The Note: McCain Brings Attack to Second Debate

Many Americans tuned in for the Palin vs Biden debate, hopefully just as many tune in tonight. I know I personally cannot wait to see the Second Presidential Debate tonight between Barack Obama and John McCain.
http://www.congratstothewinners.com/2008/10/second-presidential-debate.html

On Anderson’s Cooper 360 they did a major investigative look at the Ayers/Obama connection.
Money Quote:
“But the relationship between Obama and Ayers went much deeper, ran much longer, and was much more political than Obama said.”

McCain = DISHONORABLE; Palin = SCARY!!!

they lied to us about wmd
they lied to us about Palin’s readiness and brains
they lied to us about Katrina
they lied to us about Presidential signing statements
they lied to us about the economy
they lied to us about Libby
they lied to us about being greeted as Liberators
they lied to us about mushroom clouds
they lied to us about Gonzales
they lied to us about global warming
they lied to us about the fundamentals of our economy being strong
they lied to us about judicial appointments
they lied to us about abu ghraib
they lied to us about secret prison camps
they lied to us about “mission accomplished”
they lied to us about closed door energy policy meetings
they lied to us about Afghanistan
they lied to us about lobbyists writing their economic proposals
they lied to us
they lied to us they lied to us
same lying team
same lying tactics
9th year
throw McCain adn Palin out on their a$$es.
America get angry
…for being lied to… still…
throw these bums out! NOW!

they lied to us about wmd
they lied to us about Palin’s readiness and brains
they lied to us about Katrina
they lied to us about Presidential signing statements
they lied to us about the economy
they lied to us about Libby
they lied to us about being greeted as Liberators
they lied to us about mushroom clouds
they lied to us about Gonzales
they lied to us about global warming
they lied to us about the fundamentals of our economy being strong
they lied to us about judicial appointments
they lied to us about abu ghraib
they lied to us about secret prison camps
they lied to us about “mission accomplished”
they lied to us about closed door energy policy meetings
they lied to us about Afghanistan
they lied to us about lobbyists writing their economic proposals
they lied to us
they lied to us
they lied to us
same lying team
same lying tactics
9th year
throw McCain and Palin out on their a$$es.
America get angry
…for being lied to… still…
throw these bums out! NOW!

McCain= dishonored man with very low IQ Sarah= Miss Alaska Congeniality with a very low IQ. God save America from McPalin. God bless America and God bless Obama/Biden

Let the truth be told…
since you do not seem to get it
AGAIN…
they lied to us about wmd
they lied to us about Palin’s readiness and brains
they lied to us about Katrina
they lied to us about Presidential signing statements
they lied to us about the economy
they lied to us about Libby
they lied to us about being greeted as Liberators
they lied to us about mushroom clouds
they lied to us about Gonzales
they lied to us about global warming
they lied to us about the fundamentals of our economy being strong
they lied to us about judicial appointments
they lied to us about abu ghraib
they lied to us about secret prison camps
they lied to us about “mission accomplished”
they lied to us about closed door energy policy meetings
they lied to us about Afghanistan
they lied to us about lobbyists writing their economic proposals
they lied to us
they lied to us
they lied to us
same lying team
same lying tactics
9th year
throw McCain and Palin out on their a$$es.
America get angry
…for being lied to… still…
throw these bums out! NOW!

Keep “b slapping” em O!
The Great White NOPE is losing it!
The cynics can’t seem to realize that their ship with Admiral McChicken at the helm is taking on water FAST. With every passing day, the ship sinks deeper and deeper.
They keep WHINING while we keep WINNING. Can anyone show me a battleground state with 15 or more electoral votes that Obama doesn’t have locked up?
THIS IS GOING TO BE A LANDSLIDE!

anne and Nat
nice spinning the truth
Once again we see
Mccain Palin supporters
just Like Bush Cheney’s…
they lie to us.!
throw these bums out.
the bums are going down and their lying a$$es are getting thrown to the curb.
their is one lying team that has destroyed our country along with our constituion
our safety
our economy
our standing
all we have left is our future
throw the same team
same tactics OUT!

Obama 08
send McCain to a senior home and Ms Alaska packing.. They continue to ignore the importance of the presidental postion and mud sling..
fear fear fear…………….

Ok so let me get this straight BO never heard anything bad come out of Wrights mouth first , then not those words ,ended up not the man he knew. Rezko, just did a couple deals with him not the man he knew. Now Ayers he never knew of the things Ayers did in his past (weather underground) that is his story today from Robert Gibbs own mouth. Give me a f-ing break, so either he is a totally liar (which we know) or the dumbest man living under a rock for the last 40 some years. I am dumbfounded over this guy

Ok so let me get this straight BO never heard anything bad come out of Wrights mouth first , then not those words ,ended up not the man he knew. Rezko, just did a couple deals with him not the man he knew. Now Ayers he never knew of the things Ayers did in his past (weather underground) that is his story today from Robert Gibbs own mouth. Give me a f-ing break, so either he is a total liar (which we know) or the dumbest man living under a rock for the last 40 some years. I am dumbfounded over this guy.

The Constitution being thrown under the bus?
Barack Obama is displaying a disservice to every citizen of this country, to our Constitution, to the millions that donated hundreds of millions of dollars to Obama’s campaign. I value the United States Constitution, our ideals, and respect our forefathers that wrote the Constitution so many years ago. Whether Phil Berg’s suit against Barack Obama is “for real or not”, the documents should be presented to the courts. Why hasn’t Barack Obama if he is holding the proper documents turned around with his lawyers and tell Phil Berg to drop the suit, or I will sue you. Prevent the biggest scam yet against the American people and demand that Barack Obama supply the courts with the proper documentation. The Democratic Party said two years ago there is nothing wrong with Fannie Mae—no bills before Congress allowed to fix because there was no problem. The Democratic Party is now saying that Barack Obama has a birth certificate but so far ONLY the “certification of birth” viewed by certain individuals from Fact-Check(an Obama funded site) that can be obtained after the fact by any dishonest means? The suit will be immediately dropped with the documents presented to the courts, yet Obama and the DNC hired lawyers to fight discovery and the facts.

HPBOSTON, for everyone guilt by association smear against Obama republican throw out, the democrats have one for McCain.
The gullibility of anyone willing to believe the most over the top, ridiculous stories coming out in this election right now is too silly to use their mind.
If people stepped back and looked at the smears and innuendos using common sense people with a working mind would see the nonsense they really are.
We meet many people in our lives and some turn out to be not so great. They may have a past or their character turns out be flawed.
There is not one person so pure and perfect to say they have never had that. Everyone knows someone, even just very minimally, in their lives at one time, who turned out to have some kind of past.
Lets get over ourselves and our self righteousness and quit pointing fingers at each other.
It’s high time this country grew up and focused on the important issues and quit letting ourselves be distrated by utter nonsense and finger pointing and mind games.

This ticket McCain/Palin is hard to
swallow.
Stop name calling and stick to
substance if you are able to.
If not get ready to wave a white flag’
and give it up!

McCain may want to go negative during the debate, but in doing so, he would take a huge risk.
Voters want to hear the candidates discuss the issues, not attack each other. And lot of people — regardless of their politics — don’t like Swift Boat type ads. Independents — whose support McCain desperately needs — certainly don’t.
So if McCain turns a town hall debate into an opportunity to practice character assassination, he will be booed, and the booing will appear in the next Obama ad.
I can’t wait.

McCain – Flailin ’08
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Barack Obama attracting 52% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. This is the second straight day that Obama has led by eight percentage points, his largest lead of the year. For the past twelve days, Obama’s support has ranged from 50% to 52% while McCain has been at 44% of 45% every day.

McCain and the Republicans are looking small.
The guilt by association stuff just doesn’t seem big enough to get people to not notice the economy.
And by telegraphing their attacks, I’m pretty sure most independents see this latest turn toward the negative by John McCain as basic acknowledgement that McCain knows he can’t win on the issues.

Todd and sara palin belonged to aig an independent anti-american group that hates america and doesnt want alaska part of it google it the things these people say about our country are disgusting SARA AND TODD HATE AMERICA!

To test the importance of the Ayers connection people need to ask themselves if they would consider a guy who’s house they visited once, 13 years ago, for a work-related meeting, a friend.
Obama did not chose time and place for that meeting, and the only connection between him and Ayers was his predecessor in the Illinois State Senate who arranged the meeting to announce her run for Congress to some of her constituents. Obama did not know about Ayers’ history and why should he?
You have to be pretty biased to see an Obama-Ayers connection there. But if you do you will have no problem with the next step, which is radicalizing Ayers beyond who he actually was in the 60′s and who he developed into later. But that is already beside the point because what he did has absolutely nothing, NADA to do with Obama.
What Palin was really saying was:
There’s less that a month until the election. We are behind in the polls. We have no answers to the challenges facing America so we have to divert people’s attention.
Pathetic.

SARA AND TODD PALIN HATE AMERICA TODD PALIN IS ANTI AMERICAN SARA FUNRAISED WITH THE ANTI-AMERICAN GROUP WAKE UP PEOPLE LEARN ABOUT THE PALINS AND THEIR ASSOCIATIONS IN ALASKA!

I would like to know the results of a psychiatric exam of John McCain given his being tortured during captivity.
John McCain’s unfocused campaign makes me think he suffers from PTSD and is unfit to be president.

All of these people saying that it is about time Obama faced scrutiny obviously did not pay much attention to the Democratic primary. Obama faced intense scrutiny at times, but due to the long running nature of that election it was spread out over time. Much of what the questions he faced were about the very things that McCain/Palin are bringing up now yet again. Obama then responds with a list of McCain scandals, which on the surface are very similar to what they say about Obama, with the Keating Five and G. Gordon Liddy. All that is happening is that partisan politics are being interjected into an time when America needs the best, and not the worst, of politics to help lift us from the mess of two wars and a failing economy.

BECK
They are using the FEAR CARD they have ran out of everything else how dare they talk about the economy or the issuses so they plant these people in their rallies TO USE FEAR remember 2004 right before election day BIN LADEN FLOODED THE AIRWAVES well mccains has pulled bushs trick out of the hat!

From Newsweek:
The Obama campaign has shattered all fund-raising records, raking in $458 million so far, with about half the bounty coming from donors who contribute $200 or less. Aides say that’s an illustration of a truly democratic campaign. To critics, though, it can be an invitation for fraud and illegal foreign cash because donors giving individual sums of $200 or less don’t have to be publicly reported. Consider the cases of Obama donors “Doodad Pro” of Nunda, N.Y., who gave $17,130, and “Good Will” of Austin, Texas, who gave more than $11,000—both in excess of the $2,300-per-person federal limit. In two recent letters to the Obama campaign, Federal Election Commission auditors flagged those (and other) donors and informed the campaign that the sums had to be returned.
Neither name had ever been publicly reported because both individuals made online donations in $10 and $25 increments. “Good Will” listed his employer as “Loving” and his occupation as “You,” while supplying as his address 1015 Norwood Park Boulevard, which is shared by the Austin nonprofit Goodwill Industries. Suzanha Burmeister, marketing director for Goodwill, said the group had “no clue” who the donor was. She added, however, that the group had received five puzzling thank-you letters from the Obama campaign this year, prompting it to send the campaign an e-mail in September pointing out the apparent fraudulent use of its name.
“Doodad Pro” listed no occupation or employer; the contributor’s listed address is shared by Lloyd and Lynn’s Liquor Store in Nunda. “I have never heard of such an individual,” says Diane Beardsley, who works at the store and is the mother of one of the owners. “Nobody at this store has that much money to contribute.” (She added that a Doodad’s Boutique, located next door, had closed a year ago, before the donations were made.)

beck: “Let not forget Sarah Palin association’s with the radical Alaska Independence Party that wants to secede from this great country, the United States of America.”
Respectfully, I disagree. Let’s do forget about this and everything else involving Palin. She’s boring now that she’s just another Republican ducking an investigation.

My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, look at how Palin and McCain are blaspheming thy holy Name! It makes me really furious when these FASCISTS with their hearts sold to Hitlerism present themselves as the custodians of the Christian faith. Jesus never preached hate, not even against those who falsely accused and crucified him. Indeed, Jesus did something which was radically new in the antiquity: Jesus enjoined his followers to pray for those who hated them. Palin and McCain are the contemporary equivalents of those who cried 2000 years ago “Crucify Him!” “Crucify Him!” Jesus said: “By their fruit you shall know them”. The most dangerous politicians in human history are those whose inordinate ambitions far exceed their brain power: Hitler and PALIN. Empty-headedness in politics deploys terror, fear, lies, and character assassination. No one will and can see the image of Jesus Christ through the words and deeds of Sarah Palin.

Really really scary what Palin is saying and doing. People at her rallies, as reported in the Washington Post, yelled at a black news man something to the effect of “Sit down, n——!”. Another person yelled out, about Obama, “Kill him!”
If she can’t call those people out at her own rallies and tell them “That’s not America” she needs to be taken off the Republican ticket, right now.
This is NOT funny or some esoteric conversation over breaktime coffee anyone should be intellectualizing – people are going to get HURT if this fear mongering continues. Look, we may have differing views we all feel strongly about – but does anyone here really want to see anyone hurt?! I don’t want anyone hurt. I don’t want McCain or Palin hurt, I don’t want to see Obama or his family hurt and I certainly don’t wish to see people who simply share one viewpoint or another gunned down by some “whipped into a frenzy by this kind of talk” radical group.
This horror needs to STOP now. Where is law enforcement?! If an activist demonstrator had even suggested such a thing he would have been arrested, tazered, pepper sprayed and promptly locked away! What is going on HERE? And why is this incident not all over the news, and why aren’t the FBI, CIA and Secret Service stepping in to stop this – and why is the President and Congress not sanctioning these candidates for inciting violence? Isn’t that against the Patriot ACT???!!!

MCCAIN/PALIN ARE A DISGRACE TO THIS COUNTRY! THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED AND THEY CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS THEY SHOULD SEEK GOD SPEWING HATE AND ENFORCING VIOLENCE! DISGRACE

The Woods Fund financed the hiring of Obama in 1985 by the Developing Communities Project.
Obama’s Developing Communities Project supported radical school reform project together with Bill Ayers.
Obama and Bernardine Dohrn, wife of Bill Ayers, worked for elite law firm Sidley and Austin.
Chicago lefty lawyer and Dohrn classmate Judson Miner hires Barack Obama out of Harvard.
Obama is named Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge founded by Bill Ayers.
Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn host Obama’s state senate kick-off (his first electoral campaign) in their Hyde Park home in the fall of 1995.
In late 1997 and 1998, Obama, Dohrn and Ayers opposed a bill to impose “blended” sentencing on certain juvenile offenders was proposed in the Illinois legislature where Obama was now a state senator. (It would allow parallel juvenile and adult sentences with the adult sentence held as a threat to be imposed if serious offenders violated terms of their juvenile conviction) Michelle Obama, now working at the University of Chicago in Hyde Park, organized a panel discussion there in late 1997 as the new bill was gaining momentum, to discuss Ayers’ book. Barack Obama and Ayers were on the panel.
In 2006, Obama advisor promotes a reparations approach to education reform; Ayers endorses it.
Mike Klonsky (one of Bill Ayers’ and Bernardine Dohrn’s comrades in the late 60s Students for a Democratic Society) currently blogs for Obama. Dohrn and Ayers moved in one direction toward the violent tactics of the Weather Underground. Klonsky, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia, dropped the pro-Russian communist politics of his parents and became a committed Maoist.

Status Quo:
John McCain: POW
Barak Obama: POTUS

Fishmonger: “What they don’t say?
- McCain was given the lightest admonition.”
Being censured by Congress for lacking judgment, which McCain was, is the lightest admonition?
Anyway the bottom line in all this is McCain acknowledges he can’t win with the issues. So he goes on the personal attacks. And this Keating thing was counterfire.
That’s all it is, and we all – Obama and McCain supporters – know this, whether we have the integrity to say so out loud or not.
And to me the relevant part of the above is that McCain can’t win on the issues.

The town hall format will create problems for McCain, should he choose to get nasty. And even if he did, Obama must redirect it to the greater problems facing our nation (war, economy, need for regulation). McCain is now short of substance, long on filth and smear, while Palin is helping the Dems every time she speaks.
Hold steady Obama, stick to the script throughout October and keep the conversation on the economy and the ire we all feel toward the Bush years.

