Powell’s Obama Endorsement Raised at Stevens Corruption Trial

Janice, maybe Colin Powell has begun to relaize that the Republican party is not the one he joined so many years ago. It has gone from conservative to hatered in less than eight years. I have always voted for a Republican President but Have already voted for Obama. I think he was telling the truth about why he is supporting Obama because the reasons are very similar if not exactly the same as mine. The economy and the war which have been mishandled and Sarah Palin.

JANICE:
This country belonged to RED/AMERICAN INDIANS not Christians (Please Go thru the history).

Actually, Janice, most of the founders of country–even the ones who were firm Christians, rather than deists–insisted on a constitution based on the concept of natural law, not Christian theology.
This being the case, Powell is absolutely correct: While Obama is not and has never been a Muslim, it would be perfectly in line with this nation’s principles if he were.

Politico is running a story in which it quotes an anonymous McCain staffer as saying Colorado, Iowa and Nevada are “gone.”
Iowa is no big surprise as Obama has been up in polls there consistently and has a huge organization. But interesting about Colorado and Nevada.
The RNC pushed back with a counter release, saying it wasn’t giving up on any of those states.
What else could they say? If Obama holds all of the blue states from ’04, and adds Colorado and Nevada, he wins with that alone.
Though as a Virginia resident, I’m happy to note that Rasmussen has become the third polling organization to put Obama’s lead here at 10 points. And there’s some indicators that North Carolina could be breaking for Obama, too, though it would still be more of a surprise there.

dl – actually I have heard that it is his wife that does not want him to run for office.

Exactly Steve, Powell didn’t have the gonads to do his job and stand up against Bush and Cheney so now we need to watch his get even with them thru this public display.

dl: “…and it can be argued strongly that if it weren’t for Republicans Powell would have been President of the United States.”
Actually I suspect Powell would have been president in 1996 or 2000 if he had decided to run. The Republicans wanted him, but he said he wasn’t interested.
He said he put his wife through a lot for his entire military career, including frequent moves, etc. Everything that comes with being an Army wife. And in return he promised her she’d make their big life decisions after he retired. She didn’t want him to run for president.

Eric please, I have more governing experience than Obama and Biden combined. As a matter of fact Palin has 100% more governing experience than both of them combined. That’s the problem – rethoric does not get the job done.

Janice…
You are a Moron plain an simple… Racist to boot… Powel bit the hand that fed him, how dare you!!! so what did George Bush do to the American people as a whole!!!! who pays George Bush’s salary?

I think that it may be time for the Republicans to take back their party from the hater mongers who have been running this party lately. All of the good “Christian” people really need to look at themselves and their behavior. If the Democrates win this election, the Republicans will have no one to blame but themselves and their hateful ways.

Janice
Let us not try to twist reality to feed our own appetites of segregation. Martin summed it up. Informed voter exposed you, you can’t just proved any political arguement. Learned people don’t hide with petty issues, they engage in healthy debate. Just go home and sleep, leave politics to politicians and informed voters if you can’t handle it. we will decide for you.

Dave, I believe the first part of your assessment — but with that as true why did he stand in front of the world and tell lies to drive us into war? Noone held a gun to his head!

So the Republicans argue that Powell would put his race above the nation he swore an oath to defend?
And this is the kind of guy that a Republican president makes his secretary of state? Uh oh, yet another embarrassment for the Bush Administration then. Why in the world would we want another Republican president?
And let’s talk about the Army. It promotes a guy like this, who as you Republicans now argue, would put race above country, to four stars?
And if the Army is guilty, then isn’t this really an indictment of our entire military? In fact, isn’t this an indictment of our entire way of life?
Well, I don’t know about you, but I’m not going to sit here and listen to these Republicans bad-mouth the United States of America.
<< walks out with the entirety of Delta house, humming the national anthem.

Would Smitty please check his spelling of “muslim”. Calling someone a “muslin” does not do anything to advance an opinion.

Not the same Republican Party…..I voted Republican since Reagan. I used to be a Fox news Junkie and yes there was a time when I could listen to Hannity, Michele and Ann Coulter…. In the Primaries, I voted for Mitt Romney. Then something happened. I was watching CNN and I got up and went to the kitchen to get a snack and I heard someone giving a speech and I went back into the living room and saw this skinny guy. I had no idea who he was.
It was Barack Obama. I really wasn’t interested in the Democratic Party. When the Republicans nominated John McCain. I left the Party and will never look back. I occasionally flip to Fox News. I timed how long I can watch…. I haven’t gone past 60 seconds yet.

Janice,
So what you are saying is Powell chose country over party, right? But isn’t McCain’s theme Country First? Republicans should tread lightly on this party loyalty….

Ron, its all window dressing. Do you really want to live in a socialist country? Read behind the dressing
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=303952499910291

I don’t know how sitting in a HATE filled radical church for 20 years qualifys Obama as a Christian. Keep you heads in the sand, the man isn’t what he pretends to be, obviously Powell isn’t either with this “eratic” behavior.

Ann – “Calling someone a “muslin” does not do anything to advance an opinion.”
unless you are a cotton farmer!

a theist can`t be a fascist . Collin Powel`s comment uphold the the spirit of Jesus !

Terrell…
Amen…

HH – “I don’t know how sitting in a HATE filled radical church for 20 years qualifys Obama as a Christian.” Neither does being a member of the Republican Party of Hate or voting Republican. I am telling you the things I have heard out of Sarah Palin’s mouth have been some of the scarist things I have ever heard in my life. That woman is Jerry Falwell in a skirt. Mean spirited and hateful.

georgejones: “…there is no way I’m voting for a socialist as president of the USA.”
I get such a kick out of this.
Bush nationalizes banks and buys $700 billion worth of mortgage backed securities, and you guys are calling Obama socialist…
…over the fact that his progressive tax rates are 3 percent higher than McCain’s progressive tax rates for amounts over $250k?
Sorry, but you guys, and your candidate, are just making ludicrous arguments now.

