Palin’s Taxes
ABC News’ David Wright, Alyssa Litoff and Imtiyaz Delawala report: After significant pressure from the Obama-Biden campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign today finally released the 2006 and 2007 tax returns for Sarah and Todd Palin, along with a public financial disclosure document the candidate recently filed in connection with her bid for the vice presidency.
The documents paint the picture of a well-to-do middle class family with two income earners. Palin is clearly the primary breadwinner, earning more than twice as much as her husband, even though the so-called "First Dude" operates two businesses –- commercial fishing and income from snowmobile racing.
According to the most recent return, Todd Palin’s fishing business grossed less than $50,000 in 2007 for a profit of $15,513. His snow machine racing business grossed $17,000 but home office expenses meant that he claimed a net loss of nearly $10,000.
It is, however, Sarah Palin’s income that is liable to draw the scrutiny of tax authorities. And it is not immediately clear whether the figures detailed in these newly-released forms will resolve questions that have already been raised.
Of particular interest: roughly $17,000 in state-issued per diems for evenings spent in her own home in Wasilla. The Washington Post recently reported that the per diems and associated travel costs from the state capital in Juneau for Palin’s family could mean a tax liability of more than $60,000 for Palin’s first year and a half as governor.
The address listed on the 1040’s is Palin’s family home in Wasilla, which would seem to suggest Palin considers that, not the governor’s mansion in Juneau, her "tax home." However the McCain-Palin campaign maintains that her “tax home” is technically the governor’s mansion in Juneau.
The point is potentially significant because any per diems and travel reimbursements received in connection with someone’s “tax home” would likely be taxable as income. According to IRS regulations: "If you (and your family) do not live at your tax home (defined earlier), you cannot deduct the cost of traveling between your tax home and your family home. You also cannot deduct the cost of meals and lodging while at your tax home."
The IRS also strictly forbids deductions for expenses incurred bringing a spouse and kids along on a business trip. Tax authorities say any reimbursement for travel costs for family members would likely incur income taxes.
But Palin’s tax returns indicate she paid no taxes on the disputed per diems and travel expenses.
The McCain-Palin campaign insists Palin did not owe taxes on the per diems because of an understanding reached between the IRS and the Alaska Division of Finance, giving the state broad discretion in determining whether such reimbursements are taxable. (“Income Tax Implications Of Long-Term Per Diem”)
The campaign also issued an advisory letter dated September 30, 2008 by Washington tax attorney Roger M. Olsen stating that: “she is entitled to meal and incidental allowance payments when away from her duty station and tax home performing services for her employer; it is not relevant that she spends the night at her family home rather than in government paid lodging.”
Finally, the campaign insists she saved the state money hundreds of thousands of dollars on her travel costs, compared to previous Alaska governors.
However, a Washington tax attorney who supports Obama disputes that argument.
"She’s using her state office as a means to generate a favorable tax status for herself," he said. "You and I couldn’t do that."
There also appears to be a discrepancy between the income Palin reports to the IRS and the income listed on the public financial disclosure reform she recently filed in conjunction with the campaign.
That form lists her income as governor of Alaska as $196,531.50. However that’s greater than the combined income with Todd Palin she reported on her 2007 1040: $151,556. The W-2 form submitted for 2007 lists her wages and other compensation at $107,987.
Which begs the question: what happened to that extra $88,544? According to the McCain-Palin campaign, the additional amount represents the salary Palin earned in 2008, during the period not covered by the 2006 and 2007 tax returns.
Palin makes no separate accounting of travel expenses and reimbursements on the public financial disclosure form. Although the form does include a space for listing reimbursements from any one source over $260, the form simply says, “Not Applicable to candidate.”
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I can’t wait for her to make the argument that she doesn’t have to pay Federal Income Taxes because Federal Income taxes are unconstitutional!! Welcome to “The Fringe” Sarah!
Book her, Dano!
Posted by: thebob.bob | October 3, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
I’m not concerned with Governor Palin’s tax returns. I am concerned about all the lies Obama has told. I am concerned with Obama’s ties to terrorists, anti-Americans and the corrupt “organizations” he has been associated with.
OBAMA IS THE “GOLDEN BOY” SELECTED BY THE DNC AND BIASED MEDIA.
I watched the debate between Governor Palin (5 weeks of national debate experience) versus Senator Biden (35 years of national debate experience).
Obviously, she is a quick study. Just imagine what she will be like after four years as vice president! She has been a Mayor and a Governor. She is more qualified than anyone running.
John McCain showed great judgment in choosing her.
It’s too bad the DNC and biased media didn’t “select” Biden or Hillary. OBAMA HAS BASED HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES. HE HAS TOO MANY TIES TO TERRORISTS AND ANTI-AMERICANS. DON’T FORGET “God Damn America” JEREMIAH WRIGHT, PFLEGER, FARRAKHAN, AYERS, REZKO (TO NAME A FEW). BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS A DANGER TO OUR COUNTRY. Obama’s ties to organizations like “ACORN” caused much of the country’s mortgage foreclosure issues. ACORN IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR “VOTER FRAUD” IN MANY STATES! Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
I’m voting for the Honorable John McCain in November.
STOP THE DRAMA – NO OBAMA!
GET A BRAIN – VOTE McCAIN!
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS! | October 3, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
She doesn’t have to pay full taxes because she can see the tax man from her house.
Posted by: JR | October 3, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
“GET A BRAIN – VOTE McCAIN!”
Yeah, you need to find one if your going to vote for McSame.
Posted by: JR | October 3, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Flying the kids around and Todd from place to place should not be done by the taxpayer. By not claiming the reimbursed expenses, the taxpayer is doing it.
What happened to the $17,000 in gifts? She didn’t claim hardly any gifts. $2,500?
Todd’s hobby also can only be considered a business if he makes money on it at least 2 of every five years.
Also, they didn’t tithe 10%. They donated a bunch of junk to the Salvation Army on December 31, 2007 for the tax write off.
Hypocrites.
Posted by: trifecta | October 3, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
I wonder where the money went, sure wasn’t for condoms for her kids.
Posted by: JR | October 3, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
By Dylan on Sep 6, 2008 in US News |
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time? – Sarah Palin’s son Track Palin has joined the army to avoid going to prison.Track Palin is not going to Iraq because he is patriotic but because he was arrested,for vandalizing the brakes of a school bus,in order to avoid jail he enlisted himself in the army.Track Palin will be performing security duties for his brigade’s top officers in Iraq starting on September 11, 2008.That’s all we have for now on Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
Posted by: jj | October 3, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
McSame/Failin 00
We’ve had losers for 8 years, why stop now?
Posted by: JR | October 3, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Palin is failin’
Voting McCain is insane
Posted by: another poet | October 3, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
You know how Sarah Palin became a hockey mom?
Her son Track Palin was caught vandelizing school buses, cutting the brakes. A bus driver realized the vandelism and was able to preven a catastrophe. He gets sent to Michigan where he plays “HOCKEY”.
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
By Dylan on Sep 6, 2008 in US News |
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time? – Sarah Palin’s son Track Palin has joined the army to avoid going to prison.Track Palin is not going to Iraq because he is patriotic but because he was arrested,for vandalizing the brakes of a school bus,in order to avoid jail he enlisted himself in the army.Track Palin will be performing security duties for his brigade’s top officers in Iraq starting on September 11, 2008.That’s all we have for now on Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
What a bunch of THUGS, this Palin family
Posted by: walterL | October 3, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
You know how Sarah Palin became a hockey mom?
Her son Track Palin was caught vandelizing school buses, cutting the brakes. A bus driver realized the vandelism and was able to preven a catastrophe. He gets sent to Michigan where he plays “HOCKEY”.
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
By Dylan on Sep 6, 2008 in US News |
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time? – Sarah Palin’s son Track Palin has joined the army to avoid going to prison.Track Palin is not going to Iraq because he is patriotic but because he was arrested,for vandalizing the brakes of a school bus,in order to avoid jail he enlisted himself in the army.Track Palin will be performing security duties for his brigade’s top officers in Iraq starting on September 11, 2008.That’s all we have for now on Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
What a bunch of THUGS, this Palin family
Posted by: walterl | October 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Replace: You are an idiot…and I say that with all due respect.
Posted by: dano | October 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Biden’s Bracelet moment
Say it ain’t so Joe! Katie’s restaurant in Wilmington closed at least 20 years ago. Biden and his home spun stories.
Posted by: geevill | October 3, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
AFTER THE BLATANT AND STUNNING SEXISM LAUNCHED AGAINST THE HILLARY CLINTON PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN by Barack Hussein Obama and the liberal media, democratic Hillary supporters were thrilled to hear John McCain announce Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, because, she offers Americans a chance to vote for someone who is her own woman, and who represents a party that, while we don’t agree on all the issues, at least respects women enough to take them seriously.
HAVING A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND NOT AS THE SPOUSE, IS A CHANGE WHOSE TIME HAS COME, despite the fact that the media and Democratic Party leaders have decided otherwise. But with the Sarah Palin’s nomination, Clinton voters, in particular, have received a political wake-up call they never expected. Having watched their candidate and their principles betrayed by the very people who are supposed to be the flame-holders for equal rights and fairness, they now looking across the aisle and see a woman who represents everything the feminist movement claimed it stood for. Women can have a family and a career.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S BULLYING OF THE CLINTON CANDIDACY DURING THE PRIMARY SEASON WAS THE FIRST REVELATION OF HOW MISOGYNISTIC AND SEXIST THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS BECOME. The democratic party has moved from taking the female vote for granted to outright contempt for women. That’s why Sarah Palin represents the most serious conservative threat ever to the modern democratic liberal claim on issues of male cultural and social superiority.
THE TIME IS NOW FOR A WOMAN TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AS AN EQUAL PARTNER IN GOVERNANCE.
COUNTRY FIRST! JOHN MCCAIN/SARAH PALIN
Posted by: Manolete | October 3, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
According to Stateline, the Governor’s Salary in Alaska was $125,000 per year for Alaska in 2007. She took office in December, so she should have been paid the entire $125,000.
The $17,000 in per diem, $49,800 in travel for her family, are not reported as income. The gifts are underreported by a factor of 10.
Posted by: trifecta | October 3, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
BREAKING: The blogs are reporting Palin did a porn video while in college in Idaho. It is reported that Larry Flint is negotiating for the exclusive rights to sell it. It was an amatuer video entitled “Nailin’ Palin.” Watch this story take off like widfire this weekend!
Posted by: dano | October 3, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Another Friday night tax dump from the McCain campaign. Straight talking mavericks? Please, its more like an aged hack and his trailer park queen.
Posted by: DMR | October 3, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
For Sarah Palin to keep bragging that she is a hockey mom under the circumstances that she became one, is so hypocritical.
So her son gets arrested for vandelizing school buses, gets sent to a juvenile delinquent school where he plays hockey…and she’s proud of that?
I’m outraged! She should be forthcoming about that story if she’s going to use that term to define herself.
Posted by: nancy | October 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Where is the much discussed per diem that Governor Palin received for staying in her own home? It is not reported on the Palin’s 2007 tax return. I believe that the gross income is $227514.00 with expenses for fishing and snowmobile racing their adjusted gross income is $166090.00. Why is the racing considered a business and not a hobby? Is a plane a necessary fishing expense? With itemized deductions and the exemptions they paid tax on $124921.00 Do the three oldest children file their own tax returns to report the Alaska PFD? Why is their return by H&R Block?
Posted by: u want to know | October 3, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
“Most [tax revisions] didn’t improve the system, they made it more like Washington itself: complicated, unfair, cluttered with gobbledygook and loopholes designed for those with the power and influence to hire high-priced legal and tax advisers”. — Ronald Reagan
Posted by: julie | October 3, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
I am concerned with Governor Palin’s tax returns. I am concerned about all the lies Palin and McCain have told. I am concerned with McCain’s ties to Phil Gramm, Keating, and the anti-American Wall Street Thieves that have brought this
country to it’s knees.
PALIN IS THE “BOY TOY” SELECTED BY THE MCCAIN AND A SEXIST GOP.
I watched the debate between Governor Palin (5 weeks of national debate experience) versus Senator Biden (35 years of national debate experience).
Obviously, SHE is a POLITICAL HACK WHO WON’T ANSER QUESTIONS AND INSTEAD WILL
TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE PLEASES (THOUGH BADLY.)
John McCain showed poor judgment in choosing her, HE’S OBVIOUSLY COULD CARE LESS
ABOUT AMERICA AND THE MIDDLE CLASS. He loses 5 HOMES, he’s ok with that. What about you losing your home? ARE YOU OK WITH THAT?
MCCAIN HAS BASED HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES. HE HAS TOO MANY TIES TO WALL STREET DANDIES AND ANTI-AMERICANS WHO RAMSACK THIS COUNTRY AND HAVE MAILBOXES IN BERMUDA TO AVOID PAYING TAXES. DON’T FORGET HE VOTED 95% WITH BUSH, MCCAIN VOTED AGAINST FUNDING VETERANS BENEFITS. McCain’s ties to Phil Gramm, Jim Leach and other Wall Street goons caused the country’s mortgage foreclosure issues and reckless loan funding and sharking. PALIN IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR ABUSE OF AUTHORITY IN ALASKA. McCain is an unrepentant tool.
I’m voting for the Honorable Obama in November.
STOP THE DRAIN – NO MCCAIN!
Posted by: REPLACE CORRUPT-REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS | October 3, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Manolete, Manolete:
What are we to make of you? One day you are Paul Revere, sounding a clarion call: TO ARMS!!!! Your trademark CAPS SCREAMING at the world. The next day you are a sensitive, concerned feminist, urging us to get a woman in the White House as an equal partner. You, my friend, sound like two different people. Or someone of two different minds. Or someone WITH two minds! Or possibly many, many minds. And for sure – much time to post cut-and-paste screeds all over the boards. Bless your heart…
Posted by: joel | October 3, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Wow! This Palin family is so crooked!
1: Troopergate
2: Son gets arrested for vandelizing school buses, gets sent to Michigan school where he plays hockey…hence the term “hockey mom.”
3. to be continued….I’m sure
Posted by: peter | October 3, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Palin is a great performer.
She can be chosen as an American Idol.
Good for entertainment.
I enjoy watching her winks, flirting with cameras, and most of all, her flat fall face.
But Thanks no thanks for VP of USA.
Posted by: zen | October 3, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
I guess putting this information out at a time when the “base” is so enamored with Gov Palin, she could hardly do any wrong is another strategic campaign move from the same crew who sold the American people Bush twice.
Yep, folks — the McCain/Palin campaign crew is peopled by mostly the same gang who gave us George W Bush.
Honestly, are you better off now than eight years ago? Please be honest, at least with yourself.
We need real change. In front of the screen and most definitely behind the scenes.
Posted by: dassis | October 3, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
It is far worse than any science fiction horror movie – IT IS REAL!
Humans are roaring down the highway to extinction.
Did you notice that WWII resulted in the biggest kill in history – some 40 million in a very short time period? Have you noticed that the origin of the problem is the large number of criminals suported by the economies of large cities? Have you noticed that the wonders of modern technology are increasing big city populations on a day by day basis?
Obviousy big city populations MUST BE CONTROLLED TO BREAK THE STEADY DEGENERATION. Equally obvious is the fact nothing is being done to stop it! Nor will anything be done in the future! This is mass suicide, sometimes compared to lemmings diving into the ocean and drowning.
YOU ARE NUTS!
Posted by: Todd Baker | October 3, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Hockey mom…I didn’t know the story behind her being a ‘hockey mom’.
THIS WOMAN DEFINITELY DOESN’T SPEAK FOR ME or TO ME!
What a fake!
Posted by: tamaraJohnson | October 3, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
You people are frikkin idiots. You are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. You want to compare questionable activities, look at Rezko, Farrahkan, Ayers, Wright, and the assholes who received millions as CEO fro Fannie and Freddie just before it became a problem. Obama “claims” he questioned Fannie and Freddies stability a year ago, hmmm makes me wonder if his friend and Advisor Raines had some inside information on the stability of Fannie and Freddie. Back in 2003 Bush called for more regulation for Freddie and Fannie only to have fudge packin Barney Franks (Dem-Mass) come out and say that Freddie and Fannie are fine and there was no problems with Fannie and Freddie. Now we know that our economic problems stem from the mortgages that Freddie and Fannie gave to people who could not afford such long mortgages. ABC and most of the people on this blog are idiots.
Posted by: Dave | October 3, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
AFTER THE BLATANT AND STUNNING SEXISM LAUNCHED AGAINST THE AMERICAN WOMEN by Sarah Palin and her team of “Aides”, democratic Obama supporters were thrilled to hear Hillary Cinton stands in support of Obama, because, he offers Americans a chance to vote for someone who is free to chose, free to think, free to do what is best for her family, and who represents a party that, while we don’t agree on all the issues, has always taken women seriously.
HAVING A STRONG LEADER IN THE WHITE HOUSE, AND NOT A PRODUCT OF LOBBYISTS, IS A WELCOME CHANGE FOR AMERICA. Americans of all walks of life are hungry for the hope and change that only the Honorable Obama and his very experienced Vice President choice, Senator Biden can bring. With the Sarah Palin nomination, McCain has demonstrated voters that cheap thrills are more important than leading and honorable campaign gor him. Having watched their candidate and their principles betray the very people who are supposed to be the flame-holders for equal rights and fairness, they now look for new ways to ruin America
THE BUSH/MCCAIN PARTY BULLYING OF THE AMERICAN TRUST CANNOT BE FORGOTTEN NOR PARDONED.
THE TIME IS NOW FOR A TRUE, THOUGHFUL, AND INTELLIGENT LEADER TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN ’08!
Posted by: NO MORE RAMSACKING OF AMERICA WITH MCCAIN | October 3, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Question, why is a candidate for the President of the United States (Barack Obama) hiring a lawyer, Joe Sandler who provides legal representation for CAIR, the Counsel of American-Islamic Relations, which was founded by the terrorists of Hamas? Barack Obama wants to be the Commander in Chief of the US in the war on terror yet is using a lawyer for CAIR a group with terrorist connections. Philip Berg’s filed law suit in the federal court requesting that Barack Obama produce his birth certificate to prove that he is eligible to be President and Barack Obama to hire this lawyer and does not present his original birth certificate to the courts. We are now waiting for the judge to rule on the motion. If the judge grants the case the trial will not start until after the November 4th election. So why does the Junior Senator from Illinois hire a lawyer instead of just providing a copy of the original birth certificate to the courts? WHY?
Posted by: Mike | October 3, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
These tax releases always bring up more questions than they provide answers. Is Palin really hiding income from the Feds?
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | October 3, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
“I am concerned about all the lies Obama has told. I am concerned with Obama’s ties to terrorists, anti-Americans and the corrupt “organizations” he has been associated with. ”
We have traced your server and you will be watched; including your movements with regard to President Obama’s geographical location.
Posted by: jim mchiggins | October 3, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
The only reason the leftist and Messiah paid posters are in a tizzy today, is because Sarah hit the home run yesterday.
Infact, I thought with the enormous pressure the lady was under by the media and Obama hate brigade which railroaded HIllary, she might break down but to my surprise it Was Biden who cried.
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: vic | October 3, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Can I nail and bundle up a couple of tax cheats, for a three year stay at Club Fed, in under a minute? Oh you betcha!
Posted by: IRS GUY | October 3, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Why would someone have such a strong need to hate someone? Obviously they are unhappy in their lives. As an Independent I find it quite easy to state that Governor shouldn’t have been chosen. She doesn’t have enough experience. And she seems like a very lovely women with a very nice family. And I either like her policies or I do not. Why the need to demonize her and to try to ripe her apart? I can understand wanting to do that to someone who has hurt other people – although that’s not my style… So why the hate???
Posted by: Juli An | October 3, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Palin seems way too comfortable lying, even for a politician. The exclusion of what seems to be taxable income from her tax forms seems consistent with her other behavior. At least she has that going for her.
Posted by: wanderer | October 3, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Mike, stop your lying and look at the Palin’s tax returns — that’s what this posting board is about.
FROM FACTCHECK.ORG
Regarding Barack Obama’s American citizenship
Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: August 26, 2008
The truth about Obama’s birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document’s authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is “fake.”
We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
Analysis
Since we first wrote about Obama’s birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.
Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?
Doocy: What do you mean they have a “false birth certificate” on their Web site?
Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.
Doocy: Well, couldn’t it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?
Corsi: No, it’s a — there’s been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it’s been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It’s a fake document that’s on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.
Corsi isn’t the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:
* The birth certificate doesn’t have a raised seal.
* It isn’t signed.
* No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
* In the zoomed-in view, there’s a strange halo around the letters.
* The certificate number is blacked out.
* The date bleeding through from the back seems to say “2007,” but the document wasn’t released until 2008.
* The document is a “certification of birth,” not a “certificate of birth.”
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it’s stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.
(and it continues with the photos)
BY THE WAY — fackcheck.org is not attached to either political party.
Posted by: dassis | October 3, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Juli An–perhaps you did not hear Palin’s acceptance speech. I found it not only nonfactual, but demeaning and offensive as well. Palin is a self described barracuda. Nothing wrong with that, politics is a contact sport. But she is going to get smacked back, especially when she and First Dude get caught red handed in tax dodging.
Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | October 3, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Congrats to Palin for winning the debate last night. Biden appeals to the brain, but Palin appeals to the heart. I noticed Biden didn’t say a single word about Palin’s inexperience, knowing in his heart that Obama is not qualified.
Posted by: young_voter | October 3, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
What if those 1000 some emails which Troopergate defense lawyers are refusing to release (some copied to First Dude) reference personal 2006 and 2007 tax deduction questions to various government officials?
That would surely be a good reason to cover them up given the issues raised on these two released years of Palin tax filings?
Posted by: julie | October 3, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Dassiss
BY THE WAY — fackcheck.org is not attached to either political party.
___________________–
I thought you meant fake check,betcha just slipped. Who gives fact check any authority to judge.
I thought being non-profit it sure has contributors list we have to make sure who the donors are.
If its a fake Obama is not going to get away, some day He will have to produce his orginal maybe tested in the lab or under microscope for its authencity like the relics of past.
McCain/ Palin 08
Posted by: vic | October 3, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Mike – Your question Obama’s legal representation when BUSH had the binLaden family over to the white house and shuttled them out of the country at the expense of the U.S. taxpayers???? You are kidding, right? This is a bad joke, right? The ties to Saudi oil with teh Bush Family and Cheney are remarkable and extended. Joe Sandler is an American, educated at Harvard Law.
And for Manolette, or more for anyone reading her words: The supporters of the RNC started a “viral” campaign to speak out in false “I was a Hillary Supporter” campaign to mislead women supporting Obama and to drive a wedge between primary Hill supporters and primary Obama supporters. It is well known. Don’t fall for it. No, I repeat NO Hillary supporter would ever consider Palin in the same league.
Posted by: You're Kidding, right? | October 3, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Young_voter…….Biden didn’t say anything about Palin’s inexperience because she is irrelevant. (unqualified is really the descriptor here),
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 3, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
dassis—–There is obviously something wrong with the birth-certificate or Mr. Barack Obama would have submitted a copy to the courts for viewing as requested by the law suit. It would be as simple as that — just let the courts look at the birth certificate. Why not? The reason Obama hired a lawyer (Joe Sandler), was to stall the court, as once Obama becomes President, it’s too late—Obama can just seal the court documents, stating national security. And, by the way people can be bought these days…fact check is not attached to either political party, well neither am I. Why can’t the courts look at the document and decide if it is legal or now? You have a problem with this? Maybe I should hire a few people and they can tell the lottery board that I have the winning ticket (they are honest people, I will say) but I will not show you the ticket…is that okay with you too?
Posted by: Mike | October 3, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
I like in 2006 the cost basis for her Salvation Army donation was 400 dollars yet the “Thrift Store Value” was 1000 bucks. Looks like investing in cribs and baby clothes is the way to go!
Posted by: ctam66 | October 3, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Also, Reagan never “tricked” Gorbachev. WTF are you talking about?
do a little research…it was a thing called “Star Wars Program”..Reagan dreamed of it, but it was not going to happen..he took the concept, made the russians believe we could pull it off…he coned him you idiot..he lied…conservative way…i win !!!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 3, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Mike: It doesn’t matter where Obama was born. His mother was an American citizen who had lived in the usa therefore a natural born citizen.
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 3, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Gov. Palin should make an informercial on how pay less than 10% of their taxes to the US Goverment. (Palin 2006 taxes)
She’s a corrupt fraud. Why didn’t McCain check these tax forms earlier?
Posted by: Dan | October 3, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Obama is really a secret agent sent to turn us all into murdering zombies.
McCain was brainwashed while held captive in North Vietnam and is programmed to enslave us all.
Palin is a clairvoyant who can read Putin’s mind.. and the minds of every American. No one will be safe!!
(take your pick my fellow Americans.. grab which lie you want– those emails we receive are facts, eh?)
Personally, I’m with Obama. He’s NOT George Bush-McCain.
Posted by: Gus | October 3, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
PALIN LOOKED LIKE A GRADE SCHOOL STUDENT AND BIDEN LOOKED LIKE THE TOLERENT PROFESSOR——WOW NO QUESTION ABOUT BIDEN FAR BEYOND THIS WOMAN.
I CANNOT IMAGINE HER AS VP AND VERY POSSIBLY PRES.WHAT A FEARFUL THOUGHT.
Posted by: rodney | October 3, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
PALIN IS AS DUMB OR DUMBER THAN MCCAINN
TELLS ONE THINK TODAY AND THE OPPOSITE TOMORROW——SHE SURE SOUNDS LIKE MCFLIP FLOP—–EGADS I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE SEEN A PAIR LIKE THESE TWO
Posted by: rodney | October 3, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
thebob,
Income tax is not Constitutional.
Posted by: nopatriotact | October 3, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
The fact is Obama is Osama-bin-laden’s brother and his dad is Saddam Hussein. John McCain is the illegitimate son of Noriega the ex-Panamanian president and his 1/2 brother is Charles Manson. I know this is all truth, because I read it on posts at ABC.ONLINE.COM. Nobody would post an untruth on that site!
Posted by: mary | October 3, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Palin is giving this country and the chance to media a chance to show appreciation for the fairer sex.
Looks like they prefer to beat’em up. Have we heard this level of reporting on Obama?
Posted by: pcunite | October 3, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Palin is not even qualified to be First Lady. And I’m sure that is what McCain is thinking.
Posted by: doug | October 3, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
If she did not earn as much or more as other politicians then that means she is not experienced enough to be VP let alone the President. She has not become corrupt yet, and you have to be corrupt to be in office!!!!!
Posted by: J | October 3, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
WASHINGTON — Rep. Charles Rangel wrote six checks for about $10,800 in back taxes, and then penned an open letter to New Yorkers Friday, saying he has done nothing dishonorable and is the target of a GOP “guerrilla war.”
When asked Friday in an interview with New York’s WCBS-TV how the chairman of the House tax writing committee, could get into tax problems, Rangel said: “I can just say that it is a series of mistakes that are unconscionable, but we’re not talking about any intention to avoid or evade the law.”
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE TAX WRITING
COMMITTEE – LOL
You just have to love Democrats!
Posted by: princess | October 3, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
vic,
My bad on the keyboard stroke (the “k” instead of “t” in factcheck)…
On your point about whether they have a right to judge, they aren’t. They check and verify facts and report them. You have to know that a lot of baloney gets accepted by people of all walks and political leanings (especially during a presidential election cycle)so, it’s great that something like their site exists.
Be honest? Would you want to investigate them if they had reported they did not see the actual verifiable Hawaiian birth certificate?
mike, I hear your concern but I hope you can look at the citizenship issue and the Berg lawsuit with a different perspective.
It is a distraction that at best is an ill advised attempt to smear Barack Obama, at worst an attempt to undermine the rights of Americans to both run for office and vote for the candidate of their choice. My guess is that Berg is a supporter of Republican candidates? Do you know if this is true?
Anyway, either of you gentlemen (I assume men by your posted names) what do you think about the Palins’ tax returns?
Any comments on this issue?
thanks
Posted by: dassis | October 3, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
No Barak HOUSAIN Obama for American President.
Posted by: emaly | October 3, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Get a brain? Give me a break, McSAme can’t remember what he said yesterday. Palin, what a joke. She can’t tell Katie what newspapers she reads, maybe she doesn’t read.
Posted by: Bette | October 3, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
So if you spend 80% less than the previous governor still not worth mentioning than a few nights of $50/night claim?? This makes me laugh. If my employee save me $10,000, he’s sure deserves anything less than $10,000. Democrat Rangel didn’t get kick out for not paying rent income because he didn’t know because his wife handles that. Democrat Frank Barney screw an 18 year boy and a digusted man still serve as if he’s honorable. liberal loons.
Posted by: hannah | October 3, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
If anyone wants to know which canadate is narrow minded, selfish and least capable of being in touch in what the middle class average american needs and/or wants, therefore ,the least capable of doing whats right for the public and not themselves===Ask yourself this–which canadate sought Wealthy women to marry, Which canadate has such DisRespect for women that while his Covenant wife was lying in the hospital dismangled from a horrible auto accident, did he not only have an adultress affair but went to his covenant wife’s hospital beside to tell her he is divorcing her to marry another woman much younger and wealthier……GEE IT DOESN’T TAKE A BRAIN SURGEON TO FIGURE OUT WHICH CANADATE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE ELSE BUT HIMSELF………Also, ask any of his military comrades about the selfish and priviledged man they knew who is now running for US president. THEN ASK YOURSeLF,, do you truly believe he will do what is right for the average american??????????
Posted by: jade | October 3, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
People…let HUSSEIN takes the White House…….!!! GO HUSSEIN! GO HUSSEIN! GO HUSSEIN…!!! When that happened….I am already in Bora Bora…escapeing Hussein…
Posted by: Kevin | October 3, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Democrat can win presidency with any candidate but Obama. He has no substance, no experience, too partisan, too secret about his mission to destroy American. We cannot risk our country. Who knows he is not a mole.
Posted by: Democratloom | October 3, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Anyway, either of you gentlemen (I assume men by your posted names) what do you think about the Palins’ tax returns?
Any comments on this issue?
thanks
Posted by: dassis | Oct 3, 2008 11:07:46 PM
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THANK YOU
Posted by: GIGI | October 3, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Does it really matter at all about the taxes. If she cheated to defraud the tax man it would be an issue. If it was a mistake all of make mistakes every day. Sh t get of her back.
Your yelling about her son. Does anyone care at all except for him and all of our sons and daughters to get home safely.
Your idiots as I have said many times. You pick away at items that do not matter while the country is going down the abyass.
Posted by: William | October 3, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Obama has his tax attorney reviewing her stuff and casting dispertions? I would think the IRS is the one to say if all is ok or not and thus far I have not heard them say there is a problem.
Obama is out of place on this and that kind of behavior on his and his teams part will have me rethinking my view of him.
Posted by: StuDaBaka | October 3, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
One other issue. For the record, McCain only choose this alaskan bimbo in the attempt to appease all the gullable women that were angry that Hillary was not chosen as the democratic nominee or their vp nominee. He deduced he would win on having a woman as VP pulling in those votes from all those angry women, mentioned above; since he knew he couldn’t win on his own merit,,being he is not qualified to preside over the US doing the right thing for the average american. And being a POW does not give one the diplomacy and experience to be President of the US.
Posted by: jade | October 3, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
We australians are hoping you americans are smarter than you were the past 8 years. Please don’t vote more of the same. You may say.. keep out of americas business! but unfortunatley when america sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold; and as allies it scares the hell out of me that america may vote in a mccain/palin ticket. OMG they both have no idea.. biden was the only one in the debate that said anything with substance..!! please america think carefully.. vote obama/biden.. auzzies for obama!!!!
Posted by: bagley12 | October 3, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
OH — This is a REAL surprised…. NOT – - As if we didnt know that her taxes would be twisted into a NEGATIVE attack article…… Just another left wing smear piece with BO talking points and lots of ignorant nasty people saying ignorant nasty things….. ABC your real good at keeping your lefties wound up it would be nice if you had some ACTUAL FACTS instead of insinuating wrongdoing …………………..its quite obvious that ABC, CBS, and NBC are all pulling for the great and wonderful BO………ABC WHY don’t you just put the following headline on your national website and leave it there until the election is over “ABC LOVES & SUPPORTS BO FOR PRESIDENT” p.s. we “h^a”t^e” Republicans…… A little bit of honesty would be nice for a change…….
Posted by: Vet1973 | October 3, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Yay………now maybe we can get McCain’s medical records released. You know, the ones he doesn’t want Americans to see. The ones only a handful of news media were allowed to see behind closed doors with no cameras, pens or notepads allowed.
Posted by: wanamakerbeautiful | October 3, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
If you were the boss, who would you hire???
OBAMA: Harvard law professor, Juris Doctor of law degree, constitutional law expert, Senate committees: foreign affairs, homeland security, veterans affairs, family, education, health.
BIDEN: Juris Doctor of law degree, Senate committees: Foreign affairs (chair), economy, health, crime, women’s affairs, education, technology, environment
McBUSH: graduated from the naval academy in the bottom 5% of his class, senate committees: economy, environment, official conduct (arguably the 3 biggest Republican failures!!!!!!!!!)
PITBULL PALIN: went to 6 different universities before finally getting a BA degree in journalism, no domestic or foreign policy experience but can see Russia from her house.
SERIOUSLY, THIS IS A NO BRAINER!!!!
OBAMA IS QUALIFIED AND HAS THE EXPERIENCE.
If you vote McBush/Pitbull, the fate of your country will be in jeopardy. Everyone here in Europe is laughing at Americans— America has become the butt of all jokes— people are asking, how can they seriously consider voting for McBush and his Pitbull for another 4 years of Bush’s failed policies? Don’t they ever learn???
Remember the frontpage headline of London’s Daily Mirror newspaper back in 2004 when Americans re-elected Bush: HOW CAN 59 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO DUMB?
Posted by: kate buckingham | October 3, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Obama is NOT a Muslim, however even if he was, what’s wrong with that? Isn’t America supposed to be a democratic country, espousing that people are free to believe in whatever religion they want? Palin believes in witchcraft, do you not have a problem with that? Instead of preaching stupid sentiments like the bunch of lobotomised sheep that you are, why don’t you just admit that you are a RACIST?Seriously, Republicans do well to instill FEAR in STUPID, GULLIBLE people who will believe anything they read from a “respected” news service like FOX (pfft!)
Posted by: kate buckingham | October 3, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
If McBush has health problems (he’s 72 years old, had cancer 3 times and is on 6 different meds) this random Palin woman will become president. What is her international experience? “I can see Russia from my house”. Yep…that’s who you want leading your country? (sarcasm). Here in Europe, she wouldn’t even be allowed anywhere near the parliament’s cafeteria let alone allowed to have the top job in office!!
Posted by: kate buckingham | October 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Good evening, lazy liberals. How is the view from the projects today? Do you fear your entitlements are under attack from the right? Well, I have a solution. Get up, get out and get a job. It will release some of that pent-up pressure you are under due to the fact that the cost of the bail-out may cut into your lazy “What? Me Work?” lifestyle. Oh, and you may want to consider showering, shaving and brushing your teeth before going out the door to find work.
Posted by: bekumbokem | October 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Good evening, lazy liberals. How is the view from the projects today? Do you fear your entitlements are under attack from the right? Well, I have a solution. Get up, get out and get a job. It will release some of that pent-up pressure you are under due to the fact that the cost of the bail-out may cut into your lazy “What? Me Work?” lifestyle. Oh, and you may want to consider showering, shaving and brushing your teeth before going out the door to find work.
Posted by: bekumbokem | October 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
All that money Bill Clinton got selling nuclear secrets and hardware to Communist China, and we are fussing over THIS! Thanks liberal media!
Posted by: hmn | October 3, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Sarah Palin say she reads the same news as everybody. The hunting news, the fishing news , and the moose news.
Posted by: Sandy | October 3, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
These are the four Republicans that are attempting to circumvent the lawful Legislative investigation into Governor Palin’s abuse of her Office. Give them a call and tell them what you think about their attempt to prevent you learning the truth. .
Pass their contact info along please…��
Unless you think it’s OK in the United States of America for a politician who is accused of ethics violations to only submit to an investigation by those they can fire and demand that even the results of that tainted investigation be kept secret.��
Alaska State Representative Bob Lynn�District 31 – Anchorage��716 W. 4th Avenue, Suite 330�Anchorage, AK 99501-2133�Phone: (907) 269-0205�Fax: (907) 269-0207�
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Alaska State Representative Carl Gatto�District 13 – Palmer��600 E. Railroad Ave.�Wasilla, AK 99654�Phone: (907) 376-3725�Fax: (907) 376-4768�
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Alaska State Senator Thomas Wagoner�District Q – Kenai ��145 Main St. Loop Suite 226�Kenai, Alaska 99611�Phone: (907) 283-7996�Fax: (907) 283-8127
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Alaska State Senator Fred Dyson�District I – Eagle River��10928 Eagle River Rd., Suite 238�Eagle River, AK 99577�Phone: (907) 694-6683�Fax: (907) 694-1015
Posted by: pamp205 | October 3, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
I see all the republican losers are back on tonight. Hello Repukes. How are all you losers doing? I see most of you are still blind and dumb. Don’t mind the repukes folks, most of them can’t read or even comprehend what happen in the debate last night. They cannot understand or even make an informed decision about who got her ass kicked by Joe Biden. The woman is the biggest farce since John McCain suspending his campaign. She didn’t answer one question that was asked of her. Since when is it okay to come to a debate and say she won’t answer any question she doesn’t want to. What is the use of having a debate when some idiot like Palin can’t and won’t answer the question given to her. In all my 57 years of watching political debates have I ever seen such an ignoramus as Palin. This woman should be packed up and sent scurring back to where she came from. She is completely void of any intelligence whatsoever for the position of manager of a Lemonaide stand let alone VP of the USA. I cannot understand how americans can accept someone who is below even their expectations. Americans are a rare breed but a breed of ignorant and very very stupid people to even consider this woman to be fit for the VP position. Anyone who would vote for this ticket is plain and simple, an IDIOT. No if and or buts. Anyone and I mean anyone who places a vote for McCain and Palin should be thrown out of this country for treason. They are traitors to their own country. What a bunch if morons. And I thought Bush and Cheney was bad. Repukes are worst. They are the lowlifes of this country and do not deserve to be called americans
Posted by: My Name is NoBody | October 3, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Friday night document dump. Sure sounds Bushy.
Palin reminded me of our beloved Bush.
Vote McCain/Palin if you love the last 8 years.
Posted by: VotingForMyKidsFuture | October 3, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Youngvoter, You are a liar. You have always been a liar on these blogs. You fool noone. All the polls say biden whipped Palin quite handily, and having watched the debate I would say that is accurate. Go cry in your kool-aid, because your candidate is toast!
Posted by: SemperFi | October 4, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Mynameisnobody, I wish it was actually all repukes that are anti obama, but unfortunately alot of these losers are just haters. America has way too many of them. They wouldnt necessarily vote for the republican and blog for him, except that they cant stand the thought of a black president. They are mostly racists.
Posted by: SemperFi | October 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
McCain shoots craps. That’s his game.
Looks like he doesn’t mind gambling with his campaign.
He ain’t getting my consent to gamble with the country the same way.
Posted by: VotingForMyKidsFuture | October 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Well, I guess if we are supposed to beleive that Joe Biden, as a lifelong attorney, congressman and college professor has a net worth of only $366,000 at the age of 65, why should we not beleive Palin’s income? Those who shield glass houses (and that is what you are doing, ABC:) should not throw stones)
Posted by: ms | October 4, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Who Cares what europe thinks..
Europe has brought 2 world wars, genocide, facism, etc.. in the last 100 years.
Obama should run for president of europe.
Posted by: fuel rod | October 4, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
NO WAY NO HOW NO OBAMA
im not saying he dosint care he just dose not get it
McCain/Palin’08
Hillary 2012
http://news-express.weebly.com
Posted by: john prince | October 4, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
The Palins are a new breed of the Beverly Hillbillies thats all. Come and listen to a story of a chick name Sarah, a girl so tough she could shoot a polar beara…
Posted by: Bobba | October 4, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
I think Obama and Michelle would be no good for America. McCain would be better, but i would like to see Bush continue as president.
Posted by: Moe | October 4, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Their income seems small for a family with five kids, two houses, a sea plane, and the ability to purchase a tanning bed. Something’s missing.
Posted by: cincyr | October 4, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
I think Palin shouldn’t pay any taxes, as long as she does not open her mouth, every time she speaks my ears hurt, I have no idea what the hell she is saying…
Posted by: matt | October 4, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Posted by: wanamakerbeautiful | Oct 3, 2008 11:29:28 PM
If you were the boss, who would you hire???
______________________________
Most definitely not anybody with a law degree. Can you get any slicker then being a lawyer?
Posted by: princess | October 4, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
john prince as Uncle jed Clampett and Sarah Palin as Eliemay and Todd as Jethro. Oh we forgot Cindy as Jane hathway and John McCain asMr Drysdale. Hahahahahahaha. The comedy of the year. Oooops, The McCain campaign is already a comedy act. ROFLMAO
Posted by: My Name is NoBody | October 4, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
John Prince, You really should keep blogging for Mccain. I really think its good for him. Just a hint here man but how many colleges have you been in for the last 6 years that you dont know how to spell does and doesn’t. Your Sarahs kinda people.
Posted by: SemperFi | October 4, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Moe, Please take my advice and get on the next plane to timbuktu!
Posted by: mitch | October 4, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Oh goodness gracious, more much ado about nothing, more biased digging by the media. Ok then, if you are going to be this detailed about Palin, who has only been on teh campaign for 5 weeks, then be FAIR, and do similar digging for Obama:
– where are his illinois state senate records?
– His Columbia university grades? How did he get into Harvard?
– His whereabouts on Nov 6-7, 1999, where Larry Sinclair alleges they had a meeting?
– His real birth certificate from the day he was born?
So, media, I give you this challenge. Will you do your job and investigate this man, who is dangerously close to being our president,a nd we know nothing about him?
Or do you consider that racist?
Posted by: liberati | October 4, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Oh God, here we go with the damned media spin. They of course turn a positive (the fact that she really is far more mainstream, average American than Obama who made $4 million last year) into a negative. They divert it away from the fact that she makes less than all of the other candidates and instead once against spin it around to make her look bad and criminal.
Everything Palin does is twisted into a bad thing by the media.
At the same time, they totally ignore all of Obama’s innumerable truly BAD associations, lies, inconsistencies.
It’s utterly ridiculous.
Posted by: jasoninpa10 | October 4, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Sarah Palin could not have been in a college amateur sex video titled “Nailin’ Palin” since her last name in college was “heath.”
Having said that, the McCain/Palin ticket is the worst thing that could happen to this country. It will finish what the terrorists started.
Posted by: growup | October 4, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
An emergency appeal was filed with the Alaska Supreme Court, after Judge Michalski ruled Thursday that the investigation should move forward,
They’re asking the state’s high court to decide by the close of business today whether it will hear their appeal.
The action comes the day after Anchorage Superior Court Judge Peter Michalski threw out their lawsuit attempting to halt the Legislature’s investigation of what’s known as Troopergate. The suit was filed on behalf of a group of Republican state legislators who oppose the investigation.
Texas-based Liberty Legal Institute and Anchorage attorney Kevin Clarkson, representing the group of anti-investigation legislators, want the state Supreme Court to decide their appeal by Thursday.
Tell me this woman has nothing to hide. This is plain and simple just another attempt to hide the truth. What a crook she is.
Posted by: My Name is NoBody | October 4, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Jasoninpa10? They pay attention to her $$ because it doesn’t matter if you make $4 mil or $100K, if you cheat and lie on your taxes, then you break the law. I hope they scour them with a fine-tooth comb. We already know she failed to report nearly $17,000 in gifts.
Also, the reason why the media “ignores” all of Obama’s so-called “bad” associations, lies and inconsistencies is because they themselves are lies, myths and inconsistencies.
You can’t just make ***t up about people and expect everyone to believe it. You may prefer to keep your hands over your eyes, but every single lie you guys tell about Obama has been DEBUNKED a gazillion times over.
You’d think you’d give it up by now. or, how about this, simply “grow up”?
On the other hand, I am SOOO waiting to for the release of the documents and materials that go into detail about McCain’s having broke under torture and produced propaganda for the Viet Cong.
Posted by: growup | October 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
The state legislators whose names appear on the appeal are Wes Keller, Mike Kelly, Fred Dyson, Tom Wagoner, Carl Gatto and Bob Lynn.
Judge Michalski, in dismissing their lawsuit Thursday, ruled the conduct of the Legislature’s investigation did not violate the right to fairness.
He found much of the argument against the investigation is not for the courts to decide but is rather “business to be left to the legislative branch.”
The judge Thursday also threw out the argument of Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg, a Palin appointee attempting to quash subpoenas ordering state officials to testify in the investigation.
Posted by: My Name is NoBody | October 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Liberati, I thought you went back under that rock you crawled out from. You must have just taken a nap to get your slime powers rebuilt. You are truly insane, you know? Factcheck earlier told us about the birth certificate and verified its existence, but of course in your mind fact check is in it with Obama, part of the coverup. I suppose the Illinois Senate is in on the big O conspiracy too, and both of those hallowed learning institutions are clearly covering for him as well. And as far as Larry Sinclair is concerned I could really care less because hes not a threat to anyone. Now please go away and clean your slime trail up behind you.
Posted by: SemperFi | October 4, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
I wonder why ABC or any other media outlet hasn’t picked up on thsi story from Alaska. Why are the big media networks afraid to tackle the truth when it comes to the McCain and Palin ticket. There is way to much integrity issues with these two candidates, especially Palin if she used her office for a vendatta against someone and also what is Todd Palin doing taking part in Government business when he has no authority to do so.
Posted by: My Name is NoBody | October 4, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Per Diem should not normally be taxed. I travelled extensively for the Federal Government over a 30 year period and received perdiem pay to cover the expenses while on the road. Sometimes, it was flat rate. XXX dollars per day. At other times, there were XXX dollars per day + the cost of the hotel room. I was never required to include that money in my taxable income and it would have been financially devastating to my family if we had. Only the very very cheap make money off the perdiem income. For most, you are lucky to break even. This is different than the tax code that says you can not deduct the mileage from your domicile to your office. Let’s be real here, she is not jumping in her car and driving home. I would hazard a guess most of the Senators and HRep. guys get travel bucks for a certain number of visits back and forth to their home districts–they should! You Obama maniacs are really reaching to make the perdiem money an issue. Also, a lot of government functions do entail family accompanyment. This IS a hazy area, but, it is done by both parties consistently. Rational levels of family inclusion are quite ok, excessive are not, but, the line is tough to draw.
Posted by: dwath | October 4, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
None of you are ‘concerned’ about Palins taxes. None of you are ‘concerned’ about the LIES Mc Cain or Palin told. You already decided long ago to support Obama so you are being sociopathic idiots trying to figure out how to pick apart the negatives of Obama’s opponent.
None of you are ‘concerned’ about the LIES Obama or Biden told. You decided a long time ago to support Mc Cain so you act like sociopathic idiots trying to pick apart Mc Cain’s opponents.
Posted by: infoseeking | October 4, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
“The campaign also issued an advisory letter dated September 30, 2008 by Washington tax attorney Roger M. Olsen stating that: “she is entitled to meal and incidental allowance payments when away from her duty station and tax home performing services for her employer; it is not relevant that she spends the night at her family home rather than in government paid lodging.”
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OK So even if this was true, which is probably NOT or unconstitutional, she found a loop-hole and made it legal.. IT’S STILL WRONG!
Spin it MacKie!
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Oh goodness gracious, more much ado about nothing, more biased digging by the media. Ok then, if you are going to be this detailed about Palin, who has only been on teh campaign for 5 weeks, then be FAIR, and do similar digging for Obama:
– where are his illinois state senate records?
– His Columbia university grades? How did he get into Harvard?
– His whereabouts on Nov 6-7, 1999, where Larry Sinclair alleges they had a meeting?
– His real birth certificate from the day he was born?
So, media, I give you this challenge. Will you do your job and investigate this man, who is dangerously close to being our president,a nd we know nothing about him?
Or do you consider that racist?
Posted by: liberati | Oct 4, 2008 12:27:42 AM
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Go do your own homework Brystol! lol!
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Those tax returns should have been audited by the IRS! Specifically, a “lifestyle audit” should be done to determine how that income results in a 6000+ square foot lakefront home and a private seaplane at the dock out back.
Posted by: Dema | October 4, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
get great Palin Stuff at http://www.sarahpalinhasaposse.com
Posted by: dlw | October 4, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Hey liberati , listen up you Lame brain idiot. First of all, Obama has no issues that can’t be verified and checked out. All these garbage lies you keep spewing have been factchecked and debunked. Palins’ troopergate is a legal investigation started by none other then herself way before she was picked for VP which she is now avoiding when she openly admitted that she would fully cooperate with. Big difference lame brain. If this woman has nothing to hide, the why try to stall and get this investigation stooped. One reason and one reason only. Shes GUILTY and knows it. Not only will she lose in the election, but when she retuns to Alasks, she’ll be facing criminal charges there and probably be impeached. And that is one thing I really want to see. This woman isn’t fit to run any office let alone a Koolaide Stand
Posted by: My Name is NoBody | October 4, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Dwath, The issue isnt the amount of money. The issue is she was dishonest in the way she reported or failed to, and the fact that she used the office to her personal advantage.
Posted by: Fairfax | October 4, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Anybody from Texas?
Palin just called Texas “little sister state” to Alaska.
Posted by: doug | October 4, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
You Betcha!
Posted by: Fairfax | October 4, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
I hope Obama gets elected. This country deserves it. A person at the end of their rope has to hit rock bottom before they can get their life together. I hope after living under his rule America will realize we have to make better decisions before we hit that pipe or bottle. He is what you inhaled.
Posted by: David C | October 4, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Hey bekumbokem,
Who are you calling lazy? Most Democrats are hard working middle class people who don’t expect any hand outs from the government or anyone else! What if I said “Republicans are a bunch of spoiled “privileged” people who feel the middle class is beneath them”. My family is hardworking and have many members who have served in the military – including my Dad who fought in WWII. So before you cast dispersions and stereotype a class of people because they choose the opposite political party, you better look at your own self first!
Posted by: Kimo | October 4, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
People are demanding to see Obama’s college and law school GRADES???
How about McCranky producing his complete military and medical records?
Don’t hold your breath waiting for them.
Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | October 4, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
David C, This country deserved the dictator G. W. Bush, and he is the one who put us at rock bottom. Livin under his “rule” kept us addicted to hate and war, and used up all our money on that addiction. He was the lesson we had to learn and after inhaling his nasty vapors for so long we are now ready to be rehabbed by Obama. We have learned our lesson and shall not smoke repugcrack again! It is time to straighten up and fly right!
Posted by: SemperFi | October 4, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
BP owns the Palin family. From the returns he gets his real job check from BP Alaska, Woodlands,Tx. He claims he spends over 20 hours in his own home working on his fishing business paperwork or is it his racing business. Face it he races for fun and claims it as is a business, so I have a golf business, and I am getting a golf cart so I can write it off. Note he writes off two telephones one for each of the teen age daughters? The Palins file late every year. What’s with that.
Oh, please, John McCain, what have you done? Give them a couple of cars and pay off their $350,000 home. You know they cannot afford the payments. Give this Palin family some money so they can stop cheating on their returns and keep Palin out of jail. She is too old to join the service to stay out of jail, and what would the Big Oil Company BP do with out the dumb dude..
Posted by: Obser vant | October 4, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
BP Alaska, Woodlands , Tx. eh? So THATS what she meant when she said texas was alaska’s little sister state.
Posted by: grumpybumpy | October 4, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Hey bekumbokem,
What if I told you I made over $250,000 a year because I am a hard worker and am a law-abiding citizen? What if I told you I was glad to pay the extra taxes “because it was fair”? I pay taxes because I want police and fire services in my hometown? I want my child to go to college so he can also have a good life? Based on what the Republicans have done the past 7.5 years, it is evident that they are fiscally irresponsible, and feel they are above the law by ignoring subpoenas.
Posted by: Kimo | October 4, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
All in the Family..
Posted by: Fairfax | October 4, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
you know what, I’m also TIRED of them trying to buy my vote with tax cuts.
I’ve lived in many countries in my lifetime (yeah I’m ashamed of myself! NOT)
and I’ve seen what happens when we don’t pay our taxes. And Ive seen what happens when we pay A LOT of taxes.
this UTOPIA some people speak of, its ridiculous. and obviously she, er, they are solely interested in the dumbasses who are so below comprehension levels that they’ll actually get swayed by these false promises.
you’re darn right it’s patriotic to pay taxes. GO for those who dont, and do something. instead of promising stuff based on LIES (I gave my poeple in wasilla a HUGE DEBT lol)
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
My point is you do not report per diem!
I am not going to try to parse her tax records. I will leave that to the experts. But, what I see here is searching for very small needles in very large hay stacks. I pay a book keeper monthly and an Accountant annually to help me keep my income and expenses straight so I can file taxes. I try very hard to be correct when filing my taxes, but, it is very confusing and difficult to do so. Mistakes are easy. (My business is actually fairly straight forward so I can imagine if it were more complicated.) If we are going to find fault here, why do we not look carefully at Obama’s land deal which has never been adequately explained. Let’s wonder where Biden put all the money he earned over the past 30 years. With his income and stationary life, it is inconceiveable to me that he is worth only 300k or so w/ most of that in his home. I moved about 20 times in the course of my 26 years (30 as I said before is rounded) and lost money every time. I was only a MSG (e8) when I retired from the service. I did attain GS12 in the 5 years I worked as a civilian. But, I have just a bit less net worth than Biden. If he can not manage his money better than that, do we want him managing ours?
Posted by: dwath | October 4, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
We, as the people who are supposed to be the Boss here in America, with the government working for us, it seems if a candidate for presidency has served in the miltary under us, we should have full access to his military records. He worked for us and his service record is relevant, especially if he is adamant about it not being released. Why is he so adamant? What is he hiding? These should be released before anyone even begins to question Obamas personal records.
Posted by: JJ | October 4, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
Very true, he should be open about his military records, he is proud of his service, I assume. He should proudly present them to us and smile as he does it, and it would maybe put a big cherry on the top of his candidacy. Perhaps there is something he isnt so proud of?
Posted by: Jo | October 4, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
If you all vote for Obama your idiots. Do your homework, research Obama. Once you find out the truth, there is no way you would vote for him. He is Anti American. He will say and do anything to get into the Whitehouse. If you love American and are Patriotic you will NOT vote for Obama. If you do not like America and your unpatriotic well then Obama is your man.
Posted by: J | October 4, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
” I’ve been disappointed lately by so many women who represent women’s rights (NOW, NARAL) and women in power positions dumping all manner of foul abuse on Hillary and now Palin. But I agree that it’s primarily the Old Boys Club mentality, that carries an extreme amount of fear of women in power, that is still so strong. Of course, Barack Obama and his army seem to carry little regard for the real intelligence and insight of women. They don’t even try to hide their distaste.”
Former Hillary Supporter
Are you a Democrat that thinks Barack Obama is an empty suit? Then come to:
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Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
See! She’s just Joe Sixpack, mainstream like all the rest of us out here making close to a quarter of a million dollars every year. Puh-leez. Can we stop with the hokey charade now and just admit she’s a typical sleazoid politician like all the rest?
Posted by: Michele | October 4, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
How can he expect to be promoted to CEO of the company without showing his personnel records of his accomplishments as an employee? No company would do that. We are his Boss and we need to see his records of what he did when he worked for us. Mccain needs to show us hes honest. The longer he stalls this the worse it will become.
Posted by: JJ | October 4, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
(Private and Personal for Hillary Supporters) the rest go talk among yourselves.
I was and still am a Hillary Supporter. I trust her and plan to follow her lead.
I personally do not like Obama. I particularly do not like his handlers,Axelrod,Kennedy and the big fish, the richest man in the Senate John Kerry.
I did not make up my mind to vote for Obama until last week. Our country desperately needs a Democrat to lead us.
If you have read George Stepanopalis (sic)book, President Clinton would talk to many people with conflicting views and then make up his mind. It seems Obama follows this general path in making decisions.
So please do not hurt our country, take Hillary’s advice and realize it is not about individuals.It is what we, as her supporters, must do for OUR country.
Hope all of you will help elect Democrats. Take your hurt, energy,vengeance out on Kerry, stop buying Heinz products to make him richer. He could not win so it appears he wants to live vicariously through Obama.
Obama will listen to many before making decisions, as Senator Biden mentioned he wants him at all meetings.
Please vote for what is BEST for our Country. Our Country needs you NOW!
Regards
Posted by: Put your Country First | October 4, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Yeah a sleazoid like Obama whose tax return said: Obama’s’ income was $983,826 in 2006, 1.9 million in 2007
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
The roughly $17,000 in state-issued per diems for Gov. Palin is the same for city, state, federal and military. I fail to understand why for Gov. Palin it is different. I have been doing tax returns for about 25 years and this is perfectly legal and above board.
I’m not a Palin supporter, but to nit-pick on a this subject is silly and someone has very little or no knowledge of the tax code.
ABCnews is continually out to get McCain/Palin, this is very sad. The news media should report all news, not force and opinion on the voters.
Ralph Nader, the real choice !!!
Posted by: Johnny in Jacksonville | October 4, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
J, Fear tactics seem to work well for you repugnants, so you roll them out again, and even put a little unpatriotic icing on that cake. Sorry we are full from eating Karl Roves confectionary, and simply cannot stand any more of your fruitcake. He wont be drinking any of that kool-aid either.
Posted by: Fairfax | October 4, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
….WILLIAM AYERS…..MARXISM…..FRANKLIN RAINES…..A.C.O.R.N……….REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT…..CHICAGO THUG POLITICAL MACHINE…….FANNIE MAE……TONY REZCO…….
Posted by: BlofeldBuildings | October 4, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Big mac, filet o fish, quarter pounder, french fries,…
Posted by: Fairfax | October 4, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
The Party Unity My Ass un-Party (PUMA) was born June 1, 2008. We already have many new members. But, some of you may ask, what does it mean? How can we make a difference? Before I get to that, I’d like to refer you to one of Anglachel’s latest posts, The Idea of Obama. I think that what Anglachel is describing is a kind of “puppy love” or an infatuation. The situation we have here is precisely the reason why superdelegates were created in the first place. There is a unacknowledged immaturity about the Obama faction that many parents among us will recognize.
Former Hillary Supporter
Are you a Democrat that thinks Barack Obama is an empty suit? Then come to:
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SAY NO TO OBAMA
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
Blofeldbuildings, Why didnt you just say n*gger as well, since Im sure thats the main word associated with him that bothers you most. Come on you coward, your hiding behind an assumed name, be honest.
Posted by: Bobba | October 4, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
The IRS stated this was non-income and she saved thousands of dollars from previous governors.
What is the problem? The IRS agreed and she saved the people of Alaska a huge sum of tax dollars and then an Obama attonery complains.
The people of Alsaka owe her a “thank you” and the Obama campaign owes the Governor a big “Excuse my stupidity, I work for Obama”.
Enough Said…
Posted by: Richard in Orange Park | October 4, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
LOL! You morons trying to blow off the Obama birth certificate issue as a done deal! Note, factcheck got it wrong, and NO, factcheck is NOT nonpartisan, it is run by the Annenberg foundation, with long ties to the Obama campaign. You do know what the Annenberg challenge is, don’t you? Something, and really the only thing, that Obama chaired, and yet he never ever talks about, because it was a collosal failure and associated with Ayers, the terrorist? Look it up, it is truly creepy.
Berg has a lawsuit in PA about the birth certificate, and you know what? Instead of just producing the darn thing and getting it over with, the Obama campaign has chosen to try to dismiss the case!
Why go to that much trouble? why not just produce the BC? Note, the factcheck people have produced a REPRINT, dated 2007! Not the real article.
What is Obama trying to hide?
LIke I said, creepy. YOu can insult me all you want, but do you really think the GOP and the good people of America are going to let the Obama -trash-fraud get elected to teh highest office in the land? There are still people in this country who believe in America, you know.
So, what do you say, media? are you going to do your job, and INVESTIGATE? You will be embarassed when this comes out full throttle, and you chose to ignore it.
Posted by: liberati | October 4, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
…..$165,000 TAKEN FROM FANNIE MAE……JIM JOHNSON……MOST LIBERAL SENATOR…….MORE TAXES FOR THE RICH AND FOR AMERICAN CORPORATIONS……’NO’ TO DOMESTIC DRILLING……..ILLEGAL MEETING WITH MALIKI, DISCUSSING TROOP WITHDRAWAL, IN CLEAR VIOLATION OF U.S. LAW………
Posted by: BlofeldBuildings | October 4, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
She was being dishonest. This is what bothers us most. The numbers dont match up. This is an issue because we have had 8 years of a dishonest blowhard and we dont need another. She has been called Bush in a skirt, and this is proving it. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck…
Posted by: grumpybumpy | October 4, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
bobba…you STUPID moron. are you yet another loser throwing in the race card? get this straight….most people HATE Obama because he is a fraud and a liar. STOP playing the race card, stop being the victim, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for once in your life!
Posted by: doublestandards | October 4, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Obama’Stax return said: Obama’s’ income was $983,826 in 2006, 1.9 million in 2007
YEP SOUNDS LIKE MAIN STREET
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
Uh, lets see. Yes I think the good people of America dont buy this malarky about Obama being some kind of terrorist or subversive. Its all smoke from a Repugnant pipe. Its plain fear tactics and its not gonna work, and its not working obviously because Obama is winning this campaign. McCain is too dishonest, and his Karl Rove followers simply are played out. Went to the well too often on the fear factor. We arent buying the bannana in the tailpipe trick.
Posted by: grumpybumpy | October 4, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
She is stealing.
If it were a democrat or OBAMA avoiding $1.00 in taxes there would be a MEDIA CRUSADE.
If it were a democrat or OBAMA avoiding SUBPOENAS upheld by a superior court judge they would send federal marshals for him.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IS A FACT JACK!!!
Posted by: truth | October 4, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
What makes you think “most people hate Obama”? I see him ahead in the polls, so most people seem to hate McCain and especially that idiot Palin. Shes dumber than a box of rocks. So stuff it up your arse you loser.
Posted by: Bobba | October 4, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
NO CHARITABLE DONATIONS!!! She just took a deduction for some junk she gave to the salvation army.
Well, darn it, that’s just disgraceful.
Posted by: LarryP | October 4, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
……DUBIOUS BIRTH CERTIFICATE……MUSLIM HALF-BROTHERS IN KENYA, INDONESIA AND ELSEWHERE……GOVERNOR BLAGOJEVICH……TALKS WITH AHMADINEJAD WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS…….MILLION$$$ IN ILLEGAL, OVERSEAS CAMPAIGN DONATIONS……..LARRY SINCLAIR…….RAMPANT COCAINE AND MARIJUANA USE……….
Posted by: BlofeldBuildings | October 4, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
Doublestandard, If you are saying that there arent alot of racists who wont vote for him because hes black you are completely off your rocker. They have done blind polls where alot of people, democrats included say that his being black is a factor in their not supporting him.
Posted by: Bobba | October 4, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
McCain has zero chance of winning. Sorry Repugnants. Maybe next time.
Posted by: mitch | October 4, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
4 CRASHED MILTARY JETS COSTING THE TAXPAYER MILLIONS…KEATING 5….BOTTOM OF HIS CLASS AT THE ACADEMY…DEREGULATING TO CAUSE THE RECESSION…VIOLATED SERVICEMANS OATH BY COLLABORATING WITH THE ENEMY…SAID BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN….THREATENED FELLOW SENATORS WITH PHYSICAL VIOLENCE…CHEATED ON WIFE WITH DRUG FIEND…1 IN 5 CHANCE OF DYING IN OFFICE LEAVING A COMPLETE MORON AS POTUS…
Posted by: mitch | October 4, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
“It’s an identity thing, and they’ll never vote Republican. They don’t get that I am dedicated to cleaning UP my own party….and that voting Obama is the worst thing for the Democratic Party’s future. They all buy into the fear-mongering that we won’t “survive” another 4 years of Republican rule.”
ARE YOU A FORMER HILLARY SUPPORTER?
DO YOU THINK THAT BARACK OBAMA IS THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE THAT THE DNC HAS EVER PUT ON THE TICKET SINCE CARTER?
ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT WHO IS TRIED OF BARNEY FRANK AND NANCY PELOSI? DO YOU FEEL THAT THE DNC IS NOW A JOKE?
Come to PUMA- The Confluence
WHERE THE SMART WOMEN HANG OUT.
NO OBAMABOTS ADMITTED
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Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
……DUBIOUS BIRTH CERTIFICATE……MUSLIM HALF-BROTHERS IN KENYA, INDONESIA AND ELSEWHERE……GOVERNOR BLAGOJEVICH……TALKS WITH AHMADINEJAD WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS…….MILLION$$$ IN ILLEGAL, OVERSEAS CAMPAIGN DONATIONS……..LARRY SINCLAIR…….RAMPANT COCAINE AND MARIJUANA USE……….
Posted by: BlofeldBuildings | Oct 4, 2008 2:23:39 AM
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thanks GOD he can’t run for a third term… pheww!
Posted by: GIGI | October 4, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
God darn it could you Liberals find a freakin life? For God sake her damn income and tax money that she owes (if any)is not even anywhere near these Washington politician’s one night travel expense. Everytime after she slams the Dems and the Leftists in the face, there has to be something bad about her that does not matter to a rat’s ass.
Posted by: vegas | October 4, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am
God darn it could you Liberals find a freakin life? For God sake her damn income and tax money that she owes (if any)is not even anywhere near these Washington politician’s one night travel expense. Everytime after she slams the Dems and the Leftists in the face, there has to be something bad about her that does not matter to a rat’s ass.
Posted by: vegas | October 4, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am
Gov. palin’s income is small change to the other 3 contendors. The deductions are legal or the Obama campaign with their 100 lawyers and investigators in Alaska would have been in the IRS office in a heartbeat.
If Gov. Palin didn’t turn in her money for chairty on her tax form, that’s her business, is not illegal!
It’s sad the Obama media has already condemed the Palin’s, but the taxes paid could, very well, be perfectly legal.
ABCNEWS – your guilty until proven innocent, but your still guilty.
Posted by: carlson | October 4, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am
MORE PROOF THAT OBAMA SUPPORTERS DRINK KOOL AID AND LOOK LIKE A NAZI DRILL TEAM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0d1_1222994202
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
ABC-NEWS why isn’t this story about Obama and the lawsuit against him and the DNC being covered? But, your not biased, ya right!
Obama went against the Federal Judge and refused to produce his “vault” (original long version) Birth Certificate, his Certificate of Citizenship and his Oath of Allegiance taken by Obama taken at the age of majority.
Looks like Obama is voting “present” again when it comes to compliance with the Federal Judge!
Google: Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
Obama cooperate with the Federal Court or leave our country!!!
Posted by: Oren Young FL | October 4, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
bobba…..and a 95% black vote for Obama is also racist. So if black voters can vote for him because he is black, then white voters can vote for McCain because he is white. Racism is racism, it’s ugly all the way around.
The race card is a disgusting excuse. Trust that the majority of people not voting for Obama, is not because of the color of his skin, but because he is the WORST presidential candidate in recent history. Can you get that concept into your feeble victim mind? That there are good Americans in this country that hate Obama, and it has nothing to do with race?
I suppose that you will also say that OJ was found guilty because of his race too? LOL…..sorry, but Obama has used the race card so much, it no longer has value. Too bad, too, there are real cases of horrible racism that will now go ignored, all because of this fraud Obama.
Posted by: doublestandards | October 4, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
Hey Barracuda,
You and your “PUMA” organization make me sick! Why don’t you just come out and say you are a Republican voting for McCain/Palin and call it a day? Don’t pretend to have ever been for Hillary. As far as Obama’s income, so what that he makes over $1M a year – that in itself tells me is willing to pay the extra taxes “because it is fair”. He wants to give a tax break to the majority of the middle class. What is wrong with this country if we don’t pay our fair share of taxes? Look what happened with all these “tax cuts” that Bush enacted and McCain wants to extend. We are now paying for it tenfold in this “Bailout”. If everyone paid their fair share of taxes, we wouldn’t be in the crisis we’re in today!
Posted by: Kimo | October 4, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am
“As for charges of rAcism, if there’s one thing this election season has shown, it’s the desperate need of so many on the left to prove their Impeccable Liberal Credentials by hurling accusatory remarks at others on the left. It’s no wonder we have only the shreds of a political party remaining.”
ARE YOU A FORMER HILLARY SUPPORTER?
DO YOU THINK THAT BARACK OBAMA IS THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE THAT THE DNC HAS EVER PUT ON THE TICKET SINCE CARTER?
ARE YOU SICK OF BEING CALLED A RACIST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT SUPPORT “THE CHOSEN ONE”, MAN CHILD BARACK OBAMA?
ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT WHO IS TRIED OF BARNEY FRANK AND NANCY PELOSI? DO YOU FEEL THAT THE DNC IS NOW A JOKE?
Come to PUMA- The Confluence
WHERE THE SMART WOMEN HANG OUT.
NO OBAMABOTS ADMITTED
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
So how about that convicted felon Rezco funneling money to Obama and that Bill Ayes ,making him chair of a board overseeing ,millions of dollars that were supposed to be for education but actually furthered the radical agenda of Ayers and did nothing to improve education in Chicago? Just wondering.
I hear that Palin got some free facials when she was mayor, that’s so much more important.
Posted by: s.b. | October 4, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am
MORE PROOF THAT OBAMA SUPPORTERS DRINK KOOL AID AND LOOK LIKE A NAZI DRILL TEAM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0d1_1222994202
OMG – - More nutjobs for Obama! Well it’s nice to see he has the support of the incarcerated. Trouble is, inmates can’t vote.
Posted by: BlofeldBuildings | October 4, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am
“ABOUT PUMA: Most of us are lifelong Democrats, some are more liberal and dedicated to public service than any of these the so called democrats who are voting for Obama. We are 18million strong. There are Republicans here who have shown more respect for Hillary Clinton than any of the Obamabots have in the last year. I am so sick of this election but I’m glad that it happened because once I found out who these people really were, I unsubscribed from the DNC”
ARE YOU A FORMER HILLARY SUPPORTER?
DO YOU THINK THAT BARACK OBAMA IS THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE THAT THE DNC HAS EVER PUT ON THE TICKET SINCE CARTER?
ARE YOU SICK OF BEING CALLED A RACIST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT SUPPORT “THE CHOSEN ONE”, MAN CHILD BARACK OBAMA?
ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT WHO IS TRIED OF BARNEY FRANK AND NANCY PELOSI? DO YOU FEEL THAT THE DNC IS NOW A JOKE?
Come to PUMA- The Confluence
WHERE THE SMART WOMEN HANG OUT.
NO OBAMABOTS ADMITTED
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Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
The Republicans have resorted to name calling and casting dispersions to anyone that disagrees with them. Hmmm, very civil, huh? I’m an Independent and a moderate, and it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the last administration was disastrous for this country and 4 more years of “Republican Rule” will be our demise…
Posted by: Kimo | October 4, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
Never mind the minor details of Obama working as a community organizer to expand ACORN, a foundation whose members have been brought up and convicted of voter registration fraud, or the fact the Obama has been in the tank with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two government-sponsored lending firms that have given bad loans willy-nilly to minorities and illegals, and have now collapsed the American economy so completely it’s already taking $800 billion of taxpayer money as bail out with more to come.
Never mind that. Sarah Palin has a TANNING BOOTH in her home! I know this because the Obama campaign sent 30 of their brightest up to Alaska to tear the lid off of it, and the media has reported it with GREAT RELISH!
I’d NEVER vote for someone who has a tanning booth in her home. Give me a crooked, slimy Chicago-politic THUG as president any day! That’s Short-Change I can BELIEVE in!
Posted by: BlofeldBuildings | October 4, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am
REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS! and Dave, you are absolutely correct! The tumbling house of financial cards at the moment is due in large part to demon-crats like Obama. The fact that Obama and his fellow demon-crats pork-barreled the $700B bailout with a 20% dividend to ACORN–the very organization on which Obama served as “Community Organizer,” and the very organization from which numerous individuals are going to jail across the country due to voter fraud–should speak loudly to anyone wanting to vote for a person of integrity. For the press, the demon-crats and the Obama Campaign, lambasting is perfectly acceptable as long as they are not the targets. Why won’t people wake up and smell the coffee? A week after 9/11 Americans would have been furious at the suggestion of a presidential nominee with the kinds of terrorist ties that Obama has. Yet he has currently been seen reading a book about the downfall of the US from a Muslim perspective. “Audacity of Hope?” America does not need the kind of audacity he’s selling.
N’Obama bin-Biden!
Posted by: Voice_of_Reason | October 4, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
“Former Hillary Supporters are talking about how offensive Obama and his campaign have been and about how McCain, unlike Obama, pays the women in his office as much as men AND put a women on the ticket. Then tell women that they don’t have to tell anyone that they’re voting for McCain – they don’t have to tell their husbands, their sons, or even the pollsters. In fact, they can tell everyone what they want to hear and then vote as they want. There many of us keep our mouths shut about wanting to vote this way or that, because we don’t want to hear the grief we’re going to get if we state our preference. There will be an upset in New Hampshire. As PUMA’s we would much rather run against McCain in four years than Obama. There is a surprise for you OBAMA. The Puma’s have been telling pollsters that they are for OBAMA, but we are voting Mccain/Palin. Our gift to you. We cannot wait to see your face Obama when you lose in November”
ARE YOU A FORMER HILLARY SUPPORTER?
DO YOU THINK THAT BARACK OBAMA IS THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE THAT THE DNC HAS EVER PUT ON THE TICKET SINCE CARTER?
ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT WHO IS TRIED OF BARNEY FRANK AND NANCY PELOSI? DO YOU FEEL THAT THE DNC IS NOW A JOKE?
Come to PUMA- The Confluence
WHERE THE SMART WOMEN HANG OUT.
NO OBAMABOTS ADMITTED
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Posted by: Barracuda | October 4, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
“Kimo” says: Look what happened with all these “tax cuts” that Bush enacted and McCain wants to extend. We are now paying for it tenfold in this “Bailout”. If everyone paid their fair share of taxes, we wouldn’t be in the crisis we’re in today!
Are you some kind of a NUT!? Do you even have a grasp of what you’re talking about? You do realize, don’t you, that it’s because of the Dumb-o-crats in Congress that we’re in this mess? People like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi, charged with overseeing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and repudiating the many efforts of Republicans to scale back their lending practices?
Because of STUPID liberal policies of always wanting to meddle in the economy and regulate everything so some poor, dumb minority or illegal somewhere can have a chance at the AMERICAN DREAM of owning a HOME has likely caused the downfall of our financial system. The Bush Administration and Senator McCain fought against this for YEARS but got nowhere with Congress. Do your research.
Posted by: BlofeldBuildings | October 4, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
I dislike Palin’s winks. I don’t think it’s appropriate to wink during presidential debate.
Posted by: leighg1 | October 4, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
In the original story (in Washington Post I think) about the travel allowance claim, there was only one line mention that Gov Palin’s travel allowance was 80 % less than the previous Governor. Should not that be the correct headline? After so much research if one can come up with only this much against her, it is time to accept that Gov. Palin may be less read but an honest politician doing a job well once she takes it up. There was an article in news section mentioning two errors of Gov Palin in the debate but not a single comment on Mr Biden’s facts.
More than the election result America should really worry about the way press has become totally one sided like a country with single party rule and controlled press
Posted by: akk | October 4, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Senator Mccain has clearly identified that the existing practices of “Republicans” are corrupted including himself, e.g. Palin’s faulty tax records, Interfering with troopergate case, inaccurate content in most of the campaign videoclips, predending that he stopped the camapign to work on bail-out plan (this is a real drama), strong underground connection with fox news channel dedicated for election campaign. These are a couple of examples
Can Senator McCain lead the majority of the middle class be an example? 7 houses, 13 cars – that’s not middle class – Ramya
Posted by: Ramya | October 4, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
Americans won’t care about this….WE DO CARE ABOUT A THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY….BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
Criminal ties, terriorist ties, racist ties…..UNACCEPTABLE! NO EXPERIENCE IN THE #1 SPOT….143 DAYS IN THE SENATE….RUNNING FOR PREZ. FOR 18 MONTHS DOES NOT COUNT…..THE CHICAGO MACHINE GOT BEHIND THE BLACK GUY AND THOUGHT THIS IS THE TIME TO YELL CHANGE (and kick Hillary in the teeth…the whole Party). Pelosi, Reid, Dean suck….hijacked one of the best candidates to ever come along…Hillary.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN.
Posted by: DLM | October 4, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am
“I dislike Palin’s winks. I don’t think it’s appropriate to wink during presidential debate.”
And I don’t think it’s appropriate for a Chicago-politic THUG with a Muslim name and a sh *t-eating grin, terrorist ties and direct complicity in the biggest financial meltdown in America’s history to be running for President of the United States. Oh but you’re so right – - Sarah Palin’s winks are of utmost importance and should immediately disqualify her.
By the way, leighg1…. are you an idiot?
Posted by: BlofeldBuildings | October 4, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
I agree with Julie’s comments above :
“Most [tax revisions] didn’t improve the system, they made it more like Washington itself: complicated, unfair, cluttered with gobbledygook and loopholes designed for those with the power and influence to hire high-priced legal and tax advisers”. — Ronald Reagan”
Are they “Mavericks?”
Can they reform wall street? Can Palin and McCain reform themselves first before Washington or Wall street?
Posted by: Amy | October 4, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
I agree with Julie’s comments above :
“Most [tax revisions] didn’t improve the system, they made it more like Washington itself: complicated, unfair, cluttered with gobbledygook and loopholes designed for those with the power and influence to hire high-priced legal and tax advisers”. — Ronald Reagan”
Are they “Mavericks?”
Can they reform wall street? Can Palin and McCain reform themselves first before Washington or Wall street?
Posted by: Amy | October 4, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
If media doesn’t start seriously looking into the character and judgement of the scarey Barack Hussein Obama within the next 30, they will have chosen our next Prez.
Fox News is going to start running bios about Obama…..much to his disappointment, as Fox news is #1 on cable….HAS BEEN FOR YEARS, as most Americans are right of center.
Liberal media should not be given the power to shove a candidate down our throats….we’re not all doing “blow” like Obama used to, or drinking the kool aid.
Biden had botox injected all over his forehead before the debates….he and Pelosi get a twofer discount.
Posted by: DLM | October 4, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
I agree with Julie’s comments above :
“Most [tax revisions] didn’t improve the system, they made it more like Washington itself: complicated, unfair, cluttered with gobbledygook and loopholes designed for those with the power and influence to hire high-priced legal and tax advisers”. — Ronald Reagan”
Are they “Mavericks?”
Can they reform wall street? Can Palin and McCain reform themselves first before Washington or Wall street?
Posted by: Amy | October 4, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
“Biden had botox injected all over his forehead before the debates….he and Pelosi get a twofer discount.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Sadly, that old bag is beyond the help of any botox. Her face lift was done years ago by a cheap plastic surgeon before she struck it rich (on the taxpayer’s dime) as Squawker of the House. Now she can afford the best but it’s too late! Hagsville!
I couldn’t agree more with you, DLM, on Obama’s character (or lack of), and how he just gets a free ride from the mainstrem media. But no more. Not only Fox, but the McCain campaign itself is going to do some serious exposes on his past, and it’s going to be ugly. Not as ugly as that dimwit dame Nancy Pelosi, but ugly enough to ruin his chances of ever getting his sad, corrupt, hen-pecked ass into the White House.
Aside from all of his illegal maneuvers, his shady associations with criminals and loudmouth reverends, and his jaw-dropping leftist, Socialist plan for the U.S. upon election, I just can’t stomach the idea of a Michelle-whipped “leader” of the free world.
Posted by: BlofeldBuildings | October 4, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
This brings Palin’s comments in the debate to mind, the one about paying taxes is not patriotic.
Posted by: FactFinder44 | October 4, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am
So,
There is the trooper-gate scandal.
(Allegedly committed abuse of governor power by S. Palin.)
Now,
There is tax-gate scandal?
O My God!
When is this going to end?
I hope after 4 week.
I will get a migrian if I hear about S. Palin scandals and lies for 4 more months let alone 4 more years.
She needs help.
Posted by: Saron | October 4, 2008, 4:33 am 4:33 am
This is why Palin waited so long to release her tax records. According to her tax returns, Sarah Palin should be investigated by the IRS in addition to being investigated for abuse of power in Alaska.
I’m fed up with the good ole boy cover-ups, tactics and corruption this campaign is using. John McCain is as dishonest, disgraceful and shameful a politician as they come…all the while wraping and wrapping and hiding himself in the American and POW flags.
John McCain and Sarah Palin have continually demonstrated they are not capable of honesty and integrity. Neither candidate is fit to lead this country based on their records and behavior.
Posted by: Molly | October 4, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am
You McCain and Palin supporters crack me up. Just how stupid are you? It’s sad what is happening to America and even sadder that so many support the continued downfall of the USA…
Posted by: Cheetah | October 4, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am
John McCain’s campaign is dying. He is doomed.
Posted by: euro.guy | October 4, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am
Palin is going to be the best Veep ever. McCain/Palin 08! Obamabots get some manners and quit being so boorish. Too many of you are very hateful people. Degrading people just because they don’t agree with you is just lame. Get some class and composure.
Posted by: AllAmerican | October 4, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am
This Palin Governor, cheating on her taxes? Ewwwww, Uncle Sam NO likey….
Lets see, is the letters T-R-U-T-H somewhere in that programmed mind of Palins?
Forget the OLD gossip about OBAMA. Come up with something NEW. (yawn)
Preferably something you didn’t “watch” delivered from good ‘old FOX. We don’t hear youuuu. (Yawn) lol
I about fell off my chair last night watching Keith Olbermann. He does his homework. FOX is desperate and makes up anything as they go along.
Hannity has me a bit concerned, he continues to hang onto the coattails of O’Reilly. Again Hannity, when are you going to create your own personality.
I watch O’Reilly, I tune into O’Reilly, I (sometimes) like O’Reilly,
“You’re NOT O’Reilly”
Posted by: Dianna | October 4, 2008, 5:26 am 5:26 am
Sarah Palin had to realize her entire life was going to be an open book to the World now, with her running for such a high position, and there would be many family personal affairs, that would be brought out into the limelight.
Even rumors that weren’t true about her would be broadcast to the public, and people would believe what they hear. I can’t understand why anyone, especially a mother of young children, would want to put themselves in this type of situation. “For what price is glory?”
Posted by: jms55 | October 4, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am
I don’t know about lowest earner but I do know she is the lowest achiever of any of the candidates. She is proud of her ignorance and lack of meaningful experience. She is typical of the George W. Bush mentality of being a dumb$^it and insolent about it.
Posted by: JLL | October 4, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am
Hey Molly, Them two (together) fit right in with the Washington “Good old boys.” (LOL)
Posted by: Dianna | October 4, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am
Interesting that ABC’s reporters failed to mention that her tax returns show that she gave considerably more to charity over the last two years than her Democratic (“The Party of Compassion”) rival Joe Biden. The reporters analysis is bogged down in the minutae of tax law (which is obviously subject to dispute) while they fail to state the obvious – Biden is cheap when it comes down to helping others with his OWN money while the Palin’s are far more charitable. Hypocritical MSM and Democrats!
Posted by: petee | October 4, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am
Viva la Barracuda?
McBush, must you insult the Spanish language. That was as “lame” as you can get!
Posted by: Dianna | October 4, 2008, 5:37 am 5:37 am
From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/joe-sixpack-speaks.html
Friday, October 03, 2008
Joe Sixpack Speaks
Come on in.
I prefer Joseph, really. It’s not a status thing. It’s just, you know, once I was walking down the street in Wasilla, it was all “Hey, Joe!” “Hey, Joey!”
Yes, that’s right, I don’t drop my “g”s. What is that, anyway? There is a “g” at the end of the word, after all.
The thing is, sure I like bowling, poker. But I also like Vivaldi, you know? It’s so condescending. It’s as if they’re trying to draw a caricature, a one-dimensional person for purely political purposes.
(Brushes hair back with his hand. Steam from radiator hisses softly in background)
And did you ever notice how the people who use the term “Joe Sixpack” are never from the lower class of the population themselves?
It’s an act, really, on their part, just a political vehicle, a means to an end. If I was working for her, and said just one thing the wrong way, you can be sure that ol’ Joe Sixpack would be canned just as fast as a load of Wasilla salmon.
Personally, I’d rather have someone who saw me as an actual person, not a political trope. They’re more likely to care about me and my kids’ needs, rather than using the false empathy designed to once again lure the middle and lower classes with populist appeals that are then brutally contradicted by their policies.
I mean, it’s as if they’re hoping that we’re stupid, so that we’ll fall for the same old empty words, and then they think we’ll just fall asleep again once they’re in office, while they cater to their buddies again, you know?
(Dog barks). Quiet, Bruno!
It’s like they create a symbol of a false humanity, in order to avoid dealing with our actual problems and needs. It’s like my foreman told me, who’s that guy, what’s his name, oh yeah, Dostoyevsky said: “A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies, becomes unable to recognize truth, either in himself or in anyone else.”
Anyway, I’ve got to get going. You can take the rest of the six-pack with you if you want. I’m giving the stuff up. Fogs the head, makes you vote for these opportunistic guys, you don’t hear what they really are saying.
Not this time.
This time, it’s going to be different.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/joe-sixpack-speaks.html
Posted by: Jana Walter | October 4, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am
None of you are ‘concerned’ about Palins taxes. None of you are ‘concerned’ about the LIES Mc Cain or Palin told. You already decided long ago to support Obama so you are being sociopathic idiots trying to figure out how to pick apart the negatives of Obama’s opponent.
None of you are ‘concerned’ about the LIES Obama or Biden told. You decided a long time ago to support Mc Cain so you act like sociopathic idiots trying to pick apart Mc Cain’s opponents
Posted by: infoseeking | October 4, 2008, 5:46 am 5:46 am
None of you are ‘concerned’ about Palins taxes. None of you are ‘concerned’ about the LIES Mc Cain or Palin told. You already decided long ago to support Obama so you are being sociopathic idiots trying to figure out how to pick apart the negatives of Obama’s opponent.
None of you are ‘concerned’ about the LIES Obama or Biden told. You decided a long time ago to support Mc Cain so you act like sociopathic idiots trying to pick apart Mc Cain’s opponents
Posted by: infoseeking | October 4, 2008, 5:47 am 5:47 am
Blofeld, are you a little jealous.
Doggoneit, Blofeld,
Nothing wrong with improving your appearance and taking some pride in yourself. We are now beyond the 19th century Blo.
By the way, McBush doesn’t look a day over 71 himself and thats okay. (Yawn)
Posted by: Dianna | October 4, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am
has anyone noticed how Sarah Palin look like the cartoon character Peggy Hill???
Posted by: banjo billy | October 4, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am
GET A BRAIN – STOP McCAIN!!!
Posted by: Independant American Woman | October 4, 2008, 6:22 am 6:22 am
QUIT STALLING – DROP PALIN!!!!!
Posted by: Independant American Woman | October 4, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am
STOP THE DRAMA – VOTE OBAMA!!!!!
Posted by: Independant American Woman | October 4, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am
jj wrote:
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
By Dylan on Sep 6, 2008 in US News |
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time? – Sarah Palin’s son Track Palin has joined the army to avoid going to prison.Track Palin is not going to Iraq because he is patriotic but because he was arrested,for vandalizing the brakes of a school bus,in order to avoid jail he enlisted himself in the army.Track Palin will be performing security duties for his brigade’s top officers in Iraq starting on September 11, 2008.That’s all we have for now on Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
WOW! There is so many weird things about these people. i don’t care that she had an affari – or that her kid got knocked up by a bully, nor that those kids are being paraded as a couple for politics, nor that she has no real love for ther new baby and contributed to his problem by working out at the gym and hiding her pregnancy for 7 months, nor that she is an air-head who can sway people by her looks – my probelm with Palin is that she LIES! She lies, and lies, and LIES! We’ve had ENOUGH of LYING politicans who are POWER HUNGRY and want to destroy the very fabric of our CONSTITUTION!
NO McCain! NO PALIN! NO WAY! NOT NOW – NOT EVER!!!
Posted by: Independant American Woman | October 4, 2008, 6:32 am 6:32 am
At least Palin didn’t buy a .30 stamp with a $20,000. check and get the change from the white house post office
Posted by: momroj | October 4, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am
Wow, I did not know that American regular Joe Sixpacks made that much money !!
Posted by: Martha | October 4, 2008, 7:07 am 7:07 am
If you want to complain about the last eight years, you also need to include the Senate and the House. I feel that it is the whole government process. The President doesnt make all of the decisions, remember it does have to go through the House and Senate before it ever lands of the Presidents desk.
So if you want to make a difference, start in the House and Senate of your area.
Posted by: vkspringer | October 4, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am
We pay for the house of reps to rent or lease cars which makes no sense to me. All of congress get too many perks at our expense. I say we throw all the bums out and run the country ourselves. The “By the People” part seems to mean by our tax money. Congress doesn’t agree on much, but there’s always two items where they vote 100% in agreement: Let’s have a pay raise and let’s go on vacation.
Posted by: Geezer | October 4, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am
Replace:
Your reasoning smacks of stupidity. So what if Obama has the middle name Hussein?
If he were friends with gays, would you call him gay as well?
You need an education. Go to college, dimwit!
Posted by: Gerard | October 4, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am
jj wrote:
Sarah Palin Son Track Palin Going To Iraq To Avoid Jail Time?
By Dylan on Sep 6, 2008 in US News |
You’re living on some acid filled alternate plane of reality moron. The military doesn’t do this and they haven’t since before the draft. Post a link where this can be verified or just shut the hell up. I think people here would prefer to debate the facts and issues, not National Enquirer articles.
Posted by: Mr Whiffle | October 4, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am
Thursday on Maury Povich:
“27 Eskimo’s tested and Still No Daddy”
Starring Bristol Palin
Posted by: dk | October 4, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
sorry but I couldn’t resist…
Posted by: dk | October 4, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
None of you are ‘concerned’ about Palins taxes. None of you are ‘concerned’ about the LIES Mc Cain or Palin told.
As if Obama or Biden haven’t lied. Politics=lies. How many elections have you followed in your life? Stretching the truth and outright lies in politics is as American as apple pie.
Posted by: Loser | October 4, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
National Enquirer articles can be good sometimes……….
“Aliens Kidnap Candidates and Switch Heads.”
Vote Barack McCain 2008………..
hehehehe
Posted by: goober | October 4, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am
National Enquirer articles can be good sometimes……….
“Aliens Kidnap Candidates and Switch Heads.”
Vote Barack McCain 2008………..
hehehehe
Yes sometimes it’s better than reading a comic book. The sad part is some people get their news from the tabloids and believe every word. Using the “They couldn’t print it if it weren’t true” logic.
Posted by: Lefty O'Doule | October 4, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
ABC sure has a lot of suggestions about some improprieties but these innuendos are not backed up by factual reporting. Do your job or go get one because you are just a tabloid espousing unsubstantiated rumors. Stop being so partisan, you are as bad as your competition CBS,(Can’t Be Sure)
Posted by: jim 234 | October 4, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
Osama Bin Laden would vote for Obama and all of you who would vote for Obama are just like Bin Laden. You want to destroy America. Who knows, you might just succeed. You know, what goes around comes around so go ahead and destroy America and see evil reign. Without America, starvation, death, and misery will be your reward for all this hard work you are doing for Osama, I mean Obama. No, I was right the first time.
Posted by: Rock | October 4, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
Stick an IRS agent up Obama’s a.s.s and let’s see what s.h.i.t he has.
Posted by: NMBP | October 4, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
I can’t believe there are pinheads still trying to make some claim about a birth certificate.
The rumor was debunked months ago.
Time to move on to your next false accusation.
Posted by: Fact Check | October 4, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
one question for me – not about taxes…why aren’t her kids in school?
If they do truly attend public school as she said in the debate why have they been travelling around with her these past 5 weeks?
Posted by: Mary | October 4, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Biden made over $300,000 last year and gave $995. Say it ain’t so Joe. How much did Palin donate, how about three times as much. Dem’s are quick to give away the public’s money but don’t ask them to lead by example. What’s with the crap about her kids, do you guys think you’ll win this race with lies? Did you ever hear of Rev,Wright or Rezko?
Posted by: Texan2112 | October 4, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Palin’s OBSTRUCTION of justice and her MISUSE OF POWER is enough to disqualify her.
Innocent people don’t hide. They usually want the truth to be known.
A BI-PARTISAN committee called for the investigation of Palin in Alaska. She agreed to cooperate until facts started surfacing that may indict her. Now she feels she is above the law and doesn’t have to respond to subpoenas?
Wow, how Cheney like.
Fortunately, a judge has said that Palin in all of McSame’s attorneys are not going to stop the proceedings.
Sad thing is that even if she is CONVICTED of abuse of power, some morons will still vote for her because “she’s so likable”.
Bad news for Plain (wink, wink, wink)
Posted by: Abuse of Power | October 4, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
Boy, the Pubs sure get mad every time more truth about Palin is released.
It’s funny that most people only heard her name for the first time a few weeks ago, yet they decided she was some ultra-sharp and “honest” person.
Of course the folks at the Republican convention would never lie to the American public right?
Palin will end up being the Democrat’s MVP before this is done.
She makes for good late night TV though. For comedy writers, she’s the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP - every time | October 4, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Truth Hurts the GOP – every time
Please it should be rumors hurt the gop because when we show democrats proof of how they put us in this mess Nobody seems to get it .The entire Democratic party should be arrested for the 700 billion that was just stolen from you and me
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am
We have been robbed and you thinks its going to be any better with Obama.He cant even do 1/10th of what his platform is
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
I love to read the comments for those in support of Palin. Rarely do you see anyone defend her qualifications or the accusations directly, but instead direct the arguement to others. (if you think she is unqualified, what about…..) Every candidate should be viewed for thier own merits. Forget the phony and trivial issues (e.g., 17 K in per diem or her kid) and focus upon her awareness of the issues. For my part, she simply does not understand the issues. And while she may claim to be a spokesperson for the middle class (which is fine by me), let us not fool ourselves into buying the claim that she now shares our financial stresses simply because she utters the pre-fed phrase of “joe six pack”. I’m amazed that a good share of us are perfectly comfortable electing someone who is 1) a good speaker; and 2) a good memorizer of bullet points. Now at this point, everyone will say “but what about Obama”? Fair enough and make your decision, but for me, Palin is akin to the lowest apple we can pull off the tree. Likeability does not equal wisdom. Folksiness and cuteness does not replace clear, clear lapses of understanding. For Mccain’s part, his inability to retreat from a decision most find to be unwise is simply an indicator of stubborness on future issues-even in the face of bad judgements to come. We can do better than this.
Posted by: cbot2255 | October 4, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
cbot2255,
I was with you right up till the end.I think it is unfair that there is no record for OBAMA.Palin has a record a proven record she You can not deny has done well by her people in alaska Obama has not even done well by his in Illinois.Where she is giving money back to people he is taking it away by the truckload HIGHEST SALES TAX RATE IN THE NATION
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE KEATING 5 SCANDAL THAT INVOLVED THE SAVINGS AND LOAN INDUSTRY, WHEN MCCAIN WAS A BAD MAN? COME ON FOLKS ANSWER THAT IT SHOULD BE HEADLINE NEWS NOW!!!
Posted by: jerry11111 | October 4, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Hey Dano:
I would love to see that movie! I would still vote for her! Hey at least if she did do it she was not in the White House getting a BJ as president of the United States! I also heard there is a tape of Obama coming out of the closet with a German Shepard wait till that get running all over the internet! You guys will do anything to bring someboday down! Remember what goes around comes around, afterall this is October!
Posted by: chuck | October 4, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
Give it up, Obama-haters. Once McLame and the ‘Cuda’ lose in November, you will have to swallow it and deal with it.
Funny thing is most of us will NOT forget your lies and smears. There is a cost a real cost for acting like pigs.
Boycott FOX NEWS for one. Boycott businesses of people that engage in this type of fearmongering campaigning.
Posted by: J.Diaz | October 4, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am
Obama didn’t lie about anything. McCain lied about almost everything.
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS! | October 4, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
jerry11111,
I do,I also remember he was not charged with any wrong doing by a committe of democrats it was said he excercised poor judgement.He did nothing other than make sure someone he knew was being treated fairly thats it.It was not like the tony rezko deal where a convicted criminal bought property to help someone by theres
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Palin’s incompetence is the final symptom of the GOP’s death throes. LOL
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 4, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS,
Heres the problem with you statement the DEMOCRATS ARE THE MAJORITY in the congress
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Dear “REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS!”
Do you have a mental problem? Obama has denied all of those items listed in your statements. Why pursue something which is untrue? You must be a person with limited means to go down a road that has been catagorically proved incorrect. Unless, you have anything of substance to say, go and sit in the corner and argue with yourself !! DA
Posted by: Nuetral101 | October 4, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
reddog – funny that you DON’T remember that McCain was cleared of wrongdoing only AFTER he agreed to testify in front of Congress. McCain cut a deal to save his skin and ratted out his fellow bribe takers. That doesn’t make him innocent, it just makes him a stool pigeon. One more strike against his character and honor if you ask me.
Posted by: Samoyed Steve | October 4, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Hey Did you guys here the one about just being robbed for 700 billion dollars and the criminals are going to run there own Investigation and hearings wow I wonder what the outcome will be??
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
reddog – so what? It’s not the Dems who have been the obstacle to progress in Congress. Look at the Congressional record and you’ll see that it was the GOP who opposed all meaningful legislation in the last two years. That’s why the Republicans need to be kicked out so the Dems have a veto-proof majority and can finally start fixing the GOPs messes without interference.
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS! | October 4, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Samoyed Steve ,
Yeah thats what it was he was afraid of our prision system if he did not testify you know cause I am sure its worse then having your arms pulled out of ther sockets by the viet kong.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
reddog – you talking about how Bush just socialized the country? It’s cool with me… now we can have some real oversight over the fatcats on Wall Street. The GOP just signed its death warrant. Socialism saved Capitalism when the free market failed. LOL
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS! | October 4, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS!
Do you know how the system works they are the majority they can without one vote from the republicans pass a bill in the congress.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
There’s nothing worse than a 40 ish woman acting cute!
Sarah, you’re old!
Posted by: Raymond - Seattle | October 4, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
reddog – oh I doubt he would have gone to Prison. I think what McCain was really afraid of was being disgraced and losing his seat in the Senate. Clearly it’s all about ego with him.
Posted by: Samoyed Steve | October 4, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Raymond – and she isn’t cute either. She’s got a serious butterface…
Posted by: Palin Blows Pigs | October 4, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS
Yeah he saved the system because the democrats forced banks to give loans and mortgages to people who could not afford to pay them and left us to pay the tab It easy to see what caused this mess who tried to fix it and who blocked it
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Just more evidence in my mind that the Palin’s are crooked. There is no way Todd Palin operated his businesses at a loss, and Sarah clearly was committing fraud with the expense reimbursements she submitted and received while living at home. The numbers are questionably low on all of her financial filings, in my estimation. I think it is obvious that she and her family are living much more affluently than they are claiming, and have no respect for their obligation to pay taxes like the rest of us.
Posted by: iamwomaninMI | October 4, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
I am really sorry I am not trying to attack anyone personally but the facts are this mess was caused by the clinton admin and when McCain and Bush tried to fix it people yelled foul It is all a fact
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
People You need to understand this we are footing the bill because banks were forced into lending money to people that did not deserve to have money lent to them
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am
you know you’re losers when McCain and Palin are the best that your party could produce to represent you.
Posted by: Jeremy - San Diego | October 4, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
reddog – Bullcrap. This mess was the result of 30 years of Republican deregulatory dogma – most specifically the Phil Gramm-led repeal of the Glass-Stegal Act. That’s the fact – can you even point to the relevant legislation that you’re trying to blame Dems for? Do you even know the facts behind it? Sorry, pal, but this crisis is about greedy banks passing bad paper onto each other, not about loans to minorities and other underserved groups. Your attempt to pass the blame off onto the poor is just pathetic and so are you.
Everybody knows this is a Republican mess – when are you fools going to learn to take some responsiblity for your mistakes? This is exactly why everyone hates you now.
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS! | October 4, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
Well do me a favor read this and tell me this is not forcing banks to loan to people that they should not have:
Clinton Administration Changes 1995
In July 1993 President Clinton asked regulators to reform the CRA in order to reduce paperwork and reward performance.[7] The CRA regulations were substantially revised and featured requiring numerical assessments to get a satisfactory CRA rating; using federal home-loan data broken down by neighborhood, income group, and race; encouraging community groups to complain when banks were not loaning enough to specified neighborhood, income group, and race; allowing community groups that marketed loans to targeted groups to collect a fee from the banks.[5]
During March 1995 congressional hearings William A. Niskanen, chair of the Cato Institute, criticized the proposals for political favoritism in allocating credit, micromanagement by regulators and concerns about bank losses and soundness, predicting they would be very costly to the economy. He predicted the primary long term effect would be to contract the banking system and recommended congress repeal the Act.[8]
Responding to concerns that CRA would lower bank profitability, a 1997 research paper by economists at the Federal Reserve found that “[CRA] lenders active in lower-income neighborhoods and with lower-income borrowers appear to be as profitable as other mortgage-oriented commercial banks”.[9]
Howard Husock, vice-president of the market-oriented conservative Manhattan Institute and author of a book on American housing policy, writes that once in effect, the new rules substantially increased the number and aggregate amount of loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers for home loans. The Senate Banking Committee estimated that as of 2000, as a result of CRA, such groups had received $9.5 billion in services and salaries. As of that time such groups also had received tens of billions of dollars in multi-year commitments from banks to loan to local communities, including ACORN Housing $760 million; Boston-based Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America $3 billion; a New Jersey Citizen Action-led coalition $13 billion; the Massachusetts Affordable Housing Alliance $220 million.[10]
According to a United States Department of the Treasury study of lending trends in 305 U.S. cities between 1993 and 1998, 467 billion dollars in mortgage credit flowed from CRA-covered lenders to CRA-eligible borrowers. The number of CRA mortgage loans increased by 39 percent. Other loans increased by only 17 percent
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
reddog – total crap. Please stop lying. The current fiscal meltdown is much more complex than what you claim and has more to do with the repeal of parts of the Glass-Steagall act that dealt with fiscal speculation than it did with people looking for loans. Don’t blame the victims of predatory lenders. Blame the lenders and the regulators who fell down on the job.
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
reddog – I read it. And it’s crap that bends the facts to support a false thesis. What’s your point and where did you get that nonsense? Seriously, what’s your source?
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS! | October 4, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
reddog – typical Republican with a “blame the victim/ protect the criminal” mentality. Does anybody buy this garbage anymore? Sorry, but everybody knows that this mess is the GOP’s fault.
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 4, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Fact Checker ,
You are right and wrong I want to blame the regulators.The fact is this The DEREGULATORS that you call republicans tried to regulate this and The democrats blocked it.The loan process that was made eaiser was causing a demand on the housing market which caused prices to rise Yes ther was predatory lending I agree
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Obama said U.S troops were raiding villages in afghanistan. The taliban shoot at u.s soldiers and use innocent civilians as cover. Obama has a fundamental misunderstanding of what our military is about.
It is a sick thought that Americans are going to elect someone like that as CIC.
Posted by: Jeff | October 4, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
reddog is in deep denial about his party’s culpability in the credit meltdown. You know how you can tell a Republican has already lost an argument? He starts blaming Clinton for everything! LOL
Posted by: lubricated cucumber | October 4, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
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Google Community reinvestment act in and check it I have nothing to gain in this what so ever .I have educated myself on the facts
GW Bush Administration Changes 2005
In 2002 there was an inter-agency review of the effectiveness of the 1995 regulatory changes to the Community Reinvestment Act and new proposals were considered.[5] In early 2005, the Office of Thrift Supervision (OTS) implemented new rules that – according to Congressional Democrats – substantially weakened the CRA.[15] This culminated when the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, and the Office of the Controller of the Currency put a new set of regulations into effect in September 2005.[16] In April 2005, a contingent of Democratic Congressmen issued a letter protesting these changes, as they undercut the ability of the CRA to “meet the needs of low and moderate-income persons and communities”.[15]
The regulations included less restrictive new definitions of “small” and “intermediate small” banks.[2] “Intermediate small banks” were defined as banks with assets of less than $1 billion, which allows these banks to opt for examination as either a small bank or a large bank.[16] Currently banks with assets greater than $1.061 billion have their CRA performance evaluated according to lending, investment and service tests. The agencies use the Consumer Price Index to adjust the asset size thresholds for small and large institutions annually.[5
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Didn’t Palin brag about her experience of being a small business owner?
Well golly gee will-a-kers, if she runs the country the way she and the 1st dude runs their small businesses, we’ll all be in trouble.
Posted by: jake mckenzie | October 4, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Republican state legislators, at the behest of the McCain campaign, have now filed an emergency appeal with the Alaska Supreme Court trying to shutdown the ‘Troopergate’ investigation. The plaintiffs (echoing the Bush v. Gore decision) claim “the plaintiffs and Alaskans will suffer irreparable harm” if the Branchflower report is released, as scheduled, next Friday, October 10th.
(the latest from Josh Marshall)
Posted by: Paige | October 4, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
reddog – do you seriously think that anyone is going to believe you when you try to paint the GOP as “Regulators”? You’ve got to be kidding me… That is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. Do you even know what your party believes in? Good grief! Just give it up already and take some responsibility for your party’s failed fiscal policies and stop trying to blame Democrats for your party’s mistakes.
Posted by: lubricated cucumber | October 4, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
lubricated cucumber
I Am not blaming him I am pointing out a fact I did not write this bill or propose this bill I am just relaying what I have found out.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
ABC, please do the American a favor.
EXPOSE A.C.O.R.N and Obama ties to this group.
Please Examine the $$$ that Obama has padded this group to help him STEAL the election. From OHIO, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida and God only know how many others Voter FRAUD registration that have been committed. I’ll betcha by the end, there are more votes than people who are “qualified” to cast their votes.
Yet, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC continue to IGNORE these problems.
As a matter of fact, ACORN is the ROOT cause of the current finacial meltdown.
Even, Clinton “ADMITTED” that his Adm. along with his DEMS failed to heed the warnings of the DEM/REP concerned about the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lending practices.
Posted by: Voter In America | October 4, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
reddog – google is a search engine, not a source.
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS! | October 4, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Voter in America – Complete crap. Please stop lying. Thanks!
Posted by: kim devitt | October 4, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
lubricated cucumber
But thats just it read it for yourself watch the video of barney frank finding that there is nothing wrong with fannie may and freddie mac the hearing was brought up by the republicans
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
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I know it is a search engine my point is it comes up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act here is the source
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
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Ther is also ample video of Barney Frank claiming Fannie and freddie are fine
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
reddog – too bad you are “relaying” a bunch of crap. How stupid do you think we are, anyway? Stop trying to blame Democrats for the Republicans’ mistakes and take some damn responsibility for your party’s failed fiscal policies. Deregulation of markets and less government oversight has been a Republican article of faith since the days of Reagan. Remember his famous “Government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem” line? Sorry, but the GOP has pushed a deregulatory agenda for decades and you can’t just turn around and cherrypick a few instances where Dems may or may not have supported limited deregulation and claim that Dems caused the current crisis. That is absolute BS and nobody is buying it. We are not idiots. Please stop insulting our intelligence.
Posted by: lubricated cucumber | October 4, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
reddog – Fannie and Freddie WERE fine when Frank made those comments. Duh.
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS! | October 4, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
duuuude… wikipedia is NOT a reliable source. Are you a noob on the internets?
Posted by: kim devitt | October 4, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
lubricated cucumber
Hey you know what I am only here because I am a concerned citizen thats it I will survive regardless who gets in office.Believe what you choose
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
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They were please.How do you figure that 2 years later they are in crissis than?
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
reddog – and I’m only here because I’m a concerned citizen dedicated to shooting down the bulls–t and disinformation spewed by Republican liars. You need to get used to the fact that, from now on, decent people are not going to put up with the GOP’s crap anymore and there are ALWAYS going to be better informed people like me out there ready to set the record straight when you liars try to pull your partisan crap. Don’t say you weren’t warned!
Posted by: lubricated cucumber | October 4, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
reddog – this crisis happened very quickly. But the fact is that if you looked at Fannie and Freddie’s actual financials two years ago, you would have seen that Barney Frank was right. If you were in Business you would know that two years ago might as well be two lifetimes ago in the business cycle.
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS! | October 4, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
lubricated cucumber,
Why all of a sudden the strict oversight of fannie and freddie
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
What a surprised, what’s next her H.S grades? We the taxpayers just handed out $700 Billion and the media won’t even cover the why and who in Washington is respossible. There’s been more investigation on Palin than both Obama and Biden. Way to go ABC= All Barack Channel
Posted by: Kenny Jones | October 4, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
Don`t worry she is new at fleecing the tax payers. She is a fast learner the Repubs say.
Posted by: Boris | October 4, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Wow! lubricated cucumber just put reddog on notice! It’s nice to see people stepping up and shutting down the GOP liars before their slimy filth gains any purchase. Maybe there is hope for this country yet…
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 4, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
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First off I am a Business owner,If you really think they were okay two years ago why did alan greenspan warn of this problem
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Here’s the difference between a Reublican (Palin) and a Democratic (Hillary Clinton) RUNNING FOR A NATIONAL OFFICE. Palin has a modest real EARNED income, Clinton had earned over 4 MILLION dollars in 1 year by a commodities trader that risked money on her behalf with no risk of loss. I am sick of the underhanded deomcrats who try to act like they care about middle america all while most are absolute crooks that steal from the hardest working of society to give it to the non working lazy crack head democrats that of course democrats feel are entitled to other people’s that do work, hard earned money!
Posted by: Vendo44 | October 4, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Hey we all have the internet and with a couple of clicks we can check things out for ourselves.You just have to know what to look for and to me its pretty easy to find the root cause of this problem believe me or not
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
To kim devitt,
If you believe it wrong, why don’t you produce supporting evidence to the contrary?
I can simply say the SAME for whatever you post.
Don’t be a moron. Are you afraid of ACORN? Do you know what ACORN represent?
purposes? agendas?
Wake up and wise up!
Posted by: Voter In America | October 4, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
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“reddog – Fannie and Freddie WERE fine when Frank made those comments. Duh.”
Yeap, you are right… ON THE PAPER!!!
These crooks ALREADY knew they are in deep six!
Posted by: Voter In America | October 4, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Folks, if you are incensed as I am about the petty BS that streams from the keyboards of phony journalists like Wright and Ross, then save your time and just tune out ABC. That network is effectively persona non grata in our house. If enough people turn off ABC, the exec who run the network will get rid of the hacks and replace them with objective news writers and reporters.
Posted by: jcarob | October 4, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Biden 2006 Income – $248,459 Charity – $380
Palin 2006 Income – $128,005 Charity – $4880
Biden 2007 Income – $319,853 Charity – $995
Palin 2007 Income – $166,495 Charity – $3325
Hmmm.
I realize that many people can’t or don’t give monetary donations. Instead they give “charity” by volunteering and doing community service but I find these numbers very interesting.
Here’s Biden’s track record of giving. Sad.
Year Income Charity
1998 $215,432 $195
1999 $210,797 $120
2000 $219,953 $360
2001 $220,712 $360
2002 $227,811 $260
2003 $231,375 $260
2004 $234,271 $380 (2004 Tsunami)
2005 $321,379 $380 (2005 Katrina)
Even my daughter, who was 10 yrs old, saved her allowance and sent $150 to Tsumami victims, (I matched her with $150).
… my point is that the Obama/Biden ticket claim to care so much for the poor etc. but it seems to me that they only want to spend someone else’s money to help them. OURS!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 4, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Democrats and Freddie Mae’s management argued there is NOTHING wrong! Outcome: disaster strikes and America has a huge bailout and Freddie Mae is no more. The DNC and Barack Obama is being sued because he will NOT share his birth certificate with the courts. He had a few private people look at it and say it is official. Maybe I should notify the lottery board that I have a winning ticket and I’ve had a few private citizens look at my ticket and it is genuine, so I do not need to show the lottery ticket to officials—pay me. So elect Obama not knowing if he is breaking the US Constitution. Is America important? Is our Constitution worth fighting for any more? What is wrong with knowing? The DNC and Obama’s hired lawyers (he is paying them money!) not submit the original birth certificate to the courts to examine to end the controversy. Barack Obama needs to come forth with certified copies of these documents and the case will immediately be dismissed. Yes, the “media” is quiet on this issue but America will spread the word. There are still enough Americans that respect the Constitution and the “freedoms” that our people have fought for.
Posted by: Ann | October 4, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Well SAID, Vendo44!
Of course, those RETARDED Obama supporters would claim that the EMPTY suit is smart and KNOWS absolutely NOTHING about the economy.
huh,huh..oh.oh… hold on hold on, I can’t hear myself… where the h— are those teleprompters?
Posted by: Voter In America | October 4, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Alan Greenspan saw this comming and warned eveyone Nothing was done and thats the main reason he retired.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Biden 2006 Income – $248,459 Charity – $380
Palin 2006 Income – $128,005 Charity – $4880
Biden 2007 Income – $319,853 Charity – $995
Palin 2007 Income – $166,495 Charity – $3325
Hmmm.
I realize that many people can’t or don’t give monetary donations. Instead they give “charity” by volunteering and doing community service but I find these numbers very interesting.
Here’s Biden’s track record of giving. Sad.
Year Income Charity
1998 $215,432 $195
1999 $210,797 $120
2000 $219,953 $360
2001 $220,712 $360
2002 $227,811 $260
2003 $231,375 $260
2004 $234,271 $380 (2004 Tsunami)
2005 $321,379 $380 (2005 Katrina)
Even my daughter, who was 10 yrs old, saved her allowance and sent $150 to Tsumami victims, (I matched her with $150).
… my point is that the Obama/Biden ticket claim to care so much for the poor etc. but it seems to me that they only want to spend someone else’s money to help them. OURS!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 4, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
ACORN supported and supports John Edwards, another lieing lawyer who is wealthy and acts as if he is a champion of thge poor! John Edwards and most of the philandering democrats get the most footing by being supported by the brainless supporters who actually believe unfaithful cheating democratic spooks the likes of Edwards. John Edwards and Bill Clinton are exactly alike!
Posted by: Mark Nylen | October 4, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
As all you moron democrats should now comment: Why doesn’t Joe Biden give more to charity if he is a caring about middle class stand up guy………..THAT’s THE QUESTION THAT NONE OF YOU BRAINDEADS CAN ANSWER!
Posted by: Vendo44 | October 4, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
HP Boston – who cares? Seriously? I so don’t give two craps how much money who gave to what…
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 4, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Vendo44 – since when did the middle class need charity? Charity is for the POOR, not the middle class, you friggin dope. Get a clue. LOL
Posted by: Primus One | October 4, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Vendo44 – who cares? What does that have to do with anything? What a bizarre distraction technique…
Posted by: American Gun Rights | October 4, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Vendo: wow – you Republicans are getting desperate now. Who gives a crap?
Posted by: Common Sense | October 4, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Sarah Palin has openly and legally obtained clarifications from the IRS on all her tax deductions. The liberals hate her so much that they would go to any length to discredit her. The democrats in Congress are just afraid of what the McCain/Palin team can do to bring their corruption and their role in the financial meltdown to light. ABC and other mainstream media just cannot report anything honestly.
We can see your bias, ABC! You would not question the $1,000,000 earmark that Obama added to a senate bill right after becoming senator that went to Michelle Obama’s employer, who “coincidentally” nearly tripled her salary right before that. That’s a MILLION DOLLARS in taxpayers’ money paid to directly benefit the senator’s wife! But you would dig into whether Palin had to pay taxes on a few dollars of her per diem expenses AFTER IRS HAS AGREED THAT SHE COULD!!!
Palin is a model of honesty and integrity and you are just trying to smear her and protect your corrupt beloved leader Obama. Report on his dealings with Rezko, on Obama’s purchase of his home that Rezko used to give Obama a hidden bribe (Obama paid a discounted price while Rezko’s wife bought an identical property from the same seller on the same day and paid full price). Obama is stealing money from the taxpayers, he is taking bribes, he is planning to raise taxes on hardworking people to punish those who have more talent, more determination, more responsibility.
McCain and Palin are the only ones who can clean up Washington!
Posted by: Andrew | October 4, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Primus Zero, they don’t but he espouses to be for the middle class while he gives nothing to charity as an example of his sympathy for the poor. He is a wolf (or better put, a rat in sheep’s clothing). Joe Biden and Barrack Osama don’t care about anyone but their own hide and getting to be Pres/VP through votes of the mindless democrats who believe them.
Posted by: Vendo44 | October 4, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Ann,
Don’t forget that the “one” according to his “lover” Oprah is a CONSTUTIONAL LIAR (Lawyer)!
He MUST know the Constitutional requirements to run for the highest office of the land.
I think/believe with all my heart that:
1.His mom got knocked up by this Kenyan Muslim and when she came to visit him in Kenya, she gave birth to Obama.
2.When Obama’s mother returned to Hawaii, she did not register Obama’s birth.
3.When she met this Indonesian Muslim Soetoro (sp?) and TOOK off with him along with Obama to Indonesia, which is a Muslim country, Obama was sent to the Muslim school.
4. When Obama’s half sister, Maya (sp?) was born, Obama’s mother returned to Hawaii and registered her in that state.
5. So, in fact, Obama is NEVER a natural born US Citizen. He is a natural born Kenyan!
6. When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 to visit his college buddy and stayed with him in Pakistan, he used the Indonesian Passport. You could not go to Pakistan easily with an American passport.
Posted by: Voter In America | October 4, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Vendo44 – huh? You jump to some pretty crazy conclusions based on some very slim evidence, pal. You seem a bit unhinged to me. Once again, I’ll ask you, what does charity have to do with the middle class? You’re a friggin kook!
Posted by: Primus One | October 4, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Voter In America – who cares what you “think/believe with all your heart”? You’re still a friggin idiot and Obama is still going to win. That’s the cold hard truth. Deal with it. LOL
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Republicans are getting desperate.
Posted by: Leo Fuld | October 4, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Primus One
I think he is trying to draw an infrence that if he cares so much about people why such the low donations to charity.It is about moral fiber.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Voter In America – everything in your post is total crap. While you misinformed wingnuts get yourselves all wound up telling each other campfire stories, Obama is pulling ahead to a comfortable double-digit lead in many states. You guys just keep marginalizing yourselves with your little conspiracy theories. LOL
Posted by: kimbers | October 4, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
Fact Checker
I dont see how you can call yourself that and Endorse Obama and the democrats
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
reddog – so giving to charity is the only measure of moral fiber? What a bunch of crap!
Posted by: Primus One | October 4, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
reddog – oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that I was no longer entitled to my own political opinions based on the facts.
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Primus One
I did not say it was the only measure please dont put words in my mouth
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Primus The Zero, you can tell you are a demo because you think that as a demo you don’t have to give anything back (philanthropy, donations) to society. You have a real disconnect in this area. You as a demo believe in the Robinhood mentality, steal from the hard working and give it to the people that won’t work BUT DON’T TAKE IT OR GIVE IT YOURSELF, just raise taxes on highest wage earners and not give a penny yourself! Sadest part…….you think that this is right and it makes sense…………..I pity you fool!
Posted by: Vendo44 | October 4, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Fat Checker,
No. No Way, No Hussien, No Obama!
No Muslim, no Democrap moron like you,
No to the corrupted Frank, Dodd, Meeks, Waters, and the like,
No ACORN.
Get a grip, you’re nut (ACORN)!
Posted by: Voter In America | October 4, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Vendo44 – how do you know what I believe in, pal? What the heck is your problem? Where did I ever say that I don’t believe in giving back to society? Are you my tax guy? Do you have access to my charitable donations? No, you do not. And you don’t know the first thing about me or what I believe in or where my charitable donations go. So cut the crap and stop with all the unhinged ranting. Who the hell are you to go around judging the morality of others? You’re an unhinged wackjob. Go screw yourself, pal!
Posted by: Primus One | October 4, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
You should change your name to Primus Zero, more fitting.
Posted by: Vendo44 | October 4, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Voter In America – wow. That moronic nursery rhyme should help McCain’s imploding campaign. Good luck with that. LOL
Obama is going to win the White House, and all his opponents have are demented nursery rhymes. Too funny.
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Vendo – whatevs, wackjob. Get a life, you unhinged loser. Call me when you finally kiss a girl and get some hair down there. LOL
Posted by: Primus One | October 4, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Fact Checker ,
Of course you are entitled to your opinion Its just seemed unfitting with the facts thats all
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
reddog – then how is it any measure? Seriously? What a bunch of silly crap. You idiots are grasping at straws on this one. Just look at the insane conclusions that Vendo44 is jumping to based on that? He’s out of his tree!
Posted by: Primus One | October 4, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
How many more lies are you liberals going to talk about, you are all taking after Biden. Now here you go again attacking her family. You guys are so far left with your liberal, socialisf views it is pathetic.
Posted by: BLAHOBAM | October 4, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
reddog – can you be more specific? Last time I checked it was the McCain that was running such a dishonest campaign that even Karl Rove warned him that all the dishonesty was going to backfire on him. Sorry, but the facts are largely on Obama’s side.
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Primus One
I am just saying the facts prove that the democrats caused this Finacial meltdown and this 700 billion dollar bailout.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
BLABHOAM – can you rephrase that rant in something resembling English? Thanks!
Posted by: nimbus | October 4, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
who cares she is a public servant under every scrutiny there is. More so than you or I. How would you like everyone to know what you make and what you spend your money on…stop being hypocrites and prying in on peeps lives.. And do you think Dems or Republicans are not chasing after that 180k a year pay plus per diem while they are away from there home. They get two homes there primary home in there state which if you look these aren’t ranch style homes with 2 bedrooms one bath. And they get a home here in DC area in McLean VA which these homes average over 1 million dollars. And if avg. Senator gets two home allowance does this mean Senator Clinton gets a 3 home allowance one in Arkansas, DC, and New York???
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Posted by: loveIRS | October 4, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Sorry primus that was intended for fact check LOL
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
reddog – um, no they don’t. 30 years of Republican deregulatory philosophy and the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act did. Are you going to trot out that nonsense about ACORN and Fannie and Freddie again? Don’t bother. That crap was debunked by serious economists last week. Everybody who’s not a wingnut partisan knows that that’s all just a smokescreen designed to shift the blame on Democrats for the GOP’s mistakes. Nobody is buying it. The root of this meltdown was the removal of key anti-speculation provisions of the Glass-Steagall act. Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or an idiot. Which one are you?
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
reddog – you’re kidding right? You’re trying to blame this mess on the Democrats? Good grief! Get a clue.
Posted by: kimbers | October 4, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
reddog – please stop lying. Nobody believes you. Thanks!
Posted by: honest john | October 4, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Dear ABCNews.com:
Whoever is in charge of creating top page links to the actual story page should READ THE STORY. This story is NOT about a comparison among the candidates’ salaries. It is all about Governor Palin’s possible failure to report income.
This is the second time in a row that someone has put a misleading link to a story about the governor. I suspect that someone is trying to undermine the quality of your journalism. Get rid of her or him.
Posted by: Time after time | October 4, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
OMG! Did reddog seriously try to pull that line about the credit crisis being Fannie and Freddie’s fault? Seriously? How stupid does he think we are? Please!
Posted by: lascar | October 4, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama is three muslim names (not say all Muslims are terrois but the next facts scare me)
FACT: BHO went 20 years to the Hate America Rev. Wrights Church
FACT: BHO has ties with terroist Ayers
FACT: BHO political carrer started with the corrupt political machine in Ill.
FACT: Ill. has the highest crime rate
FACT: Ill. has the highest unemployment
FACT: Ill. has the highest taxes
FACT: BHO 2nd highest money taken from Fannie and Freddie and now we as tax payers are bailing them out
FACT: Obama vote 160 time as present because he could not make a decision.
NOT WHAT I WANT FOR PRESIDENT. You idiot liberals screwed up when you did not vote for Hilliary.
Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 4, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Fact Checker,
Let me ask you this if someone does not meet the standard to get a loan because of income,ability to save etc..You think its not going to be a high risk problem waiting to happen
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
God Lord – now this Palin woman is a tax cheat, too? Did McCain bother to vet ANYTHING about this woman? What a disaster she is! I really fear for the GOP in the future. Obama is going to walk away with this election because McCain couldn’t be bothered to do his homework. This is why I supported Romney!
Posted by: dissappointed | October 4, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
OMG! Did reddog seriously try to pull that line about the credit crisis being Fannie and Freddie’s fault? Seriously? How stupid does he think we are? Please!
Posted by: lascar | Oct 4, 2008 10:19:30 AM
Yes freddie and fannie caused this mess they bought these mortgages from people that should of never been approved
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Please one liberal find any of my facts wrong:
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama is three muslim names (not say all Muslims are terrois but the next facts scare me)
FACT: BHO went 20 years to the Hate America Rev. Wrights Church
FACT: BHO has ties with terroist Ayers
FACT: BHO political carrer started with the corrupt political machine in Ill.
FACT: Ill. has the highest crime rate
FACT: Ill. has the highest unemployment
FACT: Ill. has the highest taxes
FACT: BHO 2nd highest money taken from Fannie and Freddie and now we as tax payers are bailing them out
FACT: Obama vote 160 time as present because he could not make a decision.
NOT WHAT I WANT FOR PRESIDENT. You idiot liberals screwed up when you did not vote for Hilliary.
Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 4, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
reddog – I think the problem is that checks on predatory lending were removed first when Phil Gramm pushed to repeal key features of the Glass-Steagall act. This is what made those bad loans possible in the first place. You’re trying to blame the victims and not the perpetrators here. Have you not been paying attention?
Look, it’s not my fault that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Maybe you need to stop ingesting discredited rightwing talking points and educate yourself about what actually happened. Nobody is going to take you very seriously if you keep trying to pin this on Fannie and Freddie without putting it larger context.
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Keeping the Mortgage Market Liquid and Credit Affordable
The GSEs have become the main source of liquidity for home loans; in the second quarter of 2008, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae guaranteed approximately 70 percent of all newly originated conventional conforming mortgage debt. Without the GSEs playing their statutory role at this present time, the U.S. mortgage market would virtually shut down, as in the case of the U.K. mortgage market, which depends exclusively on depositories and private-label securitization
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Still waitinng
Please one liberal find any of my facts wrong:
FACT: Barrack Hussien Obama is three muslim names (not say all Muslims are terrois but the next facts scare me)
FACT: BHO went 20 years to the Hate America Rev. Wrights Church
FACT: BHO has ties with terroist Ayers
FACT: BHO political carrer started with the corrupt political machine in Ill.
FACT: Ill. has the highest crime rate
FACT: Ill. has the highest unemployment
FACT: Ill. has the highest taxes
FACT: BHO 2nd highest money taken from Fannie and Freddie and now we as tax payers are bailing them out
FACT: Obama vote 160 time as present because he could not make a decision.
NOT WHAT I WANT FOR PRESIDENT. You idiot liberals screwed up when you did not vote for Hilliary.
Posted by: BHOBLAH | October 4, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Fact Checker
Hold on yes there was preatory lending I am with you.Freddie and Fannie were willing to buy anything you could write up because they were allowed to leverage at a higher rate than any other institution
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Predatory lending did not cause the Housing market to over inflate demand and availibilty of easy loans did
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
If Sarah Palin’s folksy ways speak to you then you probably shouldn’t be voting.
Posted by: Alex | October 4, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Did you know that the Obama campaign gave 800,000 dollars to ACORN.I WOULD LIKE AN EXPLAINATION AS TO WHY,this organization has a history, and members in jail for, voter fraud.They were making up phoney registrations and got caught.IS THAT WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN HIRED BY THE OBAMA CAMP TO DO?
Posted by: 7april77 | October 4, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
It’s always interesting to see how many people have all day long to write liberal blog commentaries. Guess that’s why y’all want the government to support you. Only problem is socialism / communism does not work…it’s been tried in the former Soviet Union.
Furthermore, before you vote Obama into office take a look at all the cities liberals have been running for the last 20 years. Baltimore, Detroit, Camden, Memphis, etc, etc. Figure out how to fix your neighborhoods and cities before you screw up the entire nation. Just throwing money at these corrupt city regimes doesn’t work.
Posted by: hawkerhurricane | October 4, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Did you know 1/2 of the millions og dallars Obama received on the internet is coming from over seas and the Government is looking into this because it is illegal. He is receiving money from terrorist groups. Now you all know why BHOBLAH is worried about Obama and his facts can not be disregarded because they are true.
Posted by: kiddingme | October 4, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
BHOBLAH – I will be happy to dispute & debunk several of your so-called “facts”.
1. BHO went 20 years to the hate America Rev. Wrights Church.
This is part fact and part opinion. Obama went to Rev. Wright’s Church for 20 years. That is a fact. That it was a “hate America” church is your opinion. Please learn the difference.
2. BHO has ties with terrorist Ayers.
Obama has ties with Ayers. That is a fact. Ayers is not a terrorist. That is a lie.
3. Fact: Ill has the highest crime rate.
Wrong. ARIZONA actually has the highest crime rate per population. OOPS!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#cite_note-Crime_by_State_and_region.2C_FBI-49
4. Fact: Ill has the highest unemployment
Wrong. Illinois ranks 48th with an unemployment rate of 6.8% – Michigan holds the title for highest unemployment at 8.5%
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/state_unemployment/
5. Ill has the highest taxes
Wrong again, New Jersey residents paid 11.8%, topping the charts. New Yorkers were close behind, paying 11.7%, and Connecticut was third at 11.1%. The top 10 were rounded out by Maryland (10.8%), Hawaii (10.6%), California (10.5%), Ohio (10.4%). Vermont (10.3%), Wisconsin (10.2%) and Rhode Island (10.2%). Illinois isn’t even in the top ten.
http://www.retirementliving.com/RLtaxes.html
Anything else you’d like debunked?
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
hawkerhurricane – guess that’s why Bush just socialized the financial sector this week. Kind of ironic that while you’re trying to lecture us all on how “Socialism doesn’t work” a Republican President just used socialism to save capitalism when the free market failed. You might want to adjust your rhetoric accordingly. LOL
Posted by: Semper Fi Guy | October 4, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
reddog – sorry, but you’re wrong. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Thanks for playing!
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
reddog – I think you’re confusing cause and effect. Fannie and Freddie could never have made those loans without the gutting of Glass-Steagal by the GOP Congress. Fact Checker is right. You are wrong. Sorry, but it’s pretty obvious that you don’t really understand what happened.
Posted by: JIMBO | October 4, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
BHOBLAH
Thanks for all of your facts regarding the State of Illinois.
How many electoral votes do Illinois have?
Which candidate [Obama or McCain] will carry the State of Illinois?
If it is Obama, you may want to change your strategy, like McCain changes his on a weekly basis.
Remember, McCain did change his slogan to “Change.” And, it is incoherent Change.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 4, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
How can she own 5 homes on that income?
DECEPTION GOING ON HERE!
Posted by: dannie | October 4, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
OK, so she got a little creative with filing her income taxes and could get caught. Who cares. My real issue with her is she is NOT qualified to be VP. Not by a long shot.
Posted by: Todd | October 4, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
OK, so she got a little creative with filing her income taxes and could get caught. Who cares. My real issue with her is she is NOT qualified to be VP. Not by a long shot.
Posted by: Todd | October 4, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Damn, Fact Checker – you just owned BHOBLAH! Nice!
Posted by: kimbers | October 4, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
kimbers – somebody has to keep these Republican liars in line. We can’t afford to let them spew their lies without calling them out any longer. All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men and women to do nothing.
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
ON PALIN’S TAX RETURN
Talk about “GAMING THE SYSTEM” as McCain often shouted, this is it, and McCain campaign knows it! This woman says she is a “REFORMER” and would change Washington. I have come to believe that when someone shouts “holier than thou” AND IS BETTER THAN THE REST OF US, look again. Palin and her husband milked the system for whatever it is worth. Taxpayers’ money seems to be their gateway to high life in Alaska. Talk about all those designer clothes! It’s all about vanity and selfish individuality, not public service and selflessness.
Posted by: Dr. Sam | October 4, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
WHat is sad is is the big lies of Obama and and Biden. They say they care so much but the truth is they gave so little in charity when compared to Sarah and McCaim. We need leaders not liers.
Posted by: Duane Z | October 4, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I live in Texas. I haven’t seen any McCain banners anywhere.
I think the great state of Texas is no longer Repub. friendly.
Posted by: tish | October 4, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Sarah and Todd
See Sarah run.
See Todd run.
See Sarah dodge taxes.
See Todd dodge taxes.
See Sarah wink
See Todd wink.
So on and so forth………
We just love Sarah and Todd, yet we know nothing about them.
Sarah and Todd have move executive experience and Barrak and Michelle.
This is why people like Sarah and Todd (wink, wink, you betcha!)
Have a beer on me.
Oh, I almost forgot, I was blinded by the celebrity, McCain is at the top of the GOP ticket. What made me lose sight of this. Was it all the lights are was it the glasses?
Mavrick McCain
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 4, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Okay … here’s how this broad works:
A lie here, a lie there. A cover up here, a cover up there. A lounge act here, a lounge act there.
If she were Vice President, our Constitution gives her one job: breaking a tie in the Senate.
If we only needed a yah or nay from her fine, however McCain is on his last leg, and God forbid she landed in another job, a lie here and a lie there, et cetera is not something America needs.
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: newz4i | October 4, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Duane Z – is that the best you’ve got? Wow, you guys are pretty desperate!
Posted by: Fact Checker | October 4, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Amazing to me that people will zoom in on such minor details that amount to nothing.
OBAMA is dangerous. Stop allowing the media to spoon feed you junk food and think for yourself. Look up this in wikipedia (for a starter study):
James Cone, Black Liberation Theology
Obama has followed this faith/worldview for 20 years – baptized in it, married in it, raised children in it. It is racist!!! And notice that it advocates the idea of “by any means” (even lieing to get votes). DON’T BE FOOLS.
vote MCCAIN ’08
Posted by: horseman | October 4, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
reddog – I think you’re confusing cause and effect. Fannie and Freddie could never have made those loans without the gutting of Glass-Steagal by the GOP Congress. Fact Checker is right. You are wrong. Sorry, but it’s pretty obvious that you don’t really understand what happened.
Posted by: JIMBO
You are kidding right.The facts are clear fannie and freddie pushed the ability to buy these loans regardless of the risk
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Duane Z – so what? Seriously. SO WHAT?
Posted by: anne garrity | October 4, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
I am self employed and work out of my home and one of the questions this raises to me is that it sounds as though Tod must have charged one heck of a lot of his home as “office” to manage to generate a $10,000 loss. There is also a lot of talk of gifts received from lobbyists and I see no mention of them here. Were there gifts and, if so, where are they claimed?
Posted by: S Mc | October 4, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
I don’t want to win based on LIES…as a REPUBLICAN we need to check our own morals and values…We are suppose to be above the lies. McCain is about to start a Campaign of LIES…I would rather lose the election than LIE to win.
Posted by: Sara Palin | October 4, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
OK, so she got a little creative with filing her income taxes and could get caught. Who cares. My real issue with her is she is NOT qualified to be VP. Not by a long shot.
Posted by: Todd | October 4, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
McCain sucks @ss.
Posted by: Johnny | October 4, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Palin is a double edged sword for McCain.
Positive: She has the base fired-up.
Negative: Too many distractions.
Too late in the game for those types of negatives. Too much time correcting errors and defending his VP.
John McCain a leader with superb judgement!
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 4, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
reddog – no, I am not kidding. It’s clear that you don’t know what you’re talking about beyond already discredited rightwing talking points. First of all, follow the timeline – the GOP Congress dismantled key anti-speculation provisions in the Glass-Steagall act in 1999. That paved the way for the deregulation of loans, which enabled not only Fannie and Freddie, but the entire banking sector to issue bad loans. To pin this entire thing on Fannie and Freddie is not only ridiculous, but dead wrong. They were simply one part of a much larger meltdown. You are cherrypicking your information in a transparent partisan attempt to shift the blame on to Democrats.
Anybody with any sense can see that you’re dead wrong and that you’re full of crap.
Call me when you understand what’s actually happening. Idiot.
Posted by: JIMBO | October 4, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
I don’t want to win based on LIES…as a REPUBLICAN we need to check our own morals and values…We are suppose to be above the lies. McCain is about to start a Campaign of LIES…I would rather lose the election than LIE to win.
Posted by: Sara Palin | October 4, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Duane Z – who cares?
Posted by: baby beluga | October 4, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Wow… Dems are running the table on this board. Dumb Republican liars can’t get a word in edgewise without getting beaten down with the facts. That makes me very happy!
Posted by: Truth Hurts | October 4, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Even if you believe that the glass steagall The democratic president signed it into law
Anyone who thinks the repeal of Glass-Steagall was forced on an unwilling Bill Clinton need only read Rubin’s testimony. A year later Sandy Weill set in motion the forces that would finally end Glass-Steagall
secretary of the treasury, Robert Rubin
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
these are the worst comments in the world god help us all
Posted by: horrified reader | October 4, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
reddog – so it’s all Clinton’s fault now? God you dumbarse Republicans are a broken record. When will you stop blaming Clinton for everything and take some damn responsibility for your own party’s actions? The rest of us are sick of you blaming everybody but yourselves for your own mistakes.
Posted by: Truth Hurts | October 4, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
What’s to believe? That’s the facts, son. And trying to pin the Glass-Steagal repeal on Clinton is just pathetic, dude. Everybody who was paying attention knows that it was Phil Gramm who rammed it through Congress. Get a clue, dude.
Posted by: JIMBO | October 4, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
How come you didn’t mention the Palins charitable contributions? In two years (2006 and 2007) they contributed close to $8,000, with an income lower that of Biden. Biden has contributed between 3 and $4,000 since 1998. That’s a pretty striking difference.
Posted by: Butler | October 4, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Truth Hurts – somebody else posted something funny before: “how do you know when a Republican is losing an argument? He starts blaming Clinton.” LOL
Posted by: kimbers | October 4, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
JIMBO whatever you choose to think or believe is fine with me.Again even if you believe that the glass-steagall act caused this thenexplain why Clinton and his treasury sec backed it to is fullest
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
kimbers – ain’t the truth! Too funny! Republicans can’t responsibility for anything anymore. If they didn’t have Bill Clinton, they would have had to invent him.
Posted by: Truth Hurts | October 4, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
reddog – um, do you even know what the Glass-Steagal act is?
Posted by: JIMBO | October 4, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Truth – you know what really cracks me up? When Republicans pretend that they suddenly love Hillary now, even though they spent 8 years doing everything they could to destroy both her and her husband. How stupid do they think we are? Do they think we just forgot how much crap they threw at the Clintons for 8 years? This is why it’s impossible to believe anything they do or say now – they are like robots, programmed to hate whomever their leaders tell them to.
Posted by: kimbers | October 4, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
is the ticket McCain/Palin OR Palin/McCain
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 4, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
It’s the Religion of “O.” And I thought Oprah had that copyright.
Obama Youth gone militant. Whether it’s pre-teens singing angelic praises in the form of a hymn to Dear Leader Obama or teens marching around in pseudo-military garb chanting about how Barack Obama is their Alpha and Omega and reciting policy positions, it’s clear that a wave of idolatry like we’ve not seen since the late 1930s surrounds Barack Obama among youth.
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/jungsturm-barack-obama/
see video on the site. Yikes!!
——
Looks like Nation of Islam to me.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 4, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
reddog – look, the sun just came out and my golf game is back on. I’m not going to waste my day arguing with people who don’t know what they’re talking about. Why don’t you read up on the Glass-Steagall act and try and catch up with the rest of us so you stop embarrassing yourself, okay? Good luck with that.
Posted by: JIMBO | October 4, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
HP Boston – looks like total crap to me. Please stop posting this nonsense. Thanks!
Posted by: risk metrics | October 4, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
HP Boston – looks like total crap to me. Please stop posting this nonsense. Thanks!
Posted by: risk metrics | October 4, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Yes I do, believe what you choose.I have read all the reports what caused what
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 4, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
By golly, this is what middle class is these days…
On a separate financial disclosure form, the Palins valued their home in Wasilla at between $500,000 and $1 million. Their mortgage interest deduction of only $10,203, reported on their tax return, suggests they have substantial equity in the property, according to one tax accountant.
Todd Palin’s commercial fishing business is worth between $50,000 and $100,000 and the couple’s fishing leasehold in Nushagak River, Alaska, is valued at $100,000 to $250,000.
Along with mutual funds and property, their total assets are between $880,000 and $2.1 million, the form indicated.
Much of the 2007 tax return deals with Todd Palin’s varied business activities. Although he won $17,000 in prize money in Alaska’s Iron Dog snowmachine race, he reported a $9,639 business loss after deducting equipment depreciation, repairs, fuel and other costs of racing.
However, he reported a profit of $15,513 on his commercial fishing operation, even after deducting $12,245 paid to his crew as a share of the catch, along with other expenses.
Posted by: pamp205 | October 4, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
no, reddog, you obviously don’t. You sound like Sarah Palin telling Katie Couric that she reads “everything” – not very convincing. Go buy a clue, pal.
Posted by: risk metrics | October 4, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
So Palin is a tax cheat, too? She just gets worse and worse. What was McCain thinking?
Posted by: OTB Joe | October 4, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
It’s common knowledge up here where I live (99705) that the Palin’s are hardly middle class. Their home is worth half a million, they have two vacation homes and their net worth is around 1.2 million. That’s no “Joe Six Pack” lifestyle. She’s a complete fraud – just like McCain. I think they both need to look up the word maverick in the dictionary – they’re just ridiculous. The repubs are in denial. The only sane choice in 2008 is Obama-Biden.
Posted by: Randi | October 4, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
reddog – see that’s the problem with you dumb Republicans. You say “believe what you choose” – but there is no actual choice here. Just the facts as JIMBO so cogently laid them out for you, and everything else. The only “choice” here is between the facts and bulls–t. You are clearly opting for the bulls–t. You dumb Republicans have to realize eventually that you don’t get to choose the facts anymore. Duh.
Posted by: risk metrics | October 4, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS:
Ignore the question, change the subject
Sarah – Is that you?
Posted by: jbb | October 4, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Randi – you know I seem to remember that in the old “Maverick” TV show the title character played by James Garner was a con man and a card cheat. Maybe McCain and Palin are “Mavericks” after all… LOL
Posted by: janie jones | October 4, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Time Magazine’s October 1st issue released the following figures: —-Sarah Palin and her husband have pieced together a uniquely Alaskan income that reached comfortably into six figures even before she became governor, capitalizing on valuable fishing rights, a series of land deals and a patchwork of other ventures to build an above-average lifestyle. Add up the couple’s 2007 income and the estimated value of their property and investments and they appear to be worth at least $1.2 million. The Palins’ total income last year was split almost evenly between Sarah Palin’s white-collar job and her husband’s blue-collar work. Sarah Palin’s salary as governor was $125,000; Todd Palin took in $46,790 as a part-time oil production operator for BP Alaska in Prudhoe Bay, plus $46,265 in commercial fishing income and $10,500 in Iron Dog snow machine race winnings. The Palins’ assets seem enviable: a half-million-dollar home on a lake with a float-plane at the dock, two vacation retreats, commercial-fishing rights worth an estimated $50,000 or more and an income last year of at least $230,000. That compares to a median income of $64,333 for Alaskans and $50,740 for Americans in 2007, according to the Census Bureau. These figures do not include nearly $17,000 in per diem payments Palin received for 312 nights spent in her own home since she was elected governor; she also has received $43,490 to cover travel costs for her husband and children, which the IRS has said is illegal.—-Oops. So much for “Joe Six Pack”. Doesn’t America deserve better than this woman? In her own words, “You betcha’”
Posted by: Randi | October 4, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Manolete
You are so full of yourself
This has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton.
Like Sarah you just change the subject.
This article is about Palin’s tax return, not womens’ place in government.
Posted by: jbb | October 4, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Oh my gosh, the republicans on here are just hilarious. I love how tehyr’e trying SO hard to make mountains out of molehills. If there was any REAL dirt on Obama, believe me – McCain and all of his flying monkeys would have dug it up. They’ve been working feverishly to find something and they haven’t. I think my favorite is the lunatics questioning Obama’s birth certificate from Hawaii…hey wait a minute, McCain was born in Panama…can he run? QUICK CALL THE ENQUIRER!
Posted by: Kristy | October 4, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Hey VOTERinAMerica….Yeah, right – and you’re the only one in America with that highly inflammable info. Pretty sure the McCain campaign might have jumped on that. Even if your fractured fairy tale were true, Obama would at the very least have dual citizenship as a child born to an American mother abroad. Unfortunately for you, all of Obama’s citizenship requirements were satisfied by his birth in Hawaii. Check a fact now and then, they actually do matter. How do you find your way home after dark? Does the mother ship guide you?
Posted by: Samantha | October 4, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
The FBI is investigating a former Illinois state senator Larry Walsh who is a longtime friend and poker-playing buddy of Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama and his chief of staff Matt Ryan. Hey ABC… how come you ignoring this story……
Posted by: Vet1973 | October 4, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
JANIEJONES – oh mygosh, you’re right! That explains everything!!!! LOL! Thanks!
Posted by: Randi | October 4, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
ABC — you have done a GREAT job getting the lefties all stured up……
Posted by: Vet1973 | October 4, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
I guess it’s true. You can put lipstick on an idiot, but it’s still an idiot. Sorry, Palin.
Posted by: Kristy | October 4, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
ABC — you have done a GREAT job getting the lefties all stirred up with your fact-less accusations……. ……
Posted by: Vet1973 | October 4, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Vet1973 – dude, nobody cares. Get a life.
Posted by: janie jones | October 4, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Palin is a tax cheat. Too funny!
Posted by: catamaran | October 4, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
FROM CNN
“The McCain campaign is very nervous about letting Palin speak her mind near anyone with a camera, microphone or a notebook.
By CNN’s count, Biden has done nearly 100 interviews as Obama’s running mate. Palin has done three. And they haven’t gone well.
In one, she claimed foreign policy experience because she’s the governor of Alaska and “you can actually see Russia” from one part of the state.
In another, she couldn’t or wouldn’t name a single magazine or newspaper that she reads.”
LMAO
Posted by: CHUCK | October 4, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
So, those two grand businesses the Palins run in 2006 netted $10,000 and in 2007 netted $5000 and we want them to solve the economic crisis? Please!!
Posted by: JimM | October 4, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Vet1973
This article is about the tax returns of Sarah Palin and her husband. It may well be that ABC should but has not reported on the story you mention, but as you cite it, that story is at worst some sort of guilt by association. You are just like Sarah. Say nothing about the subject at hand, change the subject to something you feel more comfortable talking about.
Posted by: jbb | October 4, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
kate buckingham
well said
Posted by: jbb | October 4, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Hello, everyone:
Any of you never cheated on your tax returns?
You are all cheaters!
Also, believe in something simply from an article some jerks published demonstrates you are a simple-brained idiot! Just like everyone bought the story about Palin’s youngest son wasn’t hers. Grow up a little, would you people?
Voting for your candidate doesn’t make the other party total trash. Gees, this board is full of typical naive Obama supporters. I have to assume most of you are under 20, or I would be surprised to see those low class comments.
Posted by: tiger | October 4, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
The “average Joe 6-pak” can’t play games with the tax man. You pay up, or go to jail.
Posted by: waya | October 4, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
She earned more than she deserves.
Her winks during the VP debate were annoying to me and inappropriate. If it’s anything, it’s not presidential. Our country is in serious crisis. Her winks made the debate like anything but serious. Can you go to an interview, winking to your interviewer???
Posted by: leighg1 | October 4, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I truly respect Sarah Palin and Hillary.
As a American woman, I am deeply disapointed with a unfair and twisted consequences of SEXISM by major medias, CBS,NBC,ABC,CNN and A LOT OF WOMEN(OPRAH,GOLDBURG,JOY,Cambell Brown…) in American which represents Democratic country in the world. It seems that women’s enermy is women. Palin and Hillary have a common facts that their proven experiences more than Obama who
nothing submiited the Bill during six years as a senator of IL. At least Palin
and Hillary had and have to overcome so many the unfairness and misleading by
the mainstream’s medias and some celebrities like OPRAH,GOLDBURG,JOY,Cambell Brown, Barbara Walters and so on. Do you think
American are ready to meet woman’s president or VP ?? WAKE UP and STOP ATTACTING Palin.
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Posted by: Trish | October 4, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
OMG, you Obamabots are so dumb. Per diem and travel expenses are never taxed. The military and many business people along with other politicians get this money and it is never taxed. Why do you spend this nonsense like Palin has been cheating shows your stupidity and/or just completely immoral.
Posted by: chattyway | October 4, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Porn Video now? Geez, you Obamabots are pathetic. Stop making up crazy nonsense about Palin.
Posted by: chattyway | October 4, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Fact Check has repeatedly demostrated a bias for Obama and the paper they refer to as a BIRTH CERTIFICATE is not one. It is a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH, which are two different things. But hey, Obamabots lie and lie more. It’s all they do. BTW, Obama will never be able to get a birth certificate (real one anyways). Never. Do you hear? If he was not born here, he never could get one. But since we know he was adopted oversears——————he will never be able to get a birth certicate since when a child is adopted out, the certificate is locked away since technical he ceased to be an American at that point. Hello. Oh, Birth Certificate and Certificate of Birth look totally different with the real BC having signatures while the COB does not.
Posted by: chattyway | October 4, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Aw, too bad Republicans…
The Gallup numbers POST DEBATE are out!!
Gallup Tracking 10/01 – 10/03
Obama = 50%
McCain = 42% Obama +8
I guess Americans weren’t impressed with Palin’s canned answers and her little memorized speeches huh??
Also, is it within the debate rules to have answers written on notes cards at the podium like Palin had? It sure was funny to see her reading prepared “general answers” that didn’t even match the question asked half of the time…
You can’t learn how to be VP or President (if something happens to McCain) by cramming for a week….
How pathetic that the MSM even gives her any credibility at all!
Posted by: Davis | October 4, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
I am so tired of People thinking OBAMA is terrorist…. PEOPLE STOP THE HATED SINCE THIS MAN IS BLACK/WHITE …… EIGHT YEARS SHOULD BE DAMM ENOUGH OF YEARS OF HARD TIMES.
Posted by: Clarissia Harris | October 4, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
McCain likes to smell Palin’s brain farts.
Posted by: rhbate | October 4, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
BREAKING: The blogs are reporting Palin did a porn video while in college in Idaho. It is reported that Larry Flint is negotiating for the exclusive rights to sell it. It was an amatuer video entitled “Nailin’ Palin.” Watch this story take off like widfire this weekend!
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Yeah…you can buy a two for one. Palin’s video AND Barack’s video “Backdooring Barack” starring his local college football team.
Posted by: Michael | October 4, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Amazing how many people overlook Barack’s close friendships and associations with anti-American’s life Rev. Wright, William Ayers, etc. Just goes to show…people are plain ignorant. This would go a long way toward explaining how W. was elected twice.
Posted by: Michael | October 4, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
And what about Palin’s association with her “witch hunter” who she praises for seeing she was elected governor.
Just GOOGLE: Palin’s witch doctor.
Posted by: rhbate | October 4, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
chattyfatty -
The gist of the article is that you cannot collect income for travel to your home without paying taxes on that money. Per diem refers to expenses incurred while away from home. If she was living in Wasalla and traveling to the capital to work, that would have to be at her expense. If she was living at the capital and travelling home she might be able to claim per diem, but only for herself, not her whole familly. But if she was living at the capital, that would have to be her home address for income tax purposes. If all this sounds simple to you it is probably because you are simple-minded … But we have seen other evidence for that here as well.
Posted by: jbb | October 4, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
I live in Wasilla, Alaska. First, I am not voting for McCain/Palin because I don’t support his views and she is simply not qualified. Many people in Alaska support her but many of us don’t and aren’t afraid to say so. Second, Track was actually a hockey player and Sarah a hockey mom (really!). People, educate yourself, don’t just take what is on tv, how they sound, false commercials, etc… Know the facts! Forget party affiliation. I vote for who is going to do the best job for our country. It’s OBAMA/BIDEN for me all the way. God Bless America..we need it!
Posted by: Chillin in Wasilla | October 4, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Those taxes are a complete lie..
Sarah Palin says she’s just an average Joe Six-pack like the rest of us. WRONG…she lives in a $500,000 dollar house on a lake right in the middle of town, with her husbands private plane tied to their dock.
Media stop this silly reporting… She and first dude just lie, lie, lie.
Tell her to go back so she and first dude and continue with their facade in Alaska… He is running things and she is just the dumb wife who has some sort of degree.. OMG! This is not candyland!
Posted by: CapSimmons | October 4, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
I think the comment “tax attorney that supports obama” – says it ALL!!!!
Look how much this great family gives to Charity – let’s look at obama & biden – again. Oh – except for the millions obama “donated” to that radical pastor – Rev Wright!
Posted by: Molly | October 4, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Tax treatment of per diem can be confusing, so let’s keep it simple and look at just one part of the issue. What is Palin’s tax home?
Palin’s spokesperson claims tax home is the governor’s mansion located in Juneau, since Juneau is her “duty station”. However, Alaska’s own policy states that one’s duty station is not their tax home, if they do not work their at least half the year.
“If the employee does not work at their PCN duty station at least 50% of the time (vacation time does not count toward time worked at the duty station), then the State must first consider whether the employee works the majority of their time at another location, making this location
their principle place of business. If they do, this other location becomes their tax home.”
http://fin.admin.state.ak.us/dof/travel/resource/tax.pdf
Since Palin spent 312 nights out of her first 19 months in office as governor at Wasilla, it is clear under Alaska’s own policy that her tax home is Wasilla and not Juneau.
That Palin improperly failed to pay taxes on the $17,000 of per diem is beyond dispute.
Posted by: FactFinder44 | October 4, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Palin cheated on her taxes, and so did McShame. He has claimed to play craps quite regularly, but yet he did not claim any winnings in ’06 or ’07.
Now this is what I call reform!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 4, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Here is another thought, maybe he always looses.
That’s it, he is just a big looser!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 4, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
she’s not as ‘middle class’ as they would have us believe… with 1 million in assets and an extremely low cost of living she is doing pretty well for herself.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04palin.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin
Posted by: Jane | October 4, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Palin’s claim that her “tax home” in the governor’s mansion in Juneau is clearly wrong. Since she worked more than half the time in Anchorage, Anchorge is her tax home.
“If the employee does not work at their PCN duty station at least 50% of the time (vacation time does not count toward time worked at the duty station), then the State must first consider whether the employee works the majority of their time at another location, making this location their principle place of business. If they do, this other location becomes their tax home.”
http://fin.admin.state.ak.us/dof/travel/resource/tax.pdf
Posted by: FactFinder44 | October 4, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Huh???? Special understanding with the state of Alaska & the IRS on taxable income? That SMACKS of special treatment. But then, Palin wouldn’t know about the rules that the rest of us follow. She makes up her own.
Posted by: Sick of Sarah | October 4, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
As long as Sarah Palin winks, she can say whatever she wants on her taxes LOL
http://www.loloclock.com/palin-wink.gif
Posted by: FriendlyFred | October 4, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
I have always known she’s a fraud!!
Posted by: themanwhosawtomorrow | October 4, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
How can women vote for mccain? He does not believe in equal pay for equal work for women?
Posted by: themanwhosawtomorrow | October 4, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
How can women vote for mccain? He does not believe in equal pay for equal work for women.
Posted by: themanwhosawtomorrow | October 4, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Wake Up People !! Barack Obama was and is a made member of the “Chicago Machine” run by “King” Richard Daley II. His mentor is State Senator Emil Jones, who just retired, and had his lackeys place his son on the ballot for his seat. He also endorsed Todd Stroger, who replaced his father John Stroger as Cook (Crook) County President, where we have the highest sales tax in the nation at 10.25%. Then there are his associates; the hypocrite “God Damn America” Rev. Wright, who is moving into a newly-built million-dollar home in the mostly white suburb of Tinley Park, convicted felon and Daley crony Tony Rezko, and terrorist William Ayers. CHANGE?? Yea sure, the White House will become Chicago City Hall East !!
Posted by: Troll Lord | October 4, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
she’s not as ‘middle class’ as they would have us believe…
Posted by: Jane | Oct 4, 2008 5:30:55 PM
________________
Correct, she’s not “middle class,” she’s no class at all.
Posted by: rhbate | October 4, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Hi all,
I’m another Australian who is following the American campaign with great interest…
THANK YOU AHEAD OF TIME FOR LEAVING OUT THOUGHTS OF RACISM, SEXISM, AGEISM in your intelligent analysis of Presidential Candidates on offer this November.
Please keep your attention focused on all campaigns and what is very importantly offered and/or not offered to your country.
What happens in American Politics will always affect countries such as Australia. And I care about people which includes ‘you’ and your country.
PLEASE, PLEASE back off from the ‘mud-slinging’ to one another and really THINK which candidate for Presidency would best serve YOU, YOUR FAMILY & YOUR COUNTRY. Don’t use your vote as a ‘pay back’ to political parties, people etc. you hate.
I wish you luck in your observation and analysis of the current campaigns – and the day you eventually ‘tick the boxes’ in November.
And I wish the world luck too and hope that the people of the United States of America vote with INTELLIGENCE!!!!!!
Just remember ‘Every step you take, every move you make – I’ll be watching you’…
Posted by: emp. | October 4, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
The reason her tax returns were delayed and then released on a Friday is that the McCain campaign knows that not including the per diems on her return was WRONG. I guess McCain thinks those nasty tax rules just apply to the “little people”.
Posted by: fam | October 4, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Obama’s Crazy Crew can promise the sun. Let’s get real! Stop letting the elite beltway media tell you who you should vote for. Check out PitbullPalin.org to show your vote.
Posted by: Johnathan Glen | October 4, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Here’s more to see what O’Bambi will do for you.
INTERESTING DATA JUST RECEIVED ON TAXES
>
> Spread the word…..
>
> This is something you should be
> aware of so you don’t get blind-sided.
> This is really going to catch a lot
> of families off guard. It should
> make you worry.
>
> Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:
>
> CAPITAL GAINS TAX
>
> MCCAIN
> 0% on home sales up to $500,000
> per home (couples) McCain does not
> propose any change in existing
> home sales income tax.
>
> OBAMA
> 28% on profit from ALL home sales
>
> How does this affect you?
> If you sell your home and make a profit, you
> will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
> If you are heading toward retirement
> and would like to down-size your
> home or move into a retirement
> community, 28% of the money you
> make from your home will go to taxes. This
> proposal will adversely affect the
> elderly who are counting on the income
> from their homes as part of their retirement income.
>
> DIVIDEND TAX
>
> MCCAIN 15% (no change)
>
> OBAMA 39.6%
>
> How will this affect you?
> If you have any money invested in stock
> market, IRA, mutual funds,
> college funds, life insurance, retirement
> accounts, or anything that pays
> or reinvests dividends, you will now
> be paying nearly 4 0% of the money
> earned on taxes if Obama become president.
> The experts predict that ‘higher
> tax rates on dividends and capital gains
> would crash the stock market yet
> do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
>
> INCOME TAX
>
> MCCAIN (no changes)
>
> Single making 30K – tax $4,500
> Single making 50K – tax $12,500
> Single making 75K – tax $18,750
> Married making 60K- tax $9,000
> Married making 75K – tax $18,750
> Married making 125K – tax $31,250
>
> OBAMA
> (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
> Single making 30K – tax $8,400
> Single making 50K – tax $14,000
> Single making 75K – tax $23,250
> Married making 60K – tax $16,800
> Married making 75K – tax $21,000
> Married making 125K – tax $38,750
>
> Under Obama your taxes will
> more than double!
> How does this affect you? No explanation
> needed. This is pretty
> straight forward.
>
> INHERITANCE TAX
>
> MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
>
> OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
>
> How does this affect you? Many families
> have lost businesses,
> farms and ranches, and homes
> that have
> been in their families
> for generations because they could not
> afford the inheritance tax.
> Those willing their assets to loved
> ones will not only lose them tothese taxes.
>
> NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
>
> * New government taxes proposed on
> homes that are more than
> 2400 square feet
>
> * New gasoline taxes (as if
> gas weren’t high enough already)
>
> * New taxes on natural resources
> consumption (heating
> gas, water, electricity)
>
> * New taxes on retirement accounts
> and last but not least….
>
> * New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
> so we can receive the same
> level of medical care as other
> third-world countries!!!
Posted by: NEEDED INFO | October 4, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
This woman Sarah Palin is a total liar. She does not have capability, not only that, she is a evil doer just by watching her winks six times during the debate makes me vomiting. Obama/Biden’08!
Posted by: FemaleVoter | October 4, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
What about Charlie Wrangel? Didn’t pay taxes on income (claimed he didn’t know he had to)and he is head of the Ways and Means Committee! No wonder we are in the mess we are in with people like Wrangel, Frank, Dodd, Pelosi and Reid in charge! Dem-wits get control of the House and Senate for less than two years and the country really starts falling APART! You liberals will be crying for good ol’ Bush after the Dem’s get done raping and pillaging our country!
Posted by: Independent | October 4, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Sarah Palin for VP? – Thanks, but no thanks!
- Slogan, Slick, Shallow at debate
- cheat on taxes
- uneducated (6 schools to get a BS)
- ban books = ignorance = abuse of power
- can’t put together a complete English sentences at interviews (what a JOKE)
- corrupted governor getting paid staying her own home (poor tax payers are paying)
- revenge to fire her ex brother-in-law (what a hatred evil women)
- WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR in her talk all the time
Scary dangerous woman running Alaska. She should be in Jail!
Posted by: Independent | October 4, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
I see ABSleeze is right on the trail of another non-issue on Palin. They are normal people so ABC will harrass them to no end, but they ignore and give Biden the cheapest member of congress a total pass. Ignore all his lies and the obvious question as to why this looser would be trusted with the allocation of taxpayer money when he makes 300K and has nothing to show for it. It is patriotic to redistribute our money, but he cannot donate any of his 300K to charity! What a pig!
Posted by: ubu1991 | October 4, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Give the poor woman a break! With Putin constantly “rearing his head” into Alaskan airspace, how can we quibble over a fraudulent tax return?
Posted by: smokey | October 4, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
“Oooo there you silly Neo- Cons go again. Just spreading your hurtful lies.” I guess you can lead a Republican to the truth and in typical GOP brainwashed manner they just wnat to strangle it to death. Good job guys. It’s fun watching the RNC types bend over backwards frothing to distort the truth. Lesson: what does a Republican do best? Answer: LIE
Posted by: Joe Dante | October 4, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
I BALIEVE GOV SARAH PALIN NOT, BARAK OBAMA…
Posted by: MIKE OKC,OK | October 4, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
I BALIEVE GOV SARAH PALIN NOT, BARAK OBAMA…
Posted by: MIKE OKC,OK | October 4, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
MICHELLE LAXALT,
REPUBLICAN NOT SUPPORTING PALIN
Ask yourself why Michelle Laxalt — (a Republican consultant)says she has serious doubts about supporting John McCain as long as Sarah Palin is on the ticket.
Quote from interview by Larry King.
“The concerns center around, number one, the fact that Senator McCain made this decision predicated upon, Larry, a one hour meeting with Governor Palin. And beyond that, we’re looking at the oldest potential president in our country’s history. He has had melanoma three times. So we cannot look at a vice president in the abstract.”
“In this instance, we have to look at a vice president and ask ourselves can that vice president assume the presidency from day one?”
“And I’m telling you that I have a huge difficulty with answering yes to that question when it’s posed to me, for instance, by my daughters.”
Posted by: PaulinVanc | October 4, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
G. Gordon Libby
Keating 5
nuf said.
Posted by: Chris | October 4, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
What happens to palins income, when she actually claims all of it though?
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 4, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Why can’t we just find a candidate that has our interests at heart. If most of them were in the private sector they would be fired or in jail. Barack Hussein Obama has come from thugs, thiefs and crimanls. That has been documented, John McCain has a solid background and is a true American. Barack Husseins wife preached that she is only now proud to be an American,,,WHAT… she is 44. Michelle, I will pay for a one way ticket to Iran for you and your spineless husband that is the most leberal tax and spend guy this country has ever seen. It would be like putting the Mafia in charge of the white house. Give me all your money I know how to spend it better than you do.
The sad thing is we send good people to congress and they get swayed by the dark side after a few years and become corupt, it is a sad commentary on our system.
John and Sarah are somewhat close to the mainstream Americans we need to lead this country and control the checkbook of the tax payers.
Let us hope whoever wins has us Americans in mind when they make decisions.
Posted by: alpha_m31 | October 4, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
You Obamanuts are funny. You’re more concerned over a small amount of Taxes? Us taxpayers just got screwed for nearly $850 Billion! Thanks in part to your dear party whose connections to Fannie Mae peddling worthless loans all for the sake of getting votes. Throw in the Trillion Dllar Tax Increase Charlie Rangle has in the wings after Obama gets elected.
Posted by: Kenny Jones | October 4, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Get off the per diem. It isn’t the McCain ones that say her tax home is her work residence. It is the state that says that. Compard to the past governor who spent $500000 of state funds Sarah is very furgal. You all are making soemthing out of nothing. Man how I would like to meet you in person. No wonder she doesn’t trust the press.
Posted by: Hank Irelan | October 4, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
oh just great, ms. patriotic-straight-talker is a maverick at not paying all her taxes!!
Posted by: earthisnotflat | October 4, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
oh just great, ms. patriotic-straight-talker is a maverick at not paying all her taxes!!
Posted by: earthisnotflat | October 4, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
They took the gag off Palin and are now sending her around the country to slam Obama in any way she things she can do damage. I don’t buy the cutesy, winking, down home bull. It is rehearsed and phony. They are trying to draw attention away from the fact that McCain’s has no real plans, other than Bush’s same old, borrow to pay for a war we should never have been in, attitude. McCain, in my opinion could care less about anything but winning and demonstrated it when he picked Palin instead of somebody with class, a brain and someone ready to step in if need be.
Posted by: Olivia | October 4, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
If Obama wins, it will be by giving the American people false hope and exploiting their fear of Bush-like policies for the next 4 years. People want to vote for him because he offers change, but change isn’t always good. With our troubled economy, we can’t afford someone like Obama. He has lots of big plans that make people hopeful, but it will take BIG spending to do it. People are getting so caught up in defending/attacking Obama and McCain that they are not being objective. No matter which one of these men win, America will lose.
Posted by: Becky | October 4, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
BECKY POSTED “If Obama wins, it will be by giving the American people false hope and exploiting their fear of Bush-like policies for the next 4 years….”
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Sorry, Becky, but what this country needs more than anything is hope. The whole worldwide economy is based on perception and confidence. Obama will, in my opinion, be the best person to give hope, to inspire confidence and to do what has to be done. Face facts, I don’t think either party is going to be floating in money to do a lot, but dragging on this war is not helping. Bush won the last election on fear…he scared us all into believing if he did not win the terrorist win. That was garbage….I would rather base my vote this time on hope rather than fear.
Posted by: Olivia | October 4, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Americans need to drop their loyalty to a particular political party and stick with their principals. How many people out there are voting for one of these men because you want to do anything you can to keep the other guy out of office? We do have other choices. Don’t want to be a spoiler? Check out http://www.votepact.org
I’m sick of the same old politics. It’s the same every election cycle with Democrats and Republicans duking it out as though they are the only ones that matter. Dems and Reps worked together to get us into this mess. They betrayed us, yet the people remain loyal to them because of their party affiliation? Would you still vote for one of these men if they were a 3rd party candidate?
The world must be laughing at us. Talk about hypocrites. We cry for change, but make the same mistakes over and over. We preach about freedom and then allow our government to take control of more and more of our affairs. What will it take for this country to wake up?
Posted by: Becky | October 4, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Olivia, what exactly do you hope Obama will do?
Posted by: Becky | October 4, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
People wanted Bush because he’s a
‘cowboy’ & now were supposed to fall for this ‘maverick’ crap. McSame was saying as recently as last March that all deregulation was good. I guess Maverick means he’s an eratic flip-flopper. Why would he pick Caribou Barbie? Really do we want a VP meeting w/ foreign leaders who only knows how to flirt with them.
Posted by: kristina | October 4, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
YEAH….SHE IS ALSO THE ONLY FEMALE! DUH!
Posted by: Darla | October 4, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Beauty and the Beast were surprised at how well the pitbull did in the debate. But Joe Six Pack wasn’t fooled. So now they are back to their old tricks- character assasination, lies and distortion.
Posted by: fdr | October 4, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Oh- nOooooooooooooooo….Obama ordered to show his real birth certicate not that fake certificate of live birth which is not a birth certificate.
.
link
Judge Orders Obama to Produce Birth Certificate
Posted by: Dr. Richard Swier | 10/04/2008 4:10 PM
On September 29, 2008 US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick, the federal magistrate for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ruled in the matter of Philip J. Berg vs Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the world was distracted by the $700 billion subprime mortgage crisis. Obama signed a breathe of relief as the mainstream media chose to ignore the question:
“Can Senator Barack Hussein Obama legally seek the office of President of the United States?”
The flap began in June when National Review’s Jim Geraghty raised the question and asked the Obama Campaign to release a copy of his birth certificate in order to prove that he actually was born in the United States. (Reports had previously surfaced claiming that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother, Sarah Hussein Obama, told reporters that Obama was not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya. She reportedly told reporters that when her son, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. returned to Kenya he was accompanied by a pregnant white wife who was close to term.)
Posted by: chattyway | October 5, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
Lies, b.s., childish name innuendos,McCain is too old, Palin thinks she’s better than Obama? That really is pathetic, she can’t raise her own family let alone put her spin on the advancements we’ve made to have us go backwards with her & McCain instead of forward with Obama & Biden. Americans are too smart for that we don’t want another 4 years of what we’re trying to dig out of today. We can’t afford another 700 billion bailout hell we can’t even afford this one. Palin’s winking and come hither manner is so disgusting ~ imagine if Biden had done that all during his responses. Maybe she’s bipolar ~ who knows…………
Posted by: greengal8 | October 5, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Liberal media Abc news here!! ABC did not mention her charity contribution! She contributed 8 thousand dollars to charity. Joe Biden contributed 300 dollars, yet he makes 300,000 per year. This does not even includes his other incomes not reported.
Posted by: yodaxl7 | October 5, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Looks like Mac Daddy McCain still likes the ladies.
He’s PIMPING out Palin.
Posted by: jack - San Diego | October 5, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
Looks like the McCain/Palin “white flag of surrender” is waving generously her in michigan!
Posted by: jeremy - detroit | October 5, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am
Obama runs with anti-american racist ideologues, which if I am not mistaken is potentially a NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT
yet ABC is right back on nitpicking Palin on everything from her husbands 22 year old DUI to taxes.
Obama MSM = Evil
Posted by: Badger | October 5, 2008, 5:42 am 5:42 am
Record 70 million view the veepee debate, as Biden fibs 14 times. Say It Aint So, Joe
Posted by: Badger | October 5, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am
With that type of Income she and her husband would be better off VOTING for Barack.. And i know they do , Her husband even said he never VOTED for a Republican BEFORE and we now see why .
When you are rich and wish for more breaks and could care less about anyone else you VOTE for the NEO-CON republicans.
ladies and gents the IRONY of it all you just cant make this stuff up.
Posted by: alan | October 5, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
Just more nit piking about nothing by the Media.
Posted by: John Pen | October 5, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
Oh goodness gracious, more much ado about nothing, more biased digging by the media. Ok then, if you are going to be this detailed about Palin, who has only been on teh campaign for 5 weeks, then be FAIR, and do similar digging for Obama:
– where are his illinois state senate records?
– His Columbia university grades? How did he get into Harvard?
– His whereabouts on Nov 6-7, 1999, where Larry Sinclair alleges they had a meeting?
– His real birth certificate from the day he was born?
So, media, I give you this challenge. Will you do your job and investigate this man, who is dangerously close to being our president,a nd we know nothing about him?
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Posted by: John Pen | October 5, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
OBAMA HAS BASED HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES. HE HAS TOO MANY TIES TO TERRORISTS AND ANTI-AMERICANS. DON’T FORGET “God Damn America” JEREMIAH WRIGHT, PFLEGER, FARRAKHAN, AYERS, REZKO (TO NAME A FEW). BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS A DANGER TO OUR COUNTRY. Obama’s ties to organizations like “ACORN” caused much of the country’s mortgage foreclosure issues. ACORN IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR “VOTER FRAUD” IN MANY STATES! Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
I’m voting for the Honorable John McCain in November.
STOP THE DRAMA – NO OBAMA!
Posted by: REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS!
Posted by: John Pen | October 5, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S BULLYING OF THE CLINTON CANDIDACY DURING THE PRIMARY SEASON WAS THE FIRST REVELATION OF HOW MISOGYNISTIC AND SEXIST THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS BECOME. The democratic party has moved from taking the female vote for granted to outright contempt for women. That’s why Sarah Palin represents the most serious conservative threat ever to the modern democratic liberal claim on issues of male cultural and social superiority.
THE TIME IS NOW FOR A WOMAN TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AS AN EQUAL PARTNER IN GOVERNANCE.
COUNTRY FIRST! JOHN MCCAIN/SARAH PALIN
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Posted by: John Pen | October 5, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
Fellow Democrats….Obama needs us now more then ever……Vote early and Vote often!
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | October 5, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Remember these words:
McCain and Palin use lies and deceit for political gain. They would rather lie than lose. That’s the truth on the matter.
Don’t forget, Palin, who has a child with DS cut the Special Olympics Fund in half in Alaska. Thats 275,000 dollars. She did this herself then she claims the need to help children with needs? Hypocrite. Oh and don’t forget about McCains ties to wide right wing racism and the The Keating Five Savings and Loans Bank Failures of the late 80′s. If McCain attacks Obaama on something he knew nothing about, that is ayers, then the Force will turn around and bite him back. I would suggest you McCain-Palin supporters learn to have a little compasion before it’s to late.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL,
Manny
Posted by: Manny | October 5, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
I believe that one key reason that she will not subject herself to media scrutiny is that SOMEONE will ultimately ask her about the story of Track’s arrest. She has several options in her possible responses. “No, he was never arrested.” “I’m not going to talk about my children.” “I am not ever going to talk about any stories that others are suggesting are about my family.” The first answer might be an outright lie or the truth. If she lies about it then that is pure folly no matter what the subsequent rationalization. The second answer suggests that it may be true because why not just say that the story is not true. Why by providing a non answer leave out there that it is possible that the story is true. And the third is just a general statement that provides some possible cover for not answering any comments about her children. ABC and CBS would not ask that question (FOX? I can’t stop laughing about any possibility for anyone there asking questions that deserve an answer). Before I go too far – this story is relevant BECAUSE – she is painting a picture that her son’s enlistment is about patriotism while it is really possible that it is a solution to a criminal charge as a juvenile. It could come down to how many parts patriotism versus how many parts a required solution. It could just be a convenient or even a required solution to a major problem. I am sure that the Alaskan press knows if he was involved but cannot ID him because of his rights as a juvenile.
Posted by: Sskepticall | October 5, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
It looks like she is not like any of us. It looks like she is in it for the money and any other benefits she can get. We should check more closely to her tax returns.
Posted by: Luis Young | October 5, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
If McCain/Palin supporters are so worried about Obama’s vague association with a 60′s radical (if they continue so say terrorist then McCain associates with terrorist in the pro-life people who bomb clinics) – then why no outrage over the Palin family’s association with the anti-secession group in Alaska? Is not wanting to break fom the United States as radical as you can get? Did Ayers kill anybody? No – have anti-abortionists – yes; have fundamentalists Christians? Yes (read about the associations of Timothy McVeigh) — McCain doesn’t get it — most people just care about their job; tanking retirement; if he wants to go negative then get ready to say hello to the Keating 5; Cindy’s drug addicition and stealing drugs; McCain’s affairs and Cindy’s affair with a Married man and her being the first mistress in the White House if elected; and more about Palin supporting the charging of the price of rape kits to rape victims in her town – while leaving the town $20 million debt for a sports arena –
Posted by: Auntie Cairo | October 5, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Jeez people, unless you walked on water during your childhood\teenage years, leave the kids out of this!
Posted by: Loves this country | October 5, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
In his memoir, Obama writes of one of the watershed moments of his racial awareness — time and again in remarkable detail. It is a story about a Life magazine article that influenced him. The report was about a black man who tried to bleach his skin white. When Obama was told no such article could be found in Life, he says “it might have been Ebony.He is 9 years old, living in Indonesia, where he and his mother moved with her new husband, Lolo Soetoro, a few years earlier. One day while visiting his mother, who was working at the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, Obama passed time by looking through several issues of Life magazine. He came across an article that he later would describe as feeling like an “ambush attack.”The article included photos of a black man who had destroyed his skin with powerful chemical lighteners that promised to make him white. Instead, the chemicals had peeled off much of his skin, leaving him sad and scarred, Obama recalled.“I imagine other black children, then and now, undergoing similar moments of revelation,” Obama wrote of the magazine photos in “Dreams.”Yet no such photo exists, according to historians at the magazine. No such photos, no such article. When asked about the discrepancy, Obama said in a recent interview, “It might have been an Ebony or it might have been … who knows what it was?” (At the request of the Tribune, archivists at Ebony searched their catalogue of past articles, none of which matched what Obama recalled.)In fact, it is surprising, based on interviews with more than two dozen people who knew Obama during his nearly four years in Indonesia, that it would take a photograph in a magazine to make him conscious of the fact that some people might treat him differently in part because of the color of his skin.
2003 Barack Obama in 2003, talking to the AFL/CIO:“I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare coverage. That’s what I’d like to see.”In January, 2008, Obama claimed in a nationally televised debate:”I never said that we should try to go ahead and get single-payer.”
2004
In Obama’s famous DNC Convention speech, Obama says, “My father was a foreign student, born and raised in a small village in Kenya. He grew up herding goats, went to school in a tin-roof shack. His father — my grandfather — was a cook, a domestic servant to the British.”
Kezia, Obama Sr.’s first wife tells a story that puts Obama’s account to lie.
Kezia said: In 1955 Obama Sr. was 18 and working in an office in Nairobi, when he took Kezia from her family at the age of 16. Her father was furious.
“He did not like Obama. My father and brothers came to Nairobi to bring me back. They said I had to go back to school.
“When I wouldn’t, they said they would never speak to me again.
“Barack was also worried about what his father would think because I was so young, but he gave us his approval. Obama’s father (often described as poor) sent my mother and father 14 cows for my dowry.
Just how can a cook, a domestic servant to the British, provide a dowry of 14 cattle for Senior’s first wife? Also, Obama’s father had been working in a Nairobi office since the age 16, not herding goats.
As an aside, can you imagine if a Republican was running for president and it came out that his father had bought his first wife for 14 cows???!!!Just wow!!
2004
Responding to questions about his intent to serve out the six year senate term, Obama says, in this video, (link removed), that he will not run for the presidency in four years.Notice: The video has disappeared. Using WayBackMachine, I found two links — both played empty videos — a lot of stuff is being scrubbed from the web.Here is what he said in the video:“I think I’ve been very clear. Ah-ah-mumble-mumble, there’s a presidential election in four years. I’m not running for president in four years.”Here is a backup story — during a meeting with reporters at his Illinois campaign headquarters after his election to the U.S. Senate, he ridiculed as “a silly question” whether he would run for president or vice president before his term ends in 2011. “I’ve never worked in Washington,” he said. “I can unequivocally say I will not be running for national office in four years, and my entire focus is making sure that I’m the best possible senator on behalf of the people of Illinois.”
2004
On July 28th, the day after his speech at the Democratic convention catapulted him into the national spotlight, Barack Obama told a group of reporters in Boston that the United States had an “absolute obligation” to remain in Iraq long enough to make it a success.”The failure of the Iraqi state would be a disaster,” he said at a lunch sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, according to an audiotape of the session. “It would dishonor the 900-plus men and women who have already died. . . . It would be a betrayal of the promise that we made to the Iraqi people, and it would be hugely destabilizing from a national security perspective.”In late winter, 2008, on the campaign trail, Obama says he wants to bring the troops home yesterday — you decide — was he lying then or is he lying now?
2006
On the January 22nd edition of “Meet the Press,” Tim Russert and Obama had the following exchange:Russert: “When we talked back in November of ‘04 after your election, I said, ‘There’s been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your six-year term as United States senator from Illinois?’”Obama: “I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed.”Russert: “So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?”Obama: “I will not.”
2007
As another example, consider Obama’s stirring tale for the Selma audience about how he had been conceived by his parents, Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham, because they had been inspired by the fervor following the “Bloody Sunday” voting rights demonstration that was commemorated March 4. “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama,” he said, “because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama”Obama was born in 1961, and the Selma march occurred four years later, in 1965. The New York Times reported that when the senator was asked about the discrepancy later that day, he clarified: “I meant the whole civil rights movement.”
2007
Obama went on to tell his audience that the Kennedys — Jack and Bobby — decided to do an airlift. They would bring some young Africans over so that they could be educated and learn all about America. His grandfather heard that call and sent his son, Barack Obama, Sr., to America.The problem with that scenario is that, having been born in August 1961, the future senator was not conceived until sometime in November 1960. So, if his African grandfather heard words that “sent a shout across oceans,” inspiring him to send his goat-herder son to America, it was not Democrat Jack Kennedy he heard, or his brother Bobby, it was Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.Actually, Senior was awarded an American sponsored scholarship in economics to the University of Hawaii at Manoa. He was selected by a former Kenyan cabinet minister, the late Tom Mboya, who was earmarked as the successor to Jomo Kenyatta, Kenya’s first prime minister.The presumption was that Senior would return to Africa and use his “Western-honed skills in a new Kenya.”
2007
On January 24, the Obama campaign released a statement, saying, “To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.On March 14th, in a statement to The Times, the Obama campaign offered this statement to correct their previous statement, that appears to be a bold-faced lie:”Obama has never been a practicing Muslim. The statement added that as a child, Obama had spent time in the neighborhood’s Islamic center.”And, the original statement began, “To be clear …”So, in three months, Barrack’s campaign has gone from describing the U.S. presidential hopeful as never having been a Muslim and never having been raised as a Muslim to now never having been a practicing Muslim.What’s with the semantics? Statements from Obama’s campaign appear to have evolved, to say the least.
2007
On March 25th, the Chicago Tribune reports that an extensive search found no basis for an episode Obama recounts about a picture he ran across in Life magazine of a “black man who had tried to peel off his skin” in a failed effort to use chemicals to lighten it. Obama writes that “seeing that article was violent for me, an ambush attack.”The Tribune continued: “Yet no such Life issue exists, according to historians at the magazine. No such photos, no such article. When asked about the discrepancy, Obama said in a recent interview, “It might have been an Ebony or it might have been … who knows what it was?”At the request of the Tribune, archivists at Ebony searched their catalogue of past articles, none of which matched what Obama recalled.”
2007
On March 27th, Obama, tells the crowd at fundraiser , “I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution.”For the record, Obama is a “Senior Lecturer (on leave of absence)” at the University of Chicago Law School. He has taught Constitutional Law III: Equal Protection and Substantive Due Process, Current Issues in Racism & the Law, and Voting Rights & the Democratic Process.
2007
On May 8th, Obama, caught up in the fervor of a campaign speech Tuesday, drastically overstated the Kansas tornadoes death toll, saying 10,000 had died.”In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed,” the Democratic presidential candidate said in a speech to 500 people packed into a sweltering Richmond art studio for a fundraiser.The death toll was 12.
2007
On May 10th, Obama botched his facts in a speech criticizing the U.S. auto industry for “investing in bigger and faster cars while foreign competitors invested in more fuel-efficient technology.”Obama stated that “while our fuel standards haven’t moved from 27.5 miles per gallon in two decades, both China and Japan have surpassed us, with Japanese cars now getting an average of 45 miles to the gallon.” But Toyota, which should know, has responded, “No carmaker gets 45 mpg; ours is closer to 30 mpg.”Well, we’re glad to see Obama’s shifting the blame from the consumer to the automakers. That must explain why the Illinois Senator and Presidential candidate owns a HEMI-powered V8 Chrysler 300C.Obviously it’s Chrysler’s fault Obama bought a big 5.7-liter engine from them — he just didn’t have a choice.
2007
During his 12 years in politics, Sen. Barack Obama has received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted businessman, Tony Rezko and his associates, than he has publicly acknowledged, the Chicago Sun-Times has found.Seven months ago, Obama told the Sun-Times his “best estimate” was that Rezko raised “between $50,000 and $60,000″ during Obama’s political career.However, Obama has collected at least $168,308 from Rezko and his circle. Additionally, Obama also has taken in an unknown amount of money from people who attended fund-raising events hosted by Rezko since the mid-1990s. Everything you ever wanted to know about Obama and Rezko.
2007
Responding to criticism of his disrespect of the flag of the United States during the National Anthem, Obama defended himself by saying “My grandfather taught me how to say the Pledge of Allegiance when I was 2.”
He didn’t even remember what he was doing on September 17th, when Obama, Hillary and Bill Richardson attended the Steak Fry of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) in Indianola, IA.How can he possibly remember what happened when he was two years old?
2007
On October 6th, Obama accused his fellow American citizens of the indiscriminate murder of Iraqi civilians, saying, “And these private (Blackwater USA) contractors, they go out and they’re spraying bullets and hitting civilians and that makes it more dangerous for our troops.”Obama lies with the same ease as the Clintons and proves that he will say anything to win the nomination and election.
2007
Last fall during a nationally televised presidential debate, Obama hesitantly raised his hand and joined with most of his Democratic rivals to declare that he opposed decriminalizing marijuana. (first video).But as a candidate for the U.S. Senate four years ago, Mr. Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use or possession, according to a videotape of a little noticed debate that was obtained by The Washington Times.”I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws,” Mr. Obama told an audience during a debate at Northwestern University in
2004
“But I’m not somebody who believes in legalization of marijuana.” (second video).Asked about the two different answers, Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign said he in fact has “always” supported decriminalizing marijuana as he answered in 2004, meaning the candidate mistakenly raised his hand during the presidential debate last fall.
2007
On the 1st of December, Obama said, “I’m not running because I’m trying to fulfill some long-held plan.”Oh, really?Iis Darmawan, 63, Obama’s teacher in 1970, remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. “He wrote an essay titled, ‘I Want To Become President,’” the teacher said.In 1971, Obama’s sister Maya, has also said, “There was always a joke between my mom and Barack that he would be the first black president.”In 1991, David B. Wilkins , the Kirkland and Ellis professor of law, said he advised Obama to become a Supreme Court Clerk. “Obama recognized the honor in pursuing that post,” Wilkins said, but quickly added that he wasn’t interested.“He said that he wanted to write a book about his life and his father, go back to Chicago, get back into the community, and run for office there. He knew exactly what he wanted and went about getting it done,” Wilkins said.
1992
Obama’s brother-in-law, Craig Robinson pulled him aside and asked about his plans. “He said, ‘I think I’d like to teach at some point in time, and maybe run for public office,’” recalls Robinson, who assumed Senator Obama meant he’d like to run for city alderman. “He said no — at some point he’d like to run for the U.S. Senate. And then he said, ‘Possibly even run for President at some point.’ And I was like, ‘Okay, but don’t say that to my Aunt Gracie.’ I was protecting him from saying something that might embarrass him.”
1993
Obama began teaching at the University of Chicago Law School, where he declined to pursue a tenure-track post, hoping to save time for politics.
The one thread, that remains consistent, throughout Obama’s life, is his teacher’s, mentor’s and friend’s recollection of Obama’s single-minded pursuit of high political office.
2007
On December 22nd, in a small-town café in Pleasantville, Omaha, Obama was asked a question that typically only circulates on the Internet.
As he sat down to have a slice of pie with a small group of potential voters and an elderly woman asked him about being Muslim.
“I’ve always been a Christian,” the Illinois Democrat responded. “I have never practiced [Islam].”Note: The newspaper editors had to add the word, “Islam.”In his autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” Obama mentions studying the Quran. He was enrolled in two Jakarta schools as a Muslim. His teacher Tine Hahiyary said that she remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran).” Classmate Rony Amiris described Obama as being a very devout Muslim, saying, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.” Another classmate, Emirsyah Satar, now the CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, “He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a ’sarong.’” (See Obama’s Education.)Yet, on his official campaign website, Obama has posted this statement, “Barack has never been a Muslim or practiced any other faith besides Christianity.”Obama’s grandfather was a Muslim. Obama’s father was a Muslim. Obama’s stepfather was a Muslim. His African relatives are Muslims. What was he for the 27 years before his alleged conversion if he wasn’t a Muslim?
If Obama has always been a Christian, why was he enrolled in two Jakarta schools as a Muslim, and why did he study the Quran?And note his Clintonesque defense, “I have never practiced.”
This is Obama’s biggest problem — his dissimulation.
Saying, “I’ve always been a Christian,” is a bold-faced lie.
2008
On January 22nd, the Hillary Clinton Campaign releases a video that proves that Obama lied about his position on “single-payer healthcare.”The video compares statements Obama made during the January 21st Democratic debate with those he made to an AFL-CIO conference in June 2003 while campaigning for the Senate. Contradicting what Obama said at the debate, the old footage shows the senator saying, “I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare coverage. That’s what I’d like to see.”At the debate, Obama stated: “I never said that we should try to go ahead and get single-payer (healthcare).”Single-payer healthcare is an euphemism for socialized medicine.
2008
February — As Sen. McCain has pointed out, Obama promised to use public funding in the general election if the Republican candidate would do so also. Well, McCain has agreed to it, but now Obama wants to back out of the deal. After all, when he made the promise, he didn’t have a chance of raising more than the public’s $85 million stipend. But now that he can raise $300 million, well, what’s a little untruth between the waited-for one and his people? Yes, he can.
2008 On February 29th, the Obama campaign told Canadian Television (CTV) that no message was passed to the Canadian government suggesting that Obama does not mean what he says about opting out of NAFTA if it is not renegotiated.However, the Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obama’s senior economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue. On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any questions to the campaign headquarters.CTV didn’t stop there. They announced that their sources, at the highest levels of the Canadian government,” reconfirmed the story to CTV and one of their primary sources provided a timeline of the discussion to CTV.
2008
On March 2nd, Obama told another whopper while criticizing Hillary Clinton.Obama said that Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a fellow Democrat from neighboring West Virginia, had read the intelligence estimate as a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and after a brief pause said the then-chairman had voted against the war resolution.However, Rockefeller was not the chair at the time and voted in favor of the war authorization. Sen. Bob Graham of Florida was the intelligence committee chair in 2002 and voted against the resolution. Obama did not mention Graham’s name in the passage.His exact words are, “She didn’t read the National Intelligence Estimates. Jay Rockefeller read it. But she didn’t read it. I don’t know what all that experience got her because I have enough experience to know that if you have a National Intelligence Estimate and the chairman of the national, um, Senate Intelligence Committee says you should read this, this is why I’m voting against the war, that you should probably read it. I don’t know how much experience you need for that.”
2008
March 7th — Obama’s courage: Contrary to a recent hyperbolic campaign ad, it wasn’t “courageous” to give his 2002 anti-war speech, primarily because he delivered it at an anti-Iraq war rally.At the last debate, America’s former co-president claimed that it was easy to give that speech, and it wasn’t a gamble for him because he wasn’t in the US Senate and therefore wasn’t in a position of responsibility. Obama’s impassioned reply was, “I was in the midst of a U.S. Senate campaign. It was a high-stakes campaign.”Wrong. In reality, Obama did not announce his intentions to run for the US Senate until January 2003.
2008
March 7th — Obama say he doesn’t take money from DC lobbyists and special interest PACS. This is the type of double-talk “politics of the past” rhetoric Obama rails against.While his claim is technically true, what he does do is take money from state lobbyists and other big money contributors who have substantial lobbyist machines in DC, like law firms and corporations.In April 2007, the LA Times quoted the Campaign Finance Institute’s Stephen Weissman as pointing out that the distinction Obama makes on lobbyist money is meaningless: “He gets an asterisk that says he is trying to be different. … But overall, the same wealthy interests are funding his campaign as are funding other candidates, whether or not they are lobbyists.”The Capital Eye reported that “[a]ccording to the Center for Responsive Politics, 14 of Obama’s top 20 contributors employed lobbyists this year, spending a total of $16.2 million to influence the federal government in the first six months of 2007.”Obama’s no stranger to being influenced by those campaign donations, either.
2008
March 14th — In one of the biggest lies he ever told — Obama says he “vehemently condemns” the words of his pastor and mentor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, an official member of Obama’s campaign, as a member of Obama’s African American Religious Leadership Committee. What an absolute pile of crap!Obama says he’s never witnessed or heard these statement before.
2008 March 14th — OK, OK! Maybe he didn’t hear those words. But what about Reverend White’s words that appear in Obama’s very own book, “Dreams of My Father.””It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere… That’s the world! On which hope sits!”Reverend Wright spoke of Sharpsville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State House.
2008 March 14th — Barack may not have heard Wright’s rants, but did he read them?In the Trinity United Church of Christ Bulletin, January 21, 2007, on pages 9 and 10, “The Pastor’s Page,” are these words:”We have lost over 3,000 boys and girls in an illegal and unjust war, and the media is on a feeding frenzy about Barack Obama’s church. Where is the outrage about the 3,000 dead American military personnel and the 600,000 dead Iraqi civilians who are dead for no reason other than greed and ego? What’s goin’ on?””I use his words today on the third Sunday of a New Year to keep before you the painful truth of who we are and where it is we are in this racist United States of America! What’s goin’ on?””The reality, however, is that the entire war in Iraq and the larger “war on terror” have been based on lies, half-truths and distortions to serve the agenda of the United States imperialism. Where is the public outcry? Where is the outrage? What’s goin’ on?”He may never have heard Wright actually say the U. S. was racist or some aspiring empire. But he never read it in his bulletin? Ever?
2008
On Friday, the 14th, presidential candidate Barack Obama repudiated what he called “inflammatory and appalling remarks” made by his Chicago pastor.Obama said he had not been present during the sermons in question.Obama told MSNBC, “Had I heard them in church I would have expressed that concern directly to Rev. Wright.”Please note, he says that he would have expressed concern, not repudiate, the wordsYet, in this video, “the Rev” places Obama in the congregation, by saying, “There is a man here, who can take this country in a new direction” and he points at him.In the next clip, during Wright’s 2007 Christmas services, Wright rails, “Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a process that is controlled by rich white men, Hillary can never know that, Hillary ain’t ever been called a ni**er!”
While Wright rails, “Bill did us like he did Monica Lewinsky,” Wright’s successor, Otis Moss III, jumps into the picture frame, attempting to high-five “the Rev.”
Barack was in Chicago for Christmas 2007 and Wright is addressing him from the pulpit. Will Barack say me didn’t attend Christmas services?
When Obama said, “Had I heard them in church …” Obama lied. He listened to Wright’s sermons for 20 years.
These two men, Obama and Wright, are two peas in the same pod.And before I get feedback from the loony libs, remember, it was Obama, himself, that wrote these words in “‘Dreams of My Father,” — “I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.”
And, please notice the congregation in that video. They are going nuts during Wright’s preaching. All of them believe this “evil white man” crap and eat it up.
The whole bunch of them are the worst kinds of hateful racists — and remember, Wright’s congregation is composed of successful, educated African-Americans.
2008 And on the same day, he admits to another whopper!Obama now says Rezko played a bigger fundraising role.Indicted Chicago businessman Antoin “Tony” Rezko was a more significant fundraiser for presidential candidate Barack Obama’s earlier political campaigns than Obama has previously admitted. Rezko raised as much as $250,000 for the first three offices Obama sought, the senator told the Tribune on Friday.Obama also said for the first time that his private real estate transactions with Rezko involved repeated lapses of judgment. The mistake, Obama said, was not simply that Rezko was under grand jury investigation at the time of their 2005 and 2006 dealings. “The mistake was he had been a contributor and somebody involved in politics,” he said.And this from a guy who is running for office based upon his judgment.
2008 March 15th — Will Obama deny he was in attendance at the controversial Chicago church when the pastor referred to “white arrogance” and “the United States of White America” on July 22, 2007, accompanied by his Secret Service detail.Wright laced into America’s establishment, blaming the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the woes of the world, especially the oppression suffered by blacks. To underscore the point he refers to the country as the “United States of White America.” Many in the congregation, including Obama, nodded in apparent agreement as these statements were made.
Posted by: More Obama\DNC lies | October 5, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Do you know why Obama campain has tried to collect a lot of money from people? while a lot of Americans are struglling to find food daily life.
Because Obama campain pay a for media to attack McCain-Palin, they did this to Hilary Clinton.
I do not trust some media sources like ABC.
Posted by: helen | October 5, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Some media – megazines said Dr. Phill is going to get Divoce??????????????????
Posted by: helen | October 5, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
It is so pathetic on how media have a favor toward obama/biden. And how you have to use every details to reveal Palin’s.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind you guys try to investigate a candidate but why don’t you do both sides? be fair, let Americans decide who we want to have for the next president/vice president. Enough medias don’t try to control on who we will selected. Some Americans smart enough to dig and analysis every news, but how about some of them who just swallowed what medias said? You don’t educated people but you control and stir people to do what you want. Sad.
Posted by: Lisalynna | October 5, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Lisalynna, I am a software engineer but Sorry my English is not my first language
Posted by: helen | October 5, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Lisalynna, I am a software engineer but Sorry my English is not my first language
But my brain is always the same. I do not trust media. I saw how they killed Hillary, and now they are trying to killed Palin. They may get pay from Obama. Most of terrists like Obama and want Obama to be president of US, so they can easily get into US. haha.
Unfortunately, nowsaday there are more stupid American than smart American, so that why US is in this ……
Posted by: helen | October 5, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
What about us -the rest of the world? People around the world are scratching their heads-is this a joke or bad dream? You will choose president of the world. President who will make life or death decision for millions of us. Half of americans could be wrong but not the whole world. WE DO NOT WONT PALIN!!!!!!!!!! This woman is disgrace for your country and women intelligence.Do I have to explain why? We watch your news too. Many of her supporters will tell me-It is not your business. My answer will be: as long America starts wars and innocent people are hurting around the world it is
my business.I am one of millions. Palin is disgrace for humanity.Thank you, but no thank you.
Posted by: Anna | October 5, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
As I read through the majority of the comments here, most of you gents and ladies sounds so bitter and disgruntled. The truth of the matter is, neither Mc Cain nor Obama will fix that bitterness. No president of the country could fix a disgruntled soul. That is a spiritual issue that one may think is political. Watch out, 2 years from now after the elections, not one of these presidents will fix that disgruntled soul. It is time to look up to God and not to man!
Posted by: Eunice | October 5, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Again we recognize the republicans here. Look for the racial looking remarks and prejudicial attitudes to any one that might show difference of opinion or independence of thought.
Now they are trying to tie Obama to all sorts of people, in the weirdest manner too.
It does not add up that someone subscribes to another persons thinking because he/she was on the same commitee or board as that person. Isn’t that why we have boards and committees too? There are dirrent opinions. But then again saying this to Republicans might be confusing.
Are those people that were in the bank that the employee stole from were robbers themselves because they worked there at the same time?
The notion that the Republicans seem to put out that if a person does not fit this very narrow image (which seems to be getting narrower in contradiction to what is actually happening)is narcissistic, prejudice and discriminitary. Its this portrayed disrespect for anyone who does not fit this image that as caused America to be losing popularity, and it is time we get it back.
Barack Obama is 100% American. He is even more American than those who would question this because to denigrate a person’s character because his father might have been born else where is rdiculous. If this is to be used as a measurement, then every person in America other than native Americans need to check on their character. Why you ask? (Republicans?) Because we would all be on a level playing ground. Since in reality, none of us originated here. Many people have moved here from different places. This means everyone is not going to be like you.
The only reason why Obama’s character and association is been brought into question is because McCain has nothing to offer America. He cannot win. So Obama has to lose. It is a tactic of desperation. One may call it a strategy if you want. But I really hope it does not turn out to be strategy. It makes America look weak.
McCain would like to be president. What does he have to offer, so that all Americans can pursue their dreams on an equal footing. I am yet to hear him put forward something substantial of his own.
Posted by: jg | October 5, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
I was about to go when I saw a comment by Dave from 10/3. It is a perfect example of what I was saying in my previous comment. So far I have not missed. Interesting.
Posted by: jg | October 5, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
I’m humored by those on both sides calling others ignorant and then they themselves use the word your when they should use you’re. “Your” means it belongs to you. “You’re” is a contracton for the words you are.
Vote Socialist!
Vote Obomah!
Why should anybody work? All the government has to do is print money!
More money for teachers!
More money for policemen!
More money for firefighters!
More money for farmers!
More money for women who get pregnant so they can live off the state!
More money for free meals!
More money for health care for seniors!
More money for Wall Streeters who destroyed our economy!
Just print the damn stuff and give it away! What difference will it ever make?
Take from those who work and give to those who watch Oprah!
And when those who work get tired of working, just give them money for watching Oprah too! After all as the man in Germany said, Obamah is the new messiah. And many people, probably women, since they are the majority of her viewers, see Oprah as the spiritual leader of the new age. Four years from now things should be just great.
Posted by: chrwysdad | October 5, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
It was wrong go me to insinuate that teachers, policemen, firemen, farmers, and mothers don’t work, we all know they do, but it needs to be faced up to that there are two groups of people in the country. Those who pay taxes and those who derive income from tax revenue. When the latter becomes larger than the former the whole system collapses.
Posted by: chrwysdad | October 5, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
But people working in the public sector do pay taxes, you say. If a public sector worker earns $10 dollars and pays $2 in taxes the pot is down $8 dollars. If a private sector worker earns $10 dollars and pays $2 dollars the pot is up $2 dollars. In this example it takes three private sector workers to keep the pot even for each public sector worker. So the public sector workers can believe they are paying taxes but in reality they aren’t. They are actually rebating a portion of their income. Only those working in the private sector increase the pot. People like Obama will never give it to you straight, but just wait until you see the tax increases needed to pay for the things he wants. And yes, you public sector workers will have to rebate a greater percentage of what you were given from the pot. Very simplified, but this is the basis of public vs. private sector economics.
Posted by: chrwysdad | October 5, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Sara Palin knows how to feign a dodge and pretend that she reduces taxes through tax avoidance (using legal loop holes and provisions that people are permitted to do) and actually does the tax evasion scam thing which is a felony. How else did she claim travel expenses for herself and her family while sitting at home? If Sara comes to power the game is over as civil liberties will go out tghe window. She fired a good librarian who would not get rid of some books in the library that other people wanted to read but which Ms. Palin thought were crowding the shelves. She did this in her capacity as a Governor. How on Earth she became a Governor beats me as she has a below average IQ. I suspect it was because she was a beauty queen who had friends in high places. Wow!
Posted by: ananth | October 5, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
HEY IF PALIN IS NOW “SMART AND CONFIDENT” THEN WHY ISN’T SHE APPEARING ON THE SUNDAY SHOWS TODAY??
Gee I don’t think Sarah Palin is on ANY of the Sunday News shows today. Also since the debate I haven’t seen a press conference either…
I think I know why, because Palin is the same DOLT we saw on Katie Couric last week, that’s why!!
You can’t hide her from the press forever McCain, we the American people will notice!!
HEY, TINA FEY NAILED PALIN’S DEBATE PERFORMANCE ON SNL LAST NIGHT, IT WAS GREAT!!
The hit count at: http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/
Is already close to a MILLION VIEWS! This should take the wicked witch of the north down a few points in the polls come Monday!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 5, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Down with Obama / Soetero, and his shady mentors, affiliations, and friends. Look at his choice of church for 20 years. He can not be trusted to have any authority over our lives.
Posted by: Badger | October 5, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
BEYOND EMBASSING, MCCAIN IS PATHETIC !!!
First The Savings and Loan and Now Wall Street. No Maverick. Corrupt McCain.
From the Wikipedia. Unlike McCain’s Lies, This is The Truth. Same McCain, Different Failure. Our Country cannot afford McCain/Palin.
The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).
The core allegation of the Keating Five affair is that Keating had made contributions of about $1.3 million to various U.S. Senators, and he called on those Senators to help him resist regulators. The regulators backed off, to later disastrous consequences.
Posted by: Woman for Change | October 5, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981,[10] and McCain was the closest socially to Keating of the five senators.[21] Like DeConcini, McCain considered Keating a constituent as he lived in Arizona.[18] Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.[22] In addition, McCain’s wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating’s expense, sometimes aboard Keating’s jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating’s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln.[6][23]
Just as the Savings and Loan Failed back then, so now does Wall Street and the Mortgage and Banking Institutions. McCain thought then that the fundamentals of the Savings and Loans were sound. He has been responsible for so much failure in this economy. Treating Wall Street Like they did the Savings and Loan.
From the Wikipedia. Unlike McCain’s Lies, This is The Truth. Same McCain, Different Failure. Keating 5.
Posted by: Woman for Change | October 5, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
McCain’s VP Choice Is Under Ethics Investigation For Abuse Of Power In Alaska»
Palin’s reformer image took a hit last month when she was accused of attempting to get a state trooper fired. That state trooper was her former brother-in-law who had gone through “a messy divorce” with her sister. After the trooper’s boss wouldn’t act on the governor’s request, she fired him. Though Palin says she doesn’t “have anything to hide” and she “didn’t do anything wrong there,” an investigation has found that one of her aides pushed the firing:
Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday revealed an audio recording that shows an aide pressuring the Public Safety Department to fire a state trooper embroiled in a custody battle with her sister.
Palin, who has previously said her administration didn’t exert pressure to get rid of trooper Mike Wooten, also disclosed that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper.
Palin’s scandal envelops her in the constellation of scandal-plagued lawmakers currently serving in Alaska. Here’s a brief overview:
Sen. Ted Stevens: Last month, long-serving Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens was indicted by a federal grand jury “with seven counts of making false statements for failing to disclose” gifts of over $250,000 from the oil services company VECO Corp.
Posted by: Change Agent | October 5, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
PALIN HAS A BRAIN TO NOWHERE
Palin lied about the Bridge To Nowhere. Even when they showed her supporting the bridge 3 different times during 3different dates, she still lies and say she said thanks but no thanks. Clear and Blatant Lies. Congress stopped the Bridge to Nowhere, but Palin the crook kept over 200Mil.
Palin lied and said she is a maverick against earmarks,
Palin requested and got over 100K last year and requested 200K so far this year, the largest per capital than any other state in the United States.
Palin and McCain lied and said they had a crowd of 10,000 when it was 3,500 people
Who lies about crowds. They then lied and said they had 23,000 when it was 8000.
Palin lied when she said her teleprompter went out and she was winging her speech, but hundreds could see the teleprompter working and that she clearly lying.
Palin manipulated her position and got paid 44K worth of daily per diems allot for overnight travel, except that she was at home.
Palin fired a Librarian. The Librarian later got her job back and then left because of the traumatic experience with Palin the dictator.
Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 5, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
TRUTH FROM A NEWS ARTICLE AND NOT LIKE PALIN AND MCCAIN CONSTANT LIES.
Gov. Sarah Palin has surrendered important gubernatorial duties to the Republican presidential campaign. McCain staff are handling public and press questions about actions she has taken as governor. The governor who said, “Hold me accountable,” is hiding behind the hired guns of the McCain campaign to avoid accountability.
Posted by: American for Change | October 5, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
PALIN IS AN UNQUALIFIED AIRHEAD WHO
WINKS AND LEARNS HER LINES
Palin fired Monegan for a personal vendetta and lied on him and got caught by an ABC investigation. McCain sends a top US Attorney to Alaska to get her out of it and says its Obama and democrats fought for Palin’s criminal behavior which shows how senile he really is.
Palin claimed executive privilege on 1,100 emails after she said she would fully cooperate because she has nothing to hide.
She hired her school mates with no qualifications for high level positions. Her head of Agriculture told her she likes cows and she was hired.
Can You Imagine What She Would Do In The White House ???? Are you really ready for her Wasilla classmates to come to Washington??????
NO WAY !!!!! OBAMA/BIDEN 2008
Posted by: Woman for Truth | October 5, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Extremely Scary!!!! Extremely Unsettling!!!! And you McCain/Palin supporters may think she is cute when she winks and memorizes lines and you sell her dolls like you are in a ballpark watching a game, but there are Real Enemies of Ours who would not negotiate with and Airhead who knows nothing and would regard her as a JOKE and you voting her in would make you the JOKE also. You would be asking for Danger. Make “Say It Ain’t So Joe” go home. If that does not scare you, nothing will !!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 – Country and Security First !!!!!
Posted by: Change Agent | October 5, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
If idiot Palin ever met with Pittin and said I can see you from my house.
He would blow her up and say. Now you see me and now you don’t.
You need someone with knowledge and someone who truly intelligent and not someone who had past criminal charges like McCain or someone who is currently under criminal investigation like Palin and from the looks of this article who also cheated on her taxes, but claims it’s okay because she worked out with the IRS. Maybe she winked at them.
This would be funny, if it weren’t true and Frightening. McCain who doesn’t know when our economy is in trouble and Palin who does know the name one magazine she reads. President and Vice President.
I agree with Change Agent. OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 Country and Security First !!!!
Posted by: American for Change | October 5, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Joe Biden donated to charity with a salary of approx. $350,000. in 2007, $950.00 and $380.00 in 2006. This is less than my husband and I donated with a combined income of $82,000. I guess charity donations don’t get him elected but the middle class paying more taxes for his special interest pork barrel progects does. Guess that’s why Joe Biden thinks paying more taxes is patriotic. It helps him get elected, but giving to charity doesn’t self serve him enough.
Posted by: conf1689 | October 5, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
If an airhead Palin ever met with Puttin and said I can see you from my house.
He would blow her up and say. Now you see me and now you don’t.
You need someone with knowledge and someone who is truly intelligent and not someone who had past criminal charges like McCain or someone who is currently under criminal investigation like Palin and from the looks of this article who also cheated on her taxes, but claims it’s okay because she worked out with the IRS. Maybe she winked at them.
This would be funny, if it weren’t true and Frightening. McCain who doesn’t know when our economy is in trouble and Palin who does know the name one magazine she reads. President and Vice President. I don’t think SO !!!!!!
I agree with Change Agent.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 Country and Security First !!!!
Posted by: American for Change | October 5, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
SEND MCCAIN BACK TO HIS 7 HOUSES AND 13 CARS AND SEND PALIN BACK TO ALASKA TO ANSWER FOR HER ILLEGAL ACTIONS AND HER IRS AUDIT.
Extremely Scary!!!! Extremely Unsettling!!!! And you McCain/Palin supporters may think she is cute when she winks and memorizes lines and you sell her dolls like you are in a ballpark watching a game, but there are Real Enemies of Ours who would not negotiate with an Airhead who knows nothing and would regard her as a JOKE and you voting her in would make you the JOKE also. You would be asking for Danger. Make “Say It Ain’t So Joe” go home. If that does not scare you, nothing will !!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 – Country and Security First !!!!!
Posted by: Change Agent | October 5, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
If Palin earns the lowest wages, wondering how she managed to accumulate some 2 million in assets as reported on another News site. If Palin truly does have 2 million in assets, she is one heck of a soccer, hockey mom. Wonder if all soccer, hockey moms are that wealthy. Wondering if any of them are single. If Palin does have that wealth, she is not representative of the average voter, blue collar worker and the majority of white collar workers.
Posted by: Lawrence | October 6, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am
DATELINE-WASHINGTON: AUG. 17, 2010: President Obama spoke yesterday about the global recession and defended his 80% tax rate for the richest Americans, those making over $50,000 per year. ” It is time for Americans to be patriotic and pay for their years of greed,” Obama said. This comes just days after Obama proposed a $1 trillion bill to fold ACORN into HUD and offer grants of up to $100,000 per person in low-income areas to buy an ACORN approved home.
Homeland Security Secretary William Ayres greeted Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the Oval Office today. The two chatted chatted for over an hour over fair-trade tea and cookies. While no transcript of the conversation was available, Ahmadinejad was overheard asking Ayres, “..so what is the best environment to place a bomb?”
Posted by: The Future | October 6, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Palin may make less money, but Obama and Biden are the cheapest! They really are quite patriotic with our money, but want to keep their’s all to themselves. What do they say Charity Begins at home, but just not their home.
Posted by: ubu1991 | October 6, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
ANYONE WHO SAYS OBAMA IS AN ANTI CHRIST…YOU THEN NEED TO LOOK AT YOURSELVES IN THE MIRROR!
I’M A CHRISTIAN BELIEVER AND THIS COMMENT IS BEYOND ALL LOGIC! AND YOU FOLKS CALL YOURSELVES CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS?
OPEN YOUR BIBLE…GOD LOVES ALL OF US SINNERS.
Posted by: Aurora Fam | October 6, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Barack O’Bama is my clear choice for
President, I am a conserative Republican and I lived thru an uneducated Pres., that I voted for and I will not vote for another 5th from the bottom of his class again, Magna Cum Laude from Harvard is my choice.
Poor John I pity him, a poor choice for VP she’s a disgrace, a lousy Mother.
Immorality should be her name, she let her daughter down.
Signed Sarah
Posted by: Sarah | October 6, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Barack O’Bama is my clear choice for
President, I am a conserative Republican and I lived thru an uneducated Pres., that I voted for and I will not vote for another 5th from the bottom of his class again, Magna Cum Laude from Harvard is my choice.
Poor John I pity him, a poor choice for VP she’s a disgrace, a lousy Mother.
Immorality should be her name, she let her daughter down.
Signed Sarah
Posted by: Sarah | October 6, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Did Palin get special treatment? The State of Alaska’s own policy required it deem her tax home to be Anchorage, which means that she was not entitled to per diem while in Anchorage.
Here is the official Alaska document. http://fin.admin.state.ak.us/dof/travel/resource/tax.pdf
A link to comments from a Lewis and Clark Law School tax professor. “Palin Per Diem: State didn’t follow its normal policies.” http://fin.admin.state.ak.us/dof/travel/resource/tax.pdf
Posted by: Ricky | October 6, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Replace Do nothing Dems in Congress said:
“Obviously, she is a quick study.
Just imagine what she will be like after four years as vice president!”
Oh yes, the pride of the community college system, jumping from one low rent school to the next, and gaining a scholarship based on winning a beauty contest.
Or McCain, graduating 894th out of a class of 899.
Or Obama, who graduated with distinction from Harvard….
Yes, you are right – McCain and Palin have a lot to learn.
Posted by: wade_b | October 6, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
It is amazing how ridiculous the media portrays republicans. It seems like it’s a crime to want Americans to work, strive for more (for themselves), and be accountable for their own actions. It’s simple…everyone work, we only help those who are genuinely in need…not those idiots who abuse the system, my tax dollars, and the empathy of Americans. Yes, I do empathize with those less fortunate. I have been one of those less fortunate. I’ve always had to work hard for what I NEEDED or wanted. Nothing was ever given to my family, even during times of POVERTY. We made it through those tough times and there’s no doubt that made me a hardworking, strong, contibuting citizen of the United States. My request is for all Americans to quit listening to the media…they are all biased. Quit listening to Hollywood…they all WASTE billions of dollars on their ridiculous labels and still manage to “worry” about the poor. Give your $8000 you just spent on a purse to someone who actually needs it. I’m sure you’ll only use that purse once anyway. I’m sure this won’t be posted, since I’m on a website that leans towards promoting democrats and sympothy towards those who take and take from our country. I have been poor all of my life….until I got off my ass and took control of how I wanted my life to turn out. Now I have the options to help those less fortunate than me…those who truely are less fortunate.
Posted by: Angie Alberson | October 7, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Barack Hussein Obama actively sought and received the stamp of approval of a Marxist third party that operated briefly in Chicago between 1992 and 1998.
The New Party was a Marxist political coalition whose objective was to endorse and elect leftist public officials — most often Democrats. The New Party’s short-term objective was to move the Democratic Party leftward, thereby setting the stage for the eventual rise of new Marxist third party.
Most New Party members hailed from the Democratic Socialists of America and the militant organization ACORN. The party’s Chicago chapter also included a large contingent from the Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and Communist Party USA members.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | October 7, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Well, Palin did say she didn’t think it was patriotic to pay taxes. I guess she mean it literally.
Posted by: truthytooth | October 7, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS!:I’m
not concerned with Governor Palin’s tax returns.
I more concerned why a measly tax return like this
took sooo long to produce. Was it because she had
to find excuses for her exemptions that sounded
legit?
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REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS!: I am
concerned about all the lies Obama has told. I am
concerned with Obama’s ties to terrorists, anti-
Americans and the corrupt “organizations” he has
been associated with.
Hummm, What about your pal McCain having ties
in the Iran-Conta deals? This seems to be a closer
timeline than Obama’s dealing. Keating 5 never
seems to go away either. (seems like the old OJ
Simpson innocent verdict is always haunting him)
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REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS!:
OBAMA IS THE “GOLDEN BOY” SELECTED BY THE
DNC AND BIASED MEDIA.
You may have a good and refreshing point on this.
Most members of the RNC can’t stomach McCain,
never mind his policies. How is ANY bill going
to pass through a new Democratic Congress and
Senate with this type attitude.
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REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS!:
watched the debate between Governor Palin (5
weeks of national debate experience) versus
Senator Biden (35 years of national debate
experience).
Biden was very austere with his comments. Though
had this been a male opponent, I’m positive that
the kid gloves would have come off.
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REPLACE DO-NOTHING DEMS IN CONGRESS! : Obviously, she is a quick study. Just imagine what
she will be like after four years as vice president!
I agree, but your saying she will be a vice president
with training wheels. No wonder Cheney gave us
one of his trademark smirks, when ask if she has
his expertise in VP affairs.
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She has been a Mayor and a Governor. She is more
qualified than anyone running.
This type experience shows me nothing. I want to
see her leadership. Dealing with different state
issues. A state with 600,000 people? Heck there
are at least 20 cities in the US with that number of
people!
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John McCain showed great judgment in choosing
her.
I would say it was a great misjudgment in
choosing her
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It’s too bad the DNC and biased media didn’t
“select” Biden or Hillary. OBAMA HAS BASED HIS
ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES. HE HAS TOO MANY
TIES TO TERRORISTS AND ANTI-AMERICANS.
Your starting to repeat yourself again, The
medication must be wearing off.
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DON’T FORGET “God Damn America” JEREMIAH WRIGHT, PFLEGER, FARRAKHAN, AYERS, REZKO (TO NAME A FEW). BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS A DANGER TO OUR COUNTRY.
Oh I have a List of McCain winners:
Rick Davis,who ran an advocacy group for Freddie
Mac is campaign manager, McCain embraced the
right’s agents of intolerance, even spending
months courting the Rev. John Hagee, whose fringe
views about Roman Catholics and the Holocaust
were known to anyone who can use the Internet.
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Obama’s ties to organizations like “ACORN” caused
much of the country’s mortgage foreclosure issues.
The jury is still out on this one. Everyone with
greed is involved with this crisis.
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ACORN IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR “VOTER
FRAUD” IN MANY STATES!
Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
There are also voter tampering in states. This
issue is a national problem which needs to be
addressed, who ever wins.
IF YOUR BRAIN HAS GONE
INSANE THEN VOTE McCAIN
Posted by: spacerook1 | October 7, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Abuse of power, tax cheat, terrible parent, loser beauty pageant contestant.
Palin: naked calculating ambition
Posted by: cosmosis | October 21, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Todd and Sarah Palin: members of a treasonous secessionist group.
Posted by: cosmosis | October 21, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm