Obama Attacks McCain on Medicare

yes but didn’t you stop short in your reporting the facts to us
is there any truth to what obama has said?

This low hanging fruit will likely cost McCain Florida.

Sick and tired of no basis for some of these stories. Who is telling the truth about their plans and who is lying? After the election it will be to late to change the screwing, who ever wins, will give the population.

NEITHER CANDIDATE HAS SOLID SOLUTIONS
TO THE HEALTH CARE ISSUE…
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE DOCTORS OR
HOSPITALS….THE PROBLEM IS THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THE FAT CATS
IN WALL STREET…….

Ahhh – an issue! How refreshing! Now tell me, which of McCain’s reps is right? Bounds says McCain will not cut Medicare. Holtz-Eakin says he will. Which is it?

MCCAIN IS GONNA TAX OUR HEALTHCARE INSURANCE WE GET THROUGH OUR EMPLOYERS LIKE IT IS INCOME THATS RIGHT YOU HEARD RIGHT TAX TAX TAX TAX

Palin accused Obama of exploiting the health care and Social Security issues to win votes among seniors in Florida.
“Our health-care plan will give millions of middle class Americans access to better health-care coverage without costing you a dime,” she said, saying middle class families would receive a $5,000 tax credit to buy coverage.
How can she say that with a straight face?  Has she not read McCain’s health care plan.  It is paid for by taxing employer provided health care plans and cutting funding for Medicare and Medicaid.  And McCain wanted to privatize social security. Thank God that did not happen we would all be in an even bigger world of hurt now that the market is tanking.
McCain has been on a US Govt health plan his entire life….but nobody else should have that benefit!

People let’s show Obama our support on Nov. 4. Let’s show Obama some real numbers! I want to hear Obama say Whoa…. He’s fighting hard for us! The least we can do is be there at the polls on Nov. 4th! OBAMA 08

One_American: “Whenever anyone voices an opinion or point of view that is different than the Liberal ideology, they are immediately personally investigated and attacked by the Liberal Press, vilified, dragged through the mud, and their character impugned.”
Could you give a couple examples? Joe the Plumber has been subjected to no lies, indeed by claiming he would be subjected to the $250k+ income tax bracket HE was lying. I for one look forward to an administration that is not based upon and welcoming of lies.

Fact: Medicare is broken.
Fact: Medicaid is broken.
Sen. Obama thinks stay-the-course, more-of-the-same will “fix itself” (debate #3)
Sen. McCain knows, America’s entitlement programs need 1) to keep its promise and 2) reform.
Posted by: Obamacrat for McCain | Oct 17, 2008 3:37:18 PM
*Fact:McCain’s been a senator for 26 years and still hasn’t fixed it. He’s the maverick… why not? he can do it all why hasn’t he done it by now? Because he’s incapable of doing anything that affects middle class people

Yes, let’s show our support for Obama on November 4th, and then we can all head back do Disneyland!

Medicare/Medicaid is socialism.If your serious, you repeal the programs make the cut off line at say 45 years old.Anyone younger than that can have a high intrest tax free savings account.Anyone older than 45 can stay in if thay want.
Ex Republican

Also to you women out there, John McCain doesn’t care about you either! He has said nothing about equal work for equal pay but he’s calling everyone a sexist for questions one of the most ‘interesting’ picks ever! {She’s no Hillary not even close} and secondly he keeps voting against birth control to be covered by health care, but its all right for VIAGRA (which I”m sure he’s using!) to be covered by health care. Maybe he and sarah palin should talk about it because if birth control was covered maybe she wouldn’t be becoming a grandma!

Paint VA Blue,
Really? Birth control wasn’t covered?
Apparently it wasn’t covered in the John Edwards household either.
Oops, you blew it. :)

I’m a democrat, but I ain’t a socialist, therefore I’m voting McCain. And millions of democrats are joining me. See you at the polls!
Posted by: Democrats For McCain | Oct 17, 2008 3:49:58 PM
**Ha! you know thats a lie.. Republicans don’t even like their ticket thats why they keep publicly criticing old McCain…

Paint VA Blue,
Really? Birth control wasn’t covered?
Apparently it wasn’t covered in the John Edwards household either.
Oops, you blew it. :)
Posted by: Jo | Oct 17, 2008 3:51:04 PM
** Not really… hurts to know Sarah Palin can’t even control her own daughter Jo doesn’t it? You trust her w/ the country?

Paint VA Blue,
Yeah, that’s why polls show at least a 1/3 of Hilllary democrats aren’t supporting Obama.
And that’s just the ones who will ADMIT it to a pollster!!
President McCain – get use to it!
:)

Paint Va Blue,
Hurts to know that your former VP choice can’t keep his pants zipped OR use birth control WHILE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
LOLOL.
Nice try, but I win.
;-)

Al Gore was up double digits at this same time and lost.
Obama isn’t even up by double digits which means officially he’ll lose the election by at least 3 points.
And don’t forget the Bradley Effect.
Ka Ching!

Poor Obama.
99.9% of media cheering for him and he’s still fighting to till the very end to stay within margin of error!
Never in our history has someone blown it so badly.
President McCain – get use to it!!

Senator Government.
McCain you magnificent brilliant guy! Obama will never live that one down. And it wasn’t even intentional.
:)

The busiest guy in the world right now is the guy who is in charge of scrubbing Obama’s website clean as the facts come in.
Facts come in, lies have to go out.
Scub a dub dub. :)

New scandal coming out on Obama. Proof of a much deeper relationship with Ayers than Obama admits.
Just a guy in his neighborhood?
Riiiight.
Can’t wait!

Gotta go. Gotta go see the new polls showing Obama has lost his lead because of his big socialist/marxist mouth!
Whoooo hoooo!
Adios! See you at the McCain inaugural!
:)

Pretty clear now why Obama ducked McCain’s proposal for a series of nationally-televised town hall debates. The two sides could have worked out all the details of where, when, and how to both their satisfaction.
But Obama didn’t want to.
First two debates, Obama came across well. Third debate Obama started showing frayed edges. Had there been more debates, face-to-face on national TV, Obama would be seen for what he is, a load of BS, a la loser Gore, a la loser Kerry.
Obama would rather duck and hide all summer then start now with scaring old people about medicare and medicaid.
Another reason Obama ducked McCain on the series of debates was because Hillary supporters would be among those watching the face-to-face debate exchanges and begin to think, “Hillary got dumped for this joker?”

Wake up Seniors…it’s not about fear and smear…shame on McCain. It’s about taking back our country with Obama/Biden leading the way. The GOP has “always” dipped or cut into social security/medicare/medicaid for their own pet projects. Let’s get America back on track on November 4th. Obama/Biden go………..

McCain’s plans are a disaster. The follow-up on how he will have savings from Medicare shows someone who really has no idea what he is talking about. Really, he could have just as easily said “magic”…

John McCain will tax your health benefits as income if provided by your employer.
That’s a tax increase on 50% of the people who have insurance.

Social Security is my sole income. Enron’s shady dealings cost me most of my savings. I have Medicare, which currently costs me $98.00 per month. But, I don’t rely solely on Medicare; I have additional insurance for which I currently pay $57.00 per month, and both costs will no doubt increase next year. However, I have several serious medical conditions; I’m taking a lot of medication for those conditions, and in the past two years I’ve had to under go 7 different surgical procedures. Because of these circumstances it’s worth it to me to have insurance supplemental to medicare. I’ve made personal sacrifices to make these payments. I haven’t seen a movie in a theatre in more than 2 years; I love music and theatre, but haven’t attended a concert or theatre production in more than 3 years; I don’t go out to dinner with friends and I limit my driving to accomplish as many errends in one trip as I can. Getting old isn’t fun. I don’t have a wealthy spouse to back me up when I need medical help, nor do I have the type of insurance McCain has access to as a senator. He doesn’t have a clue of what it’s like to be elderly and poor, trying not to give in to dispair.

RealityCheck, you know quite well that Sen. McCain preferred the GI-Bill that he co-sponsored instead of the one that passed.
If Sen. Obama is elected president, he will NOT veto a bill to decimate our intelligence capabilities and cut back our military that a Democratic Congress is likely to pass.

nanameow, the seniors I know are in the same boat as you are. They need to pay out of pocket for supplemental insurance because Medicare doesn’t cover everything. If McCain strips it further how can that help seniors? It will only drive up the price of their supplemental insurance.
The idea that any American is without good health insurance should bother all of us. No one should be losing their house because of medical bills, no one should have to choose between buying medicine or buying food, no one should be turned down for coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

Even the most liberal media in America has an article on this, calling it the biggest blopped by Obama of the campaign. Could not believe that this ultra liberal national TV station made such a statement, very unusual.
Obama lied all the time. He lies about his past (had a communist mentor which is not being reported, Frank Marshall Davis, Obama wrote about his great relationship in his book; Obama lies about his past ties to extremist; he lies about his platform of what he wants for American (he’s drastically changed what he said a year ago which was radical to what he is saying today, but he is only saying what he’ll do now because he knows his radical ideas will get few votes. What else has he lied about? So many things; he has brainwashed the Americans so do not complain in a couple of years when the government is ruling your lives. You reap what ye sow.

Don’t praise medicare until you’ve had to use it….. and find that in one swell foop the medical arena from whence you get to pick the surgeon of your choice… has drastically shrunk.
Medicare was NEVER the cat’s meow… but the addition of “D” and the dreaded drug doughnut….has just about done it in.
And why would Obama care anyways?
His Health care plant pales compared to Hillary’s!
Besides,he’s covered for life under the Congressional Health Plan….
I would be sorely tempted to vote for anyone who could drop THAT at my doorstep, providing his or her life were an open book in regard to associations, education, passports, birth certificates, and international dealings.
SXo, I guess that’s another
NO NO B O!
v

“Wake up Seniors… I S about fear and smear.’
And it’s all done with mirrors and a tall,by a suave politician who’s learned how to speak out of both sides of his face….abd who make big promises while crossing his fingers.
McCain and Palin’s suggestions for change to the system, are re cited below:
They will be welcome ones: doctors who have lost patience with the way they have been paid and thus dropped out of the program hopefully will return.
“Payment reform from current fragmented and volume-based service to one that rewards coordinated and quality focused care;
* Elimination of Medicare fraud and abuse;
* Making sure drug premiums for the wealthiest Americans are not being subsidized by the middle class;
* Promotion of a new generation of treatment models that better manage chronic care conditions while rewarding prevention and wellness;
* Greater use of Health IT and medical homes to promote greater co-ordination of care; and
* Reduction of drug costs by allowing greater use of generics (including bio-generics).
The McCain campaign points out that several of these are also Obama proposals and says:
“Only the liberal media and the Obama campaign would characterize similar proposals as ‘savings’ in their plan and ‘cutting benefits, eligibility or both’
Viva McCain and Palin!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY.

McCain said he planned to reduce both Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid in early July 2008. Since then McCain’s answer for social security is he will work across the isle with Democrats to fix the problem.
McCain has gone back and forth on a tax increase for social security, the last was no increase. He has to have an increase in tax or reduce benefits.
Skepticism on McCain Plan to Balance Budget by 2013
McCain said he would also slow the growth of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and fiscal experts agree that he would need to do that to achieve his goal.
But McCain did not give details of how he would alter those benefit programs, which have powerful constituencies, including older Americans, a huge health care industry and state and local government officials
http://tinyurl.com/6xo5bk

Cheetah, are you seriously concerned about the donut hole? because before Bush passed the medicare prescription plan, the seniors would have been paying for all the drugs themselves, not just prescription copays while they are in the donut hole. Or am I missing something here?
McCain has done nothing to instill fear of homelessness in seniors. in fact, many of his economic ideas are geared toward seniors, like lowering taxes on ira/401k withdrawals and allowing seniors to skip making withdrawals that would force them to sell at a loss. He has a solid record of support for senior issues.

Dee,
I finally heard a guest on CNN’s Larry King ask about the McCain’s “pal” G. Gordon Liddy and Palin’s “palling around” with the AIP. Finally!
On the topic of medicare, I wouldn’t be surprised if McCain and Palin’s reforms are based on the “make them work til they’re 100″ mentality. They don’t get it that older Americans don’t need to have the rug pulled out from under them. Once McCain cuts their benefits, the older Americans will have to be subsidized by their children — most of whom are also struggling in this rotten economy.
Obama’s plan is much better for seniors. Cut the costs, not the benefits!
Obama/Biden 08!

Our most cherished right as an American citizen is the right to vote. That right to vote and the entire election process is what millions of our bravest citizens have fought and died for throughout our history. When one part of the election process loses its integrity the entire process is undermined. Those who consider voter registration fraud as no big deal, show little respect for the election process? And that is like spitting in the face of the men and women who have died for your right to vote.

All you ever needed to know about Obama’s political aspirations and plan is described in Saul Alinsky’s philosphy and strategy in ‘organizing’, you know the guy who Obama said influenced him more than anyone else.
This nation is primed for Obama’s strategy. I’m not going to say to be scared. Read it for yourself and draw your own conclusions.

Donoke9_10, Sen. Obama is nothing more than just another–same ol’, same ol’–liberal Democrat. Back in 1996 the Democrats twisted Newt Gingrich’s words–”the Medicare bureaucracy would wither on the vine”–into Medicare benefits would wither on the vine. And it worked well. I don’t believe the seniors will fall for the same ol’ lie again!
But it does prove that “The One” is really just “another one” of the good ol’ liberals.