Obama’s New Attack on Those Who Don’t Want Higher Taxes: ‘Selfishness’

Question for you Jake: Just how great does the disparity of wealth have to get before the USA stops being a democracy?
What, won’t be satisfied until you see bread lines? Don’t worry about the wealthy. That’s what the Wall Street bailout was all about, no? Welfare for corporations and their wealthy shareholders and management has been and will always be alive and well.

McCain/Palin have kept pushing their argument that Obama’s economic policies are far left. Well, the “Economist”, the well-respected, conservative economic weekly, endorsed Obama yesterday.
Who’s the real centrist, folks?

I exist therefor I deserve what you have worked for?

Is Obama being selfish, or something else, when he fails to extend a hand to his aunt, who has lived for years in a housing project in South Boston? Doesn’t she deserve a chance to, a helping hand, from the millionaires in her own family?

All these economic Randists seem to want it both ways. They claim to be concerned about the rights of individuals, but it doesn’t stop them from trying to stack the deck in their own favor. They don’t want regulations and taxes because it inhibits their ability to pillage. Well, when someone pollutes my air and my water, I want to be paid. When someone wants to get wealthy (e.g.Wal-Mart and shareholders) by paying their workers so little they can’t survive, they should be stopped.
We don’t live in a level field free market society and never have. It’s always been tilted towards the wealthy and always will be.

Teddy– the only person that reads “The Economist” is Sarah Palin.

Obama is the selfish one. Look at his pitiful charity donations. Almost nothing and then only to Wright.

Let’s see now…
Under Obama I can stay middle class and have all my needs taken care of…
Or I can work hard and become rich so that I can pay my own way plus be taxed enough to pay everyone elses.
Why would anybody choose working hard?

@ Ray who asks “I exist therefore I deserve what you have worked for?”
Yes, precisely. You are your brothers’ keeper. We exist, so the MORAL and UNSELFISH thing for you to do is live on less and give us more. That way you have what you NEED, but we have what we NEED too.
Not everybody is lucky to have a job — some people can’t work or don’t work. It’s none of your business why, just that if they don’t, or don’t earn as much as you, then we need to “distribute” so there is equality.
That’s what America is about – it’s the REAL American dream!!

Hit the nail on the head. Too many folks bitching about taxes are simply selfish and miserly and don’t want to pay a dime in taxes. I know personally since I have a brother like that. Considers any money given to the given to the government to be wasted money. For example, since he has no kids he can’t understand having his tax dollars spent on education. Wouldn’t matter if the tax rate was .05% he wouldn’t want to pay it. Funny thing is my mom worked in a factory line for over 30 years and my father was a short haul truck driver for over 40 years. They raised five kids but I never heard either bitch about taxes (which were much higher then) yet folks like my brother with far less responsibilities and tons more income bitch constantlt. And of course, he is a die-hard Republican.

Wow, Voter2Be… I hope that’s sarcasm. Please tell me it’s sarcasm.

A guy who wasted $600 million on styrofoam columns and infomercials lecturing us about selfishness?

Growing the middle class to lift all boats. Preferable to growing the wealthy and hoping some scraps will fall from the table.

Wow! Selfish and unpatriotic. What next?

Rand’s view of “selfishness” is in line with what Marianne Williamson meant in her poem “Authenticity”…the concept that when we pursue our own personal best, those around us are also raised up. Many on the left love Williamson’s views on life–she is not a religious author–but rather a spiritual author, loved by Oprah, etc.
Here is the text of her poem:
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, “Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous?”Actually, who are you not to be?
Your playing small doesn’t serve the world.
There’s nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you.
We were born to make manifest the glory that is within us.
It’s not just in some of us; it’s in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.
~Marianne Williamson~
Selfishness–as Rand and Williamson define it is not as Obama define it–at all.

OK so it is selfish to want to keep the money you have earned. What is it called when you want to keep what you have earned, but also want the government to take some away from others and give it to you?

Some of us get it.
Redistribution, Economic Justice, Civil Rights.
Tax cuts, handouts, Welfare, Reparations.
Obama said he didn’t believe in reparations–he knew that wouldn’t win an election.
So he just called them tax cuts.
He’s making Karl Marx, Wright, and Ayers so very proud.

Obama can keep his $500 bribe.
There is no amount of money that would get me to vote for him.

Obama and I have have different views about what the term “selfishness” is.
I’ve always believed that charity starts at home. You take carre of your family members that need help, then you extend your services to those in your community.
Obama has family members living in squalor on $1 month in 6 x 9 huts and the Boston Housing Authority has voiced their shock that Obama’s aunt Zeituni is living in the slums in Boston. She receives a meager salary and still managed to send him $260 to his already almost $1 billion war chest. He took the $$ and thanked her. He should be giving her money. He could send $20 a year to his poor relations in Kenya and it would triple their yearly income.
Now, his charity donations are low also, he gave to the literacy program, $5,000 to an African Dance studio and $30,000 to Trinity United. I thought donations given to the church went to community services, but apparently, Rev Wright decided he needed a $10 million line of credit and he needed a multi-million dollar home.
If Obama can’t even take care of his family, how does he intend to take care of mine?
He doesn’t, he’s running for president on empty promises he knows are impossible to fulfill just to build up his ego even more.

Obama doesn’t share his wealth with his poor Auntie — He wants our tax money to support her.

Thats the whole premise of the progessive taxation system. The more you earn the more you pay in taxes…why is that so hard to understand! And those who make millions & dont wish to pay their fair share are selfish! I dont think that smacks of socialism…its merely what a civil capatilist society expects of us all. Or would it be better to continue with 8 more years of the middle class paying more & the rich less??? This notion that giving more tax breaks to the rich so they create more jobs overseas is absurd logic!!

The number has dropped from 250K to 200K…Biden has hinted at 175K, and now Bill Richardson is saying 120K…the middle class in fact shrinking, but only because the DNC continues to push down the cutoff point.
Fact is, when a tax system ever threatens earners with a 50% or higher rate, the system becomes punitive, and dampens the incentive to achieve and produce more.
Explain to the person who is making just over 200K why he should take home less money than someone making 135K.

if u become a millionare will u share your wealth with all your cousins and long lost family u dont know who may live in poverty? I think not
Posted by: deb | Oct 31, 2008 11:47:01 AM
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YES, I would. Each of our family members sends $ to my elderly grandmother. If I won the lottery I would set my family up. Many other Americans would do the same for their families. Because unlike the bad opinion of Michelle Obama (which you obviousyl agree with) we are not a down-right mean country. In my state of Texas, a stranger bought back a foreclosed home and gave it back to the owner and then walked away. She didn’t even expect to be repaid. That is the country I live in. Not the bitter country Obama and MIchelle live in.

If I had a quarter for every poster on ANY blog that uses this phrase; “I am a former Republican” I would take care of Obama’s relatives.
Is the astroturf getting a little slick?
Note; Ayers dedicated his book Prairie Fires to one Sirhan Sirhan.
How’s that for a little morning conversation?
On a closing note, Obama is fabulous at asking other people to share what they have, but LOUSY at sharing his own.
Just ask his aunt and brother.

Brenda, people HAVE asked his brother. What did he have to say?
“He said that he was furious at subsequent reports that he had been abandoned by the Obama family and that he was filled with shame about living in a slum. “It seems there are people who want to destroy me and my family,” he said.
“They say I live on a dollar a month, but this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win.””
I think he’s talking about you there Brenda…

rocky: “Explain to the person who is making just over 200K why he should take home less money than someone making 135K.”
That would never be the case under ANYBODY’s tax proposals. I have never heard of such a thing. Where did you get an idea like that from?

We need to redistribute what you have so others simply have.
Obama has been clear — he’ll redistribute. He’ll penalize the rich, give to the poor, and we’ll all be better off. He’s been careful to be glib and dress it up in pleasant orator’s disguise. And the polls say Repubs and Dems alike are eating it up!

oops. I guess my last post should have been directed at S. Adams–not Simplicity. I agree with Adams-not Simplicity. Not that it really matters much. :)

Bill Richardson said in a radio interview (it’s on You Tube) that people who earn below $120,000 won’t get a tax increase. The goal post on who is wealthy just got moved again.
Is everyone at ABC unionized? LOL, won’t that be fun…card check and all.

Concerned in Ohio: Tell me, do you think we should all pay no taxes at all and just contribute as we see fit?
Here’s the thing, we have a progressive tax system now. McCain isn’t proposing to abolish it. The principle will be exactly the same under both McCain and Obama. The rich pay more (in percentage terms) than the poor and middle class. If you have a problem with that, you have a problem with both of them.

True but …economy was doing fine in the 90s because Internet was new/growing, AsiaPac was beginning its growth spurt, European markets were beginning to grow again, and the investment markets were flush w/cash. Taxes are the least of it.

zeke: “If it’s selfish to want to keep as much of what you earn as possible, then I think most of us are selfish.”
We live in one of the most generous societies. If you worship every penny you earn, then you are in the minority – most of us donate to charity, support family, etc.

Aengil,
What is your definition of rich? Obama’s keeps changing daily.

jhw539,
I do take care of my family. I do donate to charities. I do pay taxes. I do like to have as much control of the money I HAVE EARNED.

It begins… first it was about money, then patriotism, now selfishness.
As a double-earner family (2 small kids) getting close to the $250K, I’ve never thought of us as wealthy. We own a moderate house, drive 2 moderate cars (one minivan and one commuter car), and live within our means (mortgage that’s almost 1:1 with our current earning, no extravagant vacations, use the library, shop at Kohls/Target/Walmart, cut coupons, put some into 401(k), some into college funds, some towards savings/retirement). There’s not a lot left for “dicretionary” spending, and I’m constantly worried about how vulnerable we are financially in case something happens (one person loses a job, illness, accident, etc).
And yet I’m considered “wealthy”? Sure, just like Warren, Oprah,Wall St execs … just without the trust funds, substantial reserves, or the need to keep working in order to pay for our lives and our children’s futures.
But hey – Im just being selfish for thinking that another % point here or there on taxes impacts my retirement,my kid’s college, or my ability to save for a rainy day. What’s my security/peace of mind, when I can pay for someone else’s retirment, college tuition, or health insurance?
Thanks, friends. When you bring me down to the level of needing government assistance, will you be happier?

Lets do away with taxation. That solves the problem.
I never liked paying taxes anyway.
I earned my money, well I inherited most of it, but why should I do anything to help our nation get out of the mess we are in now? I didn’t cause it.
Screw those who need “help”. They are all lazy and unwilling to strive to succeed like me. I am better than them!
It’s mine. All mine!

This piece sounds like a McCain sound bite.
Obama’s speech pretty clearly says that he believes in capitalism – loud and clear – but this piece parses one line to make some obscure reference to the nutcase Ayn Rand. Has anybody looked at Wall Street lately? Brilliant ideas about unregulated capitalism just cost millions of people their retirement and college savings – I guess that doesn’t count when you’re way too young for retirement and your kid is way too young for college – but for the rest of us – it’s really, really tough to watch OUR HARD EARNED DOLLARS go down the drain because of unregulated corporate greed.
Maybe a more relevant reference would have been Alan Greenspan – an ardent follower of Ayn Rand’s, who helped create this mess. “those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders’ equity (myself especially) are in a state of shocked disbelief.” Those of us who are not multi-millionaires, or don’t have millionaire daddies, are really in shock, Mr. Greenspan. And you helped put us here – you and a press corps who supported a bankrupt Republican agenda every step of the way.

“His entire voting record speaks to taxing at will”
Nonsense. His voting record over the past decade is pretty centrist. Recently including things like voting for the Patriot Act renewal and FISA – both things that enraged the few radical leftists in his base but were good, centrist law votes.

Is voting PRESENT being centrist? Sounds non-commital to me.

I am listening to what he says…that seems to be the problem. He says a different number everytime he talks.

zeke: “I am listening to what he says…that seems to be the problem. He says a different number everytime he talks.”
No… he doesn’t…
I think the problem here is that you’re just hearing the ‘number!’ and not actually paying attention to what that number relates to.
For example, you hear “No-one earning less than 250K will get a tax increase” and “Anyone earning less than 200K will get a tax cut” and you’re all, “Hey! That number changed! What’s going on?”
Whereas the first is saying who would get a tax increase and the second is saying who would get a tax cut. The implication is that people inbetween would find no change in their taxes.
Less than 200k = tax cut.
200k to 250k = no change.
250k+ = tax increase.
Get it?

Dear Leader: And the economy that Alan Greenspan. George Bush and Phil Gramm have brought us is NOT a nightmare? I know people who are having to pull their kids out of college because their savings was destroyed by an unregulated market – which Phil Gramm and Alan Greeenspan created. A huge sector of the press, with a notable Nobel-prize winning exception, just sat back and watched it happen – or worse – spent their time and words on church bulletins and baracloungers.

Next argument: racists.

drevelyn2: “You history buffs out there know the Great Depression was causes by Republican Majorities in the 1920s that lead up to the 1929 Stock Market crash! The 1930s were the years of the Great Depression and it took a Socialist, FDR to get America back on track.”
Good Lord!! Talk about revisionist history … Roosevelt’s policies EXTENDED a recession into a depression. It took 15 years and a reversal of exhorbitant tax policies for America to recover from Roosevelt.
Everytime the government intrudes on private enterprise things go south. If left alone, the market continually corrects itself. Government intrusion can make things look good in the beginning, but long term effects are devasting.
Prime example is Carter’s Community Reinvestment Act which was given teeth by the Clinton administration forcing lenders to give loans to unqualified applicants. The result is what you see today.
Throw your history book away.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, but under the name of Liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program until one day America will be a Socialist nation without knowing how it happened” — Norman Thomas – Socialist Party Presidential candidate Civil Liberties Union,” Houghton Mifflin, 1976

I have made decent money most of my adult career, even though I had to hustle to keep employed. Downsized almost continuously over the last fifteen years. I have taken advantage of my 401K, but to do that, I gave up vacations, live in a modest home , put down big downpayments, and bought a new car only once every 10 years. I don’t have a cell phone, an IPOD.
What motivates me to establish a little wealth? I have 9 brothers and sisters who simply weren’t born with the wherewithal to do what I can do. I hope to leave them some money so they don’t have to live on the public dole.
Now, let’s say I have 1 million in assets and will get a pension. Some of you may call that “fortunate” and feel those savings should be taxed rather than given to my brothers and sisters – four of whom still live with my mother.
Why would I even want to share it with the poor living in Brack obama’s neighborhood? That neighborhood already gets 85% of its school funding from outside the district, has about one murder every other day, a rate that continues to rise?
Keep in mind that I have always paid for schools neither I nor my family members use, as a single childless person, pay a high tax rate.
The choices I made are the reason I will have a comfortable (not extravagant) retirement. Those choices are largely available to everyone. I did not come from a wealthy family. My father worked three jobs most of his life.
As for who is going to have their taxes increased – why everyone who has any income at all. When only 2% of the people make over 250,0000 and 40% don’t ppay federal income taxes. Well the numbers don’t work unless taxes are increased on everyone.
I live in Barack Obama’s county. The sales tax went up this year to the highest in the nation, both school districts in my community are looking for tax increases, and so is the village. Income redistribution is occurs at every taxing body, at every level of government. I think it is time to say enough is enough. Jennifer Hudson’s mother, brother and nephew were killed in Barack Obama’s neighborhood. A child is killed there – I’ll bet one a week. In today’s paper, I read that 85% of the children living in the city of chicago are labled as low income. I also read ttoday that the workers that man the garbage trucks have a daily absenteeism rrate of 30%. And that a recent study sshowed that the workers who show up in the department of streets and sanitiations work about 6 hours a day. Contrast that with my workdays over the past 7 years of 10 hours a day, and never being ill, or taking vacations for more than 2 days at a time.
I don’t trust any politican to use our money wisely or to spend it for any reason other than to get votes.

Obama the uniter;
‘typical white person.’
‘They cling to their guns and religion.’
‘They will say that I am black.’
‘white folks greed runs a world in need’
‘they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness.’

Obama should tell Biden to donate more than around .1 percent of his income to charity, like he has been doing the last ten years (note the decimal).
Golden tenent of phonies: Do as I say not as I do.

This reveals the basic underlying philosophy of the Left – that one cannot possibly be charitable unless they use the government to redirect their funds. Obama assumes that people who don’t want to pay higher taxes are somehow “selfish”, but that’s only true if one assumes that the so-called rich won’t do anything else with their money except sit around like Scrooge McDuck, counting it constantly. Most people today invest it, which creates jobs, or spend it, which creates even more jobs, or donate it to charity — which works much more effectively and with much less overhead than filtering it through government bureaucracy.
Those who earn the money want to direct it in the manner they see fit, in the most efficient manner possible. That’s not selfish, it’s just common sense. Only someone in love with government power could see it as anything else.

He is a Marxist, plain and simple.
Makes you wonder about those supporting him.

let’s quite the backbitting and vote your choice. Because many of these changes have to carried through congress. As of now, I am not please with any of the chocies they have made. Its seems that the government is trying to buy a good economy; just let if fail like the government let failures of the homeowners, the job markets, gas prices, and food prices. It seems as though if no one can buy the products what would it matter even to the rich. I choose to vote for OB.

Grotesquely rich people acting offended at the idea that should lose an irresponsible tax giveaway and bear their fair share of the tax burden is indeed, very selfish.

Look at all of Obama’s relatives living in poverty! Look at Obama’s and Biden’s minuscule charitable contributions! Who is selfish? Studies show that conservatives give much more generously to charity than liberals. That’s because liberals believe the government should do everything. Conservatives take responsibility for helping their neighbors, but they like to choose the charities themselves. The Federal Government is not their favorite charity.

Trickle up. How does one get a little extra without a job?

Why doesn’t Obama begin by giving some help to his wretched relatives who all seem to be living in squalor

So anyone who does not believe in income re-distribution and welfare is “selfish”? Anyone who votes for Obama deserves to have their money taken away.

If I take money from my neighbor in order to make someone I deem need, better off, it is called “stealing” and I get thrown in jail. If the government does it, it is called welfare.
If I do not have the right to do so, why does the government??? Washington has legistated power to itself that was never the people’s right to give.

Now if there is anyone left in the US that DOESN’T know that Barry Hussein Obama is a Marxist and he plans to punish those that have worked hard in this country, then they must be brain dead.
Fortunately, there are far too many Americans that see Barry for what he is and Democrats for what they are. It ain’t gonna happen lefties. You will not be able to overthrow our country this time. No matter how much help you may have from foreign money, George Soros, and ACORN.

Yes I am selfish. I donate more to the POOR than Joe Biden,. In fact I make less than half of what Biden makes and Donate 10X what he donates. Selfish me. Biden makes 250K and donates 340.00 a year. Now thats SELFISH

Read “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand if you want to know what is about to happen under Obama.
Her debunking of the “altruism myth” of the left wing is spot on for these times.
Having “self-interest” is a virtue.
The true greed in America is coming out
of the left wing losers looking for a hand out.
“Thou shall not covet” – has been repealed by the loser left and turned into “give me my share”.
We are about to see American immolate itself in an orgy of gunpoint prodded sacrifice.
The “party of peace” is about to send out an army of tax collectors to force everyone to pay for all this “sharing”.

I suppose Obama not helping out his extended family and his lack of contributions to charity, paint him as a pretty self-less guy huh?
How can Obama accuse others of being selfish when he is one of the most self-serving people out there?
He has done nothing for his constituents. What makes voters believe that he would do anything for them? Past deeds are indicative of future ones. Also, with his friends/associations there seems to be a common theme. He himself admits in his books that he sought out radicals.

Obama, a very wealthy man, but allows his own Aunt to live in poverty in the slums of Boston has a lot of nerve calling anyone selfish.

I am already making plans to cut my earnings to 250k….no, 200k…..no 150k…..no, 120k……………….
GOD HELP US!

Sorry Mr. Obummer — gov’t is not supposed to create jobs or provide health care. Please move to Cuba where you will be much happier and you can run for dictator there!

Seems I’ve heard this before. Divide and conquer. Anyone ever remember any presidential candidate using this tactic before to get voted in. This guys talks out of both sides of his space. Be concerned about suppression of freedom of speech. GET OUT AND VOTE TAKE MANY OTHERS WITH YOU TELL THEM TO VOTE> VOTE MCCAIN

Warren Buffett and Paul Volker and Robert Rubin and General Powell are all supporters and endorsers and advisors of Senator Obama. Now that is a cabal of Communists and terrorists!

if you raise my taxes Mr Obama i won’t have “a little more money at the end of the month … ” you will take away my hard earned wages so i have less at the end of the month!

I would describe selfishness as the act of a man who is a millionaire, and then lets his half brother live in a shack in Africa on less than $20.00 a year. To add insult to injury we now learn that his dear aunt that he named in his book and he stated he would take care of financially is living is abject poverty in Boston. Heck, the poor woman cannot even afford a decent cane to help her walk.
Obama is a disgrace. Voters trust him to take care of their needs and he will not lift a finger to help his own family. If Obama takes care of your family the way he takes care of his own relatives that he has promised to look after … you are screwed.

It seems Mr. Obama doesn’t know the meaning of Socialism. Let this guy just keep talking and the Republicans won’t have to say another word.

So I’m racist, and selfish.
What’s next Obama?
I don’t want to share my apartment with illegal aliens?
I’m buying JIF peanut butter while others can’t afford the bargain brand?
How dare I think I should be able to drive my car every day while others have to take the bus.
Shove it Barry!

Obama has made personal attacks on those who disagree with his campaign(e.g., voters in PA are racist; Joe the Plumber isn’t really a plumber; and now those who have made money are selfish). Does this strike anyone as unusual for a presidential candidate?
And being taxed on one’s labor is a questionable practice in and of itself. I certainly do not think that those who build up small businesses and work hard and reach a certain level should be punished for it. And, guess what? To those people worried about the economy: poor people don’t employ people. Rich people do. If you overtax employers, they make cut backs.
Why in the world would Obama want to raise taxes in this economy? It could be an economic diaster.

“Trickle up” economics is nothing new.
The Philippines is a good example of the results of such a concept.

Gooood Lord…. we’re over taxed as it is and for us to dare to want to keep more of OUR own money and not send it to Obama to redistribute is SELFISHNES?!?!?! God help us if this Socialist is elected!
SCARY SCARY stuff coming out of Obama’s mouth

Selfish…gracious he is arrogant in making that statement.
It is selfish to want and buy what you do not need; it is selfish to receive a salary that is obscene while the workers in your company are being laid off; it is selfish to want something for nothing-not to work and not to put in an honest 8 hours of work.
The only thing that needs serious change in America is its political system–it is far too liberal and corruption is a huge iceberg.
We have freedom and liberty in America that is a blessing and Obama and the Democrats want to change America.
I love America–I can speak freely about what I think is wrong with the government–under Obama you will find secrecy and censorship of the media and the people
In America you have freedom of religion yet the liberal agenda of Democrats has picked at that freedom and now we cannot pray in school, cannot pray in public and being a Christian is offensive…wrong…Christians are generally more tolerant than others but are not afraid to speak out when they see something wrong.
Obama is set to change the tax codes–you will pay and those who do not work will receive something for nothing…just watch how many people leave the workforce…watch companies leave America because they are taxed to death and watch small businesses crumble after achieving the American dream–all because of taxes and “spreading the wealth”.
Obama is a Socialist; Obama is a Marxist. The Democrats have been leaning toward Socialism since the Johnson years with progressive entitlements “for the people”…and all the while the government is beginning to own the populace because they provide for them…
won’t be long before you will be doing exactly what the government tells you to do because they provide it all!

The more the wealthy pay for government, the more they own government. The majority of the super-wealthy are democrats. With Obama’s election, they will have sewn up the ownership of the United States.

BIDEN IS SELFISH!
$2,500,000 earnings.
$0,003,600 given to charity.
That’s just over .1%
LIberals are so generous with my money, not their own.

Based upon Mr. Obama’s track record of shameless charitble contributions (available on his website) prior to his book deal (look it up), he already thinks selfishness is a virtue. He wants to contribute your money to help the poor, not his. Shame on him!

I could call someone who wants to be the most powerful person in the world and who will say anything to get elected “selfish” as well…
But I could add “ego-maniacal,” “conceited,” and “self-absorbed.”
But mostly I call them “Obama.”

The rich are not paying their fair share! They are paying their fair share and a lot of other people’s fair shares, too!
Our current income tax structure is nothing less than twenty-first century slavery. The slaves don’t pick cotton anymore. The government picks the slaves pockets instead.

How are rich people being selfish when the top 1% of income earners pay 40% of the income tax burden? How are low income people not being “selfish” when the bottom 50% of wage earners only pay 2.7% of the tax burden and our asking for a handout. It sounds like low income poeple are the ones who are being “selfish”
Speaking of being “selfish”, how much of your income did you or your running mate donate to charity over the last 5 years Mr. Obama? Less then 1% each. That sounds oftly selfish does it not? Maybe you could have stopped being “selfish” and helped out your aunt or brother who are both living in povery. I guess the 5 million dollars you made off your book was not enough money for you to stop being “selfish” and stop acting in your own political best interest.

I am so sick of his line that every kid should be able to go to college. EVERY kid in this country can go to college. it’s called working your way through! A state college is not that expensive and if an 18 or 19 year old can’t work and make at least half of what they need to go to school maybe they don’t really want to be there! Suck it up kiddies, my 3 three kids worked there way through college while taking a full load and keeping there grades up, and oh yeah, they still had time to party.
My tax dollars owe you nothing if your too damn lazy to work for it yourself!

Assuming I make $250,000 (or $200,000, or $150,000 depending on whether you listen to Barack, Joe Biden or Barack), what happens when my taxes increase?
I can take less money home to my family,
I can pass the cost along to my customers, or
I can lay off one of my employees.
I made my decision.

What arrogance. Liberals love to give money away. As long as it’s not their own.

opportunity in America abounds…there are ways to achieve your dream if you are willing to “work” and achieve it. The problem with a lot of people is that it isn’t respectable to work anymore…they want it without effort and they want the salary of a rockstar/CEO without the effort

just get out and vote… republicans!!!… WORDS OUT THAT THE MSM AND THEIR POLLS ARE TRYING TO DISCOURAGE REPUBS BY SCEWING THE POLLS. LOOK AT THE NYT…. 17 POINTS AHEAD..THATS BS…JUST GET OUT AND VOTE!!! IT’S ALL A SCAM MCCAIN IS ACTUALLY LEADING IN EARLY VOTING IN MOST STATES!!!

Bares repeating:
“Here’s another Randism for him…I was not born into this world to be a means to his ends. The fruits of my labor are not his to divvy up. I earn a paycheck to support myself and my family. I pay taxes for vital services like roads and law enforcement. If I have extra, I might choose to give some to the needy. But I will not be used as a tool to make all his little boats float.”
Amen.

It seems selfishness has been redefined. I prefer to donate my money to charity (at a much greater rate than Obama/Biden combined) I might add. Let’s review: according to Obama/Biden I am a selfish, unpatriotic, clinger to guns and religion. This is the audacity of hope/change? Change is all I will have left if they are elected.

Charity, legitimate Charity, is comprised in personal help effected in a matrix of Christian Morality where the results of one’s efforts can be clearly seen and monitored, the optimal situation of course being helping individuals help themselves. In some cases that’s obviously impossible. The individual cannot help himself or herself in any effective way in which case direct help, however ultimately gradational, is obviously required. The closer the giver is to the recipients of the Charity effected, the better, so as to optimize the situation in every way – morally, socially, temporally. In every way. Obviously.
Govt programs, while necessary to some degree, inevitably give rise to corruption and inefficiency, and often (usually?) to real immorality and social damage (e.g. ‘welfare’ as commonly understood) while broadly effected secular socialism and communism can and do give rise to real evil, murder, wars and all the rest of it.

“You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away men’s initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they COULD and SHOULD do for themselves.”
-Abraham Lincoln
“I think the best way of doing good to the poor is not making them easy in poverty, but leading them or driving them out of it”
-Benjamin Franklin
“To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers have acquired too much, in order to spare to others who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equaled industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, ‘to guarantee to everyone of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it.’”
-Thomas Jefferson
“The utopian schemes of leveling [redistribution of wealth], and a community of goods, are as visionary and impracticable as thouse which vest all property in the Crown. [These ideas] are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional.”
-Samuel Adams

“I keep hearing how Obama will bring us all together. How in the name of GOD will someone who has run his entire campaign based on class warfare bring us together.?”
Joe-here’s your answer. We will all be standing in the same WELFARE lines. The shortest and most lucrative line will be for the Obama worshippers and the longer, slower line with less available will be for the rest of us. See you in the slow line!

Just remember:
Obama bin Biden
Abomination

Let’s see… McCain has contributed over $1,000,000 to charity in the past 10 years, while Obama has donated about $10,000. Sarah Palin and her husband have donated in the past two years more than Sen. Biden has donated in the past eight years combined. This is true all across the board when it comes to the amounts Democrats and Republicans donate respectively. Who are the selfish ones?

I think it is selfish to want government to take money from someone who earned it and give it to me. What message do we send to our kids? Work hard in school so that you can earn money that Obama will give to the slacker who sits next to you and doesn’t do any work?

Obama; Why is your aunt living in a slum in Boston???
Why does your half brother in Kenya,exist on a dollar per month???
And you call us selfish???

hard earned dollars??!!
lololololololol
yeah I’m sure Cindy McCain worked harder then Firefighters and Marines.
screw all the rich snobs and their apologists

Obama said that one of our society’s greatest failings is not having helped the “least of these.” Obama thinks that the top 5% of America is obligated to help the bottom 40%, who pay no taxes. However, Obama himself does not even help the “least of these,” not even his own family members. There have been reports of at least three Obama relatives, two of them living in the US, who live at or below the poverty level. Why is it that Obama hasn’t done anything to take them out of that poverty situation?? Obama’s record simply does not match his rhetoric. His words do not match his actions.

“I keep hearing how Obama will bring us all together. How in the name of GOD will someone who has run his entire campaign based on class warfare bring us together.?”
Joe-here’s your answer. We will all be standing in the same WELFARE lines. The shortest and most lucrative line will be for the Obama worshippers and the longer, slower line with less available will be for the rest of us. See you in the slow line!

drevelyn2
you have read to many revisionist history books. what really made Roosevelts economy was WW2, it put Americas work force gack to work and making money creating expansion.

get out and vote!!! Mccain/Palin!!! the polls are B.S. the MSM are all LYING!!! the polls are wrong!! GO USA!!

“Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.” -Lao Tzu
Obama has it all backwards, and I suspect he knows this. He does not care for the poor because he wants us all to be poor. Liberals feed on misery.

that was funny – a interview in Harlem NY about who they are voting for

You can tell a person’s heart by how they PERSONALLY contribute to charity when no one is looking. Take a look at Obama’s and Biden’s charitible contributions over the past couple of years. They want to give away our money but not THEIRS!!!

1990′s??? 401k Lost 52% of value in 1999-2000. Only 33% down in this “great depression”.

It takes lots of work to make a country run. Many of us wake up every day to put our shoulder to the grindstone that is work that makes this country run.
Seems to me that the truly selfish ones are those that don’t get out there and work and instead let us workers carry all the load and then have to pay some of our hard earned money to them for sitting back and watching.
I paid my own way to college working nights and weekends. State colleges are open to any resident at a resonable cost. I personally don’t want to foot the bill of some other guys kids to Harvard.

Thom Chode: Are you serious? You do realize the rich get taxed more right now don’t you? We already have a progressive tax system.
Do you seriously think a few percentage points in the highest tax bracket ‘takes away any incentive to excel or go the extra mile’?
Sheesh.

Type “Yes” if you’re voting for McCain/Palin

You referenced Ayn Rand! Atlas Shrugged! KUDOS – there are a few of us out here!

To understand the tax implications at different rates you need to understand the marginal tax rate. I earn (yes earn) $112/K a year. On my way up I learned that certain tax breaks and other vehicles were no longer available to me. So not only did my income tax rate increase, but I “lost” the ability to get deductions that I had previous received. Tax saving from an IRA are also a thing of the past.
The net result is a much higher marginal tax rate than I had paid before. So, while The Leader positions himself to take even more of my hard earned money, I’ll be thinking of all those thing I would have done that helps drive the economy. That includes:
- start my own business (direct job creation)
- save & invest (inject money to help others start/grow business)
- buy a new BMW (which give some guy/gal in SC a job building them along with the whole distribution/sales chain)
- go out to dinner & entertainment (spend cash with local business who have employees)
- play golf (well, I’m still going to play golf)
So yes Dear Leader. Take my money and I’ll stop driving the economic engine.
Signed – Mr Evil

So…Robert, Mr. Hardworking MAN…are you standing there with your hand out waiting for some money that doesn’t belong to you? Well, pick up a shovel and a hammer and come work at our small business 12 hours a day until you are covered in mud and sweat, and then we will put some money in your hand and send you home to get a few hours sleep, before it starts all over the next day.

Why doesn’t he donate some of his $600 mill election war chest towards his cause?

Robert says -
“screw all the rich snobs and their apologists”
Probably similar to the mindset of Sirhan Sirhan when he killed RFK. NO worries for Obama, he’s friends with Ayers who says poor ole Sirhan is a political prisoner. Hey, Ayers says kill your parents! Who cares if they are rich or not?
Cindy McCain has proven with her time and money (she runs a business) that she has a generous spirit and heart and reaches out to help others? How many kids has St. Obama adopted? How many surgeries for poor kids has he paid for? Michelle paid for? Hell, Michelle turns the poor away at her hospital.

Take a look at Biden-Obama tax returns. Biden has averaged around $400 a year in charitable contributions. Obama over the past two years HAS given some donations but prior to that—with a $200,000+ salary, he was giving less than 1% to charity. Yes, these two champions of the down and out have sure put money where the mouth is. I guess it is okay when the money given comes from someone else.

Economically, I would be among those who Obama wants to “share the wealth” with. He would be taking from those who have to give to us, who are struggeling to make last months and this months mortgage payment… as well as lights, gas and other utilities. We always seem to be struggling to make it.
The beauty of America, though, is that I still have a chance to make it and I want to do it. BUT, there is no way that I want it handed to me. That would destroy the oportunities that exist for the lowest among us to reach heights only dreamed of in other lands. NO Mr. Obama… leave the money where it is. The top money earners already pay the majority of taxes… and we, at the lower end, need to start paying ours.
Leave the USA the way it is… except, you in the government need to get out of our way so that those of us at the bottom can make our way up without you in our way.

mara said: It will take Obama two terms to get this mess straightened out.
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Obama doesn’t even know what two terms are – he thinks 2 terms is 10 years, not 8. He thinks we have 57 states, not 50…the man can’t count!….Plus you don’t fix the economy by more and more spending, which all of his plans would do. Is that how you would balance your own personal budget?
You don’t stimulate the economy by increasing taxes on ANYONE during a recession…that will cause a GREAT DEPRESSION that makes 1929 look like a blip on the radar of American history.

I guarantee Obama will not give one cent of his money to anyone. Typicall Stalinist. I’d rather die poor and free then take one cent from another person by force or handout because of socialism. I’ll earn my own money thank you.

Obama lovers/Independents. please wake up. They are placing the race card to get you to vote for him. Typical scare tactics of a Socialist. If his policies worked why is his part of Chicago the most impoverished? Why do they have the highest crime rate? Just before the great depression this was tried (raising taxes on just the upper income earners)and guess what we ended up in a 10 year depression. Why? Small business owners will lay people off, no one in their right mind would start a business and yet others will take them overseas. Don’t you get it??

“Why doesn’t he donate some of his $600 mill election war chest towards his cause?”
Posted by: occincin
Forgettaboutit! Obama won’t even donate his cash to HIS OWN PARTY! Harry Reid had his hand out months ago and Obama said “no”. How’s that for such a fine example of sharing the wealth?

Hey bro no fair complain’n about me and my people buying fancy phones. Those cheap sets always crap out in the middle of a drug deal and that gets in the way of my income. Which is in cash so I don’t worry bout taxes. and my main squeeze is on every gov. program they ever thought of. so we is sitting pretty. We don’t own a car as that is not allowed under the gov programs so we just lease a big short which is allowed. That is why there are so many big cars in the hood. they all be leased and paid for in cash.

This is the same mentality an armed robber has. It’s not YOUR money, it’s HIS. You just happen to have it.
Remarkable.

What’s the matter guys?….Feeling a bit guilty?????Am I my Brother’s keeper??

All politicians would do well to remember that taxes are collected at the point of a gun. It isn’t selfish to object to having what is yours coercively removed, and it isn’t generous for a politician to try and improve the world with other people’s money.

Like a good coersive utopian, BHO trots out the the guilt trips. Not gonna work BHO.
We as a people have formed a government to provide us with certain services. We must pay for those services. We have decided to tax ourselves and establish a progressive income tax scale. Those who make more shall have a slightly higher income tax rate. THIS NOT WHAT BHO IS TALKING ABOUT.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul does 4 very bad things.
1) Paul is marginalized and enabled.
2) Paul does not aspire to be Peter..who wants a gun to your head. Exceptionalism and excellance are attenuated…mediocrity is advanced.
3) Peter can no longer afford to hire Paul
4) Peter hides his money from the taxman…our economy suffers from it absence

“if he doesn’t take care of his OWN family and relatives, how’s he going to take care of you left-wing nuts?”
With someone else’s money…namely you the taxpayer’s money.

It’s not that I don’t want to be “patriotic” or want to be “selfish” (seriously though–give me a break). I am adamantly opposed to paying ANY additional taxes until those in power clean it up in Washington. Why in the world should anyone have to pay more in taxes when there is so much waste in Washington. When they keep adding earmarks. First, they need to clean it up and then, AND ONLY THEN, should they come to the taxpayers to do anything more than we are doing now. Why would anyone be willing to pay more? For someone to expect taxes to be raised on a group of people, no matter how rich, and to think it’s ok–makes no sense to me. To me, that is selfishness–on the part of the takers. And no, I am NOT one of those who is supposedly in danger of having taxes raised–IF you can believe O’ talking points. Actually, if O is elected, to me,that is just more of the same–out of control spending. Out of control spending + higher taxes == an alcoholic on a drinking spree.
Please vote for the only team that has a hope of change–change for the American people–and that’s McCain/Palin.

I’m a believer in selfishness, however, I am fairly opposed to the monstrous machine of destroyers that make up the McCain/Bush beneficiaries. Wealth built on exploitation through force, greed, and croneyism is not noble, per se. I think the majority of rich patriots will be voting Obama, because there is an intellectual realization that the course of this country is not exactly blemish proof. Yes, returning to pre-Bush tax cuts is a dream deferred, however, the necessity for re-investment of profits, bringing American jobs back home, far outweighs the need for further exploiting failed experiments. With tax breaks for creation of American jobs, and for reinvesting in American infrastructure, I don’t buy this doom-and-gloom Obama would take it all away from us scenario.
As an independent, I’m also absolutely blown away by the lack of planning and clarity given to us by McCain Palin. What exactly would they DO? Sorry, but Alaska is the exception to the rule, and nationalized oil revenue distribution won’t do the trick.
The economic policies of the 90′s that made this generation of wealthy are similar to the ones Obama advocates returning to.
McCain, while an interesting figure, does not seem to be willing to intellectualize the economic challenges that face us as a nation, and thus seems prepared to hand off our country’s fiscal policy off to the very people who built the Bush debacle.
It was our founding fathers who advocated access to education being the key to democracy. Was John Adams socialist?
It’s interesting how much blubbering hatred crops up in response to your article. Do you feel aligned with the Hank Reardens of the world when you rile up this crowd, or to the Jim Taggarts?

Hey Obama,
Bite me! I am selfish and my family appreciates my selfishness… Oh by the way how much did you donate to charity last year ????
LOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSER !!!!

‘A lot of rich people would leave me struggling to deem their dollars “hard earned”.’ –jozsef stalin
And who are you to “deem” anyone’s money hard-earned, or not?
You people are thieves, period.
And Democrats are just the fascists to go ’round looking in peoples pockets to determine “how much is enough” for them. Our country has never been like this. The “CHANGE” the socialist democrats seek will destroy this country. Individual freedom cannot coexist with socialism.
You labor is PRIVATE PROPERTY. Fight to keep the Democrat parasites from stealing it from you. Without PRIVATE PROPERTY all other rights do not matter.
Today’s Democrats have nothing for you but degrees of sacrifice and slavery.
Are you ignorant enough to trade freedom for “free” stuff?
“Socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money.” — Margaret Thatcher

This democrat of 35 years along with the rest of the family are proud to be casting their vote for McCain/ Palin.
America with all her faults is the most wonderful country in the world and I want to keep it that way. For those of you who blame America for your problems, GET OUT!

If I get a tax rebate more than what I paid from Obama, I intend to send it to the White House with this note, ‘Please return this to whom it belongs’. I will not accept ill gotten gain, even if it means I go without a meal!

why does everyone seem to think the money is going to be taken from the “hard workers” and given to the “lazy people”?
I work my #$% off every day! I work all day, many nights, weekends, and I have a college degree. Guess what? I still don’t make that much money, and there is a freeze on raises where I work and I won’t see much in the near future.
Why should the rich get tax breaks? How about the people that actually need it? So many people want their truck and their boat. Well, maybe now they will have to just get a car and a boat so I can pay my bills and go groshery shopping in the same month. I am looking for a better job. I am a reporter –freshly married and out of college. No one gets rich in this business. My grandpa was laid off with six kids in his day. He fought his way back with a gas station business, but he sure didn’t want any Republicans in office.
Reagan’s policies are biting us in the $#%. Time for something new. A tax break for the rich is a Republican policy…and now all of a sudden a tax break for me is socialism.
VOTE OBAMA. For the real hard-working people that make America run and don’t get paid like executives.

Holy Crap, Obama! Did you just call Americans selfish because they don’t want to pay more taxes? I’d love to see that comment go across the nation in the next 3 days!

Is Obama going to attack the participants in the Boston Tea Party as selfish, too? Give me a break.
If he wins, he’s going to do more harm to the Democratic party over the long term than Jimmy Carter did. They never seem to resist overreaching and it always backfires.

Oh YES!
It IS absolute selfishness,
BUT
by THOSE ON THE NEW FEDERAL WELFARE!

To Aengil, who said:
“And to those putting so much weight on the supposed plight of Obama’s half-brother, several newspapers have spoken to him and found that he’s quite happy. He also says your comments are all lies: “It seems there are people who want to destroy me and my family. They say I live on a dollar a month, but this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win.”
Yes, I am sure that he’s quite happy after having been instructed that he is not supposed to be talking to reporters anymore. Just like Obama’s aunt. She can’t talk until after November 4. Hmmm … I wonder why. Fine, let’s assume that he’s “happy.” Would it hurt Obama to help his half-brother out? He and his wife reported over $4 million in income last year. How about his aunt, who walks around with a make-shift cane? Bless her heart that she still donated $260 to Obama’s campaign. Obviously, she cares about him more than the other way around.

“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man,
nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine. ”
–Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

OBAMA’s BIGGEST LIE, that nobody in the press has challenged, is that Bush RAISED taxes on the middle class. Everyone in the middle class got a tax cut under Bush, from 28% to 25% marginal tax rates. But he continues to spread the blather that Bush took money away from the middle class and gave it to the rich.
Vote for Obama and you get what you deserve, America.

If some men are entitled by right to the products of the work of others, it means that those others are deprived of rights and condemned to slave labor. Any alleged “right” of one man, which necessitates the violation of the rights of another, is not and cannot be a right. No man can have a right to impose an unchosen obligation, an unrewarded duty or an involuntary servitude on another man. There can be no such thing as “the right to enslave.”
– Ayn Rand, “Man’s Rights,” The Virtue of Selfishness

To hear Obama tell it, at least half of all Americans are suffering unbearably. Wow! Really? Last time I was in the States (2005), I thought everyone must be rolling in long green judging from the big, new cars choking the roads, the packed-full shopping malls, and the vast tracts of new houses springing up like mushrooms in rings around the big cities. Now it’s just three years later, and one out of two Americans gets his daily bread at local soup kitchens and live under bridges because the banks foreclosed on their homes. How far you’ve fallen, and how fast!
If things have really gotten this bad, then there’s nothing in the constitution stopping the have-nots from fleecing the haves at the polls. Just don’t believe that this will do the economy any good or that things will getter any better. If the haves pay all the taxes while the have-nots collect all the welfare, then who’s going to create new jobs, new technologies, and new ways of making money? Not the haves – their tax planners will have their money hidden from the IRS and the domestic economy before Obama is sworn in.
Get real, grow up, and do the right thing, Americans. Otherwise, I won’t have a decent country to move back to, someday.

Obama said in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday. “I love rich people! I want all of you to be rich. Go for it. That’s the America dream, that’s the American way, that’s terrific. OBAMA IS AN IDIOT!! YOU WANT THIS MORON AS YOUR PRESIDENT? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE ABSOLUTELY LOST IT!! ARE WE STAR STRUCK? THE MEDIA HAS MADE OBAMA LOOK LIKE THIS COOL DUDE. THE MEDIA IS ELECTING THIS IDIOT NOT THE SMART AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY. EVERYTHING THAT OBAMA HAS DONE WRONG HAS BEEN COVERED UP BY THE MEDIA. THEY REFUSE TO REPORT ON ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT OBAMA. THE “NOT SO MAINSTREAM MEDIA” IS CORRUPT!! A PERFECT EXAMPLE: WHERE IS JOHN EDWARDS?? THE MEDIA WOULDNT REPORT ON HIM EITHER AND WHEN FORCED TOO THEY DID IT FOR A WEEK AND SWEPT IT UNDER THE RUG. THEY NEVER MENTIONED HIM ONCE AT THE DNC. ITS PATHETIC. YOUR ALL BEING PLAYED LIKE FOOLS BY THE CORRUPT “NOT SO MAINSTREAM MEDIA” AND YOU SIT THERE AND TAKE IT. PATHETIC!!

How can I make $150 Million like Obama in September? Share with all like back in the USSR.

I take Obama at his word. Who better exemplifies the behavior then him, he lets his brother live in a hut and his Aunt in a Boston slum…

M&M, I just called that number and you’re right it’s really scary to say the least.

The claim that rich people will fire employees due to a tax hike is ridiculous on the face of it. We are talking about personal income taxes, folks. If I’m a CEO of a Fortune 500 – tell me exactly why I start firing people because my income goes down? It seems nonsensical – and is obviously subterfuge. The top marginal tax rate will be raised to the level it was during the 90′s – which if we all remember was good times.

Obama 08

Robert said: “hard earned dollars??!!
lololololololol
yeah I’m sure Cindy McCain worked harder then Firefighters and Marines.
screw all the rich snobs and their apologists”
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Hey Robert. The reason Cindy McCain’s family has money is because they worked hard, built a business and prospered. This is what living in the United States is about, or supposed to be. Take away the incentive to better your life and you have nothing. You have no one to pay for your welfare check.
I am single and make a decent living and pay 50% of my paycheck for taxes. Give me a break. We already work over half the year just to pay taxes. Have you ever sat down with pen and paper and figured it out? perhaps socialism rings all right for you, but it is a slippery slope and soon, you will be falling over the cliff. Talk to people who have lived in the former USSR or Cuba. They know and they want this country and for as many issues as it has, know this is the GREATEST country in the world.
Take away your freedoms and you are no better than someone living in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bolivia, Peru, or Iran.
Don’t be bamboozled by that shining object. Check your azimuth and conduct your research and vote to preserve your freedoms, which you appear to have taken far too much for granted.
God Bless America and may she always be free!

When a child says “I DON’T WANT TO SHARE AND YOU CAN’T MAKE ME!”, they’re a SPOILED BRAT!
When an adult says “I DON’T WANT TO SHARE AND YOU CAN’T MAKE ME!”, they’re a REPUBLICAN!

I live in Boston, was told today that i am racist because i want to keep most of the money i earn and not give it to those who expect a handout and wont work………only a complete moron cant see where obama wants to lead us.

More class envy from The One.
If you REALLY believe that he would stop at $200,000, or $150,000, or whatever number he choses, you need look back no further than Bill Clinton whose promised “middle class tax cuts” became tax increases.
The numbers don’t hold up, folks. Obama cannot pay for his new spending on the backs of those making more than $250K – the math does not work.
It’s probably useless to note since many of the people reading this board have already decided to vote for Obama, but the percentage of income taxes paid by those in the upper brackets have actually increased slightly year by year over the last eight. You wouldn’t know that by listening to the Democrats.
The bottom 50% by income level earn 13% of the overall income and pay 3% of income taxes. The top 1% earn 19% of overall income and pay 37% of income taxes; the top 5% earn 33% of income and pay 57% of income taxes. The lowest 40% pay no income taxes today, so how can they get a ‘tax cut’ except by paying less social security taxes?

A vote for Obama is a vote for a lost America, the land of opportunity. How dare he label “selfishness” on Americans. So many people have lost their hard earned investments, retirement funds, 401Ks and if they cash in on what is left, they will be taxed even higher. Taxing Americans on any level during the worst of economic times is wrong. Taxing big business will send more jobs overseas,(tax on corporate America is the highest in the world) taxing small business will cut jobs. Taxing one level of wage earners to spread the wealth around is SOCIALISM. Do you hear Obama say I am doing it for the nurse, the secretary, the school teacher and the waitress-sure he is keeping them all down with no future to advance. Why would they want to if the wealth is being spread around by others?

The funniest thing about Obama is that he can say one thing convincingly while meaning the exact opposite. The facts belie Obama’s statements on taxes. He is going to raise taxes on everyone, including the middle class.
Obama has already promised to let the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010. The group that loses the most in this case will be the middle class. Incomes over $25,000 and up to $45,000 will see their marginal tax rates increase from 20% to 40%. Yes, if you make $25,001, that next one dollar of earnings will cost you $0.40 in federal taxes.
The only group which will avoid a substantial increase in marginal tax rates will be those who earn over $125,000. They will continue to be taxed at a 25% marginal tax rate. Coincidentally, Obama falls into this over $125,000 earnings range.
I didn’t make this up. Check out the Oct. 13, 2008 Wall Street Journal, page A18.

Well, perhaps one side will get the nuclear firing codes and the other side will merely be exterminated.

I can’t wait to spend all your money!!!
Seriously, knock off your “sky is falling” notions. Obama wants to take us back to the SURPLUS of the Clinton years. I DON’T FEEL SORRY FOR YOU!!!

Okay. If this jerk wants to spread his OWN wealth around, I say go for it, Barack. But I am SO done with him thinking that he has any right to tell people how much of their own money they’re entitled to. It’s arrogant and yes, it IS socialist. Sorry, Barry.
I’m as far from rich as I can be. But I hope that’ll change one day and I don’t want Barack Obama to step in on the achievement of my dream and tell me I’m not entitled to it or didn’t deserve it. Up yours, Barack. Spread your own damn wealth around. I’ve already cast my vote for John McCain; HE understands the principles that this great country was founded upon.

How about this, MiHi :
When a child or an adult sticks out their hand and demands something for free, they are both greedy and lazy.
Stand proud.

Here’s commentary from the Oct. 14 British Spectator that is an eloquent synopsis: “You have to pinch yourself — Barack Obama, a Marxist radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshiped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it’s considered impolite to say so.”
Let’s pray that the majority of Americans are not beguiled by this novice circus comic who is a slick talker when anchored to a teleprompter with a speech prepared by his ubiquitous handlers. Greg Neubeck

It is always class warfare with Democrats. They throw the words “rich” and “hardworking” around so easily. As I have said before we own a small business and work long hours, long days, and little to no vacation, but you see we don’t want you to feel sorry for us. Just understand that it is no more our responsibility to fund the government than it is yours. Those with a larger salary will automatically pay more taxes anyway, but all American’s should contribute to our defense, roads, etc., as you benefit, also. We should have a flat tax to be fair and then all American’s would be equally patriotic.

Here is a thought, does the government exactly have a good track record for being an efficient means of taking care of people? Katrina fraud, Fannie Mae debacle, state of California in general (I recall they almost got their lights shut off), big dig … and the list goes on and on.
While some of you would point to Bush as being in charge of some of those you would have a very narrow view of how the government actually works and how 9 out of 10 government employees (the people that actually execute the policy)are career entrenched people who basically can’t be fired and have about as much a stake in being competent as a registered republican in DC does of getting his candidate elected.
This class warfare stuff is nonsense. It is the government pitting the rich against the poor when they are the ones that are taking everybody’s money and doing a fabulously awful job with it.

Sharing is when you VOLUNTARILY give some of your money to someone else.
Having someone forcibly take it from you to give to others is socialism.
And nobody shares better than Republicans. Studies show that per capita, Republicans donate way more to charity than lazy, selfish Democrats.

Obama shouldn’t talk about “selfish” hard working people he plans to take wealth from to give to lazy ass so and so. His running mate Joe Biden is the epitomy of selfish–look at his record of charitable donations over the past 10 years…averaging $365 per year—NICE. Libs always want to spend other people’s $ not their own!

the comments about how many jobs the middle class and poor are right on, NONE
raising taxes kills jobs period also for you youngsters, check out jimmy carter obama will be worse trust me i lived through the carter admin. misery index anybody. please think and research before you vote

Pretty ironic how, despite how successful Obama has been in his career, he has so many family members living in poverty. Maybe he should set an example and start spreading his own wealth around.
I’m already sick of this lying hypocrite. He eats lobster and caviar for a snack while his aunt resides in a government slum. Does no one see the hypocrisy?!

When the “rich” are overly taxed and when $250k is considered rich…or is it $150k now, it will only be the super rich who do not feel the pain. The super rich who could pay 75% income taxes and it still would not bother them have nothing to lose and only power to gain. This hyper progressive tax system will only deepen the divide between the true rich and everyone else. If you think this is anything but a power play by the elites in government to increase their power and lower our resistance you mistaken and above all ignorant. Vote Obama if you want to see the true rich get richer and everyone else get poorer.

I trust millionaires Barack and Michelle won’t be voluntarily handing over their riches to the treasury, until they have only a few measly hundred thousand to their name. If you or I try to earn and keep more, we’re selfish and unpatriotic (per Biden) for not surrendering our pay to Obama to spend for us. Him keeping and growing his massive personal wealth? That’s different.
Anytime a wealthy limosine liberal says taxes need to be higher, ask them to give their money to the treasury until they have the same wealth as you, first. See how quickly they refuse to live within your means, while saying you have too much. But by being annointed leftists who have seen the light, they expect exemption from the standards they insist you live by.

Forget your pursuit of happiness if it gets in the way of what Barack Hussein Obama can envision. The healine should say “Obama reaffirms elitism”

Obama needs to practice what he preaches. He’s a multi-millionaire, as is his wife. Surely he doesn’t need all that money that he has. Is he out there giving away his wealth to the unfortunate? NO! He won’t even take care of his aunt who lives in a Boston slum. What makes anyone think that he cares about the average Joe? Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Obama.

To Pablo, who said:
“why does everyone seem to think the money is going to be taken from the “hard workers” and given to the “lazy people”?
I work my #$% off every day! I work all day, many nights, weekends, and I have a college degree. Guess what? I still don’t make that much money, and there is a freeze on raises where I work and I won’t see much in the near future.
Why should the rich get tax breaks? How about the people that actually need it? So many people want their truck and their boat. Well, maybe now they will have to just get a car and a boat so I can pay my bills and go groshery shopping in the same month. I am looking for a better job. I am a reporter –freshly married and out of college. No one gets rich in this business. My grandpa was laid off with six kids in his day. He fought his way back with a gas station business, but he damn sure didn’t want any Republicans in office.
Reagan’s policies are biting us in the $#%. Time for something new. A tax break for the rich is a Republican policy…and now all of a sudden a tax break for me is socialism.
VOTE OBAMA. For the real hard-working people that make America run and don’t get paid like executives.”
I am glad that you had the chance to go to college and that you work hard. But your view is all screwed up. You made your choice to be a reporter. You make your choice in your career. What if you had to chosen to go into partnership with this dorky loooking guy named William Gates back in the early 80′s? You would have been a billionaire now. Should you then be penalized for having been financially succesful? The top 10% of this country already bears 70% (yes 70%) of the tax burden. McCain’s tax policies are not designed to only help the rich. He is providing a tax cut to EVERYONE. He is not discriminating against the rich or the poor. Obviously, if you make $1,000 a year, and someone else makes $500, a 10% tax cut is going to yield a $100 savings for you, and $50 for the other person. Does this mean that tax cut favors you, becausae you saved $100 vs. $50? No. It was an across the board cut.

how much of his campaign money is Obama willing to share with McCain?

“I am not going to start pestering him, I don’t want to look to him for help, I want to achieve things for myself.”
Give it up already. Barack Obama is under no obligation to provide for his half-brother, especially when his half-brother doesn’t need or want it!

Last tax period, I gave more money to charity than did Mr. & Mrs. Obama, and I make much less. I want to choose who best benefits from my money. I definitely do not want my tax dollars rerouted to groups like ACORN.
Selfish I guess.

“SURPLUS of the Clinton years”
Bill Clinton is slightly left of center. Obama is an extreme leftist as measured by affiliation and voting record. In additon, Obama has no discernable record of accomplishment by which to gauge his governing philosophy. Only a blind hamster would conclude that because the two stood side by side for an hour or so, the Clinton philosophy of governing is shared by Obama. What is wrong with you people?

I call taking what isn’t your’s “stealing.” I believe people who want what they haven’t earned as selfishness. If people chose to give as a gift that’s one thing, but people that think they are entitled to what others have earned is “selfish.” I believe our government should help those that cannot help themselves (elderly and disabled). I don’t get this belief of entitlement instead of accomplishment. I think they are all loons. These people who believe this cr–, don’t get it. The powers of the far left don’t care about them, it’s all power. By keeping people dependent on them, they can keep the power. Most Conservatives and Libertarians at the top want us to be free to flourish and be all that we can or want to be. Conservatives don’t want what isn’t there’s and WILL SHARE with those that cannot do for themselve.

I am always impressed by people who follow the path that that actions speak louder than words.
With Obama, though, it is the opposite. His words speak louder than his actions. His relatives, including half brothers live in penury around the globe.
Kenya half brother $12 a year
English Muslim half brother. Unemployed
Aunt in Boston: destitute lives in assisted housing
Grandmother Kenya: lives in a mud hut.
If that is being your brother’s keeper I want none of it.

obama is a liar!

Funny how the stock market goes down when it’s reported that Obama’s lead goes up and the market goes up when Obama’s lead starts to go down. An interesting correlation.
I just wonder if Obama wins, how low will the stock market go? Could it set off the next great depression? I’ve heard of the Dolphins owner trying to sell his team before Obama gets into office to avoid the capital gains tax he’s going to impose.
If Obama is so good for the economy, why do all the leading indicators show the country will go down the tubes if he’s elected? All of Obama’s supporters say he’ll be great for the country and the economy, but if the stock market is any indication, then I think just the opposite will occur. It looks like Obama will be bad for the economy. What say you?

What liberals don’t understand is that you help Americans by getting and keeping the government out of their way.
Not, the government handing them checks. That just leads to dependence and weakness.

As a US Senator, Obama spent most of his time in office campaigning for President. Obama’ main experience is as a community organizer, another word for organizing low income people The last thing these people need is someone keeping them down. They need opportunity, not someone else’s paycheck. Obama will stifle many with his dictarship.

The fundamental thing that the Democrats don’t understand…or maybe they do and are just evil is that if you tax something you get less of it. If I work hard and get to keep my money I will want to work hard. If I work hard but don’t get to keep my money I won’t work as hard. Companies will lay off workers rather than become non profits. Higher taxes sinks all boats. Remember the luxury tax. People stopped buying big ticket items. It was the boat builders who almost went out of buiness.

His Aunt lives in a Boston slum, his brother lives in a box in Africa while Obama is a multi millionaire. What is holding him back?

I’m one who gave more to charity than Joe Biden and, of course, I make a lot less money than he does. Because Biden and Barak are calling me selfish, I decided that I will no longer give anything to any charities. They are calling me right and left and I tell them that if they can get Joe Biden to give then I will give. I also tell them not to worry because the government will soon take care of everything with tax dollars. Of course, letting the government administer money is like throwing it into a black hole. Barak also wants to give a percentage of GDP to the UN – another black hole. I hope working people survive Barak’s presidency if he wins.

I’m not selfish, I’m scared. I’m still clinging to my guns and religion and I plan on clinging to my money too!

Socialism doesn’t create wealth and prosperity – it consumes it.
America needs to have a final debate on this topic and maybe Obama has provided the platform.
Do Americans want a socialist state or a capitalist state? Socialist states eventually fail – pick up any history book. If that’s what Americans choose then so be it, but please call Obama’s economic policy what it is… Socialism.

I make over 250K a year so let me explain how this works. If my taxes go up, I fire my gardener. If they go up again, I fire my housekeeper. If they go up some more, I wash my own car and someone at the car wash loses a job.

What many people fail to realize is that the mess we are in now was created quite some time ago, by the DEMOCRATS and a DEMOCRATIC President. The was a law enacted in the 90s (before Bush) that made it MANDATORY for financial institutions to back sub-prime loans so that the less fortunate and less credit-deserving could buy houses. That is what created the housing boom and made many greedy people rich and left many other hanging in the breeze. We don’t need any more of these socialist policies. Remember what this country stands for? Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, not Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of welfare! If people earn it, they should be able to keep it! Everyone should pay the same percentage rate on their income, regardless of their gross! That is what capitolism is all about. Life isn’t meant to be fair. You want something, go out and earn it. If you have to work a loiilte harder, so be it! Success all comes down to how bad you want it, it shouldn’t be how bad someone wants to give it to you. There is nothing in our laws that indicate that the government or the people living here have to support you.

It’s alright. No need for us hardworking people to sweat it. Even if our (God forbid) newly elected Socailist/Marxist president “spreads” the wealth around, it will only take a very short time for it to go right back into the pockets from which it came.
For now, buy stock in Best Buy, Target, and Circuit City because that is where all of the “dole-out” money will go.
“A giant flat screen TV in every living-room” should be Obama’s slogan. That’s all it will be.
I doubt many of those he wants to give our money to will suddenly become industrialists and entrepreneurs.

To MiHi
I am a Dem & voted Obama, but I cant let your remark stand as it is STUPID
When my children would not share we went through this and their response would be you dont always share!
The answer is not that I am a republican, the answer is that I EARNED the MONEY to buy IT!

Posted by: evanz | Oct 31, 2008 3:03:08 PM:”The claim that rich people will fire employees due to a tax hike is ridiculous on the face of it. We are talking about personal income taxes, folks. If I’m a CEO of a Fortune 500 – tell me exactly why I start firing people because my income goes down? It seems nonsensical – and is obviously subterfuge. The top marginal tax rate will be raised to the level it was during the 90′s – which if we all remember was good times.”
Answers
The 90′s were “good times” due to the internet/dotcom boom which was the single greatest creation of wealth in history, and had nothing to do with Mr. Clinton.
And layoffs will occurr ad infinitem, and you know why. Ask yourselves, will a CEO do more to maintain his annual salary, or yours?
To maintain his, he’ll layoff experienced, higher paid workers, and higher less experienced/lower paid workers. They’ll cut less profitable portions of the company, such as security, customer service, etc. They will outsource much more abroad, to avoid higher Payroll Taxes and Mandatory Healthcare costs in the US.
I say this as I have already begun to cut back and have already obtained a dozen unemployment packets. This Wednesday will be a big day for at least 12 people.

My parents came from a socialist economy and sacrificed a lot so that me and my brother can have a chance at the American Dream. There is no way that I will let everything they have worked for and sacrificed to be in vain and have this amazing country turn into a socialist one because of Obama’s ideology. McCain/Palin 08!!!!

…In a higher phase of communist society… only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be fully left behind and society inscribe on its banners: from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs……..
….For the bureaucrat, the world is a mere object to be manipulated by him……
…The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion. ….
…The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism………
…The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property……..
….The production of too many useful things results in too many useless people……
…..History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce……..

Here’s an experiment my friend tried at the spur of the moment: He was walking down the street on his way to a local restaurant for lunch. On his way he saw a homeless man holding an “Obama” sign and asking people for money for something to eat. He got to the restaurant and sat down. His waiter walked up wearing an “Obama ’08″ tie and took his order. He ate his lunch and when the waiter brought the check he paid for his lunch. He then proceeded to let the waiter know that he was not going to tip him and that he was going to, instead, give his tip to someone who “needed” it more. The waiter walked off in a huff. Then, my friend walked back to the homeless man and gave him a ten dollar bill and asked him to walk into the restaurant and thank the waiter wearing the “Obama ’08″ tie for the ten dollars that he worked for. My friend walked away, but noticed that the man, instead, walked across the street to the liquor store. Thats very telling, folks!

Selfish? I’d have to google it, but doesn’t that sound similar to what Hugo Chavez said about the owners of land and companies before he took them over?

To Brent Mack, who said:
“Jeezus Charist!
I’ve never seen such SELFISH people in all my life. We’re talking about tinkering with a couple of percentage points in the tax code. What in the h@ll is wrong with you people?
These adjustments are made all of the time. But I never heard any whining when we were making adjustments to benefit those who already have plenty.
So you ought to just be quiet and quit making complete fools out of yourselves.
Your economically-retarded, SELFISH desires have already been discounted in the marketplace of ideas. And to believe otherwise is just an exercise in self-delusion.
I actually feel sorry for you people. But most of you will eventually regain your senses and come to see how ridiculous you look.”
It’s one thing to say that the Federal Government needs more money, so we are going to raise taxes on everyone. It’s another thing to say, we are going to raise taxes for some, and cut it for another. And then, it’s another thing to say that we are going to raise it for some, and then take that money and give it to others who don’t even pay tax to begin with. Even President Clinton wasn’t issuing checks to people who don’t pay taxes every year.

If you had any doubts about Obama’s socialistic views…Obama just confirmed what everyone suspected..he is a Socialist!!!

Obama wants to spend our money, but won’t give a dime of his own. He wants us to help fellow man and lend your brother a helping hand, but like most liberals, they never do what they preach. Obama has a brother in Kenya living in a grass hut who earns something like $1 a week or month. Where is Obama’s benevolence to his own flesh and blood brother? Good example-setting Obama. Good leade4rship. You really demonstrate how to live. You, Obama, are the selfish one. Likewise, he has an aunt living in the slums somewhere in the NE U.S. Why doesn’t he help her? He wants us to do it I guess. I have always learned that when people criticize others, like Obama calling those who don’t want to pay higher taxes to fund Obama’s reparations and socialistic agenda, they are usually saying more about their own selves than the ones they criticize.

After the Emancipation Proclamation, and Civil Rights, this is the gratitude that he gives back – Barack Obama wants to enslave the Amercan working class taxpayer, and those that resist are labeled “selfish”.
Reject Barack Obama.

If Obama wants real change, he can find out how selfish the American people are by giving everyone dollar for dollar tax credits for charitable contributions, and then we will see. Then we will see how much the role of government will “change” when we with generosity help the least of society without government’s “help”.

From Patrick: To all you charity advocates. You are not required to pay your tax burden…you can actually pay more if you would like, there is a place on your IRS form for you to pay MORE THAN YOUR TAX BURDEN. I ask all those who vote for Obama, in the spirit of charity, to pay an extra 10% of you taxes this year. Maybe then we selfish people can take a vacation over the next 4 years.
Patrick, that’s an excellent point, but allow me to take it a step further. How many of you Obama supporters out there received a tax refund earlier this year? Or a stimulus check this past spring? If you’re really supportative of Obama’s plans, why don’t you all just do the right thing and return those checks, refunds, etc. to the IRS? Put your words to actions.

Selfish is right. Except he is speaking of himself and those who support his policies. I admire and respect people who use their own money and resources to help the needy. I have little to no respect for those who take from others to make themselves appear compassionate.

BO keeps talking about redistributing everybody’s money. He also says he wants all of us to be rich. I am sure everybody reading this wants to be rich. I applaud you. But with his tax plan, then you will be giving your money to a socialist. Why would you want to give your money to someone who is waiting for a handout.

For those of your quoting the ’10% of American’s pay 70% of the taxes’ please be aware that these 10% make 90% of the money. (that’s what makes them in the top 10%)
So why are they only paying 70% of the taxes when they make 90% of the money??
Sounds selfish to me.

I wish there was a poll to show what percent of income the so-called selfish Republicans give to charity in comparison to dems. Let me go first. $100 a week to church, $50 a month to listener supported Christian radio, $57 monthly to compassion international organization and family values organization, and $25-50 monthly to random charitable causes – NOT SELFISH and not wanting to participate as receiver or giver of “spreading the wealth around”.

Response to “I Baja”:
It is also corporate taxes that are going up and 80% of the employed work for small businesses – so when their expenses go up they cut back on the number of employees. Sweden has LOWER corp. taxes than the US and they did that to get their economy going. Related to Personal Tax increases (Now the number is around $120,000, not $250,000, $200,000, $150,000 – I am waiting for next lower number) – service people normally hired will NOT be, e.g., interior decorators will be hired less because of less discretionary $$ – forced to close because of lack of clients, they end up unemployed. AND, if BHO will not even take care of his own family members – what makes you think he cares about you????

Have all of you forgotten Obama’s plan to tax all of us and give it to the U.N. for their “world poverty program”?
Billions a year taken from us so the U.N. can give it to some third world crap hole.
World wide socialism is knocking on our door and Obama wants to invite it in. DON’T let that happen!!

I swear by my Life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine.

Not wanting to pay taxes selfish? Am I still in America?
I guess that the next thing we will see is state controlled terminations of pregnancies.

Everyone cannot be rich but we can surely all be poor. Obama’s tax plan will bring everyone down to the same level. This is Marxism at it’s heart.

Is Joe Biden being selfish when he gives only $339 to charity? How can he be so darn cheap and then tell everyone else to pony up on taxes. Tax money gets sucked up by bloated government.

Just because we already have a progressive tax system doesn’t mean increasing it is ok.
The point is to shrink government, not grow it more. What’s the incentive for anyone at the 200k mark to work harder and make $250k? NONE. That’s why socialism eventually fails.
Ask Sweden, a socialist republic that is falling apart at the seems from social programs.
Don’t be confused by these comments on here. Spreading your wealth IS good. Someone else spreading it for you IS NOT!

I am in the middle class. But I smart enough to know that the top 1 % of taypayers pay *** 39% *** of all taxes. The top 1% own no where near 39% of the wealth in this country. The top 25% pay 86% of all taxes. To say they aren’t doing their fair share is illogical.

I find those who complain about the wealth disparity in this country to be bitter, jealous, and envious. Were a person to gain wealth at the true expense of another, then I too hold them in contempt. But not all rich people got rich in that way; in fact the majority have not.
I am unemployed, living off my savings, the land, my hunting and fishing prowess, and my wits. I would never ask that another man pay even a penny to subsidize any of my needs or desires.
I am fortunate to have no mortgage (paid it off when I was employed and times were better), no grand material desires, and no want of another man’s earnings. I am not jealous of the wealth of others; I am thankful for that which I already have.

Anyone recall the amount of charity Mr. Biden gave? I know it was something redic small so maybe Mr. Obama should take a long hard look at his ticket before spouting off about selfishness (he has plenty of other reasons to “regret” his #2 choice, Biden = gaffa minute)

I really don’t need liberal elite’s like Obama and Biden preaching to me about selfishness. Sen Obama why don’t you practice what you preach about sharing the wealth. Obviously you’ve forgotten about your aunt who lives in a Boston housing project and your step brother who lives in a hut in Kenya. Sen Biden what contributing some of your wealth to charitable causes? I guess it’s okay to spend other peoples money, but not your own.
If you liberal elitists want to pay more in taxes be my guess, but leave the rest of us who already pay our fair share in taxes and work hard for our money alone.

The way the lower limit on “rich” is dropping, he will soon say we *all* should be less “selfish”.
Tell you what I’m gonna do tonight. When the kids come for treats, I’m going to take half their candy and give it to kids who stayed home and didn’t “work for it”. Think the kids think that’s “Fair”?

Look, as far as Barack Obama’s concerned, the American Constitution is to be revered. It was constructed by the Founding Fathers in time of great national crisis and it’s floating at a dock in Charlestown MA.

Sharing is a generous act of selflessness. Giving to charity is a selfless act. Resenting a government for taking more of my money because they want to use it in a WASTEFUL way is not only not selfish, it is PATRIOTIC! Come on people, the government was never intended, nor is it well equipped to be a charity! Preparing for the common defense, promoting the general welfare and ensuring the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity can be done in a much more cost effecitve manner with much less than the government currently demands.

I can’t stand Obama – this entire campaign has been a creation of Axlerod and the media and Obama is just their front man. Inside information confirming this has been leaking out from disillusioned Obama campaign workers.
What Obama really seems to believe based on this long associations with people like Jeremiah Wright, Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, etc., woudn’t even have beat Hillary in the caucuses – that they stole anyway.

How Obama’s plan will hurt businesses …
Case in point …
Fall 2008 issue – Entrepreneur Mag highlights an Army nurse who owns a hospice franchise after seeing the need in her community. She’s very selective whom she hires and picks people who can really use the opportunity (great pay, training and benefits) and have an excellent work ethic. Most of her employees are single moms and she’s giving them a shot at having their own franchises. Her hard work and success has been rewarded — she’s on target to make $900k this year. Obama’s plan will suffocate any future growth and make her reconsider whether it’s best to scale back. A hard-working woman providing a service to the community, with employees who would otherwise be struggling to make ends meet.
Obama may not think he’s killing the American Dream, but he will be if he’s elected.

The claim that rich people will fire employees due to a tax hike is ridiculous on the face of it. We are talking about personal income taxes, folks. If I’m a CEO of a Fortune 500 – tell me exactly why I start firing people because my income goes down?
Posted by: I Baja
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Ok, I’ll tell you, I Baha, since you obviously don’t know anything about business taxes. I own a small business, an S corp, which requires me, as an individual filing, to pay the company’s taxes. Many other small business owners face the same situation. If my company’s taxes increase by $50,000, then I have to cut $50,000 just to maintain the same profit and loss ratio. that’s at least one employee and their health benefits. that former employee then can get Obama’s consolation prize: a $500-$1000 handout (middle class tax credit?). I think if the people knew the truth, they’d rather have the job than a relatively small govt. check.

CHANGE…In the late 1950′s most Cubans thought Cuba needed “a change” and they were right. So when a young, dynamic leader came along, every Cuban was at least receptive. When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the old system, the press fell in love with him. They never questioned who his friends were or what he really believed in. He said he would help the farmers and the poor and bring free medical care and education to all, and everyone followed. He said he would bring justice and equality to all, and everyone said “Praise the Lord!” The young leader said, “I will be for change and I’ll bring you change,” and everyone yelled, “Viva Fidel!” But by the time the executioner’s guns went silent, the people’s guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. By the time “the change” was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status. By the time the change was over more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes. Luckily, we in America would never fall for a young leader who promised change without asking, “what change?” Would we?

Remember in 2011, the Bush tax cuts will expire and Congress and BO will not make them permanent. So folks EVERYBODY’S taxes will go up!!!

No Obama you are soo wrong…
how dare you call me selfish…
you are a very selfish individual.. and all righteous with “other peoples money”..
Again..
stay away from my 401k…
stay away from my private health care.. and please please please stay out of my personal life..
we don’t want you Obama… and this country doesn’t need a new deal, new socialism, new welfare… it’s been tried…
everytime socialism is tried it fails..
long live …. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness
Individual freedom over collectivism… no to socialism.. No to Obama..

Sounds like a lot of angry conservatives on here.

Jay, there are alot of people who WANT TO KEEP their money

Strange. When the government gives incentives for business to expand their workforce or site (tax credits – tifs – infrustructure) it changes to corporate welfare. Speaker of the House Nacy Pelosi placed an exemption to the federal minimum wage legislation for the Island of Guam. Why? It seems two of the nation’s top producers of tuna or fruit have their packing plants there and based in San Francisco (Del Monte – Chicken of the Sea) Tax credits have been provided for establishing business and manufacturing plants in the inner city as an incentive to bring business in and hire people who pay taxes and regrow the area.
Someone define rich. The current theme is defined as the people who make more than the voter listening to Obama. They had a quote of a Obama supporter who was interviewed after his 30 minute infomercial. She stated, ” Now I don’t have to worry about paying for gas or paying for my mortgage because Barrack is going to take care of it for me!”
I wish we would have someone look over the earnings tax returns of Democrats and Republicans to see who gives more to charity. That would be interesting.

If Biden, who claims to be a devout Catholic, goes to church each week and puts a little money in the plate as it is passed, he only puts in $6 per week.
6 bucks, thats it, $6 a week and nothing else to anyone. He lives in a huge house and is in the top 2% yet he cannot spare more than $300 a year in charity?
Charity starts at home Barry.

As much as Rand hated the socialists and even worked in Goldwater’s campaign, she despised the GOP’s religious revival and urged people to vote against Ronald Reagan because of his bowing to the religious zealots.
Often, taking away a woman’s right to choose can be worse than raising her taxes by a few percent!

This country was in part founded because there was taxation without representation.
Ironic that with a large percentage of Americans paying no tax at all, we have the opposite problem of representation without taxation.
Time for a flat tax for all

Hey, OBAMA…try not being selfish with your OWN RELATIVES.
When the state determines what you can and can’t do with your money, it is theft. They did not ASK you for it. They are determining what you will do with your money. Period.
Charity comes from the HEART. Charity is something Americans have always done, borne out of a biblical worldview. NOT THE STATE and not for those who do not work.

Wow, for such a selfless guy he sure has a nice 1.6 million mansion in Chicago.
Maybe he should look in the mirror.

The richest 10% of the population already pay 70% of the total tax revenue.
Already there’s more people riding in the proverbial cart then pulling it, and you socialist idiots think that the rich need to be punished because it’s “what is fair.”
It’s not your money, it’s theirs. If you want your own, go earn it.

Here’s an economic lesson for all you that are against tax breaks for corporations.
Cutting taxes allows them to expand and make more revenue. It’s been proven time and again.
Increase revenues means more tax revenue for the govt.
It also means economic growth and more jobs. More jobs = more tax revenue and less people on welfare/social programs.
Cutting taxes, increasing Govt budget pool, and more jobs for Americans. What’s not to like about that other than less control from the Govt…

I wonder which financial advisor wrote The One’s dumb script for him? Marxist philosophy…..try to hide it. You can’t.

OBAMANATION’S AUNT IS LIVING IN A SLUM RIGHT HERE IN UNITED STATES
AND HE CALLS US SELFISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m starting to believe that a lot of the liberal comments on these forums are Obama campaign workers — or maybe they’re college kids living off of their parents who don’t understand life. I don’t believe the majority of people are that inept at basic math and economics. I don’t believe most people are so stupid they can’t recognize reality when it is smacking them upside the head. These people look at a blue sky and say “The sky is orange.”

“All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.”
Sheer Orwellian.

Poor People: GO OUT AND WORK!!!!!!!!! Anyone can get a job! Obama – why reward the lazy! They are going to WASTE everyone else’s money and they will never LEARN to work hard and will never MAKE anything out of themselves because everything will be HANDED to them! So, why work????

REMEMBER IN 2011, THE BUSH TAX CUTS WILL EXPIRE AND CONGRESS AND bo WILL NOT MAKE THEM PERMANENT. SO REMEMBER FOLKS EVERYBODY’S TAXES WILL GO UP EVEN THE ONES MAKING $50,000!!!

The cake is a lie.

OBAMA EARNED OVER $1 MILLION DOLLARS AND CONTRIBUTED ONLY $300 TO CHARITY!!
WHO THE HELL IS HE TO LECTURE US ON
“SELFISHNESS”!!??
THIS GUY IS A SCAM!

Freedom, or equality. Can’t have both. And everyone is worse off under an ‘equal system’. Proven time and time again.
Well, not everyone- since some people are ‘more’ equal than others… Rich people love socialism- government controls more, and money buys favors, loopholes, tax breaks, etc.
Choice is yours America- a free country, or a land of equally poor folks lorded over by our ‘betters’

As a Democrat, I am Proud to say that I have voted Republican for President for the First time since 1988.
John McCain is a Patriot.
Barack Obama is a Demagogue.
My home state of Florida will be going for John McCain.

Strange. When the government gives incentives for business to expand their workforce or site (tax credits – tifs – infrustructure) it changes to corporate welfare. Speaker of the House Nacy Pelosi placed an exemption to the federal minimum wage legislation for the Island of Guam. Why? It seems two of the nation’s top producers of tuna or fruit have their packing plants there and based in San Francisco (Del Monte – Chicken of the Sea) Tax credits have been provided for establishing business and manufacturing plants in the inner city as an incentive to bring business in and hire people who pay taxes and regrow the area.
Someone define rich. The current theme is defined as the people who make more than the voter listening to Obama. They had a quote of a Obama supporter who was interviewed after his 30 minute infomercial. She stated, ” Now I don’t have to worry about paying for gas or paying for my mortgage because Barrack is going to take care of it for me!”
I wish we would have someone look over the earnings tax returns of Democrats and Republicans to see who gives more to charity. That would be interesting.

Patriotism
Barry and Joe have never had a real job…oh I know Acorn, ok I will call that a job. Oh and he is a constitutional law professor, that is a joke.
These two have been taking all of their lives and now when they have the chance they are going to take more then the ever dreamed.
2 of the most liberal senators ever—what do you expect.

Aunt lives in a slum and brother lives on a dollar a month in squalor and we’re selfish?
Barry wants YOUR money so he doesn’t have to part with his.
What a hypocrite!

NO TO SOCIALISM AND/OR WORSE! NOBAMA IN 08! PRAY FOR AND FIGHT FOR AMERICA’S FREEDOM! “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.”
Ronald Reagan

Hits it out of the park … 12 mins but well worth it … pass it along
Go to Little Green Footballs and
Scroll down to “A Message From …”

Which one of you is going to buy me my new car? Where’s that flat screen the Barrack said I deserved?
!What do you mean I have to get a job, I’m sorry I’m waiting for something in management to open up.

REMEMBER IN 2011, THE BUSH TAX CUTS WILL EXPIRE AND CONGRESS AND bho WILL NOT MAKE THEM PERMANENT. SO REMEMBER FOLKS EVERYBODY’S TAXES WILL GO UP EVEN THE ONES MAKING $50,000!!!

What the heck is he saying?
Why am I selfish to work and keep my own money?
I was once on welfare and I know well too many people who will forever depend on welfare.
Mr. OBAMA, people don’t get off welfare because it’s free money for the lazy people. No matter how much you want to tax us.
Being Lazy is for me SELFISHNESS.
I am not rich, but I don’t need tax money from rich people. OK??

has anyone looked at obama’s hands? he has the softest hands I’ve ever seen on a man. He hasn’t done any hard work in his life. John McCain and Sarah Palin have hands that are used to hard work. That tells me both of them have a good work ethic. Anyone who has soft hands doesn’t know the value of a day’s pay for a day’s work. He would rather take someone else’s money than work for it himself.

“I Baja” – I apologize….
I meant to respond to “evenz”…..used to having the posters name above their post and not below it….

How this vacuous tool continues to fool the dolts in this country is beyond me. Barack Obama is a SOCIALIST…call it it was it is and stop with this “progressive” crap. The man wants to take from the people he deems “rich” and give it to those he deems “middle class”…..

Corporation don’t pay the taxes, we do in the form of higher prices. Too many people/papers/news supporting Obama is afraid of be called racists, but I really don’t care what the rest of the world thinks and WILL NOT support a socialist. He has outlined many failed programs from their past that he wants to return to the table like a new bill of rights and restrict the freedom of speech of anyone who don’t support Obama. Raising taxes will hit the Middle class and Poor terribly when Small Business will stop hiring and firing people to ensure they make ends meet! Obama has said he does not support the Constitution, since it limits his Power to do what he wants! That allow should ensure he never gets any further in Government!

You guys are terrific – my favorites so far (really too many coming too fast to keep up):
Posted by: Ryan | Oct 31, 2008 3:28:14 PM – Obama needs to share his campaign funds
Posted by: Giovanni Bartucchi | Oct 31, 2008 3:24:33 PM – what we know about Joe the Plumber vs. what we know about Obama

I pray to God I’m around for the next revolution, when the socialists in America finally get what they deserve.

i work like a dog and work for myself…..the government is supposed to work for ME NOT ME for the government..

I am not rich, but get by because that I want to be. “We”, “Everybody”, “All”, these are scare words. Socialist or Communist or not, they love these words. At first, it sound hemonous and utophia world, and that what exactly IT. In reality, ideas of everybody should share its wealth is obsurd at best. America that I know and love because of its known principle “Valunteer”, and it do not impoose on it citizens to share its wealth and it should be it it that way. When one force others to do things that not longer pure heart and it will develope rebellent.

Obama-ites: I propose this test to demonstrate whether this is “Do as I say, not as I do.”
If it’s truly “patriotic” and such a higher calling to pay taxes, lead us by example! Why not ask all “Blue” people to forego claiming ANY deductions on their income tax returns this year. Just use the 1040 EZ form (no itemized deductions – even if they are legally entitled to them). Take only the personal and dependent exemptions and let Uncle Sam keep what they’ve over-paid.
Then when they realize others won’t be doing likewise, watch how any “selfish” people will suddenly materialize.

So now we’re selfish? My husband and I are in our mid-60s, retired, and living on our retirement and SS. We live modestly, own an older RV we can’t afford to take out except once a year. We give to our church and donate money, food, clothing and time.
I paid for my ENTIRE BA by working 40 hours a week and going to school at night. I have a $34,000.00 student loan for my Master’s, which I received in 2005. The payments come out of my retirement check.
Obama has two relatives living in squalor, a half-brother and an aunt.
Practice what you preach, Obama!!

We have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and the purpose of the government is to protect our basic rights and promote the common good. That’s according to the United States Constitution. When did the government get the right to take my money and give it to someone else? Most people who are well off have had to work hard to get there and that’s the way it should be! What happens when you help a butterfly out of a cocoon? It dies. Government handouts do not promote the common good — they reward failure and penalize success. If you don’t like capitalism, please move to a socialist country. There are plenty to choose from.

Selfish??? Is that why your brother lives on $3 a month, your aunt lives in squalor???
You have over $639,000,000 yet you continue to demand more donations???
Barry you are PATHETIC and UNAMERICAN.
Obama will DESTROY THIS COUNTRY!!!
VOTE McCAIN PALIN–The REAL HOPE for this country.

To the comments Posted by: George | Oct 31, 2008 3:35:09 PM
You’re the reason I love this country so much. Well stated! Somebody gets it!

The rhetoric gushing from this man is nothing less than amazing. What is even more amazing, scary actually, is that there is such a large number of ignorant, ill-informed people who are going to vote for him based on that rhetoric. It is they who are going to decide this election. Obama knew from the beginning how to manipulate these people. The future of this nation is dismal and I see nothing but turmoil and conflict internally for many years to come. I truly do not think that the American people will tolerate the “changes” he and the Democratically controlled government will force upon us. Whether it will lead to violence will depend upon the methods he will employ to amend the constitution and the means with which he will try to implement those amendments. We are a nation divided over great issues and Obama’s election will polarize us further. If he and his nearly single party government begin laying down their agendas against the will of the majority of Americans, I believe most people will be awakened and civil disobedience will begin on a grand scale.

OBAMA=SOCIALIST=GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF YOUR MONEY=YOU WILL PAY MORE, MORE, MORE. THE WELFARE STATE DOES NOT WORK!!!
OBAMA’S PLATFORM IS INHERENTLY EVIL AND ANTI-AMERICAN

What’s happened to the party of JFK?

What’s more selfish, a hard working American who wants to keep alittle more of what they earn, or the non-working American who wants a piece of what someone earned?
Welcome to America, if you want something…go earn it. Handouts are for losers.

Obama should know that the rich don’t earn their money, by and large, through salaries — they earn much more in interest, dividend and capital gains.
Hence raising personal tax rates doesn’t impact the rich but will hurt the middle class. I know Obama now states that he will not raise taxes on those earning less than $250k. But hello Obama fans: that will prove out a lie based on a longstanding reality. First, he is going to raise capital gains tax, and for much of the middle class, that will hurt. Then on top of that with all this new spending and spreading the wealth around, the middle class is going to get hit/socked with more taxes, guaranteed.
The dirty little secret in politics going back 30+ years is if you are the Federal Government and you need more tax receipts, it is the middle class (not the rich) that will pay. There simply are not enough rich and super-rich out there to make a material difference in tax receipts in terms of marginal rates on income. The lion’s share of income taxes is and will continue to be paid by the middle class.
Maybe Obama will be the American wunderkind President that many proponents dream of, but the bottom line is his economic policies with respect to taxing and spending (and lying about it, ostensibly not hitting the middle class) is pretty traditional Democratic fare that won’t hold water when all the facts are in. Unfortunately, the majority of the American people, who by the way are middle class, are 1) apparently too stupid to see it or 2) have other economic interests that put them firmly in the court of the trial lawyers, teacher’s unions and big labor or 3) are paranoid about Row v Wade being overturned notwithstanding it is “settled law” according to the Chief Justice.
It would be nice that we had a President that cared about building on American strengths and not playing to special interests that will not in the long run support better education, more competitive industry and more effective tort systems.
Se la vie…the good news is Obama inherits what the Democrats have reaped in terms of failed Fannie and Freddie and now nearly 20% of American homeowners are underwater in large part because the subprime mess and putting people in homes they cannot afford has consequences, though Barney Frank, Charles Shumer, Chris Dodd and Nancy Pelosi will clearly beg to differ.
Anyway that makes Obama a lame duck on Day One of his Presidency, and when he sucks as a President, we can then move on.

This is one ‘selfish’ veteran and proud of it.
I served my country and earned less than 10K a year. Worked my way through college and bettered myself….and this guy has the NERVE to call me SELFISH. The only SERVICE OBAMA has is to serve HIMSELF.
I work 60-80 weeks for what I earn and am by no means ‘rich’; but what I earn is MINE.
If Barak Hussen OBAMA wants to take it way from me then what is my incentive to work. I will just hop on the welfare wagon.
But I can’t do that, I am to PROUD. I don’t want someone else to work for me, I just want to keep what is MINE. When OBAMA starts taking $$$ from the 5% that pays 95% of the taxes, these people are going to leave….
With passport in hand I ‘SELFISHLY wait for Tuesday.

@ bartonizer, who wrote: “How much of a disparity of income needs to exist in our country before some of you cry “foul”? The trickle-down effect is BS. Bush’s tax cuts aimed at the wealthy, and you can see the results. OF COURSE a super wealthy candidate wants to keep their tax cuts. Do you really think that a corporate CEO that makes $5 million a year provides new jobs with his or her tax cut? We’re in a recession, and it’s the rich people that need help? For most of us in the middle, a tax cut sounds pretty good.”——————————————
You are quite wrong in your statement that ‘trickle down’ does not work. In fact, history has told us that when you cut taxes, even on the higher marginal tax rates, gross tax revenues DO increase. I am referencing an article by the Joint Economic Committee from 1996 comparing the results of the Reagan tax cuts of 1981 to the tax increases of Clinton in 1993. The proof is in the numbers.

I want to know why Obama wasn’t spreading his wealth around if he believes it is patriotic to do so and selfish if you don’t. I guess by his description he and Michele are selfish people and always have been. There were plenty of people in his church and in his community that he could have given to. LOL. What a FAKE OBAMA IS.
As it is, I am hearing that my state and city will be taxing me more next year and now Obama, IF elected, wants to tax me too. If he plans on taking away the Bush tax cuts and give me some of the wealth he wants to spread around, I figure I will end up paying more.
I pray Obama loses!

The people who take the tax dollars from others are mostly LAZY and ENVIOUS! Is that better than selfish?

I guess I’m selfish, since I don’t want to give more money to The Barackocracy to dole out. Funny, I gave nearly 10% of my AGI to charity the last five years (AGI >$100k per year). I’m satisfied to give to charities of my choosing because I have some idea that the money is actually reaching the intended target. For instance, this year my church sent a mission to Thailand and we “purchased” the freedom of 65 children out of the sex slave industry and had them placed in a Christian orphanage where they can grow and learn. No government involved, no bureaucratic red tape, no PR campaign or advertising, we just did it. There is no way a US government program could have accomplished this with the small amount of funds we spent. Obama has no interest in really helping anyone but himself. Just check out his level of charitable contributions. He gave a whopping 3.85% of his AGI to charity from 2000 to 2006 (look it up, liberals!)I’m glad he gave, I just think it is the height of hypocrisy to call us “selfish” when his own giving is such a poor example.

Let me just be heard people! If the rich spent their money enough to keep this economy moving Barack would not have a leg to stand on. The fact is they don’t! The rich are only concerned with the rich, Hell, they consider everyone else, not the middle class, but rather the working class. They accumulate more money by leveraging it in investment while they count on the working class to stay working so they can continue to make more money. That’s the way the economy works and there’s nothing wrong with that. Except that the working class are getting the shorter end of the stick every day. The working class make up the majority, so you do the math. Whose putting in the most tax dollars to fund the government? Some of you might say, “well I only pay less than $15,000 a year in taxes” I’m not getting taxed too much.” Multiply your $15,000 by 50 million working class Americans, now the math starts to make sense… Ah haaaa!

The Audacity of Deceit by Barack Obama

Ayn Rand: “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
~Thomas Jefferson~

REMEMBER IN 2011, THE BUSH TAX CUTS WILL EXPIRE AND CONGRESS AND bo WILL NOT MAKE THEM PERMANENT. SO REMEMBER FOLKS EVERYBODY’S TAXES WILL GO UP EVEN THE ONES MAKING $50,000!!!

How is Sen Obamas Grandmother doing? I have been worried, but have not heard anything. Anyone have an update?

The board is slightly screwed up…I see may comments to Ed come out as posted by diane and someone elses come out as CT…weird.
CT It seems the board is already giving things away under someone elses name. LOL!

You want Change?
That’s all you’ll have left in your pocket after Obama gets through.

LOL SUSAN: On April 15 all us “selfish” people should be “patriotic”, slap a smile on our faces and PAY PAY PAY! The messiah will spend our money wiser then we will.
NOBAMA NOBAMA NOBAMA

Aengil…
Don’t know what news you’ve been reading but Obama want’s to shove his tax ideas and fix-it ideas down our throats and he isn’t asking us a thing. He knows better what to do to my money than I do Right????? Duh!
So you say his half brother should be respected for what he wants? Do you think that OBAMA wants to respect the rest of us for what we want?…
How about respecting the guy who likes his health coverage… how about respecting the tax payer’s hard earned cash.
You further make my point but anybody who has a pair of balls and a millionaire and gives a crap about his family would insist on coming to the aid of someone so destitute. Obviously it wasn’t that important to “The ONE”.
But with OUR MONEY HE CAN BE A HERO to the WORLD! YIPEEEEEEE! …. Fools all!

I have worked hard my entire life. I struggled to pay for college, took out a loan(I am still repaying) and I currently drive a 10 year old car. I pay my bills, bought a house, and have a job, never once asking for a goverment hand out.
People need to take responsibility for their actions. Spreading the wealth is a term for welfare. My solution, cut welfare, and make everyone get a job.

Posted by: Greg: “Are you deaf? It is 39% versus 35%!!! 4% difference makes the difference between socialism and capitalism???”
Greg, you have great skill in persuading the masses. They must ultimately trust the Obama’s promises of goodies and gifties. Your service has been noted and you will be contacted should an appointment come open once the Obama wins.

Forrest — excellent comment. I’m with you brother. I make over $100,000 a year — soon to be in the super wealthy classification — by next week at the rate it has been coming down. We have been cutting way back on expenses also. Of course that’s the trend all over as the consumer spending numbers show. Let’s see how trickle up economics works. Let’s see, the government takes our money and after wasting half of it on the bureaucracy they give it to welfare recipients who spend it. So the money goes back into the market after the government gets its cut. Meanwhile the money I paid in taxes could have gone to an investment in my business, such as a new employee or compensation for an existing employee. The individual getting the welfare check might have gotten that check plus the government’s cut from an employer. So who is the winner? The government and only the government.

Last week, that lisping fool Barney Frank said that wealthy Americans would be ASKED to pay higher taxes. If they’re just asking, can we just say no?

“A liberal’s compassion is limited ONLY by the size of YOUR wallet”!

Selfishness? It’s selfishness not to want the government to raise your taxes? Whatever!

Al Kelly: “anybody who has a pair of balls and a millionaire and gives a crap about his family would insist on coming to the aid of someone so destitute.”
Obama’s half brother ISN’T destitute. “They are comparing the way I live to the way he lives,” he said. “They compare my world with his world. I have a good life. It’s not like I live in the gutter. I’m happy with the way I live.”
How are you not getting this?

I find it odd that democrats accuse others of selfishness when they donate less of their income to charity than do republicans.
The idea that not wanting to pay taxes is as selfish as not wanting to flush it down the toilet.
What you tax, you get less of. What you subsidize, you get more of. What is Obama talking about taxing, and what is he talking about subsidizing?

FACT: Americans give more money than any other country in the world but Obama calls us selfish!
JFK: Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country. [selfless people]
BO: Ask not what you can do for your country – ask what your country can do for you. [selfish people]

Bruce says “Warren Buffett and Paul Volker and Robert Rubin and General Powell are all supporters and endorsers and advisors of Senator Obama. Now that is a cabal of Communists and terrorists! “.
These guys are cringing in their skin for supporting Obama. I am curious as to how they feel now after they have heard obama’s “redistributive change”. Nothing is as clear as that recording. Socialism is a belief that Obama internalizes. That is why he will lose this election.

Description of those who want others to support them through their hard work by paying higher taxes: ‘Selfishness’

I think I’m voting for Joe The Plumber. Why you ask? I know more about every aspect of this mans life (including what time he normally goes to the bathroom) than what Barrack Obama’s real name is, where he was born and what schools he has attended.

Using logic seen on this post…
I’m in the 28% tax bracket, I pay more in taxes than someone in the 25% bracket. I earned that money through hard work, and the government has no right to take the extra above what someone in the 25% bracket pays. Thus, Bush and company are Socialists.
In addition to the extra taxes I pay, some of it is being redistributed to services and programs to be used by others less fortunate, and of which I have no use for, such as education (I have no children), unemployment funds (I have a job), and Social Security (which will be drained by the time I retire). Thus, the Bush administration is Socialist.

Aengil: Just because someone who has two rats to rub together thinks they’re rich doesn’t make them lucky to have two rats. Obama’s brother may be happy and that’s great, but stop suggesting that his destitute family members are out of bounds for discussion. If I had a family member living in squalor, as he has at least two, they would be cared for. His are not, particulary his poor projects-bound aunt.

Obama increasingly makes no sense. His economic plan is built on sand. People need to think long and hard about their support for this very dangerous political figure. False messiahs come a dime a dozen, but seldom do they get this far. Thanks, media, for covering his sorry behind.

TO: Not like most of these republicans -
You are so naive.

Breaking News: Internal polls shows McCain gaining ground and about to shock Obama and the world.
Joe American

It’s amazing to me that you lefties work so hard to justify taking MY hard earned money in the name of fairness. While there are more than a few trust fund babies out there, I am not one of them. I’ve gone to college, footed the bill myself I may add, and struggled my way to the top.

Allison: Obama’s grandmother is still wedged under the bus where he threw her during his Gettysburg-like speech on race

Do as I say, NOT as I do!!!!!
Hey Dems, when you give all your money to the government, I will be right behind you. Let’s get the big O to set the example and live a life of poverty. Let him turn over his assets to the government. I would follow him for life then.

Obama is a very demented or very ill informed individual. I believe the saying “rising tide raises all boats” was popularized by Reagan who dramatically cut taxes for everyone, mostly the rich. Top marginal rate went from 70% to 28% during his eight years in office and economy grew an average of 3.4% during Reagan’s tenure. We cannot afford the huge recession that would be brought on by raising top marginal tax rates to 39%. The rich already pay the greatest share of the government’s budget, while the poor pay no taxes. A tax cut for someone paying no taxes is called WELFARE!

Posted by: Unselfish: regarding Powell.
I have this gut feel that he endorsed Obama b/c the Dems want to try those involved in the Iraq war for war crimes. Maybe I’m nuts, but they’ve been discussing the possibility off an on on NPR for the last 3 months (mainly of there being arrests if those in the admin were abroad). Just the other day, a NZ university hosted Condi Rice, and a throng of students pursued Rice to arrest her for war crimes (there was a $ reward involved). Perhaps that’s why Scott McClellan endorsed him as well.
Maybe I’m waay off the mark, but I was wondering …

If you haven’t, please read Ayn Rand’s book, The Virtue of Selfishness. Then you can decide for youself if Obama is a socialist.

If you are under 30 and not an easily swayed, doe-eyed, ignorant liberal you have no heart :), if you are over 30 and not a savvy, well educated, informed Conservative you have no brain :).
My corillary is, if you are under 30 and vote you are a minority (only 10%), if you are over 30 and vote you are a majority (more than 40%).
Wow! I wish youth was not wasted on the young!

Hey folks stating that we don’t get it and this is only for people making 250k or more. That number has gone down to 150k already according to Biden. This is a moveable number and the concern here is not over the number 250k or more, it’s the idea behind it. What will he do when 250k is too high? You guessed it, he will go down to the $40k’s, he already approved additional taxes on that income.
What you have to realize is that the gov’t collects about 19% in taxes as a relation to GDP. Every time taxes are lowered, GDP rises and every time they are increased it shrinks. 19% of a bigger pie is more money for the gov’t any way you slice it. So, if he really wants more money and does not want to punish people with higer taxes, tell me why he is raising taxes? Tell me the one time in history that an increase in taxes has lead to economic prosperity. Look it up, no time exists.

Obama is going to take away Bush’s tax cut so how is it that I am not going to be taxed more?

At least he’s admitting that he wants to take my money so his beneficiaries can buy a new car and a boat. I already can’t afford a new car or a boat. Figures that he thinks people who work for a living are not worthy to keep the fruit of our labor, so freeloaders can buy new cars and boats.
Socialist pig.

I do not want to pay higher taxes and you are calling me selfish….you are sure free with others money, especially when your own half brother lives in a shack , your aunt lives in a slum dwelling in South Boston and you have not gone back to even offer a word of encouragement or money for a matter of fact and you want to call me selfish, you hypocrite. This is the number one reason I choose to vote against you. All you offer me as a citizen for the so-called product you and your Socialistic/Marxist cronies is higher prices, not better services, not better government, and definitely not more control over my individuality which I enjoy.
This is America, a Republic where opportunities are equal, one just has to find them for ones skill set. Not the land of entitlement which is a copy of the socialistic governments that have been subsidized by America since WWII, you seem to pattern your beliefs on. They enjoy whatever they have because of our demand for products, services and our benevolence in rebuilding them after WWII. Your mantra is based on power and control not benevolence, which you hope to use as the hook in selling yourself to the unknowing during this election.
So on November 4th I will cast my vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin

Bored on the Right: Why can’t you grasp that Obama’s half-brother isn’t living in squalor? Let me repeat: “I have a good life. It’s not like I live in the gutter.” “They say I live on a dollar a month, but this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win.” “I don’t want to look to him for help, I want to achieve things for myself.” Those are direct quotes from his half-brother from three different sources.
If his half-brother was dying of starvation and Obama knew and hadn’t even attempted to help him, you might have a point. But that’s just not how it is. Obama’s half-brother is happy, healthy, and doesn’t want a thing from Obama. Get over it.

Everyone in the USA has access to college and healthcare. This man is trying to rewrite the USA. You can’t make a poor man rich by making a rich man poor. We all have the same opportunities. If people want to be socialist and spread the wealth, how bout spreading it in Europe..not here. I don’t want Obama and any of his ideas. I wish he would just go away.

Aengil: Please explain how you know so much about Obama’s family?

He made 4.2 million and gave 1.0% to charity.
The best way to determine what a person will do in the future is to look at his past.
Obama’s tradition of stiffing “the least of these” goes back as far as the tax records he has released to date.
His stance on abortion further substanciates the fact that he has conformed himself to this world.
He is a Democrat first and a Christian later.

I cast my vote today against Marxism!
It felt good, but I mourn today for all of the idiots who are voting FOR Marxism, without realizing what they’re voting for — all for the mantra of “Change” or shouts of “Yes we can”.
I can take 10 points out of the Communist Manifesto and say them back to a typical “moderate” Obama voter, not tell them where I got them, and 9 out of 10 would say it’s a bad idea! Of course, I exclude the dyed in the wool Socialists, like Comrade Pelosi and company. People know not what they vote for.
Get it people, BUSH isn’t running anymore! You can drop it now.
The communists will have to pry my money out of my cold dead hands before I’ll agree to redistribute it. It makes me “SELFISH” in their eyes, and SO BE IT!!!

I don’t care if this is only for people making $250K, or $150K, or whatever it’s gone down to now. It’s the principle of the thing. Once you concede that the fruits of anyone’s labor is the government’s to divvy up to each according to their need, then you condemn us all to live as sacrificial animals to the welfare state.

Weird, how some republicans here are so ignorant and angry…of course, they are loosing the power grip. The old world of bully power is slipping away.
But hey, it is not and never been in American culture to SHARE. That is why the country is in such a mess today. And, guess what, it’s going to get even worse if you will not let go of your useless anger, and learn to SHARE instead of giving your hard earned money away to corrupt bankers and CEO’s who, as selfish as you are, run away with them. I am laughing at you people, because i see changes coming.
OBAMA all the way!!!

There are 2 things I don’t understand, someone, especially Dems explain to me:
1. Obama said he’ll take care of you by giving you a $500/individual or $1000/family, but before he can do that, he asks you to give him the money to run his campaign. How much did you give him to get $500 or $1000 back?
2. You Dems always complaint about Corp CEO making millions per year but I haven’t heard anything about the Hollywood actors/actreses making millions per movie, what say you?

Sorry Obama, but as a self employed business man, you aren’t going to get anymore money from me than the gov’t is already getting. That’s just the way it is. I’m not going to work my tail off just to turn around and give you more taxmoney to hand out to the leisure crowd left that is your primary voting base. I don’t let the Obamas of the world dictate to me on what I should pay in taxes.

Obama has become a master of this technique. He did not argue that he is not a socialist. He ridiculed the idea by saying that people call him a communist because he shared his toys in kindergarten is one recent example of this.
Now we have Obama ridiculing people who do not like paying taxes by pointing at them and saying that they are selfish.
I’ll have do admit that use of ridicule is brilliant. Most people just see it as funny. They fail to see it for what it really is. They fail to see that it is way of not having to defend their position. It is brilliant but it also very dangerous.

Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged was once required reading in the US. It still ought to be — to at least comptete with the mindless propogandist literature of the left. If you have not read it, please do. You may disagree with much of what Rand espouses, but consider the interesting premise of the novel — what if the people who create the new businesses, the people who invent new technologies, what if they went on strike? What if they say “No more, we refuse”? To the socialist mind, this is inconceivable, and to the extent it is conceivable their reaction would be to force businesses to stay open, to force people to create and to enforce the ideas of a right to work, a right to a car, and so many other rights that are not really rights. If Obama is elected, we may see Atlas shrug before our eyes, and this may be what we need to end the utopian experiment of Ayers and Obama.

Arthur Brooks, economist and Univ of Syracuse Prof, studied charity/donations and discovered that … conservative-headed households donate several times more than liberal-headed households …
Mr. Brooks calls it a “bitter irony” that those favoring income redistribution are not doing much redistributing from their own bank accounts.
“In essence, for many Americans, political opinions are a substitute for personal checks,” Mr. Brooks writes.

beancounter — excellent logic — so if the Bush administration is socialist we shouldn’t complain about Obama being more socialist? You’re a moron. Of course we don’t like higher taxes and socialist government regardless of whether a republican or a democrat is imposing them.

I can’t wait till Obama gets in office and starts setting things straight. Its not fair that rich people have so much money and other people don’t have as much.
Take their money Barrack. Take their money and give it to people that need it!
Vote Obama 08! Vote for him taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor!

dianeremax: “Aengil: Please explain how you know so much about Obama’s family?”
It’s called ‘research’. I looked for interviews with George Obama, I found them, I read them.
I find that works much better than relying on what other people think about something they read about what someone thought about something they misread about Obama’s half-brother.

For all you people who say you work so hard and so many hours but can’t make ends meet, what in the world are you doing reading blogs and taking time to post replies to them? Why do you even have internet?

OBAMA IS THE SECOND BIGGEST SCAM TO BE PERPETRATED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SECOND ONLY TO MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING ALA AL GORE.

Obama sure has a lot of promises, but never actually give solutions. He keeps saying that when he is elected, he will let us know…
Obama is full of crap.

so i am selfish to want what I’ve worked so hard to earn? I am selfish because I don’t believe a 10% increase in taxes on just certain people is fair?
They already pay 30+ % why should they pay an added chunk ?
How about we fix loopholes, and keep taxes the same (or decrease them)….. BTW, both plans would net me a reduction in taxes, but Robin Hood is BS.

valtonik — bully power? You want to see bully power talk to someone from North Korea (oh wait, you can’t — they’re in political prisons) or talk to someone who grew up in Communist Russia or take your pick of socialist/communist regimes. Exactly how have you been bullied by Bush or any other Republican. Here’s a basic concept of power and bullying — someone who gives you something has the power to take it away. So when we’re all on the dole, guess what will happen if you don’t toe the line? I knew a guy who grew up in Communist Russia. If you said something against the government the joke was “Have you paid your taxes?” Meaning that the government would “find” some unpaid taxes and you would go to jail. Don’t think that can happen? Ask Joe the Plumber.

Aengil, you write that Obama’s brother said this: “I don’t want to look to him for help, I want to achieve things for myself.”
If that’s true, then Obama’s brother is very clearly a Republican, and I would vote for an Obama with those policies. You betcha!
But seriously, of course, his brother’s own policy is opposite of Barack Obama’s which is that you must look to him for help and should not be allowed to achieve them on your own.

Rick -”Interesting to see so many people vote against their own self interests.”
And yet, we are somehow selfish.

“I can’t wait till Obama gets in office and starts setting things straight. Its not fair that rich people have so much money and other people don’t have as much.
Take their money Barrack. Take their money and give it to people that need it!
Vote Obama 08! Vote for him taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor!”
Please leave our country ASAP. You don’t deserve to be here.

If this insane man is elected, I hope his “followers” have to get off their tax-free butts and go to work to pay my Social Security!

How are we selfish if we have our money taken from us & aren’t given the opportunity to give our hard earned money to whom we please or see fit. I give & will continue to give money away to the people, organizations that I see fit. And Obama’s stupid analogy (he made at a rally the other day) of sharing his PB & J sandwich is retarded & wrong, the point is he chose to give it, the government will FORCE us to give our money to someone who did not work for it!

Obama sounds like he is promising an socailistic Utopia. Hogwash. He is no savior of the world, and wanting to keep hard earned money is NOT selfish. Stealing it by using the government IS socialism/communism. Why doesn’t Obama start sharing his own dang wealth with his own family and leave everyone elses the heck alone? He is an awful man with even worse plans for our country. God help us.

We dummied our schools down to the lowest common demoninator and the result was we have the worst schools in the free world.
Now we want to dummy down the portion of the population that opens successful small business because it’s only fair that everyone share in that person’s gains.
Folks. Wake Up. The world is not fair. Work hard. Work smart. Take risks. The rewards will come your way. And we will build a much stronger society.
I am terrified of where we are going with all of this.

ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION TO HOW OBAMA’S DEFINITION OF ‘RICH’ HAS COME DOWN FROM HIS PREVIOUSLY-STATED 1 MILLION/YR TO JOE BIDEN’S $150k/YR (LAST WEEK)? WOW, WHO KNEW! My husband and I worked our BUTTS off, got educations, started a business and spent and saved wisely. Did NOT have kids until we could afford them and lived within our means. THAT is the way you achieve ‘THE AMERICAN DREAM’. Obama wants to penalize those who do what we did and restribute OUR money to those who for the most part, make STUPID DECISIONS and don’t achieve thru their own stupidity or choices. Guess what, you want to take more of MY MONEY, you will see OUR BUSINESS cut back on the goods/services/employees of those ‘MIDDLE CLASS’ he pretends to want to help. The landscapers/painters/plumbers/etc.of this country. THEY WILL SUFFER because of it. There is no ‘magic pile of money’ lying around to replace the additional taxes HE WANTS TO TAKE. The AMT already takes away ALL THOSE LOOPHOLES the class-envy sheep keep wailing about. You hit the magic number and YOUR DEDUCTIONS ARE GONE, PERIOD. SMALL BUSINESSES are the ones creating the jobs in this country, SO lets penalize them MORE and see what happens. UNLESS YOU REDUCE THE THE CORPORATE TAX RATE in the US, more corportations will move overseas. WAKE UP PEOPLE! When the ‘rich’ have been squeezed dry, the OBAMAS AND PELOSIS of this country will come down the ladder to YOU!

To Linda who said “it’s not fair that rich people have so much money…” Are you kidding me? Do you think that rich people just happened upon their money, and poor, unlucky you didn’t? You don’t think that most rich people have worked their rear ends off for what they have? I bust mine all week long and am fairly well off as a result. Guess what, the people in my firm who make more than I do also work even harder than I do. And after all my hard work and the money I earn as a result, don’t you think I should be the one who decides where that money goes and not the government (and I can assure you I give plenty to charity – both time and dollars). Quit moaning and go to work.

I will decide who I donate to and how much I donate. I do not need this silly freak to do that for me in his name or in the name of the US Government.

Republicans. Both sides need to put all of the b.s. aside and look at the fundamentals we percieve through the notion of sports. Does the team that has a bunch of “look at me” individuals prevail in any type of sport in any country? NO! Its always a collective effort from individuals who play together for the same common goal. Not, having some people say I’m right and you are wrong. Its everyone saying “let’s make the best of what we have together.” We don’t need a bunch of T.O.’s thinking you deserve more than everyone else on the team(in the country). Quit fluffing your own pillow. You’re setting yourself up for a hard fall because you only care about you! Money can buy you everything for awhile, but guess what? it’ll run out..

So let’s just vote for McCain…let the free market go..sell our corporations to China…and all start working in Chinese-owned sweatshops right here in our own country.
That is what a vote for McCain has to offer!!

First of all I want to thank brave guys like Jake Tapper (although it is too late) for going against the tide of the Gestapo (MSM and Liberal Elites) to present an objective view of Obama.
Fear not all, after 4 years of the triumvirate (Obama, Reid, Pelosi) the country will be down the toilet bowl. That will give Newt Gingrich enough time to plan a takeover in 2012.

This guy leans communist! I am dead serious and it is truly scary to think people are willingly going towards this nightmare.

Hmm. Let’s see. ‘Spread the wealth’, as opposed to ‘Virtue of Selfish.’ Now, if news reports are correct his brother lives in shanty-town and his other grandmother, named Sarah, lives in government housing. He and his wife have given us the penultimate of Ayn Rand’s virtue…He won’t even try to assist his closest living relatives so how is he going to help me? So much for compassion. So much for leading by example…oh, I almost forgot. “Sick Billy” Ayers (not to be confused with the “Slick Willie”) taught him to “not do as I do but do as I say.” Soon, we will all be doing as BO and his supporters say or we’ll be investigated by rogue government workers, put off of airplanes, shunned like reporters and television stations, and arrested by Secret Service agents. What a wonderful future BO is.
Patrick Henry once said, “I smell a rat” And walked out. Deodorant anyone?

As soon as Bushes Taxes cuts expire in 2010 and Obama’s tax increases merge …. the whole country will be hurting. I am a single mom 3 kids 1 in college helped by the prepaid college fun and florida’s Bright Futures plan. I make 32K a year and I DO NOT WANT A WELFARE CHECK! I don’t want money from those who have made it…it is not the American way. My son is studying to be an electrical engineer and he deserves to keep every dime of the money he will earn one day. There are so many opportunities for kids to go to college on scholar ships and grants. We have so much here compared to any where else in the world. Obama only inspires the idea of so many …that this country OWES THEM. I wonder what will happen when all the distribution of wealth checks are spent … hmmm I know everyone will have their hand out for more. Wake up America…from a single undermiddle class citizen who is happy to live in America and happy to have what I have because I earned it. It’s not much but Dang I am proud!! I don’t worry about “SNACKS” like the woman in Obama’s infomercial… I have taught my kids to go to college and make something better of themselves then I did…

Obama won’t pay for his half brother or aunt… he wants YOU to pay for it… watch out…lock your doors …and hide your money… cause he’s coming after all of you..
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No, the Soviet system didn’t work, so what. The concept of SHARING goes well beyond any known system.
American-lead system also didn’t work- it collapsed just as USSR did. So, Soviet-style socialism didn’t work, and American style capitalism also doesn’t work – it left tens of millions of people broke. Admit it- it doesn’t work!
Obama proposes the best of both worlds, 21st. century style- progressive and optimistic. Take it, or find yourself moving backwards.

Selfish, working, Republican and proud of it!

this will all end badly

You ALL should just be ashamed of yourselves.
Because those against McCain will be saying the same things you all have to say about Obama. It’s an endless, meaningless cycle.
Ultimately, one of these candidates will be president, fight your battles at the election polls by voting. This TUESDAY!
And may the best man win.
But commenting on this really isn’t going to do much good, except show others how immature you truly are… and quite frankly, it scares me that you all are going to impact my economic future.

“Is Obama being selfish, or something else, when he fails to extend a hand to his aunt, who has lived for years in a housing project in South Boston?”
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He’s being “something else”…a hypocrite.

How does a senator afford 7 houses and $300,000 dresses for his trophy wife?
Do Senator’s really make that much money?
McCain is a slippery and scary man…and Palin …don’t get me started!!!

All I know is that my is being offshored to either India, Brazil or Vietnam.
Looks like I wont have to worry about taxes next year as I will have no income.
I can’t wait to start receiving food stamps and welfare. Does anyone know if government cheese is like cheddar or velveta?

Does his meaning of selfishness pertain to feeding and housing his third world non citizen aunt in Boston. Selfishness is bums and welfare brood sows laying on their arse and drawing money from taxpayers.

FormerUSSR — Although I don’t agree with most of your other statements, the one about corporations leaving the US isn’t really right…..most corporations are already global so, in essence, they can “leave” the US whenever they want. Just move operations somewhere else.
One other thing, why hasn’t anyone talked aobut the education needed for some of these “new” jobs? Wonder why foregin automakers are kicking our butts? One word…..math and science training.

Description of those who can work but want others to support them via their hard work and by paying higher taxes: ‘Freeloaders, bums’

Posted by: valtonik: “Obama proposes the best of both worlds, 21st. century style- progressive and optimistic. Take it, or find yourself moving backwards.”
Don’t forget the unicorns, dear valtonik!
I love the lack of specifics in your thinking …
Pelos(ki) – Obama – Reid: The Axis of Taxes

Hey Judy Green, ur man OBAMA is the scary one, it would not suprise me if hes not the Antichrist…seriously!

Fairtax!

The tax man cometh with the “great equalizer”, the estate tax, aka the death tax!!
When infrastructure is crumbling, schools are failing, medicare and social security are bankrupt, and un-regulated wall street crooks are robbing us blind, it becomes painfully obvious that the government left too much money on the table(ie. taxed too little)!!
Time for the boomers to come clean and pay the piper. Look for big changes in the limits and rates on what they can take and what you can leave!!

Judy,
McCain doesn’t own the 7 houses. His wife does. Her family earned the money through work and sacrifice, not through government handouts.
Where did Obama get his money?

We would all feel a lot better if we had any faith at all in the gang of spendthrifts in Washington dolling it out willy nilly. God help us! They must be licking their chops!

My husband and I started a small business 2 years ago. He works at least 70 hours a week and I work part-time (somebody has to raise the kids). If Obama becomes President, we have decided to close the business. Earning an extra 10 to 20 K after taxes is not worth it to us. Unfortunately, 4 men making between $12 to $20 an hour will lose their jobs. Welcome to Obama Nation!

To: Not like most of these republicans
You get it all wrong, we republicans want to pay low tax so we have more to donate to charities of our choice. We don’t need Obama to spend our money on useless causes and to people who are lazy. Hard work should be rewarded not punished. Obama should look at himself before he accuses others of being selfish; he should help his bro and aunt first.

Linda: I can’t wait till Obama gets in office and starts setting things straight. Its not fair that rich people have so much money and other people don’t have as much.
Take their money Barrack. Take their money and give it to people that need it!
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First his name is Barack…you’re voting for someone you don’t even know how to spell their name.
Second, you need to go live in Russia or Cuba or Venezuela where dictators rule. See how socialism really works then come back to America and still advocate what you said above.
There are no middle class in these countries, the government owns everything…and low and behold there is still the very rich and the very poor! In fact the poor in America are rich in comparison.
We have a Russian working at my company on a work visa…His mother works in Russia and makes $100 a month. He sends here a portion of his check to help her. So Socialism does not work you duffus…and Obama will not give you his money, nor the government’s money…he will just take away what everyone owns so it will be government controlled.
In a socialist society the very rich will remain and the very poor, but the middle class will vanish!

As far as I’m concerned, Obama has ingested way too much cocain and other drugs during his lifetime, that it has clouded his judgement and his ability to reason and to get real! Sorry, Mr. O, but the United States is a CAPITALIST country, and NOT SOCIALIST! I don’t want your American dream, I want the real American dream! You want to destroy the American economy, while McCain wants to build it! Bye-bye Obama!

“Globalisation, free and unfettered markets,…” Obama? What are you smoking? Obama has ALWAYS opposed these things! And his base does too! Anyone can lie to get elected!

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.
The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.
Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.
CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN , and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast.
How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so ?
Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when they sing, ‘It’s Not Easy Being Green.’
Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ants’ house where on the scene reporters film the group singing, ‘We shall overcome.’ Jesse then has the group kneel down to pray for the grasshopper’s sake.
Ted Kennedy and Barack Obama claim in an interview with Larry King that ants have gotten rich off the backs of the grasshoppers, and both call for an immediate tax hike on all ants to make them pay their fair share.
Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer.
The ant is now fined for having failed to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.
Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges that Bill Clinton appointed from a list of
single-parent welfare recipients.
The ant loses the case.
The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant’s food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be the ant’s former home, crumbles around
him because he doesn’t maintain it.
The ant has disappeared in the snow.
The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once peaceful neighborhood.
MORAL OF THE STO RY: Be careful how you vote in 2008

Almost wish this race could drag out a few weeks longer. I’m actually enjoying seeing the man who has been chosen to represent the Party of the People (isn’t that what the Democrats claim they are?) continue to presonally attack those people(Joe the Plumber, Residence of Pennsylvania, small businessmen, taxpayers)on a daily basis.
Keep it up Obama, don’t think you’ve insulted everyone just quite yet…a couple of more speeches! Gotta love Elitists! Brilliant, aren’t they?
Almost as brilliant as the people who who are mesmerized by their ‘magical’ words.

He is so willing to take OUR money and GIVE it to someone else.
Yet his own track record of being CHARITABLE with his own money is DISGRACEFUL!!!

Selfishness as a virtue? Whatever you want to call it, I don’t have a problem with it.
I work hard for MY money. I have never requested government handouts or assistance. And even though I am paying into Social Security, there probably won’t be any left by the time I am eligible to start claiming it back.
It’s not the government’s job to decide how and when my hard-earned money will be turned over to the less fortunate. I didn’t tell these people to drop out of school. I didn’t tell these people to be lazy and just sit home all day instead of working. I didn’t tell these people to get knocked up at 15 and 16, and miss out on getting a proper education. Therefore, don’t tell me I’ll have to pay more taxes to make up for their deficiencies.
Obama’s plan to spread the wealth is just the start of a slippery slope into a socialist state. The fact that he’s blacklisting media outlets that question his policies (instead of doing “fluffball” interviews) is another very bad sign that our freedoms will be taken away if he gets into the White House.
Yet, all the brainwashed liberals fail to realize what a mess they’re trying to get us into. Wake up, smell the coffee, and get back to reality!

Ok, we’ve been “demonized” again! First we’re the “bad guys” if you make over XXX dollars, and now we’re SELFISH! Let me tell you, between my husband and I, we’re on the boards of 6 non profits. 2 of them are backed by larger companies, the other 4 are backed basically by small companies, and individuals. (And I’m not talking about super wealthy individuals, mostly people who are comfortable and are willing to share what they don’t use.) We are already in a WORLD OF HURT!! The cutbacks by smaller companies and individuals has started and isn’t going to end anytime soon. Unless Obama intends to dramatically increase taxes, he will NEVER bridge the gap that these non profits do. We furnish families with food, shelter, education, the basic things the government hasn’t been able to do adequately. And now, to label the group in America that DONATES THE MOST, selfish, is truly insulting. In about 6 months, some of these shelters, etc., will be out of money, the economy won’t be recovered by then, and I don’t know how he’s going to pull this off, unless he bankrupts the selfish, and I have a feeling he wouldn’t mind seeing that happen!

So not sharing the wealth is selfish now according to Obama… way to go! That’s really gonna push you thru Nov 4th!
On his infomercial he spoke about sharing toys, sharing pb&j….that was nice…CUS U WANTED TO DO IT! It would be different if your teacher was FORCING you to do it! That’s socialism and that’s what you want…. Come clean about your associations, guess you forgot HONESTY is a VIRTUE
GO McCain Palin 08!!!! from Miami, Florida!

Google “The Bolshevek Revolution”. It sounds like histiry is repeating itself. Hopefully.. without the bloodshed.

From 2000 to 2004 Obama gave less than 1% of his income in charitable gifts. During that time he and his wife earned approximately $240,000 per year. Now that he is running for President and his income is closer to $1,000,000 per year he gave around 5% in charitable gifts for 2005 and 2006. I know families earning $60,000 a year who give 15% to charity and families who earn $400,000 a year that give 35% to charity. Seems to me he’s not willing to open his own wallet for a charity that he believes in, but he’s perfectly willing to take it from your wallet and then decide who should receive your money regardless of what you think. His finances prove that he is the one that is selfish.

“His point is that the republicans are deriding policies that help the middle class”
No, they do not.
That’s the point. The new deal failed. Just like it obviously will again.
If his policies would work, we would not need them today, because they have been tried on a grand scale already.
Don’t confuse killing the goose that laid the golden egg so the poor and middle class can get some gold eggs as helping them.

Barack Hussein Obama – NOBAMA – KEEP THE CHANGE!!!

HEY WOW….THAT WAS GOOD

My husband is a lawyer. I’m a stay at home mom. I stay at home to make sure our kids have a great care taker; me. They are now very smart, happy, healthy kids. My husband makes $195,000. Some of the democrats are at this moment hating me because we make “so much money”, right? But guess what! We are still paying for student loans. We have loans for both of our cars. We have a mortgage just like some of you. We have credit card debt for the braces, the car repairs, the medical bills, the new front door we had to put in. We have very little in the way of savings. We don’t have much put away for our kids for college. We are NOT rich. I’m sorry if you make less, and you feel your life is not good because you didn’t go to college and get a great job. I’m sorry if you can’t have a parent stay home with your kids. We paid thousands of dollars in taxes last year! Should we really have to give up more money so Obama can give it to YOU? Obama never says that he will take into consideration how much debt anyone has before he takes more of our money. Oh, and by the way, my husband works hard. He goes to work at 7 and comes home at 7 and has to work some weekends. How long do you work? Do you even have a job? And don’t tell me there are none out there. Why should we pay for you and then have to lose our home in the process?

I am by no means an Obama fan, but with respect to “Bored on the Right”‘s comments about taxation, you are grossly off. You would pay 35% of the difference between the 250k bracket and the next bracket down, plus 25% of the max of the next bracket down minus the next bracket, and so on. Let’s say the next bracket is 150k.
If your tax burden at 150k is roughly $31,500 by the graduated system, then at 249k you’d be paying an additional $24,750 or a total burden of $56,250.
By earning 250k, you’ve hit a new bracket in which that extra 1k is taxed at 35%, making your tax burden $25,100.
If the bracket was 25%, that person’s burden would be $25,000 – a difference of $100.
Where it hurts is as you begin climbing up and beyond $250k. 10% is a lot for every additional 100k earned.
But please, don’t spout nonsense about how you’re better off making less…that doesn’t fly with people who’ve actually done their own taxes.

Share the wealth should be a personal choice. Give to a charity or an individual of your choosing. I see so many RICH preachers and poor sitting in the pews. Obama will do for America as he has done for Chicago…go check out Chicago and all Obama’s pals and their mansions…and look how many are poor…if Obama was the man who could change the world or even America…then Chicago should have no poor!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am by no means an Obama fan, but with respect to “Bored on the Right”‘s comments about taxation, you are grossly off. You would pay 35% of the difference between the 250k bracket and the next bracket down, plus 25% of the max of the next bracket down minus the next bracket, and so on. Let’s say the next bracket is 150k.
If your tax burden at 150k is roughly $31,500 by the graduated system, then at 249k you’d be paying an additional $24,750 or a total burden of $56,250.
By earning 250k, you’ve hit a new bracket in which that extra 1k is taxed at 35%, making your tax burden $25,100 (additional) or $81,350.
If the bracket was 25%, that person’s burden would be $25,000 (additional) or $81,250 – a difference of $100.
Where it hurts is as you begin climbing up and beyond $250k. 10% is a lot for every additional 100k earned.
But please, don’t spout nonsense about how you’re better off making less…that doesn’t fly with people who’ve actually done their own taxes.

There sure are alot of greedy, heartless, and paranoid racists in this country.
Obama is NOT a communist…or a socialist. …and he is not raising taxes (for%95 of us)!
Go out…get rich…create jobs! …and if you are really successful you will pay more taxes…and have more money.
You really think any president is going to eliminate taxes?
Wake up!

Biden gave under $1,000. to charity in 2007.
Say what you like, he’s either a cheapskate, a flaming statist, or in military parlance an “alpha-henry”… or some combination of the above.
Parenthetically may I add Biden right now probably resembles Hannibal Lechter-Bound and gagged- to prevent him from committing the “mother of all gaffes”.

USA troubles aboard, economic troubles at home, just the right time for a Demagogue to emerge, and just the right time for you to fall for him. Beware

To poor college student,
And what are you doing here?!? I’m scared that you’re the the future of our country!
And oh, I hope the one who wins, wins it clean not by fraud votes.

i volunteer a fair amount of my time. this is my choice. i do it, in part, because i do not believe that government is the key to anything. individuals and their efforts, are.
i can afford to do this because we have worked hard and made some money. go on and take it, obama. if you think your government can do a better job, go for it. i’ll find another way to spend my time and money….and i still won’t be poor….but why should i give, when you are going to take?

Responsibility
I long to accomplish a great and noble tasks, but it is my chief duty to accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble. The world is moved along, not only by the mighty shoves of its heroes, but also by the aggregate of the tiny pushes of each honest worker.
– Helen Keller
I want to live in a country where work, initiative, innovation, creativity and determination are rewarded, where the able and willing can earn what they can, and keep what they earn. No government should ever reward those unwilling to carry their own weight. And those who take money by fraud should be held accountable for their actions. Taking more (higher taxation percentage rate) from the “rich”, those who know how to produce, to give to the “poor”, and those who can only consume, is not freedom or liberty. JFK once said, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” He almost had it right. What should be said is, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do to take responsibility for your own welfare.” Only this can be the foundation for a truly free society. In the United States, anyone who wants more money is perfectly free to go out and earn it, to the extent of their talent and perseverance.
I want to live in a society that doesn’t expect the government to take care of all its problems. I want to live in a society where people freely help those in need. But voluntarily, not as government mandate. I believe that if we were not taxed so heavily, if we could keep more of what we earned, then people would want to be more helpful, and would be able to be more helpful, and we would then more freely give to charities and churches, so our neighbors in need, whether next door or across the country, can get help that is actually helpful. This can only be done with a smaller, less intrusive, government. It can not be accomplished with a socialist welfare system that helps perpetuate the problems of vast numbers of the needy, and brings the overall standard of living down to the lowest common denominator.
Good parents teach their children how to provide for themselves and to spend no more than they have. The Liberal Left policies of Obama would be like bad parenting, in essence telling society they don’t have to provide for themselves, they can just get what they need from those who do. In no way could this possibly be construed as true freedom or liberty. While the Liberal Left’s policies sometimes sound good on the surface, deeper scrutiny shows they cannot possibly work in the long run (over-taxing those who produce jobs can only lead to fewer jobs; over-taxing everyone can only lead to economic stagnation). Senator McCain wants to lower both taxes and spending. This is the only way America can keep its place in the world as the economic leader.
Let’s get America back to basics: where each citizen carries his or her own weight and does not expect their neighbors to do for them what they should do for themselves. Let us not be a burden to each other any more. Let us not allow socialism any more into the fabric of our society.

Kawasaki Kid – And if BO did give more to charity, it would be to a leftist group like ACORN and not an actual charity that helps people get back on their feet or that teaches them a skill.

Looks like it is Obama’s government that would be the selfish one.
When did the US become the nation that young acheivors and entrepreneurs are doomed to the poor house??? Obama is fabricating a fantasyland of gloom and doom and crisis that does not exist, and the voters are apparently buying his snake oil. This nation IS and has been a model of opportunity for those that are willing to take risks and work hard at prospering in the business world… Obama is simply inventing and selling a fictitious US where there is no hope for young workers and entrepreneurs in order to serve his true desire to establish a socialistic society. If he succeeds, we can all truly kiss any chance of acheiving individual prosperity good-bye unless we choose to become corrupt or choose to become an elected official.
Historically, US citizens have been very philanthropic with their wealth, exercising a freedom to financially support institutions as wide and varied as their neighborhood church, or scout troop all the up to larger organizations such as the United Way, or their favorite college or university. Our economy will not remain vibrant if government takes on the role of wealth redistributor. Philanthropy that would otherwise occur will be squelched as government mandates redistribution, leaving less and less discretionary philanthropy available to citizens. Incentives to innovate and take risks will evaporate as the prospect of reaping profits from such endeavors becomes suffocated by a ravenous and burdensome tax burden.
Make no mistake, Obama’s philosophy, if it becomes our government’s philosophy and the philosophy of most Americans will be the first step toward exterminating the vitality of US commerce and the vitality of the US economy. We will become a welfare nation sickened by a chronic malaise of economic mediocrity.
Wealth is created only by the labors of people. So, when government decides to require YOU to give some of what YOU earned to someone else who didn’t earn what they will receive from YOU, government, in effect is saying that government OWNS YOU and your work to the extent that government can make you work for someone else. Historically you have the opportunity to do this on your own whenever you want to…when the offering plate is passed, when the Salvation Army rings a bell, when you pass a beggar, when you donate to whatever cause you want to donate to. Historically, YOU have had FREE WILL to do this or not to do this. OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THIS FREEDOM and make you a servant of the state, with effectively no individual rights whatsoever…think about it… if this is what government becomes, your rights are gone… you are at the beck and call of your government… and make no mistake, government’s standard operating procedure is to continue to grow and continue to control YOU more and more.
When government overly burdens those that actually produce the wealth that pays for everything, the incentive to produce wealth evaporates and the economy weakens and the country becomes economically weak.

As a devout atheist, Ayn Rand greatly mistrusted religious institutions in the same way she mistrusted government. So, she would be appalled by the grip the “religious right” have on the Republican party. But, let us not lose touch of her lessons and philosophy. Obama is clearly exactly the type of character she feared most of all.
Here are a few good quotes from her:
“Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper’s bell of an approaching looter.”
“There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil.”
Please don’t dismiss her philosophy as anything but devoutly anti-socialism simply because she urged people not to vote for Reagan. Who do you think she actually wanted people to support? Carter? Mondale? Come on, people.

It’s hard for me to recall a more selfish politician than Obama, who WILL raise taxes so that HE and HIS CROONIES can decide WHAT to do with that money. That the American people should want to decide what to do with their hard earned money and where to give to charity, now that’s just not exceptable to Obama.
He must be the one to decide. He IS a socialist.
Now, that’s selfish!

Judy Green,
REMEMBER IN 2011, THE BUSH TAX CUTS WILL EXPIRE AND CONGRESS AND bo WILL NOT MAKE THEM PERMANENT. SO REMEMBER EVERYBODY’S TAXES WILL GO UP EVEN THE ONES MAKING $50,000!!!

to NEIL PARROT:
Brilliant!!
it’s a great song.

I wasn’t happy when McCain won the nomination. But Obama’s made my choice an easy one.
Thanks for the help Barry. You really do care.

For the imbeciles who advocate the rich leaving the country, just what do you think the country will be when all the citizens are poor? Ifor one am considering emigrating for a few years until this country regains its sanity. I can go and pull $2 million out of the US ecomony and take it anywhere I want. That’s 20-30 well paying jobs offshore. Enjoy your government mandated poverty.
The democratic party is now the party of the lazy. They have become socialist thugs who are now trying to justify their policies on the basis that those who oppose are selfish. I think it is more selfish to sit on your ass and do nothing.

Money made by the rich is not “hard earned.” In terms of the level of effort, poor people work far harder and more often often have to earn their living in more complex and stressful ways than the rich. Dollar for dollar, the more that people are rich the more that they are recieving a reward because of their opportunities for ownership of property and investments that are unavailable to the poor. The problem with our economy is that the value system for individual contributions to our society has become invalid. Experience, education and effort are no longer a significant part of the formula for success within business. The primary job of the wealthy has become that of remaining in political and economic control. This is what is so self defeating for everyone. Unless true progress is made to adjust our fundamental value system of opportunities not only will the economics of our system continue to fail society, humanity will not be able to take on and solve the looming problems of our environment, energy, overpopulation, shortages of food, disease and military conflicts that are about to overtake us. The conservative objective of our society is to moblize ourselves and unite our nation to solve the failures of a false value system that has placed absolute notions of property ownership over the greater national security concerns of progress and survival.
It is a fundamental mistake of conservatives to make the arguement that fairness of human opportunity is socialism because it is the basis upon which their econsomic wealth must be based.

Well I just would LOVE for all those class-envying OBAMA SUPPORTERS to take a quick trip to the outskirts of Moscow and St. Petersburg and get a view of what HOUSING UNDER THE SOCIALIST OBAMA REGIME WILL BE LIKE IN THE FUTURE. Enormous dingy gray concrete block ‘apartment complexes’ housing 5000 plus people. A lovely 300 sf cube for an ‘extended’ family of grandparents/parents and kids. No grass,landscaping, playgrounds, pool, etc. Makes Cabrini-Green look like a Four Seasons. WOO-HOO! YES ya’ll need to really get a look at what LIFE UNDER SOCIALISM IS LIKE, because I HAVE BEEN THERE, and you people JUST HAVE NO CLUE. Look at where Obama’s own FAMILY MEMBERS LIVE! And y’all believe HE CARES ABOUT YOU? Oh my goodness, truly, like lambs to the slaughter…..

Reply to Neil Parrot, who wrote: “And the trees are all kept equal/By hatchet, axe, and saw.”
And the maples were happy until the dwarf Japanese maples formed a union …

It’s amazing that Obama keeps talking about **benevolence** – when he and Michelle have consistently donated less than 1% of their annual income to charity.

If every child get a free way through college, then who, in the next few years, is going to flip the burgers I so enjoy?

He who Works not Deserves not .
He who demands we pay him for Not Working is the a very Selfish man .
He who demands we pay those who don’t work for votes is the most selfish man on Earth .
Barack H. Obama was taught his moronic theories By Karl Marx obviously .
PS – Obama has 6 very poor Brothers and Sisters in Kenya and very poor Kenyan in Boston and a Grandmother in Hawaii .
He ”according to his FAMILY ” has never given them a penny of his Millions …. that is beyond selfish …… he is a fraud ! Do as I say ….. not as I do !

PK, speak for your own “socialistic” self!

Honestly, Tim. Is it Palin that doesn’t instill confidence or Palin seen through the media filter that doesn’t … you know where I’m headed. See my earlier email about her accomplishments while guv. I’ve stood behind a lot of candidates that the media has utterly destroyed, so I have to discount media input. I would have loved Romney, too, but it wasn’t meant to be this time around.
And … can we get back on the real issue here … Obama’s freaky tax plan?

The media has sold out the country because they are either lazy or evil. Stalin would call them “useful idiots”!
The path the Obama is heading isn’t about just taxes. This guy is a communist and it took very little research his history. Look what his cousin did in Kenya before selling them out to the Muslim’s.

I’m sick of this class warfare crap. Its politicians like Obama that really turn me off, but you bet I’ll vote for McCain this year. I don’t agree with everything he says but he seems more genuine and honest. I can’t trust Obama and am not really sure what his true plan for our country is, but so far it doesn’t look good.

MSNBC loves him and so does the NY Times. That just makes me want to vote for him – NOT! The US is so far in debt to other countries it isn’t even funny. After he TAXES us the Democrats in charge will spend the money on Their programs, not “Redistribute the Wealth” unless you count ACORN or enforcing the Fairness Doctrine.

Sorry PK, we are on the same side: Capitalism

JAY!!!!! with the NFL Example!!! Please read this!!!
I can tell you haven’t drank the whole glass of koolaid yet so there might be a chance for you…
Consider this, I can see the reasoning behind your analogy of it needing to be for the “team.” You are right. We should all be on the same team. That’s why we should all be paid the regardless of matter what race sex religion etc etc etc we are. We can all agree that that Fair. 100%
HOWEVER, you have to have a society that has “Incentive.” to better ourselves. For example, who do you think would have the better team, make bigger plays, attract better players to be on the team, get along with each other better??
Team 1: Where the best players on the team are irritated b/c they are pulling more of the weight. The medium and lower skilled players don’t try to improve b/c it won’t do them any good.
Team 2:(Like good Capitalism in the US) The players who scores and gets yards, and make tackles, and etc etc, get paid according to what they DO, not just being lucky to be on the team. The good players are constantly striving to keep what they have, the medium/lower producing players are encouraged to make improvements to get more money and recognition??
Obviously Team 2 would succeed, AND be happier overall because they WON..TOGETHER. Spreading it around doesn’t work, and never has EVER in ANYPLACE IN THE WORLD..
In the cold war the US was able to capitalize on the drive to succeed of the American people. The Soviet Union had to rely on people’s love of the Motherland, and fear of getting thrown into the Gulag to compete against the US.
The rest of the story: There is no more SOVIET UNION… IT IS DEAD!!!!! because the US won. WE BUNCH OF GREEDY SELFISH PATRIOTIC JERKS…WON!!!!!!!
You still have hope, just think it through my friend, and remember always remember this. GOVERNMENT doesn’t give anybody anything EVER. It NEVER HAS. It appeases people and spills crumbs from it’s table of power, so you don’t pay attention to them laughing at you, because they are programming you to depend on it.
Sucks but that is the way it is.

Begging Hands and Bleeding Hearts will only cry out for more…
Know your place in life is where you want to be
Dont let them tell you that you owe it all to me
Keep on looking forward, no use in looking round
Hold your head above the ground and they wont bring you
Down
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind
A funeral dirge for eyes gone blind
We marvel after those who sought
New wonders in the world, wonders in the world,
Wonders in the world they wrought
Live for yourself — theres no one else
More worth living for
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will
Only cry out for more
Well, I know theyve always told you
Selfishness was wrong
Yet it was for me, not you, i
Came to write this song

I remember all of the paranoid socialist talk in 1992 when the last Dem took office. Yeah the 90′s were a real nightmare for capitalism. NEWSFLASH! The US of A has had a graduated tax system for about 100 years. You folks are freaking out about a 3% shift in the upper bracket. Spend half of that energy addressing how the money is SPENT – like farm subsidies, wars, or tax rebates for buying a Chevy Suburban, or the whole department of education. That is where the screw job is and will continue to be. Be a good lemming and BASH the other side. Just don’t look and see that BOTH sided are spending like drunk sailors. As for you Repubs – face it, the last eight years have seen your party crap all over any semblance of true conservative governance. That is why you are losing. Relearn what you forgot and come back in two years.

If Barry is so compassionate for the poor, why has he not taken care of his own family that live in poverty while he lives a life of luxury. Give your money to them, not mine.

Kudos to Obama’s highmindedness, but seriously, are we going to elect this fiscal infant?
Soaking small businesses, corporations and the upper class to help the middle class hurts the middle class.
1) It destroys economic incentive to create wealth.
2) It encourage complacency by making the bottom a comfortable place for under achievers.
3) It takes money away from from those who hire employees, and invest in companies that would hire employees. This reduces EMPLOYMENT, which means the middle class has less total economic output.
As someone in Obama’s middle class, I expect to have less discretionary money, fewer job opportunities, fewer retirement options, and a less secure future for my children. The future looks bleak. 30% unemployment seems just around the corner.

Here is what I don’t understand. What type of tax break do you get for being “rich”? I have checked my IRS forms and do not see any “Rich Person” deductions. They appear to be the same for everyone, house, business expenses, charitable giving (Barry and Joe might have done better here) health care, child credits, education expenses.
But NO WHERE is there any “break” for being “rich”. Would someone explain?

“Choice for choice” sake is a sophistry and a lie
For by “choice” thousands die
How can God excuse a nation,
That murders its own creation?
Demons had their choice and fell
Now they are forever tortured in hell
And how can the indignant unrepentant
At Judgment say “I know my rights”
When they demanded lives of the innocent?

geevill,
yes, your country does all these things, but with all due respect, the comparison is not valid.
you have a population of 7 1/2 million primarily of european back round. we have a population of 300+ million from everywhere.
because of the makeup and size of your society, your standard of living…is pretty standard, across your country.
a better comparison would be england and the US. they have a very mixed population of about 63 million, and are finding it quite hard to deal with the fact that about 50% of their folks are now dependent on the government for all or most of their livelihood. it is not a supportable situation. the more the government takes care of people, the fewer people there are to pay the taxes and support those on the government payroll.
this is what we face in this country. we have the potential for a diminishing tax base (aging wealthy, poor immigrants, and generational welfare recipients) paying ever higher taxes to support those who want to have everything given to them.
the higher the taxes, the less accumulation of wealth, and in the end, the fewer taxes collected.

Let’s see if I understand socialism …police, fire, libraries, public schools, public hospitals, medicare, highways, bridges, oh yeah and war. But hey if you all want to see all that disappear then stop paying your taxes or better yet figure out a way to lower them with write-offs and non-reporting of income and the next time you hit a pot-hole that blows out your shocks don’t get angry just buy a bigger truck.

Sen. Obama can glibly spout family values and charitible giving all night long until you look at his personal giving.
He has blood relatives living in a slum and a half-brother living on 12 bucks a year while he lives in a mansion and jets around the U.S. campaigning for a job for which he has no qualifications or experience.

Okay, now I am a selfish person because I don’t want to be taxed more than I am now? Give me a break here. I have worked 7 days a week and have put in countless 18-20 hour days trying to get my business up and running. I have created jobs and everything we use is AMERICAN made and nothing is imported, NOTHING! This is my 5th year, the first 2 1/2 years I worked a full time job, went to school at night, served in the National Guard and worked trying to my business growing. While I won’t bring home over $250k this year next year I should be well over that if our projections are correct. So after all this hard work to get to where I am I am supposed to roll over and say “here ya go, give this to someone who hasn’t invested a dime or any time into my hard labor? I think not and that isn’t being selfish. I give to charities and the past two years these donations have grown from $25-50 to a couple different ones to $1000 plus to the same ones and have starting giving some to other charities also. So I am spreading the wealth and I never ask for anything in return, not even advertising for my business, that is not what giving and caring is about. So if Odumba thinks I am selfish he needs to take his head out of his ass when Joe Biden only gave $2300 to charities last year and he makes a hell of a lot more than I do. McCain/Palin has my vote for 08!!!

Doesn’t anyone remember 2 years ago when everyone freaked and ousted the Republicans? Replaced them with Dems? Why are you all still trying to blame the Republicans? Democrats suck. Pretty much.

rick,
your math, as is the case with many misinformed liberals, is a bit missplaced regarding your “Dow down 6500 points”, under Bush.
Bush entered the white house in 2001 with a Dow at 10,000. The Dow went up to 14,000 by 10/31/07.
Currently, it is at 9,325.
So, while the man in the Oval office has NOTHING to do with the stock market, at least you can admit that your math is way off.

Typical Marxist. This Obama is a scary creep, and if he is lucky enough to get elected, you’d better grab your bonnet, because it will be one heck of a ride. Not a good one!!!

I’m selfish, greedy, ungrateful, miserly, and misanthropic. What this socialist doesn’t understand is that taking more of my income will only make me want to squeeze more out of the government in return — because I own more of it than I did before the tax increase.
Perhaps this would be the best approach for the heavily taxed — go about interacting with the government as if you owned it. (Suprise! We do!) Those who don’t like it can get to the back of the line.

“Let’s see if I understand socialism …police, fire, libraries, public schools, public hospitals, medicare, highways, bridges, ”
Geez take a trip to Cuba and check on the state of any of those. You might be one dumbest human beings on earth.

What is very interesting here on the ABC news website is that 99.99% of these comments are against Obama. So where does Pelosi get the idea that he’s supposed to win by Landslide? From the Pols? Ok, well… this looks like a reasonably informal pol to me… and it looks like Obama gets squashed flat in the election. So I don’t get it. How did he win again?

All of you Republicans that are voting for McCAIN (AT LEAST SUPPOSEDLY) Im sure 99% of you are not republicans, but for that 1%
I Say to you…
I am the greatest leader ever. I stand for hope. I will bring this country to greatness. I will make us the greatest in the world. Let’s stand together. Let’s Change Washington. Yes We Can!!! Don’t be selfish. I’m gonna solve everyones problems. Don’t be racist and not vote for me. etc………………
Let me know when you have decided to vote for me so I can stop saying things, and by the way let me know what I should tell you, and I’ll say it.
By the way I have a glass of koolaid for you. TO HECK WITH MCCAIN OBAMA and all of em…VOTE FOR ME. I SAY GOOD THINGS…
WHAT? You don’t know who I am and wonder would like to know more????…
Come on now people, lets not be bigots now. JUST PULL THE LEVER FOR ME!!!!!

We’re gonna have to settle this the way Erica Jong predicts….with a 2nd Civil War. 100 million heavily-armed red state Americans VS sissy urban liberals and illiterate welfare scum.
Guess who wins?

cavtrooper, I like your post

if you want to reduce government spending and see US productivity really take off, don’t let congress sit in washington all year long spending our money.
go back to the old days. give them a time limit of 3 months to take care of the real business of the country, then send them home.
they won’t have time to have hearings into baseball steroids, etc.
if they are home with the people they are supposed to represent, instead of sitting in washinton making stupid laws and spending our money, we’ll all be better off!

Wow this is reporting. Oh wait no it is your opinion. I bet you are going to call this the race card.
Man you are a jerk. Sorry excuse for a “reporter”

I am struck by Obama’s rhetoric, wherein he states he doesn’t know “when they made a virtue out of selfishness”. How timely, that he would speak to selfishness, when we recently learned that his aunt lives in squalor in Boston. If he is so well-intentioned why hasn’t “he” seen fit to offer assistance to her given the millions he’s made writing his memoir, rather than accepting money from her – money she apparently does not have. Not only is he selfish in his “giving”; but of his time. His costly trip to Hawaii to visit his ailing grandmother was a media event. Imagine “giving” only 70 minutes (by newspaper reports) of your time to a woman who helped raise you? What a role model! Maybe that’s indicative of the “drive by love and caring” we can expect from this man who wants to be President. A man who by his example, says “do as I say, not as I do”. Practice what you preach Mr. Obama – you have much to learn. Your words are empty and meaningless and speak only to your lofty agenda.

@Voter2Be
“Obama will use the Government to correct the immoral selfishness and make us virtuous, righteous and generous.”
And yet the man only shows about 1% of income for donations to charity on his tax forms. He is the immoral selfish one who would rather give OTHER peoples money rather than his won. Many words, no substance.

I think we should do an Obama halloween. You’re the Obama government, so when the kids come up to your house, weigh their candy bags and “redistribute” the candy so all kids have an even amount. Then, take some of the candy out of each bag for yourselves and take some more candy for those who didn’t trick or treat that night. That’s o.k. they didn’t put on a costume and walk, they deserve it anyway just because it is “fair”. This will work until everybody sees those who work for the candy are no better off than those who sit and wait for the government to give them candy because it is “fair”. That’s an Obama halloween waiting for America!!!!

“the Great Depression was causes by Republican Majorities in the 1920s that lead up to the 1929 Stock Market crash! The 1930s were the years of the Great Depression and it took a Socialist, FDR to get America back on track. It took him almost 10 years to do it”
~~~~~~~~ (too many of these “~” is really annoying)
Many econmists argue that FDR’s New Deal programs actually turned what would have been a resession into the Great Depression.

I am SELFISH!! NOT RICH!!
But we have worked our butts off to make sure our kids were educated at our expense. I am still working at 68 to help them and am appalled to see my latest tax bill showing 48% of the bill going to Social Service programs that I have never taken a dime from.
READ MY LIPS!!! NOONE WILL REDISTRIBUTE ANY OF MY SO-CALLED WEALTH!!!!
For all of those that are drinking the OBAMA KOOL-AID, you will deserve all of the empty promises he has made to you.
Remember when Billy was going to give you Health Care???? Dream on folks.

Wow. I think Obama just sealed the deal by sticking his foot in his mouth. Nothing like confirming he wants to “spread the wealth”. Congrats to McCain.

Can anybody name one socialistic or communistic country that is thriving in economic prosperity??? …and this is the direction Barry wants to take our country into????

Why doesnt BO take care of his own family first with his own millions?
His own Aunt lives in a Boston slum and his half brother lives in a shack in Africa on $12.00 per year.
Maybe he’s waiting for the white middle class and white rich to pay raise his own family from the bottom up?Why
wont he use his own money? What a Hypocrite!
Nice racist church you go to BO!!!

I am growing tired of Senator Obama calling me a racist, clinging to my guns and religion, and now selfish.
Well, senator, I make tens of thousands of dollars less than you and I donated to charity more than you, that is until you decided to run for president.
What happened to his bring people together? It sure does not seem that the senator wants anyone with differing opinions around him. Someone needs to remind the senator he works for “We The People.”

obama:
I will share my Social Security check with you IF YOU SHOW ME YOUR TRUE BIRTH CERTIFICATE To all others every one who didnt suffer the Great Depression needs to..Then tell me your values…..

Ya I heard that about Obama’s aunt too.. on Rush Limbaugh yesterday.
What the hell is wrong with you people don’t you get any news from reliable sources? Or has Rush scared you away with all that “Drive by media” talk?

I can’t wait for Obama to become the president. I won’t have to work, I’ll get a free house, and I’ll get free health care!

Why does it take the British press to track down the Obama family tree? Are there any working press left in America?

YOU KNOW HUSSEIN OBAMA HAS CALLED US JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING NOW SELFICH….AND HE WANTS TO BECOME PRESIDENT… THINK AGAIN HUSSEIN O.. YOU WILL LOSE….TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN FAMILY FIRST… YOU MENTAL MIDGET

February 1, 2011 Washington DC: In the name of Freedom, Congress passes a new law making Selfishness a Federal Offense. All Capitalists will be thrown in prison while the rest of America waits in soup lines, to praise the equality we have achieved. Read Ayn Rand, she warned us!

It’s weird, because the part where Obama says that if people have more money they’ll do more good with it and it’ll help everyone, that sounds exactly like what Republicans used to say about tax cuts for the rich.

I’m rich. If you tax me higher, I’ll just leave America and go to a country where I can invest, start businesses, and employ people without getting raped by the government.
Why should I take risk in a country where all the rewards are taken from me?

Apparently Obama doesn’t realize that EVERY American has the same opportunity to achieve the American dream. I’ve got a novel idea for you Hussain – HANDOUTS DO NOT HELP US ACCOMPLISH THE AMERICAN DREAM. Government getting their nose out of our business and being frugal with our money rather than increasing taxes does allow us to work towards becoming what we want to become not what you think we should become. We live in America not some 3rd world socialist country so that WE not YOU can determine out destiny.
SELFISHNESS IS YOU TAKING EVEN MORE OF OUR MONEY AND BLOWING IT ON GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS THAT TANK OUR ECONOMY.

Let me get this straight. I have to bust my rear so my family will have a good life and future, and adopt another family to help them make it to? You are right, this isn’t socialism. It’s stupidity.

anybody here supporting any relatives living overseas or in another state? maybe a few people (well guys mostly) supporting an ex.
really, who here here is sending a check to an out-of-state relative, or any relative for that matter?
no one here is for socialism right?

@jozsef
“A lot of rich people would leave me struggling to deem their dollars “hard earned”
Perhaps you don’t know too many “rich” people. The ones I know were all classic type”A” workaholics who routinely had to mortgage their houses to the hilt and borrow against their IRAs on more than one occasion to keep their business afloat during their startup phase.

Taxes go up so there is less to spend. Then, prices go up because business still needs to make its profit after paying the fairness Obamatax. Then the stolen money from the high taxes isn’t enough and people don’t buy things, and businesses close and no more jobs and more welfare needed so the rich stay rich and the middle class goes into poverty. That is what this is really about – the elite class taking control. Obama made $ million last year and he will not even give a dime to his destitute aunt and brother. Now, that is really selfish – isn’t it. How can Obama even sleep at night when he accuses other of being selfish? HMMMMMM?
Look at what happened after the high taxes and welfare of the 90s and the destruction of our military and intelligence services – we got 9-11 – that was change for sure when we were attacked on our own soil for the first time. I may be so bold as to suggest that not all chagne is good. Taxes lowered after that tragedy and the economy recovered – until the democrat controlled motgage mess whacked the economy. Check out who go tht most contribution money from Freddie and Fanny – Dodd, Obama, etc.
Look at the welfare of the Carter years – took him four years and we had 20% mortgages and huge taxes and descent into recession looming. Regan lowered taxes and the economy recovered. The Obama plan is the same stupid anti-business plan that has failed time after time after time.
Go ahead, go stupid and vote for Obamachange if you dislike your friends and country, put Carter 44 in office and watch your future crumble before your eyes. Then in two years remember what you did and come back and clean out the congress to try to recover the country. Or, avoid the risk and vote Republican now and in the future.

I work for a payroll company and Obama’s website is not being accurate regarding taxes over $250,000. If you are self employed and you and your spouse earn $250,000, you will pay and additional 12.4% Social security tax 6.2% for employee + 6.2% for employer plus 39% for your tax bracket + state income tax depending where you live. That’s at least 51 cents for every dollar – that’s nuts! It’s working overtime for half pay or worse. If you have a state income tax you may only take home .30 per dollar!!!

There goes Obamaclaus again!! Giving away what doesn’t belong to him.
How generous the Democrats are with other people’s money, except theirs.

Matt — the Obama Halloween plan is a scream! I’m forwarding that to all my friends — and crediting it to you “Matt, Political Punch.” Brilliant!

Jose, the story on BO’s Aunt was written by the UK Times????
You didn’t expect an American paper to cover this story did you? Why doesnt Keith Obermann start his show tonight with
“BO Selfishness” WONT TAKE CARE OF HIS OWN FAMILY BUT IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF AMERICA WHEN HE’S ELECTED..
What a joke

Talk about selfish! This guy’s half-brother in Kenya lives in squallor on $1 a month. His aunt lives in a slum in Boston. Do you moron really think he’ll help YOU when he won’t even help his family? This guy is a liar. He is a hateful man, and hopefully you won’t make the mistake of voting for him and finding out the truth about him later.

I really don’t understand the outrage. Most of the people, probably 95% of you who have posted, will do far better under an Obama administration than you would under McCain.
Do you not understand that over the past 8 years, wealth has been “redistributed” to the very top so that the top 1% now make 21% of income. Income redistribution is not a new concept. The problem, for those of us who see it as a problem, is that the Bush tax cuts have done more to give more to the people at the top than to middle class Americans.
If you think that’s fine, then you should vote to continue these same failed policies. But if you’re not in the top 1% of wage-earners (which is about $1.5 million/year), then you should take a look at Obama. But stop calling it socialism, especially when you don’t even understand what it means.

Obama is in for a rude awakening if he actually tries to govern this way. Does he think “rich” people will just roll over and pay more in taxes? They won’t. They will go elsewhere with their money, or cut labor costs and raise prices to make up for punitive taxes. Creating poverty is not good economic policy. I don’t know if he is naive and really believes what he preaches or is just another fascist leftist. My guess is the latter.

Wow, selfish is a bit strong when the so called “rich” are already in a 35% tax bracket. My question is: Just how much does he want??? “Giving” over a third of your income to be spread to those who are “behind” seems pretty dog gone generous to me!?!?!?!

Zoie: “This guy’s half-brother in Kenya lives in squallor on $1 a month.”
Obama’s half-brother: “They say I live on a dollar a month, but this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win.”

I love the class warfare Obama is peddling… has everyone thinking America is only about money… and not about freedom. People like Kat who posted earlier don’t know the difference between being compelled by a government to do something and someone doing it of their own free will. A lot of people skipped class when they were being taught the role of government.

It’s pretty clear what Obama’s doing.
He can’t earn the votes, so he “buys” the votes. With YOUR money.
Lessee … welfare vote + government worker vote + ACORN votes … what will this net him? Now add in the middle income class with a promise to cut taxes … ah, that’s more like it.
Typical politician. And you supporters actually believe he will cut taxes for the middle class? Like Bill Clinton did? Hehe. Sad fools.

What Obama doesn’t tell or doesn’t get it, is that charity is giving from your own pocket to those you want to help. The government taking my money and giving it to whomever it wants, is not charity, it is welfare, i.e. socialism. This is Obama’s way of “blackmail guilt”. Don’t buy into it.

It’s all about the Ice Cream
The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching third grade. The presidential election was heating up and some of the children showed an interest. I decided we would have an election for a class president. We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote.
To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members. We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should have. We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot.
The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids. I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of parental support. I had never seen Olivia’s mother. The day arrived when they were to make their speeches Jamie went first. He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better place. He ended by promising to do his very best. Every one applauded. He sat down and Olivia came to the podium. Her speech was concise. She said, “If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream.” She sat down. The class went wild. “Yes! Yes! We want ice cream.”
She surely would say more. She did not have to. A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream? She wasn’t sure. Would her parents buy it or would the class pay for it. She didn’t know. The class really didn’t care. All they were thinking about was ice cream. Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a land slide.
Every time Barack Obama opens his mouth he offers ice cream, and fifty percent of America reacts like nine year olds. They want ice cream. The other fifty percent know they’re going to have to feed the cow.

EXPAND WELFARE ON ME. NO WAY JOSE! THE TWO O’S DON’T SEEM TO KNOW IF THE DEDUCTION START @ 250k OR 200k OR 150k BUT GOD!! FORBIDE HE ELECTED IT WILL BE @ 40K THE DAY AFTER INAUGURATION SURPRIZE PEOPLE O&0 MISCACULATED THE TAX FIGURE. SORRY BUT NOW THEY COMMAND!!! WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT’S TO LATE OR YOU WILL PAY DEARLY BY THIS SOCIALIST NOBAMA PERIOD…..

Wow! I can’t believe Obama’s about to get elected on this platform of socailism. You know, the last thing we need to do is demonize the rich. They might just take their companies, jobs, and wealth and leave our country.

Aengil:
If I was living in squalor like Obama’s half brother (I’ve seen the Vanity Fair pics of him and his shanty home) with a shot at asking for financial help from Obama, well, I’d say whatever Obama wanted me to say, too.

“People like Kat who posted earlier don’t know the difference between being compelled by a government to do something and someone doing it of their own free will.”
I don’t know the role of government? Let’s look at the basics shall we:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
It’s all in how you define welfare sir. It has nothing to do with my knowledge of a system I have spent my life around. My definition of welfare however differs from yours – and that’s fine – but do not for one moment attempt to belittle my understanding of our country.

HAlloween at the Obamas: If they run out of candy when the kids come by trick-or-treating, they take from the kids who have bagfulls, and give it to the kids who come by later so everyone gets some at their house!

“Selfishness” from the fellow who gives 1% of his income to charity. Some of us just feel we are better givers of our money than the govenrment.

YOU ARE WHO YOU ASSOCIATE WITH.
SIMPLE FACT OF LIFE.
IF A CHILD WANTS TO HANG OUT WITH THE THUGS ON PLAY GROUND, SHOULD A PARENT BE CONCERNED?
IF A CHILD WANTS TO HANG OUT WITH DRUG ADDICTS, SHOULD A PARENT BE CONCERNED?
IF A HUSBAND WANTS TO HANG OUT AT BARS, SHOULD A WIFE BE CONCERNED?
IF A WIFE WANTS TO HANG OUT AT BARS, SHOULD A HUSBAND BE CONCERNED?
IF A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WANTS TO HANG OUT WITH “FORMER TERRORISTS”
(former used loosely) SHOULD AN ELECTORATE BE CONCERNED???????????
I WOULD SAY YES TO ALL ABOVE.

it’s been fun.
“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money”
Alexis de Tocqueville
i would add also…the presidential candidates.
yes, i might do better under Obama, but i’d rather earn what i get, not have it given to me. isn’t that one of the early lessons we teach our children? the joy and the value of earning something?

Wow. I can’t believe some of you people out there. Barack Hussein Obama is a disaster waiting to happen and it is mind boggling that there are people out there foolish enough to actually vote for him. For all of you out there who believe I should be a good guy and give you my money – You have lost your minds. I owe you nothing and I will not participate in giving handouts. I give to charities, more than Barack Hussein Obama and his caring wife have given. If you want more, work harder, go back to school and get a degree so you can command a higher income but if you want a hand out from me it aint going to happen. And the lying Obama can’t make it happen. He has socialistic ideas that will never get passed, regardless of which party controls Congress.

Those who support Obama are in for a real treat! Just look at the morons in Congress did to the luxury yacht industry when the Dems in Congress said, who cares if we tax luxury yacht purchases, its just a bunch of rich white guys who will pay more in taxes. Simple, right? Wrong! Those stupid white rich guys bought their yachts overseas, and the US yacht indutry went under — and that hurt ALOT of middle class, blue collar workers who build the yachts. The rich are rich cause they are smart. If taxes get too high here, they simply move things around or take different types of pay. Tax corporations and they always — always — pass it along to the consumer, and often that hurts the middle class and poor the most. In a way, if Obama wins, it will be like Carter in 1976 — 4 years of great pain, followed by over adecade of GOP control and sanity.

Our family motto: “We will give until Hell freezes over, but we won’t be taken” We give of our time, talents and treasure to our church, our community and reputable charities. We do not support Gimmee Schemes/Scams or those who promote them. this means you, Obama!

Roy P: “TWO O’S DON’T SEEM TO KNOW IF THE DEDUCTION START @ 250k OR 200k OR 150k BUT GOD!!”
Yep, it happened again. Richardson, educating us on Obama’s plan, has now stated it is $120k that will receive a cut.
I can hear Obama now, under his breath … “Suckahs!”

Since obama is so keen on redistributing the wealth, he should have taken the money he spent on his horrid infomercial and spent it on his aunt and brother, both of whom live in slums while he has a mansion with a private beach in Hawaii

Obama is missing the point entirerly. JFK lowered taxes… federal revenue went up. Carter raised taxes… revenue went down. Reagan lowered taxes… revenue went up. Same with Bush. Even clinten knew not to raise cap gains taxes. Think of walmart. Did they grow because of high prices or low prices. Low prices of course. They understood that low prices generate spending in their stores. If thye raised taxes, less customers. Same with taxes and economic growth. Use your head Obama. It isn’t about fairness, its about economic prosperity.

See…what Barak and the rest of you Democrats apparently don’t realize is the #1 fundamental of Economics – and this is the #1 reason Barak has no clue how to fix our Economy. In fact, his statements simply prove he has no clue about Economics at all. You can only call it Obamanomics – a subject matter that isn’t taught in any educational institution in the world – because it doesn’t work.
Barak says “I want all of you to be rich” and “when everybody’s got a little more money at the end of the month…then guess what? Everybody starts spending that money…All boats rise.”
First rule of Economics…Supply and Demand. The more money everyone has to spend, the more in demand the products and services they are buying become. The more in demand these products and services become, the more they increase in cost. The end result is that the economy adjusts to everyone having more money.
What he’s not understanding is that the cost of living is the water the boat is floating on. If all boats rise, so does the cost of living. This is an Economic Law. The Law of Supply and Demand.
Obama’s idea SOUNDS good, but the bottom line is that the only result of this is that the cost of living will increase for everyone – so the poor will stay poor and the middle class will get poorer. Funny – he says he won’t raise the middle classes taxes, he’ll simply readjust the entire economy through the price increases caused directly by his “redistribution of wealth.” It will be a zero sum gain.
This is EXACTLY what caused the housing crisis. When the Clinton Administration “securitized” sub-prime mortgages with his revisions to the Community Reinvestment Act (see the Democratic “policy” theme here?), more people could buy homes – increasing the demand for housing – so the price of housing skyrocketed. When the economy ultimately adjusted, housing values crashed and millions of people couldn’t pay their mortgages and now the national average is that 1 in 7 homeowners actually owe more on their home than its worth. Oh yeah, and banks are failing and our economy collapsed because of it. This is what happens when “everyone’s boats rise.”
Economics 101. Obama doesn’t have a clue the damage he’s proposing. He didn’t learn a thing from the sub-prime housing crisis. If he’s elected and “redistributes the wealth” and “makes all ships rise,” watch what happens over the next 4-10 years, and don’t blame the Republicans for it when they are in office trying to clean up the mess it made. Blame yourself for voting for Obama.
In America – you have the opportunity to advance yourself. Everything you need is available to you, but to succeed in America, you have to work for it – you have to invest in yourself. Nothing against the poor, and I don’t have the statistics on it, but I’m willing to bet that a far higher percentage of people who live below the poverty line likely didn’t finish High School than those who did. They could have, but the CHOSE to drop out for one reason or another. They CHOSE not to get their GED. They CHOSE not to go to college – any college – community college or otherwise. I know this doesn’t fit everyone who’s poor, but like I said, I’m willing to bet that it fits the description of the majority of the poor people in America. Because they chose not to continue their educations, they aren’t qualified for the jobs that could have put them in the Middle Class. It’s sad – no doubt, but in most circumstances, they made the choices that limited their future options.
And don’t tell me that it can’t be done by the poor. It can be done – and I’m also living proof that a student can put themselves through college working 3 jobs and using financial aid. I EARNED a degree from a Big 10 University – and got a good job. Quit finding excuses as to why you can’t succeed – why you’ve been “held back.” Look in the mirror – if you want “wealth redistributed” because it will benefit YOU – get off your butt and do something to EARN it yourself instead of taking a handout from the Government – courtesy of those who worked hard to earn their way into the Middle and Upper Classes.

SINCERE APPLAUSE to Jake Tapper for being the ONLY journalist in America with professional ethics and integrity.
As for Obama, this is how liberals treat disagreement: character assassination.

Selfish? I earn approximately what Biden earns and have given about 6x what he has to charity. Obama and Biden are generous…with other people’s money.

Is not Obama selfish for not taking care of his half-brother who lives in squalor in a grass hut or his auntie Zietuni (he mentions in the book he wrote) in South Boston living in the projects?

It’s sad that no one can talk about this issue without the offensive comments. The issue really is what is the role of Government and how what services they should provide. Reasonable people can disagree on this but we currently spend close to 600 billion on defense spending alone, as well as infrastructure, education, medicare, social security and the list goes on. We can cut back on many of these programs but then the States will have to make up the difference. We will pay on way or the other. Ever since the Reagan years we have embraced this theory that if we tax the rich less that it will “magically” spread around to the other people. Meanwhile the middle class at the end of the day has very little money left. (I will concede that many middle class people have put themselves in that position.) However the point is taxes are needed to run the Government and we as a Republic must decide how to distribute the tax burden. I think that the majority of people in this country feel that if your are fortunate enough to be very wealthy you can pay more. It either this or turn into a two class country.

“Ahnold” is introducing John McCain!

Anybody who has been employed by a poor man please STAND UP! (excluding those who work for the government) What nobody? I am not surprised. Enough said!

People making under $250,000 a year will pay LESS taxes under Obama than McCain. Don’t let the neocons lie to you.
Obama/Biden 08

Rod, are you joking? You don’t understand the difference between the confiscation of your earnings by the government vs. being a cheerful giver. Think about that for just a moment. The fact that it can be written off is irrelevant. But in any event, I’d rather give my money to my charity of choice than have Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reem or Barney Frank buy votes with it

Judy, lets not forget when all this hatred started being spewed. It was after the 2000 election when all you liberals started screaming that the election was stolen. Even though every recount went the way of Bush, you never could accept that you lost. So, from that point on you and your leaders did everythink they could to tear this country down. You mocked our president, you mocked our military, you spouted hate at every conservative that dared open his mouth. Your leaders criticized our country not only on the floor of our congress but every time they went abroad.
So don’t start with your “Obama will bring us all together BS.” He has no intention of bringing us all together. His only intention is keeping the masses like you under the control of the few elites that will hold the power.

Welfare check day is the day that makes me most mad. I can go to any given grocery store and see someone in line using their welfare link card, which is all fine and dandy, then they walk outside carrying their new Louis Vuitton bag and put their free groceries into a brand new escalade. That is what my taxes are going to? Well no thank you to higher taxes.

The ant worked hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The shivering grasshopper saw this in the distance, demanding to know why the ant should be warm, cozy, and well fed, while his friends were miserable and starving. Rumors were going around the back lot and the media descended on the two like twin-engine plane storing pesticides. CBS, NBC and ABC showed up and provided pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a film of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. The neighborhood was stunned by the sharp contrast. How could it be possible that a poor, humble grasshopper was allowed to suffer, while the filthy, rich ant satisfied its belly? One day, a black beetle came along and told the concerned insect population that he would do everything he could for the grasshopper–who was denied the basic right and food he deserved. In fact, he said the ant had gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and promised to call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. The ant rebelled, but lost to the warring population. In the end, the grasshopper finished the last bits of the ant’s food while the ant decayed in the snow. Later that evening, the beetle was found dead in a hate related incident and the house, long since abandoned, was taken over by a gang of spiders who now terrorized the once peaceful neighborhood.

Obama lives in a million dollar home and his treasured aunt lives in broken-down slum apartment in Boston… funny how he wants everyone else to give but wont do it himself. Hypocrite

Any people that got rich who didn’t do it on the backs of poor people please stand up. No one? No surprise.

A lawyer with 2 years in the senate, a questionable background, no military or business experience and happens to read a teleprompter well is likely going to be the next president. A citizen who asked him a simple question about taxes has gone under more scrutiny from the mainstream media than he has.
Let’s be honest. Both parties have failed us. They have given us trillions in unfunded obligations (social security/medicare, etc), trillions more in debt and are incapable of working together. Look how divided we are as a nation compared to just a few years ago after 9/11. You can point the finger all you want at one party, but both parties are to blame. Each party has twisted the truth beyond recognition all in the name of getting elected. Hundreds of millions of dollars has been funneled from who knows where in to the campaigns (150 million in one month to Obama alone). The ends justifies the means, no matter what the consequence. It’s all abbout power and money – always has – always will.
Every four years, a bunch of talking heads tell us how horrible our lives are and that they are the ones to fix it. Well, what have they fixed? They have been talking about energy independence since the 70s, did it happen? They have talked about ending poverty since the great depression, did it end? They have talked about reducing healthcare costs and making college and everything more affordable – has any of those things happened? The only thing that has improved is the size of their wallets after they vote themselves a raise and write a book about how great they are.
People can be pushed only so far before the resentment builds to a boiling point. Look at the events leading up to the revolution and the civil war. The question for our future is which one will happen first.

liberals — if trickle down economics is such a joke, why do you think trickle down taxes will? So since the government is forcibly taking their money and giving it to poor people (after the government gets its cut) instead of them voluntarily investing it in the market or spending it, we all benefit? The only winner is the government. And what does the government want? Power. The less money we give to the government the less they can control our lives. In my book, that’s a good thing.

Judy, can’t beleive you are citing Idiocracy. That movie shows exactly what happens when you take incentive away from people and allow a singular beauacracy (government or company) make all of your decisions. When everyones on the dole, nothing gets done. Did you notice the medical care? Who wants to be a doctor when you’ll be taxed to oblivion. I know it’s only a movie but what a grat metaphor.

People please don’t forget it was George Bush who caused all our problems. HIS unjust war with people who can barely make a living, the rise in gas prices and people being kicked from there homes just because they want to live the american dream. Don’t you people understand its liberals who make a differance in this country. Not stuck in the mud good ole boy republicans who just want to steal from children. Remember when George Bush cut school lunches. I remember.

Hey Nick:
Give me an example of someone in our life time who got rich on the backs of the poor. Not Since 1865 has someone been forced to work for someone against their will. By the way. Anyone can open a business.

If Obama is elected, I will simply look forward to 2012, when Romney will run and, after the mess Obama makes of things, Americans will be begging for a competent executive. The Carter-Reagan cycle will repeat itself.

“People making under $250,000 a year will pay LESS taxes under Obama than McCain. Don’t let the neocons lie to you.
Posted by: chris”
Chris, if your going to keep parroting the lefts talking points, you need to keep up with the ever changing numbers… were now down to 120k, and falling.

I think it’s ridiculous the rich have to support the poor. What about those who don’t strive to be or do anything? The money taken from the rich in taxes to support the poor to “spread the wealth” should get to take it off as a 100% charitable contribution from their tax return! Supporting the poor like this is enabling. How else will they go and push themselves if they’re getting handouts! And to the fact that being rich is the American dream, well look where the American dream of home ownership got us! Thank you to the Dems who pushed for that!

JDK:
Weighing the candidates themselves, I’d take O over M for a lot of little things, issues, personalities, competence. If it’s any reflection as to how one would run a country, O’s campaign has been solid, on-messages and consistant. M’s has been a disjointed rollercoaster ride, a shambles.
As soon as M allied with the Bush’s gang of neocons, many of whom are heading his campaign, I knew which way I’d vote, regardless of the Dem candidate. I want those, whose philosophies have SO damaged our country, OUT!

Ashley and other liberals: A serious question, name one invention that did not arise from selfishness.

“John McCain and Sarah Palin they call this socialistic,” Obama continued. “You know I don’t know when, when they decided they wanted to make a virtue out of selfishness.”
This is, I think, the stupidest statement anyone has ever made in regards to working people and the money they earn!
When I was young and untried, I worked at jobs that were so hard, most people would not have even done them. I worked 14 hour days, six days a week in the oil patch, was covered with oil and muck and earned $1.10 an hour for my effort. That was about $70.00 a week after taxes and for someone to say I was “selfish” to want to keep my money is beyond ridiculousness.
If Barack Obama gets to be president, we may as well get used to being in muck up to our chins! The definition of “Hoplessness” is “Barack Obama!” “Barack Obama” is also the definition of,”Stupidity!”

Vote for who you want but the last time I checked we all live in America. You have the right to not support the next president. However I just sat through 8 years being called “unAmerican” for not supporting Bush. I could be angry and bitter like most of the the people writing here. I’m not. Thats politics and I am going to refrain from calling my Republican friends “unAmerican” while they criticize President Obama.

Let me see, you want me to continue to work my backside off to make people who don’t take risks and don’t work hard rich? 46% of the people currently pay no taxes, and right now I am paying 40% plus in taxes!!! This is ridiculous.
Of course things are going to get nasty at the end of this race, per Obama’s comment; he is a nasty slick operator, a thug in a pin stripe suit. A man who has had close ties with convicted criminals, like Tony and Bernadette…and avowed Marxist socialist like Bill Ayers who thought it was a really terrific idea to blow up public servants and public buildings because those institutions did not agree with him. Hey, now there is a novel political thought!
Obama’s leadership and management skills are scant….no meaningful legislation – ever, unless you think killing a baby born alive in spite of an abortion is “meaningful”. Obama couldn’t even vote YES or NO when he was in the Illinois Senate…he could only vote PRESENT. And for TWENTY years (20 years) he didn’t notice that one of his very best friends was a racist, the Reverend Wright. So does this mean Obama doesn’t listen carefully? Or doesn’t care if people are racists? Or agrees with Wright?
And in the US Senate he couldn’t show up on time for hearings, when he showed up at all. And, shall we talk about his leadership of the Project Vote arm of Acorn? 5 hours of testimony this week by a former Project Vote employee was sickening in the details of how this group has attempted to subvert the one person, one vote ethic.
Yeah….with Obama in the race things are already nasty.

Anyone notice that Obama supporters have to post more than once the same thing. I think they are scared that the truth is starting to sink in that OBAMA IS BAD FOR AMERICA! Tony Rezko, Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, PLO spokesman, Odinga who wants to institute Sharia law in Kenya. Look who Obama pals around with…bad news.
Look at when he had a Freudian slip that George had to correct…my Muslim faith. Don’t you mean your Christian faith. Oh that’s right.
Obama has never heard of the 80/20. 20 percent of individuals have 80 percent of the wealth. What I think is that it might be Obama and colleagues have 80 % of the wealth while the rest of the country has 20 % This world will never be 100% rich or even 50/50

Kat cares so much, in fact, that she wants to go into the polling booth Tues (if she hasn’t already) and choose the fate of your take-home pay. Instead of you having the choice, she wants to leave it to the govt.
The same govt that has already too many entitlement programs that are already broken.
She believes that the govt can do a better job of taking care of the poor than, say, my charity of nuns, who take a vow of poverty. If only Pelos(ki) would be that giving.
Kat and others like her (+ ACORN’s Mickey Mouse) will vote for Obama, and I’ll have less take-home pay to donate to my Richmond, Va, charity. I’ll still give 10%, but it will be 10% of less take-home.
Thanks, Kat. Thanks for “thinking” this one out.

Paul:
I must say that I too am not thrilled with M. However, I do believe very much so in balanced government. O, Polocie and reied is a scary combo. I view mcain as somewhat of a stop gap.

I don’t mind paying taxes but I detest the way they spend my hard-earned money. If they would quit wasting so much of the taxpayer’s money they would have enough to run the government and pay down the debt.

Share the wealth? Obama’s aunt andd uncle living in poverty despite his talk about “I am my brother’s keeper, my sister’s keeper?” Now is it selfishness when you OBAMA is running around the country, you’re rushing from place to place, you’re preaching redistribution of wealth, you’re preaching materialism, you’re promising money to people who contribute nothing in taxes. Are all those people who want something for nothing, who you are pandering to, are they selfish, Barry? Are these people selfish? Are they sitting around waiting for you to take somebody else’s money to give to them? Would you call them selfish after you call McCain and Palin selfish? After you call capitalism selfish? Who’s selfish?

plainsm: LuAnn, Judy is probably 13
Didn’t she star in that Youth Sings for Obama video?
Went something like this …
He’s gonna change it …
We-awange it …
Obama’s gonna change da world.
[Creeeepy like that Nazi song in Cabaret.]

2 things:
1) If I am selfish for not wanting to pay MORE taxes, then how selfish are the 56% of the Americans who pay NONE. And the 50% of THEM who actually TAKE from the rest of us?
2) I am voting for trickle down wealth, not trickle up poverty. Check out every state that has raised taxes,regulation, and unions… and ask yourself if you want to end up like, say, Michigan. Or look at European nations and what happens to their economies when they vote in leaders who lower taxes and regulations.

If Obama is so for redistributing wealth, why doesn’t he start practicing what he’s preaching. He’s the one with all the money is his campaign, and look at poor old McCain, slaving away and not able to raise any more money. Obama just needs to follow his own advice and make the check payable to “McCain for President.”

Middle Class Republican: Community Party USA would be a good fit for you. They also endorsed Obama.

Middle Class Republican: COMMUNIST Party USA would be a good fit for you. They also endorsed Obama.

My older brother chose to live a lazy life. After school, he never did much homework and his grades showed it. He was always hanging out with his friends & going to parties. I’d have loved to enjoy all the cool things he did too, but our parents’ training stuck with me while my brother resisted them at almost every turn. I studied hard and did more than my share of the chores around the house because he wouldn’t.
We both got to go to college where he took the easiest possible major, but still got kicked out of his fraternity for drinking and partying too much (I didn’t think that was possible!). I double-majored in the two hardest degrees I could handle – Physics and Engineering.
He ended up working for our dad who made the down payment on his house but not mine. My brother repaid him by stealing from him and cheating with the secretary on Dad’s dime. I never needed any handouts from my parents.
When Dad died, my long-divorced brother moved back in with mom and mooched off her till he wore her out a few years later. Even so, Mom split her remaining assets 50/50 between us (mainly her 75-year old house that needed major work). My brother didn’t lift a finger to help my wife and I with all the work of repairing & prepping her house for sale – work that cost us tens of thousands of dollars and months of personal time – even though my brother benefited equally when it sold for over twice its original estimate. In retrospect, I wish I’d just sold it as is.
I’m not wealthy – I spent my career in the auto industry and have lost a lot of income from being unemployed through the many tough times. I’ve got no pension coming – just my 401k savings. I’ll be working many more years to pay my home off – if I can find work here again. Things are tough, but everything I’ve got I earned by working hard for it, plus a little from my inheritance.
Here’s my point – Obama looks at my brother’s neediness and then says to me, “Dan, he’s “BEHIND” you – so you need to give him some of what you got – you’ve got to share your wealth!”
Who is Obama (or any Democrat) to re-distribute my earnings to those who have less because they chose not to work as hard? They’ve got their memories of all the fun times they enjoyed when I was working hard. There are consequences to every decision anyone makes – but now Obama & his friends want to make all the consequences disappear with their magic redistribution wand. Well there is no Santa Claus and redistribution doesn’t work either. The only incentive for working hard is to be able to keep the fruits of your labors. “Redistribution” is communism (pure & simple) and no intelligent person believes in that any more.
If Obama wins, I’ll kiss what’s left of America as I’ve known it goodbye and be looking for a place to live that values and rewards hard work.

An answer to William Dougherty: Not sure if it would be feasible but try this on for size: Apportion the annual cost of the federal budget to each citizen based on their income (or maybe on their wealth???) Each pays in proportion to what they own.
Citizens of our country mainly own what they do because they have been lucky enough to be born here or to have made their way here. If they can’t make the connection than they may not be selfish but certainly ungrateful.

Let me put it this way to my friends that think “the rich” will only get socked with this $250k tax deal of Obama’s (or is it $200k? (Obama last week) or is it $150k? (Biden this week in PA), or is it $130k (Gov Richardson today)).
I own a small retail specialty business that barely provides a living for myself and family (less than $100k after I pay my expenses). So if Obama’s tax deal holds I will get a tax break….WONDERFUL. But wait…
All my suppliers are $250k+ companies. Therefore the tax increase ON THEM WILL CAUSE THEM TO RAISE THE PRICES I PAY FOR PRODUCT. That means I can
1) Raise my prices to offset my increased cost. Thereby passing the increase on to my customers.
2) Layoff employees (I hire only 8 right now) to make up for supply increases and keep my prices the same (unlikely as I already work 7 days a week, 10+ hours a day).
3) Take the hit in my own wallet so I can keep my employees and prices (NOT happening being as I wont work for free or kill myself for less).
So I guess some of you Libs will say Im selfish. Why…because I have worked my butt off for 5 years to build up a business, and now Im being told to “spread the wealth”? Why? Everyone in this country has the opportunity to do what I have done…with their own blood, sweat and tears. I wasnt born rich (I am the son of a US ARMY enlisted man).
So you see…one way or the other…Obama’s tax plan will hit YOU the consumer. EIther in increased prices, layoffs, or in the end I go out of business.
Economics 101 folks….

Carl, why is your name on my post?

This is to Jake who posted at 5:47pm
Jake is one of the new Younger voters. He’s alright, but doesn’t have 50 years of life experience on this Earth, and was conned.
Obama has been media spun, presented in a bright wholesome manner, and he is physically handsome. He speaks with no dialect. Has a great smile and sounds intelligent enough. Almost moderate at times.
In reality under the Facade he is more like Jessie Jackson, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, and Karl Marx.
This is really gonna be something to see. I hope you all enjoy it.

Oh, Jozsef, do I hear a bit of class envy?? Earned or not, it is still THEIR OWN money, is it not??

Carl. Apologies for a genuine mistake on my part regarding name on post

jozsef-
A lot of lazy people would leave me struggling to deem their needs my problem.

cats out of the bag…. the MSM been skewing the polls bigtime….CNN says Obama has clinched….. WRONG!!!…GET OUT AND VOTE REPUBS THE POLLS ARE BS…
BIG MAC IS LEADING IN EARLY VOTING IN CALIFORNIA….FACT!!!!!!

Everyone blames Bush, but the President does NOT make law! The President can sponsor a bill (that may or may not become a law) or veto a bill after it’s been through the Congress, but he does NOT make law. The responsibility for the creation of laws is that of Congress. And interestingly, Congress has a 16% approval rating – while Bush’s approval rating is 26%. Now for the kicker – the Congressional majority is Democrats! So, we have a Democratic Congress with a 16% approval rating that is responsible (but not accountable – Bush gets that honor) for the past 2 years of miserable failures, including the financial meltdown! Embolden and empower an inept Congress by electing an inexperienced junior Senator with far-left viewpoints? Not me – I’m proudly voting for McCain/Palin in 2008!

“This election will finally put someone in the White House who will give reparations to every black in America for the hundreds of years of slavery of blacks. It’s time for white people to pay up! ”
The only pay you will get from me is one .357 slug at a time….come get some!

I, too, was smitten with the eloquence and the “passion” and the rhetoric of Obama when I first heard him speak. I looked at my husband, and I said “Wow! He “sounds” really good…..just what this country needs.
THEN……my husband, who served in the Army, pulled me aside and basically told me Obama is a creep. I started listening to what I could, but soon was turned off by the media’s obvious bias (i.e. Charlie Gibson’s condescending attitude, etc.)
I finally figured out that unless you do your OWN soul searching and research, anyone could fall for Obama’s deception.
Mind you, I am 56 years old. Just what the heck are these younger people (i.e. college kids) and others hearing? I assume they got to the first phase of listening to these candidates, and stopped right there.
I think if McCain had the past associations that Obama has, the Democraps would be SCREAMING!
How can we so quickly forget 9/11 that we don’t even FLINCH about the fact that Obama has mentioned his “Muslim faith,” the 57 states in the USA (relates to Muslim states.) his 20 year
association with the whoremonger Jeremiah Wright, who damns America and white people, his associations with all kinds of shady people, etc….one who feels he “didn’t do enough” in bombing our country. And don’t forget ACORN! The aforementioned things ALONE should raise some questions, but no….those in love with Obama can’t see what he will do to this country.
Obama mentions that we should be our brother’s keeper, yet he allows his own family to live in poverty.
Obama has spent kazillions on this campaign. I am sure he would do the same when elected, and guess who will pay for it? (By the way, he LIED about receiving campaign money….how many lies will he tell if he gets in office?
He wants to eliminate Bush’s tax cut? Don’t you know what that will mean for you individually? Apparently not.
Check out http://www.maps.google.com/maps and look at Obama’s credentials. And you have the nerve to say Palin is not qualified? She is more qualified than Obama! Besides, she is not running for the highest office. and how about Biden? now THAT’S a joke!
Look how obama has banned two TV stations because they asked some hard-core questions. Look how his campaign has attacked the common person (like you and me) named Joe the Plumber? He will do the same thing to all the rest of us. He will ban talk radio and our freedom of speech because it disagrees with HIS agenda!
He says the Republicans don’t value human life because the kill the innocent (in wars, etc.) but it’s because of wars that we can PROTECT the innocent. And I guess that means aborted babies are not considered innocent.
He sure protects the Roe vs. Wade decision, yet wants to abolish the second amendment. How can this moron consciously take the oath of office, when the President is suppose to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. He has even commented that the Constitution is flawed.
And talk about negative campaigning, have you ever heard Oblahma say anything positive about our country? I sure haven’t.
He received all this money for his campaign. He should give some to McCain, who doesn’t have as much! Oh wait? but that’s HIS hard earned money…. makes a difference, doesn’t it?
These people who are so smitten with Obama don’t even know what his policies are, or why they are voting for him. Howard Sterns video on the “Harlem vote”
(do a google search for it and you ill find it) completely tells it all.
As Obama is hailed as the savior of America it’s clear that the misguided in our country are ready to live under a new America. The America that Obama and his liberal colleagues have longed for; a socialist America. The Communist Party has already declared victory as Obama nears the finish line.
It’s clear that Americans understand that a vote for Obama is a vote against freedom. A vote for Obama is a vote for government. Not just the big government that we are used to, but a much worse government.
The new government under Obama and a democratic controlled congress will be socialism at it’s finest.
But you already know that. That’s why you are voting for him. You want socialist universal health care. You want liberal judges on the Supreme Court so that they can push the socialist agenda from the highest court in the land. You want to redistribute or as Obama says, “spread the wealth” in America just as the communists before you did. You want to continue killing innocent babies on a daily basis. You want your rights slowly taken away in the name of fairness. You want God replaced by the religion of Environmentalism.
For once I am thankful my parents have passed away. Seeing what has happened with the American people being so brainwashed with their Messiah would absolutely shock them.
On Election Day I will cast my vote for John McCain. If Obama wins I fear for the future of America. I foresee me sitting down with my children years from now and telling them how great America once was.