Obama Flack Accidentally Sends Out Pre-Debate Talking Points

Scathing! Excellent journalistic work JT!
McCain will certainly have the edge tonight given these brand new revelations!

Are there accidents in politics?

All, A mea culpa or what? Not much there that we don’t know. We’ll see tonight.

Huh?
Get some sleep Jake.

Boy, Obama’s PR folks must love you, Mr. Tapper – you just print exactly what they send you! When I was a reporter, we actually had to check facts!

Jeez! I can’t believe I wasted time reading this. Come on, Jake!

accident? Just a time saving technique. And it works. They mouth them and you publish them without comment. More streamlined that way. No pretense of “analysis”.

Why is McCain being Deceitful about the fact that William Ayers’ educational foundation was funded by Republicans, not Democrats, Republicans, who are now endorsing him?
The Annenbergs who are Republicans, Bankrolled William Ayers with $50 million dollars. However, Walter and Leonore Annenberg weren’t just giving money to the educational foundation started by William Ayers, they were also giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Republican National Committee and various other Republican groups, as well as to a whole host of Republican candidates, including the following:
George W. Bush $4000 – Mitt Romney $5000
Strom Thurmond $1000 – Fred Thompson $500
Rick Santorum $3000
There are questions that are not being asked or answered such as –why would billionaire Republican philanthropists give millions of dollars to a program that was started by William Ayers, if he is such a scary figure and unrepentant? Why would George W., Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson and all those other Republicans accept money from the people who were funding this William Ayers-associated group? And, why won’t McCain discuss these connections between the Republican Party and Ayers?”
Recently, McCain campaign put out a press release bragging about the fact that Leonore Annenberg has endorsed him for president. The very Leonore Annenberg who bankrolled William Ayers with millions of dollars is now backing McCain!
Lastly, Republican Arnold Weber who served on the board of the CAC with Barack, who worked with William Ayers in the 90’s, has also donated at least $1000 to the McCain campaign. So you see, McCain is accepting money from associates of William Ayers, and so far has not given the money back. Why won’t McCain come clean about these facts? Why is he being deceitful about this?

Experience really is important, not just because it gives a candidate time to learn, but because it gives us a chance to see what he has learned. McCain’s problem is not that he is too old; his problem is that after all those years he still makes the big mistakes. He helped push us into Iraq, he spent all his political career fighting anyone who wanted the government to use oversight to protect our economy, he speaks of the need for experience and despite being in poor health he picks Sarah Palin to be the one to take over if he is sick or dies. Picking Palin was reckless , especially from a man saying he thinks experience is important. Maybe McCain can’t remember what he has said from day to day, but we do. His experience proves him to be wrong on all the really big issues. I have always admired him as a man, if not as a politician. The old version of McCain reached across the aisle, but this one is burning bridges with most of America, choosing to seek his support from fanatics who call Democrats hooligans and speak of killing his enemies. McCain needs to apologize to Obama and to America to save his legacy, or those few wonderful things he really did do will not save him from the only judgment history can render a man who is polarizing America when what we most need is for all Americans to believe again in each other. God bless America!

You guys buy this garbage…it was meant to be passed around before the debate!

Jake,
Do you really think the Obama camp makes dumb, silly mistakes that are standard in the McCain camp?
This is classic AFrican Wolf spider luring impulsive and directionless cockroach into a hole that McCain will never return from politically sound.
POTUS OBAMA – Don’t Sleep on Him

Jake Jake Jake: Your getting beat up pretty bad on this one…..NEXT

If you think that was released by “accident,” I have a bridge-to-nowhere to sell you.

Are any of the news outlets going to cover the story of Obama VS Berg? It should be a top headline since Berg challenged both candidates status of citizenship.
McCain provided Berg immediately when asked for a birth certificate. Obama has yet to do so. If Obama can actually prove he was born in Hawaii, then why didn’t he do it months ago?

Accident my “you know what”, it was a free commercial for the O camp and y’all jumped on it.

I doubt it was an accident… just part of pre debate spin.
McCain will only use attacks and the Obama team already knows this, so all they need to do is concentrate on the economy, and that is what they have been doing.
There is nothing in that memo that is really a secret.. so I wouldn’t try to spin it into something its not.

SET-UP o wanted the leak or it would not have happened!!!!!!!!!

Does anyone really believe this was put out by mistake?

Look at the reactions of people…there were expecting some juicy news…some dirt coming out against McCain…
Sorry People, I think he communicates his staff members what he communicates to us…

Yes, Mike NC, ignore the posted facts in the article and instead rely on a conspiracy theory to keep you nice and cozy. Quick, I think Karl Rove is hiding in your closet!

Sounds more like smart campaigning to me as in how to get what you want in the press.
I like this tactic much better than John McCain throwing temper tantrums when he doesn’t think the media is paying enough attention to him.

Geevil, so Obama was adopted by Soetoro, doesn’t that invalidate his citizenship if he didn’t retake the oath of allegiance at 18
According to Berg’s lawsuit. That is true. and “Barry Soetoro” couldn’t atrend that Indonesian school without being a citizen. Indonesian did not grant dual citizenships.

RA:
Notice how the Obama talking points exactly mirror the MSM talking points?
You really think it was a “mistake” to send this to MSM jurnalists? the only mistake was that the email went to the larger press group instead of extreme Obama loyalists only. Once the larger press group had a hold of it, Obamaphiles like Tapper here had to “report” that the talking points were “leaked” by mistake.
Dont you ever wonder why the MSM has a coordinated attack story on McCain for every debate or event? Emails like this from Obama is why.
Wake up, you are being manipulated.

Only ONE taking point needed:
TIM RUSSERT: The fact is you are different than George Bush.
SEN. McCAIN: No. No. The fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.
And the “Maverick” said it better than anyone else!

The truth leaks out. How embarrassing.

As a registered Democrat, small-businessowner and educated individual, I am deeply saddened to see what is happening to my country. The masses are embracing socialism.
It is a sad day when a man of little accomplishment calls John McCain’s campaign dishonorable. Who has been smeared more than Palin? I was raised with the adage if you lie down with dogs you get fleas. Assocations do matter a great deal. Every parent is always concerned with the associates of their children.
Obama’s policies will kill jobs and create a giant welfare state. Any one running for office that will not publicly call out Acorn for fraud has no room to call anyone’s campaign dishonorable.
Imagine if you disagree with Obama, you run the risk of being called a racist. Many of our friends are small business people who have worked for years to get where we are. We resent this man wanting to spread our tax dollars around. I see plenty of people driving new vehicles who have no health insurance. I drive a used vehicle, but I spend my dollars on my health insurance. A lot of the problem is people having the wrong priorities. Now let’s have Obama save us from ourselves. People need to get real about what is going on. This man is playing to the fears and ignorance of the public; the rest of them see jobs and appointments.
How sad.

sigh
Yeah right “posted fact” give me a break it the wsj own by newscorp!
“Quick, I think Karl Rove is hiding in your closet!”
Karl Rove isn’t hiding in my closet he too is on FOX NEWS owned by Newscorp.
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

JG:
I have my own mind…
Yes, I am manipulated by last 8 years’ Lies after Lies…Boneheaded decisions, the economy mess, lack of respect given to American people and humanity, Selfishness of the Republicans….
Don’t tell me I am being Maniputed…Keep your opinion/suggestion with you… Thanks a lot though.
Have a Nice Day.

I wonder if API (African Press International) got that conversation on tape with Michelle? I wonder still if they can find the records in time.

gail — the problem is that people now are blinded by color, and do not realize what a socialist state is. When they do, unfortunately, it will be too late. Socialism will have infiltrated our democracy, and America as we know it, and according to Obama’s mantra, will be changed permanently.

So to deal with an historic crisis, the government is borrowing part of its economic strategy from socialism?
I’m sorry, I thought the Cold War was over. What century are you from?
Although a whole generation was taught that socialism is the mortal enemy of capitalism, they are both only theories, and in recent times they have dovetailed together peacefully. Medicare. Social Security. Corporate bail-outs.

I got this memo in my e-mail. Couldn’t have been too terribly “restricted.” Besides, where’s the news?

Since when does the Obama campaign ACCIDENTLY do anything.

Everything is a “secret” or “conspriacy” with you folks.
You obviously get your “facts” from the interenet and so does everyone else.
You have “discovered” nothing new.

What makes many of you the most upset is that there was no dirt or evil such as we have seen and heard daily from McCain’s campaign rallies and from Sarah Palin and John McCain himself. Sorry to disappoint you, but Barack Obama really will make a difference for middle class America. He really desires to be a blessing and give America back their voice. Eight years of being ignored is over. On November 4th we will ignore McCain and Palin.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 – When America Fights Back

You don’t lose your citizenship by being adopted by a step-parent. His citizenship would have had to have been renounced at a US Embassy/Consulate.
A child born out of the country to an American citizen (mother or father) gains American citizenship automatically.
Sen. Obama has security clearances to be briefed on National Security Matters. You don’t get a clearance without a proper background check. You also cannot obtain a US Passport without providing proper ID (birth certificate)
So all of your arguments and conspiracy theories are nuts.
Keep making up tin-foil hat stories though… if that is comforting to you.

McCain’s campaign is inciting hate and violence and lies and SMEARS. He and Sarah has no truth, integrity or character. You have someone who was actually found guilty of Abuse of Authority saying that she wasn’t. She tries to portray herself as a Moral Christian with nothing to hide, but she has one Main Thing She Has Been Hiding Since Selection and that is the TRUTH.

Jake,
You sure the leak was accidental? pretty innocuous stuff here, but the basic narrative they have been trying to push about mccain for the last several days. “Grampa is too erratic to drive, let along run the country.” Of course, it isn’t true and he has NOT been erratic, but that’s how they spin it. I would assume that the truly for-internal-consumption-only stuff would be a little less generic and a little more honest about the fact that this is spin.

Woman for Change I sure do hope you make a lot of money, so I can cash in on that redistibution, I mean change, that Obama is going bring this country.

Good Point (Not so Good Point)
Yes, I am manipulated by last 8 years’ Lies after Lies…Boneheaded decisions, the economy mess, lack of respect given to American people and humanity, Selfishness of the Republicans….
Don’t tell me I am being Maniputed…Keep your opinion/suggestion with you… Thanks a lot though.
Have a Nice Day.

Thanks Bob, can’t wait for the free ride because you sound really educated, and you probably make a lot of money. Thanks to you, and probably alot of your friends I will be able to buy a bigger house, and a new car, once Obama brings his change to America.
Thanks Bob!

These are too clean, I think they were e-mailed accidently to the press on purpose to get more buzz. I read the story thinking something really shocking would be in the talking points. But it will attract voters thinking that same thing, and creating buzz, and maybe changing a few minds of independents.
Obama is cleaver.

Please don’t vote for either one of them. What kind of democracy is this where we only have these two people to visibly chose from? There are many other candidates from different political parties. If you don’t take the time to do your own research into which candidate would be best, and start voting for candidates other than Reps and Dems, then you’ll keep getting monopolyizing vampires to choose from, and they’ll keep degrading our country. The electors are going to choose the candidates based on voter history and polls. If enough people start voting for candidates other than Reps and Dems then eventually we could have someone truly great in there.

If you are truly being fair to both parties in this presidential race, then you would not just repeat the lies of the McCain Campaign saying “Who is Barack Obama and what is his relationship with Ayers the Terrorist?” You would not ask why Obama is running a negative ad campaign when you know he is only responding to the 100% negative ads of the McCain Campaign. This is not something that you do not know, but it is something that you do not mention and pretend that you do not know. This is insulting and condescending. You already know that Barack has denounced the actions of Ayres and they were both on a board to help the children in the community and that Barack was 8 years old at the time of these actions. You already know that McCain has a connection as well to the woman who headed this board which helped the children in the community and McCain also hired one of the other board members, who served with Aryes as well, as a consultant. Go onto Keith Olbermann MSNBC. The other networks want to help push McCain’s lies and SMEAR as legitimate, but McCain and Cindy and Palin are only pushing trash.

And the networks are trying to convince us that this is the way Republicans work. If that is true, that is sad and I cannot wait until the networks hire people of change that will challenge lies, Smears, hate and evil. On these blogs you have someone threatening to assassinate and you call yourself promoting the Republican way. I do not believe all Republicans are racists, but all racists seem to justify their actions by saying it is the Republican way. You are inciting violence and evil and that is not okay. You are not being impartial or fair or equal and you know it. I am shocked at what is considered okay to do and okay to say. I have never been involved in blogs or campaigns until now, but this is shocking and unbelievable and disappointed. The bright light is that November 4th is fast approaching and Obama will be the next president. After the election, I do not ever have to blog again, not will I have to listen to the stations that promoted this hate. I have some new stations. I love Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow.
You also already know that the board that Barack and Ayres served on was sponsored by a McCain supporter which links John Sydney McCain to Ayres also.

Can you say “dis-information”.

Fred, thanks for making the same important point that I made. Many people yell “Marx!” and “Socialist!” when they have no idea what they are talking about. I get tired of the ignorance, these people do not seem to realize we have practiced socialism in the USA for the last 60 years or so, and the removal of that, the privatization of public programs, is a large part of why we are currently in a mess. Under Bush, we’ve outsourced to business (whether it is healthcare, education or WAR) until all our taxes goes to private business rather than back to citizens. That needs to stop, and I hope Obama turns that around. It will improve mainstream America, you’ll SEE in the future.

I saw a clip of people interviewed in New York (most of them black) – they asked who they were voting for, all said Obama, then the interviewer asked them which of his policies they liked most – then listed JOHN MCCAIN’S ideas/policies – and, to a person, they said they liked McCain’s policies.
This proves racism really is alive and well in our country – not by the whites, as Obama’s camp and the media would like to say – but by black Americans who are voting for a black candidate, whom they don’t even know anything about.
Do we really think being black is a good enough reason to elect this man to the highest office in our country?

I never thought I would be in 2008 and TV networks and the McCain Campaign would be okay with inciting hate and abuse of the civil rights of a candidate while people are threatening lives based on lies conjured up by Palin and McCain and play it over and over and over again including the words said and I question the people who support and condone this behavior and despite the illegitimacy of it’s content and ignorance of their actions at a time when our Country is in it’s worse financial position in history where World leaders are coming together with us to try and figure this out before our system totally fails and John McCain is talking about Ayres who is not running for President, because he does not care about the American people and their current state more than he cares about attacking and slandering Obama by any means necessary. You clearly see that his bogus claim to put his campaign on hold was a lie and joke, because we are worse and he is out there attacking Obama rather than helping or caring about anyone but himself and his precious campaign. I Hope everyone is looking and taking notes on this man. He is dangerous. He is out of control. Palin is clueless and clearly unqualified. She couldn’t come up with a magazine title, yet alone strategy to help.
OBAMA/BIDEN – 2008 Evil Will Never Win No Matter Whether You Dress It Up As A Pitbull with lipstick Or A cranky, angry, mean old pretend Maverick

“The last time our economy collapsed because of greedy waal street traders and bankers, who came and saved our country, and with what? FDR, and with “socialism”.”
Wrong. The New Deal extended the Depression. Check the unemployment rates a few years after the New Deal was enacted. You can thank WWII for ending the depression.
“Do you like the fact that you have a retirement pension in the USA?”
You have to be joking to actually use that as a talking point. Are you talking about the retirement accounts that give us a paltry 2% return at best and is going broke. The retirement system that Congress can opt out of in favor of investing in the stock market? Must be nice to be one of the elite that gets to make that choice.

Hey Bob — You hope Obama turns all that around. I have news for you, he had chance to change that around by voting NO for that Bailout. But, he voted YES for the bailout of wall street, which the middle class did not want. So, Bob, Mr. Educated, Obama voted for voted no change, when he voted for that Bailout. He isn’t going to change anything. And if you think he is, you are not as smart as you think you are.

Ha, you sure it was a mistake?
I mean this isn’t McCain’s campaign, not much the obama campaign does that isn’t well thought out.

You’re welcome Angelo. You are right, I make over 250 thousand a year and will pay higher taxes, but 95% of you won’t. I don’t mind paying higher taxes because I have a very good living, and it is patriotic of me to help support old people’s healthcare or children’s education. I wish more people like me were not so damned greedy, they have plenty, I know they do because I know I do, but they have to be greedy and refuse to pay a little higher taxes. They suck for not thinking of our nation as a whole.

Most people are hypocrites, particularly politicians which we will see tonight during their last debate (say “last political supper”). When Obama says to older people: “I feel your pain, your loss of 401 (K) investments, your loss of retirement and pension. I promise I will work for you, That is the reason I am running”. He looks at the unemployed and say: ” I understand your employment problem. Looking at you I see your pain. I want solve your problem. That is the reason I am I running”. Then he looked at uninsured and say: ” I know how difficult it is without health insurance. My mother had the same problem. That is the reason I am running for presidency”. Then he looked at the people who lost the home and say” I know your loss of your home. I will fight for you. That is reason I am running. I want to help you” and so on, and so on. He recalls his grand parents’ difficulties. He recalls his childhood. His single parenthood. He recalls his mother’s difficulties. But he won’t mention his father, even though he keeps his name.
But he won’t tell the actual reason: “why he is running for presidency?.” His ambition, the life-time economic reward. He says that “without him this country will fail. McCain is not good for our economy, foreign policy, military strength”. He will say, without Obama, Economy will go down. He won’t tell you that he in running because:
US Presidency is the most-powerful position in this world, most rewarding in anybody’s life, most financially successful career during the presidency, after the presidency, until death. It will be a multimillion dollar, 40 year career for a person of age ~45. He says that he wants to help the voters because he can see the pain in their eyes. And he suggests that he will create JOBS (“JOIN OBAMA’S BS”) for you, but won’t tell how.
One may ask what about McCain. You know the answer. He likes the power but very little long-term rewards. He is 76 after the first term.
I wish these candidates should say: “I like the power of the Presidency. I like the long-term economic rewards. I like to live in White house. I like to help the people, if I can. So I am running. I need your vote. period.”

Sarah Palin had to switch colleges four times before she could graduate, so reports have said. That might if true be an explanation of the way she now runs from anyone asking her a question that isn’t sugar-coated. Her only talents, if adults can actually take this stuff seriously, are winking at the camera like a six-year old, using corny expressions like a six year-old, and trying to convince those who can buy such superficial nonsense that she is cute. She begins her one debate by declaring she doesn’t even intend to try answering questions she is given. Who is American history ever pulled that childish stunt before. In interviews she stumbles like someone drowning in ignorance and awkwardness. She got caught abusing her office as governor of Alaska to take revenge on her personal enemies. She has spoken at the Alaskan Independance Party’s gatherings to tell them she is behind them, and their ONLY political purpose is to take Alaska out of the United States to start a country of their own. Her husband was a member of this party. A real pair of patriots. Her nearly complete ignorance of America and the world come from this same lack of interest in America, but now with a chance to play on the big stage she winks, says cutsie things like “gotcha,” and shows that her only talent is throwing dirt at other Americans. Some Christian she is. Like so many of the Christian Right, her favorite and perhaps only use for the Bible is to use it to bash those who don’t agree with her. Christ’s only two commandments are to Love GOd and Love One Another, and Jesus tells us ALL the law and the prophets depend on these two laws. This is Jesus telling us what all Scripture means. What Bible are these hate-mongers reading anyway? We are supposed to love one another. We need now to work together. And all they can think to do is try to damage everyone they don’t like. This is not good.

SO WHAT? All this will amount to is perhaps a good opportunity for a one-liner at the beginning of the debate from Obama.
It offers absolutely nothing to be used against him since these are positions everyone already knows he has.
Made me LAUGH when I read the GOTCHAs neocons commented about this. Talk about DESPERATE people, HAHAHAaaaa! I am soooo looking forward to the Fourth!

Does he really believe these talking points were sent out accidently?
I guess sometime today the McCain campaign should also “accidently” send out pre-debate talking points. It would only be fair.

Hahaha…This is the worst tactic I’ve ever seen…
“Accidentally” spill debate points that are all just a bunch of crap Obama has been saying throughout the entire race, so people read them thinking they’re getting this “inside info” on what Obama will be talking about tonight…Just another ridiculous example of his campaign tactics…
In such troubling times, its unreal how much money he can throw away on his campaign…

Ah Bob — That’s not how it’s going to work. Yes you will be paying higher taxes, you will be working harder than you ever did before, and for what? So that unemployment can be extended, so that people don’t have to strive to get educated. Why work, when Bob is working for us?

We already have been screwed by Bush and the Republican party. It’s time for the raping of America to stop. No way to four more years of McBush. Debt not at 10 trillion. Two open wars. Declining environment that threatens us all. A housing and energy crises due to a lack of foresite and oversite. Illegal, partisan, and misleading behavior by the president and his staff. Enough is enough! Time for America to stand up and be proud again, time for a change to the world of the 21st century, there’s no time to continue to languish in the cess pool of hate and lies of the far right radicals. They’ve had their fun, did you enjoy it?

Lets tax the hell out of corporations. What’ll they do?? They move their operations overseas! More Americans will be unemployed. Less of a middle class; less corporate tax to pay for Obama’s “plan.” Sure, he’ll create WPA type jobs, and that’ll get ya by for awhile, but in doing so he’ll have to now tax the remaining upper & especially middle class that’s left so that there isn’t any anarchy during this Obama depression.
He who givith the no tax to the middle, will taketh away when the going (is) going to get tough!
India, China, Pakistan & Thiland LOVE our jobs!!

coolrepublica: “I guess sometime today the McCain campaign should also “accidently” send out pre-debate talking points. It would only be fair.”
It’s happened before – McCain’s camp has had their talking points “accidentally” aired on this blog previously.

These are “talking points”?…damn..no wonder why “campaign rhetoric” is so elevated!…as if Obama needs such “help” in regurgitating stump materials now..Junk ….

bob just said, nana, nana, nana, I’m taking my ball, and I going home, becuase no one will play nice with me.

Barack Obama must be the unluckiest guy in the world! As has been well documented in some media outlets and not so well in others, Obama spent 20 years sitting in the pews of a church run by Jeremiah Wright, who spewed such devout phrases as “God damn America!” And on the first Sunday after 9-11, while bodies were still being recovered, the reverend said it was “America’s chickens coming home to roost,” but poor unlucky Barack didn’t know about that; never heard Wright making off color ethnic charges. Nobody told him, so he must have been absent on the days Wright was howling at the moon.
So when the news came out that Wright was saying all these awful things and praising the anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan, Obama got tied to it. Imagine that?? That was unlucky enough. But then it turns out that Bill Ayers, the guy in whose home Obama’s political career was launched, is an unrepentant domestic terrorist.
Don’t you just hate when that happens?
No political candidate I know of has ever launched a political career at a fundraiser in the home of a stranger. But Obama knew nothing about Ayers, and it looked bad when it turned out that Ayers was a co-founder of the Weather Underground, which committed dozens of bombings, including of the Pentagon. Ayers was a fugitive for years, but skated because the government used illegal wiretapping to obtain evidence against him. But Ayers admits his role in the bombings and told The New York Times in a story that appeared on Sept. 11, 2001, that he does not regret the bombings and wished he’d done more. It was a stroke of terrible luck for Obama to have become “friendly,” as his campaign person put it in an interview last spring, with Bill Ayers. He now says he didn’t know about Ayers’ past.
How unlucky – he must have been out of the room when he was a law student at Harvard & Columbia and head of the Harvard Law Review; or on the law faculty at the University of Chicago when the case of the U.S. v. Ayers – which fell apart because of the exclusionary rule – was discussed?!?
Poor unlucky Barak..

In her senior thesis at Princeton , Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama
stated that America was a nation founded on ‘crime and hatred’.
Moreover, she stated that whites in America were ‘ineradicably racist’. The
1985 thesis, titled ‘Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community’ was
written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to ‘Whites at Princeton , it often
seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first…’ However, it was reported
by a fellow black classmate, ‘If those ‘Whites at Princeton ‘ really saw Michelle
as one who always would ‘be Black first,’ it seems that she gave them that
impression’.
Most alarming is Michele Obama’s use of the terms ‘separationist’ and
‘integrationist’ when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a ‘separationist’ view of race.
‘By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as
a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation
of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an
integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.’
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to
her ‘further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure
that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full
participant.’
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America , but
she elevates black over white in her world.

Sounds good to me

Angelo, Bob is right and I see his point: he doesn’t want to waste his time over arguing whether Obama is a bad candidate or not, because he is no doubt going to be the next President of the USA, so why even bother arguing with Obama detractors?

Hey all,
Is it not within our Constitutional rights to express our opinions, as long as they do not defame or insult others? I had placed a noted earlier and it was erased by the board. Sounds like censorship to me.

What a joke; “Obama showing steady leadership!” O could’ve gone back to Washington at the start like MAC did. O could’ve personally pressured congress to act instead of making “phone calls” and we’d be a week closer to the conclusion of this mess, and $1 Billion dollars less spent on the bail-out because of all the “pork” put in the bill to get it passed. — No, I’m sorry, Obama did not show leadership. He proved he’s a founding member of Gen X and “everything is about me” generation.
We’re so screwed!
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Hey Planewizard,
And please explain to me how were not screwed already and how someone can fck up as bad as your precious Republican president Bush. Dems in, GOP out.
President Obama will make things better (Admit it, he won already)

Who are you kidding? Do you really think this was “accidentally” leaked?
I doubt it. Seems more like a very deliberate strategy.

I really can’t believe that people are dumb enough to make a big deal out of ACORN. It’s really a non-issue. If I turn in 4 voter registration cards for my 4 dead grandparents, they aren’t automatically approved. You people act like you can’t think for YOURSELVES.
I can clearly see that there sure were a lot of children left behind in the past 8 years.

MagnifyingGlass:
duh – this is a blog, not a credible resource.

ShutUp, you’re funny, I like your style.

WELL, ANOTHER DAY IN THE LIFE OF BARACK OBAMA! WHAT A JOKE! HOW MANY “MISTAKES” IS HE GOING TO MAKE? HOW MANY DOES THIS MAKE? OH WELL, GUESS I LOST COUNT.

Justin Thyme: STAND-BY!!! All your questions will be answered tonight at the Debate. Listen closely!! For he has spoke on this subject a thousand times!!! There is obviously something you missed or failed to hear. So don’t miss the debate tonight….

There’s something about saying President Obama. Sounds too terroist. Come on people, pull your heads out and make the right vote.
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Hey TC,
I advise you to get used to it, b/c it’s what you’ll be hearing for the next 4yrs. President Obama will make things right.

ShutUp – Voter registration fraud is a big deal because with absentee voting, voting by mail and early voting (all which require no id) – it’s very easy to cast a fraudlent vote – not to mention that having to sift through these forms submitted by ACORN is going to be a burden on underfunded election boards and states. Whose tax dollars do you think will fund the overtime required to sift through all the forms submitted to the state by ACORN and researching which ones are legit and which ones are fraudulent. When taxpayer money is wasted, it’s everybody’s business.

I would suggest that ALL of you stop believing the CBS/NYT – Newsweek polls, etc. These polls are using bad samples. If any of you have had advanced statistics you can determine this quite easily. We are being setup for another October surprise along the lines of “Dewey Beats Truman”. Zogby and Rasmussen have it at 4-5% which is close to reality. Rasmussen is giving the Democrat sample a 6% advantage which 2% more than it has been in over 20 years. CBS/NYT is giving Democrats samples a 9 point advantage and a higher voting quotient. This results in a tremendously skewed poll. So buck up conservatives and ease off the excitement liberals. This is not over.

obama is a globalist, like his friend soros. to obama, the usa isn’t any better than kenya or s africa. we need a nationalist as president, not a citizen of the world

I am so sick of hearing that Obama is a terrorist because he has an ethnic name – I am German/Irish and have an Asian sounding last name – it’s just that a link to your ancestry – did we call either Bush a Nazi because they have a German last name? Let’s think before we speak like we were taught!!!!

uh, Justinthyme, you do know, don’t you, that Obama did not chose Ayer’s to be on the same committee. Ayers, and Obama, were chosen by somebody else. His being on a board with Ayer’s says nothing about who Obama would put on his cabinet, nominate for positions, etc. Maybe you should spend your time, as should Faux News, questioning the judgement of whoever selected Ayers.

Bush was a puppet and look what happened to the nation. Now different puppet masters have set up on the opposite side with Obama. How can’t you see it people? If he wins the “change” you people are thinking of isn’t going to be anything like the “change” Obama will bring. Bush’s puppet masters were just greedy old men. We will be wishing for thier predictable greed once Obama’s puppet masters begin pulling his strings.

The thought of a nasty and angry faced Michelle Obama as first lady is depressing indeed.
No wonder BO had an affair.
Keep this socialist anti-American couple out of the White House.

The American People are finally smelling what the Republicans have been shoveling for the last decade or so. No one wants to believe them, because they have been so dishonest for so long. Now they are in a tissy because they think our country will be ruined. NO it will take the smart party to clean up your mess. And this is your mess. But really don’t be so stupid that you are wondering why no one cares what you think. Because we don’t.

A lot of people are right when they ask just who is johm McCain I do not recall it ever being asked at least not this time around.What about his ties to supposed death squads in countries where we helped overthrow governments but looked the other way at things like this

Obama is a joke and will not be the next president. I do not trust him and will never respect him. I do not want a loser as a president. I want a man who can lead and he can’t. Obama sure has allot of your money to waste on campaigning. Maybe he should have put that money to good use instead of waisting it. I mean he is in such a big hurry to fix the economy well why is he waisting so much money.

If mainstream isn’t busy running interference for NObama, than they try to pass this off as a miscue,,,,swingvoters are not dumb and in fact take the time to look at both candidates themselves to sort out the hype and decide just what they would do in real time and not in peter pan time.

Hmmm. Wonder what McCain’s pre-debate talking points are?
1) Don’t bring up Ayers, but if asked, launch into a tirade that will drive my poll numbers even lower.
2) When asked about Palin, keep mentioning the size of the crowds because everyone knows that this is the true test of whether you are qualified for the vice presidency.
3) Apologize – again – to Mitt, Charlie Crist, Huckabee and Gindal; ask if they could please make time to go on tv for me – the Guiliani appearances actually hurt this week. I need better surrogates, and Tucker Bounds ain’t cuttin’ it.
4) Please remind Sarah – gently – not to answer reporters’ questions. Since we are not sure what she plans to lie about next, better not take that chance.
5) Tell as many people as possible that Obama is the erratic one – no, really, well, do what you can.
Posted by: Florida Republican | Oct 15, 2008 11:25:23 AM
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Too funny! ROFL
Obama Biden 08/12

ute – by saying “choose” I meant to imply that he wasn’t forced – yes, someone may have asked him. He made the decision to work on both of those boards – maybe it was a good decision, maybe it wasn’t – that’s for Obama to say, not me. As for how professional relationships impact key cabinet positions, ambassadorships, etc. – I urge you to take a look at history, especially recent history, to see how the professional relationships of former presidents (and the current one) resulted in who became key decision makers of this country. I’m not saying that Obama would appoint Ayers to a cabinet position – only that who candidates surround themselves with when building their careers typically become the people in top positions. It’s a fact.

Boy; I’m getting for getting out information all Americans should know about; regardless if it’s “scratch & sniff!”
Someone asked if I think we’re already screwed? I have a good answer:
I didn’t vote for Bush thew second time around, because I didn’t agree with Iraq (I did vote for W in 2000); so I’m not as biased as you conjur in your pea brain. (let me guess,,,you like style over substance?!?!)
But, it seems strange to me that the economy hummed along for 6 years under the “W” presidency, then, in 2006, Democrats took control of Congress, and all of a sudden, things started to go down-hill.
I should also point out that you should look for a letter dated May 6, 2006, in which John McCain wrote to congress (and 18 other senators) telling them exactly what would happen with Fannie & Freddie should they take no action! They didn’t and the rest is as they say,,,,,”history”. It’s in the federal register,,,,,look it up!
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Planewizard,
So what your trying to say is that it wasn’t bush’s fault, and it was the democrats after all. Well then we need to start righting some letters so we can let the world know we have the wrong man. Do me a favor try to make sense b/f you write. President Obama will make things better

I don’t think this was an accident. These items don’t even read like talking points. Talking points would be short phrases, one for each subject. For example, “* Expect Bill Ayers distraction”. Instead, these are long and complete sentences, each containing many clauses — not exactly “points”.

Obama is clearly a decent upstanding American citizen, a god fearing christian and a solid family man. Gonna resort to name calling now? What is this, romper-room time for the neo cons? No wonder you’re losing. America’s a little more serious about this election than championing in school yard bullying or fear mongering by intolerant fearful wimps too afraid to find out the truth beyond talk radio.

“Obama sure has allot of your money to waste on campaigning. Maybe he should have put that money to good use instead of waisting it.”
Let’s talk about Obama and money. I’m really interested to know how he could afford a world trip and all his schooling. That has never been explained. He did have some well connected college roommates though…

If we were to see McCain’s talking points?
1. Slander Obama
2. Demonize citizens
3. Slander any organization Obama has ever had dealings with. Leave out the part where McCain has as well.
4. Slander any city Obama has lived in.
5. Use “war hero” and “Maverick” a lot.
6. Constantly change positions until voters are confused.
7. Demonize, demonize, demonize!
8. Hint Obama is a terrorist, ignore base when they yell “kill him”, turn around and pretend to respect Obama due to base acting stupid, cry because some Senator said McCain was as bad as George Wallace, blame that on Obama.
9. LIBERAL PRESS!
10. Demonize Wall Street righ after inviting them to a fundraiser and letting them know we’re just pretending.
11. Whine about whining.

What have republicans been shoveling? Tell me, why do people become liberals? Is it perhaps so they don’t have to feel a sense of responsibility for behavior? Is it to embrace an anything goes mentality? Is it so morals can be damned, because if it feels good I’m doin it!!!! You talk about republicans shoveling? What about liberals shoveling their garbage down our throats? If you want to raise your children in a Godless, immoral society, then create a place where you can do that, just don’t push it on America. GROW UP

re: “You know, even if you thought/think McCain is a good choice (and many do), there is no way Palin should be near the white house.”
This is where we disagree:
As far as I’m concerned, I still cannot understand why the Democratic Party picked Barack Obama as their candidate; he has no experience at actually doing anything, except for the stuff he keeps claiming he had nothing to do with…. Ayers, ACORN, Wright, Rezko…
So, personally, it is Barack Obama whom I think should not be anywhere near the White House.
I think John McCain is a great choice.
And why do I love Gov. Palin?
I love her because she is saying everything to Barack Obama that Hillary Clinton wanted to say but couldn’t.

We agree with New York. We are sorry to insult people but… HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU VOTE FOR MCCAIN WITH “THAT PALIN WOMAN” on the ticket? She is CLUELESS and he is 72! May he live to be 96 (our wishes for him), but statistics –heck even the bible, is not on his side. How can you put this country at risk with having that woman so close to power? We have tried to understand Palin and would WELCOME any and all positives about her and her ability to run the USA (Yup! would have voted McCain had he run with Romney, Lieberman, or any credible man or woman)–but thus far there are none. What is there to think about here? He is 72 and she is a ditz!!!!

Planewizard –
Can you point out exactly which legislation Dems passed and Bush signed in the past 2 years that caused this financial wreckage?
Of course not.

Obama’s campaign says McCain has been erratic, dishonorable, unsteady- and did we say erratic?- by launching character attacks.
Funny stuff.
It’s a good heads up though: drink on erratic, Main Street, and middle class.

I already own 3 Brooklyn bridges,,,,,and yet to have any of them delivered to my doorstep…..THE SAME DARN SALESMAN keeps letting excuses slip out of his glib mouth,,,,,the last excuse is UPS is late in putting together a step-van large enough to transport…….the one b4 that was that MERICAN CHOPPER ran out of stash while in the process,,,,,,the first was to be done by LEEEEEEEMAN bros,,,,and oh well you can just guess that outcome…..
c,mon PSCHYO politics is for captive society…

Looking at these comments I wonder how many times people will say other person’s political views are stupid – the only stupid people are the ones who think their opinion is the only intelligent one and how can others not see the obvious truth that their views are the only sensible ones?

You know it’s really weird but if you read through the critiques of character and campaign here it’s often difficult to tell which candidate is being criticized.
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Sadly if it weren’t business as usual the Republican candidate would be distinctly different because he would be the one saying American sorta stuff… like… you know… “hey let’s whats do is run the government according to the rule of law.” Or something totally wacko like that.

Iraq & Afghanistan; funny,,,,how you look on a map and they’re right on either side of IRAN!
I talked to a 25 yr old & an 22 yr old last night (I’m in my 50′s btw); they NEVER heard of the Iranian Hostage Crisis or the taking of the US Embassy in Tehran, nor the botched rescue attempt etc.
Nope, their librel, union led teachers never taught any of that recent US history. They “overtaught” the civel war, slavery and provided enough white guilt to fill a slave ship; but no recent history (1979)
But my point is, IRAN started the Islamic revolution and maybe, JUST MAYBE, we’re exactly where we should be in order to keep the world safe??
I hate being a policeman, but that’s what it’s come to. When Europe can figure out their identity, perhaps they’ll help? —-Nah!!!!!!!!

Liberalism = Mental Disorder
Obama = Marxist Socialist

I really wish McCain would ask Obama what every conservatine country loving American would like to know regarding just what exactly he did hear in Rev Wright’s church for 20 years? Were Obama’s kids sitting next to him when the fanatically racist anti-American rants were coming out of ol’ Jeremiah’s mouth? It’s funny how McCain has been pressured to silence his supporters calling Obama a terrorist, but why didn’t Mr Obama try to silence Rev Wright when he called America the biggest terrorist state in the world? Or when he said America created the AIDS virus to kill black people. What did Obama find so inspiring about Rev Wrihgt that he titled a book after one of his speeches?? Rev Wright was a radical anti-American who was very influencial in Chicago and he is much more dangerous than a few McCain supporters shouting that Obama is a terrorist. Obama has no problem telling McCain to shut his people up, but for 20 years he endorsed the ultimate anti-American mob mentality. Please all you Obama supporters-WAKE UP!!!!

Face it folks. The media is bought by Obama. If Obama gave $800,000.00 to ACORN for ballot box stuffing votes… how much are the backroom bribes to journalists to hide the truth about Obama worth? This is not coincidence, baby.

Why morans truly believe the point were released by mistake. Clever tactic to more ‘Obama’ speak out.

I really wish McCain would ask Obama what every conservatine country loving American would like to know regarding just what exactly he did hear in Rev Wright’s church for 20 years? Were Obama’s kids sitting next to him when the fanatically racist anti-American rants were coming out of ol’ Jeremiah’s mouth? It’s funny how McCain has been pressured to silence his supporters calling Obama a terrorist, but why didn’t Mr Obama try to silence Rev Wright when he called America the biggest terrorist state in the world? Or when he said America created the AIDS virus to kill black people. What did Obama find so inspiring about Rev Wrihgt that he titled a book after one of his speeches?? Rev Wright was a radical anti-American who was very influencial in Chicago and he is much more dangerous than a few McCain supporters shouting that Obama is a terrorist. Obama has no problem telling McCain to shut his people up, but for 20 years he endorsed the ultimate anti-American mob mentality. Please all you Obama supporters-WAKE UP!!!!

Even if BO is not elected the president,that will be just fine.The people in OUR country will be exposed for what they are…..
SO…. ask your self have you turned in “old grand pa” or “your self”.
If not your the hypocrite and true Americans will know who you are VERY SHORTLY….

Can any McCain supporter EXPLAIN this newfound link between McCain and a terrorist? From Wiki: William E. Timmons is a lobbyist in Washington, D.C. who has worked for all of the Republican presidents since Richard M. Nixon. He is part of the John McCain presidential campaign, 2008, and the lead of the presidential transition team.[1] He was a senior adviser to Vice President George Bush in 1988 and Senator Bob Dole in 1996[1] and is the founder and chairman emeritus of lobbying firm Timmons and Company, which he founded in 1975 after leaving the administration of President Gerald Ford.[2]. He has lobbied for Freddie Mac, as well as for Saddam Hussein, having been in contact with Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, who was convicted in 2006 for violation of the Foreign Agent Registration Act [3]. After the demise of his employer, he is now working for Republican Presidential candidate John McCain as his transition chief.[4]

This is the way a top flight lawyer would layout his talking points, in complete sentences. It alswo shows taht Mc Cain has nothing left unless Obama provides it via a major gaffe. The economic meltdown began in late 2004 early 2005 with first housing slips (that caused by creation of mortgage backed securities and huge demand from global fund managers seeking more than 1% offered by the Fed and who thought all mortgages were safe. Those who feel Obama can’t lead are either scared of change or hiding a racisim they can’t face up to

The Republicans are like battered wives…. They keep taking all this abuse and think everything will be OK as long as they keep voting for the same policies. Why is it so hard to see that things are worse now and the same policies won’t bring us out? Regardless of what changes Obama wants to bring to the table…It might get worse…it might get better… At least we know we won’t continue on our current path.
Trickle down economics are proven not to work yet people continue to vote against their own best interest. Hence the wife beating analogy.
Trickle down economics are proven not to work yet people continue to vote against their own best interest.

Dave: “I really wish McCain would ask Obama what every conservatine country loving American would like to know regarding just what exactly he did hear in Rev Wright’s church for 20 years? ”
Do you think this issue hasn’t been covered? For about 4 weeks, headline news, Wright-all-the-time on the networks?
The majority of Americans don’t agree with your extremist assessment of the implications of Obama being a faithful churchgoer who had a classic fire-and-brimstone pastor (who was/is an honorably discharged Marine). We’ve heard about it. But we have heard nothing about how McCain would be any better, or even different, than President Bush. Is there really nothing good to say about the McCain/Palin ticket?

Jill: “Most people have already made up their minds about who they’re voting for and McCain’s SCARED. You don’t have to believe it, but’s it TRUE.”
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Jill, I don’t know if McCain is scared or not (do you know him? Apparently you know what he’s thinking). What I do know is I’m scared – that Obama could become our next president. Between his arrogance and the division he’s caused and that of his campaign, associates and supporters like you, it scares me to death that he will have basically unrestrained power with Pelosi and Dean in charge in Congress.
If he wins, I hope you’re really prepared for what could happen.

mastermappert writes: “A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear – ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!”
Right you are, mastermappert, but guess what? The enemy from within has been running our country into the ground with its lies and wars for the last eight years…

Face it folks. The media is bought by Obama. If Obama gave $800,000.00 to ACORN for ballot box stuffing votes… how much are the backroom bribes to journalists to hide the truth about Obama worth? This is not coincidence, baby.
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Bill,
Oh I’m sorry i thought that FOX was bought already by the republican party. I guess i was wrong. Please REPUBS, do me a favor and try to make sense b/f you rant. President Obama will make things better

Here’s something you might want to consider if voting for Obama, Do you realize that if Obama applied for a job with the FBI, he would be denied because of his past assoications like Ayers yet, he can run to be our President? He’s not even qualified to be his own bodyguard.
This is unbelievable & very scary.

I don’t know these sound pretty good to me…
attack policies
and attack delivery.
but 80% of it should be tell America what you are going to do.
I bet if McCain’s talking points were accidentally sent out …it would be the exact opposite.
80% attack (and only on the character of people he met a couple of times…ugh) and make sure to distract away from the issues…because then they will see it ‘s the same Bush Time
the same Bush Channel…
and I am not necessarily referring to the Bush Family.

tracim??!!! Obama has caused division? You guys just appear to not be able to process anymore. That is all there is to it. 8 years of Bush, followed by this mean nasty McCain campaign has caused the division. Good grief can you own anything?

AND THIS IS AMERICA LAND OF THE FREE? I BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY THESE PEOPLE AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND. HOW SAD THIS IS CLAIMED TO BE A CONTEST NOT RACIALLY MOTIVATED AND YET IT IS CLEAR THAT IT IS ALL ABOUT RACE. I AM SORRY FOR US IN THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE WE ARE SINKING DEEPER AND DEEPER AND WILL GO FURTHER BECAUSE OF IGNORANCE.

These are not Obama talking points and this is not a slip. The Obama campaign is clearly trying to inoculate their candidate from McCain prior to the debate and is using the media to do it. It is just one more dishonest tactic from a dishonest candidate. If the American People buy this brand we can expect a lot more of this sort of dishonest garbage.

McCain had idiots running his campaign. They forced Palin on him. Once the American people found out what a nut case she was, everything and his credibility went south. He thought the American people were stupid. Now he is paying for it. Now you see how sad republicans are.

and Debbie Barnes
Palin would be denied for Vogel and the AIP…and her IQ test.
McCain wouldn’t pass the psychological exam.
“too bipolar and erratic”
and that doesn’t even bring up the health and age issues.

CAN’T WAIT FOR THE DEBATE!!!
Obama is going to tear the old man up tonight, especially if he brings up Ayers!!!
All of McNasty’s ANGRY MOBS demanding that he go after Barack tonight on his supposed “associations.”
All I can say is, “do you think that Obama isn’t prepared for that stuff you old fool?”
It will be bloody – don’t hold back this time Barack, take it right to the lying old fool!!!!
Obama in a LANDSLIDE in 20 days!!!!!!!!

get yer CANNED OBAMA,,,,,right here get yer CANNED OBAMA,,,,,,I know it sez
SPIN AND HYPE on the label,,,but trust me its obama

Obama’s “dog and pony show” is getting so old… same old stuff. His talking points are the same. What has he ever done for this country?

Cant resist tee-hee:
Barack Obama must be the unluckiest guy in the world! As has been well documented in some media outlets and not so well in others, Obama spent 20 years sitting in the pews of a church run by Jeremiah Wright, who spewed such devout phrases as “God damn America!” And on the first Sunday after 9-11, while bodies were still being recovered, the reverend said it was “America’s chickens coming home to roost,” but poor unlucky Barack didn’t know about that; never heard Wright making off color ethnic charges. Nobody told him, so he must have been absent on the days Wright was howling at the moon.
So when the news came out that Wright was saying all these awful things and praising the anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan, Obama got tied to it. Imagine that?? That was unlucky enough. But then it turns out that Bill Ayers, the guy in whose home Obama’s political career was launched, is an unrepentant domestic terrorist.
Don’t you just hate when that happens?
No political candidate I know of has ever launched a political career at a fundraiser in the home of a stranger. But Obama knew nothing about Ayers, and it looked bad when it turned out that Ayers was a co-founder of the Weather Underground, which committed dozens of bombings, including of the Pentagon. Ayers was a fugitive for years, but skated because the government used illegal wiretapping to obtain evidence against him. But Ayers admits his role in the bombings and told The New York Times in a story that appeared on Sept. 11, 2001, that he does not regret the bombings and wished he’d done more. It was a stroke of terrible luck for Obama to have become “friendly,” as his campaign person put it in an interview last spring, with Bill Ayers. He now says he didn’t know about Ayers’ past.
How unlucky – he must have been out of the room when he was a law student at Harvard & Columbia and head of the Harvard Law Review; or on the law faculty at the University of Chicago when the case of the U.S. v. Ayers – which fell apart because of the exclusionary rule – was discussed?!?
Poor unlucky Barak..

Is is just me, or does all the McCain supporters posting here come across as complete morons?

I have a dream that one day I can have 10 minutes where I don’t hear or see the word OBAMA.

Obama’s own words from his books.
From Dreams of My Father: ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.’
From Dreams of My Father : ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.’
From Dreams of My Father: ‘I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.’
And FINALLY the Most Audacious one of ALL of them!!!
From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’

Same old crap from Obama and I’m sure his zombie followers will applaud his every word.

Talk about McCain’s associations, or Palin’s associations. Have you heard the people at their rallies? Crazy people!

Tired of the Bull |I suppose that was love………Man I was on that freedom bus years ago,,,,,you had my rhetoric oalmosty word for werd……Im from detroit and helfped geft COLEMan Young eleceted,,,,and every Mayor since has be Af-merican……just look at Detroit and you can see the CHANGE…..weeee wwwweeeee ooooooooo
tawk about tired of cow pie

Of course this was accidental! If you believe that then believe the rest of his bs. He won’t raise taxes on anyone with income under $250K. He will just take back the cuts Bush made so I guess he isn’t raising them if you look at it that way. What is this country thinking! Take the scales from your eyes and see him before it’s to late. THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU VOTE!!!

sigh, you do not know what you are talking about, and you slight your NATO partners to pretend we do not have to pay billions into defense (that I think quite unnecessary). I wish you WOULD stop causing trouble over here with your radar stations pointed at Russia. There is a shift in the balance of power happening, and you cannot see it because you watch USATV. Russia, Europe and China, along with the Middle East and Africa, is starting to become healthily independent of your country and economy. Our Euro is worth twice as much as your dollar. Do you know why? Because you voted for idiots who like to start wars and allow wall street to deteriorate in a greed party. I hate how so many American Republicans think they are saving the world with their military-industrial complex. It’s a lie, we can get along better if you don’t use it to start wars and politically divide the world.

Soft of like the “leak” of his special prayer that he left at the Wailing Wall.
“and may God bless Tiny Tim”

If Bill Ayers is such a HORRIBLE person, why does he hold a distinguished office in a major university? He’s a TEACHER, not a terrorist. He’s a THINKER, not a criminal. So come on.

Americans for Tax Reform today released the following “top five” facts related to the Obama tax hike on small businesses:
1. Two-thirds of small business profits are earned in households making more
than $250,000 per year — the very households Obama is shouting from the
rooftops that he will raise taxes on (Source: IRS Statistics of Income
Bulletin*). Small business profits are used to create jobs and invest in
America. This is the answer to the Obama campaign’s irrelevant
claim that the number of small businesses affected will be small — the
fact is that the bulk of profits will face a tax hike.
2. Small businesses pay income taxes at the household level. This means
that the Obama plan to raise tax rates is a direct tax hike on small
businesses — sole proprietorships, partnerships, S-corporations, and
family farms
3. The tax rate on the lion’s share of small business income could
reach 54.9 percent under a President Obama (the individual top rate will
climb from 35 percent to 39.6 percent and the Social Security/Medicare
tax rate could climb from 2.9 percent to 15.3 percent. Put those
together, and you get 54.9 percent) (Source: http://www.barackobama.com)
4. This 54.9 percent tax rate would be the highest since the Carter
Administration, when America suffered through double-digit inflation and
unemployment (Source: Congressional Budget Office)
5. America’s 26 million small businesses employers give a paycheck to
116 million employees (Source: Census Bureau). When small business taxes
go up, millions of these employees will be at risk of being laid off.
“Obama’s tax increases will only affect you if you have a 401(k), have any savings, buy things from small businesses or are looking for a job,” said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. “If you fall into one of these categories, his policies will screw you. Otherwise, you’re fine.”

Barack is the strongest candidate in the race, will take us safely into the next decade, is a great communicator, smart. Palin is a complete moron, I’m sorry but she is. I’ve never seen anything like it. Bad, bad choice by the McCain campaign. If he had chosen someone else, maybe the race is closer.
Let’s just vote Obama in and get this country on the right track. I don’t judge Barack for his Ayers and Wright relationships like I don’t judge McCain for his Iran-Contra support and partnership with Sarah Palin. Obama is just simply better for the job than McCain.

“If you are not a liberal when you are young, you don’t have a heart. If you are not conservative when you are older, you don’t have a brain.”
Well, you old guys really blew it the last 8 years.

tracim813,
First i would like to sau, i respect you maturity and the yelling wasn’t mainly aimed at you. And yes i would listne b/c i like to see other perspectives of this race. The only problem with that is when someone says something that makes you want to pull your hair out. If you look at the other comments I’ve made, you’ll see people try their best to bash, but instead they sound stupid. Anyway i like talking to people with intelligence (your a good example) but once the stupidity comes out, the angry me comes out

This quote from Chuck really merits some examination:
And FINALLY the Most Audacious one of ALL of them!!!
From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’
Even out of context I understand this statement. And I agree with it. Had more Germans been so principled, the Nazi Holocaust may have been prevented. And as political winds are shifting in an ugly direction, I will stand with and for the oppressed underdog too, whoever it is. It’s the AMERICAN thing to do!

Prove me wrong please. Show me how far the media has come and dare to address any of the above statements I’ve listed. I am not afraid to apologize and say that I am wrong, but I am sick of hearing about Ayres and Obama. 2 McCain supporters served on the same board with Ayres and Obama because it was to help kids in the community. Ayres is not running for President !!!! Why are we not hearing about McCain and Keating 5 and McCain and Iran Contra, McCain and Abortion Hate groups rallies that John Sidney McCain attending which supported killing doctors and Sarah and Todd Palin’s Alaskan Independence Party and McCain and how he voted against the veterans and your rebuttal of McCain not be a 30 second side mention after a 20 minute blowup of McCain’s misrepresentations and lies. What it looks like to me is that Republican people own these stations. Be fair to America and if they have a right to know about Ayres, who isn’t running for President, then we have a right to know about John McCain’s connections as well Palin’s connections, otherwise you and John McCain and Sarah Palin are the biggest deceiving hypocrites of all time. What you are doing is not Republican politics but modern day racism.

“I do not want her running my company, my house, or even my daughter’s daycare’
And you would trust someone with even less experience to run your company? Maybe if you owned Fannie and Freddie.

McCain brings up Ayers
Obama brings up Keating 5
McCain says Obama worked with Ayers a couple of times to fundraise for schools
Obama ties McCain directly to the keating 5 scandal which he was one of the members who tried to stall the hearings and let deregulation continue
Palin brings up rev wrights anti-american statements, and the sermons he was not present in…
Obama brings up the Palin’s involvment and membership to the Alaskan Independence Party that wanted to secede from America, thats treason…
McCain brings up rezko, who was indicted on charges unrelated to Obama
Obama brings up Rick Davis, mccains economic advisor, who up until last month was paid by fannie mae and freddie mac
But all of this, DOES NOT MATTER….one of these guys is going to be president, so it matters on HOW they are going to solve this financial crisis….If anyone of these men is guilty of criminal activity it would have been done by now….STOP the distractions and talk about the issues BOTH OF YOU

Looks more like a stunt by Dear Leader Barry to draw fire away from his partners in the Association of Corrupted Organizations for Registration of Non-Eligible Voters or ACORN.
Illegal registered voters are the loaded gun left out on the table with a two-year old in the room. Must we wait until the gun is fired before we correct the situation? Or do we act rationally and remove the gun, and punish those who think it ok to leave the gun there in the first place.

sigh, liberals are intolerant? Ok, go back to sucking up Hannity and O’reilly’s kind tolerance and forgive my ranting…

…does Mr. Teflon really believe that we are stupid enough when he gives us the big 95% of folks who are getting a tax cut WHEN ABOUT HALF OF THAT 95% OF THOSE FOLKS DON’T HAVE TO PAY TAXES IN THE FIRST PLACE? Now, who did we say is stupid (hold up your CHANGE placards, folks and follow the arrows to the cliff).

“sigh, liberals are intolerant? Ok, go back to sucking up Hannity and O’reilly’s kind tolerance and forgive my ranting…”
Please point out where I said I liked O’Reilly or Hannity. It’s tough to debate properly when people just make stuff up like you did.

Hey-
Anyone concerned about Obama smoking again? Smoking those Newports will certainly increase his chances of a heart attack in office. Biden’s secret plan to become POTUS.

Enjoy your moment of Glory with Obama in THE LEAD!!!! This year the Democrats were handed the election in a sliver platter and they’ve managed to make it a close race by electing an extreme far left candidate. If Republicans and moderate Democrats come out in force, McCain will win.. Democrat for McCain…

I don’t think this was an “accidental” leak… it was intended for the media to jump on it and thus help Obama push his message, especially to those few undecided voters out there. It makes it easier for voters to weigh the pros and cons of backing Obama; it’s almost like having a direct conversation with Sen. Obama…. It’s called thinking outside the box. This will also help people watching the debate tonight to make-up their mind on who they think will win.

jhw539;
“You’re wrong!!”

Obama is not running for office to avenge the mistreatment of any one people. He is running for ALL people, even the ones who are hateful and cruel in their comments. McCain can not, with out any level of integrity, attempt to expose any wrongs of Obama’s without realizing his own. REPUBLICANS, JOHN MCCAINS HAND ARE NOT CLEAN. So stop the fantasy. Should Obama win, you need to be realistic so that you will be onboard to moving together toward a better America.

Obama is a decent, kind, upstanding, intelligent Amarican patriot who loves his country and wants America to be the light of the world, he’s a god-fearing Christian who believes in Jesus as the Savior, and he’s a solid loyal family man and husband. He will be one of the greatest Presidents of the United States of America.

McShame = Keating 5
Obama was never indicted like McShame and attack puppy Falin.

a old man told me to look at the big picture. it takes years for a crash like this to happen. he said look at the past. every time a rep was in office some thing has happen. They got blamed for it. but it takes more then 8 years for a crash like this to happen.Those people who got those loans had a 10 year payment of the small payment before the big payment came up. thats when they couldn’t afford to pay the payments.So this really started 10 years ago when they took out those loans not knowing what they were really getting into.But sense the rep where in office it was their fault.how do i know about the 10 year clause because i was stupid enough to have falling into it and lost my home.i don’t blame the rep for it i blame myself for being so stupid. but most people have to blame someone so its the person in office. Bush.

McCain supporters are clinging to a vain hope that America will dumb down so their man can keep the republicans in control of the white house. Unfortunately for them, America is waking up and will keep McCain out of office. After reading so many hateful propagandist lies posted by McCain supporters I can see that there is an urgency in their bitter barnstorming. They know their voice in government will be diminished for the next few generations and it appears to be very difficult for these hateful folks to accept. I know I have nothing in common with these McCain supporters and it makes me happy to vote against them as well as McCain himself. Hopefully, there aren’t as many nonthinking zealot robots out there as this forum would seem to indicate. Say farewell to influence and relevance conservatives. The train wreck is nearly complete. Remember, we Democrats will be in control over the congress. And it means that judicial nominations will be made by Obama. I’m just hoping for a Democratic sweep over all the republicans, that way we’ll have a filibuster-proof majority. Politics are really fun now. Have a great day of freedom. Obama in a landslide!

With 6 years of total Republican control there is no excuse for letting this housing crises and subsequent bank crash from metastisizing. I don’t blame the democrats because they did not and do not have the kind of control that the Bush administration enjoyed for 6 long years just prior to this campaign, period. The Republican policies have failed us completely both in domestic and foreign policies.

Sound familiar?
“Esteem needs were given to the people as XXXX did not blame them for the loss of the war. Rather, XXXX told his followers that the loss was the fault of the XXX, the source of their current misery. In addition, XXX made many people with low esteem feel better about themselves through the other needs such as belongings. XXX made many members feel like family and hence, was able to gain their support. People have the quintessential longing for self-actualization which is the desire for self-fulfillment, the realization of ones potential. XXXX took kids without homes and older people without hope and gave them a goal, a duty. As people were able to join the ranks of what appeared to be an elitist type party they were able to feel as if they have achieved something, reach their potential.”

I’M WRITING IN CAPS BECAUSE YOU ALL NEED TO READ MY POST :: THIS IS NOT A LEAK. THIS MEMO IS POSTED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF BARACK OBAMA’S WEBSITE FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD TO SEE. DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY ACCIDENTALLY POSTED AN INTERNAL MEMO ON THE FRONT PAGE OF HIS WEBSITE?

Wow! The comments below by obama is the one are unbelievable. I am hoping for a President that brings us together — you are hoping for the opposite. You seem to believe that I should choose Obama so that he can make people pay for past mistakes? So that my children will have to pay for mistakes they didn’t make but that others did before them?……………….I teach my children to be respectful — to look at a person’s soul and what is in their heart. Your comments show that you only have hate and anger. Yes — there are racists in this world — but guess what — there are many more of us that don’t see color — we see a human being first. Some day, I hope you can do the same and that you are able to live without all the anger you obviously have inside…………If Obama does what you write — then you didn’t make an argument to vote for Obama — you made an argument to vote against him. We need someone that will end the hatred that you profess and someone that will work for the good of ALL Americans.

Re: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” …
On 9-11-2001, and for a week or more thereafter, a Jewish woman in Seattle picketed in front of a local Mosque – DEFENDING the rights of Muslims to practice their faith in peace. She suffered insults and even thrown objects, but her act of courage in defense of humanity and freedom likely saved the Mosque from considerable hate-driven vandalism, and its members from harassment and assault.
The act so touched the leader of that Mosque that he stated on national television that he would have to go and reconsider his attitudes toward Jews.
This woman’s act may not have brought us world peace, but she did defuse a number of drive-by attacks on that Mosque and she did encourage a bit of understanding between Muslims and non-Muslims in her community.
If an American Jewess can “stand with the Muslims” during a time of ugliness, then I think we can excuse a candidate for the presidency proposing to do the same thing should the need arise.

msa123, yes, it is clear to me. That is how Bush convinced Americans to go to war, right? You forgot to add that xxx also used a lot of nationalist patriotism to get his following, which is also what Bush did.

Re: “McCain will certainly have the edge tonight given these brand new revelations!”
Hook… line… and sinker.

The only CHANGE we are going to see from either candidate will be in our pockets. Let’s get real and concentrate on our country’s problems. OMG I bet both candidates chewed gum after the bell rang in school! Was it bubble gum or chewing gum that is the question?

Let’s face it..
Republicans really blew it when Palin was on the ticket.
Even big republican guns like Brent Scowcroft or Colin Powell refuse to endorse McCain/Palin.
Instead of blaming the media or Obama republicans should blame the bad campaign on them self. They have chosen a path that is out of touch with reality.

you can blame clinton for it. he is the one who passed the bill that allowed the people to get those loans. He push the lenders to loan to the poor. Then the lenders took it father by making millions off of the people.The last couple years have been the worse. why didn’t the dem controlled congress do anything? they wanted it ti crash why? so they could blame Bush and get control of the whole white house because this would look bad for the rep.. so it is the dem’s fault also.

rickm: you are right, and it’s happening all over again, in an opposite fashion… but then again, much the same….

CHANGE IS code word for FLIP-FLOP

“msa123, I don’t think the lynch rallies of McCain”
Bit of a stretch..no?

RickM, you seem somewhat intelligent. However your last post is really not a post asking me a question. It’s just vague talking points like I would hear from a boring debate. So instead of responding with some boring generalizations and stereotypes of my own, I’ll just tell you that I look forward to total Dem control. Considering the history making low approval they have achieved since ’06, nothing could be better for the conservative movement than the Dems overreaching (and we know they will – see Assault Weapons Ban that helped hand over Congress to the GOP). You’re right about the Repubs and Bush failing miserably, but the reason they failed is because they attempted to be Democrat-lite and go on drunken spending orgies like the Dems used to (and will again soon). I want reps that are free from corruption and really believe in the free market principles rahter than paying lip service to get votes while acting socialist when they get to Washington.

Change Agent said: It is about Country. It is about restoring the American dream for all people. It is about giving the middle class and poor of all races a hand up.
Plumber to Obama: “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more. Isn’t it?”
Obama: “It’s not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody that is behind you, that they have a chance for success too. I think that when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Now according to a later interview, this Plumber, had just acquired his new business….and now…Obama’s tax plans will strip him of that. Some plan!
This tax plan won’t hurt the rich…they’re already putting their money in accounts that wont’ be taxed. This is going to hurt those, that have worked long, and hard to build something, for their future, and their childrens future. Now because of this socialist “wealth redistribution” , his money will go to people who don’t even pay taxes.
It won’t be everyones’ American Dream.
Remember to say thank you to those who made this all possible when you get your money, and I don’t mean Barack, and Michelle Obama.

Early Voting Trend in Swing states!
The future is looking brighter.
“God Bless America”

Over and over this political season, the DNC and Senator Obama have betrayed millions of Democratic voters by refusing to count their votes, by refusing to hold a non-rigged convention, by pretending unity when there is not unity.
A time comes when silence is betrayal. –quoted by Martin Luther King in his address “Beyond Vietnam – A Time To Break Silence”
From the earliest days of the primary season – when not one man running for the Democratic nomination and not one DNC leader acknowledged, let alone condemned, the misogynistic and sexist portrayals of Senator Clinton – to the present moment – when Senator Obama, who claims the polls have made it clear his November victory is secure, cannot stop long enough to acknowledge his own betrayals and deceits and thus to show that he can not only win this election but win it without leaving a badly splintered Party in his path, the Democratic Party leadership has shown that it does not understand or appreciate the betrayal that has been experienced by millions of Democrats.

“This tax plan won’t hurt the rich…they’re already putting their money in accounts that wont’ be taxed. This is going to hurt those, that have worked long, and hard to build something, for their future, and their childrens future. Now because of this socialist “wealth redistribution” , his money will go to people who don’t even pay taxes. ”
Exactly. The rich will hide their money. Just like the Queen of Mean said, “We don’t pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes …”

Has the DNC or Obama produced doc’s of his certified birth certificate?
no they haven’t. one judge order Obama to hand over the papers but he said no.
factcheck said the one they have is real but they won’t hand it over either.
the court said they wanted the long form birth papers and Obama still hasn’t done it.
Now Obama has filed a paper to have it dismissed.why?
If he showed the paper it would be over with what is he hiding?
is it because there is no long form paper to show?
i am sure we will find out AFTER the election.
To many question out there that Obama will not even try to answer why?
Mccain gave his papers right away why not Obama? is he to good to show a paper we all have to show at some time in our lives to get DL to vote. This is someone running for the highest job in our country and he is not willing to show it.

sigh, sorry to say my hero, and I bet yours, too, was the only one who would have done that. I would have voted Republican for the first time in my life if Ron Paul had won their ticket. After he got pushed out of the party for heresy (for trying to make the party return to what it is supposed to be), I had a choice. Go with McCain, who was obviously under noecon control, or go with Obama, who would at least push back against the creeps who have been at the wheel for the last eight years. You went one direction, I went the other, so we cancel out each others’ votes. We’ll see about the rest of the votes.

An old sea story
There’s an old sea story in the Marine Corps about a lieutenant who inspected his Marines in the field, and afterward told the ‘Gunny’ that the men smelled bad.
The lieutenant suggested the solution is that they should change underwear.
The Gunny responded, ‘Aye, aye, sir, I’ll see to it immediately!’
The Gunny went straight to the squad tent and announced, ‘The lieutenant thinks you guys smell bad, and wants you to change your underwear.
Smith, you change with Jones, McCarthy, you change with Witkowsky, and Brown, you change with Schultz. Now get to it!’
THE MORAL:
A candidate may promise ‘change’ in Washington ,
but don’t count on things smelling any better.

usmc, mack et al….This gives me hope that after the Obama coronation there will be a group of us, albeit small maybe, that just might survive without having been Obamatized. After the rest have gnashed their teeth and wrung their hands and cried out “Why in God’s name did I vote for him?” we can rest assured in the knowledge that there are others out there who will help rebuild this great nation after Obama brings it to it’s knees.
Posted by: NoSocialistHere | Oct 15, 2008 2:00:59 PM
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There will be no coronation…Millions of Americans are not voting for Obama, millions.
So many are quietly waiting to enter the voting booth and NOT vote for Obama. The thing is Acorn is still (even after the deadline) dropping off bogus voter registrations. He can only win by lying and cheating so maybe…I doubt it.

Look over there at all the bad things they’re doing… while I’m over here having never accomplished much, I did have my hands in many of the same decisions, I have had some poor judgment in people I have associated with, I gave 832k to an organization known for and now being charged with fraud, but look over there and see how miserable you are?? I can make things better for you. I will put more money in your pocket and will take it from the rich scumbags of the earth…
That is Obama’s message. It is very divisive. It is causing even more problems between the classes. Solving the problems we have is a changing a mindset, not moving money between hands.

Sboo, having some good advisers is no sin. Bush also did not know squat, and still doesn’t, but he has BAD advisers.

just hope that tonight in the debate Obama admits what Biden said in the VP debate about his presidency. He said “I will sit in on every meeting Senator Obama holds as President”. Did no one else catch that? If Biden doesn’t sit in on all his meetings, Obama won’t have anyone to hold his hand and tell him what to do, because he doesn’t know what to do on his own! He has no experience in running anything but cronies in ACORN, so he has to learn how from Biden. Gee, wonder why they left that out of their debate talking points???
Posted by: Sboo | Oct 15, 2008 2:06:53
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Yes that is exactly what I thought when I heard it! lol obuma is so not ready for prime time. silly sad man!

While the distinguished, handsome, politician Barack Obama entered the room, he hears, “Oops, Accidentally e-mailed your talking points, Senator Obama.”
The Senator smiles with his drop dead pepsodent smile. “These are for staff ONLY and not for distribution, right?”
“yes sir, Senator.”
Obama, you little scallywag, you. :)
McCain and his folks thought they scored.
McCain got wind of this and his eye brows lifted and out came that creepy smile. “Yes yes, now I have him by his
bomb bomb Iran, next Baghdad comment.”
A few hours pass and McCain says, “Beep Beep, I’m running out of my favorite Roadrunner waylays.”
Mmmmmmmmmwaaaaaaaah….
Obama/Biden08

rickm: I’m not sure where you came up with your deduction… I’ll say it again… following a charismatic leader who ‘can do no wrong’ in the eyes of the people is dangerous, is all… no matter who it is. By the way, history doesn’t exactly characterize Jesus as charasmatic but whatever you want to think…

Over and over this political season, the DNC and Senator Obama have betrayed millions of Democratic voters by refusing to count their votes, by refusing to hold a non-rigged convention, by pretending unity when there is not unity.
A time comes when silence is betrayal. –quoted by Martin Luther King in his address “Beyond Vietnam – A Time To Break Silence”
From the earliest days of the primary season – when not one man running for the Democratic nomination and not one DNC leader acknowledged, let alone condemned, the misogynistic and sexist portrayals of Senator Clinton – to the present moment – when Senator Obama, who claims the polls have made it clear his November victory is secure, cannot stop long enough to acknowledge his own betrayals and deceits and thus to show that he can not only win this election but win it without leaving a badly splintered Party in his path, the Democratic Party leadership has shown that it does not understand or appreciate the betrayal that has been experienced by millions of Democrats.

I’ve noticed in some arguments, some Republicans are told to go back to FOX, and Hannity, and OReilly etc…
Would this be an admittance, that ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN,MSNBC,NYT,LATimes,TIME,and soooooo many other networks, and major news outlets are indeed biased, and working to garner Obama the White House?
Fox is number one for news, for a reason. For their reporting. They may show a penchant for conservatism, but I’ve never heard any comments like…oh when he speaks my legs tingle, or interviews, where the interviewer sits up a foot higher, looking down his nose, as to intimidate, his interviewee.
Fox was created for this very reason. They saw years ago, the bias in the other major news outlets.

Jeanie – No. Rupert saw a way to make some serious money. Rupert is a scary foreigner you do know? No different than Soros really. We say that because we’re tied of them coming on here whining “liberal press, boo hoo it’s liberal press” all the time. They’re rather annoying. They can’t reason either. Most just repeat the same smears that have been proved to be wrong, over and over and over.

Susan, if you’re willing to settle for “not bottom of the class” then look up, there are other options besides Obama. You must remember that Bush is not the one running this election. Try a war-hero in a time of 2 wars? Try an experienced statesman? Try someone who has crossed party lines many times? Try someone who votes Yes or No not Present no matter the fallout? So many opportunities to see outside the “He’s got a college degree and he’s a community organized extrodinaire” box.

If Obama’s people accidentally sent this out, it bodes to motive. Did they send it out, as a bait, for McCain? If so, doesn’t it look a little obvious? I would think most people would see right thru that.
If it indeed was accidental, then again….what does that say about his staff, and their efficiency? A CBS news reporter even wrote a piece last week saying they never knew where they were going half the time. No itineraries, no organization.

“A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous—and its speaker a raving lunatic.”
~Dresden James, Author

These “I am a former Republican but voting for BHO” posters are not fooling anyone.
Any true conservative will vote for McCain over a socialist any day of the week.
Luckily, after Nov 4th Obama’s name will be synonymous with “cheat,”(ACORN) “liar,”(Ayers) and “unelectable.”(socialist)

NoSocialistHere – Try McCain isn’t the “Maverick” he used to be. That ceased the day he sold out to the neo’s, hired the same smear campaign men (Rove?), AND boy was it obvious when he chose Palin to get the far right all excited with glee. The woman speaks in fragments and does NOT need to be so close to POTUS. There has got to be a whole bunch of smart boys voting with their loins on this election. It’s about all she’s got in my view.

Republicans are quite astonishing.
As soon as some media is critical the same biased BS is played again.
As soon as a fellow republican is critical about how the campaign is run, the blunder with Palin, he or she is chastised.
Talking about intolerancy, don’t make me laugh…

H-E-L-L-O! Both candidates have just as many negatives and there is also equity in their positives… I dare any one of you to intentionally research the negatives of your candidate. All past associations and poor judgments. I’m not voting for Barack Obama or against John McCain. I am voting for the combined ticket of Obama/Biden. Again, if John McCain had chosen Mitt Romney or someone equally contributory, I would be voting for him. You all are wasting your time with all this repetition of the rhetoric from the primaries. Just choose your candidate and respect the choices of others. “This is suppose to be a democracy” The gloves always come off at the end of campaigns, but when it’s all done we are all Americans and should maintain a level of decorum and class.

These talking points are hardly secret. Just about any knowledgeable voter has heard them or observed them in the past weeks. Many voters have already voted, absentee ballots, or are voting in some 30 states. Rants and negative postings on message boards, blogs, are too little or too late for one ticket or the other. Sit back and wait, smoke them if you got’em. Won’t be long now and we will all know who the next POTUS is and one thing, for sure, it won’t be Bush.

lauren
People watch FoxNews because they present both sides, with big names from those sides.
This past Sunday, FoxNews Sunday had Axelrod and Rick Davis on to discuss their candidates. Who did Meet the Press have on? Some former Senator and a PR guy. Those were their headliners.
NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN and all the other Obamamania media are watching their ratings tank, while Fox has turned into a powerhouse. And that gives me a tingle up my leg. Not some empty suit.

Susan said: They can’t reason either. Most just repeat the same smears that have been proved to be wrong, over and over and over.
You mean like CNN getting chastized for once again running the smears about Palin belonging to a political group that wants Alaska to secede?
Amazingly, the one doing the chastizing, was the L.A. Times.
I’ll agree, that smears come from both sides…..and if we’re referring to the Ayres issue…that’s not a smear. Stanley Kurtz has investigated, and written extensively on this, and has proven there was more of a connection, as opposed to just being merely, neighbors.
I abhor what Ayres did, and that he is not sorry for it, makes it worse. I could accept his place in society without ever having paid for the hurt, and harm he’s caused in prison, if he were only repentant. He’s not.
The issue really isn’t about what Ayres did. The issue is..repeatedly, Obama, or members of his campaign, changed, or lied outright, about the association. That’s what’s at issue. If he continually changes stories….how can he be trusted?
The same goes for ACORN. Obama denies having had ANYTHING to do with them, yet paid them just over $800,000 for serivces. Get out the vote. That’s all fine, and good, but why lie about that, when it’s on record? Why lie, when there is a documented history with them? They’ve endorsed him, and are out not to get registrations for all parties, but for the democrat party. Still not a problem, but for one thing. They don’t pick and choose tax payer dollars for ACORN. My tax dollars go to fund them as well, and I don’t feel I should be funding a program, that is biased. Inspite of it’s claim of being non partisan.
Not to mention…my money, your money, all of our money has helped fund this voter registration fraud. Obama paid them a massive amount of money to help do this. That bothers me. It bothers me a lot.

“These “I am a former Republican but voting for BHO” posters are not fooling anyone.
”
RFLOL..
Even Christopher Buckley, a conservative Republican, is endorsing Obama.
McCain = No Style, No Vision!
Palin = To Stupid for Words!

msa123 says: “The other one looks too scary for me. I’ve worked too hard to have more taken from me than is already being taken. Thanks for your civil discussion…”
Oh, she isn’t voting for “that one”.

Ya gotta wonder if we’ll have a civil war??

“Jeanie? Selective hearing? I just watched a tape yesterday of McCain addressing ACORN in 2006 and telling those workers how special they are.”
Did he give them over 800k, perform training and provide legal services for them? Nah..Nah…Nah…

And now we know!!!
This is from the Wall Street Journal.
In the summer of 2005, a bill emerged from the Senate Banking Committee that considerably tightened regulations on Fannie and Freddie, including controls over their capital and their ability to hold portfolios of mortgages or mortgage-backed securities. All the Republicans voted for the bill in committee; all the Democrats voted against it. To get the bill to a vote in the Senate, a few Democratic votes were necessary to limit debate. This was a time for the leadership Sen. Obama says he can offer, but neither he nor any other Democrat stepped forward.

“I had to reply to Patty. You better check your sources again. Obama did turn in his birth certificate starting he was born in Hawaii.
So get your facts straight before telling such lies. Sounds like the McSame campaign!”
Obamacheck is a proven bias source.

rickm: so what’s your point. i don’t like that one. so?

And Planewizard – ever heard of the keating 5, ever hear how McSame sung like a bird in vietnam, ever hear of the skull and bones, heard that his campaign staffer was lobbying for Saddam, ever hear that McSame (GOP)gave money to acorn, ever heard McSame cheated on his first wife with Cindy after his first wife was in an accident and had to use crutches/wheelchair, ever heard that Cindy paid off his gambling debts, I could go on and on. Do some research of your own and quit listening to the McSame bullcrap!

Discredited Republican voter-suppression guru Ken Blackwell is attacking Barack Obama with naked lies about his supposed connection to ACORN.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.

OK everybody – and I mean EVERYBODY whoever you are for or against – PBS FRONTLINE has an informative 2 hour piece on – available online – the ONLY non-biased (either way) news coverage = “FRONTLINE The Choice.” What I got out of it: It shows both candidates as they are – not too much negativity either way – but it clearly shows Obama as a “speechmaker” and that he has been using the same years old speeches throughout ALL of his campaigning back to his first election that he “won” un-apposed. I did not know his political start came in the form of actually being “given” a senate seat – that’s what they reported. I’m really nervous about that because he lost the next time around – when he had to appose someone. Chicago blacks (their term, not mine) did not like nor trust him because he admittedly came to Chicago to “gain some black history.” He was an outsider that went to Chicago, used the “political machine” to get into politics – which makes me wonder what he owes to who? He married Michelle who had “black” connections in Chicago that he did not – poor Michelle. I am not saying he does not love her, but having PBS point that out must be uncomfortable. With all reported, even the negative (not many) about McCain, it finally gave me a truthful picture of who these candidates are, who they’ve been, and how honest they are. I have concluded McCain, even with the Keating 5 issue has come out cleaner and with answers reflecting his humanity – and you HAVE to see his relationship with Bush – McCain refers to Bush comparing him to the Tin Man, the Lion, and the Scarecrow = no brain, no courage, and no heart – that was great. PBS FRONTLINE hats off for reporting well.

I think a mistake is mistake. There is no need to misconstrue what is a mistake.

JD
“The biggest Republican endorsement BHO has picked up is Hagel’s wife.”
Nope, conservative writer and journalist Christopher Buckly (son of Wiliam F) is also endorsing Obama.
What’s remarkable is that some big names refuses to endorse McCain (Snowcroft, Powell).
McCain is running a populist, dumb sixpack campaign. It’s dimwitted anti-intelligent tone is really offensive and many people don’t like that.

Jennifer – say it all you want – but check the Chicago Times – Obama WAS INDEED A PART OF ACORN – ACTUALLY THEIR LEGAL REPRESENTATION…
Discredited Republican voter-suppression guru Ken Blackwell is attacking Barack Obama with naked lies about his supposed connection to ACORN.
BULL~~~these are not “Facts”
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.

Mack. Here is a hint. THAT was an OPINION PIECE. By the following guy. Now – this is where you logically think “what might lead him to try to pin this on democrats?”: PETER J. WALLISON Peter J. Wallison is a Resident Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI) and co-director of AEI’s program on Financial Market Deregulation. He is an expert on financial services and banking law. Before joining AEI, Mr. Wallison practiced banking, corporate, and financial law at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher in Washington , D.C. , and New York. Mr. Wallison has held a number of government positions. From June 1981 to January 1985, he was General Counsel of the U.S. Treasury Department, where he had a significant role in the development of the Reagan Administration’s proposals for deregulation in the financial services industry, served as General Counsel to the Depository Institutions Deregulation Committee, and participated in the Treasury Department’s efforts to deal with the LDC debt issue. During 1986 and 1987, Mr. Wallison was Counselor to the President of the United States. Between 1972 and 1976, he served first as Special Assistant to New York ‘s Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller and, subsequently, as counsel to Mr. Rockefeller when he was Vice President of the United States.

Well Mack, I’m sorry you feel that way.
I guess anything that is proven factual, that could possibly cast doubt, or render a question about Obama’s ablities, and claims, is racist.

““My husband and I know that there is no law that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband’s adoption by his step father.” (Emphasis added). “

The cap on the American dream is $250,000 under BHO.
BHO’s “bottom up” economic plan fails to take into account that people at the bottom are usually there for one reason: POOR CHOICES.

factcheck is owned by Annenberg – heard of that before?

“Nope, conservative writer and journalist Christopher Buckly (son of Wiliam F) is also endorsing Obama.”
And so are, Ayers, Wright, Hamas, Farrakhan, the new black panthers, Nation of Islam, Khalid al-Monsour, Rezko, Bernadine Dohrn, Ludaris, Madonna, Matt Damon, etc.

JD said: The cap on the American dream is $250,000 under BHO.
Imagine living in a state such as New York, California, Michigan, New Jersey, among others, where taxes are already high…food is high, home prices are outrageous. $250,000 a year is like $50,000 a year in other states. Which for some, may seem like a lot, but it’s really not. Most families have to budget now, and this is going to be taken from them, more in the way of taxes, to fund those who don’t pay taxes.
I don’t know about anyone else, but where I was brought up, that’s called stealing.

i wonder how people will fill when their dreams of this perfect country doesn’t come true under Obama? Mccain has never said he would make things perfect. Obama has more or less said this. Peace, money, education, It will not change in those ways unless you are on welfare.What he is doing will put the middle class in the poor house depending on the government to take care of them.He doesn;t want to be a leader he wants to tell us how to live and what we can do.. He is already doing that and you people eat it up

ptthomas… Please step away from MSNBC. You have entered the twilight zone. Nice to be one-sided but I’d suggest doing some research into your “facts” such as they are. See, that’s why McCain supporters are an angry lot. We’ve stood by for months while Obama trots out all sorts of false rubbish which is never checked for truthfulness and which has been absorbed by the masses (or minions as I like to refer to them). Now being under the gun like that has caused some of us to check our facts and the mud that’s been slung at us. Tough job but unfortunately not enough are doing it. Don’t believe everything you hear and read. Do your own fact checking. Lots of legal papers online to go through. Do it and I promise you’ll be surprised. Not pleasantly though I’m afraid. Sorry. Just know you were warned BEFORE you vote.

“That’s OK Stephanopoulos just called the 3rd debate winner, Obama. Imagine that.”
That was based on a poll.

“They both have endorsements from undesirables. They’ve both had to repudiate comments and run from endorsements… I’m still waiting for someone to mention a decision or sin that is so disparaging that it can not be said about anyone else and can not be compared. They have both made decisions for wealth, gain and/or politics.”
You’re waiting for the horse to leave before you close the barn door. I can understand that.

Jeanie
To BHO and his supporters that is called “fairness.”
Stalin also called his redistribution of wealth “fairness.”

I wish we could have some more reasoned discussion here.
There are reasons to vote for – or against – either candidate. Lies, smears, and paranoia aren’t good ones, though. That’s why people haven’t been going for the stuff McCain’s been throwing lately.
It’s kinda funny that the Obama campaign let slip some talking points. None are surprising, and none far from the truth, but funny nonetheless.
McCain’s campaign has gotten increasingly negative, despite his old promise to the contrary. He’s doing all he can to scare us into voting for a continuation of 90% of Bush’s policies, and a 16% chance of a President Palin in the next 4 years (*shudder*).
Judge the candidates for their policies and their plans – not the lies and smears they fling at one another. And lately, it really looks like one side’s been doing most of the poo-flinging, and none of it sticks.

Still waiting Mack… Sarcasm and witty banter doesn’t address the need for an intelligent retort. Let’s remain civil and respect each other. I’m quite intelligent and I have done my research, hence my neutral stance. I am loyal to God first, no man, no gossip, no party. I love my country and work daily to make the best choices for not just today, but tomorrow. Are you saying that you believe that Sarah Palin will be a better prepared VP than Joe Biden with a 72 year old President. I need an answer for my children.

Adam
Washington Post stats on negative attacks in swing states:
Obama: 1348
McCain: 8
So who is doing the poo flinging? Only McCain according to NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN etc..

Wouldn’t it be great if McCain whipped out his Birth Certificate at tonight’s debate and challenged Obama to produce his

Obama at rallies tells his people to argue with the rep if they don’t agree with if and get in their faces… what a peaceful man he is.. i was at a coupl rallies he said that at but the media will not tell you he said that.. get a grip i was for Obama tell i heard him say these things. He is trying to cause trouble himself he is not a peace loving person he is power hungry. I KNOW WHATS BEST FOR YOU, I UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE, I AM YOUR CHOICE FOR A BETTER AMERICA,I WILL BRING WORLD PEACE, I WILL BRING THE TROOPS HOME AT ONCE.he is going to mess up a country already messed up if we leave like that but he doesn’t care he will have the power to do so.we shouldn’t be there but we are and we have to help them through this now not leave them to do taken over again in 6 months.I thought America had a heart if we do this like Obama wants to we have no heart.Obama wants the rich to pay for us. If they do that for to long what rich will there be left to take care of us we will all be poor.Then what? If you want this country to stay America instead of Obama land witch it is starting to look like already then you better think hard when you vote

Mack
“And so are, Ayers, Wright, Hamas, Farrakhan, the new black panthers, Nation of Islam, Khalid al-Monsour, Rezko, Bernadine Dohrn, Ludaris, Madonna, Matt Damon, etc.”
Trying to link fundamentalist islam with Obama. Cheap shot and pathetic.
But please continue… Most independent voters turn their back at McCain because of these dumb attacks.

sorry republicans. . . . time to go!!

i think this country would be better of if we did have another attack on us.. seem like people think to much of them selfs again and they think Obama will save them. Obama can not do any better at saving us then Bush did.Can’t stop everything.but i think the people have forgotten and thats a shame. NY has even forgotten.but they do remember that for some reason the rest of us owe them something because of it.This country is divided and it sad we should be one.

Wow — It’s getting worse. Barack Obama has done a great deal for race relations in this country. Have you seen the rainbow of people who are from all walks of life — all classes, education levels, income brackets, religions. There’s no speckle of white, yellow and brown – it’s a collage. A beautiful portrait. I believe that John McCain has some solid kind hearted supporters, but then there’s the bigot who shows up at rallies and makes racist blog comments hoping to rally the troops. There was a time this would have worked and people in masses would have began racist chants — that time has past. Now is the time for all races to join together – we need each other to make it through this time. Wake up people – for your own good — please wake up.

change is flip flop
logg live code words
*tawking tongues# talking points,talkingheads(theme backdrop for “W:”
like I need another WOLF ticket
Just how long ago did cnn’s War on the middle class air?
how curious is bama’s parlay”"?
THIS ARTICLE IS TO DISARM,,,,,but John is old to be fooled by it….

Susan….So you’re basically saying that Obama will not spend any of our tax dollars on the poor or oppressed in any other country? Not Darfur? Not Georgia? Not to any starving African nation? Not to any war-torn country under a dictatorship? You’re right. I want my tax dollars spent here. 800,000 to Acorn sounds just about right.

John McCain is not so bad! He’s grumpy and angry like an old grandpa! But his running mate is incompetent. Her lack of knowledge is appalling and very dangerous in a world of mental giants and nano second decisons. America needs the best and the brightest, not the worse and the dimmest! It’s okay for Alaska, perhaps, but for the rest of us, being dumb could be our undoing. The last eight years haven’t been America’s best!

LOL
Jake … you got played! That was a ‘planned’ accident.

John…Love it. I smell a bumper sticker!
Barrett…Please. You can’t honestly be arguing that a Presidential candidate with one year experience voting “present” and being a community organizer as being better than someone with John McCain’s experience? Oh wait, you were comparing Obama with his VP pick Sarah Palin, a mom, past mayor, curren GOV of the largest state. No wait. You couldn’t have been doing that. I must have misread your post. You couldn’t be that uninformed could you?

These “talking points” aren’t anything that the majority of Americans don’t already know. It’s not a matter of “party politics” it is a matter of who is best for our country and that certainally is not John McLame.

“Are you saying that you believe that Sarah Palin will be a better prepared VP than Joe Biden with a 72 year old President. I need an answer for my children.”
Palin has more executive experience than Obama, McCain and Biden combined. Does she know her way around Washington? Obviously not. Is that a good or bad thing? Not sure. Biden has been around the block and knows how to play the game, although he does act erratically at times. If it was Clinton/Biden, that would be a no-brainer for me.

Let’s keep it respectful as well.
The name calling only demeans the argument. It doesn’t enhance it, or add any validity, or intelligence to it.

It is sad that after seeing the atrocities brought unto our country by the Bush administration (do I really need to list what they are?), McCain supporters are still willing to put the SAME PEOPLE IN OFFICE. Rove and his associates (the same people who ran Bush’s campaign and the whie house) still run McCain’s campaign. Hmm… I wonder who McCain will choose to put into the whitehouse as his advisors.(Maybe he wont have to choose, he’ll just keep the same idiots already there)
About Ayers, he is some dude who lived in the same community, and hence attended some of the same boards and committees, big friggin deal. What about Keeting? Because of the “Keeting 5″ the savings and loan crisis of the 90′s occurred. Is the current economic crisis THAT much different than that of the 90′s other than the sheer scale of the current crisis in comparisson? Do we really need to put the man resposible for allowing these kind of crises in office? Not to mention that he is old and has had cancer, with a running mate who barely knows what a Vice President (much less president) even does?????
If you want to stay on the path of depression and socialism (yes we have much fewer rights than 8yrs ago, and now our government owns large chunks of wall street) than please vote for McCain. Otherwise if you like freedom, health and democracy, vote for the REAL voice of the people, Obama.
-Obama Biden ’08

Ohhhhhhhhhhh Nosocialist. FACT. There is no such thing as a “present” vote in the US Senate. Those took place in the IL Senate. They are common in IL. Where they are known as a “nay” vote to “protest partisan trickery with the legislation.” And out of the many hundreds he voted while in the IL Senate? Not many even were these. Just a little factcheck for ya! You might be taken more seriously if you know what it is you try to speak of.

It’s been fun bantering with you all this afternoon. It does my heart good to know that we all want what’s good for this country. I want my family to be prosperous, my kids to have big college funds, my home to be mine when I pay it off and my news to not be from big brother. Unfortunately for me, Obama is going to steal this election and I won’t have my dream for us all. Please know I forgive you for voting for Obama but I can’t say the same for future generations who are going to have to pay for our current stupidity and selfishness. Sorry John, you are still a hero in my eyes. It would have been great!

I would like to add to all these really upset conservatives that seem so worried the poor working mans been fitting GBush and his administrations blank check long enough.Its time for the rich to start taking on some of the responsibiltiy.I work for a election board and id like to add that if anyone thinks back really hard theyll probly remember all the voter fraud at every election this is not uncommmon.Its also something again that the conservatives do to take our eyes off the important issues in this countryand im sure this wont be the end of what ever they can find to drag out..Id just like to say to american voters keep your eye on the debate tonight and vote who you think will be the best commander and chief to lead our country in the right direction..also think of your children and grandcyhildren and what theyll be left with if the mess dont get cleaned up very soon!!!!!

Well if Obama is president, please be aware that like Clinton, he will first have to dig us out of an even deeper whole that Bill had to. George W Bush is leaving our country in quite a state and its not all his fault. Its the fault of many Americans who made bad and selfish financial decisions, its the fault of an unregulated Wall Street. There’s no reason for us to still be so oil dependent, but we are. Like McCain said, we should never have to go to war for oil again. Hopefully a McCain or Obama administration can start us in the right direction, but one term won’t fix it for either of them. Don’t blame this situation on McCain or Obama. We have to speak up. We have to stay in the faces of our representatives, go to the local town halls, send letters and make calls. Stop doing nothing and living off what’s left of America, pointing fingers of blame. It starts with each one of us, not the white house — it starts with you, it starts with me.

msa123…. I agree that intelligence does not guarentee character, morals or good judgment. Look at Cheney and McCain. I mean, Cheney shoots people… ok, bad joke. But more seriously, look at Palin and tell me someone who has embraced the Alaskan Independence Party with her husband has some deep love of the United States. The Alaskan Indpendance Party’s only aim is to get Alaska to leave the United States and start their own country. Palin’s husband joined this party and Palin herself endorsed it. She remains a very bizarre choice for Vice President, especially with McCain’s age and poor health bringing her very close to being President. But to the point of intelligence, Palin clearly cared little and understands less about today’s world and today’s America than millions of Americans, millions of better choices. Even her ability to learn and work in a truly competitive world is in doubt. It took her five tries to get through college. That’s just odd. How can she possibly have any idea how or where to lead the world, to lead America, when she doesn’t even understand what’s going on? She bumbles in a very embarrassing way during simple interviews. She showed a childish insistance AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF HER DEBATE that she wouldn’t answer any questions she didn’t like…. this should scare you. If McCain dies and she becomes our President, there are no questions she can refuse to answer or run away from. You’re President, the buck stops there. We found with Bush that having the buck stop with someone not so bright can come with big and nasty price tag. Intelligence does guarentee a candidate comes with one of the basic tools to do the job. No intelligence and there is no chance they can do it well. We still need to decide if the job they want to do is the job we want done. That is what elections are for. But elections should not be about having to get rid of someone who has no business being on the ballot. Sarah Palin can wink, try to act cute, and make the radicals on the extreme right so happy they call for the death of Democrats, but she hasn’t the intelligence or even the simple knowledge and education to make Presidential decisions. She plain lacks the basic tools.

“For those concerned about Mickey Mouse voting in this, or any, election… do you really have so little regard for the various voter registration departments as to think that they would allow that? Good grief, they have the obligation to check out every new application for voracity and accuracy.”
They are bogging down the system with their bogus registration forms.

Jeanie – I’m glad you’re up on that – to mention a comment I received from a 70 year old ex-Marine yesterday – his concern about the “rehabilitation” of Ayers – Ayers found out that bombing wasn’t as beneficial as getting to the young college student minds through “Liberal” Education. A widespread practice starting in the 1960′s – I went to a liberal school (grade school through junior high). Indoctrined, no, but I certainly understood the environment. I was raised in a Democratic family – I questioned many things – I was considered a radical because I simply questioned – sound familiar?

Jack47 – just a suggestion – PBS FRONTLINE available online – if you’re up to it.

Believe it or not… No news medium is totally unbiased. Individuals make every effort to remain unbiased, but a journalist is an artist and artists work with a filtered view. None of us can be gullible enough to believe ALL that we read or see. Formulate a constructive view based on facts actually go to the gov websites and view the actual voting records. When it all boils down neither candidate is perfect — vote your gut (with as little spin and or predjudice as possible) and then do your part. That’s all we can do.

‘accident’ tee hee hee……
YOU’RE talking about it FOR THEM!!!

I am not concerned that Micky Mouse or Jive Turkey will vote on election day. But it has been the strategy of the liberals and the Acorn Organization to sign up hundred of thousands for the purpose of overwhelming the local election boards and clerks. It should be Acorn’s job to ensure that the registration forms are accurate and only 1 per voter, not one person signing up 72 times.

Obama has been “pledged” by the best. He has more than earned the privilege to be nominated. He has gone through hot coals and storms with the Clintons, and has weathered the storms of accusations on a weekly basis, since he has been in the national eye.
McCain has gotten a free pass, for the most part. Since Obama’s campaign does not focus on attacking McCain, we do not read and hear about a lot of the associations, and questionable acts of McCain.
McCain seems to be miffed, angry, and even rattled at times. Obama stays the course, and is showing himself to be fairly level headed. I do not trust politicians very much, but Obama seems to be the most reliable and trustable of the two. I do not want to go through another 4 years of anything that comes NEAR to resembling Bush’s policies.
As far as education is concerned. Between McCain and Palin, they have a degree in journalism from the university of Idaho (that took attending 5 different colleges to get), and a bottom 1% from the Naval Academy… is this supposed to be impressive?
Are those credentials offered, supposed to gain the respect of other countries and the U.S. citizens, such that we would place into their hands, the responsibility of governing over the most powerful country in the world?
Obama and Biden have between them, two juris doctorates in law, one of which is magna *** laude from Harvard, two political science degrees, one of which has a specialization in international relations, and a degree in history. Besides Harvard, they offer Columbia University, Syracuse University, and the University of Delaware.
One side wants to keep padding the pockets of greedy oil magnets. The other wants to help most of the citizens of america get back on their feet, and offer a plan that gives EVERYONE a realistic chance on having health care.
As for me, I know more than enough people, who are sick, and/or who have died because of the inability to provide money in exchange for their lives. That’s pathetic.
To me, there IS no debate. It’s just a formality.

“The LA Times, of all publications, chastized CNN for running on with this story, when there are no facts, to conclude that this is true. At least for Mrs. Palins part.”
CNN is a joke. They try to hide their bias, which makes it all the more ridiculous. They have a token Repub on there that agrees with Roland Martin on most issues.

Glad to hear that “Concerned”. Maybe I can hit a couple more before I sign off… I won’t count on it though (smile). Tough audience.

Christopher Buckley: it’s amazing, he endorses Obama and then reportedly receives tons of hate emails. Again, my question for conservatives: why do you try and silence voices of dissent. You tell liberal celebs to “shut up and sing”, but yet have no problems when a conservative celeb like Arnie or Reagan run for office. You have many conservative commentators at Foxnews and MSNBC and CNN and on talk radio (like your $400 million man Rush Limbaugh) filling the airwaves, but yet you want any liberal commentator to be quiet and not offer their views. It’s incredible–why do you FEAR any dissenting POVs?

JEANIE: Like all true REPUBLICANS you speak in twisted half truths to confuse and mislead everyone. Here for you information is the REAL TRUTH about bill John McCain tried to blow the whistle on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over two years ago.
In 2005-06, the majority in Congress was REPUBLICAN. The banking and Housing Committee was comprised of 11 Republicans and 9 Democrats. The bill NEVER made it out of committee and was ruled “dead”, therefore never being brought to a full Senate vote.
McCain’s Chief of Staff has been getting paid between $15,000-$30,000 a month from Freddie and Fannie to lobby against regulation.
Obama penned a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury stating his grave concerns about the housing market and its potential impact on Main Street in March 2007.
These are the TRUE FACTS and anyone with half a brain can easily search the Congress Record to verify them. Do a litle RESEARCH so you will not look so BRAIN DEAD the next time!

This story is fake as it gets. Look at all the right wing stuff they use. All the things that they would want to hear admitted. They use phrases that do not sound American at all for her “quotes”.
In many countries in Latin America, some publications just make up interviews with people. This sounds just like that too me.

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Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?
We wont.

moderate AMEN TO THAT

Jeanie – Not supporting Cool’s comments – But have you any idea what so ever how many death threats that Barack Obama received in order to receive the earliest Secret Service detail in American History!!!!! Are you kidding me??? Do you have any idea how many campaign offices have been vandalized? Let’s not start this line of communication. McCain doesn’t even need friggin detail! Again this race is about the good of America. And please know the Black Conservative hosts ratings are soaring and will soar all the more after the election. No one is thinking about them.

Reminder: These are for staff only and not for distribution,” warns the e-mail.”–JT
Just thinking, maybe he/she truly thought sending the emails out to all media WAS sending it out to “staff only”…lol…

Boycott Alaska! Govenor Palin has single-handedly drug the great state of Alaska through the mud and has built back up the race wall that took 100 years to tear down. Who gave her this charge? Let’s all join together and boycott Alaska, their seafood industry and tourism industry and when they feel the economic effects the citizens can throw her to the wolves. Simple minds have no place in the Govenor’s chair. The people of Alaksa need to impeach Palin and take back their pride!

i thank whats wrong in America is people want to believe in something so bad that when Obama came around he was young and good looking and a great talker that he took people off their feet. He became a idol to most people.Not really knowing him made him interesting and fresh.They started believing in him because they thought or think there was nothing else to do.Obama is their messiah in lots of ways and you can not no matter what you do or say brake that thought and love they have for him now. He has done what he set out to do control and its going to be a tough ride ahead of us.

Smear Police – “get him fired” was a media phrase. ~~~I was hit (car) by an off-duty deputy sheriff (truck). He admitted to “goosing it” to get through an uncontrolled intersection. He failed to yield right and hit me going (also admitted) 35 mph. He WAS NOT TICKETED FOR BREAKING THE LAW. In fact, when I called 911 the responding officer was his friend, told us so, and refused to do anything further. We had the same insurance company. The insurance company ruled 100% in my favor. My point is – you can’t call the cops on a cop – duh. That’s why they had to do what they did the way they did it – have you ever had to call a cop on a cop? If not, then you don’t know what their internal process is.

This is hilarious…on almost every single bulletin board I read these days, there’s an equal amount of people crying “your biased for McCain!” and “your biased for Obama!”…sheesh, stop being so sensitive people, sometime reporters actually do just report…and this piece was totally innocuous!!!! But, if they news they report happens to be favorable to one candidate or the other, can you stop shooting the frickin messenger??

Smear Police Trooper Wooten is one person – with COP friends – AND A GUN…. which I might add the deputy sheriff that hit me also wore his gun… but, as usual, I stood up for what I believed in – what’s right.

DAVE – watch a little closer – after the last debate, ABC video feed ONLY FOLLOWED OBAMA AROUND INTERACTING WITH THE CROWD…they didn’t show McCain interacting following the debate AT ALL = BIASED.

hummingbird – There was no bias. I’m certain I heard at least two stations mention that McCain left right away and did not stick around after the last debate to shake hands and talk with the crowd.

This is going to be a historic election for the country. This is the first time in my life(60+years) were I feel the people are not going to elect the person regardless of party but the election is being decided by the communication community(every type) which has pushed their star all year long. Makes me sick.When you are fed the same bull hour after hour I think they call it brainwashing or just pure ignorance.

McCain is adopting BILL CLINTON’S ECONOMIC PLAN. THAT IS TRIED AND TRUE
Posted by: NOBAMA2 | Oct 15, 2008 3:36:30 PM
Do you realize that Obama’s tax plan is to return the tax rates to what they were during the Clinton administration. So McCain’s plan is to steal Obama’s plan but tweak it just a little to help the rich. Well at least what I consider rich I don’t know what McCain considers rich since he thinks people that make 5 million a year are in the middle class.

“…watch a little closer-after the last debate, ABC video feed ONLY FOLLOWED OBAMA AROUND INTERACTING WITH THE CROWD…they didn’t show McCain interacting following the debate AT ALL.”
They couldn’t keep him in the lens!! He was wandering all over the place.

“Obama the great propaganda manipulator’s machine has just sandbagged us all; this is just free advertising.”
B-I-N-G-O

now McCain has an advantage and punch back

To re-summarize my posts, albeit heavily edited for any possible infractions against unstated policies:
1.) Barak Obama’s “I stand with the Muslims” quote was taken out of context and reworded. He was stating a very American value, i.e., he will stand up for those who are being unfairly persecuted. He was speaking at a time when Sikhs were being assaulted for being mistaken for Arabs.
2.) You’re all being fooled by a two-faced monster preaching a false dichotomy, to maintain an illusion of party distinctions and keep you all at each others throats so you don’t notice.
3.) Vote for the Founding Father’s original intent, vote for the Rule of Law as expressed in the Constitution. Write-in Dr. Ron Paul.
3.) You needn’t vote for “the lesser of two evils” nor “throw away your vote” by casting your ballot for a third party. Please Google “Votepact” or “vote swapping”, either of which may help you vote your conscience.

The way I plan to vote is; Better the devil I know (McCain) than the devil I don’t (Obama).

mara – you are a true queen of MSM propaganda….

world – maybe in your “world”…

hummingbird, you didn’t answer a single question, which means you either don’t know the answers, or the answers don’t match your agenda.
.john mccain supported acorn much more recently than barack obama (on video – in 2006 – proudly, with a big smile). the attacks began when his numbers plummetted. the republican party is engaged in a massive voter supression drive – particularly in michigan – and again, i want to hear “main street sarah”, the good ole gal, tell middle class michigan voters who have lost their homes that she does not believe they should vote.
mccain is not allowing access to his medical records because he has something to hide. sarah palin may be a wonderful mother, but she is a dreadful candidate – and there are plenty of conservatives who agree.
the number of voters, on average, who are convicted of voter fraud each year? 600,000? no. 60,000? no. 6,000? No. 6? Bingo. Six voters were convicted of voter fraud last election. Sometimes the number goes as far as 10. So what is all this nonsense about? It’s about another false and misleading attack, propagated by ultra-conservative bloggers, who seem to have lots of time and no employment.

Mara. Obama supported ACORN most recently, with payment of just over $800,000 for services, of getting out there, and getting votes.
I agree, on the association, it doesn’t look good. McCain was at a rally which was co-sponsored by ACORN, and Service Employees International Union, People for the American Way, UNITE HERE! Several Republicans, and Democrats were there, as it was a multi partisan event.
ACORN is allegedly a bipartisan organization. But when it takes money from a Presidential candidate, to score votes, knowing full well that in the past, and present, voter fraud comes up, again, and again…something isn’t right. I don’t care which side is complicit with something like this, it’s wrong!
New allegations came today. Because of ACORNS systematically committing this, over, and over each election, it’s being looked at now, as organized crime. It’s habitual.
ACORN is not bipartisan, yet takes money from ALL tax payers. I find it offensive, for my money to go to support this kind of illicit behavior, and I’m not represented. I also don’t like being tied to a group that would pull such a stunt, to be complicit, with others, in the down fall of the economy.
As for the medical records….I don’t think it’s any of our business, and I don’t think any candidate should be required to do so. Just my opinion on that.
Obama will most likely win this one…but I forever will wonder…did he win on his merit, or was there complicity in these fraudulent registrations? Not all get thru, but some will. 3 ACORN workers were found living in a house in Ohio, registered to vote, but not legal residents of Ohio. So will he win on merit, and fairly?
I’d prefer to know that every vote counts, but only if it’s legal.

No. And Shauna – A dear friend (who happens to be black) brought up his concern over this issue – he told me that he had to flip channels to actually see where McCain went. He told me he was appalled that he had to do so – McCain was interacting as well as Obama – you may think he left bacause we couldn’t SEE him anymore. BTW – I prefer cherry kool-aid over grape ;)——————————How nice you have black friends…? What does that have to do with it? If you don’t think that McCain’s movement around the stage was a detriment then you must mix cherry AND grape together. It was observed by many people and written about quite a bit.

Meme32 – you do not understand the dynamics of television production.

Meme32 said: Odd, It seems that McCain was as physically awkward tonight during the third debate as the second one…must be the liberal bias of Senator McCain’s gait.
Well if you spent 5 years, being beaten, tortured, and have every bone in your body broken, and left unattended, til your release….you probably wouldn’t be physically astute. McCain cannot raise his arms above his shoulders, or sit and type, at a computer. These are painful for him. Just something to keep in mind. :)

I think obama should win it seems like people are only trying to vote because of color and thats not right! forget mccain
and strem OBAMA”08″

WOW! I’m completely dumbfounded at how blind everyone is to Obama’s associations.
When video came out of his pastor who spewed forth vile hatred in a church he attended for twenty years, Obama said he did not know his pastor was a racist. If this one thing had happened with any other candidate, he would have been out of the race.
When evidence was put forth that he helped a self professed, unrepentant terrorist raise funds for the indoctrination of college students, Obama said he did not know the man that well. If this one thing had happened with any other candidate, he would have been out of the race.
When we heard about his 12 year friendship with a Palestinian professor at Columbia University who supports terrorist attacks against Israel, Obama said he did not know the professor that well. If this one thing had happened with any other candidate, he would have been out of the race.
When asked to release records of his close association with the voter fraud group, ACORN, Obama said he was not involved enough to know them well. If this one thing had happened with any other candidate, he would have been out of the race.
When asked by a plumber about taxes being raised, Obama accidentally used a coded Socialist phrase, “Spread the wealth around.” If this Freudian slip had been committed by any other candidate, he would have been out of the race.
When asked if he would meet with anti-American dictators without pre-conditions, this time, Obama stepped out of character, proudly admitting that he would do exactly that. If this one thing had happened with any other candidate, he would have been out of the race.
When Russia attacked Georgia, Obama asked both sides to show restraint. If this one thing had happened with any other candidate, he would have been out of the race.
God Help Us!