The Note: Palin Delivers — But Too Late for McCain?

* If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you’re ‘exotic, different.’
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.
* If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.
* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.
* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive and next in line behind a man in his eighth decade.
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and then left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a true Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America ‘s.
* If your husband is nicknamed ‘First Dude’, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
ok – now I get it…. or do I?

too late? I thought the election is a month away?

Okay, I am convinced that the polls are fixed. Right after the debate a poll was taken (Fox) who did better Biden or Palin and the poll reflected Palin 85% and Biden 17%. And, this morning many of the polls reflect just the opposite.

Joe Biden’s job as Vice President is to sit (according to Biden) “right there” at all of the meetings and give the inexperienced, wet behind the ears Obama advice. Palin like most Americans is tried of this type of government. She wants government to go back to the old saying “say what you mean, and mean what you say”. Palin understands our energy needs; she has run (executive experience) a huge State. Obama is a community organizer that left his charge Chicago, Illinois with the most crime in the nation.

Former Clinton administration press secretary Mike McCurry:
“Joe scored more points, she won more hearts.”
“She’s reassuring. People get a feel for her.”
“She was more confident, her head was in a better place

Our country is hurting, it has problems and both parties are to blame because we have people in these parties that do not have their hearts in the right place. The choice is clear. If you want someone that has put “America first”, actually fought for our country, a “maverick” that has chosen another maverick (it shouldn’t matter that she is a female) to put America back on track, you select John McCain-Sarah Palin. If you want more of the same, Biden whispering into the ear of Obama, more taxes, less defense, someone waving a “white flag” America gives up, and socialism, then vote for Barack Obama-Joe Biden.
No party affiliation, just a concerned American

Joe Biden won the debate. He answered each and every question and to the point. Joe really impressed me. On the other hand, Palin, did not answer most of her questions and some of her answers were not sensible or has no clarity. She was reading from que cards which was embarrassing. Palin showed to the whole world that she is incompetent for the job.

Joe Biden won the debate. He answered each and every question and to the point. Joe really impressed me. On the other hand, Palin, did not answer most of her questions and some of her answers were not sensible or has no clarity. She was reading from que cards which was embarrassing. Palin showed to the whole world that she is incompetent for the job.
Posted by: Shiny | Oct 3, 2008 9:11:18 AM
Yes your right he answered the questions but with LIES LIES AND MORE LIES

I did not appreciate her EAST COAST PEOPLE REMARK,She has no Idea about East Coast people her first time to NY last week, this woman is so out of touch with us its not funny she needs to go back to Alaska!

reddog0216 – what you are saying is that the “Fox” poll might be correct? I watched Fox last night because I had to use the computer. Biden impressed me of just more of the same…pork bills, voting for bills that you do not approve of and so forth. He will be the man whispering into Obama’s ear.

I watched the debate last night, very eagerly and attentively. Both nominees did a good job, however Biden delivered facts and delivered the Obama message. Biden answered the questions and Palin side stepped the facts and did not answer questions. She attempted to focus the debate on topics she was comfortable with, but ended up repeating phrases over and over… nothing new.
We need change!
I wrote a long blog entry this morning about the debates, and now what?
http://www.congratstothewinners.com/2008/10/now-what-after-vp-debate.html

Please keep investigating this man.
Obama is running for President of our country, not for a “public speaker” position.
They have been looking for dirt on Obama for 2 years and find nothing to investigate.
Now Palin has been avoiding an investigation since Mccain picked her
And the “public speaker” charge, Palin is so scripted she looks like a wind-up wink doll.

Ann,
The fox poll consist of voters who voted on line. Not an accurate poll b/c majority of those who watch and visit the foxnews site are conservatives. The polls taken by CNN and CBS are actually polls not online polls.
CNN: Biden 51 Palin 36
CBS: Biden 46 Palin 24

REDDOG
Go to factcheck.com
Posted by: angie | Oct 3, 2008 9:23:46 AM
I have and whats your point that Biden lied lied lied

reddog0216 – what you are saying is that the “Fox” poll might be correct? I watched Fox last night because I had to use the computer. Biden impressed me of just more of the same…pork bills, voting for bills that you do not approve of and so forth. He will be the man whispering into Obama’s ear.
Posted by: Ann | Oct 3, 2008 9:18:43 AM
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I am saying the media is full of left wing idiots that spin the facts and dismiss the truth and yes I believe sarah did a great job

Palin did her JOB —-learned well from craming for this debate.She did NOT answer the questions only the ones she had knowledge on.Some of the things she got wrong.OH yes she is pretty but I want some one who know what the hell they are doing…This couple needs a good overhaul. MC Cain and Palin are not right for this country, will be more of the same ole crap.Sorry I see what this crap has done by looking at this nation NOW…

Palin did wonderful. She was natural, close, refreshing, warm, comfortable, spoke fluently without stammering like Obama. She has a great potential to develop. She adressed to American people.
Biden spoke like if he were at the Senate: boring, nervous, irritated, cold. The tyical Washington lawyer speech we´ve heard for years. How can a man that has worked on politics his whole life say he understand people´s problems?
Biden = the past
Palin = the future

With the troubles this nation has been going through, there is no time to bring in someone like Palin, she is incompetent and a gimmick for the republicans, their playing a dead hand, and their only hope is that voters just like Palin because she’s a hockey mom, the last 7+ years have been a nightmare…

too late? I thought the election is a month away?
Posted by: geevill | Oct 3, 2008 9:03:10 AM
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Early votes have already begun. Registration has increased increadibly and it is because people have made up their minds that they want change and are willing to do what they did not do in the past, VOTE.
Yesterday was a HUGE dissapointment to both. To Republicans that hoped to see Joe Biden treat Sarah Palin as an equal so that they could later say he was abusive and un-gentleman-like.
And to Democrats who hoped Sarah would, well be herself.
I was upset that Joe did not call her out for lying about the pipeline “we are building” but that ia allright, I understand he knows Sarah and John would have shamelessly use the gender card if he did. I liked the moderator MUCH MORE than the one on the PResidential debate. NOW THAT’S A WOMANT THAT MAKES ME PROUD OF SAYING I’M A WOMAN TOO!

We are Power and Controls little Honey Bees.
They are dying off. Why?
Call your house rep. and Vote NO to collecting their Honey.(money)
Vote Independant.
We are Power and Controls little Honey Bees.
They are dying off. Why?
Call your house rep. and Vote NO to collecting their Honey.(money)
Vote Independant.

As a woman, I’m proud of her performance, whether or not I agree with her political opinions.
Posted by: Andrea | Oct 3, 2008 9:38:26 AM
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Damn right she was performing.

We are Power and Controls little Honey Bees.
They are dying off. Why?
Call your house rep. and Vote NO to collecting their Honey.(money)
Vote Independant.
We are Power and Controls little Honey Bees.
They are dying off. Why?
Call your house rep. and Vote NO to collecting their Honey.(money)
Vote Independant.
Republican only except Pork.
They will blame everyone, but Rick Davis.
Remember him. McCcains Advisor, who was STILL recieveing Middle Americans Money, until last Month.
McCains Top Advisor, who was helping to raise McCains Funds.
Say NO to the Bailout for Rick Davis.
Say NO to the Bailout for Rick Davis.

reddog0216-The focus group on FOX (which was, strangely enough, sponsored by Budweiser, owned by Anheuser-Busch, of which Cindy McCain’s Hensley company is the third largest distributor). This probably explains why the Fox numbers were so skewed.

It must drive most of you crazy when she does well you beat her up.she does poor you beat her up.It is kinda sad but politics are performances and while she did not answer evey question at least she did not lie lie lie like biden

Palins’ glasses cost over $2000, I had to go and by mine at discount, if I pay $70 that’s too much, she is not for the avarage person, and I’m a working mom…

reddog0216-The focus group on FOX (which was, strangely enough, sponsored by Budweiser, owned by Anheuser-Busch, of which Cindy McCain’s Hensley company is the third largest distributor). This probably explains why the Fox numbers were so skewed.
Posted by: Paige | Oct 3, 2008 9:47:42 AM
Oh, I thought it was the left winged owned media that skewed the numbers thank you for explaining it to me

Of note, I gurantee McCain camp will not let her do anymore interviews, so that she does not say anything stupid to mess up the tiny mommentum she gained because of the debates.
Posted by: cynthia | Oct 3, 2008 9:39:53 AM
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Cynthia, I like what you say. But I have to clarify something we let them condition us in:
YOU DON’T WIN JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T SUCK.
Don’t let them further lower our standards.
She was disrespectful to Joe and he had to stand in the side and smile. WHY? because that’s what us women do… Come on ladies FESS UP lol… we bark and get on their face because we know there’s nothing they can do about it. I disliked her sarcastic tone very much and I know other women are not fans of that either. But I am proud to say Joe let it slide for what matters most and didn’t take her bait.
I did love THIS SHE SAID:
“We’re tired of the old politics as usual. And that’s why, with all due respect, I do respect your years in the U.S. Senate, but I think Americans are craving something new and different and that new energy and that new commitment that’s going to come with reform.”

reddog0216: ” at least she did not lie lie lie like biden”
Her words are public record and (finally) the media is actually doing some fact checking work. She lied just as much as Biden – amazing considering how much less she actually said (hard to lie repeating Maverick and sloganeering).

Imagine Palin speaking to foreign leaders with a wink and “you betch ya howdy doody” She is good, but not qualified. She obviously was coached pretty well, but couldn’t answer a direct question.

Imagine Palin speaking to foreign leaders with a wink and “you betch ya howdy doody” She is good, but not qualified. She obviously was coached pretty well, but couldn’t answer a direct question.
Posted by: Janet | Oct 3, 2008 9:57:44 AM
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so was bush! Isn’t it exciting?! we get to re-live our past?!

Paige ,
Let me ask you something do you actually listen to what is said,She said I do not believe it is all man made.Nor do I .I am sorry well before man cane along there was a thing called the Ice age Maybe you have heard of it? The earth has continued to warm up thank god since then.The economic turbulence you refer to is without a doubt man made I think they call them democrats,Who caused the housing issues in america

Why does Palin feel the need to wink at the american people If something happens to McCain, God forbid, I don’t want a President winking at me with a smile as she delivers her message that she has practiced. She can do whatever she likes as a woman representing her own familiy. But she cannot represent the United States of American as a President. The world is watching and will think of her as a woman with a skirt instead of a President with intelligence.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOWER THE STANDARDS FOR MORTGAGES
Clinton Administration Changes of 1995
In early 1993 President Clinton proposed new regulations for the CRA which would increase access to mortgage credit for inner city and distressed rural communities.[7] The new rules went into effect on January 31, 1995 and featured: requiring numerical assessments to get a satisfactory CRA rating; using federal home-loan data broken down by neighborhood, income group, and race; encouraging community groups to complain when banks were not loaning enough to specified neighborhood, income group, and race; allowing community groups that marketed loans to targeted groups to collect a fee from the banks.[5]
In a 1995 congressional hearing on proposed changes to regulation of the Community Reinvestment Act William A. Niskanen, chair of the Cato Institute, criticized the proposals for political favoritism in allocating credit, micromanagement by regulators and concerns about bank losses and soundness. He said it would be very costly to the economy and the banking system and that the primary long term effect would be to contract the banking system. He recommended congress repeal the Act.[8]
Responding to arguments that CRA would lower bank profitability, a 1997 research paper by economists at the Federal Reserve found that “[CRA] lenders active in lower-income neighborhoods and with lower-income borrowers appear to be as profitable as other mortgage-oriented commercial banks”.[9]
According to a United States Department of the Treasury study of lending trends in 305 U.S. cities between 1993 and 1998, 467 billion dollars in mortgage credit flowed from CRA-covered lenders to CRA-eligible borrowers. The number of CRA mortgage loans increased by 39 percent. Other loans increased by only 17 percent.[10

As an objective observer with no voting rights in the USA, I find it alarming that that the most powerful nation on the planet could even consider Ms Palin as a contender for any office, never mind that of VP. She appears to know only what she’s had crammed into her head, and when she doesn’t know she just…smiles, winks, changes the subject. Imagine her sitting down with Putin, say, or imagine her ‘aw shucks’ manner making sense in Middle East negotiations. I can’t even imagine her sitting with a medioctrity like Gordon Brown. She is a cheerleader, and aside from a few thought she’s had drummed into her by McCain’s coaches, she is utterly lost and empty. This is a shame and embarrassment for a country that could lead the world….

reddog0216 Lets go back to the ice age argument. When was the last ice age? How old does Palin think earth is?

reddog0216: “Biden out and out lied knowing the truth she may of mispoke on some granted Biden lied time and time again”
Beg all you like, but given the McCain campaign’s track record of lying you will have to provide actual examples before anyone is likely to believe you. Both canidates had lies of the “mispoke” type. For example, Biden said McCain voted against easing the bankruptcy law to ease the foreclosure crisis, when in fact McCain merely opposed the bill and never showed up to vote (his well-worn version of the “present” vote in IL). Or Palin said, “we’re now down to presurge numbers in Iraq” she’s actually wrong – we still have more boots on the ground than before the surge started.
So feel free to cite the many lies of Biden. You have no credibility to just offer your personal assessment and expect anyone to believe it.

Governor Palin likes to refer to Joe Six Pack – but what does respect for the common man really mean? ……………
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/03/respecting-joe-six-pack/

Palin used every tactic she learned as a video journalism major.
Unfortunately, she didn’t have the facts right.
She was adamant that she knew what the Afghanistan general said about the surge. She said we would find out today that she was correct.
We now learn that…
1) She didn’t know the general’s name.
2) Biden was right and Palin was wrong about the general’s surge statement.

Palin’s “folksey” charm was an embarressment and an insult to anyone who lived/lives in small towns across America as I did. Her refusal to answer questions asked in the debate showed two things: total disrespect for a respectful debate forum and diversionary tactics to hide her lack of knowledge on issues/policies and world events. I did not expect her to know as much as Biden, but reciting “talking points” with sarcastic confidence does not show any depth of knowledge or give me any comfort in knowing she is a “heart-beat away” from becoming president. McCain/Palin must think “small town America” is too STUPID to vote based on policies, isssues, and candidate qualifications if they have to continue the “Beverly Hillbillies” sideshow in order to gain votes. There are a lot of very intelligent people who live in small towns that want serious answers to serious problems…not a “wink” and a “awe-shucks”.

Oh please! She didn’t “Deliver”. What debate were you watching? She didn’t answer the questions posed to her. She looked scared and rehearsed. The bar you set for her was so low, that she couldn’t possibley fail. Sheesh! Not only do we need a change in the White House. We need a change in our Fourth Estate. Hey kids, start a revolution in being a thinking press corp again and revive the Fourth Estate. Which used to be a shining example for the world.

Vanessa:
The FOX poll was done by text-messaging.
You know….on cell phones?? Those people that everyone keeps saying are not reflected in any of the polls because they polls only call “land lines,” so they’re not really a “true sample??”
From what I understand, the FOX text-message (cell phone) poll had over 1 million votes, and those were the results.

In 2002 there was an inter-agency review of the effectiveness of the 1995 regulatory changes to the Community Reinvestment Act and new proposals were considered.[5] The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, and the Office of the Controller of the Currency put new regulations into effect September of 2005.[11] The regulations were opposed by a contingent of Democrats because the action “undercuts the statutory purpose of the Act for institutions to meet the needs of low and moderate-income persons and communities by OTS.”[12]
The regulations included less restrictive new definitions of “small” and “intermediate small” banks.[2] “Intermediate small banks” were defined as banks with assets of less than $1 billion, but allows banks to opt for examination as a large bank.[11] Currently banks with assets greater than $1.061 billion have their CRA performance evaluated according to lending, investment and service tests. The agencies use the Consumer Price Index to adjust the asset size thresholds for small and large institutions annually.[

These posts are hilarious.
They sound just like the ones after Palin’s speech at the Convention.
Everyone expected her to fall on her face then just as they did last night, and she didn’t, either time.
Now they have to scramble for ways to justify their opinions, just like Saturday Night Live has to find a new whipping boy for this week.

The Corrupt use Double Talk. Opposite wording.
Who wanted the SUGAR, Those who Voted agaist the RESCUE FO MIDDLE AMERICANS.
Sounds like another ‘RICK DAVIS SCAM’.
We are Power and Controls little Honey Bees.
They are dying off. Why? Mico-Grnerators.
How do the Insects SEE? Ask Power and Controls Military officials, who develope Military Equipment.
Call your house rep. and Vote NO to collecting their Honey.(money)
Vote Independant.
We are Power and Controls little Honey Bees.
They are dying off. Why?
Call your house rep. and Vote NO to collecting their Honey.(money)
Vote Independant.
Republican only except Pork.
They will blame everyone, but Rick Davis.
Remember him. McCcains Advisor, who was STILL recieveing Middle Americans Money, until last Month.
McCains Top Advisor, who was helping to raise McCains Funds.
If you Vote for Corrupt Wallstreet, Then yes, You will probably vote for McCains best fried Rick Davis, who continued to Steal the American Dream, While McCain was laughing, behind the Curtin. Rick Davis pays for Corrupt Paperwork.
Say NO to the Bailout for Rick Davis.
Say NO to the Bailout for Rick Davis.
Vote NO for McCains Pork
Vote NO for Bailing out McCcains advisor , Rick Davis.
Watch CNN and MSNBC for Truth and Justic
McCains Afgan War will cost over 4Billion more dollars from Middle America.

reddog0216: “Ahh yes it does have everything to do with it he opened the door and let them in McCain tried to close the door and the democrats blocked it”
Of course it did. It’s all Clinton’s fault. Poor, oppressed Republicans with full control of the Administration and a rubberstamp Congress had NOTHING to do with it. The buck never stops with the GOP, eh?
Do you even believe yourself anymore?

It is said to read some of these blogs who said she exceeded expectations. We are talking about a candidate for VP. The bar should be high and she did not touch it with a 10 foot pole standing on a 10 foot ladder. Everytime she wink and said Maverick it was crazy. Her and Biden was in 2 different debates. She was acting like she was on a TV show for entertainment. She had no substance at all. I am football mom and that was scary.

The Corrupt use Double Talk. Opposite wording.
Who wanted the SUGAR, Those who Voted agaist the RESCUE FO MIDDLE AMERICANS.
Sounds like another ‘RICK DAVIS SCAM’.
We are Power and Controls little Honey Bees.
They are dying off. Why? Mico-Grnerators.
How do the Insects SEE? Ask Power and Controls Military officials, who develope Military Equipment.
Call your house rep. and Vote NO to collecting their Honey.(money)
Vote Independant.
We are Power and Controls little Honey Bees.
They are dying off. Why?
Call your house rep. and Vote NO to collecting their Honey.(money)
Vote Independant.
Republican only except Pork.
They will blame everyone, but Rick Davis.
Remember him. McCcains Advisor, who was STILL recieveing Middle Americans Money, until last Month.
McCains Top Advisor, who was helping to raise McCains Funds.
If you Vote for Corrupt Wallstreet, Then yes, You will probably vote for McCains best fried Rick Davis, who continued to Steal the American Dream, While McCain was laughing, behind the Curtin. Rick Davis pays for Corrupt Paperwork.
Say NO to the Bailout for Rick Davis.
Say NO to the Bailout for Rick Davis.
Vote NO for McCains Pork
Vote NO for Bailing out McCcains advisor , Rick Davis.
Watch CNN and MSNBC for Truth and Justic
McCains Afgan War will cost over 4Billion more dollars from Middle America.
They are already Trying to Pass McCains Nuclear Plan.
What happened to ALTERNITIVE ENERGIES?
McCain and Rick Davis are Liers.
Say No to INVISIBLE LIGHT Robots.
Say No to Military Bee Standards
Say No to Micro-Generators
Say No To Re-Elections

Palin was not the typical politician that we are so tired of. She was straight to the point.
Posted by: Carrie | Oct 3, 2008 11:01:30 AM
Carrie, what point was that. I didn’t hear a clear message how McCain would be different from Bush. I only heard talking points and she didn’t always answer the question. I’ll admit I got bored towards the end and was only half listening.

And Democrats ALWAYS tell the truth???
We all know that politicians lie…that is when you look at character and who they are and what they stand for. Smart voters will sift through everything and then find out that the McCain/Palin ticket is definitely the right choice.
Only the blinded will vote against them.

the morning after Palin stll lingers on my mind, like she talked directly to me, in warm, simple and honest way.
McCain/ Palin 08

Huh, I thought at least one Republican would take a shot at explaining what the heck Palin was saying.
Maybe this is an acknowledgement they didn’t get it, either?

today: “One can spin this anyway possible…”
Forget the spin. Someone just explain to me what she was trying to say.
To me, it sounded like her answers were each a jumble of different talking points, in which the end of her answer didn’t even seem consistent with the beginning.
If that’s too harsh, someone give me some points they felt they heard her make?

As an independent voter, I view the upcoming election as a reversal.
Whichever party wins and is in power will be leading during the worst economic depression since the great depression.
Right now, that looks like the Democrats stand to keep control of both houses of Congress and possibly get control of the White House.
Understand this: The heralded bailout is just a temporary fix. Borrowing $850 billion to give to Wall Street from the American taxpayers is nothing more than election year politics.
The economic policy failures of the Nixon/Ford years were blamed on Jimmy Carter.
The policy failures of the Reagan years were blamed on George H. W. Bush.
The policy failures of the George W. Bush years will be blamed on the next President.
Whoever is elected will not avert the coming disaster and will take the blame for what happens.

SandyB: “Alaska is our only state that deals on a daily basis with TWO international borders, one friendly (Canada), one uncertain (Russia). That uncertainty in my book definitely means that the Governor and State of Alaska deal on a day-to-day basis with the possibility, however remote, of foreign invasion.”
You’re kidding, right?
Okay, and assuming you aren’t too worried about a Canadian invasion, how exactly does Palin prepare Alaska for those pesky Russians?

to Obama pipers/posters on hire : If you dont like Sarah, you always have B Hussein OBama to cling to and vote for, just try to examine closely your candidate and see if really qualifies to run for Pres. You may have buyers remorse later
McCain/ Palin 08

today: “Stunning how she handled every question…”
I agree. Yesterday I posted here I thought she would do quite well. I was stunned by her incoherence.

“Sarah Palin Was Sensational Tonight … I Think She Wiped Up The Floor With Joe Biden”
Joe you are so emotional baby!
Biden cried….Governor Palin did not.

The other bit about Palin is there seems to be no hatred in her. No sheathing resentment that is the main spring of the democratic party today.
As A life long democrat, I am through with the hatred that is now the primary motivator of democrats. Look at the down on everything sarcasm that passes as political dialog from democrats.
I am extremely hopeful that America is turning toward honest, upbeat, working people. The “Dirty Jobs” guy is that sort of working person. We want to know how people work. It is amazingly uplifting to come in contact with people like that. Palin is one of those people.

Carrie: “Only the blinded will vote against them.”
Yup, no cult of personality impervious to fact or reason around Palin. No siree.
Even Obama doesn’t get such slavish devotion – recall the beating he took from ‘his’ Left supporters when he pragmatically voted for the (better than nothing) FISA bill and didn’t ax the Patriot Act.
This is politics, selecting leaders to run the biggest bureaucracy in the world. Not a religion. Snap out of it.

Ah, HP is here, maybe she can help me.
HP, can you explain to me a single Palin answer?

The BOTS are busy working for Slick Rick THE POVERTY PIMP! OH BABY!
McCain Office Break-In… Computer Stolen Before Speech
Vandals broke into the McCain-Palin Campaign headquarters in Independence Missouri on Thursday before a speech by John McCain at the Independence Truman Library.
KMOV reported on the latest crime against a GOP office.
The Republican Party is tightening security at four Missouri phone banks after a break-in and theft of a laptop at one of the offices.
Police in the Kansas City suburb of Independence said Thursday that a rock was thrown through a window to gain entry to the McCain/Victory Office. A campaign staffer’s laptop and satchel were taken between 10 p.m. Tuesday and 6 a.m. Wednesday.
The theft took place in the hours before GOP presidential nominee John McCain’s speech Wednesday at the Truman Presidential Library and Museum in Independence, Truman’s hometown.
Missouri Republican Party spokeswoman Tina Hervey said 24-hour security is being established at GOP offices in St. Louis, Independence, St. Charles and Springfield.

There is a craving in America for an uplifting message. Barack Obama is a great orator – OK, people say like Biden that he is a plagiarist. I am not concerned about that so much as that his message is a tonic we all need. The American psyche has been in a down hill spiral.
Palin is has that same uplifting message and she has executive experience. Her points about knowing how to manage energy using an “all of the above” strategy was arguably her best point.
I think it goes back to the American positive personality of the hard working, honest, go for it, American worker. We have a problem and we go at it with everything. That is a hugely positive message.

Huh, I guess even Palin supporters couldn’t understand her ramblings.
But gosh darn it, didn’t she look cute and folksy? You betcha! (wink, wink)
Stunning to see this happen to the GOP.

Is this a question poll for the American Public or is it just another media intake on the debates?
This entire article seemed to put Sarah Palin down as if she was a lower class or just plain “folksy”? There is nothing wrong with being a Normal American i.e. a Hockey Mom or Joe six-pack! It is Media standards that have stooped to an all time low. Maybe they should read what the public thinks about them?
Sarah Palin was fantastic, as a Democrat supporting and voting for John McCain, because of his integrity, honor and love of this country. I believe he will do what us “Middle Class” people want him to do, and that is to end the corruption in government. I personally DO NOT want this Bail out under any circumstance. But IF it passes, I hope those people getting monies $150billion in “PORK” will be looked into. We know following the money is the way to go. Then let the chips fall where they may. Because most of us know whose hands will be dirty.
With that said we had a debate party at my home last night and we saw it as another “Gotcha” moment for the McCain side. We’ve been doing a lot of research on issues that are hot topics that Sarah Palin spoke about, economy, energy, the election and who will be running for other seats in the senate etc…
What I would like to know is why has the media been so focused on NON issues about the election instead of the things we want to hear?
Examples of “Opinion” on this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27001026/
My Opinon: This one has not been reported ENOUGH! We know we do not want Government to get involved in our health period!
“BIDEN: “As a matter of fact, John recently wrote an article in a major magazine saying that he wants to do for the health care industry — deregulate it and let the free market move — like he did for the banking industry.”
THE FACTS: Biden and Obama have been perpetuating this distortion of what McCain wrote in an article for the American Academy of Actuaries. McCain, laying out his health plan, only referred to deregulation when saying people should be allowed to buy health insurance across state lines. In that context, he wrote: “Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.”
My Opinon: You would be surprised how many people understand the part of Alaska that she wants to drill; and think the Polar Bears will be just fine. Who got the “PORK” money to do the “Research” on the Polar Bears?
“PALIN: Claimed she has taken on the oil industry as Alaska governor.
THE FACTS: Palin pushed to impose a windfall profits tax on oil companies and distributed the proceeds to the state’s citizens to offset rising energy costs. However, she has also sided with the industry on a number of issues. She sued the Interior Department over its designation of polar bears as an endangered species. That puts her on the same side as the American Petroleum Institute, the oil industry’s chief trade association. She also supports the industry’s desire to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge — a position at odds with McCain.”
Hmmm why don’t you add that to your list of…IT doesn’t matter what the “REAL” people think; only what the mainstream media wants us to think.
My mind today is so “discombobulated” by the comments I’ve been hearing in mainstream media all morning so far. This is only one example of “Stuck on Stupid” as there are so many!
REPORT JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES In the DEBATE 10/2/08?
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, which the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of its passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people’s health insurance coverage — they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska — she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it’s not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. McKiernan COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan; but the commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes in Afghanistan could be applied.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation — he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

sorenhawk, I was only half listening because the vp debate will not help who I vote for. I don’t base my decision on this. I still didn’t hear how McCain’s policies are different from Obama’s. She didn’t go into that. Again, I only heard republican talking points which she did very well with. But she side stepped a lot of the questions.

