – we made the mess, now we need to clean it up. It’s called accountability.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

jakewaters–You called woman citizen Babe? Sexist much.

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

Obama was the President of the Harvard Law Review. EVERY person at Harvard wants that post, Obama got it. I’m not belaboring the point that Obama is smart. ANyone who watched the debate can see that. I DO see alot of people in here who are upset that a black man and women are better educated and smarter than they are. my goodness, your inferiority complexes are showing. Be careful. McCain graduated fourth from LAST in his class and ONLY got in from connections to daddy and grandad. how do you knowsomeone is an affirmative action or legacy admission??? by how poorly they do. Only the creme de la creme get to president of the harvard law review. I know folks who went to harvard. That is top job. ONLY the smartest gets it. and it’s not something you get for any OTHER reason than merit. I’m comfortable in my education and brains, maybe that’s why I can see someone smart andsay ‘good for them”. I respect brains. I do NOT respect that it took Palin SIX YEARS to get a journalism degree! my God! Journalism? How easy isthat? and mccain graduating LAST in his class? Gee, there were three kids who did worse, out of about 800 students. You know, you guys could have had ROmney on your ticket. YOu do know that right? Then we wouldn’t be havingthis discussion about the pair of village idiots versus the law professor you know? This is YOUR doing.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

R..thanks for the kind words and we know MOST Americans feel the way you do. It just surprises us sometimes how many don’t have a clue.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

RepublicansforObama said: let’s hear your righteous indignation about McCain’s involvement in the Keating 5 during the S&L crisis
Ummmmm McCain, and Glenn were exonerated. Acquitted. The other 3…all Dems….were found guilty. Read something besides MSM’s and HuffPo
Now everyone…let’s all get indignant over the fact that Obama’s campaign contributions are being investigated, as some are coming in from Iran, and other unfriendly nations toward us.
Either wake up, and start reading both sides of this election, or suffer the consequences, when we’re all standing in line for bread and cheese, and you can listen to all of us say….”we told you so”

Posted by: Jeanie | October 1, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

actually Palin should do us a favor and just use this as an excuse and not show up. watching her is painful. spare the public.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

To all you republicans out there:
I just got off the phone with Phil Graham and he wants you all to quit whining.

Posted by: jbb | October 1, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

“but to say I can not have a voice on “womens issues” because I am not a woman does not hold water”………HA HA HA HA!!!! to YOU maybe!! LOL!! ahh, that’s rich. Try writing a book about women’s issues. See how many women buy it. LOL! You sound like a nice guy, you do. But you’re a bit clueless on this one.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

You’d have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to know that Ifil is biased and 100% in the tank for obama. Geez… this ain’t her first rodeo with the biasness.. come on, remember in 2004 and how she talked to Cheney? She was rude, crude and obnoxious to the sitting Vice President. She showed herself then and many other times. Unfortunately, the lefties are weak minded fools.. poor poor pitiful fools.

Posted by: hogtrashhd | October 1, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Truth matters– Well the American people will be completely dumb if they put Obama in office.
Don’t underestimate Palin, I’ve seen her debates in Alaska, she’s very confident and a formidable opponent.

Posted by: S Adams | October 1, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Gov. Palin can field dress a donkey in 10 minutes flat!
Biden, Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid…

Posted by: Baron in AK | October 1, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

If this was not a big deal Ms. Ifill would have been upfront and disclosed the book. Unfortunately this debate will not only be the most watched, but probably the most scrutinized. It has not even taken place yet, and look at all the attention it is drawing.

Posted by: JET | October 1, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Dear Jess, Christ said, “I knew you in the womb” and he said “Thou Shalt Not Kill”. What do you call ripping the arms and legs off a baby and crushing its skull. I wonder how you would feel if you had to witness this a few times and watch the little body being thrown in the trash. God values life. Also read the old testament how God sent men to war. Maybe you will understand the difference between good and evil, but I doubt it. Sounds like you have guilt and are trying to justify some behavior.

Posted by: margo | October 1, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Jess – lol. Again – what articles did he have published in the Review? None. What city or state government has he managed? None. You are still bitter that Romney is not the candidate – this is the third time you’ve mentioned him. I don’t respect someone who hangs around with the Chicago sleaze.

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Jess…Obama got that job because Harvard wanted to get past the fact that they never had a Black in that positon. So, they got their token, and it will never happen again.
Again, Obama is in the position he is in, only because he is Black. Any white guy with his lack of accomplishments would not be senator, let alone be running for president.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Instead of one vp debate with the sole moderator, Gwen Ifill, in the tank for Obama we need to have a second debate in two weeks. The sole moderator in debate #2 should be Sean Hannity.
Gwen Ifill should have been forced to convince the Commission on Presidential Debates that she wasn’t in the tank for Obama. Polls show that 95% of blacks are voting for Obama. Her skin color alone should have made her suspect as moderator and if the CPD had vetted her properly they would have found out how biased her reporting was and how much she hates Republicans by the way she reported from the RNC floor after Sarah Palin gave her acceptance speech. With a little research they also would have found out about her upcoming book that depends on Obama’s election to be a best seller.
But, the truly most scariest thing I’ve ever seen in a political contest for POTUS were those children singing to Obama. It made me think of the Hitler Youth.

Posted by: Happy American | October 1, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Night folks!!!!!!! See you at the debate!!

Posted by: wanttheelectionover | October 1, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

I was pondering Palin’s interviews with Couric and it got me to thinking. If those interviews were for the position of dog catcher I can’t see anyone short of a pervert concluding…oh, yea she’s what we were looking for. I guess she would prefer to be asking and answering the questions. Let her – it will not make a difference.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Mike – I get very angry when I hear people, and people who want leadership roles in our country degrade our men and women overseas. I have known more then a few soldiers who have gone back for two or three times because we are doing good things over in Iraq. I have a sign hung in my home that says “Thank a Soldier”. And I truly believe it and to elect a president who has criticized our troops and called them murders and rapists would be a complete and utter disgrace.

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

I was pondering Palin’s interviews with Couric and it got me to thinking. If those interviews were for the position of dog catcher I can’t see anyone short of a pervert concluding…oh, yea she’s what we were looking for. I guess she would prefer to be asking and answering the questions. Let her – it will not make a difference.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

“we made the mess, now we need to clean it up”…we can’t. First problem: Afghanistan if going down the toilet. That is DANGEROUS for us. WE have finite resources. sometimes you need to recongize we can’t because WE CAN NOT. We are on the brink of financial insolvency and unlike the depression when FDR went into to debt to pump momey into the economy, if we go down this, I honestly do not see what would bring us up. SECOND: the riff we have created is not ours. The BIGGEST challege is to get all sectors of the population invovled in the political process. They need to growtheir own leaders. They need to grow their own ben franklin, their own John Adams, their own WAshington. Nobody won our independence for us, nobody wrote our constitution for us, we did it. Did you read “overthrow”? This idea that WE can fix other nations, with other relgions and other cultures , that WE can fix thier problems is not only niave, it is irresponsible. The best thing may be to just break the country up.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

To Katherine who is worried about people ‘worshipping’ a politician. Why don’t you tell us how you react to all discussions of the sainted Ronald Reagan?
It gives me a bit of the chuckles to hear republicans whine about Obama’s popularity. Regardless of party, these blanket smears are all just boring – nothing is ever so simple. one guy is not all good and the other guy all evil. It’s time to growup, the country needs us to do the right thing.

Posted by: McGreen | October 1, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Yo Woman citizen babe,
here’s the thing and it shouldn’t be a big news flash if you live close to the pacific rim, even in Alaska. Ethnicity comes in several flavors, not just white and not-white. Only the Klan looks at the world that way still, so allign the eyeholes in your sheet, please. There wasn’t exactly a huge african slave trade much north of vancouver (actually west of TX but who’s looking at longitute these days, eh?) So Blubber lovers may not swallow Sushi eaters or Falafel vendors or nice boys from NY who wear smal round hats some days, capische?
Posted by: jakewaters
Can you tell me what Party placed
Clarence Thomas
Condi Rice
Colin Powell?
Can you tell me what party was so biased it could not place a more qualified resume than BO, simply because she was the wrong gender?
I can.
See women now have enough Power to corrupt the vote and put a woman in the Whitehouse, so the excuse cannot be a tool for Dems ever ever ever again.
The change for 2008 isn’t about race it is about gender.
The more people run her down, the more women will walk in and vote for her….not based on anything else but femicide.
You realize of course that if Geraldine had been elected long ago, we would not suffer breast cancer, less wages for the same work, and system biases acting as accessory to violent crimes against women.
Wild Willy Clinton would have gone away for the dress, and prostitutes would not be used as bribe tools by lobbyist.
I say all this negative sexist babble is actually getting her elected.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Unfortunately, the Republicans are not only running against Obama and Biden, BUT 80 -90 PERCENT OF THE NEWS MEDIA AS WELL. THIS IS SO BEAUTIFULLY HIGHLIGHTED BY A STORY THAT JUST BROKE IN THE CLEVELAND AREA TODAY – A LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE MEDIA INSTRUCTOR ASSIGNED A RESEARCH PAPER ALLOWING STUDENTS TO USE ALL NEWS NETWORKS …. EXCEPT FOR “FOX” NEWS IN THEIR PAPERS. INSTRUCTOR STATED THAT SHE WOULD NOT ACCEPT PAPERS THAT INCLUDED REFERENCES TO INFORMATION PUT OUT BY FOX!! TALK ABOUT ACADEMIC FREEDOM – LACK OF. This was exposed on a local radio show and as you might expect, the college is getting hammered!!

Posted by: Temagami | October 1, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Moderators should be impartial, except when the democrats will benefit.
No way, no how, NObama, not now, not ever!

Posted by: Julie 1969 | October 1, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Here’s why she isn’t a “legal” moderator. She is far from impartial.
Gwen Ifill, the supposedly “impartial” moderator of Thursday’s vice presidential debate, is in fact the author of an upcoming book that expresses admiration for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Her book “Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama,” sheds “new light” on Obama and other “emerging young African-American politicians” who are “forging a bold new path to political power,” according to the official promo for the book, scheduled for release on Inauguration Day, Jan. 20.
Ifill, an anchor on the Public broadcasting Service program “Washington Week,” did not return a phone call from WorldNetDaily asking if her book’s success “would be expected should Obama lose,” WND reported.
But in an online video promoting the book, the African-American newswoman states that she is enthusiastic about “taking the story of Barack Obama and extending it.”
Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin expressed outrage over Ifill’s selection as moderator.
“Ifill and her publisher are banking on an Obama/Biden win to buoy her book sales,” she wrote.
“Try as she might to deflect questions about her impartiality, her biases — and her conflict of interest — are clear…
“My dictionary defines ‘moderator’ as the ‘nonpartisan officer of a town meeting.’ On Thursday, PBS anchor Gwen Ifill will serve as moderator for the first and only vice presidential debate…
“But there is nothing ‘moderate’ about where Ifill stands on Barack Obama. She’s so far in the tank for the Democrat presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running out.”
Malkin pointed out that Ifill recently wrote a “fawning cover story” about Barack and Michelle Obama for Essence magazine.
It’s been reported that John McCain did not know about Ifill’s book and the campaign “should have been told before the campaign agreed to have her moderate. It simply is not fair — in law, this would create a mistrial.”

Posted by: Lisa | October 1, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Now compare that with Oprah’s conflcit of interest. She refused Palin the time on her show because she is biased for Obama

Posted by: akg | October 1, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

“I was simply stating, that, if Gwen’s choice (Obama) gets elected, she becomes a millionaire”…. I disagree. If Obama loses, then it becomes a case study in what went wrong. Did race play a role. Then the books sells and mabye some universities would even make it require reading. But if he wins, who will ask the question of what role race played? He won. It didn’t play a role. in the end, he won, we will then be officially past that era and nobody will give a crap. the book hen doesn’t sell. We will instantly move on from having a black candidate to having a black (half black) president so the book will be obsolete on teh first day it is released. IF you ask me, the publisher, by delaying the release, if banking on Obama losing.

Posted by: Jess | October 1, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

Jess – I find that when women bring up “women’s issues” they are mainly talking about the abortion debate. Certainly not talking about women’s careers or you would be cheering for Palin’s successes, instead because she is against abortion she is being condemned for every reason imaginable. However, to tell a man he shouldn’t have a say in “women’s issues”. Well you are all giving Obama an awful big SAY IN YOUR ISSUES. To me the abortion issue is not merely a woman’s issue, it is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE. And it is murder plain and simple. And Obama voted to legalize partial birth abortions no less so that even takes away the question of when life begins. Partial birth is giving birth to a child you could survive outside the woman and then killed. How that can ever be justified is beyond me. And there was a man involved in the making of that child and therefore he should have a right about whether or not his child is allowed to exercise it’s constitutional right to LIFE liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Oprah is not a journalist. try again
I think it is SEXIST for McCain to cut off the women (Palin and his wife) when he is in an interview with them. Watch the interviews. the media bis whining is ridiculous. its the same media that was present when the GOP won.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

This whole Gwen Ifill book deal that is set to be released on January 20, kind of reminds me of the Boston Media that was all set to release the perfect season of the New England Patriots…and we all see what happened there.

Posted by: JET | October 1, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

By the way, wasn’t it Clinton who signed the bill that started free trade and sent jobs out of the states. I think it was signed in 1992. Correct me if I am wrong, sometimes I have memory lapses.

Posted by: margo | October 1, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

ah, errrm. thanks for pointing that out S Adams old ally. oops i mean experienced ally. Actually I think the babeish misdirection missed the point that I was trying to make, which was that if the sainted individual (gender neutral, please) had sampled Seamen (that would be commissioned and enlisted personnel from our own US Navy) or what they casually toss off at sea or in port, this individual would enlighten themselves to a suprisingly wide diversity of flavors. So a dude who was portrayed in popular mythology as tasing like butter after they ran around a tree for some condsiderable time might not taste the same as one who could bludgeon to death a baby Harp seal. Its not about sexism hon, its about the tastes prejudices leave in your mouth.

Posted by: jakewaters | October 1, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

as I understand the book is not solely about Obama.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Okay, Mike is an idiotic racist voicing his opinion, so ignore him and he will afde away.
Back to he subject, Ms. Ifill name has been known for weeks, her book located online and available for anyone wanted to check on her if they so wish. It wasn’t a problem until the last 24 hours of the debate, which means that Palin isn’t ready.
Don’t make excuses at the last minute , this could have been handled weeks ago.

Posted by: Alexander | October 1, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

but to say I can not have a voice on “womens issues” because I am not a woman does not hold water”………HA HA HA HA!!!! to YOU maybe!! LOL!! ahh, that’s rich. Try writing a book about women’s issues. See how many women buy it. LOL! You sound like a nice guy, you do. But you’re a bit clueless on this one
——–
Jess…by your argument, you can’t have any position on our military because you never served…..see how STUPID your argument is? And, I am not being condescending because you are a girl. I am being condescending because you are inferior.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Gwen Ifill another Obama stooge.
Is there no end to the lies and deceit of the democrats?

Posted by: steve | October 1, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Sounds like they are already making excuses for Governor Palin if she doesn’t do well now they have a scapegoat.

Posted by: lanawonders | October 1, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

this election has showed that Blacks are very proud ethnic group,
ok now replace the word “Black” by “White”
it become a racist statement
Are Blacks racist, why is every black finding second coming of Christ in Obama

Posted by: akg | October 1, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Folks, I have now read where a number of bloggers have posted on this site as well as man others that they have heard that Obama has hired bloggers to scour Internet sites and fill blogs with negative-McCain opinions. Folks, this “I HAVE HEARD” is one of the oldest political tricks in the book! It is so old, in fact, I am surprised that anyone would fall for it! Where is your proof? Where are your facts to back up your claims? Most of all WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE? Unless you can prove your accusations by verifiable evidence all you are really dong is to spreading “RUMORS AND GOSSIPS.” This BTW is one of the many pages right out of the REPUBLICAN PLAY BOOK and those of you who are trying your best to spread these RUMORS are nothing more that PAID REPUBLICAN BOLGGERS! just how LOW will McCain and his followers go!!!!

Posted by: WISDOM FIRST! | October 1, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Alex…ahhhh, the typical socialist response to freedom of speech. I am not a racist. Everyone knows that a white guy with Obamas lack of experience would NOT be any party’s candidate for president.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Alex…ahhhh, the typical socialist response to freedom of speech. I am not a racist. Everyone knows that a white guy with Obamas lack of experience would NOT be any party’s candidate for president.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Oprah is not a journalist but she is living up to her own racist beliefs. She is supporting Obama for the mere fact that he is black. If he was not runnign for President and say for example Biden won the ticket she would be all over Palin as a woman breaking the glass ceiling. She chose her race over her gender. And that is her perogative. But the old wise Oprah isn’t as “all knowing” as everyone believes her to be…afterall she was conned by a drug addict not that long ago.

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

“And it is murder plain and simple”…again, to you. I have thousands of eggs. I was born with them. they are part of my body. I made four babies. That’s it. the rest of the eggs will die and i owe them nothing other than t he time they live within me. There is no right to development. A fertilized egg is still my egg, or someone else’s egg with sperm in it and if you develope it into another being, then it will be. If you do not, then it is just like every other egg that leaves your body and I honestly see no difference between the two. This is a religious question. I am Christian and Christ never said he would prefer that women carry eveyr pregnancy to term. here we have a moon who’s cycles coincide to a women’s so when the moon is full and you don’t get your period, you know. And here we have abortions going on before Christ’s time, during andafter and never once did he interfere in it. So I take Christ’s example. I have never had an unwanted pregnancy and I’m pretty certain I never will, and as for my role in other girls or women and their bodies, I feel it would be VERY UNCHRISTIAN to try ot force tehm to develope every fertilized egg into a human being . I dont even know, in my heart of hearts, that would be a moral or ‘better’ thing to do. Eggs die every month. IF it’s removed thefirst month, what is the difference? it has no cognizance, it knows not of itself, it has no central nervous system or feelings niether physical or emmotional. If you w ant ot talk about late term, i’m not so comfortable. But third trimester abortions are aboslutely illegal and second trimester are under restriction so i think the laws for abortoin are just fine where htey are. As for ‘women’s issues” of course you aren’t aware of any, you dont have a women’s point of view. And as an engineer who sees this bubblehead journalsim major flunkout as VP, THAT is affirmative action to me. She is dumb, uneducated and if God forbid, she would become president I feel she would fail so badly everyon would forget how uneducated she was, how over her head she was, and when the economy completely collapses all they will remember is that she was a women.The Best thing for women is that she gets nowhere near the whitehouse.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Lets define racism. When 95% of a particular race votes for a candidate based upon their race.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Hey Jess – “”we made the mess, now we need to clean it up”…we can’t. First problem: Afghanistan if going down the toilet. That is DANGEROUS for us.” and “The BIGGEST challege is to get all sectors of the population invovled in the political process. ” and “The best thing may be to just break the country up. “. Can’t disagree there. But had to go back see what you are talking about. We are trying to get all the sectors involved in Iraq. But they are all so fearful from years of oppression that this has been difficult. Add in the influences from, in particular, Iran, and it’s almost impossible. I would say we first need to build trust – and to suggest just breaking them up is not the answer. They’re Ben Franklins and John Adames are starting to come forward. They have ratted out Al Quaeda in Iraq, they have leaders stepping forward to take the lead. As I just said, there has been so much fear and mistrust in this country for several decades it TAKES TIME to build it back. People like you embolden the terrorists to want to stick around.

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Racism anyone? A black commentator writing a book about young black politicians coming up through the ranks? Well, of course, she must be biased huh McCain? Don’t try to disguise it as anything than what it is. By the way, I’m white and I’m offended!

Posted by: mf7226 | October 1, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Jess…by your argument, you can’t have any position on our military because you never served….I agree that I would never be qualified to write about soldiers. Why would I? Iknow nothing about it, I never served ,I never felt what they felt and there are plenty of soldiers out there who do and who can write so why would a publisher ever ask me? I have my forte. I know techinical issues quite well. I also took a bunch of economics and history courses because I thought it was interesting and you have to take electives and i read alot. But I do not knowthe life of a solider at the level of a soldier inhis day ot day. So I agree with you. ON a higher up bigpicture level , I would have some clue because I have some depth, some, of knowledge on world history, american history and the formations of countries.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

As for ‘women’s issues” of course you aren’t aware of any, you dont have a women’s point of view. -
Actually I very much have a woman’s point of view as I am a woman.

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

incredibly disingenious, (but par for the course) of the McCain campaign to praise Ifil on the one side while undermining her on the other…this campaign is incredibly cynical. What happened to the old John McCain, the one who traded on his independence and integrity. And coming soon after the VP debate, the McCain campaign is going to make hay from the wedding of Bristol Palin…after they said she was off limits, they are now about use the weeding of a 17 year old to distract the nation and get a bump in the polls….the lowest of low. Very sad.

Posted by: ringer | October 1, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Hey McSame folks,
Stick to the topic will ya for a change? The topic is about Ifill moderating tomorrow’s debate. The issue is will she be fair or not and why are the McCain campaign and surrogates all up in arms now (debate’s eve, considering the fact that Ifill signed the book deal in 2007. If you argue she will not be fair, then why on earth did the McCain camp accepted her as a moderator in the first place? If you argue that the didn’t know about the book deal, then are you willing to admit that the McCain camp is incompetent and often than not fails to do its homework…say like it failed to vet the ditsy who can’t mention a single paper she may have read during her 44 years of life…or any major supreme court cases beside Rowe v. Wade. Which is it?

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | October 1, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Hey McSame folks,
Stick to the topic will ya for a change? The topic is about Ifill moderating tomorrow’s debate. The issue is will she be fair or not and why are the McCain campaign and surrogates all up in arms now (debate’s eve, considering the fact that Ifill signed the book deal in 2007. If you argue she will not be fair, then why on earth did the McCain camp accepted her as a moderator in the first place? If you argue that the didn’t know about the book deal, then are you willing to admit that the McCain camp is incompetent and often than not fails to do its homework…say like it failed to vet the ditsy who can’t mention a single paper she may have read during her 44 years of life…or any major supreme court cases beside Rowe v. Wade. Which is it?

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | October 1, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Jess, If you have all that knowledge, why are you so dumb?

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

R.
I really don’t know about Obama assigning bloggers and neither do you. However, IF OBAMA TELLS ME TO “GET IN MY NEIGHBORS FACE,” OBAMA WILL DO MOST ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED!!!

Posted by: Temagami | October 1, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Poor, Poor Republicans. After 8 years of incompetence, war, and deregulation that significantly contributed to this $700 Billion financial crisis…HOW DARE YOU POINT THE FINGER AT ANYONE!!!!!!!
So tired of the excuses and pity parties. YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE for the worse administration in our great country’s history.
YOU had nothing to say when Bush, McCain, Cheney and Rove screwed over this country so zip up the lip service now about Gwen Ifill.
If McCain/Palin are such lightweights, you should not have selected them.

Posted by: Rendrag | October 1, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

You people still listen to Limbaugh after the last 8 years and the mess they got us into? What’s wrong with you. How many time do you have to touch a hot stove before realizing youve been burnt? Didn’t Einstein say inanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? Look Obama promised us change..he and the democrats must deliver or risk losing the confidence of the people who put him there. That will also hurt the republicans. None of them would be trusted again. Normally, that would be typical. But these arent typical times. There’s more to lose for both parties. The only reason the republicans are worried about Ifill is they are looking for an excuse to cover for Palin should she blunder again. She will.It’ in her nature.

Posted by: dan kolich | October 1, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

If S. Palin falls flat on her flippin’ ignorance then Gwen will be crucified.
If S. Palin survives with even one tooth still intact, then Sarah “D” Palin (“D” for the D-grades she sought in college) will be the toast of the MSM circuit til election day – and Gwen will be crucified for daring to to ask a question.
So, move on.
If S D Palin can’t stand the heat, she should get out of the kitchen. Stop the babysitting: Surely the GOP can front a capable woman …

Posted by: chokora | October 1, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

mf7226…
I think you might sing a different tune if the Moderator was Sean Hannity.

Posted by: SF | October 1, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

R.
I really don’t know about Obama assigning bloggers and neither do you. However, IF OBAMA TELLS ME TO “GET IN MY NEIGHBORS FACE,” OBAMA WILL DO MOST ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED!!!
- I don’t recall saying anything about Obama assigning bloggers.

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Again. A recent survey commissioned by democrats found that 25% of registered democrats said that they would NOT vote for a Black candidate under any circumstances.
Obama will need a 15% lead in the polls to win. Won’t happen.
Good night everyone. Glad you had the opportunity to learn from me.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

“Lets define racism. When 95% of a particular race votes for a candidate based upon their race.”
No. Racism is when that’s the only reason that YOU can see for African-Americans voting for the candidate who best represents their interests. McCain and Palin sure as hell won’t.

Posted by: Unidentified Flying Officer | October 1, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

When all is said and done and the debates, rallies and speeches are over, it really comes down to character. When you look at Senator Obama’s affiliations and associations, they seem at best questionable. After all character, morals and ethics are the root of our foundation and society.

Posted by: JET | October 1, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Hareta.
THE BOOK DEAL WAS KEPT A SECRET UNTIL WELL AFTER DEBATE PLANNING WAS COMPLETED!!

Posted by: Temagami | October 1, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

“Obama will need a 15% lead in the polls to win. Won’t happen.” See you in November. There is NO alternative to Obama. The Republicans sure as heck haven’t offered one.

Posted by: Unidentified Flying Officer | October 1, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

“Obama will need a 15% lead in the polls to win. Won’t happen.” See you in November. There is NO alternative to Obama. The Republicans sure as heck haven’t offered one.

Posted by: Unidentified Flying Officer | October 1, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

“People like you embolden the terrorists to want to stick around.”..Dont tell me that iraqis pushing back against an illegal occupying power is a terrorist. By that logic Irish was terrorists to the invading England and the minute men were terrorist to the british soliders. The broad blanket of ‘terrorists” over both iraqi and AQ is childish. And again, we cannot have all things that we want. YOu are like a child in a toy store. But i NEED that, and that and that and that.. no. We only have enough money (and men) for ONE.PIck ONE. No, i want that and that and that and that. People like ME would have NOT said yesto the stupid war. People like ME would have saved the lives of 4000+ americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, kept Iran in check AND made sure afghanistan was the priority and would have rooted out OBL by staying FOCUSED on the priority of what our military SHOULD do which is keep us safe by going after our enemies and to tell me some iraqi who hates us and is attackig us for being in his country is our enemy, well, i’d say we MADE him our enemy didn’t we? No iraqis came here and attacked us, did they?

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

or is the fresh commotion about Ifill a prelude to the lame excuses McCain and his supporters will churn to justify the predicted dismal performance of Palin in tomorrow’s debate? How predictable and desperate you guys are, really pathetic!

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | October 1, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

R – you have ZERO proof that Oprah supports Obama because of his race. ZERO! Today it’s race and tomorrow you will claim that they are fellow Elitists. You’re desperate. To all those who insist on making the argument that blacks overwhelmingly are voting for Obama WHERE WERE YOUR CONCERNS FOR HOW BLACKS VOTED WHEN NEARLY 100% VOTED FOR WHITE CANDIDATES? Second, Obama is NOT THE FIRST AA to run for president and I challenge you to show me historically, factually where these previous AA candidates received any where near the support Obama has received. It’s not the color. It’s the issues. Competency matters. No other voting block has been as consistent in voting for the democratic ideology. You can check that too. Anyone checking on the voting trends of any other minorities other than Blacks and Hispanics? How about Orientals?

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Hey Jess – “Eggs die every month. IF it’s removed thefirst month, what is the difference?” BIG!!! That is the beginning of a human being who actually could make an incredible difference in this world. Women should not be forced to carry a pregnancy to term if it is the result of rape, incest or the mother’s life is in danger – that is the individual woman’s choice – , but abortion is not a method of birth control. There are other ways to prevent pregnancy.

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

“Obama will need a 15% lead in the polls to win. Won’t happen.” See you in November. There is NO alternative to Obama. The Republicans sure as heck haven’t offered one.

Posted by: Unidentified Flying Officer | October 1, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Lady Angry Michelle said she was proud of her country for the first time in her life because her husband, Mr. America community organizer, was the first black running for president. So who began making race an issue of this campaign?
I´d never vote for Nobama, no matter if he were black, white, latin, protestant, catholic, jewish, straight or gay. Racism is when black people vote a candidate only because he´s also black. Hasn´t he got any more to offer?

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | October 1, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

We have very real issues at hand in our country today. And when I look at the two parties I will always go with a party who serves in the best interest of my country and the rights of its citizens. As far as I can see the democrats are more worried about saving a puppy these days then they are preserving human life. At least in my neck of the woods they are more worried about the puppy mills then anything else. But that’s their perogative and they have to live with their choices.
I close tonight as always with the words of General Patton Jr. “If everyone is thinking alike…someone isn’t thinking”. God Bless AMERICA
McCain Palin 08

Posted by: R | October 1, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Republican Christians for Obama!!! you are BUNCH OF DEMS! IT IS DIRTY POLITICS YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT BY BARACK!!! YOU ALL DEMS AND TANK FOR BARACK! AMERICA WAKE UP OTHERWISE BUCH OF LEFTIES WILL HIGHJACK THE BASIC VALUES

Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama | October 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Affiliations? What GOP candidate isn’t chummy with BUSH, CHENEY and Scooter Libby and all the other elected GOP perverts? I know felons, but that does not make me one. I know racists. That doesn’t make me one. Get real you desperados!

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Chokora
Nope. I would think that he would have to be fair or be crucified by the rest of the press. Just like Ifil.
Of course, Hannity is already white – not likely to be an object of racism is he? Is he writing a book about up and coming black politicians? Yeah. Didn’t think so.

Posted by: mf7226 | October 1, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Temagami,
Inadvertently making my point. So are you willing to admit the McCain camp is failing to do its homework time and time again?

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | October 1, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Jess – “Dont tell me that iraqis pushing back against an illegal occupying power is a terrorist.” Are you thick? The overall problem in Iraq has been extremists coming in from other countries and causing problems. If they weren’t – this would have been a lot further done than it is. Our biggest error once we were there was not securing the borders to keep them out.

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

R.
Sorry, I must have gotten user names wrong.

Posted by: Temagami | October 1, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

jakewaters,
The last comment probably just got more than 2,000 women reading here to decide to vote gender.
Like I said, the more babble, the more women will vote for a woman this year.
I wonder if you fear women as equals , who if given power, may begin to legislate over mens body parts and call for mandate requirements.
The legislative package would never be called a cut for a P-rick resolution as it is debated I am sure.
If you were ever in the uniform instead of squawking about like a chicken in the hen yard, you would “stand down” on the babe thing. How many women are serving in the U S Navy and other armed forces, to give you the freedom to speak stupid right now?
Palin will not have to say a word in this debate, if femicide continues as prevelent as it is now.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

This could backfire on the Democrats if If Ifill is seen as biased in any way toward Governor Palin, it could be bad for the Democrats.
If she cuts her off mid sentence or attacks her in any way…the viewers will see that as BIASED moderating.
IMO – Ifill should have to disclose to the viewers that she has written a book and id not disclose to the commission that fact and still took the job…

Posted by: SF | October 1, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

And John McCain said ..he didn’t appreciate America UNTIL he was without her. And?

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Hello There,
I am always surprised how the tolerant leftists always resort to ad-hominem attacks about the ignorance of anyone with whom they disagree. I am a moderate republican. I am also a mathematics research faculty member of a tier one university. Yes, that means I have a Ph.D. and you have to earn that degree. It is surely acceptable to disagree with other people but it is not proper to belittle them just because of the disagreement. And one final note…Academic faculty in the sciences always find it amusing when non-academics praise the incredible intelligence of lawyers…

Posted by: PWB | October 1, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

“Women should not be forced to carry a pregnancy to term if it is the result of rape, incest or the mother’s life is in danger “..tell that to Palin. She want to force women to carry the pregnancies of their rape to term. No kidding. how lovely. How christian, having some baby with half violent rapist DNA in it. Hope it doesn’t grow up to rape or kill someone. So, you think it’s constitutional to force all the others girls to develope a baby against their will??? I’d argue that is involuntary servitude and that is quite illegal. To you it’s a big deal. to me, it’s not. So we agree to disagree and you cannot dictate to me what i must do with the INSIDE of my body. YOu are not the boss of me. I am. and I am the boss of my eggs. I owe them NOTHING. If I choose to develope them, I will. IF I dont, I don’t have to, and that is how it shoudl be. That being said, I agree birthcontrol should be taught and readily available because abortion surely shoudl not be used as birthcontrol for a mirade of reasons.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

SoWhat – it means he took America and her opportunities for granted – which many people do. After what he went through, he understood more what America was about and appreciated Her. Nothing more, nothing less. It was a thank you to his country.

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

It’s a silly assertion to beleive that Ifill will sway the debate. She is not going to risk her career by doing that. Even if she asked nuance questions that favored Biden, we’d all notice because that stuff is not hard to discern. Her career would certainly be over if that were the case. Even more importantly a stunt like that could quite possibly cause Obama to lose and I doubt she wants that burden on her shoulders. It is the candidates answers that will sway this debate…not the questions. Palin could not name one single significant Supreme Court case aside from Roe v. Wade. That should cause concern for people.
One could also argue that even if Obama lost, the book would still sell because it’s not just about him, but about several African American politiciansand their rise in politics. It is a historically significant topic that purveyors of history will undoubtedly be interested in whether Obama wins or not.
I’m sure this book selling or not will not break the bank for Ifill, financially or pyscologically. This is nothing more than cleverly timed Rovian stunt the McCain camp is pulling to distract from Palin’s debate performance.

Posted by: Ifill Will Not Sway The Debate | October 1, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

“Former Bush Secretary of State Colin Powell is also a subject of the book.”
And Powell is also blinded by the love towards a fellow black person
this is sick, only blacks can get away with blatant racism

Posted by: akg | October 1, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

A lawsuit was brought by Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA, filed a lawsuit in Federal Court on 8/21.
“Plaintiff Philip J. Berg, Esquire [hereinafter “Plaintiff”] hereby offers this Memorandum in support of his motion for a temporary restraining order, to enjoin Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham [hereinafter “Obama”] from running
for the office of President of the United States”
“Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Reports reflect that Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy (which, apparently, was a normal restriction, to avoid births during a flight). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama’s birth.”
The DNC is looking into Obama’s Kenya origial birth certificate. Another lie from “The One”. Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya. This will be the downfall of “the one”. Obama was a citizen of kenya, USA and then Indonesia. When he became a citizen of Indonesia, he lost his status as citizen of the USA. he can never be a “natural born” citizen of the USA. Therefore, he can’t be elected president, only natural born citizens can be elected president.
“A research team went to Mombassa, Kenya, and located a Certificate Registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. at a Maternity Hospital, to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen.”
Can’t wait to see this play out.

Posted by: Just say no to Obama | October 1, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Stephen from Indiana – If that’s really who you are. Here’s the definition of Racism (not one race voting for a candidate based on color of skin):
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Posted by: mf7226 | October 1, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Jess – so are you telling me that you 100% agree with Obama on every issue and will blindly follow him regardless of where he takes you? Choosing a candidate to vote for means that in principle you overall agree. Just because you believe that a one month old fetus shouldn’t be valued, doesn’t make her wrong that it should be.

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

jESS, Please educate me. Where in the Bible does it say women had abortions in the time of Christ and he approved?

