Oct 1, 2008 8:54pm

McCain Campaign Insinuates Bias by Moderator of VP Debate

As covered over at our Political Radar Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told Fox News’ Carl Cameron on Wednesday that Ifill "will do a totally objective job because she is a highly respected professional."

But he added, as is his new media-bashing wont, "Does this help that she has written a book that is favorable to Sen. Obama? Probably not."

It was unclear how McCain definitively knew that the book, which is still being written, "is favorable to Sen. Obama."

Ifill said today in an interview with the Associated Press, that Obama’s story will be only a small part of the book, which is focused on how politics in the African-American community have changed. Other black public figures, including Gen. Colin Powell (Ret.) will be profiled as well.

She has yet to write the chapter on Obama, Ifill said, and she wondered why anyone would assume the book will be favorable to Obama.

"Do you think they made the same assumptions about Lou Cannon when he wrote his book about Reagan?" asked Ifill, host of PBS’ "Washington Week" and senior correspondent on "The NewsHour."

Asked by AP’s David Bauder is she thought there were racial motives at play, Ifill said, "I don’t know what it is. I find it curious."

"I’ve got a pretty long track record covering politics and news," she said. "so I’m not particularly worried that one-day blog chatter is going to destroy my reputation. The proof is in the pudding. They can watch the debate tomorrow night and make their own decisions about whether or not I’ve done my job."

Others in the McCain-Palin nexus sowed seeds of doubt about Ifill.

Asked by Sean Hannity if she was worried about Ifill, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said, "I am not going to let it be a concern," adding "that just makes us work harder. It makes us want to communicate even clearer and more profoundly with the electorate, letting them know what the contrasts are between these two tickets."

In addition, on a conference call set up by the McCain-Palin campaign, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani — while calling Ifill a "very honest, decent journalist" and saying there is "no question that she will be perfectly fair in the way she asks the questions" — also raised that very question.

"If the moderator of this debate were someone who was writing a book that basically was ‘The Age of McCain,’ I have a feeling that a lot more of these publications would be saying that the person should not be doing it," said Giuliani. "Now it might be totally unfair to do that. Just as I think it’s totally unfair to do this. But it’s just one more indication of how there is a double-standard in the way this campaign is treated."

Conservative talk radio giant Rush Limbaugh said Wednesday that Ifill "has a financial stake in Obama winning the race in addition to whatever other stakes that she has invested in Obama winning the presidential race."

And then there’s Jay Nordlinger at The Corner, who writes "Years ago, some Bolshi Democrat I think it was Ron Dellums was rising to some important committee position. And Henry Hyde was asked, by some righty (no doubt), ‘Don’t you think he’s a security risk?’ And Hyde answered blithely, ‘No more than any other Democrat.’ (I am paraphrasing but am very close.) Anyway . . . I’ve thought of Hyde’s remark this morning. People say, ‘Well, isn’t Gwen Ifill pro-Obama?’ And the answer is: ‘If she is, is she more so than any other suitable MSM big?’"

the McCain campaign is raising doubts about PBS anchor Gwen Ifill’s ability to be fair as the moderator of tomorrow night’s Vice Presidential debate after learning that she is working on a book about a new generation of black leaders called, "Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama."

User Comments

Don’t you usually make excuses AFTER a loss instead of before? Man, the McCain/Palin campaign just comes off looking terrified.

Posted by: ElodieStClair | October 1, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Stop playing dumb Jake. Ifill did a puff piece on Obama for Essence magazine.

Posted by: geevill | October 1, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

How dare this woman play the race card.

Posted by: gevill | October 1, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Clearly, at the minimum there is an appearance that she has an investment in Sen. Obama winning the election, and it is certainly not a giant leap to say that it is in fact a conflict based on her financial interest.

Posted by: Stevereno | October 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

The Radical Right, who believe that “Change” means advancing into the Nineteenth Century, can holler until the cows come home about the “liberal media”-people like George Will, David Frum, Charles Krauthammer, and others on the (far) Right are opposed to McCain’s choice of Palin as (potentially) the next President of the United States. What a frightening thought, that reflects VERY poorly on McCain’s judgement.

Posted by: sophillyfatz | October 1, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

“she wondered why anyone would assume the book will be favorable to Obama.”
If we are to buy her argument then anyone that stupid has no business moderating a debate. What debate did Lou Cannon moderate?

Posted by: geevill | October 1, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

The Radical Right, who believe that “Change” means moving into the Nineteenth Century must be perplexed that (far) Right commentators like George Will, David Frum, Charles Krauthammer and the like are opposed to McCain’s choice of Palin as (potentially) the next President of the United States. What a frightening thought, reflecting VERY poorly on McCain’s jugement when making important decisions like this.

Posted by: sophillyfatz | October 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Hopefully she won’t play the “gotcha” game everyone else is playing. Everyone knows Palin does not have experience. Obama was in the same spot just 18 months ago. They should have picked someone more neutral.

Posted by: rafraf | October 1, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

The McCain camp has decried the media so much that it is laughable, at this point. They would turn down an interview with Elmo for fear it may be biased. If the McCain/Palin camp can not and will not handle our media, they are completely ill-equipped for the White House.

Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

ABC writes: Asked by Sean Hannity if she was worried about Ifill, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said, “I am not going to let it be a concern,” adding “that just makes us work harder. It makes us want to communicate even clearer and more profoundly with the electorate, letting them know what the contrasts are between these two tickets.”
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Is she planning on completing any actual sentences which are the essence of clear communication?

Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

“A very, honest, decent journalist”
Well Jake Tapper it is not like you would know anything about that.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | October 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Gawd, no wonder the media is so ridicious.
Jake, read your own writing. You say that Carl Cameron asked, “Does it help that the book…is favorable to Obama?”
Then you go on to say, “It’s unknown how McCain would know it is favorable to Obama.”
Anyone there have a brain?

Posted by: Captain America | October 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Paige I heard the interview and that is not how she said it. JPT has taken liberties and cut out most of the statement made by Palin.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | October 1, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

There is NO DOUBT that there is bias with Ms Ifill. I mean, come on, of all the moderators avaialble, they had to choose one who is writing a book, that will include Obama? And how many moderators out there are NOT writing a book that will include Obama, that they could have chosen? REgardless of whether or not the book will be positive about Obama, there is still a financial stake in it; her book will sell better if Obama is president, plain and simple.
Plus, it was very welll reported on how horribly Ifill commented on Palin after her gop speech.
Jake Tapper would make a horrible moderator because of his known bias to Obama. Gwen Ifill will also make a horrible moderator as well. This is our ONE chance to get a perfect debate with these candidates, why raise any doubt at all? Why take the chance, why won’t they change moderators?
Oh yeah, someone will undoubtably call it racist.

Posted by: liberati | October 1, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Could it all be that Ifill doesn’t look like Cannon? Or, is it because it is she is so much in the tank for Obama?
Ifill’s insinuating that is racial is really bizarre. The woman has a financial interest in Obama winning the election. She should recuse herself.

Posted by: Captain America | October 1, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

After Barack Obama’s speech today in Wisconsin, the McCain campaign sent out a press release, whining that:
As Americans teeter on the edge of economic crisis, Barack Obama continued attacking John McCain today…
And here is the “attack” by Obama:
Let me lay this out, because I want everybody to know the differences between myself and Senator McCain in this campaign.
Yes, that was it. The only time McCain was mentioned in the entire speech. The Obama campaign’s response?
Given the fact that Barack Obama did not attack John McCain today, it is a telling admission that the McCain campaign saw Barack Obama’s attack on eight years of greed and irresponsibility in Washington as a personal attack on John McCain. We’ll leave it up to the McCain campaign to explain why they get so offended and defensive when George Bush’s record is attacked.
Indeed.

Posted by: razzer | October 1, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Why not Ray Saurez? He must be an improvement over Obama lover Ifill.