By the way, somewhat lost in all this “domestic terrorism” was the probability that McCain lost Florida and Pennsylvania yesterday.
The McCain campaign announced its intention to squeeze $1.3 trillion savings out of Medicare.
I’m sure the Obama campaign is quickly planning on how to ensure older voters in those states and elsewhere know about this, as well as McCain’s seeming interest in privatizing Social Security.

Creamsykle: “Why isn’t anyone reporting on the racial slurs and outright hatred being spewed by supporters at Palins rallies?”
Because as distasteful as some of that stuff sounds, it also sounds small next to the magnitude of economic crisis we found ourselves in at the moment.
And make no mistake about it. John McCain wants us talking about these distractions. He’d love for next Sunday’s talk shows to be dominated about whether race is playing a factor in the race.
He doesn’t want the conversation to stay on the actual issues.

In other words, Creamsykle, John McCain wants you offended, enraged, disgusted… whatever it takes to get your eye off the ball.

This election is just about over. It’s looking more like a landslide for Obama.
Mccain and his supporters are desperate.
Me? I’m laughing it up.
.

Come on. McCain is a fool. Palin is a fool and they have a bunch of fools for supporters.
Say Goodnight to John and Sarah.

John McCain status: PTSD
Sarah Palin status: POS

Here’s a nice little Sarah Palin hockey mom movie.
If the link does not work just google “Head of Skate”.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/09/29/votd-head-of-skate-movie-trailer/

McCain spoke forcefully on May 25, 2006, on behalf of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005:
“Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole. I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.”
In this speech, McCain managed to predict the entire collapse that has forced the government to eat Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, along with Bear Stearns and AIG. He hammers the falsification of financial records to benefit executives, including Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson, both of whom have worked as advisers to Barack Obama this year. McCain also noted the power of their lobbying efforts to forestall oversight over their business practices. He finishes with the warning that proved all too prescient over the past few days and weeks.

Sarah Palin on the economy:
Do John McCain and I think the economy is awesome? You betcha!

Here are the repurcussions of the McCain/Palin ticket inciting hatred:
Man shot three times in street by racist gunman – for wearing Barack Obama T-shirt
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 2:15 PM on 07th October 2008
Comments (3) Add to My Stories
A man told today how he was shot three times in a London street for wearing a Barack Obama T-shirt.
Dube Egwuatu was buying a mobile telephone top-up card in an off-licence when the gunman confronted him and glared at the top, which carries an image of the Democrat US presidential candidate underneath the legend ‘Believe’.
The man then launched into a tirade of racist slurs, shouting ‘I f***ing hate n*****s’ and urging 36-year-old Mr Egwuatu to leave the shop with him.
Respect: Dube Egwuatu wearing the Obama T-shirt that provoked a racist attack
The man then left the shop but when Mr Egwuatu re-emerged, the attacker was waiting for him in broad daylight with a threatening-looking dog and holding a gun behind his back.
Realising what had sparked the increasingly violent assault, the terrified Mr Egwuatu zipped up his jacket to cover the image of Mr Obama and walked to his car.
But the shaven-headed man, who was white, followed Mr Egwuatu and after pulling open the passenger door pointed the gun at him.
After pleading with the man to leave him alone, the married former street warden put the keys in the ignition and turned the engine on.
The attacker then fired the gas-powered ball-bearing pistol three times, hitting the civil servant in the face, hand and shoulder.
Fearing for his life and bleeding heavily, Mr Egwuatu raced away in his car and found somewhere safe to call for help.
He was taken to hospital and later sent to have a piece of metal removed from his jaw.
Mr Egwuatu, a data analyst with Croydon Council, said: ‘The venom in his voice was frightening.
‘He was telling me that he was going to kill me.
‘I couldn’t believe it was happening – and just because I was wearing an Obama T-shirt. He was trying to make me walk somewhere quieter, saying: ‘I’ve got something for you,’ and ‘I’m going to kill you.’
He added: ‘Obama inspires me, his educational track record alone is quite unbelievable – that is why I was wearing the T-shirt.
‘I did not think for one minute it could stir up such powerful feelings of hatred and I never said a word to him.’
Mr Egwuatu’s wife, Angela, 35, said neither of them had experienced anything like it during their childhood in Nigeria.
Mrs Egwuatu, an immigration officer, said: ‘At first my feelings were pure horror and now it is pure anger.
‘If he had been carrying a real gun I would have been a widow. It is just ridiculous.
‘I don’t know how a person’s mentality works. Why would a T-shirt get you to the point where you want to shoot someone.’
To the untrained eye, ball-bearing guns like the one used in the attack look every bit like a real firearm.
The potentially lethal weapons are often converted by criminals to fire real bullets, and can be bought easily in high-street shops and on websites.
The Met said it was investigating the incident, which took place in South Norwood, and that police searched a nearby house which the attacker was seen going into.
No one has been arrested.
HERE IS WHAT COMMENTERS OUTSIDE THE US THINK OF THIS:
This is disgusting.
It also shows that we don’t have enough police on the streets.
- Chris, S.W. England, 07/10/2008 11:04
Very unfortunate, but air-guns cannot be converted to fire real bullets. We have a serious illegal firearms problem in Britain, but it will not be addressed by tall stories and modern myths.
- Anthony Van Graff., Dover. UK, 07/10/2008 10:50
How completely disgusting. There is never,ever any excuse for such disgusting racism.
Racism is not something I have ever experience myself and I probably could not really tell you why I feel so strongly about it- the bottom line is- I just don’t understand it!!
- Humpty, UK, 07/10/2008 10:12

I am simply not surprised anymore with what the McCain campaign comes up with. Soon they are going to start claiming that Obama is the antichrist. Throughout this campaign, they have managed to stoke fears that Obama is muslim (like simply being one is a dangerous thing, but the fact that Obama is actually christian is not known to many people), link him to all sorts of associations with crooks, sometimes simply on the basis of Obama being in the same room with a person, lie about his tax plan for the middle class, continue to charge that the media is biased (to innoculate their lies). Now they claim Barack Obama is associated with the Weathermen (Obama was 8 when they were active!). There is a difference between an casual acquaintance, and an undeniable influence on someone’s decisions. Yes, indeed Obama has gone into attack mode as well, but his attacks are based on far more relevant associations like McCain’s deep links with Lobbyists (the McCain campaign is both financially supported and staffed by lobbies, and he has demonstrated his culpability to corrupt commercial influence thru the Keating 5 scandal), McCain’s dangerous healthcare plan (taxing your healthcare benefits to give you healthcare tax credits), his proposal to open up social security for investment decisions (good idea, but also adding considerable risk to people’s security net), and McCain’s behavior (claiming that the fundamentals of our economy is strong, and then messing up the bailout talks for political gain, his impulsive my-way-or-the-highway approach to foreign policy, his irresponsible selection of Palin), his tactics of dividing the electorate on choices that do not matter to the challenges we are facing today (guns, abortion, gay marriage etc), and his unethical attempts at voter caging across swing states to disqualify democrat votes. So while both campaigns have gone negative, we need to take things into perspective, and understand the difference between mud slinging versus relevant criticism, they are very different things. I have given up trying to convince the hard-core right wingers, and racially prejudiced people, because these are a group that have been completely swayed by their own preconceived notions about a candidate they have not even tried to read up about. This group has been hugely affected by John McCain’s systematic strike at the media establishment (so they can say anything they want), to believe only what John McCain is saying, and have been programmed to allow their prejudice to claim that Obama is not experienced enough. TRUTH IS, YOU CAN HIRE EXPERIENCE AND YOU CAN BUY KNOWLEDGE, BUT WHAT YOU CANNOT CHANGE IS A PERSON’S JUDGMENT AND THE FUNDAMENTAL MORAL COMPASS THAT GUIDES IT. I am hoping that the Independent voters and undecided voters, who tend to be more deliberate, and inquisitive in their considerations would be able to make these critical distinctions.

Sarah Palins husband was anti-American secessionist, and why was she palling around with them?

MBrady,
Nobody cares anymore about a birth certificate. This is continuing evidence that people like you don’t really care about the economic crisis just lies and smears…
The media has refuted those lies about Obama’s birth certificate months ago during the primaries.
Go share your e-mail spam with the Fox News crowd. Maybe Sean Hannity will talk about it on his show..