Posted by: margo | October 1, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

What else would you like the moderator to disclose? If she had abortions? Her faith? Her weight? It’s not the moderators that have Palin tripped up – it’s her handlers and most importantly;it’s Palin. There’s a HUGE difference in speaking FOR women and speaking AS a woman.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Stephen from Indiana,
I hope you do not expect 100% of Americans to vote for one candidate…You will be one of many that will not vote for Obama. So what? What will matter is if the majority will vote for him…like 51%. My prediction is it will be a landslide:)…I hope you aren’t planning to move to Russia (it’s very close to Alaska according to Palin) in the event Obama/ Biden win…Keep in mind Moscow is about 6000 miles from Juneau, you may want to carry a couple of sweaters with Ya!

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | October 1, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

The mccain campaign keeps getting lower and lower. Is there nothing they will stoop to to excuse the pathetic excuse for a running mate mccain chose?
Also, the right wing nutjobs foaming at the mouth that obama is a muslim going to take over the country is beyond laughable. It’s actually frightening that there are so many rigid, narrowminded people in this country.

Posted by: Marlene | October 1, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

“As far as I can see the democrats are more worried about saving a puppy these days then they are preserving human life”…odd thing to say about a guy who sang “bomb bomb bomb Iran” and a VP who says we should attack Russia, we should attack Iran, we should attack Pakistan…hell, let’s attack Canada! thye have oil too! AND odd things to say about a pair who will do NOTHING to get us off oil. Drill drill drill, HOW MUCH will that get us??? I’ll tell you, LESS than 5% ofwhat we need BUT it WILL cost us BILLIONS. I have done R&D for government contracts for military devices for over a decade. Whateveryou throw money and engineering at, we do. GPS, cell phone techonlogy, all thanks to tax payers dollars and R&D awarded contracts. You think we can’t make solar panels for every house? you think we can’t perfect batteries? we went to mars and have pictures to prove it f or God’s sake. WE can do ANYTHING theyask us within some reason a nd getting off oil wouldbe a no brainer IFONLY we had a president who made it his mission, a nd with Obama it is. that is reason #1 whyObama is my choice. He WILL get us off oil and NOTHINGwill save more american lives than NEVER having to worry about oil again.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Wisdom First.
I don’t know if Obama has assigned bloggers or not and neither do you. BUT IF OBAMA CAN TELL ME TO “GET IN MY NEIGHBOR’S FACE” …. HE WILL DO MOST ANYTHING TO GET ELECCTED!!!

Posted by: Temagami | October 1, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

SoWhat – she should disclose this conflict of interest in order lend legitimacy to the debate. Nothing more, as it wouldn’t be relavent.

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

“They can watch the debate tomorrow night and make their own decisions about whether or not I’ve done my job.”
Kinda late then isn’t Gwen? The damage would already be done.
Screw what McCain and Palin says, this is a conflict of interest and unethical journalism. Your reputation and credibility is non existent.
I bought a 12 pack of Corona and some limes for the debate. I was hoping to see some blood. But now, it’s ruined as the whole tone will be unacceptable. We will be more interested in YOUR bias than the candidates performance.
You owe me a 12 pack, silly woman.

Posted by: RoBoTech | October 1, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Just say no,
LOL…That law suit is moving fast to the supreme court ….I am sure Scalia and Thomas will adjudicate on it…hmmm.. I wonder if Palin knows who these fellows are?

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | October 1, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Every citizen in the US is NOT a Christian. It’s not a secret. Get over it. Some have no religion. Get over it. This is America.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Jess,
Palin has no power or ability to make anything regarding women and choice happen.
That is a legislative job.
ie: house/congress
Relax that fear, and get women in the Whitehouse.
If Obama is elected, Hillary will be Mc Cain’s age before she can run, because party always back the current idiot in power. Remember?
Palin 2008
Clinton / Maize Hirano 2012

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

This is a very dangerous spot that McCain had put Palin in this position. If Ifill has already written a book about Obama, she obviously biases on the debate ready. It’s really hot, hot seat.

Posted by: Peter Truong | October 1, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

So the bottom line on all of this seems to me to be that what our pachydermal colleagues really fear is that Ms Ifill will offer Ms Palin ample opportunity to display her ignorance and that their VP wannabee will rise to the bait like a salmon to chum (if in fact salmon rise to chum, me I just eat em any way I find em from sashimi to blackened). It is an amazing feat of dexterity to spin ignorance as strength but then Orwell’s pigs did that in 1984, didn’t they? No, my experience unencumbered friends, Orwell was not Geraldine Ferraro’s debate coach, you could look it up but those pages may never have fallen open before Palin’s gape. So the best that Beavis and Butthead’s boys (the Mccain campaign team) can do is to lower expectations to not mistaking porn for promos. oops, I guess the Mccain sex-ed ads already did that. Well then I say let the best feminist win. Good night and sweet dreams to all!

Posted by: jakewaters | October 1, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Do you think Couric has an affiliation politically? Was that a conflict? Be fair.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Go to mediamatters.org for the whole story with links and a time line. Even Fox news did a story on 7/21/08 that mentions Ifill and her book. I’m sure that ABC News knows the whole story but I guess they want to start a buzz. Shame on ABC News!

Posted by: Vince | October 1, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Read Gun, Germs and Steel and see how women routinely had abortions and it was a very pragmatic decision. Can the family afford teh mother to be out of commission for a nearly a year(usually for nomadic folks this was a big issue) Will there be enough food? Look it up. Abortoin has been going on as long as there have been people. And do tell me, where did Christ say He DID mind? Christ talked about what He cared about. Ofthe three topics he brought up the most Hypocracy, caring for the poor, and caringfor the sick. If Christ wanted us to interfere in abortions or pregnancies He wouldahve said so. He was a pretty cognizant guy. If he wanted you or anyone else to do something about abortion He would have given you that commmand as He DID command us in other ways. He didn’t. So take Christ’s example.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Could people please educate themselves enough to know that the book is not ABOUT Obama, but about the new generation of black politicians (Obama is only one small part of the book). Geez!
Wait. Karl Rove is that you? Thought I recognized your lack of morals in these postings.

Posted by: Mf7226 | October 1, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Fox News has “Bible Lessons for Sarah Palin” in its top stories. Give me a break. Everyone knew who the moderator would be weeks ago and no one had a problem with her. Now they realize Palin can’t put two coherent sentences together that she hasn’t rehearsed beforehand, and they are worried. Plus, it turns out she isn’t exactly “one of us” when she owns 3 homes, a plane, her own professional tanning machine, and makes over $1 million a year. http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1846372,00.html

Posted by: Landers | October 1, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

get women in the Whitehouse…are you out of your little mind? Iwould NEVEr hire a women engineer simply beause she’s a women and I would NEVER vote for a women because she’s a women. I liked Hillary, in some ways, but I’m not hankering for a women in the white house as a matter of principle. But whomever it is NEEDS to be smart as whip because she WILL bejudge much more harshly and I honestly would not want Palin to be my mayor! I do NOT want that dumb bimbo inthe whitehouse. That would be the WORST thing imaginable for this country AND women. AND if she IS president, she possibly picks who the next supreme court justice is,and no thanks to evne think for a second that wack job who wants women to carry the pregnancies of their rape to term should be anywhere near selecting a SPC.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Wow Jess, it sounds like you were talking to him on the phone last week.

Posted by: jET | October 1, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Gwen’s book is written as an informative book about modern and up and coming black leaders. Obama is featured in the book, but so are others. Yeah, she is likely a supporter of Obama, but she is also a professional and can be trusted to be objective in her moderation of the debate. Besides, the debate will be heavily structured with Biden and Palin unable to engage one another so nobody will be able to accuse Gwen of letting Biden “pick on” Palin.
However with this seed now planted, people can have a cop out when Palin predictably deep-sixes herself – blame it on Gwen.

Posted by: kenvick22 | October 1, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Jess – okay, so how about Christ’s Father’s commandment – Thou shalt not kill? Those who are against abortion would argue that this goes directly against these teachings. He said to follow His Father’s teachings. As I said earlier, in certain cases it should be allowed, but it should not be a method of birth control. As far as the book is concerned – we as a society have evolved and many of the reasons that existed in earlier times are no longer relevant

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

McCain will cancel tomorrow’s debate with the excuse that Ifill is biased against Palin. McCain will do anything than showcase this idiot on the national stage.

Posted by: Marlene | October 1, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

wazup … nice try. And besides, if any person has a legitimate reason to doubt love for their country, because they perceive their country does not love them, I would think he/she would be speaking about an Indian or African American and not a White man. If you accept his reasoning, you are at the very least biased in any reasoning not to accept Michelle Obama’s. She did not say she was never proud of her country, she said for the first time she was REALLY proud. Stop spinning the truth.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Oh Jess – Even if by chance she came to be president by some misfortune – she can only nominate someone for the Supreme Court – Congress has the control on the final decision. It’s called separation of powers and keeps the branches balanced.

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

So which is it, John? You say you knew about Ifill’s book and that she’ll be fair, and then you raise questions about her fairness.
Sounds like another recent switch: the economy is fundamentally sound, and then it’s so bad you “suspend” your campaign to rush like Mighty Mouse and save the economy.
I guess Daddy is just getting ready with an excuse for Li’l’ Sarah in case she @#$! up the debate tomorrow.

Posted by: Laura | October 1, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

“Republican Christians for Obama! ”
Now that’s an oxymoron.

Posted by: Wake_Up | October 1, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

Do you think Couric has an affiliation politically? Was that a conflict? Be fair.
Posted by: SoWhat
Good subject.
Charlie and Katie proved their “huge intellect” and savy by asking Palin if Global warming is man made.
Charlie could rush to the North South Pole studies that prove through core samples that magnetic poles have shifted in Earth’s history. He belongs there for the question.
Katie could rocket to the sun and cover the recent disclosure by scientists that for the first time in recorded history, there was a radiation decrease. She wants to be “hot”.
She shows jealousy for Palin’s position.
I would like to hear the journalists reveal the truth about it, and see the documentary of fire and ice.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 1, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

lmao- already laying the “blame” groundwork for the inevitable failure. I can not wait for this debate. As much as Biden sticks his foot in his mouth [like telling the guy in the wheelchair to stand up-lol], he should tear her apart.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson | October 1, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

SoWhat – No, no spin. Some other poster came out and blasted Michelle and then you blasted McCain. Just because someone is white they can’t have a feeling that perhaps their country doesn’t love them? WOW – wake up – we all have different experiences that make us who we are and how we feel about things.

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Obama has my vote because I like what he says about growing the economy based on developing green technologies as Brazil has done and as Denmark has done, using a formerly US company, by the way, that went under When bush and McCain cut it’s funding. Denmark is now nearly energyindependent and their next huge R&D contract is electric cars, in conjuctions with Israel, which will run off, guess what, all their internal wind generated electricity. GEe, why can’t WE have companies to grow like that? we did, we do, but what we do NOT have is a president who will make ithis mission to invest in our future. Do i agree o n all things of Obama, his investment in more engineers and scientist and biologist so we invest in our next generation of steve jobs and bill gates, our next generation of innovators. yeah, i do. Because i idolize him? No, because this was my opinion and he happens to share it. Tehre are other things I’m that much in agreement in, but these two i am. And, someone just called a one month fertilized egg a fetus, no, it’s not a fetus yet.IT’s an embryo, it has no central nervious system, it feels no pain, it feels nothing, has not thoughts, and whether a girl developes it into a baby or not is not of any concern to me a nd surely should not be law. I’m quite sure forcing someoen to use their body to develope a baby against thier will is involuntary servitude and it’s quite unconstitutional. If you want to have forced human puppymills, I don’t know what ot tell you, start your own country. IN this country we are free. slavery or forcing one’s religion on another is not allowed.

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Palin needs to ask Biden why he thinks Hillary would have been better for Obama’s VP since it was Biden who said it. Next she needs to ask why some deomocrats think Biden sometimes says stupid comments that have no value or meaning and finally why doesn’t Obama ever use his middle name and when did he become a muslim.

Posted by: Wayman | October 1, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Seriously…not that I haven’t been. If you were interviewing Palin for a job, and a moderator is significantly in a lesser influential position, and she answered questions the way she did with Couric would you hire her? Would you at least have doubts? If someone else had doubts, you would be critical of that interviewer? Do you know how many Americans have to face the unknowns of their interviewers to get a job?

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

Also, most blacks are voting for Obama because he is black and many have publicly said so. He is also planning on giving blacks reparations and he said so. He has no policies except to tax working Americans to redistribute wealth to the non-working and he has plans to stop defense spending and gut the military. Boy, will that keep us safe. Today his disciples took buses and picked up homeless people to register and vote on the same day. Most of the homeless here are mental patients since our dem governor took over and closed the psychiatric hospital. Now how much help do you think they will need to decide who to vote for. They won’t be voting for the tooth fairy. Someone will tell them who to vote for. What is that called? I think it is voter fraud. They may even give some of them a fifth of gin to vote as they have in the past.

Posted by: margo | October 1, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Read again Wazup – that is NOT what I said.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

God, forgive me. MF7226 accuses me of racism just because I criticize the fact that black people vote Obama mainly for his skin´s colour.
How ridiculous is the puritan political correction of the intolerant extreme-leftish.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | October 1, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

Jess – final question – So, a woman goes out and has unprotected sex and becomes pregnant and it’s okay to just end it because, oops, I made a mistake? Where is the personal accountability in your argument? Just go for the quick fix for stupidity.

Posted by: wazup | October 1, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

“Those who are against abortion would argue that this goes directly against these teachings”…Does birth control go against this? My eggs die every month. When i use birth contorl the only reason why they are dying is because I stopped the sperm from fertilizing them.so, i’m killing them. and my husband is killing his sperm. So, should we outlaw birthcontrol as well? An embryo is an embryo. it’s not a baby. It hasn’t developed into one yet. Is removing the embryo and not developing it considered killing a person? is it a person? Logially, to me, no it’s not. It hasn’t developed into one. Is a 30 week gestation fetus a person, well, ok, maybe it is. If it’s viable, I say yes it’s a person, if it’s not, then I guess it’s not, huh? AGain, this is a RELGIOUS question. You can’t legislate your religion. Why is that so hard for you to see?

Posted by: jess | October 1, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Margo – Obama said no such thing. Don’t make excuses to justify your vote. None is required. Go in the booth and do whatever it is you do. But, don’t lie about reparations or anything else. Yes, I called you a liar. Guess what? You don’t have to lie to vote.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 1, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

The Charlie Gibson interview was more like an interrogation…what a joke! Then ABC has the balls to edit it….disgraceful! As far as Katie..she is just a hack. Lets be honest, Palin is the governor of a state, giving her experience in all branches of government: executive, legislative and judicial. As for a Senator, their job description: swear in a president and write and pass legislation, which Obama has not written anything and mainly voted present.

Posted by: JET | October 2, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

SoWhat posted: “And besides, if any person has a legitimate reason to doubt love for their country, because they perceive their country does not love them, I would think he/she would be speaking about an Indian or African American and not a White man.” Your statement says that a white man could not have the perception that their country does not love them. And if their father was a raging alcholic? Does that establish self-esteem and hope that someone cares?

Posted by: wazup | October 2, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Typical Big Media bias! Why is anyone surprised? Ifill may have a big mouth full of white teeth, but beneath that smile is a vicious partisan hack.

Posted by: SikofIT | October 2, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

“Also, most blacks are voting for Obama because he is black and many have publicly said so..the guy is smart as a whip and has much better ideas. Why w oudl anyone even care what race he is. You sound like one of those people who think all of societies ill are caused by black people like the Nazi’s who thought all of their ills were caused by the jews. Obama is a really smart well educated black person. He probably has more education than you, he is more accomplished than you and he is black! OMG how hard is that to reconcile with your perceived superiority complex over black people! they are supposed to be inferior to you, right??? so how can this be????? well, grow up, get over it. He is smart, he has good ideas, he is black. Sorry that rocks your world. Maybe you need to grow up a little bit.

Posted by: jess | October 2, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

jess,
You take a lot….a whole lot for granted in your generation.
Women made those changes, so you could get that job. A mere generation ago you would have been passed over like an old smelly tuna…no man ever gave us any power. Your problem is the backslide of passing over Hillary for afore stated reason.
Wake up!!!!!
Look at the designer of the Hydrogen bomb ….she never got an accolade for it.
The grater plight is to grant our granddaughters the ability to be the President.
On this course, they will not.
Quit being dumb and selfish…..wise up. It isn’t just all about you.
If you had vetted Obama properly,you would have known why a kid from Hawaii couldn’t grant a woman with a resume any power.
Care to continue to know it all, or would you like some truth about Obama supporters in Hawaii ?
Women for Hillary did vet Obama, and therefore no, anyone doing the homework will not be marking a ballot for him.
Palin 2008.
Hillary Maize Hirano 2012

Posted by: woman citizen | October 2, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

Jess – the polls have said that most blacks are voting for Obama. Period.

Posted by: wazup | October 2, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

wazup …let me spell it out for you. If a White man can have a reason for doubting his country, then why would it be so unreasonable for a person whose country has HISTORICALLY demonstrated oppression and cruelty towards them to POSSIBLY have doubted their love for their country. Having said that, and in the context in which Michelle spoke, I have no doubt she loves this country.

Posted by: SoWhat | October 2, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

If you were the boss, who would you hire???
OBAMA: Harvard law professor, Juris Doctor of law degree, constitutional law expert, Senate committees: foreign affairs, homeland security, veterans affairs, family, education, health.
BIDEN: Juris Doctor of law degree, Senate committees: Foreign affairs (chair), economy, health, crime, women’s affairs, education, technology, environment
McBUSH: graduated from the naval academy in the bottom 5% of his class, senate committees: economy, environment, official conduct (arguably the 3 biggest Republican failures!!!!!!!!!)
PITBULL PALIN: went to 6 different universities before finally getting a BA degree in journalism, no domestic or foreign policy experience but can see Russia from her house.
SERIOUSLY, THIS IS A NO BRAINER!!!!
If you vote McBush/Pitbull, the fate of your country will be in jeopardy. Everyone here in Europe is laughing at Americans— America has become the butt of all jokes— people are asking, how can they seriously consider voting for McBush and his Pitbull for another 4 years of Bush’s failed policies? Don’t they ever learn???
Remember the frontpage headline of London’s Daily Mirror newspaper back in 2004 when Americans re-elected Bush: HOW CAN 59 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO DUMB?

