McCain Seizes on Obama’s Tax Plan Tweak

its all about giving more to upstage the other. where is the restraint that the bush administration didnt? people dont want more and more and more government. bush proved that as well as this financial crisis. and here we sit with both promising to take more to give more. stop the spending and give us real solutions

Yawn.
McCain is soooo desperate.

Perhaps thanks to Joe “born with a silver foot in his mouth” Biden the Obama campaign has learned the importance of making sure comments and such are stated accurately and clearly so as to aviod a many blunders as possible.

McCain needs to TWEAK his own plan and get positive.
While he’s at it he can take his clothes back and TWEAK palin back to Alaska

Here is a creative approach to redistribution of wealth.
Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign the read ‘Vote Obama, I need the money.’ I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a ‘Obama 08′ tie, again I laughed–just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.
OR IS IT………REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE’S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA…………..or just a fool’s political game !!

I’m still trying to figure out how John McCain can get away with emphatically saying that terrorists will not test him if he’s President. How pompous & arrogant can you be? Just who in the hell is John McCain to where terrorists would just quake in their boots at the mere sight of him? So had he been the commander-in-chief on September 11, 2001, those planes wouldn’t have crashed into those buildings in NYC? Terrorists would not have tried to fly a plane into the Pentagon(a plan thwarted by some REAL heroes might I add). Again here’s another quote that was not read in its entirety. Biden was suggesting that anyone who takes that office will face this challenge. How senile must McCain be to think these animals will run scared of him. Why would they be afraid of him? What experience does he have that would deter a terrorist? Sure he was a POW, but doesn’t that suggest that he got CAPTURED!!! Someone needs to remind the GOP presidential candidate that his name is John McCain, not Lucas McCain. Lucas McCain was a bad boy on “The Rifleman”. John McCain is not even close.

Tommy Neumann,
You copied that fake story from an earlier post by Venessa.
again, a humble & heartfelt thing would be to give them both 5 dollars and say nothing about it.
you sir are a thief

different day…different message…
erratic.

It is still socialism. If America becomes a socialist country that will be the end of America being the leader of the free world.
Dem for McCain/Palin 08

Uh Becky – McCain would not be able to play golf if he wanted to. He might be able to putt but that’s about it. Obama on the other hand just may be playing basketball every day though.

Obama is a fraud. It will be proven in time. His followers are foolish little sheep who thinks their master can do no wrong. LOL LOL

Okay, we have to guys trying to do what they can to get into the most powerful office in the world. Yeah, they are going to … mislead. I think lie might be little over the top. They will twist the facts the way they want them to look. The ones that worry me the most are the reporters and how they turn all this into a big drama party. And yes, we all feed on it. To this story’s core they are making a big deal out of a small turn of phrases. What does bother me is the experience issue. Now folks say McCain should not have picked Palin because of experience. Yes that might be true, but then you have Joe Biden poke’n that foot in his mouth all the time. Now if Joe is right about Obama being tested, then we will probably be in trouble. I think Bush screwed the pooch before 09/11. Still if we play off the comments Joe stated according to Obama, then did Obama make a good choice. So now you have to, literally, pick the lessor of 2 evils. I thought this back in 2000 with Gore and Bush.

In 0bama’s twisted world, his increase in everyone’s tax who makes more than $100K (NOT his lie of $250K) is tax-cut for the middle class.
To blind supporters, anything Zero says is from political Jesus.

How was Obama, a Illionis state legislator not making much money afford to buy a $1,160,000.00 home? How can he manage to keep his girlfriends? Are the democrats campaign headquaters paying for Obama’s wife being locked away in a Waldorf Astoria Hotel suite ($1000 + a day). Isn’t that illegal? Does Obama still use cocaine and marijunna? Who pays for it. Who scores for it? Questions, questions, questions. But not as stupid as the dimmocrats questions about Sarah Palin. Caio! wwterry

The Wall Street Journal
Obama’s Tax Plan Is Really a Welfare Plan
Barack Obama’s tax plan is the opposite of supply-side economics. He proposes to raise marginal rates for just about every federal tax. He also proposes a raft of tax credits that taxpayers can receive if they engage in various government-specified activities.
Moreover, the tax credits would mostly go to those who pay little or nothing in federal income taxes. His trick is to make the tax credits “refundable.” Thus, if the tax credit is for $1,000, but the taxpayer would otherwise only pay $200 in taxes, the government would write a check to the taxpayer for $800. If the taxpayer pays nothing in federal income taxes, the government would pay him the whole $1,000.
Such credits are not tax cuts. Indeed, they should be called The New Tax Welfare. In effect, Mr. Obama is proposing to create or expand a slew of government spending programs that are disguised as tax credits. The spending on these programs is then subtracted from the total tax burden, in order to make the claim that his tax plan is a net tax cut overall.
On the tax side of the ledger, the details released by his campaign last week confirm what a President Obama has in mind for our most productive citizens. The top individual income tax rate, for example, would be increased by 13%, to 39.6%; the next-highest rate would be raised to 36%. The top rates on capital gains and dividends would rise by a third, to 20%
The Social Security payroll tax would be raised between 16% to 32% for families making over $250,000 a year. This means that the real returns these people get from their lifetime payments into the retirement program will be driven below 0%, according to my own previous research, which was published by the Cato Institute and elsewhere.
Mr. Obama also wants a permanent federal estate tax, with a top rate of 45%; his health-insurance plan includes a new payroll tax on employers; and he also contemplates several increases in the corporate income tax, including a new so-called windfall profits tax on oil companies.
Then there is the spending side of the ledger. Mr. Obama proposes a fully refundable Making Work Pay Tax Credit, which would have the government pay out $500 to each worker and $1,000 to couples — reminiscent of George McGovern’s 1972 election proposal for the government to send a $1,000 check to everyone.
His American Opportunity Tax Credit would provide a $4,000, fully refundable tax credit for college tuition expenses. His Mortgage Interest Tax Credit would provide a 10% credit — refundable — to offset mortgage interest payments for lower- and middle-income families. His Health Care Tax Credits, which the campaign says “will ensure that health insurance is available and affordable for all families,” include “a new refundable 50 percent health tax credit on employee premiums paid by employers.”
Currently existing tax credits would also become spending programs in the Obama tax program. The Savers Credit would be made fully refundable, and would be expanded, according to the campaign, “to match 50% of the first $1,000 of savings for families that earn under $75,000.” The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit would be made refundable and expanded to allow “low-income families to receive up to a 50 percent credit on the first $6,000 of child care expenses.”
The Earned Income Tax Credit is already refundable. Mr. Obama would expand it to “increase the number of working parents eligible for EITC benefits, increase the benefits available to noncustodial parents who fulfill their child support obligations, increase benefits for families with three or more children, and reduce the EITC marriage penalty, which hurts low-income families.” In short, welfare spending is to be increased by paying more money out to low-income income tax filers.
The latest Congressional Budget Office data shows the bottom 40% of income earners already pays no income taxes. Indeed, they receive a net payment from the federal income tax system — meaning from the taxpayers — equal to 3.8% of all federal income taxes, because of the refundable tax credits under current law. The middle 20% of income earners, the true middle class, pays 4.4% of federal income taxes.
Overall, the bottom 60% of income earners pay less than 1% of federal income taxes on net. When “tax credits” primarily go to this group in the form of checks from the government (rather than a reduction in their tax burden) it is simply an abuse of the language to call the spending a tax cut.
Consequently, to say, as the campaign does say, that the candidate’s tax plan is a tax cut on net — and that it would limit taxes to 18.2% of GDP — is grossly misleading. The Obama tax plan would sharply increase real taxes. It also would come nowhere near to paying for the massive increases in federal spending he has proposed, including the spending that is disguised in the form of refundable tax credits.
The Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121910303529751345.html?mod=most_emailed_day

” Does McCain think his voters are that stupid? ”
That was a rhetorical question, right?
Dear John,
You might want to quit “seizing” on things. At your age, I’d be worried it might bring on a seizure.
Sincerely,
Concerned Republican
(who unfortunately had to vote for a Democrat this time around)

Had John McCain been paying attention, he might have noticed this change earlier, like in the first debate between McCain and Obama.
Obama clearly said at that time, quite a few weeks ago, that his plan provides for tax cuts to 95 percent of working Americans.
So whenever it was changed, the change happened sometime before that.
Sorry, McCain, but you were asleep at the switch again.

What does it matter when Obama clarified it? The bottom line is that his tax plan – other socioeconomic plans are Socialism/Communism/Marxism – with Obama it id hard where the heck he draws the line. His association with Ayers is an other example that the man does NOT know where to “draw the line”

that’s why we need Obama. He sees where something needs to be changed and does it. He doesn’t just call the other person dispicable things. C’mon McCain get on the issues, win on your own merits if you have any, you don’t tear the other guy down to make yourself seem worthy. It disgusts me to no end to hear such drivel from the Republicans, you used to be known as honorable,now you can’t even get your old friends to endorse you.

So, adjusting a plan based on more current information is considered, “doing anything for a vote.” Whereas, staying in the same path for years at a time, not wavering course, despite obvious failure is considered, “good leadership.”

Well, if I was Obama I’d be desperate too, what with my double-digit lead in the polls.

You mean that when Obama said he was giving 95% of Americans (100% – 5% who earn over $250,000) a tax break, he really didn’t mean it? That was just his way of making it sound more attractive? So once he got caught up in his own words because 40% of the 95% don’t pay taxes, he is now using different words. What he should have been saying from the beginning is that he was going to give a tax break to 55% of the country. I guess that didn’t sound as enticing to his supporters.

Does John McCains tax cut for Corporations include those that ship
jobs overseas? It should stipulate that
the corporation has to operate in the
US and employ US workers.

updated 2:59 p.m. ET, Sun., Oct. 19, 2008
WASHINGTON – Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.
In the cross hairs of the campaign carried out by DCI of Washington were Republican senators and a regulatory overhaul bill sponsored by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. DCI’s chief executive is Doug Goodyear, whom John McCain’s campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September.
Freddie Mac’s payments to DCI began shortly after the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee sent Hagel’s bill to the then GOP-run Senate on July 28, 2005. All GOP members of the committee supported it; all Democrats opposed it.

When I make 250k a year I will take my 4% tax increase of Obama’s sooner than McCain’s plan to tax my heathcare as income!

When I make 250k a year I will take my 4% tax increase of Obama’s sooner than McCain’s plan to tax my heathcare as income!

The political radar shows only what the liberal MSM wants to be seen. The media is turning its back on many of Obama and his leftist illuminati activities while it picks apart McCain and Palin’s every move.