1. Obama is the most liberal senator in Washington.
2. Like other liberal presidents, he’d load the Supreme Court with the most liberal judges he could find.
3. Like other liberal presidents, he’d spend tax dollars like they were going out of style–when the economy must have a steady, experienced, pork-hating hand at the wheel.
4. Like other liberal senators, Obama was prepared to surrender to terrorists in Iraq.
5. Like other liberal senators, he is the wrong man to protect your children against Russia, Iran, North Korea and al Qaeda in dangerous times.
6. McCain fought for responsible regulation of the mortgage merchants when the Democrats were against it. McCain don’t just talk, he acts.
7. McCain’s closest Senate colleague is a Democrat, Joe Lieberman. McCain doesn’t just talk bipartisanship, he acts.
8. McCain picked Sarah Palin because our country needs young leaders who don’t just talk; but who act.
9. McCain will do what he knows is right, no matter what China or Germany or the U.N. thinks. You can’t protect this nation by talking. You have to act.
10. Don’t judge McCain as a politician or speech-maker. Judge him as a man who is more than talk. He has laid down his life for this country.

If McCain continues with his line of attacks at the townhall debate, he will come of as angry and out of touch..
During the Democratic primaries all of this stuff was brought up before. There are no new revelations about Ayers, Rev. Wright, and Tony Rezko. Obama has long distanced himself from these individuals. People are digging up old news that has already been refuted by the media…
And Palin should realize that those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones..Troopergate, Rev Muthee (the witchdoctor) and her husband’s AIP membership can easily be discussed as well.

It is so sad to see that The campaigns have gotten ugly.I wish they would stick to the issues.There is no way it is going to get better with Obamas policies he cant afford to do most of them he will put us in a worse depression.we need tax cuts and less spending to get through these times.

Maverick-Joe Lieberman is no Democrat not when John McSame and Lindsey Gramm are his best friends. He should lose his chairmanship of Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs it should be given to Hillary Clinton!

Drilling is not the answer,we need all of the above. drilling,solar,wind,tide nuclear.We need it now.

The democrats who let fannie and freddie run wild should be held accountable for this finacial mess Barny Frank, Nancy Peolsi,Chris Dodd
Now we find out Barney frank was having a realationship with one of the executives

“obamas coming out with his lame commercial about the S&L scandals of the 80’s trying to hit back on mccain”
In a few years we’ll be seeing commercials about Obama, Dodd, Frank, etc. regarding their connections to Fannie and Freddie.

First of all, it’s the fault of the Democrats and the Republicans for letting things get out of control. Republicans, inculding John McCain have been advocates of deregulation for years.
Phil Gramm, one of McCain’s head economic advisors was one of the architects of deregulation in the 90s. Gramm also said that we are going through a mental recession and that we’re a nation of whiners.
McCain wants to cut Medicare and Medicaid by $1.3 trillion leaving many senior citizens without healthcare coverage.
The economy is a real issue that many Americans care about rather than the slimeball attacks about Ayers and Wright..

“The economy is a real issue that many Americans care about rather than the slimeball attacks about Ayers and Wright..’
Legitimate character questions that need to be answered. What does his assocations say to his judgment? If he chooses to have these sort of sleazy characters as friends and confidants, what are his real plans for the direction of our country?

McSENILE WILL CRUMBLE IN THE RUMBLE TONIGHT!!
That old fool can’t “memorize” a bunch of mini-speeches like Palin did last night… He’s too old!
And without being able to use the “anger factor” (like last time) he won’t be able to focus, so he is going to look like the bumbling fool he really is – No Ideas – No Clue!!!
Get Er Done Obama!!!!

The Obama-Ayers Coverup [Update]
Will the media ask questions about the Obama-Ayers relationship and its beginnings before 1995, when Ayers helped arranged the hiring of Obama as head of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and maintained a close relationship of its board for years?
Here are some questions the media should be asking and did not ask throughout the long primary season, abdicating its responsibility. Imagine what would have happened if the media had fully vetted Obama and practiced journalism as they should have done.
1.When did Barack Obama first meet Bill Ayers? Was it in New York City? Under what circumstances? Was it at Cooper Union when Ayers was a graduate student there and Obama at Columbia? Was it at Columbia when Ayers was at the teachers’ college?
2.Did Ayers play any role in Obama coming to Chicago as an organizer in 1985? Did the Ayers influence the Woods Fund in any way to subsidize through the Gamaliel Foundation Obama’s job? (The Woods Fund was created by the family of the Safari Coal Company, a major supplier of Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO was Thomas Ayers.)
3.Did Ayers introduce Obama the organizer to his family, his father Tom and brother John? Did they involve Obama in the school reform movement they led in Chicago?
4.Did the Ayers family help Obama become a summer associate at Sidley Austen, the father’s company’s law firm?
5.Did Bernardine Dohrn know Michelle Robinson when they both worked at Sidley at the same time? Did she or Ayers introduce Michelle to Barack at Sidley?
6.Did Dohrn, who attended the University of Chicago Law School with Judson Miner, play any part in helping Obama get a job at the Davis Miner law firm?
UPDATE: It was 40 years ago today that William Ayers was arrested at the Democratic national convention — just like the “Recreate68″ extreme-left protestors at this convention:
It was forty years ago today that Barack Obama friend and political ally, and unrepentant terrorists, William Ayers was arrested while protesting the DNC proceedings. William Ayers set no bombs that day, but he was only working his way up from petty criminal to domestic terrorist. And of course this was long before Barack Obama and he struck up the friendship that would lead Ayers to launch Obama’s political career at his house.
Still, the McCain campaign would take this opportunity to remind voters that those responsible for the violence in 1968 have since been incorporated into the party they once protested, and have been revered even by the likes of Barack Obama, and this despite the failure, in the case of Ayers, to ever apologize for the violence he committed against the American people. (Read all)
The media had better start asking these questions, and demanding answers.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/28/the-obama-ayers-coverup/

Booooo – Jon Clown – as in Jon Klein – President of CNN…
CNN: “But Obama Ain’t Palling Around With Terrorists Now!!!”
Via CNN which does a ‘fact check‘ of the Obama – Ayers connection: Verdict, the two men do not have a close relationship now, and there is no proof that they were working together closely at any point “in the last three years.”
And what sources does CNN quote to determine that Palin et al. are lying completely about the Ayers – Obama connection?
The New York Times article cited by Palin concluded that “the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers.” Other publications, including the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-times, The New Yorker and The New Republic, have said that their reporting doesn’t support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship.
And again others did, right? Like the Wall Street Journal and National Review Online. I’m guessing that when you’re fact checking you take those reports into considerations right? Especially because they actually uncovered quite some evidence indicating that the relationship between Obama and Ayers was closer than Obama is willing to admit.
Right?
Nope. That was it. That was CNN’s ‘fact check.’ It simply repeated the conclusions of pro-Obama publications, and then concluded that the accusation is false.
Another point of significance: no one’s saying the two are close now. That’s not the point. It’s nice of CNN to try to spin this thing for all it’s worth, but the accusation is that the two had a professional relationship in the 1990s. That Obama served on the board of an education organization founded by Ayers, that the two attended meetings together, that Obama endorsed a book Ayers wrote about education, and that Ayers held a private fundraiser for Obama when the latter launched his political career.
It’s nice of CNN to swiftboat the matter, though.
Is there actually anyone falling for this ‘reporting’ and ‘fact checking’ or are the only ones accepting CNN’s words as ‘true’ those already in the tank for Obama?
CNN: But Obama Ain’t Palling Around With Terrorists Now!
http://poligazette.com/2008/10/06/cnn-but-obama-aint-paling-around-with-terrorists-now/

THE REPUBLICANS AND McCain / Palin SHOULD NOT FORCE AMERICANS TO DO OTHERWISE! McCAIN IS HIMSELF FULL OF SCANDALS , PALIN´S SCANDALS ARE EVEN MORE SEREOUS; SHE IS PART OF THE ALASKAN SECESION GROUPS, SO CALLED ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY THAT CALLED FOR SEPERATION FROM THE US. I MEAN THAT IS TREASON!!! SHE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE CURRENTLY UNDER CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION ! WITH NO ATOM OF FOREIGN POLICY AND SMARTNESS, DOES SHE WANNA LEAD THE NATION WITH LIPSTICKS ALONE?? I MEAN HILLARY COULD BE TRUSTED IN THAT SENCE NOT SERAH LIPSTICK!! GIVING UP THE FIGHT IN MICHIGAN ALONE TELLS YOU McCAIN CAN´T HANDLE THE PROBLEMS AND CHALLENGES AHEAD! THIS IS A TEST OF READINESS McCAIN COULDN´T PASS!! OBAMA SHOWS STRENGHT AND BRILLIANCE THE NATION NEEDS NOW WHILST McCAIN SHOWS WEAKNESS AND DOLLNESS!! I AM GONNA VOTE OBAMA / BIDEN !THEY ARE READY!

McCain and Palin supporters make it seem like their candidates are void of controversy. All they want to talk about are conspiracy theories that they found in their e-mail rather than real issues..
Obama’s associations have been hashed and rehashed during the primaries. You people make it seem like this is the first time anyone has mentioned Ayers, Rezko or Wright..
And if you want to talk about character, it’s obvious that McCain has none. If he had any integrity he would address real issues facing Americans rather than drudge up smear tactics. If he really had ideas to offer the American people, the main story would be about his economic plan rather than negative attacks.
The majority of polls indicate Obama is ahead because they feel he is the better candidate to handle the economy. Most of the battleground states have shifted to Obama as well.
So all of you Republicans who continue to bring up conspiracy theories about Obama are fortunately in the minority. The rest of the country is focused on substantive issues that really matter.

Quote: “The McCain/Palin campaign is heading down a dangerous path, especially now that so much is as stake.”
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It is Barack Hussein Obama himself who has followed a dangerous path all his life by cutting “sweet heart deals” with confirmed terrorists, drug dealers, and many other Chicago crooks – not to mention his association with the anti-American – nutcase pastor of his for 20+ years, and the crooks of Fannie Mae!
Obama Hussein Barack is a hypocrite capable of only one thing – to mislead the American people by his “pretty speeches” and endless rhetoric. America will be going down a dangerous path if they vote Marxist Barack Hussein Obama to be our Commander in Chief.
As far as I am concerned, although many consider the failing economy to be issue #1, I consider the issues “trust”, “character”, “integrity”, and “judgement to be the most important issues in choosing our next President. The economy will take care of itself with the leadership and sound judgement of a person we can trust in the White House – that person is John McCain! Obama has NOT demonstrated that he has either the “character” or the “judgement” to be our next Commander in Chief therefore he can NOT be trusted with either our national security or our economy!
Here is a must watch video by all morally sound American fellows who must know how dangerous the Marxist Fellow – Barack Hussein Obama will be for our country…
A VIDEO PORTRAIT OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036
REASONS NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA
http://www.donotvoteforobama.com/

Top News…
UPI (United Press International)
Pawlenty criticizes Obama for Ayers event
Published: Oct. 5, 2008 at 6:24 PM
WASHINGTON, Oct. 5 (UPI) — Republican presidential nominee John McCain’s supporters Sunday took aim at Democrat Barack Obama’s association with a “domestic terrorist.”
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who supports McCain, criticized Obama’s association with William Ayers, whose 1960s group, the Weathermen, committed bombings on the Pentagon, the U.S. Capitol and across the nation.
“Now Barack Obama at the time was 8 or 9 years old, or whatever, but that’s not the point, the point is this same individual, Bill Ayers, hosted some sort of political event at his home for Barack Obama when Barack was running for state Legislature in Illinois when he was well into his 30s,” Pawlenty said. “It goes to the issue of what kind of judgment would allow an unrepentant domestic terrorist to host a political event for you in his home, in the terrorist’s home.”
Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, an Obama supporter, said what the voters are concerned about is the economy, not negative attacks on a candidate.
“Well, you’ve seen a 26-year Senate veteran morph into an angry, desperate candidate in the last few weeks, especially in the last few days,” Brown said of McCain “And it just kind of makes me sad … that John McCain and Sarah Palin are resorting to these tactics.”
© 2008 United Press International, Inc.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/10/05/Pawlenty_criticizes_Obama_for_Ayers_event/UPI-65811223245446/

Pls. let him have the courage in the 90 mins to inform the “average American” who truly loves their country and who want a decent, normal life. Inform America that regardless of the hoardes of young people who are voting for Obama that we the “average American” knows nothing about him that the national media doesn’t want us to. He hailed from Chicago, after being in Kenya registered in school as a Muslim.(FACT)
He chose to go to a Christian church in Chicago for 20 years, whose message is very Anti-American and seems to wallow in hatred of anyone or anything white.(FACT)
Apparently in all the 20 years he sat there, he never heard these evil, racist diatribes against us. (FACT). Billy Ayers known to everyone in Hyde Park, except apparently to Obama as a terrorist who narrowly escaped conviction live a few blocks away from each other in the area of Hyde Park. Obama said he didn’t know about his past.(FACT)
On the same board in 1995, a board that gave Bill Aver’s group the Woods Funds 49 million so he can spread his filth. Not for English as Obama said, not for Math or Science. To engerize the students to be radically involved. (FACT)
He never helped the poor, black people of Chicago — No projects or housing he got for them. Nothing! (FACT)
He ran as a Senator by telling people who would lower taxes, he not only didn’t lower taxes he voted in the house to raise the taxes. (FACT)
Is there anything here that raises questions about Obama’s judgment or is this just another example of guilt by association?
I cannot believe that the “AVERAGE AMERICAN” will vote for this shady, corrupt, liberal who hailed from somewhere Hawaii, Kenya, New York, Chicago ????? Where I’m confused to get on the world stage and is going to ruin the “AVERAGE AMERICAN’s” life.

I believe McCain has officially moved from being out-of-touch to being out-of-his mind. Fortunately, Palin is mindless and doesn’t need to worry. Republicans ought to be ashamed of themselves right now. But, I know that that is impossible. The lust for power is too great and the desperation of it slipping away too strong…One thing is for sure…Republican ideology no longer exists. Winning is everything.

Jennifer wrote: “So all of you Republicans who continue to bring up conspiracy theories about Obama are fortunately in the minority. The rest of the country is focused on substantive issues that really matter”.
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Nice try but it ain’t working…Try a litle harder next time you left wing liberals try to divert the attention from Obama’s “character” issue.
The rest of the country does in fact consider “trust”, “character” and judgement” to be far more important issues than the “economy” in choosing our next President.
The economy will take care of itself with the “leadership” and “sound judgement” of a person we can trust in the White House – that person is John McCain! Obama has NOT demonstrated that he has either the “character” or the “judgement” to be our next Commander in Chief therefore he can NOT be trusted with either our national security or our economy!

Mr. McCain, in a speech Saturday, conceded Mr. Bush the victory but nothing more.
Showing flashes of bitterness, he said, “I will not take the low road to the highest office in the land.”
He added: “I want the presidency in the best way, not the worst way.”
McCain decided to do to Obama what his dear buddy did to him. When it was done to him it was the “low road” so what is he on now? The “low road” express?

Natasha,
You’re a great GOP soldier who I’m assuming just started paying attention to the presidential election. You see during the primaries Clinton and the media brought up all of this stuff already…You’re a few months behind the curve.
To see you work so hard drudging up slime is quite entertaining, too bad it’s all for nothing. The majority of the American people don’t care about that crap. Look at the polls, and you’ll see you and McCain are out of touch with reality…

We’re letting a man with his past or his current who the hell knows because no one is telling the people the truth hijack this country. Does anyone know what Kenya is like? The coup d’états they have, the dictators, they slit people’s throat in a heartbeat if they disagree. He went over to Kenya. Because he went to Harvard and Columbia that makes him okay? Have you all lost your minds? An SAS guy was captured in Iraq and tortured. The man who interrogated him went to Sandringham, the elite public school in the UK that alot of leaders go to. People are sometimes not what they seem! He knows too many unsavory people and nobody ever asks him to explain. He has followed this run for President with minute detail. He wrote two books so we can say that people should read them to know about him. Has anyone with half a brain read them? There is nothing in there of any real substance. He glosses over his past and doesn’t name names. His dates are fuzzy they don’t match up. He’s all smoke and mirrors for some reason. Good old George, Good old Bill etc etc we knew where they came from, regardless of their tenure in the White House we knew some stuff about them. This man is terrifying!!

There’s only one reason “the race is suddenly less about what you know than it is about who you once knew” – and that’s that ABC and other mainstream media sources are bereft of journalistic standards, and don’t condemn the smear tactics of the McSame campaign. They cheered the worst President in American history into office twice, and are now serving as spineless enablers for his heir apparent.

Janice wrote: “Can’t you see that McCains health plan is yet another one that favors the rich while a disaster for the low and middle class”
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Obama and all of you left-wing-liberals-socialists should move to Europe if you want “socialized medicine”. I come from Europe and know first hand the disaster that is called “socialized medicine”. That is exactly what Obama’s health plan is: SOCIALLIZED MEDICINE, which Obama sugarcoats to make it appealing to the American people, who will be getting the worse medical care that they can think off (that is if Obama is ever elected and Mr. Naive with Bela Pelosi ever find the money to implement their…socialized medicine plan).

I’m amazed the GOP would actually nominate someone who can’t prove he doesn’t have any ties to the Irish Republican Army.
Aren’t we at war with terrorists? And you guys nominated one?
No wonder he bypassed qualified potential running mates… in favor of someone from a secessionist party!
Just what is John McCain up to?

You know, there might just be something to this whole McCain-is-a-terrorist thing. It would explain why he tried to sink one of our aircraft carriers.

Still waiting Natasha…..
What horrible place did you live in Europe?
Also, Why are the Chicago REPUBLICANS who actually know and worked with both Obama and Ayers in various capacities over the years stating : “It’s ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It’s nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It’s so silly.”

BTW PAUL
I read one of your post yesterday about fannie and frddie not solicting loans.While I agree with that on a consumer level my understanding of how it works is They solicit banking institutions mortgage brokers etc and buy the loans

Natasha,
Oh you got your little article from the National Review huh? As reported on CNN, those radical programs you’re referring to was a program geared towards troubled African American youths, and another related to world affairs in association with the United Nations..Yeah troubled African American kids and the United Nations are sooo radical!!
Look it’s rather obvious you could care less about people losing their jobs and their savings, all you care about are the minutiae conspiracy theories of Obama. You continuously look the other way to anything that’s related to McCain and Palin.
Once again I applaud your efforts in to drudging up tabloid news, but once again the majority of the American people could care less..

I saw a report somewhere that the people who think O’bama (Yo mama) is Qualified, are the same ones who though OJ was innocent.

Yes I did as I am sure others did and NO Obama wasn’t under scrutiny it was quickly swept under the rug because Obama denounced the pastor ad said he barely knew Ayers..That my friend is not scrutiny that is a free pass from the mainstrem media….tammy
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This is an example of another individual who was not paying attention to the Democratic primaries…
In February and March, all anyone talked about was Rev. Wright. Every media outlet covered it day and night. Rezko and Ayers were not just shoved under the rug. There were alot of articles written about it then. Obama’s associations were even brought up in at least two debates when the race heated up between Clinton and Obama.
So for you to imply that the media covered up for Obama, couldn’t be further from the truth..
And go ahead and cheer for Palin all you want. She has no credibility whatsoever, all she does it repeat GOP talking points time and again. She has no original thoughts.
You GOP paid bloggers deserve a raise, you’re working your heart out trying to spread hateful lies!!!

BTW -
Can YOU imagine how unglued the GOP and press would have come if HILLARY had winked at the camera in a debate?

I have been listening to all the moronic socialist/liberals on these blogs, in the news and on TV and have decided the hell with it. You want socialism you just may get it and then all of the working Americans will just throw up their hands and quit working and paying taxes and go on the dole also. Then who will feed, clothes and give you morons a roof over your heads. Maybe we can beg France or China for money. If not without our taxes you will starve. Save your food stamps morons, you will need them, if there are any stores left with food in them.

reddog: “I read one of your post yesterday about fannie and frddie not solicting loans.While I agree with that on a consumer level my understanding of how it works is They solicit banking institutions mortgage brokers etc and buy the loans.”
reddog – I’m not sure exactly how Fannie works, but I think you’re right. Still, is that the root of this problem?
I think its more tied to the decision to remove the barriers between banks and investment banks (i.e., deregulation) and then the resulting private sector cowboy mentality toward increasing loans, decreasing the ratio of loan-to-cash reserves, etc.

Greg: “Maybe we can beg France or China for money.”
I know Paige already pinged on this one… but really Greg, where have you been?

Natasha – gotta tell you, I think Paige is on to something, because that last answer tripped my BS sensor, too.
If I lived in Europe in the past, and threw that out in one of these posts, and then someone asked specifically “where,” I’d respond with an answer about where.

Correction – I think our debt to China is about 1 trillion with the rest spread among European Nations.
This is sobering:
The national debt equates to $30,400 per person U.S. population, or $60,100 per head of the U.S. working population,[43] as of February 2008.

Paul read and research before you post. Obama went over to Kenya and met with Odinga. Look it up and learn to expand your mind instead of being like a cult follower with this man from nowhere?

Posted by: Paul | Oct 7, 2008 3:39:03 PM
I think its more tied to the decision to remove the barriers between banks and investment banks (i.e., deregulation) and then the resulting private sector cowboy mentality toward increasing loans, decreasing the ratio of loan-to-cash reserves, etc.
Posted by: Paul | Oct 7, 2008 3:39:03 PM
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Yes I know the barrires were removed but fannie and freddie were pushing these loans for incentive purposes they were the ones that were able to leverage at a much higher rate instead 10:1 they were able to go 100:1.The greed was defiantley on the part of the banks and had the barrier been there it would not effected it the way it did.I still feel clinton is more responsible for this as he signed the law into effect for the wall being removed,yes I know it was presented by the republicans who brought it up to him .But he also was the one to lower the standards for fannie and freddie.Now I guess the question comes down to would regulating fannie and freddie as propsed by McCain helped where the barrier would not of been needed???

I saw a report somewhere that the people who think O’bama (Yo mama) is Qualified, are the same ones who though OJ was innocent.

Kellogg – any of this sound familiar?
McCain doesn’t want peace. He’s more worried about giving bad people legitimacy by having the U.S. acknowledge they even exist, and anyone who doesn’t see his point is mistaken, or naive, or doesn’t understand…
Fortunately the Clinton Administration blew off McCain’s concerns, despite his decades of experience, and today the IRA bombs no more.

Natasha,
Don’t get testy because you’re getting called out on your BS….Like I stated multiple times, every faction of the media has talked about Rev Wright, Ayers and Rezko already!! You’ve done enough dumpster diving to know this already!!
The DOW Jones dropped almost 500 points today, the state of our economy is in turmoil and all you want to talk about are “associations.” There are BIGGER issues that the majority of the American people care about!! In case you haven’t noticed, people are losing their jobs, their homes and their savings.
Once again, look at the polls!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON’T CARE ABOUT THIS CRAP!!!

Mr Reality wrote:
“I saw a report somewhere that the people who think O’bama (Yo mama) is Qualified, are the same ones who though OJ was innocent”
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Yeap! And, check this out… The partisan Moron of CNN – Campbell Brownose family’s background (my previous comment).
I bet her dad is also supporting Obama!!
Marxist Obama and his “comrades” should all get on a train to “Siberia”. They can help the locals there “organize their community…hmmm, a siberian “gulag”, I meant to say.

I know regardless of who will be in office its going to be a rough road for awhile for all Americans

reddog – its kind of hard to “turn the page” on the economy when for most of us, its not just something we see on the evening news.
The losses are real, as is the anxiety on the part of those of us who haven’t lost anything yet, but worry we could.
Your guy is going to have to compete on this playing field. It does seem to us supporters of the other guy, watching Palin’s attack develop, that McCain is acknowledging he can’t compete here.

And reddog, I’ll grant you that your party has the tougher road here. Being the incumbent party when the economy is falling apart and all.
But, hey, we did try to spot you a few points. After all, we nominated a black guy.

John McCain is used to force the election of Barack Obama.
Barack Obama forced you to pay for Wall Street’s bailout.
Stop the extortion, blackmail, bribery, and division;
Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, and Cynthia McKinney.
“The two parties should be
almost identical, so that
the American people can
‘throw the rascals out’
at any election without
leading to any profound or
extensive shifts in policy.”
- Carol Quigley

reddog – I do appreciate you making counterarguments in such a civil and clearly well-intentioned manner.
Both sides of the political divide could use more supporters like you.

Mo Mowlam and the Blair government were responsible for the peace agreement with the IRA not to mention the timing of the Terrorist Act for the United Kingdom. Clinton was involved a few chats. He was not responsible for bringing anything to the table. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU START SPEWING OFF ABOUT WHAT THE DEMS DID AND DIDN’T DO. Obama is the same. He’s responsible for anything that goes right and for the bad stuff. He made a mistake, he didn’t know, he misjudged…yada, yada, yada. He voted to let sex offenders out and when questioned he said he had checked the wrong box. Look it up if you have a problem understanding the truth and what is fact!!

HR2082 Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
McCain claims to detest torture, yet voted against this bill because it contained the following:
Section 327 LIMITATION ON INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES.
(a) Limitation- No individual in the custody or under the effective control of an element of the intelligence community or instrumentality thereof, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to any treatment or technique of interrogation not authorized by the United States Army Field Manual on Human Intelligence Collector Operations.
(b) Instrumentality Defined- In this section, the term `instrumentality’, with respect to an element of the intelligence community, means a contractor or subcontractor at any tier of the element of the intelligence community.

Here is McCain on when to use Armed Forces – August 1, 2000:
LEHRER: .. when should the United States deploy its armed forces abroad, and what criteria should be used? Are you comfortable with the decision-making that would – that a Bush-Cheney- Powell triumvirate would make?
McCAIN: Yes. I’m extremely comfortable and basically it’s when American interests and values are threatened. And sometimes when our values are threatened, over time our interests can be threatened. I can’t make an argument to you that Kosovo posed an immediate threat to our national interest. But I can argue that it offended our values to a degree that if allowed to go unchecked, then unrestrained, once Milosevic started to do his ethnic cleansing, then sooner or later our interest would be threaten because that same kind of scenario would transpire in other places in Europe.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/july-dec00/mccain_8-1.html

BTW – talking about McCaon “vs” muslim extremist terrorists, there’s a lot more.
Such as:
Americans of Albanian heritage collected a million dollars in one evening for the presidential campaign of Republican Senator John McCain, said the Albanian American Civic League yesterday, the lobby group headed by former Congressman Joe DioGuardi. A reception for McCain was held January 22 at the Saint Regis Hotel in Manhatten, and the senator, who is now leading in the runoff for the Republican party candidacy in the November elections, cut his campaign in Florida by one day to attend this gathering.
“Even in 1998 when we had problems with Milosevic, McCain did everything that we asked of him to the benefit of the Albanian people, including arming the KLA”, announced DioGuardi. “We are American Albanians and we need a leader who will strengthen this country… We must support John McCain because he did everything we asked of him for Kosovo, from supporting the Kosovo Liberation Army to supporting the independence of Kosovo. Two years ago he spoke in Brussels and said that independence is the only solution”, concluded this former congressman who has been fighting for the independence of Kosovo and Metohija for more than twenty years.
And just who are the KLA that McCain is so fond of-
“The KLA – The Kosovo Liberation Army – is an Islamic terrorist group responsible for beheadings, torture, rape, burning down churches filled with Christians, and other atrocities. To this day, the KLA insurgency continues the systematic persecution and genocidal cleansing of Serbian civilians residing in Albania. The former leaders, enjoying life as high paid politicians in the Albania Government, are unapologetic for the crimes committed.”

No worries Natasha – we know which post are yours. No original thought, copied, pasted and stolen from every right-wing WEB site and newspaper you can find.

Wow.. it seems that when the rabid repubs post anti-Obama clippings about tenuous connections they feel it’s just fine, so people get to ‘know’ about it..
But when the anti-McSame postings show up with real connections about their man, they cry foul..
How typical. Can sling it, but can’t take it.

List of Barack Obama’s friends and roommates
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of_Barack_Obama's_friends_and_roommates

When will the MSM bring the World Anti-Communist League up. McCain being a board member of its American counterpart (the U.S. Council for World Freedom) has been totally neglected so far, maybe because it concerns such an explosive scandal that involves some dirty aspects of American foreign policies under Reagan and, earlier, Nixon.
If it would be addressed by the MSM, the Keating Five scandal would be peanuts in comparison. And that for many reasons, but certainly for this one: the League carried out political assassinations and formed contra-guerrilla movements in all areas of conflict, including in Afghanistan where it was headed by….
yes, by Osama Bin Laden.
The World Anti-Communist League was founded in Taiwan by Chiang Kai-shek, reverend Moon and Axis who were (Nazi and Japanese) war criminals.
The WACL was first used by Nixon to extend counter-insurgency methods into South-East Asia and Latin America. Seven heads of State participated in its meetings at that time. Later, it was revived in the Reagan era, becoming an instrument of the U.S. military industrial complex and the CIA during the Cold War.
As said, it carried out political assassinations and formed contra-guerrilla movements in all areas of conflict, including in Afghanistan where it was headed by Osama Bin Laden.
Hugo Banzer of Bolivia, Jorge Rafael Videla of Argentina and Alfredo Stroessner of Paraguay were all well-known members.
One of the most notorious criminals in Argentina and in the region was former General Guillermo Suarez Mason, an important figure in the World Anti-Communist League and a top Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) agent; he was influential during the Argentine military dictatorship (1976-1983) and one of the “experts” in the Dirty War, counter-insurgency and repression, proceeding mercilessly in these activities while he held the post of Chief of the Army First Corps between 1976 and 1980, a period which abounded in kidnappings, torture, deaths and disappearances in the clandestine detention centres of which he was in charge.
He also played a key role as an Argentine military death-squad advisor within the Central American saga and was a partner of John Negroponte’s, the then U.S. Ambassador in Honduras, in the signing of the criminal pacts and alliances that were made in Central America in the 1980’s.
It might be time to learn some more about McCain’s work for this scandalous organisation.
“People know me,” is McCain’s mantra these days.
No, they do not.

Quote: “[ECONOMY:]We do need any more whinny republicans to destroy it further. Go Home McCain/Palin.”
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Reply to “The One”:
We do not need a Congress controlled by the Democrats to destroy the country and the economy further. That is exactly what they did in the last two years that they – THE DEMOCRATS – had control in both the Senate and the House. What did the Democratic MORONS do for two years other than sitting around doing absolutely NOTHING – NADA….NADA! It is NOT the President that makes the laws – he just signs them! It is your freaking left-wing liberal representatives that have the lowest approval rating ever in the history of any Congress – even a lower approval rating than President Bush!
Go Home Obama bin Biden.

The 3:00 AM call to the White House…
If Obama answers that “3:00 AM call to the White House” he would forward it to…the United Nations!!!!
Is this what you want America?
Do not vote left-wing-liberal Barack Hussein Obama to be our next Commander in Chief. It took 3 statements by him (after speaking with his 300+ foreign policy advisors) to kind of condemn Russia (he still has not even come close to it) for invading a democratic and sovereign country – Georgia.
And, this while Senator McCain, Senator Clinton, our government, and ALL our allies – blasted Russia’s invasion of Georgia! Even China turned its back to Russia on the Georgia issue despite the fact that the Russian leaders – Medvedev (Putin’s hand picked puppet) and Putin himself were courting China’s support on the Georgia conflict! Ahaha!
Go McCain-Palin ’08 :-)

Good point about both McCain and Hillary blasting Russia.. both acted hastily and with a typical knee-jerk reaction that McCain himself has shown over and over again, while Obama continued to show his same calm rational qualities that are required in a true leader.. in that same interview:
POWELL: the fact of the matter is that you — you have to be very careful in a situation like this not just to leap to one side or the other until you’ve taken a good analysis of the whole situation.
This was something that might have been avoided if people had looked at the Russian troops that were stacked up, if people had realized that the Russians were serious about South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and if perhaps more guidance and suggestions had been given to President Saakashvili beyond those that he received, it might have been avoided.
But it wasn’t. It’s over. The Russians are the offenders right now. And we have to see that.
We cannot say to the Russians, “We are not going to allow the Georgians or Ukrainians or anyone else to start down the path toward NATO membership.” It’s not for the Russians to decide that.
But I think it is wise for us to look at the whole strategic situation and all of our equities before deciding how fast that should happen and whether it’s the time to do it right now.
The Russian Federation is not going to become the Soviet Union again. That movie failed at the box office. But they do have interests. And we have to think carefully about their interests.
So you have to treat Russia as a proud country that lost a lot of its pride some 15, 16 years ago, and it’s restored with a political leadership that is enormously popular in the country and with a level of wealth they’ve never had before, and with concerns about their near abroad, and treat them in a straightforward, business-like, objective way and not emotionally.
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Obama once again proves he is the man for the job, not McCain

CNN changing its tune???!!!
CNN Reporter: Obama – Ayers ‘Went Deeper Than Obama Willing to Admit’
(audio – see link below)
On Anderson’s Cooper 360 they did a major investigation into the relationship between Bill Ayers and Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee for president. Obama’s campaign tried to downplay the relationship by arguing that, in the words of Obama himself, “Ayers was just another guy in the neighborhood.” McCain’s campaign, on the other hand, and especially Sarah Palin, have tried to make the case that the relationship went further than Obama has been willing to admit thus far.
During Anderson Cooper’s show, CNN researchers concluded: “But the relationship between Obama and Ayers went much deeper, ran much longer, and was much more political than Obama said.”
As the CNN piece points out, claims that Bill Ayers is a ‘former radical’ are incorrect. He may not use force any longer, but he is still a radical. Only a few years ago he told the New York Times that he did not regret his past terrorist activities and that he believes he and his friends ’should have done more.’ Additionally, in April of 2008, Ayers published a blogposting in which he ranted against capitalism, describing it as a tool for oppression, thuggery and slavery.
“But the relationship between Obama and Ayers went much deeper, ran much longer, and was much more political than Obama said,” the CNN concluded about the relationship.
“One place where their paths repeatedly crossed according to a CNN review of board minutes and other records, was Chicago’s Annenberg Challenge project.” The report went on to say that “according to program participants and records Bill Ayers fought to bring the Annenberg grand to Chicago.” The Annenberg grand was “a $50 million grand” which would be used to “match locally raised funds to improve schools.”
Barack Obama was, CNN points out, “recruited as the chair” of Ayers’ organization that aimed to bring the Annenberg project to Chicago schools in order to ‘improve’ the system (more on the ‘improvements’ later). “For seven years, Bill Ayers and Obama, among many others, worked on funding for education projects including some experiments supported by Ayers.”
The piece was filed by Drew Griffin, for CNN’s Andersoon Cooper 360 show.
That was not all, CNN found. They also served “on the board” of a second organization, the Woods fund. “Among its recipients: Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity Church where Obama attended and a children and family justice center where Ayers’ wife worked.”
Lastly, “for Obama, the chairmanship of the $100 million Annenberg board helped volt him from southside Chicago lawyer to political player and that too has another connection to Bill Ayers.” In 1995, shortly after joining the Annenberg board, a female state senator appointed Barack Obama suddenly as her apparent political heir. “Where was that introduction made?” CNN wondered? Simple: “in the home of the 60s radicals Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.”
Again, as CNN pointed out in the piece, the Obama campaign pretends it does not matter in any way. A spokesman for Obama told Drew, on CNN, it is bad journalism to delve into the Ayers-Obama connection, and serves no other purpose than destroying Obama’s image. Drew responded by saying that Palmer, the state senator, told him that she had not organized the meeting in which she was to appoint Obama as her political heir “in any way.” Rather, it was organized for her, on her behalf, one could say. Furthermore, a doctor (who attended the meeting) said “it was indeed Barack Obama’s political coming out party and it was hosted by Bill Ayers.”
Watch it:
http://poligazette.com/2008/10/07/cnn-reporter-obama-ayers-went-deeper-than-obama-willing-to-admit/

More McCain terrorist support:
From a Oct 07 2008 article by the Associated Press
McCain served on the advisory board to the U.S. chapter of the World Anti-Communist League, the U.S. Council for World Freedom, which has aided rebels trying to overthrow the government of Nicaragua and landing it in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair. The group was also in legal trouble with the IRS, which revoked the charitable organization’s tax exemption.
In 1983 and 1984 for example, columnist Jack Anderson linked the league’s Latin American affiliate to death squad political assassinations.
The Latin American affiliate was kicked out of the league. At the time, Singlaub told the columnist the Latin American affiliate had “knowingly promoted pro-Nazi groups” and was “virulently anti-Semitic”. “That was putting it mildly,” Anderson wrote in a Sept. 11, 1984, column on alleged death squad murders, an article that appeared two months before the U.S. election day.
n McCain’s case, he was a House member and a board member of Singlaub’s council he voted for military assistance to the Nicaraguan Contras, a CIA-organized guerrilla force. In 1984, Congress cut off military assistance to the rebels.
The White House-directed network’s covert arms shipments, financed in part by the Reagan administration’s secret arms sales to Iran, exploded into the Iran-Contra affair in November, 1986. The scandal proved to be the undoing of Singlaub’s council.
McCain has said he resigned from the council in 1984 and asked in 1986 to have his name removed from the group’s letterhead; “I didn’t know whether (the group’s activity) was legal or illegal, but I didn’t think I wanted to be associated with them,” McCain said in a 1986 newspaper interview.
“That’s a surprise to me,” Singlaub said. “This is the first time I’ve ever heard that. There may have been someone in his office communicating with our office.”
McCain’s office produced two letters from 1984 and 1986 to back his account. The dates on the resignation letters in 1984 and May 1986 coincided with McCain election campaigns and increasingly critical public scrutiny of the World Anti-Communist League.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MCCAIN_IRAN_CONTRA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-10-07-14-30-38

No weapon forged against you [ Barack Obama] will prevail, and you [ Barack Obama] will refute every tongue that accuses you [ Barack Obama] . This is the heritage of the servants [ Barack Obama] of the LORD, and this is their [ Barack Obama] vindication from me,” declares the LORD. – Isaiah 54:17
” I [ God ] will send my terror ahead of you [ Barack Obama] and throw into confusion every nation you [ Barack Obama] encounter. I [ God ] will make all your [ Barack Obama] enemies turn their backs and run.” – Exodus 23:27
The Lord will rescue me [ Barack Obama] from every evil attack and will bring me [ Barack Obama] safely to his heavenly kingdom. – 2 Timothy 4:18
11 For he will command his angels concerning you [ Barack Obama] to guard you [ Barack Obama ] in all your ways; 12 they will lift you [ Barack Obama ] up in their hands, so that you [ Barack Obama ] will not strike your [his] foot against a stone. 13 You [ Barack Obama ] will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you [ Barack Obama ] will trample the great lion and the serpent. – Psalm 91:11-13
I have given you [ Barack Obama ] authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you [ Barack Obama ]. – Luke 10:19
It’s time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It’s time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children.It’s time for REAL change in Washington, it’s time to elect Barack Obama for president !
Obama-Biden are the wiser and stronger team to solve the crucial challenges we have in this nation and abroad !
Amen.

McCain lives in a make believe world and exhibits horrific judgement at every turn.
Obama is clearly in command of the facts.
I’d like to see some intelligence in the WH and less phony slogans -as we’ve seen from the McCain/Palin show.
Obama wins. Obviously.

Obama lives in a make believe world and exhibits horrific judgement at every turn.
McCain is clearly in command of the facts.
I’d like to see some intelligence in the WH and less phony slogans -as we’ve seen from the Obama/Biden show.
McCain wins. Obviously.

This subject always coming out of Sarah Palin’s mouth just shows us that she does not give a dawn about helping understand how to fix the economy…she does not know anything that will help lead this country…she does not care about what Americans are going through during this financial crisis…
She tells Joe Biden to stop talking about the past, but all she talks about is what some man did in the 60′s when Obama was 8 years old. Palin gets stupider by the day…as Americans are hurting worse than they have in over 40 years.
Americans look stupid for listening to and printing this backward woman’s idiot comments…McCain needs to put a muzzle on this lipstick wearing pit bully…
Our Country is in crisis and we hear about Palin’s dumb comments…it is our country that is in trouble…someone please help this dummy understand what is going on….
I am sorry, but Palin is really starting to get on my nerves.
She needs to try to explain John McCain unforgivable behavior regarding Keating, but she cannot.
http://www.keatingeconomics.com/
We may need a http://www.keatingeconomics.com for dummies…for Sarah Palin…