McCain Campaign Seeking More ‘Joes’

He now has
Joe the plummer
Joe the robocaller
he now needs
Joe the Reverend Wright impersonator
Joe the Osama bin laden finder
Joe the Palin assistant (help her stay on message)
Joe the game changer
Joe the economy changer
Joe the anger management therapist
Joe the fearmonger
Joe the socialist-seller

Do I still count?

I am Joe the Dupe. I like that John McCain will tax me MORE than Obama, and because I hate socialism. Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are SOCIALISM and must be DESTROYED. I do not want the 37% of corporations that paid no taxes last year to be taxed, because that would be WELFARE. Only hard-working Joes like me who make 40,000 a year should be taxed more.

Can I get nit-picky here?
He’s really “Samuel the unlicensed, back taxes owing plumber” people.

“Joe the Plumber”? Oh, pleeeez! Who doesn’t see that “Joe” was nothing less than a McCain supporter “planted” in order to give McCain talking points in the debate! Duhhhhhh!

Can I get nit-picky too?
Joe Not-really-a-plumber choose to misrepresented himself in several ways when he talked to Barack Obama.
He said he was about to purchase a business that made $250,000 a year (exactly?) and wanted to know if his taxes would go up.
Let us count the deceptions here:
1. Joe has since said (to UP) that he has no good plan to buy this business.
2. The business in question does less than $100,000 a year in sales.
3. Taxes on a small business apply to net profit, not income. A business with $100,000 in sales is going to make less than half that in profit.
Now I know this guy is just an ordinary citizen with an OPINION and a question, but that doesn’t mean he has less responsibility to be truthful.
Truth counts.

On taxes, it seems that McCain is the only person who can claim that he cuts taxes on every individual, while Zero raises taxes on anyone/couple filing more than $110K gross income.
Why do you prefer for the government to tax more from most individuals (not the so-called top 5% that Zero has lied to you).
Maybe, for those of you making less, you got less tax cut in absolute dollar amount than the rich, but you still get a greater percentage of tax cut than the rich.
It just happens that 1% of $1 million ($10,000) is a lot more than 10% of $20K (2,000).
If Zero uses 1% of his Harvard smart to explain what profit margin and net profits are, you probably would have not so disappointed. But, it would have exposed his lies, wouldn’t it?

ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.
“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”
Isn’t this an argument for electing someone with MORE EXPERIENCE!? Why should we elect a man who will EMBOLDEN OUR ENEMIES and push us to the brink of disaster? Biden seems convinced that electing John McCain will make our enemies abroad much less sanguine about provoking us — which is one of the best arguments yet heard for electing McCain.
Even worse, Biden admits that an Obama administration will likely FUMBLE THE BALL. “It’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.” Really? Why not? I’d say that Biden admits that Obama will deviate from long-held principles of American foreign policy and diplomacy, and expects to reap a whirlwind of disapproval because of that. Where will that be most likely to occur, given Obama’s previous political alliances with people like Rashid Khalidi?
Let’s not forget the example that Biden himself uses here. John Kennedy got tested because he met with Nikita Khrushchev with “no preconditions”. Kennedy acknowledged afterwards that it was an “unmitigated DISATER.”
What resulted? The Berlin Wall and the Cuban missile crisis. Kennedy wound up trading strategic intel and missile installations in western Asia in exchange for Soviet withdrawal of the nuclear missiles from Cuba. The entire Kennedy administration turned out to be a foreign-policy DISASTER that was only overlooked because of the tragic assassination of Kennedy in Dallas in 1963.

McCain already has “Joe Sixpack” the Socialist Governor of Alaska.
Alaskans receive approximately $3000 per year from the state of Alaska (paid for by Alaskan businesses). Based on Governor Palin’s own words this past week, that’s called Socialism.

Angie,
It is Zero who first walked into that Plumber’s lawn and questioned his motives.

Angie,
It was on my lawn, I would have invited him to get the hell out of my property.

I’ll take Joe The Plumber over Obama The Socialist any day.

At least Samuel didn’t have a weird name like Malcolm or Track or Willow.

You people are idiots. Yes it’s true that anyone could plant a McCain supporter anywhere to ask a question, howeverf, no one can force Obama to talk about the redistribution of wealth. Obama did that all on his own. You people need to read about Socialism, Communism, and Marxism and see if that is really what you want this country to become.

The difference between John McCain and Barrack Obama.
John McCain’s positions are life sustaining for America.
Barrack Obama is too reduce the strength of America and the self-sufficiency of the America life.

Hey NV-Sparkle………..Obama went to Joe’s door.
Why would McCain need to vet someone your messiah selected?

To the McCain supporter here:
Can one of you please explain to me why you support McCain, without saying ANYTHING about Obama? Please tell me what McCain plans to do for America over the next 4 years. I am still trying to decide and could use some solid facts.

for those who think that Joe the Plumber was a plant, you must be confused with ACORN or the Obama supporters who registered and voted in Ohio, by renting a group house and are now back studying at Oxford. Or the Obama campaign volunteer, who registered and voted on Oct 1 (after having arrived in Ohio on Sept 29) and used his host family’s address, without their permission, to register. http://palestra.net/blogs/read/17368
With the round-the-clock investigative reporting that has descended on Joe-the-Plumber, no one has yet claimed that he wasn’t living in that same neighborhood when Obama decided to go to his neighborhood.
I wish the same sleuths would descend on the Columbia University neighborhood and tell us something about Obama’s days in NYC, when he was using MJ and doing some “blow.” Or perhaps camp outside Bill Ayers’ house to find out when he first met Obama and whether they’ve ever discussed politics.

Neither Joe nor the GOP “planted” the Marxist “spread the wealth around” response in Obama’s mouth.
Saul Alinsky did.

BECKY
I live in PA In a Republican neighborhood Noticing More and More these days My Neighbors taking down their Mccain/Palin signs replacing them with Obama/Biden signs I asked one of my Neighbors whats going on He Replies THEY ARE FED UP WITH MCCAIN AND PALIN THEIR LIES, THEY THINK ITS NASTY THE WAY MCCAIN IS RUNNING HIS CAMAPIGN! They also are not happy that Mccain IS GOING TO TAX THEIR HEALTCARE INSURANCE THEY GET THROUGH THEIR EMPLOYER! Since the last debate Mccain admitting his TAXING THE INSURANCE Thats when the signs starting coming down well at least I dont feel like the oddball anymore haha

Charles,
I saw the video clip. Did you? They were out on the PUBLIC sidewalk, nowhere near “Joe’s” door. I didn’t even see his door in the distance. Did you?
As mentioned before you posted to me, John McCain was the one who made “Joe the Plumber” a major part of his debate strategy. Don’t you think he should have done some homework before making this a national talking point?

All he needs is Joe the Concession Speech writer.

Nodd, absolutely right! Thats what he is doing right now. Very clever of you to point that out!

Wow. so this is what losers do on the last two weeks of their dying campaign? lol.
can’t wait until inauguration day. time to move forward.
Obama/Biden 2008!!!

NODD
HAHA LOLOL You Mccaniacs are too funny last i knew Senator Obama is in Tampa Fl at a rally drawing thousands of people I guess what some say are true THE MCCAIN SUPPORTERS ARE NOT THE BRIGHTEST BULBS IN THE LIGHT!

PhillyR,
I guess you didn’t understand the question. Can you give me even ONE reason to vote for McCain without mentioning reasons for voting AGAINST Obama? Give me just ONE solid fact about what McCain will do if elected! Can’t do it, can you? Nobody seems to know what McCain stands FOR, only what he is AGAINST.

A Chicago professor who was a frequent lunch companion of Obama’s. This professor said that “Obama was as close to a full-out Marxist as anyone who has ever run for president of the United States.”

NV SPARKLE
Mccain WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES BY TAXING YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE YOU GET THROUGH YOUR EMPLOYER! SO THEREFORE IF MONEY IS TAKEN OUT OF YOUR SALARY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE MCCAIN WILL ALSO TAX YOU SO YOU WILL SEE YOUR SALARY DECREASE! BETWEEN PAYING FOR YOUR BENIFITS AND MCCAIN TAXING YOU ITS LIKE YOUR BEING DOUBLE TAXED and thats ok with these right wing nuts!

Scott, sounds like the same scare tactic that the republicans use when congress wants to raise minimum wage: Small businesses will go out of business – they will have to lay people off – prices will go up…..
Never happens though. So why should anyone believe the republicans now? Being correct is not one of their virtues.
President Obama! Get used to it!

Vote McCain-Palin we need 4 more years of republican rule. Palin may be the best of the 4 (McCain,Palin Obama, Biden) i am glad she is one heartbeat away from being president, she will fix the economy

Do the new “Joes” need to make more than $250,000 a year?

I don’t consider myself to be a Republican or Democrat by definition. I’m an American and I can say that from what I have seen; one side stands for honesty, integrity, strong personal and social, moral and ethical values during the course of a 30+ year political career. While the other has shown a pattern of lies, deciet, corruption, coersion etc. in just 1/2 the time in the polical arena.

Angie Good for you your not the oddball anymore. Your neighbors can join you as the oddballs who are falling for Barack Obamas smooth talking lies. If Obama gets in I hope you are all happy with the direction this country will go. Tell me something have you ever gone on a sight and actually looked up the issues and see how the candidtes really stand and how they voted?

