By Julia Hoppock

Oct 14, 2008 3:35pm

Obama on ACORN Controversy: “A Distraction… We Don’t Need ACORN’s Help”

On Tuesday afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., made a statement about the latest economic developments and took questions from the reporters outside his hotel, the Maumee Bay Resort and Conference Center in Oregon, OH, not far from Toledo.

"Obviously the Treasury Department announced some refinements to the rescue package," Obama said. "I think the idea of injecting capital directly into banks is a good one, it gives taxpayers a better chance of getting their money out potentially, it also gives the Treasury some more direct mechanisms to monitor and apply some ground rules to participating banks.

"I am concerned that the way that they structure this new mechanism that we are cracking down on excessive CEO pay," said the Democratic presidential nominee, "that, I think, should be part of the deal. And I’m also concerned that taxpayer shares – that they are purchasing or they are receiving as  consequence of this injection of equity is a good deal for tax payers. I think that if tax payers are investing in Goldman Sachs, they shouldn’t get a worse deal than when Warren Buffet invests in Goldman Sachs.

"I know there has also been some talk about providing guarantees to bank loans, to encourage the credit market from moving forward," said Obama. "Again, I think this could potentially be promising as a way of freeing up credit so that small business and individuals around the country can get car loans can get business loans for payroll and so forth. But it is very important that there are some regulatory requirements ultimately that go with these injections of cash. If we’re just giving them money but we’re not making sure that they are curbing some of the excessive risks that got us into the mess in the first place, then we are just continuing the same philosophy that has failed the American people so badly.

"So I’m going to look at details of the plan, I have had already a discussion with Secretary (Hank) Paulson about it before he announced it," concluded the lanky Illinoisan. "I want to see on paper how they are putting this thing together. And I continue to emphasize that this is just one phase of a rescue package that’s needed because we still need a rescue package for the middle class. And the proposals I’ve put forward to create jobs, to make sure that families are able to ride though these difficult times, to help homeowners those are all issues that await action by congress and if we don’t get it don’t in the lame duck session then they’re going to be some of my top priorities when I am president."

Obama then took questions from the media.

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ABC News noted that "Senator McCain today said that ‘there has been voter fraud going on in the battleground states. ACORN is tampering with Americans’ most precious right; there has to be a full and complete investigation.’  And he also said that you need to disclose your full relationship with ACORN. I’m wondering if you have any reaction to the reports of voter fraud and also to Sen. McCain’s charge?"

Obama replied: "first of all, my relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward.  It’s probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the US Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the ‘Motor Voter’ law,  to make sure that people could go to DMV’s and drivers’ license facilities to get registered.. It wasn’t being implemented. That was my relationship and is my relationship to ACORN.

"There is an ACORN organization in Chicago," Obama continued. "They have been active. As an elected official, I’ve had interactions with them. But they are not advising our campaign. We’ve got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don’t need ACORN’s help.

“My understanding in terms of the voter fraud, because having run a voter registration drive, I know how problems arise, this is typically a situation where ACORN probably paid people to get registrations and these folks, not wanting to actually register people because that’s actually hard work, just went into a phone book or made up names and submitted false registrations to get paid," Obama said. "So there’s been fraud perpetrated probably on ACORN if they paid these individuals and they actually didn’t do registrations.”

"But this isn’t a situation where there’s actually people who are going to try to vote ’cause these are phony names," Obama said. "And, it’s doubtful (Dallas Cowboys quarterback) Tony Romo (whose name has been fraudulently submitted) is gonna show up in Ohio to vote. So this is another one of these distractions that gets stirred up in the course of a campaign.

"But what I want to make sure of, is that this is not used as an excuse for the kind of voter suppression strategies and tactics that we’ve seen in the past. Let’s just make sure everybody is voting, everybody’s registered.  Let’s make sure that everybody’s doing it in a lawful way."

Another reporter asked Obama’s reactions to the economic policy proposals put forward by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., today, in particular his proposal to significantly reduce long-term capital gains taxes so as to spur investment.

"Well you know I haven’t reviewed all the details yet," Obama said. “You know, there are some ideas that Sen. McCain has put forward in the last couple of weeks that are very bad ideas. The idea of, for example, of purchasing homes at full prices from banks so that banks have no losses and taxpayers automatically have losses, that’s a bad idea and I think its been panned by democrats and republicans.

"He’s had some good ideas," Obama continued. "I think the idea of making sure that people aren’t forced to sell their 401(k) or IRA accounts at the age of 70 when the market is in the tank, I think that makes sense and in fact I acknowledged that in my speech yesterday.

"I haven’t looked at all the details of his capital gains proposal. I will tell you that  nobody one really has capital gains right now – so if the idea is the cut capital gains taxes, when I don’t know anybody, even the smartest investors who right now are going to be experiencing a lot of capital gains. That probably is not going to be particularly useful in solving the financial crisis. But I will review the plan and I’m sure that Sen. McCain will have more to say about it tomorrow."

– Jake Tapper, Andy Fies and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

McCain should be more concerned about both his and Palin’s ties to questioanble organizations and individuals.
Rick Sanchez just reported on the ties between the Palin’s and the AIP.
It was shocking to hear the AIP’s very hateful remarks concerning the American government…certainly smacks of domestic terrorist ideology!!
Given the days and days of coverage the media reported on Rev. Wrights hateful remarks, one assumes you will be reporting on the AIP’s ideology and Palins ties to it on as well?? Sanchez reported that Palin attended their 2008 convention as well as showed her televised address to their convention. The voters have a right to hear more coverage of this.

Posted by: Dee | October 14, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

It sounds to me like the ACORN is cracked!

Posted by: Deep Release | October 14, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

EVERYTHING that Obama doesn’t want to talk about, but is guilty of, is “distraction”!!!
Anytime Ayers was brought up, he would say it’s a distraction! Well, you big fool, your corrupt and dangerous associations are a distraction to America’s safety and security!
Move along folks, nothing to see here….
He is also lying. He not just represented them , but he also was a trainer of their thug tactics back in his “community orgnizer” days. His campaign also donated 800K to ACORN.
Obama is knee deep in ACORN dirt.
But, that’s a distraction, and it’s also racist to say anything bad about Obama. !!!!
Oh, by the way, Mr. Obama, where is your birth certificate? why are you wasting legal resources “delaying” the Berg case, when you can just show it and get it over with? Sorry, was that a distraction too?
Obama is a criminal. Corrupt trash. the proof is there.

Posted by: liberati | October 14, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

So why did Obama give 800G to ACORN?

Posted by: Jr | October 14, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

JR – Excellant question.
Sarah – Are you sure he wasn’t hired to give Sarah P a few pointers. He sounds more her style.

Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | October 14, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.
The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein’s government.

Posted by: OCTOBER SURPRISE | October 14, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

I hope Obama’s explanation satisfies the people that want to throw ACORN around without rhyme or reason. Besides, who cares anyway. Most peoples minds are made up anyway about who to vote for. Mail-in votes are already happening in quite a few states. I mailed mine in already.

Posted by: LF | October 14, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Obama is right, of course. Voter fraud doesn’t hurt anyone but the person doing it. Their vote won’t count. Let’s not get ridiculous and think these phony signatures are going to get past the election officials on voting day. Both Republicans and Democrats are at the polls, overseeing the elections and checking for irregularities. So, if anyone is attempting to defraud the process, it’s the fraud who will get his/her vote discounted. And rightly so.

Posted by: geecee | October 14, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Breaking just now:
McCains transition chief aided Suddam Hussein
Huffington Post has just released this

Posted by: lmg | October 14, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

well Cnn is now reporting on Aig seems the Palins have been Palling around with People who hate america you think maybe thats why she brought up Ayers to Disract The Palins aig connection these people do hate America!

Posted by: angie | October 14, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

barack is stupid.

Posted by: Warren | October 14, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

First he says he was only 8 when Ayers was accused of booming. And he had no other ties with Ayers, which have been proven wrong. He was on committees with him, even the ACORN committee. Now he has nothing to do with ACORN for over 13 years. How stupid does he really think we are. Oh, he doesn’t know his cambaign gave ACORN $800,000.00. So he didn’t write the check. Another guilt by associated. What good is he really associated with. He has changed his economic plan two times now and is now
saying he has to tweak it. What did the Plumber in OHIO say to OBAMA. Thanks but no thanks.

Posted by: june | October 14, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Perhaps fake Tony Romo already voted in Ohio like that guy they nailed. Perhaps fake Tony Romo will vote or voted by absentee ballot.

Posted by: geevill | October 14, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Breaking:
CNN reporting on Palins ties with the AIP

Posted by: lmg | October 14, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Oh poor misguided Barack, they have already made arrests in Ohio of phoney voters trying to vote. Someone should really update him, isn’t that what they pay the staff for?

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 14, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Thank you Mr. President

Posted by: votor | October 14, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Obama is still trying to claim that his only connection to ACORN is that he represented them in the Motor Voter lawsuit?
It is fact that he volunteered as a trainer for ACORN, that he and Ayers funneled millions to ACORN through the Annenberg Challenge, and that he invited ACORN to help shape his White House agenda.
How can he still stand there and lie?
Even that is a stretch because he represented ACORN in many lawsuits.

Posted by: SandyB | October 14, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

obama gave 800 gold to acorn

Posted by: Bhrandon | October 14, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

“CNN reporting on Palins ties with the AIP”
Ed Rollins and Roland Martin?

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Dee, I see you had your koolaid….

Posted by: me | October 14, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

New buzz word for this corrupt piece of trash!
OBAMACORN
OBAMACORN
OBAMACORN
LOL!

Posted by: liberati | October 14, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

That’s it? That’s the media questioning Obama? Wow. Let’s make it as easy as possible…my god this is insane…

Posted by: what?? | October 14, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Obama is hiding the fact that his current presidential campaign gave Acorn more than $800,000. Lying again.

Posted by: tina | October 14, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

transparancy
will Palin or McCain answer regular reporters questions or head over to pre-approved Hannity questions/

Posted by: watching | October 14, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

If he doesn’t need Acorn’s help, why did his campaign pay Acorn $800,000 for get-out-the-vote efforts, as reported on the WSJ’s editorial page this morning?

Posted by: jblog | October 14, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

I figured some right winger would come with that “but he gave them 800 thousand dollars”; ummm yes, in the Primary race.
As Obama so gracefully put it, we don’t need Acorn’s help. Stop making excuses before the results have even come in.

Posted by: PoliticsAsUsual | October 14, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

“But this isn’t a situation where there’s actually people who are going to try to vote ’cause these are phony names,” Obama said. “And, it’s doubtful (Dallas Cowboys quarterback) Tony Romo (whose name has been fraudulently submitted) is gonna show up in Ohio to vote. So this is another one of these distractions that gets stirred up in the course of a campaign.
EXACTLY! Geeze… I can’t beleive the MSM isn’t smart enough to figure that out for themselves!

Posted by: Common Sense | October 14, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Why is it whenever Obama tells his side of the story, all the right-wing nut jobs (like McCain and Palin for example) keep saying “There is more to this!”. He’s telling you he worked for them and even with them. They are not his advisors. Neither is Ayers.
This is NOW people…not then! Neither ACORN or Ayers has any infulence on Obama.
Talk to me about Palin’s lying about a report which clearly shows she is guilty of an ethics violation. Talk to me about McCain saying one day he’s got an economic plan, then the next he won’t show it to anyone, then THE NEXT DAY he comes out with one since Obama did.
How many times do we have to say it…we don’t care about Ayers or ACORN!

Posted by: Greg in MN | October 14, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

There pictures of Obama with ACORN…what a joke…

Posted by: the end | October 14, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Well that settles it…sure he didn’t address the 800 or so thousand his campaign paid an ACORN front group to canvass voters on his behalf or his 2007 pro-ACORN comments at a community organizers conference (no doubt filmed by a racist GOP operative), but I think he covered most of the main points. Phew…we don’t need to bring that up again. Now lets have another report on how Governor Palin “abused her power” by allowing her dastardly husband to lobby for the firing of a “good” cop (who tazered his ten year old step-son, consumed alcohol in his patrol car, abused his wife, made death threats against his father-in-law and broke at least three state laws according to the Grimes report) or maybe we can have another insightful blog post analyzing the McCain camp’s latest tactics and their racial implications.

Posted by: israelhands | October 14, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

CNN just exposed Sarah and Todd Palin’s connection to the Alaskan Independence Party. It’s over for McCain/Palin….couldn’t happen to a nicer couple

Posted by: Clint | October 14, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

This is why the McCain campaign and by extension the GOP, are ethically bankrupt and will be losing elections across the country. They have nothing to constructive to offer, so they take oblique and random asociations and attempt to turn them into something they are not by opaque associations. Obama is not a terrorist nor is he part of ACORN. But the McCain campaign and the GOP flunkies keeps whacking the mole without producing anything but cheap enuendo. And the majority of American people are seeing this as transparent BS and are sick of it. Hence, the GOP better get ready to be put into a position of non-factors in government after these elections are complete. And, they have only themselves to blame for it.

Posted by: Jay | October 14, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Obama’s previous work with voter registration (when he did community service) is that he tries to submit a lot of new voter registration forms on the last day in order to flood the city offices, and there is no time to check validity. It is a loophole that he has exploited in the past to disrupt an Illinois election, which he won as a result.
All voter fraud should be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent. Obama’s flip remark that it isn’t hurting anyone is ridiculous, and unpatriotic, and I’m surprised the reporters didn’t call him on it. I hope McCain catches this one.

Posted by: tina | October 14, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

“Perhaps fake Tony Romo already voted in Ohio like that guy they nailed. Perhaps fake Tony Romo will vote or voted by absentee ballot.”
Hmmm..I wonder which candidate he voted for?

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Obama (D-ACORN) would like us to believe there are “other issues,” really?
Are there more important issues than the right to vote without voter fraud? No, but Obama (D-ACORN) would like us to think so.
Say, isn’t this the same jive move Obama (D-ACORN) first made with the ravin’ Rev. Wright? Ayers? Why, yes, it is.
And, say, Obama (D-ACORN), since you paid $850,000.00 to ACORN to “get out the vote,” do you no longer need them to get out the vote or have they exhausted Mickey Mouse, the Dallas Cowboys in Nevada, etc.? Your training classes already paying you back hey.

Posted by: Captain America | October 14, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

I love how EVERYTIME Obambi gets questioned about anything – the it’s just a distraction. The the media circles the wagons and protects him, finds out something about McCain to talk baout and then it is all forgotten. It’s the same thing over and over. Let’s see, plagurizing speeches, Tony Rezko. Rev Wright, Ayers, ACORN vote fraud, Lapel pin, you name it – he is truely the Teflon Candidate – the press will not let anythign stick. Don’t you get it folks. The media ar going to make this happen anyway they can. The press is as complicite in this as the Iraq war and as corrupt as wall street!

Posted by: mots | October 14, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

I don’t really care about these workers who submitted fraudulent registration forms. They should be fired and receive a reduction in pay. And from what I read, it was ACORN who reported these fraudulent forms, as required by law. This is just an attempt to further demonize Obama.
What worries me more is people who cannot vote at all because their names have been purged from the voter rolls, as has been tried or already accomplished in the states of Ohio, Michigan, Florida and Wisconsin.

Posted by: cincyr | October 14, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

“Are there more important issues than the right to vote without voter fraud? No, but Obama (D-ACORN) would like us to think so.”
That’s just how they do things in Chicago.

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

“And from what I read, it was ACORN who reported these fraudulent forms, as required by law. This is just an attempt to further demonize Obama.”
So you’re not worried about the guy they caught committing voter fraud? Probably an isolated incident.

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

JESSE JACKSON: Under Obama ‘decades of putting Israel’s interests first’ would end…
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Posted by: sallie | October 14, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Oh but apparently Obama thought they DID need ACORNs help when he threw $832,000 their way.
As reported on MSNBC moments ago: “Obama and two other lawyers in 1995 represented ACORN in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois to make voter registration easier. During this year’s primary, Obama hired a firm with ties to the group for a massive get-out-the-vote effort.
Obama told reporters on Tuesday that ACORN was not advising his campaign on voter registration.” HAHA!! HE ‘did not have sex’ with that woman either!! HE did not inhale either!! Oh my God… what an insult to American’s intelligence! He is playing his followers for complete fools!!

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

McCainites, WHEN ARE YOUR CANDIDATES GOING TO TALK STRAIGHT TO THE PRESS???
Come on, people. Say what you want about Obama, but at least he is answering questions. You see him ducking? You may not like his answers, but HE’S OUT THERE.
Where are McCain and Palin? Who is more likely to have a LOT to hide (about policies and issues in particular — I don’t give a damn about personal stuff or stuff that happened over a decade ago)? Why won’t the Republican candidates do this kind of spontaneous press conference?
And why don’t you even CARE about that? The press DID ask Obama about his ACORN stuff — you folks claimed they wouldn’t. But the press has not asked much at all about AIP or the witch doctor or even troopergate (and Mr. Palin’s “unelected governance”).
It makes me wonder if you folks really believe what you state — because it’s pretty irrational, if you ask me.

Posted by: pasc | October 14, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Isn’t it amazing that so many on the right ASSUME that every person that ACORN registers for voting are registering as DEMOCRATS and will vote as DEMOCRATS? Hello folks, McCain himself praised ACORN for its efforts in Arizona. Why? Because they registered so many REPUBLICANS. Or did you miss that?

Posted by: Jay | October 14, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

I do not see why Biden said in Democratic conference convention that his wife passed away in a car accident because the trucker that hit her was drunk , had “drunk wine ,instead of eating lunch ” and that “joke” got approved by the democratic mass there. However, Where is his American Integrity in order for him to apply for a high office ? He just supposed that he could get away with the Dead because the Dead could not talk for themselves . But God and the Dead are omnipotent . The trucker’s daughter watched the Democratic convention and appealed that to Inside Edition and they investigated the files way back when in 1970′s and it turned out that the trucker was not drunk at all ! PLEASE REMEMBER TO VOTE FOR THE NOBLER ONES, LESS EVIL ONES OF THESE PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT CANDIDATES. THANKS
And Sarah Palin also mentioned in the debate that Biden used to say the Obama is Not ready to be a commander-in-chief . And Biden did say bad jokes about Obama ,way back when that cost him an apology to Obama . And now he is submissive to Obama and defends Obama ferociously !
Obama and Biden boasted about REAL change , But we could not see any OUTLINE, PLANS of their REAL CHANGE AT ALL . All they said was just REal change , real change .
Based on their history of promises , of their back-and-forth decisions on major issues , on the integrity of the men that Biden and Obama … should it be that what you see is what you get ? ! And please remember that regardless of who the president of USA is , a president and a vice president have a whole cabinet , congress and senate to work with them in making decision . Therefore ,Please vote for McCain and Palin . Thanks
DEAR MEDIA , WE ARE SO DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU DISTORED THE STORIES IN FAVOR OF OBAMA. WHERE IS YOUR AMERICAN INTEGRITY ? YOU TRIED TO INFLUENCE NON-INFORMED PEOPLE IN FAVOR FOR OBAMA . PLEASE REMEMBER OBAMA’S RACE TO BE CONGRESSMAN WAY BACK WHEN .PLEASE INVESTIGATE ABOUT THE VOTE FRAUD . WE WONDER WHAT TIM RUSSERT WOULD SAY IF HE WAS STILL ALIVE ? WHERE IS ALL AMERICAN INTEGRITY THESE DAYS ?

We must pray as if everything depended on God and work as if everything depended upon us.
St. Ignatius of Loyola

Posted by: godblessed | October 14, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

another distraction from the GOP. yawn.

Posted by: distractions | October 14, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Has anyone checked out the hired truck scandal of mayor daley who is backing obama. Organized crime family members right in Chicago City hall. Go figure!The mob wiseguys of the 26th street crew” ( google this title and see what comes up )sucked thirty-five million out of the forty million of wasted taxpayer monies. the lame stream media will never tell the American People about this will they. Obama sits on the Committee of Homeland Security with the mandate to investigate organized crime. What has he investigated in this scandal published and found on the Chicago Sun-Times website.

Posted by: chris | October 14, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Gee, another coincidence for poor little Barack. It was a coicidence that Ayers “lived in the neighborhood”, “hosted my political coming out party in his home” etc., it is a coincidence that Rev. Wright gave radical sermons and awards to Farrakhan while poor little Barry sat in ignorance for 20 years, Pfleger is a coincidence, the sleazy dealings with Rezko are a coincidence, the Che Guevara banner hanging in his campaign HQ was a coincidence, the massive donations from Fannie and Freddie were a coincidence, now ACORN is a coincidence. Poor little Barack. maybe this little liar ought to just change his campaign theme from “hope and change” to “ignore the man behind the curtain”.

Posted by: MARKM | October 14, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

besides fox and drudge i have yet to hear of any real stories of voter fraud
other than bush win in 2000 when all these dead people voted in florida

Posted by: Bhrandon | October 14, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Obama represented ACORN as a Lawyer, he gave ACORN at least 800000 dollars from his campaign, he helped funnel millions of taxpayer money to them. BY the way ACORN did bnot bring it out, they were raided in Nevada, stopped in Indiana.
Obama is tied to them and if it was not for Obama they would not be as big as they are, now there is proof they are behind the Mortgage problems.
STOP making excuses people Obama is dangerous.
Read the letter he sent to his friends in Africa, to protest which caused thousand of Christians to be slaugtered.
ACORN is part of Community Organizers!!

Posted by: spock | October 14, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Today the community organizer does not need the community organization that trained him of the political feat his claim to fame. Obama is nothing more than a poverty pimp, he uses the COALITION of poverty pimps known as the ACLU,NAACP,LULAC and others with their lawyers, deep financial pockets of private donors yet they enjoy tax exemptions of everyone who disclose all thgeir donors. Obama is the great product.He can do no wrong and needs no one.

Posted by: Jesus Warrior | October 14, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

I think we’re missing what’s important here. Note Jake’s first sentence: “Obama…took questions from the reporters”.
Now remind me, when has Sarah Palin held a press conference since she became a vice presidential nominee?

Posted by: Pacific moderate | October 14, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

I would think that all Americans on both sides of the aisle would want this situation investigated to the fullest. Those that don’t are either hiding something or simply don’t care to get to the truth of it no matter what that truth is.

Posted by: Kathy | October 14, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Notice everything is a distraction to Obama!! when his lies are brought forth!!

Posted by: spock | October 14, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Every time Obama doesn’t like something or some type of question and/or criticism about him comes up, it’s a “distraction.” hmmmm
So far, the “distractions”:
1. Rev. Wright;
2. Michael Pfleger;
3. Tony Rezko and the money given to Obama’s campaign by him (and subsequently donated away after the story finally broke);
4. William Ayers – I know him, I don’t know him, he did this when I was 8 years old;
5. His waffling positions on gun control (it was “a staffer’s” fault);
6. His birth certificate/college records (they’re “not relevant”);
7. ACORN (he doesn’t need them, but his campaign paid $800,000 for “get out the vote” activities).
Look, if this guy had served in government for a more substantial time and had a concrete record we could look at and see, that could tell us who he really is, it would be one thing. However, when the most long-lasting thing “employment” on your resume consists of campaigning for yourself in various races, that just doesn’t do it for me.
We are in crisis mode here. I don’t agree with John McCain on everything, or Sarah Palin either, for that matter. However, I trust them a hell of a lot more than I do someone who constantly blames someone else, cries “but he/she did (fill in the blank)” like a little baby, who condones calling anyone who questions him a racist or a foul name and who calls legitimate questions about his judgment (which he, not anyone else, touted as his premier claim to the job as president) “distractions.”

Posted by: no thanks obama | October 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

quote: “I don’t really care about these workers who submitted fraudulent registration forms. They should be fired and receive a reduction in pay. And from what I read, it was ACORN who reported these fraudulent forms, as required by law. This is just an attempt to further demonize Obama.”
No, no… sorry. No one has to demonize Obama. He is doing a very good job of it on his own. He doesn’t give a hoot about voter registration fraud so long as he benefits. You know darn well he knew what was going on. He has very close ties with ACORN. How could he not know? And if he didn’t, he thinks he’s smart enough to be the president of the US??! Now he claims innocence because ACORN is not ADVISING his campaign. OMG. I can’t believe this guy is for real

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

34 u.s states have entertained secession proposals. secession is as american as apple pie and at the core of the american experience and its founding.
todd left aip over 5 yrs ago.
on the other hand obama left WRIGH’T church just a few months ago and only after he realized it was costing him votes.
rick sanchez is just reacting to his rabid obama supporters- by tossing you guys a bone to gnaw on.

Posted by: landsend | October 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

WE DON’T NEED ACORN’S HELP!
I love it. As a volunteer for Obama’s campaign, he said the absolute truth. We also can’t forget that when a person registers, they select their party. If an ACORN worker who’s incentive is based on the number of registrations they turn in, its likely (as evident) they will turn in fake registrations. IT’S YET ANOTHER DISTRACTION AND AMERICANS AREN’T BUYING IT! Now let’s talk about the GOP challenging voting rights for the folks facing foreclosure.

Posted by: Nik | October 14, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Jay – Please they found 40000 registeristrations that ACORN pushed through in 06 and only 5 were valid!
Democrats are known for fraud!!

Posted by: spock | October 14, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

oh, we don’t need ACORN’s help.
Did Obama need his help for entering political field?

Posted by: golfgirlusa | October 14, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

And of course John McCain and Sarah Palin are not talking about McCain’s address to ACORN’s national convention and their support of him, nor are they talking about the ties of numerous Republicans to the group. The truth? Pointing to ACORN is a distraction. They’ve basically done good work. They have brought the faulty registrations to the attention of state election officials themselves. Yes, it is all a distraction.

Posted by: Greendale Panthers | October 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Fake registrations virtually cannot lead to fake votes, but removal of registrations from the rolls can lead to changed elections. The former problem is being highlighted by Palin right now while the latter is being ignored. Is this by design?

Posted by: Gil Gamesh | October 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

mccain is friends with the guy who put obama and ayers on the same committee
mccain has been to fundraisers with acorn many republicans have
mccain was one of the Keating Five
mccain sat on a board with people involved in the iran contra scandal
mccain sat through a rally where a woman was proud of another women for shooting someone in the face
mccain campaign manager rick davis has lobbied for freddie and fannie for years, and has taken money for access to mccain
mccains wife still has dealings with charles keating
sarah palin has abused her power
sarah palins husband was part of the secessionist party in alaska for 7 years
sarah palin had government contractors build her home before she left office
sarah palin billed the state for days she worked at home and then never payed taxes on that money
YOU SEE HOW fun this guilt by association is?
well besides palin her association is herself

Posted by: Bhrandon | October 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Seems to me a candidate in favor of a fair election – who did not want a repeat of the 2000 debacle – would want a full investigation of any allegations of voter fraud.
Also, is Obama’s campaign does not need ACORN, why did it pay $800,000 to that organization?
This kind of stuff and the “this is just a distraction” is getting about as old as “if you don’t vote for Obama, you’re a racist.”
It really turns me off.

Posted by: tracim813 | October 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

I guess the Bill Ayers thing just isn’t getting the traction that the Palin/McCain ticket was hoping for, now it’s time to toss out some weird unrelated ACORN lies and hope that works.
Just like the primate house at the zoo, chuck everything against the wall and pray something sticks.
Only three more weeks and then caribou Barbie can go back to the Alaska Independence Party she loves so much to get blessed by another witch doctor and John McCain can peacefully retire like he should have done after 2000.

Posted by: Peter Jackson | October 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Again, this is voter REGISTRATION fraud, not voter fraud. It is comparing apples and oranges. Think, people, think!

Posted by: amanda | October 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Why would anyone submit registrations that are obviously fake? If they were trying to fool the system, wouldn’t they try to cover their tracks? Doesn’t this smell of a hit job on ACORN? How does anyone know that the people who are submitting fake registrations weren’t actually placed there by Rove operators and the RNC?

Posted by: Gil Gamesh | October 14, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Registration fraud is not the same thing as voter fraud. If you don’t know the difference, learn it before posting. Otherwise you’re wasting everyone’s time.

Posted by: Gil Gamesh | October 14, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

He doesn’t need ACORN to collect new voters. Look at his primary organization and the consistent outreach efforts of his entire campaign. That’s not all about ACORN.
As for the economic statement, this measured and thoughtful response is why he is ticking up in the polls and has convinced voters he is better with the economy than McCain. The tone is politically spot-on.

Posted by: matt | October 14, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Obama’s comments re: No one is having any capital gains right now (or something to that affect) demonstrate beyond any doubt that the man is totally ignorant of the markets… people are cleaning house right now, picking up companies dirt cheap.. good solid companies that will definitely increase (and in fact did today).. He is a total moron, in my opinion. No one should trust this ignoramous with the ivy leage degree to be President of our country! Wake up and vote NOBAMA!!

Posted by: Linda | October 14, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Another glib denial. Just a little short on the grim details. The election cannot be valid by Nov. 4th. Liberal criminals have infected voter registration that no informed American will believe the result.

Posted by: randy egan | October 14, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

I’m with you ‘No thanks Obama’. I’ve never been a strong supporter of McCain… but I’ll tell you what I’d take him anyday over this guy. If McCain doesn’t have the dirt after 30 yrs that Obama has had in the last 5-10 I’m for him. And you know that by God, if there was this kind of stuff going on with McCain the race would be over.
And folks, it ain’t over ’til it’s over.

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

And spock, none of those fraudulant registrations have produced actual votes for anybody, nor will they. So… what’s your point?

Posted by: Jay | October 14, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

It’s funny (ironic, even) how the media has jumped on every single thing McCain or any right-wing nut has said about Obama including keeping the insipid Ayers “non-scandal” going in their coverage. Now it’s “ACORN this and ACORN that”.
Yet, for 8 years, the policies, mistakes, lapses, and outright lies of George W. Bush and Co. has received way less scrutiny.
So Obama needs to answer questions about Ayers and ACORN (which he’s already done how many times?)but nobody (ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, ETC.) have not asked why:
1. 9/11 was allowed to happen?
2. What about those WMD’s?
3. What about all the jobs shipped overseas via corporate tax breaks?
The list goes on and on. The Bush Administration has been given a free ride for 8 YEARS. Sarah Palin is getting one now on Troopergate—where it has been determined that SHE ABUSED her power in her current position as Governer. But Obama is being hounded about two issues he has answered time and again.
The mainstream media has questioned, probed, and downright dogged Obama more in the last few months than it has Bush the last 8 years!

Posted by: princess9681 | October 14, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

no acorn is not just a distraction. ask the prosecution, the FBI, and federal courts if it is just a distraction.
voter fraud is a federal crime that carries a 10thou dollar fine and a five year prison sentence.
obama blatant disregard for american law is appalling.
ACORN IS CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR FRAUD. OBAMA PROVIDED 800 HUND THOU TO ACORN FOR THE PRIMARIES AND THEY HAVE ENDORSED OBAMA.

Posted by: landsend | October 14, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Voter fraud is inaccurate
as you cannot vote until Nov. 4, and the GOP Republicans are busy disenfranchising minorities in the largely populated urban cities with court restraints blocking the opening of early voter booths. It’s a sick, sad, world we live in that people are being preventing from going to the voting booth.
This accusation that the GOP has spun to the media is flat on its face false. Indeed there were false registration forms submitted to ACORN but that doesn’t mean voter fraud has been committed.
The main question is, who’s submitting these blatantly false registration forms. What motivation would be behind this other than to cause controversy.

Posted by: JEFO | October 14, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

republicans are running scared

Posted by: Bhrandon | October 14, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

“He doesn’t need ACORN to collect new voters. Look at his primary organization and the consistent outreach efforts of his entire campaign. That’s not all about ACORN.’
So he gave them over 800k out of the goodness of his heart?

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Why does Obama always resort to the construct that “X are not *advising* our campaign.”
I don’t think Acorn is advising Obama’s campaign. I think they are working to get Obama elected.
And the idea that Tony Romo the quarterback might show up in Ohio to vote is a distraction. The idea is that someone might say to the poll worker “Hi, I’m Tony Romo” and be allowed to vote if someone named Tony Romo is indeed registered to vote there. If there is no ID law, the poll worker is going to have a hard time stopping it.
The same is true if Acorn has registered John Bell, or Susie Sullivan, or any name they feel like making up.

Posted by: MayBee | October 14, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

JACKSON ON OBAMA’S AMERICA
PREPARE for a new America: That’s the message that the Rev. Jesse Jackson conveyed to participants in the first World Policy Forum, held at this French lakeside resort last week.
He promised “fundamental changes” in US foreign policy – saying America must “heal wounds” it has caused to other nations, revive its alliances and apologize for the “arrogance of the Bush administration.”
The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.
Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.
“Obama is about change,” Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. “And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it.”
Jackson warns that he isn’t an Obama confidant or adviser, “just a supporter.” But he adds that Obama has been “a neighbor or, better still, a member of the family.” Jackson’s son has been a close friend of Obama for years, and Jackson’s daughter went to school with Obama’s wife Michelle.
“We helped him start his career,” says Jackson. “And then we were always there to help him move ahead. He is the continuation of our struggle for justice not only for the black people but also for all those who have been wronged.”
Will Obama’s election close the chapter of black grievances linked to memories of slavery? The reverend takes a deep breath and waits a long time before responding.
“No, that chapter won’t be closed,” he says. “However, Obama’s victory will be a huge step in the direction we have wanted America to take for decades.”
Jackson rejects any suggestion that Obama was influenced by Marxist ideas in his youth. “I see no evidence of that,” he says. “Obama’s thirst for justice and equality is rooted in his black culture.”
But is Obama – who’s not a descendant of slaves – truly a typical American black?
Jackson emphatically answers yes: “You don’t need to be a descendant of slaves to experience the oppression, the suffocating injustice and the ugly racism that exists in our society,” he says. “Obama experienced the same environment as all American blacks did. It was nonsense to suggest that he was somehow not black enough to feel the pain.”
Is Jackson worried about the “Bradley effect” – that people may be telling pollsters they favor the black candidate, but won’t end up voting for him?
“I don’t think this is how things will turn out,” he says. “We have a collapsing economy and a war that we have lost in Iraq. In Afghanistan, we face a resurgent Taliban. New threats are looming in Pakistan. Our liberties have been trampled under feet . . . Today, most Americans want change, and know that only Barack can deliver what they want. Young Americans are especially determined to make sure that Obama wins.”
He sees a broad public loss of confidence in the nation’s institutions: “We have lost confidence in our president, our Congress, our banking system, our Wall Street and our legal system to protect our individual freedoms. . . I don’t see how we could regain confidence in all those institutions without a radical change of direction.”
Jackson declines to be more concrete about possible policy changes. After all, he insists, he isn’t part of Obama’s policy team. Yet he clearly hopes that his views, reflecting the position of many Democrats, would be reflected in the policies of an Obama administration.
On the economic front, he hopes for “major changes in our trading policy.”
“We cannot continue with the open-door policy,” he says. “We need to protect our manufacturing industry against unfair competition that destroys American jobs and creates ill-paid jobs abroad.”
Would that mean an abrogation of the NAFTA treaty with Canada and Mexico?
Jackson dismisses the question as “premature”: “We could do a great deal without such dramatic action.”
His most surprising position concerns Iraq. He passionately denounces the toppling of Saddam Hussein as “an illegal and unjust act.” But he’s now sure that the United States “will have to remain in Iraq for a very long time.”
What of Obama’s promise to withdraw by 2010? Jackson believes that position will have to evolve, reflecting “realities on the ground.”
“We should work with our allies in Iraq to consolidate democratic institutions there,” he says. “We must help the people of Iraq decide and shape their future in accordance with their own culture and faith.”
On Iran, he strongly supports Obama’s idea of opening a direct dialogue with the leadership in Tehran. “We’ve got to talk to tell them what we want and hear what they want,” Jackson says. “Nothing is gained by not talking to others.”
Would that mean ignoring the four UN Security Council resolutions that demand an end to Iran’s uranium-enrichment program? Jackson says direct talks wouldn’t start without preparations.
“Barack wants an aggressive and dynamic diplomacy,” he says. “He also wants adequate preparatory work. We must enter the talks after the ground has been prepared,” he says.
Jackson is especially critical of President Bush’s approach to the Israel-Palestine conflict.
“Bush was so afraid of a snafu and of upsetting Israel that he gave the whole thing a miss,” Jackson says. “Barack will change that,” because, as long as the Palestinians haven’t seen justice, the Middle East will “remain a source of danger to us all.”
“Barack is determined to repair our relations with the world of Islam and Muslims,” Jackson says. “Thanks to his background and ecumenical approach, he knows how Muslims feel while remaining committed to his own faith.”

Posted by: Real Story | October 14, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

When was the last time McCain or the AIP candidate took a question from the media? Everytime their poll numbers tank they come out with a “look it’s shiny” moment. I suppose that’s the kind of executive we’d have for the next four years.

Posted by: Bob Lees | October 14, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Republican weapons of Mass Distraction aided by the MSM. Is Obama running ads questioning Palin’s ties to AIP? Questioning the McCain campaign managers lobbying tiies to Georgia? No, and you know why? Compared to the massive job of cleaning up the mess the Republicans have made, they are small things. This election is too bi to be about small things.
01/20/09. End of an Error.

Posted by: thebob.bob | October 14, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

“And spock, none of those fraudulant registrations have produced actual votes for anybody”
Someone was just caught in Ohio committing voter fraud. Get your head out of the sand.

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

Of course it’s just a “distraction” when they’re registering democrat voters 5 and 6 times each. If it were republican voters, Obama would be outraged. He’s such a loser for president if we vote him in, we’ll deserve what we’re getting: a conversion from the USA to the USSA.

Posted by: Justin | October 14, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

So- Exactly how many primary votes were fake –that gave Obama the edge over Hillary? Is anyone going to investigate that?!! What if Obama’s entire nomination is an ACORN driven scam?!!!

Posted by: ACORN primary | October 14, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

amanda: “Again, this is voter REGISTRATION fraud, not voter fraud. It is comparing apples and oranges. Think, people, think!”
We ARE thinking Amanda… we’re thinking we smell a rat… fraud is fraud is fraud is fraud. If it didn’t matter, why would they be wasting their time. think Amanda think!
Doesn’t it bother you that there all of these shady connections that Obama has and you’re just now finding out about them, in detail, every day, because the GOP figured out that the media just doesnt report much of anything against ‘their pick’ unless forced to? That is because the media has propped up their golden boy for so long. They gave you half the news. Doesn’t that make you mad?

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

I love well thought-out commentary. No reactionaries in this group. Just thought-provoking intelligent dialog. Is it any wonder that the media has so much fun feeding consumer fear. How refreshing.

Posted by: Zephyl Schwartz | October 14, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

UH OH
guilt by association just blew up in mccains face
THIS JUST IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.
The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein’s government.

Posted by: Bhrandon | October 14, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Let us face the issues. Is any Democrat talking about Sarah Palin’s crime? No. This is a no spin zone. Please face the pocket book issues. Thanks.

Posted by: geevill | October 14, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Hmm the silent Jessie Jackson sheds some light on Mr. Obama and his real feelings towards Isreal! Posted today in the New York Post Mr. Jackson says
The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.
Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.
“Barack is determined to repair our relations with the world of Islam and Muslims,” Jackson says.
Hmm for all you Florida voters hope this opens your eyes a little about Mr. Obama!

Posted by: chuck | October 14, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

He should ask for the 800k back!
Question: why is everything that makes him look bad a “distraction”? Of course, I do believe it is a distraction, but he ran a campaign against Clinton saying that she is divisive, more of the same, etc, when the only thing against her were these same kind of attacks by Republicans. For Clinton, they made her a “monstor.” With Obama, they are just a distraction. Very interesting.

Posted by: Angry Black Democrat | October 14, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

It is amazing how many who posted think voter fraud is OK!!! Wow! Jake: This is the real news story!

Posted by: tina | October 14, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Is like Mickey Mouse or Tony Romo is going to show up in several boot to vote. IT IS A DISTRACTION BY THE EMPTY SUITE GOP.
When was the last time McCain hels a conference. Oh! where is Palin and when will she have a press conference since her nomination..

Posted by: james | October 14, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

just because you have fake registered names does in no way suggest that those people can vote
after someone has signed up as a voter
they have to respond to a registration by the state through the mail
if they dont respond then the voter is taken off the rolls
no one can come in and vote multiple times if they dont have proper ID
sorry peeps you guys are blowing this way out of proportion

Posted by: Bhrandon | October 14, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Obviously Relosercans are wasting their time over voter REGISTRATION fraud, not voter fraud.
They have nothing. This is their last ditch effort.
I say the relosercans look into Mr. McCains excuses about why he was Bullying regulators to stay away from Charles Keating. That cost Americans Billions of dollars, not Zero dollars ACORN is costing Americans.

Posted by: George | October 14, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

it does not matter if it is registration, or voter fraud the law is clear either is fraud any tampering with a federal election or its prcesses is fraud get it.
acorn is currently under investigation by the FBI the FEDS for FRAUD get it. you guys are in total denial.

Posted by: landsend | October 14, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Obama is going to win this election and there is no doubt.
One cannot deny his link with ACORN in the past and even present. He needs to step forward and make a tough statement to his campaign staff and ACORN – “This is not the way we want to win the election. If any of our campaign staff was involved in the ACORN’s fraud they will be handed over the authorities to be dealt with”
We all are fed up with the past 8 years. Obama is the only choice. We don’t need to steal votes when we can win it the normal way with a big landslide.

