By Natalie Gewargis

Oct 21, 2008 10:27am

Poll Cats: Illinois, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Wyoming

Illinois — 56-32 Obama, 10/18, Chicago Tribune
New Jersey — 59-36 Obama, 10/19, Quinnipiac University
Pennsylvania — 52-42 Obama, 10/20, Muhlenberg College/Morning Call
Wyoming — 58-32 McCain, 10/14, Mason-Dixon/The Casper Star-Tribune

- jpt

User Comments

I’m here earlier than usual this morning because I am so upset about what is going on in the important states concerning voter fraud. FOX has announced actual VOTER FRAUD, not simply voter registration fraud. And then there are the voters in Florida that arrive to vote with ballots all filled out, where all they have to do is copy what is on their copy of the ballot. It is thought that many ase non English voters are concerned in this practice.
My fear is growing with every report of FRAUD that OBAMA AND HIS GANG may actually pull off a fraudulent election. They did it in the primaries.

Posted by: HP Boston | October 21, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Jack – are going to have any discussion on what Biden said about world crisis if Obama elected – bet ABC won’t touch this one.

Posted by: jamescbuilder | October 21, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

I am a pretty average American. I don’t have a college degree, I’m not a liberal, and I don’t live in a big city. I don’t see Obama as my enemy any more than McCain.
Eight years ago I was rooting for McCain and got stuck with Bush. This time around I just don’t believe McCain is up to the task at hand. He’s not even the same guy, something about the campaign has changed what I thought he stood for.

Posted by: LR | October 21, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

HP BOSTON
Dont worry my friend after nov 4 you will be off Mccains payroll

Posted by: ANGIE | October 21, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

HP…you need to relax! “a universal historical fight between good and evil”?
And to jamescbuilder…look back at some of the blogs yesterday, people did “touch” on this already.

Posted by: Greg in Mpls | October 21, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

A bunch of REPUBS getting arrested in WV for VOTER FRAUD. But it’s probably obama’s fault because he’s not like the rest of us. He’s not”PRO-AMERICAN” nor are these parts of america that he’s winning

Posted by: Sarahpalinisstupid | October 21, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Boston
Fox News!!! Oh, my god! The pillar of truth and fair reporting!!! I live in fear of Fox News and their unbiased and honest reporting. Get this, yesterday I filled out my ballot while sitting at my kitchen table and then actually drove down to the Auditors office and dropped it off.
Any one who quotes fox or watches fox or listens to fox is a loser.
Obama up 13 pts this morning. Truth and honesty will overcome McCain and Palin.

Posted by: democratic | October 21, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Last week it was reported that the Bush admin had been bringing both candidates in for security briefs by the CIA so that there transition will be more smooth regarding National Security Issues .
Now Biden is coming out and saying he ‘guarantees’ we will be faced with some kind of ‘test’ during the first 6 months .
Here’s the part that gets me – he goes on to say that we will not agree with the ‘direction’ the Obama admin is going to take in this conflict .
What we also know is that Israel has contemplated bombing Iran if Obama gets in because they don’t trust that he will side with Isreal .
SOOO – I think they may have some idea of Isreals real plans and I also think that Obama has decided to side with Muslims and Iran and will try to sell us his plan , and that’s what Joe is talking about when he says we won’t agree with Obama’s decision .
This is my theory and gut feeling , and I think all of America needs to really consider what their position is on protecting Isreal and they should know what’s at stake here …

Posted by: HP Boston | October 21, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

You would stick Wyoming in there for what reason? Not exactly a swing state…

Posted by: matt | October 21, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

HP Boston,
These undocumented reports lieing about voter fraud in Democratic leaning constituencies are a pre-planned and well calculated effort by the Repubs to invent a pretext to suppress Democratic votes.
Democrats learned from 2000 and 2004 and this year the Dems are waiting for you Repubs.
There are 2000 Lawyers in Florida to fight any attempts at vote supression and about 13,000 volunteers and lawyers in North Carolina and Virginia.
We know what the Repubs with their racist code words as “non English voters” and “non photo ID voters”, etc., etc. are capable of and this time we have them just where we want them.
We are waiting for the Repubs and we will have them locked up if they intimidate any of our voters.
It is time to apply all Election laws.

Posted by: Steve_NJ | October 21, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

IS IT OVER???
News from the Votemaster
McCain Concedes Colorado, Iowa, and New Mexico
CNN is reporting that McCain is making those tough decisions that politicians love to talk about. According to CNN, McCain is abandoning Colorado (9 EVs), Iowa (7 EVs) and New Mexico (5 Evs). If Obama wins these three he gets 21 EVs. Add these to the 252 EVs Kerry won and he has 273 and becomes President. McCain’s strategy at this point is to win Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Missouri, Nevada, and–get this–Pennsylvania. The first six are arguably swing states, but our three-poll average puts Obama 12 points ahead in Pennsylvania. McCain is effectively betting the farm on a state which looks like an Obama landslide. It is a strange choice. Colorado looks a lot easier than Pennsylvania. James Carville once famously said that Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama sandwiched in between. Maybe McCain is going to go all out to win the white working class men in the Alabama section of Pennsylvania. McCain can’t possibly do it on the economy. What’s left? Maybe run against the Wright/Ayers ticket? Any way you look at it, this has to be a desperation move.

Posted by: Steve_NJ | October 21, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

If mcCain palin were elected
it would be like putting a nail in our own coffin
it would be like the nation being one of those drunk morons in a bar who says to his two friends that they know best and starts a fight with the local softball team.
idiots and bad people got us Bush Cheney
and idiots and bad people are trying to get us Mccain Palin.

Posted by: dl | October 21, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

So when are they going to send Mclame packing the repubs should have picked RON PAUL I would have voted for a republican for the first time in my life then.

Posted by: Joe | October 21, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

GOP VOTER FRAUD IS TAKING VOTES FROM OBAMA AND GIVING THEM TO MCCAIN IN WV!

Posted by: Sarahpalinisstupid | October 21, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

jamescbuilder: ABC did that story yesterday after took place. You are a day late and actually I don’t think to many people at this point care, we all know Obama can handle it and handle it well, and if he does run into something more than he can I have no doubt in my mind that he will have the top advisors helping. Which would be the same if McCain was in. Only McCain would just say bomb bomb bomb and care less what anyone else thinks.

Posted by: becky | October 21, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Too bad. I really thought we dems had a chance in Wyoming… (not really) Why would anyone waste $ polling in states where the outcome is guaranteed?

Posted by: dem in chicago | October 21, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

John McCain’s campaign has directed $175,000 to the firm of a Republican operative accused of massive voter registration fraud in several states.

Posted by: Sarahpalinisstupid | October 21, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

According to campaign finance records, a joint committee of the McCain-Palin campaign, the RNC and the the California Republican Party, made a $175,000 payment to the group Lincoln Strategy in June for purposes of “registering” voters.

Posted by: Sarahpalinisstupid | October 21, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

The Mccain aide, Daniel Zubairi, had been scheduled to appear on Sanchez’s mid-day program after he was caught on video talking down an anti-Muslim protester outside a McCain rally in Woodbridge, Virginia. But, even after telling the network that an interview was “good to go,” the McCain shop pulled Zubairi at the last minute, leaving Sanchez in limbo on live TV.
So is Mclame trying to projedt ann image of fear and hate?

Posted by: Sarahpalinisstupid | October 21, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Folks, do you hear the cynics crying out for help after Obama has taken and drank all of their milkshakes?
Do you hear them in their final gasp of hopelessness dig deeper in their cynical knapsacks and pull up lint?
Do you see them sinking in rhetorical quicksand never to be heard again?
AHHHHHHHHH, the sweet sound of VICTORY.
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 21, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

the best thing about this election
the people with all their weird whacked lies and spin…
created in some republican twisted brain
will have their volume turned down…
finally back to being the America that leads…
instead of the America that is getting destroyed by bad people and stupidity.

Posted by: dl | October 21, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

But the Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate has pushed the federal government to allow a liquefied natural gas plant to continue exporting to Asia _ the only such plant in the United States that sends the product overseas.

