The Note: Race Could Be Slipping From McCain’s Grasp
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports in Monday’s Note:
Four weeks out, what does it say that . . . Team McCain is hoping that Bill Ayers has one last bomb in him — just enough to blow up the presidential race?
. . . That it’s the McCain campaign that has to telegraph its intentions to keep the base from sitting the rest of this one out?
. . . That Karl Rove has gone from nudging along McCain strategy to sounding the GOP alarm bells?
. . . That Palin Power needs to be employed to save a single electoral vote in Nebraska (and that she wants both Michigan and Jeremiah Wright in play — her campaign’s moves notwithstanding)?
. . . That GOP jitters are spreading across the (diminished) map?
Read the rest of The Note — and get all the latest on the 2008 election, Congress, the White House and the wide world of politics every day — from Rick Klein by bookmarking this link.
. . . That Sen. John McCain is turning a page only to find an old story he doesn’t like to hear told?
So we reach the nasty stage — with Ayres and Rezko (but not Wright — unless Gov. Sarah Palin gets her way) back among us.
But context is everything, and might these attacks have been more effective a few weeks ago — back when convention wisdom wasn’t congealing, back when the map wasn’t crumbling, back when the GOP aides wasn’t fretting/sniping/panicking, back when this race still looked wide open?
It’s not (just) the fundamentals of the economy, it’s the fundamentals of the campaign: McCain is looking to rock a race that has already been through as big a storm of perceptions as we’re likely to see.
He’s relying on old connections and shady associations to raise doubts about Sen. Barack Obama — when it might be too late to make it all stick.
Continue reading today’s Note by clicking HERE.
ABC News’ Hope Ditto contributed to this report.
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Rick Santorum's Full Speech at CPAC 2012
Articles like this one are part of the MSM’s attempts to help Obama win this election. This particular strategy is called “Let’s create an air of inevitability for Barack’s election.” Pro-Obama journalists try to convince McCain supporters that the election is lost, hoping they won’t bother to get out and vote. Polls are skewed to make Obama’s election seem inevitable. Like the following network Poll: 87% of Democrats support Obama. Really? I don’t think so. I know too many Democrats who are voting for McCain to believe that little bit of poll data.
Posted by: JB in St. Louis | October 6, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
again
MccainKeating s&l a trillion dollars gone
McCainBush Iraq a trillion dollars gone
McCain Gramm deregulation (AGAIN! ugh)
a trillion dollars gone…
Meanwhile we as a country go down the tubes as they destroy us.
Get angry.
Throw these bums out!!!!
Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
John McCain needs to get Super-Mavericky. If that doesn’t work, he needs to get Super Duper Mavericky!
Posted by: euro.guy | October 6, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
People do notice.
Those who mislead are not leaders.
McCain has shown he is not a leader.
Posted by: PistolPete | October 6, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
If the mainstream media had vetted Obama properly, the McCain camp wouldn’t have to talk about his radical ties. Imagine if Hillary or McCain had announced their Senate campaigns in the home of an American communist who bombed government buildings? Imagine if Hillary or McCain had spent 20 years in a church that condemned Jews, whites and the United States government? They would have been out of the race months ago. I applaud the McCain campaign for finally bringing out these things about Obama. They are doing what the MSM should have done months ago. The MSM is the big loser in this election. More and more people are tuning into Fox and conservative talk radio – to get the real news. I’m one of those people, and I’ve NEVER voted for a Republican candidate in my entire life – until now.
Posted by: Karl, Strongsville, OH | October 6, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Don’t you mean a few weeks ago, when the election was not yet UNFAIRLY drifting Obama’s way because of the current economic crisis that Obama and his Democratic counterparts appear to be the root cause of??
Obama, through his radical ties at ACORN, and his tactics training of their foot soldiers, who launched pressure attacks on banks and lending agencies in order to have them make home loans to unqualified borrowers, as well as his Democratic counterparts in Congress, particularly the Black Caucus, who refused to see the Fannie/Freddie problem even when it was staring them in the face, were one of the primary factors behind the economic meltdown, but yet Obama appears to be the beneficiary of the crisis, rather than appropriately receiving part of the blame.
In additioin, there appears to be rampant election fraud already developing in this race, once again through foot soldiers of ACORN, whom the Obama campaign was caught undeclaredly funneling $800,000 of campaign donations to in August. Every day there appears to be a new state reporting underhanded doings of ACORN regarding early voting and voter registration.
The MSM has fallen terribly short in their duty to the American public during this election by their obvious bias towards Obama, and their non-reporting of these off-color, if not illegal, activities.
If liberal America, the liberal media, and these far left liberal “community organizing” groups are not careful, the outcome of this election might end up in the lap of the U.S. Supreme Court, just like the 2000 election did.
And we all know how that one came out.
Posted by: Lee | October 6, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Michelle Did It
I believe BO will not release his undergraduate transcripts for good reason. So how did he get through Harvard Lawschool? Michelle. She graduated from Lawschool in 1988 and BO graduated in 1991. He was a summer associate at the lawfirm where she was employed. She was assigned as his mentor. They married in 1992.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama
Michelle has the smarts and BO is dumb as a Bush box of rocks.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
and Karl
on that idea
Mccain wouldn’t be near the election because we would know the backgrounds of Davis, Black, Keating,
Questioned Mccain and showed his clips of him saying we should go into Iraq right after the day of September 11.
and we would know very clearly that Palin was a moron who got elected on fluff and looks …not substance
and that her approval rating has to do with an oil economy dependent state seeing windfalls so she could put in place a dem idea and get the windfall profits on the backs of the rest of us…
to increase their budget by 60%
an increase that they are just now seeingf the hangover on.
this is ridiculous
same team
same tactics
9th year
get angry
throw these bums out who have been destroying our nation by distraction and lies…and stupidity.
this is a joke
Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
I have to agree with Karl.Give or take the MSM has been the biggest loser of this election.Whatever the political persuasion of an individual we like the news to be unbiased even if it does not please us.Extremes on either side are not good.Obama has been the beneficiary this season ,someone else will be next time.This loathing of the media is not what will hold them in the long run.
Posted by: viv | October 6, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
McCain decision to personally attack Obama will be his last erratic move in his campaign; it will totally sink his ship. McCain has decided that the mavericky thing to do is to swift boat Obama by playing the guilt by association game. Great idea, Senator Straight Talk…but it’s no fun to play alone, so let’s add a couple of more players:
There’s McCain’s association with G. Gordon Liddy:
Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy’s radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled “John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07″ includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an “old friend.” During the segment, McCain praised Liddy’s “adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,” said he was “proud” of Liddy, and said that “it’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program.”
Point: McCain
And from Paul Begala:
But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”
Point: McCain
And we can’t forget the mini-Maverick and her close and personal relationship with an America-hating secessionist group:
So, we have Sarah Palin, actively involved with a secessionist group that professes its hatred for America, and whose husband was a card-carrying member of the group for seven years. And don’t forget, Todd Palin isn’t just the spouse of an elected official. He has been called a Shadow Governor, attending private meetings, being sent on fact finding trips, and being copied on emails that were later “prohibited from being released to the public due to executive privilege.” This man would be a 72-year old heartbeat and a pillow away from the presidency.
Point: Palin
And let’s add Palin’s pesky, but largely ignored, preacher problem. Thomas Muthee, the preacher that Palin said helped her become governor:
…founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.
And while praying with Palin standing by his side, Muthee:
…implored Jesus to protect Palin from “the spirit of witchcraft.” The video archive of that startling sermon was scrubbed from Wasilla Assembly of God’s website, but now it has reappeared.
And during that same prayer, Muthee also said:
The second area whereby God wants us, wants to penetrate in our society is in the economic area. The Bible says that the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous. It’s high time that we have top Christian businessmen, businesswomen, bankers, you know, who are men and women of integrity running the economics of our nations. That’s what we are waiting for. That’s part and parcel of transformation. If you look at the — you know — if you look at the Israelites, that’s how they work. And that’s how they are, even today.
Yes, Palin listened to him calling for God to take banking and business out of the hands of Jews and later praised him and his sermon.
Point: Palin
Oh, and one more that we can’t forget. John McCain’s association with four men…in fact, if it wasn’t for John McCain’s intimate association with them, the Savings & Loan crisis that cost the American taxpayers $2.6 billion, would have been known as the Keating 4 instead of the Keating 5 scandal:
The Keating Five became synonymous for the kind of political influence that money can buy. As the S&L failure deepened, the sheer magnitude of the losses hit the press. Billions of dollars had been squandered. The five senators were linked as the gang who shilled for an S&L bandit.
S&L “trading cards” came out. The Keating Five card showed Charles Keating holding up his hand, with a senator’s head adorning each finger. McCain was on Keating’s pinkie.
Point: McCain
And on the other side we have Barack Obama who served on charitable boards, along with many others, with William Ayers, who was involved with a radical group when Obama was 8 years old. Oh, and they share a zip code.
Point: Zero
And the winner is, McCain and Palin. But when you think about it, this game really isn’t fair. While Obama had no association with Ayers’ radical past and has repeatedly denounced it, both McCain and Palin were personally involved with all of their players. But let’s let them enjoy their victory here. It’s the only one they’ll get.
Posted by: jt1 | October 6, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Sarah Palin should be the last to throw stones at Obama about character when she is involved in a criminal investigation that might get her thrown in jail! If she wasn’t guilty of what they have accused her of, then why has her own husband refused to testify and why has she and the Republicans been trying to delay the investigation until after the election?
She is a fraud and has ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY with the American people. It is obvious that now that McCain and her don’t have an answer on the economy, they resort to the same nasty tactics Republicans have always used. Switch, distort, confuse and attack instead of presenting a positive plan of what they can do for the people. IT WON’T WORK THIS TIME because people’s fortunes are at stake and they blame the Republicans for the rotten state of EVERYTHING and McCain and Palin are showing themselves to be just like BUSH and CHENEY. No plan, no clue, NO WAY.
Posted by: Millie | October 6, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
as we can see from the McCain supporters above
same team
same tactics
9th year.
throw these bums out
and remember the last 9 years…the buck doesn’t stop with
Bush Mccain Cheney
it stops with the people that voted for them.
Posted by: dl | October 6, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
McCain decision to personally attack Obama will be his last erratic move in his campaign; it will totally sink his ship. McCain has decided that the mavericky thing to do is to swift boat Obama by playing the guilt by association game. Great idea, Senator Straight Talk…but it’s no fun to play alone, so let’s add a couple of more players:
There’s McCain’s association with G. Gordon Liddy:
Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy’s radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled “John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07″ includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an “old friend.” During the segment, McCain praised Liddy’s “adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,” said he was “proud” of Liddy, and said that “it’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program.”
Point: McCain
And from Paul Begala:
But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”
Point: McCain
And we can’t forget the mini-Maverick and her close and personal relationship with an America-hating secessionist group:
So, we have Sarah Palin, actively involved with a secessionist group that professes its hatred for America, and whose husband was a card-carrying member of the group for seven years. And don’t forget, Todd Palin isn’t just the spouse of an elected official. He has been called a Shadow Governor, attending private meetings, being sent on fact finding trips, and being copied on emails that were later “prohibited from being released to the public due to executive privilege.” This man would be a 72-year old heartbeat and a pillow away from the presidency.
Point: Palin
And let’s add Palin’s pesky, but largely ignored, preacher problem. Thomas Muthee, the preacher that Palin said helped her become governor:
…founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.
And while praying with Palin standing by his side, Muthee:
…implored Jesus to protect Palin from “the spirit of witchcraft.” The video archive of that startling sermon was scrubbed from Wasilla Assembly of God’s website, but now it has reappeared.
And during that same prayer, Muthee also said:
The second area whereby God wants us, wants to penetrate in our society is in the economic area. The Bible says that the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous. It’s high time that we have top Christian businessmen, businesswomen, bankers, you know, who are men and women of integrity running the economics of our nations. That’s what we are waiting for. That’s part and parcel of transformation. If you look at the — you know — if you look at the Israelites, that’s how they work. And that’s how they are, even today.
Yes, Palin listened to him calling for God to take banking and business out of the hands of Jews and later praised him and his sermon.
Point: Palin
Oh, and one more that we can’t forget. John McCain’s association with four men…in fact, if it wasn’t for John McCain’s intimate association with them, the Savings & Loan crisis that cost the American taxpayers $2.6 billion, would have been known as the Keating 4 instead of the Keating 5 scandal:
The Keating Five became synonymous for the kind of political influence that money can buy. As the S&L failure deepened, the sheer magnitude of the losses hit the press. Billions of dollars had been squandered. The five senators were linked as the gang who shilled for an S&L bandit.
S&L “trading cards” came out. The Keating Five card showed Charles Keating holding up his hand, with a senator’s head adorning each finger. McCain was on Keating’s pinkie.
Point: McCain
And on the other side we have Barack Obama who served on charitable boards, along with many others, with William Ayers, who was involved with a radical group when Obama was 8 years old. Oh, and they share a zip code.
Point: Zero
And the winner is, McCain and Palin. But when you think about it, this game really isn’t fair. While Obama had no association with Ayers’ radical past and has repeatedly denounced it, both McCain and Palin were personally involved with all of their players. But let’s let them enjoy their victory here. It’s the only one they’ll get.
Posted by: jt1 | October 6, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Could be?
Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
If the mainstream media had vetted Obama properly, the McCain camp wouldn’t have to talk about his radical ties. Imagine if Hillary or McCain had announced their Senate campaigns in the home of an American communist who bombed government buildings? Imagine if Hillary or McCain had spent 20 years in a church that condemned Jews, whites and the United States government? They would have been out of the race months ago. I applaud the McCain campaign for finally bringing out these things about Obama. They are doing what the MSM should have done months ago. The MSM is the big loser in this election. More and more people are tuning into Fox and conservative talk radio – to get the real news. I’m one of those people, and I’ve NEVER voted for a Republican candidate in my entire life – until now.
Posted by: Karl, Strongsville, OH | Oct 6, 2008 9:00:19 AM
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BOTS do not have ANY way to filter the mantra of the terrorist gang Obuma hanga with, they have been thoroughly brain washed and indoctrinated.
I join you Karl with my first REPUBLICAN vote. Hell no I won’t go to OBUMA CAMP!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Lawmakers subpoenaed seven state employees to testify in the inquiry but they challenged those subpoenas. After a judge rejected that challenge last week, the employees decided to testify, Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg said.
Democratic state Sen. Hollis French, who is managing the investigation, said that, following the court ruling, he again asked Palin and her husband, Todd, whether they planned to testify.
“We’ve had no response,” French said Sunday.
Posted by: Rodger | October 6, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
This as is most of the nonsense coming out of the McCain campaign is just that nonsense. They would much rather engage in character assisination and lies than to address the real issues confronting our country. This is just the usual Swift boat and Karl Rove tatics that the Republicans think are going to win them another election. I am betting that the American people are smarter than that. This is BS and should be recognized as such. They must be getting desperate if they are resorting to this nonsense again.
Posted by: Brian, Decatur, GA | October 6, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
From the beginning Obama’s corrupt, racist and terrorist ties have bothered me enough to make me switch from voting for democrats my entire life to voting for a republican for the first time.
Obama scares me.
Dem for Palin/McCain
Posted by: edwin | October 6, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Can someone please fax the memo to McCain and Palin that the subject is THE ECONOMY!
If they can’t stay on the subject then they might as well GET OUT OF THE RACE!
Fear mongering, name-calling and distractions that have nothing to do with REAL ISSUES are yesterday’s news. Tactics of the Bush administration that are flatly being rejected by today’s voters and Palin is making herself look more like an idiot for using them, especially when her team is supposed to be trying to differentiate themselves from the Bush administration.
Posted by: Ruby | October 6, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
But this race could get blown apart if McCain is serious about constant character attacks on Obama and Palin gets away with mouthing off on Wright.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | October 6, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
Information about Obama’s close ties to Ayers are now being disclosed. Eventually the Michelle Whitey tape bomb will be dropped.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
edwin
your a liar
Posted by: jim | October 6, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
John McCain is starting to panic. Now might be a good time for him to loudly remind everybody that he was a POW.
Posted by: euro.guy | October 6, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
Can someone please fax the memo to McCain and Palin that the subject is THE ECONOMY
That’s right my man. it ain’t fair to bring up my homie’s terrorist friends.
Posted by: Nat Turner | October 6, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
Isn’t it ironic that McCain, who is supposed to be the older, wiser, steadier candidate is the one now seen as the one resorting to unstable, unwise and clearly childish antics in a desperate attempt to win the presidency at any cost.
Obama, by contrast, has been calm, steady, logical and throughout this campaign has made wise suggestions that many, even in the Bush administration, seem to be adopting and with good effect. He’s shown the kind of grace, restraint and maturity characteristic of the type of leader we need for our uncertain times, while McCain’s actions have shown him to be wreckless, irresponsible and thoughtless when it comes to what is in the long term best interest of the country.
As an undecided Independent, this contrast has helped me to make a decision. I have decided to choose the only candidate acting like an adult in this election. The one who might be younger, but who is clearly smarter and truly cares more about the long-term health of this country. I am voting enthusiastically for Barack Obama!
Posted by: Alice | October 6, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
5 requirements for a great leader
1) Moral courage
2) Judgment
3) A sense of priority
4) The disposal and concentration of effort
5) Humor
John McCain has shown he is lacking in at least 3, maybe 4 of the above, but most of all, Judgment.
It’s for the better, he has served, but now it’s time to retire, and send Sarah back to Alaska to watch Russian planes and field dress moose.
Posted by: Willy | October 6, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Yes, the issue IS the economy.
Problem is, blame is not getting placed where blame is deserved.
If the media would just do their job and report both sides fairly, the American voters would see the blame to this crisis lies with both parties, not just the Republicans, and that John McCain actually tried to initiate a remedy for this problem two or three years ago.
They would also see the SOLUTION to the problem is not raising taxes and spending MORE tax dollars as Obama plans to do.
Posted by: Lee | October 6, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
I see the media is trying to win an election for obama.
Has all the media been bought or brainwashed by Mr obama and company?
The headlines, the reporters opinions the influencing the public. The media has been totally irresponsible and have used and abused the American Citizen.
The more the media makes Mr obama out to be a god, the more people get scared and change their vote to McCain.
The basic Facts remain, Mr obama came from no where, with nothing to back him.
He has a horrible work ethics and lack of commitment to his congressional duties. He has a horrible voting record. He refuses to commit to anything, or take a stand on anything.
His only claim to fame is blame bush, blame the government and influence people to hate the President and hate the Government. So he can Change the Government.
Funny all his radical Friends and mentors over 20 years Want exactly that, The Government Changed.
Mr Obama’s main goals, to make history, pay reparations to the black people and Change the Government.
Mr obama’s repetitive speeches, slogans, catch phrases, his in your faces constantly. Telling people what they thought, what they wanted, what they should do, That is was the only one who could help, that he would change Government.
“This technique was also used in Nazi Germany. During his trial, one of Adolph Hitler’s right hand men, Albert Speer (Minister for Armaments) admitted, “Hitler’s dictatorship differed in one fundamental point from all its predecessors in history. It was the first dictatorship in the present period of modern technical development, a dictatorship which made complete use of all technical means for the domination of its own country. Through technical devices like the radio and the loud-speaker, eighty million people were deprived of independent thought. It was thereby possible to subject them to the will of one man . . . ”
Of course mr obama has used mass media, the internet, TV, Radio, cell phone, blogs, email, posters, signs, billboards, Telephone Every media known to man.
No wonder he was obsessed with Gernmany.
Mr Obama took it one step futher his new economic plan is taken right out the German history books. The Miracle economy.
This man needs investigated Not Honored or made out to be a God.
Posted by: seah | October 6, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Mark Twain almost 200 years ago created the perfect motto for Sarah Palin:
“Tis better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.”
Hopefully, for our own good as well as hers, she will heed this good advice. It was painful to watch her bumble through the Vice Presidential debate with the apparent education and vocabulary of a grade school child with no wonder since in her first interview she couldn’t name one newspaper or periodical related to current events that she has read recently. She really is an embarrasment to educated women everywhere.
Posted by: Anna | October 6, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
– Articles like this one are part of the MSM’s attempts to help Obama win this election –
Nope, you can try to point fingers all you want, but simple math is all that’s needed. For a more accurate, non-partisan electoral map based aggregating multiple statewide polls, please see:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Posted by: Concerned American | October 6, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”
Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop. The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center’s monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago. The event is free and open to the public.
Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent seven years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher at the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher at the Detention Center.
The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a “kind and just parent” for children in crisis.
One hundred years later, the system is “overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist,” Ayers said.
Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
McCain is desperate. This will backfire big time. People are sick and tired of this distractions type of politics.
“It’s the economy stupid”
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
I wonder how many people who have used to have friends that made decisions that was opiset of there own I know I used to have friends that have made decsions that I dont agree with, and I wouldnt want people to think I was tied to there hip ,just because I knew them or worked with them, I have friends that got adicted to drugs Im not,why should I be linked to them because I still call them friends, I pray for them not hang out with them, what palin said after the debait about obamas ties was just another way to try to win, its sick!!
Posted by: ADG | October 6, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Zogby has Obama +4 and says “Obama wins 88% support from Democrats”
As a Deomcrat voting for Mccain there is no way Obama gets 88%. PUMAs are being undercounted.
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
HP Boston, you will make nice pallbearer at Mr. McCain’s funeral, ha ha. His career is over, he is finished. Nice thing is that corpse animation technology is now so advanced that a cold cadaver can look alive, so Mr. McCain’s corpse can run again in 2012, ha ha.
Posted by: euro.guy | October 6, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Sarah knows that if she pulls the ‘reverand’ card, the Obama camp will pull the ‘witch’ card, and the GOP doesn’t want that as otherwise they will lose what little they have left keeping them alive, the evangelicals.
It’s apparent they know they have little hope when they resort to misleading the public in attacks against their opponent. Those who mislead are not leaders.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 6, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
Articles like this one are part of the MSM’s attempts to help Obama win this election.
Posted by: JB in St. Louis | Oct 6, 2008 8:50:15 AM
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Yes! How dare they report on the reality of the situation! What bias!
Posted by: Deep Release | October 6, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
As the country tanks, and I look to who can lead us, the option the republicans give us are an angry, bumbling, erratic man who has sold his soul to win at all costs, who does not present anythig positive, no solutions and has a whole slough of skeletons in his closet that could blow up in his face. His running mate, well, where do I begin: she’s like a cartoon character, one of those bitter mean girls from junior high school, it’s obvious she has zero depth on the issues or history of this country and she is sarcastic (like a teenager) and disrespectful on the national stage. Her husband’s membership for seven years in an anti-American party whose president has repeatedly made violent comments about this country is disturbing; and she runs on anti-corruption mantra and yet, she herself, is investigated for corruption. McCain has sent rich Texan lawyers to Alaska to block the release of the report and people in Alaska have reported bullying thugs who have intimidated them (check for yourself). She wants MORE power than Cheney! It’s just negative, negative, negative. We’ve had ENOUGH of this for eight long years. EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND people have lost their jobs in NINE months and this is obviously NOT a priority for this extremist ticket of mccain/palin. They make no mention of solutions and frankly, I don’t think the country can take any more of this radical, nastry and divisive leadership. Just the thought of Sarah Palin being in charge in a scenario of it being Sept. 11th, depending on her as commander in chief to direct our army, navy around the world, protect people and interests domestically and abroad, get our allies on board, talk to world leaders in the face of crisis, of some horrible catastrophe is just too hard to imagine. It is a worse reflection on mccain to have made such an irresponsible choice. I want to put my kids to bed at night knowing that the leadership in place actually will keep a calm head, know what to do and have the ability to get our allies to our side swiftly because of good relationships. Bottom line: I just cannot trust this vaudeville act with my country. Time to throw the bums out and clear out the stinking rot from the republican party and let them rebuild into something perhaps that has learned a lesson from this whole old boys network of Bush/McCain.
Posted by: b48 | October 6, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
On CBS recently, Katic Couric asked both McCain and Obama what the favorite movie was. McCain named some movie (can’t remember the name) about a man who gave up his life for his country. Obama said all the Godfather movies. He said he was “fascinated” by these gangsters, who were so smooth and elegant on the outside, but outright thugs underneath. He was grinning as he said those words, and I realized – this man is laughing at the stupidity of his own followers!!!!! He was telling McCain supporters, “Yeah, you and I know I’m a thug, but my supporters are too stupid to get it, don’t ya see? Heh. Heh. Heh.” Yeah, Barack, I get it. Your supporters ARE stupid.
Posted by: Carrie | October 6, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Sarah knows that if she pulls the ‘reverand’ card, the Obama camp will pull the ‘witch’ card
Bring it on then. Let Obama go after Palin. He already brought up Keating like anyone cares. What drugs was Obama doing back in the 80′s?
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Karl, Strongsville, OH –
You add your comments and criticize Obama’s past associations, you mention the church he attended. While speaking of preachers – I see you fail to mention Palin’s preacher who (if you do your research) preaches hatred of jews and how Alaska should cede from the US. Let’s not forget her ABUSE OF POWER investigation that on-going. Looks like the witnesses have smartened up and WILL TESTIFY. I also didn’t see you mention anything about McCain’s associations – and he has many. Not just Keating 5, but why did you fail to mention his association with MAFIA Boss Joseph Bonano and how McCain has taken MAFIA money in campaign contributions. Looks like the Repubs aren’t as saintly as you want us to believe!
Posted by: Debbie, Columbia, SC | October 6, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Karma rules. Those who sow bad seed shall reap bad harvest. OJ is another living proof that Karma does exist. The truth hurts and American people need to know the real person they cast their votes for. Be it’s Mccain or Obama. Let’s bring out Keating5, Acorn, Rezko, Ayers, Wright, Phleger, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mae’s kick-back receivers. We want full disclosures from both campaigns. Let’s the game begin.
Posted by: mtr2311 | October 6, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Here we are in an economy disaster,Unemployment is historic high,Foreclosers historic high and Mccain wants to talk about Ayers. why Mccain why not stick to the issuses that are important? could it be you have no plans to offer no changes just a continuation of the last 8 years so now you want to distract everybody better be careful Mccain you just might open a new can of worms on you yhat you CHOOSE not to TALK about MCCAIN PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THESE KINDS OF POLITICTS. PEOPLE WANT ANSWERS PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR JOB OF PRESIDENT WILL BE, AND SO FAR THE ONLY ONE TELLING US IS SENATOR OBAMA THAT IS WHY HE WILL BE PRESIDENT!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Yes, Carrie, you just read into that whatever you want to make up your mind about who to vote for; if you don’t feel foolish for that comment then I pity you.
Posted by: jmap | October 6, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
All you need to know about the bogus ‘Ayers’ connection:
Where did this smear start?
April 18, 2008
PHILADELPHIA –GOP mastermind Karl Rove, commenting on Bill O’Reilly’s Fox News show on Thursday, chastised Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for “hanging around” William Ayers.
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Hillary took it and ran.. it backfired on her.
The GOP has now picked it up the dead horse, and it too will backfire on them.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 6, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
What does Mccain not understand i mean i know hes not that bright and his bimbo vp well we know a fith grader is smarter then her listen mccant HILLARY CLINTON WANTED TO BE THE FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT DO YOU NOT THINK HILLARY DIDNT DIG AND DIG TO TRY TO FIND THINGS ON OBAMA? SO HE WOULD LOSE,HILLARY WANTED TO BE POTUS SO BAD SHE COULD TASTE IT SHE TRIED THE AYERS THING SHE TRIED THE WRIGHT THING DIDNT WORK ITS OLD NEWS HE STILL WON THE PRIMARIES AND HE WILL WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION SO GIVE IT UP CLOWNS!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Can’t wait for the Wisconsin polling numbers to be updated.
Prior to the economic crisis, yard signs were evenly split between the two candidates.
This weekend, we drove around and they are now 20-1 in favor of Obama.
Posted by: Dan | October 6, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Wow, there’s a lot of just open, blatant racism on this board. The GOP is literally desperate, so all they have left is to try to paint the brown man as a terrorist. Too bad McCain aactually has REAL friendships with crooks, anti-semetics, and terrorists. And Palin, as for Wright, since America already knows all about him, it may not be a good idea to bring up Obama’s religious affiliations since McCain once supported an Evangelical nutbag preacher who said Hitler was right, you’re on video being treated for “witchcraft” at your church, and I’m sure America would love to find all about how you like to “speak in tongues” at church.
Posted by: Alex | October 6, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
The race HAS already slipped from McCain’s grasp. Check this:
Monday, October 06, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows Barack Obama attracting 52% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%.
This is the highest level of support ever recorded for Obama and is his largest lead of the year.
It also continues a remarkable twenty-five days in a row where the Democrat’s support has never declined by even a single point.
Posted by: pollster | October 6, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
BYE BYE MCSAME/FAILIN
Posted by: dem in chicago | October 6, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
At this point in the elections McCain/Palin should not be personally attacking, then should be fighting “tooth and claw” to show the Amreican people how they will change things in Washington.
Posted by: formerhillary | October 6, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Monday, October 06, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows Barack Obama attracting 52% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. This is the highest level of support ever recorded for Obama and is his largest lead of the year. It also continues a remarkable twenty-five days in a row where the Democrat’s support has never declined by even a single point.
Posted by: Jeff | October 6, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
John McCain & Vag Cheney in ’08. Another Republican Depression in ’09.
Posted by: hamishdad | October 6, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
thats the problem FORMER HILLARY they are not showing us nothing all they have done is attack attack people dont want that, this is a hard time right now our country is crumbling. and they want to talk nonsense this is why they are losing!
Posted by: angie | October 6, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
As an older, white American and a Republican, I, for the first time in my life am ashamed of my own party and have decided to vote for Barack Obama and I’ll tell you why.
It was not only a complete embarrassment to our country, but also should scare THE HELL out of any American that we have someone running for the office of Vice President (Sarah Palin) who could not answer EVEN ONE question intelligently during a vice presidential debate, and this was after being prepped intensely for days before by my own party’s camp!
Nevermind the partisan nonsense, we have to think first of our national security and what is in the best long term interest of our country. I have grandchildren that I have to think about. We have too many serious, serious problems facing us that could affect the very survival of our planet to have someone who is treating this race so flippantly as Sarah Palin potentially in charge of our national security, economy and environment.
If her performance at the debate was the only thing we had to judge her intelligence, then perhaps I could have passed it off as just nervousness. But after the Katie Couric interview where serious questions about her ability to lead or even being able to seriously comprehend the problems we face today were raised, I expected to see someone with much sharper answers at the debate and was dismally disappointed. She did not relay the fears she instilled in the public that she and McCain are the riskier proposition when it comes to national security because they seem to be out of touch or just don’t understand what needs to be done to move this nation forward.
I am an American first. Not a white American or Republican. And if others are just not using patriotism as a catch phrase that makes them sound important, they will not look at this election in terms of black or white and fall into comfortable prejudices and stereotypes, Republican or Democrat and fall into their own party corners, old or young and vote a certain way because someone tells them to or have always done it a certain way, and make choices that are in the BEST INTEREST OF AMERICA; the land of the free and home of the brave enough to vote their conscience instead of from their pre-programmed views that might not reflect the reality of the situation we face today.
In my 83 years on this earth, I have never seen this country in such dire peril. If we make the wrong choices now, for the wrong reasons, we might never have another chance to correct the course where it might take us.
Posted by: John | October 6, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
World events are starting to make John McCain look like a classic idiot.
Posted by: euro.guy | October 6, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
McCain and Palin already stopped fighting for the American people.
The only thing they still fight for is their own political survival.
Their fall will be painful.
Posted by: hart | October 6, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
01-20-2009 The End of an ERROR…
Posted by: pt | October 6, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
When McCain had been in the Senate for years (58 yo?)he intervened in the Keating Bank scandal and got busted for it. “The biggest mistake” of my life, he said. When Obama was 8 yo at the height of the Vietnam War, a guy Obama would meet decades later made a big mistake too. Obama should have known better.
Reckless, impulsive and cynical. McCain is too erratic to have his “Finger on the Button”.
Bush/McCain. No More Years!!!!!
Posted by: thebob.bob | October 6, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Every politician has gone through the process of joining the fray through some one’s blessing.For Obama it happened to be Ayers and Rev Wright’s church in South Chicago.He has shown resiliency in the face of these attacks in the primary.These associations may have been the end of many a politician’s career but not for Obama.
Posted by: viv | October 6, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Seah, you are so out of touch with reality I’m surprised you know how to use the internet.
A majority of the public has not switched to supporting Obama because they think he’s some kind of God, it’s because what he’s saying makes sense. He’s talking about the economy, McCain and Palin are talking irrelevant nonsense from the past. What in this don’t YOU get?
Posted by: Jake | October 6, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Can’t win on domestic policy
Can’t win on international policy
Can’t win on tax policy
Can’t win on medical care policy
Can’t win on financial policy
Can’t win on credibility (thanks Palin!)
Can’t win on judgment
Can’t win on personality
Can’t win with old war stories
Can’t win by winking and faking it
Can’t even win getting mavericky
Uh, lets try name calling. Yah, that’s the ticket.
“I would rather sell my integrity than lose an election”
Posted by: Desperation Sets In | October 6, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
The decision to stoop to character assassination will backfire on the McCain campaign.
The idiots who fall for this kind of nastiness wouldn’t vote for Obama anyway. But such attacks turn off independents and undecideds — whose support McCain desperately needs. And it could turn off some of his less-than-solid supporters. Given Obama’s lead in the polls, McCain can’t afford this.
And this election, Democrats are determined not to let Swift Boat-type attacks go unanswered. If McCain persists in calling a tenuous connection between Obama and Ayers “palling around with terrorists,” a lot of his own and Palin’s associations and actions are now fair game:
Keating, Bonnano, gambling, Gordon Liddy, troopergate, Alaska secession, witchdoctor, library censorship, not to mention McCain’s recent erratic behavior and long history of problems controlling his anger.
Posted by: Alex | October 6, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
“Articles like this one are part of the MSM’s attempts to help Obama win this election.”
YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE BEGINNING TO MAKE UP EXCUSES FOR MCCAIN LOSING THE ELECTION.
This particular strategy is called “Let’s create an air of inevitability for Barack’s election. Pro-Obama journalists try to convince McCain supporters that the election is lost, hoping they won’t bother to get out and vote.
ACTUALLY, IT MAY KEEP DEMOCRATS FROM GOING OUT TO VOTE IF THEY THINK HE HAS IT IN THE BAG.
Polls are skewed to make Obama’s election seem inevitable. Like the following network Poll: 87% of Democrats support Obama. Really? I don’t think so. I know too many Democrats who are voting for McCain to believe that little bit of poll data.
I’M NOT SURE WHAT POLL YOU LOOKED AT, BUT MOST OF THE MAJOR POLLING SITES (LIKE RASMUSSEN) HAVE A HISTORY OF ACCURATELY PREDICTING THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION. JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH WITH HE RESULTS DOES NOT MEAN THEY CHEATED.
Posted by: Reason | October 6, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
– On CBS recently, Katic Couric asked both McCain and Obama what the favorite movie was. McCain named some movie (can’t remember the name) about a man who gave up his life for his country. Obama said all the Godfather movies –
McCain said his favorite movie was Viva Zapata! a 1952 Marlon Brando movie.
Obama said The Godfathers 1 and 2, not so much 3, Lawrence of Arabia and Casablanca.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=30666
Guess they both happen to like Brando. And don’t try to read too much into favorite movies.. the Godfather won 3 oscars and numerous other awards, and according to some polls, has been rated one of the greatest movies of all time:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/news#ni0573079
Posted by: MovieBuff | October 6, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
It’s about time we visit the truth about Barrack Obama. Rev Racist Wright, Bill “the Bomb” Ayers, Tony Rezco, Obama is steeped in Anti-American, Corrupt activities and he has been able to escape scrutiny because of lousy press organizations like ABC and this biased article.
Go McCain!
ABC= “Another Barrack Channel”
Posted by: Don | October 6, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Has anyone considered the threat to our national security posed by the fact that McCain was in a POW camp, brainwashed and tortured for years by people who are still enemies of this government? With his recent erratic behavior, he seems more the like time bomb we should be worried about going off. He’s so erratic he seems like he’s even willing to sabotage his own campaign with decisions like picking a VP candidate so unqualified that he’s only met once without fully vetting her and now pulling out of a key state like Michigan. Do we really want someone like this answering that famous 3am phone call????
Posted by: Karen | October 6, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
This is the lowest form of politics. It is desperation and it clearly shows that the GOP ticket doesn’t even buy what it is selling. If they believed that their policies and their maverickiness was so great, that is what they would be selling, but since we know that that is just a punch line to the last 8 years of poorly done set up, they just kick dirt on home plate.
Posted by: Danny | October 6, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Look McCain is just completely out of touch with the American people that is people on mainstreet. He has catered to the Big companines for so long he has know idea what mainstreet even is. I am so sick of hearing he is a Maverick he is a Maverick without a plan when it comes to people like myself and others that make under$ 250,000, you know talk is cheap and his words mean nothing. Not once in the VP debate could Palin defend him so what dose that tell Americans. And for Palin to talk about Jounalistic ethics look at her, she is a puppet for McCain telling people things about Obama that happened 40
years ago when he was 8 years old, she needs to get her facts straight before she opens her mouth. I am an independent but I am going with Obama he has a plan for this country & I truly beleive he will make this a better country in the next 4 years.
Posted by: Joanne,WI | October 6, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Oh MY!! Look at all the whiny NeoConnies on this board shaking their pom-poms in anger and frustration! McCranky, Pull’in Palin, and the GOP are going down the toilet after the big flush Nov. 4th.
Posted by: Trish | October 6, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
MCCAIN: “Uh, I, I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.” [The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000]
It seems his own statements are coming back to haunt him!!
Posted by: mcsame | October 6, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
MCCAIN: “Uh, I, I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.” [The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000]
It seems his own statements are coming back to haunt him!!
Posted by: mcsame | October 6, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Did you read McCain’s book?
Few facts he forgot to mention.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
Posted by: Sebass | October 6, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
– Has anyone considered the threat to our national security posed by the fact that McCain was in a POW camp, brainwashed and tortured for years by people who are still enemies of this government? –
Not only that, but he voted against HR2082, the Intelligence Authorization Act of 2008, which contained language stating: “No individual … shall be subject to any treatment or technique of interrogation not authorized by the United States Army Field Manual on Human Intelligence Collector Operations.” which was added after the ‘waterboard’ torture incidents came to light. The bill passed both the house and senate anyway, but was then vetoed by the numnuts currently in office.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 6, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
This is so easy for Obama. He can fight back hard against McCain in debates, when the vile mud from McCain’s McNasty mouth starts spewing. This quite unlike in debates between Obama and Hillary Clinton. He could not point out any of Hillary’s baggage because she was a woman. Just like Biden could not point out or engage Palin in any of her many negatives. Our society will ideologically just not allow it. a man can not attack a woman in any way at all, even if what he says is true. Look for Obama to talk strongly about McCain’s horrid past, including Keating Five, McCain’s lobbiest love, McCain’s erratic behavior, McCain’s absent voting record, McCain’s 90% support for Bush, and like Biden, challenge McCain’s fakey mavericky image. McCain is not a woman, and he has a long history of an unstable temperament. He is unfit for duty. Obama can take the gloves off, and fight old man McCain toe to toe. By the way, if you haven’t seen the SNL video of Palin/Biden, you’re missing out some hilarious stuff!
Posted by: Joan | October 6, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
McCain’s “shady associations” with PNAC and Hearst Corp. have destroyed his credibility. His campaign is an uncontrolled demolition.
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/barry-jennings-speaks/
Posted by: gabriel | October 6, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Just don’t think McCain’s attempts to change the subject will work.
He can “turn the page” from the economy, but most Americans can’t, because the economy isn’t just something talked about for the half hour or so they get to watch the evening news.
The DOW is crashing backwards below 10,000 as we speak.
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Here is McCain on war:
LEHRER: .. when should the United States deploy its armed forces abroad, and what criteria should be used? Are you comfortable with the decision-making that would – that a Bush-Cheney- Powell triumvirate would make?
McCAIN: Yes. I’m extremely comfortable and basically it’s when American interests and values are threatened. And sometimes when our values are threatened, over time our interests can be threatened. I can’t make an argument to you that Kosovo posed an immediate threat to our national interest. But I can argue that it offended our values to a degree that if allowed to go unchecked, then unrestrained, once Milosevic started to do his ethnic cleansing, then sooner or later our interest would be threaten because that same kind of scenario would transpire in other places in Europe.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/july-dec00/mccain_8-1.html
Is this the America of the past? Where we send in the troops because our “value
s” are threatened?
Posted by: ScaredOfMcCain | October 6, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
ScaredofMcCain – no, in the past our foreign policy and national security decisionmaking was actually conservative (as opposed to being conservative in name only).
We made decisions based on tangible U.S. interest.
Actually the roots of much of the current stereotypes of Republicans versus Democrats on national security stem from this. Democrats truly were liberal then, and Republicans truly were conservative. Democrats occassionally saw limited military engagement as a means of making things better, while Republicans would argue the laws of unintended consequences.
From that perspective, sending Green Berets to Vietnam to advise the South Vietnamese about how to stem the spread of communision there was truly liberal.
What McCain is advocating is a traditional liberal view of foreign policy and national security.
But he’s advocating it in an erratic manner. He says our values were threatened by human rights violations in the Balkans, but not in several worse areas of Africa?
He’s really not very steady, either with his conservative or his liberal views.
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
I guess someone needs to bring up Obama’s past radical associations because the media isn’t going to. Just wait, this is just the beginning of what is going to come out about Obama. The Obama Kool Aide drinkers need to google Acorn and see how this is connected to Fannie and Freddie and Obama is connected to both of these. Do any of the Obama zombies realize that the mortgage crisis was caused by the Dems? Instead of just listening to Obama like a zombie, why don’t people actually look up information and read it. Obama will say anything to get elected but go look at what his record is and who he supported.
Posted by: Kim | October 6, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Kim,
are you aware that McCain received more in campaign contributions from Freddie/Fannie than any other politician? Are you aware that McCain has 19 paid staffers on his campaign that were registered lobbyists for Freddie/Fannie? Are you aware that McCain voted for de-regulation bills 17 times in the last five years? Instead of just drinking the GOP kool-aid like a zombie, perhaps you could look up the facts.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 6, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Kim: “Do any of the Obama zombies realize that the mortgage crisis was caused by the Dems.”
Kim, you’ve been victimized by Republican talking points.
Is Fannie/Freddie predominantly a Democratic monster? Yes.
Did Fannie/Freddie cause our current economic crisis? No.
Assuming you have decent credit, ask yourself this: Was it Fannie/Freddie filling your mailbox with mortgage and easy credit offers, or other lenders?
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Anyone who tries to compare Palin’s investigation with the tropper incident to Obama’s associations with Ayers, Renzki, Wright, Acorn and several others, is brainwashed. There is no comparison because this shows a patter of Obama associating with left wing radicals and clearly with Acorn, Obama’s attempt to take the free-market from American Economy. People need to shake off the Obama brain washing and actual research Obama’s past.
Posted by: Kim | October 6, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Obama was 8 years old when the Weathermen were active. His encounters with Ayers were when Ayers was a university professor. McCain on the other hand was an adult bosom buddy of domestic criminal and economic terrorist Charles Keating, who runied the lives of thousands of citizens
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 6, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Oh, and Kim, if John McCain’s bill regarding Fannie/Freddie had been enacted, it would have done nothing to stem this problem.
McCain heard reports of bad accounting and he signed on as a co-sponsor of an existing bill that would create an accounting oversight entity to check the Fannie/Freddie books.
While that may have been good (I really don’t have an opinion on that) we also should acknowledge it was yet another expansion of government by creating yet another oversight layer. In other words, it was trying to fix bad layers of government by putting a new layer on top, rather than directly addressing the bad layer.
This is how the government has gotten so big.
That aside, the government expansion McCain advocated in this case would not have had any impact whatsoever on the problems that led to our current situation.
It really is nothing more than a campaign talking point designed for people who don’t understand the crisis, to win support for a candidate who acknowledged not understanding the economy. Nothing more.
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
People need to look beyond the pandering flag waving and exploitation of the “professional POW” status and look at McCain’s dismal record.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 6, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
William – I’d say that people need to avoid the distractions and just realize that we’re in an economic crisis, and one of the candidates:
a) acknowledged this year he doesn’t understand the economy
b) said in recent weeks the fundamentals of our economy were strong
and c) then lied (and we all know it was a lie) by saying he meant workers when he said “fundamentals.”
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Dear sweet little adorable Sarah…
Since we’re talking about guilt by association, I am sure that you will not be upset when the Democrats start airing ads showing that your husband was a member of a group that favored Alaskan secession from the United States.
People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones……
Let not forget Sarah Palin association’s with the radical Alaska Independence Party that wants to secede from this great country, the United States of America.
And here is a quote from Alaskan Independence Party founder Joe Voegler:
“The fires of Hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag!”
I wonder how Palin explains her husband”s verified membership in the “ALASKIAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY?” Seems she doesn”t believe in the UNITED States of America, does she??
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Well said, Paul
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 6, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
This election was over when the Bush administration pushed us into the Iraq war. The fallout from this war on our reputation, economy, and lives lost will doom the republicans for many years to come unless the dems do something equally stupid which isn’t out of the question. It is really time to start looking at broadening the debate to other points of view, i.e. 3rd parties.
Posted by: Ben Straub | October 6, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
CHARACTER AND JUDGEMENT MATTER IN TIMES OF CRISIS, AND OBAMA IS NOT UP TO THE TASK.
Does anyone think either candidate will do anything WITH NO MONEY TO DO IT WITH?Please….it’s just a figurehead at this point, and Obama is the worst inexperienced liberal candidate EVER, and the DEMS are manipulating our youth and THEY REALLY KNOW ALOT ABOUT LIFE TO HAVE THE JUDGEMENT, right.
Cuba Gooding Jr. just walked 100 kids across the street to vote after registering in Ohio moments ago. This is like communism with the Obama campaign, and I say bring out Wright, Obama’s terriost half brother, every BO terriorist tie, and criminal Rezko is being sentenced Oct. 28. OBAMA IS WRONG ON HIS JUDGEMENT AND CHARACTER AND DANGEROUS FOR U.S. OF KKK, as the good Rev. refers to it.!!!!!
Posted by: DLM | October 6, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
The smears and claims about Gov. Palin and her husband won’t work. There is no one that wouldn’t think the Palin’s ARE AS ALL AMERICAN AS IT GETS. The “EXOTIC” B. Hussein….NOT SO MUCH. He really hates the American flag and loves to talk down about his country, as he did in Germany.
NEVER OBAMA!!!!
Posted by: DLM | October 6, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Desperation is dangerous. McCain has called upon the forces of the Dark Art, a move that never has a positive outcome. This is a scary time in American politics. ……..
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/06/mccain-the-dark-arts-of-rovian-politics/
Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | October 6, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
The smears against Obama are the sign of desperation on the part of cut-throat Karl Rove-type campaign operatives. The OBAMA’S ARE AS AMERICAN AS IT GETS. The lies about the flag on his plane are just that lies. Factcheck.org have published photos of both McCain and Obama’s planes, and the flag APPEARS IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE ON THE PLANE. John McCain is a hypocrite and a Bush-baby through and through.
“NO WAY, NOT EVER, NO MCCAIN” (Sen. Hillary Clinton)
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 6, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Vote for McCain Palin. They have a plan and it is not just talk. Issues….Reform our Trade market which will eventually keep more jobs here….Reform Taxes, Pro-Growth Tax Policy, Innovation Tax Policy, it is Simpler, Fair, Pro-Growth and Competitive…….Health Care Reforms: To Reduce The Rate Of Health Care Inflation, To Make Health Insurance Innovative, Portable And Affordable……Reform Energy for America, Transform Electricity, Expand Domestic Production Of Oil And Gas, Addressing Speculative Pricing Of Oil and Lord knows we need to close the doors to those speculators opinions where they do not effect prices at the pump. Also, Transform Transportation and Building Efficiency………Supporting Small Businesses, Lower Energy Costs to small businesses will help, also Controlling Health Care Cost for employees……. Taxes: John McCain’s plan is Simpler, Fair, Pro-Growth, And Competitive…….Opening New Markets…I can not give you the details on each of these, you must visit the web page. The plan is right there for you. You do not need to ask someone on the board visit this page. http://www.johnmccain.com/Undecided/WhyMcCain.htm
Posted by: U.S.For.McCain.Yeah. | October 6, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Do you really want to put our Nation we protect and hold so dear in the hands of someone who will not salute our Flag or pledge allegiance to our Nation? http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/obama-does-not-salute-the-flag/…. Do you really trust this person? Look at his background and the people he surrounds himself with. I will grant you the fact he distanced himself from them when America let him know we do not like that, but do you really believe those relationships will not mend if you put him in our Nations capitol? There have got to be some alarms sounding off in your gut somewhere!
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/238/…..Then visit this site for a real plan.http://www.johnmccain.com/Undecided/WhyMcCain.htm
When O’bomb’a was making friends and smoking peace cigars with radicals, laughing and planning on taking over our government, McCain was proving how far he will go to fight for you.
Posted by: U.S.For.McCain.Yeah. | October 6, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
McCain’s “spiritual advisors” (his words) are the Reverends John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Rev. Hagee has said that Katrina was sent by God to punish N.O. He has characterized the Catholic Church as a “Great Wh*re.” He said that God sent Hitler to force the Jews to Israel. The Rev. Parsley has merely called for an all-out war against Islam all over the planet. MCCAIN HAS NEVER REPUDIATED EITHER ONE OR THEIR STATEMENTS!
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 6, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
factcheck.org
photos of Obama being sworn in to the Senate using a bible
Video of Obama leading the pledge in the Senate.
Photo of the american flag on Obama plane.
Photo of birth certificate with raised seal, of Obama from Hawaii.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT BE FOOLED BY THE NASTY SMEARS OF EVIL PEOPLE LIKE MCCAIN AND PALIN.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 6, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Everyone including me are wasting our time here. The election is over. Democratic populists who are members of a party not currently in the White House ALWAYS win in huge fashion when the economy is tanking. I would like to point out the Economy is not just tanking, it is imploding big time. Voters blame and punish those in power. Basic Politics 101. Repubs just need to give it up and go home. Forget about retiring. Your big retirement plans have been devastated. You will now have to pay for your greed and sins against the country by working through your retirement years, like the rest of us. McCain on the other hand can announce his retirement, and live the high life. He’s so rich that even a tanking economy and savaged financial market won’t affect his caviar and champagne resort-filled, 13 cars, 8 homes, elitist lifestyle. It’s the rest of us who will suffer from McCain’s direct involvement in the Keating Scandal, and the Fannie and Freddie Mac disasters. McCain and Bush heavily supported lobbyists and CEOs, and fought hard for continued deregulation all these years, and look at what the lack of oversight has done for us. McCain has always been bought and paid for by the lobbyists he surrounds himself with. Heaven help us.
Posted by: John | October 6, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Don’t forget to blame BUSH for the extraordinary ills that have befallen our country. Imagine where the USA would be right now if Gore had been elected president. Imagine no hugely expensive war in Iraq. Imagine more regulation of Wallstreet. Imagine more tax breaks for the middle class. Imagine legislation controlling obscene CEO salaries. Imagine a stable stock market and stable retirement plans. Imagine being able to retire someday. Imagine keeping and building up the budget surplus we had before Bush took office. Imagine a world that still respected the reputation of the good old USA. Imagine the changes we could have made to protect our environment, and the strides we could have made to become more dependent on foreign oil. Never forget what a mistake it was to vote for BUSH, the man you thought would be a great Joe-six-pack guy worthy of drinking a beer with. McCain like BUSH, is ignorant, having finished 5th from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy, after having been admitted as a legacy only because his daddy was an Admiral. Lord McCain and Yalie BUSH were both stupid, rebellious, heavily drinking hell-raisers in college. Two peas out of the same pod. Want more of the same for eight more years?
Posted by: John | October 6, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
DLM: “CHARACTER AND JUDGEMENT MATTER IN TIMES OF CRISIS, AND OBAMA IS NOT UP TO THE TASK.”
First, DLM, please check your caps lock.
Second, let’s look at character. McCain married a model, then dumped her after she was crippled in a car crash. He acknowledged multiple affairs.
Third, let’s look at judgment. McCain was censored by Congress during the Keating 5 hearings for lacking judgment. That’s the half of the findings you Republicans like to leave out. And his kneejerk emotionalism doesn’t speak well of his judgment, either. Nor does his erratic demeanor during the Georgian crisis and now during this economic crisis.
If that’s what you’re selling for character and judment, no thanks. I’ll take Obama every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
All you need to know about the bogus ‘Ayers’ connection:
Where did this smear start?
April 18, 2008
PHILADELPHIA –GOP mastermind Karl Rove, commenting on Bill O’Reilly’s Fox News show on Thursday, chastised Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for “hanging around” William Ayers.
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Hillary took it and ran.. it backfired on her.
The GOP has now picked it up the dead horse, and it too will backfire on them.
Posted by: ScaredOfMcCain | October 6, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Could it be that the media is throwing “their friend” John overboard for “Obamination”? And people think who they elect is their “choice.” Do yourself a favor and research Edward Bernays. He’s the reason you think the way you do. Aren’t you the least bit curious how he did it?
Posted by: hmn | October 6, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
—OBAMA
“That anger is not always productive,” Obama asserted. “Indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition.”
Why, then, given this call to reject “a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism,” did Obama establish a long-lasting working relationship with unrepentant former terrorist William Ayers?
Obama dismissed inquiries about his relationship with Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground, by saying that he was just “a guy who lives in my neighborhood.”
In fact, Obama served from 1995 to 1999 as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), the brainchild of Ayers, an organization that funneled some $100 million into the hands of community organizers and activists, including ACORN, in order to radicalize Chicago’s public schools.
Between 1969 and 1974, the Weather Underground claimed responsibility for some 20 bombings in the United States — at police stations, banks, jails, courthouses, the Capitol and the Pentagon. Ayers became a fugitive in 1970, reports Andy McCarthy at the National Review, after three of his cohorts were “accidentally killed when the explosive they were building to Ayers’ specifications — Ayers was a bomb designer — went off during construction.”
The explosive, a nail bomb, “had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey,” reports McCarthy. “Ayers attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, ‘tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too.’”
Ayers, describing the Weather Underground as “an American Red Army,” motivated by “hope,” succinctly summed up the organization’s mission: “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments.”
“I don’t regret setting bombs,” Ayers told The New York Times in September 2001. “I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Ayers, in charge of shaping CAC’s education philosophy, describes himself as “a radical, Leftist, small ‘c’ communist.” Rather than focusing on anything as mundane as math or reading, the job of teachers, said Ayers, is to “teach against oppression.”
Ayers “downplayed achievement tests in favor of activism,” writes Stanley Kurtz, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
“Ayers wrote that teachers should be community organizers dedicated to provoking resistance to American racism and oppression,” reports Kurtz. “He believes teacher education programs should serve as ’sites of resistance’ to an oppressive system.”
The question: Why do Obama’s deeds contradict his words? Is anyone in the mainstream media curious??
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Economist Thomas Sowell: Do Facts Matter?
Fact Number One: It was liberal Democrats, led by Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, who for years– including the present year– denied that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were taking big risks that could lead to a financial crisis.
It was Senator Dodd, Congressman Frank and other liberal Democrats who for years refused requests from the Bush administration to set up an agency to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
It was liberal Democrats, again led by Dodd and Frank, who for years pushed for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to go even further in promoting subprime mortgage loans, which are at the heart of today’s financial crisis.
Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush’s Secretary of the Treasury, five years ago.
Yet, today, what are we hearing? That it was the Bush administration “right-wing ideology” of “de-regulation” that set the stage for the financial crisis. Do facts matter?
We also hear that it is the free market that is to blame. But the facts show that it was the government that pressured financial institutions in general to lend to subprime borrowers, with such things as the Community Reinvestment Act and, later, threats of legal action by then Attorney General Janet Reno if the feds did not like the statistics on who was getting loans and who wasn’t.
Is that the free market? Or do facts not matter?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/do_facts_matter.html
http://tinyurl.com/4jdh7d
Posted by: LightSeeker | October 6, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Could it be that the media is throwing “their friend” John overboard for “Obamination”? And people think who they elect is their “choice.” Do yourself a favor and research Edward Bernays. He’s the reason you think the way you do. Aren’t you the least bit curious how he did it?
GOOGLE EDWARD BERNAYA!!!!!
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
People do notice.
Those who mislead are not leaders.
OBUMA has shown he is not a leader.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
ScaredofMcCain – my question is why the neo-cons haven’t been able to find the terrorist Ayers and bring him to justice?
I mean, that’s what they said they’d do, right?
No wonder we can’t find bin Laden in some cave in Pakistan. We can’t even find Bill Ayers in a University of Chicago classroom!
See, its another reason for electing Obama. At least he can find Ayers.
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Don’t you mean a few weeks ago, when the election was not yet UNFAIRLY drifting Obama’s way because of the current economic crisis that Obama and his Democratic counterparts appear to be the root cause of??
Obama, through his radical ties at ACORN, and his tactics training of their foot soldiers, who launched pressure attacks on banks and lending agencies in order to have them make home loans to unqualified borrowers, as well as his Democratic counterparts in Congress, particularly the Black Caucus, who refused to see the Fannie/Freddie problem even when it was staring them in the face, were one of the primary factors behind the economic meltdown, but yet Obama appears to be the beneficiary of the crisis, rather than appropriately receiving part of the blame.
In additioin, there appears to be rampant election fraud already developing in this race, once again through foot soldiers of ACORN, whom the Obama campaign was caught undeclaredly funneling $800,000 of campaign donations to in August. Every day there appears to be a new state reporting underhanded doings of ACORN regarding early voting and voter registration.
The MSM has fallen terribly short in their duty to the American public during this election by their obvious bias towards Obama, and their non-reporting of these off-color, if not illegal, activities.
If liberal America, the liberal media, and these far left liberal “community organizing” groups are not careful, the outcome of this election might end up in the lap of the U.S. Supreme Court, just like the 2000 election did.
And we all know how that one came out.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Lightseeker – sigh, I’m afraid you too have become a victim of stupid Republican campaign talking points.
Fannie/Freddie weren’t the cause of the crisis.
Ask yourself this. How many refinance mailers did you get in your mailbox from Fannie/Freddie, and how many from other lenders?
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
HP – are you seriously trying to parrot those Republican talking points that somehow Obama made the lenders act recklessly?
Its just amazing to me to watch this. We all lived through it, and it wasn’t that long ago.
I guess campaigns have a way of making us forget what we saw, though.
Posted by: Paul | October 6, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Sarah Palin purports to be a Christian,
and she deserves the benefit of the doubt. I assume she has read the Gospels and knows that her Lord and Master called Simon the Zealot to be His disciple. Jesus willingly associated with a “terrorist.”
Posted by: Linda in Virginia | October 6, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Hey Linda,
Did Jesus the community organizer originate ACORN?
Posted by: geevill | October 6, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Think you know and trust John McCain to be the next President?
you better read this and watch all the video’s
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
Posted by: Larry the cable guy | October 6, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Have no Fear! McCain will win!
Obama the Fraud will be exposed
in spite of the Liberal News Media
Coverup!
Posted by: reaganfan | October 6, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Jb in st. louis: “Articles like this one are part of the MSM’s attempts to help Obama win this election. This particular strategy is called “Let’s create an air of inevitability for Barack’s election.” Pro-Obama journalists try to convince McCain supporters that the election is lost, hoping they won’t bother to get out and vote. Polls are skewed to make Obama’s election seem inevitable. Like the following network Poll: 87% of Democrats support Obama. Really? I don’t think so. I know too many Democrats who are voting for McCain to believe that little bit of poll data.”
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Excellent post – I couldn’t have said it better myself. It all started with the primaries, don’t you think?
Is it really do important to elect the wrong candidate just to have a “historic” election?
Posted by: no thanks obama | October 6, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
euro.guy: “HP Boston, you will make nice pallbearer at Mr. McCain’s funeral, ha ha. His career is over, he is finished. Nice thing is that corpse animation technology is now so advanced that a cold cadaver can look alive, so Mr. McCain’s corpse can run again in 2012, ha ha.”
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I’ve seen some pretty hateful posts on here, but you’re among the worst. Since you are obviously an Obama supporter (from your other posts), please answer me: IS THIS REALLY THE KIND OF CHANGE WE CAN EXPECT UNDER BARACK OBAMA?
No thanks.
Posted by: no thanks obama | October 6, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
All of these right-wing McCain-Palin whiners just need to embrace reality. Your goofy ticket is going to LOSE!!!
Posted by: dannyboy | October 6, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
a convicted influence peddler who was once one of Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s most trusted confidants, has met with federal prosecutors and is considering cooperating in the corruption probe of the governor’s administration, sources told the Tribune.
Rezko’s possible change of heart—after years of steadfast refusal—has sent ripples through a tight circle of prominent defense attorneys who represent dozens of potential witnesses and targets in the wide-ranging probe.
His cooperation would give prosecutors investigating the governor and his wife access to someone they have described as an ultimate political insider at the center of a pervasive pay-to-play scheme.
Rezko’s trial this year laid bare a culture of scams, bribes and backroom deals stretching from City Hall to the Statehouse. It even became fodder in the presidential campaign of Democratic nominee Barack Obama, whose fundraising and personal ties to Rezko go back more than a decade.
Names linked to Rezko Multimedia Rezko has made no deal in the wake of his June corruption conviction, sources familiar with the situation said, but has had preliminary talks with prosecutors before an October sentencing that could put him in prison for years. Still, there are indications Rezko has already provided investigators with information.
Four attorneys have told the Tribune in recent days that federal prosecutors have telephoned them and other attorneys either with news Rezko is talking, or armed with details only Rezko could know. The lawyers speculated prosecutors are using the preliminary talks with Rezko to shake loose more cooperation from other witnesses.
“I had very recent a conversation with an assistant U.S. attorney that led me to believe they were getting specific information from either Mr. Rezko or Mr. Rezko’s lawyer,” said a defense attorney who said he represents a figure in the case. None of the attorneys interviewed would agree to be quoted by name, saying they didn’t want to hurt their clients.
The U.S. attorney’s office in Chicago declined to comment, as did Rezko’s attorney William Ziegelmueller.
Rezko’s potential worth to federal authorities extends to every aspect of their investigation, including probes of state hiring and real estate deals involving the governor’s wife. Prosecutors have portrayed Rezko, a former restaurant magnate and real estate developer, as intricately involved in some of the most guarded decisions since the earliest days of the administration.
During his trial, prosecutors described Rezko as having a direct line to the governor and his top aides on issues including policy and the appointments of key department heads and members of state regulatory boards. And, they charged, Rezko traded those positions and favors for some of the millions in campaign contributions he raised for the governor, and for the allegiance of those he lifted to influential posts.
One key aspect of the federal investigation centers on the real estate dealings of the governor’s wife, Patricia, who was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years as a broker for Rezko, his associates and others with business before the state. Federal investigators have subpoenaed records and conducted interviews regarding her real estate dealings. The governor and his wife have denied wrongdoing.
During the trial, three convicted political insiders testified about private meetings with the governor that prosecutors cited as evidence of a scheme to buy state jobs and business with campaign donations. Each testified that Blagojevich implied campaign donors would profit from his influence.
One of those witnesses, former Illinois Finance Authority Executive Director Ali Ata, testified that he attended a meeting at Rezko’s offices with Rezko and the governor before he was hired. At the meeting, Ata said, he brought a $25,000 check that was placed on the table in front of Blagojevich, who then mentioned a state job.
Rezko has adamantly denied guilt and vowed never to cooperate with federal investigators.
Two months before his conviction on fraud charges, Rezko typed a letter to his trial judge accusing “overzealous” prosecutors of pressuring him to talk about wrongdoing involving Obama or Blagojevich. Rezko said there was none to talk about.
“They are pressuring me to tell them the ‘wrong’ things that I supposedly know about Governor Blagojevich and Senator Obama,” Rezko wrote U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve in an April bid to be released on bail during his trial.
“I have never been party to any wrongdoing that involved the governor or the senator,” Rezko continued. “I will never fabricate lies about anyone else for selfish purposes. I will take what comes my way, but I will never hurt innocent people.”
Rezko was a political supporter of Obama going back to when he was running for state Senate. Obama’s ties to Rezko have become a political albatross for the presidential nominee, who has been forced to defend the convicted felon’s fundraising activities for him and revelations Obama bought his South Side mansion on the same day in 2005 that Rezko purchased a vacant lot next door.
Posted by: True American | October 6, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
McCain decision to personally attack Obama will be his last erratic move in his campaign; it will totally sink his ship. McCain has decided that the mavericky thing to do is to swift boat Obama by playing the guilt by association game. Great idea, Senator Straight Talk…but it’s no fun to play alone, so let’s add a couple of more players:
There’s McCain’s association with G. Gordon Liddy:
Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy’s radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled “John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07″ includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an “old friend.” During the segment, McCain praised Liddy’s “adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,” said he was “proud” of Liddy, and said that “it’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program.”
Point: McCain
And from Paul Begala:
But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.”
Point: McCain
And we can’t forget the mini-Maverick and her close and personal relationship with an America-hating secessionist group:
So, we have Sarah Palin, actively involved with a secessionist group that professes its hatred for America, and whose husband was a card-carrying member of the group for seven years. And don’t forget, Todd Palin isn’t just the spouse of an elected official. He has been called a Shadow Governor, attending private meetings, being sent on fact finding trips, and being copied on emails that were later “prohibited from being released to the public due to executive privilege.” This man would be a 72-year old heartbeat and a pillow away from the presidency.
Point: Palin
And let’s add Palin’s pesky, but largely ignored, preacher problem. Thomas Muthee, the preacher that Palin said helped her become governor:
…founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.
And while praying with Palin standing by his side, Muthee:
…implored Jesus to protect Palin from “the spirit of witchcraft.” The video archive of that startling sermon was scrubbed from Wasilla Assembly of God’s website, but now it has reappeared.
And during that same prayer, Muthee also said:
The second area whereby God wants us, wants to penetrate in our society is in the economic area. The Bible says that the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous. It’s high time that we have top Christian businessmen, businesswomen, bankers, you know, who are men and women of integrity running the economics of our nations. That’s what we are waiting for. That’s part and parcel of transformation. If you look at the — you know — if you look at the Israelites, that’s how they work. And that’s how they are, even today.
Yes, Palin listened to him calling for God to take banking and business out of the hands of Jews and later praised him and his sermon.
Point: Palin
Oh, and one more that we can’t forget. John McCain’s association with four men…in fact, if it wasn’t for John McCain’s intimate association with them, the Savings & Loan crisis that cost the American taxpayers $2.6 billion, would have been known as the Keating 4 instead of the Keating 5 scandal:
The Keating Five became synonymous for the kind of political influence that money can buy. As the S&L failure deepened, the sheer magnitude of the losses hit the press. Billions of dollars had been squandered. The five senators were linked as the gang who shilled for an S&L bandit.
S&L “trading cards” came out. The Keating Five card showed Charles Keating holding up his hand, with a senator’s head adorning each finger. McCain was on Keating’s pinkie.
Point: McCain
And on the other side we have Barack Obama who served on charitable boards, along with many others, with William Ayers, who was involved with a radical group when Obama was 8 years old. Oh, and they share a zip code.
Point: Zero
And the winner is, McCain and Palin. But when you think about it, this game really isn’t fair. While Obama had no association with Ayers’ radical past and has repeatedly denounced it, both McCain and Palin were personally involved with all of their players. But let’s let them enjoy their victory here. It’s the only one they’ll get.
Posted by: Natasha | October 6, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Paul | Oct 6, 2008 12:49:50 PM
Fannie/Freddie weren’t the cause of the crisis.
Ask yourself this. How many refinance mailers did you get in your mailbox from Fannie/Freddie, and how many from other lenders?
Paul I believe the way it works is that fannie and freddie back these loans that the banks and mortgage brokers sell Everything I read suggests that.
They put out there what they are willing to buy thats where these offers come from.After all they hold 70% of the mortgages in the country according to their own website.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 6, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
It really surprises me how ignorant the American people are and how willing they are to remain ignorant. It also is amazing to me that people will vote for someone merely based on party although that vote may mean the election of someone who may destroy their lifestyles if not their very lives. People are more than willing to listen to words rather than look at actions, I guess because they believe ignorance is bliss or they simply don’t care (I don’t know which is worse). Yet ignorance led to the rise of Hitler, World War II, the Holocaust, the rise of Fidel Castro, Idi Amin, and the list goes on.
So many people on this site are willing to shove Obama’s associations under the rug because he’s 1) a democrat, 2) McCain has had his fair share of scandals, and 3) the economy collapsed under Republicans. Number One is inarguable, every one votes along party lines unless something truly scares them about their party candidate or the other guy really connects with them on a particular issue. The second argument holds some water: McCain has had his share of scandals (the main one I hear about is the Keating 5 of which McCain was largely exonerated and happened 20 years ago). There are a couple others and if these scandals truly concern you then Obama’s should as well, but party lines tend to blind you. McCain’s people will turn a blind eye to his scandals and Obama’s people will turn a blind eye to Obama’s scandals. The third argument I could write a paper on. The main points though are that the financial crisis did not occur just because of Republicans. It occurred because of the actions, rules, regulations, and good ole boy reciprocity that the American people have allowed to happen over a thirty-year period under both republicans and democrats.
Now many of you may believe that you have figured me out and that I’m a McCain supporter and will therefore just blow me off, right smears about me or just go on another McCain smear. That is not the truth because I am not voting FOR either of these candidates. I will McCain down on my ballot because I believe Obama is the worse of the two evils, but I do not truly support McCain. I hope the day will come when I can vote for someone that I do support and who I believe will ACT in the best interests of the American people and not just one demographic, but all demographics.
But let me ask you this since the majority of the people on this site are Obama supporters. How can you believe that Obama is not a radical leftist who supports those who hate Americans and Jews when 1) he got to his position through the support of corrupt individuals, unrepentant terrorists, and organizations that use intimidation to gain power. It’s not just Rezko (slum lord), Ayers (who was not convicted because of legal technicalities), Wright and Flager (prechers of hate who shame their positions). It is also the fact that Obama gave $70,000 to Rashid Khalidi (former President of the Arab American Action Network), who worked on behalf of an organization that sponsored terrorism against Jews. By associating with these people, gaining power through them, and then minimizing his relationship with these immoral individuals and their activities, Obama legitimizes their power and ideals. He therefore passively supports those hate filled activities and words even if he does not outright condone them. These people: Rezko, Ayers, Wright, Flager, Khalidi, and others do not deserve any respect or power and yet Obama shows respect to these people and legitimizes their actions, thus giving them more power. While I have concerns about McCain, his actions and associations do not scare me the way Obama’s does and people have a reason to be terrified if Obama is elected President.
Again if this truly does not concern you, then what makes you believe Obama will be an effective President? He worked as a community organizer/lobbyist for years where he received millions of dollars to fund projects in Chicago. Yet during that time poverty, crime rates, and schools did not improve. Instead Obama just wasted millions of tax payer dollars at best, while furthering his career and the careers of corrupt individuals.
A person’s past shows you how a person will act in the future but basically the majority of the people on this site would rather ignore Obama’s past and focus on his words that contradict his actions. I guess again for many of you, ignorance is bliss.
Posted by: America’sDestruction | Oct 5, 2008 11:05:12 PM
Posted by: Lets Roll | October 6, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that forced the release of Hillary Clinton’s daily White House schedule on March 20, announced today that Barack Obama’s November 11, 2007 claim to cable TV news reporter Tim Russert—that “every single piece of information, every document related to state government” relating to Obama’s tenure in the state legislature “was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is… available right now”, appears to be false.
According to a February 25th letter from the Illinois Office of the Secretary of State in response to Judicial Watch’s open records request, “The ISA does not maintain Senator Obama’s personal records or papers. [Nor] does the ISA maintain records generated by his office. In addition, the ISA has received no requests from Senator Obama to archive any records formerly in his possession.”
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Said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton:
“Our investigation suggests Senator Obama could have had his records archived so that they are available to the public, but, to this day, has chosen not to do so. Apparently, he does not want a complete paper trail of his time in the Illinois State Senate. Where are his office records?”
Judicial Watch recently forced the release of Hillary Clinton’s White House daily schedule through a lawsuit, and is pursuing her phone logs.
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that forced the release of Hillary Clinton’s daily White House schedule on March 20, announced today that Barack Obama’s November 11, 2007 claim to cable TV news reporter Tim Russert—that “every single piece of information, every document related to state government” relating to Obama’s tenure in the state legislature “was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is… available right now”, appears to be false.
According to a February 25th letter from the Illinois Office of the Secretary of State in response to Judicial Watch’s open records request, “The ISA does not maintain Senator Obama’s personal records or papers. [Nor] does the ISA maintain records generated by his office. In addition, the ISA has received no requests from Senator Obama to archive any records formerly in his possession.”
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Said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton:
“Our investigation suggests Senator Obama could have had his records archived so that they are available to the public, but, to this day, has chosen not to do so. Apparently, he does not want a complete paper trail of his time in the Illinois State Senate. Where are his office records?”
Judicial Watch recently forced the release of Hillary Clinton’s White House daily schedule through a lawsuit, and is pursuing her phone logs.
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that forced the release of Hillary Clinton’s daily White House schedule on March 20, announced today that Barack Obama’s November 11, 2007 claim to cable TV news reporter Tim Russert—that “every single piece of information, every document related to state government” relating to Obama’s tenure in the state legislature “was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is… available right now”, appears to be false.
According to a February 25th letter from the Illinois Office of the Secretary of State in response to Judicial Watch’s open records request, “The ISA does not maintain Senator Obama’s personal records or papers. [Nor] does the ISA maintain records generated by his office. In addition, the ISA has received no requests from Senator Obama to archive any records formerly in his possession.”
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Said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton:
“Our investigation suggests Senator Obama could have had his records archived so that they are available to the public, but, to this day, has chosen not to do so. Apparently, he does not want a complete paper trail of his time in the Illinois State Senate. Where are his office records?”
Judicial Watch recently forced the release of Hillary Clinton’s White House daily schedule through a lawsuit, and is pursuing her phone logs.
Posted by: Lets Roll | October 6, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Read and Read and Read my friends.
Posted by: Lets Roll | October 6, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
McCain on running for president in 2008 – August 1, 2000
JIM LEHRER: Finally, for the record, you have not lost your desire to be President of the United States, have you?
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: Certainly it’s been put in deep cold storage.
JIM LEHRER: But you haven’t lost it?
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: Well, in 2004, I expect to be campaigning for the reelection of President George W. Bush, and by 2008, I think I might be ready to go down to the old soldiers home and await the cavalry charge there.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/july-dec00/mccain_8-1.html
Posted by: Natasha | October 6, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
>> Said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton:
>> “Our investigation suggests Senator
>> Obama could have had his records
>> archived so that they are available
>> to the public, but, to this day, has
>> chosen not to do so. Apparently, he
>> does not want a complete paper trail
>> of his time in the Illinois State
>> Senate. Where are his office records?”
While I have no idea why his personal records would be made available to the public, and can only guess as to the motivation for wanting them, all the legislation Obama sponsored and co-sponsored while in the Illinois Senate is available on-line for anyone who wishes to view it, complete with full text.
http://www.ilga.gov/PreviousGA.asp
Posted by: Concerned American | October 6, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Friends of Obama: Advisor Pledged $1 Trillion in Sub-Prime Loans As Fannie Mae CEO
James A. Johnson–the man chosen by Sen. Barack Obama to lead his vice presidential search committee—served as head of the Federal National Mortgage Association, or “Fannie Mae,” from 1991 to 1998, receiving a reported $21 million in compensation upon his departure.
As CEO of Fannie Mae, Johnson set a goal of buying up $1 trillion in low-income mortgage loans, a move that eventually helped trigger what would become the sub-prime mortgage crisis.
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Almost immediately upon taking the helm at Fannie Mae in 1991, Johnson began expanding low-income mortgage lending, unveiling a $10 billion plan to expand low- and moderate-income mortgage lending by using the “3/2 option.”
This option allowed low-income borrowers to secure mortgages by providing just 3 percent of the required 5-percent down payment from their own funds. The other 2 percent could come either as a gift from a family member or a grant from a non-profit agency or state or local government.
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The $1 trillion expansion of sub-prime loans was “a contributing factor” to the current financial crisis, according to economist David John of The Heritage Foundation, “but it was not the only factor.” Fannie Mae policies on credit-scoring played an equally important role–and Johnson’s policies set the stage there, too.
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“We abhor the use of credit scoring as a way to deny housing finance to those people who need help the most,” Johnson said. “We won’t put mechanical systems and arbitrary numbers above our faith in your [local lenders’] judgment and we won’t go back and second guess loans you’ve already made…if they don’t match up to a new way of assessing risks or doing business.”
Johnson called the higher interest rates paid by sub-prime borrowers a “tremendous burden” for families and said “it seems we can make A’s out of B’s and C’s in many circumstances” by giving less weight to factors such as divorce or job loss, which would normally lower credit scores.
Johnson further advanced his $1-trillion low-income loan initiative by expanding to more than 50 the number of partnership offices in cities across the country, and boasted in 1997 that Fannie Mae was “on course” to reach the $1 trillion goal by the end of the decade.
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=36563
Posted by: LightSeeker | October 6, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Friends of Obama: Meet Franklin D. Raines
Franklin D. Raines, former chief executive of Fannie Mae, and two other top executives are paying a total of nearly $31.4 million over their roles in a 2004 accounting scandal in a settlement that the government announced Friday.
Mr. Raines; the former chief financial officer, J. Timothy Howard; and the former controller, Leanne G. Spencer, were accused in a civil lawsuit in December 2006 of manipulating earnings over a six-year period at the company, the largest American financier and guarantor of home mortgages.
Mr. Raines, a prominent Washington figure who was President Bill Clinton’s budget director, has agreed to pay $24.7 million, including a $2 million fine. Mr. Howard is paying $6.4 million and Ms. Spencer $275,000.
Mr. Raines will also give up company stock options valued at $15.6 million.
Fannie and Freddie both had multibillion-dollar accounting scandals that stunned Wall Street and brought record civil fines against them in settlements with the government.
Ofheo had sought fines of around $100 million against the three and restitution totaling more than $115 million in bonus money tied to an improper accounting scheme.
The regulators said an accounting fraud at Fannie Mae included manipulations to reach earnings targets so that Mr. Raines, Mr. Howard, Ms. Spencer and other company executives could pocket hundreds of millions in bonuses from 1998 to 2004.
- New York Times, April 19, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/business/19fannie.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Posted by: LightSeeker | October 6, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Claim: Obama’s top adviser is former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines
Fact: False
Reality:
Many e-mails, blogs and even McCain political television ads have been attempting to connect Obama to the former CEO of failed mortgage giant Fannie Mae, and claiming that Raines is a close adviser to Obama on “housing and mortgage policy”. However, Raines has issued a statement claiming “I am not an adviser to Barack Obama, nor have I provided his campaign with advice on housing or economic matters.” The claim apparently originates with several articles appearing in the Washington Post that rely on a single conversation between Raines and a Washington Post business reporter, Anita Huslin.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/19/AR2008091903604.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 6, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Nothing left to do but prepare for an all Dem government…Personally sold my stock, before the downturn, dumbing down my income, by refusing extra hours and taking more time off so that I will not be paying higher taxes..only one problem the Dems will see is that you can bet I am not the only Repub that will be restructuring their finanaces to avoid those tax increases…What will the Dems do?? Guess they will probably have to go after the “middle class also. Not to mention some of our finest made be making a fast exit out of the military under an Obama administration..Guess more Dems are going to have to send their kids to Afghan to support Obama’s plan…my fellow repubs pull up a chair and watch the show for the next 4 years…should be interesting….
Posted by: socalrepub | October 6, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Keating Five Member is Obama Surrogate
“If Barack Obama is so outraged at John McCain’s involvement in the Keating Five scandal, why is John Glenn, another Keating Five member, doing surrogate work for Obama?”
http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/10/06/keating_five_member_is_obama_surrogate
Posted by: LightSeeker | October 6, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Obama can swift boat with the best of them, The boat goes up the river and then comes down the river with the same old horse crap.
Posted by: Rose Szymanskir | October 6, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Claim: Former Fannie Mae CEO James A. Johnson was an Obama Financial Advisor
Fact: False/Misleading
Reality:
In May 2008, Senator Obama asked James Johnson to be one of a three member panel tasked with vetting potential vice-presidential running mates. Mr. Johnson had also served in similar positions, chairing the vice presidential selection committee for John Kerry in 2004, and had been campaign manager for Walter Mondale’s failed 1984 presidential bid.
A month later, after an article in the Wall Street Journal raised questions about more than $2 million in home loans that might have been below average market rates, Mr. Johnson resigned from his position in the Obama campaign. In a statement, Senator Obama said, “Jim did not want to distract in any way from the very important task of gathering information about my vice presidential nominee, so he has made a decision to step aside that I accept”.
The Wall Street Journal also adds “The controversy has diverted attention from expected Republican nominee John McCain’s repeated problems with lobbyists who have worked for his campaign, but stepped aside because of perceived conflicts of interest between their clients and the senator’s political positions”.
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121321030258665089.html
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/fanniemae.asp
Posted by: Concerned American | October 6, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Here is McCain on when to use Armed Forces – August 1, 2000:
LEHRER: .. when should the United States deploy its armed forces abroad, and what criteria should be used? Are you comfortable with the decision-making that would – that a Bush-Cheney- Powell triumvirate would make?
McCAIN: Yes. I’m extremely comfortable and basically it’s when American interests and values are threatened. And sometimes when our values are threatened, over time our interests can be threatened. I can’t make an argument to you that Kosovo posed an immediate threat to our national interest. But I can argue that it offended our values to a degree that if allowed to go unchecked, then unrestrained, once Milosevic started to do his ethnic cleansing, then sooner or later our interest would be threaten because that same kind of scenario would transpire in other places in Europe.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/july-dec00/mccain_8-1.html
Posted by: Willy | October 6, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
John McCains stand on Taxes – Feb. 2, 2000
JIM LEHRER: There was a suggestion today from some of Governor Bush’s supporters that maybe you’re not really a true blue Republican, that some of the things you support like campaign finance reform and your opposition to tax cuts are more like Gore and Bradley and Clinton and Democrats than Republican.
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: Well, I’m much more like Ronald Reagan, actually, than the present hierarchy of our party. I’m for tax cuts, but I’m for working Americans. Governor Bush wants to give 38 percent of his tax cuts to the wealthiest 1 percent. I want to give it to working families.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/jan-june00/mccain_2-2.html
Posted by: Willy | October 6, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
LightSeeker scribbled: “If Barack Obama is so outraged at John McCain’s involvement in the Keating Five scandal, why is John Glenn, another Keating Five member, doing surrogate work for Obama?”
Oh honey, are you really that out of touch with reality?? John McCain wasn’t just ‘involved’ with the Keating-5, he was one of them dear! In fact, he was a very close personal friend of Mr. Keating, unlike the others involved, and flew all over with him in his private jet, even going on vacation with his family and baby sitter to Mr. Keatings private island in the Bahamas several times. And dear, if he didn’t think there was anything wrong with his friendship, why did McCain wait until the scandal began to surface many years later to pay Mr. Keating for some of those plane rides? Please hun, do a little research on the subject, and stop trying to play the ‘conspiracy theory’ mud slinger. It will only backfire. As John McCain himself said back in his campaign against Dubba, “Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.”
(NewsHour with Jim Lehrer 2/21/2000)
Posted by: Janice | October 6, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
When will the MSM bring the World Anti-Communist League up. McCain being a board member of its American counterpart (the U.S. Council for World Freedom) has been totally neglected so far, maybe because it concerns such an explosive scandal that involves some dirty aspects of American foreign policies under Reagan and, earlier, Nixon.
If it would be addressed by the MSM, the Keating Five scandal would be peanuts in comparison. And that for many reasons, but certainly for this one: the League carried out political assassinations and formed contra-guerrilla movements in all areas of conflict, including in Afghanistan where it was headed by….
yes, by Osama Bin Laden.
The World Anti-Communist League was founded in Taiwan by Chiang Kai-shek, reverend Moon and Axis who were (Nazi and Japanese) war criminals.
The WACL was first used by Nixon to extend counter-insurgency methods into South-East Asia and Latin America. Seven heads of State participated in its meetings at that time. Later, it was revived in the Reagan era, becoming an instrument of the U.S. military industrial complex and the CIA during the Cold War.
As said, it carried out political assassinations and formed contra-guerrilla movements in all areas of conflict, including in Afghanistan where it was headed by Osama Bin Laden.
Hugo Banzer of Bolivia, Jorge Rafael Videla of Argentina and Alfredo Stroessner of Paraguay were all well-known members.
One of the most notorious criminals in Argentina and in the region was former General Guillermo Suarez Mason, an important figure in the World Anti-Communist League and a top Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) agent; he was influential during the Argentine military dictatorship (1976-1983) and one of the “experts” in the Dirty War, counter-insurgency and repression, proceeding mercilessly in these activities while he held the post of Chief of the Army First Corps between 1976 and 1980, a period which abounded in kidnappings, torture, deaths and disappearances in the clandestine detention centres of which he was in charge.
He also played a key role as an Argentine military death-squad advisor within the Central American saga and was a partner of John Negroponte’s, the then U.S. Ambassador in Honduras, in the signing of the criminal pacts and alliances that were made in Central America in the 1980’s.
It might be time to learn some more about McCain’s work for this scandalous organisation.
“People know me,” is McCain’s mantra these days.
No, they do not.
Posted by: bernd | October 6, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
The choice is simple, just look at the issues!
McCain: Huge tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations (how can he say he is for ‘main street’?)
Obama: Tax cuts for working American, increases (although, less than under Clinton) for the top 5%
McCain: Dismal health plan with more Americans losing coverage
Obama: Superior health plan with more americans gaining coverage (and businesses providing it getting an estimated $140 billion annually in savings)
McCain: Congress needs to study enron loophole (even though congress has already tried to close it and Bush has vetoed it twice!)
Obama: Close loophole now, immediate drop in gas prices for americans!
McCain: D- student with poor navy background
Obama: Harverd Law magna cum laude graduage and constitutional law expert
McCain: Shoot first, ask questions later
Obama: Diplomacy and dialog with military as last resort
McCain: More oil, nuclear (and wait 7 years or longer till we see results)
Obama: Faster shift to alternative fuels and improved recovery on existing reserves
McCain: We will win Iraq quickly, be greeted as liberators and it will be a swift change to a new iraqi government
Obama: Opposed war, wanted to go after the real target behind 9/11
When you look at the issues, you would have to be as dumb as Bush if you didn’t vote Obama!
Posted by: Janice | October 7, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
Obama has been lying to the American public and ABC is just one of the news outlets that have been letting him get away with it.
This article from NRO is a good one. At least some of the media report it the way is should be. They have integrity which enables them to educate the American people about Obama. We have a right to know.
The Obama Fan-Dance Must End [Mark R. Levin]
As someone who has written critically of John McCain on a host of issues, including the Keating Five, none of it compares to the life that Barack Obama has led and his belief system. Obama is not merely associated with domestic terrorists, Palestinian radicals, Marxists, and black liberation ideologues — he was their favorite candidate. They groomed him. They befriended him. He befriended them. He socialized with them. In other words, these people saw Obama as representing their views and aspirations and he saw them the same way. I am not among those who raise Obama’s associations but add “of course, it doesn’t mean Obama shares their views.” Oh really? These miscreants include Obama’s former pastor, political mentors and allies, and friends. Obama attempts to downplay and distance himself from his own circle of allies now that he is running for president. But he is one of them. Obama is getting a pass that no other candidate in my memory has ever received.
Thank you Mr. Levin
Posted by: ml | October 7, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
I don’t know much about politics but I know something about navy fighter pilots. I tolda freind three or four days ago once it truly seemed Obama
had the advantage it would be “fangs out” for McCain
Obama may win this thing but if he does he’ll know he will have been in a real political fight for the first time in his life.
This thing is far from over. Let’s see what happens when the pressure is ratcheted up to whoopee on Obama and if the Harvard “cool” sticks.
If he’s the guy I think he is McCain will expose him and the electorate is going to see the real man behind the curtain.
Posted by: J. Carpenter | October 7, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
People are seeing that McCain is simply too old for the rigorous job in the WH. Being a maverick at his age will get him (us) in a lot a trouble because age affects the thought processes. We see what a terrible choice for VP he made. With his adopting the slime tactics of the Right to try to win will only make good people lose respect for him so that even his Vietnam experience will not redeem him.
Looking at his expected policies you can see his connection to Big Business because he wants to:
Deregulate the health industry, older people won’t get covered because there is no money in it,
Tax all medical benefits people get, see if you can ever get that repealed someday.
Dump 4 MILLION A DAY in Iraq for an indefinite period; you think Iraqis want to stop the money?
Continue the GWB/GOP policies that have made this country bankrupt; 9/11 repeated in the national economy.
Give the country the horrendous possiblility that due to his age, a person so totally ignorant and unprepared for the WH could very well take his place.
God forbid that this pair should EVER take control and intelligent citizens are seeing the truth.
Posted by: maximus | October 7, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Because global financial markets are woven in a complex web, turmoil in one sector is felt elsewhere. Some wounded financial companies are desperately selling healthy stocks to raise capital to stay afloat, and this heavy selling pressure is forcing down the price of these stocks. The same is being done by leveraged hedge funds that have been hurt by their investments in financial stocks – they need to raise money for shareholders who want out of their fund, so they are selling good stocks to get cash.
The New York Times had an interesting op-ed article on this subject on Sept. 14 titled “Too Few Regulations? No, Just Ineffective Ones” by Tyler Cowen, an economics professor at George Mason University.
One of Cowen’s best observations was “financial regulation has produced a lot of laws and a lot of spending but poor priorities and little success in using the most important laws to head off a disaster. The pattern is reminiscent of how legislators often seem more interested in building new highways – which are highly visible projects – than in maintaining old ones.”
He also pointed out that 70,000 new pages of federal regulations in a single year is not an uncommon feat, and that the inflation-adjusted spending by the federal agencies regulating banking and finance has gone up more than 40 percent since 1990.
New rules are what Washington knows how to do best – it’s how legislators measure their worth. And while there are times when new regulations make sense, this isn’t one of those times.
Hearing the solutions offered by Obama and Biden today reduces my confidence in the Democrats. The Democrats do not having the knowledge or the imagination to take on the biggest economic crisis in America since the 1930s.
Under Herbert Hoover, taxes were raised, trade protectionism increased, and the money supply contracted. Sound familiar? Obama’s tax hikes and trade protectionism are Hooveresque and a reminder of the great depression of 1929.
No to Obama’s policies that doom America.
Posted by: Truth | October 7, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
So…”the liberal media” is at it again, eh?
Was the “liberal media” responsible for John “Songbird” McCain screwing the American People with the Keating Five scandal?
Was the “liberal media” responsible for 26 years of his voting for deregulation of the financial markets, which has resulted in the current market meltdown?
No.
John “Songbird” McCain did all of this…WILLINGLY. So let’s not hear about the scary ol’ tax hikes that the darned Obama is going to initiate…let’s deal with REALITY.
“No to Obama’s policies that doom America.” – oh…and Songbird and “Flintstones” Palin are gonna save America?
You’re like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.
Posted by: hANOVER fIST | October 7, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
McCain has run just about the worst campaign in modern history. While folks were hurting he chose a neophyte as running mate and tried to talk about reform. Now he is trying to go negative. McCain is just a terrible candidate because he is so erratic, impulsive, and out-of-touch with the struggles of everyday working people. And it shows. Not the qualities I am looking for in time of crises.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 7, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
WISE UP AMERICANS!!
To McCain, Palin and the Republicans you are all just TERRORISTS AND COMMUNISTS if you do not hold the same beliefs that they do…
Look out if they get elected, as the only thing they will shake-up in Washington if they get elected is your rights!!!
Welcome to a Republican administration that will be even more secretive and evil that Bush/Cheney could have ever hoped to be…
Welcome to the Palin/McCain NEOCON POLICE STATE!!! Where you will be branded a communist and a terrorist if you do not agree with their right wing-nut evangelical views!!!
Vote for smart, educated and inclusive leaders this time! Vote for OBAMA/BIDEN ’08!!!!
Please you “Joe Six-Pack” people, let’s not elect the DUMMIES again!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 7, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
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Posted by: العاب شمس الدين | October 7, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
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