More Mixed Messages from McCain?
Last night, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., tried to correct some of his more, er, angry and scared supporters, ones who seem to buy into the ludicrous myth that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is some sort of Muslim Manchurian candidate.
You can read more about McCain’s response HERE or Jonathan Martin from Politico has a good account HERE.
This morning in Philly, Obama thanked McCain.
"I want to acknowledge that Senator McCain tried to tone down the rhetoric yesterday at his town hall yesterday," Obama said, "and I appreciate his reminder that we can disagree while still being respectful of each other. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again – Senator McCain has served this country with honor, he deserves our thanks for that."
This was followed by an odd response from the McCain campaign, as if the GOP senator had not last night admirably tried to calm down a bizarrely agitated crowd.
“The tone of this election is not fueling voter outrage," said McCain spox Tucker Bounds, "it’s that Americans are frustrated knowing that Barack Obama’s plans to raise taxes during a down economy and his proposal for a trillion dollars in new government spending are the absolute wrong answers to our economic crisis."
What’s the reason for the mixed messages? Well, the McCain campaign has no intention of letting up on the same character attacks on Obama that have been met on the stump with angry supporters yelling "treason!" "terrorist!" and "kill him!" when McCain and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin invoke Obama’s name.
Palin yesterday in Cleveland said, "we’ve got to start connecting the dots between Barack Obama and some of his associations, some of the things he has done in the past, and more importantly, some of the things that he intends to do in the future, so that Americans will know clearly their choices. We’ll lay this out to American voters in the next couple of days.”
They’re kind of in a weird place, let’s say. They want to keep attacking Obama on these "associations," but they don’t want to be held responsible for the kinds of ugly reactions these attacks find on the trail from McCain-Palin supporters.
ABC News’ Imtiyaz Delawala, traveling with Palin, reports that a Palin supporter in Johnstown, Pa., today was holding a Curious George monkey doll on which he’d put an Obama sticker.
At a McCain event, as the crowd waited for McCain himself to arrive, Pastor Arnold Conrad of the Grace Evangelical Free Church of Davenport, Iowa, gave an invocation that included the following: "I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god—whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah—that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons. And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day."
You can hear the invocation — partly with audio only and partly with video — HERE.
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How does the MSM miss Obama’s extensive ties to ACORN? By closing its eyes, holding its nose and covering its ears
No wonder Stanley Kurtz has become a major target of Obamatron abuse. Back in May he wrote one of the first pieces exposing Obama deep roots in election fraudsters ACORN. Given this sort of lead, you would have thought the MSM would have been all over the story during the General Election. As Aerosmith would say, “Dream On”
Ironically the failure to report this story almost led to an astonishing act of political daylight robbery only last week in the US Senate. In fact Obama and the were sufficiently confident in their unparalleled ability to suppress the media that at a time when the American public were pissed about Government waste, they brazenly put a huge potentially multi-billion dollar payoff to ACORN in the Recovery Bill. Senate Republicans caught it and nixed it. How many times has this attempted grand larceny been reported by the Obama-loving MSM?
Posted by: OTown | October 11, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Sick people
Posted by: Danny Gorgievski | October 11, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
“There are plenty of people around the world who are praying to their god, be they Hindu, Buddah, or Allah, that (McCain’s) opponent wins.”
The sheer density of grammatical, semantic, and moral fail packed into this sentence is bewildering.
Posted by: Anna | October 11, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Kirsten Powers…
Do you really believe that dog will hunt… LOL… Do you think Harvard U, Columbia have not vetted Obama before alowing him to enter… do you KNOW anything about entry to an IVY league school… only idiots like Bush an Cheney get in because of family… well McCain graduated 894 out of 899 and Palin spent 6 years to get a degree in Journalism… I can understand your struggles esp when you obviously have alot in common with your shining republican stars… all the questions you have posed just reflect your ignorance… sorry, but you just dont get it…
Posted by: jB | October 11, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
What?
Republicans who want to do questionable things, but “not be held responsible” for their actions???
I am shocked! Shocked, i tell you!
Posted by: julie | October 11, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
The McCain/Palin debacle are desperate. They offer no viable plan to deal with the economy or help struggling families so they have resorted to back biting tactics. Perhaps their base is looking forward to holding on to their sense of superiority and delusion as they go without food, jobs or gas money. Does it make sense to go on a job interview and hurl names or eptithets at the other applicants? Perhaps their sense of entitlement worked in the 1940s but this is the 21st century.
Posted by: Puat | October 11, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
I understand McCain’s perspective. He is a smart player. He is attacking Obama’s philosophical foundation at its source, those from the far left. He distinguishes that from Obama the man, a husband and father. I like McCain, he would have been a great President eight years ago. The real problem is the people on the right that are not able to restrain themselves and leap to extreme hatred. These people are dangerous and they need calm leadership. and ultimately, for those that was not cease and desist, they require stiff resistance. For this reason and this reason alone I support Obama but I will not hesitate to tear down Obama’s bogus philosophy, for those that want to reconcile the disparity.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 11, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
the only mixed messages being sent in this campaign is from abcnews
mccain/palin
change we can believe in
Posted by: krist | October 11, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
To Kirsten Powers,
At least come up with original language. Cutting and pasting from another source gives you zero creditbility.
Posted by: Puat | October 11, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Now that most Democrats and even some Republicans are calling for more regulation of Wall Street’s investment and banking industries, it seems fair to recall Sen. John McCain’s ethics violation early in his Senate career during an era of banking regulation. McCain’s violation then concerned his attempts to assist a savings and loan avoid government regulations. We need to remember that just as deregulation can lead to the sort of problems we face in today’s topsy-turvy economy, so too does regulation spawn its own sort of problems. After all, investors hate any government rule that encumbers their pursuit of wealth and tend to use their political chits to bypass federal rules whenever they can.
“Lincoln Savings and Loan” probably rings few memory bells today among those of us interested in politics, but its former bank president’s role in using campaign contributions to gain favor from the Republican Party presidential nominee, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz., merits resurrection as a cautionary tale of corruption.
Charles Keating Jr., the president of the now-defunct Lincoln Savings and Loan, was an Arizonan and major financial backer of John McCain during the senator’s early years of public service. In the late 1980s Keating needed McCain to help get federal regulators off the back of his Lincoln Savings and Loan. McCain obliged by meeting secretly with highnranking officials of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board. The senator had been indebted to Keating for major campaign contributions ever since he first ran for a seat in the House of Representatives in 1982. McCain had received $11,000 from Keating in that year, and when McCain ran first for the Senate in 1986, Keating and his associates funneled $50,000 to McCain’s campaign.
There followed several paid trips for McCain by Keating to the banker’s luxurious vacation home in the Bahamas and also an attempt by McCain’s senatorial mentor, Dennis DeConcini, also of Arizona, to persuade President Reagan to name Keating as U.S. ambassador to the Bahamas.
These tawdry details of favors-for-money came to light in late 1990 during a Senate Ethics Committee investigation into the “Keating Five,” a cabal of influential senators that besides McCain included four Democrats: Alan Cranston of California, Donald Riegle of Michigan, DeConcini, and John Glenn of Ohio. In total these five senators received a total of $300,000 in campaign contributions from Keating.
Posted by: d | October 11, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
We all know who John McCain is, we know of his younger days in the Navy, his time in captivity, his years in Senate, some of them not so good for his reputation, his flinging with women his houses, his cars his grades at annapolis, how many planes he crashed, his hot temper and his reputation of working with the opposite side to the chagrin of some of his supporters. Yet, we know nothing of Obamas college days in New york, how and who paid for his Harvard Education or exactly his accomplishments as a community activist. And other what he wants us to know in his books there are not many people that I have heard talk of all these periods of time. Character should mean something to all of us and I am not suggesting his friendship with black nationalist such as Wright or a man who use to be named Don Sutton or even his freindship with Mr. Ayers is any of my business but we are all judged, whether fair or not, by the company we keep.
Posted by: david | October 11, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
“that the pastor’s invocation included the following: “there are plenty of people around the world who are praying to their god, be they Hindu, Buddah, or Allah, that (McCain’s) opponent wins. I pray that you step forward and honor your own name.”
This is sick and I am offened by this. As a Christian I pray that we make the correct decision weather it be McCain or Obama.
I know I have a decision to make, and I have made mine, but I know that I am fallible, don’t hold all the truth, nor all the knowledge.
Posted by: Thinking | October 11, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
david…
Yo are right… we are… McCain voted for Bush an his policies 90% of the time… That scares me the most… I cannot afford luxury food items and my son has to go to a state school because my business is no longer doing well and money soo tight… its the economy stupid… not Ayers or Wright…
Posted by: jB | October 11, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
america will resoundly thump Palin
and hopefully forgive Mccain for the lapse.
this woman needs to read a book on domestic terrorism because the values and rallies that she is putting out there…
are the seeds of some of our worst terrorists.
and anyone trying to defend her on this is not looking at history.
Palin will bring the entire republican party down with her.
Ignorance matched with misinformation and fanning the flames of anger…
= and American disaster that is anything but American.
Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
My frieds they are not allowing me to post a video of someone promoting someone
Posted by: arial | October 11, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
This is the problem with Mccain …
he makes a disastrous mistake and then realizes it.
His face yesterday…was that of the old McCain…stuck in a world and amongst people he really doesn’t want to be with.
You could see it in his face.
Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Kirsten Powers:
You either know nothing about the American legal system or you’re intentionally trying to mislead people. That “order” you just posted is a PROPOSED Order that the Plaintiff in a frivolous lawsuit challenging Obama’s citizenship filed.
It has NOT been signed by the judge.
It does NOT represent any findings by a court of law.
It does NOT mean that the judge will order any of those things.
It IS only a Proposed Order and nothing more; plaintiffs and defendants file such proposed orders everyday in courts of law across the country. They are purposely drafted to reflect favorably on their side. Sometimes the judge simply takes the proposed order and signs his name to it but that usually only happens if both sides agree. In the vast majority of cases, the judge drafts his own order.
Only one order has been issued by the judge in Berg v. Obama, et al., and it is an order DENYING Berg’s attempt to restrain Obama from running for president.
The case is frivolous; get over it. If Obama had faked his Hawaiian birth certificate, the state of Hawaii would have something to say about it, don’t you think?
Posted by: pgbsan | October 11, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
I love that Sarah Palin wants to talk about ‘questionable associations’.
Her scariest questionable association is HERSELF.
PALIN = CORRUPT
McCAIN = RECKLESS
McCAIN/PALIN = FAIL
Posted by: Ed from MA | October 11, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
You reap what you sow…
What has become the Church of the Angry Base the McCain/Palin revival is showing it’s true colors. Rev. John and the Deacon of Deception (Palin) have promoted anger to advance their cause. Now the Rev. has seen the light of hate he’s exposed within the ranks of his blind followers. He needs to dim the spotlight exposing his soul!
Posted by: Kim | October 11, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Character should mean something to all of us and I am not suggesting his friendship with black nationalist such as Wright or a man who use to be named Don Sutton or even his freindship with Mr. Ayers is any of my business but we are all judged, whether fair or not, by the company we keep.
Posted by: david
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Yes David, character should mean something
and neither are going to be Mother Theresa followers.
BTW, does G.Gorden Liddy ring a bell, if not , being
one of the Keating 5 should make character a
none issue in this debate.
should
Posted by: spacerook1 | October 11, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Or maybe McCain just has a little more class than Palin. I am very impressed on how he came out so strongly for decency.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Are we so dumb that we cannot see that the McCain camp is desperate. McCain stirs up hatred, then attempts to calm peoples hate filled reactions, then his campaign tries to create more hatred.
Most of us know that Obama is a loving family man, who just happens to be Christian with a strange sounding name.
I have a gut feeling that some people will not vote for him ONLY because of his race. Pity.
Posted by: John in Hartford | October 11, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
THIS one, for THAT one!!!
Posted by: Rita | October 11, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
You think that ACORN stuff is bad?
The latest story is that Barack Obama is nothing but a puppet of hideous insectoid aliens from the planet Voltron. Once he is elected the Earth will be easy to conquer, and we all be enslaved.
It’s true–I read it on the Internet!
Posted by: simon | October 11, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
true story: for a bit, some guys from the Howard Stern show took a microphone to a neighborhood to ask who people were supporting for President – if they supported obama, the interviewer asked if they approved of obama’s VP, sarah palin, and if they supported mccain, the interviewer asked if they approved of mccain’s VP, joe biden – each time, the voter agreed that their candidate’s choice of the opposing party’s vp was a good decision
Posted by: chris | October 11, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Discredited Republican voter-suppression expert Ken Blackwell has gone on TV lately with some wild accusations against Barack about a non-existent connection with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also known as ACORN.
The accusations have no basis in fact.
The truth is that Barack was never a community organizer or trainer for ACORN, and he was never employed by ACORN in any other capacity. ACORN was not part of the historic voter registration drive that Barack led.
Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
My friends,
SARAH PALIN IS CORRUPT.
JOHN McCAIN IS A GUTLESS, SPINELESS LOOSE CANNON.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BELONGS TO EXTREMIST NUTJOBS.
BARACK OBAMA WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.
Posted by: Ed from MA | October 11, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
to be more accurate, they only played 5 interviews, 4 of them supporting the obama/palin ticket, and 1 of them supporting the mccain/biden ticket
Posted by: chris | October 11, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Just a little tidbit of hope for Hillary/McCain supporters.
Via emails,blogs,etc.Hillary/McCain supporters have been told to tell pollsters they are voting for BO.
If that is true it seems to be working because once again BO is already measuring curtains for the White House.
Wouldn’t it be poetic justice if all those Hillary supporters that are still ticked w/the DNC and Obama ran up his poll numbers and gave him false hope only to see him lose on Nov4th?
Afterall he had ACORN on his side during the primaries too. And we still want Hillary to run in 2012.
Posted by: sam | October 11, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Tucker Bounds is idiot. How can he expect
adding fuel in burning fire, and expect the fire to be extinguished.
Sarah Palin and McCain are the ones
who are fueling the anger in people.
Posted by: FM | October 11, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
It’s getting really disgusting at these McCain/Palin rallies. And it is all their doing. Starting with Palin saying that Obama “pals around with terrorists”. They should be held completely responsible for all this anger and racism going on at their rallies because they caused it. I’m glad that McCain finally said something. But it’s too late. These people are angry and it’s really scary. McCain is truly dishonorable and Palin is even worse. The secret service needs to be aware of this. Disgusting.
Posted by: Leslie | October 11, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
McCain is torn between doing the right thing and running a respectful campaign and appeasing his right wing extremist supporters who are blinded by xenophobia.
Posted by: Joel Miller | October 11, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Tadpoles63
Because real journalists actually have to confirm their stories before printing them.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
The republican party will never be the same after this. It is fundamentally extremist, their true colors are showing. More racial and religious tolerant republicans will become Democrats and Independents.
The republicans have been covertly riding and grooming the race dragon since 1964 with their under the radar comments and actions…now it threatens to tear our country apart and undermine our politics.
A party that has based its self identity around disparaging, marginalizing, exploiting and scape goating a segment of its nation; is no more fit to rule America than the Nazi party was fit to rule Germany.
Now their true colors are coming to light, as they show us and the world what they are “really” all about…at their core.
Posted by: DJ | October 11, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
The case is frivolous; get over it. If Obama had faked his Hawaiian birth certificate, the state of Hawaii would have something to say about it, don’t you think?
Posted by: pgbsan
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Agree with you totally. And you wonder why
our judicial system is bogged down. It’s for
idiotic things like this. The idiot Lawyer who
probably graduated at the bottom of his class
at the Hoovesville College of Law is nothing
more than a political ambulance chaser.
Posted by: spacerook1 | October 11, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
To Kirsten Powers, who posted the excerpt from justia.com, “Defendant, Barack Hussein Obama is ORDERED to turn over the following documents by October 15, 2008 . . . .”
Kirsten, the document you quoted from is a PROPOSED order, a document that most jurisdictions require to be filed along with any motion.
It is NOT an order, or anything other than a piece of paper, unless and until it is signed by the presiding judge.
That proposed order has not been signed by Judge Surrick. Therefore, it is NOT an order — it is merely the document the attorney wants the judge to sign.
A lot of people have misunderstood this. In most jurisdictions a proposed order is required to be filed any time a party requests that a judge do anything.
Posted by: RLamb | October 11, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
to….tadpole63,
You’re in a little too deep…..breathe
Posted by: votor | October 11, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
sam
That makes absolutely no sense at all.
Why would anybody want to lie to pollsters, if it just means that they have to convince people that the polls were wrong because they were lying?
Why not just tell the truth and SHOW us what the percentages should be.
So what you are saying is:
“I lied so that I would have to later convince people that I lied.”
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
The campaign narrative for the next few days really needs to be on
Posted by: jon in maryland | October 11, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
I question Senator McCain’s judgment considering that he picked Palin for his ticket with the knowledge that she may be guilty in this abuse of power case. We do not want another Cheney in the White House.
Posted by: MaryJane | October 11, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Who cares who paid for Obama’s college. He’s a darn site smarter than most of these posters who are so upset that he is black, he is smart, he is married, he is successful, he is smart, he graduated from college, he is smart, and he cares about this country and he is smart.
Now about McCain. He graduated at almost the bottom of his class at the academy. He is not as smart as Obama. He is on his second wife. He is not as smart as Obama. To prove he is not as smart as Obama look who he chose for a running mate. Oh, gosh, golly gee, I’m just a maverick. I understand why his party is attacking Obama…they are embarrassed that McCain pulled the wool over their eyes and they have all stepped in cow pooh.
Posted by: dennis | October 11, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Rezko is singing like a bird.
But Obama thought jail had rehabilitated him.
And BHO didn’t know Tony was a crook when he took that sweetheart real estate deal–and wasted millions on slum apartments.
That Obama sure has a lot of dirty, shady friends.
Posted by: bailey | October 11, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
McCain has stoked the crazies and now he’s reaping the whirlwind. YOu can’t get a mod together and then tell them to be reasonable.
Posted by: bubba | October 11, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Just a little fact only 11% of hillary Clinton supporters havent got behind Barack Obama…
89# of former Clinton supporters Support Obama.
So its really stupid for you guys to go on about it!
PS Hillary is campaigning today for barack.
Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Kirsten Powers
We don’t have an “Oath of Allegiance” in this country. We are not quite that totalitarian yet.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
The racists are about to soil themselves over Obama. McCain thinks he can control them but he can’t, as he’s finding out.
They want the southern strategy and they want it now.
Posted by: memyself | October 11, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
McInsane is the arsonist trying to put out the fire he started. He’s a two-faced lying lunatic.
Posted by: Allen | October 11, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
If anything evil should grow from this agitation of the extreme right, God forbid, like an assassination attempt on Obama, Mcain, Palin and their campaign operatives should be treated as co-conspirators. As international courts have held in the past, you don’t need to be the one committing the violence, to incite the violence is enough.
Posted by: Jerry Reusch | October 11, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
The campaign narrative for the next few days really needs to be on:
1) The “Troopergate” report. It should be obvious to ANYONE at this point that Palin DID abuse her power as Governor, and that she did use her position – and Todd’s nonposition – to carry out a personal vendetta. THAT SAYS ENORMOUS THINGS ABOUT A PERSON’S CHARACTER.
2) Todd Palin’s membership in, and Sarah Palin’s association with the Alaska Independence Party. If Bubblehead is going to throw around accusations that Obama is “palling around with terrorists” – a blatant lie – WHY IN GOD’S NAME ISN’T HER INVOLVEMENT IN A SECESSIONIST ORGANIZATION ALL OVER THE NEWS?
3) Palin’s rampant dishonesty about – just about everything. This woman has the temerity to constantly go after Obama on honesty and integrity. Well, she’s been on the campaign trail what, like six weeks, and how many half lies and outright lies has she told? The bridge to nowhere (lie), the plane on ebay (half lie), divestment of Alaskan state funds from Sudanese investments (lie), the list goes on and on…
The campaign narrative is going to veer away from the stock market, because there is a sense of fatalism about it right now. Instead, we’ve been focused on McCain/Palin’s ugly rhetoric and rallies. That’s appropriate. But WHEN are we going to get around to really showing Bubblehead up for the lying, incompetent, petty neophyte she is?
Posted by: jon in maryland | October 11, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
two weeks. The bashing has gone on for two weeks. mccain and palin have pulled out all the stops, incited lynch mobs and battered at Obama.
Two weeks….and Obama”s poll numbers are the HIGHEST of the campaign. that should tell them something…that America is rejecting them and their message of bigotry and hate.
But, no….just can”t listen, can they? TWO WEEKS OF HATE, BIGOTRY, ANGER, SMEARS, LIES, BASHING, INSULTS…EVEN THREATS….AND HERE ARE THE RECORD BREAKING POLLS….OBAMA HAS EVEN GAINED SOME REPUBLICAN SUPPORT.
RCP Average 10/03 – 10/10 — 49.9 42.2 Obama +7.7
Rasmussen Tracking 10/08 – 10/10 3000 LV 52 45 Obama 7
Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking 10/08 – 10/10 1212 LV 48 44 Obama 4
Hotline/FD Tracking 10/08 – 10/10 808 LV 50 40 Obama 10
Newsweek 10/08 – 10/09 1035 RV 52 41 Obama 11
FOX News 10/08 – 10/09 900 RV 46 39 Obama 7
Gallup Tracking 10/07 – 10/09 2784 RV 51 41 Obama 10
GW/Battleground Tracking 10/06 – 10/09 800 LV 51 43 Obama 8
Three weeks to go…let’s see how high Mccain and palin can send Obama’s numbers. They did it to themselves….mccain has lost this with his own foolish, reckless and arrogant choices….erratic and dishonest john mccain. and lawbreaking and hateful palin.
Posted by: salem | October 11, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Hey Tapper,
Your statement “the ludicrous myth that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is some sort of Muslim Manchurian candidate,” just shows how much of a propagandist you are for the Obama and not a journalist. McCain supporters don’t believe this at all.
What we KNOW is that Obama is basically a socialist, he has PROVEN historical alliances with extremely left-wing people such as the former terrorist Ayers (whom Obama lied about concerning their close working relationship), the black separatist and America hater Wright (“God D*** America”), the convicted felon Rezko, the PLO supporter Khalidy, the voter-fraud thugs ACORN (whom Obama was a lawyer for and taught community activist tricks) and the Kenyan thug Odinga (whom Obama campaigned for, and who eventually instigated riots killing 1000 people and burning 800 churches).
Also Obama is a man with proven, ultra-liberal politics. If McCain doesn’t want to point out these things in his campaign, then he is a putz. But the American people have the right to be afraid of Obama the Socialist taking power with a sycophantic Democrat Congress!
Posted by: CAridge | October 11, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
“”A certified copy of Obama’s Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of
majority”"
??????? Who has EVER taken and Oath of Allegiance? Not the AMERICANS I know.
Poor delusional Rightees. No wonder McCain is worried.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | October 11, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
The right always make me giggle. They don’t beleive the news media, except for Fox and Limbaugh, but they believe anything and everything they read on the web. The more absurd it is the more credence they give to it.
The McCain/Palin saga is funnier than any SNI skit that I have seen in years. But the one thing that scares me about this pair is that they call themselves patriotic Americans. It is a very sad day for America.
Posted by: Dennis | October 11, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
NO, no drugs. I had never really heard of Obama until he decided to run. Like any concerned Educated American, I Do My Homework. You cannot believe Any politician just because he/she said so. You need to do research and find out where these people truly come from and what they believe in.
You need to educate yourself on their past before you can possibly make a determination on what they may do in the future.
Anyone can speak anything, but the Truth is what matters.
Uneducated and uninformed is a recipe for disaster. Do yourself and America a favor and go educate yourself on the facts before you vote.
Posted by: Tadpoles63 | October 11, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Palin abused her power.
AG Gonzalez abused his power.
Cheney abused his power.
GW Bush abused his power.
Funny how they all think they have a right to rule like monarchs once they have any power. Read the Constitution sometimes folks.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | October 11, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Allen:
Don’t start insulting Southerners. Other than Florida, rhis racist crap is spewing from people in northern and mid-western states. And as most southerners know, Florida is NOT inhabited by Southerners.
You people in the rest of the country really need to take along hard look at yourselves….
“THAT ONE” 08!!!
Posted by: fibbertijibbits | October 11, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Palin’s corrupt, McCain has lost his last ounce of honor, and their supporters are hateful and bigoted. We need a steady hand in these hard times.
Obama/Biden 08 country first.
Posted by: chris | October 11, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Most voters do not get all their information from just one source about a candidate. I do not consider Obama worthy of my vote and this opinion was formed after accessing and reading thousands of pages of information including the written and spoken words of Obama. He is dishonest, is a socialist and will bring utter choas to America. People better wake up soon. People are angry that the media and the Obama campaign are flooding the countryside with bogus and false information and promises. Truth should prevail and it does not. The democrats are responsible for our current economic mess with sub-prime mortgage loans but refuse to be accountable blaming it on the Bush Administration. Such a lie, a big lie.
Posted by: Marla | October 11, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
sam said:
“Just a little tidbit of hope for Hillary/McCain supporters.
Via emails,blogs,etc.Hillary/McCain supporters have been told to tell pollsters they are voting for BO.”
Wow, do you just pull different arguments out of your **** every week to convince yourself McCain’s actually winning?
This week it’s “Hillary/McCain supporters are lying to pollsters” argument.
Last week it was the Bradley Effect, which apparently is Obama’s lead + 3%.
What will it be next week I wonder?
Posted by: pgbsan | October 11, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has already stated: “There is no allegation or evidence of any wrong doing on Barack Obama’s part.”
Is there a new Prosecutor ?
Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Most Minnesotas are hungry for socialism. In 2006, they elected a Dem by 22%, Sen. Amy Klochochar. Now the lefties are coming out to McCain/Palin Rallies and yelling all kinds of stuff, knowing that it will be repeated by ABC, MSNBC, etc. The Left has been hanging Bush at all their rallies, but surely will squeal when the same happens to Obama when he invades out Nuclear Ally, Pakistan.
Posted by: Colonel Reb | October 11, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
McCain and Palin are playing an extremely dangerous game here. There ARE extremists out there who are taking the GOP rhetoric literally and as a license to indulge their rage. When all is said and done, they will have to acknowledge that they are co-conspirators in threats of violence against a political candidate for the presidency. If they do not walk their crowds down from this wretched ledge then they should be charged with incitement. “Attacking” the policies and ideological differences with an opponent, as Obama/Biden have done, is fair and appropriate. Publicly assasinating your opponent’s character and patriotism to stoke the rage of a mob has no place in our civil discourse. Shame on McCain and Palin for stooping so low, and double shame on them for pretending to be shocked at the “ferocity” of the monster they created, fed, and set loose. Forget the campaign: in my view they have disqualified themselves for public office, and should get about the business of recovering their souls.
Posted by: cameotoo | October 11, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
If you would like to talk about a Governor “abusing” their power, I would like to bring up the case of Obama’s buddy, Tim Kaine, the Governor of Virginia.
It appears that good old Tim Kaine, who for awhile had been touted as a possible V.P. pick for Obama, has been running around the state of Virginia “restoring” the voting rights of convicted felons as fast as he can so they can all go vote for his buddy Obama.
Does he have the legal power to do this as Governor? Probably.
Is it an “abuse” of that power? Definitely.
Wasn’t the finding language used in the tedious Troopergate report something to the effect of acts that were committed “in the interest of personal gain?”
Sounds like a case could be made here for good old Tim Kaine as well.
Posted by: SandyB | October 11, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
The Republican Party sold its soul to religious extremists. Hate the “libs.” Make our country moral! And today after 8 years of gross immorality America is fighting a preemptive war on two fronts bleeding Trillions of America’s future, fueling our economic chaos. Torture was choreographed by our military. In Iraq alone over 1 Million people have died as a result of this war, thousands of our beloved American soldiers. Meanwhile, $1 Billion was spent on failed “abstinence-only” birth control programs while the number of poor people in our country reached 12.5% and Middle Class jobs were exported overseas. American Christians are fed up with far-right zealots attempts to theocratize America and march us all toward Armageddon for the Rapture. Middle-of-the-Road Christians will be voting for a Democrat for the first time in decades.
Posted by: Idahogirl | October 11, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Only men need apply.
I wont vote for Obama because of his character assination of Clinton during the primary. Angry hacky sacker males lead the attack and are his primary supporters. Yuk.
Posted by: hhkeller | October 11, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
call me erratic, but for what he did and the way he did it, i can now understand why so many politicians think mccain is an honorable man, just like senator obama said, we all love is contributions to the united states. politics aside, i think senator john mccain has seen the err of is judgement and now wants to go down with his honor intact. and thats just me observation.. much respect.
Posted by: micheal .N. | October 11, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Just Obama support and past association with the ACORN group should make most rational people not vote for him.
He paid this group $800,000 just this year from compaign funds to try to drfraud the election process. Just this one action is far more criminal and severe than the Governor trying to get a drunk/abusive criminal man fired from a state job. He had a long list of bad behavior as reported by the state investigator–not the Palen family. The whole thing was a political ploy against the most popular and decent governor now serving. She stepped on the toes of the corrupt Democrats and Obama supporters. She also beat them in a state-wide election and still has a high popular rate of over 80%. Obama’s rate–less than 15% as a member of the senate.
Posted by: Mary | October 11, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Memo to the much too comfy or lazy press corps…
Aren’t we overdue for a sit-down with Sarah Palin about Troopergate, now that the report is out? Why are you folks just accepting dealing with her spokespeople, yet sloppily parroting what she says on the stump? Have you all lost your minds, or did we give you all too much credit for having them in the first place.
McCain, in this same speech, later attacked Obama on associations. So please wake up about what happened not even five minutes later on stage.
Why do I have to search for better information from sources with less resources than our major media to find things like this…
“You can’t work in school reform in this community without coming across Bill Ayers. He’s been involved in every area of Chicago reform going back 20 years now,” said Michael Klonsky, who has known Mr. Ayers since their days in the leftist group Students for a Democratic Society in the 1960s. Mr. Klonsky later founded the Small Schools Workshop at the University of Illinois at Chicago with him.
“Senator Obama would have to be a magician to not have ran into, or met, or sat in a meeting with Bill Ayers,” Mr. Klonsky said.
“that’s the difference between reporting and publishing” Michael Getler, Religion And Ethics Newsweekly.
The prsss used to care.
Now it appears to care much less.
Posted by: kravitz | October 11, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
There is a difference in character smears and pointing out the inconsistent and outright false statements from the Obama campaign and its candidate about Obama’s past, his associates, and the work of his supporters to organize voter fraud.
McCain is telling the truth. The truth is not a smear. He should not let up. He should press harder and to Obama’s face. Obama must be made to answer for these truths because otherwise we can never trust him in high office.
Posted by: len | October 11, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Mixed messges indeed! McCain asks “Who is Obama?” and his supporters reply “off with his head”. And then he gets points for trying to cool them off! Are these the “Christian”, America-loving supporters that we’re supposed to feel comfortable with? Are these examples of the people we should be happy to see leading our children into the next generation under a McCain presidency? Unlike Palin, I’ve travelled all over the world and know many Buddhists, Hindus, and yes, Muslims who are far more decent and respectful human beings than those who seem to like to gather at McCain rallies (and who no doubt identify themselves as “Christians”). God indeed help us if we stoop so low and then somehow pull off a victory!
Posted by: perumal11 | October 11, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
jake i believe that people (at least adults) of all persuasions are spooked over this economy, and yes panicked about who will who will step up and bring leadership and how will that leadership affect them. what i sense is happening is what therapist refer to as displaced anger.
if this anger is not expressed for fear of criticism or shame it will be suppressed only to manifest itself in a more pronounced manner at a later time.
Posted by: landsend | October 11, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
mccain and palin are both unethical in their ocnduct and unfit to lead anything.
Obama has won the minds and hearts of voters with his dignity and fairplay, and his discussion of issues.
This isn’t about nefarious conspiracies and space alien plots. WE SAW OBAMA AND BIDEN IN THEIR DEBATES, AND LIKED WHAT WE SAW. All of this trshy fabricated slander is NOT going to erase our memories or change our minds….only the gullible and uninformed might be swayed, and many of them don’t vote anyway.
So rage on, haters. You are helping Obama everyday…nobody wants to be like you. Nobody wants to be considered ignorant or uninformed or foolish or bigoted. So you drive voters to Obama with your astounding statements. Thanks, it is indeed helping him to win!
Posted by: salem | October 11, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Tucker Bounds, the biggest schmuck on this planet. Remember when this babbling fool tried to defend Palins foreign policy ‘experience’ with some erratic rambling about the Alaska national guard?
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
mccain is a loser, he is too old to rule the country plus his vice president nominee is dumb she doesnt know what to do the only thing she know is to smile if someone asks something. Its the dumbest decision that the republican party has ever taken by nominating her
Posted by: tony | October 11, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
kravitz
You findout more because you actualy care the media only cares about filling pages!
McCains yuck!
Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Remember how Obama stuck up for Hillary???
Yeah, more is expected out of the Republicans.
Posted by: John | October 11, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Tucker Bounds is a nincompoop. Remember when that fool tried to defend Palins foreign policy “experience” with some erratic rambling about Alaskas national guard?