Powell has every right to back whichever candidate he likes. That may not be the party line but it is the American way. In a free country you are entitled to your own opinions. The Republicans do not own Colin Powell and the whole line of thought that he owes them something is ludicrous and indicates what is wrong wiothy our country. The Repubs got a lot of use out of Colin Powell, but he refused to tow their line when it was so different from what he thought was right. That Colin Powell divorced himself from “W” and no from the candidate who would continue down the “W” path is a good indication that Colin Powell is his own man, not somebody else’s.
I may not agree with Colin Powell, but I do respect him. There does not seem top be very much respect left in this country. Am I a Democrat? No. Am I a Republican? No. I’m an American, and I’m sick of what our country has become.

I’m a 59 year old Colorado homebuilder, an independent voter and I can tell you Powell’s presentation on “Meet the Press” resonated with me. Reading the post from this hateful woman Janice just reinforces my image of a Republican party that has been overtaken by partisan power hungry,greedy, provincial and insensitive white supremicists. I am so glad I left that party. The only hope I see for it is for it’s members to reform as the NAZI party and then they can all die and go to hell. I do want to see intelligent debate on the issues and hope the Republican Party can reform and clean their house – there is an awful stink coming from them now.

Paul, we all agree Bush is an Ahole. I didn’t vote for him.

Al Quaeda attacked the US in 1993, the first year of President Clinton.
Al Quaeda attacked the US in 2001, the first year of Georg W. Bush.
And if their history repeats itself, Al Quaeda will probably try again next year, the first year of the new President.
So what else is new?
I noticed that trend in 2001, after 911. That’s Al Quaeda’s M.O.D.
They want to test the new President. That’s why they did it in the first year of Clinton’s and Bush’s presidency.
Hope to god we do not have to rely on the teleprompter guy!!!!

georgejones – tell the truth, did you support Bush’s tax cuts and their obvious preferences toward the wealthy?
Because if you didn’t, the only thing you might not like about Obama’s tax proposal is that it doesn’t do enough to reverse the Bush approach.
And just to be clear about what I’m saying, Bush was the tax radical and not Obama now. If Obama’s plan had been proposed in 1998, we might all presume it was a Republican plan.
I believe Obama’s top rates in his progressive scale is the same as what we had during the Reagan Administration.

HP Boston…
“Hope to god we do not have to rely on the teleprompter guy!!!!”
OH PLEASE!!! I hope to God we do not have an erratic and poor judgment McCain… WE will be in WWWIII for sure… we need INTELLIGENCE, COOL and CALM TEMPERMENT and someone with SOLID JUDGEMENT who will LISTEN to Counsel and NOT just the YES men that McCain surrounds himself with.. PRAY Sarah PALIN is NOT int eh white house because we will be screwed…

Ronnn, before you blow-off calling people stupid you might want to do a little research. Obama wrote a book called “Dreams of my Father.” (Media accounts portray Obama’s father as being completely out of his life after leaving his mother and him at age 2. But Obama’s first book, “Dreams From My Father,” reveals that he remained an influential force in his life. Obama’s first autobiography was devoted to “my father.”)
Listen to what “the Old Man,” as Obama and his siblings called him, wrote in proposing government-run farms: “If left to the individual, consolidation will take a long time to come. We have to look at priorities in terms of what is good for society, and on this basis we may find it necessary to force people to do things they would not do otherwise.”
He explained that “the government should restrict the size of farms that can be owned by one individual throughout the country.”
More evil than individuals, Obama’s father believed, are heads of corporations. More evil still are the bankers and investors, who conspire to control the world through their evil capitalist system.
“One who has read Marx cannot fail to see that corporations are not only what Marx referred to as the advanced stage of capitalism,” he wrote. “But Marx even called it finance capitalism by which a few would control the finances of so many, and through this, have not only economic power but political power as well.”
Like they say Ronnn, sometimes the aquisition of knowledge is not a pretty thing. But at least you know now.

jB – I agree completely. After watching McCain and Obama through two situations – first a foreign crisis with Russian tanks running all over Georgia, and second this current economic crisis – I’ll take Obama any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
An erratic, kneejerk and overly emotional president just isn’t what will serve us best.
And truth be told, I’m almost prefer Palin to McCain. At least she would know she’s in over her head, and thus be more likely to rely on others. McCain would just do what he always does – make quick, emotional decisions, some of which would be inconsistent with earlier decisions.

Ronn, noone is trying to follow the Bush model — that is what we are trying to change and the only one who even questioned the buyout was republicans. Obama left a number to call if they need him.

Obama displayed leadership during the financial crisis? I thought he said call me if you need me? Those were his words — I saw him say it?

Arthur apparently lives in a very dark and scary place.. in his mind.

There is a silver lining, after two years of the Democratic party in charge, the people will see their ineptitude and elect a Republican Congress and Senate.
What have they done so far? They control Congress and have been sitting on their hands. They made a lot of promises to get control of Congress and have not produced.
I expect the same will happen with B. Hussein Obama. Now, don’t get me wrong. I work with Muslims. They are a good people. It’s the radicals you have to fear, not the Muslim people. But BO I don’t trust because of Ayers and Wright. There’s more there below the surface. Open your eyes people.
Oh, and a Christian? He went to church for 20 years and does not know what they preach? hahahahaha

Yeah Arthur, I don’t like Obama but even I think you went a little over the top.

