Reagan’s Solicitor General/McCain Adviser Charles Fried Voted for Obama
Charles Fried, the Solicitor General for President Ronald Reagan, announced today that he has already voted for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
Chief among his reasons: "the choice of Sarah Palin at a time of deep national crisis."
In addition to losing the support of a highly-respected conservative, what must especially smart for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is that Fried actually served as an adviser to his campaign.
As Talking Points Memo points out, Fried served on McCain’s Honest and Open Election Committee and his Justice Advisory Committee.
Fried writes to Cass Sunstein in an e-mail:
"I admire Senator McCain and was glad to help in his campaign, and to be listed as doing so; but when I concluded that I must vote for Obama for the reason stated in my letter, I felt it wrong to appear to be recommending to others a vote that I was not prepared to cast myself. So it was more of an erasure than a public affirmation–although obviously my vote meant that I thought that Obama was preferable to McCain-Palin. I do not consider abstention a proper option."
- jpt
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Posted by: Tungsten | October 24, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
WOW!
Someone has got to vote for mccain and palin.
I wonder who cindy is voting for?
I would vote for him…but
TO LATE! I ALREADY VOTED FOR BARACK!
Posted by: cheer up,smile, nertz | October 24, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Mark my words, we now have “Obama Republicans.”
Posted by: The Unshrub | October 24, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Just goes to show that some of the thinking Republicans know who is better for this country.
Posted by: Jwench | October 24, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Jwench,
That’s a rather naive perspective. The far right of the Republican party has always despised McCain because they see him as too moderate, too willing to cross the aisle. They want to make sure he’s totally buried so that the Democrats get their one term shot with the incompetent Obama, so the Republicans can correct their navigation and return to what they believe is fundamental conservatism. An incompetent Obama represents the shortest path to that goal.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 24, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
People with no principles tend to shift to the wining side, like this person and Collin Powell.
He wants another advisor in Obama’s administration like Colin Powell. This person want to vote for Obama, just vote for him, but didn’t need to say “”the choice of Sarah Palin at a time of deep national crisis.”
By the time she chose Palin, the economy isn’t facing crises yet.
I’m sure McCain and Palin will get many sympathy and empathy vote from a person like me, who always voted for Democrats in the past.
Posted by: another Judas | October 24, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Jwench,
That’s a rather naive perspective. The far right of the Republican party has always despised McCain because they see him as too moderate, too willing to cross the aisle. They want to make sure he’s totally buried so that the Democrats get their one term shot with the incompetent Obama, so the Republicans can correct their navigation and return to what they believe is fundamental conservatism. An incompetent Obama represents the shortest path to that goal.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Oct 24, 2008 11:39:09 PM
I don’t think after the campaign McCain has run that they are very likely to capture the WH any time soon. Say like the next 20 years. We are watching the Republican party self destruct.
Posted by: Jwench | October 24, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Hmmm. I think it’s bizarre that people actually think Biden is a decent selection, even compared to Palin…I thought his career was washed up 20 years ago when he was caught lying…just goes to show, as long as it sounds good.
Hope you guys are right about Obama…his past indicates no, but he might moderate out if we complain enough.
Posted by: Wade | October 24, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
I don’t blame them for jumping. Why would you want to be part of incompetence and sleaze?
Posted by: jerryz Burbank, IL | October 24, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
WestCoastMessenger,
“The far right of the Republican party has always despised McCain because they see him as too moderate, too willing to cross the aisle. They want to make sure he’s totally buried”
HUH ?
So they rather have the Rush Limbo type of Repub, rather than the McSame type of Repub ?
Are they actually looking to WIN in the FUTURE ??
Jwench MUST be right … The thinking ones are absconding from the nut jobs …
Posted by: Blogger | October 24, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
To: cheer up,smile, nertz:
go fight for real in the real war zone, you will understand.
______________________________________
I’ve read Colin Powell’s “my american jorney” book and I admired him and respect his service. In this case, he’s nothing but an opportunist politician. I don’t think you want to have this guy watching your back in the war zone, he’ll left you and flee to the wining side.
I know why these so-called republicans dislike McCain because McCain always reach out to both parties because he believes in bipartismship and the extreme republicans think McCain is too liberal in they eyes.
Posted by: NOGGIN | October 25, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
I don’t think these republicans that are jumping ship are doing it because they want to be on the team they think is going to win. I think it’s because they care to much about this country to let Palin become VP. There’s too many serious issues going on. She couldn’t even explain the role of VP to a third grader. Now that’s sad. The McCain campaign tried to clean it up by saying well she was talking to a third grader. You mean to tell me that a third grader can’t understand that when it comes to the senate one of the VP’s role is to cast the final vote when there is a tie. We have got to give our young people more credit then that. Last year I attended a Black History program at the school my grand daughter attends. it’s for preschool to third grade and it’s multicultural. This little girl stood up and presented herself as Hillary Clinton. Her performance was outstanding. She was 3 years old and white. It’s important that we help our children recognize their potential at a young age. Palin told that third grader inaccurate information. So, she did more harm than good when it came to educating that child.
Posted by: MsLena | October 25, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
I will be glad when the republican party goes away regroups and comes back,
they have all joined obama, or taken to the hills.
and the ones who are left have started to form a circular firing squad.
the few mccain people you see interviewed on tv, seems pissed off,
and just not wanting to talk to anyone,
and john mccain is the no. one pissed offer.
Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz | October 25, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
You people are so quick to judge, and call everyone who doesn’t agree with you or the Republican party a ‘JUDAS’. Well, it is John McCain and Sarah Palin that are scaring your own people away…Obama is not stealing them!
The radical religious right has had a stranglehold on the Republican party for so long that the Republican Party is now gasping for air and life-support. As the Republican party has been excluding more groups of people each election cycle from the ‘big tent’…there is obviously nothing left but a bunch of clowns, calling everyone who doesn’t agree with them Anti-American. When John McCain loses, don’t blame Obama, blame John McCain and his dysfunctional campaign.
Posted by: MJ | October 25, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Oh, NOGGIN, you so cute,
I wubed your little note to me.
NOGGIN-”It’s like preschool on Tv”
(I didn’t know colin powell’ book had been printed in preschool cardboard)
Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz | October 25, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Hey Joe,
Have you posted the people that is not voting for Obama because of his inexperience and lack of achievements? Remember that there are many of us that haven’t been brain watched or one 5 minutes of fame in your blog and use McCain’s age or Palin as excuse. If they are so afraid of her experience, what about Obama.
Imagine his popularity if the biased press dig more into his records and real life as hey have done with the Clintons, Gore, Edwards, and now Palin.
This is getting ridiculous. It would be hilarious to see their faces if the messiah loses! LOL
Posted by: Peter_OR | October 25, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Imagine his popularity if the biased press dig more into his records and real life as hey have done with the Clintons, Gore, Edwards, and now Palin.
This is getting ridiculous. It would be hilarious to see their faces if the messiah loses! LOL
Posted by: Peter_OR | Oct 25, 2008 12:31:30 AM
Don’t you think that with the money and power that the Clinton’s have that they could’ve buried him. Didn’t happen. They are backing him now. So these little stories you read on your right wing rags must not have any truth to them.
Posted by: Jwench | October 25, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Say what you want, McCain is a leader not a follower and he’s paying the price. That’s what all these people are. Obama’s a smart person. It won’t take him long to realize he’s been out manipulated. Biden wasn’t his choice. This is the way the game is played. Do what you have to do-to get what you want. There’s not enough money to keep all his campaign promises. When the public realizes this, they’ll leave just as quick as they came…just like his Party “friends.”
Posted by: RL in Illinois | October 25, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Seems like McCain’s choice of Palin as his VP was the straw that broke the camel’s back for many Independenta and even Republicans.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | October 25, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
What you’d expect from a lawyer.
Posted by: jcarob | October 25, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Joe the plumber is McCain’s advisor and strategist now.
Posted by: Mohamed | October 25, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
mj,
you are so right, i cannot understand why others do not see it, or just cannot admit it.
with hillary and barack battling it out in the primarys, mccain got his parties nom. long ago, he and his handlers had a long time to put together an unstoppable ge campaign.
but it is like mccain just watched h and o battle it out like the rest of us.
he made a boneheaded mistake in picking palin,
i think palin is beginning to realize now she made a big mistake in accepting.
remember dan quayle, after being with bush 1, he could not get his political career on his own. he was to tainted.
i think the same will be for palin
it must have been ego that told her she could go from being who she was, to all of a sudden being on the national stage.
like i said i think they have circled the firing squad now. and i don’t think it will be pretty. mccain is mad, palin is, well? and mccain surrogates have run out of defense. everyday something new and tragic. the shopping was it for my independent neighbor. who is a hockey mom. in her words “I just felt sick when i heard about the clothes”
i now only feel sorry for the middle class republicans who gobbled up that line.
palin mocking hard working people with her “thank you for calling me a redneck”
line.
the term “redneck” came from hard working miners-fighting for their families. many “rednecks” died.
Virginia, west virginia, the real virginia, the carolinas should all turn blue.
maybe the next person who runs for president on the republican ticket will have their act together.
i think mccain and co. must have thought to themselves well the american people fell for george and his mess.
they will go for us.
not this time.
time for a change.
obama will win, and he will try his best to be the best he can. because he is the first black president.
and he has got some good minds standing with him.
george sunk mccain in his last bid for the white house, and george has sunk mccain this time.
Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz | October 25, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
McCain supporters are using every excuse, hyperbole, doom and gloom scenario, etc in the book. Get over it.
Face it. If you had not voted for George Bush we wouldn’t be in this mess and it would not have allowed somebody like Obama to flourish.
You created this situation when you chose to be like blind brainless sheep.
As far as I’m concerned if you voted for Bush, do us all a favor and stay home on election day. Wait, let me clarify that; if you voted for Bush in 2004, you are not even qualified to post your opinion. If you were a stockbrocker your clients would all be broke! So we don’t need the anti logic here.
Why 2004? Cause you all KNOW the man LIED to take us into war and you still voted for him. That MAKES YOU a terrorist as far as I’m concerned.
Posted by: JV | October 25, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
i think i heard john mccain concede today.
he was telling a crowd you don’t want a dem in the white house with a dem congress.
eveytime i hear him or his people say that, it think, they think it’ over too.
another observation. i thought usually the presidential nominee, sometimes goes and campaignes with some of the locals, I have seen obama do an ad, but i have not seen any mccain ads, helping the locals with their run or reelection.
nor has bush.
bush has messed up the republican brand so much, if it were food, it would be being recalled and pulled off the shelves.
Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz | October 25, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
The reason all those Republicans are leaving McCain in a flurry is because they’ve accomplished what they were after all along. They were able to appeal to McCain selfishness/convinced him to sell them his soul for the chance to be the Rep. candidate. Their real reason was once they got him,his whole political career as a decent /honorable person was theirs to play with/destroy. Remember McCain was considered too much of a thorn in the side of ultra-conservative Republicans. He realized to late that he was being used. The McCain of 2000 had a better chance than the one we see here in 2008.But this is what happens when you lay down with dogs, you’ll probably(and McCain did)end up with fleas, lice, parasites, etc..etc…
Posted by: ROC2341 | October 25, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
I still want to believe when this is all over, and mccain goes over this,
he will be ashamed to have run such a negative campaign.
Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz | October 25, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
I am so enjoying the guilty pleasure of watching Republican hysteria,paranoia and angst run wild as the ‘faithful’ repubs abandon ship…..
almost an early xmas present
Posted by: Blue | October 25, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Say what you want, McCain is a leader not a follower and he’s paying the price. That’s what all these people are. Obama’s a smart person. It won’t take him long to realize he’s been out manipulated. Biden wasn’t his choice. This is the way the game is played. Do what you have to do-to get what you want. There’s not enough money to keep all his campaign promises. When the public realizes this, they’ll leave just as quick as they came…just like his Party “friends.”
Posted by: RL in Illinois |
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No you can say what you want about mccain being a leader. The management of his campaign is clear indication of what kind of president he would be. He clearly is not a leader, more importantly he is a complete failure.
Posted by: SeeingABetterWorld | October 25, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Many traditional Republicans have finally come to accept that Neo-Conservatism is not just some contemporized little twist on traditional Conservatism. They have realized that, in fact, Neo-Conservatism is a radically anti-Conservative movement bent on wholly replacing traditionalism in order to become the sole ideology of the Republican Party.
The first objective of Neo-Conservatism is the extermination of traditional Republicanism.
Only then can it achieve its goals.
Traditionalists are finally realizing how truly extreme and radical the GOP has become. Traditional Conservatism (resistance to foreign intervention, fiscal responsibility, conservation, keeping the government out of our personal lives, etc.), now has FAR more of a home in the Democratic Party than in the new radical Neo-Con Republican Party.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | October 25, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
post mortems now being written for McCain & Palin indicate that the American electorate has finally begun the process of coming of age, they have identified and rejected the hate, fear and loathsome ideology of the Republican Party..
Smears, lies and innuendo will no longer pass for policy.
