‘Obamaha’

All this talk of Clinton in 2012 makes me sick if anyone is going to be President in 2012 its Sarah Palin!
The Clinton had their time and shamed the Whitehouse.
Sarah and Todd will honor the WhiteHouse and god.
McCain/Palin 08
Palin 12 16
Palin will be the first woman President!

Obama has a better chance of winning each day because McCain is using distractions rather than telling us how his policies will help.

McCain has more to worry about than Omaha.
Obama is up 8 points on gallup and ahead in half a dozen red states.

0bama needs to redeploy ACORN out of OH, they’ve already successfully stolen that state, and get them to Nebraska.
Yep, ACORN will stoop to signing up felons, dead people and forging anything else to secure Barry’s votes. I just hope they don’t get away with it.

the polls keep shifting .. next time it shifts down for Obama watch as Biden leaves the ticket and Hillary is picked as Veep!!

Uh, “Palin for President”… just because you fantasize about Sarah Palin, that’s not a good enough reason for the rest of us to want her for a VP, let alone President. Plus? God would def not like what you’re doing when you see her on teevee (that’s a sin).

Obama has practiced all the family values right wingers are so hypocrical about. One wife, kindness and goodness
to ll. Now when the chips are down the republican ticket wil attempt to destroy his character. How pathetic and desperate can you get.

obama will never win .i just lied to a pollester i told her i will vote for obama. but i never ever will .so ull all see obama loose.

In Colorado today, Palin seized on the big front-page New York Times story about Ayers and Obama, which concludes that the two men “do not appear to have been close,” to launch her most vicious attack yet on the Illinois Senator — a harbinger of what’s to come.
“This is not a man who sees America as you and I do — as the greatest force for good in the world,” Palin said. “This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country.”
If Palin is going to say this, it is now perfectly legitimate to point out that she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah’s husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years.
As you already know, the group is the Alaska Independence Party, which sees as its ultimate goal seceding from the union. Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska.
And though Sarah Palin herself was apparently not a member of this group, there’s no doubt that she repeatedly courted this secessionist organization over the years. In 1994, Palin attended the group’s annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News’ Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group’s 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.
The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here’s what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.”
He also said this: “And I won’t be buried under their damn flag. I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”
Vogler has also said: “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”

I know Jake and all the other right wingers are mad about these polls LOL!!!!! Now your going to the Karl Rove playbook huh McCain? Hey you oughta’ ask Hillary how well that worked. If you spend you time talkin’ about Obama and less about how to fix the problems with this nation the lead is going to increase McCain so PLEASE GO AHEAD and bring up Rezko and Ayers PLEASE!!!!! You are giving us the election. Thank you. Also I wonder what McCain will have to talk about in the last two debates McCain.

Jake, can you do a story on the Obama Youth. The videos all over the web that show young people in camo, chanting Obama, reciting some sort of creed. It’s quite frightening. Can you look into them to see if they’re true or false?

I hope Obama continues to lead in the polls, just as Kerry did in 2004. Then, perhaps people will realize that polling 1300 people is just not the same as 130 million people actually at the polls. McCain will win.

What are Whirlpool and the McCain campaign have in common?
Both can spin all day long!
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What an ostrich and the Republicans have in common? Let me guess!
An ostrich bury its head in the sand and pretend everything is fine.
Republicans do the same and follow McCain!
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John McCain is desperate to be elected President! He votes in favor of the stupid War to Iraq where thousands of brave American soldiers has been killed and injured. Then he couldn’t even vote on the veteran’s bill.
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McCain is desperate to be a President! He doesn’t see the disaster of Iraq coming when he vote in favor of War .He support deregulations and then argue about the circus of Wall Street !
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What you can say about his judgment? Oh just a minute he said the fundamentals of the economy are strong .Probably he was thinking about the family Business!****************************************
The last days of the campaign confirmed that McCain -Plain are the most inadequate people to run this country.
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Now McCain can snooze tight. Obama can answer the 03.00 am call any time!
Rebublicans can spin like wash machine all day long! The truth is
Senator McCain past actually impairs him from to be flexible and confront the future with open mind. .Senator Obama foreign policy is moderate but also smart. That helps to keep our friends near, and or foes nearer!

Here’s the key details:
In March, 2008, Sarah Palin recorded a video welcoming the convention of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party (AIP), saying “we have a great promise to be a self-sufficient state, made up of the hardest working, most grateful Americans in our nation.”
In October, 2007, Dexter Clark, the AIP’s vice chairman, was recorded on video saying that Palin had been a registered member of the AIP before switching to the GOP to be viable.
In the same video, Clark says “the Federal goverment is just plain a monster” and “we don’t say we are Americans, we say we are Alaskans.”
Clark’s comments were delivered at “The Second North American Secessionist Convention” in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
AIP’s motto is “Alaska First. Alaska Always.”

I’m pretty sure I heard that if the election went to the House, each state delegation gets only one vote. That would explain why the Obama campaign doesn’t want it to go there, not some implied ‘legitimacy’ issue. We all saw how little importance legitimacy has in the last two elections.

Emm,
Innocent? McCain was reprimanded by the Ethics Committee and admitted that what he did was wrong.
Rube.

Emm, you’re right. Keating Five is important. Especially since it really happened, whereas a relationship between Obama and Ayers did not.
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Way back in the late 1980’s there was a similar banking scandal involving billions of taxpayer dollars, that time in the savings and loan industry. Eventually, scores of small thrift banks failed and the government ended up creating a special unit to buy up toxic debt and slowly over years salvage what they could and get rid of the rest.
The reason why it’s topical now isn’t just because the federal government is using a similar rescue model to bail out Wall Street but also because of presidential nominee, John McCain’s involvement both then and now.
Back then, the bank at the center, Lincoln Savings and Loan, was a subsidiary of American Continental Corporation and was owned by Charles H. Keating, Jr., a prominent real estate developer who was eventually found guilty of 73 counts of wire and bankruptcy fraud and sentenced to 12 years and 7 months in prison. He served only 50 months before the conviction was overturned on a technicality.
Wrapped up in the debacle were a series of unusual meetings two years before the collapse between banking regulators and five prominent US Senators, including John McCain. The meeting was at the behest of Keating who was calling in chits to get the regulators to back off of the ill-fated Lincoln. The regulators who were present would later say how much they were intimidated by the entire proceeding and Lincoln ended up with a little more time before eventually imploding.
The Senate Ethics Committee held hearings over 23 days in November of 1990 to investigate the meetings and the Keating Five, including McCain, as they came to be known. There was a good slap on the wrist passed out to all concerned and the taxpayers ended up with the billion dollar savings and loan hangover. Trading cards were briefly sold displaying Keating with each of the Senators.
During that time, it also came out that the Keating Five had accepted campaign contributions from Keating topping $300,000 with McCain receiving the lion’s share. McCain had also made at least nine trips with his family at Keating’s expense at a cost of over $13,000. Not all of it was reimbursed by McCain until after Lincoln was in serious trouble. And in 1985, a year before the meeting between the regulators and US Senators, McCain’s wife Cindy and his father in law invested over $350,000 in a shopping mall development with Keating. None of it was in any way criminal, just a question of judgment.

