Obama Pitches Middle Class Rescue Plan

the partisan Branchflower Report cleared me of any unethical conduct despite the fact that the committee is dominated by republicans (10-4) and finding no. 1 of the report specifically stated that the vendetta against Wooten was a violation of Alaskan ethics laws.

Does this include Obama’s plan to “spread the weath around”. Where’s that story Jake?

Good ideas. Common sense. Not a plan forever, but to get things started. Looks well thought out.
Can anyone explain to me why McCain is even as close in the polls as he is? He will “fight” for us…but won’t say how.
Please America…don’t be fooled by McCain’s “nice guy” act these days. He’s the same angry person who stoked the fires of hate last week. And his running mate is the same (now proven and denounced) unethical person she was.
Don’t think this is done deal…its not done until everyone goes out and votes for Obama/Biden! Don’t sit this one out! Go vote!

My Friends after 8 years of failed policies in every realm of governance we need to make sure we keep the same policies and supporters of those policies out of office.
The choice of president could not be easier. With every passing day we find McCain looking for new ways to stay off topic whether its slander or giving empty political speeches.
Obama just came out with a plan that matters and looks out for 95% of the countries population – which in turn will take care of the entire country’s economy. I have friends who are losing JOBS over this economic meltdown. I don’t another 4 years of uncertainty and failures. We need a president who can understand us and lead this nation to prosperity again.

On “the issues” in these closing weeks, there really isn’t a very sharp or highly noticeable distinction to be made between the two nominees, and their “debates” have been cramped and boring affairs as a result. But the difference in character and temperament has become plainer by the day, and there is no decent way of avoiding the fact. Last week’s so-called town-hall event showed Sen. John McCain to be someone suffering from an increasingly obvious and embarrassing deficit, both cognitive and physical. And the only public events that have so far featured his absurd choice of running mate have shown her to be a deceiving and unscrupulous woman utterly unversed in any of the needful political discourses but easily trained to utter preposterous lies and to appeal to the basest element of her audience. McCain occasionally remembers to stress matters like honor and to disown innuendoes and slanders, but this only makes him look both more senile and more cynical, since it cannot (can it?) be other than his wish and design that he has engaged a deputy who does the innuendoes and slanders for him.
I suppose it could be said, as Michael Gerson has alleged, that the Obama campaign’s choice of the word erratic to describe McCain is also an insinuation. But really, it’s only a euphemism. Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear had to feel sorry for the old lion on his last outing and wish that he could be taken somewhere soothing and restful before the night was out. The train-wreck sentences, the whistlings in the pipes, the alarming and bewildered handhold phrases—”My friends”—to get him through the next 10 seconds. I haven’t felt such pity for anyone since the late Adm. James Stockdale humiliated himself as Ross Perot’s running mate. And I am sorry to have to say it, but Stockdale had also distinguished himself in America’s most disastrous and shameful war, and it didn’t qualify him then and it doesn’t qualify McCain now.
The most insulting thing that a politician can do is to compel you to ask yourself: “What does he take me for?” Precisely this question is provoked by the selection of Gov. Sarah Palin. I wrote not long ago that it was not right to condescend to her just because of her provincial roots or her piety, let alone her slight flirtatiousness, but really her conduct since then has been a national disgrace. It turns out that none of her early claims to political courage was founded in fact, and it further turns out that some of the untested rumors about her—her vindictiveness in local quarrels, her bizarre religious and political affiliations—were very well-founded, indeed. Moreover, given the nasty and lowly task of stirring up the whack-job fringe of the party’s right wing and of recycling patent falsehoods about Obama’s position on Afghanistan, she has drawn upon the only talent that she apparently possesses.
It therefore seems to me that the Republican Party has invited not just defeat but discredit this year, and that both its nominees for the highest offices in the land should be decisively repudiated, along with any senators, congressmen, and governors who endorse them.
I used to call myself a single-issue voter on the essential question of defending civilization against its terrorist enemies and their totalitarian protectors, and on that “issue” I hope I can continue to expose and oppose any ambiguity. Obama is greatly overrated in my opinion, but the Obama-Biden ticket is not a capitulationist one, even if it does accept the support of the surrender faction, and it does show some signs of being able and willing to profit from experience. With McCain, the “experience” is subject to sharply diminishing returns, as is the rest of him, and with Palin the very word itself is a sick joke. One only wishes that the election could be over now and a proper and dignified verdict rendered, so as to spare democracy and civility the degradation to which they look like being subjected in the remaining days of a low, dishonest campaign.

This is a GREAT 4 point rescue plan. Obama should run positive ads with his plan for the middle class.

Where are McCain’s proposals? I thought that McCain was going to unveil new proposals.
Obama has released new proposals which are really good.
All McCain talked about was “fighting”.

The government can never rescue us in the middle class. They can only screw us -like that plumber whose income Obama wants to take and give to his little acorns.

The truth is all Senator McCain could do today was bear teeth, bark, and pant out “fight.” He offered not one ounce of meat, not even a bone. Perhaps he’s just waiting for Obama to go first so he can continue to plagiarize and capitalize on Barack’s messages. John McCain is just another vintage cut from the old and rusty GOP divider mold that calls upon constituents to wage an interior battle against their own American brothers and sisters. I’m sorry but mavericks are loners not leaders. Here, the underdog and the pit-bull really do “dog” their campaign – and it smells as though they’ve stepped into it too.
You have got to see Obama’s speech where he lays out this economic rescue plan. Specifics Baby, Specifics!!!! The sharp contrast could not be more evident. This is a leader for ALL the people no matter how you define yourself or who you are or who you want to be.
Obama/Biden 08: Believe. Because Together We Cannot Fail!!!

“In the new proposal Obama calls for a temporary tax credit of $3,000 per job for firms that create new jobs in the US over the next two years. ”
If you have a programmer in India that earns 35k a year compared to a programmer that earns 85k a year here, 3k is not a enough incentive to bring those jobs back.

So Obama wants the middle class to empty out our meager 401k’s so we are totoally dependent on the goverment?
I told you so. Obama the socialist does not like us having 401ks

Obama’s economic plan for the middle class is well thought out, specific in details, and indicates he is a real leader with real ideas. McCain is out of ideas, and tells us he will fight to become President. Not one word from him on what to do about the economy. Just vaque generalities. Not good enough McCain. And your choice of VP is a joke, and is unethical as well!!

FARRAKAHN CALLS OBAMA THE “MESSIAH!”

So Obama wants the middle class to empty out our meager 401k’s so we are totoally dependent on the goverment?
I told you so. Obama the socialist does not like us having 401ks
Posted by: geevill | Oct 13, 2008 3:57:49 PM
I totally agree…Obama is a socialist and will be the downfall of America! Wake Up, America! Vote this guy out…..he will DESTROY America!

Last, the Obama plan would urge the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department to establish a facility to lend to state and municipal governments
and OBAMA would require a set aside to MINORITIES. Bank on that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Obama the Socialist,
The reason we have 401ks is because the Governemnt screwed up social security.
Why wasn’t Obama at the table requiring these conditions when the bill was passed?

Yes, I McSame can fix anything… I’ll just say the word and the economy will be fixed..ha ha ha!!! afterall the Lord says ‘let there be light and there was light’..ha hah ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!

The McCain wonderful, positive statement.
The American people heard a series of new proposals from Barack Obama today, but what they did not hear was a promise to stop pursuing his massive tax increases. As our economy and our financial markets struggle through unprecedented turmoil, one thing is certain: raising taxes on the American people and American business will have a devastating effect. When pressed on this point, Obama has repeatedly said he would consider abandoning his planned tax increases if the economy is ‘weak,’ but apparently this economy is not weak enough for Barack Obama. It is clear that the economy is hurting, that Americans need across-the-board tax relief, and yet Barack Obama has proven unwilling to break with the left-wing of his party and stand up for the American taxpayer.
“Interestingly, Barack Obama called a moratorium on foreclosures, which is a policy he had previously labeled ‘disastrous’ when it was proposed by a political opponent. Proving yet again that Barack Obama’s positions on the issues are tied to elections, not solutions for the American people.”

“welcome Senator McCain’s proposal to waive the rules that currently force our seniors to withdraw from their 401(k)s”
DOES OBAMA KNOW WHAT 401K PLANS EVEN ARE???????? THERE IS NO PENALTY FOR SENIORS.

FDR would be proud of Obama.

Obama is losing it…he thinks he’s already the President and is making these ridiculous proposals. What an idiot! Keep talking, NoBammy, you’re causing yourself to fall in the polls!

“angie, you are the CLUELESS one…when you have no retirement and are forced to worship Obama and Farrakahn, I will see you on this board crying your eyes out!”
LOL! You had me busting out laughing!
Posted by: Mack | Oct 13, 2008 4:07:07 PM
Laugh now, you’ll be crying later if this idiot Obama gets into office!

I believe that Treasury should not limit itself to purchasing mortgage-backed securities – it should help unfreeze markets for individual mortgages, for student loans, for car loans, and for credit card loans,” said the Illinois Democrat. “And I think we need to do even more to make loans available to two very important areas of our economy: small businesses and communities.”
now OBAMA wants subpar student loans, car loans and credit cards for his community of acorns.
OBAMA DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM WAS TOO MANY BAD LOANS!!!!!!!!!!!!

The first bailout plan that Bush pushed did not protect tax payers. That is why it did not pass the first time. Bush does not care about us. McCain does not either.

Wow, Obama puts out a productive PLAN for the economy; and all the left can do is attack…Not on his plan, but other stuff…HaHa, this is too funny.
Unless McCain shows up to this debate Wednesday with Bin Laden tied up and duck taped, this thing is over. And rightfully so, Obama is simply better.
O and Joe ’08 folks!

Wow, Obama puts out a productive PLAN for the economy; and all the right can do is attack…Not on his plan, but other stuff…HaHa, this is too funny.
Unless McCain shows up to this debate Wednesday with Bin Laden tied up and duck taped, this thing is over. And rightfully so, Obama is simply better.
O and Joe ’08 folks!

Why isn’t OBAMA 10 to 15 points ahead if he is so great!???
B/C he is unelectable!

“Laugh now, you’ll be crying later if this idiot Obama gets into office!”
It was the way that she worded her comment that had me cracking up. Believe me I’d vote for Todd Palin’s snow machine before I’d vote for Barry.

I don’t understand this guilt-by-endorsement stuff. There are plenty of bigots that have endorsed both candidates.
Farrakhan calling Obama “The Messiah” doesn’t change the fact that Obama has loudly and publicly denounced Farrakhan as a bigot.
The whole idea of guilt-by-endorsement insults my intelligence. I can’t control who sings my praises and neither can the candidates.

“Obama leads in states with 255 Electoral College votes while McCain is ahead in states with 163 Electoral College votes. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 300, McCain 174″
Why even bother to vote since it’s already over, Nostradamus.

More good sense and clear thinking from Obama.
Obama is running circles around McCain.

tax credit to businesses, treasury backed loans to state and local governments, something about seniors and 401ks, and forcing MORE DEBT in the form of substandard student, car and credit card debt.
WHERE’S THE BEEF????????????
where is the middle class relief????

For those of you calling Obama socialist, do you know about McCain`s plan to make government buy all the foreclosed houses with $300b of taxpayers money?
Yes McCain is the real socialist not Obama. McCain also supported the $700 rescue package. Can you McCain supporters now think intelligently?

McCain is STILL proposing a federal spending freeze. Is he a moron? He can’t do that. I live in California where for 70+ days we had no budget, and it was affecting several state programs almost to the point they would’ve needed to shut down operations cause they couldn’t pay rent or payroll, etc.
That meant kids, seniors, people with disabilities, etc would’ve been out on the streets.

geevil: “Obama the socialist does not like us having 401ks”
How could you possibly come up with such nonsense out of this article?

That’s right Mack, stay home. Your vote for McCain will go unnoticed. VOTE NOV 4th. VOTE OBAMA !

The Republicans continue to prove how they are NOT for the working class. Congress is putting together a 150 billion dollar economic stimulus program geared to the people. What do these damn Republicans do? Complain and offer their version of the stimulus plan…NOT ONE ITEM FOR THE WORKING CLASS. All for businesses and corporations, subsidies, tax breaks for those that have money, NOTHING FOR REAL PEOPLE. These damn Republicans don’t give a damn about America’s working class, only the rich and corporations. They just proved it with their version of “economic stimulus”. More “trickly down BS” that never trickles down. They only “care” about you at election time.

this election will be a landslide, not so fast, who does not want a landslide the most?the media.landslide=less viewers=less $$. keep those dollars coming in and call it a close election.obama should be up 10-15 points,who does obama blame if he loses. himself.man that would be a hard day for him.

“tax credit to businesses, treasury backed loans to state and local governments, something about seniors and 401ks, and forcing MORE DEBT in the form of substandard student, car and credit card debt.’
He may as well trash that 3k per new hire proposal. Unless he makes in 30k, those jobs aren’t coming back. He’s just throwing out platitudes.

“How could you possibly come up with such nonsense out of this article? You really don’t seem to care what comes out of your mouth as long as it is an attack.”
Not one thing listed here provided relief to the middle class. not one.
I challenge you to explain differently

“Obama is the way forward for America McCain lacks new and progressive ideas.”
Chicago street thug politics is new and progressive?

