By Lee Speigel

Oct 22, 2008 6:57pm

Obama Tells Virginia Supporters of ‘Righteous Wind At Our Backs’

LEESBURG, VA — "I cant imagine a more beautiful setting for us to be thinking about the last 13 days," said Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., this evening in Northern Virginia. "I’ve been traveling across this great state of Virginia for months. I’ve met folks everywhere I go. I haven’t seen a real Virginia and a fake Virginia, I’ve just seen Virginia," he said, in a dig at the comments of Nancy Pfotenhauer, an adviser to Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who said Southern Virginia, where McCain is stronger, is the "real Virginia," as opposed to Northern Virginia, a Democratic stronghold.

"If you’ll stand with me, then I know that we can win Virginia and we can win this election and we can finally bring the change we need to Washington," Obama told the estimated crowd of 35,000. "I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here."

– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

And how much did Obama spend to strip the American flag off of his jet and replace it with his own logo? How much did those styrofoam pillars cost? What kind of shoes does BO wear?
It will be an interesting two weeks…

Posted by: Not For Obama | October 22, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Looking good in VA but there’s still work to be done.

Posted by: Ryan C (the real one) | October 22, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

“What kind of shoes does BO wear?”
“Senator Obama was doing press interviews by telephone in a holding room between events. Sometime later as he was getting ready to begin his event, he asked me if I was photographing his shoes. When I said yes, he told me that he had already had them resoled once since he entered the race a year earlier. Providence, R.I., 3/1/2008.”

Posted by: Ryan C (the real one) | October 22, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

He really does sound like an angel whispering into my ear. A nice break from the broken rhetoric from the right.

Posted by: Keith | October 22, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

I can’t wait till he is sworn into office!

Posted by: Kathy | October 22, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

I am 60 years old and the best day of my life is going to be when Obama wins, and these sleezey, scumbag Drudge, McLiar, Hannity, lying rats climb back in their holes until 2012.

Posted by: jen | October 22, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

He’s such a schmuck. you can’t tell me even the Dems aren’t gagging by now….

Posted by: msa123 | October 22, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Inclusive politics over exclusive…Our country tis of thee or my country first.
McCain is so off point…being unemployed does not mean that one has no prospects for the future…my wife and I are not Joe and Joann plumber, we are Joe and Joann The Artist. As it is with the self-employed we are concerned about taxes…as we struggle with roller coaster income,taxable income, debt and children we are concerned with who has our best interest in mind. We don’t believe in the socialist accusations, we do believe in opportunity. That opportunity comes from a strong economy, who will best represent this nation into the 21st century…a candidate stuck in his old ways or one that brings the winds of change…

Posted by: KenB, MI | October 22, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

LOVELY…We will win!!We will stand with you.

Posted by: 2008shar | October 22, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Just a while ago, to keep the US diverted from Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden, Al Qaeda put out a call to toughen its fight with the US in Iraq. Now, unlike McCain who thought his adversary’s intentions were gospel and is still singing and dancing wildly in agreement with Al Qaeda, that the center of the war on terror is Iraq, Obama correctly smelled the ploy, and is declining to continue to be diverted away from Afghanistan, the real tangible front in the war on terror. Now, if you were Al Qaeda, whom would you endorse?

Posted by: Charity begins at home | October 22, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

538 dot com
When McCain senior adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer divided Virginia into the DC suburbs and “real Virginia,” Kristi Lauren Glakas felt extremely disappointed. Glakas, a recent three-time Miss Virginia title holder and whip-smart University of Virginia scholarship honor student, said the comments were divisive.
“What offended me and made me sad about those comments,” said Glakas, a resident for many years in northern Virginia, “is that I’ve been to every county, every part of this state. What’s best about Virginia is its diversity. The people, the geography. We have every class, every race, an amazing immigrant population… Virginia is the birthplace of America. To say that part of Virginia is not part of the real America is just offensive.”

Posted by: Ryan C (the real one) | October 22, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Ryan, Maybe you should also add that a man named Matthew Jacoby was just arrested. He ran an outfit named “Youth Political Majors.” He was hired by the California GOP. He pretended to get voter’s to sign a petition (against child abuse), which, without their knowedege, changed their party allegiance from Democrat to Republican, People were outraged and informed authorities. This isn”t from some ultra left wing blog. It is from the LAT. The man was paid by the California Republican Party.

Posted by: Mara | October 22, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

hear hear Ryan C

Posted by: KenB, MI | October 22, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

“Ryan How much did Obama pay to strip the US flag off the jet?”
The flag was part of a company logo and that is why it was removed. Total refurbishing of the plane was reported to have cost $500,000.
I could not find any figures on how much McCain’s new plane cost.
“Do you know The cost of the Styrofoam pillar?”
Total cost of the DNC was $54M.
The RNC has yet to release the cost of their convention. I wonder what they are hiding?

Posted by: Ryan C (the real one) | October 22, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Mara,
I think you said it just fine.
Did you see that the guy who paid for Palin’s wardrobe is the GOP’s robo caller!

Posted by: Ryan C (the real one) | October 22, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

The joke really will be on the Obama supporters when the day after the election, and if Obama is elected, they realize their lives didn’t miraculously change. Well, ok, maybe they will feel like things are better, but nope. Same life just waiting for someone to come along to make it better.

Posted by: Kitty | October 22, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Kitty,
I agree. They will still be losers. The difference will be that after election day Obama will actually tell them that to their faces. Oh, my bad, he did that already and they still voted for him.

Posted by: Not For Obama | October 22, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

I cannot possible imagine the ignorance of some of your responders. To benefit from being a republican, it is beneficial to earn over $250,000. If you do not, you are on the wrong team. Also in regard to to cost of Mrs. Obama’s clothes. They were paid for by the Obama family….Just like Cindy McCain paid an average of $16,000 per outfit. She most likely has outfits in each of her 7 mulit-million dollar homes. Also, why is it some of the blogs are so filled with hate??

Posted by: HANDY | October 22, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

“In any case, she didn’t sound anything like your everyday Sarah in Saks back then.”
Mara,
Did you read Robert Draper’s article?
She had a voice coach.
Palin is almost a completely manufactured candidate.

Posted by: Ryan C (the real one) | October 22, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Americans were at one time a kind and generous people. They are no longer kind or generous and seem to dislike even themselves. What is happening to America? Certainly a little consternation in the financial markets hasn’t created this great divide. It’s obvious to the rest of world and it’s so sad.

Posted by: international | October 22, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

“I cannot possible imagine the ignorance of some of your responders. To benefit from being a republican, it is beneficial to earn over $250,000. If you do not, you are on the wrong team. ”
That’s a fallacy. Over $110k and your taxes will rise like the great one himself.

Posted by: Mack | October 22, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

“Palin is almost a completely manufactured candidate.”
Sort of like the Jr. Senator/community organizer from the south side of Chicago?

Posted by: Mack | October 22, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

John McCain on Socialism:
John McCain, October 11 2000
McCain: “I think it’s to some degree because we feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more.”
Audience member: “Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism?”
McCain: “Here’s what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.”
Was John McCain right?

Posted by: mara | October 22, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

If you make up to $18,725, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., will give you a tax cut of $65, while Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., will give you a tax cut of $567.
If you’re in the second tax quintile, earning between $18,725 and about $37,000 a year, McCain will give you a $259 tax cut, Obama will give you a $892 tax cut.
If you’re in the third quintile, earning between about $37,000 and almost $66,000, McCain will give you a $608 tax cut, Obama will give you a $1,118 tax cut.
If you’re in the fourth quintile, making between almost $66,000 and about $110,000, McCain gives you a $1,487 tax cut, Obama will give you a $1,264 tax cut.
If you’re in the top quintile, making above $110,000, McCain will give you a tax cut of $12,144 while Obama will raise your taxes $4600 more.
Here’s where the starkest differences come in. If you’re in the top 1 percent of wage-earners, making from about $602,000 to around $2.8 million, McCain gives you a $109,214 tax cut on average, while Obama raises your taxes on average by $121,689.
If you’re in the top 0.1 percent, making $2.9 million a year or more, McCain gives you a $577,148 tax cut, Obama raises your taxes $699,872.

Posted by: Not For Obama | October 22, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Mara,
Is that the same Republican group that got busted for throwing away 300 voter registrations of people who registered Democratic in Nevada in 2004?

Posted by: Mike | October 22, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

And I feel like we got a righteous gasbag at our backs here.

Posted by: RL in Illinois | October 22, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Goodness, but aren’t the “neo-con nit-wits” getting angry tonight, must be all that losing.

Posted by: JR | October 22, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Hey, I live in Loudoun County, and I have news for the Obama team …
this isn’t “Real” Virginia. Most folks here are transplants, many from New York & California. We’re part of Metropolitan D.C., and that’s the only reason Obama has a chance in Virginia.
As a matter of fact, my husband was unfortunate enough to get caught in the traffic caused by the Obama motorcade and what he saw was loads of D.C. residents streaming into Virginia. So how many of the folks at the rally even live in Virginia?

Posted by: Jan | October 22, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

For the love of god people…do the math! McCain simply will not have the money do give you what he is promising.
Besides, he won’t remember anything he promised and the village idiot will be running things.

Posted by: JR | October 22, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Does that mean he has wings?

Posted by: Christy | October 22, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

“If you make up to $18,725, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., will give you a tax cut of $65, while Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., will give you a tax cut of $567.”
WRONG.
You’re not paying federal income tax if you make 18 grand a year. So Obama is writing you a check for 567 bucks you didn’t earn. Buying votes can be fun!
If that’s what you want, fine, but don’t insult our intelligence by calling it a tax cut. You can’t cut zero dude.

Posted by: Laaz | October 22, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

We have not voted yet. Duh.

Posted by: Angela | October 22, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

JR…speaking of village idiots, what gaffetastic remark has Botox Biden made today? Every time he opens his mouth he converts 10,000 Obama voters into McCain/Palin votes. Hahahahahaahahahaha. Biden is the best thing to ever happen to the GOP!

Posted by: Schratboy | October 22, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Neo-cons are Nit-Wits…..

Posted by: JR | October 22, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

Someone should tell Obama that it’s “We have a righteous wind at our back,” not “We got a righteous wind at our back.”
If he’s going to go with the sanctimonious crap, at least use proper English, please.

Posted by: LittleMac | October 22, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Littlemac,
It was correct. Jake quoted the line wrong. Obama said we’ve got, not we got.

Posted by: Mike | October 22, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Doesn’t Obama mean “a leftist wind at our back?”

Posted by: Steve | October 22, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Garrett,
Alot of people are going to be really disappointed to have voted for Obama and then find out he’s not really a socialist.

Posted by: Flash Override | October 22, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

I love the smell of Republican fear!

Posted by: Morvin | October 22, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

mike,
old folks still vote

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

boy you gop people are scared a black man having a little power better watch out for the little lady that spend’s 150000.00 for clothes.

Posted by: paul | October 22, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

Righteous wind? That’s just God trying to clear the air?
We’ll meet back here in two years, and you folks can apologize for voting this joker in office.

Posted by: Holding My Nose | October 22, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

That wind is coming from all the hot air blown his way by the Media…

Posted by: Quinky | October 22, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

“… righteous wind…”
Yeah, it’s called the media.

Posted by: Eric | October 22, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

With all the support Mr. Obama has received from the mainstream media, how could he possibly lose this election? I will not be voting for him, but I do wish him well. It is not going to be easy going with half the country disliking him intensely and believing that he is not qualified to hold the position. So he will have to prove himself to those people. Hopefully, his friends in the media will be there to help smooth out the inevitable rough currents. Can Obama continue to count you, Jake?

Posted by: jcarob | October 22, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Obambi’s a narcissistic troll. I pity the USA and all future generations if that dope wins.

Posted by: Chuy | October 22, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Getting a little too confident You Libs are all going over the cliff on November 5th

Posted by: Hank | October 22, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Boy, you Dems are upset that an attractive female can be Conservative, a Republican, a Governor and possibly a V.P.
And that Michelle Obama, who isn’t proud of her country — except once her husband was deemed to be Presidential material and she got a big raise — was having a hard time paying for extra dance classes and outfits for the daughters, despite the largesse.
I thought it was about as telling as anything about Michelle Obama ever could be when she sniffed resentfully on t.v. that the “$600 rebate check” was “only enough to buy a pair of earrings.”

Posted by: Poster | October 22, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

He has DOprah’s support

Posted by: plainsm | October 22, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

So far Obama is a muslin, bomb throwing socialist radical from the Planet Evil. McCain’s campaign is a disgrace. I would not put it past his spinners to put out a photo shop of Obama sitting in a cave in Afghanisan and sharing a crack pipe with bin Laden. Unbelivable disgrace to the GOP. The old man has lost his marbles.

Posted by: Bruce Josloff | October 22, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Dewey Defeats Truman!

Posted by: Dewey | October 22, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

I’ve been told the reason why it blows so hard in Chicago is because Obama sucks? Must be a Al Gore global warming, hot air (righteous wind?) thing.

Posted by: Garret | October 22, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Country First? Really? Really?..You’re sure you don’t meam “Election First”.
Come on..Palin is not putting the country first and that is why he is going to lose. He deserves to.

Posted by: doug | October 22, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Well, not sure about the issue of people not liking Obama as President. Name me an election where both candidates were liked. COME on…Dems don’t like Reps. AND vice versa… there ALWAYS is one side that does not like the other…
I am pretty undecided…but leaning towards Obama. I can not stand to know or fatham Palin as President should something happen to McCain. I wish he had chosen (which NO ONE ADMITS) someone better qualified. There are/were PLENTY of them out there WOMEN included!!!

Posted by: Richard | October 22, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

Schratboy: When you take into consideration that NBC and MSNBC are both left wing media sources, and Fox is essentially the only right media out there – the left have many more viewers.

Posted by: Penny | October 22, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

That’s no righteous wind, that’s gas.

Posted by: Leigh | October 22, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

Say your prayers, rosaries and anything else that can help McCain/Palin win!

Posted by: plainsm | October 22, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

I am not the redneck Murtha talks about in his railings. I stand up when the National Anthem is played with my hand over my heart. I believe in working hard for my money…not waiting on the tax-paying citizens to support my needs. My God and Family are at the top of my list of the most important priorities in life. I believe governments main objective should be protecting this country and our rights according to The Constitution of The United States of America. Not liberal judges making new laws as they see fit. I believe in every soldier who fought and those who died for this country and my rights. I believe in one vote for one person… I don’t like the government giving my money to Acorn or any organization to nullify my vote. No felons or illegals should even expect the right to vote. Every citizen in this country has a chance at The American Dream. Just Take It. I believe in my right to bear arms and protect my family and property. I believe every one in the USA should speak the language of the United States(English).That is the way it has been for over two hundred years. No one should be in this country illegally…We have Laws now..INFORCE the law at all levels. I believe the citizen who has been violated by a criminal act should expect the criminal to be prosecuted for his crime against him. I believe one man and one woman constitute a marriage…no other should be even considered and our kids should not be taught otherwise. I believe we should use our own resources for the energy needs of this country. Drill Here Drill Now should be a high priority. We can do it safely. There is no Global Warming!!! It is a Total Lie to take your money and spread it around the world. We do not want or need the socialist policies of Europe in this country. Obama and the Democrats don’t believe as I do. If this makes me a redneck…I AM A DAMN PROUD ONE!!!!

Posted by: Terrell Varnadore | October 22, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

McCain tells western PA that he thinks they’re racists-
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID ACCIDENTLY -but truthfully:
“You know, I think you may have noticed that Senator Obama’s supporters have been saying some pretty nasty things about Western Pennsylvania lately,” McCain told the audience in the town of Moon Township. “And you know, I couldn’t agree with them more…I couldn’t disagree with you. I couldn’t agree with you more than the fact that Western Pennsylvania is the most patriotic, most god-loving, most, most patriotic part of America, and this is a great part of the country.”

Posted by: Rev. Ike | October 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Terrell, I do not agree with your language but you are a PATRIOT!

Posted by: plainsm | October 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Terrell Varnadore
Great Post!!!

Posted by: Mark | October 22, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

It is unfortunate that Obama and McCain are the only candidates worthy enough of being on the dem and repub tickets…. they both suck…
Ron Paul or Mike Huckabee would have been much better choices for VP.

Posted by: Scotty | October 22, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

This Obama got to stop preaching us. He’s the ones who should be preached to.

Posted by: Mr. Welfare | October 22, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

I can’t believe the crude and desperate reactions here from you Republicans. The reason for all your bad-mouthing Obama is clear: you know Obama is going to win and you racist folks just can’t handle it. Face it. It’s over and poor Princess Palin is going to have to return all those “accessories.”

Posted by: Vicki | October 22, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Re: “I believe we should use our own resources for the energy needs of this country. Drill Here Drill Now should be a high priority.”
We don’t have enough oil. Why should we pay oil companies our tax money to drill for oil that doesn’t exist when the SUN and the WIND are FREE.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

The housing crisis was created by Democrats. Even Bill Clinton concedes that point. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, and even Barack Obama were paid by FNMA/FNMC to keep the fiasco going. Janet Reno threatened Countrywide if they didn’t keep up the garbage loans.
Pres. Bush has done damage, but don’t attribute things to him that were not his fault.

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Ted,
Fight for McCain, talk to your friends. The polls are misleading, McCain can still win and stop a 10 year hiccup in American power.

Posted by: JG | October 22, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Ted: “Gender Studies classes” Nuff said!

Posted by: plainsm | October 22, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Jim-Chicago -
By all means vote Republican because a woman can’t be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.
Vote Republican because a great way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, hen demand their cooperation and money.

Posted by: Paige | October 22, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

We get this sort of coverage of Obama and CNN read some nasty quote to Palin to trip her up. Turns out the nasty quote was the author of the article saying the media is not fair to Palin. CNN craftily left that part out – a total misquote – and CNN ran it.
We have seen America pretty upset about a lot of things this year. The immigration deal that McCain cooked up with Ted Kennedy is on that list by the way. The bail out was another. The treatment of Palin is now on the list.
We cease to be a civil society when we as citizens let these things happen. It is the current equivalent of what we did on civil rights. When a wrong is there and obvious we as citizens will not let it go.

Posted by: today | October 22, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Obama feels a righteous wind at his back and a very tight race all around him.One can just imagine the howls coming from his media shills if Sarah Palin had said that.On a level playing field this joker wouldn’t carry a dozen states

Posted by: Jared | October 22, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Hotandspicy:
Please research the viability of those alternatives you mentioned to replace fossil fuels in the next 10 years.
NO SERIOUS ENGINEER OR SCIENTIST says that sun and wind and tide can possibly make even a serious dent in fossil fuel power production quickly. Right now alternatives are at like 2% – they could double with strong subsidies in 10 years, maybe even triple. That still leaves you with at best 94-95% fossil fuels in 2019.
Please, be realistic and think, stop buying into slogans and misleading “expert” predictions.

Posted by: JG | October 22, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Re: “To those who think O is going to give you a “tax cut” by soaking the rich: who do you think employs you? When you make the rich poor, where will the poor go?”
Why don’t you take an economics class. Bush has given the corporations deep tax cuts over the last eight years and our economy is in meltdown and the corporations are begging the government to bail them out! Voo Doo economics does not work!!!!!!
The stupidity of the average Republican is destroying our country!

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

I see there is some controversy on this list about drilling off shore. Cuba, 25 miles from Florida, has started a huge drilling effort.
The left wing fascists in this country would prefer that we buy the oil from Cuba I am sure.

Posted by: today | October 22, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

It’s flatulence.

Posted by: Jo Blogs | October 22, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

I’m supporting Sen. McCain, and I don’t portend to be more righteous than Obama supporters, but I would appreciate Sen. Obama not question my righteousness.

Posted by: Obamacrat for McCain | October 22, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

I don’t know about the rest of you but I assume you are getting sick and tired of being called a racist because you don’t support Obama… so let me make this clear… I would never, ever, ever, ever, vote for Obama….not because he is black but because he is a socialist anti life, inexperienced buffon.

Posted by: Mark | October 22, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Go dream about Global Warming that will never happen. the planet is cooling fools. Ice cap gained 30% in last year.
______________________________________________
Greenland’s ice cap, which covers more than 80 percent of the island, is melting faster than expected because of global warming, a Danish researcher said on Monday.
The 1.8-million-square-kilometre (695,000-square-mile) ice cap, which accounts for 10 percent of the planet’s fresh water, is losing about 257 cubic kilometres (62 cubic miles) of ice per year.

Posted by: Paige | October 22, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

I’m NOT, and most Americans, are NOT upset about the treatment of Palin.
I AM insulted that the GOP tried to shove an obvioulsy unknowledgable candidate at us just because she’s a right wing poser and a woman.
She was not the choice until AFTER Obama went with Biden instead of Hillary. That’s party and politics before what’s best for the country!
The Republican party abanoned the very people they needed and opted for the minority of religous nuts who have aparently taken over the party.
McCain was the one Pub that COULD have won in the current environment, but not by appealing to right. He needed the middle ground Americans who overwhelmingly out number the right wing.
By chosing Plain, he lost the credibility argument and lost the very demographic that could have got him to the White House.

Posted by: Speak for Yourself | October 22, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Obama has clearly won this election. There is no question about it.
Having said that the notion that “95% of the people will get a tax cut” was the “mother of all political panders”.
And it worked! People sold their votes for a $500 refund check.
This week Obama’s handlers went back and re-worded it a bit so that one actually had to be working to get a check. That clause is as easily written out as in of course.

Posted by: today | October 22, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Last time Obama’s grandma was feeling badly, Obama said he was going to Hawaii to visit his grandma.
He went to Hawaii on a private plane (Oprah was nearby also on HER Hawaain vacation, complete with enterouge), he visited the grandmother for AN HOUR, THEN he went body surfing, golfing, played basketball and made press appearances and played on the beach FOR A WEEK. Grandma still not feeling well, nearby…

Posted by: Poster | October 22, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

I really can’t believe that this guy could actually be elected considering what he represents to this country. All bad!

Posted by: Rew | October 22, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Former Chicago Police Department commander Jon Burge was arrested yesterday on perjury and obstruction charges relating to the Area Two police torture scandal. Reader staff writer John Conroy was the first journalist to report on that scandal, nearly 20 years ago, and would pursue the story singlemindedly and singlehandedly for many years to come. Visit our archive on police torture in Chicago, which includes a who’s who on the scandal and 20 questions for Mayor Daley, who as Cook County state’s attorney from 1981 to 1989 was in a position to investigate and didn’t.

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

I would also appreciate it if the GOP would quit calling everybody who disagrees with their ignorant, retrograde views “un-American.”
America was founded by intelligent, intellectual men who valued education, not morons like McLame, Michele Bachmann, and Sarah Palin.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

jim chicago, how is it that the Democrats have raised our gas prices again? Funny, I thought the Republicans were the ones with the big oil friends (George Bush: “I’m and oil man so I know how to talk to other oil men”) who controlled that kind of thing? Like the way they jacked-up the price of gas in the summer before the 2006 election and then lowered it again just before the election so everyone would vote Republican? Notice how the price of gas is coming down again? Must be old Georgie and company have been kissing the Saudis again.

Posted by: mila | October 22, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Mr McCain should point out that his opponent has never once in his career said boo to a Democratic goose. In Chicago he got on well with everybody, from the local teachers’ unions to the Daley political machine. In the Senate he has voted with his party 97% of the time. He toes the most liberal line on late-term and partial-birth abortion. Even a highly experienced Democratic president with a record of bucking his party would find it hard to tame a large Democratic majority in Congress. A neophyte with a record of going along to get along could find it impossible.

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Why is Obama a socialist, Paige? Because he wants to let the tax cuts expire for the top 2% that McCain voted against?
LOL, and you want the govenment telling women what to do with their bodies? ok….

Posted by: Dave | October 22, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Righteous wind at Obama’s back… yeah, his own self righteous wind. He is superficial and arrogant. ABC, NBC and CBS are going to crash and burn when John McCain wins this election. All of your dishonorable, immoral ways of reporting the news to the American people will have been in vain. We are too smart to listen to your crap.
This is from DRUDGE:
ELECTION REJECTION: NETWORK NEWS SLUMPS; VIEWERSHIP FADES
Wed Oct 22 2008 07:25:40 ET
As the shouting from the trail and the frantic spinning from the anchor desks intensify, the audience is voting with their remotes.
All 3 evening news shows experienced audience drops year-to-year for the week of Oct. 13-19, 2008.
CBSNEWS w/ Couric shed a half a million viewers, falling from 6.4 million to 5.9 million; ABCNEWS dropped from 8.1 million to 7.6 million; NBCNEWS slumped from 8.2 million to 7.8 million.

Posted by: ML | October 22, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Jim-Chicago, I am impressed with your knowledge.

Posted by: plainsm | October 22, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

I wonder what position Charles Keating will hold in a McLame administration? Secretary of Taxpayetr Theft.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

I wa in the military for 24 years. I work for the military now. My son is overseas in the Navy, my father spent 42 years working with the Marine Corps. My question: If obama were APPLYING for a government job, could he get a security clearance. I don’t think so. But let’s give him the keys to our nucs. I don’t think so.
Old Guy.

Posted by: Old Guy | October 22, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Palin or Biden? I would take Palin over not only Biden but Obama to. She has the values that I hold dear, more Executive experience than either of them and if the libs hate her as much as they do they must be scared to death of her…. go get em Sarah!

Posted by: Mark | October 22, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Old Guy, I salute you for your service.

Posted by: plainsm | October 22, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Why should the taxpayers pay for Palin’s wardrobe? Republicans=crooks!

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

President Obama the ‘messiah’ will die in office and then rise from the dead.

Posted by: rater | October 22, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

The wind ain’t the only thing from Chicago that blows….

Posted by: Ziggy | October 22, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Plainsm,
Thank you.
OG

Posted by: Old Guy | October 22, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

“After talking to a few liberal friends I can to the conclusion that the only way to change peoples minds is to change their perspective. When talking about Obama’s tax plans don’t talk about 95%, but the 5%. I worked up the following little essay, which seems to leave people finally understanding the how silly this is.
Five percent will pay for a tax cut for 95%.
Five percent will pay for health care for all.
Five percent will pay for the bailout of the banks.
Five percent will pay for better schools.
Five percent will pay for tuition tax credit.
Five percent will pay for expanded stem cell research.
Five percent will pay for broadband access for everyone.
Five percent will pay for a “digital smart grid” (what ever that is?).
Five percent will pay for American car companies new energy efficient cars.
Five percent will pay for an expanded war in Afghanistan (10,000 more troops for Afghanistan).
Five percent will pay for the new war in Pakistan to find Osama bin Laden.
Five percent will pay for new jobs for unemployed.
Five percent will pay for better salaries for the 95%.
Five percent will pay for the new technologies for energy independence, in 10 years.
Five percent will pay for all the stimulus the economy needs.
Five percent will pay to finish building 100-year protection by 2011 for New Orleans.
Five percent will pay to lower the national dept.
Five percent will pay for restoring the Everglades.
Five percent will pay to eliminate the capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the start-ups.
Five percent will pay for new roads and bridges for the country.
Five percent will pay for tax credits for companies that create domestic jobs.
Five percent will not move their investments into tax free areas like government bonds.
Five percent will not take advantage of tax loop holes.
Five percent will not hide money.
Five percent will not raise prices they have control over to offset the taxes.
Five percent will not eliminate jobs to offset the taxes.
Five percent will not notice they have enough money that they don’t have to work anymore and just go home.
Five percent will not any way impede the government’s attempts to take their money.
Five percent will not get any representation in the new government.
Five percent will not get any thanks in the new government.
Does this make sense? Even if it worked, would be moral?”

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

ML – I am glad there is some back lash on Couric and the rest and their one sided “journalism”. Cronkite would never have played politics.
While the rest is name calling, the best I have seen was on another news article that painted Obama as the Milli Vanilli of political candidates. I do not like name calling, but it does point to the fact that we have yet to see who is behind the curtain so to speak in terms of Obama’s writing, etc.

Posted by: today | October 22, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

President McCain the ‘liar’ could die in office and then the idiot from Alaska would be president.
I’d rather see Cookie Monster as president, at least he isn’t a THIEF.

Posted by: JR | October 22, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Re: “Five percent will pay for a tax cut for 95%.”
That 5% just got a TRILLION dollar bailout from the taxpayers. They should pay it back!

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Dave,
Obama is a socialist because that is his ideological background and present view, as epitomized by the “spread the wealth” comment. Obama deftly tried to pivot today by saying he was really saying “spread the opportunity”.
We’ll see if that works, but seriously man, you don’t think Obama has socialist roots?
He rejected the DLC’s endorsement in 03 because it upset some socialists.
He was a member of the New Party in 1996, the New Party is an offshoot of the Democratic Socialists of America.
Seriously, you’re going to argue this?

Posted by: JG | October 22, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Bottom line is Obama does not have the experience for the job of POTUS. That’s all there is to it. Whoever writes his speeches and runs his campaign are brilliant and Obama is a master at presenting it but at the end of the day NO EXPERIENCE. I’m pretty sure the ad for POTUS is not under the heading of NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY. We provide ON THE JOB TRAINING.

Posted by: lori | October 22, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

John McCain on Socialism:
John McCain, October 11 2000
McCain: “I think it’s to some degree because we feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more.”
Audience member: “Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism?”
McCain: “Here’s what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.”
Was John McCain right?
—————————————-
No, he wasn’t right then and he is not right now. He has never really been a fiscal conservative in my opinion. He has always thought the progressive tax structure to be fair. Now we can argue whether you think it is appropriate but fair it is not. Fair is if everyone pays the same percentage or even if we paid for what we used and nothing more.

Posted by: BaldEagle | October 22, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Old Guy, i only have a few words for you but it will say a lot of you, You are a “Tree Hero” and thanks for your service and thanks for your brave familey who did and is serving for this great nation of ours THANKS AGAIN

Posted by: Bruce | October 22, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

hotandspicy says “Why should the taxpayers pay for Palin’s wardrobe? Republicans=crooks!”
My goodness. Read the articles. Her clothes are not being paid out of your $500 tax refund check. That money came from the RNC campaign fund.
The same sort of fund that is used to fly these people around on private jets and eat caviar.

Posted by: today | October 22, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

I believe any informed voter knows that Obama is nothing new; just corrupt Chicago politics, with a radical twist. As Davy Crocket said: “You can all go to hell. I am going to Texas.” Socialism will never be acceptable to we the patriots. We will not accept it. Beware the destruction of our Constitution, and God’s grace on our nation.

Posted by: jwaters | October 22, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Your days coming “neo-cons”, November 4 and your kind are “HISTORY”.

Posted by: JR | October 22, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

I’m watching Palin on the news and her answers sound like some third place pageant contestant. OMG, she’s so dumb!!

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

Re: hotandspicey Why don’t you take an economics class. Bush has given the corporations deep tax cuts over the last eight years and our economy is in meltdown and the corporations are begging the government to bail them out! Voo Doo economics does not work!!!!!!
The stupidity of the average Republican is destroying our country!”
Maybe you should check you facts before you put things in print. There has been no change in corporate tax rates during the Bush administration. The rates have been the same at least since 1993. Maybe you could blame the current tax rates on Clinton – I do. If you want to see progress in the country the rates should be zero.

Posted by: bobbill | October 22, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

They compared Obama to JFK, Jesus Christ, Moses and today James Bond. Obama is too fake.

Posted by: young_voter | October 22, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

35,000 people again?
I remember less than a 1,000 showed up for the old man in Philly yesterday.

Posted by: liberty | October 22, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

I write as an interested observer from Canada – in all my life I have not seen such a biased media in the US as there is now.
Obama gets away with many things – ACORN, Wright, Ayers, Rezko – that the media paper over. And yet Palin’s expenditure which will be pale in comparison to the many expenditures of the Obama campaign is painted as a huge travesty.
I’m pretty neutral about the election. It does not directly affect me, but to see a great country like America being bamboozled by a corrupt press is so sad. We will all be worse for it. I guess this is what happens when once great countries start their decline.

Posted by: EllenO | October 22, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Fox News Fan: What a wonderful fantasy. Does that mean I don’t have to pay taxes anymore? Your ludicrous scenario, which bears absolutely nothing to the truth, pretends that only the ffilthy rich will pay taxes. Not true. Almost all of us will pay taxes and many of us will pay about the same we are paying now – just a little less. If you want to discuss economics or finance, do some work. Or listen to Warren Buffett – the richest man in American – who freely admits that his secretary pays more taxes than he does. And that he is proud to pay taxes and support a nation he loves. So were my parents. So am I. So is my husband. You must be very, very rich – in which case – why worry? Your accountant will find all the loopholes he needs.

Posted by: Mara | October 22, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

What a jerk! I quess he’s trying to depress the voters and or send a message to certain groups that we (him) are going to win. Don’t fall for their spins. Get out and vote!

Posted by: Christie | October 22, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

More like, he’s got wind coming out of his b-tt.

Posted by: Brooke | October 22, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Re: “That money came from the RNC campaign fund.”
And a lot of that money comes from taxpayers who make donations. Why can’t she buy her own clothes? She’s 44 years old!

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

sounds more like righteous hot air to me.
amusing

Posted by: nevada | October 22, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

And Ryan C what do you think about Murtha calling his residents racists? Oh wait he did take that back and said rednecks. But that’s acceptable because he’s a loony democrat.

Posted by: jody | October 22, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

The best thing Obama could be doing is building hubris. If only McCain woudl seize on it as they did with the ‘Messiah’ ads.
-Paul
http://mccainpalin2008.blogspot.com

Posted by: Paul | October 22, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Socialist because Obama calls for tax on the wealthy and giving that money to the 44% of people who do not contribute any taxes to this country. Obama said himself he wants to put that figure to 56%. Who are these 44%? A lot are immigrants mostly illegal. Yes, illegals do pay taxes and have SS #’s, I know this first hand. Obama is an arrogant fool to think he can count his chickens before they hatch. I don’t know how any one can back a man like this. If he acted like this as a leader of a sports team or military brigade, he would not be respected nor followed. That is the indisputable truth. Who would want to associate with a leader like that? It would be unbearable.

Posted by: Jim | October 22, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Jan,
I was born, raised, and live in Arlington,VA. I pass the Pentagon and Arlington National Cemetary everyday.
Arlington, where we lay our soldiers who have died in battle. Where we honor the tomb of the unknown soldier. Where President Kennedy is buried.
Screw you and your opinion of what constitutes “Real Virginia”.
McCain’s brother calls this “communist country”. Palin says we don’t live in “Real America”. And now you and McCain have the nerve to say this isn’t Real Virginia?
As we fought for our Independence, George Washington crossed the Potomic River to suprise the British. Where do you think that river is located Jan?
RIGHT HERE in the Real VA!
And REAL VA is voting for Obama!

Posted by: Real Viginians are voting for Obama | October 22, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Can’t wait for all the free stuff.

Posted by: Brooke | October 22, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

If Mayor Richard M. Daley’s proposed 2009 city budget is passed by the City Council, 929 employees will lose their jobs, promising delays in garbage pickup and snow removal while taxpayers will pay more to attend sporting events and to park their cars in garages.
WHAT HAPPENED TO CHICAGO OBAMA???
YOU RAISED THE SALES TAX 10.25% THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

ah Jim Chicago, “Global Warming” DOES NOT mean that EVERY SPOT on the planet is getting warmer. (Although a quick check on the NASA website indicates that 2007 was the 2nd WARMEST year on record for the earth). England for instance is starting to lose their temperate climate because increased snow melt from the polar cap is sending more cold water down to the North sea, LOWERING the temperatures there in winter. The increased overall temperature of the earth is ALTERING the climates of different areas.

Posted by: mila | October 22, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

WHO CARES ABOUT VIRGINIA!
WISCONSIN AND MINNESOTA IS GOING TO MCCAIN

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Eery…. What was the motto of his friend, Bill Ayer’s “little” club again? oh, yeah…
You don’t need a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows…….

Posted by: Kay | October 22, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Jesus told the rich man to “sell all you have and give to the poor.” He told his followers that it was harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.
Is Jesus a socialist? Did Jesus believe in redistributing the wealth. I don’t see any of McCain’s supporters doing this. It’s really ridiculous that McCain and Palin claim they are holy and Christian, and yet oppose tax policies that tax the rich to give to the poor. This is NOT what Jesus would do.

Posted by: Bill | October 22, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Jim G family from Chicago,
Thank you. When we took our oath, we promised to “defend the Constitution of The United States from all enemies, both foreign and domestic”. But when I see the socialist measures being put forward by obama and look at the people around him as advisors and spiritual mentors; I have come to realize that we (all of us) may very well be the ones to have to mobilize to protect our country as it was established by the Constitution. The Constitution is a “go-by” for our government. It is not a “living” thing that can be changed on a whim, either by the President or the courts. If obama is elected, Be afraid, America; be very afraid.
Old Guy

Posted by: Old Guy | October 22, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

When people decide to separate themselves from a standing governing body, they ought to give their reasons.
All people are entitled, but not limited to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Governing bodies are formed to ensure these rights with the power derived from the people themselves.
When a governing body fails to ensure the rights, the people have the right to modify or abolish it, and form a new governing body as they see fit to ensure these basic rights.
This should not be taken lightly, but when the grievances are sufficiently egregious, it is the people’s right and duty “to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
These are the founding principles which gave rise to our great country.
Unlike other nations, we are a mix of cultures, races, temperaments, and means. Nationality in these United States cannot be determined by DNA test, similarity of our outward appearance, or accent. Our discrimination from others is defined by our belief in God given rights and the powers “we” grant to the government to protect them.
We are a free people with a government of, by and for the people. However, the clarity of purpose that gave birth to our country has been diluted and diminished. Too often those who “represent” us feel ordained to control rather than represent the people, control in a fashion that they believe is best. They are a voice to the people rather than a voice of the people. Government has become the beast that the people have to support at the expense of their safety and happiness when our core principles demand the opposite.
Within the next two weeks, citizens have a choice to make on who they believe would be best to lead one of the three pillars of our government. Barring some extraordinary event, the fellow citizen who will take that responsibility next January will be Barack Obama or John McCain.
Qualification is easily evaluated. Both are natural born citizens. Both have attained the age of thirty five years. Both have been a resident in the United States for at least fourteen years. They are both qualified according to the Constitution of the United States. It is the balance of qualities that are less objectively evaluated.
Neither candidate is without flaw. Indeed, the number of perfect citizens within our ranks could fit in a phone both with room to spare. But, what has each done with their mistakes and imperfections? Which candidate believes that government needs to be secondary to personal freedom and responsibility? Which candidate has demonstrated leadership and the experience of making decisions that affect other peoples’ lives … without the luxury of debate? Which candidate is more likely to stand for principles that differ with external affiliations or influences? Which candidate considers the position of leadership as one of privilege and duty more so than entitlement?
Barack Obama may very well be the best to lead our country beyond 2008. But the series of decisions he has made in his life, the manner in which he has contested this and past contests, the dishonesty and lack of candor about aspects of his associations and past activities, all raise serious doubts about his judgment. His relatively short history of executive decision making ability does not exclude him, but neither does it demonstrate this capability for the future. Finally, his vision is best described by the policies he wishes to enact. Few could deny that he believes an expansion in the role of government is needed. Yes, Barack Obama may be the best to lead our country. But, he may also be the worst leader we’ve had since before 1776. That is possible and the risk is greater with a legislature from the same ideology.
John McCain is also not perfect. The distinction comes when comparing how he has dealt with his mistakes and challenges. He has been forthright and honest. He readily admits that he is an imperfect servant. But, he understands that he is a servant to the will of the people. I have watched him on the floor of the Senate opposing and berating fellow members who chose to impart their will on spending the people’s money rather than letting these appropriations see the full light of day and be subject to debate the people expect. John McCain has dismissed the influences others cherish and cater to in deference to his duty. He has allied with those of apparently polar opposite ideologies when a greater good could be served. He believes in our system of government and has risked life and limb to protect it. These are all demonstrated acts not rhetorical promises easily broken. John McCain believes, and he has demonstrated throughout his career, that government has a limited role and ultimate power resides in the people.
For me, the choice is clear. For others, the choice is theirs. But, with the state of the world today, I would implore any who intend to cast a vote to do so based upon a careful assessment of the facts and your hopes for the future. Betting your life savings, your well being, your children’s future, on less devalues the great worth you have been endowed with by being a United States citizen.

Posted by: garry | October 22, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Bottom line is Obama does not have the experience for the job of POTUS.
And neither does McCain for that matter. Who actually has experience to be the president. There is no job description. They basically all learn on the job.

Posted by: annie | October 22, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

I went to a hospital in Boston today,with my daughter, for an appointment with a pediatric surgeon for my grandson. It was then I realized that there is a BIG PROBLEM!!!! We were the only ones who spoke English (except for the physician) even the registration people were difficult to understand. Wake Up people!!!!! With Obama it will only get worse, we have Deval Patrick,(Obama’s buddy) here in Boston. He was the test run for Obama, David Axelrod ran his campaign. Need I say more.

Posted by: blackirishblonde | October 22, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

hahahahahah when the McCainssss here are losing they get very UGLY just like McCain.
hahahaha nanananana hahahahaha nanananan
Obama Biden 2008

Posted by: maribomba | October 22, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Canadian: Our media ignore the crimes of Republicans and McLame. They ignored the Keating 5 Scandal, making it seem like old news. But McLame is running on his experience, which means his whole record is important. The ignored Phil Gramm and the Enron Loophole. If McLame wins, Gramm will be in charge of our economic policy, and he will steal what little money America has left.
The media IGNORE this!

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

This Marxist’s arrogance should be pointed out at every available opportunity.
Nobody likes an arrogant and cocky a-hole (that has WON NOTHING at this point!)!!!

Posted by: Toby | October 22, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Barack Obama proclaims his judgment is better because he opposed the war in Iraq that John McCain supported. That George Bush supported. That Colin Powell supported. That Bill Clinton supported. That the Congress authorized.
There are a few distinctions that need to be highlighted. George Bush, Colin Powell, and John McCain supported the war based on the belief that Saddam Hussein (can I say Hussein now?) possessed weapons of mass destruction and was willing and able to use them. Bush, Powell, and McCain also supported the war while in a capacity where such a position had real meaning. Barack Obama did so before entering federal service and before a friendly crowd in a speech.
The “intelligence” was flawed but Bush, Powell, and McCain made their decision based upon information. Later interviews with Saddam Hussein himself revealed that he wanted the world to believe he had the WMD and would use it.
Barack Obama touts that he “opposed the war.” Barack Obama did not have access to intelligence information. Barack Obama had no responsibilities or consequences of his “position.” Barack Obama opposed using force to defend against a ruthless dictator who had used weapons of mass destruction to kill Iraqi and Iranian civilians, had repeatedly violated international mandates to deweaponize and disclose his programs, had previously invaded a sovereign state to destabilize the region, and had proclaimed the United States and her allies as enemies. Way to go Barry. Even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut (no reference to ACORN intended).

Posted by: garry | October 22, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Virginia will not go with Obama. Trust me.

Posted by: Christie | October 22, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Mark: What a load of garbage. Stop using our soldiers as a cheap ploy to get people to vote for McLame.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Bobbill:
Eh, this financial meltdown is not caused by taxcuts, nitwit.
Read up on what happens when you try to create “housing equality” and force banks to make loans to people who can’t afford them.. backed by Fannie/Freddie (no worries – it’s guaranteed… suuuuure). Then watch the house come a tumblin’ down.
Also, why did the democrats for the past 2 years as a majority and 5 years in total ignore the warnings from Republicans in the House, Senate, and White House about this growing problem?
Instead of looking what you can pin on Bush, look at the problem. You’ll be better off for it.

Posted by: Conservative in CA | October 22, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

This week, Biden warned America that an Obama victory would invite a dangerous global showdown between tyrants and the naïf Obama. “Mark my words,” Biden said Sunday at a Democratic fund-raiser. “It will not be six months [after the inauguration] before the world tests Barack Obama
This isn’t the truly scary part of the speech – the second half of the statement is far more telling. To paraphrase, he stated that the world community will not see credibility in Obama’s response to this supposed test – his colleagues will have to engage in a massive PR campaign (read: propaganda campaign)to make them understand that it is the proper response

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

hey folks, c’mon we should appreciate what’s good in us. Obama at his age represents what America longs for, namely depth in intellect and learning, outstanding erudition, not to mention remarkable leadership quality and mettle, a terrific personality plus an eagerness to serve etc. Lets not toss the baby with the bath water. whatever partisan differences we proffer, Obama is our pride. The world watches in awe as America parades her champions…sure Obama does the nation great good

Posted by: Sam | October 22, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

I live how GOP hypocrits like Toby call redistribution of wealth in the US socialism, but all CHAMPIONED the Iraqi Oil Sharing plan where US Oil Co shareholders have the profits and dividends that should belong to them SEIZED by the IRAQI WINDFALL PROFITS TAX and redistributed to all the Iraqis in a SOVIET STYLE WELFARE PROGRAM.

Posted by: jefflib | October 22, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

There’s a very good chance that Va will go to Obama. Look at Warner, Kaine and Webb. The state is turning democratic.

Posted by: annie | October 22, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

There’s a very good chance that Va will go to Obama. Look at Warner, Kaine and Webb. The state is turning democratic.———————-The repubs did not vote in record numbers during the primaries. George Allen had a hit piece done on him..then Webb got it..

Posted by: Christie | October 22, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

I say who cares about Virgina. Minnesota and Wisconsin are poised to go red.

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

JR, i bet you are a theif prob thats the way you were raised.

Posted by: rip | October 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Old Guy,
Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness…when a government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it!
And that’s EXACTLY what has occured and EXACTLY what we are doing. We are altering the course of a government that has become destructive to the basic pusuit of the liberities that we hold as self evident.
And it doesn’t get any more AMERICAN than that!
(By the way, though I think your “socialism” chants are rhetorical BS, nowhere in the Constitution does it say the US was meant to be a purely capitalist free market economy. And, if you don’t know, we never have been. Not for 200+ years. It’s always been a mixed one.)

Posted by: YOUNG GUY KNOWS HISTORY | October 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

I can’t help but wonder if half the Democrat party really believes “democrat president obama” would be a win for their party. Kind of hard to get behind that level of hype if you aren’t into it.

Posted by: muh-oon | October 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Joe Biden comparing Senator Obama to the late, great President John F. Kennedy is just laughable.
JFK was a legitimate war hero, much like John McCain.
Senator Obama, well, he “organized communities in Chicago.”

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

I find it hilarious that all of the libs fawn over Obama’s supposed intellegince. He’s slick but I will take substance over style any day. McCain has more substance by a long shot.

Posted by: Mark | October 22, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Jim-Chicago: “All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.”
The fact that you appear to be equating weather (short term events) with climate (long term events) suggests you have no idea what you’re talking about. People KNOW it’s getting warmer – you’re insulting the intelligence of every farmer in America, amateur hockey player who lives near a pond in Canada, and engineer who deals with Alaskan permafrost construction. Reality doesn’t change because of one arrogant armchair climatologist.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 22, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

you’ve got to know all that we know and don’t know about obama, thier are those at the deepest levels of govt (cia) etc, who if they know whats up, will have this guy watched like a hawk. things are gonna be interesting. his first move on our right to bear arms, look for things to get interesting.

Posted by: mike | October 22, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

Arnold Schwarzenegger today made clear that while Sarah Palin is not ready for office yet, she no doubt will be ready to be president by January 21.
LOL!
Thank you, Arnold!
I’m afraid though that Mrs. Palin will be handing out shoes and blouses to charity in Alaska, come January 21.

Posted by: steep | October 22, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

Hey, EllenO from Canada. You seem to know a few things of declining countries, eh? As we are struggling with the polarization of our country bought about by 8 years of “inept governing” it is easy to single out the media as biased and leave it at that. However, as you have seen, and sit tight, we’ll work our way through this. We are Americans, red , black, yellow, white and all other races , colors and backgrounds. We have the Internet, eh? Each and every word and action is scrutinized, chewed and spat out in a way to let the viewer decide. We are not perfect, but we arent quitters. We feed the media, beleive me, not the other way around. And as such when something doesnt play to our liking we can always blame it on the media. A natural response, not a phenomena. Sit tight it always gets whacky around here on every fourth year, ok?

Posted by: the American Pi | October 22, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

I can’t believe that there are people that favor either of these candidates. They’re both awful. I can’t recall an election with more of a “lose-lose” outcome than this one.

Posted by: Chuck | October 22, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

What Obama really means is, “It’s payback time!”

Posted by: USmarine0331 | October 22, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

mike, so they have computers and Internet in your asylum?
How great for you! Enjoy playing around with your keyboard!

Posted by: wittgenstein | October 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Senator Obama, well, he “organized communities in Chicago.”
———————–
This cracks me up. You make fun of being an organizer and yet you’re getting your butts kicked because Obama’s camapign was vastly superior in it’s organization and planning.
Oh, the irony!

Posted by: More funny stuff from the right | October 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

I have a lot of relatives all over VA; mostly southern, but some in the north. All of them are voting for Obama. They say it is only the racists and nazi groups and the fanatic religious groups who support McCain. They tell me that most people they talk to are really fed up with the republicans and the last 8 years. They see through McCain’s doubletalk and are surprised he hasn’t paid someone to attack us militarily yet….I had to laugh but it isn’t funny. Nothing is beyong the GOP. Obama is the future; McCain is the past. Move over you old arrogant grump!

Posted by: kay | October 22, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Young Guy Knows History,
Well said. PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. No guarentee of happiness. I have pursued happiness by going to years of school while raising a family and serving full time active duty. I have happiness. I have accomplished much and have worked to my current standard of living. I was not given anything. I earned it. I pursued it. Why should my taxes be increased to give happiness to someone who chooses not to work. Now, don’t get me wrong. I donate above the nation average and serve my community (at times) at no charge to them. But to finance someone elses happiness is not fair to those who have work to attain their own happiness. Happinees is not guarenteed, the right for the “pursuit of happiness” is.
Old Guy

Posted by: Old Guy | October 22, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Amazing that the marxists vilify McCain for Keating Five … How soon they forget that McCain was absolved of any wrong-doing along with (In Church Lady tones) … Was it JOHN GLENN?
LMAO at unthinking talking point lemmings!

Posted by: Rod Miller | October 22, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Wow. And people call Palin a religious nut. It’s almost as if Obama thinks of himself as a leader of a cult …

Posted by: Evan | October 22, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Cammie: Mclame is old and we might get stuck with Palin as President if they win.
I don’t care if Obama was only in the Senate for one day–I will still take him over that wind up doll Palin. She lacks experience and she’s dumb!
GOP=the dumb party!

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

George Allen had a hit piece done on him..then Webb got it..
Posted by: Christie | Oct 22, 2008 9:23:50 PM
A hit, oh please. He called some a democratic volunteer of Indian descent, “macaca”. And you call that a hit, I call it being highly insensitive among other things. He certainly paid for it didn’t he.

Posted by: annie | October 22, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Hey Bill, apparently you took the passage about Jesus telling the rich man to sell all that he had and give it to the poor, out of context. No, Jesus wan not a Socialist. He was making a point to the rich young ruler, who thought he was righteous, that in reality he was selfish. He wasn’t willing to get rid of the idols “things” that he had so he wasn’t committed to Jesus. That was the whole point- to show him his hypocrisy. Read the rest of the passage and keep it in context and don’t use just one verse to justify such a position.

Posted by: lynnd currently in Chattanooga | October 22, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Righteous wind…huh! The only righteousness about Obama is his majorly inflated self righteousness!
NObama…NObama…NObama…NObama!

Posted by: Gidgt | October 22, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Again. who cares about Virgina. McCain is getting Minnesota and Wisconsin.

Posted by: Fox news Fan | October 22, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

McLame is losing in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Get real.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Kay at 9:30 said in part “They say it is only the racists and nazi groups and the fanatic religious groups who support McCain.”
You should be ashamed of yourself. It is one thing to discuss the issues, but to make attacks like this is crude and ignorant.

Posted by: Sheila | October 22, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

It is remarkable that the American people are willing to accept Palin as our next President. (yes, that was intentional)
We have in front of us a man who is exceptionally intelligent, surrounds himself with the creme de la creme (that would mean those that know what the heck they are doing for those of you who don’t know French) and is the only hope for bringing this sad Country back together.
Shame on all of you who think that McCain/Palin will do anything but bring this Country to its knees in the international arena.
Think before you vote. Vote for intelligence, calm, humility and international respect.
We as a Country can afford no less.
And yes, I am a highly educated working mother and wife who lives in (communist) Northern Virginia.

Posted by: Amazed | October 22, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

A Veteran,
A cold chill just ran up my spine.
Old Guy
(Vietnam)

Posted by: Old Guy | October 22, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

“a righteous wind at our backs”?
Is this a sermon or just another political speech???

Posted by: deb in arkansas | October 22, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Again. who cares about Virgina. McCain is getting Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Posted by: Fox news Fan | Oct 22, 2008 9:34:06 PM
Are you kidding. McCain needs Va. He can’t afford to lose a red state.

Posted by: annie | October 22, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Seems likes a very narcissistic rant on the part of Obama. I believe he will end up losing Virginia in the end even if he racks up big margins in the northern part of the state. The pollsters are just giving Democrats too much credit again!

Posted by: Rob from NY | October 22, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

The Fed is a private bank, and the US borrows from the Fed and all of your taxes pay interest to the Fed. The Constitution says the Treasury should coin the money, but in 1913 we passed the Fed Reserve Act. This is why we are broke. When politicians need money, the Fed prints it and we pay for it. McBama does not discuss this, of course. If you want to really know what is going on, watch America Freedom to Fascism, free. And google this article: Rule by Fear or Rule by Law by former Congressman Dan Hamburg. You will be shocked.

Posted by: FedAsFederalExpress | October 22, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Dave wrote:
Why is Obama a socialist, Paige? Because he wants to let the tax cuts expire for the top 2% that McCain voted against?
LOL, and you want the govenment telling women what to do with their bodies? ok….
—————————————
No Obamna is a Socialist because he espouses Socialist ideas, many of his personal contact espouse Socialist ideals and even his own party has a growing commitment to the DSA. If you are not familiar with DSA Dave, that is Democratic Socialists of America. Hey Dave, they have their own constitution, jnust like they are their own government. Now they want us to not just join them but be forced to join them. They used to a long time ago list the members of Congress on Bernard Sanders (you know him, he is a Socialist in congress) website that belonged to the DSA, but I see they have taken that page down since it is better to hide that fact from the general public. In that constitutilon it states that any member that disagrees with the current rules will be removed from the membership roll. Can you imagine being denied membership in the good ole USA because you disagree with the rules? Or worse yet be imprisoned? That happens in Socialist countries. I am not saying Obama will necessarily be going that far but we keep taking small steps towards it with these Democrats and honestly I also believe Socialists have started to infiltrate the Republican party (neocons) as well.

Posted by: BaldEagle | October 22, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Re: “Obama still hasn’t produced it to my knowledge in the court proceeding.”
OMG, the FBI has already done a background check on Obama. Do you really think that anybody could get this far in the process without a total check being done on them? You guys are ridiculous.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

“Again. who cares about Virgina. McCain is getting Minnesota and Wisconsin.”
Maybe you should at least try to pay SOME attention to the polls.
There were two Wisconsin polls today (check RCP latest polls): one had Obama up 11 points, the other 13 points.
Obama is out of reach for McCain in Wisconsin.
The last 4 Minnesota polls had Obama up 11 points, 13 points, 11 points and 6 points.
Obama is out of reach for McCain in Minnesota as well.

Posted by: pollster | October 22, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Joe American – I think that what you posted was great but you have to remember, Democrats or people mesmerized by “That One” can’t read that much…way too much brain usage.

Posted by: Gidgt | October 22, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

“His arrogance is disgraceful and appalling.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | October 22, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

He does indeed have a righteous wind.
Obama ’08

Posted by: Virginian Marine | October 22, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

hotandspicy
If that were true why is the suit still in the courts. Why hasn’t the judge thrown it out? Why hasn’t Obama with great fanfare produced it to show the world he is qualified instead of the path he has chosen.

Posted by: A Veteran | October 22, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

What change has Obama brought in his Senate career?

Posted by: Michael | October 22, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

ou couldn’t get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after
143 days of experience.
You couldn’t become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of
being a surgeon.
You couldn’t get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143
days of experience.
You couldn’t join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days of experience.
You couldn’t get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor
after 143 days of experience.
BUT…. ‘From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State
Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate.
That’s how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World … 143 days We all have to start somewhere. The senate is a good start, but after 143 days, that’s all it is – a start AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public is okay with this and campaigning for him. We wouldn’t accept this in our own line of work, yet some are okay with this for the President of the United States of America? Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol! Please, please forward this before it’s too late!!!!

Posted by: cammie | October 22, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

Sadly the great country our founders established is long gone. If Obama gets in than we should apologise to England and the family of King George III. We will become a Euro-Socialist country.

Posted by: Brad Holman | October 22, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

This one is also good:
“I am disappointed that the Senate Finance Committee preferred instead to cut the top tax rate of 39.6% to 36%, thereby granting generous tax relief to the wealthiest individuals of our country at the expense of lower- and middle-income American taxpayers.” [McCain Senate floor statement, May 21, 2001]

Posted by: Paige | October 22, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

Two things Drudge readers need to know:
1) Obama and his supporters love America. It’s true. Don’t believe the smears.
2) Obama is going to win. Relax. It’s going to be okay.

Posted by: Virginian Marine | October 22, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Rod Miller:
Were you trying to make some kind of point? Your gibberish is meaningless.
The transitive property is not viable in a sociological context. And yet, that’s every statement made by Pubs on this blog.
Someone else said something that is remotely similar to Obama if you have a vivid imagination, so Obama must be the same is NOT a credible arguement.

Posted by: It's pathetic in here tonight | October 22, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

Rick,
I couldn’t agree more. Thanks for the opinion

Posted by: A Veteran | October 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

David Verat….I would still like the President of the United States of America to put his hand over his heart during our National Anthem. I apologize for may date error. These are the reasons so many Americans are suspect on this guy. How can we not be with all his past history….your the history major. Can you explain his history?

Posted by: Robert | October 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Does anyone here realize that Berg, You know the lawyer with the lawsuit about the Birth Certificate is A Democrat???

Posted by: A Veteran | October 22, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Dems were outraged that Bush exploited religion to win votes.
Now Obama is doing it – and it’s okey dokey.
But some Dems aren’t seeking a father figure – nor a savior.
Dems for McCain/Palin!

Posted by: JoseyJ | October 22, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

cammie
The only thing you have to have to become POTUS, is have people vote for you. Maybe when you can convince more than 60 million people to vote for you, you can be POTUS too.
Isn’t democracy great?

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

The only thing you have to have to become POTUS, is have people vote for you.
Actually according to the constitution you hace to be a NATURAL born citizen. be at least 35 years old and have been living in the US for more than 14 years straight. The constitution is what they swear to uphold and defend

Posted by: A Veteran | October 22, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

And Derrek, we’re sick of the past 8 years of republican rule. No more.

Posted by: d | October 22, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

In an idiot race your guy loses big time
================================
OH REALLY MARK?
WHICH STATEMENT WILL BE REMEBERED AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER AS THE BEGINNING OF THE END? TAKE A GUESS:
But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Helping the — Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. Shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americas.
And trade we’ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation.

Posted by: I think your folks win | October 22, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

Sarah will have to go to history class with Biden who saw FDR on TV talking about the depression before it happened, and while FDR was still governor of NY.

Posted by: No History buff | October 22, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

It’s not that McCain can’t win, it’s that he shouldn’t. I’m a registered Republican but I don’t want another four years of this, I didn’t in 2004. We have to begin to think globally, otherwise our way of life won’t survive.
We’re in it for the species here folks, think about it.
Please…..

Posted by: Al | October 22, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

I think your folks win
Yeah really… Biden is an idiot who can’t keep his mouth shut. You do realize that between him and Joe the plumber it cost Obama the election… Thank God!

Posted by: Mark | October 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Ok now, Paige and David Verat….to quote a previous President of the United States, who WOULD put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, “There ya go again”. Both of you are off topic, Why won’t he put his freakin hand over his heart during the National Anthem? why? No dates are needed to make your case, just answer why he refuses to show respect to every American that has every lived? And show respect to AMERICA!

Posted by: Robert | October 22, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Mack:
“OMG, the FBI has already done a background check on Obama. Do you really think that anybody could get this far in the process without a total check being done on them? You guys are ridiculous. ”
This is what drives me nuts, you really think everything is OK? Oh, nobody could possible run for president without anybody doing a full background check. Well your wrong. You must be listening to the rest of the crowd and just going along with them. Please find these things out for yourself, so you can make an informed decision!
Security checks are not done on presidential candidates. If so Obama would not pass!

Posted by: BB | October 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

The elitist, Cindy McCain and her senator husband, John, are headed back to Sadona while Sarah and AK’s “first dude” are going back to Alaska, “north to Russia’s own”. They’re finished, kaput, washed-up, DONE.
Palin said, if elected, she would advocate for children with “special needs” yet, she cut funds for children with special needs from Alaska’s budget. Palin also charged travel expenses, for her family to join her on the campaign trail, to Alaska’s state account. And, lest I forget, she violated AK’s ethical rules in “Troopergate”.
Yep, we really need an airhead as V.P., one heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Palin is so inept it’s difficult to understand how she got elected to governor of AK. Oh, I forgot, she supports the inhumane killing wolves from the air to increase the size of the caribou herd so AK’s subsistence hunters can kill them.
McCain’s first official decision in selecting Palin as his running mate was poor. Do we really want someone with his judgment sitting in the most powerful office in the free world? I don’t think so.
Vote for Barack Obama!

Posted by: Bill | October 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

He told his followers that it was harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.
The fact that Lazarus was a rich man and a friend of Jesus who he raised from the dead says that God doesn’t mind wealth. He does mind where wealth is in relation to your priorities.

Posted by: A Veteran | October 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Robert
When did we make this rule about hand over heart during the anthem, or else get kicked out of the country?
I wish people would tell me these things. Silly me, I thought the flag and the anthem stood for freedon of expression.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

fubomo
Too bad you don’t always get your way in a democracy.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

According to yahoo today an article says Biden had more negative press than Biden

Posted by: A Veteran | October 22, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

^5 Fubomo – tragically, you are 100% correct :-/

Posted by: diedre | October 22, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

“yet at all 3 debates he wore a flag pin and mccain didnt
but i dont expect consistency or research from you guys”
You might do a little research on your own, hotshot. McCain doesn’t NEED to prove his patriotism. I wonder if your research took you to the 57 states Obama claims to have visited. Would that have been the 57 states of the islamic conference? Hmmmmmm?

Posted by: Akela | October 22, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

And Obama has self-righteous wind coming out of his mouth.

Posted by: Kaylee | October 22, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

wow – so after your support for Bush, eloquence is somehow important to you?

Posted by: David Varet | October 22, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

THIS IS AMERICA – NOBODY NEEDS TO PROVE THEIR PATRIOTISM!!!!!

Posted by: David Varet | October 22, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Mike: I don’t know if they are the same group as Nevada – but this guy has been operating a long time. He was involved in Massachusetts in 2004 for doing the same thing, In addition, the California GOP has hired Norman Sproul, who has been investigated repeatedly for voter fraud. He creates umbrella groups for registration – but only allows employees to register Republicans. He has donated $30,000 to McCain. Calls for federal investigation have been blocked by the Bush Administration – which controls all election oversight.

Posted by: mara | October 22, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

This page is being overwhelmed by idiots.
It must be the Drudge Report link.

Posted by: Joe | October 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

When did we make this rule about hand over heart during the anthem, or else get kicked out of the country?
When you were in grade school and the pledsge of allefience was spoken what were you instructed to do. What were you instructed to do when the anthem was palyed. You don’t get arrested when you don’t, it isn’t a law. But it is a sign of respect and loyalty. You would think someone who is running for president would understand that.

Posted by: A Veteran | October 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

BB
Barack Obama is a United States Senator on the Foreign Relations committee. I think he has a few clearances already. LOL
Besides, the President automatically gets top clearance upon being elected. WE decide who that is going to be. It’s called democracy.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

A Veteran
I was told that standing respectfully for the anthem was sufficient. I guess I must not have been in the “real” America. LOL

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

even if obama was a closet terrorist – which he isnt
he could not even dream of doing as much harm to this country as Bush has done over the last 8 years

Posted by: David Varet | October 22, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

BILL: The Palins are going back to Alaska because they have to go back. They are both under INVESTIGATION and have to testify (or give depositions) on Friday. It’s not for R&R. It’s because of Sarah’s ehtics problems.

Posted by: mara | October 22, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

palin can’t name a supreme court case besides roe v wade – and has no idea what the constiution says about the role of the vp – and thinks that the pledge of allegience dates back to our founding fathers
but obama – a former constitutional professor at one of americas best universities – is the one you think doesn’t know our history?

Posted by: David Varet | October 22, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Hector – Isn’t it just toe-curling? It’s so strained and phony. He grew up in Indonesia, Hawaii, NY, and Chicago – where does that inane drawl come from? LOL

Posted by: diedre | October 22, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

dierde- If you mean “safe” by “total financial collaspe” and “3,000 US soldiers dead in Iraq” and “hated by the entire world”, then you have a point.

Posted by: inflammatorywrit | October 22, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

So, who is this Obama dude and why does he get to break Righteous Wind? Seems like Virginians would be smart enough to stand Upwind of that.

Posted by: Brock | October 22, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

Palin doesn’t even know what the VP does.

Posted by: d | October 22, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

BB: Oh spare me. I guarantee you that Obama has been checked out. If he were were some criminal, he wouldn’t have made it this far.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

he has? one of our embasies was recently bombed – which is us soil – and we have needlessly lost 4000+ soldiers – and not to mention the people who died in katrina
but i guess it depends what you mean by safe
and under your definition – clinton also kept us sfe after the first wtc bombing

Posted by: David Varet | October 22, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

A Veteran
He’s a Constitutional lawyer. He probably knows more about our history than you do.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

“he could not even dream of doing as much harm to this country as Bush has done over the last 8 years”
OK, David. And just what harm would that be? Or are you just going to recite some liberal talking points?

Posted by: Akela | October 22, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

hmm – about obama giving you free money
where did your multiple rebate checks from bush come from?

Posted by: David Varet | October 22, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

um – i think that fact that less than 10% of americans believe we are on the right track is enough evidence of the harm he has done

Posted by: David Varet | October 22, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Obama hit the point well!!! The comment by a Republican that there was a real Virginia and then there was another Virginia was a huge gaffe. People were upset in Virginia.
Obama hopes of the “morally right” kind of wind being behind them and pushing them on, to the ultimate win is nice!! I like this!!!
I hope he is elected President. We may all be witness to seeing one of the greatest Presidents ever.
Go Obama!!

Posted by: Sharonklim | October 22, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Ok, when Palin was asked what the VP does, it was “Questions from Third Graders,” so she answered it as if she were talking to a third-grader.
The only mistake she made was saying the VP can change policies. She is correct, the VP is in charge of the Senate. However, it can only vote in cases of ties.
Listen to that fool Olbermann and you would think Palin said the VP runs the Treasury or something

Posted by: Nobama | October 22, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Inflammatorywit-
No, I meant that you are still alive, as well are.
Total financial collapse? How absurd. Hated by the whole world? What else is new LOL – who cares?
And don’t even pretend that you care about our soldiers except as something you can use to try and bolster your position – the same twisted, malcontent moron libs that are so worried about our men and women would sit and skicker at a man in uniform who walked into their little neighborhood Starbucks.

Posted by: diedre | October 22, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Let me get this straight. If Joe Six-Pack and a bunch of old men go bonkers and start screaming for Sarah in her new thousand dollars suits and red high heels, that’s patriotism.
If crowds are inspired by Obama, and start shouting out for hope for our children and our country, that messianic behavior.
Baloney. You old boys are just spouting out the words that fat toad Mark Penn taught you to spout back in February. That was the meme of the month. The new meme of the month is that Obama is a socialist. Except there’s a couple problems here. First, he has been endorsed by Warren Buffett, the richest man in America – and not a big fan of socialism. Second, George Bush just nationalized our banks, our mortages and a part of our insurance systems. That IS socialism. And John McCain voted for him – just like he did on almost every other vote. George Bush just presided over the largest transfer of capital from private to public hands in the history of the United States. What a commie.

Posted by: Mara | October 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

A Veteran “He’s a Constitutional lawyer. He probably knows more about our history than you do.”
yes he knows all about the history of the 57 states how can anyone possible question the Messiah’s wisdom?

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Re: “My income will then be low enough that Obama will give me free money he has seized from other Americans.”
Bush took 1 TRILLION dollars and gave it to Wall St. And it still hasn’t helped the stock market. Why aren’t
you mad about that?
Stop blaming Obama for the mess Bush has made!

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Fact, people who earn money will always be smarter then those people who are looking to take money from them. Thus, people are going to shelter money such that President Hussein can not “spread the wealth”.

Posted by: Steven F | October 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

“um – i think that fact that less than 10% of americans believe we are on the right track is enough evidence of the harm he has done”
Care to cite your source, David? Or do you actually KNOW that many people? Um.

Posted by: Akela | October 22, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

Okay… you libs can have your website back. All of us Republicans have to go get some rest because we have jobs to go to in the morning…unlike you who are ecstatic that your messiah might be elected and give you more of our money.

Posted by: Mark | October 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Doug – BAHAHAHA!! Very clever. It’s too close to the truth though, to laugh for very long :-/

Posted by: diedre | October 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Ok, when Palin was asked what the VP does, it was “Questions from Third Graders,” so she answered it as if she were talking to a third-grader.
She was talking to a reporter. She thinks she can help get things done in the Senate. And this isn’t the first time she has said this.

Posted by: d | October 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

“you guys make an awful big deal out of that attack on fake america”
What fake America would that be, David?

Posted by: Akela | October 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Righteous wind….? Give me a break. Look at the latest polls Barrack Hussein. Your socialist agenda won’t fly with voters on election day…trust me.

Posted by: charlie | October 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

dierde-
The attacks on 9/11 happened in my town, in my city, in my backyard. You all know nothing of it. You know nothing of what it was like to live in a literal war zone with the smell of dead people around you all day. I’m lucky to be alive, but George W. Bush had jack to do with it.
And yet, most New Yorkers want better things for this country. You obviously don’t. There’s the difference. We may be elitist snobs according to your myopic and ridiculously shallow world view, but we all lived through something that you know nothing about. Instead of choosing to live in fear, we choose to live with the promise of a better world. You are content to live in a world bloodlust and ignorance. I am truly sad for you.

Posted by: inflammatorywrit | October 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Akela
It has been a very well publicized poll for months (Gallup i think), and it has only gotten worse. It was down to 9% last time I heard. Defintely a record for the 30 years or so they have bene asking the question.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Hector: I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the Princess Sarah in her red high heels used illegal drugs too. And admitted it – in an interview with the Anchorage paper. Should we go looking for her drug dealer too?
It’s going to be pretty tough – Alaska is near the very top in drug use – particularly meth use.

Posted by: mara | October 22, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Re: “unlike you who are ecstatic that your messiah might be elected and give you more of our money.”
The Republican base doesn’t have any money. They sit at home all day getting programmed by Rush.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

and we have needlessly lost 4000+ soldiers
We lose and average of 2000 young people between the ages of 15 and 21 in driving accidents every year. Lets see, my math says thats about 10,000 since 2003. Should we stop them from driving??? Soldiers know the risk and accept it. That must be why 70% say McCain so they can stay and finish the job and not come home as cowards.

Posted by: A Veteran | October 22, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Mary, the only thing you prove is that you and liberals like you are the ones spewing hatred for anyone or anything that disagrees with your viewpoint.
Calling people names only shows how immature and shallow you truly are. Why can’t you talk about why you’re voting for Obama, instead of blindly bashing people that disagree with you?

Posted by: Jesse | October 22, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Mara – I don’t know what the meme of the month is this time around, but I do know that the word of the month is ‘meme’ LOL
Libs are loving that word lately LOL…spend alot of time over at DailyKos & Huffpo, do ya? LOLOL

Posted by: diedre | October 22, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

nyc and northern virginia – where all the liberals are
hey – it was McCain’s spokeperson who called northern virginia – where the pentagon is – “fake virginia”
and since new york is part of those elitist coasts that aren’t real america

Posted by: David Varet | October 22, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

So did anyone ever articulate a response to why Obama doesn’t respect our National Anthem? And our flag? I think all we got was, it’s not the law, umm ,what happened to freedom of speech, let’s see. We got, all he has to do is stand, that is enough. A bunch of dates, I was told America was not very religeous at the time we fought for our Independence. Oh the one we didn’t get was, He resents what America stands for. Or He feels guilty for what we have as a country. Maybe He just isn’t PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN! But that is just a country and western song, doesn’t really mean anything. OOPS….All those sound like a SOCIALIST!!!

Posted by: Robert | October 22, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Republicans called FDR a Socialist too.

Posted by: Jules | October 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Jock. It sounds to me like you’re referring to the popularity of congress rather than less then 10% of the population thinks we are going in the right direction. In THAT I would agree.

Posted by: Akela | October 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

“Republicans called FDR a Socialist too.”
That’s because he was.

Posted by: Akela | October 22, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

goodbyeUSA
OMG!! He made a booboo! String him up and shoot him! Or send him to Czechoslovakia, which McCain thinks still exists.
OR, we could talk about issues that are actually important to the future of our country.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

Isn’t Virginia the place where the comet hit in Deep Impact? Somehow seems appropriate.

Posted by: Patrick | October 22, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Republican economic policies=Great Depression.
You guys will be unemployed and out on the street and you still won’t get it. You’ll be screaming for capital gains tax cuts like the robots that you are. You guys don’t even know what capital gains are.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 22, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Sorry to shake your pat world view, d, but I have never voted for a Bush in my life.
America has been envied, hated, criticized, etc etc around the world since the dawn of our republic.
I say again – who cares?
We should act in our own self-interest, guided by the founding principles and our own moral compass, and let the chips fall where they may.
What will be will be.

Posted by: diedre | October 22, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

“…a righteous wind at our backs” ? Oh, so that’s where the foul stench blowing in our faces for the past six months has been coming from.

Posted by: MDWhite | October 22, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.”
Righteous? All sorts of crusades were started over righteousness: Righteous cause, righteous people, righteous ideas. I admire his confidence, but his choice of word are either poor, or his Freudian slip is showing.

Posted by: Mike | October 22, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Akela
The “right direction or wrong direction” has been a standard poll question for decades, and is usually considered a reliable indicator of the mood of the electorate.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Some of you are just down right mean.
I vote for change!

Posted by: Sophia Beck | October 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

More like a mighty wind.

Posted by: Cynthia | October 22, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Blue
I was trying to tell them last spring that they were wasting all of their best lies, and by November people would be pretty sick of it.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 22, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

hotnspicy, please explain to all of us how raising capital gains taxes is going to grow the economy. And don’t use the stupid reason that Bill Clinton did it. Bill Clinton benefited from the dot com bubble, that burst just as he was leaving office. The dot com bubble was created by Greenspan’s credit bubble. If the fed did not flood the economy with cheap money, we would not have had the dot com bubble and the subsequent crash. Clinton got lucky, but his tax increases did not grow the economy–cheap credit did. Tell me how a 50% death tax will grow the economy. Tell me how raising the taxes on dividends will stimulate growth. I’m listening oh wise Obamabot.

Posted by: Hector | October 22, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

the only description for Obama that includes the word ‘righteous’ in it: self-righteous arrogance.

Posted by: randy | October 22, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

I am so happy that McCain will win this election.

Posted by: Babs | October 22, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Yeah, B.O., I can see why you would see the mainstream media as “righteous,” though they are anything but.

Posted by: Thank God for Karma | October 22, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

don’t worry, the republicans will win. god is on their side – sarah palin said so, just today! (jeez, what a freak!)
doug s., oh lord, please save us from your followers…

Posted by: doug s. | October 22, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

John “McGrumpy” and Sarah the “loudmouthed Dingbat,” who cannot figure out what the job of the Vice President is, are the dregs of the Republican party. Indeed, “McGrumpy” is a shell of his former self. History will note that one of “McGrumpy’s” major strategic campaign errors was not picking Mitt Romney as his VP.

Posted by: Bruce josloff | October 22, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

He’s starting to believe the media hype………………but he is benefitting from a disappointing GOP show.
I have voted Republican since I turned old enough to vote in 1980 and I am giving up. Not going to the other side mind you, but if Obama would not have promised higher taxes I would have been tempted.
We really s–k at public relations. Always have. We project ourselves just as privileged, square, white guys and just can’t get up to speed on the way the country is heading. Conservatism can thrive in our brave new world order.
Sarah Palin came out with a huge splash and was very successful because she seemed regular while being capable.
Her success should be seriously considered as a wake up call for the GOP strategic planning committees as a possible model to work from. The ridiculously left biased media took note and did a great job of unfairly discrediting her.
The GOP needs a public relations makeover.

Posted by: Just a Normal Florida Guy | October 22, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

Obama is the most unfit candidate in the history of the US. It’s a mystery how he’s even gotten this far. With his Marxist associates and pro-abortion extremism (including the promotion of infanticide) he can’t even answer a question as to when life begins. “It’s above my pay grade.” (Guess that follows his non-commital practice of voting “present” 130 times.) Since human life has no value to him, always be sure to watch your back whenever he’s around. He can’t be trusted.
On the brighter side, however, never lose faith. Joy will soon replace the current gloom when President John McCain and Vice President Palin, the only two adults in this race, take office. And they will. Guaranteed. In God We Trust. Amen.

Posted by: bythesea | October 22, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee (Democrat, Tex.) while Sheila Jackson was visiting Mars Pathfinder Mission Control Center, she asked whether the Pathfinder had taken pictures of the American flag planted by Neil Armstrong in 1969. Sheila Jackson Lee, who represents Houston,Texas is a member of the House Science Committee’s space subcommittee. Also Houston,Texas is home of NASA. If you listen to these the Democrats they will turn you into a mindless idiot robot : http://www.seds.org/spaceviews/970915/cap.html

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 22, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Obamaville: 79 degrees, sunny, righteous winds E-NE 20 mph.

Posted by: Storm Fields | October 22, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

You people have too much time and are way too impressed with yourselves. I ask you one question: How could any intelligent person vote REPUBLICAN after what their man and their policies, both economic and foreign, have done to our nation? You people should be ashamed of yourselves. I blame YOU for putting W. into office and letting the Republicans get us in this mess.

Posted by: Johnnykav | October 22, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

johnnykav…let me remind you that Democrats control both the House and Senate. If they were so opposed to W’s policies then they would cut off the purse strings. By the way I STILL HAVEN’T RECEIVED THE LIST.

Posted by: charlie | October 22, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Obama is the most unfit candidate in the history of the US. It’s a mystery how he’s even gotten this far. With his Marxist associates and pro-abortion extremism (including the promotion of infanticide) he can’t even answer a question as to when life begins. “It’s above my pay grade.” (Guess that follows his non-commital practice of voting “present” 130 times.) Since human life has no value to him, always be sure to watch your back whenever he’s around. He can’t be trusted.
On the brighter side, however, joy will soon replace the current gloom when President John McCain and Vice President Palin, the only two adults in this race, take office. And they will. Guaranteed.

Posted by: bythesea | October 22, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

theSwimmah….Sasquatch, ripping off tree bark (immediate mental image) LOL!!
I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time…thanks for a good one….still wiping eyes…

Posted by: St. Lucie | October 22, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Charlie “Can any Democrat on this site list 5 positive changes enacted in the US Senate by B. Hussein? Its been over 15 minutes and I haven’t seen 1 change listed.”
Charlie is not getting any takers for his question. Doesn’t Charlie know we do not question the Messiah’s wisdom we merely worship him? Come on Charlie check your brain at the door and join in the worshipfest it feels so good.

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 22, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

McCain recently referred to “My Fellow Prisoners” at a rally. I think this is quite revealing. McCain is still fighting the Vietnam war and trying to redeem himself in some way. This is quite dangerous. The old bugger should hang it up and retreat to his Budweiser Estates with his aging Beauty Stepford Wife.

Posted by: Sterling Chan | October 22, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Johnnykav, This election is like deciding whether to buy a shiny new car (that has never been tested, driven, or proven durable) or fixing up the car you’ve been driving for many years. No question, the last couple of mechanics who worked on it have screwed it up…but it still runs and in the right hands, could run even better. Remember that last time when we went with the shiny new Jimmy Carter Model. Should have stuck with the Ford!

Posted by: Brent W | October 22, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

How about 1 change? At least throw me a bone!

Posted by: charlie | October 22, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

I think the silence speaks for itself. No one no matter how vitriolic in their responses toward Mccain has taken the opportunity to answer the big question. If Obama can’t bring change in the Senate how can he bring change as president? Don’t vote for B.

Posted by: charlie | October 22, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

Wow! The words paranoid, delusional, and gullible come to mind. Were talking about reality here,folks. Guessing some of of you might be surprised to find there is plenty of evidence that Obama IS NOT muslum (he’s Christian), Obama is in fact a US citizen (and if you did your research you would learn this), there is no evidence that he is a terrorist, nor is there any evidence that he “palled around with terrorists”, and it may surprise you to hear, but several republicans have also been associated with Bill Ayers.
Oh yeah, dinosaurs coexisted with humans, global warming is a hoax, and evolution is a myth perpetuated by liberals who want to steal your soles. Evidence, data, reality? Who the hell needs that anyway. I say screw reality, lets just all get along and pretend it doesn’t exist, shall we.

Posted by: Tony | October 22, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

OK Tony…maybe you are the only Democrat that can list changes Barack Hussein has enacted in the Senate. I have waited 45 minutes and I have yet to see 1 example of change.

Posted by: charlie | October 22, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

The sad fact of the entire matter is that our country is split right down the middle. The chasm is almost to the point of being irreconcilable. Two separate Americas with opposing principles and values, unable or unwilling to unite around a common purpose. A cancer eating away at the soul of America, the antidote of which will not be found in either presidential candidate. Truly, the American Century is finished.

Posted by: Larry | October 22, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Obama’s grandmother was hospitalized late last week (why didn’t he rush to her side over the weekend?). A spokesman announced she was “seriously ill” on Monday (why didn’t he rush to her side on Monday?), and Obama would suspend his campaign this Thursday and Friday to visit her (dragging this out for the entire week to generate sympathy). Reminds of how N. Pelosi dragged out writing (took three weeks) the Relief Bill and delayed implementing it to keep the market down (The British wrote AND implemented their Relief Bill in ONE week). For the first time in the history of the Harvard Law Review, the editor, Obama, did not published a single article in that august publication while serving in that position or at any other time. While teaching constitutional law at the U. of Chicago, Obama never published a single academic article (whatever happened to ‘publish or perish?’). He is promising to solve all the world’s problems, yet he has never demonstrated by his actions a proclivity for doing so (heck, he can’t even reach across the aisle in his own country, voting 96% with a Dem Congress that has the lowest approval rating in American political history). And this is just the tip of the iceburg.

Posted by: Laura | October 23, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

This is it!!! I haven’t seen one example of change brought forth by B. actions in the Senate. Am I shocked? No. Am I appalled? No. I am simply dumbfounded as to why the American public is so compelled to support a “smooth talking” inexperienced candidate for president. .

Posted by: charlie | October 23, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

The only wind Obama’s going to feel is his ego deflating when McCain defeats him November 4th.

Posted by: Michigal | October 23, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

The only wind the One is feeling is the hot wind coming from Joe Biden’s mouth

Posted by: Diane Milwaukee, WI | October 23, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Barry Soetoro, we hardly know ye.

Posted by: St. Lucie | October 23, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Hello to the individual inquiring about Obama’s activities in the Senate.
The following is a partial list of bills that he has introduced. He has also introduce bills related to health care, energy and education.
On Iran: S.J.RES.23 : A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.
On voting Passed out of Committee and now on the Senate Calendar for Feb. 22, 2008
S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections
On veterans and military personnel: S.1084 : A bill to provide housing assistance for very low-income veterans;
On global warmingS.1324 : A bill to amend the Clean Air Act to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from transportation fuel sold in the United States;S.1389 : A bill to authorize the National Science Foundation to establish a Climate Change Education Program;
S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy. (This last one passed both the House and the Senate as part of the budget bill.)
On campaign finance and lobbyists S.2030 : A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require reporting relating to bundled contributions made by persons other than registered lobbyists; and S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
On Blackwater S.2044 : A bill to provide procedures for the proper classification of employees and independent contractors, and for other purposes, and S.2147 : A bill to require accountability for contractors and contract personnel under Federal contracts, and for other purposes.
On global poverty S.2433 : A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.
On global nuclear proliferation S.1977 : A bill to provide for sustained United States leadership in a cooperative global effort to prevent nuclear terrorism, reduce global nuclear arsenals, stop the spread of nuclear weapons and related material and technology, and support the responsible and peaceful use of nuclear technology.

Posted by: Joel | October 23, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

After all B.O also recently said it’s all about J O B S. And we all know we’ve already had enough of JO’s BS. Where the heck is JO these days- maybe hanging out in one of the unfound 57 states B.O’s been visiting

Posted by: Indypendent1 | October 23, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

It’s true, Republicans should be ashamed. What has Bush done in the last 8 years…
…besides preventing another 9/11?
…besides convincing N.Korea to disassemble the nuke plant Clinton gave them?
… besides averting a nuclear showdown with Iran,
….besides giving more money to fight AIDS around the world than all other presidents combined?
Big deal! Who cares? I’m more concerned about my 401K and how it lost value because of Bush.
Oh, wait, he warned us about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, didn’t he? He warned Barney Frank to keep those two institutions in check, didn’t he?
So what? Let’s blame him anyway, everyone else does. It just feels good to blame Bush and Republicans for all our troubles. It’s a heck of a lot easier than finding solutions and heaven forbid, actually suggesting any on the record!!
Obama/Biden 08! Because America deserves it!

Posted by: schizoidman | October 23, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

A “rightous wind at our back?” Speak to those sinners, Obama! Lead them back onto the path of righteousness! Lawd, Lawd, Lawd!!!

Posted by: Bill | October 23, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

I remember reading All the President’s Men and thinking: That’s journalism. You do what it takes to get the truth and you lay it before the public, because the public has a right to know.
This housing crisis didn’t come out of nowhere. It was not a vague emanation of the evil Bush administration.
It was a direct result of the political decision, back in the late 1990s, to loosen the rules of lending so that home loans would be more accessible to poor people. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to approve risky loans.
What is a risky loan? It’s a loan that the recipient is likely not to be able to repay.
The goal of this rule change was to help the poor — which especially would help members of minority groups. But how does it help these people to give them a loan that they can’t repay? They get into a house, yes, but when they can’t make the payments, they lose the house — along with their credit rating.
They end up worse off than before.
This was completely foreseeable and in fact many people did foresee it. One political party, in Congress and in the executive branch, tried repeatedly to tighten up the rules. The other party blocked every such attempt and tried to loosen them.
Furthermore, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were making political contributions to the very members of Congress who were allowing them to make irresponsible loans. (Though why quasi-federal agencies were allowed to do so baffles me. It’s as if the Pentagon were allowed to contribute to the political campaigns of Congressmen who support increasing their budget.)
Isn’t there a story here? Doesn’t journalism require that you who produce our daily paper tell the truth about who brought us to a position where the only way to keep confidence in our economy was a $700 billion bailout? Aren’t you supposed to follow the money and see which politicians were benefitting personally from the deregulation of mortgage lending?
I have no doubt that if these facts had pointed to the Republican Party or to John McCain as the guilty parties, you would be treating it as a vast scandal. “Housing-gate,” no doubt. Or “Fannie-gate.”
Instead, it was Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, both Democrats, who denied that there were any problems, who refused Bush administration requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and who were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting subprime mortgage loans almost up to the minute they failed.
As Thomas Sowell points out in a TownHall.com essay entitled Do Facts Matter? “Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush’s Secretary of the Treasury.”
These are facts. This financial crisis was completely preventable. The party that blocked any attempt to prevent it was … the Democratic Party. The party that tried to prevent it was … the Republican Party.
Yet when Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration and Republican deregulation of causing the crisis, you in the press did not hold her to account for her lie. Instead, you criticized Republicans who took offense at this lie and refused to vote for the bailout!
What? It’s not the liar, but the victims of the lie who are to blame?
Now let’s follow the money … right to the presidential candidate who is the number-two recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.
And after Freddie Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae who made $90 million while running it into the ground, was fired for his incompetence, one presidential candidate’s campaign actually consulted him for advice on housing.
If that presidential candidate had been John McCain, you would have called it a major scandal and we would be getting stories in your paper every day about how incompetent and corrupt he was.
But instead, that candidate was Barack Obama, and so you have buried this story, and when the McCain campaign dared to call Raines an “adviser” to the Obama campaign — because that campaign had sought his advice — you actually let Obama’s people get away with accusing McCain of lying, merely because Raines wasn’t listed as an official adviser to the Obama campaign.
You would never tolerate such weasely nit-picking from a Republican.
If you who produce our local daily paper actually had any principles, you would be pounding this story, because the prosperity of all Americans was put at risk by the foolish, short-sighted, politically selfish, and possibly corrupt actions of leading Democrats, including Obama.
If you who produce our local daily paper had any personal honor, you would find it unbearable to let the American people believe that somehow Republicans were to blame for this crisis.
There are precedents. Even though President Bush and his administration never said that Iraq sponsored or was linked to 9/11, you could not stand the fact that Americans had that misapprehension — so you pounded us with the fact that there was no such link. (Along the way, you created the false impression that Bush had lied to them and said that there was a connection.)
If you had any principles, then surely right now, when the American people are set to blame President Bush and John McCain for a crisis they tried to prevent, and are actually shifting to approve of Barack Obama because of a crisis he helped cause, you would be laboring at least as hard to correct that false impression.
Your job, as journalists, is to tell the truth. That’s what you claim you do, when you accept people’s money to buy or subscribe to your paper.
But right now, you are consenting to or actively promoting a big fat lie — that the housing crisis should somehow be blamed on Bush, McCain, and the Republicans. You have trained the American people to blame everything bad — even bad weather — on Bush, and they are responding as you have taught them to.
If you had any personal honor, each reporter and editor would be insisting on telling the truth — even if it hurts the election chances of your favorite candidate.
Because that’s what honorable people do. Honest people tell the truth even when they don’t like the probable consequences. That’s what honesty means. That’s how trust is earned.
Barack Obama is just another politician, and not a very wise one. He has revealed his ignorance and naivete time after time — and you have swept it under the rug, treated it as nothing.
Meanwhile, you have participated in the borking of Sarah Palin, reporting savage attacks on her for the pregnancy of her unmarried daughter — while you ignored the story of John Edwards’s own adultery for many months.
So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?
Is getting people to vote for Barack Obama so important that you will throw away everything that journalism is supposed to stand for?
You might want to remember the way the National Organization of Women threw away their integrity by supporting Bill Clinton despite his well-known pattern of sexual exploitation of powerless women. Who listens to NOW anymore? We know they stand for nothing; they have no principles.
That’s where you are right now.
It’s not too late. You know that if the situation were reversed, and the truth would damage McCain and help Obama, you would be moving heaven and earth to get the true story out there.
If you want to redeem your honor, you will swallow hard and make a list of all the stories you would print if it were McCain who had been getting money from Fannie Mae, McCain whose campaign had consulted with its discredited former CEO, McCain who had voted against tightening its lending practices.
Then you will print them, even though every one of those true stories will point the finger of blame at the reckless Democratic Party, which put our nation’s prosperity at risk so they could feel good about helping the poor, and lay a fair share of the blame at Obama’s door.
You will also tell the truth about John McCain: that he tried, as a Senator, to do what it took to prevent this crisis. You will tell the truth about President Bush: that his administration tried more than once to get Congress to regulate lending in a responsible way.
This was a Congress-caused crisis, beginning during the Clinton administration, with Democrats leading the way into the crisis and blocking every effort to get out of it in a timely fashion.
If you at our local daily newspaper continue to let Americans believe –and vote as if — President Bush and the Republicans caused the crisis, then you are joining in that lie.
If you do not tell the truth about the Democrats — including Barack Obama — and do so with the same energy you would use if the miscreants were Republicans — then you are not journalists by any standard.
You’re just the public relations machine of the Democratic Party, and it’s time you were all fired and real journalists brought in, so that we can actually have a daily newspaper in our city.

Posted by: oi812 | October 23, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Wow! It took an entire hour for someone to finally go to B. Hussein’s website and cherrypick votes. What about all of those votes that were simply cast as present?

Posted by: charlie | October 23, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

No..you need a simple majority to control..only 3/5 to end a filibuster..read your civics book

Posted by: charlie | October 23, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

I’m 60 years old. The best day of my life is everyday. I’ll still enjoy teaching, watching the sun rise and set and loving my family. Even though Obama, the Grand Messiah of Marxism may win, my attitude towards life is not going to change. I won’t leave the county and I’ll savor the good things of each day.

Posted by: Life is good | October 23, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

To all you Obamabots posting Obama’s or partially posting Obama’s senate record:
Thank you for showing us proof of the most liberal record in the senate.

Posted by: Emily | October 23, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Mccain/Palin in a landslide
a reaganesque landslide
because most americans are not as stupid as the kenyan born b hussein obama thinks we are
followed by rioting in the streets all over america by our “urban” denizens
so yeah

Posted by: Ari Schneider | October 23, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

oh i hate to feed the beast, but all you dolts asking for “just one example” here’s just three of dozens of major, complex and important policies that Obama has led on in the US Senate.
- championed reforms for our veterans benefits so they get decent treatment after serving
- authored and fought for the first ever program for a web-based system to monitor and report on federal spending
- Fought for a program to monitor and destroy weapons of mass destruction that are in the hands of unstable nations
don’t make me get into his record in the state legislature on education, tax reform, ethics reform, campaign finance,welfare reform, predatory lending…
He’s has so much more policy experience and depth of knowledge on the range of issues a President needs to understand than McCain/Plain, and that’s before we talk about Biden’s record.
McCain/Palin is an insult. Palin is a joke. McCain was a GREAT statesman until this campaign. I do not who he is anymore. That makes me sad.

Posted by: Marie Z | October 23, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

emily,lifeisgod
we will all be ok if Obama is elected but its not over and the Obamabots are having panic attacks and sleeping 2 hrs a night and threaten to riot for days or break away from the union if Obama isnt elected its crazy stuff there has never been one ounce of dignity in the Democratic side that I have felt in years past thats why I voted for Mccain and didnt feel bad about it.. other people will do the same and the the ombamacrbabies can just leave the country or be drafted or something because thats their main fear… workign for the Obama camp is the only thing theyve done in their lives

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

As a conservative republican, I think Bush has been terribly polarizing. All the way around he has been a man without any value compass. In his bid for reelection, he kept Cheney on the ticket instead of somebody like Kay Hutchison, so the party was left with a huge leadership void. Bush pushed for illegal aliens, pushed to see our soldiers tried for killing the enemy, got us into a protracted war which is what democrats do.. Woodrow Wilson WWI, FDR WWII, Truman Korea, JFK and LBJ Vietnam. Bush spent like a democrat with no compunction and no value. He cut himself off from conservatives and listen to nobody. He was bad for our country and horrible for our party. But now comes obama who is hated by about 50% of the population. He is a black muslim, untrusted, and perhaps even more polarizing than Bush. Sometimes the country needs bland for a while. Nixon was polarizing and Ford was bland but the country healed. The democrats tried to run the two most polarizing people in America… hillary clinton and Obama. Instead of running somebody bland, they walk out those two clowns that cause visceral hatred amongst a large percentage of voters. obama is disgusting. He is a pot smokin crack using loser. I am my friends hate the guy. He is just so polarizing and so arrogant. At least with McCain, while he may be bland and sort of tired, he is not hated. That is the difference of the two. McCain is a liberal just like Obama. They both want mexicans to swarm in the country. But of the two, I really think another four years of polarization will result in serious damage to the country. The rhetoric of democrats such as barny frank is feeding on the polarization. This is a mental illness at its worst. Attacking our country and businesses is the worst thing that can happen in a recession. Taxing business will reduce jobs in a recession. Taxing oil will just raise the price. But Americans are not happy with Bush and that espeically includes conservative republicans but at least in our anger and disgust we have the brains not to try to bring in another polarizing entity into the white house. For conservatives it is bad enough having McCain who is a liberal but we will vote against obama because he is toxic to America and sometimes voters have to vote for somebody quite flawed just to do what is best for the country. Voting for obama is an exercise in spawning hatred and polarization that this country cannot take. Bush created an environment of frustration and anger, obama is even more polarizing than Bush; the country is already fatigued.

Posted by: Lordrobot | October 23, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

Sterling Chan- “McCain recently referred to “My Fellow Prisoners” at a rally. I think this is quite revealing.”
Oh no that will get the people in the 57 states upset to hear this and McCain really just doesn’t get it does he but Obama does it is all about a 3 letter word J-O-B-S.

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 23, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

indypendant1
yea I hope other Independants rise up and make a statement this kind of subverstion of democracy cant be tolerated though under Donna braziles orders and interpretation and bribes she says its not against the constitution for the Democratic party to do what they want

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Do we really want 3 socialist (Reid, Palosi, and Obama) stooges making policy for this country. We won’t recover from this left wing recession until these 2 (or God forbid) 3 putz’s are booted out of office!

Posted by: Terry | October 23, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Wait, did anyone bother to ask him what he ate for lunch that gave him that righteous wind at his back?

Posted by: Indypendent1 | October 23, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

goodbyeusa
yea and the “57 states” thing was a Freudian slip by Obama in the primaries… he was thinking of 57 Islamic states… coming to a town near your soon is a caliphate

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Lordrobot thank you for an excellent post.

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 23, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Voting Obama and proud of it!

Posted by: WhereIsTheFood | October 23, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

righteous…gee…the man is going to take religion right out of the country…it will be government telling us what to do, what to think, what to say because of all the entitlements the public will be given by the gracious hand of the government…SOCIALIST government…it has been breeding in the liberal Democratic party for years and is coming to a head…sorry the righteous wind of God is the only righteous there is…God has a plan and if Obama is president well, those who know God know the rest of the story and will survive the test.

Posted by: pat | October 23, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

The racism, xenophobia and ignorance of these haters of Obama is disgusting and, quite frankly, scary. I hope these so-called patriots will respect the outcome of the election. Unfortunately, I’m not hopeful about that.

Posted by: AG | October 23, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Terry
yea its their choice not riot when Obama is defeated or face impeachment and the first ever removal of a president from office for election fraud and other stuff … that is much more serious that Clintons lying about sex… some people who have kids that were growing up in the late 90s have vendettas against the Clintons because of that… that is way beyond silly!

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Charlie, sorry about my misspelling. I hope you feel better that you caught that. I hope you feel really smart now. I spelled soul wrong too, kudos to you.
Larry, I can only hope that your wrong (but don’t know). Obama is not perfect (what human is), but I see a far less divisive tone in Obama/Biden than McCain/Palin. We won’t know truly if this man can unite unless he is elected and tested. Bush called himself a uniter, and he was far from it. He divided even the Republican party.
Charlie, what makes you think I am a Democrat. I’m going to concede to you that you are correct, but I am also going to tell you that I have several Republican friends who feel the same as I do. Friends who have voted Republican most of their life and are now voting democrat.
Charlie, I don’t have the time to dig and find the specific answer to your question. However, this is something I put together some time ago. You are welcome to dig yourself and find the answer to your question. I really think he can handle it. I would propose that his running mate, Joe Biden, is more ready for the job than Obama is. However, politics is not about what is perfect, it is about what is possible, and it turned out that Obama was more electable.
The following is for your reading pleasure. Again, I think this man can handle the job. But only time will tell.
He has 20 years of experience in public service, education, and civil rights law. The bulk of his professional experience is in either elected office or working for a nonprofit, a university or a civil rights law firm.
Three years: Worked as a Community organizer in Chicago before going to Harvard Law School.
Five Years: After graduating from Harvard in 1991, he ran Illinois Project Vote, a voter registration drive, for much of 1992, and then accepted a position with the Chicago firm Miner, Barnhill & Galland. The firm specialized in political and civil rights work and neighborhood economic development work. He also began teaching at the University of Chicago in 1993. He was elected to the Illinois state Senate in 1996 and took office in 1997, so his full-time work after law school comprises five years.
Eight years: Was an Illinois State senator (population of 210,000 when he represented it.). During this time he was also a senior lecturer in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School.
Four Years: US Illinois Senator (as of January 2009)
That’s 20 years, and it does not take into account the experience that he has gained from running this looooong campaign for the Presidency. With a resume of this experience combined with exceptional accomplishments, I honestly think he can handle it!
Accomplishments:
• B.A in Political Science from Columbia University.
• As a community organizer, he directed the Developing Communities Project (DCP). While director he grew the DCP staff from 1 to 13 and their budget from 70,000 to 400,000.
• J.D., Magna cum laude, Harvard Law School
• First black president of the Harvard Law Review (for this accomplishment he received national attention and was recruited heavily by law firms around the country.)
• In 1992, he led a project in Chicago called Vote! Push. Over 600,000 new voter registrations resulted, a record.
• Illinois State Senate Record:
o Chairman, Health and Human Services Committee
o Spearheaded a successful bipartisan effort in Illinois to pass the broadest ethics-reform legislation in 25 years, and gained bipartisan support for his successful bills reforming death penalty interrogations and ending racial profiling by police. Worked with the Republican-led effort to reform welfare.
o Sponsored successful bills expanding tax credits and child-care subsidies for low-income working families, protecting overtime pay for workers, expanding health care for children, and providing job skills training for juveniles.
• United States Senate Record:
o Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
o Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs
o Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
o Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
o Member, Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs
o Shares responsibility for the bipartisan Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006, requiring full online disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds, and the bipartisan Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, deepening non-proliferation work with WMD and including surface-to-air missiles, land mines, and other weapons that may be used by terrorists. Also worked with Coburn to end the abuse of no-bid contracts in the wake of disasters.
• Author of two books: Dreams from my Father and The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream
Finally, let’s not forget that he was able to take on and beat the Clinton political machine. This is no small feat

Posted by: Tony | October 23, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

AG
your outcome isnt certain yet the polls are closing… and Chucky T said himself today that its the newspeoples perogative to show the electoral map how they see it not necessarily how it will go so Obama certainly wont get 3000 and maybe just barely 270

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Lordrobot, don’t blame Bush, it would have happened with any republican. If you haven’t noticed, to the democrats, every republican is stupid and an extremist. Don’t blame Bush, blame the haters in the media and on the left. It has been almost eight years of lie after lie about Bush. Eight years of hyperbole and conpiracy theories. Bush is an honest man with strong convictions. Place the blame in the right place, i.e. media and liberals.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Tony
fortunately… I as a democrat offset your vote and thats the way it will be… sure it will be tough for mccain to run the table to get past 270 but thats one thing that none…NONE of you obamabots are you have some utopian idea that isnt possible period and you will find that out

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

goodbyeusa
and tell everyone who are the employees or former employees of ACORN… ex-cons, and street gang members

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

It amazes me that all these “Christians” on this blog have so much hate and anger inside them. It is so concerning and sad that you really have that little intelligence. If you think that our country isn’t socialist now then think again..McCain and Palin will keep the rich richer and all the young brave men and woman in the Middle East will continue to come back home in Body Bags(for no reason) but at least it aint abortion, right y’all….You people make me laugh, you are hypocrits. McCain and Palin will ruin what is left of this country..but we don’t ahve to worry about that because Obama/Biden will win.

Posted by: janmon | October 23, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

“Angel whispering in my ear”????
Personally, I’m tired of Obama’s tirades…did he learn the revival preacher deliver from Wright?
If Bush had said, “I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here” the Communists would be going on and on about what a Moral Majority, dangerous, idiot he is.
Oh, wait, they do that no matter what the man says or does. But, with Obama Messiah, it’s quite OK. Weird.

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 23, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

The only “wind” I sense is the gas coming from his mouth. He is so arrogant! What happened to vanity?

Posted by: Whochebama | October 23, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

oi812
re: ‘Your job, as journalists, is to tell the truth’
I don’t want journalists telling the ‘truth’.
‘truth’ is negotiable and varies with one’s beliefs.
ie:- Religious ‘truth’ is very different from secular ‘truth’
give me accuracy…… you can keep the ‘truth’

Posted by: Blue | October 23, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

McCain is currently ahead in Fl and Ohio according to The Battleground Polls. Obama is putting massive spin on this election. He has millions of unreported foreign money from Muslim countries who hate us. He is buying up many of the polling places and trying to dispirit the Republicans with fake polling.
The only way he feels he can win is by buying people off. He can’t win on his own accord, or by being honest about his core values, which are communistic.

Posted by: WaynesWorld | October 23, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

janmon
the war was a problem it isnt now and I am the son of a retired minister and a Christian and Christians arent just people that subscribe to Black Liberation theology or some hippie revival thing please dont bring back the 60s with Obama thas what you are going to do and if he is elected he will be impeached withimn 6 months when the ACORN federal probe is released

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

Any conservative will divide the country some you simply can take a serious stand on any issue without it happening. Reagan was a good conservative but Bush even managed to divide & anger conservatives against him something Reagan never did. Bush has hurt his own party Reagan gave Bush Senior coattails but Bush II is giving McCain hell on earth!

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 23, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

Waynesworld
yep Ive seen it… I was in a Democratic office making calls for a local NC candidate and the Obamabots were complaining to the organizers(ahem) of PTSD and lack of sleep and what they should say to the media about a false story they were doing etc etc you say several thousand campaign workers for Obama in each state cant be wrong… oh yes they can be!

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

“we got”? please use proper english when serving the US, senator…

Posted by: ig farben | October 23, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

For all of you who doubt Obama. For all of you who do not think he has the experience or criticize his policies, I have two names for you: Colin Powell and Warren Buffet. No one in this country can criticize Powell’s patriotism and no one would even remotely think that Buffet was a Socialist. Both of these men have records that are beyond reproach and each have endorsed Obama. And yet the conservative right have such blinders on the are either unable or unwilling or both to recognize that two men way smarter than every one here have come out in support of Obama. Seriously, after the endorsement by these two, how can any of you radical conservatives continue to spout such gibberish. You may not want to vote for the man, but to continue with Ayers and ACORN and Socialism and experience. Cut the crap already. This guy has been vouched safe by two of he best that this great country of ours has to offer. Enough.

Posted by: Randy | October 23, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

First Obama tells people that “a light will come down and tell you to vote for Barack!” and then he tells us he feels “a righteous wind at our backs here”.
He sure talks like a preacher man. Not sure those religion hating liberals will keep going for Obama if he tries to rule like a preacher man.

Posted by: WaynesWorld | October 23, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

RANDY- I think you should read a little more about Buffett and his views on socializing certain services and the tax code.

Posted by: ig farben | October 23, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Oh, Tony, that resume looks so very impressive. Now, where are the published academic articles? Where are the transcripts? What did he accomplish in his IL district? Did his district get better or worse under his leadership? (We both know the answer to that). Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska has a higher security clearance than junior Senator Obama. As a matter of fact, Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska has a higher security clearance than Senator Biden.

Posted by: Kaylee | October 23, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Charlie Said: • In 1992, he led a project in Chicago called Vote! Push. Over 600,000 new voter registrations resulted, a record.
Which resulted in the election of Carol Mosely Brown and about 30% of those new voters were bogus. But Obama is an upright guy, right?
A man who could only vote PRESENT, not Yes Or NO …..90 times.
Oh Yeah, he is a real leader. Not.

Posted by: field | October 23, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

In 1998, Obama was one of only three senators to vote against a proposal making it a criminal offense for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang.

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 23, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Hi, Randy. Don’t you think Colin Powell, the man who made the case for WMD to the UN, may have been considered irrelevant inside the Beltway? This really wasn’t that big of a suprise. After all, he hinted at endorsing Obama in August and all but stumped for him in September. McCain has four former Secretary of States on his side. In addition, he has over 200, that’s right over 200, retired admirals and generals endorsing him.

Posted by: Emily | October 23, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

This just in, according the “the one”, lying, cheating, stealing, and fraud are now blessed by the righteous wind. Now go out there and make the world a better place.

Posted by: RS | October 23, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

Virginian Marine:
Two things Drudge readers need to know:
1) Obama and his supporters love America. It’s true. Don’t believe the smears.
2) Obama is going to win. Relax. It’s going to be okay.
—————————————
I suppose you are right about #2, mostly because it will just be so sad if you are wrong.
Here’s my real problem with the whole thing. When we are a Capitalist society everyone has the opportunity to be happy. Here is how: I as a Capitalist am happy because I do not have to succumb to Socialist ideals and laws. Socialists can be happy because there is absolutely nothing stopping them from sharing their wealth with the less fortunate. So that means Michael Moore, Warren Buffet and all those others who think we do not pay enough can just give and give until they got nothing left to give and that will make them happy as well as those that they give too. Everyone wins in that system. But under a Socialist system the Capitalists will never be happy only the Socialists. I do not want others money that I have not earned, nor do I want to give mine away other than through charitable contributions not associated with government (in other words as I see fit).
Now to me those two systems seem opposing. So since we currently fall under the Capitalist system then how could wanting to change to the polar opposite be considered an act of love. So I say to my wife, “Honey, I love you, but I want to change you 180 degrees from what you are today.” I doubt she would buy into the love angle so perhaps you can see why we question Progressive/Socialist love for this country. Seems like contradictory positions. Besides, not all of Obama’s supporters express love for this country.

Posted by: BaldEagle | October 23, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

Congratulation General Powell you are the new Benedict Arnold of America ! Powell has Jamaica voodoo values and nothing remotely similar to historic American values .
Obama is as good as a terrorist, he feels he comfortable in having terrorist and people who hate the USA as friends because he feels that way too and Powell is as good as someone who supports a terrorist, he’s a dirty traitor but I’m not surprised I never bought into Powell’s aurora of dignity and character . Condi Rice is also cut from the same cloth as Powell , she said Obama can keep country safe as President, how stupid can you get? Condi is an idiot.

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 23, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

Wayne’s World: Don’t you want to credit your sources? Before you came up with your little list on why you would vote democrat, it appeared on thisboardrocks, worldofwarcraft, politicalradar, freerepublic, purplepeoplevote, pocomotattler, realclearpolitics, thrfeed, and pajamasmedia. i’d guess it originated with god old michelle, but i’m not sure.
i am sure that, unlike other blogs, abc does not have censors who check for plagerism. you could try coming up with your own ideas, maybe.

Posted by: Mara | October 23, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Randy
Warren Buffett and Colin Powel;l cannot be standins for Obama he hast o make it on the merits himself … I dont care about Bush not beign qualified thats irrellevant and as far as stopping poltices like the war Obama voted with the President on fuing in every single final vote since running for president dont give me that you are not the only riteous people thats why people that dont support obama have license to think how they want this is the USA and the constitution will not be changed or subverted on Obamas behalf

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Why I am voting Democrat!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending MY MONEY than I would. I think when you spread the wealth around it is good for everybody! It’s Patriotic!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. All profits are evil and should be confiscated for Government Redistribution.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that MORE Government regulations and higher taxes on Business will stop Business from exporting their jobs to Countries with LESS Government regulations and lower taxes.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe terrorists should be allowed to have trials in American courts. And be able to subpoena top secret documents, soldiers, government officials, etc. to cross examine for their defense. They should have ACLU lawyers who can help intimidate Americans who serve on the juries!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe Gay Marriage should be the law of the land and will probably produce better children.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe English should not be the official language of the United States. I don’t mind pushing one for English when I use the phone.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe partial birth abortion is okay but water boarding a terrorist is disgusting.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe having a domestic terrorist like Bill Ayers as a close friend is a good thing. It allows for great relations with foreign terrorists.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe in a FREE government health care system. I believe doctors, nurses, hospitals, drug companies, etc. will gladly donate their time, products, services, facilities, etc. for FREE and that will be a better system.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe in and support trial lawyers, frivolous lawsuits and outrageous jury verdicts.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe 9/11 was an inside job to con the American people to go to war for oil.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe social security is solvent and that there is a social security lock box and I don’t believe social security is a Ponzi scheme.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe MOST AMERICANS are bitter and cling to their guns and religion. Let’s rid our country of guns and religion!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe illegal aliens deserve all the rights of ordinary Americans plus some additional rights Americans do not have.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe corporations should pay higher taxes! I believe higher taxes on business will make the price of their products and services LESS EXPENSIVE.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe groups like ACORN who register felons, drug addicts, wino’s, homeless drifters, illegal aliens, dead people, children, fictional Disney characters, etc. makes my vote count more.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe celebrating the winter solstice shows compassion for the small minority of people that do not celebrate Christmas.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe hard core criminal murders and rapists deserve life and that the innocent unborn deserve death. It’s a choice I can live with.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe Bush caused Hurricane Katrina and he blew-up the levies in the ninth ward of New Orleans.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that any one who is not partaking in one of the many wonderful government programs obviously has too much money and should pay higher taxes.
I’m voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq the terrorists will be happy and now think of us as good people.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe our soldiers are AIR RAIDING villages and killing innocent people.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe sex in the Oval Office with an intern is a private matter and that everybody lies under oath about sex.
I’m votin Demokrat becuse I wus edumkated at a publick sckrool. I lik da Natsionel Edukatshun Assoseeashun!
I’m voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as it does not offend people. Can’t we all just get along?
I’m voting Democrat because I believe oil companies’ profits are wrong. I believe higher taxes on oil companies will produce lower prices at the pump.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe we need to rid ourselves of dependency on foreign oil, BUT I AM AGAINST offshore drilling for oil and natural gas, drilling in Anwar, building nuclear power plants and clean coal technology.
And finally, I’m voting Democrat because I believe Reverend Wright when he said “GODDAMN AMERICA” and “OUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST”. Hey let’s make a comfortable nest for those chickens!
Why are you voting Democrat?

Posted by: WaynesWorld | October 23, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

Randy: Two words – useful idiots.
Look it up.

Posted by: diedre | October 23, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

Hey Waynesworld – I’m stealing that and emailing it far and wide!
You should do the same!

Posted by: diedre | October 23, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

If Obama read his Bible he would do him well to remember that Jesus said, “There is only ONE righteous”…and I don’t think he was prophesying about Obama…

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

Kaylee: Would you like to prove that Sarah Palin has higher security clearence than Joe Biden? Given that her husband was a member of a party which want to secede from the United States of America, and the Palins are still friends with these people (who live in Wasilla) I find it very difficult to believe that Sarah Palin would pass the requirements. She has friends who have publiclly stated that they have arsenals in thei basements.

Posted by: mara | October 23, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

I would if I could Mara, but I don’t know who wrote it but I really don’t care. It’s Mr. Everyman, as far as I am concerned. The essay speaks for millions and does it with humor, showcasing the ludicrousness of the liberal mindset.

Posted by: WaynesWorld | October 23, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

waynes world,
you don’t have to tell us why you are voting democrat,
we are just glad you are voting democrate.
wayneworld is voting democrat,
and the choir sang YEAH!

Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz! | October 23, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

Well when Obama wins and Biden’s prediction comes true, I hope all the dem organizers are willing to give up their sons and daughters because Obama has said he is bringing back the draft for BOTH sexes. Go look it up. Our military is stretched too thin don’t ya know. This is what happens when you let the media run down your President and then picks you another one.

Posted by: Dee | October 23, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

Be my guest, Diedre! That’s why I posted it to begin with. :)

Posted by: WaynesWorld | October 23, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

lol, obviously smile et al, doesn’t understand Satire. :)

Posted by: WaynesWorld | October 23, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

gpreiss
yea this messianic holier than though routine that is obviously meant for the faithful is getting old…

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

Attention freedom loving Americans be sure to switch from Google to some other search engine Google now is fully supporting the terrorist Obama Presidency.
Google chief executive Eric Schmidt plans to endorse Obama

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 23, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Dee
absolutely not only are we not leaving Iraq in a few months we arent leaving for several years if that and the younger people that signed up for the campaign because we would end all wars etc are just lazy at best Im beyond draft age but still I dont feel sorry for these kids that never had to do anything in their lives

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Now let’s see, which bothers me worse…20 years of Reverend Wright’s teaching instruction, supporting the socialist/genecidist Odinga’s cause in Kenya working to get him elected, Obama being ashamed of our flag, national anthem, arrogantly changing the presidential seal—possibly infringing on the copyrights…not falling far from the ACORN tree, being with Bill Ayers up until the 2000 years and saying he has disassociated himself from him…does anyone else sense that there is a lawyer involved in all of this?

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

oh we get your message, and we still expect to hold you at your word-to vote
democrat.
We understand it is much easier for you to write all of that stuff.
rather than to write anything about why you would vote for mccain. other than he was a POW (which we all salute him)
we just want to make sure you
waynesworld votes democrat

Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz! | October 23, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

waynesworld
yea the whole thing is the Obama camp and the obamabots dont have a sense of humor and the whole world isnt going to go off a cliff if Obama isnt elected they should stop acting like it would be and take some responsibility

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

I find it fascinating that Obama donated a full 1% of his 4 million in 2007 to charity. In 2001 he donated a full 0.5% of his salary in order to share his wealth with “the least of these”.
The “righteous wind” at Obama’s back is the gasps from people who can’t believe his hypocrisy or the thought that he might possible lead this nation… into oblivion.
Keep your change, I’d take Hillary over Obama.

Posted by: Abe Noxious | October 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

mara -”Given that her husband was a member of a party which want to secede from the United States of America”
we can let anybody secede from the union at least not till their child become gay then maybe will think about letting them quit.

Posted by: goodbyeUSA | October 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

LordRobot: I’m sorry, but you are wrong. If the John McCain of 2000 were running, I think he wold win, even with the horrific record of George Bush behind him. But that man started selling his soul a couple years ago to get elected and somewhere along the way he decided he didn’t care what he had to do to get elected. He is not widely loved. Obama’s favorability ratings are at 64%. If you watch Fox News 24/7 you may not believe that, but if you watch the number of conservatives who publically come out and state that they cannot abide McCain’s vicious and ruthless campaign, you won’t have any other choice but to believe it. Like Buckley said “I didn’t leave the Republicans, the Republicans left me.” There are going to be thousands if not millions of Republicans who are going to vote for a Democrat for the first time in their lives.

Posted by: mara | October 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Mara: Thank you, sweetheart, I would love to prove Sarah Palin has a higher security clearance than Biden (it’s rather easy). But, first, Mara I ask you to prove to America that Obama graduated from Columbia and Harvard. Show us the transcripts.

Posted by: Kaylee | October 23, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

And Mara: there use to be respectable Democrats too. Their party has LEFT the building.

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Kaylee
I think Biden slipped up and talked about a future test for Obama because the Bush admin briefed Biden/Obama/Mccain on a future Military campaign possibly in the middle east and Palin as a governor doesnt have security clearance… to all you amateurs out there that means Biden is saying once Obama is president when he is not president yet the whole yr from the obamabots has been presumptous

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

so… where are all you Republicans/Conservatives going to move to after Obama wins…..

Posted by: Blue | October 23, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

So which wealthy democrat will begin the redistribution of wealth by giving up their money first? Which hollywood star goes first? Which news media personality at MSNBC, NBC, CBS, or ABC goes first? How will MSNBC survive having to provide other commentaries when the fairness doctrine is voted for? They won’t be able to afford the bill. They’ll go out of business…

Posted by: ken | October 23, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Obama should thank ABC, NBC & GOOD OLD NBC

Posted by: Hal | October 23, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Here’s the skinny. Many of the obama supporters in this thread have been saying things like, winds of change, and obama for a better world of peace..
I’m voting for Mcain. Not because I don’t like change or because I’m against peace.
Obama is a Marxist. His first act might very well be to replace the oval office picture of Lincoln with one of Karl Marx. I’m not voting for an executive of the world.. I don’t want to be in your commune. America, her states, are governed on the premises of Individual liberty and responsibility. It’s doubtful that it’s true but lets assume the government could do a better job at providing health care.. I still don’t want it to.
There are plenty of nations out there that are socialist and they accept applications for membership.. you can renounce your US citizenship. Obama wants to incorporate us into an international government structure, I on the other hand don’t trust the government 2000m away in washington let alone some group of idiot beuracrats in brussles or where ever.
I’m an atheist so I don’t pray, but I hope like hell that Obama doesn’t win. Maybe we’ll have a shot at getting back to our principles of individualism.
You see while there are plenty of places to go to live under socialism, totalianarism, dictatorial authoritarianism, communism..etc.. there ARE NO OTHER PLACES WE CAN GO to maintain our liberty of here.
The change that obama brings is the condition that we have lived under for most of our existence on earth.. government oppression, by economic means in this instance, the real change is what our founders did some 200 years ago. For the first time in history a land where individual liberty was prized over the will of the governing was in place. This wind Obama speaks of from his back, is his hope to extinquish that spark.

Posted by: jd | October 23, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

If he wins, he will kill it for the Democrats to follow, to win this election is a no-win situation…and Biden has already predicted that…so I’m going to grab some popcorn (if it isn’t banned) and Obama bomb out

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

gpreiss
I agree the Democratic party is voting present but isnt there…and Donna Brazile who singlehandedly lost the election in 2000 for Gore used her Louisiana voodoo to screw things up

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Did you say Mara’s drinks were cut?

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

Give her some Russian Vodka…that’s what the socialist Russia uses to drown their sorrows…

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Blue
its not just republicans/conservatives that are still upset with Obama if you manage to stealt he election you you will pay for it in 4 yrs./.. slowly the media is lettign out that Axelrod and the Rove lookalike Robert Gibbs are copying Bush and rove verbatim in their campaigns its the truth and painfully obvious and it cant work 3 times in a row

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

JG:
You lost me.
Gov. Sarah Palin is the only Gov. in the U.S. to be routinely briefed on sensitive, international security matters as CIC of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard.
I, Kaylee, am a former USN officer. Any libs out there what to test that?

Posted by: Kaylee | October 23, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

Waynesworld, I wish you were working for the McCain campaign. You’ve done a better job of explaining the differences between the parties than the candidates.

Posted by: Hector | October 23, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

Kaylee
Im talking about what Biden said the other day about Obama being tested… Im trying to help the conservatives out here for once I agree with you so work with me

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

touche Kaylee…great input

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Hector
I couldve helped them out since I refused to do anything for Obama and I already voted for Mccain this election as the media has portrayed it cannot stand

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

Virginian Marine, you might be right about number 2, but you’re definitely wrong about number 1.

Posted by: Hector | October 23, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Why do you people continue to demonize the candidates?
I can somewhat understand demonizing McCain because he voted with Bush over 90% of the time and bragged about it, and Bush basically lined the pockets of his oil, banking and military/industrial complex buddies while embarassing the country internationally – and he totally BANKRUPTED the country with abusive spending of the public’s money.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

Mara
your just wrong and while your ultra left wing theories are good for you the mainstream democratic party and the people in that party namely those that agreed with the DLC that the Clintons created thign that that philosphy is the way to go not the one that got the dem party through the 60 and 70s and 80s etc there are real democrats that dont jsut want to tow the line and actually think about things.. your propaganda is really not helpfull because some people are immune to it!

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

Kaylee: Nice try at a bluff. I am not in the military, but I do have a brother-in-law who used to brief the Joint Chiefs of Staff, so we’ve discussed what Sarah Palin’s responsibilities and powers would be as Governor of Alaska in detail. And he says you are full of baloney. She would certainly not have top security clearance, particularly at a time when there is no direct conflict between Russia and the US and it will be very interesting to see if she ever gets it – with a husband who wanted Alaska to secede from the United States – and friends who still belong to and are leader of that party.
He also said that ANYONE who claimed to have special military knowledge was almost certainly violating their position and their statements were almost certainly either a) subject to dismissal or b) baloney.

Posted by: Mara | October 23, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

prefros
whats the difference between Bush abusing the public trust and Obama with questionable financing nazi pelosi said that Impeachment was off the table but with Obama if voter irregularities are proven byt he feds you can guarantee that Obama will be impeached and removed because thats a constitutional crime worse than what clinton was tried for

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

pefros, read oi810′s comment on where the economic woes came from…its a very enlightening introspective look and it makes great sense…I think he put it in at about 12:45

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

Mara, nobody believes you. You’re just spewing nonsense from the kos kooks and huffington compost.

Posted by: Hector | October 23, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

Obama feels a righteous wind, I see him blowing smoke up my ass.

Posted by: Newzaroo | October 23, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

Well, I guess I can understand why you’d demonize Palin for her lies about the Troopergate Report (“They completely cleared my of any abuse of power” – a direct lie), and her lies about the “Bridge to Nowhere” where she pretended she led the charge to stop the bridge and return the people’s hard-earned money – when really Congress stopped it and she then tagged along, and she kept all the money.
Lying directly about things so recent seems a bit demonic and stupid.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

I’m still waiting to see a signed and sealed authentic birth certificate

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

JG..
just so I get you correctly, Obama is going to ‘steal’ the election…….. and they’re copying Bush,
so your saying that Bush stole 2 elections?

Posted by: Blue | October 23, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Hector
Amen! yea the Huffington Post singlehandedly brought the other squeamish media along besides Chris Matthews who felt a chill goign up his leg in February! there is a conspiracy here

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

the comments have taken a life of there own

Posted by: Hal | October 23, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am

The Democrats will not have to steal this election. Most of the American public is disgusted at the result of 8 years of Republicans in the White House and 6 of those years holding congress and the senate.
It will be a landslide for the Democrats.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Blue
yep … you do the math.. the pelosis and reids of the world didnt stand up and make the votes be counted in those cycles and the bush people knew like in 2000 if there was a statewide recount of FL mandated then Gore wouldve won and they have been laughign at people liek you for years now and Obama was convinced that if Bush could do that he could like Bush copied Clintons demeanor and on and on

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

JD – I appreciate your thinking. Frankly I would not care if socialist or marxist won the election, I just hate the fact that they have to lie about their goals. The lies make me want to arrest them for treason because they are trying to gain office via trickery. That is just plain wrong. Call it what it is, and if everyone wants it – well have at it. Like Diedre – I am not sure that post isn’t a joke – it is certainly idiocy – but at least her position is clear and straightforward.

Posted by: Bob M Fort Myers | October 23, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

I second that emotion…WaynesWorld

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

I agree with you too Bob

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

prefros
you better hope against hope that Obama is up by 6 pts in every state on election night otherwise it will be a long night and could be thrown to the house and then you will be forced to accept palin as your vp because the senate picks the vp and thats theis senate not the one that is sworn in in Jan… Cheney casts the tie breaking vote numbskull… then ther is the thing of faithless electors after the election

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

The Democrats will not have to steal this election. Most of the American public is disgusted at the result of 8 years of Republicans in the White House and 6 of those years holding congress and the senate.
It will be a landslide for the Democrats.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

You folks crack me up. You worry about clothes, birth certificates, his mama, her mama.
Focus on what they are going to do for you. You got a kid in school, which one will help you out the most. You have a yacht, how will the taxes affect you? You are a teacher, how are the kids going to learn.
This is whats important. I get so tired of liberal and republican crap.
Focus, my friends..

Posted by: David | October 23, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

Mara:
Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska never said she had a higher security clearance than Biden. The Commanding Officer of the 49th Missille Battalion of the Alaska National Guard said she did. Also, he said Sarah Palin met with McCain in February of this year. No one knew about this until after McCain announced his pick for VP. The Commander of the only National Guard Unit in the U.S. to be on permanent active duty status in the U.S. said, on the record, that Gov. Sarah Palin is a person who can keep a secret.
Now, Mara, don’t evade the issues. Show us the transcripts. Heck, I’ll even settle for his thesis. Keep in mind, however, that I read Michelle Obama’s Princeton thesis before it was taken off the internet (my 15 year-old daughter writes better). And by the way, I worked in the Pentagon (like a lot of other promising junior female officers before I graduated from the Naval War College in Newport, RI.)

Posted by: Kaylee | October 23, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

I wonder if he meant to say “divine wind”?

Posted by: cudmaster | October 23, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

JG: Your comment makes absolutely no sense.
Goodbye: Your comment is a testament to what I’ve stated. The McCain supporters who are left are the type of hate-filled “Kill Him” “N—–” lynch mob types who led the police dogs at Selma. And your incredible statement not only is proof of what I said, it’s also proof that this site allows any form of attack. You do not scare me. Not a bit. I do not believe that your type will prevail. That’s why this country is not still where it was when the hate-filled mobs attacked people fighting for freedom in Selma or in Birmingham. You don’t scare me – but you are the reason why the McCain/Palin ticket is losing. The more vile your comments are, the more vile your candidate becomes.

Posted by: Mara | October 23, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

I don’t think it’s going to be a landslide for the Democrats. I think it will be much closer than anyone thinks and I also think we may not know the results the night of the election, especially in states where Acorn is being investigated.
I know in my neighborhood almost everyone has McCain / Palin signs up and one or two transplanted from NYers, of a more liberal bent, have Obama signs up. That’s subjective of course but it’s really amazing to see, considering all the hype we keep hearing about these polls.

Posted by: Jill | October 23, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

David
I tried to be objective and waited till before I voted and cast a ballot for Mcain because that is what my conscience tol me to do

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

David my friend, character is everything and my mama always told me not to be associated with people like Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright—to keep a valid driver’s license…those thing are quite a big focus in my life

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

Hey Waynesworld-
I took the liberty of adding a few more!(and I tweaked a couple – hope you don’t mind! LOL)I fwded it to 37 people – all you conservatives, it’s ccopy, paste, & email time!
I am voting Democrat because I believe our Founding Fathers, with all their talk about “being endowed by their Creator”, “Providence of Almighty God”, ” yada yada, were trying to force their religion on me, violating the separation of church and state!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe Reverend Wright when he said “GODD*MN AMERICA” and “OUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST”. The attacks on the U.S. on 9/11 were our own fault – as a matter of fact, I blame America first in just about everything, believe we are responsible for most of the ills in the world, and think we should grovel to the Europeans to get them to like us more. It’s important!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe we need to rid ourselves of dependency on foreign oil, BUT I AM AGAINST offshore drilling for oil and natural gas, drilling in Anwar, building nuclear power plants and clean coal technology because – well, just because!
I’m voting Democrat because I think that political TV shows and talk radio should be heavily regulated by the government, not by the free market. It’s only fair!
I’m voting Democrat because I don’t think people should try to better themselves by striving to build companies that make $250,000 a year. They are just greedy, and should be taxed 60%!!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe celebrating the winter solstice in schools, replacing Christmas songs with “winter songs” in Chorus, and not allowing Christmas decorations in the classroom shows compassion for the small minority of people that do not celebrate Christmas, and that their rights are more important than mine.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe San Francisco is a model American city.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe in a FREE government health care system. I believe doctors, nurses, hospitals, drug companies, etc. will gladly donate their time, products, services, facilities, etc. for FREE and that it will be a better system. I won’t mind a severe drop in quality, or waiting for months for an appointment.
I’m voting Democrat because I think Muslims should be given their own facilities to wash their feet in airports.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe having an unrepentent domestic terrorist like Bill Ayers as a friend & associate is a good thing. We need to understand things from the terrorists’ viewpoint!

Posted by: diedre | October 23, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Mara
it makes no sense to you because you arent in the loop as far as Civics etc and people that pontificate without knowing how elections come about are duly ridiculed

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am

And Mara, the key marks on cars with McCain Palin stickers, stealing McCain Palin signs…I guess that’s okay? Uh, calling McCain George Wallace when McCain has never in his life been cited for racist remarks…you’ve been under a rock…and by the way…Alabama will vote McCain…it’s already in the bag…is that because Alabama is a racist state…?

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

Well Jill we should place a bet.
Americans have had 8 years of Republicans in the White House and 6 of those years with Republicans holding the congress and the senate.
I believe the large majority have really had enough and will not give the Republicans another 8 years.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

Why I am voting Democrat…
It gives me an excuse to quit working. I’m closing up my shop and movie to the San Antonio area for my retirement. I like to work but under the circumstances, I think I would rather find someting else to do with my time.
I’ve worked hard my whole life and have provided well for my family and in doing so have helped a couple dozen or so other guys provide for their families over the years.
Consider the 5 jobs that are being lost as by my decisions, as the beginning of the Obama carnage.

Posted by: Lyle | October 23, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

Righteous Wind To Our Backs…what a line of crap! There is absolutely nothing “righteous” about Obama…

Posted by: TRS | October 23, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

kudos Diedre

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

gpreiss
thats precisely why I have part of a clinton and part of a mccain sticker on my car … the enforcers of the Obama campaign are big dumb thugs and dont have any conscience about peopels right to display and opposing view

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

Kaylee: I never said Governor Palin said she had top level security clearence. That was your statement. And your subsequent statements, if they are in fact true, are not statements that any high-ranking military person would ever make. Period. They would consider them a violation.
The rest of the comment doesn’t seem to have much to do with the first part. What in the world does a report Michelle Obama made when she was 22 have to do with security clearances? As opposed to a woman who is married to a man who belonged to a party that wanted to secede from the Union, AS AN ADULT IN HIS FORTIES, a party whose founder stated that he hated the United States with a passion, and still has friends who belong to that party. If your background is anywhere close to what you are stating – you know that man could not pass a security clearance. His friends have an arsenal in the basement. That’s not your common friend or neighbor.

Posted by: Mara | October 23, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

I got a chuckle out of that JG…you have some great posts by the way…

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

prefros
4 more years of the last 8 years is the dumbest campaign slogan on record… it only means something to you koolaid stained obamabots

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

I think I’ll go rent a car, put McCain / Palin stickers on it, go downtown and park it. Set up a camera and wait for the car to be destroyed. Then plaster the video all over the internet.

Posted by: George | October 23, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

One thing really bugs me about Obama and here it is.
We keep hearing that he has a brother in Kenya who lives on 12 dollars a year, and his shelter is a cardboard shack.
How can Obama, who is worth millions, allow his brother to be so destitute?
If he cannot properly take care of his own brother then how can he take care of a whole nation?
The Bible says if a man does not take care of his own family first then he is “worse than a pagan.”
Obama does nothing to help his brother. I think that is very telling about his character. Obama is very greedy. All this money has gone to his head and he seems very arrogant to me now, already planning a victory party and the like. Like those Greek columns he had dragged out of some Hollywood lot for his convention.
Obama has illusions of grandeur.
If he wins this thing he is going to be his own worst enemy and be a source of contempt for the whole nation within 6 months.
Then there will be no more blaming Bush. The Democrats will be totally responsible for the collapse of this country.

Posted by: TommyAtkins | October 23, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

Thanx Jpreiss – Waynesworld was my inspiration LOL

Posted by: diedre | October 23, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

gpreiss
thanks.. I normally shy away from public posting but if we dont say something the country will go over a cliff like lemmings or sheep or something

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

Jill most Americans remember that Bush and the Republicans basically destroyed the federal budget with gross, gross overspending, attacked a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 killing thousands and thousands of people .. . and enriched themselves doing it.
This Republican administration plunged the country further and further in debt.
People will not give them another 8 years. Time is up for the Republicans.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am

Jpreiss
its like Of Mice and Men the movie but more ironic and tragic!

Posted by: JG | October 23, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am

JG
wow, man, thanks for sharing that revealing analysis with us, I am shocked, Bush & Cheney and their whole administration are criminals and they stole 2 elections….. I guess they started a war too…. well, we can only hope the whole lot of em’ are arrested for crimes, misdemeanors and war crimes…..

Posted by: Blue | October 23, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

The parenthesis are my humble opinions the rest is verbatim—
> From Sunday’s Televised ‘Meet the Press’
> Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag.
> Obama Explains National Anthem Stance
> Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST,
> General Bill Ginn’
> USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain why he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
>
The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171… During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present
except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least,’Stand and Face It’
Senator Obama Live on Sunday states,
“As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides”, Obama said. “There are a lot of people in the world (will succumb to European and Islamic pressure and ideologies) to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression (is still blaming people who are living today, for racism that occurred in the past—which I had nothing to do with) . And the anthem itself conveys
a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the World To Sing.’ (belittles patriotism and is not proud of the victories of our servicemen who gave him the right by virtue of these battles so proudly won against people such as Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini–the Marxist with whom his policies reflect) the appearance of being If that were our anthem, then I might salute it. (Admits he doesn’t salute it as it is) We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love”.
“It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm America (we arm in defense, Senator Obama has the belief that if we let down our strength, the enemy with whom he wishes to go to bed with—such as Iran and extremist Islam—the very people who call us ‘infidels’ and believe in their hearts they will be rewarded by God for killing and raping us, will drop theirs) to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of warring people (I’m sorry Obama, we are not a nation of warring people, as a matter of fact, we sat around and waited until we were bombed by airplanes and terrorists before 911), should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our governments. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair injustice”.
“My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. (Do we need this in our leadership?) Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine. Of course now, I
have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country’s First Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America”.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This could possibly be our next President.
I, for one, am speechless.
Dale Lindsborg,
Washington Post

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

Interesting comment I found
THE TRUTH IS COMING OUT
BARRY’S FATHER TAUGHT HIM HOW TO DO A COMMUNIST TAKEOVE
THE FBI CALLED IT THE DAVIS PLAN
Barack Obama Groomed By New Party Radicals For Socialist Puppet Regime
The following is an article written as a comment by one of our visitors, Marion Valentine. Marion is a shining example of a very rare breed these days — a true American Patriot.
The Davis Plan and Connections to Obama
In 1963, while serving in Navy Intelligence (from 1958-1967), I read the FBI file on Frank Marshall Davis. He had outlined the Communist plan to take over America from within, by installing educators at all levels of our educational system, gaining control of the media, getting Liberal judges appointed, recruiting, training and backing people to be elected to public office.
I have researched every piece of legislation I can find that the Liberal Democrats have passed since the early sixties, and if you will research for yourself, you will find that they have been slowly moving this country towards Socialism.
When Obama announced he was running for President as an unknown with only one major speech at the DNC (that the DNC and MSM made so much fuss over), he aroused my old Intel suspicions. So I started researching.
I have not found any evidence to convince me he is a Muslim, but I did find his radical associations were unusual. I found that Frank Marshall Davis, who had fled from Chicago to Hawaii in 1958 because of the FBI investigation, met Obama in Hawaii when Obama was 12 years old, and was Obama’s mentor from then till Davis died in 1987.
Davis put Obama in touch with the Socialist Party in Chicago (called the New Party) which Ayers is also a member of, therefore the first “Planned” contact with Ayres. The New Party helped launch and finance Obama’s political Career. Obama…..selected, trained, groomed, and scripted to become the “puppet” leader of the United Socialist States of America.
Since I am in the 4th and final stage of congestive heart failure and will be lucky to live long enough to see the next President take office, why should this election matter to me? Why does Obama’s statement, that he wants a “National Civilian Security Force” as strong and as well-funded as our military (conjuring up images of the old-style USSR police state) matter to me?
IT’S SIMPLE… I LOVE AMERICA

Posted by: BB | October 23, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am

Holy crapp!
Could someone look at this and tell me what they make of it…I’m not legal expert and don’t want to get my hopes up. It’s the court filings for the case against Obama in PA. The court records are online. Here is an excerpt but the link will take you to the Pennsylvania Eastern District Court site.
I have to paraphrase because it’s long and the PDF won’t let me copy but it goes essentially like this
…The court declares Barak Obama, aka… is not a natural born or naturalized citizen and is ineligle to run for and/or serve as President of the United States. The Democratic National Committee is hereby enjoined from naming Barak Hussein Obama as candidate…..
Please respond if you have a better understanding of this than I do.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am

gpreiss: i have no doubt that mccain will win in alabama.
there is a klu lux klan flag at the monument to confederate soldiers right by the capitol in alabama. i’d say that should answer your question.

Posted by: mara | October 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

gpreiss: i have no doubt that mccain will win in alabama.
there is a klu lux klan flag at the monument to confederate soldiers right by the capitol in alabama. i’d say that should answer your question.

Posted by: mara | October 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

Seriously, it’s pretty clear the majority of America is fed up with what the Republicans have done over the last 8 years.
The Democrats will win by a solid majority.
The Republicans time in power is up. Nobody wants it anymore.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

I am waiting to see what ‘theme’ Obama is going to use at his ‘party’. I am thinking Mount Olympus. With a huge GOLD throne for the new GOD Obama. Maybe this time, the pillars will be real!!!
‘Righteous Wind At Our Backs’
No, SELF righteous maybe, self indulgent, self centered, meglamaniac, god complex…you get the drift.
I have one question for the NEW Messiah, when you are re-distributing the wealth, WHAT ABOUT YOUR WEALTH. Will you be doing the ‘PATRIOTIC DUTY’ as Biden says, and pay more taxes….somehow, I don’t think that such a greedy elitist like you will fall under this ‘NEW AMERICA’ tax.
If you becomes President of these United States, I believe you will destroy America…I also believe that is you INTENTION. We are still waiting for PROOF that you were born in Hawaii and Not KENYA.

Posted by: Robin | October 23, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

gpreiss:
re: ‘Dale Lindsborg’ fictional writer
your losing because your lies are so easy to debunk…….. pretty sad
In recent months, conservatives have been caught red-faced spreading smears about Barack Obama via emails and blogs and Web sites, their sources eventually unmasked as tainted or non-existent people. Now here’s another example, but this one is a little different–the source is a Washington Post reporter named Dale Lindsborg.
Of course, there is no Dale Lindsborg at the Post (or seemingly anywhere) but when did that get in the way of a good smear?

Posted by: Blue | October 23, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

“Nobody wants it anymore.”
Speak for yourself. I make $148,000 as an experienced optics engineer manager and my company just gave me another 7% raise.
Bush raised my standard of living and he’s kept this country safe from another 9/11 for seven years. You libs never thank him for that, all we get is lies like “inside job! inside job!” which is beyond stupid.

Posted by: WaynesWorld | October 23, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

if the narcissistic, messianic, socialist candidate barack does not strike fear and revulsion in the hearts of americans, then maybe we don’t deserve ‘america’ anymore.

Posted by: el polacko | October 23, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

I can understand why you’d demonize Palin for her lies about the Troopergate Report (“They completely cleared my of any abuse of power” – a direct lie), and her lies about the “Bridge to Nowhere” where she pretended she led the charge to stop the bridge and return the people’s hard-earned money – when really Congress stopped it and she then tagged along, and she kept all the money.
Lying directly about things so recent seems a bit demonic and stupid.
Is this too complicated?

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

Jim – where di you find this link?
If it were real, it’s hard to believe it wouldn’t be a special report on all the channels by now.
But we can alwasy hope! LOL

Posted by: diedre | October 23, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am

Jim:
That’s just what Berg is hoping the judge will rule yes on and sign into effect.
Berg is suing Obama, ruling is suppose to come tomorrow I think.

Posted by: BB | October 23, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am

Smear? everything is a smear to Obama supporters…I know a lot of this to be fact from several other resources that I have stumbled upon through my much research…as I stumbled upon this article through my late hours of research…you are duped by a lawyers eloquence my friend

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am

Randy wrote:
For all of you who doubt Obama. For all of you who do not think he has the experience or criticize his policies, I have two names for you: Colin Powell and Warren Buffet. No one in this country can criticize Powell’s patriotism and no one would even remotely think that Buffet was a Socialist. Both of these men have records that are beyond reproach and each have endorsed Obama. And yet the conservative right have such blinders on the are either unable or unwilling or both to recognize that two men way smarter than every one here have come out in support of Obama. Seriously, after the endorsement by these two, how can any of you radical conservatives continue to spout such gibberish. You may not want to vote for the man, but to continue with Ayers and ACORN and Socialism and experience. Cut the crap already. This guy has been vouched safe by two of he best that this great country of ours has to offer. Enough.
—————————————
Nice Try. Won’t work though. Colin Powell has never been a conservative republican. Nor has he ever had the opportunity to endorse a black candidate for president. Many blacks feel this way. I ain’t blaming them just stating what seems to be going on. Several former republican blacks are endorsing Obama. If he was white they would not be.
What does Warren Buffet care? He has $60B. Uncle Sam could take 59 and he still has more money than 99.99% of the country. I am very upset with him and Bill Gates. The system we have now was good enough for them to make a fortune but not good enough for anyone else? We need to have the folks making $250,000 chip in more so Warren does not feel cheated to give more? Forget you Warren just give more and leave me out of it.

Posted by: BaldEagle | October 23, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am

By Joshua Green
The attention from Jeanne Cummings’s much-talked-about Politico story has naturally focused on the $150,000 in luxury clothing purchased for Sarah Palin at Neiman Marcus, Sak’s Fifth Avenue, and Barney’s. What hasn’t yet gotten any attention is who bought it for her. But buried in the same FEC disclosure form that revealed Palin’s taste for the fine life is the name of the man who appears to have been her personal shopper: Jeff Larson.
Under FEC regulations, the RNC must file what is called a “Schedule F form,” which lists “expenditures made by political committees or designated agents(s) on behalf of candidates for federal office.” This is presumably the same document from which Cummings drew for her story. Here’s a blow-up of the RNC’s most recent Schedule F. I’ve circled the controversial purchases—and the apparent purchaser—in red magic marker.
Along with the matching dates and dollar totals, note the “Transaction ID Number,” which clearly connects the questionable expenditures with reimbursement payments made to Larson. (To totally wonk out for a second, the “m” stands for “memo,” which is included to provide an additional explanation of the transaction—basically, it links a disbursement with whatever was purchased.)
Does the name Jeff Larson sound familiar? It should. Larson is the Karl Rove protégé who’s a principal in the robocalling firm of FLS Connect (the “FLS” stands for Tony Feather, Jeff Larson, and Tom Synhorst*, all veteran Republican political operatives). Larson’s firm is the same one that launched the scurrilous robocalls against John McCain in 2000, and that McCain has now hired to make robocalls connecting Barack Obama to Bill Ayers. He’s also well known in Minnesota for leasing his basement apartment at a steeply discounted rate to embattled Republican Senator Norm Coleman. Evidently, Larson also has quite the eye for women’s fashion. Even hateful liberals would have to admit that Palin dresses awfully nicely.
What’s so incompetent about this from a political tradecraft perspective is that both parties ordinarily take the easy precaution of making sure such embarrassing material isn’t obvious to reporters, which they do by routing the payment through a law firm or consultant. Here they neglected to do so. Larson may not be able to look forward to a lucrative contract with a McCain administration. But who knows? He may land his own show on Bravo.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

jim..
you’ve proved the conspiracy….
every news and cable organization in the world buried that story ….. great detective work..!

Posted by: Blue | October 23, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

Well, what I was going to wright, got stopped by the MAN!! Honest, it wasn’t bad. All I was saying was, Jim, I really REALLY hope that your link to the court papers is for real. Let’s see what the next few days brings…

Posted by: Robin | October 23, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

Why do you people continue to demonize the candidates?
I can somewhat understand demonizing McCain because he voted with Bush over 90% of the time and bragged about it, and Bush basically lined the pockets of his oil, banking and military/industrial complex buddies while embarassing the country internationally – and he pushed the country radically further into BANKRUPTCY with abusive spending of the public’s money.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

diedre -
It is real. Someone had posted a docet number for the case the other day, I googled it and it took me to the district court’s page. It’s a legitimate site for the Pennsylvania Eastern Distric Court.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

Righteous Wind ???
OBAMA ????
Are we really talking about Barack Obama ????
Maybe you should Ask yourself this: Would Obama abuse government power if elected???
Watch this brief local TV news cast and judge for yourself:

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

Yes Jim, Obama’s legalize would not produce an authentic copy of his birth certificate and a fake one was posted by the FactCheck.org…and LA Times…his 30 days to respond ended and he did not produce…could that be coincidental in his trip to Hawaii? I hope and pray that he has not lied about that for the sake of his grandmothers fall.

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

Two things that I find irreconcilable about Colin Powell are 1)He rose through the ranks of the military to get to where he is today and 2)
He doesn’t seem to think that unrepentant, communist, terrorist friends of Obama blowing up the Pentagon is so bad.

Posted by: Carl | October 23, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

Beware Obama Campaign operatives are active on this Blog. Ignore their distractions and vote – make sure your vote counts – and spread the truth the Main Stream Media will not.
Obama – a forece for good? righteous?
Maybe you should Ask yourself this: Would Obama abuse government power if elected???

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

Thanks everyone. It was late last night when I had first seen this lawsuit stuff so I had just favorited it and went to bed. Then tonight there was this new document that we’re talking about and I guess I got a little excited…..Can’t blame me, can you?
Anyway, here is the link that goes to the full menu of documents for this case. The one I posted earlier just takes you to the one filing I was asking about.
Let’s hope tommorrow brings good news.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am

These attempts of yours to make Obama seem “unAmerican” or “friends with terrorists” are pathetic. A few morons will buy it, but by and large all the polls show it just isn’t working. People understand the Swift Boat bull the Republicans perfected with Karl Rove and his crew now working for McCain.
And they’re tired of the lying, cheating and abuse of power they’ve seen from Republicans who have blown their money on HUGE budget deficits and run their country into a war with people who had nothing to do with 9/11. They don’t like the fact we killed thousands and thousands of people doing it.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

Reality Check:
I know Obama operatives are on this blog. I’ve had three posts censored.

Posted by: Kaylee | October 23, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

Righteous wind–nice analogy–kamakaze and electing Obama

Posted by: Carl | October 23, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

These attempts of yours to make Obama seem “unAmerican” or “friends with terrorists” are pathetic. A few morons will buy it, but by and large all the polls show it just isn’t working. People understand the Swift Boat bull the Republicans perfected with Karl Rove and his crew now working for McCain.
And they’re tired of the lying, cheating and abuse of power they’ve seen from Republicans who have blown their money on HUGE budget deficits and run their country into a war with people who had nothing to do with 9/11. And they don’t like the fact we killed thousands and thousands of people doing it.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am

Mara, I apologize for making a blunder when I posted that Washington Post—can you admit your blunders now?

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am

Why I am voting Democrat!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending MY MONEY than I would. I think when you spread the wealth around it is good for everybody! It’s Patriotic!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. All profits are evil and should be confiscated for Government Redistribution.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that MORE Government regulations and higher taxes on Business will stop Business from exporting their jobs to Countries with LESS Government regulations and lower taxes.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe terrorists should be allowed to have trials in American courts. And be able to subpoena top secret documents, soldiers, government officials, etc. to cross examine for their defense. They should have ACLU lawyers who can help intimidate Americans who serve on the juries!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe Gay Marriage should be the law of the land and will probably produce better children.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe English should not be the official language of the United States. I don’t mind pushing one for English when I use the phone.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe partial birth abortion is okay but water boarding a terrorist is disgusting.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe having a domestic terrorist like Bill Ayers as a close friend is a good thing. It allows for great relations with foreign terrorists.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe in a FREE government health care system. I believe doctors, nurses, hospitals, drug companies, etc. will gladly donate their time, products, services, facilities, etc. for FREE and that will be a better system.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe in and support trial lawyers, frivolous lawsuits and outrageous jury verdicts.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe 9/11 was an inside job to con the American people to go to war for oil.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe social security is solvent and that there is a social security lock box and I don’t believe social security is a Ponzi scheme.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe MOST AMERICANS are bitter and cling to their guns and religion. Let’s rid our country of guns and religion!
I’m voting Democrat because I believe illegal aliens deserve all the rights of ordinary Americans plus some additional rights Americans do not have.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe corporations should pay higher taxes! I believe higher taxes on business will make the price of their products and services LESS EXPENSIVE.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe groups like ACORN who register felons, drug addicts, wino’s, homeless drifters, illegal aliens, dead people, children, fictional Disney characters, etc. makes my vote count more.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe celebrating the winter solstice shows compassion for the small minority of people that do not celebrate Christmas.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe hard core criminal murders and rapists deserve life and that the innocent unborn deserve death. It’s a choice I can live with.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe Bush caused Hurricane Katrina and he blew-up the levies in the ninth ward of New Orleans.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that any one who is not partaking in one of the many wonderful government programs obviously has too much money and should pay higher taxes.
I’m voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq the terrorists will be happy and now think of us as good people.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe our soldiers are AIR RAIDING villages and killing innocent people.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe sex in the Oval Office with an intern is a private matter and that everybody lies under oath about sex.
I’m votin Demokrat becuse I wus edumkated at a publick sckrool. I lik da Natsionel Edukatshun Assoseeashun!
I’m voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as it does not offend people. Can’t we all just get along?
I’m voting Democrat because I believe oil companies’ profits are wrong. I believe higher taxes on oil companies will produce lower prices at the pump.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe we need to rid ourselves of dependency on foreign oil, BUT I AM AGAINST offshore drilling for oil and natural gas, drilling in Anwar, building nuclear power plants and clean coal technology.
And finally, I’m voting Democrat because I believe Reverend Wright when he said “GODDAMN AMERICA” and “OUR CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST”. Hey let’s make a comfortable nest for those chickens!
Why are you voting Democrat?

Posted by: WaynesWorld | October 23, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am

These attempts of yours to make Obama seem “unAmerican” or “friends with terrorists” are pathetic. A few morons will buy it, but by and large all the polls show it just isn’t working. People understand the Swift Boat bull the Republicans perfected with Karl Rove and his crew now working for McCain.
And they’re tired of the lying, cheating and abuse of power they’ve seen from Republicans who have blown their money on HUGE budget deficits and run their country into a war with people who had nothing to do with 9/11. And they don’t like the fact we killed thousands and thousands of people doing it.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

It is important that the voters in the upcoming election understand what is the cause of the current economic problems in order for the election to have a positive effect on the economy. Conventional wisdom and urban legends can be used by those responsible for the economic problems to escape consequences of their policies and end up being the proverbial foxes guarding the henhouse. Luckily for our economic future, in this electronic age, the answers are readily available to the average citizen’s finesse and fingertips.
Some questions that should be asked are these: Which senators have taken the most money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and what is their party affiliation? Which politicians, and what are their party affiliations, encouraged sub-prime lending the most? Which politicians, and of which party affiliation, are closest to ACORN, which champions sub-prime lending by intimidating banks? Which politicians, and of what party, strove to regulate Fannie Mae several years ago when problems were apparent? What is the party affiliation of the politicians who, in a 2004 House hearing(on u-tube), attacked and denounced Federal Regulator Armando Falcone and those who tried to expose the sub prime problems with Fannie Mae? Which politicians, bureaucrats, and CEO’s and of what party, got very favorable personal loans through Countrywide Financial? What are the similarities between Enron’s Ken Lay and recent Fannie Mae CEOs? What is the party affiliation of politicians who broke the overpriced economy’s back by strangling our domestic oil supply? And finally, has the dominant news media been helpful or a hindrance to finding the facts? May I suggest you ask some of your own questions?

Posted by: Carl | October 23, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am

Abusing the Criminal Justice system for Personal Political Gain.
Watch what Obama means by Righteous.
http://breitbart.tv/?p=182623
The Supreme Court ruled that laws like the Sedition Act were illegal, what, 200 years ago??? But a little thing like the constitution and the supreme court will not stand in the way of OBAMA.
Maybe you should Ask yourself this: Would Obama violate the constitution and abuse government power if elected???
Watch this brief local TV news cast and judge for yourself:
http://breitbart.tv/?p=182623

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

This may seem contrary to thought…but preros…I may seem stupid to you, but going in to remove a dictator who genicided 450,000 or more people in Iraq was something that no one had the kahunas to do…and we forget that although they did not have WDM’s completed, they did find material to make it with and documents showing a desire to…

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

good post Carl

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

The problem the Republicans have is they’ve been in power basically for the past 8 years. 8 years in the White House and 6 of those years holding both the senate and congress.
And it’s one pathetic record and one incredible mess the Republicans have left. The country is running astronomical deficits, the economy is in a dangerous state and the country is still trying to get out of a war started by the Republican White House that had nothing to do with 9/11. It was a neo-con wet dream built on dumb ambition and arrogance and a few fabricated ‘facts’ to confuse the public. And the public knows it.
So all that is left is to throw slime at the Democrats and try to demonize the candidate and the party.
It ain’t gonna work. The Democrats will rightfully win a solid majority, the Republicans will be out

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

Sorry, gpreiss, that Lindsborg thing is a hoax, not to mention a despicable smear. There is no Lindsborg at the Washington Post, and Obama never said those things.

Posted by: Frederick | October 23, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

Fredrick, I have already apologized and retracted my statement…

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

There are tons of damning evidential documents that I could have used and I chose poorly…but some of the statements can be picked up in his Memoirs—there are plenty of them that show his influences…

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Kamikaze is Japanese for “divine wind,” not “righteous wind,” Carl

Posted by: Reason | October 23, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

I prefer the original version of “Elmer Gantry,” with Kirk Douglas.
Half a billion spent and His brother still lives in that box.

Posted by: Irene Flick | October 23, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

gp you’ve somewhat discredited yourself as any kind of authority.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

ROFLMAO.
You can tell the right wingers know they are losing badly when they put their faith in Berg.
The lesson for the day? Right wingers are gullible.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

Sorry, that was Burt Lancaster in “Elmer Gantry.” It’s a great movie, everyone should see it before they vote.
Aging Warrior/Wonder Woman ’08

Posted by: Irene Flick | October 23, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

“Fredrick, I have already apologized and retracted my statemen”
The one post later you say some statements could be true
Yet another lying right winger.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

His paper trail to Odinga in Kenya should be enough for anyone…his election in 1996 as a New Party candidate…these are not smears…they are in black and white…the quick rise to power should throw up a caution flag…he is one fine lawyer

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

These attempts of yours to make Obama seem “unAmerican” or “friends with terrorists” are pathetic. A few morons will buy it, but by and large all the polls show it just isn’t working. People understand the Swift Boat bull the Republicans perfected with Karl Rove and his crew now working for McCain.
And they’re tired of the lying, cheating and abuse of power they’ve seen from Republicans who have blown their money on HUGE budget deficits and run their country into a war with people who had nothing to do with 9/11. They don’t like the fact we killed thousands and thousands of people doing it.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

Senator John McCain’s campaign manager was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations, current and former officials say.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

I feel sorry for the judge in PA. If the ruling is against Obama, the left will bend over backwards to destroy him.
That’s one thing you lefty wack jobs don’t see the right doing. We don’t destroy people, vandalize their stuff, riot, barge on stage to silence the opposition, hold up traffic because we’ve got political axes to grind, scream at you in public, physically threaten you or use obscene hand gestures.
I have a feeling that you all may have just dug yourself a whole that you’ll never climb out of. If you win, fine but I expect there is going to be a whole lot of people that decide to retire early and do away with your jobs. I could most definately find more enjoyable things to do with my time than to work to pay for people like you.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am

I’m not a right-winger…I never have voted straight party…I vote issues and for people who believe in Capitalism…it is Socialism that has been breeding that caused the current crisis…programs…you must work in one of them since you are quick to defend

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am

no prefros…i just showed that I was willing to admit when I have made an error in judgement, but then, I’m not running for President am I?

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

Reality check for Reality Check:
In Cincinnati, the Hamilton County prosecutor — who also is the local chairman of Republican Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign — launched a grand-jury investigation last week following complaints about some early voters. On Monday, he turned the case over to a court-appointed special prosecutor, after Democrats complained that the allegations were politically motivated. Now, the board of elections is fighting over whether to hire an attorney to keep tabs on the prosecutor.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

Anyone spending time like you are trying to demonize the Democrats or their candidate should just take care of themselves. That is enough of a burden perhaps.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month from the end of 2005 through last month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement.
The disclosure undercuts a remark by Mr. McCain on Sunday night that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had had no involvement with the company for the last several years.
Mr. Davis’s firm received the payments from the company, Freddie Mac, until it was taken over by the government this month along with Fannie Mae, the other big mortgage lender whose deteriorating finances helped precipitate the cascading problems on Wall Street, the two people said.
They said they did not recall Mr. Davis’s doing much substantive work for the company in return for the money, other than to speak to a political action committee of high-ranking employees in October 2006 on the approaching midterm Congressional elections. They said Mr. Davis’s firm, Davis Manafort, had been kept on the payroll because of his close ties to Mr. McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, who by 2006 was widely expected to run again for the White House.
Mr. Davis took a leave from Davis Manafort for the presidential campaign, but as an equity holder continues to benefit from its income. No one at Davis Manafort other than Mr. Davis was involved in efforts on Freddie Mac’s behalf, the people familiar with the arrangement said.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

There are tons of them, but they will do you no good…you aren’t open to truth

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

gp you were the one posting information that was inaccurate . . . you have forgotten so quickly.
oh wait . .. you said you were sorry

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am

Jim has been doing his reading

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am

Ryan C -
Yes Ryan, that is fine and dandy but we’re not able to hold McCain’s campaign manager accountable, are we? We can however, take care of those leeches in Congress.
Is your partisonship so important to you that you will give these scumbags a pass?
And in case you didn’t read everything that was posted, let me repost a relevant sentence or two:
…Senator Russell D. Feingold, the Wisconsin Democrat who, with Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, has championed legislation to overhaul campaign finance, said today that he was ashamed of his party’s fund-raising efforts. Mr. Feingold called it ”a system of legalized bribery and legalized extortion.”

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am

and I am, Obama changed his mind over and over and you accept that but you can’t accept it when I do…that’s double standard—because I guess you’ve never erred?

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am

I can understand why you’d demonize Palin for her lies about the Troopergate Report (“They completely cleared me of any abuse of power” – a direct lie), and her lies about the “Bridge to Nowhere” where she pretended she led the charge to stop the bridge and return the people’s hard-earned money – when really Congress stopped it and she then tagged along, and she kept all the money.
Lying directly about things so recent seems a bit demonic and stupid.
Is this too complicated?

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am

pefros -
You have a point but that really isn’t going from bad to better. I would like to see people go to jail as that’s what they deserve. In the meantime, Congress needs to be swept completely clean. And in time (hopefully not too long) we’ll see enough third party support and maybe a viable candidate will make a go of it. Right now seems like a good time get this ball rolling. Start by trashing incumbants. Help create the momentum so we can rid ourselves of these people. It’s not about politics anymore…it’s about liars, manipulators and crooks that are destroying us.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

Obama Campaign propaganda tactics in action:
The individual using screen name Ryan C wrote:
“Corsi is a joke that got exposed as a fraud.”
Make personal, attacks on an individual who is not available to defend himself, without objective evidence that anything the Obama operative says is true.
Then attack another third party based on the assumption your first statement was actually true.
Standard propaganda tactics.

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

Only the unlearned would accept the new label of a “Socialist” the McCain campaign is trying to pin on Senator Obama. Alas, I used to know and support the McCain of 2000, but Mr. McCain of today is no McCain of 2000. Since the McCain campaign is using Obama’s tax reduction plan to label him socialist, then this brush will touch not only Obama, but McCain as well. The only difference is McCain will take tax the middle class and distribute that money to the rich.Obama’s tax plan, however, will tax the super rich and reduce the tax rate on the working middle class. Label it what you want but a socialist is McCain as much as Obama, but McCain is much worse for the middle class.

Posted by: SamR | October 23, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am

Jim the Democrats have only had 2 short years of influence . .. . whereas the Republican crooks have had their 8 years in the White House and 6 controlling senate and congress; I would definitely support all of the Republicans being turfed out.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am

pefros,
I am voting Democrat simply to annoy fools like you.
And, as a bonus, if enough other people vote Democrat, too, then everything George W. Bush has done to steal my civil liberties and yours in the name of “homeland security” and “the war on terror” can be undone, and we can all be real Americans again, our Constitution, its checks and balances, and our full rights restored.

Posted by: vahana | October 23, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am

gp don’t be disappointed in yourself or your fellow Americans. Be disappointed in the leadership that brought America to this disgraced state.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am

yes Sam, and Obama will tweak his plan so many times no one knows what he is going to do…he has done it with every issue—and he has thrown every associate of his past under the bus…his followers will be next…I’m sorry

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am

and don’t forget that Obama was one of those leaders as he has someone managed to elite himself above any association—be reasonable—he was there too

Posted by: gpreiss | October 23, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

vahana I encourage you to vote Democrat if that is your choosing. I fully support you. We’ve had enough of the Republicans to last us at least 8 years.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

ummmm, if a Republican were to claim ‘righteousness,’ the liberals would pounce all over that as being messianic (i.e. nuts). Is Obama nuts too? Just wondering.

Posted by: laertius | October 23, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am

In Cincinnati, the Hamilton County prosecutor — who also is the local chairman of Republican Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign — launched a grand-jury investigation last week following complaints about some early voters. On Monday, he turned the case over to a court-appointed special prosecutor, after Democrats complained that the allegations were politically motivated. Now, the board of elections is fighting over whether to hire an attorney to keep tabs on the prosecutor.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am

pefros -
I respect that but I don’t agree. No system of Government is going to work if our elected officials can’t understand that governing requires a little mutual respect and decency for fellow lawmakers and maybe just a tad of motivation to actaully do what they were hired to do.
Just look at our politics – we have never been so divided. It’s not your fault, it’s not mine. This is what these noble people have done for us…and we actually pay them for this?
We have politicians trashing voters that have the gall to ask a question. We have Congress with a sub 10% approval rating and we don’t fire them?
They are all clowns. Life used to be good here but what this is becoming is absolutely laughable. Trashing our fellow citizens, running their lives into the ground, media doing the same, Congress tanking the world’s economy.
They’re all morons..they don’t know how to create jobs, balance a budget or tell the truth..all they know is how to manipulate and divide and SPEND.
This is not a Right/Left issue. It’s OUR issue. The media and the parties want us divided, fighting each other so we don’t take a moment to look at them.
And look at the seeds they have sewn for us…on Nov 4th, if the country chooses McCain, do you think anyone is going to believe that he didn’t steal it? No matter what, that will be the accusation the left throws out there (this goes both ways…as the Right will believe Acorn stole it for Obama) and the party leaders and the media will rejoince in the insurrection that follows because it elevates them, gives them stature.
All we want is to get honest information so we can hire a decent guy to fill the role and we go through this?? They won’t be honest or avoid divisiveness and THEY ARE NOT WORTHY OF THE SEATS THEY HOLD.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am

Reality Check we’ve already seen worse with Chief Justice Gonzalez.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am

Ferreting out these nefarious activities became a central focus of the Justice Department under John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzales at the direction of the Bush White House. The department instructed all U.S. attorneys that the prosecution and conviction of voter-fraud perpetrators was, in Gonzales’s words, a “top priority.” Extensive investigations were undertaken across the nation. Yet, by 2005, as Art Levine reported in the American Prospect this April, only two people had been charged with falsifying or fabricating voter registration forms, and nobody had been charged with impersonating another voter.
But the current attacks on ACORN provide the pretext for attempts to turn black voters and college students away from their polling places. In Ohio, the Republican war on voting has already begun. Hamilton County (that’s Cincinnati) prosecutor Joseph Deters, who is also the Southwest Ohio regional chair of the McCain campaign, subpoenaed the records of 266 new voters who have cast absentee ballots because he suspected their addresses might not comport to other public records. A GOP fundraiser in the state is asking the Ohio Supreme Court to deny 200,000 recent registrants the right to vote because their addresses on their registration forms don’t match those on their driver’s licenses, a discrepancy that suggests that the voters have moved or that the addresses were entered incorrectly by the registrar’s offices.
If you can’t find the crime here, you’re not alone. A number of the U.S attorneys fired by Gonzales got the ax for failing to uncover such crimes, though they conducted far-reaching investigations. David Iglesias, the former U.S. attorney for New Mexico, told Levine that voter fraud “is like the boogeymen parents use to scare their children. It’s very frightening, and it doesn’t exist.”

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am

Exactly Jim, that is why the Republicans should be thrown out of the White House, Congress and Senate.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

By the way Jim, I’ve seen that full discussion between Obama and the plumber and Obama took a fair bit of time with that guy, and he took time to explain where he was coming from.
It was McCain who chose to thrust the plumber into the spotlight by mentioning him many times in the last debate – and then McCain had the gall to say that was Obama’s fault the guy came under scrutiny. What a lame and sleazy move.
And of course the truth is the plumber would do better under Obama’s tax plan, and McCain knows that.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am

pefros -
Thanks for for everything. I feel so much better now that I know there is one more person out there that can’t think with his own mind and values the political divisivness more than our success as a country.
People that vote with us vs. them mentaility are just idiots that enable these guys to turn our country into a sewer. Plain and simple. You’re as much at fault as they are.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am

If your gonna tax joe the plummer, tax hollywood!!

Posted by: Greg | October 23, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am

In her opening statement to the House Judiciary Committee today, Monica Goodling — the Justice Department’s former White House Liason — admitted that she had “taken inappropriate political considerations into account” while hiring career employees at the Department.
Later during the hearing, Rep. Bobby Scott (D-VA) asked Goodling whether she believed her actions had broken the law. Goodling initially tried to dodge the question, saying “that’s not a conclusion for me to make.” Scott followed up: “Do you believe that they were illegal?” Goodling again tried to squirm her way out of a straight answer, “I don’t believe I intended to commit a crime.”
But Scott continued to push for a real answer, listing the various types of laws that may have been broken. He again asked Goodling, “Were there any laws that you could have broken by taking political considerations into account, quote, on some occasions?”
Goodling eventually relented, admitting, “I crossed the line of the civil service rules.” Scott clarified, “Rules? Laws. You crossed the law on civil service laws. You crossed the line on civil service laws, is that right?” She said, “I believe I crossed the lines. But I didn’t mean to.”

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am

Sorry Jim, if you’re saying politicians are crooks whether Democrat or Republican, I would agree .. .
However, I’m simply appalled at what I’ve seen from the Republicans in power and I have little desire to coddle them. The Republicans will be rightfully voted out of Presidential office and have no more right to Congress than anybody else.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales signed a highly confidential order in March 2006 delegating to two of his top aides — who have since resigned because of their central roles in the firings of eight U.S. attorneys — extraordinary authority over the hiring and firing of most non-civil-service employees of the Justice Department. A copy of the order and other Justice Department records related to the conception and implementation of the order were provided to National Journal.
In the order, Gonzales delegated to his then-chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson, and his White House liaison “the authority, with the approval of the Attorney General, to take final action in matters pertaining to the appointment, employment, pay, separation, and general administration” of virtually all non-civil-service employees of the Justice Department, including all of the department’s political appointees who do not require Senate confirmation. Monica Goodling became White House liaison in April 2006, the month after Gonzales signed the order.
The existence of the order suggests that a broad effort was under way by the White House to place politically and ideologically loyal appointees throughout the Justice Department, not just at the U.S.-attorney level. Department records show that the personnel authority was delegated to the two aides at about the same time they were working with the White House in planning the firings of a dozen U.S. attorneys, eight of whom were, in fact, later dismissed.
A senior executive branch official familiar with the delegation of authority said in an interview that — as was the case with the firings of the U.S. attorneys and the selection of their replacements — the two aides intended to work closely with White House political aides and the White House counsel’s office in deciding which senior Justice Department officials to dismiss and whom to appoint to their posts. “It was an attempt to make the department more responsive to the political side of the White House and to do it in such a way that people would not know it was going on,” the official said.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am

“You have a Monica problem,” Ms. Ashton was told, according to several Justice Department officials. Referring to Monica M. Goodling, a 31-year-old, relatively inexperienced lawyer who had only recently arrived in the office, the boss added, “She believes you’re a Democrat and doesn’t feel you can be trusted.”
Ms. Ashton’s ouster — she left the Executive Office for United States Attorneys for another Justice Department post two weeks later — was a critical early step in a plan that would later culminate in the ouster of nine United States attorneys last year.
Ms. Goodling would soon be quizzing applicants for civil service jobs at Justice Department headquarters with questions that several United States attorneys said were inappropriate, like who was their favorite president and Supreme Court justice. One department official said an applicant was even asked, “Have you ever cheated on your wife?”
Ms. Goodling also moved to block the hiring of prosecutors with résumés that suggested they might be Democrats, even though they were seeking posts that were supposed to be nonpartisan, two department officials said.
And she helped maintain lists of all the United States attorneys that graded their loyalty to the Bush administration, including work on past political campaigns, and noted if they were members of the Federalist Society, a conservative legal group.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am

pefros -
Oh Come on. McCain brought him up, yes. And Obama took the brunt of it, true.
Then, the next day, Obama’s on the campaign trail TRASHING joe the plumber. Biden’s on the trail, that same day, TRASHING joe. Not disagreeing with him, insinuating Joe was a liar and a LOSER…”No plumber in MY neighborhood makes $250k”
It’s okay to disagree politically..it’s not okay to publicly destroy people that have done nothing but ask the guy who’s interviewing for a postion a question.
Are you saying that because McCain mentioned his name that Obama has the right to ruin this guy?
Maybe then it’s the camerman’s fault (Obama was okay with the filming) who captured the moment and then put it on TV.
McCain did no harm, the camera guy did no harm. Obama stepped WAY over the line and owes this guy an apology.
How do you suppose Joe’s children feel now? Ever think they may be getting harassed by little Obama maniacs in school? Maybe their ashamed now that half the country appears to hate them and not understand why. Turn on TV…look for a cartoon…see Kieth Oberman call your dad the Worst guy on the planet?
Nice. Screww these people, bring on the depression and Wars. We need our buttts kicked.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am

Sorry Jim, if you’re saying politicians are crooks whether Democrat or Republican, I would agree .. .
However, I’m simply appalled at what I’ve seen from the Republicans in power and I have little desire to coddle them. The Republicans will be rightfully voted out of Presidential office and have no more right to Congress than anybody else.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am

Senator Obama’s math doesn’t add up. He promises to tax 5% of the so called rich who bring in 3.7% of the wealth to pay for over 1 TRILLION dollars in new financing. Impossible. The money will have to come from other sources which means either he waffles on his tax cut promises or he waffles on the promised new plans like universal health care. Just words. Do the math for yourself.
Also, why does he want to create the Civilian Domestic Police Force that will be manditory sevice for anyone receiving Federal aid that will be equally armed, equally funded and equally strong as the military? Don’t we already have an Army, Navy, Marine, and National Guard?

Posted by: wordsmithy | October 23, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am

Joe was a liar and a LOSER”
Well Joe is a liar.
He said he was about to buy the business. Later he admitted that is many years away.
He stated the business made $250K to $280K. Later he had to admit the business made about $100K.
And we know Joe hates taxes since he doesn’t bother to actually pay them.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am

pefros -
Yea. I’m not being partison. I do have my preference in the presidential choice right now…we’ve only got 2 to pick from and I’m picking what I think is the least of the dangerous at the moment. Congress on the other hand is where the real problems are. There is no accountability…way too much pointing of fingers…way too much lying..too much hate…complete inability to function with any semblace of civility. It’s broken. They’re all corrupt or inept. Congress needs gutted wall to wall. I’m voting against every incumbant..regardless of party.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 4:15 am 4:15 am

Sorry Jim, your reading of the situation with the plumber is way skewed.
The plumber asked a question, Obama answered it. That was it.
Then McCain chose to thrust this guy into the spotlight by mentioning him many times in the debate – using a private citizen to score political points. Clearly, McCain’s choice to ride this guy’s for political points, knowing it would put him under media scrutiny.
All Obama and McCain did was point out most plumbers are making under $250,000 a year, and would benefit under their tax plan.
They scoffed at McCain’s implication that normal old Joe the plumber would be earning more than $250,000 and taxed heavily under the Democratic tax plan. They did not scoff at Joe the Plumber.
McCain then accused them of scoffing at Joe the plumber.
Try to get these things right.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

John McCain wants to tax health benefits provided by employers as income in order to finance his health care tax credit.
Under the insane right wing definition, McCain is practicing socialism.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 23, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

Jim,
You’re well intentioned but mistaken. 90% of the problems in this country are cause by the ignorant, irrational leftists. First they screw things up, then they demagogue the issue, lie about their involvement, and then blame someone else.

Posted by: Weezie Jefferson | October 23, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

Has Obama seen any Virginia’s bitterly slinging to their guns and religion while he’s been doing his traveling cross the state.

Posted by: paula | October 23, 2008, 4:21 am 4:21 am

wordsmithy wrote: “Also, why does he want to create the Civilian Domestic Police Force that will be manditory sevice for anyone receiving Federal aid that will be equally armed, equally funded and equally strong as the military?”
To Word Smithy:
Are you able to share links to news media reports about this?
Especially the part about being equally armed with the military.
If it were true the Obama was talking about creating a Militia of his political supporters – that would be news.

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am

Ryan C -
Are you saying as a guy, you have never exaggerated a bit?
Clearly, it wasn’t intended to harm Obama. The Joe didn’t like something for whatever reason and asked his question.
It was asked politely, then he listended.
Obama gave a bad answer but that is Obama’s fault.
BTW – I would expect that that Iranian nutjob is a whole lot more clever than Joe is. If you want to play Obama as a victim here, I don’t think it bodes well to have a candidate that was tricked or outsmarted by a plumber.
Maybe the better approach would have been to respect Joe’s concern’s but then get on the stump and explain how maybe Joe misunderstood. Let him know your on his side rather that calling him a liar and a loser. That’s a little diplomacy there..how to turn a loss into a win. I thought you guys were supposed to be good at that sort of thing.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am

I’m appalled that McCain would USE this private citizen knowing he would be thrust into the media – without even asking him.
And also appalled McCain would try to equate normal everyday plumbers with people being taxed for income over $250,000. Everyday plumbers earn way less that that . ..and would not be hurt by Obama’s tax plan.
McCain grabbed onto this guy and basically fabricated at the guy’s expense. And then blamed it on the Democrats and the media!

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am

Weezie Jefferson -
Hey Weezie – I like the name.
Well, I see where you’re coming from in your last post but we all have a problem. Regardless of political leanings, whatever it takes to breed a better class of politics, these guys ain’t got. It’s on both sides. I think we have got to get away from the idea that we have to work harder and harder every election to beat our neighbors at the polls. We aren’t a country of two peoples in a constant battle to oppress the other. Isn’t that sort of like Iraq?
All I am saying is that we deserve better and whoever we put in power better deliver and if the don’t we should get rid of them. It’s better for each side here to lose on a few issues rather than taking our society apart a stitch at a time.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am

You have to remember, Biden scoffed at the idea that everyday joe-the-plumbers are falling into the $250,000 and above tax bracket.
He scoffed at McCain’s characterization of someone earning over $250,000 as ‘simple Joe the plumber’ . . ‘good old Joe the plumber’.
It was a cynical and manipulative ploy by McCain and he did it despite the damage it might cause the plumber.
And then to blame it on the Democrats … what a sleazy thing to do.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am

Conversation with Obama phone bank representative:
I asked the troubling question about how Obama will ensure a tax break for 95% of people–despite the fact that about 40% don’t pay income taxes. He struggled with that one for a while. It seemed to be a foreign concept to him, like no one had ever raised the subject before.
He stumbled through a series of answers. Obama would “give” the unemployed jobs so that they could pay taxes and get a tax break. When I reminded him that would only account for 6%, he–in a tribute to the American education system–said that Obama was really talking about the 55% difference between 95 and 40. I reminded him that Obama had specified 95%, not 55%. He replied that “Obama didn’t really mean that.” I asked if he, the caller, was really supporting a candidate who lied about something so important?
He told me to wait while he talked to his supervisor. I could overhear bits of a conversation in which he referred to me, rather politely, as “a difficult one.” (At least he didn’t call me THAT one.)
When he returned to the phone, he informed me that Obama would reach the 95% figure by initiating taxes on the 40% who don’t pay income taxes now, so that he could later give them their promised tax break.
Out of the mouths of babes.

Posted by: wordsmithy | October 23, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am

Obama promised tax breaks for 95% of WORKING americans.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am

pefros -
I’m curious. Is your take on Joe more important to you than Barnie Frank’s handling of his committee that is soley responsible for allowing Fannie Mae to go under?
(Don’t come back with Bush dereg spin…it’s all fake. I’ve posted a handful of NY Times links a bit ago from stories they ran back to 2000 or so. There is no ambiguity what was happening. Just read them before attacking me…please.)
I just don’t see how 1 guy’s campaign slip deserves more attention and is given more importance than the schmuch that just cost us all a few trillion dollars. Call me crazy.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am

Jim. Yes. McCain’s sleazy exploitation of the plumber is way more important to me. And further, the way he blamed the Democrats for ‘exposing’ the plumber to harsh media – McCain clearly did that by mentioning the plumber over and over in a nationally televised debate. And he warped the facts to try and make it look like ordinary joe the plumbers would be heavily taxed by Obama so he could ‘spread the wealth’ around.
Straight fabrications, lies and exploitation. I detest this kind of sleaze.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am

Perfos:
So the non-working or poor people get nothing?

Posted by: wordsmithy | October 23, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

Sorry Jim, you might have missed my reply to your question in all the spamming from Reality Check. Here it is . ..
Jim. Yes. McCain’s sleazy exploitation of the plumber is way more important to me. And further, the way he blamed the Democrats for ‘exposing’ the plumber to harsh media – McCain clearly did that by mentioning the plumber over and over in a nationally televised debate. And he warped the facts to try and make it look like ordinary joe the plumbers would be heavily taxed by Obama so he could ‘spread the wealth’ around.
Straight fabrications, lies and exploitation. I detest this kind of sleaze.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 4:56 am 4:56 am

I’m very tired of hearing apologies from the Right and excuses from the Left.
About time WE average American citizens got our government back.
Please wait for it. It will happen pre-election.
But tell your friends: ALEX WOLF is out for YOU.
Forget the Republicans who for got the free-market values.
Forget the Democrats who have adopted Socialism.
Time for US to stand up for what is ours.
WE will take this country back.
More news to follow. Wait for it.
- Alexander Victor Wolf
AMERICAN

Posted by: Alex Wolf | October 23, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am

I’m not a big John McCain fan, but I think he would be infinitely better than Obama in every respect other than lying during the State of the Union–clearly, Obama can lie as well as Clinton. Apart from that, though, I would love to see Obama lose just because he’s so annoyingly presumptuous. I’d love to see the gasbag deflated.

Posted by: Weezie Jefferson | October 23, 2008, 4:58 am 4:58 am

To me John McCain doesn’t look that well physically, mentally or emotionally . . . he’s known for intense outbursts of anger. I don’t think the country should take a chance on him. Plus, let’s face it .. . he voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time and bragged about it. Isn’t that enough?

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 5:04 am 5:04 am

Thanks for posting my words again Reality Check.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am

I’d proudly vote with George Bush before I’d vote with Dingy Harry Reid or Dim Bulb Nancy Pelosi. Those two only stand for two things: Abortion and defying George Bush. They are the absolute worst sort of dishonest political hack.

Posted by: Weezie Jefferson | October 23, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am

Weezie in many people’s eyes George Bush and his administration have been an absolute disaster for the United States. Just his irresponsible fiscal approach (BILLIONS of dollars of deficit)is enough, and we shouldn’t forget he invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and killed thousands and thousands of people .. . for their own good, cause we know best … my god. What arrogance! Good thing god is on his side.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am

Obama as President? What? The position of court jester is vacant?

Posted by: Erick | October 23, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

BUSH = CIA = OIL = HALLIBURTON = THE ELITE = MCCAIN = CHENEY

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

Why do you people continue to demonize the candidates?
I can somewhat understand demonizing McCain because he voted with Bush over 90% of the time and bragged about it, and Bush basically lined the pockets of his oil, banking and military/industrial complex buddies while embarassing the country internationally – and he totally BANKRUPTED the country with abusive spending of the public’s money.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am

I can understand why you’d demonize Palin for her lies about the Troopergate Report (“They completely cleared me of any abuse of power” – a direct lie), and her lies about the “Bridge to Nowhere” where she pretended she led the charge to stop the bridge and return the people’s hard-earned money – when really Congress stopped it and she then tagged along, and she kept all the money.
Lying directly about things so recent seems a bit demonic and stupid.
Is this too complicated?

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am

pefros,
Where did you get the idea that Bush bankrupted the country? Thats a rather silly statement. The country is nowhere near bankrupt.
And the idea that he lined the pockets of oil companies…what does that mean? Hey, think for yourself, wont you?

Posted by: KeepKyourheelsdown | October 23, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am

Liberals in Virginia have a very short life span. Warner and Webb are not liberals. If they choose to align with Pelosi and Co., they will begin the end of their reigns. Virginians have been able to quarantine the liberals to No. Va.

Posted by: RTGreenwood | October 23, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am

For the love of god, if you want to criticize Obama, look at his policy, his character, but do not insult your own intelligence by referencing things that do not exist. Obama has NO muslim background, and is probably a more ardent church attendee than ANY OF YOU. A righteous wind at our back being from the koran? Have any of you read the Koran? Has Obama read the koran (No). I know it is hard to accept that a black man will defend you better than a white man, but get used to it.

Posted by: Max | October 23, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am

Max wrote:
“Has Obama read the koran (No).”
How the Hell would you know what he has read. I am a life long Christian and I have read most of the Koran and some of the commentaries.
Obama is, by all accounts brilliant, so how would you know he has not read the Koran.

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 7:05 am 7:05 am

What is so righteous about an illegal registration campaign by ACORN? Or, for that matter, spreading the wealth around? Or, for that matter, subscribing to a philosophical acceptance of communism alla Bill Ayers, an avowed terrorist? Or receiving campaign money from such types as Tony Rezco? Or smearing Gov. Palin with phoney attacks on her character and qualifications? Obama’s campaign is hollow since it elevates a man whose grasp of the world situation is dangerous and vacuous. His smooth rhetoric will bite us in the back when his socialist plan reaches full steam. My stocks have been reduced 75% because, now defunct Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been looted by Franklin Raines and other cohorts in the subprime mortgage schemes. Obama will dry up capitalism as we know it and bring chaos, not opportunity, for the underclass.

Posted by: shearwater | October 23, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am

“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.”
All hail the democratic equivalent of the Bush administration!

Posted by: MB | October 23, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am

I wanna know what cologne or perfume the candidates wear because that’s what’s really important!

Posted by: James | October 23, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am

Yeah So thought the Japanese and Nazis!!!

Posted by: CJ | October 23, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

The righteous wind is behind barry alright, FAR behind. How’s this for extreme, barry is a pro abortion call it what it is “baby killer”. barry is a resco slum lord and poverty pimp. barry is an ayers terrorist, barry is a wright hipocrit, barry is an acorn stooly that has bankrupted our nations credit systems. barry is a bold faced liar that doesn’t have a firm principal to stand on. barry is a politician that will kiss your baby and while doing it is trying to steal the baby’s candy without the parent catching him. He is TOO extreme for my vote. I just cant get past the baby killing!

Posted by: Greg | October 23, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am

I’m appalled that McCain would USE this private citizen knowing he would be thrust into the media – without even asking him.

And also appalled McCain would try to equate normal everyday plumbers with people being taxed for income over $250,000.

Everyday plumbers earn way less that that . ..and would not be hurt by Obama’s tax plan.

McCain grabbed onto this guy and basically fabricated at the guy’s expense. And then blamed it on the Democrats and the media!

Posted by: shearwater | October 23, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am

OMG…four years of the Messiah running the country. There will be no questioning of the Messiah because the Messiah is always right.

Posted by: morebs | October 23, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

barry is also going to raise EVERYBODY’S taxes. You are an idiot if you do think so because YOU don’t understand the market and how taxes affect them. We will find out just how many STUPID voters we have on election night. Joe the plumber is an example, Joe has over 1000 dollars in overdue tax penalty. barry is typical for a Washington liberal politician, barry is going to take more of something from joe that he already knows doesn’t have and won’t stop until they take everything we make. He is a socialist.

Posted by: Greg | October 23, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

LOL…
Its like Obama’s preaching…

Posted by: Timothy Cooke | October 23, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

Righteous? More like corrupt and foul. He’s taken in more money than anyone in history with few controls to prevent money from overseas, credit card fraud, and invalid or fictitious donors. He’s destroyed campaign financing that was a critical reform. He flooded caucuses and now voter registration with out of state votes and people of marginal ability to make rational, informed choices. He’s provided little or no information about his health, college transcripts, associations with Marxists, Maoists, black separatists, Hamas and crooks. Righteous, yes, if he sees the hand of Allah placing him as the President of the Great Satan. Christians, Jews, the disabled and the middle class are doomed.

Posted by: moi61537 | October 23, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

If you believe that he believes what you believe, vote for “Hope”, vote for “Change”… vote…OBAMA!!
Paid for by George Soros, and Crazy Friends of Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: NOBama | October 23, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

TO JIM:
I think your looking at your biblical inference wrong.
Jesus did NOT have his disciples sell all they had so they could distribute thier wealth to the poor. He did this so they could then focus all thier attentions on HIM and his ministry.
Also it is a well known fact that Christians (who are more than 50% for McCain by most polls) give FREELY (read not forced to by the US Govnt) MORE $$ per person than any other faction in the world.
You may also want to ask yourself why it is that Joe Biden only gave $300 to charity last year (according to his last years tax filing available via the FEC) and Obama less than $3,000. But yet the Lord calls us to tithe (or give the top 10% of the first earnings) to charity.

Posted by: faamecanic | October 23, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

Sarah Palin radiates HONESTY every time she speaks. That’s why democrats and the media hate her so much. She lives and breathes her beliefs. I don’t hear anybody talking about the $400 thousand that Obama spent on food. All the left does anymore is call people bad names. What ever happens on November 4 will be exactly what this country deserves. Anybody who fights dirty to steal money from others is still a thief. It appears that a few dollars is more important to democrats than human life.

Posted by: debbie | October 23, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am

“Consider This ….
George W. Bush and Bill Clinton established the Precedent that any newly elected President can ask for and accept the Resignation of all US Attorneys ( Prosecutors ).”
Would that be before or after the Clintons fired thier 95 Attorneys Reality Check?

Posted by: Orpheus | October 23, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am

ahhh…. my screw up Reality… you did mention Clinton. I stand corrected. However.. I also believe that many past presidents [couldn't name them though] have also done this as is their right as I understand it.

Posted by: Orpheus | October 23, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am

“I feel like we got a”
Nice use of the english language, you bumbling idiot. THIS is what a high end education buys in America? He must have been too busy snorting coke and smoking pot to learn the use of the English language,
I am ready for Obama to be president. I am closing my business, laying off all employees, and retiring. My income will then be low enough that Obama will give me free money he has seized from other Americans.
I have done my part for many years. Now I plan to be on the Obama gravy train. The rest of you can support me, in turn for electing this socialist.
Jobs will tank, many of us will close down, or downsize, or retire. Damned if I am giving even more money away to deadbeats sitting home on the couch. It is now my turn to sit on the couch.

Posted by: Doug | October 23, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am

My politics are right of center and I hve lived under three systems and had my life upheaved because od socialism. Bottom line: the Republicans have made an unmittigated mess around the world and at home. They deserve to be thrown out and I will vote for Obama.

Posted by: Craig S | October 23, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am

Orpheus wrote:
“ahhh…. my screw up Reality… you did mention Clinton. I stand corrected. However.. I also believe that many past presidents [couldn't name them though] have also done this as is their right as I understand it.”
Reality Check writes:
The point is not have other Presidents exercised this massive power to replace all US Prosecuters when they first become elected.
The point is what do the news reports of how he used Government Prosecuters in the pass tell us about what he will do if elected.
Please read it again and watch the clip from the local TV News cast.

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am

No Obama, that’s just all the hot air from your “lap dogs” in the media, who’ve successfully covered your tracks (as well as the democrats in general) in the mortgage meltdown. Some of us know the truth, and will smile knowingly when your economic plan sends us from recession to depression.

Posted by: Bender | October 23, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

What arrogance! He has already been promising the world to everyone “once” he is elected. He pretends to be just like everyone else but yet he is really the most elitist, arrogant politician out there. What a joke…

Posted by: Bethany | October 23, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

The wind he feels at his back is Biden talking. I swear Barney Franks must be this fools Dad. Plenty off acorns but no nuts.

Posted by: Demented | October 23, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

With all due respect, 9 out of 10 probably don’t undestand what the word “socialism” means. Bush just nationalized the banking system!!! Obama deserves a shot because the Republicans-who I voted for twice-have messed up like none before. The last straw for me was Palin. How could any conservative with a brain not be embarassed.Toss the bums out.

Posted by: Craig S | October 23, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

The most serious concern all Americans
should have is that Obama – like George
Bush – feels he has some sort of moral
directive to be president. And furthermore, that he somehow deserves
that stamp of aproval by virtue of what he has accomplished. It’s absurd.
Anybody but this guy.

Posted by: Lawrence McDonald | October 23, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Enemies of our country can only strike us from within. Once Obama is elected, they will be able to strike us from the outside.
The messiah is nothing more than the tip of the spear of those that want to destroy our country, our Constitution and our way of life.
Thank God we still have millions that are not brainwashed or suffer from overwhelming unfounded guilt and low self esteem. These productive members of society and our military will not let Marxism in any form destroy our country. It’s time to turn back the clock of the left leaning downward slide in this country. No more political correctness. No more thought police. No more Congress buying votes with taxpayers’ money. No more politically biased media. Stop Obama, Soros, and our foreign enemies that are backing Obama will millions in illegal campaign contributions. And stop funding ACORN with ur tax dollars!

Posted by: ricardo maxwell | October 23, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Craig S wrote:
“Bottom line: the Republicans have made an unmittigated mess around the world and at home. They deserve to be thrown out”
Reality Check writes:
Agreed they all, Republicans and Democrats alike, deserve to be thrown out.
The question is:
Do my children and grand children deserve what will happen, or worse yet, might happen,
If we reward the Democrats with Absolute Power and tell them we are so stupid that we think they are not as responsible for our being in this situation with the Economy as the Republicans.
Democratic Senators Dodd and Obama are the two biggest takers of bribes ( OH excuse me – campaign contributions ) from the WALL Street/Banking/Real Estate Sector over the past 10 years.
And Obama is he just an honest socialist who believes in free elections even after he gets elected.
Is he truly interested in improving the United States within the current democratic Republic and it’s constitution.
Or is Obama something else.

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am

Obama is a QB with ONE PLAY and the other Team already knows the play. The wealthy that he targets to tax already have financial guru’s planning alternative strategies to lower taxable income – i.e. tax free’s. They will take gains or accelerated income before the tax law changes become affective. Then sit back for 4 years and ride it out.
In the meantime the stock sell offs will increase, investment capital will dry up and not only will no new jobs be created – alot of people will be let go.
So what’s Plan B – Mr. B?

Posted by: ILona English | October 23, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am

Mmmmm….either candidate wins, listening to the weak Dems and weak GOP, remembering the race riots of the 60s,…. I’m going to exercise my Pennsylvanian rights, Put my bible a little closer to my heart and keep my shotgun closer to the door. My family is first.

Posted by: country_first | October 23, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am

Read a nice article saying local and state law enforcement agencies are gearing up for “civil unrest” during the election. I’m assuming that this will be if the elities messiah BHO doesnt win!! If he doesnt win, the folks who would of received the re-distribution of BHO’s tax program will try to take it themselves, so folks better be prepared. Remember, Los Angeles was almost burned to the ground for a drug addict high on PCP

Posted by: dont be a fool | October 23, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Craig S…
Bush didn’t nationalize the banking system, Congress did. There is more power in Congress than in the Presidency. Where do you think the bill came from? Barney Frank, who chairs the finance committee is DIRECTLY responsible for this mess just as those who preceded him, such as Chris Dodd, Bill Clinton, and it goes back to Carter. Barney Frank and Marxine Waters among other fought tooth and nail against the changes Bush wanted to implement to rein in Freddie and Fannie because he, as well as McCain and other saw this coming. Now these idiots including Obama had the “audacity” to point the finger else where saying their wasn’t enough regulation when THEY WERE THE ONES REGULATING IT!! Now they come up with the bail out… The people who caused it, are now the people responsible for fixing it. Now who is going to regulate them? HMMM??

Posted by: John Galt | October 23, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

“Marxism will destroy our country”? Listen to your self. Look at where we are after 8 years of truly, inept politics. We are weaker on all fronts than at virtually, any time in our history. Again, throw the bums out. Mcain may be dead and then what…President Palin? She can’t put a coherent sentence together. Makes my conservative blood boil.

Posted by: craig s | October 23, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

Mmmmm….either candidate wins, listening to the weak Dems and weak GOP, remembering the race riots of the 60s,…. I’m going to exercise my Pennsylvanian rights, Put my bible a little closer to my heart and keep my shotgun closer to the door. My family is first.

Posted by: country_1 | October 23, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

Craig S…
You are no conservative…

Posted by: John Galt | October 23, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

“Righteous winds”?? omg. And people are falling for this? LOL LOL

Posted by: msa123 | October 23, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am

craig s: Correction 9 out of 10 Democrats probably don’t know what the word socialism means.
And if you really want the truth about the financial crisis and banking failures, why not read this great article by a very accomplished Democrat author?
http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light.html

Posted by: ricardo maxwell | October 23, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

George W. Bush and Bill Clinton established the Precedent that any newly elected President can ask for and accept the Resignation of all US Attorneys ( Prosecutors ).
If, elected, Obama will legally have the power to replace every US attorney with a hand picked attorney who shares his view of what the US government Criminal Justice system should be used for.
In turn these US Attorney’s, together with Obama’s hand picked US Attorney General, will have the power to replace all the thousands of United States prosecutors with attorney’s that share Obama’s view of how the US Criminal justice system should be used.
Please watch the below local TV news report and judge for yourself Obama’s view on how the US Criminal Justice system should be used. Is it Righteous or Self Righteous.
Watch this brief local TV news cast and judge for yourself:
http://breitbart.tv/?p=182623

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

A simple question for Obama fans: if GOP policies were so terrible, why is it the DOW average climbed from 8000 in March 2003, to 14,000 in October 2007?

Posted by: Bender | October 23, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

Craig S,
You’re a tiresome cliché. Do a little reading about what really caused this financial mess (Hint: Fannie, Freddie, Dodd, Frank, Obama). Also, don’t give me this Palin is not fit to be VP nonsense. Ever heard Joe Biden speak? Just because he’s old doesn’t mean he knows anything. Remember John Edwards in 2004? How about Algore throughout the 90′s. Are you going to tell me these guys knew their rear ends from a hole in ground? Edwards is a lying ambulance chaser. Algore is a tool of environmental extremists. Binden is just a dope. He lectures us about Article 1 of the constitution but gets it wrong. He waxes eloquent about going to his favorite restaurant where real people like him hang out, only to find out it closed 20 years ago. His strongest selling point is that he’s from Scranton–Just like Michael Scott. Palin’s the real deal; these other guys are posers.

Posted by: Wolfgang | October 23, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

I submit, that there will be riots if Obama wins or loses. Either in celebration, or anger at the loss. I point to NYC as the example when David Dinkins first became Mayor, crime skyrocketed and remained high until Guiliani succeeded him. This example also applies to Washington DC, Detroit, and others. The criminal element in the black community (as well as others) felt they had a free ride because one if their own as they saw it was in charge, and that they could do as they pleased without repercussions.
When the ‘Mob Rules’ mentality takes hold, the mob will rule.

Posted by: John Galt | October 23, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Bart for president

Posted by: country_1 | October 23, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

I can’t believe any one would consider the following question intelligent:
“A simple question for Obama fans: if GOP policies were so terrible, why is it the DOW average climbed from 8000 in March 2003, to 14,000 in October 2007?”
What rock are you hiding under? Do you not have the fundamental economic grasp that the past 8 years have been a false economy? Jeeze louise on a biscuit…we’re truly doomed by our own stupidity.

Posted by: Mel | October 23, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Not a classic “American Conservative”, perhaps….right to life, etc…but certainly in the real politik,balance of power, Thatcher, Churchill, etc mode.
Look at the record…conservatives believe in some mode of fiscal responsibility and we don’t get involved in foolish adventures around the world that will only result in failure. What did the Founding Fathers say? All a matter of interpretation, I suppose and again I say, throw the bums out!!

Posted by: craig s | October 23, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

Actually Craig S
If you really want to look at the last 8 years, lets…after 9/11 and the tech bubble burst, the economy moved into a growth stage that saw a decline in unemployment and an increase in economic growth by 2005. In 2006, the Democrats took over Congress and here we are today. Ask any economist, the economy and the stock market are a lagging indicator of policies that were put into place 18-24 months prior…funny because with this current mess and the great Bubble burst, Democrats seemed to be lingering around in high numbers

Posted by: dont be a fool | October 23, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am

“What rock are you hiding under? Do you not have the fundamental economic grasp that the past 8 years have been a false economy? Jeeze louise on a biscuit…we’re truly doomed by our own stupidity.”
Funny, the DOW dropped 800 points and the NASDAQ dropped from 4500 to 2700 during the last year of the Clinton administration, yet you liberal idiots claim things were “good” under Clinton.

Posted by: Bender | October 23, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

mayhemontheway
So I really didn’t want to put the doom and gloom that way, but I don’t think I could have put it better then you did. Win or lose, it will be a good excuse for the undisciplined and unruly to pillage the country. The 2nd amendment will never be more important, and for those that are planning the brewhaha, keep in mind, there still are real Americans out there that will die to defned their land and family!!

Posted by: dont be a fool | October 23, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

It’s been amusing, tweaking you self-rightous “conservatives”. Look at what the more worldly, thinking conservatives say and do…Noonan, Buckley, etc. Argue back and forth all you like but blaming any but Bush, et al fot the hole we are in around the world is crazy. Palin is the “real deal”? I want Joe 6 pack represented in office, NOT holding office. Throw the bums out…

Posted by: craig s | October 23, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Sounds like he is saying God is on his side. Good to know he is such a stand up guy.

Posted by: Scott | October 23, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

There is certainly nothing righteous on the Republican side….not even a breeze.
McCain has sunk to new lows in this campaign. He is NOT at all the man I thought he was. What the heck happened John?
Your mudslinging has gone to new levels. You were the one who condemned the Bush campaign tactics in South Carolina in 2000. Now you have the same people working for you to create any kind of slur they can against Obama?? What happened John???

Posted by: MaryC3 | October 23, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

We’ve had ENOUGH Of you Cheating Liberals that think that since you can’t win an election on Ideas, So You will steal it by poring close to a million dollars into Left Wing Groups that are trying to register everyone from Edi Amine to Hugo Chavez. Then you have your Left Wing MEDIA friends showing polls that are out to lunch to try to throw of republican voters by making them think that McCain has no chance to win this election.
We here in FlyOver Country are going to blow some Righteous Votes For McCain Palin and I am going to be laughing My butt off all night long long watching your Media Blowhards’ squirm in their madness.

Posted by: derrekmichigan | October 23, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

“Bill, WOW, take some time out and think what you just wrote. Jesus was talking about voluntarily giving your wealth up. That means charities like a church.”
Posted by: Jim | Oct 23, 2008 7:12:09 AM
Absolutely correct, Jim.
Indeed, Jesus said tax collectors were perhaps the worst sinners of all.

Posted by: David B. | October 23, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

I can’t wait for the return of the Carter years… 18% inflation & 14%+ Prime!
Now THAT will create new jobs… IN CHINA AND MEXICO!!!
Get ready to go to work for BIG BUSINESS because we small companies are already cutting staff! Check the unemployment stats!
Buttttt…..
“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.
“Whatevvah!!! The messiah has spoken!
Like Chris… I get that tingle down my leg!!!
Warm and wet!

Posted by: Howard Ino | October 23, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Have the media and the Obama campaign learned nothing from their history books? Dewey vs Truman ring any bells? I will also be among those that stay up election night laughing as the results come in. It will be funny to see the media squirm in their “paid to the Obama campaign to report news” seats as he loses and then concedes.
On a serious note, EVERY American should be VERY concerned that Obama has let his ego run amok and all but claimed that he is president. If he’ll do this during an election when he is trying to impress us, what will he do when it doesn’t matter anymore?

Posted by: Nita Realhero | October 23, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

Craig S wrote:
“Bottom line: the Republicans have made an unmittigated mess around the world and at home. They deserve to be thrown out”
Reality Check writes:
Agreed they all, Republicans and Democrats alike, deserve to be thrown out.
The question is:
Do my children and grand children deserve what will happen, or worse yet, might happen,
If we reward the Democrats with Absolute Power and tell them we are so stupid that we think they are not as responsible for our being in this situation with the Economy as the Republicans.
Democratic Senators Dodd and Obama are the two biggest takers of bribes ( OH excuse me – campaign contributions ) from the WALL Street/Banking/Real Estate Sector over the past 10 years.
And Obama is he just an honest socialist who believes in free elections even after he gets elected.
Is he truly interested in improving the United States within the current democratic Republic and it’s constitution.
Or is Obama something else.

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

“With all due respect, 9 out of 10 probably don’t undestand what the word “socialism” means. Bush just nationalized the banking system!!!”
Posted by: Craig S | Oct 23, 2008 8:18:46 AM
With all due respect, Craig, he did nothing of the sort. At worst, the rescue plan gives the government a seat at the corporate table. But, not controlling interest in any financial institution.
Now, I disagreed with the bailout plan, because being a firm believer in the free market, I hold to the tenet that those who make bone-headed business decisions should have to pay the consequences of those bad decisions — and that applies to borrowers and lenders alike. But, resorting to hyperbole does nothing to strengthen your argument. Your position also belies the fact that it is YOU who doesn’t understand what socialiam is.

Posted by: David B. | October 23, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

I’ll never understand why all the Obamabots are so enthralled with his speaking ability.
“We GOT a righteous wind at our back”???
That is not proper grammar. Good grief! He sure has you all duped. A charming snake oil salesman.
Vote for a tried and tested leader. Vote John McCain/Sarah Palin *08.

Posted by: Christine | October 23, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

The Neo-Cons are so completely misunderstood. Many of them support Obama publicly; the rest very likely do as well. The Neo-Cons want a New World Order and they know that Obama represents their best chance of finally bringing that to fruition.

Posted by: marylou | October 23, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

A “self righteous” wind. The straight faced lying express. What U.S. enemies are Obama/Bidens friends with to share their plans with Joe Biden for a created crisis that the US population won’t like?
Typical mainstream media bias. I think the fairness doctrine would hurt the mainstream media, especially PBS, if they truly had to follow the fairness doctrine. They would have to change 50% of their news coverage to be “50/50″.

Posted by: Brb | October 23, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

If that wasn’t clear – I get tired of seeing all Republicanslabeled Neo-Cons; nothing could be further from the truth.
Republicans aren’t Neo-Cons; Neo-Cons are a separate entity that heretofore saw Republicans as their best hope so dwelled within the Rep party. Now they see Obama as such.
Just as all Dems aren’t left-wing commies, but we all know the left-wing commies dwell in the Dem party.
Get it?

Posted by: marylou | October 23, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

I’m an immigrant from Russia. I grew up in Siberia in 1960-70-s, the prosperous period in USSR. Neither my parents nor I were Party elites and had no special privileges to get an apartment, a telephone, a car etc. To give it to us would be decided by a few Communist Party demagogues on their subjective opinion regarding how hard and productive we worked for USSR and therefore for the Communist party.
Based on the size of our family, two parents and child, the government gave us a one room apartment that consists of a single room, 18 sq. yards, used as a bedroom, living room, and storage. The only other rooms were a bathroom and a kitchen, where I had to sleep. Lucky we had an apartment, since many families had to wait sometimes for twenty years to get one.
Since government controlled food production and distribution each person had special ration cards to buy in the local store 2 lb of meat or 1 lb of processed meat products per month, and 8 oz of butter.
During Yeltsin reign, in the early 1990′s, taxes on business were significantly increased resulting in great decrease in production. Inflation hit 2000%. Sugar, eggs, salt, detergent, soap, vodka and even matches were also distributed through the ration cards. I was an engineer then. I remember having nothing to eat but bread and spaghetti. Shelves in the stores were completely empty. My mother, teacher, and her doctor friend were in the same situation. Nobody talked of poverty. We were all equal.
After I was fortunate to immigrate to US I was surprised how many people here whine about hardship of living and believed in a socialistic utopia. The question “Why?” is always on the back of my mind.
Looks like after Soviets were defeated by Reagan a lot of people fell asleep and let communists come to their back yard in the clothes of liberal media and education system, with promises of free healthcare and education — with ideas to make irreversible change “…from the lies, falsehood and hypocrisy of …democracy for the rich — and establish democracy for the poor…” (Quote Marx and Engels)
If we will follow this road everyone will be poor.
I guess I understand the liberal elite in D.C, they would revel in power. But local news paper reporters, or teachers? In socialist society they would be defeated and silenced first.
I want to scream that socialism was never about equality. To quote Lenin the socialism is “dictatorship of proletariat “, but in the end it is just a dictatorship.
Why so many people forget that freedom of individuality and enterprise all encompassed in the genius of capitalism makes this country great! Why so many do not realize that they live in the cleanest and most prosperous country in the world? Do you really want the government to decide how the necessities of life should be rationed or how big your home should be? Do you really believe that somebody in government can “spread the wealth around” fairly? I don’t. I’ve been there before! Also I don’t want that my children and grandchildren would live as I did with no way out. USA is only haven of freedom from government left in the world.

Posted by: zina | October 23, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Christine is criticizing Obama’s language ability and telling us to vote for Palin? She makes Bush look like a Rhode schollar.
Throw the bums out.

Posted by: craig s | October 23, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Righteous wind? More like a dry desert wind that shrivels everything in its path. Read what Zina has to say in her previous post. She knows what she’s talking about.

Posted by: Dee | October 23, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Bunker down…we are in for some hard times the next 4 years if Obama takes the electiona and the liberals the congress. The dumming down of America has arrived. Sheep to the slaughter. The conservative movement will be stronger than ever after the next four years of socialism. Maybe the Mayans are right about 2012 being the end. We are about to take a dangerous path. History will repeat itself.

Posted by: Patula | October 23, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Craig S., no one is falling over themselves, drooling over Sarah Palin’s handle on the English language. How many times have I seen in the press “Barack Obama is such an eloquent speaker”?
Uh, um, uh, um…spare me!
John McCain/Sarah Palin *08 ~ real people, with real ideas!

Posted by: Christine | October 23, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Let’s also not forget this will be the most corrupt election in the History of America, thanks to Obama and his “non” friends” or non-acquantices”.
Show us a valid birth certificate.
Show us where your donations are coming from.
Show us your record in congress. Oh yeah, I forgot yours is “present”.
Obama first, America second.

Posted by: Patula | October 23, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

The Democrats are like the Sith from Star Wars…closet tyrants hiding in the shadows and holding back their true agenda (although we see glimpses of it!) until they achieve ultimate power.
Obama is like Emperor Palpatine.
He…and THEY…must be stopped or we will lose our republic.

Posted by: Toby | October 23, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

The wind is going to blow hard and many will fall. When the Chosen One brings our economy to its knees, many if not a large majority of the members of the mainstream press will be managing fat mongering McDonalds or cleaning the Larry Craig memorial toilet stall to make a living. I, for one, won’t be leaving a tip but I will enjoy it.

Posted by: Winds of Change | October 23, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Yesterday, I saw a bumper sticker with the official Obama logo that had the “Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a govenor”.
Now we see this “rightous wind” comment from Obama…along with other religious reference type quotes from time to time…and of course, the various groups that “sing odes to Obama”…
I’m starting to wonder…does he really think he is some sort of “Powerful One”…
Is anyone else getting just a teeny bit creeped out by this?
Scary…

Posted by: Michelle | October 23, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Whatever else one may say, Obama IS an eloquent speaker. I suspect he may have used “got…” as purposeful slang.
Throw the bums out, don’t reward incompetence. Bush et al have destroyed the Republican Party and Republicans should be angry. Accept the upcoming HUGE loss as necessary medicine, purge the Party,regroup and come back stronger that ever. Listen to Noonan, Buckley, etc and act accordingly. If Republicans let the Palins have undue influence, the Party is doomed to obscurity for a long, long, time.Send Sarah back to Wasilla.

Posted by: craig s | October 23, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Read and listen to what Zina (immigrant from Russia) says below!
She recognizes Obama for what he is!
You’re absolutely right, Zina!!

Posted by: Toby | October 23, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

If only W had listened to his father, Thatcher, Scowcroft and all of the other people with worldly experience and a sense of history. Or, having blundered into Iraq anyway, listened to his generals instead of firing them. He gave Bremmer the Medal Of Honor???

Posted by: craig s | October 23, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

What a beautiful post from Zina below. You really understand what Obama is all about, communism. That is why I can’t stand to hear him speak. To see people react to him like sheep to the slaughter is scary. Elect him and give the democrats a supermajority and this could be a communist contry in 4 years.

Posted by: gsb | October 23, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

WOW!! I haven,t seen this much fear and hatred since the civil rights movement in the sixties

Posted by: mandinkawarrior | October 23, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

bender, your simple question was:
“A simple question for Obama fans: if GOP policies were so terrible, why is it the DOW average climbed from 8000 in March 2003, to 14,000 in October 2007?”
the answer is just as easy: false economy based upon the typical republican policies of “borrow and spend”, and deregulation. oh yeah, an unnecessary war thrown in for good measure also helps.
i agree w/everyone who says things will be terrible w/obama in power. thanks to the mess started w/reagan, aided by clinton, who was democrat in name only, but a republican in disguise, and w/the coupe-de-grace being these last 8 years of dubyah; no matter *WHO* gets elected this nov 4, things will be a terrible mess.
but, i would rather have someone in office that has a brain, has a clue, won’t just continue digging us deeper into this hole we’re in, and won’t continue with the fear-mongering, divisiveness and hate, that has been virtually 100% of the mccain/palin campaign. if mccain wins, joe the plumber deserves what he gets, dragging himself and those like him down the toilet, once again so stupid that he will vote against his own interests. and, one day the wealthy themselves may realize that if they continue this social welfare for the rich, there won’t be anyone left to be able to afford to support them in the manner to which they have grown so accustomed.
obama a socialist? lol!!! obama would be considered a right-wing candidate in any other free-world democracy on this planet.
doug s.

Posted by: doug s. | October 23, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Nahhhh! Its just you farting Obama after digesting the $600 million in campaign contributions. Anyone ready to hazard a guess at how much of all this ends up in some secret offshore account?
Obama – history of the worlds most successful panhandler.

Posted by: Robert NYC | October 23, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

“Righteous wind at our backs”?
Sorry to drudge up Enlightenment age philosophy, but it sounds like Mr. Obama believes he’s the post-millenial American Zeitgeist.
Judging from the polls, he’s probably right.

Posted by: Abraxas | October 23, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

gsb…Obama is a communist??? I think Volker, Buffet and Powell may take issue with you on that.
Throw the bums out.

Posted by: craig s | October 23, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Michelle,
YES! VERY creeped out by Obama. He’s a scary Marxist. I just encourage you all go get out and vote for McCain (even if you don’t agree with all his policies — I sure don’t!).
I did not want McCain, but he’s a MILLION times better than Obama! At least McCain is not a Marxist.
Demo-commies and their weapons of mass media destruction…must be stopped if this country is to survive not only for our generation but for future generations!
Extreme liberalism must be dealt it’s death blow.

Posted by: Toby | October 23, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

doug s….you make sense.

Posted by: craig s | October 23, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

When Barrack talks about a “righteous winds at our backs”, I can’t help but think that this is why they are little disturbed by either allegations of fraud to get them into office (see: ACORN, et al) or by measures to quell free speech (see: “Fairness Doctrine”).
They are so convinced of their own self-righteousness, that nothing done in the name to achieve their goals, nor maintain their power is wrong. Thus Barrack continues to lay the groundwork for building on his cult-of-personality.

Posted by: sweetroscoe | October 23, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Lord help us all if our great country becomes socialist. I want to provide for my family. I don’t want the gov’t deciding how many tvs and cars I’m allowed to own. Obama is going to be a nightmare.

Posted by: Wysmom | October 23, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Obama Tells Virginia Supporters of ‘Righteous Wind At Our Backs’.
Naw, It’s just that Obama and Biden are sanctimonious gasbags!

Posted by: Al Cabal | October 23, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

All of our politicians are gasbags.
Throw the bums out.

Posted by: craig s | October 23, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Obama is an out and out con man and a blatant liar. You libs who are already redecorating the White House, ignore the so-called non-partisan polls of a whopping 1200 people (mostly libs), such as Zogby, ABC, NBC, and CBS that show Obama by 10 points. They’ve been in the tank for Obama from the start. If you look at the AOL poll, which is a far from conservative site, McCain is up by 10-12 points in a straw poll of 170,000 people!!! Not 1200 out of a hand picked population, but 170,000 likely voters! The AP has them tied. I guess they think if you tell the people something enough times, it’s got to be true. Keep wishing. The MSM may as well hang it up as far as credibility goes. I think Obama and his liberal minions should brace themselves for a loss and any store owners in NY and LA better board up their windows…how sad.

Posted by: Exlib | October 23, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

“I feel like we got”
Is this the vocabulary of an educated man or is it the vocabulary of a socialist community organizer? I say a socialist!

Posted by: RufusVonDufus | October 23, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Michelle, you said:
“Yesterday, I saw a bumper sticker with the official Obama logo that had the “Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a govenor”.
Now we see this “rightous wind” comment from Obama…along with other religious reference type quotes from time to time…and of course, the various groups that “sing odes to Obama”…
I’m starting to wonder…does he really think he is some sort of “Powerful One”…
Is anyone else getting just a teeny bit creeped out by this?”
no, i am not creeped out, i think it’s kinda funny, actually! what *REALLY* creeps me out is the religious beliefs of someone like sarah palin, who wears religion on her sleeve, who really believes the old testament and the new testament are factual historical accounts. just this past monday, in her interview w/that religious nut-case james dobson, sarah stated she is comfortable that mccain palin will win because of god’s will:
-God’s Will on Election Day: Dobson asks if she’s discouraged about the polls showing that McCain-Palin is behind:
“I am not discouraged at all, even hearing those poll numbers because, for some reason, I have found myself over and over again in my life being put in these underdog positions and yet still when victory needed to be reached in order to meet this greater good, it’s always worked out just perfectly fine despite the fact that over and over again I’ve been, and I know John McCain has been, in underdog positions. To me, it motivates us, makes us work that much harder and it also strengthens my faith because I’m going to know at the end of the day, putting this in God’s hands, that the right thing for America will be done, the end of the day on November 4th. ”
-Dobson says that he and other pastors have been praying to God for his intervention in the election: “We were just asking for, rather boldly asking, for a miracle with regard to the election this year..” Palin responded:
“We’ll be praying too for your ministry and for those pastors whom you have just mentioned also. Collectively, we can do all that we have within us to strengthen our country and to let Americans know that government has to be on their side, it’s their government and as we seek God’s wisdom and His will in this election, we have to have faith that it’s all going to be good at the end of the day there on November 4th as this country moves forward.”
this, to me is beyond creepy, it’s downright *FRIGHTENING*
doug s.,
oh lord, please save us from your followers…

Posted by: doug s. | October 23, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

“Righteous Wind”????? Good grief, Obama
IS a self proclaimed messiah. Some ego!
Along with his past shady associations and his promising “the moon” to the poor
and middle class (while sticking it to the “rich”….depending on who is considered “rich”)
While I do not agree with McCain on many things he is a far better choice
than Obama. I am VERY uncomfortable with Obama and the media declaring him
just about elected already. Hmmm. Maybe if Obama gets in he will change
the constitution along with the approval of the dem majority congress and endorsed by his sycophant media to
make himself “President For Life” Don’t fool yourself. It CAN happen here! Wake up, people!!!!!!

Posted by: littleleers | October 23, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

If “The One” gets elected President, to
paraphrase Michelle Obama; for the first
time in my life, I will be ashamed to be
an American! God help us all!

Posted by: Gary | October 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Toby,
Can you explain what proposals of Obama are marxist?
It is the republican party who has increased goverment spending and given the country a huge budget deficit. in fact the biggest move towards socialism in the history of the USA has happened under the republicans. believe not in what they say but what they do.
are americans really so stupid as to vote for a party that has been screwing the middle class over for 8 years and spending like drunken sailors just because they say they are responsible and believe in god?

Posted by: Fred | October 23, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

If “The One” gets elected President, to
paraphrase Michelle Obama; for the first
time in my life, I will be ashamed to be
an American! God help us all!
Posted by: Gary | Oct 23, 2008 10:33:43 AM
Actually, I think W made most of us feel that way already.

Posted by: d | October 23, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

The righteous wind is certainly a statement that Obama should correct. But all these claims about socialism is baloney since he is following the same policies that Clinton followed during the successful 90′s.
The logic is simple, if you agree with the economic policies of the 90′s then vote for obama else vote for McCain, although I feel McCain’s IQ is same as Bush (He ranked 5th from the bottom of the class..Guys dont ignore facts, and Plain is worse than she changed many schools to finish her graduation).
Just take notice what an incompetent president can do to this greatest nation on earth like what we are seeing now.
We need Smart and intelligent people to govern.
If you are smart vote for Obama.
A Smart American.

Posted by: Girish | October 23, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Many words have been spoken, but a few weeks it won’t matter when it all hits the fan.

Posted by: Paul Webster | October 23, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

fred, you asked:
“…are americans really so stupid as to vote for a party that has been screwing the middle class over for 8 years and spending like drunken sailors just because they say they are responsible and believe in god?”
c’mon, fred – it’s worked since 1980, not just the past 8 years. so, why not now? but, i, like you, hope folks are finally getting a bit of smarts…
doug s.

Posted by: doug s. | October 23, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

REGARDING THIS COMMENT from “Bob”
(see below comment)
Jesus told the rich man to “sell all you have and give to the poor.” He told his followers that it was harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.
Is Jesus a socialist? Did Jesus believe in redistributing the wealth. I don’t see any of McCain’s supporters doing this. It’s really ridiculous that McCain and Palin claim they are holy and Christian, and yet oppose tax policies that tax the rich to give to the poor. This is NOT what Jesus would do.
****
You are very naive to think McCain supporters aren’t “doing this.” Guess what? We don’t need the GOVERNMENT to tell us how to follow the BIBLE!!
I am a McCain supporter, and tithe to my church and other Christian organizations. (For those of you who don’t understand this, the Bible instructs to give 10% of our earnings to The Lord’s work). I do this joyfully and willingly.
The Bible does NOT instruct taxing bodies to take from people and redistribute at its will. “Free will” is a big part of the Bible.
If Obama supporters want to follow Jesus, there is no need for government bureaucracy to step in. Simply decide for yourself, and give money to your church or other good-will organizations.

Posted by: Alonzo | October 23, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Some of these anti-Obama rants are so utterly filled with warped misinformation. You honestly think he’s a socialist? Why? Because some overly made-up Fox News stripper (sorry, “anchor”) said so? For 95% of you, he’ll lower your taxes. Period. Grow a brain. And for the 5% of you who will see (slightly) higher taxes, guess what? We’re fighting two wars and are trillions in debt. Time to pay China (I mean, “the piper.”) This country voted Bush in twice – you reap what you sow. And for those that are scared because think Obama thinks he’s the Messiah, pay attention to what the candidates say – not what others say about them. Personally, I’ll take “We got a righteous wind at our backs here” over Palin’s ‘this is a war from God, God wants us to drill’ BS any day. I think we’ve had enough of leaders who claim to know what God wants/thinks. How dare they? And you Evangelicals that now decry Obama are the same ones that put Bush back in office in 2004 – -a man who made the unnecessary decision to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people for an unnecessary war in Iraq. I guess I could’ve simply summed up this whole post by saying you had your chance and blew it for all of us. Now shut up.

Posted by: Greg B | October 23, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

“First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.”
~Mohandas Gandhi
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: Chris | October 23, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Remember Snake Oil Salesmen?!!… with boisterous marketing hype, often supported by pseudo-scientific evidence, typically bogus. To enhance sales, an accomplice in the crowd (a “shill”) would often “attest” the value of the product in an effort to provoke buying enthusiasm.
Yep it’s the same folks.

Posted by: Michael | October 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

I think Zina has captured it all! Obama is a radical self serving politician who promotes marxism. This is not racist, he is very simply wrong for this country. Vote McCain Palin ’08!

Posted by: jt | October 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

I think Zina has captured it all! Obama is a radical self serving politician who promotes marxism. This is not racist, he is very simply wrong for this country. Vote McCain Palin ’08!

Posted by: jt | October 23, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Right you are Gary…More like self-righteousness with a double dose of arrogance. For all of you Children of Obama, you must not be old enough to remember Jim Jones and the People’s Temple. Google it. You sound just like those followers of their “Chosen One.”

Posted by: JRM | October 23, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Al Qaeda has endorsed John McCain, stating that McCain he would surly continue the Bush legacy of fighting the 2 wars until the U. S. has exausted all funds. Broke in other words. Basically say we’re idoiots for fighting war this long.
Barack is the change we so desperately need. Bush failed efforts and I can’t believe there are still willing to take chance of McCain doing the same.

Posted by: Cheffie | October 23, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Al Qaeda has endorsed John McCain, stating that McCain he would surly continue the Bush legacy of fighting the 2 wars until the U. S. has exausted all funds. Broke in other words. Basically say we’re idoiots for fighting war this long.
Barack is the change we so desperately need. Bush failed efforts and I can’t believe there are still willing to take chance of McCain doing the same.

Posted by: Cheffie | October 23, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

If McCain or Palin had said “There’s a righteous wind to our backs”, the media and the left would go crazy over their invoking religion into the campaign. But Obama invoking religion is just fine. Forget all the ranting and raving about separation of church and state, etc. If Obama wants to invoke religion to advance Socialism, then it’s okay by CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and the DNC!

Posted by: Unrighteous Comment | October 23, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

I feel like “we got” a righteous wind at our backs?
This is an example of Obama’s eloquent speech?
Well, at least he didn’t say “we gots”.

Posted by: GlobalObserver | October 23, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

shear water wrote:
I’m appalled that McCain would USE this private citizen knowing he would be thrust into the media – without even asking him.
And also appalled McCain would try to equate normal everyday plumbers with people being taxed for income over $250,000.
Everyday plumbers earn way less that that . ..and would not be hurt by Obama’s tax plan.
McCain grabbed onto this guy and basically fabricated at the guy’s expense. And then blamed it on the Democrats and the media!
WOW, how did you get a hold of Obama and Biden’s stump speech? This is a typical Obamaite that CAN NOT see the forest because of the trees. It doesn’t matter one iota what Joe The Plumber makes, it’s the fact that an average guy minding his own business asked a question and the Messiah, The One and the Prime F’ed up with his response and let the cat out of the bag on his Socialist ideals and man are you clowns pissed by that. What the left is now trying to do is totally destroy Joe The Plumber by attacking everything they can about the poor guy but unfortunately the damage (thank the good Lord) has been done, you can’t deflect this obvious gaffe, WE ALL KNOW WHAT OBAMA IS ALL ABOUT, NOW, SOCIALISM AT IT’S BEST!!!

Posted by: Frank | October 23, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

“First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.”
~Mohandas Gandhi
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: Chris | October 23, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

It’s ok. Obama was not invoking religion. He was using the alternative mid-80′s ebonics definition of “righteous”. As in, “Righteous, man!” At least he didn’t end the quote with “homey”.

Posted by: Scott M | October 23, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

It may be a stretch but “rightous wind” translates into Japanese as Kamakazi. Perhaps a premonition of what OB’s election might bring? Also, I agree with a previous post that Obama’s use of the English language is very marginal from a grammatical and syntax standpoint and certainly not what I would expect of a Harvard grad (Example: “me wanting to be here, vs “my wanting to be here” Noun clauses require the possessive–he should have learned this in 8th grade. Could social promotion through school be at play here?

Posted by: Eric B | October 23, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Obama is the culmination of 1960s radicalism. Good or bad? you decide.
Counselers of Obama:
David Ayers – 1960s Radical/terrorist
Reverend Write – Civil Rights Radical

Posted by: GroovyDude | October 23, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

McCain would never have received a pass for stating he had ‘righteous winds at our backs’. Was this reported anywhere in the mainstream media?
Those of you talking about al qaeda should realize that they have an agenda for everything they say. If you remember, they didn’t want Bush to win in the last election and put out a statement just before the election. Their remarks caused undecided voters to vote for Bush. Have you ever heard of reverse psychology? Well, that’s al qaeda’s ploy right now! They want Barack Obama to win the election.

Posted by: disgustedvoter | October 23, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

IF IF IF OBAMA WINS, I SHALL POST THE USNITED STATES FLAG AT HALF MAST, TO SHOW THE DEATH OF AMERICA

Posted by: joefatalaw | October 23, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

I believe Mr. Obama’s comment, “righteous
wind at our back” is strictly from scripture. I believe he is implying his campaign is having favor with the Lord.
The wind signifies the Holy Spirit leading the campaign and Obama has been
appointed by the Lord in this campaign.
I agree with Mr. Obama this change is channeled by God, the Holy Spirit.

Posted by: Teresa | October 23, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Why bother Frank trying to persuade the “Obama or Die” crowd? The wine is sweet and they are drunk on the euphoria. And just like the hangover that results from drinkin real wine in excess, the same outcome will hit these folks in a year or two when interest rates, inflation and unemployment reach historical heights.

Posted by: JRM | October 23, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Huseein Obama
is not a natural born citizen of the USA, he was born in Kenya. I will not vote for a Kenyan who masks himself as an American citizen, wants to CHANGE the words to the Star Spangled Banner, wants to CHANGE the Presidential logo to his own and claims he will CHANGE the world. The media is only inflating his already huge ego and allowing him to live his delusions of grandeur. Obama is only an illusion, it’s one big magic show and losing our freedoms will be what we see diappear.

Posted by: Zena | October 23, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

If the average Obama voter had actually been alive in the late 70′s to see the effects of a tax-and-spend economy, they’d shut their stupid mouths and vote for McCain. But Obama is counting on the infantile naivete of the average college student to rise to power.
Obama is essentially the evil twin of Jimmy Carter. Under Carter, inflation was 12.5% and interest rates were over 20%. We were headed for deep recession and the misery index was the worst it had been in decades.
Thank God Reagan came along. Do you brilliant students of history know how Reagan turned around Carter’s mess? He drastically cut supply-side taxes (that’s what Obama calls “tax cuts for the rich” for all you slow people). The result was increased investment in industry and an unprecendented boom in job growth (over 20 million new jobs were created during Reagan’s two terms). And here’s the kicker, for all you bleeding hearts that are afraid there wouldn’t be enough government revenue to pay for all your precious entitlement programs, government revenue INCREASED during Reagan’s administration.
History teaches us that tax CUTS improve the economy, increase revenue, and slow inflation. In other words, they make things better for everyone.
Tax increases only increase one thing — misery.
But then again, you’re Obama supporters. You’re not interested in facts or history.

Posted by: Scott M | October 23, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Actually,
if any of you ObamaFanatics did your homework, you would realize that the country was in GREAT shape 3 years ago. The interest rate was low, consumer confidence was high, people actually had money to spend, President Bush’s approval rating was high, even CONGRESS had a good approval rating. Why? Because it was a REPUBLICAN Congress. You idiots that are blaming Bush and the Republicans are too stupid and uninformed to realize that everything went downhill when the DEMOCRATS took over the Congress. They are the ones who started the whole housing/economic crisis by insisting that EVERYONE should be “allowed” to buy a home, even if they can’t afford it. Hmm, sounds familiar – sort of like “spread the wealth, so EVERYONE benefits”. That is what got us into trouble, and Obama wants MORE of it, not less.
Please do your own research, don’t blindly listen to what the Media has to say, or what the Democrats lie about. The only people who can scream about Obama’s plans being the best for our country are the ones who will benefit – by being handed everything on a platter so they don’t have to actually work for it. Believe it or not, the best way to have a strong country and economy is to encourage people to be independent and make their own way. They might not all start out with the same privileges, but this is the Land of Opportunity. There is no excuse for not making it here if you really want to. Immigrants (legal) come here every day and end up owning their own business, and are self sufficient, because they CHOOSE to be.
The Democrats don’t want you to be self-sufficient, they know you will always “support” them, if they are the ones “supporting” you. No one will bite the hand that is feeding them.
Do your own research, and realize that if you are out there working hard for your family, donating to issues if you choose to, and taking care of yourself, you don’t want to give everything you make to some other idiot who would rather sit on his porch with his buddies because it is easier. There is a reason a lot of young people are Democrats – they think the world needs to be a “better” place. Then when they grow up, they realize that the world IS a great place, and there will always be inequality, because people make those choices themselves. Then all of a sudden, they realize they are really Republicans!

Posted by: well-informed, voting McCain | October 23, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Let’s address whoever keeps posting this:
“First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.”
~Mohandas Gandhi
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
Ok, stop comparing Obama to Ghandi, it makes you look like an idiot, and only proves the point that Obama supporters think he’s some kind of Christ figure. You’re drinking the kool-aid guys. And when you wake up, you won’t be in some Utopia. You will actually… be several steps down the road socialism which will ruin our country. We aren’t France.

Posted by: Nobama | October 23, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

No they’re not interested in the history Scott M. And it’s not just the young college crowd. A lot of folks born roughly 1965 or later only know that Carter was just an old white guy that was president awile back.

Posted by: JRM | October 23, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Please. EVERYONE knows that AlQaeda, Iran, Chavez, Castro, Putin and all the thugs and tinpot dictators of the world want an Obama presidency because an Obama presidency will mean a WEAK AMERICA.
This story reeks of total BS spun by the left leaning AP who know that terrorists supporting Obama doesn’t look good for him and might open people’s eyes to vote for McCain. Man, are these democrat liberals paranoid or what? Atheists always live in fear.
Of all the jihadist websites that support Obama they found this lone one buried somewhere saying they want McCain. And they don’t even know who posted the message.
I wish AP would put as much effort into looking into Obama and his background and previous connections. But don’t bet on it.
Obama’s candidacy is one giant con perpetrated on the American people by the forces of evil.
Sounds crazy? You bet.
9/11 also sounded crazy, until it happened

Posted by: Samo | October 23, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Yes, yes, yes. The democrats encouraged early sub-prime lending. They threw some sand on the beach. But it’s the Republicans who built finanical castles on it. Learn the difference, please, so-called “informed” McCain voters.

Posted by: ThomasJWhite | October 23, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Ugh…I can’t say anything more…if a republican said anything like this, he would be criticized to no end.

Posted by: Wade | October 23, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

For all of you Obama zombies, remember this: WE TOLD YOU SO!
I’m saying that now in the event this smug, arrogant, inexperienced, most leftist leaning Senator in history is elected. Those of us who love our country and will do anything to see our liberties, freedoms and beloved country not go down the road to Socialism and damnation are trying to warn you. And yet you do not understand what is at stake.
Here are some things to think about:
1. Obama has promised/pledged a $3,000.00 tax credit for companies that hire someone. How long do you think that employee will be employed once that magical $3,000.00 tax offset is met and both production and sales have not increased one iota?
2. Obama has promised to give a tax break to the middle class. But none of you Obama robots have been told by Obama or Biden or anyone else on his campaign what they consider to be the middle class. Further, it is impossible to give ONLY the middle class a tax break. There are folks who pay no taxes whatsoever simply because of their income. So how is a middle class tax cut going to benefit those people?
3. Obama has said he wants to “spread the wealth.” What does that mean? None of you Obama puppets have asked or heard him answer the question. Here’s what it means: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Sounds nice. Seems innocent. But who said that? Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto. It means to take from the rich and give to anyone else determined not to be rich. Now, I’m not wealthy, but make decent money. I know some who have a lot more than I do and some who have a lot less. In Obama’s and Karl Marx’s minds, government should take whatever a man like Bill Gates has and give to street people. I’d love to have the money Mr. Gates has, but he is the one who took the initiative to form his company. He invested, built, hired, and worked tirelessly to arrive at his position. So why should anyone be “entitled” to his money? Neither should anyone be “entitled” to my money just because they make less than me or live in a smaller house than I do. That, my addle-pated friends is what Obama’s ultimate goal is.
4. Obama has promised Universal Health Care. Since we all should know that Universal Health Care will have a cost, who do you think is going to pay for it? That’s right: you and me.
5. Obama has promised he’ll create jobs. Here’s a news flash for you: the President has no power or ability to create jobs. Only corporations and small businesses can create jobs. Given that Obama has made it very clear he doesn’t give a hoot about corporations, how and where are the jobs going to come from?
6. Obama has promised change because a Democrat will be in the White House and with a Democratically controlled Congress great things can be accomplished. Here’s another news flash: the Democrats have been in control in both Houses and they’ve been able to do nothing except saddle us with huge tax burdens. Incidentally, Congress’ approval rating hovers in the 9% to 12% range right now. And that’s your Democratically controlled Congress for you. Change? What’s going to change? The amount of money you’re going to have left IF Obama is elected President because he’s already let it be known that he is going to lobby to push through an additional $1.2 trillion in spending – this is over and above the $700 billion bailout.
You have to or should ask yourself, where is all this money coming from?
If you can’t answer that or have deceived yourself into thinking that money grows on trees or that Obama will find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow or that all will be peace and joy and happiness and bliss IF he gets elected President, then you are blind and incapable of independent thought.
Obama has made tons of promises, but the reality is that the only thing that will happen is that we will goosestep into Socialism and there will be havoc such as we’ve not seen.
Step up and fight this man’s ambitions with every fiber of your being. He is a deceitful, lying, empty-headed, smooth-talking snake oil salesman.
VOTE FOR McCAIN – PALIN TO GIVE OUR COUNTRY A FIGHTING CHANCE.

Posted by: Walter S. | October 23, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Firstly Virginia is a commonwealth. I am glad that while campaigning in “Maryland/DC South” Obama thought he was getting a feel for Virginia b/c McCain’s adviser was right the rest of Virginia is much closer to Virginia historically. DC, Arlington, and other parts of the Washington bubble do not hold the same views and/or values as most Virginians.

Posted by: "Real" Virginian | October 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

This might get a bit ranty, and I’m sorry, but I’ve got to laugh at most of the Republican posters on here. See, I was a Republican until the bail-out. A seriously conservative, life-long Republican. That bail-out forced me to finally, ahem, bail out. I was probably already on my way for a lot of other reasons, but that massive transfer of wealth was the last straw.
Obama’s a Marxist? Obama’s a socialist? Where have you people been the past eight years?
The Republican party has become CORPORATIST. That is to say, it expressly favors a melding of the state with corporations–hence the bail-out. Corporatism is every bit as evil and un-American and big government as Marxism or socialism or communism. EVERY BIT. And let’s not forget the enormous transfers of taxpayer money to FOREIGN NATIONS, billions of dollars to ungrateful countries like Iraq and Georgia and Pakistan, dollars that balloon the debt while we can’t even afford to take care of roads at home or adequately defend our borders.
And you’re mad Obama’s going to give some money to poor folks in America? YOU SUPPORT GIVING MONEY TO PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES! Is your spending somehow better because you borrow from China instead of raising taxes? In what possible way is that better? In what possible way is that fiscally responsible?
You whine and moan about how extreme Obama is, but Obama is precisely what gets elected when you’ve been busy tearing down the country for eight years. The people who stood idly by and let Mr. Bush pervert Republican ideology are directly responsible for Obama’s coming election because Republicanism has been poisoned by the taint of Mr. Bush’s version of “conservatism.”
The irony, of course, is that you will ultimately come to “blame Bush” for this fiasco because, in the end, he’s the one who’s led us to this point. And you know it deep down. He’s the one who’s made sure Obama will be the next President. Mr. Bush is not running against Obama, but you guys sure as heck aren’t running away from Mr. Bush. I did a long time ago, and so did a lot of other reliably Republican voters who care more about the country than the party.
Had you stuck to principle instead of party loyalty–a concept completely alien to the people you worship on talk radio and Fox News–we might have been able to salvage the party and put it back on course. Now I fear it could be lost forever, destined for whatever political netherworld the Whigs call home. You seem not to care, though. You’d rather not admit you were wrong about Mr. Bush and the policies you stubbornly supported. You’d rather focus your energies on things like Obama’s birth certificate and rumors of his hidden Muslim background, and mix in a bit of thinly-veiled racism to rile the base. Frankly, with the amount of sheer ignorance displayed by Republicans this election, folks should be embarrassed to even identify as “Republican” today.
None of this means I’m voting for Obama or becoming a Democrat. Far from it. But I’m in no way voting for McCain. I’ve left the Republican party, and I’m not going to reward the idiocy of the current leadership and the rank-and-file members with control of the presidency for four more years. I’m done voting for the “lesser of two evils,” but the truly sad thing is this: At this point in time, the Democratic candidate has become the lesser of two evils–and I never thought I’d actually say that.
Rant over.

Posted by: gb8898 | October 23, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

So now the Great one (with apologies to the late, great jackie Gleason) has decided that he knows what God thinks? Wow, he CAN top his own arrogance. Didn’t think it was possible. Get a clue Obama’s Ostrichs, the guy’s not going to keep his promises. When you finally realize the truth, you’ll be gnashing your teeth and tearing at your hair while the rest of us chant,”Told ya’ so, told ya’ so!” BTW, Ziggy, good one!

Posted by: Gobnait | October 23, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Weird

Posted by: Beats Me | October 23, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Obama is just plain Weird. Like some kind of a Nut House Freak trying to gain social acceptance.

Posted by: Foo Dog | October 23, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

GB8898,
Believe me, I COMPLETELY understand how you feel about the party. I’m right there with you.
BUT: The situation this time, I believe, truly demands you come out and vote against Obama. This guy is a radical and must be kept out of the White House.
Besides, don’t you have some local people to vote for as well?
Again, I COMPLETELY feel your pain with regard to the Republican party…I just BEG you to come out and vote against Obama. He’s too dangerous to give the helm of the country to!

Posted by: Toby | October 23, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

We can elect two know ethics violators like Palin and McCain or we can elect a good and intelligent Christian like Barack Obama. You decide. I know a good man when I see one and it is Barack Obama.

Posted by: TxCatholic | October 23, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

Please answer this question….If, as the media and all the Obama followers say, the election is wrapped up and in the bag, WHY, does he still keep running political ads? Also, WHY all of a sudden, she has been ill for some time, leave all behind to see the Grandmother, BUT, still campaign? Could this trip have anything to do with the so-called “birth certificate” issue for Obama, say to ENSURE it reads born in the USA?

Posted by: Lars | October 23, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

“My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: [and] meddle not with them that are given to change.” – Proverbs 24:21

Posted by: Ryan | October 23, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Palin excites the base? If race baiting, red baiting and breaking ethics laws excite the base then that tell us all we need to know about McCain’s base followers…..

Posted by: TxCatholic | October 23, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

We can elect two ethics violators like Palin and McCain or we can elect a good, intelligent, Christian like Barack Obama. You decide. I know a good man when I see one and it is Barack Obama.

Posted by: TxCatholic | October 23, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

As I read these comments, I can feel the hate for the republicans for democrats. How can you not be willing to chenge after the last eight years? Just as we had democrats for Reagan, why can’t have republicans for Obama?
I f you can put Bush in office for iehg years, surely you can give the most intelligent candidate (Obama) for president a chance.

Posted by: Hello Obama | October 23, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Beware when anyone uses the term righteous. I feel it is an excuse to do anything.
Also, I’ve started calling Senator Obama ‘H’, like Bush being called ‘W’.
I mean, Obama’s middle name is his name, right?
LBJ, RFK, JFK and my main man Milhouse all use three name monikers. Senator Obama should be proud of his name. So, please, take up the ‘H’ moniker and in perhaps 4year, Oliver Stone will direct a movie called ‘H’. But don’t be on it.

Posted by: PeterG | October 23, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

TxCatholic: I am a Catholic too, but I doubt that you are one, as apparently you’ve forgotten B.O. supports partial birth abortions. Talk about a MAJOR ethics problem there. If you think B.O. is a “good Christian”, I suggest you check out who he pals around with. BTW- Palin was cleared of the charges. Her brother-in-law was actually a turd.

Posted by: Communist B.O. | October 23, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

I am amazed to see comments here affirming that the Obama campaign is approved by “The Lord” with the “Holy Spirit” being the wind at his back. The only way I would even consider that is if I thought God was steering us toward judgement. How can anyone look at Obama and believe that God approves of his policies?
He is not the Messiah. There is only one and He came to fix something greater than broken government. If people would understand what Christ came to do, they would stop looking to people for salvation.
I am really having a hard time not wretching my guts out at some of the things I have heard stated by Obama and his supporters in this campaign.
I will admit one thing. He is the second coming. Second coming of Marx and Jimmy Carter. Both were very bad for the world, Obama will be no different.

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Why do you people continue to demonize the candidates?
I can somewhat understand demonizing McCain because he voted with Bush over 90% of the time and bragged about it, and Bush basically lined the pockets of his oil, banking and military/industrial complex buddies while embarassing the country internationally – and he totally BANKRUPTED the country with abusive spending of the public’s money.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

NOBAMA in VA

Posted by: Shotgun Willie | October 23, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Righteous wind?
That was me just belching when I heard The Messiah spew his Socialist B.S. word for word, same freaking speech day in and day out! If I hear The One And The Prime say “The Middle Class” or “Bush’s failed policies” one more friggin’ time I’m gonna do more than belch. If your going to recite the same boring speech every time you open your mouth at least change the words some!

Posted by: Frank | October 23, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

A righteous wind or just hot air?

Posted by: Andrew | October 23, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

pefros : You seem confused. The only real lies were told by YOUR candidate B. Hussein Obama. Just check out his speeches; he’ll say anything to get elected. Here’s an important example, concerning Bill Ayres, unrepentant terrorist: “He’s just some guy down the street.” Comes out later that Obama started his campaign in his living room. And, if you doubt that, Ayres funneled money to Obama’s CAC group, which received an “F” for its attempt to improve education in Chicago. Probably because the money was funneled to ACORN instead. Now THAT’s SCANDAL!!!!

Posted by: Communist B.O. | October 23, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Pefros… you can’t see why people are demonizing candidates and then you demonize republican candidates? Pot calling the kettle black there?
How about how Obama has not been up front in the least about his Marxist associations, starting with his father and all the way through his life?
If a man deflects and outright lies to the American people about his past, it speaks to how trustworthy he will be regarding OUR future.
I am not going to demonize the man, I just don’t trust him and refuse to vote for him.
is that too complicated?

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

Posted by gneubeck
Regarding “Jawbone” Biden’s comment about our enemies testing an inexperienced Obama: The average American may not have been tracking Obama’s vows: “to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren.”; but, our foreign adversaries certainly have. For an individual who aspires to be their Commander-In-Chief, how will Obama explain his Senate votes to force our military members into an ignominious defeat in Iraq; and, to deny funding for equipments essential to their survival for the young men and women whom they had “previously” voted to commit to lethal combat. A despicable breach of trust with those Military members laying their lives on the line in defense of our Nation. The neurosis of the liberal mindset defies rational explanation. Surely members of “The Greatest Generation” who demanded total victory over the Fascists of WW II, must hang their heads in shame when they witness the American Left of today cowering before the modern day threat of Islamofacism! Obama is our “home-grown” version of Hugo Chavez. His comments that he would cut tens-of-billions from Defense spending; and, halt the U.S. military’s development of advanced weapons systems demonstrates a profound ignorance of the geopolitical threat environment confronting America. His long-term subversive associations, and his immersion in seditious anti-American diatribe have indeed revealed Obama as the real-life Manchurian Candidate. Obama would most certainly follow the disastrous Foreign Policy examples of Jimmy Carter in pursuing relations with our avowed enemies, only much worse. Political charlatan, Obama, has convinced his robotic cult followers that he can meet with Ahmejinedad without precondition; and, that the Iranian Islamofacist will experience a now infamous Obama epiphany and conversion to righteousness; and, “There Will Be Peace In Our Time”. This is the very same Neville Obama who, because he frequently babbles incoherently when attempting to speak without a prepared text, is terrified of being exposed by meeting John McCain in a simple Town-Hall Forum. And now we learn from Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari that, while on his public relations excursion to Iraq, Obama attempted to convince the Iraqi leadership to delay ANY withdrawal agreement until an installation of an Obama Administration so he could take credit for the implementation of such an agreement. A clear act of treason that should be prosecuted. God help us if the majority of Americans are beguiled by this novice circus comic, who has never before performed under the “Big Tent”; and, the peddling of his “Magic Elixir ” that Obama has claimed will “Heal The Planet”. Greg Neubeck

Posted by: Greg Neubeck | October 23, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Well the thing is ‘marxist associations’ is a vague accusation,
Palin really lied about the Troopergate Report (“They completely cleared me of any abuse of power” – a direct lie), and about the “Bridge to Nowhere” where she pretended she led the charge to stop the bridge and return the people’s hard-earned money – when really Congress stopped it and she then tagged along, and she kept all the money.
Lying directly about things so recent seems a bit demonic and stupid.
Is this too complicated?