Thanks for the clarification, jc.

John Sidney McCain
Sidney is a girls name!
“John Mccain isn’t a natural born Citizen”-Ron Paul
University of Arizona law professor says McCain is ineligible to be president. The law that made children born to US citizens in the Panama Canal zone was not passed until after McCain was born, therefore he was not a “naturally born” citizen as the US Constitution requires.

Josh Marshall on AIP:
If Palin is going to say this, it is now perfectly legitimate to point out that she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah’s husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years.
As you already know, the group is the Alaska Independence Party, which sees as its ultimate goal seceding from the union. Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska.
And though Sarah Palin herself was apparently not a member of this group, there’s no doubt that she repeatedly courted this secessionist organization over the years. In 1994, Palin attended the group’s annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News’ Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group’s 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States…
McCain apologists will argue that Sarah Palin was not a member of this group. But Obama wasn’t a member of any Ayers anti-American group, either. And again, Palin repeatedly courted the AIP, and her husband was a member for years.

In 1995, McCain sent birthday regards, and regrets for not attending, to Joseph “Joe Bananas” Bonano, the head of the New York Bonano crime family, who had retired to Arizona. Another politician to send regrets was Governor Fife Symington, who has since been kicked out of office and convicted of 7 felonies relating to fraud and extortion.

For a guy campaigning on family values, John McCain has broken up a lot of marriages.
When he met his first wife (a swimsuit model), she was married to another man. After breaking that marriage up, she stuck by him loyally as he went off to war and was a prisoner for 5 and a half years. When he returned to America, though, he found out that she had been in a car wreck and wasn’t as pretty.
So he had a series of affairs, by his own admission, and dumped his wife and adopted family for a younger, very rich blond (now Cindy McCain.) Cindy, the daughter of a wealthy Budweiser beer distributor, was addicted to prescription narcotics and even stole hard drugs from a medical charity that she ran.
In February, 2008, the New York Times ran a big article about the unusually close relationship between John McCain and a young telecommunications lobbyist named Vicki Iseman (who looks uncannily like Cindy McCain did when SHE was 25). They became so close that his staff, convinced they were having an affair, confronted both McCain and Iseman, telling them to back off.
Now, a lot of people have criticized the Times for hinting without actually saying that McCain had sexual relations with that woman. But really, it doesn’t matter. It’s a matter of record that he accepted money and favors from her, spent a lot of time for her, and did favors for her clients.
Among other things, McCain wrote two letters — from a draft provided by Vicki Iseman — to the head of the Federal Communications Commission — which was way out of line, since McCain headed the Senate Commmerce Committee, which controls the FCC. McCain’s pressure was so outrageous that, even though McCain was in charge of funding his commission, the FCC commissioner wrote a letter back rebuking him for his interference, at the height of McCain’s “ethics in government” campaign.
So, was McCain sleeping with her, hoping to sleep with her, or being subconsciously manipulated by a cute young woman? It doesn’t really matter. He was being led by his groin into ethical violations. Let’s face it, he was 64 at the time and is 72 now.

Aaaaand Andrew Sullivan on….
McCain-Palin’s Desperate Attempt To Stop Troopergate
They’ve now made an emergency appeal to the state Supreme Court to prevent the issuance of a report on the abuse of power by Sarah Palin in trying to get her ex brother-in-law fired from being a state trooper. The resistance to transparency is coming from an out-of-state entity:
Texas-based Liberty Legal Institute and Anchorage attorney Kevin Clarkson, representing the group of anti-investigation legislators, filed the emergency appeal.
“The plaintiffs and Alaskans will suffer irreparable harm if the investigation at issue continues and if the resulting investigative report issues as planned on Oct. 10, 2008,” they wrote in their appeal.
I see no reason why candidates for the highest offices in the country should shut down legitimate legislative investigations into their alleged abuse of power, started long before they were such candidates. In fact, I see very good reason for American voters to know what the Alaska legislature made of Palin’s ethics before they get to vote in November. But as we know, John McCain believes in minimal transparency and maximal secrecy. At least he has since Sarah Palin was pickd for his veep.

Someone needs to talk about McCain’s involvement with the Keating 5…the group that brought down the Savings and Loan Industry about 20 years ago. His financial advisor, Phil Gramm, helped do the same to Wall Street and now McCain wants to do the same for our Health Care Industry.
It’s time for a change. It’t time for integrity. It’s time for Obama/Biden

Evangelicals oppose gambling. Many anti-gambling groups are based in conservative evangelical churches.
The gambling industry as such is immoral. Compulsive gambling is a sin.
John McCain is a compulsive gambler.
McCain loves to play craps (dice), at the $15 dollar minimum-bet tables if not higher. This has been confirmed by his top campaign aides over the years (Mark Salter and John Weaver). His longtime friend Wes Gullet says they would play in Vegas for 14 hours at a time, (10am to midnight), and that McCain is superstitious, blowing on the dice and such.
Therefore, McCain is a sinner.
True Evangelicals don’t vote for a compulsive gambler. They won’t vote for McCain.

“True Evangelicals don’t vote for a compulsive gambler. They won’t vote for McCain.”
Oh yes they will. Plus they’ll pray for him to boot! :)

The McCain/Falin campaign “Might” try telling the truth on the trail….bet that would bring in more votes than trying to play a game of chess against Obama’s team…..we ALL (even the Republicans) know where the brains are when you compare the 2 campaign teams. Sad John McCain had to saddle himself with such a poor advisors group and an idiot for a VP. It caused this Republican to vote Democratic for the first time in 30 years.

Sarah Palin was an avowed young earth creationist, according to Philip Munger:
“Among other things, she declared that she was a young earth creationist, accepting both that the world was about 6,000-plus years old, and that humans and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. I asked how she felt about the second coming and the end times. She responded that she fully believed that the signs of Jesus returning soon “during MY lifetime,” were obvious. “I can see that, maybe you can’t – but it guides me every day.”
Let’s keep this nuthead at a safe distance from the White House and the nukes.

Palin will never be president NEVER….McCain sure can pick bimbos….She does not speak the truth and knowing her when the fog comes in and she can’t see Russia she will probley hit the atomic bomb button….That is about as stable as she is.

We should all demand Obama’s birth certificate.
Cough it up, Obama! Not the phony birth certificate, the real one!
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony

LeeLee07
You are allowed to view barack obama’s Birth Cert. at Obama HQ.
Now explain this :
“John Mccain isn’t a natural born Citizen”-Ron Paul
University of Arizona law professor says McCain is ineligible to be president. The law that made children born to US citizens in the Panama Canal zone was not passed until after McCain was born, therefore he was not a “naturally born” citizen as the US Constitution requires.

Wildlife activists thought they had seen the worst in 2003 when Frank Murkowski, then the Republican governor of Alaska, signed a bill ramping up state programs to gun down wild wolves from airplanes, inviting average citizens to participate. Wolves, Murkowski believed, were clearly better than humans at killing elk and moose, and humans needed to even the playing field.
But that was before Sarah Palin took Murkowski’s job at the end of 2006. She went one step, or paw, further. Palin didn’t think Alaskans should be allowed to chase wolves from aircraft and shoot them — they should be encouraged to do so. Palin’s administration put a bounty on wolves’ heads, or to be more precise, on their mitts.
In early 2007, Palin’s administration approved an initiative to pay a $150 bounty to hunters who killed a wolf from an airplane in certain areas, hacked off the left foreleg, and brought in the appendage. Ruling that the Palin administration didn’t have the authority to offer payments, a state judge quickly put a halt to them but not to the shooting of wolves from aircraft.
Detractors consider the airborne shootings a savage business, conducted under the euphemism “predator control.” The airplanes appear in the winter, so the wolves show up like targets in a video game, sprinting across the white canvas below. Critics believe the practice violates the ethics of hunting.
Last year, 172 scientists signed a letter to Palin, expressing concern about the lack of science behind the state’s wolf-killing operation. According to the scientists, state officials set population objectives for moose and caribou based on “unattainable, unsustainable historically high populations.” As a result, the “inadequately designed predator control programs” threatened the long-term health of both the ungulate and wolf populations. The scientists concluded with a plea to Palin to consider the conservation of wolves and bears “on an equal basis with the goal of producing more ungulates for hunters.”
Apparently Palin wasn’t fazed. Earlier this year she introduced state legislation that would further divorce the predator-control program from science. The legislation would transfer authority over the program from the state Department of Fish and Game to Alaska’s Board of Game, whose members are appointed by, well, Palin. Even some hunters were astounded by her power play.
The legislation would give Palin’s board “more leeway without any scientific input to do whatever the hell they basically wanted,” Mark Richards, co-chair of Alaska Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, wrote.

Seen it, Emm. The witch doctor praying over Palin worries me MUCH more. It reveals one aspect of her personal life, which apparently bleeds over into her political life. The LA Times reported:
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She combined her staff meetings with prayer sessions, Stein said, and upset the town’s chief librarian by asking what the process would be for banning books. According to Stein, bans were never carried out only because “the library director was horrified and stood up to her.”
Geri McCann, who ran the town museum under Mayor Palin, counters: “Sarah brought it up because she knew there was a moral majority in Wasilla who needed their voices heard.”
During an October 2006 debate in the Alaska governor’s race, Palin urged that evolution and creationist ideas be taught together in state schools. “Don’t be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides,” she said.
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Combine all fo that with McCain’s repeated melanoma and what she said about the Vice Presidency during the debat:
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Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president’s agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we’ll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also.
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Seems to me that a few kids marching around as a group, and stating their goals, based on admiration for Obama “Because of Obama, I’m inspired to be the next engineer!” “I’m inspired to be the next fireman!” etc. is actually a good thing, isn’t it? Or is it that it’s a group of black youth that makes some people “uncomfortable?”

Wasilla is the meth capital of Alaska and Alaska is the meth capital of the US. Why don’t the Dems talk about this?
BTW, my high school had almost as many kids in it as Wasilla has citizens, nearly 6,000. I wonder if my ex-principle would be qualified to be VP?

Two weeks after becoming mayor of Wasilla, Palin instituted a gag order on talking to the media for the city’s top employees. Palin denied it was a gag order saying “The department heads appreciated not having to talk to the media.”
So does she, for the media reveal her. For Palin that means: they annoy her.

Asked if she was offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, Palin responded; “Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.”
You betcha! But… hmmm… the Pledge was written in 1892.

I’ve seen McCain’s ‘mini-strokes’ and its obvious that there is something seriously wrong with the left side of his face, but did anyone notice that Palin seems to have the same thing? Maybe this is a virus or something.

“Asked if she was offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, Palin responded; “Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.”
Source please that proves she said this.

In 1997, a Wasilla group called Concerned Citizens asked Palin to appear before them to answer questions, but as the Alaskan Frontiersman wrote, “she doesn’t intend to face the hostile group to answer their questions.”
In Palin’s world, concerned citizens are a hostile group.

“LeeLee07, all you need to know on the BS aboyt Obama’s passport is on the Factcheck site.”
This rumor has been flying around for awhile and I pretty much dismissed it as election year bs. But this week I read that Obama is fighting against a lawsuit having a certified copy of the ‘vault’ certificate from Hawaii be made available. Supposedly the one that is on the internet is the short version.
Now I think more than not that there is nothing to be seen here but I have to admit that I did wonder why Obama would fight this? What’s the big deal? Provide the ‘vault’ certificate and be done with it.
PS: Apparently one of the things that raised interest is that a few of members of Obama’s family in Kenya said that they remember him being born there.

WestCoastMessenger
So much for “Country first.”

Hey “No Such Thing as a Puma”,
You gotta be kidding. I myself despise Limbaugh, have never voted Republican in my life, but will do so for the first time. I have yet to see Obama lift one finger of bipartisanship. He’s blowing smoke and will be as or more ineffective than George Bush. At least I want have a vote for him on my conscience. So yes, many PUMAs out here that backed Hillary. Look for LeeLee’s posts if you want proof. If you’ve been on this blog long enough you’d know who was backing Hillary early on, and is still committed to her leadership.

john,
Palin’s original quote on the founding fathers and the UnderGod oath is still to be found on the eagleforumalaska blogspot. Check it ouT.
The whole questionnaire is there. Another Palin answer: “explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.”
LOL. What about implicit sex-ed programs then?

Wait…
Palin also says: “gambling has shown ill effects on families and as Governor I would not propose expansion legislation.”
Her running mate is a compulsive gambler!
Mr. Las Vegas!
Plus the greatest lobbyist at Senate level, Washington’s own insider for the gambling industry!

“Palin’s original quote on the founding fathers and the UnderGod oath is still to be found on the eagleforumalaska blogspot. Check it ouT.”
Thanks, reefer.

P U M A ‘ s do exist.
Sure, even a few hundreds of them.
Very bitter wives. Plus a few stranded
men.
Who are facing an Obama landslide, thanks to millions and millions of American men and women.
A landslide that btw will be celebrated by three famous Clintons, who work as hard as any true Democrat to make it happen.

Palin also says: “gambling has shown ill effects on families…”
She’s a gamble, so she knows of what she speaks. Can’t wait for SNL.

About the Pledge of Allegiance it might be worth mentioning that the author Francis Bellamy was a socialist and the brother of utopian novelist Edward Bellamy. If I was American I would say, what’s good enough for Bellamy is good enough for me. The original was: “I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” I’m not sure what Secessionist Sarah thinks about the indivisible part though.

Anyone thinking of voting for McCain might want to read a new article in Rolling Stone called “Make Believe Maverick” by Tim Dickinson.
It’s on the Google.
If you can handle it.

I live in the 2nd Congressional District in ME and I’m NOT looking forward to them invading our space. Watching them lie on TV is bad enough.

Oh really trollop? Has Bill Clinton hit the campaign trail yet or is he still waiting for the Jewish holidays to be over?
P U M A
We may tell you will vote for Obama. It doesn’t mean we will do it

matter, I’m not sure I would be picking that scab if your a Dem supporter. Politicians here in NY regularly made campaign stops in churches. It’s almost obligatory.
I have to admit that I always how they got away with that.

A Day in the Life of a P U M A
“Ha! We got two phone calls within about 20 minutes yesterday from Moving Arizona Forward (they want me to vote for BO early so that when the **** hits the fan, we’re stuck with our vote).
Anyway – one was for my husband and the other for me. I let them have it with both barrels AND added Gabrielle Giffords in, too. (There’s a special place in hell for that lady who abandoned HRC before our primary, took money from Obama and Pelosi PAC and then ignored her district and her state and voted on the first ballot .)
It felt sooooo good. The young male was huffy. The other woman started to say something like she agreed and then stopped and told me they would take us off their list.
I said, “I know that’s a very good thing to do!”
P U M A
Yep, we are not voting for the chosen one

Whining about the press is nothing new for Palin. And yet, she claims to have a degree in… journalism.
Alaska newspaper Frontiersman wrote already back in 1997 in an editorial about Palin:
“Wasilla residents have been subjected to attempts to unlawfully appoint council members, statements that have been shown to be patently untrue, unrepentant backpedaling, and incessant whining that her only enemies are the press and a few disgruntled supporters of former Mayor John Stein.”
Poor woman! Her only enemy is the press!

Seriously, these little vignettes “A Day in the Life of a P U M A” are terribly exciting. To read about how you tell people off when they call… masterful writing! How do you stand it, this awesome responsibility and inner strength you must have to muster, when the phone rings?
It’s nothing short of heroic. Bless you and your life’s work… I can hardly wait for the novel.

Obama, who spoke at a rally in Abington, Pa., picked up the flowers before flying back home to Chicago, where he was planning a romantic dinner with Michelle tonight. They married in Oct. 3, 1992 at Trinity United Church of Christ.
Happy Anniversary Barack and Michelle
I knew you would like it.

Palin was an utterly mediocre journalism student. She was too simple for a journalistic career; she only reported sport events once.
And because she failed in journalism, she now hates the media.
Meeting an experienced and succesful journalist, such as Gibson or Couric, must have been a nightmare for her.
Both did a LOT better than she did, with her journalism degree. Both know more about America, politics and the world than she does.
But Palin, she chose lies, manipulation and right wing power over criticism and truth. A perfect GOP’er, an arch foe of the independent press.

A Day in the Life…
Silence. clocks ticking. husband grimaces, . cats. furtive glances out the curtains. dry skin. bitter phone calls. Lifetime for Women movies. tv dinners.

Maybe the crime rate has gone up because of Bush’s bumbled No Child Left Behind policies and falling educational standards that have led to children dropping out.
Perhaps the disastrous economic policies of the current administration that John “I was a POW!” McCain wants to continue. This man wants to give everyone tax credits, but how the heck is he going to fund it without raising taxes for ANYONE, with the economy slowing down?

Hey! It’s Michelle and Barack’s anniversary, like Dem No More says. Let’s take a look at McCain’s marriages from “Make Believe Maverick” in Rolling SStone:
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If heroism is defined by physical suffering, Carol McCain is every bit her ex-husband’s equal. Driving alone on Christmas Eve 1969, she skidded out on a patch of ice and crashed into a telephone pole. She would spend six months in the hospital and undergo 23 surgeries. The former model McCain bragged of to his buddies in the POW camp as his “long tall Sally” was now five inches shorter and walked with crutches.
By any standard, McCain treated her contemptibly. Whatever his dreams of getting laid in Rio, he got plenty of ass during his command post in Jacksonville. According to biographer Robert Timberg, McCain seduced his conquests on off-duty cross-country flights — even though adultery is a court-martial offense. He was also rumored to be romantically involved with a number of his subordinates.
In 1977, McCain was promoted to captain and became the Navy’s liaison to the Senate — the same politically connected post once occupied by his father. He took advantage of the position to buddy up to young senators like Gary Hart, William Cohen and Joe Biden. He was also taken under the wing of another friend of his father: Sen. John Tower, the powerful Texas Republican who would become his political mentor. Despite the promotion, McCain continued his adolescent carousing: On a diplomatic trip to Saudi Arabia with Tower, he tried to get some tourists he disliked in trouble with the authorities by littering the room-service trays outside their door with empty bottles of alcohol.
As the Navy’s top lobbyist, McCain was supposed to carry out the bidding of the secretary of the Navy. But in 1978 he went off the reservation. Vietnam was over, and the Carter administration, cutting costs, had decided against spending $2 billion to replace the aging carrier Midway. The secretary agreed with the administration’s decision. Readiness would not be affected. The only reason to replace the carrier — at a cost of nearly $7 billion in today’s dollars — was pork-barrel politics.
Although he now crusades against wasteful military spending, McCain had no qualms about secretly lobbying for a pork project that would pay for a dozen Bridges to Nowhere. “He did a lot of stuff behind the back of the secretary of the Navy,” one lobbyist told Timberg. Working his Senate connections, McCain managed to include a replacement for the Midway in the defense authorization bill in 1978. Carter, standing firm, vetoed the entire spending bill to kill the carrier. When an attempt to override the veto fell through, however, McCain and his lobbyist friends didn’t give up the fight. The following year, Congress once again approved funding for the carrier. This time, Carter — his pork-busting efforts undone by a turncoat Navy liaison — signed the bill.
In the spring of 1979, while conducting official business for the Navy, the still-married McCain encountered Cindy Lou Hensley, a willowy former cheerleader for USC. Mutually smitten, the two lied to each other about their ages. The 24-year-old Hensley became 27; the 42-year-old McCain became 38. For nearly a year the two carried on a cross-country romance while McCain was still living with Carol: Court documents filed with their divorce proceeding indicate that they “cohabitated as husband and wife” for the first nine months of the affair.
Although McCain stresses in his memoir that he married Cindy three months after divorcing Carol, he was still legally married to his first wife when he and Cindy were issued a marriage license from the state of Arizona. The divorce was finalized on April 2nd, 1980. McCain’s second marriage — rung in at the Arizona Biltmore with Gary Hart as a groomsman — was consummated only six weeks later, on May 17th. The union gave McCain access to great wealth: Cindy, whose father was the exclusive distributor for Budweiser in the Phoenix area, is now worth an estimated $100 million…

Grey Matter: Before you make stupid statements you should understand what you hear and read. When McCain came back from Vietnam he was with for wife and they got a divorce seven years later. He did not meet Cindy at that time. You should have listened to his BIO on TV. And do you think he is the only one who got divorced and remarried. It happens every day. People change and he was away for over five years. And she might have changed after her accident. Aren’t you aware of the fact that crippled people become their own worst enemy by what they say and do. I have seen people in wheelchairs on the bus mean as ever because of their situation.

Mariann Pepitone,
I do not take issue with the divorce itself. I mean, yeah, people may change after such incidents.
What I DO take issue with is that McCain did have an affair with Cindy while he was still married. Actually, he divorced his crippled wife precisely so he could marry Cindy. That’s what I take issue with.
Obama has been faithful to the woman whom he first walked down the aisle with. Biden was sworn in by his son’s bedside after his wife and daughter died in a car accident. He’s remained faithful to Jill ever since he remarried after his wife’s death. He rides the train home very night from DC because he wants to be with his family.

jc: You are so wrong. McCain was a divorced man in 1979. He later met Cindy.

“Obama has been faithful to the woman whom he first walked down the aisle with.”
Yes, where are Barry’s old flames?

jc: I hope Obama does lose. But if he does win he better be sure and have double security. And I mean double.

Marianne Pepitone:
documented in court records, dear. He was married when he applied for a marriage license to Cindy and they were married six weeks after his divorce from Carol. The divorce was finalized on April 2nd, 1980, he remarried in May, 1980.
But you believe in the “reality” that makes you feel good. Because that’s all that counts, right?

marianne
yea Im sick of all these obvious pot smokers who supposedly support Obama… newsflash…. he isnt goignto help you legalize marijuana

What about Cindy’s addiction and her being a drug addicted thief?
Imagine what Republicans would do if that were Michelle Obama’s story. Oh my God…
What a difference the DNC and the GOP make.
Vote for American decency, vote Obama/Biden!

matilda: Get real. Husbands and wives are cheating on each other every day of the week. You can’t be that dumb. And what has a divorce got to do with running the country? Didn’t Clinton cheat on Hillary? But he was one of the best president’s this country had. And Obama is no Bill Clinton. Obama left his brains at Harvard.

I’m not saying that having an affair neccessarily means McCain is a downright rotten man to the core, but it does say something. And it says that his camp has no right to say things about Obama’s moral character when his own has had a lapse.
Same thing with the flag pin. Now, I wouldn’t quantify someone’s patriotism based on whether they wore a flag pin, but seeing how McCain jumped all over Obama for not wearing one.
It’s especially hypocritical when the lapel pin with the American flag on it could be seen pinned to Obama’s lapel, while McCain’s was conspicuously missing. Go look at the photographs of the debate.

stanium, I got 5 emails from various Obamabots. Man the kool aid is pumping hard.

grey matter
… Obama will be a laughing stock… at the very best it will be a 269-269 tie in the electoral college and that will be your worst nightmare because Palin will be VP

The GOP’s dislike of liberals is a pars pro toto; what they hate is America, land of the free.
Bush and Cheney raping the Constitution is what the GOP in the end is all about.

hunk: Cindy’s addiction was pain killers. Did you get the drift? Obama was heavy on cocaine and was heavy on booze in his younger day. I am surprised he isn’t drinking now. Ayers should have had a life sentence for what he did. And three people died in the bombing. Obama get acquainted with Ayers years back and they became friends. Both live in Hyde Park.

sp
my, you have the sarcasm down really well… you will need to learn aloof embarrassment after you lose the election or explain to the obama minions how Palin could possibly be the VP

staniam: I won’t have any fears. The old saying is whatever will be will be. If Obama wins it doesn’t change my life. I voted for Kerry, Bush won and my life and job didn’t change.

Have you noticed it’s Palin out on the stump all weekend? Why? Because McCain doesn’t work weekends. With 30 days to go until election day, he took the weekend off at his home in Arizona.
Does McCain really want to win this thing or not?

grey matter: Hillary didn’t file for divorce because she wanted to save face. But you can imagine what went on behind closed doors. And it wasn’t sweet. Stars are getting married and divorced all the time. Who cares. Its how they run the country not their life. Their life is personal and not the publics to say who should stay married and who should get a divorce. Eisenhower had a sweetheart overseas. Johnson had an affair and so did FDR.

sp: God doesn’t need anyone to speak for him. He can do his own judging about people. To bad Obama didn’t think of that when he was attending a racist, anti-american church for twenty years. And believe me he did not like this country and neither did run of the mouth Michelle.

marianne peppitone
True… the last week in the life of congress proves that…the two incumbents running for re-election in congress and senate in my state voted against the bill… that says something because they are in close races.. the fact is mondy things are goignto tank worse than they already have and our lives wont change that much… weve adjusted to having less money because of the Bushes… and theyve already proven that Obama wont have the money he says he will have for all this new stuff which is just old poltics same stuff they tried in 88 etc … they are wrong when they think its just the personality of the candidate… obama is a mirror of Kerry in 2004

jc: When you work for a hospital you can take their medicines if needed. Its not called stealing its called an addiction. Many people are addicted to pain killers when they have arthritis. Rush was addicted to pain killers also. I have a friend with severe arthritis and takes pain killers. But anyone can become addicted to any medicine. However, a cocaine addiction is not pain killers. That’s what Obama was addicted to and heavy because he stated that on TV. Booze was another problem.

marianne pepitone
Right! All these obamasnots have to do is read Obamas first book its all in there thats what President Clinton said back in the primaries

A Tangled Story of Addiction: Washington Post / Sep 12, 2008
…McCain has said that she became addicted to Vicodin and Percocet in early 1989 after rupturing two disks and having back surgery. She has said she hid her addiction from her husband, Sen. John McCain, and stopped taking the painkillers in 1992 after her parents confronted her. She has not discussed what kind of treatment she received for her addiction, but she has made clear that she believes she has put her problems behind her.
While McCain’s accounts have captured the pain of her addiction, her journey through this personal crisis is a more complicated story than she has described, and it had more consequences for her and those around her than she has acknowledged.
Her misuse of painkillers prompted an investigation by the Drug Enforcement Administration and local prosecutors that put her in legal jeopardy. A doctor with McCain’s medical charity who supplied her with prescriptions for the drugs lost his license and never practiced again. The charity, the American Voluntary Medical Team, eventually had to be closed in the wake of the controversy. Her husband was forced to admit publicly that he was absent much of the time she was having problems and was not aware of them.
“So many lives were damaged by this,” said Jeanette Johnson, whose husband, John Max Johnson, surrendered his medical license. “A lot of good people. Doctors who volunteered their time. My husband. I cannot begin to tell you how painful it was. We moved far away to start over.”
McCain’s addiction also embroiled her with one of her charity’s former employees, Tom Gosinski, who reported her drug use to the DEA and provided prosecutors with a contemporaneous journal that detailed the effects of her drug problems…

jc: When you work for a hospital you can take their medicines if needed. Its not called stealing its called an addiction… Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 5, 2008 12:27:09 AM
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hahahahahahahahaaaaa… really? okay, now i think i understand your method of rationalization.

If you want to understand what is wrong with America, read these posts.Logic, respectful compromise – that makes greatness. We have lost that.

Dan: Yes Go Obama/Biden and don’t look back because if you look you’ll be back and we don’t want you back.

“I’ve seen McCain’s ‘mini-strokes’ and its obvious that there is something seriously wrong with the left side of his face, but did anyone notice that Palin seems to have the same thing? Maybe this is a virus or something.”
Mike: I think you’re on to something. But perhaps it’s only a sign that they’re lying. And in Palin’s case, maybe she’s trying to repress that hokey wink, don’t ya know?

Fact Check – Sorry about the late response.
I thought I responded to you on another thread, but you must have missed it. Here ya go …
“And stop talking BS in the future, please.”
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Ummm, we don’t THINK so!
FactCheck is owned by the Annenberg Foundation which links directly back to William Ayers. That tells you volumes, right there.
Since FactCheck staffers have supposedly seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate and can vouch for its validity, I suggest they give it to Obama so he can hie his bony butt over to the Civil Court in Philadelphia where the lawsuit brought forth by Phil Berg about said birth certificate is pending.
Berg wants Obama to produce his real birth certificate to prove that he meets the citizenship requirements to be President.
Now, you would think that since Obama has produced his valid birth certificate on the internet for viewing by millions of internet customers that he would also produce his valid birth certificate to the court for a prompt dismissal of this case. Not So!
Instead, Obama’s legal team has filed a motion to dismiss. One of the Lawyers filing the motion was Joe Sandler of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reiff, and Young.
If Mr. Sandler’s name sounds familiar it should. He is the Legal Hit Man for the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR is an organization with terrorist ties, and has been as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the Holyland Foundation Hamas Funding trial.
Sandler’s role for CAIR has been to stifle people from telling the truth about Islam. For example, last year he tried to get Jihad Expert Robert Spencer banned from speaking to the Young American Foundation by using a threatening letter. Sandler followed up by threatening columnist Mike Adams for writing about the Spencer incident.
Not only that, but the crooked DNC has once again stepped up to save their boy, they have filed a motion to dismiss on Obama’s case demanding that Obama show his birth certificate.
Would you go to court in order to stop someone from seeing your birth certificate, or would you take it out of your file cabinet and show it to whomever?
“Mr. Berg provides precedents which he argues establish his standing and petitions the Court to deny dismissal and order the defendants to produce the documents in the previously requested discovery.
“The conclusion of Mr. Berg’s brief reads:
Plaintiff served discovery in way of Admissions and Request for Production of Documents, on Defendants on September 15, 2008 and has attempted to obtain verification of Obama’s eligibility through Subpoenas to the Government entities and the Hospital’s in Hawaii.
To date, Plaintiff has not received the requested discovery from the Defendants and two (2) of the locations, which subpoenas were served upon, refused to honor the subpoena.
“for the above aforementioned reasons, Plaintiff respectfully request Defendants Barack Hussein Obama and the Democratic National Committee’s Motion to Dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) be denied and order immediate discovery, including but not limited to: 1) a certified copy of Obama’s “vault” (original long version) Birth Certificate; and (2) a certified copy of Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship; and (3) a certified copy of the Oath of Allegiance taken by Obama taken at the age of majority.
If the Court is inclined to grant Defendants motion, Plaintiff respectfully requests the opportunity to amend his Complaint pursuant to the findings of this Honorable Court.”
Please google on Berg and Obama birth certificate for more interesting facts.
Instead of going to Alaska to find bs on Palin, perhaps the MSM and Obamabots might want to concentrate on finding out the true story of Obama.
Obama – produce your real birth certificate or get out of the presidential race and let someone who can really do the job run.
MSM – what say you???
Fact Check – how is that for bs????
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” – Susan B. Anthony

“There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t support other women.”
EXCUSE ME?
I am a woman myself who personally doesn’t find myself besotted with Palin’s “folksiness”. I find it galling that Sarah Palin charged rape victims for rape kits in Wasilla. I disagree that Roe v Wade should be overturned. I certainly don’t like abortions anymore then you do, but I think women need to be given a choice, and it’s also for their safety.
I support Hillary. I think she’s a fine woman and Senator. I support a woman only if she actually can do the job, and if her views are actually pro-woman. Palin may be a woman, but she has done nothing to fight for the rights of women compared to Joe Biden and Barack Obama.
Biden drafted, wrote and got the Violence Against Women Act signed into law. Obama voted for the Equal Pay Act, while McCain voted against it.

Allegations of John McCain’s gambling problem, as well as his failure to report his winnings (and losses) on his tax returns and Palin’s failure to report her per diem on her tax returns, should be disclosed here.
To report every rumor about Obama and Biden but to ignore the aforementioned that other news sources are reporting about McCain/Palin is reprehensible. What happened to “speaking truth to power”?

Not a woman if you don’t vote for one? Seems a bit sexist to me… Maybe I’m supposed to vote only for a man because I am one? But I guess that logic escapes the skewed version of feminism you propose.
This election is not about gender or race. It’s about getting back to business in DC.

Obama is no more than an everyday Chicago politician. His fundraising, connections and tactics are evidence of this.
The problem is not Obama’s fundraising tactics but the unwillingness of the proper authorities and media to investigate it – can one buy his way up to the white house with bundled money from Bahamas or elsewhere?
It looks like…
If the voters feel there will be change if he is elected, they are fooling themselves ow many facts need to be thrown in your face before you suddenly realize that the “chosen one” is not who you think he is.Neither was Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez.

From what I’ve read, he did not “politically assassinate” anyone. Palmer herself said she was the one who agreed to give up her seat-even if she lost.
McCain seems to be the one engaging in character assassination here-he goes on about Obama’s lack of flag pin and things like that. (Although he was the one who was not wearing a flag pin to debate, not Obama) Insinuated that Obama and Biden were “Sexist” and twisting his words about Palin into that “Disrespectful” ad. He’s the one who had an affair. What I’m trying to say they don’t have a right to judge others like this because they too were not above it.
Like Jesus told the Pharisees whoever had not sinned, to throw the first stone at the prostitute.
McCain/Palin cry sexism too, even if you think Obama cried racism. He has not cried racism, he doesn’t keep emphasising how he’s African-American, but how he’s American. He never said stuff like “The only reason why I don’t have a big lead is because of the Bradley Effect.” He emphasizes unity, that’s why I support him.
I am sorry for the dire straits you aunt is in and her owing you money, and I hope the two of you can get out of this.
There is no need to get personal, however. I have every right to my opinion as much as you do, and that does not mean either of us is stupid or has been smoking or drinking something.

Fair enough. Just saying that maybe 95% of Jake’s posters would simply disappear if they actually researched for themselves before typing, myself included.
We’ve all fallen for this madness of perpetuating rumors. I can’t imagine what kind of stories we’d see if they had internet 200 years ago. “Washington peeked in on Ms. Jones while she was in the outhouse! News at 11.”

“there’s a place in Hell reserved for women who don’t help other women.”
Some of these zealots are so hilarious, I would be laughing if the subject is not so serious.
We have a candidate, 72 years, with a bad temper and doesn’t know a lot of economics.
And we have a a moron as VP candidate. Every critique at her is being handled as sexist.
No economic program except we are mavericks, we cut spending and we lower the tax.
Give me a break…

What the McCain/Palin folks just don’t seem to understand is that no matter what you say, be it 1/2 truth, smear or outright lie, it doesn’t matter….. most of America knows that Bush & Cheney have run the country into the ditch…
Republicans were in charge, and they blew it.
Iraq, Bin Laden still free, Katrina, and the current financial crisis…… and so much more.
Republicans themselves can’t stand the name ‘republican’….. not that they even know who or what republicans are anymore. Your time is coming to and end. McCain and Palin are just further indications of the decay.
The electoral map is turning BLUE..even people who really don’t care about politics understand that purging the government of republicans is the only thing to do.
Watching the panic set in with the McCain campaign is truly revealing. It will be interesting to see how low and ugly McCain & Co. will go.
The years of Republican self indulgence, fear mongering, corruption and fraud is coming to an end. We can only hope that Bush, Cheney et.al will eventually be brought to trial for their many crimes.
Mission Accomplished

I am a Hillay supporter, Hussein OSAMA offended me. I will vote for McCain/Palin. Obama is a Mulim with terrorest associations. He is a threat to the Americans.

I’m sorry Kerry, but you are a stranger to Honesty. You are a stranger to Jesus.

Kris,
you have to be kidding! Nothing has proven the terrorist friends information in error. the relationship is actually solidified more with each passing day. As of late, the annenberg papers from univ of chicago, show a direct extended relationship.
he also has many seedy friends: rezko, auchi, khalidi, ayers, blagojevich, wright, ACORN, johnson, etc.
this man and his wife are NO PATRIOTS. they NEVER talked positively about the country until challenged. No patriot waould say they have never been proud of there country, no patriot wouls stand with arms down and hands together during the national anthem, no patriot would listen to wrights unamerican/racist rants and remain in the church, no patriot would associate in ANY way with ayers, no patriot would go to the 9-11 memorial and toss the rose he carried on the memorial instead of laying it down….bho is NO PATRIOT!

Kris, I can see why you would vote Republican now after supporting Hillary. Your sentence doesn’t make sense just like McPalin. We don’t need your vote. Dum McCain and Dumber Palin.
Those two wants to destroy this country and you will help them do it. Just like those that voted for Bush/Chaney after they ran all those negative ads against intelligent Politicians that would have moved the country forward.
Not this time…We have been bitten once and we will not be bitten twice…Americans are smarter this time around. The dumbest Americans I see right now is McCain and Palin. They are worst than Bush and Chaney and we cannot afford to our country to be led by these illiterates.
ENOUGH!

CLads is a LIAR and a paid McCain blogger! There ate many of them on this blog!
What a shame that Palin can LIE and get away with it!
Shame on America for letting mcCain and Palin do that!
VOTE strongly against Palin! She doesn’t represent WOMEN at all! Let her go to HELL for her blatant LIES!
VOTE for Obama and Biden – they are the REAL AMERICAN heros!

Wow! There’s usually a fair amount of irrational, hateful ranting and raving on this site but some of this stuff’s completely over the top. I guess it’s a preview of what the country will be treated to during the next four weeks.
Lie, distract, divide and distort…the only path left to Republican victory.

To win, Sarah Palin needs to get super-mavericky. If that doesn’t work, she can get super duper mavericky.

I’ve been reading the “heated” debate and discussion and I find it interesting that many believe the issues the country is facing are solely political party related. I do not believe they are. Yes, we currently have a Republican President and yes, we currently have a Democratic majority in the House and Senate so, logically the fault lies, it appears, with both sides. Depending on what issues you feel strongly about may I suggest that you truly research them and not assume that any media are telling the complete truth. For example, I wanted to know what was really in the so called “bailout” bill, so I downloaded a copy and I am looking at all the “earmarks” that have been entered into it. Wow! Let me ask a question…since it was important that we would be led to believe that the “sky was falling” and it would cost around $700B to fix, why tack on millions more dollars we don’t have for other projects? It doesn’t appear that the elected officials (both Dems and Reps)are concerned too much about all the money their are going to suck out of us. So, here’s my take…I appreciate candidates on both sides however, Obama speaks of change and then turns around and picks a well entrenched(SP?)politician who has been in the biz for 35 years approx. How is that real change? Second, McCain does have a history of going against the Republicians which has been confirmed by most media outlets as well as bills he has sponsored. Ironically, he was the media “golden boy” for that reason before he ran for President. Then he picks a complete “outsider” to the Washington system for his running mate. For better or worse that “screams” change. Now with this said, I realize there are other reasons to consider when voting but for me it can be seen as a gamble either way because we don’t know how the candidates will truly conduct themselves once in office. So, here we are about to make history and I pray that regardless of who wins, our great nation will be better for it. Just remember this…a government that is large enough to care for its people is also large enough to control its people and take liberty away.

So senja, I’m assuming that you’re proud of the fact that you lied to a pollster about voting for Obama. So much for family values and honesty.

To ALL Voters,
Obama has been running ads and even speaking about McCain Health Care Plan and MISLED/DISTORTED the plan. Obama and Biden want to leave the voters with the IMPRESSION that they are going to get a $5,000.00 tax CREDIT from McCain even though health insurance cost $12,000.00 per family on average. So, people would ask WHERE is the ADDITIONAL $7,000.00 going come from?
I will EXPOSE the OBAMA deception and lies with the following BREAKDOWN of the McCain plan. I assumed that Obama supporters are INTELLIGENT enough to follow my calculations:
Suppose you get paid $40,000 a year (I’m NOT elistist!) in cash compensation and $12,000 in health insurance. You’re with me so far.
Right now, you ONLY pay federal income taxes on the cash compensation (wages) but NOT the health insurance. Still with me?
Let say that the taxes on your wages is 20%. That means you give Uncle Sam back $8,000 of your wages. That’s is 20% of the $40,000. Still with me. Remember THAT $8,000 TAXES. So you BROUGHT home $32,000 ($40,000 – $8,000). Ok so far?
NOW, McCain Plan:
Your employer keeps paying the PREMIUN, which NOW taxed as INCOME to you. You therefore pay the federal income taxes on $52,000 ($40,000 + $12,000) at 20% which comes out to be $10,400. Still with me?
McCain’s plan gives you a tax CREDIT. I repeat tax CREDIT, not DEDUCTION of $5,000. (against your tax liability). So, instead of paying Uncle Sam $10,400 for taxes, you ONLY pay $5,400. ($10,400 – $5,000). Are you still with me?
Remember that $8,000 taxes earlier. Now, you pay ONLY $5,400 in taxes a SAVINGS/MONEY IN YOUR POCKET of $2,600.
That’s $2,600 you can use for other necessary things.
Here is the NICE thing about this plan.
If you DECIDE to buy your insurance in the OPEN market (competition to lower premium) instead of your EMPLOYER, the result will be IDENTICAL. Since your employer does not care HOW you use YOUR health insurance money as long as total costs are the same. So, instead of paying health insurance premiums, your EMPLOYER pay you the WHOLE thing.
Obama and his coons would try all the DECEPTIONS misinformation, disinformation to scare people WHO do not understand about taxes.
Well, Obama is NOT scaring this one for sure.
As for his health care plan, you will be PICKING up the tabs for EVERYONE whether you want it or not.

Voter In America, thanks for explaining that about the health insurance. But what about if we also pay a deductable?
And how much is decent medical (no dental) coverage for a single person? And how about for a family?
Actually, now I’m wondering if my husband’s employer is ripping us off. They cover his medical but they take out $11,000 yearly in additional monies to have family coverage. Does this sound right?

Looks like Palin/McCain must have held a workshop on re-typing talking points.
Let me try…
God, god, god, god Sarah Palin god, woman, godless liberals, you betcha, gosh dang, wink, lie, lie, healthcare lie, all in the name of god.
How did I do?

Some far left women/men hate and jealous of Gov. Palin and they are toooooooo scared of the Governor, they trash her every day and night.
That is so funny. When some body wrote the Gov will be the President the libs are paranoid. :-)
Ok I add on that.
I’m Libertarian voting McCain/Palin/08
and McCain will be the US President then President Palin.
VIVA Mr. President, President McCain.
VIVA Madame Presidnet, President Palin.
GOD Bless and send you both to the White HOUSE. Amen.

Electoral map looking VERY BLUE….
and….
there’s nothing McSame & Gov. Caribou
can do about it…….
most of the McMuffin Palinoscopy posters here seem to have as big a problem with english as Palin does.

McSame & Gov. Caribou
Posted by: jeru | Oct 5, 2008 4:41:18 PM
Cute! Try and come up with some more.

“VIVA Mr. President, President McCain.
VIVA Madame Presidnet, President Palin.
GOD Bless and send you both to the White HOUSE. Amen.”
OMG,
She will be the international laughing stock of the works. Is she also gona pull this wink wink stuff at Putin.
Or will she starts mumbling some nonsense because Putin annoys her.
Please, go grab another six pack and save us from your blessings.

Americans will wake up in the voting booth….and the polls are never accurate as those on the phone feel intimidated and say they’ll vote for the newbie radical black guy….and go into the booth…..and don’t…..called the Bradley Effect…..so shave off a few points in any poll.
NEVER OBAMA….IT’S ALL ABOUT HIM
McCAIN/PALIN