By Lee Speigel

Oct 14, 2008 10:13pm

Palin Distorts Biden’s Clean Coal Position

ABC News’ Imtiyaz Delawala and Matt Jaffe report:  Gov. Sarah Palin distorted rival vice presidential candidate Sen. Joe Biden’s position on clean coal technology in his hometown of Scranton, Pa., today, inaccurately charging that Biden has said "there’s no such thing as clean coal," while continuing to question Biden’s support for the use of the technology in the United States.

At a rally in Scranton today — at the same location that Biden had campaigned with Sen. Hillary Clinton and President Bill Clinton on Sunday — Palin spoke extensively about clean coal technology, a critical issue in a region searching for new sources of employment in a struggling economy. Clean coal technology refers to removing impurities and carbon dioxide gases from coal to make its mining more environmentally friendly — a still unproven technology that may have the potential to create new jobs as the U.S. seeks to reduce dependence on foreign sources of energy.

"So whether Joe Biden approves it or not, John McCain is going to develop clean coal technology here in America, and we’ll be looking to the good people of Pennsylvania to help us meet that goal," Palin said to strong applause and chants, of "Sarah, Sarah" from the crowd. "Our plan for clean coal is gonna create over 30,000 new jobs where they’re needed most — places like Ohio and West Virginia, and right here in Pennsylvania.”

"Now Joe Biden has said that there’s no such thing as clean coal, when we talk about clean coal technology that’s needed," Palin said, drawing strong boos from the crowd. "He said as a matter of fact that, even if there were clean coal that in an Obama administration it would be fine if say China used it but it wouldn’t be used here at home. Now that’s nonsense."

Palin was referring to comments that Biden made in Maumee, Ohio, in September when the Democratic vice presidential candidate was asked while shaking hands with supporters why he supported clean coal, when wind and solar power are available.

"We’re not supporting clean coal," Biden said. "Guess what? China is building two every week, two dirty coal plants. And it’s polluting the United States, it’s causing people to die … China’s gonna burn 300 years of bad coal unless we figure out how to clean their coal up because it’s gonna ruin your lungs and there’s nothing we can do about it."

"No coal plants here in America!" Biden continued. "Build ‘em, if they’re gonna build ‘em, over there and make ‘em clean because they’re killing ya."

Biden was criticized for the comments given their inconsistency with his past statements on the issue, as well as the stated position of his running mate Sen. Barack Obama in support of clean coal technology. Biden, however, has never said that clean coal technology does not exist. And at the vice presidential debate between Biden and Palin earlier this month, Biden attempted to clarify his position in support of the technology.

“My record for 25 years has supported clean coal technology," Biden said. "A comment made in a rope line was taken out of context. I was talking about exporting that technology to China so when they burn their dirty coal, it won’t be as dirty, it will be clean.”

In St. Clairsville, Ohio, today, Biden again touted his support for clean coal technology.

“This is not rocket-science,” Biden said. “Coal, coal is part of our energy future, man. We have enormous reserves. Right now every single week in China they build a dirty coal plant that pollutes the West Coast of the United States of America and the environment. We can provide clean coal technology, not only exporting that technology and our coal, we can sell that technology, creating jobs to China, to India."

"This should be a win-win for us, if we just get off, off of being so beholden to big oil," Biden added.

User Comments

Palin’s charge is strictly false, but Biden is sort of getting away with that off-the-cuff comment to an environmentalist about “no coal in the U.S.”
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | October 14, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

That is a true statement as printed here in a Biden speech. Biden said no clean coal or any coal. Palin is correct in her statement.

Posted by: Independent Voters | October 14, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

Christopher Buckley, the son of the respected conservative and the founder of the National Review, the late Bill Buckley (may his soul rest in peace) has resigned from National Review after endorsing Obama.
He was quoted as saying
” So, I have been effectively fatwahed (is that how you spell it?) by the conservative movement, and the magazine that my father founded must now distance itself from me. But then, conservatives have always had a bit of trouble with the concept of diversity. The GOP likes to say it’s a big-tent. Looks more like a yurt to me.
While I regret this development, I am not in mourning, for I no longer have any clear idea what, exactly, the modern conservative movement stands for. Eight years of “conservative” government has brought us a doubled national debt, ruinous expansion of entitlement programs, bridges to nowhere, poster boy Jack Abramoff and an ill-premised, ill-waged war conducted by politicians of breathtaking arrogance. As a sideshow, it brought us a truly obscene attempt at federal intervention in the Terry Schiavo case.
So, to paraphrase a real conservative, Ronald Reagan: I haven’t left the Republican Party. It left me.”
This is indeed a historic moment! Republicans with a conscience are dumping the McCain-Palin ticket and voting for Obama-Biden ticket.
Perhaps there is a God, and America has a future after all!

Posted by: Jane Sixpack | October 14, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Did anyone hear Palin on Limbaugh’s radio show today.
“I have nothing to lose” comment.
Oh, really?
I question her mindset with some of the things this woman spews.
No wonder many conservatives are distancing themselves from McCain and Palin.
I strongly predict her political career with the right wing may be history if they don’t win this election.
Remember what happened with Linda Tripp?

Posted by: TRUTH | October 14, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

Barack Obama is going to tax the rich and give to the middle class. Look at the dollar amount that will tax the rich and the look at the dollar amount the middle class will receive.
As of July 2007, the population was about 301,139,947 people. 1% of the population rounds out to about 3,011 will be taxed at about $93,709.
The lower middle class is about 20% of the population and is about 60,228.
Each lower middle class person receives a whooping $1.05.
If the next middle class group of 20% is included, that is about $0.525 per person. Since there is no real definition for the middle class, there is no reason not to include both lower middle class groups.
Therefore, which ever you decide is the middle class you will receive between $0.525 to $ 1.05 per person from the Obama taxing the rich claim. Do not spend it all in one place. If Barack Obama really wants to help the middle class American people, then he would have suggested the following:
1. Put a permanent freeze on all money going to foreign aid.
2. Return troops from the Middle East and give Israel full power to keep the
peace. In additions, give full support to Israel to keep the peace. If the Arabs do not like it, too damn bad for them.
3. No bailout agreement for the banks. No money going to failing banks.
4. Take over all mortgages under $300,000. Hold the mortgages like the
student loans.
5 No added taxes for anyone or business. The amounts collected are too small to realize any true gains. Printing and implementing the new tax laws will cost more than the tax collected.
6. Reduction or elimination of state taxes on private real estate property. If a state does not agree, the state receives no federal aid.
7. 40% pay cut for all state and federal employees. If a state does not agree, the state receives no federal aid.
8. States should collect taxes and give a portion of the tax money to the federal government and not the feds giving money back to the states. That would shrink the federal government and help eliminate federal tax abuse of money.
This is just for starters to cut the budget for Middle America for a return to better living. Obama and McCain talk a great deal and in the final analysis, it is the kind a change that stays the same.
Barack Obama leads McCain in bull throwing by 5%. Americans must wake up to the Washington, D.C. crap slingers. We need INDEPENDENT people in government and less government to control OUR money. We are NOT in need, government is in need. Too many government regulation swallow our money like a giant vacuum cleaner. Government sucks the life out of taxpayers. Barack Obama talks about redistribution of the wealth, it is the government that is too wealthy. Wake Up Americans.

Posted by: Independent Voters | October 14, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Distort, distract, smear more nonsense from the McCain campaign.

Posted by: jt1 | October 14, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

What the F is false about Palin’s charge? Biden said it so go F yourself Marxist idiots!

Posted by: t. hill | October 14, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Surprise, surprise.

Posted by: Rudy | October 14, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Anyone claiming only McCain distorts the truth and lies is too ignorant to see the truth as it is. Barack Obama is no different. Barack Obama hides from the truth and make grandiose statements that are lies and he knows they are lies.

Posted by: Independent Voters | October 14, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Biden can say he was misquoted. “Obama” is also misquoted in his book “dream of my father.” That’s because William Ayers wrote that book. See Jack Cashill’s website. I’m reading AYer’s “A kind and just parent” and it reads just like “Dreams.”

Posted by: colonel reb | October 14, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

But wait…didn’t Biden say that?
I hope that the coverage of this election helps the American people see the mainstream media for what it is. The media has crucified Governor Palin from Day one.
All the negative smears about Governor Palin only makes me like her more.
She is Sarah Barracuda. A high school senior that led her basketball team to a championship title with a stress fracture, who ran state cross country, who hunts and fishes, who runs hills just because it hurts, who took on her own party and battled corruption. She represents the people.
Go Sarah!! We will follow. Lead the way for strong women everywhere.

Posted by: Janice Swanson | October 14, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Independent Voters: ”
1. Put a permanent freeze on all money going to foreign aid.
2. Return troops from the Middle East and give Israel full power to keep the
peace. In additions, give full support to Israel to keep the peace. If the Arabs do not like it, too damn bad for them.”
I love it. In the face of a $700 billion banking failure, you propose freezing the 20-odd billion dollar foreign aid budget. And then in your #2 point, you suggest we give “full support” to Israel to keep the peace – demonstrating your complete ignorance that the largest recipient of foreign aid is Israel to “keep the peace.” So how are you freezing foreign aid while giving full support to Israel? Do you even know what the foreign aid budget is?
And the Republicans wonder why everyone thinks they are incompetent?

Posted by: jhw539 | October 14, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

Independent Voters: “Anyone claiming only McCain distorts the truth and lies is too ignorant to see the truth as it is. Barack Obama is no different. ”
Thanks to video records and the internet, voters are able to pretty easily test your statement. And the reality is McCain is lying far, far more. It is somewhat breathtaking how his campaign is repeating the same lies over and over (like Palin being against the bridge to nowhere).

Posted by: jhw539 | October 14, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

WOMEN OF AMERICA UNITE!
UNITE AGAINST THE SEXIST MEDIA AND BARACK HUSSEIN’S MUGGING OF VICE PRESIDENT, SARAH PALIN!
Women must unite against the liberal media vicious, sexist, cruel, demeaning, contemptuous UN-AMERICAN, unfair, unprofessional, unrelenting and blatantly biased treatment against Vice President Sarah Palin and acting blatantly in favor of Barack Hussein Obama during this unprecedented historic quest for the presidency!
Barack Hussein Obama claims a mightier throne, one forged in liberal ideals of justice and equality and hope, BUT he has benefited mightily from sexism in this campaign, and has remained silent. Obama supporters seem very happy with the sexist way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by Sarah Palin, and many believe that most of the “venom” in the campaign is coming from supporters of Obama.
WOMEN OF AMERICA UNITE IN THIS DEFINING MOMENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. To ensure we can grow up from the male dominated government that has caused many of the problems our country is facing; to a country where men and women are equal partners in governance.
WOMEN OF AMERICA UNITE!
UNITE AGAINST THE SEXIST MEDIA AND BARACK HUSSEIN’S MUGGING OF VICE PRESIDENT, SARAH PALIN!
VOTE FOR MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Manolete | October 14, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

McCain = DISHONORABLE; Palin = SCARY!!!

Posted by: Howard Gallas | October 14, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

I am SO SICK and TIRED of these lies dribbling off the spittled chin of this mistake of nature! Were her parents breeding for stupid or were the people who listen and believe her parent’s?????
WHY does anyone even give this cretin the time of day? The poor genmetic misfit guys I can understand, they sit at home in the dark and do things not allowed in public but really? are there truly that many uneducated people in this country????

Posted by: Grissom | October 14, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

Palin distorts…seems to be a common refrain.

Posted by: Mavericks Gettin' Mavericky | October 14, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Yes Janice, she is a Baracuda. A heartless,lying predator with no sense of her own limitations. Steely. Heartless. Completely devoid of the valuable feminine qualities a woman could bring to the White House, like brains, empathy, communication and collaboration. But I understand how that hill running thing makes it all work for you(?)
Buy hey, if that’s what you want, you’re welcome to it. You people keep shoting yourselves in the foot. And the rest of the world keeps shuddering.

Posted by: Naida | October 14, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

This is the woman who drove up gas prices for the lower 48 by using a windfall profits tax to give (1) states’s residents (Alaska) $1200 per yaer.

Posted by: Sue M Vet for Obama | October 14, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

There is no such thing as clean coal. Geothermal is a far better and effecient alternative.

Posted by: hmn | October 14, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Have you seen how many conservatives have jumped ship in part because of the Palin pick? Very irresponsible on the part of McCain…

Posted by: question | October 14, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Palin is distorted.

Posted by: Vicki | October 14, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

jhw539 – You’ve got to be kidding.
What would be the difference between having Sarah Palin and any hardline right-wing, uneducated hillbilly in the White House? All of the attributes (aside from the physical ones) that have won you people over are characteristics most commonly associated with males. Do tell.

Posted by: Naida | October 14, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Oh, please. Gimme a break. Palin twists and distorts the facts to get the people riled up.
I hope people will have the sense to do their own research for the truth and not just accept what is told to them.
I would not follow that woman anywhere.
I am all for a woman president, but absolutely not Palin. She is unethical, a liar, stupid, and a moose killer.

Posted by: andy | October 14, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Palin is just a loser. The one I feel sorry for in all this is her son Track. To find out during your mom’s political campaign that you are a bastard son then gets shipped off to Iraq. Good old premarital O’ MY GOD sex!

Posted by: kimb54 | October 14, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

PALIN IS A LIAR A CROOK A WOMAN WHO HAS NOTHING TO LOOSE BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SURE AS WELL DOES.SHE WOULD NOT KNOQ THE TRUTH IF IT BITE HER ON THE AQQ.SHE TAKES CRADIT FOR ALL THINGS IN ALASKA BUT ASK THE PEOPLE WHAT SHE HAS DONE BUT PAD HER POCKETS SHE EVEN LIED ABOUT HER 3400SQ,FT HOUSE HER HUBBY DUDE BUILT…HAHAHA THEY BUITL THAT AS STEVEN BUILT HIS CAMP.THIS WOMAN IS A TIME BIMB AND ALL YOU NUMB WOMEN WHO WANT TO VOTE FOR HER IF SHE IS ELECLTED AND GETS US INTO WAR WITH HER STUPID MOUTH LET ME E THE FIRST TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO….SHE HAS NO MORALS WITH ANYTHING INCLUDING FAMILY.SHE SENT HER SON TO THE SERVICE TO GET HIM OFF HER BACK- HER DAUGHTER PG.-HER FUTURE SON IN LAW QUIT SCHOOL DUMB AS THEY COME

Posted by: indp voter | October 14, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Palin is a distortion.

Posted by: Omentum | October 14, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

jhw539:
Foreign aid is in excess of 700 billion dollars. Wake Up to Government Deceptions.
You know nothing about the Middle East and what it is all about. Israel can better do what the US cannot in the Middle East. OIL is the problem and nothing else. You are spending American blood for OIL. You are ignorance to the real issue.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 14, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

HEADLINE: Palin Lies Again
QUESTION: Is this still newsworthy?

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | October 14, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

Wednesday, September 24 on ABC News Blogs:
One more credit to Joe Biden from his own words: There will be NO CLEAN COAL PLANTS in America. Joe Biden proves repeatedly that he and Obama are out of touch with the real world.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 14, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

This is very funny, all of a sudden the republican ticket can find jobs for people, what the hell have they been doing for the past eight years, go to hell McCain/Palin, and that hockey mom can put lipstick on my butt, morons!!!!

Posted by: pete | October 14, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

jhw539 – you may be correct. This election is probably completely irrelevant to the cabal that’s really running the show – Council on Foreign Relations, PNAC, etc.
Dare to scrape the surface.

Posted by: Nancy | October 14, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

You know, it’s Palin who is distorted.

Posted by: newz4i | October 14, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

The squat brick buildings of Grove Parc Plaza, in a dense neighborhood that Barack Obama represented for eight years as a state senator, hold 504 apartments subsidized by the federal government for people who cannot afford to live anywhere else. However, it is not safe to live here. It is an Obama failure of the worse kind. This is an Obama program.
Obama said he can do more than one thing at a time. Obama cannot properly represent voters in his Illinois district. Here is a sample of the representation Obama will give all American voters. This is what happens to Obama projects.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=1

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 14, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Palin couldn’t answer the question, “What publications do you read?”
That’s enough for me! It isn’t exactly a “got-cha” question, and nobody should have to talk circles around it!
McCain disqualified himself when he picked her for VP. I don’t want her ANYWHERE near the presidency!

Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Independent Voter – Is it really Obama’s fault that it’s not safe to live there – that the place has fallen into disrepair? My God, how fantastic that he took the initiative to have this (very necessary) housing built!
It’s called a hand up. An opportunity. Not a lifetime of being taken care of. At some point you turn it over to those to whom it belongs.

Posted by: Nancy | October 14, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

To Independent Voter,
1% of 301,139,947 is not 3011, it is approx 3,000,000. That was on initial glance. I am not sure how you made up these other figures. but perhaps you should go back to school and learn math before people start calling you McCain.

