The Bidens & Clintons Come Home to Scranton

Zero-bama is brilliant, indeed.
He has leveled the poor and rich by 50% in just one year, by tanking the stock market nearly 50%. Equality is half way under Zero-bama, before he is even elected.
0bama is directly responsible for the stock market crash because the leadership in the Congress, in supporting this Affirmative Action candidate’s approach of giving voters cash, ignored the correct solution proposed by Hillary Clinton and McCain to target the financial sectors.
Had the leadership of the Congress and Mr. Zero-bama put the country first, and made the correct judgment to use the $300 billion to rescue the financial sectors ONE full year ago, perhaps, JUST PERHAPS, the stock market would have not tanked 50%.
What we know for sure is that Zero-bama has made yet another bad judgment, a completely boneheaded mistake, to give money to individuals, which did nothing to “stimulate” the economy except continued down-slide, and this approach has failed evidenced by tanking the stockmarket by 50%.
Karl Marx would have been proud of His Nothingness for leveling the field of rich and poor by 50%, with the exchange of your retirement accounts 50% less.
Perhaps, after Zero-bama took over the country, it will be a perfect world of “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”, such that you do not need your retirement accounts.

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and don’t forget 9/11, the war in Iraq, WWII and the great depression in the 20′s also!!
The really sad part is that some people actually believe this garbage.

dO, you are an idiot!Both McIdiot And even bigger idiot Palin have been found to have poor judgment over and over! they have both been found guilty of ABUSE OF POWER!!!!! Among other things Mcidiot is still friends with Keating!Best buddies.
They are full of it!
A man who voted 3 times against making it a federal crime if an abortion clinic was Bombed!
What do you call that!
I call it unfit to lead.
If you can’t or won’t represent the diversity and differences of the people in our country you shouldn’t try to represent us!
He is old, refuses technology won’t even learn how to use a computer!
We need someone who will take us into the future.
Obama/Biden

It sounds like a great event (I’d love to see video!) and Bill is right. Barack has the best ideas, best strategy, best vision, best judgment, best temperament, best instincts, and without a doubt, the BEST supporting cast. I have to laugh at the post by d0. Um, how in the world would McCain do anything remotely positive for the economy, or our standing in the world, or the poor or middle class, or the environment, or alternative energy? He says he knows how to do this and that but he’s been in office for 26 years, and much of that time Repubs have been in control of either the admin or the Senate and Congress, or both. So, why oh why hasn’t he shared his know-how with anyone? If you haven’t noticed (and it seems d) hasn’t ), it’s the Republicans who got us into the mess, and yet they want more and more of the same. Talk about people who love hitting their head against brick walls. Of course, then I suppose they’ll be brain damaged enough that no one could ever accuse them of being smart– cuz being smart is rather elitist, and elitists are lefties in that world view, no? Sheesh. To evoke Karl Marx is pretty silly, d-zero. Let’s just deal with the facts and actual policy, not erratic and bizarre accusations from the fringes of right field. I still retain some shreds of respect for McCain due to his resilience and personal courage as a POW and his many years of service, BUT his ideology and his ideas are wrong and extremely outdated, and his temperament is erratic.

Obamas fault the gas prices are high
Obamas fault the stock market crashing
Obamas fault Sara Palin is a lying fraud
Obamas fault the Gop are not happy with palin
Obamas fault the sky is blue
Obamas fault it may rain
You people need to get a life! seriously
for a person you claim to have no experience he sure is responsible for alot GET OVER IT HATERS THIS AMERICA IS STANDING UP!

Best ideas for ripping the American public off — yeah he’s the one alright! Morons voting for a man who has done nothing, will do nothing and the only change will be the amount he manages to steal from us, the people who work for a living!

– No matter how many times you say it, it does not make it true –
Yawn.. so true.. come back when you have something new to share.

Palen shot all the dinasaurs.
Jeff, what exactly do you do in the windy city? Earn a living at what?

Yeah and a republican had to clean up after NIXON!!!!!!!
Democrats say they talk about change but they go back to the past about bush. HAHAH!

lightseaker, I read “allegations” of voter registration fraud and “invited” to help train staff. That’s not proof or conviction. That’s how rumor gets spread.

Joe Biden gave a great speech today. I liked his line “I don’t need a lesson on patriotism from Sarah Palin, I’ve had it up to here” Great speech. Moving.
http://www.congratstothewinners.com/2008/10/joe-biden-speech.html

I must say I find this all hard to believe…That democrats are so so very desperate to get a dem in the white house that they will overlook all the underlying questions that Obama just sweeps under the rug…Let me give you all facts…Obama is friends with bill Ayers who is a known domestic terrorist..Was involved with Tony Rezco a convicted Felon which also helped Obama do some shady dealing to get his big fancy house in Hyde Park who just happens to be in the same neighborhood as Ayers Rezco Wright who was Obamas Pastor for 20 years who preached words of hate and louis Farrakhan who and I quote called Obama the Messiah…Have ya ever noticed that the only time Obama denounces any one is when it could hurt his political career??? Are you democrats that desperate to have control ? I am neither a Rep. Or Dem. I vote the best choice.And clearly McCain in this case is the best choice. You see if Obama can show such poor judgement in choosing his friends such as Ayers, Wright, Rezco who would he choose to be friends with if he were President??? Obama says he thought Ayers was rehabilated (sp) is he gonna think Bin Laden and the Taliban are too?? And I am sick of the democrats calling The Race Card anytime someone questions Obama there is nothing racial about asking questions and wanting REAL ANSWERS>not half truths as Obama is famous for telling. And the latest shady thing in his background is ACORN …Voter fraud…at first Obama camp said he had nothing to do with Acorn then as Media learned He was once a lawyer for Acorn Trained for Acorn and his Campaign gave them 800,000… all he does is lie it is sick and you all believe it…ask a chicago person when he was running for office there he promised lower taxes THEY GOT HIGHER TAXES .Think about it all then make your choice .I just hope you all wake up befor it is too late. I will take McCains record anyday at least when the Keating thing happened he was TRUTHFUL and by the way was cleared of any wrong doing by a Democrat.Obama is not truthful and to me that says alot….

“It took a Democratic president to clean up after the last president Bush, it’s going to take a Democratic president to clean up after the next one.” Not only well said but so true, so true. Time for the Republicans to turn off the kool-aid fountain they’re swimming in. As a former resident of Florida… I know you have to be very careful when swimming with Barricuda…sadly for you guys, oops you got bit by your dream ticket VP… Sarah. Shame though cause she’s alot cuter than Cheney.

Actually, Clinton does not want barrack HUSSEN Ob(S)ama win. She will not have a chance to candidate again

GOD BLESS AMERICA.

someone wrote “Wow, so now Obama has a confessed adulterer…” this is an attack? A defence? Geez… McCain is a documented and virtually unrepentant adulterer. He tagged Cindy while he was still married to a disabled woman. That’s low as the pond slime on a frog’s belly.

Speaking of Acorn Gosh I would think Hillary would be ticked off knowing that Obamas Campaign gave money to Acorn thats probably the only reason he is the Dem nominee he had to buy the vote and denounce his pastor of 20 years
who preached hate …But Obama didn’t know what he was preaching ..Please what a LAME EXCUSE I guess Obama was wearing ear plugs

I think Hillary did not want to be a Vice President. It would not surprise me if she will be a cabinet member. I also think she would make a first rate SENATE MAJORITY LEADER. There will always be alot of options for Hillary.

READY99 go learn how to frigging speak you illiterate. My taxes pay for you to come online cause it sure ain’t your salary you punk. I guess commercials and Obama’s sound bites are your scope of vocabulary. Pardon the pun…switch from this page to a lexicon you might learn something Scum.

Let’s just list the troopergate investigation to no where next to the road to no where which Sarah Palin built with the money Palin received for that bridge to no where of which Sarah told congress thanks but no thanks.
Still Governor Sarah Palin kept and built the road to no where which no one uses on the Island because the road goes no where.

Hillary loves America and will do what’s necessary to help Obama win. You dolts who read these obscure websites written by ???, funded by ??? then quote their BS as if it was the WORD OF GOD!!!!!! Well, God bless your tiny little minds.

DEATH with Sadam Hussen
DEATH with Osama Binladin
————Barrack HUSEN Ob(S)ama

google MY FELLOW PRISONERS
McCain’s Alzheimer’s moment on national tv

Hey dO- Open your eyes widely – look what’s happening! President Clinton left Whitehouse with surpluses and look at where you are now – debt is over 3 trillion – China will gulp you in 2 decades if you cannot send a democrat to the Whitehouse. Look at Democrats – they all support one leader and line up behind that leader. The leader that Democrats selected is addressing the issues that people have unlike the opponen’t themes of refermition of characters.
The republicans are so good at denying people- At the end of each debate the first thing they did was to get hold of the media and to declare victory, but in reality they were far from victory. FOX news is the only broadcasting channel hugely favour those republicans, e.g. Sean Hannity and Martha McCullum both have anger similar to McCain and Palin, all over their bodies against Obama campaign. Its too late to play nonsence as the general public knows who has the strategy to rise from ashes of bushes – take it with a pinch of salt! Amy

Obama stole the primary from Hillary with ACORN voter fraud.

I am very proud of Hillary, barack better do the right thing.
Posted by: rachel | Oct 12, 2008 9:13:50 PM
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I am very proud of Hillary too.
Obama already blew his chance to do the right thing by not selecting Hillary as VP – even though she got more votes than any cnadidiate in the history of presidential primaries.
Maybe Obama is afraid of someone who is stronger and smarter than him?

From ACORN’s grow little oaks. Very little.

jeff in the windy city–you sure you pay taxes-low-life!You another idiot that McSAME got fool. Unless you make 90,000 a year sucker {shut up}.I pay my fair share and also help people in need,you sorry a– h–e

Hey “Tammy”
Everything out of your mouth is a sound bite you picked up from a pundit. Geez, don’t you any thoughts of your own? At least you should give footnotes so you’re not accused of plagiarism.

geevill, If you listened to Senator Clinton’s speach at the rally you would have heard her say Barack Obama’s name many many times. The thing about elephants is they have big heads and tiny tiny brains. Donkey’s kick ass!
Go Obama!

So according to another news source Pelosi and Reid are trying to BUY the election BO now:
“After consulting with Barack Obama, Democratic leaders are likely to call Congress back to work after the election in hopes of passing legislation that would include extended jobless benefits, money for food stamps and possibly a tax rebate, officials said Saturday. The bill’s total cost could reach $150 billion, these officials said.”

It’s almost time kids — the clock is ticking! be in front of your TV sets for the Horrorthon, oh sorry Obamathon!!! Don’t you remember the big giveaway at 9!!! Don’t miss it and don’t forget to wear your masks, the clock is ticking it’s almost time!
I guess Barack and Axelrod have been watching too much Halloween III!
NEVER KNOW WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH OBAMA, AFTER ALL YOU KNOW NUTHING ABOUT HIM!!!!
Hurry up to Oct 29th, Oct 29th, Silver shamrock!
hurry up to Oct 29th, Oct 29th, Silver shamrock!
So sad!!! Sheep to the slaughter!!!

Truc Nguyen: You might want to take a Xanax to treat your anxiety and panic disorder; you sound a little too worked up “my friend”. Obama/Biden ’08.

Obamabots again snagged blantantly smearing Palin. You guys really should be ashamed of yourselves.
NYT Pulls Misleading Account of Palin Puck Dropping Ceremony
By Terry Trippany (Bio | Archive)
October 12, 2008 – 15:15 ET
The New York Times took the unusual step of quickly editing and replacing a hysterical post by hockey blogger Lynn Zinser that covered Sarah Palin’s appearance at the Philadelphia Flyers home opener where she was invited to drop a ceremonial puck. In her original post Zinser exaggerated the boos by the crowd, attacked Flyers owner Ed Snider for inviting Palin to the event and appears to have fabricated the discomfort felt by NHL players Scott Gomez and Mike Richards.
That account has since been changed. Somewhere along the line Zinser gutted the original article and replaced it with a new one that came a bit closer to reality. However the repost didn’t occur before the original article shot across the internet where it was eventually picked up by Greg Mitchell at Editor & Publisher and flogged as a “political scoop”.

Truc N.
We here at ABC are alarmed at some of your posts, including attacks/death threats against Sen. Obama, and we can trace your computer information. If you continue to post such extreme views on this site, we will have to take security action against you.

The Republicans put the CON in conservative. Why are they really terrified of Obama? Because he is an expert in constitutional law…you know, the very documents these a-holes have been egregiously abusing, a tradition Palin celebrates continuing. Run MFs Run!!! Run like that chicken s*** Hastert who wouldn’t play if he couldn’t be head bully anymore.

Obama scams money by growing the government (or foundations) and then siphoning off money for his communist/crooked/marxist/muslim friends…he has done this all along as a member of the Woods Foundation, the Anneberg Foundation, as a Senator and he sure is to continue his scams as a president. Why does anyone trust this slime.

The latest RealClearPolitics (RCP) Average has Obama leading McCain by 13.8% in PA. It’s looking more and more like those 21 electoral votes will help elect a Democratic president to clean up the mess left by 8 years of “W”. Obama/Biden ’08!

maybe if people paid attention to their 401k’s and properly invested according to time, age, and beta they could’ve mediated some of their losses. i know some people who’ve lost only about 7% of their 401k’s. maybe people should of invested in less aggressive portfolios, we all knew something had been coming for a year, here’s to being greedy like the banks. we knew 6 months ago if you had a fund that invested in pass through mortgages you’d be having problems when the SH!t hit the fan.

McCain has proven he has bad judgment by choosing Palin. I have been online reading the Anchorage Daily News. I was amazed at how many people in Alaska really dislike her and think she is unqualified to be VP and scary to think of her as president. I thought all the dislike of Palin was down here in the lower 48. Not so. She won’t be re-elected governor in Alaska. Back in 2000, I was on the internet telling people how awful Bush was. People on the internet would say “you aren’t really from Texas; you are lying.” Well, I wasn’t lying. Many Texans knew Bush would be a terrible president. We need to listen to these Alaska people when they tell us what a ruthless unqualified hillbilly Palin is. Texas is about to take Bush back. I know all of you will be happy. Let’s also send Palin back to Alaska and let them deal with her. I have a feeling she’ll never get elected again to anything.

Kellogg, you are sooooo insecure and ignorant. Beside a pathetic racist.
“We are choosing hope over fear. We’re choosing unity over division, and sending a powerful message that change is coming to America” OBAMA Jan.2008

One thing to note. Mr. Soros whose interview is on this website states flat out that we have been spending 6 to 8 percent more per year than we have for the past 25 years. Anyone who has been around any time knows all of us, especially the governments;state and federal, have overspent. So, Hillary that means your husband also overspent and might have even accelerated it with his choices to head Freddie mac.

Even if John McCain wins the presidency he’s the most liberal Republican there is. It would be like a Democrat winning. A smart Republican should vote for conservativism and Bob Barr is the most conservative.

