Palin Charges Against Obama Seem to Move from Socialism to Communism

Dear Sarah,
Please shut up and stop throwing around these terms you don’t even understand. Communist states are usually in some ways similar to a fascist one- totalitarian. Big Brother is watching you and all. Kind of like what a certain REPUBLICAN president did with the PATRIOT Act, hmm? And the whole wiretapping and invasion of privacy thing? And, in a Communist and Socialist country, there is no privatization AT ALL. All the businesses, land, whatever, belongs to the state. The upper-class would have all their money seized, all their properties taken away to be divided up for everyone.
Now, giving people tax credits in comparison can hardly be called “Socialist”. I think it’d be good for the government to regulate the broken health care system, why not?
Sarah, you obviously don’t know what a socialist is, since by definition, your running-mate’s proposal to have the government bailout the bad mortgages is socialist. In comparison, Obama “the Socialist” never suggested such a thing and rejected McCain’s proposal at the debate. You are just doing this to link it to negative connotations of the Cold War and the whole link the Soviets have to socialism.

I agree Lisa!! I just heard on CNN that “McCain team tensions go public”!!! Apparently she is looking out for herself and not McCain. Talk about being ungrateful!!

Seriously? “government as part of your family, taking care of us, making decisions for us”. Two words–Terri Schiavo. Which party wants to make decisions for families?

Why Palin is a danger to America……
‘…This is the type of ignorant Christian Nationalism, where hillbilly gut instincts and religious edicts trump knowledge and reason, that corrupt Republicanism has devolved into.
This is what is meant to be “conservative” these days. It has nothing to do with the conservatism of years past, and everything to do with nativism , reflexive hatred of the other, suspicion and derision towards those who know something, and cronyism.
This woman embodies everything that is wrong with the current Republican party; there is a reason the know-nothings embrace her.’

Only 9 more days left of this. I can’t wait.
Tomorrow Palin is going to be calling Obama “Hitler”.

Alice,
From the way it seems to be going, I think in 9 days she’ll be calling him Mr President.

The GOP is the party that wants the state to decide on all matters of life and death. THAT is the core of both communist and fascist states.
It is the Democrats that defend individual rights in these matters. That is as anti-communist and anti-fascist as it gets. It’s American, part of our Constitution.

Tomorrow Palin is going to throw a “Bachman” and say that Obama has “anti-American” views and doesn’t believe in “pro-America”.

Palin/McCain at a political event horizon.
So sad.

After Obama has won the election, the Palins will join the Alaska Independence Party again.
If it’s lucrative, that is. She needs clothes, remember? Lots of clothes.

Well, McCain started his campaign by saying Obama was a pedophile, then a socialist, now a communist.
What’s left really? Nazi? Poor McCain, he’s run such a horrible campaign and it’s gotten him nowhere! Only these uneducated gop dead-enders seem to believe this garbage.

I thought McCarthyism was a national disgrace, and a national trauma. It destroyed the creers and lives of many totally American Americans. It was as close to Stalinism as the USA has ever been. The paranoia of power.
But what does Palin know. Or care.
She is a disgrace. The GOP will slaughter her after McCain’s loss.

I have to laugh at the fools who display there ignorance on this thread. They regurgitate the same nonsense post after post as if they are going to influence anyone towards their positions.
Gov. Palin will become president either after Sen. McCain or on her own. Deal with it!

Kate Buckingham, Well said! I could not have said it better myself..How can people even consider voting for (Vietnam/Iraq McCain) that’s all he talks about..I am not voting for the president of Vietnam or Iraq..I am voting for the president of the United States of America. When the Republicans back are against the wall..they pull out code words like socialism,communism,liberal etc…They are pathetic. McCain stated about three months ago that he does not know much about the economy..is that the type of president I want in the white house? Palin is an attack dog..she never says what a McCain government is going to do to reverse the current economic situation but she uses the campaign to attack Obama’s character etc. “Pitbull in a dress”. You are right Kate..I have done some travelling and its amazing how the world supports Obama and is hoping for an Obama win..and on the other hand how the world looks on in amazement how people are even considering voting for the member of a Party(Republican) who single handedly destroyed the US economy. Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans!

For what it is worth Barak Obama has a more liberal voting record than the one elected Socialist in Congress (that being Bernie Saunders of Vermont). There are no Communists in Congress, but if there was one I would assume Sen. Obama would be to the right of him/her. By how much. I can’t say.

Sarah Palin doesn’t let up!! What will it be tomorrow??? Any person with average knowledge of government would go – here she goes again. Her claims are so absurd!! Claims don’t even make any sense!! Who is doing her speech writing??
Jake you are quite correct she is referring to communism. I research her well and found she is what I would classify as a “wolf in sheep’s clothing.” Only this wolf’s attacks are laughable!!
The stock market was down another 300+. America is in financial meltdown crisis. Sarah Palin doesn’t even get that right. I find she lies right and left. But then she was found to have abused her power as Governor of Alaska this month.

This is the same woman that think she will be in charge of the nation as a VP. She’ll be history in a few more days.
But what has happened to John McCain?
The man has sold his integrity and every bit of self esteem to try and win this election. It’s so sad and pathetic.
Guess he figures this is his last shot.

Ick. I think I need a shower after reading those comments.
Bless their hearts, the Republican Party has become entirely unhinged. They are long past just offering bad policies, which only leaves the dangerous, demonizing rhetoric.

To say this woman is crazy is an understatement, and don’t forget, dumb, every time she speaks, it just gets worse for McCain, I just feel bad for her kids, they have been brain washed to think the way she does….

Jake Tapper,
You are putting words in her mouth.
Palin never said communism.
I am so sick of the media smearing her.
She didn’t say anything about communism.
If she breathes you media types jump on her.
Enough already.

Sarah makes us laugh. She mouths whatever is written and put in front of her. Don’t think she understands what she is reading and the difference between socialism and communism.
Anyone takes what she says seriously ought to have his/her head examine or go back to school to learn the critical thinking skills that are so under developed, yet vital for a successful democratic society.

Concerned in Ohio, I do not think you are that stupid..listen to her words..the implication is that Obama is a communists.. But that is what you Republicans do when your backs are against the wall..you use code words to scare people..Republicans are pathetic! Go away for a while so that our country can be respected in the world again and our economy can make a turn for the better. Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans!

Sen. Obama (D-ACORN) has voted with Senate Leader Reid 97% of the time!
Now, we realize that the democrat controlled Congress has a 9% approval rating, right?

Jake, could you please counter such utter BS charges with the facts? That’s necessary, I’m afraid: most of Palin’s fans are so naive they actually believe her.
The McCain-Palin ticket does not oppose a progressive tax system. In fact, back in 2000, McCain said that rich people paid more in taxes because they could afford to do so:
“I think the first people who deserve a tax cut are working Americans with children that need to educate their children,” he said, “and they’re the ones that I would support tax cuts for first.”
More importantly, Obama’s tax plans are less progressive than those during the Clinton years.
In fact, the rates that people making over $250,000 would have to pay would be the same as during the 1990s – a time definitely not marked by the absence of freedoms.

Someone forgot to give this woman her medication again it seems. She is really doing a number on McCain’s campaign.
Like everyone else who posted here, I can’t wait for Nov 4 and then Palin’s 15 minutes are over and she can go hide in the igloo she crawlwd out of.
Since at one point i liked Mccain, a friendly bit of advice- Mccain, there is still time, drop her and select someone else. With the way things are right now, Mccain has nothing to lose since he is in freefall anyway.

I’m so tired of the media bias.
There is no democracy left in america.
You have 85 percent of the media doing whatever they can to elect Obama.
This is the most biased covered election in our lifetime.
This is unhealthy for demoracy.
You wind up with 300 dem house seats, 60 dem senate seats, most libreal president, liberal media, liberal courts.
So you think Obama, Pelosi, Reid with filibuster proof majority is good for democracy.
We need McCain to veto Reid and Pelosi’s spending not Obama to go along.
We need balance in government and checks and balances not giving Obama all the power.
Obama is a joke he had never even been to western europe before July.
Obama has no record so he goes around pretending he is running against Bush.
This election is a disgrace.
Hillary got more votes and was cheated out of the nomination.
What a disgrace this process is.

Captain America:
You and Jason are drinking from the same glass of spiked koolaid..keep on drinking! If you think we are going to put a man who owns 9 houses and 13 cars as president of these United States you are drinking and dreaming at the same time. Such a wealthy(his wife)or rich(him)man cannot understand the situation that currently affects the middle class Americans. I always tell people that there are two classes of people who support the Republican party 1. People who are rich(because their taxes are low) and 2. People who pretend to be rich. The interesting thing is that the Republicans who heretofore pretended to be rich are now flocking to support Obama because they are really feeling the pinch of the stupid Republican theory of trickle down economics..there is not even a trickle now! Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans!

Palin is a fruitcake and this just another example of it! Losing and trying anything, next Obama will be called a vampire. What a bunch of dolts! Come on Palin, I heard Obama is a vampire, who wants our blood! Moron!

A former President of the Harvard Law Review, professor and expert on the American Constitution, a communist?
LOL!
Why not a buddhist? A cyclist? A dentist?
Wish these 10 days would be OVER. The crap and trash coming out of this mom in diva clothing is killing me.

Sarah Palin is treading dangerously close to Ashley Todd’s mental health, or lack thereof. Do you think she too will be attacked by a meticulous, dyslexic “big black man?”

“Chavez, Castro and Putin support Obama.”
LOL
And you think Putin is a communist?
LOL
Do you KNOW anything about the world?
Just wondering.

Stanley,
Average americans have Rezko to get them a mansion like Obama had.
Average americans have credit card executives to get them a mansion like Biden did for half price.
Average americans give Rezko 14 million in earmarks like Obama did for favors buying a mansion.

“Gov. Palin is someone liberals fear, much like they did Ronald Reagan. And, she too will become a great president.”
Reagan would despise Palin.
Peggy Noonan attacked and rejected Palin several times now in the WSJ. Noonan was Reagan’s greatest speech writer, and a true conservative.
Noonan despises Palin’s superficial populism and lack of knowledge and philosophy. So do many conservatives from the Reagan area.

Enough is enough. I’ve been defending McCain non-stop against the Obama nonsense, but c’mon, communism, that is way overreaching. The only communists I’ve seen in the last few years are the right wing that wants to impose its heartless mindset on what people do in the bedroom. The health insurance proposal is far from anything that remotely resembles communism. If anything, Wall Street speculative greed has brought us to the brink of collapse and the only way out now is more regulation. The days of greed are almost over. Obama has now become inevitable because McCain’s lousy campaign can’t get its message straight, so basically I’m telling you to get used to it suckas.

She was hoping that Florida nutcase interview would have given her ammo, but alas! Oh, btw, a few days ago, when we were talking about Palin’s $150k wardrobe and I was talking about the NYT layout on A15/A22 which on the same page had a N-M ad on the same side of the paper….I didn’t think there was a Neiman’s in the NY metro area, which made the ad very odd to be in NYT at all. Turns out there is an outlet store on Long Island now.
Now, why is someone whom the NYT just destroyed for having more zooey Wasilla Assembly of God connections to other witch hunters even being taken seriously?
Oh. We’re having fun with her, since all she is now is a joke.

Stanley, you are a Republican..this Stanley is a proud Democrat..glad to meet you but you need to put down the koolaid..This Stanley supports the winning team(Obama/Biden). All my entries are pro Obama because like the millions of voters who will vote for Obama on November 4, I am a thinker and I don’t watch the garbage on Fox(Hannity,Oreilly etc. Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans!

If Palin knew anything about history or economics, she wouldn’t be making these ridiculous allegations.

Sheesh, you whine about $150K in wardrobes that you are not contributing to, what idiots!
I am a contributor to McCain-Palin and I am pleased to see how the funds are allocated (unlike you grumbling liberals) who have no standing in the matter.
Now, in fairness:
1. How much was Obama’s (D-ACORN) temple of Zeus constructed for his coronation?
2. How much was that trip he made in Oct-Nov 2007 to get his murderous “cousin” Raila Odina elected in Kenya. Which may have cost him the primary win in New Hampshire?
3. How much was the “citizen of the world” trip?
Such selection indignation by those who have no skin in the game (i.e., never contributed to McCain-Palin). Don’t you realize how foolish you appear?

JPT,
You’re making it up while showing your obvious bias.
What ever happened to journalistic integrity? Perhaps you’re the wrong person to ask about that.

Stanley, you are making up stories(Rezko/Bden) like a typical Republican..you guys never cease to amaze me on your story telling. Obama nor Biden does not own 13 cars and 9 houses..I know that for a fact..Hey Stanley(Republican) can you explain to me why at the Republican convention/s you only see white people, mostly old and sad looking..and also at the McCain/Palin campaign stops you only see white people with sad,scary faces? and at the Democratic convention you see a multicultural/cosmopolitan crowd and at Obama/Biden campaign you a multicultural crowd which is more representative of America? Can you break it down for me and explain why? Me think you shall not! Your Republican party is losing ground..just this week two prominent Republicans voiced that they will be voting for Obama. 1.Powell 2. Scott McClellan(Bush’s former press secretary). Thank you guys! you do not stand alone because many Republicans are seeing the light and coming over. Heaven help us all and save us from those Republicans!

Stanley, the Rev Wright issue is dead..Obama put the final nail into that coffin and America is not buying it anymore..what else do you guys have in your pocket before November 4..Marxist? Communist? What! What! Republicans are pathetic. The same thing the George W. team did to McCain in South Carolina in 2004 is the same thing that he is trying to do to Obama..he even hired some of George Bush’s 2004 attack dogs..Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans!

Scott,
He is too old! and they are going to lose in November!(Republicans). Enough said! Obama will invest in the middle class and get rid of the Republican party voodoo economics based on the trickle down theory. Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans!

If Bush moved the tax bracket upwards, and Obama moves it back down to where it was when REAGAN was president….how is that any different from what every other GOOD president has done?
Last time I checked most Republicans loved Reagan, so you would think they would LOVE to have someone honor what Reagan did and put our taxes back along the same lines.
GEE, use your brain.

Grey Matter,
You had me at “shut up”.
But thanks for a thoughtful explanation.

I think when the whole story comes out about all the freebies she has extorted or received from her oil company friends in Alaska she will have done in 4 years what it took Ted Stevens almost 40 to accomplish. By the way, where are the medical records?

This is a bit rich coming from a governor who asked for the most earmarks of any governor in the country, by a huge margin, then used then sent cheques to everyone in Alaska. What an opportunistic hypocrite!

She was hoping that Florida nutcase interview would have given her ammo, but alas! Oh, btw, a few days ago, when we were talking about Palin’s $150k wardrobe and I was talking about the NYT layout on A15/A22 which on the same page had a N-M ad on the same side of the paper….I didn’t think there was a Neiman’s in the NY metro area, which made the ad very odd to be in NYT at all. Turns out there is an outlet store on Long Island now.
Now, why is someone whom the NYT just destroyed for having more zooey Wasilla Assembly of God connections to other witch hunters even being taken seriously?
Oh. We’re having fun with her, since all she is now is a joke.

Obama isn’t even populist, much less socialist. Obama is MILES to the right of John Edwards, and Edwards was nowhere close to socialist. Obama’s trade policies are to the right of Reagan’s, Ford’s, Nixon’s, and Eisenhower’s. Obama is the most Conservative Democratic nominee in American history.

If Obama Hussein is elected the stock market and economy will take another major dive. Even though I lost $ I will move the remaining amout out before trading. The market fell 4,000 pts since the bailout and will fall another 5,000 if the socialist is elected. The free market in the US does not like gov’t control (markets in South America can attest to) and will virtually dry up. Something similar to the great depression will occur. Possibly markets in emrging eastern European countries which favor democracy will survive or certain Asian markets.

Geo Bush has been training troops for civil unrest within the US under a expanded congressional legislation. This occured after Katrina. The thought now is if the economy regresses into a depression encouraged by a socialist gov’t forced by an Obama presidency which will lead to unrest. Although a coup has not even been thought of in the US it may be a reality if certain economic and political events come to a fruition. – The military does not support Obama.

Jim Nuzzo, a White House aide to the first President Bush:
“Win or lose, there is a ready made conservative candidate waiting in the wings. Sarah Palin is not the new Iain Duncan Smith, she is the new Ronald Reagan.” If the country survives a failed Obama term this will be true. Clinton had a dismal first year in office and unfortunately if Obama is elected he will have a dismal four years. His policies just don’t make sense for an economy is such a state as it is now. Clinton was at least a Centrist. The economy improved but his policies including the repeal of Glass Stiegal lead to the start of the subprime mess.

Sorry, are we still listening to what Palin says – and reporting on it? Why?
Is anyone else ready for this election to be over? Enough is enough. Although I am still waiting for my last big McCain campaign stunt…

I cannot believe the crazy diatribes about Socialism and Communism, just because Obama wants to to end the tax breaks put in place by that economic wizard, George W Bush. For heavens sakes, it takes a lot of nerve to rant on about how Obama will ruin democracy and kill our economy after everything that has happened in the last eight years. I don’t even recognize the country I grew up in, that my dad fought in World War ll to defend and protect. The right wingers have made this into a dark, scary and divided nation. I hope it is not too late to undo the damage.

I’ve read all the comments, and as a “high knowledge” person that researches everything I can, I can honestly say: Some of you republicans (republican Stanley, Captain America,Jason, etc.) that are regurgitating the Fox talking points like they are the truth really make me sad for what that channel has done to this country. They should be required to have a disclaimer that everything they say is “opinion” and not very well informed opinion either, and not real news.
You know why the other news sources don’t say what Fox does? Because it is not true!! You people are the kind of people who think the National Enquirer always tells the truth … Fox lies, do you understand?

Now, how abiout detesting Communist climes with such ferocity and dexterity shown by this celeb VP and yet taking (borrowing) China’s money to finance a misguided war in Iraq as well as its forlorn offsprings, aka, “the surge”, “bring our soldiers home in victory”. So much for the defence of the American freedom while taking Americans to debt peonage, all in the name of “defending American freedom”.

Lucy, instead of characterizing. Why don’t you prove them as lies.

Grey Matter, Sarah Palin is no McCain. She is about freedom, freedom and more freedom. Something u seem to hate.

John e. —- Sarah Palin is hardly for freedom. She is a strong believer in her church, which is Charismatic Pentacostal. They (and she) believe in a Theocracy … that means a Church run government. Her church. They also believe in demons inhabiting zip codes and states and individual people. I couldn’t make this up.

If obama wants a fair tax system. Whys does he not come out with an asset tax?

I am no Republican, own no gun and have not attended church for years. I will stand behind a candidate who believes in freedom foremost. Which one will that be? So all u keep drinking the kool-aid as Obama will break Jim Jones record.

Erika……..u believe in his policy. Then you are a socialist. Nothing wrong with that.

John, if you think that McCain and Palin are the best choice for you, then vote for them. Obviously anything in the way of real information doesn’t get in the way of your decision LOL!
I think Sarah Palin is the worst possible choice McCain could have picked as VP. Not only is she an extremist right Christian who believes in Theocracy, she has shown definite dishonest (if not illegal) behavior in her dealings as a Mayor and Gov of Alaska, she is the member of an extremist anti-womens rights group (Concerned Women for America)and has a total diregard of the sanctity of animals life (Cruelty to animals)(shooting wolf pups from a helicopter and passing a law that if people bring back the right paw of a wolf they get $1000)Not to mention her refusal to believe a subspecies of Polar bear is becoming extinct and that global climate changes are man made.
From the abstinence only, anti-science, anti-evolution, man started 4,000 years ago, censorship promoting, anti-Pro choice platform she stands for,
everything I have found out about her from independant nonpartisan sources is so against everything I am. I find her hugely distasteful in everyway, to the expensive tramp clothes she wears now (knee high leather boots, give me a break!)to the flirting and winking on stage. What kind of VP behavior is this? How disgusted would you be if Obama (or McCain .. yew I just threw up in my mouth at that thought) behaved that way??? It’s politics, not a beauty pagent or American Idol. I half expect her to hold a finger up to remind us to vote for no. 1. YUCK YUCK YUCK … she singlehandidly put women back 20 years.
Why didn’t McCain pick Gov.Carol Sebelius for VP?
I really really really don’t like anything about Sarah Palin. From her ambition putting her unwed pregnant daughter in the limelight, making Levi have a shot gun wedding even though his MySpace said he never wanted kids or to get married, her son having to go in the military because of multiple drug charges, her involvement with The Alaska Independence Party whose Founder Joe Vogler accepted money from the government of Iran so he could go to the UN and promote his party.
Every single thing about Sarah Palin I find distasteful.

Brooklyn Democrat,
We are not against choice. We support liberty and freedom and choice as Republicans. You take ONE ISSUE out of it’s greater context and declare we are against choice as conservatives. No, we are not against choice. However, you have to admit that when one person’s choice harms and wounds another person – one person’s will is imposing injury on another person… and that’s not right.
You cannot defend a principle that says, “I want my choice even if someone else is harmed.” That’s wrong. The law must protect the injured party – the victim – against the aggressor… or we could have no laws defending people from violent crimes, assault, rape, and murder.
Stop and think about it. No one wants to restrict your free choices as a conservative. Just don’t cross the line to hurt someone else… or we will rise up to defend the innocent victims of aggression.
Don’t you want us to protect people from being harmed, wounded, injured, or even killed??
Now, do you want to try to tell me that a baby is not a human being??
If that baby inside your womb that you murdered wasn’t a baby, what was it??

“…government as part of the family, taking care of us, making decisions for us.”
Hmm. Sounds a lot like Palin’s Alaska: yearly “dividend” checks to all of its citizens (including babies!), appointing a boatload of high school buddies (“family”) to positions they were unqualified for, shutting down competitive bidding on the non-existent gas pipeline (her advisers were lobbyists for TransCanada or its subsidies)…yep, I quite agree; Alaska is, in essence, a Communist state!
P.S. Especially love the fact that this year, welfare checks to constituents were $3,269.00 for every man, woman, and child. This, for doing absolutely nothing…no “hard work” required. In fact, no “work,” period! Well all I can say is: Those lazy welfare “queens” in Alaska better stop makin’ so many babies just to get bigger checks…shameless, I tell ya…

We have allowed the government to incrimentally take over our lives and apparently some americans are so incapable that they think government needs to do everything for them. The federal government was not supposed to oversee every part of our life. They should be providing infrastructure and national security. That is it.
This entire financial mess was created by the government micromaning housing. It is an unintended (hopefully) consequence of congress mandating to Fannie and Freddie that they reduce requirements for underwritting mortgages. Legistators created this mess and now they are creating a bigger mess by getting further involved in the process.
This is the opportunity Ayers and other 60′s radicals have been waiting for all this time. It will not be long now before we will no longer be able to save for our children’s future. We will have to give all of our money for other children’s future while their parents collect our tax dollars for complaining that they are not getting enough.

They should ask Palin what both of those words mean, see if she can even answer the question.

Laura is just trying to maintain enthusiasm for Obama. She is throwing out outlandish accusations just like McSame/Pain do that has caused them to lose so many points in the election polls. Thank you Laura. Your ramblings and accustaions have probably made a few others see that the Republicans platform is “don’t vote for me, vote against Obama.”

I believe that when you really look at the tax code the very wealthy because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes really don’t pay as much as you think they do, when you just look at the percentages. And I think middle income Americans, working Americans, who when you count in payroll taxes, sales taxes, mortgage — all of the, all of the taxes that working Americans pay — I think you would also think that they also deserve very significant relief.

FLIP-FLOPPER
careful you are using the republican strategy from the last election.

Do you believe Abraham Lincoln was a great president?

JSF
I am not a neo repub. As I said I am for choice. I just wonder how many have regretted their choice after. All I am saying is that one visit to a counselor so that every aspect is covered and brought to the table. Some may never think there is a viable alternative. I agree with stay out of my family and let me run it how I would like. Yet you are for government interference when it benefits you if you are for Obama.

For those who believe Abraham Lincoln was a great president here is the following.
Historians and politicians made Abraham Lincoln a great president. If he truly was a great president is rarely discussed. Today, much of the voting population seems to have disgust for George W. Bush’s disregard for the rights of individuals and his own Constitutional restraints. Yet Abraham Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus, spent money without Congressional authorization, imprisoned 18,000 suspected Confederate sympathizers without any trial and conducted at least 4,271 trials by military commission. Note the remarkable similarities: George W. Bush defined captured enemies as “enemy combatants”, denied these “enemy combatants” Habeas Corpus and tried these “enemy combatants” through military tribunals. Will historians and future politicians make George W. Bush a great President?

seemstome
I think overall everyone has the same feeling please tax everyone else but me. The very rich seldom use any of the services their money provides for.
I woould rather see a fair flat tax. No loopholes. Whatever percentage it is everyone pays. The rich would still pay more. We talk about fairness but do not want to practice it if we are affected somehow. Again go to the website and read it. Even with their lawyers and loopholes they still account for 85%. Are you saying it should be 100%

I think if when we paid our taxes and we knew the money was spent wisely and with restraint all people would be willing to pay their share. We pay and watch our debt continue to grow with every president which causes frustration. Some things need changing. I know welfare is different in almost every state. Here in NY we have second and third generation welfare families. They believe it is a way of life. I think there should be limitations on how long you can collect. They say there are no jobs. Everyday I check the paper and open to the help wanted. There are still plenty of job listings there. Medicaid is a burden to the working taxpayer. When I see people on medicaid getting better care than the working man with insurance, then have have no co-pay and have cell phones, big screen tv etc I think that is wrong. Is Obama going to change any of that? Will McCain?? Probably neither. As I said before, when you get right down to it they only need us little people to get to the white house. After that we are forgotten for the next 4 years.

Socialism per Wikipedia:
Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.
Does this sound familiar?

You got it exactly right, A Veteran. And to be honest with you, I’ve gotten to the point where I almost feel the election is rigged to begin with. Too many things, and the timing thereof, are too coincidental. So what are the little people really here for? Worker bees and people told to get into debt and that debt is good and the American way… so the big hoo-haws can make lots of money.

msa123
About the debt I couldn’t agree more. I watched two programs that really brought it to life. I recommend watching Frontline: The secret history of the Credit Card
The other is : In Debt We Trust
Everyone should watch and understand the cards are stacked against you.

In America, only Freedom is sacred.
There is only one religion in the United States of America and it’s Bible is the Constitution, it’s Ten Commandments are the Bill of Rights, and it’s Lord’s Prayer is the Declaration of Independence.
Sarah Palin is a demagogue who would destroy our religion for her own power.
She needs to go back to Juneau, or get a talk show.

seemstome
You seem to imply that Obama is honoring the constitution. One of the Constitutional requirements has to due the being a natural born citizen in order to become president. Why then is it taking a lawsuit for him to simply prodeuce his birth certificate and honor that requirement.

msa123
Thank you but I probably wouldn’t want the job if it means having to have my family attacked by journalism. I have always believed in the KISS method. Keep It Simple Stupid. Work smarter not harder. I just believe that we desperately need to change how government is run. Successful companies change when they see the need, why can’t the government. We need to send people to washington who really truly are for the people. That is in every spot in government, not just the elected officials. People who know how to live within their means. People who know fiscal soundness is vitally improtant. We complain about big oil and their profits which yes are excessive. I have looked into wind and solar power for our home and guess what? It seems cost prohibitive. $25,000 – 45,000 to implement it. I can pay for 20 – 40 years of the current prices for that amount of money. I want a green planet too. How about those in power for a green planet do something about those costs so we can afford to implement it. We need to cut down on foreign aid. I don’t know too many fiscally sound minded people that borrow money to give to someone else. We the people, you know the little guys need more than ever, and I mean both sides, we need to stay on top of whoever is elected to insure that we the people are the first and foremost on their minds.

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel and it must be getting awfully crowded in that refuge for McCain, what with the whole republican party using it too.

Dave in lv
Thanks again. Unfortunately we never get to see someone like ourselves, the good little people out here running for office. I remember many years ago a readers digest article about 4 fresmen congressmen newly elected and how they were going to Washington to change government. We never heard from them again and ther was never another article about them. The black hole know as washington swallowed them up.

John McCain has been acting erratically ever since he selected Palin for his running mate. When the economy failed his behavior became bizarre. Stresses on any president in the next few years are going to be extreme . They will be fatal for someone in McCain’s health and mental state. When he steps down we will then inherit his Palin fiasco.
Now Colin Powell has recognized these facts and has endorsed Obama as being a cool-headed and logical leader who is more fit for the presidency.
Kipling said it best:
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream–and not make dreams your master,
If you can think–and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
He was talking about men like Obama.

Sharonklim
Be fair now. Palin never said the word communism. The article author made that connection.

A Veteran: I cannot imagine our govt if it were filled with people like you. That is why I get so irritated at the general population thinking that one man is going to get in there and make life grand for those “that deserve it”. I feel insulted that they’ve (don’t know “they” are except that they are the ones that control the money and ‘universe’) hurled a man at us (Obama) to try and make us feel all warm and fuzzy inside because if that was not the case, we’d probably all rise up and go hang the CEOs of those lending companies!! They distract us and give us someone we can find ‘hope’ in and so we ‘settle down’. I believe that is how they keep the general population under their thumb… give them a Reagan or Obama type personality… Anyhow, like you or someone else here said, if a truly decent and good man gets in there, anywhere in govt, they get sucked up and never get anything done. There is arm twisting, legislation that talks about funding for pig farmers for someone’s state on the same legislation that talks about bailing out a corporation. It all sounds very dismal because it is. I guess it’s okay to dream that it’s different but unfortunately, after 45 years I cannot believe my dreams anymore.

I agree with you, A Veteran, and as usual, Obama has waffled on this issue as well. He waits until something is obvious and then is either for or against it based on the outcome. He has no principles. Or they are ‘after the fact’ principles. Just like his 20 yr delayed severing of ties with his minister. The list goes on and on.

Dear A Veteran,
I would like to thank you for your service to country. It is an honor to know that there were men and women who answered the call during those times. As for your comments, I am very glad you have not stooped to the low road like many here for done so. I do urge all to inspect the candidates RECORDS and not their RHETORIC to see who will lead more effectively. Yes, in this case, the PAST will dictate the FUTURE. Thanks again, sir.

A Veteran,
I would agree with the caveat the Iraqi government works out an acceptable agreement. If not, then they are choosing to do it on their own.

fraggenboots
You are entirely welcome and Thank you also. It is nice to hear from people who understand history. The past does dictate the future, always has. There was a quote from Abe Lincoln: “There are no accidents in my philosophy. Every effect must have its cause. The past is the cause of the present, and the present will be the cause of the future. All these are links in the endless chain stretching from the finite to the infinite

This has been one of more pleasant sessions here for quite awhile. The right to vote for the candidate of your choice is the cornerstone of our government. I only ask that you make the decision wisely as all of our futures are at stake. I need to go for now but will be back later. Thanks to all for your ideas and comments done with better taste than some I have heard other days.

Obama claims he hardly ever met Rezko, or just a few times at most.
The FBI has Obama meeting with him weekly.
Who do you believe?
Obama claims Ayers was just some guy in the neighborhood.
Yet his wife was friends with Ayers’ wife for 17 years. Ayers foundation gave Obama a job as chairman of the boeard. Obama directed millions of dollars to groups founded by Ayers. Obama’s coming out party was in Ayers’ living room.
Who do you believe?

Dave writes, “Who do you believe?”
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I will tell you who I don’t believe..You. (lol) What you just wrote is nothing short of a lie. The information available to day pretty much allows anyone who is worth his/her salt to discern between fact and fiction. You my friend, pure fiction.

Everytime this woman speaks she confirms what an idiot she is.

indy_voter
Socialism per Wikipedia:
Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.
Does this sound familiar?

There should be a rule in politics that before you accuse someone of something, you need to actually know what that thing is
Calling Obama, or even just his economic plan, “socialist” is inane.
On the other hand, what apparently *is* a rule in the McCain campaign is that you can accuse your opponent of something only if you’ve done or said the same thing yourself, but to an even greater extent.
Case in point: here’s what John McCain himself has said:
“Look, here’s what I really believe: That when you are, when you reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.”