‘Muzzled’ Biden’s Halloween Present: A Press Avail
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe reports: Earlier this week, Republicans claimed that Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., had been “muzzled” by the Democratic campaign, noting that he had not held a full-fledged press availability with traveling reporters since a Sept. 7 flight to Montana. But Friday night, in a deserted Ohio eatery on Halloween, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee once again fielded questions from his press corps, refuting any accusations that he had been “muzzled.”
“If I’m muzzled, I don’t know, I’ve done 200 interviews, I’ve been doing, you know, half a dozen to a dozen satellite feeds everyday, I’m doing shows,” Biden said, touting the local interviews he conducts daily. “I mean, so no one said anything to me about it."
Perhaps it was the near-empty diner that left Biden with no alternative than answering questions from the media. When Biden walked into Kewpee, a small burger joint in Lima, Ohio, just after concluding his rally in this northwestern Buckeye State town, the senator found more reporters than diners.
“Everybody’s trick-or-treating,” he noted on this Halloween night.
Standing beside a large white sign that read, “No Loitering, Begging, Solicitation at any time,” Biden quickly gladhanded with the few diners before addressing the swarm of reporters. He cautioned that the upcoming election will be “closer than everybody thinks it is,” expressed hope that his friendship with rival Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was still “intact,” and said that no matter what happens on Tuesday, “this is a mindset-changing election.”
While the Biden regularly rips the McCain campaign’s “scurrilous attacks” on Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., tonight he hoped that his friendship with the Republican nominee was still strong.
“I don’t know, I hope it’s intact,” Biden said of the lawmakers’ relationship. “John and I haven’t had a chance to speak.”
Noting that McCain’s latest ad was “positive,” Biden said he hopes, “John ends this campaign with his strength.”
“One of the things I’ve admired about John, and I’ve considered him, why I’ve considered him a friend, he does, he never gives up,” Biden said. “But so, and I just hope when it’s over, win or lose, you walk up and you shake hands and say, ‘John, we’ve got a lot of work to do.’”
"When this is over, win or lose, John and I are likely to be around, in one form or another, in one job or another," Biden predicted. "And I hope, uh, my hope is we can work together. Because folks, it sounds corny, you cannot do this stuff unless you start to get a little purple here. You can’t make these big decisions. I mean, you need, you need cooperation, no matter how."
But before any post-election pleasantries are exchanged, Obama and Biden still have to defeat McCain and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on Nov. 4. That’s why, Biden said, the Democratic team is campaigning in such a wide array of states.
"We’re going everywhere: Montana, Arizona,” he said, to name a few. “I mean, we’re everywhere we can be because … this election is going to be a lot closer than everybody thinks it is."
"We feel good, we look good, but it’s not over yet,” he cautioned, noting that he is “a politician who has run scared every single election.”
“The fact of the matter is that I have, I have done relatively well in my own elections,” Biden said. “But I have never, never, before the polls close, said, ‘Man, this is in the bag.’”
The Delaware lawmaker expressed confidence in Democrats’ chances in Pennsylvania and Virginia, but concern about their options in Florida, North Carolina, Missouri and Ohio.
“I think it’s going to be close in Florida, it’s going to be close here, it’s going to be close in Missouri. I think it’s going to close. … I don’t think it will be that close in Pennsylvania. I feel very good about Pennsylvania, maybe because I know the state so well,” said the Scranton-born Biden. “I’m not overconfident about it, but I feel, you know, real good there. I think it’s going to be close in North Carolina. You know, Virginia feels really good but, you know, it ain’t till it happens.”
But if the Democrats do claim the Oval Office and also reach the 60-seat threshold in the Senate?
"It would be good for the country," Biden said.
Whoever emerges victorious Tuesday night, Biden called this a “mindset-changing election,” noting the nation’s struggling economy and later, its damaged reputation due to foreign policy decisions such as the war in Iraq.
“We’re in a deep hole, man,” he said. “And the Republicans get it. The Republicans, they’re going to be very chastened by this election, win or lose. I doubt whether you’re going to see a lot of Republicans coming back talking about compassionate conservatism. I doubt whether you’re going to find many Republicans in the United States House and Senate talking about how if you just let this stuff trickle down, and all you got to do is more of the same.”
“I mean, they don’t use that phraseology, but I really think this is a mindset-changing election,” he added. “And so I think there is going to be a center that can generate some genuine, bipartisan consensus.”
Eventually, a few kids summoned up the courage to approach Biden as he addressed the press, bringing an end to the impromptu question-and-answer session. But maybe reporters will get another chance to pepper the senator Saturday, when Biden spends a second-straight day busing around the battleground Buckeye State. Ohio diner stops appear to be a favorite place for Biden to open up. The last time the veep nominee answered any questions at all from his traveling press corps was Oct. 14 across the state at an eatery in Lisbon.
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HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!! The obama gang is in for a Big SURPRISE – we’re those
18 Million Hillary supporters that did NOT unite, support and will NOT vote for obama. We have been quietly watching & waiting for our turn – and the time is near!
VOTE SMART: McCain/Palin – we can
TRUST them
Posted by: Molly | October 31, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Molly, your a fool, their own party doesn’t trust them, how can we.
Posted by: JR | October 31, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Thats what happens when your brain dead look what happened when the brain dead voted for Bush in 2004. Lets hope we can get someone in that cares about this country and not Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and a score to settle with Vietnam. God help us all another 4 years of a republican and this country can kiss its arse goodby
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | October 31, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
I guess she missed the poll that stated 84% of Hillary supporters now support Obama.
So much for the “18 million”
Thankfully, most of Hillary’s supporters realized that there were more important issues at stake than petty grudges.
My own mother was a Hillary delegate in WA, and even she knows better than to vote for McCain and Talking Parrot.
Palin was the clincher for her. She was so insulted by McCain’s pick she instantly decided she had to vote for Obama.
No doubt, she wanted Hillary in the White House, but there’s still a very good chance that could happen.
Posted by: Nice Try Though | October 31, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
The unrelentless attack on Sarah Palin by the Obama campaign is going to back fire. It’s resented by most women whether they agree with her politics or not.
Posted by: Hippie Smasher | October 31, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Yeah Molly, it’s either 18 Million or one. No progressive will ever vote GOP. Admit it: you’re a republican.
peace
Posted by: david | October 31, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
“Hippie Smasher”
I had heard irregardless but not unrelentless.
“Unrelentless” is NOT a word! (neither is irregardless)
Go back to school!
Peace
Posted by: Educated Hippie | October 31, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
I actually liked reading this. Whatever side of the political spectrum, whenever someone speaks of the other side with respect it gives me a bit of hope for the future of American politics.
Posted by: Brian | October 31, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
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*** The unrelentless attack on Sarah Palin *** by the Obama campaign is going to back
*** fire. It’s resented by most women
*** whether they agree with her politics
*** or not.
That would assume that women are voting purely based on the candidates gender. Polls don’t show that.. and anyone who votes for irrational reasons such as that do greater harm to our country than good, and would do a greater service by sitting out the election and letting the more intelligent individuals decide the race.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108022/Candidate-Support-Gender.aspx
Obama – for a better America, even for the idiots.
Posted by: jdb | October 31, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Vote Hillary!!!
Write her in, I did!
Posted by: gg | October 31, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
It looks as if Obama might be a little upset come election night! The American people are starting to realize what he is all about with his “redistributing the wealth” and all his radical friends! I would not want to be in that 1 Million crowd come election night, because if the ONE does not win the city of Chicago will be set on Fire!
ZOGBY SATURDAY: Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error… The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama’s lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all…
Posted by: chuck | October 31, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
We’ll see.
Posted by: Kitty | November 1, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Well I’m the 18 million former Hillary supporters and we do support Obama. So my dear republican sisters stop lying like your leader McCain. God, have you not shame. We all detect the sly McCain lie type sour grapes of the would-be chiristians.
Posted by: MissClarity | November 1, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
ZOGBY SATURDAY: Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error… The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama’s lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all…
Posted by: chuck | November 1, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
“talking parrot”???!!
How sexist can you get? Geez. Get over it. she’s a heck of a lot smarter than you…and most of the people around her.
Posted by: francis | November 1, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Funny how the press corps admit that Biden is not a very interesting candidate to constantly prey on. We even hear story about how sparse his coverage is, compared to the Obama, Palin, or McCain, unless he says one or two strange things.
Yet days before the election, we are complaining that he is muzzled? Has anybody been turned down from a Biden’s interview before?
Posted by: ItalianJob | November 1, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
“If I’m muzzled, I don’t know, I’ve done 200 interviews, I’ve been doing, you know, half a dozen to a dozen satellite feeds everyday, I’m doing shows,” Biden said, touting the local interviews he conducts daily. “I mean, so no one said anything to me about it.”
How many has Palin done? Oh, that’s right, she is the one truly being muzzled, because when she isn’t, they wind up using her interview transcripts on SNL verbatim, and get huge laughs without having to change a word. What more could a comedy writer ask for!
Posted by: benji | November 1, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Seems to me that we’ve heard a lot about Joe the Plumber. If I recall from the Nixon administration, they had a bunch of Plumbers too and they also used them in an attempt to subvert an election. G. Gordon Liddy was a Plumber and a domestic terrorist who actually spent time in jail. John McCain calls him a friend and has accepted money from him and has appeared on his show. So much for paling around with a terrorist. Obama and Biden are the only two logical choices for the change that this country requires to change the course of the country, and most of Hillary voters recognize this, except evidently, Molly.
Posted by: Mark | November 1, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Every attack on Palin is “sexist”, lol. Her coverage in the left media has been negative, you gotta admit that. But anybody else (male or female) would have had the same fate running against the machine Obama produced. Ask Joe the Plumber.
I do hope that the 18 millions cracks noticed that back when Clinton was been relentlessly attacked by the right media, it wasn’t sexist. I remember Clinton being called the B word too. And now they think all of the sudden people will switch to them cause Palin is a woman. How are you going to base your shot at the WHITE HOUSE on flimsy and unreliable politics like this? There ought to be a stronger strategy in McCain’s camp.
Posted by: ItalianJob | November 1, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Say what you want about Palin (most of it untrue and I and many, many others believe that McCain made a fantastic selection anyway), but I really fail to see how the Biden selection has been a positive for Sen. Obama?
Posted by: Grand Old Party | November 1, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
To Hippie Smasher:
Actually it isn’t the Obama campaign at all that has been panning Palin. Instead, it is the news media. The clincher as to Palin was when even Republican leaders themselves began admitting that Palin was woefully underqualified and was a very ill considered choice for Vice President. Palin herself has invited attacks by her own snide and denigrating attacks on Obama, his supporters, and those she says are anti-American. She is divisive and narrow minded, and as of 4 months ago when asked about Iraq, she said she “really hadn’t thought about it”. Do you really call that Presidential material??? Palin is who Palin is. No need to tear her down. She just isn’t ready for national office at this point.
Posted by: CharleneW | November 1, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
I am voting for Obama. And I am voting for Biden. I was so pleased that Obama picked a Roman Catholic as his running mate. Joe Biden represents me and my beliefs. If you have not heard him, Joe Biden is very vocal on issues that represent us blue collar people. Which is no suprise to me since the Catholic Church backs the poor.
Posted by: Mike in KY | November 1, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
but I really fail to see how the Biden selection has been a positive for Sen. Obama?
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Posted by: Grand Old Party | Nov 1, 2008 12:16:41 AM
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You need to take off your GOP sunglasses.. I did, and wow, what a difference.. Reality is much brighter out here in the real world!
Posted by: jdb | November 1, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Hey “chuck” why don’t you do some research on our tax system huh?
It is a progressive system, used by every president since before Reagan. And unless you think Reagan was a socialist, which I highly doubt, then in that case you are a moron.
All Obama is doing is putting the tax back where it was BEFORE. Move it up, move it down, either way whoever moves it is just adjusting the system which is progressive anyway.
Posted by: mrh | November 1, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Grand Old Party, you fail to see that, precisely because there is nothing there to see. You can pick a candidate to help you mobilize your base, win an election, or govern starting on January.
Obama has been vocal about picking Biden for the third option. It was no secret that Biden cannot mobilize huge crowds with his oratory, but having being the leader on the Foreign Relation Commitee, once the election is won, he will be the right hand man.
Posted by: ItalianJob | November 1, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
What a bunch of sourpuss‘s !
You all know McCain/Palin will be beaten like a drum.
So all you can do is whine and complain.
We already had 16 years of that.
Please give us all a break and stow it for the next four years, please.
Posted by: Frank Venice | November 1, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
So, three days ago the big story was Biden being ambushed by a right-wing ideologue posing as a local tv reporter in Florida. Now the story is that he never speaks to the press. Impressive logic. Stellar observational skills.
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Zogby? ZOGBY?? Lol….Have you done any research whatsoever into Zogby’s polling history? Zogby’s outfit is NOTORIOUS for finessing his polls. Don’t take my word for it – Google is your friend.
Posted by: Michael Compton | November 1, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
How does the richest man in the world feel about taxes? Warren Buffett in an interview with Tom Brokaw:
Tom: You’ve talked about in your own office, for example, you pay a much lower tax rate with all of your wealth than, say, a receptionist does.
Warren: That’s exactly right, Tom, and I think the only way to do it is with specifics. In our office 15 people cooperated in a survey, out of 18, I didn’t make anybody do it. And my total taxes paid, payroll taxes plus income tax, mine came to 17.7 percent. The average for the office was 32.9 percent. There wasn’t anybody in the office, from the receptionist on, who paid a lower tax rate. And I have no tax planning, I don’t have an accountant, I don’t have tax shelters. I just follow what the U.S. Congress tells me to do.
And how about the rest of the wealthy?
Tom on set: And to further prove his point, Buffett has challenged .. he’s offered a million dollars to charity to any of the Forbes 400 richest people who can show on average that they pay a higher tax rate than their secretaries pay, but so far, Brian, he’s had no takers.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21543506
And John still thinks they are paying too much.. what a guy!
Vote for McCain if you want to pay more taxes so the wealthy can pay even less!
Posted by: Warren | November 1, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
This post is rambling, but I suppose it’s covering Biden eh’. I do have problems with the hole premise though. Biden has been giving interviews all the time. Remember that interview with that nutjob in Florida?
http://demockracy.com/the-fruit-fly-dilemma-palins-war-on-science/
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
francis said “How sexist can you get?”
Typical of a GOP tool. There’s nothing sexist about the insult “talking parrot”, it’s a great insult for dummies of both sexes.
“Geez. Get over it. she’s a heck of a lot smarter than you…and most of the people around her.”
If she’s smarter than most of the people around her, then people should run, and not walk, away from the McCain campaign. Anyone who thinks that woman is smart, just go watch the Couric interview. Anyone who thinks that “what newspaper do you read?’ is a “gotcha” question is a dimbulb. McCain is way smarter than her as his most of his staff, most of her staff, and most of the people in my neighborhood.
And her latest demonstration of stupidity? she thinks the media exercising its first amendment right to criticize what she says with her first amendment right, is a violation of her first amendment right. This woman simply has no clue what the constitution says about anything. She doesn’t know what the Vice president does, she doesn’t know what the first amendment is about, she doesn’t know anything. That’s why she’s such a perfect match for the right wing base, she perfectly represents their sheer ignorance on just about everything.
Comparing her politically to Hillary Clinton is like comparing a three year old with a ukulele to Eric Clapton. There simply is no comparison. Palin is a poser, pretending to be something she’s not. She’s in way over her head and all anyone has to do to verify that is watch how she gets owned by simple questions the press asks.
If you can’t handle softball questions like “what papers do you read?”, you aren’t ready for the whitehouse. Your generals and the head of the CIA will be asking you much tougher questions than that, and NO, you can’t get back to them with that, you betcha.
Posted by: Benjamin | November 1, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
If you want to give away your own PB&J sandwich to a friend of yours who forgot their lunch, that’s cool. It’s called charity. It’s the conservative thing to do.
If the teacher comes and takes half of your sandwich and decides to give it, agaist your will, to the bullies that tease you endlessly about your dumbo ears, that’s socialism.
You don’t want me to give my money to others that I think need it. You want to tax me and “spread the wealth” to those people from whom you can bribe a vote.
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Turn Biden loose! A real student of history. One who after serving many years in the senate knows that FDR went on national tv during the Great Depression to calm public fears. What a joke! Wrong Prez and no tv. Also, what was that “3 letter word” your illustrious leader spoke of? You said it is J-O-B-S! Joe that is 4 letters! Pretty scary isn’t it? Turn him loose!
Posted by: Jumpin_George | November 1, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
KING: You don’t believe Barack Obama is a socialist, do you?
MCCAIN: No. But, I do believe — I do believe that he’s been in the far left of American politics.
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If you want to pay more in taxes so the wealthy can pay less, vote McCain.
Posted by: jdb | November 1, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
The headline says muzzled. Biden refutes the idea with facts, but the headline still screams against the facts.
Posted by: Arye Michael Bender | November 1, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Everyone pays taxes.. McCain will tax you a bit more so the rich can be taxed less. Simple economics. those who do not understand it simply do not understand it.
MCCAIN OBAMA
Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
$603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
$227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
$161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
$112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
$66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
$38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
$19K-$38K -$113 -$892
Under $19K -$19 -$567
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm
Posted by: wilber | November 1, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
What the hell is a “NASCAR voter”? Is that some kind of code for white American racists?
Posted by: NFL Voter | November 1, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
TO: “jdb”
You Sir are the moron… McCain has said time and time again, without the changing numbers like your Messiah,that he plans to KEEP Bush’s tax cuts, FREEZE spending, make huge cuts in programs and balance budget. Obama has said to RAISE taxes, ie: Capital Gains, Payroll and cut MILITARY by 25%. Your fool Obama-Yo-momma said he would not raise on below 300k, then went 250k, then went 200k, then went 150k, now we have come all the way down to 120k… ANYMORE QUESTIONS? All this in a two week span… WOW, you are the one in for a surprise when AND IF your Lord and Master Obama gets to 42k as he and Biden did just last year…
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
It is amazing to me that in a desperate attempt to latch on to something, the GOP is holding Palin, woman who is so obviously unqualified for the job, up as the face of the republican party. If she were a democrat, they would be crucifying her ten times as much.
Are they forgetting they have known this woman less than six weeks? I wouldn’t let someone I have know for that long watch my dog, much less help run the country.
Posted by: Meghan | November 1, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Molly……you’re an angry woman, and good for you, vote for McCain. This republican is for the winning team: OBAMA-BIDEN.
You might get some pig lipstick from my party’s nightmare vp. You might also learn something good from Sarah the Drag.
Posted by: khatts98178 | November 1, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Just a heartbeat away from the presidency. Kind of scary? But seriously…why doesn’t Joe talk more about his son and brother have been indicted and accused of fraud. That would be really interesting and all in the country are always in change. We’d all love to hear Joe’s explanation of The on going legal actions in New York State Supreme Court since 2007, and they focus on Hunter and James Biden’s involvement in Paradigm Companies LLC, a hedge fund group. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, briefly served as president of the firm. Instead of change it sounds like more of the same old same old!
Posted by: Jim In Atlanta | November 1, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
To Mark Garnett: What part of “You will pay higher taxes under McCain than under Obama” do you not seem to understand?
Posted by: wilber | November 1, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Is anyone else concerned that gg is going to light Chicago on fire when Obama, and the rest of us Americans, win this election?
terrorists.
Posted by: abe | November 1, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Meghan,
We have “known” your new Messiah for a few years, still no records from his college days, 131 “present” votes, the LA Times is hidding and covering up a “toast” to a PLO terrorist made by Obama, but yet you leave that out… hummmmmm But question a sitting Govonor over a man in the Senate for less than 1 year…
Thanks for helping your cause…
If you want to give away your own PB&J sandwich to a friend of yours who forgot their lunch, that’s cool. It’s called charity. It’s the conservative thing to do.
If the teacher comes and takes half of your sandwich and decides to give it, agaist your will, to the bullies that tease you endlessly about your dumbo ears, that’s socialism.
You don’t want me to give my money to others that I think need it. You want to tax me and “spread the wealth” to those people from whom you can bribe a vote.
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Mark, you apparently have no clue.. please crawl back under your rock.. you can come out after January..
Posted by: wilber | November 1, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
I too was a staunch Hillary supporter that would have supported McCain had his VP choice been moderate or not an extreme right-winger who is more concerned with pushing her political career than focusing on the job at hand. Additionally, I wasn’t very impressed with Biden at first, however, I would choose him any day over Ms. Palin to step into the Commander in Chief position should the need ever arise.
I actually enjoyed hearing Biden’s comments in this relaxed interview. If Biden reminds me of the “wooden man” who unsuccessfully ran in 2000 in his mannerism, then Sarah Palin’s inability to put together a cohesive sentence that isn’t scripted is akin to Dan Quayle’s inability to veer off script. “Hawaii … it is the 50th state … it’s an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean…” –Dan Qualye addressing voters in Hawaii.
Posted by: darsaw | November 1, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
i do not understand how stupid American can be. What is so great about Obama?
American are so stupid. Do not vote for
Obama just to get back at Bush.
Posted by: notforobama | November 1, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
TO: “wilber”,
Keep drinkin the kool-aid friend, or should I say Comrade? Get your hand OUT of my pocket for your WELFARE, womb to tomb, free to those that ALREADY PAY NO TAXS, fairness doctrine, POL toasting, American terrorist loving, drug using, American hating preacher of 20, Messaih of Louis farakhan…
His tax cuts have gone from 300k, to 250k, to 200k, to 150k, to today 125k and back to 200k… SO WHAT IS THE REAL NUMBER, and all that in just two weeks.
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Hippie Smasher….you must be smashing your ears and especially your brain. The Obama-Biden campaign team never panning or palling your precious Sarah Drag Palin. Everytime she opens her mouth, she reveals herself. No, most women don’t support her. I’m a republican woman, and very much ashame of her ignorance of domestic, national and international issues. She might be good for Alaska, but not for the vp.
Posted by: khatts98178 | November 1, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
“I am disappointed that the Senate Finance Committee preferred instead to cut the top tax rate of 39.6% to 36%, thereby granting generous tax relief to the wealthiest individuals of our country at the expense of lower- and middle-income American taxpayers.” [McCain Senate floor statement, May 21, 2001]
I’m John McCain, and I don’t know if I approve this message or not.
Posted by: JohnM | November 1, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
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SO WHAT IS THE REAL NUMBER,
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250K.. has been, still is.. keep grasping..
Posted by: jdb | November 1, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
By: DMD in LA post
Obama preaches that we should be our “brother’s keeper”; yet, his actions speak words from another sermon.
The Aunt, of whom you wrote so movingly about in your first autobiography, is now disabled and living in a slum in Boston….But, according to you, so what?
Your uncle has been evicted in Boston….But, according to you, so what?
Your brother lives in a hut in Kenya on less than $1 a day… But, according to you, so what?
Your Aunt lives in London, but you could not be bothered to visit her on your European tour. But, according to you, so what?
You want to be your brother/sister’s keeper? Well, you have done a pretty poor job of it so why should American’s family be satisfied? Sen. Obama, you tell us not to worry because you are going to take care of America’s family. Really? Are you drinking your own red Kool-Aid?
BELIEVE ME, Sen. Obama, your ability to take care of families is laughable, especially since you have failed so miserably with your own.
“Do as I say, but not as I do” says Sen. Obama. Obama, you need not worry about my family. We can and will and promise that our family will be better off than your own.
Sen. Obama, if you are so concerned about being your brother’s keeper, please start with your own; otherwise, all you are is “Just words…just speeches…just HOPE…just CHANGE.”
No ObamaJihad for President.
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
So “jdb” can you explain the numbers? They are all on video, Obama went from 300 to 250, where he HAS stayed pretty good, but his infomercial said 200k, but at his rally that same night it was back at 250k, all on video. Binden said 150k and Richardson, a man Obama has said he’d put on his team, said 125k…
The facts (and video proof are on my side we can let folks look it up and decide for themselves.
*** If you want to give away your own PB&J sandwich to a friend of yours who forgot their lunch, that’s cool. It’s called charity. It’s the conservative thing to do.
If the teacher comes and takes half of your sandwich and decides to give it, agaist your will, to the bullies that tease you endlessly about your dumbo ears, that’s socialism.
You don’t want me to give my money to others that I think need it. You want to tax me and “spread the wealth” to those people from whom you can bribe a vote.
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
By: GlobalEye: BillinSterlingVA
Welcome what life will be like under an Obama administration. Ever watch talk shows with a “moderator”, a Democrat and a Republican? The first time a Republican starts to make a good point, the Democrat starts talking over him, basically shouting him down. The fact that it happens that way almost every time can only mean they are instructed to do that. It’s like the big fake smile we read they were couched to wear.
To a Democrat, “unity” means no views are allowed to be presented but theirs. Real truth can be dangerous. Like kicking you off the plane, not exhibiting “unity” with the Party must be punished.
October 31, 2008 at 9:54 p.m.
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Mark – what part of economics 101 are you having trouble grasping? That you will be forced to give part of your pb&j sandwich to the teacher so it can, along with everyone elses, be used to feed the teachers and exchanged for books and supplies? Take a pick, you will be doing that under Obama or McCain.. it’s called paying taxes, required to pay for government spending. Economics 101.
The difference between the two, is that the guy with 1 sandwich will wind up giving a little more under McCain than he would under Obama, and the guy with the lunch truck will give a little less under McCain than under Obama.
Does that 4th grade analogy suit you better?
Obama – for a better America, even for idiots!
Posted by: wilber | November 1, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Well said, Benjamin. Any person who could support McCain/Palin after having supported Clinton, was obviously supporting Clinton for the wrong reasons, for there is truly no comparison between the two. Clinton is a highly educated, experienced, serious politician, while Palin is a caricature of an educated, experienced politician, and her minuses do not stop there. The ill-thought republican ticket represents all that is wrong with America, from its hate-mongering, strong-arm, oil-grabbing imperialism to its bible-thumping, xenophobic right.
It is safe to say that, if elected, Mr. McCain would continue the same deceitful, destructive, aggressive politics at home and abroad that have ruined America, its strong economic base and its standing on the world political stage. His circus-act-campaign is so pathetic from afar that it is indeed surprising that Americans have not simply revolted against him and the uneducated, fanatical, bible-thumping fascist (whose views on religion do not differ in any way from those of the terrorists she so longs to have a shot at, and who claims to be fulfilling God’s will), that he has chosen as his running mate.
Despite the fact that McCain has supported the current Republican administration and their politics at every turn throughout the last eight years, and people like them throughout his entire political career, he now attempts to convince America that he stands for change, a stance which is, after all, somewhat offensive when considering the fact that even a young child knows that a leopard can’t change his spots. He obviously believes that Americans are stupid enough to believe what a young child will not believe.
McCain’s political choices, along with his choice of a beauty queen running mate, an uneducated rustic chosen to win over women voters from the failed Clinton attempt, prove his contempt for every American and, indeed, for every citizen of the planet, for should something happen to him, this person would be in control of the most powerful country, the most destructive nuclear arsenal in the world, a threat to the very existence of life as we know it. He did choose one of his own, however, for McCain himself poses a serious threat to world security, for there is something terribly, intrinsically wrong with this candidate who is known for inability to control his anger, who could come up with the infamous ditty ‘bomb, bomb, bomb……’, who has based his campaign on what he describes as his own heroism after having been shot down and made a prisoner of war (a story which, most conveniently for him, can never be verified) rather than on the issues.
There is a reason that 96% of all expatriates are for Obama. We see from afar the destruction wreaked on America by the Republican party and hope to see it come to an end.
Posted by: achillois | November 1, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
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So “jdb” can you explain the numbers?
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Sure.. the break even point is $250K.
Simple, huh?
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
Posted by: wilber | November 1, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
By: GlobalEye: By SHEDHAIR
more familiar stuff
Communist forces were now also undeterred from conquering American-allied Cambodia. Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge-Marxists with a curiously al-Qaeda-esque zealotry for social reconstruction, expelled half the population from their homes, engaged in systematic torture, starvation and forced labor, destroyed every book they found, forbade married people from speaking for extended periods of time and forbade sexual relations entirely, and conducted public mass executions-often killing entire families at once. Death toll: nearly 2 million-almost 1/3 of the entire country-butchered in the “killing fields.” (Reliably, The New York Times reflected the voice of the Democrats, arguing that the Khmer Rouge would be moderate-as would other local communist forces-once the Americans would leave.)
Who were those Democrats responsible for such a policy? Could such people be trusted to handle a post-Bush Iraq? Are people with that blood on their consciences still in power? Well, here’s a hint: one went on to vote against the first Gulf War, got caught in a plagiarizing scandal, opposed the Alaska pipeline and opposed the aforementioned successful “surge.” Yep, the man now providing foreign policy experience, judgment and “gravitas” to the Obama candidacy: a young anti-war Senator named Joe Biden.
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Of course, if Nixon hadn’t ordered secret bombing of Cambodia, resulting in the destabilising of the Cambodian monarchy and government, then the likes of the Khmer Rouge might not have been able to forment unrest in the beleagured citizenry (I mean, who likes to have their towns and villages bombed by American B52′s?) and eventually take over!
Republicans always forget about that illegal secret bombing.
Must be what gave Reagan the idea to secretly sell arms to our enemy Iran!
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
Biden made 2.25 Million last year and gave $3,600.oo to charity…
Obama made 1.72 Million last year, gave $644.oo to charity…
They are ready to USE YOUR MONEY to help “poor and unfortunate: folks, but just NOT THIER OWN MONEY !!!
Facts hurt…
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Mark Garnett – I really don’t think you are that stupid and simply playing the ‘twist the numbers’ game hoping some less intelligent fool buys into it. It’s been the same all along, and claiming any different is not being honest, in a very similar manor to McCain. If you wanted the facts, you know where to get them. In the mean time, you are simply a waste of electrons.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108043/Candidate-Support-Education.aspx
Posted by: jdb | November 1, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Mark Garnett….they don’t even drink cool aid, water they preferred. Wow boy, so hard for you to swallow that Obama is going to be your president, Ha! Beating out your old angry maverick, without any vision for this country. He’s a flip-flop maverick.
Hateful rhetoric is so o o o old, and it’s not getting you anywhere. As a matter of fact, you’re just described yourself and your kind real well.
Just like MLK, Jr., he changed this country for the best. LOVE, RATHER THAN HATE. UNITY NOT DIVISION. Well, I guess you won’t relate on that because you’re so full of hate and BS. You wanted to know the real number, just go vote on Nov. 4. You’ll find out then.
OBAMA-BIDEN ticket is going to win. Hallelujah….Amen.
Posted by: khatts98178 | November 1, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
By: gegsr1
super_bly, Have you seen Mr. Obama’s grades in Harvard? That’s surprising because no one else has because they were never released. So please cut the bull you spread Big O is just that 0 nothing a made up inexperienced Senator with nothing concrete to back him up.
No expierience
Never wrote a piece of legistraion that improve the American public.
Votes with his party 96% of the time(when he votes)
Recovering pot smoker
recovering cocaine user
Ayers
Recko
etc.
etc.
etc
Lets face it he talks nice and thats it!
So tell me if i promise you the moon will you vote for me?
Just one moon bat tell me what he has done.
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
“jdb” keeps ignoring his own MASTERS words, VIDEOS showing all Obama’s differing numbers over the last two weeks, along with his voting record last year of a tax increase for folks at 42K.. well that’s not allowed… You must head straight to “fairness doctrine”, “turn State computers on citzen to silence, find dirt”, “small childrens choir singing PRAISE TO THE LEADER”, “goose stepping black students CHANTING Obama is thier reason for life” land… It’s a wonderful place, it’s right next to denile…
McCain is gaining on you guys, we are within the margin, and remember last two times, get us close and YOUR TOAST!
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
http://democraticactionteam.org/redstatesocialism/index.html
Mark — here’s the lunch I’m sharing with friends.
Posted by: GWB | November 1, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
OBAMA & THE ARABS – WHY MUSLIMS SEE HIM AS ONE OF THEM
New York Post
October 28, 2008
‘OBAMA! Inshallah!” – Obama! Allah willing! That slogan, scribbled on walls in Gaza, indicates the hopes that Barack Obama has inspired among Arabs.
While Obama has tried to push his origins into the background, his “Islamic roots” have won him a place in many Arabs’ hearts.
One columnist, Mohamed Al-Menshawi, hails Obama as “the candidate with Muslim roots” and as the “harbinger of solidarity between Americans and the Muslim world.”
Another, Al-Jazeera’s Aala al-Bayoumi, notes: “Had it not been for Obama, Arabs would not even bother to follow the US presidential race.” What makes the difference is Obama’s “Islamic and African roots.”
Marwan Bishara hails Obama’s “radical politics”: “For the US to vote in an African-American progressive liberal would certainly mark a departure from the hyper and violent conservatism of the Bush-McCain camp,” he writes. An Obama presidency “would be better for both the US and the Arab world.”
Obama especially appeals to pan-Arab nationalists angry at the United States for having ousted Saddam Hussein. Obama’s promise to leave Iraq gives pan-Arabs their only chance (albeit slim) to destroy the new Iraqi democracy.
While radical Arabs, including the Hamas leadership, favor Obama, most Arab officials are wary of him. They fear his inexperience and leftist connections might destroy all that has been gained in Iraq, provoke a bigger mess in Afghanistan, trigger a war with Pakistan and open the way for Khomeinist hegemony in the region.
Note that Obama wouldn’t be the first politician with Muslim roots to lead a major non-Muslim country. Carlos Menem, a Muslim of Syrian descent, served as Argentina’s president from 1989 to 1999. But he dropped his Arab-Islamic first name and adopted his baptismal Christian name before entering politics.
Obama, by contrast, has retained his Arabic-Islamic names. (Barack means “blessed” and Hussein means “beautiful.”) His family name is Swahili, an East African lingua franca based on Arabic. Arab commentators note that his siblings also all have Arabic Muslim names. His sister is called Oumah, Arabic for “the community of the faithful his older daughter, Malia, bears the name of a daughter of the Caliph Othman, who commissioned the compilation of the first edition of the Koran. That Obama’s stepfather was also a Muslim (from Indonesia) strengthens the empathy that many Arabs feel for him.
The Syrian regime has also indicated its preference for Obama, not least because President Bush forced it to end its 29-year military occupation of Lebanon. Buthaina Shaaban, an adviser to President Bashar al-Assad, has welcomed Obama’s call for radical change in US policy. She writes, “The change suggested by Obama is essential not only for the US but for the entire human family.”
Also enthusiastic for Obama is the Lebanese Hezbollah. The party’s No. 2, Sheik Naim al-Kassim, went as far as inviting Americans to vote Obama as a step toward peace with Islam. (The party disowned his comments as “personal opinion.”) Pro- Hezbollah columnist Amal Saad-Ghorayeb has no doubt that Arabs should welcome an Obama presidency because “African-Americans are more sympathetic to Arabs because they, too, are oppressed.”
Hussein Shobokshi, a liberal Saudi commentator, predicts that “Obama’s ascent to power in America would mark an important moral transformation in the superpower and is a healthy indicator of the long-awaited improvement in the international arena.” He envisages a new system in America in which “nongovernmental institutions will participate in the political decision-making process in an effective manner,” while “capitalism will undergo fundamental adjustment.”
Another liberal writer, Diana Makkled, sees Obama’s success as a sign that America is still the place where dreams are realized. That a man with a Muslim-African background might become president “could only take place in the US, not in the banana republics we live in,” she writes.
Arabs welcomed and widely commented on Colin Powell’s assertion that, even if Obama were a Muslim, it should not be held against him.
Some columnists have also noted Obama’s close ties to a number of Palestinian radicals, including Rashid Khalidi and the late Edward Said, as signs that the senator would change US Middle East policy in the Arabs’ favor. Strengthening that impression was an interview the Rev. Jessie Jackson granted to several Arab media outlets, including Al-Jazeera and the popular Internet newspaper Elaph, in which he promised an end to the United States’ allegedly pro-Israel policy.
Not all Arab commentators are struck by Obamania, however. His flip-flops on issues – including the future of Jerusalem, withdrawal from Iraq and dealing with the Iranian nuclear threat – have prompted some to counsel caution.
Tareq Al-Houmayed, editor of the daily Asharq Alawsat, warns Arabs not to expect too much: “Every American president would be governed by American interests. Obama’s understanding of politics is not important here.”
Abdulrahman al-Rashed, a Saudi commentator, also notes that no president can radically alter US global policies. He advises Arabs to neither have exaggerated hopes nor be dispirited when Obama tells the Israelis “more than they hoped to hear” to win Jewish support.
Amir Taheri’s latest book, “The Persian Night: Iran Under the Khomeinist Revolution,” is due out next month.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10282008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama__the_arabs_135632.htm?page=0
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Palin is a joke. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. See what I mean? Get it? Palin is a joke. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Get it? Palin is a joke. HA HA HA HA HA. I can’t stand it. My sides are aching. Haven’t had a good hoot like that since I heard McCain announce his no-show beingness for Presidential candidate. Then there was the time he . . .
Posted by: MissClarity | November 1, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Mark Barnett….we rather give to the poor than to the corporate bosses.
No, the truth to us doesn’t hurt. But your truth is just like Sarah Drag Palin’s pig lipstick. You might not even know what fact is, just like your Sarah Whack Job Palin for vp.
Take some aspirin tonight and call the Head Dr. tomorrow morning. You have mental big time issues.
Posted by: khatts98178 | November 1, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
Update America:
Socialism is a tricky thing to define since many types exist. Some modern countries that are called socialist really refer to a few aspects of the country. For instance, most government-controlled health care is labeled “social medicine.” There are many countries with such health care plans, which are paid for usually through higher taxation of the people. Such countries don’t necessarily eliminate or dismantle class structure, or advocate rebellion toward the ruling class.
Update America:
A look at Obama’s National Healthcare Program that was tried in the United States and around the world.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4972
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/issues/healthcare/socialized.html
Obama will use you, the Middle Class taxpayer, to test his misguided thoughts on how to run the United States. I hate to tell you Obama supporter’s that all his thoughts have been proven NOT to work to benefit the people.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
I believe “Update America” is Natasha in drag :)
Posted by: jdb | November 1, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
To: GWB
Nice chart, now go look up CHARITABLE GIVING, Republican vs Democrate… You will find the RED States FAR FAR FAR out give the BLUES and in addition, look up what States are in the BLACK still, have surplus’s… DEM STATES, and don’t say CA, it’s heavy Dem, are ALL BROKE! Republican controlled States are NOT in crisis, give away, welfare Dem controlled States are…
Sorry, your chart just got pwnd…
REPUBLICAN GIVE MORE, hummmm, maybe we aren’t so mean after all…
***If you want to give away your own PB&J sandwich to a friend of yours who forgot their lunch, that’s cool. It’s called charity. It’s the conservative thing to do.
If the teacher comes and takes half of your sandwich and decides to give it, agaist your will, to the bullies that tease you endlessly about your dumbo ears, that’s socialism.
You don’t want me to give my money to others that I think need it. You want to tax me and “spread the wealth” to those people from whom you can bribe a vote.
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Update America: One more time for the liberals. Obama Voted For Big Oil To Keep Their Profits.
Governor Sarah Palin does not practice socialism by sharing tax money with the Alaskan taxpayers from wind-fall big oil profits. Obama’s National Healthcare Program is socialism because it is derived from collecting taxes from taxpayers and not wind-fall profits. Governor Sarah Palin recognizes that big oil makes money by overcharging the taxpayers and Governor Sarah Palin makes big oil pay.
Obama on the other hand killed legislation to increase big oils tax. Governor Sarah Palin makes big oil pay for their overcharging the taxpayers.
Too bad you do not live in Alaska:
You Betcha Palin Is A Tough Governor: This is Governor Palin Way Of Spending Oil Tax Money.
During the oil crisis of 2007, Palin fought to raise taxes on oil companies. As fuel prices skyrocketed in the lower 49 states, Palin complained that her state wasn’t getting its share of the wind-fall.
Palin successfully pushed for a law that raised taxes on oil profits. The increase amounted to an estimated $1.6-billion annually more for the state: double the amount it received the year before. Then she gave the money to the people.
It’s true: we’ve already checked her claim that she sent “a large share of that revenue directly back to the people of Alaska.”
On Aug. 7, 2008, the Alaska Legislature approved a measure she promoted. The administration of Alaska’s governor Sarah Palin now gives $1,200 to every single Alaskan. This comes to about $741-million for state residents. In addition, each resident will receive an annual dividend of $2,000 from an oil-wealth savings account. That comes to about $741-million for state residents
For a family of 7 (Gov. Palin has 7 members in her family) that means an additional $22,400.00 in income sent from the state of Alaska. WOW, who needs a job! Back to the trailer, Billy Bob!
Sarah Palin makes big oil pay for their overcharging the taxpayers. In Alaska wind-fall profits equals win-win for the taxpayers.
Obama killed legislation to tax big oil. The Obama supporters suffer from so many misconceptions from Obama.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.
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Update America:
Rhetoric: Industry says it is investing heavily in renewable and alternative technology. The American Petroleum Institute (API) has claimed that, “In North America over the last five years, the oil and gas industry has invested almost $100 billion on renewable, alternative and advanced emerging energy technologies.” (API letter to Members of Congress, 3/30/07)
Reality: Industry is hardly investing in renewable, non-petroleum energy. When the industry breaks down investment in what it terms “renewable, alternative and advanced emerging energy technologies,” very little of the $98 billion spent on these technologies was invested in renewable or alternative energy sources. Only $1.2 billion of the $98 billion advertised by the industry as investment in renewables and alternatives was actually spent on renewable sources of energy between 2000 and 2005. This funding was not spent on renewable fuels but on production of electricity from wind, solar, geothermal, and landfill gas. (American Petroleum Institute, “Facts on Fuel”)
The oil and gas industry has invested heavily ($86 billion over five years) in refining heavier sources of petroleum, including tar and oil sands and oil shale, and on turning waste and residue hydrocarbons into usable products. The industry has also modestly invested ($11 billion) in combined heat and power and vehicle fuel efficiency technologies.
The amount invested in the next generation of energy is a tiny fraction of investment and an even smaller fraction of industry profits that could be invested in clean technologies.
When asked to provide their companies’ investment in non-petroleum energy supply and production during a November 2005 hearing, the CEOs of the five largest oil companies reported little investment. Exxon reported investing a “negligible amount” in non-petroleum energy, and ChevronTexaco included coal and natural gas investments in its tally. (ExxonMobil and ChevronTexaco responses to Questions from the Record of Joint Committee Hearing regarding Energy Pricing and Profits, Senate Energy and Natural Resources and Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committees, 11/9/05)
Both public and private investment in energy R&D have declined. Investment in energy research and development has been steadily falling despite rising geopolitical, environmental, and economic risks of dependence on oil. Investments in energy R&D by U.S. companies fell by 50 percent between 1991 and 2003. Total private sector energy R&D is less than the R&D budgets of individual biotech companies. Since the mid-1990s, both public and private sector R&D spending has been stagnant for renewable energy and energy efficiency. (Daniel M. Kammen and Gregory F. Nemet, “Reversing the Incredible Shrinking Energy R&D Budget,” Issues in Science and Technology, Fall 2005)
Big Oil is an “obstacle” to alternative fuel stations. Big oil companies are using their market power to discourage service stations from stocking or offering E85 fuel and to create rules that make it difficult for consumers to compare prices for, fill up with, or purchase E85. Exxon Mobil and BP require their franchised stations to buy fuel exclusively from them, and neither company offers E85. Station owners must apply for exceptions to purchase E85. ChevronTexaco and ConocoPhillips require an E85 pump to be set away from the other pumps and do not allow stations to list E85 on their primary sign listing fuel prices. Chevron recommends that stations install new storage tanks and pumps worth about $200,000 at their own expense to offer E85, rather than using existing tanks and pumps. BP will not allow its franchised stations to offer payment by credit card at E85 pumps. (Wall Street Journal, 4/2/07)
Big Oil Tells Alternative Technology To Go to Hell While Reaping Big Profits for Share Holders and Obama Agrees. Governor Sarah Palin’s big oil tax in Alaska was created by wind-fall PROFITS of big oil. The taxpayers in Alaska make big oil pay for their lack of concern for alternative technologies and overcharging the taxpayers. The Alaskan tax on big oil wind-fall profits is a fine (cash paid as punishment) for profiteering.
Obama Voted Against Taxing Big Oil.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
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“jdb” keeps ignoring his own MASTERS words
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Naw.. I pretty much listen to my wife.. it’s fools like you we tend to ignore :)
If you want to pay more in taxes so the wealthy can pay less, vote McCain!
Posted by: jdb | November 1, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Update America:
The Associated Press watched it, and surprisingly, the 30-minute infomercial also failed to impress them:
“Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was LESS THAN UPFRONT in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama’s assertion that “I’ve offered spending cuts above and beyond” the expense of his promises is accepted ONLY by his partisans. His vow to save money by “eliminating programs that don’t work” masks his FAILURE throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are – beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.”
Calvin Woodward reports that Obama misled viewers on at least five key points in his 30-minute final argument:
–Health care costs – Obama claimed his plan would lower costs by $2500 per year per family, but it DOES NOT. In fact, Obama can’t point to any particular cost reductions. He plans to spend $50 billion over five years on modernization and chronic-disease prevention and presumes that this will lower costs in the future, but in the meantime it RAISES COSTS at least in the short run on everyone (the $50 billion doesn’t come out of thin air).
–The Pay-Go of his plans – NO, he hasn’t demonstrated that he’s found the revenue for his spending, despite his claims last night. Non-partisan analysts believe that his spending programs will ADD at least $428 billion to the DEFICIT in his first term, and that’s if you accept his non-specific pledge to cut spending in other areas.
–Tax cuts for working class families – Before the commercial aired, he had already begun BACKING AWAY from that idea because of the financial crisis, although Obama didn’t acknowledge it in the ad.
–The “right” to affordable health care – Obama DOES NOT guarantee coverage in any of his plans, at least not for adults.
–Getting out of Iraq – Obama noted that the US spends $10 billion a month in Iraq and talked again about “bringing that war to a close” — but he’s BACKED AWAY from his previous pledges to get out on a strict 16-month timetable, which is as fast as the remaining units can be properly withdrawn.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
REPUBLICAN GIVE MORE
Posted by: Mark Garnett | Nov 1, 2008 1:22:59 AM
So they can pay less taxes! Funny how they have no problem spending it, but sure don’t like paying for it.
And yet, the majority of taxpayers, republicans and democrats alike, would pay less taxes under Obamas plan than McCains. Talk about hypocrites!
Obama in 2008!
Posted by: Mack | November 1, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
To: “jbd”
Thanks for that choice, I’ll go McCain while I still have a vote and a voice, Obama is very good at silencing critics, talk radio and firness doctrine, kicking papers off his plane that did not endorse him, using GOV computers and State workers illeagily to investigate Joe the Plumber, investigating the Miami Newwoman’s husband… Sounds kinda scary, like maybe “thug” tactics of Chicago, the NURDER capital of the USA, Obama really SOLVED the tough issues there, didn’t he? More have dies in Chicago this year then in Iraq, wow, maybe we SHOULD PULL OUT OF CHICAGO, the war is LOST, we are losing too many… Typical far left liberals, cry about wars and continue to ignore people and thugs in thier own neighborhoods. But if TAXES are all you care about, go for it… and please “jbd”, go ask a poor man for a great paying job, I’n sure he can hire you… The class warfare only works on morons who want others to provide for them every need, every want… GO FRICKING EARN IT FOOL, a poor man HIRES NOONE, A RICH MAN DOES, so if, as with Carter you want 25% unemployment, then please keep up this hate the rich theme. The evil rich are the ones who sign your paycheck, unless your on the dole.
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
The term Progressive does not exist. IT is LIBERAL far left leaning socialist communist sympthetic individual any other evaluation or definition does not apply. You can call a traitor a alliegence misdirected and confused imature individual but they are still Benedict Arnold. Let Obama have it and when the nation is again attacked I only hope his supporters who decrided Bush call for his impeachment with the same vigor……..gut the patiot act and regardless of what they say if you make fifty grand a year his version will increase your taxes as he will not continue the Bush tax refunds or temporary tax breaks……..so when you pay more for your gas, pay more for your taxes and give more to Countries that hate us than Bush ever did remember the only reason the terrorist attacked us was because we did not use enough “diplomacy” and Europe smack talked the USA and Bush before 9-11 hell the day after some of their pundits said we deserved it. so there was NO LOST LOVE, they have always smack talked the USA it would be called Jealosy and snootiness, why the US became a country maybe? Vote for Obama is a vote for Jimmy Carter II, he talks the talk never walks the walk and what you get is attacked, hated, belittled and pay for it. Gee I hope he really gets all those jobs back by giving “tax breaks” to the businesses he intends on increasing their taxes to pretty much negate any break on……..That is genius business savy…….lmao
Posted by: gijoe | November 1, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
If Warren Buffet (a rich liberal) thinks he pays too little in taxes compared to his secretary why doesnt he pay her more? Or just give to the US Goverment what he thinks is the appropriate tax rate I am sure they will take it. Personally he is a hypocrite, think you dont pay enough, put up or shut the hell up……..I dont believe it for a minute and Ted Kennedy doesnt have any offshore accounts either and the Easter Bunny is selling the Brooklyn Bridge, liberals break out your wallets…Personally no goverment should ever take more than one third of your money earned in taxes ever under any circumstance. So if Warren Buffet pays only 17 percent and he is not using any tax shelters he is hiding it somehow, like reinvestment?
Flat tax would be wonderful with Zero deductions and Zero reinvestment deductions, get rid of 90% of the IRS and no charity no deductions just pay on what comes in total if you like. Start with Hollywood, oh yea they are all liberals and this bank bailout just sent them a billion dollars, Im sure they needed it to keep those jobs here…and they are all liberals. Like rich liberals give a rats ass about tax payers anyway.
Posted by: gijoe | November 1, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
TO: “mack”
No, we GIVE FREELY to the CAUSES we think deserve it, like our CHURCHS and to Boy Scouts and homeless shelters and funds for injured and killed VETERANS.
The difference is CHOICE, I get to make MY OWN CHOICE where to give and whom to support, not let Obama take and make HIS choices whom he thinks “deserves” MY MONEY, it’s NOT HIS OR YOURS Mack,it’s MINE, for my family, my kids collage, my sons future. Go out, as I have, AND EARN YOUR OWN, then give to Obama ALL YOU WANT!!! If you support his goals, then YOU pay for the tax cuts TO PEOPLE THAT DO NOT WORK AND ALREADY DO NOT PAY FEDERAL INCOME TAX!
It’s welfare, not tax cut when you pay someone who DOES NOT PAY ANYTHING NOW, it’s a check to them for no work, no effort, it’s a HAND OUT, not a HAND UP!
Do this for me Mack, walk next door, knock on your neighbors door, when he opens it, walk in a TAKE his wallet, take HIS money, part of his food, maybe his dog, because he is RICH and you have a RIGHT to his class, his life style… Then get back to me… Most where I live STILl can have our guns, our God and “cling to them, with bitterness” as your MASTER has said we do when he thought no one was listening…
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Molly,
I am with you!
Vote smart: McCain/Palin
We can trust them!
Posted by: jiaenglish | November 1, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
McCain 270+, Obama max 268
Obama wins popular vote, but loses EV by ver close margin…
PA, VA, FL, OH, NC go McCain
Blacks riot in streets…
Pundits say RACISIM…
********* Funny thing, and please Liberals and really moderate Democrates, think of this:
Mccain loses, radical Christians riot, angry white men riot…
Wouldn’t happen, never has… so WHO ARE THE REAL HATERS, THE REAL RADICALS?
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
I’m screen shotting that one I posted above… it’s dead right… And on Wednesday, I’ll come back here and say I told you so, cause radical far left MSM will induce racial hatred, where there is none… I do not HATE Obama because he is black, who the hell cares in this day and age, I HATE HIS SOCILIST AND RADICAL PLANS FOR AMERICA!
Cutting the Military 25%
Taxes & 1 TRILLION in NEW SPENDING PROGRAMS
A citizens milita ??? as well funbded as our military ??? what is this for ???
Fairness doctrine to quelch free speech
Radical foreign policy
SEE RACE IS NOT WHY I VOTE McCAIN, I have more against Obama if you care…
Posted by: Mark Garnett | November 1, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Update America:
–Tax cuts for working class families – Before the commercial aired, Obama had already begun BACKING AWAY from that idea because of the financial crisis, although Obama didn’t acknowledge it in the the 30-minute infomercial. More Obama flip flops.
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
Update America:
Even with Buffet, Powell and Volcker, Obama still does NOT KNOW what to do about the financial crisis. Obama is the greatest FLIP FLOP in political history.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Update America:
Even with Buffet, Powell and Volcker, Obama still does NOT KNOW what to do about the financial crisis. Obama is the greatest FLIP FLOP in political history.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.
Posted by: Update America | November 1, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
the law of the land should be that anyone who complains too much about their tax rates gets a free one way ticket care of uncle sam to haiti or nicaragua or somewhere nice with low taxes.
i am sick of people who want to live in this great country , but dont want to pony up to keep it running smoothly.
if you dont like the tax laws here then LEAVE !!!AND DONT COME BACK!!!AND TAKE YOUR FAT SPOILED BRATS WITH YOU!!!
that one addendum to the tax code laws would solve a lot of americas problems…(and the place would stink lots less as an added bonus)
Posted by: bah | November 1, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
I think the PUMA’s will have a nice surprise for Obambi on Tuesday. And if you think the Polls are accurate, why was Obambi stumping in Iowa when the Polls say he has in the bag?
Posted by: JackTar | November 1, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
you mean the pumas ,all 35 of them?
wow a powerful sector if ever there was one! NOT!
pumas should be beaten by their democratic husbands until they arent so stupid anymore.
Posted by: bah | November 1, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
If people should not vote for Sarah because she is a woman then blacks should not vote for Obama because he is black – but they will. I guess – I’m not very politically correct but who wants to face the truth. By the way, I’m voting for Sarah because she is a conservative!
Posted by: vpritt | November 1, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
and Mark Garnett, you are an ignorant selfish windbag ,like most republicans.
too bad mark,your taxes will be taken whether you like it or not. thats the american way. like it or leave it son.
just move to haiti ,you wont like where america is going…and youre in the minority and wont have much to say about it so just start packing now or shut up and get with the liberal program.
Posted by: bah | November 1, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
vpritt , dont lie. youre voting for palin because youre a moron.
how can you say youll vote for someone that EVERY RATIONAL PERSON ON THE PLANET ,INCLUDING ALMOST ALL REPUBLICAN SAY IS NOT NEARLY READY TO BE VICE PRESIDENT, MUCH LESS PRESIDENT.
thats the problem with too many american voters , they vote for serious political offices like they were voting for prom king/queen or high school president . annoyingly naive and disgustingly moronic,no wonder the rest of the world just gawks at us…unbelievable!!!
Posted by: bah | November 1, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
bah
again you Obamabots are acusing peopel that dont support Obama of what you all are doign its beyond low and I guess tactics like that are run of the mill in Chicago but it shouldnt be for washington
Posted by: JG | November 1, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
wow this is ALL (OK Mostly) really stupid.
Glad I participated!
BTW: the “Reagan Revolution” is OVER!
Posted by: educated Hippie | November 1, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
When it comes to the economy, when it comes to the central issue of this election, the plain truth is John McCain has stood with President Bush every step of the way,” Obama said.
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Mr. 0bama will use Class Struggle to correct it:
The ideal of sharing wealth, equalizing class divide has been so powerful, sweeping half a Europe and Asia and South America in the first half of the 20th Century.
The ideals of Marxism are not necessarily wrong; in fact, they are extremely appealing, and the history of the 20th century is a proof.
Yet, none of the practitioners have achieved their noble causes, each has left millions dead, in smaller places like Vietnam and Cambodia, and 10s of millions in larger states. The only major survivor of this practice is China, who has adopted Capitalism by all means except some certain rights that we enjoy here as granted – which is a different topic.
Socialism, a precursor of Communism, has never had a chance being practiced in the US. Few really know what socialism is, but what 0bama wants to do IS socialism.
0bama is masterfully adopting the classic class divide of Karl Marx’s, playing one class – the 95% of the poor – against another class – the rich, the 5% – to achieve his ambition.
It is not progressive taxation that makes 0bama a socialist.
It is the class struggle that makes 0bama a Socialist!
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Molly, your a fool, their own party doesn’t trust them, how can we.
Posted by: JR | Oct 31, 2008 10:59:31 PM
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That’s why We who do not belong to their party support him, McCain.
Posted by: factcheck | November 1, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
DO
if Obama cant give any money to his cousin making a dollar a day in Kenya and has an aunt living illegally in MA hes not an example of his own fairness is he? this illusion will come to an end on Tuesday!
Posted by: JG | November 1, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
I love Obama and Biden. Can’t wait to get them elected!
Posted by: jn | November 1, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
JG, shut your ignorant trap. move on to haiti or get ready for april 15th you moron.
btw, youll wake up on wednesday to a black man leading a bunch or rabid liberals telling you and the rest of the racists what to do/how much of your hard earned you can keep for at least 4 years ,and probably many more.
get used to the idea and enjoy…
Posted by: bah | November 1, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
i love listening to republicans whine and howl at even the remotest hint that they just MIGHT have to pay up their fair share for once…
CRY CRY CRY ME A RIVER!!WAHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH!!
republicans sound like little kids who have been used to getting everything their way and the first time they dont actually get their selfish way then its…
WAHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHH!!
CMON CRY MORE… MAKE ME FEEL GOOD INSIDE!!! YOU CANNOT BELIEVE HOW GOOD IT MAKES ME FEEL TO SEE YOU WHINING AND CRYING!!!! WAHHH WAHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH
I DONT WANT TO PAY ANY TAXES MOMMY!! WAHHHHHH WAHHHHHH MOMMY MAKE THE MEAN OLD DEMOCRATS STOP PICKING ON ME!! WAHH WAHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH!!!
lmao!!
Posted by: bah | November 1, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
SOMEONE CALL THE WAHMBULANCE!! REPUBLICAN POUTING AND WHINING IS GROWING TO AN UNRELENTING IRRITATING DRONE!!!
WAHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH!!
Posted by: bah | November 1, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
Palin on Alaska:
Usually yes, such a red state up here. It’s a no-brainer that the “R” is going to take the cake up here. But this is a little bit different situation now with Obama’s message resonating, even with Alaskans. That being change, a desire for no embracing of the status quo and politics as usual. But something different, something dynamic and charismatic. That does resonate well, that message of Obama’s.
Governor Palin – August 1, 2008
NBC Interview with Larry Kudlow
Posted by: Sarah | November 1, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Warren Buffett, the third-richest man in the world, has criticised the US tax system for allowing him to pay a lower rate than his secretary and his cleaner.
“If you’re in the luckiest 1 per cent of humanity, you owe it to the rest of humanity to think about the other 99 per cent.”
Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation.
The comments are among the most signficant yet in a debate raging on both sides about growing income inequality and how the super-wealthy are taxed.
(Time UK)
Posted by: Paige | November 1, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
It’s so funny to listen to everyone here quote this and quote that. No one seems to be putting forth their own ideas. Instead you all just spit back what different media outlets feed to you. Numbers, talking points, phrases taken out of context, snippets of reality that don’t mean anything. Unless you stop for 2 seconds and actually listen, listen to each other, consider the facts, you’re gonna miss out. You’re going to lose yourself in a wash of someone else’s manipulated history. You’re going to accept what someone else on the news, or someone in a magazine, or someone on the radio tells you is true. Everyone needs to take the responsibility to educate themselves on both sides of the issue. Don’t read a story about a candidate by the candidates friends. Read what the enemies say too. Try to find as many different sources of information as you can. The internet is full of different perspectives on every issue. Only after absorbing the view points of multiple sources can you make a truly valid judgment. Only after distilling the facts from the raw sewage that is our mainstream media can you actually see the truth. Don’t trust one source. Listen, watch, and read everything, and then make your decision on the 4th. Otherwise you’re letting someone else tell you how to think, and that’s as un-American as you can get.
Posted by: Stop and think | November 1, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
Obama and Hillary believe in the same thing…
Posted by: akskimo | Oct 31, 2008 11:06:51 PM
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Have you been in the hole in the past year to understand the difference?
0bama lacks fundamental judgment on key issues, as he has exhibited in the past year.
He had no clue about the crisis of the economy that already was at the brink of collapse one year ago – he pushed for Bush’s money giveaways and ridiculed Hillary Clinton’s plan to use that $300 billion to target banking, mortgage and financing sectors, which was the correct diagnose and is still today.
0bama promised to vote against FISA when he needed your votes in the primaries. He immediately breaks his promise when he does not need your votes in the party, voting for giving Bush the power to spy on you, taking your constitution right away. Senator Clinton voted against the FISA bill, AS PROMISED, so did John McCain.
0bama promised to use public financing before he knew he was going to get so much un-identified money. He immediately breaks his promise when he faces a critical decision. John McCain kept his promise.
Mr. 0bama lied to you that he was against giving the big oil tax credits, while his opponents were for giving the tax credits. In reality, he voted for the Bush/Cheney bill giving the largest tax credits to the big oils in history. McCain voted against his party line, against to give the big oil tax credit.
Mr. 0bama has been race-baiting, implying his opponents to be racists, including his running-mate Joe Biden on the very day that he announced his candidacy, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, geraldine Ferraro, and McCain. He sold out his fellow democrats, equating the Clinton administration to be the same as that of Bush’s.
0bama is simply not to be trusted.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am
Stop and Think – Nice lecture. I read and research more than you can ever imagine and I have already cast my vote for
Obama/Biden.
Posted by: Paige | November 1, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am
Mr. 0bama lied to you that he was against giving the big oil tax credits, while his opponents were for giving the tax credits. In reality, he voted for the Bush/Cheney bill giving the largest tax credits to the big oils in history. McCain voted against his party line, against to give the big oil tax credit.
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No he didn’t. He said said publicly he “reluctantly” voted for the bill, but the bill also contained tax credits for renewable/green energy – something McCain has voted AGAINST over 20 times.
Posted by: Paige | November 1, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am
The Clintons and Ferraro have endorsed Obama.
Posted by: Paige | November 1, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
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He had no clue about the crisis of the economy that already was at the brink of collapse one year ago
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In 2007, Obama wrote a letter expressing his concern, and even suggested creating a private (non-government) panel to find a solution to prevent what happened.
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Senator Clinton voted against the FISA bill, AS PROMISED, so did John McCain.
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Nope, McCain didn’t bother showing up.. like most of his time in Congress this session where he has missed over 64% of the votes.. more than any other Senator.
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he voted for the Bush/Cheney bill giving the largest tax credits to the big oils in history.
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Those tax credits were for finding ways to use alternative forms of energy.. that is why McCain opposed it.
You really need to do better.. your lies and misinformation just make you look ignorant and does you no good.
http://obama.senate.gov/press/070322-obama_urges_ber/
Posted by: BoogieMan | November 1, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am
weather wrong or right
the bulk of women voters on nov 4 will vote for McCain/Palin…
black voters will vote for Obama.
this election has nothing to do with politics.
it has everything to do with the opportunity for women of this country to make history.
bye bye Obama
Posted by: Omomma | November 1, 2008, 5:37 am 5:37 am
Joe is not muzzled – I think he is the most loved candidate out of the four of them. And if no one made a mask of him to sell as a Halloween gimmick, it is because he is “Sweet and saintly”…WE LOVE YOU JOE!!!
Posted by: Melanie | November 1, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
Obama and Biden look like punks. They let their pal Jay Z call the woman running for the ice presidency of the US a bitch. Obama has associates, if not pals, who are punks, Rev. Wright, the Kahlidi guy, the rich punk Bill Ayers.
We see that although Obama talks a good game, his own family (brother living on a dollar a month and Aunt living in poverty) are not being cared for.
It is clear that Obama thinks one should not have personal responsibility, but that the government should be responsible for everyone.
Posted by: today | November 1, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am
You may label me “just another dumb blonde” but PLEASE someone attempt at least to explain to me how McCain/Palin are paying the debt of this ongoing war and not raise any taxes.
Posted by: Yankee | November 1, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
I don’t know any former Clinton voters (male or female) who would vote for the McCain/Palen ticket. They are against everything ever Hillary stood for. I, for one, want full control over my mind, body and spirit. I don’t mind paying my fair share of taxes,having said that, Fair share!!! I see no reason why the top 5% should not be paying their fair share. no more/no less. Just fair!!!
Obama/Biden
Posted by: jen | November 1, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am
Soon Will be no more, I joe the plunber. But We the People/ America will be a big community organization, May be not exactly as the Jim Jones comunity. This will be Obama’s community organization of America.
Posted by: Liam | November 1, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
I cannot imagine any true smart american will vote republican again after what they have done to our country. Don’t reward them for their mistakes, Gees look around you and see what they have done.
And my god do you have the slightest idea how it would be like if Palen become our next resident. I mean I cannot sleep at night when I think of that.
Obama/Biden is our only hope.
Posted by: FG | November 1, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
I am tired of all you people who blame republicans for the economy.How many of you go out of your way to buy american made products I am saddened everytime I pass someone on the road with an american flag on there forigen made vehicle You all claim to care about you american brothers and sisters but not when it comes to your pocket!!!How many of you buy things you can not afford instead of doing what millions have done for years and sacriffice until you can.Buy American The job you save may be your own!!!!
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
You Know what I find funny Mccain with Joe the Plumber in Ohio, Mccain saying Joe has done great things for America. and that Joe is Mccains role model lolohaha, What great things? Joe is a fraud no license owes back taxes owes back child support taking Mccain for everything he can get and this is Mccains Role Model WHAT A JOKE MCCAIN HAS BECOME!While Obama has Clinton.Gore,and Many republicans supporting him, Mccain has Fake Joe the Plumber his role model, and people beating the crap out of themselves carving their face. Mccain will go down in History as running the most Comical Dishonarable lying Sleazy Campaign!! Mccain you my friend have become the laughing stock of Politics!!!!
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
REDDOG
Because that is the way BUSHY has made it be the last 8 years, I belive it was Bushy who said after 911 GO SHOPPING Thats Republicans way BORROW AND SPEND BORROW AND SPEND That is why China pretty much owns us!! And why is there no things made in America? because Bushy has let Free trade run wild Just like the Banks run wild See having no Commonsense Regulation Keeping Goverment out of everything like the right likes to do Only brings Trouble!! Thank your Far to the Right Idealogy No regulation no Goverment FOR THIS MESS!
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
I recommend everyone see the movie “W” before you vote on Tuesday.
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
After 9/11, Bush said, “Go shopping!” That was his idea of being patriotic! He never brought the whole country together to make ANY sacrifices, except for those in military service.
I have heard Obama and Biden say that the next president needs to unite the American people to ALL pull together in order to dig us out of our problems.
This is one BIG thing I like about the Obama/Biden campaign – it is inclusive and inspiring people for a common cause. I’m a big girl. I know that nobody is going to be able to keep the campaign promises 100% while we are now in this financial hole, and I believe that unlike the Republicans, who have spent money like drunken sailors, on credit, that the democrats at least want to make pay-as-you-go decisions.
Now if you right-wingers don’t like paying as you go, then I’m beginning to see just WHO got this country in such a mess because of fiscal irresponsiblity!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 1, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Angie,
You theroies are way off base yes he said go out and spend I know he put a gun to your head and said buy crap from china,japan,korea etc…I still dont see how you blame the republicans for the regulation issues that caused the sub prime mortgage problem when the democrats blocked attemts to reel fannie and freddie in.Democrats also felt we needed to make sure eveyone had a house even if they could not afford it they pushed banks to loan people with less income the money causing a huge demand on the supply of homes which caused the rise in price which has now burst because people could not afford these homes they were credit risks for a reason!!!
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
The Republicans and Their no Regulation is like letting a Two year old stay home by themselves, or like Letting someone go into a Jewerly store with noone working there and the cases all unlocked, and think about this before you vote who is Mr Deregulator MR JOHN SYDNEY MCCAIN!
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
I recommend everyone see the movie “W” before you vote on Tuesday.
Posted by: samurai | Nov 1, 2008 10:17:42 AM
I suggest eveyone watch the video of 9/11 again and ask yourself this question are we safer today than we were 8 years ago???
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Watch Farrakhans rally for Obama.
It is SCARY.
And you would want Obama for President.
Run from this guy.
Posted by: al from nj | November 1, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
reddog0216: The answer is no.
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
The Republicans and Their no Regulation is like letting a Two year old stay home by themselves, or like Letting someone go into a Jewerly store with noone working there and the cases all unlocked, and think about this before you vote who is Mr Deregulator MR JOHN SYDNEY MCCAIN!
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 10:22:30 AM
Proper regulation Not no regulation I know we need to be saved from ourselves angie We as adults can not look inward and control ourselves Just what I want goverment telling me how and what I can do OOOOH I cant wait
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
McCain/Palin is what’s really scary. A hot-headed old geezer who could croak in office and be replaced by a dingbat.
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
reddog0216: The answer is no.
Posted by: samurai | Nov 1, 2008 10:24:50 AM
I am sorry how many times have we been attacked on american soil since then I know The media does not show the great progress we have made in Iraq Nor would your canidate want you to know that.
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
REDDOG
Did you not see The Alan Green span When he Testified in front of Congress? He pretty much Admitted It was Far Right Idealogy of no Regulation That got us into the Housing mess, He also admitted that the Sub-Prime Mortgages is not the only reason for the Economic mess. now I am going to be Fair and say that It was not Just the republicans fault a big part yes, But people Buying houses they Knew they could not Afford
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
reddog0216: What makes you so sure that if we never invaded Iraq we still wouldn’t have been attacked again on American soil? You’re just assuming that to be the case and there is just no way to know for sure.
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
REDDDOG
Do you Ever listen to Obama? He has said Its not about having a Big Or Small Goverment, Its about having a better Goverment. Obama is not gonna create Big goverment like you Republicans have benn claiming for Decades about Democrats, Its About having a better Goverment one that works for all of us dont you think we the people deserve that!
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Yes I saw greenspan and that is not what he said maybe how you interpeted it The sub prime mortgage was a domino that set it in motion.These loans were pushed by the clinton adiminstration he was the one who made major changes to The CRA and That gave fannie and freddie huge leverage to push these loans on the banks.
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
REDDOG
Iraq had nothing to do with 911 That has been Proven!
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
reddog0216: What makes you so sure that if we never invaded Iraq we still wouldn’t have been attacked again on American soil? You’re just assuming that to be the case and there is just no way to know for sure.
Posted by: samurai | Nov 1, 2008 10:31:20 AM
Hey when you were a kid did you ever get into a fight??
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
REDDDOG
Do you Ever listen to Obama? He has said Its not about having a Big Or Small Goverment, Its about having a better Goverment. Obama is not gonna create Big goverment like you Republicans have benn claiming for Decades about Democrats, Its About having a better Goverment one that works for all of us dont you think we the people deserve that!
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 10:32:58 AM
Yes angie I have watched him and yes he wants more goverment Just in his programs alone if he expands programs that means goverment involment that means bigger goverment
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Reddog
Yes clinton did Push for it, But there was Regulation and Rules for these Mortgages, Bush and Gang let the Lobbyisit Kill the Regulation. there was noone there Stoppping these Banks for giving out loans, and the Banks didnt care if people couldnt pay Because they sold their Mortgages to other Banks the Banks and Spectulators got Greedy because there was noone there to stop it!
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
REDDOG
Iraq had nothing to do with 911 That has been Proven!
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 10:34:40 AM
I know that has been proven but it also has become the central front of the war on terror bin laden has pushed his opperatives to go in there and fight and we also have liberated a country from a horrible dictaor as well which we will reap rewards for years to come
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
I distinctly remember John McCain saying, shortly after he had picked Palin (I can see Russia from my house!) for VP, that he had consulted her several times before that point on matters of foreign policy!
Either he was lying, or else he was saying something REALLY SCARY!!!!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 1, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Reddog
Yes clinton did Push for it, But there was Regulation and Rules for these Mortgages, Bush and Gang let the Lobbyisit Kill the Regulation. there was noone there Stoppping these Banks for giving out loans, and the Banks didnt care if people couldnt pay Because they sold their Mortgages to other Banks the Banks and Spectulators got Greedy because there was noone there to stop it!
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 10:38:30 AM
Thats not true where the republicans were involved it was allowing them to package these loans of unknown value as securities
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Reedog
Where is it Obama said his Programs will cause Big goverment? give me one Example I do Belive he Said he was going to go through the Federal Budget and kill the spending on things and Programs that dont work or we dont need that does not sound like big goverment to me that sounds like Balancing Goverment I mean we need some Goverment
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for “after this, therefore because of this”, is a logical fallacy which states, “Since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one.”
1. We invaded Iraq
2. No Attacks on American soil since
2 follows 1, therefor it is because of 1 (???)
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Angie people got greedy mostly regular people though they saw the homes push upwards in price and thought I can buy this have this beautiful home and its value will only go up
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Angie if he is going to make available more goverment sponsered programs it would only seem to reason that it would cause bigger goverment
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Reedog
I do Enjoy Blogging with you And I respect your Views, I dont think Obama is for Big goverment or is a Socialist as Mccain wants to make him be, Reedog the way I look at it whoever shall win I will support them and only hope our country and our world will be a better place for our Future Generation!
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
BTW there also were no attacks on American soil between 9/11/2001 and 3/19/2003, the date we invaded Iraq.
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
REDDOG
Name one of his programs that require big goverment? Give me an Example
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Reddog,
Why don’t you ask the Iraqi’s who have survived so far just how well they like the “honor” of having their lives totally destroyed by tne US coming in and making their country, (ONE country in the middle east that had NO ties to Al Qaeda), the front for the war on terror?
Thousands of these Iraqis have been “liberated” from their lives!!
And Bush told US at home that it was patriotic to go shopping!!! No sacrifices here for the war on terror unless you are in the military!!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 1, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Angie he has also said he has no set timeframe to try to balance the budget as McCain has done.He wants to increase our deficit larger than McCain does now I know people are going to say thats not true because when you figure McCains tax cuts in McCains budget seems higher but time has proven that if you cut taxes Revenue grows
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Reedog
I do Enjoy Blogging with you And I respect your Views, I dont think Obama is for Big goverment or is a Socialist as Mccain wants to make him be, Reedog the way I look at it whoever shall win I will support them and only hope our country and our world will be a better place for our Future Generation!
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 10:44:44 AM
I feel the same angie I have nothing against Obama I will survive regardless of who gets in I just disagree with his ideas they do not add up and I can promise if he gets elected he will raise taxes on people making alot less thhan what he is claiming
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
REDDOG
How is Mccain going to Balance the Budget with Two Wars,A bailout etc I dont know how many Independent studies out there have said Mccain will not Balance the Budget in 4 years its Impossible But Mccain wants to continue only giving Tax cuts to the wealthy Its time we have a Fair tax code FAIR FAIR
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Angie ,
Healthcare,education they are all going to require more goverment involment when the goverment gets involved it has to grow in size to be involved
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Reddog,
Why don’t you ask the Iraqi’s who have survived so far just how well they like the “honor” of having their lives totally destroyed by tne US coming in and making their country, (ONE country in the middle east that had NO ties to Al Qaeda), the front for the war on terror?
Thousands of these Iraqis have been “liberated” from their lives!!
And Bush told US at home that it was patriotic to go shopping!!! No sacrifices here for the war on terror unless you are in the military!!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Nov 1, 2008 10:46:14 AM
Why dont we I see it I speak to soliders that have been there and How much work has been done do you have any idea what the country was like prior with saddam being there women had no rights poverty was rampid schooling was non existent
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
REDDOG
I think Obama will Be Fair with the Tax code, but you Know i wish Mccain would of stayed the Man he was in 2000 But he has moved to the far right I feel with Mccain nothing will change he will continue the same ole way And Sara is way far right then Bush, I feel we tried the Far right for 8 years its time for a change.And Mccain is too much of a war monger we cannot afford another senseless war because Mccain wants to prove he knows how to win wars
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
18 million Hillary voters? LOL ALL polls show those supporters are firmly in the Obama camp other than a few misguided people
Posted by: Carol | November 1, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Reddog
Well we need Good Education for our Children,As far as Healthcare that needs to be fixed too we the people cant do that alone but like obama says its just not the goverments responsibilty for good educatuion its the parents as well turn off the games and tv and help[ your children with school and homework thats not big goverment
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Why Barack Obama is wrong for our country: http://www.middleofright.com/2008/11/why-barack-obama-is-wrong-for-our.html
Posted by: MOR | November 1, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Reedog
on The subject of Iraq I agreed with bush on getting sadam but Bush has already declared Mission Accomplished in Iraq why are we still there Misson Accomplished is like saying we won
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
REDDOG
I think Obama will Be Fair with the Tax code, but you Know i wish Mccain would of stayed the Man he was in 2000 But he has moved to the far right I feel with Mccain nothing will change he will continue the same ole way And Sara is way far right then Bush, I feel we tried the Far right for 8 years its time for a change.And Mccain is too much of a war monger we cannot afford another senseless war because Mccain wants to prove he knows how to win wars
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 10:54:40 AM
He really has not deep inside he is the same man The reason he could not in good consience go along with the bush tax cuts had to do with the deficit spending Obama is way to far left I would of thought hard and long had she gotten the nomination.The economy has been under control under bush the spending has not.I honestly believe he got screwed in 2000 and I also think he can do more for us in the long term picture
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Reddog
Well we need Good Education for our Children,As far as Healthcare that needs to be fixed too we the people cant do that alone but like obama says its just not the goverments responsibilty for good educatuion its the parents as well turn off the games and tv and help[ your children with school and homework thats not big goverment
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 10:57:13 AM
You and he is right the parents need to be more invoved in childrens lives.He wants to regulate the schools there are things wrong with the healthcare system I agree with that But having two choices is not the answer Goverment or your employer I also dont agree with handing out healthcare to people who are not helping the system illegal immigrants will be included in his figures as well
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Reedog
on The subject of Iraq I agreed with bush on getting sadam but Bush has already declared Mission Accomplished in Iraq why are we still there Misson Accomplished is like saying we won
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 10:59:08 AM
Because we are doing alot of stuff there we are helping we are building a nation we are spreading democracy and No I do not think we should push our lifestyle on other people but in the case of a evil dictator that commited mass genocide on his own people
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Perhaps so, but the Iraqis have paid a far greater price than we have here in the USA, and I consider it to be immoral to attack a country that hadn’t attacked us.
Iraq was a secular country, so the women were not treated nearly as badly as in Saudi Arabia or under the Taliban. Women are still subjected to “honor killings” even in Jordan. It has more to do with tribal culture than with their leaders or Islam.
It is no secret that the UN sanctions had caused lots of hardship in Iraq, which had as much to do with Saddam Hussain hogging up the incoming money for his personal aggrandizment as it did with the sanctions.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 1, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
reddog0216: Then why didn’t we take action against Pol Pot in Cambodia, among many others. Reason: oil.
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
It is no secret that the UN sanctions had caused lots of hardship in Iraq, which had as much to do with Saddam Hussain hogging up the incoming money for his personal aggrandizment as it did with the sanctions.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Nov 1, 2008 11:10:35 AM
How about all of the illegal deals he cut with the chineese and the russians and the french.Why were the sanctions placed on him because he attacked Kuwait unprevoked and too try to get him to stay in line he refused inspections what do you do you allow someone to continue to defy and ignore you ??
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
reddog0216: Then why didn’t we take action against Pol Pot in Cambodia, among many others. Reason: oil.
Posted by: samurai | Nov 1, 2008 11:13:37 AM
It has more to do with the drug issues there than oil unfoutantley You have to align yourself with the lesser of two evils sometimes.I know in a pufect world it would be diffrent but the world is far from that.
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
OOPs perfect I meant
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
REDDOG
It was bush who has done the spending and as far as controling iraq we need to start staying out of other peoples country and cultures and start worrying about our own give me one policy Mccain has that is different then Bush and as far as obama being far left why are alot of republican politicans supporting him perhaps hes not far left but more in the center
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Why didn’t we invade N. Korea, knowing they had nuclear weapons? Instead we invade Iraq over WMDs that were not there.
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
SAMUARI
Becaus N Korea doesnt have oil
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
I know most of you see McCain as Bush but he is not This guy spent more time in captivity than Oabama has been a us senator I know that does not make him smarter but I know that makes him tougher.I do not want to be seen in the world as a weak nation with the likes of the russians iranians n koreans
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Bush had a revenge thing against sadam because of father bush and desert storm
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Iraq was the unprovoked blunder of an idiot in charge of our country, with people like McCain acting as the cheerleaders. And as the reasons for going in changed over time, once it hit ‘regime change’, it matched the FBI definition for international terrorism.
Posted by: Marvin | November 1, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Reddog
I for one have much respect for Mccain and his service but being pow does not mean you will be a good President but please point out one policy different then bush and yes he has agreed with bush 90 percent but thats understandable to agree with his party but in doing so how does that make him a maverick
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
REDDOG
It was bush who has done the spending and as far as controling iraq we need to start staying out of other peoples country and cultures and start worrying about our own give me one policy Mccain has that is different then Bush and as far as obama being far left why are alot of republican politicans supporting him perhaps hes not far left but more in the center
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:18:38 AM
I go by his voting record when some one votes 94% on party line I am skeptical.
McCain wants a spending freeze what do you do if you lose your job or dont have the money to do something go out and spend or just by the necessary stuff
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
SAMUARI
Becaus N Korea doesnt have oil
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:20:01 AM
Seems to me N Korea is backing down they want off the list of supporters of terror and are talking deal
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
If Mccain has a spending freeze more and more Federal Employess will loose their Jobs state workers will lose their Jobs because the Federal goverment will not be able to fund state budgets will Mccain freeze the Billons of dollars going to Iraq?
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Number of Americans killed in Iraq since “Mission Accomplished” (5/1/03): 4050 (and counting). What a waste. Bush should be tried as a war criminal.
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Bush had a revenge thing against sadam because of father bush and desert storm
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:20:50 AM
I can not dispute that I can say there was quite a list of democrats that said and believed Saddam had wmds prior to bush being in office perhaps if clinton did not gut the cia and the defense spending budget we may of had better intel
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Reddog
I am still waiting for the Policy difference Reddog do you think Bush was a good president for our country?
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
If Mccain has a spending freeze more and more Federal Employess will loose their Jobs state workers will lose their Jobs because the Federal goverment will not be able to fund state budgets will Mccain freeze the Billons of dollars going to Iraq?
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:26:20 AM
How do you figure that ??Spending freeze does not mean terminate goverment jobs it means a hold on addl spending
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
REDEDOG
DO you agree to BOMB BOMB IRAN as Mccain likes to sing do you think we can afford a third war?
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
McCain voted with Bush more than 90% of the time. And now he’s going to magically transform himself? Bush is in his DNA.
Posted by: samurai | November 1, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
REDDOG
FREEZE means stopping all spending freezing it up yes people will lose their jobs
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Obama’s illegal aunt living off Massachusetts taxpayers. All the reasons for VOTING YES on Prop 1 to get rid of state taxes.
Posted by: vs | November 1, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Reddog
I am still waiting for the Policy difference Reddog do you think Bush was a good president for our country?
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:27:53 AM
No I think he made some bad choices he over spent was his biggest.I guess it is easy to play monday morning quaterback of how we could of done things diffrently.I dont think his presidencey will be seen as badly years from now have you heard of the misery index????
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
REDEDOG
DO you agree to BOMB BOMB IRAN as Mccain likes to sing do you think we can afford a third war?
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:30:07 AM
No I dont but I think we all have made jokes or songs in humor that does not mean thats really how someone feels
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
If you and you Sibiling get into a fight does your parents promote you to talk aboutit and resovle it or do they promote you to use violence on eachother, now this is the Diffrence between Mccain and Obama one wants to use Diplomacy and try to resovle it The other wants to use Violence and drop Bombs!
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
REDDOG
FREEZE means stopping all spending freezing it up yes people will lose their jobs
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:31:09 AM
Thats not what he means or what it means
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
If you and you Sibiling get into a fight does your parents promote you to talk aboutit and resovle it or do they promote you to use violence on eachother, now this is the Diffrence between Mccain and Obama one wants to use Diplomacy and try to resovle it The other wants to use Violence and drop Bombs!
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:33:59 AM
No McCain wants diplomacy as well he would probably have to use less force than Obama would they would be more out to test Obama than McCain
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
McCain voted with Bush more than 90% of the time. And now he’s going to magically transform himself? Bush is in his DNA.
Posted by: samurai | Nov 1, 2008 11:30:41 AM
Obama vote 94% with the democrats who is more centered
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Yes Reddog MCain was a pow prior Military he lives eats and breathes war he doesnt know any other way, Diplomacy doesnt even exsit in his mind. he comes from along list of Military Family war war war is all he knows i mean listen to his speeches FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT WITH ME MCCAIN IS DANGEROUS! he even called us his fellow prisoners
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
REDDOG
What does Freeze means to you I dont think Mccain knows what he means i mean he even admitted on larry king that Obama is not a socialist I not disrespecting Mccains age but at his age people become confused easily
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Angie,
Come on angie you know that was a gaffe just like Obama saying 57 states and biden telling the guy in a wheelchair to stand up.
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
REDDOG
What does Freeze means to you I dont think Mccain knows what he means i mean he even admitted on larry king that Obama is not a socialist I not disrespecting Mccains age but at his age people become confused easily
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:39:14 AM
I am in a spending freeze at my buissness I need to update equipment that I can not afford so I make do ,that does not mean I am terminating people .
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Reddog
Yes I agree Maybe his bomb bomb Iran comment was taking out of content and yes all the Canidates have said stupid things lord knows biden should keep his foot on the ground hahahah
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Obama is not a socialist he has some socialist points of view.
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Reddog
I just wish Republicans and democrats both would come together a little compromise on their ideals and stop the bickering and gridlock this does not help our country and im talking about both sides
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Times change, as do means and methods for dealing with our enemies. Military force rarely works at removing terrorist organizations. McCain still thinks it does, despite what multiple reports and analysis says. He is dangerous, and multiple high ranking military officials have come out and said so, pointing specifically to his short fuse and desire to overuse military force. He has neither the temperment or mindset to be a leader, nor does he have a platform that will get us on the right path.
Posted by: Marvin | November 1, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Reddog
I just wish Republicans and democrats both would come together a little compromise on their ideals and stop the bickering and gridlock this does not help our country and im talking about both sides
Posted by: Angie | Nov 1, 2008 11:43:55 AM
Amen to that I think thats a formula that would get this nation somewhere I really believe that If obama gets elected he does not reach across the aslie as well as McCain does look at Liberman If Obama gets elected It is going to go the complete other way no checks and balances in the goverment
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
REDDOG
So what you just pointed out with your Business is what Obama wants to do with the federal budget go down it what is a waste get rid of it, what works well try to keep thats diffrent then a freeze but at the same time its kinda the same just Diffrent ways of putting it so pretty much Obama and Mccain are similar on this issue
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
No Obama wants to go out and buy the new equipment in hopes it pays off in the long run a freeze means no new spending Obama wants much new spending McCain wants to keep taxes low on everyone Obama wants to raise on some and give more to others his middle class tax cuts equate to nothing more than bush has done but will give a large portion of the monety to people who pay little or no income tax now
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
REDDOG
Gotta go now good luck and whomever should win lets just hope this country can get better!
Posted by: Angie | November 1, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Check out your taxes before the bush tax cuts and in 2008 he is a tool http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Take care angie nice chatting
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
McCain fought against his own tax stance this election back in 2000 and for Obamas, even citing Greenspans support for it. Seems McCain has changed. Greenspan hasn’t.
Posted by: bill | November 1, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
McCain fought against his own tax stance this election back in 2000 and for Obamas, even citing Greenspans support for it. Seems McCain has changed. Greenspan hasn’t.
Posted by: bill | Nov 1, 2008 11:54:06 AM
That is not what he fought against he was against the deficit spending
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
“I am disappointed that the Senate Finance Committee preferred instead to cut the top tax rate of 39.6% to 36%, thereby granting generous tax relief to the wealthiest individuals of our country at the expense of lower- and middle-income American taxpayers.” [McCain Senate floor statement, May 21, 2001]
And in a town hall debate, he said this:
But I think the debate in this country is more about tax cuts rather than anything else. And frankly, I think the first people who deserve a tax cut are working Americans with children that need to educate their children, and they’re the ones that I would support tax cuts for first.
Posted by: bill | November 1, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
MCCAIN: I think your question — questioning the fundamentals of a progressive tax system where people who make more money pay more in taxes than a flat, across-the-board percentage. I think it’s to some degree because we feel, obviously, that wealthy people can afford more. We have over the years, beginning with John F. Kennedy, reduced some of those marginal tax rates to make them less onerous.
But I believe that when you really look at the tax code today, the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don’t pay nearly as much as you think they do when you just look at the percentages. And I think middle-income Americans, working Americans, when the account and payroll taxes, sales taxes, mortgage pay — all of the taxes that working Americans pay, I think they — you would think that they also deserve significant relief, in my view…
Posted by: TaxMan | November 1, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Hi TaxMan,
You are wrong on how much the “wealthy” pay.
Did you know that the top 10% of wage earners (those making over $108,000 per year) pay over 70% of ALL federal taxes in the United States? That means the bottom 90% of Americans pay only 30% of taxes. Out of that 90% the bottom 50% pay less than 3% (the bottom 40% pay NO TAXES AT ALL!). You may wonder how Barack Obama will give a tax cut to 95% of the population when only 60% even pay taxes and the top 5% is the target that taxes will be raised!
http://www.middleofright.com/2008/11/why-barack-obama-is-wrong-for-our.html
Posted by: Michael | November 1, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Tom: You’ve talked about in your own office, for example, you pay a much lower tax rate with all of your wealth than, say, a receptionist does.
Warren: That’s exactly right, Tom, and I think the only way to do it is with specifics. In our office 15 people cooperated in a survey, out of 18, I didn’t make anybody do it. And my total taxes paid, payroll taxes plus income tax, mine came to 17.7 percent. The average for the office was 32.9 percent. There wasn’t anybody in the office, from the receptionist on, who paid a lower tax rate. And I have no tax planning, I don’t have an accountant, I don’t have tax shelters. I just follow what the U.S. Congress tells me to do.
And to further prove his point, Buffett has challenged .. he’s offered a million dollars to charity to any of the Forbes 400 richest people who can show on average that they pay a higher tax rate than their secretaries pay, but so far, he’s had no takers.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21543506
Posted by: TaxMan | November 1, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Molly…you’re in for a surprise. I’m one of those bitter Hillary supporters…coming to my senses and voting Obama.McCain and his hateful, lying, cheating, campaign sent me runnig to the other side. Not to mention his plans for my future. And then there’s his VP pick. The polar oppostie of a woman I admire…Hillary. Don’t call yourself a Hillary supporter because you’re not.If you don’t like the dem nominee then stay home on Tues. But saying your voting for McCain and calling yourself a Hillary supporter is not only hypocritical, it’s blasfamast.
Posted by: Bea | November 1, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
You are wrong on how much the “wealthy” pay.
Posted by: Michael | Nov 1, 2008 12:17:25 PM
PS: Since you seem to have missed it, the previous post was McCains own words back in 2000, not mine :)
Posted by: TaxMan | November 1, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
TaxMan – Because Warren Buffet lives off of dividend income. How many Billionares are there that live on dividend income compared to how many normal people that use it for savings and investment?
Is it really a good idea to raise taxes on everyone because Warren Buffet earns dividend income?
Also, if Warren Buffet really thought he was under taxed he could write a check at the end of the year to Uncle Sam to compensate for his guilt.
Posted by: Michael | November 1, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Chuck…dream on. McCain is behind in the polls in all of the swing states.And 10 points behind in the national polls. Even with a 3% margain of error He’s still behind. He’s even behind in OH. Hence, the nasty campaign tactics to invite hatefilled rhetoric. Socialist, communist, marxist, lying about his policies and insighting radical republicans to shout hateful slurs on the campaign trail. Well, Palin is a socialist and so is McCain by their own standards. The election is all but over.
Posted by: Bea | November 1, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
I’m not voting for McCain. I’m voting against Obama.
http://www.middleofright.com/2008/11/why-barack-obama-is-wrong-for-our.html
Posted by: Michael | November 1, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Doesn’t matter what Biden says, peole like Joe. Just like they like Saddam too. Doesn’t make him competent…
Posted by: hmn | November 1, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
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I’m not voting for McCain. I’m voting against Obama.
Posted by: Michael | Nov 1, 2008 12:36:37 PM
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The only thing worse than not voting is voting for irrational reasons. If you really cared about this country (which you apparently don’t), you would sit at home election day and watch the results on TV. Let the intelligent people decide the direction of this country, not the ignorant.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108043/Candidate-Support-Education.aspx
Posted by: benji | November 1, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
All I can say is that when I see McCain is I remember that scence from the Simpsons show, “Old man yells at cloud.” When I see Palin I see, Peggy from the family guy.
I don’t want some old senile dude running the country, someone who couldn’t fly jets in the military worth a damn, crashed 4 of them and got shot down in 1. He wouldn’t have been a prisoner of war if they had grounded him like they would have other pilots whose daddy wasn’t an admiral. And don’t forget about the fire on the Oriskany. I served with guys that had been on the ship when the Zuni took off. McCain dropped his bombs instead of hitting the ejection seat and made the conflagration worse. I see “Panic” not coolness under fire in that act. He was also the first one medivaced off the carrier, not because of his injuries but because the crew was going to kill him and because his daddy was an admiral. I’m a Navy veteran and a Vietnam vet so I ought to know what I’m talking about. Obama has run a honest campaign that hasn’t brought this area of his service to the nation to our attention. He also voted against the new GI bill of rights, so much for his support of us veterans. He states that he was tested in the Cuban missle crisis. If he had been in charge we wouldn’t be having this election because we would back in the stone age after he ordered the strike on the missle sites in Cuba with the Soviets responding. Kennedy talked with everyone that had knowledge about the situation and I believe Obama will do the same. That’s why Colin Powell supports him.
Posted by: Mark | November 1, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
benji- Intelligent People? You’re kidding right?
You are the people that think another round of social welfare and soaking those of us that produce will solve all problems in America.
You and Obama are dangerous to this country.
Maybe you should go back and find out why there are still poor people even though LBJ passed through all of the “Great Society” laws.
Maybe you would care to explain why Cuba is stuffed with poor people and Obama and Castro share lots of common beliefs in their policy.
http://www.middleofright.com/2008/11/why-barack-obama-is-wrong-for-our.html
Posted by: Michael | November 1, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Michael,
Could the reason we still have poor people is because the Republicans have systematically done away with every social reform enacted under the Great Society and are actively engaged in attempting to do away with even the reforms that Roosevelt and a Democratic Congress enacted to bring out of the Great Depression. Cuba is stuffed with poor people because the United States has sided with a vocal Cuban minority to keep sanctions on the economy. I find it ironic that Cuba has a higher literacy rate and a lower infant mortality rate than the world richest nation does, or make that second richest, China must be first due to the record deficit spending that the administration has put us in during the last eight years.
Posted by: Mark | November 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Republicans haven’t done away with the great society. What do you think 5-6 months of my annual income goes for?
Social Security and Medicare are alive and well. As a matter of fact a Republican (Bush) just increased medicare by the largest amount of any president since LBJ himself.
You can lie all you want but the basic fact will remain the same that when you put people on welfare they stay there. Obama doesn’t have a plan for helping people out of poverty. He just has a plan for keeping them in poverty.
I find it ironic that you believe literacy and infant mortality rates from a dictator that shoots people that disagree with him publicly. Talk about gullible.
Posted by: Michael | November 1, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Michael,
It’s a stated aim of the Republican party to dismantle the legislation enacted during the period of the Great Society and the even the legislation enacted by the Roosevelt administration. Privatization of Social Security being an example of this. Look it up it’s not a lie, it’s a fact. Welfare has been reformed, but it’s just the fact that the policies of the Republican administration has forced more people into poverty in the last eight years than the previous eight when more people came off the welfare roles due to the booming economy during the Clinton administration.
As far as Cuba, I think that people would rather live educated and healthy lives under a dictatorship that has had no chance to open up due to the policies of the Republicans than die under the policies of the Batista regime that was supported by the United States. The Cubans revolted and got the system they wanted. There is nothing to prevent them from doing it again if they wanted to. It’s their country not ours. Maybe the Cubans that are here ought to go home and try to change the system that they disagree with than set on their butts in Miami and make our government do their dirty work for them, all the while sending money and goods to relatives that our corporations that actually employee workers from doing. Rather hypocritical don’t you think.
I know that I would rather have a living, educated child than a dead one. Which is what Republicans seem to prefer with their abortion platform. Force a woman to bring a child into the world then deny services to the family so the child doesn’t have a home, health care, or food to eat. Die early or die late, either way your dead.
Posted by: Mark | November 1, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Mark ,
Maybe you should move to cuba it sounds like from how you describe how you would like it .It amazes me for such a horrible place we have more people applying to be here than anywhere else in the world nevermind all the illegals ignoring the current laws
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 1, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Ha! Well said, ‘Posted by: Meghan | Nov 1, 2008 12:47:56 AM’
From Bush/McCain’s irresponsible and fiscally ruinous war in Iraq, to McCain’s boy Gramm and his utter destruction of our economy (thanks ‘Foreclosure Phil’ [google it!]!), to the practically treasonous choice of an inadequate ideologue like Sarah Palin, America has had enough of the corruption and incompetent of the republican party. Once again, it’s time for Democrats to come in and clean up the mess. Once again, it’s time for good, effective, responsible governance.
Posted by: Michael Compton | November 1, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
The same old republican talking points from Mark Garnett – shame it’s all talk, and the reality of republican governance is starkly different. For 30+ years we saw the republican minority throw stones, talking endlessly about what they would do if they ever had their hands on the rudder of government. Well, they had it – the presidency for 8 years, and total control of both houses + the WH for 6 years. What did it bring us? The worst attack on American soil in our history. A DOUBLING of the national debt (ten TRILLION!). Our brave soldiers mired in two seemingly endless wars – only to come home to find their benefits slashed by the same republicans that wrap themselves in the flag at every opportunity. An economy in shambles. Epic unemployment. Crime once again on the rise after historical lows in the 19990′s. An unprecedented level of corruption that reached (reaches) the very top of their party (anyone remember Abramoff?). The most basic functions of the government placed in the hands of incompetents (FEMA, for example). Our national discourse thrown into the gutter by the likes of Rove, whose tactics are a disgrace to the entire country. Well guess what, Mark Garnett – we’re wise to you now. Whether the talking points come from you, Tucker Bounds, McCain, Palin, or Rove himself – we’ve wised up. The American people have seen with their own eyes what ‘conservative’ government produces, and we are unimpressed, to say the least. You ran the country off the road, and you DESERVE to lose – what’s more, I suspect you know it. Shame on the republican party, and shame on those who would try to convince us to endanger our country by handing them the reins for another 4 years. Enough is enough.
Posted by: Michael Compton | November 1, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
I am sorry to say that some of you posters are way off base. Is it welfare to give tax breaks to the wealthy,which is what McCain proposes to do. A tax cut is not welfare If you did not work you would not file an income tax return so therefore no refund >You have to work and have income aside from child suppor ect to file tax returns to get a freund or any tax break I can’t believe some of you people don’t know this.
Posted by: maryjane | November 1, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Come on people just get out and vote do not be intimidated or chased away..In fact I read where you should try very hard not to cast a provisional ballot ,that you should try to get things straightened out so you can cast a regular ballot.I hope anyone who moved recently or has not changed their drivers license to their new address has now done that.That way the republicans cant purge you off the voting rolls. Yes we can
Posted by: jojobo1 | November 1, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Obama’s fiscal policies remind me of a past President. Hoover raised taxes during a recession, but he was a Republican so I guess that is not quite the same thing.
Posted by: Harold | November 1, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
I’m so glad we point fingers and tell everyone who the guilty ones are. But please don’t look to closely at the dem. party they like us poor, illiterate and believe the moon is made out of swiss cheese.
Let Biden speak he tells more about Sen. Obama and his plan for this country then Sen. Obama and his campaign have done in 2 years.
Go out and vote, vote, vote, as many times as ACHORN lets you.
Posted by: usa | November 1, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Obama’s former speech writer endorses McCain
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-28/so-long-obama/1/
Posted by: Tiffany | November 1, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
it’s Too Late to muzzle Biden!
The Damage is Done!
Biden’s “Mark My Words” Speech will
Cost Barack Obama the election!
Wednesdays Headline: McCain Wins!
Obama and Biden return to the Senate!
Posted by: reaganfan | November 1, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Our United States Would not have been attacked on 9-11-2001 if The liberal Democrat Voters did not
vote Slick Willy/The Clintons into a Trust worthy Highest Respected Office, of Presidency, period.
Now Because he wasn’t doing his job, to watch and to protect the Country.
Osama BinLaden terrorist leader, was within this Country planning another previous Attack again after
Destroying the parking Garage beneath, the World Trade Centers Building, with horrible carnage, mass
destruction, and injuring others. Today 2008, We all, still suffer the effects of the attacks on the world
trade centers. Another reason why the Economy, Wall Street, every towns Main Street, is still effected.
He was impeached, on SEVEN COUNTS OF IMPEACHMENT! Disrespectful, lying, felony, Womanizer,
Clown. But, was not removed from office. Shame. Even Joe Biden voted for impeachment.
Honorable Joe Lieberman, did the Right thing! Voted for Clintons Impeachment! He didn’t leave the
Democrat party. The party left Him. He voted Bipartisan. The honorable thing.
B. Clinton, should have been removed form Office, and not portrayed as a Hero. He pardoned over 200
criminals including drug dealers, in his last days of presidency. What a shame. What a sham.
Voting for “Barrack Hussein Obama” Will Bring and almost Guarantees more of the Same.
The Alleged A.C.O.R.N. group is under Investigation. They promote Voter fraud, the immediate Media
is a cover up of the Democrat Cheat to win. Their agenda is get all Democrats elected any way, any how!
If Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz, would like to keep and protect an accurate Election.
With no Improper Election fraud. Within our State, The right and proper thing to do is.
Insure that all eligible voters when handed a ballot, even an absentee ballot, to apply their legal social security number attached written on the ballot to be recorded and verified, with the new computer read scanner, voting machines.
Then and there, nationally if voter fraud, excessive voting and accuracy can be verified, instantaiously.
When voter verification is recorded.
One Vote, One Voter!
No more dead gold fish voters, deceased voters, multiple illegal voters.
With mandating the Voter apply his/her, Legal social security number be written on the ballot, for the vote scanner this should be mandated though out our Country at all the polls and insure voter accuracy, and legimaticy.
With strong severe Federal election law penalties, of severe fines and imprisonment.
Along with the eradication of our Rights , liberties, Pursuit of Happiness, and Security!
I personally do not believe he was born within the United States or is a Citizen! That disqualifies his
presidency. The Media including the Hartford Courant, The Journal Inquirer. Have been Bias
supporting, campaigning for Obama Democrats. Allowing,Terrible cartoon characters, pictures, untrue
mockery and ridicule of the Republican candidates.
John McCain and Sarah Palin have an economic plan that celebrates the American dream of opportunity,
not government give aways. In this country, we believe in spreading opportunity, for those who need
jobs and those who create them. That’s why their economic plan – Jobs for America – is so
important for the American people in this time of economic crisis. While Barack Obama is ready to
“spread the wealth around,” John McCain has a plan to get our economy moving so everyone has
access to good jobs, a quality education and the opportunity to succeed.
Honorable John McCain and Sarah Palin offer Honesty, Fresh recovery, no tax increases, strength
prosperity, stability, and Security, for our country .
Vote good Hon. John McCain and Sarah Palin for the Best of our Country. The United States of
America.!! God Bless America if U don’t ! Thank You
Posted by: Born American Pro American | November 2, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Yeah, Republicans really sit around wringing their hands with glee at the thought of all these poor people out there. Give me a break.
Half of every tax dollar goes to Socialist welfare programs. Some help, most don’t, but they are kept anyway.
Also, I wonder how many of you Libs out there automatically think of inner city minorities when you hear the word ‘poor’.
I know that the image of poor white people living in rural trailer parks probably don’t enter your mind at all. Being white, they are still part of the ‘oppressive establishment’.
Three are millions of screwed up people out there…that’s not the government’s fault. Even when there was little unemployment they still didn’t want to work. All they want is a steady supply of dope, booze, and sex. I had a friend who was in that system of SSI handouts. Amazing to see so many young, working-age people not working sitting around drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes all day…because they screwed themselves up so much with substance abuse they are virtually non-functional and have no ambition whatsoever. Sad, but true.
These folks will blow whatever money they get on BS including drugs and alcohol. If you don’t know that, then you are living a sheltered life.
And WE’RE supposed to pay even more for them to make Liberals feel good about themselves?
Posted by: Grand Old Party | November 2, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Maybe we should ask Sen. Biden about the civilian army Sen. Obama is planning on having,with all the mistakes he makes, he might spill the beans. No matter what it is, sounds like Russia or Iran. Maybe its closer, Cuba, Venezuela?????????
How do we know if Sen.Obama/Sen.Biden are’nt already talking to those leaders????
Posted by: like it here | November 2, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Several comments worth of flimsy, demonstrably discredited republican boilerplate later, my points stand. Continue smearing, and attempting to pass off innuendo, irrational conjecture, and baseless fear-mongering as a substitute for reason and effective policy. The jig is up, republicans – here in the real world (including MANY in the upper echelons of your OWN PARTY), we’re done with you.
Posted by: Michael Compton | November 2, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm