By Jaketapper

Oct 6, 2008 12:05am

Obama to Attack McCain on Role in “Keating 5″ Scandal, Despite Previous Statement it isn’t “Germane”

On Monday the Obama campaign will start hitting Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., on his role in the late 80s/early 90s Keating 5 scandal, despite previous indications by Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill, made months ago, that the scandal was not "germane" to the presidency because McCain had apologized for his role.

Coming off two events — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin attacking Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for his controversial associate William Ayers, and Wall Street’s financial crisis — the idea put forward by the Obama campaign is: ‘You want to discuss questionable associates, Sen. McCain? Let’s discuss questionable associates.’

In an email sent to supporters Sunday evening with the subject line "What they don’t want to talk about," Obama campaign manager David Plouffe wrote that, "During the savings and loan crisis of the late ’80s and early ’90s," Plouffe wrote, "McCain’s political favors and aggressive support for deregulation put him at the center of  the fall of Lincoln Savings and Loan, one of the largest in the country. …The McCain campaign has tried to avoid talking about the scandal, but with so many parallels to the current crisis, McCain’s Keating history is relevant and voters deserve to know the facts — and see for themselves the pattern of poor judgment by John McCain"

Monday at noon at the website "Keating Economics.com," the Obama campaign will launch a 13-minute film it is calling a “documentary” called "Keating Economics: John McCain and the Making of a Financial Crisis."

A 35-second preview can be seen HERE.

“Fraud is the creation of trust and its betrayal,” says William Black, former deputy director of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation, in the video. “The Keating Five involved all the things that have brought the modern crisis. Senator McCain has not learned the lessons, and has continued to follow policies that are going to produce a disaster.”

Black was in attendance at an April 9, 1987 meeting when McCain, Sens. Dennis DeConcini, D-Ariz., Alan Cranston, D-Calif., John Glenn, D-Ohio, and Don Riegle, D-Mich. – soon to be nicknamed the “Keating Five” — met with Federal Home Loan Bank Board regulators to dissuade them from seizing Lincoln Savings and Loan, part of the empire of Charles Keating, a contributor to their campaigns.

The Senate Ethics Committee ultimately cited McCain for “poor judgment” in meeting with those regulators on Keating’s behalf, though his actions was also deemed "not improper nor attended with gross negligence." Keating ultimately went to prison for fraud and McCain became active in campaign finance reform, almost a form of public penance.

"The appearance of it was wrong," McCain later told the Arizona Republic. "It’s a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do…I was judged eventually, after three years, of using, quote, poor judgment, and I agree with that assessment."

Allies of McCain’s would later say that McCain was only included in the group because Democrats wanted the scandal to be bipartisan. ”McCain was going to remain their Republican hostage, no matter what,” wrote former Sen. Warren Rudman, R-NH, in his memoir, ”Combat.”

The new "Keating Economics" website attacking McCain on the scandal says: “The Keating scandal is eerily similar to today’s credit crisis, where a lack of regulation and cozy relationships between the financial industry and Congress has allowed banks to make risky loans and profit by bending the rules. And in both cases, John McCain’s judgment and values have placed him on the wrong side of history.”

Obama didn’t use to hold such a strong opinion on the controversy. Before the Democratic primary in Oregon in May, Obama appeared at an event alongside Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., who said of McCain, "he says we need less regulation. Hello! Wall Street mortgage meltdown, Bear Stearns taxpayer bailout, Enron, but, you know, I guess maybe for a guy who was up to his neck in the Keating Five and savings and loan scandal, less regulation is better."

Obama was that month asked about DeFazio’s remarks, and he distanced himself from them.

"Congressman DeFazio obviously delivered a speech that wasn’t, uh, wasn’t my speech," Obama said. "I don’t have any doubt that John McCain’s public record about issues that he’s apologized for and written about is not germane to the presidency."

That said, Obama noted that he "was just asked previously about a whole host of issues and associations that were a lot more flimsy than John McCain’s relationship to Keating Five. What I’ve said is, you know, I can’t quarrel with the American people wanting to know more about that and me having to answer questions about that."

Asked about Obama’s previous implication that he wouldn’t attack McCain on the Keating 5 scandal, Obama spokesman Bill Burton said, "John McCain once said he would run a respectful and honorable campaign — but now his campaign says that he wants to turn the page on the economy and make character assaults.  That’s his choice.  But on this issue, his involvement in the Keating scandal is relevant to the economic crisis we find ourselves in."

Plouffe wrote in his email that the "point of the film and the web site is that John McCain still hasn’t learned his lesson…It’s no wonder John McCain would rather spend the last month of this election smearing Barack’s character instead of talking about the top priority issue for voters."

– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

UPDATE: McCain-Palin campaign spox Brian Rogers emails: "The difference here is clear: John McCain has been open and honest about the Keating matter, and even the Democratic special counsel in charge recommended that Senator McCain be completely exonerated. By contrast, Barack Obama has been fundamentally dishonest about his friendship and work with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, whose radical group bombed the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol. Nor has Barack Obama come clean on his close friendship with Tony Rezko, a felon convicted on bribery charges who subsidized the purchase of Barack Obama’s home. It’s obvious that Barack Obama is frantically attacking because he knows that most voters find these kinds of friendships, and the failed judgment they expose, to be unacceptable for our next president."

User Comments

Go Get ‘em Obama!

Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

The Keating 5 thing would be a total farce and typical of Barack’s sound bite, un-nuanced campaign…McCain was exonerated of any wrongdoing…Keating had everyone fooled…

Posted by: Wade | October 6, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

McCain was not exonerated, he was admonished for it.
hint: admonished does not mean exonerated.

Posted by: blakec | October 6, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

McCain can’t complain – he’s the one who said he’s “taking the gloves off”.
I for one am tired of his “everyone knows how great I am, why are you questioning me” attitude. If you’re running for President (and yes, Governor Palin, even VP) then you need to understand you are working for us and it is not too much to ask that you answer some frickin’ questions that you might not like.

Posted by: MIguy | October 6, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

At one point before the general election began, one John McCain was heard to say that he would run an honorable campaign. His wife in May 2008 said that her husband’s campaign would run no negative ads. Well, we all see how that has turned out.
McCain has no business playing the guilt by association game. He has far more questionable associations than Barack Obama. He is desperate and instead of talking about what he plans to do as president (Bush III anyone?), he is going to attack. It’s what you do when you have nothing else to offer. McCain is a complete disgrace. If he manages to win after using such tactics, I truly wish him luck because he will need it.

Posted by: mary | October 6, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

McCain’s campaign decided to go down the slippery slope of who has worse associates in their past. Charles Keating and the S&L crisis is a smaller version of the mortgage crisis of today. I think Palin opened Pandora’s box (“he pals around with terrorists”) and the Obama campaign is ready to fight fire with fire.

Posted by: glass houses | October 6, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

The extremists behind Palin’s rise to office should be looked into as well. Connection with the savings and loan disaster is one more similarity between McCain and the Bushes–as in Neil Bush and Silverado S & L.

Posted by: bhciapol | October 6, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

An eye for an eye. If this is what MsShame wants, this is exactly what he will get. Hold your ass Palin, you’re next!

Posted by: obee | October 6, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

WAS ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BARACK OBAMA IS A NICE GUY,BUT HE IS NOT STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY WANT SMEAR ,THEN THERE WILL BE A GOOD SPARING.

Posted by: justme | October 6, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Yeah Wade, kinda like Obama and Ayers. Ever heard the saying, “What’s good for the gander is good for the goose”?

Posted by: JR | October 6, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

It is a Pandora’s Box If they start attacking Obama. What about Cindy McCain’s past drug use, what about Cindy flirting with McCain when he was still married to his first wife. What about Charlie Black? What about Keating five? What about McCain association with Phil Gramm?
McCain has a lot to answer for and the gloves are off now. Read about Phil Gramm’s involvement in the current mortgage crisis and you’ll be sick.

Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

“McCain was not exonerated, he was admonished for it.
Posted by: blakec | Oct 6, 2008 12:14:13 AM
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THE ONLY ONES WERE WEREN’T EXONERATED…. WERE DEMOCRATS!

Posted by: CANDOR | October 6, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Obama can take the gloves off too!

Posted by: Kathy | October 6, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

If news broke tomorrow that a Senator had used his influence over regulators to give a major donor and and his wife’s business partner a break on regulation then that donor went belly up while stealing billions of dollars, that Senator would end up in jail. This is very relevant. If the corporate media wasn’t so right wing this would have been brought forth well before McCain was chosen. I wonder if they will continue to ignore it? Yesterday, after hearing about Ayers I googled “Keating” in the news and only got 1400 stories (compared to 6600 with “Ayers”). I really wonder how the corporate media is going to keep covering this up.

Posted by: Chris | October 6, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Those who thought Obama would roll over and be Kerry Redux will now see they were mistaken.

Posted by: BMS | October 6, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

What P U M A has to say about our decision to vote for John Mccain:
“The true story of why such an incredible stateswoman was kicked to the curb to pave the way for Obama (unqualified at best, dangerous at worst) will be told one day, and it will be as shocking, dismaying, and egregious as this election.
I want my candidate back. I want my country back. I want honesty, and honor, and integrity back.
I will be voting for McCain/Palin. I hope when McCain wins, and Obama loses, both parties (which have been radicalized by extreme elements) will be pulled more toward the moderate center, and rid of corruption.”
P U M A
We still are democrats. You are are the ones who changed.

Posted by: Democrats No More | October 6, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

McCain wants to play guilt by association, well 2 can play at this game. Go Obama

Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

The Reps have a kitchen sink full of ugly LIES, ready to unload over the media and constituency in next few days.
The Dems are NOT without ammunitions.
We Dems do a have bath tub full of beautiful TRUTHS, that we are going to unload over the media and constituency in the next few days, and the Reps are NOT going to like it. The Roves, Palins, and other r.a.t.s are going to jump out of the ship as soon as they see it sinking at full speed !!!
Just wait and see !!!
Lets the fireworks start !!!!

Posted by: skyglider2008 | October 6, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Fight baby fight!
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Angela | October 6, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

This country needs to be blanketed with Keating Five for the next month. Write stories on your blogs. Write letters to the editors of your local papers. Send emails to all your friends. When McCain/Palin hit, we have to hit back 100 times harder.

Posted by: Maria | October 6, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Way to go Palin – You probably just cost McCain the election with the stupid comments yesterday. Obama has been incredibly intelligent throughout this campaign in how he has dealt with these attacks. He could have used this a long time ago, but he waited until he truly needed it, which with 4 weeks left to go and the economy in turmoil – one could not ask for better timing. McCain was playing with fire and just got burned.

Posted by: Becca | October 6, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Whatever McCain’s romantic entanglements with the lobbyist Vicki Iseman, he was clearly in bed with her clients, who donated nearly $85,000 to his campaigns. One of her clients, Bud Paxson, set up a meeting with McCain in 1999, frustrated by the FCC’s delay of his proposed takeover of a television station in Pittsburgh. Paxson had treated McCain well, offering the then-presidential candidate use of his corporate jet to fly to campaign events and ponying up $20,000 in campaign donations.
“You’re the head of the commerce committee,” Paxson told McCain, according to The Washington Post. “The FCC is not doing its job. I would love for you to write a letter.”
Iseman helped draft the text, and McCain sent the letter. Several weeks later — the day after McCain used Paxson’s jet to fly to Florida for a fundraiser — McCain wrote another letter. FCC chair William Kennard sent a sharp rebuke to McCain, calling the senator’s meddling “highly unusual.” Nonetheless, within a week of McCain’s second letter, the FCC ruled three-to-two in favor of Paxson’s deal.

Posted by: Chris | October 6, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Well, to paraphrase Kurt Russell in “Tombstone”…
McCain called down the thunder….
He wanted to play bad dog….now he can’t complain when he gets bit.
I hate to see Senator Obama be forced to do this, but he didn’t have much choice.
McCain has a whole host of less than savory characters in his past. If you can’t take having your associates scrutinized, then it is best to not open the door. McCain underestimated Barack. He thought because he had taken a reaming in the past that he would continue to do so.
Just because he had chosen not to use those tactics didn’t mean he couldn’t use them.
Wonder if McCain will call Barack naive on Tuesday?

Posted by: Southern IL | October 6, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Yeah baby!

Posted by: mila | October 6, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

McCain’s tactic to have Palin throw out “Obama pals around with terrorists” has provided the Obama campaign with an opening to highlight McCain’s most egregious use of deregulation. I think they’ve underestimated the resolve of the Obama campaign once again.
It’s tactics not strategy with campaign McCain.

Posted by: glass steagall houses | October 6, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

How stupid is McCain! Palin is married to a radical! Todd Palin was member in the AIP Alaska Independence Party radical fringe succesionist movement as for 7 years! The AIP wants to steal our oil – now that is some energy policy!

Posted by: kirslis | October 6, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

RE: Mccain and the Keating Five:
“After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings.
Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised “poor judgment”. (WIKIPEDIA)
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The only ones N O T cleared…. were the DEMOCRAtS ;-)
MCCAIN AND PALIN
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!

Posted by: CANDOR | October 6, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Cindy McCain and her father were in business with Keating. John McCain received many trips from Keating without paying, along with money for his campaign. McCain admitted his wrongdoing. He now is desperate and trying to tie Obama to an anti- Viet Nam War radical, who decades later supported Obama (Obama did not support him). These Rovian tactics will be hit head on with the truth. The McCainiacts along with their lipsgtick smeared attack dog have just stepped in their own manure. Let the fun begin.

Posted by: lxg | October 6, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

I could care less about old news K5 that has no relevance to what is or will be like Obama’s continual covering up of everything from birth cert, to univ. transcripts, to accepting terrorist money. I’m more afraid of what these “donors” are expecting from him if he wins. I’m more afraid of his associations with Wright and his obvious anti American hate mongering and the Obama Youth.
White collar greed, found innocent, but acknowledged wrong doing– McCain
OR
Treason, aiding and abetting the enemy, unwilling to accept guilt– Obama.
The choice is simple.

Posted by: Emm | October 6, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

Now John McCain is going to get what’s coming to him for lying about running an honorable campaign.
McCain had Palin play Ayers, so we’ll go Keating.
You want to play Raines again? How about Rick Davis and your entire campaign staff?
You want to try Jeremiah Wright? I’ll see your Wright and raise you one Muthee and Palin’s ties to a secessionist organization.
Bring out another one, we’ve got Phil Gramm.
You decide to go down this road, Sen. McCain, you’ve got no one to blame but yourself when it blows up in your face.
Obama will come out at the debate and say that anytime you want to talk about the issues we’ll talk about the issues, but if you want to talk about character you should spend some time in a room with a mirror, Senator McCain.

Posted by: Jim Sweet | October 6, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

Hum…you McCainiacs think Keating 5 doesn’t matter? Old news? Hanging around with felons is ok? How’s about this?
There’s McCain’s association with G. Gordon Liddy:
Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.)
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy’s radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled “John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07″ includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an “old friend.” During the segment, McCain praised Liddy’s “adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,” said he was “proud” of Liddy, and said that “it’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program.”

Posted by: Southern IL | October 6, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

Obama has answered the questions regarding Ayres and Rezko but apparently that isn’t the issue for McCain LOL Someone needs to tell the senile peanut that you don’t poke the beast and “associations”? are the beast because he and the failed beauty queen have some doozies too!
Palin should never have gone there yesterday. She did and now fair is fair.

Posted by: Debbie | October 6, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

Yeah, go get ‘em, Obama.
All of your illegal fundraising, your shady real estate deals, your funneling of money to Ayers and his radical groups, your funneling of taxpayer “pork” dollars to the hospital your wife works for, and your friend Larry Walsh who the FBI is now interested in, and your “community organizers/ACORN” roles in the current financial crisis.

Posted by: Lee | October 6, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

McCain = Keating 5
McCain = Deregulation crisis 2008
McCain voted for deregulation 55 times.
I think MANY will find this “association” relevent.

Posted by: Debbie | October 6, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

LOL Fundraising? that’s rich. Normal everyday Joe six packs have given to his campaign and this will turn out to be nothing more than another tactic (another failed one) that McCain is using to take the attention off of his inability to win! LOL But hey good luck with that GOP! waste MORE tax payer money!

Posted by: Debbie | October 6, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

I think MANY will find this “association” relevent.”
Posted by: Debbie | Oct 6, 2008 12:54:59 AM
__________________________
I think not!
McCain and Palin.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!

Posted by: CANDOR | October 6, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

i hear the McCain/Palin death rattle. talk about desperation!!

Posted by: pat | October 6, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Palin has a close relationship with a radical anti-American: Todd Palin, Longtime Former AIP Member—Alaskan Independence Party
Palin’s husband Todd was a member of the AIP from Oct 95 through Jul 02, except for a few months in 2000. He is currently undeclared.
third-party, Alaska First—Alaska Always, that wants Alaskans to get a vote on whether or not the state can secede from the U.S. Her husband was a long-time member, and at least two AIP officials recall her attending the 1994 convention, though she says she did not attend
Todd Palin broke the law by ignoring the subpoena for trooper investigation

Posted by: Jim | October 6, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am

you’re right..it’s only relevant who a republican associates with.

Posted by: zeke | October 6, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Ok, how about another person that McCain associated with…sat on a board with I believe…
Google this fellow:
John Singlaub
Seems like the type of American that McCain likes to call friend.
McCain has opened Pandora’s Box. Many have kept quiet about these things as it was not the type of campaign that we hoped to run, but we are not going to sit around and let this stuff that McCain and Palin throw out go unchallenged. If they want to disagree on policy or ideals that is one thing; however, when you attack someone as being “unfit to serve” and un-patriotic, it is necessary to respond and to do so forcefully.

Posted by: Southern IL | October 6, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

mccain/palin are just grabbing at their last straws. we all know obama’s got this election in the bag.

Posted by: pete | October 6, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

You can raise this, see that, poker game all day. In the end, only one person is still in question. Obama. Still won’t come clean about anything. This will be his downfall.

Posted by: Emm | October 6, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

When it comes to questionable ethics regarding finances and the economy, who are you going to believe? The guy with 1 house and 1 car? Or the guy with 12 cars and “somewhere between 2 and 7″ houses?

Posted by: Rod M | October 6, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

how dare anyone question obama’s associates. we should’ve realized his connections are much much stronger. now we’re gonna pay. i hope you behaved yourself in pre-school mccain. the networks have reporters on the way to find out.

Posted by: zeke | October 6, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Obama will desperately need to change the subject after Hannity’s expose on his background and associations tonight. So, what better than a twenty year old investigation that found McCain innocent? That should really do the trick! While McCain was in Nam being held prisoner by the Commies, Obama was coming up in America or wherever he came from, being raised by a mom under the influence of Socialism and Communism. Is it any wonder that Obama turned to Saul Alinsky and Davis as his mentors? Toss in a little Ayers, Wright, Pflegar, Farrakhan, Khalid and Al Mosour, and wow, you got some GREAT background for turning America into a Socialist State! Let’s see, Keating Five and John McCain’s innocence, or Barack Obama and the ever growing list of corruption. Oh, let’s not forget Rezko, whom may be singing before sentencing.
WAKE UP AMERICA.
Obama is a NIGHTMARE.

Posted by: Brenda | October 6, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

Sounds like Barack Obama is trying to quickly turn the page on his connection to William Ayers.
What we have here is a failure to disassociate.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 6, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

Obama will be lucky if he doesn’t get indicted on treason once the strength of truth outweighs his weakness of denial.

Posted by: Emm | October 6, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

It wasn’t germane months ago but is now because of the financial crisis.
McCain has tried to improve his image since the Keating 5 scandal by fighting for campaign finance reform. But, as we’ve seen in this election, when you write the rules, you know how to bypass them.

Posted by: cincyr | October 6, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Yes, McCain is sort of like Hillary, the media has been rummaging through his baggage for years, and there probably isn’t much new and exciting there. McCain admits to his past mistakes, takes responsibility for them, and does not try to run or hide from them….
Obama is the unknown quantity here. He totally refuses to discuss his life during his college years, and misrepresents his life and relationships during recent years. When he is called on these discrepancies, he gets angry and defensive.
If there’s nothing to worry about, then why not bring it ALL out in the open??

Posted by: Lee | October 6, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

“G. Gordon Liddy. Now a conservative radio talk-show host, Liddy spent more than 4 years in prison for his role in the 1972 Watergate burglary.”
Liddy was a burglar… not a terrorist, and he paid for his crime!
Ayers KILLED people with his shenanigans and, as late as 9/11, said he hadn’t done enough!
MCCAIN AND PALIN!
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!

Posted by: CANDOR | October 6, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Do you honestly believe the american public will be fooled by RACIST HANNITY and FAUXNEWS who has been demonizing obama this whole year with LIES about Rev Wright, Plegar, Ayers, etc ..PLEASE SPARE ME..Hannity is a LIAR AND RACIST and nobody who has any intelligence would listen to his crap or believe a word that comes out of that creeps mouth. Obama poll numbers are going to SOAR cause people are SICK AND TIRED of RIGHT WING GARBAGE and the republicans who have destroyed our country.

Posted by: Lanae | October 6, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

“When it comes to questionable ethics regarding finances and the economy, who are you going to believe? The guy with 1 house and 1 car? Or the guy with 12 cars and “somewhere between 2 and 7″ houses?”
That’s the lamest description of choices I’ve heard yet.

Posted by: Emm | October 6, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Nice try Obama. Trying to equivocate an incident where McCain was cleared with Obama’s relationship with a domestic bomber. That’s not apples to apples Mr. Obama.
What we have here is a failure to disassociate!

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 6, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

lies about rev wright??? I’ve heard him speak myself…racist? now he’s a racist!

Posted by: zeke | October 6, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

With benefactors like Obama in office, ACORN has milked nearly four decades of government subsidies to prop up chapters that promote the welfare state and undermine the free market, as well as some that have been implicated in perpetuating illegal immigration and voter fraud. Milwaukee’s top election official announced plans to seek criminal investigations of 37 ACORN employees accused of offering gifts to sign up voters (including prepaid gas cards and restaurant cards) or falsifying driver’s license numbers, Social Security numbers or other information on voter registration cards.
ACORN’s political arm endorsed Obama in February and has ramped up efforts to register voters across the country. In the meantime, completely ignored by the mainstream commentariat and clean-election crusaders, the Obama campaign admitted failing to report $800,000 in campaign payments to ACORN. They were disguised as payments to a front group called “Citizen Services, Inc.” for “advance work.” ACORN has a long and sordid history of employing convoluted Enron-style accounting to illegally use taxpayer funds for their own political gain. Now it looks like ACORN is using the same type of convoluted accounting scheme for Obama’s political gain.” With a wave of his magic wand, Obama amended his FEC forms to change the “advance work” to “get-out-the-vote” work.
William Ayers is just the tip of the iceberg. Hopefully it all comes crashing down on Obama. We don’t need a socialist in office.

Posted by: Gargoyle | October 6, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

Hey Emmm,
Obama can surely afford 12 cars too. He pulled down a cool 4 mil last year. It’s Obama’s turn to get paid, right?
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What we have here is a failure to disassociate.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 6, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

Hey Nat Turner,
There you go with your attack based on age. Isn’t that a form of hate speech? Who are you supporting? Oh, yeah, Obama! I see the connection.
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What we have here is a failure to disassociate!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 6, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

I hate to see it come to this but there are more Characters that can be pointed at McCain.
The Keating Five has everything to do with the current economic situation, same abuse, greed caused the collapse of the S&Ls. McCain and his policies were involved then and he has the same policies today.
McCain announced he was going negative and he put the pit bull with lipstick on it today.
Whine all you want Repubs, but Johnny’s dirt is going to come out.
The difference is that it isn’t innuendo

Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

WOW!!! $800,000 in UNREPORTED donations to ACORN from the OBAMA campaign!!!!
I wonder how many dead and 14-year-old voters that money paid to register???

Posted by: Lee | October 6, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

“When it comes to questionable ethics regarding finances and the economy, who are you going to believe?
I’m not going believe Obama, he and the truth don’t seem to get along.

Posted by: Josef S | October 6, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Barack Obama saved this attack just in case McCain wanted to play guilt by association. McCain is doomed!

Posted by: Kathy | October 6, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Cynics, sing along with me!
Row row row your boats gently to DEEEFEEAT!
Merrily merrily merrily merrily, with all the crow you can EEEEEEEEAT!
Is this the best you guys have left? Looks equivalent to shooting a bb gun at a moving freight train. TICK!
On the other hand, Keating 5 is going to hit like a Mack Truck running over a Yugo.
Silly neanderthals, tricks are for kids.
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 6, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Apples and oranges, Kathy. McCain was not only cleared, he admitted to wrong doing. Obama is the one doomed because his crimes are treasonous and unrepented.

Posted by: Emm | October 6, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

i wish that we could have a presidential campaign without this kind of nonsense…wouldn’t it be nice to have a campaign decided on actual issues, not attack politics?
i started to outline gov. palin and sen mccain’s dubious connections and choices, and realised that that is precisely what i don’t wish to be a part of.
obama has a vision of a future for our country that i can support. mccain has destroyed his good name in his pursuit of the white house. pity. 8 years ago, i might have voted for him, because at that time, he was the one with the vision.

Posted by: antijake | October 6, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

Does Obama have any associations that are not far left based?

Posted by: Kremlin | October 6, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

Carl H. Lindner Jr. — Lindner co-hosted in 2008 a $25,000-per-person fundraiser for McCain in the wealthy Indian Hills neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio, raisign $2 million. Lindner also serves on McCain’s Ohio Victory Team. As CEO and board member of Chiquita Brands International, he oversaw the companies payment of $100,000s to the Columbia terror group AUC that is blamed for many of the country’s worst civilian massacres. After being indicted by the Justice Department, Chiquita admitted to illegally funding the terror group and agreed to pay a $25 million fine.

Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

saying mccain’s association with keating 5 was not “germane” isn’t saving the attack, it’s taking it off the table. he’s putting it back on the table because he’s trying to divert attention from associations that are ongoing on his behalf. “look at him, don’t look at me.”

Posted by: zeke | October 6, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Lee
LETS HOPE LOTS!!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

obama has a vision of a future for our country that i can support.
Socialism?

Posted by: Fred | October 6, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Bob Allen — Allen was appointed co-chair of McCain’s Florida campaign. Allen was arrested for offering to pay for sex from an undercover police officer in a Florida rest area.

Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Andrew – You stopped when the fun started. What about Cindy’s adventure with pain pills? I work with addicts now – but I have not run into a single one who had some the complete lack of morality to steal from a volunteer clinic – and not spend a day in jail for it. Cindy seems to have had injury after injury in the campaign year, which might seem reasonable for an woman in her 80s – but not in her 50s. It is standard for addicts, particularly pill poppers to come up with injury after injury to justify prescriptions.
And then there’s the Palins. Let’s disregard the fact that Sarah is a Left Behind evangelical who is posing as an Episcopalian to get elected – while every evangelical knows the codes for end-of-days language. SHe is a stealt candidate – the woman thinks the war in Iraq is a task from God. If that’s not creepy enough, she was annointed by a witch-hunter and acted like she was taking communion. And if THAT”S not creepy enough, her husband belonged to a political party for over a decade which wanted to secede from thee United States. Obama served on a board in the 90s with somebody who was a socialist when Obama was 9 years old? Todd Palin committed treason and he is MARRIED to a woman running for VP with a man who has a 1:6 chance of making it through 4 years.

Posted by: mara | October 6, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

Fortunately, when the Keating Five was “news” some twenty years ago, most of the MSM were actually doing their jobs and reporting about it, so the American public knew what was going on.
Unfortunately, ever since Obama became the flavor of the month, the MSM has been hiding their collective heads in the sand and not doing their job, so there’s a lot of unpleasantness surrounding their golden boy still to be uncovered that should have been dug up months ago.

Posted by: Lee | October 6, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

Ralph Reed — Reed co-hosted an Atlanta fundraiser with McCain. Reed’s lobbying and PR companies received at least $4.2 million from convicted felon Jack Abramoff. Oddly, John McCain in his Senate investigation of the Abramoff scandal did not call Reed to testify, even though Reed was handling the Indian tribe lobbying McCain was investigating.

Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

Personally, I’m a whole lot more concerned about a Presidential candidate such as John McCain who was directly involved in one of the biggest financial scandals of the 20th century – “The Keating Five.” Along with four other U.S. senators, McCain was investigated for improper conduct and institutionalized bribery that fueled the Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early nineties. Significantly, the Senate Ethics Committee found in 1991 that McCain exercised “poor judgment” in this affair. Moreover, McCain sat on the board of the far-right U.S. Council for World Freedom – which has been condemned by the Anti-Defamation League as “a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-semites.”
I’m also very concerned about Palin’s unapologetic vocal support of the overtly anti-American secessionist group, the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP). As AIP founder Joe Vogler once said, “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.” He also is quoted on AIP’s website as saying, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” Dexter Clark, AIP Vice Chairman, even seemed to endorse armed rebellion against the U.S. government when he stated at the AIP convention in 2007, “The longer this situation continues, the harder it’s going to become for a peaceful solution.”
The ideology of AIP is clearly terrorist-prone, based on the doctrine of “insurrectionism –the belief that the Second Amendment grants individual citizens the right to confront their government with force of arms when they feel it has become ‘tyrannical’ (the same view which Timothy McVeigh used to justify his attack on the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City).”

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Todd and Sarah Palin — Husband of McCain’s running mate and repeatedly on the stage with him. Todd Palin was a registered member of the pro-successionist Alaska Independent Party, an anti-American group which advocated the succession of Alaska from the union. Sarah Palin repeatedly addressed the AIP’s convention, and has been reported to have been active in the party as well.

Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Is this sad?? your candidate hung out with more thugs than my candidate!!

Posted by: zeke | October 6, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

John McCain was criticized by the ethics committee for “poor judgement” and McCain himself called it the “worst mistake of my life”.
Old Keating Five McCain, getting free trips from one of the most corrupt financiers of our time. One of his best friends to boot.

Posted by: bubba | October 6, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

you all harp on mccains age. he’s had more time to run into unsavory characters. give obama time, he’s way ahead of mccain if you consider age.

Posted by: zeke | October 6, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Rezko & Ayers are old news from the primary.
-Ayers bombed when Obama was 8-years-old. And Obama has called what Ayers did despicable. There are a lot of respectable people in Chicago, Republican and Democrat, who associate with Ayers.
-And Rezko. Obama’s only boneheaded move was to buy a strip of land from him so he could put in a swing set for his daughters. At the time, Rezko was under investigation, not a convicted felon.
On the other hand, a lot of people don’t know about Keating 5 which is completely relevant to the current bailout.

Posted by: cincyr | October 6, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

And it doesn’t even end there! There seems to be no end of great information. Troopergate is stalled again – but gee, if there is no evidence and no wrongdoing, why in the world would the McCain campaign want to send hundreds of lawyers to Alaska to hold it up? WHat are they hiding? They already told us that the”last straw” was when Moneghan lobbyied for special prosecution teams for sexua assaults – in a state that has, by far, the highest per capita rape rate in the nation (2.5 times higher than average). This is the “last straw?” This is what we’ll get with a woman in office? Bill Clinton was loathesome, but this is ridiculous. Keep bringing it on, Charlie – your candidates are floatin gin so much sewage that I don’t think 30 days is enough to cover it all.

Posted by: mara | October 6, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

McCain has become the masthead for the sinking ship that is the NeoCon Republican Party.
It’s a top heavy vessel that is fatally listing on the nausea-producing waves of empty rhetoric and fear-mongering, and utterly devoid of any moral, ethical or intellectual heft to keep it upright!
ABANDON SHIP! The rats are scurrying in Michigan and now Florida.
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK!!!

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 6, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

This past year, Gov. Palin sent an official videotaped message to the AIP’s annual convention, in which she endorsed their “party’s vision” and referred to AIP as “inspiring.” Palin doesn’t simply have associations with AIP; she blatantly supports the party. Her husband Todd was even a member for years, from 1995 to 2002.
So, the latest attempts at negative fear mongering by the McCain/Palin campaign are completely irrelevant to Obama’s candidacy. Unlike McCain’s involvement with the Keating Five and Palin’s gushing support of the terror-prone AIP, Obama’s “relationship” with Ayers was very minimal and inconsequential.
Hopefully, such neo-McCarthy tactics will not succeed, especially if the American public understands that this is simply another example of desperate tactics from the far right. It’s definitely time to return to the issues that truly matter to average Americans.

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

well as far as i can tell their were no know terrorists involved and mccain was cleared. end of story. sorry, good try. the only people this will connect with are his supporters. as the article states mccains involvement was deemed to be not improper, nor attended with gross negligence.
now can you please ask obama to release his college transcripts, and his list of foreign country campaign donations. and to come clean on his relationship with ayers.

Posted by: octoberlight | October 6, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

Palin is just a saleswoman, a very very good saleswoman. But when you’ve left the store having bought the goods. Think about it, would you want that person to be the president of the USA. There is little substance required to be a good salesman-saleswoman just a slick tongue.
Insist on the substance before you buy.

Posted by: Allen | October 6, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

If you want to read something truely unAmerican – go look at the Alaskan Independence website. It suggests, among other things, that Alaska keep Alaskan oil to Alaska. Which is really strange, since Sarah Palin’s entire platform seems tied to providing energy to the lower 48. I guess when she cheers “drill baby drill” (which she says she hears across the country – it must be a sound only Sarah can hear), she isn’t talking about the US.

Posted by: mara | October 6, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Hostile Knowledge
Obama’s grandma is not being kept in isolation. She can’t travel due to health reasons. And with all these nasty attacks, I wouldn’t want to be talking to the media if I were her. She has a right to enjoy her golden years.

Posted by: cincyr | October 6, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

response to andrew; 34 states historically have entertained articles of secession. secession is at the very core of the american experience, it is as american as apple pie.

Posted by: octoberlight | October 6, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

But in the case of Todd Palin and even Sarah, there are direct long standing ties to a terror-prone anti-American group, the Alaskan Independence Party. Of course, McCain was a “member” of the Keating Five – which certainly contributed to the panic – even terror – that millions of Americans experienced during the Savings and Loan Crisis.

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

Republican speaking:
This is bad. We’re losing Colorado, Ohio, Virginia, Florida and Minnesota. McCain is going to need a miracle to pull this out.
Sadly, a miracle he is unable to achieve.
John Sydney, you’ve thrown your last hail mary buddy!
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK!

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 6, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

P U M A has a question for Obamabots
Obamabots do you know that many Hillary Supporters have lied to the pollsters and said we were going to vote Obama. We are not. You know that October surprise…well lets just say that Obama is getting lots of them.
What’s the Plan B, Obamabots? Certainly it’s not that old worn out ”Roe v. Wade” card that gets waved every election season and still stands after 5 Republican presidents and conservative SCOTUS’ later. Wait a minute, is it just me or did I just hear a big collective “uhhhh” sound?
Whether the Obamabots has a “Plan B” or not, the 2008 DNC is no longer the party that protects women’s rights, but oppresses them. 2008 DNC is no longer the party that upholds voter rights, but supresses them. 2008 DNC is no longer the party that ensures Democracy, but manipulates it to their candidate choice’s advantage. So what difference is there between the 2008 DNC and the 2008 Republican party? One mascot is a donkey and the other an elephant? One likes blue, the other red? Oh I got one! The Republicans actually nominated a candidate who won the majority of votes within their party and the VP candidate, a woman, is embraced by her party with loving arms and that party is fighting back against the hateful sexist onslaught which pervasively fuels the Obama campaign.”

Posted by: Democrats No More | October 6, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

John “Keating 5″ McCain. McCain called it the “greatest mistake of my life” and who can argue? Corruption must be rooted out.

Posted by: ed | October 6, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

No surprise. Obama run negative from day one, his problem is Obama hasn’t got that much to work with. McCain on the other hand….
What does it say about the Obama-campaign that their only weakness is their candidate!

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | October 6, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

No surprise. Obama run negative from day one, his problem is Obama hasn’t got that much to work with. McCain on the other hand….
What does it say about the Obama-campaign that their only weakness is their candidate!

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | October 6, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

>>>cincyr | Oct 6, 2008 1:12:00 AM<<<
"But, as we've seen in this election, when you write the rules, you know how to bypass them."
_________
Still another reason why an empty suit and and skinny resume have become so powerful for Obama. The rules are rewritten even as he speaks!
Children are taught to sing to him… just like in the olden days of the 1930s… for a different sweet talker, in Germany.
Late term partial-birth abortions are favored by him…. and whatever living being survives the expulsion from his mother's womb… is left unceremoniously to die in a trash tray with no succor….
In this terrible economic climate, money comes and money goes…. from whence it comes no one always knows…. but where it goes is always just for show… even thought people are starving and losing their homes and unable to pay their hospital bills…..
None of the enormous funds received by Obama are donated to food pantries or day care centers……. not that that would be required.
MCCAIN AND PALIN
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY

Posted by: CANDOR | October 6, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Alaska Independence Party is going to be next… these Republicans have got it coming. Wink.

Posted by: doug | October 6, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Are you cynics down to your last ouiji board prayers with ONE LAST GASP?
Hee Hee……..How pathetic you must feel to see your John Wayne aka Great White Hope reduced to Barney Fife by a strategic and tactical genious in B Rock.
POTUS OBAMA – Cynic Smasher

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 6, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Democrats No More
Did you know that PUMA membership has declined so low that no one takes you seriously anymore…
Do you also know that PUMA was only serched for on the internet 120 times durring the whole month of sept!
Obama will be POTUS!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

Cynics,
B Rock has proved you to be a farce for a year and a half. Over this time, you’ve huffed and puffed and blowed nothing down. You’ve predicted what Obama wouldn’t do and were wrong. AGAIN
That “blackened” crow marinated with Rev Wright sauce and Father Pfleiger vegees is quite tasty, huh?
Grey Poupon?
POTUS OBAMA – A Cynic’s worst nightmare

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 6, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

Instead of explosive devices injuring and killing 100,000 depositors Charles Keatings’ actions pillaged depositors savings through the Savings & Loan he fraudulently ran.
Charles Keating is The Poster Child of FINANCIAL TERRORISM as lawmakers were influenced to deregulate the financial industry!

Posted by: Arizona Biltmore | October 6, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

Sarah Palin said “Our opponent though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”
John McCain in 1981 was palling around with extreme racists and anti-Semites according to the ADL, US Council for World Freedom – an ultra right wing group
Also Sarah Palin’s husband Todd was a member member of the secessionist Alaska Independence Party. Alaska for Alaskins
Country first? or Sarah and John

Posted by: joe from ne-philly | October 6, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

‘Obama’s grandma is not being kept in isolation. ‘
_______________
Is this Obama’s “typical white grandma”,
the one he threw under the bus,…. or his “typical black grandma”?

Posted by: CANDOR | October 6, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

All Obama supporters knew that John McCain was getting desperate, and was about to throw the kitchen sink at Obama, which his campaign has thrown. Unfortunately for McCain, Obama’s camp has an even bigger kitchen sink to throw back – Keating, Libby, Quinn, Rev. Hagee, Todd Palin’s past membership to the Alaskan Independence Party, etc. John McCain’s camp has opened up Pandora’s Box, and will now get a taste of his own dirty politics medicine! Bad move, McCain, very bad move!

Posted by: John | October 6, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am

Democrats No More
watch the electoral map…
It gets more BLUE by the day……
P U M A will fade into the ‘forgotten fringe’ of American politics…
get used to it……

Posted by: touche | October 6, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

Oh…..Obama is this a smear or are you trying to get people to not see the real YOU! You are not the man for the US of America and those who vote for you will soon know this! Poor folks, don’t know truth! You make America feel doomed! This is what is on television now and you are all jacked up and trying to get McCain on The keating thing………..big fat deal……atleast he aint got all the corruption in his life as you do! It’s all documented and this is your last lifeline…….haha……go for it!
I pray to God….(the only God) that you never become our president!

Posted by: Jack | October 6, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

Saturday, Sarah Palin made the loaded and blatantly false accusation that Barack Obama pals around with terrorists. She continued to throw our the false accusation again Sunday even though AP has done a thorough investigation and determined that there is no evidence that Obama and Ayers were close when Obama worked as a community activists. He has also consistently denounced Ayers radical views and actions. While the Keating Five accusations are old they are clearly true, accurate and relevant to the current need for appropriate regulation of financial institutions.

Posted by: Dave | October 6, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am

SOME AMERICANS CAN’T SEE TRUTH!
THEY WANT A TERRORIST FRIENDLY GUY RUNNING OUR COUNTRY!
A GUY, NOT A MAN
OBAMA IS TROUBLE FOR AMERICA!
YOU VOTE OBAMA YOU DESERVE ALL THE DAMNED PUNCHES YOU GET!
BEWARE…..DON’T BE SHOCKED!
IT’S NOT ABOUT THE PARTY FOLKS, IT’S ABOUT FREEDOM, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE!
OBAMA IS NOT FOR FREEDOM, HE IS FOR CONTROL OF THE PEOPLE!

Posted by: Sandy | October 6, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

McCain was not “exonerated”…. He was reprimanded for “poor judgment.” Now, he claims that he has sound judgment?
This is the same man that was, just a few weeks ago, calling for more DEREGULATION — the underlying problem of the S&L meltdown. Does that sound like someone who learned anything from his mistakes?
And why is McCain still running with lobbyists? (Hundreds work for him, and even RUN his campaign.) Didn’t cozying up to special interests get him in trouble with the Keating scandal? Does that sound like someone who learned anything from his mistakes?

Posted by: TruthSeekr | October 6, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

Obama did a land deal with rezko while he was under federal investigation for influence peddling and then Obama lied about what he knew to the american people.
Obama praised wright even after Wright said our chickens came home to roost on 9/11.

Posted by: Jeff | October 6, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

And John (1:59 AM), we can add McCain’s rich, convicted criminal father-in-law to the list.
Obama at least *tried* to run an ethical, positive campaign, even calling off the dogs regarding Palin’s family troubles. But if McCain is going to go into the gutter, it looks like Obama is going to match blow by blow.

Posted by: Pacific moderate | October 6, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am

why do GOP supporters use all CAPS these days…..at whom and why are they screaming….must be the polls?

Posted by: ringer | October 6, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

and bring on the Ayers attack – coz Keating 5 that’s a real scandal….if Palin/McCain want to cast tenuous aspersions, Obama/Biden, can talk all week about a real and relevant scandal where Mr McCain had to admit his involvement – its no match – looks a yet another tactical error and “own goal” by Palin/McCain

Posted by: ringer | October 6, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

That’s old story and was part of the specials on Fox and CNN. McCain was exonerated and he partake in getting Keaton put in jail. 3 other democrats got in trouble though. The case with Ayers is more recent (1994 to 1998). So, Obama is tied with this domestic terrorist who should’ve been in prison for life. The case with Rezco is very recent, like within 2 years. Acorn is very recent, too.

Posted by: yodaxl7 | October 6, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

“Back in May, Obama said the scandal was still fair game. “I was just asked previously about a whole host of issues and associations that are a lot more flimsy than John McCain’s relationship to Keating Five,” Obama told reporters. “What I said, I can’t quarrel with the American people wanting to know more about that and me having to answer questions about it.” The Nation
So he didn’t say ‘germane.’ Using Sarah Palin’s dictionary?

Posted by: kravitz | October 6, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am

Update. Obama has told us about his involvement with William Ayers and Tony Rezko. Can John McCain hear?
McCain’s fear of Keating Five is going to leave a major headache today.
WaPo has the divorce of John and Carol McCain.
WaPo has Phil Gramm’s relationship to the financial meltdown.
HuffPo has David Ifshin, John McCain’s 1960′s radical, the guy whose voice taunted John McCain as a prisoner of war over Radio Hanoi. They became friends because the found common ground. Oddly enough. Ifshin was also an owner of The New Republic, and is part of the reason McCain enjoyed such wonderful media connections until today.

Posted by: kravitz | October 6, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am

McCain was instrumental in brining the HAMAS into POWER by facilitating an election in West Bank…while Obama opposed it. It’t undiputed fact…no fiction whatsoever. All credible newspaper/media attest this.
McCAIN = TRUE REPRESENTITIVE OF HAMES in the US SENATE

Posted by: jenny | October 6, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

.”What McCain didn’t mention is that he has his own Bill Ayers — in the form of G. Gordon Liddy. Now a conservative radio talk-show host, Liddy spent more than 4 years in prison for his role in the 1972 Watergate burglary. That was just one element of what Liddy did, and proposed to do, in a secret White House effort to subvert the Constitution. Far from repudiating him, McCain has embraced him.
How close are McCain and Liddy? At least as close as Obama and Ayers appear to be. In 1998, Liddy’s home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator’s campaigns — including $1,000 this year.

Posted by: james | October 6, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

DLM
Theres video of Sarah Palin and Todd Palin at the Alsakan Independence Party
Along with video of head of the party confirming the membership of Sarah.
Stay tuned to your TV its coming! Its on the web already!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

McCain/Palin:
COUNTRY (Israel) FIRST…not USA

Posted by: moeen | October 6, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

response to Chad and barry didn’t have the good judgement to say no larry i don’t want to go for a ride in the limo and he didn’t have the good judgement to not use cocaine and smoke pot. and by the way how come obama has not released his college transcripts? the mystery man has allot of secrets.

Posted by: jupiter | October 6, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

The founder of the Alaska Independence Party — a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years — once professed his “hatred for the American government” and cursed the American flag as a “damn flag.”
The AIP founder, Joe Vogler, made the comments in 1991, in an interview that’s now housed at the Oral History Program in the Rasmuson Library at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks.
“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government,” Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.
“And I won’t be buried under their damn flag,” Vogler continued in the interview, which also touched on his disappointment with the American judicial system. “I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”
At another point, Volger advocated renouncing allegiance to the United States. In the course of denouncing Federal regulation over land, he said:
“And then you get mad. And you say, the hell with them. And you renounce allegiance, and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life to Alaska.”
You can listen to audio of the relevant section of the Volger interview here. Bill Schneider, curator of oral history at the library, verified the authenticity of the interview and the quote to me a few moments ago.
Palin has courted the group over the years.
Three years after the controversial interview, in 1994, Palin attended the group’s annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News’ Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign is disputing her presence there, but Tapper found two people to attest to it.
The McCain campaign today produced Palin’s voting registration records, and said they proved she was never a member of the party.
But she has repeatedly reached out to the group. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group’s 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.
Palin’s husband, Todd Palin, was a member of the party from 1995-2002 with a brief exception in 2000.
It’s worth noting that Vogler isn’t just some figure from ancient history. He is still being hailed on AIP’s site this year, the same year Palin addressed the group’s convention.
It’s worth pondering how big a deal it would be if Obama had ever courted the support of a group whose head had said this kind of thing about America and her flag. Oh, wait…

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Whatever Maccain is doing, too late to change the current of the race.
maybe 1 percent of people will be swayed by this kind of negative attacks.
But now american people are so immune to Maccain’s negative attacks on Obama,
it is not so effective anymore.
Maccain, you used this one too much, no effect…. sorry.
Only maccain leaning voters will be swayed and still obama will be ahead by 5 percent….
And we have more enthusiasitic supporters, turnout will make again difference from the polls.

Posted by: zen | October 6, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am

DLM
The rest of America will laugh there butts off when they hear Palins words today and then her addressing AIP and the words that they have spoke!
Palin also said in the Fox News interview she relies on Todds advise to make her judgements!
LOL

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

Associations? Let’s talk about McCain’s friendship with and attendance at Joe ‘Bananas’ Bonano’s birthday party if you want to talk about questionable associates. Who is ‘Bananas’? The late head of the Cosa Nostra (Mafia).
Let’s talk about McCain’s gambling and representation of the gambling industries (riddled with Mafia).
Let’s not forget Cindy Hemsley McCain who is the daughter of a twice-convicted felon and rich because of his working for Kemper Marley (murdered) who in turn worked for Meyer Lansky (Mafia financial boss).
Is a wife a close enough associate especially if you live off her?
Then there are the Palins. Todd works for British Petroleum (that she is regulating) and he belongs to the Alaska Indepence Party which she has attended. They want to secede from the Union so they can split the oil wealth among the 600,000 Alaskans with the line share going to Governor Putin.
These are just a bunch of crooked would-be oligarchs.

Posted by: susan | October 6, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

Rezko was under federal investigation by patrick fitzgerald’s office for influence peddling at the time Obama had Rezko build a fence and sell him part of the lot.
Obama at first lied to the washington post about what he knew.
Then on January 21 and January 23 Obama told CBS early show and Good Morning America there was no way anyone could have had any inkling Rezko was in trouble.
When in fact Obama did know about the federal investigation and knew about how he used his company as a minority front.
The coverup should be the difference.

Posted by: Jeff | October 6, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am

An angle that will probably be in Obama’s documentary…how Keating destroyed the savings of senior citizens. And McCain, the POW, allowed it to happen.
This fact will poke through any issues of how old the story is.
It fascinates me at the moment. Still not asleep yet. (east coaster)
“It was a Faustian bargain. It was also a bad joke on the rest of us and a disaster for many old people who lost their life’s savings to Keating. The money was never really Keating’s to give. But he never would have got his hands on it if you and the rest of the Keating Five didn’t halt the government takeover for two long years while Keating’s people continued their looting. And now, the tab for the Savings and Loan heist must be paid from taxpayer pockets…Perhaps you might silence your own conscience about all this someday.
Just keep telling everyone that it was your wife’s money invested in that shopping center with Keating and that you knew nothing about it…You are determined to bluff your way.
You will stick to your story that you were acting to help a constituent and intended to do nothing improper. ”
What’s $112,000 adjusted for inflation anyway.

Posted by: kravitz | October 6, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

When the savings and loan industry collapsed, Keating’s failed company put taxpayers on the hook for $3.4 billion and more than 20,000 Americans lost their savings. John McCain was reprimanded by the bipartisan Senate Ethics Committee, but the ultimate cost of the crisis to American taxpayers reached more than $120 billion.

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am

CHYRON: “John McCain… readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama’s character.” [Washington Post, 10/04/08]
VIDEO: Montage of McCain attack ads
CHYRON: John McCain is “looking forward to turning a page on this financial crisis.” [Washington Post, 10/04/08]
VIDEO: Montage of McCain attack ads
CHYRON: McCain Campaign’s Ad Spending Now Nearly 100 Percent Devoted to Attack Ads [Talking Points Memo, 10/3/08]
MCAIN: “I’m John McCain and I approved this message.”
MCCAIN: “Uh, I, I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.” [The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000]
CHYRON: John McCain: We Can’t Afford More of the Same

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am

John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”
Now, that’s not John McCain, right? LOL? I don’t think he is that. But you know, the problem is that a lot of people know John McCain’s record better than Governor Palin. And he does not want to play guilt by association or this thing could blow up in his face. Ha…Ha…

Posted by: JohnnnyPatrick | October 6, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am

Things must be going swimmingly for the Republicans. Their star Sarah Palin was in Nebraska (5 electoral votes) a state that has been solidly Republican since 1964. Put on the life vests. The McCain ship is floundering.

Posted by: doug | October 6, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am

MUD IS BEING FLUNG THIS MORNIN’ DAHLIN!!!
“The sum of the secrets McCain has sought to hide is not small. There exists a telling mass of official documents, radio intercepts, witness depositions, satellite photos of rescue symbols that pilots were trained to use, electronic messages from the ground containing the individual code numbers given to airmen, a rescue mission by a special forces unit that was aborted twice by Washington—and even sworn testimony by two Defense secretaries that “men were left behind.” This imposing body of evidence suggests that a large number—the documents indicate probably hundreds—of the US prisoners held by Vietnam were not returned when the peace treaty was signed in January 1973 and Hanoi released 591 men, among them Navy combat pilot John S. McCain.
The Pentagon had been withholding significant information from POW families for years. What’s more, the Pentagon’s POW/MIA operation had been publicly shamed by internal whistleblowers and POW families for holding back documents as part of a policy of “debunking” POW intelligence even when the information was obviously credible.”
And elsewhere today?
“Yes, they went there: the LA Times is featuring on its homepage a major story examining a portion of John McCain’s military record” Mishaps mark John McCain’s career as Naval Aviator!!
So much for that maverick.

Posted by: kravitz | October 6, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

it’s funny… the William Ayers story. i wonder, why? why is it that him being connected to Mr. Obama upsets some of us so much? I’m not sure when the bombings by Mr. Ayers occured but i’ve heard it was in the sixties. Now i don’t mean to imply that it’s water under the bridge but that was 30-50 years ago. Mr. Ayers now resides in a “respectable” neighborhood in Chicago. i say this because he obviously has neighbors that you are not implicating by association. He is a professor at a university yet i hear/see not one yelling for the withdrawal of funds by the parents of those children enrolled under his tutorage. Playing with semantics one could infer that Mr. Obama was “brought out” by Mr. Ayers. i guess it’s all in how u look at it. i don’t think he was. Mr. Ayers threw a party for another politician who used the event to name her sucsessor. Did Mr. obama know Mr. Ayers past? i’m sure..but..if i was in a room getting a promotion and the guy that was hosting my boss’s party did some serious sh..stuff back in the day but was obviously accepted back into society to the degree that he’s allowed to professorship, no way in he..ck am i walking away from my promotion. WHAT does his crap have to do with me? what about the rest of the people in this room? or the school? or the state of illinois or the U.S. government? hey THEY(and by THEY i mean WE) let him stay. So really what’s with this “Ayers knew Obama too” strategy/tactic(tee-hee)? it’s funny….but i don’t get it.

Posted by: oasis | October 6, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am

McCain, hotdoggin and showing off, even crashed a plane into the carrier Intrepid…recently refurbished and back in Madhattan!!! Holy Mooseburgers!!!

Posted by: kravitz | October 6, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am

A money sentence!
“As a presidential candidate, McCain has cited his military service — particularly his 5 1/2 years as a POW. But he has been less forthcoming about his mistakes in the cockpit.”
Seems he’s annoyed someone today!

Posted by: kravitz | October 6, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am

At least McCann is not a communist like Obama……goggle Frank Marshall Davis who was Obama’s mentor and was a member of the communist party and who Obama in his book speaks of, saying he spent time with him in Hawaii, reading poetry and discussing policies and Frank was full of hard earned knowledge and advise. Obama also admitted attending socialist conferences, and Davis and he has a very close relationship “like father and son”. Obama will destroy this nation if elected. Are the American people stupid enough or just naive as the people in German were about Hitler????

Posted by: Mad as hell with liberal media not doing their job | October 6, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am

I am fed-up with people on this board on the right throwing around the word “socialists” and “communists” to describe independents and democrats – and tired of those of you leaving messages for me calling me a “commie”….you people dont even know what a socialist is these days…and probably dont even have a passport
I am an independent and Obama supporter and also an economist who has for 2 decades advised governments and businesses in Czechosolovakia, Poland, China, Russia….I have seen communism up close and have done my part to further the idea of capitalism around the world in real a tangible way….what exactly have YOU done…? except go to the mall as your contribution….nice.
And let me give the narrow-mined right wing folks who throw around these words so casually, a free economics lesson…the GOP/Bush economics trickle down policies have been such a disaster, that so called “communist China” is now rapidly approaching a better functioning capitalist country than we are….they do not run deficits, they invest in infratstruture, and they buy American debt….your beloved George Bush has sold you out….and the Chinese are laughing at you…trust me…I hear it from them constantly, and they think we are amazingly stupid, to go along with the disproven” trickle down” economics that has lead us to brink of bankruptcy.
Trust me my GOP friends, they are going to capitalize on this and eat our lunch……so you all need to get educated before you throw around words you do not understand….and vote Obama/Biden so we can get the Clinton economic team back in place and reduce our deficits, invest in our country and get back on track….before it is too late…..

Posted by: ringer | October 6, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am

Sean Hanity needs to be jailed!
He is a threat to democracy.
His lies and chilish and yet by some believed!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

With a “Wink” and a Nod they were gone. Palin will learn some families do have moral and character values and will protect them from all liars, cheaters and thieves.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08′ ALL THE WAY!

Posted by: Sue | October 6, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am

Obama is leading in almost every battleground poll. He will likely be the next President.
VOTE NO on proposition 8 in California. Rights should not be taken away. VOTE NO.

Posted by: NextPrez | October 6, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am

VOTE NO on proposition 8 in California
ALL PEOPLE ARE CREATED EQUAL!
EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO LOVE AND BE LOVED!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

Mad as hell
ITS FROM A STORY IN TODAYS LA TIMES

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am

The sad thing is I want to like Obama, I want to support him – but I keep seeing hypocritical actions and a man who doesn’t live up to promised principles. The only arena where he has a history of giving it all is his quest to be president. (The Harvard grad who couldn’t get a high-paying job, the Law Review editor who never published, the adjunct profession who never got a professor job, the state senator who voted present, the Senator who’s spent more time campaigning than in Congress).
Remember when he successfully maligned HRC for “doing anything to win”? Guess it’s not such a bad thing anymore.
Lie, spin, duck -
Obama’s falling from the high road again
(was he ever on it?)

Posted by: Que | October 6, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am

uhhh, mad as hell, as you may not know, Czech Republic is a democracy and well functioning capitalist society – since 1992 – when i went over to help them set up their first private bank…how may “commies” do that eh? – you are a ….nevermind, waste of time. you made my point for me…

Posted by: ringer | October 6, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am

After reading all the comments on all the major newspapers in America, I have come to the conclusion that America is lost. The Obamaians are nuts; Obama is going to destroy democracy in this country and the Obamaians have no clue. They have been brainwashed. Say goodbye to democracy and hello to socialism and maybe total communist government.

Posted by: ?????? | October 6, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am

Hello Stupid Republicans,
I don’t believe Republicans are stupid, but it’s clear several of you are really damaging the party’s reputation!
You fools throw around words like “communist” and “socialist” in attempts to assassinate Democrats, yet your writings clearly demonstrate you do not understand what these words mean
John McCain — a man who runs a reprehensible campaign and who continually surprises us — what’s going to come out of the closet next? This cozy relationship he had with Keating is very disheartening especially considering the current economic crisis — John McCain cannot be trusted!

Posted by: Nate | October 6, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am

RINGER, I was in the Czech Republic two years ago, both sides of my grandparents came from there. I know that they are not under the communist NOW but from the end of WW2 until communist fell a few years ago, The Czech Republic was under Russian rule. I stayed in a hotel built by the Russians and visited the town Hitler destroyed which is ten miles from Prague; my distant relatives were killed by Hitler’s forces in that town. The town now has a hugh rose garden dedicated to the people who were killed and a woman spent her life making life sized statues of the 83 children killed by the Nazis in that town. She finished them but her husband and a friend had them bronzed and they now stand between the roses. So you don’t know a damn thing about that country. The Czech Republic is now doing wonderfully, people are working, the buildings are clean as are the roadsides, autos are everywhere and they are pro-America. Go there sometimes and learn something.

Posted by: ?????? | October 6, 2008, 4:19 am 4:19 am

ringer ; )

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 4:21 am 4:21 am

McCain camp is desperate! They are really running out of money, nobody wants to give to them because they know he’s going to lose and it will be a wasted investment!
pulling out of Michigan, and now campaigning in Nevada — that’s pathetic

Posted by: Sarah | October 6, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am

I go there twice a year….I learned to speak Czech, (dobry den?) met my wife there…it is a lovely place … that is why I went to help set up their first bank, in 1992…
RINGER, I was in the Czech Republic two years ago, both sides of my grandparents came from there. I know that they are not under the communist NOW but from the end of WW2 until communist fell a few years ago, The Czech Republic was under Russian rule. I stayed in a hotel built by the Russians and visited the town Hitler destroyed which is ten miles from Prague; my distant relatives were killed by Hitler’s forces in that town. The town now has a hugh rose garden dedicated to the people who were killed and a woman spent her life making life sized statues of the 83 children killed by the Nazis in that town. She finished them but her husband and a friend had them bronzed and they now stand between the roses. So you don’t know a damn thing about that country. The Czech Republic is now doing wonderfully, people are working, the buildings are clean as are the roadsides, autos are everywhere and they are pro-America. Go there sometimes and learn something.

Posted by: ringer | October 6, 2008, 4:25 am 4:25 am

Ten Questions McCain Refuses to Answer:
1. Why does he continue to accept full disability government checks?
2. Why did he he give the Soviets military information when he was a POW?
3. Since he didn’t do any of the deeds cited in his Silver Star narrative, why did he accept the Silver Star?
4. His wife was a junkie for four years. How is it he was unaware of this?
5. Why did he make 32 anti-American broadcasts as a POW?
6. Why did he drop out of the Navy War College?
7. Why did Col. Ted Guy — his Senior Ranking Officer as a POW — call him “a total liar”?
8. While being interviewed by French television host Francois Chalais when a POW, why did McCain tell him he was IMMEDIATELY brought to the hospital after he was captured, while in his book he states he was brought to the hospital “3 or 4 days later”?
9. Why won’t he make his POW debriefing file available to the media?
10. Why do his two Senior Ranking Officers at his POW prison camp say he was never tortured?

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 4:29 am 4:29 am

“hero”
OBAMA HAS ALWAYS MADE IT CLEAR HE WORKED FOR THE Chicago Annenberg Challenge that gave $50 million to prompt school reform effors throughout the city.
sO YOUR POST AND THE BLOG IS STUPID!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am

Frank Rich: “McCain Continues To Fade Into Incoherence And Irrelevance”

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am

It was in Chicago that Obama became a “community organizer” and came into contact with more far-left political forces, including the Democratic Socialists of America, which maintains close ties to European socialist groups and parties through the Socialist International (SI), and two former members of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), William Ayers and Carl Davidson.
Is this the guy you want in the oval office?

Posted by: Josef S | October 6, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am

Josef S
YES i AM VOTING FOR OBAMA I WANT HIM IN THE OVAL OFFICE!
IM VOTING ON THE ISSUES NOT THE SMEERS AND ON THEM OBAMA STANDS HIGH OVER MCCAIN!
MCCAIN HAS A SHADY PAST AND SO DOES SARAH PALIN!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am

It is germane for Obama to discuss this because Palin viciously slandered his character! Why should Obama not practice self-defense? And WHY do you not not practice equal treatment and ask about her close ties to witch-hunter pastor, her use of anti-Semitic sources for quotes she uses, her husband’s and her ties to secessionist party that printed its hatred of US gov’t, her abuse of power and funds in AK? She has no knowledge of history of USA or its foreign policy, US Constitution or Supreme Court, economics, yet she is treated as a credible voice just because she sounds “ordinary” (as though we need someone ordinary to lead this complex nation!) and folksy and winks at people? She is patronizing and would be better served on a reality show! Her ambition is for herself, not our country. I am sick of the hyper-partisan hatred and ignorance she spews. Her messages are disreputable, they do not serve our country well, nor does the MSM that gives them credibility.

Posted by: Maryanne | October 6, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am

Maryanne
RIGHT ON !
STAND UP AMERICA !!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am

Memo to McCain from Obama:
I am not John Kerry;Are you sure you want to go there?

Posted by: jim | October 6, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am

AP: Palin’s Attack On Obama “Unsubstantiated,” “Racially Tinged,” “Attempt To Smear”

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am

(CNN) — Barack Obama’s campaign has quickly rejected Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s claim that he associated “with terrorists who targeted our own country.”
Palin attacked Sen. Obama on Saturday for his brief political relationship with Bill Ayers, a founding member of the radical Weather Underground, which was involved in several bombings in the early 1970s, including attacks on the Pentagon and the Capitol. Obama was a child at the time of the bombings.
Obama and Ayers, now a university professor, have met several times since 1995, when both orked with a non-profit group trying to raise funds for a school improvement project and a haritable foundation. CNN’s review of project records found nothing to suggest anything unappropriate in the volunteer projects in which the two men were involved.
A CNN Fact Check found Palin’s charge to be false.

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 5:55 am 5:55 am

It is September 11 and the President of the United States is flying above the country unable to land because we do not know who, or how, our country is being attacked. The Vice President is on the ground attempting to lead the country through the most horrific attack on our soil by terrorist. Who do you want on the ground handling the fate of Americans? Now Dog Gone It…think about that for a minute…….

Posted by: Chad | October 6, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) — A Democratic state representative in Alaska asked state troopers Wednesday to investigate possible witness tampering in a legislative investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin’s decision to fire the state’s public safety commissioner.
Gara told CNN on Wednesday that he would like state troopers to determine whether anyone violated Alaska law by discouraging someone from cooperating with the legislative investigation.
“Until Gov. Palin was appointed to the McCain ticket, everybody was fine with proceeding with the investigation,” he said. “Then, the McCain campaign sent up 30 people to the state and, all of a sudden, people are not participating in the investigation.”
In his letter, Gara asked troopers to investigate possible “criminal witness tampering,” saying that it’s possible that “certain persons” induced witnesses not to cooperate with the legislative investigation, which was authorized by a bipartisan vote before Palin joined McCain’s ticket.
Gara “is not alleging that a particular person has engaged in witness tampering” but noted that “certain staff for the McCain campaign came to Alaska in an effort to block” the legislative investigation. He noted that two McCain staffers “have held multiple press conferences in Anchorage to block the investigation.”

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am

Obama would never have brought this up if McCain hadn’t taken this low road. The Repubs and some members of the media seemed surprised that Obama isn’t going to take these assaults lying down.
He’s not as genteel as they would like to think he is. He only attacks when provoked and this skill will make him a very clever and strategic Commander-in-Chief.

Posted by: Eve | October 6, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am

Which candidate is CURRENTLY under investigation for abuse of power?
Which candidate is CURRENTLY ducking subpoenas? (It’s just the law right?)
Which candidate has demanded that the findings of the BI-LATERAL investigation be kept from the public?
Which candidate has used executice power to settle personal vendettas and agenedas?
Which candidate is currently HAMPERING an investigation?
Gosh darn it, I wonder who that could be. Is she guilty? You betcha!
INNOCENT PEOPLE DON’T NEED TO HIDE

Posted by: Some should worry about their own problems | October 6, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

It’s obvious the McCain campaign is grasping at straws. They need anything they can get their slimy little hands on and will use it. That’s called desperation. They’re losing and are going to drag this country down into their muck in order to win in November. The fact remains that no matter what they dredge up, it’s not going to put food on my table, pay doctors’ bills, put gas in my car (assuming my car is still in running condition) so I can get to my job (assuming I still have a job). The republicans are well known for “distractions” to turn people away from the issues the republicans have either bungled or have no solutions for. That’s what’s happening and it won’t work for this voter.
Obama/Biden 2008

Posted by: distractions | October 6, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

McCain: Out of touch, out of ideas, and running out of time!
Palin: Never been in touch, never had an idea, and never has time to research truth.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | October 6, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am

TWO candidates have used their political positions and BROKE THE LAW at the expense of the public.
One admitted it, and one is currently being investigated.
Guess that what s”maverick” do.

Posted by: Above the Law | October 6, 2008, 6:54 am 6:54 am

Dirty politics, no?
If this were such an issue, they could have brought it up earlier, I believe.
The McCain campaign is shameless-they themselves admitted they were trying to detract attention from the ailing economy- and the fact that they don’t know how to fix it, which is why their polls are plunging. Now they want to try to distract attention, but they do not even TELL US HOW they are going to FIX the economy or more about their policies.
They spend more time trying to tear down their opponent.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am

Is this Obama bringing a butter knife to a gun fight?
Sounds like Sarah hit the bullseye.

Posted by: Captain America | October 6, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am

Bullseye?
Unless you mean she shot herself. Sarah Palin has given speeches for the Alaskan in Independence Party. It’s documented on You tube.
Obama has never supported Ayers’ radical views, all though he had worked with him, they were hardly close.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Nope, Captain America. Sounds like the McCain campaign went where it shouldn’t have and tried to make much more of the Obama/Ayers association than was there. They’re going to regret it. And for these claims to come out of the mouth of Sarah Palin, whose husband belonged to the secessionist AIP, is even more despicable.

Posted by: Sharon | October 6, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Personally, I’m a whole lot more concerned about a Presidential candidate such as John McCain who was directly involved in one of the biggest financial scandals of the 20th century – “The Keating Five.” Along with four other U.S. senators, McCain was investigated for improper conduct and institutionalized bribery that fueled the Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early nineties. Significantly, the Senate Ethics Committee found in 1991 that McCain exercised “poor judgment” in this affair. Moreover, McCain sat on the board of the far-right U.S. Council for World Freedom – which has been condemned by the Anti-Defamation League as “a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-semites.”
I’m also very concerned about Palin’s unapologetic vocal support of the overtly anti-American secessionist group, the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP). As AIP founder Joe Vogler once said, “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.” He also is quoted on AIP’s website as saying, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” Dexter Clark, AIP Vice Chairman, even seemed to endorse armed rebellion against the U.S. government when he stated at the AIP convention in 2007, “The longer this situation continues, the harder it’s going to become for a peaceful solution.”
The ideology of AIP is clearly terrorist-prone, based on the doctrine of “insurrectionism –the belief that the Second Amendment grants individual citizens the right to confront their government with force of arms when they feel it has become ‘tyrannical’ (the same view which Timothy McVeigh used to justify his attack on the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City).”

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am

All this aside,
Really. People keep saying Obama is inexperienced, inexperienced, inexperienced.
Alright, Bush was more experienced, and look how he ran the country into the ground. I prefer to think of it this way:
Obama: Experience lightweight (not really, but in comparison with McCain), but an intellectual heavyweight.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am

ABC do not delete my blog
When the media does not want to talk about Obama , McCain & Sarah will talk about his friends
Ayers
Wright
Rezko
Farahkhan
Fldger

Posted by: adam | October 6, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

Ayers we have heard about him dont care.
Obama has condemed his actions that happened when Obama was 8 years old!
Wright a church leader no worse than Palin and her witch doctor church end of the world cult or her new gay hating one!
Rezko Guy he brought land off to put a swing in his yard for his daughters…Who later got in trouble big deal!
Farahkhan Obama has no ties to him!
Fldger Chruch guy with a loud mouth no big deal!
Yawn!
None of these guys are calling for violence against America.
Unlike Palins groups!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am

Andrew
You can still lie about Obama was 8 when Ayers bombed.
Obama’s first political Campaign was launched in Ayers House. HIs fund raising was done in Ayers House.
Will you invite some unknown person to your house to launch a political campign?
They also worked together in 2 boards.

Posted by: adam | October 6, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am

greta
ABC sucks up to the Republicans Disney land and world are in Republican controled states CA. and FL. Disney recives state tax breaks from both states for their Parks.
Diseny Corp is a major donour to the McCain campaign!
ABC JURNO’s try their best to be fair and honest but one must take the earlier informtion in to account!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am

adam
You should really listen to other people rather then the sick bac##rd called Hannity.

Posted by: jim | October 6, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am

McCains’s/Failin 08!

Posted by: Bobba | October 6, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am

adam
Its the truth Obama was eight years old when the Ayers was part of the weather underground!
Obama has said Ayers hosted a coffee for him.. Big deal.
Barack didnt know about Ayers past he knew Ayers as a man concered with education.. Ayers was never found guilty of a crime and Obama has condemed Ayers actons..
Now tell me what you think of sarah and todd palins involvment with AIP ???

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

–ABC sucks up to the Republicans Disney land and world are in Republican controled states CA. and FL. Disney recives state tax breaks from both states for their Parks.–
That’s funny Andrew, considering ABC has been cheerleading Obama since the primaries.

Posted by: Where are the journalists? | October 6, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am

You’ve seen the young ones singing for Obama, have you seen the teens pledging allegiance to Obama? This is seriously some freaky stuff, I feel like I am living in Germany 70 years ago.

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 6, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am

ACORN and Obama started the mortgage crisis (now global banking crisis) by pressuring Congress, Fannie, Freddie and the banks to meet a quota of sub-prime mortgages. What comes out of Obama’s mouth is just the opposite of the truth.

Posted by: Ann | October 6, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

Yeah I must agree Palin should have phrased it differently, but she wanted it to sound really bad so she slandered Obama by saying he was “palling around with him”. She can say he has associations if she wants, but when she lies and says hes pallin around him she better come up with photos of them going to the state fair together or something. Its one thing to be friendly, and quite another to be a friend of. Good people are friendly to most anyone they meet, but it doesnt mean they are friends with them.

Posted by: Fairfax | October 6, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am

I read a wonderfull story yesterday about a young woman on her to Norway to join her new husband and at the airport didn’t have the money to pay the extra baggage fee of $125.00. The airline would not budge…A young well dressed man paid her fee and she took his name and address and paid him when she got to Norway. The year 1988 and the young man was Barack Obama. This is the man Obama really is and our next president!

Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

BREAKING NEWS! Sunday, October 5
Millions in Illegal Contributions from Iran to Obama: Is Iran trying to influence the US elections? Well the records show yes. Iran would benefit with Obama in the White House.
According to both Washington Post and Reuters, Sen. Obama has raised millions of dollars in very questionable contributions including our enemy, Iran. The Federal Elections Commission (FEC) will not confirm whether they’re conducting an investigation, but FEC has asked the Obama campaign to explain or to return some of it. That includes over $17,000 given in $25 increments by someone named “Good Will” and listing his employer as “Loving” and his occupation as “You”. Someone using similar obviously false information donated even more, claiming to be from a different city.
It also includes millions of dollars from overseas donors. While past campaigns have placed stringent safeguards to ensure that all of that money was coming from U.S. citizens, the Obama campaign has not complied:
The FEC breakdown of the Obama campaign has identified a staggering $222.7 million as coming from contributions of $200 or less [note: more than half of the total]. Only $39.6 million of that amount comes from donors the Obama campaign has identified…
…The FEC has compiled a separate database of potentially questionable overseas donations that contains more than 11,500 contributions totaling $33.8 million. More than 520 listed their “state” as “IR,” often an abbreviation for Iran. Another 63 listed it as “UK,” the United Kingdom…
…[about $200,000 might be legit, but] others came from places as far as Saudi Arabia, Somalia, China, Iraq, Italy, and a wide selection of towns and cities in France.
Until recently, the Obama Web site allowed a contributor to select the country where he resided from the entire membership of the United Nations, including North Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran! Read Washington Post report … [Oct. 5, 2008].
What is Obama afraid of?

Posted by: Hussein | October 6, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

WALT DISNEY PRODUCTIONS EMPLOYEES PAC (DISNEY EMPLOYEES POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE),
$264,500. 36 to John McCain -FEC

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am

When Bill Ayers was in his bombing years, Obama was an 8 years old living in Indonesia I believe. The man hosted a coffee for Obama in his first campaign run and they serve on a few boards together. GET OVER IT!! McCain is much more guilty as a member of the Keating 5 and it is certainly more germaine than this idiot stuff on Ayers.

Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | October 6, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Is this really wise for Obama? Going after Keating 5 only makes it that much easier for the McCain campaign to bring up Rev. Wright. It’s the same scenario; McCain had previously said Wright was off limits. What’s stopping them now?

Posted by: matt | October 6, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Wake up America
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71431
Obama is getting illegal contributions from Middle Eastern Arabs. John McCain has dropped out of Michigan because of money restraints…Obama is going to be elected by fraud….America for Sale!!!!

Posted by: Ann | October 6, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Hilarious: the Keating 5, 4 of whom were Democrats. All of this pales in comparison with the criminal negligence of the Democrats and their running into the ground of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Oh, and … then there’s Joe Biden (2002) “I do not believe this is a rush to war. I believe it is a march to peace and security. … (Saddam Hussein) possesses chemical and biological weapons and is seeking nuclear weapons.” …. “We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.” Unless he’s running as VP for a self-aggrandizing little twerp. Some Hope; none Change.

Posted by: Kriuk | October 6, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Sarah the Stepford VP candidate – its time to wind you up for today’s events and tell you what and how to say it.

Posted by: Mike | October 6, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

McCAIN WAS EXONERATED from the Keating Five!!! — The Keating Five was actually the KEATING FOUR DEMOCRATS!!! — The lawyer for the Senate Ethics Committee wanted McCain removed from the investigation altogether, but, as The New York Times reported: “Sen. McCain was the only Republican embroiled in the affair, and DEMOCRATS on the panel would not release him.” Lawyer Robert Bennett (who also represented Clinton in his Lewinsky scandal) said for the hundredth time: “First, I should tell your listeners I’m a registered Democrat, so I’m not on (McCain’s) side of a lot of issues. But I investigated John McCain for a year and a half, at least, when I was special counsel to the Senate Ethics Committee in the Keating Five. … And if there is one thing I am absolutely confident of, it is John McCain is an honest man. I recommended to the Senate Ethics Committee that he be cut out of the case, that there was no evidence against him.”

Posted by: Mark - Indiana | October 6, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

Ticker..you are so right on! How do we get this information out to the low-informed electorate?

Posted by: Intelligent voter | October 6, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

The Keating investigation completely exhonorated John McCain and John Glenn. Two Real American Heros! Of course, Obama hasn’t done anything but excell in Chicago Dirty Politics and lieing! Obama wants to play Robin Hood with my hard earned dollars. All of the people who support him are either the guilty rich or those that want something for nothing! His target voter. He has promised a multitude of things that I cannot afford to pay the bill. If Obama wants to truely help the less fortuniate why don’t he and Joe give a little more of their money. They are real patriotic with my earnings!

Posted by: ubu1991 | October 6, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

Did McCain’s camp dump money into Obama’s campaign just so they could launch these attacks against Obama? What did the republican administration do with all that money sent to Iraq???
It certainly isn’t beneath McCain since he pals around with John Singlaub, the founder of a hate group that supplied weapons in the Iran Contra Affair.
Shame on McCain. Shame on Palin!
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | October 6, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

Wade – do you and Sarah go to the same class – How to manipulate the words and facts to further your goals.

Posted by: Mike | October 6, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

This is unfortunately going to get ugly but Obama has no choice but fight smears with facts about McCain and his impropriety in the Keating 5 scandal.

Posted by: Eric | October 6, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

The Ayers guilt-by-association game has nothing to do with the issues of the day. It’s a dead alley while America is fighting troubles on the high road of its economy.
The Keating scandal is part of the high road. It’s about the way our economy is run; and the role of Washington in that. It’s about McCain lack of good judgment in economic affairs.
Of course McCain publicly announced that he was sorry for his involved in the Keating Five scandal. Lots of criminals say they’re sorry. That doesn’t mean that their despicable acts tell us a lot about their characters, their judgment, their ethics and the decisions they make in life.
McCain was 54 years old when he was involved in the scandal. What was Obama’s age when he once visited a gathering in Ayers house? Obama was 34, a rookie in politics. McCain on the other hand used all his experience and political know how to get involved with a criminal and cause a lot of damage in the life lmife of many elderly Americans.
Think about that, folks.

Posted by: herta | October 6, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

Simply knowing somebody does not make you guilty of their crimes. But if you want to read about the real John McCain, have a look at the latest Rolling Stone

Posted by: JMC | October 6, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

McCain has said: “The appearance of it was wrong. It’s a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Why did McCain apologize if he did nothhing wrong? Theres something more that doesn’t mesh ummmmm?

Posted by: Mike | October 6, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

“Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised “poor judgment”. Do we really need another President that excercises poor judgement in the White House after 8 Years of Clinton (poor moral judgement) and Bush II (poor judgement period).

Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | October 6, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

McCain was not exonerated, he was soundly criticized by the Committee for exercising “poor judgment” when he met with the federal regulators on Keating’s behalf. He simply wasn’t prosecuted. Similarly, Cindy McCain wasn’t prosecuted when she got her doctor to write prescriptions for pain killers under false names. The doctor lost hi medical license by Cindy wasn’t prosecuted.

Posted by: Eric | October 6, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

John has made a pact with the devil,” says Lincoln Chafee, the former GOP senator, who has been appalled at his one-time colleague’s readiness to sacrifice principle for power. Chafee and McCain were the only Republicans to vote against the Bush tax cuts. They locked arms in opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. And they worked together in the “Gang of 14,” which blocked some of Bush’s worst judges from the federal bench.
“On all three — sadly, sadly, sadly — McCain has flip-flopped,” Chafee says. And forget all the “Country First” sloganeering, he adds. “McCain is putting himself first. He’s putting himself first in blinking neon lights.”

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

For those of you who were too young, The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).
The result of the collapse of Lincoln Savings and Loan was that 23,000 [1] mostly elderly investors lost their life savings. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised “poor judgment”.
All five of the senators involved served out their terms. Only Glenn and McCain ran for re-election, and they were both re-elected.
Just think what he can do to our economy if elected! This was just the beginning.

Posted by: Sarah | October 6, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

Obama said that it wasn’t Germane and now it is Germane? Is that a Flip Flop? Was he lieing then or lieing now?

Posted by: ubu1991 | October 6, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

“The Ayers guilt-by-association game has nothing to do with the issues of the day.”
Not so. It gets at the very make up of O’s mentality and philosophy of life that will affect every aspect of our culture. He’s got a wire loose, the machine’s programming is set to destroy mode, and he’ll take the US down as planned by his very anti American handlers, doing more damage to this great country than the Dems could ever dream.

Posted by: Emm | October 6, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

Obama continues to be the “IDIOT” of the race!
McCain/Palin 08!
“COUNTRY FIRST!”

Posted by: DK | October 6, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

If the McCain people want to rummage through presidential candidates’ associations, real or imagined, to turn up figures who threaten to pull down this proud republic, they should begin in-house.
Chief among those to whom responsibility attaches for the financial crisis that is plunging the nation into recession is former Texas senator Phil Gramm, McCain’s own economic guru.
Gramm was always Wall Street’s man in the Senate. As chairman of the Senate Banking Committee during the Clinton administration, he consistently underfunded the Securities and Exchange Commission and kept it from stopping accounting firms from auditing corporations with which they had conflicts of interest.
Gramm’s piece de resistance came on Dec. 15, 2000, when he slipped into an omnibus spending bill a provision called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act (CFMA), which prohibited any governmental regulation of credit default swaps, those insurance policies covering losses on securities in the event they went belly up. As the housing bubble ballooned, the face value of those swaps rose to a tidy $62 trillion. And as the housing bubble burst, those swaps became a massive pile of worthless paper, because no government agency had required the banks to set aside money to back them up.
The CFMA also prohibited government regulation of the energy-trading market, which enabled Enron to nearly bankrupt the state of California before bankrupting itself.
The problem with this exercise, of course, is that Gramm’s relationship to McCain is not comparable to the relationships that Ayers or Wright have with Obama. The idea that either Ayers or Wright would have any impact on the workings of an Obama administration is nonsensical. But Gramm and McCain do have an enduring political and economic alliance. McCain chaired Gramm’s short-lived presidential campaign in 1996; Gramm is co-chair of McCain’s current effort.
McCain has not repudiated reports that Gramm is on the shortlist to become Treasury secretary if McCain is elected, even after Gramm labeled America “a nation of whiners.”

Posted by: hunter | October 6, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

Finally
this Keating thing is getting the attention it should
it is completely relevant to what is happening today
Mccain and deregulation has now cost the country a trillion dollars twice
throw in his push for the war and the other trillion out the window from that
and McCain will be lucky if Americans don’t send him back to Alaska
with Ms. Vitriolic …to secede.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

McPoorjudgement was wrong in the 80′s and is wrong today.
McPalin wants to bring up Rev. Wright.
The McWrongs are going to lose.

Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

Don’t be a moron and use republican talking points to unfairly lampoon Senator Obama with down right smears and dirty scare tactics. Bill Ayers is currently a professor at Illinois State University and has been acquitted of all charges. Just in case you did not know this…felons are not allowed to hold such positions in the educational system. I’m not here to defend Bill Ayers though but this guilt by association tactic used by bigots who try and use this as an excuse to scare the “little old white blue collar voter” away from Senator Obama (the big uppity black man with a scary pastor and terroist associate)is really pathetic. Am I to be afraid because Mr. Obama knew someone that may have done something back in the 1960′s when he was 8 years old? What is the point of this kind of attack? Am I to now believe that Obama is now a terroist? I’m in no way comparing Sen. Obama to christ but it is noteworthy that character assassination and the guilt by association strategy was also used against him. MLK openly dreamed that people would one day not be judged by the “color of their skin” but by the “content of their characters”…yet today we find that ultra-conservatives like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are all to ready to judge Barack Obama not by his on character but by the character, words, and deeds of other. Becareful when you point fingers at someone and grossly misrepresent who they are because more fingers are pointing back at you. In this case you have the “Keating-Five” scandal, the successionist link of Sarah Palin with her husband, Troopergate, and John McCain palling around with the Ann Hathaways criminal ex-boyfriend recently convicted of fraud for impersonating a vatican representative. This attempt by the McCain camp to kick up the dirty attacks reeks of desperation and is a sign of the deep distress his campaign is in. The American people do not believe that Mr. Obama is scary and over the course of the last 2 years they have come to know him. Republicans would be served better by sticking to the issues. You do remember that word “issues” don’t you. That’s the one word you guys are trying to avoid at all cost and keep us focused on lip stick on pigs and the like. Obama/Biden 08′

Posted by: Lester from Huntsville, Al | October 6, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

EMM “he’ll take the US down as planned by his very anti American handlers, doing more damage to this great country than the Dems could ever dream.”
Kind of like McCain and the Keating Five have taken us down this road we are now on economically? Obama was not even living on the mainland of the United States when AYers was blowing things up. He was eight years old.

Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | October 6, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

So, I see we have a lot of McCain voters who are aghast that a candidate would be a victim of guilt by association. I say what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Your candidate fired the first shot, now he’s got a war on his hands. And unlike the last one, he can’t sit it out in a POW camp. And unlike his futile smear tactics, Obama has congressional record on his side.

Posted by: hey Scoob | October 6, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

I heard this morning on the news as pundits talked and I have a question?
When and if(I am a little superstitious) Obama wins and Palin has to go back to Alaska, what happens???
She is McCain’s pit bull and pulling every slander string she can, how will her political career fair then?
Obama/Biden ‘08
One other thought I just heard as to how well/bad she did on the debate: If you have to ask the question “What do you take me for”…then you are asking the wrong question and also asking the same question to McCain as to his judgment.
Because, if you have to wiggle your hips, wink at me and use childish language to try to tell me you qualify for the greatest level job in the world, I wonder, is that how you got your other jobs.

Posted by: Bev | October 6, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am

OMG you mean that McLoser was intimately involved with a criminal who frauded Americans out of billions of dollars….I ever heard that it was one of the excuses that Cindy used for stealing RX’s from her own charity!!!
Also you have Palin GDing women while trying to raise a rukus about Rev. GDing America?? You can totally tell that this campaign is circling farther down into the toilet!

Posted by: Becky | October 6, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am

Unfortunately, any lessons McCain learned from the Keating scandal didn’t affect his unbridled enthusiasm for deregulating the finance industry. “He continues to follow policies that create the same kind of environment we see today, with recurrent financial crises and epidemics of fraud led by CEOs,” says Black, the former S&L regulator. Indeed, if the current financial crisis has a villain, it is Phil Gramm, who remains close to McCain. As chair of the Senate Banking Committee in the late 1990s, Gramm ushered in — with McCain’s fervent support — a massive wave of deregulation for insurance companies and brokerage houses and banks, the aftershocks of which are just now being felt in Wall Street’s catastrophic collapse. McCain, who has admitted that “the issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” relies on Gramm to guide him.
McCain also did his part to loosen regulations on big corporations. In 1997, McCain became chairman of the powerful Senate Commerce Committee, which oversees the insurance and telecommunications industries, as well as the CEO pay packages of those McCain now denounces as “fat cats.” The special interests with business before the committee were big and well-heeled. All told, executives and fundraisers associated with these firms donated $2.6 million to McCain when he served as the chairman or ranking member.
The money bought influence. In 1998, employees of BellSouth contributed more than $16,000 to McCain. The senator returned the favor, asking the Federal Communications Commission to give “serious consideration” to the company’s request to become a long-distance carrier. Days after legislation benefiting the satellite-TV carrier EchoStar cleared McCain’s committee, the company’s founder celebrated by hosting a major fundraiser for McCain’s presidential bid.

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

“as for terrorist palin attended meetings of the alaska,. . .”– marty
Terrorism: See Ayers, destruction of property, conspiracy to commit murder, direct brainwashing of Obama.
Terrorism: See AIP, church related bake sales where Ms. Jones says “I’ll win that cake next year if it’s the last thing I do!”, Todd, by proxy? Sarah.
Gee, better put AIP on most dangerous list pronto.

Posted by: Emm | October 6, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

I find this whole tact unfortunate on both sides. This is a distraction from what most Americans want to hear about – such as what are Obama and McCains plans to resolve the economic crisis, create jobs and address the energy issues. THATS WHAT I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT!!! Stop the madness and grow-up.

Posted by: Michelle | October 6, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

same team
same tactics
9th year
McCain Keating deregulation and banks
a TRILLION dollars from our pockets
McCain Bush aggressive push for Iraq War
a TRILLION dollars from our pockets
McCain Gramm Davis Black and 23 deregulation lobbyist etc etc…
(deregulation and banks AGAIN!)
a TRILLION dollars
How many trillions of losses does one man need to be hanging around and supported and advised by all the idiots who caused those losses before we say
GET AWAY FROM OUR WHITE HOUSE NOW!
McCain Palin and all their campaign…
the worst ticket this country has EVER seen in it’s entire history.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Ayers is known in other communities like Columbia, SC. He is currently a distinguished scholar at the University of South Carolina where Republican Governor Mark Sanford, who supported Senator McCain’s campaign as far back as the 2000 primaries, serves as an ex officio member of the Board of Trustees. By Governor Palin’s standards, that means Governor Sanford shares Ayers’ views.

Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

“Obama was not even living on the mainland of the United States when AYers was blowing things up. He was eight years old.”
No, it was around the time Ayers invited all his marxist radical friends, including Obama, to his house to kick off their political agenda for Obama to begin.

Posted by: Emm | October 6, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

Smear Away ! It won’t change the fact that Obama is supported 100% by the fringe SOCIAL JUSTICE groups who have their plays in OBAMA’s game plan… If you like government forced programs, vote OH BAMA !

Posted by: disillusioned2008 | October 6, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama is three Muslim names (I am not saying all Muslims are terrorist, but we are at war with the radical ones)
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama went 20 years to Hate America Rev. Wright
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama had his political career started from the corrupt political machine in Illinois
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama has ties with Ayers a known terrorist
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama will not put his hand over is heart during the National Anthem
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama will not were the American Flag on his lapel
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama took the American Flag off his jet
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama is senator of Ill.
FACT: Ill. has the highest crime rate
FACT: Ill. has the highest unemployment
FACT: Ill. has the highest taxes
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama 2nd highest money taken from Fannie and Freddie
FACT: He voted present over 160 times because he could not make a decision
FACT: Obama was voted as the most liberal senator
FACT: The times he actually voted it was 96% of the time with the Democrats. There is no way he will reach across the aisle on anything.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

If John McCain had ever belonged to a church where black people or Jews were condemned on a regular basis, the MSM would have crucified him. If John McCain had hung out with radicals who bombed government buildings, the MSM would have crucified him. The MSM – there is racism in this campaign. It’s the racism of white-guilt liberals against their own people.

Posted by: JB in St. Louis | October 6, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Why is the media keeping a lid on this.
Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Keating is not a distraction
Keating was Mccain’s best friend who he was reprimanded for his actions of taking money and trips
and his introduction…contracts offered from Cindy etc…
all the while his involvement with deregulating banks…and too close for comfort relationship with the guy who cost us the same “type” of trillion dollar loss that time…
and now he has Gramm …who arguably is at the center of this trillion dollar mess…
writing our economic future.
same team
same tactics
throw these bums out!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am

IT IS ABOUT TIME,instead of just rolling over or being a foot mat for McCain-Karl Rove attacks! WHICH COUNTRY IS PALIN TALKING ABOUT–THE ONE SHE WANTS TO SECEDE FROM?
WHY IS THE MEDIA IGNORING MCCAIN’S AND PALIN’S ASSOCIATIONS?
MCCAIN is going negative.You know he will use Ayers, Rev. Wright, Rezko and more—old narrative. Why is the media not calling attention to McCain”s own past; Palin has her own dirty lundary lists. WHY is the media not actively questioning Karl Rove-type campaign?Why should this campaign not be focused on issues and current economic woes of the country?Why are you not talking about McCain”s involvement in S&L bank scandal as a member of the notorious “Keaten Five”? That scandal earned McCain the honor of being the only member of Senate ever reprimanded for “bad judgment.” Talking about keeping company, The Nation’s website in mid-September published a photo “of McCain celebrating his seventieth birthday in Montenegro in August 2006 at a yacht party hosted by CONVICTED Italian FELON Raffaello Follieri” (See also The Nation, Oct.1/08). McCain wants to talk Jeremiah Wright; time for the media to remind him about Palin’s witch doctor pastor blessings in her church at Wasilla. Should McCain-Palin ticket win, are they going to be having siances in the White House? Palin talks about “Obama and terrorists” attacking “our country.” Which country is she talking about—the one she wanted to secede from as a member of secessionist organization in Alaska? And do you know that McCain’s brother is a communist sympathizer?
AND According to Paul Begala who has written a book about McCCain, McCain was a member of an extremist organization that was a “gathering place” for “racists” and “anti-Semites.” He states: “I think Governor Palin here is making a strategic mistake. This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign. You know, you can go back, I have written a book about McCain, I had a dozen researchers go through him, I didn’t even put this in the book. But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.” (See Meet The Press, October 5, 2008, reported by Huffington Post). No wonder McCain’s anger that a Black man is challenging him! His anger also shows in the racial overtone of his campaign

Posted by: Dr. Sam | October 6, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

Emm,
Okay, but on this one, it’s not true. When Ayers was a radical, Obama was only 8.
Obama knew Ayers, served on the same board as him, but they weren’t really close. Even then, Obama has always condemned Ayer’s acts of violence.
How has he brainwashed Obama?
To be honest, McCain’s foreign policy would be more violent then Obama’s.
Be fair, like I said, the rape kits thing about Palin wasn’t completely true after looked it up- in this case it isn’t true Obama is buddy-buddy with Ayers, nor does he share his radical views.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

and I encourage people to read the lies that some Mccain supporters are trying to spread below…
like the illegal contribution lies
it’s wmd and Katrina all over again
make up lies…distract…and point fingers before the country can figure out you are lying
same team
same tactics
9th year attempt at destroying America
throw these bums out!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

The former FBI head this morning on the news said and I quote, that Obama still and as recently as 2005 had connections and board affilications to the radical organizations’ that Obama is trying to keep under wraps. See there is no law saying you can belong to a subversive group until you have done something and been caught red handed. A vote for Obama is a vote for MARXISM.

Posted by: political_critic | October 6, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Well, you gotta say MCcain asked for this. There is NO DOUBT that McCain is ONE OF the Keating Five – McCain has even admitted it. I think they should ramp up mCcain and his constant cheating on his wife and how Cindy is actually ‘the other women’ who married another women’s husband. Palin is a floozy who slept with her husband’sbusiness partner -there are affidavitis from the guys family to back up the claim – Go get ‘em Obama! Go for hte juggular! These are NOT honest people. And here you have the bimbo blaming Obama for something some guy did when Obmaa was 8! Obama was EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!!!! Talk about swimming in the gutter and just plain lying. obama DOESN”T HAVE TO LIE to show you McCain and Palin are sleezy selfish dishonest people! He’s only been holding back and sticking to issues to be a good guy. Amazing isn’t it, ???? the black guy (well, half black) is actually the GOOD GUY this time, huh?

Posted by: Matt | October 6, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Let’s face it. The only actual scandal that is part of this race is Troopergate.
One of the candidates is obstructing justice. One of the two campaigns is fighting, with an army of expensive lawyers, an investigation into possible wrongdoings.
That’s all VERY relevant stuff at this stage. The rest is fishing in the dirtiest ponds we’re able to find in the past.

Posted by: burt | October 6, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Last year, after barging into a bipartisan meeting on immigration legislation and attempting to seize the reins, McCain was called out by fellow GOP Sen. John Cornyn of Texas. “Wait a second here,” Cornyn said. “I’ve been sitting in here for all of these negotiations and you just parachute in here on the last day. You’re out of line.” McCain exploded: “F you! I know more about this than anyone in the room.” The incident foreshadowed McCain’s 11th-hour theatrics in September, when he abruptly “suspended” his campaign and inserted himself into the Wall Street bailout debate at the last minute, just as congressional leaders were attempting to finalize a bipartisan agreement.

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

Grey Matter,
1. Ayers committed his atrocious acts decades ago, but he is unrepentant and stated so after 9/11
2. Ayers and Obama weren’t close?? Obama kicked off his political career at Ayers’ house
Get real
Barack Obama = Kimbo Slice
Media hype

Posted by: JA | October 6, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

If Ayers and Obama’s relationship was at best, “casual”, Obama should have risen above the fray. Now he’s trying to divert attention over the most lamest of issues.
But since he’s gone down that road, expect more Wright, Rezko, Freddie/Fannie.
:)

Posted by: John | October 6, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

IT IS ABOUT TIME,instead of just rolling over or being a foot mat for McCain-Karl Rove attacks! WHICH COUNTRY IS PALIN TALKING ABOUT–THE ONE SHE WANTS TO SECEDE FROM?
WHY IS THE MEDIA IGNORING MCCAIN’S AND PALIN’S ASSOCIATIONS?
MCCAIN is going negative.You know he will use Ayers, Rev. Wright, Rezko and more—old narrative. Why is the media not calling attention to McCain”s own past; Palin has her own dirty lundary lists. WHY is the media not actively questioning Karl Rove-type campaign?Why should this campaign not be focused on issues and current economic woes of the country?Why are you not talking about McCain”s involvement in S&L bank scandal as a member of the notorious “Keaten Five”? That scandal earned McCain the honor of being the only member of Senate ever reprimanded for “bad judgment.” Talking about keeping company, The Nation’s website in mid-September published a photo “of McCain celebrating his seventieth birthday in Montenegro in August 2006 at a yacht party hosted by CONVICTED Italian FELON Raffaello Follieri” (See also The Nation, Oct.1/08). McCain wants to talk Jeremiah Wright; time for the media to remind him about Palin’s witch doctor pastor blessings in her church at Wasilla. Should McCain-Palin ticket win, are they going to be having siances in the White House? Palin talks about “Obama and terrorists” attacking “our country.” Which country is she talking about—the one she wanted to secede from as a member of secessionist organization in Alaska? And do you know that McCain’s brother is a communist sympathizer?
AND According to Paul Begala who has written a book about McCCain, McCain was a member of an extremist organization that was a “gathering place” for “racists” and “anti-Semites.” He states: “I think Governor Palin here is making a strategic mistake. This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign. You know, you can go back, I have written a book about McCain, I had a dozen researchers go through him, I didn’t even put this in the book. But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.” (See Meet The Press, October 5, 2008, reported by Huffington Post). No wonder McCain’s anger that a Black man is challenging him! His anger also shows in the racial overtone of his campaign.

Posted by: Dr. Sam | October 6, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

I’ll take the Keating 5 anyday over, Davis, al Monsour, Ayers, Dohrn, Odinga, Rezko, Auchi, Alsammarae, Khalidi, Alinsky, Community Allies, ACORN, etc, etc, etc……

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 6, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

we are crashing as a country
Mccain wants to point to a person Obama met a few times… and lie about it (like wmd and mission accomplished and the rest)
Obama points to the fact that Mccain …his entire life has surrounded himself with the people who have cost us trillions on our backs
the people who have slowly destroyed this country…almost to the brink
throw these lying…distracting bums to the curb.
all americans should be disgusted and angry that
the same team for the last 8 years
is showing clearly with these posts alone
they will continue those same tactics
and throw the country under the bus for their own millionaire wealth.
9th year.
throw these lying bums out!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

WAITING and WAITING and WAITING!!!!
Please one on you so far left liberals tell me I am wrong on any on these facts:
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama is three Muslim names (I am not saying all Muslims are terrorist, but we are at war with the radical ones)
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama went 20 years to Hate America Rev. Wright
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama had his political career started from the corrupt political machine in Illinois
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama has ties with Ayers a known terrorist
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama will not put his hand over is heart during the National Anthem
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama will not were the American Flag on his lapel
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama took the American Flag off his jet
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama is senator of Ill.
FACT: Ill. has the highest crime rate
FACT: Ill. has the highest unemployment
FACT: Ill. has the highest taxes
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama 2nd highest money taken from Fannie and Freddie
FACT: He voted present over 160 times because he could not make a decision
FACT: Obama was voted as the most liberal senator
FACT: The times he actually voted it was 96% of the time with the Democrats. There is no way he will reach across the aisle on anything.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

Why do Obama and his supporters constantly avoid talking about these issues?
It’s very simple. Barack Obama has had 1 year to come out and answer all questions about his associations to Wright, Rezko, Ayers, etc. Instead he gives out partial falsehoods and says little.
Barack Obama just needs to sit down to an open media event and field questions, just like McCain did for the Keating scandal. An honest person has nothing to hide.
Barack Obama = Kimbo Slice
Media hype.

Posted by: JA | October 6, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

On the ayersthing, it’s so stupid. When Obama saw him again theguy was free, had never been in jail ,was a professor. ifyou met a professor of a college who was about 15 years older than you, how would you know ANYTHING about his past? especially when you w ere a child and not at all oldenough to be watching the news or paying attention. I am around Obama’s age and I do not remember the Vietnam war at all. Not at all. There were huge demonstrations around the country, war, and here I was playing jax with my friends. It is beyond absurd. IF this guy is a “terrorist” then why is he walking around free?

Posted by: Frank | October 6, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

I mean, even without all this Keating 5 thing, I was not comfortable with McCain because of other things that are definitely true.
His temperament, for one. It’s good for any politician to have some fire, but McCain can really lose his temper some times. Or he acts impulsively, and uses gut feelings to make some decisions too important to be made that way. Okay, if you’re a soldier, this whole gut feeling thing can be an asset, but if you’re the POTUS, you can’t do that anymore. You’re responsible for a heck lot more people then a commanding officer in the field.
You may use a bit of your gut, but it’s also got to be an informed decision. I knew the economy wasn’t McCain’s strong suit, but his erratic behaviour was really surprising. He flipped-flopped over the bail out within the space of a few hours, then said he would fire the SEC chairman if he were President- although the President doesn’t have the power to do that.
And then he admitted that he actually hadn’t even read the bail out plan yet!!!

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

In Washington they’re called the Keating Five, but in McCain’s family it’s the Keating Two.
BOTH John and Cindy McCain were very much involved in this scandal; Cindy perhaps even more John, but hey – she wasn’t a Senator.
On Oct. 8, 1989, The Arizona Republic revealed that Cindy McCain and her father had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators.
The paper also reported that the McCains, sometimes accompanied by their daughter and baby-sitter, had made at least nine trips at Keating’s expense, sometimes aboard the American Continental jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating’s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay.
McCain also did not pay Keating for some of the trips until years after they were taken, after he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln. Total cost: $13,433.
When the story broke, McCain did nothing to help himself.
“You’re a liar,” McCain said when a Republic reporter asked him about the business relationship between his wife and Keating.
“That’s the spouse’s involvement, you idiot,” McCain said later in the same conversation. “You do understand English, don’t you?”
He also belittled reporters when they asked about his wife’s ties to Keating.
“It’s up to you to find that out, kids.”
The paper ran the story.
In the meantime, McCain’s responses tell us all about the honor and the temper of the man who wishes to occupy The White House.

Posted by: kinship | October 6, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

again
MccainKeating s&l a trillion dollars gone
McCainBush Iraq a trillion dollars gone
McCain Gramm deregulation (AGAIN! ugh)
a trillion dollars gone…
Meanwhile we as a country go down the tubes as they destroy us.
Get angry.
Throw these bums out!!!!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

I hope Palin/McCain are silly enough to go after Rev. Wright. Gosh darn it…if you want to see some really creepy stuff goin’ on in church, look at some of Palin’s. I mean geez…consider the followin’:
1) Some of her pastor’s sermons are virtually indistinguishable from those of fruit loops like Wright, Falwell and Robertson.
2) The African Witch Doctor laying hands on her to keep the witches away while she ran for Governor would make a dandy 30 second spot in swing states with rational voters.
3) She was in attendance at the church while some idiot ranted about Israel being subject to terrorist attacks because Jews wouldn’t convert to Christianity. Let’s run that ad in South Florida.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | October 6, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

Swiftboating will be met and dealt by or own brand of swiftboating. Obama said today in a radio interview, If McCain wants to play dirty then let it be known that I will not throw the first blow but I will throw the last blow. My Man!

Posted by: peoples_prez | October 6, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

Already three trillion dollars gone in Iraq.
Yeah, of course to be realistic, some money would be spent fighting a war, but if Bush and Co. hadn’t used so many private contractors and ordered bidding for contracts, and had not used such terrible strategies, we would have been paying a heck lot less.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

Translation: Obama is scared!!
You Obamabots should ask Jake Tapper about the audio of conversations between Obama and Ayers.
What, you say you haven’t heard any yet? Well, that will be taken care of VERY soon.
The gloves are off and Obama’s own words will take Obama down!

Posted by: USVet | October 6, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

“Barack Obama just needs to sit down to an open media event and field questions, just like McCain did for the Keating scandal”..how dare you even compare the two!!! one is a crook. period. Blaming Mccain for what McCAIN did. The other is some vain attempt to blame Obama forwhat some other people did. This idea that Obama is repsonsible for everyone ELSE’S Actions is absurd. ARe you responsible for what your neighbor does? What a colleague does? What your pastor does, when you’re NOT around that you probably have no idea about? You cons are odd. We actually see Obama as a simple man. He has no power over anyone. He is responsible for what HE does, you know, like McCain is responsible for what McCain does,hence McCain having to asnwer for what MCCAIN did. If someguy did something when Obama was 8 years old, that’s really has nothing to dowith Obama.and If Obama meets him later and in lifeandhe’s just some guy who has a job and leads a nornmal life, he’s not in jail, he’s not been charged, why would Obama even know what happened? why is anything that guy did when obama was a child in any way any responsibility of Obama. I’m sure if you think about it, you know a criminal. think about it. Odds are we all were, at some time, in contact with someone who became a criminal. we are only responsible for what WE do. IF you find that Obama has done something, then let us know. until then, put a sock in it.

Posted by: Frank | October 6, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Why won’t the swiftboat tactics work this year?
Its easy to lose sight of it in the day to day coverage, but the collapse of Wall Street in the last weeks was a seminal event in the history of our nation and our politics. To put the crisis in perspective, Americans have lost a combined 1 trillion dollars in net worth in just the last four weeks alone. Just as President Bush’s failures in Iraq undermined his party’s historic advantage on national security issues, the financial calamity has shown the ruinous implications of the Republican mania for deregulation and slavish devotion to totally unfettered markets.
Republicans and Democrats have been arguing over the proper role of government for a century. In 1980 voters sided with Ronald Reagan and Republicans that government had become too big and intrusive. Then the economy worked in the Republicans’ favor. Today the pendulum has swung in our direction. Republican philosophies have been discredited by events. Voters understand this. This is a big election about big issues. McCain’s smallball will not work. This race will not be decided by lipsticked pigs. And John McCain can not escape that reality. The only unknowns are the size of the margin and the breadth of the Democratic advantage in the next Congress.

Posted by: wolfson | October 6, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Let’s play hardball. The Obama camp should highlight McCain’s marriage for wealth to Cindy abandoning his first wife for wealth even when he was still married to the first, what kind of man is this. McCain’s Sex Scandal with a lobbyist reported in march. Poor’s anger problems and immorality. Let’s play hardball. We shall beat the repubs to their dirty politics. McCain is more stained than the word dirt.

Posted by: Nick | October 6, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Go after whomever you like! The country is sick the wingbats and their negativity. obama is gaining ground because he brings hope. WHile I’m glad Obama is hitting back HARD, after all OBAMA has done NOTHING WRONG. seems all the desperate wingbats can do is try to blame other people’s problems on him. Where as Mccain and Palin BOTH have been dishonest sleezes THEMSELVES in what THEY did. Hey, McCAin, you asked for it. So many folks forgot you were one ofthe Keating Five. Oh well. Shoot a hole in your own boat much?!

Posted by: Matt | October 6, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

I wish the McCain people would remind Americans about Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Diane, Feinstein and the other enemies of American freedom associated with Senator Obama. I’ll take speaking in tongues over GD America any day.

Posted by: Oonogil | October 6, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Frank The only thing about Ayers and this is after the affiliation with Obama his he said “I didn’t do enough” He bombed the pentagon and other places “I didn’t do enough”. This is just one of the people Obama has ties with. Now lets talk about his Rev. Rev. Wright gives Hater America Speeches and you Messiah went to his church for 20 years, was married by him and his children were baptised by him…..Do you need more people he hangs with. I have a bunch but these are the two that stick out the most.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Mr Obama is at a point of desperation.
The last time Ayers was mention he did exactly the same thing.
This proves he has something to hide.
This proves he does not want Ayers in the news or in public eye.
He knows that his friendship and years of a close working relationship with Ayers, Shows his Bad Judgement, shows that his friendship with Anti Americans, Radicals and Communist is What he believes in. That is a personal choice to have them for life long friends.
Mr Obama goes to extreme lengths to change the subject, elude, evade and refuse to anwer any Questions brought up with Association of Ayers Sr. or Jr., To Rezko, Rev Wright, Klaidi, Soros and the rest of his radical anti american, anti government Friends of over 20 years.
He knows That it will expose him and What is truly believes in and plans.
Mr Obama does not want the public to know what he has been mixed up in for over 20 years.
Everything about the keating 5 was ivestigated and all is public knowledge.
Now The Government needs to investigate Mr Obama and his Affairs with all his Radical friends who hate America, the government and what the Government Changed to a new Government. Just like Obama insist on doing.
Who is this Obama, Who are the influences over his life for over 20 years, a terroist who Declared war on America, bombed america, Who has a personal relationship with the communist party. A radical Anti- American and Anti white preacher who has close personal freinds with PLO Activist and leaders. A radical Priest who is anti Government, Anti white. A radical Muslim supporter and activist.
Other Radical Anti Government friends who want a new Government.
They are a few of the perosnal friends Mr obama has chose to keep close his entire adult life, know who they are, what they have done, what they beleive in what they stand for and made a personal choice to keep them his close personal friends through life.
Some of them mentored and taught him, shared meals and family gatherings, who he worked with closely for over 20 years. They influenced him, they are the ones who got him from south side of Chicago to here. He owes all to them.
The American People Want to know, The American people have the right to know.
Why Mr Obama chose these friends, kept these friends after know who they were, what they did and what they believed in.
Do we want them knowing the top secrcts of our government, to we want them influencing Our countries Decisions. Do we want the in the White house available and able to influence our Government or the Change of our Government.
I say heck no.
I say they and Mr Obama need a through investigation and This all bought to the the public before Obama is even considered for President.
**Please contact your public officals and request a full investigation.**

Posted by: seah | October 6, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Look – if McCain can go back to the Ayers and Rev. Wright stuff on Obama, Obama needs to fight back and expose McCain on the Keating 5 scandal. I believe McCain/Palin will go down on Nov 4th because of the financial bailout and Wall Street’s disgrace. It is totally a Republican/Conservative idea to lord it over the middle class by cheating and committing fraud. This is how the rich get richer. On the backs of the middle and lower classes they trample us into the dirt. Capitalism gone wild with no controls – “Get out of my way govt and don’t try to regulate me”. Less taxes so that we can invest in corporations who send jobs overseas. The Chinese will laugh all the way to the bank. Those people don’t buy anything – they just save their money. Well – let’s see how the world runs when China can no longer get tapped out Americans to buy any of their products anymore

Posted by: Bob | October 6, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

I hate to see things come to this but I fully understand this move by Obama. Palin attacked him all weekend on something she knows little about, and what truely gets me is that nobody’s closet is clean. It’s really a shame the McCain folks had to stoop so low.

Posted by: James | October 6, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

And obama just happened to have a 30 minute documentary ready about the Keating five. He should stop whining about negative campaigning , because Wright, Ayers, Rezko and Farakhan are a reflection of his radical roots and lack of judgement. And I suppose saying McCain can’t use a computer because his hands were smashed and trying to Smear Palin over her daughter’s baby are not “negative campaigning” to the liberal media and brainless Obama followers!

Posted by: Rob | October 6, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Who in good conscious can vote Obama?
Ayers, Wright and many others have been linked with this guy, yet people defend him? This goes to the core of Obama’s character, judgement and value system; which he has none.
If the media would do their jobs, for once, and really would have vetted Obama, he wouldn’t even be a senator. Remember they gave Bush a pass, and look what happened.
There are good democrats and bad democrats, and Obama is the latter.
There are good republicans and bad republicans, and Bush is the latter.
McCain/Palin
Clinton 2012

Posted by: NielPA | October 6, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Frank,
Think before writing. John McCain was cleared of all wrongdoing in the Keating scandal, and it was judged that dragging him into it was politically motivated.
In the meantime, we are STILL waiting for Obama to explain his association with terrorists and terrorists sympathizers, a convicted slumlord, a racist conspiracy theory ranting “Reverend” and so on.
Why can’t Obama just field questions like everyone else?
Barack Obama = Kimbo Slice
Media Hype

Posted by: JA | October 6, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

” McCain is more stained than the word dirt”..this is true. We’ve all been polite about McCain abandoning his first wife, the one whom was faithful ot him when he was a POW. Then he came back a nd cheated on her obscenely, eventually with cindy, who didn’t mindsleeping with someone else’s husband. Hey, we’ve all bit our tongues about this. no more. MccAin IS one of the Keating five. We’ve all let this go. let’s stick to the issues dems have said. Well, hey, Mccain you fool, the floodgates have opened. Let’s not forget to talk about his constant diciplinary actions while inschool. dont forget he graduated fourth from LAST in his class. AND let’s throw i nthe reason WHY he was shot down, because hewas NOT listening to his CO orders! He completed the mission, and went back to be a hard ass and got shot down! Let’s look into that a littoe bit deeper. Stupid old man. YOU are the one who has PLENTY TO HIDE. That you blame Obama for other people’s problems is absurd, espeially when YOU have so much to lose if we all look closely at YOU! Let the floodgates OPEN!

Posted by: mary in the homeland | October 6, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

John McCain is an example of what is wrong with this country today and one of the leading causes of it. If you want more of the same vote McCain. If you really want a change vote Obama.

Posted by: con me not | October 6, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

My grandfather taught me that a man is known by the company he keeps. He is also known by the quality of his enemies. Obama should be known as a friend of Wright and Farrakhan. To call them enemies of the US would be giving them too much respect. To call Obama a fool for associating with them would be a compliment.

Posted by: Oonogil | October 6, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

We all forgot about the Keating 5. Oh yeah. he he he. Stupid man. His little act of desperation in getting missy muffet to try to smear Obama is sure gonna backfire. Once a crook,always a crook, right? If it’s good for the goose…..except McCAIN wasteh crook, not some guy who lived in his town. he he he he. Talk about a backfire. stupid old man.

Posted by: too funny | October 6, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

as we can see from the McCain supporters below
same team
same tactics
9th year.
throw these bums out
and remember the last 9 years…the buck doesn’t stop with
Bush Mccain Cheney
it stops with the people that voted for them.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

Actually, I don’t think Obama was ever in bed with the various radicals he’s associated with. He reminds me of those studious Black college types in the 60′s: short hair, normal glasses, good grades – came back after summer vacation with granny glasses, afros, clenched fists, etc. Still weighed in at about 110 lbs., but clenched fist. In short, they succumbed to the peer pressure and started talking the talk. And so he became, instead of a man who happened to be Black, a Black who happened to be a man. To talk the talk means pimping the Social Justice theme as an art form. This all started in the U.S. in the 60′s when the geeks realized the musicians were getting laid and they wanted some too.

Posted by: Kriuk | October 6, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

One more time. Obama is not in an election against Bush. He is in an election against McCain. If he doesn’t have enough guts to campaign against McCain he has no business in politics. He isn’t running against Palin either. If he can’t compare his record and experience with McCain, he needs to give up and go home now. Campaign against your opponent. His supporters need to think about that too. You’re looking more foolish with each passing day.

Posted by: Oonogil | October 6, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Change? How about this for change……I just don’t understand why people seem to forget this….
George Bush has been in office for almost 8 years. The first six the economy was fine, and then in 2006 the American public voted in a Democratic Congress.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006:
1) Consumer confidence plummeted;
2) Gasoline soared to over $4 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it! I am not sure we can afford any more “Democratic Change”!!!!!

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

It is apparent that this is a democrat site. McCain/Palin and Hillary supporters stop stuping to this level of lies,trash,garbage – that the DNC is spewing and remove yourself from this slanted ABC site. Make your stand elsewhere. All of Sen. Obamas connections will come out before long,tapes,(also Michelles) etc, including voter fraud. Let the democrats rejoice in each other. FYI – Keating 5 – McCain innocent – Dems was the ones that went up the river. God, PLEASE Bless America

Posted by: irishmag2 | October 6, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

On Lou Dobbs Tonight, Michael Goodwin and Lou Dobbs falsely claimed that Sen. Joe Biden was wrong when he said during the vice-presidential debate that Sen. John McCain “voted against funding the troops” in a 2007 bill making supplemental appropriations for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact, McCain voted against a supplemental appropriations bill on March 29, 2007, saying at the time that he was opposing it, in part, because it “would establish a timeline” for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq.

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

“Mr Obama is at a point of desperation.”
Hahaha…
You must be living in an alternative universe…
Obama has NEVER dominated the polls, both the (swing( state polls and the national ones, as in this final and crucial stage of the campaign.
Who is desperate, you think? Who surrendered Michigan and is struggling to keep Virginia? Who has already lost Pennsylvabia big time and is trailing in Florida and Ohio?
Check the electoral maps, you fool. Even Rove projects an Obama win of the electoral vote.
Of all 83 electoral vote projection sites on the Internet, there is NONE projrcting a win for McCain anymore.
Some 40+ project an Obama landslide.
Who’s desperate, you think?

Posted by: LOL | October 6, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

BLAH is BHO
because it is the same lies that we have been told for 8 years
it is the same throw out lies and distract for 8 years
while you and the rest of the BUsh Cheney McCain team
destroy our country.
McCain Keating a trillion dollars gone
Mccain Bush a trillion dollars gone.
Mccain Gramm Davis a trillion dollars gone.
Mccain Palin …you know how it goes.
Get angry.
throw these bums out.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

About time the Obama campaign took the gloves off and replied to the vicious lying by the John Bush McCain groupies and the campaign itself. GO OBAMA

Posted by: Herb Gray | October 6, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

I hope Obama wins! Mccain will just continue the Bush-era corruption on capitol hill. We’ll all keep getting poorer and poorer while the oil company execs keep getting richer and richer.

Posted by: Trontime | October 6, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

It’s the little things people do that truly show their character.
In a story that just broke yesterday, a Norwegian woman recounted how, twenty years earlier, when she was just newly-wed, she had overloaded her bags, and was not allowed to board unless she tossed some things out or paid an extra 100 over dollars. She did not have the money, and there was no one she could call- her Norwegian husband had flown ahead of her. At a loss as to what to do, she nearly broke down.
“I’ll pay for her.”
She thanked the man who had said that behind her, and asked for his name: Barack Obama.
Ayers was a law-abiding citizen at that time, Obama might not have known much about Ayer’s radical past- there was no Google back then. He certainly never shared Ayer’s radical views, and did not “keep” Ayer around as company. They were just acquaintances, that’s all.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Media figures have recently accused Democrats of attempting to direct millions of dollars in government money to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in the financial bailout bill. The accusation is false. Neither the draft proposal nor the version of the bill that was voted down in the House contained any language mentioning ACORN. Those making the false claim were misrepresenting a provision — since removed — that would have directed 20 percent of any profits realized on troubled assets purchased under the plan into the Housing Trust Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Andrew
Lou Dobbs views are about as solidly founded in fact…
… as his teeth.
lol

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

(To clarify, the Norwegian woman was at the airport)

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

“as we can see from the McCain supporters below
same team
same tactics
9th year.
throw these bums out
and remember the last 9 years…the buck doesn’t stop with
Bush Mccain Cheney
it stops with the people that voted for them.”
I had to cut and paste it. Perfectly put.
Same policies
same tax policy
WORSTE health care policy! MUCH WORSE!
Same bad temperment
same bad judgement
same ideas
same ‘in bed’ with big oil
EVEN OLDER
EVEN MORE UNHEALTHY
EVEN MORE DANGEROUS VP
i dont know. somehow republicans gave us a ‘same but WORSE” ticket.

Posted by: Frank | October 6, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am

The keating 5 is a legitimate issue it cost tax payers billions of dollars.

Posted by: Scott | October 6, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Obama says one thing, and does the opposite. Expect this if he is elected. Beware America. Don’t say you were not warned.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 6, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

To be fair, we can’t blame Obama for thinking that America is a bad society. He grew up in Indonesia. He was educated by left-wing professors at Columbia and Harward. When he came to Chicago, he joined the radical church of Rev. Wright preaching hatred and damnation of America. He married a woman who has never been proud of her country, as she said at the Democratic convention. He associated with terrorists like Ayers who bombed the Capitol and the Pentagon and who passionately hate America. What can you expect from Obama? Of course, he doesn’t like this country and this society. That’ why he wants to CHANGE it to something that fits him better. This is the change that our enemies need. We don’t. Vote for McCain to save our freedom and prosperity from being hijacked by Obama!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

A question to ABC and the media generally:
Why is it we are 1 year into closely tracked primaries/elections and we still have no clue about Obama’s associations to many radicals.
Why is it YOU have not asked him these questions, but have swept it under the rug?
Why do we have to hear about Palin the Moosehunter nonstop, but we can’t get an honest answer out of Obama regarding his associations – one that does not conflict with the facts.
We know Obama has downplayed these associations, saying he just “knew of” Ayers, when in fact he kicked off his political career at his house.
YOU THE MEDIA HAVE FAILED. You have to understand that most of us now view you as just another opinion and slanted view on the candidates. You have lost our trust.
Good riddance. I’m going to start reading the Financial Times and other overseas publications to get REAL information about US politics.
Barack Obama = Kimbo Slice
Media Construct

Posted by: JA | October 6, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

Oonogil – Please tell us in the last 3 years how McCain is different from Bush on the substantive issues? His voting record states they are in lock-step with each other, but clearly you must have some inside information. Do tell.

Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Barack Obama will finally lift up this great nation again.
The whole wide world is hoping for America to rise from the ashes of Buas and Cheney’s dirty GOP politics.
Now let the race rise again from the mud McCain and Palin are trying to get it in.
Let’s focus on the issues again, on the future, on the America we wish to hand over to our children and grandchildren!
Thank God for Barack Obama.

Posted by: Yes | October 6, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

I am voting Democrat …
… because English has no place being the official language in America.
… because it’s better to turn corn into fuel than it is to eat it despite its inefficiency.
… because I’d rather pay $4 for a gallon of gas than allow drilling for oil off the coasts of America.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because I think the government will do a better job of spending my money than I can.
… because when we pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq, I know the Islamic terrorists will stop trying to kill us because they’ll think we’re a good and decent country.
… because I believe people who can’t tell us if it will rain in two or three days, can now tell us the polar ice caps will disappear in ten years if I don’t start riding a bicycle, build a windmill or inflate my tires to proper levels.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because it’s alright to kill millions of babies as long as we keep violent, convicted murderers on death row alive.
… because I believe businesses in America should not be allowed to make profits. Businesses should just break even and give the rest to the government so politicians and bureaucrats can redistribute the money the way they think it should be redistributed.
… because I believe guns, and not the people misusing them, are the cause of crimes and killings.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because when someone with a weapon threatens me or my family, I know the government can respond faster through a call to 911 than I can with a gun in my hand.
… because oil companies’ 5% profit on a gallon of gas are obscene, but government taxes of 18% on the same gallon of gas are just fine.
… because I believe three or four elitist liberals should rewrite the Constitution every few months to suit some fringe element that could never get their agenda past voters.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to America illegally. We can’t blame them for that, can we?
… because our health care is too expensive. Just because it’s the best in the world doesn’t mean we should have to pay for it.
… because now I can marry whoever I want, so I’ve decided to marry my horse.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because I enjoy the process of trying to decipher Obama’s messages … it stimulates my brain.
… because McCain has too much experience. I want CHANGE … someone with NO experience.
… because Bush will probably go down as one of the top 10 presidents in 30 years, and I enjoy looking stupid.
Now, give me ONE good reason to vote Republican?!?!?

Posted by: Bogey | October 6, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

“Obama might not have known much about Ayer’s radical past”…how would he? It happened when he was 8 years old. I remember NOTHING from I was 8 other thanplaying in the school yard meanwhile the VIetnam war was on and I dont remember it one bit. If you asked me just by memory was there a war when I was young i ‘d have to say no. Then you meet someone years later, he’s got a job, regular guy, like anyone else we meet, how would you know? do YOU know what your neighbor or your colleagues were all doing 20 years ago? ARe you responsible for their behavior? McCain being a crook inthe keating 5? that is MCCAIN and what HE did. That is FAR more relevant. And I had forgot about that. gee, thanks for reminding me. forgot that little jewel.

Posted by: scott is sick of politics | October 6, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

One other thing. McCain Bush has now started a campaignof “guilt by association” just like the dishonored Senator Joe McCarthy did. He even got his name in history – the “McCarthy Era” known for its dishonesty and especially guyilt by association. Now McCain wants to try to outdo even McCarthy. It is time to hit back at the laying, dishonorable John Bush McCain!! GO OBAMA

Posted by: Herb Gray | October 6, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Paige,
McCain is against torture and Guantanamo, Bush is not. McCain is more concerned about the environment, Bush is not. McCain wanted a surge years ago, Bush did not (his hand was forced).

Posted by: JA | October 6, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

McCain/Palin are an absolute joke. These jokers couldn’t give a rat’s a** about the common man or woman. People are losing their collective shirts & Cindy McCain parades around wearing $300,000 outfits. Get real! Joe six-pack my a**!!! Is it possible for America to be that dumb & elect the clown party again??? Don’t get fooled again.

Posted by: RRM | October 6, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Bogey
Excellent!!!!

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Michelle Did It
I believe BO will not release his undergraduate transcripts for good reason. So how did he get through Harvard Lawschool? Michelle. She graduated from Lawschool in 1988 and BO graduated in 1991. He was a summer associate at the lawfirm where she was employed. She was assigned as his mentor. They married in 1992.
Michelle has the smarts and BO is dumb as a Bush box of rocks.

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Get angry.
Throw the “distractors” out.
Throw the liars out.
Throw the millionaire cavalier idiot hawks out.
Make our country safer again.
Make our country middle class focused again.
Make our country popular again.
Bring our allies back to our side.
Throw these bums out.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Investigate Raines, Schumer, Frank, Dodd, Pelosi and Obama for their roles in the FM/FM collapse NOW! Republicans should be screaming for this! Obama is getting nationwide support from people who mistakently believe the Democrats will save us from financial ruin, when in fact they are the ones with their foot on the accelerator as the economy teeters on the edge of a financial precipice! An Obama/Pelosi administration will bankrupt us!

Posted by: Casey | October 6, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama will not were the American Flag on his lapel
__________________________________________________
You may want to check the video of the last Presidential debate as to which candidate was NOT wearing a flag pin.

Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

Hey Jake,
Perhaps McCain’s role in the S&L scandal is germane since it is a prologue to our current financial crisis. Hmmmm?
I mean, I can’t see anything more germane to discuss than McCain’s role in deregulating markets precisely since deregulation and lack of oversight have contributed to the mess we’re in.
It WOULDN’T be germane if our economy was hunky dory, but alas…
Cheers,
Chris

Posted by: ChrisNBama | October 6, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

PALIN IS LYING AGAIN “SLAMING OBAMA FOR VOTING AGAINST FUNDING OUR TROOPS SAYING JOHN MCCAIN WOULD NEVER DO THAT EVER”
HE ALREADY DID:
As Media Matters for America has documented, on March 29, 2007, McCain voted against H.R. 1591, an emergency spending bill that would have funded the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and would have provided more than $1 billion in additional funds to the Department of Veterans Affairs. The Senate passed H.R. 1591 by a margin of 51-47. Once the bill’s conference report was agreed to by the House, the Senate again passed the measure on April 26, 2007, by a vote of 51-46, but McCain did not vote on that version of the bill. By contrast, Sen. Barack Obama and Biden voted for the bill on both occasions. President Bush vetoed the bill, citing its provision for a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.
In a March 29, 2007, statement about the appropriations bill, McCain said:
Additionally, this bill would establish a timeline for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq, regardless of the conditions there. Such a mandate would have grave consequences for the future of Iraq, the stability of the Middle East and the security of Americans at home and abroad. For these reasons, I do not support this bill.

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

HP Boston,
Obama did not pursue his higher degree right out of Columbia. He worked for $10,000 a year as a community organizer- talking to people and bringing their concerns up before officials. No, he was not involved in that ACORN fraud.
THEN he decided to pursue a higher degree, and enrolled in Harvard, unlike Michelle who pursued a higher degree right out of Princeton.
He got into Harvard on his own merit.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Paige
McCain has voted with Bush 85% of the time. Obama has voted strict party lines 97% of the time. We don’t need strict party lines. We need someone who will do what is best for the country not what is best for his party. McCain has demonstrated that he is willing to cross the aisle to work for a common good. Obama has demonstrated that he isn’t.

Posted by: Oonogil | October 6, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama is three Muslim names (I am not saying all Muslims are terrorist, but we are at war with the radical ones)
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama went 20 years to Hate America Rev. Wright
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama had his political career started from the corrupt political machine in Illinois
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama has ties with Ayers a known terrorist
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama will not put his hand over is heart during the National Anthem
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama will not were the American Flag on his lapel
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama took the American Flag off his jet
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama is senator of Ill.
FACT: Ill. has the highest crime rate
FACT: Ill. has the highest unemployment
FACT: Ill. has the highest taxes
FACT: Barrack Hussein Obama 2nd highest money taken from Fannie and Freddie
FACT: He voted present over 160 times because he could not make a decision
FACT: Obama was voted as the most liberal senator
FACT: The times he actually voted it was 96% of the time with the Democrats. There is no way he will reach across the aisle on anything.
————————————
ALL FACTS! YOU TOO CAN FIND ALL THIS INFO!
DO NOT GO TO BO SITE OR FACT CHECK! ALL BS! DO YOUR HOME WORK, OH THAT MAY BE TO MUCH FOR BOTS!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

BLAH is BO
you are the same distracting bologne
tell me what is not factual on these mroe important issues…
where is Mccain different from the last 8 years with our economy or foreign policy?
no where.
Mccain didn’t hang out with Keating and go on vacations with him every other month and fly allover the place…and get him contracts from his wife…as Keating donated to his campaign and worked the deregulation to lose our country (just like now) a trillion dollars for the deregulation and greed of wallstreet?
Mccain didn’t cost us a trillion dollars by chairing the “committee for Liberation of Iraq” a lobbyist group created by Cheney as a PR arm for selling the war…run by Mccain’s Sr. economic advisor and lobbyist Scheunneman…whose members received billions…maybe in the end a trillion dollars in the first contracts out of Iraq.
Mccain and Gramm didn’t write his economic platform and plans for us after fighting for the wall street tycoons and energy speculators that have destroyed our country?
this is a joke
People get angry
throw these lying distracting bums out.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

Sarah Palin is currently under investigation, Obama isn’t.
Obama has never been under investigation.
In the Rezko trial, the conclusion on Obama’s behalf was: “no wrongdoings”.
No wrongdoings, that’s Barack Obama.
McCain was convicted of “poor judgment” in the Keating Five scandal, and the general perception is that that would have cost him his job as an US Senator if it hadn’t been for his status as “American Hero”; the only thing he’s floating on in this campaign as well.
But again, let’s not forget: of all the candidates it is Sarah Palin who is under investigation for the abuse of power. And she’s obstructing justice being done.

Posted by: megan | October 6, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

the media sure is doing it’s job, I posted and somehow it is not showing up.
Just proves my point how biased and in the tank ABC, CBS and definitely NBC are for Obama.

Posted by: NielPA | October 6, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Who, in good conscience, can vote for McCain? The man is clearly out of touch with the direction this country, and the world as a whole, is taking. He does’t know how to use a computer. My 70 year old grandmother could at least send and receive emails! His apparent “maverickyness” in selecting an unknown, unqualified VP running mate, all the while slamming Obama’s perceived “inexperience” is total hypocricy. There’s no way McCain/Palin can win this time around. He should hold on for four more years and try again.

Posted by: Doug | October 6, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Lets see how the republicans are going to defend McCain on the Keating 5 issue.

Posted by: Sense | October 6, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Mr. McCain and Mrs Plain,
Those who lives in glass houses should not cast stones!

Posted by: lion | October 6, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

BLAHisBHO | Oct 6, 2008 9:16:37 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Your post was equally too long to bore people with, but it is equally as juvenile as the other. If that type of vicious lying is all the John Bush McCain campaign has to say,I fewel sorry for them. How about some discussion of issues that matter–like the economy?

Posted by: Herb Gray | October 6, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

as we can see from the McCain team comments below
same team
same tactics
9th year of destroying America.
Get angry
throw these bums out.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

I think it’s too bad Obama is bringing the Keating 5 stuff up. I think it detracts from his message.
It’s too bad he couldn’t stay above the dirty politics McCain has been rolling around in all summer.
This is going to be an ugly month.

Posted by: seth | October 6, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

BLAHisBHO, I stopped reading your post after the first “fact” you posted, as you lost all of your credibility. Not to mention that I found your first error on your first word you posted (it’s Barack, not Barrack …. learn your next president’s name). Next, in that same “fact,” his parents named him Barack Hussein Obama in 1961, with the knowledge that he’d be a terrorist in 2008??? Well done, racist.

Posted by: JD | October 6, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

Thank goodness Obama was voting against the Bush administration. Look at the mess we are in!
_________________________________________________
In a June 2005 interview on NBC’s “Meet The Press,” John McCain stated that he was a strong supporter of President Bush: “I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I have been totally in agreement and support of President Bush. So have we had some disagreements on some issues—particularly domestic issues? Yes. But I will argue my conservative record voting with anyone’s, and I will also submit that my support for President Bush has been active and very impassioned on issues that are important to the American people. And I’m particularly talking about the war on terror, the war in Iraq, national security, national defense, support of men and women in the military, fiscal discipline, a number of other issues. So I strongly disagree with any assertion that I’ve been more at odds with the president of the United States than I have been in agreement with him.” [NBC, “Meet The Press,” 6/19/05]

Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

Finally the ONLY legitimate choice for president is going on the attack against McLame and Pa[l]in. To all of those who will claim “unfair” I would say paybacks are hell. McLame has become more and more desparate as the days go by and that is why he started this attack style campaigning. Too bad it won’t work for him this time. He and Prom Queen Sarah started it and they will NOT like how it ends.

Posted by: Sharon | October 6, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

Looks like Obama LIES again.He won’t let anyone know about his past or talk about the partsthat are known but wants to bring up McCain’s past well why won’t he talk about the other 4 of the Keating 5? I will tell you why they are Democrats and Obama does not want people to know this since it would hurt his electio chances.Obama claims he is going to do one thing then does the exact opposite.Obama has single handedly surrounded evey issue and story during this election.His wwife stated he was a man whose word is his bond well from what he has stated he is bound to everything and every side.Let us not vote for someone who thinks FAIR is anything goes as long as it is against the other side and vote for the man who is putting Country above Politics.That MAN is JOHN MCCAIN and Obama does not even rate being called a man since men stand up for their beliefs and Obama won’t stand for anything(ESPECIALLY THIS NATION).

Posted by: Jesse Tomblin | October 6, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

McCain and Palin, there you go:
Monday, October 06, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows Barack Obama attracting 52% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%.
This is the highest level of support ever recorded for Obama and is his largest lead of the year. It also continues a remarkable twenty-five days in a row where the Democrat’s support has never declined by even a single point.
Wooohoooo!

Posted by: pollster | October 6, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

seth
the difference is Keating and those deregulation lobbyists Mccain was hanging out with then
are the same people that cost us a trillion dollars now…
only this time they had recently deregulated energy speculation and are now trying to deregulate healthcare.
Keating is important…and he was Mccain’s arguably best friend.
Vacations, planes, gatherings at Mccain households…
and then a trillion dollar mess.
sound familiar.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Bogey again thank you I might vote for the Democrats now.
I am voting Democrat …
… because English has no place being the official language in America.
… because it’s better to turn corn into fuel than it is to eat it despite its inefficiency.
… because I’d rather pay $4 for a gallon of gas than allow drilling for oil off the coasts of America.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because I think the government will do a better job of spending my money than I can.
… because when we pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq, I know the Islamic terrorists will stop trying to kill us because they’ll think we’re a good and decent country.
… because I believe people who can’t tell us if it will rain in two or three days, can now tell us the polar ice caps will disappear in ten years if I don’t start riding a bicycle, build a windmill or inflate my tires to proper levels.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because it’s alright to kill millions of babies as long as we keep violent, convicted murderers on death row alive.
… because I believe businesses in America should not be allowed to make profits. Businesses should just break even and give the rest to the government so politicians and bureaucrats can redistribute the money the way they think it should be redistributed.
… because I believe guns, and not the people misusing them, are the cause of crimes and killings.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because when someone with a weapon threatens me or my family, I know the government can respond faster through a call to 911 than I can with a gun in my hand.
… because oil companies’ 5% profit on a gallon of gas are obscene, but government taxes of 18% on the same gallon of gas are just fine.
… because I believe three or four elitist liberals should rewrite the Constitution every few months to suit some fringe element that could never get their agenda past voters.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to America illegally. We can’t blame them for that, can we?
… because our health care is too expensive. Just because it’s the best in the world doesn’t mean we should have to pay for it.
… because now I can marry whoever I want, so I’ve decided to marry my horse.
I’m voting Democrat …
… because I enjoy the process of trying to decipher Obama’s messages … it stimulates my brain.
… because McCain has too much experience. I want CHANGE … someone with NO experience.
… because Bush will probably go down as one of the top 10 presidents in 30 years, and I enjoy looking stupid.
Now, give me ONE good reason to vote Republican?!?!?

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Good. Mccain deserves what he gets. Palin needs to shut up, she does not represent women when she speaks, she has dumbed herself down for the Mccain campaign, something no women should do is sell herself short.
Theres more to talk about with Mccain and Palin, we can talk about her troopergate,sons drug use, Mccains wifes drug use,Mccains campaign manager and on and on. They do not want to go there.

Posted by: Donna | October 6, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Are they doing all the polls in the inner cities? Because when I drive down a country road or in my sub-division, I see 25 McCain signs to 1 Obama signs. Are the Obama people waiting for the hand outs for their signs like they want everything else handed to them from the Government?

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Wade – And this has any relavance either? PLEASE

Posted by: Becky | October 6, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Why don’t everyone just look at the numbers in the polls and trust in the fact that the people believe in Barack instead of a grumpy old man and his wanna be homecoming queen running that needs to judging apple pies at the county fair or making a how-to field dress a moose instrction tape. Let them lie all they want listen to what the nation is saying. McKeating and PaLIE don’t have a clue. She needs to prepare for her statements in front of that Alaska legal system in TROOPERGATE.

Posted by: RonRon723 | October 6, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Obama simply has to return fire against McCain’s lies.
You can see that Obama previously had always avoided attacking McCain and Palin personally. He has slammed their policies in very harsh rhetoric, but he has never, ever questioned their patriotism.
Sad to say the same can’t be said of John “It’s Country First or Obama First” McCain and Sarah “Obama finds America so imperfect…he pals around with terrorists” Palin.
McCain and Palin started throwing the mud, Obama knows that he has no choice but to fight back- so he does, bringing up MCCAIN’S record. Unfortunately with such dirty tricks, Obama has no choice but to get down and dirty too.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

BLAHisBHO
that’s funny
I live in a swing state… and it is all Obama now
people are sick of the liars who screwed us
and clearly by your posts want to continue.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

McCain has voted with Bush 85% of the time
_______________________________________________
100% in 2008
95% in 2007

Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Oh, Oduma’s shiny halo and his brilliant white angel wings put him above anything scandalous; like for instance, Ayers, Rezko, Wright, his Fannie/Freddie associations, Michelle’s ‘so-called’ loan for college, etc. etc. etc.
It must be wonderful for Oduma — I mean to be sitting at the right hand of God.

Posted by: chadsford | October 6, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Obama’s basic premise is sound. McCain’s involvement with the Keating Five was a part of his “deregulate at any cost” philosophy which also helped lead to the present economic meltdown.

Posted by: JAB | October 6, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

I’m voting Democrat because I’m naive enough to believe that the President of the United States should “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” not subvert it for his own political agenda.
I’m voting Democrat because I don’t believe we should destroy our land and seascapes so that the oil company execs can buy another condo in Boca. I hear alot about drilling but nothing about refining the output. Drilling won’t do much if we don’t have the refineries to convert it. How about we build them in YOUR backyard.
I’m voting Democrat because I just saw my 401k go into the toilet last week and came to the sad realization that I will probably NEVER be able to retire. I’ll be working until I die and they’ll find me in my cubicle with my hands perched over my keyboard.
So reimnd me again why I should vote Republican??

Posted by: Karen | October 6, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

Hey BOTS google the 4 Keating FOUR DEMOCRATS WHO WERE GUILTY!
ALSO see who gets big bukaroos from FANNIE AND FREDDIE while you are at it!!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Gotta love how the Emperor Without Clothes, Obama keeps his promise.
You know to look to the “future” and to be a differenc type of politician.
Are’nt you glad Obama is that different politician too?
Can’t wait for the Axis of Incompetence to be in place in January 2009.
That would be Obama, Harry, and Nancy……….
A Chicago Gangster…..a Las Vegas Mobster and a San Francicso Snobster.
Between our 110th Do Nothing Democrat Congress and Obama who hasn’t accomplished anything in his life this should be interesting.
For all those who remember the last time we had Dem POTUS with a Dem Congress it was Jimmy Carters term.
Welcome to Jimmy Carter’s second term.
Brought to you by America’s “free left-wing press”……sad but TRUE.

Posted by: Allen Ridge | October 6, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

BOOM!
McCain will be regretting now that he has
chosen to run the vile and filthy campaign that he is engaging in.
A democratic candidate has at last stepped out with both barrels loaded and is ready to open fire on these weasels.
Finish him off Obama! These dirty and ignorant b&#tards are finally getting it thrown right back at them this time.
Goodbye John McCain & Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Jimi | October 6, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

HP Boston,
Obama still managed to graduate at the top of his class and was President of the Harvard Law Review. Don’t give us that affirmative action bull, even with affirmative action, to get into Harvard, you’ve got to score VERY VERY well, definitely very near 4.0. They do not let idiots into Harvard.
Bush, I believe, got Cs, and McCain was 5th from last. Bush and McCain came from considerably better-off financial backgrounds unlike Obama who made the best of scholarships and opportunities given to him.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

McCain was open an honest about it…after the fact. When he was involved, there wasn’t a whole lot of ‘forthrightness’ on his part. Further, to say he was a ‘republican hostage’ is to imply that he goes along blindly, not a presidential trait.

Posted by: CaffeineHat | October 6, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Grey Matter,Obama went to Harvard after people with very Radical stands bought his way in.Next he was very much involved with ACORN and other radicals.Obama won’t let anyone know about his past and I for one do not want a person in this Nations highest office who wants to hide his past.His past shapes his future and policies.Obama has shown that he does not know this Nations past or the very thing he went to Harvard for(The Constitution).If you take His answer to a marriage amendment toit’s logical conclusion he will only uphold the parts of the 11th and later amendments that he agrees with.I for one don’t think having a leader who picks and chooses only the parts of the law that favor him is one to lead this Nation.Obama is all for exposing the past of others but not himself WHY?WHAT IS HE HIDING?I know the so called MEDIA won’t expose his twofaced stand but someone must so I will do so here and now.You might want to use your grey matter and ponder thess things before you write again and before you vote on Nov 4.

Posted by: Jesse Tomblin | October 6, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Obama was that month asked about DeFazio’s remarks, and he distanced himself from them.
“Congressman DeFazio obviously delivered a speech that wasn’t, uh, wasn’t my speech,” Obama said. “I don’t have any doubt that John McCain’s public record about issues that he’s apologized for and written about is not germane to the presidency.”
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OBUMA’S HIT song, he sings this same tune over and over and over again!
HE NEEDS TO DISTANCE HIMSELF TO A JAIL CELL!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

You and your guilty-by-association crap again.
Yes, those four democrats were wrong. But was the WHOLE party involved? If you are a democrat, are you automatically corrupt? Fellow Republicans have been charged with corruption in other cases. This sort of simplistic logic is the same logic that says: Any Muslim = Possibly Terrorist.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

I’m voting Republican:
Because the best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans’ benefits and combat pay.
I’m voting Republican:
Because the best way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
I’m voting Republican:
Because providing healthcare to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing healthcare to all Americans is socialism.
I’m voting Republican:
Because women can’t be trusted with decisions about their own body, but multi-national cooperations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.

Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

I live in a traditionally red state, that is one of the “swing states” in this election. All around town, I see Obama signs. The only places I see McCain/Palin signs are the upper class neighborhoods (of course, the recipients of McCain’s proposed tax breaks). It will be an historic election… Indiana will go BLUE!

Posted by: Doug | October 6, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Just like now the keating 5 event was the democrates!Both McCain & Glenn were exonerated and the Democrates were found guilty! The problem now is fannie & freddie who the democrates control and use to give loans to PEOPLE WHO CAN’T AFFORD TO BUY A HOME!!! Based on the publics belief that Bush & the republicans are only for the rich should tell you the truth! Republicans don’t give loans to people who can’t pay the loan back! Get real America the bulk of the bad paper came in to Fannie & freddie in the last 2 years under Dodd, Pelosi, Obama & Franks!!! Look at the records and you will see this bailout belongs to the Democratic party! With Obama in office and the dems running the senate & congress Obama will run up the deficit to triple what it is now and TAX TAX TAX us to death!

Posted by: lovingpolitics | October 6, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

First, the 4 democrats in the Keating five weren’t Obama, they just share his party. The one republican in the keating 5 wasn’t a friend of McCain’s, or a McCain ‘pal’ or a fellow republican, IT WAS MCCAIN himself!!
Next, anyone listening to Hannity for their opinions is listening to a guy with all the qualifications of a career disk jockey whose only college degree is an honorary one. Talk radio is entertainment without the burden of fact checking or proof. “A lie can make it around the world before the truth can get its boots on…”
–Mark Twain

Posted by: CaffeineHat | October 6, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Bush, I believe, got Cs, and McCain was 5th from last. Bush and McCain came from considerably better-off financial backgrounds unlike Obama who made the best of scholarships and opportunities given to him.
Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 6, 2008 9:41:28 AM
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OBUMA IS A FAKE AND A FRAUD WITH LITTLE GREY MATTER!
He is not experienced enough to be president of the glee club! He can not be trusted and lies and can be captain of the dodge ball team not ready to lead and NEVER WILL BE!!!
HE IS SLICK RICK the POVERTY PIMP!
He has been mentored at the feet of terrorists!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Time to get off of that sinking ship. Obama/Biden 2008!!

Posted by: Perspective | October 6, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

Who bought him a place in Harvard? Obama worked for ACORN, but he wasn’t involved in the voter fraud at all.
I do not want a president who seems to have no moral authority, who results to such dirty mudslinging. A President who does not discuss issues and spends 3/4 of his speeches trying to tear down his opponent and also not telling us what he is going to do for the economy.
A President who insinuates slyly that his opponents are less-then patriotic for not reasons including not wearing a flag pin (he then promptly forgets to wear one to the first debate) and that only voting for him is patriotic.
Here’s a suitable quote:
“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”- Samuel Johnson.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

Sweet, sweet irony: Palin’s big mouth is going to sink mcsame’s campaign. She only proves that these two are “more of the same”.

Posted by: b48 | October 6, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

HP Boston, Obama graduated at the top of his class was president of the Harvard Law Review and received over 600 job offers upon graduating. Instead he chose to work as a community organizer and that is a fact! Please stop the slander, Obama had to fight back McCain has been using lies and propaganda from the very begining if you can dish it out you sure better be able to take it….

Posted by: Sandy | October 6, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Doug …
There’s a good reason the McCain/Palin signs are only posted in your upscale neighborhoods. Why do you think they live in those neighborhoods? It’s because they are SMART, HARD WORKING AMERICANS that are the reason you and many others are in the workforce. And they know how to vote in order to keep you there! You should follow their lead. VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!!!

Posted by: Bogey | October 6, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

for all of you that say the keating thing does not matter, John Mccain was in trouble for this this is more than a mere asssociation such as ayers, mccain was freinds with keating and took trips with him, we know that he took money, so tell me how ayers matters and this doesn’t, exspecially when the savings and loan crises is like the financial crises that we are going through now. Everytime their is a financial melt down Mccain is in the middle, this is more relevanty than obama knowing Ayers. Palin makes herself look dumb when she is talking about Obama’s associations, when she has used her power to fire people, the Alaska independant party which she spook to last year, hiding her e-mails, son does drugs, daughter is 17 and pregnant, does she really want to talk about judgment? She wanted to sound more folksy at the debate, she tried to dumb it down, this is just an insult, I ahte this women and she needs to shut up, she talks about a place in hell for women who do not support other women, yes a place for you you idiot, according to her women should dumb it down for men, not have the right to choose over their own body, and not be paid the same amopunt as men, do not talk top me about standing up for women cause you do NOT!

Posted by: D | October 6, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

If I am not mistaken about the Polls they had Gore “I discovered the internet” and Kerry “I was for Vietam before I was against it” ahead in polls until we voted.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

BOOM!
OBUMA will be regretting now that he has
chosen to run the vile and filthy campaign that he is engaging in.
A republican candidate has at last stepped out with both barrels loaded and is ready to open fire on these weasels.
Finish him off McCain! These dirty and ignorant ######## are finally getting it thrown right back at them this time.
Goodbye SLICK RICK the POVERTY PIMP!
They have made the race card moot!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

again to those who are trying to spin Keating as a democrat guy …lol
do you know any of the history of McCain and Keating…
jets and vacations
contracts given from family members…large amounts of cash
Just because Mccain didn’t go to jail…
he was reprimanded for the ethics of it…
kind of like his relationship now with Mr. Enron Loophole and dereagulation foer wall street himself…Phil gramm
you know the guy mccain had literally write the economic plan for our future…
yeah I am sure that bodes well for the country
same team
same tactics
9th year Get Angry adn throw these bums OUT!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

“Ultimately, the fall of Lincoln Savings and Loan will cost the U.S. taxpayers $2 billion. It lost $1 million dollars a day from the time Keating bought it in 1984 until its collapse in 1989, and yet he continued to pay off McCain as ‘one of his assets.’”
Regardie’s magazine, April-May 1992 issue.

Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Are you kidding with the “Obama won’t let anyone know about his past”? Since when has a puplic figure been able to keep secrets? That Obama is able to hold off the entire media machine including O’reilly, Limbaugh and Fox News???

Posted by: Karen | October 6, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

HP Boston nice try
no one sees Obama running a bad camapign as Mccain brings up all these issues and that his supporters get angry when the elephant in the trillion dollar room is pointed out…
again
MccainKeating s&l a trillion dollars gone
McCainBush Iraq a trillion dollars gone
McCain Gramm deregulation (AGAIN! ugh)
a trillion dollars gone…
Meanwhile we as a country go down the tubes as they destroy us.
Get angry.
Throw these bums out!!!!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

BLAHisBS- Mistaken:
October 9, 2000
Web posted at: 5:05 p.m. EDT (2105 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush maintains his 8 point lead over his Democratic rival, Vice President Al Gore, in Monday’s CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll.

Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

McCain continues to show poor judgement and lives in a glass house.
Just wait til Palin is dragged back into TrooperGate and cannot ignore the subpoena (and the law).
Both candidates will have blood on their hands. What desparate morons.
This race is going to rapidly move from a close struggle to a huge landslide victory for Obama.

Posted by: PaulinVanc | October 6, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

HP Boston, Obama graduated at the top of his class was president of the Harvard Law Review and received over 600 job offers upon graduating. Instead he chose to work as a community organizer and that is a fact! Please stop the slander, Obama had to fight back McCain has been using lies and propaganda from the very begining if you can dish it out you sure better be able to take it….
Posted by: Sandy | Oct 6, 2008 9:53:19 AM
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OH my I read that same BS on the bots campaign site…every thing there is such BULL!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Obama/Biden will be more of the same.
Vote them all out! VOTE FOR NONE OF THE ABOVE!

Posted by: No Obama Never | October 6, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

To all Obama supporters. A person’s past is what shapes a persons future. If you really think Obama has a past that you would have agreed with, then vote for him. I will support McCain because his past is transparent for all to see (served his country, twenty plus years in the senate, ect.) Remember one thing though, if you get Obama elected he will end up bankrupting this country with all of his entitlement programs. This is one election that you had better do your homework and really understand what you are voting for. Change can sometimes make things a lot worse.

Posted by: billy bob | October 6, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

BLAHisBHO ,
:) Are you sure?
Gore’s sighing appeared to be condescending during the debate. Who was the one everyone thought was behaving rudely at the first presidential debate? (P.S Gore did win the popular vote, though, just not the electoral vote).
And go to electoral-vote. Click “this day in 2004″ and compare.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

Bogey–Nice try. Most of the people with McCain/Palin signs and stickers are blue hairs who’ve voted Republican since their father’s fathers did it. Following a party blindly is the only reason Republicans will win this year.

Posted by: Doug | October 6, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

Why do all of the obamanites attack Sara Palin? Is the life she brings to the campaign that scares them? Woke up in the early AM and watched the debate again and I must say that Joe showed how much of a Obie lackey he is and attacked John although he would paraphrase with how much he loves him. You know you are my friend but….. Did he do anything to promote himself as VP? Not in my opinion. He also appeared a bit frazzled to me during his responses. Kinda funny that the journalist on Fox called Joe’s performance soberized. Heard on Fox about the Keating Five but they said that Mc was exonerated from that. Saw more Mc/Palin signs over the weekend.

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

If he has to lie about his past, if his supporters have to resort to name calling and mudslinging, if he has to change the subject every time his role in the financial crisis is mentioned, if he has to make starring claims to bills he did not sponsor, if accepts truth squads and camps that indoctrinate children to his status as the ‘alpha and omega’ if if he has to cheat to win, what are these ideals he talks about?
If Obama has to cheat to win, Obama is about Obama and nothing else.

Posted by: len | October 6, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

“Hasn’t come clean” actually means he has refuted the GOP’s pathetic slander and the GOP doesn’t want to accept it (note: same party that ignored all intelligence that didn’t agree with its views about Iraq). The facts seem to be that Obama served on the same community organization as Ayers (and many others). He did not select Ayers, Ayers did not select him and they have never been close.
It’s too bad that it’s coming to this. I think both sides are acting badly, but if the McCain campaign is going to go to the sewer, it would be unreasonable and stupid for the Obama campaign to do nothing in reply. Ideally, this shot across the bows will put an end to it, but my gut tells me that as long as the GOP is behind, there is no limit to the depths they will stoop to in their desperation to pull it out.

Posted by: WM | October 6, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

HP Boston–Palin claimed to be all for women’s rights. How can that be, when she doesn’t support the right to choose (the government does NOT belong in my uterus), while mayor of Wasilla, she charged rape victims $1200 for collection and processing of rape kits. Yet she’s all about women’s rights? Her running mate thinks that disparity in pay between men and woman will be cured by giving women more education and training. Yeah… she’s all about women’s rights.

Posted by: Behave | October 6, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Bogey–Nice try. Most of the people with McCain/Palin signs and stickers are blue hairs who’ve voted Republican since their father’s fathers did it. Following a party blindly is the only reason Republicans will win this year.
Posted by: Doug | Oct 6, 2008 10:02:56 AM
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Oh so wrong are you…PUMA! Country first party corrupt!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

We have never had a first lady who stole drugs and was investigated and eventually had to do community service. Cindy admitted all this. Said it was caused by the strain of the Keating 5 trails. Oh please. Both of these people are not worthy of the White House. No even close.

Posted by: Sharon Miller | October 6, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Sandy wrote: HP Boston, Obama graduated at the top of his class was president of the Harvard Law Review and received over 600 job offers upon graduating. Instead he chose to work as a community organizer and that is a fact!
__________
Yes, he did. And I would like to see the MSM carry an article on what he did as a community organizer for ACORN to steal elections (like his first) and to ensure that this country is susceptible to voter fraud (like is going on in Ohio and 14 other states). Then they can do an article about his involvement with ACORN Housing and his role in the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac meltdowns. They should include every underhanded technique he employed along the way, including funneling campaign monies to ACORN ($800,000). Then, the Congress and the Senate should investigate Obama for his role in the housing market collapse. Obama is the MOST CORRUPT, MORALLY BANKRUPT politician to run for President. The media is covering for him at every turn and it is the American public that will suffer for it.

Posted by: Casey | October 6, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Country first, eh? Did McCain put country first when he “suspended” his campaign, threatened to abandon the debate, and rushed back to D.C. for his photo op on the first failed bailout bill? No.. he put HIMSELF first.

Posted by: Doug | October 6, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Mr. and Mrs. McCain did defend the Keatings and they were personal friends of the Keatings. They partied together and had a close personal friendship. So McCain did willingly participate in this fraud to help Keating, however, Keating was so corrupt even the keating 5 could not help. McCain is for all his wealthy corrupt friends, but he has done not one thing for the average American worker in all his years as a Senator. He voted down the most recent minimum wage – yet he praises the American worker as the fundamentals of the economy that are outstanding. (A bad save at best John) If we are so outstanding, why are we layed off over and over again, and why are our jobs continually outsourced to cheaper labor abroad, and why are so many foreigners here taking professional jobs from our own people? Hey McCain if your fundamentals of the economy are so good, why are we, the American worker, are getting wacked from every angle while you just sit there pontificating? If we are so good , why would you vote down a higher minimum wage when wages have not kept up with inflation for over 20 years? Tell me John, what gives? Are you too busy helping corrupt friends to care about the Americian worker? John you are as transparent as glass – you lie!

Posted by: eyeonyou | October 6, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Doug During the bailout crisis, Obama said call me if you need me that is putting himself first like he does with everything. He is self first and McCain/Palin is COUNTRY FIRST.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

McCain’s Keating connection has been INVESTIGATED – unlike Obama’s terrorist ties.
The other 4 senators involved all DEMOCRATS – said that McCain was not involved in any attempt to use his position to cover up or aid Keating, and went so far as to say that he spoke out and said he wouldn’t do anything unethical when they were at the meetings.
NO ONE has investigated Obama – not the DNC or the MSM. And, you know, if I’ve got to choose between someone that DID aid and abet a crook vs. someone who has numerous intense associations with terrororists – I’ll pick the regular kind of crook, not the terrorist kind.
You get Obama in there with his terrorists friends and his democrat friends who have turned spineless in control – and now they have control of our banks, we are just a vote away from a socialist governent takeover.
Open your eyes Unity Bots!!!

Posted by: Donna | October 6, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

Why is the media keeping a lid on this.
Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.
Posted by: BLAHisBHO | Oct 6, 2008 10:08:42 AM
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WOW good info, I believe you are right.
I saw that on the net and now it is in the news.
Thanks for your great post!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

BLAHisBHO–During the crisis, it was OBVIOUS that neither McCain, nor Obama, could do ANYTHING by rushing to DC and meddling in the process. So instead of taking the “Look at me, look at me” tack of the McCain campaign, Obama kept out of DC to talk to voters… those who are affected MOST by this crisis.

Posted by: Doug | October 6, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

It really does disturb me that we have come down to this. However, after watching two elections that were won by Rovian tactics what choice do the Dems honestly have? I would like to personally thank Bush/Cheney/Rove for bringing Presidential politics down to the sewer.

Posted by: jmengate | October 6, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Yeah, I suppose the three polls that gave the debate to Palin are more valid then the 97 others that gave it to Biden.
Sure, I have to admit myself she didn’t trip up as badly as during the Couric interview, but she wasn’t great. She could not answer the question, not could she provide specifics. She got the name of the top commander in Afghanistan wrong. She kept winking, and I guess it’s because I’m a woman, I found it off-putting and frankly phony along with her excessive folksiness.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Donna nice lies
same team
same tactics 9th year
go look at what the Senate said about Mccain’s “ethics” on the Keating scandal…
and his “judgement”
as he vacationed, took moneys, gave contracts….etc etc…etc…
while Keating raped our country for a trillion dollar mess.
sound familiar…
only this time Mccain does not have Keating writing his economic plans and policies
he has Gramm…
mr deregulation of everything and let the wall street protect the people.
disgusting people trying to twist that as anything but a giant elephant in this trillion dollar room..
again
MccainKeating s&l a trillion dollars gone
McCainBush Iraq a trillion dollars gone
McCain Gramm deregulation (AGAIN! ugh)
a trillion dollars gone…
Mccain Palin…well you know the drill…
Meanwhile we as a country go down the tubes as they destroy us.
Get angry.
Throw these bums out!!!!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

1. Obama and Ayers have a long relationship. There are documents that have been released outlining just how closely aligned the two are. There is just too much information to list here. If you care you’ll investigate for yourself. They also worked closely with ACORN and granted money to radical leftist activists causes. All documented.
2. Obama’s 2 books were based on Rev Wrights idealogy and is full of racist statements, such as “White man’s greed puts the world in need”. He sat in Trinity for 20 yrs listening to the racist, radical and anti-american comments of his pastor and obviously agreed because he stayed with him for 20 years!
3. I judge Obama on his liberal positions and failure to work with both sides of the aisle. His character leaves little to be desired. He has completely flip-flopped on every issue that got him to where he is today. I have seen him change his positions depending on who his audience is.
4. Now let’s not forget that Obama is being endorsed by terrorist groups and terror organizations that fund these groups. He is endorsed by the terrorist countries like Iran and Venezuela.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

McCain’s Keating connection has been INVESTIGATED – unlike Obama’s terrorist ties.
The other 4 senators involved all DEMOCRATS – said that McCain was not involved in any attempt to use his position to cover up or aid Keating, and went so far as to say that he spoke out and said he wouldn’t do anything unethical when they were at the meetings.
NO ONE has investigated Obama – not the DNC or the MSM. And, you know, if I’ve got to choose between someone that DID aid and abet a crook vs. someone who has numerous intense associations with terrorists – I’ll pick the regular kind of crook, not the terrorist kind.
You get Obama in there with his terrorists friends and his democrat friends who have turned spineless in control – and now they have control of our banks, we are just a vote away from a socialist government takeover.
Open your eyes Unity Bots!!!
Posted by: Donna | Oct 6, 2008 10:13:07 AM
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Donna, I know he has not even shown proof with a birth Certificate. Can you image he gave a bogus BC!! The law suite to get one is on going. Gee if he can not even have a legitimate BC we can be sure he is hiding TONS of crap!

Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

This election has me very worried. So many things to consider.. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking ‘where did the money come from for Obama’. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama’s life.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ’round the world’ trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question – Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack – not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It’s not cheap to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York ? He was already living in New York.
By ‘chance’ he met Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named ‘Entrepreneur of the Decade’ by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association’. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.. Guess what? They represented ‘Rezar’ which is Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with ‘seed money’ for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans – Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran ! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was ‘sacked’ after the press found out he was having regular contacts with ‘Hamas’, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will ‘Take care of things’…
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those ‘small’ Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could some of it it be from the Middle East ?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, ‘My Muslim faith’. When questioned, ‘he make a mistake’. Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it – Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; then search: Barack Obama and Tony Rezko; and again search Barack Obama and Valerie Jarrett. Each time these are separate searches. Hereʼs another one Daily Times – Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times – September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question – If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this?
A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear – ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!

Posted by: political_critic | October 6, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

all america has to do is read the same “lie, distract and hope we can get to decision time before we get called on it”
strategy that mccain supporters on here are trying to realize
same team
same tactics
9th year
Get angry throw these lying bums out as the country is going down the tubes
they continue their slime.
throw these bums out.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

McCain’s Keating Five connection is troubling since McCain traveled on his plane and partied as a guest in his house. But the troubling connection is Palin. The feds put Keating in the big House. McCain put Palin on his ticket.
She cannot utter a complete sentence on her own.

Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

It’s strange how Obama is alleged to have these close and intense relationships, but Fox News could only show his closeness to these “people” by showing them in SPLIT screen. Hmmmm… John McCain on the other hand…. Obama should not just go toe to toe with McCain/Palin. It’s time to end their careers. Destroy both of them.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Come on America!! Though english is my Second language I can Judge Mccain Palin is pure ignorant…they remind me All Ignorant African Leaders..dectators trying to stay in power by scarying people..by stating the word “Hero” hero my ass…talk about economic, dialogue, peace, education, diplomacy…or USA dictatorial country…think twice before vote….don’t see upper skin…try to look inside skin…palin and mCCaine are just shallow, empty….

Posted by: Joseph | October 6, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Palin is behaving like such a phony doing all the folksiness thing. Okay, maybe that wasn’t all that bad, but what’s up with all the winks?
And I hated it how she said “Never Again” referring to the mortgage crisis and everything. It just trivialised what “Never Again” stood for.
“Never Again” is a much abused phrase. Never Again will we allow another genocide to take place on our watch, that’s what Never Again means. “Never Again” was what we said after the Holocaust. After the Khmer Rouge massacres. After Bosnia. After Rwanda.
And now, Sudan? McCain has not said a peep about the genocide in Sudan, Obama has written several reports and wrote the foreword for a book looking to raise awareness about the Sudanese genocide. McCain thinks that our soldiers would be put to better use in Iraq where they want us to get out instead of maybe in Sudan where people are crying for our help.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Palin started with her wacko comment about Obama cavorting with terrorists. McCain\Palin hands are not clean and have no business throwing mud. When someone’s throwing mud at you you throw some back. It is all pretty childish but it comes down to Republicans being desperate and McCain\Palin really having nothing to offer this country but more of the policy that have placed us in the position we are currently in. McCain = Bush. And sorry Sarah, you have to look backwards to understand where you’ve come from to understand where you’re going. Looking back over the last 8 years of Republican led policy convinces me and many others that a new direction is needed. Obama offers that. McCain\Palin do not.

Posted by: indy_voter | October 6, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

The connection between Obama and Ayers is sketchy at best. Meanwhile, McCain was a good pal of Charles Keating who joined an effort to get regulators to back off on his buddy, the biggest crook of the Savings and Loan Scandal who ended up costing taxpayers billions. If McCain hadn’t sold his soul to Rove and the Bush strategists he could have run a real campaign.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | October 6, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

BLAHisBHO – The people are still voting Obama… Come what may!!
Is that the best you got!!
People let’s get this show on the Road.
I’m firm!
OBAMA 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

McCain has turned into such a jerk and liar – I used to love the guy, thought he was such a great American – now I know the truth. His campaign manager was a lobbyist for Fannie and Freddie taking thousands per month for 5-1/2 years, while McCain railed against them AND lobbyists. What a liar, what a hypocrit. He sat there grinning when asked about his advisor Carly Fiorina, who took a 42 million golden parachute after being fired by HP while 20,000 people lost their jobs. He praised her. His economic advisor Phil Gramm, who called us a nation of whiners wrote the damaging legislation that did away with keeping commercial banks and investment banks separate – including deregulation – McCain voted for both. The ultimate joke in “putting country first” is picking that nitwit Palin, who goes out and recites what they’ve been drumming into her head. Talk about dangerous – he’s put himself first. She is against everything he used to stand for. He has lost his honor. He certainly lost my vote.

Posted by: Jenna | October 6, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

McCain has put it in fair play, Obama was cleared of any wrong doing regarding rezco, denounced wright and ayers for their actions. Yet McCain uses that, McCain was in Keating’s back pocket. He was cut lose so that group could keep its senator. Look for his aggressive racial animosity as well to come up, being rabidly against MLK day and pro flying the confederate flag on government buildings. he only changed those positions when they affected him politically.

Posted by: Danny | October 6, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Your just getting to this NOW, where have you BEEN?

Posted by: hmn | October 6, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Danny Did you know MLK was a Republican?

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Sarah….it’s over! It’s like a bad divorce…I Know. You just have to pick up yourself and travel to a land of nowhere!

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

BLAH…did you know what the alternative party was during those times?

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Charles Keating was involved in a Savings and Loan scandal many years ago. Charles Keating never was anti-American. Charles Keating did not bomb the Pentagon or US capitol, like Obama’s friend William Ayers did. In addition, Keating never made anti-American, Anti-white comments like Obama’s friend and pastor Rev. Wright did. Moreover, without Obama’s friend convicted felon Tony Rezko, Obama would not have been able to acquire his $2 million mansion in Chicago. Moreover Wm. Ayers helped Obama win his Senate seat in Illinois and the US Senate, and is also helping with Obama’s Presidential bid. Obama’s chief strategist even said that Ayers and Obama were “friendly.” In addition, Wm. Ayers is unrepentent about his terrorist activities in the 1960′s and 1970′s. I would rather be friends with Keating any day, than with Ayers, Rev. Wright and Tony Rezko.

Posted by: Doreen | October 6, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Obama made it seem at the debate he hardly knew Ayers. Besides serving on the Woods Fund board, in 1997 he and Ayers were to be on a University of Chicago panel organized by Michelle Obama, then an associate dean. And Ayers could reinforce Obama as an elitist: In 2002, Obama and Ayers were scheduled to be on a UIC panel with this lampoon-able title: “Intellectuals in Times of Crisis

Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

McCain, please stop wearing the “US NAVY” hat on the campaign trail.
You’ve tarnished your honor…don’t drag the Navy along with you.

Posted by: Navy man | October 6, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

I know my coworkers. I’m not responsible for their actions. I don’t care if they are the AntiChrist. I wouldn’t quit my job.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Geevil
who cares
are you watching the news?
as mccain supporters try to distract just like the last 8 years
their policies are destroying our nation.
Get Angry America
throw these bums out!!!!!!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Loving politics, Get real. The democrats will erase the deficate that we have. Remember the Democrats had a surplus before your Deregulating Mega spending friends the Republicans took office. Now we a bailng out your rich republican buddies debt with a government bailout. The republicans sucked the American people dry and now hide behind patriotic slogans to distract people from the truth.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

I hope they ask McCain what was on the document he signed for the enemy.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Danny Obams denounced wright and ayers for their actions only because it came public how these people Hate America. Before it came out on TV and his sermons were public, Obama said Wright was is spirtual leader. Come on he only denounced them to the public. Obama probably has Rev. Wright send him tapes of his sermons since he can not be seen at his church. Obama went to the Church for 20 years and now he denounced him. Give me a break. Obama is a big lie from where he grew up to what his beliefs are for the Country.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Trailer park Palin:
“I’d like to give a ‘shout out’…”
That sounded very Presidential Sarah!
Please go back to Alaska, to your $10,000 a year, business owner 1st dude!

Posted by: alaskabonics | October 6, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

I voted Democrat today because…
I believe that the best times are still to come and not behind us.
I believe that every American citizen should have the same rights and privileges regardless of age, sex, race, social status, sexual orientation, religion, etc.
I believe that the government should not be allowed to tell a person what he/she can and can’t do with his/her body.
I believe that the money wasted for the senseless war in Iraq should have been spent on shoring up Social Security, reducing our budget deficit, and providing health care for those in need.
I believe that guns contribute to violent crime and they should be kept out of the hands of criminals.
I believe that decent education should be available to all American citizens and not just the ones who can afford it.
I believe that a tax structure designed to favor the wealthiest 1% is unfair to those who contribute real value to society and don’t receive just compensation.
I believe that better teachers are made by helping them continue their education after they’ve graduated college, not by adjusting their compensation based on some inaccurate standardized testing.
I believe that good foreign policy consists of working with our allies and our enemies at the bargaining table, not acting unilaterally regardless of how other nations feel about it.
I believe that unscrupulous corporate executives that squandered their companies’ resources should be held accountable for their actions without jeopardizing the lives of their front-line employees.
I believe that our leaders should be intelligent and educated and should not use their religions to justify their actions.
I believe that Barack Obama and Joe Biden embody the characteristics mentioned above and John McCain and Sarah Palin do not.

Posted by: OSURubydoo | October 6, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Navy man There is no way you can say McCain tarnished anything. He is true hero and people that served with him will tell you this. Ohio will be for McCain/Palin and we will be country first!!!

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

Doreen
John Mccain best buddy (literally)
Charles Keating cost us a trillion dollars while McCain was supporting their friendship flying around together vacationing together…introducing him together…
are you watching the news?
now Mccain is taking the peoplemwho are causing the destruction of our country over the last 8 years by the same beliefs of Charles Keating
and he is having them plan the future.
the country is going down the tubes as Mccain plays the same political distraction games that destroyed us for the last 8 years
and remember
the buck doesn’t stop with Bush McCain Cheney over the last 9 years
it stops with the people who voted for them and even more so
those who argued for them.
America GET ANGRY!
throw these lying millionaire centered bums out!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Why didn’t Obama give the league of women voters like McCAin a list of the fundraising? They asked both candidates to give them this information due Edwards claim that Obama had been bundling his fundraising.
If Obama is so honest why doesn’t he show like McCain did who all the people are that have donated under $200 dollars.
It was McCain not OBama that did get campaign reform! He really hasn’t done
much except run for president.
Be honest Obama show the money!

Posted by: Melissa | October 6, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

McCain:
Your campaign is going down in flames!!!!
I am so HAPPY that senator Obama is getting tough on McCain…..
Obama 2008

Posted by: shalom | October 6, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Obama talks about transparency in government – how about transparency in his past?
Open up your Columbia and Harvard records for public scrutiny, Mr. Obama.
Lift the rule of silence imposed by the schools on your professors. Lift the rule of silence imposed on your friends, roommates and classmates.
And yea, just who did pay for your trip in 1981? Who did pay for your education? Who is going to be the power behind your socialist throne when you and your terrorist cohorts strongarm congress into allowing a takeover?
It’s not enough to defeat Obama in November. We need a complete overhaul in congress. Vote against all incumbents who are running opposed in November!!

Posted by: Donna | October 6, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Palin = blind ambition!
and she wants to increase the powers of the VP. Darth Vader Cheney wanted the same thing.

Posted by: ambition blinds | October 6, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

If McCain and palin won on Nov4, Guess who would celebrate the most? Bin Laden, Iran, China, N.Kora and Huzbolahha..Because the enjoyed the way Gorge Bush was running USA, they don’t want Smart presiden to come..USA is falling down..making lots of enemy fewr friend…Democrat will be pain on ass for USA enemy by making lots of friends instead of making enemy, by restoring USA power…as for me McCaine and Paline are going a Proxi war against USA people knowning Nothing about polotics…DEMS for USA and DEMS for WORld..Dems For smart peopl…Dems for peace Loving..Dems For Once again for powerfull USA….Don’t let scare you those ignorant like Bush did last election..not tjis time ..not this time…Ignorance Got to stop now.
Go Obama Go BIden
GO Democrat.

Posted by: Joseph | October 6, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

BLAHisBHO – McCain is no hero! He’s a Zero!

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Obama is as dirty as the filthy roads of South Chicago
Each and every bone of this individual is corrupted

Posted by: thug | October 6, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

And not to mention the fact that McCain is good buddies with G. Gordon Liddy…
See, this “guilt by association” tactic is not going to work for McCain and Palin. They need to stick to the real issues. Palin is currently the only person on either ticket to be under criminal investigation, for Pete’s sake.

Posted by: briwil2 | October 6, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

War heroes do not sign documents or aid and abet the enemy. War heroes do not block resources to continue to look for POWS/MIAs. And war heroes do not have the dismal voting record denying aid to veterans. McCain is a ZERO not a HERO. I’m a Navy vet and I know a hero when I see one.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

who hates America now?
or atleast who in their golden years puts themselves ahead of the country?
the last 8 years and Mccain’s choices for advisors speak differently.
One team contuinues the distractions as their policies and actions have destroyeed us over the last 8 years.
One team picks a VP candidate who can’t answer simple questions with follow ups about the issues we face
all for a political; ploy
one team has the same team writing our economic focus on the wealthy and trickle down
that we have been practicing for 8 years as we tumble into this abyss
America get angry
throw the bums out and get our country back.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Well, Obama has demonstrated that he is NOT a man of his word, so this is not surprising in the least.

Posted by: Leisa | October 6, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

TRUE heroes are humble. They don’t make careers out of it.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Donna
Who cares?

Posted by: jock59801 | October 6, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

The Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s Reverend for 20 yrs would like all of us to read the works of the Black Theologian James H. Cone. Rv. Wright taught Obama out of this book.

Posted by: natalie | October 6, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Melissa
You need to stop watching fox
FEC Rules state you dont have to provide information on people that donate under $200..
Thats the law not Obama being shady!
Please check facts

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

How dare anyone attempt to tarnish McCain’s service in and support of our military.
300 retired generals and admirals have endorsed McCain.
Over 200 “high ranking” retired officers have endorsed him.
They know who the right man for the job is – and that would not be a pro-terrorist who tries to subvert US negotiations with Iraq.

Posted by: Donna | October 6, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Ok lets talk about economics. You all say that Obama is looking out for the middle class. Lets say you retire and want to sell your house and move into something smaller, OOOOOps Obama just raised the taxes on profits, let say you want to sell some of your stocks, oooooops Obama wants to raise taxes, lets say your mom and/or dad passes away and leave you with some money, stocks, business or anything oooooooops Obama wants to raise the taxes. He is not looking out for middle class. He is going to drive jobs away buy taxing the small businesses. Both my brothers have small businesses and they both said they would have to lay off if Obama becomes President so they would be able to afford the taxes. Obama is going to kill the job market and the economy with his tax proposal. Wake up people the rich drive the economy with jobs and their spending. This is the truth and nothing but the truth.

Posted by: so help me | October 6, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Obama’s version of REAL CHANGE
- A 14 yr old in OHIO was registered as a Democrat
- 5 German tourists in NYC were registered as Democrats … the person who registered these folks did not even bother to ask for any ID …
Is this the change Dumbocrats craving for ?

Posted by: Fraud | October 6, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Sarah Palin and her husband were once members of a separatist party that wanted nothing to do with America. They wanted to keep all the resources for themselves. Just last year she showed up at one of their rallies and Todd has been involved for many, many years as well! Separatist movements are straight-up treason in my opinion. THEY WANTED TO BE NO PART OF AMERICA! If the Palins had it their way… Alaska would be its own country charging us twice us much in oil! This, to me, is far bigger than Obama meeting with a guy that was a political radical over 10 years ago that killed some people when Obama was 8.

Posted by: Ender | October 6, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Isn’t John Glenn campaigning for Obama? If Obama cares so much about this scandal, why does he let one of its perpetrators speak for him?!

Posted by: Marci | October 6, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Donna – how dare I? This vet just did! If you want to embrace a traitor and call him a hero then go right ahead!

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Palins attack on Biden today was sick!!
Bidens family are greiving the last of his wifes mother and palin attacks him!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

so help me
nice but more lies
Obama’s promise is not taxing anyone who makes less than 250k
even with capital gains.
so stop.
same team same tactics
destroying our country with lies , policies and distractions
for a 9th year.
throw these bums out!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Funny how all the McSame Republican cronnies are falling in line. No answers for the Economy, No answers for the War, No answers for Health Care, no Answers for Oil Dependancy other then drill baby drill. Let’s talk mislead the american people about Obama’s associates in the past, but erase necessary emails and documents from McSame’s and Painin’s.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Pro-terrorist?
Excuse me? I think he’s a pro-peace person unlike McCain who believes we must “intimidate” all our enemies into submission even if it means placing a toll on our own soldiers.
Obama did not subvert the negotiations. The Republican Senators with him supported his story and said that McCain was stretching the truth- Obama said that they should not rush into an agreement that could tie the next administration’s hands, not that they should slow down the withdrawal.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

McCain’s and his family roles in dealing with former Lincoln S&L officials and the attorneys, including the Keating Law Firm where McCain collected over 50K this year needs to be called into play.
Where are ALL the MCCAIN families’ tax returns and investments. Its very easy to hide things filing separate returns.

Posted by: scott jeffries | October 6, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

No consumers…no business.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Fraud – And then…and then, and then and then, and then.

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

all anyone has to do is read the McCain supporters on here
to see Mccain wants us on the same distractions road that lead us to today.
same team
same tactics
9th year.
throw the liars and distracters to the curb
Get Angry
tak the country back from the team that has destroyed
and obviouly from these posts alone…clearly want that road to continue.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Fraud
You watched fox and friends!
That host guy broke the law if he really saw Germans being signed up he was meant to call the police! Why didnt he call a camera crew ?
Its a lie! I hope the feds question him!
Fox news is fake!

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

so help me
yes
and clearly over and over
how many times does Biden and Obama and the rest have to clarify
their tax burden if for people over 200k a year
or couples that make 250 k a year.
as you argue for the same policies and tax platform that got us HERE.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Change? How about this for change……I just don’t understand why people seem to forget this….
George Bush has been in office for almost 8 years. The first six the economy was fine, and then in 2006 the American public voted in a Democratic Congress.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006:
1) Consumer confidence plummeted;
2) Gasoline soared to over $4 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it! I am not sure we can afford any more “Democratic Change”!!!!!

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

McCain’s son and their families’ role in the recent bank takovers in AZ and NV should be fair game as well.

Posted by: scott jeffries | October 6, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Bidens son and brother in law is also fair game!!!

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

The first six years were NOT good. Sorry.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

I rather have a true American hero for president than a flip flopping rookie politician who has as his mentor a hateful pastor who insults and condemns America.
I am a democrat for McCain
Hillary ’12.

Posted by: Kimberly | October 6, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Nope – the economy and the war are fair game. Stay focused folks!

Posted by: STHU | October 6, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Well,
the rot had already started because of the money effectively going down the toilet in Iraq where we were paying overpriced contractors, added on to terrible economic policies. It just wasn’t obvious yet, but now it’s showing.
The Democrats have been in Congress for only two years-and they still don’t have the absolute majority to make it easier to push bills through.
Not to mention a certain President keeps vetoing their bills, maybe.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Kimberly – Good for you, you’re one in a million.
Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

The joke of the election season …
Obama would cut TAXES …
He has voted 94 Times to raise taxes
1 of every 3 people making 250,000 are small buisness owners
40% of the 95% dont even pay any income taxes
He would raise Capital Gains taxes … this will affect the main stream with 401
Obama is the wrong change …

Posted by: Taxing Freak | October 6, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

The only way you can say the first 6 years were not great under President Bush is if you are a liberal wanting the free ride Obama wants to give you from the rich. I am a conservative who works for his money and deserves what I have. I don’t want the government to take anything from me and I don’t want the government to tell me how to live. I don’t want to become a socialist government under Barack Hussien Obama. His ties with extremist are far from a lie. He has been with Hate America Rev. Wright for over 20 years. Change is right with McCain/Palin 08/12

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Ender, Your right, I am not sure why the media has not done a better job of pointing out how her husband was deeply involved with a sepratist group. And then the Painin’s want to talk about patriotism. She talks about waiving a white flag. She and her husband want to wave their own flag in Alaska that is not Red White and Blue.
Where I come from, when you whip the crap out of someone and you walk away leaving them on the ground bleeding you still one the fight. You did not have to hang out for the next 50 yrs to see if the person you whipped learned their lesson. The war on terror is not Iraq and never was. All a disgraceful lye.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

so help me
let us clarify
your lies
here is what almost every reputable site has said about the lies you spread about home sales..
“ad claims Obama would increase taxes “on the sale of your home.” In fact, home-sale profits of up to $500,000 per couple would continue to be exempt from capital gains taxes. Very few sales would see an increase under Obama’s proposal to raise the capital gains rate. ”
PROFITS!!!!!!!!
we are sick of the lies
do you know how small of a percentage of small business would be effected?
people who make under 250k are almost literally never going to see a 500k profit on their homes…
and if they in the very rare case they did… they would be in a category similar to anyone making over 250k a year so stop…in this horrific situation they should see a slight raise in their tax…on that large profit
that is the point…ugh.
same team
same tactics
same results
throw these lying distracting manipulating bums out.

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Keating donated more than $100,000 to the McCain Senatorial campaign that was money taken from average Americans as Keating used the housing market to separate people from hard earned money. McCain was “censured” by Congress. Truth of the matter is that Congressman, Henry B. Gonzales of Texas, who despised anyone who took advantage of Americans, would have to face the music regardless of political party affiliation. He went after the Keating “5″ like a pit bull and everyone involved with Keating had to face the music. The issue was so tense that Henry had to assign “body guards” to protect him from harm. McCain showed “Poor Judgement” then and is now showing more poor judgement–remember he had Phil Graham as his economic advisor for his campaign before Graham described American citizens as a “bunch of WHINERS!”

Posted by: Diego Gallegos | October 6, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

BLAH…no I am looking at the ENTIRE picture and you want to look at some moment in time. BUSH is a failure! PERIOD.

Posted by: STHU | October 6, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

the economy doesn’t react that fast, genius. It is clear that Bush’s policies of deregulation and budget deficits caused this mess. Under the Clinton administration, with a balanced budget, the economy did splendidly
You just said it the economy doesn’t react that fast, so what Clinton did was all because of President Bush Sr. and what President Bush Jr. did was because of Clinton???? Don’t know what you mean??

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

BLAHISBHO
6 years of smashing everything that kept our country strong…
and as the “crate and Barrel” analogy works well
paying off dishes that you broke…may take a lot more time to pay off than it did to break them,
this country was slowly destroyed for 8 years…
and the same team that broke us during those years…
fought to keep that status quo against those trying to fix it for the next 2.
throw these policy smashers
…these distracters…these liars…these bums OUT!

Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

What is common between Fannie, Fredie, Acron, Economic Melt Down 2008 – Obama
And this fellow wants the country to believe in him ?

Posted by: Crooks4Obama | October 6, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

If BUSH was SOOOOOOOOOO great, then why isn’t he out campaigning for his twin McCain? Because he can’t defend the reality.

Posted by: STHU | October 6, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Taxing Freak
Show me the vote in which as you CLAIM: “Obama voted to raise taxes 94 times”
Show me the votes they dont exist!
Lies and smeers the Republican road to the White house ??
NOT THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OBAMA 08

Posted by: Andrew | October 6, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

65% of businesses pay no taxes. They cry about the 35% tax rate, but use every loophole to dodge paying them and then send jobs overseas. Some CEOs pay LESS taxes than you and I . Go figure!

Posted by: STHU | October 6, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Kimberly, we both know that 28% of Hillary supporters polled state that they are supporting McCain now, not terrorists.
I believe that comes out to about 5 million voters.
That support has not dwindled since June when Obama was selected via his corrupt primary campaign as the nominee.

Posted by: Donna | October 6, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

BlahishBHO, How much money do you make in a year? If it is less then 200 grand a year then your taxes will not increase. If you do make 200 grand a year, who cares if you get taxed more.
What will that mean. Regular unleaded instead of premium. If you make less then 200 grand the democratic party will be good for you. I know you don’t want the gov telling you what to do, but I would rather have elected officials telling me what to do then some rich tycoon that runs major corporations and makes up rediculas rules that take advantage of hard working honest American People.
You have had it your way for the last 8 years and look where we are now. Checks and balances are there for a reason, because the greedy rich man will only take more not give back like the Republican party wants us to believe. By the way Republicans are no way no how more patriotic then Democrats.
No way, no how, No McSame.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

BLAHisBHO
Please try to have a spot of commonsense. It DEPENDS on what kind of policy it is. In this case:
Bush shredded consumer regulations in addition to pouring lots of money in Iraq. That was in his first term.
Now with the war cost running into the trillions and a deficit, the rot that started with the poor regulations are showing- about 5-6 years later.
The thing is that BUSH was the president who espoused the disastrous policies that are to blame for the financial meltdown.

Posted by: Grey Matter | October 6, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

All you liberals on here probably think Pelosi and Reid are great for the economy and have great ideas also. The Democrats have had congress for 2 years and have done nothing and that is the same we would get out of Obama. He will ruin the economy with his taxes and drive jobs overseas. His taxes do not make since because where is he going to get the money to make our government even bigger then it is. Where is this money going to come from, the abortion clinics?

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Finally it gets interesting.
Why just beat McCain, when you can beat him AND destroy him?

Posted by: Steeevyo | October 6, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

BRB… McCain is no hero. He is just playing one. If he knew that those sealed documents he signed would be released, then he would change his tune. He’s a fraud.

Posted by: STHU | October 6, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Donna – crunch your numbers all you want. The train leaves without or without you. Vote however you want, but stop the whining. The country can no longer worry about your hurt feelings. Grow up!

Posted by: STHU | October 6, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

texas outlaw I make well under $200k a year but I know his taxes don’t make sense. I want to keep my job and him taxing small businesses I will not have a job because my job relies on these small businesses. It only makes sense if he taxes the $250 or more people he would not be able to run the government and he will lose jobs overseas and the unemployment will go up because of these small businesses will have to close. The $250k and up people are the ones who spend in our economy and are the ones that hire for their business.
I want to keep my job Voting for McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

The GOP has expanded the size of government! They have also run up the national debt, despite waving the “fiscal conservative” banner. Hypocrisy!

Posted by: STHU | October 6, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Donna, I am not suprised at you 28% stat, but those people where never going to vote for Obama. I would bet they will never vote for a black man in their life time. A fact is a fact. There are many older white folks that will never vote for a black man. He will not need their old prejudice vote. He will have twice as many new voters make up for those votes.
McSame slipping in every swing state.
Obama may make a run on all the swing states and all he really needs to do is take one of them. Same old politics days are numbered. 28 days left.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Barack Obama’s counter attack is laughable. All McCain has to do is give a stump speech stating that he was exonerated, felt that he made a mistake, and spent the next 18 years fighting corruption in Washington.
Oh, wait, he already did that……
Has Obama repented on any of his dirt and baggage? NOPE!!!
Obama can not win the negative campaign, but McCain can!
Regardless of what happens, Obama will finish this campaign with a serious cloud of negativity over his head which will destroy him in the end.

Posted by: ComOB | October 6, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Fear-Mongers are out in force again this political cycle. However, Americans now know your LITTLE TRICK,
Obama ’08!

Posted by: KC | October 6, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

texas outlaw I really just want to keep what I have earned. No I don’t make $250k a year but I make a decent living and Obama will not help me. He will probably make me lose my job because it could easily go overseas if he taxes like he wants to. This is just a fact with his tax plan.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

ComOB – Get over it. I know…Obama is winning.
Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

If consumers do not have income to spend, not only will you not have a job there will not be a business. People are tapped!
BOTTOM UP BABY! When you send stimulus checks you are conceding that you have OVERTAXED the consumer base.

Posted by: STHU | October 6, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

I am a Republican and this is a big mistake by Sarah Palin.
In this time of economic crisis and serious issues, they look like they are grasping for straws.
This is the same woman whose husband belong to the Alaska independence party as of very recently.
I don’t think they want to to go there with McCain’s Keating scandal and ties to communist and racist organizations. No wonder McCain is slipping in polls. Palin is fallling and real sign of McCains judgement, sure she is feisty but comes off as being an airhead . She did not fool many people with her non answers and winking during the debates.
McCain is complaning now that Obama is hitting back. He is truly erratic and out of touch.

Posted by: Linda | October 6, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Darkhorse, You do not have any proof that the changes in the tax structure are going to hurt the job market. You only have McSame retorhic. How do you explain all the job losses since the policies you are for have been in place.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

BLAHisBHO – If you don’t make 250K as you stated…then you’re on the wrong side. Hurry up! before the train leaves! Don’t get left behind….
OBAMA 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

McLame is a right wing wack job. Anyone who votes for him are Brain Washed SHEEP.

Posted by: KC | October 6, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

BlakeC, they haven’t gone over the difference between admonished and exonerated on Fraud & Friends. Let’s not expect too much early on a Monday morning.

Posted by: American Patriot | October 6, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Quote posted by: Donna
“we are just a vote away from a socialist government takeover”
You have made such a mess of your banking system due to lack of regulation that it is affecting the whole world.
Canadian (amoung others) banks are looking at taking over a number of your financial. You are owe so much money to the Chinese that they basically own the country. All created by your government and it’s programs/policy.

Posted by: PaulinVanc | October 6, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

The Obama campaign will not roll over as the Kerry and Gore camps did. Obama is going to win this election. Every day he gets a bit closer. McCain/Palin supporters, YOU SHOULD REALIZE THIS. MCCAIN IS GOING TO LOSE. PERIOD.
Now with the Dow dipping below 10k, ouch, more bad economic news.
More bad economic news = McCain loss.
The wheels are starting to come off.

Posted by: SgtPepper | October 6, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

The fight of the century!!!
Bigger than Ali and George Foreman!!!!
Obama, as with Ali, WILL WIN!!!!!

Posted by: shalom | October 6, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Obama and the DNC will try anything to get the focus off of Obama’s own shortcomings. Long ago, McCain was cleared of any wrongdoing related to the Keating 5. Obama has NOT been cleared of wrongdoing in the Rezko scandal and the apparent kickbacks in campaign contributions he received from those who he supported to get government funding for projects, which were substandard work.

Posted by: Chuck | October 6, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Shalom – Can I say Amen to that one
Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Chuck, you worry about crap like that and we’ll move you and your kind out of the way, much like FDR did to Hoover, and fix this country.
How does it feel to be on the wrong side of history?
Sure feels good to be on the right side!

Posted by: SgtPepper | October 6, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Chuck – Try again.
Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

SgtPepper – Chuck must be on the wrong train to nowhere – get it!
Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Not true, Texas. I would have gladly thrown my support behind someone trustworthy, regardless of the color of their skin.
If the dem nominee had been Harold Ford, Jr, I’d be wearing bells and whistles.
You discount the number of African Americans who also supported Hillary who refuse to vote for Obama. There are a number of them, as well.

Posted by: Donna | October 6, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Oh brother! Not the so called Conservative Right again playing desperate election politics. You people and the McCain fail and failed to note that Rev. Wright and Ayers were brought up throughout the entire Democratic primary and what happen Obama is still standing. We have 29 days left and now you all wish to bring Ayers and Wright back up again. Why? Desperate………… Desperate!!!!!!!!.
It shows….. the GOP has no agenda to run on…… It the GOP…..has failed the American people for the 8th year and if the GOP happens to think that Ayers and Wright scandals or lack their of will work….. Keep wishing.
McCain is arizona, while Obama is driving up I-95 to 1600 PA Avenue,SW….. You see GOP……. the American people granted you all 8 years ……… * 8 YEARS and look what you have done………. Nothing…… No Bin laden, 700 Billion bailout, 2 trillion debt, 2 wars with no end…….and the worse economic and sociological crisis in history…… I would attempt to go into the increase in abortions, same sex marriages, and so forth which are issues you GOP losers live for……
Obama 08……..
Obama 12 if no Obama then there will be another chance he is only 46, he can sit out 2 terms while you losers destroy the country further.
If hillary thinks, African Americans gonna vote for her in 2012, she best keep on dreaming. We dont forget nothing.

Posted by: nubiangent08 | October 6, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Donna – not many… Majority for Obama
Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Remember the last time we were promised a middle class tax cut? It was by impeached, disbarred Bill Clinton. One month after he was elected guess what? No tax cut. Instead he increased taxes on the middle class. If Obama is elected, history will repeat itself. All of you who voted your pocketbooks before will be SUCKERS AGAIN.

Posted by: proudofamerica | October 6, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

U.S.For.McCain.Yeah. – Try again. Obama’s campaign is Massive and I mean Massive!!!!
Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Tanya, therein lies the real racism, as in the past elections around 10% of African Americans (I guess the conservative ones) voted republican. Now 97% of AA’s are voting for Obama. Why the increase?
They are voting based on his skin color.

Posted by: Donna | October 6, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

obama’s campaign is only doing this to counter attack against questions regarding his associations. and i for one can not get past questioning his substatial relationship with bill ayers, or his 20 year relationship with a radical pastor. any why won’t he supply a valid birth certificate? and why did he wear a wedding ring in the early nineties? and with what passport did he travel to pakistan???

Posted by: sally, ny | October 6, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

proudofamerica – Who took your money….
Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

If any of you believe you are going to pay less taxes if Obama is elected I have some swamp land to sell you – in Alaska!

Posted by: proudofamerica | October 6, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Obama is not a perfect person by no means and all the McCain camp is doing is bringing up stuff that has been pushed back and hid. Never dealt with and is forcing the Press to finally stop kissing Obama’s butt and report news with no Bias. so we the voters have ALL the information to make our decision next month at the Polls.

Posted by: RRED8012 | October 6, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Donna – WRONG! tell me this – why didn’t Sharpton and Jackson get this type of overwhelming support if this about color? Please answer. And second, if you are in such an uproar over the % of AA who voted for Obama then where was your outrage when AA voted 100% for a white candidate? It’s the issues. It’s the ideology. How are Asians voting? Do you have stats for that? If not, why is that?

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Donna – I think people want change. It has nothing to do with Obama’s skin color. I think the real issue with the majority of people is that McCain has been mentally affected from the war that he participated in. It’s obvious when you see him on tv. I know mental disease, he’s not normal, I belive its from the war…check out his blinking. We need someone who is mentally stable to run this country.

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Tanya:
Yes!!!! And thank you for supporting the champ: sen. Obama, 2008

Posted by: shalom | October 6, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

What are conservative African Americans?

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

McCain has the right to fire back… but not by lying; dividing and showing no respect to others
By constantly making false statements to tear down his opponent and trying to take people‘s attention away from real issues
, McCain shows that he does not (or no longer) put country first. He is just a dishonest and reckless politician who would do whatever to get the power. By having Palin do the nasty job of making stupid and totally false statements he is telling me that he shows no respect to his vice president and to women. It’s time for Palin to use her brain(if she has one) if they really want the white house.
McCain /Palin are going too far. In any other civilised and democratic country, this race would be already over.

Posted by: fred Maton | October 6, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

So Obama says he was in Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years but never heard him say all those anti-American, hateful things we’ve all seen on TV?!! Yeah right!! This is more about his credibility than an association with someone who is a racist and who thinks America is the cause of all the bad things that happen in the world. According to Rev. Wright (and his disciples Michele & Barack)we deserved 911-shameful!!

Posted by: proudofamerica | October 6, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Tanya, I can agree with your point. I only brought out those stats to counter the racism finger pointed at me.
What I can’t agree with is people telling me that, as a democrat, I do not own my vote and that if I am not voting for Obama I must be racist.
I do not trust the man. Period.
I think he is dangerous.

Posted by: Donna | October 6, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Shalom – Thanks. Obama’s tunout will be massive and I mean massive!!! The biggest in history.

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

texas outlaw are you old enough to remember President Carter, I know what is going to happen. Obama’s plan is the same as Peanut man but to a more extreme. You are probably how old 22 or 23. You are listening to a man who is a very good, no I will say excellent speaker in Obama but his speeches have no substance and his tax plan will kill the small business. You need to also look at who as been his mentors. Rev. Wright, Ayers, Retsko….and goes on and on. These people are not just very radical their beliefs are socialist and communism.
I really beleive you liberals are upset you didn’t get the best candidate in the race, Hilliary, because I really beleive there would be no blogs right now if she was running or if your messiah would of picked her for his running mate.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

So you defended yourself from accusations that you are racist by posting stats to infer that AA were voting based on race. Effectively you are calling AA racists with no leg to stand on. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Donna:
If smart Black republicans such former US rep. JC Watts and gen. Colin Powell are considering voting for senator Obama—a Democrat.
Why Donna? Why America?
Because it’s been suggested from Black Republicans that they are essentially ignored within the Republican Party. Look at McCain/Palin rallies….How many people of color do you see?
Look at their convention…..Let’s wake up America!!!!
The Republican Party does not represent all America……This is really stupid in 2008. Time out for that foolishness.
The Democratic Party looks like America……And that is why folks are supporting Obama…….
Enough with the GOP using moral issues as a shield to hide behind racism towards minorities…..I’m tired of that junk…And Black Republicans are getting tired of that trash too……
P.S. And I wish Micheal Steele would stop sounding silly on Fox News…..

Posted by: shalom | October 6, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Yea, his turnout will be massive, but the precincts will have to turn away the teenagers under 18 and all those dead folks.
I heard today that out of 1500 new democrat registrations somewhere, only 4 of them were actual people who were alive and over 18.
LOL!!

Posted by: Donna | October 6, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

BLAH… I asked you earlier and not surprisingly you did not answer. Here’s your second chance. What was the alternative party for AAs voting in the south at that time?

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

Donna – Everyone is entitled to their own choice of candidate. If your choice is McCain then so it be. You have your own self-determinism. Of cours, no candidate is perfect, but I just feel we need someone with mental stability. But then again, that’s just my opinion. Therefore, I have chosen Obama. I would respect any decision you make.

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

shalom It is called reversed racism. Because Whites are not allowed to call blacks racist. Obama called is own grandmother a typical old white lady and nothing was said. If a white person was to say a typical old black lady it would have racism all over it. It is a disgrace that Obama can get away with calling some one a typical white lady.

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

McSame lovers,just remember Obama did not have to testifiy under oath in the Tony Resko trial or the William Ayers
Trial,considering he was 8yrs. when it happened,also Ayers was never covicted of Terrorism. McSame had go before Congress under oath and beg for his political future.

Posted by: ajeffy | October 6, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Donna: Can I add my dead great, great dead mother?
LOL :))))

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

I don’t care about who was friends with whom way back when … there are far more important issues at hand to worry about. The Dow is crashing this morning even after the $700B bailout that McCain takes credit for bringing about. I want someone who understands the economy and can lead us out of this mess with a steady hand. I don’t want a candidate who jumps from one news cycle to the next just to create divertions. McCain has admitted that the economy is not his thing and he doesn’t know what to do about it. Then step out of the way, and let the people who know do the job. Vote Obama if you want to have some money left in your pocket after this fiasco, and don’t let all the white noise and winking distract you.

Posted by: annaloh | October 6, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

Darkhorse – It’s true blacks say white and whites say black. We all do it. We all joke about it. Doesn’t make it right. But lets all come together and unite. How about it!

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Does Obama have any friends who aren’t. Radicals, felons, anti-American or his wife?
It was disgusting watching Obama’s church laughing, clapping and jumping for joy the Sunday right after 9/11.
My church was praying. Not Obama’s.

Posted by: Tanya | October 6, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

annaloh typical liberal. I don’t want to hear anything bad about Obama. Lets just hide it all under the carpet like the media does. We don’t want to hear about his 20 years in Rev. Wright’s I hate America church, or the terroist Ayers who just said I wish I could of done more besides bombing American buildings. Yes lets just put all his past under the rug and if he does become President he can bring them all out at once.

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

In response to “CANDOR | posted Oct 6, 2008 12:45:53 AM” — the important issue is POOR JUDGEMENT. Senator McCain has on countless occasions shown poor judgment. He showed poor judgment in:
1) voting to go into Iraq war and expecting to win easily and be greeted with flowers.
2) to selecting Palen for the second most important position in America – and especially considering his own health issue.
3) in now wishing to deregulate health industry in the same way the banking industry was deregulated!
4) in thinking the fundamentals of America is strong.
4) in multiple flip-flopping while the American crisis of economy failure was taking place.
5) in having an adulterous relationship – and as his wife was laying sick!
6) in selecting Gramm as his primary financial advisor.
7) in selecting a whole group of lobbyist as his campaign advisors – then claiming that he will fight lobbying in Washington if elected.
8) advocating excessive financial deregulation – and still believe in it.
9) Keating5 participation.
Really, we can go on and on and on — bad judgment! We can’t have someone with such damning record of bad judgments as our leader — God knows where he’ll judge to lead America!! Senator McCain said he makes impulsive decisions (we saw evidence in that in the last few weeks) and whether they’re good or bad, accepts them and moves on. Problem is, bad judgment may be fine for an individual when the result is personal, but when that individual will make bad judgment for the country – that is a problem for all of us. If we know someone has made such drastic bad judgments, why would we vote for him?

Posted by: Nina | October 6, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Blacks can be racist just like anyone else. Here’s the problem. Too many do not even attempt to put themselves in the other person’s shoes. Let’s assume Obama loves his Grandmother. First consider the times in which she grew up. Then consider what he saw as a child who looked black, but observed racist behavior, even from a person he knew loved him, but had behaviors that were negative towards people that looked like himself. Imagine the conflict in a young mind. People do not like to talk about race because it’s controversial. Racism takes victims, even those standing on the sidelines. It was profoundly brave and honest, whether you misinterpreted his statement or not, for a PRESIDENTIAL candidate to even speak about the topic. What modern day candidate has ever touched the topic?

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

BlahishBho, I am 40, and I have seen the right wing conservitive idology “FAIL”. Government and liberal are dirty words to only the Right Wing Extremist. Remember life “Liberty” and the pursuit of happyness. Give me “Liberty” or give me death. Liberty is a good word except to Faciist that would rather have Corporations run the country. Yes huge corporations with no regulation = facist. Look what the corporations have done. They have held this country hostage like terroists. They control the government. I would rather pay taxes and have regulation then to let the rich get richer and break the working mans back.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

I don’t understand why people would say Iraq was bad judgement. If I not mistaken we have not been attacked since we went to Iraq. No attacks have been on our soil. So let just say we put a deep wound in the terrorist by going to Iraq. This has hurt them more the Afganistan or Pakistan. We have been in these two countries longer and did not stop the attacks. So where is it wrong to stop attacks. Me I think it was the right decision to get Hussien out of there and help the Iraqi people bring freedom to their country. By the way was Barack Hussein Obama named after the Iraqi leader? or another leader?

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

Keating 5??? is that the case where Mccain was acquitted?? hmm…since when did acquittal makes you still guilty. Let’s hear more about Obama’s associations and what he plans to do with these people when he’s in the white house.

Posted by: hannah | October 6, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Darkhorse:
I don’t see where you responded directly to Black Republicans considering voting for Obama…
By the way, White Republicans are also moving towards Obama….

Posted by: shalom | October 6, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

McCain was ADMONISHED…not ACQUITTED.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Don’t feed me this BS It was profoundly brave and honest, whether you misinterpreted his statement or not, for a PRESIDENTIAL candidate to even speak about the topic. What modern day candidate has ever touched the topic?
Obama is racist just like his church he attended for 20 years. Hate America and Hate the whites.

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

You can not change the color of my skin.
McCain/Palin 08/12

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

I am surprised that Obama brought this up because McCain was cleared of any wrong doing. McCain has been an open book about this. Obama has so many more skeletons in his closet and he just invited the public to open the closet door.

Posted by: dlc | October 6, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

In response to “Posted by: BLAHisBHO | Oct 6, 2008 8:40:14 AM”
Well I don’t know which worlds you’re living in but anyone with TV can see that Obama does put his hand over is heart during the National Anthem, does wear the American Flag on his lapel, did disassociate with the church, is of CHRISTIAN FAITH, and voted 96% with democrats as he was voting against the follies of the republican leader, President Bush: note McCain voted 90% WITH president Bush!!

Posted by: Nina | October 6, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

shalom You can not change the color of my skin. I will be this dark not matter what you try.
McCain/Palin 08/12

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

It amazes me how much white people will go through from keeping minorities from succeeding in this nation. Please read your Bibles please!!!!

Posted by: Will | October 6, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

The probability of more attacks on US soil can not be eliminated. I don’t blame Bush for the attack. I have a problem with an inappropriate reaction and response. It’s been a total failure. Osama is a Saudi. The hijackers …..
15 Saudis, 1 Egyptian, 1 Lebanese, 2 from union of Arab Emirates.
Why attack Iraq? It’s already been proven that the evidence to go to war was not credible.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Darkhorse… like I said. Most can not put themselves in another’s shoes. And when they do they don’t like the fit.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Keating is a direct correlation to today’s financial crisis. Its completely germane-no matter what Obama says. I realize that he didn’t want to be “that guy” that brought up old issues but if McCain can bring up nonsense like Ayers and Rezko, Keating is certainly relevant. Remember this was an incident where deregulation and failure to have secured assets took down the whole S&L industry. McCain attempted to intervene and had VERY CLOSE ties to Keating-even taking vacations with him. This is VERY VERY relevant to today’s problem. It was high time someone went there!

Posted by: Suz in KS | October 6, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Forget for a moment why we went to war and forget when we decide to get out. Before Iraq, the government is secular and keeps Iran at bay. When we leave the country it will be Shiite dominated just like Iran. And we wonder why it’s difficult to get out. This is what happens when fools rush in. When the leadership is emotional versus practical.

Posted by: ST | October 6, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Obama should answer all the questions that every American voter has the right to hear… about his responses to his 20 years association with his pastor, Ayers, Rezko, and many more before he can attack McCain because as far as that scandal is concern McCain is cleared from the investigation. His attack is already motu propio, meaning has been dead and no beef while his judgment, his character, and his position are the issues that he should face rather than beat a dead horse.

Posted by: darnobama | October 6, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

I think accusations of advocating teaching sex to children before reading and “pallin around with terrorists” do a lot to redifine one’s attitude toward what is germane.

Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Yes, let’s stay Germane. Phil Gramm.

Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

omg, I was all for Barack Obama until this desperate nasty smear job! He insists that my Ohioan hero and our national hero Ohio Sen. John Glenn (the astronaut, first American to orbit the Earth in space) was a corrupt embezzler in the Keating Five scandal, when all the trials and investigations have all completely and totally exonnerated him and John McCain! what hideousness… how disappointing that Barack Obama would give us such hope that he would change politics as we know it, and resort to the same old tired Rovian tactics of smear and tar and throw anything and anyone under the bus for cheap political gain.

Posted by: Ohioan Obamacrat for McCain! | October 6, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Since this blog is about the Keating 5, I would like to hear one scandal or transgression that Obama was involved in that cost you the taxpayer $124 Billion and still growing?

Posted by: jeffery_yoder | October 6, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Hannah is so right. McCain was acquitted. Just like O.J. The first time.
Ha, ha. I can now post just like a right wing nut job.

Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

If we all want to talk about church we can do so. Rev. Wright was saying that all the bad things that are happening in America today is not the plan God has for this country. Republicans you took it up against him.
Palin is on the internet casting out witchcraft. In American it is an abormination. The Pastor from Africa is a dibolical man he is not a true man of God. Evangelical votes if you all vote for Palin than you all are part of witchcraft practice.

Posted by: Kathleen | October 6, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Hannah, McCain was not acquitted of misusuing his Senate position to help bail out a crook, He was never charged.
He is just like Bill Ayers. Never charged. See how easy this is.

Posted by: ricky | October 6, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Nina You must not watch the liberal TV of ABC, MSNBC, CNN….They even asked him why he doesn’t wear the flag on his lapel and aksed him why he did not put his hand over his heart with a picture of him standing next to Hilliary, who should be the Democratic Presidential nominee, He said that does not mean he is not patriotic. Yet, it comes back to his ties with Rev. Wright, Ayers and many more. Also tell me why he took the American flag off his jet and put his own symbol on it. He is not a true patriotic American. No way no how.

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

what is so important with Keating 5 is how similiar it is to the current financial crisis…it is painful that nothing was learned from the s&l scandal. as a true independt…mccain may not have been found guilty, but was very much invloved. it will be interesting to if the Obama camp got the facts straight

Posted by: bdp | October 6, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

I find it ironic that Obama accuses McCain of running a smear campaign, and then dredges up the Keating 5. Mccain was exonerated by a committee led by Democrats, including former Clinton White House counsel Bob Bennett. Perhaps those on the left should look at more objective websites. Oh, and ST, whoever you are, your arguments for judgment, or lack thereof are thin. Your points are countered by mine in parenteses. Have a nice day!
1) voting to go into Iraq war and expecting to win easily and be greeted with flowers. (If the war had been handled better this may have been the case. Oh, and Obama wasn’t even in the Senate to vote on something he opposed. Try asking Biden, Clinton and other Democrats who supported the war, why they do?)
2) to selecting Palen for the second most important position in America – and especially considering his own health issue. (As if Obama’s community service, and brief stint as senator put him over the top.)
3) in now wishing to deregulate health industry in the same way the banking industry was deregulated! (with better oversight deregulation is actually something that still has oversight, don’t be parced by words.)
4) in thinking the fundamentals of America is strong. (You think we are headed for damnation? That is unfortunate. Your faith in America is weak. We correct, reform, refine and recover, it’s that simple.)
4) in multiple flip-flopping while the American crisis of economy failure was taking place. (And your candidate equivocated with “call me if you need me.” That’s leadership 101.)
5) in having an adulterous relationship – and as his wife was laying sick! (You got me there, you’re right, and McCain has been remorseful about that, but it’s still no excuse. Although I find it ironic the loose left suddenly considers infidelity, or a teen being pregnant suddenly repugnant.)
6) in selecting Gramm as his primary financial advisor. (He cannot control what one man says, but Gramm is right, we are a bunch of whiners who are losing their teeth to fight, etc.)
7) in selecting a whole group of lobbyist as his campaign advisors – then claiming that he will fight lobbying in Washington if elected. (The mirror reflects its image. Look at your own candidate. He has two advisors who have profitetd by a corrupt Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. I won’t bother talking about the Democratic involvement in that.)
8) advocating excessive financial deregulation – and still believe in it.
9) Keating5 participation (He’s been exonerated by a DEmocratically led committee, including former White House counsel to Clinton, Bob Bennett.)
Have a nice day!

Posted by: vaeducator | October 6, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

McSame/Fallin you both are no going to take us down the same path in the next four years. Its only the foolish that will agree to what your champaign is doing now. Forgetting about the ISSUES to attact characters. If Palin is perfect let her be investageted in Alaska. Maybe she will wink and get away, but McCain can not he has agree with the Bush’s administration 90% or more times on everthing. Obama is the man of change for my generation mCSame and Falling are not. Palin prophetic man forgot to bewitch her to be VP of this nation.

Posted by: Kathleen | October 6, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Obama will end up on the short end of these attacks.
McCain was cleared of all charges with Keating; Democrat John Glenn was given a slap on the wrist; three other Democrats were found guilty. The Keating 5 scandal formed McCain’s resolve to stay squeaky clean throughout the rest of his Senate career.
This opens the door for a full-out assault on Obama regarding ACORN. Go get ‘em!

Posted by: marylou | October 6, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

JR:
Obama sat on a board with Ayers and worked closely with him and he launched his political career at Ayers’s house. He got a sweet position on this foundation board (that by the way accomplished nothing after 50 mil) despite having no experience…through Ayers. It’s relevant. He hasn’t apologized and beaten himself up for Ayers as McCain has for Keating, who was largely exonerated, not admonished. Obama just lies and says that he barely knows the guy, which is ridiculous. Also the “I was only eight years old” argument is absurd.
What if someone spent time with say, a former member of the KKK who had murdered someone 40 years ago…”I wasn’t even born when he was blowing up churches, how would I even know about that?”
BTW the other Keating “4″ were democrats, right?
Becky–your comment does not make sense, please read facts for a change instead of learning sound bite chants.
Mike–is that a question? I have manipulated nothing if you actually study what happened with Keating, instead of just repeating what others tell you.

Posted by: Wade | October 6, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

There is so much history to John McCain and if this the direction that his campaign wants to go, the gloves are off.

Posted by: kent | October 6, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

It’s about time that someone ANYONE has the “Guts” to bring Obama’s relationships to the American People!!! Why have we waited so long? Obama’s character and judgement have EVERYTHING to do with this Presidential race and election. I can’t believe that we would actually consider putting someone in the White House who has ties to these types of “Radicals” including Reverand Wright!
WAKE UP PEOPLE! This man IS NOT who he claims to be and I pray that someone makes him address the facts and this issue in particular in front of a huge American audience soon!

Posted by: A Barr | October 6, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Kathleen More liberal BS!!!

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

HOW SWEET IT IS!!!
Go get ‘em Barack, two can play at this game McNasty!!!
How sweet is it going to be when they release the findings of Palins TROOPERGATE SCANDAL on this Friday the 10th!!!
McCain has had an ARMY of dirty trick lawyers in Alaska for a month trying to stop the investigation, but too bad for Republicans it isn’t working!!!
Why is the McCain campaign trying so hard to stop Palin’s investigation, if there is NOTHING to hide???

Posted by: Davis | October 6, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

McCAIN’S ANSWER TO THE KEATING FIVE??
I AM NOT A CROOK!!
NIXON’S ANSWER TO WATERGATE??
I AM NOT A CROOK!!

Posted by: Davis | October 6, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

“He said… she said” charges and counter charges. The issue is character and one’s own record. Let any of the clowns calling him “McShame” have a week in the Hanoi Hilton of the sixties, and we’ll see what they have to say about character. McCain was cleared in Keating and turned to campaign finance reform to make something of value result from it. No repentance from Obama for Ayers, Wright, Rezco or his other misdeeds or poor associations. Typical of his Messianitic elitism. By the way, wsn’t it Clinton’s OMB director, Raines, who took over Fannie Mae and drove it into the ground while pocketing $90M? And BHO’s clan has the gall to talk about Keating’s similarity to the current financial mess.

Posted by: tom beebe | October 6, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Tanya said: “Does Obama have any friends who aren’t. Radicals, felons, anti-American or his wife?”
That’s a good question, Tanya. I’ve wondered too about that. When have any solid citizens from Obama’s past been found or come forward to talk about him? Biographies about read like exaggerated resumes — enhanced job and education information provided by Obama himself. Who is he really?

Posted by: cappamore | October 6, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Jeffrey…well, you do have the subprime housing Mess with Obama’s fingerprints all over it….Which has cost us taxpayers what around a $1 billion now. Thanks Obama..

Posted by: chattyway | October 6, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Obama better not go into this retaliation mode against McCain if his only ammunition is about the Keating scandal.
Obama’s closet is full of scandals in associations with some notorious criminals.
Among whom are Bill Ayers, the co-founder of violent Weatherman Underground Bombings group and Tony Rezko, his financial patron convicted of fraud, attempted bribery and money laundering and the guy who help him buy his mansion in Chicago at some $300,000 below market plus some valuable land space also at bargain price?
Bill Ayer is also a well known community organizer like him. He traveled to Moscow and Havana to train in Terrorist Bombings. The same training camp grounds for the Islamic Muslim Terrorist.
Rezko is from Syria, a country under US sanction for supporting Islamic Muslim Terrorism and radicals.
Obama’s campaign staff also better not open up any subject that will involve Islam, Muslim and Terrorist. These are among Obama’s many vulnerables.

Posted by: Zee P Bee | October 6, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

MCCAIN RUNS HIS CAMPAIGN LIKE HE’LL RUN THIS COUNTRY, INTO THE GROUND! WHAT A FREAKIN’ LOSER!
OBAMA/BIDEN FOR SURE!

Posted by: dvine | October 6, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Subprime crisis——–is largely the democrats fault—but the obamabots just keep trying to smear. Who was taking large sums of money from freddie and Fannie and then running interference as both Bush and McCain warned of the mess coming and try to have laws past to stop them? The dems–shumer, franks, pelosi, reid, obama.

Posted by: chattyway | October 6, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

tom beebe | Oct 6, 2008 2:05:25 PM And wasn’t Raines briefly on Obama’s VP selection committee?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Darkhorse:
I am not referring to the color of your skin….WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE?!!
Darkhorse vs Lighthorse was figurative……….Lighthorse = Obama
Darkhorse = McCain….
In other words: McCain and the GOP policies are in the Dark!!!! Whether on a horse or not, it’s in the Dark!!!

Posted by: shalom | October 6, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

dvine..hun, there has never been a candidate as the same party as the president be elected when the economy is down———but hey, McCain is still within a few points which is amazing. People are scarred, but they still need to use their heads and see Obama for what he is an corrupt marxist who is very capable of making this much worse.

Posted by: chattyway | October 6, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

It is a shame that bloggers on both sides seem more interested in slamming and shamming than in doing any research or learning. Anuyone can say anything. Does that make it true? Duh. Of course not. Can you present your facts and links so we can learn?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Danny:
You are dead wrong that Obama denounced wright or ayers. He followed Wright’s teachings for 20 years. He only had a problem with it when everyone else heard how racially biased it was and he knew he better distance himself.

Posted by: thetruthhurts | October 6, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Obama defense to Ayers——–”we barely knew each other, ignore that Ayers got me on the Woods board or that I held my first political outing in Ayer’s living room—ignore the facts, Change the subject FAST…let’s talk about Keating 5 and ignore that McCain was cleared even by the dems for it.” Don’t talk about Ayers!! Just don’t talk about it.” LOL…Obama

Posted by: chattyway | October 6, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Darkhorse, so you want to talk religion?
I don’t remember Obama saying God spoke to him like Bush claims. I don’t remember seeing any video with him standing on stage with Witch Doctors countering any Witches Spells. I don’t remember Obama saying anything political is “GODS WILL”. We don’t a God in the White House. It is hard enough to choose between a republican and democrat, we would have a heck of a time determining Who’s GOD should be there. Church and State should be seperated and should stay that way.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Texas enough of the witch nonsense….I saw the video too, and the reference to a witch was basically meaningless.

Posted by: chattyway | October 6, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Posted by: texas outlaw | Oct 6, 2008 2:31:43 PM How do you define what “separation of church and state” is?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Palin coming out with the past and present pals of o’bomb’a, excuse me, barack HUSSEIN obama is just part of another plan to prove McCains track record of being the right choice. o’bomb’a took the bait. Watch and see.

Posted by: U.S.For.McCain.Yeah. | October 6, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Chattaway, McCain may have warned about Fannie Mae, but did not get anything done about it. He still voted the wrong way on all the policies that allowed them to do what they did. McSame talks one thing and walks another. Republicans had 8yrs to identify and solve any problems the Dems may have created, but they did nothing but fuel the fire and filled their pockets. Remember these economic problems won’t hurt Bush or Cheney, they will be I quote GW on this ” Filling their Coffers”, while the rest of us are wondering how we are going to fill the fridge.
Bush, Cheney, and McSame all supported and regurgitated the lies over and over and you just ate it up. Now look at the mess we are in, and you want 8yrs of the same failures.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Kathleen If character doesn’t matter, would you like to invite Charles Mansion over to your house?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Does anyone else find it ironic that Obama is using the same old trick that GW Bush used against McCain in 2000. I guess there are some similarities between Bush and Obama after all. Keating 5 is a decades-old incident. McCain was cleared of wrongdoing in 1991 and returned more than $100,000 he received from Keating.

Posted by: Apple Pie | October 6, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

texas outlaw No, not 8, 6 years since Dems had control of the house and Senate.

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Palin’s recent comments atempting to connect Obama with this so called terroist Ayers sounds like an attempt to dig up a dead horse that has been ridden to death and buried a long time ago. Ther was nothing to it when it was used against Obama by Senator Clinton and there is nothing to it now. Obama was an 8 year old child when this so called sixties radical did what ever it was that he did. If Ayers is a terrorist, why is he allowed to run free and is currently teaching our kids at a university in Chicago? Why is it that the American Government is not interested in prosecuting this so called terrorist for the alledged crimes that he commited. Sounds to me like Palin should be worrying about her troopergate problems in Alaska where it seems like her little empire is crumbling.

Posted by: johnnylee | October 6, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

texas outlaw Dems had control the last 2 years. But Repubs did have 6 years to make taxes perm, lift the drilling ban, and take action of the housing mess.

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

texas outlaw – McCain “didn’t get anything done about” Fannie and Freddie because Democrats like Biden opposed McCain’s bill. Check out the bill online at the Senate’s Website. Also, Bush warned Congress about Fannie and Freddie 17 times between 2001 and 2008 – his warnings were ignored. Look it up. You can blame GW Bush for a lot of things, but Fannie/Freddie and the foreclosure mess isn’t one of them.

Posted by: Just another voter | October 6, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Seperating church and state is not making decesions based on your religous beliefs but based on the facts and the will of the American Voter. Government should not tell people what Gods to believe in and the Gods should not tell the political leaders what they should believe in. Bush believed it was Gods will for the US to go into Iraq. Shock and Awe. He can believe that if he wants, but he should not make a decision based on his personal belief.
How well are all the other countries doing that have Religion dominate their government? Lots of bombs and lots of flat bread. People have been killing in the name of God for too long and it needs to stop. Government for the country and Religion for the individual.
That is they way it should be.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

johnnylee – No one is suggesting that Obama had anything to do with the bombing or did anything illegal. The questions are about Obama’s relationship with Ayers while serving as chairman of CAC, which Ayers was president of … they also served on another board together and Obama spoke at an Ayers event and launched his senate campaign from Ayers’ house. Obama has never addressed any of this – just brushed it off. Just like he doesn’t address the work he did for ACORN. McCain has been open about Keatin g5 – why can’t Obama be just as open.

Posted by: Just another voter | October 6, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

texas outlaw Show me were our Great President Bush said it was God’s will for us to attack Iraq. If I am not mistaken we really attacked because of 9/11 and we have not been attacked since because of President Bush’s policies on terrorist.

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

and then you far left liberals want to put someone in office that has ties with Hate America and terrorist.

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Just another voter – yep he did not get the job done. He should have written a better bill. I bet if you check that bill there was more to it then just trying to get some regulation on Phanie Mea, like most bills there was something in there that should not have been. How good could the bill have been since he cliams to not know much about economics? Did he get dumber over the years? I don’t think I would vote for a bill related to economics that was written by someone that claims they don’t know about economics and finance.
McCain will have a democratic congress if he wins? How much do you think he will get done. He says he will reach across party lines and then calls us dems liberals, tax hikers, unpatriotic, in support of big brother. I would rather have a big brother I voted in instead on one that is super rich and no one can touch in a capitolistic state.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

texas outlaw – Separation of church and state does not mean that the president and congress can’t believe in religion and it doesn’t mean they can’t be guided by faith. It means that they can believe anything they want as long as they don’t try to make theirs the religion of the state (such as Church of England in Great Britain). Each of the candidates in this election has strong faith – all of them have been very outspoken about their religion.

Posted by: Another Day | October 6, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

The attack should be on also on Todd and Palin. Because they were a member of the Alaska Independence Party from 1995 to 2000.
The founder of this party Joe Vogler said, I’m an Alaska, not an America, I’ve got no use for America or her damned institution. Alaska must become a separate and independent nation.Damn U.S.
Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP tell ABC NEWS that Palin and her husband Todd even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla.
McCain motto is Country First, Palin AIP party motto is the exact opposite, Alaska First, Alaska Always, Damn U.S.
Why would Palin voluntarily join this man’s political party? I suspect McCain and his aides didn’t know about any of this.Indeed, they couldn’t have vet her. But now that this revelation has come to light now.

Posted by: Glenn | October 6, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Justanothervoter. Obama and anyone else who come into contact with Ayers shoul not have a reason to believe that he is anything other than the college professor that he is. Is Obama supposed to go and check everyone’s background that he has contact with. On the other hand, McCain’s has made so many decisions that has turned out to be poor decisions that it is amazing that people dont see that the man is not fit to govern.

Posted by: johnnylee | October 6, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Lets talk about foreign policy. Obama wants to set a timetable and leave Iraq before we were even done. He still will not admit the surge worked and he wants us to cut the military. This guy will have us eating out 3rd world countries hands with his foriegn policies which brings us to the economics. Where is he going to get his money for his expansion on government to help these other countries. The middle class will get screwed just like the Carter years.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

texas outlaw – Can you tell me the flaws that you found in the bill that would lead you to say it isn’t well written? Because I found it to be very straight-forward. Seems to have been some political posturing to protect Fannie/Freddie that caused it to fail, not the writing, so I’m curious what led you to say it wasn’t well written.

Posted by: Just another voter | October 6, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Just another voter With complete control why didn’t we get perm tax cuts, the oil drilling ban lifted and the laws changed that were responsible for the Fannie&Freddie (et al) mess?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

johnnylee Obama didn’t have to do a background check on Rev. Wright he listened to his sermons for over 20 years.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

He didn’t pay attention in flight school and repeated the mistake of crashing jets…now this?? He obviously has IQ defecit dissorder.

Posted by: DobermanSpencer | October 6, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Darkhorse, you sure we have not been attacked because of George Bushs policies? That’s like saying it hasn’t rained because of GW’s policies. You don’t know either way. I do know that Iraq and 911 had nothing to do with one another. I do know that Bush and all his cronnies lied to get us in Iraq. I know they ousted a CIA agents name in the field to discredit someone that was telling the truth. I know he had people tortured, I know they lied about stopping other attempts to attack us.
All of the claims they have made about attempts have been debunked, yet they still make the claims.
As for Bush and God. I don’t have the exact quote, but it was something to the effect that God let him know that we would not loose many if any troops and that removing Sadam was the right thing to do. It was 8yrs ago.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Gosh, gee-whiz, Sen. McCain, you asked for it. Ya happy now, Senator?

Posted by: DES | October 6, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

McCain has been messing up for over half a century. Maverick is just the prelude to another mess up. The Keating 5 situation has some substance. Allegations against Obama have all been smokescreens to misdirect the public so no actual issues rear their head. Now they renew their vigor after McSames embarrassing tap dance with the bailout issue.

Posted by: Rodger Lemonde | October 6, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

THIS IS SICK Rightwinded media? Have you been reading Heritage Foundation on liberty and freedom?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Rodger Lemonde Can you point me to where I can read about the Keating 5 -McCain substance?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

gomac What about Obama’s study under Saul Alinski?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Just another voter- Clinging on one bill that McSame pushed for. Why are you not talking about all the budgets and bills that Mr. Deregulator did vote for and is still behind that have brought this country to it’s knees?
Let’s not forget how much money this occupation in Iraq is costing. Remember they flat out lied about everything leading up to the occupation.
We should have been in Afganistan and Pakistan. McSame supported the lies and still does. It’s perfectly safe to walk along Bagdad streets with you have 100 soldiers and Black Hawk Helicopter flying above.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

i thin this is crazy you have been making this up happy mcain

Posted by: lay | October 6, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Glenn Is is not the responsibility of a governor to look out for that state? When a coach on the Redskins goes to the Giants, is that coach going to keep doing things for the Redskins? Of course not! Its a new position with new responsibilities. Yup?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

I think Bill Clinton and Biden both want McCain to win but they just can not come out and say it. You liberals are smart, you even have Pelosi on your side and Harry Reid. Those two found each other on findadumbpartner.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

So McCain loves to bring up the past. You know if Michelle Obama was a former drug addict like Cindy McCain we would never hear the end of it?

Posted by: Athena | October 6, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

BlahishBho, Biden is VP because he knows he can help the President. With his wisdom and Obamas ability to lead and Obama’s intelegence they will be able to do a lot to reverse this mess we are in. What can Palin do throw a bake sale? She can pull a couple of workers of the Pipline that is not currently under construction as she claimed in the debate to help move the tables and chairs around. Oh yea she doesn’t need tables for a bake sale, she can sell cakes on ebay to the guy that McSame said bought the plane. They should make a lot of money, since this guy seems to be a real sucker.
Why do republicans not like smart people? They want college flunkies that like to crush beer cans on their head.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

I think you liberals just don’t think Palin looks like anyone else on the currency that is why you don’t like her.

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

I found this earlier and no one responded. I just want to know why we are not hearing more about this and all of Obama’s mentors. You liberals don’t have a clue what you are voting for. Even the Clinton’s won’t campaign for him because they know what he is.
texas outlaw you need to get off Obama’s sack.
Why is the media keeping a lid on this.
Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.

Posted by: Ohio | October 6, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

texas outlaw…I am just stating what Biden said before he was selected as VP. He said Obama does not have the experience and McCain he would love to run with him as his VP. That is not much of an endorsement to Obama no is it.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Ohio I receieved an email of an article written about that and have been waiting for more details (including how did Obama’s Harvard school debt miraculously disappear (based on his own disclosure data). Can youpoint me to where this Obama FEC data is?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Another day, I don’t think their personal faith should sway their decisions. Thier decisions are not for only them they are for ME. They should be considering what I the citizen they are supposed to be representing. They should not be making decesions based on what their religous beliefs are. Like I said before. Believe in the god and relegion you want, but don’t let that effect decisions that affect everyone. Leave Gods out of political decisions and leave politicians out of the churches or other areas of worship. If Bush believes Amedemajad is the antichrist and wants to attack them based on this belief it is a very bad thing. He does have the power as a politician to do this and then make false claims for his reasons for attack like he did in Iraq.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Ohio, I was actually a Hillary supporter. It may seem I am an Obama supporter because I am rebuting these completely baseless idiotic claims by these right wing conservitive liers.
I do not want a very old war mongering president that has supported and still supports the failed policies of the Republican party. I don’t wan’t Joesaphine six pack running things either. By the way, why isn’t the media doing more coverage of the antipatriotic paticipation of Palin and her husband that want Alaska to succeed from this great country. Yeah county first. They wanted thier own country.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

BLAHisBHO And Obama had such a positive influence on Chicago: Body count. In the last six months 292 killed (murdered)
> in Chicago, 221
> killed in Iraq.

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

texas outlaw I agree with Ohio you need to get off Obama’s sack. LOL. He has you not thinking the correct way and going with his lies. Another thing Palin already remarked about the Alaska prolem but of course you far left liberals don’t listen. What has Obama commented on, nothing. He won’t talk about the 20 years with Rev. Wright, Ayers, Retzko, Fannie and Freddie him being the 2nd highest receiver or anything. He will not comment on one thing. What is he hiding????? McCain talked about Keating 5, Palin talked about Alaska. What has Obama talked about. Nothing. His speeches have no substance and he will not talk about his mentors. Wright, Ayers, the polical machine in Ill. Retsko, Fannie/Freddie. He hides and hides. He lies and lies.

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Palin does not have an 80% approval rating now. Also Alaska doesn’t have as many people in it as Austin TX. Executive experiance. GW had executive experianc of the whole state of Texas. He had a dad that was President and another brother that is Gov. What good did that do? She has signed a contract to start the process of starting to apply for the permits to build a pipeline they may or may not be built.
She had all kinds of money coming in from that bridge to nowhere that she was for before she was against it.
She had a another boat load of money coming in from earmarks. The oil and Gas industry has helped Alaska as well. She should have high approval ratings. Texas and Alaska have been doing well since Oil crisis has started. They are the only two states that have. Imagin that. Also don’t men out number women 3 to 1 in Alaska. If I had a choice between an ugly old man and a good looking smooth talker I would pick her to.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

texas outlaw Maybe we should pull out and throw up the white flag in Illinois also???? What do you think??

Posted by: Darkhorse | October 6, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

texas outlaw What is Barack Hussein Obama’s approval rating in Ill. Probably high because no one is working and they know Obama will give them free hand outs from the working class.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

No, John McCain was completely exonerated. He was admonished for not having better judgement, and he acknowledges that, but he was in no way criminally charged or guilty of a single crime, and because of this he went on to write and get passed the McCain/Feingold bill. He took something negative and turned it into a positive. There is nothing questionable about John McCain’s character. I cannot say the same thing about Obama. For starters, explain ACORN, Ayers, WRight, Rezko, and Raines. There is a pattern here of people that have made a bloody fortune due to their friendship with Barack Obama.

Posted by: jdona | October 6, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

texas outlaw Montana & Wyoming are also doing well because of drilling. More states should trying it, especially California before putting their hand out for some money.

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

deanbob Good Point. I think we lost the liberal. I think he realizes he is wrong and can not prove anything we have said is wrong.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Darkhorse, Ohio,
Palin is currently under investagation! She was for before she was against it. She is for transparency except when it comes to her. Her husband did not cooperate either trying to hide under her political wing. Palin and McSame are both liers and continue to repeat the lies after they have been proven false. You two just seem to have a hard time coping with the fact that the American people have seen through the lies of the old man and his conservitive groupie and they are sliding downward real fast. Obama will sweep the swing states and you will have to live with Democratic president for at least 8 more years.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Are you planning to run an article on Mr. Dexter Clark? Do you even know who he is? He is the vice-chairman of the Alaska Independence party. Mr. Clark is on video acknowledging the membership of Sarah and Todd Palin. Gov. Palin did address the March convention of the AIP.
Mr. Clark also describes the United States as “a monster,” and the Alaska Independence Party openly advocates secession from the United States.
This clearly links the Palin’s to a US-hate organization. The REAL issue is that association is not based on sharing time on a Board, or attending church. This association is wholly a political organization, by the way that hates the US and wants secession from it.
We know Todd was a member, we know that Sarah welcomed the AIP at the last convention, and we believe she attended the 1994 convention.
Can you please investigate further so we know who Gov. Sarah Palin really is. SHe hasn’t been vetted like the other three candidates. Thank you

Posted by: Parrothead563 | October 6, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Parrothead can we please find out where Obama is getting his donations. The liberal press don’t investigate anything on Obama.
Why is the media keeping a lid on this.
Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?
It looks as if Senator Obama may have received MORE THAN $200 MILLION in illegal donations including millions overseas campaign donations. Four times during the last three months an FEC Auditor has asked his bosses to start an investigation into Senator Obama’s illegal campaign donations such as this one
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” etc.

Posted by: BLAHisBHO | October 6, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

You don’t get a crack addict off of crack by giving them more crack. You take away the crack. We need to get away from oil and you don’t do that by drilling for more. Tell me hot shots, how much time will it take for America to benifit from drilling starting today?
When the oil comes up where does it go? It won’t go in our tank. It will go to the free world market and we will bid on our own oil. This lye that drilling will relieve our dependance on Arabia is obsurd, but yet the untruth is still being spread like it is going to solve a problem. We need refinaries to make the gas and we just do not have them, and most likely will not. The Oil companies find that it is cheaper and more profitible to have slave labor in arabian countries pump and refine oil.
You guys should know a lot about that seing how your republicans that are for pure capitolism. Why employ an American worker and pay them more money. That would not make business since, it certianly would not be patriotic.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

The only white flag that I have seen is the white flag McSame camp has waved in MI. Now the McSame camp says they never really expected to win MI, they just wanted Obama to spend money there. I wonder how that makes the folks in MI feel? So what other states is McSame just faking in? Like I said earlier, when I whip someone and walk away with them bleeding on the ground, I don’t call that surrender. I am not going to stick around and wait to see if they learned a lesson or not. If they don’t learn from the mistake that is their problem. Iraq has a surplus of money and they have not given us a cent. I feel we have done our part and put the whoop’n on the bad guys there, now it is time for them to take responsiblity for themselves.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Blahisbho. What idiot will do a background check on his pastor? You go to church to fellowship with the membership and to get the good word. Hate the game and not the players…

Posted by: johnnylee | October 6, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

This shouldn’t surprise anyone!
Instead of being a “new kind of candidate” Obama has been even more
dishonest than most politicians!
He’s flipped on everything from campaign
financing to universal healthcare!
His new ad claims that he will not
force anyone to drop their current plan
and support his plan!
He’s claiming to be the voice of moderation between Hillary Clinton’s
force everyone to participate plan and
John McCain’s free market approach!
Nice try, but I’m not buying it!
I wouldn’t buy a used car from this
Charlatan!

Posted by: reaganfan | October 6, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

In effect, Obama is saying that if the McCain campaign doesn’t stop lying about him, then he’ll have to tell the truth about them.

Posted by: billthomson | October 6, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

McCain should be ashamed of himself and so should Palin. Stop lying to the American people and calling it “serving”.
Go Obama Go!!

Posted by: gabby42 | October 6, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

texas outlaw Some Texas drillers and other experts are saying they can be pumping in 3 years from the time their equipment is on site. ANWR is only 72 miles from Prudhoe Bay (and the existing pipeline). There have been no negative effects on wildlife in that area. We DO NEED to develope alternate energy, while we use OIL to make the transition.

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

If McCain/Palin have just one proposal for what they will do for the mess that this country is in, i would sure like to hear it. You get nothing on how they will solve the problems of Americans from McCain/Palin. You only get negative attacks on Obama from them. Will negative attacks on Obama solve America’s problems. The country is disintergrating and all McCain/Palin can do is talk about Obama’s past associations. McCain/Palin please stop the negative attack campaign and tell the American people what you intend to do to help poor Americans feed their familys.

Posted by: johnnylee | October 6, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

johnnylee But it is very difficult for anyone to believe that Obama ‘didn’t hear’ any of the negative that Wright had to say.

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Darkhorse , Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was involved in the Vietnam controversay, so he was on the same charity committee so if I was on the same charity committee with someone who was involved in something 40 years ago I’m a terriost your an idiot. Who’s the North American hater Palin was involved with the AIP and wants to succeed from the USA talk about her being unpatriotic.

Posted by: RJ | October 6, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

deanbob is what Obama heard or didnot hear in his church and what McCain did or didnot do with his involvement with the keating5 gonna solve any of America’s problems today? I think not. We need to hear what they are going to do now to fix this terrible economic situation and other problems that this country is facing. What happened in the past happened and cannot be fixed. They need to concentrate on what they are going to do to help Americans now and in the future…

Posted by: johnnylee | October 6, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

How much energy can we produce from other means in 3 to 10yrs and be on our way out of the dependancy? Just because there is a pipline in Alaska does not mean we are going to get the oil. We will sell it on the market just like everyone else. Yes I am sure you will have all kinds of Oil Tycoons making promises about how fast we can produce oil. Also why do we need to open more fields. We already have plenty of places they have been approved to do it it in. It’s all about how to make more money, not what is best for our country.
Exon still has not stood by it’s commitment for cleaning up the Valdeze spill, yet you’re more then willing to believe what ever they say about drilling.
These guys don’t care about our planet or us. They care about profit.
Exon/Mobil made the most money in 1 quater that was ever made in the history of the free enterpise system mulitiple times in the last few years while the American worker is suffering because of it’s policies and the Bush policies. Don’t ask me to believe anything the oil men say.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

impressed at the speed of the response by the obama camp.I can tell which team has the better leader.

Posted by: Paul L | October 6, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

Although its not as good as the infamous suppose it will have to do…for now. McCain and his entourage opened that door. He deserves everything he gets from this point on. Send his maverick butt back to Arizona on a three-legged Rocky Mountain canary.

Posted by: Tendergroins | October 6, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

I have heard Bush and Cheneys bull for the last 8 years and that does not mean I agree with them them. Hearing something and agreeing with it are two different things. I guess you guys agree with torturing people. You have followed Bush and Cheney all these years. I am sure your you still believe that Bush and Cheney had nothing to do with ousting a CIA agent either. I guess if Bush was gay you would be too. Not that you are not now and that is a problem, it’s just the point your making is about the same.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Mr. McCain is probably one of the “cleanest” candidates we have had.
Obama is enternally questionable and deceitful. Doesn’t even offer any proof of citizenship.
Obominable Obama. SO clear for any thinking person isn’t it? But that is where the problem comes in–real Koolaid drinkers do not read, do not think for themselves, are bone lazy and want to give everything over to the “leader” who always promises the MOON — Jim Jones, Castro, etc. Sadly, we have too many of these people in this country today. What is really troubling is the black shirted youth for Obama…….too close for comfort to the brown shirts of a bygone dictatorship era. Why worry though–nobody is going to do anything, or say anything about it….these far liberals are blind and deaf to it when it involves their chosen one.

Posted by: charles | October 6, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

BLAHisBHO I did before. But when I count all of the reasons not to vote democratic, I am left with 1 practical vote to prevent (what I believe to be) a catastrophe – Republican.

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Reganfan, you could not by a used car from anyone right now because the republican party has screwed everything up with this awesome capitolisic idology that has been set loose the last 8 yrs. Have you not heard that lending has all but stopped. Except for the huge loan we gave all the banks so our country would not go under. Then they complain about that. They would rather we go back to the ages of survival of the fitest and let all the poor and week die off and the rich and strong live on. It is a rediculas antisocial selfish idology. Forcing the rich to help others is not a bad thing. We should not have to do it in the first place, but the fact is they will not do it on their own. They would rather buy a plane or a boat or a 9th house before helping the poor underprivledged.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

I don’t care what McCain/Palin say I’m votin for OBiden ticket. It’s really simple republicans had it for 8 years now the dems got it for at least 4. simple math. and if he does a good job i vote for him again another 4 years.
What’s all the commotion about?

Posted by: setty | October 6, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Mc Cain practically begged Obama to do this. While Obama tried to stay on the economy and the middle class. When Mc Cain saw he couldnt hold his own he decided the economy and the middleclass arent as important as Obama is. He decided his campaign was more important than the bailout bill that he helped kill and cost us all dearly within those days it was in question. He had that same type of outlook when he tried to protect Mr Keating from investigation while his actions cost all back then. He became the Maverick after this incident to cover it up. Now the chickens have come home to roost!

Posted by: Chris | October 6, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

” If you don’t stop lying about my record, I will start telling the truth about yours. ” – Barack Obama
Johnny “Angry Man” McCain and Sarah “The Witch Hunter” Palin have a host of skeletons in their closets.
Bush/Palin/McCain, you just got SERVED!!!

Posted by: ray | October 6, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

johnnylee The associations show repeated poor jugement in people he calls friends. And the denial of knowing their deeds exacerbates the demonstration of poor judgement.

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

Is Obama that desperate that he has to bring something up that McCain was exonerated for. It was said that John Glenn and McCain should have never been added to the list. Now most of you weren’t even born when that happened so quit listening to the Obama machine.

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 6, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

RAY : The Senate Ethics Committee lawyer who investigated McCain already had explained that scandal away — repeatedly. First, I should tell your listeners I’m a registered Democrat, so I’m not on (McCain’s) side of a lot of issues. But I investigated John McCain for a year and a half, at least, when I was special counsel to the Senate Ethics Committee in the Keating Five. … And if there is one thing I am absolutely confident of, it is John McCain is an honest man. I recommended to the Senate Ethics Committee that he be cut out of the case, that there was no evidence against him.”

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

Mc Cain practically begged Obama to bring this stuff up. Since it is all true and relevant to the current saving and loans deregulations that bancrupt us now it shows a window to how Mc cain has handled it in the past. He tried to help cover it up for a price and some vacations from his buddy that cost us almost a billion dolars. His new deregulation of healthcare and many other institutions would kill the economy for good. Mc Cain is in fact the most dangerous candidate in history. All of these false muslim fears and terrorist mumbo jumbo is the same stuff the Republicans have pulled every year. The only difference is the candidate is black this time and they want to try and act as if somehow he is part of that muslim terrorism conspiracy. The only problem with that tactic was it is totally a game that only fools and idiots believe. The majority wont fall for such obvious dummy test tactics.

Posted by: Chris | October 6, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Here is a website that only covers the Keating Five Scandal – it has old newspaper coverage of McCain’s role in the savings and loan disaster:

Posted by: Dean | October 6, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Dean : The Senate Ethics Committee lawyer who investigated McCain already had explained that scandal away — repeatedly. First, I should tell your listeners I’m a registered Democrat, so I’m not on (McCain’s) side of a lot of issues. But I investigated John McCain for a year and a half, at least, when I was special counsel to the Senate Ethics Committee in the Keating Five. … And if there is one thing I am absolutely confident of, it is John McCain is an honest man. I recommended to the Senate Ethics Committee that he be cut out of the case, that there was no evidence against him.”

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

dotheresearch Since Ayers father was CEO of ConEdison, he had mucho money and power!

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!
IF YOU LIKE THIS ECONOMY, YOU’LL LOVE McCAIN’S PLAN FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS!
HE’LL GIVE YOU FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE SAME!

Posted by: rhbate | October 6, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

I predicted all of this mess 8 years ago,when Bush and Company stole the 2000 Election.Since 2004 I’ve been holding my breath.
It will be soooooooo good to breathe
again on November 4th.
I’d say by 11pm, AT BEST!

Posted by: J.C. | October 6, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

dotheresearch Since Ayers father was CEO of ConEdison, he had mucho money and power!
Posted by: deanbob | Oct 6, 2008 6:02:41 PM
_____________________
And your point is?

Posted by: rhbate | October 6, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Deanbob, McSame is a lier. Palin did not sell a plane on ebay at a profit.
He repeated it several times after it was proven false. Obama will not raise the common mans taxes, but McSame has repeated it over and over. I guess when he speaks of raising taxes on the middle class he means those making 5 million a year. That is what McSame said was a middle class income. You know that McSame is trying to make the average American believe that Obama is going to raise their taxes.
He does say that the employers will let people go because the taxes will eat into their profit. Well that is a moral issue with the business owner to deal with. If they want to let people go because they aren’t making “enough” money that says something about their character. Selfish. Americans should be helping one another, not taking advantage of one another. The pure capitolistic society that the Republicans want will leave the poor out. The poor are Americans too. They are just not rich capitolists. Some don’t have money because they share what they get. Many have a lot of money because they don’t share. I root more for the ones that share.
Funny how we forget the simple rules are parents taught us once the money starts coming in.

Posted by: texas outlaw | October 6, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Deanbob Is it possible that you know everything about people that you associate with, not unless you have special access to police data bases. I dont believe that Obama have such access. I do believe that if people look at McCain’s political history, he has had numerous lapses in judgement which would lead any clear minded person to have serious doubt about his ability to lead.

Posted by: johnnylee | October 6, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

I don’t get it, if McCain did nothing wrong, why then did he apologize? Doesn’t sound very Maverick to me. Maybe he should go back and watch reruns of Bart and Brett Maverick and see how a real Maverick would have handled it.

Posted by: Mike S | October 6, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Mike S What is the quote f the apology?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

johnnylee If it was 1 friend, maybe ok. 2 friends, ???. 3 nah,… nah, …., nah. ACORN (convicted in several states). For me, there are too many ‘coincidences’ of too many of his friends. I slam bi-partisanly! As for McCain’s judgment, he seriously misjudged (aka took for granted) the effect on conservatives of his signing the PORK in the BAILOUT bill. NOPORK McCain – yup!

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

texas outlaw What is “Enough money”? If I am making $10/hr and work 40hrs a week, I get $400 for the week. To a homeless person, that’s a fortune, yes?
Would I be selfish not to give the homeless person $10 (not sure what they’d buy)? If you’re like me, you’d say, how much are your bills? So, when you call a business owner selfish, do you know how much they’re taking home?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!
WANT FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE SAME ECONOMY?
IF SO, VOTE McCAIN!

Posted by: rhbate | October 6, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

John McCain openly suffered, learn and grew in leadership from the Keating experience, and he is a better Presidential candidate for it. You wanna talk about it, Sen. Fannie-Payola-Obama with your creepy Pelosi cronies, bring it on! Sen. Obama offered us all so much hope, but he turns out to be just another fast-talking pretty-boy with dangerous connections. John McCain is the REAL one, the REAL change we need.

Posted by: Tien Ren | October 6, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Vote for John McCain!!
John McCain is the one who can come up with solutions to our economic problems.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden are mathematically challenged.
Joe Biden with his history and political science double major in college and Barack Obama’s major in political science give them absoloutely no economic, scientific, quantitative or analytical background to handle the pressing economic and military problems facing our country.
These two mathematically challenged Democrats are supposed to be able to crunch numbers and understand how to cope with our economic and budget crisis. Two people who probably can’t add four numbers together are suppose help solve our economic crisis. Do you know that they offer basic accounting continuing education classes to lawyers because most lawyers do not understand simple accounting. We have had enough mathematically challenged lawyers screw up our country. You at least know that John McCain has the computational and analytic skills to compute fuel loads, cargo weights, wind speeds, and trip distances to keep from running out of gas on missions.
How would you like it, if Joe Biden or Barack Obama would fly your Boeing 777 on your next commercial flight here in the US. Most independent and undecided voters would not rest easy knowing that Biden or Obama can rely on what they learned in their civil procedure class to help you land safely and not run out of jet fuel during the trip. Pilots have proven analytical skills. There is a saying that there are old and bold pilots but no old bold pilots. John McCain has that good judgment and he has the proven analytical skills to be able to tackle our budget problems. Barack Obama and Joe Biden can spend the next four years and take some accounting and economics continuing legal education classes. After four years of academic coursework, then they might be able to throw their hat in the ring.
Given their academic training, a trillion dollars may look the same as a million dollars on a budget spreadsheet.

Posted by: bhcg89 | October 6, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

IT’S THE ECONOMY!
WANT FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE SAME ECONOMY?
IF SO, VOTE McCAIN!

Posted by: rhbate | October 6, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

If you are a McCain supporter, everything piece of propaganda his camp puts out, you will support. If you are an Obama supporter, you will do likewise.
When will some say something that has not already been said?
The most provocative thing I have heard in the last 2 days was said by someone with “rightt” in their ‘call sign’, and it was: “If Obama is a terrorist, then why is Homeland Security not involved.”
Everyone who has left a message on this board has already made up their mind who they will vote for on November 4th!
Do you agree?

Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 6, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

The only reason why you will vote for McCain is because Obama Is Black. McCain only wants to help 5 percent of the people.

Posted by: black in america | October 6, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

bhcg89
You said: “You at least know that John McCain has the computational and analytic skills to compute fuel loads, cargo weights, wind speeds, and trip distances to keep from running out of gas on missions.”
———————
Yep, all thats going to come in pretty handy in the oval office (particularly the wind speeds aspect). I find it interesting in your discussion of book smarts versus military experience that you mention Obama and Biden, but when you state the case of McCain, you fail to make any mention of Palin. Hmmm, could it be that she may run out of gas on one of her missions? I find it hard to believe she can read the gas guage in her car. She’s not going to be very useful for the next president if the two of them are going to have to demonstrate their flying skills as evidence that they know how to manage our economy.

Posted by: cbot2255 | October 6, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

bhcg89
You said: “You at least know that John McCain has the computational and analytic skills to compute fuel loads, cargo weights, wind speeds, and trip distances to keep from running out of gas on missions.”
———————
Yep, all thats going to come in pretty handy in the oval office (particularly the wind speeds aspect). I find it interesting in your discussion of book smarts versus military experience that you mention Obama and Biden, but when you state the case of McCain, you fail to make any mention of Palin. Hmmm, could it be that she may run out of gas on one of her missions? I find it hard to believe she can read the gas guage in her car. She’s not going to be very useful for the next president if the two of them are going to have to demonstrate their flying skills as evidence that they know how to manage our economy.

Posted by: cbot2255 | October 6, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Kenneth W. of Minneapolis I am leaning strongly. But, the BAILOUT pushed me to the edge – of not voting. I don’t believe in Socialism, but I am SOOOOOOOOO disappointed in McCain. I would rather protest with NO VOTE than give it to a 3rd party. Does it sound like MY MIND is made up?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

black in america Clarence Thomas, Condoleza Rice, Colin Powell are great black leaders. Why? Do you hate them because they’re successful?

Posted by: deanbob | October 6, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

*****DeanBob***** It appears that you have indeed made up your mind to “Not Vote.” That is fine, because, if you feel that no-one has earned your vote, then I totally respect you. If anyone’s vote can be woo’ed by fear or slick talk, then they indeed is a prostitute. THESE CANDIDATES SHOULD EARN YOUR VOTE!
Senator Obama has earned mine, and he shall receive it!

Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 6, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Using Keating 5 against McCain. Hmmmm. Where have I heard that before – oh, yeah, Bush did the same thing during the 2000 primaries. How ironic that Obama is using Bush tactics in this election.

Posted by: Sea Shells by the Sea Shore | October 6, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

I’m very sorry for saying “prostitute.” I apologize to all who I offended.
I’m truly sorry.

Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 6, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

TODD PALIN, THE FIRST DUDE IS A TERRORIST. SARAH PALIN THE DENSE LIAR AND IDIOT.
Todd Palin was apart of this Alaskan Independence Party up until 2002. Sarah Palin recorded a video showing Todd being apart of this group this year. During the 1970s, Vogler founded the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP) and Alaskans For Independence. He also claimed to have organized the meeting which led to the formation of the Libertarian Party in Alaska. The AIP and AFI, as Vogler explained, were intended to function as strictly separate entities — AIP primarily to explore whether the 1956 vote by Alaskans authorizing statehood was legal, and AFI primarily to actively pursue secession for Alaska from the United States.
The Alaskan Independence Party quotes Vogler as stating “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”[1] [2]
Todd Palin first registered to vote in 1989. From 1995 to 2002 he was registered to vote as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.[11] In late August 2008, The Politico reported that Palin was registered to vote as an independent (“undeclared”), and had never registered as a Republican.[12]

Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 6, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

Extremely Scary!!!! Extremely Unsettling!!!! And you McCain/Palin supporters may think she is cute when she winks and memorizes lines and you sell her dolls like you are in a ballpark watching a game, but there are Real Enemies of Ours who would not negotiate with an Airhead who knows nothing and would regard her as a JOKE and you voting her in would make you the JOKE also. You would be asking for Danger. Make “Say It Ain’t So Joe” go home. If that does not scare you, nothing will !!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 – Country and Security First !!!!!

Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 6, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

If an airhead like Palin ever met with Puttin and she said I can see you from my house.
He may try and blow her up and say. Now you see me and now you don’t.
You need someone with knowledge, who knows someone other than a 3rd grade class from Alaska and someone who is truly intelligent and not someone who had past criminal charges like McCain or someone who is currently under criminal investigation like Palin and from the looks of this article who also cheated on her taxes, but claims it’s okay because she worked out with the IRS. Maybe she winked at them.
This would be funny, if it weren’t true and Frightening. McCain who doesn’t know when our economy is in trouble and Palin who does know the name one magazine she reads. President and Vice President. I don’t think SO !!!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 Country and Security First !!!!

Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 6, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN – NOT COUNTRY FIRST, NOT AMERICANS FIRST.
DESPERATE, PITIFUL, ANGRY OLD MCCAIN
ABANDONED AMERICA FOR EIGHT YEARS
MCCAIN IS NOW ABANDONING AMERICAN WHEN THEY NEED HIM THE MOST FOR LIES AND SWINGBOAT SMEAR GAMES.
MCCAIN IS HANGING AMERICA OUT TO DRY AND FOCUSING ON LIES
AND SMEARS
MCCAIN IS NOT HELPING AMERICA WITH STRATEGIES AND IDEAS TO HELP BECAUSE HE HAS NONE !!!!
AMERICA’S FINANCIAL ECONOMY IS IN RUIN FROM THE 26 YEARS OF DEREGULATION AND 8 YEARS OF BUSH, 159,000 JOBS LOST FOR THE 9TH STRAIGHT MONTH OF JOB LOSSES, HEALTHCARE COVERAGE IS DOWN,
10,000 FORECLOSURES A DAY, 401K’S ARE DOWN, AND MCCAIN AND
PALIN WANT TO ATTACK OBAMA WITH LIES AND NEGATIVE ADS AND
PERSONAL ATTACKS WHILE AMERICA SUFFERS !!!!!!
AS YOU HOLLAR FOR HELP, MCCAIN IGNORES YOU AND INSTEAD GO FULL FORCE ON SMEARS. MCCAIN DOES NOT CARE ANYTHING ABOUT COUNTRY OR ABOUT ANY OF US.
EIGHT YEARS OF IGNORING AMERICA. ON NOVEMBER 4TH WE WILL IGNORE YOU AND PALIN.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 – WHEN AMERICA FIGHTS BACK.

Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 6, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

BEYOND EMBASSING, MCCAIN IS PATHETIC !!!
First The Savings and Loan and Now Wall Street. No Maverick. Corrupt McCain.
From the Wikipedia. Unlike McCain’s Lies, This is The Truth. Same McCain, Different Failure. Our Country cannot afford McCain/Palin.
The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).
The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. The regulators backed off, to later disastrous consequences.

Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 6, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Todd Palin was apart of this. I did not know.
TODD PALIN, THE FIRST DUDE IS A TERRORIST. SARAH PALIN THE DENSE LIAR AND IDIOT.
Todd Palin was apart of this Alaskan Independence Party up until 2002. Sarah Palin recorded a video showing Todd being apart of this group this year. During the 1970s, Vogler founded the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP) and Alaskans For Independence. He also claimed to have organized the meeting which led to the formation of the Libertarian Party in Alaska. The AIP and AFI, as Vogler explained, were intended to function as strictly separate entities — AIP primarily to explore whether the 1956 vote by Alaskans authorizing statehood was legal, and AFI primarily to actively pursue secession for Alaska from the United States.
The Alaskan Independence Party quotes Vogler as stating “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”[1] [2]
Todd Palin first registered to vote in 1989. From 1995 to 2002 he was registered to vote as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.[11] In late August 2008, The Politico reported that Palin was registered to vote as an independent (“undeclared”), and had never registered as a Republican.[12]

Posted by: Change Agent | October 6, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

McSame is attacking Obama’s character because he has no solutions to offer the American people.
He has completely wrecked his chances by putting Barbie Doll Palin on his ticket. McCain is desperate
and so is fighting dirty now. This is exactly what Bush did to him in 2000. It won’t work this time.
John mccain a true american traitor putting himself first before his own country.
ask american pows they have nothing but having shame and be offended by him while knowing that he was cracked and
gave up his country to communists playing in movie against his own country.
american enemy may want this coward and crook as president but real american heroes not.
true christian and faithful person will be stupid to vote for mccheater who has admitted adultery, since voting for him as same as endorsing adultery.

Posted by: tim | October 6, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

I’d say it’s about time to bring out Sarah Palin’s favorite witch hunter. After all, according to her, he was responsible for her being elected governor, so she should share him with the world. If you haven’t seen him, just google: Palin’s witch hunter.

Posted by: rhbate | October 6, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

McCain was cleared of any wrong doing in relation to the Keating 5 incident twenty years ago. Tony Rezco’s sentencing is being postponed — could it be that he is willing to talk in order to get a lighter sentence? Obama’s ties to him could prove to be more than just boneheaded. I hope Obama is clean on this one, but we just don’t know yet.

Posted by: supermom | October 6, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Obama supporters seem to like insults without substance. Stick to issues people. Insults may lead people to question your facts, if any.
Obama holds the Keating 5 as McCain’s most disgraceful hour? Sorry dude, McCain was exonerated and found to be without wrongdoing in that case. At very worst he could be accused of crossing party lines and being involved with 4 Democrats in the investigation.
Obama is the leftist extremist who is simply dangerous. He is associated with several radicals including Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Wright and others and he has ties to criminals in Chicago. Obama’s political views are off the scale to the left.
McCain has a proven record of working with Democrats in a bipartisan manner. (Not always to my liking) What little record Obama has shows that he is hard core leftist and unwilling to compromise with anyone more conservative than Ted Kennedy.

Posted by: Oonogil | October 6, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Go ahead America and elect McCain/Palin in november. Just remember this: McCain finished near the very bottom of his military academy class and Palin was even worse. She finally got a ba degree in journalism after attenting six different schools in order to obtain a degree which should have taken four years. That confirms that neither of them are very bright. McCain may not have been found guilty in the Keating 5 scandal but he himself admitted that he used very poor judgment in lobbying the congress for Keating to avoid regulating the savings/loan industry. His poor judgment caused Americans billions of dollars. Please take a close look at McCain during this current crisis. His campaign has admitted that they made several mistakes while trying to decide how to handle this economic crisis. Today one of McCain’s top aides stated that the McCain campaign needs to close the door on this economic crisis and move on to something else in order to try and win this election. Does that sound like mcCain has a clue as to what needs to be done to solve this crisis. McCain/Palin never talk about solutions for America many problems. They only use smear tactics to try to make Obama look like he’s the bad guy. If Americans fall for those smear tactics and elect McCain/Palin, please dont complain about the wars he will start and the continued isolation of America from the world community. McCain/Palin stated that they wont sat down and talk to these so called rogue nations but you can believe that the Russians will. Do you want Russian missiles in Cuba again. McCain politics will not work in the 21st century.

Posted by: johnnylee | October 7, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

After watching McCain’s rally on TV, I have compiled a new McCain’s New World Dictionary for someone who may not understand some of the new words. Here are some entries:
Country = Me
Homes (Uncountable noun) : Places that sometime we may forget.
Pork barrel: Something we promise to veto but never do.
Economy (abstract noun): Abstract concept that we should never discuss.
Change: the difference between talk and action.
Deregulation: Something that was in ours favor, but we should not mention.
Personal attack: a tool to use when we are losing.

Posted by: Fun | October 7, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

someone brought up McCain’s ability to calculate win speed and other calculations as proof of his intelligence . ..well . ..he crashed 3 or 4 planes (not in combat) . ..so I’m not sure he does know how to calculate . .any pilot whose father and grandfather were NOT admirals would have found themselves “flying desks” for the remainder of their military career after crashing the first one

Posted by: Melissa | October 7, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

McCain is dying of cancer. He will die in the first year. Palin would be president. She has no knowledge, nor ability nor education. We’ve had 8 years of an ignorant president. It destroyed the country. Why do Republicans want 8 more years of corruption, ignorance and failed policies?
McCAIN IS PATHETIC!

Posted by: Thomas Brooks | October 7, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Palin/McCain have nerve. Palin was banging two guys who hate the USA and want to secede from the Union… And she says Obama is unpatriotic because his daughter goes to school with the child of a 1960′s radical.

Posted by: Thomas Brooks | October 7, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

More entries for New McCain’s New World Dictionary:
Vice President: Someone who is not allowed to talk.
Iraq: A place to burn 10 billions a month.
Maverick: Someone who loves to blame.
Middle class: A class that has no privilege and should be blamed for the economic crisis.
Terrorist: Someone who is dark.
Tax cut: Special privilege for the rich.
Health care: You care for yourself.

Posted by: fun | October 7, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am

Will the Obama cam’pain” also point out that the other 4 out of the keating 5 were democrats?

Posted by: LongT | October 7, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

John, John, John! When you are as old as you are you best not try to dig up stuff from the past. We all have stuff in our closets as the saying goes; but McCain is so old that he doesn’t have a closet to hide it all. HE HAS 12 HOMES!!!

Posted by: McCrazy = GOP Madness | October 7, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am

Vote John McCain!!!!!
Ohio is proud of John Glenn and John McCain both fighter pilots who served their country when their country was at war.
Barack Obama is dumb as a doorknob to raise Keating 5 and criticize John Glenn. You just put Ohio in the Red state column.
The people of Ohio are proud of John Glenn, a former Marine Corp fighter pilot during World War II. John Glenn was awarded the Congressman Medal of Honor and flew aboard the space shuttle at the age of 77. The Barack Obama campaign should stop criticizing an 87 year old war hero John Glenn by raising the Keating 5 scandal that happened over twenty years ago.
For two people who have no military service between them and have never worn the uniform, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have a lot of gaul to criticize an 87 year old war hero and first man in space John Glenn.
It is also pretty stupid to criticize an Ohio native son when Ohio is in play during this election.
This is what Bill Clinton thought about the Keating 5 Scandal involving Senator Dennis DeConcini and 1st man in space and war hero Senator John Glenn and two other Democrats 4 years later.
Senator DeConcini was appointed by President Bill Clinton in February 1995 to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.
Vote for John McCain, he respects veterans especially 87 year old fellow fighter pilots.

Posted by: John McCain supporter | October 7, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

RIDICULOUS. McCain was totally exonerated.
People better take the spin off of Obama’s campaign and think carefully what this country will turn into if he’s elected. The truth is finally being brought out about him. It has nothing to do with desperation. TWO FBI AGENTS came out – one yesterday and one today – to voice their concerns about Obama and Ayres. BE CAREFUL PEOPLE…….and Ayres isn’t the only concern. —
PROSECUTORS SEEK TO DELAY SENTENCING OF TONY REZKO
CHICAGO: Prosecutors seek to delay sentencing for Chicago money man, suggesting felon linked to Barack Obama has secrets to share.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 7, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

John McCain Supporter: “For two people who have no military service between them and have never worn the uniform, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have a lot of gaul to criticize an 87 year old war hero and first man in space John Glenn.”
I had not heard of the John Glenn criticism, so I do not take issue with your defense of Glenn. But, as far as people “not serving” crictizing those who have, you put up with “W” when he attacked McCain in 2000 (who served), Kerry (who served), Gore (who served in a capcity that beat both Cheny and Bush)
so methinks your mock indignation is 8 years too late. Or perhaps just selective outrage.
Once again, letting a spoiled, rich, entitled AWOL brat like George get away with moral failing after failing, but calling into account the very same tactic. It was like when Clinton was looking at impeahment and Speakers Newt and Livingston had to endure the same spotlight of scruntiny for THEIR affairs. Oh yeah, THEN it was foul….
Republicans have double standards. That’s sometimes called “duplicity”. Hell yeah, we want four more years of that.

Posted by: Kilroy | October 7, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Yes, Obama, hang in there. McCain’s character is not the issue. Yours is. You can see ALL of us.

Posted by: newz4i | October 7, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

In case Obama (Mr. Teflon) and his supporters don’t know the meaning of “germane”, which Barry used very early in his campaign for King of the World regarding any discussion by him or his “handlers” regarding McCain and his role in the now-ancient Keating Five matter was that it wasn’t relevant to the campaign for the presidency. Of course, he cries easily as we have witnessed before, so now this ancient tale of woe becomes “relevant” as McCain tries to force out of Barry just who in the hell he is……and where did he come from…….somewhere in Barry’s makeup, there’s an Invisible Man, all stuff of a much more recent vintage…and still unknown.

Posted by: justj joey | October 7, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

People don’t be ignorant. Those of you that voted Bush in office twice want more of the same. I’m starting to think that the McCain supporters are just as uneducated and un-informed as McCain and Sorry Sarah. McCain’s a veteran, so what!! I’m a veteran of the Navy, officer as well, and it doesn’t qualify me by any means. Better yet I’m probably more qualified than the two of them together.
Race is the issue here. Many of you would rather have someone who looks like you that has the educational background of trailer trash than a man that’s a Harvard grad with vision. Grow up and educate yourself.
Barack Hussein Obama “08 & 12″

Posted by: Lawrence | October 7, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Obama is cool!!!

Posted by: angerran | October 7, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Anyone voting for Obama is a fool! He is the slickest con-man to come along in years. Granted he’s smooth as silk, but an empty suit! There’s no way you can read available books that are “for” him, neutral or against him and come away feeling comfortable that Obama is a loyal American with solid American ideals. The problem with the electorate in this country is they love to hear bull-crap! Bill Clinton said it best: “it’s better to lie big than tell the truth small”
I would have been thrilled to vote for a qualified black man. This guy is nothing more than a siding salesman with a silver tongue. Before you call me a racist, check out books and articles about Axelrod, Obamas image maker and manager. You might learn what you need to know before you vote.

Posted by: J. King | October 7, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

J King, so anyone who votes for Obama is a fool huh? I’d make a wager that you voted for Bush, now who exactly is the FOOL??
McCain and Palin are not only an embarrassment to America but to the world as a whole and the sooner people like yourself realize this maybe we can be the nation we ONCE were.
The military, my military in which I served 23 years has been wrecked by this administration, with the help of McCain. What in this republican administration has went well. ANSWER:NOTHING!!!

Posted by: Lawrence | October 7, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Those who would refuse to remember the lessons of the past are condemned to repeat the mistakes. It is not a time for an amateur at the helm. We have been there before.WILL you make the same mistake?For those too young to know or remember. Change for the sake of change is seldom for the better. 1975-76 the U.S. was in turmoil, and people were demanding change. An obscure young man with good credentials(exceptional credentials compared to the aspirants today). 1977, President Carter inherited an economy that was slowly emerging from a recession. After four years of the Carter presidency, both inflation and unemployment were worse than at the time of his inauguration. The annual inflation rate rose from 4.8% in 1976 to 6.8% in 1977, 9% in 1978, 11% in 1979, and hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election. Carter had pledged to eliminate federal deficits, the deficit 1979 $27.7 billion, 1980 was nearly $59 billion. Inflation(11-12 percent), and skyrocketing interest rates(21.5 percent). July 1980, Carter received a favorable rating of only 21% in the Gallup Poll. That was the lowest rating any president, including Richard Nixon at the time of his resignation, had received since polling began in 1936.This not to mention the devastated military preparedness and income tax rates. Do we need to re-live this in 2008-2012

Posted by: AmerVtrn | October 7, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

This no time for an amateur Nor pretty words and rhetoric, even if it makes you feel good. It will not cure the problem.
This is supposed to be an election for president not PR rock star. You are hiring the CEO of Firm USA. Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy?
If you complain about Palin’s experience to be VP candidate where does that leave Obama? She has more real experience than he has. Or is Obama really running as Biden’s VP?

Posted by: AmerVtrn | October 7, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Okay let me see If I understand you correctly John S McCain who was cleared of wrong doing in the Keating five scandal is a reason not to vote for him? He was cleared of wrong doing! But was told he showed poor judgment in this scandal, McCain has never tried to hide from this he learned from it and moved on. So lets take a look at just a small sampling of the Poor Decisions of Mr. Barak H. Obama. Rezko lied about the actual amount of campaign money he received from him took 3 tries to get it right and give back the donations, Rev. Wright a Racist Radical who preached about the evils of America and White America for the 20 years Obama said he was a member. First said he never heard any of these sermons, but later changed his tune and said he had and voiced concern about them? Voiced concern but still attended and lists Rev, Wright as a spiritual advisor and sounding board for new Ideas? It has been reported that Obama attended a sermon during Christmas where the Rev. was preaching another Anti-White sermon and Obama sat nodding his head in agreement? This church published a pro-hamas manifesto and named Louis Farrakhan man of the year. Farrakhan is of the belief as is Rev. Wright that white created the Aids virus to commit genocide against African Americans? Farrakhan is also Anti-Jew. He is friends with Bill Ayres an unrepentant terrorist who was a key member in a group that bombed federal buildings and certain members were linked and convicted to murdering police officers? He say he is not a close friend but he was close enough to launch his State Senate campaign and hold fundraisers at his home. Bill Ayers also hand picked him as chairman of a group he started. Then the recent economic crisis he is connected to Franklin Raines, Johnson who both were CEO’s accused of falsifying records to meet certain bonus levels. He Pushed for years for high Risk sub-prime Loans while a member of “Acorn” a Socialist/Marxist group that also has lawsuits against them in 9 states pertaining to voter fraud. He also took 150,000 from Lehman brothers! He also has links to the Pritzker family of Chicago, the 2001 collapse of sub prime-mortgage lender Superior Bank was an embarrassing failure in a corner of their giant business empire.Billionaire Penny Pritzker helped run Hinsdale, Ill.-based Superior, overseeing her family’s 50% ownership stake. She now serves as Barack Obama’s national campaign-finance chairwoman, which means her banking past could prove to be an embarrassment to her — and perhaps to the campaign. Superior was seized in 2001 and later closed by federal regulators. Government investigators and consumer advocates have contended that Superior engaged in unsound financial activities and predatory lending practices. Ms. Pritzker, a longtime friend and supporter of Sen. Obama, served for a time as Superior’s chairman, and later sat on the board of its holding company. Superior’s failure could still cost the federal deposit insurance fund tens of millions of dollars or more. And hundreds of people whose deposits exceeded federal insurance limits, such as Ms. Sweet, are still out millions of dollars, which will be reduced some by future Pritzker settlement payments. I have not even brought up the fact that Obama made the wrong statement 2 times on the Russia/Georgia crisis before agreeing with McCain and Finally getting it right. And Iran he said Iran is not a serious threat? This is his quote ” “Iran, Cuba, Venezuela? These countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don’t pose any serious threat to us,” he later changes his stance only after Americans said hold on a minute this country is close to creating a nuclear Weapon and you don’t consider them a threat? This man is a Danger to our Economy and our Safety. All of his economic advisors are tied to major collapses and his real opinions on foreign policy just are to put it simply naive and dangerous! Will you really sleep better with a Nuclear Iran because Obama says they pose no threat to us? They only need to fire one to cause the largest death toll this country has ever seen.

Posted by: batesba74 | October 7, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Vote Obama !
McCain McPOW McJoke !

Posted by: philosopherkingtomas | October 7, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

“Those who would refuse to remember the lessons of the past are condemned to repeat the mistakes. It is not a time for an amateur at the helm. We have been there before.WILL you make the same mistake?For those too young to know or remember. Change for the sake of change is seldom for the better.”
We discovered that with Bush. Unfortunately we learned that staying the course sucked, too. So what’s one to do except spout rhetoric? Take each candidate point by point and quit comparing someone today with someone 30 years ago who inherited a post-oil embargo economy before being hit by another. But if you insist on comparing apples and oranges…
Taxation didn’t cause the economic screw up (though the tax hike WAS most unappreciated). Inflation from rising energy costs did (score one for Bush on that, too).
Unemployment came from large plants shutting down and manufacturing cratered. Threw people out of work
in the areas most densely involved in manufacturing. It’s the financial institutions this time. Score one for Bush.
Inflation from rising cost of commodities like sugar took Coca Cola from 25 cents to 50 cents. Food doesn’t count in inflation numbers these days, so no comparison to Bush…but hey, who dropped food from inflation calculations anyway?
If you were alive in that time instead of selectively misreading history, you’d have a better grip on the external factors instead of generically blaming the man who just precided over the mess.
And what that has to do with Obama is beyond me but it’s that kind of muddled thinking that got two terms of George bush.
Carter DID gut HUMINT (Human Intelligence)in the CIA in favor of technology. Bad move. Bush wrecked the armed forces by forcing them to do 4 and 5 tours. Worst move.
Carter DID preside over a botched rescue attmept in Iran. Unfortunate event but the president doesn’t exactly have control over a massive sand storm. Bush got us involved in two wars RIGHT after Rumsfeld said we were abandoning the “two-front war doctrine’. Bush did that and no natural disaster caused it.
so when you campare Carter to Obama, maybe you ought to be looking a little more locally. Change for change sake is seldom good? Dig up Reagan and say that to his face because that’s EXACTLY what he ran on. He beat Carter, your whipping boy…the circle of life!

Posted by: Dexter | October 7, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

You know Barack should be careful since he’s gotten John Glenn to campaign for HIM! And he’s part of the Keating 5! Please! He doesn’t want to talk about his ACORN days or his campaign gifts from Fannie and Freddie or his advisers from those companies from Goldman Sachs, et al.! Bill Ayers wasn’t just a friend! Somehow Obama found the time to write in Ayers’ book! How can Obama say with a straight face that he DIDN’T know about Rev. Wright for 20 years? Or being on two Boards with Bill Ayers and having his 1st campaign fundraiser in his house? or NOT knowing about Tony Rezko even though his law firm Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Galland just HAPPENED to represent Rezko’s company ‘Rezar’? According to the London Times that Rezko’s wife purchased a lot adjoining Obama’s property for full price! Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi born Billionaire gave Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased! Obama met with Auchi several times with Rezko! Where is Brian Ross investigating this stuff? No, he’s investigating Palin buying a tannin bed with her own money! How can ANYONE vote for someone who has shady friends who HATE this country and want to believe Obama will get us out of this mess when HIS friends want the OPPOSITE!

Posted by: justrighttoo | October 7, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Dude, I’m with you about concern over a candidates associations. But I also realize that if you had that much scruntiy on ANY of the former three presidents, you’d never sleep at night.
I’m not saying your concern is misplaced, I’m jsut saying this is a tempest in a teapot compared to what we’ve seen i nthe past 25 years.
But to paint a person’s personal convictions with those of others is just illogical. Afterall, being a Bush supporter, does that make you a draft dodger, AWOL, useless spoiled brat, too? Well does it? Clueless, stubborn, inept, arrogant? Are you jealous of your younger brother? Is oyur younger brother smarter and better lookign than you? Are you a reoovering alcoholic who sniffed Peru up your nose YET…managed to keep that off limits as a campaign issue?
Then get off of the Ayers and Wright bandwagon….but keep a wary eye out for similar behavior.

Posted by: Kilroy | October 7, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Dexter: Thanks for your brilliant assessment of the situation: “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied.” How is that taken out of context? April 2003: “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes three-strike laws and wants them to sing God Bless America. No! No No! God Damn America … for killing innocent people. God **** America for threatening citizens as less than humans. God **** America as long as she tries to act like she is God and supreme.” How is that taken out context? “They will not only attack you if you try to point out what’s happening in white America. U.S. of KKK A.” How is that taken out of Context? And Obama said in his book he used Rev. Wright as a sounding board for his ideas and views? Again how is that taken out of context? Reverse these statements to be Anti-Black America and you would be outraged calling for any official tied to these people to be fired. Was Imus also taken out of Context? he was a radio host and everyone called for his head and wanted to boycott the TV station that aired his show, His views were not the views of the station but somehow the station was held accountable! And as for the financial connection four banks and Obama has economic advisors from all four on his advisory staff and took large campaign contributions from all four and all four were run illegally and collapsed and cost tax payers a lot of money. And we are going to trust this man and these advisors to help our economy? They could not even keep a business out of Financial wrong doing and keep them from collapsing how are they going to lead a country? Pushing high risk Sub-prime loans and lack of oversight lead to this problem and at least on this issue the Republicans and John McCain got it right and said it would be a Economic Disaster if we did not have more regulations and oversight!

Posted by: batesba74 | October 7, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

This is the Obama’s normal statement: “I had NO idea that my staff or cabinet members were doing this illegal action. I didn’t know they would do such a thing or what they believed.” No, Obama you seem to NOT know your friends very well. For such a smart man, he doesn’t try to get to know anything on his friends’ values or what they believe in…which is the destruction of our nation. (Example: Wright, Pflager and Ayers.) Obama, “Look, I didn’t know Kim Jong Ill(sp?) wanted to blow us up! I just wanted to be concerend about fairness and take away your money!”

Posted by: justrighttoo | October 7, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

I urge all voters to GOOGLE Khlaid Al-Mansour’s connection to Obama and then decide whether you can vote for Obama!!

Posted by: virginia | October 7, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

It’s about time. Put in adulterer too!

Posted by: me | October 7, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

Justtooright said: “This is the Obama’s normal statement: “I had NO idea that my staff or cabinet members were doing this illegal action. I didn’t know they would do such a thing or what they believed.” No, Obama you seem to NOT know your friends very well. For such a smart man, he doesn’t try to get to know anything on his friends’ values or what they believe in…which is the destruction of our nation. (Example: Wright, Pflager and Ayers.) Obama, “Look, I didn’t know Kim Jong Ill(sp?) wanted to blow us up! I just wanted to be concerend about fairness and take away your money!”
As far as your post, it’s a good point. I disagree on the conclusion, but at least you made a point based on the topic at hand. So go ahead and blast me. You got a free shot coming for me mistaking you for another poster.

Posted by: Dexter | October 7, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Want the Draft and the total collapse of the United States? Then vote for McCain and Palin: THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE.

Posted by: disgusted | October 7, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Okay, Obama is a lawyer and Biden is a lawyer. Isn’t it the lawyers that messed this whole country up in the first place, including all the ones we have there now in office? That’s the single least trusted profession in the country according to polls for the last 10 years, and yet we have naive people all over the country thinking (it’s a miracle – they are going to tell the truth now?). Just because they say they will do something – DOESN’T mean they will! They get paid high salaries to lie professionally and twist words so you can’t understand what they are saying. Then they deceive people into thinking they sound so intelligent, so they get elected. WOW – That’s really what we need in office right now. What a JOKE! Let’s see a list of how they have ever helped you. But please start by listing the Bill you got from them. They are good at taking your money – just where they belong – in Washington. People wake up!

Posted by: Geo | October 7, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

“I urge all voters to GOOGLE Khlaid Al-Mansour’s connection to Obama and then decide whether you can vote for Obama!!”
I urge you to Google the Saudi Royal family and their connection to the Bush’s, as well as the radical schools that CREATED Osama Bin Laden that they still refuse to shut down in Saudi Arabia…and decide HOW you put this clown in. Twice.

Posted by: Dexter | October 7, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

For all you so-called supporters of McCain, sure you want to continue his policies to include the war. My suggestion is that if you suppport McCain then you should be drafted in the army and sent to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan. Most of you clowns support the war in words only but if there was any possibility that you’d have to go, you’d wuss out.

Posted by: Lawrence | October 7, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Spot on, Lawrence.

Posted by: Kilroy | October 7, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Obama – Ayers link

Posted by: Real Story | October 7, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

AmerVtrn…
You are right! I voted for Bush..twice and he kept our rear ends safe for almost 8 years! I’m not thrilled with Bush. He made plenty mistakes, but Bush is not the point & if you think so you are swallowing Obama camp spin!
For the record! Military re-enlists are higher now than they have ever been in years. (WSJ) If our military is so unhappy why re-enlist? Still this is not the point.
Obama has been “manufactured!” He is a slick product like Coca-Cola, nothing more! You and other good Americans need to read up on David Axelrod, Obamas “image” maker to see how he molded Obama. He is mere smoke & mirrors, my friend!
You may not be thrilled with the McCain/Palin ticket, I’m not either… but they are the best we have in this election & they are certainly better than voting for a closet socialist & a guy who has several known communist and terrorist alliances. I pray to God the truth about Obama is exposed as it “may” open eyes of all who are looking for Camelot.

Posted by: J King | October 7, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

“Military re-enlists are higher now than they have ever been in years. (WSJ) If our military is so unhappy why re-enlist? Still this is not the point.”
I suppose that’s why they’ve been raising the bonuses to re-enlist…all time high, eh? That also explains the “stop-loss’ special forces have been under for about two years now. All time high, eh? Also, the army has failed to reach it’s enlisitment quoto again this year. All…time…high…re-enlistment, eh? and how about that investigation that recruiters are trying to maker their quotas by enlisting “unqualified” recruits, including mentally ill, criminally unqualified and people lacking diplomas.
I think someone might be playing hard and loose with the reality of the military situation.
BTW, I’m still waiting for that all encompassing military endorsement of McCain. so far, they’ve been sitting o nhteir hands for BOTH candidates. we heard more from the military (albiet negatively) regarding Kerry than McCain has garnered.

Posted by: Dexter | October 7, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

I’ve watched all the televised debates so far. As a Midwesterner and first time homeowner, my vote is for Obama. He looks out for the middle class and will help me keep the “American” dream alive and not wonder if foreclosure is on the horizon or where my next “homeless” address will be. Shame on the country if Gov. Palin had to step in and run the country (not Alaska).

Posted by: JDR | October 7, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

“I cant wait, if NOBAMA gets elected to watch the middle class fall on there face because of his tax plan. The country will go into a depression. If Obama wins you all will be in a heep of trouble in the middle class. Serves you right.”
Making a prophesy out of the present. Brilliant. We’re already IN a depression! We’ve been slippng into it for two years. But thanks for sharing…at least we know who you plan to blame all this on.

Posted by: Man in The Yellow Hat | October 7, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

“Race is the issue here. Many of you would rather have someone who looks like you that has the educational background of trailer trash than a man that’s a Harvard grad with vision. Grow up and educate yourself.”
_________
Bunch of bull!
Bush had a terrific college education!
and it got us no where. He was swarmed on by the masses for his charm and chants of change…. just like the curreent bozo!
Frankly, I am tired t i r e d
T I R E D of being classified as a racist because I’m not turned on by
Obama!
I saw and heard snippets of little children sweetly singing about him… and movie scenes of other little children singing about Hitler came to mind.
I hear his voice and immediately position the words “LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR..” in front of whatever follows,
I envision the oval office entrenched in Obama’s questionable compadres….none of whom are black…. and I am alarmed!
I see little in his past that shouts “accomplished”… except, perhaps the pro-vote on partial birth abortions and the decision to let those living babies expelled from a mother’s womb during a botched up surgery…. die without succor….
In Chicago, I see low cost housing development begun under his first senatorship eight or nine years ago…
still unfinished and uninhabitable.
(Acorn?).
I think Obama would not have come as far as he has had he NOT been black.
I know that whoever wins this election will be faced with economic chaos….
I think Obama is a wuss.
Hillary would have been the strongest canadidate…. but
Next best is
McCain!
Not much in the way of glitz…
but much more substance
in the way of GRITZ!

Posted by: klondike kate | October 7, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Go klondike kate!
You are right on! Well said! My problem with this whole election is not all, but most well-intentioned Obama groupies won’t spend the time necessary to really look into this candidates background!
If, however, you corner them with facts, names, places & times…. they reach into the deck and pull the “race card” to shut you down! Guess what? It ain’t working anymore!

Posted by: J King | October 7, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Months ago the Bush Administration was not asking of $700 billion to bail us out of financial crisis caused by deregulation.
Months ago was McCain had not signed his soul over to rightwing smear machine. The same people that said McCain had an illegitimate BLACK child when he ran againt George Bush

Posted by: MrUniteUs | October 11, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Does McCain have an issue with race? Why would you feel so strongly against having Martin Luther King Day? How is that a bad thing?
“John McCain voted against the creation of the holiday to honor King, and later defended Arizona Republican Governor Mecham’s rescinding of the state holiday in honor of King created by his Democratic predecessor. After his opposition grew increasingly untenable, McCain reversed his position,”

Posted by: Todd | October 11, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Looking back I really think that its so sad that there is all of this hate and fighting between the parties. I am not a big political person myself, but I still think that it is sad to see how mad we get at one another and make it personal, when it really shouldn’t be at all.

Posted by: auto insurance phoenix | August 26, 2010, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Thanks for the post! Politics is really starting to wear me out.

Posted by: Tobler Law | September 17, 2010, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

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