Posted by: kate buckingham | October 2, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

McCain’s friends
George Bush and what’s her name Palin.
Enough said

Posted by: democratic | October 2, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

SoWhat – Let me spell it out for you. I have never said anything against Michelle – go back and read the posts – you need to pay attention.

Posted by: wazup | October 2, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

I have looked into the Keating 5 information and after reading several different sites, if McCain was cleared of any wrongdoing, where is the scandal?
Is this just one more thing we get to talk about since he isn’t “our guy”? Is there a Democrat out there (I’m Independent) who would be honest and say that if Obama was at McCain’s involvement, he/she would not think it was a big deal?

Posted by: jchilman | October 2, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

No ‘real’ American, particularly one that can read (as in the US Constitution), would vote for that Marxist fraud called Obama. He is a baby-killing maniac, a leech, and a disgusting hypocrit. I hope he rots in the hell hole he crawled out of.

Posted by: SicOfIt | October 2, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

“Women made those changes, so you could get that job”..I got my job becaues i got an education, a REALLY HARD Education and they handed me a test like they handed everyone a test and I did better than the others. Period. I would never WANT a job that I didn’t do better than theother candidates. And having a DUMB women in a position is a HUGE mistake for women. NO, this isn’t about me, it’s about the country. You want to not be selfish then pick the most qualified person for the job. She’s as dumb as a stone, always has been, and i hate her ideas. I would never vote for such a religious freak who wants women to carry the pregnanies of rape to term (you really must be a little crazy, no kidding on this, you MUST have some form of mental illness to have this be your position) and thinks that drilling for 5% of our oil needs without investing in green technologies is a good idea. I would have voted for Romney over HIllary, but as soon as I heard Obama’s energy plan he had my vote. I will vote for whomever makes the most sense and is smart. period.

Posted by: jess | October 2, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

kate – you ASSUME that if someone is voting for McCain that they voted for Bush. Just like others could assume if a person is voting for Obama they voted for Kerry. Be careful – that’s where you lose people in your arguments.

Posted by: wazup | October 2, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

If this isn’t a huge conflict of interest then I can’t begin to imagine what is. This is getting real tiresome!
my faith in almost any part of the mainstream media is shot and I avoid reading any of the leftwingnut trash they publish or put on TV. As far as watching any of the trash on the alphabet networks, I simply avoid it and PBS is no better. Fox news and some of the major websites still seem to do pretty well. Indeed little difference is seen between the far left media and Pravda!

Posted by: Craig Cannon | October 2, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Another brazen act to insure Obama Bin Biden Al Muslim gets elected.

Posted by: Al Heffe | October 2, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Russia is two miles from Alaska if you go in the ocean.

Posted by: margo | October 2, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

kate buckingham,
Go join a branch of the military, serve with honor and then re-read your post.
You got big talk, so try to run for political office someplace.
Have you vetted Obama and his history in Hawaii?
Do you know the backers of his there?
Until you have a clue, why listen to you?

Posted by: woman citizen | October 2, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Jess – so, if someone doesn’t have the big fancy degree they are unintelligent? Only those that went to school and got a big education understand how things should work? WOW. Now I understand why you are voting for Obama – you are as arrogant as he is.

Posted by: wazup | October 2, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Sorry that didn’t sound right. Russia territory begins two miles from Alaska im the ocean.

Posted by: margo | October 2, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Nite all! Can’t find my wading boots.

Posted by: wazup | October 2, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

“Where is the personal accountability in your argument? Just go for the quick fix for stupidity”…is this is question about laws? I’m confused. have we agreed that making abortion illegal is absurd? ok, let’s assume that. for your question, what do I feel about the girl who has casual unprotected sex and gets pregnant. She’s dumb. I Think casual sex is dumb. I thnk it happens and if you get alot of abortoins the likelihood you hurt your insides gets pretty high. NAtural consequences for stupid behavior. In my experience, all the girls i knew,not that many, but of the ones I knew who got abortoins they were in long term relationships and getting the abortion was hard and upsetting. they learned. I only know of one perosn who got two abortoisn and yes, she was little soft and constantly chose loser boyfriends who abused her, but her father was a drunk and abused her and I think it took her a long time to seeherself as something that has value. Do i judge her? Hell no. I never lived herlife. I had a great dad. It’s not my place. and you know, it’s not your place either. She will live with her demons. Let’s all stay out of it. I’m sure , I honestly am, in my heart, I am sure that is where God wants us to be, out of it. Goodnight. Good talking to you.

Posted by: jess | October 2, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Barack Obama an African American was interviewed during one of his debates by a Hillary Clinton advisor, so what Palin a woman being is interviewed by a Obama supporter who is an African American and a woman! I wonder who jim Lehrer supported, or all the others who interviewed Barack Obama during his 22 debates!I guess 21 of them said they were undecided! John Mccain is injecting racial politics again! Basically, he is saying directly and indirectly an African American woman cannot be objective, just white men and white women!

Posted by: Every Wilson | October 2, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Obama for President.
bush for prison.
palin for stupid.
mccain for old.
Obama for President.

Posted by: democratic | October 2, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Any moron with half a brain knows Senator bin Biden is an old school Washington insider for the last quarter century–oh, yes, change –maybe his hair plugs and yellow teeth caps –come on; he is a class A jerk!

Posted by: SiCofIt | October 2, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

John McCain is not injecting racial politics into this. He stated that he holds Gwen Ifill in high regards as a professional journalist. Personally, I feel that with this book deal the debate could be slanted…hopefully its not, but it sure is generating a lot of controversy.

Posted by: JET | October 2, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

SiCrofIt
Please stop with the humor…..I almost wet myself laughing at you.

Posted by: democratic | October 2, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

the only way this will be biased if Gwen asks Joe: how does it feel to give birth?
this is dumb, they will both get the same questions…

Posted by: matt | October 2, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Jess,
Only two generations of college students ago there were no smart cookies who worked hard and got great grades?
Clueless.
It was in 1996 at the NOW convention in Las Vegas, that Bella Savitsky Abzug rolled her wheel chair up on the stage and said she didn’t know What they are so afraid of, we haven’t goit enough power yet to learn how to corrupt it.
Do women have enough power yet to corrupt it?
Those women who want to test that of all reaces, are voting Palin in.
You may think yourself quite the smart girl, but I promise you your ballot idea isn’t.
By the way the first water car drove around in the form of a riding lawn mower in the early 1970′s. It was a closed redundant system whose fuel was water, and by product was water.
In the early 1980′s newsprint along with stuble from fields was made into denatured alcohol for fuel enmasse,in
Iowa. Why isn’t it on the market?
It was taxed as whole grain consumable alcohol, because POLITICS and elected officials refused to legislate on it as vialble.
Sometimes life is actually just about the politics ….get over it.
You got your job because you could have made a stink about gender bias, and yes Jess, other people are really smarter than you.
They at least know what a subliminal inserted into e-mails and music is.
When you wake up from your Obama stupor you will appreciate what I just told you.
Your welcome in advance.
Take a flight to Alaska for a week, become a savy voter.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 2, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Silly and shameful!!!!
The McCain Campaign offers fresh feed to the herd and the sound resonating is is BAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
The book was already referenced by the AP BEFORE the McCain Campaign agreed to Ifill (google the book, AP and July) – NOW, one day before the VP debate, Mccain advisors claim ignorance. Sorry. We know exactly how they operate – directly from inside their sleeves. Don’t be fooled by their feigned surprise.
The book is NOT about Obama – read up on it! It is historical and the references to Obama haven’t even been penned yet!
The McCain camp are eliciting ONLY crocodile tears: using the BOOK is the defining CLUE that Ifill just might be predisposed for supporting Obama. Oh my! It never occuured to me!
Every person – every journalist or reporter will have a personal OPINION. The difference is defined by professionalism – can one be impartial when called upon to do so. What a despicable insult to a lifelong journalist with an impeccable record that the McCain Campaign has leveraged for their own benefit.
The fact is, as a moderator, the public will have to watch and listen to determine if bias exists. It will be clear ONLY in the end.
And, in the end, both Biden and Palin will be RESPONSIBLE for their answers to ANY given questions!!!

Posted by: Libratine | October 2, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Any moron with half a brain knows Senator bin Biden is an old school Washington insider for the last quarter century–oh, yes, change –maybe his hair plugs and yellow teeth caps –come on; he is a class A jerk!
Posted by: SiCofIt
He would make a much better President than B. Hussein O.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 2, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

What’s all this BS about african american.
If your born here you are an american.
If you are born in africa then move here you and become a citizen you are an american citizen who was born in africa. Who cares!
Take pride in America and quit trying to water in down with all this PC garbage. Don’t be such morons.
My ancestors were from Norway. Big Deal!
I am an American first and foremost!!

Posted by: lee | October 2, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

Democrap,Someone has to injected a little humour into it; the thread is getting boring –speaking of boring  –the Pres. debate about put my in coma.  Both guys suck!  I am reluctantly voting McCain –at least he has a ounce of integrity and a bit of passion  –Osbama has about as much personality and vigor as Madam Albright working a street corner.

Posted by: SiKofIt | October 2, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

wc, the disservice you do to competent and qualified candidates who, among their other strong and relevant qualifications, are also our mothers, daughters or sisters, sets the cause that my grandmother and my great aunts fought for by 100 years. Just you go and vote for nanook’s life partner because I have offended you in your own ignorance. You and your 2K disciples, that will skew the demographics on Guam some serious, good thing I didn’t insult albatrosses too. That might really be a problem.
jake waters
Vietnam era Vet,
father of an active service member
member local draft board
elected democrat

Posted by: jakewaters | October 2, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Let’s see. The Republican initiated investigation of Palin is a witch hunt. A debate moderator who wrote a book about politics (as almost all journalist do) is biased before the debate even begins.
In addition to being senile, McCain is paranoid at well.
Instead of “The buck stops here”, his motto as POTUS would be “It’s everybody’s else’s fault but mine.”

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

You know, I have just about had it with those two. First they thought that Charles Gibson’s interview was too tough on Palin. Then they complained that Katie Couric was too liberal and too hard. Then they sent John McCain in to clean up that mess, only to let Sarah give one more convoluted answer about the Supreme Court. I am beginning to think that they would object to Snow White if she were going to be the moderator for the debate. McCain, grow up, and Sarah, if you can’t stand the heat, then get the living daylights OUT of this race!!!

Posted by: Colleen | October 2, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

Come on……I can’t believe that nothing was said about the moderator for the Presidential candidate debate and that he must be bias. It is so evident that because this moderator is black she must be bias. Well….it takes one to know one. It is so immature to make it seem as though some one is picking on Palin. She can really dish it out, let’s see if she can take it.

Posted by: Tina Smith | October 2, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

The moderator will ask the questions that other people created. And she does not answer them. So save the excuses for Palin’s getting slammed.

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

I’ve seen Obama’s forged birth certificate on the internet that his people produced to “prove’ he was born in Hawaii. You can check several websites for yourself (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html and elsewhere). His allleged certificatte of live birth has been thoroughly examined by forensic document experts and has been determined to be DEFINITELY a forgery. So all of the arguements as to whether Obama has enough experience, questions about his associations with radicals and communists, and all of his many other shortcomings are really moot: the man cannot prove that he is a natural born U.S. citizen, part of his family in Kenya says he was born there, and therefore Obama is ineligible to occupy the office of the U.S. presidency even if he wins by a landslide in the electoral college . The DNC didn’t do its due diligence and now they have a person running at the top of their ticket who’s ineligible – unless the country wants to scrap the constitution between now and January 20th. Obama may have 95% the MSM “fronting” for him, but he still cannot legally be president. And that’s a FACT.

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

“”because again, that will make us work that much harder and that provides even more fairness and objectivity and choices for the voters on November 4th, if we try that much harder.”"
—————————-
Is English her 2nd language?

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

I am so over John McCain. I never thought at the end of this campaign I would have lost so much respect for him. I have genuinely thought both candidates were at least good men, so are trying to be honest and forthright in this campaign. They both seemed different then normal politicians, but recently McCain has been using typical ploys. Complaining about sexism, and bias…blatantly lying about issues and spinning the facts more than possible. Flip flopping on damn near everything depending on how the polls are reflecting. Now I realize that the Dem candidate has his flaws. I personally wanted Clinton to win, but honestly I have grown more respect for Obama with the way he has carried himself during this election and I think he has been a good representation for America. Poor McCain. He has lost himself.

Posted by: Ohplease! | October 2, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

I like Gwen Ifill, from what I’ve seen of her on TV,but if she is as ethical as many people believe, then why didn’t she come forward and volunteer this information regarding the obvious conflict of interest she has by moderating this debate. Evidently she’s not what believe she is.

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

If you were the boss, who would you hire???
OBAMA: Harvard law professor, Juris Doctor of law degree, constitutional law expert, Senate committees: foreign affairs, homeland security, veterans affairs, family, education, health.
BIDEN: Juris Doctor of law degree, Senate committees: Foreign affairs (chair), economy, health, crime, women’s affairs, education, technology, environment
McBUSH: graduated from the naval academy in the bottom 5% of his class, senate committees: economy, environment, official conduct (arguably the 3 biggest Republican failures!!!!!!!!!)
PITBULL PALIN: went to 6 different universities before finally getting a BA degree in journalism, no domestic or foreign policy experience but can see Russia from her house.
SERIOUSLY, THIS IS A NO BRAINER!!!!
If you vote McBush/Pitbull, the fate of your country will be in jeopardy. Everyone here in Europe is laughing at Americans— America has become the butt of all jokes— people are asking, how can they seriously consider voting for McBush and his Pitbull for another 4 years of Bush’s failed policies? Don’t they ever learn???
Remember the frontpage headline of London’s Daily Mirror newspaper back in 2004 when Americans re-elected Bush: HOW CAN 59 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO DUMB?

Posted by: kate buckingham | October 2, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

The Democrats, like all liberals, are good at one thing: blaming the victim!

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

petee: Please go to factcheck.org to see the real birth certificate. It is real. It is not fake. Please stop spreading ridiculous propaganda.

Posted by: Ohplease! | October 2, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

“if McCain is not fit to be president, the other 43 were not also.”
Finally, a Republican who is seeing the light. After 232 years of presidential elites who have cynically “duped” the working class (with a few exeptions – you fill in the blanks), culminating in the super “duper” of them all – Bush, its about time you all came to your senses.

Posted by: Markfromatlanta | October 2, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

petee – I like Gwen Ifill too, but remember that the book isn’t a “pro-obama” book, but rather an informative book regarding current and up and coming black political leaders. Of course she is what we believe she is – a journalist, and she will be fair and objective in the debate but I am sure that many people will read hostility toward poor Palin into her no matter what she does.

Posted by: Kenvick22 | October 2, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

jakewaters,
Playing party boy when the Country should not be surrendering to enemies of the State, just doesn’t fly.
If you are an elected candidate, then I assume you would take the time to Vet the candidates.
Hawaii the land of the corrupt, and barely America claims B. O.
Dubious at best, he has a claim of birth there. Many others state he was not and provide good evidence to support their claim.
Running against a guy born in Panama.
In WWII no one asked Americans to vote for a guy with a Japanese last name.
It is just the good ole American way.
The idea of keeping your enemies closer than your friends doesn’t apply to the Oval Office.
The ballot boxes are interesting items for scrutiny these days, but still, one has the choice in a semi private manner to cast a vote.
When that vote is ignored and a super ideal takes over, something has gone very wrong with democracy.
Shame on our generation.
The book the moderator wrote endorsing Obama should be mentioned up front. Bias is bias.

Posted by: woman citizen | October 2, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Gov Palin will do just fine in the debate. She will be a breath of fresh air for our country as our VP when McCain is elected as POTUS.
The moderator definitely has a conflict of interest problem as does the debate commission who didn’t vet her. Let’s hope they replace her with Greta!

Posted by: BreathofFreshAir | October 2, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

pette: I also don’t think people in the upper 5 percent of the income bracket are the victims, do you? Or should we ask their CEO friends on Wall Street?

Posted by: Ohplease! | October 2, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

The AP ran an article on her book on July 23rd. The McCain campaign agreed to her being the moderator in the first week of August. Time Magazine ran an article mentioning her book in August.
If the McCain campaign did not know about this until now, it raises other questions about their competence. Try googling her and see what comes up. Maybe they should have vetted their moderators more thoroughly. Come to think of it, maybe she got as much vetting as Sarah Palin.
Ahh…that’s the beauty when you pride yourself on making decisions as quickly as possible and living with (whining about) the consequences. Shoot from the hip McCain!
Can’t wait to see what he would do for the country if he gets elected and starts shooting from the hip. At least as a Senator, his shoot from the hip ideas don’t go into legislation unless the majority of other senators agree with him. Shoot from the hip all day long, only those ideas that pass the sanity test of your peers actually affect someone. HOWEVER, as President, he has powers that are not moderated by others, and his shoot from the hip gambling will affect and cost the American public.
Think about it…

Posted by: Kirk from Seattle | October 2, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

I am an Obama supporter and think Gwen Ifill is a responsible journalist, but I believe she should be dropped and replaced by Ed Rollins or someone like him. Biden can handle himself even with a responsible conservative moderator and then McCain-Palin won’t have the “liberal media” devil to blame for whatever may happen.

Posted by: Joel Miller | October 2, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

woman citizen,
Well said. I don’t think Obama has been subjected to a background check. And from what I’ve heard about how one is scrutized, he wouldn’t likely pass if he was.
It’s like being in a nightmare don’t you think?
Maybe it’s the decline of our educational system that causes people to make such poor decisions.

Posted by: BreathofFreshAir | October 2, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

I now recall some words of wisdome from Schiller about those not effectively argued against. Dont forget to take your meds again, wc, god bless.

Posted by: jakewaters | October 2, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

“Gov Palin will do just fine in the debate. She will be a breath of fresh air ”
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That always cracks me up. She is a breath of fresh air in the same way that a plumber performing brain surgery would be a breath of fresh air.

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

My question is this….knowing that this debate was planned long before now, why all of a sudden this issue comes up pertaining to Ifill? One day before the debate? Something is so wrong here.

Posted by: Simple4life | October 2, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

McCain has ZERO presidential qualities about him. This is Senator Obama he has a hard time being cordial with! Can you imagine ANY form of diplomacy with leaders he actually feels are evil… Russia, Iran, N., Korea, Venezuela… shall I go on… because the GOP have alienated the USA to MOST of the world now… I could only imagine the insulting demeanor McCain would bring to those tables… he doesn’t even have the BALLS to act “nice” with Senator Obama… I think even GWB would do that. He is NOT presidential, but rather an angry OLD MAN who knows in his heart of hearts that he will NEVER live to be president… and THAT folks is the crux of that bitter biscuit he gnaws on constantly.

Posted by: McCain is a Bitter Old Man | October 2, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

No one has anything to say about Obama’s policies, but you are all quick to call him Osama, or bin Biden, or use his middle name in some lame attempt to scare everyone. Grow up you bigots. Seriously. You wanna talk about policy, then go right on ahead. Stop the damn b*llsh!t chain emails and posting links from sources that aren’t even remotely credible. Get your heads out of your collective a$$es and start talking about the damn issues. What are you so afraid of? That you lose in an issue only debate?

Posted by: Ohplease! | October 2, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

This is just McCain posturing Palin incase she screws-up. They have know for month about Gwen Ifill’s book but they decide it’s an issue NOW. It’s just another gimmick from McGimmick and company.

Posted by: The Unshrub | October 2, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

BreathofFreshAir – Of course Obama has been subjected to background checks, just like any politician. Yes, the educational system has declined, but the fact that Bush and his posse have flushed our future down the toilet AND the fact the McCain isn’t too aware of the problem while Obama is has led people into Obama’s camp. Besides, talk about the educational system, Palin would have creationism taught in science class next to evolution THEORY. Would that be a decline or what?

Posted by: kenvick22 | October 2, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

This is so funny. Why is it we heard nothing from the Conservatives regarding the bias of the “Faith Conference” or whatever that farce was called?
You people are so pathetic………

Posted by: dk | October 2, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

“Well said. I don’t think Obama has been subjected to a background check.”
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Another good one. Mccain has thoroughly checked out Obama down to how often Obama changes his underwear.
I guess McCain should hire posters from here who have the “secret scoop”.
Who needs Comedy Central, when you have these boards.

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Simple4life: The problem is Gwen Ifill didn’t make known the obvious conflict of interest that she has. It took others to find out and unfortunately that didn’t happen until now. It’s Ifill’s fault – no one else’s.

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

People, be careful! All over the blogs there are traces of ‘Plants’ that attempt to stir opinion for either the right or the left. Watch for the mispellings that look contrived. Watch for the no response when challanged. Don’t get caught up in debating talking points that are old or already proven false.
Shu

Posted by: JShimota | October 2, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Breathoffreshair: Why in the world do you think Obama hasn’t had a background check? Of course he has. Every single politician has. You act like only you an some random weirdos, are the only ones who have cracked the case on the mystery. As, if you know something no one else knows. Why can’t you just be normal and not full of such unwarranted fear?

Posted by: Ohplease! | October 2, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

It sounds as if McCain might use this as an excuse to delay the debate. He knows Palin will be a disaster.
Notice how sexist McCain is? Would he be protecting and hiding away a male VP nominee? He really does think women are c–ts to be used.

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Hey SuKoffIt, I am not sure if you are a redneck, bigot, dummy or all of the above, but why don’t you cut the crap posts, or can you discuss things at all intelligently?

Posted by: Kenvick22 | October 2, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Biden is going to BBQ Palin tomorrow night. I almost feel sorry for her… my guess is that she will CRY for the sympathy vote… or …wait… she will act INSULTED as if Biden is attacking her womanhood… it will come down to some SUPERFICIAL defense… I urge you all to LISTEN to her responses… Biden is going to BBQ her and then divvy her up for the audience… I can smell there’s gonna be a FEAST!

Posted by: Mr Biden, dinner is served! | October 2, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Shu, good point. A lot of people here post ridiulous lies hoping they will stick on someone.

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

you’re correct. After the debate Palin and McCain will be complaining about the tough questions.
Well, being POTUS will involve a lot tougher situations than any faced in a debate or interwiew.

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Petee, that is an interesting comment, conflict of interest. Who’s conflict of interest are we speaking of? Do you not think that she can do a fair and just job because she wrote a book about how black’s are now changing their ways of being political? Help me to understand what is the root issue here. The way I see it, if the candidates are up on their game, then it will not matter who will be come the moderator.

Posted by: Simple4life | October 2, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

What twit that is not gay, would even consider voting for Hussein Obama.  Another reason why women should never be allowed to vote, they’re too gullable.  He has got to be pervert.  The dude is mudpacker-lover and pro-homo marriage. What a disgrace!  If he is elected, it will only be because of voter fraud again; as most Americans are not stupid enough to vote him in.  If he gets in; it is likely to cause CivilWar #2.

Posted by: QbammaizQwweer | October 2, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

kenvick22: The problem isn’t just the book that Gwen Ifill is in the process of writing (and no one knows it’s contents, since no one has read it yet): it’s also the fact that she wrote a glowing report on Obama and family for Essence Magazine in addition to the fact that she had hardly a good word to say about Sarah Palin after her speech at the Republican Convention (and Gwen reportedly “made faces” that indicated her disapproval of what had been said). In short, she is obviously not only biased, but she has a clear financial interest (in book sales) if Obama wins. Gwen Ifill has simply proven to be unethical by not letting the debate committee know of her conflict of interest. I’m disappointed in her but not surprised.

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

After Charlie Gibson and Dan Rather, should we be surprised?

Posted by: Oonogil | October 2, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Simple4Life: Gwen Ifill’s conflict of interest is in the fact that she has a financial stake in Obama winning the election: her book will sell more copies! Her lack of ethics is in the fact that she didn’t let anyone on the debate committee know that she has a conflict of interest. It’s pretty clear.

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES AND MANIPULATIONS.
THE REPUBLICANS WERE INFORMED 3 MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE BOOK AND THE TITLE.
THEY AGREED TO HAVE HER AS A MODERATOR. THEY WERE THINKING TO DO THIS ALL ALONG.
REPUBLICAN LIE AND LIE WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM.
PINOCCHIO IS MORE HONEST THAN REPUBLICANS.
DEMOCRATS FOR 09′

Posted by: V. | October 2, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

Kenvick22,
Iz you gots sumtin’ against Rednecks? You must be one dem bigots. Tain’t nuttin wrong wit bein’ a hick. It be us to bail yo wimpyass out of a fire fight wit da folks dat wonts to take your bible and guns and money and give if to lazy do nuttin’ Al ‘I like ice cream’ Sharpton and his other black buffoons.

Posted by: SicOfIt | October 2, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

IT IS NO ONE FAULT THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE AN INEPT VICE-PRESIDENT.
THEY LIE WHEN THEY SAY THEY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE BOOK.
IT’S BEEN ON LINE FOR 4 MONTH TO BE RESERVED.
THEY DID THIS SCAM ON PURPOSE: TO BE ABLE TO DISCREDIT A BLACK WOMAN.
THIS IS TRULY EMBARRASSING.
BUT WITH REPUBLICANS ANYTHING GOES.
DEMOCRATS FOR 09′

Posted by: V | October 2, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

And what is so bad about selling more copies? Isn’t that every writer’s dream? Maybe if she sells enough of them, she can donate the money to the Hill to help clear some of that &700B + debt that we just received! And if you look again, if Obama wins, I am sure that she will make over $250,000 off the book, which will be taxed heavily. And regarding the ethics of this issue, I am sure that the debate committee was fully aware of the book that she wrote. Had that been an issue, I would like to think that somebody on that committe would have said something about it way before today.

Posted by: Simple4life | October 2, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

The point is not merely that Gwen Ifill may be biased: she has a conflict of interest – because she will personally benefit financially if Obama wins the election. She should have let the debate committee know about it long ago and should have bowed out.

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

Sicofit…why are you talking like that? Are you alright?

Posted by: Simple4life | October 2, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

DEMOCRAT AGRUEMENT:
WHAA,WHAA,WOE IS ME, WHAA, WHAA, CRY, SNIFFLE, OH, GIVE ME YOUR MONEY, WHAA, CRY, SNIFFLE, LIFE IS NOT FAIR, WHAA,
I NEED A HANDOUT, WHAA, CRY, SNIFFLE, YES, I WILL TRADE FREEDOM FOR A DIME, WHA, WHA, WHA,
DEMOCRATS ARE EVIL!!!! SCUMBAGS!!!

Posted by: Diedre | October 2, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

“I am sure that the debate committee was fully aware of the book that she wrote. Had that been an issue, I would like to think that somebody on that committe would have said something about it way before today.”
You are wrong Simple4life:
Republicans are doing this on purpose. They planned it all along. Most black people are for Obama and so they were thinking in building racial tension all along.
Republicans knew it from the start of this book because it was posted online for months. You can reserve a copy.
It is unfortunate but Karl Rove’s disciples are the mastermind of McCain’s team.
This was done on purpose, it is not a coincidence.

Posted by: nothing but lies | October 2, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Thanks petee for the reply. True enough, she wrote for Essence Magazine, and also true, she didn’t have much to say about Palin after the RNC – then again the only ones who really did were those who were biased in their own right. As far as her financial interest in the book is concerned, I don’t think she would have to worry whether or not Obama wins, as the book does include a number of others such as Colin Powell. I myself wouldn’t go so far as to consider any of this a conflict of interest. ANY potential debate moderator could be considered to have a conflict of interest in SOME way, whether it be Brokaw, Stephanopolous, Blitzer, Hannity, Beck, Rivera, or Ifill. Gwen “reportedly” made faces – that’s heresay unless you saw it for yourself. It has no weight. People will read anything into any facial expression if they are biased enough.

Posted by: kenvick22 | October 2, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Petee, please stop it. That is why people writes books, to make a profit. Authors do it all the time. She is going to profit off the book whether or not Obama wins or loses. Good Lord, if it bothers you so much, just pay her what you think she will make and I bet she will take it off the shelf.

Posted by: Simple4life | October 2, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

nothing but lies…I have to agree with you that this is some type of tactic.

Posted by: Simple4life | October 2, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

All,
I confess, you are right; Obama does suck. I will vote Republican this year. You have convince me that I was out of my mind to think that Democrats would ever be normal. The party has been hijack by complete commies. I will repent.

Posted by: Kenvick | October 2, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Sicofit – I would definately quit while your ahead…

Posted by: kenvick22 | October 2, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Just another attempt by McCain and cronies to low ball expectations on Palin’s debate performance and preblame the media.
McCain camp and their negotiators approved all aspects of this debate in early September.
Nice try! Palin still is going to have to demonstrate that she can be coherent and substantive on issues and ready to be president on Day 1! Given her recent string of interviews this is doubtful at best!

Posted by: KatiaK | October 2, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

Haha! Nice one “kenvick”. Doesn’t quite work though.

Posted by: kenvick22 | October 2, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Simpleton4Life:
It is all a vast right wing conspiracy! There is someone hiding in the woodpile too! Come on! Get a brain.

Posted by: SiKofIt | October 2, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

I see all the repukes are on again tonite. When are you morons going to get it thru your thick heads its all over. Repukes have lost the election for President and in the House. All over this great country, repukes are drooping like flys. Come Novenber 4th, you people can start looking for another job, yours is over and done with. Obama has this by a landslide with at least 320 in the Electoral Vote. Whine all you want, attack all you want, throw out all the smears and lies you want. Nothing is going to change the outcome because Americans know the difference between sleazy,lying hypocrits like MaCain/Palin and the rest of you repukes, to someone who will lead this country to a better tomorrow and a better standing in the world. Enough people have died and suffered for all these crooks who got richer and richer and the rest of America has struggled every damn day. They are running scared that their day at the trough is over. Time to pay the piper. I hope all repukes who had anything to do with this illegal war ends up in jail, starting with Bush and Cheney

Posted by: My Name is NoBody | October 2, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

Kenvick22,
I did not want to plagerize your copywrite; hence, I dropped the ’22′

Posted by: SiKofit | October 2, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

petee:
What is your problem? She is going to ask questions that SOMEONE ELSE came up with. And she will keep them on time.
That’s it! It’s not an interview.
If McCain wants someone else, I suspect he can get someone else. But HE DOESN’T WANT TO GET SOMEONE ELSE. He prefers to have someone he can whine about later.

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

What will the socialist do when their boy gets his leftist butt kicked to the corner in November?  Will they cry, yell the sky is falling, moan the world is turned upside down, weep incessently, and gnash their teeth? No, they will claim that some dangle chad was not counted or some poor folk did not understand how to work the pen.  Obama is the most incompetent fool to ever stand for office –and he is going down hard…

Posted by: QbamaIzQwweer | October 2, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

What will the socialist do when their boy gets his leftist butt kicked to the corner in November?  Will they cry, yell the sky is falling, moan the world is turned upside down, weep incessently, and gnash their teeth? No, they will claim that some dangle chad was not counted or some poor folk did not understand how to work the pen.  Obama is the most incompetent fool to ever stand for office –and he is going down hard…

Posted by: QbamaIzQwweer | October 2, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

McCain is getting sleazier everyday. In his desperation, he is trying to smear anyone and anything that do not flatter him. He is trying to take down everybody with him.
This is your ‘hero’?

Posted by: Zeke | October 2, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

If you can’t see that this is a conflict of interest you are a moron.

Posted by: FormerDemocrat | October 2, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

I AM A LOYAL AMERICAN, THAT IS WHY I AM VOTING REPUBLICAN. THEY STAND FOR FREEDOM, LIBERTY, JUSTICE, FAMILY, FAITH, AND TRANQUILITY. DEMOCRATS STAND FOR ABORTING CHILDREN, DIVORCE, DRUGS, CRIME, GODLESSNESS, PERVERSION, FREELOADING, HYPOCRACY, FRAUD, AND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS EVIL AND DESTRUCTIVE.

Posted by: My Name is Nobody | October 2, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

Obama’s policies? I’ve been following the election closely and still have no clue as to his ‘policies’ other than what I can gather from having read the Communist Manifesto. Basically, tax working people and give the money to those who don’t pay taxes including illegal immigrants. Erm-hmm…something about being nice to Europe. Other than that, I don’t know.
Here’s my health care plan-every household and business (that grosses 50K or over) pays $150 a month to their local hospital. Whether you have an ingrown toe nail or a brain tumor, the MDs get paid the same salary anyway. Do the math.
That solved-if the debate tonight was a canoe race, Biden would get an outboard and Palin would get a cardboard paddle.
Unlike the all-knowing Liberals around here, I have no crystal ball (and don’t believe in pyramid power, either), but I have the feeling that Obama, Biden and the MSM have been played big time. “Once bitten, twice shy?”
Palin/Jindal ’12

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 2, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

McCain is getting sleazier everyday. In his desperation, he is trying to smear anyone and anything that do not flatter him. He is trying to take down everybody with him.
This is your ‘hero’?
Here is a perfest example of the Democratic Party. A bunch of ignorant people who don’t know what they are talking about and the bias is clear as day. When I listen to obama all I hear is cheap talk because he does not have any experience or a record to be called on. At least McCain has a record. When I listen to him what he says reflects his record. I would not gamble on cheap talk for the presidency.

Posted by: kcell | October 2, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

This just smells like even more racism coming out of the McCain camp. Being black does not mean you are for Obama. I have many black friends who are going to vote for McCain. This is akin to calling someone not very smart or a liar just because they never pick-up on the fact that their pastor was a racist after only 20 years in the Wright tank.

Posted by: Near Idaho | October 2, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

Graniteman: “[I watch a lot of PBS and it has been clear to me that Gwen Ifill is totally infatuated with Sen. Obama. She should not be moderating the VP debate. Would the Obama campaign accept Sean Hannity as moderator? I think not].”
and;
Lisa: “[Here's why she isn't a "legal" moderator. She is far from impartial.
Gwen Ifill, the supposedly “impartial” moderator of Thursday’s vice presidential debate, is in fact the author of an upcoming book that expresses admiration for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Her book "Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama," sheds 'new light' on Obama and other 'emerging young African-American politicians' who are 'forging a bold new path to political power,' according to the official promo for the book, scheduled for release on Inauguration Day, Jan. 20.
Ifill, an anchor on the Public broadcasting Service program “Washington Week,” did not return a phone call from WorldNetDaily asking if her book’s success 'would be expected should Obama lose,' WND reported.
But in an online video promoting the book, the African-American newswoman states that she is enthusiastic about 'taking the story of Barack Obama and extending it.'
Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin expressed outrage over Ifill’s selection as moderator.
'Ifill and her publisher are banking on an Obama/Biden win to buoy her book sales,' she wrote.
'Try as she might to deflect questions about her impartiality, her biases — and her conflict of interest — are clear'…
'My dictionary defines "moderator" as the ‘nonpartisan officer of a town meeting. On Thursday, PBS anchor Gwen Ifill will serve as moderator for the first and only vice presidential debate'…
'But there is nothing "moderate" about where Ifill stands on Barack Obama. She’s so far in the tank for the Democrat presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running out.'
Malkin pointed out that Ifill recently wrote a 'fawning cover story' about Barack and Michelle Obama for Essence magazine.
It's been reported that John McCain did not know about Ifill’s book and the campaign “should have been told before the campaign agreed to have her moderate. It simply is not fair — in law, this would create a mistrial.]”
I noticed the bias in PBS reporting during the Democrat Party Primary (and it wasn’t just Ifill). Gwen Ifill (along with most of her fellow journalists) was clearly pro Senator Obama for months (throughout the entire election process).
I was so appalled by the slanted reporting by PBS that I did NOT renew my membership with PBS earlier this past April. I have written to PBS to inform them of that fact. I am so disappointed with their total bias in the Presedential Campaign that I can no longer support them financially (I contributed significantly to PBS for many years). I am hoping that PBS will come to their senses but that would take a lot of self realization and reflection. I think that most all of the PBS journalists have bought into the belief that the “means justifies the ends” and they want to see Senator Obama elected and that is all that matters. In my opinion, PBS has totally abandoned their committment to fair and unbiased reporting.
I agree with Graniteman and Lisa, it really did not surprise me when I heard the news regarding Gwen Ifill and the (Senator Obama related) book that she is writing (to be released January 20th). However, I do feel betrayed by the fact that PBS has sold out their values and their mission to serve the public good. Over the last couple of months, I cringe everytime I see the “commercial” about how PBS is reporting the “unbiased truth” so that an educated electorate (needed for a health Democracy) can make an informed choice.
I do have faith in the majority of US citizens. I believe that we have come to the point where we see through the pretense of fair and unbiased reporting on both sides. I no longer rely on PBS or the MSM; I search out the real truth for myself. Regarding tomorrow’s VP Debate, I suspect that now that the issue of bias is on the table, Gwen Ifill will really attempt to be more balanced and that is a good thing!! Let’s hope that Ifill is successful!!

Posted by: carly in NJ | October 2, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

MyNameIsNobody:
That tirade was awesome! But were you able to write it without laughing.
“…EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS EVIL AN DESTRUCTIVE.” That was especially cool. I think I heard that on a Batman episode.

Posted by: Zeke | October 2, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

I can’t wait to see Palin choke in the debate. This economic crisis will not end with the Republican leadership in control. We need someone who has honed their political chops by beating the Chicago political machine at their own game!
Obama/Biden 2008!

Posted by: Demo-Nation | October 2, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

carly in NJ:
You left out the most relevant point. McCain agreed to her as moderator. If you know her views and the intensity of her views, Mccain knew them even better.
That renders the rest of your short story moot.

Posted by: Zeke | October 2, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am

Hey all you trolling republicans: would you like some cheese to go with your whine? Grow up. Get a life. And when Obama is elected in an electoral landslide, you can whine for another 8 years. WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Posted by: nixonlovesobama | October 2, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am

Hard to say…I think something like 96% of registered Black voters polled are going for Obama. Most Black voters are Democrats, but don’t know what %.
Would be interesting to see what the numbers would be if General Powell had run on the Republican ticket.
Guess we’ll never know.

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 2, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am

Yes, I normally avoid speeches, debates, etc. But not this one. Peggy Hill will flub this as badly as she does her pronunciation of Spanish in the classroom.

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am

All of these socialist/stalinist whiners do not realize what will happen if their boy is elected and pulls his leftist agenda, that he has been hidding, out of his zoot suite pocket; secessions and a civil war like no other. He and his ilk, and the Eastern Libs and San Fagsico Libs will see just what a minority they really are —can you say “Wiped Out”

Posted by: No2BluLips | October 2, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am

No2GrayMatter:
If a neo-nazi like you hates Obama, then I know I am right to support him.

Posted by: pubguy | October 2, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

Concerning Obama’s background check – Consider this: Obama’s associations with a variety of radicals, communists, and Muslim extremists over the years would without a doubt make him ineligible to be a member of the Secret Service – those who protect the president and the White House. If Obama couldn’t even be hired for a position with the Secret Service why would any loyal American even consider him to occupy the White House as president?

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

petee;
Are you still spouting those lies? McCain must be paying you time-and-a-half.

Posted by: zeke | October 2, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

My question is could there is any questioning information leak, i mean the questions that she is going to ask, that Biden will have advantage over Palin?. How is she compared to Tavis Smiley?

Posted by: nocatnowaco | October 2, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

Pubgay,You would make a great supporter –for his balls –Oops, he does not have any.

Posted by: No2BluLips | October 2, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

Zeke:
Senator McCain is not asking that Gwen Ifill be removed as the Moderator nor am I.
Gwen Ifill’s obligation to public service (after all PBS means exactly that, “Public Broadcasting”) is that as a PBS journalist she be balanced and unbiased. Gwen Ifill is expected to put her personal “political” leanings aside. PBS states that their service and mission to the public good is that they provide unbiased reporting.
One other interesting point is that in the last Presidential Election (2004); I actually found Gwen Ifill and her fellow Reporters to be biased against Senator John Kerry. Ifill was constantly making “snarky” comments about Senator John Kerry. In this Presidential election and also during the Democrat Party Primary, I found that the bias is even more extreme.
That is how I see it and like I said in my previous comment, I am so disappointed in PBS (long before this latest event) that I am no longer sending them a financial donation.
It is my hope that PBS will come back to their senses; it would be wonderful to have at least one media outlet that was truly balanced and fair!!

Posted by: carly in NJ | October 2, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

Zeke,
Admit it! Ifill is a duplicitious cow. She claims there is not a conflict of interest; what stupid wench! Of course, it is. It doesn’t take a half-wit to see that; but then that is a half more than a Democrap like her. What a cheating fraud.

Posted by: No2BluLips | October 2, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

Only McCain would debate the debate prior to it’s taking place – face it – your going to have have to open the gate and let your “so called” pit bull out of protective custody. Let’s see if she can run with the big dogs without the GOP whining, “unfair”. She is pretty mean mouthed to have such delicate feelings.

Posted by: White Mountain | October 2, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am

Just what we need for our president—an anti-America, anti-white, Marxist, corrupt, lying, hypocritical, liberal, tax-loving, unpatriotical, two-faced, anti-gun ownership, anti-military lawyer with a wife of the same ilk. Talk is cheap–Obama is truly ignorant and would ruin this country which is his goal. Castro and Hamas back him; is it any wonder? Anyone who thinks he would solve any problems need to do a little research on that scumsucker. I’m an Independent an I approve of this message.

Posted by: Ron Powell | October 2, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

zeke: And what lies might that be? That Obama wouldn’t be able to get a security clearance to be a Secret Service agent because of his MANY associations over the years with communists (Frank Davis for one), radicals (he launched his political career in the home of Bernardine Dohn and William Ayers), and Muslim extremists (Raila Odinga and Khalid Al-Mansour are just two of many)?

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

No2BluLips,
I know you think it’s cool, and hip to be a racist, and homophobe…but it’s not. You just show what a racist, homophobic jackass you are. Yeah…there’s going to be a secession. Lincoln wouldn’t allow the south to get away with it 1861, but in 2009 it’s going to happen. By the way people all over the country voted for Obama, in every state, except of course Michigan, and Florida. The same thing is going to happen in the general election, including Michigan, and Florida…so how exactly would that secession thing work? Can you say “racist dumbass”?

Posted by: Randy | October 2, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

Nocatnowaco:
I do find Tavis Smiley to be the best on PBS; he really works hard to be fair and balanced. He has some great shows.
Charlie Rose, however, along with Gwen Ifill just can’t cover up the level of bias.
Tavis Smiley would have been a better choice for the VP Debate Moderator!!
I also have concerns about the “leaking of the questions” to Biden. No matter, Palin will do just fine. It should be a great debate!!

Posted by: carly in NJ | October 2, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

Ron Powell,
In case you haven’t been paying attention…George W. Bush has pretty much taken care of that “ruin the country” thing.

Posted by: Randy | October 2, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

If this was a right-wing moderator the news would explode. This is doing nothing but hurting OBAMA. People are starting to notice how biased the news is. This is the beginning of the end for Barack.

Posted by: Ryan | October 2, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

–( Talk is cheap–Obama is truly ignorant and would ruin this country which is his goal. )–
You guys are really getting desperate.
–( Castro and Hamas back him; is it any wonder? )–
See what I mean.. even snopes has debunked that one and yet, like McCain, you keep repeating lies.. grasping at straws and doing just about anything to keep your world view intact, while completely ignoring the issues facing this country.

Posted by: jj1221 | October 2, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

No2Blulips,
Well…you are a half-wit, so you would know.

Posted by: Randy | October 2, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

I live in South America where gun-toting communists here just can’t wait for Obama to be elected!! Wake up and smell the coffee – foolish Americans!!!

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

Ryan,
“the beginning of the end” Where have I heard that before? Barack Obama’s demise has been forecast many times before…and yet he’s still here. You better worry about it being the beginning of the end for Sarah Palin. Doh! Too late…that was her first interview with Charlie Gibson.

Posted by: Randy | October 2, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am

Randy,
or more appropos: Mandy.
I am proudly a part-time racist, and I openly discriminate against flaming homos –like you. It is my right as an American to be intolerant of perversion and ignorance. The population and power has shifted away from the east in the last 50 years. It now rest in the south and the west; both of which stand ready to kick your liberal asses back to Boston.

Posted by: No2BluLips | October 2, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

Let’s see … it was just a “mistake” that one of Obama’s offices in Texas had a picture of Che Guevara prominently displayed on the wall. Of course they took it down when someone took a picture of it. America are you really THAT naive??

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am

petee,
And just what do these gun totin’ communist think is gonna happen when Obama is elected? Do they think he’s going to abolish the military? Surrender to Venezuela? I hate to break it to you, and your gun totin’ communist friends petee, but South America isn’t exactly a superpower. Sorry.

Posted by: Randy | October 2, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am

Randy: Since we are now talking about where all the votes are possibly coming from in November, then consider these facts:
The “strategy” utilizing “Voter Fraud” by Obama Supporters, the “new improved” Chicago based DNC Leadership and the Obama Campaign Inc. continues unabated and almost totally unreported in the MSM. We can NOT sit by and watch the NOBama Campaign win the election for POTUS using voter fraud (similar to the tactics used in the Dem. Party Primary)!!
There are some excellent efforts NOW being made by courageous groups challenging the implementation of this NoBama (“win by any means necessary”) strategy see the website, entitled “electionjournal.”
“Election Journal” is a non-partisan organization; however they do an excellent job challenging voter fraud.
This is a description of the “Election Journal” mission statement as they see it:
“[ If an election is worth winning, then there is someone willing to steal it. Vote fraud transcends party lines, international borders and appears in many different forms; vote buying, intimidation, tampering, forgery, absentee ballot, impersonation, petition, violence, (fraudulent) registration…….
With hundreds of millions of dollars being invested by political parties, campaigns, 527’s and third parties, the 2008 election is one worth winning. There will be those trying to steal it. High turnout, regulatory changes, machine issues and a lack of election official training will add to the chaos.
Electionjournal.org is an online community dedicated to raising public awareness of vote fraud and election irregularities. We encourage you to join the community, post comments often and share your stories.
Election Journal will be in the field on election day using new media technologies to document and report in real time as the democratic process plays out].”
The “Election Journal” is publicizing the investigation, indictment prosecution and/or conviction of ACORN and similar groups perpetrating voter fraud. An article from the “Election Journal site states that:
“['Indictments Begin In WI Voter Registration Fraud Case'...
A voter registration worker faces an election fraud charge for allegedly submitting dozens of fake names and addresses.
A criminal complaint filed Monday in Milwaukee County Circuit Court said 21-year-old Endalyn Adams submitted the information as a worker paid by the Community Voters Project, one of two main groups being investigated.
Hers is one of 49 cases that city election officials submitted to the district attorney for review. Nearly all involved the Community Voters Project or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
The complaint said the Voters Project had flagged 28 problem names from Adams for the city election officials. Investigators found another 45 names submitted earlier were added to the city’s voter list, but about 60 percent were deemed false and were removed].”
The question is, how many of these fraudulent registrations go undetected? I believe that the 28 flagged names in WI are only the tip of the iceberg regarding the effort to win the election by “any means necessary” and thereby undermine the democratic process in the US.
In addition the “Election Journal” is reporting on voter registration drives (conducted by ACORN) for Pennsylvania State prison inmates, an article on the “Election Journal” website states that:
“['ACORN - Turning Out The Prison Inmate Vote In PA'....
Volunteers explained: You can vote if you’ve been charged with a felony but haven’t had your court date yet. You can vote if you’re incarcerated on a misdemeanor conviction. You can vote if you’ve completed your incarceration on felony counts and are in jail awaiting trial on other charges. Inmates who had already registered at home could fill out absentee voting cards, along with the rest of the jail voters who would all be voting absentee on Election Day.
The Sept 27th drive was the largest registration effort to date at the jail and the only one jail officials knew of statewide, in anticipation of the last registration day: Oct. 6].”
We must question, denounce and spread the word about these illegal tactics and defend Democracy. Senator Obama and his supporters will do ANYTHING to win and if we remain silent they will continue to make a farce of this election (as they did the Democrat Party Primary);
For what is to come in the US, if NoBama Inc. should succeed, check out the 30 minute preview for the Documentary Film on the Obama Campaign Voter Fraud in the Dem Party Primary by Gigi Gaston (it should inspire all who watch this film to TAKE ACTION NOW),
see the website for wewillnotbesilenced2008
Also, Dr. Lynette Long has meticulously documented the Voter Fraud in the Democrat Party Primary Caucuses on her website; Dr. Lynette Long, then click the link for “Caucus Voter Fraud.”
To me the choice IS clear between, Senator Obama, an ethically challenged, self-serving politician born of the corrupt Chicago political machine (who sometimes gives inspiring speeches) and Senator McCain, a courageous and committed Reformer who always puts service to his Country first.
With the votes of millions of other former Hillary Clinton Supporters who feel as I do (yes, I am one of the MILLIONS OF VOTERS WHO DID NOT GET OVER IT), Senator John McCain will be elected POTUS November 08.
McCain/Palin08
REFORM, PEACE and PROSPERITY
Principle Over Party

Posted by: carly in NJ | October 2, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am

It all comes down to political and media bias against Palin and the Republicans. Recall, then Gov. Clinton in 1992. His credentials as Arkansas governor were no more than Gov. Palin’s. What was his foreign policy experience? Was it that he went to college in Oxford? His executive experience was definitely not greater. So, here we have selective memory, selective bias by the press and the Democrats they support.

Posted by: J. Carver | October 2, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am

Someone wrote: “If this was a right-wing moderator the news would explode.”
You guys really need to stop trying to find just about anything to blame for your candidates poor judgement and intelligence. I have yet hear a single person actually defend his stance on any real issue. Not one.. zip. nada. Yet I have heard multiple rational discussions on the stances of Obama which nobody has been able to refute. Come on McCain supporters, let us know.. pick an issue and tell us why his position is superior! But please make it a real issue that will affect the course of our country, not one of them imaginary ones like those that have been beaten to death by the likes of snopes and politifact. Obama has the insight and intelligence to lead this country in the right direction, and we definately need that after 8 years of the current idiot in office. Don’t agree? Please explain in a rational, intelligent way.. otherwise, please keep the bigoted, slanderous, BS, fear mongering hate crap to yourselves.

Posted by: JohnWilliams | October 2, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am

Do you think that she will ask Biden if Obama will pick the former Democrat executives who have fraudulently led the Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae to the current financial crisis as Advisers or Cabinets? They can really help Obama solve the economic crisis because they were the ones who did and knew it; probably that is why some of the poles say Obama has a lead in solving this economic problems.

Posted by: nocatnowaco | October 2, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am

Randy,
I find that your commentary to be weak and pathetic, but that is what I would expect from a worthless git. Liberals are the bottom-feeders of this world and are lower than cesspool scum, but smell worse. I cannot wait to see the pompuss, arrogant, selfish, greedy, know-nothing loss big –he is going down hard and you with him.

Posted by: ObamaIzQwweer | October 2, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

No2blulips,
You had it right the first time, it’s Randy. “part time”? no I’d guess you’re racist 24/7. I can’t help but notice it’s always the guys, how shall I say with the most “sugar in their tank”, that are the biggest homophobes. I suspect it’s the same in your case. I didn’t know intoerance, and ignorance was a right…I see it more as an affliction.The problem with that whole “shift of power thing” it wouldn’t be East against South, West. It would be some southerners, and some westerners against the US government. hence that whole “dumbass” comment. As far as kicking my “liberal” ass, I’m not from Boston. I was born in Florida, raised in NY. And I doubt if you could kick a bad habit…you know…let alone my ass.

Posted by: Randy | October 2, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am

Ifill should step down and let someone else moderate the debate. She is biased for Obama and she has a conflict of interest.

Posted by: carlyonsue | October 2, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am

In light of what has been found out about Gwen Ifill, it would naturally imply, Biden already knows the questions that will be asked?? I believe some people are lacking intellectual acuity to accept the debate as being fair. In regards to Obama, again too many of us seem not to see what’s before our very own eyes!

Posted by: Lew | October 2, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am

Hot dog.. I’m with ya ObamaizQwweer.. lets send them uppity scum suckers back where they came from.. this is america where men are men and them sheep are scared. Us white folk gots to stik togeter or we soon be a county of all kind of weeirdos. I cant wait for Mccan to whoop a on amerika. Bring on them rag heads over in Iren and pakesten.. give me a 6 pack and I will show em some of that amerikan justce. The south will rise agaen!

Posted by: RedNeckJoe | October 2, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am

John Williams, please use simple arithmetic. Add up the cost of all of Obama’s pie-in-the-sky promises. Free health care, affordable health care, college for everyone, assist auto manufacturing in retooling, the list goes on. You can probably do a better job here than me. However, then take a look at our budget. He promises to lower taxes for 95% of the taxpayers. Somehow, this doesn’t add up. This tells me that our deficit will increase if all of this comes to fruition. It’s either a deficit increase, or the promises don’t come to fruition, or the taxes will increase. Somewhere in this equation, Obama is not being truthful to Americans. Until I see the math and check the figures myself, he doesn’t have my vote. Obama is living a fairy tale.

Posted by: J. Carver | October 2, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am

See if Snopes can debunk the fact that Obama is on Judicial Watch’s ‘Ten Most Corrupt Politicians’ list. Read Michelle’s thesis from Princeton or Obama’s book, “Audacity Of Hope” in which he states “If the political winds should turn ugly, I will stand with the Muslims.” Or maybe check his deals with Rezko on Snopes, or the fact that his wife received a raise in salary from $117,000 to $312,000 a week after Obama became senator and then within a year her employer received a million grant from the government, or the $300,000 discount Obama received on his house in Chicago that he paid $1,695,000 for and at a loan from a mortgage company at lower rates than other buyers pay (the mortgage company contributed to his campaign) and if you have read any posts from Chicago they invite you to look at some of the ‘projects’ he was involved in there. Read some of the articles from the Chicago Sun-Times and
learn something other than what the biased liberal media tells you. Also he hhas voted in favor of partial birth abortion which means killing a viable human being. He says he didn’t keep any records while he was in the Illinois legislature and has been elusive as far those records are concerned. Incidentally I don’t like Bush and think he is a terrible president but when everyone thought Nixon was terrible they voted Peanuts Carter in and went from bad to worse. I see the same thing here.

Posted by: Ron Powell | October 2, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am

ObamaisQwweer,
What’s a git? My commentary is “weak, and pathetic” So you respond with weak, and pathetic commentary. Way to tell me. I hate to tell you, but my path in life isn’t predicated on whether, or not Obama wins (which I fully expect him to), or loses the election. But I promise I’ll think of how we both were “going down”, as I watch him being sworn into office in January.

Posted by: Randy | October 2, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

ObamaisQwweer,
What’s a git? My commentary is “weak, and pathetic” So you respond with weak, and pathetic commentary. Way to tell me. I hate to tell you, but my path in life isn’t predicated on whether, or not Obama wins (which I fully expect him to), or loses the election. But I promise I’ll think of how we both were “going down”, as I watch him being sworn into office in January.

Posted by: Randy | October 2, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

petee:
Your lies? Well there are too many to detail. But I will take care of two.
The “Muslim extremist Raila Odinga” is actually a Christian (Anglican).
And even an anti-Obama site did not say Khalid Al-Mansour is an extreme Muslim. Yes, he believes Christians will burn in hell but so what? Many Christians think Muslimes will. That doesn’t make him an “extreme Muslim’.
You lie so much, I will not attempt to address any more.

Posted by: Zeke | October 2, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am

Your “Top Headlines” says MCCAIN INFERS. You probably meant MCCAIN IMPLIES.

Posted by: Bill | October 2, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am

The day that Obama is sworn in, you’ll see Randy and people like him with their hand out, looking for their free entitlements. These are the people who believe the government owes them. What they fail to realize is that we the people are the government. So if we all sit back with our hands out and contribute nothing, this whole thing, the government (remember, we are the government) will implode upon itself. Just like most socialist countries have. Just check your history. And believe me, Obama will drive us toward socialism.

Posted by: J. Carver | October 2, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am

The debate needs a new moderator. Gwen Ifills needs to withdraw due to her conflict of interests. For Gwen to continue would be unethical! Doubts, who wouldn’t have doubts, Gwen is publishing a book about Obama, and has written an article in Essence magazine about him and his family. Gwen should realize this is a conflict, and so should Biden. The DNC must support a change in the moderator, which will move the debate to another date.

Posted by: Chuck | October 2, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

Randy,
Guerillas movements will spread across Latin America like wildfire if Obama is elected. They will be supplied with AK 47s from a factory that is now being completed by the Russians in Venezuela (funny how the U.S. news media just has so much difficulty finding out and reporting on such things). Any more questions?!

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am

Randy,
Raised in NY says it all –greedy, liberal leeches.
The US Gov’t can be dissolved by a majority vote of 37 states –check the law and constitution –you shirtlifter from Key West –which is not the real Florida –it is looney bin of its own; lets give it to Fidel.

Posted by: Diedre | October 2, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am

Yes, McCain agreed to her being a moderator. However, when this agreement was made, she had not divulged the fact that she was releasing this book. So we do have a conflict of interest. She should bow out.

Posted by: J. Carver | October 2, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am

petee:
“Guerillas movements will spread across Latin America like wildfire if Obama is elected. They will be supplied with AK 47s from a factory that is now being completed by the Russians in Venezuela (funny how the U.S. news media just has so much difficulty finding out and reporting on such things). Any more questions?!’
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Lmao. Did the extraterrestrials tell you that? Psst, look out! The men in the white coats are coming for you.

Posted by: PubGuy | October 2, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am

Before I leave for the evening sa I stated, I’m not a Bush fan but the economy started going south when good old boy Clinton started taking money from Chinese in return for trade concessions and technical information. Then in 1998 he issued orders to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to change their loan and finance requirements so as to allow more minorities and low income people to buy homes. The problem is, math 101 tells you what the end result will be which is today’s failures. Billy boy also issued EO 13166 which mandates anyone receiving funds from the government must provide all information in several different languages. This order cost the taxpayers billions every year. He also pardoned half of San Quentin on his way out. Rumor has it that he also siphoned the gas out of the Air Force One plane on his way out of office which was overloaded with White House furniture.

Posted by: Ron Powell | October 2, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am

J. carver:
“Yes, McCain agreed to her being a moderator. However, when this agreement was made, she had not divulged the fact that she was releasing this book. ”
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Her views have been well known for a longtime. McCain knew that as much as anyone did.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to get a moderator that does not favor one candidate or the other for POTUS.
A debate is not an interview. The moderator asks questions others have created, and keeps the candidates on time. What mystical power do you attribute to a moderator?
McCain is just looking for an excuse for when Palin gets slammed.

Posted by: PubGuy | October 2, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am

Sure PubGuy, keep on laughing. The Russians started building an AK47 factory in Venezuela a year and a half ago. It was widely reported here in South America but not in the States. Funny how the liberal MSM just forget to mention it.

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am

Obama measured his whitehouse drapes in June and is on track to win a huge landslide with all the cards in the deck stacked in his favor. More Democrats have mysteriously registered than ever before in the key swing states – registration is up by 10% for the Dems. Gwen Ifills, who was scowling when she reported on Palin at the GOP convention, is now making money writing articles and books on Obama and is to be moderator for the VP debate. The DNC candidate’s world campaign tour has money pouring in to fund his ads, phone calls, endorsements from foreign leaders, and his running the most costly campaign in US history.

Posted by: Sam | October 2, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am

Why would the staff at an Obama office in Texas prominently display a portrait of Che Guevara if they weren’t Marxist revolutionaries or sympathizers? Wake up America!

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am

Lew writes: In light of what has been found out about Ifill, it would naturally imply, Biden already knows the questions that will be asked??
—Yes, wonder why Ifill kept this information secret until the last minute and why she thought it appropriate to write pro-Obama articles during the campaign and continue as a debate moderator. She was not impartial or fair in her coverage on Palin at the GOP convention, and she won’t change now for the debate.

Posted by: Maleeya | October 2, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am

I live in Illinois,What has Obama done s since being in office.Nothing just campaigning and drawing his salary.

Posted by: dsiggy | October 2, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am

PubGuy, keep drinking your hallucinogens, you darn well know that if the media coverage was equal, Obama would be nothing but McCain’s laundry boy right now. However, given that 90% of the media coverage is pro-Obama, anti-McCain, Obama really should be scared that he is only 4 points ahead in the Gallup poll and shrinking. Yes it was known that she was pro-Obama, but what media person isn’t? However, most of the media is not looking to profit off of a book. It’s to her advantage to sway this debate, otherwise, her book will be another Dewey vs. Truman story.

Posted by: j. Carver | October 2, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am

petee:
Okay, so there is a rifle factory. Do you think ANY nation has a problem getting weapons? The US is far and away the largest arms exporter in the world, INCLUDING to South America.
And of course, the Mickey Mouse Club secret message to begin massive war all over South America is “Obama’s elected”.
I have to give it to you. You are a trip!

Posted by: PubGuy | October 2, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am

Zeke: O.K. Odinga is an Anglican who was instigated the riots this year in which a Christian church was torched by his followers and the people inside were burned alive. He’s Obama’s cousin and friend. He is also helping to bring Sharia law into Kenya. And you were saying …

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am

J. Carver:
“PubGuy, keep drinking your hallucinogens, you darn well know that if the media coverage was equal, Obama would be nothing but McCain’s laundry boy right now. However, given that 90% of the media coverage is pro-Obama, anti-McCain, Obama really should be scared that he is only 4 points ahead in the Gallup poll and shrinking. Yes it was known that she was pro-Obama, but what media person isn’t? However, most of the media is not looking to profit off of a book. It’s to her advantage to sway this debate, otherwise, her book will be another Dewey vs. Truman story.”
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Absolutely none of which addressed my post to you. Again: How can a moderator sway a debate?

Posted by: PubGuy | October 2, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

PubGuy, How do you know her questions haven’t been divulged to the DNC? Maybe she’ll choose her questions to favor Biden over Palin. You should take a college class on rhetoric and then I wouldn’t have to be answering this question

Posted by: J. Carver | October 2, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am

petee,
“Zeke: O.K. Odinga is an Anglican who was instigated the riots this year in which a Christian church was torched by his followers and the people inside were burned alive. He’s Obama’s cousin and friend. He is also helping to bring Sharia law into Kenya. And you were saying ..”
More lies. Sharia law for Kenyan Muslims has been guaranteed by its Constituion for a long time. You didn’t even read the anti-Obama blogs thoroughly that said he was trying to get Sharia law for MUSLIMS. Which again is a lie because they already have it.

Posted by: Zeke | October 2, 2008, 4:42 am 4:42 am

J. Carver:
She does not select the questions. She moderates. That’s it.
As for rhetoric, that is the first time you even attempted to address what I posted. You simply went off on a tangent.

Posted by: PubGuy | October 2, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am

Maybe a tangent, but a factual one.

Posted by: J. Carver | October 2, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

You gotta lov the democrats – those sleazy putzs and harpies will do anything to steal an election. Now their candidate is unkilled – ohhh he was a community organizer for ACORN many of whose members are sitting in jails or under indictment for voter fraud. Their presidential candidate wrote in his book (believed to have been written by ex-terrorist William Ayers, that he had been a heavy drug user when he was a poor teenager and in his early twenties. Now for a poor Black youth to be heavily into drugs is to sell drugs to get drugs. So maybe our next president will be a former drug dealer. Wow! How this country has fallen. This will make democrats proud.

Posted by: Ww Terry | October 2, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am

dsiggy:
Just wondering if you have ever checked out the site “Chicagoans Against Obama;” it’s a very enlightening site that has lots of documentation on the very issue that you raise, in dsiggy says:
["I live in Illinois,What has Obama done s since being in office.Nothing just campaigning and drawing his salary].”
The website “Chicagoans Against Obama,” answers that very question!!

Posted by: carly in NJ | October 2, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am

petee:
A little background on EXISTING Sharia law for Muslims in Kenya
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Constitutional Status of Islam(ic Law): The Constitution was adopted on 12th December 1963, and has been amended several times; most notably in 1964 when Kenya became a Republic and in 1991 when a multiparty system was restored. ********The Constitution does not provide for any official state religion. Article 66(1) to (5) provides for the establishment of Kadhis’ Courts.
Islamic law is applied by Kadhis’ Courts where “all the parties profess the Muslim religion” in suits relating to “questions of Muslim law relating to personal status, marriage, divorce or inheritance”. There are eight Kadhis’ Courts in Kenya, presided over by a Chief Kadhi or a Kadhi appointed by the Judicial Services Commission. Appeals lie to the High Court, sitting with the Chief Kadhi or two other Kadhis as assessor(s).

Posted by: Zeke | October 2, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am

PubGuy:
Gwen Ifill ALSO CREATES the questions for the VP Debate and she is the ONLY ONE who is to know the questions ahead of time. We can ONLY hope!!

Posted by: carly in NJ | October 2, 2008, 4:55 am 4:55 am

It’s time for bed, so I will leave you with the words of your hero, himself:
‘…adding that he has “no question that she will be perfectly fair in the way she asks the questions.”‘
So argue with him.

Posted by: PubGuy | October 2, 2008, 4:58 am 4:58 am

PubGuy: Of course Obama’s associations with Bernadine Dohrn and William Ayers (he launched his political career from their home), Frank Davis (communist mentor in his early years), Jeremiah Wright (“God damn America..”), Muammar Gadaffi (“Obama’s one of us”) mean nothing. Neither does the portrait of Che Guevara in his office in Texas, the fact that he wouldn’t wear an American flag pin on his lapel until it became a political problem, or having a wife who said she was never proud of the U.S. in her adult life until her husband started running for president. Just how evidence do you need to know where this guy’s heart truly is? “There’s none so blind as he who will not see.”

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am

zeke: Gee … you can cut and paste from wikipedia … how talented. You just happened to leave out the part that Obama’s cousin and friend (Odinga) instigated riots this year in which thousands were killed and Christians were burned alive.

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am

Conflict of interest, pure and simple. We’ll see how professional she is soon enough. However, there may be a risk now that she’ll compensate for the possible perceived bias and go easier on Palin.

Posted by: Chris of Australia | October 2, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am

So, they will try to use this moderator as a scapegoat, if things go wrong. If Palin is ready and informed, why should they worry? Everyone will be watching. How Palin performs has nothing to do with Ifill, nor any other moderator/interviewer. It’s all on her.

Posted by: Vince | October 2, 2008, 5:22 am 5:22 am

””””WE COMING TO WASHINGTON TO SHAKE-UP THINGS””””
DO IT SARAH, DO IT !
WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA ARE WITH YOU.
WE THE PEOPLE OF MAERICA LOVE YOU.
JUST DO IT! GO TO WASHINGTON AND SHAKE UP THINGS!
SARAH, SARAH, SARAH & McCAIN 2008!

Posted by: james-miller | October 2, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am

Why can’t I question the candidates? The problem is we (the people) have no opportunity – McCain seems to put himself out there with his townhall meetings but the press does not even report on what goes on. As far as I can determine Obama makes speeches but no townhall meetings. So why not give me a change or my plumber – he certainly has some tough questions that he wants answered.

Posted by: Beverly | October 2, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am

I am quite sure that all reporters, moderators, newscasters, and any other people within the profession of reporting news, etc., have their personal opinions and convictions about who and what they beleive in, and what is right or wrong. A professional is a professional. Do we know who Katie Couric supports? No. … And yet, we automatically give her the credibility and respect of a professional. The only difference is, Ifill has revealed her interests. I think that is more valiant than hiding it, and attacking stealthly.

Posted by: Vince | October 2, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am

There is an appearance of conflict of interest. In most circles, that is unethical. Ms. Ifill, herself, should have done the right thing and removed herself. If Palin does badly, the GOP will use Ms. Ifill as one of many reasons why Palin did not shine. Ms. Ifill has got to see that many perceive a conflict of interest. Surprised she does not realize that at all.

Posted by: Lawrence | October 2, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am

The comments about McCain and keating 5 just make my blood boil. McCain is a true patriot and American war hero who has devoted his entire life to the service of his country, and these unscrupulous people are willing to take that away from him with cheap-shot attacks about Keating 5! If anyone will do their homework, they would discover that McCain was just an honest dupe in the scandal, duped and betrayed by his (ex)friend Charles Keating. The only thing he was guilty of was trusting his friend. Remember, Keating went to prison, not McCain. McCain has always led an exemplary, honest political life. I invite anyone to count the number of politicians who have neither received nor asked for any earmark money in a career that spans 26 years. McCain stands alone on that count!

Posted by: macguy | October 2, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am

McCain used to be relatively honest for a politician, except for his personal life.
Unfortunately, in this last campaign he seems to have lost integrity and sold out to the Right Wing of the Republican party.
So we see him on TV saying that he approves ads that are obvious and blatant lies. Too bad…

Posted by: Bill in NC | October 2, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am

It is very, very wrong that GWEN IFILL’s will be the moderator at the VP debate. It is very wrong and the whole of America knows this.
We all know the PRESS is giving her a free pass.
If this was the opposite happening, the Press would be all over McCain and Palin condenming them.
But do you hear anyone in the PRESS saying it is wrong? NO YOU DONT HEAR IT.
LET THE PRESS SINK TO THE VAST PRICIPICE…
AMERICAN’S ARE FAR SMARTER THAN THE PRESS.
THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT!
I AM A PROUD DEMOCRACT WHO HAVE NEVER VOTED REPUBLICAN…
THE NEVER ENDED IN MY BOOK…
THIS YEAR I AM VOTING…
MACCAIN FOR PRESIDENT/PALIN FOR VP.

Posted by: james-miller | October 2, 2008, 5:49 am 5:49 am

OK keep Ifill and let’s use Hannity for the next Presidential debate.

Posted by: NOBAMA2 | October 2, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am

If it was very, very wrong that Gwen was the moderator they’d have taken it up as an issue ages ago. Gwen is a gift for them to be able to pull the “it’s not fair” back out because they know their girl doesn’t have what it takes here. Big deal she’s writing a book about blacks in politics. Last I looked she was black and I can fathom why it is an interesting subject to her. And you are no democrat voting for McCain. You people are such a joke anymore.

Posted by: Sandra | October 2, 2008, 6:11 am 6:11 am

This article is so biased…Reporter, is your name “In the tank” or “I drank the Kool-Aid”, it is hard to keeo track, because you all look the same.

Posted by: Truth - not bias | October 2, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

If Rick Davis is MORE CORRUPT than Acorn, Why does Capital Socialists only focus on Acorn.
Say No to McCains Pork add on’s to the Bill.
Say No to Wooden Arrows.(If wood=Metal, then you can figure out Arrows) :)
Say No to WallStreet Rescue
Watch CNN and MSNBC
Checkout Turning Points, with Tom Brokow, for History Outlines and Debates. Including JFK’s Debate.
Call Your House Reps. and say NO to ADDED PORK.
Vote INDEPENDENT
SAY NO to PORK for RACETRACKS. Gambling on Wall Street Has already Gambled AWAY Americas FREEDOM.
VOTE NO TO CONGRESS PORK
VOTE NO TO CONGRESS PORK
VOTE NO TO CONGRESS PORK
VOTE NO TO CONGRESS PORK
VOTE NO TO CONGRESS PORK
VOTE NO TO CONGRESS PORK
VOTE NO TO CONGRESS PORK
VOTE NO TO CONGRESS PORK

Posted by: historyremembered | October 2, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

Come on HERE IT GOES AGAIN. I am sorry they know about IFILL since July 23. Not once is McCain Happy about anything, trying to use excuse and case Palin can not get through for tonight. SHAME on your.

