By Julia Hoppock

Oct 29, 2008 2:00pm

Poll Cats: Six Days Out

ABC News Polling Director Gary Langer kicks in with these polls of likely voters in battleground states from yesterday and today.

Colorado — 50-41 Obama, 10/26 AP/GfK

Florida
50-43 Obama, 10/27 LA Times/Bloomberg
47-45 Obama, 10/26 Quinnipiac University
45-43 Obama, 10/26 AP/GfK

Indiana — 48-47 Obama, 10/25 Research 2000/The South Bend Tribune/WSBT-TV

Nevada — 52-41 Obama 10/26 AP/GfK

New Hampshire
58-33 Obama, 10/27 UNH/WMUR
55-37 Obama, 10/26 LV AP/GfK

Montana — 48-44 McCain, 10/25 NBC/Mason-Dixon

North Carolina
48-46 Obama, 10/26 AP/GfK
47-47 tied, 10/25 NBC/Mason-Dixon

Ohio
49-40 Obama, 10/27 LA Times/Bloomberg
51-42 Obama, 10/26 Quinnipiac University
48-42 Obama, 10/26 AP/GfK

Pennsylvania
53-42 Obama, 10/28 Muhlenberg/Morning Call
53-41 Obama, 10/26 Quinnipiac University
53-40 Obama, 0/26 AP/GfK

Virginia — 49-42 Obama, 10/26 AP/GfK

- jpt

User Comments

Jake,
Please take a look at the new “Godless” commercial that Sen. Dole is running against Kay Hagan.
It is the most despicable political ad of the cycle!

Posted by: NHCatholic | October 29, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

November 4th, we will see.

Posted by: becky | October 29, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Jake doesn’t tell you about the race questions in the AP/GfK poll. Nothing but a fraudulent push poll.
Rasmussen +3
Battleground +3
TIPP +4
Zogby +5
Not including the Obama/PUMA effect.

Posted by: geevill | October 29, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

The Historical Lessons of Lower Tax Rates
by Daniel J. Mitchell, Ph.D.
WebMemo #327
There is a distinct pattern throughout American history: When tax rates are reduced, the economy’s growth rate improves and living standards increase. Good tax policy has a number of interesting side effects. For instance, history tells us that tax revenues grow and “rich” taxpayers pay more tax when marginal tax rates are slashed. This means lower income citizens bear a lower share of the tax burden – a consequence that should lead class-warfare politicians to support lower tax rates.
Conversely, periods of higher tax rates are associated with sub par economic performance and stagnant tax revenues. In other words, when politicians attempt to “soak the rich,” the rest of us take a bath. Examining the three major United States episodes of tax rate reductions can prove useful lessons.

Posted by: A Veteran | October 29, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

A Brief Guide to the Flat Tax
by Daniel J. Mitchell, Ph.D.
Backgrounder #1866
There is widespread consensus that the current tax system is a complicated failure that hinders the nation’s growth while allowing the politically well-connected to manipulate the system to get special breaks that are not available to average workers and businesses. This is stimulating a great deal of interest in shifting to a sim­ple and fair flat tax. For instance, President George W. Bush has appointed the President’s Advisory Panel on Tax Reform to recommend options for fundamental tax reform,[1] the Department of the Treasury has produced extensive analysis of the flat tax and other reform options,[2] and lawmakers on Capitol Hill are exploring various ways to reform the tax code.
The United States should move quickly to reform its tax system. In a competitive global economy, jobs and capital flow to jurisdictions with better tax law. Tradi­tionally, this process of “tax competition” has benefited the United States, but there is growing evidence that America is falling behind. Nations around the world are lowering tax rates and reforming their tax systems. Indeed, nine countries that were part of the former Soviet Bloc have adopted versions of the flat tax.[3] These pro-growth reforms are yielding impressive results and are a road map for U.S. policymakers.

Posted by: A Veteran | October 29, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Not including the Obama/PUMA effect.
**********************************
LOL

Posted by: Thinking | October 29, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

“Jake doesn’t tell you about the race questions in the AP/GfK poll. Nothing but a fraudulent push poll.”
What a difference a week makes.
That poll was hailed by right wingers last week even though it greatly oversampled evanglicals.

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Obama is way up in PA and in VA.
McCain knows he cannot win without PA.
We want FL, OH, CO, NV, NC, and MT as well. But just winning VA and PA will give Obama the win. Even if McCain wins all the others mentioned. (Which he won’t.)
McCain’s staff knows the reality, but his supporters are still in the land of dreams.
Obama is now even competative in AZ, McCain’s home state. That’s pretty lame.

Posted by: Rachel in NC | October 29, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

“Ohio
49-40 Obama, 10/27 LA Times/Bloomberg
51-42 Obama, 10/26 Quinnipiac University
48-42 Obama, 10/26 AP/GfK”
This is an example of how some polls will be wrong on election day:
-LATIMES/Bloomberg(10/25 – 10/27): Obama +9 overall;
The poll shows McCain is winning Independents by 11 points
-Quinnipiac Polls (10/22 – 10/26): Obama +9 overall;
The Poll shows Obama is winning independents by 12 points.
Two polls show different candidates winning the independents by big margin(11 and 12 points) while predicting Obama winning OHIO by the same margin(9 points).
The AP/GFK poll shows Obama +6 overall in OHIO, while both candidates receiving similar support among the independents.
Furthermore, how is that the latest Quinnipiac polls show Obama +2 in Florida, +9 in OHIO and +12 in PA, where Obama is receiving low support among Clinton voterS (81%, 71%, and 75% respec.)?. Are the polls underestimating the 18 Million Clinton Voters?
If you think some of the polls are not wrong, then, Do you really think that McCain will win Arizona, North Dakota and Montana by only 5 points or losing NJ by 20 points as per the polls?

Posted by: Angel | October 29, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

Not including the Obama/PUMA effect.
______________________________________
There is ZERO statistical evidence PUMA’s matter or as one pollster stated ‘PUMA’s are dead”
Among Democrats, Barack Obama is now winning 88 percent support, comparable to John Kerry in 2004 or Al Gore in 2000. It is expected that Obama will scrape up against the 90 percent number on election day.
By contrast, John McCain is winning the support of just 85.3 percent of Republicans, well down from Bush’s 93 percent in 2004 and 91 percent in 2000.

Posted by: facts DO INDEED matter | October 29, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

“Furthermore, how is that the latest Quinnipiac polls show Obama +2 in Florida, +9 in OHIO and +12 in PA, where Obama is receiving low support among Clinton voterS (81%, 71%, and 75% respec.)?. Are the polls underestimating the 18 Million Clinton Voters?”
71% to 81% is low?
That’s actually close to McCain’s Bush voter from 2004 numbers which range from 78% to 82%
“If you think some of the polls are not wrong, then, Do you really think that McCain will win Arizona, North Dakota and Montana by only 5 points or losing NJ by 20 points as per the polls?”
In AZ McCain should win by greater than 5 pts.
In MT and ND he is facing a formidable Obama ground game.
With Rudy out of the game and McCain campaign’s comments that real America doesn’t include the NY/NJ area, NJ is the Democrats by double digits easily.

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

McCain supporters cannot accept truth. They believe everything that is said in their inbox, on Fox News, or whatever Rush Limbaugh says. They think Palin is the greatest candidate ever. They think there are still WMDs. They think skin pigment drives behavior.
It is all a house of illusions. Wait until truth strikes them in the face on Nov. 4. They are going to have withdrawl symptoms from being cut off from so much false knowledge.

Posted by: Reason | October 29, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Before September 2007, Hao’s name had never appeared in the 15-year-old federal database of campaign contributors. Since then, however, his donations have topped $120,000 — including $70,100 on a single June day to Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
Over the same time frame, a network of Hao relatives has kicked in more. The take from this group over the last 13 months exceeds $269,000, a small amount to Democrats but most of it to McCain and the Republican National Committee, records show.
Hao didn’t register to vote at the northwest suburban address attached to his donations until October 2007, a month after he wrote his first political check, $25,000 to the RNC.
The circumstances surrounding Hao’s sudden and prolific political activism are curious and his whereabouts unclear. His name isn’t listed on property records or the mailbox at the unassuming tract home listed on his donations.
Hao lives “overseas,” insisted a man who answered the door at the Roselle home recently. The man declined to identify himself.

Posted by: dewde | October 29, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

We are observing the most racially motivated and profiling smear campaign ever witnessed by our wonderful country. I am truly amazed and yet ashamed of the evil spirit of my fellow “sister”.
Palin has been a disgrace to not only the Republican party but also to the female species. Her demeanor, opinions and lack of intelligence has been so obvious to the American people that our comedians are banking on Palin”s short comings.
McCain”s VP selection of Palin was to “inspire” the female voting constituencies. Instead, we, the strong and determined women of America, are ridiculed by this gesture.
The internal Republican party divide regarding Palin”s selection speaks louder than any commentary, editorial and news soundbite than one could ever imagine.
It is the year for change,unity and for a positive movement within our country. We can no longer accept the old line of division that the Republicans are so opening representing.
——————————————————————————–

Posted by: AJWTexas12 | October 29, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

hum……….Montana is going to Obama. reason 1 Ron Paul is on the ballot and he’s gonna split the republican vote. People here will vote that fruit cake because alot of folks out here share his opions… I for one voted Obama he’s gonna win!
Obama 2008

Posted by: kellie | October 29, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Does anyone see a landslide?
Because I do.
geevill,
It’s not the nationally numbers that count. Gore won the popular vote but lost the election. It’s the state by state polls people should look at. It’s a landslide for Obama.
Obama/Biden08

Posted by: Vanessa | October 29, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

wow
Obama has plans
as this blog and the mccain supporters show…and Palin’s words show
they have spin, innuendo and lying.
throw these bums out
same team
same tactics 9th year.

Posted by: dl | October 29, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

The Federal Reserve cut a key short-term interest rate by a half-percentage point today, dropping the federal funds rate from 1.5 percent to 1 percent. The Fed also expressed continued worries about the damage being done to the economy by the ongoing crisis in the financial and credit markets.

Posted by: d0 | October 29, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

A Veteran: Why does no first world nation on Earth use a flat tax, with the possible exception of tiny Iceland with it’s 36% tax rate (and fewer people than most US metro areas)?

Posted by: jhw539 | October 29, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

(In the voice of Cosell):
Down goes McCain
Down goes McCain
Down goes McCain

Posted by: DKNY | October 29, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Part 2: This is an example of how some polls will be wrong on election day:
OHIO: 71% top 81% supporting Obama in OHIO among Democrats (Clinton Voters) are very low
2004 Exit Polls:
Democrats (38%): Kerry 91%(Obama is -10 to -20%) to Bush 8%
Republicans (37%): Bush 94% to Kerry 6%
Independents (24%): Kerry 60% to Bush 39%
2000 Exit Polls:
Democrats : Gore 89%(Obama is -8 to -18%) to Bush 9%
Republicans : Bush 90% to Gore 9%
Independents : Gore 54% to Bush 39%
New York and New Jersey have different voting patterns:
NY 2004 Election Results: Kerry 59% to Bush 40%(+19)
NJ 2004 Election Results: Kerry 53% to Bush 46%(+7)

Posted by: Angel | October 29, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

I’m just floored by the number of people that are willing to throw out capitalism for a guy who looks good and is a smooth talker. I would rather have 8 more years of the “same” than to give up my hard earned cash to lazy bums sitting on a couch watching the view and collect a walfare check. And Mark my words, middle class taxes will be raised when the “Bush Tax Cuts” expire

Posted by: stfchbb | October 29, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

stfchbb “I’m just floored by the number of people that are willing to throw out capitalism for a guy who looks good and is a smooth talker.”
I’m floored by the number of people who still appear entirely ignorant of Obama’s impressive legislative record in IL, career teaching the Constitution at the graduate level, and depth of policy details laid out in the hundreds of pages of white papers available on his site.
If you think decisions on being made strictly on his ability as an orator, it speaks more to the vapid shallowness of your personal vetting process than that of Obama’s supporters.

Posted by: jhw539 | October 29, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

I am glad to see Obama doing so well six days out. Of course the polls might tighten a bit….
But I think that Obama and McCain have made their pitch to the public.
Obama says he wants to focus on improving opportunities for the middle class.
McCain said, I’m a maverick…I’m like Bush…I’m not Bush…I’m waging an honorable campaign…Obama’s a celebrity…Palin’s a celebrity…The economy is fine…The economy’s in trouble…Obama’s a terrorist…Obama is a Commie…
We’ll see what happens on November 4th.

Posted by: Blip | October 29, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

If the polls are right then it looks like Obama’s ragtag army of malcontents is going to do what generations of revolutionaries have been unable to: take down the establishment. The Have-nots in this country have always vastly outnumbered the Haves, and the Have-nots possess the power to band together (engage in collective action as Obama says), vote their own into power, and take the wealth of the Haves for themselves. The Have-nots have always backed away from using this power because it is unAmerican and harmful to the country. No more, seemingly.
We are now seeing them rise up, assert their collective power, and begin the process of securing for themselves the accumulated wealth of others. First there will be a soak-the-rich tax system, in which the income of the top 25% will be transferred to the to Obama’s supporters (nobody believes he will go after only the top 5%); next we will see confiscatory death taxes, so that families will no longer be able to provide for the futures of their children; and finally, when all of this is not enough, we will see confiscatory taxes imposed on the property of landowners and business owners.
We have experience of this kind of redistribution and nationalization of wealth in the old USSR and South and Central America. It has the short-term benefit of pleasing political supporters, but the long term effect is disastrous. (Obama will say redistribution is for the sake of fairness, but it is really just to pay off his supporters.) When people cannot keep what they earn or keep what they own the entire economic fabric of society breaks down.
Obama can get power by promising redistribution of wealth, but if he carries through with his threats he will drive this country into a downward economic spiral from which it will not recover for 100 years.
Perhaps many of his supporters don’t care, especially if they are the Have-nots. If they having nothing now they may figure that they do not stand to lose anything by voting in an avowed Socialist. However, these people have no idea of the depths of destitution to which they can fall.
The rich will always take care of themselves. They will move to friendlier countries, taking with them the engines of prosperity. The Have-nots will be left to fend for themselves.

Posted by: David H | October 29, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

stfchbb, I’ll take my walfare check, combine it with my welfare check, and then watch both The View AND Judge Judy, though once Obama is elected those shows will almost certainly be replaced with Chairman Mao Pilates Videos.

Posted by: DKNY | October 29, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

New ethics complaint being filed against Palin:
The complaint against Governor Palin, alleges Misuse of Official Position: “Gov. Palin attempted to and in fact did use her official position for personal gain by securing unwarranted benefits for her daughters…” All the allegations contained in the complaint are related to state reimbursed travel.
(Story at CBS)

Posted by: just Vote | October 29, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

How come no one ever complains about the huge give-aways to corporate giants (wealth spreading) that has gone on since Nixon?
Most of the people needing help are hard working but have no real chance for upward mobility due to systemic instutionalized class and racial disparity. In a perct world, the capitalism we have available would not need some tweaking from time to time but unfortuantely man is not perfect nor is anything that man ever designed because man is flawed as a result of sin.
That said, flawed as our system tends to be, it is by far the best any nation has ever devised but even the best requires updates/modifications as times change. Our ideals were not meant to be static but rather the founding fathers crated them to be living ideals to meet the needs of all the people at any given point in time.

Posted by: Bill, Dayton, OH | October 29, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Angel;
the difference this time, for whatever polls might be worth… is that the Dems are actively preventing Republicans from purging Dem voters from valid voter registration lists….
altho’ to their ‘credi’t..Republicans are so good at preventng citizens from voting….. they’re at it again in Georgia and Colorado…..

Posted by: dewde | October 29, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

mccain/palin ” your c-en-ze-va-t, r-pub-l-c, L-b-ral—- and yor Diva palin— HA-HA-HA- And Yours Bush-chainey-Rumsfield-gonzales, Your time is Finito— Just wait upto Twesday. Then we will
do our “Ramba Party” for next 8 years. H HA-HA-HA We had fun with Mc/palin.
Adios Senor—–

Posted by: mksyed | October 29, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

david H.
re: ‘The rich will always take care of themselves. They will move to friendlier countries, …. The Have-nots will be left to fend for themselves.’
that’s a very accurate description of the last 8 years under Bush, Cheney & Republicans…. very keen analysis by you….

Posted by: Blue | October 29, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Among Democrats, Barack Obama is now winning 88 percent support, comparable to John Kerry in 2004 or Al Gore in 2000. It is expected that Obama will scrape up against the 90 percent number on election day.
YOU MADE MY POINT. That’s what these polls say. That’s not what is going to happen. You have been warned.

Posted by: geevill | October 29, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Right wing tools are calling Obama a socialist when it was Dubya who gave 700 billion+ dollars to the crooks on Wall St.
So when the government takes OUR tax dollars and gives it to their friends on Wall St, it’s OK. But if the government takes OUR tax dollars and uses it to fix bridges and levees and roads, then it’s wrong.
What a joke! Goodbye right wing corporate tools!

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 29, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

When the Republicans lose big on Tuesday, I hope they respect the will of the people and go quietly. I hope they don’t start trouble.

Posted by: hotandspicy | October 29, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

David H…
What is this business about taking power and destroying the U.S. government?
It already happened… years ago. Republican activist, Grover Norquist, said he wanted to starve our governement until it was weak enough to “drown in the bathtub.” No sooner did he say it, than George Bush has tried it.
As a result… we are in debt… our jobs have moved to China… our economy is in shambles… our military stretched thin… our dollar is losing value…
If you cannot see that this all happened under the guidance of the GOP… why would I trust your judgment on who to vote for Nov. 4th?
Worry about Obama hurting America? Bush already hurt America… and McCain wants to continue it.

Posted by: Blip | October 29, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Hey jhw539. Impressive Illinois senate record? Are you kidding me? Got anything from this century?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | October 29, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Among Democrats, Barack Obama is now winning 88 percent support, comparable to John Kerry in 2004 or Al Gore in 2000. It is expected that Obama will scrape up against the 90 percent number on election day.
YOU MADE MY POINT. That’s what these polls say. That’s not what is going to happen. You have been warned.
_____________________________________
I use statistics and you use your crystal ball.. geevill, I always picture you posting from Roswell….

Posted by: facts DO INDEED matter | October 29, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

I remember Republicans saying the exact same things about Bill Clinton.
I remember being freaked out that Clinton was going to turn into some kind of Stalin figure.
Instead, he turned out to be a great president.
Every election year… the GOP cranks out the same fear mongering stories. “The sky is falling! The sky is falling!”

Posted by: Blip | October 29, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Come on Florida, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, Texas, Michigan, etc. Let’s get this show on the road. Let’s show them some real “Obama” numbers. Even if the lines are 8 hours long…VOTE, VOTE. We are depending upon you. Obama has done his part, its time we do ours! Obama 08

Posted by: Tanya | October 29, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

I use statistics and you use your crystal ball.
Those are statistics and I am using my vote and my fellow PUMA votes. Obama isn’t going to get 90% of the demcoratic vote. He can’t even get 70% of the Jewish vote.

Posted by: geevill | October 29, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

“Impressive Illinois senate record? Are you kidding me? Got anything from this century”
Obama was Senator in IL from 1996 to 2004.
Hopefully Obama gets elected and he does something about the education in this country.
When right wingers can’t do simple arithmetic something is very wrong with our educational system.

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Ok Ryan C (That One). Guess the sarcasm didn’t come through. Why don’t you tick off a few of those impressive Illinios senate accomplishments for us then? Then we can compare them to W’s impressive gubernatorial accomplishments.
Better yet name the 3 biggest Obama accomplishments. I’ll spot you one…winning the Democratic nomination. Go ahead.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | October 29, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

JAKE – PLEASE HELP! I can’t find this anywhere – do you know if the Montana (NBC-Mason-Dixon) poll included Ron Paul in the question? Or was it just McCain/Obama? With Paul on the ballot as the constitution candidate, I think Montana could go BLUE…
Also, why is there an asterisk?
Thanks Jake! Love your fairness in all this…

Posted by: Holly | October 29, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Obama isn’t going to get 90% of the demcoratic vote. He can’t even get 70% of the Jewish vote.
________________________________________
Those darn facts always get in the way of reality..
A new poll released by the Gallup organization on Thursday shows Jewish voters favor Barack Obama over John McCain by more than 3 to 1, with 74% saying they will vote for Obama over 22% for McCain.

Posted by: facts DO INDEED matter | October 29, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

“Better yet name the 3 biggest Obama accomplishments. I’ll spot you one…winning the Democratic nomination. Go ahead.”
Obama brought about taped confessions for capital crimes and worked against racial profiling.
He has fought against discrimination based on sexual orientaion.
And he brought about a tough ethics reform law.
That was just in the IL Senate.

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

I’d like to cite my favorite poll from the last few days:
Westcoastmessenger (politicalpunch)
Obama 1 – McCain 0
Made my day, man. I went and donated to HillPAC after that.

Posted by: Tungsten | October 29, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

dave:
As a fellow Jew – Sorry, I’m votin’ for Obama. As are all of my Jewish friends and relatives. Sorry to disappoint, but your desperate smear isn’t working.

Posted by: Tungsten | October 29, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

“Obama brought about taped confessions for capital crimes and worked against racial profiling.
He has fought against discrimination based on sexual orientaion.
And he brought about a tough ethics reform law.
That was just in the IL Senate. ”
Well buddy I guess you were right when you called me an uneducated right winger. That is a stunningly impressive list there. Took on the powerful pro-sexual discrimination lobby eh? And took a stand against something that was unethical.
Oh and btw, don’t get your hopes up for education reform. Kinda like asking W for advice on running your baseball team. Or did I miss some of the impressive reforms from his years of work on the Annenberg challenge?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | October 29, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

THREE GROUPS: Forecasts of voting lag, so far
Record turnout was seen for new voters, young, Hispanics
By MOLLY BALL
REVIEW-JOURNAL
Elections
Politics
Graphic by Mike Johnson.
Analysts have predicted that new voters, young voters and Hispanic voters will turn out in record numbers in this election. But as Nevadans continue to flock to the polls, turnout among those three groups is lagging, at least in the early going.

Posted by: dave | October 29, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Jake,
Come on. How about some of the good news for John McCain? Here is some:
ARIZONA
46-44 McCAIN, Arizona State 10/23 – 10/26, 1019 RV/3.0
Oh, okay so maybe it isn’t good news when McCain cant crack 50% and his 2% lead is within the margin of error in his own home state.
Sorry.

Posted by: Bud | October 29, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

“…a copy of the complaint that Frank Gwartney, a retired lineman in Anchorage filed last Friday, with Alaska’s Attorney General, Talis Colber in Juneau. “Palin ran on the platform of ethics, transparency and anti-corruption. I’m tired of the hypocrisy that exists in Government and people need to know the truth,” said Gwartney.”
“This new ethics complaint comes on the heels of the Federal Elections Campaign complaint filed by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington for spending $150,000 on pricey designer threads.”
Ruh-Roh

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Holly
Ron Paul actually asked for his name to be taken OFF the Montana ballot, but they said it was too late to change it.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 29, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

“ABC News Kate Snow reports: Governor Palin’s campaign still has not released any information regarding her medical records despite frequent requests from the news media and the campaign’s own assertion that they would release this information soon.
On Sunday morning, Palin spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt told ABC News that the campaign had planned to release information on her medical history early this week.
Today is Wednesday”

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

ON the question of public funding of presidential campaigns, we Democrats who strongly support Sen. Barack Obama’s candidacy and who previously supported limits on campaign spending and who haven’t objected to Obama’s opting out of the presidential funding system face an awkward fact: Either we are hypocrites, or we were wrong to support such limitations in the first place.
The next time we speak of the virtue of level playing fields or state our strong belief that democracy can’t survive in the modern age unless big money is taken out of campaigns, we’ll be counting on our audience’s forgetting our silence this year, when the free market was flowing in our direction.
A hypocrite is a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue – who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings. And that, it seems to me, is what we’re doing now.
- Senator Bob Kerrey D
So Ryan C (That One), you gonna vote for the hypocrite?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | October 29, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

You know…the $150,000 spent by the republicans is/was ridiculous! I certainly could have used that money!!! They could have donated that money to CHARITY – Those with ailments that Palin’s child has! Donating the clothes to charity will get them PENNIES on the dollar VS $150,000 CASH! Think of what they could have done with that money!!!
All THREE other candidates paid for their OWN SUITS, SHOES, TIES…Where does putting a woman (broke as Palin is on her $100k salary, NOT) in RENTED clothes make this alright??
Palin said she was going back to her own CONSIGNMENT shop in “Alaskaaaaaa” to get new digs after the election…gee…SHE should have given THAT consignment shop the money!!! Think of how that would have helped a fellow citizen, small busienss owner…INSTEAD…Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus made the money!
GO PALIN support BIG BUSINESS and NOT THE POOR CONSIGNMENT SHOP IN ALAKSA!!!!!!!!
What an idiot! Liar!!
Obama/Biden 2008!

Posted by: Richard | October 29, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Nice selective quoting.
“Former Sen. Wendell Ford once gave me good advice about public issues and votes: “If it takes you more than 10 minutes to explain why you voted a particular way, you probably voted wrong.” It would take me a lot longer than those 10 minutes to explain why I’m not outraged by Obama’s decision to opt out of funding – which has given him a decisive spending advantage over Sen. John McCain.
Actually, I could keep my answer under 10 minutes if I were willing to answer that it’s now to my advantage to act in contradiction to my previously stated beliefs. All I would need to say is that, on the issue of public funding in 2008, I was a hyprocrite.
Of course, there’s another option: Admit I was wrong on such limitations in the first place. And that’s exactly what I’m likely to do.
For the facts in evidence seem to make the case that this presidential campaign is the most exciting, most closely watched and most expensive in my lifetime. That is, there seems to be no correlation between the amount of money spent and disillusionment among the voters. Indeed, the contrary appears to be true.”
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

“the Boston Herald has reported that Palin spent more than $51,000 in taxpayers money to renovate the governor’s Anchorage office suite and spruce up her mansion and office in Juneau.”

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Ryan I know you would rather be talking about Palin’s blouses or ranting about Bush or McSame but the fact is your guy said he would take public financing and then he didn’t. And he did it because he could raise a boatload of money. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Are we going too fast for you here?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | October 29, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Senator- When it comes to limits the only thing we need is term limits on how many times Senators can get elected. Just think as soon as Obama gets in all the dough that will come in so you can spend, spend, spend on programs for lobbyists so you can reap the benefits from the top end.

Posted by: Corey B | October 29, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

“Monegan, the former public safety commissioner, submitted a complaint to the personnel board seeking a hearing to “address reputational harm” caused by Palin.
In the complaint, which appears to set the stage for a lawsuit, Monegan’s attorney Jeffrey Feldman said Palin’s “inconsistent and changing explanations” for firing Monegan – including claims that he was fired for insubordination – have damaged his reputation.”

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Just think though the poll numbers are mostly home phone numbers of the unworking people looking to reap tax benefits when they do not even pay in. Us working class use cell phones…

Posted by: Corey B | October 29, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

NHCatholic: It’s tough to pick the most despicable Republican ad/robocall/allegation of the campaign. There are so many. The Libby Dole one certainly is in the top five.
My own personal favorite is Sarah’s statement that under Obama, our property won’t belong to us anymore, it will belong to everyone. Obama has never said anything close to that. I don’t think Sarah Palin is a socialist either, although some of her comments sound like it: “we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.” Nobody could make up that syntax.

Posted by: Mara | October 29, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

“Us working class use cell phones”
The demographics for cell only users skew towards the same demographics that heavily favor Obama.
Besides a few polling outfits do cell only polling in addition to their traditional polling.

Posted by: Ryan C (That One) | October 29, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Foghorn Leghorn
Yes, although he never actually promised to take public financing, his backing out can certianly be considered a reversal. Fair enough, Obama has done several things I didn’t like. But opting out of public financing was the only logical choice for him. I think the mistake was ever saying he would do it on the first place.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 29, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Florida is a republican state with a history of fixing presidential elections.
Although Kathleen Harris is history and
Charlie Crist is no Jeb Bush, I still think there will be some hacking of the results.
Pennsylvania should go the other way. Governor Rendell looks like a real old time Democrat. In short, it’s in the bag.

Posted by: seemstome | October 29, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

A secretary of state of a state like Florida or Ohio has a tremendous influence on the outcome of an election.
He or she can allocate materials and make value judgments on whether a voter meets criteria.
The number and quality of machines assigned to a county are influenced by them.
Standards for voter registration are subject to their interpretation.
If the county elections supervisor is the same political party as the governor and the secretary of the state, you have two out of three of the
requirements for an election fraud perfect storm. The third is if the governor is the candidate’s brother.

Posted by: seemstome | October 29, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Do not call in sick on election day. Email your employer that you will be voting and you may have to withstand unprecedented lines.
If you can vote absentee ballot in your state at this late date, do it.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | October 29, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

States like Alaska do not have a secretary of state. That responsibility falls to the lieutenant governor, Todd Palin.

Posted by: seemstome | October 29, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

I think if you don’t pay in to the tax system you shouldn’t get anything out of it. That is, unless you can prove special hardship or critical needs. Life threatening conditions should not be overlooked, children should not be neglected nor the elderly.
Dealing with the poor is not done out of charity. It is done in the interest of society as a whole. If the concentration of wealth becomes too disparate, then the workings of democracy start to break down. Education suffers, crime rises, and the reaction of society is to build more prisons. Eventually a police state evolves. What was once a proud country becomes a democracy in name only, where it’s citizens fear the very people sworn to protect them.

Posted by: seemstome | October 29, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

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