Who Will Help the Economy?

40 years of trickle down economics
compared to the earluy years where our focus was on the middle class being the engine that built this country into the beacon of strength that it was.

Well let’s see…..Obama could not even make a housing project in little ol Chicago work….how on earth can he make the entire US economy work?
Better yet, over $1,000 a month comes out of my pay check for taxes alone–I work with charitable organizations by donating my time and money……Obama/Biden, I think I am pretty patriotic and do not need my taxes increased so you two can go on a $1 Trillion Dollar spending spree.
As well, if we really want to help the aconomy—Get rid of Pelosi, Dodd, Reid and Franks sorry butts……I could care less if you replace them with a Democrat, Republican or Independent…..Those four stooges are the downfall of Congress not to mention the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac fiasco.
One would only need to look at whom gained the most money from those two housing giants and then that fact that Franks’ lover worked for them while he was head of the committee??? Really…..sound a little fishy because it sure does stink to most of America!!!!

“In San Antonio on Tuesday, Obama said that Clinton’s foreclosure freeze was potentially “disastrous,” rewarding “people who made this problem worse” by benefiting banks that profit from high mortgage rates.
Obama’s plan is sometihng he said was “DISASTOROUS” when Hillary first proposed it.
Obama -Erratic, liar, flip-flopper Dangerously uninformed.

LOL
geevil
your whole statement can be applied more easily to mccain LOL
if anyones been dangerously erratic its been mccain, i mean thank god this guy wasnt president right now… or lol who knwos where we would be…
i mean when your first decision as president elect is to pick the second most qualified person in the US to step in at a moments notice and assume the role of the presidency is to pick someone like sarah palin
i mean….
thats like handing iran all the nuclear parts and a blue print and letting them assemble it…
its deadly

CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN – 15% (no change)
OBAMA – 28%
How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that “Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.”

Is John McCain still wondering around the stage like he’s lost?
“McCain campaign says John McCain will announce new economic proposals.”
“McCain campaign says there is no truth they are going to announce new economic proposals”
“McCain campaign says ‘here are new economic proposals.”
MEANWHILE, STEADY AS A ROCK Barack Obama gave a major speech Monday where he proposed additional incentives for businesses that create new jobs in the United States.
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Was John McCain thinking about the nation’s welfare when he selected Sarah ‘Putins head in Alaskian airspace’ Palin to be one instant from being President of the Unite States?
John McCain. Just because he has dropped the ball a dozen times does not mean that he is experienced. It means he is incompetent!

Ex Democrat: ” If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. ”
Are you deliberately lying or mindlessly parroting a lie? The first $500k (married, $250k single) of profit on sale of a home is tax free.
Either way, you prove my point of why all Republican statements are assumed to be lies until proven true by prudent voters. IRS Publication 523 proves you are a liar – why should we trust anything else you have to say?

John McCain’s conscience: Err, it’s first $500k/$250k of profit under CURRENT tax code. To my knowledge, Obama has not proposed changing this.

Fun fact: In 1986, President REAGAN pushed through a tax reform act that RAISED the capital gains tax from 20% to 28% for high-income earners.

NOW he decides to focus on the economy, the middle class, seniors etc.! Oh, I guess the poll numbers dictated that he had to actually campaign on an issue instead of hate. He has never discussed the middle class in his stump speeches or in the debates – now, this weekend, in the 11th hour, the middle class is important. Obama and Biden have been campaigning on this for months and Obama for nearly 2 YEARS. Not two days like McCain! This is disingenulous. Obama’s plan, once portion of it, focuses on keeping families in their homes – making sure families are not booted out on the streets. His plan is comprehensive for the middle class offering numerous areas that will help the working poor and the middle class. Obama has been talking about helping the middle class in numerous speeches for months and also in all the debates. Obama hasn’t just jumped in at the last minute to care about the middle class – McCain has.

From yesterday’s Wall Street Journal, Obama’s 95% Illusion. It is a must read. Here’s an excerpt:
“Here’s the political catch. All but the clean car credit would be “refundable,” which is Washington-speak for the fact that you can receive these checks even if you have no income-tax liability. In other words, they are an income transfer — a federal check — from taxpayers to nontaxpayers. Once upon a time we called this “welfare,” or in George McGovern’s 1972 campaign a “Demogrant.” Mr. Obama’s genius is to call it a tax cut.
The Tax Foundation (non-partisan, non-profit organization) estimates that under the Obama plan 63 million Americans, or 44% of all tax filers, would have no income tax liability and most of those would get a check from the IRS each year. The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis estimates that by 2011, under the Obama plan, an additional 10 million filers would pay zero taxes while cashing checks from the IRS.”
Obama’s “tax cuts” will amount to nothing more than 60 million people paying no taxes and at least half of those people RECEIVING A CHECK FROM THE IRS. There’s only one word for this – socialism.

Who will help? Obama/Biden. Who’s been talking about helping the middle class for TWO YEARS???? Not “Johnny Come Lately” that’s for sure!

ElectionWatch: Clinton’s Rate Foreclosure Freeze Could Cause ‘Chaos’
the plan “deeply unsound” in its March 1-7 issue and said it “would surely result in higher rates and scarcer credit for future borrowers.” Even Washington Post business columnist David Ignatius called the moratorium “one of the truly bad ideas of our time” in a piece on February 21.

Woody: That Wall Street Journal hit piece has already been torn apart. It uses Cliton’esque phrasing to very carefully misrepresent Obama’s tax plan – ignoring important qualifiers like “working families.” Also, in a quite blatant attempt to mislead (there is no way the WSJ is ignorant of this), his plan includes PAYROLL TAXES too. Every single working family wage earner pays payroll tax. Notice how careful the WSJ is to always say “income tax,” counting on the partisan readers to be too blindly devoted to wonder why that careful parsing is so necessary…

Woody: That Wall Street Journal hit piece has already been torn apart. It uses Cliton’esque phrasing to very carefully misrepresent Obama’s tax plan – ignoring important qualifiers like “working families.” Also, in a quite blatant attempt to mislead (there is no way the WSJ is ignorant of this), his plan includes PAYROLL TAXES too. Every single working family wage earner pays payroll tax. Notice how careful the WSJ is to always say “income tax,” counting on the partisan readers to be too blindly devoted to wonder why that careful parsing is so necessary…
Posted by: jhw539 | Oct 14, 2008 10:43:34 AM
** But taxing health care will be better? explain…

and conservatives have the nerve to talk about voter registration after Florida and Palin lying about her abuse of power… the investigation she called for and then declined to be a part of… then she lied to people saying she was exonerated when she was found guilty by three republicans and two democrats… and the ALASKAN paper is the only one who called her out… what you hiding for? we all know she’s corrupt!

I’m a Democrat for McCain, but I believe that Obama will win this election. Pelosi & Reid expect a Democratic “super-majority” in Congress. It won’t help them get through the left’s socialist agenda. Too many moderate Democrats, especially in the south, will vote with Republicans against the Democratic super-majority. I find it interesting that Democrats running here in Missouri, like Steve Stengel, are emphasizing their CONSERVATIVE views in their ads. Stengel sent a flyer in the mail. The top of it said, “Conservative Democrat.” He then went on to distance himself from the Pelosi crowd. Even Jay Nixon, attorney general and Democratic candidate for governor, has jumped off the Obama bandwagon. Early in his campaign he started the “McCain=Bush” mantra, but very quickly dropped it. His own polling showed that attacking McCain was hurting him, even with Democrats. Looking at his campaign ads now, you’d think he had never heard of Barack Obama or the left wing of the Democratic Party. My cousins in Arkansas and Tennessee tell me Democratic politicians there are also distancing themselves from the Obama campaign, and the Pelosi/Reid wing of the party. One candidate went out of his way to tell people he’d never met Barack Obama, and does not share his views!!! I find that just amazing. I’ve never seen an election where members of a winning party try to distance themselves from the top of their ticket. We are in for a very interesting four years with an Obama/Pelosi/Reid presidency. Sit back and relax, folks. We’re in for a bumpy 4-year ride with the first, and undoubtedly last, Socialist president of the United States!

DavidM: “When is the media going to report the truth? ”
They have. And it’s not very worrying to rational people not in thrall to the Republican Right’s cult of fear. Everyone has heard about Ayers – it was hammered home during the primaries and was even a question in a prime-time debate. You are complaining because, after a rational consideration of the issue, most people don’t agree with you.
Get your argument straight: It’s not that the media hasn’t reported it, it’s that most people have all the facts and see you as a extremist.

Sometimes you feel like a nut sometimes you feel like and ACORN.
Obama is was a communtity activist. TO bad people like Obama ruined the name of Community activist with groups like ACORN. Fueling massive illegal voter registration. Also strong arming banks with race card tactics into giving home loans with my money deposted in banks to mostly blacks who in a thousand years could never pay them back and are now defaulting on them in record numbers creating the financial crisis we are in now
SO It was Obama and groups like ACORN who actually created the market mess

ACORN-GATE = OBAMA and third world country voter fraud.

Concerned in Ohio: “I don’t care what you partisan 0bama disciples say, his proposals are good.”
If you mean McCain’s proposals are good, you will need to be more specific. While Obama has had a consistent proposal (and detailed white papers on his website) for most of the race, McCain has thrown out many, often conflicting, soundbites. I haven’t see a detailed and consistent economic proposal from McCain yet (other than hiding his main economic adviser Mr. “whiners…mental recession” Gramm).
Posted by: jhw539 | Oct 14, 2008
10:56:55 AM
**Thank you jhw. People act like they can’t research the issues. Obama layed out a plan months ago thats why he’s winning the polls. People who are smart enough to know TV won’t give you all the information know where Obama stands with policies which he spends the majority of his time talking about instead of McCain who would rather attack characters (something he lacks). He should stop listening to the Bush campaign leaders and talk to us in very specific sentences what he plans to do in office. Not generalizations, PLANS! Actual plans that people can understand what in the world he’s talking about. Unfortunately, I’m not sure even McCain knows or he has a bad case of amnesia!
Sometimes you feel like a nut sometimes you feel like and ACORN.
Obama is was a communtity activist. TO bad people like Obama ruined the name of Community activist with groups like ACORN. Fueling massive illegal voter registration. Also strong arming banks with race card tactics into giving home loans with my money deposted in banks to mostly blacks who in a thousand years could never pay them back and are now defaulting on them in record numbers creating the financial crisis we are in now
SO It was Obama and groups like ACORN who actually created the market mess

It was Obama and groups like ACORN who actually created the market mess?
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Believe it not, this is what folks on FOX “NEWS” were trying to imply yesterday.
That the economic crisis was caused by ACORN.
They must assume that Pubs are all gullible lemmings. The FOX website is partial, but the TV news is sorediculously scewed to the point of being insulting.

Those whining about ACORN should explain how exactly “voter fraud” is going to happen.
No, not REGISTRATIONS, but VOTES?
So far there’s only been accusations. That’s it. But, assuming some hourly workers somewhere made mistakes or made a joke out of registrations, HOW will VOTER fraud occur????????
Look at reality instead of meaningless innuendo intentionally put out there to justify VOTER SUPPRESSION:
1) Newly registered voters MUST show an ID to vote. No ID, no vote.
2) ALL registrations are submitted to the states respective voting boards, BEFORE they are certified.
3) ACORN is REQUIRED to submit ALL registrations even if they know they are incorrect or fraudulent.
4) Of the people ACORN registered, 40% were REPUBLICAN.
5) John McCain previously supported ACORN and worked with them.
There are checks in place to prevent voter fraud. Anyone with ant snese knows this.
Voter suppression is MUCH more likely and has been used in the two previous elections. So quit playing with your nuts, and come back to reality.

“Obama: “It’s not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody that is behind you, that they have a chance for success too. I think that when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
That’s 0bama’s plan in a nutshell. Forcibly take from one group of people to give to another out of some absurd socialist notion of “economic justice”.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Oct 14, 2008 11:03:45 AM
** Better yet lets do nothing to fix it. That will work when you have nothing! No job no retirement no social security… thats stupid!

Those whining about ACORN should explain how exactly “voter fraud” is going to happen.
No, not REGISTRATIONS, but VOTES?
So far there’s only been accusations. That’s it. But, assuming some hourly workers somewhere made mistakes or made a joke out of registrations, HOW will VOTER fraud occur????????
Look at reality instead of meaningless innuendo intentionally put out there to justify VOTER SUPPRESSION:
1) Newly registered voters MUST show an ID to vote. No ID, no vote.
2) ALL registrations are submitted to the states respective voting boards, BEFORE they are certified.
3) ACORN is REQUIRED to submit ALL registrations even if they know they are incorrect or fraudulent.
4) Of the people ACORN registered, 40% were REPUBLICAN.
5) John McCain previously supported ACORN and worked with them.
There are checks in place to prevent voter fraud. Anyone with ant snese knows this.
Voter suppression is MUCH more likely and has been used in the two previous elections. So quit playing with your nuts, and come back to reality.
Posted by: Fact Check | Oct 14, 2008 11:05:31 AM
*I concur!

Carrie – I’m from Missouri, too, (St. Louis), and I don’t believe you’re right about Obama winning. I just don’t believe the polls. At any rate, you are right on about Steve Stengel and other Dems. We got his flyer at our house, and the first thing we noticed was the words “Conservative Democrat.” And I do remember Jay Nixon using that old McCain is Bush III nonsense, and then he suddenly dropped that line. At least I haven’t heard him use it in any of his ads or his speeches. Nixon knows how basically conservative Missourians are. Democrats in red states will never support the socialist agenda of Pelosi and Reid. Especially the House members because they are re-elected every couple of years. They’ll vote AGAINST their own party because they want to get re-elected in their conservative districts, like Mehlville, where Steve Stengel is running.