Tucker Bounds should do everyone a favor by sitting down and be quiet.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Tucker Bounds is a nincompoop. Remember when that fool tried to defend Palins foreign policy “experience” with some erratic rambling about Alaskas national guard?
Tucker Bounds should do everyone a favor by sitting down and be quiet.
Posted by: JS | October 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
McCain and Failin, the titantic duo.
Posted by: pete | October 11, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
John
Barack did stick up for Hillary when NBC said things about Chelsea!
He didnt Take any low shots in the debates.
Thats part of why i like him!
Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
John McCain is a national disgrace.
The only good thing that could possibly happen out of this complete nightmare, is NEVER elect another GOP candidate for at least 20 years.
They have been near white collar criminals since Nixon
Posted by: GOPdestroys | October 11, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Let’s connect the dots on Sarah Palin and her and her husband’s membership in the anti-American, anti-government ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY and her connection to two men Chyrson and Stoll who engineered her election a s mayor and brag that her door is always open to them. These are people who hate the U.S. and want to separate from the United States. How dare her stand up and declare her love for this counrty. If you loved our country you would have never had an association with a group that wants to be part of Canada or be their own nation. So I for one want an explanation as to just who is Sarah Palin and she needs to explain in detail her association with this organization and why she was a member of a group that by most standards would be considered “domestic terrorists”. It these anti-government and anti_american groups that breed the Timothy McVeigh’s of the would… you know the man who blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City killing men, women and children. For any one who hates our country please feel free to get on an boat or alane and leave. I for one do not want my tax dollars paying for the Palins’ to be living in the Vice President’s residence seeing they hate our counrty. Yes, by all means lets have details of your association with domestic terrorists, Ms. Palin.
Posted by: I've had it | October 11, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
So McCain is lauded because he stopped being deceitful and dishonest for, what, 5 minutes? Then it was back to the usual despicable campaign filled with lies and distortions.
I guess Ole John is uncomfortable with his leading a lynch mob. Rabble rousing is all you got left McCain and rabble is all that follow you now.
Posted by: JR | October 11, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
McCain did a great job today in a rally
where he urged the crowd to be respectful.
This is the McCain that I want to see.
Posted by: 2goodbt | October 11, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
First of all, the McShame campaign spokespeople, particularly Tucker “Knows No” Bounds have been issuing ridiculously unresponsive rants for months now — so, their inability to respond appropriately to an Obama compliment is not as absurd as it would normally seem!
And it could well be that Bounds and Company are not thrilled with McShame’s decision to finally return to his pre-campaign pledge to run a clean campaign — for however long this lasts as I understand this morning they are back to distorting Senator Obama’s position on abortion as they tout their own far-right wing position on that issue! Once again, playing to their shrinking base!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: jackt51 | October 11, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
That invocation was unbelievable.
Does the McCain campaign believe that there are only Christians and Jews in the US?
Posted by: Danny | October 11, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Question why is the media so WEAK ?
Palin doesnt take question but still the media lets this happen ???
I was reading foriegn coverage and they think we are fools in none of there countries could anyone run for office and not answer questions from the press!
When did America become Russia ?
When will the US Press grow a pair ???
Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
McCain/Palin’s strategy of lies and deceit brought on that anger to their troops. THEY ARE FALSE AND THE TRUE TERRORISTS!
Posted by: Jinny Lee | October 11, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
One more point, to all McCain supporters, remember this, all of these polls are weighted because of the influx of democratic registration, BUT, that registration is now questionable, thousands upon thousands are being tossed, so their polls are incorrect. McCain’s internal polls show an entirely different story, AND Obama knows this, which is why he has purchased time on NBC, at I might say, a incredible fee, far too small for what they would charge anyone BUT Obama. This is why he continues to return to states he and his campaign brag are in the bag, because they KNOW the polls are weighted far too heavily for democrats.
There are going to be some very surprised people.
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
McCain did a great job today in a rally
where he urged the crowd to be respectful.
This is the McCain that I want to see.
I disagree. It is two-faced and too late. If McCain wanted to tone down rhetoric he would pull adds calling Obama a liar and he would instruct Palin to tone down her rhetoric. He won’t though. McCain has the power to control his campaign and how it is run. However, he has chosen to give in to the lunatic fringe of his party and now he tries to correct them when he, through his campaign, led them to this? He is two-faced.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 11, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
In my opinion McCain is not the President I want nor will vote for especially with Palin in the picture. In saying that McCain is a good man with a good heart and knows right from wrong. By taking the mic from the lady that called Obama an Arab, McCain laid a boundry to his supporters. Its some of his supporters that are bigots and wack jobs. McCain doent have room for those types and they give him and his party a bad reputation and hurts his campaine. I feel for him. Having to deal with Palin-Rove-And his off the wall supporters must be in conflict of what he really stands for and they must be hitting him from all sides, but also we must remember its his decisions that put a lot of this on himself. Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: CW | October 11, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Actually I realize that pastor was probably just speaking for himself.
But the McCain campaign is really getting sloppy.
Posted by: Danny | October 11, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Yesterday I got my absentee ballot and voted for Obama for president, and I wanted to share the reasons why I voted that way.
First, I do not believe for one minute that Barak Obama, or anybody for that matter. could change Washington. It is a global power center, and as a result, the range of the best and the worst of humanity are at play there. From my mind, it is a human nature problem, not a Republican or a Democrat problem.
Second, governing America has to be a huge task. As much as we as individuals or members of groups push what we are for; there are other groups who are pushing for their interests just as hard. The range of opinions, perspectives and interests is very large and a willingness to sort through all of that and to arrive at plans that will be assets for our country again is going to take a special talent.
It is my belief that because of the quality of his decision making, an even keel temperament and the ability to understand and work with finances, Barak Obama has my vote.
Posted by: Mike Malter | October 11, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Ummm, I am not white.
AND, I do not hate. I think for myself. I vote according to record and contribution and experience.
As I read through all of these posts, I think it is abundantly clear who hates and who has had far far too much koolaid.
Next time you should be sure of whom you are speaking before you post.
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
McCain has to speak out about Obama’s SERIOUS PROBLEMS, because mainstream media DON’T WANT TO REPORT them (Obama’s CONNECTIONS TO ACORN and it’s VOTER-FRAUD in 15 States, Rev.Wright, Lous Fahakhan, ACORN, Rashid Khalidi (former PLO member) Obama’s Benefactor: Dr. Khalid al Mansour(Soudi Arabian)
Obama is the MOST LIBERAL SENATOR, far liberal than Nanci pelosi. Obama VOTED four times AGAINST providing medical care to BORN-ALIVE BABIES,(INFANTICIDE). This is SO CRUEL that even Nanci Pelosi with all other senotors VOTED FOR the identical federal bill, BORN ALIVE INFANT PROTECTION BILL.
Obama won his first election by having his lawyers KNOCK ALL HIS OPPONENTS (four opponents) OFF THE BALLOT on technicalities and he was ALONE ON THE BALLOT.
AND MANY MORE SERIOUS PROBLEMS
Posted by: Geon Lee | October 11, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
HEY…now I am really mad!! I was the first one to point out that he was the manchurian candidate…. they have stolen my accusation! Darn it!
Posted by: Independent | October 11, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Just another example that McCain doesn’t run his campaign. If he can’t manage his own campaign, how can he manage America? I do feel that he was genuine in his comments about Obama. I hope that McCain lives up to his maverick reputation and cuts the smear tactics. He’ll likely lose the election either way, but at least he can hold himself with dignity.
Republican party has no one to blame but themselves. They had control of each government branch + a right leaning Supreme Court and they botched it all up.
Posted by: frank | October 11, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Nobody in this world can claim that they are perfectly good or bad. So-called “good” people such as devoted priest can be subjected to temptation with thought that arises to a certain degree. While the “bad” people such as murderer will not even want to teach his children killing somebody. He will try to do the best for his offspring. Both Obama & McCain are not perfect. But most important thing is their thought, intention & character in relation to the future of this nation. These attributes could affect their policy toward international affairs and domestic polities. Resorting to character assassination and inciting people rebellious emotion is not good for the country and can only serve as a reflection of the candidate’s integrity. I recommend that both candidates stick fast to the issues that our nation is facing. Let the people judge impartially without bias and influence; and vote them on the Election Day accordingly.
Posted by: Sutter197 | October 11, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
James thank you so much for the web link!
Posted by: votes count | October 11, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
GL
You have proved my point. Thank you!
Uneducated and completely out of touch with reality. You have no other means of communication but name calling and a foul mouth. EXACTLY why you and others like you shouldn’t be voting. You couldn’t list any achievements Obama has made, nor could you talk intelligently about his proposals or even McCain’s record. It’s all about “liberalness” with you ilk.
Again, thank you for proving my point.
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
The McCain campaign totally misses the point with its attack on Ayers and the like. It is not a question of guilt by association, nor is Obama a bad person for having been involved with these individuals. It’s a matter of judgment., but not the judgment that the RNC would question. The fundamental query that needs to be asked to Obama is quite simple: “When dealing with Ayers, Rezko, Wright, Flager, and ACORN what was your gut instinct?” “What did you believe about them as you dealt with them?” “Did you see good, decent people, or people whose motives were suspect?”
These are the questions that could speak to how he will deal with foreign leaders and others who will play a major role in shaping his Presidency. And it can be framed not as an attack on Obama, rather as an inquiry into his instincts on people and his ability to notice character traits that are troubling. It’s important, since it could seriously diminish his power as President and, if elected, effect his legacy.
Posted by: T G | October 11, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
What concerns me know is with the new report coming out about Pailin in Alaska and how much access her husband had to the Governor’s office and abuse of it, if she is elected as VP how much access is he going to be allowed there to abuse that office as well. It seems Sarah can not say “No” to her own husband. Another thing that turned me off on her now is all this racial garbage, I really had considered voting for McCain before this started, but not know, he lost my vote just because of this. The garbage that she is throwing is getting way out of hand and is now going to be their downfall.
Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
McCain and Palin don’t want to be held responsible for anything they say about Obama? Sorry. You WILL be held responsible if any one of your right-wing nuts goes off and tries to hurt Obama or any member of his family. You MUST tone down the rhetoric or else!
Posted by: BJs65 | October 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
McCain has to speak out about Obama’s SERIOUS PROBLEMS, because mainstream media DON’T WANT TO REPORT them (Obama’s CONNECTIONS TO ACORN and it’s VOTER-FRAUD in 15 States, Rev.Wright, Lous Fahakhan, ACORN, Rashid Khalidi (former PLO member) Obama’s Benefactor: Dr. Khalid al Mansour(Soudi Arabian)
Obama is the MOST LIBERAL SENATOR, far liberal than Nanci pelosi. Obama VOTED four times AGAINST providing medical care to BORN-ALIVE BABIES,(INFANTICIDE). This is SO CRUEL that even Nanci Pelosi with all other senotors VOTED FOR the identical federal bill, BORN ALIVE INFANT PROTECTION BILL.
Obama won his first election by having his lawyers KNOCK ALL HIS OPPONENTS (four opponents) OFF THE BALLOT on technicalities and he was ALONE ON THE BALLOT.
AND MANY MORE SERIOUS PROBLEMS
Posted by: Geon Lee | Oct 11, 2008 2:23:19 PM
Your facts are so skewed it’s ridiculous. It’s people like you that makes me never want to vote Republican again. You all have gone crazy.
Posted by: Chad | October 11, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Why the switch?
Today marks a significant shift in not just McCain’s presentation, but also the GOP strategy.
.
Look closely at the TV broadcasts.
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Yes, McCain dramatically changed his tone, however Palin is now campaigning before banners that say “Country First ” and subtitled with “GOP.com”,
not JohnMcCain.com
nor McCainPalin.com.
“McCain” does not appear on any banner or handheld sign in the camera shot.
He’s been almost entirely removed from her presentation. She no longer promotes him as The Solution.
.
The GOP realized McCain is not going to win so they’re using the remainder of the campaign to promote Palin as the future face of the GOP. He’ll continue his new tone til the end so he can exit the race with an image worth retaining.
She will continue to campaign solo. He can’t concede yet, but the race is over.
Posted by: OOPSEE | October 11, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
people are upset at mccain’s rally because the media has given obama a free pass and all obama and biden have now is to blame the whole wall street bail out on mccain.mcain is putting ideas out and obama is skipping stones and just waiting to see what happens.there is too much time left to do that. now the so called polls become close. then we got all the voter fraud coming. this election is far from over.even obama does not belive the polls, 10 % undecided.
Posted by: harold l | October 11, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
TG
Good post. It’s also about his veracity. He has lied so often throughout this entire campaign that everyone should question his ability to become President. Those who do not are caught up in the “mania” that is Obama. They do NOT think, they simply act on emotion or party line. It is a fact that Obama could not get clearance from the FBI due to his connections with terrorists and Muslim organizations. However, the most egregious thing concerning Obama is his willingness to steal this election with votes that are not legal. He can do it, he’s from Chicago. I don’t care if Obama is purple, he’s corrupt. His skin color has nothing to do with my opinion, his character does.
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
I saw O’bama yell “YO” at someone the other day.
Do we need a ‘YO-YO’ president!!??
Is such illustrative of a true presidential demeanor!!??
YO, YO, YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…………………..
Posted by: Anon | October 11, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
I’m guessing the comments by the more extreme conservatives calling Obama and Democrats in general either “Socialist” or “Communist” are likely being made by people who are over the age of 40 and still believe we are fighting a cold war with the USSR. People younger than that don’t have the kind of negative association with those terms, therefore, the labelling argument is generally not going to be effective with many voters.
The only large nation that purports to be Communist is China, which happens to be one of the largest trading partners with the US. Anybody who shops at Wal-Mart is likely buying Chinese made goods. In other words, by buying Chinese made products, you are contributing to a Communist nation and thereby supporting it. On the other hand, how can you reconcile a Communist nation being a major trading partner and itself practicing effective Capitalism? This is just another reason throwing around these terms is likely to be confusing or just inaccurate.
There are already social (socialist?) programs in this country: public roads, education, Medicare and Social Security. You can argue and agree or disagree to the effectiveness of the government’s involvement, however the majority of Americans approve of the government’s involvement in these. Many social programs were either established under Democrats Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson. If you’ll recall, Roosevelt also presided over the bank re-structuring in this country. You can argue that what these Presidents did was socialist, however, many Americans reaped the benefits of these, and older Americans have been routinely saved from abject poverty by Social Security and Medicare.
So even these two Presidents, Roosevelt and Johnson, who established many social programs, did not dismantle the Capitalistic framework that the US is supported by, nor did they leave the US in more chaos with their economic policies. I think these are two examples that could provide a more clear picture of where the country might go if a Democrat was elected President.
Government regulation can be useful, and we’re seeing now just how bad unfettered de-regulation can be. If that’s Socialist, then perhaps some more of that Roosevelt Socialism will do this country a world of good.
Posted by: Greg Kerr | October 11, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
I’m not sure the problem with Obama is a lack of judgement. Rather, this man does the things that you would expect from someone who does not love this counry or believe in its ideals.
Posted by: Keepyourheelsdown | October 11, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
T G
The problem with that is Obama hardly worked with Rezco. Ayers did what he did 40 years ago and is respected in the Chicago Education community for pushing reform. And there are no dots to connect with Acorn. Obama was a Civil Lawyer who dealt with cases like voter laws and civil liberties cases. Project vote allied with Acorn 2 years after Obama left. And the fact Obama has answered 100% of the questions ask begs the question of why turn the subject to something that is not relevant.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Republican racists are getting out of control and McCain is to blame. He’s lost control of his own campaign and transformed himself into George Wallace.
I would pity McCain if he hadnt brought it on himself.
Posted by: memyself | October 11, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
McCain has been playing with fire, stirring populism, hoping to reach the most conservative crowds (but not necessary the most intelligent).
And this is what you get…
Mc Cain himself must be wondering whether it’s worth it…
Posted by: Olivier G | October 11, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Greg Kerr, I am sure you have some thoughtful ideas, but that post is way to long to get most ppl to read it. Regards.
Posted by: Keepyourheelsdown | October 11, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
How many republican leaders have called McCain out in the past two days? Quite a few. Norm Coleman even cancelled an event with McCain today. They can’t afford to be seen around McCain’s racist campaign.
Posted by: bob | October 11, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Republican racists?
You may want to educate yourself as to WHOM is reponsible for the Civil Rights Act. You may want to educate yourself also by using your own mind instead of Democratic talking points.
Can any of you have a discussion without calling someone names or going off the deep end?
McCain is doing the right thing, and it isn’t racist. Obama deserves to be questioned on his associations, whether you like it or not. BELIEVE me if it were McCain or another Republican with those associations, they would be finished.
The PRESS has not done their job.
They are more interested in getting their candidate elected then in fulfilling their duty to the American public and actually applying THE TRUTH to their stories.
Again Jake, get some guts.
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
So Bob,
what is racist about McCain’s campaign? It’s not the Republicans that are racists. The Democratic Party is the home of today’s racial prejudice in America.
Posted by: Keepyourheelsdown | October 11, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Mr. McCain and Mrs Palin are desperate and losing the election. It may even be a landslide win for Senator Obama.
Mr. McCain and Mrs. Palin are now on the low road with lies and smears. They have fallen from any grace. They are of shallow intelligence, temperament, and character. They are monsters of their own making in the public eye of the nation and the world. People are shocked by the nastiness and no this isn’t just anger. This is invoking hate, more fear against the other, associations with terrorism, and mixed with racism. Everyone knows this, it isn’t ambiguous. Senator Obama now has more security as the fringe Republicans have gone code red.
More than half of the voting citizenry of this nation are voting for Senator Obama. He has the superior set of programs and policies and has the best of our land working with him. He has inspired a nation of many different types of people.He has shown himself of superior intelligence, temperament, and character. He has shown himself a compassionate and inspiring leader uniting many different types of people-based on a vision and his programs.
McCain and Palin offer poor programs, no vision, no inspiration. They offer no leadership. They do not unite but they do form mobs.
Senator McCain has been in Congress for 26yrs. He has a long history of nasty associates including (1)where McCain was rebuked by Congress for unethical behavior and his involvement with Keating in the Lincoln Savings&Loan Scandel that cost $2B and started off a $100B banking catastrophe that the tax payers paid for, (2)his involvement with Libby of the Nixon/Watergate breakin, (3)his involvement with fringe right wing evangelicals who are outspoken racists, (4)his involvement of reactionary antisemitic activists, (5)his involvement and long track record with corporate lobbyists (including Rick Davis one of his current campaign managers who was paid by Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac through August 2008. And don’t forget about McCain’s role with the missing POW and his nasty behavior with their families. It goes on and on.
Posted by: lucy2008 | October 11, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
With all due apologies to David Letterman, here are the “Top Ten Signs of Desperation in Your Presidential Campaign:”
10. Your chief economic advisor proclaims that Americans are a “nation of whiners” who suffer from “a mental recession.” He is forced to resign shortly thereafter.
9. Your new chief economic advisor, formerly the CEO of a well-known technology company which she almost ruined due to an ill-considered merger, candidly admits to the press that you don’t have the knowledge, skills, and abilities to run a Fortune 500 company. She never appears in public again.
8. You confidently proclaim that the American economy is fundamentally sound, even as the banking industry, the mortgage industry, the stock market, and just about every economic indicator is in the toilet.
7. When asked how many houses you own, you have to defer the answer, saying “I’ll get back to you on that.”
6. In an attempt to appear more “presidential,” you announce that the economy is in a crisis and that you’re suspending your campaign activities to return to Washington to ensure passage of a bipartisan financial rescue package. You invite your opponent to do the same, but he declines. The legislation fails by a wide margin.
5. When asked by the press what significant legislation you’ve authored, one of your senior advisors pulls his BlackBerry from his pocket and asserts that you’re responsible for this device, obviously unaware that a Canadian company developed and marketed it.
4. You continue to insist that you’re a political “maverick,” despite your voting record which shows you’ve supported the current administration 90% of the time.
3. After having served in Congress for well over twenty years, you claim that you represent clear and unmistakable “change” from current policies, despite your voting record which shows you’ve supported the current administration 90% of the time.
2. You continue to question the character, experience, and judgment of your opponent, conveniently believing that few will remember that your own judgment was found by a congressional inquiry to be poor in supporting a charlatan who almost single-handedly brought down the savings and loan industry in the 1980’s.
And the number one sign of desperation in your political campaign is—
1. In an ill-considered, ill-advised, and ill-conceived decision, you selected as your running mate an opportunistic, inexperienced mock populist who, by her performance in the few press interviews she has given, is completely and utterly unfit to clean the Office of the Vice-President, much less occupy it.
Posted by: chuck | October 11, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
McCain is running the almost exact campaign as the republican guy in the Head of State movie. (Just replace Stone’s cousin with POW).
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
obama is going to give this,give that. there is no $ to do that.small business loans?where is all the media on that one.people got to know all these so callled plans do not make it to jan 21,2009.mccain should give away the house now, then when jan-feb come around start handing out the welfare cheese, because that is where obama is headed.poor people will not have a chance this winter,that is where the hand outs are going to really start from the bottom up.401 k’s,stocks, people are going to be going hungry in 3-4 months.oh but wait obama is going to fix all that?do you think mccain is going to turn away from a recount, he is no al gore, all this voter fraud going on. mccain will never back down. this election will not be over till jan 09.
Posted by: harold l | October 11, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
GET REAL!
It isn’t RACIST to call Obama out on his associations. That’s a tactic being pushed by Obama himself, let’s label them racists. McCain is NOT a racist and all of you know that. HOWEVER you will smear him and push that argument to get what you want, so please tell me, what does that make YOU?
By the way do you realize that since 98 percent of the AA community is voting Obama, that possibly makes THEM racists?
Voting for the AA because they are AA.
What exactly would you call that?
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Chuck,
Too long. Take a breath and start using your brain instead of just copying and pasting Demo talking points.
Posted by: Keepyourheelsdown | October 11, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
The Obama team should make sure they do a good research on Macain. Meaning to let the people know that, the main Ayres is not a terrorist now. If he Ayers was engaged into other things or other acts in the past when Obama was eight years old he Obama should not be called an Arab or a terrorist because of that. Because:
1) The Ayres man paid his time.
2) The University that he Ayres is teaching in presently, the university must have investigated him before becoming a university professor.
3) The Ayres man, have thought over thousands of students since, does that make all those student that he taught terrorist?
4) Ronald Reagan was affiliated with Ayres, was it right for formal president to afflicte with Ayres? A formal President.
5)If Ayres is still a terrorist why is he still a professor in the United States of America, and why are they looking for Benlide instead of a terrorist that is right in their nose.
I call this an assignation of someone’s character and I take this very serious and personal. After this election, on November 4th, Mcain needs to be in the highest supreme court along with Obama to sue him in court.
Obama is not a terrorist nor an Arab. He is just an American citizen who has fought hard for the ordinary citizens of this country. It is upsetting. I plan on sending a copy of this email to all networks and express myself.
God does not like ugly and that is why he has lost this election.
Thanks,
Palleh from York, PA
Posted by: Palleh Toe | October 11, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Haha, listen to the ignorace.
When Lyndon Johnson signed civil rights he said, “ive just lost the south”. And he did. Southern democrats joined the republican party in droves and the republicans ran the southern strategy to help that along. The head of the RNC apologized for it two or three years ago.
WHy do you think blacks vote dem? duh.
McCain’s campaign rallies are filling up with bitter racists and he’s helping it along with his message. He’s embarrassing himself.
Posted by: bob | October 11, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Palleh Toe
I would change the last point to Hawaiian. Obama is the first Hawaiian to run for President.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
I love the to 10 signs of desperation by David Letterman. He hit the nail on the head.
Posted by: Puat | October 11, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Brenda
Over 90% of African-Americans have always voted for Democratic candidate, who has always been white until now. Therefore, to say that they are voting for Obama only because he is black is clearly not true. But thanks for playing!
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
bob
But with the numbers in Georgia, Virginia, North Carolina … I think the U.S. is recovering from it’s addiction to racism. Now let’s work on classism, the problem is that people in power care little about the poor.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
How sweet it is to see the shoe on the other foot. 8 years of these idiots in charge. Too stupid to be angry at their own for putting us in this deep hole. You right wingnuts calling Obama unethical is beyond ridiculous after the disgusting behavior displayed by your ilk these past 8 years.
Posted by: YOMAMA | October 11, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
McCain should be embarrassed. His supports are ignorant biggots.
Posted by: hmurren | October 11, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Brenda
Black People vote Democratic, they always have. It is racist to call a man something he is not based on skin color or name. If I were to call you a person you pals around with terrorists, I am pretty sure you would take it as an attack on your honor and probably racist if you have a Arab sounding name.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Actually, voting for someone because they are black would not necessarily be racist anyway.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
The McCain camp have attracted those who believe in myths and are angry that those myths are being threatened. McCain and Palin busy themselves with myth rhetoric and inflammatory language to heighten people’s anger and hatred because their myths are threatened.
Posted by: lucy2008 | October 11, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
I’d say that McCain’s just taken his incitement under the table (where his hand was when he had his temper tantrum at the craps game off shore) because by telling his (McCain’s) fans that they do not need to “fear” Obama, he just reinforces that McCain/Palin ploy of suggesting that we do. Now McCain is just delegating the obvious incitements to others. It’s Palin’s best suit. Maybe if she wears her hair down, they will win?
Posted by: Gaias Child | October 11, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Tadpole
You are right. When you read the posts from most of these Obama koolaid drinkers, it’s obvious they are uneducated. Perhaps we should just feel sorry for them and hope that Obama will come up with some program paid for by taxpayers to get them some help. One quick read through their posts is telling and its quite obvious that no intelligent discourse would take place.
They are Obama apoligists. They live in the greatest country on earth, but they actually HATE it. In addition they cannot see that DEMOCRATIC policies that insisted those who could NOT pay their mortgages be given them anyway. Frank and Dodd sat by and allowed Fannie and Freddie to consume America while their CEO’s (All democratic supporters and advisers) became rich.
They haven’t got a clue. Not a single clue. It’s completely mind numbing to know they will be allowed to go into a voting booth and push buttons.
God help us.
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
bailey
You really need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. No matter how hard you want it to be a fact, it is still opinion.
Posted by: The Unshrub | October 11, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
YOMAMA,
Thanks for the thoughtful post. Very intellectual. Just remember, the Democratic party is the home of racial prejudice in America. Just look at Mr Racial victim Obama Hussein, Jeremiah Wright, Barney Frank and the others.
Posted by: Keepyourheelsdown | October 11, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Then I guess the clip I saw on CNN yesterday was a publicity stunt by McCain. At a rally in OH, an ederly woman stood up and said she believed Obama was an Arab, meaning she thought he was a terrorist. So McCain lied when he said he thought Obama was a decent guy. If they can’t keep their message straight, then how in the world can we trust this bunch with our futures?They are beggining to look rather Bushesk. McCain is beginning to look like a patsy. It’s almost like he’s lost control of his own campaign. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Quit letting Palin and “your campaign” say the complete opposite. No guts, no glory. What happened to McCain?
Posted by: Bea | October 11, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
ariel,
Give me one example of McCain / Palin hatemongering. You can’t.
Posted by: Keepyourheelsdown | October 11, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
I’m sorry, but OBAMA did PAL around with a terrorist. OBAMA also has Terrorists organizations doing polling and fund raising for him. Remember Hamas? My daddy used to say, when you lie down with a dog, don’t be surprised when you get up with fleas.
Hide your head in the sand, and attack conservatives with ugly name calling and empty rhetoric, PRETEND you are actually accomplishing something with that type of debate.
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Do they pay these guys?
Posted by: renu | October 11, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
If there is a Manchurian candidate it would be McCain, he was the one held prisoner. Get it straight. Obama would was too young to effectively brainwash. If you don’t know the truth , at least get your fiction straightened out.
Posted by: The Unshrub | October 11, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Brenda
You are hilariously. I met a person who was a drug addict a decade ago. Now I support drug addicts because I served on a drug prevention board with the guy. Next pigs will fly, and McCain will win the election.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
PALIN = LIAR, CRIMINAL, UNETHICAL!! Belongs in Jail!
McCAIN = FOOLISH, ERRATIC for picking Palin!
OBAMA/BIDEN = WINNER IN A LANDSLIDE!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 11, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Brenda
Get it correct. These people aren’t questioning Obama’s character. They are lying about his character.
Posted by: The Unshrub | October 11, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Is McCain mentally ill? Here it is, straight from the source:
A number of psychological mechanisms have been implicated in the development and maintenance of schizophrenia. Cognitive biases that have been identified in those with a diagnosis or those at risk,
1.Especially when under stress or in confusing situations, include excessive attention to potential threats,
2.Jumping to conclusions, making external attributions,
3.Impaired reasoning about social situations and mental states, difficulty distinguishing inner speech from speech from an external source
4. and difficulties with early visual processing and maintaining concentration
Posted by: Baaah Ba Loo | October 11, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Keepyourheelsdown
Not only are you historically inaccurate, you are downright insulting. McCarthy and Thurmond the last time I check were Republicans.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
What I see:
Obama rallies his followers with messages of hope, change and optimism.
McCain rallies his followers with lies, smears and hatred toward his opponent.
While I don’t mind using the term ‘grumpy old man’, McCain seems more like an irritated Mr. Wilson watching his own personal Dennis the Menace gain the admiration, respect and backing of the neighborhood. And what I see of McCain’s actions – Rash, impulsive, ineffective, irresponsible, deceitful – shows me the true character of the man and what kind of President he would make. If you want an ill-tempered, irresponsible and deceitful old man in the white house, it’s certainly your right to vote that way.
Personally, looking around at the current shape of the country, I think the US can do without any more of that kind of leadership. What I see in the two candidates are the differences between hope and hate. We’ve had enough hate to last a few generations (Thank you Mr Rove). It’s time’ we had some hope instead.
Posted by: Fatesrider | October 11, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Brenda: Anyone voting for either party has a crazy illusion. Two party’s that have worked to keep everyone out of the lime light so their power base can’t be challenged. It is time to recognize that both party’s have miserably failed us. The congress has been run by the democrat’s….they are tied by a chord to the corrupt wall street greed monsters. Barney Frank and his croneys. The President has a dictator thing going. The patriot act and now the equivalent of a financial patriot act. If you’re justifying your vote by saying a change to democrat will make it better then you are disillusioned. Neither party has our best interest in mind. That was proved with total disregard for the american opinion via the financial bailout vote. They are arrogant individuals pretending to be honorable. Your man Obama has had enough shady connections to place him in this category. Proved or not. We don’t have time to deal with another experiment but that’s neither here nor there. You and I will be back to the dark ages as soon as the word “Bank holiday” is spoken. Study the 2001 crash in South america and you’ll get it….better yet, get a tin beggers cup.
Posted by: kennedy | October 11, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
See what happens, now McCain is being accused of trying to divide the country, more or less claiming (racism). You can’t say ANYTHING negative about Obama. Truth always causes trouble with Obama. RACE CARD!!!!!!! EVERYTIME. I myself, am sick to death of this cover up with Obama.
Posted by: jg | October 11, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
yelling “treason!” “terrorist!” and “kill him!”
Posted by: Belle Starr | October 11, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
obama haters,
you can call him Hussein, arab, muslim, or anything else you want to.
You can try to conjure up all sorts of associations with others—while of course conviently ignoring
Keating,
Troopergate,
palin’s terrorist buddies in the Alaska secession crowd,
cindy mccains drug history,
john mccain’s adultery,
john mccain’s erratic behavior,
palin’s family mess,
palin’s tax evasion,
palin’s slaughter of helpless animals,
palin and mccain’s dismal education records,
mccain’s frail health,
palin’s lack of experience
and all of their lies.
YOU can go right ahead and rage about all of this internet trash you have invented to smear Obama.
WE are well aware of the above list of stinking garbage that follows mccain and palin everywhere they go.
Rant on. We don’t care. The stench from the GOP ticket is sickening
Posted by: sallievoter | October 11, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
jg
Maybe the truth is that Obama is clean, that is why nothing brings him down. You think Fox news is in the tank for Obama. Remember they have announce 1st every smear about Obama that has been latter proven false by nearly every other news organization.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
PALIN IS A LIAR – AGAIN!!
“Monegan has said he was fired in July after refusing pressure to sack Wooten, who had gone through an acrimonious divorce and custody battle with Palin’s sister.
Palin and her husband, Todd, have consistently denied any wrongdoing, describing Wooten as a “rogue trooper” who had threatened their family — allegations Branchflower discounted.
“I conclude that such claims of fear were not bona fide and were offered to provide cover for the Palins’ real motivation: to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal family reasons,” Branchflower wrote.
THIS IN NOT SOME DEMOCRAT CONSPIRACY LIKE PALIN AND McCAIN SAY…
These are the findings of an 8 week investigation, 25+ witnesses “under oath” done by 10 Republicans and only 4 Democrats!!!!
PALIN IS A SHAPE-SHIFTING LIAR!!
PALIN IS A CRIMINAL AND BELONGS IN JAIL!!
Posted by: Davis | October 11, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Fox news believes that the facts are not always irrefutable.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
The question is why is America in decline? America has been hoodwinked by mean spirited conservatives, these ignorant latent fascists for so long your economy is in ruins, your politics is considered a joke world wide and the two best men to lead you out of the wilderness face daily smears, lies and slanders.