Posted by: angie | October 2, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am

More “woe is us” from the McCain camp.
If any of the electorate is still undecided you should closely look at all the McCain “miscommunications”, clerical mistakes, and “we just found outs” in this campaign. Consistently, the McCain camp is a day late and a dollar short. Is anyone behind the scenes minding the shop?

Posted by: mavsreader | October 2, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Give me a break! The moderator simply asks questions and the candidates answer them. Another idiotic attempt by Republicans to blame the media should Palin come off badly..

Posted by: indy_voter | October 2, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

QbammaizQwweer,
I am sure the Republican party welcomes you with open arms. Keep ranting…

Posted by: indy_voter | October 2, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

Hi All. I am neither Democrat nor Republican. In fact, I am not even American. So please allow a point of view of a neutral 3rd party in this matter: I have read coverage of this issue from several sources, and seen the actual video footage of McCain making his the remakrs that allegedly “sowed doubts” about Ifill. I has a totally different impression. McCain, and Palin in another clip both expressed confidence in Ifill’s professionalism and impartiality. My conclusion therefore is that ABC News, unfortunately, does not report facts but rather reporter’s opinions. And their opinions are so unfairly skewed against the Republicans. By all means read ABC News if you want to feel good about Republican-bashing. But please do not for a moment think that you are reading fair and balanced coverage.

Posted by: springdale (from Singapore) | October 2, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

asked a liberal a question today…What do you feel is Obama’s greatest strength?..
i love libearls, they will never answer your question
the reply was this ( this really was said).. Obama will do a better job than Bush..we cannot have another 8 years of this..Palin is an idiot and McCain is too old.
fyi…I am Independent but I guess I would classified as a liberal by you….The reply was right on. I am for Obama simply because he is not a Republican and would not continue the insipid Republican policies over the 8 years (actually, since Reagan). And the observations regarding Palin and McCain re-inforce my position. I also question McCain’s intelligence and judgement not his age. He seems prone to make rash decisions that he has to continually back-track from.

Posted by: indy_voter | October 2, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Gwen Ifill failed to disclose her personal financial interest in Obama winning. It’s a clear conflict of interest. With an ethical failing like that, who can say she won’t give Biden his questions beforehand? “The fix is in.”

Posted by: petee | October 2, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

sally from jacksonville is obviously on crack (speaking of kool aid). Who knows where she gets her made-up information . . . either the trailer park she lives in, or her head, though if it is her head where she gets her info, she one or more of the following: 1)CRAZY (as in delusional) 2)as bigoted as they come 3)schizophrenic & racist (all of the above, more or less). Her statements are so far from the truth it is nearly impossible to recognize the democratic candidate in her description.
Sally, for your information: Barack worked hard and received scholarships (do you understand how people get scholarships? One has to be VERY SMART, and a straight A student to receive them), and he worked through school as well. He IS NOT a beneficiary of Affirmative Action, actually – in fact he didn’t list his ethnicity any of his applications. I can’t speak for Michelle with regard to Affirmative Action, but I suspect she is not a beneficiary of Affirmative Action either, based on the level of schooling she reached.
Have you ever been to college? Because clearly you have no idea how much college costs, and how much his schooling supposedly cost the government. I don’t care if they went to the most expensive schools in the world, it would never cost even close to 400,000. This would be hint #3 that you are delusional.
You obviously have no grasp of what being the editor of the Harvard Law Review means, much less what it IS. Mr. Obama was ELECTED to the position by his peers, and in fact being an editor of the most distinguished law publication in the country is HARD WORK, on top of being a law student. This was no “perk” bestowed upon him because of his race. This was Hint #2 that you are delusional.
The most obvious hint at your delusion would be that your lady Mrs. Palin has 3 degrees. I don’t even think it is worth my time to respond to your nonsense, but I am sorry to inform you that you are so very wrong about that. You should write to the campaign and ask them if you don’t believe me, but Mrs. Palin spent 6 years getting ONE 4 year degree, and according to at least one of her former professors who has spoken up, she barely passed the grade.
Lastly, if Mr. Obama had been lying about being a professor, don’t you think he would have been found out by now? Instead we have his peers and superiors from the University where he taught backing him up. (note there is a difference between being an associate professor and a tenured professor, but I am assuming that distinction is over your head.)
This whole thread is outta control. I didn’t realize his candidacy incited such vitriol in the dimmer factions of the populace — it’s pretty depressing.
So many of you are so wrong, but it would be a wast of my time to address any of you, just as I am wasting my time here now.
Finally, to “opagene”: Mr. Obama was brought up in a completely loving home by his grandparents and mother. He always had what he needed, was never neglected, and was loved way beyond what too many children don’t have in this country. Your dedication to researching narcissistic personality disorder is impressive, but you have the wrong guy here, and you are making the wrong assumptions, characterizations, and comparisons. If you want to find out the truth, read his first memoir, written in his early 30′s. What you will find is a portrait of a youngster being raised by a young, smart, single mother, with the help of her parents. They were all completely doting and committed to Obama — they LOVED him, and clearly Mr. Obama learned a thing or two about being a parent, based on how happy his two young daughters obviously are. Barack Obama, despite not having his biological father around, had everything a child could possibly need whilst growing up: a father figure in his grandfather (to whom he is still close), his grandmother who was active and the main breadwinner, and a doting mother who made sure he had the best education they could scratch together for him. He is so far from having Narcissistic Personality Disorder that it is completely laughable that you venture to make this conclusion. Honestly, it reeks of racism to me. Sorry, but you are way off the mark there — and Mr. Obama will be the most benevolent and compassionate leader we have had in A LONG TIME. He is not your narcissistic personality man, sorry to inform you. Maybe you should give up on reasons to dislike him so vehemently and start looking at the truth for a change.

Posted by: ericasky | October 2, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

What’s the problem. Replace Ifill with another moderator. One that both parties feel is a more neutral and objective reporter. Pee Wee Herman available? Lord!! Are the elections over yet??

Posted by: Nitehawk | October 2, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Yeah, a dem is voting for McCain. Sorry, you’re not a dem. You’re a republican pretending to be a dem. Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | Oct 1, 2008 7:13:56 PM
Well, then you must not be a Republican. Who cares about party labels? Everyone puts too much importance on what party you are or what party you’re voting for. Stop criticizing people for voting across party lines when you’re doing the same thing. There’s a word for that, and it’s called “hypocrisy”. You should really look it up.

Posted by: Brady | October 2, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

so because Gwen Ifill is the moderator of the VICE presidential debate, Obama will win and her book will sell 1 million copies?
btw- there is only 1 chapter on Obama in the book

Posted by: Me | October 2, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Let’s stick to the issue; this information has been out since July — according to Sarah Palin, she reads all the news so she should certainly have been aware. Very convenient that the night before the debate, all of a sudden the Republicans pull this out of the hat. And the book is NOT about Obama but about blacks rising in politics. Evidently there isn’t a “crisis” that Palin needs to rush to so she can cancel the debate so this is the best the GOP could come up with. I’m expecting something else to rise in today’s news to take the burden off Palin.

Posted by: Marta | October 2, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

How did the GOP let this happen? What are they doing down there that makes them too busy to check out Ifill. Let me guess. . . the same staff member who vetted Palin checked out Ifill. With her book being released on inauguration day she has a major financial stake in who wins this election. There is no difference between this, and if she had gone to Vegas and dropped 500k on Obama to win. Of course there is a conflict of interest. How naive can you be to think there isn’t.
In this financial crisis, wouldn’t it have been great to have Romney instead of Palin battling Biden tonight. He would wipe the floor with Biden on economics. She’s become the drag on the ticket, and we haven’t even seen her debate yet. Hoping for mere survival, but expecting the worst.

Posted by: Present | October 2, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Why should we be surprised at the media biases. They’re with obama since day one. Hard to give respect for those so called journalists.
ifill lets her greed clouded her judgment. A person with integrity would stepped down.

Posted by: USA-No1 | October 2, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Marta. . . .if the book isn’t about Obama, then why is the title “”Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.” You see his name there?. . .that should give you a clue. Couldn’t she have referred to this era without using Obama’s name? Give me a break.

Posted by: Present | October 2, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Marta. . . .if the book isn’t about Obama, then why is the title “”Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.” You see his name there?. . .that should give you a clue. Couldn’t she have referred to this era without using Obama’s name? Give me a break.

Posted by: Present | October 2, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

How long has the McCain-Palin campaign known that Ifill would be moderator (and obviously agreed to it)? And then the day before the debate all sorts of objections surface? Talk about a tactic resulting from a strategy ( Let’s whine about how everything is unfair to poor little us.)! Grow up. I admire Ifill greatly. She’s a successful, intelligent woman. Palin should admire her accomplishments.

Posted by: holly | October 2, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Holly. . .to answer your question. . .they’ve known Ifill would be moderator for months. . .they’ve known about her book for a few days. They should have checked her out a long time ago. . their fault. . .she conveniently did not tell the Commission on Presidential Debates about the book and the release date . . . her fault, and a major conflict of interest.

Posted by: Present | October 2, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Ifill has no excuse for not disclosing that she is the author of a book set to be released on Inauguration Day about Obama. Whatever “track record” she might have had before now is not relevant. Her integrity is compromised and she should not have allowed herself to be the moderator of the debate. One more example of how the media is trying to influence the election results. Shame on you!

Posted by: Donna | October 2, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

This is just another excuse to use for Palin making a complete ass of herself at the debate. McCain campaign know she is going to destroy herself and McCain, so they are putting together an arsenal of excuses to try to convince the public that Palin was a victim of either sexism, bias, gender discrimination, poor lighting, microphone system not working properly and anything else you can think of.

Posted by: Jacki L | October 2, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

For those espousing about McCain, and war. Obviously didn’t listen carefully to the debate.
Obama is all for getting out of Iraq, and turning those troops to enter into Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Helps to wath the whole debate, and not just the first 30 minutes, then go watch a rerun of Seinfeld.
I’ve said before, and will say again…Glenn, and McCain were exonerated from the Keating 5 debacle. The head prosecutor was a Dem, and said he felt Mr. McCain was one of thee most honest people he’s ever met. This is a man who could have tanked McCain if he wanted too, but unlike some, he’s obviously a man of integrity.
I understand looking for, and finding the truths, but the real truth is…Obama got angry at that primary debate with Charlie, and George because George asked about his associations. YOu could literally see Obama’s face go sullen at the question. That’s the night he raised his hand to scratch his nose, or forehead, and gave the finger.
His citizenship is being questioned. His associations, and now his campaign contributions. Some from Iran. These are HUGE issues, being completely ignored by the main stream media. Where was all the hoopla about Sarah Palins email being hacked by the sone of A democratic Congressman from Tennessee?
There is rightful indignation here. If everyone took a breath, and thought…ask yourselves…..is this woefull whining, or is this a valid point? Ask yourselves….if a debate came about, and the moderator was to be…. Sean Hannity, or Rush…would you be ok with that? Probably not…but I doubt you’d be open, or honest enough to answer that honestly.
The title is rude. Mr. McCain has voiced concern, but feels Ms.Ifill will be unbiased. Some of us don’t think so, when she stands to make some money out of this deal.
That being said, the debate is on, and now Ms.Ifills performance tonight comes into play. She is going to be watched as much as the VP candidates. I don’t think that’s what anyone wants either.
ABC…do a story on why the DOJ, and FEC are holding back an investigation on campaign contributions, and Obama’s lack of showing them to anyone, while McCain lists each and everyone of his.

Posted by: Jeanie | October 2, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Donna wrote – “Ifill has no excuse for not disclosing that she is the author of a book set to be released on Inauguration Day about Obama.” You people need to realize that the McCain camp knew about this 3 months ago and still agreed that she would moderate this debate! Obama’s segment in the book is only one chapter of many! Besides Gwen does not write her own questions, she just moderates. Ths will be a highly structured debate that will allow neither Biden nor Palin to really engage one another.

Posted by: kenvick22 | October 2, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Ifill will not be judging the debate or influencing the answers will she? Simply put, as a moderator, she asks each side the same question, ask for elaboration if they fail to address the question, make sure each stays on the subject and actually answers the question and monitors the time. There is nothing to be biased about here.
It is not as if she/he keeps score or tells us what the other person thinks–all that is left to us. The fact is, a July 23 article in the Washington Times was about the forthcoming book of Ifill’s. Both parties agreed to use Ifill on 8/7/08. In addition a publisher’s blurb circulated to all news and media sources on her book on 8/21/08. No one decried anything. Palin was not picked until 8/29/08. There were no complaints about Ifill until it came out that Palin might be an oratory dud/airhead. Now there is a problem with the moderator? What are the Republicans afraid of? Does the moderator yell or scream or tell the public who to believe? This is the usual Republican distraction and outcry–the usual standard when they are in a clusterfvck and hope everyone can find anything to blame it on, except the real culprit–themselves.

Posted by: stoplying08 | October 2, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Ifill will not be judging the debate or influencing the answers will she? Simply put, as a moderator, she asks each side the same question, ask for elaboration if they fail to address the question, make sure each stays on the subject and actually answers the question and monitors the time. There is nothing to be biased about here.
It is not as if she/he keeps score or tells us what the other person thinks–all that is left to us. The fact is, a July 23 article in the Washington Times was about the forthcoming book of Ifill’s. Both parties agreed to use Ifill on 8/7/08. In addition a publisher’s blurb circulated to all news and media sources on her book on 8/21/08. No one decried anything. Palin was not picked until 8/29/08. There were no complaints about Ifill until it came out that Palin might be an oratory dud/airhead. Now there is a problem with the moderator? What are the Republicans afraid of? Does the moderator yell or scream or tell the public who to believe? This is the usual Republican distraction and outcry–the usual standard when they are in a clusterfvck and hope everyone can find anything to blame it on, except the real culprit–themselves.

Posted by: stoplying08 | October 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Well said, stoplying08. If the McCain camp was as confident in Palin as they come off to be, then there wouldn’t be this leel of guarded protection around her.
Come on everyone, Palin is a politician. Politicians are supposed to deal with the oposition. Enough already of this “poor Sarah” garbage. She knows the game. If she can’t take the heat, then she needs to get out of the kitchen. The voters have a right to see if she can or not.

Posted by: kenvick22 | October 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Did anyone notice that McShame voted for a pork laden bill yesterday. Isn’t he the one who was rallying against pork spending and that he was going to stop it?
So much for principles, the lying just keeps rolling along!

Posted by: Independent realist | October 2, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

He will make them famous, and you will know his name.

Posted by: Independent realist | October 2, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

kenvick22, if the liberal press is fair and objective, then there’s no reason to limit Palin exposures to them.

Posted by: USA-No1 | October 2, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Independent realist, you failed to mentioned that the dems stuffed it full of pork barrel projects.

Posted by: USA-No1 | October 2, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

The fact that Ms.IFill talked about the book back in august, doesn’t mean she disclosed it to the commission when she was asked to be a moderator, and she certainly didn’t disclose it to them voluntarily, by her own admission.
If you’ve listened at all, McCain, and Palin both welcome her…and this whole story is misleading. It’s supporters, who have an issue with it, and with good reason.
No story about John Edwards love child, but we put Mrs. Palins daughter thru the rigors, for no good reason. The sick mindset here is mind boggling. It’s ok to trash a young girl, but not a political figure simply b/c he’s a Dem and it might hurt the party.
I personally have an issue with it, but if all parties involved tonight are ok with it…then fine.
But if all you OPEN minded progressives were honest, you’d be crying foul from the mountain tops, if a known conservative , writing a book glorifying McCain were a moderator for a major debate for the Presidency…and we all know it.

Posted by: Jeanie | October 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

If she works much harder on how she is going to respond to the questions asked of her, it will not be a debate at all. It will be Biden’s Acceptance speech as VP of the USA!

Posted by: Bobbi | October 2, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

The Republicans are a joke.They have no problem being biased. Isn’t that why Tom Brokaw a Republican is moderating the next Pres. debate?

Posted by: Didi | October 2, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

didi, does Tom Brokaw have a book deal that can get him rich if a certain candidate elected?

Posted by: USA-No1 | October 2, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Now what, they are threaten by good journalist

Posted by: meron | October 2, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Liberals are a bunch of appeasers.

Posted by: Vote for the Maverick | October 2, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

It appears that McCain is expecting poor results from the debate tonight, and is trying to hedge his bets. While being careful not to accuse, McCain has planted the seed of doubt regarding the moderator before the debate begins, setting the stage for making excuses for Palin afterwards. Having put Ifill “on notice” regarding potential bias, she would have to be a fool to come anywhere close. Unfortunately, given McCain’s record of dishonesty in this election, that probably won’t prevent him from repeating the allegation should Palin stumble badly. Such a lack of confidence in his own running mate is a very sad statement, although well earned by Sarah’s recent embarrassments.

Posted by: Miri | October 2, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

“Frankly, I wish they had picked a moderator that isn’t writing a book favorable to Barack Obama.”
“Life isn’t fair…”
John McCain, Oct 2, 2008

Posted by: Rudy | October 2, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

I thought the moderator was very fair. Palin should have been laughed at. She didn’t even know what a VP does.
Biden had the most inspiring words:
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/32081/2008-Vice-Presidential-Debate/Presidential-Race-2008/Barack-Obama/When-you-get-knocked-down

Posted by: Sounds | October 3, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

the intimidators acomplished what they set out to do. after puting ms. ifill on the defensive, the gov. was able to call the shots and tell everyone what she would/wouldn’t do. ms ifill did not ask the gov. to answer the questions and to stop rambling on.hopefully tom brokaw will have a litte spine when he moderates the next debate.

Posted by: charlie rivera | October 7, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

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