I know how to win the election for Obama. Any time someone tells the truth about Obama lets play the race card.

Virginians don’t like John McCain at this point believe me! he hasn’t even came to sw VA where most of his votes would come from yet Obama’s been all over the state. he won’t win VA because VA is for lovers and not idiots!

OBAMA and ACORN….Two nuts….in a nutshell. The Polls mean absolutely nothing and history shows that. How many of you here have been polled?
Probably no one.

Scotty, I’ve landed at the Republican Convention.
You can beam me up, there’s no intellegent life here.

Bush speaks almost every day about the economy for 3 weeks, the result is the market goes down.
Yesterday, Obama unveils his economic plan to help the middle class, the market skyrockets.
Today, McCain unveils his economic plan for Wall Street, the result ????
After watching McCain stumble through most of his prepared speeches, I’m guessing the market will drop today.

ACORN?? LOL…I guess the folks trying to tout ACORN as some kind of “bad thing” against Obama haven’t seen the video of McCain praising ACORN yet….LOL..yep, McCain said that ACORN was “what makes America special”.

Mccain has turned SOCIALIST!!

“Now that the economy is stable again, I have a plan to stablize it.”
A little late there “maverick”

When you have some real dirt on McCain and Palin. Please let me know.
Troopergate is a joke. But a reach for Democrats. Now, lets see if we can find anything on her family. Another reach.
There will be no dirt on them. The idiots who shout out crap about Cindy McCain stealing drugs…shouldn’t even have a right to vote.
Maybe you should have to take a test before you vote…that might rule out most of the uneducated Democrats rejoicing for change. They would vote for Scooby Doo…its a change.

OBAMA FEB 22, 2008
“In San Antonio on Tuesday, Obama said that Clinton’s foreclosure freeze was potentially “disastrous,” rewarding “people who made this problem worse” by benefiting banks that profit from high mortgage rates.
OBAMA OCT 14, 2008
“Obama Advocates Foreclosure Freeze”
What a jerk.

Sorry but your love for Bill Clinton does not mean that everything he did was Golden LOL Far from it though he did enact some great economic plans.
Obama will far exceed Clinton in the long run even if it is just by not putting the United States in a position to be red faced. In other words? Obama will be faithful to his wife.

Shame on you Jake. I am waiting for the follow-up on the Oregon yard sign bombings and the Joe Louis rematch video.

Why does the maverick have to always wait until after Obama makes a decision before he and the Rove team come up with their version of what do.They waited until Obama chose Biden then they chose Palin,now he comes up with his economic plan after Obama’s can they not think of anything to do without having to wait and see what the other team is doing this shows very poor leadership on their part.The maverick should be the one the one doing things first.The only thing they can do mavericky is try and smear someone image.

and to all those hating on my viewpoints… this is the reason why the republican ticket will not win! too busy trying to blame everyone else instead of looking in the mirror!

hp boston how is the election being stolen by acorn?
i have some pictures of john mccain hanging with acorn people… are they stealing the election for him too?
just because someone is registered they still have to confirm their address and place of residence or their names are taken out of the roles
sooo while payed people are inflating their registration numbers to get payed more, those registrees arent actually voting
unlike the republicans tried and true method of dead voters turning up to vote for their candidates

What kind of street slang is that? “hating on my viepoints”
Go back to school and learn how to speak.
and to all those hating on my viewpoints… this is the reason why the republican ticket will not win! too busy trying to blame everyone else instead of looking in the mirror!
Posted by: VA’s not voing McCain | Oct 14, 2008 11:59:15 AM

We cant believe anything McCain says – he changes every other day – McCain has become irrelevant. ………….

There is now evidence of VOTER FRAUD in the ACORN case.
New article out today says that one of the people registered by ACORN in Ohio, whose registration turned out to be fraudulent, showed up for early voting, and proceeded to cast his ballot, which was later cancelled.
He was also subpoenaed to testify at the hearings in Ohio yesterday and never appeared.
This guy was caught, but you can only wonder how many won’t be.

Obama/Biden is what will be good for us and our children.

SandyB
Can you tell me where I can find this story you speak of ??
“whose registration turned out to be fraudulent, showed up for early voting, and proceeded to cast his ballot, which was later cancelled.”
How can his registration be fraudulent ?
If he registered and its in his name how can it be fraudulent ?
“He was also subpoenaed to testify at the hearings in Ohio yesterday and never appeared.”
Why would he be subpoenaed to testify ?
If your “story” was true he wouldnt testify because he would be facing charges for comiting voter fraud!
So again show me this story or forever be known as a lair!

“So again show me this story or forever be known as a lair!”
It’s on today’s nypost site under their News tab.

also as anyone who has noticed lately people dont have to listen to subpoenas
todd palin didnt listen to his
karl rove ignored his
sarah palin ignored hers
i mean subpoena basically means nothing anymore

NY Post is a rag. No one should believe anything in it.

Suckers
You can judge the magnitude of the smashing defeat Republicans believe they are approaching by the scale of lying and bogus charges of vote fraud. But organized lying from partisans should not surprise us. What does deserve censure is how readily mainstream media organizations, including CNN, are picking up these bogus stories and running with them. We’d like to start calling them out. So please send us examples when you see them.
send examples to TPM

What kind of street slang is that? “hating on my viepoints”
Go back to school and learn how to speak.
and to all those hating on my viewpoints… this is the reason why the republican ticket will not win! too busy trying to blame everyone else instead of looking in the mirror!
Posted by: VA’s not voing McCain | Oct 14, 2008 11:59:15 AM
Posted by: darryl from indy | Oct 14, 2008 12:07:55 PM
**at least I can spell it! you can’t talk about the issues because you don’t know them. Or how to spell either. It’s sad… how old are you exactly?

What type of campaign says “since the economy is bad and we really don’t have an answer, we are going to attack Obama’s character because that will show we love America and all it stands for.”
Way to be country first… or not!
We want to hear about the issues and the middle class from Johnny McShame not his POW stories!

“this is the first time in my adult life I have “happy” with America”….
WOW…I cannot wait until she goes around spewing her hatred to American School Children across the nation and bullies her way around the nation as she did around the law firm she worked at. or rather pretended to work at…..
“Vote for the American Hero..not the anti-American Zero”

McCain + Keating + Fannie/Freddie lobbyists + Convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy + US Council on World Freedom and Iran/Contra + $214,000 contribution from Keating + wife’s money in AZ tied to mob + junkets to Bahama’s estate of Keating + against GI Bill + 17 votes in 5 years for deregulation + 90% voting record with Bush + Palin’s abuse of power = CORRUPTION

In 2006, McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN convention in FL

ZERO foreign policy experience + Trip to Kenya to help campaign so that his murderous cousin get elected to a govermental position + Voted against the surge + voted agaisnt funding of our troops + No idea that Russia has VETO power + Voted 94% with Democrats + Vote to increase taxes on those making $42,000 + voted 94 times to either increase taxes or not cut taxes + voted against the born-alive-act + Member of the New Socials Group + Allocating $50 millions to radicalize education with Ayers + Joe Biden and his plaerism while in office and law school (we will say this includs Biden’s IGNORANCE all together)Ayers + Rev. Wright + (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) + ACORN + Giving $800,000 to ACORN for what appears to be committing fraud/forgery + Farrakhan + Rezko + Raines + Khali Al-Mansour + Communist Frank Marshall Davis + Rashi Khalidi + Refusal to show full length vault copy of Birth Certificate + Refusal to prove he is no longer an Indonesian Citizen + Refusal to show college transcripts to prove he actually graduate from college denoting his grades + Refusal to show thesis (which is something America will not appreciate from what I hear) + Michele Obama and her racists comments + Michelle Obama “for the first time “being proud” of America in her adult life”=
Shady Character/Liar/Deceitful/Untrsutwrothy/
Dangerous/Criminal Like Behavior….etc…etc..
LOL…….Yes….shall we keep going with Obama’s record, or lack off…..I need to take a friggin break from listing ALL the reasons Obama is dangerous for this country….I eagerly await your reply, of course!

It’s sooooo sad to see so many blue collar workers supporting Mcain. I say IF McCain wins, it will be interesting to see these same workers scrambling for jobs like roaches once the lights are turned on.

Unpolitically correct – Why don’t you just keep the same moniker? It’s so much easier. I’m not sure where you’re from and I’m sure it’s a nice place, but we don’t keep our birth certificates in vaults here. We don’t have reliqueries like they do in the Vatican vaults (although Gd knows what the with hunter Palins have) and generally vaults are where we put the ashes of our deceased. We usually keep our birth certificates in our desks, or sometimes at the bank.
This also has absolutely nothing to do with John McCain’s 30th economic plan in 30 days. Who is coming up with these? Meghan?