McCain whines: “Obama will say anything to win.” Right! Now, that’s funny. Let’s see, from the McCain camp Sentor Obama has endured the following: “He’s elistist!” “He’s not a citizen.” “He pals around with terrorist!” “He’s anti-American.” “He’s playing the race card.” “He’s a socialist.” …and more. I would say Senator McCain: “Me thinks thou doest protest to much!”

It”s stupid to think that jealousy is behind this story. The “Hockey” mom, so-called working-class, Sarah Palin apparently needs at least a hundred thousand dollars to “redo” her image. Where is the modesty? how can we relate to this person who says that knows Joe sixpack. Most of us would spend our hard-earned money on our families and not on our image. looks, and clothing. Palin already is demonstrating her transformation as an “elite”

SEN. BARACK OBAMA, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: “What he is confusing is the fact that even if you don’t pay income tax — there are a lot of people who don’t pay income tax — you are still paying a whole lot of other taxes.” Those of you who say Obama hasn’t changed what he SAYS (whether his plan has changed or not) are just not listening or have drank too much kool-aid. He is all over the place this week talking about payroll taxes, property taxes, and everything else to try and cover the fact that he is making no sense when he says 95% of Americans which he has been saying for months. If you really think that the word “working” makes a different, don’t you know that of the 5% who he is going to increase taxes on, a lot of those people don’t “work” and just live on income from investments or inheritance, etc. Why don’t you really analyze what you think you’re hearing?????

I wonder why McCain decided to support the Bush tax cuts?

Funny, I’ve been thinking the same thing about you John, for several months. Maybe it’s your erratic behavior and trying to be on ALL sides of any issue that leads me to believe that YOUR the one that “says anything”.

We should read the article recently published at The Financial Times (Clive Crook): McCain is no salesman on tax proposals – “How is it, for example, that Mr McCain has been so thoroughly outmanoeuvred on tax policy?
Both candidates have offered complex tax proposals. Proliferating alternative baselines (with or without the extension of the Bush tax cuts, with or without a “patch” for the alternative minimum tax, and so forth) deepen the confusion. Unable to fathom the details, voters are left to weigh the competing slogans. Mr Obama promises to cut taxes for 95 per cent of working families. Mr McCain says the rich need a tax cut, too.
Here is a fact you might not have noticed. It certainly seems to have slipped by most Americans. The typical US household would get a bigger tax cut under Mr McCain’s proposals than under Mr Obama’s.
Broadly speaking, Mr McCain proposes to leave the Bush tax cuts in place. Mr Obama proposes a big increase in taxes on people earning more than $250,000 (€187,000, £145,000) a year, in order to cut taxes and increase subsidies at the bottom; for the middle, he too would mostly keep the Bush tax code. Middle-income households do come out slightly ahead under the Obama plan – but only if you leave out the effect of Mr McCain’s healthcare proposal. The question is, why would you do that?
Mr McCain wants to abolish the tax-break for employer-provided healthcare and replace it with a refundable $5,000 credit. Mr Obama says that a family health plan might cost $12,000 a year – leaving families who buy their own policy $7,000 worse off. This is incorrect.
“Suppose a family currently has a $12,000 policy provided by an employer. Under the McCain proposal, instead of attracting relief as at present, this benefit would be taxed as ordinary employment income – but the extra tax paid would be more than offset by the new $5,000 credit. In the first analysis, nothing changes so far as employers are concerned: all the action is on the employee’s pay cheque. The policy delivers a net tax cut to middle-income households and is enough TO MAKE THE MCCAIN TAX PLAN ON AVERAGE A BETTER OVERALL DEAL FOR THEM THAN THE OBAMA PLAN.”
Interesting at the time of ELECTING WHO IS PROTECTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MORE AT THIS TIME OF ECONOMICAL CRISIS.

“Does McCain think his voters are that stupid? ”
Yes, the GOP banks on the stupidity of the public, just look at 2000 and 2004.

Campaing desperation is in full effect!

Correction (Re: my previous comment)
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So whenever it was changed, the change happened sometime before that.
Sorry, McCain, but you were asleep at the switch again.
Posted by: Paul
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So- what does it matter when Obama clarified it? The bottom line is that his tax plan – other socioeconomic plans are Socialism/Communism/Marxism – with Obama it is hard to tell where the heck he draws the line. His association with Ayers is an other example that this man does NOT know where to “draw the line”. (he left his brains at Harvard)

The only thing that would swing me back into the McCain camp is drug legalization like Independent Bob Barr has suggested.

The Repugs scream “Marxist, Terrorist, Socialist, Tax-ist, Foreigner, Liar!”
Its just as Hitler once said, keep repeating the lies until they believe them. Well, you “my so called Hillary supporters or former Dems turned Repugs” should then be touted as having connections with terrorists since: McCain/Palin are following Hitler’s strategy not to mention they want to hijack the US with their ignorance and arrogance, Al Qaeda endorsed McCain, and McCain’s cabinet transition chief has recently lobbied for S. Hussein (look it up for yourselves on google…William Timmons). Oh what are you all to do after Obama wins and puts this country back on track? Will you all have your desperate, racist, red neck, venomous rallies that are posted all over the internet (McCAin/Palin rallies)? You all could move to Zimbabwe perhaps and help Mugabe dictate the poor over there since he seems to enjoy being a dictator and seeing millions of poor people starve. Or maybe you all could go and live with Sean Hannity.

Obama’s Arrogance is Amazing. The democratic party is spending $2million to celebrate his victory week and a half before the election. I guess democrats know ACORN GUARANTEES OBAMA VICTORY.

I love McCain’s “grasp” of the economy. He thinks I’d be upset if I had to pay more taxes if I made more than $250,000 per year? Bring it ON! I’d love to make that kind of money…….The amount of money that was spent on Palin’s wardrobe, $150,000, is more than an average American family spends in 80 Years! Yes, 80 years! Can we all say “elitist”?

Corporations don’t get welfare. They do pay taxes. Why raise their taxes? All they will do in order to maintain their profit margins is raise prices on consumer goods which then we all have to pay, poor and rich alike. If Obama is so worried about the poor and working class, he should leave corporate taxes alone. He just knows how stupid some people are, and is buying there votes buy offering to play Robin Hood. In the end, we will just pay more for goods and services. Wake up!

Frankly, I think Obama’s original plan was genius. I fall into the 2% who “do not work” and yet I have a mortgage and other deductions that I can’t claim. I raise two kids with my child support, go to nursing school, and get alimony which is intended to essentially sell my ex-husband his business month by month for the next five years. (oh, he is way behind but business isn’t great and we are working it out together)
If McCain had gotten up and said that single mothers like me shouldn’t get a refund for our mortgage interest because we “do not work,” the country would have been up in arms! Who says motherhood isn’t work?

ummmm… ‘will it end’ – the regulations to stop this financial debacle were removed – courtesy of McCain and the Republican “give me less government’ group. Try to keep up.

Rockychance, don’t you realize that your hero Bush has already signed us into socialism?? Or don’t you keep up on current events? I can tell Natasha doesn’t!

McCain is disgusting, he will say anything to win. What a disgusting representative of a presidential candidate. That is why he is losing, and already lost.

You have to be kidding me right? McCain accusing Obama of saying anything to get elected? First of all, what politican doesn’t but McCain forgets along with his campaign and the media that HE, Sarah Palin and their campaign was CALLED OUT for the out-and-out lies on the campaign trail and in their T.V. ads 6 weeks ago. That was the beginning of their fall in the polls. Most have forgotten that because of the bailout. He is the pot calling the kettle black.
McCain dismissed the immigration reform bill he co-sponsored because voters chimed their disapproval of it. He did so during a republican debate in January. He would not answer the late Tim Russert’s question on if he still supports “his” bill and he just kept saying “we will build a fence first”.

From McInsane’s own lips ” I voted with the President (President Bush) 90% of the time, more than many other republicans”. Now he said it and he meant it. That of course when he was courting the base for support of him running to represent the Republican Party. Now he pretends he is not one of them. Moose manuer

Portlarge – Americans have no problem identifying who the patriots are. Just look at the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan; about 75% of them are voting for Senator John McCain. Yes, they understand what the word “patriot” means. The extreme left wing liberals are very upset that the word “socialism” is coming out in this campaign. That’s what happens when Senator Obama talks about redistributing the wealth of hard working Americans. Left-wingers want to turn this into a Republican versus Democrat race. Unfortunately, when it comes to ANY politician trying to dip into Americans’ wallets to “Spread the Wealth”, Americans see that politician as a “leech” and it doesn’t matter what Party they belong too. Sorry, but that’s the way it is.

VB | Oct 23, 2008 3:50:36 PM: So you want your money and you really don’t care where it comes from? If he takes it from somebody who has earned it through hard work they should be penalized? You may be in the same situation some day and do you want your hard earned money to go to others? Not saying you don’t need it or you refuse to work but face it there are people who want hand outs instead of a help up! You should get help but not at the expense of those who already pay payroll taxes in the 33% and 35% tax bracket. My wife and I earn 60,000 a year and it is tight but I get buy and I don’t think it is right to have money given to me at the expense of others. That is Socialism and not what our founding fathers ever intended. Good luck in your Studies! Nursing is Gods work and it takes special people to do it well.

McCain is the one who will say or do anything to win. Despite supporting Bush 90% of the time — including the major war and economic policies — suddenly Bush is the bad guy for McCain. One day McCain says the economy is strong, the next day he’s swooping into Washington to save it. But worst of all, McCain has gone full speed into the disgusting smear and scare tactics that Bush and Rove used against him in the 2000 primaries, when they spread rumors that he had a black child. Now the Republicans are using scare tactics to make people think Obama is Muslim, a terrorist sympathizer, or a socialist. John McCain’s campaign — and especially Palin — are promoting these smears. I once admired McCain but now he has lost all dignity and respect in my eyes.

ACORN/Biden 08′

A huge stage is being constructed in Chicago’s Grant Park, where Obama hopes to declare victory . The Chicago Sun-Times reports the price tag of the fanfare has been pegged at $2 million, to be picked up by the Obama campaign. Mayor Richard Daley reportedly suggested Obama use a cheaper venue, but was turned down. Wonder how much he’ll spend on his outfit?

By the way $1200 for cell phone for the year..that’s part of the problem..do you have a big Cable bill also? Everyone has so much…wait and see when this recession becomes a Depression and you can’t even afford a basic phone!

McCain saying Obama will say anything to win = pot calling the kettle black.
I think it’s fairly obvious that the facts rarely align perfectly with either candidate’s assertions. They both are doing everything they can to win.