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Poor grammar. It’s ‘have a righteous wind’ , not ‘got a righteous wind’.

Posted by: Rob | October 23, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

The Republicans have had 8 years in the White House with 6 of those holding both Congress and the Senate – and what a mess they’ve made!
You people on here attempting to use Obama’s middle name to smear him are just not going to have success. The American people can see through these Rove tactics.
The Republicans had power and they made a mess. 8 year was enough! The Republicans will be voted out of presidential office.
Democrats will win by a landslide. And good riddance to the Republicans and the last 8 years!
Too many lies, too much overspending, too much government – and bad government at that.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Thank you gb8898 for your post. Though I’d be lying to say that I’m not a liberal, it has been a hard election cycle listening to Republicans make little to no sense…with the economy collapsing and their blessed Bush going socialist, it’s maddening to hear Ayer’s name brought up and even moreso to hear questions about Obama’s birth certificate, Islamic persuasions, and the whole slew of other inane banter. There are very REAL issues to examine in this election, but they’re not being talked about. It’s sad….no, pathetic.
You and I likely wouldn’t agree on a lot of issues but that’s okay…that’s what makes America great. But it does lift me up to finally hear *someone* who disagrees with me actually state what is so obviously wrong with the Republican party.
Of course, if it weren’t for the throngs who are scared that Obama’s a Muslim or he wasn’t born stateside, or who just really like Palin’s glasses, McCain would be polling 3%.

Posted by: kyle | October 23, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Toby: Sorry–still not voting for McCain. I honestly don’t think he’d be any better than Obama. Not at all. I don’t know why so many people are still fooled into thinking the two parties are all that different. All I hear from Republicans on most of these blogs is just regurgitated talking points they’ve heard from Rush or Hannity. Do some of your own research for a change.
It’s all a power game, folks. All the parties do is fight to retain or gain power. That’s why we have a virtual non-stop election now. And how do the parties try to get elected? By promising to spend money on stuff: healthcare, energy, foreign military aid, wars, etc. No matter how much they say they’ll “cut,” they always want to spend on something else.
The problem is, WE’RE BANKRUPT. As a nation, we simply can’t afford to live as we’ve been living. We can’t afford all the healthcare, all the subsidies for oil/ethanol/alternative energy, all the billions to Israel/Iraq/etc., all the full-scale military adventures to root out people who hate us for interfering in their countries. WE JUST CAN’T AFFORD IT.
But that’s not stopping the Republican party or the Democratic party from promising us all kinds of new stuff. Why? Because it wins elections! The electorate is supremely ignorant of the monetary system and how it works.
And so, might I add, are both political parties. Which is why you get finger-pointing regarding the current financial mess. The truth is, BOTH PARTIES CAUSED IT. Democrats wanted more people in houses (so did Bush–there’s an interview from 2002 where he specifically states as much), and Republicans wanted to find exciting new ways to game the system to make tremendous sums of money in the market (that’s why the root cause lies with mortgage-backed securities, but that’s another discussion entirely).
Eventually, this house of cards is going to come crashing down. Everyone will blame everyone else, but the fact is our government–led by the morons in both political camps–have practically ensured the demise of our nation.
So ask me again why I’m not voting for McCain. ;)

Posted by: gb8898 | October 23, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

why even bother with an election, B.O.has already crowned himself. and he has millions from his campaign to put in his own personal bank account, while real americans are hurting out their, does he feel their pain too. America wake up!

Posted by: pnp1707 | October 23, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

GB8898,
You’re not going to see me give a rah-rah speech for McCain. And I agree with you — there’s not much difference between the two parties anymore. You’re an intelligent person…and your rationale is CERTAINLY valid.
BUT — Obama is dangerous. McCain has some socialistic tendencies as well — but I can sleep comfortably knowing he’s NOT a Marxist.
Obama is a different animal. He’s dangerous and not to be trusted. If nothing else, look at the company he keeps.
I may not be able to convince you to vote against Obama, but I have a feeling you will regret it as much as I if he gets in the White House.
Again, I beg you…don’t let that mistake occur!

Posted by: Toby | October 23, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

8 years of Republicans in the White House was certainly enough. They had their chance – and look at the mess!
Americans may be gullible but they’re not going to put up with that nonsense for another 8 years.
And your fear and smear tactics just aren’t working – you Republicans blew it when you had power.
America will vote for Democrats by a landslide.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

to gb8898: hey buddy, when we want someone to tell us the truth, we’ll ask for it!!! Meantime, keep commonsense and rationality out of it.
(by the way the only other interesting post on this list of so-called “comments” came from Dorothea last evening. Very interesting, thank you.

Posted by: NeauOne | October 23, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Boy, he likes to talk about “wind” alot. A quote from his book is “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift”.
NEVER OBAMA…..let the wind blow him right outta here.
Why isn’t he on a plane to granny under the bus, anyway?

Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | October 23, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

That’s not a righteous wind, it’s that wind bag Biden heating up the climate with his worthless bloviating again….and again…..and again!

Posted by: USMC1833 | October 23, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Obamba = Socialism, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Posted by: Ted | October 23, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

8 years of Republicans in the White House was certainly enough. They had their chance – and look at the mess!
Americans may be gullible but they’re not going to put up with that nonsense for another 8 years.
And your fear and smear tactics just aren’t working – you Republicans blew it when you had power.
America will vote for Democrats by a landslide.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Eight years of a Republican Presidency and the U.S.A. is in one hell of a mess.
Sorry McGrumpy. Ya should have challenged Bush from within the Party for the 2004 nomination. Furthermore, you should have selected Mitt Romney as your V.P. this time around. Ya blew it.

Posted by: Marty | October 23, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

perfos said, yet again!
The Republicans have had 8 years in the White House with 6 of those holding both Congress and the Senate – and what a mess they’ve made!
Keep reading from the script, perfos, just like The One and the Prime has taught you. When you get an ACTUAL thought of your own let us know

Posted by: Frank | October 23, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

These are my thoughts Frank. You are the one who has been brainwashed not to see what is obvious.
8 years of Republicans in the White House was certainly enough. They had their chance – and look at the mess!
Americans may be gullible but they’re not going to put up with that nonsense for another 8 years.
And your fear and smear tactics just aren’t working – you Republicans blew it when you had power.
America will vote for Democrats by a landslide.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

There are really only two legitimate reasons to vote for McCain and they are Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. I don’t think the wind behind them has an iota of righteousness.
As for McCain vs. Obama ideology, it’s a question of who throws the most non-existent money into the deflated bubble in an attempt to reinflate it.
Does it make sense to reinflate the bubble? Think, literally, think (thanks, Joe Biden!) about it.

Posted by: Kriuk | October 23, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Democratic programs such as: Community Reinvestment Act, Affordable Housing for everyone brought us the Mortgage Meltdown. Socialism, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Posted by: Ted | October 23, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

8 more years! 8 years was not enough! We want MORE! Vote Republican! 8 more years!

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

What if they threw an election and nobody came?

Posted by: navy island | October 23, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

8 years of Republicans in the White House was certainly enough. They had their chance – and look at the mess!
Americans may be gullible but they’re not going to put up with that nonsense for another 8 years.
And your fear and smear tactics just aren’t working – you Republicans blew it when you had power.
Need I say more!? :)

Posted by: Frank | October 23, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Toby: No matter who wins, I’ll be disappointed. McCain would suck; Obama would suck.
So really… why should I vote for either of them? Call me idealistic, but I’d prefer a clear conscience. There are other candidates out there, you know.
Libertarian, Constitution, Green, whatever.
Stop voting for Democrats and Republicans, folks. They’re two wings on the same vulture that’s taking us all on one big nose-dive.

Posted by: gb8898 | October 23, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

GB8898,
I really could not agree with you more. Both parties have left the foundation of the Constitution a long time back. The Republicans severed their ties around the year 2000.
I have long been frustrated with the two party system. Maybe, when your stated “house of cards” comes down, we can have a restructuring of the political parties.
At this point, the way I see it is Democrats give their party what they want and Republicans give their party what the Democrats want.
I do see a difference between McCain and Obama in that Obama is far more socialistic. I have been a McCain critic for years, as he has been an affront to the Constitution/Bill of Rights. But as a true conservative I just can’t vote for Obama.
Fred Thompson ’12!

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

The cheese is always free…in the mousetrap. Remeber that in the voting booth…

Posted by: Sagi | October 23, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Remember the last 8 years of Republicans in the White House when you’re in the voting booth.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

MOPE LIKE A DRAFT OF HOT AIR AT OUR BACKS!
If “Obama automatons” don’t stop and come to their senses, but continue to be hype-notized and blinded by the exaggerations, promises and slick talk coming from their near Messiah, than we all will have to kiss democracy and our pocket books goodbye. I see the writing on the wall, all of Obama’s utopian plans will be dropped if he is elected to office and he will look to place blame for his inabilities on the conservatives who he professes cause all the problems.
King Obama seeking Messiahship!
Farrakhan professes Obama to be the Messiah! What more can I say?
“Obamatons of the world unite”

Posted by: The Patriot | October 23, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

GB8898,
All voting for a third party candidate would do is HAND the election to the Marxist.
I support the concept of a third party, but right now — today (like or hate it)– this is a TWO-PARTY nation.
So, with that in mind you either vote for the less evil or sit it out.
I can’t consciously sit it our or throw the White House to Obama by voting third party.
I’ll do that sometime when the stakes aren’t as high as they are in this one.

Posted by: Toby | October 23, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

To those who say what a mess the Republicans have us in… Democrat party took over Congress 2 years ago…. how was the economy prior to that? How were gas prices prior to that?

Posted by: JohnM | October 23, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

John it was the Bush Republican administration that ran up the HUGE deficits that have almost completely bankrupt the United States . .. not the Democrats.
The last administration to balance the budget was a Democratic administration under ‘that radical’ Clinton.
Republicans have had their chance. Democrats will win by a landslide.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

I WILL JUST USE SOME COMMON SCENSE WHEN I AM IN THE VOTING BOOTH!
Not prudent to resurrect Karl Marx or Vladimir Lenin when voting for a president of the United States.

Posted by: The Patriot | October 23, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Grandson throws grandmother under the bus calling her ‘typical white person’ full of fear of ‘black people’ like the folk in Pennsylvania clinging to their guns and religion fearful of a black man who wants to rule them, wants to raise taxes everywhere: pay check, capital gains, small businesses, at death, at inheritance; onerous tax hikes on guns and ammunition; sign an Abortion On Demand “Freedom of Choice” Act written by Pelosi and Boxer(to murder unborn babies) making the female womb the most dangerous place in America (158 abortions per hour of every working day)…
…think grandmother will survive THIS grandson walking up to her bed…IF SHE KNOWS HIM NOW???????? H E L P !
AMERICA…HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT THIS MAN???????????

Posted by: Robert e | October 23, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

I got news for you, Obama. A righteous wind would be blowing in your face, not your back, because of your stand and your votes on abortion.

Posted by: Susan | October 23, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Don’t listen to the fear and smear campaign.
Remember the last 8 years of Republicans in the White House when you’re in the voting booth.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Republicans controlled Congress under Mr. Clinton.

Posted by: JohnM | October 23, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

PLEASE EVERYONE…..
READ 10-23 article in MERIDIAN MAGAZINE by Orson Scott Card titled “Will the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn Off the Lights”
“righteous wind, my a–!!

Posted by: sneemdream | October 23, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Republicans controlled the White House for the last 8 years, and the Congress and Senate for 6 of those years.
Look at the mess!
If that’s the best Republicans can do with that type of power, then they deserve to be turfed. They blew it. They had ample opportunity to fix things and failed.
Miserably.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Petros. Exactly. Look what has happened in the last 2 years since Democrats took over Congress. Thanks for confirming my point!

Posted by: JohnM | October 23, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

“Remember the last 8 years of Republicans in the White House when you’re in the voting booth.”
–perfos
Also remember that the people that actually write and pass laws are in the House and the Senate, which have been Democrat controlled for the last 2 years.
2006 before the Democrat controlled Congress, “The Change that we needed”
* Unemployment stood at 4.4%.
* Real GDP growth over the previous four years (under a Republican President, House and Senate) averaged 3% per year.
* A gallon of regular gasoline cost $2.30
* The S&P 500 stock index stood at 1418, or 84% above its post-911 low and more than 7% higher than when Bush took office.
* Every year of Bush’s Presidency, real (inflation-adjusted) disposable income per person went up. By the end of 2006, the average person was making 9% more in real terms than before Bush became President .
As for Obama’s tax plan…
“I will not increase your taxes if you earn under $250,000, not one thin dime.”
However, I will repeal the Bush tax cuts…
Bottom line: if you’re single, making $30,000, McCain will tax you $4,500. Obama will extract $8,400 from your wallet — almost double the take! Single making $50,000: McCain’s tax is $12,500; Obama’s is $14,000. Single making $75,000: McCain’s tax is $18,750. Obama will bite you for $23,250.
And it’s no better if you’re married. Married making $60,000: McCain’s tax is only $9,000. Obama will hit you for $16,000. Married making $75,000: McCain’s tax is $18,750, Obama’s $21,000. Married making $125,000: McCain’s tax is $31,250. Obama’s hit — $38,750.
I will happily stay with the more Conservative McCain than the the most Liberal Senator(Ever).
Also, I still haven’t figured out how GOVERNOR Palin is not qualified for the position. The ONLY candidate with EXECUTIVE experience. The other 3 candidates are not held accountable for their decisions because they VOTE, they do not DECIDE. That is why there are 3 branches of our Government. It may do well for a bunch of you posters here to go back and look at your High School textbooks again.

Posted by: Bryan | October 23, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

John the Republicans had control of the White House AND the Congress AND the Senate . .. and were able to do nothing to put in any controls to avoid the coming economic breakdown.
They ran up the budget GROSSLY.
To have that much power, and be that ineffectual is inexcusable.
They will be turfed from power.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Why are you sensoring this message?
I WILL REMEMBER THE FOLLOWING WHEN I AM IN THE VOTING BOOTH
King Obama seeking Messiahship!
Farrakhan professes Obama to be the Messiah! What more can I say? SEE
“Obamatons of the world unite”

Posted by: The Patriot | October 23, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

IT’ AIN’T ALL ABOUT MONEY, FOLKS!
It’s about children, life, morals, guns, religion, taxes, role models, integrity, courage, faith, fidelity, honor, truth, good, liberty, freedom, mom’s apple pie … HE WANTS TO MAKE IT SOMETHING ELSE.
DON’T LET HIM DO IT

Posted by: Robert e | October 23, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Pefros
Please, take a breath and educate yourself…stop with the “repub. for 8 yrs…blah blah”
Read article in Meridian….this mess started with the well meaning jimmy Carter ramped up by bill clinton…raging out of control by 2003 when Sec of Treas Snow tried to stop the “VIRUS” of CRA-Acorn worthless mortgages. Thank Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Franklin Raines, Jim Johnson, Jamie guelnick, chris dodd…and don’t forget BARACK!!
Facts are important…”Bush bashing” is the tedious mantra of those who do not have any FACTS!!

Posted by: sneemdream | October 23, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

sneemdream—–AMEN, AMEN

Posted by: The Patriot | October 23, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

As McCain has said up until very recently “the economy is fundamentally sound” … yeah right . ..
The Republicans had complete power and because of their ignorance and arrogance put nothing in place to provide any measure of security against what has now happened.
To have that much power and be so ineffectual is sad. The Republicans will be turfed.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Obama gives inspirational speeches, which is why I liked him early on. But there have been a few things that make me rethink this.
I have been trying to get an answer to the following on several blogs yet no Obama supporters have given an answer.
Maybe I can get the answer on this blog.
According to Obama in his speeches and during the debates, his mom spent her last months in a hospital bed arguing with the insurance company about her coverage. For the longest, this story made my eyes misty, but then it finally occurred to me:
Why did she have to endure this terrible ordeal, when her son is a Harvard Law grad lawyer and practicing law at the time?
If I was a lawyer and my Mom was in that situation, I’d go to hell and back fighting an insurance company. Why didn’t he? He had time to be ACORN’s lawyer, but didn’t have the time or interest to help his mom? In addition, Michelle is a lawyer too. Didn’t she have time to help her mother in law?
Two additional questions:
Did he really leave her to fend for herself or is the story not true?
If he wouldn’t help his mom on her death bed, why do you think he cares about you?

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 23, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Seriously, it’s sad when the Republicans had complete control of the White House, the Senate and the Congress for 8 and 6 years respectively – and were unable to affect any change to the onslaught of disaster about to decimate the economy. And then to now blame it on previous Democratic governments, etc.
Such ineffectuality in power should not be rewarded.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

John McCain tried, but Barney Frank was too busy with leather collar and dog leash on to notice. He though that McCain was telling him that he “may lose his fanny if those pictures get out” instead of “Fannie Mae will need a bailout”
He and his buddy Chris Dud were too busy counting their money to realize that Fannie and Freddie were going to ruin this country unless we did something.

Posted by: Bryan | October 23, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Yes, Brian. Thankfully there are still some sensible, logical thinking people out here who don’t let others do their thinking for them. Facts are facts.

Posted by: JohnM | October 23, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

sneendream wrote:
Facts are important…”Bush bashing” is the tedious mantra of those who do not have any FACTS!!
Thanks you, I couldn’t say it any better. FACTS people, just the FACTS!!

Posted by: Frank | October 23, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Little does “The One” know but that righteous wind is nothing more than Joe Diden passing gas.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | October 23, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Righteous wind? More like the fires of hell.

Posted by: Brent | October 23, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

The only benefit the country could receive from Obama is if he were to donate his $600 million in campaign proceeds back into the economy, instead if there is any leftover he will use that to remodel the White House by replacing the bowling alley with a basketball court and initiating midnight basketball.

Posted by: Jim | October 23, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Prefos,
Actually, in retrospect, anyone who could keep repeating the same things over and over, and still be so uninformed as to what they are actually saying, must really be working for the other side! Thanks for sneaking in all of those comments which really show that the Republicans are not at fault for the mess we are in, the Democrats are! You really are a closet Republican! Thanks!

Posted by: not just another stupid voter | October 23, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Wow, Bryan, facts hurt don’t they? But that will not stop the Bush Bashing. The Bush bashing will extend way into a decade. If Obama runs 8 years, in the 9th year they will still be talking about how Bush messed everything up. This is inspite of the fact they will have a Democtratic Senate, House, and Presidency. That’s a filibuster proof Senate! 60 Dem Senators! But they will still be bashing Bush about how it is all his fault. The ignorance of America just astounds me! Which Dems out there knew what a filibuster was before they ran to Wikipedia to look it up? Man, Gov’t education at its best people!

Posted by: Elliott | October 23, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Independent Voter . .. it’s clear from this that Obama’s mother died in a matter of a few months.
“In the fall of 1994, Ann was having dinner at her friend Patten’s house in Jakarta when she felt a pain in her stomach. A local doctor diagnosed indigestion. When Ann returned to Hawaii several months later, she learned it was ovarian and uterine cancer. She died on Nov. 7, 1995, at 52.”
The onslaught of the disease was rapid and quickly fatal. Your judgement may not be that fair – it isn’t clear what could have been done in this short time, or what was attempted regarding her health insurance. Let’s not presume.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Interesting coment about Obama’s lack of assistance to his poor dying mom with the insurance companies. What about his lack of help to his brothers all over the world.
The other interesting thing is he always talks about he and Michelle managed to do it all by themselves, college career etc. yet he wants the government to do it for the rest of us. If he and Michelle could do it without government help why not let all the rest of us do it by our selves or were they last smart people to come along and the rest of us a really stupid and can’t do it on our own.
Which is it -

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | October 23, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

This WIND will blow the U.S. Flag at half mast, for the death of the United States as we know it.

Posted by: joefatalaw | October 23, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

It’s great the Republicans attempt to blame their massive failures in power on the Democrats.
But people are not buying this nonsense. The Republicans had their chances and really blew it. Badly
It will be a Democratic landslide regardless of your attempts at revisionist history.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

I’m Glad I’m Retired, I don’t think I could honestly Salute this man if he ever came to my Base.

Posted by: Nancy | October 23, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Post Officerefusing to deliver mnail into one block area of guess where because it is too dangerous – Yes you win the prize – Chicgo. The city with a higher death rate than Iraq and a costlier government. Home to Barrack Obama the wonderful accomplished community organizer. Here is a snap shot view of what the entire country will look like after four years of his brand of community organizing. A vote for Obama is a vote for third world status folks.

Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | October 23, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

President Bush’s fault Obama’s mother passed on? I’m a tiny bit confused with that post. Had to say to myself, “where did that come from?”.

Posted by: JohnM | October 23, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

It’s great the Republicans attempt to blame their massive failures in power on the Democrats.
But people are not buying this nonsense. The Republicans had their chances and really blew it. Badly
It will be a Democratic landslide regardless of your attempts at revisionist history.
And despite the fear and smear campaign from extemists . . . grow up.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

All of you racist diehards sound like a bunch of whining babies. It’s obvious that Obama is the more intelligent, honorable and wisest candidate and is just a winner. Quit sounding like losers and become winners by joining Obama. The way I see it McCain lost two campaigns to the idiot BUSH and another to Obama. How much more failure does it take you losers to identify McCain with FAILURE. This man is a born loser. Quit following this mans recipe on how to lose. That is all he has ever done. He was a POW in a war we lost…… WAKE UP LOSERS

Posted by: MainMan | October 23, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

35000 at the rally? I watched it on CNN live streaming. I bet there weren’t 500 people there. It was a very small crowd.

Posted by: Free America | October 23, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Mainman. Typical response. I am not a racist as you obviously are to even make such a statement. Have you served your country and fought for the freedom you have to make remarks like that? Senator McCain has, you should apoligize to all. Pathetic.

Posted by: JohnM | October 23, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

“Barack Obama is leading John McCain in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois and Minnesota, according to a new Big Ten Battleground Poll. “Obama is clearly winning the Big Ten battleground,” says Charles Franklin of Pollster”
Republicans time in power is over. Democratic landslide.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Hey Pefros… you want to know who more recently stated that the economy was fundamentally sound? Your Boy Barney Frank.
So if it is a lie for McCain to say it, what is it when Frank says it, and then reiterates it, and then says that Obama will have to grow the deficit to take care of his programs? Plus he is going to raise taxes in a time when everyone is already feeling a huge pinch due to the economic downturn? Barney Frank said this just 4 days ago!!!!
Your people have become so bold and brazen that they are unveiling the full extent of how they are going to scuttle the economy that they brought down from the heights.
Hopefully enough Americans are listening and understanding.

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

More spending means more taxes. Count on it. If you make money you will pay more in taxes.
Barrak Hussain Obama (f.k.a. Barry Soetoro) has no common background with most of us. Most of us went to schools, public schools at that in the US, we learned the Pledge of Allegence, the National Anthem and to love the US. He did not. He was schooled by people that have little regard for the USA. I think that has impaired his ability to represent and understand me and most other natural born and educated US citizens.
Money is an issue but a minor one if it all goes to hell. Principals, morals, rights and freedom will matter more. Your right to bear arms will be taken when you need it most to defend your property and family from roving hoards of looters when the government fails to bring a paradise to those that will not work.

Posted by: Jimmy Jackson | October 23, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Whats with McCain and the POW crapola? POW’s are not war heros. He did not save any lives. He dropped bombs from 20,000 feet. He never saw the enemy. He is fighting the Vietnam war all over again, and this nation does not have the time or treasure to spend on his Post Traumatic Stress.

Posted by: Ben | October 23, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

“Barack Obama is leading John McCain in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois and Minnesota, according to a new Big Ten Battleground Poll. “Obama is clearly winning the Big Ten battleground,” says Charles Franklin of Pollster”
With those kind of numbers, it must be time for the Republican right to full-force start calling Obama a ‘terrorist’, ‘communist’, ‘white hater’, ‘anti-american’, ‘destroyer of America’, ‘anti-christ’, ‘baby killer’ . .. anything else you’d like to add?
Extremist mentality is scary.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

MainMan
How then does it feel to be a Democrat that had 2 candidates lose to the “idiot” Bush?
This year will be the same, Dems just can’t close a deal.
McCain 08

Posted by: Bryan | October 23, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Ben… are you serious? McCain saw the enemy EVERY DAY as he was being tortured!
He is the son of an Admiral and was offered release by the Viet Cong multiple times, but he would not leave his fellow prisoners behind just to gain comfort and safety. He is permanently crippled from his treatment in the POW camp. He bled for this country and you should at least give him respect for that.
You libs really need to grow up and gain some sensitivity.

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

To me John McCain does not look well physically, mentally or emotionally.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

“Barack Obama is leading John McCain in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois and Minnesota, according to a new Big Ten Battleground Poll. “Obama is clearly winning the Big Ten battleground,” says Charles Franklin of Pollster”
With those kind of numbers, it must be time for the Republican right to full-force start calling Obama a ‘terrorist’, ‘communist’, ‘white hater’, ‘anti-american’, ‘destroyer of America’, ‘anti-christ’, ‘baby killer’ . .. anything else you’d like to add?
Extremist mentality is scary . .. Larry.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Pefros,
I have confronted you with policy points, not name calling and you refuse to address substance issues.
Will you address anything that I have brought up or are you just here to sling names and abuse around?

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

To Pefros…evidently you have nothing better to do than to regurgitate democratic talking point responses to tax-paying working Americans all day. You are truly pathetic. I guess you reflect the change we need….the voice of unity…the vision of true tolerance…..Yup. Your hypocritical hatred is what we Americans can look forward to under your new socialist government.

Posted by: Leo | October 23, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Hillary did that faux church talk during the primary and got savaged for it. The Chosen One does it and the press says nothing.
I’ve smelled more righteous winds passing a dairy farm.

Posted by: grunk | October 23, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.” Obama will create history by being our first illiterate preseident.

Posted by: NObama | October 23, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Obama’s plan to cut taxes. Do away with the Bush tax cut. Here is what is going to happen.
let’s say you’re part of a married couple, filing jointly, with $60,000 in taxable income. In 2008, you would pay $8,198. If you have the same amount of taxable income after the Bush tax cuts are repealed, and tax rates return to 2000 levels, you’ll pay $11,100.
You get to be more patriotic in Joe Biden’s mind to the tune of $2,902, out of your pocket and into the government’s coffers. Gotta spread that wealth around, you know.
But don’t worry. Barack Obama says he won’t raise taxes on people making less than $250,000, and provide a tax cut for 95 percent of Americans. He promised

Posted by: WHAT??? | October 23, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

So? He probably just needs to stop eating beans.

Posted by: Angel | October 23, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

How much more arrogant can this POS get? Thankfully, there is much recent history when the polls have completely wrong. For those of you who do not like it when Obama is called a terrorist sympathizer, socialist, and baby killer, tough. He has admitted to all of these things. Obama has run on distortions, lies and deception of his true views. He believes in “spreading the wealth”. He believes in abortion on demand. He believes in massive new federal spending and tax increases for everyone. He believes in giving money to those who have not even paid taxes. Are these not the values of a socialist? Yeah, they are. When the polls are wrong and he loses, watch for the Democrats to call the country racist and watch for some cities to break out in full blown riots.

Posted by: Jim in California | October 23, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Just like throwing pearls before swine… (directed at pefros and ben)
I hope you children enjoy your fantasy president. Unfortunately, the lesson that you learn from this will be something we all have to live through.

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

“After reading this blog it has become quite obvious to me that America will never change in their backward, racist outlook of their fellow citizens and the world in general. This is one of many reasons why this nation has fallen behind so many others of late. . . If you don’t like Obama on the issues then fine but there is no place for these hateful and disgusting comments.”
Exactly, thank you Robert.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Just like throwing pearls before swine… (directed at pefros and ben)
I hope you children enjoy your fantasy president. Unfortunately, the lesson that you learn from this will be something we all have to live through.

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

pefros are you doing your own polls? I live in Ohio and McCain is up 2 points and the last I saw he was up a point in Florida.

Posted by: WHAT??? | October 23, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Two words are the only ones that would have helped us.
Ron Paul

Posted by: Jimmy Jackson | October 23, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Bryan and Jimmy Jackson, I truly pity both of you. I can’t even say that the two of you are factually off base. You are outright lying which is even worse. Obama renounced his US citizenship? Back your assertions up with some hard core facts!! He is a faux Christian? Who are you or anyone else to judge someone’s relationship with God? Give me a break. It is quite clear that neither one of you has a grasp of the issues so you resort to these fanciful comments. Can’t you defend the McCain platform without bashing Obama?

Posted by: Robert Benjamin | October 23, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Just like throwing pearls before swine… (directed at pefros and ben)
I hope you children enjoy your fantasy president. Unfortunately, the lesson that you learn from this will be something we all have to live through.

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

mixjuan we can only wish the last 8 years of Republicans in the White House was a ‘fantasy’ presidency.
Unfortunately, it was a reality.
Republicans will be rightfully voted out of the White House. They had their chance to ruin the country.
I see Americans voting a Democratic landslide. It’s over for the Republicans due to their record in the White House.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

When will people open their eyes? Obama is a dangerous person. Just research some of his friends past and current. This counrty is going to Hell and fast if this man is elected. I can see him fro what he is and it is not for any of us to benefit from. Check out some of these people and then tell me he is there for you. Jeremiah Wright-Muslum-Marxist Liberation Theology, Sandinista, Raila Odinga-Kenyan Oposition Leader-Obama’s Uncle-Muslim, William Ayers-terrorist, Bernadine Dohrn-terrorist, wife of terrorist, Saul Alinsky-Marxist “COMMUNITY ORAGNIZER”, Michael Pfleger-Social Activist, Frank Marshall Davis-Communist Party Member, Groomed Obama while living in Hawaii Pedophile, Rashid Khalidi-Arab American Action Network & POL, Louis Farrakhan-Nation of Islam leader, ACORN, Wade Rathke, Mike Klonsky, Dr. Khalid al Mansour- Jew Hater, Gregory Galluzzo-”COMMUNITY ORGANIZER” Alinsky study, John L. McKnight-Alinsky study & National People’s Action, Antonin Rezko
Felon, Obama Campaign supporter. Do you see a pattern. Tyle in these names + Obama and see what you get. You need to rethink befor you cast your vote!

Posted by: Gforce | October 23, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

No Frank, those are my observations. Extremist, alarmist nonsense is an obvious scare tactic of the extreme right, and deserves to be called what it is . . . and confronted each time it appears.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Imagine the Obama-nation…
Liberal minded emotion bags running our executive branch, legislative branch, eventually judicial branch, media outlets, voter registration booths via ACORN, foriegn policy, healthcare, our pocketbooks and the economy.
I’ve got an idea…Lets spread the wealth around and try to eliminate the poor and boost the middle class by destroying “rich” leaders. Name a time in history when this has worked?

Posted by: forsheez | October 23, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Oh I could just puke…that is wind allright but not “rightous”…
B.O. Stinks…that’s not the wind we smell, it’s the stench of arrogance and deceit.
God help us if this slimey, sleazy creep gets into office.
Democrat for McCain 08

Posted by: BabsNJ | October 23, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

forsheez you think rich leaders are going to be destroyed? you live in a fantasy land …

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Ayers is a guy from my neighborhood.
Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not the man I once knew.
Rezko? I know him, he got me a cheap property, he’s hardly the guy I knew.
I don’t know anything about ACORN except I was their lawyer and I paid $800,000 to them.
Do you see a pattern emerging here? And it’s that he always disassociates himself when he gets caught, and when it becomes politically expedient. It’s not out of principle, it’s out of political expediency.
Isn’t this the pattern now, of Barack Obama?”
I really beleive most democrats are still upset Hilliary Clinton was not chosen, which she should of been or least picked as VP. She will be back in 12 going against Palin.

Posted by: Liberal press | October 23, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

In the words of Farakhan, the messiah is speaking. Wake up people. He isn’t a savior, he is going to destroy the economy by raising taxes on the people who provide jobs.

Posted by: Clay | October 23, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

My new yard sign for Halloween: BOObama. Probably won’t bug the kids, just the NObama worshippers. New bumper stikers when NObama doesn’t do what he’s promising: Don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for the lier. NObama can’t possibly do what he’s saying that sounds so good to the foolish; but, he will end up doing much more harm than we can imagine. Fools, wake up before it’s too late. Don’t be taken so lightly by NObama who’s got voters suckered by his charm.

Posted by: BOObama | October 23, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

pefros,
I am not going to say that I am happy with the results of the Bush presidency. multiple members of my family went to war, he caved in to liberal policy makers, he lacked spine to do a lot of the right things that would have prevented this current energy and economic condition we are in right now.
but you have to take credit where credit is due. there is a lot of what is wrong right now that was prevented from being made right by the very people who are pointing fingers at Bush and the republicans because people are all to willing to accept that explanation now.
Obama is a fantasy president and will turn into a nightmare far worse than what you believe we currently have in the White House. With both houses of congress and the White House at the command of the far left wing of the Democrat party, you will realize just how good we have it now when they accomplish all that they intend to.
but you hold on tight to your dreams… I expect this is your first election?

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Extremist, alarmist nonsense is an obvious scare tactic of the extreme right, and deserves to be called what it is . . . and confronted each time it appears.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

The only good thing that will happen if Obama does become President, it will be the last time we will see a Democrat win an election for many years to come, and hopefully get back to Republicans running Congress. I can remember when Bush and Congress was in control, the first 6 years were great then what happened, we voted for change and got Pelosi, Reid, Franks…..to many.

Posted by: Liberal press | October 23, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

We must suspend the Constitution so the the messiah Obama can do his work. It was written by rich angry white people anyway, so prophet Obama should not have to toil under its yoke. Praise to Obama!!

Posted by: Kneel before Obama | October 23, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

pefros,
I am not going to say that I am happy with the results of the Bush presidency. multiple members of my family went to war, he caved in to liberal policy makers, he lacked spine to do a lot of the right things that would have prevented this current energy and economic condition we are in right now.
but you have to take credit where credit is due. there is a lot of what is wrong right now that was prevented from being made right by the very people who are pointing fingers at Bush and the republicans because people are all to willing to accept that explanation now.
Obama is a fantasy president and will turn into a nightmare far worse than what you believe we currently have in the White House. With both houses of congress and the White House at the command of the far left wing of the Democrat party, you will realize just how good we have it now when they accomplish all that they intend to.
but you hold on tight to your dreams… I expect this is your first election?

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Ayers is a guy from my neighborhood.
Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not the man I once knew.
Rezko? I know him, he got me a cheap property, he’s hardly the guy I knew.
I don’t know anything about ACORN except I was their lawyer and I paid $800,000 to them.
Do you see a pattern emerging here? And it’s that he always disassociates himself when he gets caught, and when it becomes politically expedient. It’s not out of principle, it’s out of political expediency.
Isn’t this the pattern now, of Barack Obama?”

Posted by: Liberal press | October 23, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Virginia won’t matter if PA doesn’t go Obama. With the Joe the Plumber blunder, clinging to guns and religion, and a lull in campaigning there with his ailing grandma; he stands to lose a foothold in the state effectively the same as losing Virginia and another small state that Democrats have already assumed from the last election. Don’t take my word for it, ask Democratic PA governor Ed Rendell.

Posted by: Darlene Jenkins, PA | October 23, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

“Righteous wind?” If Obama becomes the next president, the nation had better pray to God that he isn’t breaking wind on this nation.

Posted by: Mike, Fredericksburg VA | October 23, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Extremist, alarmist nonsense is an obvious scare tactic of the extreme right, and deserves to be called what it is . . . and confronted each time it appears.
and forsheez, I have no problem with the fortunes Bush, McCain, Cheney and their pals have made off of the backs of American citizens with their oil and war profiteering. While the economy has crumbled, they’ve made off like bandits. Fair is fair.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Liberal press But you have to remember the 20 years Obama went to Rev. Wright he never preached like that, he just started when Obama became a nominee.

Posted by: WHAT??? | October 23, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

So Obama feels like he has a rightous wind at his back. This Man is full of Pride and arrogance. He may feel a rightous wind at his back because the Lord dosen’t go before a lier to prepare the way,and that is for sure. Their is none rightous except the Lord God Jahova. Gods word tells us that we will know them by the fruit they bear. Abortion is murder. Lies are from the enemy. People are calling Obama the Messiah well Obama hasen’t denied the claim so he is a lying, decietful devil who has blaspheamed against the Holy Spirit. Anyone who exalts their selves above God is the Anti Christ with the spirit of Satan in them. God will not be mocked. The blind are leading the blind and they will all fall in a Pit. God help this Nation.

Posted by: Anna | October 23, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Pefros your missing another point. You say I live in a fantasy land but your laughable argument demenstrates your tendancies. For the economy meltdown… just tell Senator Obama not to force banks to loan to those without the means, ok, Pefros.

Posted by: forsheez | October 23, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

pefros,
The dow is at the same level it was when Bush entered office and gas is at the same price. We didn’t make huge gains, but no one that has sane judgement should be broke. When the entire world loses money then everyone is still as rich as they were before.
I don’t think the economy will change much in the next 4 years whoever gets to be president. Obama will socialize the economy negating any gains and McCain will be blocked by the Democrat congress.
The only reason why Clinton gets credit for the economy is cause he was lucky enough to have the personal computer golden age under his watch. Think about it, you couldn’t read this if that didn’t happen. I only give credit to him and any polition credit for NOT screwing things up.

Posted by: Darlene Jenkins, PA | October 23, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

If either McCain or Palin ever said, as did Obama, “I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here,” they would be lambasted for implying God was on their side. But, of course, the Messaiah said it and he is, after all, just talking about his Dad.

Posted by: RPL | October 23, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

If either McCain or Palin ever said, as did Obama, “I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here,” they would be lambasted for implying God was on their side. But, of course, the Messaiah said it and he is, after all, just talking about his Dad.

Posted by: RPL | October 23, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

RPL,
Joe Biden makes Dan Quayle look like Stephen Hawking.

Posted by: Darlene Jenkins, PA | October 23, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Beware of the righteous.

Posted by: God | October 23, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

There is certainly enough blame to go around. One thing we can be sure of the Bush family, Cheney and their oil, military/industrial pals have made off like bandits. But of course, that is their divine right.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Joe Biden tells the truth. He knows Obama is not ready to be President. Stand behind us if Obama is elected because he will be tested. Biden said Obama did not have the experience to be President and then said he would run as VP with John McCain if asked before Obama asked him to be his running mate. Hilliary also said Obama does not have the experience.

Posted by: Liberal press | October 23, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

perfos:
No Frank, those are my observations. Extremist, alarmist nonsense is an obvious scare tactic of the extreme right
It is obvious you are committed and that in itself should be commended however you need to understand the difference between “observations” and media rhetoric. What you spout is almost word for word media hype not entirely observation. It probably isn’t your fault, hell, it’s hard to not repeat media rhetoric, you hear the same crap so much, but if you could just rise above that and actually do some research you may find that what we Republicans state are FACTS, for the most part. Agreed there are some here that kinda go a bit too far but most of us state facts that the MEDIA WILL NOT REPORT. An example of facts the media does NOT state:
The One and the Prime has stated our troops in Afghanistan are “Air raiding villages and killing civilians” this is a FACT. Do you believe this is proper for a possible future President to say publically?
The One and the Prime has stated “he is going to spread the wealth”, again FACT. The very definition of Socialism is about spreading the wealth by government.
The One’s running mate stated during the Democratic Primary that “the White House is no place for On The Job Training” he was speaking about Obama. But now it’s ok? Again, this is a FACT. I could go on and on and on but I hope you get the picture and difference between “your observations”, media rhetoric and FACTS!!

Posted by: Frank | October 23, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Yes the righteous wind just mutilated a woman in Pittsburgh.

Posted by: Bill | October 23, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Hey since you are a member of the MSM that has annoited obama are you going to contribute to his crown and halo…after all you continue to tell the country he is the ONE the only Messiah…

Posted by: Margaretr | October 23, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

You got a wind alright, but it ain’t righteous. Check this out
‘B’ CARVED INTO 20-YEAR OLD WOMAN’S FACE… DEVELOPING…
SHOCK: MCCAIN CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH

Posted by: t | October 23, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

My family has been in Virginia seen the 1600′s and served in Virginia’s first lesgilature. That knowlege and a pocket full of inflated money will buy you a cup of coffee at MacDonalds! Neither of the two major canidates are offering any solutions to our monetary crisis. I couldn’t be convinced to vote for either one of these “posers” even if I had done all of the drugs that both of them have done! First off, Barack Obama is probably not qualified per the U.S.Constitution.(see Philip Berg lawsuit). This needs to be resolved before november 4th! This election will end up being one of the biggest scandals in American history if Obama and the DNC do not get right and righteous immediately!!

Posted by: jimmyp | October 23, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

“The One and the Prime has stated our troops in Afghanistan are “Air raiding villages and killing civilians” this is a FACT. Do you believe this is proper for a possible future President to say publically?”
Frank I’ve seen this quote in context and it is much more complicated than you present it. What is not proper is pulling the quote out of context and using it in isolation in an attempt to discredit someone – while totally misrepresenting what they said.
Sorry Frank, this is just reprehensible nonsense.
Same with the ‘spreading the wealth’ quote . . . taken totally out of context. Readjusting the tax scheme to take a little weight off the middle class and placing a little weight on those earning over $250,000 is not a sin against god. Again, another issue misrepresented and demonized by Republicans for political gain.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Obama did tell his supporters to get in the faces of his detractors. Obama has now started something that will end in a mess.

Posted by: Liberal press | October 23, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Extremist, alarmist nonsense is an obvious scare tactic of the extreme right, and deserves to be called what it is . . . and confronted each time it appears.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

How about you perfos, any response to the Indonesian School history? Or is copy and paste your only weapon?
Saying the same thing over and over doesnt make it true

Posted by: Bryan | October 23, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

Have to go pick up my family. Will check on you later perfos, Robert Benjamin. Study up, come up with something new, the old stuff just is not getting it done.

Posted by: Bryan | October 23, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Anybody interested in the fact that a young woman in Pittsburgh was just brutalized with a “B” carved into her face simply because she was a McCain volunteer? You know what’s real weird about this? Murtha has been out there calling the WHITE people in his constituency “racist.”

Posted by: Laura | October 23, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

‘Righteous Wind At Our Backs’
This is Code word for “flatulence”

Posted by: Lewis Diuguid, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist | October 23, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Obama supporters already think that Barry is going to take everything away from the white man and give it to the blacks. A black caller (not an Obama supporter) on the radio the other day said that most of his fellow blacks have plainly told him this. Now we see that Obama supporters are causing violence against those they believe that oopose Obama. We have turned into a third world country.

Posted by: ricardo maxwell | October 23, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

‘Righteous Wind At Our Backs’
This is code word for “flatulence”

Posted by: Lewis Diuguid, Kansas City Star Editorial Page columnist | October 23, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

LouAnn I couldn’t agree more. So what sense does it make to cut the golden carrot in half, grind it up and sprinkle it around? Even if you don’t succeed, try again. And its by trying (not giving) that makes this country great.

Posted by: forsheez | October 23, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

That is not a righteous wind … if it were you would have a change of heart about killing the unborn children.
As for the middle class benefitting from Obama’s tax plan…. Every time someone promises to tax someone else to benefit you… hold on to your wallet. Politicians are great at using the divide and conquer ploy. They are also well known for making promises they can’t keep to get elected.

Posted by: Kevin | October 23, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

If McCain or any Republican uttered the words “I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs” they would have been ridiculed as fundamentalist right wing Christians. or if President George W. Bush had said “got a righteous..” we would have heard ‘There he goes again, killing the English language.

Posted by: Al | October 23, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

A “righteous wind”? Is that a phrase copped from one of the Rev. Wright’s sermons?

Posted by: judithod | October 23, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Exactly, forsheez! People are doing for themselves. When the government interferes, people (over time) lose the skills to advance themselves. A simple way of saying that socialism does not work.
To digress … It kills me that people cry for help from the government for welfare, job training, childhood education, financial literacy, even the environment and so on. A whole host of churches and nonprofits are already effectively/efficiently tackling these problems. I donate 10% after tax to nonprofits, and if I catch one not doing as they promise, my money will go elsewhere. I expect accountability. The government programs will never give you that level of accountability. (No, what’s worse is they want to tax you more so they can set up their bloated programs that may be shortsighted or completely uneccesary.) As for the environment,the private sector has been working on green technology for decades and are making huge gains in clean coal, lithium-ion batteries, electric cars and so on — investors have been flooding to this sector and pumping money into this — we don’t need more tax payer dollars, we need government to get out of the way.

Posted by: LouAnn | October 23, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

OK, now you’ve made me put on my teacher hat after reading all the disgusting comments here.
Righteous as defined by Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc.
–adjective
1. characterized by uprightness or morality: a righteous observance of the law.
2. morally right or justifiable: righteous indignation.
3. acting in an upright, moral way; virtuous: a righteous and godly person.
4. Slang. absolutely genuine or wonderful: some righteous playing by a jazz great.
Here’s what was really said in Leesburg, VA (a short 15 miles from my house):
“I know some folks may not think so, but this looks like the real Virginia to me. This looks like authentic Virginia. And y’all look like a bunch of Virginians…I haven’t seen a real Virginia and a fake Virginia, I’ve just seen Virginia…And in 13 days, if you’ll stand with me, then I know that we can win Virginia and we can win this election and we can finally bring the change we need to Washington. Now, that’s the good news. I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here, but we’re going to have to work. We’re going to have to struggle. We’re going to have to fight for every single one of those 13 days to move this country in a new direction.”
Does anyone here complaining about his speech lacking grammar (“we got”) or the use of the word righteous (as if claiming some divine support) think that he might have been using slang as a linguistic device? Please see definition 4 above or…what’s wrong with him (and us) feeling like his campaign is upright & justifiable?
Are we supposed to believe that somehow this is worse than this quote from Palin’s interview with James Dobson??? “…let Americans know that government has to be on their side, it’s their government and as we seek God’s wisdom and His will in this election, we have to have faith that it’s all going to be good at the end of the day there on November 4th as this country moves forward.”
This has been a tough, ugly campaign after 8 difficult years. I think we’re all more than a little afraid of the future whether a member of the Democratic or Republican party. Right now, I don’t really care who’s to blame. I just know that we’ve lost over 30% of our retirement savings that we’ve been putting away since 1973. Our kids are stuck in a 1 bdrm condo with a baby despite the fact that they’ve saved $65,000 for a downpayment by doing without in their 5 years of marriage because they can’t sell in this market. Our son can’t go to graduate school because he’s afraid to take a leave of absence in the current job climate & his specialty would require fulltime enrollment.
I’m just tired. Tired of the negativity, tired of the erosion of my civil liberties, tired of the so-called war, tired of excuses, tired of golden parachutes, tired of the scare tactics being used to instill continuing fear, tired of the lies, tired of the labels, tired… Do I believe that there are people in the world who want to do us harm? Of course I do – any sane person would recognize that. I just want change & hope.
Obama/Biden may not be perfect, but, at least, I share more beliefs with them than I do McCain/Palin. My husband & I are Independents who would have voted for McCain 4 years ago based on his strengths. He’s not the same man… and, at 57 & hoping to retire someday, we need the hope of a change. Yes, we can.

Posted by: arnisarn | October 23, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Well, looks like the party is over for Mr. McCain. I truly hope the mainstream media is satisfied with itself that it supplied probably 7 to 9 points to obama. All of you abc, cbs, msnbc, nbc, ny times, washington post, newswee, time – you are all slugs, failed journalists in the tank for obama from the word go. You should all be removed from your posts, we never got an honest assessment from you. Nothing on Rezko, Wright, fannie Mae (Raines), freddie mac (johnson), acorn – all obama issues that never got discussed. You are all just liberal hacks. Well, after we see obama
kissing ajmedinejahd on each cheek a la Jimmy “the failure” Carter/Brezhnev (another loser you all pushed for) and then Iran starting WW111 by bombing Israel and your boy barack telling us we have nothing to worry about, then maybe u will realize what u have done to our country.
Total, total lack of insepection into this empty suit barack obama. The press is a disgrace.

Posted by: ian fraser | October 23, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

“Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.”
The word is out that they caught the guy but only found six $10 Obama donations on him and let him go.

Posted by: o_no | October 23, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

This is for Arnisarn…You said you don’t really know who’s to blame and you don’t care. That’s the problem. Maybe you should care and maybe you should figure out who’s to blame so you don’t keep making the same mistakes. You appear ignorant when you admit you haven’t taken the time to do your homework, research your facts or delved into backgrounds of the man you want to vote for. Do you know who John Wallace Davis is? Maybe you should start there.

Posted by: Theresa | October 23, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

The “Righteous Wind” at your back would be a totally adoring, worshipful media–who not only do your bidding, but who will gladly PAY to attend your election night party in Chicago.

Posted by: Obama is an Unrepentant Marxist | October 23, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Righteous Justice ( Hate? ) in the Obama Campaign.
Lady working for McCain campaign beaten and mutilated by an Obama Supporter in Pittsburgh. Large “B” carved into her Back after she was beaten to the ground.
Her crime was she dared to speak of her support for McCain
Another lady working for McCain Campaign beaten with wooden board by a male Obama Supporter. She was attacked, her sign stolen and she was then beaten with a wooden board on the head, neck and hands. Attack did not stop until he was restrained by other men in the area. New York city Police walking the beat arrested him for assault.
Obama supporters at Obama speaking engagements buying and wearing T-shirts which say:
Obama supporter who owns a Pizza restaurant giving away a free Pizza to anyone who steals a McCain campaign sign and brings it into them for destruction. No proof of ownership of the sign required to claim your Pizza.
,,, and the Beat goes On with a Righteous Wind at our Back.
Righteous Justice for those who oppose the Messiah.
How will Obama use the US Prosecutors if he is elected????
Watch this brief local TV news cast and judge for yourself:

Posted by: Reality Check | October 23, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

arnisarn, I understand what you’re saying. I think we need to think what’s best for your grandbaby here. Sounds like life has intervened and your kids have to wait to reach some important goals. Keeping, instead of chucking, a job and staying in a condo, even if it’s tight quarters, may not be what they had planned, but it’s the right thing for now. Tough times forge character. They test us and who we really are — do we whine, do we step up to the plate, do we expect someone to rescue us, do we formulate a plan B, C, D? People are enormously resilient. It seems like crazy times (“crazy,” my grandpa who’s 92 would laugh at that remark, as he was born during the Influenza Epidemic that killed 50 million and a child during the Great Depression with a family during WWII). But for us, used to stability and comfort, it seems like crazy times. We need to reconnect with our ingenuity and decide to stop being so afraid. Or so reactive to others being afraid (which often comes out as anger).
I liked that full broadcast of Palin speaking to Dobson, though I’ve really cooled toward Dobson over the last 10 years. I found myself wishing I had a deeper spiritual life. I also found myself wishing that others could listen to the whole broadcast, as it revealed her heart.

Posted by: LouAnn | October 23, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

arnisarn:
I feel your pain, I think we are all tired of this, I have children myself and even though I am tired of all this too, I don’t lose track that Obama certainly isn’t the answer ie. Socialism isn’t the answer. Do you think we can all survive on HOPE!? I agree McCain isn’t perfect but at least he isn’t into a Socialist ideology which history has proven time and time again DOESN’T WORK!! You think it’s bad now, if the One and The Prime get into office you are sure as hell going to see it get a lot worse and not just monetarily.

Posted by: Frank | October 23, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

perfos:
Same with the ‘spreading the wealth’ quote . . . taken totally out of context
Can you explain has this is taken out of context? This is word for word what your clown said HOW CAN THIS BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT? I tried to be nice and even gave you props for at least being committed but if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck it’s a duck and you are a HACK plain and simple!

Posted by: Frank | October 23, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Here’s a another good reason not to vote for OBama. This kind of thing has already started and it will get worse. Look what the thugs do in Venezuela in the name of Chavez and socialism!
PITTSBURGH — A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield was also maimed by her attacker, police said.
Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.
Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.
Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.

Posted by: ricardo maxwell | October 23, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Quote from Noah Webster “If a republican government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws.”

Posted by: Dee | October 23, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Please put an end to this nightmare:
vote
McCAIN PALIN 08

Posted by: barry d'loser | October 23, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Winds can die down at the drop of a hat.

Posted by: Tukee | October 23, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

FYI if Obama is elected we will wish for the day of a DOW at 8600.
Obama’s tax changes will cause people to pull whatever money they have left out of the market causing a REAL CRASH.
Anyone thinking of voting for Obama you have no idea of how bad things will get. Pelosi, Reid, Obama will collectively destroy this country.

Posted by: Samuel | October 23, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

1. intimidation tactics with obama supporters all over the country (destroyed McCain signs, assaults, batteries) – silence anyone who has a different point of view
2. children used in propaganda videos for obama (children singing, spewing hate speech about Palin) – brainwashing
3. EXTREME media bias, to the point of propaganda – brainwashing
4. a PRIVATE CITIZEN asks a fair question of a presidential candidate who just happened to walk into his neighborhood. result: his tax history, his professional accredidations, etc. are exposed to the public in order to shame him into silence. HE’S A PRIVATE CITIZEN WHO SIMPLY ASKED A QUESTION! – intimidation tactics
5. the presidential candidate has open relationships with radical americans of questionnable character and obvious anti-american sentiments – unpatriotic
6. michelle obama (potential first lady and ambassador for our country) has just recently, for the first time in her adult life, found pride in her country – unpatriotic
America – if we elect Barack Obama, we condone this intolerant propoganda sentiment and we embolden half the country to continue bullying the other half of the country. NO THANKS.

Posted by: JS NYC | October 23, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Please put an end to this nightmare:
vote
McCAIN PALIN 08
Posted by: barry d’loser | Oct 23, 2008 5:15:09 PM
My thoughts exactly, but I will add this: Voters if America and especially Virginia, if you elect Obama President, the nightmare will go on and on. You do not want the kind of change he plans to bring to America, even though he is slick enough to hide his real intentions. He is a true socialist who will tax you to death. And if you are pro-life, Obama is the nightmare candidate who sponsors and has promised to sign the Freedom of Choice Act which will make UNRESTRICTED ABORTION THE LAW OF THE LAND. Please…all undecided voters or those who are leaning towards Obama – SAVE YOUR COUNTRY AND VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN.

Posted by: Alex | October 23, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

perfos… you talk about alarmist rhetoric being a tool of the right. so far as I know, we only fight real enemies.
However… on the left, you have to scare us into thinking that the sky is falling (global warming, I mean cooling, I mean warming… er… climate change), a Republican president will make sure NOBODY has health care, ummm… the right lives for killing women and children (but somehow it is ok to abort babies), and what else? oh yeah, when a republican is ahead in the polls, they are going to use Diebold electronic voting machines to steal the election. the war in Afghanistan and Iraq are complete failures and the only thing to report is body count. there is absolutely nothing good happening at all.
Does that sound alarmist? No? I guess not, if you are used to getting that bilge all the time from news sources.
You are really fortunate that you have so many people on TV and in magazines (I expect Rolling Stone is a favorite around your dorm room) that influence… er… I mean agree with you.
where will you get your talking points from tomorrow? who are you going to mimic? John Stewart? Maybe Al Franken or one of the other failed hosts of Air America. How about Katie Couric or Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann or even Bill Maher or Michael Moore. Am I getting close to your “influences”?
you really need to wake up and see what the world is really about. it would shock you just how wrong you are.
Thomas Jefferson said that any government that will promise you everything you want is powerful enough to take everything you have. Consider that before you buy into what Obama is selling. You want to talk buyer’s remorse? You will have it in about a year.
You aren’t old enough to remember the Carter years, I expect. I just hope there will be a Ronald Reagan at the end of this disaster.

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Most of you are so sick minded. Grow up. Your man McCain has started these hate tactics, or maybe you only read between the lines. Or better still, only listen to Robocalls. I feel sorry for those of you that are so upset about your candidate being behind that you have lost all concept of reasoning. This should be about the American people getting back on their feet after a disappointing market that has impacted our future with our 401K saving going down the toilet. Is spreading hate the best you can do? If so, I feel sorry for all of you idiots.

Posted by: Jackie | October 23, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Making celebratory plans is the kiss of death for any campaign… The all-knowing St. Barack of Obama should know this.

Posted by: Superpower | October 23, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Jackie,
have you been paying attention to what has cause the economic crash?
Bush and McCain have been pushing for years for tighter regulation on mortgage brokers, especially Freddie and Fannie. Democrats who have now “fixed” the problem that they conveniently blame Bush for, including your squeaky clean presidential candidate, resisted all calls for regulation citing RACISM and they propped up a corrupt CEO and brought down the regulator that exposed his crimes.
giving loans to people who did not qualify for them (and remember Obama sued brokers who would not lend to unqualified borrowers) took more houses off the market and caused a bubble and housing prices shot up unnaturally. once the foreclosures started, the bubble burst in a big way and now people are losing houses that they paid a lot more for than they are now worth.
This started with CARTER and continued with CLINTON (even HE admitted it) and the democrats in congress have continued the problem.
you really need to recheck your history and get your story straight. You are the one believing the lies here.

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

“Most of you are so sick minded. Grow up. Your man McCain has started these hate tactics, or maybe you only read between the lines. Or better still, only listen to Robocalls. I feel sorry for those of you that are so upset about your candidate being behind that you have lost all concept of reasoning. This should be about the American people getting back on their feet after a disappointing market that has impacted our future with our 401K saving going down the toilet. Is spreading hate the best you can do? If so, I feel sorry for all of you idiots.”
Are all of the undecided voters paying attention? This Obama supporter (quoted above) just made my case that Obama supporters are mean-spirited and bullies. This person’s response was hateful “sick minded”, insulting “idiots”, and lacked any substance or facts.
401Ks are going “down the toilet”, by the way, because of government interference in the free market.
Do we really want the government to have more of a stake in our financial viability??? Please America, less government – more free market enterprise and growth.
A vote for Obama is a vote for big Government, inefficient, bloated, big government. NO THANKS.

Posted by: JS NYC | October 23, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Does anyone else find it strange that most GOP supporters demand people vote for THEIR personal views (which are often religion-based, a true luxury considering the real problems we current face) while Democrats simply want a higher standard of living for the lower and middle class?
Who’s the selfish one here?

Posted by: Bradley | October 23, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Bradley, thoughtful point, but I don’t want to pay, (via my increased taxes) for a higher standard of living for the lower and middle class. Get out there and earn it like I did.

Posted by: Superpower | October 23, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Excellent point about predicting a win being a bad move. It might be the October Surprise everybody has been waiting for. I think Obama has been around Biden too long and now he’s not watching what he says anymore. I can’t believe that Obama and his campaign want more money and they’re already planning an expensive extravaganza on election night. I can’t even afford to buy milk and they’re raking in all this money. I liked Obama for awhile but I’m thinking of switching over. Remember the expensive custom office he put in his plane? And where I live, they’re charging $8 for an Obama campaign sign while McCain’s are free. Lessee, buy a sign or buy milk. Or have food on the table and put a McCain sign up. Obama doesn’t make it easy.

Posted by: Ron Daniels | October 23, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Superpower,
you are absolutely correct. I am all for helping those who absolutely cannot help themselves. that is the sign of a compassionate nation.
but rewarding those who refuse to help themselves and who take advantage of the system is what will increase in an Obama administration.
and speaking of helping the middle class. do you really think that repealing the Bush tax cuts will help us in the ambiguously stated “middle class”? I know it won’t have an effect either way on the lower class because they don’t pay taxes and they still get rebates. but how does repealing tax CUTS (interpret RAISING TAXES ACROSS THE BOARD) help the middle class?
libs on this board…
I work hard for the money that I make, and it is not a whole lot, so that I can keep a roof over my wife’s and baby’s heads. I don’t buy the best things. My cars were bought used. My house is older and in constant need of work. We don’t go out a whole lot because we really can’t afford to with gas prices and such the way they are. How is Obama raising MY TAXES going to help me in the least? Please enlighten me to this. Just this one point, please.

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

“Does anyone else find it strange that most GOP supporters demand people vote for THEIR personal views (which are often religion-based, a true luxury considering the real problems we current face) while Democrats simply want a higher standard of living for the lower and middle class?”
????
Doesn’t everyone have a personal point of view???? Shouldn’t we weigh all the issues? What are you saying, that every voter should weigh certain issues the same? “Everyone, base your vote on 50% for the economy, 25% for the war, 25% for personal issues”???
How many women are voting against Sarah Palin because she is pro life? Are those personal views OK as long as they are in favor of your candidate?
It sounds like that you are being dismissive of the fact that Americans are free-thinkers and can vote based on whatever convictions they feel strongly about. THAT’S WHAT FREEDOM AND THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS ALL ABOUT. This is very much inline with the tone of America today. The media has told us what’s important and what’s not, what to think and what not to think, who to vote for and who to vote against. Obama supporters all over the country are bullying opposition because they have a different point of view.
Does anyone see a pattern emerging with the fanaticism of Obama mania?

Posted by: JS NYC | October 23, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

“Does anyone else find it strange that most GOP supporters demand people vote for THEIR personal views (which are often religion-based, a true luxury considering the real problems we current face) while Democrats simply want a higher standard of living for the lower and middle class?”
????
Doesn’t everyone have a personal point of view???? Shouldn’t we weigh all the issues? What are you saying, that every voter should weigh certain issues the same? “Everyone, base your vote on 50% for the economy, 25% for the war, 25% for personal issues”???
How many women are voting against Sarah Palin because she is pro life? Are those personal views OK as long as they are in favor of your candidate?
It sounds like that you are being dismissive of the fact that Americans are free-thinkers and can vote based on whatever convictions they feel strongly about. THAT’S WHAT FREEDOM AND THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS ALL ABOUT. This is very much inline with the tone of America today. The media has told us what’s important and what’s not, what to think and what not to think, who to vote for and who to vote against. Obama supporters all over the country are bullying opposition because they have a different point of view.
Does anyone see a pattern emerging with the fanaticism of Obama mania?

Posted by: JS NYC | October 23, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Stop blogging folks….get on your knees and pray, pray hard for a miracle. 12 to pray, you can do it. God can do it. Probably our only hope. If we care enough to pray God will care enough to answer us.

Posted by: CCH | October 23, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

“If you make less than a quarter-million dollars a year — which includes 98 percent of all small business owners — you won’t see your taxes increase one single dime. Not your income taxes, not your payroll taxes, not your capital gains taxes. Nothing. That is my commitment to you.” – Barack Obama 23 Oct 08 (Indiana)

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

NEW YORK — Scott McClellan, President Bush’s former press secretary, says he is backing Barack Obama for president.
McClellan made the endorsement during a taping of Comedian D.L. Hughley’s new show that is premiering on CNN this weekend. The former Bush administration official said he wanted to support the candidate that has the best chance for changing the way Washington works and getting things done.
He’s the second former Bush administration figure this week to publicly back Obama, following former Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Posted by: pefros | October 23, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

pefros… this perfectly illustrates how much you want to believe the lie. In the same breath that he says all of us under $250K will not see our taxes raised a dime, he states that he will repeal the Bush tax cuts.
I am a family of 3 making about $52K, if all of my bonuses are made. I got a tax cut with Bush. If Obama repeals those cuts, or allows congress to let them expire, MY TAXES WILL GO UP MORE THAN A DIME!!!! How can you not understand this?????

Posted by: mixjuan | October 23, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

I’m voting against the Communist.

Posted by: Chris | October 23, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Wow so many negative comments. Some made up incidents, abusive langage, all the Republican way. I am praying for God’s will to be done too. I think he will bless us with someone who we need for this terrible time we face. God bless us all and I pray for Obama and his family as he flies to see his very gravely ill grandmother.

Posted by: Pat | October 23, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

In 2002, the Obamas earned $226,300. Adjusted for inflation, that’s more than a quarter of a million 2008 dollars–an income so great it’s worthy of a tax increase, according to Obama.
Yet in 2002, Obama felt so poor that he contributed less than 1/2 of 1% of his income to charity.
A righteous wind? Please.

Posted by: WylieD | October 23, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

The Democrat (Obama) tax plan, as written, will not raise taxes rates on the middle class. However, the Dems are determined to to rescind the evil Bush temporary tax relief measures. Net effect is the middle class will pay more taxes. It’s a manipulation of facts and words. They (Dems) probably won’t continue to provide annual legislative relief for the alternative minimum tax requirement either. That’s a lot of additional tax revenue to spread around to those who really need the money. In short, if you are happy with what has been done, or not done, by the Democratically controlled Congress for the past several years, you will probably be very happy with Obama in the White House. The Dems in Congress sure will. They’ll control him every step of the way.

Posted by: Chas | October 23, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Dear Barack-
I’m a small business person who should reach that $250K in income in the next couple of years (God and the free market willing) I can’t vote for you because you will punish me for working hard to attain my goals. It sucks that the higher I climb, the more you’ll take and give to someone who has no desire to get out and work hard. Instead, why not support religious organizations who operate on the tenant of doing unto others. Charity and care for the poor is God’s work, not the government’s.

Posted by: Bloozer | October 23, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

The only thing worse that a “tax-and-spend” Democrat is a “spend-and-don’t-tax” Republican. That’s how we got $10 trillion in debt and a cratering economy. Folks, we’ve been living beyond our means and must either cut services and entitlements way back or increase revenues. McPain can’t do either.

Posted by: Nemo | October 23, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Dear Bloozer (or is it Boozer?),
I already make three times more than you do, and I will be voting for Obama.

Posted by: Julie | October 23, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

I do smell a righteous Messiah wind of
socialism.

Posted by: Hal | October 23, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Here in the real Virginia, the rest of us would call “a righteous wind at our back” a big fart.

Posted by: BB | October 23, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Isn’t interesting that all these “former Bush” folks are endorsing Obama? That begs the question, who is that more of an indictment of? I thought Obama didn’t want 4 more years of Bush, yet he accepts these endorsements. More of the same=Obama.

Posted by: Chris | October 23, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Most of the wind comes out of Obama’s mouth.

Posted by: Bill | October 23, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

The right wing commentary will just get more and more ideological and indeed hysterical. It will continue to try to paint Obama what he is not. It will continue to try to destroy his character. That is their only hope. It is not going to work.
To those who spouting Socialist. Well, if Obama is a socialist, then McCain and Bush are bush-wacking Pirates, dressed in business suits. In league with those running some of the the large businesses these days with “golden parachutes”, with special note of the oil companies, car companies and the investment banks. All of them crying “deregulation, deregulation”, “self regulation, self regulation”, “limits to liability”, “limits to liability”, etc….
The American people are starting to tune out the Republican Party. And rightly so. I think the reason is obvoius – America as a Nation trumps the Republican Party. Many are starting to see through the Republican facade. William Buckley Jr. gets it, Colin Powell really gets it, but the Party Leaders and demagogues do not – especially people like Rush, Bush, Bachmann and and de Rothschild. The Party is so imbued in its own Propaganda, in its own sense of Superiority and Self Righteousness, that it has indeed lost its way.
The Party has something of a Maoist sentiment of being the ruling Party and the Ruling Class. In spite of the dissent of most of the Nation. Real Republicans need to seize the levers of the Party, tear it down and rebuild from the grass roots up. Its ownership is too centered in selfish ideological hands and its philosophy has gone Piratical; way too right wing. I think it is way out of the mainstream. For so long it has been there, and held its ground by moving the mainstream and demonizing the left. No more.
I believe that Republicans do not have a lock on conservatism – indeed, Obama is a true pragmatist and he knows that you need to be fiscally conservative to be more socially liberal. Otherwise it does not add up. He is not really a liberal. Obama and the Democrats also understand you can’t let the Foxes run the Hen Houses, and certainly not under self policing policies. And certainly not with limits on liability if they eat all the Hens and can’t replace them when caught.
Republicans today do not understand the concept of collective. This is mostly because they are the ones that are benefiting from the Caveman’s survival of the fittest ideas and the “ownership” society. They have the money and the power and they view and work politics to maintain it. They feel entitled and they pay lip service to social policies while generally demonizing them as being something unAmerican. When, indeed America needs to shift away from the extreme right wing to a more common sense approach.
Republican Party leaders and their rich backers want to keep giving the mainstream masses a wind up toy. A Bush, a Palin, a McCain or any Barbie or Ken will do. Just dress ‘em up and get ‘em talkin’ just like ole “Joe Six Pack” and “Joe the Plumber” whoever that is. Its sure not you or me. Let them think their leaders are just like you. This has kept the masses happy, while Republicans and cronies eat the Hens.
Of course, when the Hens are noticed missing, it will be someone else’ fault. Probably the Democrats somehow, it does not matter how, or someone in Iraq. No wait, it might be Putin, or possibly its Castro, no wait he’s almost dead, okay then, Chavez …… Or maybe that Muslim Arab Socialist African Malaysian Hawaiian and UnAmerican Obama…… And so the tomfoolery goes……..
Liberals are not socialists. The latter is a word sullied by dictators and megalomaniacs. Theirs’ is a false concept of socialism, used for selfish gain and to keep the masses poor and in chains. As McCain has said – strong backs, or the backbone of America is that American laborer. A back strong enough to carry the malarkey called Republican Conservatism or, I think, Piratical Conservative is more fitting.
There is no stronger Nation than one with a well run economic engine. One that is fairly and sensibly regulated. One that shares the wealth equitably. One that is built on morally sound incentive systems for its operators. One with a collective advancement and support system for all its members.
Republicans as much or more than any others will tell you that you don’t send into battle men without protection and weapons. You don’t send men that are unskilled and untrained in the use of weapons. You don’t win battles by leaving your compatriots unprotected. And you don’t leave the weak and wounded behind. Their rescue is the mark of heroes. If its heroic in the battlefields of war, why not so in the battlefields of life?
America is indeed headed for a brighter future with Obama than with McCain.

Posted by: PaulStewart9 | October 23, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

YEAH AND THE WIND STINKS!! Must be coming from the Communist mass graves! Come on people, hasn’t history taught you a thing? Commuisum does not work. The wealth gets spread around alright! Into the political bosses pockets and the people become slaves…..When I look at Obama, I do not see a black man, I see a Communist!!

Posted by: William | October 23, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Obama is going to loose! End of Story! All his communist friends at the Newsless Networks and Newsless Papers can not get We The People to vote for a Communist, and that is what Obama is! He is not a socialist, a black man being discriminated against, nor a Messiah being denied, HE IS A COMMUNIST!!

Posted by: broadwaybill | October 23, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

“If its heroic in the battlefields of war, why not so in the battlefields of life?”
Because good soldiers carry their weight, are part of a team, and strive to be the best and most successful. In life there are those that choose not to carry their weight, look out only for themselves, and cry when they cannot reap the rewards of those that have.

Posted by: JWZ | October 23, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Yep Obama, you do. And it’s called – CBS, ABC, NBC.
What gets me is the free ride these guys are getting. Joe Biden declared a few weeks back, “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and … said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’”
Nice historical reference. Except when the market crashed in 1929, Hoover was president, and there was no television.
Can one imagine what the press would have done to Sarah Palin had she exhibited such ignorance of history. Or Dan Quayle?
Obama and Joe both get a pass because everybody likes them.
The problem is they are trained debaters who never had to make a tough decision in their lives. They have spent their entire lives coddled in the most exclusive boys clubs on the planet. Harvard and the US Congress.
I still can’t believe the media didn’t investigate and report on te cause of the financial meltdown. It’s your US congress who for the last 2 years has been under the guidance of the democrats. I guess when you say something long enough and loud enough, the dullards start to believe it.
So this is how America ends, with a whimper, not a bang

Posted by: Brock | October 24, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

While I will be pulling the level for McCain/Palin, I won’t be doing so with the strongest of convictions. I will; however, be voting for what is, I believe, the “safest” option for America. America needs to step back and look at their ideologies. It’s not a “right or wrong” approach to voting that one should have, but a “what is best for this nation” approach.
Do I make more than 250K a year, no, but should those that have worked hard and realized the “American Dream” be penalized, absolutely not. Sure there are those that receive unjustified sums of money for doing not much, but there are many individuals that have accomplished the goal of making themselves successful. I truly believe that not only is Barak Obama not experienced, nor qualified, enough to be president, I believe that he is too blinded by the concepts of the left to be the “transformational figure” that many make him out to be.
I truly don’t want John McCain to be president. But I sure as he*@ don’t want Barak Obama to be president. The freedoms afforded me, my family, and all other American’s are, I believe, at stake in the event that Mr. Obama is elected. There are bleak times on the horizon and I don’t believe that Barak Obama has the desire or intestinal fortitude to bring us back into the light.
(This from a socially liberal, financially conservative American)

Posted by: Dave B | October 24, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Just plain common sense as well as reading it in the wall street Journal that it is absolutely impossible for Barrack Obama to fund all these programs he says he will put into motion as well give us a tax credit again (democrats) and do all this by just raising taxes on people who make 250k or more. I know Obama supporters don’t like to hear that,not attacking Obama but it is documented that it cant be done just taxing the 250k and above, Like the article said the cap is going to drop after he gets into office and than he’ll explain why he lowered the salery range. To bad people are blinded by how somebody speaks or looks if they just pick up a paper and read. sad

Posted by: Pete | October 24, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

If Obama wins, and the Democrats hold a filibuster-proof house and senate, this great experiment called the United States of America will be over. We will join the Socialist countries of Europe, and will no longer be the shining city on a hill.

Posted by: NDSue | October 24, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

“I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here.” THERE IS NOT ONE DAMN THING THAT EVEN COMES TO RIGHTEOUS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO “SPREAD THE WEALTH”. UNLESS SOMEONE THINKS THAT KARL MARX WAS SOMEHOW RIGHTEOUS.

Posted by: Terry | October 24, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Who cares about Colon Powell! So what? Do you demorats realize that a former Vice Presidential candidate from 8 years ago is going against his party and backing McCain. That trumps any press secretary or lefty State Department bureaucrat any day.

Posted by: Mike | October 24, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Pure capitalism and socialism/communism aren’t the only choices folks. Obama’s plans protect working people and would benefit them more than McCain’s plans. People are too dumb to understand that, though.

Posted by: Nina | October 24, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

Where I come from? What Obama refers to as… a “Righteous wind at our backs?”
If that happens? We say, “excuse me!”
if anyone is caught standing near by.

Posted by: Gene Z. | October 24, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

You do not have to go very far away, or even look back at all to see the results of a left wing socialist agenda.
You only have to look at Hugo Chavez and what he has done to Venezuela.

Posted by: Jimmy Jenkins | October 24, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am

You didn’t quote the whole thing, Jake.

Posted by: aoeu y. snth | October 24, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am

A “righteous wind” is one that blows away all in its path. Be careful what you wish for. Change for the sake of change is revolution. The one thing we don’t want to change is the Constitution. Obama will undo it.

Posted by: Rob Diego | October 24, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am

Note to all you liberals who are defending ‘the one’ and the Demorats in Congress….you DO realize, do you not, that in spite of what the MSM has told you, up until 2006, when the Dims took control of Congress, our economy was growing at record rates…GDP was UP! unemployment was at RECORD LOWS! Wall St. was soaring!
Then the Dims took control of Congress and – hmmm! – all of a sudden the bottom falls out…Has anyone else out there considered teh possibility that this crash was MANIPULATED by the Dims in Congress – they have hated Bush from Day 1 of his first administration (that’s because all their voter fraud still couldn’t beat him! – and all the money they spent to BUY the election did not win!) Isn’t just a bit curious that this collapse happened RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION? and, of course, it’s so easy to blame Bush and “de-regulation” – but there’s a major problem with this stance…which even most talk radio has not properly addressed! BUSH ASKED FOR MORE REGULATION…but Frank, Dodd and crowd (who got MAJOR BUCKS from Fannie and Freddie) would not allow ANY regulation legislation to even come out of committee…for those who don’t understand what that means….it means that the Dims would NOT allow the Senate and/or House to vote on regulations….becasue they WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN! (it helps them…therefore it does NOT matter how many ‘little guys’ were hurt by this…if it helps them win the election, it’s okay in their eyes!) after all, THEY GOT THEIR BIG BUCKS! Raines et all got their BIG BUCKS in bonuses and other “considerations” for – hmmm! new concept here folks….destroy a successful corporation anD make billions in bonuses! SO IT DOESN’T HURT THE SENATORS who REFUSED to allow further regulation (even as they blame Bush for de-regulation!) It doesn’t hurt the CEO and other big wigs in F & F-they still get their megabucks ‘golden parachutes’ – now these same Senators make noise about stopping the golden parachutes….but they have done NOTHING about it! Raines, Johnson adn that whole gang fade quietly into the background with their millions and millions…the Dims come up shining for LYING OUTRIGHT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! and now all you sheeple are willing to vote for MORE OF THE SAME POLICY THAT DESTROYED AN ECONOMY THAT WAS ACTUALLY BOOMING (AND WAS THE ENVY OF EUROPEAN NATIONS) JUST TWO SHORT YEARS AGO….UNTIL the dims took over!
OPEN YOUR EYES! If you plan to vote for Obama….THINK and if so inclined PRAY on it…God would not have you vote for someone who encourages adn will legislate so many sins against the Bible…abortion, gay marriage – the list could go on….
DO NOT BE SHEEPLE….socialism has NEVER worked in the entire history of man! the ONLY people helped by it are those ‘chosen’ to “lead” – their pockets are well lined with your money while you will be in bread lines!

Posted by: LitlBits | October 24, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

THE PERFECT STORM FOR A DEPRESSION …
A far left Media …
A far left President …
A far left Congress …
A far left Senate …
A far left Supreme Court …
This would eliminate all the checks and
balances that our democracy is based upon.
Barack Obama formed his political and economic
ideology, and his radical associations, during the
TWENTY YEARS … yes, that’s TWENTY YEARS … when
he followed Marxist Black Liberation Theology, in
Jeremiah Wright’s anti-American, racist church.
And, now, with our country on the brink of depression,
Obama wants to impose new laws which would change
America into a third world country.
You may be upset with George Bush, but in spite
of Obama’s slogans, John McCain is NOT George Bush …
so don’t over react to Obama’s 600 million dollar
Propaganda campaign designed to highjack America !!!
A vote for Obama is a vote for changing America beyond
recognition … and, it would be a vote for voter fraud,
a corrupt media, socialism, and the end to America as we know it.
Keep America free, strong, safe, and American …
Elect McCain/Palin on November 4th.

Posted by: Howard | October 24, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Note to Penny:
regarding Palin’s qualifications…she is ACTUALLY far more qualified than Obama – or Biden….because she already has EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE – running a city AND a state…MEETING PAYROLL, BUDGET – and (something our Congress can’t seem to do!) came up with a budget SURPLUS – which she rightfully returned to the citizens of Alaska…
don’t buy the lack of qualifications…she’s just not a Washington insider….all the better. Her approval rate as governor of Alaska is the HIGHEST APPROVAL RATING of any governor in this country!
THAT IS HONEST, REAL QUALIFICATION…Obama is NOT EVEN QUALIFIED AS A CITIZEN – and he should not be running…if this is proven AFTER the election, we will have a mess on our hands…HE IS DESTROYING OUR CONSTITUTION – before he even gets into office…suggested reading: The Constitution, the Declaration of Independence

Posted by: LitlBits | October 24, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Hey all you spread the Wealth people lets have a flat tax across the board. So everyone pays the same percent if it is 8% or even 20% that would be fair.

Posted by: USCITIZEN_04 | October 24, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Wow, Republicans are getting dumber and more desperate every day. You go right ahead and stay in the 20th century while the rest of us move into the 21st. We’re Americans, and we’re proud, and we’re voting for Obama.

Posted by: StripedCat | October 24, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

As they fall behind they are getting McDesperate. A McCain campaign volunteer made up a story of being robbed, pinned to the ground and having the letter “B” scratched on her face in a politically inspired attack, police said Friday. Ashley Todd, 20-year-old college student from College Station, Texas, admitted Friday that the story was false and was being charged with making a false report to police, said Maurita Bryant, the assistant chief of the police department’s investigations division. Police doubted her story from the start, Bryant said.

Posted by: USCITIZEN_04 | October 24, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

This seems about right.
According to B. Hussein Obamas’ “friend in the neighborhood”, terrorist William Ayers, “You don’t have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing”.
Thanks for reminding us B. Hussein Obama…

Posted by: Frank the Fireman | October 25, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Translation:
A self-righteous, sanctimonious, smug, pompous, haughty wind at Obama’s back or, a great gust of distasteful hot air! :)

Posted by: aware2u | October 26, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Well said Howard!
THE PERFECT STORM FOR A DEPRESSION …
A far left Media …
A far left President …
A far left Congress …
A far left Senate …
A far left Supreme Court …
This would eliminate all the checks and
balances that our democracy is based upon.
Barack Obama formed his political and economic
ideology, and his radical associations, during the
TWENTY YEARS … yes, that’s TWENTY YEARS … when
he followed Marxist Black Liberation Theology, in
Jeremiah Wright’s anti-American, racist church.
And, now, with our country on the brink of depression,
Obama wants to impose new laws which would change
America into a third world country.
You may be upset with George Bush, but in spite
of Obama’s slogans, John McCain is NOT George Bush …
so don’t over react to Obama’s 600 million dollar
Propaganda campaign designed to highjack America !!!
A vote for Obama is a vote for changing America beyond
recognition … and, it would be a vote for voter fraud,
a corrupt media, socialism, and the end to America as we know it.
Keep America free, strong, safe, and American …
Elect McCain/Palin on November 4th.
Posted by: Howard

Posted by: aware2u | October 26, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Righteous wind? Man, Obama isn’t even being subtle anymore.
Famous quote from Chairman Mao:
“The ill wind of opportunism is falling, the righteous wind of socialism is on the rise.
By the end of this year the victory of socialism will be greatly assured. Naturally there will be many struggles ahead and we must struggle hard.”

Posted by: Mary | November 3, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

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