Posted by: geevill | October 1, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

repubs want someone on the level of palin——-maybe paris hilton—–no paris is too smart.

Posted by: rodney | October 1, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

it is already being reported in blogs that insiders in major newsrooms that news media are SO in the tank for Obama, it is ridiculous. It is very obvious in the media bias, always attacking every little thing about McCain and Palin, and ignoring HUGE issues about Obama.
There is no objectivtiy anymore.
William Randolph Hearst is turning in his grave. What happenned to our journalistic integrity?

Posted by: liberati | October 1, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

what would they talk about—–moose cookies—-hope they stay off the bridge to nowhere

Posted by: rodney | October 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

She should excuse herself from the Debate. There is you tube of her broadcasting from the Republican convention… She is bias, and has her own agenda….

Posted by: Patti | October 1, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Are you kidding?
There is no way that Gwen Ifill should be moderating the debate.
She is obviously biased towards Obama.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | October 1, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

OBAMA: ” Oh, absolutely not. Uh, because if you think about it, there was a deal struck between, uhh, Nancy Pelosi and, uh, the Republican leader, Bohner. Uh, the… Uh, the Democrats were supposed to get 120 votes. They got 140. So there was no sense on the Democratic side that we weren’t following through on our commitments. Uh, and apparently there were some problems on that side. I don’t think me calling House Republican members would have been that helpful. I tend not to be that persuasive — heh — on that side of the aisle.”
End of Transcript
So here is Obama. Our future leader. Mr. Change and unifier. He did not call any Republicans. He is not persuasive. Yet what will he do when he becomes president? So who did he call??? I am just curious.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | October 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

ha ha ha ha making excuses even before one is needed—future planing—wow the goes another russian plane.wave everybody

Posted by: rodney | October 1, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Poor Sarah.

Posted by: El_Pajaro | October 1, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

It has been known for many months Ifill is writing a book, the topic and the subject matter. Anyone complaining about anticipated bias, should ask the Mccain camp why they didn’t know about the book? Any slights or surprise on their part is a direct result of their own incompetence.

Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Liberati…
You need to check your history. William Randolph Hearst? Journalistic integrity? Is that what you call “yellow journalism”? Hearst was the king of anti-integrity journalism.

Posted by: ManOhManObama | October 1, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

So mccain’s groupies have their panties in a bunch because the moderator might not be exactly moderate. Get over it! Somebody should remind folks how Reverend Warren gave mccain his questions ahead of time for the religious debate- oh, how it hurts to draw the short straw for a change!

Posted by: Ron Sampson | October 1, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Hey, Jake, you can’t seriously think that Ifill is an appropriate moderator. Of the seemingly millions of so-called “journalists” these days, she is the one best qualified to do this? Give me a freakin’ break. This is why I get a big jolt of Schadenfreude ever time I read about more layoffs in the drive-by media. And this is why I’m goddamn outraged that PBS is taxpayer funded.

Posted by: The Oracle | October 1, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Wah Wah Wah. What a bunch of cry babies.
You could have Rush Limbaugh moderate this debate and Biden would still win.

Posted by: clifton | October 1, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Do you know what is so sad. Over 95% of the mainstream media is owned by rich white conservative males. There are only about ten conglomerates that own all of our newspapers. Look even at your local papers and almost all can be traced back to giant conglomerates. You are stupid enough to believe that the media has a “liberal bias” it is laughable. Just keep believing whatever these people tell you though to cover up all of their lies and stupidity. It is frightening that they can actually pull the wool over your eyes like this. Why don’t you actually investigate things, look at neutral, fact-checking organizations and voting records and then make educated comments. This blaming the media is sad and makes you look stupid.

Posted by: Jess | October 1, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Palin will wipe the floor with Biden. Uncle Joe can’t speak sentences longer than 10 words without sticking his foot in his mouth.
This Ifill wench as moderator comes as no surprise. She has a vested financial interest in make sure the Osama team wins the election.
Of *course* she’ll be “fair and balanced”. PBS is totally a political agnostic organization that never favors Democrats over Republicans.
LOL! Ok, how many of you out there are stupid enough to believe that about PBS?

Posted by: FredSmith | October 1, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

So Paige did you ever read the entire transcript of her interview with Hannity? Just curious. I think it is bad for women when any woman calls another woman stupid or insinuates that.
I am a democrat but I am going to play devils advocate here. Paige have you ever been a mayor? Or a governor? Have you ever ran for public office? Do you have a college degree at all?

Posted by: The Two Jakes | October 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

both campaigns had to agree to her being moderator! Too bad if the Republican party, with it’s outrageous amounts of corporate money, can’t do a little bit of research on who they are agreeing to be the moderator of their most important debate! It’s like whining about a jury being biased, when you had the right to help choose a fair jury. Too bad!!!

Posted by: Tianna | October 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Palin is actually a good debater so I don’t understand why the GOP are being such crybabies.

Posted by: Sandra | October 1, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Pailin is a bimbo—-sentences 2 nowhere

Posted by: minerva | October 1, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Jake, think it probably appropriate to let us know at this time your plans for authoring a book on this campaign. Have you picked a title yet? Have you picked a title yet? Are you going to reveal your deep biases?

Posted by: Dan McGlinchey | October 1, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

1) Ifill’s citation of Lou Cannon is risable indeed. What debate did he ever moderate…
2) Ifill is not only writing a book about Obama, but wrote a predictably gushing piece about the Obamas in Essence magazine recently; one where she breathlessly went out of her way to portray him as an amalgam of Jack Kennedy and Franklin Roosevelt.
3) While gushing over Michelle Obama at the DNC, “A lot of people have never seen anything that looks like a Michelle Obama before. She’s educated, she’s beautiful, she’s tall, she tells you what she thinks and they hope that she can tell a story about Barack Obama and about herself…”, and a rapturous commentary of Obama’s address-worthy of Kieth Olbermann, she delivered a laconic and dismissive commentary on Gov. Palin’s RNC address-all the while wearing a look of disgust and condescention.
4) She has already turnied in a biased performance during the 2004 VP debate. While fawning over John Edwards and taking a friendly tone, she was short, terse, and adversarial with Vice President Cheney.
5) She never told the commission, or the McCain campaign, about her in the works book.
Ms. Ifill is in the tank for Obama, just as are most of the MSM. And, not only is there an ideological basis for her disqualification, there is a financial one as well. The MSM, which treats the slightest appearance of impropriety breathlessly, beating dead horses for weeks on end sometimes-like G. Allen’s “macaca moment”, needs to be just as OUTRAGED! at Ifill; but sadly that is never the case for fellow liberals.
Although we may not see her recuse herself from this position, she should at least acknowledge, up front before beginning the questioning, her connection with, and unprecedented access to, the Obama campaign. To do any less would be a disservice to the candidates and the American people as a whole.
The question that has to be asked here is simple. If the situation were reversed, and a moderator that had written favorable articles as well as a book about politics in “the age of McCain”, would that person be forced to step down. Folks that are intellectually honest must admit that the answer would be yes; and it should be the same for Ms. Ifill…
Also; way to play that race card Ifill; doin’ it the Obama way…

Posted by: Bob | October 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

When Palin bites it, she and the right-wing will blame Gwen Ifill. Things must be going badly at the Sedonia Debate Camp. Might as well get things started with a preemptive strike.
I can see it now…Gwen Ifill lobs a softball just to avoid the insinuations.
Ifill: Sarah, what came first, World War I or World War II?
Palen: Like, I donʻt know, like World War II????? Like?
RNC post debate spin: we told you this would happen, itʻs all due to Ifillʻs liberal bias!

Posted by: mailani808 | October 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

Three words you won’t hear out of Ifill’s mouth:
“National Intelligence Estimate”
Ifill has been carrying water for the Bush administration for too many years.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

It was unclear how McCain definitively knew that the book, which is still being written, “is favorable to Sen. Obama.”
Gosh, Jake really?
Did it occur to you to read any of her past work, or even inquire about the title of this book that isn’t really even about Obama?

