Obama: I Assumed Ayers Had Been Rehabilitated

Didn’t the Stock Market drop nearly 700 points?
Why are we talking about Ayers?

Obama’s excuse now is that he thought Ayers had been rehabilitated. But why, then, did he describe Obama as “just a guy I knew in the neighborhood?” That’s what he said when confronted on the issue by Stephanapulous. That was a flat out lie. He worked closely with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge. And Obama never spoke about the Annenberg Challenge when he began running for President, though he listed it as executive experience when he was running against Bobby Rush. And that was his main executive experience. He’s acted like the job did not exist.

Again, another lie by Obama. He knew then and know now just what Bill Ayers did and what he stands for. Once a terrorist, always a terrorist. Once a murderer, always a murderer. Once a liar, always a liar…Obama can not help being a liar. It is in his jens from both his father and mother. Both were misfits.

Obama has had several different versions of his relationship with Ayres. He’s never admitted anything without being forced to, because his previous statements were found untrue.
Obama’s work on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge is worth a look. It isn’t a distraction- this man wants to be President and says he will go through the budget and cut programs we don’t need.
Well, let’s have a look at how he spent money as an executive for the CAC board.
He gave plenty to ACORN, and plenty to Mike Klonsky, one of Ayre’s college radical buddies.
Obama has not been forthcoming for good reason. Call him on it. Investigate it.
Then let the voters decide.

Rehabilitated? Who is this liar trying to kid? Would you, in any way, shape or form, associate with someone who bombed the Pentagon or belonged to a group who killed a Police Officer? I wouldn’t and I wont vote for someone who has and is lying about it. I’m a Hillary supporter voting for McCain!

Well if the McCain supporters want to get in the gutter, I’m sure they’ll be delighted to tell us all about Keating, Liddy, Brickner, the treasonous Alaska Independence Party and all the other unsavory characters in McCain’s and Palin’s past. And there are a LOT more of them on that side of the ledger.
I suspect the voters are going to laugh this off, though. McCain/Palin will rile up some of the most ignorant, bigoted members of their far-Right base (the ones yelling “Kill him”, “Terrorist” and “Sit down, boy”, but the majority of Americans are decent people who don’t approve of this kind of hate speech.

Ayers bothers me a bit, well more than a bit, Ayers was and is a kid of privelege but what really bugs me is that Obama supposedly had a rough time of it , mother sick, on food stamps etc. Yet he finds the money to attend some pretty expensive schools, took a trip with a drug taking Pakistani friend to Pakistan. No one seems to know him from Columbia, did he bag groceries for spending money, did he tutor others and why or how did he gain entry to Harvard, who sponsored him and why. We have heard it was via a Saudi Billionaire or someone with ties to the Saudi. Looks like he would show his grades and fess up as to how he got to where he is at today. He seems to be a remarkable persom with a remarkable story yet the holes need to be filled in.

david,
Obama went to these “privelege” schools through schlorship. He’s a smart man. Took loans for Columbia and Harvard. He took a trip to Pakistan during his college years w/ a friend.

We’re talking about Ayers, and not the stock market, because NEITHER candidate has offered one word about what to do about. Probably because there ISN’T anything that can be done.

You know, EVERY time something like this, Ayers, or Rezko, or some other creepy aspect of Obama’s past that he doesn’t want to talk about, he ALWAYS says “oh, they are just trying to distract from the economy”. The truth is, Mr. obama, that your corruption, dangerous history, and pathological LYING is distracting from the economy.
So, stop lying! First he said Ayers was just a guy who lived in his neighborhood, and now, when pushed, finally admits to having an association with him. “served on a board together” is minimizing this to the ultimate extent…..Obama was hand picked to CHAIR this challenge by Ayers, who had a long relationship with bbefore.
And then, first his campaign says that Obama did not know about Ayers, AND NOW, Obama is saying he thought he was rehabilitated, what a bunch of crock! this is a harvard grad, and Obama did not know about Ayers? And yet, he still was in contact with him until 2005, long after Ayers was well known in the news?
What happenned in 2005, to make Obama stop making contact? Why, he started running for President. So he stops with the guilty assocations. Just like he stopped associating with Wright , sayinhg that he condemned him, TWENTY YEARS after the started the association!
Anything, anyone, will be sacrificed for this selfish, opportunistic, lying Obama.
When will ABC news investigate this, instead of listening and fawning over Obama’s lies?

Jane – The NYT pieces also concluded that the two men “do not appear to be close.” So McCain needs to quit grasping at straws. Move on. There’s nothing there.
Besides, you want to get into questionable relationships, how about Todd Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party? They hate America so much they want to leave it…and Governor Palin sent an address to their conference. She also DID NOT leave when a preacher gave an anti-semitic speech in her church.
And how dare Palin imply that “we don’t know the real Barack Obama” when she was an unknown only a couple of months ago? We don’t know the real Sarah Palin, either.
How about McCain and Charles Keating? McCain and Hagee? McCain and Parsley? McCain being on the advisory board of U.S. Council for World Freedom, which was linked with ultra right wing death squads in Latin America?
The McCain campaign can sling all the mud they want, but they’d better be careful because there’s plenty of mud to be slung right back at them.

Understanding the McCain/Palin thinking then everyone on that board with Ayres is a terrorist. Any student who was in Ayre’s classes are terrorists. This is ludicrist. Their are enough shady characters in McCains past. Keating for one. Anyone who lost their savings with the Keating scandel would say McCain has no room to talk. This is a man McCain tried to protect when he knew Keating was slime.

The media (CNN, NY times and so on) did some digging and found nothing. Do some googling on CNN and Ayers .
However McCain is running this sleazy, sinister campaign and keep insisting that media is biased and has not been reporting on this issue.
So this is fight the media can’t win because this is the base of the desperate strategy of McCain. It’s the typical strategy of dumb six pack populism direction he had chosen, creating this “US against evil THEM”.
Leadership starts with having vision and doing it with style… McCain has no vision and his style… well, you be the judge about it.

McCain/Palin are endorsing HATE to their Republican supporters at these rallies!!!
The Republican Party have shown America that they are the KKK with their lies, smears, and RACIAL ATTACKS!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN08

Mccain is friends with the sitting president of this education board Obama and Ayers were on. She’s got ties to Ayers, what does that say about Mccain?
What about Gordon Liddy and Charles Keating? What about Palin’s ties to witch doctors and secessionists (Hi Todd!)?
I got news for all the idiots trying to push this NON story: Japan’s stock markets are crashing as we speak (10:10pm EST). Their stocks have plunged 11%. Ours just tanked 7%. Why is all this relevant? Look for more damage tomorrow morning. Mccain needs to start talking about the economy asap.
IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!

Here’s some names to throw in the wind that are related to both McCain and Palin: Charles Keating (Savings and Loan Scandal; cost taxpayers $2 billion), Gordon Liddy (Watergate), Joe Vogler (AIP Founder and quoted as saying “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government”), Eduardo Arocena (32 bombs and 2 deaths; still in jail), Annenberg (who support McCain, and if you want to go the whole “Guilt by Association” route, support Ayers).
Most of all, let’s not forget Mrs. Palin. Good luck on the investigation findings tomorrow.

Obama is either a pathological liar or, he is gullible as all get out. Either way, he is unfit to be POTUS. This would be comical if the race wasn’t so close. And, the race wouldn’t be close if the media wasn’t in the tank for him. Oops, am I allowed to say “race”?

Oh For God’s sake people! Stop the nonsens. Obama is lying. OK! To see it any other way is just plain stupid. Have your gripes about McCain and his past too but at least see this for what it is. He is much like Clinton was in the 90′s. A pathological liar who is digging himself deeper and deeper as he goes and is running out the clock in the next 3 weeks. Sheesh.

Every time McCain complains about the media, the media stop questioning the truth of his statements.
But, Sen Obama is just sitting there, trying to coast to the finish, letting himself get trashed in the media.
He should be gathering together economists, having press conferences surrounded by economists, housing professionals, anything to advance new ideas.

McCain is now officially into desperation mode. Next they will be crying about how Obama fathered two black children. The good news is it’s a sign that he’s losing–the bad news is he’s behaving in a shameful way after a mostly honorable career in the Senate. It’s always a shame to see someone I’ve otherwise respected sink to such lows.

It’s hard getting caught in a lie when America really needs a leader right now. We don’t need hope or change. We need a leader. Status quo is that you can just levarge off others while every body else deos theirs to keep the moving forward. We’ve all done it. But, right now for the first time in a long time we need a leader. Go McCain! You are the real leader. God bless America!

Keating took the McCain family on vacations with them during the time Keating was committing fraud on Lincoln customers. Keating went to prison for what he was doing while John McCain was “pallin’ around” with him.
Poor Cindy couldn’t find the receipts to show they had paid for the trips themselves, became so distraught that she “had” to start on pills.

SRC, McCain is no leader–he’s a maverick, which by definition is not a leader. That’s why he keeps copying Obama. He copies Obama on the “change” and “judgement” themes. He follows along behind Obama on the bailout package. He’s copied Obama on his energy plan, and even on foreign policy. We do need a leader. We need the leader that McCain keeps following behind. We need Barack Obama.

forgive them father, for they know not what they say.

“..I assumed….”
Gee, Obama, didn’t anyone ever tell you in all of your years of Ivy League education what “assume” means?

I wanted to follow up my position on the economy and why everyone (Republicans too) needs to refocus on the economy.
Morgan Stanley could be the next big collapse. We all recognize the name, it’s a finance giant in NY. They had investments in Lehman and now they need an $9 billion investment from Japan’s Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group.
Japan is having worse day on the markets than we just did (down 11%). Expect more bad news tomorrow. We have to focus on the economy.

John McCain is just desperate. If he really cared about his “friends”, he would forget about “that one” and talk about what really matters. Economy and Jobs. Its pathetic to see and old man stoop so low… and show himself to be a liar and a deceiver in his final years. I have no respect for the man. And to see Cindy McCain attack Obama and ignore the fact that her own Maverick voted against troop funding is disgusting.

And why couldn’t Senator Obama assume that Ayers had been rehabilitated, or repentant, or whatever? Ayers is a PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, for Heaven’s sake! The last I heard is that the U of Chicago doesn’t hire terrorists, warmongers, or other sordid characters to teach!

John McCain is just desperate. If he really cared about his “friends”, he would forget about “that one” and talk about what really matters. Economy and Jobs. Its pathetic to see and old man stoop so low… and show himself to be a liar and a deceiver in his final years. I have no respect for the man. And to see Cindy McCain attack Obama and ignore the fact that her own Maverick voted against troop funding is disgusting.

How can Obama hear the remarks that Ayers made on 9/11, know that Ayers is unrepentant, and STILL say he assumes Ayers is rehabilitated?
This is simply not logical, and again goes to the judgment question.

After all the other lies he has told about his friends and mentors, why should we believe what The Tainted One says now????
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony

The times are too serious to be pulling cheap dirty tricks like this. At home, we’ve got a heightening economic crisis, increasing joblessness threatening to undermine the livelihoods of entire towns, people’s retirement savings decimated, folks getting thrown out of their homes, and a regulatory framework guided by ideology rather than pragmatism. Overseas, we’re fighting two wars, an increasingly belligerent Iran, a resurgent Russia eager to reassert it’s influence on the former soviet bloc, ukraine destabilized, China rising, and North Korea unresolved, our alliances threatened due to our unilateral…and here we have John McCain playing these dirty totally irrelevant political games, inciting hate, destabilizing the markets with his political maneuvers, appointing an extremist running mate who knows NOTHING about the economy and the world a 72-year old heartbeat away from presidency, and dividing the country along choices (guns, race, abortion, religion, left-right) that are totally irrelevant to this new and very threatening environment, and having absolutely no solid plans to get us out of it. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I cannot believe that John McCain is STILL not interested in challenging Obama’s plans, and presenting to the American public why his plans are PRACTICALLY superior or relevant to the current environment, or plans that details a significantly different approach to the failures of the last 8 years. His healthcare plan is a farce, his tax plan is unsustainable, he has absolutely no solid ideas for our recovery plans, and absolutely no transition plan for when he assumes power, and shows the underlying influence of special interests in his policy making and his past judgement, and his foreign policy positions have been PROVEN wrong consistently, with his war mongering rhetoric getting increasingly aggressive…and NOW THIS???!!! It infuriates me the absurdity that this once great man has stooped to. We need a serious president, with a steady and even temperament, who is willing to listen to EVERYONE and come up with solutions that work for ALL OF US. We need a president who has the intellect, and the moral compass pointing true north to our interests, who helps the nation focus on what we have in common, not why we are different…we need a president who understands that issues should lie at the foundation of political attacks, not baseless associations focused on dominating the next news cycle. We need someone whose inner circle of influence is not tainted by special interests and lobbists, who has the highest probability of reforming Washington. We need someone who understands the new world order, and who understands that war is but ONE tactic, along with intelligence, diplomatic and economic leverage in our overall strategy to counter our foreign policy challenges today. We need a president who is a calming voice in this cacophony of chaos, who calls out to the best within all of us to lead us out of this hole we’ve dug ourselves into. We need a President who is a pragmatist, who has been consistent, with judgment that is guided by good nature rather than a thirst for power. We need someone with new ideas, and a new approach to change our course in history. ENOUGH WITH THIS PETTY HATE MONGERING, THE TIMES ARE TOO SERIOUS FOR THIS KIND OF NONSENSE. I DON’T CARE IF HE IS BLACK BLUE OR PURPLE, AND I DONT CARE IF HE IS PRO OR ANTI ABORTION, OR LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE…I JUST CARE THAT HE IS RIGHT FOR THE CHALLENGES WE NOW FACE. The republican voter suppression and caging efforts of 2004 and 2000 are very much underway and already making huge impacts across all the swing states, and the campaigning is only going to get more hateful. BARACK OBAMA IS OUR ONLY HOPE AMERICA, AND WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT HE WINS IN NOVEMBER.

And to think that I once considered voting McCain who is now just another fascist surrounded with secessionists… The Double Talk Express is surely on the bridge to no where!

Obama has known and worked with hundreds, if not thousands of people in his political life. Ayers is only one of them. McCain knows a few bad apples too. It isn’t that big a deal. Politicians work with all kinds of people. I’m bored with these stories.
Perhaps it’s time to talk about the economy now? Can we, please?

CONSERVATIVE radio host? Are you joking?

Very well said, he couldn’t have put it any better than that. I’m so glad he is the democratic candidate, I couldn’t be any more proud.

To be honest, I am much more concerned about Obama’s long-standing ties to ACORN, as well as the $800,000 of campaign money that Obama gave to them and then misrepresented it to the FEC, especially in light of all of the voter registration fraud that they have perpetrated during the election.
This is much more of a problem for me than Bill Ayers, and I have a feeling it is about to become a HUGE problem for Obama.

Why is he a member of the Democratic Socialist Party?

joe sixpack sez: “He helped us win the vietnam war and will help us win the war with pakistan.” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. In case you haven’t heard, John McCain and Richard Nixon LOST the war in Vietnam. Vietnam was another war we should never have foughte, like Iraq. Also, last time I heard we’re not at war with Pakistan, or has Bush bombed them too while I wasn’t looking.

Two WHOPPER lies Barack Obama has told the American people: 1. William Ayers was just “a guy in my neighborhood.” 2. And he (Obama) was never in church when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright was speaking racist or anti-American language. LIES! UNBELIEVABLE, ATROCIOUS LIES to hide from his now suddenly regrettable past mentors. I do not expect the Associated Press to conduct a fair and impartial investigation into these matters. That organization has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is protecting Barack Obama at every opportunity. However I know there must be a journalist in America who is still willing to go where the facts and truth leads. And I invite them to consider some of these questions: 1. Barack Obama keeps saying the same things about Bill Ayers. Can anyone find Ayers and ask him to comment? 2. Barack Obama was a member of the Rev. Wright’s church for decades and his close personal friend (actually closer to family) until it became politically inconvenient. Is anyone trying to interview Rev. Wright about Sen. Obama? 3. Is anyone asking Sen. Obama to comment at length about his activities during his virtually unknown college years at Occidental and Columbia? Is anyone finding any of Obama’s fellow students at these institutions that remember him? Has anyone asked Obama why he won’t release his senior thesis or his transcripts? Too many unanswered questions and too much untruthfulness from someone who wants us to entrust him with the country.

Our country continues to need serious introspection about our foreign policies. From the Iran contra affair, the Jesuit Priest massacre in El Salvador, the protracted Vietnam war, and now the preemptive strike against Iraq; even the fact that WE were the ones who introduced nuclear technology to the world — we’re just so afraid to hold up a mirror to see who we really are.
William Ayers wants us to hold up a mirror. He causes people to think, to be pensively introspective. Just because Barack Obama served on a board with a distinquished Professor who happened to be well-connected in the education profession in Chicago, does not make Barack a terrorist. My word, that was 40-years ago!
George Bush hangs out with the bin Laden family, and the Bush family has been good friends with the Saudi’s for decades. Does that make them terrorists? I hardly think so. They are oil men and Ayers and Obama are educators. Get over it.
Will we allow the radicals on the right or the left to distract us from the real prize? – that of supporting the one candidate who has the commitment to implement a national health care plan in his first four years in office; the one candidate who has the most ambitious alternative energy program we’ve ever seen which will enhance our national security while reducing our dependence on foreign oil; the one candidate who offers a fresh new approach to foreign policy which will help re-establish friendly relationships with our traditional allies while we resurrect our position of leadership and respect in the world through our economic strength, not our military? Or, will we be duped by the fear-mongers, the nay-sayers, the Matt Drudge, Limbaugh, and Hannity shock jock crowd; who make a living speaking spewing hatred.
Nubtail — You can do better. And, we can do better than McCain for a President. Obama is not perfect but at least he’s brilliant. He’s going to make a fine President, you watch.

Hey Bishop, the 1929 stock market crash happened while Republican president Hoover was in office. It took a democrat “socialist” like FDR to pull America out of the Republican tank back then too.

The deal with Ayers and Obama is true. Obama flaked out on the truth. He spent six years working with Ayers. Oh, and what about that birth certificate Obama? You would think that something as simple as a birth certificate is becoming extremely difficult to produce. Now there is a federal lawsuit against Obama and the DNC. Where is your birth certificate, your school records and your medical records? Why
have you refused to release these records? Obama is always hiding his
truth. The American people deserve better and they surely don’t need
four years of socialism. Oh who’s got that short list of sellers Chris Cox?

Lee, no, Obama is no FDR. I don’t think America can produce leaders like FDR anymore. We’ve become a personality cult where substance is of no consequence. Remember when political parties had platforms that candidates ran on? Those platforms were made of policy “planks”. We all voted for the party whose “platform” best represented our views. Today we vote for the candidate that will promise us the most stuff they have no intention of delivering or who is a “real American”.

Can somebody please tell me how a Terrorist can be rehabilitated?
How many of you want us to try to rehabilitate Osama Bin Laden?
Is Obama saying that he thinks that Terrorists, those who struck us in 9-11 can be rehabilitated?
There Republicans thats your new attack ad. Use it!!!!!

Ogivemeabreak, Obama! In 2001, post 9-11, Bill Ayers said he wished he’d done more when planning and attempting to blow up US Govt. facilities. Obama didn’t hear it?
Lies, lies, lies. And who is David Axlerod?
I know. I live in Chicago. I have lived in Cook county for longer than Obama. Axlerod has been the mouthpiece of and denier for the Chicago Democratic machine through more investigations, indictments and convictions than the entire so-called congress of the Bush era during the entire Obama presidential campaign.
Barack is an unrepentant and unabashed supporter a litany of lower approval rating Chicago Democrats than the entire Bush administration.
The only people Obama and his campaign don’t seem to vet or know about, are the people supporting Obama and helping Obama. Obama has supported verbally, in the face of much negative news about, at least until it became politically inexpedient, if not still, a litany of unsavory characters. If Obama wins this election, he will win another race, that of the most supportive of and most supported by those investigated, indicted and eventually imprisoned. Reform, change? Yeah, if changing deodorant and toilet paper are counted.
Obama and his campaign claim to know so much about McCain, Palin, Bush, Cheney, etc., who they have likely never spent 1/100 the time with as they have spent with Ayers, Rezko, Wright, Stroger, Daley, etc.
And yet at every opportunity, Obama claims to not have known about any of the unsavory or illegal activities of his own supporters and mentors. And his mouthpiece, David Axelrod, has repeatedly, sadly successfully so far, protected every Democrat he’s campaigned for, from fallout from knowing these well known Chicago Democratic machine unsavory characters.
Given the Obama campaign’s denials of any longstanding knowledge Bill Ayers, how, with a straight or Chicago machine politics crooked face, can Obama or David Axelrod even say anything negative about Sarah Palin, who, likely, neither had ever even met more than two months ago, or has know of, or even followed, before Obama declared his presidential candidacy?
On the subject of Jeremiah Wright, Dennis Miller summed it up best. According to Obama’s own statements during the O’Reilly Factor interviews, Obama, through almost 500 sermons, never realized any of the anti-American inflammatory sentiments of his spiritual leader. [20 years, 2x a month=24x a year]. Ogivemeabreak, Obama!

Bishop, what’s the difference. Coolidge is just another Repbublican. So Collidge got us into the depression and Hoover couldn’t get us out? Simplistic I know but the great depression did happen on a Republican watch, and the policies crafted by FDR are, in large measure, responsible for ending it and setting up a regulatory infrastructure that kept it from happening again until this year.

I believe just like now it took them all and It did take 24 years to gain back what we lost I am now an Independent but until June I was a center of the road democrat.

“My father was from Kenya so I’ve got an Arab-sounding name.”
Uh huh. It was Barry up until what year? Only after his full indoctrination into his life of shady deals, associations, and cover stories did he change it to Barrack Hussein Obama. He named himself that, not his Arab father.

Obama might not have “worked” for six years with Ayers, but their acquaintance definitely goes back to the late ’80s when Michelle (then Robinson) and Ayers’ wife both worked at Sidley & Austin in Chicago and Obama came to work there on summer break from law school.

Emmm. “Barry” was his nickname growing up. “Barack Hussien Obama is the name on his birth certificate.

Bishop, you’re right. It took both parties’ collective incompetence to cause the great depression, just like the one looming on the horizon now. We’re on the edge of a MAJOR change in lifestyle and no politician can change that now. It just might take us another 24 years to recover from the loss. Unfortuately, I’ll probably be dead by then. That wal-mart greeter job is looking pretty good right now.

Anna, what birth certificate? The fake one, the one supposedly in the “vault” that no one has seen, or the registry of birth? No one has yet to prove he was even born in Hawaii (two different hospitals in Honolulu?), let alone what his name was.

Emmm, his birth certificate has been seen and verified. I’ve tried to link to the site twice, but apparently it’s against the rules.

Chris in Texas
this is not about Obamas birth certificate its about his association with AYers who gave money from a grant to him for ACORN and ACORN is now suspected of voter fraud in 7 states if that happned in NC in the primaries and prevented a Hillary Clinton win I will be angry

you obamabots are crowing that is over and that Obama is head in al the states etc but what if those leads… most within the margin of error… are fueled by ACORNs work which is unconstitutional… you igits claimed that it was not unconstitutional for Hillary to be beaten like she was in the primaries but voter fraud like mail fraud is a federal offense … you igits are dumber than dumb!

staniam – I was responding to the idiots who keep questioning Obama’s citizenship. No one can run for the US presidency without be a VERIFIED natural born citizen. This is VERIFIED by US intelligence and federal police (FBI) agencies. Questions about ACORN are legitimate questions and deserve an answer. Personally I think the ACORN stuff is no more relevant that the ballot stuffing accusations against LBJ in South Texas

Grownup its not the city itself its the 50 miilion given to Obama by the anneburg foundation to give to ayers that was to be used for an education grant… but it was used for ACORN which did voter registration…ACORN which consists of many organizations are handling Obama fundraising…this is a travesty and its a good thing that justice caught you before they election its not to late…as bad as the financial crisis is… Obama seized on it as a distraction.. this has to stop we will push back and push you obamabots right over the cliff! you have not won yet!

Chris
absoultely or the mafia registering dead people in in Chicago in 1960…times change but people dont… imagine claiming to be helping poor people while pocketing millions for yourself and using it for a nongermain appropriation… non germain means not realated since Obama hasnt been in the snate long enough to learn the rules!

Sorry I fogot to say that my advisor has said that I didn’t know Ayers past when I met him.
He is just just another guy I met on Chicago steet, wrongly ended up in his living room

Emm
no democratic candidate has ever won the nomination by losing several key states like Obama did… now we know why, ACORN!

This is what Obama’s friends and supporters are – Ayers, Farakkan, Bernadettle DOhm, Khalid mansoor, Rev Jeremiah wrigh and the list goes on.
And Obama wants to be President?

gregh
there is a cancer growing on the presidency before he even gets into office…sounds nixonian to me

It’s clear that many of the posters are gleeful to have an excuse to hate the black man. It’s actually very scary. Do you people hear yourselves?
If only John McCain got as much news coverage of his ugly dealings and associates, I might be able to stomach this nonsense. The man consistently tries to tie Obama to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, but which candidate employs (lets manage their campaign, in fact) a person who received $15,000 PER MONTH from the two crooked companies, until they were taken over by the government. Yes, he was taking money even when running McCain’s campaign. To quote Bob Dole, “where’s the outrage?”

“Yes, he was taking money even when running McCain’s campaign.”
And wasn’t he dismissed after this came to light?

Some of you people really need to go out and get a newspaper — stop reading the propaganda on the McCain website.
Some of you people are so desperate to keep a democrat out of the White House that you’ll latch onto anything the republican machine wants you to believe. Don’t you realize that they’re just using you to get richer and gain more power? Keep you scared, keep you riled up, and keep you poor. They let you join their party, but they’re laughing at you all the way to the bank.

I am a teacher and sit on a board with a lot of other people. Some I like, some I definitely do not like, but the nature of a board is to have differing opinions. As a board member, I did not choose these people, nor do I have the right to dismiss anyone. We meet once a month at most, and I have nothing to do with them outside of that contact. To attack Barack Obama over his attendance at board meetings where Ayers was also a member is absurd, dishonest, and with the type of language and hype the Republicans are putting into it, increasingly dangerous. We need to stand up to this party and tell them we will not take their dangerous lies and tactics any more.

Bill
forget about it… this is a federal offense that the obama campaign committed and it makes sense to everyone now… go away perhaps you wont go to jail!

That’s pretty much the point I’m trying to make, emm.

Katherin
you dupe… its not just about sitting on a board… Obama was the poltician that gave the money to Ayers that was granted to him byt he anneburg foundation and they used it for voter registration rather than the schools which it wasan education grant

That’s pretty funny. It turns out that there is actually someone in John McCain’s campaign who was on that same Annenberg Challenge board with Obama and Ayers. LOL. Of course, since the Annenberg Foundation was founded by Republicans, that’s not so surprising.
Terrorists?!

Emm
I hope that people wake up and see what has been going on here…luckily the polls arent out of reach and it would make it even better if Obama got his lead from the “vast new regstration of voters” from ACORN… that would be intstant discrediting… I think they even could delay inauguration day to do a full investigation innauguration day used to be in march back in FDRs time… but ofcourse the airhead obamabots dont know that about history

I really can’t believe what I am reading here. 3 or 4 people chris from texas, Annna etc. Giving us a Sarah Palin by repeating the same line, over and over and over. Completely lame
“We don’t need hope and change we need a leader..” Anna
Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha
Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,
Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,
right! We had a leader the last eight years. It did not work out to well for us.
I think i’ll try hope and change
You guys need to wake up to reality and
stop spreading hate. I don’t care about these acquaintances. I wan’t to here how McCain will fix this economy
with real details not some pathetic cop out like “I will be a Maverick” Just tell me what youa re going to do so I can decide!

RL in Illinois
you must know about it all then… why did this have to come out this late… the Obama people are either very vbery good, very criminal or both there is no room for extremism in poltics like this

Obama’s political coming out party was hosted by Bill Ayers and Bernadin Dohrn in their home.
Money from Acorn was misdirected from housing to Ayer’s educational pursuits:
“Obama-Ayers Channeled Annenberg Money to ACORN to Advance Leftist Agenda is Chicago Schools”
“Terrorist Bill Ayers and Obama did work closely together on the Anneberg project (CAC), sought to circumvent local schools to apply leftist teachings and did funnel CAC money to organizations fronting for ACORN”!
“According to the documents, the CAC granted money to far-leftist causes, such as the radical Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which, WND reported, has done work on behalf of Obama’s presidential campaign” …… LIKE DEFRAUDING ELECTION LISTS!!!!!
And please don’t try the patience of those “non-believers” who find it enormously difficult to call his association with Ayers fleeting and innocuous when it has been proven that Obama was promoting Ayers’ book in 1997, serving on boards with him until 2002, and trading emails and phone calls with him as recently as 2005!
AND IF HE IS SO COMFORTABLE WITH THIS ASSOCIATION, WHY DOES HE HAVE TO LIE??

eyes extremely wide open
yep I heard a board of electons worker being interviewed on CNN from Indiana where they had some suspect registrations in the primaries and now they have to deal with suspect registrations for the GE and she said they dont have time to go through them all but about 2000 were fraudulent

Hope CHange
yea wasnt that the motto in 1960 and other elections… “vote early and often” this is the October surrose and it gives the people not supporting Obama some relief btu no comfort in the fact that laws in this country continue to be broken… if al gore had aske for a statewide recount of florida rather than broward co he wouldve had a big enough margin to overtake bush… what will the supreme court do this time…I have a feeling I will agree with their ruling this time… this is grounds for automatic contestation of the election

RL in Illinois
you must know about it all then… why did this have to come out this late… the Obama people are either very vbery good, very criminal or both there is no room for extremism in poltics like this
Posted by: staniam | Oct 10, 2008 1:02:33 AM
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all of this stuff WAS brought up before by Hillary Clinton, for one, and on other blogs.
The press was in L O V E with Obama and hid anything that could have besmirched his name…. and that’s pretty much still the case.
However, there are a few NEWSPAPERMEN out there…. like in the WALL STREET JOURNAL….wwho have finally decided that enough damage has be done, and decided to give us facts rather than slanted-one-way only opinion!
Let’s hope it’s not too little to late!!!

eyes extremely wide open
it is our constitutional duty to challenge these frauds…do not be afraid of these people… even the press is saying that Obamas plane smells and he doesnt give availability… I know thats not germaine but it goes to the same point

I wonder why Obama would take the stand that he assumed, has he not heard the break down ASSuME (it is rather amussing were talking about a Democrat who’s mascot is a jack ASS.

I hate to say it but the republicans are right on this… I will now vote for Mccain or a third party… it is clear Obamas activities or those on behalf of him were fraudulent… that cannot stand!

Did you know James B. Fowler, McCain’s friend who was busted for smuggling heroin out of Thailand, is the same guy who shot Jimmie Johnson, an unarmed black man, and set off a movement that led to The Voting Rights Act? Ironic that McCain knows the guy whose killing of an unarmed black man led to the Voting Rights Act. Very Ironic.

Staniam:
We need a constitutional law lawyer….. in fact, this is a situation which should be visited by the Supreme Court!
AND I HOPE IT IS!
(the only constitutional law lawyer who comes to mind is B O….maybe he can defend himself!)

eyes extremely wide open
yea Im sure axelrod has a sense of humor.. that was brazen attempt to flaunt obama as a constitutional lawyer while breaking federal laws…..Im sure there can be a class action suit filed in federal court but I have to reasearch that…Im not going to go through 4 yrs of what we had to do for the last 8 yrs with bush… I told everyone that Obama was using Bush tactics.. nobody listened!

Anna, you are so right! Well said!

Yes, but what I think Obama and all of his followers are forgetting is that even though the Dems control both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court is even more conservative than it was in 2000.

Lee
yep so if there is a challege to the election they cant manipulate that…its jsut mind boggling that we have 26 days and this comes out… these Obamabots are very good but fatally flawed

eyes extremely wide open
yea I remember you from the primary days and how these bozos were crying after the Hillary/obama debate in PA saying that we trashed their dreams and all .. what a crock!

Lee
absoultely… and Donna Brazille just plops out there daily on CNN being nonapplogetic nothing should be said against sen Kennedy at this time, but Obama was ahead of Hillary by less than what keenedy was behind Carter in 1980… and anyway why didnt Hillary bring the acorn stuff up mor forcefully… was she paid by them too ?

staniam: “eyes” is correct that Hillary knew it. I think everybody knew it-except the voters. And the nightly news audience still doesn’t know. She was getting crucified by her own party. I think the closest she got to spilling all of it was when she said “he is unelectable.”
St. Louis radio today is reporting Acorn voter fraud investigations. Robin Carnahan(whose entire family has supported Obama along with Claire McCaskill) was defensive. She said this should not be partisan. The host answered true, but it is the group supported by Democrats. She also said that we should all be glad for the investigation. Another guest gave a history of Obama and Acorn. Still it’s not the nightly news. What about all the early votes?

Wow I don’t think Mccain/Palin ticket should be overstating anyones past judgements lest the “Keating Five Scandal and the Bridge to Nowhere” come right back at them and slap them in the face. I mean really check out Bill Ayers and how Ronald Reagan personally gave Ayers the highest honor a civilian can receive “The Presidential Medal of Freedom”. Now does that make Reagan a Terrorist?

staniam
The fact that you said we, shows that you are exactly what I said a loyal republican. People like you are the problem with this country. You are a typical ignorant voter that will vote based on a sound bite. You don’t understand political strategies vs. campaigning on issues. If you haven’t figured it out yet. Every politician has a past. I already know about Acorn. I don’t have to look it up. If it comes out factually that Obama knew about voter fraud, then he should not win and Mccain would be the best bet. Bet u and everyone else has to use their common sense.
Isn’t it funny that George Bush and John Mccain was for giving oil companies tax cuts that they didn’t ask for. Warren Buffett himself said that our tax system caters to the rich.

Trust me. Anybody that is endorsing deregulation, or free markets with no oversight is a risk to our future. Getting rid of the oversights of the financial institutions was the KO shoot to the crisis. Please listen for deregulation hints. Ex. Mccain health care plans was to allow interstate health care. Interstate banking was one of the first steps of deregulation in banking. Mccain scares me when he talks about financial issues. He doesn’t know what he is talking about at all. We don’t need anybody out of touch with financial fundamentals.

The Presidential Medal of Honor was given by Reagan to Walter Annenberg… not to William Ayers.

Marc 10:
” You are mad at Barck for spanking Hilary, so you want to take it out on Obama”
I hope you grow up before November 4th!

Marc 10
all this happned when Obama was running for st senate in Il and obama as a st senator delivered money from the anneburg foundation to ayers who gave it to ACORN… enough said

stanim
do your history check. froad as you put it is not from the obama camp. do some research. would you rather have an educated man as president or someone that has cheated on the closest person to him and has told her he loves her thousands of times and then in her time of need he drops her like shes hot. ooooh and lets not forget his bad judgement in his savings and loans scandals of the 80s

marc 10
I suppose you have proof of this obama annenberg money laundering thing you are spouting right?

staniam
can you direct me to your research site on this situation?

Palin is also under investigation. George Bush will be under investigation. I am not bias, if Obama is wrong and factually showed to be wrong, then he will deserve judgment. Both you need to be open and lose the emotional judgment. Remember the Clinton’s had a sick passed. From getting some action in the white house, pardening criminals, land investorgations and remember I smoked but didn’t inhale. As a democrat, how are you voting for Mccain.

Marc 10
Obamas main fundraising arm is under official investigation in 11 states so far and that pales compared to cheatign that Pres Clinton did or Mccain being callous in the 1980s this is a federal offense

>>
McCain was exonerated!
Obama’s close associations with Ayers which have gone on well over a decade…. were and are.. documented and confirm his worst nightmare!
He was guilty of inveigling funds from use for low cost housing to Ayers radical educational systems AS WELL AS
ELECTION FRAUD!
And if you can’t understand that taking money from the public’s funds and pocketing it for your own personal use ….. as … in A C O R N’s illicit activities… then you BELONG in Texas!
Do your homework…..

staniam
Be serious we are not talking about cliton we are talking about the people running for president right now. I admit bill clinton was an ass, but didn’t you hate that then? and so what makes mccain different… other than he left his wife in the lerch. I admit I appreciate what mccain did in vietnam, but that does not mean I want that one running the country.

staniam
I read your republican article. So you are saying that you know that Obama funded Acorn millions of dollars with the signing of his pin? You are saying that his main campaign arm is under investigation.
Now, staniam I want you to understand the difference between political attacks and facts. Use your mind. If what you are saying is true, then Mccain is a weak and shouldn’t be president. The article needs to be fact checked because Mccain wouldn’t have passed up a game changer by not bringing up the Acorn scandal.
Also, Mccain only has 3 weeks to gain back momentum. Looks like you have some work to do.
Why did you say we, if you are a democrat.

eyes
don’t be close minded about this. Mccain was the only one with Close Personal ties to keating. In fact Mccain had received over 100,000 in polical contributions and his wife had various business dealings with the man as well. Plus personal trips at keetings expense in the Bahamas.For free? when was the last time anyone took you to the Bahamas 9 times for free?

well brothers and sisters I really enjoyed the debate and appreciate the otherside of the debate. But always keep in mind we are all in this together and no matter who wins I still feel we need to eliminate the party system and elect the INDIVIDUAL based upon their personal views and direction they truely beleive in and NOT what the party they are under subscribes to.
CIAO

Eyes:
You are so observant: But you don’t even wee how Mccain in his rush to win is lossing America. He doesn’t have the honor to calm his crowd down, when they are shooting kill him, and terrorist.
This is America and just because Barack is in the top two and could possibly be the next president, should demand good judgment by John Mccain.

I couldn’t agree more Eddy. He lacks prudence. He has an arrogance that is scary. A basic disrespect for people. He couldn’t even look at Obama in his eye. Even if Mccain became president, he should still conduct himself in a way that will allow him to work with democrats in the future. You don’t act rude to the main man and call him that one, when you will need the majority democrats senators and congress to have pass your bills.

What I don’t understand is how does Mccain say “Country is First” but picks his campaign first so consistently.
It is obvious Palin was picked to be a curve ball and a game changer vs. the next best republican to lead in case of Mccain’s death.
Was “Country First with picking Palin”
Country was second.
Foreclosures
Banks crashing
Bail out increasing higher taxes in the future
High Gas prices
A war in IRAQ
Bin Laden still Alive
And he picked Palin. Country was last his campaign was first. Mccain is self and to disassocaited with the people.

marc
yes i agree… did you watch as he announced his vp…. he was twitching and fumbling with his fingers like a school boy. This was not his choice, but the repulican party counter to Hillary Clinton and it worked great, but do we really want a community college grad as second in command. If people would stop looking at the rhetoric and research some of this stuff we would not even be having this debate. It would be mute… oh with a cutsy japanese girl smile and little slogan “say it isnt so joe”. Jesus I just about fainted and had to pull up some of my japanese videos just to realize that it was the real sarah palin and not some recording of my jlist videos.

eddy hill
ok I get it your an ultra conservative trying to goad us real democratsyour upset over the bailout thing and dont care if Mccain loses well you didnt count on Obama being a lightweight and accesory after the fact

Marc 10
nope… Biden is what they call the senator from MBNA because the laws are lax there so thats where the creidt card companies make their home

marc
unfortunatley many people vote due to their heart and not their head. Much of the vote goes to one side or the other is due to abortion rights and little about how they really feel. Many politicians (no suprise) really tell how they feel about such close personal feelings and this is due to the party system. I mean lets be for real if you think you will get a huge amount of votes just by saying yes I beleive this way or that… well what is a used car…errr i mean politician to do?

Marc10
honor is not calming a crowd down… you must be from the grass constituencuy… Obama wont legalize pot if hes elected he will be in enough trouble anyone who would even think of touching the stuff is morally bankrupt

Marc 10
or another scenario is you are independants tryingto cause chaos and screw with democracy…. your obama days are numbered

eyes extremely wide open
I considered ron paul after mccain because he has sent me the most mail and I didnt even sigbn up on a website

I love it how Obama has the courage to go on conservative talk radio, conservative TV (Bill O’Reilly) and take on the very people who “don’t like him” face to face, yet Palin can only give interviews (when she ever does) to only those who agree with her politically.
McCain and his crew can level all kinds of charges against Obama behind his back, but as Obama recently pointed out, doesn’t have the GUTS to say it to his face.
That is cowardice, plain and simple.

staniam
are you serious? how much cocain do you think bush has done? more than you can well imagine. and he is an idiot. lowest score on the texas national guard entry examine. give me a break. or are we looking at eh current running constituants?

“He worked closely with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge.”
No he didn’t. Ayers wasn’t even on the eight-person board of directors with Obama. Ayers had a part in setting it up, and did, I believe, attend at least some of the meetings (which were only quarterly) as Ayers still worked on the operations side of things I think. But ‘worked closely’? I think not.
“The New York Times did an indepth piece on his association with Ayers and concluded that Obama is playing down the extent of this relationship.”
Yes, it was a fairly indepth piece. And what did they also say? “Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment” “… the two men do not appear to have been close.” Try reading the article yourself instead of relying on someone else’s out-of-context snippets from it.

Charles,
Palin nor Mccain will never go on NBC like Obama went to FOX. He clearly showed his intelligence to go against supper lying and bias FOX and agianst O’Reilly, which is very good and ask hard questions.
Mccain got beat up by Morning Joe, who is a Republican. That is a shame.

staniam
Nuts? so our military men and women are nuts? out there doing what is expected of them and giving everything. Hmmm I saw the pictures and it was enough to make me want to kill. But that is not what happened in this part of the world. Problem is there is no oil and that just does not make for good business now does it. Mccain is wrong and he is stretching the truth about everything, but forgetting about his own ghosts that are in his own closet. Really watch the next debate…. has Mccain been anything but a used car salesmen? My friends? That is the oldest trick in the car business my friends and lead into a banter about how bad the other person is and then without any truth to the next statement say MINE IS BETTER. Wow that is very thought provoking without any proof except is dishonest and scandalous past. History repeats itself and John Mccain will repeat himself.

staniam
so we convict people of crimes we might have commited now. What is this Minority Report? You are guilty before you are found guilty. How about that sarah palin…. I said no to the bridge to nowhere….. she backed it untill it got kicked by the house.

Joe is not a punk. I like him. He hits anybody in the mouth. It is the only show that is unbias. If you go on morning Joe’s Show you better be ready.

ah Davis is finnally going to get whats coming to him.. they thought they ran out the clock …or maybe someone in the campaign with a conscience leaked the ayers connection

staniam: Read your link. It doesn’t say what you think it says. E.g.:
“Ayers’ group chose Barack Obama to distribute the money”
Note first that it says Ayers’ GROUP chose Obama, not Ayers. That’s because Ayer’s didn’t personally choose Obama – just like the New York Times article says.
The second bit is just garbage though. Obama was one member of an EIGHT PERSON board. They collectively, not individually, chose how to distribute the funding. Of course, the article doesn’t mention that, despite it being a (glaringly obvious) fact.
Sheesh. That’s the best you could come up with?

you cant copy Ws tactics and expect to win … that can only happen twice

Posted by: Aengil | Oct 10, 2008 4:11:12 AM
nyt is in the tank for bho–like most msm. the annenberg papers are clear on the associaitons.
Posted by: Davis | Oct 10, 2008 4:18:16 AM
you forgot to mention bho’s relations with the sds, black liberation, and other socialist organizations.
Posted by: Eddy Hill | Oct 10, 2008 4:18:42 AM
actually, biden and bho voted for the bridge–twice!
Posted by: Davis | Oct 10, 2008 4:18:16 AM
actually i believe bho is the most un-american…actually, i do not think he is even american. if he is, he sure is working hard not to prove it.

staniam
Do the math? If Acorn is pading votes, then who are the pading the votes with homeless.
Even if 100% of blacks voted, it will only account for 12% of American voters. Homeless votes would accountfor only 3% of the 12 percent. They said that they caught 1000 false votes. I am sorry staniam but 1000 votes is not pading. Acorn can’t account for the padding it is the economy that is padding his votes.
You have to use your brains not your emotions.

marc 10
the polls have gotten closer since yesterday aand the problem isn t who will vote the problem is that you have fraud on your hands

Marc 10
it could be that obama gave the order because his campain gave millions to ACORN

Let me ask you another question.
If Mccain took money from Freddie Mac, and Barack took money from Freddie Mac, those that mean that they were involved with the credit crisis.

Look here my friend,
Because Acorn cheated, it doesn’t mean that Barack gave the order. The only evidence that they have is 1000 votes per distict that cheated. Until they get the order of who cheated, then you are foolish to draw a conclusion that hasn’t been proven yet.
Your best bet, would be to stop praying for his fall, and wait to see if first he is able to be proven as a partner in the Acorn scandal. Until you know, you will continue to accuse him without facts, which is foolish. Calm down and think with your mind not your emotions. It works.

marc10
and you better pray that ACORN didnt cause the fraud with Obama money which is way more than 1000 votes in 11 states thats just the tip of th iceburg..these are bad people who are doing nothing of the sort as far as helping out low income people its afront organization

If are a democrat. You are acting like a republican politian. Accusing and lieing on someone and spreading fear. The fear and smear campaign of staniam.

Obama thought Ayers was rehabilitated? Really? Obama then needs to argue that he doesn’t read the newspapers, and didn’t see the Chicago Sun Times article on Ayers in August of 2001 with a picture of Ayers stomping on a US flag or the NY Times article “No regrets” published on 9-11-2001.
And let’s remember how long Obama denied hearing any of Jeremiah Wright’s hatred before admitting that he lied.
Obama said that knowing Ayers was a reason to elect Obama to the US Senate.
Didn’t know Ayers?
Obama has a real problem with the truth.

Proof Obama is linked to ACORN?
Where does one go to school to get a degree in “Entrepreneur”?
Obama has been funding ACORN for a long time. He was their lawyer and their head trainer for a time. It may well be that they learned their practice of fraudulent voter registration from Obama.

105% of voters are registered in Indianapolis and 112% of voters are registered in Virginia.
That ACORN is really doing a bang-up job.
Wonder where they learned all this stuff?

I hope the media will follow Stanley Kurtz in finding what Obama’s other radical friends were doing that CAUSED the sub-prime crisis: bullying banks into making such loans.
See
“How a Young Chicago Litigator Helped Create the Subprime Housing Crisis”
And
“O’S DANGEROUS PALS” By STANLEY KURTZ

Why oh why wont the media do their job that they get paid for? The lies keep coming but the media ain’t counting!! Brotha HObama thought Akers had seen the errors of his ways?Rehab for Akers? This is the same as saying you had nothing to do with ACORN yet you have your fingerprints on their coffers dude! You helped indoctrinate the Bozos’ in the Ways and Means of Voter purge and Bank bullying!Its my guess that you and your so called good intentions are the reason Fannie and Freddie took a hit making Welfare loans to non working Americans. HObama fiddled while America burned!!

Assumed he was rehabilitated. OK..right on, think we believe that lie? He makes it up as he goes along. PATHETIC.
Obama paid ACORN $800,000. to register new voters.
There is going to be a huge problem with the vote this year.. Obama needs to be investigated, he is sneaky and engaging in unlawful practices in order to win the Presidency.
Please report this story ABC.,

ml: “Assumed he was rehabilitated.”
Well, what would you call it? Was he planting bombs when Obama met him? Was he a fugitive from justice? No. Was he a respected member of the community, a university professor of education, and an expert on educational issues? Yes.
I’d call that rehabilitated too.

Give me a break. Obama comes up with every excuse for his crazy associations and people buy it. Rezko was a “boneheaded” mistake. He never heard Wright say bad things about American ….oh, no! Now, he thought Ayers was “rehabilitated.” This man is a pathological liar. Can anyone think of a presidential election where the American people didn’t want to know about the character of their president? This is no different, and the relationship between Obama and Ayers goes to the heart of the character issue. In any other election if a candidate knew someone like Ayers is would be disqualifying. Why not now?

As for the rhetoric at the McCain/Palin rallies:
It seems these things have been said within earshot of the media. The “sit down” comment was made TO a media cameraman.
It seems whoever made these comments wanted to be noticed by the media. Leading me to conclude there’s a waaaaay better than average chance that they’re Obama plants.
Why would the Obama campaign do this? In order to silence McCain/Palin’s bringing up Ayers at their rallies.

What exactly make Smerconish “conservative”? His wife is a major fund-raiser for Obama.

you should be scared! I’m not buying his excuses for ALL his crazy associations. I’m a Dem, voting McCain. Obama is toooo involved with the terrorists in this world.

Aengil, I stand corrected on the “I never met him” quote. Here’s the original Obama quote from the January 21st debate when Hillary brought up Rezko:
“Here’s what happened: I was an associate at a law firm that represented a church group that had partnered with this individual to do a project and I did about five hours worth of work on this joint project. That’s what she’s referring to. Now, it’s fine for her to throw that out, but the larger reason that I think this debate is important is because we do have to trust our leaders and what they say. … And consistency matters. Truthfulness during campaigns makes a difference.”
When later asked whether he had minimalized his relationship with Tony Rezko at the debate, Obama responded “Look, I was in a debate in which I’ve got 30 seconds to answer questions…”
As for my original quote, I was apparently getting my wires crossed with Nadhmi Auchi, part of the Obama/Ayers/Auchi triangle. And Obama didn’t say of Auchi, “I never met him” but “I have no recollection of having met him.” That lawyer-speak helped when it was proven that Obama attended a party thrown by Rezko in honor of Auchi.

Thank you, Jake.

Zank: “Why was Obama working with Ayers who believed in that philosophy?
Answer: Because Obama shares similar views.”
So… you think Arnold Weber, who was also on the Chicago Annenburg Challenge board of directors with Obama, is also a marxist? Even though he was a member of the Nixon administration, and has donated money to the McCain campaign?
Sheesh!

“Note: college professors don’t count as terrorists.”
Obviously, you never went to USC.

I’ts kind of funny that when a questionable characteristic of Obama is brought to light by the Republicans… like his lying about his association with Ayers and with Rezko….. their campaign has turned nasty.
BUT…
when Obama’s backers accused Palin of actually being the GRANDmother of Trig, and when his storm-searchers trekked to Alaska to find the dirt on a governor has won an 80 percent approval rating from her state….. that’s perfectly acceptable.
Keep on slurping the kool-aid guys……

It’s all about trust & character …
Let’s see … a war vet with a lifetime of service to his country (from a family with a history or service), or Obama & his radical 60′s terrorist has-been friends (who are now just 60′s radicals working from the inside), and a pastor that he listened to for 20 YEARS preaching whitey hate … 20 YEAR is a long time to not really know somebody.
No-brainer.

Obama’s “last eight years” is a red herring designed to absolve democrats…even SNL made fun of democrats’ involvement in the crisis…does he not get it? At least McCain admits it is a bipartisan issue…

marylou: “there’s still much more beneath the surface than has seen the light of day”
How do you know that, if it hasn’t seen the light of day?
You don’t.
All we want are the facts, ma’am.

Go read “Ayers Has Not Left Radicalism Behind” yesterday at ibdeditorial
Anyone who buys that ridiculous ‘I was 8 when he did a bad thing’ line is a gullible moron.

Obama’s relationship with Ayers has been close and long-term, stretching from as early as 1983 (when both were attending Columbia U. in NYC, working with the same faculty mentor and living within walking distance of each other) through the present. That relationship includes:
–1987 when BO was working as a community organizer for the Alinsky-style Developing Communities Project (DCP) and Ayers was a new assistant professor of education at the U. of Ill. Chicago Circle Campus, involved politically with the public schools crisis and looking to DCP as an ally.
–1988 when Ayers solicited Khalid al-Mansour to raise money for BO’s Harvard education. (Mansour, a Black Muslim (NOI), was a mentor to Black Panther Party founders and advisor to Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal, one of the world’s richest men.)
–1989 when Ayers and his father Tom Ayers (very prominent Chicago businessman and former head of Commonwealth Edison) got Obama a job at Sidley Austin law firm, where Michelle was already working, as was Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn, who apparently had been hired as a favor to Tom Ayers.
–1993 when Bill Ayers placed BO on the Chicago Woods Foundation.
–1995 when Bill Ayers made BO chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge through year 2000.
–1995 when Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn hosted the launch of Obama’s political career at their Chicago home.
–1997 when MO, who was then Assoc. Dean of Student Services and Director of the Community Service Center (CSC) at U. of Chicago, invited Bill Ayers and her husband, BO, then a senior lecturer in the University’s Law School, to speak at a University-sponsored juvenile justice panel at the CSC.
–1997 when BO prepared a book blurb for Ayers’ book.
–2002 when Ayers and BO again appeared together on a panel regarding intellectualism, co-sponsored by the Chicago Public Library.

“People do need to bear in mind that Ayers is a professor, and was also appointed to the boards of these charities.”

You know it’s funny I can’t understand how you McCain supporters conveniently ignore all of the mess created over the last 8 years. Maybe you enjoy suffering but “my friends” the majority of us need a new way and if you have a problem with us not wanting to dig a deeper hell for ourselves that is just something you are going to have to deal with. No one is going to ignore the mess this country is in. I’d rather a so-called “socialist” over a hell bating “rich only” club racist group of idiots any day. And for the poor people supporting this group I have no idea when you are going to wake up and realize that it is not a race issue in this country it is a class issue and if you don’t have the money you are not a part of the club. For the love of God, your skin color no longer gets you over unless you are green with 100 dollar bill stamped all over you! We are tired of suffering at the hands of these lunatics making this land inhabitable! Now maybe you need something to complain about and like to live on the streets scractching for food wishing they didn’t steal your retirement money but that is your business and I would like for you to keep it to yourself. We are not going to hell with you!
Obama/Bided 08-16!!!!!

The Republican veep nominee
is a secessionist. Her
husband is also committed
to making Alaska a foreign
country. It’s disgusting
to see people like them.
Both should be in prison for
life.

Woody: “See, this isn’t a matter of guilt by association with Obama and Ayers. It’s a matter of guilt by PARTICIPATION. An entirely different matter.”
It depends on the nature of the participation. You participated with socialists and communists, not directly, but simply by virtue of working at the same facility as them. That doesn’t make you a commie, obviously. It depends entirely on the nature of the participation.
“Again, he tries to make a moral equivalence between domestic terrorism, defined as creating terror among the populace by exploding bombs in public places, and American action in the Viet Nam war. It’s insane in my opinion but apparently you’re ready to sign up for that.”
Actually, I disagree with it personally, but that doesn’t mean I think it’s insane. There is a lot of substance to such an argument. The point I’m making is simply that this is a complex issue.
“That’s what makes this country great, as well as the right to pair up with such people for six or seven years on “education reform”.”
And here we get to the heart of the matter. You have to look at the whole picture. You say ‘such people’, well, who else was on the board? What do the records show?
e.g. Arnold Weber, member of the Nixon administration, and recent donor to the McCain campaign, was on the board of the CAC with Obama.
How does that figure into your equation? Does Weber share Ayers beliefs too? Or is Obama a closet republican?

Aengil says,
“It depends on the nature of the participation.”
I couldn’t agree more. unfortunately I and the rest of the world are at a disadvantage because the details of the Obama-Ayers relationship are fuzzy. I’ll concede that point. But why are they fuzzy? Due to a lack of public documentation, Ayers refusing to talk and Obama changing his story from “a guy in my neighborhood” to “I assumed he had been rehabilitated”. My, how the story has morphed.
Ayers was the money man, Obama was his chairman, correct? Was not Obama personally selected by Ayers? That’s a pretty tight relationship at minimum. There are zero parallels to anyone else working on the board at the time. Even more spurious are claims that anyone who works at the same place as a socialist, etc., is guilty by participation. That’s pretty weak.
“The point I’m making is simply that this is a complex issue.”
Not to me. That’s the big difference here. There were thousands of Viet Nam war protesters and only a few who chose to bomb their own people and facilities. Ayers was a delusional, self-righteous ideologue, son of a wealthy and influential Chicago businessman who took it upon himself to terrorize the populace. What is so complex? Many, many people acted out to the point where they made a difference in national policy but did not go to his extremes.

I just have this to say about associations with anyone you work with.
Any of you here, do you know what your boss does after work, or your fellow workers?
How do any of you know who or what you are associating with?
How many of you even knew the name Ayers until now?
Believe me, if that man was still a danger to anyone, would the feds allow him to be where he is now?
McCain was associated with Ayers as well through the founder Anningberg(sorry not right spelling)…
It is all smoke and mirrors.
Obama/Biden ’08

Ayers was never “locked up” or convincted of any crime, unlike Mr. Keating.

Barack Hussein Obama “ASSUMES”… another bone head dicision..we dont need this man as our President…wake up USA!

Rehabilitated! ROFLMAO!
While Obama and Ayers were serving together on the Woods Fund, Ayers made his infamous, “I don’t regret setting bombs, I feel we didn’t do enough” comment published on 9/11.
Contrary to a meme being pushed by interested parties, the Weather Underground killed innocent people.
Brian V. McDonnell an officer with the San Francisco Police, was ripped apart by shrapnel Feb 16, 1970. He succumbed to his injuries two days later. Officer Robert Fogarty was permanently injured in the same blast. FBI mole Larry Grathwohl says Bill Ayers built the bomb, and that Bernadine Dohrn placed it on the station window ledge. Nyack, NY Police Officer Waverly Brown and Sergeant Ed O’Grady, along with Brinks guard Peter Paige, were killed in an armored car robbery that was a joint operation between the Weather Underground and elements of the Black Liberation Army in 1981.

“Was not Obama personally selected by Ayers?”
Open to question. “In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment.” – NYT.
Those several people might all be lying of course, or the NYT might be misreporting, but there’s no evidence that Ayers actually did appoint Obama, only speculation that he ‘must have’.

Forty years pass. Ayers is teaching at the same university as you.He’s on several of the same commities as you. He’s a productive member of society.I would assume he was rehabilitated too. Nobody talked about him, cared about him, and half of America didn’t know about him.He didn’t threaten you, obviously wasn’t a problem for all the students and their parents. So what’s the big deal now? Dose John McCain want nothing to do with the Vietnamese? No one cares about Ayers. What happened to all the good Christians out there that believe in forgiveness? Oh ya, their standing at McCain rallies shouting racial slurs and kill him.

All the Obama Haters. Look at your girl Palin. She is guilty of abuse of power. So really can’t be trusty.
Look like the Mavericks like breaking rules.