McCain’s Three Closing Arguments

1, WE ARE
2, GOING
3, DOWN
I will head back to my stepford beer wife in one of my 11 homes,and sarah palin you will see soon on Tv as a host or something.
I hope OUR LITTLE CIRCUS SHOW was fun for you guys.

Why do they tell What their gonna do?Mccain why dont you start Talking to people about the Issuses and what your gonna do not what Obama is gonna do?

Attacks Attacks Attacks! That’s all McCain can do. Shame on him!

I think they are *planning* to close with 3 arguments. But none of their plans have survived contact with reality.
By this time next week they will have introduced 2 new narratives, minimum.

1) Joe the Plumber has been unmasked as Joe the Phoney. McCain could care less for plumbers; he’s looking out for Joe the Investment Banker and Joe the Offshoring Specialist and the other less-than-5% who will see their taxes skyrocket to the socialist levels they suffered under Chairman Reagan. Oh, the humanity!
2) There will likely be an event during the next four years that will “test” the President. If that test is a crisis of the magnitude of, oh say, Hurricane Katrina, I have a good idea of which candidate I can trust to respond in an efficient, level-headed manner… and which might just write off the victims as “unreal” Americans.
3) Funny that the Pugs never saw any problem when they controlled Executive and Legislative and made big gains on Judicial as well. When the shoe’s on the other foot, suddenly it’s an issue? Fuggitaboutit.

The McCain campaign is just pathetic at this point. Although I am a Democrat I do remember a time when Republicans had credibility. And it just gets stranger and stranger. The young woman in Pittsburgh who was allegedly attacked? Why is the “B” carved backward as if it were done in the mirror. This from Politico:
” Skepticism in Pittsburgh
The police are skeptical:
Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.
By Ben Smith 09:24 AM”

what about the issues? Why just attacks? Because that is all either of you have left!

I Hear the Republican party is a mess crumbiling as we speak, Mccain Bashing Bush,Republicans crossing over to Obama! Republicans slamming Mccain for Bashing Bush, Some getting their Money and ads cut off. Yep One ole Big mess in that Party, I say Its time for the Big Elephants to take some time off!

Rodney,
What do you think of some of the Republicans Jumping on the Obama wagon?

McCain needs to stop using Joe “related to Charles keating” the Plumber for votes. The guy doesnt even have a plumbing license!
http://www.congratstothewinners.com/john_mccain.html

angie
i have republican friends,and they cannot believe some of the childish crap mccain has promoted—-this will be a landslide.

The so-called liberal media haven’t asked any tough questions of Palin in this campaign. The woman who is indignant of “pallin around with terrorists” is married to someone who until recently was a follower of Joe Vogler. Vogler, the founder of the Alaska Independence Party, is infamous for saying “the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won’t be buried under their damn flag.” Who does Palin pal around with, when she isn’t claiming that her children should be compensated for their travel on official state business, or using RNC money to buy Louis Vuitton bags for her daughters?

Rodney
Me too where I live very Republican Area, recently my Neighbors are taking down their Mccain signs replacing them with Obama signs,I asked one of my Neighbors whats going on he told me they are Disgusted with Mccain and his Attacks and constant lies and Mccain not sticking to the Issuses!

mccains past has finally caught up with him–from being the hanoi songbird to the absolute disrespectfull campaign he has ran–as for his experience it can be summed up with two words–george bush—as for maverick,he is nothing more than an old geser chasing kids off the lawn.he has shown very bad judgement all the way including his pick for vp.

Seriously?
1) Joe the Plumber is a myth, a guy who is not a plumber, had no plans to buy the business he claimed to want to buy, and admits himself that he would get an Obama tax break. This is an attack?
2) Obama is untested: Four words: Skin cancer Sarah Palin.
3) Democrats united: he may think that’s a bad idea, but polls throughout the country show that Americans want a Democratic Congress and blame the Republicans for the current crappy state of Congress. They are also aware, before McCain tells them, that Obama is also a Democrat.

Gosh and the repugs should know since they ran uncomtested for Bush’s first 6 years…kinda like saying it was ok for them but not us? LOL Just more Bush/McCain spin

McCain = DISHONORABLE; Palin = SCARY!!!

Article, proof and photo of Obama – belonged to socialist party; http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78945

MCCain needs to look in the mirror and relize he needs to retire. His time has come and gone… He chose Palin as his running mate. Shame on him. He has the nerve to say Obama will do what ever it takes to get to the white house. MCCain is GW.

when you see the people going with obama including some very reputable republicans,it shows just how awfull mccain has been.when he had the old lady stand up and say obama is an arab-,it had me rolling on the floor–what a freaking act–if it wasnt so serious i would still be laughing.these are stunts a child would pull-not someone running for pres—smells of rove all the way.

If you want an experienced, veteran President with an economic policy rooted in conservative principles working to keep in check a liberal congress with a 12% approval rating in a post 9/11 world, John McCain is your man.
McCain has a long record to back up his rhetoric so electing him is no leap of faith. He will keep his promises and his long bipartisan record proves it.
On taxes McCain has vowed to extend the Bush tax cuts . He has vowed not to increase corporate taxes that are already among the highest in the developed world.
He has a long bipartisan record and in 2005 co-sponsored bill S190 which sought to tighten the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Had this legislation not been killed by the Democrats in the Senate Banking Comittee the damage we see today to our economy would have been mitigated.
My two most important issues are national security and the econcomy in that order.
On national security McCain is a tested veteran who has vowed to stay on offense against our enemies. Despite Colin Powell he has the endorsement of 4 previous Secretaries of State and many respected Admirals and Generals. He was right on Russia / Georgia and he was right about the troop surge.
On the economy, his pro-trade policies and corporate tax policy will keep US businesses growing, helping main street and wall street. He has vowed to reform government spending and cut unnecessary programs and pork.
Why is there even a debate?

The closing arguments will more likely take the form of closing excuses.
(1) “It’s the economy, stupid.” We were ahead until we were behind.
(2) “It’s the incumbent, stupid.” We had too strong a headwind — the Bush administration legacy.
(3) “This is a generational transition.” Obama was so much younger and energetic — and unknown. And we were even older than Bush.

who cares anymore?

Luke – see my response above.
Thanks,
Steve

becky
very well said

if i personaly was running for pres today i would not want to win—-the mess that will be inherited from the bush administration is absolutely horendos—-the whole country is screwed up–straightening out this mess will be difficult for a young very educated guy—inpossible for an old hatefull fool.

yes the rich guys paying some taxes really scares me—-what a joke–15% has all the money fool.

What ever happened to McCain’s “I can fix that…I know how to do that” It seems to me he has grand ideas of his own importance but no vision for our country. So what if we have a Dem congress and Pres. Ideas will flourish and our country will grow.

Palin abusing her power even before she get’s in. Nice choice MCLiar.
Steve make sure you don’t cross her she might fire you…

hehe.
i think the republicans know down deep this election is lost/over and now that they have really made their party into some kind of retard/racist/war lover magnet they now realize what kind of a “moronic majority” they now are because of the kinds of voters they attempt to attract . in fact they are a minority politically and that will be their downfall.
the republican party is completely out of touch with main street and could care less about the working man/woman ,joe jill or whoever. all they care about are tax cuts for the elite rich and more taxpayer bailout corporate welfare and fat cat giveaways.
NO MORE !!!

Maybe because I’m older than most, I remember a time when being a Republican was not about attacks. When it meant balancing the budget, keeping the national debt in check, providing for “domestic tranquility.” Being a Democrat was much the same, from a different point of view. Now I wonder if this campaign is covered by the Hate-Crime statutes. Not only the abuse from the podium about two Americas, real and un-real, pro and anti Americans, but also from forums like this one. So much hate, so much self righteousness. It is scary. I do remember Joe McCarthy, vaguely.
The times I remember are not the Reagan years, he was in fact the first to blow the national debt out of the water. He was the author of “trickle-down” economics. Which means heap lots of money and resources on the rich to keep them that way and some will dribble from their chins down to the rest of us. Regardless of each of us getting our little checks for $300 thinking our taxes were reduced, when the dollar value of your income tanks, it is much the same as having a tax increase; but without paying down the gross national debt.
When it is ok for the super rich to get paid a million a month or more, and get tax rebates of more than I make in three years, (and yes, I do NOT qualify for a tax cut under Obama,) more than Palin can spend on clothes in ten years, there is something very wrong with America.

skeptic
only an idiot would invest in american mfg.check where the money is going–check out your local wallmart—that will answer your question –and dont push the jobs here crap–as for 1 job created here there are at least 50 lost thru all phases of mfg.

4. McCain calls 911 to complain about the media.

1) Fear
2) Fear
3) Fear
Thank you John McCain

6. McCain informs everyone that he’s a POW.

Before December 31, 2008 John McCain will publicly state his regret for the way he has allowed his campaign to be run. Move over Keating 5, there is a new “lowest moment.”

Hasn’t he already tried all those 3? With 11 days left, I highly doubt it will resonate with any voters. Barack Obama has portrayed the calmness and deep knowledge he has on every issue. I’m so proud of the democratic candidate this year. We have been disappointed so many times. I can’t wait till election night.

Pathetic little keebler elf. Can’t you come up with something better than that?

the states all turn blue ,and mccain says he has us just where he wants us—-has he turned democrat.

10. McCain says Mother Teresa convinced him to adopt Bill Ayers.

Candidate Tax Comparison
(With Obama reversion to Pre-Bush Tax cuts)
Single making 30k McCain pay $4500
Obama Pay $8400
Single Making 50 K McCain Pay $12,500
Obama Pay $14,000
Married Making 60k McCain Pay $9,000
Obama Pay $16,800
Isn’t this the middle Class?????

angie
lunch time
goodbye.

#1: Let me know if John McCain also thinks that Clintonism is socialism and Warren Buffet supports what McCain believes to be Obama’s “socialist” agenda.
#2: McCain won’t need to be tested because al Qaida’s supporters have already concluded that he will be as stupid and trigger-happy as George W Bush and electing him means the terrorist organization can continue their strategy of exhausting our country militarily and economically.
#3: A Democratic White HOuse and Congress — that will just be like having a majority government in a parliamentary system.

Say Goodnight Mr. McCain
Obama/Biden 2008

How about Palin the shopper?
She did inject a lot of money in the real economy afterall…no BS here…there is an upside to that $150,000 wardrobe.

Pathetic!
Face facts …this race reminds me of Goldwaters’ challenge in ’64…
Look at McCains crowds…he would be smart to put a few black and hispanic supporters behind him..I know they are out there because I know quite of few of them..
Then he speaks about unity…change..
The REPUBLICAN party is in for huge changes….HUGE..

Obama voters are the Pathetic ones. They haven’t even researched his “Promises”. If you think you are going to cash in, guess again. If he gets elected the market will go south in a big way. They are already wondering whether or not this mornings downward spiral is a fear of an Obama presidency. If you want a job..vote McCain. If you want your 401k to go up, Vote McCain.

2 thinker:
I wonder how many of those Wal-Mart moms that Palin says she represents ever shop in SAKS? Probably not many. Also, isn’t this wardrobe worth more than 2 years of Joe the Plumbers salary? I guess she will come out tomorrow and say “Let them eat cake!!” HAHAHA!! This election has given me some of my best laughs.

Obama isn’t “everything a president should be” He is just the image of one. In the movies Harrison Ford looks and speaks like a great President, but should he be one?

1, Attack
2, Attack
3, Attack
How about:
1, Inspire
2, Inspire
3, Inspire

The hate and invective against an ordinary fellow citizen Joe is despicable and indicative of what the leftists and their supporters are all about these days.Power or illusions of it get them all!It is very disapointing.I was a John Kerry and Democrat supporter but no more…

You know a campaign is on the brink when the infighting begins and people start jumping ship.

You darn baby boomers!!! LOL..come on everyone…start having more babies!! They will be the ones paying your bill when your old and can’t work anymore..insure your future…start your own baby factory!!

scoutkraft…this is a serious matter.
im very sorry but you (like almost all republicans/conservatives) dont have the requisite intellect or objectivity to participate in a useful way ,like most republicans.
read the papers you moron…your forecast of gloom and doom should the democrats get into office ARE ALREADY HERE!!! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE BURNING RUBBER YOU IDIOT!!
and scoutkraft, 98% or so of the current mess this country is in is due to hardliner republican polices and agenda combined with a republican majority in the house/senate and a retard of a republican president to make the moron repuglitard package complete.

I live in a red state, but lived most of my life on the left coast. So, I can’t help but to be very weary about any kind of optimism that Obama will win. What if McCain wins the electoral college vote, but loses the popular vote by millions? I’m sure the difference in popular vote will be much larger than when Gore won the popular vote, but lost the electoral vote. I see more yard signs and bumper stickers for Obama than I did for either Kerry or Gore, but McCain still has the edge by a pretty good margin here in KY. I hope Obama wins, and I think he will, but I still have doubts.
Although, I don’t fear having Obama as president next time America faces a major crisis. I just don’t see how any new crisis in the coming year can be bigger than the current economic crisis, global warming, dying oceans, our dependence on oil, the national debt, and the collapse of social security, medicare and the rest of our health system.

“the problem with all 3 without details is all are attacks and no vision of the future.”
- best post in here…

Why is the MSM not looking into the possibility that Obama is not a US citizen, A law suite filed by a Dem Rep time line has expired and Obama has not produced a VALID Birth Certificate proving his place of birth. And per Rule 36 of the US Court by default Obama has admitted he was not born in the US>

its so funny, all the repubs cheering McCain on when he claims Obama is going to ‘spread the wealth’ are mostly dirt poor and would be the ones to benefit. How many of them make over $250,000? very few. What a load of idiots. NONE of their money is going to be taxed more, but they will get tax cuts. But morons will be morons.

Bush/McCain/Palin/Rove – comical to say the least. If by some miracle they are elected will they run the country like they did their campaign? Scarey thought!

Obama is planning to return to Clinton -era tax cuts for the middle class. I think that a lot of middle class families did pretty good under Clinton. We have pretty learned that “Trickle Down Economics” does not work.
Posted by: Mary | Oct 24, 2008 12:26:24 PM
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Maybe we just didn’t let the “Trickle Down Economics” work long enough. We have to wait until the rich have soooooo much money it is falling out of their pockets and us poor people can pick it up off the ground.
And to the people who are saying people should stop picking on poor Joe the plumber. I did feel bad for him until he started to campaign for McCainon TV and at rallies. At that point he became fair game.

1)Senior GOP hands close to President Bush and top congressional aides denouncing the candidate for what they said was an unfocused message and poorly executed campaign.
2)Top Republican officials have let it be known they are distressed about McCain’s organization. Coordination between the McCain campaign and Republican National Committee, always uneven, is now nearly dysfunctional, with little high-level contact and intelligence-sharing between the two.
3)At his Northern Virginia headquarters, some McCain aides are already speaking of the campaign in the past tense. Morale, even among some of the heartiest and most loyal staffers, has plummeted. And many past and current McCain advisers are warring with each other over who led the candidate astray.
Article from Politico
McCain can BLAME HIMSELF!!!
NOV. 4TH = OBAMA\BIDEN08

Becky: That’s right, Obama only owns one house. Are you jealous of McCain’s wealth? Oh, I forgot again, only DEMOCRATS are entitled to live well and realize the American dream. When Republicans do it, it’s called, “Elitism” and they are castigated for it. You need to wake up before it’s too late.

McCain wants to create jobs for Americans not send them overseas with higher corporate taxes.
McCain has years of experience with govt. Obama has years of experience with US haters!!
Obama is slick no doubt but God help us if he actually wins Nov. 4th. Moving to Canada sounds like a good plan.
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN

27% tax rate on my income of $175,000 works out to about $47,250 per year. A 15% tax rate on a person’s income of $450,000 is about $67,500 per year. See, too many people don’t understand 5th grade math. Making more money and being in a lower tax bracket does not mean you pay less in taxes. In most cases, you pay much more. That’s why the Democrats are working so hard to get the undereducated behind them, because the gullible will believe just about anything.

MEN if Obama lost is only becouse he is balck. You better all white vote for him. AKA los angeles?

McCain supporters still can’t handle the fact that Obama is pulling their hands off of the power controls. Republicans are once again grasping at straws with fear, lies and inuendo in a last ditch effort to lose by less.

McCain and Palin deserve to see all their polls heading southward as they have produced nothing but playing this named calling game, so therefore, they deserve to lose!
At first, I thought that they were bright, but instead they have proven time after time, that they are just two rusted dumb-bells.
I hope that they will step aside after this election… so that we can rebuild the GOP as we once knew it to be.

The market is already reacting to a potential Obama presidency. Who would invest in America with all of his business taxes, unions and redistribution of wealth ideas? Get ready …. if Obama is elected, it’s going to get a lot worse. Another Carter. Yes, the Republicans have some work to do. But with Obama, Pelosi and Reid in power, it will get so bad, that Republicans will cruise to wins during the next 5 election cycles. And hopefully, since a black man was elected president, people will stop using race as a scare tactic to shut people up.

McCian and Palin are playing the name calling game? are you serious??What did they do to Sarah Palin for weeks. But I guess that is ok. Look at the democrats and what they write up above. that isn’t name calling? Idiot.

Is McCain completely incapable of coming up with a real issue? Its as if he’s not even trying. He should try to shore up some dignity and end his campaign with some class. He’s embarrassing himself.

“That’s why the Democrats are working so hard to get the undereducated behind them, because the gullible will believe just about anything.” LOL! Exactly who are these under-educated masses you are describing? Joe Six Pack? Joe the un-licensed and tax evading plumber? White Americans who make less than $50,000 a year? Sarah Palin? McCain himself was bottom of his class! I am an Ivy League educated professional woman who voted for Obama yesterday. I am about as realistic as they come. The most gullible people I see are the sheep voting for McCain and Palin based soley on the pseudo-news they get from Fox and Limbaugh. As for McCain’s economic policy – taxing our health care dollars, reducing medicare by hundreds of millions of dollars & privatizing social security at a time when the older American population is increasing will be disasterous for our economy and the well being of our older citizens. McCain is a 72 year old man who can’t even relate to his own cohort.

Wow… am I GLAD I am not a Democrat. You guys/gals condemn and condemn actions you are, right here and right now, guilty of – disrespectful, ignorant, mudslinging comments when someone doesn’t agree with your opinion. BTW – that’s the point with ALL Democratic control – there will be no “working together crossing party lines” with Pelosi in power. And if I lived in Alaska right now – the way you treat people – I’d want to succeed from the Union, too, if this is the attitude that gets into the Presidency. “Sit down, shut up, pay me your taxes because I know what’s best for you!!!”

Becky – sorry but the republicans never had a filibuster proof majority. In order to get the bill to vote you need 60 votes out of 100. Since the republicans all voted yes and the dems all voted no the 60 votes required to get the bill to the house were never achieved.
Nice try though.
A filibuster, or “talking out a bill”, is a form of obstruction in a legislature or other decision-making body. An attempt is made to infinitely extend debate upon a proposal in order to delay the progress or completely prevent a vote on the proposal taking place.

You are so right!
Obama and the Media have lied to us. His reversion to Pre Bush Tax cuts, in this economy will KILL THE MIDDLE CLASS. It will create 2 classes the ultra rich and the poor, which is the ultimate Marxist scenerio. Instead of making fun of how stupid Palin and McCain are, you should realize how stupid and gullible YOU have been to swallow rhetoric, without doing any research. Think and investigate the promises of Obama. Stock market will plummett. Jobs will be lost.
so true so true so true -
Most Dems have NO IDEA what he will do to this country – Change is right! And it won’t be for the better! They have no CLUE – they need to educate themselves.

Nin,
I completely agree with you. McBush should close this campaign on a high note – with dignity.
So far, all he has proved is that he has a sore loser’s mentality (If I am losing, I will take everybody with me. I will make you all miserable with me.) There is a saying that goes, “Misery loves company.” Poor Palin – she was dragged into this mess by Septogenarian McBush.

3 main points. No substance.
And the the fourth point; worries about jobs going overseas because of an Obama win?
The jobs have already left the building. We did it to ourselves. It’s a bit late to try to be in the side of “regular” Americans.

I like what Carole.K | Oct 24, 2008 12:41:01 PM said.
Most of the people boo’ing Obama at McCain rallies on Obama tax cuts would benefit from them. But, I guess using the word socialism is the deciding factor that brainwashes people into thinking it is a bad thing. All the while forgetting that American is not a purely capitalist society and that we have socialist-type programs…SOCIAL SECURITY could be veiwed as socialist because we all pay into that account for the better of all. The fact that tax payer dollars were spent to prop up the economy is a form of socialism.

REPUBLICAN POLITICS… SAY 1 Thing But do the exact Opposite and people continue to buy it…?
I’m beginning to think People in the USA don’t really want change, They Just want to complain.

“There’s one big difference between me and the others–I won’t take every last dime of the surplus and spend it on tax cuts that mostly benefit the wealthy.” [McCain campaign commercial, January 2000]
“I am disappointed that the Senate Finance Committee preferred instead to cut the top tax rate of 39.6% to 36%, thereby granting generous tax relief to the wealthiest individuals of our country at the expense of lower- and middle-income American taxpayers.” [McCain Senate floor statement, May 21, 2001]
“But when you look at the percentage of the tax cuts that–as the previous tax cuts–that go to the wealthiest Americans, you will find that the bulk of it, again, goes to wealthiest Americans.” [NBC’s “Today,” Jan. 7, 2003]
I guess McCain is the one who will say anything to get elected.

At this point it doesn’t matter to me what mccain says.McCain and his supporters are just pathetic – character attacks didn”t work, so now they want to call obama”s plan socialism. Please… that fear tactic has been used so many times before – even back to JFK – it didn”t work then and it won”t work now – so since all the smears haven”t worked – they go after his birth certificate. Honestly, get a grip. The only way McCain could ever win this race is with voter fraud. In Virginia yesterday, they were having trouble with the voting computers. Everytime they selected Obama the system placed the check in McCain – We need to be on our guard – we”ve seen how desperate mccain and his supporters have become – they will cross any line

Rational Voter
I thought I was the only one calling that attack suspect. Because she was at an ATM, but, all ATMs have cameras and the only answer is that she was out of the veiw of an ATM camera. Also, why would someone put a backwards B on your face if they are looking at it from a different angle. Also, they had reported it was carved into her face…but that looks like someone took an eraser and just rubbed her face really hard with it. I remember being in middle school and seeing kids do this same thing to make fake tats on their skin. If she was attacked, I feel bad for her…but it just seems suspect to me.

Poor Sarah Palin… We will SOON see $150,000.00 worth of second-hand clothing being auctioned off on EBAY… for $2,000,000.00 perhaps???
Welcome to the economic 501 Class – Mastering Ebay Economic Principles.

McCain, get rid of Sarah Drag Failin Palin, and you might still have an inkling, sprinkling chance. Oh, make her pay back the $150k though. She’s so cute with those pig lipsticks on. But don’t forget, spend some more money to buy her an ENCARTA, or a second grade dictionary. She so o o needs them.

Steve
Just how could the Obama presidency be any more corrupt that what we have now? With the republicans and BUSH supporting the bail out of the rich bankers I call that socialism and corruption.
Let me hear from McCain’s own mouth what he plans to do for us. I haven’t heard him speak one friggin’ word about what he is going to do.
We need to vote the republicans out of their golden parachute offices and put somebody in there who is going to work for the American citizens. The repubicans and Bush have almost single handedly destroyed the US.

Well the one good thing about McCain’s concession party is that Cindy can provide lots of free beer and Palin probably talks funnier when she’s drunk.

I have known so many beautiful women in my life. Some of them lost their beauty once they opened their mouths for beauty is only skin-deep.
I know that probably Gov. Palin is a decent person, however she allowed herself to be degraded and debased by the advisers of Sen. McCain.
Gov. Palin, wake up. Attack if you must even Sen. McCain – don’t listen to their partisan diatribes – prove to them your mettle. You can still salvage your dignity and not allow yourself into the mud that Sen. McCain dug himself into.
America is blessed to have this exchange of civil ideas. This is democracy at work!!!

==Just how could the Obama presidency be any more corrupt that what we have now? With the republicans and BUSH supporting the bail out of the rich bankers I call that socialism and corruption.
I am principally opposed to the rescue. But don’t try to compare the rescue to a tax plan based on providing checks to people who don’t pay taxes at the expense of those that do.
The rescue is a reaction to a perceived imminent threat to our entire economic system. The intent is to rescue both Main Street and Wall Street. If you have a 401K you should be able to understand the difference.

Ya know…I think McCain was probably a good guy once. But he spent most of the last decade kissing Bush’s rear (and voting along with him) not becuase he wanted to maybe but because he thought he was doing what he had to to secure his party’s nomination in the next election. Does it make him a bad guy…no. Does it make him presidential…again no. And he’s showing a desperate, tacky side of himself now that he’s realized the sad fact that all that butt-kissing he hated doing is not doing him any good now.
Obama…of course he’s not perfect…but he IS the President that we need in these times to bring a little balance back to our economy, etc. His even-temperment, and varied background will be an assest to him in more ways than I think people realize. When people call him a muslim (which he is NOT)it really frustrates me that they don’t see that his exposure to this culture will HELP him in dealing respectfully with those different from us instead of the hate/fear doctrine that has been practiced by Bush/McCain.

My name IS John, and I represent that little guy, the guy who works on the assembly line, or drives a truck. I champion guys like Joe the Plumber and the other American workers: that segment of the economy, that on the day the credit market tanked,”I said was strong.” Remember my friends, I am one of you– I stand with you. My running mate was selected because she is one of you too. Along with her, us poor souls need to stick together–and I will be YOUR leader. And for those who say that Joe the Plumber will never rise to a level where he will be forced to pay higher taxes, remember what I said , “I’ve hired him to replace all the plumbing in all seven of my houses in AZ.” That sure says a lot about my commitment to the working class of America. Together we, will take back the white house and congress from all of those “elitists” who, as my running make says “think they are just better than us” I know that you are confused my her statements, But my friends TRUST ME, I know what she meant. I know you are also confused by my ever changing policies on the economy, immigration and other things. But again, TRUST ME, I am only putting forth some ideas to test the waters. By the time I take office in 2009, the results of my polls will be in and I will know exactly which direction to led this great country. My friends, its time to realize that in 2000, the majority ushered in eight years of republican rule. And, for two of those eight years, the democrats have ruled the Congress. The fact that my party kept the democratically controlled congress paralized does not exculpate them for responsibility for the mess the country these “do-good” democrats have caused. If they had somehow been able circumvent us and pass laws re-regulating the banking industry, this thing could have been avoided. But to blame us for this mess, is like trying to blame the drunk driver for the accident– my friends we could not have gotten drunk unless the democratic congress had not served him.” MY Friends, ISN’T IT REAllY TIME FOR A CHANGE.

Well people it looks like Hitler’s bunker mentality. And were are the troups?
Complaints only go sofar at the DMV. Why would they work anywere else.
This country works on better stuff then B.S. Life was good to some, and worst for most. Time for a change. Besides a leader that wears Blinders and carry’s a crystal ball is going and an Old warrior can’t save the party.

The media has to keep up these stories of “polls tightening” and petty political scandals because it’s their job. This election is over. Congratulations President Obama. I am very excited to see the new America you will lead us all in building.

God help us all if McCain is elected. He is to old for office. There should be a age limit. Say 36 to run and a cut off at 60. he should retire, but not like Farve.

I am an independent. I will be voting for Obama/Biden. Why? Because they are offering “hope” for the future. McCain/Palin are not offering anything. Their plan for the last 10 days are not of hope, but of despair.

I am an independent. I will be voting for Obama/Biden. Why? Because they are offering “hope” for the future. McCain/Palin are not offering anything. Their plan for the last 10 days are not of hope, but of despair.

Old bully & Obama is a young slick bully. No matter whick one wins we will loose

Please excuse my writing abilities. I know I am not the most eloquent writer. I just wanted to make a few points. So here goes.
I feel this country’s daily life is like flying. Sometimes the plane will hit some turbulence. It is especially important for the pilot to make an announcement to the passengers in a calm and reassuring tone of any un-expectant turbulences. The pilot needs to be calm and react immediately to the bumps.
Everybody knows our politics has gotten so negative. There are people full of hate on both sides. You hear it on talk radio. You hear it on the political ads and the political rhetoric.
I remembered when I took a physics class I learned the following laws. I learned about Newton’s Laws of Physics. And I learned about the right hand rule of electromagnetic waves.
Two of three of Newton’s Laws of physics are the following. For every action, there is like reaction. Then there is the momentum effect. The third Law of Newton has to do with a math formula F=ma.
The right-hand rule has to do with the following. If you were to extend your right hand, place your thumb up and wrap your other four fingers around as a circle, this displays electromagnetic flow of electricity. For example, if you have a coil of electrical wires with electricity flowing increasingly in one direction; an increasing amount of electromagnetic waves will flow in the direction of the right hand thumb. In other words that direction, but at 90 degrees, will be the electrical flow. However, if you have another coil of wires, the change in flow of electromagnetic waves will cause electricity to flow by the right hand rule. You point your thumb of your right hand into the flow of the electromagnetic waves and then you wrap your fingers around. That will be how electricity will flow within the second coil of wires.
I have a hypothesis, that in some circumstances, human emotions are tied to Newton’s laws of physics and to the right hand rule. Let me explain. It sometimes seem emotions can be between individuals, nations, or groups of people ruled by the science laws mentioned. It can be good will, hate or panic emotions. Let me give an example.
Before and during some times in history, such as WWII, emotions started out (the hate) as action and reaction behavior. Then after a while, emotions finally turned into large amount of Hate momentum, such as during the height of the War in 1944. Emotions can apply to other people such as between neighbors, political parties, or groups of people.
Let me mention, for example, what is now happening with Russia. Of course there has been action and reaction behavior dating way back during the Soviet Union days. There was definitely a momentum of hate and distrust during the cold war. Today, however, we are beginning a momentum of more hate and distrust once again. For example, we moved some of our missiles closer to Moscow such as within Poland (action.) Now Russia has made an announcement of modernizing their missile defense system. I am sure it will involve Cuba (reaction.) Then we will react to this reaction. Then soon the momentum of hate and distrust will begin once again between our two nations. We need to respect the wishes of Moscow and perhaps move those missiles back.
Then we have the right hand rule. Could emotions hypothetically be tied to this rule? For example could increasing amount of hate momentum within our country be causing panic within our stock markets. It is obvious our two political parties increasingly hate each other. You hear it on talk radio, political ads and the rhetoric between people of the two political parties. Could this hatred, according to the right hand rule, be causing another emotion called panic? At first glance, it would seem they would be unrelated. Or could they.
Ever since the turn of this century (year 2000), our country has been in new historical territory (or big turbulences.) We had 9/11. We had gas prices never experienced before. Now we have the stocks never behaving like anything before within our lifetime (most people been born after 1929.) Could the next 4 years be a future never experienced before? Could this excess hate between our two political parties actually come back to bite us all. Hate energy, I feel, is a real energy. Hate emotions may also cause other seemingly unrelated emotions to happen such as panic within our world’s stock markets.
This country is already in a major economic “turbulence” never experienced within our lifetimes. We, as a nation, should think our “political storm” through. We all would like to have a new leader who is calm and reassuring. Let us all stop this negative excess hate rhetoric. Otherwise, just like the start of a tornado, this hate may become too big to be manageable.
I love this country – let us take care of it in the long run. Let us think this political season through. Whoever does become president, I hope he will not have to manage a country with so much hate from the other side. Too many families are stressed out do to their finances. Let us hope our leaders will, starting today, to have calm and reassuring ads and rhetoric. I feel our great nation and stock markets depend on it.
Call me crazy, perhaps. Call me a poor writer, probably. Please excuse my rant. But I just wanted to make these points.

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As an Obama supporter, I hope McCain does use those three closing arguments because that isn’t what the voters want to hear and he will lose for sure.

Biden’s so-called gaffe is actually something McCain’s original want for VP , Lieberman, said many months ago. And Lieberman was not just talking about Obama. History is that the last presidents have been tested early in their careers

For the past 28 years,the Republicans have controlled the Presidency for 20. The 8 years was the Clinton years and we know how much they were loved even w/ Bill’s slip up (McCain had a slip up too w/ Cindy), but at least at the end of the 8 years we had a surplus.. Look what the Republican party has done to American in the past 30 year?! The party has a rift within its ownself, won’t unify as a party, ruin the moral integrity of this nation across the world, and people are actually crazy enough to give them 4 more years of this nonsense!? The reality is the Old John McCain may have beat Obama, but we can all see who is running the game on the American people. Obama has pretty much been the same throughout his 20 month campaign but look at McCain. He sold himself to the devil to represent his “base” and look what it has turned him into. An oppressor old fool who no one really cares for anymore. He should really be ashamed of what he has done continuing to divide a nation. Thats what Republicans do.. divide.. they operate w/ Jim Crow laws for the Liberals instead of understanding the other side has a point of view that you must respect. The ideal of America is freedom and its really the conservative party who likes to condemn you if you don’t feel the same way as it does. I don’t care if you are liberal or conservative~ the main point is I’m trying to do whats right for America and that means electing a strong steady hand.. not someone who sometimes when you look at them on TV you wonder how they escaped the straight jacket…

Obamas 3 campaigning points. 1. Distract from the truth 2. Trick voters 3. Lie

I think it has to come if Obama wants to do everything that he is talking about. I mean, he has such a mega-plan out there to provide free this, free that, free everything else, universal healthcare, universal this. It all doesn’t come without a cost. Now, they’ll tell you that we can pay for all these things if we, (A), end the war in Iraq, which we all want to do, and (B), if we do away with the president’s tax cuts. Well, remember, that ’03 tax cuts, but remember, if we do away with one tax cut, on the one hand, that’s basically raising new taxes on the other hand.
So, yes, obviously, if Senator Obama becomes president, all of us have to be afraid, very much afraid that our taxes will be going up.

For example, let’s say you’re part of a married couple, filing jointly, with $60,000 in taxable income. In 2008, you would pay $8,198. If you have the same amount of taxable income after the Bush tax cuts are repealed, and tax rates return to 2000 levels, you’ll pay $11,100.
You get to be more patriotic in Joe Biden’s mind to the tune of $2,902, out of your pocket and into the government’s coffers. Gotta spread that wealth around, you know.
But don’t worry. Barack Obama says he won’t raise taxes on people making less than $250,000, and provide a tax cut for 95 percent of Americans. He promised

Bush is withdraw from Iraq already, but Obama told Iraq government to stop US withdraw and wait from him to be president. Treason!
Obama againsts driling, againsts nuclear power plants. His energy plan is to inflate your tires and said that it will save just as much of the oil that can be drilled. How stupid it can be! McCain will lead us to real energy independence by drilling before we can build more alternitive energy sources like wind, solar. Nuclear energy will enable plug-in electrical cars to be charged and eliminate car pollutions all together.
Obama will increase spending to 1 trillion and spend $50 billion of your tax to Global Poverty tax.

McCain = HERO
Obama = ZERO
Hillary said it the best: “Obama’s not ready to be President.”
Joe Biden: “It’s not the time for on the job training, Mr. Obama”.
Has the nation forgot these two said this?
Posted by: David | Oct 24, 2008 1:33:22 PM
** we did when Sarah Palin was chosen as his partner

Joe Biden even hates Obama.

Liberal press
Nobody ever said anything about returning ALL tax rates to 2000 levels; only the top one.

Let’s see if I’ve got the chronology right; first it was the McCain/Palin Campaign, next it was the Palin/McCain Campaign, and now it’s the Joe the plumber/Palin Campaign.
The Straight Talk Express is on The Bridge To Nowhere, running on empty!

Listen you coward, you can say anything you want about McCain but don’t you dare critisize his behavior as a POW. You are a freaking coward. The man had two broken arms and a fx femur which were not treated. Your are a coward lowlife asxhole

About Barak News also known as ABC. ABC has not shown one thing about Biden and his comments. Has not shown one thing about the $800,000 sent to ACORN from the Obama campaign but they can talk about how Sarah is dressing. This is typical liberal media. I want to here more about Barak’s associations which he has been side stepping since running against Hilliary. Hilliary should of been the nomination and not this liar. The Democrats were bought by a smooth talking socialist, brought up by the corrupt political machine in Ill………..Illinois has the highest tax rates in the country, Highest crime rate in the country, highest unemployment in the country and this state is ran by all Democrats. Why is the media not talking about this, oh that is right there are no Republicans to blame. This is not what I want for my country.

Palin is not only incredibly unqualified and untested,she has abused her power and used taxpayer dollars for her own benefit. It would have been a difficult election for McCain anyway, with the disastrous shadow of Bush looming. But the selection of Palin was what got his plane shot down. Erratic, bad judgments.

You can drill drill drill all the oil available and it won’t affect the price of gas one bit because the price of oil is globally affected by OPEC. If we produce more oil, then OPEC will produce less oil. By decreasing global supply, price of oil goes up. The U.S. isn’t going to sell their oil for less than the rest of the world! Drill drill drill doesn’t fix the problem. Conservation, electric cars, hydrogen cars, these are what will get us away from dependance on foreign oil.

jock59801 Do you do any research or only go on About Barack News also known as ABC.

True desperation is coming to the surface for the GOP. All they have left now is slamming and badmouthing Obama and Biden. I think the American people are sick to death of rhetoric, lies, gossip, inuendo, and slams. We need a leader with a good, young, calm, steady as you go head on his shoulders now to lead us out of the economic and world-wide mess Bush and his cronys have put us in, McCain included – we need Obama.

hopesprings52 Palin has been more tested as a Gov. then a Senator who has spent most of those days while in office on the campaign trail. He has also spent $1 million dollars a day in pork since he has become a Senator. Obama has no experience just ask Hilliary and Biden.

Steve,
“Our system is based on incentives. If you work hard you can achieve anything you want. When the government starts handing money out to people who do not deserve it our incentive system is corrupted. I’m hard pressed to find an example of any government run program that hasn’t been a debacle (soc security, medicare, fannie freddie, on and on and on).”
I appreciate your more reasoned support of McCain, but I have to disagree with you on two counts.
1. It’s not very hard to find examples of government programs that have worked: the New Deal programs, the GI bill (I take examples from the past because they are less contentious; we have the point of view of history). Many think the Great Depression could have been averted if gov’t had acted more quickly then and this idea governs the Wall Street bailout now, which McCain voted for. And as a corollary, for every example of bad government it’s easy to find an example of bad business (enron? AIG? etc.) and of people whose “hard work” in getting wealthy consists of being born wealthy or (all but) scamming people.
2. Relatedly, it’s really too simple to equate hard work with economic prosperity. Plenty of wealthy people never worked hard (see above) and even more people work in grueling jobs–or two jobs–to make ends meet. We can’t blame their poverty on them. It’s just the case that not everyone starts this race at same line. We all start at different places. I don’t make $250,000 a year, but I have been blessed with a good public school education (related to where my family could afford to live), which has enabled me to leverage hard work in a way others cannot. I gladly will pay taxes–and believe in a progressive tax system–so that others less fortunate can share the opportunities I have had.
I don’t think that’s “socialism;” it’s the reigning economic idea in the US at least since the depression. But I would note that countries with extremes between rich and poor tend to be despotic, unfair and underdeveloped. Countries that have progressive taxation and strong government programs (e.g. in Europe) do pretty well. The irony is that it is gangster capitalism that will make us more like that old bete noir, Russia, not “socialism”
Boy I can’t wait to sing.

McCain has 68% support of the Military and Obama has 22%. This should say more then any politician or foriegner on here blogging about no non-sense liberal ideas.

“Obama and the Tax Tipping Point How long before taxpayers are pushed too far? A core group of Obama enthusiasts — those educated professionals who applaud the “fairness” of their candidate’s tax plans — will soon see their $100,000-$150,000 incomes targeted. As entitlements expand and a self-interested majority votes, the higher tax brackets will kick in at lower levels down the ladder, all the way to households with a $75,000 income. Calculating how far society’s top earners can be pushed before they stop (or cut back on) producing is difficult. But the incentives are easy to see. Voters who benefit from government programs will push for higher tax rates on higher earners — at least until those who power the economy and create jobs and wealth stop working, stop investing, or move out of the country. The sequence is always the same. High-tax, big-spending policies force the economy to lose momentum. Then growth in government spending outstrips revenues. Fiscal and trade deficits soar. Public debt, excessive taxation and unemployment follow. The central bank tries to solve the problem by printing money. International competitiveness is lost and the currency depreciates. The system stagnates. And then a frightened electorate returns conservatives to power. The economic tides will not stand still while Washington experiments with European-type social democracy, even though the dollar’s role as the global reserve currency will buy some time. Our trademark competitive advantage will be lost, and once lost, it will be hard to regain. There are too many emerging economies focused on prosperity and not redistribution for the U.S. to easily recapture its role of global economic leader. Tomorrow’s children may come to question why their parents sold their birthright for a mess of “fairness” — whatever that will signify when jobs are scarce and American opportunity is no longer the envy of the world.” Written by Mr. Lerrick on Wall Street Journal. Mr. Lerrick is a professor of economics at Carnegie Mellon University and a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

George- Barack Obama is benefitting from your old boss Bill Clinton’s brand of the Democratic party and its track record. I have never ever heard Obama once acknowledge or celebrate Bill Clinton- and that is the reason that this lifelong Democrat and ardent admirer of the Clintons will be voting for John McCain. I also believe that a McCain presidency will provide some balance to a Democratic majority in Congress

Don’t forget Nobama promised to cut US defense and the Iran can deliver nuclear war head from a commercial ship. You and your family will be in real danger with Nobama-pelosi-Raid control US!

The democratic controlled congress has a 10%approval rating now. Lower than G W Bush. So you can Hope things are going to get better, but having lived through times of democratic control, your hope will turn into hopeless

Obama big spender….there are so many gross factual errors in your rant I just want to hang my head and cry. Educate yourself instead of just spouting nonsense….plllllease! It sounds like you’ve been injesting too many McCain/Palin sound bites. Diversify your information sources already….you sound delusional.

#3 — Democrats “United”: The McCain campaign will argue the nation needs a McCain administration to check a Congress led by Democrats House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Already Republican are running television ads in places like North Carolina where Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole is fighting against Democratic challenger, state Sen. Kay Hagan to hold onto her seat.
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In Texas, we have one Senator and a number of Representatives that are fighting for their reelections.
Their Democratic opponents are conducting very well financed and capable campaigns againist them. Now, these Democratic candidates are coming out with ads saying that McCain has given up on them and they seem to be effective. Muchas Gracias, Joe McCain.
But, assume McCain is elected and there is a Democratic congress, realistically, how much support can McCain now expect from the GOP congressional members?

Hey all you Barack Hussein Obama supporters. I’ve got some watches I’d like to sell you.

You’re basically selling out the American soul for free insurance. Obama is nothing but rhetoric—a charismatic guy who hangs out with biggots,(Rev Wright) criminals (a Syrian political ‘fixer’) and a domestic terrorist (Bill Ayers) With friends like that we don’t need enemies.

Posted by: Victor | Oct 24, 2008 1:35:40 PM
Obamas 3 campaigning points. 1. Distract from the truth 2. Trick voters 3. Lie
Victor, only that this is the exact prescribtion of the GOP tactics.
OBAMA means:
1. to talk about the issues
2. to inform Voters
3. to tell the truth.

The winning candidate IMHO has to make only one argument:
That one argument is to make the new mantra SAVE, BABY, SAVE!
Promise, to TURN BACK and restore America’s fiscally and monetarily conservative roots.
Promise, the electorate that you WILL turn back the Debt Clock!
Promise, that in the future no additional digits will ever again be needed to be added to the Debt Clock, near Times Square in New York City.
Promise, that an optimistic new society based on SAVING will arise.
Promise, that no longer will the prevailing mantra be that we will lower interest rates in ALL cases of national difficulty. Or, more honestly, in ALL cases of discomfort. Because high systemic debt is, in the long run, more than just uncomfortable. It is immoral to future generations. It is anti-life.
Promise, that even MORE debt will not always be the only solution to every problem.
Promise, that only in severe wartime national emergencies will Debt be increased.
Promise, that only Saving can build a sustainable, stable growth path into the future.
Promise, that a Culture of Debt is as intolerable to America as is the Culture of Death.
Promise, that a Culture of Saving is as necessary as is the Culture of Life.
Promise that we will save in good years to be able to spend in bad years.
Promise to depart from Squanderville, Spendsylvania and move to Thriftville, Savylvania!
Promise this, because we all know in our deepest heart of hearts, that America’s wellbeing and prosperity was as much established on a strong work ethic as it was on a strong propensity to SAVE.
We are all at fault. Our prevailing paradigm has finally failed us. It has failed the entire Western World. NO, it has failed the ENTIRE world.
We can no longer look to additional debt to save us or to help us FALSELY expand our economies. It was a mirage.
What is good for Joe the Plumber is good for all of us. And he knows how to save for a brighter future.
Promise, because Saving is good for the government too.
We must live within our means. There is no other stable approach.
By now, our broken-down and grievously harmful approach, over the last many decades, has finally shown its true face. Even the FED thought that it could play Social Engineer by bailing us out of every financial difficulty that it and we ever faced. The falseness of this approach has finally revealed itself.
All of us will be grateful for leadership that can promise to convince everyone to turn away from the false promise of Debt.
Let’s be honest – it was not just the lack of oversight or a badly administered monetary policy.
It was our own lack of humility and the same lack in our leadership.
America has a chance to show the world that it does not lack the leadership that the Whole World needs at this time.
She must, and will lead all of us into a brighter and more sustainable prosperity. There is no one else.

Baitcaster It is funny how you point out that the republicans held office for 6 of the 8 years and the first 6 were great but someone asked for change and we Pelosi, Reid, Franks…a congress majority of Dumbocrats and looked what happened.

Steve,
Don’t you have a job? Do they know all you do is post McCain/Palin crap for hours on end?
OBAMA ’08

Hey John McSame! Instead of telling everyone how bad Obama’s plan is, How about telling us how good your plan is. LOL When it comes down to the rubber hitting the road, the McCain plan is the McSame plan as the Bush plan!

These arguments are valid..this Ohio Dem is voting for McCain!!

Why doesn’t he try talking about his own ideas? Why is it all he can do is attack? Makes Americans think he has no agenda but to follow the path that Bush has laid.

Victor,
You are right about the correlation of maps. Those republicans must be doing something right if their policies are working in those states.

kimberlygwade first of all he has laid all his plans out and no one can find a problem with them. It is just that the Dems get on here stating Obama is the right on everything and we have to disagree. Another thing is because About Barack News or ABC does not report on McCain or Palin unless it has to do with what they are wearing. Were is the press talking about Biden and we need to be prepared for an International crisis if Obama is elected.

It’s amazing to me that the people who are voting for Obama, are all aware of the ugliness that is associated with the bi-racial candidate, and yet are willing to pass it all off. His policies show he’s a socialist (just won’t use those terms because they are “offensive”). He tries to tie any attacks against him as racist…excuse me, Obama, you can’t claim racism…you’re only half black…He won’t even prove he’s an American citizen by producing his birth certificate or admitting he gave up his rights as an American when he was adopted by an Indonesian (admittedly not his fault-he was too young, but he never applied for American citizenship when he was old enough to understand). What of our constitution that says a Presidential candidate must be a US citizen…if we don’t uphold the constitution at this juncture, maybe next election we’ll see Ahmadinejad on the ballot! Come on people, be careful, you may just get what you vote for. The messiah Obama is NOT!

I was going to write something to smash the bush lovers, but I am going to investigate the victor thread. The press makes it look like the republicans are at fault for everything.

Jane Illinois has the highest crime rate, unemployment and taxes. You can not blame any republicans because this state is ran by all Dumbocrats including Obama. I love how you liberals try to blame republicans for everything……Texas is doing well financially and is one of the most conservative states in the country. California is one of the most liberal states, and is literally screamingbegging and pleading for federal money to assist them with their budget crisis.As this campaign is so focused on our economic crisis, I wonder who I will choose. Such a hard decision to choose success over failure.

>>The hate and invective against an ordinary fellow citizen Joe is despicable and indicative of what the leftists and their supporters are all about these days.<<
Joe" an ordinary citizen?? Joe the Plumber is a crook (owes IRS back taxes), was a McCain plant, isn't even a licensed plumber, isn't even named Joe, doesn't make over $250,000 and does NOT represent small business owners. The REAL Joe would have help under Obama's tax plan as would 95% of small business owners. Why does McCain continue to beat a dead horse???
Just cannot understand how some people cannot see the truth even when they are hit in the head with it. VOTE OBAMA!

After listening to all the debates and interviews since, all I can say is that McCain/Palin are defensive, angry and full of hot air!! Not one interview have they given since the debate, has been about what their plan is to get us out of the mess that has been created, other than saying “I have the experience”, I’ve been there, done that attitude and Obama this and Obama that. Rolling of the eyes, bigh sighs and eyebrow raising seems a bit childish. You could tell he wanted to throw a tantrum. He says Obama is not ready to be president and implies he himself won’t be tested within the first 6 months if elected. How arrogant! Sorry McCain, Obama may not have “as much” experience as you claim to have, but I want a level headed, calm, collected man in the white house, someone who is not afraid of change, and someone who won’t start WW3 because of his temper!

After reading some of these comments about the cantidates tax plans, I have to say I don’t mind paying taxes. If it means I will have a better pool of employees to run my business, taxes will need to educate them. If I need health care coverage, taxes will provide it. If I need national security, taxes. Are you seeing a pattern here? America has fallen behind in the world. We need to pull ourselves back up and, like most things, it’s going to take some money. Don’t any of you ever think of anyone but yourselves?

Howaii dems just stopped free healthcare. National health care will have people see doctors with minor discomfort and overwhelm the health care system. Really sick people has to wait for a long time for critical care and may be fatal in waiting, all at the cost of 50% tax rate. Wake up Americans! Elect McCain/Palin who will stop Obama and Dems to force banks to lend Trillions of your money to the people who can not afford it and caused the current economic slow down. McCain/Palin will promote jobs and energy independence.

>>It’s amazing to me that the people who are voting for Obama, are all aware of the ugliness that is associated with the bi-racial candidate,<>Listen you coward, you can say anything you want about McCain but don’t you dare critisize his behavior as a POW<<
McCain was a singing canary during his POW time…ratted out the US plane bombinr routes to Hanoi. Get your facts straight. Vote OBAMA…an intelligent choice.

Just a few facts to make you think twice about Obama .
.I wonder why there was no talk of Obama and his spending …He spent 140,000 for his Greek Columns that were used on the convention night ..I wonder if they were donated to charity ?????? City of Chicago has a 4 million dollar deficit at this current time .i have 2 questions on that .With a deficit that big why on earth is Obama planning a 2 million dollar bash for election night where he may or may not be elected President?????
With a deficit like that and with Obamas major spending practices why do so many believe that Obama is the answer to our Economy ??????
Obama has spent more than 105 million dollars in a matter of 15 days yes thats correct 105 million dollars spent in the time frame of October 1-15 and this is the person that could be in charge of our economy ????? Wake up America .Don’t let your vote be bought or mislead by the mainstream media or as I call it the Obama Media

Tammy Very well said.

Joe The Voter posted:All I’m hearing from McCain is why I shouldn’t vote for Obama. McCain hasn’t yet convinced me of why I should vote for him. And the key word here is, “convinced”. He says he “knows” how to fix the economy, win the war in Iraq, and get Bin Laden, but he hasn’t convinced me. It sounds like BS to me.
This is my issue too. I have decided that I will vote for Mr Obama. However, given the way the McCain campaign has been run, I have lost all respect for him and the Republican party (and I am now a former Republican.) I would think and feel so much better about him IF for at least one (only one) speech he can layout his thoughts & plan without smear or scare tactics against the other side.

Carol K. even if you do not earn enough to be the one’s taxed you still know that it is wrong to take what is not yours. That does not make you a moron it makes you honest. I guess taking what belong to others is OK with you especially when it is anonymous. Instead of holding your hand out why don’t you try earning your keep? Stealing is stealing and no matter what spin you put on it, you still know it is wrong. It is you that has no scruples and a dishonest moron.

Posted by: Mack Oct 24, 2008 11:00:28 AM
My question is, how does being shot down, being held prisoner, and being tortured, which is a test of one’s character to survive, equate to being tested to handle national and international problems? I don’t see how the scars McCain says prove he is tested show that he is ready to make decisions on how to handle a rogue nation starting up nuclear weapon plants. The only people in the U.S. who can whether they have passed the tests to handle those situations are past presidents.
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Thank You Mack, who ever you are! I have been asking this question, and making the same comment/deduction for months.Senator McCain is due respect of course for his service and what he endured as any POW would, but that does NOT auto qualifiy him to be the leader of the Free World. He was more “out the war” than he “was in it” so what insight did he gain? The world has changed a lot since then.

fempharoh08 and Mack What experience does Obama have at all, except spending a million dollars a day in pork since he has been a Senator. You can not say he has experience running anything because look at the state of Illinois. Highest taxes, Highest unemployment (might be 2nd now to Michigan, I will check) and highest crime rate.

Texas is doing well financially and is one of the most conservative states in the country. California is one of the most liberal states, and is literally screamingbegging and pleading for federal money to assist them with their budget crisis.As this campaign is so focused on our economic crisis, I wonder who I will choose. Such a hard decision to choose success over failure.

That girl who said she was attacked at an ATM by a Black Obama supporter just admitted that she lied about the whole thing. Being reported on CNN.

WISDOM FIRST Please get some wisdom. The first 6 years with Bush and Republican ran congress everything was running great. The people asked for change and we got Pelosi, Reid, Franks and many more dumbocrats and look what happened. Just like Illinois and California ran by the dumbocrats and they are begging for help. Texas ran by republicans is doing just fine. No get some wisdom.

WISDOM FIRST and you can not blame the republicans for anything in Illinois because there is not one in office.

Liberal Press:
Just to put emphasis on your comment (mine are in caps):
Texas is doing well financially and is one of the most conservative states in the country. California is one of the most liberal states as well as ILLINOIS, NEW YORK and MICHIGAN, and they are literally screaming, begging and pleading for federal money to assist them with their budget crisis.
As this campaign is so focused on our economic crisis, I wonder who I will choose. Such a hard decision to choose success over failure.

bah Please try to prove one of my facts wrong about the States that are run by Democrats and the ones run by Republicans. They are facts and can not be disputed.

Steve Said :
The bottom line is he supported it. Republican control of congress at the time was irrelevant to the bill getting through because it was filibustered by the dems.
You are wrong – without a supermajority (60 votes) the bill couldn’t come to the floor. All dems voted against all republicans voted for.
???????????? Do you even know how our government works? COMMITTEE Steve. COMMITTEE. 11 Republicans and 9 Democrats. You don’t filibuster in committee. There isn’t a super majority of 60 votes. Total of 20 people in the committee. Simple majority need – that’s 11. Why, that is the number of Republicans. All of them vote yes and the bill would come to the floor. BUT IT DIDN’T HAPPEN. No filibuster, no super majority. It didn’t come to the floor. Please research how a bill becomes law BEFORE posting this nonsense.

sorry liberal press. real cogent facts would be totally wasted upon your obviously limited and extremely biased “intellect”.
you just have fun living up there in your own private idaho (but be ready to pay up on your taxes come april 15th ok?)

look no matter how you twist and turn it the bill passed the banking committee on a strict party line vote 11-9. With no democrat support it would have been a waste of time to bring the bill to a vote. whether it was an actual filibuster or a threat of a filibuster it died because no democrats supported it.

This is strictly a demo posting site. All of you sound like a bunch of idiots. Thanks but no thanks to Obama. Just remember if Obama is elected you did it I didn’t. What McCain says is real. I would have voted for Hillary but I would never vote for Obama since both Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton did not think he was ready to be president. Having a demo congress and pres is very scary. Wake up people whether you are black or white, asian or indian, think. Don’t voter just because this man is black and you will be a part of history. This could just be a bad part of history. I say think and vote smart.

What exactly is weak about this reasoning? The only salient point here is that this bill, that could have mitigated the crisis, died because it had no democrat support.

bah That is not proving any of my facts wrong!!! Please try to prove one of my facts wrong. Texas is doing well financially and is one of the most conservative states in the country. California is one of the most liberal states as well as ILLINOIS, NEW YORK and MICHIGAN, and they are literally screaming, begging and pleading for federal money to assist them with their budget crisis.
As this campaign is so focused on our economic crisis, I wonder who I will choose. Such a hard decision to choose success over failure.

bah…do you work in the United States? or are you another foriegner trying to get Obama elected. Just a question no offense meant.

Hey McCain…it went from a fundamentally sound economy to the worst crisis since WW II in a few days. Wow, what happened that made this huge difference? Oh, I see,…McCain was talking out of his rear again, not knowing what he was talking about. And where’s Palin the transparent one…being the surrogate liar

Additionally, just last month, Palin was at her church, the Wasilla Bible Church, to attend a speech by David Brickner, the Executive Director of Jews for Jesus. During the speech, Brickner described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God’s “judgment of unbelief” of Jews who haven’t embraced Christianity.
If she is such a supporter of Israel, why didn’t she condemn Brickner’s speech?

Independent Obama Supporter I will ask you do you work in the United States or are you a foreigner pushing for Obama. No disrepect but most of the liberals on these blogs are foreigners and should not be posting.

I looked in the same place you did, govtrack. The bill went nowhere because it had no democrat support.
I don’t see where I am incorrect or how you proved me wrong. In order to pass it would have needed 60 votes. With no democrat support it didn’t come to vote and was killed.

Independent Obama Supporter Did you realize by my last post about all the states ran by democrats. Now let put this in. Bush first 6 years were great then people wanted change and we got Pelosi, Reid, Franks…and many more dumbocrats and looked what happened. There is a one thing in common and it is Far left liberals.

Independent Obama Supporter….You can not find one of my facts wrong so you have to bring up grade point averages. I wish you could come of with something, maybe you should talk about Palins wardrobe.

I know McCain hates to see this country go down the tubes as much as I. It seems a certain group with their heads in the sand want to be led by a junior senator with no understanding of foreign policy or economics, and this nitwit says we should attack Pakistan , a nuclear ally. And then he wants to go to Iran and make peace with a terrorist who says he’s going to destroy us. �While he’s doing that, he wants to give Iraq to al Qaeda, Afghanistan to the Taliban, Israel to th e Pale stinians, and your money to the IRS so the government can give welfare to illegal aliens, who he will make into citizens, so they can vote to re-elect him. �He also thinks it’s okay for Iran to have nuclear weapons, and we should stop our foreign aid to Israel . �Did you sleep through high school?
I guess he’s still in Hawaii or wherever trying to get some ID to use for the lawsuit that is against him and he and DNC haven’t dealt with yet. OH BUT THAT IS A SECRET THE MEDIA IS HIDING FOR HIM.

Bob: Since paying taxes is considered stealing to you then I think it would be very appropriate that all the benefits that the American Taxpayers get should now be disallowed for you. Since you do not want to be “stolen” from then you need to stay off of all Tax financed roads, communication systems, school systems, Universities, electricity provided by damns, unemployment benefits, emergency services, national defense, housing inspections that protect your safety and home, etc, etc, etc. Find a hole in the ground and live there. I might be free of charge. Go for it.

Judy very well put!!!

Steve, I think McCain/Palin should do a commercial with the Fannie/Freddie letters/bill; superimposed on the TV screen, with key elements such as “taxpayer protection,” “Fannie & Freddie out of control” “Barney Frank,,,do something” etc
Then show the names that signed it; “McCain’s included
This, “Not naming name BS has got to stop. Barak Obama had a chance to sign onto that bill, but he was out real-estate shopping that day.
McCain warned congress and the senate about the GSE’s (Govt service enterprieses); ie, Freddie & Fannie, and he’s letting them beat him up at his own game!
Who the heck is running his campaign??
Joe the Plumber was a good start, but c’mon John, take the damn gloves off!!

Does anybody get the feeling that the conservative movement is putting their collective fingers in their ears and humming whenever somebody tells them something they don’t want to hear?
Obama’s birth certificate is freely available on the web for anybody who wants to go look at it.
He hasn’t proposed anything more “socialist” than existed under Chairman Reagan.
His treatment of race relations has been brilliant, transformative and even-handed, as evidenced by the speech in which he denounced the divisive remarks of Rev. Wright.
The “terrorist” that he’s accused of “palling” with is an accredited education reformer who has worked tirelessly with both conservatives and liberals, and who has been honored by the community for his efforts.
And yet, the lies keep coming, repeated endlessly, as if they had never been debunked. It’s eerily Orwellian.
Repeating something that’s not true does not make it any truer! Please, buy a clue! And invest in some punctuation while you’re at it. You make my head hurt.

Yukon Sam : Spread the wealth around is as socialist as you can get. He did not denounce Rev. Wright until the pressure got to great and he had to to get nominated . He does not feel that way at heart. Bill Ayres is a domestic terrorists who bombed American buildings he should have been in jail and executed for treason

batesba74, ummm i think you have this election thing all wrong .
your vote = 1 vote
so since you arent able to figure it out i will help you out here….listen up!! you will have a new liberal president ,one way or the other for the next 4-12 years. so just get ready to pay your taxes on april 15th ok?
my sage advice to you:
youd better be
A)packing for haiti
or
B)saving up for your new obama/democrat provided tax hike
or
C) planning how to spend your obama/democrat provided tax cut.
i would suggest choice A, but then again i dont like or approve of republicans and would rather they all moved somewhere else personally…

Batesbaba74: Obama did not lie about any of them. He gave you his truth and you chose not to believe him. The only truth that you want to hear is your own truth and your truth does not make it true. Your arguments and continued pushing of these associatations has not shown to have any affect on Obama whatsoever and in fact has been shown, by his actions, to have had an opposite affect. And please do show more sources for your argument than the one biased one that you have used. The site you have pointed out is a hole in the ground with no better sources then your own. All speculative and insinuating with no real facts.

Judy said “…and this nitwit says we should attack Pakistan , a nuclear ally.” Judy, that’s not a nice thing to say about Palin.

Steve posted ” I looked in the same place you did, govtrack. The bill went nowhere because it had no democrat support.” And exactly where on that site did it say this?????
Where you were wrong? First you said “Republican control of congress at the time was irrelevant to the bill getting through because it was filibustered by the dems. ” But there wasn’t any filibuster. It NEVER HAPPENED.
Then Steve also posted “You are wrong – without a supermajority (60 votes) the bill couldn’t come to the floor.”
Once again, you were WRONG. It needed a simple majority of 11 votes, not a super majority of 60.
Have shown you wrong on both counts you then accused me of twisting things and then changed your entire premise. The new version has the bill stuck in committee because the Republicans knew it would never have passed. Do you have proof of this? Right now it is only conjecture on your part. If this bill was so important you would think the Republicans would have brought it to the floor. Then if the Democrats really blocked it they could then point the finger at them (just like you’re trying to do) and it would be on record. But no, that never happened.

Do you know who is the founder of factcheck.org?

I want to start off by saying that I make considerably less than $250k line that has been talked about. My problem is…why should I believe that Barack Obama will give us a tax cut when he has NEVER supported tax cuts in his entire political career? Even if he did do something he never did before and give the tax cut he proposes, I would much rather keep my job than get a few hundred dollars more on my refund (and why is my “hard earned” money being given as a tax credit check to the welfare class that don’t pay taxes and refuse to get a job).
Finally, Obama’s tax hikes on businesses making 250K or more will be IMMEDIATELY transferred to the costumer which means more money comes out of my “middle class” pocket. I can see more businesses closing and more people losing jobs with this strategy. To me… Obama’s tax plan sounds terrible and appears to be socialistic with an agenda of taking care of welfare recipients (not surprisingly a group that is strongly represented by minorities). I think Obama’s plan will further push the American economy toward a depression.
I am not an economic guru… so I am open to hearing someone make sense or a logical argument against how I am seeing Obama’s plan. To me… the capitalistic system seems the best because it encourages new businesses. I think the problem was… we just had a bunch of greedy idiots running the government. When I say government…I am talking about George W. Bush and a “democratic controlled” Congress (with both republicans and democrats bearing the responsibility for this disastrous mess we are in).

Ok Michael: Let us help you along here. Yes, 250K is the point at which entities would pay higher taxes and initially you might see the so-called cost increase in products and services to the buying public but a some point here, with a bottom-up economic plan instead of a trickle-down plan business will have a greater chance to see more of the products and services being bought by a economically empowered population. As soon as sales increase then competition will than increase with a need to lower prices again to maintain better sales. Pretty basic, but pretty straight forward. Trickle-down economics does not work because of the “greed” factor. The more I get the more I want and the less I want to help others. There are too many well-off elitists who have this opinion and too few who do follow helping others when they have more than they need. So, help the greater masses have a greater ability to buy the business’s product and what do you have, real capitalism for the masses, not just the few.

as many here have written…
The McCain plan is:
1) Attack Obama
2) Attack Obama
3) Attack Obama
Yup, sounds like a surefire plan. It’s so full of vision, of looking forward, of seeing a shared future for Americans. McNot! Well… on second thought, the “attack” part of his plan seems to indicate he definite leanings towards countries that don’t currently agree with our administration.

What are ya gonna do if Obama wins??

dlboggen; Trickle up Unemployment is more like it!
I mean, nobody goes into business to lose money!
Under your true perception of the Obama plan, you have to ask yourself; “what’s in it for investors?”
Now I know your gut is saying, “screw the investors” but you must consider that investors play a vital role in our economy! They provide seed money for start-up’s which ultimately creates jobs!
No matter how much Barak says he’ll get away from international agreements; “the cat’s outta the bag!” Investors can go global, just as corporations can.
The jobs tha Americans do really arn’t so different from those done in China, India or Bangladesh. Trust me, I’ve been there!
So as you think the apple will get riper from the root, up; please also consider that it can rot and whither on the branch much more easilly under Obama’s plan, for the simple fact that we have a global economy!
His plan may have worked in the 1950′s, but you’re eluding yourself to think it’ll work in 2010.
My job, your job will go elsewhere with an Obama presidency, and democratic control of both houses.
“What do they care,,,,they have jobs!!”

planewizard…you are stupid.like most republicans…
read and learn …after the new laws that the democratic controlled government will make (that REWARD businesses who stay here and employ americans and HEAVILY PENALIZE businesses that leave and employ foreigners) ,the overseas businesses will come FLOCKING BACK TO THE USA ,or they will pay 5000% tariffs to imports good here.
any business that DOES leave and try that republican era strategy will be very very very sorry ,financially as well as personally.
see, you are a simpleton. shhhh. thanks

Colin Powell has given all the McCain ticked-off Republican’s cover to endorse Obama. The drumbeat of Republican rats jumping off the McCain ship will happen faster than the launch of a A7 Skyhawk off an aircraft carrier.

Recently I received the following from U.S. Senator John Cornyn: “I am proud of Texas and all Texans. Make no mistake, these are hard times for many Americans, but Texans continue to stay optimistic, employers are adding jobs, our unemployment rate remains low, and we continue to maintain a strong economy.” As a proud Texan I agree! Look at a map of the 2004 election. Although the economy is down in many places generally the states that are the worse off are the “blue” states. Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason why so many middle class people in the “blue” states are hurting economically is not because of George Bush’s policies but because those states are already following Senator Obama’s socialist, pro-union, anti-business, tax and spent policies that he wants to force upon the whole country?

It’s official! Barack Obama was indeed a member of the socialist New Party when he first ran for the Illinois State Senate in 1996. The Obama organization and the socialist ‘New Party’ have systematically attempted to cover up any ties between Obama and socialist organizations. However, it now appears that Barack Obama was indeed a certified and acknowledged member of the socialist New Party. A November 1996 editorial in the socialist journal “Progressive Populist” mentions that “New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.” Check it out for yourselves at http://www.populist.com/11.96.Edit.html. How many other things is he hiding from us?

Since 2006 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have sat by and did nothing as our economy headed toward this crisis in hope that it would help get Hillary elected President. Opps. Suddenly they realized that they have all these problems and a candidate who is totally incapable of fixing them. The current Congress has half the approval rating of President Bush but they expect their numbers to grow. Amazing. Let’s face it. It has not been in this Congress’ self interest to actually help improve the economy. Democrats know that when the economy goes bad Americans incorrectly blame the President, when in actuality the President cannot spend, tax, or borrow a single dime without the approval of Congress. In 2006 the Democrats promised us change if we gave them control of Congress. We did and look at what has happened since. Are you better off now than you were two years ago?

Planewizard: You sound like a true trickle-down supporter. I am also a dis-believer in the flat-earth opinion also. Both trickle-down and flat-earth policies create huge disparities across many parts of the world at the cost of millions of peoples quality of life for the benefit of a few very powerful companies and entities. Not only do these entities take jobs from countries or locations that need jobs but take full advantage of the poor these poorly developed areas with little or no protection from the atrocities that these entities and governments apply to them. There are many better ways to apply this “flat-earth” policy but presently it just sucks at the worst and hurts us all. As for your argument about investors, which I would guess you are more invested then the average, the greater percentage of investors have no idea where or how their investments are being used. Most people have there investments in large funds or 401k’s that give little insight into that usage. They actually could care less and let the fund managers take care of that for them leaving, again, just a few to decide how to use the investors investments anyway they feel good about as long as the bottom lines are maximized at whatever costs. I have seen a huge disregard of local economies starting in small cities, through large regions and into whole countries. The corporations do not have patriotism as a measurement of their regards to the companies ethics. Why are corporations who by law considered entities and not held to the same standards that the individual is held to. Are we not identified as non-patriotic by many who differ with us. Whatever happened to being socially responsible to your local communities and to the environment and to the fact that is people that make a company successful, not just the investor. One cannot easily survive without the other. Thus, in all things, balance will be required to prevent conflict between competing needs. Too much power in either direction can potentially bring disaster for both. In this case, the neo-cons and the corporatists have pushed too far against the needs of people and the pendulum is moving back in the other direction. A correction is taking place and balance can and will be achieved so that there are far fewer losers and elitists and a greater number of winners, I.E. the middle class. Again, balance will be achieved, no matter how hard either you or I push to make it otherwise. Please do go with your ideas but make sure that you don’t shoot yourself in the foot pushing too hard for the elitist few. If you want to make a difference than be part of the solution and not part of the problem. Get involved, run for office, vote, and make a constructive difference. Is that not what we all want?

bottom line 1.
bush in oval office for 8 years w/veto power. given
bush vetoes how many bills in 8 years? …waiting
ok new tack. bottom line 2.
republican have majorities in the house and senate for over 8 years.given.
question: which laws did the bad old (minority)democrats force upon the upstanding innocent republicans that have led us all to where this country is at present,ie; in tatters??
(oh ,and i realize the democrats have been in power for 2 whole years ,so they did all this? what laws or legislation did they pass ? please refer to bottom line 1 please for clarification )
bottom line 3.
tax wise ,basically there are 2 ways to go for the new president,ie;
tax cuts or tax increases ?
A)11 trillion dollar national debt . given.
B)taxpayer funded corporate welfare and bank nationalization = unprecedented .given
1)proposal for tax cut = hasnt worked yet ,doesnt look much like it will , and pssst dont look now but THE COUNTRY IS IN RUINS (except for the elite 2-5% richest who have been lapping up the gravy for the past 8 years)
2)proposal for tax increase (only on the richest sector,who can definitely afford it) = raises revenue for government use and puts spending money in the pockets of people who will use/spend it ,(and NOT put it in some offshore or swiss bank account, which dear readers is a GIGANTIC ICEBERG OF A SILENT FESTERING REPUBLICAN BRED PROBLEM THAT OBAMA/WE LIBERALS WILL TAKE CARE OF PRONTO…)FROZEN INTERNATIONAL BANK ACCOUNTS = MORE TAX DOLLARS
Bwhahahaaha…i cannot wait!

A couple of years ago I was driving through Greensboro NC listening to talk radio. The subject was poverty. A caller complained the “the rich just get richer and the poor just get poorer.” The host then mused “do you think it might be because both keep doing the same things that got them there in the first place?” That thought has kind of stuck with me.

nin – So you know Joe’s a PLANT, eh? Once again, please take a deep breath and think about what you are reading or writing…I don’t care if Joe was a high-tech robotic android-man built by John McCain himself!! It is Obama’s RESPONSE that is so telling and important in this instance, in my humble opinion.

profossorj: You missed the whole point. The minority of people in the financial positons are relatively few in comparison to what was the middle class. The middle class, both Democrat, Republican and other parties make up the Middle class. As the Rich get richer the middle class seems to disappear and become the so-called poor. That could, some day, mean you too if we don’t make the changes necessary to bring balance and power to the people, for the people an of the people, not just the few elite rich. And, I am sure you are not one of the rich ones but you sure as easily could be come one of the poor ones. Have an interesting future.

dlboggan You’re absolutely. I was very poor and worked hard to get an education and make a good living. I belive that with a reasonable amount of help most people can do the same. In America we believe in equal opportunity. We have free public education through high school but over 30% of our students blow that opportunity by dropping out and then whine that they can’t make a living and no one will give them a chance.

dlboggan You argument smacks of the same class warfare that Karl Marx wrote about. Did you need to quote him on anything? I believe more in Adam Smith’s economy philosophy.

professorj, you talk about marxist class warfare.
there will definitely be some class warfare one day in the future if the status quo isnt changed politically.
read up on some history, it WILL happen if the country keeps going in such a patently and blatantly unfair and illogical direction.
its already happening to some degree now and the rich cage themselves in 24/7 security guard filled gated communities ,for good reason.
still ,they have to leave their fortresses sometimes and then they are terrified to the point of carrying guns constantly to protect themselves against the very sector they and their elitist priorities have either ignored or used and abused ,directly or indirectly as it were. i dont blame a dog that bites when someone kicks it ,or a dog that bites when it is abused. muse on that.
remember this too, if you make over $75 k a year , you are in the large MINORITY of citizens.
that means that if there IS class warfare, you will have many more people coming after you than you will have helping you. muse on that.

bah Unlike you and Father Obama not everyone who makes less than $75K believes that it is right to steal from those who make more than them. I sincerely hope our nation never again faces a civil war but if we do it would be the liberals against the conservatives, so try to remember who has all the guns.

elitists are outnumbered 95 to 5…hmmm i hope you have lots of ammo and can reload instantly.
and i hope you can see in the dark too. your power will be the first to go, then your water. then ,well its just a matter of time ,after your house gets set on fire,youll come out and then… muse muse muse…

Bah Do you mean elitists like Barack Obama? Remember even Jesse Jackson said he talks down to people.

taxation is done at the government level ,not the personal level.
your story about the waitress only confirms what every working american knows,ie; fat cat elitist republicans are crass and low brow with no idea what morals or ethics means. i hope that waitress gets a new job at a new restaurant and sees that guy order something. “ONE SPECIAL SAUCE ,COMIN UP!”
rofl!!
and hard earned money? youve got to be kidding me, i am 48 and i have NEVER seen a republican who made more than $35k pre year work an honest day in my life. they are all takers and thats one reason, for example health care is so crappy, everyone gets into the field because of the money they expect to make ,not because they want to actually help people.
now try looking up the hippocratic oath. done yet? no where does it mention making a profit off of sick people, rather it requires ethical behavior ,both from drs and assistants . that means treating a patient even if the patient cant afford it , and giving every patient equal care.
republican elitist agenda is the ONLY reason that the health care industry and the insurance industry are allowed and in fact are reaming the american public of billions of dollars that are going to hospital company shareholders ,ie; fat cat republicans.
republicans and their twisted ideals are predominantly disgustingly sickening and one day i hope and pray ,a bigger power will make you republican maggots know what little stinky turds you really are.

Comments on some comments… I too served in Viet Nam, I too flew combat missions there, I too was shot down on a combat mission, I too received the Purple Heart, I too received a Distinguished Flying Cross … if you think that qualifies McCain for anything then extend the thought and vote for me instead, all the while knowing I will vote for Obama.
My most serious concern about McCain is his chest puffing, saber rattling response to various world hot spots and crisis situations. Isn’t the lesser of two evils talking to hostile world leaders rather than lobbing nukes here and there. Temper driven children sulk and fail to at least try to talk out their differences.

Dam Bah, I hope you have a sunny day tomorrow ….

southernvet, you should fear Obama is going to weaken US within. Don’t forget Nobama promised to cut US defense and the Iran can deliver nuclear war head from a commercial ship. You and your family will be in real danger with Nobama-pelosi-Raid control US!
Obama also proposed Global Poverty Tax of 50 Billion Dollars per year to spread your money to the corrupted UN. He also spread your money to his wife’s employer who doubled her salary to &300,000.00. He also spread your money to ACORN that is involved in voter fraud and housing crisis. He worked as community communist revolutionary organizer started by revolutionary Soul Alansky who proposed communist movement from bottom up and slowly working within the system to change to communist.

Bah, not every conservatives are white. I am colored but I knew Nobama and all his racist friends (Wright, and Louis Farrakhan)will bring down this great nation no any terrorist could ever dread of. Nobama called his own grandma the typical white forks and that is how he thinks of all the whites. In his book and 1995 speech he wanted pay back time for him and his racist friends.
He thinks American is a down right mean country!

Doesn’t anyone else find it disgusting we are about to elect a smoker as President? When was the last time that happened? He goes on 60 minutes with his wife insisting he quite, but really he has been hiding it . Deceit is very much apart of that campaign. Honesty should start at the most basic levels.

BO is the great uniter, yet his campaign has been built around making as many divisions across as many lines as possible.
Race – anytime anything critical is said about the one, he himself, his campaign, the media or his supporters pull the race card. Ask Bill Clinton. Ask John Murtha. Bitter Americans.
Age – a major focus of his campaign and the media attention has been on McCain’s age and suppositions of “erratic” behavior. He’s too old and out of touch. He looks like “a doddery old uncle at a wedding”
Sex – the attacks on Sarah Palin are sexist period. She’s just as qualified as the one. If not more. The disgusting things said about her intelligence and readiness are 100% because she is a woman. If she was a man with the same credentials no way she’s treated this way. Caribou barbie is the press moniker for her.
Class – the one has waged class warfare by drawing a line in the sand and saying if you make (arbitrarily) 250 you are “wealthy” and will be targeted for higher taxes. He demonizes these people as if they are criminals for working hard and getting ahead.
Every endorsement he gets cites his ability to unite. I don’t see it. If anything his campaign has highlighted some really ugly divisions. This is the type of campaign he’s run and the media has facilitated it.

George Stephanopoulos, the Rush Limbaugh of the left. He was Bill Clinton’s advisor. Is there anyone dumb enough to think he’s an unbiased reporter? I don’t listen to Rush or George. I’m trying to find a journalist, not a party mouth piece.

WHY IS MSM NOT covering the actual voter fraud in OH by Obama Campaign people? Registering and ACTUALLY VOTING in OH when they DO NOT LIVE THERE! Who is telling them to do this???????
Story on – Palestra.net
Thirteen campaign workers for Barack Obama yesterday yanked their voter registrations and ballots in Ohio after being warned by a prosecutor that temporary residents can’t vote in the battleground state.
A dozen staffers – including Obama Ohio spokeswoman Olivia Alair and James Cadogan, who recently joined Team Obama – signed a form letter asking the Franklin County elections board to pull their names from the rolls.
The letter – a copy of which was obtained by palestra.net, a Fox News affiliate – came a day after prosecutor Ron O’Brien publicly urged out-of-state campaign workers for both Obama and John McCain to “examine your conscience” before the elections board beings begins opening absentee ballots today.
Earlier in the week, O’Brien spoke with lawyers for both camps and urged them to make sure their staffs met permanent-residency rules, or face possible felony charges.
Also pulling his ballot yesterday was Hofstra University grad Jake Smith, an Obama volunteer who had voted in Knox County, Ohio.
On Thursday, O’Brien cut a deal with 13 out-of-staters, including four from New York, who tossed out their already-cast ballots and admitted they didn’t meet residency requirements.

1) Who cares about Joe the plumber who owes back taxes and isn’t even a plumber. Joe the plumber would benefit from the Obama tax plan NOW. But McCain promotes a tax plan that will reward Joe for the business ‘he dreams of owning’? Joe must be dreaming of being a Wall Street banker, waiting for a government bailout.
2) All this talk about Obama being untested, just sounds like a bunch of angry warmongering. Just like Bush, McCain wants to stick out and pound his chest like King Kong daring anyone to mess with the USA. Well we already bombed, invaded and are fighting two wars that have wrecked our economy. Been there. Done that.
3) With respect to the possibility of having a democratically controlled presidency & congress – McCain has a good point. This is a valid argument. Unfortunately, McCain has flipped/flopped and changed his message so many times that the occasional real issues he mentions are no longer noticed. He spends so much time and energy with his RoboSleeze, ayers & acorn crap that he has drowned out any worthy ideas or thoughts. Sorry, but you are too little and too late.
We can summarize the winner of this election by paraphrasing Bill Clinton. Clinton stated that the BIGGER candidate always wins. Sorry McCain.

Why does Obama and his campaign carefully word his denial of the 832k to ACORN?
Someday everyone will figure out that he’s just like all the rest. They present us with a “feel good” nominee for president, so that we all feel like there is some kind of ‘hope’. Then they tax us and tax us and now Obama wants to take from the “rich” to pay the poor man that they have created with their insane schemes. This, while they bail out companies of CEOs who have made millions. Both Obama and McCain voted for the bailout, with barely if any provisions about nailing the CEOs and getting money back to the people it belongs to. And people fall for Obama because they have this ‘hope’ that the middle class and poor will finally get whats coming to them. Right.

Had to smile at the reference to worldnetdaily.com and the claim it has the “proof” about Obama. I had run across this site before, and intrigued at what I thought were some pretty far-out stories, I did some research. Turns out the driving force behind it has a background that isn’t exactly what anyone could call an impartial and analytical. Like many people, he has his own agenda, and there’s nothing wrong with that — what I learned about him didn’t indicate he’s evil, not at all.
To rely on this source is risky at best. Of course, I guess you could had supporting footnote references from the National Enquirer.

what is the role of citizine in order to have strong legislative?