Palin Hits Obama on ACORN
In West Chester, Ohio, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin today attacked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for "fuzzing up" his relationship with the controversial group ACORN, which lobbies for low-income Americans and has been under fire for fraudulent voter registrations.
"Sen. Obama won’t tell you the full truth about his tax increases, and now he’s kinda fuzzing up his connections to ACORN," said Palin, of the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now.
"Now, ACORN is under investigation for rampant voter fraud in thirteen states," Palin said, herself "fuzzing up" the difference between fraudulent voter registration forms and voter fraud, which is quite different.
Palin then detailed the myriad connections between Obama and the group. "Now, Obama says that his only involvement with ACORN was when he represented the group as a lawyer," she said. "But what about the training that he provided ACORN in the past and ACORN staff, and his role in past ACORN voter registration efforts? And then, there’s the $200,000 that he got for ACORN when he was on the board of the Woods Fund. And the fact that ACORN endorsed him this year and they’re working pretty hard on his behalf."
She also noted that "a front group for ACORN received over $800,000 from the Obama campaign."
"All of this would be a lot of baggage to drag into the Oval Office," Palin said. "And Americans are entitled to answers before Election Day … John and I are calling on the Obama campaign to release communications it has had with this group and to do so immediately."
She ended her remarks by saying she knew Ohioans wouldn’t "let them turn the Buckeye State into the Acorn State."
UPDATE: Obama spox Tommy Vietor writes: "We have not worked with ACORN at all in the general election. Rather than make these false, desperate attacks, Sen. McCain should release an economic plan that actually helps the middle class instead of giving billions in tax cuts to big corporations."
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Palin should check out the GOP history with ACORN. Looks like she has forgotten a key passage in the Bible she claims to love so much, “let ye without sin, cast the first stone.”
Posted by: Lori | October 17, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Why does the media act as publicists for Sarah Palin when she will not talk to the media and will not answer questions about all the proven lies she has told?
Stop giving this liar free press – she has nothing new to say, and most everything out of her mouth is a LIE.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | October 17, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
SUPREME COURT REJECTS THE GOP BID IN OHIO VOTING FRAUD STATING THE GOP IS TRYING TO STOP VOTING!
Posted by: Angie | October 17, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
But for all of the McCain campaign’s manufactured fury about vote theft (and similar claims from the Republican Party over the years) there is virtually no evidence — anywhere in the country, going back many elections — of people showing up at the polls and voting when they are not entitled to.
Meanwhile, Republicans aren’t saying anything about another more serious voter-registration scandal: the fact that about one-third of eligible voters are not registered. The racial gaps are significant and particularly disturbing. According to a study by Project Vote, a voting-rights group, in 2006, 71 percent of eligible whites were registered, compared with 61 percent of blacks, 54 percent of Latinos and 49 percent of Asian-Americans.
Posted by: Joe | October 17, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Oh here we go again; “Obama will not come clean attack”
When the hell are McCain and Palin going to make the case that there is somethinmg top come clean about? Suppose they tell me what it is that Obama is supposed to confess about?
Posted by: Thinking | October 17, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Palin lost her lawsuit to stop the Beluga whale being out on the endangered species list, seems saving the whales would “hinder the oil companies”, her words.
Posted by: JR | October 17, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Go Palin !!
HE who cheats will go down in defeat.
Thats the American law right?????????
Posted by: Joey | October 17, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Obama is dirty enough to qualify as a politician, it is just that we don’t know anything else about him.
Posted by: tina | October 17, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
When will Palin come clean about Troopergate instead of lying about what is in the report?
Posted by: helloworld | October 17, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Yes – and Acorn needs to read the other passage – Whoever does not work should not eat.
Posted by: jamescbuilder | October 17, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
this woman hasn’t uttered an unfuzzy sentence in the last two months. Oh Sarah, you make me laugh out loud!
Posted by: hang | October 17, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
ACORN is a criminal organization. The AGs of all 50 States should get together and RICO their fraudulent asses.
Go Palin. The Governor intellectually and spiritually towers over her petty, lying enemeies. Go girl! Behind you are millions us, the strong, pretty, conservative women who make or break not just elections, but who make or break this nation. Cross us at your peril, boys. We rule.
Posted by: Nothing but the Truth | October 17, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
PALIN MY FRIEND
You need to come clean on Troopergate! you need to come clean on you and first Dudes asocciation to AIP! Palling around with people in Alaska who hate America! And wont be buried under this damn !you need to come clean about your Corruption Ties to Senator Stevens and getting your 12 million dollar house built for free in Wasillia PIT BULL COME CLEAN DO AN INTERVIEW and Talk about these issuses out there on you!
Posted by: Angie | October 17, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Palin is stupid!
Posted by: Joe | October 17, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Palin is worried about Obama bringing baggage into the White House. What a hypocrite. She has a dog sled full of unanswered questions and a pipeline of right-wing sewage ready to be released on America.
Posted by: doug | October 17, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Jake Trapper
When are you going to do the story on how the Alaskin Residents are starting a petition to get Sara Impeached because of her unethical Abuse of Power?
Posted by: Angie | October 17, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
The Associated Press reported Friday that the New Mexico GOP found 28 people who voted fraudulently in Albuquerque during the June Democratic primary by absentee ballot. One of the ballots was cast from someone named “Duran-Duran”
The GOP’s review was conducted in House District 13 and only included 92 ballots. That means roughly a third of the ballots examined found by the GOP were fraudulent. The New Mexico GOP released 10 of their suspect ballots. They ballots did not contain required identification information such as Social Security numbers, drivers license numbers or birthdates.
“This is a bombshell. We now have undeniable proof that a significant number of fraudulent voters were cast in Democrat primary races for the New Mexico state legislature as a result of ACORN’s voter registration fraud,” said State Representative Justine Fox Young (R.-Albuquerque). “No longer can ACORN argue that their phony voter registration forms don’t translate into fraudulent votes. They do and today we can prove it.”
The Republicans plan to turn over their suspected ballots to election officials Friday.
Posted by: JimAK | October 17, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
I thought it wasn’t voter fraud but voter registration problems that were the ACORN issue. There is quite a difference, but Palin probably wouldn’t understand it, just like McCain in the debate didn’t know the difference between Downs Syndrome and Autism.
Posted by: Half-Baked Alaskan | October 17, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Hey Sarah why don’t you come clean on teen pregnancy, Troopergate, your foreign policy credentials, and your Bridge to Nowhere? I think the American people deserve a full accounting, dont you?
Posted by: Rick | October 17, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
SHE HAS NO SUBSTANCE
like the answers or not or not Obama answers questions everywhere he goes…proven.(even on FOX)
why is Palin & hubby never asked about their full involvement with the Alaskan Independent Party?
PALIN PLEASE JUST ONCE GO ON ANY OF THE TOTALLY UNBIASED SUNDAY SHOWS AND ANSWER INTELLIGENT QUESTIONS.
Posted by: watching | October 17, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Wow, Palin is trying to lecture someone on ethics? Maybe it is just me, but that is a bit of a stretch.
Posted by: make it known | October 17, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Go ahead sue sue sue some more Obama is gong to win by a landslide! Conservative right wingers are stupid!
Posted by: Joe | October 17, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
nobody’s fool,
you are right, jake, you guys just stop talking about what she is saying.
she will not talk to you all.
she just proved in one of your earlier reports she has not got an orginal
thought in her head.
I would have a lot more respect for her
if she would just take herself out of this race saying she has personal business to take care of.
shame on john mccain.she is way over her head. and it is an insult to the majority of intelligent people in this country to keep subjecting us to having to listen to what they tell her to say.
the bill ayers stuff backfired on them, now their game changer once again is to have the pit bull-go out and pitch some bull to us.
once this backfires on them, what will they come up with next.
i still believe john mccain is an honorable man,
i still believe this kind of campaigning is beneath he and his wife.
and i hope they will soon realize they are not helping their cause with this kind of campaigning.
Posted by: world | October 17, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
PALIN IS NOTHING BUT A PARROT!!
Like the “straw man” she doesn’t have a brain! When are the American people and the press going to STAND UP and DEMAND she does a full blown 30 minute press conference??
Do you Republicans like Concerned in OH and Nicholas object to this? If you do why?
I will give you the answer, because there is nothing in that pretty head of hers! All she can do is read speeches WRITTEN FOR HER off a teleprompter!!
This is a travesty! How can somebody so stupid, that has just been convicted of ABUSE of POWER, still be a serious contender in this race???
PRESS CONFERENCE, PRESS CONFERENCE, PRESS CONFERENCE FOR PALIN!!!!
Maverick? I don’t think so, more like Dummy!
Posted by: Davis | October 17, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
More right wing desperation.
I wonder why?
Oh I know….
“Sen. Barack Obama holds leads in four key counties that will go a long way toward determining the eventual winner in four important swing states — Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia — according to a new Politico/Insider Advantage survey.
Obama is poised to expand on recent Democratic gains in three populous suburban counties — Pennsylvania’s Bucks County, Missouri’s St. Louis County and Virginia’s Prince William County. In a fourth, Ohio’s Franklin County, home to Columbus and its suburbs, the survey also found Obama with the lead.”
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Who turned McCain into a sleaze ball with an unhealthy fixation on Obama?
Posted by: Thinking | October 17, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
SUPREME COURT REJECTS THE GOP BID IN OHIO VOTING FRAUD STATING THE GOP IS TRYING TO STOP VOTING!
Posted by: Angie
==========================================
Not the full Supreme Court, Angie. It was the answer to an Emergency Appeal to the Supreme Court Justice who is responsible for handling Emergency Requests from Ohio and several other states. That SINGLE person was Justice John Paul Stevens. But of course, you have been watching the news and you are already aware of that, right? So, you post the truth, right?
Nobama ’08
Lemmings for Obama
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 17, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Palin never talks of real issues. She is always attacking. She has no intelligence to talk what MccAIN AND SHE WILL DO FOR THE COUNTRY. IT IS THEM FIRST AND COUNTRY SECOND.
Posted by: silkwool | October 17, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Why doesn’t she stick to issues instead of constantly attacking. I am so sick of this. I pray they lose because I can’t take this anymore.
VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN 08′
Posted by: LISA | October 17, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Say it again, Sarah, say it again.
Nobama ’08
Lemmings for Obama
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 17, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Palin fuzzed about her abuse of power in Alska which has been hushed up.
Posted by: silkwool | October 17, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Yavo Lem like most right wingers is lying
“The justices in an unsigned opinion Friday blocked a lower court order directing the Ohio Secretary of State — a Democrat — to update the state’s voter registration database after information provided by some newly registered voters did not match up with Social Security and driver registration numbers.”
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Main Stream Media outlets need to do a better job informing the public about the GOP-engineered ACORN controversy.
Minor problems with voter registration cards turned in by ACORN workers are being exploited by the Republicans to distract from their own massive voter suppression efforts AND to try to delegitimize an Obama win.
1. ACORN, the organization, has done nothing wrong. A small number of their employees turned in suspicious REGISTRATION CARDS apparently to avoid the actual work of walking around getting real people to register.
2. ACORN tagged suspicious cards, but the law requires them to be turned in even if they seem suspicious. ACORN cooperated fully with officials looking into any suspicious cards.
3. Voter fraud is different from registration fraud. There is virtually no evidence — anywhere in the country, going back many elections — of people showing up at the polls and voting when they are not entitled to.
4. Sen. Obama has nothing to do with any of this.
Posted by: Lynne Jackier | October 17, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
I feel like vomiting while watching
the parrot from Alaska talking like
a parrot (told what to say).
Does this woman understand the
complex issues we are facing at the
moment!
18 days are too long to passby
quickly and forget seeing her face
and what comes from her mouth.
Posted by: FM | October 17, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Mickey Mouse is not going to vote on election day.
Posted by: Reason | October 17, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Barrack has a history of election tricks.
+Did you know -
He got elected to the State Senate by getting everyone else on the ballot disqualified – even the incumbant. Obama was the only one on the ballot!
+Did you know -
When Obama ran for U.S. Senate Obama was way behind the challenger. Then right before the election appeared the court sealed divorce papers of his opponent (Who released them to the press and who would benefit most from their release?). The mud starts slinging and Obama slimes in as the winner.
Obama has never won an election fairly.
Posted by: Hillary2012 | October 17, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Lets count how many articles or commentaries have spent on this issue. It is just as old as William Ayers and Rev. Wright. America is over saturated with these attacks.
Posted by: LF | October 17, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Hey Sarah, here’s an idea I’m sure you’ll love! Let’s mandate that all “real” Americans receive a mark on either their forehead or hand, that way we can make sure that only the “right” people can vote, buy or sell. Think how easy it would be to instantly know who is or is not “like US!”
We can give some catch name “Mark of the Patriot Act” or “Mark of the Homeland Security” or “Mark of the Best Evangelical Americans Security Tattoo”
Doggone it Sarah, what do you think? Good idea? You betcha!
Posted by: Uncle Sam | October 17, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Palin doesn’t know the difference between registration fraud and voter fraud… anyone really think that Mickey Mouse is going to show up to Vote? If not this has no barring on the outcome of the election… if so I have a bridge in Alaska I would like to sell you.
Posted by: Mike Considine | October 17, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Sarah Palin
Alaska must has too many days in the dark or there is a lot of lead in the drinking water,
Alaska why would you vote for that ding-bat!!
Will you people please see one of her rallies. Palin got to has the most irritating voice and cannot say a complete sentence, Its really hard to stand there and listen to her give the most stupidist speeches.
Bush with his 90”s IQ is a genus in comparison.
UNBELIEVABLE!
Alaska why would you vote FOR THAT ding-bat FOR GOVERNOR –
SHAME ON YOU!
Posted by: ghm | October 17, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
It amazes me how ABC (and other MSM outlets) always post “updates” from the Obama camp but never the McCain camp. I used to think you were hot Jake Tapper, but now I just think you’re one of them.
Posted by: Wendy | October 17, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
KELLIE
Maybe Palin thought she was in alaska talking to her AIP MEMBERS
Posted by: ANGIE | October 17, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
This is the type of change that we can believe in. As opposed to the lie that Obama told regarding the McCain supporters that yelled “kill him”, Here is a real story of violence from a pro-supporter. You can bet if the Messiah loses, there are going to be riots in the streets.
“While the Democrat-leaning media continues to scare undecided voters with bedtime stories about some mythical angry McCain supporter whom nobody has seen, here is a real district attorney’s complaint documenting an unprovoked assault by an enraged Democrat against a McCain volunteer in midtown Manhattan: “Defendant grabbed the sign [informant] was holding, broke the wood stick that was attached to it, and then struck informant in informant’s face thereby causing informant to sustain redness, swelling, and bruising to informant’s face and further causing informant to sustain substantial pain.”
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Does she do anything but whine, insult, and complain? Does she ever offer up any constructive real ideas rather than the gimmicky and mindless “we’ll clean up Washington”? Are the lights on at all?
Posted by: MIguy | October 17, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
I can hardly wait until this election is over and “Miss Alaska” can go back to where she belongs – slinging mud at moose – instead of standing in front of honest American people telling lies. What’s the real truth about Trouper-gate, Sarah? What role does Todd play in your administration? I’m so sick and tired of the dirty Republican politics.
Posted by: jec1950 | October 17, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Jake, ole boy, nothing fuzzy about this…
1. Are you required to register before you cast a ballot? Yes.
2. Has ACORN submitted fraudulent voter registrations? Yes.
3. Has ballots been cast without requiring verifiable identification? Yes.
4. Have fraudulent votes been cast based on ACORN fraudulent registrations? Yes.
5. Was there a house set up in Ohio where people were flown in from other states to cast their ballot? Yes.
6. Did Jake, ABC, or any other major media outlet discover this house? No. A group of college students did the work and discovered it.
For those considering themselves to be nonbias seekers of news (Jake and company), you are sure doing a lousy job.
Posted by: Captain America | October 17, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Keep Fighting McCain/Palin – YOU are best for our country.
obama = WELFARE
McCain = JOBS
VOTE SMART – McCain/Palin
Posted by: Molly | October 17, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Why is it the right always whines because the MSM isn’t like Fox Noise?
Posted by: Uncle Sam | October 17, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Reporter from Greensboro Record:
“I sidled up to one of the Obama supporters and asked why they were there, what they were trying to accomplish.
As he was telling me a large, bearded man in full McCain-Palin campaign regalia got in his face to yell at him.
“Hey, hey,” I said. “I’m trying to interview him. Just a minute, okay?”
The man began to say something about how of course I was interviewing the Obama people when suddenly, from behind us, the sound of a pro-Obama rap song came blaring out of the windows of a dorm building. We all turned our heads to see Obama signs in the windows.
This was met with curses, screams and chants of “U.S.A” by McCain-Palin folks who crowded under the windows trying to drown it out and yell at the person playing the stereo.
It was a moment of levity in an otherwise very tense situation and so I let out a gentle chuckle and shook my head.
“Oh, you think that’s funny?!” the large bearded man said. His face was turning red. “Yeah, that’s real funny…” he said.
And then he kicked the back of my leg, buckling my right knee and sending me sprawling onto the ground.”
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
“Keep Fighting McCain/Palin – YOU are best for our country.
obama = WELFARE
McCain = JOBS
VOTE SMART – McCain/Palin”
Exactly. Vote Obama and vote your self out of a job. Obama’s utopia exists in Detroit Michigan.
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Non degenerate: “What kind of moral degenerate would condemn a Governor for trying to fire a violent, reckless, taser-wielding cop engaged in welfare fraud?”
Let me check reality here… Apparently the ‘moral degenerate’ was an independent investigator, hired by a unanimous vote of a bipartisan committee of the Alaska Legislature.
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Ali Babba
TOO BAD
OBAMA /BIDEN AND DEMOCRATS Enroute TO A LANDSLIDE
McCAIN WHO?
PALIN WHO????????
Posted by: ghm | October 17, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Mack: “Obama’s utopia exists in Detroit Michigan. ”
What? Do you think he was a state senator in Michigan or something now?
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
*** McCain in the debate didn’t know the difference between Downs Syndrome and Autism. ***
1. It is Down Syndrome, not “Downs”
2. Sarah Palin knows about autism as well; her sister has a 13-year old autistic child and so do 2 of her cousins.
Posted by: JimAK | October 17, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Palin: Please go back to Alaska. You cheapen the political debate.
Posted by: michael | October 17, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Go Sarah Go.
The only ones I’ve found who oppose her are inferior types. And God knows they are legion! You know, self-neutered males in cubicles, door-mat dullard wives who haven’t experienced a bona fide sensual impulse in years, 28 year olds living in Mom’s basement, cry-babies who never saw a problem that couldn’t be blamed on George Bush, you know the type, wimps, wussies, the kind of people that make me wonder if Bin Laden wasn’t unto something. Hitler called them “Useless eaters.’ America is teeming with them….those who reflexively ask only “what will Obama do for me,” never what can I do for my country? That latter question has never crossed their TV addled “minds.”
Posted by: Useful Citizen | October 17, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
This women is a nut case. As a republican I will never for this cluless soul. I just feel sorry for her. She is the one that abused the power of the people. When you are loosing thats when you start atacking in a erratic way. Insterad of talking about real issues Palin talks negative. I will not support McCain specally after picking this women. Talk about judgement!!! McCain looks ill if he dies this women will be the next president of the United States, can you imagine??? Sarah Plain being sworn in??? I asked all republicans is this the best we can do? For America. She has become the biggest joke in America.
Posted by: James-Pa | October 17, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Sarah Palin
Alaska must has too many days in the dark or there is a lot of lead in the drinking water,
Posted by: ghm | October 17, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
*** an independent investigator, hired by ***
a liberal Democrat State Senator who is a maxed-out Obama donor.
Posted by: JimAK | October 17, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Palin talking about ethics.
Priceless.
Posted by: gry | October 17, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Latest CBS/NYT poll has Palin with a 32% favorability rating.
The 25% to 35% approval rating area is known as Dubya Country.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
USE YOUR CONSCIENCE PEOPLE WHEN YOU VOTE, NO MORE ABORTIONS, NO MORE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY (ACORN). 100 YEARS FROM NOW, WE’LL ALL BE DEAD, MAKE SURE YOU GET TO THE GOOD PLACE, VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN.
Posted by: Amy | October 17, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
If any party is loaded with experts in voter fraud its the GOP! Good Old Phoneys.
Posted by: Johnny | October 17, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
“The 20+ years of GOP INSANITY MUST BE PUT TO AN END. ”
Yes, lets give more power to Pelosi, Reid, Franks and Dodd.
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
“Latest CBS/NYT poll has Palin with a 32% favorability rating.”
The poll was taken at ACORN headquarters.
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
It’s now official. If Obama manages to steal the election, we will know it’s because of ACORN.
He’s already not legit. And my oh my how that will damage his ego.
Mark it down.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
“a liberal Democrat State Senator who is a maxed-out Obama donor. ”
Steve Branchflower is a state senator?
I thought he was a retired prosecutor agreed to by a bipartisan panel?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
“Yes, lets give more power to Pelosi, Reid, Franks and Dodd.”
Says the man who claimed he voted Democratic all his life.
What a fraud you are Mack.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
check out CNN. There is a list of about 50 lies about Acorn that were disputed. This “woman” is so full of crap and hate that she should never get anywhere near the White House. She spews hate and racism. She should be ashamed of herself. I don’t want my vice president to be anything like this “person”.
Posted by: gina51 | October 17, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
JimAK: “*** an independent investigator, hired by ***
a liberal Democrat State Senator who is a maxed-out Obama donor.”
Do you really think people even listen when you just make stuff up anymore? He was hired by a unanimous vote of a bipartisan committee of the (Republican controlled) Alaskan legislature. This is hard, on the record fact, as is his 28 years as a prosecutor in Anchorage.
Lying has become something of a nervous tick with Republicans now; I’m not sure they even realize when they’re doing it.
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Obama was handed this election on a silver platter with 99.9% help from the media which serves as his squad of cheerleaders.
And he’s still within margin of error in some polls. He just can’t close the deal.
What does this say about Obama? Definitely not much! As in he’s not much in the way of a decent candidate.
So much for that mandate.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
There’s something to be said for Gov. Palin’s consistency, although since this id a public forum, I’ll decline to use such language. Instead of offering anything innovative or new to help the economy or to better the lives of us Americans, Gov. Palin is offering the same old, tired, stale accusations to distract voters from the real issues. She obviously believes that some will fall for her lines hook, line, and sinker!
Posted by: chuck | October 17, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
The only disputed lies about ACORN is Obama’s involvement with them.
As more and more info comes out about Obama’s deep ties to ACORN, he’s had to SCRUB clean his website.
Obama’s hands sure must be getting sore!
:)
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
When did Republicans become the party of whiners? This is silly, it’s the Democrats who usually cry ‘not fair, not fair’. And we’ve got the affirmative action candidates this year: a senior citizen and a special needs candidate.
Time to start over…
Posted by: 1percenter | October 17, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Palin’s own running mate attended ACORN events as featured speaker, and she has the nerve to keep this crap up?
Meanwhile, Palin says that only small town america is ‘real America’ and ‘pro-America’ – spitting on a good deal of the country. how can you be pro-American when you hate half the people in it?
Disgraceful.
Posted by: Goon | October 17, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Message to your Average Joe:
Don’t question “The One” or you will be subjected to Obama’s Goon Squad.
1984 is coming back with a vengeance.
Welcome to Obamanation.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
In all of this discussion about ACORN, what I don’t understand is this: why isn’t anyone bringing up the obvious and, I’m sorry to say, mostly Republican-instigated voter fraud that occurred in 2000, 2004, and 2006? Are we forgetting how Bush “won”, not once, but twice?!? The movie “Uncounted” should be seen by every registered voter before Nov 4th.
Posted by: babzilicious | October 17, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
it makes me laugh to see any Palin supporter saying ‘we dont know enough about Obama’
if it isnt obvious why, you have a problem.
Posted by: Goon | October 17, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Obama team counterpunches:
The General Counsel of the Obama campaign is currently holding a media conference call to “Announce Major Action Taken Today To Address Illegal Conduct and Improprieties in the Sham “Anti-Fraud” Campaign Orchestrated By McCain-Palin and the RNC.” (Josh Marshall)
Posted by: Paige | October 17, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I greatly look forward to bigot Sarah Palin becoming a laughable footnote in history.
Posted by: Frank | October 17, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
By Obama’s own words in a speech in November 2007
“I’ve worked alongside ACORN my entire career.”
LOL.
Guess you wont’ be finding that quote on his website!!
LOL.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Let’s face it: ACORN register voters the GOP would rather exclude, so they are a perfect target in the ongoing effort to stoke paranoia over so-called “widespread voter fraud” (a proven myth). Out of the 13,000 field workers ACORN hired in its drive to register 1.3 million voters, a small fraction submitted inappropriate registration cards. In most cases, ACORN was required by law to submit these incorrect forms, along with the valid forms, to election officials, and in most cases, the incorrect forms had been flagged for officials by ACORN as problematic. But bad registration forms don’t add up to “voter fraud.”
Posted by: Joey | October 17, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
the Rooney family ownes the Pgh. Steelers and are trying to sell them. They are also strong supporters of Obama. It has been reported on the Pgh. TV stations that the family wants the sale to be finalized before the end of the year. Why? Dan Rooney said that if Obama (his man) is elected, he will raise the taxes and take a large hunk of the 1 bllion they expect to receive Obama’s supporters are of afraid of his tax policies. Would Dan Rooney be known as Obama’s athletic supporter???
Posted by: Russ | October 17, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Poor Obama. ACORN just may destroy him.
And gosh, after he’s “fought beside them” his entire career!!
You can’t make this stuff up!!
Karma is sweeeeeet.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
MCCAIN= NO JOBS/ MORE OF YOUR SONS AND DAUGTHERS KILLED IN IRAQ/AFGAN.
AND MORE OF YOU THINKING YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE OF A BIG WIND FALL.
JOE THE PLUMBER NEEDS THE OBAMA PLAN, BUT HE SUPPORTS MCCAIN NOW BECAUSE HE HOPES TO ONE DAY BE A JOHN MCCAIN.
WELL THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN KEEPING POOR FOLKS IN THE REP. PARTY DOWN FOR A LONG TIME, THE SELL FROM THE REPS TO POOR PEOPLE IS
VOTE REPUBLICAN-IN THE HOPE YOU WILL GET RICH ONE DAY. AND IT NEVER COMES.
POOR PEOPLE NEED TO VOTE DEM, BUT THEY VOTE REP. IN THE HOPE THEY WILL BECOME RICH ONE DAY.
SO SAD
Posted by: world | October 17, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Jo – Is this quote by McCain speaking at an ACORN rally on his WEB site?
“You are what makes America Special”
What’s that you said?… Oh..”LOL”
Posted by: Paige | October 17, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
“Says the man who claimed he voted Democratic all his life.
What a fraud you are Mack. ”
I said that I never voted for a Republican, which I haven’t. You have to admit that they’re duds and need to be replaced.
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Palin Power: “The minions holding out their withered, greedy hands in the lower 49 should thank the living God that some one as stellar as Sarah Palin is even running!”
Greedy hands in the lower 49 states? Alaska sucks down $1.84 in federal pork for every $1 they pay in federal taxes (2005 figure). It is undeniably a welfare state that does not pay it’s own way in the Union.
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Joey,
Yeah, then tell your cronies that having a PHOTO ID doesn’t add up to
“voter suppression”
Karma, baby, karma. LOVE IT!!!
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
It tok Lettterman to ask McCain about his relationship with Ayers last night…why hasnt the news media done so?? The media seems consumed by Obamas relationships…what about MCCains??
Posted by: Dee | October 17, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Poor Obama. In an internet age, he just keeps looking worse and worse.
LIES have a way of coming back to haunt you Obama!!
LOVE IT.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Sarah said today that most of America are pro-American. ummm..she needs to sat down and shut up.
We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans. Those who are running our factories and teaching our kids and growing our food and are fighting our wars for us. Those who are protecting us in uniform. Those who are protecting the virtues of freedom.”
Not sure how much this helps Palin out. Is the VP candidate saying that small towns are more authentically American than, say, suburbia or cities?
Posted by: beck | October 17, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Lol, listen to all the right wing whiners, its the sound of desperation. McLame is going down to a well deserved defeat. If you want to talk election fraud, better look in the mirror, the Republican Party wrote the book. We all know you guys dont have a chance on the actual issues.
Posted by: Bill | October 17, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
“the difference between fraudulent voter registration forms and voter fraud, which is quite different.”
You can’t vote illegally until you are registered illegally. is there something ok with illegal registrations?
Posted by: geevill | October 17, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
ACORN could give this election to McCain.
And that’s what is so sweet.
Thanks ACORN! Keep on registering Mickey Mouse!
Lol.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
The justices in an unsigned opinion Friday blocked a lower court order directing the Ohio Secretary of State — a Democrat — to update its voter registration database after information provided by some newly registered voters did not match up with Social Security and driver registration numbers.
Posted by: Javalation | October 17, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Jo: “Don’t question “The One” or you will be subjected to Obama’s Goon Squad.”
Yes, heaven forbid anyone might dare to check your statements versus actual reality and point out that you are either lying or profoundly ignorant.
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
I would love to see Palin release all her communications as governor of Alaska more than anything else. This politician is just so tainted, divisive and nasty. If she is the future of the GOP, God help us.
Posted by: teddymaniac | October 17, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
I agree with Camille Paglia, America’s greatest mind, who says Palin is the most important, authentic real feminist we’ve seen on these shores in decades. (Not the faux feminist who cries “date rape!”, who views abortion as sacrament and who aspires only to be a member of the permanent victim class) but a warm, loving, caring, intelligent, creative, virtuous, giving, gorgeous patriot who possesses indigenous leadership skills and who will tell all those who need to go to hell to go there. I would love to watch Sarah Palin blow the doors off the good ole boys on both sides of the aisle whose chronic corruption, greed and cronyism brought America down.
Posted by: Ali Babba | October 17, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Jake – why do you (the Media) cover what this woman says???
She refuses to answer questions Americans have. She lies about everything, even the very clear findings, of the *troopergate*
investigation.
If she refuses to answer to Media questions, WHY do you guys cover her?
All she does is lie, and incite Neanderthal rage.
Posted by: baz | October 17, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Obama is desperately trying to punish Joe The Plumber for DARING to ask The Messiah a question.
Memo to Obama: It’s not Joe The Plumber who damaged you sweets…..IT’S YOUR “SPREAD THE WEALTH” MARXIST RESPONSE!!!
Poor Obama. He’s stumbling like never before! And pissing off plumbers, contractors and electricians etc. all over the country!!!
:)
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Obama spox Tommy Vietor writes: “We have not worked with ACORN at all in the general election. Rather than make these false, desperate attacks, Senator McCain should release an economic plan that actually helps the middle class instead of giving billions in tax cuts to big corporations.”
-=-
once again, trying to hide behind the economic crisis. Instead of making false accusations about Sen. McCain’s tax cuts for big corporations, Tommy, why don’t you come up with a plan to fight electoral fraud?
Posted by: Obamacrat for McCain | October 17, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
best obama quote so far,
uh…and so appropriate……
“uuhh uh… an ACORN doesn’t fall too far from it’s tree….”
ROASTED
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 17, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
The Los Angeles President of N.O.W. endorsed Palin.
Why? Because when she says she has been fighting her whole adult life to seeing women achieve power, she MEANT it.
Whoa. An honest liberal! Obama, better lock her up and throw away the key!!
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Dee: Letterman also questioned McCain on his buddy Libby. McCain is so two faced, he said that Libby is ok now because he served his time, he paid his dues. McCain and Sarah just don’t get it. I can’t wait for this election to be over.
Posted by: becky | October 17, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Sound like a sorrry desperate McPain.
This election will elect Obama.
It will not select McPain like Dumbya.
Posted by: Crankitup | October 17, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Please Let this Lying big mouth do something as simple as an INTERVIEW without the Russian mafia watching over the person giving the interview.