Go Tina Fey – let the light of truth shine through you.
The fact that McCain voted with Dubya / Dickya 95% of the time;
the fact that he chose Gov Palin – aka Brittany Spears Mother – as his running mate – her favorite hobby/sport apparently seems to be shooting Bambi and Rudolph from helicopters;
and the fact most recently both McCain and Palin through their ethics and character in the sewer and are inciting 1950s style racism in this great land-
speaks volumes as to why I like many other independents see McCain and Palin as an integral part of the crises at hand – with NO Vision NO Solutions and NO Ethics. NO WAY NEVER in my worst nightmare could I vote for either of these depraved degenerates – its more dejavu all over again – we certainly do not need anymore Dubya / Dickya – I heard they are to be exiled in Paraguay – is that true?.
Obama-Biden are the only hope for this country – I advocate for them with any and all thinking patriotic Americans – they both have vision and solutions and are deecent family people. GO

This is my letter to that wonderful Mr. Harris…
Mr. Harris,
I want to thank you. I WAS a Democrat, even though I am more conservative than most, due to the issue of abortion (note: I could not have one myself but I also do not think I could force someone to carry a child they did not want). I am a life long social worker/rescuer of people and animals, but I believe in teaching people to be self-sufficient. I have fought sexism and racism my whole life, and most of my friends are not white. I am now voting REPUBLICAN and/or Independent and have written my democratic leaders and even downticket candidates to let them know that I cannot support them if they support Sen. Obama.
That being said, this year has been a true nightmare. Notwithstanding the massive voter fraud that has been perpetrated upon the Democrats BY the Democrats, I am saddened by the racism of black americans who are voting for a man who by his own track record will leave them much WORSE than how he finds them AND by the stupidity of whites and others who are voting for him for reasons unknown. Combine the racism and the stupidity with the misogyny regarding Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin and we get a perfect storm scenario showing that we are still right back where we started from–and that has broken my heart.
Something is very very wrong with the Democratic platform this year, and it smacks of evil such as has not been seen since Hitler’s reign. Employing ACORN and appealing to children, driving a wedge in the black community between women and men, driving a wedge in the American community between whites and blacks, driving a wedge between uber elite liberals and mom and pop, all of this from a historical perspective has been done with the result being a race almost eliminated and a World War. As a jew, I find it scary and as an American FIRST I find it devastating.
I have worked tirelessly to expose Sen. Obama, Trinity Church, his ties to Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Pflegger, the Ayers and the Rezko connection, and a thousand other disturbing facts since I first read about this man. I now work with PUMA (People United Means Action/www.blog.pumapac.org) and we hired a film crew to film what has happened and will put out a documentary including the voter fraud (I live in Texas and I can tell you ACORN and Sen. Obama stole the vote here).
It gives me hope to see the main stream media show your interaction with John McCain, and I must admit that I watch it a lot because even though it brings tears to my eyes it gives me hope. Hope that we can save America. GOD BLESS YOU and keep you safe. I have a friend who is a woman, she is black, and she supported Hillary and her life has been constantly in peril (she is a politician) since….BE CAREFUL….and thank you.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER, NOBAMA and NO DEMOCRATS!!

what happens if obama wins and come jan 21 nothing changes?it’s going to be a cold winter.

“Yes McCain is the real socialist not Obama. McCain also supported the $700 rescue package. Can you McCain supporters now think intelligently?”
But does he have an autographed poster of Che Guevera hanging in his campaign office. Si Se Puede!

“Go Tina Fey – let the light of truth shine through you. ”
Poor Tina Fey, if she leaves this planet she won’t be able to rake in the millions a year that she does here on planet earth.

From the October 1996 Update of the Democratic Socialists of America
:
“New Party members are busy knocking on doors, hammering down lawn signs, and phoning voters to support NP candidates this fall. Here are some of our key races…
Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary).”

Remember how Obama dumped Reverend Wright so easily to rescue his political future. He will dump our future for his.
Posted by: young_voter | Oct 13, 2008 4:26:52 PM
Thats what I’m afraid of! America does not need Obama in office! C’mon, Americans, rally against Obama and make sure he LOSES in November!
For the sake of America, don’t let this socialist Obama enter our WhiteHouse!

Ex-DemInVA Hello. Well, my husband and daughter just got back from the McCain-Palin Rally in Virginia Beach, VA. They said that it was HUGE! The room was PACKED! They said people were packed in like sardines. My daughter said that there were a lot of women and college-aged adults in attendance. Of course, a lot of men were there too. The crowd did not like to hear Obama’s name. They cringed every time it was mentioned. They said Cindy, Sarah, and McCain’s speeches were great! McCain said something that I think he was giving a message. He said that the polls have us at 6 pts. down. Obama is already measuring the curtains for the WH. He then said, guess what, we have them just where we want them folks. Limbaugh played this clip also and said that is true. Anything can happen in the next three weeks and that the Dems are too confident.
On a side note, the campaign handed out yard signs and bumper stickers afterwards and everyone was taking them. Guess what, the items were FREE! I say that because Obama came to this area two Saturdays ago, and charged $5.00 for each yard sign!

Frankly, it is ridiculous to assume that either candidate will be able to lower taxes.
Considering the federal budget deficit of $407 billion for 2008 combined with a decrease in tax receipts, cutting taxes is fiscally irresponsible.
Bush’s tax cuts cost the country about $2.1 trillion. The job increases that were supposed to come with the tax cut did not materialize (62% lower than estimates) – mind you, this was back in 2004.
The responsible thing would be to close the corporate tax loopholes, cut a whole lot of spending and close some personal tax loopholes.
However, you have to spend money to make money – a concept a lot of Republicans seem to forget – so we’ll have to take some money and re-invest it in certain sectors to help spawn some new high growth industries. There probably will have to be an investment in infrastructure since that tends to help a good chunk of lower income families.
We’re in for a rough decade.

This is simple…McCain is a very wealthy man, the vast majority of us are not. McCain has 9 homes, we have one. McCain can lose 8 homes and still not be homeless, we lose our 1 home and we are on the street. McCain has 13 cars, we have two at most. McCain has a private jet, we fly on standby or ride the train or bus. McCain has a 53K annual pension and has a 165K salary, both which he currently gets from the government. He’ll qualify for another pension when he leaves the Senate, and if he became President and left after one term, he would get another pension. Think about this, most of us have one or two jobs, and will get one pension and whatever is left of our 101K. He can eventually get 3 government pensions at once, while being wealthy. Isn’t there something wrong with this picture now and with this picture in the future? How does McCain fix his face to even accept a US pension when he’s wealthy? Why not donate it to the country that he claims comes “first”. He’s all about him, wants to collect 2 pensions and a salary as President, like he hasn’t gotten enough charity from government already. Miser.

There were McCain/Palin rallies all over Texas this weekend…each one of them were HUGE!!!! And now, McCain is leading in Ohio and gaining in the swing states. With the voter faud issue endorsed by Obama, this spells trouble for the socialist Obama and will bring him down!

Good. This is alot better than the lame-duck plan McCain came up with. I have a small business and need a business loan badly. I too have been forced at times to take it out of my personal retirement to cover expenses, especially when it first opened.
Having local govt. be able to do small loans is a great idea. I can’t tell you how a little help there would make a big difference to alot of small business owners.
I would also like the 3K tax write off to hire people. Great Plan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very interesting…a tax credit on top of a tax increase.

More and more it’s obvious that The Obama/Biden ticket is the one we need for the future of America. The McCain/Palin campaign focused on character assassination until the polls told them the people didn’t like it. Only Obama/Biden have been focused on the real issues.
Obama/Biden 08

“Mack
You can say all you want about Chicago politics but Obama seems to be more composed, presidential and steady ”
He is an attorney after all. I wouldn’t want McCain representing me in a trial, although at least I know his heart is in the right place and that he loves his country, blemishes and all.

Nothing in that economic plan but Hot Air.
For example:
“…withdraw 15% of their retirement savings from their IRAs and 401(k)s – up to a maximum $10,000 — without facing a penalty.”
There are already plenty of ways to make a withdrawal from your IRA with facing a penalty.

To emulate the style of a famous ABC Senior national Correspondent:
Taking a break from Yard Sign and T-Shirt coverage, Jake Tapper actually posted a candidates statement about the (OMG) economy.

So much dribble, dribble on this blog.
Mr. McCain and Mrs. Palin have nothing. Have you looked at their platform on their website? It is just like Bush’s policies except for “global warming” recognition and an abortion policy right of Bush. Mr. McCain has been in office for 26yrs and never leads. He is a loner and a loose canon. This works for the Senate and he’s great at being that sort of cowboy in the Senate. This isn’t the skills and character of a president. Two different types of jobs and he’s now a man of deep seated habits and not a man to change easily. He isn’t a deep thinker or a fast learner. He isn’t a communicator and a uniter. He is without and vision or inspiration. And in fact, for most of our nation and the world, he is a disappointment if he fills the presidency. That may be the fighting underdog, but really, I would rather have a real visionary leader that brings people together. Just listening to Mr. McCain talk (and worse Mrs. Palin) is really more Bush. God, help us.

“This is simple…McCain is a very wealthy man, the vast majority of us are not. McCain has 9 homes, we have one.”
So are Kerry and the Kennedys.

Republicans hysterical about DEBT ???? Where were you morons when successive Republican regimes since Reagan piled on 10 TRILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT !! How many times does it have to be rereated to get through your thick heads: OBAMA WILL INCREASE TAXES ONLY ON THOSE EARNING MORE THAN $250,000. The top 5% of wage earners that have not been paying their fair share since 1980.

I am writing this letter regarding some recent political news. Barack Obama, who, during the Democratic primaries, scoffed at Senator Clinton’s call for a 90-day moratorium on home foreclosures as part of a plan to address the escalating housing crisis has now announced his proposal for a 90-day moratorium on home foreclosures.
Meanwhile, after promising everything in the candy store to each and every American throughout his campaign all year long, Obama now admits (buried in the news, naturally) that he will have to scale back on health care reform, education, and college assistance. Naturally, his proposals were utterly unrealistic even before this massive financial collapse. But, now more than ever, it seems apparent even to Senator Obama that with a huge budget deficit and a world wide financial and economic disaster a foot, we can’t have all the candy in the store after all.
Of course, it’s all a bit late in the game. He already stole the election from Senator Clinton and has amassed a following of folks who appear unable or unwilling to dare question a single thing about him. At all. Ever.
So what are we left with?
For those Republicans who always intended to support McCain. Bravo!
To those Democrats and undecided voters, I would say that it appears that Bill Clinton had it right when he said (and I paraphrase) you have two candidates: Candidate X and Candidate Y. Candidate X promises everything you want, but can’t deliver on any of it. Candidate Y promises only some of what you want, but can deliver on all of it. Which candidate do you choose?
And, here’s the bonus prize (my words, not Bill Clinton’s): With Candidate Y you don’t have to worry about him having a group of associates that include hang mongers, anti-Semites, convicted felons and former terrorists. And, if that’s not enough, we’ll even throw in the fact (albeit insignificant to some) that Candidate Y has spent his entire life serving his country.
The election is a no brainer no matter what party you are a member of. It’s got to be John McCain in 2008.

This deserves reposting:
Obama leads in states with 255 Electoral College votes while McCain is ahead in states with 163 Electoral College votes. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 300, McCain 174

Duhhh…you already have a socialist in the White House and another one that wants so bad to get there, McCain. Yes, they socialize the economics of this country when they took over companies and banks and gave money to other corporations. Yeah…they got Obama beat on socialism already, now McCain wants to give banks more money with his so called “resurgence plan”. Another gimmick like Palin…won’t work.

If I used Senator Obama’s fuzzy math methods in fourth grade, I would have been flunked and laughed out of school.
One can not lower income taxes on the 40% who pay no income taxes at all.
Obama wants to redistribute the wealth–take from those who worked hard, invested well and give to those who sit on their bottoms, not creating wealth but more babies. My parents and education taught me to work hard, invest well and be self reliant.
One cannot think Obama without thinking SOCIALISM.

McCain supporters should cool down their temper a bit. Its not over but they must admit Obama has proven within the last couple of weeks that he would be a better leader than McCain who is erratic and cannot run his own campaign.

Obama’s socialist comments from the weekend:
“Barack Obama told a tax-burdened plumber over the weekend that his economic philosophy is to “spread the wealth around” — a comment that may only draw fire from riled-up John McCain supporters who have taken to calling Obama a “socialist” at the Republican’s rallies.
Obama made the remark after fielding some tough questions from the plumber Sunday in Ohio, where the Democratic candidate canvassed neighborhoods and encouraged residents to vote early.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked.
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

Since when did being on welfare count as middle-class?
The government is paying people to be out of a job longer… And now will not tax any of those benefits either…oh, btw, the taxpayers with a job will now have to pay for their health care too
We got into this mess because the Democrats decided to regulate and force banks to make sub-prime loans… that is the fact. You will probably hear about it after the election is over. Media would not want to bring up this to harm Obama’s chances.
BTW, where was the call to control the anger and violence when the left was rampaging all over St. Paul? Those were not just words, those were violent deeds.
Want to hear more anger…just go look at all the democratic debates… They just sat there taking angry cheap shots at Bush who isn’t even running
Go ahead and fool yourselves… The country will pay the price. The media will have to pay the price for their sins eventually.. Last I check the people on welfare do not buy newspapers or subscribe to cable.

If they could find a way for us to work for free… we would be.
This movie changed my life.

So my company gets a tax break for creating new jobs, then is taxed for becoming successful if we make over $250K as a company?
On the 90 day freeze so “people can get back on their feet” and pay their mortgage–If there is no money now, there won’t be in 3 months. Yes We Can–pander.

Stella said: “Nothing in that economic plan but Hot Air.
For example:
“…withdraw 15% of their retirement savings from their IRAs and 401(k)s – up to a maximum $10,000 — without facing a penalty.”
There are already plenty of ways to make a withdrawal from your IRA with facing a penalty.”———————-Stella I need to correct you on this. Unless you are buying your 1st home or college, you will get taxed on early withdrawl. People need some leeway there. “Start-up” costs for a new business don’t count.

If Republicans realy want a “maverick” for Prez why didn’t they nominate Bill Ayers ?? Now that guy is a REAL maverick who actually changed the whole country. I bet the “maverick war hero tough guy” McCain wouldn’t have the GUTS to make a bomb!!

If McCain spent half as much time actually living “country first” and coming up with ideas how to get this country back out of the ditch as he does on how to reboot his sorry disaster of a campaign (here’s a timesaver tip: hit Ctrl Alt Del) we might even have a substantive discussion about ideas.
As it stands, he’s hopeless, clueless, mindless, and reckless on any of the issues that the vast majority of Americans has to deal with on a daily basis. But that’s ok, even if he is an confused, angry old man.
For we are here to praise him, not to bury him (Sarah will be do that, you betcha!).

HP Boston: I totally missed that point too. Forgot that if you turn 70, you now get penalized for holding that money in your 401K, forcing you to withdrawl. I think that sucks too. Why be punished for being responsible?

“Obama – who regularly preaches tough love to audiences– said that people need to take responsibility for their own financial situation; that the crisis on Wall Street and Main Street has contributed to their woes – but now is the time for fiscal responsibility in their own lives.”
You’re kdding right?
Who wrote this- Axelrod or Gibbs?
Fiscal responsibility for their own lives while giving tax credits to those who pay no taxes?
What’s responsible about that?
What’s responsible about making the rest of the country pay for the bad judgment of those who should not have had those loans?
Why aren’t we demanding some of those gigantic bonuses back from Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines and the rest of the gang?

An economic rescue plan that includes: Tax breaks for employers who create new jobs for Americans, the ability to tap into reitirement savings without a tax penalty this year or next, a 90-day foreclosure moratorium, and a Federal backing for state and municipal governments. I can’t wait to have elected officials who will begin cleaning up the mess created by 8-years of failed Bush policies. Obama/Biden ’08!

DANG…Proof again that ABC NEWS (Liberal Media) will only report what they want you to hear. Go to FOXNEWS and read their Headlines – learn what Obama REALLY said in his pitch for a middle class resuce plan…Obama to Plumber: My Plan Will ‘Spread the Wealth Around’.
I am a middle class family and I will take what I make. I don’t expect the rich or the wealthy or the to pay for my way through life. If you like socialism …then your going to love Obama!

Did you hear Obama today say that he wants to take our wealth and “spread it around”?
Karl Marx said the same thing.

Obama is a Socialist — plain and simple. His high taxes and excessive spending won’t make a minimum wage earner middle class no matter how many entitlements he gives them. It will just hurt businesses and hard working taxpayers. His plan on giving blanket amnesty to 30 million uneducated illegals isn’t going to help either, considering he’s campaigning to them promising them Universal Health care and bailouts on their homes and more welfare too.
And the biggest racists I hear out there are Democrats screaming about dirty Republicans. Joe Biden calls Obama “clean” and he gets a pass. Obama brings up his ‘color’ all the time, but Condie Rice and Colin Powell are “Uncle Toms” and “Bush Puppets”. Yet, day after day, the Obama camp throws out “racism” calls against anyone that doesn’t like his policies! He makes me sick, and I stupdily voted for him in the primary.
Bill Clinton was right: Obama plays and planned on playing the race card from day one.
I’m and Independent, but the way the media is so in bed with Obama, at any cost, including hiding the truth about Omaba, Franklin Raines, Ayers, Rezko and more, makes me sick. And because Tina Fey is such a manipulative jerk, I’m voting for Sarah! Obama is dangerous.

Hold the phone on those middle class tax breaks!
In today’s Wall Street Journal: Obama’s 95% Illusion. Key excerpts:
“The Tax Foundation estimates that under the Obama plan 63 million Americans, or 44% of all tax filers, would have no income tax liability and most of those would get a check from the IRS each year. The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis estimates that by 2011, under the Obama plan, an additional 10 million filers would pay zero taxes while cashing checks from the IRS.
The total annual expenditures on refundable “tax credits” would rise over the next 10 years by $647 billion to $1.054 trillion, according to the Tax Policy Center. This means that the tax-credit welfare state would soon cost four times actual cash welfare. By redefining such income payments as “tax credits,” the Obama campaign also redefines them away as a tax share of GDP. Presto, the federal tax burden looks much smaller than it really is.”
How many of you Obama supporters realized under the Obama plan millions of tax filers will be paying no taxes, and then sitting back and getting a check from the IRS? How many of you realized the IRS will be sending your tax dollars to someone else under Obama’s plan? Let’s see those hands! C’mon, raise ‘em up! What? Nobody?
This is why many people, including myself, feel Obama is a socialist at heart. He’s abusing the IRS and tax system to send people welfare checks. You can put lipstick on something called redistibution of wealth, it’s still redistributin of wealth.

McCain would have laid out his plan today too, EXCEPT, he is still with his trainers learning how to spell ‘e c o n o m i c s’…..and Palin sure can’t help him with it. You just have to love her version of her state having a ‘surplus’. If every state got partial funding of a bridge to nowhere that they just stuck in the state treasury, not building the bridge, they would have a surplus too.

Hold the phone on those middle class tax breaks!
In today’s Wall Street Journal: Obama’s 95% Illusion. Key excerpts:
“The Tax Foundation estimates that under the Obama plan 63 million Americans, or 44% of all tax filers, would have no income tax liability and most of those would get a check from the IRS each year. The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis estimates that by 2011, under the Obama plan, an additional 10 million filers would pay zero taxes while cashing checks from the IRS.
The total annual expenditures on refundable “tax credits” would rise over the next 10 years by $647 billion to $1.054 trillion, according to the Tax Policy Center. This means that the tax-credit welfare state would soon cost four times actual cash welfare. By redefining such income payments as “tax credits,” the Obama campaign also redefines them away as a tax share of GDP. Presto, the federal tax burden looks much smaller than it really is.”
How many of you Obama supporters realized under the Obama plan millions of tax filers will be paying no taxes, and then sitting back and getting a check from the IRS? How many of you realized the IRS will be sending your tax dollars to someone else under Obama’s plan? Let’s see those hands! C’mon, raise ‘em up! What? Nobody?
This is why many people, including myself, feel Obama is a socialist at heart. He’s abusing the IRS and tax system to send people welfare checks. You can put lipstick on something called redistibution of wealth, it’s still redistributin of wealth.
Posted by: Woody | Oct 13, 2008 4:57:31 PM
Obama the idiot strikes again!

Oh,yeah, Biden and Obama, two socialists sitting in a tree, counting the money comming in to thee. They tell the American people what they want to hear and they believe it. Do the American people NOT realize that taxing those companies destroys jobs? If you overtax a company, that company will fold and no jobs will be made! Do YOU get it Obama? Do you really? I guess he wants to add from the 16,000 page tax code that we already have. If you already brace yourself on April 15th, it’s going to get worse next year if Obama is President!

Independent watch groups show that McCain’s plan will cost 20 million people job provided health care benefits. Small businesses can’t be taxed for providing benefits. McCain’s plan is horrible!
Obama is the only one really addressing small business owners. Most of us don’t make over $250K/yr, after expenses, so I think Obama’s plan is the best one for our country.
Go Obama

If the GOP is to be praised for anything it would be the number of poor idiots they manage to dube into voting for them.It begger belief after a nationalization program of $700 Biloins to blame any one for socilaism!The only socialist in the history of USA are the repugnican.They should SHUT up and see how the Clinton Economics team under Obama will balance the budget.JUST SHUT and WATCH.

Something went wrong with post below, I’m sorry for that, so let’s try it again (I’m not used to blogging…).
Now that we learned that the great American economist Paul Krugman will receive this year’s Nobel Prize for Economy, why not have a look at how Krugman stands on the presidential candidates and their plans for our economy. Might be interesting, and relevant.
Here’s what our Nobel laureate wrote last month in the NYT:
“Barack Obama seems well informed and sensible about matters economic and financial. John McCain, on the other hand, scares me.”
McCain scares one of the world’s greatest economists!? Why?
Krugman:
“Then there’s the frightening Mr. McCain — more frightening now than he was a few weeks ago.
We’ve known for a long time, of course, that Mr. McCain doesn’t know much about economics — he’s said so himself, although he’s also denied having said it. That wouldn’t matter too much if he had good taste in advisers — but he doesn’t.
Remember, his chief mentor on economics is Phil Gramm, the arch-deregulator, who took special care in his Senate days to prevent oversight of financial derivatives — the very instruments that sank Lehman and A.I.G., and brought the credit markets to the edge of collapse. Mr. Gramm hasn’t had an official role in the McCain campaign since he pronounced America a “nation of whiners,” but he’s still considered a likely choice as Treasury secretary.
And last year, when the McCain campaign announced that the candidate had assembled “an impressive collection of economists, professors, and prominent conservative policy leaders” to advise him on economic policy, who was prominently featured? Kevin Hassett, the co-author of “Dow 36,000.” Enough said.
Now, to a large extent the poor quality of Mr. McCain’s advisers reflects the tattered intellectual state of his party. Has there ever been a more pathetic economic proposal than the suggestion of House Republicans that we try to solve the financial crisis by eliminating capital gains taxes? (Troubled financial institutions, by definition, don’t have capital gains to tax.)
But even President Bush has, in the twilight of his administration, turned to relatively sensible people to make economic decisions: I’m not a fan of Mr. Paulson, but he’s a vast improvement over his predecessor. At this point, one has the suspicion that a McCain administration would have us longing for Bush-era competence.
The real revelation of the last few weeks, however, has been just how erratic Mr. McCain’s views on economics are. At any given moment, he seems to have very strong opinions — but a few days later, he goes off in a completely different direction.
Thus on Sept. 15 he declared — for at least the 18th time this year — that “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.” This was the day after Lehman failed and Merrill Lynch was taken over, and the financial crisis entered a new, even more dangerous stage.
But three days later he declared that America’s financial markets have become a “casino,” and said that he’d fire the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission — which, by the way, isn’t in the president’s power.
And then he found a new set of villains — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored lenders. (Despite some real scandals at Fannie and Freddie, they played little role in causing the crisis: most of the really bad lending came from private loan originators.) And he moralistically accused other politicians, including Mr. Obama, of being under Fannie’s and Freddie’s financial influence; it turns out that a firm owned by his own campaign manager was being paid by Freddie until just last month.
Then Mr. Paulson released his plan, and Mr. McCain weighed vehemently into the debate. But he admitted, several days after the Paulson plan was released, that he hadn’t actually read the plan, which was only three pages long.
O.K., I think you get the picture.
The modern economy, it turns out, is a dangerous place — and it’s not the kind of danger you can deal with by talking tough and denouncing evildoers. Does Mr. McCain have the judgment and temperament to deal with that part of the job he seeks? “

Why is it that $250,000 is the magic number that makes one evil? Why is it that people making $250,000+ are to be punished?

justrighttoo…
you are so right… we should not tax corporations or rich people. If you tax big businesses or millionaires, they will ruin your economy faster than a 747 full of saudis.
We should tax the middle class, because they cannot easily relocate to other countries. They are a captive and reliable group that can be harvested with relative ease.
The secret is to cut taxes now, then run up the budget, so that as the economy tanks, future presidents will be forced to raise taxes. People will be so broke, that they will have no other choice than to bow down to the IMF’s mandates.
I love Republicans. They are so practical.

justrighttoo and southern conservative:
Don’t you guys realize tht McCain’s record is almost identical to Bush’s?
That scares me. I don’t need that again. A vote for Obama is a vote against Bush.
Why is it that you guys have no problem sending $10billion/month (a trillion so far)to Iraq, but take issue that the money will be used HERE instead of THERE?
Taking care of the millions of uninsured and giving incentives to employ people is not socialim

Since when is Toledo a state, Jake?

How about Obama using ACORN and it’s up
front voter fruad. Well it worked for Kennedy in 60 with Dailey in Chicago.
Change you can believe in – The only change you will have is pocket change,
because you will be looking at it.

I hear some people in this blog calling Obama a Socialist. Can I ask, what’s wrong with the idea of Socialism to an extent? Seriously, ask yourself this question, what is the purpose of government? Basically, what do you think your Tax Dollars should be spent on? Some of the basic principles of Socialism are pretty logical….Government supporting it’s people by providing health care; government supporting it’s people by providing financial aid. If we were truly a capitalistic society, shouldn’t Wall Street have already failed? I mean, why should Wall Street be allowed to act independent, make up their own rules, then when their ideas fail, be able to come to the Government for rescue? Isn’t that an double-edged sword? Look, I think there are things that should be basic “rights” as a US Citizen. One of them is my government providing “basic” services, health care, insurance, etc. The idea of making a Man or Woman’s life a commodity is sick. For those of you in the audience on the religious side, point out the section in the Bible that says “Only the Wealthy survive because they can afford the insurance or operation to save their life.” Our country, our times have fallen off the deep end. Kind of how it was over 225 years ago when our leaders declared their independence and began the formation of this country. It took “radical” thinking then, and based on the times we’re in today, it’s going to take SOME “radical” thinking now. I don’t care what candidate you vote for, just vote your conscience. Don’t listen to any of the rhetoric you read in this blog about one side is evil, and the other is a basher. Listen to what EVERY candidate is saying, and cast a vote. And for those of you trying to persuade people to vote for your party’s candidate by striking fear into the minds of undecided voters, get over yourself.
DON’T GET CAUGHT UP IN PARTY POLITICS. LISTEN TO THE ISSUES, THE CANDIDATES RESPONSE TO THE ISSUES, AND MAKE A CHOICE. IN TODAY’S SOCIETY, THE IDEA OF RIGHT, LEFT AND INDIFFERENT NO LONGER APPLY. OLD WORLD POLITICS HAVE NO PLACE IN THE UNITED STATES 2008. THOSE METHODS DIED LONG AGO.

Who’s the liberal?
Tuesday night, McCain, seeking traction in inhospitable economic terrain, said that the $700 billion — perhaps it is $800 billion, or more; one loses track of this fast-moving target — bailout plan is too small. He proposes several hundred billions more for his American Homeownership Resurgence — you cannot have too many surges — Plan. Under it, the government would buy mortgages that homeowners cannot — or perhaps would just rather not — pay, and replace them with cheaper ones. When he proposed this, conservatives participating in MSNBC’s “dial group” wrenched their dials in a wrist-spraining spasm of disapproval.
Still, it may be politically prudent for McCain to throw caution, and billions, to the wind. Obama is competitive in so many states that President Bush carried in 2004 — including Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, Colorado and New Mexico — it is not eccentric to think he could win at least 350 of the 538 electoral votes.

Neither McCain nor Palin are qualified to deal with the current situation, nor have they done any attempts to surround themselves with people that might be. Paul Volcker (Reagan’s Federal Reserve Chariman) is behind Obama. Chosing McCain/Palin would be collective suicide.

He’s going to credit the businesses for jobs then tax them – because we’ve got to “spread the wealth”? Sharp man. NOT!!

It is safe for conservatives to cry about “Big Government” because they have already prospered enough from government largesse that they can afford to be greedy without much consequence.
It’s like a chihuahua yapping at you from the other side of a fence. As if they are saying, I would rip you to shreds if it weren’t for this big fence.
They yap at you, cuz they have the fence to protect them.
But if you took away the fence, they would run back to the porch.
Conservatives are the same way. They love to bark across the fence of big government, because, well, they are safe behind that fence.

I found this article from another paper! its well articulated!! I wonder what life would be like today if McCain were president during the Iranian (oops…Cuban) missile crisis, with all the hawks screaming “Invade now!”, unaware of the island’s tactical nukes. Thankfully, a cool JFK was instead on watch. I do not fault McCain for voting to attack Iraq. Attack is what hawks do. Avoiding war in the first place is a (competent) president’s job, and something that Obama would have done. I do not fault Obama for voting against the surge. He is not a military man, and would be no more good at advising the nuts and bolts of conflict than a hawk like McCain could in avoiding such conflict in the first place. I expect the executive to keep us out, like Obama would have, not run the ground war.
McCain said in the debates that he would fight in Iraq for the honor of the service persons who have died there, so their deaths are not in vain. He is wrong. There is no way to die in vain in service to America. Military action sends a clear message to anyone wanting to steal America’s freedom to think again, regardless of the overall military success of the conflict.
McCain’s doctrine of no deaths un-avenged is nonsense, otherwise we would reinvade the Korean peninsula and reengage in Indochina. This doctrine of his is a recipe for future, more protracted wars. McCain also believes only the top 5% can create jobs, and tax cuts to these people will take care of the apparently unwashed 95% of Americans. This is a failed notion. Those 5% at one time were among the 95%. A break for the middle class would engage a huge number of Americans, innovative, creative Americans, not to mention increase consumer spending. McCain also wants to put us on a collision course with Russia by rushing former satellites into NATO. This is reckless; all things have their moment and now is not the moment to be pushing the Russians further. Our own Secretary of State mentioned this last month, saying we have been ignorant of Russia’s perspective. Hawks, by their nature, always think the time is NOW, just like McCain running off to Washington instead of the debates. John McCain’s impulsive manor was on full display during the last debate, with the simpleton cure to spending by just freezing and vetoing everything. This is again his narrow-minded focus, devoid of the bigger picture. Obama, on the other hand, wants measured cuts based upon our morals and needs. A McCain weight loss program would be a feeding freeze; an Obama plan a healthy diet and exercise. McCain believes we are not fostering a second cold war through our incompetent foreign policy. But then again, this is a man that didn’t even see the train wreck of the economy burning in front of him. Hawks like McCain, seeing only the target immediately in front of them, see only the small picture, usually in cross hairs. That’s what makes a great military man, and we need such magnificent individuals to carry out the will of the executive. But we do not need such individual as the executive.

southern_conservative – how much do you make? All Obama is doing is taking away the wrongful tax break given to the rich to begin with by Bush. It is not a new tax it’s removing the tax cut that dramatically grew our national debt. Funny how all you Republicans are all up for the war in Iraq but none of you want to pay for all the bullets and bombs.

More of Bush’s World Class JOB CUTS !!!
” GM decides (today) to cut 1,340 jobs by closing Michigan plant “

Atlanta Dem: You are a disgrace to mock and disrespect John McCain’s military record. Why am I not surprised your a democrat?

It’s a shame that Biden voted for the new bankruptcy laws which protects credit card companies since he is from Delaware which has numerour credit card companies. Palin runs her state like Al-Capone. Obama knows some anti-American friends. And McCain doesn’t know how many homes he own. Wow! What choices do we Americans have? But if I had to choose between the 2 evils, this is not a time to have someone in the White-house who doesn’t know how many homes he has or a thug-like vendictive liar. I guess that leaves the choice of a leader who promises to change the bankruptcy laws and has separated himself from people even those he had known a long time for the best interest of America. This is what is best, to do what is best for America. But McCain still chooses to associate himself with his counter-part Bush. With the educational system going down the tubes, maybe America will be better off getting the Queen to appoint someone to the position.

The democrats like to blame the republicans for war. Don’t forget Democrats and VIETNAM. Alot more lives lost.

PALN IS A CHRISTIAN FASCIST !!!
WHO BELIEVES THAT THE EARTH IS 6000 YEARS OLD!!
WHO BELIEVES THAT DINOSAURS COEXISTED WITH HUMANS !!!
WHO BELIEVES IN A LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE !!
WHO DENIES GLOBAL WARMING !!!
WHO BELIEVES IN THE SUCESSION OF ALASKA FROM THE UNION (FORMER MEMBER OF THE AIP) !!!

Annette: I am middle class & have always worked hard. At times I have had two & three jobs. I am paying for a home – one that I can afford! The “wealthy” in this country do a lot of good with their money by contributing to charity, etc. They also employ and pay salaries. We have the 2nd largest corporate tax rate in the world. When more companies start moving out of this country or we can’t get new business into this country – don’t blame me I’m voting for McCain!

Socialism is a failed theory, but it keeps rearing up its ugly head, since its the only hope for the poor and the idiots who have maxed out their life on credit cards and things they should not have gotten in the first place, are financially screwed and live from check to check. Messiah Obama promises to make the “rich” pay, and redistribute the wealth. I suggest he takes his theories to France, North Korea, Venezuela or some other socialist and/or communist hellhole and practice them there.

Obama is back-peddling because he’s alienated so many people with his over $250,000 rantings & making them the evil of society.

No on McCain: Your comments are very insightful. I especially liked the one about foreign policy. Keep up the good work and get the word out!

Something that no one on these posts is realizing is the real greatness of the Democratic party and its leader, Barack Obama.
Many have noted that his ideas now mimic ideas put forth by any number of his previous adversaries in the Primaries.
That is the beauty of the thing. The man can ORGANIZE! HE can WIN OVER! He can COMBINE! He can INSPIRE! He is not stupid, greedy for HIMSELF ONLY!
HE gives credit where credit is DUE> Don’t you believe that his Health Care and Housing plans have had SIGNIFICANT input from Hillary and Bill Clinton? The DEMOCRATIC PARTY is putting ALL GOOD ideas together for the GOOD OF THE NATION- not for self aggrandizement.
McCain knows where to find Osama Bin Laden, yet he has kept this information to himself – no doubt wanting to be President before he rides in on a white stallion and GETS HIM!
Hillary, Joe, Bill Clinton, Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd – all of his former rivals are now ensuring that he has ALL THE IDEAS on the table.
This is what makes him the next PRESIDENT! His ability to see the OTHER SIDE of any issue, and to work TOGETHER to ensure that AMERICANS win ALL ROUND.

I am middle class & have always worked hard. At times I have had two & three jobs. I am paying for a home – one that I can afford! The “wealthy” in this country do a lot of good with their money by contributing to charity, etc. They also employ and pay salaries. We have the 2nd largest corporate tax rate in the world. When more companies start moving out of this country or we can’t get new business into this country – don’t blame me I’m voting for McCain!
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Please don’t come crying for a handout when you are responsible for the situation you helped to create. You deserve every last ounce of the last 8 years that you have gotten.

No, the reason companies are moving oversees is CHEAP LABOR. Educated cheap labor often times in the technology sector. Why hire a car mechanic when you can hire a Phd engineer in India? Our schools suck, we have no healthcare and we are spending billions per month on a war financed by China.

Excellent plan. Best thing we’ve heard in a long time. This is the farthest thing we have ever heard from the Bush administration who has turned everything it has touched into crap. They don’t have a care in the world about anything other than the fulfillment they have achieved a long time ago. Honestly, Ron Paul would be the best choice for our leadership to get us in the right direction. Obama/Biden will not be as effective but still a better choice than the GOP ticket for the wealthy elite. To have them win this election would literally mean genocide. Get out and vote for America’s future, countrymen and women.

Here’s McCAIN’s response to the economy – “THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE ECONOMY ARE STRONG”

Sen. Obama is promising all things to all people. How is this the greatest economic plan. Who is paying for it? The democrats have the majority in Congress, yet the President is being blamed for the economic crisis we are in today. The Republicans did not tell you to buy that house you couldn’t afford, didn’t tell you to buy every electronic gadget for your kid, didn’t tell you to max out your credit cards to buy whatever for “instant gratification”. “We” got ourselves into this mess. “We” need to exist without so much “stuff” to get out of this mess. Learn to live with less; I do. Hillary Clinton supporter-now voting for John McCain.

It’s a shame that Biden voted for the new bankruptcy laws which protects credit card companies since he is from Delaware which has numerour credit card companies. Palin runs her state like Al-Capone. Obama knows some anti-American friends. And McCain doesn’t know how many homes he own. Wow! What choices do we Americans have? But if I had to choose between the 2 evils, this is not a time to have someone in the White-house who doesn’t know how many homes he has or a thug-like vendictive liar. I guess that leaves the choice of a leader who promises to change the bankruptcy laws and has separated himself from people even those he had known a long time for the best interest of America. This is what is best, to do what is best for America. But McCain still chooses to associate himself with his counter-part Bush. With the educational system going down the tubes, maybe America will be better off getting the Queen to appoint someone to the position.
It’s a shame that Biden voted for the new bankruptcy laws which protects credit card companies since he is from Delaware which has numerour credit card companies. Palin runs her state like Al-Capone. Obama knows some anti-American friends. And McCain doesn’t know how many homes he own. Wow! What choices do we Americans have? But if I had to choose between the 2 evils, this is not a time to have someone in the White-house who doesn’t know how many homes he has or a thug-like vendictive liar. I guess that leaves the choice of a leader who promises to change the bankruptcy laws and has separated himself from people even those he had known a long time for the best interest of America. This is what is best, to do what is best for AmeIt’s a shame that Biden voted for the new bankruptcy laws which protects credit card companies since he is from Delaware which has numerour credit card companies. Palin runs her state like Al-Capone. Obama knows some anti-American friends. And McCain doesn’t know how many homes he own. Wow! What choices do we Americans have? But if I had to choose between the 2 evils, this is not a time to have someone in the White-house who doesn’t know how many homes he has or a thug-like vendictive liar. I guess that leaves the choice of a leader who promises to change the bankruptcy laws and has separated himself from people even those he had known a long time for the best interest of America. This is what is best, to do what is best for America. But McCain still chooses to associate himself with his counter-part Bush. With the educational system going down the tubes, maybe America will be better off getting the Queen to appoint someone to the position.rica. But McCain still chooses to associate himself with his counter-part Bush. With the educational system going down the tubes, maybe America will be better off getting the Queen to appoint someone to the position.

My Gosh Obama looks meaner and meaner and has changed his mind once again and thinks the majority of Americans are STUPID… Many are but Most will rise up and say we cant elect this dude at this time ..think we are in financial crisis now.. Under Obamanation it will get worse and i sorta think he doesnt care.. With friends such as he has..

Obama’s plan actually sounds like he sat down and thought about some reasonable ideas for the short term.
Where do people get off calling Obama a socialist, isn’t Bush currently a socialist? He is buying into our banking system that smacks of near communism. Also, isn’t McCain calling to buy up bad mortgages with our money is that not socialism?
Also, what’s wrong with tax and spend, it sounds a whole lot better than borrow and spend, or just spend and create deficit. Are we seriously just going to stop spending? We need money the money comes from taxes or do you want to keep borrowing from China have your children not have a country.
Lastly, since we all hate paying taxes and everyone knows trickle down economics DO NOT WORK, then let’s get a national sales tax and tax corporations at flat percentage, no loopholes, no tax breaks, no tax havens, and we’d greatly reduce the size of the gov’t because we would be rid of the IRS. But until then it’s taxes and to spend you have to tax, get over it.

Here’s McCAIN’s response to the economy – “WHEN I NEED ADVISE ON ECONOMICS I TURN TO MY GOOD FRIEND PHIL GRAHAM”
Here’s PHIL GRAHAM’s response to the economy – “AMERICANS ARE A BUNCH OF WHINNERS”

Socialism cannot be evil. It is an ideology. Ideas are nither good nor evil, they are just peoples thoughts. PEOPLE do EVIL things. And the most evil people are those that believe they can do no wrong, the ones that “speak to GOD”.

More BS!

Please stick to the facts when posting!
Don’t you get it? The lies and smears against OBAMA haven’t worked for McCain/Palin!!!!
We are not afraid like you are. We don’t fall for Rovian tactics!

I will be voting my conscious. I’ll be voting for the strength of the American people, not to strengthen the American government. Thank you Vote Your Conscious for a thoughtful look into the liberal mindset. I respectfully disagree with your view of government as great provider, but I do have a better understanding of the deep co-dependency inherent to liberal thinking. There’s just all these people too ignorant to care for themselves, to rise above their pitiable circumstance, therefore, government (the liberal oligarchy) must step in and spread wealth so that all, but the above mentioned few, live the same rationed lives. No thank you. I decline.

If there is someone that is self employed that sees somthing different here let me know?
Now let me get this straight. Obama is going to give me a tax credit of three thousand dollars after he raises my taxes by 10 to 15 percent? Somthing is not adding up here. I guess if i am having a great year and i am hiring enough employees it might make some sense but if i am having a bad year and not hiring anyone and not qualifing for a tax credit I will still be screwed. I will have to consult with my CPA but I think i already know the anwser to this one–It Stinks.

We don’t need rescue, we need recovery.
The government needs to get out of the promise business. Your a failure at it.

I realize facts have little value in an ideological argument but:
1. Raising taxes on businesses is an integral part of Obama’s plan
2. Taxes are a cost of doing business
3. When a business’s taxes go up, their cost of doing business goes up
4. When the cost of doing business goes up, the price of what they sell goes up
5. Conclusion: When business taxes are increased, the prices of the things we buy will go up.
There are other negative effects of increasing taxes on businesses. When costs go up, business looks for ways to reduce that cost in other areas; less capital investment, less job creation, increased job elimination, to name a few.
So before jumping on the “tax business and give the money to the rest of us” bandwagon, be sure you know what you’re asking for.

Obama’s vote buying is working great. Take from the rich and middle class and give to the Democrats.
You people that are voting for him should be ashamed at yourselves. You’re essentially jealous of your fellow citizens for their success and are voting someone in to take their money and give it to you.

Do most American’s realize that we the people are in fact the government?
Do they realize that our American jobs have been sent overseas?
While a few rich CEO’s enjoy that kind of thinking lining their pockets full of gold; who do you think suffers over it? That’s right; we do, we have no job!!!

MizFW
You really have no idea what Obama’s tax proposals are, do you?

Prices WILL NOT GO UP if taxes are increased. Price is determined by supply and demand IDIOT ! Increased taxes on business WILL squeeze profit margins, so that inefficient companies will go under. That’s CAPITALISM !!

billy bob—–no thanks. By giving taxbreaks to companies that go overseas he does not help me keep my job! My son is 16. If you think that I will allow him to go to this dumb war and maybe die for these ********- wrong. This war will never be won, get used to it. So, if I can get some money now and not have my house foreclosed, i do appreciate it. McCain’s character? He showed his true character by having a fellow senator, a fellow American dragged thru the sewer while the audience called for Obama’s head and he did nothing for a week. Don’t talk about character.

keep blocking my post ABC, we know that you are fully in the tank.

Here we go again, they might say!
But like Obama knows; walk in another man’s shoes and you will begin to relize how it feels!
It’s not just #’s they’re playing with, it/THE PEOPLE; are the ones we call Americans out of WORK!!!

No, we the people got out of the government business long ago.

How about a cap on interest rates on credit cards? Helps main street and the banks already got their help.

People just admit it. You’re jealous.
You are jealous that there are people out there that did more then their life then you did and you want them to PAY for it. That’s what Obama is doing. He’s taking money from those of us that are successful and giving it to those of you who are UNsuccessful.
At least be truthful with yourselves when you cast that ballot.

McCAIN loses the “experience” argument as soon as he selected Palin to be a heartbeat away from Commander In Chief. He loses the judgment argument when he selected her over many more qualified women in the GOP ranks. Conservatives are calling for Palin to drop out.

For any one who can read here are the most important of Obama’s proposal’s:
Give 95% of Americans a tax REDUCTION. Increase taxes on those earning over $250,000. Yes, some of those people are businesses. SO WHAT ! Why should they be exempt? Americans seem to forget that the highest marginal tax rate was 91% for decades, before Kennedy lowered it to 70%.
The post war boom was largely due to the government spending taz revenues on infrastructure: schools, hospitals, roads. This is what made America GREAT.
Since Reagan Ameriacans have enjoyed one of the lowest tax regimes in the Western World, Not coincidently that’s when American began to fall behind “Socialist” countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Britain, France, etc, etc. Now America is BANKRUPT. Gosh, I wonder why?

Sure, McCain will keep us employed… at where, McDonald’s? Look at all the good paying tech jobs that have been offshored during the Bush Administration. The top execs pay themselves huge bonuses, while we’re just trying to hang on. Why would you think things would change with another Republican in the White House? Don’t you think we need a change?

We should start at the top. NO GOP President. McCAIN picks PALIN to be a heartbeat away from the presidency and says “when I have a question on the economy I go to my good friend Phil Graham.
Read this:
As the author of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, Phil Gramm covertly slipped in a provision into this act that opened the door to unregulated markets for credit default swaps, and in doing so, he deserves to be singled out for blame in creating the opacity and malfunctioning of credit markets that threats the real economy.

Dem or Rep, they’re all the same. Just keep buying the lies..

Here’s what no one will tell you. Increasing business taxes increases reinvestment. If there is little or no tax on profit, the business owner cuts expenses as much as possible and sticks the money in his pocket. If the tax is significant the business owner looks for ways to use the money that avoids taxation. The best way to use that money is to invest it back into the business. This stimulates the economy.

Here is how McCAIN handled his first major decision, the choice of the VP. First he chose Senator Leibermann (trial balloon) to be his running mate, but Limbaugh and other conservatives lambasted him. Then he chose Tom Ridge (trial balloon), but because of his views on abortion, this trial balloon also popped. So, he picks a 21 month Governor of the third least populous state, after meeting her just one time.
If McCAIN had picked Romney he would be carrying Michigan right now, but instead he is pulling out. He showed about as much judgment on picking a running mate as he has on the economy, none, nada, zilch.
This is what PALIN had to say “As for that VP talk all the time, I”ll tell you, I still can”t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?” Sarah Palin, interview with CNBC”s “Kudlow & Co”, July 2008
McCAIN can answer what the VP job is. According to McCAIN “the job of the Vice President is to inquire on the health of the President and attend the funerals of third world dictators”.
And of course we know all about Phil Graham “Americans are a bunch of whiners”. You got that right Dr. Phil, after a $700 Billion (estimated to grow to $1 Trillion) we are a bunch of whiners. See, we don’t have 11 houses and 14 cars.

It is a brilliant idea about the IRA no penalty withdrawals; in times of DJ declines it is painful to watch your eggs basket disappear – being unable to do anything about it. The policy should be a little different though: withdraw all (not just 15%) and hold up to a year in cash or moneymarket – and return back to IRA of the same kind within a year time…

Even the plumber doesn’t believe in obamas tax plan when obama was going door to door.

For those of you who like to talk about associations:
How about republican associations:
Iran Contra, Photo ops with Saddam Hussein (Don Rumsfeld), Entire Bin Laden Family, Keating 5, ENRON, Should I stop now, the pain killing you yet?

Let me state first I don’t have a horse in this race but I have a question for Americans. Do you believe in subsidized health care? Subsidized housing? Subsidized food costs? Sounds like socialism so most of you probably don’t. Then why, if many of you have forgotten, have you always provided these things to nations and people that do not live in the United States? You’re nation has been the greatest source of good throughout its brief history, yet, you find it difficult to look after each other. You behave as if there is a crime involved in being born into poverty, or, failing to achieve goals in life. The crime is forgetting that we are all our brothers keepers and I know that will cause a firestorm just making that statement. Who among us would walk away from someone in trouble in an emergency? Few of you would. That is what makes you an American. That is what makes you great! So remember, whoever you elect, to help each other climb up and obtain the dignity in life all deserve. Remember, “America is not great because she is more enlightened than other nations. She is great because of her peoples ability to correct her errors”. God Bless.

Michael: Nobody has a problem with people EARNING money. I earn considerably less than $250,000 a year and I’m not jealous of anyone EARNING more. A lot of people got very rich in this country very easily in recent times. No real work involved. And the “Rich getting Richer” syndrome has got to stop – it is breaking the middle class – and that’s the BACKBONE of the country. Get off your high horse and get your snout out of the trough. In case you didn’t notice, that just stopped being fashionable. Sorry to spoil your party, but it’s reality check and country fixing time.

G. GORDON LIDDY & MCCAIN, JOHN, SEN, AZ
WHAT THAT’S ABOUT?

I hope he extends unemployment benefits another year. That way I can take a 2 year vacation when I get laid off ! LOL !

Question for ABC…If part of this “rescue plan” follows Mc Cain’s lead, why didn’t you credit him in the headlines? Does Obama have the best ideas or are his just the one getting the attention? After the next four years of Obama, the only rescue plan that the middle class will need is from the terrorists and an ever-growing welfare state!

“I hope he extends unemployment benefits another year. That way I can take a 2 year vacation when I get laid off ! LOL !”
And after that you can collect welfare, foodstamps and get free medical care.

Obama lays out new plan and Wall Street knows Obama will win. Investors pick up confidence and the stock market jumps 900 points.
Most independent economists favor Obama’s plan. Even Ronald Regan’s Treasury Secretary is supporting Obama.
Oh, and Florida jhust moved into the Obama column probably helped as well. It’s Obama/Biden 304;
McCain/Palin 158 and Toss Up 76. With each of the toss ups moving towards Obama it is likely to be 380 to 158 when it’s all over. The market dislikes uncertainty. As more people drift to Obama the better the markets will react.

Obama has to first become an American, as he is a citizen of Indonesia and/or Kenya. Obama born in Kenya, then became a citizen of Indonesia. As proof, his passport in 1981 was from Indonesia, when he traveled to Pakistan, which was forbidden by the U S government, at the time.
Obama, answer the active lawsuit against you and the DNC for fraud against the USA, in the federal court of Phildelphia.
*** CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083 ***
Why wont Obama produce his:
1. “vault” version (certified copy of his “original” long version)
Birth Certificate
2. A certified copy of Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Oath of Allegiance.
No documents, No vote on the 4th.

Here’s the supposed McCain plan:—CBSNews:
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“Sen. Lindsey Graham, a key McCain adviser, said Sunday the Republican candidate was considering a proposal to reduce taxes on investment, including a possible cut in capital gains taxes..”

You can indict a ham sandwich. A simple indictment isn’t proof of anything.

I wrote:
(Here’s what no one will tell you. Increasing business taxes increases reinvestment. If there is little or no tax on profit, the business owner cuts expenses as much as possible and sticks the money in his pocket. If the tax is significant the business owner looks for ways to use the money that avoids taxation. The best way to use that money is to invest it back into the business. This stimulates the economy.)
Michael said I’m nuts and said it would cause small businesses to layoff employees.
Nope, laying off employees would increase the bottom line and increase the tax. They can keep their money if they reinvest it.

Blain
Since you just copied that from somewhere else, you may not know the answer to this, but what the heck is an “Oath of Allegiance?” I didn’t know we had those in this country.

If the birth certificate smear was true the FBI, CIA, and of course, the McCAIN campaign would be all over it. No one is stupid enough to believe this smear.

I figure I’m hosed even with Obama. My guess is that “His Middle Class” doesn’t include anyone over the age of 50, given the remarks he and his supporters make about McCain’s age. Before it’s over, there is going to be class warfare under Obama. And,for the first time in history, we’ll likely to see the Rich and the Poor teamup to defend themselves against the Middle Class, who have said repeatedly how much they dislike any other group than their own.

John McCAIN’s campaign manager is still recieving money from Fannie Mae and he has lobbied for them for years.
How come no one from McCAIN camp has anything constructive to say about their candidate?

Business Breakdown $250.000 gross minus payroll,payroll tax, fed and state, unemployment tax,local tax,fuel and fuel tax,workers compensation, liability insurance,commercial auto insurance,lease or mortgage,equipment payments,state tax,utilities. We pay our share. You know not what you speak of.

Why is it that McCAIN/PALIN supporters can’t post something positive about their ticket? Why is it all they can is slander and smear? Why don’t they talk about the issues. Like the McCAIN adds 100% negative, 100% of the time!

John McCAIN wants to follow the BUSH Plan to privatize Social Security and “let” people invest in Wall Street. Can you imagine what would have happened if those getting ready to retire had invested in Wall Street? This collapse would have devastated them and added 5-10 years onto their working lives. Now say they are suffering from dementia or Alzheimer’s or some other illness that comes with age and can’t hold down a job. There are not enough bridges and overpasses in America to “house” them all.
John McCAIN has said “I really don’t understand economics very well” and he proves it nearly every day.

Why is it that Obama cares so much for the Middle Class and not for the Lower or Upper classes? Aren’t they important also?
hmmmmmm, would a Democrat please tell me?

Tuesday night, McCain, seeking traction in inhospitable economic terrain, said that the $700 billion — perhaps it is $800 billion, or more; one loses track of this fast-moving target — bailout plan is too small. He proposes several hundred billions more for his American Homeownership Resurgence — you cannot have too many surges — Plan. Under it, the government would buy mortgages that homeowners cannot — or perhaps would just rather not — pay, and replace them with cheaper ones. When he proposed this, conservatives participating in MSNBC’s “dial group” wrenched their dials in a wrist-spraining spasm of disapproval.
Still, it may be politically prudent for McCain to throw caution, and billions, to the wind. Obama is competitive in so many states that President Bush carried in 2004 — including Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, Colorado and New Mexico — it is not eccentric to think he could win at least 350 of the 538 electoral votes.

“John McCain proved to America tonight that he should not be President of the United States because he either doesn’t understand reality or does understand it and chooses to misrepresent reality and lie to voters anyway.”

Micahel,
I am so happy for you – a good paying job — and you think that is going to last forever? Should catastrophic illness strike or should you be laid up from a horrible traffic accident, the medical coverage you THINK you have will melt into the abyss. That high horse that you are currently sitting on will stumble and fall – and guess what – you will be in the bottom of the economy pit like so many Americans are now. There used to be plenty of folks like you out there – but not any more. They have lost their jobs and everything they have worked so hard for.

“prominent conservatives such as George Will, Charles Krauthammer, David Brooks, and Kathleen Parker have suggested Sarah Palin would be unfit to assume the presidency”
And esteemed Democratic politicians, such as Hillary Rodham Clinton and Joseph Biden have indicated in no uncertain terms that Barack Obama is dangerously unqualified for this nation’s highest office.

How the heck is that going to help self-employed middle class Americans, such as professionals. You need to address the self-employment tax, which persecutes those, who work for themselves.

Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton
and Gov. Palin: Obama unfit to be President.
Enough said…

“How the heck is that going to help self-employed middle class Americans, such as professionals. You need to address the self-employment tax, which persecutes those, who work for themselves”
The redistribution of wealth has to start somewhere.

McCain – Just Drop Out Now! We need to put Obama in office today. You can see the optimism of that in the marke results today. Why on earth risk anymore downside caused by these same old republican idiots in the executive branch who got us into this financial mess in the first place and have since messed up everything they touch including Katrina recovery and the Iraq debacle.

McCAIN Mutiny,
We would appreciate it if you didnt mischaracterize what Bush and McCain have proposed proposed, ok? The idea was to invest a fraction of one’s SS TAXES into the markets if that person wanted to do so. What’s wrong with that?
Posted by: Keepyourheelsdown | Oct 13, 2008 7:05:43 PM
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It’s a stupid idea! That is what is wrong with that. First off we do not have private social security accounts in the first place. The way social security works is that you get a certain amount of a very large pot depending on how much you paid in; how long you live; the number of dependents; whether or not it is disability based; etc. So if during my working life I decide to throw the dice on Wall Street I may not be losing my own money. I may not even end up collecting on it in the end at all or I may end up collecting and you may not. So, who’s money are we investing anyway?

keepyourheelsdown—–you people should not be talking about mischaracterizing.
The middle class has become the lower class in the past 8 years, where have you been? Restoring the middle class is bringing back the core of our economy. But McCain/Bush have other ideas. So far for them it’s mission accomplished.
McCain has not one time in the debates mentioned the middle class? Why? Because they don’t benefit him.

I see the liberals are using their oh-so-smooth powers of persuasion of name calling and ad hominem attacks.
Did it never occur to anybody that persuading someone to your point of view is seldom accomplished by telling them they’re stupid?
Yes, I understand Obama’s economic plan as well as anyone. If you think that raising taxes, on businesses or any other group, is going to have any positive effects, you haven’t studied history much…or at all.

“I see the liberals are using their oh-so-smooth powers of persuasion of name calling and ad hominem attacks.”
It worked with Hillary’s supporters. Seems like they fell right in line, since they had no where else to go.

Let me tell you a little story/
I was abandoned at birth by my biological father and held once before he denied his own!
I was raised by his uncle, as my biological father impregnated his uncle’s wife to create me!
I was in a Childs Holding Facility after my mothers devorice, then into faster homes and back to my mom and her heroin addicted husband includind my mom!
I was left for dead in a pool of blood, only to rise to my feet to run down the rairoad tracts for help! I was returned home by the police only to hear my mother lie! I shut up and my spirit feel down to loneliness!
I joined the U.S. Army at 17 years old, just to have a family! I served over in Korea Aug-’70-Sept-’71; I went through alot over there in S.Korea!
I met my biological Grandfather at 4, 6, 7, 20 years of age in a one on one visit, he was nice nice to me.
Before I went to McClaron Hall/ a Young Peoples Prison, my mom showed me a picture of my real Father/ I was 7. I remember about a couple dozen times being around my Grandfather!
My father denied me at the exspense of his shame, you see- my mom had two more by him!
My mom’s first husband named me after him out of revenge, on a count of what his nephew/my father did with his wife!
My mom’s first husband was on a flag ship out on the Great China Sea as an Intelligence Officer! I don’t blame his feelings of betrayal!
I am a victim of events, making me a non person- but, I didn’t turn out the way history should have read!
So, MY BIG ADVICE- Back Off The Slander On OBAMA- he’s done well with his candle
and has shown us through to hope!
How about all of us Veterans- Why did McCain steal away the hope from our POW’s waiting in tears for relief? Is this to not shame his familie’s name? Just like my biological father; he let me go through the beatings and shame! Did McCain turn into his father(?), The father that abandoned him- maybe that’s why he broke down(?), but still- McCain III closed the door to many abandoned POW’s- How would you feel in another man’s boots!(?) This is a classic case of repression, oppression and depression acted out/- in my opinion!
McCain CANNOT BE TRUSTED as PRESIDENT!

jamarier
Obama is talking about just going back to the tax rates of the Clinton era, when the economy was booming. It is nothing radical. In fact, it is undoing the radical money-grab of the rich during the Bush years.
And yes, corporations don’t pay anywhere near the tax that the business rates suggest. Closing those loop-holes is a big part of Obama’s plan.

“Posted by: indevoter | Oct 13, 2008 7:28:56 PM’
Interesting, but you have no counterpoint to his statement.

Obama does not even know the difference between capital gains tax and income tax!
Go for McCain do niot ,isten to MSMS and don’t fall into Obama!

Senator Obama has flunked tests for economic 101 and character. Do you want this guy in the White House???????
I do not. SOCIALISM IS EVIL.

McCain will win and Obama supporters will be so dissapointed!
All polls are false, do not blame people that we are racist after your stupid Obama looses in Nov, 4th!
because he is gonna!

RE: Post by rgkntulsa | Oct 13, 2008 6:47:46 PM Interesting. Where in the USSR did you study economics?

JOHN: I agree – the polls can be very misleading – the thing to watch is the electoral college and how each state is polling individually – right now Senator Obama 380 McCain 158.

I am afraid of Obama——1.He will give tax cuts for new businesses that will bring new jobs.2. The tax increase to big businesses will be on the same level as it was under Reagan. And why are you calling him names? 3. He will distroy the middle class? Got news for you-The policies of Bush and McCain made sure that the middle class is just about gone. Before you moron call him names try to rise out of that niveau you share with that so called vp pick of McCain.

About me,
I am charactorized as out of the box! But not over the top!
I think McCain is holding back alot of hurts? It was probably a hard family to live up to! I count him brave to his father, but- it was probably a fear of his father and family not to let dowm their family name! Nonetheless, he walked away from his disfigured wife as well as the men he left behind -through his action of closing their only door of hope and his no action approach of out of site, out of mind abandonement! He simply started a new life, closing all doors to his hurtful past life/ repression 101. He turned into a state of Denial!
Women that go through abandonement issues useally find a male figure to take up the slack of the one that did them wrong- i.e., they carry baggage to act out in oppressed states of anger and frustration thereby victimizing someone else/ and that is called fallout
ultimately like our economy, someone’s got to pay for their hurts and betrayal!

I would be so happy to lower my prices if you could please pass that along to all my employees and vendors and the state and federal government.I’m so busy, I forgot to ask them to cooperate in my conspiracy.

92% black vote for Obama. This election has created the situation where a black supporting a black in ANYTHING is seen as racist, and that in itself…is racist.
If 65% White are voting fof McCain, he will win
White against white and black unite. So Obama may win
Posted by: Truc Nguyen | Oct 13, 2008 7:26:16 PM
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I’m sorry but this is a rediculous commentary.
Obama is getting roughly the same level of support from African Americans as any Democratic President. Bill Clinton recieved roughly 90% of the African American vote.
I’m white, but after 230+ years of white Presidents and 230+ years of white Vice Presidents, and slightly more than a half-century away from segragation and a century and a half away from slavery (less than that for the right to vote), I’m not sure I could blame someone of color for voting their own race, if that were indeed the case.

Jim: Replace one word in your claim, and you’re on to something … “McCain is a fraud and a liar doing everything to become President.”

Get the facts straight and STOP trying to scare people.
Obama is a good decent man just as John McCain admitted.
Obama has NEVER funded a terrorist.
Obama has good IDEAS that make sense for everyone.
He will WIN and he will WIN big so stop making up stuff.
Obama/ Biden 08’

Sorry Sawrad….Obama is the biggest fairy tale ever invented…a massive show of smoke and mirrors. Do you realize his poll numbers have nothing to do with him…just a reaction of the American people to the crisis last month. He did nothing and will do nothing. The polls are tightening again as King Barack can’t close the deal again for the 10th time this year.

I guess he didn’t have the teleprompter in front of him!!! He finally said it……he’s a socialist!!!
Barack Obama told a tax-burdened plumber over the weekend that his economic philosophy is to “spread the wealth around” — a comment that may only draw fire from riled-up John McCain supporters who have taken to calling Obama a “socialist” at the Republican’s rallies.
Obama made the remark, caught on camera, after fielding some tough questions from the plumber Sunday in Ohio, where the Democratic candidate canvassed neighborhoods and encouraged residents to vote early.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

“I wonder how Joe six pack felt at the rally today when Obama told him that he had to share the wealth. This guy probably worked his butt off to get where he is and Obama wants to take it away. Yeah right!”
So now he’ll be known as Joe 3 pack?

Reid and Pelosi are lefty loons and have destroyed this country in the past 2 years. They reek of partinsanship and deserve to be removed from office. McCain will at least put his ACTUAL RECORD OF BIPARTISANSHIP TO WORK AS POTUS.

Linda/Michigan: Joe Six-Pack had better come to the realization that it is going to take every American to pull this country out of our economic crisis. It is going to take sacrifice on everyone’s part – including Joe Six-Pack!

I completely agree with Obama.
I have a Masters from NYU in economics and I’ve worked very hard to save money for the past 10 years.
I agree with him. His economic policy makes sense.

“Joe Six-Pack had better come to the realization that it is going to take every American to pull this country out of our economic crisis. It is going to take sacrifice on everyone’s part – including Joe Six-Pack!’
I agree comrade. Power to the people! Si su puede!

Jim—Obama betrayed the American people today? Just like McCain – you just don’t get it. Pathetic.

Jim: Polls are tightening?
RCP Average Obama +7.4
Gallup Tracking Obama +8.5
Rasmussen Tracking Obama +5
Reuters/CSpan/ Zogby Tracking Obama +4
Hotline/FD Tracking Obama +6
ABC News/Wash Post Obama +10
GW/Battleground Tracking Obama +8
FOX News Obama +7
Newsweek Obama +11

Mack posts:
“I wonder how Joe six pack felt at the rally today when Obama told him that he had to share the wealth. This guy probably worked his butt off to get where he is and Obama wants to take it away. Yeah right!
So now he’ll be known as Joe 3 pack?”
Well, Mack… maybe this will be good for Joe’s health. You know a fuller middle section is medically known to be a sign of many serious diseases such as diabetes and heart problems.

Blain—-Sorry to tell you, but you don’t loose a natural born citizenship.
Don’t brake your head by trying to come up with more crap.And by the way, where is the proof, and I mean a document that shows that Obama was a citizen of Indonesia?

I am a foreigner, and I think your country get’s your first black presient.
Just like up-stairs,Obama is obviously the one to lead you.

I am a white man, age 52 and I am for Obama as president and I will tell you why. I have been watching the debates and any other speaches that the two candidates have given. The one that McCain had that got me the most was the one in which Obama was called several names such as Arab, Terrorist. That has got to be the most pethetic thing I have ever seen. It reminded me of getting together to have on old time linching or tar and feather. I honistly think that those people would rather see our economy crumble than to put a black man in office. I hear people around here refering to Obama as the Anti-Christ. Oh come on now. I thought that the Anti-Christ was to rise into power with great powers and popularity. Yes Obama has done some things that I question. McCain does not have a perfect track record either. I have seen many videos of him flip flopping.

No president can set or collect tax.

From FOX News …
“FOX News/Rasmussen Reports Poll: Obama Leads in Ohio, 49% to 47%”

Obama has never cried racism.
REMEMBER he is just as much
WHITE as he is BLACK.
Please people make some sense and start talking about the issues not the color of his skin or some rumor you heard.
USE COMMON SENSE!

OBAMA’S PLAN IS NOT BS!!!!
IT’S BIG & SMART!!!!
WHERE IS MCCAIN’S PLAN???
CONNECTING THE DOT….MCCAIN & ACORN IN BED TOGETHER!!!!
NOV. 4TH = OBAMA/BIDEN08

Obama wants the middle class to tap our 401ks so he can “spread the wealth”.
We wold still have to pay taxes on withdrawals and that would probably put us in Alternative Minimum tax bracket. Don’t fall for this Socialist trap. Once you drain your 401k you will never get it back.

I thought Obama was IN Congress? Why is he talking like he is not? Oh, he thinks he is President. Well why didn’t he go and propose these pathetic ideas when the bill was being drafted?

Wow, Obama puts out a productive PLAN for the economy; and all the right can do is attack…Not on his plan, but other stuff…HaHa, this is too funny.
Unless McCain shows up to this debate Wednesday with Bin Laden tied up and duck taped, this thing is over. And rightfully so, Obama is simply better.
O and Joe ’08 folks!
Posted by: PoliticsAsUsual | Oct 13, 2008 4:11:56 PM
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That still wouldn’t get my vote. I would throw McCAIN a parade and offer him the key to the city, but I still wouldn’t give him the keys to the Whitehouse.
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Very funny and very true. I have to agree with both of you.
O and Joe ’08!

GIVING TAX CUTS TO CORPORATION WHO CREATES JOBS IN AMERICA IS A GREAT IDEA WITH SO MANY PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED ACROSS AMERICA!!!!
WIN, WIN FOR AMERICA!!!!
NOV. 4TH = OBAMA/BIDEN08

indevoter,
is there anything mccain could possibly say that wouldnt be criticized? He’s criticized for attacking and criticized for not attacking. The media would find ways to go after him,no matter what he says.

thank you dunlike for something intelligent

No On McCAIN – Love your post! Thanks for a good laugh – how right you are! :0

George W. Bush $4000
Mitt Romney $5000
Strom Thurmond $1000
Fred Thompson $500
Rick Santorum $3000
You know what all these republicans have in common?
Yes…ding ding ding. They supported William Ayers!!

Besides the points the McCain campaign is raising: Ayers, Farrakhan, “Rev.” Wright, ACORN, ….
Why haven’t we heard explanations for Obama’s explanations for “Not present”, the surge worked, “My Muslim Faith”, “above my pay grade”, or his positions on illegal immigrants being granted drivers licenses, social security, health care…
I have also heard the deafening silence when the issue of reparations for blacks for slavery had been raised.

Posted by: Jimbo | Oct 13, 2008 8:34:17 PM
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Jimbo you are so wrong. I don’t even have time to go into how many ways you are wrong.
Demand the truth from John McCAIN. He will either raise taxes or not balance the budget. He said he will do both, but independent economists all say that the numbers just don’t add up.

I’m already in the highest tax bracket as are many of Obama’s supporters. My taxes will go up, unless I invest in order to reduce my tax liability (which of course I will do). Most independent economists favor Obama’s plan. Guess what? many of them are high income earners. It’s nice of you to think of us, but if you really care about us you will vote for Obama.—————-Thanks, I could not have said it better.

Obama says a lot, but I don’t think the numbers work. 700B for mortgages, how much for student loans, car loans and credit cards? He has lost his mind if he thinks my children should have to pay for someone’s credit card debt, student loans and car loans. There is a big difference between someone loosing their home and someone not being able to charge on a credit card. It is the use of financing and immediate credit that has brought us to this point. I would love to drive new cars every year and use my credit cards without thinking, but we do not need those things. Americans need to stop spending money we do not have and so does congress. He is very generous with my children’s future. We need to stop living beyond our means. Obama needs to stop spending beyond our means. We shouldn’t be borrowing money from the Chinese for a stimulous check that gets blown in a couple of weeks. My children shouldn’t have to pay for the votes that Obama is buying.
His talk about now is the time for fiscal responsibility is liberal speak for “I’m going to need a little more of your money.” Our taxes are going up, and they cannot refrain from spending until we know the full extent of what we are facing. We will all have a bid case of buyers remorse if we get Obama.
Supposedly we had an emergency need for 700B, but our leaders couldn’t come together for the good of the country, they had to stick and extra 150B on our tab. That is a nice little add on so where is the financial responsibility in congress? Gone and Reid and Pelosi are kiling my children’s chances for the future. They are all fine because they have their big pension plans all locked up. Ours has plumeted and when it was time for them to address it they took the opportunity to put their other hand in our pocket. Then the dems tried to pay the corrupt ACORN a percentage of the plan. I guess that was a reward for their voter fraud. They don’t want our vote to count so they are registering dead people, illegals, criminals, whatever it takes so long as they keep their power.
I am very angry. I am more angry than I have ever been at the direction this country is hiding. Where was John McCain? I didn’t hear him naming names on who put the 150B and the ACORN stuff in the bill.

I’m already in the highest tax bracket as are many of Obama’s supporters. My taxes will go up, unless I invest in order to reduce my tax liability (which of course I will do). Most independent economists favor Obama’s plan. Guess what? many of them are high income earners. It’s nice of you to think of us, but if you really care about us you will vote for Obama.
Posted by: indevoter | Oct 13, 2008 8:36:13 PM
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WELL SAID!
Obama/Biden 08′

Even FOX News L-O-V-E-S Obama. They have him ahead in nearly every poll. One of their reporters said that “McCAIN is misrepresnting if not outright lying about Obama’s tax plan”. And even Bill O’Rielly has toned down the rhetoric and had more than a few nice things to say about Obama.
Now we just need to get Hannity, OK that’s pushing it a bit.

Better yet why doesn’t Obama just take every penny earned from those earning(stealing from the poor) over 250,000? Think of what he could do what that money! No one hungry. No school drop outs. No war. Go Obama/Biden 08!

over it – I too am taxed, especially when I discovered I made just enough to put me into the lower end of a higher tax bracket.I also have a family to provide for along with an elderly parent. So no, I don’t like it, but I pay it and I don’t have lawyers or an advisor to tell me how to hide it. Nor do I have all that extra cash to invest so I can get a break on capital gains!
At this point, Obama’s plan will add a SLIGHT increase to those who are and have been far better off.

I’m Angry! I’m VERY VERY VERY angry. I’m sooo Angry. Wow, I just can’t believe I’m this angry! I’ve never been sooo Angry.
I’m soooo ANGRY I can’t even talk about the issues. That’s how angry I am.
Why am I angry….I’m a McCAIN supporter, it just comes naturally.

“Let me state first I don’t have a horse in this race but I have a question for Americans. Do you believe in subsidized health care? Subsidized housing? Subsidized food costs? Sounds like socialism so most of you probably don’t. Then why, if many of you have forgotten, have you always provided these things to nations and people that do not live in the United States? You’re nation has been the greatest source of good throughout its brief history, yet, you find it difficult to look after each other. You behave as if there is a crime involved in being born into poverty, or, failing to achieve goals in life. The crime is forgetting that we are all our brothers keepers and I know that will cause a firestorm just making that statement. Who among us would walk away from someone in trouble in an emergency? Few of you would. That is what makes you an American. That is what makes you great! So remember, whoever you elect, to help each other climb up and obtain the dignity in life all deserve. Remember, “America is not great because she is more enlightened than other nations. She is great because of her peoples ability to correct her errors”. God Bless.”
The referenced dunlike comment… excellent
Posted by: dassis | Oct 13, 2008 8:39:54 PM
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THANKS FOR KEEPING IT REAL!!!!
NOV. 4TH = OBAMA/BIDEN08

CW — interesting thought, but are you also aware that one of Obama’s plans includes taxing what are currently deferred investments – your plan to invest to avoid the additional tax that he proposes will no longer work. In fact, the 40% of americans who now enjoy deferred retirement plans will no longer have that ability. Think about it..

I like this plan. Frankly, it’s nice to hear a candidate talk of specifics and solutions in a time of crisis, rather than the negativity and shifting rhetoric from McCain. Obama really has it together. He is the real deal.
Obama/Biden 08, the ONLY choice.

I am just going to vote for my wallet this time. That’s all. Gays can be gays, babies can have babies, abortions may continue or stop, boys can carry guns to school, we can invade any country we feel like and kill as many other humans as we like. You can tax me all you want or not.
JUST DON’T TOUCH MY WALLET!

Manolete
WOW… you sound ANGRY.
Take it easy man!

Why not change the tax law that makes it beneficial for companies to ship US jobs overseas in the first place. Does it really make sense to make people eat into their retirement savings? That’s treating the symptom not the cause.

Don’t be stupid, al’u. Just be selfish for a change. The criteria is:
Who will fill my wallet the most, McCain or Obama? Afterall, it’s only for the next 4 or 8 years. After that we can fight over whether women should wear pants or not.

Hey yeah go OBAMA! I want him to win so x938476093467 much!!

WOW !!!
” A Sarah Palin supporter brings a plausibly racist monkey doll wearing an Obama sticker to a campaign rally.”
you tube

arkie vet – time for YOU to check your facts! Branchflower’s report contains four findings. The first concludes that Palin violated the state’s executive branch ethics act, which says that “each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.” As a result of that finding, if the special; investigator so chooses, he can file censure or impeachment proceedings against Palin or so could the Alaskan legislature.
McCain was reprimanded by the Senate for his role in the Keating 5 scandal. That group was responsible for the collapse of the banking market in that span of history as are Bush’s policies today.
So do not hand me any lily-white crap in behalf of Palin and McCain.

Jobs Baby Jobs!
That One ’08

Once again, Obama knocks it out of the park with his brilliant plan, and McCain recycles garbage.
I wonder what Palin’s plan is, since she said that she wants to increase the power of the VP if she were to get it. McNasty

McCain’s campaign is dividing the country, how can we prosper when we have a campaign that is spreading hate and discrimination. This isn’t “Country First”, instead, it’s taking us backwards and that “my friend” is not the direction this country needs.

“Obama told the crowd that his opponent has already made his choice on how to handle the economic crisis by instead focusing on attacking Obama’s character.”—— Now why would Obama say such a thing to get the crowd riled up?? What was he trying to do with this divisive behavior??

There is a youth group that was registering voters under the auspices of portraying themselves as young democrats. There ideaology addreses border security not addressed by either candidate. They recently aligned themselves with a growing youth group in Europe associated with skinhead movement in eastern Europe and Austria to rid the continent of foreigners and muslims. Their goal in the US is to sway get their message out the the youth of America and underline the polls by registering as democrats.

” Obama leads in states with 255 Electoral College votes while McCain is ahead in states with 163 Electoral College votes. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 300, McCain 174 ”
Rassmussen

Charges of socialism are absurd coming from Republicans. George W. Bush just gave $700 billion to Wall St. and has now teamed up with all of the Socialist countries of Europe to pump more money into the world market. This my friends is Socialism of the highest degree.

Uh, congress voted on the $700 billion bailout. If I remember, 3/4ths of democrats voted for it, and only 1/3rd of republicans did. But hey, Bush is the reason for every problem ever known to man.

The fringe element of the democratic party is about to take control of a country none of them has ever gone to war for or fought for in any way. We are about to elect a socialist govt with no love for this country and certainly no investment in it. Welcome to the biggest welfare state on earth and g-d help us all.

Ronald Reagan never served in the military.

SUPPORTERS OF MCCAIN!!!
OBAMA CAME OUT WITH A PLAN!!!!
WHERE IS MCCAIN’S PLAN FOR AMERICA!!!!
THERE ARE PEOPLE ACROSS AMERICA WHO HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS!!!! EXTENDING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AND FOOD STAMPS IS A WAY TO HELP THESE FAMILIES!!!
IF AND WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR JOBS, THESE BENEFITS WILL SURELY BE THEIR FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!!!!
THE REPUBLICAN’S TRICKLE DOWN POLICIES HAVE NOT WORK FOR YOU AND AMERICA!!!!
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR ALMOST 28 YEARS FROM NIXON, FORD, REGAN, BUSH I & BUSH II.
IT’S TIME FOR A CHANGE FROM THE BAD, SELF SERVING POLICIES OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!!
NOV. 4TH = OBAMA/BIDEN08

Shiela, you clearly do not understand each candidates tax breaks, Obama is giving breaks to create jobs here, McCain’s is giving breaks for jobs that can be overseas and the company does not have to employ the people here, in fact under MCSAME, they get tax breaks for setting up dumbing offshore companies. Do a little reading so you do not look so stupid!

Socialism is needed because right now:
You can’t live without
MANDATED INSURANCE -Those that sit and collect other peoples money for doing nothing.
IRS -Those that collect everyones money so republicans can use it to invade other nations and call it capitalism.
GAS COMPANIES -Those the republicans fight wars for with our tax money.
LARGE FINANCIAL CORPORATIONS -Those who make sure you can’t start your won company.
It’s so hard to succeed, the only way out is socialism. Big dreamers think this way. Small dreamers listen to republicans that give them NOTHING!

Yes, Obama has a plan. Only thing is that he won’t tell you he will raise more tax for small business than the tax credit. I was watching TV today and a plumber was asking him this question, why Obama didn’t just tell him that I have a plan?

wakeupamerica – and McCain’s plan?

Obama couldn’t get a job with the FBI because of his shady pall’s. Obama baby, you are a good speaker but you are also the most liberal candidate from the corrupt South Side political machine. You are indeed a child of that system and I don’t want you anywhere near the Oval Office… have a nice day.

TPE -you really do believe all the crap the Republican talking heads put out there. I float on many blogs and those points are same things repeated over and over and over again by neo-conservatives. Do you people ever think for yourselves?

sandy – my words are from the MOUTH of democrats themselves…I watched the interview..no slanted journalism here (unlike ABC)..just the truth.

I heard his rescue. It sounds good. JOB.
His idea is better than what Bush did with the outsourcing of high tech jobs and turning America into a service country. I still remember GW Bush words when he said “We are no long a high tech country. We are now a service country”.
And look how well our country has turned out since he made that speech. Wasn’t that sometime in 2002?

Obama is quoted today saying.. “I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
That’s Obama’s plan? And you democrats are good with that?
I’m a lower income wage earner and I will take what I make. I don’t need the rich or the government to support me.
If you like socialism..then your gonna love Obama.

Nothing new on here that has not been said by the Repubs on every blog over the last 2 months. In fact all the same lies.. WHERE IS YOUR SOLUTION FOR THE ECONOMY? WHERE IS YOUR SOLUTION FOR STOPPING OUTSOURCING OF JOBS? WHERE IS YOUR SOLUTION FOR AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE (NOT JUST HANDING COMPANIES 5k). AND WHO WILL PAY FOR THAT. MULTIPLY 100 MILLION OR MORE BY 5K. NOW WHO WILL PAY FOR THAT TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHEN MCSAME IS GIVING TAX BREAKS TO THE RICH, THE MIDDLE CLASS THAT IS WHO, IDIOTS, WE ARE GOING TO GET SCREWED BY THAT STUPID IDIOT!! THINK ABOUT IT. WHO WILL PAY IF THE RICH ARE GETTING BREAKS, THAT LEAVES US TO PICK UP EVERY TAB!! MORONS..

Sandy, I believe in researching the facts for myself, not the elite media.

I know it’s hard to accept that McCain is losing, but he IS losing. It seems like a dream, so surreal for him to be losing to the likes of someone like Obama. McCain is out of touch. For those supporting McCain, I know it must be truly difficult. McCain won’t win this election because it is not his to win.

GREG H, QUITE LYING. OBAMA IS RAISING TAXES ON THOSE MAKING 250K OR MORE A YEAR. OUT OF THE APPROXIMATE 18 MILLION SMALL BUSINESS IN AMERICA, ONLY A SMALL FRACTION ABOUT 4% ACTUALLY MAKE 250K OR MORE A YEAR. THE MEDIA ALREADY DEBUNKED MCSAMES COMMENT ON THIS AFTER THE DEBATE. STILL REPEATING A LIE…
OBAMA/BIDEN 08′

It doesn’t matter if McCain comes up with some wonderful plan in the next three weeks. As long as he has Palin on the ticket, Americans won’t vote for him. These are troubled times and she just isn’t smart enough or qualified to be VP or possibly president. I get sick when I think that some people vote for the person they want to have a beer with. I vote for who I want in a meeting with world financial leaders. I will vote for the smart and educated Obama/Biden and you know what. . . . I would rather have a beer with Obama or Biden.

Gotta love the quote!
“If Barack Obama’s goal as President is to ‘spread the wealth around,’ perhaps his unconditional meetings with Hugo Chavez, Raul Castro, and Kim Jong-Il aren’t so crazy — if nothing else they can advise an Obama administration on economic policy,” McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb said in a written statement to FOXNews.com. “In contrast, John McCain’s goal as president will be to let the American people prosper unburdened by government and ever higher taxes.”

Famous for being famous, I always
thought Barack Obama was the Paris
Hilton of politics. That ain’t
really fair to Paris Hilton because
Paris Hilton has done a movie, and
a cd. It ain’t the greatest movie or
cd of all time, but at least she has
Something to show for all the air she’s
been sucking up, which is more than
I can say for Barack Obama.
What makes anybody think that the
congressman who did nothing, who became
the senator who has done nothing, is
gonna turn into a president who does
anything?

“Congress should pass this emergency rescue plan – the rescue plan for Main Street – as soon as possible,” Obama said, pushing this economic message to a crowd of approximately 3,100 at Sea Gate Convention Center. “If Washington can move quickly to pass a rescue plan for our financial system, there’s no reason we can’t move just as quickly to pass a rescue plan for our middle-class.”
I saw an estimate of 3 trillion dollars for this part of the program. It’s possible that includes the 700 billion program. I have read so much today that some things are running together.
“We’ve lived through an era of easy money, in which we were allowed and even encouraged to spend without limits; to borrow instead of save,” Obama said. “Now, I know that in an age of declining wages and skyrocketing costs, for many folks this was not a choice but a necessity. People have been forced to turn to credit cards and home equity loans to keep up, just like our government.”
Answering one of the debate questions about how to survive of recover from the 700 billion just authorized, Senator Obama responded with four investment plans. Where does all this money come from?

Republicans, if you can’t stomach jumping ship for Obama you can still vote for Bob Barr on the Libertarian ticket. Go to and read the platform. It’s more likely matches what you believe than the Republican platform anyway. McCain is just a nasty old man with a short fuse and a clueless running mate and he’s not going to win. Vote Libertarian and send the right message. McCain and Obama differ on Iraq but they both agree we should have an interventionist foreign policy in the other 129 countries where we have troops. (And did you see the size of the new embassy in Iraq? Those troops are going nowhere.) Both of them believe you should foot the bill for other people’s health care. Both of them voted to hand your cash to Wall Street and won’t talk about you how you’re already spending $250 billion a year just paying interest on the national debt.

Since last November when I started actually watching and research this campaign, I have noticed thar Senator Obama is really trying to divide our nation based on race, ecomony, age and gender.
I can not vote for a socialist who tries to divide and conquer. Each day, his rhetric and policies are more profound and scary. Redistribute the wealth is the bottom line for Obama.

Sandy, you find fault in everyone who doesn’t worship the “one” I feel kind of sorry for you. You and I do have a choice you know.

This guys is just great, at least he thinks about the middle class, all Mcsorry, & dumb Dora talk about is Ayers, Wright, & Iraq. Let’s face it we will all be under Dumb Dora’s bridge to nowhere if these 2 country first republicans get into office.

Work Hard to support yourself and family? Obama is going to take your money give some of it to druggies with no jobs and give other money to his corrupt friends. Gotta love it.

Socialism is needed because right now:
You can’t live without
MANDATED INSURANCE -Those that sit and collect other peoples money for doing nothing.
LAWYERS -Those who’s existance justifies Mandated Insurance.
IRS -Those that collect everyones money so republicans can use it to invade other nations and call it capitalism.
GAS COMPANIES -Those the republicans fight wars for with our tax money.
LARGE FINANCIAL CORPORATIONS -Those who make sure you can’t start or sustain your own company.
It’s so hard to succeed, the only way out is socialism. Big dreamers want the freedom in creating their own company. Small dreamers just want a job and listen to republicans that give them NOTHING!

TPE – Everyone has a right to their opinion – what I find fault with is stupidity. When a voter votes against his or her own best interest, slams the liberals, calls them names, cite mistruths, and yet can not state anything positive about McCain’s campaign or his plans for this country, that is just plain ignorance in action.

RE:
The Wall Street Journal OPINION piece (folks, that is somebody’s “Take” on something not a fact finding mission)… this article is flawed.
One reason is the numbers it gives for percentages of Americans getting “tax checks” (which includes “tax return checks”) and those paying no tax at all is remarkably similar to today’s numbers.
The article has a bunch of language and very few salient points — meaning… it is misleading.
The author and/or authors are entitled to express opinion. Their service should be to get others to think, research and make their own informed decisions.
Conclusion: Opinion is not fact. Test… and discover your own intellect.

I’m sorry, what was John McCain’s plan again? Oh, that’s right – he’s married to a multi-millionaire and he doesn’t need one. He’ll get back to us sometime. He has a new one every other week. Now he’s pretending he didn’t vote for the bailout plan. It sure doesn’t look like those people in the battleground states are buying a word of it.

Can somebody explain those strange flags behind obama in this blogs video? Please dont tell me that Obama has now redesigned the american flag.

speedy_453 – You call it redistribution of wealth, I call it tax breaks for people that actually need it. Warren Buffet doesn’t need an extra $700,000. But I could sure use an extra $70. Bill Gates can afford to pay a little more than 15% taxes on his income. It would sure help me heat my home this winter if I were paying less than 33%

Ok boscoe you and your wife make over a quarter million a year do you not feel morally obligated to help your fellow Americans that do not have the opportunities you have. I make a pretty decent wage myself not a quarter million a year but I have ablsolutely no problem if my taxes were to go up which they will NOT under Obama’s plan. If you can help someone less fortunate than you I feel that it is very Patriotic to do so. Do you realize that some of the people that those higher taxes on people earning a quarter million or more per year will help people who have fought and become injured for yours and my freedoms. Also for people that are physically or mentally disabled how does your moral compass work does it constantly point right back at you. Why don’t you just stop paying your income taxes there is no law that says you have to pay federal income taxes. You don’t understand the thing taxes are used to pay for do you. Yes there are people who abuse the system and that sucks but there are poor, rich, and lazy people who do it. And a vast majority of the people that our taxes go to helping truly need the help. If there was no such thing as inflation there would be no need for our government to increase taxes ever but inflation exists and always will. And if you are going to tell people where to go to see what Obama’s plan is don’t send them to an opinion article send them directly to the plan. That is where they will get the real info. Just like if I want to see McCain’s health care plan I would go and read the actual plan on his campaign’s home page.

While McCain tries to count how many houses he has and struggles to understand what the economy is all about (too late “my friend”) Obama tries to give answers and come up with solutions to our current problems. This is what I am looking for on a lider. Obama-Biden 2008.

pennsylvaniavoter
That is the state flag of Ohio the state he was in. you did know that there are state flags didn’t you.

Obama never said anything about taking away money from the people who make <250,000 dollars a year, he never said anything about making greater tax cuts for people who do not pay income tax. There are americans out there who are working 2 and 3 jobs as a family and still do not make over 30,000 dollars a year. There are decent americans who go to work everyday and can't afford the basics in life. Not all people on welfare are leeches who just want a handout. Sometimes, we need to extend our charities to home, to our own country. No one bats an eye when money is sent to third world countries, but when it comes to helping our own people oh, then we have a problem. Someone made a comment in a previous post that he and his wife had two jobs apiece, and they worked hard to pull in over 250,000 ayear well maybe if one or both of them would work only one job then someone else who needs a job could have a job and if the tax cuts are given to the middle income americans they could benefit and spend more with their children.

Allowing people to raid their retirement funds is not that great of an idea. The funds these people take out will not be there to benefit the rise back and in most cases, the funds they take out will never be replaced. The whole idea of a retirement fund is to have the money when you retire. Tax credit to employers creating jobs, yeah Joe Business creates 5 new jobs for the tax break and then fires 5 employees right after the tax break, or cuts their other employees work hours so they can hire 5 more employees. If you want to give tax breaks for creating jobs, then work out a tax break that’s based on the improvement of the ratio of work hours per employee, or what I’m trying to say is, if the employee number goes up, then the work hours must rise to support the employee number your claiming. As far as the 90 day moratorium, banks wouldn’t be foreclosing on mortgages if homeowners were acting in “good faith” to pay their mortgages prior to forecloser. Any re-negotiation of their mortgages should NOT REDUCE the amount of principle owed on the house, just the percentage rate and length of time to pay off, and the percentage rate should not be less than people who have good credit. Funds for State and Municipalities, that’s a good one! We all know what happens to money given to states and municipalities. Everyone gets a peice of the pie before it finally lands where it is intended. Talk about trickle down economics.

It has been found out that Palin’s husband is part of the Alaska independence party, a group that hates america enough that they want Alaska to seceed from the nation, she herself even said that the Alaskan independence party was doing “good work” it seems that anyone who wants to talk to her must go through her husband she’s not even really leading in her own office.

Obama to Plumber: Barack Obama told a tax-burdened plumber over the weekend that his economic philosophy is to “spread the wealth around” — a comment that may only draw fire from riled-up John McCain supporters who have taken to calling Obama a “socialist” at the Republican’s rallies.
Obama made the remark, caught on camera, after fielding some tough questions from the plumber Sunday in Ohio, where the Democratic candidate canvassed neighborhoods and encouraged residents to vote early.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Obama’s remarks drew fresh criticism on the blogosphere that the Illinois senator favors a breed of wealth redistribution — as well as a rebuke from the McCain campaign.
“If Barack Obama’s goal as President is to ‘spread the wealth around,’ perhaps his unconditional meetings with Hugo Chavez, Raul Castro, and Kim Jong-Il aren’t so crazy — if nothing else they can advise an Obama administration on economic policy,” McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb said in a written statement to FOXNews.com. “In contrast, John McCain’s goal as president will be to let the American people prosper unburdened by government and ever higher taxes.”
Obama frequently

“fight for what you believe in.”
The reason many democrats think republicans are uneducated is that although many of them are educated, they use their education in a crooked way. They like to twist the truth and distort facts knowing full well what they are doing. When the facts does not serve their purposes, they resort to hugging the flag and championing Christianity and morality.
Only those who can’t see through that concoction fall for it – the uneducated Yet many of them are immoral and in fact many of the things they are fighting for are immoral. Their favorite phrase is “fight for what you believe in.” To which I say, does it matter that “what you believe in” is wrong, immoral, and inhuman? Why have you refused to think or manifest what your best judgment is telling you – that you are wrong in virtually everything you advocate? Take ‘Right to life” for example. It sounds good, but that’s all they want, how it sounds. But they would rather you have a child you can’t care for so that they can offer him $20,000.00 to go and fight and die for one of their unjust and immoral oil wars.