Posted by: Greg | October 14, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

Looks like Alaska is in much better shape under Governor Sarah Palin than Illinois residents are under Senator Barack Obama’s housing plans.
Obama’s housing support:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=1
Palin’s housing support:
http://www.akhousingtrust.org/index.cfm?section=Frequently-Asked-Questions&page=overview
I would much rather live in Alaska. All Obama supporters to Illinois under Obama’s housing programs.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 14, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

I’m reading AYer’s “A kind and just parent” and it reads just like “Dreams.”
Posted by: colonel reb | Oct 14, 2008 10:40:19 PM
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Gee what a coincidence that so many of you right-wingers all happen to be reading a book by William Ayers all at the exact same time and all having the same reaction to it………
Could it be that none of you know a blessed thing about either Williams or Obamas book and that you are simply regurgitating what you have heard somebody else tell you????????
I mean we’ve learned that Sarah Palin reads her Starbucks cups.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 14, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

Wow.. ABC has become quite a joke lately

Posted by: Jr Ewing | October 15, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

Independent Voter – not so fast – you’re talking apples and pineapples.
Subsidized housing in Alaska serves a completely different purpose than it does in Chicago. Think about geography, job opportunities, racism, crime rates, etc. There are many factors here.
Right Wing thinking is always so simplistic.

Posted by: Nancy | October 15, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

Greg:
Your are right, we dropped a decimal point. These figures are from Obama.
Now that you corrected the mistake, it is even LESS money for the Middle Class to receive. It is just another misleading statement from Obama to tax the rich. There are not that many rich.
We thank you for pointing that out to us. The $93,709 tax figure is Obama’s figure not ours.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Then you agree that Barack Obama can not make change.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

– I would much rather live in Alaska. –
And I’m sure a lot of others would prefer you up there as well :)

Posted by: Concerned American | October 15, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

Whenever B. Hussain Obama and Joe Biden get caught with what they said and what they did. They always deflect to say they did not say that and did not do that. This is a clear example for the big mouth Biden. Similarly, B. Hussain Obama said he is not a muslim and he supports Israel, but his mentor Jackson said otherwise while he was overseas. Obama said he is not associated with Alcorn, but he paid it alomst one million dollars to help him elected. Obama said he does not know Wright after the latter said “GD America”, but he has been in his church for 20 years. Obama said the Domestic terrorist Ayer is only lives in the same area, but the latter held a fundraising for Obama to run for the State Senate…… This list can go on and on and never stop!
American, wipe you eyes clean to see Obama clearly and ask who is B. Hussain Obama?

Posted by: ABC-Joe | October 15, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Were McCain not on her ticket, doubtless she would paint him as evil and/or stupid because of his historic opposition to drilling in ANWR. Regardless what Biden said that she has now taken out of context, less than a week ago, Biden told his hometown that Obama’s energy plan included the development of clean coal technology. She and/or her campaign surely knows this, and if not, you would think she could remember back to the VP debate when he set the record straight. Either way, she is a fool for launching such a baseless attack on his home turf.
Even if clean coal technology existed, compared to working on wind turbines or thermal solar generators, working in or near a mine (regardless if it is a strip mine or shaft mine) is dangerous and over time, harmful to miner’s health even if they are able to avoid accidents. My great grandfather was a miner. My grandmother was only 11 when he died of a mining-related lung disease. Given the choice, he would have rather worked in the clean air and sunshine any day.
When all is said and done, it will probably turn out that ‘clean coal’ production in the USA is not economical. Other energy sources promise better, safer jobs than coal ever could. We should develop the technology so we can export it to China, yet even that is not the point. We need clean, affordable, renewable energy and the US jobs that go along with them, not some loose canon instilling fear into people who of all people will experience more change than most as we shift to the new clean energy economy. Leaders need to help them and the whole country make smart choices about which sources to pursue and to what extent, not pander to people who might be hold nostalgic biases in favor of coal because without having sufficiently compared it to renewable energy forms. We need calm, wise and bold leadership. Instead her characterization of Biden’s position is a gross distortion, just as her her characterization of nearly everything she says about Obama is. Let’s face it: Palin is fear/hate mongerer and a bold-faced liar.
Her Orwellian response to the Troopergate findings takes the Alice-in-Wonderland cake (see http://palinhasproblems.blogspot.com/). Such an obvious, unnecessary and self-defeating falsehood is pathological. It is abnormal even for a politician. Instead of inciting violence, fear or hatred, however, this particular falsehood merely demonstrates her gross disregard for the rule of law and the commonweal. She is NOT fit for office and should be cited for contempt of legislature.

Posted by: Qohelet | October 15, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Sarah, please come home to Wasila. You’re embarassing Alaska in the eyes of the entire world.

Posted by: Nanook O. North | October 15, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Well JoeABC, stay tuned because if there is anything to these rumours, surely Mr. McCain will have the kahunas to bring them up at the debate tomorrow. Right?

Posted by: Nancy | October 15, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Nancy:
The Obama sponsored housing project was not maintained properly from the start. This has nothing to do with crime, job opportunities and racism unless you are stating that Obama was criminal in his actions.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Acorn corruption is nothing new. These are liberal Democrats—you think they want to WORK to win??? ha ha ha. Working is not part of their diction. The people will get what they want: Sen BO for four years…higher health care premiums for those of us who pay to support those who don’t…more lousy public school education but the Teachers Union will be fat…bigger govt. (since they do a great job managing what they have ha ha), a socialized state where illegals can live off the system. Raising taxes for anyone in a down economy violates econimics 101.
OBAMA’s “Tax” Plan: Welfare for more liberal democrats who don’t work
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html
Joe Biden claims to be for the little guy, YET, last year he donated $995.00 to charity—WOW, I know people making $30,000 who donated more. Ah the little guy! The Govt. must be Joe’s favorite charity.

Posted by: George Steph of ABC Loves Obama | October 15, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Concerned American:
You pretend to be concerned, but you are not.
I am a natural born American citizen living on a beauty island. Glad you are not here.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Independent Voter – there may not be that many wealthy people in the US, but that top 10% owns 85% of the wealth. It’s the wealth that will be taxed, not the head count.

Posted by: Nancy | October 15, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

“Joe Biden claims to be for the little guy, YET, last year he donated $995.00 to charity—WOW, I know people making $30,000 who donated more. Ah the little guy! The Govt. must be Joe’s favorite charity.”
Did you ever stop to think that maybe Biden donates to charity privately, without being a hypocrite and taking a tax deduction for it?
The Bible says,
“Mat 6:2 Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Mat 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: Mat 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.”
Now, taking into account that the Palins are very upfront about both their Pentecostal Christian faith and the amount of money they “give” to charity (and recieve back again in the form of tax deductions and social and political attaboys)….
… WHO’S talking the talk, and who’s walking the walk?

Posted by: Cynthia Gee | October 15, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

How do you know you’re not a Maverick? You keep saying you are over and over again. There is actually no such thing as clean coal, the emissions still have to be extracted from the coal. They might not end up in the air in the form of gas, but there is still environmentally bad by products. I do agree that if they’re going to invest in it though, we should use it.

Posted by: Original Patriot | October 15, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

Biden has been all over the place on this issue. I have no idea where he stands on it.

Posted by: dlc | October 15, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am

biden the draft dodger with the hair plugs and botox is a total moron.

Posted by: landsend | October 15, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Nancy:
If that were true about the top 10% owning 85% of the wealth, then they must be about broke. Approximately 10 trillion dollars has been lost worldwide. Your figures are ridiculous to say the least.
I am an American living in Asia and you will find the richest people in the world living here in Asia. In addition, I mean to tell you, the most of the richest people in the world. There are people here in Asia that put Bill Gates to shame when it comes to being rich. You only know that which the Obama lying machine tells you.
Obama’s statement of giving more to the poor is more deception that has been said in every modern day presidential election year. The rhetoric is old and it stinks of true lies.
Wake up Nancy, there is a beautiful world around you.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

New polls out tonight!!!
Obama has opened up a 14 pt lead over Loser McCain and Loser Palin.
Obama

Posted by: democratic | October 15, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Yes, I’m fully aware that there are many wealthy people in the world; particulary in the Middle East. (Scary, Huh!)
The figures I was refering to pertain to the US – 10% of the people in the US own 85% of the wealth. Look it up – Wealth/Population Stats. Easy.
Incidentally, the larger world is not quite so fair. Globally, it’s more like 5% own 85%.
And I do know there’s a beautiful world around me. I live in Canada where we do take care of our own, and are happy to do so! ;)

Posted by: Nancy | October 15, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Nancy:
Then you know of the following:
http://www.theadvocates.org/freeman/8903lemi.html

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

Nancy:
Perhaps you should first study at Wharton School and learn about statistics.
The Use — and Misuse — of Statistics: How and Why Numbers Are So Easily Manipulated. All is not as it seems:
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1928

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am

PALIN IS A LIAR!!!!
She lies about everyone’s record, including her own!!!
Wow, big surprise she can drum up an ANGRY MOB of 3,000 YELLING “KILL OBAMA” even in Scranton….
Did you see those angry rednecks in that MOB in Scranton today? They were even calling the reporter communists and traitors!!!
McNasty is going down hard, each day he drops another few points in the polls! In fact Obama is up 14 points today over that OLS SENILE ANGRY FOOL!!!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 15, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

Palin is a distortion

Posted by: Thinking | October 15, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Wednesday, September 24
One more credit to Joe Biden from his own words: There will be NO CLEAN COAL PLANTS in America. Joe Biden proves repeatedly that he and Obama are out of touch with the real world.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

Palin’s distortions are as natural to her as breathing. Her denials are as sophisticated as anything politicians have to offer. It’s bizarre that her skills are so refined in this regard, as one to the manner born, not manor born, but manner. I am sure we will have endless exposure to this quality throughout her political career. It’s fascinating as it comes in a righteous righteous package. It is perhaps all about managing the public image in exchange for power and status. Penetrating insight, yes?

Posted by: Gaias Child | October 15, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

Biden has said in his OWN words ‘NO CLEAN COAL IN AMERICA’.
Are you saying BIDEN is a LIAR?

Posted by: Greg h | October 15, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

I am 70-years-old and I have never heard the anger I hear and read about with this American Presidential election. Perhaps the Democrats should have selected a candidate more like Denzel Washington or Chris Gardener. Both men are known exceptional people that are devout Christians and true to the American way.
The Chris Gardener story is an example of a man wanting and being rewarded through his desire to succeed. The kind of man that would get my vote.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Gardner
The Denzel Washington story is another fine example of a devout Christian being rewarded through his desire to succeed. The kind of man that would get me vote.
http://www.people.com/people/denzel_washington/biography
This is a look into Barack Obama and it is the kind of man that will NOT get my vote.
http://www.theobamafile.com/

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

People are not taxee on their wealth, they are taxed on their income.

Posted by: The Unshrub | October 15, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

Independent Voter,
You can join senile McNasty in the old folks home you old fool!
Sounds like your going down that road yourself thinking Denzel Washington should be president!!

Posted by: Davis | October 15, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Davis:
Just like an Obama supporter. You cannot read a lick. I said more like and not that Denzel should be president.
Then again, Denzel has more executive experience than Barack Obama.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am

“My record for 25 years has supported clean coal technology,” Biden said.
Is this true? Anybody know a location where I could find out?
If its’ true there is no issue. He screwed up once on a rope line. So what

Posted by: pefros | October 15, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

Please put up vidoes of the rallies with Sarah Palin. I am looking everywhere to watch. Love Sarah!! For us in the uncontested states we can’t see her enough.

Posted by: Vivian | October 15, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am

Try the afternoon soap operas Vivian.

Posted by: pefros | October 15, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am

She lies so easily….
The more she talks, the higher Obama goes in the polls. KEEP ON BARKING AND OINKING SARAH P.!!!

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 15, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am

Sarah lies so easily….
The more she talks, the higher OBAMA goes in the polls.

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 15, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am

Wednesday, September 24 on ABC News Blogs – Political Radar
Joe Biden said, “There will be NO CLEAN COAL PLANTS in America”.
No one, unless they suffer from dementia, can forget that they supported clean coal for 25 years. And Obama supporters say they are afraid of Palin. Of course, that is what happens when Biden tells so many lies. Biden cannot remember all the lies he tells.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

ABC News’ Imtiyaz Delawala and Matt Jaffe need to check Wednesday, September 24 on ABC News Blogs – Political Radar
Joe Biden said, “There will be NO CLEAN COAL PLANTS in America”.

Posted by: Independent Voter | October 15, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am

One cannot fault someone for being confused at statement Biden has made as it’s clear he has some sort of mental problem. Like many politicians he’s on both sides of an issue, but it’s hard to come up with a guy that spouts such stupid things like “Stand up Charlie….” to a guy in a wheel chair, or his visits to Home Depot, when no one at any area Home Depot has ever seen him, or his talking politics with regular people in a restaurant that’s been closed for 20 years. The man needs mental medical help.

Posted by: Jack | October 15, 2008, 5:04 am 5:04 am

Palin distorts EVERYTHING – she’s a nutcase!! I want to see more investigation into who built her house and if the taxpayers paid for it!

Posted by: Julie | October 15, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am

Sarah Palin as a fake, lying piece of gutter trash.

Posted by: Dino | October 15, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am

Hey – talking about Obama/Biden distorting the truth, etc etc. What about Palin? Ask her about the economy of Wasilla, left 22 million deficit. Abusing her power as govenor, along with Todd. Biden lies!! – what about Sarah, she reads all newpapers? but can’t name one.
McCain/Palin have skirted the issues and are busy slamming the opponents. Ask Palin what she did with shouts of terrorists, kill him from the audience, absolutely NOTHING. She should have stopped this. This would be the adult thing to do, plus her record is not so clean.
McCain did serve his country and was a prisoner of war, but that was 40 years ago, and how does this help the economy, foreign policy and energy? He keeps going on and on abut Ayers. When he was doing all these bad things, Obama was 8 years old. But what about his past, not so perfect, but don’t mention this.
Ask Palin how she got her house built, her ethics – when she fired officials in Alaska for ethics and look at her own. The govenors’s office is for the state not her nad Todd’s personal use. If in office, is this going to be the same.
STICK TO THE ISSUES- this the important thing, quit slamming others when your own records isn’t so clean.

Posted by: km | October 15, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am

Well JAKE, you can just ask her to clarify her statement at her next precc conference……oh wait…..I’ll have to get back you ya on that one.
At least she wasn’t foung guilty of Ethics Violations right? I mean, she said she the report cleared her. And if Palin says it, it must be true.

Posted by: Palin the Parrot | October 15, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

Sorry, about grammar above.
I have one question left – how would McCain and Cindy know what the middle class need? Obviously, with owning 7 or 8 homes, and Cindy coming from money, how would they know what the middle class and lower income need. They maybe should have spent time living on what a lot of us live on, then maybe they could understand where we are coming from.

Posted by: km | October 15, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am

Shocking development: Mrs Obama decides enough is enough: “My husband was born in Hawaii and adopted by his step father, does that make him unpatriotic; she asks”, on a direct telephone to API.
Posted by africanpress on October 15, 2008
Accusing API of colluding with American internet bloggers in an effort to bring down her husband, Mrs Obama said she decided to call API because of what she termed, API’s help to spread rumours created by American bloggers and other racist media outlets in their efforts to damage a black man’s name, saying she hopes African Media was mature enough to be in the front to give unwavering support to her husband, a man Africans should identify themselves with.
When API told her that our online news media was only relaying what the American Bloggers and other media outlets had discovered through their investigations, Mrs Obama was angered and she came out loud with the following: “African press International is supposed to support Africans and African-American view,” and she went to state that, “it is strange that API has chosen to support the racists against my husband. There is no shame in being adopted by a step father. All dirt has been thrown onto my husband’s face and yet he loves this country. My husband and I know that there is no law that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband’s adoption by His step father. The important thing here is where my husband’s heart is at the moment. I can tell the American people that My husband loves this country and his adoption never changed his love for this country. He was born in Hawaii, yes, and that gives him all the right to be an American citizen even though he was adopted by a foreigner; says Michelle Obama on telefon to API.”
This is a very interesting turn of events. The American man Dr Corsi was recently reported to have been arrested in Kenya because there was fear that he might reveal information on Obama when he wanted to hold a press conference in Nairobi.
The question now is why he was arrested and who ordered his arrest. Was Obama’s hand in this in any way? We will never know the truth but what is clear is that Dr Corsi was seen as a threat while in Kenya.
When API asked Mrs Obama to comment on why Dr Corsi was arrested by the Kenyan government and whether she thought Kenya’s Prime Minister Mr Raila Odinga was involved in Dr Corsi’s arrest, she got irritated and and simply told API not to dig that which will support evil people who are out to stop her husband from getting the presidency.
When asked who she was referring to as the evil people, she stated that she was not going to elaborate much on that but that many conservative white people and even some African Americans were against her husband, but that this group of blacks were simply doing so because of envy.
On Farakhan and his ministry, Mrs Obama told API that it was unfortunate that Mr Farakhan came out the way he did supporting her husband openly before the elections was over. That was not wholehearted support but one that was calculated to convince the American people that my husband will support the growth of muslim faith if he became the president, adding “even if my husband was able to prove that he is not a Muslim, he will not be believed by those who have come out strongly to destroy his chances of being the next President. Do real people expect someone to deny a religion when 80 percent of his relatives are Muslims?; Mrs Obama asked.
Mrs Obama asked API to write a good story about her husband and that will earn API an invitation to the innoguration ceremony when, as she put it , her husband will be installed as the next President of the United States of America next year.
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/#comment-35974

Posted by: KH | October 15, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am

Palin would look good in jackboots and with SS insignia. Maybe an eyepatch to take care of the winking. Instead of the fancy frame, a monocle. Oh, and a black leather coat. She likes to wear black.

Posted by: rogerthomas | October 15, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am

Biden’s position on coal depends on where he is speaking. If it’s for the green’s he is against it – if it is in coal country – he’s an old miner.

Posted by: jamescbuilder | October 15, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

ABC can be charged with being to hard on Palin. Over at FOX, anything Palin says is true, but not tought enough.
At all the other networks, the fact that she can utter a complete sentence is rated as exceeding expectations.
ABC should at least note she got Biden’s name right.

Posted by: ricky | October 15, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

I heard the comments and Joe Biden said exactly what Ms. Palin claimed. ABC is talking for Joe Biden and working for the Obama campaign.

Posted by: ubu1991 | October 15, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

Just why are the Democrats so scared of Governor Palin? All they have is vile abuse and pathetic scrapings of lies and innuendo to attack her and her family. Let’s have the truth, WHY are the Democrats SO scared!
Obama is a “made man”, a pretty boy, willing to say or do anything (or nothing) for his Wall Street backers to save the Democratic ticket.
Biden is a tired old lag, a two time loser, whose opinion of himself far exceeds his modest talents. Driven by anger and envey, he is just a heartbeat away fom the presidency too!

Posted by: Steve | October 15, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

palin is that dumb she is not worth commenting on—–there are hundreds of wind generators going up in northesat pa–and the need to burn coal for electricity is diminishing–however more people are going back to heating homes with coal—this will cut back on the need for imported oil—but we have seen a dramatic rise in cost for coal—it seems there is no way the public can win—–natural resources should have mandatary rules to stop gouging.-when power is decontrolled we will see an instant jump in electric cost—NATURAL RESOURSES NEED TO HAVE CONTROLLS.

Posted by: rodney | October 15, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

ALL THOSE SO ENTHUSED WITH COAL–MAY I ASK WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO WITH IT.
BURN IT WITH MASSIVE POLUTION –BUT FOR WHAT–JUST WHAT FOR.

Posted by: rodney | October 15, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

MCCAIN JUST DONT HAVE A CLUE–AND PALIN HAS TO BE AN ABSOLUTE NUTCASE–EXPOSES HER CHILDREN TO THE HATE SHE SPREADS—–WONDER IF SHE TAKES THEM TO KKK MEETINGS—OR SKINHEAD AREAS—–THIS IS ONE VERY SICK AND DUMB WOMAN—-AND I STILL WANT TO KNOW HOW SHE HAS MILLIONS IN ASSETS ON HER INCOME THAT SHE REPORTS TO IRS.

Posted by: rodney | October 15, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

The Democrats want clean coal, and the translation for it means NO COAL AT ALL.
Since most of them don’t know the use of coal (the majority of them don’t understand what WORK-INDUSTRY PRODUCTION is). They need to learn that the food, and goods the get do not appear by magic, but by the hard work of the other half of America.

Posted by: Roberto Robles | October 15, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Typical Palin….the truth as Sarah sees it even if flies in the face of facts…

Posted by: indy_voter | October 15, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Clean coal is a joke, a piece of rhetoric created to keep the fossil energy crew and shortsighted economic growth fanatics happy for a little while longer. All political cat fights aside, we should look at the practical side of things…
To generate just 50% of the electrical energy used in the United States each year, one billion tons of coal are combusted and around 3 billion tons of carbon dioxide subsequently dumped to the atmosphere. Electrical energy accounts for only about 40% of the energy used in this country – so the gathering of just 20% of our energy produces 3 Gt of CO2. For the record, the production of CO2 is a 100% unavoidable product of coal combustion. No fancy technology can eliminate or reduce the amount produced per joule of energy released…the laws of chemistry prevent that. You burn carbon, you will get carbon dioxide.
3 billion tons of a GAS. I’d like to see the container that can hold that for the rest of time. To think that the total amount of rock quarried in this country each year is only 2 billion tons, or the amount of cement produced yearly worldwide is slightly over 1 billion tons. The best form of carbon sequestration is to leave the carbon in the ground.
Underground rock strata aren’t quite the same as Glad Force-Flex trash bags. They’ve usually got holes all over the place and don’t expand to accommodate our garbage so nicely. Even Nuclear (with its own nasty waste habit as well) would be a better choice than “clean coal”! There is also a whole slew of renewable options to choose from, which we will eventually be completely relegated to using (by laws of physics if not by choice)
Maybe instead of finding exotic, unproven ways to use more and more fossil energy they should be talking about ways to rework the economy so that we don’t need to “grow” and consume more and more stuff every year as the Earth remains the same size. Our obsession with economic growth is the root of all of these problems. We should be aiming for “better” rather than “more”.

Posted by: cjohnson | October 15, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

As Palin told Rush Limbaugh, she has nothing to lose. That means she can lie with impunity. She is a liar, and it’s those kinds of values she has that probably led to her daughter getting pregnant.

Posted by: Brad | October 15, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

There is some confusion here about exactly what ‘clean coal’ means.
Your statement:
“Clean coal technology refers to removing impurities and carbon dioxide gases from coal … ”
Is simply wrong because most of the fuel value in coal is the carbon. But, the question is whether or not ‘clean coal’ means removing the carbon dioxide from the exhaust gases and sequestering it. The Obama campaign’s statement indicate that this is what they mean by ‘clean coal’. However, the coal and electric power industries that coined the term do not define it that way. So, the proper definition of ‘clean coal’ would be any process the eliminates the pollutants in the exhaust gas. The most advanced of these is IGCC which (except for the Radon) is as clean as a natural gas fired plant.
So, whether the McCain camp has distorted the Obama camps position depends on what you mean by ‘clean coal’ and it appears that Obama and McCain do not mean the same thing when they use the term.

Posted by: JRT | October 16, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Hello Everyone,
A few points to consider:
We all have to live and work together. When the democratic process becomes name calling we are all tarnished and can’t learn to work together because we are busy defending our positions rather than learning and using the process to come together and make a unified constructive effort for the good of the nation.
Being disrespectful is not funny, it is what we should be teaching our children not to do. Racism should be a part of our past at this point as should the singular glorification of killing other people as an acceptable course of action.
I was a registered republican and believe in the fundamentals of the less federal government is better. However, we have to look at reality, our civil liberties are taken away, corporations are being protected and citizens are being treated like the prolotariate of the story 1984. We are being made slaves, told to work and shop and endure endless taxes being sent off to wars we don’t want while our roads are eroding, our factories are being left behind, our people are being treated so poorly, but the wealthiest Republican’s try to sooth us into letting them have their way with us. They insult all women with selecting Sarah Palin when there are intelligent women who would better represent a wide cross section of the country. We can’t question Rev. Wright because Sarah brings us Rev. Muthee.
I have come to a serious disappointment with the divide between republican principals and their actions in office.
I also have to question people who claim they are pro-life and readily send people to war to kill each other. I find this unsettling, unchristian and question is Christ had a position on the war what he would say to us, and are we listening to Christ teachings or finding a way to make ourselves righteous (rather than right with God).
I don’t like it when people use God, use Jesus name to create a means to an end for their own gain. This is why Jesus gives us the story of the merchants in the temple. Sadly I see that those who have taken over my party are the merchants and I fear that they have brought to reality the rath of God as they call out for his blessing on their greediness and sins.

Posted by: YourNeighbor | October 16, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

This is just another example of either (1) Palin’s continuing ignorance of isses and people’s stances on those issues, or (2) a premeditated lie. In both cases, it fits Palin’s real character.

Posted by: Alexandr | October 16, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Sarah…soon you’ll be able to say you can see an Obama landslide from wherever you are! By golly! Anyway…no one disputes that Sarah is fairly amusing offbeat entertainment. *wink* If you need a line delivered with snotty sarcasm and raucous incongruity, Sarah is your go-to person. Don’t approach Sarah with questions though…that’s when she falls apart.

Posted by: Ashton J | October 16, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

John McCain what in the world were you thinking? I hate the fact that I even know of her. I say we take her off the endangered list and lock her up in a mental ward.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/10/bush-to-palin-b.html

Posted by: hottopics | October 17, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Manolete—I cannot believe you or anyone in their right mind would even consider voting for a ticket with Sarah Palin on it! Right off she lied about the bridge to knowwhere—has been found to have abused her power as Gov.-now another ethics violation charge against her regarding children’s travel-charged Alaska taxpayers a perdiem allowance for 300 nights she spent at home-took 5 colleges to get a degree in journalism-has difficulty stringing together a complete sentence if not scripted-cannot give a decent interview-check the Rev Muthee article-her cutsy ‘you betcha’, wink, wink language is certainly not someone I would want as one of our leaders-her lack of knowledge on any subject -she is so out of her league it is not even funny, anymore!! I want someone as President and Vice President who we can be proud of, not someone, when in the presence of a foreign dignatarie ask what his childs name is, and who foreign countries are laughing and making fun of!! We need Obama and Biden, along with the people they choose to help them get this country back to where it should be!! I am a white 67 year old woman who recently retired from 35 years in the Banking industry and hope by this Wednesday, Nov. 5, we will see a new President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden as our new leaders. NOT an angry old 72 year old man who cheated on his first wife, and has lied and run one of the dirtiest campaigns I have ever seen! And, NOT Ms Barbie Baracuda!!! who is way out of her league and is so not qualified to lead this great country of ours, if needed.

Posted by: lola | November 2, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

If Palin is soooo christian then why is she going against christian teachings…Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor…
and to judge another leads one straight to hell…
Beware of false witness’…..

Posted by: JP | November 2, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Lets just hope that if Biden sits down with dignitaries he does not have to count, or only has to count to 3 (i think he can handle this). Your messiah stumbles like a fool when not reading off a TelePrompTer (57 states, my muslim faith). Do you really want to talk about ethics abuses when Obama bought his house cheaply because of Tony Rezco.
Palin is as qualified as Obama, who is at the top of your ticket… The top of your ticket has never run anything, has zero executive experience.
You talk about dirty campaigns, your Messiah is taking foreign donations on his website, not checking addresses on credit card transactions (this is unheard of). You have acorn registering cartoon characters to vote. Is this your idea of a clean campaign.
AND YOUR RACE/SEX HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ARGUMENT!!!

Posted by: Huggy | November 3, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Some of these posts are so funny,
“BURN IT WITH MASSIVE POLUTION –BUT FOR WHAT–JUST WHAT FOR.”
You burn coal to create power, so when you hit the light switch, the lights go on. If you want to slap a propeller on your hat and try and power your house that way, feel free… Let us know how you make out.
Palin is “sick and dumb” compared to you being mentally sound and smart… I think that is a positive thing…

Posted by: Huggy | November 3, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

The Clean Coal Technology includes removing impurities and carbon dioxide from coal.The CO2 produced in clean coal is captured and preserved in underground.

Posted by: Eddisionklein | November 11, 2008, 5:22 am 5:22 am

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