The Note: GOP Faces Electoral Disaster
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports in Monday’s Note:
Just on the off-chance that Barack Obama isn’t right where John McCain wants him (in front of 100,000 people in Denver?) — and since we already know that Sarah Palin isn’t always where McCain wants her to be . . .
What’s at stake now for McCain and the GOP has morphed into something much larger than a presidential campaign.
On the ballot in eight days’ time is the fate of a political party — in an election that will align government for at least the next two critical years, if not considerably more.
We all know better now that to start talking “permanence,” but the question for McCain and party leaders is less about how to win but how to avoid a wipeout that will take more than an election cycle or two to climb back from.
As Obama starts his turn to a closing argument — his speech in Canton, Ohio Monday hits on themes of “new politics” he first sounded back in Springfield last winter — Team McCain is left arguing over whose fault the closing is.
Read the rest of The Note — and get all the latest on the 2008 election, Congress, the White House and the wide world of politics every day — from Rick Klein by bookmarking this link.
It’s not just a running mate who’s on her own (which worked so well for Dan Quayle) . . . or angry money folks . . . or GOPers saving reputations if they can’t their party . . . or new clothes making another new story (but is a $50,000 spending spree really that much better?).
It’s a party on the precipice of historic, across-the-board defeat — and this is when it starts getting ugly.
“John McCain is losing in a way that threatens to take the entire Republican Party down with him,” David Frum writes in the Sunday Washington Post. “In these last days before the vote, Republicans need to face some strategic realities. Our resources are limited, and our message is failing. We cannot fight on all fronts. We are cannibalizing races that we must win and probably can win in order to help a national campaign that is almost certainly lost. In these final 10 days, our goal should be: senators first.”
“The Obama campaign is marching toward the biggest nonincumbent Democratic presidential victory since 1932, and the Democratic Party is fighting its way toward its best overall presidential and Congressional year since 1964,” Bill Kristol writes in his New York Times column. “Situation not-so-excellent. Time for McCain to attack — or, rather, finally to make his case.”
Kristol has an expensive (and impractical) wish-list, and: “McCain has a chance to close this election in a big and positive way. He has a chance to get voters to rise above the distractions and to set aside the petty aspects of the campaign. He has a chance to remind them why they have admired him, and perhaps to persuade them to vote for him on Nov. 4.”
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ABC News’ Hope Ditto contributed to this report.
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Rick is this a joke?
Posted by: geevill | October 27, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
John McCain failed when he picked Sarah Palin..no when Sarah started talking. I’m not a supporter of either. But Obama has a better team of thinkers…and attacks don’t work anymore. They should have throught through the vetting process for VP a little more…! Mitt is smiling and giggling right about now…
Posted by: Mike | October 27, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
As Joe biden continues to say We need a FDR Type “New deal” While it has been proven FDR’S new deal kept us in the depression longer
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
A vote for barack obama is a vote for corruption like we have never seen in the white house. A barack obama administration will bring not only redistribution of wealth, but global redistribution of wealth. This country’s deficit will never be paid. But hey, we can be buddies with terrorists and rogue nations.
Posted by: me | October 27, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
I’ve heard and see first hand how state and local races have been cannibalized to send money to “St. John the Baptist of BS.” The ONLY people who have helped the canidates, get this… Are the RON PAUL voulnteers that the McCain campaign systematically ignored, ridiculed, insulted, and castigated… simply because they wanted a REPUBLICAN nominated for the Repubilcan party!!! Now John the maniac! is happy to see the whole DAMN party go in the toliet to prop up his already imploded camapaign of “Terror”… It didn’t have to be this way… Why oh WHY didn’t the lunatic who can’t tell the same story to the public or his base (namely the press) do what he threatened to do in ’00 and become the Democrat he truly IS! Why oh why didn’t he run as Kerry’s VP, since he and Kerry are SO alike and chummy. The party would be in much better shape had John stuck to his guns and done what he said he’d do. But hey, once you sellout your principles, what more is it to sellout your party!!!
Posted by: hmn | October 27, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
It is simply: Do you want Warren Buffet as cheif economic advisor or do you want deregulation Graham. The choice is clear. Obama-Biden 08
Posted by: Eric | October 27, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Mike – I will amen that. I do not know what idiot decided that Sarah Palin would get the Hilleries to his side but who ever it was should be shot at dawn.
Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | October 27, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Time for McCain to attack? LOL, he has done nothing but throw out smear after smear after smear. What a joke. Time for the Republicans to give up on the GOP and start looking to form a new party. Maybe the new party can have ideas and policies instead of just being a platform of hate, lies and smears.
Posted by: blakec | October 27, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
“me: A vote for barack obama is a vote for corruption like we have never seen in the white house.”
After literally years to make a factual, reality-based case, all the McCain camp is left with is naked fear mongering. Sad. There isn’t a single good thing they can say about their candidates record now that he’s spent the last 8 years as one of President Bush’s chief enabler, selling his soul to the ‘base,’ who loves Sarah Palin and thinks President Bush has America on the right track, just for the nomination.
Posted by: jhw539 | October 27, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
This is also about character and judgment. McCain has not only gone down the path of destruction when he picked Palin, but also showed that he cannot be trusted to lead a country because so far, he has not even been able to run a capable and credible campaign! He does not provide a steady hand, have no ideas or visions to lead us. He has been flip-flopping, trying to find some traction instead of having carefully thought out his ideas and plans for the long stretch. How could one expect such to be a leader? How could we expect him to lead us out of this morass? We must reject this very poor example of a so-called “leader”, which McCain is obviously – NOT!!
Posted by: Karen | October 27, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
The way I see it, Sarah Palin has a head full of air. She is overly confident, she fails to see that there are a lot of things she has no grasp or knowledge of.
Posted by: susie | October 27, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
geevill -
The joke has already been played out on America – sending 4,200 of our soldiers to their deaths for a lie.
This election is no joke. We’re taking the country back in force.
Posted by: clifton | October 27, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Rick is this a joke?
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Posted by: geevill | Oct 27, 2008 9:09:46 AM
geevill
hahahahaha it is real.
That was hilarious.
NEWSFLASH EVERYONE:
GEEVILLE IS NOW AWAKENING FROM DELUSION TO REALITY
Posted by: Omentum | October 27, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
McCain is going to throw everything and everyone under the bus to get elected. As one o f his colleagues recently remarked Chaffee I believe, “John McCain is all about self, in bright flashing neon lights!”
Posted by: Bob | October 27, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
susie: “She is overly confident, she fails to see that there are a lot of things she has no grasp or knowledge of.”
I honestly see her as a clone of President Bush – a case of political acumen (Bush may have been handed the Presidency, but he earned the Texas statehouse) with no managerial capability.
Based on her record – not irrelevant fluff like the clothes or her church – I think she would be as big a disaster as President Bush. I dug deeper into my wallet for Obama after getting to know her wallet as I can no longer say with a straight face that at least both options on Nov 4 aren’t President-Bush bad. I know some conservatives for whom her selection has led them to debate two options: Not voting, or writing in Ron Paul to register a protest vote.
Posted by: jhw539 | October 27, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
susie, sounds more like obama to me.
Posted by: me | October 27, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Just wondering? Was there a “band” that opened for Obama that brought out a crowd of 100,000 people? Everytime Obama draws a huge crowd, the Rethugs say it’s because some obscure band opened for him and they the crowed was actually were there for the free music. Well, who was it this time? What? No band, you say? Can it be 100,000 people turned out just to see Obama? But McCain has him just where he wants him, so no problem!
Posted by: geecee | October 27, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
I am a Dem and angry at my own party for the recent financial disater with Freddie, Fannie, and ACORN. Here is another issue I am mad about:
Barack Obama’s Strategy of Manufactured Crisis: First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Cloward and Frances Piven, the Cloward-Piven Strategy seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse. Promoted by Obama’s Marxist mentor and radical community organizer Saul Alinsky. Read about Obama’s strategy.
http://www. obamaunveiled. com
Posted by: Not-A-Citizen-Obama | October 27, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
If Palin is the future of the GOP, I just have one thing to say
Obama 2012
Posted by: Omentum | October 27, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
the coming landslide was predicted in the 06 vote.. what part of that anti-Bush anger didn’t the media and conservatives understand?
Posted by: Gus | October 27, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
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Posted by: Omentum | October 27, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
It saddens me to see that if Obama wins it is only because people Believe that The republicans caused this financial mess
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
McCain was the only GOP candidate that could have had a chance. But rather than appealing to the middle ground Dems and Pubs, he decided to appeal to the fringe right wing radicals.
His pick of Palin was the nail in the coffin. Sure, the “base” was motivated, but the GOP base is shrinking. He needed the middle. His choice alienated us and gave the election to Obama.
Posted by: Straight Talking Maverick | October 27, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
I am a Dem and angry at my own party for the recent financial disater with Freddie, Fannie, and ACORN. Here is another issue I am mad about:
Barack Obama’s Strategy of Manufactured Crisis: First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Cloward and Frances Piven, the Cloward-Piven Strategy seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse. Promoted by Obama’s Marxist mentor and radical community organizer Saul Alinsky. Read about Obama’s strategy.
http://www. obamaunveiled. com
Posted by: Not-A-Citizen-Obama | October 27, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Phil Gramm, McCain’s good old economic advisor slid in the last minute deregulation. From “Make Believe Maverick”:
Indeed, if the current financial crisis has a villain, it is Phil Gramm, who remains close to McCain. As chair of the Senate Banking Committee in the late 1990s, Gramm ushered in — with McCain’s fervent support — a massive wave of deregulation for insurance companies and brokerage houses and banks, the aftershocks of which are just now being felt in Wall Street’s catastrophic collapse.
Posted by: Bob | October 27, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
$700,000,000. Obama has raised by whatever means. Is he buying the white house? Fake columns fake planes, fake, fake, fake, fake,
Posted by: me | October 27, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
McCain started losing the middle when he kowtowed to Jerry Fallwell…Palin just sealed the deal.
Posted by: Bob | October 27, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
What will Roick say when he wakes up to an Obama loss on November 5?
Undecideds = people not admitting they won’t vote for Obama
Posted by: geevill | October 27, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Hawaii SEALED the birth certificate.
Posted by: me | October 27, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
bob, fallwell not ok, wright is ok????
Posted by: me | October 27, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Omentum, I think reality is starting to set in on geevil. I predict a transition on this website of GOP backers…It will slowly turn from, McCain is going to win, to why we are going to suffer because Obama won, to oh well, Palin in 2012…All that will trickle in over the next week.
Nov 5th we’ll all be singing, “CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES COME ON!!!” that’s a little music from Obama’s rallies…
Tomorrow night, Obama, Harbor Park in Norfolk, VA…Virginia is in the bag, ride with us or get rolled over.
O and Joe ’08; its on my bumper sticker there…
Posted by: PoliticsAsUsual | October 27, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
I sincerely hope that this will be the last time the Republicans sell out to the Evangelical Christian, holy-than-though, so-called Moral Majority.
There is no place in American politics for religion. Anyone who wants to practice religion is free to go to the church, sinagogue or mosque of their choice.
Worship however you want, just keep your religion out of my politics and don’t try to tell me how to live.
Posted by: Paul New man | October 27, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
I love Governor Sarah Palin. She has tru accomplishments. She has a history, records, she is a true person.
Obama is a blank slate, except for the terrorists he associates with.
Hawaii has SEALED his birth certificate.
Posted by: me | October 27, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
well reddog
its not totally their fault if that is of any comfort to you.
its just that there are a myriad of other issues including the financial freefall that caused this massive political shift.
looks whose at the wheel gwb. all election season long Obama was handcuffing McCain to Bush. If I were the McCain campaign, I would have allowed Bush to campaign for me and admit his faults and endorse McCain as a “agent” of change.
Just Monday morning quarterbacking I know but it would have beeen worth a shot.
I think McCain just confirmed how horrible Bush was by steering clear from him.
McCain is not a good leader. Mavericks don’t lead. They go it alone. NOT what we need.
Posted by: Omentum | October 27, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Avg contribution per donor: $86. The American electorate as a special interest group!!
Posted by: Bob | October 27, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
The Democrats are worried about a woman
s wardrobe. The market is voting with their feet and walking away from American stocks and financial institutions.
Barack wins. America loses.
May having be as good as wanting.
Posted by: len | October 27, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
ahhh the sweet smell of complete republican defeat/fear first thing in the morning…nothing better!!!
run for cover republican low brow scumbags ,love to watch you scurry around like the little insects you really are.
Posted by: bah | October 27, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
geevil,
It is over! Wake up and smell the coffin. We are taking our country back from people with lesser levels of intelligence
Posted by: Roland | October 27, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
PoliticsAsUsual
Oh yeah. Go get you party shoes for Tuesday Nite.
It appears the GOP is already shooting their own right now. Such a lovely scene. I am from Northern Va. Obama was here last week . IT WAS GREAT. on a bad note Palin is here today. She is holding her rally next to all the outlets. She should be able to buy some nice clothes there.
Posted by: Omentum | October 27, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Boy all the folks that get thier jollies spreading hate are really going to be bored soon. Hopefully we can move on now to trying to solve the problems.
Posted by: parrothead | October 27, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Yup, James Garner is the only “Real Maverick” and the Republicam parts has do do’d in their own nest. I have never seen the country in the mess it’s in today and I’ve been around over 64 years. They are worried about the Dems taking over both the White House and the Congress, but it wasn’t too many years ago that he Repubs had both and totally screwed things up.
Posted by: mike | October 27, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
len,
Palin says she’s going to clean up Washington… It seems like she should start by cleaning up Alaska.
First we saw the Stevens scandal, then we learned that Sarah the hockey mom has been using state funds to fly her children on gambits all around America – well before she was chosen as VP candidate by Mc’snotsane. That, to the tune of about $21,000 in plane tickets and luxury hotels.
Add to that the improper use of office by her hubby to run a personal vendetta and the $150,000 wardrobe just makes the whole “cleaning up Washington” concept a joke.
Give us a break! She’s the ultimate expert at playing the insider game to her own personal benefit. She’s not VP quality, let alone potential POTUS material.
Posted by: Paul New man | October 27, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
len
I am not concerned about what Palin wears.
But as a taxpayer of whom provided McCain with 80 million bucks for campaigning. Some of my hard earned money went to Palin’s wardrobe.
She is a millionaire. Tell her to buy her own clothes. She should have gotten Cindy to fix her up. I hear Cindy’s dress she wore at the convention cost 250,000 bucks.
Just one of many reasons why McCain is not a good leader. He does not think ahead. He is not Presidential at all.
Posted by: Omentum | October 27, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
8 days to go the race will be over for McCain.
Palin own state of Alaska newspaper endorse Obama.
The fat lady will sing in eight days.
Maybe, if John McCain was 30 years younger he might have had a chance but father time and events wasn’t on is side.
Posted by: Lookup | October 27, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
8 days to go the race will be over for McCain.
Palin’s own state of Alaska newspaper endorse Obama.
The fat lady will sing in eight days.
Maybe, if John McCain was 30 years younger he might have had a chance but father time and events wasn’t on is side.
Posted by: Lookup | October 27, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
“Kenya has very good trade relationship with Iran and Obama’s first priority is to have high level discussions in the Kenyan capital. The first meeting will be chaired by Raila Odinga. The US is said to be represented in such a meeting by the US Ambassador in Nairobi. Iran is one of those to attend the meeting, but as an observer so that Obama will not be accused by his opponents for dramatically changing US Foreign policy.”
To work with the Kenyans, the Obama administration will have Colin Powell, the former US Secretary for State as Obama’s Special envoy to Africa and the Middle East.
The first meeting will take place in central Nairobi in the newly Libyan purchased Hotel, that has now changed the name from Kenya Regency Hotel to a new name proposed by the new owners., Libya.”
Posted by: Nat Turder | October 27, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
His mom was a citizen therefore that makes him a citizen…why is this still an issue…is everyone so starved for conspiracy theories that this has become such a big deal…that this man has systematically lied cheated and decieved since he was born to be president. Really…how sad it must be to be in this group and know next week Barack Obama will be elected.
All I have to say is I am looking forward to the end of the commercials, and to my tax break as a member of the 98% that will receive one under Sen. Obama’s plan
Obama in 08.
Posted by: SwiftyPA | October 27, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
me,
Fallwell is NOT ok. As for Rev Wright, I have to have more than one statement from one sermon to form a true opinion. This despite the fact you’d rather argue with single sentences most of which taken out of context. It’s the only way wingnuts can debate.
McCain is the biggest flip-flopper ever to run for office and Fallwell is just one example of many. The list goes on and on.
Posted by: Bob | October 27, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Omentum,
She is not a Millionaire.As a matter of fact of all the canidates she is the only one who is not!!!
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Just watching John McCain give his economic speech today:
He looks angry.
He is ranting about rules and punishment.
He wants stock prices to rise.
He wants to buy “deserving mortgages”
He looks more angry.
This is war.
He will not have a government run health care plan.
He has not smiled.
His lower teeth are showing.
It’s over.
Wow, was he angry.
Posted by: doug | October 27, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
geevil: “Rick is this a joke?”
What, are you surprised that the ‘liburl media’ has a story promoting your candidate’s last gasp attack? John McCain’s strongest chance at this point is to raise the spector of a Democratic Congress with a Democratic president.
The American people have seen the disaster of a Republican President with a Republican Congress and Big Lie tactics aren’t working when people know how they’re doing now and know which party has guided them to this point. It is very much in the GOP’s interest to try to spin their disaster as actually being caused by the Congress and President being the same party, as opposed to a disaster caused by the specific party’s/Republican’s complete sellout of conservative ideals.
This article is free advertising for John McCain and the Republican party. If you have such a deeply entrenched persecution complex that you can not see that, then it is clear how you can still believe the delusion of a liberal media (or even more absurd in the face of fact, the delusion of a fiscally responsible Republican party).
Posted by: jhw539 | October 27, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
There are a lot of silly posts here. Weird pseudo-names like “me”, “geevil”, “not-a-citizen-Obama”, and so on.
We are in our last week- 8 days and most people will have voted by end of Friday. It would help to have a real dialogue versus reading about paranoia and “ism” fearmongering and hatemongering. If this is all that can be said, poor Senator McCain is in a worse position than the polls show. All of these people sound like they are off the deep end and willfully ignorant. If these people truely want to convince even a few people, they need to improve their arguments. Right now all of those named posts are just rantings of the poorly informed and those who don’t use their wet wear.
Posted by: Lucy2008 | October 27, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
time will tell
Posted by: Fran | October 27, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
time will tell
Posted by: Fran | October 27, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
me,
Fallwell is NOT ok. As for Rev Wright, I have to have more than one statement from one sermon to form a true opinion. This despite the fact you’d rather argue with single sentences most of which taken out of context. It’s the only way wingnuts can debate.
McCain is the biggest flip-flopper ever to run for office and Fallwell is just one example of many. The list goes on and on.
Posted by: Bob | Oct 27, 2008 10:12:02 AM
Well I guess the fact the Obama through him under the bus(wright) should be completely clear of the vial things his church spews about race and hatred to americaian whites
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 27, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
reddog
it is the republicans fault sorry
time to stop couching this in a lame attempt at looking unbiased…
go looik at the timing of the gramm leachey bill and the deregulation of industries all to make the rich richer…
and abuse what should have been most likely a good action for our economy in expanding homeownership…
go look at the timing of the Gramm leachey Bill
they tried to take advantage of the homeownership expansion just like they did with Enron and energy.
and for the last 2 years they have fought to keep those policies and philosophies that got us here.
throw these bums out.
Posted by: dl | October 27, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Jesse Jackson is calling for riots until Obama is given the white house. Is this the way an Obama administration will work, riots everytime he doesn’t get his way.
Posted by: crucial | October 27, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
crucial … you are such a nitwit. enough said.
Posted by: Omentum | October 27, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Palin is blowing chunks right now at her rally.
Posted by: Omentum | October 27, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
From “Make Believe Maverick”:
“John has made a pact with the devil,” says Lincoln Chafee, the former GOP senator, who has been appalled at his one-time colleague’s readiness to sacrifice principle for power. Chafee and McCain were the only Republicans to vote against the Bush tax cuts. They locked arms in opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. And they worked together in the “Gang of 14,” which blocked some of Bush’s worst judges from the federal bench.
“On all three — sadly, sadly, sadly — McCain has flip-flopped,” Chafee says. And forget all the “Country First” sloganeering, he adds. “McCain is putting himself first. He’s putting himself first in blinking neon lights.”
Posted by: Bob | October 27, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Support for Obama among Democrats is not surprising, but a striking development recently has been Barack Obama’s endorsement by prominent Republicans. The most notable was Colin Powell, but others include former Republican Governors, as well as Charles Fried, who was Ronald Reagan’s Solicitor General. Despite some policy differences with Obama, they have seen him as more stable, better informed, better qualified, and less impulsive on critical issues, including the nation’s economic crisis.
Possibly more important, as the election nears, some conservatives have grown terrified at the thought that Sarah Palin might become president in a complicated and dangerous world where her incompetence would put the nation at unprecedented risk. Even with the hope that a Palin presidency would never occur, that same alarm has impelled them to lose faith in the judgment of Senator McCain, based on his selection of an unqualified candidate for the second place on the ticket. It would be a mistake to confuse their preference for Obama with a permanent shift in political allegiance. At this point, their overriding concern appears to be the nation’s safety, but in future elections, their conservative philosophy is likely to dictate their voting the same was they have in the past.
Fred Moolten
Posted by: Fred Moolten | October 27, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
It’s very interesting to see how McCain supporters are trying to use fear to sway the election…if Obama doesn’t win, there will be rioting in the streets as per Jesse Jackson(re: crucial Oct 27, 2008: 10:16:22). Where do you guys get this stuff? So far, the hate and threats seem to be coming from only one direction…from the right. We all hear your whining over what you are against, but are you for anything? I have yet to hear McCain or Palin tell me what they are going to do for me if they are elected. All I hear is what they thing Obama will do. This tells me that McCain/Palin probably don’t have a clue what they will do for America, other than maintain the status quo…and we don’t need four more years of Bush.
Posted by: algwriter | October 27, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I am hoping that Obama is indeed marching towards the biggest landslide victory since FDR.
But, I also think Bill Kristol is a dope. The founder of PNAC and his stupid ideas is what set his own party on the track it’s on now – to a huge loss. If the party kicked the poisonous neocons out a decade ago they would probably be doing okay now.
And the neocons have their sites set on Palin and hoping to mold her blank brain into the new Bush.
You’d think the republicans would have learned by now…
But, that is good for democrats like myself who would love to see a democratic majority and democratic president. Especially if it’s obama as president.
Posted by: vwcat | October 27, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Palin supporters’ most salient argument: “She’s just like me!”
Unfortunately, that’s the same argument that Obama supporters use against her.
However, most of us haven’t sought to ban books, make rape victims pay for their rape kits, seek earmarks, bankrupt our townships, get ex-brother-in-laws fired, use tax-payer contractors to build our houses, skew a pipeline bidding process, etc, etc, ect.
Posted by: Bob | October 27, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Presidents Kerry and Gore had poll leads very similar to Obamas.
Barak, despite all his money, can’t close and can’t buy this election
America is not ready for a socialist who they do not trust
McCain wins Penn and nearly all the Bush red states. 286+ electorial
Dewey Truman round II
Posted by: tom | October 27, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
It’s laughable how the lunatic fringe far-right wingnuts try to use Obama’s middle name to instill fear.
President BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA! Get used to it imbeciles.
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
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Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Actually, looking at the electoral map of 2004 on this day, it shows Bush 274 electoral votes vs. Kerry 257
Posted by: annie | October 27, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Did everyone catch that “senior moment” McCain had yesterday on Meet the Press while trying to name his five endorsements?
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
The media is skewing the polls and giving Obama a far greater lead than he actually has.
They are basically saying, “Obama’s won, no need to vote” 8 days before election.
The MSM is doing our country a disservice and the Obama lemmings are falling for it.
McCain supporters: Get out there and vote or our great country is going to go the way of USSR and Russia. America was not founded on socialism and Obama’s spread the wealth plan is leading us into disaster.
Posted by: S Adams | October 27, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
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Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Socialist seems to be a popular word too lately…
YOUNG WOMAN: Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism and stuff?. . .
MCCAIN: Here’s what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.
This is from an interview in 2000…McCain is suggesting spreading the wealth around…sounds remarkably like….SOCIALISM….
Obama’s taxes will be no higher than Clinton’s…or better yet Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower…both popular socialists…
Know what you are talking about before repeating the party line kids.
Obama in 08
Posted by: SwiftyPA | October 27, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Socialism is another fear word used by the far-right wingnuts to instill fear. Actually this country has been practicing a form of socialism ever since the inception of farm and oil subsidies.
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Did everyone catch that “senior moment” McCain had yesterday on Meet the Press while trying to name his five endorsements?
Posted by: samurai | Oct 27, 2008 11:28:19 AM
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Was it Obama’s “coke fried brain” moment or “Muslim” moment when he said he was almost done visiting all 57 states?
What was it when he said his Uncle liberated Aushowitz (he didn’t), or when he said his parents met during the March of 1965 “Bloody Sunday” in Selma Ala, (Obama was born in 1961).
He also said that a tornado in Kansas killed 10,000 people and wiped out an entire town. 10 people died and town is still standing.
Now how about Biden: He likes to go to his favorite restaurant, Katie’s, all the time (It closed 15 yrs ago) and he said FDR was president in 1929 during market crash, but FDR didn’t go on TV blaming anyone. (FDR wasn’t pres then and there were no TV’s) Biden has had too many “senior moments” to list here and so has Obama.
Posted by: S Adams | October 27, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Governor Palin:
A few weeks before she was nominated for Vice-President, she told a visiting journalist—Philip Gourevitch, of this magazine—that “we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.”
Spreading the wealth doesn’t sound that bad does it…
Obama in 08.
Posted by: SwiftyPA | October 27, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Palin: Manages 11 million dollar operating budget, 1.7 million capitol budget,25000 employees, cut taxes in her state, cut a deal with the oil companies in regard to royalties to share with her state, Tossed the old pipeline sweetheart deal, negotiated new deal to serve Alaska and the lower U.S.
Obama: 146 days in the Senate and you’d be hard pressed to name a single thing he’s done.
Posted by: Hardworker | October 27, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
That pipeline will most likely never be built…she failed to take care of many local issues regarding it. I would love to be able say I did something that never happened. She didn’t stop the bridge to no where either. Took the money anyways when Congress stopped the bridge due to public outcry.
Posted by: SwiftyPA | October 27, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Socialism is another fear word used by the far-right wingnuts to instill fear. Actually this country has been practicing a form of socialism ever since the inception of farm and oil subsidies.
Posted by: samurai | Oct 27, 2008 11:38:10 AM
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Spread the wealth is full blown SOCIALISM. It was experimented with in Russia over 75 yrs ago and they have been trying to break from it since then. Their health care is sub-standard and medications that are easily obtained here are non-existent there.
When you don’t work as hard because you know you are not going to keep all of your earnings, people tend to not be as productive and be less ambitious.
Posted by: S Adams | October 27, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, farm subsidies, etc….all basically socialism.
Posted by: SwiftyPA | October 27, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
S Adams:
All McCain had to do was name five, ONLY FIVE, prominent Americans who had endorsed him and who should’ve been easily recalled from memory and it took him three tries to get it right. It’s called “senior memory.”
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
So Samurai– If you are going to accuse McCain of a “senior moment”, then what’s the excuse for Obama and Biden’s? When you are on the campaign trail, and someone asks you a question that you basically have to shift gears on when you have been discussing the economy and health care, is not uncommon.
Obama and Biden have either made some out right lies or they have early signs of Alzheimer’s.
Posted by: S Adams | October 27, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Muslim, socialist, Hussein are all fear words. The far-right wingnuts have nothing else.
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
They deserve disaster. The voters had to scream at McCain – We don’t care about Bill Ayers and we don’t care about nephew Joe and his boyfriend. Tell us about our job, our health insurance, and our pension. ………………….
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/27/mccain-has-found-his-voice-but-it-is-too-late/
Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | October 27, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
S Adams: I believe the early signs of Alzheimer’s are clearly more with McCain. Repeat, he couldn’t name only FIVE prominent Americans who had recently endorsed him.
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
S Adams: He also didn’t know how many homes he owns.
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, farm subsidies, etc….all basically socialism.
Posted by: SwiftyPA | Oct 27, 2008 11:47:30 AM
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Not to the extent of Obama’s plan. He wants to follow the UK’s socialist plan. He wants to force people to sign up on his healthcare plan, and employers will be forced to participate or pay a large fine. We have a choice, and Obama wants to take the choice away from the working class.
In 2001, Obama was quoted as saying :I’m not interested in the suburbs, the suburbs bore me..” What that tells me is that he wants to take from the hardworking middle class to give to the people,who might be living in the urban areas, who do not want to work or work as hard.
Posted by: S Adams | October 27, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
S Adams: He also didn’t know how many homes he owns.
Posted by: samurai | Oct 27, 2008 12:10:08 PM
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His wife inherited homes, some that they allow family members to live in. That is his wife’s business that she takes care of.(They take care of their family, unlike Obama, whose family lives on $1 a month in 6 x 9 huts) He also owns some condominium rental properties, he said he wasn’t sure how many units were in the complex.
The naming the 5 endorsements, SO WHAT!! You are beating a dead horse here. Come up with something new. Biden’s problem is much more prominent, he has had 3 brain anuresyms and I’m sure the hair plugs and Botox haven’t helped.
Posted by: S Adams | October 27, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
If people thought Joe the Plumber was some kind of stumble for Barack Obama, a rediscovered interview from 2001 should dispel any doubts about Barack Obama’s redistributionism. Seven years ago, Obama told Chicago Public Radio that the Warren Court was too conservative and missed its opportunity to redistribute wealth on a much grander scale. In fact, Obama wanted them to break the Constitution and reorder American society far outside of what the founders intended.
“If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court. I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order as long as I could pay for it I’d be o.k. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society.
To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as its been interpreted and Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the Federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the Federal government or State government must do on your behalf, and that hasn’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, um, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that.
I’m not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. You know, the institution just isn’t structured that way.”
One more clarifying thought is in order. Barack Obama complains that the Constitution is a “charter of negative liberties”. That’s because the Constitution was intended as a limiting document, to curtail the power of the federal government vis-a-vis the states and the individual. The founders intended at the time to limit the reach of the federal government, and built the Constitution accordingly.
Barack Obama wants to reverse that entirely. And that’s radical change you’d better believe in, or else.
Posted by: 2001 Obama: Hey, why didn't the Court become Robin Hood? | October 27, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Muslim, socialist, Hussein are all fear words. The far-right wingnuts have nothing else.
Posted by: samurai | Oct 27, 2008 12:01:26 PM
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That is enough, and if it isn’t then add, unrepetent terrorist for friends like Ayers, criminal business partners like Rezko and a racist anti-american church Obama attended for 20 yrs.
Obama wouldn’t even pass a security check to be his own body guard.
Posted by: S Adams | October 27, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
S Adams: Good exchange, but nothing resolved. You’ll vote for McCain, and I’ll vote for Obama. Good day.
Posted by: samurai | October 27, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Samurai–I’ve got work to do for now. If Obama is elected, I’ve decided not to work as hard and keep my income under the $250,000 mark, unless he lowers it to $42,000, which he voted to do 94 times in the Senate, in which case I’ll quit work and live off the government.I fugure I’ll come out better that way.
Peace out Oh misguided one.
Posted by: S Adams | October 27, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
… unless he lowers it to $42,000, which he voted to do 94 times in the Senate, in which case I’ll quit work and live off the government.I fugure I’ll come out better that way.
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The Obama Plan Would Cut Taxes For Middle Class Families By Three Times More Than
Senator McCain’s Plan. Obama Has Never Voted To Increase Taxes on Moderate Income Families. In recent weeks, the McCain campaign has repeatedly suggested that Obama voted to increase taxes on families making $42,000 per year. Factcheck.org declared this claim “simply false,” and the Washington Post Editorial Board
determined that this claim was “unacceptably misleading.” According to the Bipartisan Committee for a
Responsible Federal Budget, the budget resolution vote that the McCain campaign relies on for this charge
“[did] not raise taxes.” In fact, in the context of that budget resolution, both Senators Obama and McCain voted
to extend middle class tax benefits. Likewise, the McCain campaign’s claim that Obama has voted for higher
taxes 94 times, a charge the New York Times called “false” and factcheck.org called “misleading.”
What the McCain Campaign doesn’t tell you is that, according to the Tax Policy Center, middle class families
will get at least a three times larger tax cut under the Obama plan than under Senator McCain’s.
Posted by: facts DO INDEED matter | October 27, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Illinois State Senator Barack Obama voted 4 times against laws to protect babies who survive abortions. Meanwhile, U.S. Senators voted 98-0 for Born Alive Infant Protections. Senator Obama says deciding when babies get human rights is ABOVE HIS PAY GRADE. Tell him abortion survivors deserve legal protections too.
Senator Obama has attempted to cover up his abysmal voting record, saying that there were already protections in IL state law for babies born alive after abortions. However, existing laws had loopholes and the IL Attorney General at the time determined the practice of abandoning infants born alive during late-term abortions was NOT COVERED by the law.
Obama had several chances to close that loophole in IL law and give babies the necessary medical care they need to survive after a failed abortion, but he didn’t do it. In fact Obama voted against bills to close the loophole.
What kind of President would Obama be if he refuses to give infants basic human rights?
What kind of President? In terms of abortion—the most radical President in American history. He has already told Planned Parenthood that one of his top priorities in his administration will be signing the Freedom of Choice Act, which will essentially federalize all aspects of the abortion issue. It will ELIMINATE any restrictions at the state level, even those that have survived the scrutiny of the Supreme Court. FOCA will also repeal the Hyde Amendment and restart federal FUNDING for abortions.
Obama likes to speak in soothing tones about abortion, claiming that “no one is pro-abortion” while promising radical change on behalf of the abortion industry — which is what Planned Parenthood represents and to a large extent comprises. His record shows how radical he is. While the Illinois AG told the legislature that the existing law could not be enforced, Obama actively blocked efforts to rewrite it so that abortionists could not simply stuff living infants into closets for them to die from neglect.
Posted by: Obama, Radical Pro-Abortionist | October 27, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Senator Obama has attempted to cover up his abysmal voting record, saying that there were already protections in IL state law for babies born alive after abortions.
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At the time Obama voted against a bill containing language designed to protect infants who were “born alive,” such protection was already on the books as Illinois state law.
The accusations against Obama are so reckless that not even the Republican state senator who sponsored the bill will support them. In fact, he freely admits that “None of those who voted against SB-1082 favored infanticide.”
The bill was opposed by many legislators and groups like the ILLINOIS MEDICAL SOCIETY because of the unintended impact it would have had on other laws and legal precedents in Illinois.
Obama is on the record saying that he would have supported a similar bill that came up in Congress — but that didn’t pose a threat to a woman’s right to choose the way the Illinois bill did.
Posted by: facts DO INDEED matter | October 27, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
FYI everyone,
Obama was born in Kenya and legally NOT allowed to be president, just like Arnold Schwarzenager(born in Europe).
Look it up on you tube under “Obama’s birth certificate” and see a DEMOCRAT’s view.
Posted by: Carrie | October 27, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
HE DOESN’T HAVE TO PERSUADE ME….HE HAD ME BACK WHEN I WANTED IT TO BE A HILLARY VS. McCAIN BATTLE. THERE ARE MILLIONS LIKE ME WHO SEE THROUGH BAMBI, AND WILL VOTE McCAIN/PALIN ON NOV. 4.
LIKE THE GOOD AMERICANS WHO TOOK DOWN FLIGHT 93 AND STOOD UP TO DO WHAT WAS RIGHT, BY RUSHING THAT COCKPIT BEFORE THAT PLANE COULD HIT THE CAPITOL!
AMERICANS WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN.
Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | October 27, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Obama was born in Kenya and legally NOT allowed to be president, just like Arnold Schwarzenager(born in Europe).
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Just one of many Factchecks debunking this nonsense. This one brought to you from the Washington Post:
“The truth: Sen. Barack Obama, born in Hawaii, is a Christian family man with a track record of public service.”
Posted by: facts DO INDEED matter | October 27, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider,
I too wanted to see a Hillary vs McCain election. I voted for Hillary during primary’s, but I am supporting McCain. Obama is just scary, from the name to the Marxist positions, Rev Wright, racist, anti-american church, Terrorists and criminal friends and no proven record. I do not trust him and I think he will say anything to get elected and then let Pelosi and Reid have free rein.
He sounds more like a evangelical preacher than a politician and the Obama lemmings just eat it up.
Very scary indeed.
Posted by: Sean A | October 27, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
It was just announced today that the Oklahoman, the largest newspaper in Oklahoma, is endorsing John McCain for president! The Oklahoman is a major newspaper. It has a circulation of all over the southwest. This election is not over yet! Go John and Sarah!
Posted by: carlyonsue | October 27, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
With regard to McCain’s choice of Palin: A hothead picked an airhead. And the American people were bright enough to see both for what they are.
Why do John McCain’s handlers hate America? :-)
Posted by: The Truth | October 27, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Take a little time to read this:
The Norwegian newspaper VG has reported a truly amazing story about a newly-wed trying to get to Norway to be with her husband, and the stranger who helped pay an unexpected luggage surcharge. The blog “Leisha’s Random Thoughts” has translated the story.
It was 1988, and Mary Andersen was at the Miami airport checking in for a long flight to Norway to be with her husband when the airline representative informed her that she wouldn’t be able to check her luggage without paying a 100 surcharge:
When it was finally Mary’s turn, she got the message that would crush her bubbling feeling of happiness.
-You’ll have to pay a 103 dollar surcharge if you want to bring both those suitcases to Norway, the man behind the counter said.
Mary had no money. Her new husband had travelled ahead of her to Norway, and she had no one else to call.
-I was completely desperate and tried to think which of my things I could manage without. But I had already made such a careful selection of my most prized possessions, says Mary.
As tears streamed down her face, she heard a “gentle and friendly voice” behind her saying, “That’s okay, I’ll pay for her.”
Mary turned around to see a tall man whom she had never seen before.
-He had a gentle and kind voice that was still firm and decisive. The first thing I thought was, Who is this man?
Although this happened 20 years ago, Mary still remembers the authority that radiated from the man.
-He was nicely dressed, fashionably dressed with brown leather shoes, a cotton shirt open at the throat and khaki pants, says Mary.
She was thrilled to be able to bring both her suitcases to Norway and assured the stranger that he would get his money back. The man wrote his name and address on a piece of paper that he gave to Mary. She thanked him repeatedly. When she finally walked off towards the security checkpoint, he waved goodbye to her.
Who was the man?
Barack Obama.
Twenty years later, she is thrilled that the friendly stranger at the airport may be the next President and has voted for him already and donated 100 dollars to his campaign:
-He was my knight in shining armor, says Mary, smiling.
She paid the 103 dollars back to Obama the day after she arrived in Norway. At that time he had just finished his job as a poorly paid community worker* in Chicago, and had started his law studies at prestigious Harvard university.
Mary even convinced her parents to vote for him:
In the spring of 2006 Mary’s parents had heard that Obama was considering a run for president, but that he had still not decided. They chose to write a letter in which they told him that he would receive their votes. At the same time, they thanked Obama for helping their daughter 18 years earlier.
And Obama replied:
In a letter to Mary’s parents dated May 4th, 2006 and stamped ‘United States Senate, Washington DC’, Barack Obama writes:
‘I want to thank you for the lovely things you wrote about me and for reminding me of what happened at Miami airport. I’m happy I could help back then, and I’m delighted to hear that your daughter is happy in Norway. Please send her my best wishes. Sincerely, Barack Obama, United States Senator’.
The parents sent the letter on to Mary.
Mary says that when her friends and associates talk about the election, especially when race relations is the heated subject, she relates the story of the kind man who helped out a stranger-in-need over twenty years ago, years before he had even thought about running for high office.
Truly a wonderful story, and something that needs to be passed along in the maelstorm of fear-and-smear politics we are being subjected to right now.
UPDATE: Thanks for the recommends, folks! Also, remember this was 1988, when 100 dollars was quite a bit of money, compared to today’s value.
By the way, this would be the perfect antidote to the Smear E-mails going around. If anyone has a good long email chain list, shoot it out, and let it be passed along.
Posted by: themanwhosawtomorrow | October 27, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
wishful thinking i guess.
Posted by: msa123 | October 27, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
What I can’t figure out with those supporting Obama is:
1. They actually buy/believe in his Leftist views on how to do things.
2. Are simply blaming the Republicans for all our problems, because the President is a Republican.
3. Have just been so brainwashed by Marxism through our media, public education system, art, film, music, etc. all they’re lives that they’re OK with the Commie stuff?
Surely all the above, but which one the most? Would be interested to know.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 27, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Great website
http://hiphoprepublican.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Carrie | October 28, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
It’s going to be so wonderful to never have another republican president for the remainder of the lifetimes of anyone now living!
Posted by: randy99 | October 28, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Ha ha
Posted by: Carrie | October 28, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
msa123,want to know why people support obama?take a good hard look at yourself,now look at the presidential candidate.Achievements in life are measured by not the company you keep,its really the individuals worth to the lives that he has made better,even when all odds are against him,preserverance and dedication is one’s ultimate character in determining if you succeed or if you fail..
what has mc cain really done for you?
redogg,get a life!!!!
Posted by: greg | October 28, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm