Rove Cautions: Polls Can Be Wrong

Can I ask a question? Who the hell cares what Karl Rove has to say about anything?

The Ghost of Bushmas Past, dragging his chains …

Rove should be behind bars not talking about polls!

Rove’s own electoral map was updated today, giving Obama an even bigger leas. On his site, Rove writes today:
“National polls have started to show the presidential race tightening, but 66 state polls released so far this week haven’t captured any significant movement toward John McCain. In fact, since Sunday, Nevada (5 EV) has flipped from toss-up to Obama, giving him 311 electoral votes to McCain’s 157, with 70 as a toss-up.”
In short, Rove is giving Obama a lot more electoral votes than the MSM dares to.

Mccain will win the electoral college and Obama will win the popular vote and Mccain will be president your savior Obama has a one and done shot at the presidency

SOME POLLS CAN BE WRONG, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets see what Zogby does at midnight after polling is done after Obama infomercial.
My feeling is Zogby padded last nights polls, so when tonights come out he’ll show a one point gain and say it wasn’t affective.

mccain must win if unless u want unemployment at 12% inflation at 20%.thats what happened when carter was president and reagan saved america .obam will cause america to go in a depression and we will end up like the 1930′s .this mess we are in now is because the democrats forced the banks to give free money to people who couldnt afford it.and if obama wins he will destroy the economy .all u obama lovers remember u were warned .vote mccain

I SINCERELY DO BELIEVE MANY OF THE POLLS ARE DOCTORED TO FAVOR OBAMA.
RELENTLESS BAD NEWS ABOUT MCCAIN AND PALIN BOOSTS OBAMA.
WHO IS DOING THE POLLS..
YOUNG EDUCATED OBAMAMANIACS.
I CHECKED INTO WHO ACTUALLY DOES THESE POLLS.. MATHEMATICIANS, SOCIAL SCIENTIST.. MOST ARE LIBERALS. YOUNG MALES..

JG
I believe you will be amazed at the size of Obama’s election night victory

TJ the Clintonite
absoultely somethings wrong with this picture and a man who says he doesnt pamnder is now sauying that his would bee a clinton administration what a joke and rahm as cheif of state isnt he like the political boss of chicago… things are very unseemly and while Obama wont be the end of the world its going to be painful at best!

How many states are the Republicans are planning to steal???

blue
the only way you can have an indication about how election night will go is if you have improper access to polling results and what are you going to do if he loses or they actually recount OHIO like they were supposed to do in 2004 etc if Obama loses NH it will be a 269-269 tie but you people are just amateurs so why would we expect you to be anywhere near professional in electioneering

at any rate all you Obama idealists he will be one term and out if that he is the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century that is the gods truth you cant dispute it

I think Obama is nervous.
If he is so far ahead in the polls, he would not spending millions on infomercials.
I think Obama realises his sport is weak outside his favourite groups African Americans and young voters.

Zogby 30 Oct 2008
50.2 Obama
43.3 McCain

HA. Take a look at the newest CBS Poll. Percentage of McCain supporters who are excited about the election? 505? 25%? Try 9%.
And when is it that we get the correction/apology about the lies from Haaretz?

Mickey Mouse said he just “Got Paid” !

Rove was Bush voice, I could care less about what Rove says or what he thinks. He has no moral’s.

Be warn!!!!!
Rove is getting ready to steal the election for McCain!!!

Rove needs our prayer’s, because his soul is going straigt to hell.

He’s playing this story to try and limit their losses. Faux news is on board too with their phony poll numbers released today showing the race closing and now only a 2% difference nationwide. They keep up their hopes more of them will vote and maybe win a couple of races that really are still close.

If you are really a democrat and voting for you need your head examined. Jg and anyone else you have got to be kidding. Obama has both Hillary and Bill have said is the man now.

Dead People Voting Throughout Florida, Homeless able to use their park bench as a Home address for Voting. If you think Obama’s corrupt past is not enough, maybe these recent headlines will change your mind.
Is this the “change” we want.
Media, you have a responsibility to report this. Help us.
Democrat who sees the frightening truth.
McCain-Palin 08 – hoping for an honest democrat in 2012

Virginia
Dont worry the rest of us are NOT afraid, We will make the right choice and vote Obama!
We will make it to the polls and we will make sure Obama is President!
Obama 08

Mr. Rove, also, if I recall correctly, predicted this election would end in a landslide, regardless of the winner, due to the political climate. I agree with that sentiment. In my opinion voters are going to break en masse one way or another on election day.
Regarding Sen. Obama’s large campaign war chest not giving him a huge and dramatic lead during the primary or the general campaign…$$ don’t get you everything but “face time” is worth (and costs) a lot and paid campaign staffers are also a valued asset in addition to volunteers. I thought that was common knowledge, especially when a candidate has been a de facto dark horse candidate from the outset. That fact, it never ceases to amaze me, is frequently and conveniently forgotten by many. Recall, in the beginning Sen. Obama wasn’t given a snowball’s chance in hades of winning *anywhere*!!!
One final point. I am an American who happens to be “black” or African-American as some like to say. I have never voted for a candidate for the presidency based on race, gender, ethnicity, etc, and never will. I am sick of the carping and whining about African-Americans planning on voting, in large numbers for Sen. Obama, based on some single minded notion that “he’s black so I’m voting for him.” That is an intellectually dishonest position based on that community’s use of the franchise. If that argument were to hold there wouldn’t have been any voting since the franchise was extended and guaranteed.
When a group of people votes for interests it’s just that. There have been other ‘black’ candidates. Even if some had been truly viable I can tell you I wouldn’t have voted for them, except Shirley Chisolm (I was too young then). African-Americans are a sophisticated electorate and it is often overlooked my particular demographic suffered horrific resistance to being accorded the franchise. I think at this point we know what we’re doing, thank you very much. The implication that we are sheep or ignorant or generally ‘racist’ is laughable to me.
Personally, I hope people can find a way to stop implying that African-Americans (AAs) are somehow not being intellectually honest or not examining the candidacies, stops. It is very disheartening to think we have not evolved beyond making that type of implication. Specifically, the sub-text is that AAs are only _thinking_ if they are voting in large numbers for other than an AA candidate for the presidency. That sickens me. :( Voting blocks are voting blocks, people make choices. What’s the problem?

- voting machine fraud -
A county clerk in Colorado has finally done the right thing for the voters by removing a touch-screen voting machine from service, and quarantining it, after it was discovered to be flipping votes from one candidate to another.
The failed machine in this case was a Diebold Accu-Vote, a frequent flipper.
Long is to be lauded for being the first election official in the country so far during the general election (that we’re aware of) to have taken the correct action in such a vote-flipping case.

Echoing Mila, don’t forget that in 2006 a characteristically arrogant Karl Rove, asserting that only he had “THE math,” claimed that the polls predicting huge GOP Congressional losses were wrong.
If Gore had won Florida in 2000, Rove would have gone down in history as a goat after that election, having squandered precious campaign resources in New Jersey and California. But because Bush eked out a victory, he is regarded as a genius by the press to this day.

Obama is running a much better campain,I like his tax cuts,his policies on energy,his health care plan, is the same as Hillary’s, education and he is a very good soeaker, a real good salesman.But im not sold on Obama, himself.20 years in a church, with Michelle and his children , that teaches black liberation theology, hatred, And all his associations with terrorists, Ayers, Wright, Rezco, Farrakhan, Pelosi,and America haters, How he try to explain or cover things up, with the big help of the msm.And if we ask any Questions, we are racist, ignorant, stupid , etc. we should not aks any question, its old story, get beyond it and so on. I dont like the way he won the primaries, the way he treated Hillary, the way he played with the people in Florida,ACORN.Is he realy a christian, or a muslim, why he campained for his terrorist muslim cousin Odinga in Kenya, is he an American citizen, was he born in Kenya? Why should we trust this guy, and vote for him to be the president of the United States of America? Is he some kind of new Messiah, like Hittler was in Germany, everybody loved him to at that time , he was like a savior to the people. This Obama cult is some kind of a sickness, or a plague of the minds of the messes, and was planned and enginered?I have no trust in Obama.

Jack I’m sure you saw the debate between McCain and Obama, in which Obama brought up William Ayers, detailed the board they sat on together – and basically opened it up to McCain to ‘bring it on’.
What was McCain’s response? McCain basically started mumbling into his shirt about how people deserve to know. McCain had nothing to bring on. No additional evidence, no information.
Obama encouraged him to bring it out front – and McCain had nothing.
The next day McCain was back badmouthing Obama for hanging around with terrorists. Pathetic.
You’ll find it’s the same with most of the other items you list. There is nothing much there. Most of it is innuendo like the phrase “palling around with terrorists” – that is complete nonsense, and the phrase was designed to make you afraid and not trust him.

McCain and his bunch of
half wits see their time running
out ….. oh please do not
think about 2012 the late night
shows will have a fit with it..
time to through the Bums OUT !

If McCain wins, the polls will be discredited forever. Or at least they should be. But then people still pay attention to the weathermen on TV. (the real ones, not the Bill Ayers type)

In 2004 the RCP average called the election to within a point. Using a tight LV screen McCain is down further than Kerry was (3-5). Using an expanded LV screen McCain is way down (7+).
Neither method looks good for him.

“A former Republican Secretary of State and one of John McCain’s most prominent supporters offered a stunningly frank and remarkably bleak assessment of Sarah Palin’s capacity to handle the presidency should such a scenario arise.
Lawrence Eagleburger, who served as Secretary of State under George H.W. Bush and whose endorsement is often trumpeted by McCain, said on Thursday that the Alaska governor is not only unprepared to take over the job on a moment’s notice but, even after some time in office, would only amount to an “adequate” commander in chief.”
Pretty bad when your own side is assessing your VP candidate as this poor.

Palin seems like a female George Bush, with the winks, the folksy talk and the ‘down home’ personality. And just as vacant and calculating.

Palin a female George Bush . ..folksy image, shallow knowledge and ambitious.

Palin 2008….OH PAAAAHHHHHLEEZE!!!! say it isnt so…There is NO hope for this Country if Palin is given a SERIOUS look for 2012 or EVER!
Go back to Alaskaaaa and face the impending impeachment from the People of Alaskaaaa.
Obama/Biden 2008!!!!

Palin really is a female version of George Bush
* the country accent in the talkin’
* the folksy image
* the difficulty she has stringing together a complete sentence if its not scripted for her.
* the shallow breadth of world knowledge
* the winks
* the ‘you betcha’ approach – ‘we gonna smoke him out’
* ambitious
* inarticulate
* calculating (see troopergate)
* vindictive (see troopergate)

Palin really is a female version of George Bush
* the country accent in the talkin’
* the folksy image
* the difficulty she has stringing together a complete sentence if its not scripted for her.
* the shallow breadth of world knowledge
* the winks
* the ‘you betcha’ approach – ‘we gonna smoke him out’
* ambitious
* inarticulate
*she is also calculating (troopergate) and vindictive (troopergate)

McCain’s best campaign line: “You’re all Joe the Plumber”. This seems like an acknowledgement that his base comes from people who refuse to pay taxes, cheat the state out of licensing fees and lies to anybody who will listen about their income. Gotta love ‘em!
Obama/Biden 08!

When analyzing the polls, look at the state polls for the “competitive” states- PA, FL, OH, VA, MO, NC, NH, IA, IN, CO, NV, NM, GA, MT, ND . If Obama is at 50% on more in any state, he wins that state. If not I’ll give that state to McCain. Based on the current averages, Obama is heading for 300+ electoral votes even if McCain closes the popular vote by running up the margins in states like TX,OK, LA or by closing the gap in NY and CA (which he won’t win).

We know the cost of the Iraq was is something like $8Billion a month.
Does anybody know how much per month the war in Afghanistan Obama is proposing is going to cost?

Very Ironic! Fairness is communism and unfairness is great to this country. Welcome to America! The worst part is that the have nots are the noisy one who always the victim of the unfairness. Dive my friend to the doomsday.

Its hard to find a more revered and loved American than Andy Griffith. When I think of a true American I think of him. Andy Griffith stands for truth and wisdom, and has been considered a faithful veteran, and someone who would never support communism. Andy grew up when the world was under attack by nationalism, and then he was a part of our national fight against communism. Often during his show, The Andy Griffith Show he would teach us lessons on right and wrong, and what the true American way is. His son in the show, famed director Ron Howard is also considered an American icon, and someone you can trust to do the right thing for America. Ron and Andy have put their support behind Barack Obama for President, because they believe he represents the BEST for America. They would NEVER support someone who didnt love this country as much as they do, nor would they support someone who was a threat to us all. Lets all be like Andy Griffith and vote for Barack Obama! Lets make America the America that Andy Griffith believes in! Obama/Biden, as American as apple pie!

Posted by: Annonymous | Oct 31, 2008 4:09:01 AM
There’s also a boot called “1984″. That’s where the word “doublespeak” comes from. Alliviating the middle class tax = bad, giving more breaks to the rich = good, giving hope and calling for a united America = bad, sitting in a radio program with a right-wing terrorist of the Nixon years = good. You follow? Every time I hear Palin or Rush it reminds me of a Nazi documentary. By the way, there is also a book called “The Fourth Reich”. If you’re going to be influenced by books, read both sides — as Paul said in the Bible” “Listen to all, retain the good.”

I’m curious as to whether any of you who choose to spew bile back and forth at each other really care about anything other than thinking you’re right? For an election that both candidates have geared toward change, it’s pretty much the same ol’ partisan crap. Admittedly I probably have my own bias since I’m registered (I) and have voted on both sides. But I believe in a balance of power and I don’t think any one party should be in control of all branches. The Republicans screwed it up when they had the monopoly and the Dems will do the same. We all have ideas on what would make the country most successful. Calling the other side idiots, racists, elitists, rednecks, or whatever other names you can come up with doesn’t progress the dialogue. It’s a shame how divided our country has become, but for all the rhetoric of change and coming together, anyone watching can see that both sides are doing everything possible to keep them apart so they have a base to secure.
Just vote for the issues you believe in people. Whoever wins, wins. Support whoever it is and do your part to make America great.

Dave, I meant Jimmy Carter, not Clinton.

In the final days of the campaign, John McCain needs to emphasize that Barack Obama would kill millions of jobs

Steave Cuozzo writes, “In the final days of the campaign, John McCain needs to emphasize that Barack Obama would kill millions of jobs.”
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That’s funny. McCain can see Obama killing millions of jobs but somehow failed to predict our current economic crisis. The fact that some of you are so easily swayed tickles me.

Whatever shift McCain is making has worked in the last week. Most battlegrounds are back to a dead heat and there is a very good possibility that McCain will pull off the upset. Days to go, not hours…

The NY POST, WASHINGTON TIMES and DALLAS MORNING NEWS have all been told to vamoose by Sunday to make room for network bigwigs — and possibly for the inclusion of reporters from two black magazines, ESSENCE and JET, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.”
Tell you friends and neighbors.

Colorado 50.8 44.3 Obama +6.5
Nevada 50.3 43.3 Obama +7.0
Virginia 51.0 44.5 Obama +6.5
Ohio 49.2 43.4 Obama +5.8
Yes We Can
Obama 08

Jake – remember Rove’s fall 2006 interview with NPR’s Robert Siegel where he said everyone else had math but he had “THE MATH” — he sees all the polls, not just some like the media and that Republicans would hold on? Just sayin’…

Obama and his partners ACORN and the MSM
are leading in the polls.
What a surprise.

jcarob
McCain has no one to blame but him and his campaign. If he ran a real one not one based on lies and half truths.. If he spent th time talking about the issues not trying to smear Obama with lies he would have got better coverage!
If he made his own policies and not ran on Bush’s… He may be doing better!

geevil,
what is wrong with ESSENCE and JET?

the ultimate revenge?
Yes, we all want to elect mccain and take a chance on him continuing to tank this country.
not enough people out of work yet.
not enough people losing their homes yet.
not enough soldiers dead yet.
yeah, lets elect mccain-
we’ll show them-
we will teach obama a lesson,
it is not enough that bush and mccain will have the middle class and working people on the streets looking for scraps.
we will not be satisfied until we are all fighting over the scraps.
revenge is sweet

The single, biggest mistake McCain made was aligning himself w/ Obama and Bush on the $700B bailout bill.

marylou
Thats OK because Im a former Republican who is voting for Obama Im sure for everyone of you there is at last one or two of me…
McCain and Palin have offered nothing new just more of the same…
Im sure Obama will win in a landslide..
I even think that in 2012 you and your friends will be voting for Obama!
Sam.
The bradley effect will NOT have any sway this election African Americans and Young people will cancel it out…
Obama 08

When Karl Rove starts talking AGAIN about how the polls might not reflect what actually happens.
IT IS TIME FOR ALL ALL TO BE AFRAID!
If we have learned anything in the past 8 years, it is that Republicans care nothing about Democracy and everything about power and wealth!

Planet Earth to Geevil -
1) McCain banned columnists from the NY Times and Time magazine from his plane and refused to speak to CNN because of the grilling one of his hacks received from one of its reporters.
Given your “logic,” this makes McCain a “wannabe dictator, too.
2) And the problem with with Essence and Jet is?

John McCain has been acting erratically ever since he selected Palin for his running mate. When the economy failed his behavior became bizarre. Stresses on any president in the next few years are going to be extreme . They will be fatal for someone in McCain’s health and mental state. When he steps down we will then inherit his Palin fiasco.
Colin Powell has recognized these facts and has endorsed Obama as being a cool-headed and logical leader who is more fit for the presidency.
Kipling said it best:
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream–and not make dreams your master,
If you can think–and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
He was talking about men like Obama.

2) And the problem with with Essence and Jet is?
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Oct 31, 2008 11:26:23 AM
* The problem w/ essence and jet is because they are for black people. White people don’t read it~> and this makes them mad.

And I can see SOME women feeling the same way. Obviously, more Hillary women than not will sway Obama’s way, but you can’t discount that many will go to McCain-Palin because there’s a woman running on the ticket too. And McCain – appears on the surface at least – to be the more boring, but safer, choice.
Posted by: Dear Leader Chairman Maubama | Oct 31, 2008 11:11:11
** Most women will vote for Obama. You will see on November 4th. Women are mad that McCain picked such a lame woman for this VP choice.

Is this the “change” we want.
Media, you have a responsibility to report this. Help us.
Democrat who sees the frightening truth.
McCain-Palin 08 – hoping for an honest democrat in 2012
Posted by: Virginia | Oct 31, 2008 12:57:08 AM
* This guy is mad too that VA isn’t listening to the BIAS and BULL! (Campbell Brown is a republican by the way)
Secondly, the media doesn’t have a responsibility to hold your hand through this election. Plus you’re probably saying this because McCain is losing. Grow up! Research on your own and then form your OWN opinion. It’s called being an adult.
personally I don’t think any republicans deserve a public office at this point; a lot of Americans feel the same way too! (thank God) Why we keep putting power into corrupt hands (Stevens, Palin, Bush) I will never know. But I’m glad the American people are waking up and realizing that if we stick w/ these conservative losers, we will never be anywhere! Plus look at the literature the RNC of VA is sending out.. God will punish them accordingly.
Thanks but no thanks GOP I”m not getting on your bridge to nowhere!
Yes we can
Yes we are
Yes we will
On November 5th.. yes we did!
Obama/Biden 2008

If it thinks like a republican and talks like a republican and votes like a republican then it sure as hell is no democrat. NO WAY NO HOW NO MCCAIN.

JG
re” more traditional democrats horrified at the way the primary process unfolded that will simply vote for mccain and not think twice about it..”
there’s no doubt that there will be some ‘traditional democrats’ (whatever that is) that may vote for McCain….. but……
equally there are many Republicans who can not bring themselves to vote for a mcCain/Palin ticket…. These ‘moderate’ Republicans can’t believe that McCain picked Palin , are repulsed by the negativity of his campaign and are disillusioned by the outgoing republican Bush administration.
We will all know what’s up on Nov. 4th.