Neocons for Obama?

Who cares what a consummate political opportunist like Ken Adelman thinks? Again, another waste of good bandwidth.

Newt? Where are you Newt? Time to admit it – Obama is the better choice – Newt?

It seems that Powell’s statement has helped others come forward.
I am an independent and have been appalled at what has been going on from both sides. Although, the McCain side seems to be 100% negative, the Obama side has about 40%. Just stating a fact.

Who’s next?

Another conservative who refuses to stand by McCain tries to foist himself upon an unwilling nation. I am not sure I will ever forgive McCain for what his campaign has done these last few weeks – turning a country – and the party – against itself. And he accuses Obama of being anti-America?
What happenned to Country First? He seems intent on destroying the country he professes to love so much. Not buying it. Not interested. And quite disgusted. He has uttterly disqualified himself and should be ashamed.

True conservatives have a problem with Palin. It’s obvious this pick was to put a pacifier in the mouths of radical social/Christian-conservative theocrats and those that keep a years supply of deer corn and check their traps from time to time.
True conservatives are well read and have a solid base of requirements for their presidents. Sarah Palin is not even qualified for a temp job at a staffing agency.

McCain sooooooo wants to endorse Obama too.

Who will endorse Obama nest? I suspect it will be Todd Palin.

Go Obama. It will be a landslide!

I tell you that the real conservatives in this country should endorse (quietly) Obama’s campaign because he was raised through age 30 under 10 years of Kennedy/Johnson/Carter but 20 of Nixon/Ford/Reagan policies.
1. This shows that he prospered under relatively conservative policies.
2. He is the fruit of the “color blind” policies that were being pushed.
3. If elected, a lot the rationale for affirmative action and similar race-based quotas goes away because the system did work. He saw his opportunities and took them.
4. If he were a little more conservative (maybe a lot more), he would be the poster child of those folks.

The Palin pick has been devastating for McCain and the GOP in general. After losing this election, the populist Palin phenomenon will cause a serious split in the GOP; many classic, well educated conservatives and many neocons from the Allan Bloom school enormously despise her and everything she stands for.

Captain America,
Yes, Adelman did promote the invasion of Iraq. However, he also denounced the Bush administration for its incompetence in Iraq. He said that in light of that incompetence, the invasion was a mistake.
However, the significance of Adelman’s statement is that it shows that opposition to McCain isn’t limited to the far left. Adelman is not on the left, and neither is Colin Powell.
I am an independent. Most of my friends and relatives are Republicans and independents. All of us are voting for Obama for the same reasons that Adelman and Powell have expressed.
This election could have been John McCain’s to loose. But McCain caved in to the far right of his party, chose a stunningly unqualified running mate, behaved erratically during the recent market crisis, and has run an incompetent, shameful campaign based on attacking his opponent rather than discussing the issues.
You don’t have to be a member of moveon.org or even a garden-variety liberal to find that unacceptable in a man who seeks to be the leader of our nation.

Jake, Michelle Obama was rumored the other day to have gorged herself on $450 worth of Iranian caviar, lobster and champagne at the NY Waldorf-Astoria.
The pearl-clutching news, circulated on Limbaugh’s show and elsewhere, apparently derived from a New York Post gossip item that’s been deleted because – imagine this – Michelle Obama was nowhere near NYC on Wednesday.
I was stunnes to learn that self-proclaimed PUMA sites (such as the PUMA PAB blog) are promoting the story, complete with transparently awful photoshopped images of Michelle Obama’s “receipt.”
These PUMA folks are Limbaugh’s ideological love babies, and nothing else.
Shame on them.
BTW, the latest ABC/WaPo poll tells us that 91% of registered Democrats intend to vote for Obama. So much for “Clinton Democrats”, PUMA, and all that BS. They’re GOP fantasies that will be dust come Nov 4.

President Palin? How can R’s stand around and pretend that Sarah Palin could or should be president.

Not To Worry…
There are still some voters out there that would vote for a stump if there were some religious agenda tacked to it.

Obama is suspending his campaign.
Obama is showing that family is more important than his campaign. A man of “real” values.
His grandmother is sick and he is going to Hawaii.

OxyCon: “how many al Queda terrorists we have killed in Iraq since Spring 2008?
Hundreds! All of these terrorists that are committed to killing Americans …” Please get a grip on reality. These people are fighting for THEIR TRIBE (Sunni, Shia, Kurd) against other TRIBES. The only thing they are jointly committed to is getting US to leave. And the surge has failed: there has been no political progress, the country remains a ruin, and violence is still worse than most recent civil wars. BTW, Al Qaeda’s base is in PAKISTAN, not IRAQ.

@OxyCon
What is victory in Iraq? Such a simple question and McCain has no answer. Truth is, you cannot win a war when you haven’t defined victory. And you cannot liberate a people who doesn’t want to be liberated.

Mitt Romley couldn’t bring himself to say that Sarah Palin would make a good President. Nobody wants the news clip. Not even John McCain can bring himself to say it.
Letterman:”(Is Sarah Palin) the woman to lead us though the next 9/11 attack?”
“Absolutely, she is!”answered McCain. “She has inspired Americans. That’s the thing we need.”
Betcha he can’t say Sarah would make a good President, just sayin’

I can’t say I like Ken Adelman, but I respect his decision to put loyalty to country above loyalty to party. That’s an example i wish more republicans would follow. McCain and his smugly self-righteous attack dog Palin are a disgrace to this country.

I think all the candidates are terrifying. I laugh every time I hear someone justify why they’re voting for a candidate. It always sounds like they’re talking about either one. What an election year!

My thoughts and prayers goes out to the Obama’s family!!!!

Judasmac: “neocons have a strong pragmatic and anti-ideological streak”. Wait a minute. Neocons at the top – like Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al – clung to their ideological fantasies of bringing “democracy” to the middle east, fighting wars with minimal troops, the “free market” etc., even when these have all proven disastrous. The reason neocons are failing – again, they tried this game in the 1980s – is that they put ideology ahead of facts and pragmatism.

“Contrary to popular prejudice, neocons have a strong pragmatic and anti-ideological streak.”
Excuse me? Please read the works of Leo Strauss, Allan Bloom et al and join the discussion again after you did indeed do so.
The neocons are idealists in the strict sense of the word; they’re adherents of Plato and his The Republic. The opposite, I’d say, of anti-ideological pragmatists.

“United” States of America. Welcome Adelman, welcome to America.
Obama/Biden 08!

folks…Those comment were posted by FREEPERS on the Free Republic!!
It ain’t me. I’m only riding heard on them.
I think Obama should take all the time he can spare and my prayers go out to Mrs. Madelyn Payne Dunham. Godspeed Barack.

“Who cares about Obama’s taking two days off!! There is more IMPORTANT NEWS THAT YOU SHOULD BE REPORTING!”
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Ok, let’s report on:
McCain Employing GOP Operative Accused Of Voter Registration Fraud

I saw Palin in SNL.
In the second skit where she was dancing to the rap, she was really funny and interesting.
She gave us lots of scandal and gosship and laughter from the beginning – Bristol’s pregnancy, Troopergate, Disasterous interview, I will miss her when the election is over.

d0 wrote:
“He is not your Mr. anti-war-ior”
Exactly. Like he said in 2003:
“I don’t oppose all wars.
After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this Administration’s pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.
I don’t oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.”
That is why people are voting for him.

Obama Wants DOJ to Silence McCain-Palin on ACORN.
What a surprise!!
Just the fact that the Obama group would write a letter to the DOJ speaks for itself. Obama wants to shut everyone up who does not agree with him, or that might get the people thinking.. Such as Joe the plumber.
He smirks when you catch him in a lie, and writes letters to quiet those who dare to question his behavior. I question your judgement. Is this what you want in a President?

@Michelle
From factcheck.org:
“The McCain-Palin campaign accuses ACORN, a community activist group that operates nationwide, of perpetrating ‘massive voter fraud.’ It says Obama has ‘long and deep’ ties to the group. We find both claims to be exaggerated.”
“Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with, casting fraudulent votes. What a McCain-Palin Web ad calls ‘voter fraud’ is actually voter registration fraud. Several ACORN canvassers have been found guilty of faking registration forms and others are being investigated. But the evidence that has surfaced so far shows they faked forms to get paid for work they didn’t do, not to stuff ballot boxes.”

Well, Repubs – how do you spin this one?
Don’t tell me – Adelman spent the summer on the beach and got a tan, so he’s voting based on skin color, right?
LMFAO

Obama took lessons from Hillary on politics. Never admit to anything. Remember Bill” I absolutely did not have sex with Monica Lewinsky”. When accused always accuse the other guy to distract attention away from you. True Liberalism….

why are you all wondering about obama,
go ahead and make up whatever you want.
you only believe the truth you make up.
so make up a reason why obama hired a lawyer.
If obama called you up himself and said any of you ask me a question, any question you would like.
when he gave you the answer, you would not believe him. so just ask your questions, make up any answer you want.
and it will lead to more questions…and on and on.
you don’t like obama, you don’t want to like obama, you will not be voting for him, so why don’t you spend the rest of this time, trying to find out exactly what john mccain is going to do for you,
other than get your blood pressure up,
and get you fighting mad.
you are done with obama,
ask something of mr. mccain.

don’t get it, we all know bill did have sex with monica.
will mccain and palin be talking about monica L and bill having sex tomorrow?
why,
lets talk about anything except what john mccain will do for this country.

“How about since the election is getting closer and the polls show that Obama has a small lead”
?
A small lead? Obama’s lead in electoral vote is huge.
Obama’s lead in today’s Gallup Daily Tracking Poll is 11 points.
Today’s Suffolk poll on Ohio shows a 9 point lead for Obama.
Rasmussen today tells us that Obama opens his biggest lead in Virgina so far, 10 points.
Obama is ahead in ALL the swing states that McCain MUST win.
Etc.
This race is over.

There are still a huge number of undecideds out there.
And trust me, if someone is still undecided, in other words hasn’t been swayed by the Messiah by now….then they aren’t going to be.
Undecideds will go to McCain. Get use to it. And try not to fall apart this time, okay?!
;-)

you all have been yelling so loud for birth certificates and such, you missed it months ago. obama not only told everyone to examine his plans for getting this country out of this mess, he has been on the campaign trail talking about what he will do and how he will pay for it.
while mccain has been talking about bill ayers, and such. (financially bill ayers will do better under mccain plan. and joe the plumber will be bettter with obama.)
obama has told us what he will do to help the country. mccain has been telling us about bill ayers.

B.O.B.
Yes because Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers speaks volumes about what Obmama will do for this country.
And trust me, we need to know.

Hillary as senator about Bush not wanting to turn over documents. Hillary did the same about travelgate documents. Just use the same standard for all

The biggest shock in the world will be on the democrat party’s faces as they watch the election returns.
McCain will win, and you will wonder where it all went so wrong.

Mara, spare us your righteous indignation.
The Huffington Post and Daily Kos, the two most POPULAR blogs supporting Obama are so vile they have to shut down comments when people like Tony Snow and Robert Novak announced their illnesses.
Nice try though. The evil is your side, and don’t you forget it.

examine his plans for getting this country out of this mess, he has been on the campaign trail talking about what he will do and how he will pay for it.
How did he say he will pay for it??????

I have noticed something very disturbing about Mr. Obama and his campaign over the past year especially since the NH primary. When he lost the primary in NH it was a shocker and the Obama resopnse was to cast Bill Clinton as a racist. Then in Ohio when Hillary was told a story about a woman who was denied health care at a local clinic and her baby later died, Mr. Obama and his surrogates invistigated the sheriff and the mother and declared that they were lying.She was hounded by the press at the same time she was still mourning her lose. The media and Obama got it wrong, she was denied treatment but not at the hospital that was mentioned it was at a clinic owned by the hospital. When a woman in Pa said that she supported Hillary and not Obama in a campaign commerical she was investigated. When a woman in PA ask a question during the ABC debate as to why Mr. Obama did not wear a flag pin and that his not doing so bothered he she too soon meet the rath of Obama. She was investigated and all of her personal life was fair game for Mr. Obama and the media.
I write this because something clicked when I saw how Mr. Obama and company treate the now famous “Joe the Plumber”. Mr. Obama goes to his neighborhood and crosses the street to meet him and when he ask Mr. Obama question that he does not like the Obama dogs are sent to smell him out and his whole life is put up for public ridicule. The lesson is clear if one goes against the Great Obama then Obama will use all the resources at his disposal to destrory them. The problem is he may soon have the resources of the Federal Government at his disposal in his efforts to quite his critics.

That’s right Jo,
Obama’s so worried that he’s gonna throw money at the down ticket to get a filibuster-proof Senate too.
Oh, yeah, Worried…that’s the ticket>

Why is ABC News lying about the polls on their World News telecast? They are trying to give the impression that Obama is pulling ahead of McCain when in fact the race is tightening up. Stephanopoulus is the chief culprit. His journalistic objectivity is long gone. It is time for George to go back into politics and leave journalism, such as it is, to the journalists.

“if you are a supporter of john mccain, i’ll remember you and you absolute lack of humanity whenever i think of mccain.
Posted by: mara | Oct 20, 2008 11:01:38 PM
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This is the grandma who supported and raised Obama , the one he referred to as a”typical white woman”, the one he tossed under the bus……
How kind of him to see her off on her final journey!
I admire her.
There are many like her in today’s world, left to take up the slack in the family when someone else is unable to do so.
Shalom.
My vote still will go to:
MCCAIN AND PALIN

“They are trying to give the impression that Obama is pulling ahead of McCain when in fact the race is tightening up.”
Well, it isn’t. The gap is only widening. See what’s happening in the states, see Obama’s 11 point lead today in the Gallup daily tracking poll.

McCain’s pullin out of Co, Nev and Ia. Bankin on covering it all with PA…but 12 pts back there.
Can you spell L O S E R?

So now Adelman has jumped off the sinking McCain ship.
WHO’S NEXT TO ENDORSE OBAMA?
MY MONEY IS ON DAVID BROOKS.
THE ORACLE HAS SPOKEN

The far right neo-con world and right wing Republicans are now involved in a ‘scorched earth’ policy in America. If they can’t win they will cause as much damage to the country above and beyond what they already have done for the last 8 years.
Even long time conservatives who now dare to express an independent thought get hate mail and are vilified. There is no room in the Republican party for anything except the party line. Another clear example of how they’re so ‘open’ to ‘reaching across the aisle’.
As far as Adelman goes, his opinion will always be suspect, regardless of the subject.

Jo they all said it would be a cakewalk GWB the VP rummy and Mccain shows Mccains Judgement I say

Obama’s throwin money at the down ticket to get a filibuster-proof Senate. He’s a fund raising juggernaut!!
D.C.’s gonna look good in blue baby! Gonna take that to fix 8 years of GOP screw-ups.

” The problem is he may soon have the resources of the Federal Government at his disposal in his efforts to quite his critics.”
Posted by: russell | Oct 20, 2008 11:12:38 PM
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Yhat reminds me of still another Obama story.
A delegate in Chicago was watching a group of kids climbing her tree.
She made a (horrors!) politically incorrect comment.
She described them as a “pack of monkeys”.
I disremember whether or not theye were a racially motley crew or not; The delegate was Mexican.
She was hounded by Obama’s followers into giving up that title.
I have called my kids a pack of monkeys many times…..
What’s the big deal?
Is this the kind of changes Obama plans on bringing us?

hope, change, hate?,
Those just don’t seem to go together unless you meant I hope my hate change(s).
Really, the things people waste their hatred on is incredible. THIS IS NOT REAL, IT’S POLITICS!
What about the divisive hateful McCain campaign? I don’t see the lovely Hillary Clinton condoning that. Not even with a wink and a nod.
Learn from your hero, grace counts!

Nobody cares about Ken Adelman.
Many millions of Americans care about Colin Powell though.
Powell dealt McCain, Palin and the GOP a blow they’ll not recover from before Election Day. Because he analyzed, argumented and had it all right.

hope change hate I guess you missed when Mccains campaign said he raised almost as much as Obama in july something like 26 million and 47 mil. in august and got 10 mil the days after the convention the 87 million is what he got from public finc. he was entitled to Obama chose not to he broke NO laws or rules only fund raising records for dollars and number of doners

Just Thinking: Did you notice the story that ABC and company ran with I think it went the whole day on their website. It was about some guy who put out a coupon or something that had Obama on it with the picture of chicken and watermellon and koolaid and the Obama attack dogs and liberal blogers were up in arms about how he was sterotyping blacks. I don’t have a problem with their depiction but not a word was said when JT described the food that Mr. Obama and friends ordered in NC this weekend. According to JT it included chicken, collard greens. Well if some one else had described the menu then they would be labeled a racist.

Don,
I hope your anger will not prevent you from seeing Obama when he i in your fair state.
Aloha.

B.O.B. Let me do a little research so I can answer with facts instead of opinion on the Clinton years and the 90% voting with Bush. I will say that yes Bush has made mistakes as have all Presidents. When confronted with the juggernaut of the democrats the last 2 years especially in their effort to get the white house it wouldn’t have mattered who was the republican president and what he would have done it would have been wrong. Bush had a approval rating of 38% and I agree it wasn’t good. The democratic congress had an approval rating of single digits for awhile and still is less than Bush.
I will do more research and look for you tomorrow.

David Brooks caught the fungus. There’s no hope for him. Soon his charade as conservative commentator will be obvious to even the dullest tool and he will have to reinvent himself as an enlightened left of center talking head. Maybe Mark Shields, who is getting a little long in the tooth, will cede his chair on Lehrer’s show to Brooks and then they can get a real conservative to play Brooks’ role. The good news is that Brooks will not have to worry about catching the fungus from Shields.

Powell dealt McCain, Palin and the GOP a blow they’ll not recover from before Election Day. Because he analyzed, argumented and had it all right.
Unfortunately many will simply look at color and decide that was really the reason. This is the first candidate to run for president that is black. Do you not think that most if not all blacks will support him for that reason alone? I have seen in North Carolina Obama campaigners who were black only asking blacks instead of all if they were registered to vote. I think most blacks will vote for Obama, whites will be mixed. Who does that make a racist, the white man???????

2012 Republican ticket:
Palin & Bobby Jindal
running on the ‘we have the real god and the real americans’ platform. political rally’s will consist of speaking in tongues, exorcisms with special witch hunts.

a SARAH PALIN / MICHELE BACHMANN ticket…
just think of it…
it would leave even the pundits speechless…
so -
WHAT A GREAT IDEA!
WHAT A BRIGHT FUTURE FOR THE GOP!

One of my problems is the lead up to the actual campaign. McCain basically breezed through the primaries with a party he had definately pissed off during the years as senator. The democrats waged a battle royal all the way through. Hillary and Dean and whoever supporters said that Obama wasn’t the man to lead the country etc etc. Then because he needs the votes of Hillarys supporters he makes a deal to pay off the 13 million she owes if she campaigns for Obama. How does that lead to proper voting if Hillary is only doing it for the money????? Gets confusing doesn’t it???

evem as a dem. jindal would have been my pick this time around for mccain.

Why do you ignore Warren Harding?

helping to retire your opponents debt did not start with obama and clinton.
it has been common practice for many years.
i don’t like it, it just makes you wonder. well, what was all of that about?
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and germaine,
palin/michelle b.? would have a better chance of winning the moon, than the wh.
michelle b. will probally have some type of slap on the hand. and i would not be suprised if this is not the beginning of the end of her political career. I have never cared much for chris matthews, and even less now
(sorry, still a little bitterness from the hillary campaign) but he had her stitched up every way.
she would have been better to just pretend she could not hear him, and give a deer in the headlight look.
no cred. to her at all.

OxyCon,
I am going to make a statement that no one wants to admit. THE SURGE WILL EVENTUALLY FAIL. All you have to do is look at history and realize that when a superior military force invades a country and try to impose their own brand of socio-political agenda, it is doomed to eventually fail the moment that military force leave. We may be more concerned about saving face than wether there is failure for waging an illegal war (that’s another matter).
Futhermore, Al Qaeda was never in Iraq (now they are thanks to the US army) and they never would have been because Sadam hated Al Qaeda and would not have anything to do with them… look it up! So your rehtoric does not hold water. Get the US boys out of there and let these brigands settle their own affairs. Unfortunately, don’t worry you’ll have plenty of dead Americans to celebrate as war heroes, because Senator Obama will not be able to let them leave until we secure our supply of oil and move to an alternative energy source and that will take another ten years. We have been put on this roller coaster and we have to ride it out until the end ot he course.

Prometheus
from what I’ve read another possible reason for the ‘surge’ facing future difficulties, is that when the great amounts of monies (bribes) stop being paid out to the various sides, there will be no incentive to continue to ‘get along’ when US troops are pulled out of the urban areas.
we can only hope that Obama will get our troops out of Iraq ASAP…….

we can only hope that Obama will get our troops out of Iraq ASAP…….
Posted by: Blue | Oct 21, 2008 12:33:09 AM
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Oh he would…… just before he sent them all into Afghanistan!

russell 11:12:38 You are so right. Last month it was the Missouri truth squad. I believe Claire McCaskill instigated this. A reporter from channel 4 broke the story that St. Louis prosecutor Jennifer Joyce and county prosecutor Bob McCullough(spelling?)-both Democrats-had formed a group including other law enforcement officials throughout Missouri to seek out people they thought were spreading lies about Obama. When asked if they would be interested in someone’s bumper sticker about Obama the answer was yes. The reporter later “revised” his story to the disbelief of a local radio talk show host who had the clips. This is scary stuff.

GOP RIP -
Michelle Bachman’s now denying that she questioned Obama’s patriotism or asked the media to investigate the Congress to identify “anti-American” members. Those of us who saw say these things must have been experiencing some kind of mass hallucination.
It’s kind of like Palin being gratified that she’d not been found guilty of ethics violations after she’d been found guilty of ethics violations.
As the Red Queen said in Alice in Wonderland, “I believe at least six impossible things before breakfast.”

Cynthia McKinney is the Green Party candidate. Any coverage of her, ABC?

Raven,for what honestly…

All Neo-Cons should vote for Obama. They believe in a New World Order and Obama is their best hope of that.

I find it so incredibly telling that some profess Obama to be part of some “New World Order” or that he’s tied to Neo-Cons (another Right-Wing reverse psychology smear). The TRUTH is that the ship is sinking and the rats are trying to get a seat on the life raft called Obama. There’s no great mystery here. Obama equals a paradigm shift in governance. Those in the far Right that see it coming are trying not to look like they’ve got excrement all over them.

I’ve noticed Obama’s position changing from Dove to Hawk. That is essentially all I have to say. Draw your own conclusions. As for abandoning McCain, Adelman is not a conservative. A neo-con is not a conservative. A neo-con is a hawkish, foreign interventionist, liberal interested in empire. Not a conservative at all.

Obama genuflecting at AIPAC over invading Iran gave Adelman the “necessary” qualifications he looks for in a presidential candidate.
Simple, and as sinister, as that.

1,100+ murders just in Juarez alone this year so far… More than all Iraq soldier casualties in 2007.
Iraq? I’m terrified of armed Mexicans.
And McCain “says” he’ll secure the border before revamping immigration, whereas Barky favors legalizing most illegal aliens…
Meanwhile, not a peep about “immigration” from either candidate on the campaign trail.
I’m just sayin’…