By Nitya

Oct 23, 2008 9:07am

McCain Drowning in Obama’s Money

Sen. Barack Obama’s fundraising advantage is giving him a tremendous edge over Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Take the commonwealth of Virginia, and these stats from ABC News’ deputy political director Karen Travers:

In that one battleground, Obama has 50 campaign offices to McCain’s 24.

Obama has 200 paid staffers in the state, McCain has 50.

Obama is spending $250,000 a day on TV ads in the state, while McCain is spending $30,000 a day.

This fundraising advantage comes directly as a result of Obama’s abandonment of his pledge to enter into the public financing system, a system creating to squelch the influence of money in presidential politics.

And while Obama’s campaign can rightly claim an unprecedented number of donors, and myriad small donations, it has also refused to abide by principles of full disclosure — it does not provide the public with the names of any donors who have given less than $200, for instance.

And amidst legitimate inquiries about some of that money coming (illegally) from non -U.S. citizens, and some of that money being given — in aggregate — in excess of individual contribution limits, one wonders why it is that the Obama campaign feels this refusal to inform the public where all its money is coming from in any way squares with Obama’s claim to be a reformer.

Just as it’s tough to envision a world where it’s the Obamas who have an unmarried pregnant teenage daughter and conservative pundits are celebrating that fact and demanding that the girl be given privacy, it’s tough to imagine a scenario where the media allows McCain to tiptoe away from his campaign finance pledge, untrammeled, and then drown his opponent in cash, the donors for much of which are undisclosed.

– jpt

User Comments

Can’t wait to see you talk about that on ABC News, Jake! Keep digging.

Posted by: The Dude | October 23, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

McCain would have more money if the RNC hadn’t spent so much money at Neimans, Saks and on McCain’s make-up artist from American Idol.

Posted by: Paige | October 23, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Jake, please comment on the latest state polls today. There are spectacular news at this final stage of the race.
And VERY bad news for McCain, I’m afraid.

Posted by: steven | October 23, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

Why doesn’t the media focus on Senator Obama’s flip flop on his promise to abide by the federal campaign spending limits? This is a real issue.
But the media only ignores what matters and fastens on the trivial, so as to promote Obama’s campaign.

Posted by: Jennifer | October 23, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

“it does not provide the public with the names of any donors who have given less than $200, for instance.”
LOL
That would millions of names, Jake. How to provide the public with millions of names in a sensible way? Come on.

Posted by: hank | October 23, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Money talks!

Posted by: Sandy | October 23, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

Barack never pledged to enter the public financing system. He pledged to basically talk about it. Work harder and get things right, tapper.

Posted by: jd | October 23, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

It doesn’t matter how much money they spend, it seems that people have an internal ignore switch, we are sick of hearing it. Every commercial break here has half a dozen election spots, half of them Obama’s, I don’t even hear them any more, I don’t even need to mute or change the channel, it is auto tune out. So go ahead a spend a billion or two, waste your money, doesn’t matter.

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 23, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

“it’s tough to imagine a scenario where the media allows McCain to tiptoe away from his campaign finance pledge, untrammeled, and then drown his opponent in cash, the donors for much of which are undisclosed.”
Why is that tough to imagine?
Are you serious Jake?
Where has the MSM been on huge old boys lobbyist network that IS the McCain campaign??
What has the MSM done for the investigation of Rick Davis’s very, very shady past as a lobbyist?
What has it done with McCain godfather like mob connections to the Las Vegas gambling world.
Etc etc?
Selective outrage, Jake. It is McCain who still has been given a free ride in this race, whereas EVERY Obama rumor lie have been exploited by both the MSM and the GOP.

Posted by: madeleine | October 23, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

jd, actually this is what he said:
September 2007 questionnaire from the Midwest Democracy Network, which included the question, “If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?”
Obama highlighted the answer “Yes,” and elaborated as follows:
I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests…. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election….If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 23, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

The campaigns should make a deal. Obama’s full disclosure of donor records in exchange for public release of McCain’s full medical records. BOTH campaigns are not completely transparent, though McCain’s is more troubling because voters are not convinced of his longevity and health, which could mean a President Palin – whom his voters might not actually want to see as PRESIDENT even if they can tolerate her as a VP.

Posted by: ES | October 23, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Jake,
Please reread the so-called “pledge” you cite incessantly. Really – you should post it verbatim here. It was more of a political two-step than the “pledge” you describe.
There are multiple problems with public campaign financing. First, the RNC has access to much more money than the DNC. Second, you’re complaining that the public is actually financing Obama’s campaign rather than him taking a government handout? Third, the flipside of the story is that in terrible economic times ordinary folks are still giving Obama money – don’t you think that says something? Fourth, don’t you think McCain would’ve done the exact same thing if he had the ability or organization to do so?
Obama’s camp is playing the game better. Just like the Republicans played it better the last two election cycles.

Posted by: MIguy | October 23, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

ES how about we have a look at O’s health records first, they have been allowed a look at Mac’s, but only 1 paragraph from O’s dr saying he is healthy.

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 23, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Well, I live in Fairfax County and I can say that there is a strange sentiment in the air. I have no doubt Obama will claim Fairfax County, as we have gone Democrat in the past two elections, but I believe there is some “blowback” building. People are grumbling about the exhaustive ads we are seeing on TV. I actually channel surfed last night through five simultaneous Obama commercials. I think the Obama campaign needs to be careful that they don’t turn people off. I know personally of two people that donated to the Obama campaign and are now getting up to 5 emails and 3 phone calls a day asking for more money. These people have asked to not be called anymore but are getting pummeled by the Obama folks to donate, knock on doors and attend rallies. Both of them are now voting for McCain out of spite. While I don’t think that’s a common trend, I believe there is a risk here that they should be mindful of in the closing weeks. There is a such thing as overkill.

Posted by: xjscave | October 23, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Thanks, sam, for posting the ‘pledge’. Obama was one of the few who actually bothered to answer that question…

Posted by: MIguy | October 23, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Dear Commentators (and Jake too), please read Kenneth Vogel’s piece in Politico talking about all the stuff journalists have questioned about the candidates but still have no answers. My response to Mr. Vogel and all the others who during this campaign preferred to deal with fluff rather than substance, it is a little late in the game to restore your tarnished reputations as serious journalists. After reading Vogel if you do not conclude that the American Public has been screwed by the mainstream media then you have your heads up and locked.

Posted by: jcarob | October 23, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Isn’t McCain breaking the very law he passed?
The 2002 campaign finance law that bears McCain’s name specifically barred any funds that “are donated for the purpose of supporting the activities of a federal or state office holder” from being used for personal expenses including clothing. A quirk in the law does not s

Posted by: Paige | October 23, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

re Post by: hank | Oct 23, 2008 9:23:10 AM
News flash! There was an invention called computers that can add up all the $200 or less donations per credit card. It actually works! We could also possibly find out who owns credit cards who gave far more than the legal limit as well as if the card holder resides in the US.
Of course Obama not only is unwilling to do it, he won’t allow others to even see.

Posted by: Dave in lv | October 23, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

This isn’t scientific, but almost everyone I know has contributed a few times to Obama’s campaign, and most haven’t contributed to a presidential campaign before. We are average citizens. Maybe there’s a couple questionable donations, but this truly is a campaign supported at the grass-roots level.

Posted by: t | October 23, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

No matter how much we hear about “election reform”, it’s STILL all about MONEY! Whoever has the most gets to run the country. Period.

Posted by: Rhys | October 23, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

There you go again Mr. Tapper. During the primaries, you wrote articles that subtly hit Obama. And now that election is near, you want to make a big deal about the money being donated to Obama. You seemingly want people to turn against Obama simply because he has been deluged with donations. Do you think Obama looks at the names of all the donors and how much each of them has donated each day? Your antipathy is showing.

Posted by: susie | October 23, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Jake, this article is not up to your usual investigative standards.
To be honest about how much money each candidate has to spend, you have to give the totals for the Republican and Democratic National Parties. ABC did an article early in the summer on this topic. I don’t have the figures but I remember the huge disparity between what the Republican Party had in funds and the Democratic Party had available. It was like a ten to one difference if my memory is accurate. So it isn’t honest to do a straight comparison between the money Obama has from donors and McCain’s funds when the Republican Party has such a huge war chest to help him out.
In this case, comparing the individual’s funds without taking into consideration the national parties’ funds, some of which will be given to the presidential candidates if needed, isn’t being honest on the topic.