wow hmn… well said. thanks for the info. Palin and McCain have two set of family values. Palin is a positive roll model for the Christian family. Both Obama and Biden are also good roll models. But McCain represent the egotistical playboy husband who have affairs and marries his mistress and abandon his children.. shame on you John McCain.
http://joeland7.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/mccain-lied-about-his-divorce-and-remarriage-

today: “Palin however has the uplifting message we all crave.”
Okay, let us non-cultists in on the secret. What message?

Tori Bflo,NY:
“but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.”
Yeah, he didn’t vote at all. You really want to bring up how he skipped about 60% of the votes last year? You have lost ANY right to flog that “Obama voted present 3% of the time he was in the IL senate!” line.
“Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling”
I oppose exercise. It hurts and wastes time. Doesn’t mean I don’t own a pair of worn running shoes.
“Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline”
That is EXACTLY what Biden said and insinuated. John McCain voted against funding when he disagreed fundamentally with an attached admendment, exactly like Obama. Playing gotcha with votes may have worked with Kerry, but McCain is a senator too with his own record.
Factcheck.org has a good rundown of the debate (there’s a reason Cheney recommended them during his ’04 VP debate). I suggest people interested in reality check it out.
And while Biden is dinged about as many times as Palin, I would (partisanly) point out that Biden actually said many more verifiable statements as opposed to empty slogans.

The only thing I understood was when she corrected Biden on the slogan, “drill baby drill.”
Posted by: Paul | Oct 3, 2008 11:52:16 AM
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Well there ya go Paul! Ya got a little some’thin!

today: “This break in at the Palin/McCain (I like that order) is an example of the democratic party notion that any means is acceptable and justified by their ends. Look at the hate speech even on this blog. That has all been endorsed by the media. That looks like the work of Hitler youth.”
I think that paragraph nicely summarizes today’s outlook. Everyone read it again. It has unfounded slander, insinuation, and ends with a comparison to Hitler.
Congratulations McCain, you now are the undisputed cult of personality.

ummm…has anyone actually taken a look at the online poll on fox this morning? It’s currently at 58% for Biden and 39% for Palin…Ann…think that one is fixed too?

sorenhawk: “…Try to go to Obama’s website, you can’t go to anything in it without having to make a contribution. In other words, in order to speak to him or any of his election committee YOU HAVE TO PAY FIRST! What does that tell you!”
That you are delusional or a liar? A statement most easily proven by going to barackobama.com and clicking the “Skip Signup” button. The rest of your ranting has be refuted over and over by sources like factcheck.org and (sadly) snopes.com, an urban legends website.
I would get into trying to get you to name names and note all of McCain’s ties to Freddie and Fannie, but I don’t really have time to debate with people who just want to throw out new lies and tinfoil conspiracy theories.

jhw539,
dude…do you know how to operate a computer? The Obama website allows you to skip the contribution page and pull up anything you like.

sorry jhw539,
i didn’t read enough of your post to realize it was a response and that you were clarifying the same point I made.
Apologies…

“Sarah Palin Was Sensational Tonight … I Think She Wiped Up The Floor With Joe Biden”
Joe you are so emotional baby!
Biden cried….Governor Palin did not.

There is nothing wrong with being a Normal American i.e. a Hockey Mom or Joe six-pack!
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Well no, not if you’re running for PTA President. No doubt a nice next door neighbor too.
However, some of us WANT our leaders to be ABOVE AVERAGE, to be some the SMARTEST individuals, to actually BE KNOWLEDGABLE about national and international policy. I guess that idea doesn’t register with you for some reason.
Reading from cue cards and pre-rehearsed speeches is fine, but it does not qualify one to lead the nation.
We certainly don’t need another person “you want to have a beer with”.
BUSH was that person. Someone (not me) voted that guy into office for the same reasons. Do you refuse to learn from past mistakes?

Karen:
dude…do you know how to operate a computer? The Obama website allows you to skip the contribution page and pull up anything you like.
Not if you want to make a statement on his site.

HP: “Biden cried….Governor Palin did not.”
Come on, HP. Biden was referring to the death of his wife and daughter, and near-death of his sons, at the time. And you really want to make this a talking point? And you seemingly do, feeling the need to repeat it at least once that I’ve seen.

Paul woulda a coulda, shoulda maybe…..
I am an exdem, I LOVE SENATOR CLINTON!
I am A PUMA and NO VOTE FOR OMAMA!
ANYONE BUT OBAMA!!!!
I was disenfranchised by the Democratic Party and I’m looking for someone with integrity to earn my vote.

Ifill’s performance does NOT prove she was objective nor free from making an unethical decision. None of us know what this clear Obama supporter did (or didn’t do) behind the scenes! For all we know her bias motivated her to give Biden a look at all her questions before the debate or she coached him on how to respond. We don’t know! But her objective performance does not prove that she was the right person for the job. She is an author of a book about one of the candidates and she purposefully withheld this information from the Debate Commission…she was the WRONG person…and we simply don’t know how her position of great power changed the dynamics of this debate!!

sorenhawk: “No, that tells you that you are an idiot, you don’t want to hear the truth,”
Standard McCain campaign: When confronted with obvious, easily refuted lies personally attack the speaker. A lot like a certain President whose handiwork I think we’ve all experienced…

Here goes Obama talking points:
Bush is bad,
Bush is bad,
Bush is Bad….
Sarah said it well something like, If you’re so hung up on the past. How can you forward??
McCain/Palin 08

jhw539
Standard McCain campaign: When confronted with obvious, easily refuted lies personally attack the speaker. A lot like a certain President whose handiwork I think we’ve all experienced…
What about these lies of Obama?
1.) Selma Got Me Born – LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – L IAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the New York Times: “I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith,” Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.’ Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience – LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even spea k the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. You seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran, will not subject itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas politica l adviser Ahmed Yousef said the Hamas terrorist group ‘supports Obama’s foreign policy vision’.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.
13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ’08 – LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois – LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted – LIAR, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote
A Tough Nuclear Bill – LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA – LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel. You state you will open friendly communication with the Leader of Iran who is attempting to develop nuclear weapons to destroy us, but refuse to speak to FOX news. You are against provisions of the Patriot act which would all wiretapping of the phones of suspected terrorists in the USA.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet – LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida – LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks – and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan – LIAR, no you didn’t.
33.) I won Nevada – LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count – LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide – LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend – LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace – LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words – LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate – LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate – for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail – LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone – LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a Cuban Flag with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office which you allow to be displayed. You voted against making english the official language of the United States. You voted to give illegal aliens social security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security system for Americans legally paying into it.
49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country – LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vain of Rev. Wright and Louis Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support – LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.

She ACTUALLY believes the Flintstones is history our planet NOT a TV show.
Conservative + Education = Thinking Person
Thinking Person = Liberal (damn repugs)
I am sorry I dont want a Joe Six-Pack with lipstick running our country.
That has not worked for the last 8 years… and not for another 4 years.
Obama/Biden 08

Sorenhawk, just because you say it doesn’t make it true. How about some documented facts?
SARAH PALIN’S 18 DEBATE LIES
1. FANNIE MAE/FREDDIE MAC: Palin said “it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures,” but fact checkers say that’s “Quite A Stretch” And “Barely True,” and that McCain was a “latecomer” to the discussion.
2. FUNDAMENTALS ARE STRONG: Palin tried to say “John McCain saying our economy was strong” but McCain has used the phrase “The Fundamentals Of The Economy Are Strong” At Least 16 Times This Year.
3. PARTISAN POLITICS: Palin said McCain is “known for putting partisan politics aside to just get the job done,” but he has voted with Bush 90% of the time in the Senate and bragged about his support for Bush on important issues.
4. TAXES ATTACK: Palin repeated the attack that Obama voted for higher taxes 94 times, which the New York Times says is “false,” CNN says is “Misleading,” and FactCheck.org says is “inflated.”
5. TOBACCO REGULATION: Palin said to “look at the tobacco industry” as an example of McCain pushing for even harder and tougher regulations. But McCain opposed expanding the SCHIP children’s health insurance program for 5.8 million children because it would increase tobacco taxes.
6. SPENDING INCREASES: Palin said Obama is is proposing “nearly a trillion dollars in new spending,” but didn’t mention that he has also proposed cuts to balance it out, an attack CNN has already debunked as “misleading” and that ignores the far larger cost of McCain’s tax cuts and spending hikes.
7. HEALTH CARE: Palin claimed Obama’s health plan is “government run” which has been widely debunked as a “canard.”
8. HEALTH CARE. Palin says taxes wouldn’t go up under the McCain health care plan, a fact even his own campaign has acknowledged isn’t true.
9. TROOPS: Palin repeated what the AP called the “highly misleading” attack that Obama opposed funding for the troops, and Factcheck.org notes that the same methodology would lead to the same conclusion for McCain.
10. GLOBAL WARMING: Palin said “I don’t want to argue about the causes” for global warming, when she has clearly taken the position that she doesn’t not believe it is man-made.
11. MCCAIN IS CONSISTENT: Palin said McCain” doesn’t tell one thing to one group and then turns around and tells something else to another group,” when that is exactly what he has done on immigration, telling Hispanic leaders he was for comprehensive reform instead of the enforcement focused approach he has taken with conservatives.
12. MCCLELLAN NOT MCKIERNAN: Palin referred to the US commander in Afghanistan, David McKiernan as “McClellan.”
13. MCKIERNAN ON “SURGE:” Palin said that [McKiernan] did not say a surge wouldn’t work in Afghanistan, when just yesterday he said “The word I don’t use for Afghanistan is ‘surge,’ ” McKiernan stressed, saying that what is required is a “sustained commitment” to a counterinsurgency effort that could last many years and would ultimately require a political, not military, solution
14. KILLING CIVILIANS. Palin said “Obama had said that all we’re doing in Afghanistan is air raiding villages and killing civilians and such a reckless, reckless comment and untrue comment again hurts our cause. That’s not what we are doing there.” Unfortunately, the Associated Press says that Obama was right in discussing a critically important point about avoiding civilian casualties.
15. TEACHING: Palin said we need to make sure “that education in either one of our agendas, I think, absolute top of the line,” when McCain has repeatedly favored tax cuts for the wealthy over funds for more teachers and class size reduction.
16. PARTISAN APPOINTMENTS: Palin said “You do what I did as governor. And you appoint people regardless of party affiliation. Democrats, independents, Republicans, you walk the walk, don’t just talk the talk” when she repeatedly appointed friends and supporters to positions for which they weren’t qualified.
17. FOCUS ON CLIMATE CHANGE: Palin falsely claimed that she was the first governor to form a climate change subcabinet, when at least 28 states had already taken action.
18. DARFUR DIVESTMENT: Palin claimed that “when I and others” found out that the state had money invested in Sudan that “we called for divestment,” when the reality is that Palin’s appointees worked to kill a Darfur divestment plan.

I love the fact that Palin coninued to reinterate that Obama continues to look at the past and point fingers without looking forward. Obama is an idiot…America knows this!

18 is pretty substantial considering she’s only been around a few weeks. Give her time I’m sure there will be a lot more.

Joe- Your so-called “documented facts” don’t jive with the public record of facts. Please provide your source/sources of information please so that we may see for ourselves.

Sorenhawk – NOT Joe (sorry Joe)
Your so-called “documented facts” don’t jive with the public record of facts. Please provide your source/sources of information please so that we may see for ourselves.

sorenhawk just needs to learn what a ‘fact’ actually is. But dont be too hard on him, he’s obviously a clueless twit.

Open up your eyes people !
Arab view of Obama:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/aahome
~ Biden’s view of Obama:
http://www.gop.com/obamasvp/
~ Some myths solved about Obama and Palin ( there is a link for hers )
http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2008/09/13_myths_about_barack_obama.html
~ Biden’s roots
http://www.counterpunch.org/dimaggio08272008.html
This is well said:
“Who could vote for this guy – - It’s O.K. to be liberal but that doesn’t mean you are stupid – - ”
Leave it to a pilot to summarize the situation concerning B. Obama in a few choice words.
A PILOTS PERSPECTIVE OF OBAMA
,,,,,,,,,,DO I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT?
HIS FATHER WAS A BLACK AFRICAN-ARAB-MUSLIM FROM KENYA . WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN FAMILY
HIS MOTHER WAS A WHITE AMERICAN ATHEIST FROM KANSAS .
WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS AMERICAN FAMILY?
HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD AND WENT BACK TO AFRICA BY WAY OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY . HOW? WAS HIS FATHER WEALTHY?
HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND THEN MOVED TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS ENROLLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL .
WHEN HE REACHED HIGH SCHOOL AGE HIS MOTHER SENT HIM TO HAWAII TO BE WITH HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS AND HE WAS PUT INTO AN EXPENSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOL. HE LATER WENT TO HARVARD UNIVERSITY . HOW? WERE HIS GRANDPARENTS WEALTHY?
HE LIVES IN A $14 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUND-RAISER. HOW?
HE ‘WORKED’ AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO . HE HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB OR RECEIVED A PAY CHECK THAT WAS NOT GOVERNMENT-FUNDED AND/OR TAXPAYER SUPPORTED. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POSITION, NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES; ON-THE-JOB TRAINING WON’T CUT IT.
HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE.
HE IS PROUD OF HIS AFRICAN HERITAGE’ (A FATHER WHO GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER).
WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS ‘WHITE HERITAGE’? (A MOTHER WHO FLAUNTED CONVENTION AND DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD).
SOME MIGHT THINK THERE WAS NOT MUCH TO BE PROUD OF EITHER WAY.
HE BELONGS, AND HAS BELONGED FOR OVER 20 YEARS, TO AN ‘AFRO-CENTRIC’ CHURCH IN CHICAGO THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLD’S PERCEIVED FAULTS. (INCLUDING CREATING THE AIDS VIRUS IN ORDER TO INFLICT IT ON AFRICANS).
HE REPEATEDLY WHITEWASHES THE PASTOR, HIS CHURCH AND THE MEMBERS WHO CHEERED AFTER HEARING VITRIOLIC TIRADES AGAINST AMERICA . HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN ?
DURING HIS VERY BRIEF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE HE HAS MANAGED TO AMASS THE NUMBER ONE ……..ULTRA LIBERAL……VOTING RECORD OUT OF THE ONE HUNDRED MEMBERS.
HE HAS VOTED CONSISTENTLY FOR BIGGER GOVERNMENT AND HIGHER TAXES. HE HAS VOTED FOR BIG ENTITLEMENTS AND LEGISLATION THAT WOULD SEVERELY CURTAIL AMERICA ‘S ABILITY TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS AND OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS AROUND THE WORLD.
BUT, HE IS A GOOD ORATOR. ISN’T THAT A COMFORT?
YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW WELL HE COULD UNITE THE COUNTRY.
I THINK THE TRUTH IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER!
PILOT’S ANALYSIS:
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW CHIEF PILOT.
HE HAS NEVER FLOWN AN AIRPLANE, IN FACT HE HAS NEVER EVEN SAT IN THE COCKPIT, BUT HE SAYS HE HAS RIDDEN ON PLANES BEFORE.
HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT RADAR, OR HOW TO START THE ENGINES, OR HOW TO STOP THEM, OR ANYTHING ABOUT ALL THESE GADGETS, BUT WE ARE SURE HE WILL GUIDE US SAFELY THROUGH THE STORMS WE MAY ENCOUNTER ON THIS FLIGHT BECAUSE HE TOLD US HE COULD DO IT (And.. he is a great speaker!)
CONCLUSIONS:
WHAT ARE WE THINKING?
THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU VOTE.
What a great slogan:
‘My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it.’ (B. Obama)
IF THIS DOESN’T WORRY YOU……FORGET THAT I MENTIONED IT.

“MOTHER OF ALL GAFFES”
Rick Moran of Right Wing Nut House has followed the wars in Lebanon more closely than most bloggers, and Joe Biden’s assertion that the US and France “kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon” has him gasping for breath. Calling it “completely insane”, Rick deconstructs the rest of the answer on this question to seriously challenge whatever credentials Biden claims on foreign policy.
Read more here -
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/03/mother-of-all-gaffes/
Liberal MSM silence on this at 3…2…1 *Cricket*

Cut and Paste, Cut and Paste
Blah, blah, blah
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!
Get used to it!

There are PLENTY of those nice, handy, little excerpts for Obama and Biden.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Do you really want someone in office who has to “cram” for a debate? She did appeal to the mullet sporting, trailer dwelling, “gee I ain’t got all that fancy book learnin”, let’s go frog giggin’ demographic in the south. The dummying down of America, how wonderful.

John McCain – “Judgement that comes with age”
“There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along.” [MSNBC, 4/23/03]
” I believe that the success will be fairly easy.” [CNN, 9/24/02]
“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. ” [CNN, 9/29/02]
“But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]
“But I believe that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.” [NBC, 3/20/03]
“It’s clear that the end is very much in sight.” [ABC, 4/9/03]
“This is a mission accomplished..” [This Week, ABC, 12/14/03]
“I’m confident we’re on the right course.” [ABC News, 3/7/04]
Can you give an estimate when can our troops come home? (Matt Lauer) “No, but that’s not too important,” [ABC 6/11/08]
“There were those of us who knew along that this would be difficult” (TV interview 07/08)……
…Uh, sure you did Maverick, sure you did.

HP Boston – I guess it’s good for you that you have become hardened to your tragedy over the years. Hopefully, you will never be in a situation where the story comes up of what happened with your sister or your parents forcing you to return to those tragic days. Whatever you do – do not show an ounce of emotion. It’s unacceptable in your book because it has been 20 years. I sincerely feel sorry for you.

“Joe Sixpack”
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I find that reference insulting.
The implication is clear.

Emily I agree with you

Palin isn’t running for the PTA or some other local office, she is running for the Vice President of the United States. Yet to watch the commentators on T.V. you are led to believe that because she didn’t dissolve into a blithering ill informed idiot, she did well. The reality is she didn’t have substantive answers to those questions she actually answered. Did anyone else notice that she appeared not to know the meaning of the phrase “Achilles heel”?

Breath of fresh air Palin….no politics as usual, calling old Joe out on his flip flops. We want direct, we want middle America, I want Palin’s enthusiasm and can do attitude, supporting the experience of McCain.
NEVER OBAMA……and I’m an ex Hillary supporter who is thrilled to switch sides since Hillary withdrew.

Hey americans, I stayed up late to watch the eagerly awaited debate and I laughed my lungs out…one gentleman I believe Biden was debating whilst the young lady was putting up her resume. She sold herself very well except the fact that she was supposed to be selling the other guy (ragged McCain). She had no time for McCain. But what really interested me were the winks, I loved them. Vote for McCain/Palin and in 2012 the ticket will be Palin/Paris Hilton…Paris can connect right. I loved her ad response to McCain, she knew her energy policy right??? Well, I love the USA dreams do definately come true.

Obama the magic negro is going to prison.

Last night it was “drill we must” out of Biden’s mouth. Joe Biden HAS NEVER back drilling for oil? NEVER.
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So? dahling, this is what you get when you have TWO COMPETENT persons running ONE ticket. Experience AND innovation. COMBINED. WAAAY better than a freaky old dude with a thing for your perty girlz.
Biden will contribute his thing, and by what I saw last night, we certainly could use that demeanor of RESPECT and Camaraderie in our foreign affairs. Certainly not a wacko shooty pitbully lady being held back by an expired Machiavellic war nut’s LEASH.

I did not appreciate her EAST COAST PEOPLE REMARK,She has no Idea about East Coast people her first time to NY last week, this woman is so out of touch with us its not funny she needs to go back to Alaska!
Posted by: angie | Oct 3, 2008 9:17:59 AM
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Honestly, I’m pretty upset because now I have to feel dirty just because I have a college education and I live in a big city!
are you for real? what?? SHOULD I HAVE GOTTEN PREGNANT AT 17 AND HAD A SHOTGUN WEDDING SO THAT THIS WOMAN would actually care about me?
Excellent!
STANDARDS!
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She reminded me of that lady with pink hair and GOOED UP BLACK MASCARA and HUUUGE pink lips from the Christian Network or whatever… with that oh so soft and sweeeeeeet voice that sometimes makes me wanna slap the beehives out of her! LOL!
GO PALIN DA PITBULL! lol! sooo fake!
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least she did not lie lie lie like biden
Posted by: reddog0216 | Oct 3, 2008 9:49:12 AM
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Right, BECAUSE we actually ARE building that pipeline… IN DRAGON LAND! dragon tales dragon tales!! it’s almost time for dragon tales!!! come on over shake mah hand!let’s all go to dragon laaaand!
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Emily, you are the shtza! THANKS for seeing that too!

Palin “delivered” the same false talking points she and John McCain use in their speeches.
Despite the fact that Palin came off more polished, it’s too late for her to be taken seriously by anyone. The entire country has seen her bumbling interviews. The entire country knows she was in debate camp learning what to say for the last week and don’t take her seriously. The fact checking has already been done and the country already knows her lies by heart.
She continues to insult women with her hockey mom stereotype that many women find offensive, she still does not appear knowledgable on any issues she is clearly repeating what she learned at camp. She refused to answer the questions asked and announced she would only do filtered interviews.
Palin cleary lost the debate, but she did regain some composure. Unfortunately it’s to late for McCain & Co….the cat’s already been out of the bag on Sarah Palin for awhile now.
Firing up the base while sending the rest of the country running isn’t going to win McCain the election. McCain made a very poor VP choice and America knows it. Palin reiterated that at the debate.

What’s so offensive about Hockey Mom?
The honesty about it?
Let’s try some others shall we?
Soccer Mom
Indie Film Maker Mom
Soldier Mom
Working Mom
Childless professional Working Woman
Football Mom
Welfare Mom
“Whitey” hating Mom.
Adopting Mom
Doctor Mom
Lawyer Mom
Waitress Mom
Crack Cocaine Mom
Rich Mom
Poor Mom
Fat Mom
Thin Mom
Which kind of Mom you serve your particular interests?
Come on? Do women in the year 2008 have to look like a man? Have a “butch” hair cut? Speak like dictator? ala Clinton? Have ridden her husband’s coat tails to the top? Sleep to the top?
Or would we not criticize Sarah/Palin if she was “black” “hispanic”, eastern seaboard polished, a man, not a mom, asian, jewish, or erudite, high brow and aloof? Should she have worn a man’s suit? and flat simple shoes? How about a Hillary “pant” suit? Would we like her better is she looked like Meir, Walters, Clinton, Albright, Thatcher, Oprah?
She is 100% of what she is! Perhaps we “amercans” can’t handle that these days? Again, we want someone to “fit’ in our own little “niche”.
Today, would we have like Abrahams LIncoln’s look, his poor past?
Could we have looked past Roosevelts, handicap? Jefferson’s wealth? Kennedy’s wealth, philandering, and drug addiction?
Washington’s lack luster, but military genius?
I doubt it. It seems what we want is elusive, evasive Rock Star president back by some of america’s and foreigner’s greatest wealth. Yes, we want a media puppet. Who will bend and sway which ever way the wind blows and whichever way he is told.
Myself, I’m not a hockey mom. Quite honestly, I fought many years, because I was an artist who grew up as a “hockey” daughter, nothing grated me more than rah, rah, sports fanatics.
But I grew up!
But what I embrace about Palin, and anyone is the “truth”. I ask, Is her hate filled “senior” thesis” being locked away at her university? I don’t think so!
So what’s to hate about Hockey Mom?
Maybe it’s what you hate about yourself.Get over it. She is a shining example of a true American Women.
Gee, maybe is she was “something” else, more suited to our personal agendas” we’d like her better. Sounds a little shallow doesn’t it?
The Art of War! equals “Divide and Conquer”.
That’s the only war Obama-ites can win!

I see Molly and GIGI the Obama bloggers are out in force today, cutting and pasting their same garbage on multiple threads.
They must be scared shitless!

Talk about racists! Those Obamas and their cult following are the worst. But worse of all I won’t vote for a drug addict who has gay sex in the back of a limo.

Michelle Obama first lady……ROFL thats funny more like first charcter in the Planet of the Apes” NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, SHE DOES HAVE A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE TO ZERA! BUT NOWHERE NEAR THE SCRUPLES! MICHELLE SHOULD BE BANISHED FROM THE USA.

I guess you all forget that Obama refused to put his hand over his heart salute America and oh yeah , I guess you all forgot that Obama wife stated” Finally, I can believe in America or a in others word a purpose (husband running for president- concidence-”. Will she feel the same if he was not running for office- so all this time she hated America and what it stands for.
Do you actually want her for first lady.. she has no track history of being patriotic. Any lawyer serving inner cities are to be applaud but their is no distinction in what she is doing- she has not given her millions away has she..
I think their should be a debate between Michele and McCain’s wife.
You will see the true patriotism-
People, True Americans are patriot to the end.. and their names are not American patriotic. Biden Obamb or is it Obama Hussien/Bid (Li)den-
Don’t be deceived..

Obama’s Crazy Crew can promise the sun. Let’s get real! Stop letting the elite beltway media tell you who you should vote for. Check out PitbullPalin.org to show your vote.

NEEDEDINFO–you forgot to mention that “this really happened to a friend of mine in California” and “forward to at least 10 people you know!” Oh, and “tax and spend democrats”. What is it with you neocons and name-calling and glittering generalities? The world isn’t black and white, it’s many shades of gray. The thought seems to be if you keep attacking, you can defeat all reason with FUD.

yep, and then we’ve got his kids swinging on the chandeliers in the White House, while he’s doing coke and sneaking cigs in the bathroom before a meeting. And the revival of affirmitive action, slave reparations and all kinds of horrors.

Based on John McCain’s reaction to Governor Palin’s “debate” he is going to have a coronary if she has a Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction or if she winks at him. Unh, unh??? Then she will be the president of the United States and Todd will be the first dud.

I have a question for Democrats/Obama supporters: The Democrats say all of the economic problems (well, all of the problems in this country) are due to the Bush Administration and Republicans. However, Democrats have been the majority for more than two years.
Therefore, it seems to me that either:
(a) If the Republicans/Bush are totally to blame, Democrats in Congress haven’t been doing anything; or
(b) It’s not just one person/parties’ fault, and all share in the failures in our government.
You can’t have it both ways.
While the partisan sniping goes on here and between the candidates(which is a real turnoff to those of us who want to put our country before a political party), I will say that only one ticket has taken any responsibility – John McCain and Sarah Palin. John McCain has said several times “we” failed you and I do get the sense he and Palin really would work to cross the aisle and at least try to stop this destructive partisanship.
Obama is so closely tied to Pelosi and Reid – it’s clear from their behavior they won’t do that. How will things change if that’s the case?
Just a thought…