Palin has the balls to say we need to know more when she won’t even give INTERVIEWS.
This is UNAMERICAN – you can only get away with it in Russia.
Posted by: mike | October 17, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
The bad news is: ACORN is trying to steal this election for Obama
The good news is: If they do, Obama will forever be noted as a Commander In Thief!! And not legitimate.
Whoooo hooooo!!!
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
She obviously doesn’t know that McCain was FOR Acorn before he was against it.
He spoke at thier convention in 2006 and praised them for their efforts.
Pot calling the kettle black???
Posted by: TexGal51 | October 17, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
The Gallup Poll has McCain within two points….
Oh how low the Mighty Obama has fallen.
LOL.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Jo: “The Los Angeles President of N.O.W. endorsed Palin.
Why? ”
Because she is free to endorse as she sees fit, without fear of retribution or intimidation, and out of the hundreds of equivalent level functionaries, at least a few must like Palin.
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Jo:
Obama was handed this election on a silver platter by John McCain’s spectacularly poor decisions to 1) embrace the extreme right wing of the GOP 2) choose the stunningly unqualified Sarah Palin as a running mate, 3) base his campaign on misleading and flat-out-lying personal attacks against Barak Obama, and 4) failing to tell voters why HE should be president. McCain also has had one of the worst-managed campaigns that I have seen in 40 years of voting.
You are correct in saying that some polls are within the margin of error. The Obama campaign and realistic analysts always thought this would not be a close race. However, Obama is well ahead of McCain in electoral college projections and is still gaining ground in traditional Republican areas.
Blaming the media is the oldest trick in the book. Votes see through this whining — another characteristic of John McCain that turns off the independents and the few undecided voters left.
Posted by: Kate | October 17, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
McCain spoke at an imigration rally partly sponsored by ACORN.
Nice try though.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
ummm….why doesn’t the media publish the photos of MCcain giving the keynote address at Acorn’s rally in 2006? Or the photos of Schwarzenegger with Acorn reps from this year…signing legislation sponsored by them…Or Charlie Crist…signing legislation sponsored by them?
Posted by: karen | October 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
First of all I would point out that I am not a basement living 28 year old, nor am I a dullard who hasn’t has a sensual feeling in years. I stayed at home raised 5 children and now hold a job where I am responsible for the finances of multiple operations and earn a substantial, even in NY, salary. I like John McCain but his age bothers when considering someone to handle the stresses of one of the largest nations in the world. Palin on the other hand scares me! She does not represent women on the whole no matter what one person’s opinions are, and her lack of understanding on issues and her decision to make like of this problem is really tragic. If she would admit that she has a lot to learn and try actually learning some basic geography, history and stop telling everyone how Alaska is the center of the universe then maybe…. But I wouldn’t count on any of the above! PS Someone should pull out the video of John McCain at the ACORN event he spoke at a few years ago!! Enough with the acorns!
Posted by: MBRBrown | October 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
I love this Country!
Free Speech! And she is exercising her right to do so! Free Speech is wonderful, even when its WRONG.
Palin is good at fingerpointing, but where is the proof? Kinda like the terrorist thing – you know – the terrorist that was paid by a REAGAN Presidential Medal of Freedom Winner and was “pallin around” with University Deans and staunch Republicans? Lotta substance there, gotta tell ya. (Gov. Palin, any substance to you and your husband pallin around with secessionists? Isn’t a secessionist unAmerican? You were helping them even?- You can say yes, we already know.)
Since I have a differing opinion, I will exercise my right to free speech -
1) It’s voter REGISTRATION fraud claims, not voter fraud. If you are going to attack, at least use the right term.
2) Please stop and look a the law and what really happened. It has been explained several times.
3) The threat to elections is that a fraudulently registerd voter shows up and votes. I would love to see someone at the polls claiming to be Mickey Mouse.
4) History has not shown that “rampant voter fraud” has ever occurred in a US presidential election. In fact, this claim has been a tired old Republican tool for decades in efforts to suppress votes. Claim fraud to prevent votes against them. Basically, cheating voters out of their vote.
5) Case in point, Florida, 2000 – 20,000 voters were “disqualified” by Republican Secretary of State because they had “names similar to convicted felons” but in fact had committed no crime AND just happened to be persons with “ethnic” names, Bush “won” by less than 1000. Thousands of votes went uncounted.
6) During the Attorney General hearings in 2006, “voter caging” was discovered in the 2004 elections by certain Republican operatives. They sent a letter to a voter’s address, if it is returned, then the Republicans challenge anyone who might try to vote from that address. This requires several layers of additional action by the voters that usually isnt done. Sad to say, they target certain poor or minority neighborhoods with this tactic.
7) Palin and McCain are trying to attack the huge lead Obama has and to prepare to either (a) trash Sen. Obama by accusing him of crimes pre-election, (b) (loss)provide an explanation post-election why their campaign has been conducted so poorly or (c) (near loss)make another attempt to get the US Supreme Court to give the Republicans the presidency.
Posted by: RT | October 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
“Memo to Obama: It’s not Joe The Plumber who damaged you sweets…..IT’S YOUR “SPREAD THE WEALTH” MARXIST RESPONSE!!!”
That’s the part that they are trying to sweep under the rug.
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Jo: so this woman is only endorsing and voting for Sarah because she is a woman? That in itself is sad.
I would think the way this economy is, and the war, this woman would be more mature than that… people surprise me everyday.
Posted by: becky | October 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Kate, this election shouldn’t even be close.
The economy is in shambles
Bush is unpopular
The media is 99.9% in the tank for Obama
Obama should be 30 points ahead. He’s not. Why?
Obama is the weakest candidate to ever be nominated by the Democrat party.
He’s not The Messiah. He’s not even close.
He’s a loser. And he’ll lose. Period.
President MCCain – get use to it!
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Jo…sorry to burst your bubble hon…gallup has obama up by 7… 2 is only voters who have voted in past elections.
not that it matters. Go look at all the electoral college maps…
but nice try.
Posted by: karen | October 17, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Sorry, but legal documents are quite confusing with supporting footnotes in the middle. I hope the action taken is clearer in this form.
========================================
Cite as: 555 U. S. ____ (2008) 1
Per Curiam
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
_________________
No. 08A332
_________________
JENNIFER BRUNNER, OHIO SECRETARY OF STATE
v. OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY ET AL.
ON APPLICATION FOR STAY
[October 17, 2008]
PER CURIAM.
On October 9, 2008, the United States District Court for
the Southern District of Ohio entered a temporary restraining
order (TRO) directing Jennifer Brunner, the
Ohio Secretary of State, to update Ohio’s Statewide Voter
Registration Database (SWVRD) to comply with Section
303 of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA), 116
Stat. 1708, 42 U. S. C. §15483(a)(5)(B)(i).* The United
States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit denied the
Secretary’s motion to vacate the TRO. The Secretary has
filed an application to stay the TRO with JUSTICE
STEVENS as Circuit Justice for the Sixth Circuit, and he
has referred the matter to the Court. The Secretary argues
both that the District Court had no jurisdiction to
enter the TRO and that its ruling on the merits was erroneous.
We express no opinion on the question whether
HAVA is being properly implemented. Respondents,
however, are not sufficiently likely to prevail on the question whether Congress has authorized the District Court
to enforce Section 303 in an action brought by a private
litigant to justify the issuance of a TRO. See Gonzaga
Univ. v. Doe, 536 U. S. 273, 283 (2002); Alexander v.
Sandoval, 532 U. S. 275, 286 (2001). We therefore grant
the application for a stay and vacate the TRO.
It is so ordered.
——————
* Title 42 U. S. C. §15483(a)(5)(B)(i) (2000 ed., Supp. V) states, in
relevant part:
“The chief State election official and the official responsible for the
State motor vehicle authority of a State shall enter into an agreement
to match information in the database of the statewide voter registration
system with information in the database of the motor vehicle authority
to the extent required to enable each such official to verify the accuracy
of the information provided on applications for voter registration.”
2 BRUNNER v. OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 17, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
I worked for ACORN before. It was run by a bunch of convicted felons who repeatedly tried to cheat me out of money and pressured me to register more people. They would fire people if they didn’t make quota. Everyone, and I mean, everyone in that organization was rude to me. Many people, to make quota, and get paid, probably faked registration. ACORN also made me wait a month to get paid. Many people also say ACORN is responsible for the current financial crisis because ACORN pressured financial institutions to “grant home mortages to “”minorities”" who previously didn’t qualify financially.” While I’m all for affirmative action, if a person doesn’t qualify for a home loan because of poor credit and no job, they don’t qualify, whether white, red, yellow, black or brown. Acorn is responsible for employee exploitation and abuse, voter fraud, and the sub-prime mortgage crisis.
Posted by: Denise Jameson | October 17, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Jo: “The Gallup Poll has McCain within two points….
Oh how low the Mighty Obama has fallen.”
Absolutely right, which only reaffirms that Obama supporters need to keep working. Lots of phone meetups this weekend across the nation to help out contacting likely voters and discussing the issues. If you’re in a battle ground state, walking door-to-door is a great way to meet your neighbors and help get the discussion on the real issues – any Obama office can get you started, just walk in and ask. And of course there is always just giving a few bucks at the website. A $5 donation goes a long way with the millions of donors supporting Senator Obama.
This election is far from over, despite what any polls say Obama supporters have to keep up the good work – just a few more weeks!
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Palin just needs to go away to a faraway place.
Posted by: Rebecca | October 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Karen, nice try, but that was likely voters.
AND this was before the debate and the recent Joe The Plumber craze.
LOL.
Obama is a loser. Face it. With all the help in the world by the press, he still can’t close the deal.
Al Gore was ahead by double digits.
LOLOL. You can’t make this stuff up!!
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
McCain has an Acorn connection himself! He spoke to gathering a few years ago. So lets follow Palins logic, guilt by association, and investigate McCain.
PS, know wonder we are the worlds laughing stock.
Posted by: John | October 17, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
I happen to think spreading the wealth is a good thing…the only thing Obama is trying to accomplish is returning the tax rate on the upper income level to what it previously was. Warren Buffet agrees….call it “socialism” if you like.
Posted by: karen | October 17, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
With a majority of Americans considering her unqualified to be Vice President, what is Palin’s next move?
Why to become the right wing darling by hitting on their talking points day in and day out.
Perhaps then after Obama wins the election, she won’t be tossed aside, remaining a protected Republican.
Otherwise she likely to face impeachment in Alaska.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Palin will be the next VP
Deal with it and try to go on with your sorry lives.
Once again the liberals blow yet another election handed to them on a silver platter
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
“The Gallup Poll has McCain within two points….
Oh how low the Mighty Obama has fallen.
LOL.’
It’s funny how they’ve gotten quiet on the polls all of the sudden. They were trumpeting the oulier poll that had Obama up by 14. Now the MSM is starting to revert back to; “well he should be much farther ahead, must be racism.”
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Wow, the right is really up in a tizzy watching their candidate slip further and further into the hole in the polls. Just look at all of the desperate right-wing posts here.
Of course, none of them can point out a single bit of actual election fraud in this whole mess (submitting a false registration is not ELECTION fraud, since no one can actually use that registration to vote). Maybe they think that someone will actually show up at the polls and produce a driver’s license for Mickey Mouse? Typical of the right-wingers to be so clueless.
They also conveniently ignore the fact that when ACORN receives a fake registration from someone that they are REQUIRED BY LAW to turn it in, regardless of how ridiculous it looks. In almost every case of a fraudulent registration ACORN included a cover letter or notation to warn the local registration authorities that the registration was suspect.
Posted by: McCain is a liar | October 17, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
palin on achorn
dont this twit realize that it will have nothing to do with actual electon.
and is government funded.it is fake registration but dead cannot vote—including mickey mouse.
send this nit wit back to mooseland.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
By the way Jake,
Conservatives sites are now posting old footage of you emphasizing Mark Foley’s scandal over and over just before an election.
Well, uh, there’s a new scandal with Mahoney and it’s ALSO right close to an election.
Yet NO COVERAGE on their morning or nightly news. WHY???
Oh yeah, Mahoney is a DEMOCRAT
My bad.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
I saw McCain on the news last night giving a speech in honor of ACORN? .. OH WAIT!! Forgot, it is ok for him to hang out with “terrorist friends” (Libby..etc. etc. etc.) and give speeches and give donations for ACORN. FORGOT… IT IS MCCAIN. SORRY! and what about that Sarah… scary… need I say more!
Posted by: becky | October 17, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Jo…”likely voters” are those who have previously voted. Do some more research..and by the way…did ya see what Palin just said?
PALIN: I LOVE VISITING “PRO-AMERICA AREAS OF THIS GREAT NATION”
Elitist and divisional much?
Posted by: karen | October 17, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
karen: “Jo…sorry to burst your bubble hon…gallup has obama up by 7… 2 is only voters who have voted in past elections.”
It’s not about polls, it’s about elections. Right now Jo is a power advocate for motivating Obama supporters to give more money, find a bit more time (a cellphone and a few hours on a Saturday and you can make a difference!), and keep up the intensity needed to close the deal. Forget the internet argument and let Jo rant. Correct the lies, but let their unhinged denial of reality burn bright to remind everyone working for Obama why this election matters.
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
The best thing for Pittbull Palin right now is a muzzle and a shipping crate. Pack ‘er up and Fed Ex that mutt back to Alaska!
Posted by: andrew | October 17, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Go Sarah Go!!!!
You’re making Obama scramble like an egg.
Love it!
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
mccain proved last night that he would be great comedian—-awfull pres but great at getting laughs.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Obama has to scrub his website clean everyday more lies come out about his ties to ACORN.
Obama’s hand surely is getting tired!!
Lol.
Posted by: Jo | October 17, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
“Tommy, why don’t you come up with a plan to fight electoral fraud?
Obamacrat for McCain”
whoa,
what are you trying to do….make this a FAIR race?….
MSM isn’t fair,
NYT’s isn’t fair,
so why would you confront obama to be fair??
if you keep saying stuff like that…..the o people will come after you…go through your private records, and try to crush you….
Haven’t the Joe the Plumber coming out taught you anything??
You can’t challenge obama, if you do….
at a rally, obama will say something like he said today….” how’s business Joe”…..after destroying his reputation……and Joe didn’t approach obama, obama went to him.
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 17, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
*** Steve Branchflower is a state senator?
I thought he was a retired prosecutor agreed to by a bipartisan panel? ***
No. The Legislative Council voted to investigate the issue and handed it off to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Democrat Hollis French is the Chairman and he hired Stephan Branchflower to investigate the firing of Walt Monegan.
Branchflower used to work closely with Monegan and his wife was a police detective under Monegan when he was chief at the Anchorage Police Dept.
Branchflower finished his report and the Leg Council voted to release it – BUT – NOBODY has voted on the content or conclusions. The report has never been approved by anyone and at this minute is solely the work and opinion of Stephan Branchflower, hand picked by Democrat Hollis French.
Posted by: JimAK | October 17, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
To all the poll-watching prognosticators:
The ONLY poll that matters will be taken on November 4, 2008.
Nobama ’08
Lemmings for Obama
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 17, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
So what’s going to be the excuse when Palin’s hand picked crew finds she was unethical?
That they were partisan too?
ROFLMAO!
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
angie
palins multimillion dollar home if given as gift—-would that be considered income and taxable—i think she will be in deep crap till this is all over–i kept tryiong to figure where i heard her voice before–she sounds like the penguin on batman.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
“I gotta beleive she is doing somethign right.”
The ever gullible right winger.
Palin’s approval ratings are now in Dubya country of the low 30′s.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Nothing but the truth: ” I gotta beleive she is doing somethign right.”
She’s not a god, faith shouldn’t be required. Can you cite a couple specific things she has actually done in her career that give you confidence in her ability to serve as Commander in Chief?
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Cool…
Washington Post endorsed Obama yesterday…
Today… LA TIMES.
Posted by: karen | October 17, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
ROFLMAO!
Even the Bush administration doesn’t trust Sarah Palin!
“John McCain got a call from Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was on the phone to Barack Obama, and to his Democratic running mate, Joe Biden. Nobody called Sarah Palin.
The calls this week were part of the Bush administration’s campaign to line up political support for a compromise deal with Iraq that cedes some authority over U.S. forces, and a courtesy to the presidential hopefuls on whose watch the deal would take effect.
“We are keeping them informed about activities and remember, certainly, they have committee assignments and things like that as senators as well,” White House press secretary Dana Perino said Friday. “One of them is going to win the election, and they will be taking over and having to deal with these issues … So it’s only prudent for us to make sure that we get them the information that we think they need.”
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Stay tuned folks, there may be another Obama scandal brewing.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 17, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
“Palin’s approval ratings are now in Dubya country of the low 30′s.”
Wrong.
“The troopergate episode has contributed to some erosion in Palin’s once-stratospheric popularity in Alaska, according to local pollsters. Her in-state approval rating has dropped from a high of about 85 percent to 65 percent”
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
jo
what the hell kind of connection are you talkjing about –and what is the conclusion.it is all about getting people to register and a few are registering many times—BUT STILL CAN ONLY VOTE ONCE—WHAT IS THE POINT.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Yavo Lem…
so please share…what is the lastest “smear”?
Posted by: karen | October 17, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Sarah Six-pack can’t even give as many intervews as Joe the(fake)plumber. Do you think that we will believe that she can be president when she can’t even answer questions that aren’t staged? David Letterman said that he wanted her to come on the show and McCain responded that ‘I’ll see if WE can come’. McCain knows better than let her go on without him there to hold her hand. Can you imagine Babbling Barbie on that stage with Letterman for ten minutes? It would be CAMPAIGN OVER.
Posted by: Loki | October 17, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Nationalized health care
Union supremacy and a boost of cash to the Democratic Party
Massive tax increases and redistributionism
Curtailed free-speech protections
above is what a possible obama admin will bring.
health care: look at Hawaii and what happended
Union strength : whatever business is left here in the U.S. will leave.
Tax increase/redistribution : work for peanuts, like china
suppression of free speech : show defiance, —> look at what’s happening to “Joe the Plumber”
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 17, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
“ROFLMAO!
Even the Bush administration doesn’t trust Sarah Palin!
“John McCain got a call from Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was on the phone to Barack Obama, and to his Democratic running mate, Joe Biden. Nobody called Sarah Palin.”
Well they are 3 sitting Senators.
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
I CANNOT IN MY WILDEST IMIGANIATION SEE SOMEONE AS DUMB AND STUPID AS PALIN RUNNING ANYTHING–AND HER POSITION IN CANADA WILL BE SHORT LIVED.wait untill the irs gets through with her.millions in assets and a meager income–dont take a rocket scientist.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
“Palin’s approval ratings are now in Dubya country of the low 30′s.”
“Wrong.”
CBS/NYT poll taken 4 days ago
32% say they have a favorable view of Palin, 41% say unfavorable
Posted by: Ryan C | October 17, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
alaska that is
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
carpenter.nyc: “look at what’s happening to “Joe the Plumber”
What, exactly, is happening to Joe the Plumber? Other than being called out (accurately) as a liar (he would get a TAX CUT under Obama’s plan)?
Posted by: jhw539 | October 17, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Can you imagine Babbling Barbie on that stage with Letterman for ten minutes
loki
well…rather have someone babbling (FREE WILL)
than someone who ONLY SAIDS WHAT THEIR LEADER WANTS THEM TO SAY…….
question:
How many of you really live here in the U.S.?
cause you sure don’t sound like you appreciate anything this country has ……
You all want to SOCIALIZE everything….have one voice, sing the same song over and over again…..chanting….like drones…such easy pickings for a Socialists to control…..no wonder the one is winning
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 17, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
jhw539 :
not a tax cut….but a one time welfare check
read the small print.
BTW : Joe isn’t running for an office…
Joe is just a voter….one vote.
Like me,
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 17, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
ISN’T SARAH PALIN STILL UNDER A SECOND INVESTIGATION IN ALASKA FOR ETHIC VIOLATION!! GOING ON RIGHT NOW!!!
WHEN IS SARAH GOING TO RELEASE INFORMATION, AND SPEAK TO THE PRESS ABOUT HER HUSBAND, TODD PALIN BELONGING TO THE GROUP: THE ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY, FOR 6 YEARS — THIS IS A POLITICAL PARTY WHICH WANTS ALASKA TO BE A SEPARATE COUNTRY FROM THE USA.
WHEN IS SARAH PALIN GOING TO RELEASE HER TRUE TAX RECORDS, SHOWING THAT SHE GOT TAX PAYERS TO PAY FOR HER SPENDING NIGHT IN HER OWN HOUSE. AND THAT SHE USED TAXPAYER MONEY TO BUY HERSELF A TANNING BED. AND THAT SHE, SARAH PALIN HAS LIED ON HER TAX RETURNS, WHY DID SHE NOT PAY TAXES ON MORE THAN $60,000 of travel reimbursements that she and her family members reportedly billed the state during her 18 months as governor.
SARAH HOW ABOUT YOU RELEASE YOUR REAL TAX RETURNS, BEACSUE In 2007, the Sarah Palin family reported earning a gross income of $166,080 ($107,987.00 of which came from Gov. Palin) and paid taxes totaling $24,738, for a rate of 14.9 percent.
But there is some discrepancy with the latter number. According to an accompanying 2007 personal financial disclosure report, Palin’s “income” as Governor of Alaska was $196,531.50, well above the $107,987.00 that was noted on her W2 form from that same year.
SARAH PALIN HOW ABOUT YOU TELL THE PUBLIC WHY YOU FILED A FALSE TAX RETURN, THAT’S A CRIME YOU KNOW SARAH!
SO SARAH, HOW ABOUT YOU RELEASE INFORMATION ABOUT WHY AS A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL YOU FILED A FALSE TAX RETURN? WHY?
Posted by: francis | October 17, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
It’s a bit rich for Sarah Palin, with her career full of dissembling and abuse of power, to be criticizing Obama for any kind of ethics issue.
Posted by: Pacific moderate | October 17, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
We don’t want socialism. But we don’t want our government controlled by a bunch of dumb buisnessmen who turn this country over to the intrests of big corporations either.
Posted by: Loki | October 17, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
joe the plumber is the best joke yet—the guy dont even have a license–and will never in all his life net over 250 thousand a year–just some more of mccain bs.and palin telling people that they will pay more taxes under obama is an absolute insult to anyone with a mind.
but i guess we all net over 250 grand.
ha ha ha ha and some IDIOTS BELIEVE THE CRAP.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
francis :
and francis…did you know that she bought a tanning bed with her own money??….oh my god…lets keep digging
and and and
what kind of shampoo does she use?
does she REALLY use deodorant???
oh my god…so many questions and so little time….
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 17, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Jake just can’t help himself in covering Sarah.
She is under his skin just like she is under Obama’s.
Posted by: SandyB | October 17, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
“Obama spox Tommy Vietor writes: “We have not worked with ACORN at all in the general election.”
Of course not, Tommy. We all know that. Of course.
The lies from the Obama spox are getting rather thin.
You sent them almost a million to keep up the voter fraud on their own. The FBI is doing their slow methodical but relentless investigation. If you sent them money and you knew about the fraud, you and your boss are going down under a RICO prosecution.
So the whole plan turned out to be a way to get Joe Biden into the White House? That will be a shocker at the Obama residence.
Posted by: len | October 17, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
This is not even debatable — why is ACORN still in the game. Once they find out ACORN is involved in voter fraud they should be out of the mix and in jail — end of discussion.
Posted by: Steve | October 17, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
LEN
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT ACORN DOES,REALLY WE ALL WANT TO KNOW.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
When people start showing up at voting booths with picture IDs claiming to be Mickey Mouse then we have to start worrying about ACORN.
Posted by: Loki | October 17, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
“I’m glad the report found ne innocent of anything illegal or unethical”
“I said thanks, but no thanks”
TALK ABOUT “FUZZING IT UP”!
Posted by: Calling the Kettle Black | October 17, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
rodney :
yeah and Joe is a REPUBLICAN…and and yeah he wants to keep more of the money he earned from working and uh not give it to the govt……for more welfare handouts….
uh yeah Joe the Plumber is really out to get obama….yeah….he’s a real controversy….
while obama strokes ACORN with 800000.00 during the primary, and with AYERS gave 200000.00 to ACORN from the annenberg challenge “education” program…..
———-> teach fraud…it works!!
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 17, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Warren Buffet says go and buy stocks. He doesn’t say spread the wealth.
Posted by: geevill | October 17, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
HEY NY
DO YOU REALLY THINK JOE THE BSER ACTUALLY PAYS INCOME TAXES.HE IS MCCAINS FUNNIEST JOKE YET.oh by the way how much over 250 grand a year do you net—-the word is NET.–USE YOUR MIND A LITTLE
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
SandyB :
he’s not the only one….
who would of thought a woman, with her OWN voice can top …the one…
FINALLY CHALLENGING THE ONE…
if obama answered truthfully ONCE, ACORN would have been dropped…..instead the nut is getting bigger and bigger…
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 17, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
LOKI
IT SURE IS TOUGH TRYING TO GET THE TRUTH TO THESE GUYS.-they have very little idea what they are talking about.
wish i could NET over 250 grand a year.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
carpenter
tell us exactly what acorn does—something palin cannot do.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
some of you on here sure are mccain palin material–lots of noise BUT DONT HAVE A CLUE..
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
rodney :
the point is Joe is a voter, who had a question….and whether the question was for himself or others in similar situation….this question got obama out of that fake skin he wears called democracy…..and showed obama as a real wealth REDISTRIBUTION SOCIALIST….and if you vote for him cause you think you’re gonna get a txa cut—watch out,
1. tax cut is really a rebate check….very similar to what alot of people get 1st friday of the month–WELFARE.
2. Clinton promised promised promised a real tax cut when he ran…..as soon as he got into office….he raised it across the board….and no one could stop him
3.( and this is the worst part) between an obama admin with pelosi and reid flanking him on either side, whatever you have is gone….businesses will not be able to AFFORD to run here….they will leave, and last but not least
4. a recession is predicted no matter what, but a DEPRESSION is predicted with an obama admin, more people will be out of jobs and welfare checks will be supporting the whole country…….
and a division between the HAVES and Have nots will be more father apart than ever….
5. which means the death of the middle class…..just as the way obama’s Rev. Wright for 20 years wanted and is fighting for….abolishing the Middle Class…!!
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | October 17, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
i want obama to give sarah palin the papers she is asking for, give them something, they want to go over papers.
give her the papers.
give her some papers to go over and give her enough that will keep her going over them for the next four week.
Posted by: world | October 17, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
A tax cut is welfare? Then it’s time to take all the richest Americans off of welfare.
Posted by: Loki | October 17, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Webb was right on the money about Plain.
That’s why Virginia will vote Democrat for the first time in 44 years!
McCain sold his integtiry to draw the religious extremists. Even HE couln’t say she is qualified. That’s pretty sad!
Enjoy the 15 minutes of your LOSER candidate.
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP | October 17, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
CARPENTER NOW YOU ARE ABOUT REV WRIGHT—WOW
AND I ASKED HOW MUCH YOU NET OVER 250 GRAND A YEAR–YOU SEE I AM IN BUSINESS AND KNOW WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
ANF MCCAIN PANDERING TO THE RICH WITH THE TRICKLE DOWN CRAP IS JUST THAT CRAP. PEOPLE IN MFG BUSINESS WILL NEVER INVEST HERE UNLESS SOMETHING IS DONE ABOUT IMPORTS, PEOPLE LIKE MCCAIN WILL BE THE ONES TO PAY MORE TAXES,SOMETHING THAT ENRAGES MCCAIN.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
No a tax cut is not welfare. Giving “refundable tax credits” to people who don’t pay any taxes is welfare.
—————–
And so is giving $5000 health care credits to people who don’t pay taxes. But you don’t have a problem with that because the Parrot said it was ok.
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP | October 17, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Is anyone even listening to Palin anymore? I mean really?
MediaMatters has a report out today that states CNN misquoted (lied) when reporting about ACORN 54 times in the last 3 days…sounds like little Repug Wolfe Blitzer is at work again…after getting Jack Cafferty canned for the duration of the election for telling the truth about Palin.
Posted by: Deanna | October 17, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
WHY DID PALIN NOT GO TO PHILA. WHEN SPOUTING THE TERRORIST CRAP.
THIS TWIT IS GOING TO GET HER CHILDREN HURT WITH THE HATE CRAP.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?
We wont.
Posted by: PulSamsara | October 17, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Good point Deanna!
Posted by: Rachel in NC | October 17, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
I CANNOT IN MY WILDEST IMAGINATION UNDERSTAND HOW PALIN GOT TO BE GOVERNER OF ALASKA–SHE HAS LITTLE IN EDUCATION AND TALKS LIKE A TWIT—THE ESKIMOS NUST HAVE BEEN OUT HUNTING ON ELECTON DAY.
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
The lemming metaphor fits the Republicans MUCH better. They want us to just vote for another dumb buisnessman good ol’ boy like they always do. There is nothing unique or original about it.
Posted by: Loki | October 17, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
MCCAIN IS PISSED–OBAMA IS GOING TO MAKE HIM PAY MORE TAXES—-GO OBAMA—YOU HAVE TO LOVE IT
GOODBYE
Posted by: rodney | October 17, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Is anybody listening to this silly lady anymore? If I were her, I’d be worried about keeping my day job as governor!
Posted by: Ron Sampson | October 17, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Wish MC/Palin hadn’t spent so much time crying wolf about Ayers … ACORN, and pushing over $1million their direction is the story I would like to hear from Obama.
Unfortunately, after burning their credibility on Ayers (pronounced errors), harder to get people to pay attention to ACORN.
Wonder if the folks they registered 73 times will get to vote that many times?
Posted by: OneObservation | October 17, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Don’t blame the Eskimos for Palin’s election as governor. The racists probably asked them “How many bubbles in a Klondike Bar” to keep them from voting.
Posted by: John D Norvell | October 17, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Just got back from Europe.
The papers in Europe think America is crazy — letting the speculators destroy the economy and nominating a Miss-Alaska as VP.
Some even suggested we should petetion Queen Elizabeth to let us rejoin the British Empire since we appear incapable of governing ourselves properly.
Hard to argue with them if we vote for the same people who got us into this mess – AGAIN.
Having the McCain say “I’ll fix the county if you elect me President” is like The Godfather saying, “I fix the crime problem if you’ll make me police commissioner”
Seriously, I can’t believe that almost half the country is falling for the same routine and meaningless falg-waving rhetoric yet a third time.
Pathetic.
Posted by: Gulliver | October 17, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
ACORN did not register anyone twice. Employees tried to register fake personalities like Mickey Mouse and Babe Ruth to meet their quotas. No one can prove that any of these fake personallities ever actually voted. There is NO voter fraud therefore, as Palin said, and knew she was lying when she said it.
Posted by: Loki | October 17, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
“Just got back from Europe”
Go back.
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Loki:
Did you not hear the two witnesses who testified on Monday in Ohio?
These two witnesses were both registered by ACORN multiple times!!
One of them was even bribed with money and cigarettes to register.
Posted by: SandyB | October 17, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
“Workers at Acorn are now receiving death threats and offices are being vandalized. These people have merely been accused of something in the middle of a political campaign by the guy LOSING. These people have not been tried nor convicted of any crime and yet the right has already sentenced them, to death no less. ”
They’re the real victims. They were just minding their own business trying to commit voter fraud for their Messiah.
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
“Stay tuned folks, big scandal brewing in the Republican camp. Seems the first dude was on the take, if you want to erect a cell phone tower you had to pay him first. ”
I’ll see your cell tower and I’ll raise you one unrepentant domestic terrorist.
Posted by: Mack | October 17, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
There is no sleazier connection than McCain’s to Karl Rove. After Rove robs him of his election chances in 2000 with pure slander McCain goes hat in hand to this slime-ball for help to win at all costs. McCains connections to Bush, Cheney and Rove bother Americans mush more than professor Ayers.
Posted by: Loki | October 17, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Mack,
So you think filling out a voter registration form with the name Mickey Mouse is deserving of the death penalty?
Really?
And by the way, do you really think Mickey Mouse would show up to actually vote????
Posted by: Hmmm | October 17, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Sarah forgot that during the time of our country’s largest financial crisis the Dems wanted to give ACORN 20% should the american taxpayer recover anything out of the 700B.
ACORN is totally responsible for the fraudulent registrations being filed by their employees. How is ACORN not responsible for their employees who they hire, train and supervise. ACORN is nothing more than an organized criminal enterprise.
Posted by: ubu1991 | October 17, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
On one of the late news programs last night, I happened to see a short piece on Senator Obama, who was at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City for some event, trying to mock Gov. Sarah Palin. He said, “I understand that if you look down the street from in front of the Waldorf-Astoria, you can see the Russian Tea Room”. However, all he did was once again demonstrate his ignorance.
The Waldorf-Astoria is on Park Ave. between East 48th and 49th Streets, while the Russian Tea Room is on West 57th Street between 7th and 8th Avenues. There are at least 8 long city (avenue) blocks of tall buildings between the two looking uptown and just about 4 (street) blocks looking west. And it is a fairly long walk between the two. But in any case, there is no way the one can be seen from the other, which only serves to once again demonstrate Sen. Obama’s penchant for putting his foot in his mouth.
I know whereof I speak, since for a number of years I worked for IBM at 590 Madison Avenue on the corner of W. 57th Street, and it was because of all the tall buildings on all sides that it was always referred to as “The Grand Canyon”. Many a day after work I would walk across 57th to Park Ave., past the Russian Tea Room, and then down Park to Grand Central Terminal to catch the train home. Now THAT was a very long walk, and I recommend that Sen. Obama consider walking the same route before he makes the remark again, as it is quite untrue.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 17, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
RE Mack 1017 1645
Very few undecided voters are likely to be influenced by the Ayers scenario. I think a lot more would have concerns about the ACORN situation (if they understood it), however, after running around crying wolf on Ayers, ACORN is being discredited as another “cry of wolf”.
Mack, I think you missed the point of th post.
Posted by: OneObservation | October 17, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Didn’t Palin do some fuzzy things with her tax returns, like not including the per diems she received?
And wasn’t McCain friendly with ACORN when he was pushing for immigration reform?
Posted by: cincyr | October 17, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Palin can not talk about Obama when she is the queen of corruption she she and some of the republicans are all about smear and fear,when was the last time they ran an ad that wasn’t full of lies?she and McCain keep talking about Ayers but Ayers also worked with the repulicans on the same board as Obama,also McCain attended a meeting in which ACORN attened and gave them high praise,he speaks from both sides of his mouth.They are trying to grasp on to anything but the truth and that is how to help this economy,why are they having such a hard time realizing that people are hurting.Ayers has evidently been forgive by AMERICA for what he did way back when and Obama was a child so it is time for the republicans to get over it and get down to the brass tacks.And if they can’t forget anything I know they haven’t forgotten Cindy and John McCain’s ties to the Keating Five.
Posted by: damehen | October 17, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
ACCORN is getting a bad rap. To completely dismiss the good work they’ve done by misdeeds of a few. Most people criticizing ACCORN don’t know anything about it. There’s always deceit no matter what or where you are. It wasn’t about buying votes, it’s about people making money while not doing a job they were hired to do.ACCORN even contacted the proper authorities to report fraud form their own employees. Palin is just hoping people jump on her hate wagon instead of investigating the truth. The only fuzzy truth I see is coming out of her mouth.
Posted by: Miki | October 17, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Now I understand that when Palin said she committed no violations of law or ethical conduct as Governor and asked us to read the report of the investigation, that she was asking us to read the “fuzzed ip” report of the Legislature, not the one they issued in English. The one in English said she broke the law. It cited it by number of the ection on ethical conduct she broke. But maybe the one where the fuzzed it up” did not say that.
Posted by: ricky | October 17, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
We should be required to show a drivers license, state id or passport to register and to vote. If we had to do that all of these issues would be irrelevant. We have to do all of these things to get on an airplane or to cash a check. This is a small inconvenience to insure that all voters are legally entitled to vote in the area in which they vote. ACORN is at the least sloppy and racking up huge costs for the states that have to deal with the crappy registrations that they submit. Some of their workers are felons…convicted of identity theft. At worst they are complicit in actual voter fraud…we’ve seen evidence of this in Ohio and NM during the primary.
More and more people are convinced that our election system is hopelessly flawed and we will not know who the true winner is. It doesn’t make voters feel better when we see that 30,000 convicted felons are on the voter rolls in Florida and 5,000 of them voter illegally in the last election. It doesn’t make voters feel better when we ssee the Secretary of State in Ohio admit that there are potentially 200,000 registrations that cannot be verified and that she has no intention of verifying them.
Posted by: Kathy Corey | October 17, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
carpenter..keep your predictions to yourself. You obviously are in denial as to how our country got into this mess we are in. And McCain will continue with the same stupid policies as Bush. With an incompetent VP. McCain won’t even let her talk to the media after the debates. She’s nothing but a pawn used to spread McCains lies via rallies.
Posted by: Joe Railroader | October 17, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
NOTE to Residents of the Lower 48.
When refering to wrong doing, like the laws the Alaska Legislature said Sarah Palin broke in dealing with her chief law enforcement officer, please use the proper verb as supplied by Sarah Palin in today’s speech. Say simply, Governor Palin “fuzzed up.” I have noticed she fuzzes up a lot. She is a big “fuzz up.”
Posted by: ricky | October 17, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Kathy, I have to show my drivers license when I vote. You have to have a valid drivers license or ID when voting in OH.
Posted by: Bea | October 17, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Please do not refer to Gov. Palin referring to parts of our country as “pro-American” as implying their are parts that are anti-American. In our part of the country she made a gaffe.
In the news media she misspoke. In her terminology she “fuzzed up.” It is a pretty big “fuzz up.” At least she did not “fuzz up” worse and name which parts are not pro-American.
Posted by: ricky | October 17, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS WOMAN TO BE YOUR PRESIDENT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO JOHN MCCAIN? GOD FORBID IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO ANYONE,,,HOWEVER THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.
SARAH PALIN IS A JOKE…PRETTY..BUT A JOKE AND WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO SAY FOR MCCAIN….AN OUTREACH FOR ANYONE TO TRY AND BEAT BARACK OBAMA!
WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE…A FEMALE WHO IS OBVIOUSLY PUSHED BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO WIN..YET..A BLACK MAN WHO HAS MORE! INTELLIGENCE AND SKIN COLOR..AN AWESOME MAN WHO MUST FIGHT THE FACT THAT HE IS ALL OF THE ABOVE!
AND SO WE MUST FIGHT FOR BARACK OBAMA..IS HE MEASURING DRAPES? DO NOT THINK SO BECAUSE BARACK TAKES NOTHING FOR GRANTED! IS HE MEASURING HIMSELF? YES…HE IS PROBABLY WAITING FOR YOU OR I TO GIVE HIM ENTRY OR CREDIT…INTO HIS LIFESTYLE.. HERE WE ARE AGAIN WAITING FOR THE BLACK MAN TO TAKE OVER…HE WILL..I WILL BET MY WHITE SELF ON IT! GOD BLESS YOU BARACK OBAMA AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STES OF AMERICA!
Posted by: SUE DUVALL SMITH | October 17, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Ricky…that was fuzzing funny…
Posted by: Miki | October 17, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
So the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers has endorsed McCain.
He thrives on anger and chaos and therefore his choice was clear.
Posted by: Endorsement | October 17, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
John McCain Endorsements:
US Council for World Freedom
G. Gordon Liddy
Timmons
Posted by: Jwench | October 17, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Anyone hear about the outrage of the mandatory flu shots for pre-schoolers in NJ? But, but… I thought more of the nation wants more government?? They’re crying for it every day… give us Obama and national healthcare and tax cuts and and and…!… but DO NOT tell us we have to give our kids flu shots please? You guys are asking for it……………….!…….. that is IF he gets anything done that he promised, which he won’t because he’s too indecisive and weak. Even the stronger ones don’t live up to their promises. So at least we have no worries there….
Posted by: msa123 | October 17, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
“UPDATE: Obama spox Tommy Vietor writes: “We have not worked with ACORN at all in the general election.”
Like HELL they haven’t?
What about that $820,000 bonus they paid to Acorn’s associate group?
It is remarkable how effective that Koolaid is!!!
You’ve even got Clinton swallowing the swill!
Posted by: egads! | October 17, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
I think Obama should force everyone to give a certain percentage to charity. That would solve alot of problems.
I don’t get something. I don’t see Obama spreading his wealth around. Does anyone know what he’s given to charity over the last 5 years?
Posted by: msa123 | October 17, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Forget Sarah Palin, John McCain, and Republicans. Please rationally evaluate this whole situation. Attempt to go beyond party lines.
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From October 6 through October 15, CNN ran at least 54 segments mentioning allegations that the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now [ACORN] submitted allegedly false or duplicate voter registration applications this year in a number of states, according to a Media Matters for America search* of the Nexis database. But only one of those segments mentioned both of the following two relevant points: 1) that the statutes of most of those states require third parties registering prospective voters to submit all registration forms they receive; and 2) that actual instances of illegal votes being cast as a result of registration fraud are extremely rare. Indeed, in an October 10 press release, ACORN noted that “in almost every state we are required to turn in ALL completed applications, even the ones we know to be problematic.” And in a 2007 report titled “The Truth About Voter Fraud,” New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice stated, “[W]e are aware of no recent substantiated case in which registration fraud has resulted in fraudulent votes being cast.” Of the 54 CNN segments addressing the allegations against ACORN, two mentioned only the former of those two points, while one mentioned just the latter.
While the media have devoted great attention to charges of voter fraud, in past election cycles such charges have largely proven baseless. According to the Brennan Center:
There have been several documented and widely publicized instances in which registration forms have been fraudulently completed and submitted. But it is extraordinarily difficult to find reported cases in which individuals have submitted registration forms in someone else’s name in order to impersonate them at the polls. Furthermore, most reports of registration fraud do not actually claim that the fraud happens so that ineligible people can vote at the polls. Indeed, we are aware of no recent substantiated case in which registration fraud has resulted in fraudulent votes being cast.
Additionally, an October 16 ABCNews.com article reported that Sen. John McCain’s “voter fraud worries — about ACORN or anyone else — are unsupported by the facts, said experts on election fraud, who recall similar concerns being raised in several previous elections, despite a near-total absence of cases.” The article quoted David Becker, “a lawyer for the Bush administration until 2005, in the Justice Department’s voting rights section, which was part of the administration’s aggressive anti-vote-fraud effort,” who stated, “There’s no evidence that any of these invalid registrations lead to any invalid votes” and added: “The Justice Department really made prosecution of voter fraud of this sort a big priority in the first half of this decade, and they really didn’t come up with anything.”
Indeed, the U.S. Department of Justice crime statistics cast doubt on the existence of widespread voter fraud. According to a report by the Justice Department’s Criminal Division of prosecutions between October 2002 and September 2005, the Justice Department charged 95 people with “election fraud” and convicted 55. Among those, however, just 17 individuals were convicted for casting fraudulent ballots; cases against three other individuals were pending at the time of the report. Further, on April 12, 2007, The New York Times reported, “Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews.”
During a report on the October 12 edition of CNN Sunday Morning — the only CNN report to mention both of the above points — anchor Betty Nguyen aired a clip from ACORN chief organizer Bertha Lewis’s October 10 interview on CNN’s Larry King Live, in which Lewis said: “First of all, in every county when you register voters, you’ve got to turn in every single card no matter how weird or wacko it may appear, that’s the law.” Later in the segment, Nguyen asked Demos.org’s Steve Carbo, “I mean, are these numbers inflated here or is ACORN truly involved in voter fraud?” Carbo replied, “I think we need to be clear about what voter fraud is. The record shows that it’s exceedingly rare for individuals to show up on the polls on Election Day and pretend to be other people, to vote twice, to vote illegally.”
Three segments mentioned one, but not both points. Two segments mentioned that many states require ACORN to submit all registration forms it received. On the October 10 edition of Larry King Live, Lewis said, “First of all, in every county when you register voters, you’ve got to turn in every single card no matter how weird or wacko it may appear, that’s the law.” In a later segment on the same broadcast, after radio host Stephanie Miller called the allegations against ACORN “a non-story,” King asked her, “Because you have to bring whatever they fill out?” Miller replied, “Yes.”
One additional segment suggested that voter fraud is extremely rare. During a roundtable on the October 11 edition of CNN Newsroom, civil rights attorney Avery Friedman said, “Now in reality, when either Mr. or Ms. Turkey show up at the voting booth, today there is a built-in protective mechanism. So, although it sounds like a big deal, and I think some of the partisans are trying to paint it that, for those people who get minimum wage, who have quotas, those people are in trouble for doing these kinds of things. But the bottom line is that the system will work. I don’t think Jive Turkey will be voting this November.”
Posted by: Sharonklim | October 17, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Who knows???
We know a lot about Sen. McCain, we know quite a bit about Gov. Palin, and we know a lot about Sen Biden.
What do we know about Sen. Obama, who not long ago advised against “buying a pig in a poke”?
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Occidental College records – Not released
Columbia College records – Not released
Columbia Thesis paper – “not available”
Harvard College records – Not released
Selective Service Registration – Not released
Medical records – Not released
Illinois State Senate records – “not available”
Illinois State Senate schedule – “not available”
Law practice client list – Not released
Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – Not released
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth – Not released
Harvard Law Review articles published – None
University of Chicago scholarly articles – None
Even his yearbook from Harvard is unavailable. No copies to be found anywhere while every other year is available.
(Original Comment, below broken line, by Shiloh | 2008-10-17)
Posted by: Yavo Lem | October 17, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
*** ACORN did not register anyone twice ***
“the Cuyahoga County Elections Board has 73 cards with [Freddie] Johnson’s name on them.”
Posted by: JimAK | October 17, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Palin was not casting stones, she was stating the facts. iT’S up to you to punish the Obama campaign.
By the way, Domestic Violence must be approved where you are from, But in Alaska, where this trooper fazed his ten year old son, i’d say that was domestic Violence and he needed to losked up and have his guns and other weapons taken away from him. Now the Palin family is definitely at risk. He may ambush them when they get home.
Did you here about the Police Chief Brame murder/suicidee in Washington State a while ago. He threatened his wife vand then after he lost it, he shot her and himself. So if you say palin did something wrong, it would have been not locking this trooper up for fazing his kid. Wow, you Dems don’t really care about anybody but your own party.
Posted by: Mikel | October 17, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Yavo Lem: The event you caught a clip from was a charity event sponsored by the archdiocese of New York. John McCain and Barack Obama were both there. What you heard was a piece from light hearted speeches given by both mean. If you listen to the whole thing you would understand what was happening. There was very little seriousness in most of what Obama and McCain were saying—it was all in fun.
Posted by: George | October 18, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Why won’t John McSame release the tape he made for the North Vietnamese?
Posted by: hotandspicy | October 18, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Palin Palin how about explaing your relationship with AIP AND your Abuse of power before pointing fingers. It is the ecomony stupid!
Posted by: rrr | October 18, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
” Indeed, in an October 10 press release, ACORN noted that “in almost every state we are required to turn in ALL completed applications, even the ones we know to be problematic.”
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What would you expect Acorn to say?
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*** ACORN did not register anyone twice ***
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“the Cuyahoga County Elections Board has 73 cards with [Freddie] Johnson’s name on them.”
Posted by: JimAK | Oct 17, 2008 9:18:52 PM
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“The Associated Press reported Friday that the New Mexico GOP found 28 people who voted fraudulently in Albuquerque during the June Democratic primary by absentee ballot. One of the ballots was cast from someone named “Duran-Duran”
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The Associated Press reported Friday that the New Mexico GOP found 28 people who voted fraudulently in Albuquerque during the June Democratic primary by absentee ballot. One of the ballots was cast from someone named “Duran-Duran”
“When you register the same person multiple times, when you register fictional characters, when you register dead people and when you register 300 people at the same 1200 square foot home it is not a question of “deserving scrutiny”. It is a question of how many people and which ones should be put in jail for fraud.”
I for one am glad that McCain and Palin are strong enough to have brought this travesty of Democracy to the public, even though they knew that they would be clubed for doing so,
Sarah has more balls then Barack!
Posted by: schmalka bernstein | October 18, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
You right wing nuts that it is okay to question Obama, but don’t was us to question Palin and her association with AIP that her husband was a memeber for 7 years and how her husband was running her office and now Palin have been fould Abuse of Power and nobody is questioning her about it. Palin is a racist fool like the rest of the right wing nuts that have hate rallies.
Posted by: rrr | October 18, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
BEA:
“Kathy, I have to show my drivers license when I vote. You have to have a valid drivers license or ID when voting in OH. ”
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WHAT IF YOU’RE MAILING A WRITE-IN BALLOT?
Do you include your license in the letter?
If you just send in the informtion on the license it can be duplicated by others.
Posted by: schmalka bernstein | October 18, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
McCain keynote speaker at ACORN rally
Who is the real John McCain?
Posted by: MrUniteUs | October 18, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
It is really idiotic to suggest that a person can actually vote more than once in this country. You simply cannot. Voter registration is not the same as actually voting. Poor McCain/Palin… Smearing everybody with this simple-minded stupidity is getting boring.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | October 18, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am
Oh,
Sarah Palin irritates me to no end every time she opens her mouth. I wouldn’t mind her folksiness or her pro-life views and her holier-than-thou mentality as much if SHE WOULD STOP BEING SUCH A HYPOCRITE AND INTENT TO JUMP ON IRRELEVANT AND UNTRUE ISSUES.
Gov. Palin, let me explain it to you. It goes like this. ACORN paid people to go and register voters. Some of those people were too lazy to actually earn that money and instead sat down and opened a phone book or scribbled made-up names. NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA. These people won’t even show up to vote if they’re made up.
Hey, Sarah, McCain was a keynote speaker for ACORN only a few years ago, what have you got to say about that?
How about your ethics violations?
Can you show me you actually know something about world affairs other then being able to see the former Soviet Union from your state?
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 18, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am
WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Obama campaign announced Friday that it is asking Attorney General Michael Mukasey to turn over any investigations of voter fraud or voter suppression to Special Prosecutor Nora Dannehy.
Dannehy is also the special prosecutor recently appointed to investigate the U.S. attorney firing scandal.
It’s the latest salvo in an escalating war over allegations of possible voter irregularities during the upcoming presidential election.
“What they’re actually about is the unprecedented effort to essentially sap the American people of confidence in the voting process,” Bob Bauer, the Obama campaign’s general counsel, said Friday on a conference call.
Bauer said partisan politics was behind Thursday’s leak from senior governmental officials about a preliminary FBI investigation into the voter registration activities of ACORN, the embattled community organizing group that has become the focus of Republican efforts to highlight possible fraud as the election approaches. Watch the latest report on ACORN’s voter registration efforts »
“ACORN is a tool for attacking voters,” Bauer said.
“We need to have these matters removed from the day-to-day department’s direct control and put into the special prosecutor’s independent hands,” Bauer told reporters Friday. “She should have responsibility for reviewing any and all matters involving allegations of fraud and suppression in this election.”
Posted by: Mike NC | October 18, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am
Yavo Lem cites Obama’s comments at the Waldorf saying he could see the Russian Tea Room as evidence that Obama stretches the truth. He is clearly on to something. I went to Alaska and, to my amazement, I could suddenly speak Russian. Sarah Palin is right. Very far right…so far right she has to look left to look right. Yavo, if you stand at the Waldorf and look left, you will see a store that sells a “sense of humor”. Try one on. By the way, Obama was speaking at the Alfred E. Smith benefit dinner (a humor roast) with fellow comedian, John McCain when he made the Russian Tea Room comment!
Posted by: DanR | October 18, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am
Our most cherished right as an American citizen is the right to vote. That right to vote and the entire election process is what millions of our bravest citizens have fought and died for throughout our history. When one part of the election process loses its integrity the entire process is undermined. Those who consider voter registration fraud as no big deal, show little respect for the election process? And that is like spitting in the face of the men and women who have died for your right to vote.
Posted by: James Danley | October 18, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
James Danley,
The people fighting in Iraq are fighting a war based on lies. Over 4,000 Americans have died over the lies the Republicans told and sold to us.
NOW, YOU EXPECT US TO ELECT THE MCCAIN-PALIN TICKET AS THEY LIE AND ARE EXPOSED FOR IT DAILY.
Please!
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | October 18, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Common Sense, first of all I don’t expect you to vote for McCain-Palin. I do expect everyone to respect the institution of our election process and take voter registration seriously.
As for the Battle of Iraq, we did not go into the war based on lies. If that were the case, then why have you and others not blasted President Clinton, Sen. Clinton, Sen. Kerry, Sen. Rockefeller, and dozens of others for the “lies” that they told about Iraq having WMDs and being an “imminent” threat? The fact is that whether Iraq had WMDs or not is irrelevant. We invaded Iraq because President Bush, after 12 years of diplomatically attempting to convince Saddam Hussein to comply with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire, decided that was long enough. And he rescinded the cease fire and resumed the original 1991 Gulf War.
Posted by: James Danley | October 18, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
With her 1.89 GPA you can
expect Palin to be fuzzed
up on the simplest of issues.
Posted by: anon | October 18, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm