Nevermind

Wana bet obama lies about cutting taxes?

The erratic double-talk express. McCain/Palin

Once again the McCain team isn’t on the same page. Not even the same book.
McCain’s has more positions than the Kama Sutra.

oy
this election is a joke
you have to have complete blinders on and be completely ignorant to the mistakes you made in 2000 and 2004
to make such an overwhelmingly stupid mistake again.
send John mcCain back to the Senate (if he changes his campaign this week)
and send sarah palin back to …
…somewhere…Alaska I guess…they are going to throw her out anyway.

I Say nevermind to McCain

Obama is going to lay out his economic rescue plan for the middle class in Ohio today?! Oh, that is a joke. How come he keeps promising these things and then all we hear is that we ‘must do this and we must do that’… lots of lofty dreams and ideas and just the things we want to hear… like how much better our finances will be with his ‘plan’. He to this day, has not had a real plan. He says he’s going to have one and then when you don’t really get one, we’re supposed to just figure he really does have one up his sleeve somewhere. The guy is a joke. If he gets elected, I know where I’m going to be. I’ll be shutting down my business and be the first one in the welfare line. It sounds like it will be a much better deal.

As it becomes clearer that Obama is going to win, the worse our economy gets. All of the capital is being taken out of the country. Some would personify the event and say that the capital is fleeing. No smart money knows a hole when it sees it.

Yeah, Obama will be cutting taxes while he tells every employer that they must now cover health care for other people, their employees. That used to be a benefit and perk for employers to retain employees. Now it will be mandated. That will result, at least at my business, with job loss because I can’t afford to pay the employees and cover their personal health care insurance. NOR should it be my responsibility as an employer to do so. Who made that insane rule up? It doesn’t even make logical sense and it is most unfair, but people buy into it blindly because in the past businesses used it as an added benefit. The welfare lines will just get longer is all. Not sure what he’s trying to accomplish.

Obama before the first vote in the house didn’t call any house members.
McCain was on the phone the whole time.
Obama is erratic, he said call me if you need me.
First Obama said he wouldn’t even go back to the senate to vote.
In Iowa Obama told a voter he was for taxes on everyone in social security then he flip flopped.
Obama is erratic.
Obama’s position on DC gun ban is ERRATIC.
Obama is a smoker who is erratic.
Obama did drugs he is erratic.
Obama calls his moral compass father pfleger Obama is erratic.

ohg rea tone: In another post I talked about how Obama repeats and repeats and repeats the same words until everyone thinks it is the ‘truth’. I’ve noticed it with the word ‘erratic’. I’ve seen it in so many posts since he first said it, it’s unbelievable. Would you have really thought this on your own, and used that exact word? You may say you would have, but I seriously would doubt it. pretty scary stuff

did you see Jim Kramer
don’t believe the idiots on here
it is about who has the best level headed logical cogent plan and team going forward.
Mccain has the same plan from the last 8 years… there is no spinning that…
he also has the same team that dismantled the security architecture that a capitalist democracy and it’s market HAS to have…
literally writing his plans.
in other words…Obama helps doesn’t hurt.
Don’t believe the same lies that they tricked you with for the last 8 years.

mudge007. what is your point about the article? The guy is a nut and can’t stand either Obama nor McCain. Is the point that there is a nut on the loose, or what? Knowing how people look for things to support their arguments, you may have ‘missed’ the part about the guy not liking McCain either. Open your eyes, listen, and learn. Don’t just listen to those that agree with you or support your arguments. How will you really learn anything??

Obama confuses action with being erratic. Obama has done no action. Some one who actually does things looks like chaos to him.
If you have a real problem that needs to be solved by some action, who would you go to for help?

Problem is media expose more about Obama promise of economic, even there is no detail of it.
Whatever economic proporsal Mccain propose, media bias will more interested to cover Mccain about being racicst.

This Blog has become a posting site for conspiracy driven, policy ignorant neo-cons.

I am like most of american didn’t like this $700 billion bail-out, now Pelosi asks more.
If obama for change, why he is in Bush side? He is not for change. Obama just a puppet of democratic party.
Obama has been said McCain is the same with Bush, but morelike Obama the one who has been voted along Bush said.

McCain has no plan for the economy, but he’ll be sure to smear Obama (and then feign innocence).

What is Mccains Economic Message I havent heard anything hes too busy talking about obama,What is Mccains policy on Education I havent heard anything hes too busy talking about Obama, What is Mccains policy on Healthcare I do know this he will TAX our healthcare Benefits that we get through our Employer as if it were income and under Mccains healthcare plan we may lose our benifits that we get through our employer then we have to go out in the market in which it will be deregulated under Mccain and buy our healthcare with his 5000 tax credit that we will not see but the insurance companies will, A health Insurance plan for a family cost more then 5000 a year my friends MCCAINS HEALTH CARE POLICY IS DEADLY

Jill,
The Washington Times is not a legitimate news source.
Obama appeared with Odinga to encourage people to get tested for AIDS, not to campaign for him.

McCain’s economic plans change every other day. He is hoping one day he says something right and Poof! His campaign turns around. Not going to happen. McCain lost my vote when he made the reckless decision to put Palin on the ticket. Palin is not qualified to hold the 2nd highest position in the country – on top of that – now she has ethics violations – poor judgement McCain..Your choice for Palin and the short term gain has lost you the white house.

I am so tired of hearing about Ayers and not hearing about the economy, foreign policy, etc. For those interested in the truth, Politifact did an in depth look at McCain’s Ayers/Obama atacks.
They served on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge together.
Here is Politifact’s conclusion posted today:
In short, this was a mainstream foundation funded by a mainstream, Republican business leader and led by an overwhelmingly mainstream, civic-minded group of individuals. Ayers’ involvement in its inception and on an advisory committee do not make it radical – nor does the funding of programs involving the United Nations and African-American studies.
This attack is false, but it’s more than that – it’s malicious. It unfairly tars not just Obama, but all the other prominent, well-respected Chicagoans who also volunteered their time to the foundation. They came from all walks of life and all political backgrounds, and there’s ample evidence their mission was nothing more than improving ailing public schools in Chicago. Yet in the heat of a political campaign they have been accused of financing radicalism. That’s Pants on Fire wrong.

Why does the right think all Muslims are terriost? Not that Senator Obama is Muslim. But why do you belive all Muslims are terriost do you know we have alot of WHITE people in america who pratice the Muslim faith I hardly think there terriost! can someone please explain?

Yet another display of confusion/disorganization/turmoil within the McCain campaign. How can voters have confidence in McCain if he cannot demonstrate stability; soundness of judgment; strong leadership within his campaign? It is not clear as to who is running his dog and pony show?.
McCain’s campaign messages are all over the political map except where it needs to be: the economy.

.Americans voted for a change and we got a leader in the House, Nancy Pelosi, who has to be the worst person ever to serve in such a position. Nothing has been accomplished since she has takened the lead in Congress except to set up committees to determine who took steriod shots while playing professional baseball and to convince her party to rebuke anything coming from the Replublican party regardless of how good it is. She was determined to let the world know the power was now in her hands and to control…..not the President’s…..and we got change. Now we are once again being told that we want change from a liberal candidate, Obama. Just how much change can we all withstand based on the leadership on the Democratic U.S. Congress, which has had the power to make improvements within the past 2 years and failed to do so.

And THIS is why Obama’s campaign is running ads calling McCain “LIES.” That’s not a smear attack, it’s not character assassination – it’s descriptive of him and his shoddy FRIENDS.
Obama Once Confessed That He Is A Radical – In his book “Dreams from my Father”, Obama confesses that he harbors the same negative racial stereotypes as Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his mentor for 20 years. On pages 198 to 204, Obama says that black nationalism, a steady attack on the white race would be justified if it could deliver. On page 100, Obama says he went out of his way to choose Marxist professors as his friends. Obama wrote: “To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully, the more politically active black students, the foreign students, the Chicanos, the Marxist professors and punk rock performance poets.”

Angie
Because fear and ignorance trumps tolerance and acceptance every time.
Sad, isn’t it? What you don’t understand must be feared. What is different from you must be feared.

greymatter: “You know, for those of you who don’t agree with Obama, I mean, wouldn’t it be reassuring that the guy seems to at least be calm and steady and knows what he’s doing?”
Come on. The reason it appears as if Obama is calm and steady is because he doesn’t have to do ANYthing – and so he hasn’t. He hasn’t come out with any great plans, except that he has made it clear he wants to socialize America. The economy ‘hit’ was a gift in his pocket. He has done nothing, nothing but ride the wave. Where is his detailed plan for the economy that he has promised since the days before the bailout was announced??? Open your eyes man. Look for the goods. He has accomplished and/or delivered nothing now, nor in his lifetime, for us. McCain is not able to question anything about Obama or Obama and his camp call it racism. Even though, if Obama was white, it would be fair game. It’s all bs and smoke and mirrors to tie McCain’s hands. And you know I’m right if you’d just consider that idea for a minute.

It seems like the race issue has posed its ugly head again among the Obama MSM surrogates.
It’s their weak defense against dealing with the real issues as to why many voters won’t support Obama.
They don’t think Ayers should be an issue. Certainly not. Just because Obama’s Education Advisor Darling-Hammond’s blue-print for education is endorsed by Ayers. And she wrote a chapter in a book co-edited by Ayers. Certainly not. Don’t bring up anything relevant to character. And just because Obama sat in a pew with his family and listened to Rev Wright’s sermons railing against whites and jews. Certainly not. And Obama’s relationship with “the fixer” convicted felon Rezko. Certainly not. And then there’s campaigning for the ruthless Odinga and helping him strategize his campaign last year. Certainly not. And his Pakistani classmates now his bundlers, and al Mansour who handled collection for Obama’s “Harvard Tuition Fundraising” and Auchi (Saddam Hussein arms dealer) and Alsammarae, and Exelon and Obama’s “blind trust” and his Acorn trainer experience and his $800,000 to Acorn and shall I go on? Certainly these can’t be the reasons we won’t vote for Obama. So it must be because of race.
Where is the MSM’s conscience? How can they do this to America, our beloved country?
They’re too busy savaging McCain, who turns out to have even more integrity than I thought he had. Not to mention the villifying and misogyny of Palin.
I and I’m sure others, will never be able to believe the MSM again. I will not waste my time reading or listening to their agenda driven drivel. They have become absolutely useless.

ANY “economic plan” from any candidate means nothing, at this point.
A reason to beware of closet Stalinist Obama, however, is that all the pandering to the “middle class” ignores the fact that there are about a zillion POOR people — including a huge number of those literally “homeless” — in this country, whose existence is not so much as noted by EITHER corporate nominee.
That the hijacked Democrats aren’t even MENTIONING the UN-”middle class” — including many “urban” blacks — for whom the doubling of prices is most significant, is chilling: meanwhile, the price of heating oil is projected to increase by another 25%.
When survival crime makes life itself iffy for all but the body-guarded rich and the political class, what do you suppose they intend to do??

msa123,
Obama did not cry racism. But the kind of attacks McCain are using recently smack of racial undertones and negative stereotypes of Muslim and Middle-Eastern sounding name- riding on the impressions of terrorists formed from 9/11.
Look, Obama HAS come out with very detailed plans on the economy and has outlined them several times in his speeches. His website contains far more specs then McCain on it. Have you actually watched his speeches before?
I have watched both candidate’s speeches. McCain and Palin keep saying how they’re going to “shake up Washington” and reform, reform, reform, but never tell me EXACTLY HOW. Now, they spend most of their speeches tearing down their opponent instead of sharing their proposals.

what the hell is going on?
McCain thinks the fundamentals of the economy are strong. But, actually, a few hours later, he claims we are in a deep crisis.
McCain announces some sort of home mortgage plan during the debate. Then, alters it the next day.
Now, he is going to announce an Economic Plan. And, oops, he’s not.
This is just in the past 2-3 weeks! What the hell is this guy doing? Forget erratic. I think he may truly be clueless on the economy. If he had a sit down interview and we spent 15 minutes on the economy, would he have depth in his answers beyond Question #2? Palin can’t make it past Question #1 and McCain may only be one step ahead of her.
Yikes! At least she can deliver a speech. McCain can’t even do that. I can’t even tell who is holding who back on this McCain/Palin ticket. All I know is that I don’t want these dead-weights holding America back for the next 4 years. We’ve tried the beer-pal for the last 8… let’s try someone who can think on their feet and seems thoughtful and steady.

greymatter:
“Obama did not cry racism. ” That is just not true. The very first thing he said was, ‘if i am not elected it will not be because of race but because people don’t agree with my ideology’. He brought the word up. Then his minister of 20 yrs brought the word up. His followers on these blogs call people whitey if they don’t like Obama. Open your eyes dude.
“Look, Obama HAS come out with very detailed plans on the economy and has outlined them several times in his speeches.” He outlines nothing. He just talks of ideals and dreams of this and that. He tells you what you want to hear. Period.
“Have you actually watched his speeches before?” I have watched only a few because I have a hard time stomaching such an arrogant man. I felt the same way about Gore. But not about Clinton, so it’s not a party thing. I hate arrogance, and Obama is the epitomy of it. Arrogance of that magnitude, is scary. You can talk all of the intelligent talk in the world and argue about someone, but if that someone is arrogant and holier than thou and admits no wrongdoing of any sort, watch out.

NAT TURNER, DONT WORRY, I WANT A PIECE OF THE PIE. WOULD’NT YOU

You blind Zero-bama supporters can use all means to blame George W. Bush for the misery that you have suffered (although His Nothingness claimed the Bush and Clinton administrations are the same), but you failed to see that it was caused by an unfit president. For correcting that wrong, you blindly support yet another unfit person, His Nothingness, to be your president.
Economy has periodic up and downs. The question is what preventive methods a President uses, in this case a Presidential Candidate proposes to use based on his judgment, to prevent a 50% market crash.
Zero-bama’s approach is to give you $600 bucks, and promising you to give you yet another $1000 bucks if you elect him.
The reason that Zero-bama is directly responsible, not that he caused it, for the market crash is because congressional leaders have failed to act properly because they have decided to do anything to back up this phony as their choice of Presidential candidate of the democratic party, long ago before the primaries started.
Consequently, they promoted Zero-bama’s cash giveaways, which happened to be a thing that George W. Bush supported. They ignored, dismissed, and ridiculed the competing solution by his then opponents, including Hillary Clinton, to target the real problem in Banking and Mortgage lending, which is generally recognized today.
If Zero-bama had the correct judgment or had the intelligence to understand the real problems of the economy, and to put his country first rather than giving voters sweeteners to buy their votes (as he is doing now in promising you $1000 bucks if you vote for him), it might just have helped the down-fall of US Banks and Mortgage lenders that let to the market crash, and 50% less in your retirement accounts.
If you are too young to have retirement accounts, of course you do not see nor need to understand all of these complicated stuff. However, if your father is among those 95% that Zero-bama is trying to deceive, you won’t be expecting to get a new PlayStation for Christmas. You might be happy to know that your dad is not retiring any time soon either.

HP Boston
You have claimed to be a Democrat and other times a republican!
Can you please be honest and pick one story and stick to it ?

Barack Obama, D-Ill., has decided he will give a speech today in Toledo, Ohio, in which he will, according to his campaign, lay out an “economic rescue plan for the middle class.”
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Betya for $1000 this phony will promise to give you yet another $1000 bucks if you vote for him. His money giveaways has been his solution for the middle class since last November. Yet, look at what you got for that first $600 bucks.

blah blah blah is that better.

More eratic behavour from mccain palin
Why no new ideas ?
Why no ideas at all but bush’s falied ones ?

HP Boston
You have claimed to be a Democrat and other times a republican!
Can you please be honest and pick one story and stick to it ?
Posted by: Kellie | Oct 13, 2008 11:11:47 AM
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Never have I said I am a repub…I am an ex dem, now indie voting for McCAIN/PALIN! PUMA POWER!

Ah….geevil…desperate much?
hang on to your hat…because the Obama campaign broke records on fundraising last month and they are sinking most of their money into going on the attack regarding Republican voter suppression…
Sorry to disappoint you…but THAT kind of fraud is REAL…and soon to be publicized.

“look at what you got for that first $600 bucks.”

Hmmm…is this yet another example of McCain’s erractic, and confused leadership? Wait, I guess I can’t say that out loud since Sen. McCain is older and I must be talking about his age and not his decisionmaking.

geevill,
Obama isn’t on very good terms with Jackson.
WHAT crony?

“Why are you always so angry ?”

The Republicans are using the same playbook with ACORN that they used in 1960 against JFK. The ACORN story provides them cover to their purging of thousands of legitimate voters of of the rolls. It’s another distraction.

Belle Starr,
If you’re looking for mobs, look no further then McCain and Palin’s recent rallies.
Obama and Biden have been the most inspiring ticket I have seen. They work well together, they actually seem to LIKE each other. McCain and Palin seem so stiff sometimes. I watched the video of the behind-the-scenes of the DNC at Denver. It was heartwarming, Obama and Biden were real.
It isn’t all that great if you vote for McCain more becaue “the other guy’s bad” rather then, “McCain has great policies.”

msa123 – The tracking polls for Gore/Bush during THIS week in 2000 were:
Bush 48% – Gore 43%

October 9, 2000
Web posted at: 5:05 p.m. EDT (2105 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush maintains his 8 point lead over his Democratic rival, Vice President Al Gore, in Monday’s CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll.

Msa- I get the point, but where did Tapper get his information?

paige: I think he must have made it up. At least that’s the claim of all Obama backers every time some facts appear that aren’t necessarily in his favor. Or maybe it’s a right wing conspiracy to smear Obama. Who knows.

“If you’re looking for mobs … “

The founder of the conservative Blog, RedState, could not bring himself to vote for McCain and wrote in Gov. Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana.

A review of Obama’s voting record in Illinois and in the U.S. Senate – where he is identified as the most liberal Senator – is evidence of his continuing support of the socialist goals he trained his ACORN followers to pursue.
The “change” he so desperately seeks is to change America from a nation that thrives on capitalism, free-markets, private property, and individual freedom, to a socialist nation in which government sets wages, provides housing, manages markets, and dictates to every individual what may, and may not, be done.
“The old phrase, “a man of high ideals but no principles,” is one that applies all too painfully to Barack Obama today. His words expressing lofty ideals may appeal to the gullible but his long history of having no principles makes him a danger of the first magnitude in the White House. ”
~Thomas Sowell

Obama has passed the Ayers/Rezko test. He’s their front man because he knows how to work the crowd. And they made a very wise choice. All you have to do is to connect the dots. Remember those games from childhood? Did Obama grow up in Chicago? No. Why Chicago? Once there, why so many ties to radicals? So many. Too many. Why ACORN? Why Rev. Wright? Please show me what he has done for America outside of his socialist style agenda.

No one in the media has even thought to ask Obama how he’s going to give a tax break to the 40% of Americans who don’t pay taxes now.
It’s called WELFARE.
It’s called ANOTHER ENTITLEMENT.
If enacted it will grow like a cancer until it destroys the country.
We are soon to reach a point at which those who produce are completely at the mercy of those who do not produce- they will outnumber and outvote us soon.
We will be the new slaves.
And bless his heart, Barack could care less.

Charles Krauthammer is a syndicated columnist based in Washington.
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Charles Krauthammer has been objective in his writings. He consistently takes hardcore conservative positions on everything and therefore has an agenda just like William Kristol.

Obama is farther to the left than any other member of his party, including Teddy Kennedy. BUT, Obama has an answer for everybody, and a nice smile. People thinks it’s progressive and cultural to vote for the ‘change’ he represents. Since when did people in this country want a socialized country?? Since Obama said it will put more money in people’s pockets? Since when has “spreading the wealth around” i.e. welfare worked in the past? Is that why so many still live in projects that should have been condemned years ago? Oh, but Obama’s plan will WORK, right? Prove that it will. Show a time in history when socialism worked. Any country will do. I agree there is no perfect world or perfect solution… capitalism with no regulation whatsoever has proven it doesn’t work. But the answer is not pure socialism… and everyone knows… that is just what Obama’s agenda is.

indy – your quote: “Charles Krauthammer has not been objective in his writings. He consistently takes hardcore conservative positions on everything and therefore has an agenda just like William Kristol.”
That’s just not true. i.e. this from wiki:
Krauthammer is generally considered a conservative.However, on domestic issues, Krauthammer is a supporter of legalized abortion;an opponent of the death penalty; an intelligent design critic and an advocate for the scientific consensus on evolution, calling the religion-science controversy a “false conflict; a supporter of embryonic stem cell research (involving embryos discarded by fertility clinics) and a longtime advocate of radically higher energy taxes to induce conservation.Meg Greenfield, editorial page editor for The Washington Post who edited Krauthammer’s columns for 15 years, called his weekly column “independent and hard to peg politically. It’s a very tough column. There’s no ‘trendy’ in it.”
I’d hardly call him hard core conservative. You just think that if one questions Obama they’re hard core conservative, racist, whatever. It’s just people THINKING vs. taking a man at his word. Actions and words are two very different things. Didn’t your mother ever teach you that??

“and in the U.S. Senate – where he is identified as the most liberal Senator ”
I love right wingers repeat this.
Could you tell me on what basis is Obama the most liberal Senator?
(I know the answer, I want to see if the lemmings do as well)

Free Market Fundamentalism, Like Communism, is a false ideology. The recent financial crisis has established the dangers of free market fundamentalism of the sort worshipped by McCain and his friends. To McCain’s credit, he has realized that in order to avoid a crisis that would make the Great Depression look like a walk in tha park, the Government needs to rescue the homeowners and save the market from collapsing. Although I have many problems with McCane, this is one thing he is right about (and sure enough, the free market fundamentalists are up in arms!)