Posted by: The Haimster | October 1, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

anything to deflect the voters’ attention away from the real issue, which is that sarah palin cannot answer substantive questions. mccain has tried every trick in the book to keep us all distracted: “canceling” the first day of the republican convention so he could do photo ops after a hurricane; “suspending” his campaign in order to deal with the financial meltdown, and saying that he would not participate in the presidential debate until a deal was struck (still hasn’t happened); and now making vague (and baseless) insinuations about the moderator of the vice-presidential debate (who, if i’m not mistaken, he approved when the schedule was agreed to).
mccain: say and do anything to keep us from noticing that he has nothing new to say, and and that his running mate is completely ignorant of national affairs.
sad really. he has destroyed what had been a fine legacy.

Posted by: antijake | October 1, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

when you nominate someone with the mind of a child, and it comes time for her to stand up and speak for herself, she is most certainly going to show America what an idiot she is (if the previous 3 interviews are any indication). maybe McTroll can sit next to her during the debate and answer the questions for her. you people on the right are not all as moronic as Palen – you are just deeper in denial.

Posted by: mailani808 | October 1, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

absolutely the modertor issue is an absolute conflict of interest.
if obama/biden win the book makes money if he loses the book just becomes another publication.
so i guess biden gets the questions up front. it is no wonder he looks so relaxed lol.
this is shameful and disgraceful.
on the upside sarah appears as per her words confident and she stated that she will ‘just have to work harder’.
it is no wonder she is THE MOST POPULAR GOVERNOR in the U.S. you go girl!

Posted by: colorado | October 1, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Poor sad desperate Repubs, working the refs by smearing a respected journalist.
SHE’S BLACK, RIGHT?
SHE MUST BE BIASED FOR THE BLACK GUY, RIGHT?
RACE CARD!!! RACE CARD!!! RACE CARD!!!
Face it:
SARAH PALIN IS A LAUGHINGSTOCK.
JOHN McCAIN BLEW IT ON HIS FIRST MAJOR PRESIDENTIAL DECISION.
Sliming Gwen Ifill will not fix McCAIN’S MISTAKE.

Posted by: Ed from MA | October 1, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

I didn’t hear and Republicans complaining about Scheiffer who was a personal friend of Bush and whose brother is apparently a business partner of the Bush family!

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Two Jakes writes “did you ever read the entire transcript of her interview with Hannity? Just curious. I think it is bad for women when any woman calls another woman stupid or insinuates that.”
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No, I don’t watch or read infomercials. I have three degrees thank you very much. I also have two young children who have been to more countries, had their passports 8 years longer and can complete a full sentence which is something your VP is strained to do. Turn your hearing aid up as she really is unable to do that. It’s sad when SNL does not have to alter their comedy sketch to get a laugh. It makes me mad as there were 20 + highly qualified women that McCain could/should have chosen and he cowed to the far right wing of his party.
By the way – that wasn’t you playing “devil’s advoctae” that was you just being devilish.

Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Here is another example of why I (a longtime Democratic gay man) is actually considering the Republicans this year. I want to win too…truly I want people who represent my issues….but the way the Democrats and Obama are playing the game this year is just wrong (I’m also a UCC pastor and simply care about ethics and the “means justify the ends” playbook we’re using is not okay with me) It was bad enough watching sexism bring HRC down while the DNC stood by in utter silence. Its bad enough that even I can see how the mainstream media is simply in LOVE with Obama and is, therefore, biased on a daily basis. Now we’re going to have a moderator for the VP debate who says she’s intelligent and objective but when asked about her new book (which clearly includes the phrase in the “Age of OBAMA in its’ title) her reply was it’s okay…Obama is just a small part of my book! What!!!??? His name is in the title and she’s even named an Age after him!!! Who picked this moderator in the first place and what were they thinking??? Even the staunch Obama supporters (which I am not) are going to see this backfire! If Palin does poorly (as they expect her to do) they Reps. are just going to blame it on the moderator now. An abundandtly CLEAR even playing field is in everyone’s best interests. Unless, of course, you’re in one of these “do anything to win” groups! I’m not and I think this moderator choice is a HUGE mistake!

Posted by: gaypastor | October 1, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

i have full confidence that even given this obstacle sarah will do just fine.
what a good example she is setting by not whining and having a positive additive about the whole thing.
imagine if the moderator was writing a book about mccain/palin the dems would be hysterical.

Posted by: colorado | October 1, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Let’s see then. Let’s schedule one more debate, and let Rush Limbaugh be the moderator. Duh!
It’s a professional conflict of interest. This has nothing to do with race, or being scared. You all know damn well you’d scoff if someone has a book due out in a few months, about McCain, and he/she were going to moderate a VP debate.
Let’s not forget the bigger picture here, Jake! If this is not such a big deal, then why did Ms. Ifill not disclose this to the Commission, if there is nothing to this? Hmmm?
The host of PBS’ “Washington Week” and senior correspondent on “The NewsHour” said she did not tell the Commission on Presidential Debates about the book. The commission had no immediate comment when contacted by The Associated Press. A spokeswoman for John McCain’s campaign did not immediately return phone and e-mail messages.
So the press is ok with being in the tank for a socialist eh? Some student today was gunned down in Venezuela for daring to speak out against Chavez’s changes to the Constitution.
I have a feeling, with all of Obama’s truth squads out there, and rex 84 being a go….we all better start watching what we say.
Need some chapstick Jake? Charlie? Katie?

Posted by: Jeanie | October 1, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

gaypastor – I highly doubt you would vote for a ticket where the VP banned the book, DADDY’S ROOMMATE, written by a minister for children to help them negotiate childhood with a gay parent or parents.

Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

We’ve seen the lack of civility and rudeness of McCain during the first Presidential debate, and we just saw more of that on the Senate floor. Report:
“WASHINGTON – It was Senator Barack Obama who crossed the aisle.
As the senators gathered to vote on the $700 billion financial rescue package on Wednesday evening, Mr. Obama walked over to the Republican side of the chamber to extend a greeting to Senator John McCain.
He got a chilly response.
While it took Mr. Obama several seconds to make his way over to see his rival, Mr. McCain barely pivoted his body as he took Mr. Obama’s hand for a handshake that lasted just a moment. The eye contact was just as brief.”
A man as rude as the nasty McCain should NEVER become President of this country. He should be deeply ashamed of himself, for giving such a bad example to millions of Americans.

Posted by: henda | October 1, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

SPECIAL OFFER 2 IN 1 FOR MCFAILIN’:
1.try to scare the moderator into a corner where she might be afraid to be biased towards one candidate 2. give the excuse for Palins inevitable failure already beforehand
The McCain campaign seems to think that Americans are quite dumb and will buy this one too. (By the way, they don’t care much what the media say, according to their statements short after the convention. Did this change now?)

Posted by: Truth matters | October 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

This is not a book ABOUT Obama; it is a book about the culture since the age of civil rights and how that movement changed things. The very small piece about Obama within the book, WHICH HAS NOT YET BEEN WRITTEN, is simply a snapshot within the larger context of the civil rights movement. All these people condeming this respected journalist don’t even do their homework to KNOW what the book is about; they assume, from the title it is ENTIRELY about Obama and also that it will be all favorable. Sounds like pressure from the right to go completely soft on Palin or else they will spin this.

Posted by: lily | October 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

first question for gov. palin: governor, can you please explain for us what the difference is between a federalist and a states’ rights supporter?
second question: can you please describe the constitutional right to privacy, and how it relates to roe v. wade?
read the transcript of the most recent segment of her interview with katie couric. it’s absolutely clear that she knows less about either issue than most high school students.

Posted by: antijake | October 1, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

McCain cannot win here. He said that she will moderate professionally. The interviewer is the one who asked about the book which had the sub-title on it saying, “the era of Obama”. Secondly, she is known to be a supporter for Obama. This author is obviously a supporter for Obama, too. This author has never written a favorable blog for any republicans esp. during election. He sure spinned to his favor. McCain gave an honest answer. Plus, Gwen could make half million dollars or more, if Obama does win the election. So, she should be careful.

Posted by: yodaxl7 | October 1, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

Ifill in the last Vice-Presidential Debate simply took each campaign’s talking points and regurgitated them as her own questions. It was totally inane. It was more like a joint press conference than a debate. She has no depth, and was unable to take the debate out of the realm of fantasy. Maybe it was the rules and not her, but she looked really weak.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Here’s how the last debate went:
IFILL: Mr. Edwards, you were a trial lawyer. Doesn’t that make you part of the problem?
Really stupid.

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

McCain, Pailin and Giuliani, me thinks thou protest too much.

Posted by: Giovanna Lepore | October 1, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

CLEARLY UNFAIR, THE MODERATOR SHOULD AS A PROFESSIONAL OBVIOUSLY EXCUSED HERSELF WEEKS, MONTHS AGO. THE DEBATE COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION ALSO FAILED TO KEEP IT FAIR-they should still act before the debate and replace her!
Suggest improprity, that alone intimates such bias from something so important-Obama gets questions beforehand, the questions are “OBama” questions, –it is ridiculous!!
ps- Palin is a breath of fresh air versus Biden and dems
I am an independant, loved Robert Kennedy, but the choice here is between a man of strenth-McCain, and disastor.

Posted by: FLALEO | October 1, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Sarah can just ban that book.

Posted by: Brian G | October 1, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

ok. the moderator is not scoring the debate, nor selected the questions, but is ther to make sure the candidates follow the rules.

Posted by: Danny | October 1, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

During the “Faith Debate” Obama’s first choice to take advice of all the people in the world was his wife Michelle. In Michelle’s thesis, finally available to read on the Internet, she states “There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost.” It would not be unreasonable to conclude that the influence of a spouse will more often than not influence the other spouse to take on similar beliefs, like actions or characterizations.
This Presidency is about race. The citizens of the United States would never put their very lives in the hands of a Community Organizer with shady Chicago connections, connections with Acorn, a group that uses intimidation and threats, connections and worked with a known terrorist (Bill Ayers), taught by a man Obama called “Frank” from his book Dreams of My Father (a known communist), spent some 20 years in a radical religious church with the Rev. Wright teaching “hate” for the white population, a man that now forms the “Obama Truth Squad” to fight freedom of the press and wants to bring socialism to America.

Posted by: Ann | October 1, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

thanx for deleting my comment, who ever it was im giving u the finger right now. Truth is in the mind of the ppl and only rebels speak it. the gov. wouldnt kno that though cuz even though u might think its true….its just a cover up story for their mistake. why doesnt the gov. go under oath and tell the citizens what really happend on 911

Posted by: Evelyn | October 1, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

This is just part of the Republician noise-machine. Let’s yell about anything except the last eight years.
Obama gets hammered on right-wing radio all day, every day and he still faces Bill O’Reilly head on.
McCain and Palin duck and run from the media because — surprisingly — the media want to actually ask them QUESTIONS and aren’t showing them appropriate “deference.”
Hey, remember George W. in 2000? He was a litte rough around the edges, but we liked him because he was “just like us” and would be “fun to have a beer with.”
Don’t let history repeat itself.

Posted by: VegasForTheVote | October 1, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

I especially liked Ifills hardball questions for Cheney, like this one:
IFILL: Mr. Vice President, don’t you think it would be dangerous to have Mr. Kerry as President?
Clearly, she is a shill for the Democratic Party…

Posted by: Mike | October 1, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

It didn’t seem to bother Palin. Let it roll. I suspect Palin can handle Ifill fine.
I’m looking forward to this debate. I want to watch Donna Brazille and Campbell Brown sweat on camera. They know their careers are on the line.

Posted by: len | October 1, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm


ok. the moderator is not scoring the debate, nor selected the questions, but is ther to make sure the candidates follow the rules.
Posted by: Danny ”
Excuse me, you need to research before you post,
Ifill IS selecting the questions. She’s MAKING the questions.
Palin handled it with class and confidence. She’s not whining about it. Nor is McCain. McCain AND Palin are in their rights to call for another moderator.
No matter how you want to spin it, There IS a conflict of interest in Ifill’s participation in this. If you take a journalism course (and Ifill has) in the first week you learn the Ethics of Journalism. And Ifill is breaking those ethics, period. Like it or not, she is.
And Mac and Palin are not pressing the issue, although the REST of us are. Why? Because the Libtards would be frothing out their panties if the situation were reversed.
What’s good for them, is good for us.
There WILL be a firestorm over this, even after the debate. Maybe even lawsuits and ethical hearings. This won’t happen next election cycle.
The Debate Commission is already getting a hearing. It’s part of the PBS Network, a NON PARTISAN organization that is funded as much with my taxes, as yours. Allowing Ifill to moderate this, and get paid with public funds, is like you paying for the bullet that killed you.
We aren’t going to let this one go.
And Ifill’s little Journal will be next.

Posted by: RoBoTech | October 1, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

And Jake
“It was unclear how McCain definitively knew that the book, which is still being written, “is favorable to Sen. Obama.”"
Simple, the preview on Amazon says “Barack Obama’s STUNNING campaign”.
You figure it out

Posted by: RoBoTech | October 1, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

and, what about george stephanopolis’ unbiased interview with obama? does he deserve the same scrutiny re ethics?

Posted by: war-tym | October 1, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

If she’s so biased… why did the McCain campaign agree to have her as moderator. Seems like yet another incidence of bad judgment.
Tired old politics from tired old people.

Posted by: Tj | October 1, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Tom Brokaw used outdated info on sunday’s meet the press and has yet to inform the audience of his bias. Bob Schieffer actually had to be pulled off a pro republican story at one time. And they will both be moderating with their candidate onstage just like charlie gibson. so spare me the whining about Gwen Ifill. I would just hope it doesn’t change how Ifill will handle the alaskan wondermop.
If mccain’s mulligan men didn’t know what a lot of others did, it proves they can’t multitask or properly manage a campaign. mccain himself has no issue with it.
Only sarah palin’s witch doctor would know what else they would destroy if they got to the white house.

Posted by: kravitz | October 1, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

“If she’s so biased… why did the McCain campaign agree to have her as moderator.”
If she had any integrity she would have bowed out gracefully.

Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

To all the folks here who want to just write this off as “Republican noise” and “no big thing”, let’s flip the script…If it was discovered two days before the only VP debate that a white, female moderator was working on a book extolling the breakthroughs of women in politics, and that moderator stood to benefit financially from book royalties if the first female made it to the White House, WOULD YOUR TAKE BE THE SAME?

Posted by: Stajack | October 1, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Please Jake!!!! IF Obama becomes President, Ifill becomes a very rich woman. If he loses, she won’t sell any of the books. So please don’t expect anyone not drinking the koolaid to believe she doesn’t have a very vested interest in seeing Obama win. That translates to conscious or unconscious bias on behalf of her moderation tomorrow night. It’s as simple as that.
As pointed out, were this someone writing a book featuring Palin who would profit should Palin be elected, then the left would be calling for heads on platters.
Remember Jake, keep it REAL, keep it fair, keep it legit under the code of ethics.
Remember those?

Posted by: Brenda | October 2, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

If I were McCain camp….I’d say , get another moderator or we’re not there. This woman has a vested interest in an Obama/Biden win, so she can make a bundle off her dumb book out in Jan. I can imagine the screaming from the Obama camp if the moderator had a Gov. Palin book coming out in Jan. Biden wouldn’t probably care but Obama/Axlerod would….and they would have to switch moderators.
My ticket is taking the high road as always….McCain needs to get tougher and drop the etiquette, take off the gloves and get into the ring. Something better drop (some bombshell) by mid Oct. Doesn’t matter…I’ll be voting McCain/Palin no matter the debate rehash.

