Sarah Palin, Debate Champ
The "expectations game" is a Twilight Zone, because if you praise a Republican you will then be accused of bias by the Republicans, and vice versa.
But that said, it is a mistake to think that the Gov. Sarah Palin who you’ve seen in recent interviews is the one who will show up for the debate tomorrow night.
As Kate Snow nicely illustrated on Good Morning America this morning, Palin was quite impressive in her 2006 gubernatorial performances.
The liberal Huffington Post likewise finds six examples of Palin responses from those debates that show her to be pretty on the ball — sharp, concise, smart.
The Los Angeles Times today takes a look at Palin’s debate skills, quoting Anchorage Daily News editor/debate panelist Larry Persily testifying that Palin flummoxed her rivals "like Muhammad Ali dancing around the ring."
Likewise, the Wall Street Journal reports that Alaska public-radio reporter/debate moderator Libby Casey recalls Palin in the 2006 debates as "positive,
confident and upbeat."
Democrats, seeking to set expectations high for Palin and low for Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., are emailing stories like those around.
But beyond the expectations game, Palin’s debate skills happen to be proven.
Biden too, of course can be quite able, and has far more experience in the kinds of national and international issues that have seemed to stymie Palin on occasion. (As opposed to the Wasilla and Alaska issues she handled quite well in her debates.)
It should prove quite interesting.
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After behaving like a clueless Barbie doll in the interviews, Palin will no longer be able to fool critical voters by performing well in this single debate.
Posted by: greta | October 1, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
I think Palin will do better then expected but Biden will clearly come out on top.
My advice to Biden is to only attack McCain. Palin does enough talking herself to damage herself. Shoot it straight to the hip of McCain on taxes, health care, Iraq, Afganistan, Russia, Iran etc
If Biden follows this suit, it’s a clear win and this big MO the Obama/Biden ticket has will fly on to election day.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 1, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
It will be interesting.
As a stage performer, I can say that people are not always ‘on’ although that is a trait politicians try to acquire. The set and setting bring out the talent. Are you “THE JAKE TAPPER” in the subway, or are you “Jake”?
I suspect that is part of what we are seeing, part is trying to be genuine, and another part is there is active bias in some of the interviewer’s techniques, and another is she is keeping it toned down until the debate to lower expectations. That seems to be working.
I’d like to see you interview her. You’re tough but usually fair. You are in the tank for Obama, but there is a scintilla of objective journalist in you Tapper, and my guess is the same set and setting effect would kick in and keep it professional.
Posted by: len | October 1, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
We’ll see a drilled if not brainwashed Palin doll versus the spontaneous and knowledgeable Biden.
The choice couldn’t be easier, since this is no Miss Washington contest.
Posted by: mercy | October 1, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Crazy Joe is a master! Best strip bar lounge comic in the debate. Let’s see if he takes his shoes off to insert his mouth.
Why didn’t Gwen Ifill recuse herself as moderator. Isn’t there any code of ethics amongst journalists?
Posted by: Captain America | October 1, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Biden has to be careful here because he already has the looks, mannerisms and sleaze factor of a used car salesman. Then there is that little gaffe-a-matic problem of his. I think Palin will be just fine against the pride of the county of delaware.
Posted by: pistolero | October 1, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
From the Christian Science Monitor:
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Palin is a master of the nonanswer. She can turn a 60-second response to a query about her specific solutions to healthcare challenges into a folksy story about how she’s met people on the campaign trail who face healthcare challenges. All without uttering a word about her public-policy solutions to healthcare challenges.
In one debate, a moderator asked the candidates to name a bill the legislature had recently passed that we didn’t like. I named one. Democratic candidate Tony Knowles named one. But Sarah Palin instead used her allotted time to criticize the incumbent governor, Frank Murkowski. Asked to name a bill we did like, the same pattern emerged: Palin didn’t name a bill.
And when she does answer the actual question asked, she has a canny ability to connect with the audience on a personal level. For example, asked to name a major issue that had been ignored during the campaign, I discussed the health of local communities, Mr. Knowles talked about affordable healthcare, and Palin talked about … the need to protect hunting and fishing rights.
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Posted by: sp | October 1, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
The stakes are higher for this debate than a normal VP debate. The reason is that the McCain campaign has kept the Governor in a bubble. Her brief times outside that bubble have not been pretty. Rest assured she will score marks on looking at the camera, as she has a background in local news. I hope Americans listen to the specifics she provides and her analytical skills.
Posted by: Sarah Who? | October 1, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Palin is a Barracuda and a Pitball. She can take care of her self.
Posted by: SARAH | October 1, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
In her interviews with Couric, Palin never managed to finish a single sentence in a correct or sensible manner.
You don’t need a degree in Language Studies or Philosophy to know that an individual’s use of language reflects his of her intellectual capabilities most directly.
Palin cannot think clearly.
Which is a huge problem in any major and responsible job.
No wonder she never was able to make a career in journalism, for that would require an excellent control and use of language -
but she might become POTUS instead…
Posted by: kurt | October 1, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Palin has been coached for a month, she will probably do well, but stupid is forever, it will not matter how she does, everyone will just beign fooled…
Posted by: matt | October 1, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
I hope there is a question on clean coal for Crazy Joe.
Wonder how many contortions he will make on that one?
And, about those 3 partitions you spoke (and wrote about in the WSJ), Crazy Joe?
Posted by: Captain America | October 1, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Unless Palin announces that, suffering from post partem depression she had the Thetan’s removed after the birth of Trigg, the 27% who approve of Bush will still be rabidly wild about her. In the event she does make such an announcement McCain will blame “gotcha journalism.”
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
I want to hear specifics about McCain’s policies, not dancing around questions and charming stories about Alaskans. I’m sure she’ll make cracks about Senator Biden being around since she was in second grade.
Posted by: we'll see | October 1, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
In reality it doesn’t matter how Palin does, at least to the news media and pundits. The spin will be that she was awesome or that Gwen was biased or that Biden was sexist. There is no way Biden can win this debate.
Look how almost uniformly the media claimed that McCain won the debate last Friday, yet every poll and focus group had Obama on top; some polls with double digit wins.
I am afraid that the news media has been so beaten down by the Wing Nut Talk Radio crowd, that they can no longer be objective.
Thankfully, the public appears to be a little smarter and much more driven for change this year.
Posted by: steve | October 1, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Palin has been coached for a month, she will probably do well, but stupid is forever, it will not matter how she does, everyone will just be fooled…
Posted by: matt | October 1, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Somewhere a pundit of mixed metaphor ancestry will pronounce she did just fine. “She floated like a feather and stung like a box of chocolates.” Dissatisfied right wingers will accuse the pundit of using the Forrest Gump analogy to make fun of her pregnant daughter.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
It doesn’t matter how much “CRAMMING” Palin gets.
How can you pass the test when you haven’t taken the class? Oh, by the way, this debate won’t be on moose season and the mating process. This is on FOREIGN POLICY.
McCain and Circus better make sure they cram a parachute in her backback.
SHE WILL CRASH AND BURN. It’s not if, it’s WHEN during the debate.
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
An illustration of Palin’s misuse of language, from her most recent conversation with Couric:
PALIN: No, I don’t. I mean, I know that there–it’s obvious there’s some double-standards here, you know, in terms of what the media has been doing, but I think that’s more–I think more attributable to just the media elite, the Washington elite, not knowing who I am and just asking a whole lot of questions and not so much based on gender though, but based on just the fact that I’m not part of the Washington herd.”
Wow.
Posted by: kurt | October 1, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
go to the drudge report website for the article
check this out – the moderator to the vp debate has a book coming out called teh “age of obama”, gwwen ifil
could the debate comission had not found someone who appears non partisan – bring jim lehr back!
Posted by: sokadija | October 1, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
If she flubs one, how long will it take the Palinapologists to say that Gwen Ifill asked a trick question and that she is…well you…one of…you know…
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
sokadija, so what if gwwen ifil wrote a book, she will ask both people the same question, how is that biased?
Posted by: matt | October 1, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
How come ABC isn’t reporting the story about Gwen Ifill, VP Debate moderator, who has written a pro-Obama book and is clearly “in the tank for him”. The utter corruption of the leftist media is beyond belief.
Posted by: Ron | October 1, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago – about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct – the teacher said.
After conducting a college band and watching Palin deliver a commencement address to a small group of home-schooled students in June 1997, Wasilla resident Philip Munger said, he asked the young mayor about her religious beliefs.
Palin told him that “dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time,” Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said “she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks,” recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage.
Posted by: Miss Dinosaur | October 1, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Nice quote, Kurt. If whe had been part of the Washington herd she would have been culled long ago and put in the Quayle pen.
Posted by: Ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
The audience will see through bias, just the way they will see though BS.
Palin fans need to let their candidate speak and stop making excuses.
Posted by: we'll see | October 1, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
the praise she has been given regarding her debate skills has been regarding her mastery of the non-answer. Like her response to Couric when asked about he economy, by going on about health care. She will tell stories, provide anecdotes and smile, but she won’t give answers. she will deflect, diffuse, obfuscate and lie when it suits her. Now we find that she cannot, indeed, see Russia from her house. I’m sure that she meant that metaphorically, but has been delivering the line quite seriously.
Posted by: Danny | October 1, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Damn, Palin didn’t even have to flub one before they started in on Gwen.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
tony, ron, you must think the earth is flat too, this is getting funnier by the minute!!
Posted by: matt | October 1, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
What the media is missing here is that people trust Sarah Palin.
She may not know all of the answers and may not be good at keeping Couric at bay, but we trust her to get to the right answer.
Couric should be ashamed of herself. Couric has been through this wringer.
Posted by: lately | October 1, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
The audience will be looking for specifics from Palin, because her interviews have been very bad. In this case, the non-answers and put downs will not help the Governor.
Posted by: Substance | October 1, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Miss Dinosaur,
in a widely-circulated interview, Matt Damon said of Palin, “I need to know if she really think that dinosaurs were here 4000 years ago. I want to know that, I really do. Because she’s gonna have the nuclear codes.”
Let’s pray she’ll never have those.
Those who believe in the Last Day and think God is on their side, will be ready to lead the world into Armageddon.
THEY will be saved, the others will go to hell. Where they’ll have roasted dinosaurs for breakfast, no doubt.
Posted by: einstein | October 1, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Maybe Gwen Ifill should step aside from moderating the dabate and have a more impartial moderator – maybe Michelle Obama.
Posted by: jamescbuilder | October 1, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
We are not looking for details we are looking for substance from Palin. Substance she is in buckets. And she is the most experienced administrator.
Posted by: lately | October 1, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
I’m not looking for a gaffe from Sarah Palin, but I do expect her to answer the questions asked and not dance around them. I think most Americans will look for the same from her and Biden.
Posted by: Expect More | October 1, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Matt, Tony and Ron do not believe the earth is flat. They are concerned that because Gwen Ifill is, uh…you know..
someone who wrote a book…and is…well it might be about how the earth revolves around Obama or something and doesn’t convey the biblical admonotion against community organizing which destrouyed the institution of marriage and my 401K.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Gwen Ifill moderated the last VP debate. Now she’s in the tank. Stop making excuses before a question is even asked. Is Palin ready or not?
Posted by: Oh Brother | October 1, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Jake,
What I don’t understand is why no one has seemed to notice at least twice now when asked or making comments on abortion, Sarah Palin has used the word “choice.” She did it in the Couric interview as well as when making a comment earlier about being proud of her pregnant daughter’s “choice.”
Sarah Palin doesn’t believe that women should have a “choice” when it comes to abortion rights. Why won’t anyone call her out on it?
Posted by: Blue in Michigan | October 1, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
From Quinnipiac University poll:
FLORIDA: Obama 51, McCain 43
OHIO: Obama 50, McCain 42
PENNSYLVANIA: Obama 54, McCain 39
UP IN: CO, IA, MI, MN, NV, NM
WILL TAKE: NC, VA
The debates are just “technicalities”
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Which of these four people would you trust to watch your house or over a relative?
The economy is in shambles because we handed it over to people practicing liberation theology. Look at the people Obama surrounds himself with. Would you invite any of them to look over your town?
Posted by: lately | October 1, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Fox News just reported that PBS anchor, Gwen Ifill, who is going to be moderating the VP debate tomorrow night has just published a pro-Obama book. You can be sure she will ask Biden easy questions and Sarah Palin tough or trick questions. I think she should be disqualified and allow someone else to moderate the debate.
Posted by: Fran | October 1, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
I think Sarah Palin will be ready to debate but I also think if she tries to “dance” around questions the audience will notice. If the moderator is biased, the audience will notice. You folks trying to spin before the debate starts are showing how little faith you have in your candidate. We notice that too.
Posted by: Eyes and Ears | October 1, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Will she actually answer the questions asked? I think the bar is set pretty low for her.
Posted by: obamamama | October 1, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
lately, WHY would people trust Palin after her Bridge To Nowhere lies, her Troopergate scandal and obstruction of justice, her secretive use of private e-mails as a Governor, her BS about Alaska’s contribution to Ameriacn energy, her inability to answer basic questions about current political issues? How does all this invoke a feeling of TRUST?
And btw, I trust my own husband completely, and I love him dearly, but I honestly would never trust him to be (vice)President of this great, big and complex country, in this confusing and often dangerous world.
You gotta be pretty simple to confuse personal with political trust.
Posted by: megan | October 1, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
ricky….huh?!?!?
Posted by: matt | October 1, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Fran, I think the questions are identical for each candidate. Have you watched a debate before or just Fox News?
Posted by: Whatever | October 1, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Angela Davis for Moderator!
Why don’t we allow Cry Baby Hasselbeck from the view to moderate? Tears are bound to show.
GOOD FOR TV.
Cynics, is this the best you and Fox have left? The inevitable holds true:
From Quinnipiac University poll:
FLORIDA: Obama 51, McCain 43
OHIO: Obama 50, McCain 42
PENNSYLVANIA: Obama 54, McCain 39
UP IN: CO, IA, MI, MN, NV, NM
WILL TAKE: NC, VA
The debates are just “technicalities”
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Grampa Biden has had more coaching the past month for this debate than Palin could ever match. Fauxbama and Biden are worse than Bush.
Posted by: linda | October 1, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
I have to tell you guys… I was watching CNN last night and at one point in Alaska you can see Russia… LOLOLOLOL…. and yes, there is a little water between.. I could not stop laughing. On one side was Russia mountains and then a little water and then a very small town in Alaska. When I say small I think they said 20 people live there. Then there is nothing for miles. LOLOLOL OMG…..
Posted by: beck | October 1, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
I’d always thought that a poor performance by Palin would generate accusations that Senator Biden had been “sexist.” Now we can also look forward to accusations that Ifill is “biased” or “in the tank for Obama.”
Maybe Palin/McCain will do us all a favor and, after the requisite amount of self-righteous huffing and puffing, cancel the debate. Watching this woman make a fool of herself with Gibson and Couris has been excruciating.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | October 1, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Matt do not be confused by my attempt to correct you over simplification of the deeply held religious beliefs of others. Just because someone walks in the shoes of those who left footprints in dinosaur tracks is no reason to poke fun of them.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
“Which of these four people would you trust to watch your house or over a relative?”
I, as a mom, would NEVER trust Sarah Palin to watch over my baby girl.
She doesn’t even watch over her OWN baby, choosing power over family care.
Posted by: linda | October 1, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
I think they both will do well… The news media will probably call it a draw… after all you will have two-six-pack-joe’s going at it. LOLOL
Posted by: beck | October 1, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
No matter how she or Biden perform, no matter how fairly Gwen Ifill treats them, the Palin “handlers” will scream that she has been mistreated, the victim of sexism, etc. As a woman, I’m tired of the “sexism” too! Treat her like any candidate, for Pete’s sake. If she wants to be VP, she needs to handle a lot more than the press!!!
Posted by: obamamama | October 1, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Brooklyn Democrat they will not accuse Ifill of being in the tank with Obama just because she is…you know…how it is with those…peep…peep…pundits.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Oh, here it comes.
It’s going to be debate moderator Gwen Ifill’s fault if Sarah Palin flops.
If the moderator had been a male, then it would have been two against one — two men “ganging up” on Sarah Palin.
It’s time for Palin to put up or shut up.
Posted by: Blue in Michigan | October 1, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Sounds like the GOP is trying to make sure Ifill throws softballs to Palin.
Posted by: Bully the Press | October 1, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Grampa Biden doesn’t get much press, Hollywood, and all the democrat pimps are too busy building up slander on their threat, Palin. If they were honest, and they aren’t, we could have a ball with Bushbama, but they are afraid to attack a black person who mimics McCain and Bush all the way down the line.
Posted by: Linda | October 1, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
“Which of these four people would you trust to watch your house or over a relative?”
Posted by: obamamama | October 1, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
From Quinnipiac University poll:
FLORIDA: Obama 51, McCain 43
OHIO: Obama 50, McCain 42
PENNSYLVANIA: Obama 54, McCain 39
UP IN: CO, IA, MI, MN, NV, NM
WILL TAKE: NC, VA
The debates are just “technicalities”
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S A LOCK
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 1, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
The Republicans must be nervous to smear Ifill. She moderated the last VP debate, if she seemed biased towards the Democrats why was she approved by the McCain camp? They already have their excuse in case Palin looks as bad as she has in interviews.
Posted by: chicken little | October 1, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Doesn’t anyone here have an Enquiring mind and want to know? I for one want to know what Palin said when McCain told her that one of the requirements to be his VP was she was going to have to go down and meet his friend, Mr. Bono.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
I’m afraid the debate will become Miss or Mister Six Pack Joe contest. Who’s MOST in touch with Mr. and Mrs. Average?
well, WHO CARES? No politician will be able to tackle this country’s and this world’s issues, problems and possibilities by being in touch with the ordinary folks.
What we need is intelligence, strong thinking, clever acting, analytic powers, leadership, internationalism etc. and a lot more.
Bur ‘being in touch’ is populism and nothing else. It will bring us nowhere.
Posted by: brenda | October 1, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Make-Believe Maverick
Rolling Stone
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A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty
At Fort McNair, an army base located along the Potomac River in the nation’s capital, a chance reunion takes place one day between two former POWs. It’s the spring of 1974, and Navy commander John Sidney McCain III has returned home from the experience in Hanoi that, according to legend, transformed him from a callow and reckless youth into a serious man of patriotism and purpose. Walking along the grounds at Fort McNair, McCain runs into John Dramesi, an Air Force lieutenant colonel who was also imprisoned and tortured in Vietnam.
McCain is studying at the National War College, a prestigious graduate program he had to pull strings with the Secretary of the Navy to get into. Dramesi is enrolled, on his own merit, at the Industrial College of the Armed Forces in the building next door.
There’s a distance between the two men that belies their shared experience in North Vietnam — call it an honor gap. Like many American POWs, McCain broke down under torture and offered a “confession“ to his North Vietnamese captors. Dramesi, in contrast, attempted two daring escapes. For the second he was brutalized for a month with daily torture sessions that nearly killed him. His partner in the escape, Lt. Col. Ed Atterberry, didn’t survive the mistreatment. But Dramesi never said a disloyal word, and for his heroism was awarded two Air Force Crosses, one of the service’s highest distinctions. McCain would later hail him as “one of the toughest guys I’ve ever met.“
On the grounds between the two brick colleges, the chitchat between the scion of four-star admirals and the son of a prizefighter turns to their academic travels; both colleges sponsor a trip abroad for young officers to network with military and political leaders in a distant corner of the globe.
“I’m going to the Middle East,“ Dramesi says. “Turkey, Kuwait, Lebanon, Iran.“
“Why are you going to the Middle East?“ McCain asks, dismissively.
“It’s a place we’re probably going to have some problems,“ Dramesi says.
“Why? Where are you going to, John?“
“Oh, I’m going to Rio.“
“What the hell are you going to Rio for?“
McCain, a married father of three, shrugs.
“I got a better chance of getting laid.“
Dramesi, who went on to serve as chief war planner for U.S. Air Forces in Europe and commander of a wing of the Strategic Air Command, was not surprised. “McCain says his life changed while he was in Vietnam, and he is now a different man,“ Dramesi says today. “But he’s still the undisciplined, spoiled brat that he was when he went in.“
see Rolling Stone for full article
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Posted by: sp | October 1, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
In case you lose, blame the referee.
If you blame the referee, you must have lost already.
Posted by: hank | October 1, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Linda, you sond like Palin, let the adults do the talking, please!!!
Posted by: matt | October 1, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
“Which of these four people would you trust to watch your house or over a relative?” If I wanted to have the relative charged with everything under the sun for years after the events allegedly took place I would pick Palin.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Anybody out there believe that Sarah Palin is the answer to any of Americas problems?
Anybody believe she has the leadership to unite the country?
Who would trust Sarah Palin with their financial future and that of their children?
This debate is not about her looking so cute when she crinkles up her nose as she speaks.
Posted by: doug | October 1, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
I think McCain should have waited ’til after the debate to blame Ifill. The only ones buying this lame excuse now are Fox News viewers, who will vote for McCain anyway.
Posted by: too early | October 1, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Debate this little jake.
Questions are being raised about PBS anchor Gwen Ifill’s objectivity after news surfaced that she is releasing a new book promoting Barack Obama and other black politicians who have benefited from the civil rights struggle.
Ifill is moderating Thursday night’s vice-presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin. Her book, “The Breakthrough,” is due to be released about the same time the next president takes the oath of office.
In her book, Ifill contends that the black political structure of the civil rights movement has cleared the way for post-racial politicians to ascend to new heights..
Now some are wondering whether Ifill can be fair and balanced, and whether she should be the moderator of Thursday’s 9 p.m. ET debate.
FOX News political analyst Michelle Malkin argued in a post on National Review that Ifill is “so far in the tank for the Democratic presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running.”
Click here to read Malkin’s entire post.
Posted by: Jake | October 1, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Oh, that Sarah!
An Alaska NORAD spokesman explained to NY Daily News that when Russian bombers approach U.S. airspace the Governor has no authority whatsoever, despite what she said in the Couric interview.
The Washington Post just found out that Palin used another private e-mail account outside the state government’s system and separate from her hacked Yahoo! account to communicate with a small circle of staff. That’s Palin’s idea of a transparent government, no doubt.
Voters, keep this woman away from the White House.
Republicans, let the McCain campaign know your growing discontent with the empty headed Palin.
Posted by: winston | October 1, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Dirty tricks from the Republicans… surprise/yawn. This is getting old folks. Ifill is not in the tank, she hasn’t even asked a question. Is Palin prepared or not?
Posted by: October Not Surprise | October 1, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Why didn’t the McCain people speak out about the Ifill book before they agreed that she would be the moderator?
1) They understood and recognized Ms. Ifill’s impeccable journalistic credentials or they knew about the book and planned on blaming Ifill for Palin’s debate flameout all along!!
Posted by: indy in tx | October 1, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
It’s all about her command of the issues. Palin is obviously a good debater when she has a good grasp of the issues, but in these recent interviews has shown she is lacking there. If those can be shored up, then she’ll do fine. This is reversed from the Presidential debate last week. If Palin can get a draw, it will be a huge win for the McCain Campaign. However, if she continues to show no concept of the issues at hand, it could effectively end the race because it would put McCain’s decision making into serious doubt.
Posted by: Steve, AL | October 1, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
“Fox News just reported that PBS anchor, Gwen Ifill, who is going to be moderating the VP debate tomorrow night has just published a pro-Obama book. ”
The book will be published in January.
The book was announced in mid July.
The McCain campaign agreed to Gwen Ifill in early August.
So either the McCain campaign didn’t do their homework again or these cries of bias are more about the abilities of the VP (or lackthereof).
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Can any of you do any better in a debate with Joe Biden… I think not.
We do not care about your pea brained opinions regarding Sarah Palin.
She is going to make Biden look like the fool that he is. He slammed his own presidental running mate back in the primaries with degrading and condescending remarks, the democrats are a JOKE.
And thanks to the witch Pelosi, she injected partisanship when it was not the place for it. Shows the democrats put themselves first, not our Country.
Posted by: ML | October 1, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
“Questions are being raised about PBS anchor Gwen Ifill’s objectivity after news surfaced that she is releasing a new book promoting Barack Obama and other black politicians who have benefited from the civil rights struggle.”
News surfaced?
The book was announced in July.
Malkin also thinks that internment (ie imprisonment without cause beyond nationality) was a good idea.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
I’m FURIOUS that the facilitator of the debate is a biased in-favor-of Obama! I cannot BELIEVE that this is being allowed! Why isn’t anyone saying anything? The woman has written books in support of Obama! Why IN THE WORLD would she be picked, and BY WHOM, to facilitate this debate???
Posted by: Kelly | October 1, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
“FOX News political analyst Michelle Malkin argued in a post on National Review that Ifill is “so far in the tank for the Democratic presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running.”
That fair and balanced reporting by FoxNews we keep hearing about.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Only the GOP could feign outrage about a book that was announced in July, one day before a debate in October. Another gotcha from the GOP to set expectations low for Palin. I am smart enough to see bias in a moderator so this doesn’t play.
Posted by: off topic | October 1, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
“Why IN THE WORLD would she be picked, and BY WHOM, to facilitate this debate??”
She was picked by the debate commission and AGREED to by BOTH campaigns because she is known as a fair and serious journalist.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Is Sarah Palin running for vice president of the United States or vice president of the student council?
Listening to some political strategists, pundits and radio and TV blowhards, you would think that all she has to do is show up, sign her name on the roll, and she’s done enough to satisfy the requirement for president.
Do people really and truly understand that she will be sitting a heartbeat away from the presidency, backing up a 72-year-old guy who has a history of cancer?
Nothing drives me nuts more than listening to some of these folks who act as if we shouldn’t expect Palin and Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden to be well-versed on national issues, foreign policy and the social and cultural issues that have to define America.
Posted by: martin | October 1, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Kelly, Ifill was approved by the McCain camp.
Posted by: how it works | October 1, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Jake: McCain has flip out now… check this article out….
McCain Urges Bush To Spend $1 Trillion On Bailout — Without Congressional Approval
I’m not making this up. John McCain today urged the Bush Administration — on more than one occasion — to immediately and uniliterally spend $1 trillion buying up home mortgages.
I was watching live when he made the proposal this morning, and it seemed like such a staggeringly insane idea that I assumed he couldn’t be serious. He couldn’t think that Bush should just spend $1 trillion without asking Congress for permission…could he?
But then I saw his economic adviser try to back the idea up, and then I saw McCain make the proposal again during the NBC Nightly newscast. So he’s serious. He really thinks that Bush should just spend $1 trillion without talking to Congress, without seeking approval, without building any sort of consensus — without getting any protections whatsoever for taxpayers.
YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE VOTING FOR THIS MAN ARE AS INSANE AS HE IS…..
Posted by: beck | October 1, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
McCain is still firing up his base in October. That doesn’t bode well. They must really think Palin may seal the deal for Obama. This moderator nonsense is laughable.
Posted by: Ready OR NOT | October 1, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Matt Damon is probably another one of those Hollywood fluffs that didn’t make it big time. Palin will definately outshine Biden and his mouth. He has put his foot in his mouth three times already and Obama had to corner him on it. Biden has been in politics for many years and he should not have a problem in the debate compared to Palin who didn’t have the need for foreign policy. Obama doesn’t know foreign policy himself and doesn’t have the experience to run this country. Yet he wants to be president.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
KELLY: Relax, she is not writing a book just on Obama. Her book is based on Black men and women in politics. We do have them… You know that don’t you…..McCain’s camp approved her.
Posted by: beck | October 1, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
greta: There are no critical voters in this country. Maybe your one. And if you think that Palin isn’t experienced enough why don’t you put you bid in for the VP. I am sure with you lack of experience you will do just fine.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
both campaigns must agree to the moderator of any debate
the book was announced before they agreed to have her as the moderator
so you have only two choices in this matter
1. the mccain camp is incompetent at doing the most basic of research
2. they didnt really think it was a big deal
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 1, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Well done, Obamafans, trying to raise Palin’s expectations.
Posted by: Bird Dog | October 1, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
“In her book, Ifill contends that the black political structure of the civil rights movement has cleared the way for post-racial politicians to ascend to new heights.. ”
The problem is, if Obama is the avatar of that movement today, he is destroying it by cheating. Why does he have to cheat to win? Why is voter registration fraud required? Why can’t he admit he trained volunteers for that and sued banks to obtain sub-prime mortgages for unqualified borrowers thus being a direct contributor to the current financial crisis?
Why does Obama have to cheat to win?
Posted by: len | October 1, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
martin: So what if Palin is a heartbeat from the presidency. So is Biden and Obama is not as smart as Biden yet is is running for the presidency. Two wrongs don’t make a right. If you think Palin shouldn’t be the VP, then Obama shouldn’t be running for the presidency. He himself lacks the knowledge and experience that Biden already has and he has yet to learn. If elected what a mess for this country.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Of great concern to McCain’s campaign is a remaining and still-undisclosed clip from Palin’s interview with Couric last week.
A Palin aide, after first noting how “infuriating” it was for CBS to purportedly leak word about the gaffe, revealed that it came in response to a question about Supreme Court decisions.
After noting Roe vs. Wade, Palin was apparently unable to discuss any major court cases.
There was no verbal fumbling with this particular question as there was with some others, the aide said, but rather silence.
Posted by: silence | October 1, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Why is the GOP afraid to say out loud what they think deep within them.
They think that because Gwen Ifill is BLACK she automatically support Obama who do I need to remind you is BLACK.
All you Repugs are a bunch of racist pigs.
Did you hear any complaints about Jim Lehrer being WHITE?
Pathetic losers.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | October 1, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
“She was picked by the debate commission and AGREED to by BOTH campaigns because she is known as a fair and serious journalist.”
Fair and serious in the world of the liberal media.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Book or not….who would ever know
how Ifill will vote?
Posted by: MEW | October 1, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
“Fair and serious in the world of the liberal media.”
So Mack was the McCain campaign then momumentally stupid to agree to her as moderator given what you perceive as her deeply held bias?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Hey len,
Can you name a single instance of voter registration fraud committed by the Obama campaign this election?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Sarah Who: Sarah Palin will topple and trick old Biden. But of course you forgot one thing. Biden praised her as a good looking woman which means he may be looking at her and forget to answer the questions. The leader of Pakistan didn’t want to let her hand go. What does that tell you.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Mariann Pepitone,
Obama is “not as smart” as Biden? LOL. Let me guarantee you that the former Harvard Law Review President is a whole lot smarter than Joe Biden. Combined with Biden’s great experience that makes a perfect combination for a presidential team imo. And yes, may the smartest one win.
Posted by: martin | October 1, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
“Matt Damon is probably another one of those Hollywood fluffs that didn’t make it big time”
Not that what Matt Damon says on political matters much to me but he has had a pretty good career.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
“The leader of Pakistan didn’t want to let her hand go. What does that tell you.”
That a McCain administration key to foreign policy would be pimping out Palin?
What are you trying to say here?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Voter Fraud: Doesn’t voter registration happening in Ohio this week qualify?
Posted by: Star Struck | October 1, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
The McCain people are already crying about “discrimination”!
The debate hasn’t even happened yet.
You know, conservatives were quick to side with perpetrators AFTER Rodney King was beaten and AFTER Matthew Shepherd was murdered. In these cases, conservatives ridiculed people who complained about discrimination against gays and African-Americans…. even in the face of clear cut physical crimes.
But they cry about discrimination in a debate…. before the debate even occurs?
Please.
Posted by: blip | October 1, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Did you know that Gwen Ifill, the moderator of the VP debate has a financial stake in making sure that Obama wins the November election? She has written a pro-Obama book which is scheduled to be released on inauguration day! She never bothered to disclose that information to the McCain campaign! The fix is in on this debate. Ifill is a devout Obama partisan.
Posted by: OxyCon | October 1, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Palin will do fine as long as she doesn’t have to answer any specific questions.
That’s what she’s good at.
The problems with her interviews are not related to her IQ…. the problem is that she is evasive. But she knows that if she says what she really thinks, only a narrow slice of the population will support her.
It is much better for her to keep from answering those nefarious “gotcha” questions in which you are held accountable for what you really think.
Posted by: blip | October 1, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
mccain got lost on stage HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 1, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Palin cannot win for McCain. In all likelyhood the debate will be a conventional one, quite boring, and it will be back to the presidential candidates who is 1) McCharacter we know and 2) The One who can do no wrong.
It makes me sick to the stomack so many people think a novice we don’t know is better than a proven reformer who can talk to everyone. The more we know Obama, the more we dislike the guy: Why? Because he’s immensly cynical, fickle and let’s face it hollow. He’s the guy put there to stop the woman, and who soldout to everybody. America should say no to 4 more years of Corporate pandering in the White House.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | October 1, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
I like Sarah Palin and don’t mind one bit that the Democrats underestimate her.
Posted by: Just my two-cents | October 1, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Again, OxyCon, how do you sit there and attack Ifill’s motives…
When your candidate has numerous lobbyists on his campagin staff who are drawing paychecks from the very firms that McCain wants to deregulate?
I mean, Bush is an oil man, and we are paying record prices for a gallon a gas. Palin’s husband works for a foreign oil company… and we are supposed to trust her expertise on energy if she gets elected????
Really… who cares if Ifill makes 10,000 dollars or even 100,000 dollars in royalities on a book about Obama….
You support a candidate whose friends and family stand to rake in billions off their political success. And, given their party’s knack for profiteering and corruption… A sane person would worry more about McCain-Palin’s fortunes than those of someone like Ifill.
Posted by: blip | October 1, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Palin looked bad in the interviews when Couric forced her stay on issue.
That’s not the format of this debate. In this debate, Palin will be able to talk about other things.
Anyone thinking Palin will stumble with this format should remember Bush using the same tactics. Americans know Bush was incompetent, but he was able to ingore the question.
Posted by: Dan | October 1, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I am less worried about McCain getting lost on stage… and more worried about his simmering rage. It showed up in those grimaces during the debates. And it shows up whenever anyone disagrees with him. Very disturbing.
Posted by: blip | October 1, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
“Fair and serious in the world of the liberal media.”
So Mack was the McCain campaign then momumentally stupid to agree to her as moderator given what you perceive as her deeply held bias? ”
If they complain then they are perceived as whiners. If you can’t stand up to Ifill how will you stand up to Putin…blah…blah…blah.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
“When your candidate has numerous lobbyists on his campagin staff who are drawing paychecks from the very firms that McCain wants to deregulate?”
Fannie, Freddie and Barry.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
“Can you name a single instance of voter registration fraud committed by the Obama campaign this election?”
I tried, Ryan, but your spam filter snagged it as usual when people reply to your rhetorical questions. I suggest you do the search yourself since you know all about ‘googling’ but don’t seem to concern yourself with the ethics of your candidate.
So I ask once again, why does Obama have to cheat to win? We’ve had eight years of crap sandwiches from Bush. Do we deserve another four from Obama?
Posted by: len | October 1, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Yeah… I actually think Palin will do well during the debates.
Where she will suffer is if she has to defend Republican policies.
But I think she will just drift into a talking point… and then she will be fine.
Every once in a while, she’ll take a dig at Biden… and people will think, “Wow! She’s feisty.” But as long as her fiestiness never rises above Jean Schmidt chihuahua level… Biden will do fine.
If she exceeds chihuahua-level feistiness, she risks appearing like a Nurse Ratched type. And if Biden keeps his cool while the Big Nurse blows it… then he’ll be a hero. But I don’t think Palin will blow it.
In the end, she’ll just yammer on like she knows what she’s talking about… and most people will just be impressed that she’s acting confident. Even if she has no clue what she’s talking about.
It’s sad… but this debate won’t be about issues… it is going to be just a style contest.
There’s a lot going on in this country… but Palin is not equipped to deal with it.
Posted by: blip | October 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
“I tried, Ryan, but your spam filter snagged it as usual when people reply to your rhetorical questions.”
My spam filter?
That’s what you’re reduced to len in the face of McCain’s campaign tanking?
Yesterday you claimed there would be blood in the streets from rioting if Obama won.
Today you claim Obama is cheating with ZERO evidence and then accuse me of somehow blocking your comments.
I know its been a rough week but get it together would you.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
palin does have one Big advantage in this debate. Joe Biden can NOT see Russia from Delaware…
Posted by: pt | October 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
“So Mack was the McCain campaign then momumentally stupid to agree to her as moderator given what you perceive as her deeply held bias? ”
If they complain then they are perceived as whiners. If you can’t stand up to Ifill how will you stand up to Putin…blah…blah…blah.”
So instead of making it an issue in August when no one is paying attention and it would be much less likely to be perceived by the public as whining just political inside baseball, they make it an issue 1 day before the debate with all eyes focused on it.
The McCain campaign has shown that a McCain administration would be a complete mess.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
“Fannie, Freddie and Barry.”
$120K in campaign contributions over 12 years in public office vs $240K in the last year alone paid to Rick Davis for access to McCain.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Blip Said: Every once in a while, she’ll take a dig at Biden… and people will think, “Wow! She’s feisty.”
I agree with this statement. “They” will talk about how tough and feisty she is, and that somehow is a qualifier for VP.
However, if Biden takes a dig at Palin, “they” will talk about how rude, condescending and sexist he was towards her. It’s a guaranteed double standard. And that “my friends” is one of the glaring problems the Republican party.
Posted by: Cindy | October 1, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Oh… I found some cheating going on….
McCain Campaign sent out absentee ballot requests with the wrong addresses on them in Milwaukee. This means many people who apply for the ballots in this urban, pro-Obama area, will have their requests sent to the wrong place.
In Michigan, state Republicans attempted to block voters who have lost their homes to foreclosure from voting in the upcoming election.
The same thing has happened in Ohio.
Also, in Virginia, I beleive, the state Republican Party sent intimidating and false information to college students, suggesting that if they vote from the university, they could be guilty of election fraud.
I’m sure more of these stories will appear after election day. You know, like in 2004, where in some districts, more votes were cast for Bush than were registered to vote in the entire district. Or, the recent report given by a Republican who confessed that the Ohio vote tabulators were hosted on an insecure server at a firm run by Republican activists. He reported that there were many places in this system in which someone could tamper with data coming and going…. and given the fact that this firm is currently being investigate for other highly partisan criminal activities… it seems quite possible that they DID tamper with the election.
It’s a real pattern and it has proven results.
I haven’t heard anything about Obama, though.
Posted by: blip | October 1, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
The “Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now,” known by the acronym ACORN, acknowledged that one of its employees had been filing bogus voter registrations in Seminole County, Florida, but characterized it as “an isolated incident.”
“ACORN has received nearly a million dollars from the Barack Obama Campaign in 2008. Senator Obama and mentor William Ayers also worked with ACORN during Obama’s years as a Community Organizer in Chicago.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Ryan… all they got is excuses.
No plan for America… so they traffic in lies, innuendos, and conspiracy theories.
Can’t win it straight, so they gotta do it dirty.
That’s how they played it in 2004. That’s how they played it in 2000.
That’s how they played it against Bill Clinton.
But this time, history is overwhelmingly stacked against them. The lies have caught up with them. The failures have cuaght up with them. The economy has caught up with them.
All we gotta do is make sure we vote and that our vote is counted.
Posted by: Blip | October 1, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Blip,
Don’t forget GOP plans to challenge minority voters.
len was kind enough to tell me this would lead to race riots so Obama should make sure minorities stay away from the polls or the riots would be his fault.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
“But this time, history is overwhelmingly stacked against them. The lies have caught up with them. The failures have cuaght up with them. The economy has caught up with them.
All we gotta do is make sure we vote and that our vote is counted”
Damn right!
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Governor Palin faces a daunting challenge in the debate with a moderator who so strongly supports Obama, she has written a book praising him.
There can be little doubt the questions will play to Biden’s strengths. I sure hope he has the opportunity to elaborate on the incident in which his helicopter was forced down in Afghanistan, and he was shot at in Iraq, since the media does not feel the need to investigate these over-the-top remarks he made.
To those who have been so critical of Governor Palin’s performance in recent interviews with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric, you would do well to read the transcrips of the interviews, rather than forming opinions based on what you are being spoon-fed by the media.
Posted by: LJC | October 1, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
and many people will know by then about Gwen “The Age of Obama” Ifill’s financial conflict of interest.
Posted by: geevill | October 1, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
ACORN’s management flagged a number of registration cards as “problematic”. They fired the person responsible for the problematic registrations.
The GOP in Florida got wind of this and are trying to suggest that this kind of fraud… filling out a voter’s registration card for them… is widespread and systemic fraud.
Now, does filling out a voter’s registration card mean that this person is going to vote for Obama? No. Is it wrong? I suppose it is.
But ACORN fired the individual responsible before the Republicans even knew about it. ACORN saved the problematic forms as evidence.
This kind of “Fraud” is small peanuts next to the massive irregularities in vote counting that gave Ohio to Bush in 2004. In fact, the courts did not even think ACORN committed fraud at all. The only ones who are crying fraud are partisan Republicans looking to stir up controversy.
And ACORN is a great target because they register minorities.
Posted by: Blip | October 1, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
I would hope that if Palin was running for gov of Alasks, she would know about things that involve Alaska, but, that does not translate into knowing jack about the rest of the United States or even the world. This is a woman who can not even magazines or newspapers that she reads. ANYONE could do that. I do not want the President or Vice President to be like me or my neighbor. I want those people to be smart and able to deal with real world situations. Palin has proven she can give a great prewritten stump speech and throw out one liners…but else can she really do. The problems facing our nation are grave and she is still telling us what a great job she did in Alaska. Amazed.
Posted by: Patty Atlanta | October 1, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
len:
Voter fraud: Ohio voting may not be done in Obama’s name, but you can almost be sure that he had something to with the decision to go forward with it. Register and vote the same day, how many days can you vote? At least seven, and maybe more depending how many times the bus comes by your stop.
Posted by: Star Struck | October 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
“To those who have been so critical of Governor Palin’s performance in recent interviews with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric, you would do well to read the transcrips of the interviews, rather than forming opinions based on what you are being spoon-fed by the media.”
You think the transcripts actually help her?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Of course, Ryan. In Ohio in 2004, in black districts, lines were 10 hours long. 10 hours! In Bush-leaning districts, you could walk in, vote, and walk right out.
Now who is going to wait 10 hours to vote? Some people. But most people have jobs and bills and kids… they cannot afford to wait 10 hours.
Now maybe the Republicans don’t think this is a problem… but if you did this to voters in GOP strongholds… they would be crying their eyes out.
Posted by: Blip | October 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Gwen Ifill will be moderating the debate?!? She just wrote a pro-Obama book and is perceived as far left. Gwen Ifill hates conservative ideas and conservatives themselves. Her not only biased but entirely unprofessional interviews — including sixth-grader-like eye rolls! — at the Republican Convention calls for her firing! Wow what a set up! Ifill has a lot of money riding on this debate, so who do you think the questions will favor? Democrats can’t be trusted! Just another mockery of our political system that is controlled by the media.
Obama on the American Flag and National Anthem:
According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. ‘As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,’ Obama said. ‘There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.’
Posted by: M/P 08 | October 1, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Hey Ryan, are you a graduate of Barry’s indoctrination camp?
“The next tip is to be absolutely ruthless,” Jocelyn Woodards tells the campers. “We want you to be determined, ambitious, take a risk.”
No toasted marshmallows here. This is the second day of Camp Obama, a two-day (sometimes four-day) intensive training course in becoming an activist to help get Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) elected president.
“It’s not enough for you to be a supporter of Barack. You have to go out and build an organization that will deliver votes for Barack Obama,” Woodards tells the 40 campers “
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
I go to lots of sporting events…. 99% of the people in attendance do not place their hand over their hearts during the national anthem.
Are you saying baseball fans are unpatriotic?
Posted by: Blip | October 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Everyone keeps saying she doesn’t know about the politics in Washington because she’s from Alaska. Well are forgeting that she has to be very involved with everything since her state seems the one that everyone keeps talking about “To drill or not to drill” She has been in politics for a while. I can’t believe that Anyone is playing the no experiance card since Obama is still a baby in politics.
Posted by: pagemaster892 | October 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Blip:
“And ACORN is a great target because they register minorities.”
Well…..
Posted by: Star Struck | October 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
I’m hoping that Ifill and Biden don’t allow Palin to get away with a single canned response to any question. I would hope that either, or both, press Palin to expand or defend her positions. The structure of the debate limits the time to do that — but if they don’t make it a little intense for Palin, this debate will be just a series of small speeches.
Posted by: DogBitez | October 1, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
“Hey Ryan, are you a graduate of Barry’s indoctrination camp?”
No, I am a ruthless sob all on my own.
Though I may go to Camp Obama next week to help set up a phone bank beyond what I am some friends are doing.
So what did you think of this Mack?
The assignment is simple: We are going to write letters to the editor and we are allowed to make up whatever we want — as long as it adds to the campaign. After today we are supposed to use our free moments at home to create a flow of fictional fan mail for McCain. “Your letters,” says Phil Tuchman, “will be sent to our campaign offices in battle states. Ohio. Pennsylvania. Virginia. New Hampshire. There we’ll place them in local newspapers.”
Place them? I may be wrong, but I thought that in the USA only a newspaper’s editors decided that.
“We will show your letters to our supporters in those states,” explains Phil. “If they say: ‘Yeah, he/she is right!’ then we ask them to sign your letter. And then we send that letter to the local newspaper. That’s how we send dozens of letters at once.”
No newspaper can refuse a stream of articulate expressions of support, is the thought behind it. “This way, we will always get into some letters column.”
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
“This is a woman who can not even magazines or newspapers that she reads. ANYONE could do that.”
Who sits down and reads a newspaper anymore? Most people read articles online that interest them from a number of differnet sources. I can’t remember the last time I held an actual newspaper in my hand.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
McCain should have selected a different moderator for the debate.
Ifill was chosen by the McCain camp.
Why?
So that you could get a head start on crying about the debates ahead of time I suppose. So you could blame any of Palin’s shortcomings on Ifill. She’s black! She supports Obama! She’s from PBS!
McCain’s campaign picked her for a reason. TO give you something to snivel about.
The McCain Campaign always has something to snivel about. It’s part of his style to play the victim card.
Posted by: Blip | October 1, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
“I go to lots of sporting events…. 99% of the people in attendance do not place their hand over their hearts during the national anthem.”
Actually this annoys me a great deal and I’ve been to stadiums in every corner of the country.
I sing the national anthem when its played and I think others should to.
If you don’t feel comfortable singing in public at least remove your hat and show some respect.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
“Who sits down and reads a newspaper anymore? Most people read articles online that interest them from a number of differnet sources. I can’t remember the last time I held an actual newspaper in my hand. ”
So then the answer to that question could have been I read more sources on line?
That was a terrible answer Mack.
She could have said the Wall Street Journal and the Alaskan state paper and been done with it for specific examples.
Doesn’t it scare you that commentators here (left and right) think better on their feet than she does?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
I have noticed a lot of people that have forgot how to show respect for their country and the men and women that have died to keep it free. But when they tell me that they “don’t want to be perceived as taking sides” by showing that respect, that to me says they have already picked a side and it is not American Values.
Posted by: M/P 08 | October 1, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Every one on these blogs need to “get a life” we are just waisting our time. We are not going to change any minds by what we say..you can’t educate idiots.
Posted by: Star Struck | October 1, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
I am very familiar with GOP astroturfing… they have been doing it for years.
You send out these fake letters… and then get locals to sign and send them.
It happens quite often. It started with the big bad boys of Wall Street. Tobacco, Pharma, Oil, and Agribusiness… they all do this kind of marketing. It seems natural that they would share this technique with their buddies in the GOP.
But, to be fair, Axelrod also has experience in astrotrufing. But Democratic astroturfing is negligible next to the Republican machine. The GOP are masters of buying fake popular support for their initiatives. And their base tends to be more loyal and trusting of their media venues (Rush Limbaugh, Christian Coalition, Fox News). The Democrats just don’t have the kind of consolidated base working in lock step with Church and Media entities. And I hope they never, ever do.
Posted by: Blip | October 1, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
M/P 08 shares an email with us that snopes has called false.
See that bit about replacing the national anthem with I’d like to teach the world to sing?
That was satire by John Semmens that right wingers pass around as fact.
The lesson as always?
Well you know ;-)
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
“Doesn’t it scare you that commentators here (left and right) think better on their feet than she does? ”
She’s no Hillary Clinton, that’s for sure.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Ryan c is so naive that he thinks everything posted on snopes is true. You are being fooled by people who create rebuttals to things they don’t like.
Posted by: M/P 08 | October 1, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
“But when they tell me that they “don’t want to be perceived as taking sides” by showing that respect, that to me says they have already picked a side and it is not American Values”
M/P 08 you are getting upset about something that never happened.
Check snopes.
If anything you should be upset that the person who forwarded you that email lied to you.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Ryan, the point is that nobody puts their hands on their heart while singing the national anthem. Does that mean most Americans hate America? No. It just means that this is not the custom.
I haven’t seen McCain or Bush put their hands on their hearts during the anthem.
Maybe they do… maybe they don’t. This is a false controversy. Because nobody does it… except people who are trying to make a partisan point. It’s sad that saluting the flag or singing the national anthem has been reduced to a weapon of a single political party. To try to suggest that Republicans love America more is just insulting… especially since so many Republicans have hurt this country and her national interests. It’s an absolute insult to the whole country this game that they play.
Posted by: Blip | October 1, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
“Ryan c is so naive that he thinks everything posted on snopes is true. You are being fooled by people who create rebuttals to things they don’t like.”
I’m naive because I research a claim and find it to be false.
But you are not naive because you take a forwarded email’s accuracy at face value.
OK then….
I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but it looks like your ignorance is quite willful.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
If Snopes disagrees with a Republican Conspiracy theory… it is because THEY are the ones who are biased.
There’s nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with the tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. It’s snopes that’s the problem.
Posted by: Blip | October 1, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
How can McCain supporters continue to circulate demonstrably false allegations?
Either they are naive rubes… or cynical liars.
Posted by: Blip | October 1, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
“Ryan, the point is that nobody puts their hands on their heart while singing the national anthem. Does that mean most Americans hate America? No. It just means that this is not the custom.”
While Americans certainly do not hate America, the national anthem tends to get more respect when we feel good about our country and that stems from how our country is run not its core values.
I sing the national anthem regardless but I want to feel good about my country again.
And that is why I am voting for and donating to Obama.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Alaska Governor Sarah Palin said this about oil companies: “When I look every day, the big oil company’s building is right out there next to me, and it’s quite a reminder that we should have mutually beneficial relationships with the oil industry.” (Source: Roll Call, 08/25/08).
Posted by: l | October 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
LOL Greta Van Sustren is now reporting that the McCain campaign did not know about Gwen Ifill’s book.
That’s right folks.
Yet another case of the McCain campaign not doing their homework and whining like little children when the report is due.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Gwen Ifill should recuse herself from moderating tomorrows debate!
Posted by: The OD | October 1, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
ryan..I do to, I sing I salute and I have taught my children to do the same. I respect your opinion and your right by American Freedom to express it. However, I do not need an obama socialist government to make me feel good about my country. When I see or hear McCain, a true American hero, it keeps the pride that has always been there bursting out even more. That’s why I donate my time and money to organize voter registration, benefit socials, commercial signs and news letters for McCain.
Posted by: M/P 08 | October 1, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Posted by Ryan C: “You think the transcripts actually help her?”
Yes, I do.
ABC’s front page headline: “Sarah Palin Doesn’t Read the Papers?”.
In reality, Governor Palin REFUSED TO NAME the magazines/newspapers she reads in response to Ms. Couric’s interview question.
ABC clearly intended to convey a negative, and inaccurate account of the Governor’s response.
Many voters are being influenced by the media’s all too often incomplete, inaccurate, and misleading reports of campaign events on both sides.
Spending more time seeking factual information helps us all to vote responsibly. Reading the full transcript of an interview is one easy way we can all be better informed.
Posted by: LJC | October 1, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
“In reality, Governor Palin REFUSED TO NAME the magazines/newspapers she reads in response to Ms. Couric’s interview question.”
Refused?
Seemed like she was dancing around the question especially when you see it on video.
Much like her inability to name a single Supreme Court decision beyond Roe v Wade, this seems to be a case where her handlers had not prepped her.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
“ryan..I do to, I sing I salute and I have taught my children to do the same.”
Do you also teach your children to lie by way of your example?
You were shown something was untrue and you continue to repeat it.
Once is a mistake, twice is a lie.
Is that what you are teaching your children lying is ok when done for political purposes?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
That’s right folks, just like Billy Martin not questioning George Brett’s pine tarred bat until he hit that homerun.
We do know that Gewn Ifill knew she was writing a book. That’s all that matters. Now did the Debate Commission know?
Posted by: geevill | October 1, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
“I sing the national anthem regardless but I want to feel good about my country again.
And that is why I am voting for and donating to Obama.”
I don’t think I want to know what would make you feel good about our country again. If it involves Obama, Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, Rezko, Farrakhan, black liberation theology, TUCC, ACORN, Chicago thug politics, etc., then I hope that you never feel good about our country again.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Wow, good Demagog-ocrat Astroturfing going on here, Mr. Axelrod, good job! Your are using that Fannie and Freddie Payola really well!
But ultimately, my money is on the wisdom of the American people to see through your thuggery and vote for the ticket that stands for honest reform: McCain/Palin.
* During this finance crisis, you guys tried putting your party’s dog poop onto the other party, with your incompetent Pelosi at her loveliest. But truth will out, friends, so be very afraid.
* You guys tried hacking into emails, hoping to find something as scummy as you guys write, but no one, especially Palin, is as scummy as you.
I could go on, but you get my drift. I think this story is a set-up, because anyone who can stand 7 seconds of Sen. Biden in hearings knows how talented he is as a polished, merciless slimeball. Get ready, it will be nasty.
Posted by: Carol | October 1, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
“Ryan, the point is that nobody puts their hands on their heart while singing the national anthem”
How big of a lie is that? Go to the videotape. Hillary Clinton -hand over heart CHECK. Bill Richardson -hand over heaert -CHECK. The Harkins -hand over hert -CHECK. Obama -hand over heart – NOPE. hands impatiently fidgeting around -CHECK.
Posted by: geevill | October 1, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Mack: Amen!!!!
We won’t have to worry about putting our hands over our hearts or know the words to the National Anthem.
Posted by: s | October 1, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
“I don’t think I want to know what would make you feel good about our country again”
How about we stop torturing people?
How about we start honoring our ideals of liberty and justice for all and stop claiming we’re spreading democracy while laying waste to another country?
How about instead of throwing up our hands and pretending climate change doesn’t exist we start acting like leaders?
How about we stop looking the other way while Wall Street fleeces Main Street?
That would make me feel good about our country again.
You? You want a continuation of the current policies if not a further lurch rightward.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
I was wondering yesterday if these screwy interviews were all a setup to lower our expectations about Palin so that if she makes it through tomorrow night, she will be declared the winner.
Could the McCain campaign be that smart?
Posted by: cincyr | October 1, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
“Could the McCain campaign be that smart?”
Lowering expectations to the point of destroying any sense of credibility is rarely a smart thing.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
“That’s right folks, just like Billy Martin not questioning George Brett’s pine tarred bat until he hit that homerun.”
So geevil admits this is only an issue because the McCain campaign is losing.
I happen to agree with that.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Since McCain could not figure out how to pospone his debate so it would take the date of the VP debate they are now trying to manufacture outrage over Gwen Ifill as moderator to cancel the Palin debate. Let Sarah be Sarah. It’s hell filling the shoes of the first, but she will do Geraldine Ferraro proud.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Ryan C.,
You should be the democratic candidate, you are so knowledgable.
Posted by: s | October 1, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Using Mccain logic, they will have to cancel the Presidential debate with Tom Brokaw. He wrote a book that is pro-veteran. It wouldn’t be fair.
Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Ryan C: Let go on to advise you that Katie Couric had her problems before she worked for CBS. She worked for ABC in 1979 as a Low Level Assistant. Later she went to CNN where she was released of her duties because a top executive did not like the tone of her voice. And she got the job on The Today Show. I don’t know how long that lasted before she went to CBS. So she has been around from job to job. She is not that bright. Palin is good at the trade in answering what she wants to answer and that’s the way it should be. Avoid answering what you think they should not ask.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Cincyr: No. Instead they will use Gwen Ifill to either cancel or postpone the debate or raise enough of a stink to further their cause of Palin as Miss Media Martyr. Meanwhile Ifill and Random House will chuckle all the way to the bestseller list.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
“Using Mccain logic, they will have to cancel the Presidential debate with Tom Brokaw. He wrote a book that is pro-veteran. It wouldn’t be fair.”
Not quite.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
“Using Mccain logic, they will have to cancel the Presidential debate with Tom Brokaw”
Forget the book, how about this?
His mission, he said, was to assure the candidate’s aides that — despite some negative on-air commentary by Mr. Olbermann in particular — Mr. McCain could still get a fair shake from NBC News. Mr. Brokaw said he had been told by a senior McCain aide, whom he did not name, that the campaign had been reluctant to accept an NBC representative as one of the moderators of the three presidential debates — until his name was invoked.
“One of the things I was told by this person was that they were so irritated, they said, ‘If it’s an NBC moderator, for any of these debates, we won’t go,’ ” Mr. Brokaw said. “My name came up, and they said, ‘Oh, hell, we have to do it, because it’s going to be Brokaw.”
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Mariann Pepitone – Couric started with NBC as the Deputy Pentagon Correspondent. She was with NBC News from 1989-2006. She started on the Today show in 1989 and helped to make it the #1 morning show on TV.
Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
It has been known for months that Gwen Ifill was working on a book about the “younger generation of black politicans”. The book looks at Obama and 3 other “up-and-coming” politicians. There is NO evidence the book will be favorable to Obama. She had this to say about the criticism in a WaPo article today:
“I still don’t know if he’ll be a good president. I’m still capable of looking at his pros and cons in a political sense.” She added: “No one’s ever assumed a white reporter can’t cover a white candidate.”
Ifill is an excellent journalist. I have seen no bias in her reporting thus far on the Newshour or Washington Week.
In any case, if Palin does not do well, it is likely Ifill will be blamed.
Posted by: cincyr | October 1, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
“Avoid answering what you think they should not ask.”
You think a candidate should refuse to answer which newspapers they read after asserting reading newspapers gives them their world view?
Did all the good germans move here after WW2 or what?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
sp: I take it you are an expert in debates.Palin is smarter than Couric and I can give you a run down about Couric. Palin knows what to say and not say and slick chic Couric thought Palin would answer her dumb questions. When anyone avoids a direct answer its because of a dumb question.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
“Palin is smarter than Couric”
I am willing to bet that Couric can name more SUpreme Court decisions than Roe v Wade.
Something Palin could not do.
Look for her to mention at least 4 or 5 Supreme Court decision in the debate tomorrow in a hilarious rehash of Bush ticking off the Nigerian cabinet.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Mariann P is wrong. Couric was actually a Low Level Assistant II and supervised other junior Low Level Assistant I’s. Then she was promnoted to Low Level Radioactive Waste Correspondent, in which capacity she was assigned the hazardous task of interviewing Palin and other fossil views.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
It has been well known for many months Gwen is working on a book of this nature. The McCain campaign doesn’t have a Gwen problem, they have a VETTING problem.
Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
“Yesterday you claimed there would be blood in the streets from rioting if Obama won.”
Try again. I said something altogether different: if the votes are contested because of voter fraud and he is not elected, there is the possibility of rioting. Leading figures said it and you deny it. You’re lieing Ryan.
“Today you claim Obama is cheating with ZERO evidence and then accuse me of somehow blocking your comments.”
There are indictments in over 12 states against ACORN, Ryan. You know that.
Why do you have to cheat to win? Is that what Obama indoctrination teaches? Is that what you want for this country?
We’ve just had eight years of it. We want real change. Obama is more of what Bush has done but worse because he is recruiting the kids to do his dirty deeds for him.
Ryan, has the spam filter ever stopped one of your low-information posts? If not, explain the ABC spam filters to us.
You aren’t what we need. You are exactly what is worst for the country. You are passionate but without ethics and that is exactly the kind of crap sandwich we’ve been forced to eat for eight years, except now we’ll have to do it with a bad economy made worse by Obama’s entitlement programs that will raise taxes and drive the country into a depresssion.
Posted by: len | October 1, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
“It has been known for months that Gwen Ifill was working on a book about the “younger generation of black politicans”. The book looks at Obama and 3 other “up-and-coming” politicians. There is NO evidence the book will be favorable to Obama.’
She should just make the disclaimer before the debate: I’m Barack Obama and I approve this message. Simple.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
“If not, explain the ABC spam filters to us.”
Who is us, len?
Are you posting from Arlington with the rest of the McCain ghost writers?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Snoopes might be able to verify, just heard that sometime ago Joe Biden wanted
to give Iran a $2million dollar check with no strings attached.
Posted by: s | October 1, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Despite the long post about how deletions are related to url’s, my post about Joe Pepitone was deleted. Did I get his ERA wrong?
Posted by: Ricky | October 1, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
len says “drive the country into a depression.’
Thank you BUSH/CHENEY/McCAIN for that depression! These past 8 years have been a “crap sandwich” and on November 4th – voters will be removing the “crap sandwich” from the menu.
Posted by: Get Real | October 1, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
“I said something altogether different: if the votes are contested because of voter fraud and he is not elected, there is the possibility of rioting.”
You said nothing about him not being elected. You discussed voter fraud in the event of a landslide. You blamed Obama telling people to get in other people faces.
You were message testing scare tactics.
“Leading figures said it and you deny it. You’re lieing Ryan.”
Which leading figure len? Rush? Hannity? Savage?
“”Today you claim Obama is cheating with ZERO evidence and then accuse me of somehow blocking your comments.”
“There are indictments in over 12 states against ACORN, Ryan. You know that.”
Again where is the evidence of voter registration fraud this election len?
There are also a dozen Congressmen and dozens of aides from the Republican party indicted for abuse of power, perhaps the Republicans party should be disallowed from further elections given their past behavior?
That is your logic taken to heart len.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Sorry Ryan, len doesn’t sound Dutch.
And Arlington is where the Texas Rangers play so Pepitone could not have ptiched for them. They were the Senators when he was ghosting.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
If Palin wants to start the debate off even, she should congratulate Gwen the first rattle out of the box, “congratulations on your book. Hope you are successful.” The worm will turn….
Posted by: Star Struck | October 1, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Mack,
I am all for Gwen making a disclaimer about writing a book about Obama.
Then I would also like Brokaw to make a disclaimer about his work as liason with the McCain campaign and his friendship with the Senator.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
“If Palin wants to start the debate off even, she should congratulate Gwen the first rattle out of the box, “congratulations on your book. Hope you are successful”
Use your own lines instead of RedState’s crap.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
“Sorry Ryan, len doesn’t sound Dutch.
And Arlington is where the Texas Rangers play so Pepitone could not have ptiched for them. They were the Senators when he was ghosting.”
Ricky you kill me.
The obscurity, the “inside baseball”.
Its like Dennis Miller without his right wing lobotomy.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
These past 8 years have been a “crap sandwich” and on November 4th – voters will be removing the “crap sandwich” from the menu.’
And it will be replaced with a sandwich au merde.
Posted by: Mack | October 1, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
“And it will be replaced with a sandwich au merde.”
With a side of freedom fries
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Mack – au merde and a “crap sandwich” are the same thing. Nice to know you are for getting rid of the GOP too!
Posted by: Get Real | October 1, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Posted by Ryan C: “Refused? Seemed like she was dancing around the question especially when you see it on video.
Much like her inability to name a single Supreme Court decision beyond Roe v Wade, this seems to be a case where her handlers had not prepped her.”
I saw the interview Ryan. What you perceived as “dancing around”, I saw as repeated attempts to as politely as possible refuse to give the answer Ms. Couric so badly wanted to a completely irrelavant question.
How many decisions of the Alaska Supreme Court do you think the other candidates could name? My point being, Sarah Palin is the Governor of Alaska, and as such, her CHIEF responsibility has been to focus on matters of greatest importance to her state. She has been highly effective in her role as chief executive of the State of Alaska. Prior to being elected Governor, Palin had not previously served in that capacity, or as a state legislator. She had been the mayor of a city. In two short years, she has achieved recognition as a Governor with the highest [or second highest], approval rating of the 50 Governors in the country. This would seem to indicate she is extremely quick to learn, and has good leadership skills.
I have little doubt Senator Obama could not only identify a number of supreme court decisions, but could probably recite several of them word-for-word. He is a master at memorization. However, his inability to think on his feet, and lack of accomplishments in the elected offices he has held raise serious doubts about his convictions and leadership skills/abilities.
Posted by: LJC | October 1, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Thanking Ifill on her upcoming book.
That would be brilliant. Thanks Ryan C
Posted by: Missy | October 1, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
LIC,
There are a dozen Supreme Court decisions that every American kid learns throughout schooling.
Some of them are huge for their impact such as Marbury v Madison, Dred Scott and Brown v Board of Ed and are a part of basic US history classes.
That was as big a softball as one can get tossed.
Its like asking someone to name their favorite President.
Are you seriously saying a VP candidate does not need to know basic US history?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Ryan C.,
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If Palin wants to start the debate off even, she should congratulate Gwen the first rattle out of the box, “congratulations on your book. Hope you are successful.” The worm will turn….
Posted by: Star Struck
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Voter fraud..what is happening in Ohio this week. How many times can they vote? Are they elegible to vote?
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Snoopes might be able to verify, just heard that sometime ago Joe Biden wanted
to give Iran a $2million dollar check with no strings attached.
Posted by: s
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Give us your thoughts…
Posted by: Star Struck | October 1, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
LJC- He is a master at memorization.
____________________________________________
Obama is a Constitutional lawyer.
Obama introduced 820 Bills in the Illinois State Legislature.
Obama has sponsored 427 Bills and authored 152 of them in the US Senate. His district has more people than Palin’s state.
My young children have been to more countries and had their passports longer than Palin. They can also complete a sentence.
Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
“I have little doubt Senator Obama could not only identify a number of supreme court decisions, but could probably recite several of them word-for-word.”
Imagine that as a Constitutional Law lecturer, Obama knows about Supreme Court decisions famous and obscure and can discuss them in great detail.
Joe Biden who also teaches a class in Consitutional Law and has done so for decades can also do such.
John McCain likely has a working knowledge of Supreme Court decisions from his campaign finance bill alone to say nothing of historical knowledge.
Palin could not answer a basic US history question that any American school kid could.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
So, did Couric ask Palin what her reaction was to McCain;s suggestion that she go down and meet his friend Mr Bono? Ryan may know.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Actually, Alaska is not isolated. It is micro Cosmo of America. So Palin probably knows who Ifill is from seeing her on the cover of the pancakes boxes when she fixed breakfast for Track and Willow after firing the chef.
Posted by: ricky | October 1, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Mack: Your right she’s no Hillary Clinton that’s why she got chosen and Hillary didn’t. Apprarently Obama didn’t think much of Hillary to choose Biden but he wanted the Clinton’s to campaign for him. If that is using people what is? We all know Obama and Nancy talked to the superdelegates to switch their vote to Obama probably telling them that Hillary can’t win.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
ricky: Why does Palin need a chef. She can do her own cooking. There are so called chef’s working in restaurants that need to go back to cooking school. If I was in her position I would let anyone cook for me. In fact, I wouldn’t even have a cleaning woman. I would clean my own house and do the laundry myself. There are people that like to do their own work and object to other people even if they have money.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
“Voter fraud..what is happening in Ohio this week.”
Same day registration and absentee balloting. Approved by the GOP legislature 3 years ago.
“How many times can they vote?”
Once like everyone else.
“Are they elegible to vote?”
Sure. People applying must submit the last 4 digits of their social sec # or their full OH driver’s license # and sign an affadavit (part of the registration form) swearing they meet the requirements to vote.
And biden and money to Iran?
He offered that up as a rhetorical question in a staff meeting.
It has since been seized upon the right wing and construed as some kind of policy position by Biden.
Gotcha journalism, fine for me but not for thee says the right wing.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
mercy: Biden has so much knowledge that he puts his foot in his mouth and has done it three or four times already. And he probably will again in the debate. So much for Biden.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
“The chef Sarah fired in fact still prepares elitist gourmet meals in
Juneau for government employees, just not in the Governor’s Mansion.
According to an item in this ADN article from 1/20/08:
“Stefani Marnon was first reassigned as a ‘constituent relations
assistant’ in the governor’s office and later to the state museum.
Earwigs report she’s finally landed where they really appreciate a
good chef: the Legislative Lounge. Lawmakers were smacking their lips
in anticipation, according to Sen. Kim Elton’s newsletter.”
Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Sarah Palin is the MOST RECENT and visible example of “white privilege” and “affirmative action” for white women. A person of color of EITHER gender with her very limited backgound and experience would never be in such a position. All of you people who have been harping on Obama’s “inexperience” and lack of readiness to be president who are now 100% behind Palin are a bunch of hypocrits. Or, as Tim Wise said: “Your ‘whiteness’ is showing.”
Posted by: Carol | October 1, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Paige: Obama did nothing in Congress but be absent about 143 times. He was a state senator and god knows how many times he wasn’t there. He’s lucky he knows what bill to pass and not to pass. Why he missed so many time has never been questioned. What would he do as president. Go on several vacation’s?
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Ryan C.,
Voter fraud..what is happening in Ohio this week. How many times can they vote? Are they elegible to vote?
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Ryan, you forgot to mention a fake electricity bill for identification will do also. Hum….
Posted by: Star Struck | October 1, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
I think she’ll do fine. Certainly not voting for her and Johnny but she’ll make it through the debate. They had to learn something after the Katie Couric debacle.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | October 1, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Obama = Dumb
Biden = Dumber
Posted by: Obama=Pelosi=Losers | October 1, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Sarah Palin is the MOST RECENT and visible example of “white privilege” and “affirmative action” for white women. A person of color of EITHER gender with her very limited backgound and experience would never be in such a position. All of you people who have been harping on Obama’s “inexperience” and lack of readiness to be president who are now 100% behind Palin are a bunch of hypocrits. Or, as Tim Wise said: “Your ‘whiteness’ is showing.”
Posted by: Carol | Oct 1, 2008 3:40:21 PM
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This US of A is full of “affirmative action” without qualifications. This “dog won’t hunt” in this case. Ob
Posted by: Star Struck | October 1, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
“Ryan, you forgot to mention a fake electricity bill for identification will do also.”
Fake electricity bills?
LOL.
Why are Republicans so eager to restrict other people’s right to vote?
Why do they hate America?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Wow Marianne Pepitone, you’ve been busy shilling for the McCain/Palin campaign today. Unfortunately, the bulk of your responses are nonsensical and incorrect, but thanks for playing.
Posted by: DebM | October 1, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
“Obama did nothing in Congress but be absent about 143 times. He was a state senator and god knows how many times he wasn’t there. He’s lucky he knows what bill to pass and not to pass. Why he missed so many time has never been questioned. What would he do as president. Go on several vacation’s?”
Mariann is so frustrated she is confusing her smears.
Poor Mariann
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Mariann:
According to Washingtonpost on Sept 27, 2008:
John McCain who has not voted since April 8, has now missed five-and-a-half months of roll calls in the Senate, during which 115 votes have been held.
According to a database created by washingtonpost, McCain has missed more than 64 percent of his votes in the 110th Congress, more than any other senator.
Posted by: vote4peace | October 1, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
“it is only an issue becuase Ifill, the MSM and the Obama campaign thought they could get away with it. Just like George Brett thought he could continue to use too much pine tar.”
You made the point that Martin waited till Brett hit the HR to do so.
You screwed up your own analogy.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Ifill’s book is now a news story today and tomorrow the day of the debate. Timing is everything Ryan C.
Posted by: geevill | October 1, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
vote4peace: I beg to differ with you but that’s not what the media is saying. The subject is about Obama missing or voting present many times over.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Team Obama wants to have it both ways: After weeks of asserting that Palin is patently incompetent, it now tries to raise the bar for her performance in tonight’s debate by providing Politico with video’s of prior debates where Palin did well against more experienced opponents.
Either Palin is the incompetent airhead that the left has portrayed her to be, or she is a worthy adversary for the more experienced Joe Biden.
Which is it?
Obviously, if Team Obama really believed that Palin was the “adorable” airhead lampooned by Tina Fey, it would not be issuing these press releases of today at all.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | October 1, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
“Ifill’s book is now a news story today and tomorrow the day of the debate. Timing is everything Ryan C.”
Yes and what is the benefit of this timing?
Two fold, either its a try a cowing Ifill to go easy on Palin or its the built in excuse for conservatives why Palin failed.
Either way its shows how little faith they have in Palin.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
“I beg to differ with you but that’s not what the media is saying.”
So McCain has not missed 420 votes for the 110th Congress?
Is that what you are saying?
“The subject is about Obama missing or voting present many times over.”
Actually the subject is Palin & debate expectations.
But if you want to discuss things, Obama voted present 130 times out of 4000 votes while in the IL state Senate. Present votes count as a no vote in regards to legislation. At least 45 of those votes were procedural budget battles votes between Dems and GOPers in the IL state Senate.
Obama has missed 45% of the votes during the current session of Congress (the 110th) which is 303 votes. In the 109th he missed 11 votes.
McCain missed 56 votes in the 109th session of Congress.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Martin: I diagree on your statement. If Obama was that good why does he have to copy the speeches of other’s. And we all know he uses them and adds word to them. Doesn’t he have a speech writer? No he is not as smart as Biden. There are a lot of lawers that graduated from Harvard but that doesn’t mean they are smart in politics. Biden knows foreign policy very well where Obama lacks it. Obama had to go for three hours to learn it. He shouldn’t need training being a senator for three years. Where have you been.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Mariann: Don’t beg to differ with me, go to washingtonpost.and tell them that THEIR stats are wrong. What a know-it-all. Palin has the right kind of supporters…birds of a feather.
Posted by: vote4peace | October 1, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Mariann, he has only been present 141 times since he took office as senator.
Makes even look worse. Hum, wonder how much time he will spend in Washington when president?
Posted by: s | October 1, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
What you are forgetting is Alaska is her turf that’s what she knows! America or the lower 48 she likes to say is not her turf! She doesn’t know the material.
Posted by: Cynthia, TX | October 1, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Did they get a fair moderator yet?
Posted by: Clinton Lover | October 1, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Ryan C: I don’t have to be frustrated because I already know there were complaints about Obama missing the senate so many times and Hillary stated it in her campaign. Are you calling her a liar? She said when the voting came up he was not at the senate or voted present many times. And you will be the one that will say poor Obama when he loses.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
she should bring up Rev. Wright.
Posted by: Clinton lover | October 1, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
If Palin wants to start the debate off even, she should congratulate Gwen the first rattle out of the box, “congratulations on your book. Hope you are successful.” The worm will turn….
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Posted by: s | October 1, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
“Are you posting from Arlington with the rest of the McCain ghost writers?”
Not even close. Now you’re getting paranoid, Ryan.
If Obama has to cheat to win, he is a loser. A country led by a bean counter using intimidation and voter fraud is not a country that will be fixing its problems anytime soon.
But you know, I think he is going to win. Ever see The Candidate?
Posted by: len | October 1, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
s: I can tell you right now what’s going to happen if Obama is elected. We all know he never ran anything in his lifetime such as mayor or governor. Yes, he ran for the senate and the only reason he won is he told terrible lies on the woman running against him and ruined her career. Biden will be running the country behind the scenes and Obama will be a make believe president. We all know he doesn’t have the skills to run this country. It takes brains and he left his at Harvard.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
“I don’t have to be frustrated because I already know there were complaints about Obama missing the senate so many times and Hillary stated it in her campaign. Are you calling her a liar?”
You seem fully aware of Obama missing votes.
What’s funny you don’t seem to express an outrage about McCain missing 100 more votes than Obama.
And I think your frustration is showing in your clumsy handling of talking points. You seem to mix them up or plain get them wrong which makes you an incredibly easy fish to shoot in a barrel full of them.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
“Yes, he ran for the senate and the only reason he won is he told terrible lies on the woman running against him and ruined her career”
Obama ran against Alan Keyes for the Senate.
Alan Keyes is many things but he is not a woman.
C’mon Mariann at least get your talking points right.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Dear Fellow American:
Never before in the history of our nation have we faced such a grave crisis: one of the most radical political figures ever to be nominated by a major party is just minutes away from becoming President of the United States.
That man is Barack Obama.
He promises to change America forever. If elected, he will do just that — but in ways you make not like.
Remember Obama is the most liberal member of the United States Senate.
He received a 100 percent Liberal Rating from the National Journal, making him the most left-wing Senator in Washington — more liberal than even Democratic senators like Ted Kennedy.
If you look at Obama’s record, you will understand just how dangerous this man is.
He even has terrorist friends he won’t denounce. One such man is William Ayers, a leader in the radical terrorist group the Weatherman Underground. The group bombed several government buildings, including the Pentagon, killing civilians and police officers.
In 2001, Ayers said he had no regrets for his actions and wished he could have done more.
The ties between Obama and Ayers are tight. Both served on two non profit boards and they worked closely together. Ayers even hosted a political event at his home for Obama.
Obama has acknowledged he is a friend of Ayers and defends his association by saying he, Obama, was only 8 years old at the time of the Pentagon bombing.
However, Obama has no explanation as to why he is still a friend of Ayers.
Obama has even been endorsed by radicals such as Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan.
No one can deny hearing about Obama’s relationship with the America-hating Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
There should be little doubt that William Ayers and Louis Farrakhan and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright are rooting for Obama — because he is one of them.
In keeping with such friends, Obama has promised to meet with radical leaders like Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad without “preconditions” even though Ahmadinejad has promised to “wipe Israel off the map” and “destroy” America.
Even radical Hamas terrorists have praised him.
“We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election,” Ahmed Yousef, senior Hamas leader was quoted by ABC radio as saying.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | October 1, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Mariann, I am in total agreement with you!!!!!!
“s: I can tell you right now what’s going to happen if Obama is elected. We all know he never ran anything in his lifetime such as mayor or governor. Yes, he ran for the senate and the only reason he won is he told terrible lies on the woman running against him and ruined her career. Biden will be running the country behind the scenes and Obama will be a make believe president. We all know he doesn’t have the skills to run this country. It takes brains and he left his at Harvard.”
Posted by: s | October 1, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
“Not even close. Now you’re getting paranoid, Ryan.”
Not really.
Just looking for reasons why you become unhinged for no reason and it would be more comforting to think you are just putting us on for the purposes of a campaign versus truly believing what you write.
One day you lament the failure of both parties and discuss conservative economic theory.
The next you are predicting blood in the streets and a reprise of the assasinations of the 60′s.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
vote4peace: I don’t need to do that and I am not an Obama supporter like you. I am a true American like McCain. Never attended a racial white hating anti-american church in my life and never would. Obama has the worst background of any candidate that ran for office of this country with his ties to crooks. True American’s wouldn’t associate with a person like Ayers who bombed three times in this country. Obama might have been 8 years old at the time but he wasn’t 8 when he became close friends with him.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
“What’s funny you don’t seem to express an outrage about McCain missing 100 more votes than Obama.”
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Ryan C, was 100 votes over the complete time McCain has been a senator? You seem to have all the stats…let’s hear
Posted by: s | October 1, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
“Remember Obama is the most liberal member of the United States Senate.
He received a 100 percent Liberal Rating from the National Journal, making him the most left-wing Senator in Washington — more liberal than even Democratic senators like Ted Kennedy.”
Why is it that right wingers can;t get their talking points right? That they need to embellish them?
Obama was rated the most liberal Senator for 2007 (when he missed 33 of the 99 votes in the criteria), his score was a 92.
He was the 10th most liberal in 2006 and the 13th most liberal in 2005.
But just like the handling of Palin, right wingers just have to inflate and exagerrate leaving themselves looking quite foolish.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
“Ryan C, was 100 votes over the complete time McCain has been a senator? You seem to have all the stats…let’s hear ”
Its during the 110th session of Congress which is the current session.
Congressional sessions last 2 years.
This current session(the 110th) includes 2007 & 2008.
During this session, Obama has missed 303 votes while McCain has missed 420 votes.
During the 109th session of Congress, Obama missed 11 votes while McCain missed 56 votes.
as stated before google washington post Congress votes. That will get you a database set up to track votes by Congress and things like voting with party.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Ryan C: This story was shown on TV and they interviewed the woman. She was even taken to court because Obama said she had double signatures and he won the case. Keyes probably campaigned when she dropped out.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Ryan C.,
I hope your play-book will be empty soon. Maybe you are part of the DNC making sure we all know the, hum, facts.
You won’t change my mind.. I, like John McCain am a TRUE PATRIOT and I LOVE the
USA.
Posted by: s | October 1, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
She may be an excellent debater – but with out knowledge on the subject at hand, you can only – bull your way – so far!!
Posted by: Ranger Phx | October 1, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
People have already made up their mind about Palin. The debate on Thursday will be for entertainment value only. Biden has far more to lose than Palin, politically, her bar is so low by now. Could there be 75 million viewers? Would that be possible?
Posted by: Steve from Danville | October 1, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
GoUSA: You are so right. Hamas will be dancing in the streets if Obama wins. And I think Obama likes Hamas. I was born and raised in this Country which is the greatest country in the world therefore I cannot understand how Obama could attend a racist, white hater, anti-american church for 20 years if he was a true american. I do know his wife belonged to a racist organization at one time. And Obama has the nerver to want to be president of this country. As a Democrat I am voting for John McCain and hope he wins the election so this country can get back on its feet again. If Obama gets elected God will have to help us.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Nat Turner: McCain don’t have to worry about Palin Joe Blow does. He puts his foot in his mouth ofter and if he does it this time it will show how little he really knows. But on the other hand Nat Biden said that Palin was a good looking women so he may be looking at her instead of paying attention to the questions or get confused in his answers.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Polls–In the primaries, Gallup said that Obama would win California by 10 points. He lost by 8. Seven other states were polled just as incorrectly.
He! He! So much for polls!
Posted by: Anna | October 1, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Well, the jury is still out on Palin, but it is not on Biden. He’s a blowhard and an imbecile. How funny it is to watch lefties savage Sarah Palin when they can’t be particularly bright themselves if they feel good about Biden. For all of his experience the guy makes so many foolish utterances that they are scarcely newsworthy anymore.
At least Palin has been in the position of facing a hostile media while having limited experience in speaking for another candidate as opposed to herself. Unlike stating your own beliefs, that’s an acquired skill.
What is Biden’s excuse?
Posted by: scott | October 1, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Danny: Are you aware that Russia is on the border of Alaska. And you don’t even know where her house is located. Check with Anderson Cooper he can tell you he went there. And as far as Katie Couric, go on line and CBS stated if their ratings don’t go up her job is under discussion. Palin’s job as governor is not. What do you make of that?
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
s: I am with you. I was born and raised in this country, love this country, and its the greatest country in the world. Evidently Obama didn’t think so when he joined a racist, white hater, anti-american church for 20 years. He would have still attended that church if it wasn’t for Wright’s video. And thank goodness that came out. But you can bet on it if Obama wins the election look for Wright, Farrakhan, Father P, Rezko and Ayers at the white house having dinner. Sometimes when you start out in life as a crook you stay that way. Obama never fooled me for one second. I am well aware of the fact that he is in this race for history making wanting to be like MLK. He should start walking in his own shoes.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Steve: I don’t know what Biden has to lose. He can’t lose what he doesn’t have and that’s the ability to beat Palin in the debate. Obama has everything to lose, the election.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Ranger: Isn’t that what Obama has been doing throughout this campaign? Doesn’t he have the people in this country fooled by his copied speeches of RFK whose book he has. If you think for one minute that Obama is going to do everything he is telling the public then you don’t understand politics. Obama wants to make history like MLK and is desperate to do that besides wanting to be president. Are you aware of the fact that this country would go into a disaster if he is elected. He lacks the knowledge to lead a big country like America. Biden would be leading the country while Obama is president in name only. Get a grip. And Palin will be Biden at his own game.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
ryan sez: “Just looking for reasons why you become unhinged for no reason…”
That’s the Gaslight ploy, Ryan. Now you’re being banal. I should think in this election of new ideas that camp would at least teach you some new tricks. That’s from 1944.
Posted by: len | October 1, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
No to Palin and McCain, we need leaders with at least half a brain.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | October 1, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Dancing around questions?… Not answering the question that was asked?
Are we talking about Palin or Obama in Friday’s debate?
Posted by: ccjjww76 | October 1, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Well lets see the 100 votes that Mccain should have. Are right here in the USA. One thing to think about is Democrats act on polls so fast before they have all the answers and Republicans sit back and wait till they have all the answers before the act that is the difference between Republicans and Democrats…
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
“Ryan C: This story was shown on TV and they interviewed the woman. She was even taken to court because Obama said she had double signatures and he won the case. Keyes probably campaigned when she dropped out.”
So in short you have no idea what you are talking about.
I know the story would you like to hear it?
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
As for Palin well humm how about a strategy or maybe its a a a a well even Obama didn’t know that one LOL… Anyway ever hurd of the dumb blonde effect well think play dumb and make eveyone take the bait and well she will make Biden look like the fool that he is she is one of the number one debaters around and she has a gift of like photograghic memory so they just think she is like a dumb blonde and she is not.
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
“At least Palin has been in the position of facing a hostile media”
What hostile media?
On TV, Charlie Gibson held her hand, Katie Couric acted like her therapist and Hannity looked like he was going to hump her leg.
Now she’s making the rounds of right wing talk radio.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
“I hope your play-book will be empty soon. Maybe you are part of the DNC making sure we all know the, hum, facts.”
Or I just hate right wing lies.
“You won’t change my mind.. I, like John McCain am a TRUE PATRIOT and I LOVE the
USA.”
Of course I won’t change your mind.
The truth is an uncomfortable thing to be ignored with the FoxNews obedient.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Media stories mean nothing to me its the facts that have been proven
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Mariann Pepitone – Actually, Obama voted present 129 times. 129 out of 4000 votes. Voting present is common practice in the Illinois State Legislature. It is used to signal approval of a bill, but may-be not all parts and/or used when their is a conflict of interest.
On the other hand, your candidate is the MOST ABSENT SENATOR from Congress. McCain has missed more votes than any other member. He even managed to beat a Senator who is battling a brain tumor for the prize.
Posted by: Paige | October 1, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
MCCAIN #1111111111111111111111111111
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
In tonight’s CBS interview, Sarah Palin could have mentioned this Supreme Court case from JUNE 2008. Keep in mind it has to do with her ‘specialty,’ the Oil Industy.
The case is called Exxon v. Baker. We will certainly be hearing more about it. NYT and a Juneau paper covered this verdict reducing the Exxon Valdez damages to a pittance. You may recall that one? The one where dishwashing detergent was used to clean the greasy oil off the birds?
“The Supreme Court on Wednesday reduced what had once been a $5 billion punitive damages award against Exxon Mobil to about $500 million. The ruling essentially concluded a legal saga that started when the Exxon Valdez, a supertanker, struck a reef and spilled 11 million gallons of crude oil into the Prince William Sound in Alaska in 1989.
Gov. Sarah Palin [said,] “I am extremely disappointed with today’s decision by the U.S. Supreme Court,” Palin said. “While the decision brings some degree of closure to Alaskans suffering from 19 years of litigation and delay, the court gutted the jury’s decision on punitive damages.”
Posted by: kravitz | October 1, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
SEXIST!!!!!!!!!!! Thats one wrong thing with this country
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
The VP debate will be moderated by Gwen Ifill who stands to gain only if Obama gets elected because she is writing a book about him that not-so-coincidentally is set to be published on inauguration day. As has been accurately pointed out “in law, this would create a mistrial.” Once again, American voters lose out because of a media that wants so bad for Obama to get elected that their risking their jobs on it.
Posted by: jillyus | October 1, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
3 young men fainted today, as governer Palin was talking to a large group of people.
Posted by: Karl | October 1, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
“Are you aware that Russia is on the border of Alaska.”
Since Illinois shares a maritime border with Canada does that count towards Obama’s foreign policy experience?
“And you don’t even know where her house is located.”
I think they still live in Wasilla.
I do know that she charged the state for basically staying at home using an account meant for business travel.
“And as far as Katie Couric, go on line and CBS stated if their ratings don’t go up her job is under discussion.”
The line on Couric is that she is a fluff journalist and is therefore not taken very seriously.
Funny how right wingers think of her as some kind of Murphy Brown character.
“Palin’s job as governor is not. What do you make of that?”
Governors face elections. If politicians could be fired at any time for ratings we would have been rid of Bush long ago.
BTW, Palin’s ratings in Alaska dropped 15 points since she became the VP nominee.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Experience is all relative – it has to be compared to something – Palin’s = Obama’s; McCain’s = Biden’s.
I’d rather have experience at the top of the ticket. If you’re honest, you’d have to agree.
Posted by: jillyus | October 1, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
“Gov. Sarah Palin [said,] “I am extremely disappointed with today’s decision by the U.S. Supreme Court,” Palin said. “While the decision brings some degree of closure to Alaskans suffering from 19 years of litigation and delay, the court gutted the jury’s decision on punitive damages.”
LOL…good one Kravitz
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Well the way I hear it they don’t have all the facts on that and well that just makes it a rumor
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
“As for Palin well humm how about a strategy or maybe its a a a a well even Obama didn’t know that one LOL… Anyway ever hurd of the dumb blonde effect well think play dumb and make eveyone take the bait and well she will make Biden look like the fool that he is she is one of the number one debaters around and she has a gift of like photograghic memory so they just think she is like a dumb blonde and she is not.”
Another victim of No Child Left Behind.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
experience well lets see I’m sure the job your in you didn’t have any experience till they hired you and trained you so another word you had to have training before you could even go to the bathroom
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
re: 3 young men fainted today, as governer Palin was talking to a large group of people.
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Whilst a young children’s choir sang praise and allegiance to their messiah – Obama.
I wonder how many of their parents have tought these children songs of praise to God, the real object of praise.
Posted by: jillyus | October 1, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
re: experience well lets see I’m sure the job your in you didn’t have any experience till they hired you and trained you so another word you had to have training before you could even go to the bathroom
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Not put so elequently or gramatically-correct, but nevertheless, I think what you’re advocating is Obama’s on-the-job training, which does not seem that appealing to me.
Posted by: jillyus | October 1, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
re: Not put so elequently or gramatically-correct, but nevertheless, I think what you’re advocating is Obama’s on-the-job training, which does not seem that appealing to me.
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Obama has to be trained as anyone elected into office will have to be. That is why they have advisers to tell them what to do.
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
I have heard that Obama has hired bloggers to scour internet sites and fill blogs with negative-McCain opinions. I understand if they can’t dispute the facts, they simply call the other blogger a “fool” or some other derogatory name. That’s pretty low for a politician who claims he’s above all that.
Posted by: Rich N. | October 1, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
But I am a McCain supporter but even he will have to have training as well hes not perfect
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
re: Obama has to be trained as anyone elected into office will have to be. That is why they have advisers to tell them what to do.
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Thanks, at least you (and Biden who said the same thing) have made the honest evaluation that Obama is so lacking in experience that he needs his advisors to make his decisions and provide him experience. No thanks. You don’t hire the fresh-out-of school Harvard MBA to run the family business. Ya know what I mean?
Posted by: jillyus | October 1, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
I hear they have Biden secluded in a camp doing mock interviews with some lucky female. I would luv to see this spoofed on Sat. night live, but obviously that would cut into our regulary scheduled Palin spoof. So we won’t see it :-/
Posted by: Jeff | October 1, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
I also heard that Obama has put truth squads in some states I just hope they arrest him
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
re: Thanks, at least you (and Biden who said the same thing) have made the honest evaluation that Obama is so lacking in experience that he needs his advisors to make his decisions and provide him experience. No thanks. You don’t hire the fresh-out-of school Harvard MBA to run the family business. Ya know what I mean?
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
jillyus,
Not everyone believes in God..
Some people believe in God some believe in Fairies others in a space man that nuke peoples souls. I believe in nonw of them…
You want to believe thats your choice I dont and dont want to read about it!
Take your god talk to your church!
Posted by: James | October 1, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
“I have heard that Obama has hired bloggers to scour internet sites and fill blogs with negative-McCain opinions. I understand if they can’t dispute the facts, they simply call the other blogger a “fool” or some other derogatory name. That’s pretty low for a politician who claims he’s above all that.”
Wow I heard the same thing but with the McCain campaign.
I also heard about the Dutch writer who volunteered for the McCain campaign and the put her to work ghost writing letters to the editor to deluge papers with fake letters to create an impression of support.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
As Joe Biden and Hillary said, Obama is not ready to be President.
Posted by: Doreen | October 1, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
I heard the mccain camp is :
In hopes of organizing a robust demonstration for the vice presidential debate this Thursday in St. Louis, the pro-Iraq War (and ostensibly pro-McCain) organization, Vets for Freedom, is resorting to offering local college fraternities hundreds of dollars if their members come and hold signs.
“I was emailing you today,” wrote Meyer, “because I am trying to find people who would be willing to hold up signs for a few hours in the afternoon this Thursday outside the VP debate site. It’s only for a few hours and you can gain a lot from it…. first off, lunch for any guys who agree to volunteer will be on me. Secondly, they will get lots of media attention! My organization did a similar thing in Mississippi last week and a ton of them were on TV. Meaning, the guys could wear their McCain gear while holding up our signs and get attention for their frat. Also, they will get to hang out with a bunch of really cool Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans.
“Lastly, and here’s the kicker…. if you guys can get us at least 20 volunteers for those few hours, my organization will make a sizable donation to your fraternity. If you use pledges you could look at it as ‘free money and free publicity’. If this sounds like something you may be willing to help us out with, please let me know ASAP!”
Reached by phone, Meyer said the total amount of cash the frat could earn was between $200 and $250 for organizing 20-plus members. She also noted that the program was a success in generating publicity during last Friday’s presidential debate.
Posted by: James | October 1, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
re:
“I have heard that Obama has hired bloggers to scour internet sites and fill blogs with negative-McCain opinions. I understand if they can’t dispute the facts, they simply call the other blogger a “fool” or some other derogatory name. That’s pretty low for a politician who claims he’s above all that.”
Wow I heard the same thing but with the McCain campaign.
I also heard about the Dutch writer who volunteered for the McCain campaign and the put her to work ghost writing letters to the editor to deluge papers with fake letters to create an impression of support.
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
You know things are bad when you have to pay for people $200-$250 to support your candidate at a VP debate!
Posted by: James | October 1, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Rich.N
Obama have a very large groop to terrorize the American people on the internet, with they’r stupid name calling and brainles remarks.
Posted by: Moe | October 1, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
“I haven’t heard anything about McCain having any truth squads in any states or anything about these so called letters”
FoxNews doesn’t like to talk abotu such things.
Here’s the ghost writers
“You can be whoever you want to be,” says an inviting Phil Tuchman. “You can be a beggar or a millionaire. A mom or a husband. Whatever. You decide!”
The assignment is simple: We are going to write letters to the editor and we are allowed to make up whatever we want — as long as it adds to the campaign. After today we are supposed to use our free moments at home to create a flow of fictional fan mail for McCain. “Your letters,” says Phil Tuchman, “will be sent to our campaign offices in battle states. Ohio. Pennsylvania. Virginia. New Hampshire. There we’ll place them in local newspapers.”
Place them? I may be wrong, but I thought that in the USA only a newspaper’s editors decided that.
“We will show your letters to our supporters in those states,” explains Phil. “If they say: ‘Yeah, he/she is right!’ then we ask them to sign your letter. And then we send that letter to the local newspaper. That’s how we send dozens of letters at once.”
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
And now for the truth squad
ABC News’ Ron Claiborne Reports: John McCain’s “Truth Squad” went into action for the first time today, denouncing a mailer it says was sent to South Carolina voters by a group calling itself Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 1, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
re:
And now for the truth squad
ABC News’ Ron Claiborne Reports: John McCain’s “Truth Squad” went into action for the first time today, denouncing a mailer it says was sent to South Carolina voters by a group calling itself Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain.
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
How can she have good debating skills, when she could not give good quick answers in previous interviews? I have good debating skills and even I can answer a quick question like “what magazines do you read?”
Posted by: my5200 | October 1, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
re:How can she have good debating skills, when she could not give good quick answers in previous interviews? I have good debating skills and even I can answer a quick question like “what magazines do you read?”
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Its a strategy to keep her expectations low till the debate. She is a great debater
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
As for the truth sqaud it is true Mccains is reacting to an issue and I believe that Obama must of been behind it I’m sure
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Not sure what is going to happen, I think Palin is a total wild card. I do predict that the McCain’s election will be won or lost on Palin’s performance.
If Palin does really well, it could pull the numbers up, especially since last week was a disaster for them with respect to PR. Still not sure why everybody thinks Bush’s tax cuts have anything to do with high risk debt trading, but oh well, that’s the way the cookie goes bankrupt! :)
If she bombs, McCain is sunk.
Pressure’s on, gettin higher…difference is..anyone? Beuller?
Just tryin to keep it light…
Posted by: Wade | October 1, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Ken
vietnam veterans against john mccain has existed since 1980 or earlier!
They protested John McCain in 2000 when he ran against Bush!
They are not pro Obama in any shape or form!
They are against John McCain look at there website they have tons of information there!
McCains treatment of Delores Alfond, head of the National Alliance of POW/MIA whose brother went missing in action in Vietnam is disgraceful. The video makes me ill!
They have there own beef with McCain and no conections or ties to Obama.
Posted by: James | October 1, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Sorry I was away for a few
Yea like I said Obama is got to be behind it all I’m sure
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Well gota go Happy Blogging see ya
Posted by: Ken | October 1, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Ken
How is Obama behind them ? ? ?
Posted by: James | October 1, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Alaska moose is looking forward to the debate. Palin will prove that she is not as bad as an idiot like Bush!
Where do the GOP find such extreme weirdos and plan to successfully dump them on Americans?
Posted by: barbie | October 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Rich N:
have heard that Obama has hired
bloggers to scour internet sites and fill blogs with negative-McCain opinions. I understand if they can’t dispute the facts, they simply call the other blogger a “fool” or some other derogatory name. That’s pretty low for a politician who claims he’s above all that.
Posted by: Rich N.
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Rich, think maybe we have at least one of those bloggers on this blog. Had hoped that his play-book would be empty soon…but guess he is going to go on into the night.
Posted by: s | October 1, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
FYI Sean Hannity isnt a journalist!
Posted by: James | October 1, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Ken said: “I have heard that Obama has hired bloggers to scour internet sites and fill blogs with negative-McCain opinions. I understand if they can’t dispute the facts, they simply call the other blogger a “fool” or some other derogatory name. That’s pretty low for a politician who claims he’s above all that.”
Very amusing REPUBLICAN BLOGGER, but what did all of you PAID REPUBLICAN BLOGGERS do after Obama won the Democratic nomination? That’s right, EXACTLY THE SAME THING against Obama! Do you REALLY think that we are so dumb as to fall for all of this nonsense? McCain is snaking faster then lead through a goose! As for your little sweetie Palin I predict that she will do well the first half of tomorrow’s debate and then implode horribly during the second half.
Posted by: WISDOM FIRST! | October 1, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
okay, those two videos prove that she has no debate skills at all. Basically, Palin is just a mouth peice. Blabbing run on sentences, not allowing others to speak. She’s just all speeches and no debate in the brain.
Posted by: urma | October 1, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Actually I was hired by Alaskans to send her back home to face the music…..
Posted by: hahaha | October 1, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Folks, I have now read where a number of bloggers have posted that they have heard that Obama has hired bloggers to scour Internet sites and fill blogs with negative-McCain opinions. Folks, this “I HAVE HEARD” is one of the oldest pr tricks in the book! It is so old, in fact, I am surprised that anyone would fall for it! Where is your proof? Where are your facts to back up your claims? Most of all WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE? Unless you can prove your accusations by verifiable evidence all you are really dong is to spread “RUMORS AND GOSSIPS.” This BTW is one of the many pages right out of the REPUBLICAN PLAY BOOK and those of you who are trying your best to spread these RUMORS are nothing more that PAID REPUBLICAN BOLGGERS! just how LOW will McCain and his followers go!!!!
Posted by: WISDOM FIRST! | October 1, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Most of the criticism leveled here against Obama demonstrates little regard for the truth about this candidate. To those who echoed Palin’s Convention speech in which she ridiculed Obama for missing votes in the Senate, I suggest you go to There you will find out that Obama voted present approximately 100 times, a mere 3 per cent of the total votes he cast.
As for Palin, the bar has been set so low for her that if she perform passably, the spinmasters will declare that she won. I don’t deny that her strong suit is going for the cheap shot – and boy does she enjoy the kill – but when asked for one Supreme Court decision that she disagreed with aside Roe v Wade, she couldn’t think of one case and proceeded to babble inanely.
This being said, I don’t think the upcoming between between Palin and Biden will change the election dynamic one iota.
Posted by: nina | October 1, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Ryan: Look up Alice J. Palmer on Google and you will find Obama challenged her signatures and two others and won. She was going to run against him. That’s why Alan Keyes ran for the senate but lost.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
So you can’t attack a pitbull, huh? It’s not allowed? She’s snide. She’s cocky. He has to be careful how he says to her? BS!!! I’m a grown woman who is appalled at this thinking.
What position will she have if McCain get’s the new position he wants. In a recent interview about the bailout, he says he always “aspired to be a dictator”!!
Posted by: Just a voter | October 1, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
I believe the reason they picked Gwen is because her book will be out on Obama and since she is a solid pro-obama supporter it probably was a setup for the purpose of Palin and no doubt to make sure she can’t answer the questions. Another problem is she is black and Obama is half black. But Palin said she is not concerned about Gwen. Obama might have to worry about Biden and his mouth.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 1, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
McCain’s voting record from Veterans for Common Sense.
Posted by: A voter | October 1, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
I hope voters gave Palin a chance to learn on-the-job training after McCain wins, the same way Obama supporters want for their man.
Posted by: young_voter | October 1, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Mariann Pepitone
You wrote:
“It probably was a setup for the purpose of Palin and no doubt to make sure she can’t answer the questions.”
Palin should be able to answer the questions regardless of the person asking the questions! Unless she is stupid!
Obama faced Fox’s Bill Oriely
You also wrote:
“Another problem is she is black and Obama is half black.”
So what if she is black ? Can only Blacks interview Blacks ? And White interview whites ? Its a VP debate they are both white the interviewer is black!
Its just skin color babe!
Posted by: James | October 2, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Sarah Palin is going to surprise everyone tonight, especially those who are under estimating her and think she’s not very bright! Joe Biden especially should not under estimate her! If he does it will be at his own peril! He had better be ready for battle because, make no mistake about it, she will be!
Posted by: carlyonsue | October 2, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
Debates are what Sarah Palin is good at. She might not be very good at giving interviews but, if you’ve seen the debates that she wss in when she was running for governor, you know that debates are where she shines. She is very good at debating. Joe Biden had better be ready!
Posted by: carlyonsue | October 2, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
There is no way to know if the bloggers of this post are really women but, good job slamming Palin. Keep putting her down and maybe you will get a nice little pat on the head by the patriarchy. But that is all you will get.
Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin are getting the same reaction that the suffragettes received. If we don’t stand together and vote for a woman, we will never have to option of having our choice of woman candidates. Or maybe you “ladies” of this blog don’t want woman in power at all.
I hope at the debate, there are questions asked about how to best govern instead of all of these senate/lawyer questions. I have great confidence in Palin’s ability to govern. She has shown that she will fight for the people unlike Obama who has never made a “change” in his life. He can promise the world but he can not deliver.
I am a female, ex-democrat who is voting McCain/Palin
Posted by: emily | October 2, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am
“Its just skin color babe!”
Posted by: James
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Oh no it ain’t babe…liberal, liberal.
Right on, Mariann. Go Sarah, this female is on your side..all the way!!!!
Posted by: s | October 2, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Voting for someone just because she’s a woman is plain stupid and an insult to me and other women. The reason ditzes love her is that she’s so much like them a pretty face and no brains. She fiascoed at the UN, with Katie Couric. McCain used poor judgement putting country last and winning the White House first.
What happens when she has to deal with world leaders? We are the laughing stock of the world.
This ex Republican is voting Obama.
Posted by: seenitallx9 | October 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
What is happening tonight is not a “debate”. They will not even be interacting. And Ifel will probably not even be asking “the followup question” that Palin can never answer. She will ask the usual questions and Palin will have her answers memorized. Unless you ask her to actually think, she does ok. She probably will not be a train wreck tonight – the woman can probably memorize just fine. Incredible that we’re even having these discussions about someone who is all flash, no substance.
Posted by: Janet Greene | October 2, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
I’m offended that those of us who see that the emperor has no clothes (Palin, and even McCain to some degree) are being accused of being part of the Obama campaign. I find it consistently unbelievable that this woman is still seriously being considered as a viable future president by some. I guess if you can string together a sentence, and have read a book, you are “elitist”. Well, my son, who is in grade 2, must be “elitist”. I think he knows more about the world around him than this VP candidate. Sad. So very, very sad.
Posted by: Daria Hornell | October 2, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
VP Palin could not answer almost all the questions raised by Kate Couric. Do you think that Kate Couric is stupid? We know the meanings of questions that Couric asked and the type of answers that Palin gave. Palin could not answer the questions at all mark is 0%. Now we’ll compare the the level and depth of the questions that the moderator asks and the responses of the both candidates. It will tell us who provides the aubstances and the counter attacks. We are not idiots!!! There is no sexism or racism here- it comes back to the strength of argument, reasoning and the logic, not the gender or race. We know that some idiots (those in fox box – Martha & Hans in particular favour creating an outstanding image for Palin – absolute nonsence!) Ability to answer questions is not one-off event like the debate – it is something that Palin has to face whether she is xx, xo, xxx, xxxo or what ever in her sex chromosomes.
Posted by: ramya | October 2, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
This short article has proven to be precient. After a slightly choppy start, Gov. Palin is starting to shine again. She is clearly more effective when she is allowed to speak what’s on her mind and heart directly to the American people. She has also proven herself able to stand up to a well-versed politician with a long history in Washington, with no dimming of her brilliance. She may have a little way to go yet, but she has been sorely underestimated in this campaign season.
Posted by: Go Palin Power '08! | October 2, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Joe Biden is the clear winner of tonight’s debate. Sarah Palin, you don’t fool me. You’re Dubya in a skirt. I’m a well-educated woman who expects a national leader to have a wider vocabulary and a progressive view of the world than Sarah Palin. You did not deliver that — but you did deliver a lot of slang, and some inappropriate winking on national TV.
Posted by: small town girl | October 2, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
THE REPLUBLICANS HAVE THE MORE COHERENT TICKET BY FAR…I think their ticket shows more honesty and an actual about-face from Bush-Politics, therefore refreshing…Besides that, Sarah Palin is HOT !!! I am voting McCain and Palin…I hope you are too…MD
Posted by: markrph | October 2, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Governor Sarah Palin needs to learn to pronounce “NUCLEAR” (not nukiller) “IRAN” (not Aayran), “IRAQ” (not Aayrak” before she can qualify for a job as a stenographer or a typist or a public relations assistant of just a pretty escort for the next president of the United States.
Posted by: Wonk | October 3, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
What an entertaining episode of “Gidget Goes to Washington!”.
Posted by: jill | October 3, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
What is it with McDaddy McCain and ex beauty queen wannabes and dumb barbie dolls? I was kind of wondering if this is the maverick Republican’s idea of affirmative action? Speaking of action… well.. I wonder if the McCain campaign is offering any cabinet posts to ex playboy bunnies?
Posted by: Joann | October 3, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Gov Palin is a great debater. Some women who hate the Gov., because they are so jealous of her.
McCain/Palin will WIN in November regardless the polls show.
Posted by: beatrice | October 3, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
If McCain/Palin win the next presidential election, it would mean the the election rigging machinery which was used so effectively to steal the 2000 election from Al Gore has been perfected by the Republicans.
Posted by: joann | October 3, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm