New McCain TV Ad Uses Biden’s ‘Rhetorical Flourishes’ Against Obama

My whole family gathered last night and we all came to the same conclusion that Mr. McCain is all negative. We are all going to be voting for Mr. Obama, and his latest republican endorsements come to show the remorse these republicans feel.
Texas for Mr. Obama 08

It’s is sad thing: I’ve started to despise John McCain.
For his negativity, his dirty attacks, his neglect of the middle classes in this crucial campaign.
I vote for him when he ran against Bush in the 2000 primaries.
Now I want Obama to become our President.

On the day Obama leaves the trail to be at his gravely ill grandmother’s side.
Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?

Over a month ago, Obama told his supporters to “get in their faces” but did the media report it? Of course not. Had McCain said the same thing, it would have been reported that he was “inciting violence.”
Even CNN has now admitted that Biden’s perpetual “loose lips” are treated differently than if Sarah Palin had made these same comments about a potential “international crisis.”
And yet…calling attention to these issues is considered “negative”…
Wow.Just.Wow.
I’m still trying to figure out how raising taxes on anyone anywhere is going to lower prices on the things we purchase everyday.

lieberman said the same thing

Every president has been tested at one time or another. Does McCain think he’s so much above it all that he wouldn’t be??? Oh please!!! he’s a mean old codger.

Oh please…we all hope that Obama’s grandmother gets well. But spare us the “have you no decency” crap.
McCain ran a very nice ad on the night of Obama’s acceptance speech at his convention complementing the historic nature of his candidacy. What did Obama do on the night of McCain’s speech? Schedule an interview on the most watched cable news program–Bill O’Reilly. Couldn’t suspend his campaign during his opponents convention as has been tradition for decades. So…decency? yeah.
That cuts both ways. Obama talks good smack. He just has a willing propaganda media willing to spread his crap to an class-envy hungry audience.
We’re about to get a whole heap of the Obama special spread the wealth fun for the next four years….hope our ailing economy can handle it.

Every new President is tested. Happened to FDR, DDE, JFK, GHWB, WJC, and GWB. It’ll happen to whomever is elected in November.
Do any of these Robocalls transmit any positive message about what McCain’s actually for?

This is all nice and well BUT WHAT DOES IT DO FOR MY KITCHEN TABLE .
OH McCAIN!!! I AM WAITING .
I GUESS YOU DONT HAVE ANY ANSWER
easy vote to the person who wants to talk ISSUES.
Obama / Biden 08

Hey Pamp205
What will Obama do if he is tested:
Um ehh Umm I ohh um – why um did umm you go and um do that um for? Um Please um say that em your umm sorry.
Clinton was never tested – because other countries new Bill Clinton isn’t weak.
But we now for sure the “Community Orgainizer from Chicago is weaker than water.

McCain – stop treating the American People like their stupid. Bush and your party are leaving the U.S. much worse than they found it. Obama Biden are telling the truth. We need to be prepared and Obama is read.

“KUDOS TO YOU”
MY STENTIMENTS EXACTLY
Dear Leader Chairman Maubama

stop waiting for the govt for a handout and let govt do it’s job of protecting the country.
a recession we can afford…..
an obama win guarantees a DEPRESSION.
PRAIRIE FIRE <——a must read !

Why do you think foreign countries like and approve of Obama? They know he will be a deer in headlights when handling crises. Go back and research the comment he made about the invasion of Georgia by Russia. A joke pertaining to Alabama.
We need MCCAIN; who takes the world issues more seriously and we need someone who is prepared and ready on day 1. McCain is NOT BUSH he will call senators and congress out if they are not progressing the country towards fiscal responsibility and through economic growth. This congress and senate is democratic controlled and they have the worst approval record of actually trying to work together and get what we need done. MCCAIN will hold them responsible and accountable to the American people. Right now what we have is a Democratic party who will only work when they can make themselves look good with a President of their party.

derik, you were going to vote Obama anyway. I will vote McCain, because I am so sick of the media bringing up every thing negative about him and never saying any of the bad about Obama, Acorn, Muslem,and more, Obama said he thought every American should serve in the armed forces, but yet he never served. What’s with that.

WAKE UP AMERICANS!
Pennsylvania Democrat Philip J. Berg, who filed a lawsuit demanding Sen. Barack Obama present proof of his American citizenship, now says that by failing to respond Obama has legally “admitted” to the lawsuit’s accusations, including the charge that the Democratic candidate was born in Mombosa, Kenya.
As WND reported, Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court in August, alleging Obama is not a natural-born citizen and is thus ineligible to serve as president of the United States. Though Obama has posted an image of a Hawaii birth certificate online, Berg demands that the court verify the original document, which the Obama campaign has not provided.
Now Berg cites Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter.
Since Obama has only filed motions to dismiss and has not actually answered the charges in the lawsuit, Berg claims, according to Rule 36, Obama has legally admitted he is not a natural-born citizen.
Now Berg is asking the court for a formal declaration of Obama’s admission and asking the Democratic National Committee for another presidential candidate.
In a statement released today, Berg argues that he filed Requests for Admissions on Sept. 15, meaning Obama had until Oct. 15 to answer or face the consequences of Rule 36.
“Obama and the DNC ‘admitted,’ by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit,” Berg’s statement reads. “Obama is ‘not qualified’ to be president and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for president and the DNC shall substitute a qualified candidate.”

Last I Knew Mccain has not been President, when and Where was he tested? In the Senate, bottom line Mccain you will be Tested if you become President but the way you would react is SCARY VERY ERRATIC!

The world IS going to test Obama. See, there’s this global economic freakout going on — maybe you’ve heard of it? Probably not since McCain and Jake Tapper don’t like to talk about anything but “rhetorical flourishes” and character issues.
I find it pretty hilarious that McCain’s campaign would suggest that the mere act of putting McCain in office would solve calm the World’s problems. He’d better hope as much.

Bud says “The truth is John McCain is testy, not tested.”
Wow, that is a clever line. Listen Obama has already won. It is like ACORN adding more bogus registrations to cover the over count in the tampered voting machines – what is the point. The rebate checks for the 95% of Americans (the good Americans)has bought the election. No need to come up with witty one liners – it is a done deal.
Lets work on how we are going to change this country. There is a lot of talk of spreading the wealth. Lets get past that and get into spreading the property. I have an old car and would really like a new one.

dilligaf: We are awake… that is why we are voting for Obama. You guys need to stop napping and take a hard look at the policies. McCain will finish us off for sure and it will not take him 6 months to do it. He is Bush, he just wants the glory of being called a President and nothing more.

barbara gooch: Good reason to vote for someone, as your economy and life you once knew goes down the drain because of McCains past voting. 90% of the time for Bush Policies.

I am glad some one brought up Jay Z – a true American. Lets have him in teh cabinet as Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Raines bought first dibbs as Secretary of the Treasury. Could not be worse than Paulsen (this will really work).
McCain – gack. He pushed for the immigration bill and the campaign finance reform. What is up with that?

“On the other hand, we have critical infrastructure work to do which is vital to our safety. Basic road and bridge maintenance for example. This does create jobs. However, a stimulus package of any kind on day one is a bad idea. The first order of business is budget review to tighten the belt. Then some judicious borrowing for critical tasks.
McCain has the right idea here. Obama is buying an election.”
Spot on Len.

Someone making over $250,000 a year net income can afford a higher tax rate. Just how much money do you need to live “comfortably”? Come on, that’s pretty good money. You won’t have all your money taken away, don’t be so reactinary. You just pay a bit more in taxes. Sounds fair to me. But right now, people making a whole lot less than that are taxed more than they should be. Obama isn’t going to “give your money away.” Let’s not be stupid, okay?

“…Phil Berg….he loves conspiracy theories…”
Yeah, just like ACORN and Obama.
All of the hundreds of thousands of fraudulent and non-existant voters on their voter registration cards in key battleground states is nothing but a GOP plot.
You betcha….

“Obama is a natural born citizen. ”
Of which country, that is the question.

“geecee: Two things on your comments… One: Obama will not raise their taxes any higher than what Clinton had them when he left office. Bush got into office and raised ours and dropped theirs. Now look at us.”
Have you been watching the markets, or do you live in a bubble? Now is not the time to raise anyone’s taxes. We need to create jobs, we don’t need $500 stimilus checks.

Phil Berg is also a 9/11 truther. He loves conspiracy theories.
Obama is a natural born citizen.
Posted by: cincyr | Oct 24, 2008 11:17:56 AM
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This clown wants his 15 mins he is like joe the dummy,he believe 9/11 was a inside job , thats all you need to know about this nut .like Joe LIE_berman he will be KICK out of the party in the new year.
Story is the Obama camp wishing that the McCain camp fall for the trap and bring up Obama’s birth , They would be in for a RUDE and embarrassing awakening.
like anyone would run for 2 years and pursue highest office and not born here.
chalk this up under the guy who want to sue the dry cleaners.

geecee says “Someone making over $250,000 a year net income can afford a higher tax rate.”
and becky says “Two: the only stupid people on this site is people like …”
The real issue is whether or not we raise anyone’s taxes during a recession. FDR said no.
There is all of this talk of “spreading the wealth” and Obama rightfully took out the cluase that said that people who were not working will get a tax rebate. Like Jay Z we should talk about spreading the property. Maybe we could take luxury cars or maybe even property. I would like more than the crummy $500 check for my vote. I want a boat and maybe some lake front property. This is Chicago politics – we have to get with it.

becky there is no reason to vote for McCain. He works with Ted Kennedy and will be fine when this is over. Obama has bought and paid for this election. Look at the polls – Obama has won it.
No need to further bash Palin. She will be happy back in Alaska. We will be stuck with Pelosi, Reid, Barney Franks, and Chuck Schumer.

There have been many things Obama and Biden have said, that make it look like they really do not want in this anymore.
These comments by Biden, are pretty obvious and direct, and sincere.
First him telling America he forgot all he knew on foreign Relations.
He probabaly has been so remote from foreign relations, that he can honestly state he has no clue what is happening in the area today.
Now Confirming what most Americas already Thought. That America will be attacked if we elect Obama.
That was a well thought out statement.
Mark my words, shows Biden whole heartidly foresees that.
Not a gaff, not a misquote. Direct, Honest, Sincere Thought out statement and beleif.
Sure you can suck into the Obama koolaide and propaganda, and his spin on he meant this or he meant that.
Endoresments do not mean Squat, They are done to sway public opinion. They do not mean that person is going to vote Obama.
A newspaper does not get a vote, a Television does not get a vote. It is to sway people into voting for whom they want. Many of them do it for money and other things.
Peoples endoresment are the same, That does not mean when they get into a private voting booth, Who they will vote for.
It is true that 98% of the Blacks will vote for Obama, He has United The Black Community, and made promises to them beyond their dreams. Out of Solidatry, to make History and get motivate them.
A vast Majority of Democrats still do not want to see Obama as President. They will Choose the Best Interest of the nation over Party.
The man has ripped America apart. He has pitted American Against American.
He has pitted the poor against the rich.
The Blacks against the whites.
Obama has condones Hatred to be spread around. He has his followers beleiving if someone is not for him, then they are evil or racist. He sends them out to say anything against his opponents for reasons to not vote for them mostly speading lies and propaganda. he told them, “Do not say why I should be elected, Tell every one why my Opponet should not be elected.”
A man with a lousy Congressional record, a Horrible voting record, Who has spent most of his time and effort into running for the next office, than he done in any office he had.
Obama is a speech, a marketing and Advertising, mind maniputlation marathon.
Vote for America, Not obama

Sarah Palin speaks today:
Palin: I’m “Not Even Thinking About” Future Political Career.
lol shes funny!

Thank you Conerned in Oh– I was feeling abit unpatriotic making $80000/yr.

“Okay: $11,400 a week to do her make-up? And they were complaining about the Newsweek cover? This is no hockey mom. She’s America’s Next Top Super Model!”
That doesn’t even come close to the cost of one of Barry’s faux-Greek columns.

(cough) FDR said Yes to taxes and is generally credited with prolonging the depression – but easing current misery.

Princeton was requested to put a ‘restriction’ on distribution
of any copies of the thesis of Michelle Obama
Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:
‘There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black
community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize
all of my present and future resources to benefit the black
community first and foremost.’
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she’s first
lady that will elevate black over white in America ?
The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action
policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.
‘Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically
designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of
their enrollments.’

I am not a Republicrat. I plan to vote Bob Barr for President in 2008. As far as I am concerned, there isn’t a dimes worth of difference between McSame and Osama. But even so, we all need to see Barack’s original long form birth certificate like the one I have for myself and my son that reveals the birthing hospital, the doctor and his parents and their the residence. It is required to get the job of US President. I would also like to know why is there a birth certificate on file in Kenya for someone named Barack Hussein Obama II born the same day? Can someone show me a copy of that birth certificate? It concerns me that the headlines on the news papers in Kenya read Kenyan born Barack Obama to be US President. It seems that all we hear about Obama right now is the approved propoganda from the mainstream media, instead of the truth? But, seriously, we all need to see more investigative reporting and less editorializing on this subject, and less catnip for the media.

I don’t understand why people are still undecided! If you see this scenario – Palin as president, Phil Gramm as secretary of the Treasury, Sean Hannity as spokesperson, that should scare the guts and liver out of you now!!

Geez, McCain you just dont get it, WE DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ANYONE ELSE, let us know if your going to EVER get to the point. Your so positively useless and trying to put any blame on anyone else your not talking about being our next President and what a thrill for you it is, how much change your going to bring or just anyone else but your opponent. You are absolutely so caught up in mud slinging you have forgotten what your doing.. you dum bunny. Go away, you have lost, your going down and buh bye.

Biden is cocky and sick. American people are smart enough, we need a leader who has been tested, in a dangerous world, especially after 9/11.

TODAY:
Obama did not write an official thesis: students were not required to do so at the time, and what counted as a “thesis” was really a long seminar paper.
Obama wrote his for Prof. Baron’s American Foreign Policy class. A search has been launched for a copy of the paper, which was confirmed to have been on the topic of Soviet disarmament.
As yet Columbia has been unable to find a copy… Prof. Baron now retired in FL say he doesnt have a copy and “there is nothing in it which would worry or embarse Mr Obama”
Barack also wrote another paper on the North-South debate on trade.
I hope that answers your questions Today!

Jake,
Do you have any pull with the McCain campaign?
A friend is a make-up artist, and she says she’ll work for much less than the $11,400 a week Team McCain is paying for Sarah Palin’s make-up artist.
We know they are running low on cash and all, so she’s willing to work at a cut rate. Maybe $3K a week?
That way it won’t be so embarrasing for the McCain campaign to have its highest paid staffer be a Make-up Artist.
Of course, if the job involves doing the weekly message make-over then she might need some help. She can bring her brother, who is a plumber.

“This guy is an egotistical maniac playing on the emotions and feelings of Americans. ”
Obarnum and Biden circus: The greatest snowjob on Earth. Luckily there is a useful idiot born every minute.

There goes OLD man McCain – more FEAR MONGERING and HATE spewing from him. Mccain has become a very dishonable man, he has become a disgusting, desperate man and whe will regret it. He is too old tom get his reputation back so he will leave this earth being a dishonorable man, sad really
McCain/Palin = HATE TALK EXPRESS

McCain’s claim of “I’ve been tested” and projects himself sitting in the cockpit of his plane throughout the Cuban missle crisis is almost laughable. I’m sure JFK had him on the red phone getting his advise. McCain gets tested on the floor of the Senate and throws out some choice cuss words at a fellow Senator and then stomps off to his office. Yeah that is a real sign of his hot head in being ‘tested’. I’d say his biggest “test” is looking at ole face lift momma and being able to do so without laughing!

You know what is sad, McCain has nothing to go off of. So, he has had to resort to twisting peoples words to maked his campaign. The elections are less than two weeks away. If McCain thinks he can really make a come back, he is truly mistaken. He screwed himself when he brought on that Stupid women Sarah Palin to be his Vice presidential pick. At the begining it helped. His campiagn got a boost. But now, americans truly see what kind of a leader she could be and the kind of judgments McCain makes. In the words of Jack Cafferty “This woman is a 72 year olds heart beat away from becoming our next president. If that does’nt scare the hell out of you I dont kow what will!!!!”

John McCain, referring to the October 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, said: “I was on board of the USS Enterprise, I sat in the cockpit, on the flight deck of the USS Enterprise, off Cuba. I had a target. My friends, you know how close we came to a nuclear war.” Then, he went on and said “America will not have a president who needs to be tested. I’ve been tested, my friends.” You have been tested? Hummm! Let’s see! You, Sir, were in the Oval Office at that time presiding over the negotiation with the Russians. Right! In other words, you were the Commander in Chief with the authority to call all the shots. Right! But I would say that President John F. Kennedy was the one who was tested. Not the other John. Not you either, John McCain. Sir, in this case, you have not been tested yet. Therefore, you have no scars to prove that you have been tested! Do you? I think the “Straight Talk Express”, John McCain, has some explanations to do to the American people. It’s RIDICULOUS.

How is it twisting someone’s words when it actually came out of Biden’s mouth that way!? This is ridiculous, people, come on. If you vote in Obama, we’d better all build some bunkers and head for cover!

Jeremy— What words are being twisted by McCain? Exact please.

“ALL REPUBLICANS ALL SCARED RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT McCAIN WILL LOOSE THIS ELECTIONS ”
I’m more afraid that you type in all caps and can’t spell lose.

Obama is a national DISGRACE and will cause us to loose the country we all love. We do not need an illegal president born in Kenya pretending to be American born. LIAR ! The truth on this matter is just days away.

Concerned in OH
Some writing a story on a blog saying Democrats are “eyeing proposals” means nothing Barack Obama has already said its false not happening so once again I say..
FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE
FEAR AND SMEAR FEAR AND SMEAR..

Why is Obama fighting the Philip Berg lawsuit about his citizenship? Why would you fight something like that?

Princess Leia Palin could have said these exact words in regards to McCain. That in his first 6 months he will be tested. The last several presidents have been tested in their first 6 months. So if Palin were to have said Biden’s exact words you would have found them to be correct, yes? So why do you McCain voters reach so far as to say this somehow says something bad about Obama???

Oooooooooo
That was scary . . .
Makes me wanna sleep with my blankie . . . doesn’t change my vote though.
I don’t know about everyone else, but I’m tired of being scared.
It’s time for a change.

Troy
Barack Obama was born in the USA!
John McCain was born in Panama!
John McCain is facing three court case’s E.g. look up Holland v McCain
John McCain is not a natural born citizen ~ and therefor is ineligible to be President..

Hey I am all for the tax cut on the middle class too. However, cutting taxes on the wealthiest drops revenue. So, it’s win win…drop taxes on everyone and the “system” gets more money…TO PAY DOWN THE DEBT! NOTHING ELSE!
I just think Obama revealed himself the most in the primary debate when he said that he would raise taxes even if it meant less money for the gov in the interest of “fairness”
Having come from pretty close to poverty and seeing a lot of my poorer compatriots operate, I also think that they don’t need another incentive not to strive to better themselves…there is a lot of entitlement attitude in the sainted lower class. And it’s a drain on all of us…
But, robbing Peter to pay Paul gives you the support of Paul. Promise someone an extra K a year? Not too shabby. Course, the manufacturers still won’t be coming back…the medium businesses will be hit and hire less, etc.
Power to the “people”..right?

Valley Queen …..
If that is what you are scared …mmm
it truly makes me wounder your IQ maybe a 12 … does us all a favor on Nov 4 stay home.
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“ALL REPUBLICANS ALL SCARED RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT McCAIN WILL LOOSE THIS ELECTIONS ”
I’m more afraid that you type in all caps and can’t spell lose.

for all of you that dont or cant remeber history let me refresh your memory.JFK met with kruschev in vienna and even at the time JFK new he had not done well.the direct result was that the soviet premier thought he had found JFK to be weak.so he puts nukes in cuba leading to the missle crisis.i remeber as a child my parents who were military were terrified that the soviets would not back down.thank god they did.i do not want to take the same chance again with another wet behind the ears chosen one. go puma mccain 08 hillary 2012

THAT ONE McCain and THAT OTHER ONE Palin don’t have an original thought between them. They are grubbing around in the political dirt looking for morsels of fear to spread their messages of contempt. Not one good idea yet kids. Keep it up.

OMG….
I guess MCCAIN is the secret that America was hiding..
He could have prevent 911, the economic crisis ect….because no one would dare mess with hIM?????
HOW MUCH MORE STUPID CAN THIS GET…THIS MAN CALLS HIMSELF READY

The Hawaii Department of Health has already confirmed barack Obama’s birth in Hawaii

Sigh. Of COURSE whoever’s elected is going to be tested. Those leading other countries who wish us harm will ALWAYS try something with a new president. IMO the reason is that they think we’ll be weaker – false assumption. Obama chose someone with some solid long-term experience as his running mate. To me, that’s the test of a candidate. Who he surrounds himself with and if it’s someone who has strengths to fill in his weaknesses. McCain’s choice was a blatent appeal to women and was condescending in that the Republican National Party apparently thought you could switch Clinton supporters to Palin just because she’s female. I’m not impressed or amused.

It’s time for a change.
Posted by: Nashville_fan | Oct 24, 2008 12:23:49 PM
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Nashville_fan: Better be careful what you wish for!!! nDon’t think you realize just what the change will be and don’t think you will like it.

p.s. – to Allaina:
People who vote without thinking aren’t what America needs right now. Not voting for someone becuase you claim they’re “afraid of their own shadow” is irresponsible and another sign that people are going with rhetoric and rumours – not fact. And i didn’t even know the groundhog was running this year.

Barack Obama will be our next president. Just accept it and get used to it.

The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself”: FDR

You people are in denial, you have so much faith in this person (Obama) you think he’s going to solve all your problems as if he’s your savior. Thes are proven facts, there’s no excuse, just lies. Mccain is a good guy and hes actually been involved with the other party and supporting the other party, even at one of his even someone yelled out a negative comment against Obama and he said something to that person saying it was uncalled for. Mccain is a professional who plays a fair game, he has experience. If anyone is negative its Obama, instead of talking about the differences he refers to Mccain as if he has been our president for the past 4 years and which he has not people, be realistic. Finally the republican party has the guts to come out with some ads that put Obama’s true image out there.
You cannot be biased when voting, you have to look at both sides and find out all the information you can, Obamas promising things that cannot be done, its not even realistic but people believe it because thats what they want to believe.
A registered Democrat with independent views and not who to vote for.

Of course Obama can handle what the world tries to throw at him. Anybody who has a muslim background, a top advisor(Valerie Jarrett) who is Iranian, A former adivsor ( Robert Malley) who talks with the Hamas, And a wife who said she’s ashamed of the US. Will fit in nicely with the world. He will fix the economy, it’s funny since the Democrats have had control of congress and it’s still going down hill. One man can make a difference, B.S. what president has done what he said he promised. He got the simple minded peoples vote. Way to go Barry Obama, sorry I mean Barack.

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. .. HEY OBAMA SUPPORTERS . .
Obama has already been tested. He doesn’t have the guts needed to be president.
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HAS THERE EVER BEEN A U.S. PRESIDENT WHO HAS NOT BEEN TESTED? WE KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE HERE AT HOME…. WHAT WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT NOW IS HOW THE WORLD WILL VIEW AMERICA AFTER THIS ELECTION!!!!! EACH DAY I HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD… SOMETIMES VIA TELEPHONE, SOMETIMES E-MAIL. THERE ARE ALOT OF TIMES WHEN THE CONVERSATIONS TURN TO POLITICS. LISTEN UP PEOPLE!!! THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING THE UNITED STATES. THE RESULTS OF THIS ELECTION ARE GOING TO HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON HOW THIS NATION IS VIEWED BY OTHER COUNTRIES. WHETHER YOU ALL WANT TO ADMIT IT OR NOT, THE U.S. IS NOT THAT POPULAR IN THE WORLD COMMUNITY ANYMORE THANKS TO BUSH AND THE WAR IN IRAQ. MANY PEOPLE IN MY INTERNATIONAL CIRCLES ARE AGAINST JOHN MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WANTS TO CONTINUE THAT WAR. THIS ELECTION IS BIGGER THAN MOST OF YOU REALIZE. IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT FIXING THE HOMEFRONT (WHICH SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY), BUT IT’S ALSO ABOUT REBUILIDING OUR REPUTATION WITHIN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. MANY PEOPLE IN OTHER NATIONS CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH JOHN MCCAIN, AND THEY KNOW THAT A MCCAIN PRESIDENCY IS A 3RD TERM BUSH PRESIDENCY. I WONDER WHY PEOPLE AT HOME CAN’T SEE THE SAME THING? I THINK MANY OF THE PEOPLE ON THESE BLOGS ARE SO AFRAID OF CHANGE, SO AFRAID OF SOMETHING (OR SOMEONE) “DIFFERENT” THAT THEY CHOOSE TO BE BLINDED BY THEIR OWN IGNORANCE, THEIR OWN PREJUDICE, AND THEIR OWN BIGOTRY AND HATRED THAT THEY CAN’T SEE WHAT’S BEST FOR THE NATION. IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT “THE BLACK CANDIDATE” OR “THE OLDEST CANDIDATE” OR THE “MAVERICK WAR-HERO” OR THE “FRESH FEMALE FACE.” IT’S ABOUT THE LEAGACY WE’LL LEAVE FOR OUR CHILDREN. ALL OF THIS MESS HAPPENED ON OUR WATCH, IT’S UP TO US TO CLEAN IT UP…. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT….

Joe Lieberman SAID THE SAME THING ON CBS REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS THEY WILL BE TESTED… POWELL TRUSTS OBAMA SO DO I!
Sen. Joe Lieberman said that history shows the United States would likely face a terrorist attack in 2009.
“Our enemies will test the new president early,” Lieberman, I-Conn., told Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer.
“Remember that the truck bombing of the World Trade Center happened in the first year of the Clinton administration. 9/11 happened in the first year of the Bush administration. Who ever wins this election will be tested”

mccain failed the test when he was a captive and collaborated with the enemy for cigarettes and medical care.

Good. I for one am glad that the McCain campaign is using this in an ad, because Biden’s comments raise LEGITIMATE questions, and I felt that the media just dropped the issue all too easily.
First of all, what exactly did Biden mean by a “generated crisis” – and why are the American people going to first assume that Obama’s reaction to the “generated crisis” is the wrong response?
It sounds like not only do Biden and Obama know of this impending doom, they already know how they’re going to respond and they know the American people are not going to like it – that’s pretty troubling and I want an explanation!

I am still on the fence concerning who I’m voting for President. Personally, unless we vote all the crooks out of the Senate and Congress both Republican and Democrats that got us into this mess that neither McCain or Obama will be able to do what they want. They are the ones who make the laws, then hide behind the shadows and blame whoever is president so we overlook them come election day.

To those of you assailing Obama and his proposed tax cuts: have you suddenly gotten amnesia and forgotten what Bush’s policies have done to this country? Vote for McCain and you’ll get more of the same, unless you actually LIKE the damage done by Republicans.
McCain? Uh-uh! Obama for President!

Come on get real people the Democrats/ACORN have put this election in the bag they have done this through the worst voter fraud we have ever seen and in buying the Election. IF Obama would not have lied about his Campaign Finance promise he would be down by ten points! He has not locked it up yet despite out spending McCain 6-1 good thing he did such a good job in training ACORN how to fix the vote.

stopthemadness – Most presidents don’t need “testing” from the world because their positions on most policy issues are pretty darn clear – and that’s just not the case with Obama. Bush was not tested (no – 9/11 was not a “test” – that took years of planning and was in the works long before the election), Reagan was not tested (as a matter of fact, soon after he was elected, Iran released its American hostages).

Not that either candidate has inspired me, but regardless of whether my choice wins or not I would hope ALL Americans support the next Commander in Chief. It’s time for Americans to come together and get this country back on its feet.

We were attacked under Ronald Regan (US Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon), we were attacked under George H Bush(,first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center), we were attacked under Bill Clinton (U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania) we were attacked under George W Bush (,second terrorist attack on the World Trade Center) but all of the sudden our enemies will be afraid to attack us if Sen McCain is elected because he was tested over 40 years ago while he was a POW? This sounds totally ludicrous

Veronica “To those of you assailing Obama and his proposed tax cuts: have you suddenly gotten amnesia and forgotten what Bush’s policies have done to this country? Vote for McCain and you’ll get more of the same, unless you actually LIKE the damage done by Republicans.”
YOU are the one with amnesia. Bush cut tax rates across the board – for ALL taxpayers – to the lowest rate since 1991 (for millions of low income taxpayers, that meant their tax liability was suddenly reduced to zero – yes zero). If you are a taxpayer you benefited too. Obama’s plan is to let those cuts EXPIRE for some. McCain’s plan is to simply keep the cuts in place and give extra tax credits to low- and middle-income taxpayers. Why do you feel it’s necessary to mislead people?

In July 1967, McCain was almost killed in a devastating accident aboard the U.S.S. Forrestal that claimed 134 lives. Instead of fighting to save the ship and his fellow soldiers, McCain flew off the ship with Apple and other reporters to drink and chase women in Saigon, according to Dickinson.
“Ensconced in Apple’s villa in Saigon, McCain and The Times reporter forged a relationship that would prove critical to the ambitious pilot’s career in the years ahead,” Dickinson writes. “Apple effectively became the charter member of McCain’s media ‘base,’ an elite corps of admiring reporters who helped create his reputation for ‘straight talk.’”

gtrmaniac49:
First, no offense, but not every person who doesn’t agree with McCain’s campaign tactics is a liberal. That is a view that disappoints me about many people who are pro-McCain, and a point i was trying to make earlier (name-calling propaganda).
Secondly, Obama’s tax plan would simply take tax breaks out that Bush instilled and put them back to pro-Bush levels. I think the argument is that it is not a “punishment” as many people are calling it, but a way to balance where the government gets money. The idea is that if you’re earning over 250k, going back to that level won’t break you – you’ll still have plenty of money to spend, and it would allow a tax cut for the middle class, who would then (ideally) have more money to spend.
The issue was enveloped by rhetoric, once again, of people who work hard to get to that place being “punished” and such, but in reality it is a small percentage of Americans, which means that the top 5% aren’t the ONLY ones working hard to build themselves up, and that the majority of people that do aren’t getting to that level, so they will be helped by the plan.
I think it’s ridiculous that people (who probably aren’t even making that much) go on boards and talk about hardworking Americans being punished by this. It’s one thing if you are in that tax bracket and don’t want more of your money going to the government, then you have an argument.
And another propagandist slogan is that the money will go to the poor and those unwilling to work, an often-used point by those who just don’t want their money going to the government. Federal money goes to SOOOOO many different programs, from welfare to the environmental protection agency.
The responsibility Americans have is to vote for laws and representatives that will use our tax money well, and stop thinking about taxes so negatively. They can be very beneficial is used correctly. And I bet a few people are already thinking of calling me a socialist, but that’s just another name you can label someone you don’t agree with. The fact is that no government or economic system is perfect and propaganda against one or another prevents us from finding a useful, balanced structure and getting everyone’s needs met.

Try and get it right
911 happened on Bush’s watch!!

Its pretty obvious what Biden was referring to. To stick to the Iraq timetable they have proposed, they will have to start a more aggressive draw-down of troops asap. This will initially embolden the terrorists and violence would increase. At that point the unpopular response would be to continue the draw-down in the face Republican “I told you so’s.” I hate to say it but this is THE ONLY WAY to get the Iraqi goverment off their arses. They need to take responsibility for protecting their own country with their own troops and money and stop squabbling about who is in power. Otherwise the Iraqis will do little since they have free, indefinite US protection.

Veronica:
That is a chant you are peddling.
Republicans have not properly dealt with the economy…However, it is well-documented that democratic policies have contributed to the financial failures of late as well. Even SNL made fun of it.
You are victim to true believer syndrome and splitting behavior, as so many on both the “right” and “left” are.
You will vote ad believe in your side, no matter what the leaders do.
if the economy continues to fail, and Obama must raise taxes on a broader group of people, well, he will simply blame the “policies of the last eight years” even if he is in power and the democrats have control of Congress, and that will be good enough for you…

Try and get it right
Ok thats if you believe it wasn’t done by the government..
If you believe that is was done by terroists then Bush ignored intel and did nothing.
McCain on Bin Laden in 1998: “Look, is this guy… really the bad guy that’s depicted?”
Yhis is after Bin Laden has attacked the world trade centre the first time..
Every President is tested McCain hasnt been tested! He has however shown bad judgement!

Aryn – I agree that paying taxes shouldn’t be viewed as “punishment” – paying taxes is an obligation we all share and most people agree that low-income people should be exempt from paying taxes while still receiving the benefits of tax-funded services (free education, access to roads, emergency services, and all the other wonderful things our tax dollars fund). The issue is that the top 5 percent of tax payers already pay a greater percentage then low and middle income workers – they also account for the bulk of donations to charities and nonprofit organizations. In a slow economy, the goal should be to tax them less or the same (certainly not more!) so that everyone’s money keeps flowing.
Let’s say I make $300,000 a year and pay 30 percent in taxes, donate 10 percent, and spend another 10 percent on domestic help. If my income is going to be taxed more – another 3-10 percent, and the economy is going to slow down, I’m going to make cuts somewhere else. Chances are I’m going to shop less, donate less and perhaps even cut back on my domestic staff, meaning somebody is suddenly out of a job. Raising the taxes of top wage earners does not just effect top wage earners.

Mike NC – no. I don’t believe the US government had any involvement with 911. I don’t blame Clinton or Bush – I’m just saying that it was a well-coordinated plot that took years to plan. I think most people believe that. It was an attack on the US – not an administration. Biden said this new crisis would be a test of Obama and his “mettle” – that’s completely different. That’s an attack based on who’s in charge.

with PelosiandReid garnishing lower rateings than the Bashed One…..just the Trio of Pelose/Reid&Obama scares the heck out of the Gaulupee poll for it might have its first minus poll ever….

We know that Obama has won it and with that I am impressed with the ardor that some on this list persist – I guess I am there.
Every time I see a rant from Mike N(ot) C(oherent) I think of one of those foul mouthed kids on South Park berating young Mike.
There is some joy in losing. We will all suffer together under Pelosi, Reid, and Barney Franks.

Obama’s supporters will have to wait until the real tests to wake up. But as a nation, we really can not afford the tests, or on the job training.

Melissa
Come on now !
Lower-income earners are the more altruistic group, as they tend to give away a greater share of their income. People earning less than $25,000 contribute an average of 4.2 percent of their household income to charitable groups, while those making $100,000 or more shell out an average of 2.7 percent of earnings. This trend has been a consistent finding of Washington, D.C.-based Independent Sector, a nonprofit organization that has been tracking charitable giving since 1987.
Lower earners donate more of there income and there are more people on lower income!
Sorry you dont have facts on your side!

I have already cast my vote for Obama. I am an American living overseas. While there is considerable question as to Obamas ability to be commander in chief and his tax policies, I am hoping that he will impact and change America. I hope that he does raise the taxes on the wealthy and those large corporations. Raising taxes will hopefully make a big change on American businesses. Make them less competitive.
Make them less competitive compared to my overseas companies and give me much more access to the American market. Obama promises me the ability to sell more of my goods into the US market and I can sit overseas here and pay very little tax compared to the good ol USA.
Voting for McCain is not good for us Americans with overseas companies. He will cut into our profits.

Try and Get it Right, it sure seemed like you were trying to blame Clinton (“under his watch”). Oh how quickly you change your tune. why don’t you just stop arguing about who is going to be tested and why… I think it’s been made obvious that everyone wants a chance at the new president, and it’s not his fault. It’s his response that will matter, and we don’t know exactly what that will be, be it Barr, Obama, Nader or McCain. Your arguments are groundless becuase the attacks have come to all presidents, dem or repub, young and old alike, and you don’t know the future, as no one does.

Aryn – Well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on the issue of taxes. Good luck in Americorps or Peace Corps – I was in Americorps in the mid-90s (in Miami doing post Hurricane Andrew work with the homeless) when in was still VISTA – Clinton modified the program a bit (and yes, Republicans volunteer too!). Good luck to you! I hope the experience is as rewarding for you as it was for me.

Voting for McCain is not good for us Americans with overseas companies. He will cut into our profits.
Posted by: Robert | Oct 24, 2008 1:40:04 PM
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Wow, cut the profits of the overseas companies and maybe they will bring the jobs back to the US. Another good reason to vote for McCain. Now watch Ryan C. cut this to shreds.
VOTE FOR THE PARTY THE MEDIA HATES.

I’m still undecided. Obama is to slick & fake, McCain is too old. If McCain had picked someone with more time under their belt I would go for McCain, but he choose Palin. I think shes ok, but not ready to run this country when McCain has a heart attack. I’m really scared to see how the next 4 years go. No matter which one wins I think it will be bad.

For Concerned in OH and Mack
TV is reporting that Ashley Todd confessed that it was a hoax.
If you are remotely the men you claim to be, you will apologize to Obama supporters here for your heinous comments yesterday.

The reason the rest of the world is so keen to have Obama as president is because they know that when he is challenged he will cave. He does not believe America has the right to do what it is doing in the world. Just like Rev. Wright, Obama believes America is wrong. So, why should he defend America if challenged?
I suspect that foreign governments, like Iran, are so keen for Obama to win that they are the source of those millions in undislosed contributions of his. How can Obama rake in so many dollars in contributions? Probably because the contributions are coming from well-healed Iranians, Saudis, etc.

Ryan C. -
If someone made heinous comments, they should certainly apologize.
That being said…Ashley Todd = Ron Paul supporter. Just Saying. It’s on her myspace page.
What she did seems to be a desperate cry for some sort of help. I hope she gets it rather than the media barrage she is about to receive.

Ryan C
Wow. You ask for folks to apologize…then hope others get spat upon in public?

Notice this?
“small ‘d’ democracy…” said Obama.
Sound familiar?

Thank you for another free ad for the McCain campaign – they are running low on cash. You seem to be providing this service on a daily basis.

The wealthy already pay a greater share of the tax burden than they did in 2000, and lower-income people paid less of it than they ever had. The bottom 50 percent now pays less than 3 percent of all federal taxes, where the top 1 percent pays almost 40 percent.
Obama wants to continue to take money from hard working people who have earned some, and disburse it as he sees fit.

A Pittsburgh police commander says a volunteer for the McCain campaign who reported being robbed and attacked near a bank ATM in Bloomfield has confessed to making up the story. Police say charges will be filed.
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concerned in OH – you should post as stubborn in OH

Wade,
Are you familiar with fusion party support?
In a few states smaller parties can endorse larger party nominees.
This is most obvious in NY which has separate Conservative and Liberal parties in addition to Democrats & Republicans.
Just because these groups endorse a candidate does not make that candidate a party member.
The New Party endorsed Obama. He is not a member of the party.

I knew Neil Kinnock.
Neil Kinnock was a friend of mine.
And Senator, you ARE Neil Kinnock.
Tip: Engage brain, open mouth (in that order)

msa123:
agreed, but no one will listen…they hate the “rich” and want their money…I know, I have hung out with many coffee shop kids who want a guaranteed income of $12K so they can doodle in a notebook…

It makes perfect sense. He assaulted her, knocked her down. Stood over her and carved the B in her face.
But, according to Ryan C, he assaulted her beat her up, ran away, and only then did she have the devious idea to carve a B in her own face.
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Posts from yesterday by Concerned in OH

The republican candidates are desperate now, and they will say and do anything. Joe the plumber is a joke. He is not very smart where politics are concerned. McCain does not support unions, including US Customs and Border Patrol, which is a union organization. He voted against better benefits and conditions for this group, that protects the interior U.S. What does that say about Maverick? He wants to drop your tax dollars on a foreign country that does not understand democracy. Let’s rebuild the USA.

It’s really funny that people here are so divorced from reality on fiscal/tax policy. The intelligence level of so many comments here is so low that it is probably a waste of time to even write this.
But since someone asked about “the other side’s” view on taxes, I thought I’d respond (even though I’m not a Democrat).
What seems to be totally absent from the debate on taxes today is that when you reduce taxes you are lowering government revenues and increasing the budget deficit and thereby increasing the national debt (now running at $10 trillion).
It’s not so simple to say, “oh, I’m going to cut taxes”. In our current budget reality, when you lower tax revenues where does the money come from?
Where does the money come from? Hmmm? It’s borrowed. The Treasury sells T-bills, billions of dollars of which are sold to governments and companies overseas (China and Japan being the largest holders). The U.S. government naturally pays interest to these lenders, which just adds to the deficit and debt.
Whatever a candidate’s plans are for paying for tax cuts, the likelihood of actually them paying for them decreases as the complexity of their plan increases.
So, when you talk about cutting taxes, you are talking about borrowing money (lots of it from Asia) and then giving it to someone (and if there isn’t enough to borrow, then you get the Fed to print some more).
The idea of a tax cut is to stimulate the economy, because why else would you just dig a deeper hole in the deficit and national debt. So who are you going to give the money too? Well, it was tried under Reagan just to lower rates across the board (and granted they were pretty high back then), but what did we see? A ballooning deficit and debt. Same thing under 4 years of Bush, although the large majority of his tax cuts only benefited those in top brackets. And what happened to the deficit, another balloon.
It seems like a lot of folks seem to have forgotten that under Clinton we raised tax rates on the top brackets and saw the longest continued period of economic growth in our history. But Clinton also made some tax cuts that were targeted to incentivise some business activity (capital spending – buying equipment, etc. which has benefits of directly increasing business productivity, etc.).
A lot of people here also seem to forget that John McCain completely rejected George Bush’s tax cuts and called them “irresponsible” because they did exactly what I explained above (although it had the added feature of destroying a budget surplus and reductions that were occuring to our national debt).
So, it’s pretty interesting to see John McCain criticize Obama for turning the clock back on tax rates (on only the top bracket) to what they were under Clinton.
Now you can go on and on about, “Oh, John McCain (or whoever) is going to cut spending…” Well, what exactly is he going to cut. “Oh, he’s going to cut earmarks, yada yada yada”. Well, as has been noted widely, that accounts for $18 billion. The deficit is roughly $455 billion this year.
Neither Obama or McCain have said much about what they are going to cut, as politically no one really wants to hear about that. So that leaves us with what are they saying about tax policy.
I didn’t follow either of these candidates in the primaries, so I’m not so detailed about their tax policies. But essentially Obama says he’s going to pay for his middle class and targeted business tax cuts by raising that top bracket back to the Clinton era
level. So, essentially they are revenue neutral. People get a tax break and there is no net effect on the deficit, although there
McCain doesn’t seem to say where his tax cuts are going to be paid for. According to news reports, his campaign says they will cost $600 billion and pay for them by “ending congressional pork-barrel spending, unnecessary government programs and overhauling entitlement programs such as Medicare and Social Security” (per MSNBC).
So, with McCain he has to come up with essentially $1 trillion in cuts to cover our current deficit AND the effect of his tax cuts. Do you think he will be able to do that in 4 years like he says? If so, there is some very nice property in Florida I want you to take a look at.
McCain’s tax cuts (which in the real world will financed by borrowing money) will be mainly in the form of reducing corporate tax rates.
As I understand it, Obama’s tax cuts will be mainly for individuals making less than $100,000 in taxable income and families below $200,000.
Who do you think needs the biggest break? Corporations which largely reaped record profits in recent years (until the current crisis) or the middle class, which saw their personal income either remain flat or go down under 8 years of George Bush.
To say that one provides more incentive boosts economic activity than the other is a false proposition, because both will provide incentive (to spend, invest, save, etc.) and thus provide benefits to the economy. Those individuals receiving tax breaks can just as well start a business with the tax savings. Or they can invest it in equities if they see bargains. Or buy something they need. See Sam Wyly or Warren Buffet as examples of what $1,000 can do.
What has been proven false through a lot of studies (and recent history) though, is that tax cuts will pay for themselves. John McCain’s “advisors”, like Jack Kemp, I suspect still believe this though because they are unrepentant supply-siders (or trickle down economics subscribers, to use the alternative description).
From my perspective and experience, corporate formation already provides great incentives because there are so many tax advantages and ways for business owners to gain benefits from ownership through the current tax laws.
And who is to say that corporations will spend John McCain’s tax breaks in America and not use it to pay for additional outsourcing of tech and customer service work to India or manufacturing jobs to China and Southeast Asia.
Whatever your belief is about the candidates plans is, it is fairly clear that Barack Obama’s plan seems to be one where it is fairly straightforward as to how it will be paid for.
Buying into John McCain’s requires that you have faith in his ability to squeeze hundreds of billions in savings out of the budget (where the largest components are defense and entitlement programs). And when you talk about cuts to entitlement spending, you’re basically talking about limiting benefits. Or does McCain go back to an idea from the 80′s, like eliminating the Department of Education. I really don’t know how or where he’ll get the cuts.
And having a history with McCain, as a former supporter going back 9 years, I’m not sure I have the sufficient trust in him to subscribe to his faith-based tax policy.
So, there you go. Spam away.

Obama! Yes, he DOES have a “spine of steel”, ready and WILLING to meet WHATEVER is thrown in his way. That’s RIGHT – BARACK is our man! Right, Joe?
Oh, wait . . . this is the SAME Barack Obama that Biden ran into the ground last fall, claimed he wasn’t ready to be President, that Obama had voted AGAINST our troops (the ones who’ll be taking the hit when this “test” comes along), that he (Biden) wouldn’t RUN with Obama.
I think it better that we ask BIDEN, “Have you no sense of decency, sir?” Nope – he’s a liar, an opportunist who’d endorse Attila the Hun if he thought there’s gain in it for him!

Speaking of Health Care. Once Nobama’s plan for Government Health Care is in established companies will then drop us like hot potatoes because they will force us to take the government plan. Our health care will be runned by government telling us who and where to go too.
Look at Hawaii’s universal health care plan that is a failure. Read up- it will not work.
And think of all the Small Companies who do not offer health care to employees they will be now fined to pay the Goverment Plan which means people will go back to being paid minumum wage to offset fines. Democratic policies do not work.

“And think of all the Small Companies who do not offer health care to employees they will be now fined to pay the Goverment”
Small business are exempt from Obama’s health care mandate. In fact small business that provides health insurance to its employees will get a 50% tax credit for that.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

The Dimocrats and Republicrats are going to fix the economy Sure. No their going to continue taxing and spending like the junkies that they are. A strong third party presence is needed. The lifers voted out of office on both sides of the aisle who don’t perform their duties. Until that happens you won’t see any change just more of the same with a new name.

Oh yes Obama and Biden are great guys.
They mock and ridicule a citizen for asking a simple question.
I think most rational people can see what kind of leaders they will be and in what direction they will lead this country.
I don’t know who is more corrupt–Obama or the media.

Ryan C:
you are parsing…if you are a “fusion” candidate that means being endorsed is as good as being a member…you are on the ticket as a Dem, but you are affiliated with this non-party party…anyway, its worth looking into or at least one question…
Endorsed is bad enough…appearing in a magazine as an “endorsed” candidate with others, shows more than a tangential connection…does it mean nothing?
Reminder…GB showed up at Bob Jones ONCE and everyone came screaming down on him…this is endorsement and possible “membership”
Of course I am familiar with “fusion” candidates. It is a tacit way of opening the door to a more extreme wing of a party into the mainstream section…
However, my point is, no one wants to investigate it and find out…not one question to Obama about it, ever.
Meanwhile, we have a million “facts” about how Joe the Plumber is an imbecile and shouldn’t dare to aspire to a 300K and up a year income…
Ryan, 8 out of 10 people believe the press wants Obama to win…are they wrong? That tells me many Obama supporters admit this, but don’t care…is this wrong? I guess I will just have to learn to shut up and enjoy “paradise,” right?
We get no investigation of Obama’s shadings of the truth…
Wright, Ayers, Klonsky, etc. all legitimate exploration…yet it is “hateful” to discuss these associates.
Ayers dreams of a time when I would be killed in a re-education camp. The fact that academia has accepted him is an indictment of academia, not a certificate of his beneficence.

I’ve heard this plan being floated for the government to take over people’s 401ks and force them to contribute to a government plan instead overseen by the Social Security Administration. Seems the Democrats are very unhappy with people not paying taxes immediately on their 401k contributions and being able to pass the entire amount onto their heirs when they die.
This is being discussed in Washington as we speak. And if Obama wins and the Democrats run the table – like the Republicans did for 6 years – anything is possible.
Total control by one party is never best for America.

Concerned in Ohio: Nothing about her story was plausible – and anyone who has any connection with young girls would know that.
I feel sorry for the kid and she needs help. But it is a classic example of a right wing blog taking a regional story, turning it into a political episode and trying to both capitalize on the story and link it to the Obama campaign. Even a cursory look at the newspaper made it clear it wasn’t right – young girls want doctors when their faces have been “maimed.” Muggers are almost always addicts and they do not even know who is running for President, much less care. They don’t tend to have perfect penmanship. Victims try to protect their identity – they don’t try to publicize it. In six hours, the marks on this young girl’s face, according to the press went from “maimed: to “carved” to “etched” to “scratched”. The ultra right wing blogs were dying for a story like this, and they made fools of themselves.
Meanwhile, there is still a young girl who needs a whole lot of help – and a culture that somehow made her believe she would be a heroine if she could persuade someone she was a victim for the McCain campaign. She was a victim of the McCain campaign – and their attempt to rip this country apart to win – instead of running on their record and their principles. Perhaps that’s because they left their principles and their honor a long time ago And the only record they can run on is George Bush’s presidency – the worst presidency in US history.

“Total control by one party is never best for America.”
Yet right wingers & Republicans advocated that standard in election in 1996, 2000, 2002, 2004 & 2006.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Total control by one party is never good for America. Republican, Democrat, or Martians who land and take over the USA – doesn’t matter; it’s never best for our country. Nothing partisan about it.

RYAN C (the REAL one) – gotta agree with DEAR LEADER on this one – “Right wingers lie?” Yup – but the Democrats NEVER do, riiiiiighhhht? “And they ALLLLLLL lived HAPPILY every after! . . . “

Not a right-winger here, just an Independent who recognizes a ‘typical politician’ when I see one.
See, I’m so fair in my thinking that I’ll even admit agreeing with Rev. Wright on something!

I think Biden loses his bearings sometimes and thinks he is still running for president.
Back to the days (a few months ago)when he said Obama was unqualified to be president.
That must be why Biden said Obama will be tested within six months.
Biden is just reminding everyone that BHO is totally unqualified to be president.

If Obama had a steel spine then Hillary would be his running mate.
As a former Hillary supporter, now a McCain/Palin supporter I just want to thank Joe Biden for being so truthful.
A few more Biden/Obama moments off the teleprompter and McCain might pull this off.

ABC news has reported the following:
Ashley Todd, 20-year-old college student from College Station, Texas, admitted Friday that the story was false and was being charged with making a false report to police, said Maurita Bryant, the assistant chief of the police department’s investigations division. Police doubted her story from the start, Bryant said.
Now lets hear an apology from those neocons republicans who were shouting more vulgarity and lies about the democrats in regards to this lying little tramp. You are all so ready to believe anything that smacks of anti-de mocratic. See what the republican party has turned you into, fools!

DEMOCRATIC – Ummmm – yeah . . . you really told US, huh? Now . . . WHAT was your point? . . .

DEMOCRATIC – After a quick 2nd read, let me clarify: You democrats are owed an apology? Based on some idiot doing something incendiary and stupid? And, of course, we’re all classified as “fools”?
OK – is this from a supporter of the party that ran Hillary Clinton for President? That woman would EXPLODE if she actually had to tell the truth about ANYthing! To be honest & straight-forward just goes against her nature! Oh, but WAIT! Maybe THAT story’s all a “vast right-wing conspiracy”!
Dream on . . .

BIDEN – OMG!!! The man is a raving lunatic. BO and his “camp” need to put a muzzle on him and send him to the dog house until this fiasco of an election is over. And the media and others are worried about Palin? “Mark my words”……it will be a sorry state for USA if Biden (God forbid) ever had to step up to serve as our president…..the man has a bad case of diarrhea of the mouth…..crap seems to flow everytime he opens his yap! He spews unintelligible rhetoric here and there and has about as much dignity and social graces as a real live doofus! Sorry, but I don’t want this guy speaking to and offending foreign dignitaries with his off handed predictions of world policies. Frankly, after Biden’s gaffs, Sarah Palin seems more in touch with reality afterall! This dem is voting for McCain. Hurts my heart to go to the “other” side, but in my opinion, Hillary was the only hope for the country! Obama and the DNC put the screws to her!

I saw a post here about people making $25,000 a year donate 4.2% of their to charity while those making 100,000 a year only donate 2.7% to charity. Am I completely off base here in that 2.7% of 100,000 is quite a bit more in dollars than 4.2% of 25,000? Using percentages for this example falsely gives the impression that those that make less give more.
Now what I have not heard from either candidate is what happens with someone like me who is single and makes between $120,000 – $150,000 per year? Where do I fall into their tax plans? It always seems like people in my situation are the ones getting stuck with increased tax burdens. I am already getting screwed by the state of CA and the city of Los Angeles so my vote is going to be who saves me more money on the federal level. Recently I received a $15,000 a year raise but only see $500.00 of it per month. That is really messed up.

Obama is a loser who talks a great talk and does absolutely nothing – Biden will not be a factor if Obama is elected, you can put that in the bank.
In fact he will be sorry he took the job. Bidens problem is smarter than Obama – Obama knows it too. Pelosi, ried the runt – and other will be running things not Obama he has NEVER DONE A THING IN HIS LIFE BUT TALK.
Raise taxes not him congress will do that with him in office. If it works and it will not he will blame congress and if wins — ong this guy should not be President of The United States – wake up America -
If you want a great speaker let’s elect Clooney, Hopkins, Rush, its the same thing but at least they are not BSing the public like Obama

REPUBLICANS TO THE CORE. HAH! YOU ALL SHOULD BE ON THE ROAD WITH THE POOR OLD ZOOMBIE TO THROUGH OUT ALL THAT HATE RHETORICS. I am a republican too, but a smart one and vote for my country first. The OBAMA-BIDEN OFFERS SOLUTIONS AND IDEALS. Our zoombie McCain-Palin reveals nothing, but enticing division and hate….oh, and go on shopping spree while they complain of not having the same amount of funds as the other team. GROW UP.

NOW THEY JUST CAME OUT WITH ANOTHER DESPERATED HOAX…..A McCain-Palin volunteer battered and whatever by a black man.
AND EVEN THAT IS PROVEN ______________.
REPUBLICANS WE ARE A DESPERATE BUNCH. IT’S PATHETIC, IF IT’S NOT SAD.

McCain’s ads just make me want to vomit. Almost all of the bad images that he shows in his ads are terrible things that happened while his good buddy Bush was in office. McCain is just more of the same of that. We need new blood, new direction. At least we know Obama does want to end the war and wants to negotiate diplomacy and peace. McCain wasn’t even talking about ending the war until he saw that it was advantageous for him to do so, and this was after Obama was pushing for it. McCain is SICKNING!!!! Reminds me of Nixon, oblivious!! Oblivious and totally out of touch with what’s really going on and to what really needs to be done to make things better!!

What else is new? McCain & Palin taking Obama’s or Biden’s words and twisting them around to benefit themselves and to distort the truth so that other people believe their BS? Ohmy, at this point I am no longer surprised. In fact, when they start speaking I just wait for the BS to start because I know it’s going to come and there’s going to be lots of it foaming out of their mouths.

Then a direct comparison can be made with Cindy not paying her property for 4 years and Joe the plumber not paying his taxes. You would have assume that Cindy would have pay her taxes on time when her husband is running for president. Sometime is not right in pro America land.

Say what you will about George W. Bush, there is one single fact that is indisputable. Since 9/11/2001 we have not been attacked again by any other of the extremist Islamo-facists who murdered our fellow citizens on that tragic day.
And, we would be very wise to heed Joe Biden’s words and warnings about the election of his running mate, Senator Obama, and his impending “test” if elected. If our enemies know that Obama is not likely to do anything to retaliate if they attack us, are they really that likely to hold back in doing so?

In June 2008 Joe Lieberman said on Face the Nation:
“Our enemies will test the new president early” and “Remember that the truck bombing of the World Trade Center happened in the first year of the Clinton administration. 9/11 happened in the first year of the Bush administration.”
If anyone thinks that an erratic 72 year-old who irresponsibly selected an unprepared, egotistical small-time governor (who just could possibly end up president) won’t get tested early, they’re delusional.
I’ll take calm, deliberative, gather-the-information from the most knowledgeable sources and then make a rational decision over gambling, erratic, angry, hot-headed behavior any day.
Pass the torch. Obama-Biden for the real country first.

I am starting to worry about Biden as much as I am Palin. Talk about McCain being erratic and impulsive, maybe Biden’s age is starting to show also or we need more reviewal of his medical records. Maybe it’s just his arrogance getting the best of him. A gaffe is one thing and some of Joe’s stuff I find kind of amusing but it’s continual.
Clinton as Obama’s VP candidate is looking much, much more like that would have been the better decision at this point. What was Biden thinking? I know he’s best friends with McCain and is he trying to help him out or something? A couple weeks before the electin and he points out that their will be an international crisis intended to test Obama and that the American public won’t be happy with the
Obama administration’s response but we should stick with him? What the heck does that mean? Maybe it means we should vote McCain. I’ve come to the conclusion I don’t want either Palin or Biden as potentially my President. Poor choices on both Obama and McCain’s part. Heaven forbid Obama needs a 3 hour surgery down the road or something because Biden will be another Haig, 3 hours while he’s running the show- look out.

Typical McCain – he left out the last part of Biden’s statement when he said ,”and they’ll find out he has a spine of steel.” Maybe McCain just didn’t stay awake long enough to hear the entire sentence. He’s lost it and these ridiculous ads are just the last gasp of a dying campaign. McCain is not an honorable man. No surprise there.

this is how sad & pathetic the mccain campaign is, constantly using flase info without checking the facts;

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