** What have they done so far? They control Congress and have been sitting on
** their hands. They made a lot of promises to get control of Congress and
** have not produced.
Since Bush has been in office, he has vetoed 11 bills. Only one of those was when the Republicans controlled congress. If you are claiming that Congress has not done anything, maybe you should look a little closer.

The buddha taught us to be intentionally kind. People who get their kicks out of hate would call that naive. Examine the way you think. The unexamined life is not worth living. Kindness of thought, word and action is how to live in harmony with the continuum of universal energy.

Oh, and I forgot to mention Powell in keeping with topic, I’d have voted for him for President, but not now. His credibility is in the dirt as far as I am concerned. Did he endorse BO because he’s black? Who knows?

Steve: “Paul, you’all are complaining about the Bush buyout but McKane and his guys are the only ones who questioned it or it would have been even worse.”
No, not correct. McCain didn’t question it. In fact, he had nothing to offer when asked.
Obama questioned it, during a formative stage, and his contributions led to substantive changes in the bill. Granted, Obama was primarily voicing a combined Democratic Party position, being brought into this gimmicky play by McCain and Bush.
House Republicans questioned it. And to win their approval, the Senate added in an additional $140 billion of fluff.

No surprise in Powell endorsing Obama. Birds of a feather flock together, eh?
I have decided to vote EARLY for McCain/Palin.
I am a registered Democrat but I am alarmed that Obama//Biden /Pelosi/Reid have become extreme SOCIALIST LIBERALS who want to “spread the wealth”.
Every US immigrant who came from a communist country/dictatorship (and are US Citizens and planning to vote) should be APPALLED, since many came here to escape from that kind of suppression.
I DO NOT want the government to give my hard-earned money to lazy bums who are just waiting for hand-outs.

Well Ronnn, thank you for relabeling me as “not stupid.” I’ll be able to sleep tonight. I don’t think McCain is the answer to all problems but if you think that Obama’s “vast” knowledge and experience gives him the insight to suggest a fundemental change to the way the US government should operate then I believe you have been brainwashed — as Obama sounded when he wrote his 2 fantasy books — which I suggest you read for more insight. Trust me, they are a tough read and you will need hip boots.

Birds of a Feather -
First of all watch the actual Meet the Press interview. Powell explains in detail why he has decided to vote for Obama and his reasons are extremely well thought through and objective. I have a feeling that people like you are dismissing his endorsement without even having actually seen it for themselves.
Also, I guess you’re for giving out your hard earned money to greedy corporations and large banks who have gotten us into the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression to bail them out. That’s not Socialism, is it?

The poles show Obama ahead in states like NC CO MO in the past Republicans have won here, I truly do feel that he is ahead in these states because of the black vote I’m not a racists but when I hear people say things like some whites aren’t voting for Obama because he’s black, it angers me because it’s very clear he is winning in these state because of the black vote so you tell me who is being racists here , if he was white I don’t think he would have such a lead even Powell said it would electrify the world if he wins, he said this because Obama is black and the rest of the world has always viewed the USA as a place were minorities don’t have many rights and if we put Obama in office then that might change the way we are viewed by the rest of the world. I’m a Republican and it sad to say that at one point I was considering voting for Obama mainly for the same reasons Powell is but now I’m voting for McCain because I feel he is being attacked because he is white my daughter has a good friend who is black last weekend my daughter went to church with her and her mom this was a all black church after they got home her friend said she was sorry by the way all the people at her church had treated my daughter she said they were rude and stared at her all the time as if they were saying why are you here your white it has always been a double standard in this country if a white person does something based on the fact that they are white then it’s racists but if a black person does sometihng based on the fact that they are black then it’s Ok there are some great people of color in this country some who have done great things for the USA but it always comes down to race and it is very clear why Powell has sided with Obama
Steve in CA

** I DO NOT want the government to give my ** hard-earned money to lazy bums who are
** just waiting for hand-outs.
The government has been for many, many years with various social welfare programs. And I suppose you are ok with you being taxed more so it can be given to the wealthy? Now there is a real ironic twist in your logic. Not to mention that taxes are used for government spending, very little goes to wards social programs. And why do you suppose the economy is tanking and we are slipping into a recession? Well, the National Bureau of Economic Research (the guys who give us our GDP figures) put it nicely:
“Never in the history of modern economics has a large industrial country run persistent current account deficits of the magnitude posted by the U.S. since 2000″
Why do you suppose that is? We had a balanced budget when Clinton left office.. and Bush with his first round tax cuts managed to raise the deficit by $133 billion in his first year and hasn’t stopped since. And McCain would like to continue down that merry road.

COUNTRY FIRST, MY A__!!!! MCCAIN’s DECISION IS A JOKE AND INSULT to US AMERICAN”S INTELLIGENCE!! PALIN THE PARROT!!
OBAMA 08!!

Patriot, I agree with everything you said until you said “McCain would like to continue down that merry road”. McCain’s record does not suggest this. You are just spouting an untrue Dem talking point. Think about how that idea got in your head.

** McCain’s record does not suggest this.
Please show me where McCain differs significantly from Bush in his stance on taxes.
And keep in mind, in 2000 when McCain was running for office against Bush, he opposed Bushs tax cuts:
“Governor Bush wants to give 38 percent of his tax cuts to the wealthiest 1 percent. I want to give it to working families.”
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/jan-june00/mccain_2-2.html
He now holds the exact same position.

Birds of a Feather: “Every US immigrant who came from a communist country/dictatorship (and are US Citizens and planning to vote) should be APPALLED, since many came here to escape from that kind of suppression.”
In the fantasy world in which you potentially live, exactly which Obama policies should alarm immigrants from communist countries.
Is it the fact that – oh my gosh – Obama is proposing progressive tax rates?
Lol, I’ve never seen a campaign fall apart on message like this McCain campaign.

I don’t trust Barrack Hussein Obama and
I don’t trust any of his associates, past or present.
Posted by: ltk01 | Oct 21, 2008 12:34:12 PM
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How can you not trust our Savior Hussein 0bama who is trusted by the once honorable General Colin Powell who has the good judgment of selling Bush’s War to get rid of the dictator Hussein, and has the honorable integrity and loyalty to keep silence when all hell broke.

Powell called Stevens’ character “sterling” and said that “If you made a deal with Ted Stevens you knew it was good… [He] never would do anything that was improper.”
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This is the kind of judgment from whom Zero and Zero supporters can trust.

Steve: “Paul, I know that McCain did not say a lot while the cameras were on but my understanding is that the Dems were rail-roading the bill thru before McCain and the Reps could even get there to talk.”
Not true. The Democrats were the first to object to the Republican treasury secretary’s approach, and opened discussions with him.
During that time, there was opportunity for anyone to be involved. This notion that the Republican treasury secretary and the Republican administration he worked for wouldn’t listen to the concerns of House Republicans is a little odd.
Yes, the primary negotiators were one Republican and one Democrat from each house of Congress. And, yes, apparently a lot of the House Republicans didn’t like their representative there.
That’s a party leadership issue.
Whether true or not, the Republican treasury secretary speaking for the Republican administration was saying this had to be passed in days to prevent a seizure of credit. Apparently a lot of folks from both parties bought into that, and the rush was on.
McCain bought into that. I remember him saying that we needed an agreement before the next Monday morning trade session begins to avoid catastrophe. So despite what Barney Frank may have said, my ears tell me McCain was part of the rush, not part of the delay.
Frank may have been saying that McCain inadvertantly delayed the process by his campaign stunt. I think actually that is what happened.
As Obama and the Democrats were saying, the White House meeting was silly, and they recognized it as political grandstanding before the fact. But still, they attended in good faith.

** He seems like a conman.
Maybe to you. He has worked in a bi-partisan fashion on several bills. He is a liberal, yes, but hardly a radical one, and has a history of bringing together differing opinions.. it is one of his strengths. And if he is such a rabid left winger, how do you explain the Chicago Tribunes endorsement of Obama?

Forget about neutral fact checkers. Its pretty bad when a campaign’s claims don’t even get past its own party members.

“Its pretty bad when a campaign’s claims don’t even get past its own party members.” Paul, you hit the nail on the head. This has little to do with Obama or McCain. This has to do with Powell getting even with republicans. Sadly, I wish he would have used the same vengance to standup for what he believed, did his job and kept us out of Iraq when he had the chance. Now I need to listen to his irrelavent opinions on TV after years of Iraq. I wish he’d crawl back into the hole he’s been hiding in.

I wanted to send this article from Huntley Brown – he is a fabulous concert
pianist, man of God and is a black man.
Why I Can’t Vote For Obama By Huntley Brown
Dear Friends,
A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an
email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided
to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of
this before but it’s worth repeating…
First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support.
Obama needs to be commended for his
accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him.
Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process
my identity through Christ. Being a
Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can’t dictate the
terms He does because He is the
leader.
I can’t vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because
that’s who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone from
the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I
won’t be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and
accepted Him as Lord and Savior.
In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets
abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic
stem-cell research, human cloning to name a few, wrong economic concerns
will soon not matter.
We need to follow Martin Luther King’s words, don’t judge someone by the
color of their skin but by the content
of their character. I don’t know Obama so all I can go off is his voting
record. His voting record earned him the
title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.
NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)
To beat Ted Kennedy and Hilary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes
some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what
would happen to America if he had four years to work with.
There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100 % rating.
There is a reason the homosexual community supports him.
There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him.
There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme
There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill.
There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex
marriage.
There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion.
There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito.
These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial
birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.
Let’s take a look at the practice he wanted to continue
The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedures:
A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby’s leg with forceps.
(Remember this is a live baby)
B. The baby’s leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
C. The abortionist delivers the baby’s entire body, except for the head.
D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are
then opened to enlarge the hole.
E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child’s
brains are sucked out, causing the
skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.
God help him.
There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law. Think about
this: You can’t give a kid an aspirin
without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion without
parental notification. This is insane.
There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years.
Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright
teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright’s sermons. I wonder why
now?
Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple
is one in training. Jesus told us
in Matthew 28:19 – 20 ‘Go and make disciples of all nations.’ This means
reproduce yourself. Teach people
to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you believe
etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?
Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets
that said they have a
1. Commitment to the White Community
2. Commitment to the White Family
3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available
to the White Community.
5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White
Institutions
6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the
White Value System
7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Would you support a President who went to a church like that?
Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama’s
former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he
would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been
marching outside. This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not
wake up after 20 years and just discovered he went to a racist church. The
church can’t be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He
came for the whole world. A church can’t have a value system based on
race. The churches value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It
does not matter if it’s a white church or a black church it’s still wrong.
Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my
vote.
Obama’s former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian
James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone
once wrote: ‘Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified
totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and
against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him.
Cone is the man Obama’s mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?
So what does all this mean for the nation?
In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead
a nation it meant one thing – judgment.
Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel 1:9
‘Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king
who will reign over them will do.’
Then God says 1 Samuel 1:18 ‘ When that day comes, you will cry out for
relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in
that day.’ 19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. ‘No!’ they said.
‘We want a king over us. :20 Then we will be like all the other nations,
with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.’ 21
When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD.
22 The LORD answered, ‘Listen to them and give them a king.’
Here is what we know for sure. God is not schizophrenic. He would not tell
one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain. As the scripture
says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people
are not hearing from God.
Maybe I am the one not hearing, but I know God does not change and Obama
contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it.
For all my friends who are voting for Obama, can you really look God in the
face and say; Father based on your word, I am voting for Obama even though I
know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abortion. He
might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court justices, and I am sure
he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are
against you. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights,
even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look the
other way because of the economy.
I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama’s positions. Finally I
have two questions for all my liberal
friends. Since we know someone’s value system has to be placed on the
nation,
1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation.
2. Who should determine that this is the right value system for the nation?
Blessings,
Huntley Brown

Steve: “Paul, you hit the nail on the head. This has little to do with Obama or McCain. This has to do with Powell getting even with republicans.”
Steve, that struck me as a rather coherent response.
Specifically, your use of the word “this” either indicates to me you are confused or you trying to confuse others.
You responded to and quoted from my post about Obama working across the aisle. Specifically, I posted that Lugar refuted the earlier McCain attack that Obama never had worked across the aisle. And then I mentioned that its pretty bad when McCain’s statements are fact checked and countered by those in his own party.
Therefore, I would assume that was what “this” was about.
And you turned it into another railing against Powell.

Dee, I wish I could believe what you said but do you really think that 95% of blacks are voting Obama because of his ideas? Come on now — that is a big number.

Huntley Brown
thank you for you comment what you said makes alot of sense just to be clear here I’m not the Steve in the blog battle with Paul I’m the Steve who posted the story about my daughter who is white going to a black church with her friend we have always taught our kids to be open to all people no matter what color they are but because my daughter is white she was made to feel like she didn’t belong at the black church she went to with her friend why is this , is it because black people want to turn the table on white people myself and my family have never had anything to do with suppressing the black community but because we are white we are put in the same category as the white people who are racists and I feel that since Obama is black then those same people who judge me for being white are the same ones who will put him in office no matter what the cost meaning they will lie and cheat to make it happen look at Acorn most of the folks working there are black

That’s true, blacks do vote democratic. But even if Clarence Thomas were running as a conservative democrat, I do not believe most black people would vote for him. Ideology counts more than race among blacks. By the way Blacks in 2008 would not have wasted their primary vote on Jesse Jackson either had he been running.

“notable was the absence of”
Sorry

Come on Dee 95% just look at how many blacks have registered for this election that didn’t vote in the last several, its because he is black and that’s the only reason, even Powell said race has a little to do with it, if he told the truth he would say race has alot to do with it, Acorn has been targeting the black community, last month I was at a store and two people wearing Acorn t-shirts who were also black walked right past me to a group of black people and asked them to register not even paying me any mind at all how do they know that I wasn’t registered

Dee: “Black people aren’t supporting Obama because he is black. They are supporting him because they support him politically…”
Well, Dee, we don’t have to be like Republicans refusing to acknowledge what we know to likely be true.
The likely truth here is that Obama’s skin color is contributing to some of his African-American support.
How couldn’t it? He’s the first, and especially for older African-Americans the pride from seeing something like that has to be pretty strong.
Ironically, younger African-Americans understand he’s the first but are probably inclined to think, “so what?” Their lack of depth of understanding is the benefit of a generation before that hopes and prayed their children wouldn’t understand what they did.
But for older folks, who in their lifetimes experienced black only drinking fountains, black only motels, black only schools, etc., it must be amazing to see this nation of the verge of electing a black president.
But that pride isn’t the only thing driving these millions of voters. Clinton had the majority of their support before the primaries, and Obama was the same color then he is now. Many of them do vote the issues, and make their discerning choices about which candidate their party ought to nominate.
So, yes its a factor but its not the only factor, and most likely as a political attribute its a diminishing factor with each generation.

Kennedy was put in office by the mob like it or not thats the truth and it was the mob who took him out because he turned on them, in this election it’s Acorn who will put Odama in office with their voter fraud

To those who think that Secretary Powell’s endorsement was based on race, I say I believe he said exactly what was on his mind, and I believe he meant every word he said-He doesn’t like the nasty tone the Republican party has taken on, nor its extreme social views. Powell is a traditional country-club Republican libertarian of the Rockefeller – Goldwater Episcopalian ilk, like George Will
s, and he doesn’t like the Know-Nothing Fundamentalist far-right crowd or their hostile, uncivil ways-and neither does George Wills. He also thinks that Palin is a not very bright rookie who would be a disaster if she inherited the White House, and I think all of the evidence shows that he is right about that-another view shared by George Will, who is a self-described conservative of very long standing. Those of us on the far side of 50 remember a civil, responsible, mainstream Republican Party, the party of President Eisenhower, which bore precious little resemblance today’s Republican party, the party of Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, and Sarah Palin. I frankly think President Eisenhower and Senator Goldwater would despise today’s Republican party.

