By Kate Barrett

Oct 16, 2008 10:04am

Obama Warns Supporters to Not Get ‘Cocky’

At a fundraiser at Manhattan’s Metropolitan Club this morning, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., admonished his supporters to not be overconfident heading into the homestretch.

"For those of you who are feeling giddy or cocky or think this is all set," Obama said, "I just have two words for you: New Hampshire."

Polls indicated Obama would win the Granite State primary in January, but he lost to Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.

"I’ve been in these positions before when we were favored and the press starts getting carried away and we end up getting spanked," Obama said. "That’s another good lesson that Hillary Clinton taught me."

More than 100 people, each contributing $30,800, listened to Obama’s warnings.

"What we want to do in these 19 days is show the same passion for Americans who are struggling out there, show the same dedication, show the same stick-to-it-ness, show the same steadiness that’s going to be required in guiding this country past some very difficult times," he said.

Obama this morning heads to the state where he got "spanked," New Hampshire, for an event in Londonderry today.

- jpt

User Comments

So, does that mean the curtain measuring should be put off until November 5?

Posted by: Deep Release | October 16, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

It not over tell the last vote is counted.
GO OBAMA/BIDEN!!
Great job last night.

Posted by: beck | October 16, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Obama did great last night, as always.

Posted by: Kathy | October 16, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

meanwhile, Obama is booking Grant Park for his “victory” party. All the makings of an ugly riot when he loses.

Posted by: geevill | October 16, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

It’s hard not.

Posted by: Vanessa | October 16, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Deep Release, I think OBama knows he will need to walk in with a wheelbarrow and shovel rather than a tape measure.

Posted by: ricky | October 16, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Hope over fear
Truth over lies!
Every Obama supporter has to get to the polls and vote!!!
No Chances NOT THIS TIME!
Obama 08

Posted by: Mike NC | October 16, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

All true… But I’d much rather be us than them at this point!!

Posted by: dem in chicago | October 16, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

He says he’s not Bush, but McCain sure did remind me of him with the eye blinking, rolling, stammering deer in the headlights stuff. With Palin further exerting her claim that Obama pals around with terrorists and we should fear him, they seem like Bush/Cheney all over again.
Re: Joe the Plumber – do you think people realize that the extra 3% is on income OVER 250k, so if you make $250,100 you pay an extra 3 bucks, and if you make $500,000 you pay an extra $7500? I know a number of people in that category, and believe me, they enjoy advantages currently that I can only dream of. The last time someone asked me if I wanted in on a google IPO was, well, never. I’d love to be able to deduct my country club membership as a business expense, but I don’t have a membership. I do own a small business.
Now if I was a REALLY rich Wall Street hedge fund manager, I could pay only 15% taxes, because my income would be classified as capital gains. Doesn’t McCain want to decrease their taxes?
As Warren Buffet says, it makes no sense that his secretary, making 30k a year, pays the same social security as the 2nd richest person on the world. I watched a forum with Buffet and Bill Gates a year or so ago, they said that if they wanted they could structure their income such that they wouldn’t pay any taxes at all.
Middle class has been getting screwed. Time to even things up….

Posted by: Steve from NH | October 16, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Obama is taking nothing for granted, That is classy, meak and smart.

Posted by: cindyct | October 16, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

geevil…I guess you are presuming that Obama will loose…
Mmmmmmm, interesting. If he looses we are in BIG doodoo….
I hope you have a BIG bankroll.

Posted by: formerhillary | October 16, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

sen. clinton was my, cand. and i have stuck with her. one of the reasons i voted for obama is because i trust sen. clinton. i voted yesterday, and i live in a mostly republican city, and obama signs are all over the place, these are people who wanted huck, or thompson, and now they are all blue, go figure.
all obama needs to do, is just what he has been doing, talking calmly to the people telling them what he will do to help the country.
what i want to see now, is how JOHN MCCAIN and palin are going to change their game, for the fifth or sixth time.
it will be interesting to see if he and palin get up at a rally and continue to talk about ayers, and such.
after all of this time, it has come down to mccain has three weeks to tell the american people what he is going to do for this country going forward. not looking back at what he did.
it is funny to me, that mccain and palin talking about “there you go joe, looking back”-but mccain has asked us to look back forty years to his mil. record, and bill ayers,
i choose to look back only eight years, and see who mccain was so closely associated with. bush. cheney. and the whole bush crew.
bush messed up mccains chance of becoming president before, and he has messed up his chance to become president now.

Posted by: world | October 16, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Although I’m ready for Obama as soon as his birth certificate-suspicion becomes cleared, no one has told me he has legal right to be the U.S. President as yet. So, I must stay hod.

Posted by: Ted | October 16, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

I know one thing, if Obama wins – African American can no longer make any statement about not being given EQUAL opportunity. That Argument is now dead!!!! If Obama loses – well remember the riots of 1992? I hope he wins, Barack Obama, I really do – maybe now this whole mess since Reconstruction can be put to rest.

Posted by: NYC-Independent1664 | October 16, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

world
Well said…

Posted by: Mike NC | October 16, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Joe Biden is going home to golf.

Posted by: geevill | October 16, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Clearly John McCain won the debate.
If voters would actually go and really check Obama’s record, our country just CANNOT AFFORD Obama.
John McCain might be rough around the edges, but he talks straight to the issues and makes the most sense. No doubt about it.
Democrats for McCain

Posted by: NielPA | October 16, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Ted
John McCain hasnt released his Birth Cert. and he isnt a natural born citizen his legal team are in court in three states fighting,,,
So please give it a rest!!

Posted by: Mike NC | October 16, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

“Although I’m ready for Obama as soon as his birth certificate-suspicion becomes cleared, no one has told me he has legal right to be the U.S. President as yet. So, I must stay hod.”
Don’t believe everything in your inbox. Snopes already debunked that garbage a long time ago.

Posted by: Reason | October 16, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Yes Obama we have to Worry about the Republicans Stealing the Election again they are already starting in Ohio!

Posted by: Angie | October 16, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

We all get it. It is not over yet,
until it is over.

Posted by: FM | October 16, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

They BOTH SUCK!!!

Posted by: hmn | October 16, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Hope over fear
Truth over lies!
Every Obama supporter has to get to the polls and vote!!!
No Chances NOT THIS TIME!
Obama 08
=============================
Nothing else need be said.
Bravo Mike.

Posted by: AutoCadSkills | October 16, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

He lied on national network to the American citizens with a smile on his face:
“MCCAIN: Well, again, while you were on the board of the Woods Foundation, you and Mr. Ayers, together, you sent $230,000 to ACORN. So — and you launched your political campaign in Mr. Ayers’ living room.
OBAMA: That’s absolutely not true.
MCCAIN: And the facts are facts and records are records.
OBAMA: And that’s not the facts.”
FACTS: Obama paid ACORN over $800,000 this summer for GOTV efforts. Obama did launch his career at a party hosted by Ayers at Ayer’s house, which is such a matter of public record. I am so tired of hearing about Ayer’s did the despicable things when I was 8 years old. He worked closely with him for years and years just recently. Now it has been 40 year’s since Charlie Manson’s group brutally stabbed and murdered Sharon Tate and other people that were rich (they didn’t spread the wealth). I guess Obama would think it is okay to pal around with Charlie Manson, work closely with this gentleman, and have dinner with this gentleman as Manson did these crimes when Obama was only 8 years old. Yes, Manson went to prison, and Ayers was acquitted because of a technicality but out of Ayer’s mouth is absolutely NO repentance and in fact he says he should have down more despicable and horrific bombings. YOU ARE KNOWN BY THE COMPANY YOU KEEP and Ayers in just one of dozens and dozens of questionable characters in Obama’s life.

Posted by: Anne | October 16, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

clearly, john mccain won the debate?
yes, clear as mud.

Posted by: world | October 16, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

I am addressing the comments from our Party’s leader and next President of the United States, not anyone or anything Negative. Yes, SIR!! I have already voted, but continue to talk to people about voting and early voting. I have my son’s absentee ballot (he is away in college in another city right now) and I am taking it to him personally and dropping it in the mail this weekend. I will stand firm, contribute, and talk to people about voting until Sen. Obama is declared the winner. And please everybody do so also!! OBAMA 2008!!

Posted by: SD | October 16, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

You have got to be joking. Don’t get cocky? Now that is a classy, powerful statement spoken with true humility. LOL

Posted by: msa123 | October 16, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Obama is a LIAR
And for those Americans who fall for it, you deserve exactly what you get. For the mom who is encouraging her son to vote Obama, YOU deserve exactly what you get.
Obama was as clear as glass last night, He’s a Liar who will turn America into a Socialist country.
However, I believe the American people will NOT do it.

Posted by: Brenda | October 16, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Obama did great last night.
HOLD STEADY OBAMA. THE RACE IS ALMOST OVER!

Posted by: Liz | October 16, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

msa123,
no that is just plain speak.

Posted by: world | October 16, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

McCain blew the socks off of Obama. Obama was on defense 75% or more of the time. And he couldn’t/didn’t answer questions about his pymts of 832k to ACORN because he couldn’t. Too bad we don’t have $ pools going on how the media would report it. CNN polled 40% dems and 30% repubs and their results showed that Obama won the debate. DUH! How stupid do they think we are. Apparently Obama’s followers are because they believe it’s so. LOL What a joke. Oh well, even if Obama gets in he’ll get nowhere with his plans, just like all the others before him. If Hillary couldn’t get a national healthplan going, he surely wont be able to with his glowing background and experience. He’s a freaking attorney with 2 yrs as jr senator. Never run anything in his life except a few little community projects. He’s also creating class warfare. We’ll see how far he gets with that. So, honestly I’m not that worried if he gets in. He’s just a sock puppet for the govt to make everyone feel like there’s hope.

Posted by: msa123 | October 16, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

hillary will help his get national health.
from now on when you folks talk about acorn, don’t forget to mention john mccain ties to that organization.

Posted by: world | October 16, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Absolutely right. We can’t afford to get cocky or complacent. True, McCain took a good swing last night but he missed. His snide remarks and sneers still got the better of him and he looks flustered.
He has a good strong base, though, and they WILL get out and vote.
We know Obama is the best man for the job, so we have to come out just as strong! Don’t take anything for granted.

Posted by: JDL | October 16, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Question thats on my mind is why is Joe Wurzelbacher (Joe the Plumber) not registered to vote in Ohio ?
HMMM ?
Member of the NRA but not registered to vote ?? (In Ohio at least)
Strange…..

Posted by: Mike NC | October 16, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

2006 John McCain to ACORN:
“You Are What Makes America Special”

Posted by: Mike NC | October 16, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

msa123: “He’s a freaking attorney with 2 yrs as jr senator.”
Um, you seem to have left out state senator for 7 years (representing more people than live in the whole state of Alaska, with a number of self-written bills passed and on the law books today). And Harvard graduate, after working his way up by merit from lessor schools (although he still amassed enough debt that it wasn’t until his big breakthrough/book a few years ago that he paid off his last student loan). And teacher of constitutional law for over a decade at at the University of Chicago Law School, where he was offered tenure.
Making the argument that he has no experience suggests that you are lying or incredibly ignorant of reality.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Barak Obama to ACORN:
$832,000

Posted by: msa123 | October 16, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

“I know one thing, if Obama wins – African American can no longer make any statement about not being given EQUAL opportunity. That Argument is now dead!!!!”
Sorry, but one has nothing to do with the other. True, America has given him the opportunity to run for office, but Barack, if indeed he wins this election, will be the President for ALL Americans–not just Black Americans. He’s had his back to the wall and has gotten stronger to reach his dream. Black Americans still have mountains to climb and will continue to have to struggle to achieve what many people take for granted.

Posted by: JDL | October 16, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Mike NC: Who cares if Joe the Plumber is a planted prop? The issue he raises is perfectly legitimate. Obama IS going to raise taxes on people who earn more than $250k per year (take home, in the pocket, profit). Joe will still buy the business, he will still be in the top 5% of small business owners in the country, and he will still employ people. Good for him.
The entire point of a progressive tax system is to, indeed, “spread the wealth.” And the reason every first world nation on the planet “spreads the wealth” is because over a millennia of human societies have shown it is the best way to maintain a stable, prosperous society (equal stability can be had through religion or nationalism, but prosperity suffers). McCain is arguing a soundbite sucked up by ignorant partisans. A cute story, but it is hollow of any proven truth or real persuasive power.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Obama is right.
He won the debate once again against a rude, snarky, condescending man whose best days and best ideas are far behind him.
But every Obama supporter needs to vote, encourage others to vote, and make whatever contributions of money and volunteer work that they can to ensure that we don’t have George Bush III in the White House and Abuse-of-Power Barbie a hearbeat away.

Posted by: Alex | October 16, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

jhw: “state senator for 7 years (representing more people than live in the whole state of Alaska, with a number of self-written bills passed and on the law books today). And Harvard graduate, after working his way up by merit from lessor schools (although he still amassed enough debt that it wasn’t until his big breakthrough/book a few years ago that he paid off his last student loan). And teacher of constitutional law for over a decade at at the University of Chicago Law School, where he was offered tenure.”
WOW. So impressive the work he’s done for our country. If he was such a great state senator, why is the IL education system so poor? I know a public school teacher there and the system is bad, bad. You are a fool to believe that Ayers, Axelrod, Rezko, Daly, and the rest haven’t propelled Obama from oblivion to where he is today. And the CEOS of Fannie Mae and the like are pretty intelligent and smart too, wouldn’t you agree? How does that make them better than someone else again?

Posted by: msa123 | October 16, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

msa123:”WOW. So impressive the work he’s done for our country. ”
To be honest, most of the work he’s done was for the people of IL. The bill requiring videotaping of interrogations and confessions in serious crime cases was really impressive though – originally opposed by all and promised with a veto, it is now law and praised for both protecting citizen rights AND giving prosecutors potent evidence when the guilty are on trial. That really is a case of a smart guy identifying a real need and serving the people.
” If he was such a great state senator, why is the IL education system so poor?”
If John McCain is worthy of being president, why is the county in a mess after he’s been a senator for TWENTY-SIX YEARS? And for six of the last eight his party held complete control of the government, yet by your logic he’s to blame for the economy, the bumbling around in Iraq for the first half decade of the war, the ‘response’ to Katrina, 9/11, etc…

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

We go it Obama! Statement clear. Yes Sir! Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 16, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Too late, Barack. They are already measuring the drapes.

Posted by: len | October 16, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

jh: The last 2 yrs the Dems had control of the government. If the last hands on it are to blame, that would be the Dems. And before that, it was 8 years of Clinton. And he left Bush a 9/11 present… got everybody all giddy and happy with rolling in the dough… and the party had to crash sometime. Whatever. I hope Obama gets in because nothing will change. Nothing.

Posted by: msa123 | October 16, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

It was clear that Obama won the debate all three times, no matter who you are voting for, you should be fair and admit that. and the sighs,the faces, and the body language that came from McCain was absolutely RIDICULOUS!!! I am ready for change, not 4 or 8 more years of the same old thing.

Posted by: lakisha | October 16, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

It looks like Obama is going to win the presidency. I hope he knows what to do if (when) he becomes president.

Posted by: NAS | October 16, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Obama lied about his ties to ACORN. Obama’s legal work was his only professional tie to the group, but he also spoke at volunteer training sessions and his campaign had a contract with a group that worked with ACORN. They gave the group $800,000.
And he never answer McCain’s question about why Obama lied about accepting Campaign financing.
And Obama — he is a liar and opportunist depending who he has to please at the moment.

Posted by: susie | October 16, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Neocons crack me up. The Bush family, to this day, has business ties with the Bin Ladin family. Carlyle Group. Look it up. But neocons think that it’s ok.
McCain is not a bad guy and wouldn’t be a bad president. If neocons were so smart they would have nominated him in 2000. Well, history is now thiers to deny and distort.
George W was given teh benefit of the doubt by the people. Now the people just feel totally used and abused but George W.

Posted by: thomas | October 16, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

OBAMA ’08 WORK HARD FOR VICTORY
VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE

Posted by: Herb Gray | October 16, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

“It was clear that Obama won the debate all three times…the sighs,the faces, and the body language”
Are you voting for President or the winner on Bravo’s Runway?
We need a leader. Not a model.

Posted by: len | October 16, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Neather one of the candidates really do much for me but I wonder why the McCain bunch seams so hostile to Obama? What do they think he will do? They must be more concerned about people making 250,000 than I would of thought. I can see why the Republicans are viewed as the ones who are only concerned about the rich. McCain was more worried about a guy that might buy a plumbing business than he was about the mess that Bush has left. Talk about being out of touch.

Posted by: Neil | October 16, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

I’m hoping that Obama wins because he is for the middle class people – and I happen to be one of them. We need help with this economy. The bottom line is GO VOTE on Nov 4th… It’s not over yet, but Obama has my vote.

Posted by: cleveland, oh | October 16, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Obama was calm, spoke intelligently as usual. Did anyone notice that McCain appeared to forget Mrs. Obama’s name? He said something about “You and I, Cindy and (pause) your wife” ….. He obviously forgot Michele’s name! I’m a healthy 63 and I certainly think 72 is too old to be president.

Posted by: KathyD | October 16, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

“Question thats on my mind is why is Joe Wurzelbacher (Joe the Plumber) not registered to vote in Ohio ?”
He is, according to Politica. His middle name is Joseph so you would have to know his first name in order to look it up.
Obama fans now have to find something else to trash about the guy. I heard they are going through his garbage cans as we speak.

Posted by: mak | October 16, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

msa123: ” I hope Obama gets in because nothing will change. Nothing.”
This is nonsense. Things will change regardless of whether McCain or Obama get in. They won’t change a huge amount because, griping to the contrary, in the US we have a government that keeps out of our lives to a very large extent compared to the rest of the world. But either candidate is a far better executive than President Bush and that will show in how the Administration is run. (The only way things could get worse is if McCain is elected and dies on Nov 5th – judging by her record, Palin is an even less competent executive than President Bush.)

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

mak: “Obama fans now have to find something else to trash about the guy.”
I’m an Obama fan and see no reason to trash the guy. He’s in the top 5% of earners in the country (1% in the world) and his taxes are going to get pushed up to the levels they were under Clinton – still incredibly low compared to any other first world nation. I think Obama’s reasonable and rational response, which did not diminish, insult, or lie to the guy, was quite reasonable. Obama is talking about raising his own taxes too.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

I make over $250K per year. A family member of mine, who was a McCain supporter and makes well over $350K per year, has now switched her vote to Barack Obama. She doesn’t mind paying more taxes, and neither do I. Why did she switch? Because throughout this campaign McCain has shown a temperament and judgment that is unbefitting the presidency. He showed it in spades last night, and she switched her vote.

Posted by: serious53 | October 16, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

The Obama camp did not give $800,000.00 to the ACORN organization. On a piece that aired on PBS last night the $800,000.00 was give to a separate entity who distributed funds among numerous voter registration organizations and ACORN received around $80,000.00 —check the facts people, enable yourself to know the true story

Posted by: Check the facts | October 16, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

How can you think Obama is for the middle class? He promises 95% of people a tax cut yet 40% of those don’t pay taxes. That’s called welfare.
Raising taxes on small businesses that make 250,000 or more, they will not hire workers and if offered healthcare as a benefit,employees will probably have to contribute. Raising capital gains taxes might not hurt you and me because we don’t have the money to invest anyway but for those that do, they will not invest in the stock market which will just put us back to where we are now. You think Obama’s healthcare plan is better? He offers the same plan that he and McCain enjoy. He promises an affordable rate. I’d like to know what he considers an affordable rate. On a different note, in this world we live in today, how can Obama even think of cutting defense spending?

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 16, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

To checkthefacts
ACORN consists of many different entities. Any which way you cut it, it’s still ACORN even though they are named differently.

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 16, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Look past the eloqent talk and you will see the truth.

Posted by: WAM | October 16, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Republicans need to vote for Obama so they can peacefully reform their party, and stay away from Obama’s FBI and new Congressional Hearings. Land is cheap in Argentina, as a great deal of corruption is going to come to light. Patagonia is a place where loot can be hidden and ranches bought. Argentina won’t cry for them.

Posted by: Bonzai | October 16, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Linda/Michigan: “Raising taxes on small businesses that make 250,000 or more, they will not hire workers”
Just like 1986 when Reagan raised the capital gains tax to the level Obama proposes? Or the Clinton years when taxes were higher?
Do you even KNOW how historically low taxes have been pushed by the deficit-growing Republican government? Taxes are required to run a first world nation and, despite ‘fiscal conservatives’ delusions, we can’t just charge it forever. This governing on deficit is unsustainable and has to end, and a “across the board freeze” doesn’t even come close to addressing it. Get back to the Reagan and Clinton era tax levels and maybe there is something to whine about.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

You know what irks me is when I hear a young person say that they are voting for Obama because he reminds them of John Kennedy. Please, what do you know about Kennedy? He would be rolling over in his grave if he knew that his brother and daughter are supporting Obama. John Kennedy, who fought in WW11
knows what it means to fight those that want to destroy America. His brother Joe,died while serving his country against the likes of Hitler. While President, Kennedy stood up to Castro, risking war because he knew what a dictator with Russia’s backing could do. Yet some think that John Kennedy would back Obama,if he were alive, a man with ties to Ayers, Wright and Farrakhan? Please.

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 16, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Ha. Warning the Obama supporters not get too cocky comes ten months too late. Most Obama supporters have been swelled with pride since the onset of his campaign. Certain groups, fraternities, and sororities have been trained to barely speak if you do not support Obama. You are ostracized if you dare speak against him. Yes, Obama fans have already decided that he has WON and they are buying their dancing shoes for the inauguration parties planned to be held nationwide. Therefore, the message “don’t get too cocky” comes far too late.

Posted by: anotherperspective1 | October 16, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL CONFUSED, ARE GOPers REALLY THIS IGNORANT..
OBAMA WILL CUT 95% OF “”WORKING”" AMERICANS..YOUR (SO CALLED 40% DON’T PAY TAXES)..YOUR SPEAKIN OF THE SELF EMPLOYED AND UMEMPLOYED…

Posted by: victorr | October 16, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Linda/Michigan ” On a different note, in this world we live in today, how can Obama even think of cutting defense spending? ”
While you seem to enjoy living in fear, many of us look at a $60 billion dollar stealth fighter program and wonder what the HELL it’s for. How’s that going to stop a single terrorist? Or a rouge Russian nuke? Going to send a half-billion dollar nuclear sub after Osama? Do you think it cows Russia more than our other hundred nuclear subs?
Beyond the bumperstickers, do you have any conception of the reality of defense spending? John McCain does, and to his credit thinks it is disgraceful and would also fight to cut it.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

McCain said “Joe the plumber” faced “much higher taxes” under Obama’s tax plan and would pay a fine under Obama’s health care plan if he failed to provide coverage for his workers. But Ohio plumber Joe Wurzelbacher would pay higher taxes only if the business he says he wants to buy puts his income over $200,000 a year, and his small business would be exempt from Obama’s requirement to provide coverage for workers.

Posted by: victorr | October 16, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Im voting for McCain because he reminds me of Bush. Bush is doing the Lords work and Palin will continue that great tradition of instilling MORALS back into this country.

Posted by: Esther_L | October 16, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

McCain was a freath of bresh air last night. (snicker)

Posted by: DobermanSpencer | October 16, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Linda/Michigan, I own a small nursery business and I don’t make $250,000 a year; neither do most of my fellow small nursery owners. I sure could use the tax breaks, especially the $3,000 tax credit that Obama proposes for each new employee I put on my payroll. Do you seriously think an American citizen making $250,000 will pull his funds out of America simply because he has to pay an additional 3% ($7,500) in taxes? I have a few friends/business associates who make over $1 million and the additional 3% is but a drop in the bucket for them, and in the grand scheme of things, they say they have no problem paying a little more to help their country. Now, that’s patriotic! It’s the struggling middle class, people like me, that need help the most right now. When my business grows to over $250,000 and things get easier financially, I will be more than happy to pay my fair share to help those who come behind me. You, as a caring, responsible American, should adopt the same attitude.

Posted by: annaloh | October 16, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Linda/Michigan: “You know what irks me is when I hear a young person say that they are voting for Obama because he reminds them of John Kennedy. Please, what do you know about Kennedy?”
Remember Obama’s strongest support comes from the college educated, our best and brightest. And Kennedy is covered quite well in the education curriculum.
“Please, what do you know about Kennedy? He would be rolling over in his grave if he knew that his brother and daughter are supporting Obama.”
Do you even know what you’re saying? You are honestly proclaiming that as a blind Republican shill YOU are the one that KNOWS what Kennedy would think. Not his own brother, not his own daughter, but YOU KNOW BETTER. The arrogance is astounding. He would be rolling in his grave indeed.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Hey, my posts were removed. Is there an Obama supporter censoring this?

Posted by: Chip | October 16, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

For all of you who think Obama is for the middle class and against the elite rich. Think again.
Most employees currently pay a % of their income towards their healthcare benefit along with their employer’s supplement. Each year, our cost of these premiums have been going up even in the 4 billion surplus of exxon mobil. So, guess what will happen when Obama says to 250k and higher profit companies, they will say, Okay, we’ll give you 10% of our profits for the uninsured, but now they will raise their employee’s rates toward the healthcare premium. That means the guy working in the mailroom to the guy working as a managing director you will lose more of your pay. We all will get screwed and the rich will just stay rich. Great Plan!!!

Posted by: maggie | October 16, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

McCain is such a liar! He is stealing Obama’s words and acting like he is the one that came up with the words!

Posted by: Lorene | October 16, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

“Spreading the wealth” is the most idiotic idea since the pet rock. Intelligent people call that “socialism.” Penalize those who have the creativity for success? The only way Obama is going to make his economic plan work is with severe cuts to an already neutered military. Does America want to become a thrid world country? I don’t. So many of you see a cool and calm Obama but pay NO attention to what he says. He speaks well, therefore he is qualified? Very foolish. As Obama plans for his party, our enemies plan for something a little different

Posted by: The Dave | October 16, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

I’m for Obama he has a plan for the middle class people.Obama is who everyone needs to vote for.Vote for Obama and you will have healthcare,jobs,education.With MCcain as president the middle class won’t have anythangbut four more years of hard times.

Posted by: Tina WALLACE | October 16, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Oh yes Tina, the government will take care of all your wants and needs. No need to look for your own job, health care, get a better education to find another job, etc. Just let Obama give you everything you need to survive.

Posted by: Hugh | October 16, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Tina, Obama’s plan cannot work. It is impossible without cutting the military down to a Canadian level.

Posted by: The Dave | October 16, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

The Dave:”"Spreading the wealth” is the most idiotic idea since the pet rock. Intelligent people call that “socialism.”"
Spreading the wealth, ie a progressive income tax structure, is the basis of every single free first world nation on the planet. And every free prosperous society in the known history of man. Do you a single example, anywhere, ever, of a free nation that succeeded without a progressive taxation system to “spread the wealth”? EVER? (Hint: Feudal Britain is does not meet the definition of free.)
More evidence that the Republican party is not longer a conservative party, but rather one that actively embraces ignorance.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Now Lorene, You know that’s not true.

Posted by: The Dave | October 16, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Okay, did anyone listen to howard stern
this is the best, glad we have informed people voting. Maybe there should be an idiot test before you vote, suchas, do you know who Obama’s vp pick is??
http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3
This is scary. This is our america and how sad it is. I don’t care if you are a mccain or obama supporter, if you don’t know the vp of the person you are voting for, then do us all a favor and stay home.

Posted by: maggie | October 16, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Jake- check it out
Something funny is going on with poll.
They aren’t reflecting what the ground game appears to be.
confirmation comes today:
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/david_rasbold/2008/oct/16/conversations-with-an-internal-pollster-for-o/

Posted by: atlmom | October 16, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

The Dave: “Tina, Obama’s plan cannot work. It is impossible without cutting the military down to a Canadian level.”
Could you elaborate on what exactly you think “Obama’s plan” is? Perhaps compare it to the Clinton era taxation levels (which had the government running a surplus in 2000).

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

No jhw539, It is socialism. Take from those who perform and give to those who don’t. Simple as that.

Posted by: The Dave | October 16, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

To jhw589
The difference then was jobs were more plentiful. More people were working because outsourcing was never heard of. People were more able to pay a higher tax.
I do not defend Reagan, personally I thought times were rough. I did well during the Clinton years but like I said times are different. I am a lifelong democrat of 35 years and have seen different adminstrations, but what has changed today from yesterday is businesses will pass their costs onto you or freeze hiring or layoff people just to keep their profit margin. There was a time when supply and demand meant if the demand was large the prices were lower because you made your profit based on quantity. Today it’s just the opposite. In this economy the little guy cannot afford anymore.

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 16, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Brenda said “Obama is a liar.”
Brenda, tell me something, what has he lied about? Give me something specific. Don’t give me relationships with Ayers or contributions to ACORN. I’m sure I could pull your profile and find you’ve given money that was “questionably” spent by a group (you sound Republican so finding history of the RNC “questionably” spending money would take me all of 30 seconds). No, I don’t want associations, I want you to show me something like “Obama promised to cut my taxes, or Obama promised me his vote and it didn’t happen.
For all of you wanting to use very strong words like Hate, and Kill, and Terrorist, you need to step back and shut your pie hole.
The problem with our society is uninformed loud mouths like yourself who vote strictly on party lines. I’ve got an idea, why don’t you join us Independents who listen to all parties and make an educated decision before we vote. Forget the bashing of character because honey, character left the United States a long time ago. For every bad thing you can say about one candidate, I can equal it (or top it) with the other.
Republicans/Democrats – for once in your life, forget about party loyalty, review the candidate’s proposed plan, and decide which one make the most sense to you.
Right now, as part of that 95% demographic known as the Middle and Lower Class, Obama is the only one selling me. There’s still time for McCain to change my mind, but based on what I’ve seen so far, he’s fighting an uphill battle with me.
Oh, in case you missed it, check out the article on McCain’s service to his country dating back to his military days in Rolling Stone this week. Someone’s a liar. It’s either Rolling Stone or McCain.
VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE, NOT A PARTY!!!

Posted by: NO PARTY LINES | October 16, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

If I need brain surgery, I’m not going to a 1st year resident. If I need my car worked on, I’m not going to a fly-by-night mechanic. If I am going to save money, then I’m going to make sure it’s insured. And when I vote for President of the UNITED STATES, I want someone with A LITTLE experience. And I don’t really care how these people are perceived, as long as they can get the job done! Experience does matter. Fasten up folks! As if the flight isn’t wild enough now… WAKE UP or make sure you know where the oxygen bags are located, if Obama is elected. Remember that the floatation devices are under your rump! And try to sit toward the wings or rear of the plane.
McCain Supporter

Posted by: tj | October 16, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

The surplus, my friend jhw539, can be atributed to Clint’s destruction of our military.

Posted by: The Dave | October 16, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

The Dave: “No jhw539, It is socialism. Take from those who perform and give to those who don’t. Simple as that.”
Could you answer my question – has there ever been, now or in the history of mankind, a free prosperous nation that does not meet your personal definition of socialism? You might be able to find some little oil soaked hamlet or middle ages nation state built on gold… I’m just curious how utterly detached from reality your bumpersticker dream is.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CANNOT HANDLE ANY MORE TAXES! BARACK OBAMA IS PLAYING HIS SUPPORTERS FOR FOOLS…AND THE SO-CALLED MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS HELPING HIM.
ALL THOSE PROGRAMS THAT OBAMA WANTS – WHERE DO YOU THINK HE’S GETTING THE MONEY? FROM US! – ALL HIS PROGRAMS ARE “SOCIALIST PROGRAMS”. THAT IS NOT…IS NOT..THE AMERICAN WAY.
“SPREADING THE WEALTH” – MEANS HE IS TAKING FROM US – AND GIVING OUR MONEY TO OTHERS – EVEN IF THEY DON’T PAY THEIR OWN TAXES!!! THE 95% TAX RELIEF HE TALKS ABOUT – IS VERY DISTORTED. DON’T BELIEVE HIM. HE WILL RUIN OUR COUNTRY.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

I still find myself wishing that Obama had taken the invitation to tell us how he really feels about Sarah Palin. McCain should be ashamed of his pick, and Obama should have told him so.

Posted by: billthomson | October 16, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

“S” Corporations will find themselves in a bad position if Obama is elected.
The very people who betrayed us, put us in this econonmical situation – which we have to pay back – because of the corruption in Washington and Walstreet -are the people you will be supporting and putting trust in them to spend YOUR MONEY IN MORE TAXES!!
BARNEY FRANK, NANCY PELOSI, BARACK OBAMA, JOHN KERRY, CHRIS DODD, REID – are those people ahead of the bunch!

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Esther L, are you kidding me? You are voting McCain because he reminds you of Bush – doing the Lord’s work? Where do you get that from? And Palin has MORALS? Need I remind you that she was pregnant when she got married and now her teenage daughter is pregnant by a high school drop out. Morals, indeed.

Posted by: Cynda P. | October 16, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Kiss your good private insurance good bye with Obama.
If your employer gets the choice between cheap/mediocre tax payer funded ObamaCare OR 12-15k private insurance which one do you think they will pick?

Posted by: Michael | October 16, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

yap obama is most likely to take it. black or white register and vote. we need a change! lets clear the bush.

Posted by: Imaka Isaac | October 16, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

GO OBAMA!!!! I’m not going for crooked politic. McCain lost, FACE IT.

Posted by: Kayla | October 16, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

PEOPLE ARE REPORTING TO NEWS TALK RADIO – THAT THEIR CREDIT CARDS ARE BEING CHARGED “UNAUTHORIZED DONATIONS” –BY THE “OBAMA CAMPAIGN” —- CHECK YOUR CREDIT CARDS CAREFULLY!!! — REPORT ANY FRAUD TO YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY TO REMOVE THE UNAUTHORIZED CHARGE.
THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE ABOUT OBAMA..JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE – HOW MUCH MORE STUFF DO YOU NEED TO CONVICE YOU?

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Obama is endorsed by Louis farrakan and many radical islamists around the world. Are Americans so stupid that they would vote for a man who has the support of many people who hate America? Have you bought into the garbage that Obama really cares about the “Middle Class?” He cares about giving to those who have not earned anything so he can create a massive voter base like Chavez is doing in Venezuela. Do you really want America to head into ultra soicialism or even Marxism. You must take a serious look at this very deceiving man who would inflict great harm on average American’s freedoms and lives!!

Posted by: rockychance | October 16, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

My mom wants change. Obama ’08

Posted by: Kayla/Student | October 16, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Tweedle dee and Tweedle “dumb”, McCain is the latter…

Posted by: moe | October 16, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Linda/Michigan, you contend that JFK would “roll over in his grave” if he knew that his people were voting with Obama because of the purported Ayres, Wright and Farrakhan connections. You’re assuming that JFK had never associated with any questionable characters in his life … that’s naive. McCain has Charles Keating, Gordon Liddy, Timmons and others; even his own campaign manager Davis is a Fannie Mae lobbyist accepting $15,000 a month as recent as August this yeear. The Dems don’t harp on that because they understand that everyone, particularly politicians, will cross paths with undesirables. That doesn’t mean they are in bed with them. Obama has denounced Ayers’ anti-American acts, cut ties with Wright and never “palled around” with Farrakhan. If you hold these associations against Obama despite the fact, are you saying you are pure as snow yourself and has never been around anyone unsavory characters in your life? As I’ve said of McCain, so I say to you … those who live in glass houses …

Posted by: annaloh | October 16, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

To jhw539
Read previous post. I’m a democrat and always have been. I was alive when Kennedy was President and didn’t need to read about him from a history book.
As for your college educated, brightest and best, watch John Stossel for 20/20 showing you the future of America. They didn’t even know when shown a picture of Biden who he was. When asked about Roe v. Wade, many thought it was a new rock band. College educated?

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 16, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

The Dave: “The surplus, my friend jhw539, can be atributed to Clint’s destruction of our military.”
That’s nonsense. The fact are our military came out of Clinton’s era ready to roll over Afghanistan and Iraq without breaking a sweat. They were more than ready to do their job protecting our country from nations who wish us ill, and the Navy and Airforce were (and are, with the exception of the Marines last 7 years of hard labor under Bush in Iraq) more than ready to serve to deter any macro threat (China invading Hawaii? Russia menacing Guam?). Now they are seriously hurting, thanks to a Republican administration which took over a half decade to finally agree to implement an Iraq strategy that works (and Afghanistan is still slowly slipping into disaster).
Again, you are blindly repeating talking points that have no factual support.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

“We’ve spent the last 60+ years fighting communism. We don’t need to elect Lenin #2!”.C’mon. This isn’t worth posting, it’s just something that some guys in red plaid long underwear in an ice fishing shanty came up with. And some guys a little ways down came up with something similar on McCain. 80% of the claims on these boards are lunatic fringe stuff. Come up with something we can really debate. Like McCain voted to confirm Ginsburg and Breyer. A real conservative that McCain.

Posted by: Jeff | October 16, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

If you vote Obama…can you say USSR?
Can you say 57 Islamic States?
Can you say socialism?
If you vote McCain, you can say USA!
You can say 50 United States!
You can say freedom!
I guess we will see if America dies on 11-4-08.

Posted by: Lynette | October 16, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Maryland Woman, first, take off the Cap Lock, everything you write does not have to be in caps. Two, Obama said he was going to cut government programs that were not working or that were overfunded to create new programs. You are worried about “our” money going to these programs? I’ll tell you what, I’d rather give my tax dollars to the needy here, rather than spend them on a needless war. Now that is something that you should have been, and should be worried about.

Posted by: Cynda P. | October 16, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Linda/Michigan: “Read previous post. I’m a democrat and always have been. I was alive when Kennedy was President and didn’t need to read about him from a history book.”
AND THEREFORE YOU KNOW KENNEDY BETTER THAN HIS OWN BROTHER AND DAUGHTER? Seriously? You’re sticking to that? Last I checked, his brother and daughter were alive when he was too you know.
“As for your college educated, brightest and best, watch John Stossel for 20/20 showing you the future of America. ”
Yes, because 20/20 is where I turn for an authoritative and unbiased assessment of our workforce, not my own eyes and ears.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

What are those 100 people buying with there $33,800 each?

Posted by: Chuck | October 16, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

We will continue to work as though we were 10 points behind, like we always have.
It will be worth all the hard work, finally we Americans will have an opportunity to help steer our country.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 16, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

To annaloh No, I have never had associations that spoke of hatred towards America,blacks, whites or jews. Just because Obama said he denounced these actions doesn’t make it so. He made choices and had long associations with these people. He only denounced them because of media and public pressure.

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 16, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Anyone who believes what they hear on talk radio can safely be ignored.
The right wing media loves their gullible audience.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Questions Unanswered
This election has me very worried. So many things to consider.
I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking ‘where did the money come from for Obama?’ I have four daughter
who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama’s life. Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California . He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was
wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time
had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan .
During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ’round the world’ trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia , next Hyderabad
in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question – Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York . It is at this
time he wants everyone to call him Barack – not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia ? It’s not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money
for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ?
He was already living in New York . By ‘chance’ he met Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real
estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named ‘Entrepreneur of the Decade’ by the Arab-American
Business and Professional Association’. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School . Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School ? More student loans?
After Law school, he went back to Chicago . Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess
what? They represented ‘Rezar,’ which is Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago . In 2003,
Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with ‘seed money’
for his U.S. Senate race.
In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans – Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day
Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko. Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this?
Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was ‘sacked’ after the press found out he was having regular contacts with ‘Hamas’, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to
Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will ‘Take care of things’.
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those ‘small’ Internet campaign contribution for
Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East ? And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanapoulos.
Obama on talking about his religion said, ‘My Muslim faith’. When questioned, he said ‘he made a mistake’. Some mistake!
All of the above information were gotten on line. If you would like to check it -Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times
- Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times – September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question – If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this? A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear – ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!

Posted by: paablo | October 16, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Chuck: “What are those 100 people buying with there $33,800 each? ”
Ask McCain – with his inside knowledge of campaign ‘reform’ he pioneered the bundled donation $20k+ dinners this campaign cycle. You really don’t want to start throwing those stones, McCain is under ever one…

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

3 DEBATES – do not determine who the best president would be.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

To Maryland Woman: Not sure where you get your facts but I feel sad for you. Not only are you missinformed but you don’t know you are!
- OBAMA in ’08!

Posted by: Bender | October 16, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

The reason I love this country is because the state doesn’t decide that I can have only 1 child, or no children, or for that matter, I must carry to term a pregnancy in the matter of rape or incest. You love your freedom from big government? Then you should consider not foisting your religious or spirtual convictions on people you dont know. Instead, work to expand the opportunities for all women to MAKE THE BEST CHOICE FOR THEM.

Posted by: Ivy | October 16, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

“I’ve been in these positions before when we were favored and the press starts getting carried away and we end up getting spanked,” Obama said. They ‘got spanked’. Now that’s the kind of Presidential dignity we can believe in.

Posted by: boohoo | October 16, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

((If you vote Obama…can you say USSR?
Can you say 57 Islamic States?
Can you say socialism?)) No proof.
((If you vote McCain, you can say USA!
You can say 50 United)) Can you say 4 more years of Bush?
I guess we will see if America dies on 11-4-08. If McCain wins it will.

Posted by: Rick | October 16, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

jhw539
Caroline was a small child when her father died and Ted Kennedy never fought for his country.
I would say that the two of them have Joe Kennedy Sr. genes. If you know your history, he was a Nazi sympathizer.

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 16, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Wake up Lynette. America is already dead. The middle class, which is the driving force of this economy are STRUGGLING everyday just to feed their kids and put food on the table. People are losing their jobs and you want to give the millionaires and the billionaires out there more money?
On November 4th, when Sen. Obama is elected to the presidency, America will start its long process back to recovery.
Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: HOPE | October 16, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Why are people not mentioning the fact that Gramm used to be one of McCain top financial advisors until get said on camera that “America was a nation of whinners.”?
Look up Enron and you will find none other than Gramm, his wife & senator McCain. Yes my Friends, has some skeletons in his closet too.

Posted by: Aileen | October 16, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE ABOUT OBAMA..JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE – HOW MUCH MORE STUFF DO YOU NEED TO CONVICE YOU?
Posted by: Maryland Woman | Oct 16, 2008 1:25:56 PM
********************************************
How about an occasional non- hysterical poster with a little credibilty, just for starters.
sorry hon, you don’t qualify.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 16, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Can we give the ACORN thing a rest, I guess most of you repubs, haven’t seen the video of Mccain giving a speech at the national head quarters of ACORN, singing their praises. This was only 2 years ago. What is a good idea to get people registered to vote has been, abused by some people who were paid by the registration. This is called registration fraud not voter fraud. Voter fraud is what Florida did in 2000 when they threw out 1000′s of legit voter ballets, by purging the voter rolls, and guess who got purged, the democrats, and that is happening again this time in other states around the country. If Obama wins, great, so be it, just do it fairly. Here in Oregon we vote by mail, We get 1 ballet and we have to it sign our names on the envelop, I could register 1000 times and It wouldn’t make any difference, because they check our names off of a list when they get the ballot. I don’t know how it works in all states, but I assume they have some sort of check. Tony Romo is not going to vote 73 times in Nevada, isn’t gonna happen. You have watered that Damn ACORN until it has grown into a oak tree.

Posted by: Dan IN ASTORIA | October 16, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

You know what irks me is when I hear a young person say that they are voting for Obama because he reminds them of John Kennedy. Please, what do you know about Kennedy? He would be rolling over in his grave if he knew that his brother and daughter are supporting Obama.
Linda, you know nothing about what JFK would or wouldn’t do. And I think his brother knew him a lot better than you. So just stop with your assumptions.

Posted by: annie | October 16, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

It’s the Electoral College Stupid !
Anyone know who’s winning ??? Any guesses ??? Would you like a hint ??? Should I just tell you ??? Have you figured it out yet ???

Posted by: Other Way | October 16, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

“I’ve been in these positions before when we were favored and the press starts getting carried away and we end up getting spanked,” Obama said. They ‘got spanked’. Now that’s the kind of Presidential dignity we can believe in.

Posted by: Wendy Wu | October 16, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Now the BIG question – If I found out all this information on my own, Why
haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this?
A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear – ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!
Posted by: paablo
***********************************************
I agree with your answer, that a mirror may be very helpful to you.
The millions of us who don’t have our heads stuck somewhere dark, know all the answers to your insinuations that you posted.
So maybe you don’t want to be bragging that you haven’t been able to learn anything yourself.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 16, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

LOL.. Joe the plumber is a Fraud… ABC should do some investigating before jumping on this. Now you look silly.LMAO………………………………………
***I guess it’s no wonder John McCain was so happy to use “Joe the Plumber” as a debate prop last night — he’s a partisan Republican who also happens to be a member of McCain’s old friends, the Keating family.
From Martin Eisenstadt:
Turns out that Joe Wurzelbacher from the Toledo event is a close relative of Robert Wurzelbacher of Milford, Ohio. Who’s Robert Wurzelbacher? Only Charles Keating’s son-in-law and the former senior vice president of American Continental, the parent company of the infamous Lincoln Savings and Loan. The now retired elder Wurzelbacher is also a major contributor to Republican causes giving well over $10,000 in the last few years.
Now I guess we know why Joe is telling the press that Obama is a “socialist” and that the Obama tax plan “infuriated” him. After all, it would hit families like the Keatings and their minions the hardest.
Not to mention that Obama’s economic-recovery plan would put the crimps on influence peddlers like McCain’s old friends, the Keating Five.
But he sure made for a good one-day story.*****

Posted by: BlueJersey | October 16, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

And another thing on ACORN, a full 40% of the registrations were for republicans.

Posted by: Dan IN ASTORIA | October 16, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

AND SARAH PALIN HAS BEEN LYING THROUGH HER TEETH ABOUT TROOPERGATE.
I would vote for McCain if Sarah had the courage to:
1. stop parsing, thus in effect denying that she abused her power based on an investigation of 8 Republicans and 4 Democrats, regardless of the proof about it;
2. she has the guts to answer ANY question thrown at her by the press, and by the word press, I mean not just Fox News, Hannity, or Limbaugh.
I admire the discipline of Obama in resisting the temptation to smear Palin. If Obama were in her situation, the GOP would go nuts over it–BLATANTLY go nuts in destroying Obama head on.

Posted by: Gerard | October 16, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Come on Obama you know you got it wrapped up. I am so confident that the rest of theCountry will vote for you I am not going to vote. All supporters should join me. We will win. We have 90 million reasons why we will win

Posted by: billy | October 16, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Boo hoo…You betcha, golly gee, Joe Six Pack, “that one”…that’s more presidential???? Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: VITAL2U | October 16, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Billy, PLEEEEEEZE VOTE…A LANDSLIDE WOULD BE SO WONDERFUL!!!

Posted by: VITAL2U | October 16, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Dear Maryland Woman:
I have many friends who are of Middle Eastern descent. Does that make me a terrorist?
If I had a middle name Hussein and looked like a person from Afghanistan, but I deep in my heart I am an evangelical christian, would you at first take caution since I fit your description of what a terrorist is?
That’s the kind of narrow-minded attitude and prejudice that destroys human relationships–exactly the kind of thinking the Germans had in the past in executing the Jews. And mind you– many of these Germans were bright and intelligent.
If we are to foster hatred merely based on the kind of logic that both you and paablo have, no problem gets solved in this world.

Posted by: Gerard | October 16, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

i am an independent have voted both sides – did not vote for bush either time – was looking fwd to vote democratic – until the democrats offered closeted socialit, no experience obama, as such -
i vote who i think is the lesser of 2 evils – and in this case mccain, and hopefully hillary 2012,

Posted by: sokadija | October 16, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

ON NOV. 4TH… AMERICA WILL TELL INSANE MCCAIN AND THE (inappropriate term) FROM WASILLA… “THANKS BUT NO THANKS”. GO BACK TO ALASKA AND SEEK INDEPENDENCE FROM THE US LIKE YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND DID IN THE ‘ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY’!
PRESIDENT… BARACK OBAMA!

Posted by: Brian | October 16, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

McCain was great last night! Obama is
so evasive and can’t look the camera
in they eye and give us a straight
answer on the Ayers crap. He is a
weasel and we WILL pay if he get’s
elected – you better educate yourselves
and quite letting the mainstream media
pull you and fool you as to what is what
remember they have agenda’s too and have
a preference in who will do them the
most good in promoting that agenda.
BE WISE! What does the democratic
platform really stand for? Have you
read up on that? It ain’t good!
Get out of the bandwagon mentality in
this election people!!

Posted by: Kara Bartee | October 16, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Billy, PLEEEEEEZE VOTE…A LANDSLIDE WOULD BE SO WONDERFUL!!!

Posted by: VITAL2U | October 16, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Come on Obama you know you got it wrapped up. I am so confident that the rest of theCountry will vote for you I am not going to vote. All supporters should join me. We will win.
We have 90 million reasons why we will win
Posted by: billy | Oct 16, 2008 1:51:56 PM
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dear billy: Name 3 honorable reasons of the 90 million why you think Obama will win. Do you understand who Obama is – and why do you want our country as he proposes?

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

The American People cannot handle any more Taxes! Plain and simple.
“S” Corporations will find themselves in a bad position if Obama is elected.
The very people who betrayed us, put us in this econonmical situation – which we have to pay back – because of the corruption in Washington and Walstreet – are the people you will be supporting and putting trust in them to spend YOUR MONEY IN MORE TAXES!!
BARNEY FRANK, NANCY PELOSI, BARACK OBAMA, JOHN KERRY, CHRIS DODD, REID – are those people ahead of the bunch!

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Red or Blue, it’s ALL koolaid.

Posted by: Heinrich | October 16, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

You know what irks me is when I hear a young person say that they are voting for Obama because he reminds them of John Kennedy. Please, what do you know about Kennedy? He would be rolling over in his grave if he knew that his brother and daughter are supporting Obama.
Linda, you know nothing about what JFK would or wouldn’t do. And I think his brother knew him a lot better than you. So just stop with your assumptions.
Posted by: annie | Oct 16, 2008 1:42:28 PM
…………………………………..Well Annie,you are right..maybe they don’t know anything about John Kennedy, but that applies to you as well..How do you know that they are rolling over in their graves? So maybe you don’t need to make assumptions either..Yong people know about John Kennedy through their parents and grandparents just like young people know about Reagan and Bush from their parents and grandparents…Quite the contrary, I think they would be very happy to know about Obama because a lot of his ideals are based on their philosophies…That’s why their brother, Ted and their niece, Caroline endorsed him…..

Posted by: Had enough!! | October 16, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

The McCain camp stoked the fire of hatred during the Palin rallies and now they are crying; who me? McCain is the little boy that sucker punches and then runs back to mommy to hide behind her skirt when he gets called on it.

Posted by: dan | October 16, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

BARACK OBAMA and JOE BIDEN – ARE SO SLIMY..THEY ARE THROWING “JOE THE PLUMBER” UNDER THE BUS TODAY….DO YOU KNOW WHY? – BECAUSE McCAIN MADE HIS POINT USING THE COMMENT OF “OBAMA” – PLUS, KATIE COURIC – INTERVIEWED JOE THE PLUMBER AFTER THE DEBATE – AND HE HAD POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT “McCAIN” – SO COURIC “CUT HIM OFF”!
———-
LOOK AT THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THESE ARE…
AND SOME OF YOU WANT TO HAVE OBAMA AND BIDEN IN OUR BEAUTIFUL WHITE HOUSE?? WHY?

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Wake up people, barack is for infanticide.

Posted by: dacectrep | October 16, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Sokadija is another person who pretends to be independent. what a loser!

Posted by: joe | October 16, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

To all of those who love to trash Obama,
I would emphasize the following:
1. Read the ENTIRE Troopergate report on Sarah Palin;
2. Have you ever considered for a moment the fact that Palin is married to a man who was a member of the Alaskan Independent Party, a local terrorist organization that likes to separate Alaska from the entire USA? By the way, Sarah prepared a video for their convention just last March.
3. Libby is a local terrorist with whom McCain still considers a friend.
4. Cindy McCain continued business with Keating AFTER the scandal that her husband was embroiled in. Keating was responsible for the economic collapse of the late 80s.
The whole point of the matter is this: You are quick to judge Obama on Ayers, ACORN, Jeremiah Wright and all his past associates. The problem is you are not willing to listen to his side of the facts.
If I were in your shoes, I would ask Palin to give proof of her innocence, not just denying she did no wrong, but proof that she did no wrong. Obama has offered every proof to invalidate such accusations against him, while Palin did nothing but simply say ‘I have not violated any rule.’ Honestly, is that enough?
And did you notice that none of these matters are being discussed in the media these past few days? Do you know why? Obama is a gentleman. And he is much more concerned about issues which affect Americans during these dire economic times. And he even agreed with McCain on some issues.
“What’s in a name?
A rose by any other name
would smell as sweet.”
Obama has a middle name Hussein. But he is still a human being like you and me, and so is Palin and McCain.

Posted by: Gerard | October 16, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Maryland woman – 1 – He believes a woman should have rights over her own body, not the state. 2 – McCain’s choice of Palin was made for political expediency, would put this country in danger if she needed to take office, is an insult and a slap in the face to this country. McCain thinks we’re stupid. 3 – Obama’s SMART. He’s got brains. He thinks. He doesn’t shoot from the hip, although I realize that you joe six-packers might go for that. and 4, although you only asked for 3 – he voted against the war in Iraq.
lots more on this list.

Posted by: counting crows | October 16, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

I wonder if Rev. Wright will swear-in Mr. Obama. That would be a kick in the teeth to all the liberals.

Posted by: Kathy | October 16, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Maryland woman- Wake up, no one cares about that. Joe the Plumber is nothing.
You deserved to be taxed.

Posted by: joe | October 16, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

The McCain camp stoked the fire of hatred during the Palin rallies and now they are crying; who me? McCain is the little boy that sucker punches and then runs back to mommy to hide behind her skirt when he gets called on it.
Posted by: dan | Oct 16, 2008 2:03:31 PM
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Your comment is so untrue. McCain and Palin did not insight those comments. The public are doing their research on who Obama is and what his “real” plans are for our country…I recommend you do the same.
Because McCain and Palin tell truth with straight talk – in your view they are insighting riots and are racists, and whatever else the Obamaites can conjure up.
Your a perfect example of the type of individuals who support Obama. We are in real trouble as a country.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Boo hoo…You betcha, golly gee, Joe Six Pack, “that one”…that’s more presidential???? Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: VITAL2U
This ‘news’ story isn’t about the geezer and the hag is it? The either-or simplicity of the voters’ minds is one of many possible examples why mob rule doesn’t work.

Posted by: boohoo | October 16, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Kathy- May I say you will be the most unhappy son of a gun when Obama is sitting in the Oval office doing the right thing. Rev Wright, no on care about him anymore, he was thrown under the bus a while ago. What is your major malfunction?

Posted by: joe | October 16, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

To all of those who love to trash Obama,
I would emphasize the following:
1. Read the ENTIRE Troopergate report on Sarah Palin;
2. Have you ever considered for a moment the fact that Palin is married to a man who was a member of the Alaskan Independent Party, a local terrorist organization that likes to separate Alaska from the entire USA? By the way, Sarah prepared a video for their convention just last March.
3. Libby is a local terrorist with whom McCain still considers a friend.
4. Cindy McCain continued business with Keating AFTER the scandal that her husband was embroiled in. Keating was responsible for the economic collapse of the late 80s.
The whole point of the matter is this: You are quick to judge Obama on Ayers, ACORN, Jeremiah Wright and all his past associates. The problem is you are not willing to listen to his side of the facts.
If I were in your shoes, I would ask Palin to give proof of her innocence, not just denying she did no wrong, but proof that she did no wrong. Obama has offered every proof to invalidate such accusations against him, while Palin did nothing but simply say ‘I have not violated any rule.’ Honestly, is that enough?
And did you notice that none of these matters are being discussed in the media these past few days? Do you know why? Obama is a gentleman. And he is much more concerned about issues which affect Americans during these dire economic times. And he even agreed with McCain on some issues.
“What’s in a name?
A rose by any other name
would smell as sweet.”
Obama has a middle name Hussein. But he is still a human being like you and me, and so is Palin and McCain.

Posted by: Gerard | October 16, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

I think this is going a bit far it has left what its design for and has turn into something that does not mean anything. Why not keep your thoughts and ugly remarks to yourself and vote for whom you think is the better person whether he is black or white. Please do not make this into a black & white thing. I will say this much i feel as if Barack is more focus on the needs of the people than the personal attacks thrown at him.

Posted by: sharon | October 16, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Admit it, most people who are voting McCain are at least a little racist, There I said it! I hope Obama wins so we could shove all the racist into a corner and expose every last one of them! Bring it!

Posted by: joe | October 16, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Paablo- as they tell you repeatedly in college, Wikipedia is NOT a reliable sourse of information. Anyone can log on and write whatever they want without having their facts checked. If that is where you recieved all of your info, maybe you should do some more research.

Posted by: annie | October 16, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

I think I’ve figured it out.
Obama supporters want to elect someone who looks like a clothes model out of the J.C. Penny’s catalog.
Obama at the debate, for all his supposed “coolness”, looked like a brainless clothes mannequin, with his goofy mirks, and pointless, monotonous answers.
Just what Liberals want.
A dummy in a nice suit.

Posted by: One_American | October 16, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

michael – you’ve got the health insurance issue a.. backwards. you need to listen a little more carefully.

Posted by: counting crows | October 16, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

I’m sure that regardless of your party affiliation…we can all agree that our economy is in trouble..and we all can expect higher taxes if Obama is President, amoung other things – not to mention the fact he and others were given millions in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac donations…so, my question is this:
With all the financial problems in America – WHY WOULD BARACK OBAMA STATE – THAT HE WILL REPLACE THE WHITE HOUSE BOWLING ALLEY – WITH A BASKETBALL COURT? DO HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT WILL COST….AND YOU KNOW THAT WE TAX PAYERS WILL BE PAYING FOR IT – WITHOUT ANY SAY IN THE MATTER.
BARACK OBAMA IS A SELFISH CORRUPT LYING POLITICIAN….HE’S DEFINATELY..”MORE OF THE SAME”.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

Sory Annie…that comment was meant for Linda….not you…

Posted by: Had enough!! | October 16, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

had enough, I haven’t made any assumptions. I was telling Linda that she shouldn’t make assumptions about JFK. I think your post applies to her, not me.

Posted by: annie | October 16, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Would someone please tell me… who is Chuck Baldwin and why should I vote for him?

Posted by: Jack | October 16, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

To Obama supporters:
Let’s take the high road in this. The more we take a bite at what people rant about like leopard decorations in the White House, we do not do them any good.
Also I am a Christian like all of these narrow-minded people. Looks like when it comes to politics, Jesus’ teachings on looking to the heart of people—from the Good Samaritan to the sinner who is humble before God vis-a-vis a Pharisee who is proud to admit that he is better than the sinner before God— are all thrown out the window and forgotten.
If Christians behave this way, Jesus has two words for them: hypocrites and vipers.

Posted by: Gerard | October 16, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Linda/Michigan – people have made up their mind. All people hear is I’m going to take from the rich and give to you the middle class and people believe it. Don’t even make the effort to be successful b/c I’m going to give you everything. Land of the free – literally.

Posted by: jerilyn | October 16, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Anyone here who truly believes that Obama is focused on the needs of the American people…are not looking past the words.
I strongly suggest that you read up on
the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO and about MARXIST SOCIALISM UNDER SOLINSKY….THEN DECIDE “WHO EXACTLY BARACK OBAMA IS – AND WHAT HIS PLANS ARE FOR “OUR COUNTRY”!
BARACK OBAMA – NANCY PELOSI – BARNEY FRANK – CHRIS DODD AND REID ARE ANTI-AMERICANS – ANTI-CAPITALIST…THEY ARE NOT THE DEMOCRATS IN THE DAYS OF JFK’S DEMOCRATIC PARTY. – THE CURRENT CONGRESS HAS A LOWER APPROVAL RATING THAN GEORGE W. BUSH…WHAT’S THAT TELLING YOU.
WAKE UP AMERICA!

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Sory Annie…that comment was meant for Linda….not you…
Posted by: Had enough!! | Oct 16, 2008 2:18:10 PM
LOL Sorry, I posted before reading this.

Posted by: annie | October 16, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

To Obama supporters:
Let’s take the high road in this. The more we take a bite at what people rant about like leopard decorations in the White House, we do not do them any good.
Also I am a Christian like all of these narrow-minded people. Looks like when it comes to politics, Jesus’ teachings on looking to the heart of people—from the Good Samaritan to the sinner who is humble before God vis-a-vis a Pharisee who is proud to admit that he is better than the sinner before God— are all thrown out the window and forgotten.
If Christians behave this way, Jesus has two words for them: hypocrites and vipers.
Posted by: Gerard | Oct 16, 2008 2:21:13 PM
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Hate to enlighten you, but your precious Barack Obama is the hypocrit and viper..to say the least. You can’t handle the Truth about him.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

McCain is an rich, angry old man with a bucket list. On that list is to be President of the United States. He would sacrafice his own grandmother to be president!
VOTE OBAMA!

Posted by: Brian | October 16, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

One_American: “Obama at the debate, for all his supposed “coolness”, looked like a brainless clothes mannequin, with his goofy mirks, and pointless, monotonous answers.”
Many thought his answers substantive and intelligent, even if you found them pointless and monotonous (Obama does have a tendency to get into facts and details a bit more than he should). Others, proud members of the Republican party of ignorance, think people will ignore what they have seen and heard with their own eyes over the last two years of debates and press conference and believe – get this – that a guy who graduated top of his class from Harvard and taught constitutional for 12 years is stupid. Amazing.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Maryland Woman – there’s a financial crisis and two wars going on and you want to talk about bowling alleys and basketball courts as a damaging costs? You priorities are really screwed up, it seems. Personally and politically.
Posted by: T | Oct 16, 2008 2:22:36 PM
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You can’t be serious. That is a Case-in-Point comment. Oh, but Barack Obama who wishes he is president, when he grows up…can talk about his White House BasketBall Court – in the mist of the financial crisis and war?? I can see where the intelligence is here.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

All you bots out there…do you really want banker nobama to take your earnings and give them so someone else? Oh I forgot…you probably don’t work or pay taxes, so you will be in line for a check. How stupid of me.

Posted by: Julie | October 16, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

We Obama supporters want to elect a “J.C. Penny’s model” and turn the White House into the “Ghetto House” with leopard rugs? You people who spew this kind of hate have no business having the right to vote. And at the end of the day, I’m sure just like your leader McCain, you’ll blame Obama supporters for the most negative campaign “tactics”. GROW UP PEOPLE.

Posted by: gohogs85 | October 16, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

One_American – you called Obama a “dummy in a nice suit”? Because most dummies graduate from Columbia undergrad and Magna Cum Laude (which translated from Latin basically means “really freakin smart”) from Harvard Law School while serving as president of the Harvard Law Review. But you always have McCain who graduated 894 out of 899 from the Naval Academy after daddy pulled strings to get him in. And Palin? How many colleges did she go to? And what degree did she graduate with? Be careful who you call a dummy, dummy!

Posted by: T | October 16, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

One-American, it seems you have Barrack Obama mixed up with Bush.

Posted by: what667 | October 16, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Pam: “I am so frustrated that Americans will not wake up and realize what is going to happen if Obama is elected. Our Country will become a Socialist Country, just like Cuba and Venezuela. Obama’s ‘spread the wealth’ comment, his one sentence definition of Socialism, hopefully WILL wake some of you up! ”
OK, perhaps you can answer my question – has there ever been, now or in the history of mankind, a free prosperous nation that does not meet your personal definition of socialism? That is one that did not have progressive taxation that spread the wealth. EVER. In the history of the world. One.
You might be able to find some little oil soaked hamlet in the 70′s, or maybe a middle ages nation state built on gold (although how free is it if women are chattel?)… I’m just curious how utterly detached from any reality your bumpersticker party is.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Posted by: Pam | Oct 16, 2008 2:24:40 PM
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Pam: They will not see past Obama’s words. They are so in the tank; that they “don’t want to see”. If Obama becomes the president – those Obama anti-americans – will be bringing us all down…and I hope they feel the worst of what they helped do to all of us. I hate to say it, but I cannot help it. It’s horrible that these people can’t see it – and refuse to do their research.
Even THE NATIONAL BLACK REPUBLICAN ASSOCIATION – DOES NOT SUPPORT OBAMA. CAN’T SAY THAT ORGANIZATION IS “RACIST”.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

“They will not see past Obama’s words. They are so in the tank; that they “don’t want to see”.
WE SEE WHAT BUSH AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE TO THIS COUNTRY THE LAST 8 YEARS AND THAT’S ENOUGH!

Posted by: Brian | October 16, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Barack Obama is a good and classy man and did great last night, as always.
It not over tell the last vote is counted.
Every Obama supporter has to get to the polls and vote!!!
No Chances NOT THIS TIME!
GO OBAMA/BIDEN!!

Posted by: Fara Smith | October 16, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

This will be an interesting election, EVERYONE PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE!

Posted by: Rick | October 16, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

I WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA/BIDEN, I AM SURPRISED THAT EVERY REPUBLICAN IS CRYING !! YOU ALL AFRAID OF CHANGE, IF YOU HAD IT YOUR WAY , YOU ARE ALL SO IGNORANT THAT YOU WOULD RE ELECT BUSH ANOTHER 4 YEARS., WHAT A JOKE. BUSH WILL GO INTO HISTORY AS THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER IN THIS COUNTY.

Posted by: Coy | October 16, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

55Mariposa:” We have socialism coming out of our ears on OBAMA and ya’ll don’t care.”
I don’t mean to be repetitive, but I’m dying to be educated and no Republican has ever answered this simple question – has there ever been, now or in the history of mankind, a free prosperous nation that does not meet your personal definition of socialism? That is one that did NOT have progressive taxation that spread the wealth. EVER. In the history of the world. One.
I thought you might be able to find some little oil soaked hamlet in the 70′s, or maybe a middle ages nation state built on gold (although how free is it if women are chattel?), but as no one has been able to answer I’m starting to doubt it. I’m just curious how utterly detached from any reality your bumpersticker party is.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Sen. John McCain’s vice presidential running mate has been running around the country, firing up her — yes, her, and not necessarily McCain’s — loyal supporters by blasting Sen. Barack Obama for “palling around with terrorists” and demanding that the American people know exactly when he learned of the past of 1960s radical William Ayers.
She has stoked the crowds by saying, “This is not a man who sees America the way that you and I see America.” We all know what that is designed to do: Portray Obama as a foreigner who isn’t as American as she. Or you. Or Joe Six-pack, the hockey mom, soccer mom, Wal-Mart mom, NASCAR dad and the other coded words she uses regularly.
But what is truly pathetic is that Palin talks tough, but is really scared of facing her own issues.
Since she is good at proclaiming that the American people need to know who Barack Obama is — an attempt to paint him as a shady figure who might occupy the White House — the American people deserve to hear Palin answer if her husband, Todd, a former member of the Alaska Independence Party, agreed with its founder, who wanted to secede from the union.
Is there anything more anti-American than wanting to sever ties with the country?

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Obama was photographed recently carrying a copy of Fareed Zakaria’s book “The Post-American World.” I guess he was trying to learn what the world would be like after an Obama administration.

Posted by: professorj | October 16, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

jhw539- you seem to the most educated about Obama’s plans.
Can you tell us all what the new tax brackets will be under Obama’s plan?
Also, how much will each person have to pay for their national health care per month?
Finally, how much is the penalty for businesses that do not “contribute” to their employees health care? What is the revenue limit on companies before they get hit with this penalty?

Posted by: Michael | October 16, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Why not a socialist country?
Is what we have now working in
any way whatsoever?
What will happen in this country
soon if we do not make some major
changes will make the fall of Rome
look like a town hall shake up in
a little town in Alaska.
Pick out the curtains Michelle!
These idiots of America are getting
what’s coming to them now for voting
for Bush in two elections.
The open and proud LIBERALS of this
country are going to have the last
laugh this time.

Posted by: Jimi | October 16, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Palin the self-described ‘maverick’ needs to own up to what really happened with the firing of the commissioner in Alaska? She was declared by a special investigator to have been within her rights in firing the commissioner, but she was blasted for abuse of power and violating the state’s ethics act.

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Why not a socialist country?
Is what we have now working in
any way whatsoever?
What will happen in this country
soon if we do not make some major
changes will make the fall of Rome
look like a town hall shake up in
a little town in Alaska.
Pick out the curtains Michelle!
These idiots of America are getting
what’s coming to them now for voting
for Bush in two elections.
The open and proud LIBERALS of this
country are going to have the last
laugh this time.
Posted by: Jimi | Oct 16, 2008 2:48:18 PM
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Is that where your heart is..having the “last laugh”? – God help us all. Your cutting of “our” noses to spite your face.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

McCain voted 95% of the time with Bush and supported his FAILED POLICIES!
McCain=Bush
VOTE OBAMA!
TELL PALIN AND MCCAIN… “THANK’S… BUT NO THANKS”!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

The second coming of the Messiah is upon us.

Posted by: Beelzebub | October 16, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

As I said earlier McCain looked irritated and old and while it may seem he rattled Obama..the truth is that Obama rattled him. Just look at his expressions, constant eye blinkin, huffing and puffing to get the next word in….he is the one who looked angry and impatient. At least he shook hands at the end this time after reading all the negativity after he did not the last time. He is a clever politician and one I fear with his partner Palin. These are scarey people. Mc Cain lied when he said he shot down anyone who spoke badly of Obama as I watched his campaign and Palin’s and they did not. Obama is the only hope for the middle class and I hope they realize it, Mc Cain wants to privitize your s.s. and tax your medical coverage. Think about this before you vote.

Posted by: Pat Napolitano Marietta. Ga. | October 16, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

jhw539 – socialism.
You’re correct. Our country already has alot of socialist policies in place.
They have given us the housing bust where Democrats in congress have pushed low income people into homes they couldn’t afford (highly educated social engineering).
Socialism has given us a nationalized banking system and bailout due to poor policies.
Socialism has given us an education system where we dump more money per student then any other country out there but get extremely sub-par results.
Socialism has given us a large lower class that is completely dependent on government supplements (welfare and tax credits) with little hope or incentifive to break free.
Socialism has enslaved millions of people across Asia.
If it were not for Ronald Reagan it would have been the continued enslavement of millions of Eastern Europeans.
So yes.. We have socialism and we don’t need any more of it thank you.

Posted by: Michael | October 16, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

NEWS FLASH – FROM THE RADIO —
ACORN JUST MADE A STATEMENT THAT BARACK OBAMA DID NOT TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO THEY ARE.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

I live in the midwest and several democrats said they don’t have to vote now. GREAT for McCain!!!

Posted by: Jane | October 16, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

The republicans are even running on the ‘Change’ theme!
Why are they running on the change theme… when we’ve had a republican president for the last 8 years… and for 6 of those years the republican controlled the house & senate!!!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

CORRUPTNESS AND ARROGANCE AND DOWN-RIGHT CRIMINAL:
PEOPLE ARE REPORTING TO NEWS TALK RADIO – THAT THEIR CREDIT CARDS ARE BEING CHARGED “UNAUTHORIZED DONATIONS” – BY THE “OBAMA CAMPAIGN” —- CHECK YOUR CREDIT CARDS CAREFULLY!!! — REPORT ANY FRAUD TO YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY TO REMOVE THE UNAUTHORIZED CHARGE.
THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE ABOUT OBAMA..JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE – HOW MUCH MORE STUFF DO YOU NEED TO CONVINCE YOU?

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

“McCain is an rich, angry old man with a bucket list. On that list is to be President of the United States. He would sacrafice his own grandmother to be president!”
VOTE OBAMA!
Posted by: Brian | Oct 16, 2008 2:24:52 PM
Brian, thank you for this insightful look into McCain’s motivation for becoming president. Yesterday he was almost begging us to select him based on “how much he has suffered and served his country”. He does have a bucket list and like you say is to become: POTUS.
Blessings to you Brian.
Emora
Chicago, IL

Posted by: emora | October 16, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

NEWS FLASH – FROM THE RADIO —
ACORN JUST MADE A STATEMENT THAT BARACK OBAMA DID NOT TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO THEY ARE.
Posted by: Maryland Woman | Oct 16, 2008 2:53:25 PM
Are you listening to Rush again. Or is Hannity on now.

Posted by: annie | October 16, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

You know some of the comments I am reading is so hateful and racially motivated…It is so sad that some people can not see past a man or woman skin color…There are actually people out there who will not vote for OBAMA because of his skin color…It doesn’t or wouldn’t matter to them what colleges he attended, how many degrees he holds…it just doesn’t matter what he says or what he stands for…the only thing they see is a BLACK MAN…and that is so DAMN SAD!! Obama is a smart man, an intelligent man, a man with a vision for this country that we all love so dearly. He is a vision of CHANGE…and I feel that OBAMA is the man that can take this country forward in a positive direction..He is a man that just happened to be a black man…Please see him as a man..not for his skin color. He is just as passionated about this country as John McCain..For those of you who can’t stand the fact that a man of COLOR could actually become the next president of the United States…I say to you…GET OVER IT…Step into the 21st century and leave all that racial crap behind…we are all created equal…and if the man that wants to improve the economy, improve health care, improve education and so on and so forth give the man a chance..so what if he just so happens to be BLACK! People you need to stop all this HATRED!! It is truly SAD!

Posted by: ProudParent18 | October 16, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

The republicans are even running on the ‘Change’ theme!
Why are they running on the change theme… when we’ve had a republican president for the last 8 years… and for 6 of those years the republican controlled the house & senate!!!
Posted by: B | Oct 16, 2008 2:54:48 PM
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Because the Repubs are mocking Obama with “change” – when in fact, he’s the same old Washington corrupt politician – McCain and Palin are the “real” change, which means reform…which have been their cause for years.

Posted by: Maryland Woman | October 16, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

The head of Sen. John McCain’s transition team, power lobbyist William Timmons, was involved in a lobbying effort on behalf of Saddam Hussein in the early 1990s “to ease international sanctions against his regime.”
CHECK IT FOR YOURSELF!
VOTE OBAMA!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

jhw539 Socialism = Communism. Socialism, the government controls media, oil, and evey other major industry. Look at Venezuela. The rich get richer and the middle class and poor get poorer. There is NO middle class in Venezuela. Chavez promised change and the people bought it and now they can’t speak out against Chavez for fear that they won’t wake up the next day. Castro said the same thing, Cubans elect me and I will change the way Cuba is run…..Look at how many Cubans are still trying to flee Cuba for the US. If you want to live in a socialist country go to Canada where the majority of Canadians hate their health care program. We need to get rid of the ACLU and all the stupid law suits protecting stupid people. We need our government to inforce the LAWS that we have on the books vs making new laws. Since Washington is mainly made up of lawyers they know all the loop holes in all the new laws which keep them in business. I don’t what a gov’t telling me where I can live, what job I can have, I don’t want to have to go to the gov’t run gocery store or gov’t run bank.

Posted by: 55Mariposa | October 16, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

B But, the congress has had it for the last two years and Bush has signed everything. What have the Democrats Done!!!!

Posted by: Jane | October 16, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

one can’t help but love obama. as much as i would like to see mccain win for his experience and service, the darn guy just keeps winning hearts all over. he really is a class act also and very much a common sense fella. i’m convinced and either one would be great.obama is adorable and seems to really care about making changes for the better. so what if he builds a basketball area in white house. he could paint it pink even, what matters is someone who will work for the people and gets it done. mccain is great but last night convinced me that obama just keeps ticking and that’s great for him. his parents would be so very proud of him and his success.

Posted by: zorra | October 16, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

“B But, the congress has had it for the last two years and Bush has signed everything. What have the Democrats Done!!!!”
THE REPUBLICANS HAVE SET A RECORD FOR FILIBUSTERS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS!
VOTE DEMOCRAT! VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN!!!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

30,000 felons registered to vote in Fla. alone. Voter fruad in Ohio & Ind.
Look for the results to be tied up in the courts.

Posted by: ZJ | October 16, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Michael: You’re best off slogging through the white papers at his site, and no candidate is as specific as what you’re looking for, but I’ll take a shot.
“Can you tell us all what the new tax brackets will be under Obama’s plan?”
For the tax brackets under $250k, there is no difference from McCain’s plan (extend the current tax cuts). For the 33 percent and 35 percent brackets, under Obama’s plan your taxes will revert to the pre-2001 levels of 36 percent and 39.6 percent. That is, he would allow the Bush tax cuts to expire exactly as Bush proposed them to (since if they don’t expire the federal budget deficit is indefensible). He is also proposing raising the capital gains tax to 20% now (versus the 28% Reagan raised it to in 1986 for high income people…).
“Also, how much will each person have to pay for their national health care per month?”
It will *average* the same as under John McCain, but it’s a different mechanism such that people with pre-existing coverage will remain in the private pool rather than have to be picked up at a large cost by the government (or worse – health care by $$$ emergency room).
“Finally, how much is the penalty for businesses that do not “contribute” to their employees health care? What is the revenue limit on companies before they get hit with this penalty?”
Neither of these have been defined. It would be expected that the penalty will be similar to the cost of providing mandated worker’s comp.
Again, I will note that McCain has offered NOWHERE near the level of detail you are asking. At least Obama is upfront about how he’ll pay for some of his proposals, McCain has not (and his continued tax cut proposals are more expensive than Obama’s ‘tax and spend’ ones…).

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

“the congress has had it for the last two years and Bush has signed everything”
Bush has vetoed 11 items since the Democrats took over Congress. 4 of those vetoes have been overridden.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

if it wasn’t for hollywood he would have triple digit wins by now.

Posted by: zorra | October 16, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Maryland Woman, you are about as real as Stringer Bell and Proposition Joe:
Take that tire guage that McCain sent you and measure the air that is leaving this dying campaign. Stick it with a fork, its done baby.

Posted by: AAR | October 16, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

If Obama didn’t care for the middle class and the working people…why didn’t he get a job as a lawyer…he could have had a job anywhere paying a lot more than he made as an organizer. It seemed from the start he cared for people who were down and under and he still does. He didn’t grow up with a silver spoon in his mouth like McCain so he can relate to food stamps and hard work. McCain fooled around in his youth and almost failed out of prep school. He still thinks about the upper class with his tax breaks…he says words but does not make plans for the middle income and until recently did not even say those words. Why? He canot relate.

Posted by: Pat Napolitano Marietta. Ga. | October 16, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

“30,000 felons registered to vote in Fla. alone”
That sounds bad until one finds out felons have had their right to vote restored in Florida.
“Most felons released from prison will have their voting and other civil rights restored under a rule approved Thursday by Republican Gov. Charlie Crist and the state clemency board.
All but the most violent felons would avoid the need to get on a long list for a hearing before the board, which sometimes takes years.”
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

It isn’t over yet, although the news media want us to think it is. There are a couple weeks left and I am hoping people will truly evaluate each candidate and make an informed decision ….one that is not based on party loyalty or smear campaigns. Both sides are guilty of that. Take the measure of the man….by his past actions NOT his present words. And yes, actions do include your friends, business associates, religious advisors, etc. To say these things are irrelevant is short-sighted at best and ignorant at worst.

Posted by: Mac | October 16, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Proudparent18, I am not against a blackman running for President. I am against Obama because of the people that he associates with…Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, Tony Rezko, Valleri Jarret Nadhmi Auchi, Davis, Ayers and his association with Pres. Chavez in Venezuela, Acorn, Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac, Obama was voted as the most Liberal congressman in 2007. He is more liberal than Nancy Pelosi. If Collin Powell or Bill Cosby was running for President I would vote for them in a heart beat. But I can’t vote for a person that associates himself with individuals that say GD America, the the White people owe us and they need to give us the whole country. You talk about racism…then look real hard at Farrakhan & Wright. They are the ones that are holding down the black race by preaching hatred toward Whites, Jews, Christians, Hispanic, Chinese.

Posted by: 55Mariposa | October 16, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

55Mariposa: “Socialism = Communism.”
No. No it does not. Not by anyone who understands basic English.
Obama is in no way advocating any policy that suggests the dissolution of private property rights. Progressive taxation, as practiced by every first world nation on the face of the Earth and by America for it’s entire history, is not Communism.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

There will always be good and bad, strengths and weaknesses in people, so Obama and McCain are no exceptions. No one is all good or all bad. But from where I sit, Obama makes more sense for this country. Obama is unquestionably the more intelligent by a country mile (President of Harvard Law Review vs. Bottom of the Class). After the last 8 years, heaven knows we need someone with brains in office. Obama is for diplomacy before militaristic options vs. McCain who doesn’t believe in talking but likes to shoot from the hip. Obama is already well-respected by foreign national leaders and will be in a far better position to restore America’s standing in the world. Obama surrounds himself with the best people in the world to advise him economic policies … Warren Buffet, Paul Volcker. Obama’s gift for oratory is not to be minimized; he will be able to inspire the people, much like Reagan did when he was President. Most of all, Obama’s calm demeanor speaks well for a leader who will guide us through difficult times methodically and purposefully. Obama is the antithesis of McCain/Palin, and that is the reason why Obama/Biden will win convincingly.

Posted by: annaloh | October 16, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

“On a different note, in this world we live in today, how can Obama even think of cutting defense spending?”
He won’t because he can’t. Here’s what will happen:
1. Military R&D will be cut depending on the need and time to complete. This is a standard way to deal with budget short falls in the Pentagon. Some promising programs where there is an identified need will be shifted to other organizations. DARPA-mediated business drops off.
2. Military reprovisioning will increase. We’ve been fighting two wars for eight years and that depletes stocks and manpower.
We literally have to overhaul and that won’t be cheap. So anyone telling you there will be a war bonus cherry is just selling you the pits. Budgets will shift but they will grow as well or remain at near current levels.

Posted by: len | October 16, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Because the Repubs are mocking Obama with “change” – when in fact, he’s the same old Washington corrupt politician – McCain and Palin are the “real” change, which means reform…which have been their cause for years.
Posted by: Maryland Woman
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Seriously, did you just read what you typed? Please, read it again. The “same old Washington corrupt politician.” Do you realize how long McCain has been in Washington? He’s actually grown old there. You make absolutely no sense. I’m all for bipartisan debate, but your words aren’t even worthy of discussing further. If you want to at least bring something to this online debate of sorts, write something intelligent.

Posted by: Navy79Echo | October 16, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Michael: “You’re correct. Our country already has alot of socialist policies in place.”
Again, has there ever been, now or in the history of mankind, a free prosperous nation that does not meet your personal definition of socialism? That is one that did NOT have progressive taxation that spread the wealth. EVER. In the history of the world. One.
I’m just curious how utterly detached from any reality your bumpersticker fantasy land is. I want a teleporter to go visit my nieces – it would clearly be VASTLY better than 5 hours on a plane. Does that mean that planes should be abolished since they are so obviously flawed?

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Obama is a gentleman. And he is much more concerned about issues which affect Americans during these dire economic times. Also McCain did not blew the socks off of Obama.
John McCain was so rough around the edges, he did not talked straight to the issues and did not made any sense.
For eight years, mccain was so closely associated with. bush. cheney. and the whole bush crew. If something happen to him ,I do not want the country be run by Sara Palin, she is out of tuch and I do not trust her. Sorry and I’m a woman.

Posted by: Shalamar Best | October 16, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Get out and vote… the party that got us into this mess the last 8 years doesn’t deserve another 4 years! VOTE OBAMA!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

McCain is a rich, angry ol’ man with a bucket list. On that list is to be President of the United States. The republicans got us into this mess don’t they don’t deserve another 4 years…America can’t take another 4 years!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

What got me is the healthcare plans. That is what made my decision final. Obama covers pre-existing conditions and what does McCain offer $5000 which will not even cover my health plan. I figured it up and mine would cost close to $12,000. Where is that other $7,000 gonna come from. Certainly not my pocketbook.

Posted by: babs | October 16, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Linda/Michigan:
You have it all wrong. I’m black and I know of a few black republicans who are voting for McCain. I don’t call them racist at all, and I don’t think they are selling out either. They’ve actually backed up why they are voting for McCain, whether they like his fiscal plan or that of their party. You are the one blaming Obama for something that he has no control over. People that want to vote for him will vote for him of their own accord, NOT because they are forced to. It’s strange how race is all of a sudden an important issue to some of you non-minority people whenever you think something is unfair on your part: like a political candidate you like losing to another political candidate backed by majority blacks WHO HAPPENS TO BE HALF (I REPEAT, HALF) BLACK! It’s such a stereotype from white people to label anyone part black as all black. His mother and grandparents (the people who raised him) ARE WHITE!

Posted by: kim w. | October 16, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Mr Reality
Apparently millions of Americans disagree with your assessment of Obama. That’s okay; we call it democracy.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 16, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

PALIN SPOKE LAST YEAR AT THE ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY MEETING AND HER HUSBAND WAS A MEMBER FOR 7 YEARS. THEY SEEK INDEPENDENCE FROM AMERICA!
The founder of the Alaska Independence Party — a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years — once professed his “hatred for the American government” and cursed the American flag as a “damn flag.”
“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government,” Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.
“And I won’t be buried under their damn flag,” Vogler continued in the interview, which also touched on his disappointment with the American judicial system. “I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

“That is, he would allow the Bush tax cuts to expire exactly as Bush proposed them to (since if they don’t expire the federal budget deficit is indefensible). He is also proposing raising the capital gains tax to 20% now (versus the 28% Reagan raised it to in 1986 for high income people…).”
2008 0-8k your rate is 10%
2001 0-27k your rate is 15% (Obama’s plan)
2008 8k-32k your rate is 15%
2001 27k-65k your rate is 27.5 (Obama’s plan)
2008 32k-78k your rate is 25%
2001 27k-65k your rate is 27.5% (Obama’s plan)
2008 78k-164k your rate is 28%
2001 65k-137k your rate is 30.5% (Obama’s plan)
2008 165k-357k your rate is 33%
2001 137k-297k your rate is 35.5% (Obama’s plan)
When Obama lets the Bush tax cuts expire EVERYONE’s taxes will go up.
The poor and middle class will of course get the biggest raise because Bush gave them the larget cuts.
“It will *average* the same as under John McCain, but it’s a different mechanism such that people with pre-existing coverage will remain in the private pool rather than have to be picked up at a large cost by the government (or worse – health care by $$$ emergency room).”
Reference please…
“Neither of these have been defined. It would be expected that the penalty will be similar to the cost of providing mandated worker’s comp.”
Right.. not defined like so much of his policies.
He lies to your face about not raising your taxes. He doesn’t give you any details on anything regarding his insurance and you still vote for him.. Amazing how gullible people are.

Posted by: Michael | October 16, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

No thanks, but I don’t like the idea of spreading the wealth around. Why? Because when you sacrifice your money, time, energy, family time to go to school and secure a better job then why should you be punished? I am a nurse, and I don’t think I deserve what the doctor makes. This is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone aspire to do better if your government wants to take more from you if you do? This philosophy frightens me.

Posted by: Joe | October 16, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

You’ve lost your job… no longer have health care… try getting new health care coverage with a pre-existing condition.
$5k isn’t going to help you what-so-ever!
Then… McCain will tax you for it!!!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Linda/Michigan – Here’s a really big difference between us – When I see Obama I see a MAN that I would be proud to have as our next president – I am fortunate that I’m color blind, especially when selecting the best PERSON for a job as important as this. The fact that his race is even an issue is what makes me not proud of some of my fellow Americans.
I am old enough to remember JFK and I think Obama has the heart, the soul, the wisdom, the passion, the drive and the ability to bring a much needed change to this nation and for me he is very much like JFK in that regard, here is another man that dares to dream that things can be better and should be better, that the average American should matter just as much as the rich American. Obama doesn’t need to have an income that is like mine to understand what could work best, he sure in the heck as a far better idea then McCain.

Posted by: AttitudeOfGratitude | October 16, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

jhw539, thank you your intelligent, rational posts. I particularly appreciate your explanation of the consequences of Obama’s proposed tax policy … surely even Michael and the other McCain supporters can understand (now that you’ve given them the numbers) why Obama’s plan makes sense. Unfortunately, this country is so divided now with passions running wild, that I fear many McCain supporters have been so brainwashed by Fox and Limbaugh that they will refuse to open their minds to the voice of reason. Hopefully, these people will at least give Obama a chance to do his work once he is officially our President.

Posted by: annaloh | October 16, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Better put the cork back in the bottle of crystal. It ain’t over yet.
Rasmussen Tracking
Obama 50
McCain 46
Gallup Tracking
Obama 49
McCain 47

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

“You’ve lost your job… no longer have health care… try getting new health care coverage with a pre-existing condition.
$5k isn’t going to help you what-so-ever!”
Step One – Need money to fund either plan.

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

My concern with the November election is in reference to a question Bob Shaffer asked each candidate during the debate on October 15th. The question was concerning each of their running mates for the vice presidency. Do they think they are qualified to lead the county if something should happen to each of them while they are president? Neither candidate was willing to give a direct answer to this question.
Although Senator Obama stated he believe Senator Biden will make an excellent candidate to run the county, Senator McCain was unable or unwilling to give an answer.

Posted by: GEE | October 16, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

jhw539 – obviously you missed my point.
In all civilizations there is a balance. Our country is founded by individuals that have made their own way in the world. Not by a government making their way for them.
Obviously, any civilization is going to require a government to build roads, defend borders etc… Ours was specifically created to ensure the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Note: Not a “guarantee” of happiness.
So to answer your question. No, no country has ever been successful without a government.
The question is NOT whether we should have a government or not. It’s a question of whether we should give up our individual identities and live for another person at all costs. IE take from the rich and give to the poor.
There are lots of countries out there that already do this. Venezuala, China formerly the Soviet Union, France, Sweden, Vietnam etc..
Some are good at it – some not so much. The ones that are good at it typically don’t have to worry about defending themselves (they do not have a budget for a military) because they have us to do it for them. They also do not produce anything of significance to make their country “great”.

Posted by: Michael | October 16, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

No thanks, but I don’t like the idea of spreading the wealth around. Why? Because when you sacrifice your money, time, energy, family time to go to school and secure a better job then why should you be punished? I am a nurse, and I don’t think I deserve what the doctor makes. This is a ridiculous idea. Why would anyone aspire to do better if your government wants to take more from you if you do? This philosophy frightens me.
Posted by: Joe
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Do you seriously think you are wealthy? Why are you afraid of “spreading the wealth around” if you aren’t, indeed, rich? His words to not mean that unemployed people in the slums who don’t work will get free money, it means that the money will be given to programs to help those people GET jobs and an education to stop them from multiplying and living off of welfare. If no one gives money for this cause, their kids and their kids’ kids will continue to drain the hardworking whose taxes are going to welfare and programs that don’t always encourage school and work. No one is breaking into your piggy bank to give the guy on the corner a free handout.

Posted by: Kim W. | October 16, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

“2008 0-8k your rate is 10%
2001 0-27k your rate is 15% (Obama’s plan)
2008 8k-32k your rate is 15%
2001 27k-65k your rate is 27.5 (Obama’s plan)
2008 32k-78k your rate is 25%
2001 27k-65k your rate is 27.5% (Obama’s plan)
2008 78k-164k your rate is 28%
2001 65k-137k your rate is 30.5% (Obama’s plan)
2008 165k-357k your rate is 33%
2001 137k-297k your rate is 35.5% (Obama’s plan)
When Obama lets the Bush tax cuts expire EVERYONE’s taxes will go up.
The poor and middle class will of course get the biggest raise because Bush gave them the larget cuts.”
You need to read the fine print. Snap out of it before it is too late.

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Mack,
You might as well post all the tracking polls versus cherry picking
Gallup (trad likely voter): Obama +2
Gallup(expanded likely voter): Obama +6
Gallup (registered voter): Obama +6
Reuter/CSPAN/Zogby: Obama +5
Rasmussen: Obama +4
Hotline/FD: Obama +8
GW/Battleground: Obama +6

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

God forbid something happens to McCain… and he have Palin as our President. This woman is NOT qualified.
Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said his party’s vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, lacks foreign policy experience and called it a “stretch” to say she’s qualified to be president.
“She doesn’t have any foreign policy credentials,” Hagel said in an interview published Thursday by the Omaha World-Herald. “You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don’t know what you can say. You can’t say anything.”
VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Mack – do you honestly believe Obama is not going to let the tax cuts expire?
What they don’t tell you is they don’t consider that raising your taxes since it’s an expiration and not new legislation.
However, when your paycheck is smaller I think you will.
Face it. Obama is lying about lowering your taxes.

Posted by: Michael | October 16, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

No kim w, you have it wrong. Obama is running as the first African American for president. No where have I heard that he is running as the first biracial candidate. Obama also knows that the vast majority of blacks will vote for him solely based on his skin color. You hear it all the time, I’m voting for the brother. So who’s racist?

Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 16, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

“When Obama lets the Bush tax cuts expire EVERYONE’s taxes will go up.”
Obama plans on letting the Bush tax cuts for the highest tax bracket expire. He is keeping and expanding upon the tax cuts for everyone else
Why the obvious lie Mack?

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Michael:”When Obama lets the Bush tax cuts expire EVERYONE’s taxes will go up.
The poor and middle class will of course get the biggest raise because Bush gave them the larget cuts.”
Obama has clearly and repeatedly committed to maintaining the Bush tax cuts for the lowest tax brackets. Directly from his publicly posted (for over a year on his website) taxes white paper:
“The top two income tax brackets would return to their 1990’s levels of 36% and
39.6%. All other tax brackets would remain as they are today.”
Your post is either badly misinformed or a flat out lie. The brackets you state for Senator Obama are flat out fabrications and this year blatant slander doesn’t seem to be moving the polls.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

“The man who stood up at the McCain rally has received death threats and has been called Uncle Tom”
BS. That guy was a conservative radio host in Milwaukee given a front row seat so McCain could pick him.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

I will vote for Obama/Biden because if we elect McCain/Palin, who will keep an eye on Putin and Russia? Nobody wants Putin to rear his head in America’s territory.

Posted by: Bobby | October 16, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

socialized medicen has been a debate in the USA since 1946, even in high school debate classes in 1948. Maybe the time is close however is it all bad? Obama is bright,and we sure could use someone with some smarts after the little King W for 8 years who said being president was “Hard Work”, he had no clue what hard work was then or now. McCain is simply too dammed old and set in his ways and sounds like his brain slides in and out of gear too easy. I wouldn’t trust him under any circumstance. He is a “Let ‘em eat cake” guy; and there is no flour to bake one with!

Posted by: Shirley | October 16, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Let me just say this about JFK and also RFK: I was 10 when JFK was elected president in 1960. When RFK was assasinated running for that same office, I was nearly 18 in 1968. Around the time Martin Luther King, Jr was assasinted in April of that same year Robert Kennedy predicted that a Black man could be president within a 40 year period.
Well, here we are 40 years later and RFK’s words are becoming a reality!!
“Turning in their grave”? I think not!!

Posted by: Michael Pelletier | October 16, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

My concern with the November election is in reference to a question Bob Shaffer asked each candidate during the debate on October 15th. The question was concerning each of their running mates for the vice presidency. Do they think they are qualified to lead the county if something should happen to each of them while they are president? Neither candidate was willing to give a direct answer to this question.
Although Senator Obama stated he believe Senator Biden will make an excellent candidate to run the county, Senator McCain was unable or unwilling to give an answer.
Is this true

Posted by: sue | October 16, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

My concern with the November election is in reference to a question Bob Shaffer asked each candidate during the debate on October 15th. The question was concerning each of their running mates for the vice presidency. Do they think they are qualified to lead the county if something should happen to each of them while they are president? Neither candidate was willing to give a direct answer to this question.
Although Senator Obama stated he believe Senator Biden will make an excellent candidate to run the county, Senator McCain was unable or unwilling to give an answer.
Is this true

Posted by: sue | October 16, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

“Face it. Obama is lying about lowering your taxes.”
Face it, right wingers are lying about Obama tax plan because they know it benefits the middle class far more than McCain’s plan.
And they don’t want people to know that Obama is going to cut their taxes while McCain taxes their health care benefits for the first time in history.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Has you noticed the direction of the country with Bush and republicans in control??? We’re hated around the world, Iraq was lie and a huge mess, oh… and not to mention our economy! McCain is not any different… and Palin! wOw!… let alone is she not qualified to be VP or President she is dumb as a brick, religious extremist, a member of the Alaska Independence Party that seeks to remove a star from the American flag and has a witch doctor to “rid her of demons”!!!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Linda/Michigan…We are looking out of two different set of lens..When I see Barack Obama I not only see the first African American man in the White House, but I also see a very smart, intelligent, articlate and educated young man who grew up with grandparents(who were white if we need to bring race into this) who were hard working people and who instilled in him the importance of making somthing out of yourself…He was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth and had to work hard for everything that he achieved….He did this and all the time on his way up he realized the plight of poor people in this country which inspired him to want to give back to society which he did through the different community projects that he worked on…Even as president I feel he still has compassion towards the “little guy”..When I look at John McCain, I see a spoil army brat who got by on his father’s merits, finished last in his military class; an adulterer who left his first wife who stuck by him while he was prisoner of war, and when she was disfigured in an automobile accident, he left her and married a drug addict beer heiress who is worth over 100 million dollars; who wore a 300,000 dress to the RNC and John with his 500.00 shoes;13 cars 9 houses and 15 bedroom house in Arizona…Michelle Obama’s dress cost 150.00 dollars… I wonder how many meals on wheels, homeless people and soup kitchens that could be stocked with 300,000?… Now who do you think can relate to the middle class…John McCain only wants to be president because that would just be another trophy added to his power hungry ego…He doesn’t care about you or me…And the sad reality of it is that the people who vote for him are the ones who can least afford to…

Posted by: Had enough!! | October 16, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Michael: “The question is NOT whether we should have a government or not. It’s a question of whether we should give up our individual identities and live for another person at all costs. IE take from the rich and give to the poor.”
Every first world country in the history of the world, including this one since it’s inception, has “(taken) from the rich and (gave) to the poor.” Obama’s plans are small tweaks to the current balance, moving the tax meter back towards the sustainable level it was at under Clinton (and even Reagan in many areas). Neither McCain nor Obama are asking you to give up your individual identities – we’re talking about a 3% disagreement over the two highest tax brackets. Not sure how you’re getting so existential over that?

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Ryan,
I would say that those 2 pollsters have at least been consistent, unlike all the rest of the garbage polls out there. I think ACORN/CNN just put out a poll that has Obama up by 42.
Please stay as far away from the Jints as possible.

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

“But our economy is “fundamentally sound”, John McCain!”
Didn’t you know he was talking about the American work force??? duh! :) The American work force is fundamentally sound!…. The ripping off of the American workers is fundamentally sound!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

“Has you noticed the direction of the country with Bush and republicans in control??? ”
Sure has. Although Pelosi, Franks, Dodd and the rest of the economic wrecking crew have had a hand in it.

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

I am continually impressed with Barack Obama. If he were a Maverick, he would have already ordered the dancing girls and have his acceptance speech ready for prime time. Good for you Barack! He is correct, we need to stay the course and keep our focus, not party like Rock Stars. Certainly he is in line to win, but that doesn’t mean it is clinched. November 4th cannot come fast enough! I am so tired of reading about the shortcomings of the GOP. The horse is dead, bury it already.

Posted by: What's That Smell | October 16, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

“I would say that those 2 pollsters have at least been consistent, unlike all the rest of the garbage polls out there”
Which would be fine if Gallup did not just change their reporting from just registered voters to adding two new likely voter models.
You just happened to quote the model that showed the closest race.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

jhw539 What do you call Chavez, the President of Venezuela? a commi or a socialist? any way, within 6 months of taking office, Chavez took over the media – TV & Radio stations and now the Venezuela gov’t control what these people hear & see….just like they do in China,Russia, Iraq, Iran, France, etc. What do you call Castro in cuba?

Posted by: 55Mariposa | October 16, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

McCain “learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn’t love it.”
McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.
McCain’s second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. “Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula,” Timberg wrote, “he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral.”
McCain’s third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.
Timberg reported that McCain radioed, “I’ve got a flameout” and went through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before the plane slammed into a clump of trees.
McCain’s fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain’s plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.
McCain’s fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain’s A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Had Enough, well said … took the thoughts right out of my head. There is indeed no comparison between the the intellectual, compassionate Obama with the reckless, power-hungry McCain. And I think the majority of voters see that. That’s why I’m cautiously expecting to see an Obama landslide in the offing.

Posted by: annaloh | October 16, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Being a registered Independent for over 20 years, I find it disheartening reading the extremely harsh opinions and comments of people from both parties. It’s one of the reasons I became an Independent.
Of the two candidates, Sen. McCain has run a more negative campaign than Sen. Obama. Sen. Obama’s hands aren’t completely clean. I understand after being attacked, at some point you must fight back.
The Debate: To give a glaring contrast of these two men, simply look at their responses to the question about their running mates. Sen. McCain attacked Joe Biden. While Sarah Palin has given American voters any number of things to cast doubt about her qualifications to be VP, Sen. Obama took the high road. He didn’t attack Sarah Palin and he praised her for her passion for children with special needs.
The CHARACTER that Sen. Obama demonstrates is why he will be the better president. Sen. Obama has risen to the occasion many times throughout his campaign. Sen. Obama’s campaign is a reflection of his character and leadership.
Unfortunately, Sen McCain is someone I have lost respect for. Sen. McCain once carried himself in high esteem. However, he lost his way. The honor he once was known for is being jeopardized by his erratic behavior, negative campaigning, poor decisions and political tactics.
As an Independent Voter and Independent Voice… I suggest all supporters on both sides of the aisle, demonstrate the best qualities of the candidate they say they represent. The extreme discourse represents the worst of America’s ugly past…

Posted by: Bruce | October 16, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

“McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat,” explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs — the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. “Since McCain got 28 medals,” Bell continues, “that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys — grunts on the ground — who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I’m sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.”

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

“You just happened to quote the model that showed the closest race.”
Just pointing out that the race isn’t over yet. I know how you like to cling to your polls.

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

“Of the two candidates, Sen. McCain has run a more negative campaign than Sen. Obama. ”
You don’t live in a swing state. We’ve been bombarded with attack ad after attack ad from the Messiah over the past 3 weeks. I’m sure that a few million of the 29 million dollars that he spends every week on attack ads, are being spend here.

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives me crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking ‘where did the money come from for Obama’. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama’s life. Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ’round the world’ trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question: where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack – not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It’s not cheap to say the least! Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000 a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York. By ‘chance’ he met Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named ‘Entrepreneur of the Decade’ by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association’. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented ‘Rezar’ which is Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with ’seed money’ for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans – Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko. Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy? On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley, advisor to Obama, was ’sacked’ after the press found out he was having regular contacts with ‘Hamas’, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will ‘Take care of things’.. Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that were born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those ’small’ Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East? And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, ‘My Muslim faith’. When questioned, ‘he made a mistake’. Some mistake! All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it – Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times – Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times – September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008. Now the BIG question – If I found out all this information on my own, why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this? A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear – ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!

Posted by: Common Sense | October 16, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Yes, and stop twisting the truth Obama!
Forty percent of Americans don’t pay taxes. You would just send them a welfare check.
You sure do spread a lot of prevaricating smooth talk around! :(

Posted by: aware2u | October 16, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Has anyone seen the state of economics in Illinios? We are doomed!

Posted by: Bpercival | October 16, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

55Mariposa: “jhw539 What do you call Chavez, the President of Venezuela? a commi or a socialist?”
He’s a classic South American strongman, one of a long line of authoritarian leaders with dictatorial tendencies. His economic policy leans heavily to socialism, but that is secondary to his personal accumulation of power. He bears no resemblance to any of Senator Obama’s declared policies.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

common sense – use some – do you think anyone is gonna take time to read that book you just wrote?

Posted by: rookie_63 | October 16, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

“Has anyone seen the state of economics in Illinios? We are doomed!”
It’s more dangerous in Chicago than Iraq.

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Common Sense: Cut and pasting some tin foil hat conspiracy is hardly useful to discussion. Obama’s funding through school, ranging from his grandparents, to merit based scholarships, to the student loans he paid off just a few years ago, is a well-worn matter of public record (in fact, he’s been mocked for writing two books “about himself” that covers much of it). Quit clogging the tubes with this nonsense, it just embarrasses Republicans.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Style over substance. Unfortunately, John McCain can’t compete with Obama’s style. Afterall, Obama is a very well trained, trial lawyer. He has been educated at the best schools, and has a stunning command of vocabulary.
No one doubts that!
But John McCain pointed that out in a few references of “listening to the details of what he said”
McCain can’t compete on style, but he can compete on honesty and integrity.
Barak, unfortunately, has so many shady associations, that such an astute professor of law; law student and President od Harvard Law review never heard about the famous case of U.S. -v- Ayers!?!
C’mon, Barak is so Liberal, he’ll turn this country into a bumbling welfare state!
The electoral college can’t help with local elections, so we can’t have a completely Liberal-democratic congress and senate. The presidency is the only branch of government that will allow us from becoming a completely socialistic society. Please vote McCain!

Posted by: Planewizard | October 16, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Michigan is a showcase of Democratic economic policies in action.

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Run for the hills racist. Follow your leaders McCain/Palin hopefully to outer space.

Posted by: Didi | October 16, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

The statistics for negative campaigning are about equal. So, don’t believe the Obama obfuscations!

Posted by: aware2u | October 16, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Mack: “Just pointing out that the race isn’t over yet. I know how you like to cling to your polls. ”
Is that your personal opinion, or are you paraphrasing Obama who said almost that exact same thing?

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

“Run for the hills racist. Follow your leaders McCain/Palin hopefully to outer space.”
Pastor Wright? Is that you?

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

jhw539, then why is Obama’s buddy, Ayers going down to Venezuela and giving speeches with Chavez? This event occurred 2 years ago. So we have Ayers that bombed buildings in the US when Obama was 8 years old so people change….right, wrong. If Ayers is going down to Venezuela and chumming around with Chavez and funding Obama’s campaign with money I say Obama is guilty by association…..And did you know that in Sept.2008 Russia has offered Chavez weapons and nuclear cooperation….. Russia in bed with Chavez, Ayers in bed with Chavez, Obama is in bed with Ayers….Guilty by association. Farrakhan & Rev. Wright hate America, whites, jews and anyone that does not have the black skin color and both support Obama. Obama did say that he wants to sit down and talk to HAMAS and the President of Iran….I don’t think talking will do any good with either group.

Posted by: 55Mariposa | October 16, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

aware2u: “The statistics for negative campaigning are about equal. ”
Could you get a little more vague? I’m sure “the statistics” are about equal for many many things between the two campaigns.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

“It’s more dangerous in Chicago than Iraq.”
25 US military personnel were killed in Sept.
98 Iraqi military personnel were killed.
268 Iraqi civilians were killed.
These deaths are apparently ok subjects for jokes by right wingers.
I guess that;s to be expected when your candidate sings joyfully about bombing another country.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Neither of them offered to stop the war in Iraq so who cares what they think of the economy? They are obviously both idiots and lost my vote. By the way stock market Unemployment will be going up no matter who gets voted in. I say thi because when our soldiers do come home unemployment will double or triple!!! Do you think blacks will riot if Obama is not elected? Do you think blacks will riot if Obama is asassinated? I think either way its trouble. No one cares about G.I. Joe anymore just Joe the stupid plumber who is way too well off in comparison to most of us. Neither of them seems to be any kind of peace maker.

Posted by: Paulie | October 16, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Neither of them offered to stop the war in Iraq so who cares what they think of the economy? They are obviously both idiots and lost my vote. By the way stock market Unemployment will be going up no matter who gets voted in. I say thi because when our soldiers do come home unemployment will double or triple!!! Do you think blacks will riot if Obama is not elected? Do you think blacks will riot if Obama is asassinated? I think either way its trouble. No one cares about G.I. Joe anymore just Joe the stupid plumber who is way too well off in comparison to most of us. Neither of them seems to be any kind of peace maker.

Posted by: Paulie | October 16, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Hey Joe,
not everyone voting for McCain is a
little racist! Good grief! I’m white
my husband is black and we have a
biracial daughter. We are NOT voting
for Obama. Blacks voting for Obama
because he is black are doing it for
all the wrong reasons. But once again
people who do not educate theirselves
on ALL of the info and have the old
I’ll do whatever the mainstream media
tell’s me I should do mentality – will
vote for Obama. Any of you Obama voters
found out any information on your own
without getting it spoon fed to you by
your TV set? Or a biased newspaper?
come on people – do better! Obama
is for partial birth abortion as an
alternative and tax payer funded abortions for anyone. I don’t work to
pay for your inability to use birth
control or unwillingness to shoulder
your adult responsiability. You want
to lay down, but you don’t want the
adult consequences that come with that!
Get Real America – Get Education -
show some common sense – hatred does’nt
cut it and voting for someone just to
say I voted for the winner or I’m black
so I voted for the black man is totally
uneducated and ignorant and foolish.

Posted by: Kara Bartee | October 16, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Obama is a very well trained Saul Alinsky student! And so are the ACORN people!
Also, Alinsky’s books “Rules for Radicals” and “Reveille for Radicals” are good source books for Obama grassroots organization and his speeches! He pulls phrases right from the books!
Obama said, he learned the most from Saul Alinsky, a Marxist grassroots organizer whose real claim to fame was as strategist for anti-establishment ’60s radicals and revolutionaries.
Alinsky said, The devil challenged authority and got his own kingdom, and that goes to the heart of what left is really about. That of course is to get power any way you can, including lying, cheating and stealing. The ultimate rule is that the ends justify the means.
read the books if you want to know who Obama is! :(

Posted by: aware2u | October 16, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

common sense
Even if Obama were a Muslim, which is clearly not the case, he still would not be the ‘enemy from within.’
Give up on the fear-mongering.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 16, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Ayers will be giving the keynote address at the 100th anniversary celebration of the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.
Guess he’s not the scary guy McCain wants us to think he is.

Posted by: Ryan C | October 16, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Mariposa55:”jhw539, then why is Obama’s buddy, Ayers going down to Venezuela and giving speeches with Chavez?”
What on earth are you ranting about? I’m not entirely sure you’re even replying to me. As has been rehashed at great length quite publicly, Ayers is far from “Obama’s buddy.” Obama has less influence on (or from) what Ayers does that I have on what my car mechanic, a guy called Cheech, does.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

mccain gave him a good run for his money. considering that he had to start his campaign at the worst disadvantage you could imagine, he did quite well.

Posted by: jeff m | October 16, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Obama never calls anyone bad names. He is so nice. No once has he said that the Republicans are lying. He just says they are making stuff up. Such a gentlemen, and so much class. He always takes the highroad.

Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 16, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Does Obama’s “share the wealth” campaign include his brother living on a $1 a month.

Posted by: chris | October 16, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

McCain didn’t divorce his wife when she stole money from a charity. Why should Obama have had to leave his church because of what his minister said.

Posted by: paula Lacey | October 16, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

“Ayers will be giving the keynote address at the 100th anniversary celebration of the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.
Guess he’s not the scary guy McCain wants us to think he is. ”
“Guilty as hell and free as a bird, America is a great country”

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Ryan C: If you want opaque, listen to Obama! But, I’m sure you can do your own numbers – not opinions research!

Posted by: aware2u | October 16, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Obama’s father was an Economist for the government, so fixing the economy is in his blood. His mother was an anthropologist., and his half-sister has a Doctorate degree. A very smart family.

Posted by: paula Lacey | October 16, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

The people who are voting for McCain are the same people who are afraid of change.

Posted by: paula Lacey | October 16, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

May 5, 2006; John McCain & 19 other GOP senators wrote a letter, with excerpts as follows:
Dear Majority Leader Frist and Chairman Shelby,
We are concerned that if effective regulatory reform legislation for the housing-finance government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) is not enacted this year, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the house housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
…. Today, almost half of all mortgages in the U.S. are owned or guaranteed by these GSEs. They are mammoth financial institutions with almost $1.5 Tillion of debt outstanding between them. With the fiscal challenges facing us today (deficits, entitlements, pensions and flood insurance), Congress must ask itself who would actually pay this debt if Fannie or Freddie could not?
…. It is vitally important that Congress take the necessary steps to ensure that these institutions benefit from strong and independent regulatory supervision, operate in a safe and sound manner….
More importantly, Congress must ensure that the American taxpayer is protected in the event either GSE should fail….
A picture of the letter is under the fold, but first, we should mention that Barack Obama did not sign on to the letter – and for that matter, there are no Democrats on the letter at all.
So I googled [Obama + "May 5, 2006"] just for kicks, to see what he might have been up to at the time. Put it this way: he was thinking about real estate, mortgages and the like, but not about you, the American taxpayer.

Posted by: Planewizard | October 16, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

jhw539, Where do you think Clinton’s surplus came from? How many bases had to be closed to make it look like a good thing on paper. Yuk!

Posted by: The Dave | October 16, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Bruce, I agree with you 100% …. We need to stop this crap and get back to the business of the people for the people. Obama has taken the high road in the debates when some would have liked for him to get down with mccain dirty polictice tricks. I too will support obama.

Posted by: Patriotic American | October 16, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

The Dave: “jhw539, Where do you think Clinton’s surplus came from? How many bases had to be closed to make it look like a good thing on paper.Yuk! ”
You mean the base closures that McCain touted as an example of good, bipartisan action on the stump? How many of them have had to be reopened? We’re short of people, not porky real estate.
And I have not visited Moveon.org’s website, so if anything I have written is showing up there please post a link so I can follow up on who’s quoting me. Otherwise, quit lying and try to stick to the facts.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 16, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

A senior Secret Service agent said allegations that a man yelled ‘kill him” when Barack Obama’s name was referenced Tuesday during a Sarah Palin rally are “unfounded,” reports the Timesleader.com, a Northeastern Pennsylvania news agency.
Agent Bill Slavoski — who was standing in the audience along with other Secret Service agents during the rally in Scranton, Pa. — said neither he nor the other officers heard the comment, according to the report published Thursday.
Slavoski — who is charge of the Secret Service’s field office in Scranton — launched an official investigation into the charge and said he could not find anyone other than the Scranton Times-Tribune’s reporter to corroborate the story.

Posted by: hummingbird | October 16, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Well, Easy boy! President Obama will chose Sen. Hillary for secatary of states? Little experiance handled mocho experiance? I’m Yelow-Xman. My endorsement go to Sen.Obama. Congraturation President Obama!

Posted by: yungh | October 16, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Get this right DEMS, Yes your income Tax will have a slight increase if Obama becomes president, But do you guys even know what other TAXES are in Bushes Tax cuts??, get ready for the BIGGEST INCREASE IN overall Taxes ever, If you think your TAXES WILL DECREASE UNDER OBAMA, You all DESERVE WHATS COMING.

Posted by: Aden | October 16, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

There won’t be curtains .. it will either be beads or aluminum foil!

Posted by: Marcus | October 16, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

“If you think your TAXES WILL DECREASE UNDER OBAMA, You all DESERVE WHATS COMING.”
Please… these last 8 years of Bush economics have left me with a empty wallet. Your tax scare tactic isn’t going to work. I know I will have more of my hard earned money under Obama!
Your right… after Bush, 95% of Americans deserve what’s coming… OBAMA!!!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Now our job is to get out the vote.

Posted by: darby | October 16, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Let the revolution begin!
OBAMA/BIDEN!!!!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

The Real John McCain uncovered here:

Posted by: darby | October 16, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Trust the Messiah. It is well known that a politician nevers lies when it comes to campaign promises, circumstances just happen to conveniently “change”. Remember “Read my lips”? You want change, look for it to start with what you have been promised by your candidate of choice.

Posted by: Beelzebub | October 16, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Yet again the McCain supporters retort to fear, lies, and decite in their words against Obama. Anyone with a good brain can tell this crap from someone who is honest. McCain is not honest, and niether are his supporters.

Posted by: GWP | October 16, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Slavoski — who is charge of the Secret Service’s field office in Scranton — launched an official investigation into the charge and said he could not find anyone other than the Scranton Times-Tribune’s reporter to corroborate the story.
Posted by: hummingbird | Oct 16, 2008 4:27:33 PM
Well duhhh. Of course not it was a GOP rally. You think the rats are gonna rat somebody of their own ilk out?

Posted by: Jwench | October 16, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

STAY COOL OBAMA!

Posted by: Lily Bell | October 16, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

I am a hard working American who makes less than $30,000.00 a year with 3 children and a wife.I get up at 4 a.m. every Monday thru Friday to be at work by 6:30 a.m. My wife works about 8 to 9 hrs. a day. We both work hard to provide the best and most comfortable enviroment for our three children. Its a struggle with high gas prices and high price for groceries. We are always worried about if one of the kids get sick or hurt wondering if we are going to go bankrupt to pay for there doctor bills. But me and my wife we keep plugging along and never give up. But I think its time for us and other Americans like us to have some prosperity and happiness we need some one in the White House who understands the struggles in raising and maintaining a family in todays America. Whether you are black ,white or hispanic it doesn’t matter we are all in the same working poor or middleclass and we need a break. I think Barack Obama is our best choice for President. There are a whole lot of us in this country who makes less than $250,000 a year and Obama’s policy is just what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: afrimex | October 16, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Remember New Hampshire.
GOTV

Posted by: Jim B | October 16, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

personally wrote an article in the magazine [US News & World Report] , wherein he stated that during the time he was in prison (in fact I think it was 5 or 7 days after he was captured) he asked the [North] Vietnamese to take him to the hospital, the Vietnamese hospital. And in so doing, he promised them that he would would give the classified military information.
They did. He did.
They took him to the hospital, questioned him, and he gave highly classified information. The most important of which was he gave the “package route”, which was the route to bomb North Vietnam. He told in detail the altitude they were flying, the direction, if they made a turn, and how to get (into N. Vietnam ?) He also gave them where the targets were; of their primary entry. Whether it was a railroad; whether is was a bridge; whether it was an ammunition or fuel dump; or whatever it was, he gave them the primary targets the United States was interested in.
After he gave them that information, the Vietnamese naturally moved their anti- aircraft defenses into those areas and built them up and strengthened them. They also moved the rockets, aircraft weapons, into the “package route” of where the airplanes were flying in or egressing. The result of this, according to the information that came out later on, in intelligence, was that the Vietnamese started knocking down our aircraft in greater amounts than they had before. In fact, there was an estimate that we started losing 60% more aircraft and more men than we had previously. This went on for about a month, and it got so bad, that they finally called off the bombing of North Vietnam because of the information that McCain had given to them.
Interviewer: And Earl, some people say that what McCain did was at the very least collaboration and at worst, treasonous. Would you say that you would agree with that?
No. I agree with only one part of it. He was treasonous.
McCain, for what he did while he was in captivity, was a traitor. Because he gave information to the enemy, classified, military information to the enemy, which caused the deaths of many of his fellow aviators that came in behind him.

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

McCain personally wrote…

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Gee,,, you people keep saying McCain plays dirty Politic.
What about your idol?
You know he doesn’t need to say negative but his backers do for him and all the MSM.
Just like last night he claimed McCain did not do anything whenhis supporter said “kill him”.
Do you know on “Extra Extra” they showed Obama SMILED look at his supporter held ghost board of Palin with bad words on it?
I just wished last night McCain knew about this.
But,,I was so happy,clapped my hands when McCain said he is not President Bush…ha,,ha,ha,,,

Posted by: Fakebama | October 16, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Does Obama’s “share the wealth” campaign include his brother living on a $1 a month.
Posted by: chris
—————————————-
And why does he HAVE to pay for his brother? Do you support your siblings? I can tell you of many, many Americans with grown siblings who do not pay their way through life. And also, Obama is concerned with AMERICANS right now, you know, the people who are taxpayers IN AMERICA. His brother is not an American citizen…..they only share the same father, who Obama didn’t even really know. Obama’s mother was a white American. Obama only found out about his other “blacker” half siblings when he got older. Why should he have to support them financially? They are grown adults with their own children to think about. Also, do you realize what an American dollar is over there in Africa? No? I thought so.

Posted by: Kim W. | October 16, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Of course you are right Afrimex, but where you go wrong is thinking that either one of these two dopes knows anything about the struggle a family like yours experiences daily. They both have lived pretty comfortable lives, and it’s pretty safe to say they have absolutely no-idea of what it takes to support a family on 30k per year. The voting public is nothing more than pawns in the power game played by the parties, and despite going through the same crap every four years, nothing ever really changes, and no-one ever seems to learn. see ya in four years for the same ol crap.

Posted by: Beelzebub | October 16, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

We’ll all have to wait ‘n see if Obama can deliver on his promises regarding taxes. But one thing is for sure — McCain will not reduce taxes for anyone — just businesses, and all that’ll do is make those who have preferred stock richer. find out what your “individual” Federal tax will be when Obama is President and Congress approves his plan.

Posted by: Kent | October 16, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

McCain= Bush.
He supported Bush… He voted along with Bush.
Now that the country is going to **** because of those policies… he want’s to distance himself from Bush… just like all you other republicans want to try to do now.

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

—Are we about to elect our first MEDIA INDUCED PRESIDENT!
The media has favored (fawned over) Obama to an unprecedented level:
-‘Skunk Man’ Jay Leno’s and ‘Snag Headed’ David Letterman’s non-stop jokes about McCain and few if any about Obama!! (I would tell Letterman where to go, Bluntly & Directly)
-The Saturday Night Live Crap-Crowd & Tina Feign’s non-stop incriminations (which poles have shown indoctrinate feeble minds).
-CNN and the rest of the liberal media ‘fawning’ over Obama in such blatant fashion.
-Hollywood entertainment type programs showing their bias for Obama, very blatantly.
-The Oliver Stone movie “W”. A genuine Docu-Drama (a license to Lie) from one of Hollywood’s most ‘Irresponsible’ directors.
- Matt the ‘bitch boy’ Damon & Keith ‘GoOfy’ Olbermannn !!
(Do we need any more proof of a Liberal, ‘Bigoted’ Media!!!)
ETC., ETC., ETC.
Is the Media Helping Obama to steal an election!!!

Posted by: Mr Reality | October 16, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

FACT: In history… the taller presidential candidate most often won the presidency.
President Obama!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

I love McCain. I honestly feel bad that I’m not voting for him. He’s done a lot for this country. But at this point it’s almost like I have to vote *against* him, considering how emboldened the “fringe” feel with him (and this coming from a former Arizona native and McCain voter).
But Sarah Palin completely turns me off. I’m afraid of her. She’s too effective at whipping up a mob and speaking to our most irrational of paranoia’s. It makes me feel that a vote for her is a slide back from over 40 years of social progress. She’s also barely getting to know this very multidimensional country that she might end up leading. She absolutely doesn’t represent me.

Posted by: John | October 16, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Mr Reality: hmmmm…obviously they got your attention….instead of going to one of your “unbiased” news sources you came here to whine.

Posted by: Kim W. | October 16, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

What has happened to this country?
Are country was founded by God Fearing people and when we abandon GOD this is what happens.
WAKE UP AMERICA……
Read the last chapter in the Bible.
GOD ALWAYS WINS……..
It’s never too late because
GOD forgives, if only we ask…
3:16

Posted by: bower | October 16, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

republicans owned congress and the whitehouse for 6 yrs they implmented all their ideas without opposition from democrats so whos to blame for everything that is going on? Republicans time for change obama 08 common!!!!!!

Posted by: lt | October 16, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Obama worshipped the father of Community Organization, Saul Alinsky. And to whom did Alinsky dedicate his book “Rules for Radicals?” To Satan of course. Here is the dedication …… “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

Posted by: Wisdom | October 16, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

ATTENTION REPUBLICANS… IF THERE IS AN ANSWER FOR THE QUESTION BELOW… PLEASE ANSWER IT! I HAVE YET TO HAVE A REPUBLICAN GIVE ME AN ANSWER…
WHY ARE THE REPUBLICANS RUNNING ON THE “CHANGE” SLOGAN?
We have had a REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT for the last 8 YEARS… and 6 of those years the house and senate were Republican controlled… YET, THE REPUBLICANS ARE RUNNING ON THE CHANGE SLOGAN!
UNBELIEVABLE.
ARE THEY GOING TO REFORM THEMSELVES???
IT’S LIKE A CAR THIEF SAYING… VOTE FOR ME… AND I’LL CRACK DOWN ON AUTO THEFT!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Hello Aware2u,
Did you ever stop to think about all the people who won’t vote for Obama because he is black? White people voting for McCain because he is white are doing it for all the wrong reasons as you stated putting it in opposition. But once again people who do not only educate themselves in your words and put an end to their racist ways will do what the all racist will do…. not vote for Obama.
In our hard economic times it will be ill fitting to vote on color or gender there are MiLLIONS of people who are voting based on issues that hit home.
What’s uneducated, ignorant and foolish is for one woman to think she can hide her racist tendencies behind a few words most people have those same tendencies you do so it’s okay your voice has been heard.

Posted by: Educated | October 16, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Ohh Wow! was I shocked when I heard Obama reveal that he was only 8 years old a baby so to speak …when that guy they linked him to…did terroism…wow that’s 4O Years ago!
Obama grew up and met him later.
Christ himself walked,and mixed himself with the sinners came for the sinners and they hated him for it..so this is no surprise when people in this world do the same.
Now if this guy was still going around blowing things and people up and Obama was still strongly associating himself with him..like buddy buddy then there would be something to scrutinise him about in reality,but NO this is not the case..Obama has even disassociated himself from the guy .
Ohh It’s a real shame when people in politricks only look for dirt so they can win…even if it is far from the real truth of things.
I live in Europe and I can tell you all in America..we out here so many of us…are rooting strongly for the only man now..who can pull America out of this trouble you are falling into in many ways and believe me… we can see that God has got his Back..OBAMA all the WAY!!
The more Negative the more he rises.
God bless President OBAMA!!!

Posted by: Alley | October 16, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

What’s up with this “JOE” the plumber,he’s not licensed and he doesn’t make more than $250,000 a year.What ever was is motive for asking the question he asked doesn’t hold any water.Under Obama plans we would be way better off.Go Obama/Biden!!! victory is ours,go out there people and vote!!!.

Posted by: RONALD BABBITT | October 16, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

No matter which of these steaming piles ends up winning, get back to me in two years and tell me just how much the guy who was elected still looks like the guy running for office. I see a major disappointment on the horizon for some.

Posted by: Beelzebub | October 16, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Our taxes will decrease under the leadership of Sen. Obama before they will with John McPain.

Posted by: Mary L | October 16, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Mr Reality,
I totally agree with you.
I’m sick and tired of these liberal celebs.
Recently Justin Timberlake and his girlfriend also sing raps for Obama.
I just stop watching Ellen recently.
Look at their own lives!

Posted by: Fakebama | October 16, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

John McPain’s comment that he is not Bush meant nothing!! He’s Bush’s twin brother, in other words; he is just like him. There will be no change under his leadership.

Posted by: Mary L | October 16, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

These McPain and Falin followers are so Racist!!! They can’t give credit where credit is due. John McPain is over the hill and is not in any position to run for president of the United States. Face the facts!! That’s
the Real Deal…

Posted by: Mary L | October 16, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

Joe the plumber is a fake plumber!!! I don’t even know why they wasted air-time on him, he’s no one of importance. And who cares how he votes?

Posted by: Mary L | October 16, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

“FACT: In history… the taller presidential candidate most often won the presidency.”
Such “Shallowness’ !!!
No wonder so many want to think Obama (Cho Mama) is Qualified.
They make their mind up on Sound Bites, Video Bytes, their Little friends ‘cliqueie’ opinions, and their Emotions.
No wonder all the youngsters like O’bama. He is young, he played basketball. He will be our ‘Party President’.
‘Partea’ Everyone !!
‘Partea’………………

Posted by: Mr Reality | October 16, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Owes back taxes, owes the local hospital, unlicensed, works under the table, yeah, he sounds right up McCain”s alley alright, as fake as a three dollar bill. The most outrageous thing about Joe the Plumber is the idea that he could ever scrape together enough to buy a business that would net over $250,000 a year. This is just another gimmick John, we”re not buying this time. You fooled us with Palin and now you want to do it again. Have you no shame?

Posted by: JR | October 16, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Oh yeah,,he disasscociated with Ayers…
so Mr Wright, his other pastor..all of them.
That his judgment, wake him up for him.

Posted by: Fakebama | October 16, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Mr. Reality and Fakebama — Get used to it. Your times past. You’re history. It’s time for a younger, smarter and more attuned administration in Washington that doesn’t pray on peoples’ fears and ignorance. Singe the fringe!!!

Posted by: sohelpmegod | October 16, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Now that’s what I call just plain Stupidity.(RE:Mr Reality)
REALITY OVER CHECK!!
Anyone even dumb enough should be able to see just how much a LEADER and not a follower Obama really is…he is a real Hero..a real role model for children to look up to.
(Mc Cain must secretly want to be just like him as we can see just how he is being even inspired to do more because of Obama)
When he (obama)was a child when asked what he wanted to be…you can bet he said..I want to grow up to be THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
How many people remain on track like that…to go through school,grow up..remain focused so deep in belief..to get to this place where the Lord has clearly lead him to be?
I tell you not so many.
Which is what makes his so very OUT-STANDING right now…He knew exactly what he wanted to be…and this is where he is trying to be right now.
I applaude you Mr. OBAMA!!
You are trully a magnificent Creation…no matter what the negatives say.
YOU OBAMA HAVE ALREADY MADE HISTORY!!!
And you will make even more History very soon..and children all over the world will know your real story and grow up just wanting to be just like YOU!!

Posted by: Alley | October 16, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

“Don’t’ get cocky” ?? What presidential candidate says that weeks before an election? That guy has a major case of narcissism and is a major egomaniac. Good luck folks, if he gets in.

Posted by: msa123 | October 16, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

I’ll tell you what happened to this country, they don’t recognize God for who He is. They don’t want the word God used in many places, by now everyone should know this!!! I don’t understand why the subject was even brought up.

Posted by: Mary L | October 16, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

I Still think OBAMA should appoint
McCain as Ambassador to Iraq… for say
50 make it 100 Years Justice served
UP 24/7/365

Posted by: Anita Yova | October 16, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

“Don’t’ get cocky” ?? What presidential candidate says that weeks before an election? That guy has a major case of narcissism and is a major egomaniac. Good luck folks, if he gets in.
Posted by: msa123 | Oct 16, 2008 6:08:11 PM
The one that is going send McCain/Palin to the Smackdown Hotel on November 4th!

Posted by: Jwench | October 16, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Please Americans look beyond Obama’s skin color and look at amazing plans he has for the future of this country.McCain can not bring about the change that this country needs.So people go out there and vote for the right man for the job,put your country first not your ego.Go OBAMA/BIDEN

Posted by: Ron48 | October 16, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

“Please Americans look beyond Obama’s skin color and look at amazing plans he has for the future of this country.”
We get it comrade.
“While there are many theoretical and practical differences among the various forms of Marxism, most forms of Marxism share these principles:
a belief that capitalism is based on the exploitation of workers by the owners of the means of production
a belief that people’s consciousness of the conditions of their lives reflects the dominant ideology which is in turn shaped by material conditions and relations of production
an understanding of class in terms of differing relations of production, and as a particular position within such relations
an understanding of material conditions and social relations as historically malleable
a view of history according to which class struggle, the evolving conflict between classes with opposing interests, structures each historical period and drives historical change
a belief that this dialectical historical process will ultimately result in a replacement of the current class structure of society with a system that manages society for the good of all, resulting in the dissolution of the class structure and its support (more often than not including the nation state) “

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Alaska & Texas should be their own Republic…. and removed from under the umbrella of the United States. Then Bush and Palin and their extreme right republican supporters can have their own country to destroy.

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Obama inspires me. In times that I lose faith in people, because of humans being intolerant to each other, because of the greedy nature of corporations and dishonest politicians. I do realize he is not perfect. But he gives me hope that things will change for the better in America. I hope he wins for the good of the country.

Posted by: AlomaGirl | October 16, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

McCain/Palin 2008
McCain is the honest one, the most educated, he has the most knowledge and experience, only he can make the economy going again.
Obama is an empty suit tih a shady past and a zero record.

Posted by: james | October 16, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

The flush of victory will soon fade as the realization that you were used to once again help a run of the mill politician and their entourage achieve their own personal goals. Some of you need to get a different crayon and dare to color outside the lines for once. If you put as much effort into making viable a 3rd, or even 4th party as you do in voting against something, (republicans, any republicans this time it was the Democrats a few years ago) then you would be doing something to create real change in Washington DC. You will never believe it untill you experience it apparently, but anything that comes from either the Republicans or Democrats will not be even close to what they claimed it would be when they were selling it to you and in four or eight years, the party in power will again be “punished” by being voted out of office for the other party. Some change. But don’t believe me, experience it for yourselves.

Posted by: Beelzebub | October 16, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

Enough of the ACORN-AYERS bs. McCain had his own ties to ACORN in the past. He was the Keynote speaker.
“As recently as February 20, 2006, Senator McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN-sponsored Immigration Rally in Miami, Florida at Miami Dade College – Wolfson Campus.”
You can find the story at Marketwatch. I’d post the link but it keeps getting removed.
If you want to bring up Ayers, let’s discuss the following :
US Council For World Freedom
Timmons, McCains’ Transition Chief
Not one lame Republican has explained those two to me. Why is that?

Posted by: Jwench | October 16, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Plus Obama would turn US economy into a socialist economy, he would destroy all middle class business and with it all of its jobs.
The Democrats should be ashamed to have run the most negative ads in history, the mainstream media too participating in that and by constantly running down intelligent & candid Alaska governor Palin.
McCain/Palin 2008!

Posted by: james | October 16, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Alomagirl: “Obama inspires me. In times that I lose faith in people, because of humans being intolerant to each other, because of the greedy nature of corporations and dishonest politicians.”
I find it very hard to believe that when you lose faith in people, you turn to and believe a pure politician for inspiration. Are you kidding me? Your source of inspiration gave less than 7% of his adjusted gross income to charity in 2006 and in the area of 1-5% in years prior to that. When he was involved in community service, he was also working with the questionable people we have all heard about. How can a man who doesn’t walk the talk inspire you? I’m just curious.

Posted by: msa123 | October 16, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

The Democrats should be ashamed to have run the most negative ads in history, the mainstream media too participating in that and by constantly running down intelligent & candid Alaska governor Palin.
McCain/Palin 2008!
Posted by: james | Oct 16, 2008 6:39:35 PM
Excuse me? Have you seen how many negative ads and statements have come out of the McCain camp? Palin intelligent? Where do you people pull this stuff out of? Never mind I think I know.

Posted by: Jwench | October 16, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

THAT’S Great B..I like what you wrote here.
This shows that OBAMA is the One with the Great Vision..he sees far into the future..something which is opponent is not able to do right now.
A great VISIONIST and an INSPIRATION to many all around the world.
Not many can stand as he can…whether he was short, tall or whatever..it still won’t make a difference to the great person he is inside.
No matter who thinks he is a liar etc..we are all imperfect..we all have faults and make wrong choices sometimes.. but who ever stands up and says he doesn’t have any..they need to go do some real soul searching.
OBAMA…
He’s Cool, Calm and Collective.
So chill…he will Win… he is a born winner,he can make a difference in American politics if and when given the chance.
Bush for sure will leave him with a very hard load to carry,with all the wasteful spending etc..but I am certain with the lord’s help he will shoulder it through and through.

Posted by: Alley | October 16, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Dont worry James. Obama has accomplished nothing of substance to date, what makes you think he’ll get anything more done in office? He’s just full of alot of hot air and is trying to be everything to everyone… he knows if he says he’ll cut taxes for 95% of Americans, distribute the wealth around, and promises health care for all that they will fall for it hook line and sinker. And many have lol

Posted by: msa123 | October 16, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

What a lousy argumentation the Bush argument of the Democrats is. McCain is no Bush and does absolutely not agree with him. He is far more liberal and has a completely different opinion on Finance Policy. Plus a different opinion on Foreign Policy, I can’t remember that Bush was medalled by the peace medal in 2006 of the Munich conference on Security for peace by dialogue. Americans are not stupid, and therefore you will see who will win the elections:
McCain/palin 2008.

Posted by: james | October 16, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

What a lousy argumentation the Bush argument of the Democrats is. McCain is no Bush and does absolutely not agree with him. He is far more liberal and has a completely different opinion on Finance Policy. Plus a different opinion on Foreign Policy, I can’t remember that Bush was medalled by the peace medal in 2006 of the Munich conference on Security for peace by dialogue. Americans are not stupid, and therefore you will see who will win the elections:
McCain/palin 2008.
Posted by: james | Oct 16, 2008 6:48:00 PM
Explain then why he voted 97% of the time for GWB if he is no Bush.

Posted by: Jwench | October 16, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

There are 19 days to go. Everyone supporting Obama needs to keep working all the way up until Nov.4…making sure that we get to the polls and we get our families to the polls. This is the single most important any of us is being asked to do.
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: francheska ;-) | October 16, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

The 250,000.00 figure is no accident, a few years back I remember the number at which people weren’t paying their share was closer to 75,000. It has moved upwards to bring on board the middle class, and it has worked as most are well below that obviously, and the number allows a lot of room before it would ever impact even those who hope their financial situation improves. But, once elected and “circumstances” “change”, watch that number drop. What’s the old joke about being able to tell if a politician is lying? His lips are moving. Anyone remember George “Read my lips” Bush senior?

Posted by: Beelzebub | October 16, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

I laugh when Republicans say that Obama has run more negative ads or that he is a Socialist. Are they forgetting the Karl Rove Playbook–Defeat your enemy by tearing him completely down. Democrats could only smarten up after two straight elections of those tatics. Also, we are ALL Socialist RIGHT NOW. Why? Because of the $700 Rescue Plan (Wall Street Bailout. Socialism involves a shared risk. A few people made money giving out risky loans at high interest rates, but, all of us are sharing the cost of propping up the economy.

Posted by: francheska ;-) | October 16, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

There are 19 days to go. Everyone supporting Obama needs to keep working all the way up until Nov.4…making sure that we get to the polls and we get our families to the polls. This is the single most important any of us is being asked to do.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: francheska ;-) | Oct 16, 2008 6:57:47 PM
I was a staunch Hillary supporter who said I would never vote for Obama. Now I have seen that he will be better for this country I am behind him 100%. We can’t afford John McCain to get in the WH.

Posted by: Jwench | October 16, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

New Hampshire was stolen by someone in support of Hillary.
Depending on what type of voting equipment was used in a precinct determined who won that precinct.
The chances of this being coincidental are off the charts.

Posted by: Kevin Schmidt | October 16, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

New Hampshire was stolen by someone in support of Hillary.
Depending on what type of voting equipment was used in a precinct determined who won that precinct.
The chances of this being coincidental are off the charts.
Posted by: Kevin Schmidt | Oct 16, 2008 7:19:20 PM
What? Yet another conspiracy in the making….hmmmm

Posted by: Jwench | October 16, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Are any of you old enough to recall Russia when it was a socialist country? I remember seeing people in long lines, standing in the freezing cold and snow to use their vouchers to get toilet paper or bread!
Socialism is not what sensible, sane, informed people want and I resent you Obama puppets dragging the rest of us into that black hole of poverty with you!

Posted by: LadySmith | October 16, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Don’t forget the possibility of Palin becoming President!… That woman is NOT qualified to be VP let alone President! Top republican Chuck Hagel said so himself!
VOTE OBAMA!… AND TELL PALIN/MCCAIN “THANKS… BUT NO THANKS” ON NOV 4TH!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Get the fact!
Last night one the tv station aired check the fact after the debate.
Obama has been running more negative campaign many times compare to McCain.
Don’t just shout out the lies!

Posted by: crisis08 | October 16, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Are any of you old enough to recall Russia when it was a socialist country? I remember seeing people in long lines, standing in the freezing cold and snow to use their vouchers to get toilet paper or bread!
Socialism is not what sensible, sane, informed people want and I resent you Obama puppets dragging the rest of us into that black hole of poverty with you!
Posted by: LadySmith | Oct 16, 2008 7:24:41 PM
“Step into the Light Carol Ann”(Poltergeist)
Newsflash! We have already been drug into that black hole you speak of.

Posted by: Jwench | October 16, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

“Socialism is not what sensible, sane, informed people want and I resent you Obama puppets dragging the rest of us into that black hole of poverty with you!”
You’re not very bright are you? McCain also recently voted for th $700 billion socialist ‘bailout’… I mean “rescue package”
He also said he would veto any pork laden bill… and that bill had $150 billion in additional pork!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Get the fact!
Last night one the tv station aired check the fact after the debate.
Obama has been running more negative campaign many times compare to McCain.
Don’t just shout out the lies!
Posted by: crisis08 | Oct 16, 2008 7:27:18 PM
Who was that? Fox news…lol

Posted by: Jwench | October 16, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

“Alomagirl: “Obama inspires me. In times that I lose faith in people, because of humans being intolerant to each other, because of the greedy nature of corporations and dishonest politicians.”
I find it very hard to believe that when you lose faith in people, you turn to and believe a pure politician for inspiration. Are you kidding me? Your source of inspiration gave less than 7% of his adjusted gross income to charity in 2006 and in the area of 1-5% in years prior to that. When he was involved in community service, he was also working with the questionable people we have all heard about. How can a man who doesn’t walk the talk inspire you? I’m just curious. ‘
Please forgive them for they know not what they do.

Posted by: Mack | October 16, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Obama spent more money on ads… most of them with a positive message saying what he will do for the American people. The others were in response to McCain’s onslaught of negative ads.
McCain/Palin rallies remind me of KKK rallies or witch hunts! Standing around with pitchforks!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Jwench,
It’s NBC.
face it!

Posted by: crisis08 | October 16, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

i think people are fed up with the Corrupt Consertives, people want change not more of the same old Bush Policies that have Failed!
Obama 08′

Posted by: Matt.G | October 16, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

The American people deserve to hear from Palin as to why she didn’t say a word to rebuke the hateful, pathetic and degrading comments made at rallies featuring her, such as when someone in the crowd called Obama a terrorist, someone else shouted, “Off with his head” and others suggested he is a traitor.

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Sen. John McCain’s vice presidential running mate has been running around the country, firing up her — yes, her, and not necessarily McCain’s — loyal supporters by blasting Sen. Barack Obama for “palling around with terrorists” and demanding that the American people know exactly when he learned of the past of 1960s radical William Ayers.
She has stoked the crowds by saying, “This is not a man who sees America the way that you and I see America.” We all know what that is designed to do: Portray Obama as a foreigner who isn’t as American as she. Or you. Or Joe Six-pack, the hockey mom, soccer mom, Wal-Mart mom, NASCAR dad and the other coded words she uses regularly.
But what is truly pathetic is that Palin talks tough, but is really scared of facing her own issues.
Since she is good at proclaiming that the American people need to know who Barack Obama is — an attempt to paint him as a shady figure who might occupy the White House — the American people deserve to hear Palin answer if her husband, Todd, a former member of the Alaska Independence Party, agreed with its founder, who wanted to secede from the union.
Is there anything more anti-American than wanting to sever ties with the country?

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

McCain is a rich, angry ol’ man with a bucket list. On that list is to be President of the United States. The republicans got us into this mess don’t they don’t deserve another 4 years…America can’t take another 4 years!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

The head of Sen. John McCain’s transition team, power lobbyist William Timmons, was involved in a lobbying effort on behalf of SADDAM HUSSEIN in the early 1990s “to ease international sanctions against his regime.”

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

“It’s a lie. Secret Service said that it never happened. The Messiah has lied once again. ”
It’s not a lie… what was it brought up in the debate last night??? It’s FACT.

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

If McCane has an ounce of self-respect left, he will render a public apology to the American People – Republicans and Democrats – for the racist hate-filled dangerous divisive demagoguery of his campaign. The McCain we see on the campaign trail is not the McCain that many once admired, if not for any other reason, his service in the US Armed Forces and the years of his life he had to sacrifice as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. My Republican friends are saddened by the fact that McCain in a desperate attempt to win the presidential election at all costs, has irrevocably tarnished his own reputation and the once great Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln. I personally don’t think that McCane has much of reputation to tarnish – other than perhaps the carefully crafted public persona McCain has created for himself. The reality, given his ties to criminals like Gordon Liddy (of Watergate notoriety, an advocate of domestic terrorism), his cosy relationship with Cuban terrorists, and his and his wife Cindy McCain’s intimate connections with organized crime, is much uglier.As for Sarah Pallin, David Brooks, a dyed-in-the-wool Bill Buckleyite conservative is right on the mark when he called Sarah Palin “a fatal cancer to the Republican Party”. In other words, the Republican party has a deadly case of SARAH PALINOMA. If the Republican Party does not want to lose all those decent Republicans who are getting disgusted with McCane-Palin candidacy, and as a result, get discarded in the dustbins of history, it needs to denounce the McCain-Palin candidacy – and do what is right: withdraw the McCain-Palin GOP ticket from the 2008 presidential election. After that, the Republican Party can focus on tough task ahead – that of cleansing itself from racists, domestic terrorists, and criminals, ultra conservative fascists, and of rebuilding the Republican Party on the principles that the great Republican luminaries like Abraham Lincoln stood for.

Posted by: Jane Sixpack | October 16, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

“Obama wants to increase our taxes and distribute it according to his priorities.”
I ASSUME YOU MAKE OVER $250K?? SOMEHOW I DOUBT IT BEING YOUR POSTING ON HERE. IF YOU DO MAKE OVER $250K… YOU WILL HAVE A 3% INCREASE IN YOUR TAXES.

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Obama just said that he would send 25 Billion dollars to help New Hampshire & the 20 other states facing budget shortfalls so they will not have to raise property taxes or further cut state services. I guess the other 32 states gets no help because their state government knows how to balance a budget unlike you loser states like California & New Hampshire. I am glad that my hard earn tax dolllars are going to bail out a losing corrupt states. No different than the bail out plan for the financial institutions on Wall Street…I am ready for Texas to say the heck with the United States and lets go off on our own…we have oil, manufacturing, a democratic government, ag, crops,

Posted by: 55Mariposa | October 16, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

“I am ready for Texas to say the heck with the United States and lets go off on our own…we have oil, manufacturing, a democratic government, ag, crops, ”
I wouldn’t be surprised… Palin and her husband were members of AIP Alaskan Independence Party that seeks independence from the United States. Basically remove a star from the flag! Bush could be president of Texas and Palin could be president of Alaska!

Posted by: B | October 16, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Just Look at Obama face I can tell he is a liar, he pretend to be calm, cool.
John Mcain and Palin are the real American we can trust.

Posted by: Hellen | October 16, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

AT least OBAMA is thinking humbly and not just gloating like a REPUBLICAN.

Posted by: dar | October 16, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Yeah right. Thank God there isn’t any gloating by the followers of the New Messiah. That’s damn funny. Obviously you haven’t read many of the posts on here.

Posted by: Ha-Ha | October 16, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

Quoting Mr,Judge a book by it’s cover man.
Just Look at Obama face I can tell he is a liar, he pretend to be calm, cool.
John Mcain and Palin are the real American we can trust.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That makes no sense at all and PAILING GO SHOOT PAIL?
SHE AND HER GUNS?? NO WAY!!LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Dear silly guy…if we all could just look at the face of a person and just judge the book by it’s cover…there would not be so many innocent people in jail right now while the real criminals are running free.
Come again!Rethink before you speak and take a look in the mirror..you may see something shocking looking back at you..Yourself.
DON’T JUDGE A BOOK OR ANYONE BY THEIR COVER…YOU WILL BE VERY DISAPPOINTED IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO.BELIEVE IT.
You have got to do much better than that my dear.:)

Posted by: Alley | October 16, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Don’t underestimate the anti-black vote. This could be the biggest upset since Dewey beats Truman.

Posted by: NubTail | October 16, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Anyone believing the race is over is committing a foolish act. There are too many variables that can skew things dramatically. Remember the numbers of people who cast ballots for George Bush – not only in ’00, but again in ’04.
U.S. voters have established they are capable of repeating foolish acts (reference the last paragraph), so do not be fooled into thinking Bush/Palin cannot prevail in November.
Also, let us not forget the race issue. Racism is widespread in the U.S., with many who would not vote for a black candidate – no matter the value of that candidate’s service to them. More’s the pity!
The Obama-Biden campaign cannot afford to let up for even one minute. They must intensify, avoiding miscues and gaffes. Speak to the people in terms to which they can relate. Many have listened – perhaps more will, to ensure we begin a reversal of our devastation, not a continuation of same.

Posted by: saftgek | October 16, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

Hello

Posted by: SheetRocker!!! | October 16, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

When the lot of you finally get to the end of your day, how do you feel?
Are you connected in your heart, or is the road still runnin’ through your hills?
When you tuck your family in at night, do you wish them well? Do you take the time to thank your creator at your wishen’ well, and ask how well did you do!
Did you ever think to get rid of all the stuff- the emails/ magazines/bad habits/ double minded ways that plagues; your time, your spirit, your love, and frustrates your life throughout your days!? You keep your time buisy, but it shows up as waiste!
There is no cause better or greater then- our families, our friends, and our need to show love towards all living creatures… giving thanks from within.
I gave up my email, and shared it per view, it showed me how much stuff could keep the love of life from commin’ through!
If I were a newcommer, out of the blue, would you great me with love, could I trust all of you?
I’m a man called VETERAN, a man of HONOR, a man of TRUTH! I’ve had my regrets, but still I pulled through…
I know I have SISTERS and BROTHERS , still left behind FEELING them POW BLUES! You know if you sit real still you can feel them too, they cry in their dreams, come rescue me- YOU!
I tossed my magazines and feel on my face with tears of discust, pounding the ground kicking up dust, is there no TRUST in all of YOU!
Us VETERANS give our BLOOD, WE give our LIFE, just to protect -even YOU! Can you my reason , I don’t feel you do?
A man of peace, and wisdom…, I sought justice caring for you! There are men and women calling for justice too!
They censor our brothers from speaking the truth, as a wife and family are still hurting too!
In the FACE of FREEDOM, unanswered questions come through, did someone lock the door to justice for the sake of his families name, POW’s still waiting, but, McCain was of no use- he closed the door tighter to hide all the TRUTH!!! POW’s LEFT BEHIND with their families in tears!
WHAT DO I THINK of ALL of YOU,
YOU TALK TOO MUCH, ISN”T IT THE TRUTH
I WAVE MY FLAG AS AN AMERICAN IN FRONT of ALL of YOU / PEACE and LOVE
OBAMA and BIDEN COMMINIG on THROUGH
GUITARIST COLLABORATING with NATALIE MERCHANT, and GIVE US YOUR POOR
MONTREVILLE BLAKELY / VETERAN (RA)

Posted by: SheetRocker!!! | October 17, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

CindyCT.
I’m sure you mean well as do a majority of Democrats. What I’ve always failed to understand is how any person can think it’s fair to take more money from those who are more financially successful just because they are more financially successful. I earn a good living but don’t make close to $250k but that doesn’t mean I can in good conscience believe those who do should have to pay a larger % of their income than me. They already pay more because they make more. It’s that simple. Just because they make 300k more the gov should be able to take a larger portion, really??? How can any true American, understanding why the fathers of our country fought for freedom, believe that is just and fair? We are talking about the equivalent of the school yard bully having his way with other kids because he can. That is what your supporting. Who are YOU to tell someone they should have to pay more than you for the same services. How about we all be responsible for ourselves for a change and stop thinking selfishly and force charity from the those more fortunate. If your parents were poor and scraping by just to eat and somebody came along and took a day’s worth of food and gave it to a couple next door just because that couple has even less money would you think that is fair? I know we are not talking about taxing those who can’t afford to eat but the principle is the same. Your just deciding it’s okay because it “really doesn’t hurt anyone”, and if you don’t see how that kind of thinking hurts us all you will spend your life believing it’s okay to steal from hard working people. It not right to take property from people just because they have it, that is crime. This crime is just one we’ve all, unbelievably, have learned to live with. We must put an end to this irresponsible, selfish, unaccountable way of thinking. Stop expecting the government to fix ALL your problems. By the way, billionaires who talk about taxing the rich more, just like rich actors and musicians, live in a different world than you and I. They don’t know what it means to want to retire and feel secure that they can anymore. Maybe at one time they did, but nobody who thinks taking other people’s money away is justifiable should be allowed to give advice. THEY DON’T GET IT.
Less government is the first step. Accountability and responsibility must be forced on the people just as much as the government. People take advantage of the system (I.E. supporting a candidate who’s only true goal is to gain power so he tells people with less money, “Hey, let’s just take more from those evil rich people and businesses and give it to you”. We should be ashamed of such talk. What’s the point of attempting go get rich if your goverment is just going to redistribute it to the public?
Tax ALL businesses at the same rate. Trust me, they’ll all adjust or better businesspeople will take their place. Abolish the current individual income tax and create a national sales tax. Don’t tax food or fuel, everything else gets taxed. If you don’t want to pay tax it’s easy…save your money. Rich poeple buy more so they will pay more taxes. If a billionaire pays nothing because he buys nothing, Kudos to him (or her) for conserving. It’s a “green” plan because poeple will be forced to conserve or pay the tax for not conserving.
It’s a simple plan but can work. It will never happen if folks like you, Cindy, don’t stop propogating irresponsible acceptance of a morally wrong sense of entitlement that allows so many to think the way do.
Apply your logic to any other scenario and tell me how it’s fair.

Posted by: DonTX | October 17, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Just ask the Tampa Bay Rays if it is over. They thought they were headed to the World Series last night and now they’re stunned. Don’t count your empty Obama promises just yet. He may be ahead in the polls, but those supporters of the leftist illuminati still have a few weeks to keep those Obama lies under wraps.

Posted by: Jeff | October 17, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

Don’t forget the possibility of Palin becoming President!… That woman is NOT qualified to be VP let alone President! Top republican Chuck Hagel said so himself!
VOTE OBAMA!… AND TELL PALIN/MCCAIN “THANKS… BUT NO THANKS” ON NOV 4TH!

Posted by: B | October 17, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

“John Mcain and Palin are the real American we can trust.”
ha ha… give me a break! McCain is all over the place!… he has a new position everyday. His ‘base’ is the top 5% of Americans… the RICH. Republicans have had control for the last 8 years… look at this country now… on the verge of collapse! McCain supported and voted along with Bush the entire time! Our country has been raped and pillaged! McCain is a RICH old man with a bucket list!… on that list… is to be President of the United States! Then… don’t forget Palin… the ‘Hockey Mom’. Top republican Chuck Hagel said himself that Palin is NOT qualified to be VP let alone President! THAT’S A REALLY SCARY THOUGHT!
Vote for your interest… VOTE OBAMA~
And don’t forget the mismanagement of the many issues we faced over the last 8 years. Afghanistan, Iraq, soldiers not having proper equipment/body armor to fight the war they’ve been LIED into, Bin Laden still on the loose, Katrina, the eroding away of our constitutional rights, greed and the loss of deregulation that cause this economic crisis etc., all on the watch and under the control of Bush and the republican party!
VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN!

Posted by: B | October 17, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

This is from today’s Washington Poster Editorial endorsing Sen. Obama for president, the concluding statement: “We think he is the right man for a perilous moment.”

Posted by: leighg1 | October 18, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

This is from today’s Washington Poster Editorial endorsing Sen. Obama for president, the concluding statement: “We think he is the right man for a perilous moment.”

Posted by: leighg1 | October 18, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

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