Posted by: Factsonpalin | October 21, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

democratic: And your dreaming. McCain is leading in Ohio and Florida and is closing in on the other battleground states. McCain is ahead by 19% in all five states. ABC,MSNBC & CNN are all pro-obama and they will inflate his polls to make the public believe he is winning this election. Not so. I am not surprised that Biden made a statement to the fact that Obama wouldn’t know what to do in a crisis. We all know that. I don’t know if Biden would know what to do. Both would have Powell take care of the situation. Powell already knows Obama doesn’t have the intelligence to run this country plus because he was afraid of the Bradley Effect he jumped on Obama’s bandwagon in fear.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 21, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Bring down obama? Mclame was born in Panama! I don’t think he’s american. What a terrorist! NO wounder he takes money from firms that lobby for drug lords!

Posted by: Joe | October 21, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

There is a real disconnect between the media and supposed intellectuals/liberals. These people are so smart they cannot see how dumb they are, but ask any ‘average’ american (avoid Harlem though) and they can quote you pages on what is WRONG with Nobama.
This is really a universal historical fight between good and evil. Today it is just being fought with access to television/radio and money; a century ago it was fought with guns; 3 centuries ago fists.
Hopefully right will best wrong this year. We cannot be working hard enough to see this happen….

Posted by: HP Boston | October 21, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

THIS JUST OUT!
McCain is moving his election campaign to a small island in the Atlantic, considering it is the only place still red.
There are three people there and they are all Republicans, hold it, just in, they all changed to Democrats!
McCain is rowing off with his parrot Palin riding on his shoulder while the canoe is taking on heavy water.
MY FELLOW PRISONERS: I know how to row. I’ve rowed before and know how to get the row job done.
Somebody throw Gramps and his parrot a life vest.
IT’S OVER……
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK!!

Posted by: Nat Turner | October 21, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Hp Boston agreed but you my friend are on the wrong side!

Posted by: Sarahpalinisstupid | October 21, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

HP Boston: I agree with you about the Obama gang of democrat dogs. Hillary definately got swindled out of her delegates by Obama and Pelosi. After Dean did his dirty work what happened to him? Did they fire him? The Acorn voter fraud is to make sure Obama wins this election. However, there can be a recount if McCain feels that he won and Obama lost. The government should have taken all the registrations, packed them in cartons from each state and close Acorn down for good. Never to open again. They don’t know how to run the operation and Brunner is as stupid as they come. How did she get to be voted as secretary of state. I cannot believe she is that dumb. And the Supreme Court is just as dumb. They are probably all democrats. If they had filed all registered voters names by alphabetical order this would not have happened and a state ID or driver’s license should have been presented.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 21, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Mariann Pepitone,
Don’t invent numbers give us your sources.
ELECTORAL COLLEGE:
Obama 364
McCain 171
Ties 3
DAILY POLLS (10/20):
Rasmussen: Obama +4
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby: Obama +8
Hotline/FD: Obama +6
AVERAGE: Obama +5.7

Posted by: Steve_NJ | October 21, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

REPUBS:
IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID.
WHAT ARE YOUR PROPOSALS FOR THE ECONOMY?
NONE?
MORE OF THE SAME?
YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK. GOODBYE.

Posted by: Ed from MA | October 21, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

What is the message that is resonating with voters. It is a message of hope, of prophecy. The nasty stuff is losing. …………..

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | October 21, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Obama couldn’t run a cleaning store how could he run this country. Biden and Powell will be handling all the crisis that Biden said is coming if Obama is elected and Obama will be president in name only. Biden and Powell will be advising Obama what to say on the platform because he will stop using the JFK, RFK speeches. How intelligent he is not. He left his brains at Harvard by mistake.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 21, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

New poll shows 84% of Hillary’s supporters are voting for Obama )
Sorry HP, your PUMA hold-a-grudge apparently took a backseat to real issues.
(And Huffington reports that a man involved in actual voter fraud and voter suppression works for the McCain campiagn. Hypocrites)

Posted by: New Poll | October 21, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

The bottom line: During the past 60 years, Democrats have presided over much less unemployment and much more robust income growth.

Posted by: Sarahpalinistupid | October 21, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

At least Hillary knows Sarah palin is stupid and Barack Obama is going to be an awesome president. Mclame=more of the same.

Posted by: Hillaryclintonisahero | October 21, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Mr Obama has used all of the Classic programs of Mind control on the American People.
Power of Suggestion – He Told you what he wanted you to concentrate on, He told you what he wanted your problems to be, what he wanted you to think, what he wanted you to feel, what he wanted you to do. that he wanted you to pick him, That he was the only one who could help you, That he was a good man, a man of faith, That he was the only to change your Government. Telling you to Blame Bush and the Government for all your Problems. Adding in the catch phrases, cue words and slogans, Hope, Faith, Believe, Change, Yes we can. All in a mesmerizing Speech.
Power of Persuasion – He told you stories to fit and and make it seem like he was feeling the same thing as you. He Started telling you We think this, We think that, We want this, we need this, That he was a good man, a man of faith and that the others were not. We can change our government. Telling you to Blame Bush and the Government for all your Problems in the catch phrases, cue words and slogans, Hope, Faith, Believe, Change, Yes we can. All in a mesmerizing Speech
He set up a common Enemy for you to share – It is Hillary fault, It is McCain Fault, It is Bush’s Fault, it is the Governments Fault., for everything wrong in your life and the Country and the World.
Repetition – He told you this over and over and over again, until you believe, Until you thought it was your thoughts, your Ideas, That he was the only good one, that he was the only one who could help you, and he was the only one who could change your government.
Reinforcement – Marketing and Advertising – Using ever means of media available to man, TV, Radio, Billboards, Flyers, mail, Internet, blogs, email, Ads everywhere, Cell phones, phones, Polls, Have a site, Now even in Video Games, Keeping it in your face, 24/7, the barrage of stimulus on your mind.etc., keeping the mind conditioning working.
Staging rallies into other events, to make it seem like everyone came out of their homes and showed up just to see him, So he could make you think everyone wanted him. When Huge events were already going on there, he offered free concerts and other perks, ads and invitations to get those to stay from other events. Tricking your mind.
Obama came from no where with nothing at all
Obama is running on a Speech, which plants seeds in your mind, Marketing and Advertising That stimulates those seeds constantly. With the Barrage of in your face 24/7 stimulating your mind for what he wants. With every available advertising known to man.
Over the next few weeks it will be at a record high level.
What Our Government was suppose to protect us from.
Using and Abusing the American People.

Posted by: seah | October 21, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

McCain Employing GOP Operative Accused Of Voter Registration Fraud
Investigated Multiple Times For Suppressing Dem Voter Turnout…
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As Republican Congressman Chris Cannon summarized during a joint hearing for the subcommittee on commercial and administrative law back in May 2008: “The difference between ACORN and Sproul [Now with the McCain campaign]is that ACORN doesn’t throw away or change registration documents after they have been filled out.”
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What? No. Not the Republicans. They never would try to cheat in an election would they? They’ve never tried to prevent people from voting. And certainly they wouldn’t try to alienate all the people registered bt ACORN as another means to supress votes. Nah, never.

Posted by: Say it ain't so "Maverick" | October 21, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

“Maverick”, I read that one too!
McCain’s GOP cronies are experts at voter suppression. Even Pubs are admitting it happened

Posted by: Rachel in NC | October 21, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

REPUBS:
IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID.
WHAT ARE YOUR PROPOSALS FOR THE ECONOMY?
NONE?
MORE OF THE SAME?
YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK. GOODBYE.
Posted by: Ed from MA | Oct 21, 2008 11:23:11 AM
________________________________________
Ed I agree with you that the economy is the primary issue, but I would also suggest “It’s the republicans stupid.”

Posted by: SeeingABetterWorld | October 21, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

I look at the polls and cannot believe that Obama is ahead. We are a right of center country and the polls point to a far left result. I cannot believe that the conservatives are not standing on street corners, screaming, “What are you people thinking!”
This is a capitalist, individualist country, and Obama wants to turn it into a Socialist collective. Have we learned nothing from the collapse of the Soviet Union and the stagnation of Europe? Socialism does not work. Sure, capitalism has its problems but at least when it works it works marvelously.
Socialism never works. Socialism puts government and academics in charge. We need to innovate ourselves out of today’s current problems. What is Obama offering, a Department of Innovation, which will have party officials handing down decrees to tell the next Steve Jobs how to innovate? Ridiculous!
The only people I see making real money under Obamanomics are lawyers and accountants. We will need lots of them to figure out how to “share” the wealth, we will need lots more to enforce this so-called sharing, and then we will need lots more, hired by the people with the wealth, to avoid sharing. In the end, the people who do not have wealth now will not get enough wealth to make a difference (as Jesus said, “The poor will always be with us”), and the people with the wealth will manage to keep most of it. However, the lawyers and accountants will get rich in the process of fighting over wealth.
While the fight wages to redistribute wealth and regulate every aspect of commerce the economy will tank. Ultimately, in the process of trying to redistribute wealth we will generate a lot less wealth. Those who are poor now will become destitute, and those who are rich now will be less rich.
Why is nobody’s hair on fire about this?

Posted by: David H | October 21, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Somewhere along the way we have lost ourselves. We whom the rest of the world is watching based on our stance re: democracy and trying to reform the rest of the world…. How do we think we are perceived by them as stupid people who are indoctrinating the world about something we ourselves don’t know? Stop and think we say conservative yet we forget “all are created equally” and the ability to think as the song says “no one knows the color of the almighty skin Black, yellow, white or blue what matters. Is it the color of or skin or the color of our eyes… we are losing ourselves values based on ignorance ….I condemn “poly trick sons” for what they are doing instead of tell a hurting country their mandate and how best they will address the needs and concern of yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The lower and middle class …

Posted by: pooh | October 21, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Bush and Caribou Barbie will do or say anything now. They have no honor and no respect. In the end, McShame will go back to Arizona and Barbie will go back to Alaska to face charges.
adios!

Posted by: Gus | October 21, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

‘Hail to the Chief’, President-Elect Barack Obama!

Posted by: Howard Gallas | October 21, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

I have seen paranoid people before, but some of you need help.

Posted by: The Unshrub | October 21, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Instead of solutions for America’s dire economic problems, all we see from the Repubs is more and more nutty conspiracy theories.
Everything is SECRET AND SCARY!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Note to Repubs: America celebrates Halloween for ONE DAY ONLY. Economic issues are important ALL YEAR.
IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!

Posted by: Ed from MA | October 21, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

The election comes down to Colorado and Virginia. If Obama wins them both (currently at least 5% ahead in both states) and keeps all of the current other lean / solid Obama states, it doesn’t matter what Ohio, Florida, and Missouri do.
Obama said he could find a different path to 270 and it looks like he will be correct on this.
McCain pulled out of Michigan too early. I really think they missed an opportunity there and would have made some big gains over the past week if they had a presence there.

Posted by: Steve, AL | October 21, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Hey since all the polls are pointing to President Obama, why continue….for God’s sakes Americans, your voices don’t need to be heard….you are being TOLD who your next President is going to be…you are being TOLD how your money (wealth) will be spread around to your less fortunate brothers and sisters, and you are being TOLD by Biden Obama will be tested in a way we cannot forsee and it will be daunting.
NO ONE TELLING ME TO SUPPORT OBAMA IN OR OUT OF OFFICE.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN, ALWAYS!

Posted by: Hope, Change, Hate, Nobama '08 | October 21, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Two weeks to go, and the game is up for the intolerant, the ignorant, and the incomprehensible. About time, we’ve suffered enough.

Posted by: Vietnam Vet | October 21, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

“Hope, Change, Hate” – QUIT YER WHINING.
YOUR candidate decided to run a gutter campaign at a moment of extraordinary crisis.
YOUR candidate decided to choose an unvetted, unqualified, unprincipled, unprepared snowbilly for a running mate.
NOW HE’S LOSING THE ELECTION AND YOU BLAME THE MEDIA?
IT’S HIS OWN FAULT.
IT’S YOUR FAULT TOO FOR NOT DEMANDING BETTER FROM YOUR PARTY.
REPUBLICANS = REJECTED

Posted by: Ed from MA | October 21, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

What has gotten into you this morning, Mr. Tapper? Cherry-picking polls to make the case that Obama is smashing McCain? How about the other polls that show narrowing? Been to Real Clear Politics today?
I myself am taking all polling, including that favorable to my chosen candidate, with a huge grain of salt this year. Things have just been too squirrely. (Not an ACORN pun) And if polls were all that mattered, we wouldn’t bother to have the actual election. Or maybe the Democrats will try that next, since if they skew the sample well enough, they can usually get the results they like often enough to keep them happy.
Joe the Plumber is resonating. Biden the Gaffe-master’s revelations are resonating. McCain is still in this ballgame.

Posted by: moderate | October 21, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

The inflating of the numbers by Lib Media for Prince Obama could spell disaster if he goes in with a 5 point lead and LOSES…..as Carvelle said, he’d hate to see the scene that might take place after that. What is Carvelle referencing, riots?
NO BAMA, NOT EVER. I WILL TURN OFF THE TV FOR 4 YEARS, AS I CAN’T STAND TO HEAR HIM BLOVIATE.

Posted by: Hope, Change, Hate, Nobama '08 | October 21, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Watching Palin in NV now and she rocks. I think she would be fantastic in Washington, and get Government back on the side of Americans with Sen. McCain. She is the best speaker out of all four. She is excited, energized, upbeat, direct, positive and will be a huge political star either way this election turns out.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN

Posted by: Hope, Change, Hate, Nobama '08 | October 21, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

At least McCain will be taking Wyoming.

Posted by: David | October 21, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Why is nobody’s hair on fire about this?
Posted by: David H | Oct 21, 2008 11:47:59 AM
I look at the polls and cannot believe that Obama is ahead. We are a right of center country and the polls point to a far left result. I cannot believe that the conservatives are not standing on street corners, screaming, “What are you people thinking!”
This is a capitalist, individualist country, and Obama wants to turn it into a Socialist collective. Have we learned nothing from the collapse of the Soviet Union and the stagnation of Europe? Socialism does not work. Sure, capitalism has its problems but at least when it works it works marvelously.
Socialism never works. Socialism puts government and academics in charge. We need to innovate ourselves out of today’s current problems. What is Obama offering, a Department of Innovation, which will have party officials handing down decrees to tell the next Steve Jobs how to innovate? Ridiculous!
The only people I see making real money under Obamanomics are lawyers and accountants. We will need lots of them to figure out how to “share” the wealth, we will need lots more to enforce this so-called sharing, and then we will need lots more, hired by the people with the wealth, to avoid sharing. In the end, the people who do not have wealth now will not get enough wealth to make a difference (as Jesus said, “The poor will always be with us”), and the people with the wealth will manage to keep most of it. However, the lawyers and accountants will get rich in the process of fighting over wealth.
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Wow!!! What we people are really thinking is: “Finally, a ray of intelligence.” This is not a capitalistic, individualistic country. This is a feudalistic country, where the word “feudalism” has been replaced, because the French Revolution proved that it was no longer acceptable. The only thing that has changed is the manner in which the wealth produced by the workers is transferred to the “lords” and “masters”.
When people see the thousands of dollars that are removed from their paychecks for “FICA” purposes (an amount that is matched by the employer, and which is also part of the worker’s compensation), they actually don’t mind because they believe that it is an investment for their future. However, we have seen trillions of dollars removed from “FICA” intended purposes, and transferred to the “lords” and “masters” through “legalized” tax breaks, outright handouts, and payment for goods and services, such as $300.00 dollars for a hammer and $500.00 for a roll of toilet paper. We are living in a feudalistic society, same as our ancestors did for the past millennium or so, when feudalism began to overlap outright slavery.
As for your thoughts on the redistribution of wealth – unless the workers are allowed to keep the major portion of the wealth that they generate, the economy will continue to stagnate. It was the unions that built this country and brought about the conditions necessary for all of the progress that we have experienced.

Posted by: Fred | October 21, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

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