I wonder if Biden used MapQuest to find his way back to Scranton?
Always gives me warm fuzzies to see these rich people so down with the average people. That is, of course, rich Democrats-rich Republicans are out of touch-obviously.

mary, you may be right. There are a lot of us conservative Republicans that can’t stand McCain, but he is a Republican. Even Ann Coulture said he was just a RINO, and she wouldn’t vote for him. Even though he’s all we can choose from, I still have to vote Republican even though Bob Barr is a former Republican. Who knows I may change my vote for him while I’m in the dreaded booth.

Hey Jeff in the windy city. McCain flew Fighter jets so he’s not technically savvy enough for you MACAROON.What has Obama flown?

If you will notice the Biden’s the Clinton’s prefer McCain over Obama, each one has slipped up and said so more than once.
The media is truely afraid Obama has lost – and has made up his increasing lead and how well he is doing. Meanwhile Obama himself has said we have a long way to go, gee people guess what more lies from the media.
All people can ever pick on about McCain is that he is iradict, well if you make up bits and pieces of media clips – ya I suppose so. Meanwhile we have Obama saying yo, gonna, ya man, that is a much bigger problem, when there isn’t a teleprompter or a script to learn he sounds like a teen. And for picking on Palin, she is not running for president, and she has not done anything illegal.
Obama is greed, look at the money he has, where is this coming from if the economy is so poor? When has a presidental candidate purchased a minute let alone a half hour of primetime on 2 of the 3 major tv channels. This just shows how out of touch Obama is on the economy, rather than stop taking money and encouraging people to invest, buy homes, cars, and other goods, give me more, and more we can make a difference. It is sickening how anyone can listen to anything he has to say.
Look at all the economists that agree McCain’s plan is far better than Obama – for the bailout, for taxes, for America. Listen to experts not to the media hype!
If anyone is promting fear it is Obama look what his comments do to the stock market.
If you want change from the last 8 years start with Congress and McCain, Obama and current members of Congress are more of the same – more war in Packistan, more economic troubles. The president does not affect these issues alone!

Stop, talk about rich, McCain is the 11th richest congressman there is! Obama is nowhere near that!

Why is Biden checking our Hillary’s arm pit?

Stop. I don’t think all the economist agree that McCain’s version is better maybe on fox news but hey people who watch that are hannity f-ers. Ask Warren Buffet who has a better economic recovery plan, not too mention how much cash he personally infused to help the economy, more than any body on the right, oh and its PAKISTAN no c in there buddy, was that your grandma who was on t.v. that told mccain that obama is an arab

Uncle Moe: As much damage that Bush has done to our country, the Democrats will be blaming him for many, many years.

Funny how 3 Senators, Biden, Clinton, Obama, who have been in the Senate through this whole mess take no responsibility for it and say it was all the other parties fault. So passing the buck seems to be all the Democrats know. I hoping the electorate has not been suckered by them since the Dems have been in power the last 2 years and have done nothing. When McCain tried to regulate Fannnie, Dodd and Franks, said Fannie was a sound company. What a laugh.

And by the way it was during his (Clinton) administration that deregulation of banking took place. Here is Clintons Comment from an interview: On the Glass-Steagall thing, like I said, if you could demonstrate to me that it was a mistake, I”d be glad to look at the evidence. But I can”t blame [the Republicans]. This wasn”t something they forced me into. I really believed that given the level of oversight of banks and their ability to have more patient capital, if you made it possible for [commercial banks] to go into the investment banking business as Continental European investment banks could always do, that it might give us a more stable source of long-term investment. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/con
tent/08_40/b4102000409948.htm

Are you conveinently having amnesia when it comes to the fact that John McCain cheated on his disabled wife with a drug addicted stripper and then later married her or are you just that ignorant about your candidate?Independent fact check groups have shown that These “ties” you are refering to are “a stretch” of the truth. In contrast, McCain was reprimanded for his role in the Keating 5.Oh and let’s not forget Sarah Palin’s strong moral fiber and impeccable past…abuse of power is oh so ethical!!! And yes, it is relevant since odds are she would be president if they are elected. Check your facts before you talk of ethics and morality because the GOP ticket is full of scandals

And after that, only the Counter-Revolutionaries who dare speak against “Change”. The first act will be silecncing talk radio. The Counter-Revolutionaries can’t be allowed to control the tiniest of the Media after all.

first off the Tech bubble was the personal investor’s fault not to do their due diligence in overlook basic fundamentalist principles in investing. If you invested in a fund and did not do your research and only looked current and past prices of the security, not any ratio and business dirction of that company well, you were having your cake and eating too. and as for the deregulation:
who introduced those bills that repealled the regulation acts of 1980 and how was it voted in the senates and the house???

Uncle Moe: I sure hope they don’t silence FOX News or Rush Limbaugh, because I need to have something to laugh about!!

dO? Duh!: To paraphrase Jessia Lang: “The day you come to take my gun, you better bring more that a piece of paper !”

Obamas lead in the polls is a deception driven by the lilliputins in the MSM. A majority of Americans both democrats and republicians, and some reluctently will vote McCain in as our next president.Because most Americans are not sure about Obama and his former associates.

Mary- do you know that Democrats halted any increased regulation of Fannie that mcCain proposed? It was Franks and Dodd. Frnaks said Fannie was a sound company. Do you know that the Dems don’t let out of the committees any bills proposed by Republicans. So yes the filibuster may be the only way the Republican have to control the mess the Dems have gotten us into.

George, your not waitng for Joe 6 pack to run for president?

Mark, Palin’s link to AIP has been disproven. Unlike Obama’s to Ayers.

Now the question is whether the REPUBLICANS can hold on to their slim hope to filibuster the next four years away.
Many decent people are offended by the use of racism and terror-baiting by the Rove insiders designing the last days of the Bush regime.
Palin’s denials today after the report was published with a clear statement that she broke a statute is incredible. She offers nothing about credentials of decency or honor. Her innocence of one charge of illegal firing does not give her the right to claim she is innocent of all charges, when the legislature, and the Republican majority made it clear that she broke the ethical standards that are in the code of law of Alaska. She is without honor, just lies and denials. And soon there is another lawsuit, by Republicans, for her misuse of a personal email system to do state business to avoid oversight by the Freedom of Information act, and public requests for information about her office. Craven lies and criminal behaviors. This woman does not deserve to be in office, anywhere. I pray that the Alaskan Republicans find the courage to stand up to Bush and McCain and make it clear that the party has some honor.

And by the way it was during his (Clinton) administration that deregulation of banking took place.
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Actually the SEC deregulation of five mega banks occured in 2004!
They were allowed to start lending at a ratio of $40 to $1 withholdings instead of the $12 to $1 that had been the standard since the Great Depression.
Guess which five mega-banks just collapsed?
Yep, the exact ones that were deregulated with the Republican Congress and the Republican President in charge.
Keep watching FOX if you want. But read the Economist if you actually want to learn something.

Let’s sthink about this: And how many inters did Bush rape ?

yes and mccain was in favor of the deregulation of those banks, let business be business.. lets look back and warren harding calvin coolidge and herbert hoover see why these laws were there in the first place, its amazing repubs still have the same view of government almost 90 years later

Uncle Moe, why would I take your gun when I have my own.
I have been brainwashed by the liberals… but at least I have a brain. A clean one.

They’ll do ANYTHING to help keep the Democratics elected. Even Biden has changed his tune to suit the situation.
Sarah Palin challenged Sen. Barack Obama’s preparedness to be president, and used Sen. Joe Biden’s own words against him.
As Biden and Palin debated records on Iraq during the St. Louis debate, Palin noted, “You also said that Barack Obama was not ready to be commander in chief.”
Indeed Biden did say that. In an Aug. 19, 2007, debate among Democratic hopefuls, moderator ABC’s George Stephanopoulos pressed Biden whether he stood by a recent quote that Obama was “not ready” to be president.
Biden said he stood by it.
It’s worth noting that in May 2008, BIDEN CHANGED HIS TUNE!!!!!

ALL THE WHITE PRESIDENTS WE HAD,THEY
DIDN’T CHANGE THAT MUCH THE DIRECTION
OF THE COUNTRY….WHAT MAKES YOU
BELIEVE OBAMA CAN DO IT
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Do I really have to explain to you how this statement sounds?
Yah, you know it.

On the 20 year old Keating affair, McCain was recommended to be dropped from the Ethics proceedings because he did nothing wrong. But the Democratic controlled Ethic panel wanted to keep him on the hook because it would look better to have a Republican accused of wrongdoing because the other accused were 4 DEMOCRATS..”In the case of Senator McCain, there is very substantial evidence that he thought he had an understanding with Senator DeConcini’s office that certain matters would not be gone into at the meeting with (bank board) Chairman (Ed) Gray,”"Moreover, there is substantial evidence that, as a result of Senator McCain’s refusal to do certain things, he had a fallout with Mr. Keating.”But the investigation found that he was the least culpable, along with Glenn. McCain attended the meetings but did nothing afterward to stop Lincoln’s death spiral.n the end, McCain received only a mild rebuke from the Ethics Committee for exercising “poor judgment” for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating. Still, he felt tarred by the affair.”The appearance of it was wrong,” McCain said. “It’s a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do.”McCain noted that Bennett, the independent counsel, recommended that McCain and Glenn be dropped from the investigation.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/mccain/articles/2007/03/01/20070301mccainbio-chapter5.htmlMcCains wife Carol:Carol, his wife, had been in a disfiguring traffic accident in 1969, a development that McCain first heard about from an officer’s offhand remark.It took months of operations, physical therapy and convalescence before Carol could walk without crutches.”You might be upset when you see me,” Carol warned him in their first post-release telephone conversation.McCain reassured her: “Well, you know, I don’t look so good myself. It’s fine.”McCain praised Carol’s “determined spirit” and refusal to succumb to “despair and self-pity.”McCain was eager to get home to Carol and the children. His daughter Sidney didn’t remember him.He had no idea what Sidney or her older brothers now looked like. He had gotten little word on their growth while in the prison camp.By St. Patrick’s Day 1973 he was back in Florida.In February 1980, McCain petitioned a Florida court to dissolve his marriage to Carol, calling the union “irretrievably broken.”McCain offers his own post-mortem on his failed marriage. He “had not shown the same determination to rebuild (his) personal life” as he had to excel in his naval career.”Sound marriages can be hard to recover after great time and distance have separated a husband and wife. We are different people when we reunite,” McCain wrote. “But my marriage’s collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine.”Carol, who remains on good terms with her former husband, generally has avoided reporters interested in hearing her side of the story.In the divorce settlement, McCain gave Carol the rights to houses in Florida and Virginia and agreed to provide insurance or pay for additional treatment she was expected to require.Carol went her separate way, finding work as a personal aide to Nancy Reagan.

he can’t blame the republicans for strong arming him into passing the bill,
but you proved my point even more, that was the begining,
phil graham and the majority repub congress introduced legislation that made it alot eaiser for enron to get away with their BS, i wonder if graham’s wife was on the board and i also wonder if Mccain voted in favor of that bill

McCain helped the economy, when he took from Fannie and Freddie the campaign contribution of $168,000.00 from their Lobbyists, CEO’s, Executive officers and spent it on his campaign. Now what was that Reform Legislation John McCain is so proud of.
Of course the Working middle class employees gave Obama $16,000. for their campaign contribution.
Yet according to the Federal Election Commission and Fact Check, McCain’s statement about Obama with Fannie and Freddie is lie. Obama did NOT except any money from those companies at all.

Hey jschmidt .. you do know that Clinton was unable to veto that bill even if he wanted to, don’t you?

lets think- and what happenned when McCain proposed more regulation of Fannie? Franks and Dodd stopped him Franks said Fannie was a sound company. The DEMS refuse to admit they are knee deep in repsonsibility for the sub prime crisis. It is hypocritical for them to ignore this. Dodd head of the banking committee gets a sweetheart mortgage from Countrywide and doesn;t know how subprime happened. And you want these idiots in charge?

The Keating Five never bombed anyone.

Concerned- well from his interview with Maria Bartiromo, he felt repealing Glass Seagal was a good idea. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_40/b4102000409948.htm
MARIA BARTIROMO
Mr. President, in 1999 you signed a bill essentially rolling back Glass-Steagall and deregulating banking. In light of what has gone on, do you regret that decision?
FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON
No, because it wasn’t a complete deregulation at all. We still have heavy regulations and insurance on bank deposits, requirements on banks for capital and for disclosure. I thought at the time that it might lead to more stable investments and a reduced pressure on Wall Street to produce quarterly profits that were always bigger than the previous quarter. But I have really thought about this a lot. I don’t see that signing that bill had anything to do with the current crisis. Indeed, one of the things that has helped stabilize the current situation as much as it has is the purchase of Merrill Lynch (MER) by Bank of America (BAC), which was much smoother than it would have been if I hadn’t signed that bill.
Phil Gramm, who was then the head of the Senate Banking Committee and until recently a close economic adviser of Senator McCain, was a fierce proponent of banking deregulation. Did he sell you a bill of goods?
Not on this bill I don’t think he did. You know, Phil Gramm and I disagreed on a lot of things, but he can’t possibly be wrong about everything. On the Glass-Steagall thing, like I said, if you could demonstrate to me that it was a mistake, I’d be glad to look at the evidence. But I can’t blame [the Republicans]. This wasn’t something they forced me into. I really believed that given the level of oversight of banks and their ability to have more patient capital, if you made it possible for [commercial banks] to go into the investment banking business as Continental European investment banks could always do, that it might give us a more stable source of long-term investment.

Wow liberals looking into Obamas money from Freddie mac. Like the blind describing cloud formations. It can’t be done.

With so much hate in McCain/Palin and the republicans, I really scared that OBAMA may not live to see the Nov.4 election.
I just thought of this while reading these hateful mails from republicans operatives.
Let me know, if my fear is unfounded.

The idea that John McCain has inherently bad judgment use to be more of a coincidence than anything else. But over the course of these last 3-4 weeks, I would say, without question, that John McCain has proven to be lacking in the judgment department. His inability to process, correctly, concerns me. His VP pick is one of many examples. His erratic behavior. He grandstands to score political points at any cost while insisting he puts country first. The lists go on and on. I used to mock him. But I have run out of bad things to say. Maybe the POW experience is catching up with him.
A concern citizen

I did not know which idiot to quote
Ronald Reagan is friend to Walter Annenbergg.
Annenberg is a friend of Ayewrs he hired him! SO annenberg is a terrorist
thus Ronald Reagan is a friend to a Terrorist!

Kevin: You should know by now ALL, and I mean ALL of the worlds problems were caused by George Bush ALONE, PERSONALLY ! The democrats are as pure as the driven snow. Just ask them.

and where are the former republican presidents? both bush’s and the entire current republican administration is remarkably quiet and not ONE of them are campaigning for McCain? why not? of course they support him, but Mccain has to distance himself from his OWN PARTY because they are a disaster… face it, mccain and palin are TOAST! (and i love rubbing it in your faces!)

I’m in the buckle of the bible belt surrounded by republicans, Free Will Baptists, and pick-up trucks with guns in the back window and confederate flag bumper stickers. I keep guns and a big dog for my protection from these conservetive “Christians” but, by golly, I’m gonna put an Obama sign in my yard and lay in wait for the first one to take a shot at it. I may be a liberal but I’m a good shot, too.

i mean 50 seats in the senate

Deregulation was to able banks to not all be the same. Many banks were cruel and all paid low interest on accounts. They had no reason to offer better programs to get your money deposited. Deregulation was to give you the workers the ability to get more for your investment. The below prime loans were the work of liberals trying to help those who had no means to pay back the loans . Since liberals are into helping programs and not into the money making programs. they cause the country to fall. We need balance between the two. Environmentalists have stomped a hole in our economy and forcing companies to stop or leave. They support unions who draw more than then companies can produce. So we are here because we have no balance. Being a socialist nation is not the answer. Sorros is working for our down fall. His moveon.org is evil.

banks were cruel wah.. take your money out of the bank and invest with an investment house if you didnt like your rate.

– so America can remember how we got here and what we are fighting for- FREEDOM! –
Then why exactly are we in Iraq for again?
– He want’s universal healthcare –
Nope, he wants to create an insurance company to provide insurance similar to what the members of Congress have. Due to it’s size, it will be able to negotiate better prices, be optional in participation and portable across jobs. In addition, it will save employers providing health insurance coverage an estimated $140 billion a year, which will stimulate the economy, and the increased number of insured patients (estimated 47% of currently uninsured compared to 7% under McCains plan at peak) will further stimulate the economy.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126

Clinton signed for the deregulation.
Obama as the number three person who received the most money from Freddie and Fannie.
Bush and McCain and a few others tried to regulate it a few years back. But a Dem controlled Congress blocked it.
Both parties are responsable, work together do not place blame it makes us all look bad.

Claim: McCain championed legislation that would have prevented the current financal meltdown
Fact: False/Misleading
In his September 19th speach in Arlington, VA., Sen. McCain states:
“Two years ago, I called for reform of this corruption at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congress did nothing. Senator Obama did nothing, and actually profited from this system of abuse and scandal”
What he is referring to is a Senate bill (S.190[109th] Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005) which was originally authored by Sen. Charles Hagel and co-sponsored by Sen. Sununu and Sen. Dole. It was not until after a 2006 Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight Report to Congress outlining problems with the two organizations that Sen. McCain decided to add his name to the bill as a co-sponsor. The bill never made it out of committee (Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs), which was at the time controlled by a Republican majority and chaired by Republican Senator Richard Shelby. The statement about Congress and Sen. Obama doing nothing is true, but misleading, since there was nothing that they could have done until the bill came to the floor of the Senate, which it never did.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-190

Thumbs up to the Clintons for doing the right thing. I still don’t see Romney, Huckabee, Paul or others campaigning for McCain. This speaks volumes, to me.

Earthisnotflat: Don’t you ever wonder why Jimmy Carter is never invited to the democratic convertions.

** Bush and McCain and a few others tried
** to regulate it a few years back. But a
** Dem controlled Congress blocked it.
A ‘few years back’, Republicans controlled the congress, not democrats..

The officials, with organizations like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Business Roundtable and the National Federation of Independent Business, predicted in recent interviews that the McCain plan, which eliminates the exclusion of health benefits from income taxes, would accelerate the erosion of employer-sponsored health insurance and do little to reduce the number of uninsured from 45 million…
…”To some in the business community, this is very discomforting,” said R. Bruce Josten, executive vice president for government affairs at the Chamber of Commerce. ‘The private marketplace, in my opinion, is ill prepared today with an infrastructure for an individual-based health insurance system.”

Hey Bob, the re education camp forgot to mention during your brain washing that Bush was in the Texas air national guard and flew jets. Again what has the technically savvy Obama flown?

– The people with company paid healthcare will not receive the tax credit. –
Correct, under McCain, they will be taxed on it for the first time in history, in an effort to shift people to private coverage. And resulting in more americans losing coverage.

yeah james that same Bush got moved from the texas air national guard thanx to daddy to a wing of the bama air national guard that was reserved for guard memebrs to get thier final hours of flight time, so his pilot rear wouldnt go to NAM While their he ran a election campaign into the ground and was taken off of it by then time election day came around

I see republicans being blamed for the meltdown and this is not true. Do a little research and you will discover that Dodd and Frank right in the middle of it. Bush, McCain and other republicans attempted to regulate Fannie and Freddie and were blocked by Dodd and Frank. Barack Obama recieved more from Fannie and Freddie than any one other than Dodd and he was only there 3 years. I can see he learned the ropes quickly. Since we are on the subject of ropes, why did Michelle get a big raise right after Barack channled money to the non-profit hospital where she worked? The term of dealing in the truth was meant to be sarcastic.

i was also being facetious… i am not denying dodd and frank’s role in this but it is so much bigger than fannie and freddie, the deregulation of banks and the insurance porblems arising from those mortgages. lets be real the last time we let banks do business this way we ended in food lines. both parties are to blame get your head of your red rear i acknowledged both are repsonsible, but you don’t

Let’s see, I seem to remember that when Clinton ran for President the Republican racists said the same thing. The Democrats will raise your taxes. Yet how is it then after 2 terms in office when Clinton left office the country had a surplus. Not only was there a surplus, but there was job growth. People could afford to buy a home, take vacations, save money. After 2 terms of Bush, we are in the worst economic mess this country has seen since the depression. All Republicans spread is hatred and divisiveness. Mc Cain stood by for an entire week and said nothing at his rallies all the while people in the audience spewed hatred and racism. Only when the press and others pointed out how much hate there was at his gatherings did he only speak up. Again, and Cindy McCain has the gall to say Obama is running the dirtiest campaign she has seen. What a hypocrite. White people take offense when you tell them they are racist. Blacks should not fool themselves. There are white Democrats, both liberal and conservative that will go and cast their vote for McCain, all the while in public saying they will vote for Obama. We all know that this is about race. They can spin it all they want. God help this nation should America decide to put a Republican in the white house for another 4 years.

Bill Clinton may have cheated on Hillary,but he loves her.You can see it in his eyes.And he is very proud of her.But while running for a high political position….it’s dog eat dog.Then when all dust settles…they all get together and gang up on the other party.

there was a reason a “radical” FDR had banks regulated in the first place

Bush is a fiscal socialist who along with the democrats and republicans have ruined this nation it will never be the same I don’t care who gets elected they won’t fix it. Get ready to become part of the Europeon union in the near future and when the man of perdition is revealed he will fix everything.

Duncan Clinton was not that liberal and in fact other than social issues he was pretty conservative. Why do you think the far left supported Obama over Hillary? Clinton implemented the welfare reform Reagan always talked about; Bill had a pro-business record in Arkansas before he won the Presidency; Clinton supported NAFTA and he didn’t just sign off on the most sweeping deregulation of the banking industry in 1999 but he also supported it and today still defends it. Clinton balanced the budget but what Dems forget is that Clinton was no far left liberal. In fact I would say Hillary is considerably more liberal then Bill. Bush has been a total disaster, on that we agree- but spend, spend, spend while giving tax cuts and expanding entitlement programs like he did Medicare is not at all representative of a true conservative.

concerned american How do you explain that it was the Repubs who wanted more regulatory oversight on Fannie and Freddie and that it was the Dems that resisted such? How do you explain Bill Clinton’s signing off on, supporting it and today still defending it- the deregulation of the banking industry in 1999?

Do?Duh! Sounds to me like you’d be better off living here in California. Expect for the gun ownership thing.

If the Republicans wanted more oversight over the FM’s, they were in control of Congress at the time. McCain continues to point to S.190 as his trying to regulate the FM’s, even though he did not add his name as a co-sponsor until after a 2006 oversight report which showed problems with the FM’s. And yet that bill was killed in a Republican controlled committee and chaired by Republican Senator Shelby.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-190

As we all know the nation’s president is a Republican, and was a close ally of McCain’s until McCain decided to turn his back on our current president. Republican President Bush backed the stimulus check because when push came to shove, even Bush realized, at last, that the economy is consumer-driven. Many years of supply-side economics has left us where we are today. Supply-side economics has a history of failure because no matter how much excessive compensation you give to the CEOs of the world, they can’t keep the stock market going without prosperous consumers. As we all know, many Republicans including McCain have pushed for DEregulation of the financial markets, Deregulation was the cornerstone of Reagan economics and has been a cornerstone of the Republican party since then. The deregulation bill now cited as a facilitator of the meltdown was passed 10 years ago, ten years ago when Congress was controlled by Republicans. Also, Republican Bush has been at the head of federal regulation for eight years and I haven’t heard him raising heck about it till the crisis speech with Bernacke and Paulson, so where was the urgency before that. According to the New York Times, the regulation bill McCain now tries to use against the Democrats was originally written and considered in 2005 when Republicans controlled Congress, and McCain was not part of the writing of that bill. McCain did sign on as a supporter of the bill much later in 2006. . Nominally, when a bill does not come-up for consideration in Congress, it is because the controlling party, the Republicans then, did not call it up for a vote. The bill was not voted on, and although McCain claims to be a Maverick, he did not make the effort required overcome Republican resistance and get the bill voted on in the Republican Congress. Clearly the Republicans did not like the bill enough to get it voted on. It was the Republicans not the Democrats that stalled and failed to consider that bill in 2005 and 2006. According to the New York Times, the Democrats opposed the bill not because of the regulation involved, but because of other Republican add-ons to the bill. The Republicans have a long history of supporting deregulation, and it is a fact that the Republicans, as we all know, have a history of trying to support their agenda of deregulation with the slogan “get the government off your back”. So its doubtful to try to blame the Democrats for the prevalence of a Republican agenda, deregulation. McCain says even today that Ronald Regan is one of his heroes.

concerned american I agree, I don’t believe Palin is ready to be running any show on a national level right now. Given her short time on the national scene though I don’t doubt for one second her political skills and instincts, intelligence and self-confidence. She just doesn’t have any business next to the oval office today though. As far as Troopergate, my understanding is she broke no laws, was within her rights as Governor to dismiss him and that it appears the issue of her brother-in-law was a factor but not the sole factor in his dismissal. And I should be worried about this? The kind of ethical issues I’m worried about today are the fact that Obama, McCain and Biden all have lined their pockets with money from Wall Street financial institutions implicated in this economic crisis ; that Dodd,Shumer,Dole and all others on the banking and finance committees are in bed with Wall Street;
Frank’s relationship (and potential conflict of interest) with Fannie and Freddie; the fact that our politicians are more inclined to represent their corporate contributors (and you can see evidence of such in all three of these candidates records) then the people they are supposed to represent. Palin’s inappropriate pressuring of a staff member to dismiss (and he has stated he was never directly asked to dismiss anyone and the brother in law was never dismissed) a man who works in law enforcement who admittedly tasered his own child, supposedly drank on the job and threatened members of the Palin family is irrelevent to me in comparison to the influence special interests have had on our candidates, our political system and in the making of this financial crisis.

I would like to know, how everything that has happened over the last few months, falls back on the republican party when the democrats run the house?
I am ashamed of the american people for NOT reading,seeing, and flat out getting all of the information on both parties, before you make a sound decision. I am glad we went after saddam,and hopefully very shortly after bin ladin. We need to keep fighting for everything this country stands for. The freedom of democracy,and the right to the freedom of choice,given to us by our forefathers and everyone that has fought for us in the past,makes this the greatest country in the world to live in.
Before you vote on November 4th, you should read everything you can on both parties in this race. Check out Obamas past, it seems to me that he has a pretty shaky one at that. With all of the associations Barack has had with Ayers,and other radicals. However, put Baracks associations on the side and consider his ability to make decisions on the war efforts,and effectively resolve issues in Iraq and Afganistan.
Rid the world of terrorists and the threat to our country. Bring home all of our brave soldiers in a timely manner,but not with threats in place.
Go ahead and look at the financial crisis; who is it that has us in this mess? Democrats. Why is the stock market going into the toilet? Democrats.
Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. Where is all of the money that they had? and Why hasn’t anyone been charged for this? Democrats. Like I say people check everything out before you vote. Inexperience and dangerous people in office don’t mix!!!

As for Palin, per the report, she was found to have abused her powers and in violation of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act, Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a).
As for the ‘lined their pockets’ issue, I think that you will find that McCain is the one who supports big business and the wealthy, in both his tax proposal and health plan, while Obama is the opposite, so that tells me a great deal.
In addition, if you go look at what legislation each has sponsored in this session of congress.. the majority of what McCain has supported is all Military related with very little that would directly impact Americans. Obama on the other hand is across the board with issues directly facing Americans, such as equal rights, housing, better health care, better drug testing and reporting, environment, increased fuel economy, alternative energy, increased voter participation in government, etc..
McCain claims to support those issues, but Obama actually does in his legislation.

Voter1010 What the heck are you talking about? There has never been any love between McCain and Bush and that’s pretty well established. Spend, spend, spend with tax cuts and increases in entitlement programs as Bush did with Medicare is not a true conservative approach. Clinton was more conservative on the economy then Bush was. The stimulus check, and now we may see another one, is a gimmick no different then the gas tax piece both Clinton and McCain supported this past Spring which everyone called a gimmick.
Someone will pay for those stimulus checks we get (and none of us will certainly refuse them) down the road in taxes. The repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act and the most sweeping deregulation of the banking industry came under Clinton’s watch- he signed, supported and still defends it today. Joe Biden voted for it in 1999 as it would be safe to assume McCain did also. In the past decade while McCain has said himself he supports deregulation he also has a history of asking for more oversight and regulation in varied industries examples being the tobacco industry, auto, cable, defense, was involved in writing the Patient’s Bill of Rights with Kennedy and Edwards, worked on campaign reform with the most liberal Senator Feingold in Congress and so on. The fact that McCain has proven himself to be capable of biting the hand that contributes to him is one of the reasons Obama has gotten more money from Wall Street then McCain and that in the primaries his opponents then also pulled in more Wall Street money. McCain came on board in 2005 with asking for more regulatary oversight of Fannie and Freddie and the Bush administration during hearings in 2003 also were pushing for more oversight of those agencies. McCain’s statement in 2005 is record as is the hearing in 2003 and the statements opposing such oversight from Frank and Maxine Waters among others is public record. Obama wrote a letter in 2007, after he threw his hat in the Presidential ring , about Fannie and Freddie but was silent prior. There is no such thing as “control” by any party in Congress for the most part even they are in the majority . If there was Lieberman would have been bounced out by now but the Dems (while they supposedly “control” the Senate) need him to caucus. It was also the Dems who decorated the 1999 bill like a Xmas tree. May I remind you that Obama stood on a podium in PA and told the audience that he wanted to bring us back to the foreign policy traditions of Reagan and Bush Sr. Obama has also expressed his admiration for Reagan (not necessarily his policies) as a politician and Clinton made a point of pointing this out in the primaries. in fact Obama said more positive things about Reagan then he did Clinton (Bill) during the Democratic primaries. Unlike some on these blogs, I don’t see one party responsible for the mess we are in but rather both parties and both parties should be accountable.

Voter1010 McCain has fundamentally supported deregulation but also Bill CLinton did and Joe Biden in 1999. Let’s not forget that. The deregulation of the banking industry in 1999 had bi-partisan support.

Paul,
It’s funny how Republicans will just blindly find a way to blame everything on the Democrats. The Democrats have been in control of the Congress for a short period of time, while the Republicans have been in control of our country for nearly the last forty years. Not to mention that the economy lags significantly behind what happens in the political world, which means it’s very easy to understand how we blame this mess on the deregulatory nature of the Republican party.
Also, I wish I could agree with you when you say that the United States fights for Democracy. We only fight for Democracy when it’s in our “National Interest”. Otherwise, we would have help Benazir Bhutto fight for democracy rather than implicitly give Musharaf (a tyrant…our terror-fighting tyrant) the red light on getting rid of her. That’s just one example–of which many exist–of when we pick and choose when we fight for democracy.
In the last eight years, we haven’t fought for democracy or stood for freedom…we’ve fought for and stood for our National Interests. What a shame.
If we elect McCain, We’ll get “Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran,” and next stop Baghdad, etc. We don’t need that; we need someone who will reach out to the rest of the world, win the battle of hearts and minds, and repair our good standing. That’s what makes America so strong, not dropping bombs. As we’ve all seen, dropping bombs doesn’t work that well when you’re all alone.

hey NIun
I’m not sure you know but Nixon was a Republican. And a very bad one at that!

concerned american You really need to do your homework on McCain. There are many issues that Obama supports such as universal health care and social issues that I too support. McCain hasn’t been a typical Repub though and has been more liberal on some issues such as campaign reform (which is one of the number one reasons the far right hates him), immigration, climate change and he’s had no hesitation going after special interests
(even if they’ve contributed to him) if he feels it’s the right thing to do. McCain has voted 90% with his party in the past couple years but Obama has voted 97% with his party and if you look at McCain longer history in the Senate and overall record his percentage is lower then the 90%. You can’t argue Obama is more inclined to buck up against his party when he’s holding a 97% vs. McCain’s 90%. McCain does have more rights to claiming the reformist label but having said that I will be the first to admit that McCain in the past couple weeks has disappointed in his selection of Palin and his support of the bailout bill as is. The McCain of past wouldv’e put his first choice, Lieberman, on and wouldv’e not supported this particular bailout bill and would have recommended it go back to the drawing board and come up with something better. He has every right to claim some maverick status based on past record (even Obama concedes on that) and while I don’t doubt his capacity to do such in the White House , these past couple weeks have certainly been a disappointment.

alpaig52- You are right.Mcain in the past couple of weeks has been a disappointment by all means.It is not the real Maverick people in this country know.He is bullied by the egoist crap politicians in gop .It is time for republicans to lost this election and they should learn a lesson that smears and attacks cannot win them for ever.It worked once and we are paying the price for it now.GOP should be freed from Karl Rove politics and poisonous propaganda by cut loose radio talk host shows on fox tv and else where.My vote not this time for republicans.

Sub-prime mortgages (and the meltdown) were made by private businesses. The sub-prime and financial meltdown is a product of freedom to write any mortgages the banks wanted to write, and the absence of government intervention in that. What deregulation did was allow business to do what they wanted to do … make big bucks on sup-prime mortgages. McCain supporters try to blame Obama, Clinton, the government, or whoever they can to cover for the fact that business people took advantage of the Republican influence on the government, (deregulation) and did whatever they wanted to do. It is strange that McCain supporters want to blame the government, Obama, or whoever, for giving banks and other businesses the freedom to loan their money stupidly. It’s like business people are asking, “how responsible could the government be if they let a bunch of kooks like us run our mortgage businesses into the ground, and then they allowed us mortgage bankers to run Freddie, Fannie, the credit markets, the stock market, and the whole country into the ground”. McCain supporters try to connect deregulation (which led to the financial meltdown) with Marxism … and that’s laughable because Marxism is 100% the opposite of deregulation. Contrary to the claims of McCain supporters the stock market is proudly and 100% capitalistic, much to the dismay of McCain supporters who apparently consider market fluctuations to be Marxist. It is a fact that the god-awful ideology of Marxism provides that government controls everything … the complete opposite of the deregulation … Does the McCain campaign now so confused that they confuse Marxism with deregulation? McCain now makes the dicey claim that he supported re-regulation in 2005… does that make McCain a Marxist? It is a fact that one of McCain’s key senior advisers, Henry Kissinger, was instrumental in establishing diplomatic and trade relations with Red China. Kissinger … key friend of the Marxist regime in Red China is to be found in McCain’s camp.

dO….I pity you. Sorrrrrryyyyyy!!!!

Voter1010 You still haven’t explained Bill Clinton’s support of the deregulation of the banking industry nor Joe Bidens nor the fact it was a bi-partisan bill . You still haven’t explained the documented resistance from the Dems on putting any regulatory oversight on Fannie and Freddie between 2003-2005. I agree with you that the Repubs, and I hate Phil Gramm, deserve part of the blame but I won’t let the Dems off the hook like you are more then willing to do. If you want and expect change then you should demand and expect accountability from both parties and not let anyone- not anyone- off the hook just because they happen to be in the party you support.
That’s not how you get change.

– Does’nt anyone rember Obama’s dissing Scranton as people clinging to God and Guns ? He’s a fraud. –
Here is the whole quote:
“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them,” Obama said. “And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 13, 2008 1:20:40 AM
the statement made by concerned American that Obama is a fraud should be studied more. in that quote from the Senator, he was talking about how each administration has failed the small towns, where jobs are scarce from them. it is no wonder that they are bitter because they feel left out. like there is no one who has their backs. that’s what Obama was talking about. not the fact that he feels that the small towns are just plain bitter, but the situation in which they are in makes them that way. that is the change he wants to make. to cover the small towns so that they are not feeling stifled.

– The sub-prime and financial meltdown is a product of freedom to write any mortgages the banks wanted to write, and the absence of government intervention in that –
No, bank were always free to write any loans they wanted.. however it would have been foolish for them to write bad loans that they would have to carry on their books. It wasn’t until deregulation gave them a way to write bad loans, package them up and sell to investors that the fun began.

depblkman – I wasn’t the one who said he was a fraud, I was correcting the person who did and providing the full context of the statement.

depblkman-Believe it or not I am STeve but my comment is under concerned american. Sorry man.

You sounds very reasonable. I agree your views and I am sure you will decide sooner or late who you are gonna vote for.I lost patience with all these crap talks in the past few weeks and I am very positive Mcain is not going to change his strategy because if you watch todays remarks on fox by many gop conservative, they all blame Mcain for not being aggressive in attacks.I dont know what more of attack they need and already some crazy people are talking about killing people.I admire Mcain for denouncing terrorist overtones in the rally .but Palin the alaskan reformed was the one who incited it first in the rally and she hasnt condemned it yet.I have made up my mind whom to vote not because of MCAIN because of Palin.She is too dangerous in spitting out things from her mouth.She is more like a Sean Hannity in women costume.

swing voter I hear ya. If I have to hear Hannity say “unrepentent terrorist”
one more time I think I’ll scream. He’s like a broken record. The hard part about McCain is that even Feingold, one of the most liberal Senators, has said that while he supports Obama he doesn’t fear a McCain Presidency because he knows McCain is actually an Independent. I see McCain as an Independent but he opted to not leave the Republican party. Having vote predominantly Dem in my life I expect McCain to take more liberal positions and that’s just unrealistic because he’s a Repub. I don’t fear either a McCain or Obama Presidency in that I think McCain is more liberal then many think and Obama is more conservative then what many think. I am disgusted with the influence of special interests on both parties and am tempted to vote Nader though. Palin, I would have no problem voting for her as Governor (we survived Ventura) but she’s not ready for the VP position. I wouldv’e preferred Lieberman or Ridge but I recognize that the far right already hates McCain and trusts him less then the liberals do so that it wouldv’e been political suicide for him to make those selections.

Hillary spend the ENTIRE Democratic primary saying “Obama isn’t ready to lead”…and then there was Joe Biden who stood by his statement that “Obama isn’t ready to be President” — Now suddenly and magically– Are we really supposed to forget Hillary and Biden’s Primary campaign statements and embrace Obama?!!? Hey- I believed what Hillary and Biden told me in the primary, so I’m voting — McCain/Palin.

The last 8 years weren’t enough! We want MORE! 8 more years! Vote Republican! 8 more years!

Lynn Forester de Rothschild is so right when she said. Watch these two trends..the stock market and Obama’s wide margin. The stock market won’t go up because investors are scared of a possible Obama win. It’s amazing how people can’t see an obvious handwriting on the wall!

If Obama wins, he should consider Hillary for Secretary of State. She could do as good a job, if not better, than Rice. Bill Clinton could also be appointed to the Cabinet or a high profile Ambassador post, like to the UN. Noticed that all message boards, blogs, have rants some based on fact while others are just anger, hatred, perhaps racism. The world, allies and enemies, reads these message boards, blogs, not just American citizens. We Americans should not forget the eyes of the world are upon us, closely, with today’s technology.

Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis
Commentators say that’s what triggered the stock market meltdown and the freeze on credit. They’ve specifically targeted the mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which the federal government seized on Sept. 6, contending that lending to poor and minority Americans caused Fannie’s and Freddie’s financial problems.
Federal housing data reveal that the charges aren’t true, and that the private sector, not the government or government-backed companies, was behind the soaring subprime lending at the core of the crisis.
Subprime lending offered high-cost loans to the weakest borrowers during the housing boom that lasted from 2001 to 2007. Subprime lending was at its height vrom 2004 to 2006.
Federal Reserve Board data show that:
_ More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.
_ Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year.
_ Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that’s being lambasted by conservative critics.
The “turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007,” the President’s Working Group on Financial Markets reported Friday.
Conservative critics claim that the Clinton administration pushed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make home ownership more available to riskier borrowers with little concern for their ability to pay the mortgages.
“I don’t remember a clarion call that said Fannie and Freddie are a disaster. Loaning to minorities and risky folks is a disaster,” said Neil Cavuto of Fox News.
Fannie, the Federal National Mortgage Association, and Freddie, the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corp., don’t lend money, to minorities or anyone else, however. They purchase loans from the private lenders who actually underwrite the loans.
It’s a process called securitization, and by passing on the loans, banks have more capital on hand so they can lend even more.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53802.html
The GOP is lying to you once again. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae did not cause this financial meltdown.

Right, the Dems can fix it. How stupid do Obama and Hillary think the Americans are. 6 months ago Hillary said McCain is a better candidate than Obama, who only gave 1 speech at the DNC. Let’s let nancy Pelosi fix the economy, as Obama just follows her act.

Now, Sen. Clinton said Sen. Obama is …right candidate to the PA rural residents. What did she say to them about Sen. Obama in the primary?

Alex – Hillary said those things about Obama because she, like him and Joe Biden, think those Americans are dumb pawns clinging to their guns and religion.

Hillary has options here, she doesn’t have to be at the beck and call of Obama and DNC after the way they treated her. It ticks me off royally to see her kowtowing to them. She needs to tell them where to put it and become and Independent. Poor Hillary my butt…I’m ashamed of her current actions.

OBAMA IS LEADING! In the polls, in history, in new voter registration, in fundraising, in campaign management, by every metric possible! Conventional wisdom has always said that you can determine how a president will lead by observing how he leads his campaign and the decision he made in picking his vice presidential nominee! Obama/Biden 08, real leadership for a new generation! What a STELLAR campaign being run by an incredible young, American leader! Go OBAMA/BIDEN

Hillary has options here, she doesn’t have to be at the beck and call of Obama and DNC after the way they treated her. It ticks me off royally to see her kowtowing to them. She needs to tell them where to put it and become and Independent. Poor Hillary my butt…I’m ashamed of her current actions.
Posted by: samhiguchi | Oct 13, 2008 7:52:33 AM
Maybe she sees that McCain and Palin are no good for this country right now.I commend her for sticking to her principles and working to get her opponent in the primaries elected.
Obviously she has gotten over the loss, why can’t some of you?

Wel,Well,Well….. SHAME on all you people that have so many ignorant and hostle remarks when you are the people that don’t even vote. yet you are the biggest screamers on how to run this country well get real ,hop on your space ship and go back to what ever planet you came from oh, and by the way take McCain and Palin with you. I’m sure they would do a better job om MARS.

yes its said that republicans never do anything but drown this country!!!Dem bail us out everytime. we need 2 just keep republicans out the white house! so help us god vote barack/biden

I AM AMAZED IN MY TIME TOO SEE A NEWS CHANNEL LIKE ABC BECOME SO PRO DEM,ONLY SEEING ONE SIDE TELLING YOU WHO TOO VOTE FOR IN THERE SNEAKY WAY,AND THEN THERE IS THE SHOW THE VIEW I AM SO ASHAME TOO SEE WHAT ABC HAS BECOME.I GUESS MOST OF THESE WOMAN ARE [BIMBO,S]ON THE VIEW WAKE UP GIRLS O I FORGOT YOU KNOW WHO SIGNS. YOUR PAY CHECKS.HERE IN THE USA I THOUGHT THE NEWS WAS SUPPOSE TOO BE INTHE MEDDLE NOT TAKEN SIDES,YOUR VIEW SHORE SHOWED ME WHO TOO VOTE FOR JUST LIKE MANY OTHERS I’VE TALKED TOO WHO WERE UNDECIDED MCCAIN ALL THE WAY

ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE America at it’s best? At it’s worse!
At a time of desperate need, instead, determined greed. The unfair work practices on the part of the primary and top tier contractors of the southern Texas FEMA relief program is not only deplorable, but borderline criminal. Those of us employed blue tarping distressed homes are being manipulated through deceit and exaggerated compensation packages offered up by said contractors. After working for three separate entities, the fiasco being orchestrated by Crown is widespread (Beaumont, Vidor, Galveston, League City, Texas City). During recruitment, promises of twelve hundred dollars plus/week/man is made based on square footage production. This is the picture painted; strip away their misleading brushstrokes and your left with an empty canvass and their empty words.
A twelve hour workday is required (7am-7pm) with no acknowledgement of the mandated prevailing wage per the Bacon-Davis Act. Furthermore, the R.O.E. (Right of Entry) work orders handed out each day do not provide sufficient square footage to earn the kind of money discussed. As a matter of fact, there has been occasion where, as a crew, we haven’t covered the cost of our gas for that day.
We’ve all, in good faith, invested time and money to become a part of this disaster relief effort. The apparent corruption being played out by the “good old boys” must be stopped and the wrongs, righted. This matter needs a champion to proceed to the next level where this program is organized and maintained as a honest commitment to the community at large and it’s economic recovery.
Respectfully,
Randall Barkley
American Diversified Disaster Assessment
Dallas, TX
(805) 861-4540