Stephanopoulos: McCain Camp Struggles to Find the Right Tone
ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos reports: John McCain may be trailing behind Barack Obama in the latest polls, but the McCain campaign remains optimistic about the chances for a McCain comeback over the next two weeks of the campaign.
However there is a struggle inside the McCain campaign about the tone he should take, sources tell ABC News.
Some former McCain advisers want to see McCain take a more positive tone on the stump and give up on some of the attacks he’s been making against Obama.
They point to the campaign tactic adopted by incumbent Republican Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota, who is locked in a tough fight for his Senate seat against comedian-turned-politician Al Franken. About a week ago, Coleman pulled all of his negative campaign ads and now he’s tightened up the race there.
One of the fiercest fights for Obama and McCain is in the once reliably red state of Virginia. McCain campaigns in Prince William County Saturday, where he hopes to erode Obama’s support in Northern Virginia. Obama campaigned in Roanoke, Virginia today.
Polls show McCain is trailing Obama in the battleground state of Virginia, which hasn’t voted for a Democratic president since Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964.
McCain aides concede that the Republican candidate can’t take the White House without winning Virginia.
But Obama has invested heavily in the state and has three times as many campaign offices there as McCain. He has also been outspending McCain in television advertising 4 to 1 in the last couple weeks in Virginia. The McCain campaign is looking to close that spending gap in the coming days — holding out hope for the traditionally conservative-leaning state.
Obama is even giving McCain a run for his money in West Virginia.
While Obama lost West Virginia to Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary by 40 points, Obama television ads in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Virginia have spilled over into West Virginia — tightening up the race there.
The Obama campaign has decided to put about $1 million of TV advertising in West Virginia to win those five electoral votes.
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Hopefully, the unethical tactics used by the McCain-Palin campaign have backfired. Hopefully, the United States people are smarter than believing the grossly distored facts and lies told by the Palin-McCain campaign.
HOPE-FULL me: OBAMA-BIDEN 2008
Posted by: Terresa | October 17, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
…distorted…
facts and lies by the McCain-Palin campaign.
Posted by: Terresa | October 17, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
The right tone would be for McCain’s camp to stop lying about Obama. It’s gotten ridiculous. Negativity and lies turn people away from your message.
Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 17, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Captain McCain and the talking parrot have no idea how to steer the ship.
Yes, the talking parrot is entertaining enough, but it sure has learned a bunch of hateful talk.
Posted by: Obama/Biden - the ONLY positive choice | October 17, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
The GOP only knows one political tactic…scare the #### out of the masses. Then convince them all that Republicans are somehow a safer pick.
Its like watching the rats go down on the Titanic. They’re hitting every panic button they can as they realize the end is near
Posted by: Buddy Knuckles | October 17, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
This is a lock for Mr. Obama. Mr. Farrakhan knows.
After all, this is a “divine” intervention – even WashPost calls it “preternatural”.
Farrakhan Says ‘New Beginning’ For Nation of Islam
CHICAGO (AP) ― The Nation of Islam, a secretive movement generally closed to outsiders, has planned a rare open-to-the public event at its Chicago-based headquarters in what the Minister Louis Farrakhan deemed a “new beginning” for the group.
Posted by: Onlooker | October 17, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
How does the media let Palin slide when she says she was “glad she was found innocent of doing anything unethical” the very day all the headlines read
PALIN FOUND GUILTY OF ABUSE OF POWER AND VIOLATION OF ETHICS?
Both McCain AND now Palin have Violation of Ethics charges. And those Republican “reformers”?
Posted by: Team Integrity - GOP style | October 17, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Buddy Knuckles ;;;scare tactics?…you are funny
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 17, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Oh no! I be afraid of that Louis Farrakhan. He ain’t no real Americun like me.
You’re a pinhead.
Posted by: Get a life | October 17, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
you liberal idiots think Bush/McCain/Palin have a monopoly on lying , cheating and stealing…proves that there are a lot of deaf, dumb and blind liberals out there.
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | October 17, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Please check on report on Keith Oberman’s show tonight, Friday, that Obama’s general legal counsel has requested that the Justice Department investigate the White House and the McCain/Palin Campaign for interference in voter registration. Obama’s general counsel said that they had requested that the Special Prosecutor who is investigating the firings of the attorneys at the Justice Department add this allegation to her current investigation.
Posted by: Cheryl Vickers | October 17, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Bush used the words “terrorism” and “9-11″ constantly to scare Americans while he and Cheney pursued their own private agendas. So much so, it became the subjects of late night jokes after a while.
McCain and Parrot are trying the same old thing. Obama is the “secret terrorist” who wants to “steal the election” from country loving patriots.
Sad part is 40% of America is still falling for this crap.
It’s the “We know we suck, but listen to this accusation” strategy.
But when you realize McCain hired all of George Bush’s campaign staff, it’s not that hard to figure out.
Yah, he’s not George Bush. Sure he’s not.
Posted by: McCain IS McSame | October 17, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Yeah, don’t worry about Louis Farrakhan. Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright have asked him not be a hater.
=)
Posted by: Johnson | October 17, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Oh I want McCain to continue his nasty attacks, his smears, all his Ayers and Acorn and Obama ties. I want him to continue to incite mob-mentality, to keep asking who Obama really is. It’s not too late to ask that question. I want McCain to keep spreading untruths, half truths, and to continue putting Palin by herself in any interview possible single in front of the cameras. I want McCain to keep focused on attacking Obama, the nastier the attack ads, the better. WHY? Because this will continue to backfire, and blow up in his face and blow up his entire campaign into tiny bits. This will ensure his LOSS!! This is all he has, and can not focus on the core issues our nation faces, he puts the campaign first, himself first and the nation is well, somewhere in the mix. That is exactly what this warmonger will do IF he is elected. He deserves to lose and lose badly the way he has conducted this campaign. His rage, and ill temperament has done well to show who HE REALLY IS!
Yes, He is no George W Bush. HE IS FAR WORSE!!!
Posted by: jaMar | October 17, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Ooooo, is this where the name calling and wild accusations portion of the “discussion” begin?
McCain is going hyperbolic in his negativity. Obama is milking it. And the media eats it all up.
Welcome to reality America, it may scare you. oops, just got you to vote GOP
Posted by: Buddy Knuckles | October 17, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Too much is at stake America to put someone in the White House that even remotely resembles George W Bush. And with McCain voting 90% of the time WITH HIS PAL GEORGE DUBUA, can you afford another four more years of this? Look where we are, look at the shape this nation is in, your 401K, your job, the number of foreclosures, the meltdown of our economic structure is enormous. This all happened under George Dubua’s Watch. And it still is not fixed, $700BILLION DOLLARS LATER! We have two major wars just brewing. We are still spending $10 mill a month in Iraq, a war Bush lied about. No weapons of mass destruction, ever found. Bin Laden is still not found. WAKE UP! Put your prejudices aside. Vote for the right man, not a black man, green man, blue, man or red man, but the right man, and that man is OBAMA. Obama transcends race. His mother was WHITE. HE was raced by WHITE GRANDPARENTS. This is not a white or black issue. It is about all our issues and our issues are very serious, heading for a full blown Depression and tons of despair and suffering. We can not afford another four years of the same FAILED POLICIES and OLD IDEAS.
McCain was right, he is no George Bush, he is however far worse!
Posted by: jaMar | October 17, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Buddy Knuckles, Take your meds or see someone about your paranoia. If George W hasn’t converted us to the United States of Evangelicals, I’m pretty sure Obama (who happens to be a Christian) won’t convert us to anything either. George W gave it his best shot but much like anything he tries to succeed at, he didn’t quite make it. Thank G-D!
Posted by: ceinscottsdale | October 17, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
I just read that the Republican Party of Virginia has circulated a mailer bearing a dark-skinned face and the words “America must look evil in the eye and never flinch.” Are you kidding me ? A person with dark-face is evil ? What are McCain’s advisor thinking to allow this disgrace to happen. All kind of impression are they giving to this children in Virginia ? This is out right “DIRTY and DIGRACEFUL!!!!!” How can one vote for McCain with this stuff. Don’t tell me he doesn’t know…even if he doesn’t know, he is STILL responsible since he is the person in the ballot. DISGRACE…..what is next ? a KKK office at the state house of Virginia ?
Posted by: farshs | October 17, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
The right tone would be to stop the hate rallies. It reminds me of the 1960s Civil Rights Era.
Palin won’t realize how much damage she’s done until election day. The young people voting today dont want division, they want unity.
Posted by: Lucky Lucy | October 17, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
If John McCain has any integrity left–and it’s open question whether he does–he’ll abandon the creepy negative robocalls and all the other desperate, dishonest crap and begin to focus on his own best arguments. At this point, though, McCain’s talking points all boil down to some version of “that other guy is a poo-poo head.” Who’s running that campaign, some nine year old with an attitude?
Posted by: Kate | October 17, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
While Stephanassolus wants McCain to be positive and nice to Obama, Obama is blasting away against McCain and Palin. The media has picked who they want to be President and that one is Obama. Why else are Obama and the Democrats allowed free rein and are not scrutnized one iota? I just wonder how well paid off the media is.
Posted by: Bill | October 17, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
John Sidney McCain III has reinvented himself so many times, it’s hard to keep track. But it’s always fun trying to guess what version of John McCain will show up next week!
Posted by: sawrad | October 17, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
With all the brouhaha about the polls, I decided to start on of my own. I started a blog and ask these questions:
Does everyone realize there are four choices in this election?
You can vote:
For McCain – McCain is the best candidate in this election and deserves to be elected.
Against Obama – Where this might seem as a vote for McCain; its really not, it is a vote to keep Obama from being elected; no matter who the other candidate is.
For Obama – Obama is the best candidate in this election and deserves to be elected.
Against McCain – again this might seem like for Obama but it really isn’t.
Go to my blog and vote: http://nebraskavoice.blogspot.com
The results so for are interesting…
McCain – 56%
Obama – 44%
Posted by: NebraskaVoice | October 17, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
To me the issue is not so much whether senator McCain strikes a positive tone, but if he has something substantive to say.
Banging on about Bill Ayers wasn’t substantive by a long shot. Empty scaremongering about a US senator is less than substantive too. Especially coming from a candidate who took an airhead as running make.
The last debate actually was about policy issues. Even if it was “Joe the Plumber”. That’s what we need to hear about. If senator McCain has something substantive to say about policy issues, I’m sure we’re willing to lend him our ear.
Posted by: Golodh | October 17, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Maybe they can pull within enough points to steal the election.
Posted by: karen | October 17, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
With the help of the media McCain will lose by a wide margin…
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Aging workforce in the USA.
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Posted by: SML | October 17, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
No way should McCain kiss Obama’s butt when Obama’s spends billions a day (unprecedented amount EVER) in negative ads towards McCain.as well as Obama & Biden hurling insults against even JOE the Plumber, an american citizen who DARED to ask the “messiah” a question that propelled him into the limelight for embarrassing Obama and bringing to light Obama’s socialist economic plan of taxing the small business person, as well as “spreading the wealth” which is code for his communist view of the world (except his own Wealth I’m sure!!!!) This from a guy who won’t even send his STARVING brother who lives in a hell hole a friggin Dollar. Obama is the elitest who wants the american people to live in poverty. His economic plan – TRICKLE UP POVERTY.
MCCAIN needs to stay on task as he was in the last debate – where he wiped the floor with Obama’s lying butt
Posted by: setojfree | October 17, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
So the candidates have been campaigning for almost 80 weeks, and yet McCain and his supporters believe he can re-invent himself and the campaign in the final two weeks and that should be enough to win the election?
If he stops his gutter smears and goes positive that will undo his gutter smears, his selling of his soul to the 2000 Bush Campaign Brain Trust?
Posted by: Jonze | October 17, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
VIVA OBAMA! VIVA ESTADOS UNIDOS DE AMERICA, AMERICANOS WILL BE REAL GLAD WHEN ESTADOS UNIDOS DE AMERICA BECOME THE FIRST ISLAM COUNTRY IN THE WEST!
Posted by: Arsenio Cortez | October 17, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Oh, yes, Bill Ayers! RONALD REAGAN had no problems with Bill Ayers. So was Reagan a terrorist? WALTER ANNENBERG had no problems with Bill Ayers. Today’s Republicans must see Ronald Reagan and Walter Annenberg (and many current Republicans currently working with Bill Ayers) as “terrorist pals”, too. How about all the kids who’ve taken courses under Bill Ayers? Oops, kids, you’re now “terrorist pals” too!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
I think it’s too late to save this Titanic of a campaign. They hit the iceberg weeks ago.
Posted by: Homeowner | October 17, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Is the McCain/Palin campaign for real? This campaign has turned into a “Gimmick A Week” sideshow. How can you connect with voters, when you can not even connect with a message? Maybe it shows the true substance of a campaign that expected to win on personality and the experience card. How much experience and leadership does it show when you can not even connect with more than just your base of voters. I respected McCain in 2000, I still do…but somewhere he got lost. Is this the kind of administration we, the American people, can expect if he is elected?
Obama/Biden ;-)
Posted by: annazette | October 17, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Senator Obama has picked up some amazing endorsements the past few days: Obama endorsements: Washington Post, Denver Post (it is the paper owned by Dean Singleton, who is a big-time Republican booster and personal friend of George W. Bush), Murdoch-Owned London Times, Chicago Tribune (very conservative paper who has always endorsed the Republican candidate for president), Boston Globe, LA Times (who has not endorsed ANY presidential candidate since 1972), and the trend is on! Additionally, Senator Obama has won the endorsement of conservative talk radio host Michael Smerconish, who has filled in for Glenn Beck, Scarborough, and O’Reilly.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
America has been kept blind by the “media”.
World Net Daily, Aaron Klein
“Sen. Barack Obama is a Muslim of Kenyan origin who studied in Islamic schools and whose campaign may have been financed by people in the Islamic and African worlds, Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi said during a recent televised national rally” (watch the rally).
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78309
“There are elections in America now. Along came a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia. His name is Obama,” said Gadhafi in little-noticed remarks he made at a rally marking the anniversary of the 1986 U.S. air raid on his country.
Posted by: Ann | October 17, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
While the election of the first half black President is exciting the implications of the choice of Barack Obama can be devasting for the future black candidates and the whole democratic party. All the hoopla of Clinton faded and and his reelection was based on good economy that was was the start of predatory lending. He did not have a good first year in office and unfortunately Obama will not have a good four years and will be limited to one term if elected. His economic policies simply do not make sense for this current economy not to mention a society that includes capitalism. Liberal taxing and increase spending will only create more contraction. While spending can effect an economic downturn, there are billions already earmarked for the bailout and billions that have been spent in the defense industry for years employing many workers in the US. A more moderate candidate would pull this economy out of this recession but the social tax and spend policy will throw it probably into a depression.
Posted by: jamesferrel | October 17, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Just heard a great stat on NOW on PBS that Democrats may win military vote. They just said that soldiers overseas are making campaign donations to Obama 5 times more than to McCain, running 5 to 1! This is totally awesome, are Democrats going to win military and veterans this time? Along with a possible endorsement by Colin Powell on MTP Sunday, this campaign has been a total game changer, unbelievable! Obama/Biden ‘08!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Unfortunately if you don’t have a record by which to measure a person’s convictions then you only have the people he surrounds himself with and his word.We all know that the people he surrounds himself with-Ayers,Wright, Meeks, Rezko,Farrahkan etc have one common theme they dislike or want to harm America. Then the question becomes why did he choose these people to associate with? I can honestly say I don’t know anyone that blames America for aids or calls Jewish people the gutter religion, kills cops, or leaves poor people living in squalor while Rezko gets rich. Isn’t it just common sense to research everything about Obama? And why would you want to stop someone from questioning these associates? Why is it ok to rip Joe the Plumber apart for simply asking a question,but it’s not ok to question everything about the man who is trying to be elected the POTUS. I don’t think of it as being negative I see it as being responsible.
Posted by: amazed801 | October 17, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
2 Ann:
Honey, you need to get REAL facts. ;-)Obama’s mother is White, his father is Kenyan…so YES he is of Kenyan heritage. He is not MUSLIM, but, if he was…SO WHAT!! There are Muslims in America. They vote just like Christians. Muammar Gadhafi was trained by the US military (which is something no one will tell you)…as were many military leaders in the world.
Posted by: GEN X | October 17, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
“Sen. Barack Obama is a Muslim of Kenyan origin who studied in Islamic schools and whose campaign may have been financed by people in the Islamic and African worlds, Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi said during a recent televised national rally”
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Ann – and this relevant because?
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
See Chicago Tribune’s article by John Kass: “Daley reins in radicals–the Chicago Way.” http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-mk-bd-12-oct12,0,5393672.column
I encourage you to read the whole article, but here is an excerpt: “Ayers is a terrorist—the narcissistic son of privilege and clout—whose father, Thomas, was the boss of Commonwealth Edison and a friend of the late Mayor Richard J. Daley. As a leader of the ultraviolent Weather Underground, Ayers admitted to helping bomb the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon in the 1970s. He should have been sent to prison. Instead, Chicago political clout allowed him and his wife, fellow radical Bernardine Dohrn, to magically join the payrolls of universities here.
Obama says he was 8 years old when the bombs went off. But he was a grown man when he sought Ayers’ political blessing, and when they worked on the same education projects.
“They’re friends. So what?” Mayor Daley said in August.”
The article is very interesting. You owe it to yourself to read it so that you can vote with your eyes open.
Posted by: Jiaenglish | October 17, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Going positive huh? Well about 2 hours ago I got a recorded message from the McCain camp telling me about Obama’s terrorists involvements… real positive yeah… same ol’ same ol’
Posted by: Julie | October 17, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
amazed801 – do not open a Pandora’s box – the spirits will hit you in the face! There are many, many unsavory characters in McCain’s past and present including G. Gordon Libby, a campaign team lined with lobbyists, a campaign manager still associated with Fannie and Freddie. And if associated people are so important to you Republicans, then count Ronald Reagan, Annenberg, many Republicans currently working with Ayers, and of course, all of those students who have taken classes from Ayers. All of them are terrorists according to your definition.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Jiaenglish – interesting —- considering the Chicago Tribune endorsed Senator Obama for president today – the first Democratic endorsement in the history of the newspaper.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
What does it matter? Go positive. Go negative. It’s all just a case of what Obama has properly called “erratic” behavior by McCain. Do we really need this?
Posted by: Kathryn | October 17, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
I sometimes wonder, if people are so concerned about Ayers…why is he still teaching students? Shouldn’t someone be afraid he is training future terrorist? But, as I suspect, this is just an attempt to smear Obama and not true concern about Ayers or his possible future influence on young minds. ;-)
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: GEN X | October 17, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
If he was a muslim – so what?
I guess I look at what muslim’s are doing across the globe – right now – and I have some major trust issues (and that is putting it mildly).
Just because you treat people fairly, doesn’t mean they will return the favor.
Posted by: JJ | October 17, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
The World Series is over; and the score is 3-0 Obama over McCain. The old clumsy fox failed to out smart the fierce young cub. And the young rosy pitbull was kick in the assk by the old macho soldier.
Posted by: Sutter197 | October 17, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Sandy- Why did he lie-what is he hiding? That would be the significance–but why wouldn’t you be questioning Obama instead of Ann?
Posted by: amazed801 | October 17, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
I’m sitting here cracking up at this article…Now John McSame’s advisors want him to go postive now…What a joke…I guess all of those lies, viscous attacks and fear tatics wasn’t working…so now they want him to go postive…I think its a little too late for that…My grandmother always told me, If you dig one ditch for sombody, you better dig two..because you’re going to fall right into the other one yourself….John McSame and the whole republican party are a trip…..
Posted by: Gwen | October 17, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
“Sen. Barack Obama is a Muslim of Kenyan origin who studied in Islamic schools and whose campaign may have been financed by people in the Islamic and African worlds, Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi said during a recent televised national rally”
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The truth is that Obama is an American born in Hawaii to a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya. With his mother & step father he attended school in Indonesia. The schools of choice for ACADEMICS were a Catholic school and a Muslim school, of which he attended both for 2 years. So if attending the Muslim school for 2 years of his youth means that his campaign “may” have been financed by them… then I guess using the same logic we could say that because he attended a Catholic school for 2 years that his campaign may have been financed by the Pope or the Catholic church??
Posted by: Julie | October 17, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Tell Mc cain and his bomb ticking running mate and his creep of a wife who lies …Today again she slammed Obamab wife ohhhh their side is the dirtiest I have ever seen .OPPPPPPPPPS go look in a mirror. Your side has and still is first and foremost the
dirtiest I have seen,and sweetie even your face lift says you have seen a few..
Posted by: indp voter | October 17, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
If he was a muslim – so what?
I guess I look at what muslim’s are doing across the globe – right now – and I have some major trust issues (and that is putting it mildly).
Just because you treat people fairly, doesn’t mean they will return the favor.
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What you are doing is making a blanket judgement. Not ALL Muslims are bad or terrorist. That would be like saying all Americans love war, just because we happen to be involved in two wars right now. Also, if America has such problems with Muslims and Muslim countries…why do we support them by buying oil? Are we not supporting terrorist states and thereby paying for the attacks that are leveled against us? Just a question.
Posted by: GEN X | October 17, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
amazed801 – simple. Gadhafi? Gadhafi? is Ann’s source. Give me a break!!!!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
PAC’S AND LOBBYISTS AIDED OBAMA’S RISE—BOSTON GLOBE–SCOTT HELMAN–AUG, 9, 2007 But behind Obama’s campaign rhetoric about taking on special interests lies a more complicated truth. A Globe review of Obama’s campaign finance records shows that he collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from lobbyists and PACs as a state legislator in Illinois, a US senator, and a presidential aspirant.In Obama’s eight years in the Illinois Senate, from 1996 to 2004, almost two-thirds of the money he raised for his campaigns — $296,000 of $461,000 — came from PACs, corporate contributions, or unions, according to Illinois Board of Elections records. He tapped financial services firms, real estate developers, healthcare providers, oil companies, and many other corporate interests, the records show.
Posted by: amazed801 | October 17, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
I still do not get the “better the devil (republicians)we know than one we don’t most of the right wing nuts act like Obama is being elected King and if he gets to be President(I pray he does) that he will have absolute power. Get real. Whomever is elected President does not get Carte Blanche to do whatever they want. Why do you all insist on taking this country down the same road and hope things will get better. Really????????? How are you today with you money and jobs more secure. I know that I am not and it is time for a change in this country. Intelligence should win over right wing fear and hate. McCain is not different than George Bush but I am sure a lot of you still think Bush is doing a great job.
Posted by: Linda | October 17, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Why would Obama lie–again we have reason to question his truthfulness and character.
Posted by: amazed801 | October 17, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
McCain has changed so many times. We don’t know who he is. He is like a snake shedding his skin.
Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 17, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Oh yeah…McCain is unethical because he is telling the facts about Obama the Fascist marxist and friend of terrorists.
Posted by: chattyway | October 17, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
amazed801 – have you bothered to do any research on McCain’s PAC and lobbyists connectiions? I would suspect the answer is “no.” And do not forget that McCain’s campaign team is indendated with lobbyists and former lobbyists. And Rick Davis – ties to Fannie and Freddie! Do not throw stones – they have a habit of coming back and hitting you where it hurts.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Extra! Extra!
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 09:31:00 10/18/2008
WASHINGTON — The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times, two of the most influential US newspapers, backed Barack Obama on Friday to become the next US president, praising his leadership abilities despite his relative inexperience.
Obama also picked up hometown support from the Chicago Tribune — marking the first time since its founding in 1847 that it has come out for a Democratic candidate.
Posted by: Sutter197 | October 17, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
I think that McCain feels boxxed in. He is left defending states he should not have to defend. The economic times just do not give him much edge, which he might have had if the economy was good and everyone was concerned about Iraq. His campaign has not done him a service and Tucker Bounds needs to find a job at McDonalds after this. ;-)
Obama/Biden
Posted by: annazette | October 17, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Michelle Obama ordered lobster apps, two whole steamed lobsters, Iranian caviar, and Champagne at the Waldorf Wednesday afternoon when she was there with O for a meeting.
Posted by: The Surge | October 17, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Look out – chattyway is back! He/she never makes any sense so easy to ignore.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
The Republicans are the ones who have destroyed America, so why are people afraid of Obama and Ayers. Republicans have thrown us in a recession, caused other nations to hate us, speaks of going to war with Russia, Palin hate rallies to divide the country, slept while New Orleans drowned. They are the Anti-Christ and terrorist. Obama/Biden could never top that.
Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 17, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
SO then it really doesn’t matter who we put in the office of the POTUS?? WOW
Posted by: amazed801 | October 17, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Sutter197 – and do not forget the Denver Post – it is the paper owned by Dean Singleton, who is a big-time Republican booster and personal friend of George W. Bush.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
If Joe the Plumber has no license, then he is not a plumber. ANother Republican lie. He doesn’t even have a business.
Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 17, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
People who think that Obama is a dangerous terrorist Muslim are either extremely paranoid because of guilt, or liars. There is no third alternative.
Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 17, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Paula Lacey – and remember Sarah Palin -the secessionist?
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
I am not saying that all muslims take part in the violence we hear in the news all the time, and have even seen here in our own land – what percentage behaves this way – I have no statistics on that either. That said I still wouldn’t knowingly give the reigns of our Government to one especially now, when numerous muslim leaders have stated that they hate America.
Why take that chance?
I hope that Barack Obama is everything his supporters think he is. If he is elected I hope to be surprised at what a great AMERICAN PRESIDENT he turns out to be. I am however willing to be honest and say that I am very suspicious of this man.
Posted by: JJ | October 17, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Military will definitely support Obama because not only they are patriotic, but also they know the right from wrong. They love their country and answer the call from their commander in chief to sacrifice in Iraqi War. Now that they realized there is no WMD and that they have been misled; they are aware that only Obama can help them out from the mistake handed to them by Bush & Cheney.
Posted by: Sutter197 | October 17, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Electoral college: Friday 10/17 – O-382, M-156 – Ohio Still Close; Virginia Getting Stronger.
And the pull-outs continue in the McCain campaign. Republican sources in Colorado and Washington say that the National Republican Senatorial Committee plans to pull out of the state by next week, an acknowledgment that its independent expenditure resources would be better spent on defense elsewhere.
And the Congressional races? Love this one!!!
Elizabeth Dole, the former American Red Cross president, one-time White House hopeful and cabinet member for two GOP presidents suddenly finds herself in an uphill race against a little-known Democrat for a Senate seat that has been in Republican hands for 35 years.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
More rocks or truth–
“We will not take another dime from Washington lobbyists,” Obama said in a speech June 5, repeating a theme he has main a key to his campaign. “They will not fund my party.”
“So Barack Obama, who says that he doesn’t want to have any lobbyist money in his campaign, is having a lobbyist bundle money from large corporations, many of which are clients, for the convention that’s going to nominate Obama,” said Steve Weisman of the Campaign Finance Institute, affiliated with George Washington University”
Posted by: amazed801 | October 17, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Sutter197 – do not know if you saw my previous post – heard on PBS today that that soldiers overseas are making campaign donations to Obama 5 times more than to McCain – 5-1 – SUPER! And if Colin Powell does endorse Senator Obama on Sunday – Senator Obama may just pull off the active and veteran vote!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
McCains campaign has been much more than negative – nasty, ugly, mean, downright lies and half truths.Statistics show the highest rate of college grads are democrats, so whats left must be what all the Republicans think are taking handouts? Oops think the lower class is being used (brainwashed) by the Republicans for their own means. Look up the word liberal in the dictionary, it means free thinker, we can check things out and sort the truth, without following blindly and believing whatever we’re told.
Posted by: SmileAlready | October 17, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Terressa,
You call it unethical, fact is, both sides have engaged in political “negative” attacks, of the nature of “politics as usual”. There are two problems with this: 1) the state of the economy makes negative political attacks repulsive, since the economic state is even worse, and 2) Obama said he was not about “politics as usual”. He does have an ethics problem on this one.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 17, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
chattyway, you forgot to say whiteytapebirthcertificateodinga.
TIME TO CHANGE THE BONGWATER.
McCAIN = FAIL
Posted by: Ed from MA | October 17, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Sutter197
I think that you are right. My brother is in the Army and he has served five times in Iraq, with less than a year at home. I served three times in Iraq and Qatar. People forget the military is made up of humans. Most of the people who enlist only want to get money to go to college. They have families they miss and being in the desert is no joke (camel spiders, sand storms, crappy tents, and dust on everything). I KNOW McCain will get his fair share of votes for the military, but, Obama will get his fair share as well.
Obama/Biden
Posted by: annazette | October 17, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Oh geez, based on his remarks John McCain and family are in the same economic group as I am –not rich(HFS)!
“Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s wife, Cindy, reported $4.2 million in income for 2007, nearly $2 million less than she reported the previous year, according to tax returns released by the McCain campaign Friday. Mrs. McCain, who files her taxes separately from her husband, paid $1.1 million in taxes, a tax rate of about 26 percent. She reported nearly $530,000 in itemized deductions.”
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | October 17, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Jennifer Donahue! Really! I can’t see him. Where is he? Would you point at him for me? Do you mean George W Bush? Please! This won’t work. He has been long gone, gone and gone. Nice try Jen!
Posted by: TheRealThing | October 17, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Just found out something very interesting. Justice Antonin Scalia is a next door neighbor to William Ayers. Scalia was appointed to the bench by Ronald Reagan. William Ayers was appointed to the Annenberg Challenge by Walter Annenberg. Mr. Annenberg is closely tied to Ronald Reagan. I guess This makes Walter Annenberg and Ronald Reagan as guilty of “palling around with a terrorist.” Why would Ronald Reagan have anything to do with this detestable individual. This whole line of guilt by association is crazy. How in the world can McCain run this nutty sham when he’s closely associated with G. Gorden Liddy? How Can Palin walk this line, especially after last week she was found to have abused her power by a committee made up of a majority of her own party? I am on a board with a man who is an alcholic. Does that make me a drunk? Two are of the opposite party of mine, does that make me a Democrat? It just seems stupid to yell, your pants are dirty when you are standing waste deep in mud. I was leaning toward McCain but not anymore. This will be my first vote for a Democrat and considering the fact that I have lost $18,000 in my retirement account, it probably won’t be my last.
Posted by: greg | October 17, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
To paraphrase Harry Trumans supporters, “Give’em Hell Barry.” To paraphrase Truman’s response, “Obama is telling the truth and they think it is hell.” …………..
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/17/giveem-hell-barry/
Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | October 17, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
amazed801 – and McCain is running his campaign on your dollars and mine.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
And the Republicans continue to dig their own graves – In the 35 minutes following Republican congresswoman’s Michelle Bachmann’s appearance on Hardball, Bachmann’s opponent in MN raised $30,000 and it is still going up. Bachmann is definitely a nut case!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
More Rocks–Jesse Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.
Jackson warns that he isn’t an Obama confidant or adviser, “just a supporter.” But he adds that Obama has been “a neighbor or, better still, a member of the family.” Jackson’s son has been a close friend of Obama for years, and Jackson’s daughter went to school with Obama’s wife Michelle.
“We helped him start his career,” says Jackson. “And then we were always there to help him move ahead.
Posted by: amazed801 | October 17, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Face it, it’s kind of hard to find the right tone when your tone deaf!
Posted by: Bea | October 17, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Mccain needs to pick a strategy and stick with it. Changing every week will only enforce that whole ‘erratic’ and ‘desperate’ thingy, especially with less than a month left. Also, continue to keep Palin away from the MSM (its obvious why). But even so, it may be one tough climb.
Posted by: caribbeanSnow | October 17, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Why does Sarah Palin wear eyeglasses? She doesn’t read newspapers or magazines, much less thoughtful books. She can’t even name them. Oh, I get it! She needs them for reading teleprompters and cue cards her handlers provide her with.
Posted by: rhabdo | October 17, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
UPDATE!!! Bachmann’s opponent now has raised $41,280 dollars!!!! After Bachmann’s rant on Hardball, there are fundraisers springing up all over the Internet for her Democratic opponent!!!! Keep it up Republicans – you are doing a GREAT job of sinking your own ships!!!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
You people are saying Obama is a Muslim terrorist…same time, you are saying that he has been going to Rev Wright’s church for 20 years. Which one is ture ? make up your mind !!! You said he is associated with Ayer because they served on the same broad. Please don’t forget Biden serves in the senate with Strom Thrumond (asked to maintaining segragation), Jesse Helms (did not view blacks as full americans) Robert Bryd (known member of the KKK). But guess what, McCain is also a senator and serves the same senate as these racists. So by association, McCain is a racist ? You ignorant people say Ayer killed americans and Muslims must be terroists who also kill americans…Helms, Thurmond and Bryd are americans but guess what they hurt/killed their own kind also…
you guys said Obama is not a true american because of a Kenyan father ? Who are the true americans ? The native indians !!! Even McCain is irish..his grandparents were not true “americans”…The GOP has been scaring american public for 7 years. What have they done ? they spent 10 billion dollars a month in Irqau…do you know how many people they can help with 10 billion dollars..they are helping those poor souls in middle east…what about the people in US…it took 5 days to help people in New Orleans under the republican government…they can invade Irqau in less time but they can not get water, food and medicines to New Orleans…How can u vote for the republican party !!!!
Posted by: Farshs | October 17, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
McCain says he will be nicer but Palin is still rabid. She says small towns are where “real” patriots are, where “people who really love this country live”. EVERYONE loves this country Sarah, so close yer trap. . and stop being so mean to those whales in Alaska, they have a right to life too. Bad enough you hate polar bears and wolves, but WHALES? She’s crazy. . you betcha!
Posted by: waya | October 17, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
why is it every time the republicans are exposed to be bullies, liars, and thieves they can NEVER admit it and instead find some way to twist it around and say “well they did it too” but usually only come up with something a fraction of the depth of immorality that they just did?… you will NEVER hear a republican say, oh yea, we screwed up!… they are JUST like bullies on the playground who are, now in this election, being put on permanent ‘time out’… grow up neocons, your goose is cooked
Posted by: earthisnotflat | October 17, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Death threats and vandalism against ACORN
That’s the Palin syndrome. McCain does nothing.
Where are the big high black boots and the swastikas?
Posted by: Bruce Becker | October 17, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
so lets give the ‘straight talk’ on mccains never ending flip-flop of campaigning policy… they dig the dirt and stoop to unprecidented lows trying to smear obama with lies and half-truths, then when this doesnt work they consider going nice?… face it, it will be HARD WORK for republicans to be nice… republicans are the biggest bunch of corporate welfare crybabys you could ever imagine… and any attempt to be ‘nice’ is just fake
Posted by: earthisnotflat | October 17, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
And the Republicans continue to dig their own graves
Posted by: sandy
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Obviously you have not looked at the latest polls. What happened to your 11 point lead, hah?!
When Obama said the other day, “Don’t get cocky”, I am sure he was addressing many “naives” like you.
Posted by: Natasha | October 17, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
NYT just reporting that Senator Obama raised more than $100 million in September,a figure that would SHATTER fund-raising records. Great effort Senator Obama – from all of us little people in America who are your supporters!! Read it and weep, McCain!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
To invoke the name “Muslim” with terrorism is unfair. According to the Web Dictionary, A “Muslim” is “A person who submits to Allah and practices the religion of Islam.” and the word “Islam” is defined as “The monotheistic religious doctrine as revealed by the Muhammad, the Prophet of Allah.” There are many sects of Islam and all believers are called Muslims. There may be some sects for some reason believes in “jihad”, etc., but to refer all Muslim as bad people is really unfair. I believe people have the freedom to choose their religion as our founding fathers advocate. Remember most religions teach compassion, mercy and loving kindness. Let’s open our mind and heart, and create a harmony among our humanity. Then there will be peace and prosperity in this temporal world. Keep in mind, we are all Creator’s children.
Posted by: Sutter197 | October 17, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Natasha – electoral college map for Friday,October 17th: Senator Obama -382, McCain-156. Ah, your point is???? And, WHO is the naive one?
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum, Rudy Guliani, Palin, Ann coulter, Micheal Malkin, Hasselbeck from View, Hannity, O’Reily, Rush, Laura Ingraham etc.. all these people have something in common. Knock on their head and they make lot of resound. Now grandpa McKlan joined their ranks too.
Posted by: RJ2008 | October 17, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
McCain risks losing much of the white racist vote if he stops the swiftboating.
Posted by: AJ | October 17, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Sarah Palin rallys are virtually undistinguishable from a Klan rally. The only thing missing are the white capes and hoods and burning crosses.
Posted by: AJ | October 17, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
In spite of Money in Politics,
Obama’s MOST DAMAGING problem among many is his stance on Abortion.
He is THE MOST PRO-ABORTION PRESIDENTIAL candidate in the modern history. Obama’s stand on abortion is SO EXTREME that even Nancy Pelosi, Clinton, Boxer, Kennedy DO NOT SHARE with Obama’s postion. Obama, as a Illinois state senator, VOTED four times AGAINST providing medical care to NEW BORN-ALIVE BABIES, letting them DIE, while ALL DEMOCART SENOATORS including Nancy Pelosi VOTED FOR the identical federal bill, BORN ALIVE INFANT PROTECTION ACT.
Obama also supports PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION, whose procedure is SO GRUESOME that people EVEN DIDN’T WANT TO SHOW THE PICTURE OF ABORTED BABIES who could live, if the mother CHOSE a delivery room instead of an abortionist. There are people who SURVIVED an ABORTION and one of them speaks AGAINST Obama.
Fellow Citizen, Obama is SUPPORTING BRUTAL KILLING OF PRE-BORN BABIES without ANASTASIA and DENYING IMMEDIATE MEDICAL CARE TO BORN-ALIVE BABIES.
If we vote for Obama, we are COOPERATING IN EVIL. History will JUDGE US!
Posted by: Geon Lee | October 17, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Oh, will you morons just shut up about Ayers, ACORN and every other lie and deception the right is vomiting out? Enough is enough – all YOU morons want is to smear an honest guy running for president at his expense just so your Republican moron erratic candidate and his hockey mom pinhead can get votes. You are a bunch of pathetic fools that are the REAL unpatriotic non-Americans. Anyone with a tenth of a brain realizes that all of these stories about Obama’s “relationships” and “associations” are nonsense – you can connect ANY of them to ANY Republican, including McCain.
I WAS a Republican. I am ashamed of what this party has put this country through. Eight years of a failed, miserable administration. And the dirtiest campaign in history. Are the rest of you that blind to see that? Even the sharpest conservative minds, including George Will and Christopher Buckley, know EXACTLY what the GOP is doing – destroying themselves and the rest of this nation.
If any of you had any REAL morals, tact, intelligence, common sense, etc, the choice would be a lot clearer when you press the buttons or punch your cards in the voting booth on November 4th. The only choice left is Obama, period.
Posted by: zed | October 17, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Does McCain dare quote Keetings grandson
Joe the Plumber (AKA Samual). Joes dad went to jail for 40 months over the Lincoln Loan affair of his fatherinlaw… keeting…. he was vice president of the company…
something smells in…..
Posted by: orsleery | October 17, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Oh, I get it! She needs them for reading teleprompters and cue cards her handlers provide her with.
Posted by: rhabdo
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At least she does not “plagiarize” other people’s speeches like Joe Biden!
History lesson: The history behind current events.
The Write Stuff?
Why Biden’s plagiarism shouldn’t be forgotten.
http://www.slate.com/id/2198543
Posted by: Natasha | October 17, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
McCain can kiss it Goodbye, along with his hick from Alaska. No matter what Karl Rove (criminal), Bush, Chaney and the rest of the Dishonorable, Corrupt idiots can help the Whiney McShame NOW.
Posted by: sue | October 17, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Geon Lee – you sound as ignorant as the Republican talking heads! Listen to something besides Rush and Fox – Senator Obama does not support partial birth abortion – that claim has been debunked so many times I cannot believe you neo-cons are still pushing that! And your post about this topic is verbatim from Fox News!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Hopefully, the United States people are smarter than believing the grossly distored facts and lies told by the Palin-McCain campaign.
Dont bet on it Terressa – alot of them believe the grossly distorted “facts” as spun by Sens Obama and Biden. What a depressing choice this year :(
Posted by: undecided2012 | October 17, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
I, like many, hoped McCain would run the honorable campaign he promised. I do not understand how he thought the outright lies, and then lying about lying, would work for him. Frankly, he’s not good at it. He’s a respectable man who needs to stop patronizing us and get a real message and stick to it. And when he said he ‘screwed up’ on Letterman, I wish he had the honesty to apply that to Palin – which is what everyone, including Dave, was thinking.
Posted by: MIguy | October 17, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Natasha – and Biden admitted his mistake – a ONE time occurence. McCain and Palin lie very day and NEVER admit when they have been wrong!!!! Your point is?????
Palin, the secessionist; McCain, the Libbyest.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Positive ? HA!
Pull your robo calls first.
I will honestly move out of America if McCain is elected.
All they have left is personal attacks and it won’t work.
Posted by: Matt | October 17, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Natasha – electoral college map for Friday,October 17th: Senator Obama -382, McCain-156. Ah, your point is???? And, WHO is the naive one?
Posted by: sandy
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Ahaha..ha! The electoral map according to the “24-hour-news-for-dummies-networks”! Ahaha…ha!
Not only you missed today’s and yesterday’s Gallup Polls (especially the traditional one which screens “likely voters” you also missed todays news because the buzz words were: “the tightening of the polls”.
Listen to That One…”don’t get cocky”, most importantly – stop being so naive as to speak of “mickey mouse” electoral maps! The left-wing-liberal media had declared Obama the winner in many states that he LOST to HILLARY!
Posted by: Natasha | October 17, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
@Matt,
Please, don’t move out. We must stay here and fight for this country. If the outcome of this election favors McCain, God help us all. But to move out would be a form of giving up. Losing someone who shows tact and intelligence like yourself would be bad. So stick around, man!
Besides, I really don’t think you will have much to worry about anyway. ;)
Posted by: zed | October 17, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Yes, I did go to the following blog as suggested:
http://nebraskavoice.blogspot.com
Guess what? I was voter # 284, so I guess these “results” aren’t too predictive, are they? I think that would be called a “small sample.”
Posted by: Tessmarie | October 17, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Obama Couldn’t Be Cleared
10.17.08
By George H. Wittman
The lowest-ranking enlisted persons in the Armed Forces of the United States who are expected to handle sensitive matters in the scores of jobs involving classified equipment or written material must be investigated before obtaining their security clearance. Could Barack Obama gain such a clearance?
To begin, the clearance applicant would have to complete a detailed personal history form that includes, if necessary, government access to all health and education files. This is the starting point of all security investigations. Top Secret clearance involves a field investigation rather than the Secret version that is usually limited to a “name check” that is a basic police and public information file review. For the TS clearance an investigator will visit the home neighborhoods and work place sites of the applicant in search of supportive and/or derogatory references.
If the clearance is extended further into the handling of information of such importance that it requires a compartmented distribution, the field and document investigation is pursued with considerable vigor over a lengthy period of time. Nuclear and other sensitive technical or political matters fall into this category.
In all cases, whether on the lower level or up to the most sensitive intelligence, the background of the applicant’s personal and business involvement forms the nucleus of the initial phase of the investigation. The people with whom the applicant associates lead the investigator to personal connections and matters relative to the individual’s character, beliefs and past acts appropriate to matters of security.
Eligibility for clearance at all levels is directly influenced by the people with whom one associates. Yes, who your friends are and have been does count — a great deal. This is true, of course, in many types of police investigations where suspicion is adequate reason for further inquiry. In matters of security clearance, past associations often can mean the end of the process rather than just the beginning.
Considering Barack Obama as a candidate for a top secret security clearance status with a full array of compartmented clearances, one has to be cognizant of the fact that there is considerable evidence of associations and even assistance from individuals with past criminal records or who have expressed anti-American beliefs. Obviously admitted domestic terrorists William Ayers and his wife Bernadine Dohrn, as well as recently convicted felon, Antoin “Tony” Rezko, fall into this category.
There is no possibility that a Top Secret clearance would be awarded to a member of the Armed Forces whose background included such associations. An intelligence service clearance for the handling of highly classified material would be totally out of the question.
IF THERE IS SOME hesitancy to accept that Barack Obama’s associations would have precluded his obtaining a TS clearance with compartmented information access, it should be realized he would have had to pass both a polygraph test and a personal psychological evaluation. What are the chances of his being willing to take these tests, to say nothing of his passing, in light of his refusal even to make his educational records available?
It may be deemed unfair, but a child of an American mother and a foreign-born non-U.S. citizen father always receives additional scrutiny. So does the fact that questions have arisen concerning the source of funding for Obama’s law school education. According to a well-researched article by Kenneth Timmerman (Newsmax), Obama was assisted financially by Khalid al-Mansour through the latter’s rich Saudi contacts. Mansour has been referred to as a “Black Nationalist and a Black Muslim” who was a mentor to the founders of the radical Black Panther Party of the 1960s.
All of these matters would have arisen in a normal security clearance. The harsh truth is that the United States is willing to accept presidential candidates like Barack H. Obama who could never gain a Top Secret clearance if he was simply a U.S. Army enlisted man. And yet Obama wants to be Commander-in-Chief. Something is wrong here!
The American Spectator
http://www.spectator.org/archives/2008/10/17/obama-couldnt-be-cleared
Posted by: Natasha | October 17, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
How many of the republican voters really think in their hearts that a grumpy old guy with 7 houses and 13 cars will sit in the white house and be interested in solving our economic problems. The day he said that the FUNDAMENTALS OF OUR ECONOMY ARE STRONG, many people thought he has no clue on economic matters. What they missed is, McCain was also implying that HE DOESN’T WANT TO BE BOTHERED ABOUT IT AND HE JUST WANTS TO GET THE ISSUE OUT OF HIS WAY QUICKLY. Whether Obama will increase taxes or not is debatable but I can tell for sure that IF he does increase, it will be only to invest in our health care, education, infrascruture and other critical areas of the economy to jump start it. As for McCain, he will raise taxes too, despite all that BS he says. Some important points to note here. McCain will start a new war. He is least interested in Iraq or Afghanistan wars. He thinks they are Bush’s wars. When he does, he is going to come on TV and say that to fight his new war, he needs little patriotism (taxes) from Americans to fund his operations. The most likely target will be Iran and Joe Lieberman will be at his side to make sure there is a war and it is Iran. The difference between Obama and McCain is, Obama wants to serve this country whereas McCain wants to prove something by having his own war. Our country cannot sustain one more experiment by one more Republican who is a mirror image of Bush. Just look at McCain’s team. It’s like he doesn’t even need transition period or process. His team is already in the white house and just few additions from his lobbying group. One can expect a new war by the end of 2009 if McCain’s becomes President. I bet any Republican supporter here can contest my claim honestly.
Posted by: RJ2008 | October 17, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Honesty, experience, and a record of accomplishment will triumph over empty promises, a lackluster record, and little, to no experience.
McCain/Palin ’08
Posted by: LJ | October 17, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
He’s made his bed now he’ll have to lie in it. It’s going to be a long time before anyone forgets McCain’s dirty tactics.
Posted by: pamp205 | October 17, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Obama tax proposals suggest that if your profit or income is over a quarter of a million you will be taxed─ not your net worth of business. What’s so complicated about that? What did Joe the plumber did not understand? The Republicans know that part of their strategy that they deployed in those previous elections to deceive Americans was “No tax” mantra. John McCain has been chanting that “No tax” mantra furiously. The Republicans are as usual are trying to confuse and scare people. Scaring people is an important part of Republican strategy for number of years. We all know with that style of Republican politics where we are right now. We all know that Republican politics and policies have devastated our country to the point of complete collapse that our government had to “nationalize” the entire financial service system in order to prevent mass destruction of the entire economy of America! How can you possibly do more damage than this? The Republicans are responsible for every bit of it. So when McCain chants his “No Tax” mantra again just like his predecessors did, people in this country are running for cover. The Republicans in general are very desperate for power to govern, yet they have proven over and over that they are thoroughly incompetent and too corrupt to be of service to America. The Republicans are poor managers and guardians of our nation. They are narrow minded and incompetent group. That’s become they are based on regions of the country that is still very provincial and unsophisticated to understand the issues that we face as a nation. And you saw during the last debate McCain was throwing out the same old same old “baits” that hooked many Americans in the previous elections. Remember “No taxes” “Small government” “No regulations” were familiar chants of Republican candidates for many decades now. McCain campaign even found a man named “Joe” to do the job for him. In the years gone by American voters thought that Republican really wanted to make America strong and prosperous. People took Republican’s for their word. After all these years in power after the colossal devastation that Republicans have left behind that will take Trillions of tax dollars just to repair are the damage, Republicans have become like a plague eating away America! With narrowness and demagoguery, ideology and provinciality they have darkened America’s future. The Republican politics and policies have done deep and long lasting ruin for all of us. Remember, George Bush even wanted to “Privatize” social security? Just like George Bush, John McCain is also desperate and dangerous. What the Republicans know how to do well is to deceive voters. They know how to bait you, with such platitudes as “Small government, “No regulations” “No taxes” just like old Ronald Reagan did. We have seen this kind of damming politics infest our country since Ronald Reagan, who gave legitimacy and respectability to all sorts these crack-pots of right wing. Now, as you can see after all these years in power the nuts have brought America down to her knees. Remember all the talk about “Government out of our lives” “No taxes” “Balanced budget” All of us Americans have swallowed these right-wing ideological baits going back to the time since Ronald Reagan. All this was handy work of Republican strategists like Ed Rollins, Lynn Noffsinger, Lee Atwater, Karl Rove─ who were bound on winning elections no matter at what cost. Their slash-burn politics brought hordes of provincial, incompetent and corrupt Republican legislators to the both houses of the United States Congress. These people must be held responsible devastating our country. Isn’t there a law somewhere in our books that hold people who cause public harm responsible for their actions? And we all saw how America’s self styled “maverick” John McCain really became Karl Rove-Bush-Cheney Republican in the last debate. Whatever little respect people had for John McCain was gone after his last debate. People found him to be a desperate man, often presenting his points dishonestly, in fact saying outright lies and frequently exaggerating, above all spinning about without having a clear argument. McCain’ exaggerations about Joe the plumber illustrate a important point about him He was full of bitterness and complaints. I love America too much to vote for “new” John McCain─ the Bush-Cheney-Karl Rove—Republican John McCain. It’s going to take nothing short of another American revolution to rid of the decay and devastation created by the Republicans since Richard Nixon. Nixon was helped by a plumber named G. Gordon Liddy, remember? Now, a plumber named Joe, who doesn’t have a plumber’s license has come to John McCain’s aid. This time American people are not going to deceived by the “Tricky Dicks.” America─ say goodbye to Republican incompetence and chaos. We have been dangerously falling behind among other nations due to Republican politics and policies. Enough is enough! I predict an Obama/Biden landslide!
Posted by: elytis | October 17, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
The American Spectator:
I guess a guy like Bush who avoid the draft using his dad’s connections and ditch the military can be good enough to become President and have access to secret files then?
McCain was associated with a former terorist too and he has Keating 5. How does that qualify him to become the President??
Posted by: RJ2008 | October 17, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Heard McCain on Letterman last night stammering away on his association with Liddy. Liddy a terroirist who was convicted of multiple felonies along with plotting to assasinate a reporter and once said (about shooting at the FBI)…aim for the head to make sure you get them. This is Mc’s friend. The one who Mc said he was proud of. You repubs are such hypocrites. Hide those eyes but if Mc wins you’ll open them and find yourself being ruled by Nazis.
Posted by: pamp205 | October 17, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Poor George S. is having to put in some incredible hours propping Obama up to get himself back to the White House. His reports/commentary have become laughable.
McCain/Palin ’08
Posted by: LJ | October 17, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Natasha – laugh all you want – you will laugh out of the other side of your mouth after election day! :) Polls have never been reliable indicators or does that fact escape you – the polls fluctuate like the wind. The indicator to watch is the electoral college – that is how the president is elected. Senator Obama is WAAAAAAAY ahead in electoral college votes. Every electoral college tracker has Obama in the lead, and by a substatial lead, and these trackers vary only a few points of each other.
And the “tightening of the polls” rhetoric – tv and cable news have ratings – remember those? Their revenue drops if they call a blow-out for Senator Obama – money is still the bottom line. No “close” race – no revenue. GEEZ! How long have you been alive to not know that!!!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
The press continues to report on Obama’s “questionable acquaintance” with Ayers and Wright. What I don’t understand is why there is no reports about Todd Palin’s association with membership in the Alasak Indepence Party. This is a group that has ties to hostile foreign government (Iran) and has members who do not consider themselves American.
Todd Palin is a former member and Sarah, has spoken at their conventions on their behalf many times. Why is no one raising this fact in the media? Were Sarah Palin to become VP the issue would have to be dealt with. Could the Palin’s be given security clearance under these circumstances? This is an organization that wants to secede from the United States. Anyone who is a member of this party and their associates(Sarah) deserves to brought to the attention of the American people.
If Obama’s ties to Ayers can be repeated over and over in the press why isn’t Sarah Palin’s assocations being given equal time?
I demand equal time for Sarah Palin’s associates to be discussed in the press too.
Posted by: Marlene | October 17, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
LJ,
So, you would still vote for a guy with empty promises, a lackluster record, and little, to no experience?
BTW, could you please tell me what EXECUTIVE experience McCain got that Obama doesn’t??
Posted by: RJ2008 | October 17, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
I used to believe in Republican values of integrity, a concrete clear continuous platform & caring about this country in a traditional sense and focusing on a free economy. Even after Bush wrongfully called the energy crisis “California’s problem” and promised a war on terror of “Diplomacy” and my kids after school care program was cut I still voted for him just because we hadn’t been attacked again and I figured we were in trying times & I should give him the benefit of the doubt (the fact that his opponent was a loony didn;t hurt either). But after letting Pakistan get away with Bin Laden on it’s soil for nearly 8 years and top down economics becoming a clear failure I was thinking maybe I’ll consider a Democrat and was glad to hear Obama’s rational voice on those issues & I agree with Obama that Iraq was a waste of time when Iran & Pakistan & Syria are far more threatening to us & our friends. Now I am so disgusted with GOP tactics & strategy in this election & the economic devastation that has occured on their watch that I’m thinking about not only voting Obama, but also registering Democrat for the first time ever. There’s just nothing at all good about the Republican party anymore!
Posted by: Dugese | October 17, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Natasha,
Trust me. If polls numbers are down for Obama, it is because the BS coming out of McKlan/SHALLOW PALIN camp is working on morons like you. That’s what Bush did in 2004, didn’t he? Everytime I see Bush giving that clownish smile on TV, I get a feeling that he is laughing at those people who voted him in 2000 & 2004, not me.
Posted by: RJ2008 | October 17, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
It really does not make a difference who you vote for in this election. Both candidates are making promises that they and the government cannot keep. Obama is going to cut all our taxes (except for the rich of course who already pay more than the rest of us), give us all health care, pay for higher education for all, solve the enrgy crisis, etc, etc. and then he blames Bush for a huge deficit. Where will all this money come from?? McCain is not sure from one day to the next what he wants to do. He promises to cut spending and then says the government should buy up mortgages. Somebody name one program the government has instituted that has actually worked well. Both parties are to blame. This country became great because government stayed out of the way while honest hard working people carried this nation forward. Answers will come from individuals and busineses that are creative not from the government. It would be laughalbe if it were not so sad that the economic crisis was created by the government (both parties) and now the government says we must support it while it fixes it. That is like inviting the arsonist back to put out the fire he started. Look at New Orleans – the only progress made in that city after Katrina has come from volunteers and private business, not from the government. All of you who keep posting how the government will fix everything are part of the problem – quit expecting the government to help you and get out and help yourselves.
Posted by: ms1236 | October 17, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
I am wondering if Michele Bachmann is related in any way to Joe McCarthy, the famous politician from Wisconsin in the 1950s whose Red purge campaign threw our country back into the Dark Ages.
Posted by: teddymaniac | October 17, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
The right tone for McSame/Pain is to Get Out of Politics.
Posted by: kathie | October 17, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
When the first Bush qualifications; such as team captain for baseball, basketball and student president, the youngest air figher in WWII, 58 combat missions and one that he got hit and picked up by a submerine. He was liason for China and director of the CIA. He was Ambassader to the UN. He was a senator. He understood the NATO cooperation. He was qualified to be president and commander-in-chief. Barrack Obama is not.
Posted by: lotman3 | October 17, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
teddymaniac – do not know if she is related or not – howevever, since her insane rant on Hardball, her opponent has raised $69,702 in campaign funds from people on the Internet!
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
What I am saying is we can not vote into our country, a Marxist socialist president.
Posted by: Lotman3 | October 17, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
I forgot to mention that reading all about who is associated with who and all the name calling is better than the comic section in the paper. Many of the posts contained in this section is proof that evolution is a myth.
Posted by: ms1236 | October 17, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
There he goes, changing his stance ago…well it’s a little too late for that.
Posted by: Independent John | October 17, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
President Bush is OK.
Posted by: Lotman3 | October 17, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
BREAKING – McCain Is Using The Same Robocall Firm To Smear Obama That Smeared McCain In 2000!! More evidence of McCain’s absolute and utter lack of decency or integrity.
And another tidbit: Embattled Republican Sen. Susan Collins is calling on John McCain to stop paying for automated phone calls. “These kind of tactics have no place in Maine politics,” said Collins spokesman Kevin Kelley. “Sen. Collins urges the McCain campaign to stop these calls immediately.”
Of course, McCain is the “maverick.” No concern for others in his party – only himself! It is only fun and games, smearing and lying and destroying people’s lives…
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Read this to get to know the real John McCain.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
Posted by: Sarah | October 17, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Obama’s economic position is much stronger than McCain.
Check this out form CNN senior business correspondent :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/17/ali-velshi-speaks-about-c_n_135642.html
Posted by: RJ2008 | October 17, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Fraudulent voter registrations and moving voters from blue to red states or toss up states all these acts are raising the suspicians of attack on democracy , do not go well for a free and fair voting.
Every one should review these attacks on democracy.
Posted by: wageearner | October 17, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
You people keep saying McCain plays dirty,negative campaign.
Open your eyes and unplug the earplugs!
Obama paid ACORN $800,000
yeah,,go register dead people,prisoners double votes.
That’s legal, huh?
Posted by: Fakebama | October 17, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
I have heard that 2 to 5 percent of whites might not vote for Obama because he is black. (that is racists). I have heard that 95 percent of blacks will vote for Obama (that is really racist).
Posted by: Lotman3 | October 17, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
This is for Natasha since she loves polls so much!
Barack Obama has taken a slight lead with white independent voters for the first time in the presidential race, positioning him to capture a key demographic group that has eluded recent Democratic nominees, according
to a Politico analysis of independent voting patterns.
According to Gallup’s weekly average of some 6,400 registered voters, Obama now holds a 45 percent-43 percent edge over Republican John McCain with white independents. About eight in 10 independents are white.
Should Obama’s support hold, he is positioned to become the first Democrat to win white independents in a two-man race since the advent of exit polling.
As recently as last week, McCain led within this group by eight percentage points. His lead was as high as 16 points in mid-September.
Posted by: sandy | October 17, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
The indicator to watch is the electoral college – that is how the president is elected
Posted by Sandy
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Miss Naivetee: We do not need lessons from you on how the President is elected (have you graduated from High School yet?). Yes, Mini, the polls are just a tool and so is the …CNN electoral map that you have been watching! Hahahahaha!
The fact is that you are assuming that John King’s electoral map is accurate in order to predict your victory from now! You are more NAIVE than I thought!
Posted by: Natasha | October 17, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
I forgot, ABC only lets liberal views really be heard.
Posted by: Lotman3 | October 17, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
All McCain/Palin rallies are divisive. Obama promotes unity. He gets my vote!
Posted by: Recovering Republican | October 17, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
This is from today’s Washington Poster Editorial endorsing Sen. Obama for president, the concluding statement: “We think he is the right man for a perilous moment.”
Posted by: leighg1 | October 17, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
rj2008 – You may want to find information from some other source than the Huffington Post. It is a biased favoring liberal ideas as any source you could ever find. Do some research and find some non-partisan sources. Even if huffinton get information from outside sources it will always heavily favor liberal thinking. If you understand the economic polices of each candidate just explain them yourself!
Posted by: ms1236 | October 17, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Extraordinary endorsement. This is the first Democrat endorsed in the history of the Los Angeles Times, and the first presidential endorsement they have made since 1972:
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It is inherent in the American character to aspire to greatness, so it can be disorienting when the nation stumbles or loses confidence in bedrock principles or institutions. That’s where the United States is as it prepares to select a new president: We have seen the government take a stake in venerable private financial houses; we have witnessed eight years of executive branch power grabs and erosion of civil liberties; we are still recovering from a murderous attack by terrorists on our own soil and still struggling with how best to prevent a recurrence.
We need a leader who demonstrates thoughtful calm and grace under pressure, one not prone to volatile gesture or capricious pronouncement. We need a leader well-grounded in the intellectual and legal foundations of American freedom. Yet we ask that the same person also possess the spark and passion to inspire the best within us: creativity, generosity and a fierce defense of justice and liberty.
The Times without hesitation endorses Barack Obama for president.
Our nation has never before had a candidate like Obama, a man born in the 1960s, of black African and white heritage, raised and educated abroad as well as in the United States, and bringing with him a personal narrative that encompasses much of the American story but that, until now, has been reflected in little of its elected leadership. The excitement of Obama’s early campaign was amplified by that newness. But as the presidential race draws to its conclusion, it is Obama’s character and temperament that come to the fore. It is his steadiness. His maturity.
These are qualities American leadership has sorely lacked for close to a decade. The U.S. Constitution, more than two centuries old, now offers the world one of its more mature and certainly most stable governments, but our political culture is still struggling to shake off a brash and unseemly adolescence.
…But for all the excitement of his own candidacy, Obama has offered more competence than drama.
He is no lone rider. He is a consensus builder, a leader. As a constitutional scholar, he has articulated a respect for the rule of law and the limited power of the executive that make him the best hope of restoring balance and process to the Justice Department. He is a Democrat, leaning further left than right, and that should be reflected in his nominees to the U.S. Supreme Court. This is a good thing; the court operates best when it is ideologically balanced. With its present alignment at seven justices named by Republicans and two by Democrats, it is due for a tug from the left.
…Obama inspires confidence not so much in his grasp of Wall Street finance, but in his acknowledgment of and comfort with his lack of expertise. He will not be one to forge far-reaching economic policy without sounding out the best thinkers and practitioners, and he has many at his disposal. He has won the backing of some on Wall Street not because he’s one of them, but because they recognize his talent for extracting from a broad range of proposals a coherent and workable program.
…We may one day look back on this presidential campaign in wonder. We may marvel that Obama’s critics called him an elitist, as if an Ivy League education were a source of embarrassment, and belittled his eloquence, as if a gift with words were suddenly a defect. In fact, Obama is educated and eloquent, sober and exciting, steady and mature. He represents the nation as it is, and as it aspires to be.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Natasha – I compare several electoral college trackers – and by the way, CNN only has 277 electoral votes for Obama -the other trackers are much higher – from 374-382. Sorry, try, again.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Sandy wrote: Blah blah blah (as usually)…”This is for Natasha since she loves polls so much! Barack Obama has taken… Blah blah blah”
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I suggest that you disclose your sources – that is if you do not want to be accused for plagiarism or be found in violation of “copyright laws” (do you know what those are?) Please provide links to your sources.
Oh! I know… you have been taking lessons on plagiarism from Joe Biden!
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Talk of wrong doing is not negative, can’t keep shut when people try wrongful means to win votes. Keeping quite is a also a sin against democracy.
Posted by: Wageearner | October 18, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
I have a question for all the anti-abortion crowd. As what point was an fetus ever asked whether he or she wanted to be conceived?
I was never given a choice and given what I have seen, I would have opted out. But the same nut cases don’t even sanction the right to die except when they bundle up young people and send them to war.
We live in a crazy place. Thankfully, death gives us all an exit. If you think life is sacred, then just consider the life of the bug you just sprayed or squashed for no particular reason.
Posted by: sexoflove | October 18, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Nightline just did a piece on McCain’s robocalling – it was very critical (and mocked how hysterically alarmist the ads sound) and ended with “the next time the phone rings at dinnertime, don’t believe everything you hear.”
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
People wake up. Especially all of you GOP zombies… You should take note if George Will and Peggy Noonan have concerns about Palin’s knowledge for the job. This country would be in big trouble if Todd Palin is running it. Todd and Sara will have this country in one helluva mess.
Posted by: Big "O" | October 18, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Can anyone tell me is it me or what does it seen like McCain and Palin don’t care if most of what they say about Obama has shown to be a lies
Is it me or WHAT
Posted by: t.v.eddie | October 18, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
See the CNN, they let comments on pro Obama news and no comments or close comments on pro Mccain or anti obama news items.
Posted by: WageEarner | October 18, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Obama is not getting scrutinized, say some of you? Do we live on the same planet? I see lots about Wright and little about Hagee, lots about Ayers and nothing about Liddy, John Lewis makes an important point about condoning hate speech and is treated like a verbal abuser, nothing about Keating 5, very little about McCain’s outright lies about the relative tax cuts of the two plans (you get more with Obama unless you break a quarter million in income folks, that’s what the plans say in simple arithmetic).
One of the few accurate things I’ve heard Palin say is that it’s not going negative when you call somebody on their factual record. Is that what is meant by ripping McCain, calling him on going with Bush 90% of the time? Calling him on believing that the Iraq War was worth 4000 American lives and a trillion bucks? Where is the slander against McCain? Where is the line Obama uses that is the total parallel to Palin’s lie about palling around with terrorists? How did you learn to travel to another planet in a parallel universe where Obama gets a pass and McCain is scrutinized, where Obama gets no verbal abuse and McCain is ripped?
Posted by: LewfromA2 | October 18, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
McCain Can Kiss it Goodbye- Ashamed and Dishonorable………….
G. Gordan Liddy is McCain’s Ayers–
Take a good look at the PEOPLE that John McCain “associates” with.
John McCain was on the David Letterman show on Thursday and the quote most people have watched is where McCain says “I screwed up”. His body language is that of Oops! But further on into the show McCain then said this. “I’m not in any way embarassed to know Gordon Liddy.”
READ ON: Nixon impeached- America’s Honorable Republicans……
Others included plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention, kidnapping anti-war activists and transporting them to Mexico and arranging call girls to catch Democrats in compromising situations.
Liddy is most famous for the break in at the Watergate Hotel. Basically, the “plumbers” were caught breaking into the Democratic National Committee Headquarters housed at the Watergate hotel. Their intention was to bug the phones and put in a “room monitoring device”.
Liddy was sentenced to over 21 years in prison. He served four and a half years in prison after being convicted of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping. Liddy’s sentence was commuted by President Carter.
Posted by: sue | October 18, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Sorry, try, again.
Posted by: sandy
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Oh no, I would rather see you remaining a… “sleeping beauty”.
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Following are excerpts from a public address delivered by Libyan Leader Mu’ammar Al-Qadhafi marking the anniversary of the U.S. air raid on Libya. The address aired on Al-Jazeera TV on June 11, 2008:
“Libyan Leader Mu’ammar Al-Qadhafi: Obama Suffers Inferiority Complex That Might Make Him Behave “Whiter Than the White.” He Should Be Proud of His African, Muslim Identity. Ben-Gurion Gave the Green Light for the Killing of JFK ….”
TEXT (Qadhafi’s Public Address – June 11, 2008)
http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/1791.htm
VIDEO – Qadhafi: Obama is a Muslim – Qadhafi’s Public Address – June 11, 2008
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/gaddafi-obama-is-a-muslim/2563816338/?icid=VIDURVNWS07
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Palin is one hell of a role model for all mothers. The elementary school will have 2 Palins in class together. I can see it now. When they get home from school, Sara tells her little one, “Go sit down with your uncle and get your homework done”. All throughout school, Trick asking his uncle to use his eraser. She should be PROUD!!!!!!
Go Sara. You are a real ROLE MODEL for all mothers out here in the US of A.
Posted by: Big "O" | October 18, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Posted several URLS but ABC moderators will not accept them – but simple solution – Google – “electoral college maps” – you will get an eyeful.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
The New York Times trashes Obama’s Health Care Plan…
Health Plan From Obama Spurs Debate
By KEVIN SACK
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/23/us/23health.html?_r=1&ref=policy&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
It is one of the most audacious promises in a campaign that has been thick with them.
In speech after speech, Senator Barack Obama has vowed that he will lower the country’s health care costs enough to “bring down premiums by $2,500 for the typical family.” Moreover, Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has promised that his health plan will be in place “by the end of my first term as president of the United States.”
Whether Mr. Obama can deliver is a matter of considerable dispute among health analysts and economists. While there is consensus that the American health care system is bloated with waste, eliminating enough to save $2,500 per family would require simultaneous and synergistic solutions to a host of problems that have proved intractable for decades.
Even if the next president and Congress can muster the political will, analysts question whether significant savings would materialize in as little as four years, or even in 10. But as Mr. Obama confronts an electorate that is deeply unsettled by escalating health costs, he is offering a precise “chicken in every pot” guarantee based on numbers that are largely unknowable. Furthermore, it is not completely clear what he is promising.
His words about lowering “premiums” by $2,500 for the average family of four have been fairly consistent. But the health policy advisers who formulated the figure say it actually represents the average family’s share of savings not only in premiums paid by individuals, but also in premiums paid by employers and in tax-supported health programs like Medicare and Medicaid.
“What we’re trying to do,” said one of the advisers, David M. Cutler, in explaining the gap between Mr. Obama’s words and his intent, “is find a way to talk to people in a way they understand.”
The original arithmetic was somewhat basic. In May 2007, three Harvard professors who are unpaid advisers to the Obama campaign — Mr. Cutler, David Blumenthal and Jeffrey Liebman — produced a memorandum offering their “best guess” that a menu of changes would produce savings of at least $200 billion a year (it has since been revised to $214 billion). That would amount to about 8 percent of the $2.5 trillion in health care spending projected for 2009, when the next president takes office.
The memorandum attributed specific savings to several broad initiatives, with the numbers plucked from recent studies. Investments in computerized medical records would save $77 billion a year, the advisers wrote. Reducing administrative costs in the insurance industry would yield up to $46 billion. Improving prevention programs and chronic disease management would be worth $81 billion.
The total savings were then divided by the country’s population, multiplied for a family of four, and rounded down slightly to a number that was easy to grasp: $2,500. The average cost of family coverage bought through an employer was $12,106 in 2007, with workers paying $3,281 of that amount, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health research group.
Mr. Obama aspires to cover the country’s 47 million uninsured by requiring insurers to accept all comers, regardless of their health status, and by providing generous tax credits to low-income workers. The tax credits could be used to buy into a new federal health plan or private plans marketed through a government exchange.
The subsidies are expensive, estimated at well over $100 billion. Other components of the Obama plan also bear up-front costs, like a pledge to spend $50 billion over five years to speed the computerization of health records, $6 billion a year on tax credits to small businesses that provide coverage to workers, and an unspecified amount to buffer businesses from high-cost insurance claims.
The source Mr. Obama has identified to pay for them — the repeal of President Bush’s tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 — would cover only about half. That means additional health care savings would be needed, not only to keep premiums under control but also to help pay for the subsidies.
A consensus has emerged among health economists that at least a third of the country’s spending on health care is unnecessary. Both Mr. Obama, of Illinois, and his Republican rival, Senator John McCain of Arizona, agree that significant sums could be saved through reductions in unneeded procedures and improvements in electronic record-keeping, prevention and chronic disease management.
But the dollar values Mr. Obama has attached to individual components of his plan are beginning to attract scrutiny. In particular, the Congressional Budget Office issued a report in May questioning the amount to be saved from the computerization of health systems.
Mr. Obama took his estimate of $77 billion a year from a 2005 study by the RAND Corporation (which cautioned that reductions of that magnitude would not emerge for 15 years). The Congressional analysts found, however, that for various methodological reasons the RAND study was “not an appropriate guide” to potential savings.
This month, Mr. Obama’s health advisers tried to recast the debate so that the questioning of any one number would not undermine the plan’s broader credibility. They enlisted eight health policy experts to sign a letter that, without endorsing the math behind any single initiative, proclaimed it was “not only possible, but likely” that Mr. Obama could save $200 billion annually. They did not say by when.
Mr. Cutler, who helped collect the signatures, said he and his colleagues had decided “that our attempt to lay out one plausible scenario for the savings had created more problems than it had solved.” He added: “Putting the debate where this message puts it — do you believe we can save 8 percent of health spending through a major series of public and private reforms — asks the question in a way that is much more productive than the issue of ‘Do you believe a single estimate among many, many studies?’ ”
Mr. Obama’s economic policy director, Jason Furman, said the campaign’s estimates were conservative and asserted that much of the savings would come quickly. “We think we could get to $2,500 in savings by the end of the first term, or be very close to it,” Mr. Furman said.
The campaign won additional backing this week from Kenneth E. Thorpe of Emory University, an authority on health care costs who helped formulate Bill Clinton’s failed plan in 1993. In an assessment that he initiated in coordination with the campaign, Mr. Thorpe wrote that if all of Mr. Obama’s proposals were enacted they would reduce health spending by between $203 billion and $273 billion by 2012. He calculated that half of the savings would accrue to the federal government.
The Obama advisers said that while not all of the savings would translate into lower premiums, consumers would gain in other ways. The savings to employers would be passed along as higher wages, they predicted, and the savings to government would eventually mean either lower taxes or added benefits.
But whether employers and governments respond that way cannot be guaranteed, particularly in a difficult economy. And a number of health policy experts have questioned whether the $2,500 projection is either fiscally or politically realistic. Reducing health care costs, they emphasized, means taking money from someone’s pocket and rationing care that Americans have come to expect, a recipe for stiff resistance.
“There is no easy money because, as the saying goes, one person’s fraud and abuse is another person’s income,” said Joseph R. Antos of the American Enterprise Institute. “I wouldn’t think that four years or eight years or probably 10 years will be enough to see numbers of that sort.”
The Commonwealth Fund, a health research group in New York, published a study in December projecting that a robust overhaul consisting of 15 broad initiatives would generate savings of only 6 percent after 10 years. “Doing it by the end of a first term is ambitious and would require tough policies,” said Karen Davis, the group’s president.
Jonathan B. Oberlander, who teaches health policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, called it wishful thinking. “Do they have the potential to generate significant savings in the long run?” Dr. Oberlander asked. “Yes. Do I believe they will produce substantial savings in the short run that can be used to finance Obama’s plan? No.”
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
SARAH PALIN IS GUILTY OF ABUSE OF AUTHORITY BY A BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION – 10 REPUBLICANS AND 4 DEMOCRATS – THE VERDICT IS IN- SHE VIOLATED HER POSITION AND SHE LIED TO COVER HER ACTIONS!!!!!
The Networks and the McCain Campaign is lying again by saying this was a Partisan decision by the democrats. Just because you are an at-will(can fire for no reason) employee does not mean you can abuse your authority for personal vendettas. They need to fess up and grow up and take responsibility for their actions. This recent decision can bring further and future charges that could lead to censure and/or impeachment of Governor Palin. She is guilty of Abusing her authority as a trusted Government official and she based her qualifications for Vice President and for being a heartbeat away from the Presidency on her experience. She has lied about the reasons for firing the commissioner on several occasions. She personally defamed his character and libelously attacked his creditability without regard to the effect on him and his family for pure political gain and basically projecting herself as a moral Christian with nothing to hide. She initially said that he went on a trip unauthorized until ABC produced the document that said otherwise. Her constituents were not in agreement with her intimidating and threatening tactics, but carried them out for fear of their jobs. She had her husband run meetings and help in this attack even though he is not authorized and she overstepped her authority. She gave him permission to be her strong arm and he is clearly connected to and was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party created by Joe Vogler who was a radical Anti-American terrorist and she tried to appoint one of the radical terrorist, John Stein, to head City Council but it was rejected by the people. She used intimidation, manipulation and domination to run her position and that is illegal.
She has no creditability. She has no integrity. You cannot believe anything that she says.
It is blatantly clear that she is not qualified for Vice President, or President and now that
this decision has been confirmed and brought out, it is clear she is not even qualified for Governor either. I am also glad that they are looking into her paying herself taxpayer money for daily per diems including weekends to stay at home. The majority of the people I know work in a different city than where they live, however, they do not get per diems. She took thousands of taxpayers dollars. This is not a woman you want elected and she does not represent true Christianity.
Posted by: She Needs A Lie Detector | October 18, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Hell definitely just froze over. Salt Lake Tribune (Utah!) endorses Obama!
A simple choice: The nation needs Barack Obama in the White House
Tribune Editorial
Article Last Updated: 10/17/2008 08:06:04 PM MDT
The next U.S. president will lead a nation that remains embroiled in two wars and is beset by an economic meltdown more severe than any since the Great Depression.
By necessity, the country’s next commander in chief must also be its mender in chief, capable of inspiring his angry and divided constituents to join together in a recovery project to restore the peace, prosperity, and self-confidence we once knew.
We fear that a lesser effort may be insufficient to reverse America’s slide toward economic, political and societal chaos. The times require dramatic and comprehensive change.
The presidential candidates know it, and have made it their mantra.
Most Americans know it, and, in growing numbers, are demanding it.
The countries that have long depended upon the United States for enlightened global leadership long for it.
For the sake of all, and for those who follow us, we must have it.
The editorial board of The Salt Lake Tribune believes that Barack Obama can deliver it.
More at:
http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_10750163
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
SARAH PALIN ATTENDED AND ADDRESSED MEMBERS AT AN ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY KNOWING THAT THE MILITIA MEMBERS INTIMATELY ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. THEY HELPED HER GET ELECTED AS MAYOR. SHE REWARDED TERRORIST JOHN STEIN BY ATTEMPTING TO APPOINT HIM AS CITY COUNCIL. WHEN SHE RECEIVED RESISTENCE, HE WAS REJECTED. THIS WASN’T 40 YEARS AGO, THIS WAS RECENTLY. SHE IS THE TERRORIST AND SO IS HER HUSBAND. TODD PALIN, THE FIRST DUDE IS APART OF AN TERRORIST PARTY. SARAH PALIN IS THE PROFESSIONAL DECEIVER AND LIAR.
Todd Palin was apart of this Alaskan Independence Party up until 2008. Sarah Palin recorded a video showing Todd being apart of this group this year. During the 1970s, Vogler founded the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP) and Alaskans For Independence. He also claimed to have organized the meeting which led to the formation of the Libertarian Party in Alaska. The AIP and AFI, as Vogler explained, were intended to function as strictly separate entities — AIP primarily to explore whether the 1956 vote by Alaskans authorizing statehood was legal, and AFI primarily to actively pursue secession for Alaska from the United States.
The Alaskan Independence Party quotes Vogler as stating “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”[1] [2]
Todd Palin first registered to vote in 1989. From 1995 to 2002 he was registered to vote as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.[11] In late August 2008, The Politico reported that Palin was registered to vote as an independent (“undeclared”), and had never registered as a Republican.[12]
Posted by: She Needs A Lie Detector | October 18, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Sara Palin was a bad choice and a terrible role model. Her pregnant daughter is going to bring her double-wide and park it on the South Lawn. With his and her Trans Ams parked in front. Babies running around with pampers hanging half on and half off…
I can see into the future.
Posted by: Big "O" | October 18, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Extremely Scary!!!! Extremely Unsettling!!!! And you McCain/Palin supporters may think she is cute when she winks and memorizes lines and you sell her dolls like you are in a ballpark watching a game, but there are Real Enemies of Ours who would not negotiate with an Airhead who knows nothing and would regard her as a JOKE and you voting her in would make you the JOKE also. You would be asking for Danger. Make “Say It Ain’t So Joe” go home. If that does not scare you, nothing will !!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 – Country and Security First !!!!!
Posted by: American for Change | October 18, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
If an airhead like Palin ever met with Puttin and she said I can see you from my house.
He may try and blow her up and say. Now you see me and now you don’t.
You need someone with intelligence, who knows someone other than a 3rd grade class from Alaska and someone who is truly intelligent and not someone who had past criminal charges like McCain or someone who is currently under criminal investigation like Palin and from the looks of this article who also cheated on her taxes, but claims it’s okay because she worked out with the IRS. Maybe she winked at them.
This would be funny, if it weren’t true and Frightening. McCain who doesn’t know when our economy is in trouble and Palin who does know the name one magazine she reads. President and Vice President. I don’t think SO !!!!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 Country and Security First !!!!
Posted by: Scary Palin | October 18, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Posted several URLS but ABC moderators will not accept them – but simple solution – Google – “electoral college maps” – you will get an eyeful.
Posted by: sandy
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BOZO – please do not change the subject – I was not rerring to the electoral maps – I was referring to your comment which started as “Barack Obama has gained a slight…”
Once again, you are proving NAIVE. Go check your electoral maps – make sure you do not miss the one on…”Sesame Street”! Ahaha…ha!
McCain is right – That One is “naive” and apparently he has passed his naivetee to his supporters.
It is best to ignore you as well as That One!
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Natasha – so you cannot handle the electoral college maps but go nuts with the polls? Seems the country’s newspapers are MUCH smarter than you are and feel That One is THE ONE to lead this country! Salt Lake Tribune (Utah!) endorses Obama! The newspaper in the reddest of red states!!!!!!!
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Yes, I have also decided to be positive myself.
This is why I have contacted my senator and asked for international obverses to oberve this election. So that McCain and the good old GOP will not steal this election, with all their hot air about voter fraud. Obama supporters need to contact their senators or congress person.
Posted by: suv2001 | October 18, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
The Boston Herald
October 11, 2008
It is what it is: Obama allied with scoundrels
In the best tradition of Bill Clinton’s declaration that the answer to the question of whether he was having an affair depended on “what the definition of is is,” Sen. Barack Obama was clearly concealing the truth when he said that William Ayers was “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood.”
The Ayers-Obama connection was, in fact, an intimate collaboration that it led to the only executive or administrative experience in Obama’s life.
After Walter Annenberg’s foundation offered several hundred million dollars to American public schools in the mid-’90s, Ayers applied for $50 million for Chicago. His purpose was to “raise political consciousness” in schools.
After he won the grant, Ayers’ group chose Obama to distribute the $50 million, and the future senator raised another $60 million from other civic groups to augment it. In doing so, he was following Ayers’ admonition to grant the funds to “external” organizations, like American Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), to pair with schools and conduct programs to radicalize and politicize the students.
Reading, math and science achievement tests counted for little in the grants, but the school’s success in preaching a radical agenda determined how much money it got.
Obama should have run screaming at the sight of Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers has admitted bombing the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon, and his wife was imprisoned for failing to cooperate in solving the robbery of a Brink’s car in which two police were killed. Far from remorse, Ayers told The New York Times [NYT], in September 2001, that he wished he “could have done more.” Ayers only avoided conviction when the evidence against him turned out to be contained in illegal wiretaps. He was, in fact, guilty as sin.
So let’s sum up Obama’s Chicago connections. His chief financial supporter was Tony Rezko, now on his way to prison. His spiritual adviser was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, of “God damn America” fame. And the guy who got him his only administrative job is former terrorist Ayers.
Not a good recommendation for a president.
© The Boston Herald and Herald Media.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1124922
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
NOT JUST KEATING 5 BUT MCCAIN DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO IRAN-CONTRA REBELS
In the 1980s, McCain served on the advisory board to the U.S. chapter of an international group linked to ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America.
The U.S. Council for World Freedom aided rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua. That landed the group in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which revoked the charitable organization’s tax exemption.
The council created by retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub was the U.S. chapter of the World Anti-Communist League, an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. After setting up the U.S. council, Singlaub served as the international league’s chairman.
McCain’s tie to Singlaub’s council is undergoing renewed scrutiny. When you lie on
someone else, you own personal skeletons begin to fall out of your lying mouth and
In this case CBS news report.
Posted by: McCain's Terrorist | October 18, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Pick of postion Mac. One week this … one week that. I’m getting dizzy. At least BO stays the course.
Posted by: MacSucks | October 18, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Just in case you’re new here – someone here (posing as several) has about 20 browsers opened up on his old IBM tower PC and is posting all of this anti-Obama stuff on every single political blog here, CNN and MSNBC. Oh ya, and even Alaska Daily News. Its the same person – after you’ve been here for a while you will just IGNORE like the rest of us. You can spot him a mile a way by his screen names (usually female or ‘independent something’ or ‘former dem’ or a european name). The same cut & paste blah blah as well as spelling and grammar patterns – so obvious.
Posted by: lily | October 18, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
The Washington Times
VOIGHT: My concerns for America
Obama sowing socialist seeds in young people
We, as parents, are well aware of the importance of our teachers who teach and program our children. We also know how important it is for our children to play with good-thinking children growing up.
Sen. Barack Obama has grown up with the teaching of very angry, militant white and black people: the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers and Rev. Michael Pfleger. We cannot say we are not affected by teachers who are militant and angry. We know too well that we become like them, and Mr. Obama will run this country in their mindset.
The Democratic Party, in its quest for power, has managed a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages, creating a God-like figure in a man who falls short in every way. It seems to me that if Mr. Obama wins the presidential election, then Messrs. Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger will gain power for their need to demoralize this country and help create a socialist America.
The Democrats have targeted young people, knowing how easy it is to bring forth whatever is needed to program their minds. I know this process well. I was caught up in the hysteria during the Vietnam era, which was brought about through Marxist propaganda underlying the so-called peace movement. The radicals of that era were successful in giving the communists power to bring forth the killing fields and slaughter 2.5 million people in Cambodia and South Vietnam. Did they stop the war, or did they bring the war to those innocent people? In the end, they turned their backs on all the horror and suffering they helped create and walked away.
Those same leaders who were in the streets in the ’60s are very powerful today in their work to bring down the Iraq war and to attack our president, and they have found their way into our schools. William Ayers is a good example of that.
Thank God, today, we have a strong generation of young soldiers who know exactly who they are and what they must do to protect our freedom and our democracy. And we have the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus, who has brought hope and stability to Iraq and prevented the terrorists from establishing a base in that country. Our soldiers are lifting us to an example of patriotism at a time when we’ve almost forgotten who we are and what is at stake.
If Mr. Obama had his way, he would have pulled our troops from Iraq years ago and initiated an unprecedented bloodbath, turning over that country to the barbarianism of our enemies. With what he has openly stated about his plans for our military, and his lack of understanding about the true nature of our enemies, there’s not a cell in my body that can accept the idea that Mr. Obama can keep us safe from the terrorists around the world, and from Iran, which is making great strides toward getting the atomic bomb. And while a misleading portrait of Mr. Obama is being perpetrated by a media controlled by the Democrats, the Obama camp has sent out people to attack the greatness of Sen. John McCain, whose suffering and courage in a Hanoi prison camp is an American legend.
Gen. Wesley Clark, who himself has shame upon him, having been relieved of his command, has done their bidding and become a lying fool in his need to demean a fellow soldier and a true hero.
This is a perilous time, and more than ever, the world needs a united and strong America. If, God forbid, we live to see Mr. Obama president, we will live through a socialist era that America has not seen before, and our country will be weakened in every way.
Jon Voight is an Academy Award-winning actor who is well-known for his humanitarian work.
The Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/28/voight/
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Peggy Noonan was probably Reagan’s most famous speechwriter. She’s also the woman who was caught on tape a while back bashing McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin on MSNBC after she thought the mic was off. She unloads on Palin in the Wall Street Journal. “As Joe has noted before, lead Republicans know the race is over. That’s why they’re going public, weighing in, trying to mark the territory with their best explanation for what went wrong. It isn’t a good sign at all for McCain. And even worse for Palin. At some point, the talk is going to begin, if it hasn’t already, as to whether the choice of Sarah Palin was the beginning of the end of John McCain’s quest for the presidency. Bring her back in 2012, and the party may split in two.”
God, this is fun. It’s been a long time since Democrats could say that.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Poor Natasha…lips are moving but nobody’s listening.
Posted by: lily | October 18, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Robert Kennedy, Jr. did a GREAT job on Larry King! He said Ayers was man of the year in IL, tied McCain with G. Gordon Liddy, explaining what a nut Liddy is, and tied Palin to AIP, explaining what an Anti-American, lunatic group it is.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
I don’t think McCain struggles nearly as much as Obama, who was clearly unable to deny with anything substantial, his relationships with terrorists. A great many Americans have been quietly listening to the words from both Candidates, researching obama, who was literally unknown and wanted to know how they stood on Taxes, Abortion, Illegals and the character of the leader of this Great Country and now they are just waiting for November 4. The truth about Obama and Ayers serving on boards, going on retreats together, Ayers hosting the first fund raiser for Obama in his political career and Obama’s lie, “he is just a guy in the neighborhood” hurt Americans. They didn’t want to believe another Liar was headed for the White House. Clinton looked in the camera and said,” I never had sex with the woman”. when he should have told the truth.
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
What ever happened to John Edwards? Last I heard from Santa Barbara, his baby is fine and so is his mistress. lol
As for Peggy Noonan, so what? She isn’t God nor did He appoint her to choose the VP. That was the job for the candidate and he chose a good one.
Sarah Palin has more Approval from Alaskans than the Congress does from Americans. Must be a good leader and Governor to have 86 % Approval.. No politician has ever had a rating so great. What say to that one?
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Western Pennsylvania – Appalachian “Coal Country”
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/on-road-western-...
FiveThirtyEight.com
So a canvasser goes to a woman’s door in Washington, Pennsylvania. Knocks. Woman answers. Knocker asks who she’s planning to vote for. She isn’t sure, has to ask her husband who she’s voting for. Husband is off in another room watching some game. Canvasser hears him yell back, “We’re votin’ for the n***er!”
Woman turns back to canvasser, and says brightly and matter of factly: “We’re voting for the n***er.”
In this economy, racism is officially a luxury. How is John McCain going to win if he can’t win those voters? John Murtha’s “racist” western Pennsylvania district, where this story takes place, is some of the roughest turf in the nation. But Barack Obama is on the ground and making inroads due to unusually strong organizing leadership.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Since McCain is try to be positive, it would nice if someone can get some of the old robocalls Bush used against McCain. This will show the public where McCain learn to do his dirty tricks.
Posted by: suv2001 | October 18, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
Farrahkhan aka as the “tin man” is a laugh. So is his friends, Jeremiah Wright and Barry Hussein Obama.
Posted by: foxladynews | October 18, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
On his talk show on WPHT today, conservative Philadelphian Michael Smerconish endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
“I’ve decided,” he said. “My conclusion comes after reading the candidates’ memoirs and campaign platforms, attending both party conventions, interviewing both men multiple times, and watching all primary and general election debates.
“John McCain is an honorable man who has served his country well. But he will not get my vote. For the first time since registering as a Republican 28 years ago, I’m voting for a Democrat for president.
“I may have been an appointee in the George H.W. Bush administration, and master of ceremonies for George W. Bush in 2004, but last Saturday I stood amidst the crowd at an Obama event in North Philadelphia,” says the Republican. Smerconish was overwhelmed.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if America was America again? If the real History of America was taught in schools and sexual education was taught at home at the right time, instead of being shoved down the 2nd graders who still wet the bed.
To think we were once a nation with home style bakeries and could buy fresh food in our local stores and not all this crap in storage for a year or food from 10,000 miles away, picked green, dried up and rotten. People had family time, together and TV didn’t bring alot of garbage into our homes? Well, some of us are living better by changing our life style to the America we knew and loved and don’t patronize businesses that fund Planned Parenthood, or support issues that change our deep rooted values.
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if America was America again? If the real History of America was taught in schools and sexual education was taught at home at the right time, instead of being shoved down the 2nd graders who still wet the bed.
To think we were once a nation with home style bakeries and could buy fresh food in our local stores and not all this crap in storage for a year or food from 10,000 miles away, picked green, dried up and rotten. People had family time, together and TV didn’t bring alot of garbage into our homes? Well, some of us are living better by changing our life style to the America we knew and loved and don’t patronize businesses that fund Planned Parenthood, or support issues that change our deep rooted values.
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
McCain tries one new strategy after another. Whereas Obama has been pretty steady with the same strategy and approach all the way through the campaign. Do the McCain people think the American people have such short memories or are so stupid that they’ll forget the McCain-Palin slanders or the erratic path the McCain campaign has taken as it attempts to win.
Posted by: Joel Miller | October 18, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
There is no pleasing the liberal, go negative and you heart our feelings, go positive and we all know your lying.
Why dont you all just shut up and go hug each other you petty disgusting bunch of idiots.
I am one of the few that really dont care who wins! If its McCain Palin we have a chance and THEY WILL CLEAN HOUSE!! That will be a glorious period in American history and finally give our kids a chance at a real future. Obama wins I get to see the same thing the last two Democrats did, promise tax cuts to the poor and then see across the board tax hikes. Obama likes to dwell on the McCain record, here is Obamas, he has never voted to cut taxes and never missed a chance to raise them. Thata a record you can believe in!! At the end of Carter we had over 10% unemployed and a 21% interest rate and 12% inflation. Read that again 10% OUT OF WORK (7.5 now), 21% INTEREST RATES (about 6.5% now), and 12% INFLATION (about 4% now).
I cannot wait to apply the bumper sticker “BLAME YOURSELF I VOTED MCCAIN PALIN).
Posted by: David of Baltimore | October 18, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Cindy McCain- the person who committed fraud against her own non-profit.
Sarah Palin – who is found to be abusive of her power by her own peers
John McCain- and the Keating 5 affair
Why is is not in the media?
Posted by: fran | October 18, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
This presentation is a must watch for the left-wing-liberal media clowns and all “morally sound” American fellows.
A VIDEO PORTRAIT OF BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
AMERICA THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Well if that doesn’t prove it, what would, that SMERCONISH is for Obama. He must realize McCain is not another Bush and he thinks Obama will be more like Bush. People seem to think we are impressed by the endorsers who support Obama? I have never heard of this guy Smerconish, and I am not impressed by names. I know too many VIP in this Country to be impressed by a Name. Look at Madonna, she supported Obama, too. What does that tell you? Madonna has alot of friends, but I STILL CAN”T STAND THE WOMAN. So, impress the more gentile with some better names.
Ted Kennedy never impressed me, either. And, his nephew, Bobby, Jr is a big drunk jerk. All the Kennedys need to sober up.
Posted by: foxladynews | October 18, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
Foxladynexws, with all that you just posted about Obama, he still spanking McWinkle dirty bottom. I think you need to change his soiled depends.
Posted by: suv2001 | October 18, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
foxladynews – do not get around much do you? Smerconish is one of the most heard conservative talk show hosts in the country – one of YOU!!!!! He has also appeared on several network and cable news programs. You just invalidated every thing you say – you do not even know your own conservative flock. Every heard of Peggy Noonan?
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
foxnewslady: you must be republican. only a republican chooses their words like that. it’s crazy that a land that we stole and had slavery abound is about to be that same land where the slave who became a man has become the leader of the free world. Ain’t America Great?
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
There is no pleasing the liberal, go negative and you heart our feelings, go positive and we all know your lying.
Why dont you all just shut up and go hug each other you petty disgusting bunch of idiots.
I am one of the few that really dont care who wins! If its McCain Palin we have a chance and THEY WILL CLEAN HOUSE!! That will be a glorious period in American history and finally give our kids a chance at a real future. Obama wins I get to see the same thing the last two Democrats did, promise tax cuts to the poor and then see across the board tax hikes. Obama likes to dwell on the McCain record, here is Obamas, he has never voted to cut taxes and never missed a chance to raise them. Thata a record you can believe in!! At the end of Carter we had over 10% unemployed and a 21% interest rate and 12% inflation. Read that again 10% OUT OF WORK (7.5 now), 21% INTEREST RATES (about 6.5% now), and 12% INFLATION (about 4% now).
I cannot wait to apply the bumper sticker “BLAME YOURSELF I VOTED MCCAIN PALIN).
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As a pretty conservative Republican I can see why taxes have to be raised regardless of what anyone promises. We have major debt that has to be paid and hopefully we can begin this as soon as possible as I do not want my grandkids strapped with the failed policies of the Bush Administration. As for MCCain, he is being less than honest about his plans. I am in the 300,000 tax bracket myself and I do not need or want a tax cut while my daughter is struggling to make ends meet although she is a professional herself.
We can sit here and get upset about our economy and think that the next president is going to get us out of this mess. The reality is we need to get us out of this mess and all of us will have to sacrifice and quit whining about having to pay more taxes. I vote for the man, never for the party and in this case I am voting for Obama as I feel he has a better plan for the future and will surround himself with true experts rather than all the ghosts from the past.
Posted by: fran | October 18, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Hey Sarah Palin supporters why don’t you burn a cross in her honor,I know she’d be honored if you did! KKK all the way!
Posted by: AJ | October 18, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Funny it was Obama at Joes house looking for votes and all the guy did was ask a question. Regardless of his status (he could have been Bill Ayers) the guy asked a question and Obama said his plans are to “spread the wealth”. Now the guy is getting slammed for asking a one sentence question? What if Barbara Walters asked that question? Funny how you all do the usual liberal tactic, attack the person you dont agree with and change the subject.
Obama talks about all the negative McCain ads, I counted six on NBC tonight in three hours, all attacked McCain except for the one where Mommy died of cancer and could not afford tratment. Funny how she spent so much of her life in indonesia but decided to come back to the US to die and expect free socialized health care. If indonesia was so great why did she not stay there for her free handout? Maybe no freebie for the infidels eh?
Posted by: David of Baltimore | October 18, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
The most fun I can have is coming to these blogs, and seeing the republicans whine and cry, and make up sh:t about Obama, like anyone really believes these pukes. I can’t tell you how much it makes me feel like laughing every time I read one of their bullsh:t statements like it is getting under our skin. I just keep imagining the day after the election when all of these republican pukes realize that they aren’t in charge anymore. The American people woke up, and told Rush and savage to stick it up your a$$!
You aren’t the real americans! you are a bunch of scared pathetic followers who now have to realize they are left with nothing! The only thing that trickled down was debt. Your taxes are going to go up because you ran up the bill. Watch a little more Judge Joe Brown to see how people are going to treat you as you try to blame every one else for your hardship.
Cry you pathetic republicans, cry your hearts out. Make up what you want, no one is listening!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
I can’t believe Sarah Palin called certain parts of the country UnAmerican. Look at the words she used. Pro American, Real Americans, and Best of America. What kind of Right Wing nut is Sarah Palin to be running for VP and insulting the same folks she wants to vote for her. I guess its only Obama supporters or anybody who doesn’t support their robo calls and low road campaign tactics. I think the media is taking this too lightly. Sarah Palin during a fund raiser said that only certain parts of the country are patriotic and real Americans and she’s running to be VP and proberly president. Thats very alarming and I think she needs to explain exactly which part of America does she think is UnAmerican or less patriotic. This is starting to become a narrative. On Chris Mathews today congresswoman Michelle Bockwman said that congress should be integregated on who’s American and anti-American. Now Sarah Palin is stating that only certain parts of America are Pro America. This follows 3 weeks of attacks from the Mccain/Palin campaign that questioned Obama’s patriotism. The republicans and Mccain/Palin campaign should be questioned about their patriotism its the Republican party that has made the economy worst with their deregulation and their Right Wing policies for the rich. Its the Republican Party that has us in 2 wars thats costing us Billions a month. How patriotic is the Republican Pary when the leader of their Party is leaving the country with 2 wars with no resolution, 11 trillion in debt, and a economy in turmoil? Their the ones if anybody who’s patriotism should be in quesion. I think if Mccain/Palin were in the White House the country would be worst with their radical Right Wing beliefs and their decisive nature. KEEP MCCAIN/PALIN OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. WHY HASN’T THE MEDIA ASK MCCAIN ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH GORDON LIDEY? IT TOOK DAVID LETTERMAN A NIGHT SHOW COMEDIAN TO GIVE MCCAIN A REAL INTERVIEW. THE MOST EFFECTIVE INTERVIEW MCCAIN HAS HAD THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN.
Posted by: madkeyra | October 18, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Who thinks MCain/Palin exposing obamas radical connections are unethical? I certainly don’t. It goes to obamas character, and judgement, and without either of those he has NOTHING else to stand on. Unless you want to count 20 years in a racially divisive church as experience.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Get the facts – Go to: http://www.atr.org/ and enter your 401K value to immediately see how the candidates plan effect your retirement.
Posted by: Get the Facts | October 18, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
The World will never be the same after 9/11. We know terrorism is not going to go away, it just happens, America will experience what other countries have lived with for centuries. Bush was naive to think islam is a peaceful religion and the proof is in the actions of the Sunnis vs Shias the past 5 years, though it was nothing new, we just didn’t see it as clearly as we do, now. Ahminijehad, another Hitler, is waiting for the Mahdi the Imam that has been in absentia, to appear and he will save the MUSLIMS, and what happens to the rest of us? Should we ask Barrack? He is very presumptuous if he thinks real Americans believe him to be the Messiah. It was a joke, BARRY!
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
David of Baltimore: McCain has no legs to stand on so he has to attack Obama’s character. Obama is attacking McCain on issues. if Obama was to attack McCain on character, it would put republicans to shame
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Fran – The conservative Republican as she claim said in one post:
Cindy McCain- the person who committed fraud against her own non-profit.
Sarah Palin – who is found to be abusive of her power by her own peers
John McCain- and the Keating 5 affair
Why is is not in the media?
Fran, if you are a republican and not a poor excuse for one of these paid Obama bloggers I would wonder why you would be so stupid to even ask this question. For all accounts above the McCains have honestly answered to their accusers and when you look at the circumstances it was not that bad.
It was nothing like the Ayers, Resko, Wright, Pflager, Farrakhan, etc etc etc that Obama has consistantly NN interview from last year where Obama admitted to the fundraiser in Ayers living room? Its still there on the CNN site to hear, and then he lies before 60 million people by sating he did not.
I actually do beleive you are a paid Obama blogger Fran, however you are a really bad one. May I suggest a carreer at ACORN?
Posted by: David of Baltimore | October 18, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Just a few words: Why are so many people finding contributions to bama’s campaign on their credit cards? I have heard several people say they were not authorized, they called the credit card companies who reversed the charges and then called the bama cmpaign who tried to convince them to let the charges stay!!! ALSO, what is the secret bama is trying to hide by not letting anyone view his birth certificate? IS MAYBE HE DOES NOT HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT? Incidently he may be half white American but the other half is “hienz 57″.
Posted by: LT | October 18, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
David,
Spread the wealth is a sound bite straight from the debate. Obama explained his tax plan which actually is more sound than McCain’s. I don’t need a refund, but many I know do. I make more than enough money and what Obama was referring to is the overall support for people who are working and who do need some help. Bottom up is where people need it. The people we speak of are our military, our firefighters, our teachers, our social workers, our nurses and our police officers. I have no problem with Obama or McCain paying additional taxes as they can afford to.
There is a difference between “attacking” someone for the policies or attacking them by say they “pal” around with terrorists. I guess President Reagan and many of Ayers friends now get to be in the same category too according to the benchmark set by Ms Palin.
Posted by: fran | October 18, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
madkeyra
A little naivety on your part eh? There are certainly areas that arent pro-american in this country. For instance Chicago, and San Francisco.
Obama chose a couple of anti-americans to in chicago to befriend. Hello anybody home?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Sandy: The Salt Lake Tribune endorsement was surprising – thanks for the link. Although the endorse Obama on his own merits, I found this quote (which has been echoed in other newspaper endorsements) as telling:
“More than any single factor, McCain’s bad judgment in choosing the inarticulate, insular and ethically challenged Palin disqualifies him for the presidency.”
I guess McCain just “screwed up”.
By the way, doesn’t Jon Voight know it was Bush that brought this current batch of socialism upon us?
Posted by: MIguy | October 18, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
McCain does real magic tricks, he pulled a moose out of his hat. Sarah is brainless moose ha ha
Posted by: suv2001 | October 18, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
Badger, Stop! I can’t keep laughing like this, you’re killing me. Are you insinuating that you are american?
I can’t stop laughing, you’re a republican puke and you think anyone believes you.
Really, I mean it, I can’t stop laughing!!!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Bottom line, obamas plan is redistribution of wealth, and class warfare. Who the fk is he dictate what we get to keep, and who he passes our money out to? obama is a joke, and the ultimate con artist. I am amazed that more people cant see through this empty vessel. Don’t listen to his mouth, LOOK AT HIS RECORD.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
In my opinion Obama is an American version of GORBACHEV.He will do what Gorbachev did.
Posted by: Parsa | October 18, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
Antione, Ignorance is not bliss. IF you live in a land of theives, you must be considered one of them. Abetting a crime, makes you as responsible as the criminal.
Obama was not a slave, not to say, he shouldn’t have been because all Africans are subject to slavery, it has been in effect for centuries.
And, Thank God America stole the country or it might Look like Mexico and Where would the Mexicans go if there was no America?
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
ABC NEWS, PLEASE LEARN TO SAY THE FOLLOWING WORDS, (no I don’t mean ‘Ayers’, ‘Acorn’ or ‘Wright’, I know you love these words, but it’s time to learn some new ones):
ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY
G. GORDON LIDDY
THE US COUNCIL ON WORLD FREEDOM
KEATING 5
PALIN ETHICS ABUSE
It is beyond the pale that you won’t mention these dangerous associations of Mccain and Palin…we’re SICK OF THE DOUBLE STANDARD.
LISTEN TO HILLARY AND GROW A PAIR!
Posted by: lisa | October 18, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
A news reporter told Palin, you are dumber than a bucket of rocks, Palin asked which rock he was talking about.
Posted by: suv2001 | October 18, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Democrats are angry. Sarah Palin may be the first politico with an 86% approval rate………………Wish some of the bloggers had a rate so high.
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Fonewslady, you are funnier than sh:t too. God Damn lady, do you eat with that mouth?
You must be republican too, you are anti-american too!
You guys kill me, you are so smart the way you throw those insults out there.
Tell me, what’s it like believing in a looser? I mean really, McCain claimed no winnings from i=his gambling on his taxes, so that means he is a looser right? or does he just cheat on his taxes????
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Mr. McCain and Mrs. Palin- Both of you should be ASHAMED of yourselves! You call yourself a straight talker Mr. McCain and all you do is spread poison! And as for you Mrs. Palin- How dare you call yourself a CHRISTIAN and behave as abominably as you do? Have you no decency? This man is more than your political opponent, he is a human being, a father, a husband and fellow American. You treat him like dirt and you expect respect from the rest of us Americans who are sitting here watching you both in disbelief. You 2 are beneath contempt of the American people! How do you sleep at night?
Posted by: citizen of the usa | October 18, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Natashia, that was a great post but ya know I am convinced that what we see here are 99% paid Obama bloggers that are working part time while not engaged in their full time job of promoting voter fraud.
They sit with their laundry list of officialy approved smears ( I love the one where McCain used taxpayer money to fund that division of Zombies to attack the peace loving FARC freedom fighters in Columbia!!) to influence the Americans that dont have a brain to think for themselves. Funny part is these Americans are already occupied blogging and attending the Obama pro-socialism rallies. Anyway if you really study this its the same idiots preaching the same smears and I really think nobody is really watching or reading besides us. How many time do you really see a reponse to your posts? Maybe its a bot the Obama people have running on their blog servers, that would explain why they are always off topic and never make sense.
Posted by: David of Baltimore | October 18, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
Why is is not in the media?
Fran, if you are a republican and not a poor excuse for one of these paid Obama bloggers I would wonder why you would be so stupid to even ask this question. For all accounts above the McCains have honestly answered to their accusers and when you look at the circumstances it was not that bad.
It was nothing like the Ayers, Resko, Wright, Pflager, Farrakhan, etc etc etc that Obama has consistantly NN interview from last year where Obama admitted to the fundraiser in Ayers living room? Its still there on the CNN site to hear, and then he lies before 60 million people by sating he did not.
I actually do beleive you are a paid Obama blogger Fran, however you are a really bad one. May I suggest a carreer at ACORN?
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No, I am paid by one of those BIG OIl companies. Now look at your post, and another reason I am moving away from the Republican Party. You are adopting the same game plan as the McCain/Palin team. The reality is that the Republican party does not even resemble the principles it once had. You seem to forget that Mr. McCain has been there for years and supported much of what we gripe about today.
I do not vote for creeps and this is a man that has cheated on his wife when she was down and out to replace her with Cindy McCain before they ever got a divorce. If you find it in your heart to cheat on your sick wife, honor is not part of your make-up.
Our government has grown tremendously throughout Bush and I see no end in sight with McCain. Palin is unqualified and down right mentally challenged.
Posted by: fran | October 18, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
Reporters are aggressive like the paparazzi, who chase people like dogs in heat. They are nuisances and a woman in Alaska told us reporters everywhere sent by the DNC, in every coffee house trying to dig up dirt on the Palins, were literally ignored and snubbed because they were so low class. :D
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
i’m tired of this. Why, oh Why republicans, do you keep bringing up Ayers, Rezko and the rest of them when you will not bring up Keating, his own wife, who is a drug addict and McCain himself who is a Adulterer? try sliding that uder the rug. so i guess it’s the American way to cheat on your spouse? Republicans complained and tried their best to impeach clinton when all he did was get some head. Let’s stick to the issues and not Character because McCain’s past is open and very shady.
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
MIguy – you might be interestd in the Chicago Tribune endorsement as well:
In a historic break with more than a century and a half of tradition, the Chicago Tribune on Sunday is for the first time endorsing a Democrat, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, for the presidency of the United States.
The Tribune played a key role in developing the Republican Party, aided Abraham Lincoln’s rise to the presidency and promoted abolition of slavery. Now it is supporting Obama’s bid to become the nation’s first African-American president.
“On Nov. 4 we’re going to elect a president to lead us through a perilous time and restore in us a common sense of national purpose,” the Tribune editorial said. “The strongest candidate to do that is Sen. Barack Obama.”
The editorial said the Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, “failed in his most important executive decision” by naming Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-tribune-endorsementoct18,0,3250801.story
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
The pitbull with lipstick just sounds stupid. Her message is completely lost because all you hear is something that just sounds stupid. Maybe coming out of another talking head it might not, but out of her it does. McCain could stop his robo-calling too. He’s a liar.
Posted by: Brad | October 18, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Independant realist.
Is it true? youre actually supporting the most liberal senator in the senate,who votes 97% with Pelosi, and Reid :DDDD Now that is Hilarious! then then there is Biden, his gaffe machine, who is 3rd most liberal, the Catholic who is pro abortion, and who would rather run with McCain than Obama?
And obamas claim to fame is what? 20 years in a racially divisive church? Put down the koolaid and get your self to a poison control center asap. :D
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Lib better get something of value and substance, its like watching a gang of teenagers talking about Britney here!!
Posted by: David of Baltimore | October 18, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
and for those that don’t know, The flag in back of Obama with the “O” on it is the Ohio State flag. Not the official Flag of Obama.
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
foxnewslady, that great, yeah, the reporters were sent by the DNC! God damn lady, you are as clever as a piece of sh:t. You must work for Fox, which one are you???? O’Riley, Hannady???? Come on, tell us, which one are you??? Really, you’re clever!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
You have to ask yourself, why are the Obama media, surrogates, and Hollwood elite snobs still attacking Sarah Palin 24/7? I call it it fear, and envy, plain and simple. She is the real deal, she trumps obama all day long. Mayor Governor Business Owner vs community organizer/jr senator.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Badger, is it true that you are going to vote for 72 year old screw up who couldn’t fly an airplane if his life depended on it????? I mean, really, he crashed 3 of them, and was caught by the enemy! What a moron, and you believe in this guy?
Ah!!! hahahahahah.
You kill me!!!!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Badger: you really think that someone who votes with bush 90% of the time is a “maverick”? get real!!!
We dont need another Bush clone.
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Yes, I agree the bloggers and the kids registering voters for Obama are here and there. I don’t think there are Republicans as panicked as the democrats, and you can’t help wondering why?
Are they more self assured? I do believe that, and they care less about politics than the dems. The Govt doesn’t subsidize them, and they are the Average Americans with a REAL LIFE. lol
I feel sorry for the angry, hostile, rabid democrats, they are a poor bunch of slugs that need to read more classic books, One good one is Les Miserables. Films are good, but they can’t replace the reading, they can’t replace spending an evening with your family, dinner at the table with napkins and exchange of conversation. I doubt any of them know what I am talking about.
They are young and restless and find no real satisfaction to living, other than sex, drugs and rock music. Getting govt loans, grants and checks as well. No taste, no class and no good.
Go to the Opera, read some books and get some class before it is too late. You must select your friends carefully in this day and age.
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
David of Baltimore – we “liberals” really scare you – heh? Sorry, we are not “paid Obama bloggers” – just ordinary folks who see the folly in the McCain/Palin ticket and feel very strongly about Senator Obama and Biden.
Your trouble is that you have no good arguments you can use – Conservatives must smarter than you or Natasha have climbed on the Obama/Biden bandwagon – the rest of you are just rolling in the wheels that have fallen off the Straight Talk Express.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Badger:
Biden is the author of the VAWA which was landmark in the US. He is a very qualified and devoted senator. As for Obama he is smart, runs a damn good campaign which has brought him to today and he is Havard graduate and President of the Law review. He has worked on the street with our poorest citizens, been a good state senator (4000 votes, 129 present votes by the way) and has initiated the progress on nuclear proliferation as a junior senator. Give the man credit, he is with grasp of the presidency because he is a very intelligent man who understands his own limitations.
Posted by: Fran | October 18, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
At the end of the day on November 4th, after the smoke clears and a new day dawns on the horizon, Obama will be our president and the same 59 million republicans that voted Bush back into the white in 2004, will become Canadian.
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Go, Foxnewslady, Go! You tell them, you know, you have been in favor of bush for the last 8 years! You have creditability!!! Hey, they Iraqis have WMD’s, we got to get them!!! Ah! hahahaha! You would have thought the moron president would have at least planted WMD’s to prove his point!
Ah! Hahahaha. You are killing me!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
You know you got em dead to rights when they fall back on the worn out talking points.
Obama From Audacity of Hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Any questions?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
I can unequivocally say, we don’t need another antoine, either. You have nothing to add that would make our world better. Without America, where would the Mexicans migrate to? Antoine?
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
ime for me to go but the funny part is the poll have them both at +-45% but to look here it look like an Obama lead. That says one thing, McCain supporters are at work or sleeping in prep for work on Saturday, the Obama supporters have nothing better to to as they are the 45% that dont pay taxes and think he is going to pay them a $10K check for doing what they do best (nothing) while he rapes the rest of US.
History shows that if the Democrat does not have at least a 15 point lead by election they are doomed. With that said, YOU ALL ARE DOOMED to McCain Palin prosperity, on the bright side in four years you ca take another shot at your Kahmir Rouge style takeover of America! Sorry that was low I should never insinuate that a presidential candidate would have ties to such ruthless extremists while in control of nuclear weapons. I am sure Bill Ayers, rev wright and Farrakhan are actually good people that Obama only knows from the hood!
Posted by: David of Baltimore | October 18, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
We bring up REZCO, the jail bird, Ayers, the terrorist, Khalid al-Mansour, the black panther associations, to show the kind of people the Obama’s are. Birds of a feather, flock together, Antoine and remember, Ignorance is not bliss.
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
Yeah, Foxnewslady!!! Where would they migrate too???
Come on, tell me, where!!! You are funny than sh:t!
Ah! Hahahaha!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
I’m really hoping it’s too late for McCain to turn things around.
Posted by: Mike Mason | October 18, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
Why do they compare Obama to Palin?
He’s never been twice elected twice a Mayor
He’s never been elected a Governor
He’s never balanced a muti-billion dollar budget
He’s never made executive decisions
He’s never vetoed spending and created a surplus
He’s never taken on Big Oil, and passed along the savings to the citizens of his state.
He didnt purchase his home without corrupt manipulation
He didnt refuse the 2nd most in contributions (bribes) from the low income lending,l democratically created and nurtured fanniemae
He didnt use sound judgement in choosing a radical to launch his political career.
He didnt leave his racially divisve radical left, church of 20 years until it became a thorn to his political aspirations.
He didnt keep his promise to accept public financing
He didnt keep his word to debate John McCain “anytime, anyplace”
He didnt really contribute over $800,000.00 to a front group for ACORNS PROJECT VOTE………… Oh he did? My bad.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
foxnewslady – you REALLy do not get around much! Many of Senator Obama’s supporters ARE educated – they do not swim around in the same McCain swill that you do. And the Democrats are panicked? Sounds to me like it is you neo-cons that are in a panic – no facts, just accusations, just lies repeated from the Republican talking heads, no support of McCain’s policies (‘course that IS difficult considering he doesn’t have any), more and more Conservatives coming out and saying Palin was a disaster of a pick, more and more Conservatives supporting the Obama/Biden ticket…..give it up….you have lost not only the battle, but the war.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
feel sorry for the angry, hostile, rabid democrats, they are a poor bunch of slugs that need to read more classic books, One good one is Les Miserables. Films are good, but they can’t replace the reading, they can’t replace spending an evening with your family, dinner at the table with napkins and exchange of conversation. I doubt any of them know what I am talking about.
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Don’t forget to add the turn coat Republicans in your little speech (Like me). Some of us Republicans who like some Democrats see that our country needs to take a step in a different direction. Aside from Mc Cain being a man who speaks from both sides of the mouth and has a very shady history, the turning point for me is something Obama said recently. He spoke about the need for all Americans to be responsible and accountable. He spoke about how we were the inventors of the automobile and how we allowed it to slip away by not being competative. In all of this this, each of us has to step up to the plate and begin to address the fact that America has spent money beyond our means. Personal sacrifice will be first on our agenda and rightly so. We voted for Bush and now we get to feel the full impact of that choice.
Posted by: fran | October 18, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
foxnewslady: It is the republicans that are in a panic right now. you see the Presidency slipping from your grasp and the only thing you can do is attack others because you have no basis in your arguement. your party lack substance, you have nothing better to do than to be just like McCain and be negative. Oh the small minds of the Republican party…
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Hey, Foxnewslady, you know the funniest thing about the Bill Ayers bullsh:t you are throwing around????
Bill Ayers is a professor of education! He has taught thousands of students, who for the most part have become teachers! Now the terrorists who have been taught by the terrorist, are now out there teaching the next wave of terrorists! And you aren’t doing a damn thing about it!
Ah! Hahahaha!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Oh I am so sorry, was that not PC using the word hood? Could not remember how to spell the big word version of hood, Ill check with Ludicris maybe he has some input!! We did not forget ludicris did we? He was the guy that said Barry would paint the White house Black, that was not a racial comment he made was it? I am sure he meant no more harm than the great Rev Wright!
Posted by: David of Baltimore | October 18, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Independent, you are neither a realist or an Independent. You are a typical follower of the crowd, without learning anything from the source. Yes, WMD were removed from Iraq just before the invasion, but not all of them. YELLOW CAKE WAS REMOVED SECRETLY ONLY A FEW WEEKS AGO, FLOWN OUT BY PLANE. It was found quite a long time ago and we were criticized for not getting it out sooner. We love to research and take worthwhile subscriptions that are not hearsay and lies, like the NY TIMES has been in litigation over several times, of late. We love the truth and don’t care what anyone else believes as long as our insatiable appetite for truth is appeased. We don’t suffer fools well.
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
I feel sorry for republicans. Any time you disagree with them they will call you un-patriotic. As if they are the only patriots created by GOD. Show how good you are instead of trying to show bad someone may be!
I am an independant in general. I did not vote for Bill Clinton. However, I feel compelled to support democrats.
God bless America ( I hope I am allowed to say this )
Posted by: Ramesh Dave | October 18, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Badger, did you see the picture of McCain at the Acron fundraiser in 2006???? Ah! Hahahaha! Can you be anymore republican????? Holy crap! I insulted you, I called you a republican!
Ah, Hahaha!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Independent, I am sorry to say, you are not funny or independent and are a crashing boor like antoine. You are fortunate some more intelligent people waste time with your foolish blithering. Good night and hope we don’t meet again! :D
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Foxnewslady! Are you serious??? They took them out before the invasion???? Come on! you’re killing me!!
No really! You believe your own bullsh:t!
Ah! hahahaha. Really, your killing me!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Ayers, ACORN, Antoine, Auchi, Alinski, and we’re not even out of the A’s yet.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Badger, are you from wisconsin????
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
He didnt really contribute over $800,000.00 to a front group for ACORNS PROJECT VOTE………… Oh he did? My bad.
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Your bad. I donated several thousands to the Red Cross after 9/11 and we know it never got to the people like it was supposed to. Does that make me bad or responsible for the Red Cross failure?
We seem to forget something else here. It was VOTER REGISTRATION fraud (alleged) not voter fraud and it seems to me that the agencies in question were doing what they were supposed to and that was turn them over to the proper people for review. Individual people were trying to make a buck as they were being paid per registration. If you register the same person 75 times are you now also saying they will be able to vote 75 times? In my state that would not be possible as this would be caught just like it did. The people who registered these fake voter need to be called in an made accountable.
Posted by: fran | October 18, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Hey Fran, you sound pretty bitter about McCain trading up. Are you saying you hate him for choosing to divorce and remarry? How about that Edwards? Boy he would have made a great candidate? How bout that Bill, thats a role model if I ever saw one, I am going to read that story of greatness to my kids. Probably the only presidential library that has an “Adults only” section. Too bad Obama is not allowed in there yet.
If you have a complex Fran please feel free to contact me at dazoom_2000ATyahoo.com, I am a therapist and would be happy to provide a free consult as I really do care about my fellow human but dont feel I need to be a lib to make others believe so…
Posted by: David of Baltimore | October 18, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
So what if McCain attended an acorn fundraiser one time? politicians always speak to different organizations. Hello?? Anybody home? McCain doesnt have a pattern of befriending radical left organizations, Obama certainly does.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
We bring up REZCO, the jail bird, Ayers, the terrorist, Khalid al-Mansour, the black panther associations, to show the kind of people the Obama’s are. Birds of a feather, flock together, Antoine and remember, Ignorance is not bliss.
foxnewslady: Does G. Gordan Libby mean anything to you? here’s something you should read about McCain. talk about “Palin” around with terrorist:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/mccain-transition-chief-a_n_134595.html
the things that make you go, “hmmmm”…
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Ayers a professor? He is also a terrorist. What does that say about American schools? We don’t believe in public Education and are very selective to see our friends, family and children attend the proper schools, are brought up with good manners and get a decent education. AYERS school is one of those schools that rate among the smallest group of students that succeed and lowest rate of college students while they use more tax payers money than other more resourceful schools. Please don’t mention terrorists to us again. Obama campaign imported more than 50,000 to his circus tent event, to make Obama look good, some said it was a free trip, but they still wont vote for a man with his background and reputation.
Posted by: foxnewslady | October 18, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
What do you mean that McCain is struggling to find the right tone to pull ahead on Obama? Do you know that after the Alfred Smith Charity Dinner, ACORN is firing up working harder for the community registering new and make up voters to make sure to break the tie, every multiple votes count? If Obama said we can see the Russian tearoom from the door step, then when we are getting there we can celebrate having Chinese vodka.
Posted by: nocatnowaco | October 18, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Badger! Give me a break! What about G. Gordon Liddy, he is an american terrorist, and McShame is friends with him! Didn’t you see the deer in the headlights look McShame gave letterman last night when he brought it up!
Ah! Hahaha, you republican clown. Well, are you from Wisconsin???
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
fox and badger – and where ARE you on Saturdays, Sundays, evenings – listening to your favorite talking heads? I will tell you where we are – working our butts off for the Obama/Biden ticket. Canvaasing, phone banking, shaking hands, meeting our neighbors, talking with voters in all parts of the country, registering voters….thousands of volunteers just like me who put our energy and our support where you put your mouths.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Lily wrote in 20 different blogs under 24 different names: “…blah blah blah…”
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To Lily = Sandy = all other Obama Robots:
I suggest that when you decide to write under two dozen different names per blog (i.e. Sandy, Concerned American, etc) you change your IP once in a while!
We know how the Obama Machine works. Stop misleading people that it is the McCain people doing this.
Has it cross your mind that people who post here and other blogs could also be the moderators of the respective blogs? Please be aware that moderators do have access to your IP addresses.
(speaking about MORONS FOR OBAMA….)
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Foxnewslady, you are killing me, you are actually acting like your sh:t don’t stink! Come on and tell us the truth, your stocks are now worthless, and you will be moving out of your house soon!
Ah! Hahahaha! You can tell a republican from a mile away!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
REASONS NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA:
http://www.donotvoteforobama.com/
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
Hey Fran, you sound pretty bitter about McCain trading up. Are you saying you hate him for choosing to divorce and remarry? How about that Edwards? Boy he would have made a great candidate? How bout that Bill, thats a role model if I ever saw one, I am going to read that story of greatness to my kids. Probably the only presidential library that has an “Adults only” section. Too bad Obama is not allowed in there yet.
If you have a complex Fran please feel free to contact me at dazoom_2000ATyahoo.com, I am a therapist and would be happy to provide a free consult as I really do care about my fellow human but dont feel I need to be a lib to make others believe so…
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Thanks for the kind offer.
As for McCain’s actions, I do look at how one treats their family. I did not vote for Clinton or was a fan of Edwards. I voted for Bush and one thing can be said about him, he is faithful to Laura.
I did not agree with President Bush on many issues including Iraq but he was the better choice both times. This time Obama is the better choice.
Posted by: fran | October 18, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
Is Gordon Liddy an unrepentant terrorist? No, he is a military veteran, and ex FBI agent, and NOT an ANTI_AMERICAN like obamas pals. Liddys thing wasnt against the USA, it was against corrupt elements of the opposing party, and those who were anti-american.
And, what did Todd Palin blow up?
The AIP is nothing but a group of people who want less government intervention in their lives. (You know,,, the way it was supposed to be when the bill of rights was introduced and finalized in 1791) ?
They dont like Big Brother dictating where their kids should go to school, or that they should be over- taxed to pay for social programs, and welfare for the those to stupid or too lazy to earn their money. Know anybody that fits that description?
States were supposed to be able to make their own laws, and government was supposed to work for the states,and the country not the other way around.
Obama ,and Ayers want to go in the exact opposite direction. They want government run society where hard working people pay the way of the government, who pocket some of the money, and create bureaucracy after bureacracy to cater to the lazy, and useless.
PS “G. Gordon Liddy has acted in several films, including The Highwayman, Street Asylum, Camp Cucamonga, Adventures in Spying and Rules of Engagement[11]. He also appeared in the television shows 18 Wheels of Justice and MacGyver, had a recurring role on Miami Vice, and guest starred in Al Franken’s TV show LateLine. Liddy appeared on a celebrity edition of the NBC TV show Fear Factor on September 12, 2006 (filmed in November, 2005). At 75 years of age, Liddy was the oldest contestant ever to appear on the show. Liddy beat the competition in the first two stunts, winning two motorcycles custom built by Metropolitan Chopper. In the final driving stunt, Liddy crashed and was unable to finish.”
Sounds like a man who is in demand, not a man shunned by mainstream america.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
McCain made that famous Campaign stop in July at that bar and grill. His most famous quote is the one where John McCain said that his wife could win the beauty contest that the motorcycle club holds there. But…
The only problem with that beauty contest is It’s humiliation to the women who won in the past. Yet…
There is a bigger problem. That motorcycle club is actually a White Supremist motorcycle violent Home Grown terrorists group, whose members killed people of color, ethnic group, religion, or a different sounding name. And still I can recall John McCain’s speech…
McCain was so eloquent when he spoke the words telling that group during that campaign stop that he, John McCain, was just like them.
Posted by: mere | October 18, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
If I remember correctly, it was Muslims that hijacked the planes and flew them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. It was the Muslims that actually got American into a War of terriorist. It is the Muslim belief that Christians are infedels and if you kill a Christian, then their God/Allah will reward you with X amount of virgins. Christians are taught to forgive and to love thy enemy and neighbor. All I have read on the internet and doing my own research, is that all the Muslim countries, dictators like Chavez, racist like Farrakhan, Rev. Wright are all backing Obama. You are what you are by the company that you surround yourself with.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | October 18, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
Badger, you’re killing me with your sh:t, man! You can polish a turd better than anyone I have ever seen!
Ah! Hahahaha! Why won’t you tell me you are from wisconsin???
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Hey Sandy, if you really want to impress me , send a pic to guitarbliss@live.com
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
55mariposa, are you serious???? I can’t believe how much political sarcasm there is on this blog!
Ah! Hahaha! What else do you have??? I can’t stop laughing! You’re funny!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
Badger and foxnewslady: i have yet to hear you talk about issues. that’s the reason why Deomcrats are taking over. you’re the best at looking past issues, pointing fingers and name calling.When will you get to the issues of America? your sanity depends on McCain winning the White House. BTW: Canada is very cold this time of year. hope you got your longjohns.
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
Natasha – sorry this is the only name I use – I do not have to resort to Republican tactics. Oh, that is right, just remembered – Republicans cannot tell tactics from strategy.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
Obama the magic negro is going to prison.
I’m Tony Rezko and I approve this message.
Posted by: Rezko | October 18, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
antoine
I will vote on records not rhetoric. Obama has no record to back up his rhetoric, Mccain and Palin do.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Antoine, you’re killing me! They are going to go to Canada! They’re socialists up there! Even those these republican pukes are responsible for america going socialist, they would never actually move to a socialistic country!
You’re killing me! I can’t stop laughing!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
Badger – sorry, you are a waste of my time!
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
Badger, does arrest records really count to you! Damn! you are a funny guy. You must be from wisconsin, you unemployed cheese eating brat head!
Ah! Hahahaha! You’re killing me!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
Rezco, nice jab! How long did you work on that one????
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
Bottom line, obamas plan is redistribution of wealth, and class warfare. Who the fk is he dictate what we get to keep, and who he passes our money out to? obama is a joke, and the ultimate con artist. I am amazed that more people cant see through this empty vessel. Don’t listen to his mouth, LOOK AT HIS RECORD.
Posted by: Badger
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Obama is a MARXIST. Check this out… (btw, the “Obama KGB Squad” took the video of the following interview down – this is Obama’s “democracy”. That’s OK, the text has been preserved…. :-)
By Scott Miller
Karl Marx, author of The Communist Manifesto, penned the recap of his basic economic philosophy below:
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”
Barack Obama, in an interview with Bill O’Reilly on Fox News, admits that he shares the above Marxist economic theory. Watch this (5:47 into the clip, but watch the whole clip):
“If am sittin’ pretty, and you’ve got a waitress who is making minimum wage plus tips, and I can afford it and she can’t, what’s the big deal for me to say I’m going to pay a little bit more… that is neighborliness”
No Senator, that is Marxism. What kind of dementia makes these liberal Marxists think they have the right to tell someone else, another free human being, how much money they should or should not have? It’s none of your damn business Barack… but the hell out!
And some of you thought I was exaggerating when I said this clown was a Marxist…
http://theconservativepost.com/WordPress/?p=550
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Hey! Where did all of you republican pukes go? Come on, you were cracking me up!!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
So Sandy , tell me what it is that youre telling the people as you canvas their neighborhood, and shake their hands? That Obama chose to spend 20 years in a racially divisive church? Do you tell them that Obama chose to launch his political career in the home of an admitted unrepentant terrorist? Do you tell them that Obama is the most liberal senator in the senate, and voted 96% of the time with Reid, and Pelosi? Do you mention Rezko, and Pfleger?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
Natasha, your right! Obama is a Marxist! Ah! Hahaha. Is that because the republicans have screwed us so bad that the only choice we have left is Marxism?
Ah! hahahaha! You’re killing me!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
…You are what you are by the company that you surround yourself with. Posted by: 55Mariposa
I take issue with that statement. If i was what i am by the company that i keep, then i should have been racist, however i am not because i am not a product of my environment and my friends do not make me who i am. i make myself who i am. You cannot pronounce someone as guilty by association because of the company they keep. can’t Judge a book by it’s cover.
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
Drink baby drink baby drink…We are getting there!
Posted by: nocatnowaco | October 18, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Rezko – that was an outright racist statement – nothing like that belongs on any blog.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
Yeah, Badger, we tell them that Rezco sent us!
Ah! Hahahaha, you are clever!
Hey, in wisconsin, did your folks own the one grocery store, or one of the three bars in your town? Huh? which one?
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
Badger is not a Repub, Badger is an Independant. And Badger is not from Wisconsin.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
If I remember correctly, Sarah Palin was married to Todd Palin during the time that Todd was a member of the Alaskan Independence who do not nor will they pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America.
If my memory serves me right, Sarah was married to Todd while he wanted Alaska to break free from the United States of America and not pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States.
The VP candidate Sarah is still Married to Todd who did not want to pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America while he was a member of the Alaskan Independence.
Posted by: mere | October 18, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
Badger is an independent! Ah! Hahahaha! You can’t even admit that you are a republican puke! You’re killing me!
Sure you are, I can tell. So which was it? Oh, yeah, the one gas station in town, right?
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Badger – oh, that is easy! Senator Obama has a supple intelligence, the ability to assimilate difficult concepts, and synthesize insights from the complexity that surrounds all. He was a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, created a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment.
And, that each of us is struggling to hear our conscience, and heed its demands; each of us, despite our differences, united in our great cause, and respectful of the goodness in each other.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
In the words of the man, the myth, the legend…
Democratic debate January 2008
BARACK OBAMA: “I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it. And my desk in my office doesn’t look good. I’ve got to have somebody around me who is keeping track of that stuff,” said Obama.
What a genius.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
There ya go Badger, stick it to him! You are bad! Nice zinger!
Keep me laughing boy, keep me laughing!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
Natasha: stop. just stop. where is the issues? you keep talking about his character but not his plans for America. all we hear from you is Marxist this and Marxist that. you still have no basis in your arguement. all you talk about is Ayers, Rezko, Rev. Wright. don’k you know that the more you bring them up, the more advertising you give them. you are actually doing them a favor. you are making them more popular then you want them to be and that is why Obama will be president.
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
sandy
Very well articulated, but it sounds like a rhetorical smoke screen. What did Obama do for his district of southside Chicago? Why is his district no better off today than it was 20 years ago?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Come on Badger, keep them coming! You are a funny guy!
Hey, where did Foxnewslady go? She was full of sh:t too. She had me laughing so hard, I almost took a republican in my pants!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
Boy, you republican pukes can sure dish it out, but you can’t take it.
President Obama! Get used to it!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
Independent realist: she’s packing her bags getting ready for that long trip to canada. you know Republicans got 17 days to get their Passports together….
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
Antoine, where do you really think they are going to move to? It sure isn’t Canada, like I said earlier, they are socialists up there. What country will welcome half witted, dictators with no money?
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
Do you think they will swim across the Rio Grande into Mexico? Maybe they can find work there.
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am
Ok Democrats, Let un not get too cocky. Remember New Hampshire.
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am
sandy said – Senator Obama has a supple intelligence, the ability to assimilate difficult concepts, and synthesize insights from the complexity that surrounds all.
Sandy, did you know that Obama claimed that the reason Hillary won Kentucky in the democratic primary was because Kentucky is closer to Arkansas, than it it is to Illinois?
Maybe Barack needs a little lesson in simple geography, or to brush up on his “ability to assimilate difficult concepts, and synthesize insights from the complexity that surrounds all.
Kentucky actually borders his state of Illinois.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am
Independent realist: in a word: CUBA….
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
I am not a Democrat, but it is fun kicking republican pukes when they are down.
They make me laugh so hard!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
There ya go, Cuba! That’s perfect. I am sure they have enough gas in their yachts to get there!
Ah! Hahahaha! That was great!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Antoine: I’m not going anywhere. After 4 years of Marxism, you will be begging for a republican president back. A black Jimmy Carter anyone? From my cold dead hands, missy.
Posted by: mikewolf9 | October 18, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Maybe we can separate Alaska from the union and move sarah palin and the rest of the disgruntled, disinfranchised republicans there and they can rename Alaska Palinland
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am
There ya go mikewolf! 4 years of Marxism and we will be begging for a republican president! Thats great, 2 fantasies in one statement. Marxism, and wanting a republican president again!
Thats great! Republicans winning again! Ah! Hahahaha!
Now that’s funny!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
mikewolf9: i guess if you survived 8 years of Bush and republican rule, you can survive 8 years of prosperity under democratic rule. change is good. don’t worry, it wont hurt…. much…..
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
Antoine….but then the dems that suddenly wake after Obama takes over and starts imposing more fascism and economy dies completely off would be flooding over the borders illegally.
Posted by: chattyway | October 18, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
Badger – you are too easy! What have you done to improve your neighborhood the last 20 years? Senator Obama has done more than his share – are you a community organizer? Senator Obama passed up a high-paying job to work as a community organizer in his neighborhood? Were you in a legislature in your state? Were you a U.S Senator? Are you able to come out of nowhere, win the presidential nomination for your party? Meet with world leaders? Garnish a crowd of 500,000 cheering, American flagging Germans? You have all the RNC talking points memorized properly. But all YOU can do is bring up everything that has been debunked thousands of times. When you go out and work your butt off for your candidate, then you might have some credability. Senator Obama’s neighborhood is no better off than the rest of the country. Your candidate and his president pal saw to that.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
Chattyway, fascism from a democrat! I like how you tried to turn that around and make it sound like the democrats are Fascists. I bet the next thing you will say that the democrats will start a war with an arab country.
You repubs kill me! What else do you have????
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
Venzeulea and Cuba have sucked wind since socialism took over………Obama will be much the same. Does everyone know what type of poorly constructed raft that they will be using to escape to Canada.
Posted by: chattyway | October 18, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
Cuba will probably look pretty good after Obama get done destroying america. But the GOP isn’t going anywhere. The chance to grind up this inexperianced little pip-squeek is just too tempting to miss. Once his fawning media and sunshine partriot followers desert him.
Posted by: mikewolf9 | October 18, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am
Chattyway, no way, you’re killing me!!!! A raft to Canada!!! Now thats funny, because a normal person would just drive over the boarder!
Ah! Hahahahaha! You pukes are funny!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am
chattyway: i was hoping to see you tonight. a roast is not a roast with you.
It will take only one republican to be like little mikey of the life cereal commericals. “let’s get Mikey(McCain) he’s a Maverick, he’ll try anything”
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
Nice jab there mikewolf, you are pretty clever too.
So, tell me, did you vote for Bush too???
Ah! Hahahaha, you did didn’t you! Nice call!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Badger – and McCain knows world geography? Thinks Zapatero is the leader of Mexico. Cannot tell Sunnis from Shiites, does not know who is in command of military coalition forces, thinks Czechoslovakia is still a country, thinks Iran is bordered by Pakistan, need I go on? Okay – McCain wrecked 5 fighter planes and was the 5th dumbest person in his class makes McCain a better choice? I personally want the smartest guy in the room to represent me…..not the fool who skated by because his grandfather and daddy were Admirals.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am
Hey! Republican pukes! Where did you all go?? Is wrestling on now????
Come on! I was having fun! Poor sports!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
Bush beat your Democrats TWICE !! Who’s laughing now ! Kerry or Gore. Bush, the biggest numbskull in the world beat you twice ! HA HA to you.
Posted by: mikewolf9 | October 18, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
mikewolf9: so you rather have the geriatric take over and drop dead in the first 100 days? do you really think that you want to hear Sarah Palin’s voice for 4 years? think about it. 4 years of “you betcha”? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
I love the endorsement given to Senator Obama by the LA Times: “He Represents The Nation As It Is, And As It Aspires To Be.”
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
Mikewolf, I am laughing now! You picked a looser….twice!
Damn boy, how stupid can you be??? By the way, didn’t bush steal the first election????
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
Unlicensed Plumber I am
And I hate green eggs and ham
And back taxes
And the Republic for which they stand
Once I get rich I will find me a niche
And become richer rich
And the pipes I install
Will put you in the hole
And my kids in college
And when rich I become
I will move to Rich-stan
And I will let you eat green eggs and ham.
Posted by: Citizen No 300 000 001 | October 18, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
Bush, the biggest numbskull in the world” – happy to hear that you Republicans can admit it!
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am
David of Baltimore wrote:
“…Funny part is these Americans are already occupied blogging and attending the Obama pro-socialism rallies. Anyway if you really study this its the same idiots preaching the same smears and I really think nobody is really watching or reading besides us. How many time do you really see a reponse to your posts? Maybe its a bot the Obama people have running on their blog servers, that would explain why they are always off topic and never make sense.”
Posted by: David of Baltimore
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David…you hit the nail on the head!
Funny part the Obama trolls each posting with 24 different names – those Marxist (un)Americans – are already living off your taxes and my taxes, while they are busy 24/7 preaching about their “Chosen One” -”God’s Gift to America” per Bela Pelosi!
I guess you noticed that they have all shut-up about the fact that the New York Times (a most liberal newspaper) has trashed Obama’s “Nationalized Medicine Plan”….
Marxist Obama and those who support his “Nationalized Medicine Plan” can pack their bags and move to Cuba or North Korea!
The New York Times trashes Obama’s Health Care Plan
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/23/us/23health.html?ref=policy&pagewanted=all
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am
Sandy: How many planes have you ever flown ? Like None ! You’re a no nothing ground pounder. I have a pilots license, do you, Little Miss aviation expert ?
Posted by: mikewolf9 | October 18, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
Natasha, your back! It was getting a little quite around here. The laughter was dying out.
So tell me your best Obama fantasy!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Sandy, As it aspires to be—-Communist? or Terroristic?
Posted by: chattyway | October 18, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
All you republican pukes are ganging up on poor sandy.
Chattyway, are you a terrorist???
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Wow Mikewolf, you have a pilots license??? Pretty impressive!
So do you run drugs?????
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
Natasha: here is the same NY times beating up on McCains health care plan.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/us/politics/09health.html?fta=y
Touche’
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Natasha, Antoine is talking to you. Where did you go???
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
No, I’ll leave that to Bill Clinton’s friends.
Posted by: mikewolf9 | October 18, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
Natasha is from Russia and a Soviet agent too, living off our hard earned money supporting the only thing she nows – totalitarian system.
Want chaos – vote republican!!!
Posted by: Citizen No 300 000 001 | October 18, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
Really???? Bill Clinton’s friends run drugs?????? You have a website that backs that up???
Ah! Hahahahaha! You are a funny guy, you had me going there thinking that Bill Clinton’s friends run drugs!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
If you don’t want to be ganged up on, don’t shoot your mouth off about things you have no understanding of.
Posted by: mikewolf9 | October 18, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
mikewolf9 – well, goodie for you! The fact that McCain lost 5 fighter planes has nothing to do with whether I can fly a plane, but IF McCain COULD. Obviously, McCain could not, nor could he keep his anticts in check and was the instrument that caused the Forrestal disaster. Great hotshot, that McCain. Had it not been for his grandfather and father, McCain would never had graduated from the Naval Ncademy nor would he have even BECOME a fighter pilot. No one that graduates at the bottom of his class is even eligible to do so.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
she knows better. as i have told her on several occations, she has not basis in her arguements. whatever points she make, i am always one step ahead. oh well, it’s not easy being democrat.
Posted by: antoine | October 18, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
Mikewolf, who are you talking to about being ganged up on????
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
Ok, I’m out of here for tonight. We now return you the the regulary scheduled Obama circle jeck.
Posted by: mikewolf9 | October 18, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am
“If you don’t want to be ganged up on, don’t shoot your mouth off about things you have no understanding of.”
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mikewolf9 – you mean like you do?
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am
Antoine, don’t worry, it is going to keep getting easier!
Hell, your party will hold the presidency, and both houses of congress with fillabuster proof numbers!
Hell man, your guys will be in charge! Time to fix everything the republican pukes have screwed up!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am
See ya mikey! Happy plane flying! Ah! Hahahahaha!
President Obama! Get used to it!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am
Okay kids, it looks like all of the bullies have ran away!
Antoine and Sandy, have a great evening, and remember to hold your heads high! You are going to win this thing hands down. Just make sure your guy fixes things!
Ah! Hahaha!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
Barack Obama Couldn’t Pass a Routine Background Investigation
By Gregory D. Lee
Retired DEA Supervisory Special Agent
October 10, 2008
A while back, radio talk show host Michael Savage brought up the notion that Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama couldn’t pass a background investigation to become an FBI special agent.
He doesn’t know how right he is.
Sen. Barack Obama wouldn’t pass a routine government background investigation, not only to become an FBI agent, but a police officer as well. If he were a soldier, his background would preclude him from obtaining a security clearance. He wouldn’t even qualify to be a support person in a federal agency, such as secretary, for that matter. His past cocaine usage disqualifies him from being a DEA agent.
There’s another big problem Sen. Obama has: His association and business relationship with Weatherman Underground founder William Ayers, a former domestic terrorist who is still unrepentant for his bombings on U.S. landmarks and police stations. Usually, the company you keep reveals who you really are. Ayers felt then, as he does now, that America is the evil of the world and needs punishing for past and current bad acts. Not many federal agencies would want someone with that kind of chip on his shoulder working for it.
Also, Sen. Obama’s association with Tony Rezko and the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) come to mind. Rezko was just convicted of promoting corruption among Chicago politicians. He helped in the purchase of the senator’s home and was a campaign fundraiser for Obama. ACORN is being investigated by the feds for systematic voter registration fraud. Not good things.
Let’s not forget about Sen. Obama’s pastor and mentor for 20 years, America-hater Rev. Jeremiah Wright. When first questioned about his membership in Wright’s black theology church, Sen. Obama first denied knowing Rev. Wright harbored such negative feelings about the U.S., but after being further pressed, he dismissed the reverend’s conduct as like a “crazy uncle” who lived in the basement. He finally decided that he couldn’t politically afford to stay in the church, and dropped his membership.
To keep job applicants honest, many government agencies such as DEA, FBI, CIA and others require them to take a polygraph examination. Do you think Sen. Obama could pass a polygraph when he approves an ad that mocks Sen. John McCain for being unable to send e-mails without mentioning his poorly mended broken arms while in custody of the North Vietnamese which prevents him from manipulating the computer keyboard? He’s not computer illiterate, he’s handicapped!
Would you want a police officer in your city associating with such people? Not likely. But Obama supporters ignore these associations because they are desperate for a Democrat in the White House.
A federal government full-field background investigation would also look for prior inconsistencies, exaggerations and outright lies on an application for employment.
I once conducted a background check for an applicant to become a secretary for DEA. She had previously worked for a large police department as a secretary, and left the job to have a child. She was ready to re-enter the workforce and wanted to work for DEA. She seemed perfect for the job until the background investigation revealed that she lied on her application. She claimed to have 30-semester hours of college in office management, when in reality she attended one day of one class and then dropped out. The fact that she lied was sufficient justification to consider her application no further. After all, if she would lie about that, what else has she lied about? Obviously the woman lacked integrity, which is a vital qualification for any position within the federal government, even a DEA secretary who would have access to all investigative reports.
I’d like to conduct Sen. Obama’s background investigation. I’d review his application for the Illinois state bar and see if he mentioned the drug usage that he disclosed in one of his books. If the question about drugs was asked, and he denied it at the time, his integrity is immediately put into question. He revealed it in his book to float a balloon to test his potential as a viable presidential candidate. Admitting it prevented his political opponents from attacking him about it. In fact, in the eyes of many Sen. Obama supporters, using drugs enhances his resume. It’s something they can relate to.
Personally I like my presidents to not associate with known criminals, be drug-free for a lifetime, have unquestioned integrity and be able to pass a simple background investigation.
Gregory D. Lee is a nationally syndicated columnist and a retired DEA Supervisory Special Agent. He can be reached at http://www.gregorydlee.com.
http://www.northstarwriters.com/gl045.htm
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
Oh, hold on, maybe I was leaving too soon. Natasha….. More bullsh:t????
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am
Natasha, how do you feel about your president being a criminal???? Hey, that president bush, he is one popular guy! Ah! Hahahaha!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
President Obama! Get used to it!
Ah! hahahaha!
Posted by: Independent realist | October 18, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
Independent realist – thanks! I have a busy day tomorrrow and must crawl into my nice, warm water bed – my head just dancing with the Republicans on this site who have only half a brain – voting against their own interests, claiming they support an old man who lives in the past and an airhead who has a hocky puck for a brain – one can only feel sorry for them. Have a great weekend – hope we meet, again!
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
McCains refundable health care tax credits of $2,500 and $5,000 per person will also be payed to people who DOESNT pay income tax.
Say hello to the new member of the socialist club: Comrade McCain.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 18, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
When even GOP Senators like Susan Collins (R-Maine) call McCain out for his lies, you know he has crossed way over the ethics line.
Posted by: Bugg | October 18, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am
ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos
truth be told georgie is a silver tongued democrat……boy could this guy sell all the lemons off the lot….
Posted by: johnXdem | October 18, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
Subject: Dear Red States
We’ve decided we’re leaving. We intend to form our own country, and
we’re taking the other Blue States with us.
In case you aren’t aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon,
Washington , Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and
all the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the
nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New
California.
To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave
states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get
Elliot Spitzer. You get Ken Lay.
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood.
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss.
We get 85 percent of America ‘s venture capital and entrepreneurs.
You get Alabama .
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red
states pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the
Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a
bunch of single moms.
Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and
anti-war, and we’re going to want all our citizens back
from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your
evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to
their deaths for no purpose, and they don’t care if you don’t show
pictures of their children’s caskets coming home. We do wish you
success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we’re not
willing to spend our resources in Bush’s Quagmire.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80
percent of the country’s fresh water, more than 90 percent of the
pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95
percent of America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at
state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high-tech
industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods,
sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools, plus
Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.
With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with
88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care
costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the
tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern
Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh,
Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah
was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred
unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent
say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was
involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you
are people with higher morals then we lefties.
By the way, we’re taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt
weed they grow in Mexico.
Peace out,
Blue States
Posted by: Michael | October 18, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am
I think the negativity will continue because it keeps the news on McCain while keeping it off the economy. As bad as he might get beat by the negative campaigning, a discussion about his economic plans would surely yield even worse results. If he does go positive it saddens me to think that it might work. The prospect of having McCain/Palin running the country is truly a frightening thing…truly frightening.
Truth be told, people that can get away for voting multiple times for Obama are doing the country a great service. No way ANY WAY Obama
Posted by: Jeff | October 18, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am
Obama’s Illegal Alien Roommate
Obama’s friend and roommate while he attended Columbia University was an illegal alien from Pakistan. Obama sure seems to have had a lot of friends from Pakistan.Obama had numerous unpaid tickets while in school. He only paid them before he ran for president. Obama doesn’t seem to like to obey the laws….
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=864701
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am
List of Barack Obama’s friends and roommates
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of_Barack_Obama's_friends_and_roommates
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am
There is one area the McCain/Palin cannot and will not do. That is have direct conversations with the people. I was so very impressed when Obama personally knocked on doors in a middle class neighborhood in a small town in Pennsylvania and talked issues with the people directly.
Now that is someone I want for President. In my 39 years of voting in Presidential elections this is the first time I saw this. That is how you get to know the people’s problems and issues first hand. A man humble enough to work with the people and listen. A man who cares.
This man Obama will make a great President!
Posted by: Newsrook | October 18, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am
TIME MAGAZINE PHOTO
Obama: No Hand on Heart for National Anthem
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1662530_1446035,00.html
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 4:49 am 4:49 am
OBAMA OUT OF TUNE?
ABC News Video
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3759803
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 4:56 am 4:56 am
Well, they’ve shown us Mr. Hyde and now they want to show us Dr. Jeckle. Too little too late, we already know that Mr. Hyde is just under the surface waiting for the next night fall.
Posted by: No On McCAIN | October 18, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am
Mccain backers are telling him that he needs to go back to his fighter pilot days and attack Obama with more vigor in the remaining days of the campaign. What they neglect to remember is that McCane was such a lousy fighter pilot that he was shot down over North Vietnam and was in captivity for half of the war. Maybe he should just try being a decent human being and start talking about the difficult issues facing Americans families.
Posted by: johnnylee | October 18, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am
I was so very impressed when Obama personally knocked on doors in a middle class neighborhood…
Posted by: Newsrook
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Yes, he is something else, isn’t he?
He has that “charisma” to knock on doors…
Obama personally knocked on Billy Ayers door in a Chicago neighborhood…
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am
Obama would be a great film star…
(Btw, he is the one running for President – not Satah Palin!)
1. Yes, Sarah Palin is being drug around in the dirt because she is a Republican woman and how dare the person call Sarah a Caribou Barbie! That is one of the most sexist comments, yet. Also, for the one who called her “trailer trash” that just shows to me that it is not the Republicans who are elitists but the Democrats.This should be very offensive to those whose homes are trailers and who don’t make a six figure income.
2.It keeps coming up about the Bridge to Nowhere. Obama has ALSO been in favor of MANY things and then changed his mind….Israel/Pakistan…Russian/Georgia, etc. but NO-ONE dwells on that. In fact, he can’t make a decision; he just goes with the flow after asking dozens of advisors. He is charmismatic, I will give him that but charisma isn’t what we need. Some of you mentioned that McCain’s heroism doesn’t qualify him for the White House…well,okay then…neither does being a charismatic celebrity. Obama would be a great film star. He loves the spotlight. He’s an eloquent speaker. I’ve heard that John McCain is not. Hmmm…someone who’s become good at smoothly eloquent speaking probably has learned to make words work for him and twist them when necessary and people won’t even notice.
3. I’ve noticed that some are comparing Palin’s lack of experience and background to Obama. How come they are not doing the same comparison on McCain and Obama? Why is Joe Biden not the one that is being compared to her? At least, I have not seen much to that;maybe someone can fill me in on somewhere I could see this.
4. It seems Palin has so many sins in her life and McCain, too. Then,I guess the Democrats are without sin. They are presenting themselves as perfect. Too bad the voters are not nearly as perfect as Obama. In the Bible, there was a story about an adulteress that was getting ready to be stoned to death. Jesus told them “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” The Dems have done a great job of casting the stones and hitting Palin.
And, let’s not forget the Democrat who was President, and even though I’m not a Democrat, he did a decent job of the duties in office, yet he was an adulterer while in the office that he was elected to, disappointing Americans, but in this whole election,no one, not even the Republicans (except this one) has brought that up;(which is right thing NOT to do)maybe, it is because we all have skeletons in our closet. Have you ever thought what would come out if you ran for office?
5. The newstands are full of articles tearing Palin down, but I’ve yet to see the faces of Obama (the liberal media’s little darling) or Joe Biden on the covers presented in a negative way. I agree with one blogger who said that these publications are only ruining themselves. Let’s do real journalistic reporting…report the facts, Jack on both sides, both negative and positive and let the readers decide. I would absolutely LOVE to see an article in a mag that compares Obama to McCain and in the same mag Palin to Biden, side by side on issues, skeletons in the closets, biographies, awards and honors….maybe in the form of resumes so the American public could compare and then at the polls hire the ticket they think would be the best for the job.
6. Finally, and then, I’m through. I understand it may be good to understand the candidates’ views based on their faith but it is a little undeserving to undermine one for “praying” that God’s will be done. Our country was founded on a faith in the One True God, The Creator and our laws and values were built upon the Christian faith, but now, it’s not politically correct to be a Christian,no one must renounce their deep beliefs in order to please everyone. I couldn’t see one bit of hatred in the video that has been circulating where she spoke at her church in Alaska. Praying for someone does not cause hatred or racism or sexism. Their beliefs in their faith did not say they hated gays,only that they would be praying for them. And, in the privacy of a church building, they may do whatever (within the law) that they believe. Now that Obama has disowned his pastor, no one has mentioned anymore about how that church shaped his views. They are afraid to because of the venomous rhetoric that came from the pastor’s mouth. Does anyone know what Biden believes;have they gone to a church he attends or does he attend one? What about McCain? What are his religious values? So, then, why does that play into the equation with Palin? I could understand if she were part of an anti-government,hate religion. The most she could be convicted of in her faith is saying that she believes in praying to God, asking His will for the country. Go back in history to other presidents; many were men who prayed or sought God’s will. At least, the great ones did.
Thank you, both Republicans and Democrats for letting me air my feelings. How, sometimes I wish we didn’t have parties. I can’t stand the division and hatred that ensues. Especially when we say “United we stand, Divided we fall.” Let’s just let each other vote our consciences or faith or whatever standard and quit yelling at each other. I really hope that people in other countries don’t read our comments because it will show the United States are not so united after all. And…I will be praying for this election, that God will put in the candidates He wants (and, although I will vote Republican which is voting based on my faith) I know that whichever party gets in will be because God put them there “for such a time as this” and I will relax and support the Preident of the United States and respect the office.
Posted by: Gloria | September 09, 2008 at 01:43 AM
Los Angeles Times
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/campbell-brown.html?cid=130091336
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
Obama Soviet Anthem: Hilarious
http://www.wikio.com/video/389423
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am
REUTERS NEWS
May 9 – On the campaign trail in Beaverton, Oregon, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama mistakenly tells a crowd that’s he’s been to 57 states – with one left to go.
Reuters video:
Obama: I have been in 57 states
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=82127
*** Poor Obama – he got confused with the 57 states of Islam ***
Posted by: Natasha | October 18, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
Poor McCain – he’s tried every other tactic in the book – lies, mis-information, outright slander …and now they want him to be positive and honest?
Its too little too late and near impossible for him to do!
Posted by: America - A Nation Of Sheep | October 18, 2008, 5:47 am 5:47 am
I am conservative republican and will vote for Obama, because Mccain has failed himself and his party and essentially disqualified himself from serious consideration of a presidential vote, When he runs a campaign and acts without a strategy that does not work, Unfortunately, that’s helped Barack paint the Mcstupid as erratic and not stable, which really will be disaster for country to elect such an angry and unstable person as commander in chief.he is so out of touch where he now supports, even in worsening economy, the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.His latest proposal of the day, an “only” $300 billion bailout for the gamblers or idiots (or at best,those caught up in a national “pay later” mindset) who bought more house than they afford.How can McCain call himself a fiscal conservative, and not a socialist, with a straight face?Before days of economy crisis he was saying , that the “fundamentals of the economy are strong,” and then the disingenuous back-track that by “fundamentals,” he meant American workers.His impulsive statement and actions in response to the financial meltdown, he suspended his campaign and suggested to fire the chairman of the Security Exchange Commission, jumping around as unstable and crazy guy in crisis .His reliance on former colleague Phil Gramm as an economic advisor. Gramm’s fingerprints can be found on the Enron meltdown and the current subprime mortgage crisis.Last but not least, his reckless selection of Sarah Palin as vice presidential nominee and Joe plumber to support his tax cut for as wealthy people.
Posted by: tom | October 18, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am
Go watch
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553
Rep. Bachmann talks about “Mc Cain Rebo
Calls- She states / suggests Obama
and anyone for Omama are anti – american / terrorist
This is why these poor sick people need
not to be in office any more “THEY” have hurt our country and continue to do so….
I’m glad Stephanopoulos would like to see more “postive” from the
mcchit/pigchit groupies however this has not ever been. Not from them or anyone who has the mental sickness to think that’s lies are what the “real americans wants” and are about…
WRONG as they have been for many years.
ABC why don’t you cover the Mcchit rebo calls going out to the American????
Posted by: Ced | October 18, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am
Remember the scene in Terminator 2 where the T-1000 “mimetic polyalloy” robot falls into the vat of molten steel and is trying to escape? It keeps trying to come to the surface and takes on every shape it has ever assumed in the hopes one of them will save it. The robot even turns itself inside out in its desperation. John McCain, in the final dying moments of his campaign, reminds me of that. He is trying every trick, every morph, to stay alive. Good luck, Grandpa.
Posted by: Truth | October 18, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
You MUST read this to understand the Real John McCain:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
Posted by: Fairness | October 18, 2008, 6:25 am 6:25 am
The McCain camp will try to have it both ways. The candidates may turn positive, but they are still blanketing my battleground state with nasty Robocalls with false accusations about Ayers. They are putting out nasty pamphlets and the fake food stamps with watermelon and Obama’s picture. To me, all this is an insult. Retirees have lost Two Trillion dollars in their 401Ks in the last two weeks, and McCain-Palin smear. Three quarters of a million lost jobs in nine months and the number is growing, and McCain-Palin smear. People have lost health care, pensions, homes, the ability to send children to higher education, and McCain-Palin smear. McCain-Palin will have gone positive when their Robocalls, 527 ads, pamphlets and other gimmicks are positive, and that will be when hell freezes over. They just don’t care about hurting people.
Posted by: JAB | October 18, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am
“Onlooker” and people like him/her are what is pathetic about the far right – where on earth did the topic of Farrakhan start, and for God’s sake… WHY? Why do the conservative Republicans think they ‘own’ patriotism, or love for America? How infantile is that? If you really, really think (this seems an impossible feat for many Republicans) being ‘liberal’, or ‘inclusive’ is MORE American. Do you (and I’m guessing many of you call yourselves ‘Christian’) think Jesus would endorse the “I’ve got mine – scr*w you!” attitude you have? ***and for the idiot who described what Michelle Obama ATE at a party – well, good for her, she knows how to enjoy life. I can only assume Cindy McCain’s dinner would include a carrot, sparkling water, a ti-ny bit of spritzed spring greens. And a brand new $30,000 dress. Who would YOU rather hang with? (Oh, wait, Cindy has ‘money’ – it would be Cindy, right? Plus, she’s white. Say it.)
Posted by: Sevres Blue | October 18, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am
Did you see how the elites Obama/Biden slammed Joe the plumber. It is laughable
Joe the plumber, Bob the builder, Jill the nurse will end up paying more taxes for their success whereas Obama the politician, Bill Ayers the terrorist “professor”, Rev Wright the sick preacher, Farrakhan the racist, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ( where is he these days) , Pelosi/Reid the socialist income distributors will have a FREE reign destroying the country
A McCain Democrat from Massachusetts…
Posted by: vs | October 18, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am
WOW. . . . I JUST HEARD ON THE NEWS THAT THE McCAIN CAMP IS HIDING THAT McCAIN’S CANCER HAS RETURNED…….. HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THE ELECTION WITH PALIN POSSIBLY SITTING THE THE WING AND A HEATBEAT AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENCY.
Posted by: onevote | October 18, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
MN voter here, 6th district. Michelle Bachman is out of here…spewing her vile hate. Disgusting.
Posted by: jen | October 18, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
The only way for McCain to win is for him to tell the truth about Obama – and that means being negative. Obama’s plan to tax American business out of world competition and his fondness for left wing extremists at home an abroad are the main reasons to vote for McCain
Posted by: DougBH | October 18, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
McCain softening up? Hardly. His latest robo calls are the worst thing yet, and Michelle Bachmann’s hate filled interview on MSNBC yesterday was the scariest interview I have ever heard in my lifetime. Poor Chris Matthews was stunned. He kept saying, “Are you REALLY saying. . .? Do you REALLY believe that?” And smiley faced Michelle even went on to say Congress should be investigated for leftist anti-Americans. McCarthy would be proud.
Posted by: Angry GOP Mom | October 18, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
John Shoot-From-The-Hip-Maverick McCain, jumping on the Joe-the-Plumber thing without all the facts, making a quick decision to embrace a cause he knows little about. Sounds alot like someone we’re all way too familiar with doesn’t it. Yup… it sounds like Mr. GW Bush – someone that McCain claims to be nothing like (10% of the time anyway). Maybe he should next focus on the Florida group forced to bowl in the grass because they lost their bowling alley to hurricanes and foreclosures and now can’t afford lawn care and will soon loose their bowling balls in the tall grass that threatens them.
Posted by: Rick_VT | October 18, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
You don’t have to be a partisan to see how divisive these ads have become. It reminds me of the current administration where Bush carved such a divide in the country that it still exist today. So much for reaching across the aisles. If we are not careful, this country will revert back to the 1950′s where people were so distrustful of each other that everyone was suspected of being a communist.
Posted by: William | October 18, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
I am a child of segregation…I have seen these tactics that McShame and Parrot are inciting…its despicable…the repugnant party claims to be Christian….would Jesus be this nasty…No…the party of postive people is the democratic party…do not be fooled by these tricks of Satan…John Sidney McCain II you once were a honorable man…now you are Satan’s disciple.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Shayla | October 18, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Posted by: tom | Oct 18, 2008 5:56:55 AM
“Tom” How many sites have you been posting those same comments? I have looked at your other past comments and have reached the conclusion that you are full of it. You are no more Republican than Obama is honest. I’d bet you do work for Acorn,too.
Posted by: Texan2112 | October 18, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
Get real! Of course the Trib and the Times have endorsed a Democratic presidential candidate for the first time. Barky is a homie. If they endorse McCain and Barky wins, do you think the Trib and the Times will get any cooperation from Barky’s press office?
Posted by: Sharon | October 18, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
I guess these Einstein’s can’t see that it is not only hurting them in the polls, but also any Republican who is running for re-election.
Posted by: Jwench | October 18, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am
Well, it’s too little, too late for me. Even if McCain does that 180 and turn positive and backoff entirely on the attacks, most voters by now should already made up their minds. I certainly will not fall for any of McCain’s tactics now, since it’s clear to me he truly does not had a good game plan what so ever.
Now if McCain had run a positive campaign since September and had a far better VP candidate, then it would have turn out better for him by now. Yet that didn’t happen, thus why he is now playing defense mostly instead of offense.
Posted by: GWP | October 18, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am
I pray your correct hope-full, I don’t see where McCain is going positive I have heard the Robo calls they are cheap and disgusting a new low as if they had not reached bottom yet but trying real hard to get there fast.
His running mate also made sure she was Acquitted of her charges before the voting in Nov. started. Too bad she had her own panel that she appointed do it for her. I don’t get the reasoning behind a voter falling for this yet again they voted for Bush twice and look where we are today. and now they want THIS. unbeliveable.
Posted by: faxbot | October 18, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
Below is an example the kinds of letters circulating about Obama. This one is from a coastal North Carolina newspaper:
http://www.carteretnewstimes.com/articles/2008/10/17/tideland_news/letters_to_the_editor/doc48f60087c75d6496628332.txt#blogcomments
Obama has a shady past
Published: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
To the editor
The largest migration of Italians, from about 1890 to 1920, came to escape their sharecropper existence. This included my grandparents and their children, my future parents. Sharecropping was a feudal system of slavery. The sharecropper was totally beholden to the demands of the feudal Lord, the landowner. Italians, like many blacks, had escaped from bondage.
According to my dad, in America, Italians quickly became a monolithic voting block for the Democrats because they “were the friends and benefactors of the working man.”
Presently there 18 million Italians, votes that Democrats could count on, until Lyndon Johnson became president. Many Italians, being religious and strongly family oriented, disapproved of the “Great Society” and meddling in family responsibilities. While Italians were strongly voting for democrats, blacks, prior to the Johnson-era had been voting Republican. Blacks presently are about 12 percent (36 million) of the population. Why were blacks voting Republican? Every black leader was a registered Republican, including Dr. Martin Luther King.
Remember, the Republican Party was formed by Lincoln to free the slaves.
Also Republicans sponsored and fought in every state legislature to pass three important Constitutional amendments. These amendments, passed between 1865 and 1870, were Amendment 13 (to end slavery), Amendment 14 (to make slaves citizens) and Amendment 15 (to guarantee voting rights for all citizens).
Finally, the Republicans in the Senate passed the Civil Rights Act over the objections of 27 southern Democrats who voted no. If it were not for the Republicans, we may very well have not had a Civil Rights Act, since the Democrats dominated the House from 1956 until 1994. They also had control or near control of the Senate.
Why then did blacks turn against the party that had done so much to help them? Was Dr. King’s assassination part of a scheme to dispirit the “equality movement” that the Republicans had fought so hard for?
President Johnson, a southern Democrat senator, who, I believe, was a closet racist, cobbled together an important coalition. With Dr. King gone, a new coalition of young black leaders and community preachers and organizers were wed with the liberal media (then the N.Y. Times, ABC, CBS and NBC). It became their mission to flip blacks into the Democratic camp, away from their roots. The media did their part and to this day only reported, “President Johnson passed and signed the Civil Rights Act.”
This oft-repeated lie became ingrained in the ill-informed minds of many Americans, black and white. Johnson designed and passed with southern white segregationist Senators the legislation for the “Great Society.” Young black leaders like Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and Charlie Rangel were used to convince blacks that the Democrat’s good intentions were advantageous for them.
To me and to many others, these community organizers and preachers were the “foremen” of the new plantation, known as the Great Society.
What did this plantation plan accomplish? It put blacks in government paid housing that separated them from family and neighbors. Much of this housing, in cities, became high-rise ghettoes, which were crime and drug infested. Women were paid to have children without “fathers.” Black men were separated from their women and children or there would be no welfare. Black abortions were four times higher than white abortions and 70 percent of black children were born out of wedlock. This was designed to deliver a voting block for Democrats.
Trillions of taxpayer dollars were wasted, the black family was destroyed, but a Democrat victory was assured. Liberal Democrats can say, “Mission accomplished.”
In spite of all this, the polls indicated that 95 percent of blacks would vote for Barack Obama.
Who is Barack? His Hawaiian birth certificate was revised, as stated on the certificate, four months after he was born. The state records department refuses to answer what the revision was. Barack wound up in Chicago’s Cook County as a community organizer for ACORN. Cook County has a reputation as the last of the “Boss” run, mafia-infested, crooked counties in the country. Barack was earning $12,000 per year when he decided to go to Harvard Law School. How did he get in so quickly and easily? Percy Sutton, former Manhattan Borough president and attorney for Malcolm X, wrote a letter as a favor for Dr. Khalid al-Monsour. Shockingly, Barack’s tuition was paid for by Dr. al-Monsour, who was seeking to exert influence as an American representative of Saudi Arabia.
Barack’s friends all have unsavory backgrounds. The list is long, from A to W. Ayers the terrorist, Syrian National, and convicted felon Antonin Rezko to black separatist preacher, Rev. Wright.
Barack was the only Illinois Senator to vote to allow babies to die if they survived an abortion. As a community organizer his job was to get out the vote for Democrats, no matter the cost or legality. Obama himself misspoke of “his Muslim faith” on the George Stephonopolis show.
It seems as if blacks have been so brainwashed as to believe they are voting for a black man. There is research coming out that Barack Hussein Obama’s father may not be all black as he had claimed, but is of some Arab descent. If this were so, then Barack Jr. would be the first Arab American President, not the just the first black president. Barack is 50 percent Caucasian from his mother’s side. Barack’s father was from Kenya and his ancestry has an undetermined portion of Arab. Barack’s father’s birth certificate, if accurate, indicated that some of his family was Arab. As Al Sharpton has said, “Obama was not down for the struggle.” Sharpton must have known that Obama is not the descendant of slaves. Barack claims that his name is African Swahili �- not exactly, his name is Arabic, and “Baracka” means “blessed” in Arabic. Hussein and Obama are also Arabic.
Obama has learned early that to reveal who he is and what his beliefs are can jeopardize his quest for power. There is still time to reassess your “beliefs and do not vote for this packaged person. Vote for your “roots,” vote Republican.
Tony Castagna
Beaufort
Posted by: ChrisD | October 18, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Who cares? Not me. I am sick and tired of seeing him and Pain. They can go crawl back under their rocks and take all their hateful, lying, obnoxious followers with them.
Posted by: durrs | October 18, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
I support Obama because we need a real leader to turn this country around. McSame would turn this country into a 4 year foodfight where nothing gets done!!!
Posted by: JimM | October 18, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Postive…right! his commericals in NC are anything but positive. Glad to see he is using thr Rove and Cheney play book.
just what we need, more of the same.
Vote Obama!
Posted by: scott jeffries | October 18, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
I support Obama because we need a real leader to turn this country around. McSame would turn this country into a 4 year foodfight where nothing gets done!!!
Posted by: JimM | Oct 18, 2008 9:05:02 AM
Sort of reminds me of the last 8. Wait they did do something. They got us into 2 wars and trillions of dollars into debt.
Posted by: Jwench | October 18, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
Just say no to Old men and Parrots!!
Posted by: Jwench | October 18, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
It does not matter what tone McCain or Palin decide to use the voters are now tone deaf. I have turned the volume off.
I will Vote Hope Not Hate.
Obama/Biden 2008
Posted by: Gambi | October 18, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Is it just me or does anyone else get the sense that badger, foxnewslady, natasha, david of baltimore, and vs are simply different screen names of the same person?
Posted by: DR | October 18, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
“Just say no to Old men and Parrots!!”
you mean Biden and Obama of course?
Posted by: / | October 18, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
This is a post worth posting here.
by brotherjames Texas [Oct 18, 2008 7:59:58 AM]
I have a suggesion for Obama’s redistribution of wealth plan. Let’s take the money from the fat cats of Washington’s big government and give it back to the American people who really make this country run. Then, pay them minimum wage and make them operate on a minimum wage budget. Then, we can find out how efficiently Washington can run when they have to operate within their means and not waist taxpayer money. If money is power, then let’s see what it looks like when our government has to tighten its purse strings. Obama says he wants to take from the rich and redistribute it to those who lack opportunity. On the surface he wants equal opportunity prosperity. But, when you take a closer look at Obama’s plan, nobody really prospers except for Washington. Obama is concerned about a great divide between the rich and poor? Well, he will certainly fix that, won’t he? He’ll socialize the country while Washington gets rich off of our tax money. By the time Obama is finished the only prosperity in this country will be in Washington. I want McCain to win this election. But, I am a realist and so I don’t see it happening. A depression is coming under an Obama presidency and apparently a lot of people seems to want it. So, you Obama liberals, let’s have ourselves a good ol’ fashion depression. Let’s all be poor! Because the American dream of prosperity will no longer exist for any of us under the wonderful leadership of your great president Barack Obama.
Posted by: C Good | October 18, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Oh, so the republicans have to be “positive” in there attacks? What? An attack is an attack, by calling it “negative” is truthful, it’s negative for the person it’s issued to. This is one of the many problems with america, the niceness factor. Ohhhh, your not being nice so your Mr. Negativity. How about responding to the negativity that is your party democrats? Why not respond barrack obama. Your response to honest analysis’ is to say “That’s negative”. Well fellow american’s, if we can’t faith truths we are doomed to repeat our failures. This count’s for all of us. But this rings especially true for Barrack Obama. Faith the truth, or live in lies my friend.
Posted by: dan burkard | October 18, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Let’s spread the money around. Those middle class people have enough money that they can share.
Posted by: lois | October 18, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
SHOWING A NICER SIDE TO THOSE WHO ARE OUT OF REALITY OF WHAT THEY ARE REALLY SPEWING. SUCH AS THE ROBO MAKING CALLS SPEWING NASTY LIES, SMILE IN MY FACE AND STAB ME BEHIND MY BACK! UNDER THE RADAR!!!
THATS FINE, BECAUSE I just donated more money to OBAMA campaign and we are going to keep doing what we are doing, and give him a dose of BUSH MEDICINE.
Posted by: EYESURGERY | October 18, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Natasha, There is no “friends” link between Ayers and Obama. This has already been investigated a million times, but you still think the black liberal MUST be hiding these “facts”. You are insane.
Posted by: Jo | October 18, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Lois said “Let’s spread the money around. Those middle class people have enough money that they can share.” You are dense! If you believe that those who make more than $250k per year are “middle class” then you are clearly delusional. All Obama has said is that those who make more should apy more, and he wants the middle class to NOT have to bear the burden. His taxes would be the same as what Clinton taxed and that certainly didnt seem to break the people.
Posted by: Jo | October 18, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Posted by Natasha:
Obviously you have not looked at the latest polls. What happened to your 11 point lead, hah?!
When Obama said the other day, “Don’t get cocky”, I am sure he was addressing many “naives” like you.
**********************************
Obama has 50 major newspaper endorsements as opposed to McCain’s 16.
(This includes an endorsement from the Chicago Tribune which has NEVER endorsed a Democrat for President.)
Who’s naive?
Posted by: Julie | October 18, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
If Obama gets elected I hope everyone realizes you will have given him a clear path to socialism.Do you really want to give up your right to pursue happiness?Do you want Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and Nancy Pelosi running your lives???
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 18, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
reddog0216, You obviously are a fascist, and you think thats fine. Obama is not a socialist, no matter what you think. Hes not gonna take over the country or anything like that. The office of the president is limited in what changes can be made. If he wanted to turn the country socialist he would arm a revolution, and then make any changes he wants. Hes not that kind of person. I love how you dont seem to mention how Bush has eroded our freedoms, and taken over our lives, and trampled the constitution. The right wingers are much more of a threat to our freedoms than the left. Obama is a specialist in knowledge of our constitution, and would help guarantee our freedoms. Bush was a specialist in cocaine use and alcoholism, and cowbiy politics, and McCain is his buddy voting in favor of his radical chages 90% of the time!
Posted by: SemperFi | October 18, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
No Reddog, we want your chimp-boy to sit abck and watch the biggest financial disaster unfold before our eyes as he brings in BIG GOVERNMENT to bail them out. HWat happened to your wonderful deregulation??? Just gave the keys to the fox for the henhouse. And you know what, even with the taxpayers haveing to bail out the corruption of Waal Street, they get to receive their millions in balloon payments and $100,000+ retreats to the nicest spas around. What suckers you people are. Glad those nose rings are in place for Bush/Cheney/McSame to pull you around. No get to work and start paying for this debt.
Posted by: bill1037 | October 18, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
for all who cite carl rove handbook–and rovian tactics–give me a break–i suppose–the comunist manifesto is more to your liking–people like you dont realize is marx lived in an era of total domination of workers in the beginning of the industrial age–it was written for another time–but you modern day socialists are out of touch and its not your fault because ever since the sixties the communists have been infitrating the education system with people like ayers-who wants chavez education system incorporated with our sytem –my point is its not your fault that you feel americans needd to be coddled like barrack obama has been coddled by communists and marxists his whole life—you poor pathetic sheep and your cowering to peer pressure that you actually think being liberal is the cool thing–look at me i am a liberal and i have tingles in my whole body thinking how cool it will be when the commies take over–then you will realize your folly as cubans who followed fidel castro–and all of you can compare your identical ricecookers
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Oh yeah, listen to idiots like cisc! hes ahoot! The commies are coming!! The commies are coming!! You know what? Get your @ss out of this country if your afraid of commies under your bed. You people are really scary. Next thing you know your gonna build bomb shelters like in the 50s. Ya know the commies were coming then too. Thats really turned out to be true.
Posted by: SemperFi | October 18, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
I think that the media has already done a study on this and determined that Obama has more negative ads than McCain. Of course nothing anyone reports negatively about Obama will be heard by his supporters. It’s call brainwashing and they are all victims.
Posted by: voter | October 18, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Republicans dirty sick minds could use a little washing. Wouldnt take much detergent, maybe a drop, not much product to wash.
Posted by: Fairfax | October 18, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
McCain… the leader of the stupid. These right-wing people are by & large too proud to even shut the hell up long enough to learn anything. It isn’t enough that the USA has been, under the almost 7 year stint super majority leadership by the GOP, been dragged into the dirt with regard to almost every major factor, economic, diplomatic, national unity, ecological… you name it, they have failed miserably.
Posted by: GOP = 2 proud to open eyes | October 18, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
McSame the cameleon and Palin the parrot; what a pair they make. They ARE Saturday Night Live.
Posted by: redrockraven | October 18, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
I also saw part of this interview with Congresswoman Michele Bachmann of Minnesota on “Hardball with Chris Mathews”
This to me is an extremely radical point of view, because she basically said that if you are a liberal or liberal minded then you are “Anti-American”
This is extremely offensive to me.
Its sounds like Adolph Hitler and what he said about the Jews, or Stalin when people did not follow his world view.
Or the Chinese in Tiananmen Square.
The things that are being said from the Republican side of the house, just to win an election is really starting to scare me, as these seem to be extraordinarily extreme views on the way we should think.
I am for Obama, but I now have family sending me horrible videos of people getting chopped up with machetes in Africa and they are saying Obama was involved in this and supported this..
what garbage !!
My nephew who is 12 years old sent that to me..
America, where or where is the America
I loved and served for in the military ??
Shame on you John McCain for betraying
my American trust with this nasty nasty
stuff.
Posted by: richard | October 18, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
How does one change an angry old man? Could it be that McCain himself suffers from PTSD as a result of his POW experience? As for Sarah Palin, the lights are on but no one is home. It used to be that only Palin was frightening but McCain is now also frightening to contemplate occupying the White House.
Posted by: Lawrence | October 18, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
If there was any substance to the relationship between Obama and Ayers, the Homeland Security would have tagged Obama a long time ago. McCain knows this and is preying on the ignorance of the American public. So if you are ignorant, gullible, uninformed, prejudiced or paranoid… McCain wants your vote.
Posted by: DGC | October 18, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
semperfi–the fact is that ayers is a self professed communist. the are underground there has been a concerted effort to undermine capitalism. it starts with education and history revision and tactics like political correctness–and taking over the media and talking points handed to journalists–all talking heads that repeat the same indoctrination–i not afraid of them they are more like political cockroaches
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Obama and the mainstream media uses Nazi SS-like tactics against a plain old American citizen that simply asks about Obama’s tax plan. Is this where “THE ONE” is going to take this country should he be elected..isn’t that communism? SCARY …very SCARY…
and they don’t like the fact that Fox, the only network that presents the other side even exists..isn’t Putin doing that over there in Russia?
Posted by: Wendy | October 18, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Obama and the mainstream media uses Nazi SS-like tactics against a plain old American citizen that simply asks about Obama’s tax plan. Is this where “THE ONE” is going to take this country should he be elected..isn’t that communism? SCARY …very SCARY…
and they don’t like the fact that Fox, the only network that presents the other side even exists..isn’t Putin doing that over there in Russia?
Posted by: Wendy | October 18, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
i am so sick of the mcsame and painlin tring to make Obama look like a terriost which he is not , he is not from islam, get over ourselves mcsame and painlin because what you are doing is so going to back fire in your face !!!!! haaaaaa haaaaaaa
Posted by: Theresa angel | October 18, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
It’s too late for McCain to go positive.
Americans are paying far more attention this year. We know McCain hired the same people that ran negative ads against McCain in 2000.
There is video all over the place of McCain insulting these same people he hired this summer.
Americans do not want a president who allows their running mate to instill the hate we have seen.
Posted by: Dan | October 18, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Obama is a socialist..period. He also has no record to look at to base a vote on..just talk..and we all know talk is cheap.
Posted by: Wendy | October 18, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
By the way, I find that Obama cannot take criticism..he showed that with the Clinton’s..but ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC does all the dirty work for him..yet they still cannot stand the fact that McCain has one little network that presents the other side.
Posted by: Wendy | October 18, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
These GOP are really something else. They are simpltons who can be, with just a few simple set-ups, be led to believe ANYTHING… like prophecies coming to life, or communist take-overs, or YOU NAME IT! They are a dangerous brood not so much because they will rise up in arms, but that they have the power of the vote… the same power that was welded AGAINST the USA two elections in a row when they elected what has got to be the DUMBEST and DEADLIEST leader in our nations history.
Posted by: GOP = dumb as dirt | October 18, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
“McCain aides concede that the Republican candidate can’t take the White House without winning Virginia.” +++++ If that’s true, the party’s probably over. I’ll be surprised if Obama wins by less than 10%. Virginia has been tossing GOP officials in statewide elections throughout this decade (governor, senator, etc.). They went for Obama in the Dem. primary by a larger amount than solid Blue Maryland did on the same day.
Posted by: Mickey | October 18, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
That’s the thing about McCain — he keeps changing his tone because he takes his cues from his handlers. He’s erratic, and he’s been floundering all through this campaign.
Obama on the other hand is always consistent, because he’s himself. He’s cool, thoughtful, serious. His demeanor is authentic.
Posted by: AMD | October 18, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
So… you think Socialism is a BAD thing eh? You don’t like the Fire Department? You don’t like Public Schools? You don’t like Social Security? … these are ALL very socialist features of the USA… most of you people who blindly associate Socialism with Communism are just plain ignorant of facts.
Posted by: RW | October 18, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
believe Florida will go to McCain. I”m going to vote for Ombama even though I”m a white Republican woman.
The Republican “buddy boy whisper campaign” is in full force everywhere. You feel “marked” if you aren”t voting for McCain.
The GOP mail in vote card I received which was endorsed by Govenor Crist basically told you that Evil and Terrorist will kill you if you don”t vote Republican this year. WHY ISN”T THIS CONSIDERED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN THIS COUNTRY?
You would not believe the accusations and lies they are spreading over the Panhandle. Its so much racial hate that its just plan scary.
I am very disappointed that my government supporting something like this and allowing it to happen.
In such hard times we need to be lifted up and given hope to work together to make the world a better place for all. The elderly, poor, and middle class really need Obamas economic and healthcareplans right now. We definitely need the Obama/Biden foreign policy issues and we need TO END THE WAR IN IRAQ. The Repubicans are using lies and fears to justify the war again!
I hate to admit it, but I believe these horrible, criminal lies and accusations about Obama are working and have shifted people here away from the facts of McCain/Palin and the economy.
Posted by: virginia blow | October 18, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
semperfi–you are an socialist from hell you must work for the obama campaign and iranian caviar dreams–what does semperfi mean to you anyway–but to the point–its much easier to take out the american way by working under the radar because americans are the best warriors. so you work on delusion of the youth. ill give the socialist/libs/commies that they are very patient–this whole obama masquerade has been in the planning stages for at least 40 years–his white grandparents were communists–his whole campaign is based on saul alinsky and the handbook for radicles—to achieve the goals of the socialists you must fool and despair the middleclass before you can gain control of their government. socialists hate and despise the middleclass because it gets in the way of their two class system–that being the masses and the ruling party that knows what is better for them
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
I have lost total respect for John McCain. This is the worst SMEAR campaign that I have witnessed so far. Shame on him.
joe
Posted by: Joe | October 18, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
I haven’t seen any Sen. Obama attack adds. I’ve seen adds that question Sen. McCain’s policies. An attack add is when you imply that someone a terrorist or traitor. An add that contrast your ideas with your opponents ideas is not an attack add. Businesses contrast their products with their rivals products all of the time. A politician’s ideas are their product so to speak. Sen. McCain has been a politician for 26 years. Campaigning should be second nature for him by now. If Sen. McCain can’t even run a campaign after 26 years what makes you think he can run a country???
Posted by: mrtra | October 18, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Voted for Change in 2006? What have the democrats done? Renamed post offices..how about blocking regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which by the way was proposed by the Bush administration in 2005 and McCain. They saw this coming..but Dems thought EVERYONE should own a house, and Fannie and Freddie lobbyists kept filling their campaign coffers..so Barney Rubble Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters, Meeks pushed back any such regulation..so lenders had NINJA loans pushed down their throats..such is the housing and credit bubble..now these idiots think we should give homes away to people..wake up..Obama actually represented someone suing CitiCorp because they refused him a loan..like I said socialism here we come.
Posted by: Wendy | October 18, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
I think that this is an important sign here regarding the history of voting in Virginia as to how this election will end up. Who would have guessed that the state of
virginia would ever be an example of the rejection that is spreading across this country towards this deceitful
republican party.
I’m sick of these criminals, including McCain and Palin trying to play me for some for some idiot. They are both executing perfectly characters without principle, respect or honesty. No, I won’t honor you in any way John McCain; we now have some information that you perhaps even lied about being tortured from a guard at the Hanoi Hilton.
Yes, MY FRIEND, he said they never tortured you, and you have no proof that they ever did, do you.
You’re hiding much from us McCain.
Posted by: Jimi | October 18, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
virginia blow–get a grip–we conservatives know the enemy within is socialism and you obviouly are the enemy posing as a concerned little socialist lamb–but your talking points especially the racecard is absurd because this election has only been about race to blacks but to conservatives its about idealogy–take your racebaiting and blow
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
I find it AMUSING that people call it a smear campaign when John Mcccain exposes truth about Obamas character, lack of judgement, questionalble actions, and shady associates. I WANT TO KNOW THESE THINGS. The obama media wont disclose them, and obama has no record to stand on. Thanks John, and Sarah
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
I see the McCain camp is going to continue their “good cop – bad cop” routine. They are going to pretend that they are going positive but meanwhile ramping up their “robo-call” negative campaign by phone. He says he doesn’t care about some “washed up terrorist” – yet his phone messages are going to say otherwise. I’m embarassed for him.
Obama/Biden 2008!
Posted by: carolina | October 18, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
You unthinking naive fools..rich dems like Katie Couric, Charlie Gibson, Brian Williams, Chris Matthews, Opah Winfrey, Rosie O’donnell, Barbara Walters, Whoopi Goldberg etc…they all hire top accountants to make sure they pay the lowest taxes possible..and they know in the end their taxes won’t go up…ours will..the poor slugs who make less than 250K/yr..why because Obama will have to,,all Americans must sacrific…except these rich cronies..
Posted by: Wendy | October 18, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
McCain’s campaign gives us our only real “look see” at what a McCain/Palin administration would be like. It looks like a recipe for disaster. McCain seems wishy washy and “can’t interview me” Palin is a downright scary presidential prospect. What was McCain thinking with THAT campaign decision? It sure wasn’t about governing or what’s best for America.
Posted by: LookSee | October 18, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
You unthinking naive fools..rich dems like Katie Couric, Charlie Gibson, Brian Williams, Chris Matthews, Opah Winfrey, Rosie O’donnell, Barbara Walters, Whoopi Goldberg etc…they all hire top accountants to make sure they pay the lowest taxes possible..and they know in the end their taxes won’t go up…ours will..the poor slugs who make less than 250K/yr..why because Obama will have to,,all Americans must sacrific…except these rich cronies..
Posted by: Wendy | October 18, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
cisc
They play the race card, yet fail to acknowledge that it is their candidate Obama who chose to remain in a racially divisive church for 20 years with his wife.
They have no room to whine about race.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
If you want to know what McCain represents, JUST READ THE PAPER!!! This land of ours is in the tank folks! You cannot… CANNOT be so DENSE as to not understand that the GOP have had almost 7 straight years of a RARE SUPER-MAJORITY RULE (stranglehold) of our government. they have had 7 years to show us all just how great their philosophy of government is… and what do we have now? Please…
Posted by: GOP = Dismal track record | October 18, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
jimi and carolina–your names change but your anagrams are showing –you obviosly are paid by abc or directly work for the obama campaign–your hate of conservatives and capitalism is overwrought
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
ABC why have not yet publish the news that Hawaii killed their Universal Health plan for children after 7 months ?? It was killed because those who coulsd afford health care dropped out of theirs and went for the government free one, ha ! and this is what the liberals want ? They will never deliver, promises , promises and more doo doo
Posted by: Frank | October 18, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Did you see how the elites Obama/Biden slammed Joe the plumber. It is laughable
Joe the plumber, Bob the builder, Jill the nurse will end up paying more taxes for their success whereas Obama the politician, Bill Ayers the terrorist “professor”, Rev Wright the sick preacher, Farrakhan the racist, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ( where is he these days) , Pelosi/Reid the socialist income distributors will have a FREE reign destroying the country
A McCain Democrat from Massachusetts…
Posted by: vs | October 18, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
cisc: so i see you are delusional as your are paranoid. I assure you I am a real person. I am a member of Blue Star Families for Obama and am very proud to be a military spouse. If it makes you feel better to think I am not real – go ahead. You may be surprised come Nov.4 though. There are thousands of us who have mobilized and are working for change. Obama/Biden 2008!
Posted by: carolina | October 18, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
I agree with whoever said that Joe the Plumber has had a positive effect on the McCain campaign. But I hope that people will figure out what a distortion it is. Republicans look out for the wealthy — they always have, and that’s not going to change. The idea that they care about “joe the plumber” for anything but political purposes is extremely naive.
The real Joe Plumbers of this world should realize that Obama is the one who will look out for their interests.
Posted by: JKL | October 18, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Shhh, you’ll blow my cover.
I work for no one cisc. and I hold no hatred;
I’m only seeking the truth up against the hatred
and lies of a political party gone wild. There’s some people in Washington that will be paying dearly for their crimes after Obama is sitting in the oval office.
Posted by: jimi | October 18, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Wrong – Repubs dont look out for the wealthy. The wealthy look out for the wealthy. Just ask Pelosi Shumer, Dodd, and Frank
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Congresswoman Michele Bachmann of Minnesota comments yesterday were scary. It reminds me of the McCarthy / Hollywood witch hunt of tracking down communists. Is this what we are coming to? Fear, anger, guilt by assosiation?
I guess the right forgets about G. Gordon Liddy who calls McCain a close friend and held a funraiser at his house for him (which McCain attended) in 1998. He also has contributed $5,000 to the McCain Campaign’s. He has been convicted of burglary, illegal wiretapping and conspiracy. He once made plans to kill journalist Jack Anderson and made the quote in 1994 “Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they’re going to be wearing bulletproof vests. … Kill the sons of bitches.” Not once has he repented.
Does this mean that John McCain belives his view points and would take them to the white house if elected? Common sense tells me not.
What I’m now worried about is the furor that the right is stirring up with all their accusations. If not careful it could very well divide the country. What we need now is to get back on the right track.
Posted by: lardex | October 18, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
gop=dimaltrackrecord–your distraction technique wont cut it hear–you know the democrates have controlled congress and the senate since 2006–the economy was blasing along till the democrates can to power–this whole economic crisis was caused to coincide with your insatiable desire to turn america according to marx by causing the finacial and banking to be under government control. vote or die socialist.
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
All Obama is …a creation of the democratic power brokers who had had it with the Clinton’s pushing their weight around the democratic party..so they pluck this guy out of the Illinois senate where he’s voted present(cowardly)more times than not..who granted, is a cool and articulate speaker and put him up for President….this joker owes the PARTY not the people..bigtime..and he will be just their puppet in the White House.
Posted by: Wendy | October 18, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
I think one thing McCain has proven thus far is that he’s not capable of running an honest or above board campaign. He is only good at playing dirty, distorting the truth, running half-truths in the ground, using fear tactics, etc, etc, etc in his campaign. I think this is a direct reflection of his character and how he would run this country. He is ruthless, has absolutely no EQ (emotional quotient), not very much intelligence, and this is NOT what our country needs right now. And I won’t even get on the subject of Mrs. Palin.. she is just outright scary, and she has done nothing but fuel the HATE and LIES express on his campaign. When McCain has tried to be nice in this campaign it’s very strained, and it only lasts a few minutes. Then he turns right back around and starts the Hate and Lies again. So this only tells me that this is his normal character to use fear and hate, and that reminds me of Hitler, and we all know we DONT need another Hitler in our history. We need someone with strong character and fair resolve, knows how to handle a situation with the truth and firmness, even-spirited, intelligent, etc.. wow we might just get our man. I know, I know, he happens to be part African-American and I know some people just can’t get over the fear that we might finally have an African American in office. But you know people it’s time to get over that and realize the African Americans have contributed all these great things to our country, so why are we saying that an African American can’t be President? Especially when he is such a great man. It’s time for you to listen to God and understand that ALL God’s people that he put on this Earth ARE created equal. So it is a sin to be racist. So please get over your fear that McCain has tried to feed in your head and take a leap of faith. We need to do it for our country!
Posted by: lkinopfl | October 18, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Obama : It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.
Any questions?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
I think, regardless of our politics, Democrat or Republican, we can all come together and SCREAM over this recent Guardian article. The Guardian announced the bailed out banks are to give 70 BILLION dollars in bonuses. That is 10% of the bailout money given by the US taxpayers. On top of that, the amount being paid out to the top executives is MORE than the companies entire stock market value. If you took the total sum of money given to the executives, the executives could buy the bank themselves.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/oct/17/executivesalaries-banking
Posted by: good morning | October 18, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Is Gordon Liddy an unrepentant terrorist? No, he is a military veteran, and ex FBI agent, and NOT an ANTI_AMERICAN like obamas pals. Liddys thing wasnt against the USA, it was against corrupt elements of the opposing party, and those who were anti-american.
And, what did Todd Palin blow up?
The AIP is nothing but a group of people who want less government intervention in their lives. (You know,,, the way it was supposed to be when the bill of rights was introduced and finalized in 1791) ?
They dont like Big Brother dictating where their kids should go to school, or that they should be over- taxed to pay for social programs, and welfare for the those to stupid or too lazy to earn their money. Know anybody that fits that description?
States were supposed to be able to make their own laws, and government was supposed to work for the states,and the country not the other way around.
Obama ,and Ayers want to go in the exact opposite direction. They want government run society where hard working people pay the way of the government, who pocket some of the money, and create bureaucracy after bureacracy to cater to the lazy, and useless.
PS “G. Gordon Liddy has acted in several films, including The Highwayman, Street Asylum, Camp Cucamonga, Adventures in Spying and Rules of Engagement[11]. He also appeared in the television shows 18 Wheels of Justice and MacGyver, had a recurring role on Miami Vice, and guest starred in Al Franken’s TV show LateLine. Liddy appeared on a celebrity edition of the NBC TV show Fear Factor on September 12, 2006 (filmed in November, 2005). At 75 years of age, Liddy was the oldest contestant ever to appear on the show. Liddy beat the competition in the first two stunts, winning two motorcycles custom built by Metropolitan Chopper. In the final driving stunt, Liddy crashed and was unable to finish.”
Sounds like a man who is in demand, not a man shunned by mainstream america.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Chris Matthews did the public a HUGE disservice by not flipping the tables on this Republican revolting c@ntbag, Michelle Bachmann.
He let this unhinged, deranged lunatic spout off about Obama’s association for 15 f$ckign minutes, while he painted her into a corner of lunacy far too subtly for the average idiot American to pick up on.
Instead of asking Bachmann if Palin’s successionist links or McCain’s Keating or G Gordon Liddy associations we’re also unamerican, he just let her speak.
I’m all for freedom of speech but you can’t yell fire in a theater, so why can you just spout utter hateful nonsense in a national forum setting. And why the hell didn’t Matthews flip the tables.
Now, she’s being censured…
“Update: A campaign to censure Rep. Michelle Bachmann over her remarks has been launched” http://www.huffingtonpost.com
…but is that enough? How about a different campaign, how about a campaign to have her strapped down and g*ng-b*nged by a gaggle of silverback apes.
I used to not believe in Evil, siding that the very best of us do some very bad things – the more I see from Conservative Evangelicals and Republicans, the more I believe Evil does exist – it just wears the shroud of the cross, the shroud of patriotism, the shroud of “small town family values”.
Can we change it this election, or will it take revolution! If it’s the latter, I call dibs on the first to put Michelle Bachmann out of her misery!
Posted by: Derek | October 18, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Chris Matthews did the public a HUGE disservice by not flipping the tables on this Republican revolting c@ntbag, Michelle Bachmann.
He let this unhinged, deranged lunatic spout off about Obama’s association for 15 f$ckign minutes, while he painted her into a corner of lunacy far too subtly for the average idiot American to pick up on.
Instead of asking Bachmann if Palin’s successionist links or McCain’s Keating or G Gordon Liddy associations we’re also unamerican, he just let her speak.
I’m all for freedom of speech but you can’t yell fire in a theater, so why can you just spout utter hateful nonsense in a national forum setting. And why the hell didn’t Matthews flip the tables.
Now, she’s being censured…
“Update: A campaign to censure Rep. Michelle Bachmann over her remarks has been launched” http://www.huffingtonpost.com
…but is that enough? How about a different campaign, how about a campaign to have her strapped down and g*ng-b*nged by a gaggle of silverback apes.
I used to not believe in Evil, siding that the very best of us do some very bad things – the more I see from Conservative Evangelicals and Republicans, the more I believe Evil does exist – it just wears the shroud of the cross, the shroud of patriotism, the shroud of “small town family values”.
Can we change it this election, or will it take revolution! If it’s the latter, I call dibs on the first to put Michelle Bachmann out of her misery!
Posted by: Derek | October 18, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
carolina–so does that make you a blustar organizer–you are a socialist period–all this change you talk of is directly out of your and obama handlers bible –saul alinsky and his handbook for radicle organizers–how many times does alinsky use the word change–with just so happens to be your favorite word and your glorious pawn barack obama
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
McBush is the guy
that said Medicare is too expensive
and it unfair to support Social Security
and do not pass a vet. GI bill
and do not give woman equal pay
and do not give health care for children.
and want to continue the war
and caused the stock market failure
and he”s election team is nothing but Bush people and lobbyist!
McCain is not good for the country!
vote for Obama-Biden and all democrats!
Posted by: ghm | October 18, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
You know..I am in CT and every Presidential election in the past I have seen lots and lots of bumper stickers on I-95..this year maybe in total 25…I don’t think that people who say they are going to vote for Obama really are going to…it’s just really weird out there.
Posted by: Wendy | October 18, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
In the words of the man, the myth, the legend…
Democratic debate January 2008
BARACK OBAMA: “I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it. And my desk in my office doesn’t look good. I’ve got to have somebody around me who is keeping track of that stuff,” said Obama.
What a genius.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Keep fighting McCain. They’re not negative ads.
Posted by: John_from_California | October 18, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
badger—1107–thanks for shining the light on the liberal cockroaches who feed on the ignorant with there lies –they scatter from the truth and are found out
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
KISS THE AMERICAN DREAM GOOD-BYE!!!
Posted by: OBAMA?BIDEN | October 18, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
From the Kansas City Star:
“Despite his age and previous health problems, McCain chose a vice presidential candidate who is so clearly unqualified for high office that the thought of her stepping into the presidency is frightening.
That irresponsible decision casts serious doubt on McCain’s judgment at this point in his political career. And over the past eight years, Americans have come to know, all too well, the high price of carelessness and ineptitude in the White House.”
The world is watching and hoping Americans will choose a president who will reach out to allies. Obama will restore America’s reputation as a land of civil liberties, educational opportunities and good faith.
The Obama-Biden ticket offers the best hope of recovering from today’s economic difficulties, reclaiming leadership in the world and moving forward to a more promising future.”
Obama/Biden ’08!
Posted by: sawrad | October 18, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Acorn Alinski Ayers Auchi, Antoine, and I’m not even out of the A’s yet.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Oh how I love the sweet voice of reason.
posted by ms1236: It really does not make a difference who you vote for in this election. Both candidates are making promises that they and the government cannot keep. Obama is going to cut all our taxes (except for the rich of course who already pay more than the rest of us), give us all health care, pay for higher education for all, solve the enrgy crisis, etc, etc. and then he blames Bush for a huge deficit. Where will all this money come from?? McCain is not sure from one day to the next what he wants to do. He promises to cut spending and then says the government should buy up mortgages. Somebody name one program the government has instituted that has actually worked well. Both parties are to blame. This country became great because government stayed out of the way while honest hard working people carried this nation forward. Answers will come from individuals and busineses that are creative not from the government. It would be laughalbe if it were not so sad that the economic crisis was created by the government (both parties) and now the government says we must support it while it fixes it. That is like inviting the arsonist back to put out the fire he started. Look at New Orleans – the only progress made in that city after Katrina has come from volunteers and private business, not from the government. All of you who keep posting how the government will fix everything are part of the problem – quit expecting the government to help you and get out and help yourselves.
Posted by: Johnson | October 18, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
McCain’s “OTHER” Base
There’s some folks in the trailer up the road who have been raising “state foster-kids” for at least 2 generations…they’ve gotten so good at “gaming” the state human services system to get stuff most poor working folks can’t afford, that they brag about it.
They owe just about everyone in the neighborhood some unpaid loans or labor (mostly so they can buy cigarettes), but are quick to call the cops when you’re having a party once in a blue moon, or someone’s taking a shot at the coyotes stealing chickens. Nobody likes them.
Now I see a big campaign sign on their unmowed lawn for -you guessed it! -the McCain/Palin Republicans! I think I’ll get a picture of that, with the trailor in the background and preferably them behind the sign, and caption it “McCain’s Other Base”.
Posted by: allen_osuno3 | October 18, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
How obvious are all of these left wing news outfits coming out and endorsing obama? This is disgusting, who really gives a damn about their biased endorsement?
Sarah Palin is far better qualified than the jr senator /community organizer fron so side chicago.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Hey George,
When are you stupid journalists, going to demand that Obama go positive on Joe the plumber. When are you morons going to see that attacking the average joe is Elitist and/or Racist.
My father was a plumber, he made much more than 250,000 in the 70′s. I grew up in a million dollar home, I went to private schools and colleges. He set me up in business. We had airplanes. Plumbers can make it big.
BTW: my best friend is an electrician, he has 2 airplanes, and more big houses.
Posted by: heavenislikethis | October 18, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Whatever you do……don’t forget to Vote early and Vote often! Barack is counting on it!!!
ACORN
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | October 18, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
dereck–the thing is matthews is used to hearing rants –ever hear of oberman –if you didnt maybe youll be in a padded cell next to him–both of you are losing it
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
http://savagepolitics.com/?p=2229
Posted by: diablo | October 18, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
You hillbillies toss around the wErd “socialism” as if you even understood it at all. If you want to see capitalism at its best, just go and ask anyone who lived through Pinochet in Chili… by the way, The GOP nationalization (e.g., privatization of Social Security proposal) plan was extracted DIRECTLY from Gen Pinochet’s handbook. So socialism… please remember that the Fire Department, Public Schools, and your social security system are all SOCIALIST organizations… and DONT you forget it!
Posted by: GOP = Blind leading the Blind | October 18, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Wendy, I try not to be rude on these boards, but honestly your ideas sound like something you just plucked out of your a**.
The idea that Obama is any kind of puppet for anyone else is silly. He’s so clearly a self-made man, having risen from very humble beginnings, and made it to where he is now through a lot of hard work.
And he’s his own man. He makes up his own mind on issues. He’s a serious and thoughtful guy, not some floundering old fool like McCain who just listens to his advisors.
Wake up.
Posted by: JKL | October 18, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
I believe obama has alot of unfinished business as a community organizer in south side Chicago. After all, if he couldnt clean up a small district, surely he isnt qualified to clean up this country.
Hit the road obama,,, or is it soetero?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Baa Baa Baa Baa Baa
Barack Obamaaaa,
Lead your sheap to the wolfs !!!!!
Socialism at it’s best
Posted by: Mark | October 18, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Imagine a neighbor = some days he likes me. Some days he hates me.
Weird guy there. Kind of erratic behavior.
Posted by: newz4i | October 18, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Obama From Audacity of Hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Any questions?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
A year ago I had a favorable opinion of John McCain. I was happy the Clintons had lost and thought McCain would be a safe choice. But the man who has emerged over the last 2 to 3 months has proven me wrong. McCain has gone from expectable, to disgraceful. For me it no longer matters what McCain does, he could become a choirboy for the next 3 weeks, it wouldn’t change my mind. He has shown his true face and I will not forget who he is. It’s time to hold McCain accountable for what he has said and done in his campaign.
Posted by: James | October 18, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Speaking of other base – Obama has the ex cons, the homeless, and the deceased voting for him.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
GOP=Blind leading the Blind:
Excellent post. It’s so true that people are throwing that word “socialism” around without understanding what it means. The level of ignorance in this country is amazing.
A lot of people also don’t seem to realize that WE ALREADY HAVE TAX BRACKETS, that that’s the American system and has been for decades. A lot of people think Obama somehow invented the idea that people at higher incomes pay a higher percentage. Wrong!! That’s the way it already is, and has been through decades of both Repub. and Dem administrations and congresses.
Posted by: JKL | October 18, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
positive.. I doubt it, McCain/Bush campaign only knows one way to run. Scare and fear tactics. I guess when you have no plans and no new directions to fix the economy. Going back to the old way of Scare and Fear tactics are their only choice. But this time, Americans won’t be fooled. Even president bush said it himself. “fool me one, shame on me, fool me twice..McShmm mm fool me twice, you can’t fool me”
Posted by: OldWayWorksOutGreatRIGHT? | October 18, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Mainstream media EVADE OBAMA’S SERIOUS PEOBLES(ties to TERRORIST and people who HATE AMERICA, ACORN, and much more)to PROTECT OBAMA. So somenoe has to LET the VOTERS know OBAMA’S PROBLEMS. Mainsteram media LABLE mentioning DAMAGING TRUTH about OBAMA as personal attack to SILENCE IT. But voters CANNOT CHOOSE a best possible candidate WITHOUT KNOWING candidate.
Obam is THE MOST PRO-ABORTION PRESIDENTIAL candidate. Obama’s stand on abortion is SO EXTREME that even Nancy Pelosi, Clinton, Boxer, Kennedy DO NOT SHARE with Obama’s postion. Obama, as a Illinois state senator, VOTED four times AGAINST providing medical care to NEW BORN-ALIVE BABIES, letting them DIE, while ALL DEMOCART SENOATORS including Nancy Pelosi VOTED FOR the identical federal bill, BORN ALIVE INFANT PROTECTION ACT.
Posted by: Geon | October 18, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Any questions?
Posted by: Badger | O
Yea, did you read the book or just cut and paste.
Posted by: Just Wondering | October 18, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Can you Imagins obama , a rubber stamp for Reid, and Pelosi??? NOW THAT IS SCARY.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
You GOP just BLINDLY JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON. You toss about accusations of socialism, etc… you are SO McCarthy. How many of you, who are not wealthy, have good medical care? Of course the right-wing look out only for the bush base, the HAVES. They care not for the HAVE NOTS. It is a shame that medical care is not free for all. It certainly is in the military… oh, by the way, the military is yet ANOTHER Socialist (and totalitarian) organization… so are prisons… their medical care is also free.
Posted by: Fire Dept = Socialist Org. | October 18, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
jkl–leave wendy alone–your post ist the most rediculous post. did you ever see what happens when his teleprompter goes down he is a fish out of water.–but actually you are trying to decieve wendy with youyr lies–she has made a good point–you know you can try to deny but that is the risk of your overbearing political correctness–getting back to obama he has been coddled and given a silverspoon his whole life–he has been groomed–is he is own man–or the ultralefts puppet–ill let the facts speak for themselves-not your ineuendo however you spell it
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Is this article legitimate? If so, McCain is a big time loser.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/1
Posted by: Todd | October 18, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
i think jaun mccain he is the best to lead the usa and he is the appropriate president
Posted by: ashraf | October 18, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Just Wondering
I would never read his book. I’m really not interested in reading the narcissitic account of a snotty drug using kid, turned community organizer as a stepping stone to radical left politics and senator where he then raped the tax payers of one billion in earmarks while attending a racist church for 20 years.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
McCain: “Obama is a socialist!” Well, we know which advisers won this battle. He’s going completely negative now. Not even trying to hide his hate for Obama. And he’s sending his surrogates out as well: Michelle Bachmann (Minnesota) announced last night on Hard Ball on MSNBC that United States Senators and Congressmen should be investigated to find out which ones were anti-American! IS MCCAIN THE NEW MCCARTHY? I think he is, and I think he will end up just like JOE MCCARTHY – disgraced and despised. What a sick sight the McCain campaign is becoming. Don’t talk about the issues, talk about patriotism. Is this what has come to the Republican Party in 2008? What’s next? A terrorist attack — or, more appropriately, a “false flag terrorist attack”? Shame on you, McCain.
Posted by: BubbaG | October 18, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
To those of you still frothing at the mouth about Bill Ayers:
Obama was on the same committee with this man 10 years ago. As he explained in the last debate, the committee was run by a Mr. Annenburg, a strong supporter and friend of Reagan. The other people on the committee were very distinguished people, heads of universities etc, including some prominent Republicans. Are you going to jump all over them??
Get over it. It’s a non-issue. The reason it isn’t sticking to Obama is because anyone with any brains can see he’s a serious, straight-up kind of man. No-one honestly believes he’s a terrorist or anything close to it.
Morons!!
Posted by: had_enough | October 18, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Todd quotes Rolling Stone,, a magazine that admits to being solely in the tank for obama to the point of contributing alot of money to him.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
We are in LaLa Land. Even the English know it. “You have to pinch yourself – a Marxisant* radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshipped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it’s considered impolite to say so.” – The Spectator – UK
Posted by: freemort | October 18, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
How would Mccain calling Obama a socialist be NEGATIVE? When is the TRUTH negative people? Can somebody who hasnt drinking the Koolaid answer this ?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
I voted early for Obama yesterday and it was the proudest moment of my life! We all must stand up to McFearmonger and his Drama Queen side kick. Vote Obama!! Vote early if you can!!!
Posted by: JimM | October 18, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
How is it LYING when someone questions Obamas judgemewnt in working wit hand socializing with domestic terrorists, racists , criminals and radicals. These r no lies – they are facts. Chec kthe Chicago newspapers….Obaams 5 hours with REZKO tyurned out to be a 20 year association with hundreds of thousands of dolalrs exchnaged and real estate at dirt cheap prices etc…That is no lie – it is fact. The LIE is the one Obama said on tv….” only spent 5 hours on Rezko. “” He knew Ayers had blown up buildings and killed police officers and told children to “kill their parents.” If he went to Harvard , believe me, he KNEW- they teach it there for crying out loud !!! He LIED when he said he never heard 20 years of racists sermons !! So when we report these things – they are not lies. Wake up you morons and see him for what he really is and it aint your messiah !!!
Posted by: jimbo | October 18, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
What is Baracks real legal name? Barry? Barack? Obama? Soetero?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
This is what a political party temper tantrum looks like: hate-spewed rhetoric. Have you seen the videos of the crowds waiting to get inside the McCain-Palin rallies? They don’t even try to hide their bigotry and racism, and certainly not their hate. What is wrong with these people? What are they so afraid of? I agree with Obama — this says much more about McCain/Palin and his supporters than it says about Obama. I just wish all of the McCain supporters would step back for a minute and realize how ugly and stupid they look when they say these outrageous things. How stupid are these people?
Posted by: WendyH | October 18, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
McCain’s association with Liddy isn’t news. The Chicago Tribune covered it back in May, when the Clinton campaign was roadtesting the McCain campaign’s tactics. Let’s compare:
* Bill Ayers participated in bombing a statue, the New York Police headquarters, the U.S. Capitol, and the Pentagon. G. Gordon Liddy participated in a White house plot to subvert the Constitution.
* Ayers has never been convicted or served prison time. Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary, and illegal wire-tapping, was senteced to 20 years, and served 5.5 until President Carter commuted his sentence.
* Ayers is now a professor of education. Liddy is a conservative talk radio host.
* Ayers has said “we didn’t do enough” to stop the Vietnam War, a statement interpreted by some to mean he thinks he should have set off more bombs in the early 1970s. In 1994, after the feds stormed the branch Davidian compound in Waco, Liddy said on his radio program, [sorry, rough language coming] “Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they’re going to be wearing bulletproof vests. … Kill the sons of bitches.” (And as for Liddy on Hitler….)
* Ayers and his wife hosted a campaign event at his house for Obama in 1995. Liddy hosted a campaign event for McCain in 1998.
* Ayers donated $200 to Obama in 2001. Liddy has given at least $5,000 to McCain over the years, including $1,000 this year.
* Senator Obama has called Ayers’ terrorist acts “despicable” and condemned them. Senator McCain appeared on Liddy’s radio show last November and said, “I’m proud of you, I’m proud of your family…. It’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.”
I’m not going to bother with quantifying the sins of Ayers and Liddy. And please note, I offer no defense of Ayers here. Go ahead, assume the worst of both men, and you can say, as does Chapman, that each man “back in the 1970s, extolled violence and committed crimes in the name of a radical ideology — and… has never shown remorse or admitted error.”
It’s simple: if you think Ayers is a voting issue, then you must think Liddy is a voting issue. Have fun voting for Barr or Nader.
Posted by: Sick of Double Standards | October 18, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
jkl–the biggest fool is he who presumes another a fool–but i assume it is selfrewarding–
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
I don’t know where you ABC get your information. It just baffles me. Does ABC remember George McGovern? Can ABC say Dewey?
Get real. Bottom line is the MSM are starting to irritate a lot of folks BIG TIME. Let’s tell the truth here for once. Have any one of you seen an Obama bumper sticker on any car in our fly over states? I’m not talking west or east coast but the heartland. States like Nebraska where the taxpayer says hell no to Bill Ayries. This is America folks so don’t be bringing that right and left coast ether to the heartland ya hear?
Posted by: Seymour | October 18, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Obama voted 4 times to deny medical attention to born alive babies.
How dare those babies be born alive?
What were those babies thinking?
Didnt they know they were supposed to be dead?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
cisc, nice try but what a load of nonsense. There are no “teleprompters” for the candidates in the debates, and it is widely acknowledged (I know it’s a big word, but look it up) that Obama has won the debates with McCain.
The idea that he’s had a silverspoon all his life? Yeah, just dream up stuff if you like. He was raised by his grandparents and by his single mother, a white woman with very little money, raising a biracial child.
But if you and Wendy (you’re probably the same person) have no regard for facts, then just keep spouting the same old rubbish that you’ve been spouting.
Posted by: had_enough | October 18, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Well badger, that’s the problem with you fools. You cut and paste inaccurate information without first researching it. Believing everything you hear and read on the internet is ignorant.
Posted by: Just Wondering | October 18, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Before you GOP get your shorts in a bunch over these accusations tossed about by the political party that FULLY BACKED BUSH and gave you this dismal economy and failing nation that seems to challenge your sense of national pride to the point of causing you to act irrational, you should consider that JUST MAYBE you have been led astray now for the past 8 years. Many here in your nation feel you have… just perhaps you should swallow a little of that boiling pride of yours and LISTEN… you just might LEARN something about the deception you have fallen prey to.
Posted by: GOP = NEED EDUCATION | October 18, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
McCain finally called Obama’s plan by it’s true name: Socialism. Spread the Wealth is just that, a socialist plan to take from one to give to another.
Posted by: MOM | October 18, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Cisc, do you even know what innuendo means? Your post doesn’t make sense. And I stand by my remarks to Wendy.
Posted by: JKL | October 18, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Libs are just too blind or too stupid to see the truth. The DEMOCRATIC controlled congress is responsible for a great deal of our economic mess. THEY make fiscal decisions, not Bush.
Posted by: mom | October 18, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Why are you guys so scared of socialism? The USA already embraces MANY socialistic organizations and HAS since the beginning!
Are you telling us that the Fire Department, Public Schools and even Social Security is not socialistic? if so.. please explain how they are not…
Posted by: Fire Department is a Socialist Organization | October 18, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Obama From Dreams of My Father: It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.
Obama then went on to join and remain ina racially divisive church for 20 years, where Louis Farrakhan, a man who says whites ar decendants of the devil was honored with a lifetime achievement award.
Any questions?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
mom… please… the democratic “controlled congress” do NOT have a super majority… in other words, the GOP (with their nazi leaders still welding the power of VETO) still control everything. The only over-rides that have passed did so with the help of GOP.
Posted by: mom = NEEDS AN EDUCATION | October 18, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
McCain and the Republicans are grasping at anything, and it’s not going to do any good. We Obama supporters are going to go out and vote; we are not going to stay home. I almost feel sorry for McCain, and then he does something really stupid like call Obama a socialist (today, 10/18). Is he just senile? Is that what is wrong with the McCain campaign? Is it being run by someone with Alzheimer’s? Because McCain is acting as erratically as my grandfather with Alzheimer’s. Obama is not a socialist, Senator McCain, but I agree with the above comment that McCain is acting like Joe McCarthy. This is like a witch hunt. I can’t wait for this election to be over so that McCain/Palin can go back and crawl under the rock from which they came. Smart Republicans: where are you? Why are you allowing the Republican brand name to be usurped by bigots, racists, and ignorant people? I thought Republicans were supposed to be pro-business? How is it pro-business to have a bunch of wing-nuts running around hijacking your party? Americans are fed up with these wing-nuts running around trying to say that they are more religious than I am or more patriotic than I am. Give it up. With every day, McCain’s supporters show their true selves: racists, bigots, religious intolerants. You have to ask yourself, what would Jesus do? I don’t think he’d be acting like McCain or his supporters. These wing-nuts are on the wrong side of history and the wrong side of scripture. Come to think of it, McCain and his supporters do remind me a lot of Hitler and the anti-Jew mobs who ran all over Berlin in the 1930′s. They are just incredibly ignorant. They are sheep following Hitler. wake up, McCain supporters, before you lose your souls completely. (I think we need some garlic around here.)
Posted by: Sally in Dallas | October 18, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann are not doing the public any good when they spew hatred about McCain, Palin and Hillary 24/7. They are suppose to report the news -not input their own biases. At least Fox news gives a more balanced picture with Hannity -pro- McCain and Colmes- definately Pro-Obama !! But you hear both sides. Bill O’Reilly is not afraid to ask tough questions of Obama or McCain either. Jeff Zucker of NBC has put out the word to discredit Joe the Plumber- imagine a head of a network afraid of a plumber whose only crime is that he had the nerve to ask a tough question to Obama !!!! What is going on here ??? Well Zucker your 3 stooges — Andrea Mitchell,, Chrissy – tingling up his gay leg Matthews and Keith Olberman are doing a great job in alientating the public with their slanted, biased and uninformed views – thats why NBC pulled Olbermann and Matthews from prime time political coverage – the ratings went to the basement- people are sick of hearing only their opinions. All 3 represent gutter journalism at its worst !!!
Posted by: jimbo | October 18, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Socialism involves shared risk. We are all socialist now because of the Economic Rescue Plan. So Republicans can stop using that scare tatic, because President Bush ensured SOCIALISM, not Obama or even McCain. It amazes me that Republicans figure they can not win on truely paramount issues such as the economy…so they revert to BOOGIE MAN SCARE tatcis. It is funny to me.
Posted by: annazette | October 18, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Just curious… what race slaughtered the Native Americans? What race enslaved the black man? What race is behind those white cloaks of the KKK? by the way, I am white… but I am also man enough to own up to the mistakes this nation has made and I am willing to fight for Change!
Posted by: Facts is Facts | October 18, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
jkl–inuendo is all to do with obama–you have to read between the lines. some more inuendo obama stlye– ayers or some other handler wrote his books.
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
NEWS FLASH! You read it first right here!This is what WILL happen.
Senator McCain will become our next President and about half of the people in the country will feel like they have been screwed. But EVERYONE in the country will understand why they feel the way they do! OR: Senator Obama will become our next President. Then EVERYONE in the country will feel like they have been screwed but only the Conservatives and Republicans will understand why they feel that way.
TA DA! That’s it folks.
Posted by: AlchyDave25 | October 18, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Jimbo – What about Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh? What about their way leaning right-winged views that the majority of America disagrees with? You’d be surprised to see how many people agree with Olbermann’s “slanted” views anyways. It’s funny to me on how Republicans accuse the media of being heavily liberal. You ever think maybe they just agree with the better policies, or the better candidate?? ;)
Posted by: Obama/Biden 08 | October 18, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Thats right McCain, Tell the truth about the FRAUD OBAMA. It’s no secret that HAMAS FARC IRAN Hugo Chavez, CPUSA and the CASTRO’s are supporting obama.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
HAHAHAHA!! If anyones watches FOX news to get all of their political veiw points, I feel sorry for them. Hannity sits and SPEWS nothing but hate for Obama…then argues down anyone who disagrees with him on Obama or who does not bow down to his dreamgirl Palin. FOX news did two polls after the last two debates between Obama and McCain. Both polls showed 87% McCain / 12% Obama…both times!! You mean to tell me that the polls did not move or down after each debtate…I would have thought after McCain comes out and attempts to throw the kitchen sink at Obama he would have gotten at least 110% to Obamas -10%. LOL.
Posted by: annazette | October 18, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
If McCain wins: I’ll feel like we got screwed because of the ignorance votes. I acknowledge Republican voters who are voting based on policy differences, but not hatred votes GOP will be receiving.
If Obama wins: It’ll be my proudest day as an American, along with many others. I don’t think the majority of American will feel like they’ve been screwed when he does great things for this nation ;)
Posted by: Change is coming! | October 18, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Any questions?
Posted by: Badger |
No, just a statement. Again, you are showing your lack of intelligence and ignorance. And again that is an incorrect quote. If you are going to cut and paste at least get it right. Do some research.
Posted by: Just Wondering | October 18, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I am a wealthy independent voter (voted McCain 2000), earning a 7 figure annual income, who is voting against his (short term) economic interests, and voting Sen Obama this year. I have the luxury of being able to do this, I can afford it � easily – for the longer term gain of a stable economy.
I am baffled by middle and lower income people who are going to vote Sen McCain, against their economic interests, and if I remember right, to the days when I earned $50k a year, you all clearly cant afford to do this.
So the question is why would do this when there is ample evidence to show you that you are voting against your own well-being and future? Look at the results of “give rich people” like me a tax break and spend like crazy in the meantime:
1. shrinking value of the dollar
2. shrinking wages and increased unemployment
3. market instability � tearing a whole in pensions
4. rich get richer (thank you very much) and the poor get poorer
5. the largest socialization of private business in history (who’s the socialist?)
Fact is, you are being hoodwinked again, by the very people that brought you George W. Bush (economic and foreign policy disaster.) Don’t get me wrong, I do not fault Sen McCain, he is an honorable man, who has been coopted by the right and is being badly advised by W’s people (and he will continue this as President McCain.) By his own admission, he does not “understand the economy as well as (he) should.” W as an MBA, he has no excuse.
Mr McCain’s people are using two ploys to get you to vote against your best interests – 1. trying to paint Sen Obama as having terrorist links 2. trying to paint Sen Obama as a “socialist”
We have seen this ploy before in the elections f 2000 and 2004 and also in the argument for WMD and going to war in Iraq�they use fear to get folks who have no traveled much and do not have much education, to manipulate them into doing what they want�.
Lets show them this time, that it wont work��we cannot continue on this path�.so although I may be voting against my economic interests in the short term I am convinced that Sen Obama has the better long term plan to create wealth.
Posted by: indithinker | October 18, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Interesting post from yesterday.
Obama continues to refuse to provide the media with school records, passports, college theses, law school records, law firm clients, medical records, Illinois State Senate files, and other documents about his record.
Original birth certificate – not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license – not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license – not released
Soetoro adoption records – not released
Besuki School application – released
Punahou School records – not released
Selective Service Registration – released
Occidental College records – not released
Passport (Pakistan) – not released
Columbia College records – not released
Columbia thesis – not released
Harvard College records – not released
Harvard Law Review articles – none
Baptism certificate – none
Medical records – not released
Illinois State Senate records – none
Illinois State Senate schedule – not released (alleged to have been lost)
Law practice client list – not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles – none [23,29,56,186,239]
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
the real problem is more government actually more and more corrupt government–this is what i cant understand about socialist and liberals–why do you want more of a bad thing–if on the otherhand the government really were in it for the greater good and not their powerlust–i would be able to walk to the center–but all i see is more unbridled coruption if the left takes full control–the sky will fall
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Why does it matter who supports Obama in terms of Iran, Hamas, Hugo Chavez, etc…can they vote? You think maybe they’ll respect America more with a president like Obama and not hate us so much, and we wouldn’t have to be worried about them as much?? You need to look at both sides of the spectrum Badger ;)
Posted by: Obama Baby | October 18, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
If I was Obama, I would not release my personal information either. There are thousands of people who steal other people idenities everyday. Anyways, I know all I need to know about him…and that is why I voted for him. ;-)
Posted by: annazette | October 18, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Just wondering
Look we arent all as gullible as Obamas supporters. Obama stated his antipathy towards whites going back to his early teens FACT, he then joined and remained in a racially divisive church 20 years FACT. Are you telling me that he has after 30 years of racial animosity sudenly changed his views of whites? Maybe his “typical white grandmother” can answer that question better?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Badger – Please tell me why I’m gullible for being an Obama supporter. Your gullible for being a McCain supporter. Come on Badger, kindergarteners can’t vote! lol
Posted by: Obama Baby | October 18, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Badger
Obama is of mixed race, a lot of mixed race people have awkward feelings towards their heritage and their parents and grandparents. You do not know the things that formed those feelings in Obama. I do not think he dislikes white people and I think he is confident in who he is as a man. He had to find out for himself who he was. Rev Wright is a non issue because white people might be very surprised what they would hear if they entered a Black church on Sunday morning. Black people do not dislike White people, but, older Black people can remember how they were treated in the not to distant past in this country…say the 1960′s.
Posted by: Margie | October 18, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Anybody with the user name “Obama baby” is clearly gullible in their mindset.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
RE: Subject: Dear Red States
posted by Michael
Michael, the borders that make up the states don’t show you where all the liberals and conservatives live buddy.
Chicago may vote democrat but that doesn’t mean the rest of the state does.
Isn’t your candidate supposed to be the one who’s about bringing us all closer together? Doesn’t sound to me like you are on board with that.
Posted by: Johnson | October 18, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Ya know indithinker,
Folks that post on anonymous boards that beat their chests of fictioned wealth are highly suspect to me. All seasoned posters know this. Now, tell us what Jr. High School you go too? In Chicago?
Thanks in advance….
Posted by: Seymour | October 18, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Dear Badger,
I’m showing support to my candidate, that doesn’t mean I’m gullible. Are you bitter because your candidate is losing and going to lose? I’m sorry buddy. Look at it this way, we Democrats had to suffer under W for 8 years, and Obama is bound to be better than that ;)
Posted by: Obama Baby | October 18, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Margie
Dont give me that crap about obamas mixed race dilemma. He actually chose to alienate himself from his white half, which was the half that raised, and nurtured him, while taking on his fathers image who abandoned him, and his mother, for other women, and a chance to go to a fancy university.
Obama only decided months ago to leave his racist church , and only for political expediancy.
Obama is poison
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
indiethinker–i really dont believe your ilusioal post–i would have called it delusional if it were not a mere socialist propaganda piece..what you dont get is we dont want government in our lives ..picture this –living in a land where local government was as the constitution intended. all states had their own laws unbridled by an overbearing central government. it would be nice because communities of likeminds would develope and live by their directly responsve laws..therefore we would have 57 choices in a panorama of ideas from the extreme left to right determined locally
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
obama baby – Your early prediction of victory, exposes more of your shallow psyche.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Badger is your name Sean Hannity? I knew it! You crazy lil devil you. You tried bein sneaky!
Posted by: Badgers Suck | October 18, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Early prediction of victory is just that, it’s a prediction ;). Not a guarantee, just a good hunch. I’d be shallow voting for someone like McCain who is very similar to W. I’ve done my research, voting for the candidate that represents what I stand for and need, and my vote is going towards Obama in a state (Indiana) that is usually dire red, but is up in the air like many “red” states. Tell me, what’s Wisconsins polling show??
Posted by: Obama Baby | October 18, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Badger
Actually, Obama never “alienated” himself from his “white half” (as if there is such a thing), and his church is not particularly racist, but don’t let reality get in the way of your hatred.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 18, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
McCain thought this would be an easyt win for him. It has proven to be anything but that. Obama has run a tight ship, while the HMS McCain has floundered and hit icebergs. ;-). The final straw I thought was Palin, but, McCain dug deeper and found a PLUMBER to represent the “EVERY MAN” in America. I guess his campain really has hit the toilet. And now Palin is going on SNL, when she has not even appeared on “Face the Nation” or “Meet the Press”.
Posted by: Margie | October 18, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
obama baby – you OBVIOUSLY havent done any independant investigation other than letting the obama media spoonfeed you frosted obama flakes. If you actually investigated obama independantly, you’d be appalled.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
I hope SNL does a Fey-Palin contest on who the real VP candidate is…Mavericky! haha
Posted by: Obama Baby | October 18, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
this whole campaign is out of control-the bullying and bias by the dems w/ total mainstream backing has been an uphill battle for mccain, but he`s held his own despte the odds. IT`S BEYOND ME OF HOW OBAMA GOT THIS FAR-NO EXPERIENCE, AFFILIATIONS W/ RADICALS, TERRORISTS, AND THIEVERS! THIS IS A TOTAL NIGHTMARE! AMERICANS, WE`RE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING IF OBAMA IS ELECTED! ANTI-AMERICAN BELIEFS, MORE OF THIEVES LIKE PELOSI,DODD,REED,FRANK, COX AND MORE!!!!! THESE JACKASSES GOT US INTO THIS ECONOMIC MESS, AND WILL MAKE IT WORSE! I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION TOWARDS BUSH, BUT MCCAIN IS DIFFERENT AND WANTS TO HELP, NOT HURT AMERICA-IF EVERYONE COULD JUST SEE BEYOND BUSH, YOU WOULD GET IT AND IT`S ALOT SAFER WITH MCCAIN!AND REMEMBER-WINNERS NEVER CHEAT!!! HOW OBAMA HAS TURNED HIS TOTAL SCREW-UP WITH JOE THE PLUMBER AROUND IS APPALLING! IT`S BACKFIRING ON HIM, THE NY TIMES AND ALL OF THE REST OF THE BIASED MEDIA! WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND!
Posted by: jef505 | October 18, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
margie–you bring up a good point–why is it that black people act as though he is black and seem to disregard that he is white also–its like the glass being half full or half empty you see what you want to see. when i look at obama i dont see a black man or a white man –i see a man–but i do wonder if he is his own man
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
I am sorry, but, McCain KNEW Palin was not the most qualified person he could ask to run with him. What about Romney? This should be a disgrace to the Republicans that McCain chose this woman for strictly political reasons and NOT BECAUSE she is what is best for this country. Is that putting country first?
Posted by: annazette | October 18, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
jock
Sure jock, it’s your delusional fantasy, and your right to reveal it.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Appalled by what? You made no mention to what you’re talking about…just like McCain ;)
Posted by: Obama Baby | October 18, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
obama baby is code for a city-organized clone
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
CISC – good one. I’m crushed. haha
Posted by: Obama Baby | October 18, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
jef505, Idiots think that by typing in all caps they will be more knowledgable. People like myself see the all caps and skip over your rants. You must be in junior high school. Grow up, or ask mommy to help you with the big bad computer keyboard.
Posted by: Fairfax | October 18, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
jock
PS – I like how you used the words “not particularly racist” when describing obamas church. operative word being “particularly”.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
badger, Whats the matter do you think you have a lock on the racist label? You hate blacks and socialists, and Obama is only half of each so you can only half hate him.
Posted by: Fairfax | October 18, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Sarah Palin is by far more qualified than barack obama, and that is why the media, and obama surrogates continue to smear sarah Palin 24/7. They know she is the real deal.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Badger:
When you look at Obama…do you see a White man or do you see a Black man? Just based on his skin color. Obama is mixed race, he made his choice to identify as an African-American (as many biracial people do..an example would be Halle Berry, her mother is White, her father was Black and he was not around when she was growing up..she identifies as African-American). That was his right. Doesn’t matter who nutured him. Do you think his mother would love him any less if she was still alive? Seems to me she did an excellent job raising him and she would have been proud to see him as the man he is today.
Posted by: Margie | October 18, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Badger I suppose you dont think that your racist at all. I happen to think that you particularly are. Members of a predominantly black church will tend to favor the black race more, that doesnt mean they hate whites, but it does mean they are not particularly racist.
Posted by: JJ | October 18, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Badger:
Palin is not even qualified enough to run a small town without running it $21 million in debt. ;-)
Posted by: Margie | October 18, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Badger- Is that you Rush Limbaugh? You clever fat little monkey!
Posted by: JJ | October 18, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Margie, well said, you betcha!
Posted by: Jo | October 18, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
badger–12:07–i see what your saying why isnt there any documentation of his life–no friends–no college buddies –no not6hing just speehes and an intelectual think tank demeanor—maybe just maybe he is the first genectically engineered socialist world leader. he does seem to have a natural aversion to children born naturally and living.
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
cisc: “he does seem to have a natural aversion to children born naturally and living.” — That is one of the most disgusting and dishonest things I have heard anyone say all year.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 18, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Obama supporters doing what they do best, run from the facts, distort the truth, spew vicious insults. ACORN would be proud :D
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Cisc, I think you have his secret. Hes a genetically engineered socialistic, alien from the planet Zarnon! Why he even alluded to his otherworldy genesis in that speech the other day! He said Krypton and acted like it was a joke, but we all know what he meant! Yes it must be! That explains it all. Everybody knows that Zarnon is a soialist planet full of half black white haters!… You guys are idiots. The funny thing is this is not far from what the conservs have been coming up with! You guys are the lowest form of life. No aliens would come to this planet because they would intercept the Faux news broadcasts and figure there is no intelligent life here.
Posted by: Jo | October 18, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Badger
I thought you would appreciate that. My point was there may well be some people in the church with mildly racist inclinations (although I haven’t seen any of it), as there are in many white churches as well. But we know Obama is not racist, so I really don’t see what the point is.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 18, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Badger :
If that is what you think we do, then you have to admit that we learned from the best–> The Republicans!! ;-)
Posted by: Margie | October 18, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Twice elected Mayor and current Governor of Alaska
vs
jr senator/failed southside chicago community organizer.
sorry people , but obama does not match up at all.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Jo
you are so correct. Hannity would scare all intelligent life from visiting this planet. ;-)
Posted by: annazette | October 18, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Even Barack Obama could not defend what his former pastor was preaching – so please stop with all this “you’ll have that in black churches” crap.
Posted by: Johnson | October 18, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Obamas neighborhood has more people in it than that governors state. He has dealt with more people helping them find housing than Palin has ever seen in her tenure as mayor of wasilia. Palin entered into her mayorship with a town that had zero debt, and when she left they had 21 million in debt, and the only thing she did was build a ice skating rink.
Posted by: mitch | October 18, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
The lead investigator , and the man who is supposed to oversee the investigation of troopergate
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?num=1221142758;start=all
Even with their biased political witch hunt, Palin was found to have been within her right to fire Monegan.
They had nothing so that fabricated an ethics violation. pathetic creatures.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
jock 58901–it is well documented that is is a racist when it comes to the unborn–and even more so agaisnt bothched live birth abortions. check his illinois senate records on that one –he wears them as a badge of honor in liberal circles–comrade obama
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Do we really want to bring in pastors, because Palin was prayed over by a pastor who believed he rid a village of a witch, she belongs to a church that believes Alaska is going to be the place that people come to during the Last Days.
Posted by: annazette | October 18, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
annagazette, yep we really do want to bring in preachers, because Wright was obamas spiritual mentor for 20 years while spewing hateful racially divisive, and anti american rhetoric. Oh and did I mention, that same pastor, baptized obamas daughters , and married obama , and his wife?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
maybe he did rid his home village of a witch
Posted by: Johnson | October 18, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Obama offers tax cuts for 95 percent of all American families. He offers three times more tax relief for the middle class than McCain does. This will be decisive in the election.
Posted by: Stefan Nilsson | October 18, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Annazette, Lets not forget that she and her church also believe that the earth was formed just 6,000 years ago, and that humans kept dinosaurs as pets. Its no wonder it took her 6 years and 6 different schools to get a bachelors degree in Barbie 101. She would never be able to be accepted to take the entrance exam at harvard, let alone graduate magna cum laude, and be the president of the harvard law review. Lets see we can either choose her or someone with a masters degree in constitutional law, hhmmmmmm….
Posted by: SemperFi | October 18, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
jock58901–you said my post was the most digusting post ever–it was the truth plain and simple –you want to know digusting–leaving a baby who survives an abortion alone to die what is even more digusting is making laws that make such a practice legal–and even more disgusting is someone who votes for that man–but his guilt will be on your head as well by pulling that lever or pushing that button–and the death of all those babies that will die by that law will be extracted from your soul–it will eat you up
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
some people choose to take the Bible at face value
I don’t remember ever reading anything about Black Liberation Theology in Matthew, Mark, Luke or John though.
Posted by: johnson | October 18, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Rev. Wright is an attention-seeking loudmouth who can often use divisive rhetoric. But I haven’t seen him to be anti-American or racist. Obama condemned the divisive part, from the beginning.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 18, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
I wish Bush or Cheney, or McCain even had masters degrees in constitutional law, maybe then they would understand they cant destroy it, and would respect our rights instead of trampling them. Obama will protect our rights!
Posted by: grumpybumpy | October 18, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
stefan
Obama doesnt offer tax cuts to 95% of all americans.- LIE -
40% dont even pay taxes. What the 40% would recieve would is a credit, more famously and disaffectionately know as, a WELFARE payment through a redistribution of wealth compliments of hard working americans who are being over taxed.
That is class warfare, and that is WRONG
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Farrakhan’s latest speech-white people are descended from the devil and the black people are the chosen one of Allah. Farrakhan who is loved by Pflger and Wright and Wright who Obama thinks of as family. Need I say more?
Posted by: Linda/Michigan | October 18, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Remeber what Obamas spiritual mentor of 20 years said about obama?
Pastor Wright said
“Barack is a politician who will say , and do whatever he has to”
Does that sound like the new above the fray politician obama claimed to be?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Obama the new Osama in Muslim dominated Indonesia? It is politically incorrect to mention the fact Obama attended a Muslim school in Indonesia and even made a slip of tongue on ABC by saying“my muslim religion” however, the opposite is true in Indonesia. Muslims are celebrating Obama’s Muslim heritage by replacing Osama tee shirts with messianic images of Obama on their teeshirts. Further, an Obama presidency has emboldened the Indonesian government’ brutal repression in Papau. Muslim’s in Indonesia see an Obama Presidency as a sign the US is acquiescing to the superiority of Islam. Tee-shirts are now being embazened with an messianic image of Obama . In Indonesia Barack Obama is fast becoming the “Osama bin Laden” of Indonesia’s young wannabe Islamists.
Posted by: alert | October 18, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Badger, Those people are already recieving welfare for the most part so what is your point. You would like to do away with welfare? It is socialistic and it has been a part of our society for a long time, and its not going away ok? Public schools are socialistic, and many other things and they arent going away either. Bushs bailout is socialistic. I guess you would like those on welfare to be dumped on the street and recieve no help whatsoever? You act like they are making out so good, but they will only be able to just get by no matter what. Obama isnt going to make them wealthy. Typically conservative of you, you probably believe homeless people should be gathered up and terminated because they are a drain on society.
Posted by: JJ | October 18, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
forget Ayers, forget ACORN, forget lack of any experience, forget Tony Rezko, forget Rev. Wright, forget Fannie/Freddie, forget troop defunding, forget spreading the wealth, forget the misogyny, forget the ####-slapping of Hillary, forget Frank Marshall Davis, forget Iran/no preconditions, forget voting against Born Alive Protection Act(4 times), forget ghostwritten book?, forget Annenberg Challenge, forget sex ed(and I mean SEX ED) for kindergarten children, forget 57 states, forget the 2005 Energy bill, forget tire pressure gauges, forget voter fraud………………….Ad infinitum Now a dream come true would be if Obama supporters forget voting for Obama on Nov. 4 since they appear to be so forgetful about everything else related to Obama.
Posted by: pilot | October 18, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
How long are blacks going to expect a double standard?
I ve never owned a slave, have any of you? have any of you been slaves? only have I not owned a slave, but none have my ancestors have. my descendants came here from Italy in the early 1900s, but because I am white, I’m supposed to feel guilty about something? Do blacks feel guilty about all of the whites who have been victims of brutal hateful black on white crime for decades, and decades? Should blacks pay reparations for their crimes against humanity?
Bottom line, if McCain chose a racially polarizing Eurocentic church to attend for 20 years , where hateful rhetoric were spewed weekly. He’d have been forced out of politics years ago.
Why should obama be exempt from the same one way ticket out of politics?
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
semperfi–are you talking about the preacher that said —lord make a way for her–it cannot be said that a way was not made–more correct– thee way. if it were not for our dear sarah– obama would have an insurmountable lead in the polls.. john mccain who have been dead in the water..sarah is the woman we have been waiting for 200 years– mccain was not going to get anything done without conservatives–he had to take her on –it was the only way
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
4 Linda/Michigan
Black people say the only people Black Muslims care about are other Black Muslims. Farrakhan does not represent ALL Black people, most def not Black non-Muslims and he is not invloved with Obama. Find some real facts.
Posted by: GEN X | October 18, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
a little comic relief from the 80′s =)
http://play.napster.com/track/24808076
Posted by: Johnson | October 18, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Here’s a quick run-down of some of Barack Obama’s questionable and disturbing associations:
* Rabidly anti-Israel Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi. The Obamas were regular dinner guests at Khalidi’s Hyde Park home for years.
* Terrorist sympathizer Ali Abunimah, who runs the viciously anti-Israel web site Electronic Intifada.
* Unrepentant Weather Underground terrorists William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.
* Reverend Jeremiah Wright. What more needs to be said?
* Anti-Israel foreign policy adviser Samantha Power — fired after calling Hillary Clinton a “monster.”
* Anti-Israel foreign policy adviser Robert Malley — fired when it was revealed he has been holding talks with Hamas.
* Hatem El-Hady, former official of the Hamas-linked charity Kindhearts, closed by the Justice Department. El-Hady’s web page—with Michelle Obama listed as an opt-in “friend”—suddenly vanished from the Obama campaign site with no explanation, after being exposed by LGF and others.
* Tony Rezko — a Chicago fixer currently in a whole lot of legal trouble.
There are more, I know; this is just off the top of my head.
I have never witnessed a presidential election in which a major candidate had this many skeletons in his closet.517
Don’t forget Obama’s friend and cousin Raila Odinga, who recently ran for president in Kenya, promising to impose Sharia law if elected.
Posted by: curious | October 18, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Badger
If Obama had actually attended a church where “hateful rhetoric were spewed weekly,” he probably would be out of it by now. That would be convenient for you, wouldn’t it?
Posted by: jock59801 | October 18, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Obama’s Simple Plan to Destroy America:
(1) Through higher taxes, kill the goose (American Business) that lays the golden eggs of jobs and higher 401 K growth
(2) Kill any incentive of American Buiness earning less than $250,000 to make more money and create more jobs for fear of their taxes going up.
(3) Encourage people earning less than $30,000 to remains poor less they loose all those free tax rebates Obama is promising.
(4) Once American Business gets taxed to the hilt (60% of gross income under Obama) and goes out of business there will be zero taxes to pay for all the free health care, college education etc etc. government programs Obama is promising and we will all be standing in government soup lines.
(5) Ayers will have acheived his goal and destroyed America with the help of his good buddy Obama.
Posted by: Joe the Plumber | October 18, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
jj
I would agree that the bailout plan is socialistic, and that Bush has brought in more goverment in his term than in the last 20 years, but I dont agree with Bush, I never voted for Bush. As for schools, I dont agree with government dicating where our kids should go to school, and what they should be taught( propaganda). I dont agree with welfare for the lazy, and those who learn to milk it.
I am absolutely opposed to obama, his past, present, and his vision for the future.
Posted by: Badger | October 18, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
jj—for years mentally ill and homeless were put in institutions in horrid conditions–guess who freed them–i mean deinstitutionalised them. you betcha ronald reagon. it is the undetermined actions or side-effects of liberal policies gone awry that is the real danger to humanity..especially in a fully controlled central government of corrupt officials
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
genx–but he is involved with michele my bell
Posted by: cisc | October 18, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Attention, Obama/Biden Supporters.The time is now, its just a few weeks left till the Election.Lets show are support on these posts for Obama/Biden.America needs a change, we cant stand another 4 years of Bush’s Policy’s, that McCain will continue!
Posted by: Demo Rules | October 18, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Obama strategy is to divide and conquer. Anyone who opposes him is called a “racist”. Anyone earning over 250G is “rich” and must be punished. That is why Gov. Palin and Joe the Plummer were immediately vilified by Obama and his surrogates. Both Gov. Palin and Joe the Plummer exposed the lies of the Obama divide and conquer by race and class strategy. Gov. Palin came from a humble background and through her own hard work and initiative became Gov. of Alaska. Joe the Plummer asked Obama why would Obama want to put the road block of higher taxes in the way of Joe the Plummer achieving the American Dream. Obama for once gave an honest answer by saying he wanted “to spread the wealth around”, Joe Plummer’s wealth. That is why Obama and his surrogates are doing everything they can to destroy the messenger because the message they carry is to expose Obama for the liar and fraud he is.
Obama’s idea of “change we need” is to by force of law, take the wealth of those who have earned it, filter it through a corrupt and bloated bureaucracy and than hand out what’s left over to those who have not earned the money. Despicable.
Posted by: Friday | October 18, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Fridays wake-up call, I guess you dont know most Americans dont even make over 100k a year so yes anyone making 250k a year is rich in my book.
Posted by: Demo Rules | October 18, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Where is ABC news when it comes to ACORN being a deadbeat?
noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/18/when-it-comes-to-tax-liens-acorn-is-king/
Why is Barack Obama giving ACORN $832,000 when it is a tax dead beat? (Hat tip to an intrepid NoQuarter reader.) Before Obama and Biden cast any more stones at poor Joe the Plumber for a $1200 tax lien, they might want to insist that their buddies at ACORN pony up the HALF-MILLION DOLLARS they owe the Federal Government. That’s right boys and girls, according to Louisiana State financial records, ACORN is a mega deadbeat:
INITIAL AMOUNT: $547,312
INITIAL DOCKET #: 424212708
AMOUNT: $547,312
FILING DATE: 03/10/2008
INITIAL DATE: 03/10/2008
UPDATE DATE: 05/07/2008
Name SSN/EIN Address
IRS
PLAINTIFF
ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS FOR REFORM NOW
DEBTOR
1024 ELYSIAN FIELDS AVE
NEW ORLEANS, LA 70117
Posted by: deadbeatACORN | October 18, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Fellow Democrats, The time to rise up and support, Obama/Biden is at hand.This Country’s Economy is in ruins, and who do we have to thank for that? McCain/Republicans.Vote Obama/Biden in 2008
Posted by: Demo Rules | October 18, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Friday: (“Obama’s idea of “change we need” is to by force of law, take the wealth of those who have earned it, etc. etc”)
Are you completely unaware that we already have a graduated tax system where people with higher income pay a higher percentage?? And that it’s been that way for decades?
You don’t really think this is something new, do you?
Posted by: EM | October 18, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Fox news reporting Missouri investigating credit card fraud concerning Obama fundraising. People have been opening their credit card statement to find that they have been charged $2300 for donations to Obama campaign and they did not make the donations.
Posted by: Obamafundraisingfraud | October 18, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
The McCain campaign is seeking to clarify a remark reported from a Sarah Palin fundraiser in North Carolina yesterday in which the Alaska Governor declared that she loved to visit the “pro-America” areas of the country — implying, implicitly, that there were some parts of the United States she viewed as not pro-America.
________________
This woman maliciously and falsely slanders and debases the sacrifices of all of those brave young men and women who fought and died in the service of this nation. Where are those areas of the country that are not “pro-American?”
Have these people no sense of decency in their maniacal pursuit of the White House? I, as one who is a new American, am deeply repulsed by these revolting attacks that have no basis in fact or morality. This does not represent the America I read about as a child.
Posted by: rhbate | October 18, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
EM, It’s new when Obama’s whole mantra for “change we need” is to get the money he needs for his “TRILLION DOLLAR” government give away programs off the backs of American business. If you add up all the higher taxes Obama is talking about imposing on American business plus all the other State and Local Taxes, Obama’s tax increases will add up to 60% of a businesses gross income. I do not know about you, but I work for a small business that employs 7 people, so their gross income is over $250,000. The people that own the business work longer hours than I do. Obama has never had to meet a payroll, so he has no concept of what it is like to try and keep the revenue flowing in so there is enough money to pay your workers. Things are so tough now that my bosses are already saying that they may have to lay off some staff. If Obama gets elected, it will be the hay stack that broke the camels back and they will surely have to close down and lay off all their staff. People wake up before it is too late and vote McCain/Palin if you want to keep your jobs. American business can’t afford to pay for all of Obama’s government give away programs and keep afloat. That is the bottom line.
Posted by: Friday | October 18, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Just waiting for Colin Powell (someone on his side with ethics) to endorse Obama…
Put a fork in McCain, he’s done
Posted by: PasteEater | October 18, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Friday – Nobody will pay a dime more than they did 8 years ago, the last time this country was on the right path. Green is the way of the future. Obama will create millions of jobs by getting the ball seriously rolling on that. Small business will benefit. So will workers as they’ll finally have affordable coverage and stronger unions. It’s win win for everybody except the greediest 5% of Americans. Obama isn’t after their votes.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | October 18, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
EM, It’s new when Obama’s whole mantra for “change we need” is to get the money he needs for his “TRILLION DOLLAR” government give away programs off the backs of American business. If you add up all the higher taxes Obama is talking about imposing on American business plus all the other State and Local Taxes, Obama’s tax increases will add up to 60% of a businesses gross income. I do not know about you, but I work for a small business that employs 7 people, so their gross income is over $250,000. The people that own the business work longer hours than I do. Obama has never had to meet a payroll, so he has no concept of what it is like to try and keep the revenue flowing in so there is enough money to pay your workers. Things are so tough now that my bosses are already saying that they may have to lay off some staff. If Obama gets elected, it will be the hay stack that broke the camels back and they will surely have to close down and lay off all their staff. People wake up before it is too late and vote McCain/Palin if you want to keep your jobs. American business can’t afford to pay for all of Obama’s government give away programs and keep afloat. That is the bottom line.
Posted by: Friday | October 18, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Why would McCain decide to go positive at this point?? He hasn’t been positive the ENTIRE campaign, nor has Palin. He just allows her to just go out there and foam at the mouth.. and spout LIE after LIE, and distortion after distortion just to get people brainwashed into believing their BS spew. If he did decide to go positive at this point, which obviously does not come natural for him, would be just a ploy. And personally I have already heard enough of his hate-ridden spew that I just can’t listen to him anymore. And just hearing Palin talk at this point makes my skin crawl. My moral conviction tells me that these people are not normal, and certainly NOT what America needs right now!
Posted by: lkinopfl | October 18, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
“Attention McCain” do what is best for this Country, gracefully bow-out of the Race, before the Election. It is what America wants and it is good for the Country.
Posted by: Demo Rules | October 18, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Demo Rules
What are you talking about? Democracy is not badgering a candidate to “drop out” before the people have a chance to vote. The people make this choice, not the candidates, and certainly not YOU.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 18, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Friday, that’s a simplistic view of the economy — and by the way, we all did a lot better when Bill Clinton was president. The economy is composed of many elements, taxes being only one. Bush cut taxes but he also allowed massive deregulation of Wall Street, and he also started a wildly expensive war — who do you think is going to pay for that???? Did you think that was free? Obama will improve the economy overall. And as far as taxes go, he will cut taxes for 95% of American citizens.
OBAMA/BIDEN ’08
Posted by: Chris H. | October 18, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
It’s been interesting for me to watch my mother make up her mind about who to vote for. She lives in one of the wealthiest parts of the country. She has always voted Republican. But now that she’s elderly, and her income is lower, she is much more conscious of the economy and how it affects her.
She also was *shocked* when McCain picked Sarah Palin. She is sick and tired of their negativity and fear-mongering. She is tired of hearing about the distractions like the Bill Ayers nonsense, when there are real issues that she cares about. Her vote is going to Obama this year.
I bet there are many other former Republicans just like her.
Posted by: Abe | October 18, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Friday,
So glad to see that we have an expert that knows the bottom line. It isn’t so much what the candidates are saying right now, obviously the Joe or is it Sam the Plumber story is really sticking with you.
Look around, your employers are talking about lay-offs because of the situation that surrounds all of us right now. It’s a boat that MANY employers have already been in.
Year after year owners of professional sports franchises raise ticket fees, the vendors increase the price of a hot dog and a coke by a couple of bucks, t-shirts cost more yet year after year the joe-six-packs and the hockey moms continue to go and pay the ever increasing prices without a hiccup. Then, when the owner wants to build a new stadium, guess what? In some way they always want the public to support the cost of said stadium and if they don’t get their way they threaten to move. Prices also go up when they end up getting their way.
It’s as simple as that. Taxes are going to go up regardless. If you think Obama is lying to you, NEWSFLASH for you…McCain and the mouthpiece are also. After eight years of the criminal activity we’ve had from the Whitehouse you’re more than happy to continue down that same path. I’d like to give some of the people in the Republican party the benefit of the doubt when it comes to having an education but I just don’t know if that’s possible…we’re at the end of rope yet you want a Republican in the office at all costs…
Dumb and Dumber!
Posted by: PasteEater | October 18, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Obama the magic negro is going to prison.
I’m Tony Rezko and I approve this message.
Posted by: Rezko | October 18, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Michelle Obama first lady……ROFL thats funny more like first charcter in the Planet of the Apes” NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, SHE DOES HAVE A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE TO ZERA! BUT NOWHERE NEAR THE SCRUPLES! MICHELLE SHOULD BE BANISHED FROM THE USA.
Posted by: GORILLAS R US! | October 18, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
JimmyTMac, You must be smoking something if you think the so called “green jobs” Obama plans to create are for real. Obama’s “green jobs” all have to be paid for by tax payer dollars off the backs of the top 5% you so despise. Whereas, drilling for new oil, building new refineries and new nuclear power plants will pay for themselves without any government tax payer dollars paying for them.
If Obama and the Democrats would get out of the way the US could produce enough oil from oil shale to last 400 years not to mention oil from, Alaska and off shore and 100s of thousands of good high paying jobs could be created. People would not be working for the government in some kind of make work “green job” these jobs would be real and be actually producing a tangible and here and now energy source, “black gold”.
Per the Rand Corporation:
http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9143/index1.html
“The Green River Formation, which covers parts of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming, has the largest known oil shale deposits in the world, holding from 1.5 to 1.8 trillion barrels of oil. Of that, roughly 800 billion barrels are recoverable — more than triple Saudi Arabia’s proven oil reserves. Present U.S. demand for petroleum products is about 20 million barrels per day, so 800 billion barrels would last for more than 400 years if oil shale could be used to meet a quarter of that demand.
Oil Shale Technology Prospects
Two processing approaches are available for producing shale oil — mining followed by surface retorting and in-situ retorting. The current state of the art in mining appears to meet the requirements for commercially developing oil shale. The technical viability of surface retorting technology has been demonstrated, but large-scale testing will be required to develop scale-up information for first-of-a-kind commercial plants. As for costs, a first-of-a-kind commercial surface retorting complex is unlikely to be profitable unless real crude oil prices are at least $70–$95 per barrel (2005 dollars) over the operating life of the plant.
As for in-situ retorting — heating oil shale in place and extracting it from the ground — Shell Oil Company has successfully conducted a small-scale field test based on slow underground heating using electric power. While larger-scale tests are needed, Shell anticipates that this in-situ method will be competitive at crude oil prices in the mid-$20s per barrel.”
Rand goes on to state that “A multimillion barrel per day industry would also yield a few hundred thousand jobs in the oil shale producing areas and in regions that contain industries that provide inputs to the production process.”
Obama and the Democrats are opposing all of this. Obama and the Democrats are against progress and creating jobs that are based on real and tangible energy solutions. Obama’s idea of “green jobs” are all based on utopian pie and the sky ideas that are unproven. The reason they are unproven is because the tax payers would have to pay for them because if they were subject to private investment, no one would pay for them.
As to Obama not caring about the 5%, this makes me really angry. It is the 5% that Obama is counting on to pay for all of his government give away programs and Obama doesn’t care about them. Well when the 5% go down the tubes due to all of Obama’s higher taxes, than everyone will care about them, but it will be too late. Everyone will be out of luck as one so called “rich” business folds and lays off all of their staff. Welcome to the next Great Depression if Obama gets elected, only worse, far worse.
Posted by: Friday | October 18, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
McCAIN YOU AND YOUR BUDDY PHIL GRAHAM’S DEREGULATION CRASHED THE ECONOMY!
The Graham-Leach act of 1999 removed all of the regulatory protections of the Glass-Stegal Act put in place post Depression in 1932. The Glass-Steagal Act regulations stopped banks from doing exactly what they did in recent years, get to big and run wild!!!
In 2000 Phil Graham came back under George Bush and a Republican Congress and removed the rest of the regulations on financial institutions that eventually led to this entire mess!!!!
This week that earned PHIL GRAHAM an honored place on CNN’s “10 worst culprits” of the current financial crisis!
I don’t see Barnie Frank, Chuck Schumer or Chris Dodd on CNN’s “culprits list!”
And John McCain voted against deregulation time and time again throughout his career in both the House and Senate..
There is no denying these facts and Phil Graham was/is McCain’s principle economic adviser!!
CASE CLOSED!
Let’s elect SMART LEADERS FOR A CHANGE! Obama/Biden ’08!!
Posted by: Davis | October 18, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
“Michelle Obama first lady……ROFL thats funny more like first charcter in the Planet of the Apes” NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, SHE DOES HAVE A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE TO ZERA! BUT NOWHERE NEAR THE SCRUPLES! MICHELLE SHOULD BE BANISHED FROM THE USA.”
hahahaha! we’ll call her,
FIRST GORILLA!
Posted by: Mavis | October 18, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
PasteEater, The reason we are in the economic mess we are now is all the fault of Obama and the Democrats. Obama and the Democrats were in the tank with Fannie and Freddie and blocked every effort by the Republicans to regulate Fannie and Freddie and stop them from underwriting all of those bad loans. Obama received more money from Fannie and Freddie than any other Senator than Dodds. Obama is in the tank with ACORN, who got the ball rolling by strong arming banks into handing out loans to people who could not afford them. McCain sponsored a bill in 2005 that would regulated Fannie and Freddie and by a straight line party vote every Democrat opposed the bill in committee.
Obama and the Democrats plan for higher taxes on business, TRILLION dollar spending programs plus strangling our economy even further by placing global warming mandates on American Industry will literally lead to economic armageden and we will all perish. Even Europe is backing of of their global warming mandates because, No 1. they don’t work and No. 2. they are destroying their economy.
Posted by: Friday | October 18, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I can’t believe the number of people who are falling for the “Obama is a muslim” red herring, so I’ll make it easy for you dummies. He can’t be the follower of an anti-white pastor in Jeremiah Wright, and a muslim out to hurt America at the same time, as much as you’d want him to be.
In reality, neither of them are true, I just like to point out how scrambled up the Obama haters are with their message.
Posted by: Chris in NH | October 18, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
you can put lipstick on Michelle, but it’s still a gorilla
Posted by: BUCKY NOBAMA | October 18, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Obama is a muslim. Once a muslim, always a muslim.
Posted by: Oprah Winfrey | October 18, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
friday=== trillion? $ that’s just what Bush gave his Rich and greedy friends. and if you remember McCain’s advisor got more money from Fannie and Freddie than Obama and the Burning Bush signed that mortgage bill
Posted by: michael | October 18, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Davis, You do not have your facts straight. The current economic crisis is all due to Fannie and Freddie and all the bad loans they were underwriting.
It was the Democrats that consistently
opposed any regulations on Fannie and Freddie. McCain tried in 2005 to get
Fannie and Freddie regulated by co-sponsoring a bill that would have regulated Fannie and Freddie and all of the Democrats were against it. Here is what McCain said to Congress and May 25, 2005:
http://purplepeoplevote.com/2008/10/03/mccain-2005-reform-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac/
McCain 2005 – Reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
John Mccain May 25, 2005 from the Senate floor discussing the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
“Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”
Case closed.
Posted by: Thepeoplespeak | October 18, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Okay Everyone… on both sides, FACTCHECK.ORG
If you think the opposing candidate is misrepresenting the truth, go there. It is a non-partisan research group that has been established by the Annenberg Foundation in response to the Smear Campaigns that have gone on since 1984. Using technology, mining data from reliable sources (federal government archive websites, news archives, etc.) they will find the and report the Truth in what candidates and their supporters in State and National campaigns say.
Oh and for the record, Obama’s father’s side is from Kenya (that’s in Africa) and his cousin there is the Elected President (his cousin was called a terrorist too, by the military despot in power). Crack a book people.
Ayers, he was in a group protesting the Vietnam War, like many in that generation at the time (his merry band of idiots went too far). Why blame Obama for this, that was 40 years ago and a whole different set of circumstances (The Bush family has strong ties to the Bin Laden family too, and how much have you been paying at the pump for the last eight years). Obama had been working to improve his community, that’s better than going to Washington and lining your “friends” pockets like most Republican politicians have done (Lincoln S&L). Ayers has been in organizations helping people for many years here in Chicago (maybe in some small part to atone for his past stupidity, more likely because he cares about people) and that is where he met Obama.
Now for a little bit of truth about TAXES, the reason why our national debt has skyrocketed is because the party in power for most of the time since 1980 has written in lines into the tax code giving companies and individuals blanket tax exemption (that’s why it’s over a thousand pages). Unfortunately there is no law to make it illegal to add additions to the tax code without having your name all over it. And since reading tax code is at best tedious, at worst you’d shoot yourself by the hundredth page, everyone in congress passes the tax codes blindly. Because of this, many of these companies who’ve been padding their profit after tax numbers by these blind additions to the tax code can make more money and bad decisions (they might be operating at a loss if they were paying taxes, and hence out of a job). Most of the taxes paid in the U.S.A. are paid inordinately by the middle class and a few years ago the G.A.O. had issued a report on this.
Posted by: The Doctor | October 18, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
michael, I do not know who Bush’s “rich and greedy friends” are. As to whose staff benefited more from Fannie and Freddie, that would be Raines and Johnson who both are on Obama’s staff.
In 2005, Fannie Mae revealed it overstated earnings by $10.6 billion and that it didn’t really know what was going on. The Bush administration pushed for reforms, but those efforts were rebuffed by Congress, with Democrats Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd taking point, because Fannie and Freddie have spent millions in campaign contributions.
In 2005, McCain sponsored legislation to thwart what he later called “the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole.”
Obama, the Senate’s second-greatest recipient of donations from Fannie and Freddie after Dodd, did nothing. Oh yes, Obama said he sent a letter to but if the letter even exists, Obama did nothing to help persuade his Democratic buddies, Dodds and Frank to stop blocking Fannie and Freddie regulation efforts that was being sponsored by the Republicans.
Meanwhile, Raines, the head of a government-supported institution, made $52 million of his $90 million compensation package thanks in part to fraudulent earnings statements.
But, ah yes, the greedy criminals responsible for this mess must be somewhere on Wall Street or the fault of Bush or McCain. No no no, Obama and the Democrats could not possibly be behind it even if the facts show they are.
Posted by: Friday | October 18, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
thepeoplesneak===long=== and quite boring— and UNtruthful George Bush HAPPLY signed into law the mortgage bill you refer to. and MORE than a few Republicans voted for this measure But— that is just inconvenient FACT to a Republican
Posted by: 9michael99 | October 18, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Oh by the way, for those who referred to Michelle Obama as a gorilla. Once a racist always a racist, you might just as well get on your sheet and hood and drive to downtown Atlanta in broad daylight and shout it from the rooftops.
Posted by: The Doctor | October 18, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Obama is a muslim. Once a muslim, always a muslim.
Posted by: Oprah Winfrey | Oct 18, 2008 4:57:51 PM
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And your point is?
Posted by: rhbate | October 18, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
The McCain campaign is seeking to clarify a remark reported from a Sarah Palin fundraiser in North Carolina yesterday in which the Alaska Governor declared that she loved to visit the “pro-America” areas of the country — implying, implicitly, that there were some parts of the United States she viewed as not pro-America.
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This woman maliciously and falsely slanders and debases the sacrifices of all of those brave young men and women who fought and died in the service of this nation. Where are those areas of the country that are not “pro-American?”
Have these people abandoned all sense of decency in their maniacal pursuit of the White House? I, as one who is a new American, am deeply repulsed by these revolting attacks that have no basis in fact or morality. This does not represent the America I read about as a child.
Posted by: rhbate | October 18, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
doctor I believe factcheck to be unbiased.But I don’t know if you are aware==annenburgh foundation funded the group that the controversy about Ayers and Obama is centered in Annenburgh got around he was a great philanthropist and a great man
Posted by: 9michael99 | October 18, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
I see the Republican bloggers are running scared, again, today! Even making downright ugly remarks about Michelle. Personal attacks on either Michelle or Cindy are way out of line. What is wrong with you nutwings?
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
From right-wing polling site:
18-10-2008 IBD/TIPP DAILY:
Obama 47.2%
McCain 39.8%
Obama +7.3
They were the most accurate national poll in 2004.
http://www.tipponline.com/
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
9michael99 ,You sound very confused or maybe you are intentionally trying to confuse the issue. The bill I am referring to Bill S90, that would have regulated Fannie and Freddie never got out of committee because it was opposed by a straight line party vote with all of the Democrats voting against it.
FACT: McCain cosponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190,
McCain: “If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”
FACT: All the Democrats in the Financial Housing Committee opposed the bill by a straight party line vote.
Barney Frank: “These two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” Frank said to the Times. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
FACT: Obama did nothing in the Senate to help support the Republican efforts of reigning in Fannie and Freddie. The letter Obama refers to is missing in action and even if it does exist, why didn’t Obama do anything to persuade Dodds and Frank to stop blocking efforts by the Republicans to regulated Fannie and Freddie. Obama received more money from Fannie and Freddie than any other Senator other than Dodds. Raines and Johnson, former CEOs of Fannie and Freddie are on Obama’s campaign team. Raines received 90 million dollars in compensation Raines, the head of a government-supported institution, made $52 million of his $90 million compensation package thanks in part to fraudulent earnings statements.
Posted by: thepeoplespeak | October 18, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
sandy, I do not think those ugly remarks about Michelle are coming from Republicans, I believe they are coming from Obama supporters who are trying to make McCain supporters look bad. Look what happened at a Palin campaign rally when a reporter said that someone shouted in the crowd “kill him”. The secret service investigated this and found the report to be false. Obama supporters are using the Alinsky tactics from “Rules for Radicals’ that Obama learned about and used as a community worker in Chicago. The Rules for Radical book was dedicated to Satan.
Posted by: sensible | October 18, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Friday, you must be trying to set some kind of record for the most inaccurate postings. You told someone that “You must be smoking something if you think the so called “green jobs” Obama plans to create are for real. Obama’s “green jobs” all have to be paid for by tax payer dollars off the backs of the top 5% you so despise. ”
Well, my husband does research and development in solar energy. Some, not all, of the revenue his company gets is from government funding. Despite Bush’s backwardness, the U.S. government DOES already invest a tiny amount in alternative energy. And yes, we are in the top 5% income-wise, and voting for Obama. Obama will invest a lot more in alternative energy, and this WILL create green jobs. It will also secure our energy future AND it will help with national security by reducing our dependence on countries that don’t like us.
He has the vision, and we believe in his plans. We have seen how it works when government invests in smart technologies.
Your post was extremely short-sighted.
Posted by: Amy K. | October 18, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
In 2004, George Bush used the very same smear tactic against McCain that McCain are now using against Obama. Those tactics got us a divided America that are now on the verge of financial collapse. If McCain can use these same smear tactics to win in 2008, he will be unable to govern effectively because the democrats are not going to work with him. The loser once again will be America.
Posted by: johnnylee | October 18, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
johnnylee, as much as I agree with your point, the smear tactics against McCain were in the 2000 election, not 2004. Bush was the incumbent president and no Republican was running against him in 2004.
Posted by: Chris in NH | October 18, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Warning There will no BuT. kis.. allow on Obama ticket….
Posted by: t.v.eddie | October 18, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Amy K, You just proved my point. Your husbands job is supplemented with tax payer’s dollars. Would your husbands job exist without tax payer dollar support? I think not. I rest my case.
Whereas, the oil from oil shale, from off shore drilling and from Alaska requires no tax payer dollar support and will create 100s of thousands of jobs. Yes you are smoking something when you expect the the tax payers to foot the bill for your husband’s job.
The problem is that if Obama gets elected and implements his TRILLION dollar government give away programs on the backs of American business, American business’s back will be broken and than there will be no money to pay for Obama’s TRILLION dollar give away programs including your husbands job. If your husband job was really worth anything, the tax payers would not have to supplement it and people would be more than willing to pay for whatever your husband is selling in the free market.
A command and control economy has been tried before and it failed because whenever the free choices of people to spend their money on what they think is valuable is taken over by the dead hand of government, the dead hand of government never makes the right decisions and becomes riddled with corruption, greed and power. Power to the the free choice of a free people to decide what is best for them. Down with an autocratic government who thinks it knows best under the rule of someone like Obama who has never met a payroll and is so egotistical he actually thinks he is the “one” who can “save the world.” Obama is so filled with himself he doesn’t even know how little he knows. Obama is scary. Real scary.
Posted by: Friday | October 18, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
In 1998, Liddy’s home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator’s campaigns–including $1,000 this year.
Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as “an old friend,” and McCain sounded like one. “I’m proud of you, I’m proud of your family,” he gushed. “It’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.”
For those who are unaware, Liddy helped plan the Watergate break-in that would cost Nixon his presidency and landed Liddy a four-year jail sentence.
But Liddy’s career of inflammatory statements and actions exceed his Watergate actions.
Liddy, on Vitenam:
“I wanted to bomb the Red River dykes [sic]. It would have drowned half the country and starved the other half. There would have been no way the Viet Cong could have operated if we had the will-power to do that.”
Liddy, advising Branch Davidians how to defend themselves from ATF agents during a radio show:
“If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they’re wearing flak jackets and you’re better off shooting for the head.”
Liddy, on the impact Adolf Hitler had on him as a child:
When he listened to Hitler on the radio, it “made me feel a strength inside I had never known before,” he explains. “Hitler’s sheer animal confidence and power of will [entranced me]. He sent an electric current through my body.”
Posted by: rhbate | October 18, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
McCain and Sarah Palin have run a very ugly campaign that shows exactly how the country would be viewed if they were elected. It’s as if they don’t care what they say or do, as long as they can make this election as ugly as they can. My sincerest hope is that McCain and Sarah Palin lose and the country wins.
Posted by: Jemma | October 18, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Jemma, McCain and Palin have not run an ugly campain, Obama has. Everytime something true about Obama’s cv comes to light, Obama cries racism of ugly campaign. The reason for that is most everything about background and alias are downright ugly.
Obama supporters say to everyone: forget Ayers, forget ACORN, forget lack of any experience, forget Tony Rezko, forget Rev. Wright, forget Fannie/Freddie, forget troop defunding, forget spreading the wealth, forget the misogyny, forget the ####-slapping of Hillary, forget Frank Marshall Davis, forget Iran/no preconditions, forget voting against Born Alive Protection Act(4 times), forget ghostwritten book?, forget Annenberg Challenge, forget sex ed(and I mean SEX ED) for kindergarten children, forget 57 states, forget the 2005 Energy bill, forget tire pressure gauges, forget voter fraud………………….Ad infinitum.
Sorry, I am not a blind Obama supporter who forgets everything about the ugly aspects of Obama’s background and alliances. I say before it is to late, look at the real face behind the fake mask of la la land you are seeing in Obama. It’s not real. The real Obama is not a very nice guy and if elected, his economic policies of destroying American business will mean economic disaster for our Nation.Not to mention the fact, Muslims in Indonesia are no longer wearing tee-shirts with Osama’s picture, Obama is their new hero. Think about it.
Posted by: James | October 18, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
The issue is very simple! :)
Do you want to vote for the change=socialism candidate?
Do the research first!
Read two books written by the man Obama said he learned the most from! And, the same books he took phrases from for his speeches!
They are “Reveille for Radicals” and “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky. You can read excerpts on Amazon.com.
Think about this:
Obama seems to confuse the Sermon on the Mount and a heart changed by God with a government enforced type of socialism.
And, he must have forgotten this scripture: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ says the LORD of hosts.
Also, you might want to check out the definition and History of Socialism:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/551569/socialism#tab
Posted by: aware2u | October 18, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
I don’t know, James. You’re telling Jemma that she’s wrong about whether McCain has run an ugly campaign. But the polls support what she’s saying. Many people have been turned off by McCain’s negative attacks and by the fact that he obsesses on distractions while most of us care about the real, important issues.
Even David Brooks, the conservative columnist, said that all that silly “terrorist” stuff doesn’t stick to Obama — because he’s too reassuring. He’s too smart. He’s too serious for any of us to take seriously the notion that he’s a terrorist or any of that rubbish.
McCain is out of touch with what most people are caring about this election. That’s why he’s behind in the polls.
Posted by: Ella | October 18, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Michelle is one ugly ass, angry militant racist gorilla, dontcha think?
ugggghh, go back to Kenya b*tch!
Posted by: monkey house | October 18, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
I’m voting for Obama because he’s the man for our times. He’s forward-thinking. He has an international perspective and he’s popular internationally. He will improve our reputation and relationships in the world. He will stimulate the economy by investing in high-tech industries and by giving incentives to companies that keep jobs here instead of sending jobs overseas (as so many co’s did under Bush). He will promote policies that are sane and healthy for our environment, while creating green jobs.
The old guy, McCain, has old washed-up ideas. I’m voting for a better future. OBAMA/BIDEN ’08
Posted by: CJ | October 18, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
McCain can make nice or continue his smear tactics and lies. He’s so seriously erratic that no one needs to point it out anymore, you just have to watch with pity. From his economic policy to his health care debacle. McCain’s plans will send this country down the slippery slope to hell. There is only one voice of true change and clarity and it is that of Barak Obama.
Posted by: Julez39 | October 18, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
“There is only one voice of true change and clarity and it is that of Barak Obama.”
YEAH RIGHT. THAT FREAK CAN’T MAKE UP HIS MIND FROM DAY TO DAY HE KEEPS CHANGING HIS FACE TO PANDER VOTES
Posted by: podney | October 18, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
My, my! see the Republicans are out tonight! Love this poll I saw today:
From right-wing polling site:
IBD/TIPP DAILY:
October 18
McCain 39.8%
Obama 47.2% +7.3 Obama
They were the most accurate national poll in 2004.
http://www.tipponline.com/
Now we know for sure the old cliche is true.. Denial really isn’t just an Egyptian river..
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Tell Congress to Censure Michele Bachmann
On the October 17 episode of MSNBC’s Hardball, Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota claimed that Barack Obama and other members of Congress share anti-American views. She also called for a media investigation to root out those in government that were “Anti-Amerrican”.
Bachmann thinks that anyone who disagrees with her personal political agenda is unpatriotic.
Her fellow members of Congress need to take a stand and tell Michele Bachmann that her disgusting accusations have no place in our country. Tell Congress to censure Rep. Bachmann.
http://www.censurebachmann.com/
Posted by: mph64 | October 18, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
mph64 – MyCarthyism at its finest. She said that it was Blacks and Clinton who directly caused the economic crsis. She wants to push a story of hate and divisiveness. Just like Palin.
Have a paper bag next to you as you hear her statements…her debate with her opponent is posted on you tube but ABC will not allow me to post the URL!
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
“Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years, according to a newly updated analysis by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Compared to current law, TPC estimates the Obama plan would cut taxes by $2.9 trillion from 2009-2018. McCain would reduce taxes by nearly $4.2 trillion. Obama would give larger tax cuts to low- and moderate-income households and pay some of the cost by raising taxes on high-income taxpayers. In contrast, McCain would cut taxes across the board and give the biggest cuts to the highest-income households.”
Posted by: amazed801 | October 18, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Today Obama Quietly Bought Food for a Widow and a Disabled Roofer in Need.
Obama bought Chinese food for a woman in need in Colorado. I just read today about a woman in Colorado Springs, Colorado. An Obama campaign worker came to her door to ask her who she was voting for. She said Obama. She then told the campaign worker about her troubles – about her difficulty affording food and about how her daughter the Marine had been to Iraq twice and might be forced to continue to be in the Marines involuntarily through stop loss rules. She talked about how her husband had died of Agent Orange, after the great difficulties dealing with the VA, and the trouble she’s having trouble getting the VA to cover the medical costs she paid for him out of pocket. She told the worker how her son was out scrounging for scrap metal to earn enough money for food.
The campaign worker then called up a number, and it was Obama on the phone. She told him about his troubles.
A little while later, $40 of Chinese food came to the door. The delivery man did not speak English and could not explain where it came from. They called the manager and he said Obama had called them and put the order on his credit card.
http://www.alfrankenweb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4...
This account did not come from the campaign office – it came directly from the woman’s tenant, who regularly posts on that website.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
mph64–Aren’t you doing the same thing–making a ridiculous comment and then starting a witch hunt? Isn’t there freedom of speech,or does that apply only if we agree with your opinion?
Posted by: amazed801 | October 18, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
amazed801 – so MyCarthyism tactics equate to freedm of speech? Apparently you did not live during the McCarthy witch hunts – thousands of people’s lives were destroyed. You want to see that happen, again, – the fear, the communist under every rock, …….
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
If Obama did not understand the poison that he was associating with in Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, Father Flaigher, Bernadine Dorn… I mean, does he pay attention to ANYTHING? Bill Ayers said in 2001 that America was just as evil as those that attacked us….Obama did not understand what this meant…and still does not. Yeah, we’ve got a winner here alright.
Posted by: bill | October 18, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
bill – Yep! We DO have a winner! get used to hearing President Obama! And do not be in such a hurry to accuse Obama of his past asociations – McCain’s list is numerous including the lobbyists and former lobbyists running his camapign (perhaps destroying it would be a better word), Rick Davis who still has ties with Freddie and Fannie, G. Gordon Liddy, all in real-time, not from decades ago…….
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Atlanta Journal Constitution endorses Senator Obama!
“The contrast with the campaign run by Barack Obama could not be more stark. More than a year ago, when he was still a long shot without much money, Obama somehow managed to attract a staff talented and disciplined enough to defeat Hillary Clinton and the Clinton machine in the Democratic primaries. It has since gone on to demonstrate a great deal of political discipline, skill and innovation, running a 21st century campaign that appeals to 21st century America.
Different challenges require different strengths. Obama has demonstrated a calm, thoughtful leadership style that fits this time and this challenge well. He has laid out a wiser, more measured approach toward foreign policy that elevates diplomacy and negotiation while reserving the use of force if necessary to protect this country and its allies in a dangerous world. He understands that international respect and admiration can’t be forced at gunpoint.
Economically, Obama is better equipped to deal with a rapidly changing global situation, and his policies focus directly on the problems confronting the American working and middle classes. His tax plan, for example, proposes to cut taxes on 95 percent of American households while raising taxes only on households with an income of more than $250,000. That plan may have to be adjusted in light of a harsh new fiscal reality, but it demonstrates where Obama’s instincts and values lead him.
The same is true of his health-care proposal. It requires a comprehensive approach, including financial assistance to help small businesses buy insurance for their employees. It would also require large employers that do not offer health insurance to help their workers with the cost of buying insurance on their own.
Those are new approaches, crafted by a new generation of leaders drawn to Obama by the chance to write their own chapter in the American story. Their time has come. His time has come. Obama is a leader of rare potential, and that’s precisely what the job of our 44th president demands.”
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/2008...
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Sandy-There are all sorts of friviluos accusations that have no merit and a prudent person would recognize them as such;maybe that is the problem here. Could you ask Obama to send over some chinese food? LOL!!
Posted by: amazed801 | October 18, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Who is the real McCain? No one knows because he keeps changing. I think we know Obama better because he has stayed the same throughout his campaign. Who is the real John McCain? ???????????????
Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 18, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Some highschools are larger than Wasila, Alaska. A high school principals job is harder than being the Mayor of this outpost.
Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 18, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Michelle Obama is a good person. She is honest, truthful, moral, well educated and classy. She gives intelligent interviews and is a wonderful public speaker. She has beautiful skin, and is tall like a model. She will be a striking, gracious First Lady and hostess.
Posted by: Paula Lacey | October 18, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
amazed801- from all you have said – you are well off and do not need any help with food. To make fun of people who are in dire straits does not behoove you.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Michelle is one ugly ass, angry militant racist gorilla, dontcha think?
ugggghh, go back to Kenya b*tch!
Posted by: MONKEY HOUSE | October 18, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
MONKEY HOUSE – to begin with Michelle was born in this country. And to throw insults at either Michelle or Cindy just proves the point many liberals have been making on this blog -you have nothing to defend McCain with so you resort to unconscionable attacks.You are a true low life.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
McCain needs to show the people how his policies will HELP the public SPECIFICIALLY.
Obama plays the “patriotism” (“one” United States…yadda..yadda) and the shortsighted easily fall for it. Obama makes it sound like he will make the US into the perfect utopia (even though he has no experience) and people fall for it.
So McCain should use the same playbook but put an emphasis on how HIS plans will specifically help people.
Posted by: MikeFromNJ | October 18, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Mike – therein lies the problem – McCain has NO plans.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
John McCain’s Economic Stimulus Package:
(1) Draft all males between 18-30 for the military.
(2) Put the Detroit Automakers back to work by making military vehicles.
(3) Award Halliburton multi-billion dollar defense contracts.
(4) Start new wars in Iran and Pakistan.
Posted by: L. Hederson in Baltimore | October 18, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
WOW! Do you Republicans have anything positive to say? Hey, this if for you guys (and gals).
From RIGHT-WING polling site:
IBD/TIPP DAILY:
October 18
McCain 39.8%
Obama 47.2% +7.4 Obama
They were the most accurate national poll in 2004.
Posted by: sandy | October 18, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
I am convinced that McCain will win Virginia as well as most of the other toss-up states. There is a ground-swell of anti-Obama sentiments developing due to his socialistic tendencies and plans. It will be visible in the polls very soon and come election time I believe McCain will pull off a surprise victory – just like Truman did to Dewey in 1948.
Posted by: Amanda Moserski | October 19, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Amanda Moserski….
I think it’s time to get off those psychoactive hallucinogenic drugs….I hope those words aren’t too big for you!
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
That ground swell actually is your head swelling, you might want to lie down, probably past your bedtime
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
This Rep. Michelle Bachmann is definitely one sick whackho bi&$h. How did someone this sick ever get elected? Politicians in this country should be trying to bring all of the different races together for a better America but instead, this women sound like she is still wearing her white sheet. The hatred that she spewed on MSNBC yesterday definitely should be looked at by her colleagues. Unless she was high on drugs are drunk on alcohol, one just cannot believe that an American elected official can have that much hatred stored up inside of her. I truly feel sorry for any person that has that type of hatred for fellow Americans regardless of color.
Posted by: johnnylee | October 19, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
johnnylee….
I hate to say it, but that is the mindset of many of the Republicans that post here. You just need to read some of the filth that they’ve put up like monkey house….They will never admit it but they don’t want Obama in the Whitehouse because of the color of his skin. Most of them are all pathetic losers and many of them are uneducated…
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
PasteEater – you have a point – about Senator Obama’s supporters being educated – at least to the point where they have developed critical thinking skills and reasoning power. There is a woman on another blog who is so racist you want to slap her one. She has said more than once that she wishes soemone wouuld take a potshot at Obama.
Posted by: sandy | October 19, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
there is nothing wrong in bringing out the truth if it is for the greater good of the people to get informed. it is always better to know earlier than to get surprised that the person you voted for is not what you think he is.
may the media start to provide a real balanced reporting. many people nowadays think they really know the truth and often makes a big disservice to the people when they make biased views. look at yourself in the mirror.
Posted by: krissy | October 19, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
Going positive after weeks of smearing Obama? Nobody will believe it. Who is the real McCain?
Posted by: Dave | October 19, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
Going positive after weeks of smearing Obama? Nobody will believe it. Who is the real McCain?
Posted by: Dave | October 19, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
The most positive thing he can do is go to a nursing home, and not the White House.
Posted by: whatever | October 19, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
Who is John McCain? No one cares except the idiots.
Posted by: disgusted | October 19, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Go Positive… hahaha when elephants fly.
“fear and scare tactics” are the only campaign they know how to run.
Posted by: bluespike | October 19, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
While stumping for votes in Florida McCain ranted something about the Castro brothers and that “the Cuban people would be free, soon”. Sounds like a strong statement from an angry old guy. Does he plan to start fighting with Cuba? Maybe he should put Palin on this one after they come up with a plan to balance the budget in 4 years like McCain said he knows how to do. He sure talks alot about things he knows how to do. If he actually knows how to do all these things, what has he been waiting for, he has been in Washington for how long?? It would be good to hear him or Palin just once say how they plan to do all these things!
Posted by: nan52317 | October 19, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
IT is the media choosing our President, NOT the voters. We have a liberal media who has chosen Obama.
I’ve stopped watching George S., I’ve stopped watching Good Morning America, I’ve stopped Watching Olbermann. I’ve started reading my Bible – God is the one that needs to be leading us in the right direction of voting.
Remember – Neither man running for President will actually lead this Country. YOu have a Democratic Congress, with people such as Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi who will lead this country – we need to get those people OUT of Washington – then maybe a President can lead our Country. The Obamas and the Bidens are not leaders – they are full of hot air – promises that will never be kept. Search the internet – go to the library – you can find anything you need to help you assess the proper candidate – STOP BELIEVING THE MEDIA. START THINKING for yourself.
Posted by: Die Hard Republican | October 19, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Count me as one of the growing number of Republicans who are disgusted with John McCain. He was never a real Republican to begin with, as evidenced by his amnesty plan. I cannot vote for Obama, so my choices are to vote ignore my conscience and vote for McCain, vote for Bob Barr or stay home. I think I’m going to stay home. Call me a conscientious objector voter. If enough of us stay home, maybe we can get our Republican Party back to real Reagan principles.
Posted by: EV, Richmond, VA | October 19, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Socialism? Yes, that’s exactly what you call the $700 billion bailout plan that just nationalized our 9 biggest banks, some of them (Wells Fargo) which didn’t even need bailing out! And where was John McCain’s leadership on this issue? Oh, right, he didn’t lead on this issue; he was too busy having dinner with Joe Lieberman. John McCain supported this bailout and left out to dry all those Republicans who had the guts to say NO! Well, I’m going to be saying NO! to John McCain.
Posted by: Steve, Charlotte, NC | October 19, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Here is an article from friends of McCain – check this out, if you want John for CIC you better read this and think again.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/win-mccormack/mccain-wants-to-be-presid_b_134273.html
Posted by: Snoop | October 19, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
I am watching George & his round table this morning & I am a bit upset that he did not correct one individuals comment that it was the Republicans pushing for the bailout. As if the Republicans were the only ones. Did he forget that the Republicans were the reason it did not pass the first time thru. And while I am not a big fan of this bailout…mainly because I have many reservations about how it will be used, but do believe that ultimately something was needed…I think everyone needs to check their comments. There are so many 1/2 truths floating around it is disgraceful! And these comments are not just coming from the candidates they are coming from media, other political figures, etc! We are in a recession…Obama is pushing for what appears to be a socialist government and wants to raise our taxes. McCain isn’t as eloquent as Obama, but at least we know where he stands, he has a history, a record, he has served this country for over 20 years. Neither candidate is perfect, and there are flaws in both, but we all need to look for the truth! Stop the mud and focus on the problems at hand! I don’t know about you but I work hard for my money & unfortunately it is barely enough to keep my family afloat…I am not rich, but I don’t view myself as poor either, I feel I am on the low side of the “middle class” and I don’t want to see what I earn taken from me & shared with those who do nothing. I see it every day in my line of work…the handouts, cheating the system, the waste, etc. It is so frustrating to listen to all this and wish there was something more an average, “middle class”, God fearing American Woman could do. I want to know that my children whill grow up smart & health, with the best education we can possibly give them. I want them to know it is possible to have whatever you want if you apply yourself, not that you have to share it with everyone (socialist idea). Taxes are a part of life, so is death as the saying goes, but it is a matter of whether or not we are being taxed to death…sometimes it feels that way. Do your research, find out who closely reflects you and your beliefs, ask yourself if you can afford higher taxes, if you want to share the fruits of your labor with those who don’t work as hard as you, if you believe in America & our strength to overcome, ask yourself what types of energy you want to see happen & who is most likely to do that…Do your own research, please. Don’t take all you see, read & hear at face value.
Posted by: AS | October 19, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
The endorsement by Republican Colin Powell, of Senator Barack Obama this morning has now changed any tone McCain may try to seek.
Posted by: devilkev | October 19, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Is it just me or does Obama not scare anyone? He is friends with terrorist and ACORN. Obama IS the definition of a TERRORIST! McCAIN-PALIN 08
Posted by: Obama the terrorist | October 19, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
McCain associated w/ Nazi terriorsts===
IRAN CONTRA you know???? DEATH SQUADS???
Posted by: 9michael99 | October 19, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
My Friends, hehe, I would like to start by saying that I have objected to the negativity that both camps have been using but I actually really thought that it would help me and my PARTNER (if you know what I mean, there was only one reason why I picked her) so I’ve decided that from here on out I will run a positive campaign (until I see that that isn’t working either) by kissing as many A.S.S.E.S as I possibly can. So, when I come to your town, if you could please form a long single line with your A.S.S.E.S. out, from young to old I will try to do my best to get to kiss each and every A.S.S. supporting me.
Crap, the most respected and intelligent Republican we’ve got on our side, Mr. Colin Powell has just endorsed THAT ONE…
Poor me, nobody likes me or anything I can barely stand for; I’m getting tired of all this running around, I need some Geritol.
It’s okay John, it will soon be over and you can go back to the home, we’ve even pitched in and gotten you the Jazzy 614HD Power Chair.
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Is it just me or does Obama not scare anyone?
What, you think that old man and the mouthpiece in heels scares anyone? Give me a break.
Who are they supposed to scare? I’ve got news for you…any of the countries that we’re concerned with couldn’t care less who’s in the Whitehouse you M.O.R.O.N.
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
It’s too late to go positive, McCain. We already know you obviously don’t have anything positive to say about yourself. You had all the opportunity in the world to do so, but you decided to get ugly when you started falling in the polls. Now with just 2 weeks to go you have run out of options. Only your neocon far right base and those too racist to vote for a black man are still on your side. Regular republicans are jumping ship and it’s too late to do anything to get them back on your side.
Posted by: Maggie | October 19, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
AS – you are wrong. McCain has flip-flopped on the issue of taxes. When he was running against Bush in 2000, he was against the tax cuts that Bush was proposing. McCain said “I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle class Americans”. Now, Obama wants to go back to the tax system the way it was before Bush. McCain was against the Bush tax cuts for the rich, but now he supports them, and suddenly Obama is a socialist? I am so sick of all you neocons saying that word. What about the $300 billion that McCain wants to use to buy mortgages – that’s not “socialist”? SHUT UP WITH YOUR SOCIALISM BS. If Obama is a socialist then so is McCain!!!
Posted by: Maggie | October 19, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
THANK YOU !!!!
THANK YOU !!!!
Maggie
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Maggie….
Is it me or have you also noticed that when someone does have an argument or an attack (not necessarily towards the candidate) that has any amount of validity to it the only mode of communication afterwards is to attack and to get ugly. They have nothing or are just to ignorant to do a little research to defend their opinions….
McCain & Palin – LOSERS TO THE BITTER END
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Michelle is one ugly ass, angry militant racist gorilla, dontcha think?
ugggghh, go back to Kenya b*tch!
Posted by: MONKEY HOUSE | October 19, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
MONKEY HOUSE, STOP PLAYING WITH YOURSELF AND THE OTHER MONKEYS YOU’VE GOT THERE
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
AP IMPACT: Mortgage firm arranged stealth campaign
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081019/ap_on_bi_ge/the_influence_game_housing;_ylt=Av3XzctH.jO3XpFYp915dyoDW7oF
READ THE ARTICLE YOU RACIST WHITE PIG REPUBLICANS IF YOU CAN. SOME OF THE WORDS MAY BE TO BIG FOR YOU.
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Michelle Obama first lady……ROFL thats funny more like first charcter in the Planet of the Apes” NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, SHE DOES HAVE A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE TO ZERA! BUT NOWHERE NEAR THE SCRUPLES! MICHELLE SHOULD BE BANISHED FROM THE USA.
Posted by: . | October 19, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
PasteEater, you should change your name to
ShitEater
Posted by: pam | October 19, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
pam,
How long did it take you to come up with that? Is that all you’ve got?
Did you read the article? Probably not. Would love to hear what you have to say about that.
It’s always the same with the Republicans, blame everyone else for the mess we’re in and never accept any of the responsibility.
Hopefully you can come up with something better the next time you post should you choose to do so, then again maybe you can’t.
We’ll just call you
Cee U Next Tuesday
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Oh pam……
I went out and cut the grass in the backyard…that should have given you more than enough time to come up with that next piece of brilliance to come from your fingertips…..
I guess I was mistaken, perhaps you can get a friend to help you, then you’d have the combined education of a fifth grader!
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Sorry to all of the fifth graders out there, I didn’t mean to compare you to pam…..
Posted by: PasteEater | October 19, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Obama the magic negro is going to prison.
I’m Tony Rezko and I approve this message.
Posted by: Rezko | October 19, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
I hope McCain will expose (since the loving Obama media won’t and tries to hide anything negative about him) more lies that infiltrate the Obama campaign, such as his relationship with Ayers and the other terrorist types.
McCain’s Robo Calls Link Obama, Ayers
Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:00 PM
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CARSON CITY, Nev. — Automated telephone calls from Republican John McCain’s presidential campaign continue the effort to link Democratic nominee Barack Obama with one-time Weather Underground leader William Ayers.
The robo calls that began in Nevada, Wisconsin and other targeted states on Thursday, the day after the third and final presidential debate, say Obama “has worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, whose organization bombed the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon, a judge’s home and killed Americans.”
Obama has condemned Ayers’ radical activities, carried out as Obama has said when he was 8. There’s no evidence they were ever close friends or that Ayers advised Obama on policy. Obama has said Ayers has not been involved with the campaign.
During the debate Wednesday, McCain demanded to know the full extent of Obama’s relationship with Ayers.
McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said the robo calls were warranted because the relationship “raises serious questions about Barack Obama’s judgment and also his candor with the American people about his record.”
But McCain also trails Obama in polls nationally and in several contested states less than three weeks before the election.
Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said the campaign has received calls from people across the country “upset about these negative, despicable ads.”
“Sen. McCain calls Ayers an old, washed-up terrorist. If that’s the case, why is he spending all this money on these nasty, dirty robo calls,” he said.
In 1969, Ayers co-founded the Weather Underground, an anti-Vietnam war group that claimed responsibility for bombing several government buildings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, though not a judge’s home.
Ayers remained a fugitive for years but surrendered in 1980. Charges against him later were dropped because of prosecutorial misconduct. Eventually, he became a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and lives in Obama’s neighborhood in Chicago.
In 1995, Ayers meet-the-candidate session at his home for Obama as he prepared to run for the Illinois Senate. The two also served on the boards of two nonprofit charitable organizations in Chicago. The city named Ayers its “Citizen of the Year” in 1997 for work on one of those boards.
Posted by: lisa | October 19, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
HIS REGIME HAS PROBABLY COVERED HIS A** REALLY WELL, BUT I SO HOPE THE LAWSUIT AGAINST OBAMA,EXPOSING HIM, WON’T BE POSTPONED ON A TECHNICALITY UNTIL AFTER THIS RIDICULOUT ELECTION. IT’S A REALLY DISPICABLE TRICK TO PLAY ON THE VOTERS WHO DON’T KNOW THE FACTS AND THE REAL OBAMA. THEY ARE IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING IF HE GETS ELECTED AND WE BECOME A SOCIALIST NATION.
Posted by: Charles | October 19, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
The only identity Obama has produced is an Hawaiian phony birth certificate that didn’t even have a SEAL ON IT.
If he didn’t have “who know what organizations” backing and if he weren’t black he wouldn’t be running at all. People would laugh at him for thinking he was qualified.
Posted by: lisa | October 19, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
The New York Times will break new ground on the health of the presidential candidates and their running mates in a major expose set to be published in Monday’s print edition.
Lawrence Altman — the veteran Times reporter, George Polk Award winner, and one of the few medical doctors working as a full-time journalist — has spent weeks working with the campaigns and medical professionals on the piece, sources say.
Much of the speculation centers on new questions about the status of John McCain’s cancer raised by the story. The Washington Post reported last week that a growing number of doctors believe that McCain’s melanoma is “more advanced than his physicians concluded and that the chance of recurrence is consequently higher.”
But another peculiar facet of the Times story involves the McCain campaign’s refusal, as of this weekend, to turn over Sarah Palin’s medical information.
Posted by: rhbate | October 19, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
The only identity Obama has produced is an Hawaiian phony birth certificate that didn’t even have a SEAL ON IT.
Posted by: lisa | Oct 19, 2008 8:35:40 PM
_____________________
In your puny mind do you really believe that you have some secret information that could lead to the imprisonment of a presidential candidate, and only you know about it? Why don’t you report this to the authorities immediately? I’m sure they have a medal of some kind for you – IF THEY DON’T STICK YOU IN THE LOONY BIN – where you belong.
Posted by: rhbate | October 19, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
McCain had cancer surgery in February, and didn’t disclose it
So, to clarify AP’s headline “McCain appears cancer free, healthy” – they really meant “this month.”
Nice. From AP:
McCain’s most recent exams show a range of health issues common in aging: He frequently has precancerous skin lesions removed, and in February had an early stage squamous cell carcinoma, an easily cured skin cancer, removed. He had benign colon growths called polyps taken out during a routine colonoscopy in March.
McCain isn’t cancer-free if he had cancer 3 months ago. What a ridiculously sloppy AP headline, and now this will be the story – McCain is cured! (Except that he had cancer as recently as 3 months ago – hey, maybe Pastor Parsley healed him?) Anybody else troubled that candidate McCain was running for the GOP nomination, went for cancer surgery, and didn’t bother telling anyone? What else isn’t he bothering to tell us, and won’t he tell us in the future? If this is McCain’s standard for disclosure about his medical condition, we’d need weekly document dumps of his medical files because McCain clearly has a policy of hiding his true medical condition while running for president.
Posted by: NIA-New Mexico | October 19, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
A friend tells me of a poll done using cell phone calls only (the preferred choice of the college age/young voter) — the results gave Barack Obama a 32 point lead.
Now, I have no idea how exacting or scientific this polling was so I’m not making an unequivocal statement, but figure this result in with the classic polls (done primarily on land lines) and it is interesting…….. very interesting.
Posted by: dassis | October 20, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Born in the U.S.A.?
08/25/2008
By: KEITH PHUCAS
PHILADELPHIA – A Lafayette Hill attorney filed a lawsuit in federal court Thursday challenging Sen. Barack Obama’s claim to United States citizenship. The action seeks to remove the Democratic candidate from the November ballot.
To be eligible to serve as U.S. president, a person must be born in this country. According to Obama’s birth certificate, which his campaign posted on its Internet site in June to quell rumors that he is foreign born, the Illinois senator was born in Hawaii on Aug. 6, 1961.
On Thursday, Philip Berg filed a temporary restraining order in federal court to bar Obama from running for president, claiming the Democratic candidate was actually born in Africa.
“We really don’t believe he was born in Hawaii,” Berg said. “We think he was born in Kenya.”
The presidential candidate’s father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya, according to Obama’s campaign Web site.
Berg’s suit claims the senator’s grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama’s birth in the African country.
Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, grew up in Kansas, and his parents met at the University of Hawaii when Dunham was a student there, according to the Obama campaign.
Eventually, Obama’s father returned to Kenya, and his son grew up in Hawaii with his mother and for a few years in Indonesia after Dunham married an Indonesian man, Lolo Soetoro. Also, Obama lived with his maternal grandparents in Hawaii.
“If he was born in Hawaii, and he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, (Obama) would lose his citizenship,” Berg said.
The Obama campaign has a special section on its Web site, “Fight the Smears,” that debunks the birth certificate story and other reports that have circulated about him during the campaign.
“It’s part of a smear campaign,” said an Obama campaign volunteer who identified herself as Rachel. “There are just so many lies out there.”
The lawsuit claims three “independent” document forensic experts performed extensive tests on the digitally-scanned image of Obama’s “Certificate of Live Birth” posted on the campaign’s site and found the document to be “a forgery.”
Jerome Corsi, author of the book, “The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality,” has also deemed the birth certificate phony, according to The Annenberg Political Fact Check, http://www.FactCheck.org.
The Annenberg Political Fact Check, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, aims to expose deception and confusion in U.S. politics.
Recently, FactCheck.org staffers “touched, examined and photographed” the original birth certificate kept at the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago and concluded the document is genuine.
“The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.,” FactCheck.org staffers concluded.
Sean Smith, Obama’s Pennsylvania communications director, was contacted Friday about the suit but declined comment.
The civil suit filed by Berg will be reviewed by the U.S. Federal Election Commission, according to Patty Hartman, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.
Keith Phucas can be reached at kphucas@timesherald.com or 610-272-2500, ext. 211.
http://www.timesherald.com/site/printerFriendly.cfm?brd=1672&dept_id=33380&newsid=20089295
Posted by: Natasha | October 20, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
John Mccain asks you to serve a cause greater than yourself, to serve country, to put America first……………
Barrack Obama promises you tax cuts, government health care, federal tax money for your schools, to spread the wealth around………….
John Kennedy said “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”
Posted by: tom beebe | October 20, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
Fifteen days and all you’ve got is a citizenship issue. Oh, you’ve got other issues also like blowing your nose and wiping your *** but who cares? Nothing like flogging a dead horse. The other things that you continually bring up (you’ve got nothing else) no one wants to hear about anymore.
How gullible are the MENTALLY CHALLENGED? Seems to be the entire Republican party. If there was any validity to this claim it would have been discovered long ago and more than the WHINERS posting here would have been up in arms.
You truly are showing the class of the Republican party; pathetic dim-witted losers. Mr. Obama has already proven himself to be a citizen to the powers that be as has Mr. McCain . He has no obligation to prove it to all of the M.O.R.O.N.S. posting here. Besides, I haven’t seen Mr. McCain’s birth certificate…He was born in Panama, wasn’t he? I’ve read issues about that also…just saying.
U.S. Constitution – Article 2 Section 1
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Posted by: PasteEater | October 20, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
PasteEater, you should change your name to
ShitEater
Posted by: Pam | October 20, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
pam,
bring it on…
if cutting and pasting is all you’ve got you should probably go and finish the sixth grade….
You must be one of those real intelligent types….second time you’ve posted the exact same thing…I thought I’d give you the same and a little more.
Colin Powell not supporting McCain…ouch, that must have stung, let’s now hear you say that that was racist of him to do
McCain and Palin differ on Gay marriage (McCain wants States involved, Palin wants Federal involved) Palin wants to wear the pants.
Palin came out against the Robocalls yet she has made one.
One hand doesn’t know what the other is doing! Two weeks out and they look like a couple of pathetic lumps….
And, in case you didn’t read one of my last posts to you, here it is again for your enjoyment.
pam,
How long did it take you to come up with that? Is that all you’ve got?
Did you read the article? Probably not. Would love to hear what you have to say about that.
It’s always the same with the Republicans, blame everyone else for the mess we’re in and never accept any of the responsibility.
Hopefully you can come up with something better the next time you post should you choose to do so, then again maybe you can’t.
We’ll just call you
Cee U Next Tuesday
Posted by: PasteEater | October 20, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Police arrest Mich. man for car wash vacuum sex
Sat Oct 18, 7:56 pm ET
THOMAS TOWNSHIP, Mich. – Police say a Michigan man has been arrested after “receiving sexual favors from a vacuum” at a car wash.
The Saginaw News reports the 29-year-old Swan Creek Township man was arrested Thursday in Saginaw County’s Thomas Township, about 90 miles northwest of Detroit.
Police Sgt. Gary Breidinger says a resident called to report suspicious activity at the car wash about 6:45 a.m. An officer approached on foot and caught the man in the act.
The suspect, whose name wasn’t immediately released, is being held in the Saginaw County Jail.
And, what they failed to tell you was that the man is a REPUBLICAN.
Maybe John McCain can use him also like he did Joe the Plumber
Posted by: Hansi | October 20, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
To all Republicans that don’t mind a little reading…(this may be over you head pam)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/10/19/politics/p093616D96.DTL
just curious to read what you think…
AP IMPACT: Mortgage firm arranged stealth campaign
WASHINGTON – Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.
In the cross hairs of the campaign carried out by DCI of Washington were Republican senators and a regulatory overhaul bill sponsored by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. DCI’s chief executive is Doug Goodyear, whom John McCain’s campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September.
Freddie Mac’s payments to DCI began shortly after the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee sent Hagel’s bill to the then GOP-run Senate on July 28, 2005. All GOP members of the committee supported it; all Democrats opposed it.
Posted by: PasteEater | October 20, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Michelle is one ugly ass, angry militant racist gorilla, dontcha think?
ugggghh, go back to Kenya b*tch!
Posted by: MONKEY HOUSE | October 21, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Do the smart thing. Let Obama serve another term in the Senate before you try to take his training wheels off.
Posted by: lil' Barack | October 21, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am