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

I think Obama should have her replaced but it’s too late. The last thing I want is for that airhead to have any excuses for her poor debate performance tonight. Because she wont be able to get away with given BS vague answers like she can with her moron supporters.
All Iffen has to do is ask her specifics and Palin is sunk. Because her skill seems to be answering the question by not answering the question.
And because most of her core supporters are complete morons it works.

Posted by: JN | October 2, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

John McCain stated tonight that he was unaware that Gwen was writing a book which includes Barack Obama… that is a lie because this information was divulged to him and he still agreed to have her as a moderator. The McCain camp has watered down this debate in favor of Palin so it doesn’t even matter. There will be no discussion between the candidates. The moderator can’t control the outcome or even referee. It will be quite boring actually. She asks Palin a question and she answers…. she asks Biden a question and he answers….. no discussion … move on.

Posted by: Ron | October 2, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

JN
On the other hand it could be all a trick and she really does know issues just settign low expectations so she can destroy biden

Posted by: staniam | October 2, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Earth to republicans! Palin is the woman you selected to be a heartbeat from the presidency.
How is Eliza Doolittle, er, Sarah Palin going to show us she is ready to lead the free world if she cannot handle a simple debate moderated by a respected US newsperson?
Are you prepared to whine about EVERY question that will be put to her after McCain becomes incapacitated or dies?
You’ve REALLY gotta drop your sexist treatment of your own candidate. It is unbecoming.

Posted by: Robert | October 2, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

Henda at 10:17…and Obama gave Hillary the brush off a few months ago in the Senate when she reached out to shake Ted Kennedy’s hand and BO turned away….he knows how to play the game and dis his opponent too.

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Does anyone on the right have a clue? There was an AP article about Ifill that identified her as the writer of this book in July. There was a Time Magazine article about Ifill and the book in mid-Aug. Both articles quoted the title of the book. That makes it clear that Ifill wasn’t hiding anything. Palin was chosen by McCain in late Aug. AFTER all that occurred, the McCain campaign agreed to the terms of the debates, along with approving the moderators. It seems like the McCain campaign and the right-wingers are doing one of two things here – lying and pretending they didn’t know about the book (even though it was public knowledge) until yesterday to set up some excuse in case Palin goes in the tank, or being truthful that their literacy skills are so poor that they really did not know about the articles before agreeing to Ifill’s role in the debates. Either way, it looks far worse for the McCain campaign and the right-wingers like Limbaugh, Fox News, etc. than it does for Gwen Ifill. Becides, you would think Palin herself would have known about Ifill’s book given the Governor’s extensive reading list as outlined for Katie Couric…

Posted by: Paul | October 2, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

Hey Ron…what are you doing in the basement blogging? Not big enough or smart enough to serve your country….City Council, Mayor, maybe Governor….you think ANYONE can do the job and get a 80% approval rating?
Funny how the Obama camp sent 30 investigators to Alaska to dig some dirt on Gov. Palin and guess what they came up with? NOTHING.
Can’t wait til the McCain campaign roll out the attack ads in late Oct. on Obama’s friends and associates…Americans don’t like their Presidents running with hateful racists, terriorists or criminals….AND REPUBLICANS WILL START AIRING SOME ADS, not approved by McCain. Obama campaign is hoping Americans will forget everyone that Obama threw under the bus to stay in this campaing…..WE WON’T. Wonder if his typical white granny is still under the bus?

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

Obama has successfully gamed the system unless someome stops him and that remains to be seen

Posted by: stanaim | October 2, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

Maybe Ifill might be biased toward Palin because she also is female!
This is so stupid. As she said, the proof is in the pudding. I’ve watched Ifill for a long time on the Newshour and Washington Week and have tried to detect in this election which candidate she prefers. I still don’t know.
She is top notch.

Posted by: cincyr | October 2, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

There is no question of “insinuation” — this is OUTRIGHT CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Then, whey, pray is she releasing this book ON THE DAY OF TEH FREAKIN ANOINTMENT OF BARACK OBAMA? If Barack wins, she stands to make a lot of money. If Barack loses, then her book is relegated to the long list of losers. She stands to gain so much personally by Barack winning. This has got nothing to do with her skin color, as her pal Howie Kurtz is alleging in his media rounds today. It is NOT Ifill’s fault that she is the chosen affirmative action moderator for this year’s Presidential debate. The fault lies in with the goddamn Presidential Election Commission fr not doing their homework, in exploring/investigating any potential conflicts of interest. Did you notice how liberals are hiding under the shield of “racism” for allegations that are self-evident. They have been caught with their pants down and hate it. PBS is a liberal agenda machine, partially funded by a tax-base, half of which disgarees with PBS’ leftist hosts and programs.

Posted by: Jakester | October 2, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

What’s the big deal? Sarah Palin will be treated like a little princess, she will lie her little head off and probably win the debate, and John McCain has already said the respects the moderator. I don’t happen to like her much – I remember her questions from 2004 – and I thought they were dull and predictable – but the debate will go on, Sarah will win, and then we can all move on and read the alternative bailout bill that the lobbyists wrote for the crackers in the House. The version I read had a) retoractive tax breaks for corporations which had lost money b) tax breaks for American companies which had shipped jobs overseas c) capital gains cuts and d) a return to pre-Enron accounting. Bad for accounting majors and bad for all of us. Happy reading. You will think it’s a joke – but the House members (and their lobbyists) are going to force it down.

Posted by: mara | October 2, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

This is unbelievable! I cannot beleive it is less than 24 hours before the VP Debate and Gwen Ifill is the chosen Moderator!??? WHAT? Who the heck is responsible for selection of the moderator? Obviously the left wing media…as usual! Like they didn’t know about the book? And of course she didn’t share that info with them either. Why would they choose a black woman,that has written a book about Obama, due out the very same day as the inauguration. Yeah, she has nothing to gain from this..? What a joke!
Let’s have Bill O’Reilly or Shawn Hannity moderate one of the the debates for McCain and Obama…yeah, sure…that would fly. I am so sick of this underhanded nonsense from the left winged liberals, it makes me ill!

Posted by: Sasse | October 2, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

“This is unbelievable! I cannot beleive it is less than 24 hours before the VP Debate and Gwen Ifill is the chosen Moderator!??? WHAT? Who the heck is responsible for selection of the moderator?”
________________________________________
Both campaigns signed off on all the moderators months ago.

Posted by: BMS in NC | October 2, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

Both campaigns signed off on all the moderators months ago.
_______________________________________
My point exactly! Did she divulge that information on the book she was writing,
“months ago”…I seriously doubt it! That was HER responsibility to let everyone know that upfront, not wait until two days before!

Posted by: Raleigh, NC | October 2, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am

Joe Biden was chosen for VP, for his honesty free spirit and his experience!
He’s supposed to make a point when is needed. Sarah Plain was chosen for the position after only one meeting .The decisive factor was only the women’s vote and the prerequisite to be the John McCain cheerleader. She makes only scripted interviews and has very thin Resume. Sarah Plain VP? Thanks but not thanks!

Posted by: foreclosure | October 2, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

Obama as President…thanks, but no thanks. Even Hillary and Bill are voting McCain….Biden too….he loves his old friend of 33 years, John.
We’re all in agreement….OBAMA NOT READY, NO CRED….NO JUDGEMENT…LET’S RUN THOSE CLIPS AGAIN!

Posted by: DLM | October 2, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

Some of us prefer those who are from the top of their class. The special interest lobby groups prefer to be represented by those from the top of their class. If we do not do likewise we will get taken advantage of. Again!!!

Posted by: Michael Steib | October 2, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am

They keep making excuses to bail out Palin.
BOTH campaigns agreed with the moderator and now the Pubs want to whine about it. “Media bias”, gotcha questions”, “partial moderator”…..
Any other lame excuses for Palin?
Hope she doesn’t ask about newspapers again. Boy, that was a tough one!

Posted by: Cheese with that whine? | October 2, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am

My point exactly! Did she divulge that information on the book she was writing,
“months ago”…I seriously doubt it!
———————–
Actually she did announce her book before she was chosen as moderator.And the Pubs still accepted it.
So move on to the next excuse.
If Plain hadn’t been an embarrassment on every interview, this wouldn’t be an issue. The Pubs are already trying to make the moderator an issue so if Palin flails AGAIN, “it’s not really her fault”.

Posted by: More cheese? More whine? | October 2, 2008, 6:34 am 6:34 am

5) She never told the commission, or the McCain campaign, about her in the works book.
———————
Sorry Bob,
The book was announced BEFORE she was chosen as moderator.
I’m amazed at how Republicans just can’t accept the fact that Palin is a disgrace. She is a laughing stock.
That’s not to say she isn’t ‘nice’, but she is in no way ready for national politics.
Johnny “Maverick” McCain BLEW IT!
He wanted Liberman, he was TOLD to take Palin. Some “maverick”. He didn’t even chose his own running mate. He let his party pick this joke.

Posted by: Rachel in VA | October 2, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

It is such a joke the way people say Palin is unqualified. Look at the state of this world that has been run by men — qualified????? I don’t think so. They have messed everything up so badly — Sarah Palin with all of her common sense and courage — she is more than qualified.

Posted by: woman | October 2, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

Ifill’s book doesn’t come out until Jan 20 (innauguration), but how amusing…I searched Amazon for “Obama’s books”. What a long list (many written by the narciscist himself. I laugh. The messiah… conjured out of thin air.

Posted by: Cindy K | October 2, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am

“5) She never told the commission, or the McCain campaign, about her in the works book.
———————
Sorry Bob,
The book was announced BEFORE she was chosen as moderator. ”
—————-
The book was announced, but she never told the commission about it. The two points are not mutually exclusive.
She should have explicitly told the commission – it’s not just her reputation on the line – it’s theirs. She not only gives Palin reason to question her objectivity, she gives the commission a black eye by showing them to be either knowingly allowing a person with a conflict of interest moderate, or missing the fact, suggesting they are derelict in their duties.

Posted by: Daniel | October 2, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

“Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama”
“Obama’s story will be only a small part of the book … She has yet to write the chapter on Obama, Ifill said, and she wondered why anyone would assume the book will be favorable to Obama.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Cindy K: Does “many” equal 2? because that’s the number of books Obama has written.
woman: Your point seems to be that since Bush/Cheney have screwed things up so badly, that Palin must be qualified. (Because she has common sense and courage? How about good judgment or honesty?) Well, I don’t know about you, but I’m looking to trade up this election. I’ve had enough lies and mediocrity from my government.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Posted by: Tom | October 2, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

“I remember her questions from 2004 – and I thought they were dull and predictable … “

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

How many, Tom?
Count co-authored.
You are ill-informed. Second chance.
Tell me how many times has the Bush administration warned of the impending financial meltdown. (And McCain who drafted a bill which was tabled, ignored by the Democrats.)
What DOES Bush or Cheney have to do with this bailout bill? Stuff happens on their watch? The chickens come home to roost? Like 9/11, Katrina, Fannie Mae and FreddieMac?
The last eight years have been nothing more than constant “putting out fires”. Working with what you inherit.
Last question: What is the party affiliation of Dodd, Frank, Raines, and Obama?
You think Keating 5 was a scandal, wait til this bailout unravels.

Posted by: Cindy K | October 2, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Ya gotta love Republicans grasping for someone to blame for Palin’s debate performance before the woman even has a chance to open her mouth.
Ifill’s book deal was announced well in advance of both campaigns signing off on her as a debate moderator. If her purported “bias” was an issue, the McCain campaign should have objected at the time.
This is another stunt from a campaign comprised of stunts.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | October 2, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

These Guys are politicians and they sure know how to turn the tides in their favor.
McCain is worried that recent days have shown that Mrs Palin has both limited knowledge of Domestic and International Affairs. She only seems to do well when issues about Alaska are being discussed.
The fear is so morbid now that they would have prefered that the thursday’s debate never holds.
That was why McCain played the stunt of suspending his Campaign and asking for a postponement of his the first Presiential Debate with Senator Obama.
Allowing Gwen Ifill to moderate is like giving Ammo to McCain’s Arsenal.
If Sarah Palin performs badly, they will use Gwen Ifill as a straw to hold on to justify her poor performance.
A Governor of a State that doesn’t know any other Supreme Court judgments apart from Roe vs Wade?
I suggest that Gwen Ifill steps down and allow another Moderator to handle the debate.
Be that as it may, I wish to point out that the name of the Moderators were made public to allow either of the Campaigns to show its reservation.
McCain’s campaign kept quiet and waited for less than two day to the debates before complaining.
This action is unpresidential and it smacks of great despiration when a party to a game decides to change the rules mid-way.
Isn’t there a maxim in law that says “Volunti non fit injuria”?

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | October 2, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

“How many, Tom?
Count co-authored.
You are ill-informed. Second chance.”
Well, then by that count, if Obama is a “messiah conjured out of thin air”, what does that make McCain? Methuselah conjured out of bald lies? McCain has written at least 5 books about HIMSELF.
Say what you want about bailouts and “warnings” from the Bush administration (because their track record on warnings is stellar), polling numbers on the economy show Americans just don’t trust McPalin on the money…
“The Issue Of Economics Is Not Something I’ve Understood As Well As I Should” – John McCain
That’s exactly who I want running the country right now. Unless he was just lying about that, too.
PS to Dare Nigeria, don’t break out Latin on this crowd, they’ll burn you at the stake for being an inside-the-beltway elitist.

Posted by: Ton | October 2, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

No big deal she is black and favors obama, why worry? It’s the same-o-same-o media trickery, lets stack the cards for obama anyway we can. When the market crumbled it was not mentioned that Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae (chief economic adviser obamas camp), Tim Howard, Fannie Mae (another chief economic adviser obamas camp), Jim Johnson, Lehman Bros. and Fannie Mae (senior finance adviser to obama) were 3 of the main corrupt executive’s that caused the crumble and got a “golden parachute” Rains 240M, Howard 20M and Johnson 28M. These are the guys that are part of the “CHANGE” team!?!…wake up America obama will take us down.!

Posted by: M/P 08 | October 2, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Tom,
Change We Can Believe Obama
Dreams of My Father Obama
Audacity of Hope Obama
Barack Obama, In His Own Words (co-author)
The Essential Barack Obama: Grammy
Award Winning Recordings – Obama
The State of Black America 2007
(co-author)
Barack Obama vs John McCain: Side by Side Voting Record for Easy Comparison authored by both Obama and McCain
Barack Obama: What He Believes In – From His Own Works – Obama and Senate
To address the rest of your post, what does Bush or Cheney have to do with the worst crisis during the last 8 years?
The entire two terms of Bush’s presidency has been nothing more than constant putting out fires. You know, as Rev. Wright says, the chickens come home to roost.
Bin Laden, 9/11, Al Quada, N. Karea, Katrina, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Chavez, Putin and an almost nuclear Iran, and now the Wall Street pigs are bacon. And Bush inherited a bunch of bloated, unqualified and incompetent government bureaucracies to deal with it.
How many times has the Bush admin. warned of this impending financial crisis? Is there a bill with McCain’s name on it almost three years ago, that was tabled/ignored by the Dems?
Dodd, Frank, Pelosi, Raines…what party affiliation? If you think the Keating 5 was a scandal…you can bet your sweet patootie the Dems want Obama IN office before the details behind the bailout are unwound.
And that’s the RUSH behind the bailout.
If Obama wins in November…too late to save you. Socialism, fascism. You’re closer than you think.

Posted by: Cindy K | October 2, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

“I suggest that Gwen Ifill steps down and allow another Moderator to handle the debate.
Be that as it may, I wish to point out that the name of the Moderators were made public to allow either of the Campaigns to show its reservation.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

“Bin Laden, 9/11, Al Quada, N. Karea, [sic] Katrina, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Chavez, Putin and an almost nuclear Iran, and now the Wall Street pigs”
I love how Republicans give Bush credit for putting out fires that he and his party started. Like McCain trumpeting the success of the surge, when he was leading us into the mess (Bush or McCain, take your pick.)
Under fascism, the corporation is the government. Who has done more to increase the size of government and integrate governmental and corporate spheres than the Bush White House and Republican Congress of 2000-2006?
Keep arguing about authorship tallies, while your party goes down in flames. And when Obama wins in November you can take some of the extra money you’ll have from his tax cuts for the middle class and buy some of his many books.
You probably will even have some left over to subscribe to some newspapers or magazines…
“Any one specifically?”
“All of ‘em!” (Thanks Sarah!)

Posted by: Tom | October 2, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

All of you pubs are whining about a “black woman” moderator and that Obama would complain if the moderator was a “white woman”. That argument is so stupid. Did you hear Obama whine when the moderator of the first debate was a “white man?” NOT!!!
Just get some candidates with a little intelligence and you wouldn’t have to keep making up all of these ”
Hail Mary” stunts to draw attention from the real issues.

Posted by: godOFn00bs | October 2, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

“All of you pubs are whining about a “black woman” moderator and that Obama would complain if the moderator was a “white woman”. That argument is so stupid. Did you hear Obama whine when the moderator of the first debate was a ‘white man?’”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Gwen Iffel is black so of course she is biased to Obma.

Posted by: Micael | October 2, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Belle Starr,
You will agree with me that Sarah Palin is an empty Suit.
After watching her interview with Kate Couric, my folks had to call me from Nigeria to ask whether therE is a dearth of Intelligent Politicians in the US that this Woman had to be put on a presidential ticket at this time when America needs its best brains to revamp its economic misfortune.
They wondered how she won the Gubernitorial seat of Alaska if she is this porous, intelligence wise.
They are looking forward to more comic reliefs from her during the thursday’s debate.
To think that America is being made a laughing stock on account of her being on the ticket while her supporters are crying of sexism, make me shudder.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | October 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Obama didn’t complain about having a white Jim Lehrer moderating the debate because Lehrer’s political bias, if he has one, is not obvious. And he doesn’t have a book about McCain coming out.
Ifill should have recused herself stating a conflict in interest. If the tables were turned, the Democrats and MSM would demand it.
To insinuate that Republicans are worried is nonsense. Ifill is on notice and will do her best.
And you forget that Palen is debating gaffe-a-minute Biden. It’s rumored if he screws up, Obama is likely to dump Biden and put Hillary in his place. No loyalty, anything for a win.
McCain will back Palin til the end.

Posted by: Cindy K | October 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

“Obama’s white-woman problem is well known, from his own grandmother to Hillary Clinton”
Seriously? Well known?
“but that she’s stilted, unimaginative” Well if that’s the McCain campaign’s objection, that shouldn’t be news to them. Then again, neither should the book be, since it’s been available info for MONTHS.
“It IS perfectly true that Ifill were some OTHER color”
Wow. “Color” eh? As in “colored folks only”?
And I love the claim that if Ifill weren’t black she’d be out as moderator… Kinda like how if Palin didn’t have a uterus, she’d be… uh… off the ticket, I guess.
BTW, no one on Obama’s campaign is complaining about Brokaw (obvious pro-McCain bias) and Schieffer (obvious pro-Republican, friend of W) moderating debates 2 and 3. Is it because Obama is not worried even with a biased moderator, or because this is McCain’s shiny object distraction for this week.

Posted by: Tom | October 2, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

“Both articles quoted the title of the book. That makes it clear that Ifill wasn’t hiding anything.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

“You will agree with me that Sarah Palin is an empty Suit.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Gwen Ifill,
Please step down.
You will be doing us a disservice if you allow McCain’s Campaign to explain the dismal performace of Sarah Palin in the debate because you are the Moderator.
Pleaseeeee. The times are precarious and dangerous. We need to get down to brass tack and we need to know who is capable between the Veepee Nominees, to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
Gwen, do us that favor and step down.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | October 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

“And I love the claim that if Ifill weren’t black she’d be out as moderator…”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Belle Star, so much to work with in so few words! Well done!
“financial involvement with Obama”
As in writing a book that discusses him? Doesn’t that mean Jerome Corsi is financially involved with Obama, too?
“who’s not established him/herself as an Obama partisan”
Has Gwen Ifill done this? If so please provide citation.
As opposed to Tom Brokaw making up pro-McCain poll results “in the interest of fairness.”
Or Schieffer:
I promise you, you will not hear the Obama camp complain about these moderators.
“who has a clear financial interest in his seizure of the presidency”
The last time I checked, with the exception of 2000, we elected presidents by voting through the electoral college. No seizure necessary, although if I have to keep reading these misinformed posts, I’m going to have a seizure of my own.

Posted by: Tom | October 2, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

“If the tables were turned, the Democrats and MSM would demand [replacing Ifill as moderator].”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

“I think the criticism and the attacks have been unprecedented…”
“Frankly, I wish they had picked a moderator that isn’t writing a book favorable to Barack Obama.”
“Life isn’t fair…”
John McCain, October 2, 2008

Posted by: Rudy | October 2, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Its pathetically transparent that they are building the excuse for a Palin failure.
Do they really have this little faith in her?

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

“No seizure necessary, although if I have to keep reading these misinformed posts, I’m going to have a seizure of my own.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

“And I love the claim that if Ifill weren’t black she’d be out as moderator…”

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

First: Enough with the ad hominem attacks. Whether or not you think Ifill is “pompous” should have nothing with her ability to fairly moderate a debate.
Second: PBS is not liberal… Bush appointed a Republican hack to actively push right-wing agendas on PBS.
And did you ever notice that two of Fox News’ contributors to Sunday Morning are Juan Williams and Mara Liasson of PBS?
Third:
The majority of your arguments that don’t deal with race bias go something like this:
If X had happened then the Liberal Media would have done Y…
Well, I guess I can’t disprove that, can I?
Try this on for size:
If McCain weren’t such a dishonest, pandering, two-faced, anti-American hack, he’d win the election.
Oh. I guess we can see if that one really will happen.
Have fun watching tonight.

Posted by: Tom | October 2, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

“So the Jesse Jackson FDR Democrat thinks Gwen Ifill is an affirmative action hire.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

This is a bit ridiculous. She is biased. It’s the legal definition of bias to have a financial stake in the outcome. She might be fair, but so might Michele Obama. Saying the McCain campaign is “insinuating” bias is unfair. There is bias: if Obama wins, her book will certainly sell better than if he loses. She, and the commission, would be better off stepping aside and letting someone else stand in.

Posted by: Dan | October 2, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Dan made the first cogent, logical argument against Ifill I’ve seen. But I still doubt that the bias will affect 1.) the way the debate goes, and 2.) the election.
A Barack Obama presidency is probably better for Rush Limbaugh, ratings-wise and financially, but no one is calling him biased in favor of Obama.

Posted by: Tom | October 2, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Belle…
You claimed to be an Edwards supporter than railed about having lawyers on the Democratic ticket.
You claim to be a Jesse Jackson Democrat then rail about a woman keeping her job based on the color of her skin.
Phil Tuckman McCain campaign worker based in Arlington training ghost writers for the campaign: “You can be whoever you want to be,” “You can be a beggar or a millionaire. A mom or a husband. Whatever. You decide!”

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Give us all a break, Jake. You’re inching farther and farther to the left. Unfortunately, you’re just one in a large herd of sheep(le). Let’s have a conservative journalist conduct the debate. Oh, wait, there isn’t one. Say hello to the next socialist republic, people.

Posted by: Casey | October 2, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

“Saying the McCain campaign is “insinuating” bias is unfair. There is bias: if Obama wins, her book will certainly sell better than if he loses.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

“Let’s have a conservative journalist conduct the debate. Oh, wait, there isn’t on”
Exactly.
Journalists search for the truth and challenge power therefore “conservative journalist” is an oxymoron.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

“You claimed to be an Edwards supporter than railed about having lawyers on the Democratic ticket.
You claim to be a Jesse Jackson Democrat then rail about a woman keeping her job based on the color of her skin.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

What did Ifill hide?

Posted by: Tom | October 2, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

“What did Ifill hide?”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

“Phil Tuckman McCain campaign worker based in Arlington training ghost writers for the campaign: “You can be whoever you want to be,” “You can be a beggar or a millionaire. A mom or a husband. Whatever. You decide!”
So Belle who else do you play on the board?

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

“So Belle who else do you play on the board?”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

As to Palin:
“She is the most searched term on the New York Times Web site for the last 30 days. Her Wikipedia page drew 6 million visits last month, three times as many as McCain’s or Barack Obama’s.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Obama supporters are th rones who know about making excuses after a debate loss (it was George and Charlie’s fault, right?)

Posted by: geevill | October 2, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

“Obama supporters are th rones who know about making excuses after a debate loss (it was George and Charlie’s fault, right?)”
Actually both Clinton and Obama supporters were outraged at that debate which spent more time on the horserace aspect and took 45 minutes before a policy question was asked.
As usual, the right wing revise history to suit their purpose for a given moment.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

“As to Palin:
“She is the most searched term on the New York Times Web site for the last 30 days. Her Wikipedia page drew 6 million visits last month, three times as many as McCain’s or Barack Obama’s.”
And what people have found is that she is unqualified.
Look at how her approval ratings dive in the last 3 weeks.
Her approval rating among women in the CBS poll went from 47% to 30%….with women!

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

“Richland, Wash.: For your role as a journalist or debate anchorman, I am wondering about your impartiality with political figures. I read somewhere that your brother was a partner of George W. Bush in the Texas Rangers venture, and that you often were invited to participate in Gov. Bush’s hunting parties.
Bob Schieffer: The fact that my brother as a young man was a business partner of George Bush is no secret — I wrote about it in my book “This Just In” and I talked about it on television when I interviewed George Bush during the 2000 campaign. My brother, by the way, is a Democrat and remains so. I knew George Bush in those days, but I’ve never gone hunting with him. I did play golf with him a couple of times. But when he was sworn in as president I expected no favors and in truth got none. I have a cordial relationship with him, but it is a relationship that does not go beyond that. And obviously I’ve had very little contact with him as president and have interviewed him in a formal sit-down only once. “

Posted by: kravitz | October 2, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

“Who is the fraud?”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Ray McGovern on Joe Biden:
“For my own penance, I made myself read again through your marathon, “in-depth” interview with the late Tim Russert on Apr. 29, 2007. Your comments are notable for two things: (1) periodic sentences that can be diagrammed only by a German philologist with the patience of Job in waiting for verbs and an empty quiver for dangling participles; and (2) lies.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

“A zillion American women are going to vote for Sarah Palin. The more the media hacks cut her up, the better she looks.”
Portrait of right winger pretending to be a Democrat letting his/her mask slip.
Tell us another story about your progressive bonafides as you defend right wing ideas!

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Since we’re quoting Ray McGovern
“In the process, you will have succeeded in drawing a stark contrast between the “lies to nowhere” that she continues to tell on the one hand, and your (hopefully) terse, disarming honesty, on the other. You will be free to go ahead and demonstrate that in John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin, no presidential candidate in the history of this country has made a more irresponsible selection for his running mate.”

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Puff on about the “polls”, which also had “Democratic” saboteur John Kerry on top, if you remember.”
When did Kerry top 50% in any poll?
When did John Kerry lead Bush by 5 points or greater across every poll in Oct?
Polls are of course a snap shot in time but Obama’s poll numbers do not compare to Kerry’s.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

“no presidential candidate in the history of this country has made a more irresponsible selection for his running mate.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

With both McCain and Obama having voted yesterday to make the illegal gift of the US Treasury to private entities, why isn’t Nader’s running mate Matt Gonzalez included in this outrageously-fixed “debate”?

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Some of these blogs here and in other places have brought to my mind some words written over 100 years ago about this great nation.
America! America!
God mend thine ev’ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev’ry gain divine.

Posted by: George | October 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

“McGovern’s mostly interesting on Biden’s baloney about the Iraq war.”
Gotcha, Ray McGovern’s opinion can only be used to reinforce your nonsense.
Any other opinion he may utter is to be ignored especially if it contradicts the right wing storylien.
“The difference between Palin and Biden is that Palin — the most popular governor in the US”
Actually she is not. Her approval ratings have dropped 15 pts since becoming the VP nominee meaning there are several governors who are more popular.
Not that the truth really matters much to you Belle Starr

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

“With both McCain and Obama having voted yesterday to make the illegal gift of the US Treasury to private entities, why isn’t Nader’s running mate Matt Gonzalez included in this outrageously-fixed “debate”?”
Ralph Nader is running?
Being a Jesse Jackson FDR Democrat I would figure you would support McKinney.
Or did you decide she got the nomination based on her skin color?

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

“Not that the truth really matters much to you Belle Starr”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

“Being a Jesse Jackson FDR Democrat I would figure you would support McKinney.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

“The truth about Biden-Palin is that Palin is the far more attractive candidate in every way. And she doesn’t have that look of somebody who’s been drinking a lot, for a long time.”
So what makes Palin attractive to a Jesse Jackson FDR Democrat?

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

“Ralph Nader is the third-party candidate who’s most knowledgeable on the economy and corporate matters generally, as I’m sure McKinney would acknowledge.”
Which begs the question of why you so rarely invoke Nader but relish defending McCain and Palin.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

“Ralph Nader is the third-party candidate who’s most knowledgeable on the economy and corporate matters generally, as I’m sure McKinney would acknowledge.”
“Which begs the question of why you so rarely invoke Nader but relish defending McCain and Palin.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

“Voting for McCain/Palin is the most direct way to deny the presidency to a Chicago mobster backed by corporate bad boys.”
LOL!
Next you will tell us you voted for Bush over Gore to teach Clinton a lesson.
And how FoxNews is preferable to MSNBC because MSNBC is too liberal
All from a Jesse Jackson FDR Democrat!

Posted by: Ryan C | October 2, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

I hate that phrase, “The proof is in the pudding.” Mainly because the actual saying is, “The proof of the pudding is in the taste.”

Posted by: Apollodorus | October 2, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

“And how FoxNews is preferable to MSNBC because MSNBC is too liberal”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

I hate that phrase, “The proof is in the pudding.” Mainly because the actual saying is, “The proof of the pudding is in the taste.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

“If the moderator of this debate were someone who was writing a book that basically was ‘The Age of McCain,’ I have a feeling that a lot more of these publications would be saying that the person should not be doing it,” said Giuliani.

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 2, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

One of many of McBush’s problems is that it is not hard to find an excuse to bash anyone or anything when it comes to his poor judgement throughout the years in the Senate, in addition to his terrible chose in choosing Palin. He thought she was the shining star. Her shining light is out. There is nothing she can do between now and November to make herself an acceptable VP except go back to being the so called governer of Alaska.

Posted by: octobersun | October 2, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Have the wing nuts succeeded in completely lying to themselves that Palin is a serious candidate? She is a national farce! 25 years ago the republican conservatives were the MORAL majority, now it just seems that they are itnent on living in a fantasy world. Bush has destroyed the brand and it will take years for a leader to be found. But actually lying to yourselves and saying Palin is legitimate is very sad. Sometimes power corrupts and a good purging is needed to strengthen a party. The louder you scream the more pathetic you are. Breathe,accept , and try again in 4 years with a decent candidate.

Posted by: Maurice | October 2, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

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