Posted by: Ronald | October 11, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
“At a McCain event, Pastor Conrad of the Evangelical Free Church read an invocation that included the following: “I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god—whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah—that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons. And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and election day.”" – ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH FROM STATE IS SO CRITICAL. IMAGINE A COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE LIKE THIS FOOL HAD POLITICAL CREDIBILITY. IT’S FRIGHTENING!
Posted by: StreetGlideMan | October 11, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Those who are supporting and voting for Senator Obama are waiting in a very long line of free handouts–like free medical care, free college costs, free housing, free food, etc–all taken from the responsible people who really work, pay their taxes, live within their means and live the traditional, decent life as visualized by the Constitution signers. Obama is a true socialist and will forever ruin our America.
The McCain/Palin ticket means decency and traditional values and ideals–not a political agenda as in socialist/communist countries.
Posted by: Mary | October 11, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
sallievoter,
Are you serious when you accuse Palin of slaughtering innocent animals and that would make her unfit for office? Do you mean when she lawfully goes hunting?
Posted by: Keepyourheelsdown | October 11, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
I wonder why the media isn’t paying more attention to McCain’s ties to the American traitor g. gordon liddy?…
Posted by: McNot | October 11, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Hey rightwingnuts, get out your crying towels. But get ready to smile once President Obama takes office since ALL Americans will benefit from the change that’s coming, well except those who have been screwing us all for the past 8 years. With any luck they’ll have to pay their fair share and some, perhaps many, will see the inside of a good old
American Jail.
Posted by: YOMAMA | October 11, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
eternalvigilance
You don’t know what Black Liberation Theology is, don’t know how many people have been brought out of oppression because of it.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Mary,
You mean the socialist values that are using your money to bail out those free market capitalists that failed ? Yeah, that ‘unregulated free enterprise’ thing really works well. Talk about welfare. I guess it’s ‘charity’ when the wealthy recieve it.
Posted by: YOMAMA | October 11, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Deep down McCain truly is an honorable man who really wanted all along to run an honorable campaign. That campaign just hasn’t been successful. And now, faced with likely defeat, he finds himself using tactics that he once detested. He doesn’t want this to be the last chapter of his political legacy. I empathize with him. He’s a warrior.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | October 11, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
KeepKyourheelsdown
I was taught Black Liberation Theology by known other then Catholics not by some radical. This is the reason why people are hearing hate speech at McCain rallies. BLT is used combat social justice and it was founded by guess what a Catholic, it has help get civil rights in the U.S. for women, blacks, and gays are adopting it to fight for equal rights as well. But I guess you wouldn’t know that.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Calls for violence against political opponents is anti-Americanan undemocratic. I can’t believe John McCain hates America so much, but obviously he does… (This is what I call Rush Limbaugh logic… open mouth, insert black-market-pharmaceuticals…) But, seriously, this inciting violence against political opponents stuff really is anti-American and undemocratic, and it has to stop. Republicans should not want this to represent them!
Posted by: Sarah | October 11, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
enternalviligince….Obama doesn’t go to that church and he condemn Wright’s statement.Period! Secondly, Mccain is doing the same thing….only he is trying to “win” in a presidential campaign.
Posted by: votes count | October 11, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Seriously? Grown people are suggesting the notion that “My God’s bigger than your God” is even in the bounds of potential future discourse? Whatever that Pastor is paid, it’s too much.
Let’s hope rational thought and our aspirations for a better world (inclusive of all faiths) are bigger than all exclusivist and regressive ideas about deity.
Obama 08
Posted by: Vincent | October 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
I have been keeping check of response
comments. Do you know that most women
are against Palin. Hey Repubs If you are going to steal the election, dont say that Palin drew a huge turnout of women.
Posted by: kb | October 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
I think this country is goiing to be so divided after this election, no matter who wins.
Posted by: evonaix | October 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
McCain & Palin are fomenting anger, hatred among so many Americans and it has the potential to erupt into violent rioting and killing. Everyone should prepare for that possibility but especially LEOs across the Nation. Should the streets erupt into violence we all will have Palin and McCain to thank. They are succeeding in dividing the Nation, even within families, and the division can potentially erupt into violence in the streets. Too sad.
Posted by: Lawrence | October 11, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
eternalvigilance
You’re dishonest for spreading baseless hate, trying to make people afraid of Obama ,when it is not necessary. You are like a blog terrorist planting fear to cause political action.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
eternalvigilance
There is absolutely nothing racist in either of Obama’s books.
Will the lies finally stop on Nov. 4?
I doubt it.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
The self righteous McCain (McCain’t) and Palin (Stalin) are not above the law. McCain was involved in the Keating Five scandal in the late 1980′s-1990′s, Keating a High End Home builder needed help and McCain assisted causing the collapse of Lincoln Svg & Loan and Arizona taxpayers a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$, he can’t be trusted nothing changes!!!! Palin mismanaged money while in office in Alaska and cost taxpayers Millions and now we have Troopergate and it goes on and on and on
Posted by: lynn.luty | October 11, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
eternalvigilance
You are also extrapolating 30 seconds of footage into 20 years. I think any logically thinking Christian would think you’re facts are a little off.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
eternalvigilance:
“I cannot respect an associate of traitors who attended a militantly race hate church for 20 years.”
Heck, if anybody like that ran for President, I wouldn’t vote for him either!
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
eternalvigilance
Obviously many millions of people disagree with your assessment of Obama.
Isn’t democracy great?
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
eternalvigilance
I assume you are talking about the false excerpts from his books that you all pass around. If you had actually read the books you would know that Obama is not racist, and also not evil.
But you hide behind the rhetoric and refuse to learn more.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
eternalvigilance – Stop trying to distract me. Tell me how a McCain presidency would be any different than the last 8 disastrous years.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | October 11, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
eternalvigilance. A true “Christian” is someone who loves their fellow man and conducts their life as jesus did after his example. You are woefully mistaken if you think Obama is somehow “outside main stream” christianity. It’s your type of thinking that has got this country in this mess! Enlightened people everywhere are not going to let hatred and ignorance take us down. The real God, the true God, is a loving God and and He will always triumph.
Posted by: Cindy | October 11, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
eternalvigilance
God is agape….Look it up.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
I don’t agree with anyone acting objectionably, but I also just don’t believe it’s all or most of the crowd. A lot of people might be angry, but that’s also a different thing. And they have reason to be angry because of how one-sided the media coverage has been. The Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bailout is costing Americans $700 billion -$7 billion is already a lot of money- but the media hasn’t talked about how we got here and the roles of both parties in the mess. It took Saturday Night Live to “break the story.”
And the Ayers’ story isn’t irrelevant, or the only one. According to the page, “Web Archives Confirm Barack Obama Was Member Of Socialist ‘New Party’ In 1996,” on the blog, “Politically Drunk on Power,” Barak Obama ran for Illinois State Senate as a member of the Democrat Socialist-sponsored “New Party.” If you go to the blog page, it provides links to three sites (Chicago Democratic Socialists, an internet archive of a New Party page from 1996 – since the blogger says the page was scrubbed earlier this year when this first surfaced – and the Progressive Populist magazine, all of which identify Obama as a party member). And if this is the case, certainly government records somewhere would show the same thing.
As others have noted, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was Ayers’ baby, and Obama was its first president and chairman of the board. While Obama was running the fiscal end, it gave $600,000 in grants to Mike Klonsky (also former Students for a Democratic Society, like Ayers, and former head of the Communist Party, Marxist-Leninist). Klonsky was running another of Ayers’ projects, the Small Schools Workshop. In 1995, the year the CAC was founded, Ayers called himself a small ‘c’ communist. In 2001, he was photographed stepping on the American flag (google “No Regrets,” Chicago Magazine). Obama also is tied to the radical Saul Alinsky, having worked for his followers. Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky, recently wrote in a letter to the Boston Globe that Obama is using his father’s methods very effectively.
Obama’s official blogger is Sam Graham-Felsen, a writer for the Nation. In 2003, Graham-Felsen hung a Communist Party flag in his Harvard dorm room, according to a Harvard Crimson article (“The Four-Year Path to a Quincy Suite”). The article also mentions how he and a roommate each recommended an author to each other; Graham-Felsen recommended Marx. He’s been published in Socialist Viewpoint.
The band that opened and closed for Obama in Portland, Oregon, last May was the Decemberists, a pro-Communist group which plays the Soviet anthem in Russian. Their site has photos of Obama posing for pictures with them.
There are many other communist/socialist ties to Obama, including the “family friend” mentioned in his biography as Frank, who was the communist Frank Marshall Davis (as confirmed by the Obama campaign in “Unfit for Publication”).
Posted by: Erika | October 11, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
enternalvigilance—–Rev. Wright must of contradict himself because he served for the military, was a surgeon, and provided and served on food lines for the homeless. So you cannot tie the thought to him because his actions spoke louder than words. I didnt agree with some of his rhetoric through the sound bites , but he was a public servant.
Posted by: votes count | October 11, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
eternalvigilance
Let me break it down to you so you can understand. I wouldn’t want you to have a seizure trying to figure out what I am saying. Black Liberation Theology is a theology meant to give power to the oppress. You can take quotes form the 1960s all you want out of context but if you paid attention earlier to what I wrote Cone had defined White as oppressors and Black as the oppress. But since you have no ability to self reason or research you are left thinking it is a racist doctrine well guess what I wouldn’t support a God that oppresses people that God needs to be Destroyed. God is Agape and any other is a false idol.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
eternalvigilance – McCain and Bush are more alike than different on the issues that matter most to me an my family, the economy, the economy, and namely, the economy. McCain used to be a maverick, but since he won the nomination it seems as though he’s become more and more beholden to the right-wing base of his party, not moderate.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | October 11, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Anon,
We had President Bush already. He said a whole lot that was very funny and I did not expect from a president of this greatest nation. Listen to Governor Palin. Who cares if Obama yell out “YO”?
So petty.
Posted by: Shanice | October 11, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
McCain wants it both ways. This is an awesome thing to witness: this man, renowned for his “integrity,” is willfully stooping to this incredibly irresponsible tactic, consciously excusing the rage and making excuses for his actions.
I’m an Arizonan and, though I’m a Democrat, I always respected the man for standing up with honor for what he believed. No more. He’s crazed with wanting to be president, and that obsession has ripped away his honor. It’s a sad and shameful thing to witness.
Posted by: Dennis | October 11, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
What an absolutely disgusting campaign the McCain camp is running. The bright side is, it now seems to be attacting only crazy racists with no grip on reality whatsoever. I don’t know if they realize they are losing their more moderate and reasonable voters by doing this, but don’t care, because I will be voting Democrat. I am a Christian, so is Sentor Obama, and do not appreciate the Republican party trying to characterize itself as having the backing of Jesus, who would surely be appalled by their behavior. I also don’t appreciate the blatant an outright lack of respect for non-Christians, who I am proud to say still have the same right as I do in America to believe according to thier own hearts. I hope there is more shame and awareness in their hearts of the hate these so-called Christians spew than there seems to be in their words. Godspeed, Obama-Biden! . . .
Posted by: iamwomaninMI | October 11, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
eternalvigilance
Here what your quot means in 1960s context…
“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the oppressed community. If God is not for us and against oppressive people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the oppressed community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the oppressing enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of oppressed people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.”
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
McCain/Palin are inciting people to feelings of violence. Obama is still spending his time talking about the issues. By their fruits you will know them. Sarah Palin talks about God. Barack Obama lives the example. Obama inspires people to care about others. Sarah incites people to hate. One of these people is closer to what Jesus taught in their daily lives—-and it isn’t Sarah Palin.
Posted by: karela | October 11, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
How do you know those making these comments aren’t more Astroturfers from Axelrod?
I’d bet money on it.
Posted by: drjohn | October 11, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Erika….you need to get the entire story on Obama and Ayers sitting on the board. This board had several highly respected republicans that served with Ayers and Obama. The Anneaberg project founder is a republican and gave money to fund Mccains campaign. See we are all connected.
Posted by: votes count | October 11, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
And so it begins…the propaganda to look like if Obama wins there must have been cheating!!
“Discredited Republican voter-suppression expert Ken Blackwell has gone on TV lately with some wild accusations against Barack about a non-existent connection with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also known as ACORN.
The accusations have no basis in fact.
The truth is that Barack was never a community organizer or trainer for ACORN, and he was never employed by ACORN in any other capacity. ACORN was not part of the historic voter registration drive that Barack led.”
Posted by: Cynthia | October 11, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
God, its like Tucker Bounds and the McCain campaign always try to just disagree for the sake of disagreeing.
Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
okay entervigilance..will chat later sorry about the other comment.
Posted by: votes count | October 11, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
eternalvigilance
Many people called Mark Twain a racist for his book Huckleberry Finn. But if you read the book you would know that Twain was not racist and was showing the indoctrination of evil slavery in the South. Just like Republicans have started to indoctrinate that Black Liberation Theology is radical and racist. I guess Catholics must be racist as well according to Republicans.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
eternalvigilance the blog terrorist as left to go on a date. I hope he stays gone, and stop insulting people and things he doesn’t understand like history or facts.
Posted by: MM | October 11, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
This idea of Obama sitting in the largely humanitarian Trinity church for a full 20 years (without even getting up for a pee, one would assume) and somehow managing to be a 12-year Constitutional Law Professor and nationally-renowned progressive Senator is very strange. If he went once a week, he would still only have heard the 30 seconds of mis-speech scattered through about 6 months or so, and that includes praising Jesus, singing and dancing and having a ball for much of the time.
Posted by: Vincent | October 11, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
eternalvigilance
Where does all of that hate and fear come from?
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
it was fun gotta-go.
Posted by: votes count | October 11, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
A healthy democracy will steer a successful, practical, usually centrist course when it has honest, intelligent defenders of each point of view to debate and come to the best course of action.
The neo-cons in the republican party have killed the thoughtful, conservative contribution neccessary to good decisions.
The true conservatives who allowed this to happen by admitting these extremists into the fold will have no one but themselves to blame if the necessary correction ends up being too liberal.
For the sake of healthy discourse, I hope that the likes of poisonous Palin, egotistical McCain and all the Rovian cabal are dispatched quickly so that the country can return to a healthy, balanced debate on the extremely important issues facing the country.
Posted by: jk | October 11, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
One right-wing talk show Jerk that conciders himself an intellectual, says the only people allowed to vote should be well the well educated. If that would be the case, they should be the only ones to pay taxes and participate in service to government.,The jerk also dislikes Oboma because, according to him Oboma is a “creature of Government”. What is McCain? neither has done much more than serve government. These off the wall statements, by right wing, selfish, self-serving, not even Republicans and their poor moral majority, illustrate all of the crap that is bad about America and Americans. Oboma should walk away, let this stinking pot continue to stink.
Posted by: chucky | October 11, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Who wants to live blind? All of them have destroyed us. You can talk regulation till you are out of breath. These guys and gals took money from the bad guys. Get it? All of them!!! They try and cover their tracks after the fact! Now justify your candidate all you want and realise, if it’s Democrat or republican, you are now the problem. Very soon you won’t get a mortgage no matter what type, a low tax rate, a free block of cheese, a credit card, a good education, a fair shake. You’ll hear, your covered, the FDIC guarantees 250,000….oh gosh, sorry, we’re out of money. If you didn’t believe in the second amendment, you’ll convert as soon as all your belongings are taken but guess what, it will be too late. Throw them all out! Now!
Posted by: kennedy | October 11, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
What are we learning during this election?
Frankly, from the way people are behaving, we have slipped into becoming a very, very disturbed collective group of Americans. Or lets say that 30% have slipped into this mode.
Or were they always this way??????
–Carrie Bradshaw
Posted by: Baaah Ba Loo | October 11, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Philosophically speaking why do these people think there is more than 1 god? If they believe the bible there is only 1 GOD so to keep mentioning other GODS implies they think there GOD is in competition with other GODS which just flat out isn’t very Christian.
Posted by: Pam in Phx. | October 11, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
OBAMA is USING TERRORIST’S LAWYER to Defend LAWSUIT
Here come another of those “Guilt by Associations” that Senator Barack Obama will try to weasel himself out of. As you may know, Philip Berg is suing Senator Obama in Civil Court. Berg wants Obama to Produce his real birth certificate to prove that he meets the citizenship requirements to be President. Rather than just product the birth certificate (is he trying to hide something?) Obama’s legal team filed a motion to dismiss. One of the Lawyers filing the motion was Joe Sandler (sandler@sandlerreiff.com) of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reiff, and Young (see the document below).
If Mr. Sandler’s name sounds familiar it Should. He is the Legal Hit Man for the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR is an organization with terrorist ties, and has been as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the Holyland Foundation Hamas Funding trial.
Sandler’s role for CAIR has been to stifle people from telling the truth about Islam. For example, last year he tried to get Jihad Expert Robert Spencer banned from speaking to the Young American Foundation, by using a threatening letter. Sandler followed up by threatening columnist Mike Adams for writing about the Spencer incident.
Look, everyone deserves legal representation that is not the Issue. The real issue is why is a candidate for President of the United States, a guy who wants to take over the role of Commander-in-Chief in the war on terror, using the Lawyer for CAIR a group with terrorist connections, to represent him in a law suit? Once again the Junior Senator from Illinois leave us with questions and no answers.
Posted by: Anderson | October 11, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Tell me again why the McCain campaign should apologize for something another adult does at his rallies?
McCain is certainly not asking Obama to apologize for Ayers’s bombs, Rezko’s felonies and Wright’s screeches.
(He IS asking voters if voters have any of those same associations, which are fair questions. For the most past, we think voters do not. Voters get to judge Obama’s judgment; the media does not get to judge Obama’s judgment.)
An adult who screams “Terrorist!” at a McCain rally is the one responsible for his own actions, just like Ayers is the one responsible for the bombs, Rezko for the felonies, and Wright for the screeches.
Let the voters, not the media, decide about Obama’s judgments regarding his associations.
Posted by: Jan | October 11, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
I am a black catholic that was born in Africa and I have an european name. I use to go to church on Sundays and I cannot tell you what are sometimes the sermons conducted by the priest on the previous service (they have 3 services per day on Sundays). I am also not responsible that the Catholic Church was involved in sexual abuses over different people from both genders. Am I guilty or will I change my faith? Absolutely no. People that criticize Obama for being in the pews for 20 years may have the impression that he is a devoted and assiduous attendant of the church. I don’t think Obama in those years did attend church more than 64 times (an average of once per month) if not less. So Obama also is black by imposed definition because his mother was white and was raised by white people. It’s just nonsense to call him a racist when everything he is because of those whites that raised him and gave him so much love. This guy did everything just right in his life to be in the Ivy League (hard work and use of intellect). My wife is from Ukraine and my children are like Barrack and the only country they know is USA. This is their country and my country too because I am a US citizen. Let’s stop the madness, the first gift any child gets from his/her parents is his/her name so why that should be a problem?
Posted by: African Catholic | October 11, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Great prayer, me too. Obama’s God is a false god of separatism complements of J. Wright’s Black Liberation Theology
Posted by: Wild | October 11, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Black Liberation Theology has it’s roots in Marxist violence. Martin Luther King was a Baptist who believed in non-violence. Jeremiah Wright and MLK would not share the same God or philosophy. Let’s keep the record straight.
Posted by: Wild | October 11, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
So McCain allows this kind of stuff to be said at his rallies, then he gets mad when he gets called out for it? Amazing.
Posted by: Francheska | October 11, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
McCain will drop Palin from the ticket, push in Lieberman and since ya’ll have purchased this rhetoric you will have no other choice than to vote for someone who is Pro-Choice – LOL – you would of been better off to stay on the issues.
The seeds of what you sow – GOP is backed into a corner and you will see just how “Mavericky” John McCain is in the next few weeks (he dislikes you just as much as he dislikes the Dems)…
Posted by: Pam in Phx. | October 11, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
The Republican party has completely lost it. These guys are nuts.
Posted by: jmengate | October 11, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
The blind are leading the blind. Nuts is voting for either of the two party’s that have been shoved down our throats. Yes, if you are voting democrat or republican then you are nuts. How does it feel to be a sheep? You’ll make a great lamb chop!
Posted by: kennedy | October 11, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
if only if education was made mandatory…some people really requiere schooling…more so reps.
Posted by: kennedy ted | October 11, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
to the people who are saying obama’s god is a false god. remember, as christians, only god can make that call. he has given you nothing to think other wise. unless your god is a god of works, in that case christ would not be needed, then you can not attack this man for his faith. the christian god is a god of grace. you don’t deserve it, it is a gift. i am a christian, i support obama. also, remember, if your god is who you think he is, then he is able to use an imperfect, even non christian leader for this nation.
Posted by: tim | October 11, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
McCain will drop Palin from the ticket, push in Lieberman and since ya’ll have purchased this rhetoric you will have no other choice than to vote for someone who is Pro-Choice – LOL – you would of been better off to stay on the issues.
The seeds of what you sow – GOP is backed into a corner and you will see just how “Mavericky” John McCain is in the next few weeks (he dislikes you just as much as he dislikes the Dems)…
Posted by: Pam in Phx. | October 11, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Sounds infantile.
Posted by: worldsam | October 11, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
American’s that support this kind of garbage are pathetic. I hope the chinese whip the floor with you because the rest of the world is fed up with your racist arrogance. \
Posted by: mark | October 11, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Palin and McCain. Religious psychos!
Posted by: Snoop | October 11, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Nothing has changed from the McCain camp since yesterday. A man of God that is suppose to be a uniter. Did he and Palin attend the same church.
Posted by: jg5012 | October 11, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
McCain is willing to go ‘all in’ on a bet and if this goes down any further he will.
He will have nothing to lose because “my friends” this is his only shot.
Posted by: Pam in Phx. | October 11, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
This pastor’s invocation is not godly – it is, sadlyy, ignorant and hateful. It clearly shows he wouldn’t recognize Jesus if they met face to face.
Posted by: Lake Michigan | October 11, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Well, let’s see if McCain will be fair enough to condemn such an extremist point of view!
Posted by: Amy | October 11, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
McCain and Palin are an embarrassment to everything Jesus ever stood for.
What a shame that we will be stuck with a nothing like Obama because the GOP is such a black hole of thought.
Congrats to Palin and McCain, you have brought out the worst in America at a time when we need to work together the most.
Posted by: Tor | October 11, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Who are you to ‘define’ GOD?
Posted by: Pam in Phx. | October 11, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
John McCain has lost his soul, and quite possibly his mind. He’s a person so prone to rage that he, apparently, thinks it’s okay to incite anger and hate at his ralies. How sad for our country, and how very dangerous.
Posted by: Megan, Phx | October 11, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Interviewer: Governor Palin, there is a report out saying you abused power as governor of Alaska. What is your response?
Sarah Palin: I did not abuse power. I mean, look at me. Do I look like someone who would drink more than one powerade in one sitting?
Interviewer: So you didn’t fire public safety commissioner for not firing your ex-bother-in-law from his job?
Sarah Palin: I’m gonna ignore that question, and talk about how my dog lied to me. I mean, I asked him to go to the dog house if he ever forgot to bring the paper in the morning, and he just stood there. I know he was lying, because… really… this old fashioned, this great country that I love very much, and we have lot of oil in alaska, and we can see Russia from one of our island. I think that is important. Because, if Putin rears his head, where is that, it’s Alaska.
Posted by: Dave | October 11, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
At a McCain event, Pastor Conrad of the Evangelical Free Church read an invocation that included the following “I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god—whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah—that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons. And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and election day.”
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I have to ask. Is there any such thing as a Christian Republican or is that just some facade that political hacks have been using to sucker in the gullible people?
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 11, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
What a sad, pathetic turn of events. McCain and Palin should be ashamed of themselves. They will be relegated to the dustbin of history soon enough.
Posted by: Al Weisberg | October 11, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
So now “a vote for Obama is a vote against God”, everyday I think the republicans have sunk to their lowest level and everyday they surprise me and get even more into the mud. Republican have become the most despicable people on the planet.
Posted by: JR | October 11, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
McCain and Palin can’t sell their platform because even they realize that they have no substantive policies to present which differ significantly from those of the Bush years.
So instead they rely on instilling fear and hatred of somebody who is “different”, a philosophy that is consistent with the history of the extreme right of the GOP. They are all about morality, but care nothing about ethics.
Posted by: labman57 | October 11, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
There is no stronger tie to terrorist organizations than the current administration…Georgie does business with Bin Ladins
Posted by: thejaypee | October 11, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
My God is bigger than your God. An my God wants Obama to win.
Posted by: nh bob | October 11, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Yet more proof that RLIGION POISONS EVERYTHING!
Posted by: Kuching88 | October 11, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
The best that can be said about McCain is that he was an honorable man. Then he chose Palin; then he tried to incite his crowds; then he did nothing, immediately, to redirect the hatred and anger; then he stopped talking about issues = this is no longer a straight talking, honorable man – he has gone to the dark side. The crowds don’t want him, anyway, they want Palin. He is too old and confused to realize this. I will bet he retires from the Senate after the election. If he is elected, he better watch his back because all the hatred he has allowed to erupt will be directed at him because the “other side” will want Palin.
Posted by: diana | October 11, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Yet more proof that RLIGION POISONS EVERYTHING!
Posted by: Kuching88 | October 11, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
No tolerance, no understanding, no respect, no honesty, no integrity, no conscience, no compassion, no empathy -> The Republican Party. See it in bush. I wish bush were out of office long ago. McCain is somebody who deserves our respect, he has some of the understanding that would hopefully go to mending the divide of this country. As for palin – NO! The religious fanatics they conjour up for their rallies are disgusting and only server to deepen the divide of this country. Whoever is elected POTUS, we need to heal the divide and teach the tolerance and respect that this country has lost during the bush/cheney fiasco.
Posted by: raggmopp | October 11, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Are these two really running for President and VP? They sound more and more like they are running for some character in a circus or carnival. Shouldn’t there be a requirement for mental competency for these two? Never, in my whole life have I ever seen such an abomination of the most important election in our country. I know desperate people do desperate things, but this is way beyond crossing the line. And these two would be in charge of our nuclear arsenal? McCain and Palin should do the honorable thing and resign and let some other two people better fit to run this November. I don’t know who is the biggest misfit here, McCain or Palin.
Posted by: Jake | October 11, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
I knew race would work its way into this campaign. I am sure thier isn’t anything offensive at an Obama or Binden campaign stop,right. Give me a break!! ACRON, AYERS, WRIGHT, REZKO what about these guys? Imtiyaz Delawala (ABC reporter with Palin) has had nothing postive to write about the campaign from the beginning.
Posted by: Texan2112 | October 11, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Americans are justified in being upset at Obama. He spent much time with an unrepentant domestic terrorist. His former pastor is a racist. His friend Rezco, who helped Obama buy his house, is in prison.
If Obama didn’t have “associations” like these, the people wouldn’t be so mad.
Posted by: Benjamin | October 11, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
McCain lost his honor. Period.
Posted by: LetsGetRealPeople | October 11, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Boy, talk about another fine example of the type of religion hatred McCain and Palin supports. Who is this McCain supporter, who is a pastor, think this nation is? This nation have not just Christians and Catholics, but all the other religions as well. Such statements from a McCain supporter shouldn’t go well with all the voters of other religions. There are many good people of other faiths, so this is a messege of hate against them.
So much for McCain’s new clean slate.
Posted by: GWP | October 11, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Acorn smacorn. Did you ever see the testimony about how the electronic voting machines were rigged. Mr. Bush never really won the last one.
Posted by: akamai | October 11, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
All hear this:
God can take care of himself.
Posted by: JMC | October 11, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
My god is better than your god. What a pathetic priest!
Remember, religion is false to the wise, true to the common people, but to political leaders it is most useful.
Wake up religious zombies! Educate yourself on religious history—it will show you that ALL gods are made in the image of man.
Posted by: guy Ortri | October 11, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
I cannot wait to vote for Barack Obama.
He calm and steady intelligent leadership will be a breath of fresh air after the stink of W and crew. The neocons are desparate.
In one of the first debates of the primaries he said: “I not only want to end the war I want to change the thinking that got us into this war.”
That is when he got my vote.
Obama 08&16
Posted by: margoharris | October 11, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
My point – you will vote for McCain regardless of what he does because you believe the campaign rhetoric – Hence, he can put anyone on his ticket for VP – and I think it will be Lieberman – Yeah! Actually, a ticket that I can consider.
Posted by: Pam in Phx. | October 11, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Wow, what a scary old fool McCain is. WTF? Praying to God, to make God defend His reputation? Unbelievable stupidity.
Posted by: plantain11 | October 11, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Barney Frank allowed and pushed for the mortgages that destroyed the economy….hello, he’s a demoncrat…Obama never gave him the shake down. Bushy and Barak were flipping the cheerleaders on the sideline saying, go Barney go! Keep sippin’ you martini’s.
Posted by: kennedy | October 11, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
eternalvigilance. A true “Christian” is someone who loves their fellow man and conducts their life as jesus did after his example. You are woefully mistaken if you think Obama is somehow “outside main stream” christianity. It’s your type of thinking that has got this country in this mess! Enlightened people everywhere are not going to let hatred and ignorance take us down. The real God, the true God, is a loving God and and He will always triumph.
Posted by: Cindy |
……………………………………………….. I just want to give you a big AMAN !!!!
Posted by: jg5012 | October 11, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Eric
You truly are educated aren’t you?
Just reading all of the posts from those supporting Obama, I just can’t understand how you expect anyone to take you seriously when you have nothing but ugliness, hatred and profanity to prove your point.
Obama turned this into an issue on purpose. Apply the racist label to McCain. However, it’s going to backfire because it has made people understand what lengths Obama will go to to win.
For those who have HATED living under Bush, why did you? Why did you stay? Why not go to a country where you can be taken care of by the government, where socialist programs will make sure you never have to work if you choose not to? why not let other people work for you? You are still sitting at your keyboards, posting vile things because President Bush kept YOU safe for these past eight years.
Remember that when spouting your vile accusations.
EDUCATE yourselves.
Ignorance is NOT bliss.
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Reaganomics destroyed this economy – not Barnie – a flawed economic policy from the onset.
Posted by: Pam in Phx. | October 11, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
I posted this before on another site, and here it is again. Dear Editor:
As a Hindu, I am truly offended that they allow these types of prayers at their campaign events. It might come as a surprise to the predominantly White GOP, but many Hindus, Muslims, and Buddhists also happen to be US citizens and can vote. Rally your base if you must, but please do not insult the rest of us. Second of all, Hinduism is a religion, Buddha and Allah were people. There’s no such God as “Hindu” as his “prayer” implies. His ignorance insults me as much as his prayer. I can’t believe that this is not a bigger story, given that in one fell swoop this guy has managed to insult more than half the world.
Posted by: RT | October 11, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
McCain! What has become of you? You were once an honorable man; even those of us who disagreed with you politically once respected you. And now? Your crowd is preaching that hate you stoked, your pastor is claiming God is on your side, you stoop to character assassination of a political opponent as if he is America’s enemy, you have gone from sighted to blind. Such a fall from grace, and so unnecessary. No one owes you the presidency, but no one but you could sell your own good name.
Posted by: cameotoo | October 11, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
If you want to use the bible as the litmus test for qualified leadership, then in order to be in leadership you had to be the husband of 1 wife ( among other things). Thus John McCain does not qualify. But really folks, I think we can see the danger when we try to say a person is only a “true” Christian if they meet the qualifications we set forth. Lets keep politics in its own box and apply religion in our private lives, privately.
Posted by: lirpa | October 11, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
JG
It’s “AMEN”
Don’t use it much do you?
Additionally, do as Jesus would do? So, do you think that maybe Jesus would have taken some of Obama’s millions and make sure that his brother, who is living in a hut on a dollar a month in Africa, didn’t have to do that? I mean obama does want to take YOUR money to care for those who won’t work, so do you think that perhaps he could have taken some of his own to care for his OWN BROTHER? Jesus, What you do to the leas to these, one of the scriptures Obama loves to quote, ONLY he doesn’t practice it. The Bible is easy to quote, but it is a true CHRISTIAN who practices it daily.
Posted by: Brenda | October 11, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
People ask how can you be religious and be Pro-Choice. It is simple, Why? Because no government should have a right to dictate to its people what they do with their bodies. Isn’t that what the Nazi’s did?
I was born and raised Catholic, I personally do NOT believe in abortion but I am definitely Pro-Choice. I would stand my faith up to any of you religious fanatics any time. If you are truly Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc. it is your job to teach the word of your faith not the government’s job to dictate to all, your beliefs. Remember separation of Church and State. Do your job!!
How can you believe in the Bible, Torah, Curran, etc. and the Ten Commandments and believe in war? Going to war should always be the last choice not the first, especially when it is based on deception and lies, Mr. Bush. I pray for our brave men and women in our military for there safe return home. I surely don’t pray for them to kill as many people as possible. And it makes me sick that some of you so called deeply religious people put God and war in the same sentence, paragraph, thought, etc. Your theology is no different than the Jihadists we are fighting. Idiots, think, and pray for forgiveness. Don’t you ever use God to justify a war.
I am now convinced that all of you Evangelists and Religious Fanatics out there are the true ANTICHRIST. There is NOW WAY my God would ever condone this kind of blasphemy. McCain you should repent for using thy Lord thy Gods name in vein. SINFUL & SHAMEFUL!!!
WAKE-UP AMERICA. The only chance for change is Obama/Biden. At least a chance!!
Posted by: Don, FL. | October 11, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
All of us sitting on the outside looking in at the United States are not anti-American. We see the comments in this election campaign and say “What the hell is going on with these people?” You have a man, who lived the American dream as we know it outside the U.S. Who succeeded inspite of having no resident father. A poorer than most childhood lifestyle from with a single mother. A real family where the grandparents helped to shape his character and encourage him to strive to reach his goals. When he attained those goals he did not just care about hinself but went to work trying to improve the lot of others. Now we see this, a man supposedly a Christian minister denigrating Barack Obama and invoking Gods name to do it. What folly. This man does not know Christ. It was Christ that went to work for the poor. Christ who never cared for wealth. Christ who said give up everything you have and follow me. What has this pastor given up? Likely nothing. Who has this pastor ever helped? What sacrifice has this pastor ever made? I do not know the Evangelical Free church but if it is anything like the massive fundamentalist structures we see on television then I would hazard a bet it is populated by sheep too afraid to learn what Christ was really about. Christ was the origianl liberal and it was the GOP of the time that nailed him to the cross. We can only pray that enough of your citizens come to your senses on November 4th and elect an intelligent president for the first time in 8 years.
Posted by: dunlike | October 11, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
So you begin a Republican rally with a prayer…
Dear God,
People of every religion support Obama.
Please don’t let him win, cause the rest of the gods will think you suck !
NICE…
Posted by: oldwhiteguy | October 11, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Macain/Palin is more proof “That ounce you embrace the dark side of the force forever lost will you be.”
There are not resposible for single nut case responses. They are responsible for a tone they have set that encourages such actions.
Posted by: arg | October 11, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
akamai — If you want to look at past elections we can look at a hypocritical double standard. Dan Quayle and GWB were criticized for serving in the National Guard. Bill Clinton excused and pardoned for burning his draft card. John Kerry was portrayed as a hero for service in Vietnam but John McCain’s 20+ years of service are irrelevant. Obama and Biden apparently had better things to do than wear their nation’s uniform. John McCain is criticized for marrying a millionaire but it was perfectly alright for John Kerry to marry a billionaire. One preacher makes a radical statement at a function attended by McCain and the media goes into frenzy but seems to have forgotten Reverend Wright condemning other races and saying G.D. America. If you want to look back we can.
Posted by: Oonogil | October 11, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Sam SAID “Afterall he had ACORN on his side during the primaries too. And we still want Hillary to run in 2012.”
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I find this ACORN thing funny in the sense people are assuming that ACORN favors Democrats. I think they favor Palin and McCain. All those registrations are of all those far right and rightous Evangelicals who just LOVE Palin. Since all the ACORN allegations against Obama are rumor; Let’s start that rummor too.
Posted by: Olivia | October 11, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Pam in Phx.,
Actually, the Bible talks a lot about other gods, which are false gods. The Israelites often started worshipping them, falling away from the one real God. See, for instance, the story of Elijah and the prophets of Baal.
Posted by: Erika | October 11, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
The rightwing wackos once again outdo themselves. The garbage that has come out of the palin/mccain campaign is incredible. I just hope and pray to my CHRISTIAN GOD that come November 4th there are more of us than there are of them!
Posted by: ang | October 11, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
I am disappointed by Rev. Conrad’s prayer. I don’t think God needs us to ask Him/God to protect His reputation. God…in his many forms…by the different names that people of all faiths all over the world call Him…would be capable of operating for the goodness of all without our intervention or begging Him to do so. Some believe He is wise and wonderful and good. And so, should we not be coming to Him, God, and asking for wisdom in this difficult time? Has it occurred to Rev. Conrad that Obama in the White House might be God’s plan? How God would honor his name?
Posted by: Linda | October 11, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Pastor Conrad said, “….because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens.”
Is he saying there is more than one God. Last time I checked one of the things Islam, Christians and Jews had in common was the same God.
Posted by: mirand11 | October 11, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
McCain and Palin ate clearly trying to get Obama killed. They just don’t want to be punished for it. Anyone with a rational mind can sede they are trying to make Obama look like a secret muslim terrorist that will hurt America. Some nutcase is going to think he is being a good American if he kills Obama.
If that goes down… it will rip America apart. Someone needs to talk sanity into McCain before it is too late.
Posted by: lila | October 11, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Erika – The Bible was written by men, edited several times over – do you really think that an Omnipotent GOD would care who was worshiped by man?
Posted by: Pam in Phx. | October 11, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
McCain Campaign is appealing to the worst of AMERICA. This is shameful.
They are taking us down a very divsive and destructive road.
They must stop this.
Posted by: Mary | October 11, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
These people who are inciting anger and hatred against Obama don’t care about the issues. They won’t even consider them: it doesn’t matter to them which is the best economic, foreign or social policy or what is best for american interests. They decide who they vote for before any rational thinking. What they forget is that they are fostering hatred towards a candidate that is representing at least half of americans. They are inciting anger and hate amongst americans and they dare to question everybody else’s patriotism. They are not capable of uniting the country and they are going to lose big this time.
Posted by: xav987 | October 11, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
dunlike – We pray that a man who listens to hate ministry for 20 years is not allowed to lead one of the most powerful nations on earth. We enjoy as much freedom as any other nation on Earth. Other nations depend on us for their survival. We have no genocide and we live by our constitution and will unless Obama takes office. With all due respect, if this election does not directly affect you, you don’t get to choose, unless ACORN registers you for Obama.
Posted by: Oonogil | October 11, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
No matter how far some of America has come its intolerant hardcore seems to remain unaffected- kind of like a ‘Lazy Susan’ table at a Chinese restaurant- the outer part moves around freely while the centre stays eternally fixed!
Posted by: Leo in NZ | October 11, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Obama will win because he is christian. Rev Conrad just prayed for Obama to win.
Posted by: Kenny | October 11, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
And then God replied to the Pastor,
“gee thanks, I never thought of that before you mentioned it. Oh geeze, my reputation is on the line? Well, I can’t have anybody saying anything about me because as I sit up here with Buddah, Allah, and Jesus and discuss stuff, what I’m really thinking is “I’m so much better than them”.
Give me a break! Is God so small minded? How insulting and insulted he must be right now by this so called Pastor.
Posted by: cbel | October 11, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Hmmm… Well, I think I’ll have to go with Obama on this one, to be honest.
Posted by: Jesus Christ | October 11, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Oonogil
McCain who is friends with two hatemongers does not deserve to be president-
Rev Hagee and Rev Parsly.
McCain has also appointed a VP who palls around with Alaska separatists. This is treason.
Posted by: Kenny | October 11, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
There are quotes that Sarah should keep in mind. Don’t shoot the messenger! Play with fire and you get burned. He who lives in a glass house should not screw the neighbors. If you don’t have anything nice to say–SHUT UP! I liked her a lot better before she learned to talk. Now just seeing her face makes me change the channel.
Posted by: Sybil30 | October 11, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
It sounds like he thinks that he is so righteous that he can threaten God and tell Him what to do.
I am surprise that he doesn’t know that God can protect his own reputation.
It is frightening that so many right-winged “so-called” Christians are so full of hate. They need to pray for God to cleanse their hearts and learn how to love those who are different from them.
Posted by: L JONES | October 11, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
The UNTOLD story is McCain’s ten year long friendship with G. Gordon Liddy, a convicted felon who not only broke into Watergate but planned to assassinate the columnist Jack Anderson and kill E Howard Hunt if he testified agains Nixon. The same Liddy that recently advised Branch Davidians to “aim high at the heads” of ATF agents who were reading their compound, becuase “they wear bullet-proof vests.”
Liddy has donated $5000 to McCain’s campaigns over the years, McCain reguralrly appears on his radio show and has said to Liddy “I love what you’re doing and what you stand for.”
And Liddy stands for killing ATF agents and journalists and breaking into political opponents offices.
Who’s the terrorist? Ayers or Liddy? And who’s really friends with who? Liddy and McCain, that’s who!
THIS STORY MUST GET OUT. Google McCain and Liddy…you can read all about it.
Posted by: jeff | October 11, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Would the McCain Campaign inciting a riot, and causing giant masses of followers in the name of Religion to Hate on individual be a criminal act?
Strange that they would have a pastor to provoke the Republican masses to Hate Obama even more.
Now what did Cindy McCain complain about when she mentioned that the Campaign had gotten dirty?
Maybe Cindy should try to change things in the Republican Campaign since that is where all the DIRTY Campaigning is coming from.
Posted by: mere | October 11, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
It sounds like he thinks that he is so righteous that he can threaten God and tell Him what to do.
I am surprised that he doesn’t know that God can protect his own reputation.
It is frightening that so many right-winged “so-called” Christians are so full of hate. They need to pray for God to cleanse their hearts and learn how to love those who are different from them.
God is love.
Posted by: L JONES | October 11, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
With all due respect, if this election does not directly affect you, you don’t get to choose, unless ACORN registers you for Obama.
Posted by: Oonogil
……………………………………… The trouble is this election does directly affect me. I just don’t have a vote. That’s what everyone not living in the United States already knows. However your nation goes affects us all for good or ill. It affects all my relatives living across America, and I hope they at least vote, perhaps even more. I will grant you that perhaps a neighbor sitting on the porch next door shouldn’t get involved in a family quarrel. Sometimes that friend just has to say something when he sees things that are not obvious to the parties involved in the fight.
Posted by: dunlike | October 11, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Troopergate Inquiry finds Sarah Palin GUILTY.
Sarah Palin VIOLATED THE TRUST Alaskans placed in her and BROKE THE LAW as their governor when she fired a state official who had refused to dismiss her ex-brother-in-law from his job as a state trooper, according a legislative report released Friday night.
Ten republicans and four democrats were unanimous in adopting the findings (as they were in initiating the investigation.)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081011/pl_politico/14481_1
Posted by: Bob | October 11, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Title 18 of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which makes it a felony to “travel in interstate commerce…with the intent to incite, promote, encourage, participate in and carry on a riot….”
I have firsthand knowledge that the Justice Department is looking into the McCain/Palin Campaign and their tactics.
Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 11, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
what is American turning into,men of dignity and those who preach in the name of God would do everything to assasinate another man’s character all in the name of presidency.McCain/Palin and his pastor are pure racists,is this the America that preaches a free-world,you call a fellow American a terrorist….what is wrong in being a Jew,Catholic,Muslim,Buddist,Hindu.i might as well call America a prostitute,it does business with rich Islamic(Arab)nations,without their oil Aamerica cannot breathe and yet you treat Arabs as filthy.Palin a proclaimed secessionist and McCain an adultrer who will gamble with America’s wealth will spark the hate campaign generations of Americans never knew.
Posted by: soga | October 11, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Brenda:
I get a kick out of folks like you who think that those of us who don’t agree with your republican viewpoint must be kooks, koolaid drinkers, socialists or terrorists. Of course, all republicans put “country first” and always tell the truth and never slander anyone or commit ethics violations.
Meanwhile, you continue to try to make this a personality quiz, while our enonomy slides further into the toilet and our military personnel continue to suffer from their service in the Iraq War. You’d like to ignore the violations of law and ethics of the past eight years and pretend that McShame didn’t support George W. Bush.
But your candidate is in a hole that even his best behavior for the next three weeks couldn’t dig him out of, let alone his inability to be consistent, talk about issues, or keep his soul-mate or his rally crowds in line.
President Barack Obama. Get used to it.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: jackt51 | October 11, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Wow, the McCain campaign is desparate, seeing him trailing in the poll as the election draws near! They see that nothing has worked so far, so they go to their last card:
RACISM and RELIGIOUS FANATICISM!
“My God is better than your God”
“My God will kick your God’s ass”
Is America so naive as to believe the words that these religious wackos spew out?!?
This is EXACTLY the reason why our FOUNDING FATHERS, in their wisdom for foresight, have written into THE CONSTITUTION the SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE!!!
It’s these kind of RELIGIOUS WACKOS that said “THE EARTH IS FLAT” and imprisoned the Galileo Galilei for speaking the truth!
OUR FOUNDING FATHERS knew that if the Church gets control of the country, they will destroy it with their fanaticism and stupidity!
Posted by: Bryan T | October 11, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
To EAD, you stated, “A baby in the mother’s womb is a separate unique human living being. Basic biology points this out and technology proves it.”
This is false. The baby is NOT a “separate” unique human being. If the mother dies, the baby will die too, unless outside intervetion occurs rapidly and only in the later stages of the pregnancy.
Posted by: Guy Ortri | October 11, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
McCain is the most wishy washy SOB.
I guess the Republicans couldn’t do better than his and ole Pale Face Palin.
Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 11, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Was the invocation written by Monty Python?
Posted by: dixie-chik | October 11, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
McCain is suffering from split personality disorder or he is not in control of his own campaign. I’m a die hard Democrat and Obama supporter. I think everyone who knows John McCain saw a little of the old McCain when he pushed back against his supporters yesterday talking about being afraid of Obama and that he is an Arab. I believe his senate colleagues and close associates know that the things that are coming out of his campaign aren’t McCain thoughts, it’s the Neo-Cons. What is the October surprise? More and better known Republicans coming out repudiating the McCain campaign and/or his candidacy this could be the beginning of the splitting of the party Neo-cons & religious zealots and moderates & fiscal conservatives or it could be when the moderates & fiscal conservatives take back their party
Posted by: Ramaci | October 11, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
George Bush drove millions of sane people from the Republican Party.
Sarah Palin will drive millions of sane people from the Evangelical Movement.
Posted by: Kelly | October 11, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
“I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god—whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah—that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons…”
Don’t religious people beleive:
“I am a jealous God, a vengeful God. Thou shalt have no other God before Thee.”
Isn’t recognition and believing there are other Gods blasphemy? And isn’t blasphemy also a sin against God? Do these people no longer know what their beleif is and where they’re going with it? Many of my republican friends claim the GOP was “hijacked” by the “religious nutjobs” of this country.
Posted by: Chee | October 11, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Chee………
religious nutjobs and Neo-Cons
Posted by: ramaci | October 11, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
I’m voting FOR Obama because I’m a Christian and believe in God. I believe it is my Christian duty to vote FOR Obama. It’s a duty I will enjoy and feel good about fufilling.
Obama/Biden ’08!
Posted by: Ron | October 11, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
McCain’s crowds are so hateful and angry. He needs to chill out before he whips them into a hysteria that he can no longer control. Whatever happened to a “respectful campaign”? I’ve lost so much respect for McCain over these last few weeks.
Posted by: Sean | October 11, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
What is happening to America? How can a so called pastor pray this kind of prayer? Is he saying he and McCain are the only ones that have the right to pray to the real God while others like Obama and his supporters does not? May God have mercy on us all!
Posted by: Rawlings | October 11, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
The fascist incendiary tone and twisted facts Sarah Palin and the McCain campaign have been using to incite angry mobs at their recent rallies is similar to those tactics used in the 1930′s by european fascists. At present, the majority of people showing up at Palin rallies are mentally unstable; those showing up at McCain rallies are confused and fearful. That’s the fascist strategy. Sound familiar? The shouts of “kill him” are actually legally actionable: under our post-911 domestic terrorism laws, the Secret Service should be arresting every single rally attendee publicly making threats against any candidate and should be detaining and questioning the motives of the speaker (Palin in these incidents) who is inciting the threats.
Also, what enormous hypocrisy that Palin is forcing to establish a “relationship” between Ayers and Obama when Palin herself is very recently, very closely connected to an active domestic terrorist organization: the Alaskan Independence Party whose founder has made the most outrageous terrorist statements of hatred against America ever known?
Posted by: RealityByte | October 11, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
kelly,
you ae correct. the only ones left, unfortunately are the mob-calling for obama’ head and blood. so sad.
I am a democrat. and i will be glad when the REAL Rebublican come out again.
all of the well meaning, thinking rebs have left the building.
Posted by: omg | October 11, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
It can all be quite sad. I am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and I am voting for Obama for President this year. Just let me say this to/about my fellow “Christians” We must all search our hearts. The bible says we all must work out our own soul’s salvation with fear and trembling. God looks on the heart; man looks on the outside. I assure you God is not Democratic or Republican. He does not love the United States of America more than the rest of the world he created. If you believe he does then you have been deceived by the enemy. Please search your hearts and see what God you are truly worshipping. Are you worshipping the God of the Bible? Remember there will come a time when we stand before the Lord. Don’t have him say to you depart from me ye workers of iniquity I never knew you! Remember love your neighbor as yourself….God truly is Love and loves us all and died for us all! Not some but all. Search your hearts and see if the love of God dwells within.
Posted by: PBM | October 11, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
These hate mongers that have been threatening and even booing their own candidate, John McCain, make me sick. I have been a life long Republican (60+ years) and have never witnessed anything so disgusting. The Republican party is the party of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed the slaves. The behavior of those in attendance at McCain and Palin’s rally’s is enough to make Lincoln turn over in his grave. As a result, I plan to sit this election out.
Posted by: Disgusted Republican | October 11, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
McCain is a foolish man, he is wallowing in what he thinks is admiration and respect and hasn’t figure out that Palin brought him all the crazies and hate mongers. Now he is the official leader of Hate & Fear. I thought Lewis’s comment was appropriate. Mr Country First,does not have the intellect to foresee, hate is not contained, it grows like a cancer. It was easy to see McCain rallies were beginning to sound like lynch mobs. I think McCain should spend the next 3 weeks cleaning up his hate & fear messages.
Posted by: d49nj | October 11, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
I am a Catholic and I am praying to my God that Obama wins, for the good of the country. I’ll admit I’m also praying that the radical Evangelicals in this country learn how many sins they commit every day as they try to use God’s will for their own purposes.
The radical Evangelicals in this country have created their own concepts of Christianity and I fear them as they continue to try to take over my country, and try to redefine my own faith. I want my religious freedom from these people. Why can’t I find that in America any more?
Posted by: jdinhouston | October 11, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Acorn? Why would Obama’s campaign that is ahead pull an Acorn?
This whole Acorn business has Republican written all over it, flooding the general election as they did during the Democratic primaries. You remember the Cry from Republican Rush Lumbaugh telling his Republican listeners to sign up as democrats to flood the democratic primaries. and Yet no one was arrested for it.
Now all those forms of different names and signatures of the ACORN have FINGER PRINTS ON THEM. And in most states, they do a thumb print for the State ID and Drivers Licenses. I know my state does.
Trust me, The Acorn people will be found out.
Posted by: mere | October 11, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Maverick(Mav’әr•ik)n. 1 a person characterized by abuse of power, irratic behavior, provoking hate and fear, walking the fine line of bigotry and racism, shooting from the hip, leading from the gut, conveniently shifting positions, and capable of thinking my god is better than your god (even if the other guy shares thier same belief); synonym – McCain, Palin, machiovelian
I’m a Soldier and I can’t believe McCain has stooped so low.
Posted by: Miguel | October 11, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
I can’t believe it. McCain’s supporters get more and more crazy. So now they are expecting us to believe that the christian God is somehow tied to McCain, but Obama is only supported by buddhists, hindus and muslims!?? What a joke
Posted by: Paul | October 11, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
McCain is not mentally or physically capable of being president. Palin is not fit to set foot in the White House.
Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 11, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Pastor Conrad – Are you for real!?! Arent’ you being blasphemous? First you claim there is more than one god and that those gods are subject to human conditions like reputation and pride. I hate to break it to you but there is only one God, not subject to human failings. And I pray to that God every night to keep the Obamas safe and that he be elected as leader of this great nation.
Well to your way of thinking, may the best God win!
Posted by: mush | October 11, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
During the Iran-Contra hearings Oliver North also invoked God, causing Senator George Mitchell to chastise him, pointing out, “God does not take sides in American politics.” And just to be certain North got it, he said it a second time. It was a moment I will never forget and made me appreciate Senator Mitchell forever.
Posted by: DavidKnows | October 11, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Pastor Arnold Conrad dishonors Christians everywhere. Self-righteous, ignorant man.
Isn’t that the Christianity that Palin stands up for too?
Posted by: HeyYou | October 11, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
The prayer in question indicates that there are numerous gods rather than the One God that is Father of us all, Christians, Muslims, Hindu & Buddhists. The difference is how God is approached. Actually the nations of the world are divided among themselves. It would be better to honor the many faiths to work for harmony. We are dealing with the angry emotional states of many cultures. We should be working together for the good of the world rather than creating more divisions. The Koran of the Muslims contains many references to Christianity. Buddha was Christ of the Orient. We all have a common soul. We should be respecting each other and allowing the anger and resentment to dissipate so that we all can work for the good of the planet rather than to remain so divided as to destroy ourselves. We will never have only one approach but the key to working together is to respect each other’s point of view and work for continued good of the masses.
Posted by: G. Raye | October 11, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
That pastor is completely insane.
My God is better than your God??? What is he, 5?
Posted by: Loony Toones | October 11, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Dear Disgusted Republican,
Pleae don’t sit this one out! America can unite under one starry sky, one sunny day, one great leader fulfilling our one Constitution. Please exercise your sacred right as a free American citizen and cast your vote on election day. I happen to be voting for my candidate, Senator Obama, but you must follow your heart and don’t sacrifice your right. We must be united and move forward even though we may not agree on every single line item every single time. We are blessed with the opportunity to have a leader with character and integrity and hope at this very confluence when we need him the most to take us forward and reclaim our position in the world. Your fellow citizens are relying on each of you.
Posted by: RealityByte | October 11, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
This isn’t about who is the real Obama this is a strategy to invoke the same ol’ “joe-six-pack” racist American-hatred. It is inappropriate to say you don’t want a black man to be president but not inappropriate to say don’t want a “terrorist!” The McCain/Palin ticket better watch out because they have stirred an old fire that may grow to large to extinguish.
I am a Christian and I am embarrassed to be associated with these people. Republican doesn’t mean Christian, and republican doesn’t mean patriotic! In addition do people not understand there is a difference between Islam (a religion), Arab (an ethnic group-like “white”), and terrorists (an act to create fear for an ideological goal)!
PLEASE AMERICA WAKE UP AND EDUCATE YOURSELF!!
Posted by: Outraged! | October 11, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I’ll see your Pastor and raise you one Witch Doctor!
(not to mention the other Pastors that John McCain “palls” around with!)
Posted by: Paul, CA | October 11, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Our nation is in a mess.
Jeremiah Wright was right.
Until we get a handle on our racial situation, America is damned – economically, politically and otherwise.
Posted by: Lucky Lucy | October 11, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
It sounds like it’s the McCain supporters who are the dumb ones now. It used to be that Obama’s supporters were the mindless ones. These latest supporters are not self-educated. I mean come on! How can anyone confuse Barack Obama with Osama bin Laden? All they care about is terrorists, ignoring the fact that they are losing money every second with this economic crisis. What the hell are they doing? Seems like Palin trying to connect Obama to Ayers is backfiring big time…tut tut tut
Posted by: JNE | October 11, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
That individual who made such an invocation cannot be given the title “pastor”. He does not sound like a true pastor. His prayer just demonstrates that he is as angry and desperate as so many other people in the McCain crowd. I hope the members of the Grace Evangelical Free Church of Davenport, IA will repudiate this person. I expect that they understand God does not discriminate between Republicans and Democrats, as some so-called “pastors” are stating.You cannot win an election at all costs. Let the McCain campaign talk about the issues confronting America, and set aside character assessination. Mr. mcCain himself and Mrs. palin carry the main responsibility in what is unfolding among the Republican constituency. McCain’s attitude is hypocritical and irresponsible. He has loaded the air waves with those same messages, while pretending to consider Obama a “decent Christian, family man.”
Posted by: Félix R. Méndez | October 11, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I’m sure if God is praying for anyone, he’s praying for the souls of these two republicans.
Posted by: pamp205 | October 11, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I did not know that Our Lord God was concerned about His reputation or American politics. ;-)
Posted by: Francheska | October 11, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
It is very sad to see any election be slanted to garner votes through invoking hatred of one candidate from the other. Americans must remember international eyes are on us more than ever, with the election and the economic crisis. The rhetoric that McCain and Palin are invoking will, and is causing more division in this country along the most historic line of hatred in US history, racial lines. If they had a solid platform and position on the issues to stand on, they would not have to question character. They need to think deeper and realize that if they lose the election, it will be President Obama they will have to look to, and he will be leading this country. If hate is stoked now, we don’t need a JFK type event to happen to shatter a country already tattered.
Posted by: Joel | October 11, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I’m extremely proud to be a Christian voting for Obama!
Posted by: Carolina | October 11, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
2 chattyway
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You seem overly concerned about socialism…but seem to forget that Bush is inacting the doctrine of socialism (which is shared risk) right now with the financial meltdown and tax paying citizens footing the cost to prop up the economy. So even IF in a wild blue moon Obama was a socialist…Bush beat him to the punch. ;-)
Posted by: Margie | October 11, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
As a Hindu and as an American. I am offended by McCain Campaign
Posted by: Hemuda | October 11, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
McCain Campaign inciting riots & Tucker Bounds is an idiot, every day this Election is getting out of hand. All of the people at Mcsame’s rallys are shouting out dangerous things we are not living in the old days, stop the damn madness, I do not want to see Obama and his family getting killed over all of this rage and anger.
Posted by: wane | October 11, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
The Pastor’s statements are very unfortunate. Today, organized religion uses all the same tools of branding, marketing and revenue generation like modern businesses. It is time for organized religion to pay their fair share of taxes like any other business when they compete and act as like other businesses.
Posted by: threeriverscrossing | October 11, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Brenda, I encourage you and anyone else who thinks they have the power to judge another’s faith to check out the Matthew 25 network.
Obama/Biden 2008!
Posted by: Carolina | October 11, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
DOES McCain even KNOW what it means to surround himself with the best and the brightest?
You can even make this up.
Posted by: outragedagain | October 11, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Downstater: Bounceback!
Talk about hijacked – your party is overtaken with evangelicals! John McCain is scrambling to stop the madness now. He knows he made a huge mistake letting the religious right control his campaign from the start. He knows he’s got too little time to redeem himself now and he’s desperate against a man of real character, knowledge and grace.
Posted by: RealityByte | October 11, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
2 chattyway
Socialism Defined: A political system that believes in society as a whole sharing ownership of property and the means of production, rather than allowing private individuals to acquire them. The government is heavily involved in providing for citizens needs, such as medical care. Socialism contrasts with capitalism, which is based on competition and little government involvement. In capitalism, individuals must provide for their own needs.
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The Subprime Mess is PURE CAPITALISM–> Greedy lenders giving loans to people with less than great credit because those risky loans would pay in higher interest rates, higher profits. That is not SOCIALISM at all!! And the people who had less then perfect credit and KNEW from jump they could not afford those homes are to blame for this as well. No one made them buy these homes.
Posted by: Francheska | October 11, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
chattyway, your sources of information are the scary thing here.
Posted by: carolina | October 11, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Sooo, this “pastor” is saying that all of these “other” religions are praying to their God that Obama wins, and how scary/awful that is and his so-called Christian God must listen to only the people that are praying for the GOP candidate, so everybody pray pray pray for McCain to win! INTOLERANT at best, disgusting things for him to say. Scary that people agree with him!
Posted by: shelleyt | October 11, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
As a white Christian woman from the midwest I am so ashamed of this behavior. My God does not condone hate. As an Independent I have already written to the RNC 3 times this week complaining about these rallies. If this keeps up it will tarnish the Republican brand for years.
Posted by: Teri | October 11, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
as a pro-life catholic and democrat..i’m very proud of the campain sen Obama has run…i just want a president to be truthfull with the american poeple. Even though I wish more democrats were pro-life I for one will not let one issue change my vote
Posted by: mike masse | October 11, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
This is a real embarrassment to the GOP. McCain is not just losing HIS campaign, he destroying the Republican brand so that Dems will have historic wins in every other race as well. RIP GOP.
Posted by: val | October 11, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
I’m sure if God is praying for anyone, he’s praying for the souls of these two republicans. Posted by: pamp205 | Oct 11, 2008 7:04:54 PM Who is it you think God prays to?
Posted by: professorj | October 11, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Can it please be a requirement that people research their “news” before sharing it here. It’s exhausting trying to explain to people that email forwards are not reputable sources of information.
Posted by: Carolina | October 11, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
The most intelligent voters know this election is about what kind of judges the president is going to appoint to the Supreme Court. Since McCain and Obama are both liberal, you know what’s coming. McCains nomimeees will be just as liberal as Obamas.
Posted by: mary | October 11, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Thank you, Mike Masse. I agree with you 100%. Class and truth will rule out, overall.
Posted by: RealityByte | October 11, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Asking God to “step forward” and show up those other Gods. How bizarre.
Methinks it’s the honorable pastor’s ego showing, what say?
Posted by: Maggie | October 11, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
I am sure that God has more important things to do than worry about the outcome of an American election, especially since HE already knows the outcome. ;-)Let us all pray for both the campaigns, whether we are Hindus, Muslims, Christians or Jews, because after this, whoever the next President is…he will have to bring this country thru some very hard times and bring us all back together as a Nation that is divided amongst itself. ;-).
Posted by: Margie | October 11, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
This is why we need education in America. If this is how the pastor thinks, what about all the people who listen to his sermons !!!
No wonder there are so many still backing McCain and Palin.
Posted by: Jason | October 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Another three weeks of this and McCain’s “base” will be down to a trailer park bowling league somewhere in Oklahoma.
Posted by: arthur2008 | October 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
To that Margie, I say a hearty AMEN!!
Posted by: PBM | October 11, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Although our nation’s economic house is on fire, John McCain isn’t unveiling proposals to put out the fiscal flames. Instead, he is pursuing the presidency by taking the low road, as he and his surrogates attack Barack Obama in harsh, personal terms. It’s hard to believe this is the same man who in 2004 said of the Swift-boat attacks against John Kerry: “I deplore this kind of politics. I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable.”
Posted by: wags | October 11, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Obama is assuredly NOT a socialist and the attempts to paint him as such in these comments are completely inane. The problem here is that the right is so far right that they have forgotten where the center is.
Posted by: Josh | October 11, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
GOP will be NO MORE after this election cycle!!!
Posted by: wags | October 11, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Mr. Lewis is correct in his assessment of McCain & Palin rhetoric. What they have been doing on the campaign trail is reminiscence of the 1950 & 1960’s and the attacks that were perpetrated against blacks in this country! For anyone to say that this was not going to be the end result of this type of rhetoric is fooling themselves. The only reason McCain back-tracked is because he was losing by a bigger margin in the polls nationally and in the battle ground states. It blew up in their face and the only people who were energized were the Republican base, not the independents or moderates! Be careful what you ask for, is what my dear old Mom used to say…When you talk about killing someone, it might be you end up getting hurt in the process… These idiots would very quickly find out that it’s not the 1950’s & 1960’s…
Posted by: Greg285 | October 11, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
I attended a rally in Indiana for OBAMA on Weds. Let me tell you, there were over 25,000 at the State Fairgrounds,,,this is Indiana people, this state has not voted democratic since 1964… Well, guess what a new poll is showing that OBAMA may be ready to take the lead and early voting is at a HIGH!!! Can you believe it, OBAMA is going to carry INDIANA…
Posted by: wags | October 11, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
I am so tired of hearing everyone saying Obama is a socialist. Everyone that has this deep seeded fear please feel free to return the stimulus checks from last spring, afterall you wouldn’t want to accept a handout from the government.
Posted by: Teri | October 11, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Of all the pastors in this country how did McCain manage to find this clown !!
I have to say, he has an extreme ability to attract dumb people.
Posted by: Jason | October 11, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Don’t let the far-right crazy extremists make the entire Republican party look bad. Republicans, step up and talk about how we can debate without character assassinations and ugly rhetoric.
Posted by: Seth | October 11, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Our real colors as a Nation are starting to bleed through. The supressed and hidden Racism is starting to eat at the table right next to us. MCcain and Palin fed it table scraps until it could stand on its own, and now this sick,seething,foaming at the mouth, blood thirsty animal is back and hungrier than ever. If you throw rocks at a sleeping Grizzley ,when He arrises, Hungry,blind with anger-then guess what, he kills and destroys everything in sight. A race war brokerd by Palins ignorance of our country’s past and McCains obviuous disdane for a younger “Black” Man is gonna take attention of the economic woes allright and the sick thing is McCains own Daughter , a person of color could end up paying a disasterous price ecause of some sick mis-guided racist taking Palins Rhetoric to heart. Sweet Jesus, They know not what they’ve done and now we all will pay a terrible toll.
Posted by: Roger Howard | October 11, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
McCain’s Presidential Campaign has been hijacked from him. He really is a pretty decent guy, but every since Palin has been on his ticket, it seems to have gone downhill. Do you want to know the real reason why? 3 words, look up the meaning, and start viewing this in a different way: Domination by the Religious Right, this is not an attack on the Democratic Party, rather it is Theocracy vs Democracy. People are being distracted into thinking the Democratic Party is promoting Socialism, and it is not. But, the message you don’t hear, and what is not being reported is that the Religious Right believes they have the God given Right to Rule the World and the People. Now, I’m a Christian, who reads the Bible, and believe God’s commandment to love Him, and one another, our neighbors. When a Religion want to rule the world and impose Christianity on everyone….well, look at the radical muslims and you see what we’ll end up with. Many will not read this post, some will not be able to comprehend and attack. But, it does not negate that this is what is really going on. You see, being a Christian is not going to be enough….you must be a “True Christian” as defined by them. The rest of us will be “governed” and not allowed to hold office. In fact, they are in favor of repealing several Constitutional Issues.
Posted by: MyAudacity | October 11, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Christ was not pro-war. Christ was strongly in favor of helping the poor. Christ was anti-gluttony. Christ was obviously NOT a Republican. The republicans have tried to hijack Christ for their own selfish ends. This needs to stop. Don’t elect McCain.
Posted by: Rick_VT | October 11, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
AAAAHHHHHH!!! MAKE IT STOP!
Seriously!! The audacity of this ‘pastor’.
Are they doing this on purpose to bring up Rev Wright?
Posted by: Kelly | October 11, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
If Palin had even a miniscule amount of dignity and/or ethics, she would ask to be removed from the ticket so that McCain might have a remote chance to win the election.
She doesn’t get it. She doesn’t deserve any kind of government post and simply can’t be trusted.
As for being a born again Christian … doesn’t look like it to me.
Obama acts like way more of a Christian than she does.
Praying Obama wins.
May the Republican party rest in peace.
Posted by: Paul | October 11, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
I think McCain knew what he was doing all along. The McCain camp is trying to give the media something scandalous to focus on, to overshadow Palin’s abuse of power verdict in AK. He;s also betting he can get some undecided votes from Obama if the subject changes from economy to race. I knew there was something funny about McShame making such a wild move and telling his supporters that he respects Obama after all the lies and smears approved by him from his campaign. Let’s keep talking about healthcare, education, foreign policy, economy, real issues, and let’s make sure we all work harder everyday to elect the Democratic ticket Obama/Biden. Talk to your friends, neighbors, co-workers, family. Explain the issues, debunk the smears, and make sure people show up and vote.
Obama/biden 2008
Posted by: Miguel | October 11, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Why does Obama have to be bad for McCain to be good?
That is the tenor of their campaign. I want you to vote for me by voting against this guy. Not that I have anything to offer you, and he does….but he’s a bad man….
The good news is there really are more intelligent people than ignorant ones, who just need an excuse to feed their biases.
Another thought……didn’t the last time a Pastor prayed for the Democratic Convention to be torrentially rained out, yet it was the Republican Party who had to cancel the 1st night of their Convention due to a hurricane (which thanks to God was not as bad as expected), nevertheless there is a certain irony in that. Maybe people should be careful of what they pray for. It reminds me of Balaam, he wanted to curse the Israelites after God had specifically told him not to do so because they were Blessed, His chosen people. But Balaam decides to do it anyways, yet everytime he opened his mouth to curse them, blessings came out. Read Numbers chapter 22, it’s really interesting, and a reminder that we should be very careful about whom we try to curse.
Posted by: MyAudacity | October 11, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
If God’s a Republican then the Devils gone Home. His Work is done. So this is what the Republican Right really thinks HUH? That they are not only entitled….to everything, but now we know for sure that they think God is thier personal Pontif.They think “Why would God bother with poor people, or Blacks or Asians or Hispanics or any other race that isn’t white. Well NEWS FLASH, Jesus loved the poor and the under privlidged and Hey Guess what, Jesus wasn’t white- have you ever seen someone thats lived in a Desert enviorment thier whole life in a baking ,hot Sun and not be at least brown? God is for all of except Sarah Palin because even though she can see Russia from her back yard apparrently she can’t see God. Its hard to seewhat you never look for.
Posted by: Roger Howard | October 11, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Again, those supporting the Democratic ticket, it is more important to actually talk to people you know, tell them about factcheck.org, or fightthesmears.com, and if possible contact your local Obama camp office and find a way to volunteer, or just go to barackobama.com and you’ll find ways to make this possible. This next 24 days we will see all kinds of wild and crazy moves from the GOP, they want to stay in power and they will do whatever it takes, so the closer it gets to election day the harder we have to work to make sure the don’t do what they did in 2000 or 2004. Let’s work hard, folks.
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Miguel | October 11, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
McCain, just trying to change the subject, again and again.
Posted by: Miguel | October 11, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
McCain’s campaign was irresponsible in allowing these attacks to go on as long as they did and it sounds like the only reason he has started to try to calm the irrational anger and prejudice that his own campaign has generated is because it is backfiring against him so badly. When you do one thing and the people in your campaign do another its hard to believe that you are telling the truth. McCain used to be someone that I thought I could respect, but this McCain isn’t worthy of my time, much less my vote.
This new America that McCain and Palin want to create, one where the truth is anything that you want it to be with no regard for the actual facts. An America where your character is questioned and assaulted because you live near someone, or know someone who is not judged worthy. The Patriot Act has already eroded our civil rights to the point that this country is close to losing the very basic rights that it was founded on. The Republican’s party’s view of big government is very different from my own. A government that leaves it’s people to suffer, let’s companies run amok with no regulation, and wants to control every thing that we do or say is a lot bigger in my eyes than one that supports my civil rights and provides the basic services and controls that a civilized nation should have.
No amount of “social programs” or even earmarks is going to come close to the cost of the war. We have been lied to for the last 8 years, with an administration that manipulated the facts to meet their needs. McCain and Palin are doing the same thing in their campaign, does anyone really think that is going to suddenly change if they win the election?
Posted by: Liz | October 11, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
I am ashamed of the republicans and fox news, the republican propaganda station for destroying Mr. Ayers life for a vote. The republicans keep trying to convince people what fine christians they are, but what they are doing to Mr. Ayers is a disgrace, and all for a vote. I am sad for Mr. Ayers, as a human being and his wife, another human being, because they are being used to get people to change their minds about voting for Obama. This has become sickening. And when I see Sarah palin stand up and talk about how Obama needs to be honest, I think, what a hypocrit. The republicans are trying to steal this election by hook or crook. It’s called winning at any cost. Shame on these people. It reminds me of what they did to Jesus. It has now become the “Mob Mentality.” All for a vote, what shame.
Posted by: Celina | October 11, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
I remember a friend telling me that in school she waitressed at a bar in Indiana and that a bright young black man also a student came in. She actually feared for him enough to suggest that he not stay long for his own safety. If Obama is doing well then thank the Lord. By the way, me thinks the pastor a tad paranoid and maybe clouded by fear and doubt. Faith and love have zero to do with party affiliation. Could the Lord possibly live by such narrow confines. Besides such a comparison is worldly thinking. There is nothing to fear one can always rely on faith.
Posted by: akamai | October 11, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
soooo.. this “pastor” is implying that Senator Obama isn’t a Christen???? Shame on him.
Not to mention that poor excuse of a human being with his monkey doll slyly removing the Obama sticker and then slipping the doll to a little boy so he wouldn’t… what.. get caught with it??? What is wrong with this picture? Is McCain proud of all this?
The morning after the Republican convention I thought maybe I had entered the Twilight Zone… now I am convinced of it.
Posted by: Linda | October 11, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
If we can set aside politics for a moment and look at its is clear that both sides have some explaining to do.
Calling in to question Senator Obama’s pass associations is a legitimate matter. Were he applying for employment federal Government or private sector, or seeking clearance he would be subject to a back ground check. We all know that. If Ayers name came up or some of the other doggy associates he would be viewed with similar suspicion. That is simply the facts of life. Right?
Obama, by trivializing the inquiry with I was 8 years old is wrong and is avoiding the issue because he knows the period in question is after he became an educated adult. And, because it’s political suicide to admit now except he is caught, which of course is what he has done as new information leaks out.
McCain’s Ideas to bring it front and center is expected. His approach is wrong.
Posted by: Kenwin | October 11, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
This is a man hiding behind the cloth. He will need to answer to the God he prays for this. Obama may be a man sent and won’t all the right be surprised. Remember the Bible says you will deny me.
Posted by: Issie | October 11, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Sarah Palin brings up the word abortion in a rally, Republicans use this word every four years but what they dont tell you is the thousands of Innocent civilians that have died because of the two wars. How can the Republicans be pro-life when it comes to unborn babies but from infant to adult your life means nothing, you can’t have it both ways !!
Posted by: jg5012 | October 11, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
It is ridiculous to assert as one poster did that Obama’s “associations” are fair game as they would be required to be examined in, for instance, a job applicatiohn. That is absurd. I serve and have served on numerous community boards, and never, I mean never has the past of one of the members been used against me or any other person. Nor am I aware of any job interview that has required an applicant to explain the backgrounds of the people he may have served with on community boards. Let’s stay real. This is a red herring and it is time everyone, media included, moved away from it.
Posted by: sharon barbosa | October 11, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
People have the nerve to question Obama and his friends, but what about Palin and the AIP. Todd was a member of this group. And their leader, Vogler, was an America-hater McCain was on the board of the US Council for World Freedom who assisted the Contra and help sell weapons to Iran. McCain helped Sunco buddies get a sweetheart deal on public land, then of course there’s Charles Keating who his wife kept ties with….so before you start throwing stone make sure you don’t live in a glass house
Posted by: rose | October 11, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
People have already determined their candidate pretty much but Mr. McCain is operating in a frenzy as cooked-up charges keep getting more gossipy. Mr. Obama is actually responding to them indifferently and that’s appropriate. Mr. McCain is creating his own little world with his party. Frenzied gossip of a pajama party. In the meantime Obama remains steady and focused on what matters. He’s just not the John McCain I supported even 6-7 years ago in AZ.
Posted by: akamai | October 11, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
In Canada, this kind of thing would be considered a hate crime.
Who are you (Pastor Conrad) to say your God is better than anyone else’s …. what is God now a Republican?
Unbelievable …
Posted by: Paul_in_Vanc | October 11, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Exactly I agree with the person who wrote about serving on boards. It’s an elected post and I never palled around with any board members I’ve served with. In fact on the contrary. It’s just business and the agenda is set beforehand. They both were involved with education and the poor in Chicago. Often the meetings are about once per month. The inuendo McCain/Palin is vigilante style assumption. The funding source for their particular project supported John McCain and Mr. Ayers received an award for the work he did with it. So stop beating a dead moose or wolf or polar bear.
Posted by: akamai | October 11, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Just who is the real Sarah Palin, palling around with liars.
Posted by: jg5012 | October 11, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Gretchenmom…………………………….Please read Proverbs 22:16 and see which party helps the poor or turn their back on them.
Posted by: jg5012 | October 11, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Does Palin have any virtues at all??
Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Tell Obama that this is still the United States of America. He is the one that has angered americans because he has lied. The story he gave at the debate; evolved to another story when he was discovered to have lied again; then it evolved to Axelrod saying Obama didn’t know Ayers was a terrorist and then finally he said that he knew, but thought he had rehabbed because he was so well respected in Chicago.
That is the judgement that we question.
Why is it when a hard question is ask of Obama it is racist and when it is asked of anyone else it is termed seeking the truth. McCain didn’t stoke this fire Obama did!
Obama and Pelosi came out and pointed fingers at McCain and the republicans. it was them who wouldn’t address the mess at Fannie & Freddie. This was a lie, McCain and the republicans tried over and over again to address the issue, but it was blocked by the bought and paid for dems.
Not a black or white issue it is a green issue. The green is missing from our retirement accounts and now they are going to increase taxes because of their misdealings.
Posted by: ubu1991 | October 11, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
And where are the legitimate religious leaders in this country that need to get control of these clowns and expose them for the frauds and bigots that they are?
Posted by: Alan | October 11, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
How sick can this be? A pastor praying for something like this…..May God help us all if McCain is to win this election……We have become a nation of hate!!!! I was going to vote for McCain until he switch to hateful attacks and lies….I will now vote for the first time as a voter for a democrat…Yes for Obama!!!
Posted by: Julie | October 11, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
So according to this Pastor Arnold, Democrats and Republicans don’t pray to the same God? Is he out of his evangelical mind?
Posted by: smor | October 11, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
@Gretchenmom
I was so moved by what you wrote and you are absolutely right. I am a woman and a long time democrat who believes that we must find a way to limit the number of abortions in this country by eliminating the need for them. I know that the only way that will happen is if women come together to ensure that reproductive education and adoption are given a greater priority. But we cannot do it unless we can get past the rhetoric of extremism. Thank you for your very thoughtful comment.
Posted by: Angry American Voter | October 11, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Hey Jake where is your blog on ACORN, Obamas deep connection to them, Ayers, and Obamas lies?
Posted by: Joseph | October 11, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Thank you, Gretchenmom!
Posted by: SusanFromTX | October 11, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
We all know who John McCain is, we know of his younger days in the Navy, his time in captivity, his years in Senate, some of them not so good for his reputation, his flinging with women his houses, his cars his grades at annapolis, how many planes he crashed, his hot temper and his reputation of working with the opposite side to the chagrin of some of his supporters. Yet, we know nothing of Obamas college days in New york, how and who paid for his Harvard Education or exactly his accomplishments as a community activist. And other what he wants us to know in his books there are not many people that I have heard talk of all these periods of time. Character should mean something to all of us and I am not suggesting his friendship with black nationalist such as Wright or a man who use to be named Don Sutton or even his freindship with Mr. Ayers is any of my business but we are all judged, whether fair or not, by the company we keep.
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You are so right and since I have lived with some really awful brothers that have done terrible things, I have made my choice. My brothers did not corrupt me because I am an individual and I make my own choice. I still love them and even visit with them when possible. I hope that their lives will not one day cost me my success.
That is exactly why Obama is getting my vote. If we can look over the things McCain has done in his life time, and he actually did them, not an assoicate; then, I am sure people can overlook an associate that did something to someone when Obama was 8; and when it comes to pastors, all of the candidates should be disqualified if this is the measure by which we measure who should be our next president.
Obama/Biden
Posted by: Angelene | October 11, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
We have truly become a nation of hate, McCain is using the same tactic of fear just as Jesse Helms did against Harvey Gantt in the 1990 Senate race.
Posted by: jg5012 | October 11, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
ACORN has been investigated how many times? 9 I believe. How many have gone to jail? None, I believe.
This is just another gimmick and the media knows it. SO to those that complain about why the media is not doing this or that. Please tell me how you learned of ACORN and Obama? I rest my case.
Posted by: Angelene | October 11, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Joseph,
We (and the entire MSM) are done with that Ayers, Acorn nonsense now…
Now we are talking about the McCain/Palin ANGRY MOB SCENES and how Palin is a LIAR and criminal in the Troopergate report.
GET WITH IT!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 11, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
McCain is having trouble on three fronts, Obama, the Economy and now Palin and now Joe Six Pack wont listen to her!!!!
Posted by: jg5012 | October 11, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
The McCain campaign is playing from the bottom of the deck. They have been exposed for their falsehoods and hypocrisy. However, the mob is still revving the engine and things could spin out of control. When are responsible Republicans going to step forward and say, “Enough!” The country would commend them for their non-partisan act of doing what’s right, but it will probably not happen.
Posted by: SilverFoxUna | October 11, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
ubu1991 – you are SO correct – it comes back to the Public Financing issue – which Obama backed out of – guess who’s paying for the MSM democratic propapanda? We all just covered Wall Street like an endless overdraft account to fund the Obama campaign…
Posted by: hummingbird | October 11, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Joseph,
And the next subjects up for discussion as we approach the election, are McCain’s increasing senility and Todd Palin’s deep involvement in Troopergate as a “SHADOW” Governor!!
SO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME!!
Posted by: Davis | October 11, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
The kind of desperation exibited by the Republicans indicates that this is the death rattle of the GOP … RIP
Posted by: Paul | October 11, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Gretchenmom: GOD BLESS YOU! You are absolutely correct. Thankfully the Lord above also blessed you with WISDOM. May it spread and inspire others to follow in your footsteps.
Posted by: Sassy | October 11, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
In response to “Moderate” regarding John McCain’s rebuke of those lunatics yelling violence and hatred at rallies:
1. There is uncertainty if “kill him” was meant for Bill Ayres or Obama. Neither is acceptable. There is, however, no doubt about who the target (including “off with his head”) was for most of these epithets — Barack Obama. The bigger issue here, of course, is the momentum by McCain’s campaign to unleash such divisiveness and anger. It’s dangerous and reprehensible, regardless of who is the target, and would be equally reprehensible if emanating from Obama’s campaign. But it is not!!!
2. My anger at John McCain continues because even as he rebuked his audience, the inflaming rhetoric continued in his campaign. Sarah Palin has not “dialed it back,” nor has she suggested anyone else should. To my mind, this proves that McCain was responding to pressure rather than being enough of a leader to stem the tide of the fear and hatred they have been unleashing and legitimizing.
3. I’m not sure what you mean about Obama’s “fluid” accounts of his interactions with Bill Ayers, and the implication that there is some deep, abiding policy advising or connection going on between the two men. For heaven’s sake! He knew the guy slightly — sat on a board with him; met him occasionally in the course of a career in law, community engagement, and politics. And whatever Bill Ayers did in his youth, he’s now a respected member of the Chicago educational community. Republicans and Democrats alike who have worked with the two men on the Annenberg Foundation project have stated that it’s preposterous to think this is some great conspiracy.
Beyond that, while I most certainly don’t condone the actions of any militant protest organization that uses or speaks violence, Ayres’ activities were in the context of the 1960′s when college students had been killed on the Kent State campus, Civil Rights activists were being brutalized and killed, etc.
The rhetoric of that era exploded into fear and violence — this is precisely why John McCain and all those affiliated with him needs to take care. We are in a time of great crisis, and it looks like it’s going to get worse before it gets better. Our leaders MUST work to create calm and communication between people of opposing viewpoints — we are near to a flashpoint, when irrational, overly-frightened and angry people on any end of the political spectrum could move to violence.
We need rational, responsible voices that bring us together, not further inflame that divide. John McCain has proven that he does not have that ability — whether or not he has the drive to.
Posted by: Leigh | October 11, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Before a McCain rally, said Pastor Arnold Conrad of the Grace Evangelical Free Church of Davenport, Iowa: “I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November… Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation…. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day.”
Does this sound like a “God-fearing Christian”?
What he’s saying is that God had just better
let McCain and Palin win or He’ll tarnish His
name forever, at least with GOP supporters.
Since when do Christian minister dictate to
God? Isn’t it supposed to be the other way
around? Of all the claptrap I’ve heard and
read from religious-right nuts, this has to be the
nuttiest.
Posted by: bryony1 | October 11, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
This is scary, plain scary. (that’s an understatement)
I hope this is as low as they go. Racist comments should not be tolerated in this country.
Posted by: tennisguypitt | October 11, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Obama has the king of hate endorsing him these days Louis Farrakhan. Where is the story about this JAKE??????
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
WAKE UP AMERICA !!!! OBAMA is a SOCIALIST in sheeps cloathing , Facts are facts . He has THE most liberal voting record in the US senate . WHAT gives hime the right to raise taxes on well off people that have busted their ##### to get to where they are ? What IS “fair ” according to him is nothing more than income redistribution AKA socialism !!!!! What gives him the right to hand out checks to people that have never worked a day in their life .!!!! Facts are facts HE WILL raise taxes on every one in order to support his LIBERAL SOCIALIST agenda . IT is the only way to pay for his HANDOUTS … I will never put a LIAR or any one that has the acquaintances that he has behind him in the OVAL OFFICE …
Posted by: Kevin | October 11, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Jake Where is the blog about the hateful racist FARRAKHAN endorsing OBAMA and calling the FRAUD a MESSIAH?
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
“because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god—whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah—that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons. And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens.”
Somehow that manages to be funny, pathetic, and scary all at the same time.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Defenders of the faith, you are trying to say that Palins crime is ‘frivolous’. Would you like to be in a position where you have to break statutes or lose your job?
Palin’s requirement that her people use Yahoo is such a matter. She is being sued now for that. She uses Yahoo to avoid detection by the Freedom of Information requests of the Sierra club attempting to monitor her and by the Native Americans, also attempting to keep up with her dealings.
Imagine being a citizen working for the governor and being told to stop using the statute mandated state system and go to Yahoo so your friends and neighbors cannot use due process to control government.
Posted by: Bruce Becker | October 11, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Complete with fancy production values like a camera mounted on a crane, The leader of the Nation of Islam refers to Barrack Obama as “the messiah” before a crowd of Black Muslims. See it yourself. But of course, do not judge Obama because he went to the Million Man March, or because his pastor of 20 years was a good pal of Farrakhan. And don’t suppose that Farrakhan is more than just another guy in Barrack Obama’s neighborhood on the Southside of Chicago.
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Kevin….this must be your first time voting.
Posted by: Simple4life | October 11, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Sarah Palin is the best choice of all 4 candidates by a long shot. Obama is an exposed SOCIALISTIC, RACIST, ANTI AMERICAN, who is in bed with ACORN AYERS ALINSKY AUCHI, and I’m not even out of the A’s yet.
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
McCain owes me an apology. I nearly voted for him in 2000. He has become a different person than the man I supported. I have to vote Obama, who demonstrates courage, wisdom, calm, decency and a real concern for all people. I am ok with the talk of socialism. I dont mind seeing health care for all who want it. The ones who want to buy high priced insurance are welcome to it. And I am so done with the lies about victory in Iraq. Bush is withholding the intelligence report, because it supports Obama.
The report indicates that the Iraq war could blow up any second. There have been no successful negotiations to split up the oil. There have been no successful negotiations to address the needs and fears of the Kurds in Iraq and Turkey and Iran and Russia. Why? Bush probably likes having the war to stir up the rednecks. The rest of you better wake up.
The call for victory in Iraq by McCain is a sham. No victory of troops is possible, according to the Bush intelligence report, McClatchy news reports. Obama is right on Iraq. Its about negotiations.
Posted by: Bruce Becker | October 11, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Racist Separatist Farrakhan strongly endorses his “messiah” Obama
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Obama owes all of America an apology for his BLATENT LIES about the extent of his relationship with Ayers, Acorn Rezko, and Fannie Mae for starters. Then he needs to ride his camel into the setting sun with a one way ticket.
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
WAKE UP AMERICA !!!! OBAMA is a SOCIALIST in sheeps cloathing , Facts are facts
Would that be giving US tax dollars to the bankers?
That’s McCain’s housing plan, you know.
$300 billion to the banks. Is that socialist enough for you?
What’s your beef with socialism/liberalism anyway?
They are just words you cannot spell.
That would be “sheep’s clothing”.
Be specific. You dont want children to get healthcare? You dont want elderly to have healthcare? What’s your beef with socialism, really?
Did I miss something? Be specific and omit the name calling. It doesnt add anything to the consideration. This is a consideration, you know.
No one is telling the rest of us what to do. You are not a dictator of ideas, so spell it out.
England got your tongue? Dont you think we can do it better than they do? Canada got your tongue?
Again, dont you think, if you made it a priority, we can make a GREAT medical system?
Not enough MD’s? How about a federal med school in every part of the country? Let them pay for school and room and board with a few years of service. Bet there would be a lot of voluteers?
Posted by: Bruce Becker | October 11, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
I am appalled that the McCain followers would allow Palin to continue with the wild rhetoric. I am reminded of the radicals in the middle east that take crowds and incite them into burning embassies and killing people. Who is he to criticize Obama for being in an educational meeting that included the president of Northwestern University also. Her husband was in the AIP which worked for Alaska to secede from the United States and whose leader was blatantly anti-american. How can she claim to be Christian and spew such hatred. It is sad to see how many people in their audiences take her word as gospel and never bother to investigate whether there is any truth to what she says.
I had always respected and admired Senator McCain. He has said he would lead a clean campaign but his memory must be failing him because there is nothing but garbage being spewed.
Posted by: kay437 | October 11, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Alaways blogs that are negative to Palin, and MCcain, while Obama ACORN Farrakhan, Ayers, CAC, etc go uninvestigated, or reported on by mainstream media. That is PURE EVIL.
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Palin’s game is lie and deny. “I didnt break laws”.
Really? How about breaking a statute?
Posted by: Bruce Becker | October 11, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Sarah Palin needs to continue exposing Obama for the FRAUD he is because the cowardly media wont do it. SARAH PALIN ROCKS!!!!!!!
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
By the way? Is it Barack Obama, or Barry Soetero? I’m confused. Did he have Dual citizenship while in Indonesia attending Islamic studies?
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Obama is a radical and his past,background scares a lot of people. Like it or not, there are lot of people in America who think Obama is a Muslim or with some connections to that religion and they dont want him as President.
Posted by: Greg h | October 11, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I believe that when a preacher crosses the line and starts to dive into politics and endorsing candidates, their church should loose their tax exempt status for 4 years. I believe this would stifel the problem.
Posted by: greg | October 11, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Let me get this straight…
It’s okay for Americans to hate foreigners and be racist, but it’s not okay for foreigners to criticize American policy. Notice a touch of hypocrisy there?
Truth is, many of these alleged allegations about Ayers, Rezko, ACORN, and others are more complicated than they seem and have been proved wrong by nonpartisan organizations. They are mere smear tactics. So stop believing Limbaugh, Hannity, and O’Reilly.
Posted by: tennisguypitt | October 11, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
In response to “Pastor” Arnold Conrad, Obama is your brother in Christ. Have you not heard him confess this with his own mouth??? McCain has not publicly done so, as of today, and you turn on Obama as if he is the anti-Christ? You’re so caught up in your own self-righteousness and partisanship, you can’t recognize that support from all walks of life and beliefs is a good thing. Did you not know that good examples of Christianity is what draws the unbeliever to Christ? From what bible do you teach, “Conrad’s Book of Life”? Does not Christ call for us to reach out to all, and to understand that all are called but not all will come? How come, then, do you only teach to believers? How effective is your ministry with this small-mindedness? Did you forget that Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost? Who were you before you came to Christ? You’re an embarrassment to true Christians, Conrad! You exemplify characteristics of the scribe and Pharisee!! Shame on you! Retract your call for prayer against your brother, idiot!
Posted by: Coherent1 | October 11, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Since when is wanting a half deranged trooper who has a licence to carry a gun, and a tazer fired a bad thing, when he admittedly tazered a 10 year old kid, shot moose illegaly, and alledgedly threatening to kill her family members.
Oh yea, I forgot Obama, and his supporters are all for born alive babies not recieving medical attention.
How dare that baby be born alive.
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Senator John McCain, you need to hang it up, son. You made a bad choice in selecting Sarah Palin as your VP. What could you have been thinking. You should have selected Ron Paul as your VP, You could have been sailing by now. Ron Paul is a very smart man. I like him.
Posted by: mary | October 11, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Anyone that’s votes for Obama is just wrong.
Posted by: pumphouseplus | October 11, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Jen
What do you call a man who chose to join and remain in a racially divisive church. Here is Obama in his own words
OBAMA: I ceased to advertise my mother’s race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.
From Dreams of My Father: I found a solace in nursing a pervasive
sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.
From Dreams of My Father: There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.
From Dreams of My Father: It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.
From Dreams of My Father: I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.
From Audacity of Hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
If you need anymore proof, Just ask Obamas “typical white grandmother”
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
The MSM misses? How about missing Cindy McCain and her father maintaining ties to Keating for over a decade following his conviction, and the $$ they made? As posted earlier, how about Sarah and Todd and the secessionists? If you don’t READ, you don’t know that the Annenberg Challenge which Obama was involved in as a Board member –well Mr. Annenberg, the UK Ambassador under Nixon, obviously didn’t KNOW that Mr. Ayers had bombed US stuff when he granted him $42+ million for Chicago,(his daughter must not have known either)
but the story goes:An 8-member Board of Directors made up of representatives of organizations that had no vested interest in Annenberg money was recruited to approve grants, hire an executive director and project staff, and determine which funds could count towards the required $98.4 million match.[19][35] The Board of Directors was handpicked by Adele Smith Simmons, president of the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, who was asked by Gregorian to “work with foundation leadership to create a board that would be diverse, including people from the community, business interests and civic leaders, and include no more than nine people.”[19][35]
At a meeting with Simmons and Patricia Albjerg Graham, Deborah Leff suggested that Barack Obama would make a good board chairman.[37] After meeting and being impressed by Obama, Graham told Obama that she wanted him to be chairman of the Board of Directors.[37] Obama said that he would agree to serve as chairman if Graham would be vice chairman, to which Graham agreed.[37]
A 23-member group of Chicago parents, teachers, activists, funders, administrators, local school council members and academics who were involved in school reform, called the Chicago School Reform Collaborative, was chosen to design the initial Request for Proposals….
You can sit on the Board with people, work on a specific project with them and not KNOW them. Been there, done it.
It is possible to live near and work with people about whom you know very little. How many of YOU, if you heard the name William Ayers before 2006 would have remembered THE William Ayers of the 1960s? I was 18 in 1969, I didn’t remember. I would have worked right with him and never known. Ooops.
Posted by: Teeninchee | October 11, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
DISGUSTING !!! I’M JEWISH… I “AM SURE”
MY GOD IS NOT A REPUBLICAN !!! THIS GUY “DOES NOT REPRESENT MY GOD” !!!
Posted by: Levi | October 11, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Can you tell how worried the Obama koolaid drinkers are about Sarah Palin still? They realize that she is the real deal, with a real record to stand on, executive expeience. Obama couldnt even clean up his district of Southside Chicago, how is going to clean up this country? He’s not
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
The another main reason for this anger is many Americans see the media covering up their favourite candidate Obama’s past, his connection with radicals and his lunatic policies.
If the media did its job then Americans would not have been angry.
The ridiculous state of politics thanks to media is such that any criticism of Obama =racism.
Posted by: Greg h | October 11, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
It sounds like all of the conspiracy theorists are converging on the Palin rallies- McCarthyism conspiracy theorists, shadow government conspiracy theorists, terrorism conspiracy theorists, xenophobic conspiracy theorists. While every vote counts, these people color “legitimately concerned on issues” citizens who support the McCain ticket in an unfavorable light.
These are dressings on what would’ve been outright racial slurs 2 – 3 decades ago.
Raising socialism or terrorism conspiracy theories as the main reason to not vote Obama makes the person sound like they agree and could’ve voted for his policies if they didn’t fear him based on loony conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Animal Farmish | October 11, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Don in Fl: I think I love you.
Render unto Cesar that which is Cesar’s.
In othr (Christ’s) words…church and state are separate. If you want to spread your faith…please, go forth and do so. It is not the state’s job to do so.
I think Obama could be our own personal Charles II (of England). Let The Restoration begin.
Posted by: colleen | October 11, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Coherent
Obama had no choice but to denounce Farrakhan,,,,,,,and Wright, and Pfleger, and Rezko, and Ayers,and Acorn, etc. The Pattern is obvious and troubling. You people are out of your minds.
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
“Since when is wanting a half deranged trooper who has a licence to carry a gun, and a tazer fired a bad thing, when he admittedly tazered a 10 year old kid, shot moose illegaly, and alledgedly threatening to kill her family members.”
You know what, that sounds trumped up if you really look at it. He used his wife’s hunting license, that is what you object to, while Caribou barbie gets in her chopper and machine guns down wolves for sport (maybe she did or didn’t have a license for that, and who really cares?) The taser thing: I got ten bucks it was the kind of thing where the kid, like me, would probably ask his dad to try it out, but no, they make it sound like he didn’t finish all his peas and got the usual tasering. As for the ALLEGED death threats, I think I’ll call the police and tell them my ex-wife made a death threat to me and my father. You see how easy it is to pick the crap apart when it is a divorce war? Just drop defending Palin. I have seen quite enough to see she is strong in political maneuvering (whether against a ex-brother-in-law or a presidential candidate), and that she has no genuine intelligence of which to speak.
Posted by: Bob | October 11, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Wwe spiritual folks need to get our wits about us and stop being duped. President Obama is the only hope in my lifetime that abortions will halt. During the Clinton administration abortions dropped 34% because of the political and economic stability. Bush has done nothing except use the pro-life vote to get elected. Democrats are the only ones who will seriously deal with the cause of abortion and promote healthy families.
Posted by: JT | October 11, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
I wish everybody could just look at the connections that MOST of the politicians have. Start McCain, Palin, Obama, Biden and then continue through Washington and then go from state to state. Because Obama is newer to the scene, he actually has fewer crazy connections than Biden and McCain. Palin? In stead of praying for God to do A or B for or against a particular candidate and our own wishes, maybe we need to be praying that God will lead the leader and get us out of this mess our leaders have gotten us into. An Obama president would not be governing on his own. The reason I worry more about a McCain Palin team is that maverickishness that chooses to go its own way, refusing to listen. We are in trouble in this country. PERIOD.
Posted by: Teeninchee | October 11, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Palin doesn’t scare any of us…she is so stupid…she’s irrelevant.
Posted by: mikmak | October 11, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Obama has the racist backround, and is running the racist campaign, with his 96% black vote.
OBAMA: I ceased to advertise my mother’s race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.
From Dreams of My Father: I found a solace in nursing a pervasive
sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.
From Dreams of My Father: There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.
From Dreams of My Father: It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.
From Dreams of My Father: I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.
From Audacity of Hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
If you need anymore proof, Just ask Obamas “typical white grandmother”
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
I am follwoing this election from the Philippines. This is truly a sad and disturbing time in American history. This election and the tone of the campaigns is making the Philippines look like an advanced democracy.
When the history is written, I am sure What stared in the 1980′s as ‘trickle down” and the ‘laffer curve’ (yes that is right Laffer, named after Art Laffer, the USC business professor
The system is coming unglued — and one side is whipping up hatred and animosity among people who will already vote for them making it nearly impossible to bring the country together after the election, and the other provides no real specifics about how to move ahead.
The American peoople are going to get exactly what they desrve by not demaning more from candidates about what they will do as president and how they will do it, not dredging up innuendos about what they have or have not done in the past.
this current process is what producced George Bush — need I say more.
Sign me out as a disgusted American.
Posted by: Luke | October 11, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Since when is wanting a half deranged trooper who has a licence to carry a gun, and a tazer fired a bad thing, when he admittedly tazered a 10 year old kid, shot moose illegaly, and alledgedly threatening to kill her family members.
Posted by: Badger | Oct 11, 2008 10:03:24 PM
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We live in a society that was founded on the rule of law. The premise is rather simple, if you break the law the state has the responsibility to investigate, present charges, prosecute and if convicted incarcerate. The authorities in Alaska investigated trooper Wooten and punished him to the extent of their power.
The Palin’s were unhappy with those findings and decided to use her office to put undue pressure on commissioner Monegan thus violating the ethics law.
We may not always like the results but without following the rule of law we would swiftly fail into a staote of anarchy. As a govenor she should have been able to seperate her personal issues from her office. This is a fatal flaw for someone seeking high office.
Posted by: Lou-NH | October 11, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Wow, just wow! Three more weeks of this garbage and Palin can go back to the middle of nowhere, McCain can hide back in the Senate and Obama and the rest of the adults can get busy trying to fix this mess.
Posted by: Peter Jackson | October 11, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Badger: “Obama had no choice but to denounce Farrakhan,,,,,,,and Wright, and Pfleger, and Rezko, and Ayers,and Acorn, etc. The Pattern is obvious and troubling. You people are out of your minds.”
It’s easier to disassociate than to tell all the dimwits the truth that they can’t handle: Folks like Ayers and Rev. Wright are decent people who stand on the side of righteousness, have done much more good in this world than bad, and have good hearts. Obama can’t say that, but that is probably what he actually believes, and what is probably true. You’re looking for a door to nail your crosses on, so of course now you will act outraged that I could possibly say a man who said “God damn America” could be good, but if you look at the context of that statement, it was– just as I said, a sense of righteous indignation over the wrongs our society has propogated, but you ignore those wrongs, whether it were a wrongful war in Viet nam or Iraq, wrongful racism where women and children are TERRORIZED, etc. Our nation has allowed some bad things to happen, but some of you prefer no reconciliation, you prefer to turn your back on anything unpleasant and demand we worship your hypocritical false flag. There is no peace for the willfully ignorant, long live ACORN, Ayers, and Wright– but I’ll tell you something, they don’t matter one whit in Obama’s presidency, they were just the little media distractions he was forced to dissassociate himself from, he couldn’t say what I am saying, but I bet he agrees with me, and I don’t think that makes him a bad man, “unpatriotic”, or unworthy of our highest office. That lying criminal Bush, Cheney, Rove et al, now those guys ought to do time, and anyone who has associated with them should be seriously questioned on their judgment.
Posted by: Bob | October 11, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Sarah Palin trumps Obama and Biden all day long. She has run a city, and a state. She has balanced a budget, and cut spending. What has Barack done again? lined his pockets with money from Tony Rezko, Acorn, and Fannie Mae. Left his district in Chicago as bad as it ever was.
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Pastor Arnold Conrad needs to read the Word of God again. Something has led him astray. Unfortunately many radical conservative Christians have become idol worshippers—their idols are themselves claiming to be defenders of God—God needs no defense—God can take care of himself—I was taught to stand aside and let God be God—we are all God’s children and pray that God will give us wisdom and understanding the same gift we pray God grant to the President of the United State whoever he or she might be. God bless us all.
Posted by: George | October 11, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Bob
You say Farrakhan has done good things.
Give me a break brother, are you kidding me? Yea he has done some good things, but so have many others. The difference is others have done good things without spewing racially polarizing hate, and rhetoric. Call whites “almost human” “blue eyed devils” Save your BS for some liberal caucasion.
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Words to remember at this time. Are you listening John McCain?
“Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness”…you’ve done enough… Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”.
-attorney Joseph Welch, defending the U.S. Army against Sen. Joe McCarthy
Posted by: JT | October 11, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
McCain has always been about pure ambition and not about country. His first ambition was to measure up to his dad in the Navy but that was a failure. His best reputation in the Navy was as a partier and carouser that even puts Bill Clinton to shame. He crashed so many planes as a Navy pilot that even he came to realize he never was going to measure up. His hot-headed temperament was also a big problem in the Navy. He then decided to enter politics and immediately became heavily associated to Keating. After the Keating 5 scandal, he tried to make himself a ‘reformer’ but has always been beholden to lobbyists, many of which are running his campaign now. He formed the corrupt ‘Reform Institute’ in the 90′s which has been a haven for ‘soft-money’ lobbyist contributions. His so-called ‘maverick’ label came after the 2000 election because he was so soundly beat by Bush (using dirty Rove-style politics) that he rebelled against the Republican party in disgust and anger, not because of any principals. John McCain has always been about blind ambition, never about his country. Despite his so-called image as the straight-talk express and a man of honor, John McCain has never been a man of honor and principals. It is not suprising he would stoop to anything to win this election, including his ridiculous pick of Palin with all her baggage, and the use of these reprehensible smear tactics, because McCain has always been about blind ambition.
Posted by: Indycvs | October 11, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Funny, no mention of the antiwar protesters who called John McCain a liar today in Iowa?
The Obama campaign and mainstream media are playing the meme that conservatives are rabid, hate-filled people. I don’t see hatred but I do see and understand the apprehension.
This is what happens when the democrats run a stealth candidate and the media is unwilling to provide answers in exchange for the trust we invest in them.
Posted by: Captain America | October 11, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Lou NH
Of course laws need to be acknowledged. Sarah Palin wasnt convicted of breaking any laws. She did nothing wrong. The commitee headed 2 by Obama surrogates, had to find something on Palin. The ethics finding is nothing but a sham. Here is a link and photo that shows how biased, and partisan the investigation became after she was tapped as veepee.
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?num=1221142758;start=all
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Badger, first of all I did not say anything at all about Farhakan because, quite honestly, I do not know anything about him except the name. You know a little more, which are the three programmed lines you have picked off of some wingnut websites to spread what are probably smears. I’ll give you an example of this. Have you ever read Malcolm X’s autobiography? It’s a beautiful book about a man being born into poverty and a tough society where if you’re black you’re ****** and are assured of no future, about a guy who does prison time and learns Islamic teachings, about a guy who grows all his life until, at the end, he has achieved peace and enlightenment with his entire life. BUT, you could pick out a hundred passages from that book to smear Malcolm as a radical, as a hater of the “white devil”, but to do so you would **** on the grave of a great man. I do not know anything about Farhakan, but because I have read your programmed trash on this site, your constant narrow-visioned attacks that are imbalanced and quite often flat out erroneous, I am not willing to take your word for it that Farhakan is a bad guy. Not only that, once again he has nothing to do with Obama’s presidency, and you’re an a$$ to pile up charges that are, EVERY one of them, laid out as guilty until proven innocent, which is not how a just man’s mind ever works. However, I have no doubt I will not change the limited way in which your mind operates, which is to stick with simple labels and generally not analyze or think for yourself. You are legion, as I can see on this site, and at these McCain rallies, normal folk except they have some hatred and anger over one thing or another that helps them deal with their fear of things in their lives. I am not like you, and you are not like me, I’ll let it go at that– except to say I thank God every day that I am me. Do you also do that?
Posted by: Bob | October 11, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Actually I have authored about twenty books and am a professor, and am the eternal student, learning never ends if you really believe in education. It is also obvious you cannot recognize eduction if you cannot read the fluency and speed of these words, the coherence of the arguments and ideas, the natural structuring and accurate choice of words. I teach writing, I would probably give you a C, maybe a B if you came to class and showed some honest effort.
Posted by: Bob | October 11, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
It is Bush who has been making America less safe and more crisis. No one would expect McCain can do any thing better, if not making us worse.
Enough is enough. We need change, we a need big change.
Posted by: Tester | October 11, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Yo, simple4life, Barack is going to be the next president of this great nation. I would hardly call that immersed in Black nationalism and radicalism. He’s completely mainstream. Where does that put you?
Posted by: rightsaid | October 11, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
We (and the entire MSM) are done with that Ayers, Acorn and other BS nonsense now…
Now and until election day we are talking about the McCain/Palin ANGRY MOB SCENES, and how Palin is a LIAR and criminal in the Troopergate report.
Palin is a criminal and should be in Jail!!
SO GET WITH IT!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 11, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Bob
Take your attitude, and stick it where only Barack and Larry Sinclair would find it.
I will always choose an American Hero (Sarah Palin) over an unAmerican zero (barack obama)
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
I guess that was badger, not simple. Very insulting. But unintended. Sorry simple.
Posted by: rightsaid | October 11, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
The only way obama becomes president is with the massive help of liberal media and spewing 24/7 anti-Palin/ Mccain propaganda. Obama, Acorn and the liberal media are literally trying to steal this election, and they are succeeding, but havent suceeded yet. The American people are beginning to see through the media, and really question Obama past, and what his policy would be.
Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
In 911, 2000 Americans are killed by someone outside of Iraq.
Later, 4000 American men and women have died in Iraq for Bush’s lies. We are not safer, we are not secured. America has been getting worse every day. McCain’s forever war plan and happy with current economics would make US even worse. If you can not vote a black, could you pick a smart white? Come on.
Posted by: Tester | October 11, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
rightsaid…an American citizen, praying that I am doing the right thing.
Posted by: Simple4life | October 11, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
it just sadden me that some of the people here are really stupid
Posted by: kristk68 | October 11, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
no problem :)
Posted by: Simple4life | October 11, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
It would be nice if all Christians would admit that they have no idea what God’s will actually is, and start tending to their own relationship with God instead of worrying about everyone else’s.
I’ve read through the comments here and I’m disgusted by the majority of them. I’ve never seen so many hateful, frightened people. If the United States could survive a George W. Bush presidency, it will MORE than survive (and possibly thrive on) an Obama presidency.
The Republicans have had their heads up their arses for the last eight years at least. Admit it. Let the other side have a shot at it.
I find it interesting that the GOP ticket is the first in history to have both the presidential and vice presidential candidate be charged with unethical behavior. I wonder what the REAL Republicans think about this mess. The nazi-cons…I mean neo-cons…have royally screwed the party. It’s time for someone with some sense to take the reins.
Barack Obama is about as American as apple pie. Remember, America is the place where you can be interested in things like social justice and racial equality without being burned at the stake. Right? It’s a place where you can be bi-racial and from Hawaii (an American state, by the way, since the 50s…Pearl Harbor, remember?), and still, with the right education and hard work, run for the presidency. Right?
How dare you back-water bigots try to turn this great nation into a small-minded, frightened, culturally segregated cesspool. You call yourself patriots?
Posted by: Megan | October 11, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Badger. I think you mean
Sarah Palin — American Idiots’ Hero
Barack Obama — Percent UnAmerican: Zero
Posted by: rightsaid | October 11, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Badger,
If your purpose is to have a serious debate on the troopergate issue then let us begin with the facts.
Troopergate existed prior to Barack Obama winning the Democratic Nomination.
Troopergate existed prior to Sarah Palin’s nomination for the Republican Vice Presidency.
The legislative council is a 14 member body which is comprised of 10 Republicans and 4 Democrats.
The investigator was selected by this 14 member council because of his high ethical standards as a prosecutor.
The 14 member body could have decided to bury the report but recognized that a wrong was done and brought it forward for the people of Alaska to disposition.
Please do not try to convince me with sound bites and snippets as I am not a low information voter.
Posted by: Lou-NH | October 11, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Many of you are only saying the things you say because you are racist. You think having a Black as president will cause trouble. But, I beg to differ. This country is in such a mess that If I were you; I’d be glad to have anyone other than yourselves to try and make a difference. Oh and I’m not racist I am a victim of my ancestry being mixed with white blood I’m neutral. I just can’t believe what come out of your pea brain sometimes. It’s hard to believe you are Adults. What your children must think of you. And those of you who hold God in one hand and hate in the other. Lord help you; and I pray for this continent.
Posted by: Brenda Harris | October 11, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Going into politics doesn’t qualify you to be president, anymore than going into a garage qualifies you to be a car!
Posted by: No Way No How NOBAMA! | October 11, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
I think that all of McCain’s supporters here “Rest the case” made by representative Lewis. IWallace did, after all, repent. SARAH IS A SORRY EXCUSE.
Posted by: saffy | October 11, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
When the hate is growing, while our country is going down, it is time for him to quit if he really wants to help his country.
Posted by: Tester | October 11, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
NO MORE EXTREAM RADICAL EVIL, OBAMA
HUSSEIN.
Posted by: Janet | October 11, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Bob,
Please don’t give up. We have to keep communicating the truth to the best of our ability. America needs us all to stand up and get involved again.
Megan,
AMEN
Posted by: Lou-NH | October 11, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Wow, it’s really telling that I was talking about the Malcom X biography, and how you could take passages from it in a hundred places to make him out to be an Islamic radical and hater of the “white devil” and then I looked further down the comments and what do I find? You, Badger, doing exactly what I said could be done with a book (or a person’s statements or speeches). You took some passages from Barak’s book, pasted them together to create a collage of your choosing. But here is the question: 1) Have you ever read that entire book? I don’t believe you have, and 2) If you read that book, or any other book, are you seeking the truth or are you cherry picking to feed your pre-existing biases? You cannot grow intellectually if you only keep your same opinions and cannot try to see other perspectives to learn. Just some helpful advice because in a way I honestly feel sorry for you, Badger. The hard part is that I suspect you’d cut my throat if you had the opportunity, because you hold hatred, for whatever reasons, ones you might examine as you lie in bed tonight troubled by this message.
Posted by: Bob | October 11, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
SD….what are you talking about? I am not a McCain supporter. What did I right to deserve your statement?
Posted by: Simple4life | October 11, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
I just don’t know what to say about Mccain but Obama is right he is eractic. Mccain isn’t a real conservative and definately not a right winger, thats sean Hannity’s crowd. I think Mccain has bit off more than he can chew and it is a shame that he has to end his career this way. What a waste of time.
Posted by: madkeyra | October 11, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
SD….what are you talking about? I am not a McCain supporter. What did I write to deserve your statement? correction: write
Posted by: Simple4life | October 11, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Megan, I won’t give up, especially when I realized, by reading more comments, that there are some reeeeally wise and wonderful Americans out there. Americans who understand what God is and should be, or that state their thoughts so intelligently, ones that SEE very clearly because they have their minds open to seek truth. I see many of them on this site, and then there are those attackers. You know what, I think I see a real division this time around in the elections, a real polarization that has in the past few days gotten even stronger, that anger. It’s like this one writer here who doesn’t waste his time with long messages, and hits the heart of things. He wrote something like:
McCain Campaign = anger and fear
Obama Campaign = hope
There are more Americans with hope than anger and fear, hurray Obama wins in 2008!
However, I am not an idealist, I say put the change in and character will out, we’ll know whether Obama is a great man or a snake by what he does. I am thoroughly convinced at this point that he has heart, intelligence, soul, strength to lead, wisdom and experience with building coalitions of empowerment. I hope I am right, but we’ll see in time. But I seem to be ok on judging character, I felt like crying when I saw Bush take office, I knew the wars and the bad economy was inevitable, I knew he’d hurt our great nation, and after time his character outed. Obama’s I predict will out that he is indeed a great leader whom we needed at this time in our nation’s history. If he’s a little proud, he deserves to be. Ben Franklin once said that he never could get rid of that, he tried to be humble, but he ended up being proud of his humility.
Posted by: Bob | October 11, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
One word NOBAMA.
Posted by: drwfll | October 11, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
that message from me for Megan was for Lou-NH, mistake in reading :-)
Posted by: Bob | October 11, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
One word NOBAMA.
Posted by: drwfll | October 11, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Ok, what would be worst than a BUSH, NOBAMA. FACT !
Posted by: drwfll | October 11, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
McCain is running exactly the kind of dirty campaign he previously decried and surrounding himself with the kind of bigots and racists that he had once condemned as deserving a “special place in hell”.
How will the Lord judge such a man who would go back on his word and defame a fellow Christian? Shame for those of us who thought we knew him!
Posted by: FLRepublican | October 11, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Americans was dumb enought to ??? elect BUSH TWICE. Crooked election ! Elect NOBAMA you deserive what you you get. BUSH gave you change, NOBAMA will give you disaster!
Posted by: drwfll | October 11, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
poor debby
calling Palin /Mccain racist with no proof, yet it was obama who chose a racist black church to attend for 20 years. Wow girl, youre a genius.
Posted by: Badger | October 12, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Badger, be careful, if you keep attacking good people who mean you no harm, you’ll end up in a bad place. You will get what you pay for, so make sure and work hard to make a lot so you can pay a bunch and get a bunch. He who has much, more will be given.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
LagunaTriMom…you are correct about these boards. Best way to make your voting decision is do to some research on the candidates. They both have websites explaining their positions and proposed policies. Plus there are good sound websites that are reliable. I have found that some of the news networks are in the tank for either one or the other, but you will have to be the judge of that. Good luck with your decision. God Bless!
Posted by: Simple4life | October 12, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Badger, I’m curious (honestly), do you consider yourself a racist? The reason I am asking is because I do consider you very racist, you have belied that in a hundred ways, but then I wondered if a racist is aware of his racism and chooses to be this, or does a racist think himself not racist and is completely unaware of it. Do you consider yourself a racist?
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
astounding.
i assure you that there are many christians who are voting for obama…they are christian, they are american, they have american values and simply want the best for their country.
may i also impress upon you that god’s “reputation” has nothing to do with this election, nor is god’s “reputation” diminished by obama’s potential victory…giving him ultimatums is not praying.
as a christian, i would think you would be better served to pray for god’s guidance, understanding and will…i will certainly pray for you.
Posted by: jazzgrrrl25 | October 12, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Bob
I got the impression that though you support obama, you were actually above the obama camp, and surrogates when it came to playing the race card. Boy, was I wrong
:(
Posted by: Badger | October 12, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
I finally understand what they mean about “who plays the race card first”, interesting. But you didn’t answer my question: Do you consider yourself a racist?
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
I just wonder how in the heck our country and our people have become so petty. The most important question for all of us should be “Who will try the hardest to fix this mess we’re in, and who has the best plans?” We all have “pasts,” and if you say you don’t you’re lying. Please please please, can we just get back to the REAL issues?
Posted by: Taryl | October 12, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
You know whats sickening to me??? Half the name calling, cussing, race baiting, self righteous people here commenting will be in church tomorrow singing praises to God.. Instead of praying for an Obama defeat, you need to be praying that God will lead whoever the next president of this country is.. Republicans need to stop being so self righteous and thinking that they have a corner on God. As it was said earlier, God would not be at a rally yelling “kill him”.
Posted by: Maurice Cheatem | October 12, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Why is it that so many of the people who profess to believe most fervently in God think that God needs them to explains things to Him? I can only conclude that their so-called faith is a fraud. If they really believed in the wisdom and benevolence of God, they would be asking God for guidance, not that they need to instruct God on how to act and what will happen, if He fails to do as they demand. People like Arnold Conrad are tiny little people who misappropriate religion to try to make themselves feel bigger. They know that no one would actually listen to them, so they claim to be speaking in the name of God. They are an outrageous insult to our intellence to to people of real faith.
Posted by: S Mc | October 12, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
About that pastors invocation… It shows us all how warped, hypocritical, hate-ridden and sad the entire McCain/Palin campaign has gotten. This is not the same man that served this country with honor. This has gone so wrong and sickening that McCain possibly deserves our pity and compassion but definitely NOT our vote and Palin needs to crawl quietly away and await her fate in the backwoods of Alaska as I doubt she’s endeared anyone up there with her behavior these past weeks.
Posted by: Rick_VT | October 12, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Simple4life, I agree. We all need to do our own research and the “news” media isn’t the place to do it. I’ve visited both candidates’ websites several times and am still debating. I’m under whelmed with both candidates. I have little respect for people who simply vote along party lines like sheep, rather than doing their own research and evaluating the candidate—not just looking at the D or R behind the name.
Posted by: LagunaTriMom | October 12, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
John Mccain reminds me of Pontius Pilate and Sarah Palin the High Priest when Jesus was being interrogated and tried, he tried to wash his hands of the situation after hearing the High Priest induce the crowd to shout crucify him, crucify him, and Pontius Pilate was the one who sentenced Jesus to die! I am not saying Mccain and Palin is perpetuating a death plan for Barack Obama. But, what I am saying is John Mccain and Sarah Palin is responsible for the civility of the crowd, and the ratcheting up of racist fervor! John Mccain and Sarah Palin and their followers are closet racist!The SPIRIT OF GEORGE WALLACE AND LESTER MADDOX IS ALIVE AND WELL IN JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN! I hope America is not fooled by this sudden epiphany AND RESPECTFUL REMARKS HE MADE RECENTLY TOWARD BARACK OBAMA of John Mccain! THIS IS THE SAME PERSON FOR OVER A WEEK SANCTIONED HIS CANDIDATE FOR VICE PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN’S EXTREME VIOLATILE, DANGEROUS AND MISLEADING RHETORIC AGAINST BARACK OBAMA WHICH IS REFLECTIVE OF JIM CROW AND KLU KLUX KLAN POLITICS! NOW, HE COMES TO HIS SENSES AGAIN AFTER HE SAW THE LATEST POLLS! THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN BY SARAH PALIN AGAINST BARACK OBAMA TO DISTRACT VOTERS FROM HER TROOPERGATE TROUBLE AND JOHN MCCAIN FROM THE ECONOMY, SHOWS THE TYPE OF INDIVIDUALS THEY ARE, AND WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO GET INTO THE OVAL OFFICE! THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO TOUT COUNTRY FIRST, TRUST, INTEGRITY AND JUDGMENT, BUT WHO USED KARL ROVE’S PLAY BOOK, GEORGE BUSH’S JUDGMENT AND FOX NEWS FOR CAMPAIGN STRATEGIES
Posted by: anna | October 12, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
the word “Allah” is an arabic word for God used not only by muslims but also by arab catholics, othothox, protestants and other christians
Posted by: correction | October 12, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
I say let McCain/Palin and their supporters show their true colors.
It was getting mob-ish and soon would have turned on McCain.
Hate always loses in the end, i.e. Bush.
Posted by: Bush Elite | October 12, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
If the religion is doing its job right as Jesus intended to, people like pastor Arnold Conrad does not have come out and say such a stupid statement. Imagine how desperate he is to say that when Obama, a fellow christian, becomes a president the god has lost. Pastor Arnold Conrad is one of those religious leaders Jesus would condemn. Shame on you pastor Arnold Conrad, Do your job as the right religious leader instead of trying to meddle with politics. That only lowers fellow christians. Shame, shame, shame!!!
Posted by: DoTheJobRight | October 12, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
The Rove tacticians decided to go with impugning character, but I don’t know what they were thinking. Wait, yes I do, it worked in the past, but that’s because things weren’t as bad as they are now. Too many Americans know that mutual swiftboating this time around will sink the nation, and the Rove tacticians know politics but failed to understand a change in society and circumstance. It’s kind of like wearing snowshoes on the beach, at this point.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
DoTheJobRight, I agree, but this has roots going back a few decades at least, that I can see. Fallwell gathered that right wing fundamentalist Christian group, and that was the root of the mistake. A religious group became a political group, all voting Republican, which is how Reagan won. Once that was formed, it seemed that this political group representing “God” could then legislate a more moral majority. So he is praying with his religiopolitical group for their Candidate, who of course God supports because they represent God. It’s a little bit of moonwalking with logic, but it makes sense to them. And they are RIGHT, you know.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
A church pays no taxes right? And one of the stipulations for not having to pay taxes is that you adhere to the separation of church and state amendment right? So shouldn’t this church have to pay taxes now that they are trying to persuade people to vote for McCain ? Please let me know if I am wrong here. It would be of great relief if I am wrong. Someone reach out and make me believe the same lies please!!!!!!
Posted by: C-Phlat | October 12, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
After that, came legislation… prayer in schools, controlling sex education policy (abstinence being the education), forcing equal time for creation “theory”, banning abortion, pretty soon it’s more and more until what we could have is some radical right Christian society that is, in essence, the same as a radical Muslim society. Bombing an abortion clinic is like Islamics blowing up some establishment that sells alcohol, like whatever they decide God wants is what they force the nation to become.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
Jennifer, Buddha is also a monotheistic concept of this same God, this creator of the universe and us. But the Koran seems to me that it is dogmatic, like set rules and so demands sacrifice more than mercy, it seems it didn’t have someone to come and fulfill the law, which is Christ. By that I do not say a Christian and an Islam could not be in the same heaven, though I know fundamental Christianity insists this is the case (no one can come unto the father except by me), but I shall not judge that to mean some Samarian (Islam) who helps me out of a ditch is not my neighbor while some fellow Christian who beats me for believing what I wish is not my neighbor.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
Wild, I think Jesus Christ and John McCain for you, both of whom you picture white. The ones who claim “white guilt” will cause people to vote do not understand the reasons that a man, regardless of his color, will vote for a candidate, regardless of his color. I an many others really really honestly forget about that, it doesn’t even enter our minds, and then suddenly “color” comes up, but it always seems to be from the side supporting McCain. Do I talk about McCain’s “whiteness”, of course not because that is the hegemonious structure, the “status quo”, the white man’s world that I forgot some of you still live in. I swear to you as God is my witness when I just read you wriitng about Obama being Black I suddenly realized he was “black”, that’s not how I think of him. I’m going for the best candidate for America and have my reasons (no more neocon warmongering).
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Bob, I agree with everything you said. I wanted to simplify my comment and by doing so, I left out Buddah… and I didn’t even delve into how our fellow brothers and sisters who may be pagan, atheist, or agnostic even fit into this.
Bottom line is, what this man is doing is shameful and should be condemned. I work in the medical field and I treat patients of all backgrounds, and no matter what their religion, they are still human, and must be treated with the same dignity, compassion, and respect that I expect to be treated with. What this man is doing is a fueling the fires for religious war.
Posted by: Jennifer | October 12, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Former Christian,
You failed God if you gave up on Christianity just because so many of them are hypocritical and narrow-minded. Ok, I haven’t been to church in 20 years, but you’d be surprised how much i have grown as a Christian during that time. I understand many things in the bible that I did not, I keep reading and seeking God, remember, “I have called you friend”. If you quit on Christ then you lost the greatest friend you could have for your entire life.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Jennifer, yep, that’s what he be doing in the name of the lord, creating a divisive God who says, “Our members only”. They got their members, but they may have shut the doors and left God peeking in the windows wondering why they shut him out.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
WOW….. as a Christian I am very dissappointed. The bible says that during the last days many false prophets will emerge… this pastor is clearly a false prophet. How shameful. Thank God my faith taught me to beware of them. Too bad those “self rightous” far right people are showing nothing but hatred. My vote will go to Obama/Biden.
Posted by: Bebocampbell | October 12, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Last days, first days, middle days, there’s always been these false prophets.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
I believe there is a God. I’ve just come to realize that God is something that humans cannot possibly grasp therefore it is really pointless to try. It’s okay to pray and ask for foregiveness in your own way but the idea that some how God came down as man called Jesus Christ is completely absurd. Once I figured that out I have been able to live a life free from fear and narrow mindedness. I still pray but God to me is something I don’t understand and that no human being understands.
Posted by: Former Christian | October 12, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
correction..right on…why would GOD care? this is not his kingdom. However, we are all his people and we will be judged…this pastor will do well to go back to his scriptures and relearn the lessons there…fire and brimstone ring bells?
Posted by: worldview47 | October 12, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
Former Christian, pray and read The Book of Job, you’ll get a slight vision of what God is there, which at the end of that book is what floored Job, he saw it for a moment, realized what it was and then said he’d never seek out the root of his being justified for anything ever again. People don’t understand the book of Job, they think it is only about being loyal regardless of infliction in life, but it runs much much deeper than that. Read it, let the arguments and thoughts come alive, and by the time to hit the end, you’ll see the sublime, a hint of the multitude of the magnitude. We can know God, we just can’t understand it the way it understands itself. It’s like this, my dog knows me and loves me, but he can’t know me more than what he can understand as a dog. That’s the funny part of God endearingly calling his favorite human a “worm”, like we are worms compared to his consciousness, but as worms, we can know God.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
It’s amusing to see the media talking heads trapped by they own inability over the decades to provide objective coverage on any black issues. We all know how bias any story concerning blacks is covered and presented; usually to show the worst even when its a stretch for reasonable people to believe. Comes now Mr. Obama on the scene, and like a deer in fog lights, they freeze over how should he be covered objectively. Can we say this or that without sounding racist. The results are that Obama has benefited from this, he virtually has had a free ride and has not been fully cover or asked serious questions by the media, or debate moderators for fear of being seen racially bias. It was not until SNL did a spoof on Obama and the media soft handling of his campaign that some of them gradually began to speak out questioning his knowledge of Ayers and other dubious friends. One glaring lie by the Obama camp is saying that he never in 20 years heard his ‘spiritual adviser’ Rev. Wright say any of those hate America statements. Obama is on safe ground with this denial, because he knows that as his spiritual adviser, Rev. wright can never reveal the conversations he had with Obama. He is sworn by his Holy Orders pledge. That’s the irony; neither Obama or Wright is talking.
Posted by: Kenwin | October 12, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
For a preacher to ask his god for a win to prove he is a bigger god than the other gods just goes to show why there is religious hatred in this world. For a so-called man of god to preach such venom is not being of god. Listen morons god created everyone. Why should he/she/it differentiate between races, nationalitie, sexes, etc. I thing you evangelicals are afraid Obama won’t cater to your every demand as the current administration does. Watch your rhetoric or you may lose your tax-exempt status.
Posted by: dan kolich | October 12, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Obama is getting so much money, he will be indebted to so many, for so long, you can believe McCain when he says he’ll be another special interest hoor (misspelt intentionally)
I believe Obama is a sheep in wolfs cloathing. We know of his shady relations with Wright, Rezco, and ACORN. What we don’t know about is his formative years. His community activision was a one way street; for one voting block of society. Will he change when president??
We need a president for all. We need McCain – Palin
Posted by: Planewizard | October 12, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
This sort of hatred is exactly why I changed my party affiliation from Republican to Independent in 2004. The very first president I voted for was Ronald Reagan. How things have changed! Or maybe it’s just me who has changed.
Posted by: Susan | October 12, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
This sort of hatred is exactly why I changed my party affiliation from Republican to Independent in 2004. The very first president I voted for was Ronald Reagan. How things have changed! Or maybe it’s just me who has changed.
Posted by: Susan | October 12, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
There’s an obvious reason why this clown Arnold Conrad is a former pastor, he’s not following or practicing the doctrine of Christianity which is outlined in the Bible or being Christ like towards others and their religious beliefs. At least the McCain camp had the decency to distance itself from such ridiculous assertions.
Posted by: FYI | October 12, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
it”s a setup, they want Obama’s supporters to complain, so they can say Obama as a Crazy Pastor 2. the crazy Mcsame camp want to reopen Rev Wright story again, don’t you see!
Posted by: Lola | October 12, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am
Badger,
The answer to all your questions can be found on factcheck.org. But something tells me you’re not really looking for answers. Who needs facts, when you’ve got rhetoric?
Posted by: randy | October 12, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am
Check out the article entitled:
“The Terrorist Barack Hussein Obama”
by Frank Rich in today’s New York Times.
Posted by: Eve | October 12, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
McSame campaign is discusting….especially Pastor Arnold Conrad
Posted by: Realist | October 12, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am
I can’t believe what I am reading here. People wake up. Obama is not a good person. He talks excellet and knows just what to say, just what you want to hear. But, that is not the way things will be once he is elected. You must look at his past and his freinds. I beg you take the time to honestly know who you are really voting for. This person will destroy this Country. This is not a race election this is a for our children and thee future. If Obama is elected the people lose. Obama is for higher taxes and more social programs. Yes he says he will take from the rich and give to the poor. If he does this there will be no jobs. I have never known a poor person that owned a company or had employees. There is a lot a stake here please, stop and think about who you are voting for and what will happen.
Posted by: Barbara | October 12, 2008, 4:38 am 4:38 am
“Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad,” according to an ancient Greek proverb. The Republican Party is doomed if it continues on a path driven by fear, anger, and spite. It may also destroy our country in the process.
Posted by: Seeker | October 12, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am
All the angry right needed from the McCain campaign was corroboration for all their hate filled e-mails and slanderous but hushed conversations with only white cohorts that Obama was a terrorist or not a “real” American. Once Palin and subsequently McCain unleashed their overt approval of these once codified dog whistle type political messages to their minions on the right, they felt emboldened like the mad terrorists McCain decries in his speeches. Because of McCain’s and Palin’s explicit approval of such horrible tactics their supporters became infected like rabid dogs where his crowds were not satisfied with anything less than Obama’s head. This is beyond a despicable campaign tactic but it may in an ironic way be the final exclamation point on the Lee Atwater of divide and conquer politics if Obama wins. Hopefully if Obama is elected we can bury forever this dreadful era in our political history.
Posted by: KQuark | October 12, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am
This election is getting REALLY UGLY! I am ashamed of being American. I AM STAYING HOME ON NOVEMBER 04. Neither party deserves my vote.
Posted by: nononsense08 | October 12, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am
Do Palin Represent Christian Values. Because She Is a sheep in Wolf Clothing
If Christian people think she a good christian, That explain why young and old people are leaving churches in droves.
Posted by: bob | October 12, 2008, 5:43 am 5:43 am
mcain is so out of touch with the average american… how many houses and how many cars? look at the people who show up at his rallies!!! a bunch of haters and ignorant individuals who probably have a double digit IQ. when i watched these “people” on tv it makes me wonder what planet they are from. they are all living in the 1950s. the era of the GOP in control of everything is over. enjoy the next couple of days because there is no way mccain can win all those battleground states. wake up and smell the change… and i dont just mean the change of mccains diaper.
Posted by: sk8boardgrind | October 12, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
my God, it’s now so clear to me. The christian right put bush in the white house. Look where that got us.
Posted by: clutcher | October 12, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am
Barbara,
Is the current tax system FAIR? Should Fuld not bear his FAIR SHARE of the tax burden?
Does his FAIR SHARE mean that jobs will not be created?
Posted by: Michelle | October 12, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am
This kinda thing is way beyond the simple fear and hate mongering of the GOP this is outright dangerous. Let us not forget that more blood has been spilt in the name of religin than anything in history. The McCain campain is playing into simply minded americans religous fears in telling them that if Obama wins then there somehow eastern religins will take over theres in america. This will result in mast hystaria and violent behavior. They are in my opion trying to incite one or more of there more stupid supporters into…well I will say it straite forward incite them into doing violence againt Obama because they know they will lose this election and the only way they can win is to eliminate there opponent. Why isnt someone stoping them? This is going to be bad for america and is certain to be a threat to our national security. They are trying to incite one of there supporters to do violence againt Obama. Isnt that against the law?
Posted by: getsmart | October 12, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am
This is balooney! Barack Obama is a spirit filled born again christian so why does this pastor say such things. I belief Obama will win and it will be the will of God but if it doesn’t it will still be the will of the father. God is great and OBAMA will triumph. This man tries to twist the will of God he may get burned
Posted by: I love Jesus | October 12, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am
These Republicans haven’t learned their lessons. They keep praying for things. Last time they prayed for RAIN. Now they are praying for Obama to lose. This will be a landslide for Obama..Republicans. Whatever you might pay for.
Posted by: 2008shar | October 12, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am
As of today i’m not voting dem or repub.
I’ve always been a dem but I’m very disappointed in the democratic party choosing Obama as it’s nominee. Clearly he has little experience and a dubious past. I’m starting to think the democrats did this on purpose and news such as this is what they wanted all along.
Posted by: James | October 12, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
Vote4Peace: Lol, i didn’t say i wasn’t voting at all.
Peace out.
Posted by: James | October 12, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
So the “man of God” John MC CAIN and
Sarah PAIN chose to bless their little fear party thinks that God, I assume he means Jesus, is up there in the skies watching over America (gosh, I sure do hope JC is paying attention up there in the sky to all the people suffering thanks to 8 years of Bush & Company’s utter mismanagement at best but more likely contemptible and punishable criminal behavior) even though Jesus was born in the middle east. And that must mean that Buddha, Allah, and Hindu (he meant Krishna, the Hindu name for the creator of all and everything- America doesn’t own Jesus) have control over the other, and of course lesser nations of this world. And the very learned pastor thinks this is like a football game where one “god” wins- Jesus the god of America (oh wait is Alaska looked after by Jesus? apparently the Palin family doesn’t think so judging from big dude’s memebership in the secessionist party and little miss aw shucks’ audio message of congratulations to them last year). I guess the very spiritual pastor thinks war is kinda like a big football game too, even though millions of innocent lives be lost in war’s futility, even lives of innocent little children who I’m goshdarn sure Ms hockey mom would agree have the “sacred” right to life. Wow, pastor Conrad, you sound like such a loser, maybe Jesus loves you but I’ll bet he’d like to teach you a thing or two about his real meaning, you idiot! and by the way, God bless everyone, everywhere, no exceptions!
Posted by: Jerry Forman | October 12, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
God does not take lightly to people using His name to further their own greed and deceit. If I were John McCain or Sarah Palin I would be watching my step because God may not let their behavior continue. I’m beginning to think that McCain is either the personification of evil or Bi-polar.
Posted by: Julie | October 12, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am
Hey Barbara…..U.S. Senator Obama Is a good person. How good of a person are you, when you don’t read, get the facts and make human intelligent choice for yourself. I question your motives….JUST SAY IT!!!!You people has said it before at the rallies. I am a good people that will never do or say things that are lies. Lying is a sin.
Posted by: sara | October 12, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
This so called preacher is nothing more than a republican, we only have one god and one church. People call their religen by several denfrent names. I’m not worried about eather one. The winner, will be the one who no’s the denfrence.
McCain says the American people cant see his medical records because they are not his doctors.
His state of AZ let AIG hire a phd to say nothing was rong with me and that
the judge listened to them instead of the 10 or 12 doctors I already had, whats the denfrence is, McCain is obove the people. he must not have to follow the same rules. Good job Republican. Show hate preacher, dont think it will help you this time, winner is Obama.
Posted by: Thomas Schuette | October 12, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Lawrence, what on earth are you talking about when you rant that McCain and Palin need to ‘prove’ their accusations about Obama. The things they are saying are not in dispute. Obama at some point learned William Ayers was an unrepentant founder of the Weather Underground, who as Obama himself says, did reprehensible things in the sixties and was proud of them in this century, after he had moved on to become a left-wing education “reformer” who held up Chavez’s Venezuela as an example of a model for education. Obama originally said he barely knew the man, “a professor who lives in my neighborhood” and he and his campaign have been tweaking that characterization ever since, slowly admitting more and more about the contacts between Obama and Ayers. That is what McCain and Palin are pointing out– this is a bad person for Obama to associate with and Obama seems to have tried to cover up that association when it was no longer useful. (In Chicago circles, a connection to Ayers was a plus for a Democratic politician running on the local or state level. In national circles, that same connection is a negative, hence the desire to make it disappear from the record.) What do you think they are saying, Lawrence, that needs to be “proven”? Neither is claiming that Obama is a terrorist or supports terrorism. Neither is saying Obama is in way culpable for the actions of Ayers in his Weather Underground days. Both ARE saying that his choice of Ayers as a political ally early on (launching his local political career in the man’s living room, working with him on a board that allowed them to funnel grant money to particular schools and programs, winning friends and influencing people, as the saying goes) and his later efforts to downplay that relationship help reveal Obama’s judgment. What part of that is hard for you to understand?
Posted by: moderate | October 12, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
My opinion is that whenever a priest, pastor, rabbi, etc. starts talking politics in their houses of worship or at any rallies then that religious group should lose their tax exempt status because when they start talking politics they have become a political arm of their chosen party. Your priest, pastor, rabbi etc. is only their for your religious education not to promote their own political views.
Posted by: I've had it | October 12, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Sara I have done alot of checking. I have looked at both McCain & Obama voting records. Their actual records. I have read everything I can on Obama history. Try obama/acorn- obama/ayers just try it you may be suprised. This is not from the Repu. It is the actual reports of what he has done. As far as this problem we are having right . This didn’t start till the last two years when the Dems took control. If you would check the actual Senate and House records you would see who is responsbile. Who try , who had fears as early as 2003. You and others really need to check things for yourself. I mean the actual records not just what someone says. Again, I will repeat this is the most important election of our time. This election will either make us or put us into a depression. If Obama is elected and raise the taxes like he says he will, we will have a depression. Alot of people that are voting don’t understand the want Washington works or the way the finances work. Please be careful.
Posted by: Barbara | October 12, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
I seem to recall a time when Religion and politics were the center of an argument, the victim was nailed to a cross.
Posted by: American Woman | October 12, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
I am saddened to say for the first time in my voting life I am not voting for president in this election. Neither candidate has instilled in me the confidence to vote for them, what a disappointment. I would rather not vote and have the conviction of my principles, than regret my vote for 4 years.
It is not a question of trying to vote for the winner but, who is best qualified. Neither has shown the leadership ability to lead this great country out of the mess it currently finds itself.
The days of voting for the candidate I like the least are over for me, like many others I have talked to.
Where have all the good leaders gone, what a sad day for America.
Posted by: Independent minded | October 12, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
This Pastor Conrad is doing Satans work preaching hate and bigotry and outright lying. Another Bible thumping fruitcake. It seems the majority of McCain supporters are racist nutjobs. So sad.
Posted by: AJ | October 12, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Americans, McCain/Palin is not good for America.McCain cant beat Obama about the Economy, so McCain is trying to come up with lies about Obama’s Character.I hope all you Fellow Americans can see, we dont need any more Republicans in Office!Its Time to Vote all Republicans out of Office.I sure hope the CIA took this Idiots out of McCains rally’s after they made Threats against Obama.
Posted by: Demo Rules | October 12, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Vote For Obama, Vote For A Better America!
Posted by: Demo Rules | October 12, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
If Obama is elected and raise the taxes like he says he will, we will have a depression.
We are in a depression now. It didn’t start with Wall Street’s collapse nor did it start with the housing crisis. It started because the United States has become a country that manufactures practically nothing. That was okay for a while because the housing market fed the economy and we were becoming a country that primarily provided services not goods. Fine. Except companies decided that in order to compete American workers were too expensive and not skilled enough and they began shipping high paying services jobs along with manufacturing jobs overseas. Meanwhile, American workers were left to fend for themselves and work at WalMart, Kmart, etc…and compete with illegal immigrants flooding this country. All of this occurred under either a Republican administration or Republican led congress. I am sure Republicans will argue that Democrats were equally guilty but the simple facts remain that Republicans were in charge of either Congress or the presidency the last 20 years when most of this occurred.
One thing my father told me when I six in the Kennedy\Nixon campaign as to why he was voting for Kennedy. He said Republicans have never done anything for working people in this country. And they haven’t done anything since either.
This to me is the core of the problems wwe find ourselves in today. America must invest in itself. That includes new technology, infrastructure, and supporting companies through tax cuts who keep jobs in this country. Obama\Biden are the only ones in this campaign who would make that a priority.
As for taxes…revenues need to come from somewhere..Taxing everyone at the same rate makes absolutely no sense to me. And having a spending freeze as McCain proposes (I think…hard to tell with him) makes no sense at all either. That will simply lead to stagnation and not move this country forward. And stagnation in this world economy simply means more countries will pass us by.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 12, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
I do believe people are angry and scare and they leash their angry and fear about what will come to Obama.
That is nothing that Mccain/Palin mistake. Palin brought up Obama past and his character because they are a legitimate issues!! You cannot be so ignorant and think everything with democratic candidate can pass any screening! If you wanted to hire an employee in a company don’t we have a background test? Moreover we will hire a president for this country.
Posted by: Lisalynna | October 12, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
McCain/Palin Scares me and should Scare all Democrats.Under the Republicans the past 8 years, we have lost more rights then probrobly any other time in America’s History. The Taser is meant to be used when a Officers life is treatened.And is also a alternative to using a gun.Tasers are being used as a torture devise from what I see.How many Americans have been killed by the Taser? alot!Spying on fellow Americans, we all hear about it on the News.Vote No on the ballot to all Republicans and Vote yes To all Democrats, Keep Are Freedom alive!Vote Obama.
Posted by: Demo Rules | October 12, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
If God loves Republicans so much, then why did he let the market crash? Why did he let the Troopergate report come out slamming Sarah Palin? Why didn’t he make McCain stand still during the debate instead of letting him wander around the podium like some lost kid at the mall? What is God up to?
Posted by: Toby Barlow | October 12, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
I am beyond appalled at the McCain’s camp’s obvious hate rallies — spreading hatred for other religions as well as other races. This country has taken a step back at least 50 years or more! How does this man (as well as this woman) actually look at themselves in the mirror each morning? And they’re supposed to be loving “Christians” too! Would Jesus approve of their words of hatred — WWJD? They make me ashamed to be a U.S. citizen. I had thought that I could not be more disgusted with another human being than I am with W. I was wrong on that count.
Hope, not fear. GObama ’08!
Posted by: L | October 12, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
The dumming down of America contained in the rhetoric of the Republican hate machine is not only pathetic but dangerous for all of America.
Posted by: robert | October 12, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
It is not stirring up the hate by asking questions – the kind of questions that Obama has danced around all his life and gotten away with it. He eliminated his competition in the Illinois State and Senate race by some questionable practices, associate wit hsome despicable characters and now his ACORN group is using those tactics to commit voter fraud. Obama connected with the right people in Chicago and they have paved the way for him ever since. Once the money trail becomes known you media people will look like fools. No-Bama
Posted by: jimbo | October 12, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Those of you who think you must vote for McCain if you are christian, check out the Matthew 25 network and others like that. We are proud to vote for Obama/Biden 2008!
Posted by: Carolina | October 12, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Barbara writes: Alot of people that are voting don’t understand the want Washington works or the way the finances work.
Including you, Barbara. Perhaps it escaped you in your extensive studies that an unregulated capitalism without redistribution of wealth is bad for the middle class and working people. If you don’t redistribute wealth, you end up with one percent of the population living in palaces while the rest live in cardboard shacks. Left to it’s own devices, a capitalism tends to concentrate capital in the hands of those who already have it (i.e. big investors and big corporations). No middle class, just super-rich and dirt poor. Which one will you be?
Obama will restore the proper taxation of the wealthy in order to reverse a disasterous concentration of capital in the hands of the few at the top. Furthermore, the lack of revenue from refusing to tax the very people who control the money has resulted in crumbling infrastructure which hurts the poor and middle class most–Bill Gates doesn’t sit in rush hour traffic every afternoon…but you do.
Don’t read right-wing propaganda about Obama’s character, then claim that you understand capitalism, politics, or economics. I’ll pit my Political Science degree against your amateur fact-finding any day. Bring it on.
Posted by: Heliocracy | October 12, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
God will decide this election and GOD clearly supports McCain – Palin. Palin in particular will bring morals and values back to this country, I wholeheartedly throw my full support behind this lovely woman. This nation will return to the glory it once had in the 50′s, where families were FAMILIES, not mixed races or same sexes. Look out world, God is coming back to the White House.
Posted by: Esther_L | October 12, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
The 9/11 terrorists could have saved themselves the trouble had they known that Bush single-handedly would destroy this country from within by the end of his 2nd term. As for McCain/PALIN ~ they do more damage to Christianity than any terrorists ever could. You can talk the talk Sarah but, you can’t walk the walk. Please do not call yourself a Christian anymore, you offend those of us who really are.
Posted by: Julie | October 12, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
“I am beyond appalled at the McCain’s camp’s obvious hate rallies — spreading hatred for other religions as well as other races.”
Oh please.. you guys are just so two-faced, I can’t imagine what planet youre trying to appeal to.. HELLLOOOO we’re all… we’re some of us AMERICANS here?? you know.. watched the news back before Oblamer took over the networks?? saw the twin towers fall?
Whatever. you don’t speak any truth between the lot of you and you HAVE NO conscience to vote. DO YOUR WORST! America will still be here after the election and this fight against socialism NEVER ENDS.
So don’t think Obamaland is going to be all pleasant little dillusions of rainbows and unicorns.
BTW.. once he’s done with your little votes.. and he’s made NO PREMISE on how to begin taxing am extra trillion a year.. just how much attention do you guys really think mr. cool is going to have left over for your little dreams?
ZIP ZERO ZED ZILCH NADA BEEN-THERE-DONE-THAT.
Posted by: zak | October 12, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Thank GOD republican leadership was in the WhiteHouse the last 8 years, they staved off real disaster, If there were democrats in there this country would be a financial mess, the good Lord has been behind Bush and has avoided a bigger catastrophe by keeping the Republicans in Power.
Posted by: Esther_L | October 12, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Where do these guys come from that pretend to speak for God?
Posted by: JMC | October 12, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Trickle-down economics does not work. Obama’s team has the right approach.
You unleash more economic growth when you cut taxes to the middle or lower income people than the rich.
The core fallacy of trickle-down is that the rich will use their extra (tax cut) money to create jobs. WRONG! They hoard it, or worse, move it offshore to avoid paying tax on future capital gains.
Look at what Exxon did with a big chunk of their windfall profits – bought back company shares so they could keep more profits in the future.
So statements like “poor people don’t own companies” and therefore, “can’t create jobs”, ignore the fact that if you give a lower income person a tax break, they will go out and SPEND it, which does help create jobs. If you give a rich person a tax break, they might just move their refund to a bank in the Bahamas.
Posted by: Irmanator | October 12, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Obama will destroy America. The Democrats have caused most of the problems around the world and in America, but go ahead drink more Cool Aide and vote for Obama and the democrats and world destruction.
Posted by: pumphouseplus | October 12, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
These type of far right extremists is what has given the GOP a bad rep among moderates and independents.
Until McCain looses and the GOP purges these zealouts out of the party, they will alway try to position the US to have a version of Christian ayatollahs running things.
We are not a theocracy and should not strive to become one.
Posted by: scott jeffries | October 12, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
I mean, it’s like God is up there taking a poll of what he should do, and people are thinking, if I pray I can influence his decison…
Posted by: JMC | October 12, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
pumphouseplus :
No – If Obama is elected it will be because you didn’t pray hard enough and GOD is punishing you.
Posted by: JMC | October 12, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
all this talk about “drinking the kool-aid” has made me thirsty. Thanks!
Obama/Biden 2008!
Posted by: carolina | October 12, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
From the article:
“Last night, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., tried to correct some of his more, er, angry and scared supporters, ones who seem to buy into the ludicrous myth that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is some sort of Manchurian candidate.”
Actually, in The Manchurian Candidate the protagonist is a former POW…
Posted by: JMC | October 12, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
“Two events made Condoleezza Rice switch from being a registered Democrat to a Republican.
The first was when she watched the 1984 Democratic National Convention that nominated Walter Mondale for president. Rice, who grew up during segregation, was turned off by an endless refrain of appeals to “women, minorities, and the poor, which basically means helpless people and the poor,” she has said. Rice decided she would “rather be ignored than patronized.”
The second event was Jimmy Carter’s professed shock at the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, demonstrating naivete and spotlighting his feeble approach to national security. The spectacle sickened her.
Substitute the name Barack Obama for Walter Mondale and Jimmy Carter and you have a good summation of this presidential candidate’s approach.”
Posted by: the end of the end | October 12, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
“Thank GOD republican leadership was in the WhiteHouse the last 8 years, they staved off real disaster, If there were democrats in there this country would be a financial mess, the good Lord has been behind Bush and has avoided a bigger catastrophe by keeping the Republicans in Power. ”
-esther_l
yeah, because, you know, god is there for the republicans. I am sure he really gives a crap about American politics. Give me a break. And the lord being behind bush? No. Using bush and the lord in the same sentence cannot even be a sentence. If anything, god would hate bush, but out of the hundreds of countries out there in the world, why would you honestly think god would be paying attention to OUR political process, if any?
Posted by: SquallBk | October 12, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
I have already voted for McCain/Palin when I received my absentee ballot. I have done all the research I can on both Obama and McCain that I could, and Obama’s connections scare me. I was swinging towards voting for Obama, but that was until I did my research. I do not want this man as Chief Executive of this country. He will destroy it. I am praying everyday that, with 3 weeks left, that this country wakes up from it’s fascination with him. I had a discussion with people who have told me the Democratic party is for the middle class and the poor. I simply asked them, then why do we feel so poor? Dead Silence. Remember… today’s financial debacle started when the Democrats seized control of Congress in 2006.
Posted by: J, FLORIDA | October 12, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
To “the end of the end”:
Remember that the president is captain (if he has the brains to avoid being a puppet of an evil mastermind e.g. Darth Cheney) of a team that governs, he doesn’t perform his duties in isolation. Obama seems to have assembled a pretty good campaign team (out-hustling and out-thinking the Republican campaign team on many fronts) and I am confident he will continue to show his intelligence and good judgement when he picks his governing team.
McCain’s criticisms that Obama displays naivete have all been trumped-up phoney examples in my opinion.
The Pakistan thing – McCain agrees with Barack’s position he is just trying to embarrass Obama for points. You can see how it screws up Palin to try to remember the illogic of McCain’s silly posturing on this topic when she was interviewed by Gibson.
The Iran thing – similarly, McCain has taken a goofy position, keying on the word “pre-condition” as if that meant Obama would just walk into Iran without body guards to talk to their leaders. Kissinger’s comments regarding talks with Iran backed Obama’s approach, until McCain reminded him about his (McCain’s) illogical stance on this point also.
Getting hard to keep all the goofy false-positions straight McCain?
How about just admitting that you were tired and had done too many interviews in one day when you made the gaffe about not inviting the leader of Spain to the white house? Drop the spin-everything attitude for a second and admit you made a mistake – give Tucker the day off for once – I bet you’ll find people will like you better for it.
Posted by: Irmanator | October 12, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Yet another argument for the separation between church and state.
I’ll tell you why I’m voting for Obama, even though I worry about his limited experience. He’s a smart, smart man, mainly, whose intentions are good. McCain is smart, but Obama is smarter and his law school training (where he excelled) means he has been trained to think analytically. Because of this, I think he is wise enough to seek the advice of those who are more experienced and evaluate their opinions accurately. His choice of Biden as his running mate indicates that he is looking for people who will give him their unvarnished opinions, not what he wants to hear.
I also am reassured by the fact that a survey of about 150 economists believe that Obama has the best economic team; he has also been endorsed by Warren Buffett, a man whose judgement I consider to be impeccable (and who saw this economic crisis coming long before it hit). Obama knows the struggles of the poor and middle class, no matter that some have labeled him elitist. He knows poverty and he knows hard work, ’cause Harvard Law doesn’t put slackers at the head of the Harvard Law Review. I can respect that.
Moreover, McCain’s choice of Palin and the way he has run his campaign recently makes me wonder what happened to the integrity of his that I so revered throughout my life. He has betrayed so many of his principals, I am left completely aghast. He was a personal hero of mine, but now I flinch every time he opens his mouth. And I view his choice of Palin to be his running mate and literally our “back-up president” as nothing short of dangerous. There were so many people who were so much more qualified and he went for the “game changer.” Well, McCain, the presidency of the United States is not a game and to treat it as such disrespects and endangers this country’s citizens.
Posted by: JerseyWorld | October 12, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
“We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election,” Ahmed Yousef, senior Hamas leader was quoted by ABC radio as saying.—
Naaah no hate on our dear Mr. Obama’s side of the fence.. Honestly (limp wristed athtoundment) you conservatives are thooooo mean thpirited.
Posted by: zak | October 12, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Hussein Obama, Democrats and liberals should be send to Iran to pray to the Koran.
Hussein Obama is just a liar and a street talker.
MaCain/Palin they are the real winners.
Kept talking about Hussein Obama connection with terrorists,
Posted by: picogg | October 12, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Fear-mongering appears to be all that McCain offers as demonstrated by some of his supporters in this very forum.
Posted by: Carolina | October 12, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
“Obama voted last August to give Osama bin Laden and other terrorists the same rights as Americans when it comes to intercepting their overseas calls in order to pick up clues needed to stop another attack.”
geeee, I can’t IMAGINE why Americans would be sooo upset!
I mean it’s FAIRNESS!
Posted by: zak | October 12, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
An amazing number of distractions.
One of the bloggers above stated she thought that if Democrats had been running the country the last 8 years things would have been WORSE, and “thank God for Bush.” That should be McCain’s platform.
But instead of issues and leadership we get terrorist inferences, our favorite pit bull who has no shame or sense of decent behavior, and preachers who think their candidate is more godly and want to control us by invoking god’s name where they shouldn’t. And lastly a person showing up a rally with a monkey.
Let’s run on the last 8 years.
The past is prolog.
If looking at McCain / Palin rallies is a glimpse at the future, we are heading to a theocratic facist state. McCain’s biggest risk is taking the whole Republican party down with him. Remember when republicans said they want to court latinos and blacks. How’s that coming along the last few months?
Posted by: Carl | October 12, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Why does the christian right insist that anybody who does not share their beliefs is evil, it sounds just like the muslum extreme view. Our country was founded on freedom of religion, you believe in your God and I will believe in mine. It says “one country under God”, not one country under Jesus. There isn’t a right or wrong religion, just religion.
Posted by: tom cassidy | October 12, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
yahhh Carolina, this very forum in this here country where these here kids of mine live and their great great great grandparents are burried. Some after FIGHTING WARS instead of waiting around for a handout.
You want to live under a dictatorship or socialism? theres DOZENS of countries that will do you just ducky!
Posted by: zak | October 12, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
It appears that one nun, doesn’t go for McCain’s mixed messages:
A 106-year-old American nun living in a convent in Rome could well be the oldest person to vote in the 2008 US Presidential election.
Sister Cecilia Gaudette, who last voted for President Eisenhower in 1952, has registered to vote and says she will vote for Democrat Barack Obama.
“I’m encouraged by Senator Obama,” she says.
“I’ve never met him, but he seems to be a good man with a good private life. That’s the first thing.
Asked about her hopes for the US under an Obama presidency, she says: “Peace abroad. BBC
Posted by: ziadora | October 12, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
“Why does the christian right insist that anybody who does not share their beliefs is evil, it sounds just like the muslum extreme view. Our country was founded on freedom of religion, you believe in your God and I will believe in mine. It says “one country under God”, not one country under Jesus. There isn’t a right or wrong religion, just religion. ”
Posted by: tom cassidy
Theyre practicing Sharia law in England. What are you waiting for?
FAR superior ideology than America, I’m sure. That’s why they kicked us out of the colonies, ya know.
Posted by: zak | October 12, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
My God is bigger than your God. Give me a break. Makes as much since as believing in a 600 year old man collecting two of every insect and animal and building a boat to float them around for 40 days or the Red Sea spliiting down the middle. Maybe religions are like the spokes of a bike wheel and the Hub is God and all those spoke lead to the same God. Maybe its all real and maybe its just man made so he can cope with life and death. I believe if there is a God, its somthing so big that its way beyond man’s understanding. To think wars and lives are lost over faith and fables.
Posted by: CW | October 12, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
I’m off to church were I will definitely pray for our country and the enlightenment of its people. Peace.
Posted by: carolina | October 12, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
I cant believe Sarah Palin tries to pass herself off as a devout Christian when she tells so many blatant lies, abuses power and encourages hate. I am sure deep down she knows Obama is not a terrorist as does anyone with a brain but her ambition has totally overwhelemed any shread of decency she had.
Posted by: Jerry Maxwell | October 12, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Anyway SO WHHAT! We’ve got Cliff Clayburn! HA! Beat THAT.
Posted by: zak | October 12, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
For that matter waht is the difference between the Republicans and Al Queda?
They both want you to carry a Holy book in one hand and an assault rifle in the other. They both use fear (terror) to try to make you see things their way. They both want to force their beliefs on you.
Posted by: CW | October 12, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Carolina, gimme a break. “language of hate”.. “peace”…
I’m a programmer. I’ve heard ALL the liberal synergy, paradigm shift, connectivity solution BS to last another dozen lifetimes.
It’s all what made the dotcom bust purged if it’s dillusions and noww the middleman liberal is headed for the HUSSAME fate.
Posted by: zak | October 12, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
NO surprise that another WACKO CONSERVATIVE preacher prays to the White racist big guy in the sky to derail the OBAMA LANDSLIDE in November. A Focus on the Family preacher called on Dog (sorry, I’m dyslexic) to send a great flood to spoil the Obama acceptance speech. It must be the followers of these ugly racists posing as “men of God” who are the 22% of Americans who still think the SHRUB is “doing a good job.”
Posted by: AlChemist | October 12, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
This is not how to represent God. A minister of God is supposed to pray for both parties involved.As a minister of God Pastor Conrad you are a disgrace to your calling. I pray that God in His mercies will forgive you.
Posted by: mike | October 12, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
This is a complete outrage, and McCain obviously condones this ignorant and hateful message because they allowed this pastor to come out and say a prayer such as this to a crowd of thousands. And McCain is wondering why the Republican followers have become paranoid and angry? He is promoting this type of behaviour. This is worse than Rev. Wright and at least Obama doesn’t have Rev. Wright introducing him at his rallies but what does McCain have? An ignorant pastor (still a man) at his rallies introducing him in this way. This is leading Americans to hate other religions and to associate other people who practice different religions than them as the enemy to be wiped out. What is this going to lead to? Are they going to blow up everybody else on the planet who doesn’t believe what they do? This is exactly what’s scary about McCain\Palin. I pray to God that these hate-mongers won’t be running this country.
Posted by: lkinopfl | October 12, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Another right wing nut job spewing indifference!
Posted by: dvine | October 12, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
AlChemist, the only landslide your party caused.. and those fearful of Obama in particular has been the stock market.
Expect more of the Husame, kiddies. If you aren’t set right now, and that liberal get’s in the Whitehouse? You never will be.
YOU are the next base for other successful.. DOMINANT countries to outsource to at pittence on the deceased dollar. Want to be bleeding hearts about fairness? Well you just handed that magnanimity down to your grandchildren if we can’t pull out of this socialism.
Posted by: zak | October 12, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
“This is a complete outrage, and McCain obviously condones this ignorant and hateful message because they allowed this pastor to come out and say a prayer such as this to a crowd of thousands.”
Posted by: lkinopfl
Really? But then Obama allowing Wright to say “goddamn America” doesnt phase you?
Oh right.. he wasnt aware.
And he was only 8 years old when his buddy Ayers actually DID the deed of blowing people up… so theres a pass.
And he “presumed” his FRIEND was rehabilitated.
That Ayers blocked the exits of a family home before attempting to firebomb them? With KIDS inside?
How do you liberals sleep at night after a hard day of cherry-picking morality?
Posted by: zak | October 12, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
I GUESS HIS GOD HE IS REFERING TO IS THE DEVIL ! THIS IS MORE THAN DESPERATE ! McCAIN HIMSELF HAS BEEN ALL HE HAS BEEN POINTING FINGER AT SEN. OBAMA. McCAIN´S PASTOR ??? THIS A DEVIL CONRAD, A DEVIL IN HUMAN BODY PRAYING HATRED ON BEHALF OF A POOR CROWD ! AND McCAIN DID NOT CONDEM THIS??GOD HAVE MERCY !
Posted by: JUNIOR | October 12, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
I am soooo sick of God being portrayed as Republican! There are PLENTY of God-fearing Independents and Democrats who vote that way because they believe we should feed the hungry, help the homeless and be good stewards of this world just like the Bible says! These people are crazy and they make Christians look like crazy people!
We’re also supposed to love our neighbors of ALL faiths, so stop making it be us and against them! America is supposed to be a country with freedom of religion according to the Constitution of the United States!
Posted by: Independent08 | October 12, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Really sad to say, lately, at McCain Rallies, opening speakers have been roiling up crowds up with this kind of simple minded rhetoric instead of speaking on issues or about McCain.. It’s not a problem if you want to question Obama’s ties, that’s legitimate.. Just stop with the 20th Century Hatred in the 21st Century, please! Will several generations have to die before this Country has a chance at Racial Equality? I really hope America and Americans are Much better than this..
Church leaders of any party should be condemned for any type of racial division.. Rev Wright included..
Posted by: dvine | October 12, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
McCAIN/PALIN-POWER-ABUSER ARE DONE! McCAIN WILL RETIRE AT 73 AND PALIN WILL GET BACK TO ALASKA TO FACE IMPEACHMENT FOR HER CRIMES.BUT THE POOR ANIMALS IN THE WILD LIFE WILL BE SUFFERING AGAIN. AMERICA SHOULD NOT ALLOW THE PALINS TO SECEDE ALASKA FROM THE US LIKE THEY´VE BEEN DOING !THAT IS AN ACT OF TREASON BY THE PALINS !
Posted by: JUNIOR | October 12, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
To “J, Florida”:
“I have done all the research I can on both Obama and McCain that I could, and Obama’s connections scare me.”
Gordon Liddy didn’t scare you when your extensive research uncovered the McCain+Liddy connection? Charles Keating didn’t scare you? Any one of the right-wing extremists (anti-semitic, guns-for-death-squads, etc.) McCain has embraced through his life didn’t scare you?
Posted by: Irmanator | October 12, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
I feel sorry for the people who look to this old man for guidance and or answers. They will be led down a road of pain and destruction. It’s amazing that he thinks he can pray to the “One True God” against another one of his children. God is not a game, and I have no doubt this “fake” will dealt by appropriately by our God.
Posted by: SD | October 12, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I never knew God had to guard HIS reputation or that he cared much for American politics (since HE knows the outcome already). This would be almost funny, if there were not people out there who actually believe this way. ;-)
Posted by: Anna | October 12, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Oh yeah, remember the show Cheers and the character Cliff Clayburn, the self-proclaimed expert on everything?
Cliff’s posturing and convoluted explanations were laughable (SSPA), as is Republican communion ridiculous.
Posted by: ziadora | October 12, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
i follow this election since scotland it is sad to see how this election has turn out it is so sad for american i am chretian and proud to pray for both candidates.
God created all race equal
Posted by: emilie | October 12, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
I hope Obama wins and forces this church to pay all the back taxes they owe from the time they started telling their lies about how “GOD” wants McCain to win. BTW Religulus was an awesome film. Bill Mahr is the man.
Posted by: C-Phlat | October 12, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
the pathetic lack of pastor Conrad’s religious training would be hilarious if it wasn’t so scary, his complete lack of understanding of the world religions is appalling, and dangerous.Are we still in the dark ages?
Is this a precursor to an inquisition?
How many of these half baked pseudo men of God are out there telling the masses what to think?
Posted by: 9michael99 | October 12, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
i really wonder who are those people vote jone maccane and scarr obama why? if mccaen became pri…. country will down becouse jone maccaen love war so we all becoame distroy but obama said i will stop war and we going to have change in the country so how do u scarry obama they most be stupped people.
Posted by: tomes | October 12, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
IRS…It’s time to come out of the woodwork and strip this idiot of his Tax exempt status ASAP!!! ENFORCE this CODE. This is racism. END OF STORY. Thank you minister you just confirmed my independent vote for the DEMS THIS year!!
Posted by: independentvoter9 | October 12, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
To Zak:
I believe Mr. Obama denounced the terrorist activities of Mr. Ayers from the 1960′s as “despicable acts”.
Your guilt-by-association 6-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon arguments are wearing thin.
Your statements about Mr. Ayers blocking exits to family homes where he planted bombs – true or not – implies that perhaps Mr. Obama was there helping him. In fact Mr. Obama was 8 years old living in another part of the world when this occurred. Similarly one of the advertisements of McCain alleges “Obama’s friend firebombed my friend’s house” implying that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama planned that act together.
Given that Mr. Ayers was on the Annenberg foundation committe, is it fair to say that one of Ronald Reagan’s rich-insider friends had an agenda to empower domestic terrorists? Given the ages of Mr. Annenberg and Mr. Reagan, you can be sure THEY knew Mr. Ayers history when he was appointed. By your logic we should see headlines “REAGAN PAL KNOWINGLY FUNDS DOMESTIC TERRORIST! REAGAN REWARDS PAL WITH BRITISH AMBASSADORSHIP!”.
Posted by: Irmanator | October 12, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
WE ALL TRY TO CONDEMN ISLAMIC RADICALS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND McCAIN AND HIS PASTOR ARE BUSY RECRUITING CHRISTIAN RADICALS IN AMERICA??? ARE THOSE THE JOBS PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR?? ALL WE HEAR FROM McCAIN CROWD “KILL HIM” “BOMB HIM” “TERRORIST” AND NOW HE CANNOT CONDEM HIS SPIRITUAL LEADER REFERING OBAMA AS “INSULT TO GOD” WHERE DOES THIS PASTOR DIFFER FROM OTHER RADICALS OF McCAIN´S RALLIES?? IS THIS THE LEADERSHIP OF DIVISION McCAIN WANTS TO OFFER?? THE POLLS SIMPLY SHOWS PEOPLE HAVE FINALLY REALISED McCAIN HAS NO ANSWER TO THE PROBLEMS WE FACE. HE SAID HE IS DUMMY IN ECONOMY, THE DEBATES HAVE SHOWN HE ALSO DOESN´T GET IT ON THE ECONOMY AND AT 73 HE PICKED AN UNQUALIFIED PALIN FOUND COMMITING CRIMES IN ALASKA! IT ALL NARROWS DOWN THAT McCAIN IS NOT ONLY FIT BUT ALSO NOT READY TO LEAD!!
Posted by: JUNIOR | October 12, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
WE ALL TRY TO CONDEMN ISLAMIC RADICALS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND McCAIN AND HIS PASTOR ARE BUSY RECRUITING CHRISTIAN RADICALS IN AMERICA??? ARE THOSE THE JOBS PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR?? ALL WE HEAR FROM McCAIN CROWD “KILL HIM” “BOMB HIM” “TERRORIST” AND NOW HE CANNOT CONDEM HIS SPIRITUAL LEADER REFERING OBAMA AS “INSULT TO GOD” WHERE DOES THIS PASTOR DIFFER FROM OTHER RADICALS OF McCAIN´S RALLIES?? IS THIS THE LEADERSHIP OF DIVISION McCAIN WANTS TO OFFER?? THE POLLS SIMPLY SHOWS PEOPLE HAVE FINALLY REALISED McCAIN HAS NO ANSWER TO THE PROBLEMS WE FACE. HE SAID HE IS DUMMY IN ECONOMY, THE DEBATES HAVE SHOWN HE ALSO DOESN´T GET IT ON FOREIGN POLICY AND AT 73 HE PICKED AN UNQUALIFIED PALIN FOUND COMMITING CRIMES IN ALASKA! IT ALL NARROWS DOWN THAT McCAIN IS NOT ONLY FIT BUT ALSO NOT READY TO LEAD!!
Posted by: JUNIOR | October 12, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
i don’t think that the conservatives are real follower of the word of God. i hear all the negative tones form them not from Obama( the one whom they don’t accept his christianity). Sins are listed in the holy bible, like insult Anger and lies. and the people who call themselves “christians” are Excercising this by violating the word of God. if they were real christian they would have a confidnece in their prayer so that God would bring the candidate he thinks better for American. but now the so called christians are trying to select the candidate in their own willing. that is why they are begging mccain to attack obama more instead of begging God to give them the one good for the Job. some pastors are doing something that contradict with bible. they forget their responsibiliy.
bible says;
Therefore the victory is ours when the battle is the Lord’s! The battle is the Lord’s when we abide in His Word. When we abide in God’s Word, “we shall know the truth, and the truth shall make us free!” (John 8:31-32).
Posted by: solom | October 12, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
McCAIN AND HIS CAMPAIGN SHOULD SIT DOWN , PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS AND READ THEIR BIBLE . BUT I HOPE THEY DON´T MISUNDERSTAND THE BIBLE LIKE THEY MISUNDERSTAND THE ECONOMY !
Posted by: JUNIOR | October 12, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
There is an amazing amount of ignorance in the Republican circles. Where do these people come from.
Posted by: Oh Really?! | October 12, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
His name was Edward L. Bernays. He was Sigmund Freud’s Nephew. He was born in Vienna on November 22, 1891 and died in his home at Cambridge, Massachusetts on March 9, 1995 at the age of 103.
Before the early twentieth century, marketers thought of people as being rational beings. They figured all they had to do was reason with the public logically if they wanted to sell their product. Freud’s theories pointed out that everyone also possessed an unconscious mind filled with instincts and hidden emotions as sex, security, aggression, and survival. This unconscious mind greatly influences how people as a whole behave.
Posted by: JMC | October 12, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
poisonous, this is poisonous and vilainious. I don’t want my mind to be poison by those fack/false pastor or priest or fake religions.That is the reason I don’t go to their church.
Posted by: clircle | October 12, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
IF THIS PREACHER WAS A TRUE MAN OF GOD HE WOULD KNOW THAT GOD IS IN CONTROL. IF OBAMA WERE TO WIN IT WILL BE BY THE WILL OF GOD. GOD KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING AND DOES EVERYTHING FOR THE BEST. BUT THESE SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN ARE WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING,AND TEND TO HIDE BEHIND RELIGION
Posted by: MERLE7 | October 12, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Wow!
It is not just Obama, GOD is now on trial at McCain/Palin rally!!
At first I thought I would blame Palin and McCain, but the more I think about it, if they criticize everyone that says such rubbish stuff at their eallies, no one will show up.
That is what happens when they pump all that venomous attack at their opponent, they attract the misfits – every city for sure will have a thousand or so such misfits.
Sad for a respected senator and War hero to be such an embarassment for our political process which we want the world to emulate.
Posted by: Selam | October 12, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
The McCain/Palin tactics to paint Obama as a terrorist feeding the ignorant minds of racists and bigots makes me ashamed that this is going on in my country.
I have felt this constant shame for 8 years and am damn tired of it. They are proving exactly why we need change.
Posted by: DeniseFox | October 12, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
MERLE7 :
Correct, except McCain’s people are pleading with God to reconsider.
Posted by: JMC | October 12, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Sounds like he is planning an all out assualt on Obama with all of our most vile and low traits. It seams as if he is calling on our lowest characters in society to side with him. Religious zealots and racist mobs. Thoroughly unimpressed with Mc Cain not only as a man but as a former soldier myself I am find myself totally unconnected with his message that calls for the hateful,fearful, evils of our societies to against what now seems like the good citizens of America on the Obama side. Ironic from my view point since I am white and also a soldier that Obama represents the good side.
Posted by: Chris | October 12, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
McCain has no integrity. I find it amazing that Cindy can sit up there and make an issue about Obama’s 1 vote against military funding when McCain has a horrible record when it comes to Veteran/Military funding and issues
Posted by: musicisourhigh | October 12, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Sorry to use this term but the McCain/Palin ticket is trying to “bs” their way into the Whitehouse.. McCain has a long record of voting against Veteran & Military funding.. There are many articles @ Veteran Organizations pointing too McCain’s dismal record on funding our Veterans & Military. Hence the reason some Veteran Organizations & troops are voting for Obama.. Cindy McCain knows this but she would never state it..
Posted by: dvine | October 12, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
DEAR IRS….GET TO WORK.
Posted by: independentvoter9 | October 12, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
I don’t think Palin is capable of connecting dots, as she puts it, even if arrows were used to point her to the next dot. And this is not an attack on her gender, it is an attack on her ignorance….the woman is just plain daft.
Posted by: kriskraft63 | October 12, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
It make me laugh what this people are talking about specially,GOP and Mccain-palin bakers and their Pastor and their so called”GOD”.I really don’t know if their God is “Republican” or not. If so can their “Republican God” make Mccain/Palin next US president?? Poll is not saying so.In fact Maccin/Palin will loose Landslide by our GOD ofcourse to save us From this “Evil”people.In 2000 we saw Bush”s stolen Election,Bhogus WMD &Iraq war,Bush’s National Prayer before going to Bhogus Iraq war and killing of millions of Innocent Iraqi people and thosands of US solders,Remember?? These are the same people again taking about their “GOD”. Of course God is one and will save his people from evil and Hatred for human mankind.He probably already decided what we will see in Nov.4 I really wonder how this people will react when PRESIDENT BARAK OBAMA will take oath of office. I am anxiously waitng to see in next month of course what is going to happen. He will be the President of USA and for Republican ,Democrats and independent .
OBAMA/BIDEN “08
Posted by: mksyed | October 12, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Church and State must be separated. Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it…we don’t want people burning at the stake nor any Salem-type witch trials again.
Separation of Church and State is noted in the First Amendment:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
The government takes the stance of neutrality w/respect to religion—neither for nor against.
Additionally, the “Lemon test”, which details the requirements for legislation concerning religion. It consists of three prongs:
(1). The government’s action must have a secular legislative purpose.
(2). The government’s action must not have the primary effect of either advancing or inhibiting religion.
(3). The government’s action must not result in an “excessive government entanglement” with religion.
Now, let’s take this step one further for those people who think the U.S. is based on Christian principals. The “Treaty of Tripoli” in 1797 states the following:
“As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquillity of Musselmen…” Use Wikipedia for more info.
The treaty was started under George Washington’s presidency and ratified by Congress under John Adams, and signed into law by Adams. The treaty was passed with a unanimous vote and not a single protest has ever been recorded even though it was noted in three major newspaper of its day. Our founding fathers knew that religion absolutely corrupts governments, as observed in Europe at that time, and wanted Church and government separated.
The U.S. is the first country to separate Church and State. We the people must be vigilant in protecting the vision of our founding fathers.
Posted by: Guy Ortri | October 12, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
If Sarah Palin connects the dots like she answered questions in the debate, she’ll only connect to the dots that she feels like and ignore all the others as if they aren’t even there.
Posted by: Rick_VY | October 12, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
DemocRATS are being mesmerized by the Pied Piper of Illinois.
Obama lied about the depth of his relationship with Ayers. He effectively launched his political career in Ayers house. Obviously he wasn’t 8 years old anymore, was he?
As for Rev. Wright, he attended his church for 20 years. It is impossible that he hasn’t been listening to this Pastor’s anti-American rhetoric.
OBAMA IS A LYING so he could hypnotize all of you into voting for him.
It is as simple as that.
Wake up all of you before you drown in the river of death that Obama is leading you all.
Posted by: DBoy Rodriguez | October 12, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Are these people insane? They really sound insane.
Posted by: judesuper | October 12, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Short answer: YES, they are insane.
Posted by: RealityByte | October 12, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Please remember that Pastor Conrad is not running for office.
Today, I heard Sarah Palin say this, “….we look to the future, and that is where we find solutions.” Can someone please help me to understand what she is saying? Is this leadership?
When will she actually say something that inspires?
Posted by: Kenneth of Minneapolis | October 12, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Oh, just to clarify my short answer: I meant to say, YES, the blinded far-right evangelical brainwashed GOP are insane.
Posted by: RealityByte | October 12, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Ok, you are correct! Obama lied about Ayers. Can you name me a presidential candidate, in the History of the USA, who has NEVER?
Anyone except for Lincoln, Honest Abe.
Come on people this is politics? If you want to convience someone else to vote for McCain, you need to give up on the “so-called Character” debate. But, the GOP still have 2 trump cards (Guns and Gays)…their bread and butter.
W. Bush said it best in Tennessee, ….fool me once, can’t get fooled again….
Posted by: Kenneth of Minneapolis | October 12, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Has everyone noticed that these republicans LOVE TO ACCUSE and point fingers, but they never back it up with fact??????????????????????
This is why McCain, the war hero (giggle), will not “say it to his face.”
“Obama started his political career in Ayer’s livingroom,” is a bold faced lie. Obama was campaigning long before he was invited to a coffee function by Ayer’s wife.
The only thing Ayers and Obama had in common, is school reform.
Posted by: Vince | October 12, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Pastor Arnold Conrad invocation is not for a political rally. First of all I am shocked it has now come to this too. John McCain has gone too far!!! Why degrade other beliefs? Why is this allowed??
Posted by: Sharonklim | October 12, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
On Conrad, the so-called pastor:
When you are filled with arrogance, and ignorance of those who do not look like you, nor do they think like you, … it is easy to espouse rhetoric that is of an abomination, and is filled with blasphemy.
I wonder if a jewish Rabbai said something like that, how would people respond. I wonder if a catholic priest said that all who are not catholic, are the devil’s demons, how would that be received.
This pastor has spewed out garbage that was spewed out, when they were burning people at the stakes for witchcraft.
Posted by: Vince | October 12, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
I’m sure there are some things God doesn’t like about Obama’s beliefs. However, if it were in God’s plan to stop Obama from being elected, He would do it. He does not need our help.
Besides, if over 50% of Americans want Obama for President, let them have him. When he brings us to ruin morally and structurally, we will simply be getting what we asked for.
Posted by: Mike | October 12, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
TexaslibbyI see you’re impressed by polls. Doesn’t take much to convince you does it. Not a deep thinker are you. Maybe you will be impressed to know that Hamas, Hugo Chavez, the Castro brothers, and Kaddafi also endorse your candidate.Posted by:dropdeadgeorgeous 5:44 PMMark As Violation—————————————Well good. I would love to see trade and travel opened again with Cuba. Maybe its time to quit punishing countries just because they dont live the way we want them to live. Not talking and cutting off coutries that decide to live by their beliefs and cultures is closing the door on the world and has gotten us no where. I know you republicans want to force the world to live by your beliefs and standards but guess what, they wont and I dont blame them. Thats their choice , just like we have ours. We are seen as a bully nation and police nation that thinks everyone should bow to us. Thats not the way real life is nor should we have the right to enforce our beliefs on others. Maybe thats why the world doesnt respect us now. Live and let live. Al Qaeda and the Republicans both want to enforce through fear tactics. They both want everyone to carry a Holy book in one hand and a assault rifle in the other and both think everyone should live by their standards. There is nothing wrong with friends and foes alike endorcing a canidate. World piece is something we strive for , not world US domination.
Posted by: CW | October 12, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Mike wrote: I’m sure there are some things God doesn’t like about Obama’s beliefs. However, if it were in God’s plan to stop Obama from being elected, He would do it. He does not need our help.
Besides, if over 50% of Americans want Obama for President, let them have him. When he brings us to ruin morally and structurally, we will simply be getting what we asked for.
Mike, I am a catholic minister and I repudiate every word you wrote.
Posted by: deacon | October 12, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Having read through all the comments on this article, the only conclusion I have come to is that America is culturally flawed.
Excessive individuality, excessive violence, a widespread inability to meaningfully consider all sides of an issue, and a deep swath of prejudiced christian theocracy seems to have resulted in a social fabric that is deeply intolerant and divided.
I fear for the future here. Not financially, or politically, but socially. America just might not make sense anymore as a country.
Posted by: KO | October 12, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
McCain’s can’t believe, that for once in his life, he can’t have things his way. The American people started off in favor of him, and now, after examining his views and listening to him, they’ve decided they like Obama better. What????It must be a plot! Obama must have operatives subverting the thinking power of everyday Americans!!! It couldn’t possibly be because people disagree with him, the wonderful John McCain!
There was a time when I respected John McCain. That has changed, especialy now that he’s employing playground bully tactics.Stand up and be responsible, John. If your followers are rabidly angry and want to do Obama harm, it’s because of you. You’ve done everything but call your opponent the Antichrist, and I’m sure that’s just a matter of time. What a way to finish your political career.
Posted by: Jean | October 12, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
McCain and Palin seem to attract more nut jobs than the Obama/Biden ticket.
Posted by: Lawrence | October 12, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
I have also read through all the comments.
People, my kindred spirit, who know the Lord and have a daily relationship with Him know that “you shall know them by their fruits”. It goes for both part: good and evil. Please look up fruits of the Spirit in Galatians 5: verses 22 – 25
“…the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance”
“Be not deceived; God is not mocked; for whatsoever a man sow, that shall he also reap” Galatians 6: 7
I can only say that Church and State must stay separated.
But Pastors that err their congregation into false doctrine will have God’s wrath upon them.
Jesus told us “not to be afraid” because whatever happen must happen; it is in God’s plan.
Posted by: Ms. G | October 12, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
I MEAN TO SAY AGAIN: THE LIVING GOD!!
Posted by: Ms. G | October 12, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
BRAITH,
you are kindred spirit.
Posted by: Ms. G | October 12, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
So the DemocRATS know that Pied Piper Obama lied about his relationship with Ayers. And yet they still give him a pass? Why? Are you out of your minds? Obama is an opportunist who has no experience and no qualification but has lots of inclinations towards terrorism and anti-American sentiment. Has he lied also about his Muslim origin? This man is a danger to the security of America.
Posted by: DBoy Rodriguez | October 12, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
“Besides, if over 50% of Americans want Obama for President, let them have him. When he brings us to ruin morally and structurally, we will simply be getting what we asked for.” – CW
Um, we ARE already at a point where we have been THOROUGHLY thrashed and trashed by ruined morality and structyure. If you can’t see it, then you must be blinded by the greed and arrogance, … which was the catalyst of it all in the first place.
Posted by: Vince | October 12, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
I want to thank Palin. Because of her and McCains awful pick Obama will have an easier time winning the election. Palin now says the report clears her of any wrong doing and yet as we all know the report did no such thing. Palin is living is a fantasy world and part of that world tells her she is capable of being VP or even President. The only thing she does well besides lying is keeping that crook Karl Rove busy. Executive Privilege This McCain/Palin/Rove.
Posted by: CW | October 12, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Doesn’t take much to convince you does it. Not a deep thinker are you. Maybe you will be impressed to know that Hamas, Hugo Chavez, the Castro brothers, and Kaddafi also endorse your candidate.Posted by:dropdeadgeorgeous 5:44 PMMark As Violation—————————————Well good. I would love to see trade and travel opened again with Cuba. Maybe its time to quit punishing countries just because they dont live the way we want them to live. Not talking and cutting off coutries that decide to live by their beliefs and cultures is closing the door on the world and has gotten us no where. I know you republicans want to force the world to live by your beliefs and standards but guess what, they wont and I dont blame them. Thats their choice , just like we have ours. We are seen as a bully nation and police nation that thinks everyone should bow to us. Thats not the way real life is nor should we have the right to enforce our beliefs on others. Maybe thats why the world doesnt respect us now. Live and let live. Al Qaeda and the Republicans both want to enforce through fear tactics. They both want everyone to carry a Holy book in one hand and a assault rifle in the other and both think everyone should live by their standards. There is nothing wrong with friends and foes alike endorcing a canidate. World piece is something we strive for , not world US domination.
Posted by: CW | October 12, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Palin was picked for gathering votes, nothing more. For God’s sake, John McCAin met her only ONCE!
Palin has evolved from an embarassment to he party and state, to an instigator and distractor for her weak ticket.
If you are a Republican and you support this Idiot, maybe you should try to re-elect George W. Bush. Oh but the constitution only lets idiots serve two terms. Sorry.
Posted by: Obamatized | October 12, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
God please help the the people of the USA. The hatred, the name calling! It’s the not the government that is destroying the nation, it’s the average citizen whose heart is filled with hatred and disrespect that is tearing the USA apart from the seams. Stop blaming government and kill the hatred in your own dead hearts. Follow peace with all men. God help us all.
Posted by: Lsn2Jah | October 12, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
McCain has done real damage to the Republican brand. What sane person is going to attend his rallies where lunatics rant nonsense. McCain actuallly looks scared of his own base. You could tell he was thinking “what a bunch of nut jobs I have on my side.”
Posted by: val | October 12, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
The division I am reading in these comments is depressing-it looks like the “Divide and Conquer” strategy by the GOP is working. No matter who gets into office there will be no quick or easy way out of this mess but if Obama wins The GOP will do everything it can to undermine his efforts as they’ve always done to any sitting Democratic President(“Power first, Country last”).
ACORN was never found guilty anything(except signing up more Democrats-a crime to GOP).
Posted by: Cecily S | October 12, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
This pastor is nuts and completely out of touch with evangelical thinking. The Evangelical Free Church is la good denomination (Chuck Swindoll the author is of this background), but this pastor is absolutely nuts. He should be censored by his denomination. I am an evangelical Christian who will be voting for Barack Obama … in deed, my faith compels me to vote Democratic this year. Americans can vote as they please … it’s a civic, not religious duty. Like I say, this guy is nuts and does a disservice to Christian Church to allow himself to get mixed up in taking sides politically.
Posted by: Eric | October 12, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
8 ACORN employees were found guilty of election fraud in MO this last April. Obama has lied about Ayers for over a year, his friends in the mayor’s office obstructed the release of CAC records for 9 month, when the records were finally release and he is exposed as a liar he crys foul. Of course being a liberal he accepts no personal responsibility for insulting us with his lie in the first place. He lied about Wright until he was forced to tell the truth. He lied on his reports when he claimed the 832K to ACORN was for lighting and stage setup. It wasn’t until he was caught in that lie that he amended his report and to reflect the payment was for voter registration. After all without ACORN those 3000 dead people wouldn’t have a voice. Those mean republicans don’t want dead people to vote. More reputlican voter suppression.
Posted by: ubu1991 | October 12, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Tucker Bounds is the mastermind behind the continuation of these hateful lies and inuendo against Obama. I hope you never find youself on the unemployment line.
Posted by: Gambi | October 12, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Is McCain in charge of his campaign anymore?
It seems to me he would rather lose honorably than win at all costs, and is genuiniely concearned about the reactions from his own base.
Yet his campaign seem all the more eager to fire them up?
Who is really in control here? The Karl Rove disciples in the campaign or McCain?
For what its worth I think its admirabel that McCain is trying to calm down his more radical supporters.
Posted by: Mark Fielding | October 12, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
You can call me weak if you want and I don’t care, but I am hurt that a person who calls himself a Christian Pastor called by GOD would say the things in this article. Because Obama is a christian, he should remember that true and living GOD will protect his own. He will also vendicate his own. The liars, the fake people who manipulated church members and other Americans by steering them wrong with lies will be exposed. The bible says you will reap what you sow and what you do in darkness will come to light. Their are Christians of all colors and cultures. Christians from all races, cultures and all colors are all over the world. GOD is not looking your skin color sir. He is looking at YOUR HEART !!!!
Posted by: A True Hurt Christian | October 12, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
McCain has completely sold out. He’s crossed the line… past redemption. There is nothing he can do now except retire from the Senate and start his next career as a lobbyist, (like Trent Lott, Tom DeLay, Dennis Haesert, and others.) His legacy has been forever tarnished by the spectre of these Hate Rallies. It just keeps getting worse. The Republican Party is now 99% morally bankrupt.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 12, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
If there is one single Republican politician in DC, other than Chuck Hagel, with the political courage to start a campaign to purge the GOP of the neo-conservative wing-nuts who wrongly believe they now own America… then please step up. It might take 8 years but we need a new Republican Party in the future. Leave the wing-nuts behind… and start anew. We need leaders who are socially flexible and fiscally conservative, be they Democrats or new Republicans. The extremists on the right-wing are fueled by hate and a sense of entitlement. This year we need to send a message and vote 100% Democratic.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 12, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
No matter how you slice it; we are screwed.
Posted by: therockofages | October 12, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
It is great to see John McCain throwing some water on the fires that he and Sarah Palin have ignited. The problem is that those people are truly afraid and dangerous. They are capable of harming someone of color just because they are of color. They have already begun to attack journalist and other media personnel. That hate has been created by McCain/Palin. It is horrible and John McCain, win or lose the campaign, will go into history a dishonorable man and Palin the worst woman (or man) to ever campaign.
Posted by: NancyFromWellington | October 13, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
Wow, it took me fifteen minutes to glance over the posts here. This isn’t a controversial subect I see. My thoughts are thus:
1) We are all God’s children (At least the time I read my Bible.Did a new addition make its way out?)
2) We are beginninng to see a backlash with all of this hatred. There was an inicident in York, PA tonight where the GOP offices were spray painted with the tag Republicans equal slavery, or to that effect. Fred Thompson had an interesting line in the Movie “Hunt for Red October” where he said “Things will get out of hand, and people will die.” It will get uglier with every day that the rhetoric goes unchecked. People that I have talked to are really ######, and this phony race baiting and “God is on our side” crap is not selling.
3)Watch for this election to become a referendum on the sleaze that has permeated Washington and the cronyism that was exemplified in the statement “Heck of a Job, Brownie.”
Just my thoughts, A Vet.
Obama / Biden
Posted by: wesneeds | October 13, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am
I think Barrack was being way too generous to McCain. If I were Barrack I’d just tell McCain to ‘straighten up and fly right.’ No man of honor ( I refer to John McCain) would make speeches deliberately aimed to incite a lynch mob mentality in people via wild hyped-up accusations that rile paranoids nutcases into pre-violent states of mind. This lowers McCain’s campaign into the realm of some very dangerous and unchartered territory. It is also a disgusting and unforgivable act. Governor Palin however, seems to thrive on this sort of rabble rousing paranoid inducing performance to the crowds. Which only tends to reinforce her image in the minds of millions of Americans as being an angry, trailor trash redneck. However, I was more dismayed by her refusal to answer Gwen Ifill’s questions during the VP debate. Ms. Palin preferred instead to recite to us the lines she’d been rehearsing all week from the RNC headquarters. That’s not only amateurish, it’s pathetic.
Posted by: Strongboy in PA | October 13, 2008, 4:38 am 4:38 am
The Smear:
The Republicans, desperate to smear Barack and try to build on their lies about his religion, insinuate that Barack Obama has a deep relationship with William Ayers. William Ayers was once a member of a radical group in the 1960s.
The Truth:
While “guilt by association” is one of the more bogus attacks in any political campaign, the attacks on Barack Obama over William Ayers are particularly “ridiculous,” in the words of one Republican legislator from Illinois.
Barack Obama lived in the same area of Chicago as Ayers, and Ayers has been a respected, politically active member of that community for years. Considering that, it’s actually remarkable how little the two have to do with each other. Early in Barack Obama’s career, he attended one reception in his own honor at Ayers’ house. They also were separately asked by a Republican-created charitable organization to serve on that organization’s board. And that’s it. . “Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment,” reported the New York Times. There’s no friendship between the two, no relationship, no history of working together.
Again quoting the Times, “Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called ‘somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.’” Even Republican State Rep. Diana Nelson, who has worked with both men, calls the attacks “ridiculous,” and declared to NPR, “There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It’s nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It’s so silly.”
This whole manufactured issue was already hashed over in the primary, but the Republicans, desperate to change the subject from the economic crisis and the unpopularity of their disastrous policies, are trying to revive this discredited attack once again. A shady Republican front group even ran ads trying to tie the 60s-era activities of Ayers to Al Qaeda today. If you believe we should get beyond the battles of the 60s to meet the challenges of the 21st century, reject these tired attacks and spread the truth. Forward this message on
Posted by: Kanroh | October 13, 2008, 6:03 am 6:03 am
Oh my god!
Are we playing “my god is bigger than your god?”
This would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
This preacher is a child. McCain would be smart to drop him.
Dont worry, God wont punish you John. God’s a little wiser than a parochial pastor.
Posted by: any123 | October 13, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
The Pastor Arnold Conrad of the Grace Evangelical Free Church of Davenport, Iowa needs to go back to Devinity school. Jews, Muslims and Christians pray to the same God.
Posted by: Hank | October 13, 2008, 6:54 am 6:54 am
Well now i have heard all i want to hear, i hadnt made my mind up until now. I WILL NOT ALLOW myself to vote for a RACIST GOVERNEMENT>…. i will vote for FREEDOM>…
Posted by: made my mind up | October 13, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Is pastor Arnold Conrad crazy. We all pray to ONE GOD be it Hindu, Buddha, Allah, Jews and Christians. Maybe this pastor should educate himself about cultures and religions we pray in different forms but we all pray to GOD. This man is calling himself a pastor what a disgrace he should be removed for the church for preaching such hatred. He has a narrow mind–Hindu, Buddha and Allah–people of color maybe that is what he is trying to say. What a shame seems as though McCain is not in charge of his campaign.
Posted by: Randy | October 13, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
For truth seekers: Look up “Echo Chamber” and see where it leads you. It’s very disturbing. It makes you wonder if there’s any point in searching for truth.
If McCain loses I hope he will recover his integrity and issue a very sincere apology for the way his campaign was conducted.
Posted by: Cecily S | October 13, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Remember in the film “Borat” where he gets cheers for saying something to the effect that Bush should drink the blood of every man, woman, and child in Iraq? Well these are the close-minded brainwashed people the REpublicans are going after. God, Terrorists, Gays, Liberals, Pastor…, Troops, Freedom. These words are like switches in the imprisoned mind. Mention one of these words, turn them around against your opponent and the slaves are sure to support you.
Posted by: c-Phlat | October 13, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
In an ideal world, complete cooperation between different countries creates roads paved with gold, leading to a global utopia. But, historically, and in the real world, human nature and nationalism seem to return individual country’s to a goal of self interest and national security. Rogue leaders and unexpected events, such as Putin and Georgia … Iran, atomic bombs, terrorists and Israel … Chavez’s ambitions … Al Quada … Chinese expansion … etc., always seem to upset the international apple cart of idealists. In addition, we should not take for granted our 200+ year experiment of freedom and capitalism, and be so willing to gamble it away for a socialistic notion which stifles the individual innovation and initiative which made this country great … and a standard of living which makes everyone around the world want to live here! And, since many have decided to also make this a partisan political discourse, by assuring us that Obama, the messiah, has all the answers, allow me to respond to that as well. Obama has no experience, or credentials. When given the chance in the senate, Obama did nothing except to show up and vote present 160 times. Despite his flowery speeches, his track record reveals a focus on personal ambition, associations with anti-American racists and terrorists, massive flip flopping, questionable loyalty to political positions and long time friends, a desire for socialism, and forced redistribution of America’s wealth. He casually promises everyone a chicken in every pot, even if it is the chicken that lays America’s golden eggs. Economics 101 … Every farmer knows that even if you get real hungry, you never eat the seed crop. One of the reasons McCain keeps going back to the issue of character is because although Obama makes great speeches, if his character and integrity are questionable, it doesn’t matter how good his plans sound. Policies and promises from an ambitious politician who can’t be trusted, are equivalent to building a utopian sky scrapper on a rotten foundation.
P.S. Today Obama talked about more jobs, something McCain has been insisting on since day one … except Obama wants to raise taxes to the very people who provide jobs, while McCain wants to cut taxes to businesses as a way to promote jobs
Posted by: Howard | October 13, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
McCain is a Joke! This is just another political stunt coming from the “do anything, say anthing” to win the election campaign of McCain-Palin. His campaign is the one who started all the hateful rhetoric. Using Palin as a “Attack Dog” because McCain is so called “Above” this. Give me a break McCain! It’s your own strategy back-firing! The only reason McCain responded the way he did, is because he knew the cameras were on him. How else was he going to respond? He was backed into a corner. I can’t wait to see them lose this election!
Posted by: Rick S | October 13, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm