Obama on Attacking Keating Attacks on McCain: ‘We Don’t Throw the First Punch, But We’ll Throw the Last’
In Asheville, NC, this afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., made a statement about today’s bleak economic news, hammered Sen. John McCain’s campaign tactics, and refused to answer questions about McCain’s role in the Keating 5 scandal — which his campaign is discussing quite a bit — before getting into his car and speeding off to get some barbecue at 12 Bones Smokehouse.
"Before we go get some barbecue I want to make a statement on the economy,” Obama said.
"Obviously, we woke up this morning and saw that the markets are still in turmoil. Not only are we seeing the stock market go down, but there is still great danger of the credit markets locking up and we have seen the contagion is spreading to all parts of the globe. Europe is having some of the problems that we are having here in the states. Asia is being affected
"It is a reminder that the rescue package that was passed last week is not the end of our efforts to deal with the economy. It is just the beginning.
"I think it is very important for Secretary Paulson and Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Bernanke to move swiftly and try to restore confidence as quickly as possible to effectuate the plans, based on the authority given to them by Congress. I think it is still critical for us to move forward on an economic stimulus package that can provide people some relief from high gas prices. Food prices. Help states and local governments maintain their payrolls. I think we have to extend unemployment insurance after the statistics showing that 159,000 additional jobs were lost just last month.
"And we are going to have to then move on an aggressive plan to deal with some of the underlying structural problems in the economy, including the continuing decline in the housing market.
"Now, Sen. McCain and I have a debate tomorrow. And obviously, the American people are going to be anxious to hear from one of the two people who is going to be the next president and responsible for dealing with this economic mess and what their plans are. I was a little surprised over the last couple of days to hear Sen. McCain say — or Sen. McCain’s campaign say — that we want to turn the page on discussions about the economy and campaign, a member of Sen. McCain’s campaign saying today that if we talk about the economic crisis, we lose.
"I have got news for the McCain campaign: the American people are losing right now. They are losing their jobs. They are losing their health care. They are losing their homes and their savings. I cannot imagine anything more important to talk about than the economic crisis, and the notion that we would want to brush that aside and engage in the usual political shenanigans and smear tactics that have come to characterize too many campaigns, I think, is not what the American people are looking for. So, I am going to keep on talking about the economy. I am going to keep on talking about what we need to do to strengthen the middle class and get our credit markets settled down. I have confidence we are going to solve this problem, but we are not going to solve it with business as usual. And we need fundamental change, and that is why I am running as president. Alright. "
Obama was twice asked by the press pool, “Why did you bring up the Keating Five?” but Obama ignored the questions and got in his car.
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He wasn’t so reticent on the "Tom Joyner Morning Show," when the host asked about the McCain-Palin campaign’s attack on him for "palling around with terrorists," namely former Weather Underground member William Ayers, currently an education professor in Chicago.
"First of all, just the facts," Obama told Joyner. "Mr. Ayers is somebody who lives in Chicago, he is a professor at the University of Chicago — University of Illinois, teaches education, and he engaged in these despicable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old. I served on a board with him, and so now, they are trying to use this as guilt by association. And as you’ve said, they explicitly stated what they want to do is to change the topic, because they don’t want to talk about the economy and the failed policies of the last eight years. So, I think the American people deserve better. I think they deserve a last four weeks that talks about the economic crisis, about the 159 jobs that were lost –- 159,000 jobs that were lost just last week — last month.
"But if John McCain wants to have a character debate, then I am happy to have that debate, because Mr. McCain’s record, despite him calling himself a maverick, actually shows that he is continually somebody who relies on lobbyists for big oil, big corporations, and that he makes decisions oftentimes based on what these lobbyists tell him to do. And that, I think, is going to be a lot more relevant to the American people than what somebody — who is tangentially related to me — did when I was 8 years old."
Joyner noted that the Obama campaign launched a Web site, keatingeconomics.com, going after McCain for his role in the S&L crisis of the late 1980s/early 1990s, and his role in the Keating Five scandal. "Of course, Charles Keating was a savings and loan guy out of Arizona," Joyner said. "Doesn’t this put you in the position of going negative, taking away your message of running a different kind of campaign?"
Said Obama: "One of the things we’ve done during this campaign: we don’t throw the first punch, but we’ll throw the last. Because if the American people don’t get the information that is relevant about these candidates and, instead, in the last four weeks, all they are hearing about are smears and Swift Boat tactics, that can have an impact on the election. We have seen it before, and this election is too important to be sitting on the sidelines. If Sen. McCain wants to focus on the issues, then that is what we focus on. But if Sen. McCain wants to have a character debate, that is one that we’re willing to have."
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At 12 Bones Smokehouse, he ordered takeout for his campaign staff: Brisket, 2 racks of ribs, pulled pork, a barbecue platter, a veggie platter, six sweet teas, corn pudding, macaroni and cheese, and a double order of collards.
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Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Problem with this angle is that it now opens up Obama as fair gamer to Rev. Wright attacks from McCain and Palin. Just look at the Kristol column in today’s NYT.
Posted by: matt | October 6, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Yes, we need another economic stimulus package. Let’s take another $700 billion from the taxpayers to turn around and hand out to the taxpayers. How do we do it? Why, we’ll simply charge it!
Irresponsible credit got us in this mess to begin with, and our Democratic leaders – headed by Obama – want to pile more credit onto our national debt to get us out of it.
The lunatics are truly running the asylum!
And don’t forget – just as the housing mess was caused by giving home loans to the least credit-worthy – the economic stimulus package goes even to those who don’t pay a penny of tax. Free money – ya gotta love it!
Posted by: marylou | October 6, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Hannity’s little insanity army will need to get a life in about 30 days!
Posted by: jim | October 6, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
‘We Don’t Throw the First Punch, But We’ll Throw the Last’
More threats and Chicago style thuggery. *yawn*
Obama chose to associate with Bill Ayers as an ADULT. This either shows bad judgement or “like minds”. Neither of these are good.
Posted by: Fallon | October 6, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
What about Obama and the $20 million HUD roject in Chicago now in question and he’s concerned about the economy?
Posted by: fp | October 6, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
McCain’s campaign can hardly even throw a punch. They have the pitbull with lipstick out there talking trash. That’s about it.
What’s one substantial idea from the McCain platform to deal with any of our current problems? They have nothing to say on the issues.
Palin doesn’t know enough to convince anyone who doesn’t already support Bush. The GOP should just retool their slogan: Love Bush? Then you’ll love Palin. And also, please vote for that old guy that you see in the background of the photos sometimes. He’s kind of OK.
Posted by: Rocky | October 6, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Yesterday the RNC was demanding that FEC investigate Obama’s Campaign contributions. Today we have this:
The FEC sent a letter to Sen. John McCain’s campaign treasurer Sept. 30 demanding the candidate turn over more information about “contributions that appear to exceed the limits.”
Hmmm………….
The letter is accompanied by a nine-page list showing scores of overages from McCain’s August campaign finance report, including nearly $13,000 from Texas rancher Ray R. Barrett Jr.; $9,200 from an Iraqi security consultant, H. Carter Andress; and $5,000 from Joseph F. Davolio, an executive at a major national liquor, beer, and wine distributor.
“Please inform the Commission of your corrective action immediately in writing and provide photocopies of any refund checks and/or letters reattributing or redesignating the contributions in question,” the letter from the FEC’s senior campaign finance analyst, Leah S. Palmer, says. “The acceptance of excessive contributions is a serious problem.”
Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Since Ayers is in the forefront now, I thought I’d post some of the info I gathered on his relationship with Obama. Here it is:
In 1985 the Woods foundation gave a $25,000 grant to the Developing Communities Project (aka the “DCP”), which hired Obama, at 24, as an organizer on Chicago’s economically depressed South Side.” The Woods Fund was founded by the Woods family which owned the Illinois-based Sahara Coal Company, a major supplier of coal from its mines to major Illinois power companies. Commonwealth Edison, the giant Chicago-based electric power company was headed by Thomas Ayers, father of Bill Ayers.
Ayers’ wife, Bernadette Dorn in the late 80s worked in the law firm Sidley & Austin at the same time as Michelle Obama (then Robinson). In 1989 Obama interned at Sidley&Austen as an associate. (Sidley&Austin was also the law firm used by Tom Ayers, Bill’s father).
So, in 1995 Ayers hires Obama , supposedly unknown to him, 3 years out of law school, to Chair the $50 Million Annenberg Challenge, an education non-profit. The Challenge was an arm of Ayers Chicago School Reform Collaborative. The money was to be used by Ayers and co. to bolster the radical Local School Councils reform project that Ayers and Obama had championed back in 1988 through the ABCs.
The Annenberg Challenge was a failure. Obama stepped down as chair in 1999, but remained on the board. However, during the time with the Challenge, Ayers and Obama sat on panels together , attended speaking engagements, etc.
Obama and Ayers also at that time sat together on the Woods Fund. A non-profit which awarded building grants. One of the grants awarded was to Alison Davis of Davis/Miner lawfirm where Obama worked. Instead of abstaining, Obama voted to approve a $1 million grant to Davis. Davis was also in building ventures with Rezko (convicted felon) at that time.
Grants from the Woods Fund were also provided to the Arab American Action Network(AAAN). The AAAN was headed by Rashid Khalidi . Khalidi previously worked for the PLO and hosted a fund raiser for Obama’s US Senate bid. They went out to dinner , with their wives, together and Michelle Obama attended a party some months ago in honor of the wedding of Khalidi’s daughter. The Bill Ayers’ were also in attendance.
Khalidi said he supports Obama for President “ because he is the only candidate who has expressed sympathy for the Palestinian cause.” Khalidi also lauded Obama for “saying he supports talks with Iran.”
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
LOL! now get this, today Axelrod claimed that Obama didnt’ know about Ayers when he first met him!
Can you believe this?
First, he was a just a guy in the neighborhood. Then, their kids went to school together (even though Ayers kids are 20 years older than Obamas’). Now, Obama didn’t even know about Ayers? And even after he supposedly knew, he still maintained contact with him?
Does Obama think that Americans are just plain stupid? Well, maybe his supporters will listen to every lie he says.
LIES, LIES, LIES!!!
Facts: Obama clearly knew Ayers before he was selected to chair the Annenberg challenge.
I ask you, good voter: How many terrorists have you known in your life? And, of all the people that Obmaa could have associated with, why a terrorist?
Either Obama was just plain stupid for not knowing about Ayers, or else, he is lying, and has poor judgment, or is greedy, or is truly radical and hates America.
Either way, would you trust someone like that with your money?
You see how relevant this is to our economy?
Patriots, fight with me, say NO to the Obama trash, he is disgusting!
Posted by: liberati | October 6, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Nobody cares about Rev wright and Bill Ayres. Those are old news. Who cares when they just lost about 10-20 percent of their 401K? Those that care about such trivial issues will not make a difference in this election and the polls are reflecting that already.
Posted by: james | October 6, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
McCain is a DISGRACE
Posted by: karen miller | October 6, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Desperate McMad and McSad
maveric McLiers- both are laugh of the stock – in America and around the world-
McWolf & McSheWolf
McIdiot & McMoran
McStink & McStinker
Posted by: Connie | October 6, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Yesterday the RNC was demanding that FEC investigate Obama’s Campaign contributions. Today we have this:
The FEC sent a letter to Sen. Obama’s campaign treasurer Sept. 30 demanding the candidate turn over more information about “contributions that appear to exceed the limits.”
Hmmm………….
The letter is accompanied by a nine-page list showing scores of overages from Obamas August campaign finance report, including nearly $13,000 from Texas rancher Ray R. Barrett Jr.; $9,200 from an Iraqi security consultant, H. Carter Andress; and $5,000 from Joseph F. Davolio, an executive at a major national liquor, beer, and wine distributor.
“Please inform the Commission of your corrective action immediately in writing and provide photocopies of any refund checks and/or letters reattributing or redesignating the contributions in question,” the letter from the FEC’s senior campaign finance analyst, Leah S. Palmer, says. “The acceptance of excessive contributions is a serious problem.”
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
“But if John McCain wants to have a character debate then I am happy to have that debate”
How many times has Obama lied about being happy to debate people??????
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Mccain picked Palin for VP to not only try to win Hillary supporters (WOMAN)backfired. no Hillary women supporter will ever support that lying fraud PALIN,He also picked her to do his dirty work to smear and lie HES USING HER. REAL NASTY MCSHAME once again you show you have no respect for woman and you call yourself a hero lol your hiding behind a woman and her empty skirt she is clueless about what is going on in this country REAL PITIFUL MCCAIN COUNTRY FIRST MY A$$
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
HP BOSTON DO YOU HAVE A JOB?
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
You go after Wright, you open yourself up to… troopergate.. rev. hagee… leaving your sick wife for a younger, richer woman…. being part of the alaskan seccesionist movement…. abuse of power…. not wanting equal pay for both sexes.
am i missing anything?
Posted by: make it known | October 6, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
EVERYBODY cares about Rev wright and Bill Ayres. Those are old news. Who cares EVERYBODY when they just lost about 10-20 percent of their 401K? EVERYBODY cares about such trivial issues will not make a difference in this election and the polls are reflecting BS!
EVERYBODY!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Let me gueess -Obama ordered the veggie platter. Watching his figure for tomorrow night.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
you will see McGrumpy’s blood boil tomorrow with the documentary about keating 5 today.
Posted by: make it known | October 6, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. Is it too late to draft Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Jim | October 6, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
am i missing anything?
Posted by: make it known | Oct 6, 2008 2:31:07 PM
Yes you are missing it all! WAKE UP! FEEL THE EARTH MOVE UNDER AMERICA!!!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
“At 12 Bones Smokehouse he ordered take out for his campaign staff: Brisket, 2 racks of ribs, pulled pork, a barbecue platter, a veggie platter, 6 sweet teas, corn pudding, macaroni and cheese, and a double order of collards.”
That explains why he won’t release his medical records. His bad cholesterol count must be stratospheric. That’s THE heart attack diet.
Posted by: len | October 6, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Markets down 700 and McCain’s only plan is to discuss what happened while Obama was 8.
Gallup has Obama increasing his lead to 8 as people tire of the Bush-McCain economy.
Posted by: bubba | October 6, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Two crooks arguing about who gets to steal more from you over the next few years! This country is lost.
Posted by: hmn | October 6, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Exactly.
McCain started this so Obama will end this.
Posted by: Chrissy | October 6, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
It’s the ECONOMY STUPID !
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Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?
We wont.
Posted by: PulSamsara | October 6, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
That’s exactly right, the last punch.
McCain is going down and the last minute desperation attacks only serve to dishonor him.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 6, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
FINALLY
A DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE THAT CAN FIGHT BACK
FINALLY
Posted by: Vanessa | October 6, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
“It’s a dangerous road, but we have no choice,” a top McCain strategist told the New York Daily News. “If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.”
So do Americans still think the McCain campaign gives a crap about you?
John McCain “I’ll lose my integrity before I’ll lose an election”
Posted by: Ryan C | October 6, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
“That explains why he won’t release his medical records. His bad cholesterol count must be stratospheric. That’s THE heart attack diet.”
He has released that information actually. Obama’s doctor stated that as of his last medical checkup, Obama’s cholesterol level was ’173 (normal under 200).’
Posted by: Aengil | October 6, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
McCain was A LOT closer to Keating than Obama ever was to Ayers. And, of course, there’s Phil Gramm and Rick Davis….
Posted by: Joel | October 6, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
I normally just give Obama $100.00 a month. I just sent off $250.00 because this is to important. Send what you can and if you can not just be sure to register today and vote on November 4th. Peace!
Posted by: jim | October 6, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
That nagging feeling in the pit of my stomach…what is really behind Obama was answered for me.
The fact that I could accept Obama’s explanation of Rev Wright’s fiery sermons, no flag pin, no hand over the heart during the national anthem…I rationalized all that as dirty politics led by the Clintons. I was NOT quite as quick to accept Michelle’s explanation on her comment on being “proud of America” for the “first time in her adult life”. I was NOT so accepting of Obama’s explanation of his association with the known terrorists in the Weathermen or whatever they were called. Something just didn’t feel right with either of those incidents. They carried with it more of an uneasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. I was willing to withhold judgment and let this political game play out for me. I don’t consider myself a racists…I worked hard for Obama in the primaries, contributed money and really felt he would be good for this country.
Then I read about Josh Howard, one of the Dallas Mavericks basketball players, who disrespected the Star Spangle Banner…said he didn’t have to respect it BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. It was one of Oprah’s light bulb momemts for me. Everything became crystal clear.
We are about to elect a very eloquent ANGRY BLACK MAN to lead this nation. Think about it…maybe Obama is right. Maybe we are afraid of what he stands for, his name, his deep feelings or lack of feelings for what America holds dear because maybe in the pit of our stomachs we just know something isn’t quite right.
Think about it. If that nagging feeling is with you when you go to the polls, maybe you should respect it. Look around you at who is there and make your own judgment. I will.
Posted by: I Finally Got It | October 6, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Matt…then we can open up talks about McCains paster who hates Catholics and Palins paster who is afraid fo witches, and her membership in a club which wants to withdraw Alaska out of the US, because we are all sinners in the US…
PLEASE……….
Posted by: cindyct | October 6, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
JOHN MCCAIN WOULD RATHER LOSE HIS INTEGRITY BEFORE HE LOSE THIS ELECTION!!!
Posted by: Melvin | October 6, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Now I believe McCain is the PAST and
Obama is the FUTURE.
McCain is always talking about the
past and Obama is giving his vision
where we should go.
Make your choice: PAST vs. FUTURE!
Posted by: few days to go | October 6, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
eBay to slash workforce by 1,000 more companies doing the same..
SHAME ON YOU McCain……
Posted by: james | October 6, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
FINALLY…then go vote for McCain and end up on the poor house with the witches…cause McCain will “kick th bucket” and you’ll be stuck with Palin….
Posted by: formerhillary | October 6, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
IF YOU HAVEN’T WATCHED THE KEATING VIDEO, YOU NEED TO.
ALL YOU REPUBLICANS BASHING IT NEED TO JUST WATCH THE WHOLE THING.
SAYS ALOT ABOUT JOHN MCCAINS JUDGEMENT.
Posted by: Chad | October 6, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Matt…then we can open up talks about McCains paster who hates Catholics and Palins paster who is afraid fo witches, and her membership in a club which wants to withdraw Alaska out of the US, because we are all sinners in the US…
PLEASE……….
Posted by: cindyct | Oct 6, 2008 2:41:41 PM
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LOL LOL SEE! Palin the bit bull that keeps on gettin to YA!! She has you chasing your own TAILS!!!! HA HA HA
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Senator Glenn introduces Obama at Sprinsteen free concert” needs bribes to get people to listen to this wind bag”..duh another Keating Five member on his team. Oh and the other three all DEMOCRATS . and by the way the only Republican Senator McCain was exonerated. Lets put the theives in charge of the money elect more Democrats They are doing a great job in the Senate. Wake up America Elect McCain / Palin.
Posted by: geg | October 6, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
THE STOCK MARKET IS CRASHING!
Posted by: Chrissy | October 6, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
geg..he wasn’t exonerated!!! He was chastised for BAD judgement. The other guys took the fall so he could stay in the Senate, dumpey…………
Posted by: mil | October 6, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Good — let Obama win, he will be impeached when all of these scandals come out — because they are never going to be let go — they will keep after him — he won’t have a minutes peace. Then we will get Sarah Palin — it will be sweet justice. Sarah Palin will win in 2012. GO SARAH!!!!!
Posted by: killjoy | October 6, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Yes, economy is #1 issue? But why do we have to pick Obama?
It’s very strange.
1) I don’t think Obama’s economy policy is better. He increases capital gain tax and corporate tax, those are bad for economy. We know, if we increase corporate tax, then we have to increase merchanside price, decrease employee salary and benifit, and results in more out sourcing.
2) Obama increase gov. spending, which will increase country’s deficit.
3) Obama can not keep his promise. His all proposal is just a proposal. Biden already said in the debate that, after the bailout, he can not keep the promise.
4) Obama 94% time voted along party line, do we trust this kind of palorizing leadership? Is either party definitely superior to another? No! Both parties need to work together.
5) So, the character, and record are very important for us to make decision. Obama even don’t have state senete record, what did he do? Why he claimed he has good judgement? How many judgements did he make besides so many ‘present’ votes? He didn’t change his church, didn’t change Chicago city, Illinois state, how can he change the country? He’s never a figure of ‘courage’, how come suddenly he delared CHANGE?
Posted by: golfgirlusa | October 6, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Let me see if I have this right:
During the VP debate, when Biden tied McCain to Bush, Palin cried, “Quit looking at the past.”
But now, all they can do is “look to the past” with this Ayers garbage?
Once again, Republicans are the biggest hypocrites alive.
Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
I love Governor Palin, she has you bots frothing at the mouth.
ROTFLMAO!!!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
HP Boston:
LOL LOL SEE! Palin the bit bull that keeps on gettin to YA!! She has you chasing your own TAILS!!!! HA HA HA
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Sarah is more like a junk yard dog…more bark then bit….
Let not forget Sarah Palin association’s with the radical Alaska Independence Party that wants to secede from this great country, the United States of America.
And here is a quote from Alaskan Independence Party founder Joe Voegler:
“The fires of Hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag!”
I wonder how Palin explains her husband”s verified membership in the “ALASKIAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY?” Seems she doesn”t believe in the UNITED States of America, does she??
hey Sarah, go ahead and bring up Obama’s pastor…
I’ll take an angry marine pastor over some witch doctor…
and also don’t forget McCain’s pastor(s) the one who said New Orleans desrved what it got, it was punishment from God….
OBAMA..THE ONE WITH GOOD JUDGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP!!! THE ONE WHO THINKS ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST….
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Over here in the United Kingdom we watched as once global leader drown itself with pettiness. Is this what America has become? Since when has been smart,educated a bad thing? Some said they love Palin because she is one of them in dumbness and airhead, why on earth do you want some one as stupid as you to lead you instead of more intelligent person? This is madness!!
The same people that put Bush into the white house is the same people pushing this self delusional button all over again and over here we are suffering because of your twice stupidness both in economy and in Iraq. When will American learn? Obviosly they haven’t learn anything in the last past 8 years, that all other leaders that joined Bush in his crusade had all been thrown out of power by their various nations including Britain, Spain, Australia, Poland etc.
The problem with republican party and their naive supporters is the fact that this Obama guy is clean and they don’t have anything against him, that is why they went for inexperience rubbish and it didn’t work and now any person that had said good morning to him must now be link to him.I am sure they should by now find whether Obama mum use to listen Radio Berlin during her pregnancy with Obama, therefore Barrack must be a communist. This is Hilarious!!
That means all school mates or former neighbours of Timothy Mcvey must now be considered terrotist too?
Americans deserve some pity, you guys are becoming a laughing stock of the world. Wake up people!!!
Posted by: Jon Lawrence | October 6, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
If McCain wants to go ugly, bring it on. His Keating Five involvement perfectly mirrors the current financial crisis. It shows his utter lack of credibility and trustworthiness on the defining issue of the moment.
And if he wants to make it personal, he’s opening himself up to a detailed discussion of his lifetime of womanizing. How many dozens of extramarital affairs have been documented thus far in betrayal of both of his wives? They are too numerous to count. The guy’s a philandering pig.
If I were McCain, I’d get back to the issues and quick.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | October 6, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
On the 20 year old Keating affair, McCain was recommended to be dropped from the Ethics proceedings because he did nothing wrong. But the Democratic controlled Ethic panel wanted to keep him on the hook because it would look better to have a Republican accused of wrongdoing because the other accused were 4 DEMOCRATS..”In the case of Senator McCain, there is very substantial evidence that he thought he had an understanding with Senator DeConcini’s office that certain matters would not be gone into at the meeting with (bank board) Chairman (Ed) Gray,”"Moreover, there is substantial evidence that, as a result of Senator McCain’s refusal to do certain things, he had a fallout with Mr. Keating.”But the investigation found that he was the least culpable, along with Glenn. McCain attended the meetings but did nothing afterward to stop Lincoln’s death spiral.n the end, McCain received only a mild rebuke from the Ethics Committee for exercising “poor judgment” for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating. Still, he felt tarred by the affair.”The appearance of it was wrong,” McCain said. “It’s a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do.”McCain noted that Bennett, the independent counsel, recommended that McCain and Glenn be dropped from the investigation.
Posted by: jschmidt | October 6, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Marylou, a little reading material. You need to update your blogs with a little truth… I know, it will be hard for you but please read:
Charlie Keating, the banker and anti-pornography crusader, would ultimately be convicted on 73 counts of fraud and racketeering for his role in the savings-and-loan scandal of the 1980s. That crisis, much like today’s subprime-mortgage meltdown, resulted from misbegotten banking deregulation, and ultimately left taxpayers to pick up a tab of more than $124 billion. Keating, who raised more than $100,000 for McCain’s race, lavished the first-term congressman with the kind of political favors that would make Jack Abramoff blush. McCain and his family took at least nine free trips at Keating’s expense, and vacationed nearly every year at the mogul’s estate in the Bahamas. There they would spend the days yachting and snorkeling and attending extravagant parties in a world McCain referred to as “Charlie Keating’s Shangri-La.” Keating also invited Cindy McCain and her father to invest in a real estate venture for which he promised a 26 percent return on investment. They plunked down more than $350,000.
Unfortunately, any lessons McCain learned from the Keating scandal didn’t affect his unbridled enthusiasm for deregulating the finance industry. “He continues to follow policies that create the same kind of environment we see today, with recurrent financial crises and epidemics of fraud led by CEOs,” says Black, the former S&L regulator. Indeed, if the current financial crisis has a villain, it is Phil Gramm, who remains close to McCain. As chair of the Senate Banking Committee in the late 1990s, Gramm ushered in — with McCain’s fervent support — a massive wave of deregulation for insurance companies and brokerage houses and banks, the aftershocks of which are just now being felt in Wall Street’s catastrophic collapse. McCain, who has admitted that “the issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” relies on Gramm to guide him.
OBAMA FOR CHANGE!
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Palin is a coward hiding behind the extreme right wing fringes of the republican party throwing bombs.
the only legitimate investigation is her abuse of power in Alaska.
Posted by: watching | October 6, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
McCain/Palin campaign is all about the past, no new ideas.
McCain and the Republicans want “Swift-Boat” Obama or steal the election this time around.
McCain is living in the past.
Posted by: Lookup | October 6, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
No need to throw punches, just explain the reasoning behind your associations already. I don’t want the likes of Ayers and Wright as cabinet members.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Secret, Foreign Money Floods Into Obama Campaign
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman
More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won’t disclose.
And questions have arisen about millions more in foreign donations the Obama campaign has received that apparently have not been vetted as legitimate.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
The dow is down 800 points today and all McCain wants to talk about is what happened when Obama was 8.
Time to change the clueless Bush-McCain economic policies.
Posted by: bubba | October 6, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Jake, we Americans are smart enough to know why McCain is playing the guilt by association game, and why Obama is focusing on the economy. But dows the press only ask questions about the character attacks and not the economy because they understand the former but lack the brainpower for the latter?
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
“Since when has been smart,educated a bad thing? Some said they love Palin because she is one of them in dumbness and airhead’
That’s an ignorant statement there mate.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
golfgirlusa: Please don’t believe every ad mccain puts out.. your blog is total false.
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
McCain/Palin campaign is all about the past, no new ideas.
McCain and the Republicans wont “Swift-Boat” Obama or steal the election this time around.
McCain is living in the past.
Posted by: Lookup | October 6, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Secret, Foreign Money Floods Into Obama Campaign
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman
More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won’t disclose.
And questions have arisen about millions more in foreign donations the Obama campaign has received that apparently have not been vetted as legitimate.
From:
Secret, Foreign Money Floods Into Obama Campaign
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman
More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won’t disclose.
And questions have arisen about millions more in foreign donations the Obama campaign has received that apparently have not been vetted as legitimate.
From:
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
“The dow is down 800 points today and all McCain wants to talk about is what happened when Obama was 8.”
How old was he when he was sitting in Ayers’ living room seeking his guidance? Obama can accept some of the credit for assisting in this economic downturn.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Obama is ONE of the Senators behind the economic mess, yet he hammers McCain. Why? Because of the STUPID people who have consumed the Koolaid. YES, stupid. Obama is a radical in record, in thought and in life. The only explanation is that people who have never taken a interest in the political process have been scammed into registering and voting for someone they KNOW NOTHING about other than his pretty speeches, and even those are not so pretty when you really listen. He’s corrupt as the day is long, and unfortunately, too many stupid Americans are going to vote for him.
Don’t bother attacking me. Stupid is as stupid does.
Posted by: Brenda | October 6, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
OBAMA..THE ONE WITH GOOD JUDGEMENT AND LEADERSHIP!!! THE ONE WHO THINKS ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST….
Yes, we need another economic stimulus package. Let’s take another $700 billion from the taxpayers to turn around and hand out to the taxpayers. How do we do it? Why, we’ll simply charge it!
Irresponsible credit got us in this mess to begin with, and our Democratic leaders – headed by Obama – want to pile more credit onto our national debt to get us out of it.
The lunatics are truly running the asylum!
And don’t forget – just as the housing mess was caused by giving home loans to the least credit-worthy – the economic stimulus package goes even to those who don’t pay a penny of tax. Free money – ya gotta love it!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Palin said she told McCain that he might as well take off the gloves during the debate tuesday.
Seems that Palin has tyaken over the McCain campaign.
McCain is a joke, or does he have dementia and is being used?
Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
geg
Do you think McCain brought in Palin because of her insight into foreign affairs? Give me a break.
Posted by: The Unshrub | October 6, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won’t disclose.
And questions have arisen about millions more in foreign donations the Obama campaign has received that apparently have not been vetted as legitimate.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
golfgirlusa,
are you an economist? No? Are you aware that nearly all of the leading economists have stated Obama’s plans are superior?
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Folks…..Search on McCain and corruption. You will find numerous articles detailing the “real” John McCain. The man has been in Congress for 27 years and has had his share of shady acquaintances. Us small-town folks always say “people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”. Seems John McCain and Sarah Palin really don’t have small-town values. They only pretend to. McCain may or may not be as corrupt as portrayed in many of those articles….however, it doesn’t matter once the debate starts heading down that path. If McCain\Palin were truly honorable and truly put America first they would call an end to personal attacks. But I don’t expect that to happen because they are desperate and above all else want to win, sadly even at the expense of the country they so boisterously profess to love.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 6, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Obama called subprime loans a good thing.
Obama worked for ACORN which encouraged bad loans for minority owners.
Obama defended Raines and hired Jim Johnson who took 25 million from the american people in a CEO golden parachute.
Posted by: Jeff | October 6, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
I’m so glad Obama is fighting back, something that Kerry didn’t do and it cost him.
Posted by: annie | October 6, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
what is this? like a different reading on the turn the ther cheek saying? Some Messiah he is
Posted by: The J | October 6, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Dear Jon Lawrence — we will forgive your ignorance because you are British, but regarding your analogy of Timothy McVeigh: YES, his schoolmates and chums would be scrutinized for being terrorists themselves, if:
– they continued to associate with McVeigh, very closely, to the point of working together and having your campaign launched at his house
– this association continued AFTER McVeigh did his atrocious terrorists acts.
–they were running for President.
And Yes, to Obama, to all of the above.
Would you bring on a dangerous man to be PM of the UK? NO? then why are you expecting the US to do that with Obama?
Kindly tend to your own matters, britty.
Posted by: liberati | October 6, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Wow all of these negative comments are starting the rally the democratic base…
Everything Mccain and Palin do seems to work to our advantage.
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
“Obama called subprime loans a good thing.”
And why not? We’ll bail everyone out! How much did he get from Fannie and Freddie again?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
A young bride was at an airport flying to meet up with her new husband in her new home Norway. The airlines informed her she needed $125. to cover the extra luggage which she didn’t have.Her tears could not convince the airlines to give her a break. a young well dressed man stepped forward and gave her the money. She took his name and address and promised to repay him…which she did. The year 1988 and the young man was Barack Obama. This man will be our next president. What a class act.
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
A new SurveyUSA poll finds John McCain’s chances of winning Virginia slipping away. Barack Obama is ahead in the state by ten points, 53% to 43%.
OBAMA TAKING OUR NATION BACK FOR US!!!
Welcome aboard Virginia…
Also, I read Texas and Montana are not far behind…
YES WE CAN!!! THANK YOU OBAMA!
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
How about some of that Barbeque? Barack
Posted by: Que | October 6, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
McCain’s friend, unrepentant G. Gordon Liddy spent more than 4 years in prison for the 72 Watergate burglary. Far from repudiating him, McCain has embraced him.
In 1998, Liddy’s home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. He has made at least 4 contributions totaling $5,000 to the McCain’s campaigns, including $1,000 this year.
Nov 07, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as “an old friend” McCain said. “I’m proud of you, I’m proud of your family,” he gushed. “It’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.”
Liddy proposed to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn’t disrupt the 1972 RNC. He planned the murder (never carried out) of an unfriendly newspaper columnist
Posted by: Jim | October 6, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Today the Walls St. Journal reports the senior McCain economic adviser who replaced Phil Gramm is saying McCain as President would cut Medicare and Medicaid. And Jake is serving us take out orders and campaign attack lines.
Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
HP Boston
You are just confused. You are making assumptions based on other assumptions. WOW. No wonder you are so confussed.
You forgot to mention who started the foundation in the first place. He was a Nixon appointee. OH MY!
Posted by: The Unshrub | October 6, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
It appears the Obama campaign has asked the FEC to investigate the Mccain campaign donations as well. Many of those donations are from out of country donors…
one thing we do know about his donors is this…Keating is still donating.
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
McCain has alread lost. He knows it.
People are tired of the Bush-McCain economy.
Posted by: memyself | October 6, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Thank God.
The Dems finally grew a pair!
Posted by: Lia | October 6, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
I have one suggestion that may help McCain and Palin, Sarah can pretend to shoot and quarter the republican elephant from a helicopter, this will show the country what tough mavericks they really are, then they can get themselves a dog and pony show to go with their clown act, and maybe a midget to show how they are for the little guy.
Posted by: LANNY EDWARDS | October 6, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
“OBAMA TAKING OUR NATION BACK FOR US!!!”
Taking it back for whom?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
HAHAHA
Charles Keating is still giving McCain money. That is hilarious. Keating 5 McCain still has corrupt banking friends.
OMG!
Posted by: memyself | October 6, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
HP Boston
You are confussing laughter with frothing at the mouth.
Youbetcha
Posted by: The Unshrub | October 6, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Obama 5
REZKO, “five hours of legal work”
WRIGHT, “not controversial”
AYERS, “never knew his history”
FARRAKHAN, “Okay, Hillary. I reject and denounce him”
MICHELLE, “That’s America. Ignorant”.
Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Now that’s my kind of a fighter.
Posted by: Reality-based | October 6, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
America is such a bigoted nation.
You throw around the word Muslim like it’s a cuss word.
And if you REALLY think Obama is a terrorist, call your local FBI with your proof!
But you won’t do that, cause you don’t have any proof or any real grounds for that terrorist accusation. You’re just being ignorant.
Posted by: Just a Voter | October 6, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
“OBAMA TAKING OUR NATION BACK FOR US!!!”
Taking it back for racists and 60′s radicals?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Wow all of these negative comments are starting the rally the democratic base…
Everything Mccain and Palin do seems to work to our advantage.
Posted by: karen | Oct 6, 2008 3:09:05 PM
If you think this negative stuff by McCain is going to work, we’ll see come Nov. People are tired of those types of distractions.
Here we have an economy in crisis and McCain’s lipstick pig is rambling on about something she has no clue about.
These swift boat tactics won’t work this time.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Mack
yea I work with someone who proudly associates themselves with the 60s radicals.. the fact is that was based on Veitnam back then … which became irrelevant and now Iraq is irrelevant which is the only issue obama has because if he starts barking up the financial tree a lot of shady deals will come out that hes associated with
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Tanya…
how bout this list instead.
Liddy
Ifshin
Quinn
Hagee
keating
Singlaub
Gramm
Davis
the AIP
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Obama also could not afford his house without a sweetheart deal from the convicted felon Tony Rezko. To keep Rezko’s name secret, Rezko’s wife was used to buy the empty lot.
Politics of change? Hardly.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 6, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Charles Keating is still giving McCain money. That is hilarious. Keating 5 McCain still has corrupt banking friends.
OMG!
Posted by: memyself | October 6, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
McBush wants to close the page on the
Economy and start a Bad Mouth Campaign
on Obama
QUESTION TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW
MANY MORE UNITED STATES BANKS WILL BE
SHUT DOWN BY THE GOVERNMENT BY
ELECTION DAY?
YES McCAIN BAD MOUTHS WHILE THE
UNITED STATES GOES BROKE AND
TAKES DOWN THE FREE WORLD WITH IT…
YES THIS IS McCAINS COUNTRY FIRST
STRAIGHT TALK FOR THE APOCALYPSE
I SEE A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT COMING
AND ITS NOT GOT A U.S. BRAND IF
McCAINS SHADOW REMAINS.
Posted by: Anita Yova | October 6, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
memyself
and John Gleen isnt relevant…I dont think so
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
anita yova
the truth is… radicals will not be allowed in our government and this kind of association that Obama has must be brought out.. you arent goign to strong arm half the electorate!
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
You people aint seen nothing yet the OCTOBER SURPRISE IS YET TO COME mccain and vietnam just wait folks this is not gonna be pretty for mccain he knows this is why he is starting to attack obama HE KNOWS ITS COMING!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Obama also could not afford his house without a sweetheart deal from the convicted felon Tony Rezko. To keep Rezko’s name secret, Rezko’s wife was used to buy the empty lot.
Politics of change? Hardly.
Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 6, 2008 3:22:23 PM
Was Obama convicted of any wrongdoing?
No. End of story.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
McCain displayed little of Hope’s valor. Although he would soon regale The New York Times with tales of the heroism of the brave enlisted men who “stayed to help the pilots fight the fire,” McCain took no part in dousing the flames himself. After going belowdecks and briefly helping sailors who were frantically trying to unload bombs from an elevator to the flight deck, McCain retreated to the safety of the “ready room,” where off-duty pilots spent their noncombat hours talking trash and playing poker. There, McCain watched the conflagration unfold on the room’s closed-circuit television — bearing distant witness to the valiant self-sacrifice of others who died trying to save the ship, pushing jets into the sea to keep their bombs from exploding on deck.
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
“Bad Mouth Campaign
on Obama ‘
Why doesn’t he just explain his associations and stop pretending that Ayers was “just some guy from the block”. Lying sack of …..
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Mack
I expect hes going to be explaining them for half the debate tuesday night
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
J
not yet but rezko is copperating with the government as we speak about ties Obama had to him
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
angie
you ought to be worried about your weakling candidate obama with no real gravitas… if hes not up by 6 on Nov 3rd hes gone
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
so….lemme get this straight. keating is still donating to McCain…yet he’s not relevant while Ayers is?
Liddy’s not relevant though he’s donated to mccain this year also?
nice try… LOL
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Niah
thats irrelelvant but thanks for not contributing to the conversation!
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
staniam,
He may have cleared of wrong doing in the Keating 5 but he was cited for poor judgement. The same judgement that caused to spring the worst joke in the history of politics, Sarah Palin, on the country.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 6, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Karen
no its not relevant but Obama must lay out every association with ayers rezko wright etc to be able to move on thats it that is a requirement
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Smart Move Obama! Go get the liars and show the American people what McCain/Palin are hiding under the Tammy Faye persona that hides a failed campaign!
Keating 5 all over again with McCain ‘s deregulation of Wall Street, thanks alot GOP & McCain.
Posted by: Debbie | October 6, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
As McCain’s Lead Among White Virginians Shrinks, So Too His Chances of Holding The State’s 13 Electoral Votes: 29 days until votes are counted in Virginia, Democrat Barack Obama is ahead 53% to 43%, according to this SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for WDBJ-TV in Roanoke, WJLA-TV in Washington DC, WTVR-TV in Richmond, and WJHL-TV in the Tri-Cities. In 4 tracking polls conducted since the Republican Convention, McCain has gone from up by 2 to down by 10.
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
indy voter
Obama must lay out his invovement with all the shady chicago people or else…keatign happned 20 yrs ago and Obamas involvement with the likes of his people are ongoing not to mention his lobbyists ACORN is relevant
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
ANYBODY, with a brain, can go out on the net and see Obamas answers to the junk Falin is peddling for McCain this week,. Heck he answered ALL of that months ago but McCain has NOTHING left and is now trying dredge up old news.
Posted by: Debbie | October 6, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Obama, an Illinois senator, leads 49 percent to 42 percent among Ohio voters, according to a Columbus Dispatch poll of 2,262 likely voters released yesterday
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
OMG GUISE JESUS WAS A FRIEND OF PROSTITUTES AND TAX COLLECTORS! HE IS OBVIOUSLY WICKED!
Seriously, is that what we’ve come to? I fault BOTH campaigns for bringing up personal associations as some sort of proof of wrongdoing. I don’t give a damn who the Keating 5 are, I don’t care what Bill Ayers did. I care about John McCain and Barack Obama and what they are going to do for this country.
Anyone who believes that McCain is going to get into office and hold Congress at gunpoint to force them to give all their money to banks and oil companies is just as freaking STUPID as someone who believes that Obama is going to get into office and force Congress at gunpoint to salute the Koran.
Both sides need to grow up.
Posted by: wow | October 6, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Quote from Joe Vogler. Why did Palin have a relationship with him?
We are, after all, talking about a party founded by a man who said, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” The same man, AIP founder Joe Vogler, also said, “[T]he fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government.”
Posted by: Niah Waters | October 6, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
McCain has his own Bill Ayres. His name is G. Gordon Liddy. He was a right wing radical that wanted to bomb his own targets, and he spent 4 1/2 years in prison.
The difference? Whereas Ayres was performing his acts while Obama was 8 years old, Liddy is a contemporary of McCain’s. And whereas Obama has denounced the former Ayre’s actions, and his ties to Ayres are circumstantial, McCain has said about Liddy, “I’m proud of you, I’m proud of your family,” he said on his radio show. “It’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.”
McCain need only push a little farther, and talk will begin to shift from Ayres to Liddy, and from Wright to Muthee.
Posted by: Matt | October 6, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
What About the Troopergate Scandal?
What about Palin’s withcraft pastor?
What about Cindy McCain Drug Habits?
What about her pregnant daughter whois unwed?
What about her husband who nevers hold that poor baby?
What about her kids who are never in school?
Posted by: Maggie | October 6, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Let’s see what important really means to Americans. McCain fighting for DEREGULATION to do a favor to Keating and NOW we have him voting 55 times for DEREGULATION over the last 26 years and we have failure on Wall Street or Obama’s sitting on a board with a man who was a terrorist 40 years ago….gosh what to choose what to choose……
Posted by: Debbie | October 6, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
indy voter
Obama must lay out his invovement with all the shady chicago people or else…keatign happned 20 yrs ago and Obamas involvement with the likes of his people are ongoing not to mention his lobbyists ACORN is relevant
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 3:36:22 PM
Yes, the Keating thing was 20 years ago but it is also relevant to what is happening today. Fluff Bunny shouldn’t have brought up stuff about Obama and there would have been no mention of it.
I am sure if they dig hard enough they could find some guilt by association with McCain and Fluff Bunny.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Wow
thats true but the ones who supported clinton and now are aundecided or supportign mccain are far more advanced developmentally than the obamaphiles.. his main constituency 18 yr olds now voting were 12 yrs old when they heard their patrents rant on about how evil Clinton was I take personal offense to that and the fact is their parents weretn thrn and arent now grown up… its like the kids are the parents thats screwed up… NO we wont have that in the white house
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
the Real John McCain
Connections:
Connection to convicted Watergate felon G. Gordon Liddy
Connection to An extremist who hates blacks and Jews John Singlaud
Connection to 1980/90′s S&L Scandal though Keating 5
Connection to now-convicted Italian con man
Connection to shady Russian oligarchs to take over the economy of Montenegro
Judgment:
Selection of Sara Palin as running mate who is involved in obstruction of justice and abuse of power investigation trooper gate
Selection of Rick Davis a wealthy lobbyist who got paid from Fannie Mae
Decision to go negative in this campaign
Decision to pretend to Suspend Campaign.
Voting records
Senate Voting Record Against GI Bill and Other spending for medical services.
Senate Voting Record Against Women’s Issues like Maternity leave and Birth Control
Senate Voting record Against Minimum wage increases
Senate Voting Record against Children’s Healthcare.
Senate voting record against public education reform.
Senate Voting Record 90% with GW bush
Posted by: Marsha | October 6, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
GREW UP
AMERICA
Posted by: loretta | October 6, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
J
but you have no choice you will have to listen to what Obama has been involeved with whether directly or not…it is relevant now because they are contributing to the campaign Mccain has cut ties with those S&ls of the 80s prob which you dont even remember
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
J
I didnt bring anything up about the Clintons I went to both Clintons innaugurations worked for Dukkakis before that… the thing is you have a prob with your own Dem base and you are too arrogant weak and pissant to realize it
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 3:37:51 PM
It’s the same type of witch hunt with Obama was what I was getting at. That produced nothing and so will this.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
The last gasp of the corrupt republican party. Thankfully the Bush years are at an end and Bush-McCain policies can be put behind us.
Charles Keating is still giving money to Keating 5 McCain. UNBELIEVABLE!!
Posted by: memyself | October 6, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Yes, McCain was absolved of any involvement with the Keating 5 and OJ was acquitted of murdering two people, think what you may.
Posted by: LANNY EDWARDS | October 6, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Clintonite for McCain,
So guilt by association to an event that happened when McCain was 58 and was cited for poor judgement is not relevant. In a savings and loan scandal? Where he was cavorting with lobbyists? I guess it was just youthful discression….just liking cheating on his wife, right? My point is….McCain\Palin’s hands are not clean. Do not throw stones. Getting into a pissing contest over some obscure or irrelevant involvement with someone leads the country down a hole it doesn’t need to go. McCain was supposed to be about honor..country first, etc., etc.. Palin was supposed to be about small town values…They are just worthless politicians who will do anything to advance their careers.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 6, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
At first I was upset that Senator Obama would not hit McSame hard about the Keating-5. Now it’s ok that he does not do it because his campaign and the media are doing it for him. Who am I to say what he should do? What he has been doing has worked wonderfully for him. All the polls are in his favor heavily.
I’m behind you 100% Mr. President.
Posted by: FLORIDA BABY! | October 6, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
J
if you think its a which hunt then you shouldnt be scared of it you should let it happen… the truth is you people are just in it for the free concerts etc and have no concept of what it will take to govern
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Sarah has ‘ties’ to people who think it is ok to bomb abortion clinics.
Posted by: Niah Waters | October 6, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
J
but you have no choice you will have to listen to what Obama has been involeved with whether directly or not…it is relevant now because they are contributing to the campaign Mccain has cut ties with those S&ls of the 80s prob which you dont even remember
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 3:42:53 PM
McCain is not squeaky clean. Let’s start digging into his associations and see where that leads. I am older than you think, I do remember.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
So, while McCain and Palin prattle on about nothing, the world still turns:
Let’s see how it’s turning:
-The DOW’s on it’s way to one of its worst ever point losses – again. And now down about 30%+ in the last year.
-97% of the NYSE listed companies are down (3,200 companies) and of that 1600 hit a new low.
-Financial markets around the world are falling. Europe saw a record % fall today.
-The dollar is tanking against the yen (and likely the Chinese Yuan as well).
-U.S. bank stocks are tanking – down over 6% as an industry:
Bank of America has lost about $12 billion in market value – today.
Citibank has lost about $6 billion in market value – today.
-Airline stocks are down 10-11%.
-Steel and Iron industrial companies are down 13%.
And with those falls the values of 401k accounts go with them. It didn’t matter if you were diversified or not, you got hammered. All industrial segments lost value. All major markets (perhaps every single foreign market) dropped today.
And all McCain can do is prattle on. What exactly is he going to do for America other than cut corporate tax rates? Hmmmm? And how is he going to pay for those tax cuts? He’s going to tax the health care benefits of American workers.
John McCain, an American nightmare that CAN NOT be allowed to be president! If you thought a clueless George Bush was bad, just wait for what happens with a clueless and ANGRY John McCain in the White House (and a completely clueless Palin waiting in the wings).
That would be a scary time to be an investor.
Posted by: Bud | October 6, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
nia
you gave up your right to be protected from the right to lifers when you supported obama… I am pro choice but you made your bed
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
“That would be a scary time to be an investor.’
Yes the sky is falling! Pull out your money now and stick it under your mattress. That should help.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
J
ok lets have a debate about associations… Obama is not the saint and definitely not the messiah you think he is and Mccain isnt as bad its that simple and you dont get it
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
The co-host of a recent top-dollar fundraiser for Sen. John McCain oversaw the payment of roughly $1.7 million to a Colombian paramilitary group that is today designated a terrorist organization by the United States
Posted by: Nia Waters | October 6, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
John McCain was chided by the senate ethics committee for “bad judgement”. Gee, how corrupt do you have to be to get congress to notice?
McCain said it was the “greatest mistake of my life”. He might want to rethink that after the election.
Posted by: bubba | October 6, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Mack
yea I heard today that Obama would be the one that would be the “herbert Hoover” president… because he would last 1 term if that and mccain would be the one to trully change the finacial ystem… obama is impotent in all senses of the word which is prob why his supporters like him because they are that way
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
I can’t imagine a worse world than the one that McCain and people like him would lead us toward. Their campaign has been based on fear and stagnation. The United States can’t afford to sit still and collect cobwebs while the rest of the world passes us by. No more protectionists. No more living in the past. Obama is the candidate who has the skills and judgment to lead us into a brighter future. McCain is right. It is time to turn the page…it’s time to turn the page on McCain’s old-school politics.
Posted by: Megan | October 6, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
“The co-host of a recent top-dollar fundraiser”
The man that helped to launch Obama’s political career is an unrepentant domestic terrorist. He doesn’t regret setting bombs.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
You can smell the pungent odor of desperation from MCBUSH and the RNC. After running the country down for 7 years, they can’t ask for another 4.So, their only strategy is throw mud and hail marys and hope some of the their greatest hits stick.
NOT THIS TIME!!!
Posted by: joseph | October 6, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
McCain and Fluff Bunny are desperate and it shows. Instead of talking about the economy they are bashing Obama. How does that help any of us? I guess when you don’t know anything about the economy(McCain’s words, not mine) that is what you have to resort to.
I am glad Obama is not sitting back like Kerry did. He showed me actually has a pair.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
nat turner
the only president obama will be is an impotent inefectual one you better not celebrate till election day you are wrong
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
John McCain was chided by the senate ethics committee for “bad judgement”. Gee, how corrupt do you have to be to get congress to notice?
McCain said it was the “greatest mistake of my life”. He might want to rethink that after the election.
And the corrupt financier at the center of the mess IS STILL GIVING MCCAIN MONEY!
Posted by: bubba | October 6, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Surely Obama’s campaign has been working on their 13-minute Keating Five infomercial for a while now.
Posted by: MayBee | October 6, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Wow
thats true but the ones who supported clinton and now are aundecided or supportign mccain are far more advanced developmentally than the obamaphiles
For the record….I am 55. The difference between Republicans and non-Republicans (I am an Independent) is that hardcore Republicans never mature past the age of 18. Think about it. They can’t discuss issues intelligently so they have to shout or denigrate their opposition. I have three teenagers. Hardcore Republicans sound just like them. Actually, worse than them…
Posted by: indy_voter | October 6, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
J
ok lets have a debate about associations… Obama is not the saint and definitely not the messiah you think he is and Mccain isnt as bad its that simple and you dont get it
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 3:49:23 PM
I didn’t say Obama was a saint, but if you want to get into guilt by association then McCain deserves anything Obama digs up.
I wasn’t going to vote Obama after Hillary lost. The more I listened to McCain the more it drove me to Obama.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Obama was 8-9 years old when William Ayres formed the radical Weathermen organization. As Obama rose in Chicago politics, he was selected along with Ayres and Republican members alike to serve on various non-profit boards in Chicago. John McCain was an adult and a US Senator when he voluntarily intervened to assist “his good friend” Charles Keating in the S&L financial scandal. McCain was not “dragged” into the Senate hearings on the S&L crimes because he was a Republican being scapegoated by Democrats, those are the words of McCain’s attorney who is trying to put lipstick on McCain’s piggish behavior in an earlier financial crisis.
Posted by: Tom in Alabama | October 6, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Obama is and always will be an “empty suit with no substance!”
McCain/Palin 08!
“COUNTRY FIRST!”
Posted by: Vanessa | October 6, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
We all wish the negative stuff would go away, it is childish. But when McCain/Palin starts that mudslinging then Obama/Biden has to respond. Reason is that there are a lot of stupid Americans who will believe anything, especially negative stuff. They think this is daytime tv and are watching “one life to live”, etc.
GO OBAMA, good job on your comments in the article.
Posted by: smbs | October 6, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
megan
the only people supporting obama are people like you makign 6 figures or their parents who give them money are makign 6 figures until you get out and try to do things for yourself and not on an endless gravy train you will see things obamas way and will be disappointed
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
“For the record….I am 55. The difference between Republicans and non-Republicans (I am an Independent) is that hardcore Republicans never mature past the age of 18. Think about it. They can’t discuss issues intelligently so they have to shout or denigrate their opposition. I have three teenagers. Hardcore Republicans sound just like them. Actually, worse than them…”
Do you live in an alternate universe? I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life. Mull that one over.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
I was a HUGE Obama supporter, made hundreds of posts in favor of him, but his tactics are low….very low. I’m beginning to believe that this election is just about Obama, at least that’s what he thinks. We don’t need Obama as President, he needs to go back to Chicago or Africa…whichever!
Posted by: Vanessa | October 6, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Why didn’t the main stream media ask MCCain why he brought up the J.Wright issue?? Oh yes it is trying to make it look like Barack started it. Go Obama swing back!
Posted by: H.Smith | October 6, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Sen. Barack Obama”s presidential campaign has accepted $54,350 from members of a law firm that in 2006 lobbied him to introduce a tax provision for a Japanese drug company with operations in Illinois, according to public records and interviews. The government estimates the provision, which became law in December 2006, will cost the treasury $800,000.Obama touts his refusal to take donations from Washington lobbyists though he accepts money from their co-workers who are not registered to lobby. Speaking after the Feb. 12 primary, he decried a “Washington game” where “lobbyists write check after check and Exxon makes record profits.”
Posted by: jschmidt | October 6, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
smbs
you may think they are stupid americans but they will give mccain a 2 to 3 percent advantage in popular vote on election day
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
freerepublic. posts “You look at Obama’s economic advisers, the guys he has counted on from day one and who have raised him a ton — and I mean a ton — of money: Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson, both of them are waist to neck deep in the mortgage debacle.” Both Raines and Johnson have served as CEO of Fannie Mae, with Raines taking over from Johnson. Both are key political and economic advisers to Obama. “How can Obama go out with a straight face and saw it was Republicans who made this mess, when it is his key advisers who ran the agencies that made the big mess what it is?” says a Democrat House member who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. “It’s his people who are responsible for what may well be the single largest government bailout in history. And every single one of them made millions off the collapse that are lining Obama’s campaign coffers. If the McCain campaign let’s this one go, they deserve to lose.” It isn’t just Fannie Mae where Obama has a problem. Another close political adviser, in fact the one man responsible for rallying support for Obama early on among Congressional Democrats, is Rep. Rahm Emanuel, who served on the Board of Directors for Freddie Mac after leaving the Clinton White House. According to Freddie Mac insiders, Emanuel during his time on the board opposed every reform proposed by the Bush Administration that would have impacted Freddie and Fannie Mae. Emanuel claimed to be neutral in the primary race between the wife of his old boss and his longtime Chicago acquaintance, Obama. But the chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, who would be first in line for the vacated Senate seat of Obama should he win the presidency, quickly dumped Clinton when it was clear Obama had a head of steam for the nomination. “We ought to be able to — rightly — hang the Fannie and Freddie scandal around the neck of Obama, if they can get out in front,” says a House Republican. “Middle-class folks’ mortgages are probably safe, but the American taxpayer will also be paying for this scandal for years to come.”
Posted by: jschmidt | October 6, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
“Obama was 8-9 years old when William Ayres formed the radical Weathermen organization. ”
Once again, how old was he when he was seeking out Ayers’ support and guidance?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
It is Bill and Tom Ayers, Frank Davis, Tony Rezko and Emil Jones. This is Obama family, his mentors and council. The whole time Obama has been campaigning he has been reluctant to divulge his true history. He worked with Bill Ayers and Frank Davis was his childhood mentor. His direct involvement with ACORN that promoted the financial corruption of sub-prime mortgages is well known. Obama was part of the problem in the housing market meltdown. Smear effort? Wow, that’s a stretch.
Posted by: Campbell | October 6, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
jschmidt
yep thats an example of the classic style of Obama to accuse your opponent of what you yourelf is doing!
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Campbell
not only that all campaign contributions to obama are tied to ACORN to confuse the issue so there is a There there!
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
nia
because thats what obama you talk big but thats not the reality
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Obama is an Arrogant, Radical FRAUD!
Media – Do your JOB – the DNC picked this guy and pushed him thru – the DEMS have caused our money mess – Raines, Dodd, – and all the other obama “friends”
Thank GOD the media is now reporting these facts!
Keep it up – we need the TRUTH
Posted by: Molly | October 6, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
“jschmidt
yep thats an example of the classic style of Obama to accuse your opponent of what you yourelf is doing!”
He’s been doing that from day one. I live in a swing state and I’ve been bombarded with attack ad after attack ad for at least the last month coming from Obama. In one ad he even tried to blame McCain for helping to build an air-conditioned ferris wheel in Iraq. This is sleazy Chicago style politics. Smile to your face and stab you in the back.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Vanessa do you really believe that people will fall for the “I was an O supporter” with that go back to Africa bs? If O has to go back to Africa, then all of the white people should go back to England. Remember who the real Native Americans are.
Posted by: Niah Waters | October 6, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
J
its your fault for not voting for kerry in 2004 and throwing the election to bush… so its your fault we are in this mess!
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
The Special Prosecutor handling the Keating affair wanted to drop McCain because he was not at fault. The Democratic head of the Ethics COmmitee wanted MCCain accused because it would balance out the 4 DEMOCRATS accused. So it was a hatchet job by the Dems that kept MCCain on the hook. The Dems were found at fault. MCCain was not.
Posted by: jschmidt | October 6, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Come on Sarah, if you are Maverick and straight with the people. Lets start here, why the cover up?
Alaska Republicans are asking the state’s highest court to block an abuse-of-power investigation into vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s firing of a state commissioner before a potentially embarrassing report on the matter is released.
Five GOP state lawmakers, in a brief filed Monday, say the inquiry has exceeded its authority and is too political.
Palin is the focus of a legislative investigation into allegations she abused her power by firing her public safety commissioner. The commissioner says he was pressured to dismiss a state trooper who was involved in a messy divorce with Palin’s sister.
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
because thats what obama you talk big but thats not the reality …
Is this the Sarah Palin sentence structure? Please translate in English.
Posted by: Niah Waters | October 6, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
This meme of mortgages to unworthy home buyers causing the meltdown is wrong! That paper was sold over and over, and that, combined with no cash reserves for leveraged positions, and astronomical payouts to financial service industry exec, was the house of cards built on top of the mortgages written with terms that were fraudulent and criminal. Low income first time buyers with fixed rate mortgages have a very high repay rate. Stop blaming the consumers when it was the sellers who who resold and resold and resold – and the rulemakers allowed it all.
Posted by: Georgia Eliot | October 6, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
J
its your fault for not voting for kerry in 2004 and throwing the election to bush… so its your fault we are in this mess!
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 4:03:45 PM
Wrong again. I have voted for 30+ years as a democrat and I did vote for Kerry .
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Charlie Keating, the banker and anti-pornography crusader, would ultimately be convicted on 73 counts of fraud and racketeering for his role in the savings-and-loan scandal of the 1980s. That crisis, much like today’s subprime-mortgage meltdown, resulted from misbegotten banking deregulation, and ultimately left taxpayers to pick up a tab of more than $124 billion. Keating, who raised more than $100,000 for McCain’s race, lavished the first-term congressman with the kind of political favors that would make Jack Abramoff blush. McCain and his family took at least nine free trips at Keating’s expense, and vacationed nearly every year at the mogul’s estate in the Bahamas. There they would spend the days yachting and snorkeling and attending extravagant parties in a world McCain referred to as “Charlie Keating’s Shangri-La.” Keating also invited Cindy McCain and her father to invest in a real estate venture for which he promised a 26 percent return on investment. They plunked down more than $350,000.
Unfortunately, any lessons McCain learned from the Keating scandal didn’t affect his unbridled enthusiasm for deregulating the finance industry. “He continues to follow policies that create the same kind of environment we see today, with recurrent financial crises and epidemics of fraud led by CEOs,” says Black, the former S&L regulator. Indeed, if the current financial crisis has a villain, it is Phil Gramm, who remains close to McCain. As chair of the Senate Banking Committee in the late 1990s, Gramm ushered in — with McCain’s fervent support — a massive wave of deregulation for insurance companies and brokerage houses and banks, the aftershocks of which are just now being felt in Wall Street’s catastrophic collapse. McCain, who has admitted that “the issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” relies on Gramm to guide him.
Also, News today:
John McCain’s proposals would cut funding for Medicare and Medicaid in order to keep his plan budget-neutral.
The Journal reported that McCain would cut Medicare and Medicaid funding by $1.3 trillion dollars over the next decade – based on estimates by independent analysts — and use those savings to fund tax credits to help people purchase health coverage.
“This plan would be a disaster. It would cut Medicare and Medicaid by over 20 percent over the next 10 years. It would dramatically reduce quality of health care for older Americans and the poorest and sickest of Americans, while at the same time adding to the burden of state governments,” Obama said. “Under Medicaid there is a set of benefits that are legally required of the state to provide. If the federal government reduces its level of support then that is just more of a burden that states – which are already in an extremely overextended basis – will have to pick up.”
Thanks McCain/Palin but NO THANKS!!
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
We haven’t even begun. Just a teaser. John McCain and G. Gordon Liddy — another guilt by association
Posted by: lisahussein | October 6, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
12 Bones is a great campaign stop for Obama. Asheville’s got quite the mixture of urban hipsters and grizzled locals, but you’ll see them all lining up down by the river for ‘cue at lunchtime.
(len: he won’t be back in Asheville for a while, I guess, his soon being President and all that. So allow him a local treat.)
Posted by: pseudonymous in nc | October 6, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Choosing McCain/Palin is definitely not putting country first. They have no plan and as a result decide to sink to these low tactics. It’s pathetic. Sarah Palin is a dimwit who knows absolutely nothing about the rest of the United States and John McCain is has been who keeps trying to get himself elected. Honestly, it’s time he gave up, cause it ain’t gonna happen.
Posted by: Melissa | October 6, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
The bottom line is this is going to be a massive blowout by B Rock.
When Ron Paul and Bob Barr bleed McChicken of votes, he’ll be lucky to get 200 electoral votes when this is over.
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 6, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
” If you don’t stop lying about my record, I will start telling the truth about yours. ” – Barack Obama
Johnny “Angry Man” McCain and Sarah “The Witch Hunter” Palin have a host of skeletons in their closets.
Bush/Palin/McCain, you just got SERVED!!!
Posted by: targaray | October 6, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Have you seen a picture of the Obama militant youth movement? Someone too eagered and showed their hands too soon in Kansas. Scary!
Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | October 6, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
J
well you are part of the problem anyway… you didnt pick the one most qualified to be president and you will have to pay for it eventually!
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 4:06:56 PM
I was a Hillary supporter and everything that McCains stands for I am against. Therefore I am voting Obama.
Also, Fluff Bunny didn’t impress me any. That was just a ploy by McCain thinking all women are stupid and would come flocking to him.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Connie: “Desperate McMad and McSad
maveric McLiers- both are laugh of the stock – in America and around the world-
McWolf & McSheWolf
McIdiot & McMoran
McStink & McStinker”
—
This, more than anything else, is an example of why I cannot and will not accept “CHANGE” as it is propounded by the Obama camp. This is CHANGE? This is CONSTRUCTIVE? This is the kind of mentality you want “in power” for our children to see and hear?
I don’t agree with McCain and Palin on a lot of things, but I do believe they have respect for other people. Obama does not, his campaign does not, his associates do not and his supporters do not – unless you agree with them 100%.
That’s not change, that’s Nazi Germany.
Posted by: real independent | October 6, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
It is obvious that the republicans are desperate, and have decided to get nasty. So what. People living in glass houses, should not throw stones. Obama is not going to sit back and get swift boated by an old hypocrite, who has never shown any integrity. Not this time, not this year. All of you who thought that Obama would not fight back, you better think again. This election is to important. Republicans are so desperate that they would bring up nonsense? Now we talk about Keating, about McCain “dogging” his first wife, about him being bossed around by lobbyists. The “Maverick”, give me abreak.
Posted by: JOSEPH | October 6, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Stan… Did you and Sarai go to the same University? You guys really need to work on word order.
yea there were some people that did support obama that are not now it is possible …your just tioo dumb and not up on the way things should be in the world nor know anythibg about political science but at least you tried!
Posted by: Niah Waters | October 6, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Once again, how old was he when he was seeking out Ayers’ support and guidance?
Posted by: Mack | Oct 6, 2008 3:58:37 PM
Hey Mack he was MUCH younger than McPOW wwas when he helped Charles Keating steal billions from taxpayers in 1989. McPOW used POOR JUDGEMENT, as usual, just like the other votes to deregulate any and all industry.
Posted by: NavyMom44 | October 6, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Nia
I dont care about correct spelling or sentence structure … because it makes as much sense as your far left reeking opinions(both litterally and figuratively)
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
navymom
just to be upset about one issue the war doesnt show any semblance of maturity… the war issue is dead
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
McCain is on offense. Obama is on defense and telling lies and accusing Americans that question him and don’t support him of being racists.
Keep it up Barry. Keep telling America that we are racists!
Obama never met a lie he didn’t like or use. Same goes for Burton and Gibbs and Axelfraud.
It’s been clear from day one that the Obama campaign will be sunk by their own words. It is almost too easy.
John McCain and Sarah Palin are taking the fight stright to the empty suit liar Obama!
~ Joe Biden is silent ~
Biden knows Obama is a liar! Biden knows Obama is dangerous. Biden knows Obama’s policies are too radical for America. Biden said so himself!
Country First – ALWAYS!!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary 2012
Posted by: USVet | October 6, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
J
but your goign to get told because people like you shouldnt be spouting off
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Who is the real Obama?
For starters, he’s a Chicago politician and a liar!
And Obama thinks Florida will turn blue?
BWAHAHAHAHHAA!!
Keep spending those million sdown in Florida, Obama. Keep wasting your money!!
Posted by: USVet | October 6, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
J
youve just been lied to by Obama thats all cant fault you for bad judgement
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Country First – ALWAYS!!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary 2012
Posted by: USVet | Oct 6, 2008 4:17:30 PM
Well if you cared about your country your first line of who you support is incorrect.
Secondly if you would vote for Hillary in 2012, then McCain-Palin would not be your choice in 2008 because they are opposite ends of the spectrum.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Mr Tapper,
I am wondering why you would end your article with Obama’s lunch menu.
Does it have anything really to do with the subject? Without direct connection to the subject (other than Obama’s casual mention of lunch plans), it comes across as playing to racial stereotypes.
I hope that wasn’t your intention.
Posted by: Jeanette | October 6, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Don’t like Ayres, but I don’t see how the Weather Underground is all that different from Operation Rescue.
Both groups went to extreme measures to save lives. Some anti-abortion people do extreme acts of vandalism to stop the taking of unborn life. Some anti-Vietnam war activisits did extreme vandalism to save soldiers and civilians.
More or less the same… but nobody is trying to smear the Republicans for their association with anti-abortion extremists. I take a Republican at their word when they say they disagree with Operation Rescue’s tactics. I take Obama at his word when he condemns the Weather Underground’s tactics.
This is just more baseless smears from McCampaign.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Obama will be carried out on a stretcher.
He can’t go toe to toe with McCain… he’ll find out.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
I read some of HP Boston’s post and saw statements in it that were refuted in the NYTimes Sunday article – so, no reason to read anymore – lies and more lies. It is sad to see McCain turn into the very same thing that he despised in 2000 – a vicious, lying, smear campaign to not only distract the voters from the economy, which he has no plan for, but to further divide the voters and make for a contentious election. So sad to see a once honorable man disgrace himself this way. OBAMA/BIDEN ’08
Posted by: Irene | October 6, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Nat Turner
dummy… Ralph nader and cynthia mckinney will bleed obama of votes in cricial states you dont know anything do you? once again Obama wasted money on paying you like the primaries
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
J
youve just been lied to by Obama thats all cant fault you for bad judgement
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 4:20:09 PM
Well I would rather take my chances with him than have 4 more years of the Bush policies. Look where that has gotten us. Two wars, an economy on the verge of collapse…would you like me to go on?
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
blip
Obamas campaign is run and is a carry over from those out of touch hippies in the 60s that ran the underground… I dont remember them but still dont like them
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
J
Obama will not be able to fix everything he has said recently he cant ennact everything he wanted to because of the crisis… I guess you dont do enough reasearch
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Obama will be carried out on a stretcher.
He can’t go toe to toe with McCain… he’ll find out.
Posted by: laura d | Oct 6, 2008 4:22:00 PM
Keep believing that.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
I think the question of Obama’s “toughness” has been answered.
The “last punch” comment is no threat, but fair warning to bullies who may be thinking of making a big mistake.
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Jerry Ulibarri | October 6, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
McCain is going to continue to slide in the polls.
People don’t like him because he has taken to lying. And after crying wolf so many times, even if he did find an honest smear against Obama… most people just tune him out.
He’s old, grumpy, out of touch. His visible, childish hatred for Obama just proves that you can’t trust McCain. And his supporters aren’t much better. They are every bit as small as their hero.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Mack
yep… someone here in NC whos husband had stock and was a VP of wachovia yrs ago said that people associated with ACORN bought into wachovia and ran it into the ground just the mere mention of that name is the tip of the iceberg and its going to come out whether obama wants it to or not
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
J
Obama will not be able to fix everything he has said recently he cant ennact everything he wanted to because of the crisis… I guess you dont do enough reasearch
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 4:25:20 PM
No kidding Einstein. At least he is looking for solutions instead of the politics of distraction.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
J
there is not one solution that hes put forward that he came up with…like the lie that he writes his own speeches… no candidate since JFK has written any speeches themselves
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
McCain is lying?
Me thinks the only one lying around here is Obama, who is STILL promising everything that he knows he can’t deliver, especially with the banks, stock and housing markets in turmoil, mostly thanks to his Dem colleagues.
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
J
there is not one solution that hes put forward that he came up with…like the lie that he writes his own speeches… no candidate since JFK has written any speeches themselves
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 4:29:59 PM
You talk about lies…McCain is full of them. How do you know if they write them or not? Oh of course, you know everything.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
“No kidding Einstein. At least he is looking for solutions instead of the politics of distraction.’
He is a con man that is just looking out for himself and his career. I’m sure he is happy with the economic downturn since that helps him in the polls.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
“No kidding Einstein. At least he is looking for solutions instead of the politics of distraction.’
He is a con man that is just looking out for himself and his career. I’m sure he is happy with the economic downturn since that helps him in the polls.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Stan… you are wrong. Obama’s campaign has very little resemblance to what the hippies did. I would argue that the GOP actually makes more consistent use of 1960s style cultural warfare and identity politics– marking themselves as counterculture, telling their followers to feel persecuted, manufacturing provaocative media stunts to steer the discourse, railing against the mass media conspiracy.
The Democrats, particularly the bulk of Obama supporters, are beyond that paradigm.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
The problem is, Mr. Obama, if you think this is the last punch coming from the McCain-Palin campaign, you are sadly mistaken!! Answer this please?
-You say you haven’t spoken to Ayers since 2005. So it was OK to hang out w/ unrepentant terrorists in 2005????
-You went to Ayers’ house to launch your political career. Umm … why? Are you cool w/ Ayer’s past?
Now, this is a question to all of you. Would you serve on a board, or otherwise hang out with – even lightly – w/ someone who you knew was an unrepentant terrorist??? Didn’t think so! So why would you elect someone President who would?
Posted by: Chairman Maubama | October 6, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Johnny “The Make-Believe Maverick” McCain
http://www.keatingeconomics.com
http://www.therealjohnmccain
http://www.rollingstone.com
Posted by: targaray | October 6, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Great line by Obama about throwing the last punch. It’s oh so true. Throughout the primaries and this general election the Obama campaign has been all class. It has been all about the issues. They only hit back on personal issues when they are hit first. They will not allow themselves to be bullied like Gore & Kerry were. This is too important. We must fight back! McCain & Palin are nothing but liars. They have nothing new to offer America. They are going to be doing nothing but smearing with LIES in this final month while the economy goes into a downward spiral – this is the nonsense they want to bring up?
Furthermore, unlike the GOP’s stupid character assassinations, The Keating Five actually tells us something about John McCain. And it’s closely related to the economy. The Keating Five is fair game. Where’s the MSM telling America about John McCain and his CLOSE association with The Keating Five? McCain is a criminal.
Posted by: Marvin Music | October 6, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
laura
thats right… these obama people that have no use for religion and said that “people cling to guns and religion because they have antipathy for people who arent like them” are going to get a big time shock on election day… all I say is you better get some religion its in your own interest
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
I’m very upset with McCain/Palin ticket.
I just found out that McCain also has ties to Ayers. There’s another board member who has given money to the McCain Campaign AND he is openly talked about Ayers.
So if McCain throws this stone…his glass house will break.
I’mm upset as a Disabled Desert Storm veteran who treated, triage, and helped interrogate over 17,000 Iraqi Soldiers in Rafha, Saudia Arabia with the 18th Airborne Corp and 16th MP Brigade.
It is time for someone else to lead and that is Barack Obama.
McCain has broken the worst promise of ANY veteran “NEVER LEAVE A SOLDIER BEHIND”
McCain’s Veteran Record is TERRIBLE!
Obama’s Veteran Record is GOLDEN!
Palin is so hypocritical
Biden is outstanding
Posted by: PAUL FROM ATLANTA | October 6, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
He is a con man that is just looking out for himself and his career. I’m sure he is happy with the economic downturn since that helps him in the polls.
Posted by: Mack | Oct 6, 2008 4:32:31 PM
What solutions has McCain offered? I am curious.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
“Now, this is a question to all of you. Would you serve on a board, or otherwise hang out with – even lightly – w/ someone who you knew was an unrepentant terrorist???”
Yes they would because they hate America. Racism is tolerated under certain circumstances and domestic terrorism is just a means to an end.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
The conservative blogger Ross Douthat has a good analysis of why the Ayers attack is going nowhere. Basically, it has nothing to do with problems people are experiencing and care about (unlike previous GOP attacks, like Willie Horton).
Keating 5, on the other hand, ties more directly into concerns about banking regulation.
Posted by: Tungsten | October 6, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
I heard the MSM and supporters of Obama say one too many times that the only reason white people won’t vote for Obama is if they are racist. Like that’ the ONLY explanation. I’m sick and tired of being called a racist just because I am white and do not support Obama.
He’s the racist.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
J
the point is that Obama is a con man and mccain is real and you cant dispute that maybe thats the kind of tactics you rely on but this is the real world
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Obama’s going to be another Roosevelt.
That is why the GOP is pulling out all the stops to smear him.
People have forgotten about just how important the New Deal was in the emergence of US superpower status. Years of prosperity and progress followed Roosevelt’s leadhersip.
American Prosperity will hurt the Republican brand.
The Republicans say that progress and prosperity are impossible, that government cannot work, and that the only solution is giving more to those that have it.
If Obama wins, he has the chance to prove them wrong. And the GOP has spent so much time cultivating cynicism… that the public backlash is going to be ENORMOUS if a Democratic president is given the chance to prove them wrong.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
“blah blah blah..All that has been said and more and guess what? Obama is still up in the polls.’
The polls change weekly. I wouldn’t get too comfortable.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Sen McShame is a shame. Dishonorable, despicable. Lying to get ahead. Tricking the American people – not giving them the facts about what he would do for the country, along with Sarah Liar, the attack DOG the Republicans are using in such despicable ways. Shame on McShame.
Posted by: Constance Mitchell | October 6, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Laura D
Amen! these obama people arent just stuck in the 60s theiy are stuck in the 1860s there will be no reparations going through congress if Obama is elected thats pure crazieness
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
I’ve learned a lot about Republicans this year. They will do or say anything to maintain their power. They are masters at twisting lies, divisive, and double talking. I thought it was race with Obama at first, but I’ve come to realize that its because they are threatened by someone who is so intelligent that he doesn’t have to bend over to scoop $hit like Mc Cain or p imp out the Governor of Alaska to do their bidding.
Posted by: You've done enough damage Repubs | October 6, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
“McCain is lying?”
According to Polifact so far this election: McCain has made statments that qualified as
Barely True: 27 times
False: 25 Times
Pants on Fire: 6 Times.
So the answer is yes.
McCain is lying.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 6, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
staniam: Wachovia’s fall began in 2001 when it was bought by First Union Corp. In 2006 the Golden West Financial Corp was the nail in the coffin.ACORN had nothing to do wiyh it.|
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
mack
yea the only reason the polls changed was that a few weeks ago mcain sad the fundamentals are strong in the economy …the fundamentals he was talkign about was theamerican worker and the institutions themselves.. its the greedy people that used underhanded tactics… like they are used to using in the Obama campaign that are the bad apples
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Republicans, why can’t you accept it: YOU HAVE NOTHING. You have no ideas that have not already been tried over the last 8 years, all of which have failed miserably.
It is time for you to go back and regroup. Come back in 4 years as a principled party of true conservatives. No nation building and no deficits. It isn’t that hard. For now, you guys really suck.
Posted by: Leo | October 6, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
staniam,
So what. I don’t care what Kerry did or didn’t do in 2004. Why do you McFluffBunnies always bring up the past. We will wait and see who is your next POTUS. Hopefully not the maverick wannabees.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
stan,
Yep, Obama mocks us for “clinging to our guns and religion”. That’s his opinion of “white people” I guess.
He thinks white independent and swing voters are going to vote for him??
They say we are racists if we don’t vote for a guy who says these kind of things?? And sits for 20 years under Rev. Wright preaching hatred of “white America”???
That’s racist.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
“The polls change weekly. I wouldn’t get too comfortable.”
More like the polls changed for 1 week.
Obama held the lead all summer.
McCain grabbed the lead for 1 week in his convention bounce.
Obama has since regained and held the lead since.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 6, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Dear John and Sarah
That big sucking sound is the sound of air going out of your campaign.
Posted by: Paul L | October 6, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Linda
golden west is an example of what obama would use in funneling money to poor people that cant handle it,… that still doesnt make what acorn has done legal
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
mcain sad the fundamentals are strong in the economy …the fundamentals he was talkign about was theamerican worker and the institutions themselves..
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 4:42:17 PM
What are you now? A Sarah Palin parrot?….lol That is word for word what she babbled….lmao
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Ryan C
… your going to lose and you cant handle it
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Sarah Palin:
“By the way, did I mention Obama is black?”
Posted by: Jeff | October 6, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
J
its the truth … you can be smug all you want but you dont know how to win an election and so youre goignto be left trying to explain yourself when you lose
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
I am happy to hear at least 1 of the candidates is still willing to talk about the serious matters at hand, such as the economic crisis. I really could care less about smear tactics and garbage talking. I want to know how the economy will be restored for middle-class Americans so we can begin having better days.
Oh and by the way, when Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain talk about representing people like themselves-who are they really talking about b/c I’m an average American but I DO NOT share the same ideals as they do.
I want to see progression not regression!
Posted by: Ryan | October 6, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
You know what is really funny…
In spite of the ongoing Ayres attacks.
In spite of the ongoing Wright attacks.
In spite of the ongoing Larry Sinclair attacks.
In spite of flag pins.
In spite of fake Obama-Muslim emails.
In spite of accusations of sexism and ageism.
In spite of the Obama is a commie attacks.
In spite of the ongoing Rezko attacks.
Obama is still ahead of McCain by a healthy margin, both in national polls and battleground polls.
Do you know why? Because the McCain attacks are baseless and the public knows this.
If McCain had the nerve to talk issues, he might actually be doing better. But he is afraid to answer real questions about our future. Why? Is he hiding something? Does he not understand the issues? Does he not care? Who knows!?
But that’s why McCain is suffering in the polls. He’s talking about trivial issues, while Obama is talking about substance.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Please stop about this racist crap.
I am an Obama supporter and have not called any intelligent person not voting for him a racist. Those people who do post racist comments about him blatantly, I will say something.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
I really think Sarah Palin should talk about all the things Rev. Wright said about “white America” that Obama sat under for 20 years saying “amen!” to.
That matters.
THEY ARE RACISTS AND THEY DON’T GET CALLED ON IT!!!
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
laura d
yea to folow their logic just look at how Colorado has changed back to mccain and missouri has been on mccains side for a while…they dont even believe what they are saying should leave right now before their chickens come home to roost!
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Sarah Palin started the negative attacks last Saturday. Yes, our miss lipstick on a pitbull is back in action.
It’s a pity that McCain has chosen this path while there are so many opportunities left to prove that he is worthy of the presidency. He behaves like a raging maniac, slandering people around him.
Posted by: CLabs | October 6, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
all I say is you better get some religion its in your own interest
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 4:34:55 PM
You know there would be less wars in the world without religion.
Posted by: diz | October 6, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
What does that even mean?
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
“”The polls change weekly. I wouldn’t get too comfortable.”
More like the polls changed for 1 week.
Obama held the lead all summer.
McCain grabbed the lead for 1 week in his convention bounce.
Obama has since regained and held the lead since. ”
The point is that it has been very close most of the way with obama usually a couple of points ahead.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
J
its the truth … you can be smug all you want but you dont know how to win an election and so youre goignto be left trying to explain yourself when you lose
Posted by: staniam | Oct 6, 2008 4:46:23 PM
I suppose you think McCain’s dirty tactics are ok? To me that means they don’t have anything. Explain to me what McCain is going to do for us.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
blip
its understandable that you dont even grasp simple declarative statements
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Listen “J”!!!
You people have SLAMMED Governor Palin for being a woman from Alaska.
You have just ripped her to shreds and called her ANYTHING but intelligent.
You have NO RESPECT for people who don’t agree with you… and y’all ripped her up…
and you can face your wrath!!
YOUR PEOPLE HAVE PLAYED THE RACE CARD -
while at the same time ripping Sarah Palin to pieces on a cultural basis.
Well, you are going to lose this election.
America has seen ENOUGH!!
It’s gonna happen. This truth is going to come out all that has been said to intimidate white people into voting for Obama or being called “racist” while at the same time you are so vicious towards Governor Palin and won’t let YOUR RACIST OBAMA BE ADDRESED WITH HIS RADICAL LEFT ASSOCIATIONS!!
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
J
I dont have to answer that because obama doesnt tell us what hes going to do
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
If you are making less than $250,000 a year and not voting for Obama then you should have your head examined. And come on Matt at 2:17 p.m….like the McPain/Palin campaign wasn’t going to trot out Rev. Wright sooner or later? That’s OK, wait until America gets a look at Palin’s witch-hunting pastor or her other pastor who said anyone speaking out about George Bush will burn in hell. Palin has her own pastor problem. So bring it.
Posted by: Mark Billingsley | October 6, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
“Sarah Palin started the negative attacks last Saturday”
I live in a swing state and I’ve been bombarded with attack ad after attack ad from the Obama campaign for the last month, with very little response from McCain. Not really sure why McCain doesn’t have more ads.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
laura d
yea its these cultist liek we have up here in some biosphere in the western NC mountains that are all comign out of the woodwork all over the country.. they think its ok since Wright and rezko and ayers etc are getting good publicity…I say… literally crawl back under the rock you came from!
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
To the person who responded to the “Timothy McVeigh” comparison by giving examples of “getting advice from him in his living room or something like that” and “continuing to work with him” etc….what you people seem to forget is (1) the event at this Ayers’ guy’s home was a fundraiser to introduce Obama as the democratic nominee for senate..Ayers was a prominent memeber of the democratic party…it likely had nothing to do with Obama’s choice of where to have the event. Second, you forget that this guy was a radical in the 60′s for god’s sake, just like lots of other people were radicals in the 60′s…..he is NOW a professor at a university….no one else is “shunning” him because of what he did 40 yrs ago…why would Obama??? It has NOTHING to do with Obama. He isn’t an advisor or close friend…this is just ridiculous! I loved what the British poster said….”now everyone who he’s said good morning to must now be linked to him” ! The same poster also states humorously that “next we’ll hear that Obama’s mother was listening to Radio Berlin when she was pregnant and, therefore, he must be a communist”. Guess what…in case you didn’t know; they are already calling him a communist! Someone said this to me and I asked her if she didn’t think our CIA would have been able to uncover this fact? She said “no”. She said he will get elected and turn the US into a communist country….hmmm… I’m not sure how he will do that exactly, being that we have a Congress, not to mention the American people, who might put up just a little fight about that…..oh, wait a minute; I know how he’ll do it…..I forgot he is the Antichrist, so I guess he has supernatural powers and that’s how he’ll accomplish that! Okay, I get it now.
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Mack
yea I know of a few satanists who attended the obama rally in asheville thats beyond bizarre … there are still peopel with religion in this country and its not ok for the anti religion people to come out just because obama says its ok for them to
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Look, I don’t think that Sarah Palin’s formal address of the Alaskan secessionist party AS GOVERNOR makes her ineligible for VP.
Very recently she actually addressed their convention! As governor! And they don’t even want to be Americans. They want to break off from the USA!
If you are gonna talk about someone marginally associated with Obama who committed a crime when he was 8 years old… you kind of have to talk about Palin’s recent, unrepentant embrace of a secessionist anti-American, militia movement (and her husband’s membership in that party).
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
staniam: I’ve been reading your posts and bias is glaring. Don’t vote for Obama…nobody cares. Atleast come on here and state facts and not lies and half truths. I bet your main source of news is Hannity and Faux News. FACT: Obama never worked for ACORN, never organized for them,never trained organizers for them. He did however handle a lawsuit for them and others that sued Gov Edgar to enforce the FEDERAL Voting Access Law which by the way the US Justice Department joined in the lawsuit.Fact Obama never had a fund raiser at Ayers house.He did go there as MS Palmer successor for HER run for Congress. They served on some boards together… so what.Maybe your not old enoughtoremember what it was like during the Vietnam War. I do it was crazy times and people did crazy things.Read about Kent State and the students killed there…I dare you to get informed……
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
DON’T BELIEVE THE McCAIN LIES!!
McCain wa one of the dirtiest of the Keating Five…
McCain was the closest socially to Keating of the five senators…. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.
In addition, McCain’s wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating’s expense, sometimes aboard Keating’s jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating’s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay.
McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln.
Posted by: Davis | October 6, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
“The agitator’s job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the “realization” that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and corporations will see imminent “self-interest” in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.’
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Karen
nope…… the electoral college wil miraculously be stuck at 269-269 on election day and you will be stuck with Palin as VP whom you villified
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Posted by: laura d | Oct 6, 2008 4:52:24 PM
How am I supposed to respect a woman that doesn’t know what magazines she reads, doesn’t know what the vp did when she was first chosen and thinks she has foreign policy experience because she is near Russia.
That wink wink, I am just like you bs doesn’t work on me. Sadly some of you fall for that crap.
I have not played the race card, so don’t accuse me of doing so.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Why doesn’t McCain insult & rant & rave about the university where Ayres teaches & the students he teaches or the comittees he sits on? Are all the other professors, students etc…”palling” around with a terrorist? How about the people in Ayres lives- they must all “pal” around with terrorist too? The whole arguement is stupid and fake- just desperation from a losing campaign.
Posted by: Jackson in NC | October 6, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
You gotta judge a tree by their fruits.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
You keep talking Governor Palin. All these people who have ripped you to pieces because you are a pro-life white woman who they had ZERO RESPECT FOR can watch you expose OBAMA for just hte radical left racist with terrorist ties he really is.
That’s just poetic justice.
OBAMA is going to lose the white independent and swing vote as you keep speaking the TRUTH about OBAMA.
You people ripped on her for being a mother. For being a white woman on the Republican ticket who was prolife.
You have ticked off a lot of people – and it’s just poetic justice that the pitbull is coming to rip the throat out of hte lies of OBAMA and his RADICAL LEFT associations.
You’re going to lose – and you deserve to lose.
That man has ZERO qualifications to be President and has done NOTHING in office – and you want to elect him BECAUSE HE’S BLACK!!
That’s racist. I’m sick of all the names being thrown at Governor Palin and people that support her by this DIRTY OBAMA CAMPAIGN AND SUPPORTERS.
Look what you did to Governor Palin.
LIfe is pretty fair. What comes around goes around. She’s gonna rip Obama up so bad with a smile and a wink – you’re gonna lose this election… as you so richly deserve for the way you all treated Governor Palin,imo
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Why do we ignore McCain’s “own Bill Ayers”?
G. Gordon Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy’s radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May.
Posted by: Bret | October 6, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
If he has to lie about his past,
if his supporters have to resort to name calling and mudslinging,
if he has to change the subject every time his role in the financial crisis is mentioned,
if he has to make starring claims to bills he did not sponsor,
if accepts truth squads and camps that indoctrinate children to his status as the ‘alpha and omega’,
if the FEC has to question his illegal contributions from foreign resources,
if his organization has to commit voter fraud for him in the swing states and subvert democracy,
if he has to hide his thesis, his birth certificate and his relatives in Kenya,
if he buys his home with a $1.32 million mortgage with a below average interest rate and no points,
if he receives the second highest contribution from Fannie Mae,
if he has to cheat to win, what are these ideals he talks about?
Obama is about Obama and nothing else.
Posted by: len | October 6, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Don’t get excited, I am black, so I am not a racist.
The Obama cabinet will be black with some appointments:
Lewis Farakan
Jessie Jackson
Al Sharpton
Oprah Winfrey
Star Jones
These appointments will ensure that we get the things we are due.
Posted by: Pookie-Pookie | October 6, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
The McCain campaign’s response? :
“The Keating Five Investigation was “a political smear job on John [McCain].” WTH? He called Howell Heflin, who led the hearings, a “stooge” of the Democratic machine out to get poor, innocent John McCain.”
Wow, really? That’s not what McCain said in his book, Worth Fighting For:
“I made the worst mistake of my life by attending two meetings, the first with the chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, the government agency charged with regulating the practices of the nation’s savings and loans, and a week later with four bank examiners based in San Francisco who were at that time investigating the investment and lending practices of Lincoln Savings and Loan of Irvine, California, owned by my good friend and generous supporter Charles Keating.”
And it’s not what he was saying last year:
“I was judged eventually, after three years, of using, quote, poor judgment, and I agree with that assessment.”
But now that McCain is being called out for his role in the Keating 5 scandal, he has decided to cut and run from taking responsibility for his own actions.
Posted by: justice | October 6, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
blip
nope we elected someone who had enablers which is why most polticial scientitsts then said we will elect someone on the opposite circular poltical spectrum liek obama to reset things.. and I say we dont have to do that just because selecting of Bush in 2000 was a crime… what will you do if mccain gets more popular votes this time.. i will tell you what you will do you will allow a legal prcesss to go forward aftetr the election because the electoral count will likely not be legit like it wasnt in 2000 .
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
“FACT: Obama never worked for ACORN, never organized for them,never trained organizers for them. He did however handle a lawsuit for them and others that ”
“Since he graduated from law school, Obama’s work with ACORN and the Midwest Academy has ranged from training and fundraising, to legal representation and promoting their work.”
He barely knew them right? They were just community organizers from his block.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
laura d,
Name one thing that Palin has said that makes you think she has any clue.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Obama’s got some good intelligence on the ground. 12 Bones is the best barbecue in the southeast! I tell you what.
Posted by: lance | October 6, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
The thing that gets me is how well the “conservatives” know people like Alinsky! You know Alinsky better than scripture…
And you know why? Because the Republican party has adopted Alinsky’s tactics. If you replace the word “corporation” in the Alinsky quote with words like “Big Government,” “Liberals,” or “Mainstream Media”… you have Sarah Palin’s talking points.
It’s a shame the way the GOP tries to manipulate people into fear.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
pookie
reparations isnt one of them…and cant be taken seriously the only reason Obama is close to being elected is because hes not al sharpton or jesse jackson
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
That’s just it “J”… you have had zero respect for Governor Palin and you have ripped on her on so many personal levels.
Have I done that to your candidate??
No.
Uh-huh. I’ve just thrown back in his face all he did. But y’all just went all personal on Governor Palin from day one.
You have been AWFUL in your behavior and treatment in total contempt and disrespect for Governor Palin – and lemme tell you = America is TICKED.. on a lot of levels cuz you played DIRTY!!!
No grace. No respect.
Now take your medicine.
She’s gonna tear up your candidate with a wink and smile and steal your swing votes.
:)
She’s a pitbull. And the gloves are off.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
We haven’t slammed Palin because she’s a woman “from Alaska.” she’s getting slammed week after week because she lies..troopergate…off account e-mails …bridge to nowhere. then she comes across as a snarly mean-spirited witch. Wink wink..ah shucks.. Can’t even answer questions. She’s McCain’s attack dog.
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
blip
that proves my guilt by association point… just by mentioning alinsky… obama followed that doctrine
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
“Obama is about Obama and nothing else.”
Please read Len’s post. Spot on as usual.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I guess Bill O’Reilly simply got it right after he personally got to know Obama after doing a large interview for FOX.
O’Reilly: “this guy is tough and sincere.”
And tough and sincere is what we need and what we’ll get in the White House.
Viva Obama!
Posted by: foxy | October 6, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
linda
Im in NC and will offset your vote you dont have a prayer in NC and dont have a reason to be entusiastic
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Mack: State your source for your reply…show me where Obama did anything for ACORN except the law suit.Show me your source and i will gladly check it out!
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
ANYONE who votes for Barak H. Obambagoo has forfeit their right to live in this country! ANYONE who is not able to feel proud of their country and the BEST it has produced with Sarah Palin is NOT an American and NOT qualified to stand on our soil or even to look at our proud flag. Palin is the embodyment of motherhood to me, and who cannot LOVE their mother? And us guys want to “Drill Baby Drill!” everytime we see her! McCain/Palin o8! REAL AMERICANS PUT COUNTRY FIRST AND YOU CANNOT PUT COUNTRY FIRST IF YOU DON’T LOVE AMERICA MORE THAN YOU LOVE YOUR RACE!
Posted by: R | October 6, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I forgot about Liddy!
He actually gave money to McCain in 2008! And McCain kept it!?!!? That is absolutely stunning.
Liddy actually advocated killing law enforcement on his radio show. And this was shortly before the Oklahoma City Bombing!
I didn’t think anybody would accept money from Liddy. That guy is no Ayers…. he’s worse many times over.
Where’s the proof McCain worked with him? I can’t believe that. A Liddy association might totally destroy McCain’s chances outright.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
foxy
his isnt a banana republic if obama is elected he will not wear flowered shirts he will conform to the washington norm
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
linda
he did work for accorn and is using them to hide large campaign contributions mccain wants to eliminate them you are a dumb north carolinian … some are smart who live here
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
“Uh-huh. I’ve just thrown back in his face all he did. But y’all just went all personal on Governor Palin from day one.”
They’re having a ball with her on SNL. It’s fine to make fun of and attack a typical American. No mention of the golden calf though. That would be racist.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
R… I’m looking at the flag!
I’m not leaving America.
I’m voting for Obama.
heeehheeee!
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
J
ignorant but justified… sounds remotely like trust but verify… obama doesnt want us to verify!
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
staniam: Vote for who you want and we’ll see how it all plays out. My quess is the college vote will be the key. Charlotte and Raleigh and Durham are all Obama land. Where I live outside of Wilkesboro thye will vote dem down ticket but NEVER for a black man. Sad but true.
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
blip
oh but you will when he loses and you know he will
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
can we get back to talking about the great barbecue at 12 Bones, please?
Posted by: lance | October 6, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
See that’s just it, J. You have no respect. You gotta understand. She reminds me of my very own mother… and all my friends. Everything you RIPPED on her about – well, the personal stuff about her family… well, we’re all just like her in her personality and life experiences.
I have an IQ, my dear friend “J”, that my teachers say cannot be measured. Now, that don’t mean I’ll always talk like I do. But you wanna call anyone who doesn’t agree with you “stupid” or “ignorant” or just get downright DIRTY and nasty and mean… like you did with Governor Palin.
We don’t much appreciate it.
What has she done to earn your respect?? She has real experience. She isn’t just a “talker”. She has a real track record in Alaska of dealing with corruption and going against her own party to do it.
She took on the oil companies. She took a budget and made it right and gained a surplus while giving money back to the Alaska people.
She isn’t just a “talker” like OBAMA – she has REAL EXPERIENCE.
And you want me to respect mere talk?? When there’s real experience to show her intelligence as a capable executive??
Lemme tell ya what, when Obama supporters started calling someone we love “white trash” with zero respect for a white woman from Alaska who is the Governor of a state – you’re racists.
And everything you have done is going to come back to haunt you in your total disrespect for an accomplished woman as you support a man who talks and talks and talks but has no achievement in experience and isn’t qualified or experienced enough to be President.
Governor Palin is going to smile, wink, and talk to the American people… and she’s gonna take your swing votes.
Get used to the idea.
Y’all messed with the WRONG woman. :) And people who will love her.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Linda
yep Sen Edwards would never have been elected but for predominently black college areas in eastern NC boy that was a mistake
Posted by: staniam | October 6, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
You have been AWFUL in your behavior and treatment in total contempt and disrespect for Governor Palin – and lemme tell you = America is TICKED.. on a lot of levels cuz you played DIRTY!!!
Posted by: laura d | Oct 6, 2008 5:05:26 PM
Wahh wahhh wahh. America is ticked at what has happened to this country.
Get a big girl pair of panties for the dirty playing, because your “girl” stirred up a hornets nest.
Your “girl” is going to blow any chance she had in the national spotlight. She’s in the big leagues now.
Why hasn’t she given press conferences They have asked her simple questions and she can’t answer them!
They asked her a question about the bailout the other night and she goes into talking about energy independence because she didn’t have a clue!
Pitbull? With or without lipstick….lol
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Oooh boy… I just googled some stuff about McCain and Liddy.
Dude… I am not going to even talk to Republicans anymore about Obama and Ayers if they can’t talk about McCain and Liddy.
Liddy is way worse that Ayers.
If a Republican tries to bring up the Obama-Ayers smear… and doesn’t admit the McCain-Liddy problem… they are disingenuous liars.
That’s just ridiculous. Liddy deserves part of the blame for OKC. That was a national tragedy. Shame on McCain for acting one way and talking another.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Palin is the embodyment of motherhood to me,
Are you kidding me. Have you seen the way she holds Trig. She has no interaction with him. It’s as if he is a rag doll and a prop. I have noticed this several times and my heart goes out for that little baby.
Posted by: lindy | October 6, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
staniam: Yes i know alot of smart people live here…just not you. Again give me the source for your outragous accusations about Obama and hiding money etc. Satinists at the campaign rally…Really you can’t even present a good lie. You’ve been watching to much of Hannity.
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
“Mack: State your source for your reply…show me where Obama did anything for ACORN except the law suit.Show me your source and i will gladly check it out!”
I copied that piece from an article that was in the Pittsburgh-Tribune-Review. It was written by Dateline D.C.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Americans like Clay Aiken, too. But that doesn’t mean he should be Vice President.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Linda – I believe there’s much about Obama and ACORN… I’ve read it. I’ll get you some info too.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
A lot of the right wingers here seem frustrated that the Dems aren’t willing to play nice and get Swift-Boated like they did in the last election. It must be frustrating when the Dem candidate doesn’t cave.
By far my favorite posts though are the ones saying the country will go down the tubes if Obama is elected. Um, hello?! See the stock market or the unemployment figures folks? The Republicans have already taken us down the tubes.
If McCain thinks the Ayres garbage can overcome his links to a president with a 28% percent approval rating, he deserves to lose the election.
Posted by: Bob | October 6, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
“A lot of the right wingers here seem frustrated that the Dems aren’t willing to play nice and get Swift-Boated like they did in the last election. It must be frustrating when the Dem candidate ”
How is stating the truth and asking for answers swiftboating? He doesn’t have to answer questions because he’s the media darling?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Enough already, none of you people are true Christians because of your anger and mean words. Choose the person that you want to vote for but you don’t have to put the other down. Obama is a man that happens to be Black but it should have nothing to do with the issues. If you were putting your country first then I would not read such HATE.
Posted by: Pricilla, Fontana CA. | October 6, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
You’re the one who is going to be crying “J”. You laughed and mocked, I’m sure, with all the other Obama supporters with no sense of civility – MOCKING Governor Palin because she has a Downs syndrome babyl MOCKING her because her teenage daughter is pregnant.
I’ve never seen such a horrid display of hate and viciousness thrown at a woman.
Well, now you’re going to see how America loves her and how she captures the hearts of people and is gonna take your swing votes.
None of this was called for. It was because she was a white woman from Alaska who is prolife.
You’re going to see what comes of that.
Don’t you cry about Obama being called on his lying, his dirty deals with Rezko, his associations with ACORN, and with a US terrorist in Ayers.
These are facts.
These aren’t attacks on him for being a black man who cameon the Democratic ticket. They aren’t personal attacks like you launched at Governor Palin for being a white prolife woman running for Vice President of her party.
You showed no respect. But she’ll smile, wink, and just tell the truth about OBama.. and take all your swing votes.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
“Americans like Clay Aiken, too. But that doesn’t mean he should be Vice President.”
Which state is Clay Aiken the Governor of again?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
McCain’s campaign plans on cutting the budgets for medicaid and medicare. With people’s retirement accounts suffering under Bushonomics… I think McCain is probably going to lose the one demographic group where he is actually doing ok: Senior citizens.
It’s like he’s trying to lose.
He runs around telling blatant lies. He disses Americans by calling them whiners. He says that his campaign needs to move beyond the economy and focus on character attacks. He picks a neophyte numbskull as a running mate. And then he pulls increasingly erratic stunts to try to get press coverage.
It’s like he is trying to lose.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Enough already, none of you people are true Christians because of your anger and mean words. Choose the person that you want to vote for but you don’t have to put the other down. Obama is a man that happens to be Black but it should have nothing to do with the issues. If you were putting your country first then I would not read such HATE.
Posted by: Pricilla, Fontana CA. | Oct 6, 2008 5:22:13 PM
Pricilla, You are right, these lying democrats aren’ Christians..I was wondering what is wrong with them, now I know..thanks
Posted by: Surfside | October 6, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Yes, Obama, what do we need to do? Well it’s simple my lad:
Today–
It is very important for (Treasury) Secretary (Henry) Paulson and Federal Reserve Bank Chairman (Ben) Bernanke to move swiftly and try to restore confidence as quickly as possible,” Obama said.
Obama also called for a new economic stimulus package and the extension of unemployment insurance and said the government must address structural problems in the economy including in the housing market.”
Oh, okay, sounds like real well-thought out and solid plan to me….
These word mean nothing! “address structural problems”…”move swiftly”…”restore confidence”…tax relief would be good…for businesses too.
Unemployment extension–not good.
Also, question for you Bob…are democrats at all to blame for the crisis, or is it all republicans? If you answer the former, you are blind.
Posted by: Wade | October 6, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
“I’ve never seen such a horrid display of hate and viciousness thrown at a woman”
Even worse than they treated Hillary.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Oops meant the latter…heh
Posted by: Wade | October 6, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Stanley Kurtz on Obama and ACORN:
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Don’t disparage Clay Aiken… He has travelled to more countries than Sarah Palen… and he is much smarter than her.
And he has certainly answered more questions about his record than Palin… which ought to count for something. She won’t even talk to the MSM, due to the conspiracy.
And, at least Aiken didn’t use his success to have his sister’s ex-husband fired.
Clay Aiken has a lot going for him.
Just because he is more popular than her, does not necessarily mean he is less qualified.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Not this time, not this year. Americans will not chose a president based on the Republican politics of fear and smears. This time the country needs new ideas and leadership that refuses to give us failed neocon policies. The Republicans had 8 years as president and 12 years in congress to prove their economic and foreign policies work and they have been dismal failures.
Posted by: KQuark | October 6, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
“Just because he is more popular than her, does not necessarily mean he is less qualified. ‘
That’s all well and good, but has he ever been the Governor of a State?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
So if McCain/Palin win is Palin’s witchdoctor going to give the evocation at the inauguration?
Posted by: KQuark | October 6, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
McCain’s campaign plans on cutting the budgets for medicaid and medicare. With people’s retirement accounts suffering under Bushonomics… I think McCain is probably going to lose the one demographic group where he is actually doing ok: Senior citizens.
It’s like he’s trying to lose.
He runs around telling blatant lies. He disses Americans by calling them whiners. He says that his campaign needs to move beyond the economy and focus on character attacks. He picks a neophyte numbskull as a running mate. And then he pulls increasingly erratic stunts to try to get press coverage.
It’s like he is trying to lose.
Posted by: Blip | Oct 6, 2008 5:25:23 PM
There you go listening to those democrats again, believing the lies.
Posted by: Surfside | October 6, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Mack,
I’ve never personally supported Hillary Clinton. However, I sincerely gained much respect for her when I saw how she was treated just for being a woman. I didn’t agree with some of her positions. But she is an intelligent woman with a great deal of experience and she DESERVED to be treated better by Obama, his supporters, the MSM, and even the crowd.
I will never forget seeing a heckler in the crowd bring an iron to a meeting to heckle her like she should be ironing Bill’s clothes.
I was very angry and I will do everything in my power personally (which may not be a lot) to see that Hillary Clinton is treated with respect WHENEVER she runs for ANY political office.
How these people have treated Governor Palin is even worse. It’s scandalous and despicable.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
“So if McCain/Palin win is Palin’s witchdoctor going to give the evocation at the inauguration?’
Will Reverand Wright be Damming America at Barry’s inauguration?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Posted by: laura d | Oct 6, 2008 5:23:41 PM
1.I HAVE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HER BABY. YOU LOSE ON THAT POINT.
2.GET OVER IT SHE’S IN THE BIG TIME NOW.
3.THIS IS NOT AMERICAN IDOL, DEAR, IT’S A PRESIDENTIAL RACE. I COULD CARE LESS WHO LOVES HER.
4.I AM NOT SURE WHERE YOU GOT THIS WHITE TRASH THING FROM BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER CALLED HER THAT.
5.ALL UNFOUNDED ATTACKS…..
6.I ASKED YOU TO NAME ONE THING THAT SHE HAS SAID THAT WAS PARROTING THE REPUBLICAN’S TALKING POINTS. SO FAR NO ANSWER. SHE SOUNDS LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.
NOTHING NEW, NOTHING THAT SHE CAME UP WITH.
7.RESPECT HAS TO BE EARNED, NOT GIVEN.IF SHE IS SO LOVED WHY ISN’T MCCAIN UP IN THE POLLS?
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
There you go MOCKING Governor Palin because an African minister prayed over her and she didn’t discriminate against him. She understood his African culture.
Governor Palin is much more tolerant and loving than any of you so called “liberals” who are bashing her.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Well, no, Clay Aiken has never been governor of Alaska. (But he is still more qualified).
If Clay Aiken were McCain’s running mate… I’m sure they could cook something up to pad his resume with. American Idol is broadcast in many, many countries… Which means his cup overfloweth with foreign policy experience.
As an ordinary guy who was lifted into the spotlight by the will of joe sixpack and jane hockey mom… he can reflect the dreams and aspirations of ordinary Americans.
You see, Clay Aiken is a Maverick, an outsider. So in some ways, his inexperience makes him even more qualified than Palin. Plus, such an erratic and irrational choice by McCain would prove just what kind of a Maverick he is.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
“How these people have treated Governor Palin is even worse. It’s scandalous and despicable.”
I agree. Out of the millions of people in this country, she is one of 50 state governors, yet they feel that it is ok to disrespect her accomplishments.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
J
You are so prejudiced against Governor Palin that you are not looking at her as an individual. She wasn’t just born 5 weeks ago. She has had her own career and is Governor of a state. In case you didn’t realize it, McCain isn’t for drilling in Alaska where she wants to drill.
She talks about it all the time anyway.
Guess that’s because she’s a smart, independent woman with a mind and a will of her own who speaks for herself on things that matter to her.
She’s not some “Barbie doll”. But that’s how you want to see her because you are prejudiced.
That’s not being a liberal, J, in practise.
I’m pro-life, but I’m also pro-affirmative action.
I think I’m truly more liberal in ways that are for equality without being wrong-headed and causing harm than you.
“Do no harm”. Abortion causes harm to a baby. I can’t be for that. It’s contrary to all sound ethics.
You shouldn’t hate Governor Palin just because she sees abortion different than you do. To her, it doesn’t take away a woman’s right.
She’s not some sort of monster, and she’s not a “Barbie doll” either.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
What is all this “non-christian” stuff.
The GOP is not a Christian party. Christ would never invade Iraq or advocate for the execution of criminals.
For that matter, the Democrats are not a Christian party, either.
Calling either political party “Christian” is blasphemous. It puts in Christ’s place all the sort of mundane crap that we are talking about here.
The secular world belongs to caesar. McCain and Obama belong to Caesar.
Now which leader we pick has some implications for the world. But don’t even try to pretend that one party is Christian and the other is Anti. Because it just isn’t true.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
“There you go MOCKING Governor Palin because an African minister prayed over her and she didn’t discriminate against him. She understood his African culture.”
It’s like when Obama was wearing that Islamic garb in those pictures. There was outrage and cries of racism.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Blip, you are getting a little silly with the Clay Aiken stuff…Get real.
Sarah is a real person and does many of the same things as normal people do everyday, and she is not like the Washington pupits.
Posted by: Surfside | October 6, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
“Well, no, Clay Aiken has never been governor of Alaska. (But he is still more qualified).”
Okay you win. Clay Aiken for President!(since he is more qualified than Obama)
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
That’s right, Mack. It’s rabid hate that Governor Palin has faced. She’s a woman of great dignity and character who has risen above these awful attacks on her personally in so disrespectful of manners.
It just shows the DIRTY politicking that has been part of this race since Governor Palin was introduced.
I think as she smiles and just tells the truth… she can take more votes from Obama than he has any clue that she’s going to take.
People should look at the stories by Stanley Kurtz and start to learn the truth about Obama. They should buy Stanley Kurtz’ book – but can at least read some of the articles to find out about radical groups that hate “white America” and all his associations.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Laura D,
I never said I hated her. For me she has not shown me that she has a clue to what is happening in this country. This was just a ploy by McCain to get Hillary supporters.
There were plenty of other Republican women that have more intelligence than this one. It worries me that when asked a question about what magazines she reads, she couldn’t answer the question.
Along with all the lies she has told about his and that. (Troopergate, Bridge to Nowhere, The Darfur thing, among others).
It is condescending to me for her to act as if she was one of us. That winking etc. made her look like a high school cheerleader. How am I supposed to take her seriously?
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
The bottom line is that McCain/Palin are behind. THEY have announced they will go negative to switch the conversation. I as a voter have a problem with that.
Now, let’s think about this. I have read the Rezco issue and Obama was exhonerated of any wrong doing. He went to the newspaper and answered all questions. He also was vetted on the Ayers thing where he had a VERY loose association with him.
Now, lets look at his former pastor. That has been looked at so many times and found the same as when it started. IF you believe Obama in not participating in it your mind has not been changed. IF you do not your mind has not been changed. THERE is NOTHING Obama can do to change minds now.
Palin has been ugly with Obama. ANY protections as being a woman and being picked on b/c she is a woman- gone!!!! She attacked Biden without any return of fire. She has attacked Obama without any return of fire.
Let’s either get to the issues or waste our time on old news on both side. Don’t forget McCain has a lot of dirt as well. Oh and by the way who doesn’t?
Posted by: V | October 6, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Laura…
I’m pro-life. But you are delusional if you think that the GOP is the alternative to the Democrats.
Cindy McCain has been assuring many women that the GOP will not touch Roe v. Wade.
But more importantly, there are many other aspects to the life issue: wars, capital punishment, infant mortality rates, suicide, and unnecessary deaths due to lack of propoer medical care, poor regulation, and unsafe environment.
The Democrats are horrible on abortion. But under Clinton, abortions did acutally go down, even if the law didn’t change.
Republicans talk a good game on abortion… but do their policies actually preserve human lives? Hardly.
I don’t want to vote for Obama… but he better than McCain. I cannot tell you how many women will choose abortions or how many people will die from GOP policy…
But using history as a guide suggests that Obama is going to be a net positive over McCain if your cause is the preservation of human life.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
”
Mack
“How these people have treated Governor Palin is even worse. It’s scandalous and despicable.”
I agree. Out of the millions of people in this country, she is one of 50 state governors, yet they feel that it is ok to disrespect her accomplishments. It’s rabid hate.
”
No, I don’t hate her. It’s all projection from you, the McCain supporters. You hate Obama and think therefore others hate Palin.
We just don’t agree with her and think she just doesn’t have enough intellect for the job as VP (okay, she is dumb).
Posted by: CLabs | October 6, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Blip, still believe he is a Muslim, and just what do you call Rev Wright? Maybe he is Muslim also. If Obama is a Christian, why does he judge? “Judge not least you be judged”>
Posted by: Surfside | October 6, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Did you know, Mack, that Obama had supporters of his jam the lines at WGN where Milt Rosenberg was going to interview Stanley Kurtz?? See, Obama told his people that Stanley Kurtz was lying and so to SILENCE Stanley Kurtz.
Truth is, Stanley Kurtz researched all about Obama and was giving facts and the truth about Obama.
And Obama didn’t want the truth to come out.
But Obama’s supporters deserve to know the truth about Obama just like the rest of the American people. Truly open-minded people would read all Stanley Kurtz has to say – cuz he can prove what he’s saying about Obama that Obama wanted Kurtz to be intimidated from saying.
Guess Obama has plenty to hide – even from his own supporters. I think people ought to read what Stanley Kurtz has to say and learn more about Obama…. cuz he’s a tricky one that man is. He likes to stop people from speaking out… and that’s not what America believes in. Obama tries to stop free speech. That’s not American and that’s against our civil rights.
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
laura d,
You still haven’t answered my question about Sarah Palin answering something that wasn’t being a parrot for the GOP. I am still waiting. I just asked you to name one thing.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
“We just don’t agree with her and think she just doesn’t have enough intellect for the job as VP (okay, she is dumb).”
And which state are you the Governor of? Don’t tell me, you’re a rocket scientist?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Oh… no… Aiken would not be a good President. He’d just be better than Palin. And, I think if McCain picked him….
You’d be gushing with praise for him, too.
McCain picked a poor candidate. She seems like a decent, though flawed, person… like anybody else. But exceptional challenges call for exceptional people. Obama is an exceptional person. He has risen to the top in everything he has done. He is pragmatic and driven. And as the first black man elected, he will have the weight of history on his shoulders.
He has no choice but to govern well and to govern fairly.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
It is amazing that the republicans want to stoop so low as to try and tie Senator Obama to Ayers a former member of the Weather Underground and now a college professor and activist in Chicago and yet refuse to realize that Palin is MARRIED to a man who is a card-carrying member of the AIP for many years and who neither Palin nor Todd has distanced themselves from. Palin even went so far as to videotape welcoming comments to their annual convention as a sitting Governor.
Posted by: FACINGREALITY | October 6, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Which begs the question, who cares about abortion when were electing a president? Or are you just being wedge-issued into voting for an irrelevant VP based on an irrelevant stance on an irrelevant issue? She is not a barbie doll . She is me and you. Do you want me or you running the country, and the economy of the world?
Posted by: Dakotah | October 6, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
“Did you know, Mack, that Obama had supporters of his jam the lines at WGN where Milt Rosenberg was going to interview Stanley Kurtz?? See, Obama told his people that Stanley Kurtz was lying and so to SILENCE Stanley Kurtz.’
They do what they’re told, like dogs. They do their master’s bidding, and need to be told what to think and what to say.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
You don’t have to be smart to get elected…
Look at our current president.
Posted by: Blip | October 6, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Ok it’s time to fight fire with fire. Obama you have to take the gloves off and get down and dirty like Palin and McCain. Playing the good guy will not work. Let’s start with McCain and the Keating five followed by his affinity for gambling, Lets add Palin and her witchdoctor pastor in Alaska followed by her association with her husband’s wish to have Alaska cede from the USA. As they say in my hometown of Chicago “Politics ain’t bean bag”. Its on!!!!!!
Posted by: Thomas | October 6, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Blip, I’m an independent voter. I agree with you on the importance of other matters. But here’s the thing. It’s a matter of character.
We have to be for justice. And we have to be for justice for those who cannot speak for themselves. We have to be for babies and for justice for them first.
Now, if a person does not care for the justice of a little baby living – then their character really isn’t for justice for people out of love for people, the way I see it.
Obama voted 3 times in the Illinois legislature to cause babies that were born alive to die – with no medical care, no love, no comfort.
That’s not justice. That’s not love. That’s not the America I believe in.
I can’t believe in anything Obama says – because he doesn’t love the least and he doesn’t care for justice for the least. Then there’s something else in his character that is why he’s doing what he’s doing. No Senator in the US voted against caring for babies born alive. Only Obama practised infanticide.
That’s cold. That’s really cold.
What more is he capable of?? What else is in his heart?? How could his conscience allow that vote when all US Senators voted unanimously to protect babies who were born alive??
Who is this man, really?? We see a good speaker… but who is he really??
Posted by: laura d | October 6, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Distraction, Hate and Fear. It’s all Republicans have. No ideas, failed policies, failed ideology. Same old smear tactics that gave us Bush instead of Gore, that gave us Bush instead of Kerry. Proof’s in the pudding. How does Bush taste now?
Posted by: thebob.bob | October 6, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Posted by: Thomas | Oct 6, 2008 5:55:55 PM
Now don’t pick on Sarah, laura d says that is disrespectful…lol
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Posted by: laura d | Oct 6, 2008 5:57:07 PM
Just what I thought. You can’t come up with one thing Sarah has said that she wasn’t parroting.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
“Obama is an exceptional person. He has risen to the top in everything he has done.”
Yes, he has done well for HIMSELF. It is all about him. His relationships with Ayers and Wright have been strictly for political gain. Politically calculated moves to get him to the next level. He’s moved from position to position, without ever really accomplishing anything meaningful or lasting. Who really knows what his motives are?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Distraction, Hate and Fear. It’s all Republicans have. No ideas, failed policies, failed ideology. Same old smear tactics that gave us Bush instead of Gore, that gave us Bush instead of Kerry. Proof’s in the pudding. How does Bush taste now?
Posted by: thebob.bob | Oct 6, 2008 5:59:04 PM
If the republicans could get the media to give their candidate the respect that they are giving this ******* we would give you McCain and not Obama.
Kerry was on tape saying the things that caused his demise. Bush had been a great governor, and he has messed up some things as President, uh, then there was Clinton, you have to be really bad to do what he did in “our house”.
Posted by: Surfside | October 6, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Mack
“And which state are you the Governor of? Don’t tell me, you’re a rocket scientist?”
Well Mack, if being elected means being intelligent the world would be a much saver place.
Look at these geniuses the people has elected.
- Jesse Ventura
- George W. Bush
- Dan Quale
- Berlusconi
But I really don’t hate her, I think she is smart in charming people, but not the VP material I think is needed.
Not that I’m suited as VP, but at least I know how to pronounce the word nuclear.
Posted by: CLabs | October 6, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
If McCain gets elected, I am going to do everything within my power to move out of the country. Then I will simply sit back and watch America tear itself apart… and I’ll actually smile. You older generations have no idea what kind of a younger generation is developing at this time. If we are unhappy with our country, we will simply leave and contribute to the success of another country instead. I am a member of what I think will come to be known as the global generation. We are not merely citizens of America, but citizens of this world. You can all go down with the ship. I’m simply going to go and help build a bigger, better one.
Posted by: Niko | October 6, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
“If we are unhappy with our country, we will simply leave and contribute to the success of another country instead. I am a member of what I think will come to be known as the global generation.”
Good luck trying to emigrate. You’d better start working on your Master’s degree.
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
laura d,
Here is what I was talking about earlier:(taken from the VP debate)
“Gwen Ifill: Governor, please if you want to respond to what he said about Sen. McCain’s comments about health care?
Sarah Palin: I would like to respond about the tax increases. We can speak in agreement here that darn right we need tax relief for Americans so that jobs can be created here. Now, Barack Obama and Sen. Biden also voted for the largest tax increases in U.S. history. Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people’s side and reduce taxes and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction, 94 times.”
What does that answer have to do with healthcare?
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
EVERYTHING that the libs say is a lie! It never fails! I’ve been watching this campaign very carefully and I have seen absolutely NOTHING that even comes close to “negative campaigning” from McCain/Palin!!! NOT a single time have either of the Republican candidates ever said a racial slur! NOT ONCE!!! They’ve NEVER lied or misrepresented themselves or their opponent! I have seen a true gentleman and real lady who are both decent, honest, intelligent, patient, warm and inspiring who have treated their opponents with kindness and fairness at every single turn!
In return, the Obama/Biden side has acted like children begging for attention from the cameras! They have NOTHING to offer except for a consistent pattern of lies and diversion tactics because they are desperate to change the subject to their old bag of tricks: race baiting, religious smears, prattling on-and-on about who is more patriotic and who is not, driving wedges between the rich and the poor, disrespect and disregard for our men and women in uniform, and utter crap about fabricated scandals based on lies and lies and more lies!
That’s all they ever have! Obama/Biden have just been about ONE thing and ONE thing ONLY: attack and lies! Over-and-ver again, they’ve lied about McCain/Palin and received no response, no counter-punch, no sneers or belittling comments, no put downs, nothing but a calm, respectful refutement of their lies (as much as possible, since it cannot be done to refute ALL of the lies at once for they are so numerous!) and a careful, optimistic and dare I say, always convincing presentation of the alternative!
By contrast, Obama/Biden are all over the map! They’ve changed their mind every day, sometimes two or three times a day it seems, as to what they are goign to do next, their position, their approach – you name it! If they’re not attacking Sarah Palin by inferring (oh, they’ll never say it outright the coward that they are) Christians are radicals and whacko fringe freaks, they just make up total lies about her record on things like taxes and Iraq! They do it with a straight face, and when McCain/Palin points out the truth, they get even meaner, angrier and more disrespectful like little children caught in a lie and determined to get their way!
Everyone knows the truth. Deny it all you want! Obama/Biden are trying desperately to highlight their losing agenda for the country, and they are trying to make McCain/Palin out to be “radical,” “suspicious,” “un-Christian,” outside-the-mainstream Americans from way off places like Alaska. In short, they are connecting the dots between their dirty yet never explicitly articulated attacks, so that the voters will think that Palin and Mac are UN-American, hardcore right wingers who just are not like the rest of us!
Yes, we’ve seen the Democrat party do this over-and-over, every single year. They always go negative and drag us through the mud and deny it in the end! But this time, I hope you like me will not be intimidated by it and will take the fight to them! We conservatives CANNOT afford to let them take the reins of government once again and run our economic and political future into a hole so deep we may never get out! LOOK at what they’ve done to the economy for the last decade or so! They try to blame US – it is absurd! – they try to blame Republicans for this MESS and we have not been the ones running things for the last 19 months except for the WH, SCOTUS and a virtual tie in the Senate! THEY have been running the ENTIRE federal government except for the WH for 8 years, the Senate for about 10 years with a virtual tie, the SCOTUS and the House for 12 years! I can hardly believe it when they just prattle off with lies about Republicans controlling the government for years and years which is NOT true! It makes me laugh with incredulousness! THey actually believe their own bulls*it but they can’t make up their own facts!
So there you have it! McCain/Palin is the clear answer for America!!! It is time for incremental reforms and a return to Reaganomics so that we can pass along to our children a shining thing upon a hill that twinkles when you wink at it!
Posted by: Ken, WING | October 6, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Ken WING
“I’m a uniter not a divider”
sounds familiar
Posted by: Omentum | October 6, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
And everything cons say is a whine, Ken. Seriously, I’ve never seen such a group of cry-babies as the modern Republican party. You can dish it out, but you can’t take it. That’s the sure sign of a loser, and that’s why Obama is going to be the next President of the United States.
Posted by: CarbonDate | October 6, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
“J” wrote:
Gwen Ifill: Governor, please if you want to respond to what he said about Sen. McCain’s comments about health care?
Sarah Palin: I would like to respond about the tax increases. We can speak in agreement here that darn right we need tax relief for Americans so that jobs can be created here. Now, Barack Obama and Sen. Biden also voted for the largest tax increases in U.S. history. Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people’s side and reduce taxes and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction, 94 times.”
What does that answer have to do with healthcare?
***
Dear J:
This is yet another libtard attempt to distort Gov. Palin’s record and spread outright lies because the facts don’t suit your side!
Gwen Iifell DID NOT ask the question that you wrote! It is a matter of public record – ANYONE can go watch a clip of the debate and it is clear – she asked very clearly about taxes and how in particular McCain/Palin would invoke conservative platitudes to prove to the people that they are on their side.
Gov. Palin’s answer was perfect, and she talked without using the un-necessary “G” at the end of “-ING” words! What really clinched it for me and most folksy folks across this great land of America was when she winked at the end which made me confused at first because I thought she was me and I was her! Then I realized that I was me still, and I knew that they would know what I knew I needed if I would vote for them as if they were me and elect McCain/Palin to let me win!
Posted by: Neuro-winkologist | October 6, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain/Palin and the Republicans
Posted by: republicans nomore | October 6, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Posted by: Blip | Oct 6, 2008 5:43:31 PM
Response:
Blip, how can you say that the Republican party is not the more Christian party? How can you possibly believe that it is “blasphemous” for a Republican to believe that the Republican party is not guided by the steady hand of God? America is a Christian nation founded by Christians and based on the Bible! The Bible that God gave the Republican party through his prophet Ronald Reagan, to defend and to wield as a weapon against the enemies of God which are the liberals and the communists and the denizens of Satan who don’t use their dirty parts correctly. How can you say that all that is good and right and just is not embodies in the Republican party, when everyone knows that Republicans are chosen by God to lead America? The Republican party IS God’s party and if you question it, you defy God himself!
Posted by: God's Party Right or Wrong! | October 6, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
blip,
I can’t tell if you are being serious or not. I sincerely hope are kidding.
America was founded by those people seeking religious freedom.
Posted by: jiml1956 | October 6, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
blip, sorry my recent comment was meant for GodsPartyRightorWrong.
Posted by: jiml1956 | October 6, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
“I served on a board with him, and so now, they are trying to use this as guilt by association.”
If Mr. Ayers committed a crime right now, and a prosecutor tried to charge Obama with the crime without evidence just because they are associates, that would be unjust. But if you work with people voluntarily, on projects where shared beliefs and likemindedness are important, then expect the association to matter to people. Besides both of them serving on the board of the Woods Fund, Ayers himself created and was heavily involved in one project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. He was co-chair of one of its three parts, the nuts-and-bolts part that dealt with education, while Obama was the first chair of the CAC itself and dealt with the money end. The CAC was Ayers’ baby, in other words, and Obama was its founding president and board chairman, and he was involved with it from ‘95-‘02. Obama sometimes reported to Ayers’ board, and Ayers sometimes reported to Obama’s.
And while Obama was chair at the CAC, it awarded about $600,000 in grants to the Small Schools Workshop, also created by Ayers and run by his former Students for a Democratic Society colleague (and in the nineties, professor colleague) Mike Klonsky. Klonsky was once the head of the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) in the U.S., and was one of the first Westerners to be allowed to visit China. At the time of the CAC’s founding, in 1995, Ayers described himself as a “radical, leftist, small ‘c’ communist” (“Sixties Radical,” Ron Chepesiuk).
Obama also launched his political career with a meet-and-greet when he ran for state senate in the Ayers’ living room. He was the chosen successor of Alice Palmer, whose seat he filled, who said herself that she’d attended a Communist Party congress in the Soviet Union. In 1997, Obama told the Chicago Tribune he was reading Ayers’ “A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court.” Obama and Ayers also had a couple of speaking engagements on university panels together: “Should a child ever be called a ‘super predator?’” and “Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?”
Then there’s also Obama’s ties to Saul Alinksy, the leftist who dedicated one of his books, “Rules for Radicals,” to Lucifer. I believe Obama came along after he died, but he worked for Alinsky’s followers. Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky, recently wrote a letter to the Boston Globe claiming Obama is using his father’s methods very effectively: “I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008.”
Sam Graham-Felsen, Obama’s official blogger and a journalist for The Nation, hung a Communist Party flag in his Harvard dorm room in 2003 (“The Four-Year Path to a Quincy Suite,” Harvard Crimsom) and published work in Socialist Viewpoint. A pro-communist band, the Decemberists, who play the Soviet anthem in Russian, opened and closed for him before 75,000 people in Portland, Oregon, on May 18. There are a number of other similarly questionable ties as well.
California Gov. Schwarnegger just vetoed a bill that would have overturned the state’s ban on the positive teaching of communism in schools, among other things. Schwarnegger said, “Many Californians have fled Communist regimes, immigrated to the United States and sought freedom in our nation because of the human rights abuses perpetuated in other parts of the world.”
There are young people who are old enough to vote today who don’t remember the Soviet Union, and most under 30 probably have little recollection of it beyond that it existed. Under communism, most people live like slaves. But so many Americans today are unaware of that. There’s corruption and brutality in both systems, but there’s no hope for change in communism. It’s pure dictatorship.
Posted by: Erika | October 6, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Laura d
“Obama voted 3 times in the Illinois legislature to cause babies that were born alive to die – with no medical care, no love, no comfort.”
Get your facts straight on this one… there was already a law on the books in IL that forbade partial birth abortions. The bills that O voted against contained wording that would, in essence, overturn Roe v Wade. The third bill finally included the constitutional wording that was included in the Federal bill and Obama WOULD have voted yes on that one but he was already in the US Senate when it came up for vote.
People who hear a snippet and take it for fact are the most dangerous people in this country… do you know that McCain voted against prosecution laws for the Domestic Terrorists who would bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors and nurses?????
Posted by: Show Me | October 6, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
“You better start working on your masters degree.”
I will be within the next five years. Still have to graduate from undergrad. Definitely ahead of the curve though.
Posted by: Niko | October 6, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Laura d
“Obama voted 3 times in the Illinois legislature to cause babies that were born alive to die – with no medical care, no love, no comfort.”
And McCain voted to allow their parents to be bombed at abortion clinics. Wouldn’t that take out two or more lives instead of just one? Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran… Bomb, bomb, bomb the clinics?
Weirdos you people are! You people are the biggest hypocrites plaguing our nation.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | October 6, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
The only thing Obama needs to do until Election Day is to keep asking this question:
How Can We Put Our Trust in a Man Like John McCain When He Betrayed His Crippled 1st Wife?
Keep Asking That Question and … “Game Over”.
Posted by: T Damion | October 7, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
I can’t see how anyone who loves America could fall for the lies of Palin/McCain. You’re not putting country first, you’re putting republicans first or your ideology first.
Judging by poll numbers, you are the small percentage that think Bush is doing a good job.
I am fifty years old, and in all my voting years, Barrack is the best candidate I’ve ever had the opportunity to vote for. He is the JFK or FDR of our generation. Four more years of Bush and there will be no America left.
McCain is an angry old arrogant, rich hothead, who will probably kick the bucket in his first term, leaving a beauty queen as president. She may be able to win over the president of Pakistan with her wares, but men like Putin will eat her alive. Or more likely, Karl Rove will be the controller of America for four more years.
This isn’t a beauty contest, it is the future of our country.
Posted by: Thomas | October 7, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Obama sits on his high horse pointing down at John McCain (true American, Military man, knows the meaning of suffering and putting himself not first but last) for mudslinging? What does Obama he think he is doing? Wearing a halo? I think NOT. Obama is a slimy, two faced scumbag, who tells San Fran elites that Pennsylvanians are bitter, gun clinging, religious fanatics. If you people in PA vote for Obama you are incredibly stupid. He made the biggest fools out of you before the entire Nation.
Posted by: ml | October 7, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
“show me:” please please please get OVER the Commie meme. Pick up a book. Maybe like the work of Marx/Engles and read the Communist Manefesto. It is a work of economic philosophy which, as any credible scholar will tell you, has never been truely implemented. Yes, that is right, the RED SCARE is a RED herring. The USSR under Stalin was a dictatorship. It remained a dictatorship for years, and the fact they slapped on a fresh coat of misunderstood and misapplied “Communism” does not change the underlying facts. Marx’s ideas were to take the means of production out of the hands of the few and put them into the hands of the workers themselves. There has been no country where this has happened. Taking the means of production out of the hands of powerful/rich private individuals and putting them into the hands of powerful/rich government individuals is NOT COMMUNISM as written as an econmic philosophy. See, people who are smart enough to go to Harvard often know enough to look past the surface of things. Having said that, as you might have gathered from my username I am no communist myself … nor do I believe in collectivism as Ayn Rand would say. But I do respect intelligence and competing ideologies as they truly are not as the fearmongering west would have you believe. And secondly, the Decemberists kick much indie rock booty. Sorry all music cannot be Brooks & Dunn.
Posted by: WhoIsJohnGalt? | October 7, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
Everybody who voted for President Bush in the last two elections needs to ask him or herself, “What was the deficiency in my reasoning process that caused me to vote (twice) for the worst president in living memory?” If people had the necessary insight to answer this question, there wouldn’t be any benefit to negative campaiging by either party.
Posted by: Kathleen | October 7, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
It was actually Roland Martin conducting the interview on the Tom Joyner Morning Show…
Posted by: ndmgill | October 7, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
WhoisJohnGalt?,
“True” communism has been tried by many “true believers” who brought about revolution, and it hasn’t worked. To claim communism works on paper proves nothing, even if, as you say, it’s “credible scholars” saying that it does. I’ve read the Communist Manifesto already; if you haven’t read many first-hand accounts of people who’ve lived and suffered under communism, maybe you should think about doing so. I just read one by a former North Korean who was unjustly imprisoned, called “Eyes of the Tailless Animals.” It’s a terrible story, to say the very least. For example, this woman saw her fellow prisoner and friend get executed before all of the prisoners for a careless, “anti-communist” remark.
The many failures of communism are well-known, so in the interest of time I will just mention a couple of them, in the form of questions that communism needs to address. Why do efforts to establish “true communism” instead create totalitarian dictatorships? And why do they crush human rights and freedom, not respecting the individual life and taking even the most the basic decisions of people’s lives out of their hands?
Posted by: Erika | October 8, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am