Posted by: Lydia | October 23, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

t sorry to dissappoint you, but O’s is not a campaign supported at the grassroots level. Only 25% of that money comes from you small donors, 75% is big money donors. Of course you don’t have to beleive me, go and look it up the numbers were release last week and are all over the net.

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 23, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

“…it has also refused to abide by principles of full disclosure — it does not provide the public with the names of any donors who have given less than $200, for instance.”
That is very misleading. The Obama campaign HAS complied fully with FEC disclosure rules which don’t ask for disclosures of donations less than $200.
Yes, the McCain campaign has put their smaller donations up online but that was not until the last few weeks and only because they decided to make this an issue. So what you are actually complaining about is that the Obama campaign did not let themslves be bullied into juryrigging a response to the McCain campaign changing the rules in the middle of the campaign, correct?
I actually agree with you that all donations should be listed but that should be a requirement established before the campaign season, not in the last month of the election.

Posted by: The Other Ed | October 23, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

The overseas donations that Obama is hiding is has given him this advantage. He is trying to buy the election, if not, he will steal it with ACORN and MSNBC’s help.
Obama is a crooked lier.

Posted by: hateBO | October 23, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

A big difference between the two candidates’ campaigns is the large amount of volunteers manning Obama’s offices.
“In that one battleground, Obama has 50 campaign offices to McCain’s 24.”
The volunteers make this possible. Just like the millions donating to Obama’s campaign for the first time, people are volunteering their time to help.
It’s a beautiful thing for so many citizens to be active in their democracy.

Posted by: Lydia | October 23, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

The media Gives Obama the Edge.
Obama owns them, They only run Puff Headlines on Obama.
They Bury any unfavorale news fast on Obama.
Obama could not win if he had spent less. He needs more money right up to election day. Or he loses, his power over the people.
He has to keep it in their face 24/7
Without Marketing, Advertising and his mind conditioning speeches. Obama would have been out of this Race a long long time ago.
The kind Of Mind Program Obama has ran, Our Government was suppose to Protect the American People From.

Posted by: seah | October 23, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Obama broke up large donations into small amounts to avoid disclosure. It’s like breaking up a shopping basket full of hundreds of items into many small orders to use the speed checkout lane.

Posted by: geevill | October 23, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

I cannot believe that Dems don’t find this whole fund raising ordeal troubling. And have you heard the latest? USA Today reports: “Obama campaign to charge media election night fees” and we are talking $410-1870.
This is the height of arrogance, and the race is being bought. Too late Dems… you propped him up now we just might get what you asked for. Thanks alot.

Posted by: msa123 | October 23, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

8 STATES (Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut seeking judicial authority to certify Barack Obama qualifications —Obama is ignoring the suits (hired attorneys to fight), and the “media” does not wish to have the American public know what is going on —-DESPOTISM has arrived in America. Throw away the constitution!

Posted by: Ann | October 23, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

samhiguchi, your information on the percentage of small donors seems to be false.
‘Donors who have given more than $200 account for about half of Obama’s total haul, which stands at nearly $240 million.’ from the Washington Post.
All the other ariticles from news organizations said the same thing, that half of his money came from small donors giving less than $200.
It is heartening that so many people are giving to Obama’s campaign that haven’t ever donated money or their time to a campaign. Even us ‘little people’ can band together to have a real voice. More people getting involved in their democracy can only make our country stronger.

Posted by: Lydia | October 23, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Can anyone explain how the “We’re probably more forthcoming about disclosure than anyone” is derived from their practices? All along we’ve said look at the actions not the words. But his followers believe every spun word that comes out of his mouth. It is unbelievable.
USA Today October 7, 2008:
“Republican John McCain’s campaign lists all his donors, even those who give less than $200, on his website.
The Obama campaign has begun to request passport numbers from donors to verify their citizenship.
Asked why the Obama campaign does not do the same and open its database to the public, Axelrod said the campaign returns improper contributions.
“Obviously we’ve got a huge database of contributors,” he said. “It’s valuable to our campaign … We’re probably more forthcoming about disclosure than anyone.”
Independent watchdog groups, however, have asked the campaign to provide more information about its fundraisers and to at least provide information about small donors by zip code or country from where they donate.

Posted by: msa123 | October 23, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

NBC along with MSNBC has lost credibility with me. The final straw is the partnership of NBC with ACORN. Two corrupt organizations trying to beg, borrow or steal the presidency for barack obama. Get read to pledge allegiance to ObamaOmerica.

Posted by: stolen | October 23, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Madeleine, a new study shows that Sen. McCain has received three times more negative reporting by the mainstream media than Sen. Obama. And not just negative, but made up lies.
Here is a great example.
The other day, the National Review had an article by Byron York which included the following: “Watching press coverage of the Republican candidate for vice president, it’s sometimes hard to decide whether Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, backward or…all of the above. Palin, the governor of Alaska, has faced more criticism than any vice-presidential candidate since 1988…”
YET, in an interview with Gov. Palin, CNN’s Drew Griffin stated the following: “The National Review had a story saying…”That I can’t tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above.”
Mr. York was clearly criticizing the mainstream media bias against Gov. Palin, but Mr. Griffin twisted his words to make it appear as if Mr. York was saying that Gov. Palin was incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above…”
Now you may believe that, but that is not the point. Mr. York does NOT believe that. Yet, here we have the mainstream media, CNN specifically, lying and ambushing Gov. Palin with that lie. CNN has yet to apologize or even comment on this.
As an example of the reverse, Sen. Obama LIED in the last debate. He said, “The only involvement I’ve had with ACORN was I represented them alongside the U.S. Justice Department in making Illinois implement a motor voter law that helped people get registered at DMVs.” Everyone in the mainstream media KNOWS THIS TO BE A LIE. Yet the mainstream media, with very few exceptions, has ignored this lie. Sen. Obama worked for ACORN. He conducted leadership seminars for new ACORN organizers. And he used to be the executive director of the voter registration arm of the Chicago branch of ACORN.
The majority of the mainstream media is clearly biased and will do anything to get Sen. Obama elected President of the United States.

Posted by: James Danley | October 23, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

msa, those are just the base charges per person, you have to pay extra for long distance and other services. Money hungry fools!

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 23, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Now I understand how useful are all this laws about campaigns that we have in my country… equal time on tv for all candidates (this is severely monitored), no polls disclosed in the two weeks before the election. Campaign expenses are also monitored, and reimbursed afterwards upon justification. And of course, no cold calling. Our system may be far from perfect, but at least people do not end up elected just because they have more money to waste. Good luck to you with the results.

Posted by: Frog | October 23, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

I have been opposed to public financing from the beginning. It is a waste of public money with way to many loopholes, that ties the hands of individuals but opens the coffers of the of lobbyist and the 527s.
Obama’s fund raising efforts, have effectively shut it down. If people want to contribute, let them do it directly. With public financing I am forced to contribute to a candidate, or candidate’s that I do not support.

Posted by: Thinking | October 23, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Obama the see no, hear no, speak no. Does he even know where he is?

Posted by: no | October 23, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

Frog, do you mind saying what country has such good campaign finance laws?
The t.v. limits especially sound good, that way only the campaigns themselves can put out a limited number of ads.

Posted by: Lydia | October 23, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Lydia, CBS at least had the courage to run the truth:
Lost in the attention given to Obama’s Internet surge is that only a quarter of the $600 million he has raised has come from donors who made contributions of $200 or less, according to a review of his FEC reports.

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 23, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

The Campaign for President is a test
to see how well The Candidates can
handle the not to simple job of getting
elected … at this time I think it is
clear that Obama has the the right
stuff to make a fine President…
if something were out of order
I Do Trust McCain to bring it to
not only the American people but also
the FBI …. or do they love him too?
lol…………..

Posted by: Anita Yova | October 23, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Thanks Jake. Contrary to the rest of your ilk at ABC, at least you attempt to be objective. Just look at all the negative headlines on ABC’s webpage today directed against McCain/Palin.
And yes, we’ve learned a lesson. Reform is good when it’s reform to help you win.
This election is being bought.

Posted by: ja | October 23, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Yeah. I’m a firm Obama supporter and I agree. The campaign needs to disclose their small donors. If they’re worried about the privacy of these donors, some of whom might not want their names to be public, maybe some sort of password so it’s accessible without being exploitable or harmful to the privacy of these donors. I know if I had donated, I wouldn’t want my name out there publicly; I wouldn’t feel comfortable about it.
Regardless, though, for the sake of the system, it needs to be disclosed. It’s not fair if it’s not, and more importantly, the precedent it sets for other such campaigns can be easily exploited unethically.
When you’re playing with that much money, you need to be as forthright as possible. It’s just scary when you’re not.

Posted by: sm | October 23, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Lets be clear
this time it’s the “not wealthy” that are giving those moneys…
this time it is not the republican machine screwing us up
it’s Ma and Pa Kettle…and the real “joe Plumbers” and “Joe Policeman” and Jane Firefighter” and “Joe Teacher”
telling the fake plants…
our money may be small in individual size…
but together there are more of us than there are of you.
what this election will prove…is that we are NOT a “right of center” country
we are “left of center”
because that is where real “AMERICAN value voters…who understand “right and wrong” without dogma… exist.
“the emperor and the right wing have no clothes!”

Posted by: dl | October 23, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

This is a serious problem. The Washington Post reported yesterday that only 25% of Obama’s money is coming from small donors. Where is the transparency?
This is not right . The United States is in desparate need of campaign finance reform. Why are we standing back and allowing the presidency to be bought by the highest bidders? Is this the way a progressive, free country wants to elect it’s president?

Posted by: rafraf | October 23, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Thinking,
Please think before commenting. Obama has opened the gates to lopsided presidential elections in the future. Sure, it’s great when your candidate is rolling in money, but what happens when the next Dem candidate comes up. They always pull less money then Republicans, and when that happens and the tables are switched, I’m sure you’ll be complaining.

Posted by: ja | October 23, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Thinking wrote: “With public financing I am forced to contribute to a candidate, or candidate’s that I do not support.”
I wonder! Are you as upset that your tax money pays the salaries of candidates that you do not support?

Posted by: James Danley | October 23, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Jake, this is nonsense. The GOP has always raised a lot more money through the much larger donations permitted to the RNC. RNC can advertise for McCain, and does.
If Obama had taken public financing, it would be McCain/RNC drowning them. Add the fact that the GOP have their private TV network in FOX news, and you can see why taking public financing would have meant a sure Obama loss. GOP whining about this is exactly that: whining.

Posted by: Tungsten | October 23, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Tungsten,
Sure you joke regarding your comment about FOX being Republican’s private channel. Yes, that’s probably true…..but you neglect to mention that ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC are all owned by the Dems!

Posted by: ja | October 23, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

This argument goes against the GOP premise
Instead of sitting on his duff and collecting a government handout, Barack Obama got out there and raised his own money.
So Republicans, OBAMA representsand exemplifies your mindset. SUPPORT HIM.

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

ja
considering Fox news is run by an ex republican operative…
you are WAY off based and ill informed.

Posted by: dl | October 23, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

“This fundraising advantage comes directly as a result of Obama’s abandonment of his pledge to enter into the public financing system, a system creating to squelch the influence of money in presidential politics.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- Senator Obama’s “pledge” was a conditional statement based on reaching an agreement with the Republican nominee. That agreement wasn’t reached.
-John McCain has received assistance from the Republican Party and SEVERAL outside groups in this campaign – just as Republicans always do to get around the campaign finance laws. Are you adding in those totals for John McCain, Jake?
- The law does not require small donors to be disclosed. Why are you creating the impression that Senator Obama has some kind of obligation to do something that the law DOES NOT REQUIRE HIM to do?
- Senator Obama should be applauded for rejecting money from the special interest groups and lobbyists that have run Washington for all these years.
- WE THE PEOPLE are taking our government back – at the voting booth, with our fundrasing donations, and yes, even by holding renegade members of the media RESPONSIBLE for their “journalism”.
Not this time Jake.
Senator Obama has met his obligation under the law, and no amount of griping and whining is going to change that.
Senator McCain was WELL AWARE of Senator Obama’s fundraising ablilities after watching the Democratic primaries. His failure to PLAN for the OBVIOUS is another strike against his JUDGEMENT.
Period.

Posted by: Nashville_fan | October 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

The loss of a country’s democratic principles is indicated by the amount of corruption the general public is willing to ignore.
This is corruption, plain and simple, and Americans and the media are turning their heads.
When Bush overstepped his power, the media was there to call it – nonstop. It seems that when Obama does so, the media will cover it up.
Democracy is dead in America.

Posted by: Jeremy | October 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

really
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLLLLLENT POINT
Public finance needs to go.
Just imagine…. my tax dollars contributes to those vile robo calls I am now getting from the mccain campaign.

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

It’s there for all to see. The election is being bought, and it will never be viewed as otherwise now. And it’s not ‘ma and pa kettle’ donating as Obama would like people to think. He must really think the American people are gullible and stupid. Some Obama fans think it’s okay because ‘their guy’ is one with the funds. If the shoe was on the other foot, they would be whining and stomping their feet and crying in their soup. The “rich” are the enemy of the Dems remember? Oh, forgot already? You’re voting for a fraud, if you vote for Obama.

Posted by: msa123 | October 23, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Jeremy
this year proves that democracy isn’t dead in America
as the last 9 years would have had you believe…
America almost lost it’s democracy and destroyed itself by the lies spin and damage we see still coming from the same GOP team
putting this Mccain palin ticket forward.
Mccain sold his soul for his own career and achievement…
America is cashing that check…and unfortunately Mccain is going to lose that risk he took in selling his character for spin and garbage tactics
same team
same tactics 9th year.
throw these bums out!

Posted by: dl | October 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Tungsten, you failed to mention that NBC and MSNBC are Sen. Obama’s private TV networks!

Posted by: James Danley | October 23, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

He’s spending 250k a day on advertising? That number sounds so familiar… I know: Let’s take that money every day and give it to the less fortunate. Ah but no… let’s give it instead to a man who wants power and control of the country so that he can take it from the people to give to the less fortunate.

Posted by: msa123 | October 23, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

The law is clear Jack. Donations under 200 are not required to be released.
IF both sides want transparancy? then McCain and Palin need to release their medical records…which I think is more affecting of the public.
As for Obama having more money? It was a judgement call and it looks as though McCain, once again, made the wrong one.

Posted by: Grissom | October 23, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

The point is if obama had only public funding money, he wouldn’t deal with maccain campaign’s smears like terrorist, socialist attacks.
GOP campaign are so mean and so raw, they paralize people’s brain.
I myself as a obama supporter, i was quite dissapointed by his flip flop on this issue, but you have to use barb to take out the poison.

Posted by: zen | October 23, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

ya know …. osama bin laden himself could be sending money to barack. I could not care less.
its called freedom of speech. its up to the candidate to sell his soul.
if i was running for sherriff and knowingly got money from a crook. i would give him a wink and a nod take his money. and after i am elected i would go and lock him up.

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

DL,
This year proves democracy is dead in America.
When Bush overstepped his power, he was called out on it and impeachment was called for (though not ultimately done). His approval rating is dismal. Americans are not standing for his compromise of democracy.
This year, however, the media is covering over the deep-seated corruption in the Obama campaign.
From here on, elections in the US will be bought. Obama has just compromised democracy to a degree on par with Bush

Posted by: Jeremy | October 23, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

If McCain Ran the Country the way
he has Ran down his Campaign
We would in up in a 3rd Great Depression
……….Obama Made him do it…….lol

Posted by: Anita Yova | October 23, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

ja
and the reason you think the rest of the media is in the tank for Obama
is because they can not avoid facts…
like they were “worked” into doing for 9 years…
problem is Fox has fooled the American people for those 9 years…making spin look like facts…
and Ailes is good at it…look at his expertise…the name “Leni reifenstahl” mean anything to you.
the reason the media may seem biased to those who have been watching Fox is because for a decade they were fooled into forgetting about facts and what it is to have a reporter who actually has brains…and no agenda but the welfare and awareness of their audience…the American people.
Fox was created to manipulate that for power reasons…and the seems are starting to leak on that venture.

Posted by: dl | October 23, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

mccain – government handout
obama – made his own money
who would the republican vote for?

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Look at the sad, pathetic rationalizations people are making for Obama buying this election.
Oh he needed the money to fight the smears. Give me a break, Obama has smeared just as much as McCain.
You fools don’t even know the long-term consequences of what you are supporting. Sure, you’ll buy this election but from now on the Republicans are going to have a huge cash advantage and buy ever election afterwards. Sad.
As far as I’ve seen, Obama has done nothing but ill for this country so far.

Posted by: ja | October 23, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

McCain gets his money from lobbyists and PACs.
Obama gets his money from small donors.

Posted by: Virginian Marine | October 23, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Hello Jake,
I, too, would like Obama to disclose the names of donors under $200.00, but aren’t you making much ado about nothing?
The candidate running as a reformer, and whose signature issue is campaign finance reform, is John McCain. Obama hasn’t been running on a reform platform, per se. He wants to sweep out the old style of politics and bring in the new. A politics not based on Rovian division, but post-partisan cooperation. You seem to be confusing the platforms on the mantra of reform.
Moreover, Obama has complied with the laws as they exist–laws crafted by McCain that are now the proverbial millstone around his neck.
The Obama campaign, while flawed, is probably the best run campaign in electoral history. It has stuck to its core message through thick and thin, while opponents to it have flailed in the wind. Obama’s campaign has been built on bedrock while McCain’s and Hillary’s were built on sand.
So, would I like more transparency? Sure. Do I think there’s a conflict between Obama’s platform and financial practices? Not so much.

Posted by: ChrisNBama | October 23, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Jeremy
there is no “deep seated” ugh corruption in the Obama campaign
that is more “fox” Hannity spin…idiot Ailes puppets…
the corruption is people like the same team from Bush Cheney that Mccain Palin has hired…
and like people like Gramm who after the congress passed an effort to expand home ownership…within months shepherded deregulation through for the investment banks to deregulate and take advantage of what would have been a good thing for our economy and country.
The Gramm leachey bill was passed the same year…literally months after the passing of the mortgage expansion measures…
the slimes on wall street saw an opening to take advantage of the mortgage industry just like they did with energy and Enron…
and it was the same guy…
the same guy that McCain hired to literally plan our economic future.
that is the truth
and when all the dust is settled we will see one man standing at the center of this… Gramm.
Go look it up…go look at when the mortgage push happened …and when Gramm Leachey was being ushered through the halls of congress…removing our economic safety net with the mortgage industry …so investment banks and wall street greed could take advantage of it…
Gramm did during a republican congress…with veto proof passing.
scum
throw these bums out…and turn off Fox.

Posted by: dl | October 23, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

ja
ansd the idea that Obama has “smeared” like McCain
pretty much sums up your logic…
lol
on the percentage of negative balance within each of the campaigns
Mccain’s was 100% the priority
Obama’s was the problems we face as the priority.

Posted by: dl | October 23, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

I should say when all is said and done there will be one man and one group at the bottom of what destroyed our nation so much over the last decade…
Phil Gramm and Fox News.
when the historians look back …that will be two very dark black marks on our nation’s history.
and the descendants of people who helped those two things or argued for them…
will look back and laugh that they were related to those people.

Posted by: dl | October 23, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

McCain gets negative coverage because his campaign is negative!
Obama gets positive coverage because his campaign is positive..
It that simple!!
FOX NEWS IS PROPAGANDA!

Posted by: aussie | October 23, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

wonder! Are you as upset that your tax money pays the salaries of candidates that you do not support?
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It is a function of government to pay the elected officials. It is NOT the function of government to pay for the candidates campaign office.
If we have a government that pays for and decides who can and who cannot get public assistance to run for office, then we have something other than a democracy.
You Republicans are always screaming get the government out of your lives, I say keep it out of the campaigns. A Free, and Democratic Government starts without government intervention.

Posted by: Thinking | October 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

$600 MILLION dollars! What a waste.. If he spends money like this in a campaign, how much of OUR tax money will he spend as President.. It’s been like water to him.. He doesn’t care it’s not his… He’s cheap with his own money, gives little to charity and has a brother in Africa living on less than a $1 a day, but he doesn’t help him.. And he won’t help us either, he’ll send all our hard-earned money to all his croneys in his left wing groups, and we’ll be footing the bill.

Posted by: Horse Rider | October 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

So many supporters tell me how they are donating as a response to poor behavior by McCain/Palin and certain supporters.
McCain supporters might be winning the yard sign war by stealing Obama signs, we’ll settle for winning the election.
We’re being patient and ignoring the bad behavior from what is actually a small percentage.

Posted by: McGreen | October 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

I am ONE of those alleged overseas non-Americans! MY name is french sounding, but I AM AN AMERICAN who’s in France at the moment. I don’t want my name given to the public because I do not want my name used by scammers or lists of possible donors to OTHER causes. I believe the small donor LIST should be private.

Posted by: Independant American Woman | October 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Right on Aussie!
Block all voices of dissent who speak against liberalism!
The world will not be free of corruption until liberals own every news outlet! lol

Posted by: ja | October 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

ja
Im all for free speach it just shouldnt pretend to be news!
Rupert murdoch lost the right to own a TV network in Australia because he was swapping good coverage from the news department for cash…
After the investergation he lost the court case he had to sell his tv assets..
So he moved to london and did the same thing their he is currently being investergated by the EU for the same scams!!
You should be able to say what ever you want but dont lie and call it news because its not!!

Posted by: aussie | October 23, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

The Republicans Will Learn in 2012
how to use the Internet like the
Democrats …. So how many People are
going to send them money like they did
Obama? … Depends on the candidate
someone showed they seemed to have
the right stuff Ronald Reagan would
have done well in his day even with
small donors … Rep or Dem depends on
the man… The Internet empowers
the little guy… a steady drip can
fill a pool……. or 10 Dollars
doubling its self everyday for 6 months
can lead to some real money….with
thousands sending it in….

Posted by: Anita Yova | October 23, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Barack needs every dime to win against the BIGOTS, RACISTS, destructive NEW Rebublicans and their extreme right HITLER MCCARTHY 527′s and hate robocalls, FOX news hate machines!
He is fighting for our AMERICAN dream and our civil rights – The United States of AMERICA – not the pro-America/anti-America facists. If it takes $1 billion to beat these idealogical crazy McCarthy followers who are trying to take over the
equaltiy of our nation – I SAY GIVE IT!
The new GOP – EXTREME Right and WRONG!
RESTORE the MIDDLE CLASS! RESTORE AMERICA’s RESPECT in the WORLD! VOTE OBAMA!

Posted by: Independant American Woman | October 23, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

How can someone win a fair election if you are being outspent 4 to 1. This was not the way elections were to be held by our founding fathers.
I think all candidates should have to provide any funds coming from foreign countries. We the people need to decide who is best for our country and not with outside world and influences.
This seems to be a common theme in Obamas world anyways. How he was able to buy his house in Chicago was through sources in the middle east and Tony Rezco.
How can we elect or hire someone for our highest office if they have dealings with too many sketchy people? Wright, Rezco, Ayers.
Please people wake up and vote with what you know is right. We are talking about a War Hero with 27 years experience vs. a shady person who speaks with influence. A person we know nothing about except he was a Senator with an agenda of becoming President after only a short time.
Do what is right…..

Posted by: Corey B | October 23, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

I donated less that 200.00! And yes I make less than 250,000.00 a year!
OBAMA- BIDEN 2008

Posted by: kellie | October 23, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

It doesn’t have anything to do with TV advertising – vote for Obama and he’ll give you $1500 next years. That’s a perfectly legal way to buy your vote (while he sells the country out to China, Russia, and international Terrorists).

Posted by: Neo Politicus | October 23, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

WOW! JUST SHOWS HOW MANY SUPPORTERS SENATOR OBAMA HAS, DOESN’T IT? He is the right man for the job, no matter what dribble McShameless wants to smear around. McCain sold his honor to run a baseless bunch of lies and inuendoes. Not the kind of leadership the Intelligent People out here want. Hope we get to send Palin’s lying mouth home soon too.

Posted by: Barbara | October 23, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

ja,
I did watch the debates.
Have you watched the McCain/Palin campaign?
I don’t have to debate who is lying with you, just like Senator Obama doesn’t have to debate who is lying with John McCain.
WE THE PEOPLE will decide.
Having the truth on my side is enough, your approval is not required.

Posted by: Nashville_fan | October 23, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Oh by the way I forgot to mention I live in the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! I AM A PROUD AMERICAN AND I BELIVE IN THE DREAM! I’m living the dream!

Posted by: kellie | October 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

I work for a major news organization that has recently endorsed Obama. It has nothing to do with the fact that the Obama Campaign has single-handidly saved our butts in the last 3 quarters thanks to his expenditures for advertising.

Posted by: glennmcgahee | October 23, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

jpt writes:
“one wonders why it is that the Obama campaign feels this refusal to inform the public where all its money is coming from in any way squares with Obama’s claim to be a reformer.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

glennmcgahee
If thats the truth have the guts to name the media or it seem like your lying ?

Posted by: aussie | October 23, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Indpendant American Woman
I could not have said it any better.
While you are calling Obama
Socialist
Communist
Radical
Untrusted
Untested
etc.
CALL HIM SMART
Imagine Barack Obama fighting the good ole boy networks on 80 million.
like I said
CALL HIM SMART

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

“I did watch the debates.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

So I assume people wouldn’t mind it if their credit card company randomly posted some of their small purchases online along with their name and zip code, without their permission, or without warning them?

Posted by: Danny | October 23, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Well DUH Jake, of course it’s tough to imagine a world where an Obama daughter is pregnant.
Barack would haul her off to the nearest abortionist
Yes, Obama has lots of money, much of it from foreign sources, much of it illegal, but Democrats and media hacks aren’t concerned with legality.

Posted by: Lynn2008 | October 23, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Belle Starr
Thanks for the warning.
Imagine a world without Nader
He done great things early in his career with motor safety laws.
He was instrumental in saving American Lives
then
He ran for president in 2000 where he took votes that would have went to Gore.
He was instrumental in lost lives of Servicemembers
one good thing about all that Lieberman did not become my VP!!!!

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

“Imagine Barack Obama fighting the good ole boy networks on 80 million.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Hey folks, NEWS FLASH! Obama is flush with cash!
WoooHooo
‘nother NEWS FLASH! It’s all LEGAL!
And the reason is that the majority of Americans are fed up with the status quo and are tired of being fed a line of crap. Just ask Michelle Bachman.
The catalyst for September fundraising??? Try Sarah Palin!! Her selection as VP scared the donations out of wallets folks.

Posted by: Bob | October 23, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Building a personality cult on a manufactured persona withOUT a personality is going to turn out to have been a really big mistake.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 23, 2008 11:20:13 AM
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Call it what you want. If I am not mistaken the McCain camp is the only devisive campaign. talking about pro-america and real america.
You should look take notice of the toxic cesspool you are swimming in.
btw.
The audacity of the cult Obama to change all this peace and prosperity we are having right now.

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Belle Starr
Barack Obama’s campaign is paid for by the American people!
McCains campaign is paid for by the compaines and lobbyists!
Who’s side do you think McCain is going to be on ?
Who’s side do you think Obama is going to be on ?

Posted by: aussie | October 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

America’s response to Sarah Palin:
150,000,000 + no votes in September.
Just waiting to find out what the October numbers are.

Posted by: Bob | October 23, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

“[Nader] ran for president in 2000 where he took votes that would have went to Gore.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

By the way, this is now the third consecutive day of this small donor story here at this blog.
This story was the main subject of a reporters’ conference call from McCain’s campaign manager Rick Davis on Monday, as reported by Jennifer Skalka of the National Journal, 10/20/08.
Shouldn’t there be some disclosure on that?

Posted by: Danny | October 23, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Belle Starr
Barack Obama’s campaign is paid for by the American people!
McCains campaign is paid for by the compaines and lobbyists!
Who’s side do you think McCain is going to be on ?
Who’s side do you think Obama is going to be on ?
Posted by: aussie | Oct 23, 2008 11:25:48 AM
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Don’t leave out me the taxpayer. Public finance has got to go.
I can not stomach the fact that I am contributing to the vile robocalls mccain is sending out against obama and the 150,000 shopping spree

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Obama knew he could never go the public financing route, given what happened to Kerry in 2004 and the unlimited money among the 527s.
And given the multitude of smears against Obama, I’m glad he didn’t go that route. In fact, the smears have probably led to a lot of the donations they’ve received.
I doubt his campaign could ever have imagined raising $150 million in one month, mostly from small donors. It’s really incredible and shows the amazing support that Obama has.

Posted by: cincyr | October 23, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Senator Obama pledged to enter into the public financing program if Senator McCain also pledged to accept public financing. Senator McCain accepted public financing, Senator Obama went back on his pledge, preferring to rely campaign contributions.
The legitimacy of $600+ million in campaign contributions is suspect due to the sheer amount. The Obama campaign’s disclosure refusal adds concern that the fund has knowingly, and willfully received illegal contributions.
Would an Obama Presidency be shrouded in secrecy like the Obama campaign? And would a President Obama be as quick to not honor pledges, as Senator Obama has in his campaign?

Posted by: LJC | October 23, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

“Who’s side do you think Obama is going to be on ?”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

“Would an Obama Presidency be shrouded in secrecy like the Obama campaign? And would a President Obama be as quick to not honor pledges, as Senator Obama has in his campaign?”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Omentum
I read that over here and that the Rusians refused John McCain’s request for donations!
Obama safe steady trust worthy an on the side of the people!

Posted by: aussie | October 23, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

McCain
The Obama campaingn said that your folks are racist and rednecks and I cannot not agreem with them more.
(paraphrasing)
Response: crickets.
Come on folks. There is a bingo game waiting for this guy.

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Omentum
I read that over here and that the Rusians refused John McCain’s request for donations!
Obama safe steady trust worthy an on the side of the people!
Posted by: aussie | Oct 23, 2008 11:35:20 AM
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Thanks for the assurance. Looking forward to becoming true partners in the world again!!!!
OBAMA 08

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

“By the way, this is now the third consecutive day of this small donor story here at this blog.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Jake,
Do you like your herring smoked or deep fried?
I’m not sure how to read your increasingly strident editoralizing here? Have you thought through this issue at all?
Are you for restricting freedom of speech? That is what the Supreme Court has ruled a campaign contribution is.
Millions of individuals have made small contributions to Obama (disclosure – I have not, I donated to a GOP candidate this year). The fact that he had the support of small donors enabled him to overcome other candidates who had a lot more of the high dollar donors in their camp.
The fact is that people are very supportive of Obama with their hard earned money (and very much less so of John McCain). The law says you have to delineate contributions of $200 and above.
McCain relies on high-dollar donors. Do you realize how much of an extra clerical and accounting burden (and financial expense) it would to put up 2-3 million small dollar donations online?
Being someone who believes in privacy rights, if I had donated a small amount to Obama I would not want my contact information out there on the Internet for the world to see. And especially since there are so many hateful, scary people running around (and doubly so since I hail from a very GOP area – heck that’s the only party I’ve been affiliated with…)
So, take your red herring from Team McCain, add a little tartar sauce and get back to reporting on some real issues.

Posted by: Bud | October 23, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Belle Starr:
Under Obama’s health care plan, you will be able to afford the medication you need for your paranoid delusions.
In the meantime, cut off your radio and go for a walk from time to time.
Clears the head.

Posted by: Nashville_fan | October 23, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

“Would an Obama Presidency be shrouded in secrecy like the Obama campaign? And would a President Obama be as quick to not honor pledges, as Senator Obama has in his campaign?”

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but why are people presuming guilt when there is no evidence of it. As McCain, and Tapper knows, since this is at least the third time he has done a story about this, the campaign is not required to disclose its donors of less than $200, because of the feasibility of doing so. I find it interesting that Tapper points out that Obama has been flagged for questionable donations, but so has McCain. I find it interesting that people wag their finger at Obama for failing to be a reformer, while McCain has the biggest lobbyist in D.C. working on his campaign.
And Obama did not give an unequivocal pledge to accept public financing. He said that he would pursue discussions with the Republican nominee, but would also not disarm unilaterally. For those that feel that his discussions weren’t agressive enough, that is up for debate, but he certainly approached the McCain campaign about it, and I recall that McCain said that he would not “referee” third parties or the his own party for that matter.
And another reason that accepting public financing was going to be highly unlikely, if not downright stupid is that Obama was pursuing a 50 state strategy. Now we can sit here all day and try to act high minded, but in order to fund those campaign offices, that takes a lot of money, and to change the state of the map it takes a lot of money. And, unlike McCain, Obama doesn’t have name recognition and this iron clad public hero persona. He has to be more aggressive to get out there, and for people to get to know him better.
So yes, on the one hand, Obama is certainly not pure on campaign finance issues, but for those clutching their pearls and acting like there is some conspiracy going on here is a bit much.

