Obama Introduction Snafu at Al Smith Dinner

Maybee if Joe was actually a licensed plumber…
Maybe if his family is not all over the internet for contributing heavily to republican PAC’s…
Maybe if his cousin wasn’t a part of Keating 5…
Maybe if McCain didn’t have things so well rehearsed to bring up “Joe Wurzelbacher” – so well rehearsed, in the first minutes of the debate…
Maybe if Joe’s business wasn’t going to make exactly $250,000 – the threshold in Obama’s tax plan…
Maybe if Joe was the type to pay his property taxes…
Maybe we’d belive he wasn’t a plant.
But he is.

joe plumber was used by mccain as a political football. just like trig. mccain thrives on props and gimmicks, not ideas.
THAT’s what we learned.

Obama and McCain were HILARIOUS!

Average Joe – raising tax rate from 36% to 39% on the richest people is hardly Marxism.
Unless you think it’s right to start trillion dollar wars and not pay for them, then why don’t you tell us who should have their taxes raised to cover the trillion dollar war:
The rich?
The middle class?
The poor?
Our children and their children?
Paying for what we spend is not Marxism, my friend, it is Patriotism.

Where is Sarah? Oh yeah, hiding. thats right, the liberal media might ask her a tough question.
Yeah good choice. hide her.
Obama 08

The repubs are having to play defense in VIRGINIA! GEORGIA! COLORADO! MISSOURI!
Are you kidding me? This thing is OVER.
They pulled out of Wisconsin and NH today. Pennsylvania is next.

MISSING IN THIS DEBATE is the fact the Joe Not-really-a-plumber is against ALL forms of progressive taxation.
HAS JOHN MCCAIN proposed a flat tax ???
No? Wouldn’t you agree that this leaves McCain’s message a little, ur, Erratic?
McCain’s own program endorsed progressive taxes.
But according to Joe Not-really-a-plumber, this makes John McCain a socialist!

Though totally bummed out if the Big-O wins the White House… it will mean at least one positive outcome – the death of Liberal White Guilt.
No longer will the rest of America be held hostage by the likes of Sharpton or Jackson who have beat the rest of us with the club called white favoritism… if anything Obama is getting a pass because of the color of his skin rather than his accomplishments.
If the American people wake up on November 4, they will realize that America can ill afford an affirmative action president and vote McCain.
Wake up America – this is not American Idol!

At least the spending will be done in this country and not a country that has more money than the grapes an Italian gets harvesting his grape crop. Come on people ya all are smarter than dirt i hope taxes have to go up take a good look at the road you travel, that bridge the school bus crosses every day with your children in it,air port runways and security where is the dollars going to come from are you going to volunteer your services to fix that pothole that a volkswagen could fill or fix that steel beam holding up that bridge are you going to hold that wand over a body getting ready to fly somewhere. I would rather see tax and spend here than over there and you know where the over there is.

The Republicans are correct. Over the last 30 years the largest redistribtuion of wealth has taken place in world history. The GOP has taken it from the poor and middle classes and redistributed it to the top 1%. PROOF:
According to former Clinton Treasury Secretary Larry Summers (and current Harvard Professor), the shift of income inequality over the last quarter century simply dwarfs the amount of money being discussed in partisan debates over wealth redistribution — and represents a serious crisis of legitimacy for society.
The former secretary’s frank evaluation of the effects of a generation-long transfer of wealth to the top one percent was notable in the political realm, since it came during a week in which Barack Obama’s discussion with “Joe the Plumber” gave the issue of wealth redistribution a higher profile. In the final presidential debate, John McCain repeatedly chided Obama for his casual remark to Joe about intending to “spread the wealth around.” But if Summers’s analysis is correct, the scope of any government redistribution that has been proposed will be nowhere near as impactful as the natural swing of fortunes to the rich over the course of the last 30 years.
Summers, who is also an economic adviser to Obama and has been suggested as a potential future Treasury Secretary, made his remarks at a conference hosted by the Harvard Business School on Tuesday.
He asked attendees to compare the respective shares of wealth commanded by different classes of earners in 1979 to the contemporary figures.
In the last 29 years, Summers said, “you’ll find that the share of income going from 80 to 99th percentiles has stayed the same. And those in top one percent have gained about $600 billion. Those in bottom 80 percent have lost about $600 billion.”
Summers then calculated that this overall transfer of wealth averaged out to an additional $500,000 per year in earnings for those in the top one percent, and an $8,000 loss every year for those in the bottom 80 percent.
“If the bottom 80 percent had kept pace and earned that $8,000 … their income growth would have been twice as high over the last generation as what we in fact observed. Think about this number: $600 billion a year. It is immense compared to any discussion of changing the tax system here or there,” Summers added.
Later during his speech, titled “The Future of Market Capitalism,” Summers suggested that the immensity of such a growth in income inequality should supersede the normal partisan debate over redistribution of wealth via the tax code — unsurprisingly, a hot topic in this election season. “Whatever your broad approach to public policy,” Summers said, “I would suggest to you this [inequality] represents a critical problem of legitimacy.”

when stupid maverick mccain and his lame campaign finally figure out the truth obama will sink like stone.
There would be no financial crisis if you still needed good credit and 20% down to buy a house.
Also if we had robust oil and gas production the oil spike wouldn’t have caused so much pain.
The dems and obama and the cra and carter and clinton and johnson and dodd and frank caused this crisis.
Why woyld we let liberal big govt dems wreak this economy again.
“The failed bush policies”. Is a myth… When truth be told bye bye obama and all you marxist traitors

Barack Hussein Obama II for president!

If anyone is paying attention…Joe the Plumber has not said anything all that positive about McCain…he just has nothing good to say about “The One”. My guess is that he’ll be voting 3rd party, because even McCain isn’t conservative enough for him. But hey, Obots…don’t let that stop you from trashing him….

I find it very interesting that the lib media and Obama’s supporters put more time into trying to ruin a private citizen named Joe the Plumber in one day than into searching for answers to Obama’s very mysterious life for over a year now.

We are spending all of our energy and money on bailing out all of these companies . It is just wrong. This week alone our family received 4 unsolicited credit card offers including one for a daughter that does not have a job. I do not think any lessons will be earned after we spend our money.
Another interested fact you need to consider is the price of tickets for the Super Bowl in Tampa next year. 17,000 tickets will sold at a $1,000 each another 53,000 at $800 each. Who buys these tickets? Big business does for entertaining customers and employees. What about dollars spent on advertising for the Super Bowl. This type of behavior does nothing for spreading the wealth except more upward.
Congress needs to get a handle around this type of expense now.

People.. learn how to chill a bit. The speeches at the dinner were hilarious. Nice to see the lighter side of both candidates.
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so true.. seeing them make fun of themselves restores my faith somewhat in our country. Only in America would this have happened.
A night off. Some fun… then a no holds bar race to the finish. As it should be.

I don’t even know any American that if they earned over $250,000, they would have a problem paying a 3% higher tax rate on the amount that is above the first 250,000.
What kind of people are these, that don’t want to invest in or support their country?

The following is an article from the July 7, 2008, issue #27 from “The American Free Press” Newspaper, an article by Assistant editor, Pat Shannon.
“It now appears that Barack Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the office of president. John McCain’s eligibility was established in 1964, when courts ruled Sen. Barry Goldwater was eligible although he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, not a state. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone when it was a U.S. territory.
And, even as the controlled media continues to ignore the ineligibility of Obama, it will not go away. While few doubt that the Democrats will manage to pull off his nomination, all remain poised to view the legal performance.
The first hurdle will be having Obama produce his birth certificate, which so far he has refused to do, and prove that he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, as he has always claimed. There is speculation that his American mother may have brought him to Honolulu shortly after his birth in Kenya, but no proof of that has been shown.
According to the law on the books at the time of Obama’s birth, the office of president requires that a candidate be a natural citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents. Since he was not, should it be proven that Obama was not born in Hawaii, as claimed, he is ineligible without further debate. But assuring that he was born there, he has another problem.
According to a legal researcher who has contacted the AFP, U.S. law very clearly states: “If only one parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for a minimum of 10 years, five of which must be after the age of 16.” And therein lies Obama’s new problem.
Barack Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen.
Interestingly, there isn’t much paperwork on the marriage of Obama’s parents, and this has a few researchers speculating that it never took place at all. On page 27 of “Obama: From Promise to Power”, David Mendell writes: “Obama later confessed that he never searched for the government documents on the marriage, although Madelyn (Obama’s maternal grandmother) insisted they were legally married.” He also notes that Obama’s father apparently was not legally divorced from his first wife back in Kenya at the time, a point of contention that ultimately led to their separation. This also would suggest that there may never have been any legal marriage by Obama’s parents at all, but the Constitution does not ban an illegitimate child from the White House, as long as he was born inside the U.S.
Obama’s mother was born in Kansas and was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she satisfied the citizen requirement for 10 years, she was not a citizen for at least five years prior to Obama’s birth. In essence, the mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, two years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama was already three years old at the time his mother turned 21.
Technically, Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen, but that, of course, would disqualify him from holding the office of president If the allegations are accurate, America could install in January of 2009 a new president who is not even a U.S. citizen, neither born nor naturalized.
It should be demanded that Obama produce his 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.
If Barrack Obama cannot satisfactorily do so, he should be deemed immediately ineligible to hold the office of president.

Wow, you Obama haters. Why don’t you stop talking about Ayers and Wright long enough to say these names of Mccain and Palin “pals” (you know, the ones the so-called ‘liberal media’ won’t say one word about):
The Alaska Independence Party
Gordon Liddy
The US Council on World Freedom
just to name a very few.
Enough with the double standard!! We’ve had enough hypocrisy!!

Martin Nesbitt, the treasurer of Obama’s campaign, has tax liens. So do his companies.
You’d think that matters more than the tax liens of Joe the Plumber, wouldn’t you? But good luck finding a Big Media story about Nesbitt’s liens.
http://webofdeception.com/obama.html#nesbitt

Joe the plumber is just like all the social issues Republicans that vote against their own economic issues because they are convinced that the very rich are really better and smarter than they are, and deserve all the big tax breaks they get. Those of us who think that everyone is equal and deserve equal opportunities in this country vote for our own financial self interest because we know we work just as hard – probably harder – than the 1% of the very rich who get the Bush/McCain tax breaks. Joe the plumber turned out to be a big liar – owes past due taxes and medical judgments that would keep him from getting any kind of loan to buy any business – plus he doesn’t even have a license – something that is required in Ohio to do plumbing work! What a tool. Joe the Plumber showed his true colors and leanings when he told Katie Couris that he had Obama “tap dancing faster than Sammy Davis Jr.” It is not hard to see what really motivates this guy to be a McCain stooge.

By “spreading the wealth around” Obama meant that hard working middle class people should get a bigger tax break than the 1% of the very richest American’s (like corporate CEO’s who have ripped off other people). Everyone posting here knows exactly what Obama meant, but they want to play stupid because that is what Republicans do.

Ok, this article was not about “joe” the plumber, but let’s be clear about one thing. Go and re-watch the debate where McCain brings him up. It was so obvious that McCain had stayed up all night before constructing this “clever” little argument. I know both candidates are horrible at directly answering questions, but McCain and obviously Palin are downright atrocious and unable to think on their feet. Their arguments are completely based on and filled with generalities and dumbed-down expressions that no one is falling for anymore.
What is wrong, truly, with a so-called “elitist” as our President? Why wouldn’t you want someone who understands issues and has a lot of intelligence running our country? Haven’t we learned our lesson in electing an average guy for the last 8 years? Sure, McCain and Pain are “real” and “identifiable” and have “character”, but so do a lot of friends of mine, and I sure as heck don’t want them sitting in the Oval office either.

We all should fear Obama – who in the debate stated the function of the Supreme court was to deliver “fairness and justice” to the american people. And that our values should be determined by popular vote. As a lawyer, he should remember from consistutional law class that the function of the supreme court is to interpret our constition – NOT to rewrite it. Our individual freedoms are guaranteed by the constitution. If the ‘poplar vote’ determines our values or – someone help us – ‘fairness and justice’ – we are should be afraid. Remember what happened in Rawanda – maybe our society won’t split on ‘ethnic’ lines, but Obama is laying the groundwork for a split on economic lines. If the great “spreading of the wealth” occurs: I will no longer work full time, since I do this primarily to provide health care benefits to myself and family. Since it will be ‘free’ to me, I won’t need to work 40hrs/week. Hmm – that translates into less income and less taxes. Can you see/feel the downward spiral? I will feel ‘entitled’ to the best healthcare and complain when my family member has to wait 3 months for an MRI – that’s a routine wait in Canada.
I saw Obama speak in Columbus – and wanted to believe. He is an amazing speaker, but he is promoting socialism and the diluting of our constitution. I have always been a supporter of a women’s right to choose – but the born alive issue is real. I’m rethinking everything.

I personally don’t think Obama roasted McCain. It was like trying to watch Frankenstein sing kareoke to some britney spears song. It just didnt work out too well at the begenning.
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5817/obamafrankyln0.jpg
If you watch it again in a different light, you can see him saying one of his jokes and than looking around with begging eyes, just asking people to have the heart and laugh :-D
Bravo Barack … atleast we know if you don’t make president, you will have a job lined up on comedy central, either that or the sci-fi channel when they remake the munsters.