Lets say my taxes pay for 1 mile of a highway. Your’s pay for 20 ft of the same highway. We both drive the same amount on that highway.
Now why should I pay for 1 mile and 15 ft so that you will only have to pay for 5 ft of highway?
Worse yet, some are paying nothing for that highway. Why should I give them money to drive on the highway I paid for?
How about a thanks for that highway under your car. The “government” didn’t pay for it, I DID!

Why I am voting Democrat!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending MY MONEY than I would. I think when you spread the wealth around it is good for everybody! It’s Patriotic!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. All profits are evil and should be confiscated for Government Redistribution.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that MORE Government regulations and higher taxes on Business will stop Business from exporting their jobs to Countries with LESS Government regulations and lower taxes.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe terrorists should be allowed to have trials in American courts. And be able to subpoena top secret documents, soldiers, government officials, etc. to cross examine for their defense. They should have ACLU lawyers who can help intimidate Americans who serve on the juries!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe Gay Marriage should be the law of the land and will probably produce better children.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe English should not be the official language of the United States. I don’t mind pushing one for English when I use the phone.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe partial birth abortion is okay but water boarding a terrorist is disgusting.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe having a domestic terrorist like Bill Ayers as a close friend is a good thing. It allows for great relations with foreign terrorists.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe in a FREE government health care system. I believe doctors, nurses, hospitals, drug companies, etc. will gladly donate their time, products, services, facilities, etc. for FREE and that will be a better system.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe in and support trial lawyers, frivolous lawsuits and outrageous jury verdicts.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe 9/11 was an inside job to con the American people to go to war for oil.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe social security is solvent and that there is a social security lock box and I don’t believe social security is a Ponzi scheme.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe MOST AMERICANS are bitter and cling to their guns and religion. Let’s rid our country of guns and religion!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe illegal aliens deserve all the rights of ordinary Americans plus some additional rights Americans do not have.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe corporations should pay higher taxes! I believe higher taxes on business will make the price of their products and services LESS EXPENSIVE.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe groups like ACORN who register felons, drug addicts, wino’s, homeless drifters, illegal aliens, dead people, children, fictional Disney characters, etc. makes my vote count more.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe celebrating the winter solstice shows compassion for the small minority of people that do not celebrate Christmas.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe hard core criminal murders and rapists deserve life and that the innocent unborn deserve death. It’s a choice I can live with.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe Bush caused Hurricane Katrina and he blew-up the levies in the ninth ward of New Orleans.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that any one who is not partaking in one of the many wonderful government programs obviously has too much money and should pay higher taxes.
I’m voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq the terrorists will be happy and now think of us as good people.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe our soldiers are AIR RAIDING villages and killing innocent people.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe sex in the Oval Office with an intern is a private matter and that everybody lies under oath about sex.
I’m votin Demokrat becuse I wus edumkated at a publick sckrool. I lik da Natsionel Edukatshun Assoseeashun!
I’m voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as it does not offend people. Can’t we all just get along?
I’m voting Democrat because I believe oil companies’ profits are wrong. I believe higher taxes on oil companies will produce lower prices at the pump.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe we need to rid ourselves of dependency on foreign oil, BUT I AM AGAINST offshore drilling for oil and natural gas, drilling in Anwar, building nuclear power plants and clean coal technology.
And finally, I’m voting Democrat because I believe Reverend Wright when he said “GODDAMN AMERICA” and “OUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST”. Hey let’s make a comfortable nest for those chickens!
Why are you voting Democrat?

Joe (Samuel) the unlicensed Plumber is a fool to vote republican, he would pay much less taxes under Obama’s plan. He makes 40-60K per year, is not anywhere close to buying a 250K business. Wonder what he is doing to pay for his health insurance, does his employer provide it? He is the sole employee. Obama’s Health Plan is 10 times better than McCain’s. McCain would tax small business owners for providing health care. Joe is much better with a democrat as a president, remember the Clinton years, the economy did not suck, there were plenty jobs, there were For Hire boards everywhere …

Yeah, in the SERVICE Sector

Charles,
You clearly support McCain, so maybe YOU can answer my earlier question. What, EXACTLY, will McCain do that would encourage me to vote for him? Can you answer that question WITHOUT mentioning anyone other than John McCain?

No ideas, no vision for the country, no solutions for the economic crisis, just hate and lies
Posted by: Megan | Oct 20, 2008 1:43:07 PM
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Sounds very familiar.
Zero promoted Bush’s $600 cash giveaways, called it “economic stimulus”. His congressional leaders who wanted so bad to select him such that they will do anything to support Zero. Therefore, they are so happy to cast a “bipartisian” package.
At the same time, Zero’s then opponent Hillary Clinton proposed to use that $300 billion to target on banking and mortgage meltdowns, only to be brushed aside by congressional leaders and ridiculed by Zero. This was one year ago.
We know for sure, 100% sure, that Zero’s “vision” turned out to be another boneheaded mistake that led to the stockmarket crash, and 50% lower in your retirement accounts.
You will never know, but it might, just might, HRC’s plan have saved the financial sectors meltdown, which is known the #1 economic problem today.
It is yet another judgment mistake that Zero showed.

Thank you AMERICAN MOM, that was well said. I am life long Dem who is voting for McCain/Palin this time around

I am SOOOOOO sick of Joe!!!

I find it amusing now that McShame is tanking that the McShame supporters on these blogs are no longer “Republican or Democrat”. The rats are jumping ship in troves!

OKAY, how about Francheska the _______.?

THIS GUY “JOE” CANT EVEN GET A CREDIT LOAN TO BUT A NEW CAR , CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT, AND HE WANTS TO BUY HIS “EMPLOYER” WHEN HE IS NOT EVEN LICENSED TO DO PLUMBING. HEY LETS ASK JOE THE QUESTIONS NOW “JOE WHAT KIND OF PIPING SHOULD I USE FOR A 12 JET JAKUZZI, COPPER , PVC, OR STAINLESS STEEL? OH I FORGET YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PLUMBING, ONLY UNCLOGGING YOUR OWN TOILET!” JOE THE PLUMBER——-LIAR !

Scott,
Obama has as much experience at be president as Lincoln. What experience did Lincoln have in reuniting a divided country?
And the reason you tax the rich now, is because they have the money. They screwed up the country, so they get to pay for it getting fixed. Sounds pretty simple to me.

We need a third party. Vote for 2012 to add Independents for a choice. If we have a 3rd party by 2012, this mess we’re in will finally begin to get straightened out. Read votenader.org and study the issues for the future.

Who or what Joe is irrelevant; let’s focus on Obama’s reply to the question…

At least three voters have reported that voting machines used in West Virginia refuse to accept a vote for Obama and switched it to McCain. The poll worker said to touch the screen more lightly. He or she might as well have said: “Stand on your left foot and insert your right index finger into your nose while touching the screen with your left pinky.” If the software doesn’t work, touching the screen differently is not likely to make any difference. Problems like this (the wrong box being checked after someone touches the screen) are easy to detect. What is impossible to detect is a machine that displays the vote as the voter intended but counts it for a different candidate internally.

Hey, I can do a robo call for John the crap shooter.

Hey NV Sparkle, since it’s so important to you to have people respond to you, here’s a response for you. No one cares about you as noted by the lack of responses to you. Except me, of course. I care about you, and I need to tell you something for your own good. No one cares about you. ok?

LETS DISCUSS MCCAIN TAXING OUR HEALTH INSURANCE HE SAID NO TAXING ANYONE DAMN IT! IN THE LAST DEBATE HE ADMITTED HE WILL TAX I PAY FOR MY INSURANCE, IF MCCAIN TAXES THAT AND WE ALREADY PAY OUR SALARY WILL DECREASE BECAUSE ITS LIKE BEING DOUBLE TAXED!!!!!!!!!

Angie.
Don’t agree with McCains HCP. But obama’s is a VERY bad idea. We have a government HCP now, it’s called medicaid.
Talk about abuse. I have heard time after time a medicaid patient say they’re not going to the clinic because the clinic wants a $3.00 copay. “I came to the ER because it’s free”.
Problem is, medicaid (the government-ie the tax payers) just got billed $500.00. But hey, that medicaid patient saved $3.00.
Also, see how quick you get that medicaid patient who has chronic back pain in with a neurosurgeon. It may take 6 months (if they accept medicaid patients at all).

If you actually believe the Obama / Biden / Pelosi / Stalin Administration will cut taxes, I’d like to talk to you about a timeshare opportunity in a bridge to nowhere.
Sen. Obama, experience matters. I have made many mistakes in my short life. It is true, when I
think about it, that each of those mistakes are among my greatest assets with respect to decision
making, each and every one of them. This is because we all learn from our mistakes. At all times,
I believe the best of my judgment is anchored in the cement that is my experience. I believe
firmly that the longer I live, the more I will have experienced, and the better my judgment will
be, on the balance. Sen. Obama, do you really believe that you have made enough mistakes to be the
next President of the United States? Many say that you won’t make the same mistakes that others
have made because of your sound judgement. The only thing, Senator, is that there still remain
many mistakes yet to be written into this planet’s history books. You won’t always have the
benefit of others experience, you’ll have to leverage your own experience and you have too little
on which to base your judgement. I respect your ambition. I respect your charisma. I embrace your
place in history, but I do not believe you have sufficient experience to lead this planet, not
even close.
America, since the mainstream media has failed to examine Sen. Obama�s experience and lack of
experience, you will have to determine for yourselves what exactly is Sen. Obama�s experience?
What did he accomplish in the Illinois legislature? He was only there for a handful of years. What
did he promise he would accomplish? What did he accomplish in the U.S. Senate? He has only been on
the job as a U.S. Senator for 1xx days. What did he promise he would accomplish? What has he
changed in this world? This country? The Presidency of the United States is an executive position
Sen. Obama. Do you have any executive experience? Have you created a budget, negotiated a budget,
revised a budget or managed adherence to a budget?
Sen. Obama insists on presenting Sen. McCain�s experience as being only an puppet of the Bush
administration. I saw Senator McCain stand up to President Bush�s Defense Secretary. He stood in
a
manner that no other did. He changed the course of the war in Iraq. What percentage of all GOP
legislative votes sided with President Bush�s? What percentage of all Democrat legislative votes
sided with Presidents Clinton, Carter and Johnson�s policies? I have no idea, but I�d venture
to
guess that, had the media presented that information to the American public, we�d find rank and
file partisanship throughout our recent history. How many Americans would be surprise by that?
Well Senator Obama, you might be able to claim that you did not support the Iraq war resolution,
but what can you offer as proof that it was the right decision at that moment in our history? You
were after all in the small minority. Our country was after all reeling from the worst terror
attack in our nation�s history. How would history have judged President Bush had he not led our
troops into Iraq and then, a massive terror attack occurred yesterday, perpetrated by terrorists
that lived and trained in Iraq over the past few years, with or without knowledge of Saddam
Hussein? I think about it this way: history failed to present enough evidence to push the World to
coalesce and intervene in 1930s Europe. But modern history is 100% clear on that point, it would
have been the correct decision. History might well judge the Iraq war to be not a right decision.
History will judge the Bush administration on many points. One of those may even record it, in
part, as a series of lapses in the judgment of a young President, swayed by the belief and
conviction of an older, seasoned Vice President and the overwhelming circumstances of a world that
had changed dramatically, in an instant. I agree with you Sen. Obama that we don’t need another
eight years of the Bush Administration, we dont need another eight years of an inexperienced
President.
Mr. Gibson, Ms. Couric, Ms. Behar, Ms. Mitchell, Mr. Matthews … you do not get to dismantle the
American vote. You and your colleagues might think you have the power to micro-filter
democracy�s
messages to your liking, but you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You might think you
have the power to subtly, and not so subtly promote and gather others to blindly promote one
candidacy, while casting another in the least flattering manner possible, but you do not get to
dismantle the American vote. You do not get to dismantle America�s vote. The mainstream media
bias
in this election is at best described as repugnant and at worst, a slap to the face of democracy;
an assault on the moral and righteous ideal that all American voters should be free to construct
their vote on the basis of readily available, factually complete, accurate, relevant and unbiased
fact. It is my opinion that, during this election cycle more than any other I have witnessed, the
mainstream media has failed millions of American�s who rely on them, as a basis for constructing
their vote. Am I wrong? I might be wrong, but I�ll ask you, the American voters to decide that
for
yourself, by asking yourself some questions. Questions such as why was so much time spent this
election cycle mining for dirt in Alaska, why was so little time was spent tracking laundry in
Illinois? Why has the mainstream media spent so little time illuminating the razor thin experience
that the junior Senator from Illinois maintains as his credentials? Indeed, if the media was
prepared to be fair and honest, they would have been able to report, with incontrovertible
confidence, that they were reporting fact, that the candidate having the most experience directly
relevant to the position of the Presidency of the United States is actually the candidate that has
been relentlessly attacked by the media, both personally and professionally. The mainstream media
owes an apology to American Democracy for its treatment of Gov. Palin. Why is it, that after
finally deciding to give minimal airtime to the ACORN voter registration fraud issue, was it not
mentioned that Sen. Obama�s campaign funded ACORN? Sen. Obama, in my mind, there is no
distinction
between committing voter registration fraud, serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud
or funding those serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud. During the last debate,
you did a fine job of distancing yourself from ACORN, but you failed to directly confront and
condemn those that perpetrate or encourage voter registration fraud. You had a nationwide
audience, and you chose not to act.
The President is the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces. That is a serious
responsibility. I question how you can expect us to believe that you will effectively maintain the
morale, skill and competence of our forces after you have insulted them (I have a friend that is
an Army Reservist. He is deploying, again, to Iraq. He has a wife, a son and a daughter. He
does not serve so that he can kill children and raid villages Senator). What will serve as your
experiential basis for leading the U.S. Military? Do you have any military experience at all? Have
you ever served in ROTC? Did you at least play with the little green plastic troops when you
lived in Hawaii? Do you know firsthand the horrors of war? I believe that firsthand knowledge and
experience is the most critical element one can use in formulating decisions, including the
determination of when to and when not to deploy U.S. Military forces. Sen. McCain has that
experience. That I know. That he has shown. The media can�t take that away from him.
With regard to foreign policy experience, do you think you are qualified to navigate the most
powerful democracy the world knows during a time when the fundamentals of democracy are very much
under attack? Are you ready to face Mr. Putin? Mr. Chavez? Kim Jung mentally Ill? China? Iran? Are
you ready to answer the 03:00 phone call? What experience do you have that I should judge gives
you readiness? What is that experience? What foreign leaders have you negotiated with directly?
What treaties have you signed? The media has presented none and neither have you. I have a good
number of stamps in my passport Sen. Obama. I lived and worked in Germany for a brief period. Sen.
Obama, I am not qualified by a longshot to make United States foreign policy, and you may only be
marginally more qualified than I.
The oratorical is no substitute for judgment or experience Senator Obama. I do not believe that
you have the experience to be President of our country. Experience matters Sen. Obama, and you are
not ready, you have not made enough mistakes. But most glaring to me, Senator Obama is the one
mistake that you seem willing to make over and over and it is the worst mistake one can make. That
mistake is the action of not owning and learning from one�s mistakes. The surge worked Senator.
Sen. Obama, you claim that you will cut taxes on 95% of all Americans. Is that true? Or let me
rephrase, how can that be true? You told the voters of Illinois that you would cut taxes, but you
have failed to do so in the U.S. Senate. Did you even try? Did you present a bill? Were it a
committee issue did you encourage your peers to present one? Have you ever voted for a tax cut?
What did you mean Senator Obama when you told Plumber Joe that you wanted to spread the wealth? Do
you mean that you want to take money from Joe and give it to those with less money? Your running
mate, Sen. Biden has commented that you would not be taxing additionaly those making under
$250,000 a year. Sen. Biden commented that he knows no plumbers that make over $250,000 a year. I
think that those who claim your tax policies embody class warfare are wrong. Wrong, because the
policies are class warfare policies, but they are not directed against the haves, they are
directed against the have-nots. Senator Biden, you may well be correct that few plumbers earn over
$250,000 a year, but some that own plumbing contracting businesses probably do. What do those that
spin your message have planned to say to that one plumber out of maybe six or seven that was
employed by a plumbing company, but was laid off, because business is slow, new homes weren�t
being built and President Obama�s tax increase forced the owner of the plumbing business to lay
her off? The owner tried every angle possible, but was forced to make a tough decision. They were
faced with the prospect of either making a tough decision or risk running the entire operation
into financial distress and end up having to close operations and fire all workers? I guess
you�d
have Mr. Burton tell her that, even though she has no job, she does at least still have access to
affordable healthcare? Senator Obama what will you say to the still unemployed plumber in Ohio,
father of two, that nearly had a job secured, the owner had just signed a good contract for a
small building and he was ready to hire that plumber, but learned from his accountant, that
President Obama�s, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid’s tax increase has made it not possible to
hire
another employee? I guess you�d have Mr. Burton tell that plumber, that even though he still has
no job, he does have a lower tax rate applied against his $0.00 income.
Sen. Obama, you have stated over and over that Sen. McCain supports tax breaks for corporations
that send their jobs overseas. The media has not reported on this one way or another, but if you
are correct, then I commend Sen. McCain for doing so. What you don�t get, Sen. Obama, or perhaps
don�t want the American public to get, is that income taxes, to a for profit enterprise are
expenses not much different from the costs of raw materials and salary expenses for purposes of
this discussion. All else equal, ladies and gentleman, a corporation will locate itself, and its
jobs, or begin to locate itself and its jobs, in areas where it is least penalized in terms of
taxes. This is how for profit American corporations behave and this is how they must behave. Their
competitors are operating in that manner, continually scouring expenses to search for reduction
opportunities. They have to. If they do not, they will be at a cost disadvantage and if their
tactical errors are sustained, they may well go out of business in which case, even those jobs
which remain in the United States, could also disappear. Even if the company does not fail
entirely, some jobs may be eliminated, and chances are great that the highest cost jobs would be
targeted first. Sen. Obama, America is not a low cost country, in these circumstances, high cost
American jobs would be targeted first, all else equal. When those jobs are cut Sen. Obama, those
finding themselves newly unemployed will not have money to support the ‘under $250k’ crowd…they
won’t have money to support small businesses…is it sinking in at all?
Your position of not supporting tax breaks for corporations that export jobs overseas, indeed,
only encourages them, at the margin, to further export jobs, or slow their job creation in the
United States or end their job creation in the United States. This is global economic reality. The
media can not distort this fact for you. At the final debate, I heard you add a carrot to your
plans. You pulled that same tax string attached to the back of your head and out came the message
your handlers have planted in you, that message you think the voters want to hear. I was laughing
a bit, but if I understand you correctly, you�ll give tax credits to corporations that create
jobs
in America. In case you don�t know Senator Obama, this already happens today at the state and
local level all across America. Have you thought about how much additionaly, it will cost the U.S.
Treasury to employ workers, in an audit fashion, in order to verify which of all the xx million
jobs that corporations claim they created, were actually created or do actually exist? What are
the time constraints? How long must they keep the job filled in order to receive the credit? What
would happen when that timeframe passes? Let me point this out to my fellow voters. Senator Obama
wants to first keep tax rates on corporations high or raise them � thereby encouraging employers
large and small to export their operations and jobs – and then at the same time he wants to
turnaround and give them a tax credit for jobs they create? Senator, or maybe I should be
addressing your advisers, you do realize that the two are policy opposites don�t you? It looks
to
me that you might be trying to convince us that it would be a good idea to spend more on
government for an unknown expected net job decrease/increase. If you can convince us that those
are winning policies Senator Obama, then I�d suggest you save us all some trouble, sell the
American voters a bridge to nowhere and retire, pen some books, give some speeches. Indeed, your
tax policy is bigger government, bigger IRS, more regulatory burden on American corporations and
more administrative overhead makes them less competitive in the global market and less likely to
employ. It is not the right policy Senator Obama, not by a long shot.
Go back to the Senate and accomplish something Sen. Obama. Your candidacy is an insult to America.
ps, the verdict has been in for decades on the effectiveness of spreading the wealth policies. Go
visit an American Indian Reservation Sen. Obama. The only thing that has changed for the past
several decades is the faces of the Washington politicians that have redistributed wealth to us.
Do you have any clue what the average unemployment rate is in Indian Country Sen.Obama? Illicit
drug use rate? Teen pregnancy rate? Suicide rate? Pick a rate Senator.

The final nominees have been selected:
Joe the Racist
Joe the Warmonger
Joe the Myth-Making Creationist
Joe the Fox New Contributor
Joe the Vote Suppressor
Joe the Lobbyist
Joe the Narrow-Minded
Joe the WMD Searcher
Joe the E-mail Hoax Believer
Joe the Free Press Hater

Puleese! Sombody wake McCain UP! No one has told him Joe the Plumber isn’t a real senario?

No trouble with reading comprehension, just trouble getting any straight answers from you McCainiacs! Nothing but FEAR, LIES and SMEARS. Can’t any of you just enunciate what your candidate stands FOR?

JWS
It has been pointed out time and time again, Mccains healthcare plan will leave more people unInsured, The point I am making MCCAIN IS A LIAR HE SAID HES NOT RAISING TAXES, But the last debate He admitted TAXING HEALTH INSURANCE! HE LIES!

Wow, what a vitriolic attack on the man who simply asked a question. It is the man who answered the question who needs to be scrutinized. His answer reveals his Socialistic plans for our nation. Take from those who acheive and give to those who have not yet done so. Our education system has acheived its goal of created a dependent, uneducated mass of workers who want to be led by the intellectual elites. HOW SAD!!!!

NV SPARKLE
Thank you! see I told you Mccainacs dont reply or they change the Subject. If Mccain supporters cant point out his policies and why people should vote for him thats sad Then people shouldnt vote for him!

conrushist

2 Scott:
I work for the military on a contract. I am not worried in the least about anything. ;-)Are you worried?

Angie,
You are right. There is apparently no intelligent life in the McCain camp. NO ONE knows what he stands for, least of all John McCain.
Beam me up, Scotty!

JOHN DAHODI,
Powell is person who has no integrity, honor, nor is a patriot in the past 8 years. Without Powell, Bush’s elites would have not had a chance to sell the war to the world, to deceive the world by the propaganda of WMD, and would have not completely destroyed the trust of America.
He is a war criminal as Bush is, and Zero is so honored of having his assurance to the voters.
If Zero has any integrity, he should condemn Powell for leading the country into War.

“Alaskans receive approximately $3000 per year from the state of Alaska (paid for by Alaskan businesses). Based on Governor Palin’s own words this past week, that’s called Socialism”
No. Obamabot. That’s called a dividend. Obama the socialist would take the money and give it to his ACORN deadbeats in Chicago, Detroit and Philadelphia.

He would?? How do you know that geevill??? Did it come to you in an email?

Obama told us. He is going to spread the wealth. Take from Alaskans and give to welfare slugs.

Really, geevill, do you have a direct quote that I can look up and verify?

Colin Powell defends speaking fee
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — Colin Powell, nominated to be secretary of state, rejected any suggestion that he did “something untoward” in accepting a speaking fee arranged by Lebanese Deputy Prime Minister Issam Fares.
And in Lebanon, Fares also lashed out at the reports, calling them “distortions and lies” from America’s “Zionist lobby.”
Colin Powell another pro-Arab anti-Jew Obama aide.

Thinking said: Talk about anyone but himself and his policies. I’ve nevber seen anything like it.=================
Yep, drives me crazy. I’ve been trying to get answers from and about Obama the whole campaign but he just refuses to talk truthfully about himself and his real policies. Maybe if he was more forthcoming with the truth, more people would be inclined to vote for him. Good call to pick up on that though.

don’t forget to vote
- Diageo (Obama +7)
- Gallup expanded (Obama +7)
- IBD (Obama +5)
- Rasmussen (Obama +6)
- Research 2000 (Obama +7)
- Zogby (Obama +6)

geevil, I’ll bet you liked Gen. Powell until yesterday, right?

Palin utters the Socialist world but she herself had some pretty socialists deeds in Alaska too.
She signed into law a ‘windfall profit tax’ on oil companies in Alaska, that all republicans used to call it socialism in the US congress this summer.
Those money (aboul $3000 per capita) go to every Alaskan regardless if they earn $0.00, $20,000.00 or millions.
Call that what you want, but if that is not a wellfare state I don’t know what it is.
To add insult to the injury, Bush, McCain, and the republicans just gave oil companies billions in tax breaks.
Some of these tax breaks (your money if you live in the ‘lower 48′) are used to pay Alaska citizens. That’s called spreading the wealth.
And don’t get me started on earmarks going from us to Alaska thanks to uncle Ted Stevens.

I am getting tired of reading things like this on posts all over news websites. Something is not a fact until it actually happens. Proposed tax cuts or increases are just that “PROPOSED.” Obama could not possibly have cut 95% of our taxes if he’s not President. Right now it’s all talk, wait for the action to claim FACTS!!

I am getting tired of reading things like this on posts all over news websites. Something is not a fact until it actually happens. Proposed tax cuts or increases are just that “PROPOSED.” Obama could not possibly have cut 95% of our taxes if he’s not President. Right now it’s all talk, wait for the action to claim FACTS!!

Some of the Joes who support John McSame: Joe the traitor Lieberman,Joe the wife cheater,Joe the fake plumber,Joe the corporate robber barron,Joe the KKK member,Joe the alcholic,Joe the lobbiest Joe Goeebels and Joe Stalin.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/palins-medica-2.html

I have decided to vote EARLY for McCain/Palin.
I am a registered Democrat but I am alarmed that Obama//Biden /Pelosi/Reid have become extreme SOCIALIST LIBERALS who want to “spread the wealth”.
Every US immigrant who came from a communist country/dictatorship (and are US Citizens and planning to vote) should be APPALLED at this, since many came here to escape from that kind of suppression.
I DO NOT want the government to give my hard-earned money to lazy bums who are just waiting for hand-outs.

Are we sure that McCain didn’t think that Joe the Plumber was actually a Urologist and that why he related so well?

I’m sorry. I’m just surprised no one has commented on this. Good or bad, for or against either mccain or obama. So here it goes again:
Lets say my taxes pay for 1 mile of a highway. Your’s pay for 20 ft of the same highway. We both drive the same amount on that highway.
Now why should I pay for 1 mile and 15 ft so that you will only have to pay for 5 ft of highway?
Worse yet, some are paying nothing for that highway. Why should I give them money to drive on the highway I paid for?
How about a thanks for that highway under your car. The “government” didn’t pay for it, I DID!

WHEN SOME GAFFER LIKE JOE BIDEN CAN PREDICT AN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT THAT IS GUARANTEED TO HAPPEN WITHIN 6 MONTHS OF OFFICE….SOUNDS LIKE OBAMA/BIDEN WILL BE HAVING SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHATEVER IS GOING TO HAPPEN….I CANNOT PICTURE BIDEN “the Gaffer” BEING SENATOR “MESSIAH” OBAMA’S PHOPHET. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THOSE TWO HAVE HAD A HAND IN IT. I WOULDN’T TRUST B.O. WITH MY PIGGY BANK LET ALONE MY COUNTRY.

JWS – actually that sounds pretty Libertarian, rather than Republican.
In response to the comment about how the government didn’t pay for it, you did. Well, maybe you did. Or maybe the Chinese did with a loan that adds to our national debt. Or maybe it was the Russians who did, etc.
Or maybe it was revenues from the gas tax that did – you know, the one that isn’t progressive, and goes to transportation funding – the same one McCain wanted to suspend in a previous campaign gimmick.

Paul- We do own a small business– would you like the name so you can fully investigate us and maybe get the press involved? When you file personal federal income tax with a LLC it is gross income verses gross profit. Yes would be much better under mccain verses obama.

Watching McCain’s campaign is like watching a side show at a circus. You never know what they’re going to drag out next!!!
Think about it. With all of the wishy-washy stunts he’s pulled during his campaign, what on earth makes anyone think he’ll be a “steady hand at the tiller” if he gets elected??
The man is a flip-flopper of the highest degree and Palin is like a court jester fresh out of the clown car.

SmallBusiness4MAC: “When you file personal federal income tax with a LLC it is gross income verses gross profit.”
Sorry, doesn’t work that way.
First off, you have to file LLC taxes prior to your personal taxes. There’s no cash transaction involved, but it establishes your pass through value. I believe the forms are called a 1096 and K1 for each partner.
Then on your personal taxes, you account for the numbers there.
The LLC tax forms account for all your profits and all your operating expenses. What passes through is one minus the other; except for anything that falls under capital gains.

I love omentum’s comment. McCain is desperate. I’m sure he and Sarah can find someone that’s down and out who they can pay to be another fake Joe. They called Joe to tell him Obama was in the neighborhood setting him up. Now the IRS is after him and the board of state licenses. Division and hate breed bad karma.

There’s always Joe the Stooge.

Like I said before, JWS, you might want to look at Bob Barr at the LP ticket.

JUDY,JOE THE PLUMBERS MISTRESS, I read your post on Oct 20, 2008 2:09:31 PM.
Thank-You for your kind comments, that was so nice!
Congratulations, on dating Joe the plumber you are so lucky.
Maybe he can unstop your plumbing?
It sounds like it has not been used in quite some time!
Good Luck and Best Wishes,
Average American Mom

I make under 13000 a year and I am against Obamas tax plan because I am going to school in hopes of one day making over 250,000 a year and the way i see it if the people that make under 250k a year want more money then they need to go back to school and get a job that pays better that is the American way

This is ridiculous. Some of you people are heartless. I paid for 1 mile and you paid 15 ft. Here’s the thing, if all I can afford to give you is 15 ft, then be glad I am putting something down. If I could offer more, I would.
And to the other Joe, if you see a nation with more irresponsible people than responsible people in it, do you punish them all. Do you blame a child who wants to educate himself. Do you blame a man who needs a place to live. Do you blame a person who gets a car to search for more opportunities out there for themselves. For people like me who is struggling at 24 at a full time job with a college degree and can’t find a job or an affordable place, I guess I’m being responsible by not having at least an apartment to live in.

Guess celeb, after you make over 250k a year, it’s called giving back to the community. I plan on going back to school for my masters and if I make 250k, I will worry about others and not myself.

Whether obama or mccain does it (or doesn’t), how significant is $800-900 (what?, about $15.00 week) less taxes to someone who makes ~$40K a year. Is that ‘really-truly’ going to make a huge impact on their life and future?
Washington (both parties, the white house and congress) no longer represent “the people”. Over 80% of the population (both parties) were against the recent 700 billion bailout.
Our/your government didn’t what the “people” wanted. They all are serving their own aggenda.
No matter who gets in they should have constant pressure to do what the majority of the population wants.
Mr mccain nor obama know what’s best for me or you.

are they so out of ideas? they’re now doing a funniest home video contest?

@Magus725 SAID
“sort of like it was a small group of radical christians who committed countless acts of domestic terrorism within our borders prior to that.”
How about giving an example (like 10 ) of these COUNTLESS acts ???
IT’S REALLY PEOPLE LIKE YOU WITH THIS TYPE OF BS and your kind of narrow-minded, short-sighted, flat-out bigoted crap that has this country in the tubes.
Since 9/11 muslim radicals have committed 10,000+ acts of violence/terrorism worldwide in the name of Islam.

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HENRY “You do not make sense. You are only looking at the tax cuts but not the prices of products going up. The rich, no matter a 3% change up or down, will be fine. But guess what d0, they won’t be fine if the middle class citizens can’t buy nothing. You need to take an economics class. The middle class runs the society if you already can’t tell by now. The market is going down because people can’t afford nothing. They can’t afford a house, a car or student loans.”
If businesses pay more taxes then the cost of products go up, or employees are cut, etc… pull you head out of the pockets of others with the $$ and use the head on your shoulders which god gave you to make your own way.

0…0….0….0
The results of an August 2003 final technical report of the Chicago Annenberg Research Project by the Consortium on Chicago School Research “suggest that among the schools it supported, the Challenge had little impact on school improvement and student outcomes, with no statistically significant differences between Annenberg and non-Annenberg schools in rates of achievement gain, classroom behavior, student self-efficacy, and social competence.”
This after redistributing millions of wealth into the Chicago public school system…way to go O$ama!!! You are going to be a very effective President.
You know what, I wish that the Hollywood executive that casted the West Wing, would have known of your speaking skills. You would have been way better than Mr. Sheen.

The “rich” will always make theirs. If their gizmo cost $10.00 for joe “whoever” to purchase and the governement raises the “rich’s” taxes, they’ll just charge $11.00 for the same gizmo. They’ll always go home with the same pay check. Joe “whoever” will pay the price.
Is that such a hard thing for people to understand????
Not that it’s right or fair. It’s just the way it is.

Ludmila,
you need to take a macroeconomic course because you are brainDOA with respect to understanding the impact of tax policies on capital investment flows.
“Tax credits that ship jobs overseas” Good Ol’Barry’s worn that one out…he reaches back behind those big ears of his and pulls ‘the tax string’ and out of his mouth comes a flood of manure, that so many of the idiots, like those of you that have drank to Kool-aid are actually dumb enough to believe.
First of all, never, ever, in the history of our Country has there ever been passed tax law that gives tax breaks to companies that export jobs overseas. There has been tax law passed that lowers taxes for corporations, and yes, moron, some of them do export jobs, they either have to do it to match competitors cost structures or go out of business. What the hell do you think corporations that are on the verge of exporting jobs – because of cost pressures – will do, when President 0sama raises corporate income tax rates? Any guess?
When even more jobs export because we have a socialist in the white house, understand that there will be less disposable income to support the under $250k crowd. To bad small business employees will lose their jobs because their employer is seeing reduced demand for her products/services, because Big Ears raised corporate income taxes and sent millions to the unemployment line.
Oh and btw, don’t expect to see any tax cuts at all from the Osama / Pelosi administration. If there is one track record that the Messiah has, it is a track record of failing to deliver that which he promises in his campaigns.
Osama / Biden / Pelosi / Stalin 08

Independent realist, I didn’t steal anything from you.
While you’ve been typing I’ve been working. Making a few passing trips by the office to take a sip of coffee (and look at this blog) before I jumped back in to work.
I made $1000 this afternoon. Why should I give it to you? How did I steal it from you?

Paul or should I call you Joe Tax Man, as you say if I had a small business, which we do… and we paid taxes this year on a total of 300K which includes our person income of adjusted gross income of $220,000 what tax amount would we have to pay– in your joe tax man speculation? Seriously?

JWS
Quit stealing time from your company by going on the internet when you should be working. Stealing, stealing, stealing! See what mean!
President Obama! Get used to it!

People calling Joe a “republican plant” really out-do yourselves.
McCain must be BRILLIANT!
The McCain campaign got Obama to go to the exact neighborhood where Joe W. lives, at the EXACT time needed to get a socialist remark recorded so it could be used against Obama. — Obama, the VICTIM!
It was again BRILLIANT how the McCain camp got Obama to speak a socialist agenda.
Maybe a McCain “agent” slipped a mickey into Obama’s breakfast drink which programmed him to go where he went, and say what he said.
WOW… thanks Obama supporters… for a moment there, I thought Joe might actually be real and Obama’s answer might just be exactly what he thinks!
Just for you, I’ll keep focusing on Joe as a “plant” so I don’t take the time to digest Obama’s telling socialist answer.
You don’t have to thank me.

Do you really believe he’s going to cut taxes for all making under $250,000 when keeps talking about all the things he’s going to spend money on. It doesn’t add up.
For an education look up the Laffer effect to see why McCain doesn’t want to increase taxes on anyone right now let alone in these economic times. BTW – those making between 66,000 and 110,000 will be paying more Taxes under Obama, according to a report done by GMA. I’d call that the middle class, wouldn’t you? As far as the savings those under $66,000 would be making under Obama, the $2,500 or $5,000 credit for health insurance would more than make up for. BTW- that report showed a tax cut from McCain for all those same people. Just not as much for those under $66,000.

HP-Boston: I am surprised that Biden would refer to the fact that Obama if elected there would be a crisis. Maybe he was referring to the fact that world leaders would get ready to attack because they already know Obama is not presidential material. What a mess this country would be in. Powell would have to take over as secretary of state and Biden would have to help Obama. Two nuts in a shell waiting to be cracked open.

McCain needs more mo jos than Joes. He will soon be retiring to Arizona. Palin back to Alaska where she belongs.
There is too much at risk in this election. It is time to get rid of republican brand from screwing up the country.

JWS: I loved your statement. And its true. The economy is not bad. And this generation of idiots are always crying about the economy. I am doing fine. Gas prices are dropping big sales on food. The problem was that young people wanted to live like the rich with a beer pocket. Bought a condo with no money down or 5% down, a year later they decided they didn’t want to pay the payments anymore because they couldn’t afford it, gave the condo back to the bank and went to renting. The bank has lost a huge amount of money. And the banks are at fault too. They should never lend money unless the buyer has at least 25 to 30% down. That’s what made the banks in trouble. As far as I am concerned I don’t have a problem. I don’t have to work and I have enough money to live on. I got rid of my conversion van four years ago and I don’t need a car. I have all the transportation I need. And to those wannabee’s the answer is don’t try to be.

You know, I am not apposed to giving tosomeone making less money than me to pay for their part of the road so to speak. I am apposed to giving more of my money to the government for them to tie it up and waste it on programs that don’t work. If they really want people to spead the wealth around, get rid of the gift tax. Support the giving to charities and such.
I am very curious as to how much of a tip that waitress got from Obama when he was in Joe the plumbers neighborhood.

Am I alone in finding McCain’s Joe-the-Plumber shtick just a little patronizing…kinda obvious what you’re up to, Johnny Boy?
The man thinks US voters are stupid enough to believe his born-again new zeal as the patron saint of the American workers, who he proclaims don’t trust Obama….because he has Joe-the-Plumber in his corner.
Well…sorry, John, but Obama actually has 300,000 real plumbers in HIS corner! You see,in January, 2008, the United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry of the United States and Canada endorsed Obama:
“Barack Obama is the choice of the UA because he has always fought for working people throughout his career and will do the best job of bringing badly-needed change to Washington. Obama will help us keep existing jobs and work to develop new, higher paying jobs here in America, reform our health care system, fix our ailing schools and make sure that the pensions of our retirees are safe.”
“One of the keys to our endorsement was that Senator Obama backs a strong energy and industrial construction policy, which is very important to the future of our union. He is in favor of nuclear power, the construction of new refineries, fossil fuel power plants and chemical plants. He has also endorsed innovative energy initiatives, including ethanol plants, coal gasification and biodiesel production. He also clearly recognizes the need to upgrade all of our current industrial plants to comply with clean air and water standards. Barack realizes we have to become less reliant on foreign oil and gas and develop an energy program that we self-sustain here in the United States.”
“We need to support Barack Obama because he provides more than lip service to our concerns.”
And that’s exactly what John McCain’s Joe-the-Plumber campaign is….BS-coated lip service.

Call barack what you want wheter he is a muslim or christian. who cares what is his relegion? He will make a good President.

You Betcha Palin Is A Tough Governor:
Alaska could revoke leases for oil fields like Prudhoe Bay if top energy companies refuse to participate in a government natural gas pipeline plan, Gov Sarah Palin told Reuters in an interview.
Exxon Mobil Corp, BP Plc and ConocoPhillips together control more than 35 trillion cubic feet of known gas reserves on the Alaska North Slope.
But the companies declined to participate in a process backed by Palin to jump-start a long-delayed gas pipeline, arguing they needed a long-term tax deal from the state first.
Palin called the refusal “unconstitutional.”
“When the conditions of these leases are not met, especially after decades, it is time to open them up and allow other companies to come in here and compete for the right to tap the resources,” the Republican governor told Reuters this week in an interview.
The companies have said they are interested in developing the reserves, with ConocoPhillips studying a separate plan.
Palin’s tough talk has the backing of many ordinary Alaskans who are suspicious of the influence of the oil companies, as well as Democrats in the state legislature.
Palin is a fighter and knows how to make companies bend. Palin can do the same in Washington, D.C. Obama is one of the good-old-boys and Palin is for the people.
Obama wants to tax the oil companies and have the US government waste the money.

During the oil crisis of 2007, Palin fought to raise taxes on oil companies. As fuel prices skyrocketed in the lower 49 states, Palin complained that her state wasn’t getting its share of the windfall.
Palin successfully pushed for a law that raised taxes on oil profits. The increase amounted to an estimated $1.6-billion annually more for the state: double the amount it received the year before. Then she gave the money to the people.
It’s true: we’ve already checked her claim that she sent “a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska.”
On Aug. 7, 2008, the Alaska Legislature approved a measure she promoted. The administration of Alaska’s governor Sarah Palin now gives $1,200 to every single Alaskan. This comes to about $741-million for state residents. In addition, each resident will receive an annual dividend of $2,000 from an oil-wealth savings account. That comes to about $741-million for state residents
For a family of 7 (Gov. Palin has 7 members in her family) that means an additional $22,400.00 in income sent from the state of Alaska. WOW, who needs a job! Back to the trailer, Billy Bob!
That’s a fancy way of describing wealth redistribution.
Here is Obama’s gift to his voters.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=1

the government can’t do anything correct. mcbama and the rest of washington will continue to serve a plastic world of unreality that exist in their minds.
wait, the one thing they are doing well is leading sheep (so i stand corrected)
get a shovel and start moving dirt, then you’ll know how to build a road.
tie rebar all day and you’ll know how to build a nuclear power plant
go teach some 15 year olds in highschool, then you’ll know how to educate
get a COPD patient to stop smoking and then you can advise me on health care
the harvard lawyer doesn’t know anything about the real world, nor does a 30 year washington senator
fly around in a private jet and give speeches to people who want to hear anything they say, make your money from donations. yeah, thats the typical american
vote for obama, vote for mccain; they’ll both tend the flock the same.

No Obama – No way – No How! Ex Democrate and early voter for McCain/Palin!!!

Go McCain !!! We r sick of hearing about Obama and his corrupt friends in ACORN and his 600 million dollar fund funded by the MIDDLE EAST PRO PALESTINIANS AND TERRORISTS ,,,Obamas campaign is totally CORRUPT!!!!!

Keith Olbermann:
I am so glad that you have the time to blog while your show is ON THE AIR. Clearly, you and your handful of viewers can’t fill a whole hour discussing Obama’s substance.
You remind me of Alec Baldwin on the radio when he threw it to callers and THEY WEREN’T ANY. He had to beg for callers through several blocks. Finally, he received a phone call from his MOMMY.
No wonder Air America lasted until Gore got fat again and Keith drove his viewers to suicide.

Silkwool:
Obviously, you trace your roots back to the silkworm.

dmd :
obviously you have little to say-a dozen less words and you will be in sattori. I might call it suicide, there you will achive the completion of youe nasty little bugs life,

This is very savvy. Up to this point the McCain campaign has been unable to use the internet as effectively as Obama to rally voters or raise money. This is paradoxical because McCains self touted strong suit it one-on-one interactions in the town hall format. This is a perfect format for technology to enable more access. Why does the McCain camp keep taking pock shots at Obama when it could using that energy to engage voters.

keredite:
You have an IQ of a potted plant.
Let’s see Joe wakes up in lower middle class home in Ohio one day and decides to sabotage Obama when he unmistakenly interrupts Joe, who is playing football with his son, to talk to him. So, the great right-wing conspiracy of one (which is legally impossible since you need at least 2 people for a conspiracy) decided to spring into action. Thus, Samuel decides to call himself Joe (now, the Left can legitimately call him a two-personed plant). He stops to interact with the All-knowing Messiah, whose powers are faulty that day because he could not foresee the impending disaster. An American citizen deigns to simply ask a question of one of our leaders, albeit the Savior of the World, and the entire Liberal MSM and elites spring into action to try to crush the innocent questioner not the supremely intelligent, most brilliant politician since Lincoln (who would have set Obama up to be President of Liberia) WHO ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
No one can question the Castros, the thug Chavez, the Iranian Muslimnoligists, the murdered Odinga, and all of the would be Hitlers. Is that what you want if Obama gets elected? What if he doesn’t deliver his mythical tax decrease (Clinton promised the same thing until he ushered in the largest middle-class tax INCREASE in history) or sends more troops off to war? Who are you going to complain to then when he has installed his Fairness Doctrine on everyone and the intelligentsa stormtroopers to persecute you for even daring to question the wisdom of the Savior?

First – I don’t plan on voting for either candidate, because each party has done very little for the average American. Neither candidate possesses the ethics or values sought after by todays American. Politics is another form of ‘corporate America’. Sure, these are my opinions, but what do you expect from biased internet news?
Second – I left the United States to search for better opportunities because I wanted affordable healthcare and better education for my child, which is unheard of in the US. Good thing I did, because my healthcare package came in handy two years ago.
I work for the highest bidder in the defense contract industry. Yeah! I still work for my country, but I doubt if I can afford to live there.
I’ve yet to buy my first home… or live the American dream that my ancestors pursued nearly 400 years ago when they were some of the first to immigrate to the New World.
Hey John McCain, Barak Obama… Ask not what we can do for you, but GUARANTEE what you can do for us! No need to bend the truth. We’re all Americans, right?
It would be nice to come home…

Henry,
I Hire and I Fire.
If the taxes on my small law firm increase, one of my secretaries and a paralegal will join your poor, huddled masses.
Further, I will increase my fees so when you seek my services, you will be forking over some of your precious tax welfare check to Big, Bad ME.
That is the cruel truth of economics and all of you Obamamots will learn this the hard way. And, if you want to deny my logic because you hate lawyers (although you get a tingle up your leg for the legal “scholars”, Barack and Michelle), then substitute the grocer, the mechanic, and the plumber.

Clinton left us w/ a balanced budget, a job and
heavy future debt from low income mortgages and other loans.

BlackJack:
I disagreed with some of your posts, but you are right on here.
BTW, a Dallas city councilman is going to call you racist because you use the name “BlackJack”. Before you know it, the Obama politically-correct stormtroopers will be knocking on your door.

DMD,
Or their physician. Wait.., obama is gonna take care of that. He’ll put the drs on government pay roll.
Then all the good ones will quit, leave the country (become lawyers ;).
Next we can scrape the bottom of the barrel for new medical students who’ll follow the government/party line.
because: you have a “right” to health care
you can’t fix what you don’t know, but the governement thinks they can fix everything-
now, now, settle down little sheep, mcbama’s gonna take care of you

I know many small businesspersons that net more than $550K per annum. Increases in taxes will strangle their business and their small employee count will join the unemployed.
Obama has a pipe dream to lower taxes on 95% of the lower and middle class. The tax base is shrinking and unemployment is on the rise. That imaginary 95% will bring in less tax dollars. I guess Obama will solve that problem with another pipe dream.

DMD(v?) :
I get it now your a lawyer who does cases for spoiled brats from the south coast?
I would never hire you; you lack phiosophical grounding.
Your one of thos gossipy type, who drops lots ,of names, lots of manufactre pseudo “facts”. lots of shrarp catagorical push pins.
But you are an epistemilogical naif, and an ontological nitwit.
You are not well aromred to deal in the wold of the viscious amd the evil.
Just the venial, and the blue collar glossy inane.
What ashame you miss a lot , but it accounts for your rotten politcs.
Where do you go to school :Peppermint.land of 158 LSATS.-

White America is looking at too much favoritism for the Afro-Americans by Obama selecting retired general Colin L. Powell. White Americans are asking, “How many more Afro-Americans will Obama select for high US government offices?” Osama’s selection of Colin L. Powell is creating paranoia and that is powerful enough to lose the election.

Seems like if you examine the historical record in the most cursory( or most exactn way). The same pattern appears Way way way too much favoritism for the whites-even in proportion to jews, southern Eurpeans asians, lationo and of course Balcks.
Way too much favortism for merely being the first to the local registar of properties to take possesion of the land.
Than hand has clearly gotten cold, and has to be reshuffled-if only cause these old wasp are sooo tedious. fat and uncreative.

Mr. Sirro:
For every $1 we make, we send:
16.66667% of every GROSS dollar we make to the government in the manner of royalty payments.
Then, we pay lease rentals.
Then, transportation and excise taxes.
Then, Federal income taxes.
Then, State income taxes.
Then, franchise taxes.
Then, property taxes.
Then, unemployment taxes and health insurance costs.
And, FICA, etc.
Then, local taxes.
Then, sales tax and a restocking tax.
Next, comes my firm.
Federal taxes.
State taxes.
Local property taxes.
Sales tax.
Unemployment taxes and healthcare insurance for my employees.
FICA.
Lastly, personally.
Federal taxes.
State taxes.
Local property taxes.
Sales tax.
FICA and unemployment taxes.
So, darling, you do the math. It leaves me with about 10 cents of every dollar.

dan sirro:
I get it. You are manic-depressive and a drunk like F. Scott Fitzgerald. Psychiatric drugs and alcohol are a bad mixture.
“I admit mostly males because we are harmonally more diverse.” What do you and your boys do? Sing a capella boy band songs in the ward? Obviously, you did drift somewhere, but it was never in the 99% percentile while in any university.
See ya. Go takes your meds before the nurse checks to see if you in your padded cell.

At home, this plays a little like rich guy knows no real average Joes (or their stories) but would “love to learn about them.”
A field trip to learn about the middle class?

You are wrong. Look up Beyondthewall.com thats a cmpany I started Sold. Rebough and am sellining again.
You are much to superficial…it will getyou eventually my dear.

Mr. Sirro:
I am sorry. You are so brilliant and have matchless oratory skills like your candidate. I am so humbled that I must admit that your arguments, spelling, and thought processes for such a financial whiz that I admit that I am rendered speechless. Please keep all of your brilliance within your head because I am obviously such a dundering idiot that it is a waste of time to waste your intelligence on such a moron like me.

The 4th leading cause of illness and death is doctors and hospitals. A known fact by the American Medical Association (AMA). Obama’s national healthcare program will give trillions of dollars to fraudulent pharmaceutical companies that lie about the prescription medicines prescribed by doctors.
A few links of medicines lies:
http://www.icnr.com/articles/thimerosalcoverup.html?PHPSESSID=45bd1c367fc4aeef073ccacdb1f7e088
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/10/02/big-pharma-ties-wants-to-shut-down-vaccine-conspiracy-theories.aspx?source=nl
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/10/04/when-the-cure-is-worse-than-the-disease.aspx?source=nl
It is not just the rising cost of medical care The insurance carriers know that prescription drugs will cause more sickness and that a patient will require more medical care, and the vicious cycle goes round and round. It is the reason insurance carriers raise the premium for healthcare coverage.
There are doctors that will not take any vaccination because the doctors know the dangers. Obama will support the lies and everyone will think they have national healthcare. In fact, you will become dependent on drugs created by the pharmaceutical companies.

lets see …who doesnt have to pay taxes…state reps, congress, house and senate..POLITICIANS DO NOT PAY TAXES NOR DO THEY PAY FOR THERE HEALTH INS and theres is WALK IN WALK OUT ZERO DOWN UNLIMITED MAJOR MEDICAL.
THEY DONT PAY 1 DIME IN SOCIAL SECURITY…ALL PAID FOR BY AMERICAN WORKERS…ITS NOT THE RICH CORP THAT ARE RUINING THIS COUNTRY ITS THE POLITICIANS THAT FREE RIDE OFF THE BACKS OF WORKING AMERICA !
GET THESE BUMS OUT..PASS LAWS THAT WILL LIMITED THERE TIME IN OFFICE…IF THE PRESIDENT CAN ONLY SERVE 8 YEARS THEN
ALL FED AND STATE POLITICIANS SHOULD BE HELD TO 8 YEARS OFFICE MAX..PERIOD !

The taxpayers would like to see a 35% pay cut for all politicians in local, state and federal government.
Moreover,
A presidential term of 3 years and no other term.
Senators 3 years and no other terms.
Congressmen 3 years and no other terms

dmd
My son runs a public interst poverty law firm in LA:
since they are helping poor hispanic and asian people you probably wouldn”t like it.
They got a grant from ecchoing green(like the Blake Poem) Its called the POVERTY LAW CENTER- you can look it up
They can always use help-its good (not evil work), but one has to forgoe the rebublican country club luxury empty stuff rom my point.
I went to veranassi in India a couple of weeks ago and hung out near the ganges- that seemed worth something
here is the business: http://www.beyondthewall,com use my name, and you can have a free gift like big deal say $25 credit My name is Dan sirolly.
Peace- just always challenge what you thing you know, becaus you pribably don”t certitude is the prison of the arogant and the ignorant,.

That’s a good law to think about…anybody who’s ever been screwed over by the IRS should have to stay off TV, shut up, and not vote.
Brilliant!

dmd ,
I was wrong again the overty kaw center is Morris dees place in alabama.
MY sons group is ;
The wage justice center
on wiltshire near MArrthur park.
I alway double che becuase i said I find I am often wrong.

Who is this Joe the plumber? I have a firm conviction that this guy was used purposely by the MCCain campaign to deceive those Moron voters. I don’t know about you, this is clearly another sign of desperation by John MCCain because he is sliding down in the poll. That’s untrue, this scumbag so called Joe the plumber wasn’t making $250,000 year. He is barely making $40,000, and not even paying his taxes. I have seen nothing interesting with that Joe the plumber. If anything, his head looks exactly like a KKK head. Don’t you think so?

Today, the CEO of Google (the company who is or wants to build a database of all searches of everyone using their search engine) endorsed Obama. This afternoon, Obama’s thug attorney sent a letter to the Department of Justice attempting to pressure them to shut up the CRITICS of the desirously election-stealing community agitating group ACORN. Sounds like the (un)Fairness Doctrine is already getting ready to go.
First, they will try to quite talk radio. Then, they will come after all of us blogging. Even Liberal Obamamots should be deathly afraid of this. Under an Obama presidency and you voted for him, if you get disillusioned because you fail to receive your tax cut, or your healthcare, or any of your other big governmental giveaways, then your First Amendment right to free speech will controlled by the Central Government of the New World Order.
Sounds even more likely that the big, evil, socialist head of a stifling thugocracy is rising.

Stunning. Even for them.

or for christ sake listwn to Dylan, grateful deal, starship, Janis, doors all the early stuff to se the tangible idealism that was being born.
Then compare it tp the empty “badness” of brittany, and justin timberlake and all the rest of the empty pop party crapy.
THEN listen to nirvana, and pearl jam, rhcp and watch the bitter ironic expression of the death Knellpf possibility.
dansiro

“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
Thomas Jefferson
Paine wrote of the dangers of the revolutionaries in the French Revolution. He realized that society could crumble if the many “poor” went after the “rich” view, with the “poor” deciding who was “rich” and had to be killed.
Even Aristotle said that the community would fail if the poor decided to help themselves to the property of the rich.
I don’t know what books you read because they just fail to justify your position. Maybe, the spelling in the text is screwed up.

Hullahluha I agree and maybe will see a beam of light puoring into the decaying temple as these pale weraiths are defeated, and the powerful bronze hero initiates a Golden age- probably.not GO Obama yes; obama si; obama oui; obama Ja obama ( I am not being sarcastic) a new hero to inititate for the 100rh time a golden age..
never has it lasted t I rather pass in the ascession of this dream then in the decesion into the Miltonian hell of dying empite.
10/4 dansiro

Charles,
You clearly support McCain, so maybe YOU can answer my earlier question.
What, EXACTLY, will McCain do that would encourage me to vote for him? Can you answer that question WITHOUT mentioning anyone other than John McCain?
Posted by: NV-Sparkle
———————————–
To Charles and all other McCain supporters:
Please ignore this troll. He has been asking this question in other blogs as a “divertion” tactic – to divert attention from questions/comments about Messiah Obama’s socio/economic/political ideology, character, and judgement.
http://www.johnmccain.com

As repugnant as Obama’s relationship with Ayers is, the fact that for two decades Obama attended a church where paranoid hatred of America was preached on a regular basis is more telling. The senator counted as his minister, friend, and advisor a man who says that America created the AIDS virus to kill blacks, puts blacks in prison rather than killing them off, and deserved to be attacked on 9/11 because of its racism.
When the press finally picked up on stories Newsmax was running on Reverend Wright, Obama said he would not have belonged to the church if he had regularly heard Wright’s hate-filled statements. Yet when he announced for the presidency, Obama disinvited Wright from giving an invocation because his sermons can get “kind of rough.” Why did Obama not resign from the church then?
Last December, Wright gave an award to Louis Farrakhan for lifetime achievement. Why did Obama not resign then? Instead, after Newsmax broke the story on Jan. 14, Obama dissembled about the issue, saying the award was for Farrakhan’s work with ex-offenders. Neither the presentation nor the article about it in the church magazine mentioned anything about ex-offenders.
The truth is that Obama joined the church and adopted Wright as his friend and mentor because he feels an affinity for Wright’s radical views. Why else would he expose his kids to Wright’s “God d— America” tirades? Michelle Obama’s comment that, for the first time in her adult life, she feels proud of America, highlights the fact that she has the same blame-America-first mentality Wright promotes.
As with his minister, Obama repudiated Ayers only when press disclosures became too embarrassing.
As Max Noel, a former FBI agent who worked the Weather Underground case, tells me, “They [the Weather Underground] were a violent, violent, anti-government, domestic terrorist organization. Obama has not only associated with those people, he continued associating with racist people like his minister Jeremiah Wright over a period of 20 years. I don’t think that’s by happenstance. It’s just amazing to me. The American people are being led by the nose by people who say this isn’t important.”
In fact, Oliver “Buck” Revell, a former associate deputy director of the FBI who at one time oversaw the applicant and hiring process at the bureau, tells me the FBI would not hire such an individual as an agent.
“One of the principal purposes of the background investigation is to determine who an applicant associated with and the degree of association with any questionable associates,” Revell says. “Obama would certainly not have been hired on my watch.”

Cracker you are a sick pup… so what you’re telling me is Collen Powell has just given a raving endorsement to a racial terrorist loving presidential candidate? These FBI experts you quote are they the same people that allowed 911 on their watch? Gives me great confidence in anything they say or think.

Sen. McCain stepped up his attack this week when he said that the Obama plan’s “billions of dollars in higher taxes would kill jobs.” An Obama aide responded that “Sen. McCain’s tax policy is an exercise in unprecedented fiscal recklessness” that would “explode the deficit.”
Obama does not get it. MORE jobs means more taxes collected with spending cuts means REDUCTION of the deficit.
Obama wants to tax the oil companies and waste the collected taxes with federal government spending. The same spending waste used for his housing projects in Illinois. Where did the tax dollars go?
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=1
You Betcha Palin Is A Tough Governor: This is Governor Palin Way Of Spending Oil Tax Money.
During the oil crisis of 2007, Palin fought to raise taxes on oil companies. As fuel prices skyrocketed in the lower 49 states, Palin complained that her state wasn’t getting its share of the windfall.
Palin successfully pushed for a law that raised taxes on oil profits. The increase amounted to an estimated $1.6-billion annually more for the state: double the amount it received the year before. Then she gave the money to the people.
It’s true: we’ve already checked her claim that she sent “a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska.”
On Aug. 7, 2008, the Alaska Legislature approved a measure she promoted. The administration of Alaska’s governor Sarah Palin now gives $1,200 to every single Alaskan. This comes to about $741-million for state residents. In addition, each resident will receive an annual dividend of $2,000 from an oil-wealth savings account. That comes to about $741-million for state residents
For a family of 7 (Gov. Palin has 7 members in her family) that means an additional $22,400.00 in income sent from the state of Alaska. WOW, who needs a job! Back to the trailer, Billy Bob!
Sarah Palin is more ready for the Washington, D.C. crowd than Obama. Obama has proven he cannot even take care of a simple housing project. How can YOU expect Obama to run the country?
Obama gave the people in Illinois broken down housing and dangerous living conditions. Where did the money go? What pockets were filled with tax payers’ money from Washington, D.C.? We know where Governor Sarah Palin’s tax money is. The tax money is in the pockets of the residents of Alaska. BOOOOOOOO To Obama.
BOOOOOOOOOOO To Obama

Why in heaven’s name would McCain want advertise that more tax delinquents and criminals like Joe Wurzelbacher to support him? Here’s a jerk in denial, who thinks he incorrectly insists he doesn’t need a license to work as a plumber — who commits a crime everytime he illegally works on somebody’s plumbing. On top of that, he’s nearly $1,200 in arrears with his state taxes.
Yep, he’s a great symbol for the McCain-Palin team.

Also, it is only 3% increase tax on the money earned (after expenses) above $250,000. So if you are one of the FEW that earn OVER $250,000, say $270,000 you will only be taxed an additional 3% on $20,000. But if there are tax cuts at the lower end you will save in the range so it could be offset. Again, this $250,000 is after claiming expenses/losses in your business. It is INCOME! And you idiots are calling this socialism. Brains should be a requirement before voting.

Todd,
There are many Republicans and no doubt many Democrats that understand taxes, and their impact on international capital flows, than do you.
Todd, I think that you might be able to grasp the idea that few earn over $250,000 without a little help, a little help from, well, employees. Now, for simplicity, lets refer to those as employers, whether they be rich individuals or corporations. Enterprises run by wealthy individuals or corporations, Todd, may well, not be the only supplier of the products/services they offier. They may well compete against many suppliers, even some from abroad, even some from abroad having certain cost advantages. These cost advantages, Todd, could be wages, raw material prices or, Todd, they could be tax expenses. You are right Todd, taxes are expenses. Now, Todd, lets think about those U.S. corporations that are fighting for their life (please read this also to be fighting for the existence of the jobs that they offer, to employees, in the U.S.). Many corporations maintain physical presence in both the U.S. and the abroad. Now, Todd, hypothetically, if, their operations in the U.S. face an 80% tax rate on profits, while their Malaysian operations face only a 15% tax rate, then do you see Todd, how it makes economic sense, for the employer, to think it is likely a very good decision to move operations from Ohio to Malaysia? Maybe Todd, it will be more subtle, they might just stop hiring in Ohio and hire only in Malaysia. In any case, there are some in Ohio who might either be laid off or not hired.
Regardless, even though your dear candidate will offer 95% of all Americans a lower tax rate, those laid off because their rich employer had to shift jobs overseas, still have no job. They’ll be baffled 3 years from now. Maybe they’ll say, I should have said thanks, but no thanks Senator on that tax plan to nowhere.
So Todd, understand this simple lesson. The wealthy employ. If changes occur to the cost structure in their operations, including tax expenses, they will be incented to react, if they don’t they may find themselves at a cost advantage sufficient to erode their economic viability on a permanent basis, or at least until they cease to exist, in which case, nobody has a paycheck from them.
One last thing Todd, lets assume that our above corporation is not struggling, lets say that it is called Exxon. Well, Todd, Exxon produces some energy in American, using American employees to do so. America is not a cheap place to produce energy. What, Todd, do you think Exxon will do, when President Obamba raises, as he likes to say so often, taxes on corporations that export jobs overseas? You got it T! They’ll divest (reads: send to the unemployment lines) their American energy production operations.
The final thing that I want you to grasp Todd, is that when President Obama puts millions of Americans, formerly employed by corporations, onto the unemployment line, they will not, unless Ms. Pelosi gives them a welfare check, have any money to buy the goods and services offered by all small businesses, including those that he claims he will not tax additionally. They’ll be baffled to. President Obama, thanks for not taxing my income additionally, but, it is nowhere near $250k, as it was before you took office, it is $134k, what happened? I drank the Kook-aid! I promise I did.
Is it sinking in Todd? I hate to burst the bubble of all of you out there that have drank Mr. Obama’s kool-aid, but when he says “tax cuts for employers that export jobs overseas”, he isn’t really referring to Republican led legislation that actually instructed the IRS to give a tax credit to all corporations that actually did export jobs. What he is really referring to is Republican led legislation that incented corporations to not export jobs, by giving them a tax cut, but, even though the tax cuts were given, jobs were still exported, because the tax cuts weren’t sufficient, for some, to allow them to maintain their U.S. employment. This is yet another aspect that Mr. Gibson, Ms. Couric, MSNBC, etc. have failed to present to the American public. Shame on them!
I hope that this helps you Todd with your future postings, here and elsewhere.

That’s right: It ain’t over ’till the FAT LADY SINGS……….and all the votes are counted and the Supreme Court has it’s final ruling.
McCain/Palin 08

I do make more than 250,000.00 per year, and guess what, I am voting for Obama. After paying $540,000.00+ in income tax last year, I think I paid enough.
BUT, I dont think I will even have a business to go to if we keep the policies and destructive Us verses them mentality of the right wing years of the past.
I know I will be paying more in the future under an Obama administration, but I also believe my country is more important in the long run and have already voted for the Obama/Biden team.
Thanks Barack, you have restore my faith in this country which is the best place to live in the world.

Taxes 101 for Democrats – and Undecideds that want to see through the Kool-aid …….
I am glad you cleared that up. I thought a KADON was something Sarah shoots in Alaska for pleasure.
Thanks for the heads up.

How about Joe the Brother — the one who cusses out the 911 operator because she tells him he’s not supposed to use 911 to complain about traffic.