Hopefully, this new attitude and awareness will apply to all politicians ,that Americans are taking back the government, if you don’t get the job done you will be held accountable and voted out regardless of ones party affiliation.
Posted by: Blue | October 25, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
The Republicans need to give it up
and start a new party ….
its over for them on every level
city state federal ……
RIP……………………………
Posted by: Anita Yova | October 25, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
OBAMA\BIDEN CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE!!!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | October 25, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Funny how well the Palin/McCain campaign is uniting Americans around Barack Obama.
Posted by: doug | October 25, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
John MCcain was on his way to winning this election with the selection of palen.Verry attractive verry popular conservative governor she delivered a speech full of red meat that was written for her and the country specially the neocons fell in love,then she started expressing her own views specially damaging were the interviews with curric and the whole thing fell appart.She should have educated herself about world affairs and some civics readings would do her some good also.They could have pulled it off had she been a bit more curious about the world outside Alaska.She sure have a lot in common with George Bush she do not know how much she dont know.
Posted by: Maxim | October 25, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
Whoever advised McCain to pick Palin is
a culprit.
Am sure that was not McCain’s choice. He has been smart and he still is. Unfortunately he was forced and he acted accordingly.
Posted by: FM | October 25, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
It’s a sad day when Republicans are jumping ship.
Palin was the iceberg that sank the Titantic.
Once TrooperGate is over, she won’t even be governor of Alaska!
Posted by: Rev. Ike | October 25, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am
Where is my post? You keep deleting it???????
Posted by: J.R. | October 25, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am
Way to go “Hero” Tell us more about the half brother
Posted by: J.R. | October 25, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am
Rev.Ike
Berg is not black. And how can the courthouse have a record when neither hospital can verify that his mother was ever in their hospital?
Posted by: J.R. | October 25, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am
His name is Barak “Hussein” Obama. Lets see if this gets deleted.
Posted by: J.R. | October 25, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am
So you don’t like the middle name ” Hussein”
Posted by: J.R. | October 25, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am
This silly thing is the McCain team espouses just the same kind of fear that Johnson unleashed on Goldwater in 1964. We Americans have to stop being timid quailing rabbits, and stand tall in the shadow of our constitution.
The whole world is in danger, not from some nuts bent on killing themselves, but uninformed Americans. Just like the cartoon, “The enemy is us.”
Wake up – the last eight years have done more damage to our country than Bin Laden could have ever imagined in his delusional dreams. McCain is not the cure – he carries the virus.
Please, for your children’s sake, vote Democratic. Vote Obama
Posted by: Don Ross | October 25, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am
This was posted on Confluence…
Why do you think that the presidential candidates are always holding events here? Anyway – point is: FLORIDA will not go to the FL-primary and convention vote hoarder Barack Obama – the PUMA vote is in EFFECT. I’ve waited to see the SUSA polls for today, but the latest numbers for SUSA says the following for Florida:
52% of Hispanics are voting McCain
22% of African-Americans are voting McCain (WOW!)
13% of Liberals are voting McCain
39% of Moderates are voting McCain
34% of Pro-Choice voters are voting McCain
53% of Central Florida is voting McCain
18% of registered Democrats are voting McCain
44% of Independents are voting McCain
39% of non-Religious people are voting McCain.
The Florida Panther
PUMA is in definitely in effect. Normally, the above mentioned demographic groups would be skewed towards the Democratic side. Despite that, and as we’ve seen in previous elections, even a 1% difference means a LOT in Florida – Mel Martínez won his senate seat against the great Betty Castor by less than 100 votes. Too close to call and EVERY VOTE has to be counted and verified.
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | October 25, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am
Because of the character of the McCain campaign, McCain’s advisors, the selection of Palin and so many other missteps too numerous to mention, even reasonable Republican leaders are voting and endorsing Obama and they are not afraid to go public.
McCain has so alienated both Republicans and Democrats that even were he to win, he could never be able to work with Congress.
Posted by: Beto | October 25, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am
Sarah Palin a problem?
“Thank God She’s Not Going To Have To Be President From Day One.”
-Sen. Joe Lieberman (10/24/08)
Posted by: Bud | October 25, 2008, 6:08 am 6:08 am
Sarah Palin:
“Let’s hope she never has to be ready.”
Sen. Joe Lieberman (10/24/08)
That’s my prayer too Joe.
Posted by: Bud | October 25, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am
Thank God there are Republicans out there who are voting Country First. To hell with the party – this is too important.
Posted by: Former Republican | October 25, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am
No!
He’s endorsing Obama only because he’s black…Oh wait a minute…
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 25, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
It’s remarkable how much true Reaganite moderate conservatives find to like about Obama.
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It is!
The fact that Obama’s tax plan is almost an exact replica of Reagan’s helps. (But we all know Reagan was a “socialist” tight?)
Posted by: Republicans voting Obama | October 25, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am
Geez.
McCain is the one who wanted the government to bail out the bad mortgages and he calls Obama a socialist?
Hey John, get a dictionary.
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 25, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
THESE ARE THE REPUBLICAN “REFORMERS”
John McCain – Violation of Ethics
Sarah Palin – Violation of Ethics and Abuse of Power
Todd Palin – unelected individual uses power of Governor’s office to settle personal vendettas
Cindy McCain – stole drugs from a charity to feed her own addiction
Joe the Plumber – the lying plumber who does not pay his taxes
Ashley Todd – the lying victim who tried race baiting for John McCain
THIS IS THE “NEW” GOP. ALMOST MAKES BUSH AND CHENEY LOOK GOOD.
(And we don’t need conspiracy theory with biased speculation and fabricated accusations, all the above REALLY happened.)
Posted by: No Way! | October 25, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am
IN THE WORDS OF JOHN McCAIN
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Audience member: “Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism?”
McCAIN: “Here’s what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.”
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That “socialist” John McCain is so un-American.
Posted by: Oh, the Irony! | October 25, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am
Pub posters still playing kill the messenger? You have one lame candidate and one VERY lame candidate on the Republican ticket.
McCain tried to suck up to the right wing radicals instead of appealing to the middle. He was probably the one Pub that could have won in the current environment, but he decided on Palin.
That one decision, his first and only “Presidential decision”, was the nail in the coffin for his campaign.
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP | October 25, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
Notice to All Employees
As of November 5, 2008, when President Obama is officially elected into office, our company will install a few new policies which are in keeping with his new, inspiring issues of change and fairness:
1. All salespeople will be pooling their sales and bonuses into a common pool that will be divided equally between all of you. This will serve to give those of you who are underachieving a “fair shake.”
2. All low level workers will be pooling their wages, including overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally amongst yourselves. This will help those who are “too busy for overtime” to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time and can work extra hours.
