By Dschabner

Oct 13, 2008 10:16pm

Vintage Biden Detours to Delaware to Thank Home-State Backers, Bash Palin & Defend Obama

Taking a detour from campaign travels in New Hampshire and Ohio, Sen. Joe Biden jetted back to his home state of Delaware tonight to speak at the Jefferson-Jackson Dinner in Dover, delivering an emotional address in which he thanked his fellow Delawareans for their support, made repeated cracks about his veep counterpart Gov. Sarah Palin, and passionately vouched for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill..

“Barack Obama and I want to attack America’s problems,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee said. “It appears that all Sarah Palin and John McCain want to do is attack us. We want to attack problems. They want to attack us.

“In my debate with Gov. Palin, at least I think it was a debate — I saw it on ‘Saturday Night Live,’” he cracked as the crowd erupted in laughter and applause.

“Damn, I wish I had his hair,” Biden then joked about SNL’s Jason Sudeikis as the crowd continued loving every minute of the Blue Hen’s speech.

“She brought up the length of my service. She said in the middle of that debate as she was winking at y’all, she said she’d been listening to my speeches since she was in second grade. Well, I guess, just like she can see Russia from Alaska, she can see Delaware from Alaska,” Biden continued, delivering another jab to his Republican opponent, although she never made that comment at the debate. “She’s got great eyesight.

“I was inclined to tell her in that debate, but I was trying to be a good boy, I know you were all surprised, I was, weren’t you? You were all surprised. You were, weren’t you?” Biden asked the audience. “Well, I tell ya what, when she looked over at me — and by the way she’s a captivating candidate, she really is — she looked over at me, she said, ‘Well, I was in second grade when Sen. Biden got first elected.’ I was inclined to say ‘But yes, Governor, you were in sixth grade the last time Sen. McCain had a good idea.’ You know, but I didn’t, I didn’t.”

The home-state senator, who held two campaign rallies in New Hampshire earlier today, delivered a vintage Biden speech that was at times a stand-up comedy routine, a touching expression of gratitude, and a vigorous campaign plea for the top of his party’s ticket. After poking fun at Palin, Biden moved on to vouching for Obama’s character, denouncing Republican attacks about the Democratic candidate’s background.

“For those of you who wonder about Barack Obama, don’t wonder, don’t wonder,” Biden urged the crowd. “I guarantee you, he feels as passionately about this as I do. He has the same measure, the same respect. Look folks, this is a guy who is the American dream, raised by a white grandmom and grandpop from Kansas, a grandfather who fought in Patton’s Army, a grandmother who was the equivalent of Rosie the Riveter, building aircraft, a single mother.”

“Look folks, I’m getting tired of this stuff about Barack Obama," Biden said of what he called the "negative," "scurrilous," and "vicious" ads against the Illinois lawmaker. "But I guarantee you I know the guy and I know his family. And let me tell you something, this guy knows how much he owes this great country. And he knows it couldn’t have happened anywhere else but the United States of America, so I don’t want to hear about how different he is.

“I don’t want to hear it,” Biden continued, pounding his chest for emphasis. “He’s like me. He’s like me! And all of you!”

With Obama’s final debate against McCain coming up Wednesday night in New York, Biden had an odd suggestion for the audience: watch the duel … on mute.

“For this debate, for part of this next debate, do what I did for part of the last two debates: literally, turn the sound off. I’m not being, I’m not joking now,” Biden proposed. “Literally, turn the sound off and just watch. Watch the body language of both men. You can sense it folks. You know it, when there’s a command presence. You know it when someone has the confidence and the certitude about himself and what he believes in.”

At the annual fundraising dinner, at which Biden received the Alexis I. Dupont Bayard Award for distinguished service to the state, the senator thanked Delawareans for their support over the years. With his wife Jill, son Hunter, and daughter Ashley standing on stage alongside him, Biden noted how his supporters had helped him overcome the 1972 car accident that killed his first wife and daughter and the 1988 aneurysm that forced him to drop out of the presidential race.

“You were looking out for me not only then but many of you and especially candidates are looking out for me this year, this year,” Biden said. “You are my support and you are my sustenance and that is not an exaggeration. Beau, Jill, Hunter, Ashley and I, we love you for everything you’ve done for our family because honest to God you’ve made a difference in my life, thank you.”

Upon thanking the crowd, an emotional Biden stepped back from the podium, pausing as his family left the stage, leaving him to soak up the applause of his home-state following. On Tuesday morning, the senator returns to the campaign trail to begin a two-day Ohio bus tour, his second Buckeye State bus blitz in the past month.

User Comments

Biden gave a great speech. I enjoyed seeing him get worked up. “I’ve had it up to here, I don’t need lectures from Sarah Palin on patriotism.” Good stuff. Awesome video.
http://www.congratstothewinners.com/2008/10/joe-biden-speech.html

Posted by: FriendlyFred | October 13, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

– “Barack Obama and I want to attack America’s problems,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee said. “It appears that all Sarah Palin and John McCain want to do is attack us. We want to attack problems. They want to attack us. –
Isn’t that the truth, and is it no wonder! And as McCain said back in 2000:
MCCAIN: “I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.”
[The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000]
You can only repeat ‘Maverick’ so many times until people start asking what exactly that has to do with anything.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 13, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

‘this is a guy who is the American dream, raised by a white grandmom and grandpop from Kansas, ‘
Yeah sure Biden. Obama basically called his grandmom and grandpop racists in a speech in April.
Looks like Biden cannot stop lying.

Posted by: Greg h | October 13, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

McCain is toast! Go Joe, Go Barack!!! They are the great hope for this country. McCain is going backwards, and they are moving forward. Obama/Biden 08!!

Posted by: Fairfax | October 13, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Greg H. Get a life dude. You and your candidate are history. You need to come to grips with the truth. Barack Obama President USA.

Posted by: Jo | October 13, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Jo,
The election is still some 3 weeks and Barrack Hussein Obama has not yet been elected President.
Get a life and a grip.

Posted by: Greg h | October 13, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

The negative direction this campaign has taken from both sides is despicable. But what I do not understand is why Obama does nothing to repute the allegations. Is there anything to Vera Baker? If not why not go public with the facts in lieu of just keeping many Americans guessing?

Posted by: William | October 13, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Look folks, this is a guy who is the American dream, raised by a white grandmom and grandpop from Kansas, a grandfather who fought in Patton’s Army, a grandmother who was the equivalent of Rosie the Riveter, building aircraft, a single mother.”
I have to agree with you Gregh. I think Biden is racist. Since that word is being thrown around so much. Well, I am probably racist for posting this. I guess maybe if radical liberalism is a race, I am guilty. Go McCain/Palin. Don’t believe the heavily weighted polls in most cases.

Posted by: Jessica | October 13, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Joe Biden lying again.

Posted by: xaix | October 13, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Greg h, I have relatives who are quite proud of their back-woods Tennessee racism.. doesn’t change the fact that they are still my relatives, nor dos it imply that I share their feelings.
Your point was… what exactly?

Posted by: Concerned American | October 13, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

JOE BIDEN IS A DOUBLE STANDARD PERSON.
ON PRIMARIES TOLD US THAT OBAMA IS
UN-FIT FOR COMMANDER IN CHIEF……
NOW IS OBAMA’S VP….GO FIGURE…..
BEST CHOICE IS:
McCAIN/PALIN ’08

Posted by: Nicholas | October 13, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

William,
I really have to wonder why Barack Obama hasn’t talked about many of the statements made about him. That makes me believe that they are true. Him not speaking to, or flatly denying his shady associations and dealings in his past are making him look so guilty. Everybody knows that he’s had SOME things to do with Acorn, Bill Ayers, etc, but he is just flat out denying and that doesn’t look good at all and looks like lies. Just one person’s opinion.

Posted by: Jessica | October 13, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

– s there anything to Vera Baker? If not why not go public with the facts in lieu of just keeping many Americans guessing? –
She has already come out and said that any allegations were false and that it is a non-issue.
Now, how about you go and ask Nancy Regan how she feels about McCain and his treatment of his first wife?

Posted by: Concerned American | October 13, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

William,
In other words, I think I am agreeing with you. Why not say SOMETHING??? Sorry I wasn’t clear there.

