By Nitya

Oct 23, 2008 8:23am

Which Candidate is Al Qaeda’s Choice?

The McCain campaign aggressively pushed back against stories in the Washington Post and the Associated Press about a commentary posted on the website al-Hesbah, which some have suggested is linked to al Qaeda, calling for Al Qaeda supporters to help elect Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

"Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election," the commenter said, arguing that McCain would continued the "failing march of his predecessor, Bush."

The poster, Muhammad Haafid — who experts say is said to NOT have "a direct affiliation with Al Qaeda plans or knowledge of its operations" — also said that a terrorist strike against the U.S. "will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaeda. Al Qaeda then will succeed in exhausting America."

Adam Raisman, a senior analyst for the Site Intelligence Group, which monitors the al-Hesbah website, told the Post that "The idea in the jihadist forums is that McCain would be a faithful ‘son of Bush’ — someone they see as a jingoist and a war hawk. They think that, to succeed in a war of attrition, they need a leader in Washington like McCain."

"If one takes one individual Islamist blogger from one terrorist Islamist blog, who has come up with this statement that it would be good to have McCain in the White House, I think one has to consider the motives," responded former CIA director Jim Woolsey, a McCain supporter.

On a conference call arranged by the McCain campaign, Woolsey said that Haafid "knows that the endorsement of people like him is a kiss of death, figuratively and literally, so it seems to me it’s pretty clear that by making this statement that he wants, that it would be a good thing for McCain to be President, he is clearly trying to damage John McCain, not speaking from his heart. So I must say I think the overall structure of the debate as one analyzes it coming out of this story taken at face value is quite remarkable."

More importantly, Woolsey said, McCain as one of the original proponents of the surge strategy in Iraq has been responsible for crippling Al Qaeda.

"On important aspect of the change in strategy was to link up with the Sunnis and the Awakening Movement in the Anbar Province and to cooperate in going after Al Qaeda in Iraq," Woolsey said. "In posting after posting, it was clear from al-Qaeda itself and from Bin Laden’s statements and Zawahiri’s statements that this link up which John McCain was essentially the father of, this change in strategy, was what was causing al-Qaeda in Iraq, which Al Qaeda put at right in front of their struggle, the biggest difficulty and the biggest problem. It was killing Al Qaeda in Iraq, leaders that drew the biggest concern from Al Qaeda and from really all of the Islamists."

Concluded the former CIA director: "John McCain was responsible as much as anyone in the country for that turn around. It is ridiculous to believe that in its heart of hearts Al Qaeda wants John McCain to be the President. And it is ludicrous."

McCain’s senior foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann said, "if we are going to talk about who had got support from terrorist groups in this election I am going to read some quotes, I am not going to characterize them, I will let others judge whether the amount of expression of support or opposition whether they amount to expressions of endorsement or opposition.

"First, this week a Hamas spokesman, Ahmed Yousef, said quote, ‘I do believe Mr. Biden is a great man and we do count on him as also a good partner with Mr. Obama to put the right policy regarding how to handle problems in the region. It is good for America to have the new administration with someone like Mr. Obama and his vision for change. I do believe actually with this administration, the Bush administration, we don’t have luck in ending our isolation. We as Palestinians are thinking we might have better luck with the new administration if Obama wins the election. I do believe that he will change American foreign policy in the way they are handling the Middle East.’

Scheunemann continued, "Second, last month when Iranian President Ahmadinejad was in the United States, he was asked by a student whether he supports Democratic nominee Barack Obama or Republican John McCain. This is what president Ahmadinejad, who has called for the extinction of Israel has said, quote, ‘the American government 28 years ago decided to cut its own ties with Iran. We do prefer to have relations whereas one of the candidates in this election would prefer that.’ I think everybody on this call understands which candidate for president has endorsed unconditional meetings with president Ahmadinejad.

"Three, from Muammar Qaddafi of Libya, he said talking about Obama ‘all the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man. They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaign to enable him to win the American presidency.’"

The McCain adviser then seemed to suggest that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., would clearly be Al Qaeda’s choice.

"Only Senator Obama has advocated withdrawal and surrender to Al Qaeda in Iraq when Al Qaeda was at the peak of its power," he said. "Senator Obama advocated a withdrawal and voted against funding for our troops while we were engaged in fighting with Al Qaeda in early 2007, when Al Qaeda was at the peak of its power."

The Obama campaign had no comment about Haafid’s posting.

– jpt

User Comments

McAlQaeda, that is the final judgement on McSame’s candidacy. He will destroy America and its standing in the world just as WBush has done it during the past 8 years. God save America from McSame and Sarh Miss Congeniality Palin.

Posted by: BKMC | October 23, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

Well, I can’t believe this election. First, I become a republican and then I agree with AlQaeda on something. Go figure.

Posted by: Mac | October 23, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am

Ever wonder where 150 million came from, over the internet, in 1 month for Obama? There’s your answer.

Posted by: Scabby-Nubtail | October 23, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

Of course Al Qaeda wants a front on Arab soil to fight Americans. EVERYBODY knows that.
So yes, they certainly prefer a McCain Presidency.
Just as Hamas always sabotaged peace agreements between Israelis and Palestinians, with bombings and suicide attacks. Hamas wants to fight and kill as well; they prefer war-like situations.
Terrorists want to fight and kill. It’s difficult for Al Qaeda to kill our sons and daughters when they are no longer around in Iraq.

Posted by: reeves | October 23, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

Scabby…
What are you talking about. Obama is getting his money from Americans. I’m sure some Arab Americans are donating money, too. But you cannot just make up smears about Obama and treat them like fact.

Posted by: blip | October 23, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

Calling names does not change the facts.
Obama has ties to terroist and does not appologize for them only screams his innocence. I am afraid for our country if Obama becomes President he puts on a good Hollywood show but has no experience to defend our country.

Posted by: 1nana23 | October 23, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Numbers from second set of polls from the Big Ten conference states:
Illinois: Obama 61, McCain 32
Indiana: Obama 51, McCain 41
Iowa: Obama 52, McCain 39
Ohio: Obama 53, McCain 41
Michigan: Obama 58, McCain 36
Minnesota: Obama 57, McCain 38
Pennsylvania: Obama 52, McCain 41
Wisconsin: Obama 53, McCain 40
National number: Obama 52, McCain 42. Error margin 3.1 points.
John McCain’s comment: “OUCH!!!”

Posted by: sue | October 23, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

Al Qaeda wants McCain to win so that there will be more recruits for terrorists.

Posted by: Sandy | October 23, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

This whole article is ridiculous spin. What would the response have been from the McCain campaign if this so called AlQaeda site endorsed Obama??? I’m sure they would have been pushing it then.
You just have to ignore noise like this!!!

Posted by: Melinda | October 23, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am

From Quinnipiac University polls today:
Florida: Obama 49, McCain 44
Ohio: Obama 52, McCain 38
Pennsylvania: Obama 53, McCain 40
McCain’s comments: “NO!!!!… MOMMY HELP!!!”

Posted by: sue | October 23, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am

What’s this John McCain “palling around with terrorists”.

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Jim Woosley would also tell ya the last eight years have been the best times he’s seen in America. These people are truly blinded by their vicious ambitions. The likes of Al Qaeda may have used barbarian tactics to rule but make no mistake about it – some in our side are also vicious radicals.

Posted by: D | October 23, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

Ultimately, we shouldn’t really be paying attention to who AlQaeda endorses.
Of course, I am sure bin Laden is laughing at our economic woes… because every one knows that the Iraq War is the prime cause of our staggering debt…
But we shouldn’t base our voting on their PR.

Posted by: blip | October 23, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

LOL. Al Qaeda doesn’t know what they want. Assuming “they” is even referring to something resembling an organized group. They are in shambles. Like they have some master plan that is working out. Hilarious. Reminds me of the Taliban guy saying that they will defeat the American invaders. Hahaha. This is the same group that thought the 9/11 attack would scare the fat, lazy Americans out of the middle east. Yeah I guess that master plan didn’t work out so well, eh?

Posted by: Joe Mama | October 23, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

Of course Qaddafi supports Obama, there is a direct link with Farrakhan, Wright and Obama. Qaddafi even says that Obama is a muslim and they share the same views of a Pan Arab Africa. That is where the other troubling names come in too, Auchi, Odinga, etc. When you really get into and look (as the MSM refuses to do) you are really alarmed. Not a pretty picture and this is only part of what the MSM hasn’t vetted Obama on.

Posted by: samhiguchi | October 23, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Seriously, Jake, why didn’t you bring up that Woolsey’s argument as to why al Qaida doesn’t “really” support McCain defeats his argument as to why Hamas “supports” Obama?
And that he was asked that question during the call and didn’t have an answer?

Posted by: eric | October 23, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Blip -
“You cannot just make up smears about Obama and treat them as fact.”
But they can and they do. That’s all they’ve got left. This kind of stuff keeps the wing nuts all hot and bothered but it has alienated Independents and moderate Republicans. As an Obama supporter, I hope they keep it up.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | October 23, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Terrorists are voting for Obama….OBVIOUSLY!!! he’s already got TERRORISTS FRIENDS!!! plus he’s a COWARD…wants to get out of Iraq and Terrorists want us out of Iraq!

Posted by: Jack | October 23, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

You peopl think that Obama got his money that way WRONG >>>Youa er the type tat kleep the HATE goin in this country.Nice job you idoits>>>>>

Posted by: NH voter | October 23, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Yeah, like Islamic militants are going to be truthful with us about who they’d like to have in charge of the U.S.
Right and Left should both be smart enough to ignore anything they say. You can’t be sure whether they are playing reverse-psychology, or double-reverse-psychology.

Posted by: gustav | October 23, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Terrorists are voting for Obama….OBVIOUSLY!!! he’s already got TERRORISTS FRIENDS!!! plus he’s a COWARD…wants to get out of Iraq and Terrorists want us out of Iraq!

Posted by: Jack | October 23, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

If you have an enemy one of the first rules of planning and strategy is to never make decisions based on what you think the enemy wants you to do. If you do you are reacting to your enemy’s behavior and are all too easily manipulated. The McCain camp is an excellent example of this kind of reactive decision making. Decisions should be faced on the facts, removed from emotion.

Posted by: David | October 23, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

Terrorists are voting for Obama….OBVIOUSLY!!! he’s already got TERRORISTS FRIENDS!!! plus he’s a COWARD…wants to get out of Iraq and Terrorists want us out of Iraq!
Posted by: Jack | Oct 23, 2008 9:04:10 AM
Yeah jack anybody who voted for Obama is a terrorist. When it comes to cowards look at John McCains past.

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

Interesting on two notes.
It’s interesting that the McCain camp found it necessary to defend, explain and spin this. Haven’t they learned that the Obama campaign just isn’t into distractions such as these?
For argument’s sake, if this “endorsement” is real (not some hoax)it makes a strong point. The point being that should McCain/Palin win the presidency the economic future of the USA will deteriorate to the point that the country will be seen as vulnerable and an easy target.
Imagine this scenario. McCain’s presidency falls into the hands of Palin. The USA has become weaker than in 1929. If you were a group intent on destroying the United States government wouldn’t this be the perfectly timed opportunity?

Posted by: mdj | October 23, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am

That’s it. After reading this article I know Obama will be president, even though I already knew.

Posted by: Haroon Saki | October 23, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

Posted by: mdj | Oct 23, 2008 9:08:20 AM
You are right. Hit the nail on the head.

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Posted by: ralph Crandon | October 23, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

So John McCain stole a page from old Joe McCarthy: reducing his campaign to lies, half-truths, innuendos, gossip. Well in Wisconsin we know the dirt such demagogues hide about themselves and their pals.
Old John, for example, hasn’t been honest about his friendship with felon and terrorist G. Gordon Liddy. McCain, on Liddy’s radio show a year ago. puffed “It’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon. Congratulations on your … adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.”
Liddy orchestrated the Watergate break-in of Democratic Party headquarters and planned assassinations plus bombings to reelect President Nixon. He did four years in prison. Recently he encouraged a cult to kill federal officers. This domestic terrorist contributed $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns and in 1998 hosted a fund raiser for old John. (Huffington 5/5/08)
How about old John’s close relationship with convicted felon Jim Hensley? Hensley did time in prison for falsifying liquor records. He was prosecuted a few years later on the same charge. Hensley was the father of the rich woman McCain married. Hensley, like McCain, abandoned his poor first wife and child but McCain called Hensley a role model during a Katy Couric interview 8/23/08.
Then there’s old John’s censure by the Senate for “bad judgment” for helping orchestrate Savings and Loan frauds of Charles Keating Jr. that cost taxpayers $3 billion. John had to pony up what Keating and allies contributed to McCain, $112,000, and $13,433 for illegal trips on Keating’s jet. WNBC 10/09/08) Keating went to prison.
At the recent rally in Wisconsin old John played loose with facts when he told the crowd that Sarah Palin had sold the Alaska state jet on eBay and then yelled, “And she sold it for a profit.” Palin did put it on eBay, where it sat unsold. Finally a broker sold it for 20% less than it was worth. (Newsday, 10/12/08) Isn’t this the same fib she told the Republican Convention?
Old “Tail Gunner Joe” McCarthy would be proud of McCainism.

Posted by: Franklynn Peterson | October 23, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

You guys at ABC should be ashamed of yourselves.
Al Quade is terrified of John McCain.
They and the liberal medis”thats YOU” would like to think we are all stupid and therefore go vote for the empty shirt obama who talks and acts like Al quade. He wont salute the flag, wants to change the national anthem and swears to stand with islam if the winds of war blow that way. Give me a break ABC. Stop reading your own garbage.
Posted by: ralph Crandon | Oct 23, 2008 9:11:31 AM
Terrified of what? He’s lost his marbles, which is obvious from his campaign tactics .

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am

you people who continue to claim Obama has terrorist ties are completely disillusioned. The man is a Christian, ffs. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK RED-NECKED HEAD! I’m sure AlQaeda, in all it’s loose organization, has folks on both sides of the fence as far as who would better serve their goals as US Prez. That has no bearing, as no one in AlQaeda (i hope and pray) has a vote here in the States. This is yet another distraction from the real issues and concerns of America. Look at how well it’s working with some of these idiots. So sad and pathetic. I hope we as a country can stand up tall soon. As it is, I am ashamed of many of my fellow countrymen. Yet, I do love this country (as some sure would argue otherwise- they’re fools), and hope the best for all of us.

Posted by: joshgeek | October 23, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am

Osama Bin Ladin stated that he would beat the US by destroying them economically. This he has done with great success using the republican party and their known weaknesses: quest for weak government and greed for money. All America can see how effective they have been. Al Qaida knows they can tweak the right-wing nose and they go nuts. Of course Al Qaida wants the republicans to stay in power, especially McCain. They know exactly what he is going to do. Keep spending billions of dollars in Iraq while Al Qaida keeps vacationing in Pakistan. Pleas get someone with a brain in government.

Posted by: Ron Tuttle | October 23, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

THE NEWS MEDIA IS NOTHING BUT SCUM! YOU DON’T REPORT NEWS, YOU REPORT YOUR OPINIONS.

Posted by: larry | October 23, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

Folks, do not be distracted by Al Qaeda,
They should not change the way we live.
They have no right and should not scare
anyone. If we follow what
they say, we give them the power
and they emerge as winners and
we remain loosers.

Posted by: FM | October 23, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

“Yeah jack anybody who voted for Obama is a terrorist.”
Cut him some slack, it’s what he hears in the morning on right wing hate radio, what he reads on Drudge all day long at work, and what he sees on FOX at night before bedtime. Republican extremists have set up an alternate media framework to keep the party faithful ignorant and outraged – and eager to believe anything. Thank God America finally stopped hiding from terrorists long enough to see through their repugnant sham. Bye Bye GOP!

Posted by: Tim B | October 23, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

This shows the stupidity of the McCain campaign. He lumps in Qaddafi with Al Qaeda???? Didn’t he read the news? Qaddafi is basically our friend. Are they going to want to invade Libya as one of the acts of a McCain Presidency??? What idiots.
“Three, from Muammar Qaddafi of Libya, he said talking about Obama ‘all the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man. They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaign to enable him to win the American presidency.’”
The McCain adviser then seemed to suggest that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., would clearly be Al Qaeda’s choice.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | October 23, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Posted by: Tim B | Oct 23, 2008 9:18:08 AM
I was reading some of the sites these nuts quote. I am amazed that people are stupid enough to believe most of it.

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

oh, and the commie/socialist jibe… Just stop. If we want to get technical, having a government at all is socialist. Taxes are socialist. Yet, we’ve had these things since our independence. You’re just pissed about the degree to which he will tax those who have the money. Do you really make over 250k, CDS? I doubt it, and if you do, you’ve had 7+ years of LOWERED tax rates. Seeing how much better off we are than 7 years ago… You sound like a whining baby. NO! DONT TAKE MY DOLLY FROM ME! WAAAH. NOT MORE TAXES! We can’t bail out wall street and buy up mortgages and all without a way to pay for it. People like you would rather see us indebted to the chinese than pay for the things we as a whole need to pay for. For shame.

Posted by: joshgeek | October 23, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

An article of distraction – like most – doesn’t speak to the issues – just seeks to provide rhetoric fodder no matter which side you are on. As an American I am grieved by how divided we have become. I do not expect us to always agree with each other. I do pray that we will always stand together as “One Nation Under God” or else the words of Benjamin Franklin become true –”If we do not hang together, we will surely hang apart!”

Posted by: Joel | October 23, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

McCain-Bush fools: this is why the Iranian like a continuation of Bush-McCain policies–
“The big story is Iraq, and the Americans unwittingly opened it up for the Iranians” by their invasion in 2003, analyst Farid al-Khazen, a Christian Lebanese lawmaker whose party is allied with Hezbollah said. “There is a Shiite majority, oil, the shrine cities and borders with Saudi Arabia.”

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | October 23, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

Barack called in a favor.

Posted by: boo | October 23, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Posted by: Jwench | Oct 23, 2008 9:21:26 AM
They rely on demonization of opponents and a perpetual sense of outrage to motivate the base. Take the ACORN thing as but the latest example of Republican hysterics. When people hear what actually happened they can’t believe how disingenuous the McCain camp has gotten. They whip their followers into a frenzy and then wonder why people scream “terrorist” and “kill him” at GOP rallies. It’s all very satisfying to see that husk of a once respectable political party finally get its comeuppance.

Posted by: Tim B | October 23, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

joshgeek
the only reason it APPEARS the McCain is behind is because of the liberal media and their lies. You watch, my friend, McCain will win in a landslide. I guarentee it!!!!

Posted by: larry | October 23, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

joshgeek
the only reason it APPEARS the McCain is behind is because of the liberal media and their lies. You watch, my friend, McCain will win in a landslide. I guarentee it!!!!
Posted by: larry | Oct 23, 2008 9:28:21 AM
You mean fixing another election like the one in 2000? The only lies I have seen, have come out of your candidates mouth and that pitbull of his.(Sorry pitbulls for insulting you)

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

An obama administration will be the end of this country.

Posted by: markmywords | October 23, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Posted by: Joel | October 23, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

I dislike Bush for what he has done to this country.”
Oh you just wait, JWRENCH, if Obama gets in you’ll see what real trouble is for our country. You got it good now honey!
Posted by: Lisa | Oct 23, 2008 9:31:40 AM
Don’t you people realize people are tired of the same old crap the Republicans put out there? You are seeing the death of the Republican party this year, thank God for that.

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

This is a no brainer…..of course the terrorist groups would prefer Obama over McCain. Obama like the terrorist groups has a cult like, non thinking following.
McCain/Palin 2008

Posted by: jo | October 23, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Posted by joel:We should learn from history as it does repeat itself! — Last time America was trying to end a war and fix the economy we made the decision to elect a Democrat named Carter. The Democratic policies did wonders for our nation??? Seems a Republican named Reagan was the answer — not another Democrat. Democrats have controlled the Congress — that’s why we are in the economic turmoil. Study the facts!
Joel, you are absolutely right. Couldn’t have said it better myself!!!

Posted by: Nancy | October 23, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

reeves said “McCain is Al Qaeda’s last hope for seriously damaging American lives and interests.”
This fails to recognize how much damage Al Qaeda’s has already done. Bin Laden’s $100K investment in the 9/11, yielded returns of at least $2trillion in damage to American interests, thanks to Bush’s brainless response. Al Qaeda is truly part of the 0.1% of people who gained under the Bush administration, and is far more likely to be able to goad McCain (or Palin) into a similar erratic irrational, and self-destructive response, than Obama.

Posted by: davepullin | October 23, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

We should learn from history as it does repeat itself! — Last time America was trying to end a war and fix the economy we made the decision to elect a Democrat named Carter. The Democratic policies did wonders for our nation??? Seems a Republican named Reagan was the answer — not another Democrat. Democrats have controlled the Congress — that’s why we are in the economic turmoil. Study the facts!
Posted by: Joel | Oct 23, 2008 9:32:53 AM
Excuse me you missed a President named Clinton who had a surplus and a decent economy. Then Bush 2 shows up and we have trillions in debt due to a war we should have never started.

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Nat Turner “Obama fits Christianity by his deeds” –
The bible says homosexuality is an abomination to God. Last I checked, abortion stops a beating heart. Obama supports same sex marriage and is pro-abortion. THIS FITS CHRISTIANITY AND WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS?? I hope you vote with your morals before your wallet.

Posted by: joreg | October 23, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Why is this story news? How would anyone here stateside know who terrorists would vote for?

Posted by: The Last Man | October 23, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Good Lord – Give the Repub’s some lies to sink their teeth into and they hang on like pit bulls! (with lipstick!)
If McSame and his moronic running mate gets in office, I hope you have a good fallout shelter to live in.
Obama ’08

Posted by: breeze55 | October 23, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Why is this story news? How would anyone here stateside know who terrorists would vote for?
Posted by: The Last Man | Oct 23, 2008 9:38:24 AM
If you read the article it was posted on a website.

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

Posted by: joel | October 23, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

Obama’s campaign should come out vigorously against this Al Qaeda posting. Al Qaeda is a foreign entity and has not vote in the election.
I believe the threat of Al Qaeda has already forced the western world to rein in human rights and freedoms with Bush’s Patriot Act as an example.
We shouldn’t also allow Al Qaeda to influence the national election: the obvious epicenter of democracy.
McCain’s campaign should refrain from the knee-jerk reaction of saying that terrorists really want Obama to win. Though I don’t expect to see that much strength of character from his campaign. We’ve already seen how they’ve been willing to link Obama’s name to terrorism in a vain effort to win this election.

Posted by: NittyGritty08 | October 23, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

There are real people in this world that will do anything they can to kill american’s. They do not care if you are democrat or republican. I am pretty sure they did not ask our captured soildiers or truckers in Iraq that before they lobed off their head with a knife. The majority of people in Iraq liked americans no matter how bad the media made it look. But lets not forget it is war which is a brutal, horrible thing and is better fought on our enimies soil than ours. Which president will take the fight to them or let them grow stronger by pretending they don’t exist. The democrats really got us into this, Clinton was asleep at the wheel during the Cole bombing, two embassy bombings and a world trade center bombing attempt.

Posted by: ryan | October 23, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Obama and acorn with NBC are stealing the election.

Posted by: nuts | October 23, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Many people have known this of the enemy for a long time. Their threats helped manipulate the last election and keep Bush in office for a second term. They want McCain in office because he and Palin will continue Bush’s plan and run America into the ground. The best thing for America will be an Obama administration for many reasons.

Posted by: Desi | October 23, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

jwench “Excuse me you missed a President named Clinton who had a surplus and a decent economy. Then Bush 2 shows up and we have trillions in debt due to a war we should have never started.”
jwench — You should be sure to note that the majority of his presidency Bill Clinton had a Republican controlled Congress.
Posted by: joel | Oct 23, 2008 9:39:45 AM
Why can’t you give credit to any democrat? For 6 years of the last 8 we had Republicans in congress. What happened there? I am sure you will say it was the last 2 years under the democrats that blew that.

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Name calling and lying. Don’t we learn not to do that in Kindergarten?
Pick who you like, but have some self-respect and get your facts straight. Then, if you still feel like you have to lie and slander to get your way, others will know that you aren’t simply ignorant but suffering from a severe psychosis.
Its sad to look over the American landscape and see so many “adults” acting like children.

Posted by: Rico | October 23, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

I’m confused. How is hearing other nations leaders talk about getting along with us under a new president a bad thing?
And why do all republicans always say “My friend” before they insult you. Is this supposed to make it OK that you are being a close minded ***. I have traveled the world “My friends” and I can tell you most of you don’t have a clue what the rest of the world is like. Stop hating people and start talking to them.

Posted by: MADMAK | October 23, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Al-Qaeda doesn’t even exist. A gloabal network run from a cave from someone on the run, gimme a break. You watch too much Farce News Network

Posted by: centerbound | October 23, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

The bottom line:
A lot of people don’t want a Black man in the white house.

Posted by: Rico | October 23, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Terrorists are voting for Obama….OBVIOUSLY!!! he’s already got TERRORISTS FRIENDS!!! plus he’s a COWARD…wants to get out of Iraq and Terrorists want us out of Iraq! posted by jack
Jack, then explain McCain’s hiring of his CURRENT cabinet transition manager, William Timmons? I am sure you dont know who he is since you dont seem to know your facts….but Timmons is a guy who lobbied for Saddam Hussein!!!! And for the last time, Obama is NOT a Muslim. Is your name John McCain or Joe Red Neck because it sure sounds like it. Get a clue!

Posted by: fed up | October 23, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

For all of you that really think you know anything about anything. When voting for Obama you need to be careful of what you wish for. I would think that pictures are worth more then the MSM opinions. When you see a man running for the highest office in our country and won’t put his hand over his heart when our national athem is played and also reads books for light reads about the down fall of the american society, which are all islamic views. Again I say you need to be careful for what you wish for.

Posted by: Bear | October 23, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

That Haafid posting sounds like an American political intrigue, and I wonder why we are wasting time on that. We know that neither McCain nor Obama, elected as a president, will, or can, knowingly do anything to please the terrorists. By the way, Qaddafi is now one of the good guys. He has paid up!
Muhammad

Posted by: Muhammad Zafrullah | October 23, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Well, I guess thanks to this Muhammad Haafid guy, the terrorist vote wouldn’t go *quite* unanimously to Obama.

Posted by: Ted | October 23, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Yes, a lot of people don’t want a black man in the White House. A lot of people don’t want an old man in the White House, or a hockey mom in the White House. Maybe we should all put blindfolds on and concentrate on which candidate wants to open communications and lead nations to peace.

Posted by: Desi | October 23, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Posted by: seah5 | Oct 23, 2008 9:47:29 AM
If you are going to post nonsense like that please find a reputable source. Not a political discussion forum.

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Obama’s win for the presidency may not exactly be in the bag, but McCain’s campaign certainly looks and feels like a ship taking on large amounts of water with all pumps failing. The implosion is analogous to the foibles of the republican brand in the last couple years. Scandal after scandal, an incompetent at the helm, obfuscation and double-talk these are a few of republicans favorite things.

Posted by: sharkcellar | October 23, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Posted by: Jwench | October 23, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Larry, tell me why Colin Powell would back a terrorist? (I expect you’ll leave race out of it as you mentioned).

Posted by: Desi | October 23, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

the US is lost with BO as president… But at least will we get rid of affirmative action

Posted by: jame | October 23, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Hold on a sec. So, one guy makes these detestable remarks and puts the McCain campaign on their heels. So, their way of handling it is to say, “No no no, Obama is Al-Qaeda’s choice. And they are even praying for him. Who knows, some of them may be even helping him to win the presidency.”
Now that is just pathetic!

Posted by: Josh Woods | October 23, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Face it. John McCain is too old, and too anxious to attack/kill/fight whatever gets in his way.
Sarah Palin is not qualified to be POTUS underscored by the only words (rally the troops) that come out of her mouth as she has proven she can’t be left alone to talk to the citizens off script.
The McCain/Palin campaign is shameful. Show me the integrity, show me more than words that say “I have a plan”.
How can the citizens of our country be comfortable with a candidate that could assume the presidency that can’t even face/withstand answering questions?
I don’t get it. I don’t get how Republican supporters really think that the McCain ticket is solid, sound and sensible. McCain may have his silver haired military experience but he reminds me of a grandfather who once was a strong common sense man who emanated confidence during his prime, but now has faded into a frailer version unable to withstand and project the man he was was.

Posted by: mdj | October 23, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

“More importantly, Woolsey said, McCain as one of the original proponents of the surge strategy in Iraq has been responsible for crippling Al Qaeda.”
There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq before the war, this is not the same Al Qaeda that attacked us on 9-11. This was an anti-American group in Iraq taking on the name.

Posted by: Stephen | October 23, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Desperation is truly in the air in Republican circles this year. It’s shaping up to be the second landslide election in a row for Democrats (not that they deserve it). And still to this day the GOP clings to the strawmen that worked so well for them in 02 and 04, oblivious to the fact that people are sick of their tactics. For their years of calling other Americans who disagreed with their tactics traitors, for stating that their opponents wanted to “offer aid and comfort to the terrorists”, may the Republican Party be cast into the political wilderness for decades to come.

Posted by: Tim B | October 23, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Look, I am a PhD student in Int’l Relations. From what I know of Islamic Exremism, and I think it’s quite a lot, Jihadists welcome death and seek the “exhaustion” of the US. McCain, more so than Obama, is committed to “Victory”. This is exactly what these militants want. Al Qaeda, quite frankly, fears two things. First, a strong America with dedicated allies. Let’s be honest, our NATO counterparts are more willing to follow Senator Obama. Second, they do not want a US that is looking to leave the region. Withdrawing weakens their cause. It makes it more difficult to garner funds and recruit. Simply said, Obama is the candidate least dedicated to destroying the region. As such, he is the candidate most feared by al Qaeda. It sounds counterintuitive but it’s true. Nevertheless, this is NOT intended to convert McCain supporters to Obama’s side. It is merely a statement of fact. READ the 1% Doctrine written by former NSA and CIA Analysts.

Posted by: Frank | October 23, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Posted by: Frank | Oct 23, 2008 10:14:50 AM
An educated perspective, thank you for posting Frank.

Posted by: mdj | October 23, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

this is a question I’d like to hear explained too.
["Larry, tell me why Colin Powell would back a terrorist? (I expect you'll leave race out of it as you mentioned)."
Posted by: Desi | Oct 23, 2008 10:01:27 AM]
I’d like to see ONE shred of evidence that Obama is a terrorist. Not an association, not an opinion….EVIDENCE.

Posted by: mdj | October 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

disinformation is the new information

Posted by: sean truitt | October 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

QUOTES VOTERS LOVE:
JOE BIDEN QUOTE: “Obama is not ready to be President”.
HILLARY CLINTON, QUOTE: “Obama lacks all the skills needed for the most demanding job on earth and he is woefully lacking in experience”.
JESSE JACKSON, QUOTE: “I would like to cut Obama’s *** off.”
You got to love Jesse as he can say it all in just a few words.

Posted by: ltk01 | October 23, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

This has got to be the dumbest, most tortured spin on a non-issue that has yet come forth in Obama’s mainstream media.

Posted by: C Nelson | October 23, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

God I love seeing the wacko right wing jerks panicking, throwing every despicable thing at Obama that their deranged minds can think of. Terrorist! Black! Liberal! Elitist! Un-American! Funny how it all bounces back and makes them look like ugly losers.
Seems like only yesterday we were subjected to the sight of Newts giant empty head, the Hammer’s slimeball tactics, W’s cocky flight suit prancing. Now they will have some time to lurk in Airport restrooms, assuming the “wide stance” that they favor.

Posted by: D Miner | October 23, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

I m from Iran. in Iran people prefer Obama because we hate the war . we like to have good relation with US.
but our goverment prefer McCain . they really menace to Obama . Obama is a frank man .Ahmadinejad knows Bush or McCain never talk to him so he propose for conversation . but it is only a tactical game .if the Obama win , it will be the end of Islamic repulic of Iran.

Posted by: Sina | October 23, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Al qaeda has an intent and purpose for every statement they make. If you remember, they didn’t want Bush to win in the last election and put out a statement just before the election. Their remarks caused undecided voters to vote for Bush. Have you ever heard of reverse psychology? Well, that’s al qaeda’s ploy right now! They want Barack Obama to win the election.

Posted by: disgustedvoter | October 23, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

The only country in the world where someone like bush or john mccain could be president is the united states of america. The whole world can see it, why cant americans? Bush screwed up the world economy and invaded a country that never had weapons of mass destruction, John McCain supported that ignorant decision. Stop living in a bubble and vote Obama.
Enough said.
Obama / Biden ’08

Posted by: westindian | October 23, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Al Qaedas’s wants McCain to be president is just plain bull!. They want the American people to believe this because they think it will give Obama a better chance to defeat McCain. It is just a ploy, Terrorists will fear McCain and know he will be a strong defender of America, Israel and it’s interests.
Come on be real you liberals. Obama is afraid to go on Sean Hannity’s show,let alone him facing real live threats to our country and he has to defend us. Give me a break. Obama is a liberal whimp and Biden was right, we will be tested by our enemies if he is President. You think the economy is bad now, wait to see what happens when a weak President Obama takes office. God help us!.

Posted by: Pee Vee, Long Island | October 23, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Ahmadinejad is a big lair .he don’t really want talk to US . of course he prefer McCain. also when US army is in Iraq , Israel can not attack Iran because Israel should pass through Iraq sky .actually at this time US army protect Iran from Israel attack.
also US army protect Iran from Taliban and Al Qaeda .don’t forget Taliban and Al Qaeda is real enemy for Iran.
TEHRAN (Reuters) – Iran will refuse any request by U.S.-based non-governmental organization American-Iranian Council (AIC) to open an office in the Islamic Republic, the interior minister said in comments published on Wednesday.
In a rare move, the United States this month said the U.S. Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Asset Control had granted permission to New Jersey-based AIC to operate in Iran.

Posted by: Sina | October 23, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Do we really want to give this much deference to terrorists on which candidate they support?
All that matters is who Americans support in this election. That’s what the McCain campaign should be saying if they truly are the ones who put “Country First”.

Posted by: cincyr | October 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Mccain is good for buisness.

Posted by: Bank of Paskistan | October 23, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

TO: Sue,
You are again drinking the kool-aid…
The two most accurate and respected polls in America (and the ones that have been DEAD NUT RIGHT in the las 8 Election cycles) are I.B.D. & A.P.
Both HAVE IT DEAD EVEN !!!
IBD SHOWS McCAIN UP IN FL AND OH also!
So enjoy the kool-aid, I like the grape best myself.

Posted by: Mark Garnett | October 23, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Regarding McCain and Palin
Let’s look at the educational background of our two options:
Obama:Occidental College (Los Angeles) – 2 years studying Politics and Public Policy. Columbia University (New York) – B.A. Political Science with a specialization in International Relations. Harvard Law School – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna #### Laude, and also where he became the first African-American editor, of the Harvard Law Review. GPA = 3.89
Biden: University of Delaware – B.A. in History and a B.A. in Political Science.Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.) GPA = 3.0
McCain:United States Naval Academy – Class rank 894 of 899.!!!!!! GPA = 2.53
Palin:Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester.North Idaho College – 2 semesters – General Studies.University of Idaho – 2 semesters – Journalism.Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester.University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism. GPA = 1.89!!!! 1.89 thats about as low as you can go without failing. – took 4 schools to do it…
John and Sarah both have the dubious distinction of being censured – McCain by the US Senate and Palin the Alaksa Senate for bad judgement – the only president and vp EVER in history to have that “qualification”!!
Add low grade points, minimal schooling, throw in some bad judgment and lies and you McCain supporters – should you win – are going to get the rudest awakening of your lives – YOU BETCHA!! – You just elected certifiably dumb, deceitful, slandering, hypocritical crooks to run our country.

Posted by: Johnnyr51 | October 23, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

McCain is the scariest dude since Goldwater to run for president. Angry little old guy still stunted from hanging with the enemy for 5 years (how do you survive in POW camp for 5 years – a little kiss butt maybe?) Now he’s a bag of wind and lies and with a trigger finger so jumpy, so hot, this man and his little Barbie Saks Fifth Ave. sidekick who can see Russia from her doorstep when “Putin sends his bombers over” will wield a mighty big stick and talk mighty little like his “hero” TR and get us all killed in the process. Because there are two things McCain/Palin are not: diplomats or Christians. They know one thing – they like to kill their enemies and make their ignorant Joe Plumber base feel mean and righteous – whether the Bible says “Blessed are the peacemakers” and “thou shalt not kill” or not. Screw the bible!! McCain wants to bomb and scare the crap out of the enemy!!!! God help us all. The devil and his bride are trying to finish W.’s legacy once and for all and bring my children’s world to ruin. AlQueda needs a lunatic American president to keep America focused on war and not prosperity and McCain/Palin are surely their men.

Posted by: Johnnyr51 | October 23, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Posted by: MADMAK | October 23, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Al Queda would want McCain/Palin to win. That would finish this country off for good and they wouldn’t have to lift a finger.

Posted by: Lori | October 23, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

“LOL. Al Qaeda doesn’t know what they want. Assuming “they” is even referring to something resembling an organized group. They are in shambles. Like they have some master plan that is working out. Hilarious. Reminds me of the Taliban guy saying that they will defeat the American invaders. Hahaha. This is the same group that thought the 9/11 attack would scare the fat, lazy Americans out of the middle east. Yeah I guess that master plan didn’t work out so well, eh?”
Dear Joe Mama,
9/11 wasn’t to scare America out of the middle east, it was to bring America in and destroy our economy. Bush and McCain play right into “some master plan”.

Posted by: yellowbird | October 23, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

I really don’t understand how any “christian” can vote for Obama…. It is just totally incompatible. Well I guess if you feel killing millions of innocent lives which God produced on a yearly basis is ok, feel that God would be happy with unnatural unions between same sexes rather than the way He put one man with one woman, or think God would be jumping with glee at the thought of throwing Him out of every school or government and spiraling society down into the depths of hell….. well then I stand corrected, I guess you could vote for Obama!

Posted by: Highly Concerned Christian | October 23, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

It really wasn’t so much the surge strategy that made progress, it was technology and covert operations that had less to do with numbers of soldiers. McCain is taking credit for something that had more to do with certain technologies entering the scene at the same time. I definitely believe that the McCain reputation and Palin’s Christian God war views fuels terrorism. Powell said it best to also concentrate on non-military action — education, etc. to undermine the beacon of terrorism for youth in these regions.

Posted by: akamai | October 23, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

LOL. Ok, so their argument is that the endorsements of sundry unsavory foreigners for Obama means they really support Obama from their hearts, but on the other hand when Al Qaeda endorses McCain, they are just using reverse psychology and really prefer Obama.
Yeah, that’s some twisted logic masquerading as “straight talk”. No wonder moderate republicans are leaving the party in droves. No thinking person can look at McCain’s lies and half-truths and imagine he’d make a good president.

Posted by: PennyP | October 23, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

John McCain and Sarah Palin your campaigning is indecent. Just read the blogs to see how you’ve created undo fear in people. McCain; you said it yourself, Obama is a good man. In the same breath you’ve instilled fear by using untruthful incriminations. These poor souls don’t get it that you’re just trying to get votes and don’t believe it yourself.

Posted by: akamai | October 23, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Wow this is a really intense discussion. Please allow me to apply my own input into this discussion. Forgive me for not citing which one of you said which of these statements I plan to respond to but you know which statements belong to you.
“Obama is afraid to go on Sean Hannity’s show.”
OK so when is Sarah going to go on the Rachel Maddow show. Or for that matter when is John going to be on Hardball(especially after his vial attacks on Keith) I suppose we won’t be seeing either of these two scenarios anytime soon.
“This has got to be the dumbest, most tortured spin on a non-issue that has yet come forth in Obama’s mainstream media. Every literate person knows that both Osama bin Laden and Hamas have expressed support for Obama’s election.”
I sort of remember a clip on the news a few months ago where Bin Laden was stating that if we elected Obama there was sure to be another attack on US soil.
“The bible says homosexuality is an abomination to God. Last I checked, abortion stops a beating heart. Obama supports same sex marriage and is pro-abortion. THIS FITS CHRISTIANITY AND WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS?? I hope you vote with your morals before your wallet.”
Wow!! I sort of recall Obama stating in the third debate that he opposes same sex marriage but it should not be the governments place to determine who gets married and who doesn’t. He did say however that if a person is sick in the hospital their loved ones (gay or not) should be allowed to visit them. (I suppose that is a violation of God’s laws too). I also recall him stating he was opposed to late term abortions, but I want to know when it became my responsibility to prevent another person’s sin. As a sinner myself I am hardly qualified to tell someone else not to sin ( For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God). If that verse doesn’t work for you then how about “those who are without sin let him cast the first stone” or “ How can you tell your brother he has a splinter in his eye when you have a beam in yours, Look to thine own eye first.” No!!! how about “my righteousness is as filthy rags”. Since you are such a good Christian I know you remember one of those right. OH, By the way could you please remind me which verse the word Homosexual is even used I think I may me a little rusty on that one. But I do remember other parts really well like Proverbs Chapter 6 verse 2 “These six things doth the lord hate the most yea seven are an abomination unto him, A proud heart( and hears my favorite part) A LYING TONGUE ( I will spare you the rest ) I suppose that Opposing the bridge to nowhere after you were for it is honesty, or the teleprompter stopped working or the last 30min was amazing when no one else saw the flaw. Here are a few more parts I remember though “Thou shalt not commit adultery”. Or I Cor. chapter 7 “If you are bound to a wife seek not to be loosed” I suppose that means it was perfectly acceptable for John to cheat on his wife and then leave here for Cindy. And I guess it is ok to brag to your children about almost marrying a stripper. Perhaps before you go pointing out someone else’s religious flaws you should look at the flaws of the person you are defending. After all even a fool is considered wise if he holdeth his tongue.

Posted by: MasterYodaFreak | October 23, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

wow i can’t believe how divided this electon has made this country..
either way.. Obama or McCain.. whoever gets in, they will have a lot of work to do and a lot to live up to..
I hope that all americans will be able to put differences aside and attempt to correct this country’s problems.
I swear, just to be right some ppl are trying to fight our own citizens.. insane!
[for the record: OBAMA FTW!]

Posted by: no.fear.mongers.here | October 23, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

What a crock. Just to make my viewpoint clear; I don’t like either candidate but I’ve had my fill of news reporting bias. Just put out the facts and back them up with links so I can read the PRIMARY source…no offence but I don’t want your slanted opinion..the reporter.

Posted by: JoePilot | October 23, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

MasterYodaFreak, your opinions are well taken. My rant is actually meant for Jake Tapper, the reporter and author of the article. Sorry for the confusion, again they were not meant for you. A reporter of this caliber should do a better job of documenting a source.

Posted by: JoePilot | October 23, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Pelosi, Reed, Frank, Dodd, Schumer have to go!!!
I will not help the economy if Obama is elected president. I will only buy gas and groceries. Pelosi, Reed, Frank, Dodd, Schumer, and Obama really feel our pain. Who do they think they are, they are the rich not middle class. I blame them for the failure of the stock market. How soon the American people forget, remember how mad we were when they passed the bail out bill..well here is our chance to answer how we felt. Get rid of the bums!!!

Posted by: Valley Queen | October 23, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

McCain, Rove, Bachmann, Hayes, Palin have to go!!!
I will not help the economy if McCain is elected president. I will only buy gas and groceries. McCain, Rove, Hayes, Bachmann, and Palin really feel our pain. Who do they think they are, they are the rich not middle class. I blame them for the failure of the stock market. How soon the American people forget, remember how mad we were when they passed the bail out bill..well here is our chance to answer how we felt. Get rid of the bums!!!

Posted by: alex | October 23, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Let’s see….extreme Islamic terrorists………John Sydney McCain or Barack Hussein Obama…….hmmmmmm
I’ll have to give that some thought….

Posted by: equalityrpt | October 23, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

the war in Iraq has created more terrorists than Bin Laden could have ever dreamed of, and has seeded enough hatred for generations to come.
I think I know who Al Qaeda want here. isnt it obvious?

Posted by: Goon | October 31, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

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