Posted by: Jonathan | October 14, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Why is everything that’s said against Obama described as a ‘distraction’ by him. Is all of life just one big distraction or what? He pulls his fans around and wraps his arms around them and says, “come on guys, it’s just another distraction. dont’ believe a word they say.” I would be furious if I was an Obama fan. I would feel betrayed and disrespected. I would feel lied to. McCain has made some moves that I have shaken my head on… but nothing, NOTHING has compared to the outrage I would feel if I kept finding out this kind of stuff about his associations and he kept passing it off as distractions. It’s outright insulting to the intelligence

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

“sorry peeps you guys are blowing this way out of proportion’
Someone was caught in the act of commiting voter fraud in Ohio. Check Drudge.

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

I find it hard to believe there are so many ignorant, uninformed, uneducated people out there that haven’t clue as to how the election process works in a democracy. But then, the far right wing raises its ugly head, and I realize that it doesn’t take all the thinking people using their vote to elect a person into office, but a majority. And that is why this election is still so close, because we let stupid people cast votes just like we do democrats.

Posted by: Jay | October 14, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

So- Exactly how many primary votes were fake –that gave Obama the edge over Hillary? Is anyone going to investigate that?!! What if Obama’s entire nomination is an ACORN driven scam?!!! List of Distractions:
1. ACORN
2. Reverend Wright
3. Bill Ayers
4. Harvard Entrance letter written by radical Extreme Muslim
5. Chicago had 262 murders in 6 months- if Obama can’t fix Illinois, how can we expect him to fix America?

Posted by: Distractions | October 14, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Empty vessels make the most sound and that is the republicans

Posted by: james | October 14, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.
The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein’s government.
During the same period beginning in 1992, Timmons worked closely with the two lobbyists, Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, on a previously unreported prospective deal with the Iraqis in which they hoped to be awarded a contract to purchase and resell Iraqi oil. Timmons, Vincent, and Park stood to share at least $45 million if the business deal went through.

Posted by: Mike NC | October 14, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Wake me up when it’s been proven that the AIP has bombed any federal installations and/or killed anyone like those Marxists in the Weather Underground. Until then, the AIP isn’t any different than the pro-CSA people in the South: nothing but a lot of hot air, no bite.

Posted by: kws | October 14, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

“We all are fed up with the past 8 years. Obama is the only choice. We don’t need to steal votes when we can win it the normal way with a big landslide. ”
Did Barack Obama approve that statement?

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

To POSC and your comment: “McCainites, WHEN ARE YOUR CANDIDATES GOING TO TALK STRAIGHT TO THE PRESS???”
Your liberal media won’t even give them a chance.
To Pacific moderate and your comment:
“Now remind me, when has Sarah Palin held a press conference since she became a vice presidential nominee?”
You are comparing Obama who is running for President to Palin who is running for VP and asking why she is not holding a press conference…are you that dense? Do you really need an answer to that one???

Posted by: dziner | October 14, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Why hasn’t this AIP stuff about Sarah Palin and her husband “1st Dude” been brought out on the news channels? I am a Republican and would like to know what the difference is in what Obama is being accused of (Ayers) – (Rev. Wright). Sounds like the Palin’s have something to hide and I wonder if this is going to come up in the debate. Is this true about the Palin’s? If so, I probably will not vote at all. Hypocracy? Jeez!

Posted by: EssGee | October 14, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

The Republicans tried to make fun of Barack Obama as a community organizer at their national convention in Minnesota, which I guess just goes to show how little Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have to fear from right-wing “humor.”
Now they’ve gone further: Now they’re attacking ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), one of the strongest, hardest-working, most dedicated community organizations in both Chicago and in 40 states across the U.S.
Why are they after ACORN? Well, I’m sure they’re going to come up with a lot of “reasons” in the coming days. But the real reason is obvious: Because ACORN, along with Project Vote, just announced that they had successfully registered 1.3 million poor people this year.
Get that? 1.3 million, including 148,000 in Pennsylvania, 152,000 in Florida, 217,000 in Michigan, and 238,000 in Ohio. No wonder the GOP is up in arms. They’re scared of too many poor people preparing to vote this year.
In the last week, the right wing has tried to blame ACORN for the collapse of the globalized financial system–yeah, that’s a viable argument. They got excited because they found a some possible fake registration forms in Florida, which predictably led to a bunch of whining from the party that stole an entire presidency from Al Gore by blocking vote counts, mischaracterizing voters as felons, refusing to recount entire counties, sending congressional staff down to riot and intimidate volunteer vote-counters, and topped it all off with the most partisan, badly-reasoned, illegitimate Supreme Court decision since Plessy v. Ferguson. A decision so illegitimate that the partisan majority, to their eternal discredit, themselves damned by writing into their own decision that it should never be used as a precedent for any other court ruling.
This week, the right-wing is hyperventilating because apparently Democratic election officials raided an ACORN office after they found the names of some Dallas Cowboy football players among the 80,000 new registration forms that ACORN helped to get done in Nevada.
Obviously it’s not right for a fake “Tony Romo” to be registered in Las Vegas, so someone was probably playing a not-very-funny joke, or trying to pad their registration numbers to get paid a little more money rather than doing the hard work in the hot Nevada sun that helping voters to register requires, or maybe a provocateur was setting up ACORN for some bad press. But remember the basic point–it’s not voter fraud unless someone shows up at the voting booth on election day and tries to pass himself off as “Tony Romo.” And who would try to do that? No one is going to be that stupid.
The truth is, the main voter fraud efforts going on in my lifetime–and I was born the week of the Selma march in 1965–have been repeated conservative attempts, far too many of them successful, to demonize and suppress the vote of African-Americans and Latinos in election after election, a history for which former RNC Chair Ken Mehlman actually apologized a few years ago, while promising the GOP would no longer engage in such tactics.
So they stole an election from Gore, made the Department of Justice into an outfit for partisan hacks, allowed New Orleans to drown, lied us into a war against a country that did not threaten us, replaced science with bad ideology, indebted our grandchildren to China, and turned our banking system into a deregulated casino–but thank the Lord that “Tony Romo” will not be able to sneak in to vote in Nevada next month.
This time, there are already fake flyers mysteriously appearing on the streets of minority areas of Philadelphia, illegal voter purges in numerous states, “caging” tricks, threats of using home foreclosure lists to strike voters from the rolls, and “black box” electronic vote-counting systems under the control of private companies–and we haven’t even gotten to election day!
Meanwhile, I say thank you, ACORN. Thank you, Project Vote, for taking our democracy seriously enough to try to include 1.3 million more poor people in a more perfect union.

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 14, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

princess9681:
And where have you been living for the last 8 years?
Obama is the only one that never has to answer questions.

Posted by: SandyB | October 14, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

To Mack and your victory speech…
We shall see. We shall see.

Posted by: dziner | October 14, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

ACORN, Rev. Wright, Underground,etc…
How could American voters beleive in Obama’s promises?

Posted by: alex | October 14, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

I challenge you right wingers to get John McSame to repeat the same absurd accusations that you write in postings and email to your friends.
Just how far will you “good Christians” go to win an election? Or, is it that you are really so uninformed as to believe the BS you write?

Posted by: Dave | October 14, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF A FAKE REGISTERED PERSON ACTUALLY VOTES OR NOT IT IS FRAUD AS PER FEDERAL LAW REGARDLESS. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE FBI.
OBAMA MUST RETURN THE MONEY HE GAVE ACORN AND DISTANCE HIMSELF PUBLICALLY FROM THAT ORGANIZATION.

Posted by: landsend | October 14, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

OBAMA MODIFIED HIS WEBSITE TO HIDE HIS WORK WITH ACORN:
The originally website said:
Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
Sometime on Friday, the website was altered, and the text was changed to state:
Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.
The mere fact that his campaign has now changed the language of the site shows that they have conceded the fact that their original remark was a bold-face lie. As a lawyer Sen. Obama should know the importance of language.
The original statement implied that he had no working connection with ACORN, whereas the new statement now insists that he has never been employed or hired by ACORN.

Posted by: tina | October 14, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Whenever the Republicans are down in the polls, they alway try to blame it on Dems.
I don’t hear the media or people talking about the mailings in Florida by the RNC which look like actual voters registration cars. These were mailed only to Dems and Independents telling them that they are registered Republicans and that they should contribtute to MacShame’s campaign.
They only talked about this once in the news almost a month ago.
Don

Posted by: Don | October 14, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

I know. Let’s keep track of how many times Obama says the word “distraction”. They were counting how many times he said “pie” the other day. Now that’s highly informational news, but I think we should go on to more important words like ‘DISTRACTION’

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

ACORN is running the same system Bush introduced in America. Bush never won an election and yet he is serving 2 terms. I guess the Democrats have accepted & are implementing this system.Please stop the noise and catch us if you can period.

Posted by: geevill | October 14, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Empty vessels make the most sound and that is the republicans
Empty vessels make the most sound and that is the republicans
Empty vessels make the most sound and that is the republicans

Posted by: james | October 14, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Deena Rockefeller, does that 1.3 million voter registration include Mickey Mouse?

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 14, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

ACORN OR NO ACORN OBAMA/BIDEN WILL WIN THIS ELECTION.

Posted by: Aurora Fam | October 14, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Anywhere a Republican wins here in Kansas they do everything possible to make is as difficult as possible to register any new voter. Confusing forms, moving polling places, ‘lost’ registration forms, ect, ect. This is the true corruption of democracy. As thier name suggests they would prefer a Republic, not a Democracy.

Posted by: dsmith | October 14, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

I agree landsend: McCain should distance himself publically from ACORN.

Posted by: Jay | October 14, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Bhrandon
You beat me by one second LOL
Yu see also that they said “Kill Obama” again at the Palin rally and she laughed ?

Posted by: Mike NC | October 14, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

“You are what makes America special” Senator John McCain tells ACORN at a rally.

Posted by: Paige | October 14, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

David Plouffe called the charge that ACORN was illegally registering voters (and that Obama had nefarious ties to the organization) a cynical “smokescreen” and an attempt to discourage people from going to the polls.
“This is just the start of what is going to be a very deliberate and cynical attempt to try and create confusion and challenge people inappropriately,” he said. “They clearly, strategically, believe the more people who vote in this election, the less their chances are [for victory].”
At one point, Plouffe chided the conservative echo chamber that had painted ACORN — which helps poor communities with a number of issues including voter registration and affordable housing — as a criminal enterprise.
“Fox News has turned themselves into the 24-hour ACORN channel,” he said, adding later: “We are not particular concerned with these predictable Republican tactics.”

Posted by: Mike NC | October 14, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

All of this really is a distraction. I think the nation of voters who have not made up thier minds have noticed that we have a MUCH bigger problem called a financial crisis. McCain, so far, has only provided an indecisive and disjointed plan of how to deal with this crisis. Obama has provided a sound, reasonable solution. He acknowledges that the road ahead will be hard and that people will have to make sacrifices. McCain thought the economy was fundamentally sound until a few weeks ago when banks began failing. McCain is a reactionary on issues like foreign policy, fiscal policy, taxation, medicare, social security, and defence. We have already seen 8 years of this. Obama thinks, and plans for the future as only a true leader can.
Vote for Change
Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: wlw145s | October 14, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

The voter registration debate is, in fact, highly predictable. Each cycle, Democrats cry afoul about voter suppression, while Republicans bemoan fraud. Victory in such political trench-warfare is usually defined in media narratives rather than registration numbers. Although the New York Times recently reported that,”Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law.”

Posted by: Bhrandon | October 14, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Just how long will Obama expect his followers to remain in denial?? But if they admit to themselves that he’s a fraud, they will have to admit they’ve been wrong. I’m not sure they are up to that. So they keep following him like little sheep.

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Always amazing how gullible, and parrotlike, GOPers are.
This is not about Voter Fraud, as none of the false registrations will be real voters. ACORN’s problem is their hiring practices. People get paid, and don’t do the work.
This whole disinformation campaign, by the GOP, is an attempt to suppress the vote of poor people, who generally vote Dem.

Posted by: baz | October 14, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Typical Obama.Lie first, answer no questions later.

Posted by: Rasputin3.14 | October 14, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Just how long will Obama expect his followers to remain in denial?? But if they admit to themselves that he’s a fraud, they will have to admit they’ve been wrong. I’m not sure they are up to that. So they keep following him like little sheep.
Insert “McCain” for “Obama” and you have the correct answer.

Posted by: Jay | October 14, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Anywhere a Republican wins here in Kansas they do everything possible to make is as difficult as possible to register any new voter. Confusing forms, moving polling places, ‘lost’ registration forms, ect, ect. This is the true corruption of democracy. As thier name suggests they would prefer a Republic, not a Democracy.
Posted by: dsmith | Oct 14, 2008 4:35:42 PM
———————————-
Really?!!! I had no problem registering when I moved here, I could register online, by mail, in person and even check it all online. My husband had no trouble registering and he just became a citizen this year….I think you can come up with better than that.

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 14, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Bhrandon- The GOP used this tactic against JFK in 1960. Talk about a worn out play-book!

Posted by: Paige | October 14, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

It’s time again to remember the backstory of the US Attorney Firing scandal. The firings were one thing. But the story behind the firings, what led to them, is key to understanding the current ‘vote fraud’ scam being played by the Republicans and the media outlets that are going along with the scam.
Remember, the US Attorneys in question were all either Republicans or Republican-leaning independents. In every case, they were appointed by George W. Bush. In most of the cases their firing was tied to ‘vote fraud’ claims stemming from the 2004 election.
The pattern was very consistent. During the final weeks of the 2004 campaign Republican partisans started pressing claims of widespread voter fraud. In many, though not all cases, the examples they pointed to were not even allegations of voter fraud, but allegations of voter registration fraud: examples of people being registered more than once, non-existent people being registered, etc.
The Republicans making these claims argued that these problems with registration cards were opening the coming election up to widespread vote fraud. Logically, this makes no sense. And, more importantly, all evidence shows this has never happened, certainly not in any widespread sense. Every person who claims otherwise is either ignorant or speaking in bad faith.

Posted by: Bhrandon | October 14, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

To all of you Obama supporters who do not believe voter REGISTRATION fraud is any big deal….I ask you:
-If McCain’s campaign was the one associated with ACORN would you feel the same way?
-The biggest problem with your argument is that in some of these “battleground” states, including Ohio, those fraudulent registration forms were accepted by a state that also allowed same-day voting, without independent confirmation of peoples’ identities.
Look, I know you want Obama to win, but if he wins in this way – isn’t that the same thing you all said about Bush in 2000? Why is it any more acceptable now?

Posted by: no thanks obama | October 14, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

LOL…..
McCain as a Key note speaker promoting Community Activist work
VERSUS Obama:
Representing them as and attorney, Coaching them on how to “get-out-the-vote” and the best one of them all….giving them $800,000 to “get-out-the-vote” because some how paying someone to get votes for you, from what appears by any means necesary, is A-OKAY!!!
LMAO….yes, I see why the two are the same……
If you guys remember anything, remember this…..go back and look at the elections in Illinois that Obama participated in and look at his dirty politics and his “technicality” efforts to get his competition booted off the election ballots…Seems tachnicality is not in his favor right now..but poor Barry S. is being soooo mistreated……looks likes his own “chickens may be comming home to roost”!!!
Heopfully sooner rather than later!
“political correctness is the downfall of this country”

Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | October 14, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Mack: “Someone was caught in the act of commiting voter fraud in Ohio. Check Drudge.”
From the article linked in Drudge:
“… he breezed into Ohio election offices – the state allows early voting for president – reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said.”
Where’s the ACORN involvement there, exactly? That’s some guy going into the election offices, reregistering, and casting a fake vote.
That’s NOTHING to do with ACORN registering him. That’s just some idiot.
Get a grip.

Posted by: Aengil | October 14, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

The fat lady is warming up. It’s all over but the rolling of the credits for an Obama/Biden democratic sweep. John needs to saddle up old Paint and ride into that Arizona sunset. Sarah needs to just leave — exit stage left.

Posted by: Jay | October 14, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Obama will win and win in a landslide. There is nothing that will prevent it. Republicans are too selfish to get out to stop it – they think they can keep the black man down.
Wait until we rise above them in power and they are made to pay for all of the injustice they’ve heaped on our people for so long. It’s over. Give it up.

Posted by: obama is the one | October 14, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

“David Plouffe called the charge that ACORN was illegally registering voters (and that Obama had nefarious ties to the organization) a cynical “smokescreen” and an attempt to discourage people from going to the polls.”
Shouldn’t we also find out what Roland Martin and Anderson Cooper have to say about this.

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Distraction…your comment is worth repeating, I will add some to yours:
So- Exactly how many primary votes were fake –that gave Obama the edge over Hillary? Is anyone going to investigate that?!! What if Obama’s entire nomination is an ACORN driven scam?!!! List of Distractions:
1. ACORN
2. Reverend Wright
3. Bill Ayers
4. Harvard Entrance letter written by radical Extreme Muslim
5. Chicago had 262 murders in 6 months- if Obama can’t fix Illinois, how can we expect him to fix America?
6. He could not make a low income housing project work in little ol Chicago, how on earth is he going to fix the entire US Economy????
Let’s do it this way:
Ayers + Rev. Wright + (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) + ACORN + Giving $800,000 to ACORN for what appears to commit fraud + Farrakhan + Rezko + Raines + Khali Al-Mansour + Communist Frank Marshall Davis + Rashi Khalidi + Refusal to show full length vault copy of Birth Certificate + Refusal to prove he is no longer an Indonesian Citizen + Refusal to show college transcripts to prove he actually graduate from college denoting his grades + Refusal to show thesis (which is something America will not appreciate from what I hear) =
= Corruption, deceitful, and liar with obvious criminality ties and/or behaviors.

Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | October 14, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

I AM A MCCAIN SUPPORTER BUT i have no ill feelings toward obama but regarding acorn, obama does need to address this and distance himself from this organization. obama needs to make it clear, that fraud is a crime, and speak against any effort to assist his election thru fraud and illegal means.

Posted by: landsend | October 14, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Jay: I’m not a McCain fan, so am not following him like the little sheep that follow their leader Obama. I’m just saying that Obama is a fraud and his sheep are in clear denial. Just because one hates the opponent or his party, doesn’t automatically make the other guy a good guy that should be blindly followed. That’s all I’m saying

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Republicans are so desperate now. they are sure they will lose BIG this November, so they have to call the results into question before the election. They can’t admit that nobody is buying their brand anymore.

Posted by: helloworld | October 14, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

McCain had no trouble fraternizing with ACORN in 2006 when their political interests coincided with his. Now, his campaign is writing e-mails in his name bashing ACORN as a tool of the Obama machine.

Posted by: Paige | October 14, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Mack…why should we wait to see what Copper and Martin have to say…they will say the same thing….they are in the Tank for Obama…..
TRUE Journalism is DEAD!

Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | October 14, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

McCain is simply calling it as it is. Fraud has been alleged and is a known problem with ACORN this election. Period. Should he ignore it? No, he should not. Only a fool would say it doesn’t matter.

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Obama worried about voter supression? That’s how he won his first election. He ran unopposed, because his legal team got the ballot petitions for both of his opponents thrown out.
Obama’s ACORN ties are a little deeper than he admits, too. He personally provided training to them, and his campaign THIS YEAR has given ACORN $800,000 for GOTV activities. So who’s paying folks to register Tony Romo? Barack Obama, among others.

Posted by: Matt Dooley | October 14, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

All I want to know about the “Mainstreet Media” is when you are going to start reporting the REAL NEWS about NOBAMA??? Thank God for Fox News, at least they are fair and balanced!

Posted by: Jeanne | October 14, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Samhiguchi:
Please know this. The Repubs are looking for an excuse. When Obama wins, they want to have someone or some thing to blame… ie false registrations.
It is not considered voter fraud until that person actually shows up on election day or during early voting to caste a vote.
It’s funny. ACORN has been around for decades and it now suddenly a problem when a black man is running for president. If I weren’t white, I would be raising hell.

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 14, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

I love Obama’s logic and his ability to think ahead whether it is about the economy or foreign policy. He has all the qualities we could wish for in a leader. Calm under fire, detailed policies, (they are all on his website, some commenters have complained Obama gives no details in his ads. If any politician’s details fits in a 60 second ad there would be no real substance!) his faith in all of us to bring this country around and his connection to real people. His smile is genuine as he meets people; it is the same one you see him give to his daughters. I also love the fact they are not dragging their children around to many events but keeping their home life as normal as possible. The way someone parents, whether they think through what is best for the child, says a lot about the kind of leader they will be. Obama has my vote.

Posted by: Lydia | October 14, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

The real question should have been: Mr.Obama, in light of your camp having to ammend its FEC report over your undisclosed money injection into ACORN for “Get out the Vote” program, would you not like to get back the $800,00.00 you gave them? You see….this way you are better able to fudge the fact that you do have dealing with ACORN. Character Matters!!

Posted by: commrat72 | October 14, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

ACORN is a desperate distraction.
It won’t work. Unless OBAMA was the one signing up the voters,,, his hands are clean.
You people get a life!

Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 14, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

All I want to know about the “Mainstreet Media” is when you are going to start reporting the REAL NEWS about NOBAMA??? Thank God for Fox News, at least they are fair and balanced!
Posted by: Jeanne | Oct 14, 2008 4:53:40 PM
LMAO! I hope you aren’t being serious! There is no such thing as an “unbiased” media. Balanced! Give me a break! Might as well call it GOP News. Or FEAR News.

Posted by: wlw145s | October 14, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

It can’t get much better than this… Daily Kos has a video of McCain as the headliner in an ACORN sponsored rally and shows McCain embracing ACORN and their allies.

Posted by: pamp205 | October 14, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

ACORN isn’t involved with Obama’s general election campaign. Obama has his own people who register people to vote.

Posted by: Nancy | October 14, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

If Obama wins the election, his name will always have an asterisk next to it on the list of Presidents. Just as Barry Bonds career is tainted by the stench of steroids, Obama’s presidency will be tainted by the stench of ACORN and its massive levels of voter fraud. Obama was once the General Counsel of ACORN and acted as one of the trainors of the ACORN activists. He even gave ACORN $800,000 of his campaign money just recently to take part in this voter fraud activity. This is shameful and, if it were anyone other than the Obamessiah, would lead to a precipitous drop in the polls. However, the mainstream media are in the tank for Obama so the word is only slowly getting out. God help America if Obama is elected.

Posted by: Saul | October 14, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

I guess ACORN fixed it so McCain is down 10 points nationally too, eh Repubs? You people have no shame. You loved the 2000 results, in which the margin of victory was less than the margin of error in Florida, so you all can just deal with whatever comes your way now.

Posted by: helloworld | October 14, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

Yes….when will they pound it home to have Obama show to COURTS and/or THOROUGHLY explain the following:
Ayers + Rev. Wright + (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) + ACORN + Giving $800,000 to ACORN for what appears to commit fraud + Farrakhan + Rezko + Raines + Khali Al-Mansour + Communist Frank Marshall Davis + Rashi Khalidi + Refusal to show full length vault copy of Birth Certificate + Refusal to prove he is no longer an Indonesian Citizen + Refusal to show college transcripts to prove he actually graduate from college denoting his grades + Refusal to show thesis (which is something America will not appreciate from what I hear)
Why is he blocking the court case if he is innocent? Just show the friggin paper work to a judge and be done with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | October 14, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

BREAKING NEWS!!!!
McCain Transition Chief Aided Saddam In Lobbying Effort…….
Looks Like ACORN is a non-issue – Tee Hee
People who live in glass houses (Republicans) should not throw stones.

Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 14, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Jake,
Why is the headline about ACORN? Why wasn’t your headline about what Obama said about McCain’s economic plan.

Posted by: Nancy | October 14, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

I guess ACORN fixed it so McCain is down 10 points nationally too, eh Repubs? You people have no shame. You loved the 2000 results, in which the margin of victory was less than the margin of error in Florida, so you all can just deal with whatever comes your way now.

Posted by: helloworld | October 14, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

obama is sowing the seeds of disregard lawlessness and established principles upon which our democracy was built by refusing to be accountable for the actions of an organization that he funded and trained and that has admitted that they support him. yes he is responsible. obama must set a good example especially, for the legions of young people whom he inspires. it is in his best interest and will gain him respect even from those of us that don’t support him.

Posted by: landsend | October 14, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

While many Americans support Obama for good reasons, voting with their head, and so many others – especially those active online and those who have little educations, they do so blindly, knowing not much at all. They see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear, using double standards almost everywhere. Just so naive and stupid, indeed! I would have no problem with a president Obama if he wins fair and square, but it’s not going to be the case, and that is one of the major reasons I will never vote for him.

Posted by: tiger | October 14, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

$800,000
This guy’s a joke.

Posted by: John | October 14, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Yes!
ACORN is considered the kitchen sink… and it still isnt working for the Repubs. Give it up!

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 14, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Voter registration fraud leads to voter fraud. Here’s why – in Florida, they have over 30,000 felons registered to vote. Why? Because they’re processing so many new registrations that they can’t check the felons against the list.
That’s what happens when you get thousands of extra voter registration. The registrars office doesn’t have time to do other important work, because they’re checking Micky Mouse’s ballot.

Posted by: Matt Dooley | October 14, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Oh, right, “we don’t need ACORN in this election” – How do you ACORN guys feel when you hear this from your idol? Think of it, Obama campaign contributed close to 1 million to ACORN yet he so distanced himself as he had nothing to do with this organization, just like he did on everything else – Ayer, Rev. Wright, etc.!

Posted by: tiger | October 14, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

So is Obama asking for his $800,000 back? Sounds like he is trying to weasal out of paying. ACORN employees work their fingers to the bone registering dead people, children & even Mickey Mouse & Obama throws them under the bus. Ingrate!

Posted by: paulejb | October 14, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

pamp205 it dosen’t matter it mccain said nice things about acorn in the past mccain did not fund them with campaign money, did not train them and defend them legally. big difference. this is in obamas best interest to own up. be accountable, be responsible, it is the very least we can expect from a prospective president.
i do not know if that in itself would change my vote, but it would change my opinion of the man.

Posted by: landsend | October 14, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

I’d LOVE for McCain to bring up ACORN tomorrow along with the other littany of manufactured controversies they have been promoting. Would just love it! Then Obama can just blow that silly argument out of the water and directly accuse McCain and the Republicans fro caging,etc. and all the dirty tricks they have been using in Ohio and Virginia to ensure that students not vote.

Posted by: Don | October 14, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

The reason McCain/Palin are focused on ACORN is because they are NUTS…. lol!!!
That’s right…
Ignore Troopergate and AIP and McCain’s ties to Saddam and focus on ACORN…

Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 14, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

I love it! The GOP is already setting the stage to whine about why they lost the election. They’ll blame ACORN and ‘voter fraud’ even though anyone with an IQ over 40 knows that filling out bogus registration forms and actual voter fraud are two completely different things.
So let’s say I fill out ten fake registration forms using names like Indiana Jones and Dude Abides. Aside from the fact that they will be tossed once the state board investigates them, my state has a voter ID law, so I can only vote once.
Am I going to have ten fake IDs made so maybe the old people at the polling place won’t know it’s me voting there ten times in one day?
Only a complete idiot would think it’s possible to commit voter fraud in this manner.
The GOP will lose because they ran a crappy candidate in a crappy campaign, not because of voter fraud. They will lose because Obama will get more votes legitimately and that really burns the Roves of the GOP.
I can’t wait to see all the “He’s not MY president” bumperstickers this winter, because the republicans are the biggest sore loser whiners on the planet.

Posted by: Rockets go BANG | October 14, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

ACORN was defrauded by its own employees. Pity, but it’s got nothing to do with the central issues of the campaign.
McCain’s swift boat needs bailing.

Posted by: Yukon Sam | October 14, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

NANCY???? Ummmmmmm…..
When one pays $800,000 to ACORN to “Help-get-out-the-vote”…..
You are right…he had nothing to do with ACORN…..
LMAO….SHEEP SHEEP SHEEP

Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | October 14, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

So Obama donated 800K to ACORN for what? We don’t need them…indeed.
Every disagreement with me is from now on going to be a “distraction.”
My wife: hey, you said you were going to mow the lawn and you didn’t!
Me: Honey, that’s just a distraction from the real issue of low paid yard workers!
Wife: *glare*

Posted by: Wade | October 14, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

msa123:
Voter registration cards are a legal document. ACORN must turn them in. And they do, flagged if they caught them themselves. Imagine finding voter registrations in the trash. What would people being saying then? It’s funny how us “liberals” hate the MSM as well. (Who do they connect with anyway?!?) We go to other sources to get the full story. We look further than the talking points to get to the truth. What have we found out? Anything Republicans are complaining about, they are doing only in a more sinister way. (Voter caging, purging, suppression) It is all about the power. Let me guess, Fannie/Freddie brought down the world’s ecomony as well as Community Reinvestment Act of 1977? What did Rick Davis get paid for from Fannie/Freddie? How about McCain being the head speaker at 2006 ACORN convention? How about McCain hiring another lobbyist this one with actual terrorists ties and conviction? Any comment? Do you feel the same hatred for McCain? Why not?

Posted by: amanda | October 14, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

LOL @ Troopergate…
“She was well within her right to terminate [him]…”
Ethics violation because she did not muzzle her husband…….
Right….she is a bad person for wanting a cop take off the streets whom drinks during his shift, operates a cop car while consuming alcohol, tasers a kid, abuses his shield and threatens the life of others……
You guys are right……she is such an IDIOT….I am sure M.A.D.D. is upset with her for trying to get a drunk off the streets……..

Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | October 14, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Obama gave training sessions to ACORN. Obama lies….too much evidence Obama! I guess you can fool some of the people some of the time on issues…but you have WAY too many issues going on and someone will eventually throw a wrench into your Chicago machine.

Posted by: Ann | October 14, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

LOL…..Wade!

Posted by: UnPoliticallyCorrect2008 | October 14, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

tiger..after watching the campaign rallies of McCain/Palin, I’d say that theory is out the winda..And by the way, just because someone is “uneducated” dosen’t mean they are stupid or ignorant. I find it rather funny that the educated people who support Obama are understandable, but the uneducated voters can’t possibly know what they are doing. I don’t know where you got your education, but you must have missed a few classes.

Posted by: hannah | October 14, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

If he didn’t need ACORN…
Then why did he flip them 800 grand?
And yet another “distraction” for this guy?
How many “distractions” does this guy have anyway?
WAY TOO MUCH TO BE POTUS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

Posted by: Scott | October 14, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

response to helloworld no i did not enjoy the election fraud issues perpetrated by republicans in electing gwb. that was wrong. let us not taint another election or candidate who will forever be tainted with suspicions of fraud. it is wrong regardless of which party does it.
by the way i am a democrat hillary supporter who is now supporting mccain BUT if obama wins as always i will respect the will of the people.
remember obama campaigned on CHANGE, excusing the behavior because the republicans did it is self defeating.

Posted by: landsend | October 14, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

“I haven’t looked at all the details of his capital gains proposal. I will tell you that nobody one really has capital gains right now – so if the idea is the cut capital gains taxes, when I don’t know anybody, even the smartest investors who right now are going to be experiencing a lot of capital gains.” Obama
Obama=clueless

Posted by: selda | October 14, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Will ABC ask both candidates their position on the prosecution of both fraud AND suppression of the voting process?
1. Voting is a fundamental American right.
2. The voting process MUST have FULL integrity – ALL suspected fraud AND suppression MUST be investigated and prosecuted to the FULLEST.
3. The voting process requires BOTH prior registration AND valid identification – NO ACTUAL votes can be cast from a fraudulent registration without being accompanied by fraudelent identification.
4. Since ACORN MUST accept all voter registrations, so as to not to suppress legimate votes, it tries to flag suspicious registrations as such PRIOR to turning them over to state registrars, as it has done.
Given all these points, I find it extremely difficult to believe that this ACORN is a result of anything other than pranksters.
No candidates will actually receive any fraudulent votes based on ACORN forms, and both parties know it.
Only one party (the Republicans) is trying to benefit from this, and they are also connected to several apparent voter suppression efforts in key swing states. Why? Who is asking what the connection is?
Unlike the ACORN tempest in a teapot, voter suppression involves denying Americans a fundamental right – and is therefore what the press and the public should really be paying attention to.
I am certain that both McCain and Obama will agree that any irregularity in the voting process, be it fraud, intentionally not providing sufficient voting facilities and machines, or suppression of votes, must be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Will ABC ask both candidates their position on the prosecution of both fraud and suppression of the voting process?

Posted by: Henk | October 14, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Ok–Let just say that there was registratin fraud. When the actual voting starts— Nobody will be able to vote more than once. This is much to do about nothing. Let stay focus on the real issues, like people losing their homes, etc……

Posted by: P. Roach | October 14, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

All of these comments that voter fraud is irrelevant are from a bunch of half wit Democrats that cried after the last two elections because of all of the “evil” voter intimidation. And this was with no evidence whatsoever that voter intimidation even occurred. Leftists believe that asking someone to identify themselves at a polling place is voter intimidation. If the ACORN based voter fraud in the 2000 and 2004 elections were prevented, those two elections wouldn’t have even been close. To save the integrity of our voting system, we have to prevent the ACORN voter fraud NOW, before the election!!! Fraudulent write-in ballots are already turning up in Ohio and other states. Socialists – If you can’t win fairly, then don’t play the game.

Posted by: Saul | October 14, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

ITS FUNNY HOW OBAMA CAN EVEN DISMISS THIS..
ITS EVEE MORE AMAZING HOW ALL FOUR NETWORKS ARE NOT SPINNING THIS 24/7 OR ALASKA -BOUND TO DIG UP DIRT..

Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | October 14, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Sorry about the spelling. Registration is what I meant.

Posted by: P. Roach | October 14, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Ok, I’m still not sure what the big deal is about acorn. The recruiters got paid by the number of voters they registered. So some people cheated. And it’s a registration, not a vote. And why is it Obama’s fault? And how many times does he have to answer these questions. Most of you will never be satisfied with any of his answers. Frankly I don’t see the point. I see now CNN is questioning Palin’s involvement with AIP.She must be guilty. Her husband is a member of AIP. So now we’ll see if she has to answer for it or if the media will give her a free ride. I want to see her on every blog and newscast explaining. Her, not her advisors.

Posted by: penny | October 14, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

ONE BLACK GUY INTERVIWED BY FOX HAS TOLD THE FEDS, ACORN PAID HIM TO REGISTER AND VOTE 73 TIMES FOR OBAMA
73 TIME?
GRACIOUS LORD!

Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | October 14, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Idiots.
Please tell me how a fake voter casts a ballot.

Posted by: James Andre | October 14, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Here ya go, James.
“In Ohio, where President George W. Bush prevailed over Sen. John Kerry and sealed the 2004 presidential election by only approximately 120,000 votes, voter fraud is running rampant. For a one week time frame beginning on September 30 and ending October 6, the state is actually permitting same-day registration and absentee voting, which means that you or I could walk into a polling place, register to vote with any address, cast our vote via absentee ballot without giving good reason as to why, and by the time the fraudulent registration is processed and the problem discovered, the votes will have been counted and the point-of-no-return surpassed. Furthermore, activists from so-called “non-partisan” organizations are trolling homeless shelters and bus stations in vans and buses, transporting people to election offices to take advantage of the one-week free-for-all on voter fraud.”

Posted by: Emm | October 14, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

This is not NEW… most all intelligent voters know about this; plus, this is how Barrack Hussein Obama got into his lst political office in Chicago, by doing this sort of stuff; so the BO gang figures it worked before,so let’s do it again.
FYI: ACORN (another Obama activity) helped cause this financial meltdown by forcing bankers/creditors/lenders to give loans to people/voters that they knew (upfront) could/would never repay the mortgage, but they could still vote.
You must do your own research/homework as media won’t give you the truth, but if you do, you’ll know the “TRUTH” about BO and his cronies.

Posted by: ltk01 | October 14, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Distractions, all questions about Barack Obama’s character and judgement are labeled as distractions… Of course they are, it certainly would be distracting to voters if they knew what a scumbag, criminal he is!!!

Posted by: Delaware Vol | October 14, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Zero-bama buys everything, ACORN and your votes. He helped giving you “poor, less-educated, gun and God-clinging” people $600 bucks, rather than using that money to rescue the banking and mortgage meltdown one year ago, and he promises to give you another $1000 bucks if you vote for him.

Posted by: d0 | October 14, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Obama Said:
“”I haven’t looked at all the details of his capital gains proposal. I will tell you that nobody one really has capital gains right now – so if the idea is the cut capital gains taxes, when I don’t know anybody, even the smartest investors who right now are going to be experiencing a lot of capital gains. That probably is not going to be particularly useful in solving the financial crisis.”
=======================
What clueless empty suit.
This is the most asinine statement I have heard in quite some time…typical government solves all perspective.
For the record…Billions of money was made on the short side…further, cutting capital gains spurs investment, and is not intended to erase loss…
Clearly nothing but air between his ears when it comes to markets….

Posted by: Carson Wales | October 14, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

ACORN HAS GONE TO THE LAND WHERE ALL OBAMA FRIENDS HAVE GONE.. FAIRY LAND CALLED “UNDER THE BUS”
ACORN IS NOW, UNDER THE BUS..
CLINTONS WHO HELPED HIM GET ELECTED IN CHICAGO.. ONCE UNDER THE BUS, HAD TO BE PULLED FOR EXPEDIENCY.
HIS WHITE GRANDMA . WHO SUPPOSEDLY MAKES RACIAL REMARKS –UNDER THE BUS.
JEREMIAH WRIGHT — UNDER THE BUS
AYERS– UNDER THE BUS. COUSIN OGDINGA..UNDER THE BUS
BLACK AFRICAN GRANDMA-STARVING WHILE OBAMA HAS MILLIONS–UNDER THE BUS
MICHELE OBAMA -NOT YET UNDER THE BUS.. COMING SOON.
OBAMA IS FOR OBAMA AND NOBODY ELSE
LETS FEED HIM HIS OWN MEDECINE AND THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS ON NOV 4TH.
OBAMA -UNDER THE BUS.

Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | October 14, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

ACORN is a non-issue.
It’s not voter fraud until they show up and try to cast a vote. It boils down to people trying to get paid for signing up more voters. You people make a mountain out of a friggin mole hill. Now, the real fraud occurred in 2004 when Bush stole the election for Kerry and in 2000 from Gore.
Acorn has been around for decades…. good organization

Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 14, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

This situation is extremely serious and significant steps must be taken immediately to prevent voter fraud in this and future elections. I believe that the November election should even be postponed for a month so all of the thousands and thousands of fraudulent registrations can be identified and discarded. In addition, all write-in ballots have to be checked out to make sure that the voter exists and that he/she does not vote again on election day. Further, all people that have committed fraud must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Finally, all government funding of ACORN has to be immediately ceased and this criminal outfit and all of its players have to be permanantly barred from collecting voter registrations ever again. Voter registration is a government function and it should not be permitted by private biased organisations. And, by the way, why does the government fund ACORN to begin with, considering that they endorse candidates. Priests, Rabbis, and Pastors can’t endorse candidates without losing their tax exemption. Why is ACORN getting tax payer dollars to go around and tell the homeless to vote for Obama!!!

Posted by: Saul | October 14, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Barack Obama, the coolest Presidential candidate, ever. When questioned about his relationship with William Ayers, his response? Just “distrations.” When the credit markets fell through and John McCain left the campaign trail to return to Washington to forge a compromise and shore up the credit market, Barack Obama’s response? Stay on the campaign trail, do nothing, phone it in, and call John McCain “erratic” for actually doing something. Now that there’s widespread electoral fraud perpetrated by ACORN, what’s Barack Obama’s response? once again, “distractions.” Barack Obama: cool? yes. Ready to lead? no.

Posted by: Obamacrat for McCain | October 14, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

ACORN IS a problem. They’ve already noted voters registered with ACORN who tried to vote in Ohio without proper residency proof. HOWEVER, beware, that’s NOT your major problem.
POLLS are generated based on voter registration. Weighted according to Dem, REPUB, Idies, and the weight going to DEM voters is way too high based on those FALSE registrations.
SO for those who believe Obama is ahead, keep believing.
I like it.
As for Obama’s assertions that he doesn’t need ACORN, more hogwash just like all of the other things he didn’t know or didn’t need.
Can you say CON MAN?

Posted by: Brenda | October 14, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Uh oh, Jersey Joe is whining and crying about 2000… Will you people please just get a clue… The reason Algore lost the election in 2000 was because he was such a phony, he couldn’t even win his home state—Tennessee…. I can proudly say that I was one of the MANY wise Tennesseans who kept that creep out of the White House… Now, do you finally have a clue??? This ACORN issue is a REAL problem… Barack Obama will NOT steal this election….

Posted by: Delaware Vol | October 14, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

Quoting Lydia: I love Obama’s logic and his ability to think ahead whether it is about the economy or foreign policy. He has all the qualities we could wish for in a leader. Calm under fire, detailed policies, (they are all on his website, some commenters have complained Obama gives no details in his ads. If any politician’s details fits in a 60 second ad there would be no real substance!) his faith in all of us to bring this country around and his connection to real people. His smile is genuine as he meets people; it is the same one you see him give to his daughters. I also love the fact they are not dragging their children around to many events but keeping their home life as normal as possible. The way someone parents, whether they think through what is best for the child, says a lot about the kind of leader they will be. Obama has my vote.” Um let me get this right – you will vote for him because you like his “logic”, his smile, the way he treats his kids, the fact that he actually has policies, he has “faith” and he “connects” with people, and he can “think ahead” – whatever that means. Sounds like he makes you feel good. It takes more than that to get my vote.

Posted by: Granna 2 3 | October 14, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

Just words….. Just speeches…. Just distrations……

Posted by: Delaware Vol | October 14, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

It’s all smoke and mirrors…
Obama is innocent. ACORN registers voters, it doesn’t buy their vote.
You people are desperatate as hell and its not working….lol

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 14, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

I guess ACORN is also answering the pollster calls…right? ACORN is why McCain is kicking McCain’s…. The Repub Party does this every four years. They point to REGISTRATION froud and shamelessly call it VOTER fraud. Not gonna work. They had better start paying attention to issue that people care about…or are they already prepared to concede now? If so, just do it and get it over with.

Posted by: Rick | October 14, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Obama is very, very guileful.

Posted by: Sandra | October 14, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

funny how some people will think that Obama would be so stupid as to do something that their tiny little intellects could comprehend. i’m tempted to say what’s good for the goose (GWB, JR) is just as good for the gander (Obama).
i too, at one time had a ton of respect for John McCain. even as a democrat, in his first two campaigns. HOWEVER, in securing the republican nomination he’s had to make compromises and concessions in order to keep a strong and unified political base. only business as usual. i sure that Obama will have to do the same.” POLITICS MAKE FOR STRANGE BEDFELLOWS.” (B. FRANKLIN).
voter fraud is a touchy issue especially for the disenfranchised and disillusioned. i want to believe in the fundamental creed of this nation. THAT I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE THE ONE THAT “I” BELIEVE IS BEST SUITED TO GUIDE THIS ONCE PROUD NATION BACK TO IT’S ORIGINAL MANDATE.
but when i see a proud and honorable man such as John McCain make deals with those he fought against in the past (SPECIAL INTERESTS; LOBBYISTS; THE OLD BOY NETWORK;) and reduce his campaign to cheap theatrics (C’MON SARAH PALIN?!?); mud-slinging (AYERS WAS A TENURED FACULTY MEMBER OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO WHEN OBAMA WORKED WITH HIM ON COMMUNITY BASED PROJECTS DESIGNED TO ASSIST THOSE IN NEED; IE: POOR PEOPLE.).
while i can agree that full disclosure by BOTH candidates (WELL, ALL CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR ANY GOVERNMENT OFFICE) is important what just as important is to NOT use KARL ROVE-IAN tactics in order to win an election. and YES, this goes for Obama, as well. but unfortunately this POLLYANNA, THE GLASS IS HALF FULL, LOOKING AT THE WORLD THROUGH ROSE COLORED GLASSES, view will be most likely ridiculed by those that read this posting. SHAME ON US ALL FOR THAT…

Posted by: nolan | October 14, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

The real question is when Obama wins the election, as with each passing day this seems more certain, how will he go about bringing in at least some of that 40+ percent of those who will vote for McCain, many of whom have been persuaded of the worst about him. Certainly, he will be better for them than they expect, and far better for them than McCain would be for Obama voters who clearly will make up the majority of voting Americans. However, as even he points out, we are in deep soup, and it will take a commitment on a large part of our citizenry to move forward in the upcoming years. If all that remains is a completely resistant hate machine on the right, it will be hard to get much done.

Posted by: CitizenE | October 14, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

The lunatic fringe has even tried to blame Acorn for the world economic meltdown. As a distraction, Acorn ranks right up there with Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, William Ayers, and lipstick on pigs.
I hope that the right is as concerned with ensuring that all registered voters get to vote and that all votes get counted as they are with bad registrations that will never result in any actual votes.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | October 14, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Famous Community Organizers …… Saul Alinsky (socialist, invented modern community organizing) ….. Frank Marshall Davis (member of Communist Party USA, Stalinist, mentor to Barack Obama during Obama’s teen years) … wild Bill Ayers (communist, terrorist, propagandist, sexual deviate, close friend of Barack Obama) … Reverend Al (fat leftist idiot) … Barack Obama (socialist, voter fraud expert, former coke head) … What a cast of characters!!!!!

Posted by: Renny | October 14, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Jake-look at the comments/ I’ve read through about 60 so far and it stands 58-2 against Obama. Now, that I’ve said that-I know it’s not scientific, but I simply don’t know where Obama’s lead in the polls is coming from. Do they call people only in NYC or DC? I know of no one who is voting for Obama-there are no yard signs or posters anywhere, but he is running commercials locally. I live in the reddest state of Texas, folks-if Obama wastes his money here, he won’t be on the middle class’s side if in office which is a non sequitor because the only way he would win Texas would be by voter fraud. Again, most of our Acorns fall off trees-aw…NUTS!

Posted by: glenda | October 14, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Obama is not even in office and he is involved in scandal.
The mood among democrats is to beat the daylights out of anyone who disagrees.
Obama is well on his way to setting up the facist regime his buddy Ayers has dreamed of.

Posted by: light headed Joe | October 14, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

I have a question. Why did Obama give ACORN $832,000 if he doesn’t need their help?

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Brenda: “POLLS are generated based on voter registration.”
No, they’re not. I’m curious. Did you:
a) Research how the polls are actually done, but somehow reach an incorrect conclusion
b) Read that on some blog somewhere and assume it’s true because you wanted it to be true
c) Make it up yourself
And Glenda: you can’t count.

Posted by: Aengil | October 14, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

What is with these comments? Do people have no sense of shame attaching these puerile, drive-by statements to a story about a balanced and considered press conference by Barack Obama. Obama explains the tenuousness of his ACORN connection, and credits McCain for his good ideas while criticizing the bad ones. He’s cogent, coherent, and even generous.
I mean, if there was ever an illustration of the principle that elevating the discourse doesn’t happen overnight, THIS COMMENT BOARD IS IT!

Posted by: MarkC | October 14, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Light-headed Joe – I see how you got your name.
Palin and McCain are involved in much bigger scandals “already” and they will never be in office…. teeeheee

Posted by: Lucky Lucy | October 14, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

@glenda:
Why is Obama ahead because the number of comments here are against him? Are you serious? Barak Obama speaks very eloquently for himself, but no matter how honest and forthright he is, no matter how many articles are written, or investigative journalists prove the lies are lies, you won’t believe.
Glenda, if you really want to hear the truth about Obama, you seriously need to stop watching Faux News. They are LYING TO YOU!

Posted by: I'll vote for "That one!" | October 14, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Forget Ayers and Acorn — McCain and Palin are big time liars. The American public sees it and that’s why they are behind in the polls.

Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 14, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Imagine that, Barack Obama took unscreened, unscripted questions from the free press today.
I ask, once again, when will Sarah Palin going to do this?

Posted by: Pacific moderate | October 14, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Besides this whole ACORN line is just the republicans creating a scenario wherein they can freely suppress the vote.
Not going to happen this year, folks, so take your medicine and have a seat. We’ll have the country up and running again in no time. Then after that, subpoenas.

Posted by: I'll vote for "That one!" | October 14, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Thanks unpoliticallycorrect2008
Also, all, I wonder if Obama knows that lawyers call words like “clear”…”conclusory”
That means when you say something is “clear” you are really saying you don’t have a reasoning for it and are just trying to trump up your position.
I can’t WAIT to hear Obama saying how everything is “perfectly clear” when he says soemething and everyone else just doesn’t get it.
Also, I hate fake deep voices…I know a ton of people who do it on purpose. I am starting to think Obama is a deepener…all it takes is a little relaxation of the vocal chords…voila, instant “authoritative” voice…
Too bad a lot of people fall for it.

Posted by: Wade | October 14, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Yeah, people Aengil has a point… do you have no sense of shame asking questions about a candidate that has paid 832k to ACORN, which is now accused of voter registration fraud in at least 5 states?? Fraud is fraud and I sure hope they knew the rules going in. Do you have no shame wondering why a candidate consistently denies associations with ex-cons, slumlords, American terrorists, and radical ministers? You should be ashamed of yourselves for these drive-by statements! After all, none of it could possibly be true because only the bad stuff you read about McCain is true!! lol

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

MarkC – It’s too bad that Obama says one thing… All of his words just flowing together and it all sounds wonderful and good… but then those darn background checks. They’ll getcha every time.

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Oh you poor McCain trolls. It’s simply a riot watching you throw out the buzz word of the day, and you don’t even know what it really means. It’s a little peculiar too. I mean, why are the GOP surrogates so hell bent on this Acorn/vote fraud thing?
Because they know within their own guts, that not only will McCain lose, but the GOP stands to lose big time around the country in Senate and House races.
So they are already with their excuses, which do not include anything real like Palin being a complete joke, or crusty McCain not having any message discipline, or that he changes his ideas every 24 hours.
No, they seek to blame poor nonwhite voters, just like they tried to blame poor non white people as the reason the housing bubble burst. Have they NO sense of shame at all? to the GOP operatives, lying through your teeth is just another day at the office, hoping their audience is dumb enough to believe it which most of them will.

Posted by: Rockets go BANG | October 14, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Oh you poor Obama trolls. It’s simply a riot watching you throw out the buzz word of the day “erratic” being the latest, and you don’t even know what it really means. It’s a little peculiar too. I mean, why are the Dem surrogates so hell bent on this Palin troopergate thing?
Because they know within their own guts, that not only will Obama lose, but the Dems stand to lose big time around the country in Senate and House races.
So they are already with their excuses, which do not include anything real like Obama being a complete joke, or crusty Biden not having any message discipline, or that he changes his gaffes every 24 hours.
No, they seek to blame wealthy elite voters, just like they tried to blame wealthy elite people as the reason the housing bubble burst. Have they NO sense of shame at all? to the Dem operatives, lying through your teeth is just another day at the office, hoping their audience is dumb enough to believe it which most of them will.

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

So Rocketsgobang,
Are democrats at all at fault for anything or no? Obama ever do anything wrong, out of all the things about him out there?
Biden? Please say Biden didn’t ever do anything wrong.
The difference is, I am an independent voter and recognize McCain’s flaws (big ones, too, I know)…Palin clearly acted like a fool on Couric…McCain blew some opportunities last debate and wandered around a bit…
However, Obama’s halo is going to wear very thin over the next year or so if he is elected (and I recognize that he may be) and actually has to do something (see his work on the Annenberg challenge for the results of his efforts)…
Can you see any flaws or are the times too serious to do so?

Posted by: Wade | October 14, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

msa123:
Heh, good one.

Posted by: Wade | October 14, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

The Republican ticket was doomed from the moment Sarah Palin set her moose footed, lip stick wearing tail in the picture.

Posted by: Jersey Joe | October 14, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Obama does not need ACORN…
one day people will understand that — lol

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 14, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

Aside from Fraud: When you crowd the whole system with these bogus names it certainly clogs up the system. It also makes it VERY DIFFICULT in the case of absentee ballots, where voter I.D’s are not provided for, to make sure that the people are who they claim to be.

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

well it looks like they removed the racist post. thanks abc

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Those things will not affcet the outcome
Landslide for Obama

Posted by: LAThinker | October 14, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

So, do I have this straight? Some employees of ACORN submitted some fraudulent registrations. ACORN flags them when they catch them and the rest are caught by the system for reviewing registrations, which involves using state and federal databases. ACORN cooperates with authorities on prosecuting those that submitted the forms.
And. . . Wingnuts think that a Mickey Mouse impostor is going to swing the election.
What if Gore or Kerry had validated the paranoid conspiracy theories of the far left the way that McCain is validating the paranoid conspiracy theories of the far right? How would that have been received by the media? Not well, yet the McCain Stream Media does necon John’s bidding on this non-story just because FAUX has decided to run it 24/7. Charming. Get off the tire swing and back to reporting on the issues.

Posted by: Jeremy | October 14, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

@Frieda
Its the politically correct way to say lies.
@liberati
The Ayers myth was put to rest numerous times, by a number of publications. When talking about “corrupt and dangerous associations” I never see you people bring up Keating, ot Libby, or the Council of World Freedom.
His birth certificate has been produced, examined by two (two!) non-partisan groups and proven real. You never bitch about seeing McCain’s even though he was born out of country.
He represented ACORN, and may have contributed to them. So did John McCain.
Has Obama made mistakes? I hope so, he’s human. FISA was a mistake, and in hindsight I’m sure he regrets being on an education board, funded by republican friends of Ronald Reagan, with a stupid hippy radical.

Posted by: Xero | October 14, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

As an “undecided Republican,” I’ve done the research into ACORN and Obama is right. ACORN will not get him one single extra vote, and in fact it will probably cost him a few (in terms of the uninformed who believe the latest McCain attack line). It’s Obama’s own ground game that will make or break the election for him.

Posted by: faithnabove | October 14, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if Republicans turned in these false registrations to set up ACORN.
All McCain has left is a fake charge of vote fraud. It won’t work!

Posted by: McHooverville | October 14, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Obama’s connections to these organizations and individuals don’t show any blatant corruption or intent to subvert the voting process, etc. I believe Obama is sincere in wanting a lawful voting process.
However, I think his lack of judgment shows through. Just throw “organizing” somewhere in the title and Obama will grant an audience…he thinks they are fighting the good fight even if its not so.
Examples:
1. Ayers: “I presumed he was rehabilitated…”
2. Wright “that’s not the Wright I know..?”
3. ACORN…its not their fault…
He gives left-wingers a huge benefit of the doubt…comes back to bite him every time. He may indeed win (cross fingers, no)…please keep groups like ACORN away from the tax $ please.
If he wins, it will be our job to criticize him with all these “distractions.”

Posted by: Wade | October 14, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

Well said, Wade

Posted by: msa123 | October 14, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

I lived in Alaska for 25 years and the Alaska Indedpendence Party has been around a very long time. It was formed after statehood because some residents were ticked off because less than 1% of Alaska land was directed to be owned by individuals. The land there was and is owned by the federal, state, and boroughs, the military and native tribes. I even attended a meeting or two and did not find them very controvorsial or have much power. There were business, political and individuals there during an election period. Most people wanted the USA government to recognize Alaska’s need for more money for roads, schools, etc.
The US government in Washington gets 4 times as many dollars from sales of resources from Alaska land as is sent back to support Alaska except for the military. In other words, Alaskans are getting shortchanged since statehood. Those blasting the AIP knows little or nothing but is trying to black list the Palins. My kids at the Anchorage schools did not have enough text book–several kids had to share the same books during the 1970s. Federal dollars sent to military kids schools was being sent to rural area schools. I was a school room volunteer for two years.

Posted by: Mary | October 14, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Let’s get this straight. ACORN does not work for Obama. They are a non-profit agency that pays workers to get people registered and they have had some workers just take names out of phonebooks, etc. to get money. Registration fraud does not mean voter fraud. Mickey Mouse is not coming to the polls to vote. They just tricked ACORN out of some money.
Here is what Obama has said.
“My relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward. It’s probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the U.S. Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the “motor voter” law, to make sure that people could go to DMVs and driver’s license facilities to get registered. It wasn’t being implemented. That was my relationship, and is my relationship to ACORN. THEY ARE NOT ADVISING OUR CAMPAIGN,” Obama has said. “We’ve got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don’t need ACORN’s help.”
“This isn’t a situation where there’s actually people who are going to try to vote because these are phony names. ..Let’s just make sure everybody is voting, everybody’s registered. Let’s make sure that everybody’s doing it in a lawful way.”

Posted by: jefflz | October 14, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Why do Republicans have such a hard time with poor people voting?

Posted by: Flash Override | October 14, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Ayers.
Trinity United.
ACORN.
Obama is “guilty by participation” in all cases.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: OxyCon | October 14, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Hey flash drive, it’s not that Republicans don’t want poor people to vote… We just don’t want dead people and cartoon characters to “vote”…. Coincidentally, that is EXACTLY one of the MANY charges against Acorn members, et al…

Posted by: delaware Vol | October 14, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Obama’s blind ambition and results of his leadership guidance. Remember, Senator Barack Obama has problems with speaking the truth.
America has become a nation where major corporations have to train its employee’s basic human aspects like respect and ethics. Most Americans know that Hollywood and liberals are responsible for taking away decency and replaces morality with immoral or vulgar antics. But at fault are the few selfish politicians like Senator Barack Obama whose ego and blind ambition is allowed to grow with no accountability from the media or political peers. Especially when the media gives such ambitious individuals an endless amount of free press.
For example, today Rev. Jesse Jackson suggested that Sen. Obama would not put Israeli interest first (CNN, 15 Oct 08). Yet Fox News today reported (i.e., showed tapes interviews) that Sen. Obama has hired Jewish college students and pays them $12 an hour to go to Florida and other critical states trying to change their grandparents and other senior citizens minds to vote for Obama. But this is nothing for a politician that became ACORN’s their primary trainer and was credited converting traditional education systems to social cultures. It was ACORN that is credited with the recent subprime mortgage practices that caused a $700 billion bailout that would have benefited ACORN with $140 billion had Senator John McCain not returned to Washington thanks to Sen. Obama and his fellow Democrats.
This week Americans learned that Sen. Obama hired ACORN for $800,000 to help him with his election and not to help register minorities. In recent times, ACORN has used fake names, dead voters, voters that are in prison and ACORN employees that are convicted convicts, imaginary people including “Fruto Boy Crispila”, and countless other cases with duplicate voter registrations. ACORN added to the two individuals convicted last year with voter registration fraud and added additional employees that are being investigated in 12 states with voter registration fraud. The Nevada and Carolina raids found that ACORN falsely registered the entire Dallas Cowboys football team although they are not Nevada residents. ACORNs illegal activities have shown up in Missouri, Connecticut, Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana and other states with the list growing. In Indianapolis alone, the voter fraud benefited Barack Obama when a hundred and five percent of the population was registered by ACORN.

Posted by: Dr Rene | October 14, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Let’s see:
Trooper Gate (abuse of power)
AIP
No experience
No College Transcript
CAN WE TRUST PALIN???

Posted by: Lucky Lucy | October 14, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

A distraction, says Obama. Crack me up. That’s always his first response when something he does not want to have to explain to the American public comes up– like Rev. Wright, William Ayers, flag pins that reappear on his lapel in time for the general campaign, his home purchase details, the list goes on and on. What a lot of distractions. Ever notice that his “distraction” statement is his own attempt at distracting us from asking about these things? He is a jujitsu master, it seems.

Posted by: moderate | October 14, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

That’s not the Rev. Wright I knew…
That’s not the Michael Pfleger I knew…
That’s not the Bill Ayers I knew…
That’s not the Tony Rezko I knew…
That’s not the ACORN I knew…
What next?
That’s not the Certification of Live Birth I knew…
Another note, once again it’s about ME, ME, ME…he NEVER mentioned how our tax dollars are being wasted sifting through this ACORN mess.

Posted by: ugh | October 14, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

Flash drive, I encourage poor people to vote. Wish more of them voted in their own self-interest, but different strokes… I have a problem with people who use poor people’s right to vote as an excuse to try to undermine the integrity of the voting system by voter registration fraud and voter fraud. I have seen how much grief Georgia is getting for having the audacity to say that every voter must show identification to vote– how controversial could that possibly be, right? But I’m continually told by Democrats that this is an unfair burden that falls disproportionately on the poor and people of color, which I find incredibly patronizing. And Georgia even gives out free id cards for those who do not have drivers license or other approved photo id. Even so, the law is being fought in the courts. Go figure.

Posted by: moderate | October 14, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Maybe if the Republicans hadn’t spent all their money defending their felonious phone jamming schemes they might have come out better in this election.

Posted by: Flash Override | October 14, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

The saddest thing to me, is that it’s still three weeks until Election Day and this election is ALREADY IN THE COURTS!!
The Sixth Circuit Court late today overturned the Order of its lower Court, and now the Democratic Secretary of State in Ohio, DOES have to verify EACH new absentee ballot voter name and address before they are allowed to be counted.
This election is already in the Courts, and I have a feeling this is just the beginning of the litigation.

Posted by: Lee | October 14, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Obviously OBAMA does not need ACORN. He can perpetrate his OWN FRAUD!
Why are people so naive about Obama? Can you name me any other candidate who has SO MANY questionable and shady associations as Obama does?
Be very very scared of this man.

Posted by: BJ | October 14, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

hypocrisy… thy name is McCain
- William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.
The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein’s government.
During the same period beginning in 1992, Timmons worked closely with the two lobbyists, Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, on a previously unreported prospective deal with the Iraqis in which they hoped to be awarded a contract to purchase and resell Iraqi oil.
Timmons, Vincent, and Park stood to share at least $45 million if the business deal went through.
- Timmons’ activities occurred in the years following the first Gulf War, when Washington considered Iraq to be a rogue enemy state and a sponsor of terrorism. His dealings on behalf of the deceased Iraqi leader stand in stark contrast to the views his current employer held at the time.

Posted by: Blue | October 14, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

This voter registration hue and cry we hear every two years (since the Civil War, anyway) always amount to nothing. It is merely an excuse for the ham-handed attempts at voter intimidation that inevitably follow them. They have a long and sordid history, and it is ultimately about attempting to suppress people’s right to vote.

Posted by: Flash Override | October 14, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

There were irregularities in registering the voters. The people hired by ACORN committed the irregularities. ACORN reported these irregularities. How is it the fault of ACORN or Obama. And if we are playing guilt by association here are some for you to consider.
1) Todd Palin, Sara Palin’s husband was a member of the seccionist group AIP.
2) McCain is pals with the convicted felon Gordon Liddy.
3) McCain has as his advisor one who lobbied for Saddam Hussein.
What do you right wing creatures have to say about this.

Posted by: feminist50 | October 14, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

BJ–I couldn’t agree with you more. It’s like talking to a bunch of bobble heads.

Posted by: True American | October 14, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

Michelle Geissler–Thanks for the info. It’s very scary to think of Obama as prez when he has no military experience and seems to not even like our military considering the lies he’s told about them attacking villages.
Also scary is that he seems to have sympathy for the extremist islamic terror groups who have endorsed his presidency.

Posted by: True American | October 15, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

the ACORN thiong isnt as simple as the Obama people say and Obama does have issues to be worked out before he can be eldcted

Posted by: stang | October 15, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

True American: I have a question? What kind of military experience did Bush have?

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 15, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

There are 2 dozen voter registration groups funded by Democrats. ACORN is nothing compared to the others that include the NAACP – which Obama donated to as well.
You people are silly. OBAMA does not need ACORN…
get a life!

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 15, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Listen, the NAACP and Labor Unions also registered tons of voters for OBAMA. He has contributed money to all these organizations. All together there are about 25 voter registration groups that are in the bag for Democrats.
You people are chasing a wild rabbit with ACORN…
good luck!!

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 15, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Oh man, you are missing half the story – in states with motor-voter there are TONS of duplicates. And this has been going on since 1993. Think of all the possible duplicate votes… which you think we would know about if these case went anywhere, which they don’t.
I’m also thrilled to learn the in some states the registration system is so tight that we actually know if a voter was “registered by ACORN” or not. I mean, I know that registrar’s books are numbered and audited, but I didn’t realized that we could review who registered someone so dang quickly.
I say we have separate lines at the polls. One of ACORN registered voters, and one for the rest of us.

Posted by: Pup | October 15, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

There are a lot of things that i dislike about Obama, but I just love his straightforward attitude when he talks to people. He actually answers the question (both parts of it), explains the whole problem in simple terms, doesn’t try to change the subject.
I can only imagine McCain’s answer if the roles had been reversed. Something like “These accusations are outrageous. Voters know that I have always fought for our country. The Obama campaign is trying to prevent decent American people from choosing their next leader.”

Posted by: nadja | October 15, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am

Just like with Fannie, the republicans go after anybody that they perceive helps minorities. ACORN is small potatoes compared to the numerous grass-roots, community activists and plain folk encouraging people to participate in the election. This is so not rocket-science! It’s ONE VOTE, not one registration.

Posted by: Common Sense | October 15, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

I wish some people can just take some minutes out of there busy schedules to get facts.
Know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
The modus operandi of ACORN are:
1. Recruit people for voters registration drives.
2. Set targets for the canvassers, as they are paid according to number of Voters they are able to register.
In order for the Canvassers to maximize their income, they fill the forms with fictitious names and they get paid.
You will see from the simple analysis above that ACORN as an Organization does not engage in Fraud.
But Americans that are engaged by ACORN perpetrates the Fraud on ACORN to get extra pay.
Here ACORN loses. Because it pays these canvassers for Jobs not done.
These fictitious names are not real People resident in such districts and hence, they are not enfranchise since they can not vote.
As an analogy, a real person, Dwight Aaron resident in Dover can not come to Ohio on the day of voting to vote despite having his name on the voters reg. list in Toledo.
Hence, the Candidates need not fear because it is ACORN that loses money to the smart alec for work paid for but not done.
The two Campaigns know this as a fact. Any of the Campign shouting blue-murder is only trying to take undue advantage of the ignorance of the recipients of such information

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | October 15, 2008, 4:56 am 4:56 am

Concerned in OH: “NY Post is reporting that some ACORN “voter” tried to vote in OH.”
No they’re not. From the article:
“… he breezed into Ohio election offices – the state allows early voting for president – reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said.”
That vote is nothing to do with ACORN. That’s just some idiot, who reregistered not with ACORN, but in the election office, as the article says.

Posted by: Aengil | October 15, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am

There’s a lot of low-resolution thinking going on here. “ACORN has been defrauded” isn’t the same as “ACORN has committed fraud.” If you can’t see the difference, I suggest you deregister yourself because you obviously have no capacity for rational thought.
Of however many invalid registrations were paid for by ACORN, how many were submitted without flagging by ACORN? (Please note, ACORN did not have the option of throwing away registrations they thought were questionable, because the forms are numbered and must be accounted for.)
Of that small number, how many went undetected by the Registrar of Voters? Of those, how many are the least bit likely to result in actual invalid votes being cast? Because that would require someone to know about the false reg. and show up on election day.
What kind of vast zombie army do you think Obama has under his nefarious telepathic command? Isn’t this something out of some late-late-night sci fi flick? What kind of no-lobes think this actually happens in reality?

Posted by: Fingal | October 15, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

“I will tell you that nobody one really has capital gains right now – so if the idea is the cut capital gains taxes, when I don’t know anybody, even the smartest investors who right now are going to be experiencing a lot of capital gains. That probably is not going to be particularly useful in solving the financial crisis”
Rather telling on how little Obama understands about Business… Somebody stop this man, he’s a fool that doesn’t understand basic economics!!!

Posted by: josparke | October 15, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am

Obama is assuring voters now that he doesn’t need ACORN’s help – but told them and other Community Organizations in December 2007 that once elected he would travel the country between then and Innauguration Day, meeting with COs and being sure that they have input to help shape his White House agenda.

Posted by: marylou | October 15, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

What about the $800,000 his campaign gave to ACORN?

Posted by: susie | October 15, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

It isn’t just that the Obama campaign paid ACORN $843,000 for voter registration, it is that the originally listed to the FEC that the money was for lighting, sound, staging. When caught, the said they would ammend the FEC report.

Posted by: Backgammon | October 15, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

Isn’t it funny?
The economy is in ruins, two (possibly more) wars are being waged at tremendous cost, the health care system and the education need reveiwing, and the climate isn’t getter better either.
And what do the Republicans decide should be the major issues in the presidential elections? Whether or not Obama has something to do with what could possibly be fraud by an association he has some ties with. And something about a rehabilitated university professor with whom he shared the board of an anti-poverty group and whose previous-life misdeeds he has clearly denounced.
And then they wonder why the polls go the way they go.

Posted by: Marvol | October 15, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Instead of spending your time bickering between each other maybe do a little research about the claims made and find your own truth instead of what is fed to you by the media, and the candidates. I will say that McCain has said numerous times to check their records. Obama has never said to check his.

Posted by: American | October 19, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Obama is tied to ACORN like super glue… I think a thorough INDEPENDENT investigation needs to be made immediately and not an independent investgation conducted by ACORN either… they have too many agencies under ACORN….. no one would ever know if any agency was part of them or not… This group is very corrupt and I believe the corruption runs up to the top into the oval office….. from voter fraud to corrupt mortgage lending, the list goes on and on….. Obama tells them he needs their help but he tells us now that he doesn’t. He calls them his boots on the ground…. what is that???? HIS military?????? Oh yeah, a THOROUGH INVESTIGATION IS NEEDED ASAP.

Posted by: Toni | September 20, 2009, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

There is noticeably a bundle to know about this. I assume you made certain nice points in features also.

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