Posted by: jessica | October 13, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

– Everybody knows that he’s had SOME things to do with Acorn, Bill Ayers –
Here is what ACORN says about McCain on the front page of their website:
Senator Allied with ACORN as Recently as 2006, Now Turns Cold Shoulder
October 13, 2008, Miami, FL – U.S. Senator John McCain’s recent attacks on the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) are puzzling given his historic support for the organization and its efforts on behalf of immigrant Americans. As recently as February 20, 2006, Senator McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN-sponsored Immigration Rally in Miami, Florida at Miami Dade College – Wolfson Campus.
Here is a link to the flyer for that event:
http://www.mdc.edu/Home/Press/rally.htm

Posted by: Concerned American | October 13, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Concerned American,
I am not saying that McCain hasn’t rubbed shoulders with Acorn before. I am just making the point that Obama seems very entrenched in Acorn business and it looks suspicious to say that he hasn’t done anything with them in the past.

Posted by: Jessica | October 13, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

– I am just making the point that Obama seems very entrenched in Acorn business and it looks suspicious to say that he hasn’t done anything with them in the past. –
He never said that he hasn’t done anything with them in the past. He was all over the news when he represented them in 1995 against the state of Illinois in a voter discrimination case.. backed by the US Justice Department and League of Women Voters. And they won.
He has been more than open about his past dealings, and it is just another attempt by McCain using more Roveian tactics to make it look like more than it is. And people like you continue to perpetuate it.
Care to discuss real issues?

Posted by: Concerned American | October 13, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Let’s see, what did Biden say about McCain in the primaries? Oh yeah, he said he was qualified to be President. What did he say about Obama? That he wasn’t. Joe Biden.Liar extraordinaire.

Posted by: mike | October 13, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

As for Ayers.. another tactic by the GOP. They took a single element out of context; “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and made it out as if that was all he said and was somehow hiding his association.
Here is the full exchange, in context (Stephanopoulous had already mentioned his meeting in Obamas house which helped launch his political career):
SEN. OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about.
This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.
The fact is, is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.
Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements? Because I certainly don’t agree with those either.
So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, is somehow — somehow their ideas could be attributed to me — I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 13, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

LATEST POLLS
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By Andrew Quinn
Mon Oct 13, 3:58 PM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Democrat Barack Obama has a 4-point lead over his Republican rival John McCain in the U.S. presidential race, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby tracking poll released on Monday.
Obama leads McCain by 48 percent to 44 percent among likely voters, down 2 percentage points from the lead he enjoyed on Sunday. The poll has a margin of error of 2.9 points

Posted by: Nicholas | October 13, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

AMERICA IS IN DANGER!
OBAMA’S POLITICAL CAREER STARTED WITH HIS AFFILIATION WITH WILLIAM AYERS AND BERNARDINE DOHRN, THE UNREPENTANT TERRORISTS … part of “The Weathermen” terrorist group which launched a campaign to bomb” the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol. In the 90’s, both “Community Organizers” Ayers and Obama worked together for years, radicalizing the Chicago school system.
At a 1969 “War Council” in Flint, Michigan, Weatherman leaders Ayer and Bernardine Dohrn proclaimed that the time had come to launch a war against “Amerikkka”. The Weather Underground went on to claim credit for some 25 bombings over the next several years, detonating explosives at the rebuilt Haymarket statue, a bathroom at the Pentagon, the Capitol barber shop, the New York City police headquarters, and a variety of other targets.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH RADICAL EXTREMISTS PUTS AMERICA IN DANGER of being taken over by a group of radical terrorists that would “change” America as Obama has promised;…but the change would be to fulfill the dreams of the Weathermen of overthrowing capitalism and launching a race war against the “white” United States.
AMERICANS OF ALL PARTIES MUST COME TOGETHER AND DEFEND OUR COUNTRY against dangerous terrorists and vote for a True American Patriot, John McCain!
AMERICA FIRST!
JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN

Posted by: Manolete | October 13, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Manolete
I’M WITH YOU……
I AGREE WITH YOUR POST….
BEST CHOICE IS:
McCAIN/PALIN ’08

Posted by: Nicholas | October 13, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

THE INTOLLERANCE AND PARANOIA SEEMS TO BE RUNNING RAMPANT TONIGHT! KEEP IT UP GUYS, THE MORE YOU DO, THE HIGHER OBAMAS NUMBERS GO UP :)
PS: YOU SEE ANY BLACK HELICOPTERS AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD LATELY?

Posted by: JED | October 13, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Did he drop off a bag of cash?

Posted by: Mack | October 13, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Jessica, you need to watch something besides Fox news. Obama was on ABC news talking about Ayers less than 2 weeks ago. And Michele was on larry King. Hillary has spoken about it. Jesse Jackson Jr. has spoken about it. And this blog has written about that very interview given with Charlie Gibson. Just because you want to believe the worst, dosen’t mean the worst is truth. How many times does he have to answer this question? Especially when you will never believe Obama anyhow, it’s pointless to continue the conversation.

Posted by: JJ | October 13, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

“Obama leads McCain by 48 percent to 44 percent among likely voters, down 2 percentage points from the lead he enjoyed on Sunday. The poll has a margin of error of 2.9 points”
You’re only supposed to post polls that show the greatest advantage for obama. You’ll need to go back to the ACORN indoctrination camp for re-education.

Posted by: Mack | October 13, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Go Joe! Honestly, doesn’t SNL need to do a skit comparing Joe and Cheney? Have the two in a meeting as Cheney leaves and Joe moves in. They are such opposites. This needs to happen.

Posted by: CJ | October 13, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Don’t worry JJ, the last attempt of a failed debate is turning from the subject of the debate (issues) and resorting to ad hominem attacks. We are seeing the last desperate attempts from a dying campaign grasping at anything to keep from drowning. Ain’t America great!
And I still can’t believe so many people still support Palin.. that is indeed an insult to the intelligence of Americans, yet people are still willing to just bend over and take it. Sad.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 13, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Manolete.. Seems to me you are the terrorist. Look it up in a dictionary. Your post has terrorist undertones and fearful innuendo. TERRORIST

Posted by: Miki | October 13, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

You lamebrained republicans are so stupid and gullible. Just let the right wing start up some lie about Senator Obama and some other person no one knows and you people are all over it like flies on do-do. It is amazing the liars and spinners who will stop at nothing to smear and wound. I am sick and tired of the lies, the filth, and the way republicans eat it up with relish. It like they have never heard a republican liar that they did not believe every lying word they say, because they want to believe the lies.

Posted by: Vicki | October 14, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

Jessica — you are the very type who lie and smear and backstab. Senator Biden is a good decent man. Senator Obama chose him because they will work well together to make America a better place. Obama can not spend all his time answering the fake charges made by republican attack dogs. He is doing what he needs to do to win. Showing what a wonderful man he is, how intelligent he is, how thoughtful he is, how in tune with all Americans he is, and how he will start immediately undoing as much of the harm Bush and Cheney caused as he can. Then he will represent all of us, tell us the truth, treat us with respect and be the leader that Bush never was.

Posted by: Vicki | October 14, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

I wonder who he plagiarized that speech from?

Posted by: Becky | October 14, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Senator Obama stated today he was going to create JOBS. I say he is creating more BS. After all, he promised the same thing to his state senate district–none was created but 11% lost in 8 years. The Democrats caused this economic choas by signing sub-prime mortgage loan legislation by Clinton and Carter Administration without any safeguards. Allowing people into expensive homes without down payments or even checks on the people ability to pay was an idiotic practice but the Democrats, minorities and groups like ACORN was behind the idiotic action—something for nothing agenda-like free health care and college tutition.

Posted by: Mary | October 14, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

– The Democrats caused this economic choas by signing sub-prime mortgage loan legislation –
Wrong. Deregulation of the banking industry allowing them to package and sell mortgages as investments is the root, and that was a bi-partisan effort:
The bill that ultimately repealed the [Glass Steagall] Act was introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (R-TX) and in the House of Representatives by James Leach (R-IA) in 1999. The bills were passed by a 54-44 vote along party lines with Republican support in the Senate and by a 343-86 vote in the House of Representatives. Nov 4, 1999: After passing both the Senate and House the bill was moved to a conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. The final bipartisan bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90-8-1 and in the House: 362-57-15. Without forcing a veto vote, this bipartisan, VETO PROOF legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-190

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Palin is now being investigated as to how she got her house built for free. Note the Ted Stevens connection. It was also just mentioned on MSNBC. “Housegate”, isn’t that just lovely. Here we go again.
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/house-gate/
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: SA | October 14, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

– Senator Obama stated today he was going to create JOBS –
His health plan, creating an insurance company that competes against the others, will allow more uninsured americans to obtain health insurance (47% as compared to 7% under McCains plan at peak). This will inject more patients into the system, boosting revenue for health care providers, allowing job creation and have a ripple effect to supporting industries. Also, his tax cuts to businesses providing health insurance to employees will inject an estimated $140 billion a year, further creating jobs and stimulating the economy. In contrast, McCain simply wants to deregulate, tax employers for health care to employees in order to shift to private coverage, and give a fixed tax break across the board regardless of income. Like his tax plan, his health plan favors the wealthy and would result in more americans losing health insurance.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

– something for nothing agenda-like free health care and college tutition. –
See above re: health insurance.
As for college tuition, tax credits for college education and simplified applications for financial aid.
Where you get all of this ‘free’ stuff is beyond me.. but you do indeed have a very, very misguided understanding of what each candidates platform is or how they would work.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

Howard Stern Exposes Why So Many People Support Obama
http://tinyurl.com/53jx82

Posted by: LightSeeker | October 14, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

In related news:
Title: “GOP in push to erase voters; purges ACORN over drive to register low income”
Exerpt:
“Republican leaders in New Mexico raised the same claims against an ACORN registration drive in the last presidential vote. Then they tried to pressure New Mexico’s U.S. attorney, David Iglesias, an appointee of President Bush, to bring a voter fraud indictment just before the 2006 congressional election.
After an investigation, Iglesias concluded there wasn’t enough evidence. A few months later, he was fired by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in what became a big Justice Department scandal.
Last week, the department’s inspector general concluded the firing was “engineered” by former White House aide Karl Rove and New Mexico’s Republican Sen. Pete Domenici for Iglesias’ refusal to pursue voter fraud indictments.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/10/09/2008-10-09_gop_in_push_to_erase_voters_purges_acorn.html

Posted by: GOPFraud | October 14, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

Concerned American,
You are doing a great job getting the facts out, but the people that are still buying into the McCain/Palin lies are not interested in truth or reason. I mean the Ayers thing is so stupid. Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was active. McCain’s involvement in the U.S. Council for World Freedom is worst than guilt by association and the McCain/Palin “followers” don’t seem to care about that. The double standard is amazing to me.

Posted by: SA | October 14, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

“Senator Obama stated today he was going to create JOBS –”
His tax increases will hurt the small businesses that employ most workers. His imaginary green collar jobs are a farce.

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

PALIN’S FREE HOUSE ALA TED STEVENS!!!
Have you heard about this Developing Story on PALIN’S house being built FOR FREE by the same contractors, etc. that Ted Stevens house was built by?
Apparently the village voice newspaper did some digging into this and found some unusual facts…
Like at the same time the 15 million dollar hocky rink in Wassilla was being built, Palin’s house got built!
“When the Palins began building a new family home off Lake Lucille in 2002—at the same time that Palin was running for lieutenant governor and in her final months as mayor—Spenard supplied the materials, according to Antoine Bricks, who works in its Wasilla office. Spenard actually filed a notice “of its right to assert a lien” on the deed for the Palin property after contracting for labor and materials for the site. Spenard’s name has popped up in the trial of Senator Stevens—it worked on the house that is at the center of the VECO scandal as well.”
In addition apparently Todd Palin claimed on FOX Noise that he built the house “himself” with some buddies…
“Todd Palin told Fox News that he built the two-story, 3,450-square-foot, four-bedroom, four-bath, wood house himself, with the help of contractors he described as “buddies.” As mayor, Sarah Palin blocked an effort to require the filing of building permits in the wide-open city, and there is no public record of who the “buddies” were. The house was built very near the complex, on a site whose city purchase led to years of unsuccessful litigation and, now, $1.3 million in additional costs, with a law firm that’s also donated to Palin collecting costly fees from the city.”
The ONLY PROBLEM is that while the house was being built, Todd was out campaigning with his wife all over the state….
“Ewing was one of the few sports-complex contractors, aside from Spenard, willing to address the question of whether he worked on the house as well, but he had little to say: “I doubt that it occurred, but if it did indirectly, how would I know anyhow?” The odd timing of Palin’s house construction—it was completed two months before she left City Hall and while she and Todd Palin were campaigning statewide for the first time—raises questions, especially considering its synergy with the complex.”
Is there NO END to this woman’s lies and corruption?
http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sarah/5

Posted by: Davis | October 14, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

“are not interested in truth or reason. I mean the Ayers thing is so stupid. ”
You mean truth like “he’s just some guy from the neighborhood” and how about Rezko was just some guy that he did some work for. He is a pathological liar and will say anything to get elected and you poor saps buy it hook, line and sinker. Paying higher taxes is Patriotic? You people are a bunch of fools and you are going to bring us all down with you.

Posted by: Mack | October 14, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Who is Sarah Palin:
Palins mother (Sally Sheigam) was of Lithuanian Jewish heritage and so were both of her mothers parents (Louise Sheigam and Shmuel Sheigam). Her father Chuck Heath can also be considered of Jewish blood because his mother, Beatrice Coleman, was of Jewish decent. Further information on Governor Palin’s ancestors can easily be found in the vital records in the Lithuanian State Historical Archives in Vilnius. http://www.archyvai.lt/ The Archives holds birth, marriage, divorce, and death records for the Lithuanian Jewish community from 1851 until 1915 when the Jews were required to leave the country because of World War I. They are in 18th Century Cyrillic script and Yiddish Many of these records include the mother’s maiden name and town of registration.
I understand her mother, Sally, was raised as a Jew. Her father Chuck became an evangelical Christian however and Sarah has been raised in that tradition.
The fact the Sarah is Jewish by birth is no big deal, in fact I think it is fascinating. However, this is where it get scary – she has covered up the fact that she has Jewish heritage and in fact one of the rumors she started about her rival in her run for Mayor was that her competition (Mr. Stein) was Jewish, which was not true.
Sarah also has strong ties with the A.I.P. in Alaska. Joe Vogler started this party. Joe hated America and raged constantly regarding his hatred. He wanted Alaska to be an independent country and to secede from the USA. He stated his hate for the USA was as cold as the glaciers and that he refused to be buried under the American flag. He had close ties with Iran (I am not kidding!) Please Google Joe Vogler and Iran if you doubt this. Vogler was actually killed when a deal to purchase plastic explosives went bad!
The current big guys in the A.I.P. are Chryson and Stoll. They helped to get Palin elected as Mayor and as Gov. They enjoy a close relationship with the family. Todd belonged to the A.I.P. for 7 years, until 2007 and Sarah spoke at and attended their functions. It was Chyson and Stoll who helped Sarah spread the rumors regarding Stein. Both of these men have strong ties to white militia organizations.
So here we have a woman, ashamed of and hiding her Jewish heritage and attempting to smear and persecute someone else for being Jewish. Seems I remember another person who was ashamed of his Jewish background…whipped up crowds into Aryan frenzies, told half truths and played on peoples irrational fears…incited violent mob mentalities ….do we really want to go there again….

Posted by: Rebecca Burt | October 14, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

– You mean truth like “he’s just some guy from the neighborhood” –
The GOP took one part of his response and smeared it as if that was all he said. Here is the response in full, after George asked him about Ayers and his meeting with him in his house which launched his political career:
SEN. OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about.
This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.
The fact is, is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.
Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements? Because I certainly don’t agree with those either.
So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, is somehow — somehow their ideas could be attributed to me — I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.

– Rezko was just some guy that he did some work for –
More Roveian tactics by the GOP and McCain which has been done to death.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/19/obamas-rezko-connection/

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

Biden speaks from the heart with great eloquence. He will be a great vice president. And there is arguably no one in Congress more knowledgeable on the great issues of the day. He’s right, let McCain and Palin attack Obama. Obama and Biden want to attack America’s problems. I like that, alot.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | October 14, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

Anyone looking for insight on the flaws and the solution (major overhaul) to the fix the system can find them on http://coinage.me
It goes into detail how the summary information needed to actually manage a fiat currency system is not available and therefore cannot be properly managed.
Furthermore our information system systems are not designed correctly to support such a system the data is all disparate.
The is referenced by one of Obama’s advisors and can be read at the Obama link below.
http://tinyurl.com/52bczy

Posted by: Richard Thomas | October 14, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1849399-2,00.html
umm Ok kids next we will put the president of Iran in the corner….Kim Jong Ill you dont get to be in the christmas play….
I think some of you republicans showing up at McCain rallies should really screen your audience lists. Those were some real nut jobs this past week….Like the Dementia lady that said she read Obama was an Arab HAHAHAHAHA yep and if you dig a hole far enough you can get to china, I think I read that somewhere….so must be true…..Obama and Biden 08…..

Posted by: Doug | October 14, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

The USA’s enemies are drooling at the thought of Obama. They love the naïve inexperience weak amateur. Where there have been young leaders in the past, they had over a decade of (real)experience, yet we paid a price for it. This is supposed to be an election for president not PR rock star. You are hiring the CEO of Firm USA. Who do you want to run the firm, a manager with over 25 years experience or the newly hired stockboy?
If you complain about Palin’s experience to be VP candidate where does that leave Obama? She has more real experience than he has. Or is Obama really running as Biden’s VP?
For those fighting the party wars.
Party is the madness of many for the gain of a few.-Alexander Pope
If your 20 and not a Liberal, You have no Heart. If you are 40 and not a Conservative, You have no Brain–Sir Winston Churchhill
Have you ever seen anything the government has touched that is not as “Messed-up” as a”SOUP SANDWICH?

Posted by: AmerVtrn | October 14, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am

McCain/Palin ticket winner will keep Americans high moral values and traditions in place. Anything goes for the Obama people: lies, corruption, terrorists, criminals, religeous radical and far right political radicals. The democrats caused our economic meltdown by wanting people into housing they could not afford and us tax payers are forced to bail out the financial institutions.
Senator Obama has nothing going except his big mouth and lots of bogus promises.

Posted by: Mary | October 14, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

– If you complain about Palin’s experience to be VP candidate where does that leave Obama? She has more real experience than he has. –
Gee, by that measure, then she has more experience that McCain as well!
However, he has already shown the intelligence, judgment and calm rational thought needed for leadership.. unlike the chicken running around claiming the sky is falling.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am

Yes Mary, keep repeating that mantra over and over again to yourself if that is what you need to calm your paranoid mind.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

-Davis–Do you recall that Obama had to get the Rezkos to fork over $625,000 for an empty lot so Obama could have his mansion for $300,000 less than value. Why did the Rezko do it????That sounds more criminal than having friends help in actually constructing a house in rural Alaska. The land there cost much more than the house. Lived there and know.

Posted by: Mary | October 14, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

– -Do you recall that Obama had to get the Rezkos to fork over $625,000 for an empty lot so Obama could have his mansion for $300,000 less than value. Why did the Rezko do it???? –
Mary, mary, mary.. here are the 8 things you need to know about Rezko:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article
and just for good measures:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/19/obamas-rezko-connection/
You really are not a McCain supporter are you.. just an anti-Obama troll.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

–Concerned American–Are you really an American or one of those guys with a funny name from a terrorist county supporting Obama, the socialist?
I have researched at least 10 credible sources about the economic problem. Even watch TV from London, Paris and Berlin when they were blasting the USA and the Democrats when their stock market fell. Even Bill Clinton was blaming the Democrats.
And I am sorry to hear you have a paranoid mind. Are you taking your medicine and getting plenty of rest? LOL

Posted by: Mary | October 14, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am

Why do you call him a socialist?
That just shows your ignorance in the candidates platforms.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am

And from the sound of it, I’m far more american than you.. I care about the direction of the country and what each candidate would do towards that goal.
Obamas tax plan is superior and would stimulate economic growth faster, McCain is just more trickle down economics as Bush, his dad and Regan..
Obamas health plan is way better for more americans.
Obama wants to close the enron loophole, resulting in an immediate drop in fuel prices. McCain simply says congress is investigating it. (He don’t tell you that congress has already tried twice this year to close it, and Bush vetoed the bills each time).
I can go on, but I really doubt you care about america and just want ‘your guy’ to win regardless of what it would do to the country.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

hahahaha yes blame the democrats for the Iraq War blank check for the trillions we are wasting in Iraq. Last I look it was Bush that did that. Also lets stop pointing fingers at the government for all the problems. Anyone bought Christmas gifts in the past on credit and found the next few months being a little short in the family budget? YES you know you have. Try actually paying cash for something and saving rather than blaming your over paid mortgage problems on the government!!!! It’s time for Americans to start accepting their responsibility for not being able to pay their own bills….

Posted by: doug | October 14, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

Absolutely Doug! I pay cash for pretty much everything. The homes I own are paid for with no mortgages. I pay my credit card bill at the end of each month..
If you want to look at what has happened to the national debt, here it is in a nice graph:
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
You can’t just keep spending like you have an unlimited credit card.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am

–Concerned American–Those articles you mentioned are old news. Rezko has been talking to the feds for weeks now hoping to get a lighter sentence. Seems he knows a lot about Chicago/Illinois political and business related corruption. He was in it for years and was named “the Fixer”. Maybe, just maybe he is telling the truth about Obama. Understand, he has another trial to go through too.
Also, the past actions and associations speaks volumns about a person, more so than his current political rhetric or platform.

Posted by: Mary | October 14, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am

–Rebecca Burt–Why are you writing about Sarah Palin’s Jewish background unless it is to condemn her in some way?
I did live in Alaska for 25 years, working with political, business and professional people but did not know Sarah Palin. However, the Independence Party had been around almost since statehood. It was started because people in Alaska thought it very unfair that less than 1% of land was dedicated for private ownership for individuals. The land there is owned by federal, state, natives, military and boroughs. Because of these restriction of land use, home sites or lots is very, very expensive in Anchorage and other cities. Also the residents of Alaska are disgusted with the fact that the US government make 4 times in profits/sales of resources from federal land than comes back to the state except for the cost of the large military facilities there.
I still have family members there plus friends so I can keep up with the news. Some of the stuff about Alaska and Plain on MSN is a absolutely fiction.

Posted by: Mary | October 14, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am

Yes Mary, and even GOP officals say that Obama has not been implicated in anything, even though they have been pressuring him.
As for past associations, your blinders are showing. McCain has far more ‘questionable’ actions than Obama.
Hint: US Council for World Freedom is just the tip of the iceburg.
When you care to discuss issues, I’ll be here. In the meantime, I will just continue correcting your ‘facts’ :)

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am

Thanks Concerned American.
By the way I am a disabled veteran and honestly I do not live in the U.S. as of now (guess ill have to be quiet or I’ll get labled a terrorist or unpatriotic) I live in Japan. Yes the country that has had negative growth for say oh 15 years now. But people here save money. There are NO credit cards that you buy with “credit” You pay off your card each month and that seems to work well cause people are a little more thoughtful when they want to buy that new TV. Also we do have social medicine here. I pay 30% of my bill. That means when I go to the doctor each month for my ashtma it cost me……$27 for the doctor and the medication. Guess who in the U.S. dont want to see that? Oh yeah the 100s of doctors that will lose money….its not a bad plan. My kids get sick, they go to the hospital. It’s not well we need to pay rent this month so we cant take them. It’s sickening the way its getting in the U.S. and before you McCain\Palin freaks try to label me.. I love my country, I servered 8 years in the U.S. Army as Communications Paratrooper and lived on the DMZ for 2 years. DO NOT THROW the flag in my face and say country first!! If i hear his POW story one more time I’ll scream! McCain has been in Washington for 25 years and its the same. Palin is not qualified. Careful what you ask for. She is not an everday person.

Posted by: Doug | October 14, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am

The Republicans are starting to look and sound very desperate.

Posted by: turn the page | October 14, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am

Wall Street Journal called Joe Biden a PNONY LIAR:

During the VP debate watched by 70 million viewers, Joe Biden “invited Americans to join him at Katie’s restaurant in Wilmington to witness middle-class struggles. Just one problem: KATIE’S CLOSED IN THE 1980s. The mistake is more than a memory lapse because IT EXPOSES HOW PHONY IS MR. BIDEN’S attempt to pose for this campaign as Lunchbucket Joe.”

Palin should mention the WSJ article in one of her speeches… “I read in the WSJ that…”

More Biden lies and/or “memory lapses” below:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122325448093406451.html
http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/oct/06/joe_bidens_alternate_universe56886/
http://newsok.com/bidens-boo-boos-misstatements-mar-debate-performance/article/3308160
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/06/usnews/whispers/main4505101.shtml

Posted by: Don | October 14, 2008, 6:01 am 6:01 am

– Wall Street Journal called Joe Biden a PNONY LIAR: –
Oh, good.. thought you were going to say he was found guilty of violating ethics laws and abuse of power..

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am

I am quite disturbed this early morning. Can someone on this site tell me if I heard or read this correctly, that if Barack Obama becomes our President that he will expect all 18 year old females to register for selective service along with all males. THIS IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME. Is this true? ALSO UNDER AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY ALL 1ST YEAR HIGH SCHOOLERS WILL HAVE TO DO 50 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE AND SENIORS WOULD HAVE TO DO 100 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE. I AM NERVOUS WILL HE MAKE OUR COUNTRY A COMMUNIST, SOCIALIST COUNTRY>

Posted by: maggie | October 14, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am

MAGGIE: If true, how many of the college kids will change their minds on voting for their Messiah, Obama!!!!!
I have a niece whom wil be starting college next year. I think it’s time the 18 year old females know of Obama’s military idea for the woman.
Scary!!!!

Posted by: steve | October 14, 2008, 6:12 am 6:12 am

Hey Don.. We can sling mud all day!
Time Magazine, “John McCain and the Lying Game”, Sept. 17, 2008
“McCain’s lies have ranged from the annoying to the sleazy, and the problem is in both degree and kind. His campaign has been a ceaseless assault on his opponent’s character and policies, featuring a consistent—and witting—disdain for the truth. Even after 38 million Americans heard Obama say in his speech at the Democratic National Convention that he was open to offshore oil-drilling and building new nuclear-power plants, McCain flatly said in his acceptance speech that Obama opposed both. Normal political practice would be for McCain to say, “Obama says he’s ‘open to’ offshore drilling, but he’s always opposed it. How can we believe him?” This persistence in repeating demonstrably false charges is something new in presidential politics.”
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842030,00.html

Posted by: bennie | October 14, 2008, 6:12 am 6:12 am

Why yes maggie.. and not only that, under Obama, you will be required to practice Islam, work in welfare kitchens, scrub toilets in federal prisons, and assist police in drug raids for 1 week out of each year!
I guess it’s about time for the nut jobs to start crawling out from under their rocks.. sad.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am

maggie…part 1….yes
part 2….yes
part 3….ABSOLUTLEY to a socialist form of government !
under obama’s “plan”
ANYONE that makes under 19,900.00/year
this includes most OJT, trainee’s,low income and part time workers, not to mention OUR seniors…
YOU will pay 567.00 MORE PER YEAR IN TAXES !
McCain’s plan will raise taxes also on this same income level by.
26.00 per year

Posted by: RadicalRan | October 14, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am

the dems always RAISE YOUR TAXES to support there pockets…umm opps …what they call programs!

Posted by: Radicalran | October 14, 2008, 6:34 am 6:34 am

Radical – please provide sources for your ‘claims’..
Obama has suggested equal rights in selective service, but that would require a vote by Americans.. Prez. can’t just mandate it.
Rest of your post is rubbish.
Seniors: $50,000 exemption on top of whatever else they make, so most would not pay any taxes at all.
Under 19,000 a year?
Under obama, somewhere between a $500 to $900 tax cut.
Under mccain, zip.
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?template=simulation&SimID=266

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am

I really wonder how many college students whom are voting for Obama know of his selective service plans for all woman 18 years and over? I typed in selective service women Obama and it did take me to several sites
showing that yes, this is true. He mentioned it during a CNN interview.

Posted by: maggie | October 14, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am

– the dems always RAISE YOUR TAXES to support there pockets…umm opps …what they call programs! –
For tax info, see:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
Including estimated tax tables to see how your taxes would change under each.
As for your claim above, maybe you would like to see what has happened to the national debt under recent presidents in a nice easy to read graph format that even you should be able to understand:
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am

“Say it ain’t so, Joe”…where did the wrinkles on your forehead go??????

Posted by: mary | October 14, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

– I really wonder how many college students whom are voting for Obama know of his selective service plans for all woman 18 –
Fear not Maggie.. I work with them every day, and most are actually intelligent.. which is why once they look at the issues they decide to vote for Obama. Now, the old folks, them you can fool.. look at how many of them still think Bush was a good president!

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

“Up yours, Obama, you cannot have my niece for your military army. Go crawl under some rat’s hole and leave our Democratic Country alone.

Posted by: steve | October 14, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am

Shouldn’t we confront McCain/Palin with things they have done or previously involved in? It seems that they can bash Obama/Biden for things, but shouldn’t they have to answer to.
I have read items about Palin’s past, why shouldn’t she answer to these? About Todd and her attending meetings where they wanted Alaska to seced from the US – what’s the answer to that? What abut Sarah’s ethics, she fired people for ethic violations – but what about her? Todd used the govenors office to benefit him, is this going to be the same if she is vice president?
McCain also had ‘ties’ to Ayers, spoke at a meeting, what’s his answer to that?
It seems to me that slam Obama/Biden, but turn your head to things we have done. WRONG, WRONG.

Posted by: kmn | October 14, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

concerned….look it up,
you blind bafoon, your just another innocent sheep that is being led to slaughter for you cannot see, you and others are being led by the
obama MARXIST SOCIALIST group,
where they have the blind pulled down in front of many eyes.the obama klan are majority leftist puppets.
do your best to vote this so called american into office,
then when he… CHANGES…
your life,liberties and your freedoms.
you wont find one person that voted for obama!
i will be posting Obama’s full TAX strategy this afternoon.

Posted by: Radicalran | October 14, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

– It seems to me that slam Obama/Biden, but turn your head to things we have done. WRONG, WRONG. –
True, but it is by the Karl Rove playbook. For example, McCain supported ACORN, until recently.. here is what they have to say:
Senator Allied with ACORN as Recently as 2006, Now Turns Cold Shoulder
“Bertha Lewis, Chief Organizer of ACORN, said, “It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans. Maybe it is out of desperation that Senator McCain has forgotten that he was for ACORN before he was against ACORN; he was for immigration reform before he was against immigration reform; and he was a maverick before he became erratic. We were thrilled to partner with him to help reform the outdated immigration laws in this country, and were pleased to work closely with him on this issue.”
Lewis continued, “We expected Senator McCain to support our efforts to give voice to millions of Americans who have never participated in an election before. We are surprised at his efforts to vilify an organization that, until recently, he saw as an ally. Maybe this surprise attack and change of heart is indicative of his state of mind, and the way he would govern.”
http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx_ttnewstt_news=22386&tx_ttnewsbackPid=12387&cHash=5706e23a2f

Posted by: bebe | October 14, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am

o i c now …concerned is a PLANT, placed on this board by the
obama faction of socialist reformists, notice how he changed personal taxes to the national debt….
gotta watch them obama socialist…
there tricky liars !

Posted by: Radicalran | October 14, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am

– concerned….look it up, –
I did, and posted the real numbers and provided a link to verify. You didn’t, even when asked.
– you blind bafoon, your just another innocent sheep that is being led to slaughter for you cannot see –
Baaaaaaa, baaaaaaaa
May Allah be with you :)

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am

Did Biden stop in at Home Depot again? People there have never seen him before. As for discussing politics with people at his favorite diner, perhaps his Alzheimer’s kicking in since it closed well over a decade ago. The Secret Service should tell him before he makes another gaffe. Imagine, he was GOP and if he misspelled potato his political life would be over. This guy thinks he’s Christ and can perform miracles making the wheelchair bound lame to get up and walk. Yet the media paints over this buffoon.

Posted by: Jack | October 14, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am

OH OH – LOOKS LIKE THE MOOSE HUNTER ISNT OUT OF THE WOODS YET!
http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/555288.html
Board’s Troopergate probe casts wider net
The state Personnel Board investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin’s firing of Walt Monegan has broadened to include other ethics complaints against the governor and examination of actions by other state employees, according to the independent counsel handling the case.

Posted by: NoMacDaddy | October 14, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am

ok concerned…here it comes…straight off your LINK…and by the way…do ya know the difference in a LAW and a PROPOSAL TO THE LAW?

Posted by: Radicalran | October 14, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am

Palin likes to compare herself to Ronald Reagan.
Yeat she never mentions that Reagan RAISED corporate taxes. Isn’t that exactly what Obama proposes?

Posted by: The Irony | October 14, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years, according to a newly updated analysis by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Compared to current law,
TPC estimates
THE OBAMA PLAN WOULD CUT TAXES BY $2.9 trillion from 2009-2018.
McCain would reduce taxes by nearly $4.2 trillion.
thats from your link….O helen !

Posted by: Radicalran | October 14, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am

– Imagine, he was GOP and if he misspelled potato his political life would be over. –
Doubtful.. you can even be found guilty of breaking ethics laws and still carry on in the GOP as if nothing happened.. Just standard operating procedure.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

– THE OBAMA PLAN WOULD CUT TAXES BY $2.9 trillion from 2009-2018.
McCain would reduce taxes by nearly $4.2 trillion. –
Yup.. Meaning McCain would raise the federal deficit by $4.2 trillion over 10 years, Obama $2.9 over the same period.
McCain would have to cut a lot more government spending just to catch up to Obama without cutting anything..

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am

Obama vs. business & jobs
Even The New York Times now is saying that Barack Obama’s unswerving call for tax increases — to impose more “fairness” — is the wrong prescription for the current crisis in the U.S. economy.

Posted by: NoMacdaddy | October 14, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am

concerned …let me ask you this…
JUST EXACTLY WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE TO BE STUPID ! your truly an IDIOT !
it dont say anything about the fed deficit…YOU DO !
…if they had meant fed deficit they would have posted/written federal deficit…..you LaMONT[ thats red sanford for ya BIG DUMMY}
ITS SAYS TAXES…

Posted by: Radicalran | October 14, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am

Obama vs. business & jobs
By Ralph R. Reiland
Monday, October 13, 2008
Even The New York Times now is saying that Barack Obama’s unswerving call for tax increases — to impose more “fairness” — is the wrong prescription for the current crisis in the U.S. economy.

Posted by: PT | October 14, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am

– t dont say anything about the fed deficit…YOU DO ! –
Excuse me, national debt.. from the report: Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years, according to a newly updated analysis by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.
And then cite by how much, which are the numbers given. Apparently you don’t realize that you can’t cut taxes without cutting spending.. just like the current bozo in office it seems.
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
Obama at least raises some revenue with modest increases for the wealthy.. however not as much as was under Clinton. McCains plan is a net $1.3 trillion over 10 year deficit compared to Obama.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am

– t dont say anything about the fed deficit…YOU DO ! –
Excuse me, national debt.. from the report: Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years, according to a newly updated analysis by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.
And then cite by how much, which are the numbers given. Apparently you don’t realize that you can’t cut taxes without cutting spending.. just like the current bozo in office it seems.
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
Obama at least raises some revenue with modest increases for the wealthy.. however not as much as was under Clinton. McCains plan is a net $1.3 trillion over 10 year deficit compared to Obama.
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 14, 2008 7:54:57 AM
Which does not account for increased revenue because of lower taxes.Thats where it is misleading

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 14, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am

There were many, many naysayers when Clinton proposed similar tax increases on the top 2 percent. It will cause a recession, depression, it’s redistribution of wealth, yahta, yahta, yahta. Well they were wrong and he was right. Obama is proposing similar tax policies along with agressive job creation. There will always be critics, but the truth of the matter is current tax, spending, and overall fiscal policy is not working and 80 percent of the country wants to change direction. What better way than to put the emphasis on jobs and the middle class. A rising tide floats all boats.

Posted by: Tom. Tescher | October 14, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am

there you go again Lamont….
you so precisely change one WORD and add two
…the word in the REPORT is MAY..
…NOT the words
WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY…
thats what you put IN !
Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that [would substantially] LIES POSTED BY CONCERNED THIS SHOULD BE THE WORD >>>>MAY increase the national debt over the next ten years, according to a newly updated analysis by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

Posted by: Radicalran | October 14, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

Tom. Tescher,
Redistribution of wealyh is not what clinton proposed by any stretch

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 14, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

Hmmm, lets see: Ralph Reiland
Recent articles:
Obama vs. business & jobs
Obama’s words & deeds
‘Economic disaster’? It’s Obama
Pelosi’s oily fortunetelling
Obama: A ‘free-market guy’?
Rewriting Reagan — again (re: Obama)
Poor, poor Michelle
Obama’s unfinished waffles
And that’s a short list of a rather long string of articles slamming anyone who doesn’t support deregulation.
A ‘free market’ proponent who is apparently against Obama and for McCain.. go figure!

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

Radicalran, I just cut and pasted verbatim what the report said, and will do it again right here:
Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years, according to a newly updated analysis by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Compared to current law, TPC estimates the Obama plan would cut taxes by $2.9 trillion from 2009-2018. McCain would reduce taxes by nearly $4.2 trillion. Obama would give larger tax cuts to low- and moderate-income households and pay some of the cost by raising taxes on high-income taxpayers. In contrast, McCain would cut taxes across the board and give the biggest cuts to the highest-income households.
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411750
I’m not sure your reading comprehension is that great.. maybe you are just reading it the way you would like to see it, but that is your problem to take care of, not mine.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 14, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Plugs is the smartest guy in the senate, ask him and he will tell you that.

Posted by: Norman | October 14, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

reddog wrote “Which does not account for increased revenue because of lower taxes.Thats where it is misleading”
what is misleading is thinking that large cuts for the wealthy increase revenue. that movie failed at the box office, every time it has been played. as the wall street journal recently wrote
***
Many of these very same critics made many of these same overheated predictions in previous elections. They said President Clinton’s 1993 deficit-reduction plan would wreck the economy. Eight years and 23 million new jobs later, the economy proved them wrong. Now they are making the same claims about Sen. Obama’s tax plan,

The McCain plan would lead to deficits the likes of which we have never seen in this country. It would take money from the middle class and from future generations so that the wealthy can live better today.
***
even former federal reserve chairman paul volcker is supporting obama and his tax plan.
no thanks. trickle down does not work, and never has. and yet, they keep trying as if they will get different results. my friends and family have a name for someone who keeps doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, and it isnt flattering.
obama/biden in 2008

Posted by: peter | October 14, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Who is Vera Baker?

Posted by: ch | October 14, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Mr. Gaffe, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: uncle sam | October 14, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Concerned – That’s great, tax the one’s who create the jobs. You are a socialist pig with black lipstick, which means dark times ahead of us if he’s elected. Which won’t happen! I’ve read your post, and you must be a paid Obama blogger. Do you have a job other than blogging for Obama, or even a life at that. Your comments is just like Obama’s, PARTISAN, you never reach out to understand other view’s, just cut and paste like a wuss! You always say check out this site, and decide for yourself, but you can’t even see the bias info you give out, or even the blindly partisan actions. You should change you’re name to Concerned Obama supporter, because you are truely not American, just like all your other racist liberal loons. Get a life and grow a brain.

Posted by: uncle sam | October 14, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Concerned – Here’s some paste for your roll Mr. Tax Policy pusher!
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Wright 101
Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Rev. Wright’s anti-Americanism
By Stanley Kurtz
It looks like Jeremiah Wright was just the tip of the iceberg. Not only did Barack Obama savor Wright’s sermons, Obama gave legitimacy — and a whole lot of money — to education programs built around the same extremist anti-American ideology preached by Reverend Wright. And guess what? Bill Ayers is still palling around with the same bitterly anti-American Afrocentric ideologues that he and Obama were promoting a decade ago. All this is revealed by a bit of digging, combined with a careful study of documents from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, the education foundation Obama and Ayers jointly led in the late 1990s.
John McCain, take note. Obama’s tie to Wright is no longer a purely personal question (if it ever was one) about one man’s choice of his pastor. The fact that Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Wright’s anti-Americanism means that this is now a matter of public policy, and therefore an entirely legitimate issue in this campaign.
African Village
In the winter of 1996, the Coalition for Improved Education in [Chicago’s] South Shore (CIESS) announced that it had received a $200,000 grant from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. That made CIESS an “external partner,” i.e. a community organization linked to a network of schools within the Chicago public system. This network, named the “South Shore African Village Collaborative” was thoroughly “Afrocentric” in orientation. CIESS’s job was to use a combination of teacher-training, curriculum advice, and community involvement to improve academic performance in the schools it worked with. CIESS would continue to receive large Annenberg grants throughout the 1990s.
The South Shore African Village Collaborative (SSAVC) was very much a part of the Afrocentric “rites of passage movement,” a fringe education crusade of the 1990s. SSAVC schools featured “African-Centered” curricula built around “rites of passage” ceremonies inspired by the puberty rites found in many African societies. In and of themselves, these ceremonies were harmless. Yet the philosophy that accompanied them was not. On the contrary, it was a carbon-copy of Jeremiah Wright’s worldview.
Rites of Passage
To learn what the rites of passage movement was all about, we can turn to a sympathetic 1992 study published in the Journal of Negro Education by Nsenga Warfield-Coppock. In that article, Warfield-Coppock bemoans the fact that public education in the United States is shaped by “capitalism, competitiveness, racism, sexism and oppression.” According to Warfield-Coppock, these American values “have confused African American people and oriented them toward American definitions of achievement and success and away from traditional African values.” American socialization has “proven to be dysfuntional and genocidal to the African American community,” Warfield-Coppock tells us. The answer is the adolescent rites of passage movement, designed “to provide African American youth with the cultural information and values they would need to counter the potentially detrimental effects of a Eurocentrically oriented society.”
The adolescent rites of passage movement that flowered in the 1990s grew out of the “cultural nationalist” or “Pan-African” thinking popular in radical black circles of the 1960s and 1970s. The attempt to create a virtually separate and intensely anti-American black social world began to take hold in the mid-1980s in small private schools, which carefully guarded the contents of their controversial curricula. Gradually, through external partners like CIESS, the movement spread to a few public schools. Supporters view these programs as “a social and cultural ‘inoculation’ process that facilitates healthy, African-centered development among African American youth and protects them against the ravages of a racist, sexist, capitalist, and oppressive society.”
We know that SSAVC was part of this movement, not only because their Annenberg proposals were filled with Afrocentric themes and references to “rites of passage,” but also because SSAVC’s faculty set up its African-centered curriculum in consultation with some of the most prominent leaders of the “rites of passage movement.” For example, a CIESS teacher conference sponsored a presentation on African-centered curricula by Jacob Carruthers, a particularly controversial Afrocentrist.
Jacob Carruthers
Like other leaders of the rites of passage movement, Carruthers teaches that the true birthplace of world civilization was ancient “Kemet” (Egypt), from which Kemetic philosophy supposedly spread to Africa as a whole. Carruthers and his colleagues believe that the values of Kemetic civilization are far superior to the isolating and oppressive, ancient Greek-based values of European and American civilization. Although academic Egyptologists and anthropologists strongly reject these historical claims, Carruthers dismisses critics as part of a white supremacist conspiracy to hide the truth of African superiority.
Carruthers’s key writings are collected in his book, Intellectual Warfare. Reading it is a wild, anti-American ride. In his book, we learn that Carruthers and his like-minded colleagues have formed an organization called the Association for the Study of Classical African Civilizations (ASCAC), which takes as its mission the need to “dismantle the European intellectual campaign to commit historicide against African peoples.” Carruthers includes “African-Americans” within a group he would define as simply “African.” When forced to describe a black person as “American,” Carruthers uses quotation marks, thus indicating that no black person can be American in any authentic sense. According to Carruthers, “The submission to Western civilization and its most outstanding offspring, American civilization, is, in reality, surrender to white supremacy.”
Carruthers’s goal is to use African-centered education to recreate a separatist universe within America, a kind of state-within-a-state. The rites of passage movement is central to the plan. Carruthers sees enemies on every part of the political spectrum, from conservatives, to liberals, to academic leftists, all of whom reject advocates of Kemetic civilization, like himself, as dangerous and academically irresponsible extremists. Carruthers sees all these groups as deluded captives of white supremacist Eurocentric culture. Therefore the only safe place for Africans living in the United States (i.e. American blacks) is outside the mental boundaries of our ineradicably racist Eurocentric civilization. As Carruthers puts it: “…some of us have chosen to reject the culture of our oppressors and recover our disrupted ancestral culture.” The rites of passage movement is a way to teach young Africans in the United States how to reject America and recover their authentic African heritage.
America as Rape
Carruthers admits that Africans living in America have already been shaped by Western culture, yet compares this Americanization process to rape: “We may not be able to get our virginity back after the rape, but we do not have to marry the rapist….” In other words, American blacks (i.e. Africans) may have been forcibly exposed to American culture, but that doesn’t mean they need to accept it. The better option, says Carruthers, is to separate out and relearn the wisdom of Africa’s original Kemetic culture, embodied in the teachings of the ancient wise man, Ptahhotep (an historical figure traditionally identified as the author of a Fifth Dynasty wisdom book). Anything less than re-Africanization threatens the mental, and even physical, genocide of Africans living in an ineradicably white supremacist United States.
Carruthers is a defender of Leonard Jeffries, professor in the department of black studies at City College in Harlem, infamous for his black supremacist and anti-Semitic views. Jeffries sees whites as oppressive and violent “ice people,” in contrast to peaceful and mutually supportive black “sun people.” The divergence says Jeffries, is attributable to differing levels of melanin in the skin. Jeffries also blames Jews for financing the slave trade. Carruthers defends Jeffries and excoriates the prestigious black academics Carruthers views as traitorous for denouncing their African brother, Jeffries. Carruthers’s vision of the superior and peaceful Kemetic philosophy of Ptahhotep triumphing over Greco-Euro-American-white culture obviously parallels Jeffries’ opposition between ice people and sun people.
More of Carruthers’s education philosophy can be found in his newsletter, The Kemetic Voice. In 1997, for example, at the same time Carruthers was advising SSAVC on how to set up an African-centered curriculum, he praised the decision of New Orleans’ School Board to remove the name of George Washington from an elementary school. Apparently, some officials in New Orleans had decided that nobody who held slaves should have a school named after him. Carruthers touted the name-change as proof that his African-centered perspective was finally having an effect on public policy. At the demise of George Washington School, Carruthers crowed: “These events remind us of how vast the gulf is that separates the Defenders of Western Civilization from the Champions of African Civilization.”
According to Chicago Annenberg Challenge records, Carruthers’s training session on African-centered curricula for SSAVC teachers was a huge hit: “As a consciousness raising session, it received rave reviews, and has prepared the way for the curriculum readiness survey….” These teacher-training workshops were directly funded by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Another sure sign of the ideological cast of SSAVC’s curriculum can be found in Annenberg documents noting that SSAVC students are taught the wisdom of Ptahhotep. Carruthers’s concerns about “menticide” and “genocide” at the hand of America’s white supremacist system seem to be echoed in an SSAVC document that says: “Our children need to understand the historical context of our struggles for liberation from those forces that seek to destroy us.”
When Jeremiah Wright turned toward African-centered thinking in the late 1980s and early 1990s (the period when, attracted by Wright’s African themes, Barack Obama first became a church member), many prominent thinkers from Carruthers’s Association for the Study of Classical African Civilizations were invited to speak at Trinity United Church of Christ, Carruthers himself included. We hear echoes of Carruthers’s work in Wright’s distinction between “right brained” Africans and “left brained” Europeans, in Wright’s fears of U.S. government-sponsored genocide against American blacks, and in Wright’s embittered attacks on America’s indelibly white-supremacist history. In Wright’s Trumpet Newsmagazine, as in Carruthers’s own writings, blacks are often referred to as “Africans living in the diaspora” rather than as Americans.
Asa Hilliard
Chicago Annenberg Challenge records also indicate that SSAVC educators invited Asa Hilliard, a pioneer of African-centered curricula and a close colleague of Carruthers, to offer a keynote address at yet another Annenberg-funded teacher training session. Hilliard’s ties to Wright run still deeper than Carruthers’s. A close Wright mentor and friend, Hilliard died in 2007 while on a trip to Kemet (Egypt) with Wright and members of Wright’s congregation. Hillard was scheduled to deliver several lectures to the congregants, and to speak at a meeting of the Association for the Study of Classical African Civilization, which he co-founded with Carruthers and other “African-centered” scholars. On that last trip, Hilliard accepted an appointment to the board of Wright’s new elementary school, Kwame Nkrumah Academy. Speaking of the need for such a school, Wright had earlier said, “We need to educate our children to the reality of white supremacy.” (For more on Wright’s Afrocentric school, see “Jeremiah Wright’s ‘Trumpet.’”)
Wright delivered the eulogy at Hilliard’s memorial service, with prominent members of ASCAC in the audience. To commemorate Hilliard, a special, two-cover double issue of Wright’s Trumpet Newsmagazine was published, with a picture of Hilliard on one side, and a picture of Louis Farrakhan on the other (in celebration of a 2007 award Farrakhan received from Wright). In short, the ties between Wright and Hilliard could hardly have been closer. Clearly, then, Wright’s own educational philosophy was mirrored at the Annenberg-funded SSAVC, which sought out Hilliard’s and Carruthers’s counsel to construct its curriculum.
Perhaps inadvertently, Wright’s eulogy for Hilliard actually established the fringe nature of his favorite African-centered scholars. In his tribute, Wright stressed how intensely “white Egyptologists recoiled at the very notion of everything Asa taught.” As Wright himself made plain, it seems virtually impossible to find respectable scholars of any political stripe who approve of the extremist anti-American version of Afrocentrism promoted by Hilliard and Carruthers.
Ayers’s Pals
An important exception to the rule is Bill Ayers himself, who not only worked with Obama to fund groups like this at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, but who is still “palling around” with the same folks. Discretely waiting until after the election, Bill Ayers and his wife, and fellow former terrorist, Bernardine Dohrn plan to release a book in 2009 entitled Race Course Against White Supremacy. The book will be published by Third World Press, a press set up by Carruthers and other members of the ASCAC. Representatives of that press were prominently present for Wright’s eulogy at Asa Hilliard’s memorial service. Less than a decade ago, therefore, when it came to education issues, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, and Jeremiah Wright were pretty much on the same page.
Obama’s Knowledge
Given the precedent of his earlier responses on Ayers and Wright, Obama might be inclined to deny personal knowledge of the educational philosophy he was so generously funding. Such a denial would not be convincing. For one thing, we have evidence that in 1995, the same year Obama assumed control of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, he publicly rejected “the unrealistic politics of integrationist assimilation,” a stance that clearly resonates with both Wright and Carruthers. (See “No Liberation.”)
And as noted, Wright had invited Carruthers, Hilliard, and like-minded thinkers to address his Trinity congregants. Wright likes to tick off his connections to these prominent Afrocentrists in sermons, and Obama would surely have heard of them. Reading over SSAVC’s Annenberg proposals, Obama could hardly be ignorant of what they were about. And if by some chance Obama overlooked Hilliard’s or Carruthers’s names, SSAVC’s proposals are filled with references to “rites of passage” and “Ptahhotep,” dead giveaways for the anti-American and separatist ideological concoction favored by SSAVC.
We know that Obama did read the proposals. Annenberg documents show him commenting on proposal quality. And especially after 1995, when concerns over self-dealing and conflicts of interest forced the Ayers-headed “Collaborative” to distance itself from monetary issues, all funding decisions fell to Obama and the board. Significantly, there was dissent within the board. One business leader and experienced grant-smith characterized the quality of most Annenberg proposals as “awful.” (See “The Chicago Annenberg Challenge: The First Three Years,” p. 19.) Yet Obama and his very small and divided board kept the money flowing to ideologically extremist groups like the South Shore African Village Collaborative, instead of organizations focused on traditional educational achievement.
As if the content of SSAVC documents wasn’t warning enough, their proposals consistently misspelled “rites of passage” as “rights of passage,” hardly an encouraging sign from a group meant to improve children’s reading skills. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge’s own evaluators acknowledged that Annenberg-aided schools showed no improvement in achievement scores. Evaluators attributed that failure, in part, to the fact that many of Annenberg’s “external partners” had little educational expertise. A group that puts its efforts into Kwanzaa celebrations and half-baked history certainly fits that bill, and goes a long way toward explaining how Ayers and Obama managed to waste upwards of $150 million without improving student achievement.
However he may seek to deny it, all evidence points to the fact that, from his position as board chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Barack Obama knowingly and persistently funded an educational project that shared the extremist and anti-American philosophy of Jeremiah Wright. The Wright affair was no fluke. It’s time for McCain to say so.
— Stanley Kurtz is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
—————————————- Do you understand Mr. Tax Policy pusher what the point is here. Americans Tax dollars from high taxes, will go to fund this sort of education. This is not equality for all American students, but political and race impowerment for only radicals. Pushing radicalization is not proper with tax dollar, but only hypocrisy and racism!

Posted by: uncle sam | October 14, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Why I Am Not Voting For Barack Hussein Obama
First, I believe that Obama is a Socialist. I came to this decision based on his past and present associations with known far- left radicals and, as well as his ties to organizations in this country and governments abroad, all of which have endorsed his bid for the presidency, and his ideologies and tactics; namely, ACORN, Franklin Raines, Penny Pritzer, Jim Johnson, Carl Davidson of the New Party, George Soros, Aryeh Neier, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, George Wiley, Wade Rathke, Saul Alinsky, Tides Foundation, Woods Fund, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Ahmed Yousef, Muammar Khadafi, Louis Farrakhan, Yasser Khalil, Father Pfleger, Reverend Meeks, Rashid Khalidi, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Tony Rezko, Framk Marshall Davis, Howard Machtinger, Jeff Jones, Steve Tappis and Mark Rudd, Khaleed Al-Mansoor, and many, many more. If anyone bothers to research the above list, and I have my doubts that anyone will from this blog site, they will find that Barrack Hussein Obama is not the Messiah, the Chosen One, if you will. You do
not matter to this man. The only thing that matters to Obama is Obama, who has been waiting for himself to come along to change America from a democratic society to a communist society. I, personally, enjoy the freedoms I have, such as being allowed to write this blog without fear. Ask youself why millions of foreigners dream of living in America. Freedom. God bless it!

Posted by: suzientn | October 14, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

I was at the speech last night and I have to say that Joe Biden did an outstanding job voicing the concerns of America and telling us all how Senator Obama planned to fix the problems we face today. He was passionate and funny, proving to those of us who know him that he’s still Good Ole Joey B from Wilmington. He reinvigorated the Delaware Democratic Party last night and I hope he’s done the same for anyone within the broadcast radius.
I think everyone needs to stop being blinded by political affiliations and listen tot he issues and think long and hard about who is REALLY going to help us. To be perfectly honest, I was not a Barack Obama supporter from the beginning. But I started listening to him and I was convinced: he can help our country to return to it’s higher status – he may not be able to do it right away, but I believe Obama/Biden is the right ticket to help restore our country, our economy, our America.

Posted by: Ms. Smith | October 14, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Ms Smith,
I’m from Iowa. I volunteered for Joe’s presidential campaign, so I got to meet Joe, see him interact with people, and hear him speak a number of times, as well as Jill, and Beau, and Ashley, and so on. I think they are all wonderful people. Jill is such a sweetheart, and Joe is warm and funny and empathetic. Beau seems to be a chip off the ol’ block.
I was still a strong suporter after the bad caucus turnout, and in fact my Biden for President stickers are still on our car. I was really down on Obama for flooding those caucuses with young people, so I didn’t even give him a chance until he picked Joe for VP. At that point I had to take a deep breath and get past my mind set. I said to myself that he finally proved to me that he did have good judgment by picking Joe for his VP. I have gotten to the point now where Barack is growing on me. I appreciate the fact that he and Joe seem to genuinely like each other and make a good team. I think they will be good for America.
OBAMA/BIDEN ’08!!

Posted by: Donna Hughes | October 14, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Why would McCain call Obama a “decent family man”? Because it’s true? Why doesn’t McCain bring up ties to Ayers in debates? Because it’s not true? Maybe it’s time to listen to your candidate. The kind of BS on these boards by McCain supporters is not even supported by your candidate.

Posted by: josephbbl | October 14, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

It wasn’t that many months ago that Joe Biden stated Senator Obama was not qualified to be President.
Amazing how the other side of Biden’s mouth opened up to praise Obama once Obama asked him to be his running mate.

Posted by: LJC | October 14, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Surprise! Illegal ACORN registrations do, in fact, lead to illegal ACORN ballots! From the NY Post:
Investigators probing ACORN have learned that an Ohio man registered to vote several times and CAST A BOGUS BALLOT with a fake address, officials said yesterday, as they revealed that nearly 4,000 registration applications supplied by the left-leaning activist group were suspect.
The vote of Darnell Nash, one of four people subpoenaed in a Cuyahoga County probe of ACORN’s voter-registration activities, was canceled and his case was turned over to local prosecutors and law enforcement, Board of Elections officials said yesterday.
Nash had registered to vote repeatedly from an address that belonged to a legitimately registered voter, officials said during a hearing at which the subpoenaed voters were to testify.
Board officials had contacted Nash this summer, questioned his address and told him to stop repeat registering.
But still, he breezed into Ohio election offices – the state allows early voting for president – reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said.
“He came in on 9/30 and Mr. Nash again registered to vote at [someone else's] address, and he cast a ballot,” said board official Jane Platten.
Nash did not turn up for the hearing.
Expect to hear about a lot more of these, especially in Ohio, where the Obama campaign is trying to steal the state with great help from same day registrations.

Posted by: Illegal ACORN Voters = Illegal Votes | October 14, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Soooo if you were in a board meeting and your colleague was deal coke or laundering money that would be you too are a coke dealer and are friends with a money laundering coke dealer? THINK PEOPLE. Guilt by association is not unethical. Hmm no one brings up the Keating 5 Oh wait that would be contradicting. As for the Peace Corp deal youve got to be kidding. I pretty sure that would be voluntary, I think he means it should just be pushed more to get lazy spoiled teenagers to acutally contribute to society instead of doing drugs and hanging out in bad places. It’s called encouraging them to do something good. As for taxes, please raise your hand if you think we can continue to deal with mounting debt in Iraq, a national deficit that is skyrocketing without raising taxes. you can thank the Republicans for raising the economic strain on this country and guess who they pass the bill to when they leave office! Little lesson, Government makes money and funds projects from taxes. If the cost of projects go up, you need more money. Please tell me how we can pay for all this stuff without raising taxes….If you didnt want higher taxes then you shouldnt have voted for Bush to cause this country to go broke. Oh wait you were duped into voting because the karl rove fear machine made you do it. any one seen any chemical attacks in their neighborhood lately? I guess that TSA guy with the cushy government job is keeping you safe hahaha

Posted by: doug | October 14, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Pennsylvania has a November suprise for snotty Obama. He will not humiliate the good people of PA and take this state for granted. No, no, no… Mr. Obama.
PA is a RED STATE now.

Posted by: ml | October 14, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

HAHAHHAHAHA one person in the whole state of PA?

Posted by: Doug | October 14, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

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