Two weeks from today, Americans will be asked to cast their vote for the next president of the United States. There’s no time to wait. Let’s get right to it.
Did you hear what Senator Biden said at a fundraiser on Sunday? He guaranteed that if Barack Obama is elected, we’ll face an international crisis within the first six months of their administration. He told Democrat donors to mark his words – that there were “at least four or five scenarios” that would place our country at risk in an Obama administration. Thanks for the warning, Joe!
He didn’t specify what all those four or five scenarios will be, but for clues, let’s review the Obama foreign policy agenda.
Our opponent wants to sit down with the world’s worst dictators. With no preconditions, he proposes to meet with a regime in Teheran that vows to “wipe Israel off the map.” Let’s call that crisis scenario number one.
Senator Obama has also advocated sending our U.S. military into Pakistan without the approval of the Pakistani government. Invading the sovereign territory of a troubled partner in the war against terrorism. We’ll call that scenario number two.
He opposed the surge strategy that has finally brought victory in Iraq within sight. He’s voted to cut off funding for our troops, leaving our young men and women at grave risk. He wants to pull out, leaving some 25 million Iraqis at the mercy of Iranian-supported Shiite extremists and al Qaeda in Iraq. By his own admission, this could mean our troops would have to go back to Iraq. Crisis scenario number three.
After the Russian army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence – the kind of response that would only encourage Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine next. That would be crisis scenario number four.
But I guess the looming crisis that most worries the Obama campaign right now is Joe Biden’s next speaking engagement. Let’s call that crisis scenario number five.
The real problem is that these warnings from Joe Biden are similar to his earlier assessment of Barack Obama. It wasn’t so long ago that he said Barack Obama wasn’t up to the job, and that, quote, “the presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.”
The same Joe Biden said he would be honored to run on the ticket with John McCain because, quote, “the country would be better off.” And here we have some common ground. I want a president who spent 22 years in uniform defending our country. I want a president who isn’t afraid to use the word “victory” when he talks about the wars we are fighting. I want a president who’s ready on Day One. I want a president with the experience and the judgment and the wisdom to meet the next international crisis – or better yet to avoid it. I want John McCain as our commander-in-chief.

first to answer Paul it was the mob ran unions, look at how much time he spent in mob ran Vegas I’m from a long line of union people and the stories the same unions take your dues and spend it putting the people they want in office and back then the unions were ran by the mob so then it was the mob who put him in office and for want Howard Hunt said that was just to clear his name it doesn’t mean it’s true JFK even went to the mob to get at Castro anyone can say anything it doesn’t make it true and throughout history it’s always the guy who’s dieing or dead telling his side of the story why not tell it when your still around to back it up and to Charles what I’m saying is that I’m a Republican
and was planning on voting for Obama because I didn’t like the way my party was going but when you really look at it the Dems are doing the same type of stuff, this election will be decide by race and gender so my vote is wasted ether way, I’m not giving my vote to Obama to go along with all the black votes and I’m not giving my vote to McCain just because he has Palin so it looks like I’m no voting because the tone is the same from both sides

Whether you stupid republicans believe it or not, its time for change and that change is gonna happen soon coz God himself has already blessed Obama to be the next president of the United States of America.

Obama is my canidate and i like him because of who he is. Even if Obama’s supporters who havent read this book you’re talking about read it now, it wont change anything coz our minds are already made up to vote for Obama.

Steve, there is a difference between obvious typos and being educationally challenged. If you are a teacher (and so am I) you understand this very well. In all honesty, don’t you think it is McCain who is saying anything and doing anything just to get elected? McCain really wanted Lieberman. He chose Palin, not because she was best for the country, but because he was persuaded that she was best for the ticket. McCain used to be a reformer–certainly more of one than he is now. But in order to get the good housekeeping seal of approval from the RNC and Bush, he had to reverse himself on a number of things. I do not really even think he believes the stuff he is saying about Obama. He is saying them because he feels he will win more votes.
On the flip, there are a lot of TRUE things, things that can’t be disputed or nuanced that Obama and his surrogates–and the so-called liberal media that gave Bush and company a free ride for 8 years–could be saying that they are too honorable to state. What about McCain’s D rating among Iraq and Afghanistan Veteran groups based on his voting patterns on veteran’s issues? What about the Keating 5 and Gordon Liddy (unrepentant ex-con)? What about the Palins’ ties to the Alaska Independence Party, a group whose founder, Vogler, has said things that make statements by Rev. Wright look like child’s play? What about the fact THAT MANY VIETNAM VETS BELIEVE that McCain sang for his supper while he was in the Hanoi Hilton? What about how many feel about what really happened with the plane crash(es) that killed 130 people? What about the grimey way McCain treated his first wife? Even the Reagans basically broke ties with him for that and why many people (republicans) view Cindy as a home wrecker? What about the fact THAT ALMOST EVERY MEMBER OF THE SENATE HAS A McCain letter where McCain is apologizing for some over-the-top outburst with one of his colleagues? What if one of Obama’s daughters were 17 and pregnant? What would Rush and Dobson, and Tony Perkins be saying then?
On another subject, What about the true meaning of pro-life–a meaning that the Catholic Church and many other Christians embrace that includes all of the threats to human life–war, poverty, disease, homelessness, etc, and not just abortion? Jesus loved the poor and had very disparaging views about those who think money is more important than any thing else. The Christian Right is neither–neither Christian nor right.

Hi Mariama
your right he has probably already won but its not about hate its about the double standard in this country when a black church is started or a black club or a black political group its ok because the black people in this country have been saying for years that they don’t have a voice and now they have a black man who is going to be the next president but when you have a white group or white club or church started it becomes racists this is why most white people feel the way they do, white people today didn’t have anything to do with slavery and most aren’t racists so if the black community would start treating people based on the why they are treated which is in the most part they way most of us were raised is to respect all people then maybe you wouldn’t hear the comments like he going to win because he is black I’m a middle aged white man and most of my friends are of color when I hear a black person say they have a right to something because of the way blacks have been treated in the past this makes me angry because I had nothing to do with it, don’t assume that because I’m white I won’t vote for Obama I’m not voting for ether side because of all the stuff being tossed around, what if everyone said we have had enough and didn’t vote at all, then want would Washington do, when my children act out I ignore them and it amazing how fast the straighten up, its hard for me to teach my kids to respect everyone when my daughter goes to a all black church with her friend and is treated like a outsider even her black friend was sadden by this she said she was not going back to that church if they didn’t allow white people to attend she has told me that she feels funny when she is around other blacks because they question why she has white friends this is truly very sad but it also the message that most blacks send

DEE: maybe you should read what I wrote before you responed I said I wasnt voting because both side are throwing around trash you make it sound like I all for McMain both sides have had things in their past that we should look at no one is perfect but Im not going to vote with all the pepole voting for McCAIN because of Palin and I not voting with all the blacks for Obama read what I said about McCain picking Palin to counter the black vote get with the program or get off the blog

You can argue until the cows come home between McCain and Obama. Truth is, Obama is a fraud. McCain might not be great, but Obama is a complete fraud. Visiting his mother is a political move. Just like McCain’s was said to be when he went to Washington when the bailout issue was first announced.

excuse me i meant to say “grandmother” – yeah, also the one he called racist in his book. Whatever. The guy is a joke.

dee: “He is able to see many different points of view that perhaps black Americans with more remote white ancestry and white Americans with more remote black ancestry can not see.”
Yes, that must be why listened to a racist minister for 20 yrs so that he could see andl learn about the many different points of view.

mark: **Obama is a fraud. **
“That is laughable.. It is McCain who is putting McCain first, not Country.”
Oh okay. Obama is still a fraud no matter what McCain is, does, stands for.It doesn’t change Obama’s strategies.

msa,
You last comment was not exactly original. What do you think would have happened if social security had been privatized during the bush years? What is wrong with giving the overwhelming majority of people(95%) a tax cut? Even Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and many other wealthy people feel they can do with out additional tax cuts and still be very rich and still have money to invest in the economy. If the trickle down theory had worked, then the bush tax cuts for the rich would not have created so many deficits and a crash of our economic system.

dee: “What do you think would have happened if social security had been privatized during the bush years?” How is that an argument? It was never tried.
“What is wrong with giving the overwhelming majority of people(95%) a tax cut?” Because if I work my butt off to build a company, I don’t think it’s right to take from me to give to you. I would rather give to my employees and through charity and other programs… not have it forcefully taken from me. I earned it. I went the extra mile, had the brains, invented it, took the risk, whatever. It’s just not right.
“Even Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and many other wealthy people feel they can do with out additional tax cuts and still be very rich and still have money to invest in the economy.” Well DUH. I’m sure they make a tad more than 250k AGI
“If the trickle down theory had worked, then the bush tax cuts for the rich would not have created so many deficits and a crash of our economic system.”
Do you really think the really rich are ever going to share their wealth. That is a joke. It has not been that way since the beginning of time. As usual, it’s hitting the upper middle class. Same ol, same ol

Truth: The “powers that be” are shoving Obama at us to keep us quiet and so we can feel warm and fuzzy inside while the CEOs making off with millions get bailed out… but we’re off busy looking “hope and change”. What a scam it all is. And I’m not for McCain. This election, it is all as clear as can be.

msa, Thank God, given what has happened in our financial markets recently that social security was not privatized. That subject is dead. Good riddance.

You Obama fans live in a “pie in the sky” world. The rich and powerful will always reign. Might as well get used to it. You are truly chasing a dream and a cloud. Go for it. LOL

msa, Thank God, given what has happened in our financial markets recently that social security was not privatized. That subject is dead. Good riddance.
BTW in my previous comment I meant “no one” not “know one”.

What does all of this fighting accomplish? Why not just vote for who you want and let it be at that? I hear some terrible things said about Christians but does anyone realize what it means to be a christian? If you would really like to know read the King James Bible – Matthew, Mark , Luke and John. I was never happy until I gave my life to Jesus, I never did anything right until I made him my priority. I know who I am going to vote for but my vote will not be cast because of the economy because my lord keeps me. I will cast my vote on moral issues, not my wallet.

Are some of you losing your minds? Powell didn’t make the Republicans….the Republicans made him. Reagan made him a four star general. Bush I made him chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. Bush II made him Secretary of State. He would be nothing if not for them. Nice kick in the pants. And, as for him saying that the republican party is getting narrower…that is ridiculous. It is an inclusive party with a tremendous diversity of opinion. The libs just like to paint an incorrect portrait of the party. And the media just help them along with that. Good job, ABC.
McCain Palin 08

look how the media acted when clinton was having sex in the oval office they went after the people that were investgating it not Clinton we have had people from both side do things like this but when its a Rep the media is all over them but not when its a Dem they might report it but not like they do when its a Dem involed

Diane in California.
Obama doesn’t personally believe in abortion and all those other things you list. He doesn’t believe the GOVERNMENT should have control over our choices. Your so-called Christian beliefs and faith are between you and your Creator. Read I Tim. 2:5–There is one mediator between men and God….and it’s not the President of the US or any other person. We all will have to answer for the deeds done in these bodies.. so enlighten yourself and speak the truth.

I’m a little surprised a person of substance and intellect would endorse someone with neither. Hussein Obama is an empty suite controlled by the communists of this country.

The Barack Obama Campaign has so far refused to release Senator Obama’s birth certificate. This refusal has struck a lot of observers of the political scene as rather odd. Unlike tax or medical records, a birth certificate should not have anything embarrassing.
Speculation, naturally, is somewhat rife.
National Review political analyst Jim Geraghty suggests a number of unlikely reasons:
One would be that Barack Obama was not born in the United States, but in Kenya, his father’s country of birth. This scenario is very unlikely as it would require all of Obama’s family and friends to lie consistently about the circumstances of Obama’s birth. However, if true, it could mean that Obama is not a natural born American citizen and is therefore ineligible for election to the Presidency.
The scenario of Obama being born in a foreign country reminds one of the kerfuffle that occurred when some suggested that John McCain was not a real native born citizen for having been born in the then Panama Canal Zone, The media huffing and puffing became such a distraction that the US Senate had to vote to confirm Senator McCain’s citizenship just to quite it.
The other scenario Geraghty comes up with is some kind of embarrassing name change. Say Obama’s middle name was changed from Mohammed to Hussein or his first name from Barry to Barack. The problem is that in the first instance the new middle name would be no more or less unsettling than the old one and in the second instance it is a non issue. Gary Hart, who ran for President in 1984 and 1988, had changed his name from Hartpence to Hart. It was the subject of some humor, but did not affect his runs for the Presidency.
Wilder speculation will no doubt ensue, at least until the birth certificate is released. Maybe the people that Obama claims as his parents are not listed as his parents on the document? Unlikely again, but who knows?
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Wow!
As I read through these comments, I just can’t believe some of the things that are being said, especially for those of you who are throwing around God, Christ, Jesus or whatever religion you believe in like you really truly believe in it.
All Christians, including Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant Christians, believe Jesus was both God and man.
Christian teaching is that the death and resurrection of Jesus are the signs of his power to forgive the sins of any person who turns to him and truly asks for forgiveness. The Bible says that sinners who are forgiven should try to live a new life and NOT go back to their sinful behaviour. Christians believe that knowing about God’s love helps people to live a new and better life.
All of you who so call yourself Christains whether you go to church, carry around the cross or have pictures of Jesus on a cross in your home – do you really know what you are believing in? The cross is important because Jesus died as a sacrifice for the sins of believers. It represents God’s love for humanity.
Now, I don’t care what religion people choose to govern their lives, whether it’s Christianity, Islam, Hinduism or Buddhism etc…..it ALL boils down to ONE COMMON thing….you practice religion because you believe in goodness. What is so discerning is those of you who practice religion, pray to your God or whatever and THEN you turn around judging other people because of their race, religion or even their social behaviors. Who are you to judge anyone?
Obama is NOT a Muslim, he is a Christian—get that straight! And, what if he or anyone else is Muslim, there is nothing wrong with that. Don’t lump the behaviors of one person or a small group of crazy terrorists to one race. Whether you vote for OR don’t vote for Obama, do it because you agree or don’t disagree with his political ideology, not because of the color of his skin. He is a man running for President.
My husband and I believe that McCain lost our confidence when he picked Sarah Palin as VP. He risked the well-being of this country for his own selfish quest to become President, just like he has been trying to do so since 2000. Palin is a heartbeat away from being President and the only reason she was picked because he thinks that she could attract women voters and those upset by Hilary’s lost. Shame on him to put his interest first rather than ‘Country First’….there are so many qualified VP picks out there, but he had to chose Palin so he can win an election. This is the beginning of his poor judgement and one that has clearly dictates even the way he has been running his campaign….one that is divisible and the policies that are so out of touch of this modern era (nothing different from those of BUSH). Even Republicans are denouncing it and crossing party lines to back Obama.
Yes, my husband and I fall under Obama’s tax so we will be TAXED and we don’t believe that it’s socialism. Please…this country has always been about capitalism and no one man, not even any one President can ever turn it into a socialistic one, that’s why we have 2 term limits. This country has been divided economically and socially under Bush’s administration and he has forgotten about the middle class by helping his RICH elite friends and the RICH CEOs and the lobbyists. This economic crisis is the testament of his presidency and it brought to light how the middle class has suffered because of his policies or lack thereof. The tsunami of his presidency has come crashing down leaving wreckage and trampled the hopes of many American dreams…they lost their homes and savings because he refused to regulate these big corporations who are gauging people out of their hard earn money.
We need a new President with new ideas and new policies. McCain’s ideas and policies will be just like that of Bush’s and we will be exactly like we are for the last eight years.
We are Republicans now voting for Barack Obama!!

It all comes down to what Billy Graham says in his prayer for our country. You Obamaites better wise up! If socialism/communism is so great why do so many people want to ESCAPE from Cuba/China/Russia and the like. They call it “escape” because you’re not free to leave, live, feel, speak without governmental control. Do you even know how many evening dinners Obama AND his wife spent w/ a known socialist in CA, all the while Obama toasting to the man’s character?! Yes this race has been racist from the start but I would vote for polka dotted Christian before I’d vote for pro-socialist like Obama. Do any of you remember the warning about Sleeper Cells after 9/11? No?, well let me introduce you to Barack Obama.
Billy Graham’s Prayer For Our Nation
‘Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, ‘Woe to those who call evil good,’ but that is exactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values. We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery. We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare. We have killed our unborn and called it choice. We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable. We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem. We have abused power and called it politics. We have coveted our neighbor’s possessions and called it ambition. We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression. We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment. Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and Set us free. Amen!’
Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio program, ‘The Rest of the Story,’ and received a larger response to this program than any other he has ever aired. With the Lord’s help, may this prayer sweep over our nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called ‘One nation under God.’
Think about this: If you forward this prayer to everyone on your e-mail list, in less than 30 days it would be heard by the world. (It’s worth a try!) One Nation Under God.

Perhaps now would be a good time for all of those labeling Obama a socialist to head over to their book cases, dust off the dictionary and look up the meaning of socialism. Then, time permitting read a few history books on what real socialism means historically. Nazi Germany was a socialist country. If you think the USA is headed in that direction, perhaps now would be a good time to pack you bags and leave, while you still can. For one to equate Obama with a socialist, displays a lack of truth and understanding as to the true meaning of the word socialism. Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free. You must be color blind to see the truth. Now is the time for unity, not division, for cooperation, not competition. Great leaders take people where they need to be, not where they want to go. As Ghandi said, “An eye or an eye will make the whole world blind”.