Let’s see all of the people Obama has had to denounce or distance himself from that he used to be very “freindly” with.
William Ayers
Tony Rezko
jeremiah wright
Father Pfleger
Louie Farakhan
his grandma
I was waiting for him to distance himself from michelle after her awsome comments but apparently barry is afraid to upset michelle

Everybody on this thread is already decided who they are voting for…I too will be voting for Obama/Biden Nov 4th !
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Don’t get cocky. PLEASE get out and vote. We can win this. Obama ’08. Yes we can!

Mike — As an intelligence specialist who has accurately identified in advance secret Russian programs and intentions during the Cold War, I wish to put on the record the following: Soviet “leader” Vladimir Putin and those Middle East terrorist who wish to destroy the United States WILL NOT RESPECT SENATOR OBAMA AND THEY WILL RESPECT AND FEAR SENATOR McCAIN. Now, you can vote for who you wish for your own reasons, but at least incorporate the above into your “analysis”. I am watching this ABC Blog section to make sure that Obama supporters no longer throw out “garbage”. Sorry but that is the way it is.

Emma, and anyone else concerned about losing America if Obama is pres:
I’ve got news for you. We are losing America under Bush, and will continue to do so under McCain. Bush is moving the country towards a fascist state. Is that the country you want? We’ve already lost rights, Bush has been acting like a Maverick dictator at times, and we’ve all just been watching it go slowly down the tubes.
McCain distracts you by yelling “Socialist!” and “Welfare!” (all, mind you, after he seized in his incredible Gotcha Journalism way upon a phrase Barack said, taking it out of context of the 5 minute conversation of which it was a part.
Fine. Be distracted by McCain. But the last laugh will be on you.
If you want to retain America, and get back to democracy as it was set up by our Founding Forefathers, vote for Barack Obama. Barack is FOR America, in the best sense of the word.

Barry Goldwater’s granddaughter:
“Being Barry Goldwater’s granddaughter and living in Arizona, one would assume that I would be voting for our state’s senator, John McCain. Myself, along with my siblings and a few cousins, will not be supporting the Republican presidential candidates this year. We believe strongly in what our grandfather stood for: honesty, integrity, and personal freedom, free from political maneuvering and fear tactics. I learned a lot about my grandfather while producing the documentary, Mr. Conservative Goldwater on Goldwater. Our generation of Goldwaters expects government to provide for constitutional protections. We reject the constant intrusion into our personal lives, along with other crucial policy issues of the McCain/Palin ticket.
My grandfather (Paka) would never suggest denying a woman’s right to choose. My grandmother co-founded Planned Parenthood in Arizona in the 1930′s, a cause my grandfather supported. I think he would feel that love and respect for ones privacy is what matters most and not the intolerance and poor judgment displayed by McCain over the years.
…The Republican brand has been tarnished in a shameless effort to gain votes and appeal to the lowest emotion, fear. Nothing about McCain, except for maybe a uniform, compares to the same ideology of what Goldwater stood for as a politician. The McCain/Palin plan is to appear diverse and inclusive, using women and minorities to push an agenda that makes us all financially vulnerable, fearful, and less safe.
Nothing about the Republican ticket offers the hope America needs to regain it’s standing in the world, that’s why we’re going to support Barack Obama. I think that Obama has shown his ability and integrity. After the last eight years, there’s a lot of clean up do. Roll up your sleeves, Senators Obama and Biden, and we Goldwaters will roll ours up with you.”

McCain once again proves that he is the one who will say anything to get elected. If he were to be elected,we would be treated to the same keystone cops mindset he has put into his campaign. I’m sorry,having been a pow does not qualify one for the presidency and his stump speeches are a mish mash of jibberish and half truths.Sen. Obama is the man for this time in our history.

Okay McCain…..great!!! He changed something…..Iron sharpens Iron……Both of you guys, figuratively, are as Iron……Sharpen each other and keep on going…….
PS: now that you got the nomination, McCain, why not flip flop back to not supporting the Bush tax cuts that once offended your conscious.

http://trusttobepresident.com/
Publish this – simple and truthful.

I guess everybody that has already made up their mind to vote for Obama don’t mind paying extra taxes. Trust me, he will raise taxes to give your hard earned money to people that won’t get off their a$$ and do an honest days work.

I dont think the rep. could have picked a worse VP, It amazes me with how little credit the right gives the american people. Palin??? Really???

Why are you worried about 150K for cloths when they are going to be auctioned off and they will make a hell of a lot more money off the auction. Also isn’t what Palin did spending 150k doing what Obama wants and spreading the wealth around?
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The offer to donate the clothes only came after the purchase became public.
At the RNC Convention, Cindy McCAIN wore a $7000 “dress”, which looked more like a bright yellow school kids raincoat.
I thought, what the heck, if she can afford to pay $7000 to look like hell then it’s her business. Now, I’m wondering if the dress was bought with donations.

rep’s . . .the thorn in americas side.

McCain can’t be serious. McCain will call people “terrorists” claim that Obama and his family don’t love their country, stoke the flames of racism and xenophobia, lie, cheat, intimidate and pander to become elected. He must be talking about himself.
I voted for McCain in his senate bids and I have to say I hope this man leaves Washington and goes back to AZ. He has zero interest in serving the American people. SHAME ON YOU MCCAIN!

I dont think the rep. could have picked a worse VP, It amazes me with how little credit the right gives the american people. Palin??? Really???
Posted by: oh 4 ob | Oct 23, 2008 4:15:16 PM
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Palin = NO REFORM

Tax-Hungry Liberals Want YOUR 401k,
you really have nothing better to do than write a 4 page blog. All you have to do is accept the fact that mccain and palin might be the worst ticket ever, and then, and only then will you be able to see just how arrogant the right is. . . . Try something for me, be a liberal, have your own thoughts!

morningcalm…i do disagree with you that people get way out of line on these blogs and should really remain civil. bottom line though is that your 100% wrong on the law.

Breaking News 10/23/08:
MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH

Ohio Big10 Battleground Obama 53, McCain 41 Obama +12
Pennsylvania Big10 Battleground Obama 52, McCain 41 Obama +11
Michigan Big10 Battleground Obama 58, McCain 36 Obama +22
Minnesota Big10 Battleground Obama 57, McCain 38 Obama +19
Wisconsin Big10 Battleground Obama 53, McCain 40 Obama +13
Iowa Big10 Battleground Obama 52, McCain 39 Obama +13
Indiana Big10 Battleground McCain 41, Obama 51 Obama +10
Illinois Big10 Battleground Obama 61, McCain 32 Obama +29

Mr.McCain is a disgrace to MY Republican party. In fact, MY party has been hi-jacked by religious fundamentalists who believe that man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. Until the Jesus whackos are kicked out of the Republican party, I will continue to vote independent, and this election will be a vote for Obama.

McCain: We will cut spending. We need to cut spending …
Palin: I need new clothes, shoes …
McCain: How much?
Palin: Well, roughly $150,000 or more …
McCain: No problem, Granted.
McCain: We need to cut spending …
We need to cut spending …
We need to cut wasteful spending …

I’m amazed at all the fol-de-rol about nothing in the tax thing. McCain has constantly changed his plans to meet changing situations and that is the way it should be. If you find something contrary to your basic policy in a line item, you change it.

REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH = “FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITIES TO EACH ACCORDING TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS”
Obama = Karl Marx
Dear Pro-Obama Supporters who think Socialism is Cool, THOSE WHO KNOW NOTHING OF HISTORY ARE DOOMED FOR EVER TO REPEAT IT.
Get ready for 70 years of misery.

I never hear McCain say anything about what he will actually do, he just knocks Obama about everything – EVERYTHING! Absolutely the biggest downer of a human being I’ve ever had to listen too, that’s John McCain.
It’s too late to try and change my mind and many others. Thank goodness for early voting!
Obama/Biden 08!!!!!!

Imagine 2009-2013…the Democrats actually having to answer to the American people instead of blaming everyone else but themselves.
Who wants to start ordering the “Don’t Blame Me..I voted for”….bumper stickers?
How about Obama is an illegetimate President? Impeach Obama…we dont agree with him. How about 2013…end of an error?
How long till Chavez finagles a photo op with Barry and has him as his lap dog? June?
Watch how they will weasel their way out of responsibility and accountability. Just watch.

ModerateRepublican…i think bottom line is that no matter what the polls say, if McCain were to win, there is no way he will get the popular vote. I think if he wins it will be an electoral victory only. Certainly thats all you need, but the country will go nuts if that happens…or maybe I should say the country will stay nuts.

As if it’s wrong to tweak one’s plans. And McCain’s flip-flops are legion. but apparently they don’t count. 1) against Bush tax cuts, now for them. 2) against ethanol, except when campaigning in the midwest. 3) Against drilling offshore, now for it. I could go on, but you get the point…….:-(

And, McCain is ready to DESTROY US FINANCIALLY to win the election.
He risked our SECURITY be selection the MOST UNQUALIFIED PERSON FOR VP ever.

I want to make a statement about Palin. The national Guard in Alaska is the only part of that entity that is on active duty 24/7. Sarah Palin is in charge of them. She attends and has been attending top level intelligence briefings since taking that office. Her security clearance is higher than anybody, McCain or Biden forget about Obama. She knows more right now about intelligence then the other three put together. So you goof balls that keep spewing your filth and garbage, as usual have no clue. You are too busy getting drunk on the koolaide. How many of you donated to the $2,000,000.00 stage that Obama is having erected for his crowning in Chicago. You sheep may very well just get exactly what you deserve.

As long as palin can continue to be able to see Russia from her backyard, then I feel safe!!! :-)

McCain is a Master Weasel. If there is ANYONE who says and does things just to get votes it’s McCain. Remember during the spring primaries when conservatives were voting in droves for Huckabee? Conservatives had repeatedly been burned by McCain in the past, so that’s why they voted for Huckabee. “Suddenly”, McCain started spouting that he was a “true conservative”; Bush was even recruited to back McCain as a “true conservative”. So what has John McCain done lately? Now “suddenly” he is NOT a “true conservative”: he voted for the $700 Billion Bailout, and he even presented his own proposal to have taxpayers buy delinquent mortgages at “face value” (mortgage and investment firms take zero loss, while taxpayers bear all losses). Conservatives flipped-out on that one! When he needed votes in the spring, he claimed he was a “true conservative”; now when he needs votes of independents, he no longer is a “true conservative”. What John McCain says versus what he does are two different things: you can’t believe a word the man says.

Ah
Obama campaign is now spending $12.2 MILLION
a day.
His Oct 29 3 network 1/2 show is going to cost
$27 Million Dollars

Give me a break. When people WORK and they get a tax credit IT IS NOT WELFARE! So what if the lowest paying workers get a check? Has anyone tried living on minimum wage? Who deserves a break? No pun intended…The person working at McDonald’s or the CEO of Exxon? IT’S NOT WELFARE IF YOU WORK! Thank God I went and voted early for Barack! I think McCain will say anything to get elected.

The economy is the real issue, they people should compare states on some major issues.
Here are the trends are being noticed by states.
Red states – low unemployment
blue states – high unemployment
red states – lower foreclosure rates
blue states – higher foreclosure rates.
red states – higher high performances
blue states – lower student performances
red states – business are growing
blue states – business are shutting down
red states – state budgets are balanced
blue states – state budgets are asking the government for help
red states – conservative management in government
blue states – liberal management in government
It does not take genius to see which type of personnel is needed to run a government that will make a society to grow.

Right on Track,
You are entitled to your own opinion. I think you read that I said, “in some jurisdiction.” Read some of the blogs that say, “stole money”, “liar”, “dope addict”, “her illegitimate child rather rather than of her daughter’s”, and other statements. These terms are accusatory, demeaning, and libelous. I am not referring to generic statements such as “elitist”, “centrist”, “far left”, “far right”, etc…..
The freedom of the speech is subject to the police power of the State. Do you know how many seemingly innocent people in my jurisdiction have been convicted for libels?
Perhaps, you should also take the CA bar examination, the most difficult bar in the entire United States.
Barrister

John McCain has always claimed that he was against torture. Yet this past spring, when a bill came before the Senate which would outlaw torture, McCain voted against it! Why? It was during the spring primaries and McCain wanted the votes of conservatives, so he changed his position. When he needs votes he will change existing positions in a heartbeat. You can’t believe a word the man says.

Ah
Obama campaign is now spending $12.2 MILLION
a day.
His Oct 29 3 network 1/2 show is going to cost
$27 Million Dollars
Posted by: Jane | Oct 23, 2008 4:30:15 PM
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And, even though living on a fixed income budget, my $25 a month will keep going to Senator Obama’s campaign, at least through the 1st of November.

No Palin
Can you back up those claims?

The republican party was a great party until roe vs. wade. From that day forward, the party has based it’s campaigns and base on abortion, and that has been followed by gay marriage and war. These 3 things have ruined the right. Americans have their own individual saviour, we dont need another one we need a president, one who can run the country not our beliefs.

What’s the problem with tweaking a plan to improve it from the original? Your first ideas are not always the best. To me it shows that a person is able to adjust and fit the situation. I don’t agree with only one way to solve problems. Myway or the Hyway attitudes are not the best way to acomplish things.

Chavez, Putin, Kim Jong, Ahmadejehad, Castro Boys and Osama Bin Laden are going to gather for a guy’s weekend in early December to celebrate having defeated the United States. Barry is soon to be their bitch and the booze and celebration will be heavy that weekend.
What happens in Tehran stays in Tehran.

“myway: or the “highway” = Bush

So interesting to hear McCain suggest that Obama will “say anything to get elected” when everything that we’ve seen and heard from him suggests that he is really talking about himself. It is like he is yelling into his own mirror and I wish he would listen.
Say anything, do anything” to get elected is McCain’s Mantra. It is either that he thinks that the public is too stupid to look beyond his proclamations or he continues to forget his own record. I guess he was a Socialist when he voted against Bush’s tax increases for the wealthy in 2000. Obama is trying to get things back to tax levels under Clinton where the regular Joe (even right wing Joe the Plummer) has a chance. The 2008 McCain incarnation seems to have lost his soul of decency.

So Obama is outspending McCain. Since his money comes from small donars, I guess that means a LOT of people in America would rather hear his message than McCain or Palin. McCain had to go for Federal campaign funding, because he didn’t have enough supporters willing to put up a few dollars for his campaign. That’s what happens when you run a negative campaign instead of an issues oriented campaign.

Posted by: James | Oct 23, 2008 4:31:36 PM
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James, you can’t show any proof other then in your imagination for your red state, blue state farce. Making up statistics is sick.
In any event i personally belive that we are all the “United” States.

good job Jane, way to remember something!

Joe Biden is right, If elected, Obama will have to deal with the likes of Ahmedinejad, Putin, Shavez, etc. The biggest accomplishment Obama has on his resume is running an effective campaign for 18 months. May be community organizer is a big job in Chicago, but I doubt that it qualifies him to deal with the three amigos mentioned above. Yes many countries indorsed Obama (Syria, Iran, etc ) You should ask yourself why?!

Herb Gray
I don’t give my $ to either campaign. My time and money go to animals.
Try that sometime.
Posted by: Jane | Oct 23, 2008 4:36:54 PM
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Personally I prefer to give my money to human children who are starving.

John McCain said that his top priority when selecting a running mate would be to choose someone who was qualified to be President on “Day One”. So who did he choose? Sarah Palin! Less than two years ago she was the mayor of Tiny Town. The extent of her education is an undergraduate degree in journalism. She has zero knowledge of constitutional law, foreign policy, financial markets, monetary policy, fiscal policy, immigration, health care, etc. etc. etc. McCain somehow would like everyone to believe that a person can go from small-town mayor to the Presidency in two years. Unbelievable!!! There were many GOP candidates light years ahead of Palin in qualifications, but McCain chose her. Why? He wanted to placate conservatives, that’s why! He went back on what he had said, that he would choose someone qualified to be President on “Day One”. McCain will say and do ANYTHING to get votes. You can’t believe a word the man says.

I would love it if i got paid. I would do it for free, anything i can do to keep the republicans from tearing our country any further apart, I will. After what bush has done, thats hard to do. . But, you never know.

top 5 states in unemployment (as of Dec. 2007) in no particular order:
Michigan (blue)
California (blue)
South Carolina (red)
Mississippi (red)
Ohio (swing)
Next 10
Oregon (blue)
Kentucky (red)
Tennessee (red)
Nevada (swing)
Wisconsin (blue)
Illinois (blue)
Missouri (swing)
Arkansas (red)
North Carolina (swing)
Maine (blue)
Of the top 15 states in recent unemployment figures, 6 are blue, 5 are red, and 4 are too close to call. Considering Obama is leading in more states than McCain, the unemployment figures show nothing at all about whether states that lean one way or the other are better at employing their workers. Nice try, but once again, pulling some thoughts out of your b*tt is no substitute for actual facts.

No Palin
Can you back up those claims?
Posted by: Jane | Oct 23, 2008 4:34:53 PM
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The claim that PALIN is a liar? Try FOX News or any other news source. She sold the plane for a loss to a broker, when she said she sold it on eBay for a profit. She said she said no th bridge when she not only said yes she accepted and spent the money, including a “road to nowhere” that was suppose to connect to the bridge. She didn’t build the bridge because the funding fell short. Then a non-partician commity found her GUILTY of abusing her power and she said “I’m so glad the report said I did not abuse my power”.
Palin is a serial LIAR

So interesting to hear McCain suggest that Obama will “say anything to get elected” when everything that we’ve seen and heard from him suggests that he is really talking about himself. It is like he is yelling into his own mirror and I wish he would listen.
“Say anything, do anything” to get elected is McCain’s Mantra. It is either that he thinks that the public is too stupid to look beyond his proclamations or he continues to forget his own record. I guess he was a Socialist when he voted against Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy in 2000. Obama is trying to get things back to tax levels under Clinton where the regular Joe (even right wing Joe the Plummer) has a chance.
The 2008 McCain incarnation seems to have lost his soul of decency. He forgets that he was once the victim of the Rovian lies and dirty politics. The problem is that he learned all the wrong lessons and is now guilty of even worse acts of public deception and dangerous incitement. There is nothing honorable or trustworthy about that.
The thing is that he has underestimated the intelligence of all but his rabid base.

PITTSBURGH — A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield was also maimed by her attacker, police said.
Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.
Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.
Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.
The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.

Over… And you honestly think that McCain and Palin are right for the country?? Really??

PITTSBURGH — A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield was also maimed by her attacker, police said.
Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.
Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.
Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.
The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.
Posted by: IT IS GETTING UGLY | Oct 23,
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What is that story supposed to tell us?? It really looks like you are the one who is getting ugly.

algwriter – “Since his money comes from small donors,” – that’s a nice theory, but the reality is, we don’t know where those small donations are coming from, so we don’t even know for a fact that they’re all American sources or if people have exceeded the allowed contribution amounts. The difference between accepting public campaign funds and going the private route is transparency. By accepting public funds, McCain made a deal with the American people to allow donations to be scrutinized by the American people (media, etc) – and he has – there hasn’t been a hint of scandal. Obama accepts only private funds and has not been so transparent, and some of the donations are considered controversial.

Jim – You actually make a very good point, though not the one you intended. If BO has 600 million of OUR money – which we gave him even when our economic problems were serious – that says a lot about who we believe will steer America in the right direction. And when he spends OUR money that WE gave him, he’ll be spending it in OUR economy, where it’ll be back in circulation. You inferred that he’s doing something wrong by spending the money to get elected,when that’s exactly what WE gave him OUR money to do. I understand you’re upset that he’s probably going to win, but trying to suggest that his financial advantage is a moral problem is silly. It’s money his supporters gave him to make sure he wins. Remember, as far as many of us lefties are concerned, you have to beat the righties by a landslide to make sure they don’t win by cheating, like they did in 2000 and 2004.

moderaterepublican
I like Sara Palin
Posted by: Jane | Oct 23, 2008 4:53:47 PM
YOU WOULD LIKE HER !!

Obama’s America: the bitch for the rest of the world. Bomb the U.S? Send in a team of consultants to talk to the perpetrators? Russia invade Ukraine? Protest it at the UN(not knowing Russia has a veto vote). Putin puts nukes in Venezuela? Obama will say Chavez needs to be understood and will invite him to the White house for a visit. North Korea slides backwards towards Nucler proliferation? Obama will shrug and blame Bush.
And the grand daddy of them all: Al Qaeda will test us next year in Iraq…ol Barry is going to cut bait and run and the hopes and dreams Iraqis have built in the last year will go up in smoke.
Who’s ready for it? Yeah Barry!!!! He’s our man…the one! What a world this will be with him? I can’t wait.

I wish someone would actually address issues that are contributing to the weakening American system. What about credit card companies that charge “loan shark” interest rates? Hasn’t this weakened our economy? What about products manufactured overseas that have caused numerous deaths in America or are inferior as well as cause terrible environmental problems? I want a pair a tennis shoes made in America. Anyone know where I can buy them? We are making overseas manufacturers, telemarkerters, directory assistants, and technical support companies rich. Anyone notice Americans need jobs to buy these products? I want to hear serious, solid solutions to the energy crisis that go beyond the petroleum industry (for whom I now work). If I get a tax break I want it to be given because I am installing solar panels or am using wind power. I do not need to make the Middle Ease, China, Japan, or any other foreign country wealthy nor do I want my life dependent on their willingness to sell my nation oil. And I certainly do not want to support terrorism.
I haven’t really heard either McCain or Obama address any of these issues in a believable manner.
And where is Obama’s birth certificate? And just which hospital in Hawaii was he born…the one his sister mentiond or the one he says? Too many unanswered questions are on the table regarding Obama’s integrity. I have seen nothing that makes me believe he is not attempting to “change” America right into the hands of Muslim extremiest.
John McCain doesn’t seem to be want to commit to saying….there’s a problem and I will attempt to solve it by whatever. I have a problem with that. However, I suppose this means he isn’t making promises he cannot keep. Who knows?
And it is no one’s business how much money Sarah Palin pays for her clothes or how many houses John McCain and his wife own. It is no one’s business how much Obama paid for his house, unless it was paid for with illegal money. Then someone needs to prove it.
I do believe we are seeing The Revelation fulfilled. I believe if anyone is not a Christian and will read Daniel and The Revelation now, they will become a believer. It might be in their best interest to do so.
AGAIN, we have another election where so many Americans will not vote for a candidate but instead will vote against a candidate. When will we ever have a true statesman running for President of the United States.

Jim – You actually make a very good point, though not the one you intended. If BO has 600 million of OUR money – which we gave him even when our economic problems were serious – that says a lot about who we believe will steer America in the right direction. And when he spends OUR money that WE gave him, he’ll be spending it in OUR economy, where it’ll be back in circulation. You inferred that he’s doing something wrong by spending the money to get elected,when that’s exactly what WE gave him OUR money to do. I understand you’re upset that he’s probably going to win, but trying to suggest that his financial advantage is a moral problem is silly. It’s money his supporters gave him to make sure he wins. Remember, as far as many of us lefties are concerned, you have to beat the righties by a landslide to make sure they don’t win by cheating, like they did in 2000 and 2004.

NO Palin, use the same scrutiny with your own candidate……

ALl of this talk about Marxism is such fear mongering> You cannot have private ownership with Marxism. And there are numerous forms of socialism in our society: Social security, property taxes to pay for schools (some pay more for the same service, police and fire and paramedics, etc etc. All Obama really wants to do is to roll back the Bush tax cuts on the top brackets to where they were under Clinton….not a big deal as the top got really rich back then too.

It is really getting ugly:
According to ThePittsburgChannel.com a 20-year old woman was robbed at ATM. Robber became mad when he saw a McCain bumper sticker in victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victor, BEFORE USING THE KNIFE TO SCRATCH THE LETTER “B” INTO HER FACE.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

Obama isn’t the one running his campaign so I’m not sure why he gets the credit on his resume. If anyone should get credit for the evolving, ever-changing Obama, I think it would be Axelrod (the one who looks a bit like Hitler).

palin’s not even smart enough to sharpen a pencil on the right end. a 3rd grader had to teach her how to do it.

Listen to all of the right wing nuts. They cant talk about how teh REpublicans have destroyed everything. They talk about the Dem majority in the Senate and never talk about the 60 sentaor rule for preventing filibusters. They dont talk about the neocons and their complete war mongering lies, they dont talk about their hypocrisy with fiscal responsibility, and they dont talk about thei giant expansion of governemnt. They do not do any of the things that they stand for. No, they talk about garbage all of the time because they have no issues. Good riddance GOP pigs. America is rapidly moving away from your irrelevant party. You can have the low class red necks voting agaisnt their own self interest. Keep your bottle of Jack and Confedertae Flag too.

If the Obama supporters don’t understand the difference between hanging around with radicals (Ayers, Rezko, Wright, Odinga, Frank, etc.), and American businessmen, presidents, etc. then there really is no hope for our country.

mccains not running his campaign. he has aides, too. for one thing, he couldn’t move around fast enough to get it all done. i dont want anyone running my country from an electric scooter. and when he gets the call the we are being attacked, he will be somewhere getting his diaper changed.

The GOP is the party of yesterday. When are they going to evolve with reality? I suspect that they will disappear. Why are so many of thier own leaving the party? (Buckley for example).
The GOP is the party of blind leadership as they never questioned Bush and told us how disloyal we were for even raising the issue. They would sell thier soul for their party of nonsense. Good riddance GOP. Time for some a**ss kicking NOv 4. Suck it up chumps.

@tommy newman- you are a disgusting human. enough said.

Susan, What was Ayers convicted of? Oh that’s right, nothing. What was Keating and Liddy convicted of? Oh that’s right: alot. Guilt by association (and a weak one) is a small argument from a small mind. I am most disappointed by real things like supporting the BS farm bill. At least McCant is against it. Try a real issue rather than race baiting etc. And why arent you talking about Sarah’s involvement in the Alaska secesion movement? Is this gotcha journalism?

Go to: http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light.html#top
Could this be true?

Susan, It is ok to hang around American businessmen who cheat and steal and cause scandals? That is ok? Great logic moron.

Marxists/Socialists/Communists for Obama
America wake up! The American Marxists/Socialists/Communists have posted this proclamation right on Barack Obama’s official website (see link below)
Marxists/Socialists/Communists for Obama
“This group is for self-proclaimed Marxists/Communists/Socialists for the election of Barack Obama to the Presidency. By no means is he a true Marxist, but under Karl Marx’s writings we are to support the party with the best interests of the mobilization of the proletariat. Though the Democratic Socialists of America or the Communist Patty of America may have more Socialististic values, it is pointless to vote for these candidates due to the fact that there is virutally no chance they will be elected on a National level. The members of this group are not Leninists, Stalinists, etc. and do not support or condone the actions of North Korea, China, Cuba or any other self-procalimed “Marxist States.” They do not in anyway represent the Marxist philosophy nor do they represent Socialism/ Communsim. We support Barack Obama because he knows what is best for the people!”
Source:
BarackObama.com
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/group/MarxistsSocialistsCommunistsforObama

GENIUSJOE46…..just wait baby….4 years later….your party will be sent to the desert where it will roam for a generation. Screw up is about to take on a new meaning. You think the REpublicans were bad. Did you investments perform well until the last 2 years(when the Democrats took over congress?) MIne did…the Bush economy was roaring from 2002-2007. Both parties share blame for the finanical mess pal. Your party has had the keys to the Congress for 2 years and all they want to do is blame Bush.
Well….they are about to play in the big game now…..and then we’ll know.

Typical Obama tactic: Throw something against the wall and see if it sticks. If he gets criticism he changes or completely flip-flops. Obama will say anything to get elected, but he will have his own agenda when he actually gets in office.
Obama is a snake oil salesman. Be careful to look at the fine print before signing on the dotted line.

sarah palins “real americans”her $150,000.00 wardrobe. flying her kids around the world on alaskan tax dollars.a real maverick, eh? i say a real lying crook. so much for reform. she should start with reform in her own office.

Every day McCain becomes a smaller and smaller man. Pretty soon he’ll be one inch tall. What a pathetic creep.
Can’t wait to see him and that nasty dimwit running mate of his get CRUSHED on election day!

Mary, how if Obama getting to Hawaii?
Comercial or private jet that his campaign is paying for?

How can these two boneheads talk about tax cuts when we have a record deficit? Where do they plan to make up the money that would otherwise be collected? Does anyone really believe that government will cut spending?

How can these two boneheads talk about tax cuts and tax credits when we have a record deficit? Where do they plan to make up the money that would otherwise be collected? Does anyone really believe that government will cut spending?

Natasha: If McCain was about America first, he certainly would not ahve picked Palin. What a bad gamble she has been.

Why are all you people so scared of Palin?
Posted by: Jane | Oct 23, 2008 5:19:37 PM
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Jane, they are not scared of her they are threatened by her and have been since she was first introduced as VP candidate. Obama had his people converge on Alaska the day after she was announced to try and dig up any dirt they could on her. When the only thing they could find was troopergate and it was really a non-issue, they decided to use the “stupid, dingy woman” tactic, like they did on Hillary.
Democrats call anyone against Obama’s positions a racist, while tearing down Palin and being completely sexist.
Democrats=hypocrites

A young Obama will be corrupted, just like any socialist or communist leaders in other countries, China, North Korea and Vietanam, as he has NOT been tested, and inexperienced. American people should know better than being fooled by mere talks, and empty promises, Obama says ANYTHING to fish for votes. Watch out, America, he has already planned a “victory” party, while we all are suffering, the unemployed, the homeless and the elderly, is it a proper “spreading the wealth” message during the national economic crisis?? Is he simply a cigarette-smoking playboy, who has never changed from his questionable past in Hawaii and Indonesia?

JIm,
The keys to Congress argument is bogus and you should know this from how the Senate works. The GOP filibusters (and so did the DEMs before). You need 60 votes in the Senate, not a simple majority. When you guys talk about this stuff, it is frustrating because you either dont know it (like Palin) or you ignore it. Both are bad.
As for my investments: I got out of the stock market years ago after the tech bubble. I am in a different position these days, but I will tell you that my original Jackson Pollacks have done quite well in this market. Have you seen what these things are doing? The stock market is for fools and is a rigged game.

Just out
IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: Day Eleven
Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2008
McCain has cut into Obama’s lead for a second day and is now just 1.1 points behind. The spread was 3.7 Wednesday and 6.0 Tuesday. The Republican is making headway with middle- and working- class voters, and has surged 10 points in two days among those earning between $30,000 and $75,000. He has also gone from an 11-point deficit to a 9-point lead among Catholics.

Let’s say for a moment that McCain is accurate, Obama changed his tax credit plan because of how the electorate didn’t like it….Does McCain mean that a president shouldn’t change his plans if the people think it should change? It’s government by the people and for the people last time I checked. Why is everyone so up in arms about poor people getting tax credits when oil companies receive billions (that’s with a B) in tax credits. Isn’t that corporate welfare?

JUST IN — Follow the news tonight. A 20-year old girl working for McCain was apparently robbed at knife-point while getting money from an ATM machine in Pennsylvania. The attacker, upon seeing a Senator McCain sticker on her bumper, returned, beat her, shouted obscenities against Senator McCain, and carved a “B” on her cheek with his knife. This is all breaking news and must be verified. Hope that ABC and the rest of the networks sort out what has happened. If it turns out to be another low-class bum hoping to leech on another hard-working American, we hope that law enforcement authorities find out who is responsible.

sarah palin DOES NOT =hilary clinton. totally different. i would call hilary a maverick. i’d palin a bumbling idiot. idiot of all idiots.

D: The right wing nuts wont answer your question about McCant buying mortgages and how it relates to socialism. remember, he was also agaisnt BUsh’s tax cut before he was for it, but that is not a flip flop. Secretly, the GOP is very bummed about McCain and are embarrassed about Palin, the idiot who can see Russia from her porch.

palin is so stupid, she’d infuriate spongebob.

Why are all you people so scared of Palin?Posted by: Jane | Oct 23, 2008 5:19:37 PM——————-I’m not afraid of Palin, just afraid of what she and McCain will do to our country, which is drive it further into the ground!! She is not ready to “lead” the country should something happen to McCain. She has been our Governor for less than 2 years and has already taken advantage of us (the travel for her family, the per diem while she stays in her own home, etc.). She says she will then she doesn’t (cooperate with the Legislative investigation, release her medical records, etc.). She is an embarassment to our state!!

Mary….you are irrlevant.

Bill, Obama has been way ahead on Afghanistan. He has proposed what they will be doing long before McCain. Also why is Warren Buffet supporting Obama? Because he is black?

hey bill want to see clueless. pull up a picture of sarah palin. she can see russia from her house, and didn’t know they were close enough to knock on her front door when some of them visited alaska.

hHow is Obama going to Hawaii. Comercial Jet, I don’t think so. Private plane I bet that cost more that
Sara Pailins clothes and can he give the jet to Charity?
Let’s see if ABC does a story on this.

jim you are stupid. just like your good buddy sarah. dont hate on me. you are the one getting mad like mcsame and throwing insults when nothing else works.

Earmarks are a small fraction of the total budget. Get some perspective. What about trimming the giant military bill that costs us nearly 1 trillion per year. What a waste. We spend more money than the entire world combined on war and the military. So much for a peaceful nation! We have over 800 foreign military bases. Time to trim the fat and I am happy that McCant said he would go after military procurement so that we dont have to get ripped off by the war profiteers…well not too much at least. That would save alot more than all of the earmarks combined.

Tommy Neumann: Redistributing the wealth? You just redistributed for some poor sap working for less than minimum wage. I would be mad too. Now, I make 6 figures and if you gave the homeless guy $10 you were going to give to me, I would probably match it and get the guy a good meal to boot. You see, I have no problem giving to the less fortunate. I look at them and say there for the grace of God go I. And I never forget for a minute, I could easliy end up beside them.

Palin is a true reformer. She will make all of our “ladies” spend crazily for their outfits, and economy will recover! Simple. If you are “the men of those ladies” you better are ready to pay!!!

Why are the Obama supporters so scared of the word “Socialism” and why are so many trying to show that we are already a socialist country? It looks as if they have never met Communists and Socialists before. Too bad they have never been in Cuba to see what happens when the government puts a ceiling on what people can earn. Too bad that they have never seen what happens when workers are discouraged from working hard because the fruits of their labor are passed on to bums who don’t want to work or have that “First Among Equals” status because they are friends with the socialist politicians who make the rules. Sorry, but that’s the way it is.

There really should be no tax cuts at all in an economy like this. After Bush 41′s recession, Clinton raised taxes on cats like me and, although I felt a pinch, it didnt really matter to be honest. But it helped spur the economy. We need to raise taxes on the people making more than $1 million ($250K is too low for me) and we need to make sure that we close alot of loopholes for Wall Street. They have been ripping us off blind.

Right on Track, Intelligent Voter meant the average family doesn’t spend $150K on CLOTHING in 80 years. $1,875 a year for clothing would be about right for this family of 4. So, yep… a $150K clothing allowance would last this family about 80 years!!!

Obama’s “tax cut” is actually a negative income tax for the 40% of Americans who already pay no income tax. It is wealth redistribution pure and simple. Take from the producers and give to the non-producers. A former Democratic congressman told one of my colleagues when my colleague was arguing with him about the propriety of raising taxes during a recession (several years ago) to which the congressman replied, “You don’t get it, do you? The more money we have, the more power we have.” That’s what this is all about.

any truth to the rumor that if Obama gets elected, his first order of business will be to issue an executive order replacing the endangered bald eagle as our national bird with the less endangered fried chicken?

TheLastVoter
Who ever suggested putting a cap on what people can earn? That would indeed be a bad idea.

you’ve said enough jim, i don’t think mccain will win either. how can you say palin has accomplished anything by governing over 8,000 people? there are more people in chicago alone. i still think she is clueless. the attitude that she and mccain both have could trigger trouble for our country. that mightier than thou attitude will make people hate america even more. these two are troublemakers and you are dilusional if you think otherwise.

Distribution of Wealth (Spread the Wealth):
Lately there is lot being said on re-distribution of wealth, particularly in the context of “Joe the fake plumber” who apparently is terrified of the idea of government taking more money from him one day and giving breaks to the people trying to make it on the lower end of the financial spectrum. Joe believes that under a democratic rule, government will step in and will start to financially penalize him for being successful.
Frankly I think people on the lower end of financial spectrum should be up in arms for the re-distribution of wealth that has been going on for the past 8 years. Government has been taking more from the middle class and have been giving breaks to the rich people on the top. This in my view is also called as re-distribution of wealth. But some how in this topsy turvy world of politics the republicans have managed to label the “fair taxes” that democrats are proposing as being a socialist agenda. So it is OK for the government to be socialist when it comes to bailing out wall street and banks and rich people, but it is taboo when, heaven forbid, it comes to government trying to impose more fair and balanced taxes on the rich? Rich republicans, who currently dominate the GOP party platform, have been pushing the message of socialism, re-distribution/spreading of wealth type of messages frankly because they want to continue to build their wealth at the expense of the middle class. So to Joe the plumber, you should be mad as your rich republican friends want to continue to pay their unfair share of taxes under a republican government under the false banner of preventing socialism

by the way, jim. it’d be wise to clue her in. if she does decide to start trouble, russia can see her front porch, too.

We created Iran: We assassinated their leader in 1953, replaced him with the corrupt Shah and British Petroleum was created. Nice work guys. And then the whole 1970 Revolution came. Iran democratically elects thier officials. We have alot of blame in how Iran has turned out. We empowered them with the false war in Iraq as Hussein was a buffer. And we made a mess under Reagan with Iran/Contra. The entire Middle East (not just Israel) is terrified by Iran. But we will not need to go to war with Iran; too costly, too problematic especially as they have Russia on their sides. Only cool minds can negotiate this. And John Adams (a real patriot) said that the most important function of a US president it to AVOID WAR. “Great is the guilt of an unnecesary war”. Iran is more pwerful thanks to Bush, but Iraq will be stabilized and we can move to Afghanistan where the real problem is. Too bad Bush got it all wrong. he really hurt us.

WHy dont the right wing nuts talk about McCain and his socialistic bail out on the mortgages? too busy with Ayers? Still gloating over Monica’s stained dress?

geniusjoe46….I agree!!! Her ratings as Governor have fallen from 82 to 68 as of October 1. She is getting to be as arrogant as her predecessor, Frank Murkowski!

I learned when I was young; “You can learn something from everyone you meet – regardless of their education!”
I think a lot of folks herein can learn a lot from Sarah Palin!
She hunts, and knows how to gut a deer, and how to handle a firearm.
You see, during the upcoming “Obama depression,” those two skills could come in very handy to supplement your soup-kitchen rations!
Having and knowing how to use a firearm will be very handy with the marauding hoards trying to invade your home (if you still have one), or kidnap you or your children.
You see, the value system of this country has digressed so much, that if there is economic chaos, we can’t expect citizens to act like they did in 1929.
Our value system is far worse than that, and those on the bottom rung, will want to take aim (literally) at those supposed in the middle, even if you live a modest lifestyle.
So by all means, learn something from the lame-brained, Caribou-Barbie,,,,it just might save yours or you childrens life.
“Choose wisely grasshopper!!”

Obama with a proposed 1 trillion in additional spending and can’t cut taxes, but he will “change” just like Clinton and raise your taxes. Obama has never voted for a tax cut in his life!
McCain, with a freeze on spending can and will cut taxes. He has done this in the past.
Your actions speak louder than words.
If Obama ran your household budget like his federal budget proposals, you would be in debt up to your eyeballs!!!!!!!!!!!

Taxing benifits is as old as taxing your tax refund – both are stupid but you’re still getting something.
Obamas plan indicates he won’t tax anyone but the wealthy, and they,,,THEY can hide or move money off shore.
Corporations can move jobs overseas, so yeah,,,,we’ll need the welfare Obama prmises.
Soup-kitchens would be a good investment to invest in!

Um, Andrew, the U.S. is in debt up to its eyeball. Have you seen the deficit figures lately… you moron

FACT…If Obama wins, the blacks will party in the street and destroy the property of others. If Obama loses, the blacks will riot in the street and destroy the property of others. Either way, stay out of the street and hold on to your property.

Planewizard
That is why another part of Obama’s plan is to penalize corprorations who take jobs overseas.

The awful truth to any proposal by either candidate still has to be subject to congress, so what is all the fuss about believing anyone as a gospel statement. Are we really that stupid, yes, I guess we are, some actually elected George twice, how dumb can you get?? Want some more, with some moose pie thrown in, then let lightning strike again, and you can blame somebody else the next time. What a country. It takes a lot of wit to be smart, but unfortunately we have a lot of half-wits who can legally vote.

Jock59801; He can’t do anything if they’re “Overseas!” Many, MANY corporations are incorporated in all parts of the world. Places like Europe make incorporating in the USA a very attractive option because of our tax structure.
When we become Europe-II, they’ll pull out just as sure as I have hair on my face and “hang their shingle” in the Caymen Islands” or other tax friendly shelter.
At that time they’ll say,,,,well, why do we have to have factories in the USA? It’s no longer an advantage!
When the factories go, so do the JOBS!
You really fooling yourself if you think he’ll punish them; “He can’t touch them!!”
If you say he’ll impose an import tax, tThey’ll disolve their current name and incorporate as another company (happens all the time)
Please, for the love of God, and your Job, don’t vote for this guy. His Robin Hood plan may have worked in the 1930′s, but for better or worse, we’re in a global market and China, Thailand & India will snap up your jopb in a heartbeat!
Trust me on this one!! I’ve been there!! They do just as good work as we do!!!

Jock59801; He can’t do anything if they’re “Overseas!” Many, MANY corporations are incorporated in all parts of the world. Places like Europe make incorporating in the USA a very attractive option because of our tax structure.
When we become Europe-II, they’ll pull out just as sure as I have hair on my face and “hang their shingle” in the Caymen Islands” or other tax friendly shelter.
At that time they’ll say,,,,well, why do we have to have factories in the USA? It’s no longer an advantage!
When the factories go, so do the JOBS!
You really fooling yourself if you think he’ll punish them; “He can’t touch them!!”
If you say he’ll impose an import tax, tThey’ll disolve their current name and incorporate as another company (happens all the time)
Please, for the love of God, and your Job, don’t vote for this guy. His Robin Hood plan may have worked in the 1930′s, but for better or worse, we’re in a global market and China, Thailand & India will snap up your jopb in a heartbeat!
Trust me on this one!! I’ve been there!! They do just as good work as we do!!!

Jock59801; He can’t do anything if they’re “Overseas!” Many, MANY corporations are incorporated in all parts of the world. Places like Europe make incorporating in the USA a very attractive option because of our tax structure.
When we become Europe-II, they’ll pull out just as sure as I have hair on my face and “hang their shingle” in the Caymen Islands” or other tax friendly shelter.
At that time they’ll say,,,,well, why do we have to have factories in the USA? It’s no longer an advantage!
When the factories go, so do the JOBS!
You really fooling yourself if you think he’ll punish them; “He can’t touch them!!”
If you say he’ll impose an import tax, tThey’ll disolve their current name and incorporate as another company (happens all the time)
Please, for the love of God, and your Job, don’t vote for this guy. His Robin Hood plan may have worked in the 1930′s, but for better or worse, we’re in a global market and China, Thailand & India will snap up your jopb in a heartbeat!
Trust me on this one!! I’ve been there!! They do just as good work as we do!!!

“Spread-the-wealth”
The mask came off, the socialist is now, known for what he represents.
Obama’s association’s with various father figures have formed him into a radical black nationalist with socialist ideals.
Franklin Davis – communist, socialist
Khalid al-Mansour – Muslim, black nationalist, outspoken enemy of Israel.
Rev. Wright – radical, racist, black theology, anti-american
Now, you can see the background of Obama and his mentors.
Obama is not presidential material.

After reading an article about Carol McCain in the UK Daily Mail, the first wife of John McCain, I wouldn’t vote for this scumbag for dog catcher. If he would do this to the mother of his children, what would he do to the American people:
“But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.
‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.
‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

Obama is scary. He’s a fraud, and he’s a Chavez and Castro wanna be. Marx has nothing on Obama. Real scary.

Obama did say he wanted to spread the wealth. That IS socialism. Barack Hussein Obama, wrong on socialism, wrong for this nation.
Posted by: Liberals will follow him over cliff
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/obama-alters-ta.html?cid=136009755#comment-136009755
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“From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”
CARL MARX
Hmmm, it sounds faniliar…
just like That One!

Obama will have to raise taxes on those making $75,000.—WSJ—
The plunder that the Democrats plan to extract from the “very rich” — the 5% that earn more than $250,000 and who already pay 60% of the federal income tax bill — will never stretch to cover the expansive programs Mr. Obama promises.
What next? A core group of Obama enthusiasts — those educated professionals who applaud the “fairness” of their candidate’s tax plans — will soon see their $100,000-$150,000 incomes targeted. As entitlements expand and a self-interested majority votes, the higher tax brackets will kick in at lower levels down the ladder, all the way to households with a $75,000 income.

They were calling Obama a Marxist on the McGlauflin Report last night, even close associates of Obama say he is a Marxist..He will be defeated, he will not get the chance to destroy America
Posted by: common sense
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We will never allow America to become the land of Obama’s “USA: The New Communist Experiment”.
“American Union” (as in Soviet Union) our land shall never be.
Obama can take his “Ayers & Co” community organizing experience and go to Russia… to organize some Siberian Gulags!
This presentation is a must watch for the left-wing-liberal media clowns and all “morally sound” American fellows.
A VIDEO PORTRAIT OF BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
AMERICA THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE

NoWayNoHow…if McCains morals don’t meet your standards, maybe we can get Clinton back in office. you remember him, the guy who was getting a BJ from an intern while his daughter was upstairs in the white house doing her homework. Get over it. If we’re going to elect politicians based on their ability to be faithful, there will be an awful lot of job openings in D.C.

Mcbush is so out of touch with reality it is scary, first he shoves a railroad spike in his first wife’s back, applies for a marriage license before his divorce is final in fact a month before.This rich bimbo never worked a day in her life and when it comes to greed why didn’t she share her inheritance with her siblings does she hate her siblings that bad? AS for Obama’s tax plan all anyone has to do is make sure they don’t earn $250,000 or $200,000 and they won’t have to pay more if I made that kind of money in just 1 year I would consider myself rich. I would love to see MR. and MRS. Mcbush live for 1 month on social security. This country is so far in the hole the next 10 generations are going to be paying this deficit off if they are lucky, my mother would say this is 1929 all over again.

Bill…who are Obama’s friends and advisors? Frank “I made $90million while running Fannie Mae into the Ground” Raines. How about Warren “2nd richest man in America” Buffet. Please, Obama is hanging with the blue-bloods too.

Rose Szymanski…speaking of people who don’t financially take care of their siblings, Obama made $4million last year yet his brother in Kenya is so poor and hungary that he wouldn’t even be a tempting meal to a starving lion…you Rose, are a hypocrite.

At a time that Europe is awakening up – turning to the “right” after years of “failed socialism” it would be a crime to elect Marxist Obama as the next President of the United States of America.
Even France learned the lessons of its “failed socialism” and elected conservative Nicholas Sarkozy – a staunch friend of the United States. And here we are…Americans are about to let our country be destroyed by MARXIST BARACK OBAMA!
The following video is for the geopolitically savvy and morally sound American patriots – not for the “Obama Communist Youth”!
Sarkozy speaks to America: A most remarkable speech:
Video: Sarkozy’s Speech Before the US Congress (see below)
“France’s new leader Nicolas Sarkozy gave a speech before Congress that was, dare I say, almost…Reaganesque. He called America “the greatest nation,” among other platitudes.
You can view the whole thing here, and I really think you should all watch it.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/video_sarkozys_speech_before_congress/
He speaks of America in such glowing terms that you almost wonder if he isn’t, in some ways, more American than certain Democrats I could think of.
What’s particularly interesting is that, years ago when the Bush presidency was new and Iraq was a fresh issue, the left told us constantly that George Bush was making America less popular in the world. Yet during the President’s term in office three of our traditional allies (Canada, Germany and now France) elected leaders that displaced virulently anti-Bush and anti-American leaders with people more of Sarkozy’s temperament (Stephen Harper in Canada and Angela Merkel in Germany).
Sort of almost seems like…that whole “less popular America” thing just isn’t true.”
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/video_sarkozys_speech_before_congress/

Thron the first Mrs Mcbush was in a car accident and was disfigured read the facts, Mrs.mcbush’s siblings live in this country, so it would not be hard for her to share the spoils …. Joe camel, I worked for 39 years probably worked longer than you are old so if the billionaires are not enjoying the fact of more taxes lets have a pity party for them… 63 tango way to go you said it all… stop the madness that’s the way we like it. The change is for the citizens and the government to work together to get this country back on track we need it here not over there. the last voter I hardly think these soldiers are going to vote for someone that isn’t going to bring them home, how do you think Eisenhower was elected? He promised to end the was in Korea and every mother voted for him and he did end the war!!!!!

The difference between Obama’s tax cuts and McCain’s cuts is that for Obama’s tax cuts you have to be a worker on middle class income or lower, while for McCain’s tax cuts you just have to be rich, working or not. To McCain it doesn’t matter if you work or have just had wealth passed on to you and just laze around spending it on yourself. As long as you are wealthy McCain gives you a tax cut.

Rose Szymanski…so you’re telling me that because Obamas brother lives in africa its not possible to help him out financially? is that what you’re honestly sayin? I don’t know anyone in africa but i send money there to feed the children…just costs me the price of a cup of coffee each day. maybe obama could send his brother a check, a money order, do a wire transfer…you’re pathetic. You can’t call somebody out for their shortcomings but turn a blind eye when your candidate exhibits those same short comings. you are absolutely pathetic.

A True patriot
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/mccain-seizes-o.html?cid=136130111#comment-136130111

A year ago (11/08/07)…
““Every time, whenever an American soldier falls somewhere in the world, I think of what the American Army did for France,” Mr. Sarkozy said as his audience applauded. “I think of them and I am sad, as one is saddened to lose a member of one’s family.”
Sarkozy’s emotional speech to our Congress…The left-wing liberal media had of course “downplayed” the event, the same way they downplayed Sarkozy’s visit to our country last week.
More people saw every detail of this visit in Europw than in our country. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why the left wing liberal nedia Morons downplayed President Sarkozy’s visit. (he was here to discuss the global economic crisis with our government)…
The media wants to have us all believe that we are “hated” all over the world -even among our European allies. Well, my answer to the media clowns is that Russia’s invasion of Georgia was the best proof that our allies – one after the other – sttod firmly with our country!
Don’t let the liberal media fool you. After decades of “failed Socialism Europe has taken a sharp turn to the “conservative right” and American- style Capitalism, while we here…we Americans are about to take a sharp turn to the “left”/ Socialism. Europe will be moving forward and we will be moving backwards.
America think before you vote for “Socialism”. That is NOT the kind of “Change” that we need!
Video: Sarkozy speech to US Congress
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/video_sarkozys_speech_before_congress/
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The New York Times
Congress Warms to France’s New President
By ELAINE SCIOLINO
WASHINGTON, Nov. 7 — The United States Congress welcomed Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, with loud cheers and standing ovations on Wednesday, a sign that France had been forgiven for opposing the American-led war in Iraq.
In a speech to a joint meeting of Congress — a rare honor for a head of state — Mr. Sarkozy seemed to strike all the right notes. He spoke of his love of the American dream and cultural icons of the 20th century, from Elvis Presley to Ernest Hemingway. He expressed admiration for American values and for the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He thanked the United States for saving France in two world wars, rebuilding Europe with the Marshall Plan and fighting Communism during the cold war.
When he called France “the friend of the United States of America,” the hall, packed with lawmakers, many of whom held France in disdain only a few years ago, burst into applause. When he said that a nuclear-armed Iran was “unacceptable,” they stood and applauded.
President Bush also showered his French counterpart with praise at a joint news conference following a tour and lunch at Mount Vernon, the Virginia home of George Washington.
“It’s safe to say that you’ve impressed a lot of people here on your journey,” Mr. Bush said, calling Mr. Sarkozy “the kind of fellow I like to deal with.”
The two presidents expressed their shared views on the need to curb Iran’s nuclear program and fight terrorism, and played down their differences on issues like the war in Iraq. “We had a difference of opinion,” Mr. Bush said. “But I don’t sense any difference of opinion now that a struggling democracy wants help from those of us who live in the comfort of free societies.”
Mr. Sarkozy responded cautiously, saying that what France wanted was a democratic, diverse and stable Iraq, able to govern and protect itself.
Mr. Bush even praised Mr. Sarkozy’s effort to break a political deadlock over coming elections in Lebanon by holding direct talks with Syria. While the Bush administration has isolated Syria, two senior French officials met last weekend in Damascus with Bashar al-Assad, Syria’s president, to warn him not to interfere in the elections.
“I have a partner in peace, somebody who has clear vision, basic values, who is willing to take tough positions to achieve peace,” Mr. Bush said. “And so when you ask, am I comfortable with the Sarkozy government sending messages, you bet I’m comfortable.”
The tight embrace of Mr. Sarkozy is remarkable given that he consistently has stated that France was right to oppose the war in Iraq. Like his predecessor, Jacques Chirac, he has refused to help the United States on the ground in Iraq.
But while Mr. Sarkozy did not mention the Iraq war in his speech, he expressed sympathy for American soldiers fighting and dying around the world, saying it reminded him of American soldiers’ sacrifices for France.
“Every time, whenever an American soldier falls somewhere in the world, I think of what the American Army did for France,” Mr. Sarkozy said as his audience applauded. “I think of them and I am sad, as one is saddened to lose a member of one’s family.”
Anti-French feelings were so fierce in Congress after France refused to join the Iraq war effort in 2003 that the word “French” was stricken from the menus of the House of Representatives’ cafeterias. “Freedom fries” and “Freedom toast” were introduced. There were initiatives to boycott any product made in France.
That angry mood is gone.
“President Sarkozy has hit a home run out of the ballpark,” said Representative Tom Lantos, the California Democrat who is chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. “I expect a spectacular renaissance in French-American relations.”
Mr. Lantos added that France was proven right in its refusal to back the war in Iraq.
“In view of everything we know now — the flawed intelligence, the miserable execution of the post-military phase — the French certainly were right,” Mr. Lantos said.
Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, said of Mr. Sarkozy’s performance: “You just heard a Ronald Reagan speech from a president of France. It was an almost out-of-body experience for all of us.”
The Capitol Hill welcome for Mr. Sarkozy sharply contrasted with that for his predecessor, Jacques Chirac, when he addressed Congress on his first state visit to Washington as president in 1996. Many members of Congress boycotted Mr. Chirac’s speech to protest France’s recent nuclear tests in the South Pacific; only about 100 attended.
Mr. Sarkozy managed to draw applause even after he chided the Bush administration for not taking a leadership role on climate change and warned about the risks of the dollar’s sharp decline.
In his speech and the news conference with Mr. Bush, Mr. Sarkozy pledged to be a strong partner with the United States against terrorism and to keep French troops in Afghanistan as long as needed in the NATO-led mission to bring stability.
The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/08/world/europe/08sarkozy.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

Obama is going to spend $150 million dollars before the election to tell us how he is going to redistribute our wealth according to his liking and the liking of his friends, Rev, Right, Ayer, Farakkan, Rezco
Posted by: LostDemocray
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What he is really promoting with is his “Big Ego”.
Obama’s “Big Ego” (ME ME ME FIRST) supersedes our “America the Great”.
We are used to his “pretty speeches” by now…

Obama is going to spend $150 million dollars before the election to tell us how he is going to redistribute our wealth according to his liking and the liking of his friends, Rev, Right, Ayer, Farakkan, Rezco
Posted by: LostDemocray
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What he is really promoting is his “Big Ego”.
Obama’s “Big Ego” (ME ME ME FIRST) supersedes our “America the Great”.
We are used to his “pretty speeches” by now…

Obama is going to spend 2 million of YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY on his victory party in Chicago on election night.
He is already planning this before the PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES GO TO THE POLLS ON NOV 4, this egocentrical, arrogant, snob.

Please pray for this country. God help us if Obama is elected. I am truly scared (for lack of a better word) to have our lives in the hands of Obama.
PLEASE THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO DO WHEN YOU VOTE FOR HIM.

Hey, look at China. They are doing pretty well, don’t they? They are a socialist country, and they attracted all our jobs there.
It’s Zero’s big plan to bring back American JOBS from China. If Capitalism cannot do it, we might just follow up. Let’s follow the done-nothing-doing-nothing-do-nothing Zero to the idea society of from-according-to-his-ability-to-according-to-his-needs.
Posted by: d0 | Oct 23, 2008 1:56:34 PM
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Those jobs are not coming back. Some reasons that those jobs left in the first place (hint: Not the infrastructure):
1. Lower cost of doing business due to lower living costs
2. Less regulation, hence less cost
3. Lower taxes, hence less cost
4. Leading to more favorable overall business environment.
It is a FACT that the US has the 2nd highest corporate tax rate after Japan.
Outwardly, China is VERY capitalistic.
And not all our jobs went to China. Many also went to India: The world’s largest democracy.
Seems to be working well for them. Let’s try it.
What do you say?

Straight Talk or Double Talk
” In 1987, John McCain cast several votes in an attempt to force the Reagan administration to meet with RENAMO1, a guerrilla organization in Mozambique that State Department officials at the time described as a “terrorist group,” 2 without requiring that the group meet any preconditions. “

Planewizard: I think you are onto something. I was actually just thinking to myself, “how in the heck will he penalize them”?
Even if he finds a way to do so, they can do as you mentioned.
But I have actually wondered about a worse scenario (I have a bit of an imagination so if it seems totally far fetched well I warned you): The company simply refuses to do business in the US at all.
Although, the US is still a huge consumer market we are no longer the “only” one. A business that gets tired of excessive political bs could simply choose NOT to do business here once the costs exceed any benefit.
McCain (kinda) gets the realities of business. Obama not a clue.

Oh 4 Ob…I think McCain has done things that have not helped him…but many things were stacked against him…and not his fault. He hasn’t been a great candidate and let Obama get away with far too much…as have his media best friends.
I am resigned to Barry being the President…but know the error will be corrected in 4 years. That brings me great comfort.
Watching the Slimeocrats try and run the kingdom and fail miserably…that’s a freak show I don’t want to miss.
Posted by: Jim | Oct 23, 2008 4:31:53 PM
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Jim, I mostly agree with you.
But we need not wait 4 years. The mid-term elections come in 2010, but let’s not wait to take action till then. We can begin to organize and come together now. We need to replace those elected officials who have betrayed our Constitution and chosen instead to expand government in favor of their special interests. They are traitors to this country.
There is blame on both sides of the political aisle. There are Democrats as well as Republicans who have violated the oath they took to uphold the Constitution.
They ALL need to go.
Finally, good for you to find a silver lining and not give into despair or fear. Know too that you are not alone.

Obama changes so much so often, that I just don’t think he is qualified to be President.

Hello!! McCain!! If the tax policy that you’re proposing that is the same policy that is in effect right now, (and has been for the past 8 years under your good friend Bush) was working then why is our economy in the sh&tter?? Why are more people than ever losing their jobs, and companies folding and losing money? You know why? Because the middle class needs a break so that they can spend some money and start to stimulate the economy once again. What you’re proposing is the same failed economic policy that is rolling us down the drain right now. No thanks, please step aside.

The article says: ABC News’ Teddy Davis, Bret Hovell and Julia Hoppock Report: John McCain is seizing on an ABC News report about Barack Obama tweaking his tax plan to argue that his Democratic opponent will “say anything to get elected.”
McCain isn’t it really you who will say ANYTHING to get elected?? I mean look at all of the lies, distortion, fear-tactics, and smear that you’ve used on your campaign to get your sheep to believe all the BS that you and Palin have been spewing just to try and get a vote. And also, you’ve been copy-catting way too much. You didn’t even start talking about the economy or halfway acknowledge the middle-class until Obama did. Please can’t you come up with your own ideas even?? We need a real President this time.

My goodness lets face it taxes are going to go up, …Susan didn’t you know that properly inflated tires gives you better gas mileage….hummingbird give unto Caesar what is caesars and give unto God what is God’s. When it comes to spreading the wealth obama is talking about building or repairing roads and bridges, take a good look at the highways you travel and bridges you cross, if your fortunate enough to have children take a look at the school, the textbooks, and the teachers are all these things up to snuff, medical care ever had something you needed turned down by your insurance, I did I needed a quad cane when I had a broken ankle, insurance didn’t think it was necessary.So if I wanted to get around I had to pay for it myself. This is spreading the wealth, just some ways of spreading it around, alternate energy is another, the list is long.

-I’ll be flying my American flag upside down-
You should already be doing so.. this Country has been in distress for some time now.
Posted by: Concerned American
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/obama-alters-ta.html?cid=136009755#comment-136009755
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BOZO- I will be swinging our flag with pride and dancing with McCain-Palin and all patriotic Americans to the tune of this video…watch!
A USA Military History (Tchaikovsky 1812 Overture)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6370539579217643597&hl=en
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

Obama is going to spend $150 million dollars before the election to tell us how he is going to redistribute our wealth according to his liking and the liking of his friends, Rev, Right, Ayer, Farakkan, Rezco.
Posted by: LostDemocray
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Hey, one good thing that will happen if Obama is elected is that we would not be worried about Ayers blasting any buildings in Washington, DC.

McCain said that Obama will say anything to get elected?
To win the Republican Primaries, McCain said “I voted with Bush 90 percent of the time. Which is more than most of my Republican colleagues.”
Yet now it is McCain who claims that Obama is more like Bush, now that GW Bush ratings have dropped so low, McCain now claims that Obama is more like Bush.
Yep, McCain will say anything to get elected.

The Obama/Biden campaign closed a loophole that would have enabled non-working home owners to claim a tax credit. That amounts to 1/2 to 2% of working americans. That’s the long and short of it. No more and no less.

I doubt if there is much of a seccessionist movement in Wasilla. When Palin took over as mayor, the long term debt was $1 million. When she left, it was $25 million. They’ll be looking for a “bailout” from the U.S.. She cost the residents as much per person as the Wall Street bailout cost America! Plus, they have a share of that too.

Look – the way the economy has been spiraling down the last couple of weeks, we might all be on welfare pretty soon.

Someone mentioned that China is a socialist country, they are only socialist in the way they treat their citizens. There are a full fledged Capitalist country when it comes to business, and they protect their own interests, unlike the US government.

Some straight talk. McCain’s proposal includes a 29% drop in corporate income taxes [35% - 25%)/35%]. Will Joe the taxpayer get this kind of a break? The problem is we are in for far worse. Has anybody paid attention to corporate income this year and the resulting loss of corporate valuation? The government will have less revenue without any corporate tax reduction. We’re hurtin folks. If nobody pays for nothin, then somebody has to pay for somethin!