‘Who Is the Real Barack Obama?’ Someone Has an Answer
At the Atlantic, Marc Ambinder says that when McCain asks the above question, someone in the audience yells "terrorist!"
In Estero, Florida, today, Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott, speaking before Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin at a rally, said the world had three types of people: "the ones who make things happen, the ones who watch what happens and the ones who wonder what happened. Let’s leave Barack Hussein Obama wondering what happened."
The use of Obama’s middle name struck some critics as an attempt to paint him as "other," as "foreign," though the sheriff says he was just using the man’s full name, no big deal.
(Why didn’t he use Palin’s middle name? He didn’t know it. FYI, it’s Louise.)
Palin campaign spokesperson Tracey Schmitt said in response, “We do not condone this inappropriate rhetoric which distracts from the real questions of judgment, character, and experience that voters will base their decisions on this November.”
Jump ball for discussion purposes: Are these random events it’s unfair to blame on the McCain-Palin campaign, or does the new tone of the McCain-Palin campaign encourage these types of statements?
Discuss.
Politely, please.
- jpt
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McCain’s camp knows what it’s doing: fanning the flames of hatred and fear. They may not hold responsibility for the words of these people, but they are stoking these hatreds. If they keep up the Mussolini-like, pure personal demonisation speeches, then we’ll see some people being really riled up in a very bad way.
Posted by: mos | October 6, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
As to the “terrorist” shout-out, I’ll look to the words of Sir Thomas More (as written by Robert Bolt) to interpret McCain’s silence:
“Not so. Not so, Master Secretary. The maxim is ‘Qui tacet consentiret’: the maxim of the law is “Silence gives consent”. If therefore you wish to construe what my silence betokened, you must construe that I consented, not that I denied.”
Posted by: Merle | October 6, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Are we throwing the race card again? Get this straight…don’t blame others if Obama’s parents named him “hussein”. That is his name. Deal with it. Sorry if it is considered an insult, but blame his parents.
How many terrorists have you met in your lifetime? any terrorists launch your job or celebrate your promotion at their homes recently? So, if you can exercise judgment to avoid known murderous terrorists, why can’t we expect the same of Obama?
Not just Ayers. There is video documenting Obama’s involvement with Kenyan prez candidate Odinga, who, if elected, would have been against US policies against terrorism. Why is the media not paying attention to this?
All Americans should be furious and offended.
In his short and meager career, Obama has managed to have more dangerous associations than the entire congress combined. All wonderful canddiate for president, and this is the best the Dem party could come up with?
READ THE FACTS. Obama is dangerous. YOu can bring up Keating or Troopergate or other silly lies about mccain or Palin, but the facts show that Obama is not only a dangerous corrupt piece of trash, but has the audacity to lie to the American people about it.
Fight for America. mcCain is fighting for you, why won’t you fight with him?
Posted by: liberati | October 6, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
No reaction from McCain- Just like when someone referred to Hillary as the ***** and he laughed.
Classy guy.
Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
The best way to stop these tactics is to vote. Vote to stop a regime like this from taking power and destroying this country further.
Posted by: jt1 | October 6, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Pure desperation by the Mccain campaign.
It really is sad to see an real life American hero degrade himself and wallowing in the mud because he is losing the election on ideas.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 6, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
this is sort of like obama allowing his “supporters” and minions to label Bill Clinton as a racist and Hillary as disrespectful of Martin Luther King Jr., while not condemning or even stating that such characterizations are untruthful
Posted by: chris | October 6, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Yes, liberati we should be offended:
This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign.
John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization.
Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
mccain does not deserve our voter either.
Posted by: chris | October 6, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Fanning the flames of hatred and fear huh? I guess they learned that from the “peaceful” demonstrators at the RNC. Because the left is the tolerant party. Unless you believe in God, pro-life, and have conservative values. As long as you don’t go with those views, they’ll tolerate you. I mean for Pete’s sake, a restaurant in San Fran stopped serving a wine because it was named Palin. Yeah, no heat or fear in that logic. Fantastic.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
just a slight correction: mccain does not deserve our VOTES or our VOTERS either. WriteHillaryIn.com
Posted by: chris | October 6, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
CLEARWATER — Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn’t permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, “Can I help you?” and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn’t allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday.
– Times staff writer Eileen Schulte
Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Finally McCain is running a presidential campaign. Everything he said about Obama is fair game. He should have been doing this last month.
Jack, I think you are fair. Can you please set the record straight regarding the sex education bill in the Illinois Senate? I read an article by Byron York in the National Review that McCain’s ad was accurate and in fact the Obama campaign was the one “lying”.
Posted by: alb | October 6, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
THATS WHAT WE KNOW AND WANT ANGRY OLD GUY thats McCainn , getting more and more DESPERATE.
We know the REAL McCain LUV voting with bush 90%+ of the time.. and continue to carry out the same ole policies.
AND THAT McCAIN WE DONT WANT.
BRING ON THE NEW GUY WHO HASN’T BEEN LONG IN WASHINTON LONG ENOUGH TO GET CORRUPT, AND HAVE NEW POLICIES TO MOVE US INTO THE 21ST CENTURY.
Obama/ biden 08
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Posted by: mike | October 6, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Of course the McCain/Palin campaign, by it’s new character attacks, is encouraging these things. I saw a Sean Hannity special last night on Obama and his questionable associations (focusing on Wright, Phleger and one other Arab man whose name eludes me at the moment) and they all but suggested he might be a member of Al Qaida in secret.
The fact is, McCain has shown he wants to win no matter what so I think privately they are grateful for this sort of smear. Shame on McCain.
Posted by: Max | October 6, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
desperation doesn’t mean it ‘ain’t so’… Obama is a mystery man. Tell me again how he got to where he is today.
Posted by: msa123 | October 6, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
The GOP does not want the race this year. The country is in total chaos, the country is broke, the country is paying for a military occupation of a foreign country and we have a terrorist as a possible president. There is no money to spend on ‘pet’ projects from Hussein or his racist wife.
Who would want to take the job of president? What good will this president do? Noting!!! There is no money…
Posted by: Evelyn | October 6, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
I believe this is type of speech is causing anger among people. He’s trying to incite a riot. This is race baiting although racial names aren’t used but to imply that Obama was friends with a terriorist is racially tinged. The world is watching and I believe John McCain is making a big mistake. If something happens to Obama because of this type of rhetoric, McCain and the Republicans will have a backlash like never before. This is not healthy for America at a time like this.
Posted by: LF | October 6, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
The only terrorists I know are Bush and Cheney.
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Hey TJ,
Gallup: Obama +8
Rasmussen: Obama +8
Two new polls in VA: Obama +10
So get yourself into full froth, because your side is losing and losing badly.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 6, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
When the Campaign does nothing to correct the statements on the spot it amounts to Condoning and encouraging. McCain Clearly heard the terrorist comment from his supporter and he should have stopped and corrected that individual then and there.
His speech was designed to place doubts about Obama and his intentions, and his campaign is focused on establishing those doubts.
McCain is a dishonorable cowered.
Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Where are you people getting Obama is throwing out the race card from this story. The story is about McCain and his sleazy tactics.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
What is your real Economy solution?? .
do we have a answer john McANGRY.
very sad to see the old guy grasping at straws as his time draw to a end .
the 30 years average career keating 5 corrupt senator will be ship off.
cant say it was nice knowing you.
Posted by: cyberfoam | October 6, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
They sow the wind, so shall they reap the whirlwind.
McCain: all hate, all fear, all the time.
Posted by: Tungsten | October 6, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
COME ON GUYS YOU LEAVE JOHN MCSAME ALONE HE IS WITH ME
sincerly.
THE TITANIC.
Posted by: ben | October 6, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
If terrorism is, as they say, about spreading fear, anxiety and confusion on a large scale (the term “terrorism” comes from Latin terrere, “to frighten”), we might conclude that the McCain campaign is embracing the terrorist handbook in the final month of their campaign.
Shame on them.
Posted by: margaret | October 6, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
and what’s more:
He who sows iniquity will reap vanity, and the rod of his fury will perish.
Proverbs 22:8
Posted by: Tungsten | October 6, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Whistling…
BREAKING UPDATE ON FEDERAL LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST OBAMA IN PENNSYLVANIA
BERG V OBAMA, DNC, ET AL.
October 6, 2008
Attorneys for Barack Obama and the DNC filed a motion asking the court for a protective order, essentially asking that the judge rule on their motion to dismiss for lack of standing before ruling on Berg’s motion for expedited discovery.
Bear with me, here. Geez, I wish I could just do this for a full-time job — it would be so much easier without all this other stuff (work, school, etc.) in the way!
Keep checking back. Due to the amount of information, I may split this up into two separate posts. We’ll see.
– Jeff
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Update:
October 6, 2008
4:45 p.m. — Obama, DNC File Motion for Protective Order
I’ll pretty it up and explain things a little bit better later on this evening, but here’s what’s going on, so far and in brief:
As I was talking with one of my contacts at the courthouse about this motion, my phone rings and it is Philip Berg. He’s fired up. Apparently, he had just been contacted by John LaVelle, attorney for Barack Obama and the DNC, and asked whether he would “put off discovery until Judge Surrick ruled on the motion to dismiss.”
Until I have time to get into this more specifically, here’s the rub:
Basically, the law states that Judge Surrick can order discovery even in the face of a pending dispositive motion such as the motion to dismiss filed on September 24 by Obama and the DNC. In other words, he can order full discovery, limited discovery, or none at all before ruling on the dismissal. The attorneys for Obama and the DNC, however, just filed a motion asking for a protective order stopping “all discovery in this action pending the Court’s decision on defendant’s motion to dismiss the action for lack of subject matter jurisdiction and for failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted.”
Just like with the amended complaint, an attorney cannot simply file a protective order but must file a motion for one, essentially asking the court to issue one. Make sense so far? That’s what this is — defense attorney John LaVelle filed such a motion this afternoon, a motion asking the judge to issue a protective order which would allow for a ruling to come down on the motion to dismiss before the commencement of any discovery.
Obviously the first reaction is “what do they have to hide?” or something along those lines. Rule 26(c) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure provides authorization to the court for just such a matter, ostensibly to protect one of the parties from embarrassment or oppression or the like. I’m sure there’s some case law on it as well. Still, even knowing the rules, I will admit that my first reaction was one of suspicion.
As for Philip Berg, while he and I will chat later on, here’s a snippet of what he had to say in our brief conversation:
“He’s asking to delay discovery and, Jeff, I’m obviously going to oppose it, ” he said. “This isn’t right. This just isn’t right. By tomorrow, we’ll have a response and put out a press release. The American people should hear about this and, if they do, they should go nuts. It’s time to put up or shut up.”
Posted by: DNC Party Crasher | October 6, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
McAngry?
I am anxiously awaiting the debate tomorrow night to see who’s angry when all is said and done.
I have a feeling that many topics Obama does not prefer to talk about will be brought forward, and he has a habit of getting annoyed, angry and frustrated when anyone steps on his toes.
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Hussein has not thrown Wright under the bus/train. He is simply on hold until Hussein gets the title of president. When Hussein is moving in the front door, Wright, Farrakahn and Ayers will be sneaking in the back.
No respect for the American people or way of life. After all, Hussein wants to take from the ‘rich’ and give to the ‘poor.’ What is his definition of ‘rich’….middle class.
It’s a sad year for American politics.
Posted by: Evelyn Sealy | October 6, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
The latest Fox News/Rasmussen Reports polling of five battleground states shows Barack Obama has made significant gains in Colorado, Missouri and Florida. In Ohio and Virginia, there was little change from the week before.
All five of these states were won by George W. Bush and the Republicans four years ago. Obama now holds at least a modest edge in four of the five states and is essentially even in Ohio.
Obama now leads by seven points, 52 percent to 45 percent in Florida. A week ago the candidates were tied in the Sunshine State. Two weeks ago, McCain was up five.
In Colorado, Obama now holds a six-point advantage, 51 percent to 45 percent. Last week, Obama had a one-point edge in the state and two weeks ago McCain was narrowly ahead.
In Missouri, it’s Obama 50 percent McCain 47 percent. In mid-September, a Rasmussen Reports poll had found McCain up by five in the Show-Me State.
Obama continues to hold a narrow advantage in Virginia, 50 percent to 48 percent. That’s virtually unchanged from last week. However, last week was the first time Obama had moved ahead in this state that hasn’t voted for a Democrat since 1964.
Ohio is the only state where McCain has any sort of advantage. But a 48 percent to 47 percent lead is meaningless in a poll with a three percentage point margin of sampling error.
Posted by: From FOX | October 6, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Umm do you even have to ask the question? When you don’t have real solutions to real problems you will try to distract with vile attacks. Initially I though they were just being petty but they are being vile. This will backfire so quickly, they wouldn’t know what hit them.
Posted by: Rebecca | October 6, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Tomorrow’s debate will seal McCain’s fate! He and Palin opened a can of worms and Obama opened his can of whoop @##.
Posted by: linda n carolina | October 6, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Who is BHO? An international socialist who is seeking to nationalize the industries in this country….
Posted by: Gina | October 6, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Obviously the “Barack Hussein Obama” is an attempt to make Obama sound scary, but that is nothing new. They have been trying to frame that for many months.
The “terrorist” shouts are a little more disturbing. I hope they are not encouraging that behavior. It is too close to the idea of inciting a mob to violence.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 6, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
“I am anxiously awaiting the debate tomorrow night to see who’s angry when all is said and done”
It will be McCain, went he realizes he traded his dignity for a shot at the Presidency and threw in his lot with the scummiest Republicans around.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 6, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
liberati
The Keating 5 as well as the AK Troopergate are real sport. You are all about make-believe.
There has been one and only one presidential cadidate in US history to surrender to our enemy, guess who?
Those of us who were yanked into that unjust war never forget nor will those who serve in Iraq.
de oppresso liber
Posted by: Mr. Green Jeans | October 6, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
I follow this kind of Campaign Minutiae with amusement and don’t place much importance on the sarcasm of “Barack Hussein Obama” … or, for that matter, Democratic sarcasm. But consider this … if McCain’s middle-name were Adolph, tell me that every single Obama Campaign event speaker/host over the past eighteen months would NEVER say it. It doesn’t pass the laugh test.
Posted by: costamesabob | October 6, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
DNC Party Crasher:
Yes, if Obama has nothing to hide, why doesn’t he just up and produce his REAL birth CERTIFCATE?
Why goes through all the courtroom antics putting off the inevitable?
What does Obama think, that if he puts this off until after the election and he does happen to win, that they won’t be able to disqualify him later?
Ineligible to hold office is still ineligible to hold office, before or after an election.
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
MSA123, Very well said!! Thanks
Posted by: Jo | October 6, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
One thing for sure. This will just push independent voters towards Obama.
He is losing on economics, but switching his tune to this neanderthal level is maybe his biggest mistake.
My predictions.. In few days his rating will drop even harder.
Posted by: CLabs | October 6, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
I’m sure they were referring to Bill Ayers and that’s true — he is and was a terrorist.
And an unrepentant one! No problem for Obama!
Posted by: Jo | October 6, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
DNC Party Crasher, it the polls that made McCain decide to give up on Michigan.
Today’s new polls, national and states, might inspire him to give it ALL up.
He’s going to lose in a landslide.
Posted by: From FOX | October 6, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Obama doesn’t pass the mainstream smell test
As Mark Levin notes below, Obama presents himself as mainstream. I suspect that almost every Cornerite could make each of the following statements:
- My career was not launched with the assistance of an unrepentant terrorist.
- My pastor has never said “God damn America.”
- I don’t think our troops are “just air-raiding villages and killing civilians.”
- My spouse doesn’t think America is a “downright mean country.”
- I’ve never sat on a board with an unrepentant terrorist.
- I’ve never directed millions of dollars to radical organizations.
- I’ve never opposed requiring medical care for babies who are born alive.
- I bought my home without assistance from a convicted felon.
- I’ve never taken my kids to a church whose pastor thinks AIDS was created by the government.
If Obama’s mainstream, most Americans are extremists.
for all those who missed it live here
- My career was not launched with the assistance of an unrepentant terrorist.
- My pastor has never said “God damn America.”
- I don’t think our troops are “just air-raiding villages and killing civilians.”
- My spouse doesn’t think America is a “downright mean country.”
- I’ve never sat on a board with an unrepentant terrorist.
- I’ve never directed millions of dollars to radical organizations.
- I’ve never opposed requiring medical care for babies who are born alive.
- I bought my home without assistance from a convicted felon.
- I’ve never taken my kids to a church whose pastor thinks AIDS was created by the government.
If Obama’s mainstream, most Americans are extremists.
Posted by: HP Boston | October 6, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Anybody who is using fear and war to try to win an office is a terrorist. WBush, Cheney, McCain and Palin are the real terrorists, because the are terrorising the American people. Any one who has protected deregulation, anybody who has supported criminal bankers against American people is a terrorist, McCain is one of them: Keating 5 and the new collapse of Wall Street. Palin has a low IQ and McCain has almost no IQ, if Palin thinks that the VP is a competitition ofr Miss Alaska, wake-up and smell the …Sarah and McCain are losers.
Posted by: BKMC | October 6, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
What’s more disturbing than someone shouting “terrorist” is a presidential candidate who hangs around with one.
Now that’s beyond disturbing.
Posted by: Jo | October 6, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Jo
Do you know what the definition of terrorism is? Although I condemn Ayers’ actions, as does Obama, I’m not sure you can call it “terrorism” if innocent people were not targeted.
Posted by: jock59801 | October 6, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
SandyB,
If you’re pinning your hopes for a McCain win to a nut job’s lawsuit.
Well you’re much dumber than I thought you were.
Posted by: Ryan C | October 6, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Merle,
By your argument, you are saying that since Obama sat passively and silently by in that hate filled church for 20 years he was giving concent to what Wright was saying that whole time – correct? I appreciate that from you.
It’s not fanning flames of fear to point out the BO has spent his entire adult life in the company of radicals. Obama has a world view that has been warped by the tutalige of the marxist professors he sought out in college – by his 20 year relationship with Jeremiah Wright and his choice to associate with a man he knew to be a domestic terrorist.
Posted by: oldspice | October 6, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
jock 59801:
They interviewed one of those innocent people targets you refer to on the Hannity report last night.
Just a regular guy in a regular neighborhood whose neighbor happened to notice the bomb underneath their car, and unfortunately nothing happened.
Posted by: SandyB | October 6, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I believe Kerry was up just as Obama is now in the polls in 2004.
How did that turn out?
Lol.
Posted by: Jo | October 6, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I am very sad to witness in 2008 the kind of racism that I thought would be eliminated when I was a teen in 1965.This presidential election has brought to light how far we have come in terms of race relations, however, it has also shown that we have miles to go. When will the ‘faith community’ stand up together against racism in all of its ugly forms???
Posted by: ccb | October 6, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
It doesn’t matter if their messiah stood on a stage tomorrow and said he’s going to make America a socialist country (sigh!) and cut our defense spending to 100K a year .. they’d still whoop it up for him! It’s the kool-aid people .. I hope you enjoy CHANGE – what’s left in your pocket if this clown wins!! The thing I’ll give him is this .. he’s smart and he knows EXACTLY that!
Posted by: Marcus | October 6, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Obama outright lied to the American people
about his ties to Ayers. A BIG , FAT, HEINOUS LIE.
Obama has tried to deceive the American public.
McCain is just trying to get the truth out.
Shame on Obama for trying to deceive and shame on the MSM for letting him get away with it .
I am disgusted with Obama and the media.
I am a Democrat and McCain has my vote.
Posted by: Michelle | October 6, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Jump ball for discussion purposes: Are these random events it’s unfair to blame on the McCain-Palin campaign, or does the new tone of the McCain-Palin campaign encourage these types of statements?
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um, duh? enciting this kind of “us vs. them” mentality also contributes to domestic violence.
mccain / palin are fanning flames… it’s all they’ve got
Posted by: sp | October 6, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
msa123 says of the Obama supporters ” they are following a man who delivers good speeches. No accomplishments”
__________________________________________________
Are you referring to the 820 Bills Obama sponsored in the Illinois State Legislature? He was so impactful the Illinois Times named him “Head of the Class” for his legislative abundance. OR
are you referring to the 427 Bills he has sponsored as a US Senator OR
are you referring to the 152 Bills he authored as a US Senator? OR
are you referring to the fact he sent a detailed letter two years ago to Secretary Paulson outlining his concerns about the mortgage crisis and its impact it can have on Wall Street.
Posted by: Paige | October 6, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
McCain is spineless. Talks about his straight Talk Express, but doesn’t have the courage of his convictions.
Spineless coward!
Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Bill Ayers is a terrorist and Obama is a friend of his.
There Obama is friends with a terrorist.
It’s pretty simple.
And it’s very disgusting.
Posted by: Jo | October 6, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Last i check people problems at the kitchen table IN losing their JOBS and HOMES have NOTHING to do with With REv WRIGHT, REV WRONG, bill ayers or whoever they claim he say hello to.
Obama/Biden .my kitchen table and purse matters.
Posted by: clair | October 6, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Jo’s got it right – “What’s more disturbing than someone shouting “terrorist” is a presidential candidate who hangs around with one.”
A terrorist is one who kills innoncent Americans.
How many innocent Americans have been killed?
By Obama – 0
By Bin Laden – 3,292
By Bush – 4,180 in Iraq as of yesterday
I agree with Jo completely. Nothing scarier than McCan palling around with Bush.
Posted by: Clifton | October 6, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
From the NY Daily News …
McCain’s course correction reflects a growing case of nerves within his high command as the electoral map has shifted significantly in Obama’s favor in the past two weeks. A top McCain strategist told the Daily News, “It’s a dangerous road, but we have no choice. If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.”
Well guess what? We’re talking about it…
Dow plunges to lowest level since 2004.
Wall Street joined a “selloff around the world” today, with the Dow Jones dropping more than 400 points and falling to below 10,000 for the first time in four years. As the AP reports, the “markets have come to the sobering realization that the Bush administration’s $700 billion rescue plan won’t work quickly to unfreeze the credit markets, and that many banks are still having difficulty gaining access to cash.”
Posted by: flop sweat express | October 6, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
I don’t think using middle name is inappropriate.
During primary, I saw lots of places using Hillary’s full name, first, middle, and last name.
Why can’t we use Obama’s middle name? What’s he afraid of?
I think Obama tries to distract people. He said today that economy is bad, we should focus on economy; but he did using keating 5 AD to attack McCain.
Obama says one thing, does another.
Posted by: golfgirlusa | October 6, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Republicans better cut out the extremely negative and outright untrue accusations. There about to lose a big chunk of independents and moderate democrats who sometimes vote their way. Keep it up and you may just lose this election and many more to come in future years!
Posted by: Jason Pearce | October 6, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
SEN. CASEY: LET’S SEE MCCAIN SURVIVE WITHOUT GOV’T HEALTHCARE…
As the two presidential campaigns assault each other over past associations, the Obama campaign took the opportunity on Monday afternoon to cast John McCain’s health care plan as a product of “misguided, reckless ideology.”
Taking to the phones, Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania and former Florida Sen. Bob Graham determinedly laid into McCain for proposing a policy that would result in massive Medicare cuts and higher taxes for some insured.
“Think about this proposal in the context of others, [and] you have to wonder about what John McCain and his running mate’s priorities are for America,” said Casey. “This is not putting your country first, it is putting a radical, misguided, reckless ideology ahead of the interest of families of America.”
Casey went so far as to challenge McCain to “survive without his government provided health insurance,” in order to better understand the struggles of those uncovered by their employers.
“We have a pretty good deal and it is about time the American people have access to the same insurance we do,” he said.
The call is part of a concerted effort by the Obama campaign to shine the political spotlight on health care and Social Security issues in the wake of the current financial crisis. The effort has included a bevy of television and radio ads, blasting McCain for seeking to privatize both these programs. The two Senators were granted an assist from the Wall Street Journal this morning, which reported that the McCain campaign would fund health-care related tax credits (which they believe will help people pay for their own insurance) through massive cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. Douglas Holtz-Eakin, McCain’s senior policy adviser, said savings in those two programs will come from cutting waste and unnecessary spending.
“I think the fact that this health care plan has been examined now and the Wall Street Journal would say in the lead paragraph that it could results in cuts of 1.3 trillion dollars in over ten years is further proof that John McCain’s campaign is being run by conservative ideologues who have no connection to what is going on in people’s daily lives,” said Casey.
Posted by: flop sweat express | October 6, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
CCB,
This isn’t about racism. This is not because Obama is black. You may feel different if you had a loved one in the twin towers as I did. I don’t want these people to get back in our country. Thank God for our military protecting us and trying to make our country safe.
Posted by: Ran | October 6, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
I think Hussein Obama is running 2 campains , the Obamabots campain and the McCain campain.
Posted by: Jambres | October 6, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
As to the “terrorist” shout-out, I’ll look to the words of Sir Thomas More (as written by Robert Bolt) to interpret McCain’s silence:
“Not so. Not so, Master Secretary. The maxim is ‘Qui tacet consentiret’: the maxim of the law is “Silence gives consent”. If therefore you wish to construe what my silence betokened, you must construe that I consented, not that I denied.”
Are we back to “A Man for All Seasons”? McCain and Palin’s events today are stirring up a mob – let’s hope that it doesn’t quell over into mob actions.
Posted by: Sara | October 6, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Bill Ayers is a terrorist and Obama is a friend of his.
There Obama is friends with a terrorist.
It’s pretty simple.
And it’s very disgusting.
Posted by: Jo | Oct 6, 2008 6:54:32 PM
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Are you aware that REPUBLICANS were on that william ayers board GO LOOK IT UP ITS a FACT..thats one thing the McCain camp is conveniently not telling.
BTW.. will McCain camp bring up who tickle Obama chin as a baby.
Posted by: seth | October 6, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I hope I am just exaggerating but I must say I am beginning to sense some real danger in the McCain camp’s increasingly ferocious attempts to smear Obama. It’s the danger of violence or, more precisely, assassination attempts. I am not sure if the McCain folks realize that racism is still alive and well in this country and it’s extremely dangerous to stir up those sentiments. They will be really sorry if they see blood on their hands.
Posted by: chris | October 6, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I would not trust Obama to run the US, but I’d love to see him run the UN. He has all the qualities to be a successful executive of an international organization, which has no interest to defend – or put another way everyone’s interest to defend.
Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | October 6, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Ran,
yes thank god for our military. My nephew just got back from his third tour in Iraq and he and all of his buddies are voting for Obama. Apparently his support of the troops is affecting them. Also McCain’s lack of support – even when he was an officer – to watch his shipmates try to save each other while he watched on closed circuit tv in the breakroom- SHAMEFUL!
Posted by: karen | October 6, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Posted by: Ran | Oct 6, 2008 7:00:33 PM
Not all Muslims are fanatic nor are all Muslims bad people. Besides Obama is not a Muslim.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Fears go both ways. I’m thinking of buying a few guns to defend my family in case of Obama’s loss.
Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | October 6, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
What a disgusting cesspool of hate the McCain Camp has become.
Go away Johnny. Nobody likes you and NO…Barack will not get off your lawn, old man!
Posted by: jefferson | October 6, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Clifton,
Guess how many more Americans would have been killed since 9/11 if we had not stood up for our country….do you think 9/11 was the end of the terrorist situations? Absolutely not. They are planning attacks as we speak. They want Obama in the white House, so they can get into American easier….and kill many more Americans. We are such bad people.
Posted by: Tim | October 6, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Clair,
The character of the person in the Whitehouse should matter. Someone who could sit passively by in that hate filled church for 20 years – someone who would even think about nurturing a decades long relationship with the disgusting likes of William Ayers is unfit to command – it’s just that simple.
Posted by: oldspice | October 6, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
These are despicable statements, and they are not randomly occuring. Instead, the McCain campaign has decided that unless it truly changes the tone of the debate, it will not win. So now, they are willing to do anything – ANYTHING – to close the gap.
Posted by: David | October 6, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Why do people insist on being willfully, hopelessly repeatedly stupid? The Republicans have gotten us into a huge war “by mistake”. They’ve crashed the economy and destroyed the nest eggs we’ve put away for retirement and to put our kids through college. They openly mock us by putting up a VP candidate who decides to answer her own questions during a debate because she can’t answer the ones she’s asked. What the heck is it going to take to shock the braindead out of their fantasy world of denial? All they can do is make fun of someone because he’s black? I wouldn’t mind, but we’ve already shown – when Clinton was President for instance, how much more is possible! The stock market went up 300% on his watch – people could actually retire!
NONE of the crap we are wading through now had to happen folks! That’s what those who know are saying. Just because there are yammering yahoos here braying at the moon and trying to keep us submerged in the cesspool forever, doesn’t mean we have to listen – and bank on it, we won’t!
Posted by: seeifimright | October 6, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
The NYT story about Obama and Bill Ayers the TERRORIST is just a whitewash. You need to read STEVE DIAMOND at his Blog “Global Labor and Politics”. Stve has talked to the Reporters at the NYT many times but they won’t print the REAL STORY. It’s not about Ayers Bombing Policy, it’s about the EDUCATION POLICY that he shares with Obama. Ayers started the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and made Obama the Chairman. Obama would fund Ayers’ education programs. They both believe in “Educational Reparations” to people of color that have been held back by the racist culture in America.
Posted by: Jim Aaron | October 6, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Posted by: oldspice | Oct 6, 2008 7:06:32 PM
Two words
Hagee and Keating.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
They will be really sorry if they see blood on their hands.
Posted by: chris | Oct 6, 2008 7:02:43 PM
==================================
I’m afraid they wouldn’t be!
Posted by: sp | October 6, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Nice Tapper… any more garbage?
Posted by: Omentum | October 6, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
“Two words
Hagee and Keating.’
Two Words:
Who cares?
Posted by: Mack | October 6, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I sure hope the undecideds are hearing / seeing the hate messages of the PUMAs and the McCain supporters… I have a feeling it will not be viewed positively.
Posted by: sp | October 6, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Mack,
My thoughts exactly when it came to this post:
Clair,
The character of the person in the Whitehouse should matter. Someone who could sit passively by in that hate filled church for 20 years – someone who would even think about nurturing a decades long relationship with the disgusting likes of William Ayers is unfit to command – it’s just that simple.
Posted by: oldspice | Oct 6, 2008 7:06:32 PM
It’s the same thing. Who cares?
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Who is the real Barack Obama?
Born in the USA (McCain born in Panama)
1 wife (McCain had 2)
1 car (McCain has 13)
1 house (McCain has 9)
1 brain (McCain has 0)
Obama ahead of McCain 8% to 10% in every national poll – ABC, CBS, CNN, Zogby, Newsweek, Washington Post, Opinion Research, Gallup, MSNBC, Time, and US News.
McCain ahead of Obama in – zero – polls.
Who is Obama? Our next president.
IT’S OVA REPUBLICANS – YOU CAN’T FULFILL YOUR SICK DREAM OF DESTROYING AMERICA ANY MORE! HA HA! HAHAHA! HAH HAHA AHAAAH AHA HHA HA!
Obama.
Posted by: clifton | October 6, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
McCain’s honor is GONE. The tone of his campaign is getting toxic. It is clearly the increasing negativity of his campaign that is bringing out these incidents.
Palin’s insinuations that Mr. Ayers is still a terrorist and Obama may as well be a terrorist are tantamount to slander. She should be held accountable.
Posted by: jon in maryland | October 6, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Well there certainly is a pattern of both McCain and Palin being too comfortable with people demonizing their political opponents in offensive terms.
Last year a McCain supporter asked about Hillary Clinton, “How do we beat the ‘bitch’,” and McCain said nothing.
David Bellavia introduced McCain in April by saying about Obama, “You can keep your Tiger Woods,” and McCain said nothing.
Now today, someone calls Obama a “terrorist” at a rally and McCain says nothing.
And today Palin’s introducer uses “Hussein” for obvious pejorative effect and Palin says nothing.
Not long ago Pain said nothing, and actually laughed, when her opponent was called a “bitch” and a “cancer” on talk radio.
Even Cindy McCain has been in on this to some extent, calling Obama “the other guy”.
There is no question the McCain/Palin team’s behavior has lent a great deal of permissiveness to offensive rhetoric.
McCain and Palin openly encouraging the “other guy” meme can only make things worse.
Posted by: Danny | October 6, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
The people who are racist here are the black people. It just takes something like this presidental campaign for their true feelings to surface.
I never experienced racism before until I moved to the south…and it was from the black people. I think Black people just want a black president, and they are ignoring the true facts about this man.
Posted by: Ro | Oct 6, 2008 7:11:53 PM
Newsflash he has some white folks voting for him too!Wink wink.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
SP,
We are not haters, sadly realist…
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
I like to go online at realclearpolitics, they have a section on the right side of their Homepage called “Readers Articles”, you click on the heading and you can see articles from many papers or Blogs. Today I saw a site that had the F.B.I. Files on Frank Marshall Davis, who was Obama’s “Mentor” in Hawaii, he writes about Frank in his book. This guy was a Communist agent and a sex freak too. They have 100′s of pages in the file, he was a member of CPUSA and connected with the Soviet Union. It seems everyone Obama is connected with has a F.B.I. file, I’d love to see the one on Obama Grandparents, Obama’s Grandfather hooked him up with Davis
Posted by: Jim Aaron | October 6, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
More despicable campaign “rhetoric” from the McCain campaign, apparently John’s principles are long gone and he believe’s any dirty, lying, underhanded method that get his unworthy asss into the white house is OK. God, John, what happened to the man you once were? There was a time when you would have vehemently criticized people that used such tactics. Have you no shame?
Posted by: JR | October 6, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
You Obama supporters would be funny, if your ignorance wasn”t so pervasive. You call the Sheriff Scott a racist because he referred to Obama by his full name, yet you support a candidate who attended a racist black liberation theology church for over 20 years. Very funny, indeed.
Posted by: Fred | October 6, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
This entire country seems to be going to hell on a freight train because of the intolerance and hatred so evident in some of the posts. Grow up and act like adults….you can disagree without trying to destroy the person you disagree with. I hope that you are capable of setting a better example for your children than what we see tonight.
Posted by: beth | October 6, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
I wonder what you McCain “supporters” would talk about if you had to discuss and argue for McCain’s ideas / policies / issues.
You’d have nothing.
Posted by: flop sweat express | October 6, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Posted by: oldspice | Oct 6, 2008 7:14:41 PM
What is so different about bringing it up?
Because it is a negative for your candidate? It’s the same freaking thing. I see you had to resort to name calling too. Typical.
Vote for McCain I could care less but when you lose everything you own and have no food don’t be whining. When there is no US of A you can thank yourself and other’s like you for that.
GWB has done a bang up job….geee I want more of the same old crap.
Posted by: J | October 6, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Prove this video wrong, Obama supporters. It is very straight forward. The video proves that Obama’s church preached black liberation theology for the whole 20+ years of his attendance, and then it offers verifiable evidence of the racist nature of the theology, including many quotes from James H. Cone, the founder of black liberation theology. The bottom line is that Obama attended and adhered to a racist religion for over 20 years. One does not attend a racist church, unless one is a racist, any more than someone would attend KKK meetings for 20 years unless he or she were a racist. Prove me wrong, if you can!
Posted by: James | October 6, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Barack Hussein Obama is carrying a lot of dirty luggage, ie. Wright, Rozcoe, Pflager, Farrakhan, and not to mention Ayers.
Do you trust him? Duh!
Posted by: TheCuban | October 6, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Reginald: Very eloquent garbage. Good job defending the indefensible.
Posted by: Emily | October 6, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
I’m confused. The economy goes bad and that INCREASES Obama’s chances to win??? Why – during such critical changes – would we vote for an inexperienced, JUNIOR senator who has voted “present” most of his career and gives new meaning to “flip-flop”? Give me the older, stable, decisive, wiser guy anyday (and I’m a lifelong gay Democrat!)
Posted by: gaypastor | October 6, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
gaypastor: I share your puzzlement with the fact that the ailing economy has benefited Obama. After all, it was McCain who saw this coming in 2005 and co-sponsored a bill to regulate Fannie and Freddie. It was the Democrats who killed the bill in committee. Also, Barack Obama has received more money from Fannie and Freddie in his 3 years in the Senate, than any other legislator in either house, other than Christopher Dodd, who is the chairman of the committee which overseas Freddie and Fannie.
Then, when the Congress develops their bailout bill, it is laden with hundreds of millions of dollars for the voter fraud group, Acorn. It took McCain and the House Republicans to force Congress to delete those provisions.
It is a testament to the power of the mainstream media, which is in the pocket of Obama, that the American public has been brainwashed into thinking that this problem should be laid at the feet of John McCain.
Posted by: Emily | October 6, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
They’ve got absolutely nothing left in the tank, so they’re going personal.
McCain has totally ruined his entire reputation. Palin’s negatives are so bad that she’ll most likely be a one-term Governor, and will never be heard from again (except from perhaps a prison cell for cheating on her taxes…)
And the best news? The Republicans will most likely lose at least 6 senate seats, if not as many as 10. And you’ve got nothing but Bush and McCain to blame for it.
Posted by: Dendroica | October 6, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Look, this kind of stuff is going to happen when you start to run the type of campaign the McCain folks are running. Does that make it right, absolutely not. However, I doubt that McCain condones this type of action (as shown by the statement). He actually seemed a little off after the comment.
That being said, like the economy, expect it to get worse before it gets better. Until the McCain people stop with this ridiculous line of attacks/desperation, the rabid right wing nut jobs out there that will do other dumb things. Look how long it took to get past some of the viral emails out there.
While it is not over, McCain is becoming very close to being irrelevant in October.
Posted by: Jason | October 6, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
desperation doesn’t mean it ‘ain’t so’… Obama is a mystery man. Tell me again how he got to where he is today.
Posted by: msa123
……………………………..
For everyone out there who asks this question: I highly doubt you have even bothered to read any of Obama’s biographies, autobiographies, or listened to the stories of each candidate that have been televised repeatedly. If you don’t know who he is by now, it’s because of your laziness, not because Obama has failed to put himself and his story out there. And for all you crazy people on this forum who claim that Obama really is a terrorist and is supremely dangerous— I also believe that your own prejudice and narrow-mindedness has prevented you from understanding him, because he is actually a remarkably intelligent and thoughtful man, and it seems that you will believe any slander thrown his way. I feel bad for Americans who were instantly convinced by McCain and others trying to discredit Obama, because it is really just infusing fear of the unfamiliar into an election that should embrace change–not prejudice.
Posted by: Erin | October 6, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Erin: You want us to read Obama’s own autobiographies to find out the “truth” about him? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, stop, you’re killing me, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, wait, I can’t stand it, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by: Barack | October 6, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Reality-based: Why doesn’t Obama just come out and call us “whitey?” After all, he’s the one who attended a racist black liberation theology church for over 20 years. You can’t get more racist than that.
Posted by: Obvious Guy | October 6, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
The association of many years with the likes of Farrakahn, Wright, Ayers, Rozcoe and others, is motive to doubt the moral character and judgement of any one, much more for some one running for the presidency of the greatest country in the world. Barack Hussein Obama have too much luggage. If you want to vote for him, it’s your AMERICAN given right. Me? I lived in a Communist country and I know how they work the masses, this guy don’t fool me.
Posted by: TheCuban | October 6, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain/Palin and the Republicans
Posted by: republicans nomore | October 6, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Obama attended Trinity United Church for over 20 years, and considered Rev. Wright to be his “mentor and spiritual adviser.” Trinity United preaches Black Liberation Theology, developed by James H. Cone.
Posted by: Barack | October 6, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Barack: Fine. Read other people’s OBJECTIVE accounts, not just the anti-Obama BS out there, as I’m sure that is all you have exposed yourself to. PS Obama has character–and doesn’t need to embellish his personal story to impress. You are so full of bias I doubt that it matters anyways. Oh, and nice response, you came across really thoughtful yourself.
Posted by: erin | October 6, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
“Why didn’t he use Palin’s middle name? He didn’t know it.”
Riiiight. And why didn’t he know it? Because middle names aren’t usually used! So why use Barack Obama’s?
Posted by: Aengil | October 6, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
You republicans really need to get over this Reverend Wright thing.
When our country is run by fools like Bush who destroy the country, the only thing one can say is: “God Damn America.” It is the truth, and it is unpatriotic not to say so.
Did you ever ask yourselves why Obama is winning all the polls? Simple. There are 150 Million Americans who tonight are saying “God Damn America” when they look at their lost jobs, lost homes, and lost retirement accounts.
We all agree with Reverend Wright, which is why McStupid and Failin’ are losin’ this electshin’
Posted by: clifton | October 6, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
John McCain Profile:
John McCain hobby? Political stunts!
John McCain dream? Be the president no matter what!
John McCain political ideology? Opportunist!
John McCain cheerleader? Sarah Palin.!
John McCain favorite place? Florida, many elderly residents and you can manipulate the voting results!
John McCain favorite Cable news? FOX spin masters!
John McCain favorite movie? Pinocchio!
John McCain favorite song? Bomb.Bomb..Bomb Iran!
John McCain favorite word.? President Reagan ,my friends!.
John McCain friends? Wealthy people like him.!
John McCain ability ?Regular flip flop.!
John McCain number of houses? Seven!
John McCain Number of cars?Eleven!
John McCain definition of middle class?Under five million dollars assets!
John McCain family business value? Over hundred millions!
Posted by: dontspin | October 6, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
To the left wing liberal fools…”What a fool believes he sees (or hears) no wise man has the power to reason away”…. Quote “Doobie Brothers”.
Posted by: TJB | October 6, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Aengil: I don’t believe that it is appropriate to use anyone name against them, period. I will say that the temptation some have to emphasize Obama’s middle name would likely be much less if he didn’t have so many racists and terrorists for friends, advisers, and supporters.
Posted by: Barack | October 6, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
To the left wing liberal fools…”What a fool believes he sees (or hears) no wise man has the power to reason away”…. Quote “Doobie Brothers”.
Posted by: TJB | Oct 6, 2008 7:52:39 PM
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SMALL WORLD! I saw Michael McDonald at Invesco in Denver… playing for OBAMA.
Posted by: mcangry and desperate | October 6, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
John McCain and Sarah Palin want to be elected like Republicans but they are trying to avoid discussing issues critical for the American families. And portraying themselves like reformers because they are embarrassed of the last 8 years of the Republicans –Bush Administration Americans want answers to they problems they want better healthcare they want better pay they don’t want just change because that sounds good on election time, they want change from the Bush policies.
The financial institutions are bankrupt. The dollar super weak
The military are stressed out dangerously. Factories and jobs move overseas.
Home owners become homeless. And John McCain worry about the judgment of OBAMA?
McCain is desperate to be a President! He doesn’t see the disaster of Iraq coming when he vote in favor of War .He support deregulations and then argue about the circus of Wall Street .A person who talk against the Government but he favors the government interference .What you can say about his judgment? Now we know that not only Obama can lead, but also he had a plan for the future of this great country!
Now McCain can snooze tight. Obama can answer the 03.00 am call any time!
Rebublicants can spin like wash machine all day long! The truth is
Senator McCain past actually impairs him from to be flexible and confront the future with open mind. The last days of the campaign confirmed that McCain -Plain are the most inadequate people to run this country!
The same people who gave George Bush a second term should feel responsible for the mess that is occurring today. They are the same ones who today have doubts about the ability of Obama to be a good choice for President. At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain and the Rebublicants .
Posted by: dontspin | October 6, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
AS SARAH PALIN WOULD SAY:
” I can see us losing in a landslide from MY HOUSE”
(*_*)
Posted by: mark | October 6, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Since some folks on this blog couldn’t convince the public that Obama was a foreign-born terrorist, they’re now trying to spin that he’s a racist, and white folks had better watch out because he’s gonna come with his army of bow-tied Farrakhan supporters.
Racism is a live and well in America in this form: some say black folks are angry and vengeful and we shouldn’t be lettin’ run things. This is the mindset of so many Americans. Shame!
Posted by: weiji2001 | October 6, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
I think the relationshop between McCain and Keating is a stinging verdict of the terrible judgement McCain has. Not only did he count him as a friend and accept his tainted money, but he actively worked for Keating to halt regulation of the savings and loan system that crashed it. Oh, and did I mention that it cost US taxpayers $124.6 billion dollars?
He may not have been directly involved in the scheme, but McCains going to bat for Keating was just horrendously galling for someone who tries to portray himself as a reformer and a fighter for the average man. How anyone can say “oh, who cares” about something thats very salient to todays troubles, is sad, but I admit, hilarious.
For the record, I rather try something different than more of the damn same from someone who still doesn’t realize that supply-side “trickle-down” economics doesn’t work, will never work, and has done nothing to further the middle class in this country.
Posted by: LOLMcSame | October 6, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Racist wow what a joke.
A white man says ANYTHING and he’s a racist yet a black man can say anything and don’t contradict it because it’ll prove you are a racist….. welcome to the USSA the new socialist state
Posted by: TJB | October 6, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
CAN YOU SAY, “FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT”?
1) Obama’s church preached black liberation theology for the whole 20+ years of his attendance.
2) Ergo, all people who attend this church must be racists.
3) Obama attended this church.
4) Ergo, Obama must be a racist.
CAN YOU SAY “FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT”?
Posted by: weiji2001 | October 6, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Who They Are, What They’re About
Josh Marshall
So we have McCain today getting his crowd riled up asking who Barack Obama is and then apparently giving a wink and a nod when one member of the crowd screams out “terrorist.”
And later we have Sarah Palin with the same mob racket, getting members of the crowd to yell out “kill him”, though it’s not clear whether the call for murder was for Bill Ayers or Barack Obama. It didn’t seem to matter.
These are dangerous and sick people, McCain and Palin. Whatever it takes. Stop at nothing.
Posted by: sp | October 6, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
“Terrorist” is a person who love to use dirty tasks for camp.
Posted by: Dirty | October 6, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
To the very foolish extreme liberals you scare the heck out of me. like Bush is extreme right and Obama is extreme left.
McCain has proved time again he tend toward the middle.
“Two things are infinite The universe and human stupidity and I’m not sure about the former.”
Quote, Albert Einstein
Posted by: TJB | October 6, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Obama’s camp started the race to the bottom in the primaries. It was Obama who made thug tactics acceptable in this campaign. We warned you over and over again this would ugly. Instead ABC, CNN and the rest just dived right into the tank advocating for a candidate so unqualified he can’t even tell you where he was when his campaign started.
You’ve lost your reputations as journalists, and America no longer has a single news organization we can trust.
McCain responsible? Heck, McCain has barely been a part of the election.
So you and Campbell Brown quit preaching and just report the news.
Polite? Probably not, but you made the game what it is. Pay up.
Posted by: len | October 6, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Barack (the poster below), you have given no evidence of Obama being racist. Once you give facts, I’ll listen to you.
Posted by: Alex | October 6, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
KEEP UP THE NONSENSE, MCCAIN CAMPAIGN. HERE’S THE LATEST FROM REAL CLEAR POLITICS:
Colorado 48.0 44.0 Obama +4.0
Ohio 48.7 45.2 Obama +3.5
Florida 49.3 45.3 Obama +4.0
Nevada 49.3 47.5 Obama +1.8
Missouri 47.8 47.5 Obama +0.3
Virginia 49.9 45.1 Obama +4.8
Posted by: Blue in Michigan | October 6, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
“… the temptation some have to emphasize Obama’s middle name would likely be much less if he didn’t have so many racists and terrorists for friends, advisers, and supporters.”
Please. Terrorists? Name two. And note that Ayers isn’t a terrorist – he was in the past, but isn’t now. He’s a college Professor.
As for racists, have you actually read any significant number of Wright’s sermons? This may shock you, but they’re not actually racist. Really. That’s the bottom line here.
The question of whether Black Liberation Theology (BLT) as a whole is racist is consequently fairly academic, not to mention complex. Is opposition to racism inherently racist in itself? Is hating white people because they hate you racist? (Bear in mind Cone’s book, Black Theology and Black Power, was published in 1969 when Cone was 31). Now… what happens over time, and the institutions and people become less racist? At what point does that opposition to the institutions and people that were racist become racism itself? Like I said, it’s a complex issue (to complex to cover in a blog comment). But like I also said, if you check out the Rev. Wright’s typical sermons, they’re not in themselves racist.
So personally, given Barack Obama’s background (white parents, raised in part by white grandparents), the fact that (having checked them out myself) the typical sermons of Rev. Wright were not, actually, racist, and the fact that I haven’t seen any account of him himself expressing any sign of being racist, I’d have to conclude that he is not racist.
Posted by: Aengil | October 6, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
ALL races have been enslaved at one time or another.
If I keep being told someone is different I’m going to start to believe it. I was raised to think of all mankind deserves the same until proved otherwise. Get over it we’re all Americans are we not?
Posted by: TJB | October 6, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Still think most liberals are fools.
Again I say welcome to the USSA boy are we in trouble if Obama is elected. No matter what is said because a snake oil salesman can sell sand to Egypt.
Posted by: TJB | October 6, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
The McCain-Palin campaign is starting to sound like Sean Hannity’s show. It’s disgusting.
Posted by: cincyr | October 6, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Uh-uh. Sorry, “barack”, it’s YOUR argument that doesn’t hold water. The KKK is not a church where people come to rpay to Jesus. The KKK was a domestic terrorist organization advocating white supremacy — WHICH WAS IT’S ONLY PURPOSE AND THE ONLY REASON TO BE A MEMBER.
BLT is a liberation-based belief which does not preach supremacy or violence, but advocates empowerment and seeks the right of self-definition, self-affirmation and self-determination. The theology is not racist, but an empowerment of the people through the power of Christian faith.
Posted by: weiji2001 | October 6, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
a trillion dollars that could have been used to provide health care coverage for every citizen, put tens of thousands back to work to rebuild New Orleans and our general infrastructure. Invested in renewable energy sources and used to build a monument to the twin towers that would have shown that we cannot be knocked down, was instead spent to conquer a country that could barely get running water outside of its capital city as well as being one of the only countries in the region that was not providing a safe haven to the group that attacked us. The terrorists are winning.
Posted by: Danny | October 6, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Mr. Tapper,
The McCain campaign is responsible for the level of fear mongering and lies that they use. We are not fools. This is engineered and the words are chosen with care and emotional impact. That is the Rove way and they are effective.
The problem is that everyone knows these are lies. Everyone. They are used to evoke our worse demons. They are used to evoke fear, hate, and prejudice and yes, the words are used carefully… “pal with terrorists (plural), you are a terrorist. You are a terrorist, then you are a muslim, black and al queda our worse enemy. Bringing together the hate of our enemy with racism is the worse type of evocation. This is done by born again Christians and this is done in front of our children and the world. This speaks of dark spirits worse than the McCarthy era. We need to be careful what we bring forth.
At one rally by Mrs. Pallin, a person yelled “kill him”.
At McCain’s recent rally, a person yelled “terrorist” (about Obama).
This isn’t ambiguous. This is a mean-spirited witches brew being made.
Posted by: lucy2008 | October 6, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
It’s about time that the character and the characters of Obama’s “friends” are put before the public. He has gotten a free pass so far. Interesting that the “Big Media” shows more interest in her husband’s DUI than in Obama’s admitted addiction to cocaine.
Posted by: dave | October 6, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Barack Obama is an American. Just like John McCain. He loves his country and is trying to do the best he can to serve his fellow citizens. What makes him the superior candidate is that he knows he does not need to make you afraid of John McCain to raise his profile. All he has had to do is present his case to the American people. I have no doubt that John McCain loves his country, the problem isn’t there, the problem is that he will gladly destroy his country in the name of victory. The President takes an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, not the flag, not a political party,Big business, not any lobby or special interest group. When was the last time John McCai, George Bush or Sarah Palin read the Constitution to do anything more than to see how to get around it? The Constitution is not about fear. John McCain is.
Posted by: Louis | October 6, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
I AGREE WITH JOE BIDEN.
As Joe Biden has recently said when asked about BHO
On Obama’s appeal: “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean that’s a storybook, man.”
On Obama’s experience: “I think he can be ready, but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.”
On Obama’s threat to go into Pakistan after Al Qaeda: “The way to deal with it is not to announce it, it’s to do it…. The last thing you want to do is telegraph to the folks in Pakistan that we’re about to violate … their sovereignty.”
On Obama’s pledge to meet with leaders of rogue nations: “Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was president? Absolutely, positively no.”
On Obama’s Iraq plan: “My impression is he thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany. I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”
Posted by: James | October 6, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
I ALSO AGREE WITH HILLARY CLINTON:
“I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House and Senator Obama has a speech that he gave in 2002.”
“More than ever before, our workers will need good job training for the jobs of this new century. But we can’t afford on-the-job training for our next president. That could be the costliest job training in history.”
“And we don’t need Obama’s trillion-dollar tax increase that will hit families already facing higher energy, health care and college costs. What we need is to focus on the real crises of health care and Medicare, and on expanding opportunities for poor, working and middle class families who are struggling now.”
Posted by: James | October 6, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
I ALSO AGREE WITH BILL CLINTON:
It is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he had been against the war in every year, numerating the years, and never got asked one time, not once, ‘Well, how could you say, that when you said in 2004 you didn’t know how you would have voted on the resolution? You said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war and you took that speech you’re now running on off your website in 2004 and there’s no difference in your voting record and Hillary’s ever since?’ Give me a break. “This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”
“I think that they (Obama) played the race card on me. And we now know, from memos from the campaign and everything that they planned to do it all along.”
Posted by: James | October 6, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Not just her husband’s DUI but his treasonous past.
Posted by: dave2 | October 6, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Well, at least Palin’s husband didn’t bomb the Pentagon and the Capitol Building like Obama’s buddy, William Ayers.
Posted by: Barack | October 6, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Jake asks:
Jump ball for discussion purposes: Are these random events it’s unfair to blame on the McCain-Palin campaign, or does the new tone of the McCain-Palin campaign encourage these types of statements?
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Where do we draw the line, when we decide some “tone” has encouraged outrageous statements?
Did the anti-Iraq war tone of the Democrats encourage Code Pink to show up at various hearings, waving fake-blood colored hands in Condoleeza Rice’s face?
What about the hecklers all of the candidates have faced throughout the campaign? Are they encouraged by the rhetoric of the other campaigns?
Posted by: MayBee | October 6, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Jake, honestly, I hear the name Hussein it does nothing inside of me. No heart jump. No clammy hands. No fearful palpitations. It’s a name. Big deal. And I can’t imagine it’s that big of a deal to voters either.
Maybe because I live in NYC and hear and use foreign names on a daily basis, that the fear of the unknown factor doesn’t come into play. My neighbor’s name is Abu (from Yemen) and corner grocery store is owned by a guy who goes by the name of Raj but his real name is Muhammad. These are names … that’s it.
Posted by: mary | October 6, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Actually, James, I respect that Obama could choose someone like Biden as a VP – someone who disagrees with him and will challenge him. They both have their own minds. anyone with any level of intelligence knows that things are said in primary campaigns… we could go back and find things Mittens said about McCain, etc.
Today?
Democrat HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON has raised more than $8 million for former rival Barack Obama’s presidential campaign since July and plans to barnstorm the country for even more cash, as the New York senator works to show she is aggressively helping the candidate who cut short her White House bid. “I am using every tool that I have to help Democrats win,” Clinton told USA TODAY. She was between fundraising events in Texas and California that brought in another $1.5 million for Obama and congressional candidates on Friday and Saturday. Later this month, Clinton will headline Obama fundraisers in Chicago, Philadelphia and Little Rock along with 11 events to raise money for Democratic congressional candidates and state parties.
Former President BILL CLINTON revved up a crowd on behalf of Barack Obama in Florida Wednesday, his first since the Democratic convention. And though he repeated his mantra that Democrats don’t have to “say one bad word” about their Republican opponents to win the election, Clinton actually snuck in a dig against Sarah Palin. “So he’s got a better philosophy. He’s got better answers. He’s got a better understanding, and better advisers on these complex economic matters. He’s got a better vice presidential partner,” Clinton said to a crescendo of applause.
Posted by: try again | October 6, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Well, at least Palin’s husband didn’t bomb the Pentagon and the Capitol Building like Obama’s buddy, William Ayers.
Posted by: Barack | Oct 6, 2008 8:54:59 PM
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Explain why you’re okay with the ongoing and current relationship between McCain and G Gordon Liddy:
As Media Matters for America has noted, Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy’s radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled “John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07″ includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an “old friend.” During the segment, McCain praised Liddy’s “adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,” said he was “proud” of Liddy, and said that “it’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program.”
Posted by: flop sweat express | October 6, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
About time.
And it’d be really nice if the media would drop the Obama pom-poms for a minute and actually investigate his associates and background instead of whitewashing it. Why not start with sending the hundreds of reporters that went to Wasilla to Chicago to check things out?
Posted by: Rebecca | October 6, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
If the polls drop a little more, Palin will be dropping the “N-” word “by mistake” soon.
The VPs are supposed to be attack dogs. Biden attacks on the issues. Palin has no issues to attack, so she has to attack character and sound bites.
Posted by: FLRepublican | October 6, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Why not start with sending the hundreds of reporters that went to Wasilla to Chicago to check things out?
Posted by: Rebecca | Oct 6, 2008 9:02:09 PM
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Well, Rebecca, how do you feel about McCain’s ongoing friendship with Liddy?
Posted by: don't talk about the economy! | October 6, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
An error in my previous post.
It should read…
“And Cone is NOT running for president”
Posted by: weiji2001 | October 6, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Is it important for the president and his family to exhibit Christian values in every aspect of their lives? John McCain broke his vows and deserted his crippled first wife. He is an adulterer, and maybe even a coward, for not honoring his vows. His second wife Cindy may be an adulteress as well. They were married in a lavish society wedding one month after McCain’s first marriage was dissolved. John McCain may be an adequate president, but are he, and his wife and family, adequate role models for our children. If John McCain becomes president, will I have to make excuses and explanations, to my son and other children, on the forgiveablity of divorce, the forgiveability of deserting a woman who was brought to the alter and bound in a covenant of love and devotion? John McCain’s behavior cannot be reconciled with any standard of moral fortitude to which I expect to hold my childen. Similarly, if Sarah Palin becomes vice president, will I have to explain to my daughter the acceptability of becoming a teenage mom? It does seem hypocritical all around.
Posted by: teresa | October 6, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Right wing nut jobs might be well to remember people who live in 7 glass houses should not throw stones! McCain is pals with G. Gordan Liddy and publically admired this anti semitic felon for “the work he has done.” He was a member of a right wing coalition that was racist and anti semitic. He was endorsed by a Pastor whose insensitive remarks he had to repudiate. And he is the only candidate who was censured by the Senate for poor judgement for his involvement with Charles Keating-a convicted swindler. And let’s not forget Palin who is up to her neck in an ethics investigation, is being sued for unethically using personal email to conceal correspondence and who is married to a former member of the Alaskan Secessionist Party. Independent voters have far more brains that McPalin give them credit for, so their goose is cooked.
Posted by: Ginna | October 6, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
It’s time for the grownups still involved in the McCain campaign to take a deep breath and realize their words have consequences. He may be losing the race and getting desperate but deep down McCain can’t possibly be comfortable hearing someone (a presumed supporter no less) shouting that.
Posted by: Concerned | October 6, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
How plausible are dems complaining about smears?JUst look at how viciously attacked Palin was and is.She is the Governor of a State and you would think she was the anti-christ…..wrong example,Omamaniacs probably worship him.These attacks exemplify the evil, crass, vitriole spewed by the obamaniacs.These beligerent miscreants laugh in the face of decent people.ENOUGH
Posted by: Hannah | October 6, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Hannah, what vicious attacks against Palin are you talking about.
Posted by: Just Wondering | October 6, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Who is OBAMA–well he someone who is conected one way or another with
ACORN
AYERS
ALINSKY
WRIGHT etc.and although his campaign tries to diminish the importance of each–it is quite obvious,on the whole the type of people who were in his life–America haters and subversives.What kind of person has this circle of friends,especially when there is not much meat in his resume to balance it out???
Posted by: Hannah | October 6, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
I agree gatc–an intelligent response indeed.
Posted by: Hannah | October 6, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
The Palin/McCain ticket should accept responsibility since this is exactly what they want. They want to paint him as terrorist loving and they want to stoke up fear and division.
Posted by: WeLoveOurBooks | October 6, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Listen for “Obama and Terrorist” to be mentioned in the next couple of days……and watch Karl Rove to say “wow, even I wouldn’t go that low”
Obama said it best……”its what you do when your out of ideas and running out of time”
Posted by: Oregon4Obama | October 6, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Yeah ‘intelligent’ because this person can see through the fancy packaging and shameless promotion by the media to see what Obama stands for.
Yeah there is fear allright because people UNDERSTAND want OBama stands for—not all of us are brainwashed or agog at the thought of the ONE.
Posted by: Hannah | October 6, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Riiight, Hannah.
Suppose you tell us the facts and proof you have to suport your fearmongering.
Posted by: weiji2001 | October 6, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
The fear and hatred that McCain and Palin are bringing up for Obama by recklessly linking him with a “terrorist” connotation is DANGEROUS.
It’s hate-mongering and for a party that says they’re “mavericks” in that they bring parties together instead of just going for the Republican base, this will be something that will go beyond polarizing the two groups with intense anger and make it difficult for the next president to preside and quell the division.
If there are people out there who actually BUY what McCain is saying to the fullest, they’re putting Obama in danger. Look how surprised McCain is when the guy yells “terrorist!”– but isn’t that EXACTLY the connection they’re hoping to make?
McCain and Palin are using fear and hatred to motivate a party to action… and Obama is the terrorist?
Posted by: Samantha | October 6, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
How funny that John Sidney McCain III wants to sling mud. Keating is a whole lot more relevant than Ayers. Ayers is a college professor in Chicago. McCain made out just fine after he and some of his goons made out with some quick cash. His wife is a recovering drug addict. SHe was addicted to prescription drugs. Palins husband was part of that Alaskan seperatist group. So that makes her a terrorist by McCains standard. Much mre so, because she married the man. I doubt that anyone here will change there mind as to who to vote for, so let’s end it on this. Make sure to pass the word on to anyone you know that they should go out and vote. No matter who they want to vote for, people need to vote, especially the young voters. We all know they are the ones that will have to pay for any bumps we hit along the road.
Posted by: Original Patriot | October 6, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Yeah, carpe diem. We heard you. Twice.
Give us the facts, please.
Posted by: weiji2001 | October 6, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Sorry. That should be three times. And all three are useless, empty comments.
Posted by: weiji2001 | October 6, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Of course this is all intentional. They’re trying to stir up all the pig-ignorant yahoos and rednecks out there.
Luckily for us, there aren’t enough of them any more to tip the election.
Posted by: Lemmy | October 6, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
This race is still close and it will be close since we are a nation that is split 50/50 and it is really the way Washington likes it Can’t you see them all sitting around having a drink and looking down on us laughing I can.If they wanted to end the war it would be a done thing they knew the shape of things on Wall street they all have money are you going to tell me they don’t keep up with it. Hell they have been telling us on tv for a year now .
Posted by: Bishop | October 6, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
To dear weiji2001(even your name is out of touch).
How much are you being paid for your amazing and dazzling display of erudition and oh so clever fact-bating technique?
You should go to bed–you don’t want to miss the spaceship in the morning.TATA
Posted by: Hannah | October 6, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
All of you crazies who practice sleaze politics, pls say out loud, “PRESIDENT OBAMA.” Start practicing.
Posted by: USA FIRST | October 6, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Hi Ruth.
Posted by: clifton | October 6, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
USA
we would but Obama wont be president forget it
Posted by: staniam | October 7, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
just a point about the statement Palin’s spokesperson gave:
“do not condone” is pretty weak.
Posted by: Danny | October 7, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
I thought Obama set the tone for the entire campaign when he sent out ads in South Carolina calling Hillary a secretive liar….and what about the ads he’s been running lately calling McCain “dishonorable” or trying to scare FL retirees claiming that McCain is going to take away their social security. What about the daily attacks on McCains age from Obama or the daily attacks portraying him as “erratic”. I would say he’s finally had enough.
Why does the media think that McCain is attacking first when Obama has never stopped attacking?
It’s true that McCain gave a speech about the differences of how he and Obama would handle the economy…and about 2 or 3 minutes of it was “Who is Obama?”
I think it’s what you choose to cover and how you spin it.
Sadly I think it’s working….yellow journalism with Chicago talkinhg points. Obama needs no surrogates he has ya’ll.
Posted by: Jackie | October 7, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
I use to like McCain not as a presidential candidate but as a person. He rather go to the White House with half of the country hating him, than go with honor and respect.
Posted by: Kathy | October 7, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
McCain and Palin are the very people who won’t allow this country to move forward from hate and racism that still exists in this country today by fanning the flames of hatred and fear. It’s downright sad. McCain rather go to the White House with half of the country disliking him, than with honor and respect.
Posted by: Kathy | October 7, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Obama doesn’t even know who he is. He doesn’t know when he was born. He doesn’t know where he was born. He doesn’t know what religion he is. He doesn’t know who his friends are much less how long he’s known them. He doesn’t know what happened to his records in Illinois. Tony Rezko is “not” the Tony Rezko I know. He doesn’t know Nadhmi Auchi. Rev. Wright is not the Jeremiah Wright I know. Does he know Rashid Khalidi when he speaks about Israel? Look up that guy’s bio. Obama does know he and Ayers gave this guy grants in 2001 and 2002. Not 40 years ago but he thinks it’s close.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | October 7, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
The real Obama is the American who is less than 1 month from becoming president.
Amazing how the electoral map is turning his way.
Posted by: Rex | October 7, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
John McCain: American Terrorist
Terrorism is the systematic use of terror.
Terrorism is also a form of psychological warfare.
When John McCain or those who represent him accuse Senator Obama of “palling around with terrorists,” the intent is to incite fear and hatred.
McCain is not a man of character. He does not uphold the ideals of this nation. He does not belong in the White House.
Posted by: ziadora | October 7, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
to the obama clan you stand for the one person that is so dangerous for this country.there is no getting accross to you intellectual morons. you want a socialist that hates white people will tax you to death run our lives with socialized medicine that will run this country into the ground.socialism is the change you can believe in.READ MY LIPS if he wins we will get hit again. tell me who your with and I’ll tell you who you are as simple as that. he is dangerous and a liar a smooth talker a deceiver to those who do not see the forest for the trees.
Posted by: maggie | October 7, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am
The whole don’t mention his middle name thing is stupid. I have heard countless news reporters comment on Palin’s kids names, but Obama’s name is off limits. IT IS HIS NAME! If he doesn’t like his name then he should have “Changed” it. SInce he didn’t change it, he is either incapable of change or he likes it. If he likes it then he should use it!
Posted by: ubu1991 | October 7, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am
Only in America can someone bomb the capital, the pentagon, preach hate for the country, fund education for teaching radical behavior to our youth..
well you get the idea…AND have the
distinction of friendship with a person
only a heartbeat away from the presidency. Isnt freedom great, it even
gives us the ability float around in a
dream world. Dont shoot the messenger,
you need to think about consequences.
Posted by: Peg | October 7, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am
It’s intentional, and it’s all they have left. Bold prediction: more Orwellian nonsense from McCain-Palin for 2 weeks, then a lose-with-dignity strategy to try to restore McCain’s legacy in the last weeks of the election.
Posted by: Steve Collins | October 7, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am
“The whole don’t mention his middle name thing is stupid. I have heard countless news reporters comment on Palin’s kids names, but Obama’s name is off limits.”
It’s not a question of not mentioning his middle name. It’s a question of why someone would use his middle name when they’re not using anyone else’s middle name.
The motives are pretty transparent.
It’s nothing like saying, “Why would anyone give their children such stupid names?” ;-)
Posted by: Aengil | October 7, 2008, 5:04 am 5:04 am
That sheriff looked startlingly like a stereotyped right wing thug…jackboots and all… Oh hell, the man reminded me of an SS soldier ! Scary imagery isnt it ?
Posted by: Curtis | October 7, 2008, 5:24 am 5:24 am
Get real please…after you talked the day before about him “PALLING” around with a known terrorist and then the next day his middle name is shouted out…are you stupid????
After hearing for months the name Sudom Hussein and how much of a terrorist he was, what do you think sticks in some people’s empty heads?
It was done for effect to put that fear into the minds of those who can not get past the fact that he is black and would never want him in the white house.
How long before the “N” words gets shouted next?
When Palin said he hung with a known terrorist, listen close because some shouts “kill ‘em”.
You tell me what that says about caring Americans.
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Bev | October 7, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am
Obama supporters have some pretty nasty things to say as well…nobody blames his campaign…again…Obama propagandists (aka mainstream media) being hypocrites and applying a double standard..
Posted by: Lulu | October 7, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am
Want to see that along with Mr. Dude that Sarah herself is a member of the AIP?
Got to you tube and type in Palin AIP member…listen to what the head guy says about her and so happy that she is a member.
Mud is mud, it’s all dirty, but if you hit me first, then be prepared to get hit back.
McCain said he would never fight dirty and because he is losing, he had to bring up stuff that was asked and answered during the primary…where were all of you when those things were reported on already for the last 20 plus months.
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Bev | October 7, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am
We are so proud of you Jim.
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Bev | October 7, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
Abunimah said Obama urged him to “keep up the good work” at the Chicago Tribune- where Abunimah contributed guest columns that were highly critical of Israel. Abunimah serves on the board of the AAAN- a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a “catastrophe” and supports intense immigration reform- including providing driver’s licenses and education to illegal aliens
Posted by: Judy in Oklahoma | October 7, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Desperate people use desperate tactics, I am done McCain lost my vote. The United States is in enough turmoil we do not need this negative campaining, Scott and Palin should be ashamed of themselves (not very christian like Sarah). Calling people terroists and using Nazi Sheriffs to do your dirty work!!! American people are smarter than you think and we will do whats right on November 4th. YOU BETCHA!WINK!WINK!
By the way I am a republican, working, Hockey Mom!
Posted by: Sheri G | October 7, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
I am simply not surprised anymore with what the McCain campaign is going to come up with. Throughout this campaign, they have managed to stoke fears that Obama is muslim (like simply being one is a dangerous thing), link him to all sorts of associations with crooks, sometimes simply on the basis of Obama being in the same room with a person, lie about his tax plan for the middle class, continue to charge that the media is biased (to innoculate their lies). Now they claim Barack Obama is associated with the Weathermen (he was 8 when they were active). Yes, indeed Obama has gone into attack mode as well, but his attacks are based on far more relevant associations like McCain’s deep links with Lobbyists (the McCain campaign is both financially supported and staffed by lobbies), McCain’s dangerous healthcare plan, his proposal to open up social security for investment decisions (good idea, but also adding considerable risk to people’s security net), and McCain’s behavior (claiming that the fundamentals of our economy is strong, and then messing up the bailout talks for political gain, his impulsive my-way-or-the-highway approach to problems, his irresponsible selection of Palin), his tactics of dividing the electorate on choices that do not matter to the challenges we are facing today (guns, abortion, gay marriage etc), and his unethical attempts at voter caging across swing states to disqualify democrat votes. So while both campaigns have gone negative, we need to take things into perspective, and understand the difference between mud slinging versus relevant criticism, they are very different things. I have given up trying to convince the hard-core right wingers, and racially prejudiced people, because these are a group that have been completely swayed by their own preconceived notions about a candidate they have not even tried to read up about. This group has been hugely affected John McCain’s systemetic strike at the media establishment (so they can say anything they want), to believe only what John McCain is saying, and have been programmed to allow their prejudice to claim that Obama is not experienced enough. Truth is, you can hire experience and you can buy knowledge, but you can never change someone’s judgment and the moral compass that guides it. I am hoping that the Independent voters and undecided voters, who tend to be more deliberate, and inquisitive in their considerations would be able to make these distinctions.
Posted by: RoarkS | October 7, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
If this is the story about him being called by his rightful name its hogwash
So what?Thats his name His view is almost communist ,his views are not right for us,or the way we need America to go! period!
Posted by: karen | October 7, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Who is the ‘real’ Barrack Obama?
Who, for that matter, is the ‘real’ John McCain?
Please, people… these guys have been running for President for the past two years. Their every sneeze has been examined.
The negative campaigning was bound to happen. It’s been happening throughout the primaries and the entire process. You want to bring up guilt by ‘association’ and think that’s totally relevant? Who patriotic? Who’s not? OK, but clearly your concerns aren’t what’s right in front of your face. The Dow has lost almost 20% in the past few weeks. We’ve lost 750,000 jobs.
I don’t care if McCain tried to influence things to help some guy who ripped people off 20 years ago. I don’t care if Obama was on some board with some dude who did stupid destructive crap 40 years ago. It’s ancient history. What I care about is tomorrow.
Can we please just change the subject and ask the candidates to provide us with their ‘plans’ for steering the economy back to some semblance of normalacy so people can work and afford homes and that kind of thing?
Posted by: sharons | October 7, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
I don’t want a “War Hero”. I want a President.
Obama/Biden 2008
Posted by: David K. | October 7, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
At the VP debate when Palin asked Biden, “Can I call you Joe?”, he should have responded, Sure, but can I call you by your middle name, Weezee?” That would have been a riot!!
Posted by: bt | October 7, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Paige,
please. I’m guessing you’re a page in the McCain campain, right? Listen young one, don’t trust them grups you’re hanging with. Read a real book written by real investigators and seekers of the truth. Give your mind a chance to grow before it withers on the vine. Don’t be xenophobe; there’s no future in it.
Posted by: murr | October 7, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
McCain 2000: “Uh, I, I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.” [The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000]
This quote seems pretty appropriate right now…
They are going to provoke their avid followers into doing something horrible to Obama.
McCain/Palin are the ones using terrorist tactics to win this election.
Palin saying “i’m scared”, “i’m afraid” when refering to barack. inferring that he likes people who wish harm on our country, filing for investigation into his donations.
The terrorist do the same. Make their followers fearful, convince them that we will do harm to their homeland, claiming their targets have friendship and funding from the west.
It seems as though McCain/Palin are trying to incite violence, hatred, and terror to fire up their base.
Who are the real terrorists?
They lost my vote now that they have decided to ignore the issues facing us and focus on smear campaigns.
Posted by: Janet | October 7, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Paige,
please. I’m guessing you’re a page in the McCain campain, right? Listen young one, don’t trust them grups you’re hanging with. Read a real book written by real investigators and seekers of the truth. Give your mind a chance to grow before it withers on the vine. Don’t be xenophobe; there’s no future in it.
Posted by: murr | October 7, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
McCain 2000: “Uh, I, I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.” [The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000]
This quote seems pretty appropriate right now…
They are going to provoke their avid followers into doing something horrible to Obama.
McCain/Palin are the ones using terrorist tactics to win this election.
Palin saying “i’m scared”, “i’m afraid” when refering to barack. inferring that he likes people who wish harm on our country, filing for investigation into his donations.
The terrorist do the same. Make their followers fearful, convince them that we will do harm to their homeland, claiming their targets have friendship and funding from the west.
It seems as though McCain/Palin are trying to incite violence, hatred, and terror to fire up their base.
Who are the real terrorists?
They lost my vote now that they have decided to ignore the issues facing us and focus on smear campaigns.
Posted by: Janet | October 7, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
A Year ago I told my friends thet “If the Republicans nominate McCain, I’ll vote for McCain — because of all the politicians in congress he probably has a higher code of honor.” Now, a year later, I am disappointed to say it mildly and politely, he and his campaign staff are not showing much honorable conduct or class. His sleezy commercials and slandering enuendo’s has sent me firmly into Obama’s camp with his Staff of apparently more professional advisors. An old comment I heard once upon a time — To do the things it takes to win the White House pretty much proves you don’t deserve to win the White House. Senator McCain, win or lose, you have shamed yourself.
Posted by: Carl | October 7, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
The American people are not as stupid as the people of the ilk of Sarah Louise Palin and John McBush think they are. Instead od tyring to pull all Americans together at this time of crisis is not very Christian like. We all know the code words of racial discrimination are and Sarah we are not going for it. Why don’t you want to talk about the issues facing our country and offer up some resolutions to the problems? It appears that your small mind is not up to or capable of the task at hand and neither is your VP, John Mc Bush.
Posted by: Grey Fox | October 7, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Bad news for Sheriff Michael Joseph Scott. Federal authorities have opened an investigation of him for his participation in the Palin rally yesterday.
Posted by: Constant Reader | October 7, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Palin and McCain are clearly encouraging this sort of rhetoric, the cries of “Terrorist” and “Kill him” while avoiding crossing the line themselves. This gives them deniability when their rabid fans go nuts. But it’s still shameful. By analogy, it’s like inciting to riot, or “fighting words”, where you are legally culpable for encouraging violence even if you don’t commit the violence yourself.
Posted by: Reality-based | October 7, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
For me this campaign creates a first. Never before have I heard a candidate tacitly encourage the killing of a rival. That’s unchartered waters right there. And in today’s debate McCain was silent about it AND the Ayers claims, which says as much as you need to know about their integrity.
That aside, one might ask, if one is going to ask about domestic terrorism, what about Palin’s own Pastor Muthee, who, after all, boasts of running a woman out of town for being a witch and is credited by Palin with her becoming governor. What about Mccain’s connection with a convicted Cuban terrorist whose organisation “Omega 7″ actually did set off bombs on US soil (Jersey and NY) and murdered a Chilean diplomat (Orlando Letelier) on US soil, and the efforts of Lieberman on his behalf? McCain actually embraced this man at a rally and used his endorsement in a pitch for the support of Cuban emigres. Then there is McCain’s connection with the group providing the front for Reagan’s Iran Contra funding that actually carried out the mining of Managua Harbour in 1984.
Once you open this can of worms, it’s interesting what comes out.
Posted by: Fran Barlow | October 8, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
I have a question, was John McCain in office “IN” Arizona with Governor Mecum in 1985ish through 1989ish? Curious to know.
Posted by: mel | October 8, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
So you mean to tell me, since the news media isn’t saying what the republicans want them to say, then its ok to get your supporters so hyped to where they result to language such as “kill the man”? and what proof do anyone have that “B-a-r-a-c-k Obama” is tied into terrorisum? in the know.
Posted by: mel | October 8, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
IF YOU CAN NAME ONE THING THAT BARACK OBAMA HAS DONE THAT QUALIFIES HIM TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THEN YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR HIM.
SILENCE
Posted by: LIANA | October 8, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
Based upon this theory, I’m scared to death to see Obama as President:
I believe, since Barack Obama’s graduation from Harvard, he has been using coat tails to get where he wants to go. For instance, what other purpose would Obama have for sustaining a relationship with a radical, Bill Ayers, unless he had an agenda? And why would a freshman Senator be challenged to run for Presidential office unless his “friend” had an agenda? How many Americans go to bed wondering if Obama does win the election, how many times Bill Ayers will be visiting the White House? How many committees he may serve on? How much Ayers phylosophy will nurture Obama’s decision-making process as President. My thoughts are this: the reason Obama doesn’t want military action, in any country, is because of his same association with Ayers. His views are that Americans should suffer and be bombed and people killed before we stand upon our beliefs and values/morals as a nation and go inside another country with military action. I’m scared to death. I believe if Obama is elected, we’ll then see the Real Obama!
Posted by: PRY | October 8, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Everyone needs to take a deep breath with regards to William Ayers. The committee that Ayers sits on with Obama is for Chicago Education. It was started by, and is attended by many republicans and democrats. Let’s stop with the petty hate mongering. If you don’t like Obama’s policies/positions, then exercise your right as an American and vote for McCain.
Posted by: realitycheck | October 9, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
“Well, John worked well with us. I mean there were so many occasions when we would work on legislation together. He would look for a prominent Democrat to work with on a number of things, whether it was campaign reform or, now its climate change.
But over the years, it was it was commonly understood that if you wanted a Republican partner, John was one of the people you could often times talk to. We all had a good friendship with him, so it transcended politics. It, he is truly somebody who could work both sides of the aisle and has great friends and relationships with people on both sides. So the personal relationships, I think, created the environment where you could actually talk about doing something professionally or politically. Then add to that the frustration that he had especially towards Bush and that first year following the presidential election and he had the right mix for at least the possibility of serious negotiations.”
-Tom Daschle D-SD
Former Senate Majority Leader
Posted by: dank | October 15, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm