Obama Versus Fox News (Part 534)

Don’t criticize the Dear Leader.

So did Bill Burton answer Yes or No to the question: “Did Obama have Indonesian citizenship as a child?”
The senator’s own FightTheSmears website does not address the allegation.
I personally believe this does not negate Obama’s American citizenship or disqualify him from being president. But in the interest of transparency, you’ve got to tell us the basic facts of your life. We know more about Joe the Plumber’s personal history than we do about you!

Correction- Well if there was no NBC, MSNBC, CNN, ABC and CBS…. Obama would be 10 points lower in the polls.

ROFLMAO.
Obama’s disses FoxNews, right wingers scream censorship.
McCain campaign blasts all media and refuse to do any interviews, right wingers cheer.

Concerned in OH: “So now playing Senator Government’s audio of his own words are “false, desperate attacks”.”
No, the simplistic and incorrect out of context interpretation of them is a false, desperate attack. Obama is a Constitutional Law Professor, and by every measure a very good one. It is hardly surprising to find audio of him discussing a complex issue in terms that can’t be properly interpreted in a 30 second sound bite. No one with critical thinking skills has any problem with his comments.
It’s like saying when President Bush said “Bin Laden doesn’t matter” he was going on the record as offering Bin Laden a presidential pardon – a desperate stretch of interpretation patently absurd to anyone not desperately searching for “their” story.

Hm, if every media is as fair as FOX, Obama could below McCain in polls.

We don’t watch much television here in Punkin Center, Missouri. We listened to that McCain fella on the radio and it sounded like there was two birds in that Bush. We is voting for Obama. ………..

Does anyone else find it hilarious that right wingers insult people as koolaid drinkers as they dutifully recite lies they have been told by their media?

All Obama supporters are not koolaid drinkers. Most of the time Biden sounds like he has been adding a little “Irish” to his morning coffee.
Obama whines everytime he has a tough questions. That’s why he stopped doing town hall meetings. And it will be a long while before he walks down “main street” to answer anymore questions.

This is your “liberal media” at work, kids.

Yeah, Obama, ban Fox news…they are full of lies…
You would do a lot better without them!
They are always bothering you with their questioning ways! Why, you might almost call it hatespeech to question hope and change.

Wade,
When has Obama ever talked about banning FoxNews?
BTW, when are Palin or McCain going to be interviewed on MSNBC?

I watch fox and find that most of the time they’ll have a defender of each candidiate on at the same time with each given equal time to express their points of view or defend their candidates stand on issues. And if anyone can find a better interviewer than Chris Wallace I would like to know where they are at. O’Reilly also gave a good interview with him. It was seroius and to the point and to Mr. Obamas credit he did well.
So whats to complain about?

WOW!! Bill Burton of the Obama campaign just totally lost his cool on FOX news now.
He’s such a cry baby and got PWNED!
He was rude, condescending, and totally dodging the questions.
Someone get Bill Burton’s interfview up on u toob ASAP!
WOW! Bill Burton, Joe Biden, and Barack Obama are spoiled brats!

Concerned in OH-that is exactly what he is saying…Can you explain to our bloggers exactly what Obama will do by spreading the wealth, they don’t seem to understand.

“Did Obama have Indonesian citizenship as a child?”
The senator’s own FightTheSmears website does not address the allegation.
I personally believe this does not negate Obama’s American citizenship or disqualify him from being president. But in the interest of transparency, you’ve got to tell us the basic facts of your life. We know more about Joe the Plumber’s personal history than we do about you!
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what DID McCain ‘confess’ to when held prisoner in N Vietnam? Let’s talk about transparency.. what did McCain agree to???

I have read the crap on Fox news, that’s where these parrots get their false information. Drudge and Newsmax are two other ones that are good at giving false info.

Obama supporters are mad because Fox news doesn’t get “shivers up the leg” when they discuss Obama.
Obama rather talk to folks like Oprah — who will cry her eyelashes off when the Messiah speaks.

Concerned in OH
Listen to the entire interview and will get the part where he trashes spreading the wealth. He was criticizing using courts has the primary tool for Civil Rights reform.

The O-man doth protest too much. Do we really want a whiner in the oval office?

gus,
Children cannot legally claim citizenship. My son and Daughter were born in Germany while I was stationed there and their mom is German.
They both have U.S. and German passports and noone has asked them to renounce either. Furthermore, they both could be POTUS.
Ignorance can be fixed.

Well…
We DO know that McCain’s nickname among the other prisoners in Hanoi was “SONGBIRD”..but ALL of the details about what he spilled have not been released.
We do know Ted Stevens was found guilty today on ALL counts. We also know there are strong indicators…that Governor Palin did EXACTLY the same thing.

My God you have to handle Obama with kid gloves or you’re thrown off the bus!
MAN UP!, as “Hillary” said on SNL. This guy is a demi God to the liberal media and has not been looked into. He couldn’t even pass the test to be on the F.B.I. or C.I.A in this country!
Wahhh, Wahhhh, Wahhhh. What a WHINER!
Does anyone other than Barbara West in Florida, who asked Biden the tough questions the other day, have the bal– to do their jobs. THANK GOD FOR FOX, the number one cable news show. I don’t watch ANYTHING but, because I’m so over the liberal media love fest!
NEVER OBAMA!!!!!

Concerned in OH
if you look at the time of the civil rights movement it was a big problem the disparity between Blacks and White primarily due to Unequal segregationist policies. So before you go off talking about things you hardly know about or just repeat what McCain just said do the research.

URGENT
Jake, when will you cover the Stevens story? I especially want to know if Palin/McCain intend to endorse his re-election. You sort of forgot about that sticky point that you promised to keep updating us on. You haven’t said anything about it in the past few weeks. Correct me if I am wrong.
It seems like there is a serious, serious breach of authority and trust taking place among Alaskan GOPers and its very urgent that we have a discussion on that since a member of that circle is planning to run the country.

Thank God someone is reporting from all perspectives and not just the MSM’s perspective. Days after the ACORN fraud was being reported, one of my most liberal friends had NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THEM. That’s because MSM won’t say anything that might hurt Obama.
There is a reason that Fox News is the most watched cable news network and MSNBC the least. O’Reilly wins the ratings war every night….why do you think that is?

Wade,
FoxNews has repeated malicious rumors against Obama time and time again.
I expect partisanship on the personality shows like Hannity & O’Reilly. The same with MSNBC, Keith, Rachel & Matthews are partisans.
But Fox & Friends is probably the worst offenders in telling lies and doing so in a one sided fashion to say nothing of their ticker, their news etc.
Which network reported the bogus flag story post convention?
Which network reported Obama was a muslim educated in a madrassa?
Which network ran with the Ashley Todd hoax?
And as far as the clothes go, Obama, Biden & Hillary pay for their own clothing. Its illegal for campaigns to do such under McCain Feingold. That is why they had to go thru the RNC.

“The wheels are coming off the Obama campaign bus today”
ROFLMAO.
McCain is down 10 pts nationally, losing in the electoral college handily, is running out of money and his campaign has begun an ugly round of finger pointing.
But Obama’s campaign’s wheels are coming off.

Fox News is **** if there was no FOX we wouldnt be in Iraq…
Murdoch was banned from owning TV news stations in Australia because he sold postive coverage for cash…
In the UK he is being investeragted and in the EU he is being ivesteragted for all the same reasons.
News isnt left or right!
Fox news is all from the right!

“O’Reilly wins the ratings war every night.”
O’Reilly lost to both Keith and Rachel just last week.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Fox & Friends is called morning hate in my house!
TRASH TV!

He was criticizing using courts has the primary tool for Civil Rights reform.”
Correct. Because he says the courts didn’t implement wealth redistribution. That’s what he calls the tragedy of the Civil Rights Movement.
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Incorrect he said it was tragedy that they tried to use the courts instead of legislative measures. which was the proper way.

O’Reilly wins the ratings war every night!
HANNA MONTANA RATES HIGHER THE IT AND ALL THE NEWS CHANNELS PUT TOGETHER!

karronna- the vietnam war is a sore spot for our entire nation, you don’t have to be Republican or Democrat you just have to be American!

RYAN “C”
What is all the fuss about
we all knew that the “N.Y.TIMES,NBC
ABC,MSNBC AND CNN are not saying that
Obama is the ONE.He is going to make
CHANGE,right?

Shhhhhhhhh!! Conservatives, let your vote be your voice. Let’s give the liberal elites a surprise they can talk about for the next four years as American patriots go to the polls and elect McCain the next president of the United States. Shhhhhhh! Quietly now. . .don’t bother the screaming liberals . . . just VOTE!
Posted by: KeepingtheFaith | Oct 27, 2008 5:43:27 PM
That’s funny , I don’t know of American patriots that have lied and actied as vile and disgusting as McCain, Palin and their supporters. If that is what an American patriot is, God help this country.

I CANT BELIEVE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW OUR HISTORY!
BLACKS COULD NOT OWN LAND THE WERE COUNTED AS POSESSIONS.
SO DURRING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT SHOULD THE HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO EVEN THE PLIGHT OF THE CHILDREN OF SLAVES… HELL YES!
DOES IT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TAX POLICY TODAY NO!

Some three dozen workers at a telemarketing call center in Indiana walked off the job rather than read an incendiary McCain campaign script attacking Barack Obama, according to two workers at the center and one of their parents.
The call center is called Americall, and it’s located in Hobart, IN.

MM-I disagree, do you know how many Americans lost their lives in vietnam??? Do you even know what the war was about? Do you know which President started it and which one finished it? I have many more if you want to challenge me!

Rezko supposed to be back in court on Oct. 28….any coverage on that. Why is it Rezko is never covered when he is being indicted?

In the interview, Obama went into extensive detail to explain why the courts should not get into that business of ‘redistributing’ wealth. Obama’s point — and what he called a tragedy — was that legal victories in the Civil Rights led too many people to rely on the courts to change society for the better

Meanwhile, Jake is defending Obama for Obama’s whining about something he said in 2001 that reinforces what he said in 2008.
Jake – Biden banned another TV station for asking him tough questions. Where is your coverage, er, defense, of that?

“Rezko supposed to be back in court on Oct. 28….any coverage on that. Why is it Rezko is never covered when he is being indicted”
Rezko indcitment & conviction were vcovered extensively. His original sentencing was postponed but I am sure it will be covered when it happens.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Ryan C (the actual real one
He has been court forever. I have learn that we must vet are real estate agents.

Does anyone know if the Ethics Board in Alaska is going to present their findings before the election?

I think that the only way to learn the truth about anything is to watch Fox. If you notice they always have two sides to a story one of the people is usually democrat and the other republican and then you can make up your own mind. Esp. O’Reilly, he does stories about each party. American People aren’t dumb, just them them the true facts and let us make up our own mind. We only get it from Fox.

Well, whaddya know. Palestra has caught even more Senator Government volunteers casting fraudulent ballots in OH.
No wonder his lawyers are trying to silence them.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Oct 27, 2008 5:51:08 PM
Obviously you don’t read the voter fraud cases unless it is Obama. The Republicans have their little sneaky bs going on. YPM and Sproul and Assoc.
( AKA Lincoln Strategy). So don’t act like the Republicans are clean as a whistley.

And that, more or less sums up the state of American politics. Obama complains about what is as close to a state run “news” organization in the free world, as mainly staffed by ex-Republican heavy weights- most notably Roger Ailes- while the McCain campaign tilts at real news outlets like The New York Times, when that is they’re not using information turned up by it against their running mate. This does not mean the NYT editorial page is not liberal, or even that their reporting is not afflicted by bias, just that there are differences between news organizations and propaganda outlets, and Fox News is undeniably the latter, and a blight on our nation’s democracy. The rest of the Murdoch empire is not much better, (the NY Post’s taking up Murdoch’s personal grievances should send a shiver down anyone’s spine), but Fox News well and truly takes the cake.

“American People aren’t dumb, just them them the true facts and let us make up our own mind. We only get it from Fox.”
According to a media study, viewers who only watched FoxNews were 4 times as likely to believe things that were demonstrably untrue vs viewers who only watched other networks.

The 2001 tape isn’t the only tape being released this week.
Then you’ll really see Obama having a fit.

Are you trying to redefine “redistribution” so you can mentally accept what he’s claiming?
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nope – try actually listening to the tape and not just for the soundbites that suit your agenda.

Ryan c
35%? In Alaska? Are you sure? I know her national approval rating is that low.
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The Alaska daliy news did the poll they note that the poll was conducted during the time she was being questioned over her actions regarding the firing and all that stuff!

Why does anyone care about Palin at this time.Obama’s team is just wining and this will be what we can expect for the next 8 years.
Thanks to Fox they have helped put our some good news about McCain. ABC,CBS,MSNBC AND CNN have been covering Obama as he has already won the election and is the only person in the world who can get America out of this mess. Bull sh t. The RNC ran with what they had and now we will all have to suffer down the road to socialism. By the way I did vote for Clinton this time around and Bill in the 90s. Also Carter and Kennedy. Obama is not likely to get my vote.

This is ridiculous claim by John McCain.
Wasn’t even what Barack Obama was referring to. End of discussion.
I have noticed Fox News does report news and opinions to the right. I spoke with my sister from Nebraska since Fox is the most watched station for news there. She is Republican, but she too feels they report more favorably to right.
Smile – I have watched them to evaluate their station. H-mmm they do psychologically use suggestive reporting methods. And is more to right wing – Republican. I have noticed they also push stories for McCain.

It is absolute beyond any reason for so many people to be always trying to tell what Obama meant in lieu of what he said. The man is well educated so is it impossible for him to actually say what he means. By the way if you did not live during the civil rights movement do not comment. What you read or hear is not always correct. I was in Atlanta working when King was assassinated.I am a Caucasian American who is grateful to have been around when he was starting to make great progress in the country.

“redistributive change was not meant as in wealth but in Civil liberities, education, etc.”
Huh? That doesn’t make any sense. How do you “redistribute” civil liberties? Or education?
Is he taking civil liberties from one party and giving to another? Is he taking education from one person and giving that education to another?
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There was separate but equal laws across much of the country, Separate education, social services, welfare Etc. money was not distributed equally. It is these kinds of things that are being discussed not mention jobs, equal employment, equal pay, equal opportunity, the list goes on.

Thank God for FOX news, and their anchors who are bravely trying to tell us everything, as opposed to ABC, NBC, CNN etc, who suppress information negative to Obama, and hype and focus on anything and everything negative to McCain. We would like to know more about Obama’s friends, history, ideas, and you have done a pitiful job of giving us that information, and a beautiful job of suppressing it for him, all the while focusing on clothes that Sarah Palin did not even buy and other petty fluff issues… This network has not done its job, has not acted ethically, and is increasingly showing us how irrelevant you really are, just shills…

Ryan, we can go back and forth on this, but you didn’t address most of my points…Hillary got hers free…from a designer…my point is it would be a non-issue if it was a democrat. What about Biden’s son, the fraudulent hedge fund manager? Ah, there I go again.
I am getting tired of this…I am going to vote and see what happens. Right now, looks like Obama, but you never know. *shrug*
They both are not perfect, but the fairness doctrine alone is a concern for me about Obama. I think he is sincere and seems like he genuinely believes he is doing right. However, he turns a blind eye to shenanigans of anyone who mouths “power to the people..” or says they are doing something for the poor (se Rezko) and that’s why I won’t vote for him.
Also, it just seems like you could have a picture of Obama sitting on Fidel’s lap and Obama supporters would excuse it. They would be like “how dare you insinuate that he is a socialist!” Not that he has, but this is just to illustrate the level of devotion to the guy…he is a European style, left-leaning social democrat type politician…that’s fine, but a lot of people don’t want that (a lot do)
…the guy can just do nothing wrong, for some, while McCain has been vilified for everything from his smile to his inability to move his arms…ageism has been okay…he has been called a warmonger to McHitler…I am disgusted by that, just as I am disgusted by ANY negative intimation about Obama’s race…
I will say it again. Both are honorable candidates for president, and we probably could have had the most respectful campaign in history, had the press and each candidate’s supporters been more even-handed in coverage and support. My two cents, not objective, not provable, just my feeling.

I have heard many say, and this counts the McCain campaign, that the Democrats have a majority in Congress.
Congress has two houses, only in one do the Demovrats have the majority and a slight one at that.
The senate is 49 to 49. How is that a majority?
It is not. It is just another of the bald faced lies these nazi wannabes, that call themselves Americans, make up.
Unless you count the secret mind ray Nancy Pelosi has, which I am sure is coming soon to a Fox news station near you, which subverts ‘good’ nazi americans into voting democrat.
Why don’t all you McCain supporters go to Iraq and fight bush’s personal war?
Oh, you are too elitist, er good for that.
Can’t even add. Must be that secret mind ray.

“Why don’t all you McCain supporters go to Iraq and fight bush’s personal war?”
Don’t worry. After Obama redistributes the taxes from the military budget to the social engineering projects, they are coming here to fight.
Be happy.

Wow, Jake — this is a really unbiased report here — and yes, I’m being sarcastic. This entire report gives only Obama’s side. You repeat all his talking points — without giving any of the play-by-play between a Fox reporter (sorry — I don’t watch Fox so I don’t know her name) and Bill Burton. Burton’s head was about to explode on the small clip I saw.
Obama may fault Fox for costing him 2 ro 3 points in the polls, but I fault all the rest of the media outlets. Without them, it would be HRC on the Dem side, not this nimrod.

“Okay, let’s assume they are both bad. Doesn’t that make McCain AND Biden corrupt losers?”
Not really. But if you want to think of it that way, I can’t stop you.
Of course McCain is running for Prez(vs Biden as VP) and you have expressed reservations about Palin so I am unsure of where you are going with that.

“Lanny Davis, another Hillary supporter bashing Obama with his ties to Wright and Ayers but as soon as Hillary was dropped, he had nothing but nice things to say about Obama”
I despise Lanny Davis so I agree his flip flopping on support was craven and shows his hypocrisy.
Which brings me to Rush Limbaugh who was railing against McCain all thru the primaries only to later give his full throated support to mcCain.

Ryan,
Anyway, my point that you refuse to see with Biden/Palin is disparate levels of scrutiny.

Bill O’Reilly is the wimpiest of them all. All bullies for ratings are eventually found out. I’m glad Obama stood up to that right-wing idiot for ratings!
Obama/Biden 08!

when all of those obama media cbs msnbc cnn etc. are in the tank for obama & are reporting missleading & false news no one even cares suddenly someone reports Obama’s own words you get all frustrated, what’s the matter? you can’t look the truth in the eyes that you ppl try to nominate & convert the US to communisim??

I will hand it to Fox ….. they arent in the gutter, like some other stations or the New York Times that did that horrible story on Cindy McCain. It wasnt even relevant. Fox news, at least, is above board and in my opinion, honorable.

BHO…………a socialist that favors partial birth abortions, wants to ‘talk’ to our enemies, spread the wealth and solve global poverty (while his brother lives in a hut……..great reality tv, but very sad for America.

“I am convinced that if there were no Fox News, I might be two or three points higher in the polls.”
If there were no mainstream news with a liberal bias, controlling information and spinning things his way, where would he be in the polls? Here’s another piece on the bias: “Politico Editor Says Most Reporters are Left of Center,” Townhall).
“If I were watching Fox News, I wouldn’t vote for me, right? Because the way I’m portrayed 24/7 is as a freak! I am the latte-sipping, New York Times-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effete, politically correct, arrogant liberal. Who wants somebody like that?”
If anyone’s coverage is all image and not about the facts and the issues, it’s the mainstream media’s.
“I guess the point I’m making is that there is an entire industry now, an entire apparatus, designed to perpetuate this cultural schism, and it’s powerful.”
I imagine he’s talking about conservative media and bloggers. I’m not surprised with his view of it, though I am disappointed since it does a great service for our democracy. Obama is ignoring the fact that conservative media is demanded from conservative citizens, and that in addition to the liberal-leaning mainstream media, there is also a sizeable “alternative” “progressive” or liberal media. From the conservative media, I know I now hear about so many stories, independently verifiable stories, of importance to conservatives that I’d never hear about from the mainstream press whose liberalism heavily influences what stories and facts it either pushes or suppresses. I also have access to opinion writing that doesn’t assume that liberalism is reality. What I find objectionable, though, is his talking about “an entire industry” or “apparatus” which is “designed to perpetuate this cultural schism.” Liberalism, which dominates the mainstream media, isn’t the worldview of many people, and to say that conservative media, which merely reflects that fact, is divisive by its very existence, is to suggest it’s illegitimate and shouldn’t exist. If the cultural divide is the problem, liberals then should just for the sake of “unity” give up what they believe, but I don’t believe that’s not who Obama is saying should simply give up what they believe here. Our country was formed on the reality that people have radically different views and that there would be about as much “divide” as “unity.” The idea that there should be only one party (one worldview) and one media of that worldview isn’t democratic – where the worldviews argue the issues – it’s totalitarian. One side can gain an advantage in power by winning the debates, but that’s not the same as saying the other worldview shouldn’t exist because it’s nothing but divisiveness. And the idea that the conservative viewpoint is unnecessary rather than part of the diversity the founders recognized there to be, is Marxist/communist/socialist (and keep in mind that “socialist” isn’t completely distinct from communist – remember the “Union of Soviet Socialist Republics?). And for those who might wonder what the big deal is about those ideas, Joseph Farah has a good piece on it: “What’s wrong with socialism?” WorldNetDaily).

Excellent blog! Very interesting themes. I will regularly read it.