Posted by: TRW | October 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Omentum
Looking forward to the USA being one of the good guys again!
: )

Posted by: aussie | October 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

By the way, this is now the third consecutive day of this small donor story here at this blog.”

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Obama’s broke no laws!
Republican are just upset that the people of America are taking thier country back!
Obama 08
Obama’s cashed up and cant be smeared !!

Posted by: aussie | October 23, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

At the end of the day, Obama looks like he made the right decision. He put McCain at a serious disadvantage.

Posted by: r-dub | October 23, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

“one request
Respect the President.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

“Looking forward to the USA being one of the good guys again!”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Can’t wait for the investigations to begin. They won’t begin until he has spent it all though.

Posted by: Mack | October 23, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Those following and believing Senator Obama’s political rhetric are weak minded and truly uninformed. He is a socialist/communist/Marxist of the worst sort. He spits in the face of traditional values and lifesyles.
If the people sending money to the Obama campaign get their money from food stamp fraud or other government freebies, they should go to jail for fraud.

Posted by: Mary | October 23, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

“”Looking forward to the USA being one of the good guys again!”
Yes everyone felt pity for us during our last Great Depression.

Posted by: Mack | October 23, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

“Those following and believing Senator Obama’s political rhetric are weak minded and truly uninformed.”
Useful idiots.

Posted by: Mack | October 23, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

“one request
Respect the President.”
I’ll be flying my American Flag upside down if that one is elected. I’ll also be flying an empty suit in protest.

Posted by: Mack | October 23, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

“one request
Respect the President.”
I’ll be flying my American Flag upside down if that one is elected. I’ll also be flying an empty suit in protest.
Posted by: Mack | Oct 23, 2008 12:01:05 PM
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Be my guest. America is beautiful isn’t it. Freedom of Speech. Wonderful

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

“I’ll also be flying an empty suit in protest.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Mary,
That fearmongering/lie approach?
Not working.
Obama/Biden ’08/’12

Posted by: Nashville_fan | October 23, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

“I’ll also be flying an empty suit in protest.”

Posted by: Omentum | October 23, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Belle Starr
The difference is the Obama’s spent their own money. Palin got money to spare.

Posted by: MM | October 23, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Obama is in Indiana telling people to vote. McCain is telling people that Obama is unpatriotic. Actions are louder then words.

Posted by: MM | October 23, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

“The difference is the Obama’s spent their own money.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 23, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Since I decided to support Barack Obama I have donated small amounts on a monthly basis. Obama tremendous fund raising organizational skills helps remind me to donate monthly. I get alerts all the time with information and also go view site for information. I find information sent is wonderful. I have gotten more involved. Obama campaign is always polite and do appreciate their sincerity.
Barack Obama took a huge chance when he declined Public Financing. Democrats were way behind Repunlicans for amount of money they had for this Presidential election. All experts analyzed Republican machine would crush Democrats as they had the money and 527 Group super rich money to attack Obama and crush Democrats. Experts showed Democratic Party hardly had any money. Democrats had never been highly successful in raising large amount of campaign funds. Then Barack Obama formed an alliance with them this summer. Republicans are now the one with less money. Barack Obama has moved Democrats ahead. Many fundraisers conducted since then. Now large donors have outpaced small donors for Obama. But we the small donors are still the backbone for Obama. All was huge chance. Obama could have failed, and many thought he would when he declined. But Barack Obama succeeded!!!
Obama had faith in American people. This has paid off in all ways.
July-August last summer Democratic Fundraisers were started and held. Now we can see the big difference in the difference management styles of Republicans, John McCain, and Barack Obama. DEMOCRATS ARE NOW ONES WITH THE MONEY. YES, THE UNLIKELY ONES OF THE PAST. REPUBLICANS WHO USUALLY ARE THE BIG TIME MONEY WINNERS FOR CAMPAIGN FUNDS AND PARTY FUNDS ARE COMPLAINING RIGHT AND LEFT. NOW THEY CLAIM OBAMA IS CHEATING, ETC. NOT SO! DEMOCRATS NOW HAVE A CAMPAIGN FUNDS MANAGER – OBAMA!!! AND THEY ARE STAYING IN BUDGET!!
Barack Obama tremendous management skills for campaign fundraising should be applauded!! Obama is setting the new management program for all future politicians. Being a community organizer has given him better understanding of how system works at ground level. Huge understanding how to do. Ability to manage and organize at this level is crucial to a campaign’s success. For Republicans to criticize community organizers mangement skills is a negative tone to workers. Praising as Obama did creates valued help. People want to help. They feel they are important. They work hard!! They become innovative. They become a movement. We are a movement!!
Barack Obama is highly intelligent Harvard Lawyer. But he is for all the people. He is positive. He knows as he has worked his way up from where we are. He has proven to be a wonderful honorable man. He listens and respects all Americans!
Obama believes in all the average people as he feels we are the true backbone of America. Republicans believe in the rich and corporations with idea wealth may trickle down to average worker. Yet Republicans still have philosophy that benefits need to be taken away from average American workers creating even further money income distance between well off and average. Republicans favor corporations to decrease salaries, take benefits away, deregulation of corporations which caused greed and financial crisis we face today. Straw that broke the camels back was Republican Grimms(adviser McCain- famous for Americans are whinnners)law deregulated more and allowed creation of the derivatives used for these questionable mortgages and the bundling of the mortgages to sell as low risk when they were actually high risk. My friend who is institutional auditor explained. This has been proven to be a failed philosophy. Result is Average Americans are having more problems as their money is less and costs are more.
Obama took his chance to believe in Americans!!!
Barack Obama has developed a new highly praised and highly regarded Campaign Fundraising Program. He has taken fundraising drive to new level. History books will be writing about the concept and this program for years to come. Obama has set all fundraising records. I am happy to be part of it.
Some people claim he is not ready??? Clinton Political Machine said he wasn’t ready. Republican Machine said he was not ready. Republicans July-August claimed sole rights to the best political campaign machine. Barack Obama has risen to each challenge, saying nothing. Obama was the successful one!!! Obama still claims no fame – he just thanks all who gave!! His philosophy is he is where he is at because of us!! Republicans have always taken different attitude towards those who gave. Sad as I am Republican.
Obama is the future!! He has proven he has the intellectual foresight for this new era. He continues to rise to all challenges.
Barack Obama supports the American People!! Wonderful record breaking fundraising!! I congratulate him and am so happy I was privileged enough to witness this remarkable Primary and Presidential Campaign.

Posted by: Sharonklim | October 23, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

ROFLMAO.
Concerned in OH repeats what he read on NRO and claims it as his own.
I actually have a credit card processing via the internet.
I can forget the middle initial. I can add a company name. I have spelled people’s names wrong.
But if I get the address wrong (street or zip code) the system tends to reject those sales.

Posted by: Ryan C (the real one) | October 23, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

“Is the Obama campaign still refusing to disclose the COST, source, and country of origin of those suits”
What a shock…Belle Starr is lying.
See below:
“When Sen. Obama steps onto the stage in Denver on Thursday night to accept the Democratic nomination for president, he plans to wear a classic two-button, navy, merino wool and cashmere suit from Chicago-based Hartmarx Corp., the company said. The largest suitmaker in the U.S. has sold suits to Obama over the years and, at the presidential hopeful’s request, sent two tailors to his Kenwood home earlier this month to custom-make a suit for the historic speech
The company’s highest-end Hickey Freeman suit brand is made in Rochester, N.Y., but Obama opted for the Hart Schaffner Marx label made in Des Plaines at a union shop. The team made the suit in four days.
For those who scoff that pleats are out of fashion, let the record show that Obama’s pants were indeed pleated, with an inch-and-a-quarter cuff. (He has the height to carry them off, OK? And a 33-inch waist.) The suit would retail at a store such as Nordstrom for $1,500.”

Posted by: Ryan C (the real one) | October 23, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Jake….I know you keep a list of Biden gaffes…..but I hope you covered his BIGGEST, by reminding Americans about the doubt we have in Obama to handle any crisis, let alone International. There would be less chance of effing with John McCain WHO KNOWS THE SYSTEM, KNOWS FOREIGN AFFAIRS!
Where is your headline with the Biden gaffe? It’s a bigger point McCain has to remind Americans of than even Joe the Plumber socialism poster boy.

Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | October 23, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Obama’s program ignores the nation’s skyrocketing federal deficit. In hard economic times there is a tendency to overcompensate and throw money after problems. Obama’s plan, like GOP candidate John McCain’s, could make an already troubling budget deficit worse.
Obama has a lot of expensive promises. His proposals don’t have offsetting cost reductions or increased taxes for pay for this. You cannot offset the whole thing by saying you will roll back the tax cuts for the rich.
So, if neither man is being up front with us about what really needs to happen to fix things… what is left: principles, character, honor, experience. McCain has it, Obama doesn’t. Obama is buying the election on one side of the fence and giving 832k to ACORN, while preaching on the other side of the fence that he represents ‘change’. The definition of “change” is becoming more and more fuzzy with Obama each day.

Posted by: msa123 | October 23, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Drown baby drown. McCain is drowning in MY small donations to Obama which I give every month. They have added up to about $800 so far. I now have the same power as the TV networks who have thought of themselves as king makers,..reporting selectively for twenty months to keep the fight going and their ratings high. I get my news from hundreds of state newspapers who’s journalists are not slaves of the 24 hour news cycle.
Its time we took back America from large corporations of all types who have transferred their debts to the middle-class, benefitting from tax loopholes while shipping our jobs overseas.

Posted by: Young Atheart | October 23, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Has anyone wondered how and why Obama has so many people at his rallies? Don’t any of these people have to work? It might be intersting to see if Acorn is busing them in to fill the arena.

Posted by: conf1689 | October 23, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

This is second post. Campaign Law does not require reporting of smaller than $200. Neither side has reported in past. Each side will have some problems as this is done online. Still you must give credit card number, name, address, employer, age, check box if you are allowed to give under their question form on Obama’s site, etc. If a person lied and this is brought forward anyone who committed fraud will probably be prosecuted and may serve prison time. I see Barack Obama has done all he could to prevent any problems.
Please be wise to evaluate why Republicans are now asking why??? Why Republicans provided lists when they haven’t in past and is not required by law. Why do they want names of all their people?? Do they even have a right?? Is it that they want to harrass us??
Is this same reason why they claimed voter fraud when no voter fraud existed?? No one has voted yet. No voter fraud can be committed until votes placed. Election day is Nov 4th. Only voter registration fraud occurred by the workers committing fraud against their employer. Seems ACORN is group being hit. Past legal investigation 2004 proved ACORN innocent. No voter fraud occurred. Republican suits were bogus claims for winning an election.
2008 Voters have been illegally been removed from voter registration lists. This is illegal!! This is fraud and is voter suppression. Investigations ongoing. Why and who did?? We shall see?? What will happen?? Computer voting machines are a problem as they can be altered quite easily and most have no paper trail. Many do not show if information technically changed. 2008 some machines were programmed to change Democrat votes to Republican candidate automatically.
Republican Virginia Voter Registration Election Office attempting to suppress voters by warning college student they can not vote or they could lose college scholarships, rights for tuition, etc. Caught and major problems!!
Michigan Republicans attempting/ed to use foreclosed homes as list to keep voters from being eligible to vote. Alerts all over news and continuing at present. Other states being used by Republicans also.
Republicans are filing lawsuits all over country using ACORN as their hit group claiming voter fraud. Republicans did this in 2004 too. No fraud legally ever found. Voter registration fraud never developed into voter fraud as Donald Duck never actually voted. State laws say person who votes must provide ID. Who can claim they are Donald Duck?? Same tactic was used in 2004. No voter fraud.
Results of past tell experts actual voter fraud is really rare. Experts say voter suppression attempts are rampant.
California chair/owner of a national group/firm hired by John McCain and National Republican Party Group arrested for changing people’s party affiliation and possible voter registration fraud.
Republicans have a long history of voter suppression tactics they employ. That is why Barack Obama requested special prosecutor to investigate all complaints and lodged complaint. This attorney is one who is investigating present Republican Administration for abuse of power.
I want both parties to comply by law. No voter suppression. Obama had defended ACORN alongside other groups too when he got voter registration into Department of Motor Vehicles. This was good law in Illinois. He also helped talk/train couple of times. He did give ACORN funds during primary for get out the vote canvassing. No funds given during Presidential race. That is his only connection and is ridiculous!!

Posted by: Sharonklim | October 23, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

The biggest dishonesty is GOP/McCain/Palin’s hinting Obama is a terrorist. They know it is not true. If they really thought so they would order an an investigation, take it to the attorney general , etc. They don’t believe it and are cynically using the fear for political gain.

Posted by: atd | October 23, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

I use ICVerify.
Our business is limited to North America with 95% being purchases in the US.
Like I said, the system tends to reject when the address does not match up but is more forgiving for mistakes in the name.

Posted by: Ryan C (the real one) | October 23, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Unemployment will be off the charts if Obama wins….the taxes on small business will mean lay offs in a way that will cripple this country.
NEVER OBAMA!!

Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | October 23, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

McCain Drowning in Obama’s Money
lol. Well Swim Baby, Swim!! daggonit
ridiculous.
Obama /Biden 2008. T-9 until all this is over !

Posted by: voter in PA | October 23, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

On November 4th, 2008 , I sincerely hope that all of you who have waged unsubstantiated character attacks on Senator Obama, spread lies, fear and war mongering, preached divisiveness, just sit back, relax, and enjoy watching our next President Barack Hussein (yes, we love the name) Obama accept his win. And when you do, I also hope you take a moment to understand why you have so much hate in your hearts.
cheers ;)

Posted by: voter in PA | October 23, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

This F, Obama is showing you who he is when he lies to McCain’s face and says he’ll abide by public financing for his campaign. LIAR….google Obama’s lies and you will get a list so long it takes days to read it. Foreign money coming in (a couple of brothers in Pakistan donated $28,000 each)….to Bozo’s campaign and we need full disclosure to see conflict of interest.
Americans rise up and take down the Flight 93, that is the Obama campaign, before it gets to the Capitol….rush the cockpit and take it down.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN

Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | October 23, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Some one needs to investigate where all the money come from before the election. It could come from the Al Qaeda who has a ton of money.

Posted by: Peter Truong | October 23, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

“the taxes on small business will mean lay offs in a way that will cripple this country.”
Small business will no longer have any capital gains taxes, a $3000 credit for new hires and get 50% tax credits if they give their employees health insurance.

Posted by: Ryan C (the actual real one) | October 23, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

The Washington Post profiles a McCain bundler, and the paper seems to imply he might have reimbursed donors. The bundler is Harry Sargeant, a defense contractor. “Some of the most prolific givers in Sargeant’s network live in modest homes in Southern California’s Inland Empire. Most had never given a political contribution before being contacted by Sargeant or his associates. Most said they have never voiced much interest in politics. And in several instances, they had never registered to vote. And yet, records show, some families have ponied up as much as $18,400 for various candidates between December and March.
Both Sargeant and the donors were vague when asked to explain how Sargeant persuaded them to give away so much money. ‘I have a lot of Arab business partners. I do a lot of business in the Middle East. I’ve got a lot of friends,’ Sargeant said in a telephone interview yesterday. ‘I ask my friends to support candidates that I think are worthy of supporting. They usually come through for me.’ Sargeant’s business relationships, and the work they perform together, occur away from the public eye. His firm, International Oil Trading Co. (IOTC), holds several lucrative contracts with the Defense Department to carry fuel to the U.S. military in Iraq.”

Posted by: Ryan C (the actual real one) | October 23, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

A Florida billionaire and top fund-raiser for John McCain has been accused of “a reprehensible form of war profiteering” by the chairman of a Congressional investigative committee.
Rep. Henry Waxman, head of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, contends a company co-owned by Harry Sargeant III overcharged the Pentagon over $180 million to deliver fuel to U.S. military bases in Iraq.

Posted by: Ryan C (the actual real one) | October 23, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

voter in PA: So you can’t wait until its over. Well, Obama better get trible security for himself because if not it will be over Are you aware of the fact that three men wanted to shoot him in the last several months. One across from his home in Hyde Park. Right now he is not the president. And Al Qaeda does not like Obama. You better keep up with the news. Al Qaeda likes McCain. Hamas will talk to Obama because he knows someone in that organization who had dinner at his house years ago. We don’t want another terrorist attack with Obama elected as president or a riot.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 23, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Here’s an example of “democratic” financial responsibility:
WHO screwed up Social Security??
When Social Security began the “democrats” SAID:
Participation would be VOLUNTARY.
The contributions would be TAX-DEDUCTIBLE.
The funds wouldn’t be used for anything ELSE, and
interest would ADD to the account.
The payouts would NEVER BE TAXED.
LBJ & demo majorities in the House and Senate put the
funds in the General Fund so they could use it for
their pet projects (PORK), no interest adds to the
fund now!
CARTER & demo majorities in the House and Senate
gave Social Security to immigrants who had never
PAID IN!
CLINTON & demo majorities in the House and Senate
made the CONTRIBUTIONS taxable, AND made the
PAYOUTS taxable! (Al Gore cast the deciding vote on
the payouts!)
OBAMA wants to GIVE Social Security to the 11 million
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS that are here, ALONG WITH
Medicare! (Think more or them will come then to get
in on THAT?) AND, with demo majorities in the House
and Senate, he’ll SUCCEED!
AND, after all THAT, the “democrats” have the GALL to
blame Republicans for the mess Social Security is in!

Posted by: lightnin | October 23, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Jennifer: You are right. And I listen to a woman on Fox yesterday, republican, forget her name but was she telling Chris Matthews from MSNBC which way to go in no uncertain words. I am so glad that someone told him off. He was very biased that’s why MSNBC booted him from early time to later time. I would love to hear that again. He didn’t know what to say. And the people that were agreeing with Ayers, taking a vote, were mainly professor’s not the public. Obama won that senate seat by crooked voting and playing dirty pool to the woman getting signatures to run against him. Her name is Alice J. Palmer. This was played on TV months ago. He took her to court claiming fake signatures. Now, how could he say that when he didn’t see her list. He is the most underhanded candidate that ever ran for office of this country. And I believe he would make deals with the enemies if he could to make it look like he is the greatest to the public.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 23, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

conf1689: Many of the people at Obama’s rallies are his supporters from offices in the state he is campaigning. Plus you might see senior’s coming out just to hear him talk because they have nothing else to do. In St. Louis where the majority is black, they came out. I don’t think he had 100,000 but maybe close to 35,000. The media has a way of adding people to a picture on the internet that doesn’t exist in reality. From what I understand Palin had 60,000 people three weeks ago in Lady Lake, FL. Now that’s a big crowd. Biden is lucky to get six thousand.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 23, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Jake the American voters are Drowning in the McCain/Bush policies to the tune of 11 trillion dollars.
As of this morning the U.S. National Debt Clock is now at $10,473.640.935.704.38. The $700 billion government bailout for Wall Street pushed this over 11 trillion dollars. So since Bush took office 8 years ago America is gone from a budget surplus to every citizen’s share of the debt at over 35,000 dollars. Trillion is now the new billion. Just a few weeks ago McCain said the economy was sound. Just going to the store where the food prices have jumped with some of the basics like cooking oil doubling in cost resonates with more voters then the McCain/Bush/Schmidt/Rove spin for the last 12 days of this election. Now Bush has left a mess that will take years to clean up. But we all know that after the 2008 election, the Republicans will start to run for the next elections in 2010 and 2012. Shouldn’t they be held accountable until this mess they left us is cleaned up? Since the 2006 elections we have seen the Republicans as a minority in both the Senate and the Congress stop major bills. After the elections the government will still be divided between both parties. Its clear that the Obama/Biden ticket can work across party lines to end the gridlock in Washington DC. We haven’t seen nothing yet when it comes to the cost of future elections. But then I just came back from the store and the food prices are a shock to me Jake. Do Americans trust Obama with one house and his wife who wears a H&M dress for $34.95 or McCain with 7 houses and Palin with a $225,000 wardrobe. We will know soon Jake.

Posted by: Cooday | October 23, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

“I don’t think he had 100,000 but maybe close to 35,000.”
Obama had 100,000 people show up in St. Louis and 75,000 show up in
He just had another 30,000 at his rally in North Carolina.
Those are police and fire estimates, not the campaigns.
“From what I understand Palin had 60,000 people three weeks ago in Lady Lake, FL.”
That was a lie by the McCain campaign disputed by fire & police officials.
Of course the funny thing is McCain doesn;t attract nearly as big a crowd as Palin and he’s the top of the ticket whereas the situation for the Democrats is the norm where the top of the ticket gets the big crowds while the VP gets smaller crowds.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Posted by: Ryan C (the actual real one) | October 23, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Cooday, its not a coincidence that the economic downturn occurred just as the Democrats were taking control of Congress. In case you forgot, the Republicans had control of Congress during the last 6 years of President Clinton’s Administration. The surplus was the result of the Republicans. The last time that the Democrats had control of the White House and both Houses of Congress they RAISED taxes. THAT is what will happen again should they gain control of the White House.

Posted by: James Danley | October 23, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Money doesn’t get you elected, voters do. Obama can be a trillionaire and still not get elected. McCain doesn’t need to spend a lot of money on Ads because he is well known throughout. He can save that money. Let Obama spend it all. Obama doesn’t have to raise taxes at all. The more you make the more tax you pay. What is it that Obama can’t figure out. I would pay lesser tax on an income of $40,000 per year than a person making $75,000 per year. Why raise taxes at all. Leave the tax as it is and don’t raise the taxes at all. Also what they need to do is have Medicare lower their deduction from 98.00 per month to 75.00 per month and make that the standard deduction to accomodate the people on social security. There is nothing wrong with the economy. People make their own mistakes by wrong decisions along with the banks and lending institutions. Foreclosures are not always the banks fault. Young people decide they want a condo or house, put 5% down, live in it for one year then decide they don’t want it give it back to the bank and rent again leaving the bank with a total loss unless they can sell the property over again.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 23, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Ryan C: Absolutely not. The media stated that Palin had about 60,000 in Lady Lake Florida and not inflated by the police or fire department. Obama never had a big crowd since Oprah rented that space to put a big show on for Obama. The media states that Palin is a drawing card for McCain and just had at least 20,000 at a previous rally. Biden is lucky to draw six thousand. Obama’s crowd is always inflated to make the public believe he is a drawing card. But when I see the crown on TV, not so. He wishes he was. Palin took the celebrity status aways from him and he’s trying to regain it back.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 23, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Ryan C: You are wrong as usual about Alice J. Palmer. She was in politics before Obama ever thought about it. She did not have fraud signatures on her list but that’s his underhanded way of getting what he wants. I don’t know why the courts allowed it. I saw the whole episode on TV. Alan Keyes than ran against him and lost. Obama is the worst of the worst candidate for office of this country.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 23, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

“She did not have fraud signatures on her list but that’s his underhanded way of getting what he wants. I don’t know why the courts allowed it”
She had fraudulent signatures because she had to rush to get herself on the ballot. She left her State Senate seat to run in a special election and was shocked when she lost. They then had to scramble to get enough signatures to get enough signatures. Obama challenged the signatures, some proved fraudulent and were rejected. In the end she did not have enough signatures to be on the ballot.

Posted by: Ryan C (the actual real one) | October 23, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Obama’s raking in the dough from all his ties overseas. That’s admirable. ; )

Posted by: Susan | October 23, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Crowd estimates for Palin were 25,000 to 30,000 in Lady Lake.
Crowd estimates for Obama in St. Louis and Kansas City were 100,000 and 75,000 respectively.

Posted by: Ryan C (the actual real one) | October 23, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Palin took the celebrity status aways from him (B O ) and he’s trying to regain it back.
Which is why he slams her so hard…. only through his supporters, of course;
He keeps himself clear of his dirty politics with his repelling teflon vest.!
(You remember “The Picture of Dorian Gray”???????)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: truth to tell | October 23, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

The New York Times reports some of that $150,000,000 donated to Obama in September came from fake donors. Maybe some of that Arab oil money being re-invested? At least in the past elections were bought by Americans who had an interest in their own country’s stability.

Posted by: Vic | October 24, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

PLEASE LOARD ! HEAR MY PRAYERS AND LET THE AMERICAN HERO, THE MAN WITH EXPERIENCE, THE RIGHT MAN, JOHN MC CAIN WIM !!! THANK YOU GOD…..AMEN

Posted by: johnjack | October 25, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

I can not believe that with only one more week left in this election, the Obama camp is still sending out emails asking for money. They are just greedy if you ask me. By the time this is over he will have gotten and almost spent close to 3/4 of a billion dollars. And they’re still asking?

Posted by: Maria | October 25, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

where did obamas money come from ???????????

Posted by: jerry | November 2, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

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