3. All top management will now be referred to as “the government.” We will not participate in this “pooling” experience because the law doesn’t apply to us.
4. The “government” will give eloquent speeches to all employees every week, encouraging it’s workers to continue to work hard “for the good of all.”
5. The employees will be thrilled with these new policies because it’s “good to spread the wealth.” Those of you who have underachieved will finally get an opportunity; those of you who have worked hard and had success will feel more “patriotic.”
6. The last few people who were hired should clean out their desks. Don’t feel bad, though, because President Obama will give you free healthcare, free handouts, free oil for heating your home, free food stamps, and he’ll let you stay in your home for as long as you want even if you can’t pay your mortgage. If you appeal directly to our democratic congress, you might even get a free flat screen TV and a coupon for free haircuts (shouldn’t all Americans be entitled to nice looking hair?) !!!
If for any reason you are not happy with the new policies, you may want to rethink your vote on November 4th.
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | October 25, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
Steave Cuozzo,
Tax credits are hardly socialist. No need to exaggerate, if anyone’s a scoialist, it’s your candidate, John “POW” McCain. Don’t you call the government bailing out mortgages socialist? Well, that’s what your candidate proposed.
Socialism= Wealth Redistribution = No more private land, stakes of property. Everything belongs to the state, and can be redistributed equally among the people. Tax credits are hardly wealth redistribution, rich people still keep their houses, most of their money and so on.
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 25, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am
There is definitely some coalescing going on around Obama. Does this truly portend a landslide?
Posted by: matt | October 25, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Steve,
So when Reagan had the same tax structure Obama is proposing, he was a socialist. Wow. Who would have thought this would be the mind set of the “reformed” GOP?
And when wealth gets re-distributed FROM the middle class TO the wealthy, that’s now the American dream by “reformed” GOP ideology.
To help us understand contemporary GOP thought, let’s use a little of McCain’s own “straight talk” shall we:
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“Here’s what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.”
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Hmm. Now something seems VERY ODD about his statement. What could it be? Why does that seem strange?
Oh yes, McCain is obviously a socialist.
Posted by: Same Cut and Paste from yesterday Steve? | October 25, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
did anyone else see the headline, john mccain brother, joe, called 911 to complaint about traffic he was caught in, got mad and cussed and hung up. then called the police and did the same thing.
he said he is leaving the campaign.
he said he knows his brother will be mad.
Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz | October 25, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
We believe McCain will win Pennsylvania, and that the polls are oversampling Democrats, overestimating Republicans voting for Obama, underestimating Democrats voting for McCain, and deliberately oversampling the Philadelphia area. The same was true in the primaries, when polls showed Obama winning PA over Hillary Clinton: and we all know what happened there.
The SUSA poll is the most recent, being posted 10/21. It shows Obama ahead by 12, 53% to 41%.
If you dig into the crosstabs of the poll, you find the following:
The party affiliation breakdown is 52% Dem, 41% Rep, 6% Ind.
That is a pretty huge (11%) advantage for the Democrats. Considering the exit polling in 2004 (you remember those, the ones that said Kerry would win?) showed a party ID breakdown of 41D/39R/20I, this result is assuming that about 2 out of every 3 Independents is now a Democrat. Now I know why they do it, because it comes close to the current voter registration numbers, but this assumes that current voter registration will exactly predict voter actions, which has never occurred in PA in the past.
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | October 25, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
Steave Cuozzo,
When McCain is tied with Obama in places like NORTH DAKOTA- which went for Bush by 26 points, I find it hard to believe McCain can win Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Grey Matter | October 25, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
We know that Obama’s campaign has these endorsement events scheduled through the election – no surprise. In the mean time Obama is walking around Honolulu in street tough clothes. Is there a disconnect there?
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Don’t you think McCain is a traitor? He started accusing President Bush even though Bush endorsed him and voted for him. For his benefit he is willing to sell anything even it is against his won policy.
Posted by: robinson | October 25, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Honestly, do you blame Charles Fried for voting the way he did???
Posted by: Howard Gallas | October 25, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Can you nut case liberals please tell me how the hell we are going to pay for everything? Now your “BOY” Barnie wants to add more to an already growing debt and also cut 25% on Military spending and expects that the rich are going to pay for everything! Do you honestly think that there are that many rich people to make up a TRILION Dollars in new taxes? Dont think so, so guess who is going to get hit next, YOU!
Go ahead and vote Obama, in 2 years you will be crying how high your taxes are, that is if you are able to even have freedom to speak your thoughts! Dem Congress/Dem Senate/Dem President yeah that is exactly what this country needs!
NEW BEDFORD — After the November election, Democrats will push for a second economic stimulus package that includes money for the states’ stalled infrastructure projects, along with help paying for healthcare expenses, food stamps and extended unemployment benefits, U.S. Rep. Barney Frank said Thursday.
In a meeting with the editorial board of The Standard-Times, Rep. Frank, D-Mass., also called for a 25 percent cut in military spending, saying the Pentagon has to start choosing from its many weapons programs, and that upper-income taxpayers are going to see an increase in what they are asked to pay.
Posted by: chuck | October 25, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
more whacko attacks from the Mccain supporters…
and they wonder why Bill Weld and Powell..and this person and that person
and this person and that person
are all abandoning the Repubs in this election
maybe they should get some character…
because the attacks as of late are anything but noble…or American.
throw these bums out.
Posted by: dl | October 25, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Give this man a break.. his grandmother is severily ill and you are bitching about how he’s dressed.
Posted by: CLabs | October 25, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
WoW. I feel for McCain. The in fighting in the campiagn over Palin, more Republicans backing Obama then Dems backing McCain (which is why he picked Palin), and dropping in the polls.
He should have chosen Romney.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 25, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
today,
Let go of the hate that the McCain campaign has infected you with.
It’s well documented that McCain’s full-throated support of cuts for those in the top tax brackets represents something of a reversal since 2001, when he voted against Bush-backed tax slashes for top earners.
John McCain: “I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief,” he wrote in a statement at the time.
Now John McCain (2008) is calling John McCain (2000) a socialist!
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | October 25, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Clabs says “Give this man a break.. his grandmother is severily ill and you are bitching about how he’s dressed.”
Is it a bit odd that Obama’s grandmother is dying in squalid conditions and Obama made 4 million last year. Obama flew out in his private jumbo jet and did not bring any of the rest of the family?
McCain is faulted for having 7 houses in which he keeps his extended family. Not that McCain is a saint.
Hawaii is full of great places for the elderly and Obama is letting her die in a squalid apartment.
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
I noticed a few comments that I want to address. The stats for Florida could be correct-but it is not Florida that is an issue on electorial votes-It will be New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada-it is the west area. The increase of Hispanics voting for Obama have increased in this last month. I am volunteering in Colorado right now and there has been a big change on the ground.
Secondly: Obama’s family in Africa do not want to live here. He has several step brothers but they choose to live at home with their grandma-I have met young people from Sudan, such as the “lost boys”, even though they enjoyed America they wanted to go home and be with family in a safer region. Diaspora is a terrible thing on human beings. The Sudan boys wanted to go home an be with family. Family is the most important thing to these young men. Same for Obama’s family in Africa-
Shame on you to tear this important graceful belief into shreds.
Go Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Sophia Beck | October 25, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Obama had a ghost writer write a book about his father. No books about his grandmother who raised him. Never occurred to me until I saw Obama walking around the street in baggy pants, t-shirt, and shades.
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
@today
A good example of the Party of Racial Fear.
Posted by: Flash Override | October 25, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
today write “obama’s grandmother dying in “squalid” conditions
oy
Sarah, Joe the Plumber and the commenter “today”
the brains of the Mccain ticket
this time vote smart…
don’t vote for the idiot ticket
we’ve don that….
how’d the last 8 years work for ya?
Posted by: dl | October 25, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
dl – I see you are hitting the return twice for every line.
Name calling is fine, but how about getting some care to Obama’s grandmother. She seems to be dying alone in a 150 square foot apartment. Obama made 4 million last year and flew out in a private jet.
Lets get the poor old woman some health care.
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
In response to:
The apt is 150 square feet. Couldn’t the Obama’s with their wealth, get her into a better apartment? We know his brother in Kenya lives in a shanty on a dollar a month.
This is why we HAVE to SPREAD THE WEALTH. It is unfair that the Obama family should have members living like this – or that their family should shoulder the burden alone. They worked hard to get where they are.
You and I (and all Americans) have a responsibility to — and should help pay to get Obama’s grandmother and brother out of shanties and into first class, first world accommodations. Where’s your humanity? If for no other reason, give up some of your money and resources to help people like Obama’s grandmother and brother who are less fortunate — it is our patriotic duty!!
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Obama’s grandmother’s birthday is this Sunday. Shouldn’t the rest of the family be out there with her. Why didn’t they fill up that big empty private jet with family?
She is dying in a 150 square foot apartment?
The great uncle lives in Chicago? How about picking him up on the private jet and taking him to Hawaii?
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
today said how about getting some help for obama grandmother
Today. you don’t sound like you really care a flying fig about obama’ grandmother.
so cut the act.
the real deal here is;
how john mccain has his own party jumping ship because mccain has not told the people of this country what he will do differently from george bush about this ecomony,
how about mccain tell us how he is going to help.
Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz | October 25, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
How DARE you be critical, Today? You insensitively state: “The great uncle lives in Chicago? How about picking him up on the private jet and taking him to Hawaii?”
Why don’t YOU arrange to get the great uncle to Hawaii? You should SPREAD YOUR WEALTH and buy him a ticket. Or get your neighbor’s and friends. You are cruel and evil knowing he has a need and just being cynical instead of helping! This will ALL CHANGE when Obama/Biden win. We will MAKE YOU pay and TAKE some of what you have to help others like this poor great uncle. You monster!!!
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
It says a lot about the mentality of the posters who want to belittle Obama’s relationship to his grandmother.
But I’m sure they are probably some of the same people who describe themselves as – Christians, Moral Majority, Family Values people.
Mudslinging at its lowest.
Posted by: WeSupportObama | October 25, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
The topic of this blog is pretty clear yet some on here are going off on their own personal tangents.
It doesn’t seem like good news that Mr. Fried voted for Obama; even though most people do not know who he is, it emphasizes Palin’s negatives even among conservatives. On the plus side for McCain, Charles Krauthammer decided he would ‘go down with the ship’ and endorse him.
Posted by: MIguy | October 25, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
my friends don’t be to upset with today
today is really-john mccain.
negative ad money is getting tight.
this is the way john mccain has learned to use the internets
he is desperate.
Posted by: cheer up,smile,nertz | October 25, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
EVERY FORMER ADVISOR HAS A GRUDGE-
I LEARNED A GREAT DEAL ABOUT POLITICIANS THIS PRIMARIES AND GENERAL ELECTION
THEY ARE ALL BACKSTABBERS.
EVERYONE OF THEM WILL SELL A FRIEND TO PROMOTE THEIR AGENDA.
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE
**********************************************
I think that is true, people are watching MccAin and Palin selling out now.
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 25, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Voter2Be – I agree with you that we should get some of the Obama family around the old grandmother. Her brother, the great uncle, lives in Chicago. Obama could fly him in the empty private plane.
Lets also get some health care to the old grandmother. It would have been nice if Obama could have put her in a better apartment. He did make 4 million last year. Hawaii is full of great places for old people.
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
I have to hand it to Charles Fried and Colin Powell. There’s much you can criticize the Republicans for (basically everything), but one thing you cannot say about Republicans — they are not loyal. They will trash each other at the drop of a hat!! When President Clinton was accussed of sexual misconduct, the Democrats rallied around him immediately. When the blue dress was revealed, the Democrats stuck by Pres Clinton and went on the attack against the Republicans even if Pres Clinton had not been truthful and even lied in a sworn deposition since the principle of the Presidency was (in his view) above the law.
But not the Republicans!! They toss Sen McCain under the bus in the heartbeat because he chose Palin — a young Governor with (let’s face it) about the same amount of experience as Sen Obama.
It’ll be interesting over the next few days to see the other Republicans that will put the dagger in back of the McCain/Palin ticket. The beauty is they are ensuring that the Democrats will sweep not only the White House and the Congress. And I assure you when stuff surfaces about any Democrat, the Repub minority can scream, but the screams will be silenced by the LOYAL Dems who will, as always, circle around and protect their own.
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
First answer our question about McCain… why doesn’t he give his adopted daughter a full share of inheritance in their will instead of a fraction of what his blond haired children will get?? Obama did what’s right by his grandmother. I’m sure his half brother in Kenya is happy where he’s at, that’s his home. He may live on a $1 a day but remember that’s almost 80 shillings, which is what they live on there. The average Kenyan income is less than $400 so he’s an average Kenyan in the country of his choice. Stop trying to make something out of nothing. Obama’s winning, accept it.
Posted by: Julie | October 25, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
OK so the dude does not like or trust women, his problem.
Posted by: ME | October 25, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Barbara West Interviews Joe Biden
MUST SEE: How idiot Joe reacts to tough questions. Laugh at the person then files a complain that she was combative and unprofessional.
Obama campaign called Barbara West’s interview with Sen. Joe Biden unprofessional and combative.
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | October 25, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Julie – I agree that Obama’s brother may really enjoy living in a shanty on a dollar a month – with no protein – much like the French Obama thinks we should emulate. But the care of Obama’s surrogate mother is another story.
She is living in a squalid 150 square foot apartment – apparently dying alone. McCain was criticized for owning all of those houses in which he keeps all of the family relatives. I think we should get his grand moterh some health care and maybe fly her brother from Chicago out to say good bye to her. Plane tickets do not seem to be the problem.
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
So Charles Krauthammer decided he would ‘go down with the ship’?!
Funny – he put a couple of holes in the ship’s hull himself — I’ve seen him trash Palin too.
The Repubs do not deserve to win!! They turn on their own showing that they have no principles. They are all about what’s expedient at the moment.
They should all jump ship. And they should surrender their bank accounts too. It’s high time this country takes from those Repubs what belongs to the rest of us!!!
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Some on speeks the truth and it is his own party.Get the idea Mc Bush and time bomb.????????????????????????
Posted by: NH voter | October 25, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
The more I think about it, the prouder I am about Charles Fried! Basically, he agrees with what Sen. Obama said in the last Presidential Debate:
Americans have to give up their profligate ways! No Republican has attacked that point (not even Palin, but she probably isn’t smart enough to know what profligate means).
It means SPREAD THE WEALTH! All Americans have TOO MUCH. We have TOO MANY CARS, TVs, videogames, electronics, houses, clothes, meals, EVERYTHING. It’s not fair that we have so much and that people can choose to have whatever they want. We don’t need three meals of 3000 calories every day. We should only have two — or even one meal a day of 1000 calories. We’d all be slimmer and in better shape.
We must live simply so others may simply live.
Obama get’s it: we have to stop our profligate ways — and the Government will force us to do so.
Maybe a decrease in our wealth will also hurt others — but we’ll all be better people with better values.
It’s Charles Fried who did not get it. Even now I’m not sure he really gets it — it’s not about McCain choosing Palin. It’s about the Government putting an end to our profligate ways!
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Charles Fried is sometimes described as a conservative, but his political views are more classical liberalism.
So it shouldn’t be surprising that he joined the wishy-washy Republicans endorsing Obama.
See if they don’t reverse positions again when Obama fails to tackle the job because it’s above his pay grade.
Posted by: Donoke9_10 | October 25, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Julie:
I was with you up to:
“I’m sure his half brother in Kenya is happy where he’s at, that’s his home. He may live on a $1 a day but remember that’s almost 80 shillings, which is what they live on there. The average Kenyan income is less than $400 so he’s an average Kenyan in the country of his choice.”
McCain’s daughter may not be getting her “full inheritance” (not sure where you got that, but I hate McCain enough to go with it), but she’s getting at least 80 shillings. Her partial share will surely be hundreds of thousands of dollars or more, which is what we live on over here. The average American income is less than that and I think she’s in the country of her choice. Or at least her partial inheritance will be enough for her to go somewhere else.
But you did nail it on the main point – Obama’s winning.
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Voter2Be says “But you did nail it on the main point – Obama’s winning.”
I think you can say more than that. Obama has won. There is no denying it.
Now what?
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
I’d be careful about jinxing it, Today!
Obama has one — we got the vote out and worked the early voting and all that to make sure.
But it ain’t over until it’s over.
Or are you saying that if Obama wins, it’s over?!
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Voter2Be says “Or are you saying that if Obama wins, it’s over?!”
I am saying what do we do next? We could deport John McCain and his family.
What does America become now that Obama has won?
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
@Today:
We don’t deport McCain — first we spread all of his wealth. Then we put him in jail. And Charles Fried (anyone who turns like he did is at least felony stupid). Then we jail every American that should be making more than $250k but doesn’t because they don’t want to be taxed or are “disincentivized.”
Once all the Repubs are in jail, we turn to those Middle Class Americans with the profligate ways. If they’re fat, put them away. If they have more than one beer in the ‘fridge, lock ‘em up (bye bye Joe six pack). If they own a car, give them a bike. If their house is 2000 sq ft, put them in a 600 sq ft apartment. Fill all these empty 2000 sq ft houses with the druggies that were unfairly put in jail and other thugs that we’ll have to release to make room for all the Repubs and profligates we’ll be locking up.
You sure lack vision, Mr. Today. Or maybe you live in fear because Obama has won.
The Repubs — with this Trillion Dollar Bailout — are the ones that took our nation into socialism. They finally admit that free market capitalism is a crock.
It’s time for the enlightened age.
Brother, do you have a nickel to spare?
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
I’m pretty sure you’ll find Peggy Noonan voting for Obama as well. Many of the Reagan era conservatives seem to prefer his style.
Posted by: bubba | October 25, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
OK so the dude does not like or trust women, his problem. He must be a woman hater.
Posted by: me | October 25, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Here is a prime example of why Charles Fried might have not only voted for Obama but publicly announced it and asked to have his name removed from McCain campaign committees:
The Republicans sent Gov. Palin out to make an address – which they billed as a major policy address – regarding how government should respond to special needs children. In the course of the address Gov. Palin promised vast amounts of new government spending. Included was a promise to fund fully the amounts necessary to send special needs children to school, “including sending children to private schools” to address their needs. So far, so good. Ahhh – but here is the rub – how to pay for it – especially given that Sen. McCain has promised to enact a spending “freeze.”
Well, came the ever quick reply – let us just cut some of those earmarks. Gov. Palin then gave as the sole example cutting earmarks for research “about fruit flies.” Ha ha – gotcha there, you betcha – those silly fruit flies – how wasteful can you get?
Except one little thing. Turns out that fruit fly research is actually central to scientific understanding of many diseases and models that provide the basis for medical treatments and cures – specifically including autism.
Connecting the dots is a skill I perfected in the doctor’s office as a child. What happened to Palin?
Posted by: Bob | October 25, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Charles Fried is another intuitive conservative [Parker, Buckley, Merconish, Powell, etc.] who realized that he could NOT SELL HIS SOUL TO A NONEXISTANT IDEOLOGY. With McCain, the GOP leader for the moment, swinging so far to the right in his rhetoric recently [actually lunging and swinging daily from one lie to the next with no stable message ever], Charles Fried knew he could not ‘betray his core values’ to perpetuate the lie of McCain. Thank you Mr. Fried for realizing that McCain would absolutely be TERRIBLE FOR AMERICA!
Posted by: MadasHelinVA | October 25, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
NBC Obama spending $293,000 an hour in October
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | October 25, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Bob say “turns out that fruit fly research is actually central to scientific understanding of many diseases”
You left out the part that the research was going on in France. Now, I bow to your deep understanding of science, but I would prefer that the money be spent on a specific disease – say pancreatic cancer.
Now we often get medical samples in the US from countries like Canada- nice to have them on board doing research. The reason the medical samples come from outside the US, is that one wants samples where people have not been treated. We treat people here in the US.
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
It’s refreshing to find out that as loyal as the consciable moderate Republicans try to be, waiting till the last minute and praying that Palin proves not to be the mightmare that a lot of us have long considered her to be, they not only vote their conscience, but finally come to the realization that they must PUBLICLY divorce themselves from the MCain ticket.
Posted by: Bob | October 25, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
The research is actually going on in North Carolina. Paliin got that wrong as well, but why would you ever question any of the propaganda that she spews. BTW, fruit flies are especially important in genetic studies but you’d probably be against that also since it tends to support evolutionary theories.
Posted by: Bob | October 25, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
And so the mass exodus from John McCain continues. What does it say about a politician whose advisors find him so lacking that they vote for his opponent? Well, at least McCain still has Charles Krauthammer as a fervent supporter!
Posted by: chuck | October 25, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Bob – we can argue about where the research is being done, but fruit flies are not the best of genetic research. The best genetic research in the world is being done at the Broad Institute at MIT. They did do some fruit fly work years ago, but have moved on to mainly mammals. My point remains, I would prefer to see research directed at curing diseases rather than publishing obscure papers – although there is nothing wrong with that.
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
@ Today -
I’m not hostile – I’m jubilant and you should be too.
You asked “what now” and “what does American become.” But you missed the point – American has already become something. It is a place that finally embraces all that is good in the much maligned ideology of socialism. Finally we have the strength to FORCE people to act the way that our Government knows they should. We can finally put aside the selfishness, ideology, and cruelty of free market capitalism and Middle Class America. We can finally MAKE YOU share the wealth. We’re BOTH Nelson Mandela and Jay Z (who just called it the way it is). Faux “civility” is as insincere as faux capitalism.
So it’s not “what’s now”, baby, ’cause we’re in the here and it is now.
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Except one little thing. Turns out that fruit fly research is actually central to scientific understanding of many diseases and models that provide the basis for medical treatments and cures – “specifically including autism.”
Today, the reason that fruit flies are used for such studies is that their evolutionary cycle is short and simplistic which allows for relatively quick cause and effect assessments of specific treatments. Mammals are too complex genetically and therefore can’t provide such “real time” results.
Nonetheless, that’s all beside the point, Palin is a dangerously ambitious airhead and that’s why conservatives with an intellect and conscience are publicly deserting the McCain campaign.
Posted by: Bob | October 25, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Voter2Be – I think you said it better than I could. I will be the recipient of the wealth by the way. Your point about Faux civility is going to come back. We are not going to get either of those words if you persist on being the victim. How would you re-act if Obama was losing?
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
just, yet another, anti mccain headline. imagine that. thanks for choosing the president media!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: tim | October 25, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
The end game is on. All the fair minded decent and patriotic Republicans are streaming to Obama. Better to be on the right side with the winner than the loosing side of McCain Palin.
Posted by: gjkotw01 | October 25, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
whatever happened to the saying “people dont vote for the vice president”? why do all you liberals talk about is sarah palin???!!! obama could have picked big bird for a running mate, and this cult would have still followed him. this country is screwed.
Posted by: tim | October 25, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Bob – no more. Please look at the research. You should not be defending fruit fly research that can be done on your kitchen table. We should be funding research that cures diseases. Even fish are a better target for genetic research. Look at what is gong on at Huntsman Cancer Institute.
Pick on some other part of Palin. Fruit flies are not a good point. Jay Z has dediated his song to her. That is a more reasonable argument.
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Bob – I should not have said “no more”. I should have said, I give up. I do not want to argue science with you.
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Looks as though Charles put country first. Good on him. As a lifelong Republican and a retired Navy Chief, I have supported John McCain my entire adult life. It is time to go home John. Obama/Biden ’08.
Posted by: Old Republican | October 25, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
What are they reading and hearing? That Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States. It’s inevitable. It’s his election to lose. What proof does the media offer? Public opinion polls that supposedly show Obama “winning” the race.
This is the “narrative” that the mainstream media has been imposing on this year’s presidential campaign almost from the start. Remember how quickly the MSM jumped off the Hillary Clinton bandwagon and onto Obama’s? Remember how annoyed and angry they became as Hillary refused to concede the nomination? The MSM decided that electing the nation’s first black, socialist, anti-American president was politically and historically more important (and, for them, more exciting) than electing the nation’s first female, socialist, patriotic president. And they are doing everything they can to achieve this goal.
Well, there is another story out there that the MSM refuses to address. A huge story. One that could, and I think will, significantly affect the outcome of this race. I’m referring to the widespread phenomenon of registered Democrats openly supporting John McCain. There are numerous “Democrats for McCain” type organizations. There are numerous websites and blogs written by Democrats touting McCain’s candidacy. There are pro-McCain grassroots efforts being led by Democrats. And we all know friends or relatives who are Democrats, who voted for John Kerry in 2004, and who are no fans of President Bush – but who are going to vote for John McCain this year.
Yet, surprise surprise, the mainstream media is not talking about these voters, not talking about the real rift that is occurring within the ranks of the Democratic Party. Needless to say, if a similar rift were occurring in the Republican Party, it would be treated as the major story that it is. (Indeed, as such stories about the political fault lines in the Republican Party have been treated in the recent past.)
Who are these pro-McCain Democratic voters? They overwhelmingly tend to be former Hillary supporters. Perhaps the most well-known of these voters are the “PUMAs” These are Hillary supporters who are adamantly opposed to Obama. Let’s not forget that during the Democratic primaries – real elections, not polls – Hillary crushed Obama among white working-class and middle-class voters in such key states as Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. If a meaningful number of these voters end up voting for McCain, as I predict they will, then Obama’s smooth road to the White House is going to run smack into a brick wall.
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | October 25, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
The bottom line is that Governor Palin has more experience than Barack Obama. Obama has only been in the US Senate 3 years and he has spent most of that time running for President or voting “present.” The pro-Obama media and their cohorts keep smearing Governor Palin on a daily basis like they did to Hillary. Moreover, as Joe Biden and Hillary said, Obama is not ready to be President. Therefore, Obama and his cronies keep smearing Governor Palin to distract the American people from the fact that Obama is the one who lacks experience.
Posted by: Doreen | October 25, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Today asks how I would react if Obama were losing. The answer is I’d act exactly the way I did during the primaries — I joined the Obama campaign when he was “losing” and worked hard to help him beat the “inevitable” candidacy of Sen. Clinton. I’ve learned a few things about my Party, about sincerity, and about what candidates say in public vs. what the “game plan” is for the day after the inauguration.
I’m glad you’ll be receiving some of the wealth. And you’ll be contributing too. It’s a net gain for me also.
Well, maybe I’d do one thing different if Obama were losing today — I’d work harder. It’s time to end the American lie and conform our politics, economics and lifestyle to what’s righteous — SPREAD THE WEALTH.
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
tim: Sorry, wrong thing to say. If McCain were elected president, I would be waking up every morning wondering if John did.
Posted by: Old Republican | October 25, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
It’s no wonder that a growing number of Republicans with a shred of conscience are voting for Obama. When Sarah Palin can’t call anti-abortionist killers domestic terrorists, you have a vice-presidential candidate who is indeed a true supporter of domestic terrorism and anti-American activities.
Posted by: Vietnam Vet | October 25, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Voter2Be says “SPREAD THE WEALTH!”
I do not really feel all that great about selling my vote from a crummy $500 tax rebate. I know it was the greatest pander of all times – telling America that 95% of the people will be getting a check. And we all know that people who have succeeded and made a bundle are all more evil than terrorists.
I think we should all hold out for a car or some other trophy!
Posted by: today | October 25, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Now people want to wish bodily harm to Jay Z because he exercised his right to free political speach? At least he has been princpled and true to himself. His song is sincere and as heartfelt as the day is long.
Charles Fried, Colin Powell, Peggy Noonan, and the whole bunch of Obama Repubs can learn a thing or two even from the crass lyrics. While they are finally doing the “right thing”, do you really think they are doing it out of principle? Do you think liberals can trust the likes of Fried, Powell or Noonan? They aren’t putting “Country First” — they’re “going with the now deluge-like flow. We’ll take their vote today. We’ll take their wealth and country clubs tomorrow!!
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
This is the biggest defection of conservative stalwarts from the Republican ticket in history. How I admire them. They see the clear and preset danger McCain/Palin represents and have acted accordingly. THESE are the people who will resurrect the GOP after the election and restore it to the great party it once was.
Posted by: bardon88 | October 25, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
There is no comparing the campaigns these to candidates have run!!
Posted by: Charity begins at home | October 25, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
@Today – you just don’t get it! SPREAD THE WEALTH is about more people having less. Be happy with your $500. Next year it’ll be less –
Posted by: Voter2Be | October 25, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Wow Another Republican on Board the Obama Express to the White House!
Posted by: Angie | October 25, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
VietNam Vet: I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m not sure what you said.
Posted by: Old Republican | October 25, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
bardon 88: I hope so. As a lifelong Republican, it bothers me to vote Democrat for the good of the country.
Posted by: Old Republican | October 25, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Old Republican: Sara Palin won’t condemn American murderers and arsonists as being domestic terrorists. These anti-abortion domestic terrorists openly proclaim their objectives as murder.
Posted by: Vietnam Vet | October 25, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Doreen said :The bottom line is that Governor Palin has more experience than Barack Obama. Obama has only been in the US Senate 3 years and he has spent most of that time running for President or voting “present.” The pro-Obama media and their cohorts keep smearing Governor Palin on a daily basis like they did to Hillary. Moreover, as Joe Biden and Hillary said, Obama is not ready to be President. Therefore, Obama and his cronies keep smearing Governor Palin to distract the American people from the fact that Obama is the one who lacks experience.
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well said, Doreen. All the media are bias and also sexists. They don’t want to see a woman rise above this high.
Posted by: Woman for VP | October 25, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Woman for VP: as Colin Powell said, judgement is more important than experience. And McCain has demonstrated very poor judgement in picking Sara Palin as his running mate. McCain also demonstrated poor judgement in the so-called “suspension” of his campaign. His endorsement of robo-calls by the same people who attacked him is also a sign of poor judgement.
Posted by: Vietnam Vet | October 25, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Sara Palin’s associations include the Alaska Independence Party. AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American,” reads a Vogler quote on AIP’s current website, “I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” According to Vogler, AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, “should be an independent nation.” Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad.
While retaining her Republican registration, Palin attended the AIP’s 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP’s 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s 2008 convention.
Posted by: Vietnam Vet | October 25, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
VietNam Vet: I think we are on the same side. I believe that abortion is a horrific thing. But I also believe that rape, incest and the life of the mother is an important consideration. As a man, how can I tell a woman what she can or cannot do.
Posted by: Old Republican | October 25, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Old Republican: I try to stay away from sides. I’m an independent. In my opinion, both the Democrats and the Republicans have ruined this country, although on balance I’d have to say Republicans have been worse. I think it is unAmerican to tear down other people just because they belong to a different political party or disagree with you.
Posted by: Vietnam Vet | October 25, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
VietNam Vet: 100% agreement on this end.
I applaud your service to your country.
Posted by: Old Republican | October 25, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Old Republican: Thanks. I volunteered believing I was going to defend my country against communism and helping to spread democracy. Didn’t take more than a few days over there to figure out that wasn’t the case. Anyway, I learned to pay attention to reality, which is why I have great difficulty with McCain/Palin. Not that I am any fan of Obama, but at least he’s not smearing his opponents and avoiding the issues.
Posted by: Vietnam Vet | October 25, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
VietNam Vet: When John McCain did’nt come back to the USS Oriskany in September 1967, I was standing in the blood donor line for those that did. It did’nt change anything. A lot of guys came back shot to pieces.
When you were there, it was’nt a very popular thing to do. I think we felt better for it though. We did our part. It was hard at the time. No one can take that away from us.
I don’t care if you are an independant, Democrat or Republican. If you don’t vote, all the stuff we fought for and others died for is wasted.
Posted by: Old Republican | October 25, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
VietNam Vet: Nice chatting with you. I wish the best for you.
Posted by: Old Republican | October 25, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
“Thank God she won’t need to be ready on Day One.”
Joe Lieberman on Sarah Palin
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | October 25, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Hey Jake,
This article is a prime example of the “MEDIA BIAS” article you wrote on Oct.25…………………but like I said it seems to make absolutely no difference to the liberal media is they are viewed as biased……they could’nt give a flip if mainstream Americans have lost all confidence in them……..
this is sad…………
Posted by: equalityrpt | October 25, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Glad to see another person endorsing the better candidate
Posted by: WeSupportObama | October 26, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Thanks for coming aboard Mr. Fried
Posted by: Tim | October 26, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm