Will McCain-Palin Be Keystoned?

I believe the media says that three weeks is a lifetime in politics because they want us keep tuning in. They want a close race. They want drama.
I for one am tired of it.

McCain & Palin will most certainly lose in Pennsylvania, as they have nothing to offer anyone except threats, lies and innuendo.
They will also lose as they have crazy people on their side like:
In case you missed it over the weekend, a minister who gave the invocation at a McCain rally in Iowa couched his prayer in terms I’ve never heard before:
God’s own reputation is at stake in this election, he said, because so many Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists around the world are praying for an Obama victory that if Obama wins, they’ll think “their god is bigger” than the Christian god.

I live in PA and i can assure you he will never WIN THIS STATE! PA FOR OBAMA/BIDEN08

Mccain/palin = Continue to give to corporations and rich, trickle down, tax healthcare, privatize socia security, ? Are we that stupid? Its not working.
Obama/Biden 08

ha ha ha mccain says it is the fringe element spewing the hate ——is that what he calls cindy and palin—the fringe element–this guy would throw his mother under the bus

Only poll that counts is on 11-4-2008
Exit question: What else would the MSM have to write about if not for the twisting and changing polls…sheesh

That’s embarrassing for McCain, a man who was tortured for our freedoms, and served the country with honor, but Palin on the other hand is unqualified and uses her power for personal gains, just shameful.

hey angie
it would have been very interesting if cindy and palin went to phila.county instead of lehigh spewing the obama terrorist crap—very interesting indeed.

I believe they mean don’t count your chickens before they hatch.
Obama/Biden

Reuters polls is BS. They have the Democratic sample in their polls only 1 point higher than the Republican sample. That’s insane. They also have Obama leading by 17 points amongst Independents and only leading by 4 points? That’s insane. If Obama wins independents by 17 points, he will win this eelction by 10 points minimum. There is at least a 6 point edge in Democratic affiliation. Reuters needs to adjust that idiot poll they have.

Jeanie
A Republican President is the one currently socializing our businesses and banks. You hypocrite. You socialize the United States with your disastrous policies,a dn turn around and call Democrats socialists. We gave you Clinton (the height of American capitalism) and you clowns gave us Bush (an under-cover socialist).

Jeanie
I do recall that the last 8 years is what ended up leaving us heading for socialism.
I do believe that America has for 8 years…not been the America that my ancestors fought for in every war including the revolution that this country has seen.
I do believe that America is better than the policies and right wing indignation and spin that we have been stuck in for the last 8 tragic years.
I do believe that most of America is waking up to the fact that the right wing hijacked this country and has almost destroyed it in 8 years.
so get off of it
the same team
the same tactics
won’t work anymore.

di
i can assure that afewc new billionairs were made the last 8 years,and we paid the corrupt price.

McCain/Palin:
Penn. welcomes you.

Then I guess the election is over. ABC’s work is done in PA. The voters are sure Obama is going to redestribute the wealth to them post haste. Voters in PA sold their children’s future for a measly stimulous check and a bunch of empty promises. When the bush tax cuts expire perhaps they won’t think that is a tax increase. Snake oil sells well in PA.

i’m from Scranton PA, and can tell you, mccain is TOAST!

ubu1991
Stop talking nonsense. We are in debt now because Bush refused to let go of the tax cut during the war. First of all the tax cuts only benefits the rich, second of all he gives tax cuts to the middle class. The tax cuts were meant to be temporary and now someone has to pay the price. Maybe you should gamble with McCain and hope you don’t lose your job because he sucks at the economy.

A lot of our current problems can be traced back to Reagan. For one thing he was opposed to govt regulations. He gave speeches saying that govt needed to get out of the way of business, to let them do what they do so well. This hands off approach become the prevalent strategy of Republicans in their rhetoric and their actions. Can you even remember the last time the govt stopped a merger, or broke up a monopoly?
Reagan also laid the groundwork for all of the attacks on anything “liberal”. It’s gotten so bad that some on the right spew hatred as part of every issue. There are posts in this thread suggesting that Obama will redistribute all wealth, and that he’s holding meetings with criminals and campaigning in Kenya. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP! We face enough problems without fanning the flames of hate against our fellow Americans.

Posted by: earthisnotflat | Oct 13, 2008 7:12:17 PM
I’ll bet. But I am voting for Obama…lol

For a good chunk of the 20th century, the highest income bracket federal income tax exceeded 70% (1936-1980) with the top years during WW2 being 94%.
So before you go crying socialism because of a moderate tax hike on the ultra-rich, you may want to do some comparisons.

mccain has always been a millionare……..you think he really understands what NOT having money for food and gasoline means?!?!?!

Penn. had Paterno???? Who cares??? He and McCain need to hit the rocking chairs.
Good bye, geezers…
Hello youth!
Go Obama!

Funny now Mcain is starting to bash bush saying My Friends we cant have the next 4 years like the last laughing out loud hahahahahahahah looks like Mccain is stealing the Dems lines too funny!

“Keystoned”, is that the same as branded a “liar”?

Rodney
Palin and cindy know what areas to spew their hate in the Mccain campaign only go to the conservitave ares of the states they should try philly hahahah

Don’t count on an easy ride. Kerry got swiftboated after he was up in the polls. They will drag out the sleazy slimy groups to fool people once again. count on it

Bob S., yes, the lies and smears will be ramped up over the next three weeks. I don’t think any of us Obama supporters are taking anything for granted and I know the Obama campaign is not.

Dont worry first of all Obama is not Kerry, Kerry let them swiftboat him The Obama campaign is prepared for whatever comes their way!

What I’m saying is…the mass redistribution won’t end at the rich. It will come from the middle class as well.
We dont’ have the resources the rich do, to get their money into other protections, such as foreign accounts, and other types of money market investments. They are hiding their wealth right now….so when that river runs dry, taxing the wealthy…the middle class is next. Despite the promise of not being taxed.

liz
he also met with mccain and palin.

This doesn’t surprise me. I’m from Pensylvania, and we hate pathological liars like Sara Palin and John McCain.

Hello youth!
If the intellect and integrity of the supporters is an indication of the character and quality of the candidate, the outcome is not in doubt.

jeanie
do you mean the middle class that mccain says make under 5 million a year—-however the middle class have very little as we PAY ALL THE BILLS AT THIS POINT.

NMG
I have worked in 5 diferent polling firms and both parties as well as news orgnizations and non-profits do plenty of polling. Some show favoritism and some don’t but I would have to agree with you about a lot of fraud involved with polling fairly equal on bith sides. Then there are polls called “push polls” in which the make outrageous claims about one candidate. The worst “push polls” I have ever seen where done by the 2000 bush campaign during the primary against John McCain. And this year the same people that wrote those polls against McCain are working for McCain and pushing some very inflammatory statements about Obama. I’m sure there are similar polls being done by the Obama campaign but I haven’t personally seen them.
Write in Ron Paul for President

T Boone is thinking about one thing . Making money. He wants to corner the market on wind and solar because he knows fossil fuels are D.O.A.

sophia – obama will get much more than 273 electoral votes, he will get at least 50 more than that… at least

I consider myself a fairly accomplished person. I have a Bachelor’s degree and have credits toward a Master’s degree. Every managerial position that I have held required at least a B.A. (or B.S.), along with additional training in the area. I say this to say that, as a society, once we demanded excellence of anyone in a position of responsibility. Now, I find it interesting (and curious) that in this election, excellence is what most people seem to scorn. When did intelligence become a liability? When did ignorance become an asset? I find it unconscionable that we do not demand more from our journalists, our leaders and ourselves.

RODNEY
I wonder why no one wants to talk about firs dudes association with the Alaska Independent party and how those people hate America! and the Gov did a fundraiser for them and told them to keep up the good work why does noone want to talk about that but harp on lies and mistruths about Obama?

There is going to be two or more supreme court vacancies in the next four years. If the Republicans win this country would take shape and become a theocracy. Palin would love that.

Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps– these are all forms of Socialism, “spreading the wealth around”. We have had aspects of Socialism in our country since the 1930′s.
As for plumbers, anybody had to hire a good plumber recently? Ouch. Average middle class Joe Six-Packs they’re not.

In view of the The Morning Call/Muhlenberg College tracking poll’s track record of success in picking Presidents, I am sure that McCain is drafting his concession speech as we speak……

Will this be followed by a McCain-Palin pull-out? They need to focus on red states like NC and Indiana more than lost cause locales like Virginia and Penna.

wasilla
i constantly wonder how palins can have assets that are 20 times their income –the numbers dont work.
Posted by: rodney | Oct 13, 2008 7:57:14 PM
It’s those Alaskan calculators…wink wink

Boy, what a disappointment for all the media types who are counting on a close race to help sell papers.
Obama bomaye!
(cf. Ali vs. Foreman)

McCain says Obama is right where he wants him. I believe this is true. Based on recent history with McCain campaign I think as soon as the economic crisis hit he decieded he didn’t want to be president anymore because he knows he can’t handle the job.

answer to jim d. gutter tactics for what, for telling the truth? we are concerned about obamas associates. and we do want to know who this man is.

If you don’t want to pay federal income taxes you don’t have to. I bet many of you didn’t know that. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong on this.
——————-
Tell that to Willie Nelson.
I sure hope you don’t work as an tax attorney!
Yah, you don’t HAVE to pay taxes. However, the IRS can take EVERYTHING you have, garish your wages, penalize you, and ruin your life.
Ever hear of AlCapone? Went to jail for murder? No. TAX EVASION!
I challenge you to prove ME wrong on that.

Both Sarah Palin and John McCain should have even worst ratings!! These two enticed crowd rage with shouts of “kill him”, “off with his head”, “traitor”. “treason”, “Muslim”, “Arab”, etc. Tis is dangerous and violence has already started!! Enticing assassination is despicable!! What else do you expect since both have found guilty of abuse of power by violating Ethics Laws!! This is a first two corrupt abuse of power politicians on same ticket!! Sarah Palin even has audacity to lie and say she was cleared of anything unethical!!!

30,000 people came to see Gov. Palin in Richmond!!! these polls and actuall rallies don’t match.
GOP has never seen these kind of crowd for their rallies…

30,000 people came to see Gov. Palin in Richmond!!! these polls and actuall rallies don’t match.
GOP has never seen these kind of crowd for their rallies…
Posted by: frieda | Oct 13, 2008 8:49:36 PM
That’s because in 3 weeks they won’t see her on the national stage any more. She will be banished back to Alaska, thank God.

Why did ABC News cut from Obama’s discussion about higher taxes with the plumber who wanted to go into business for himself and was going to make over 250,000.00 a year. You didn’t show the folks the good parts…like Obama telling this guy that “the people below him needed a chance for success, too.” And guess who was going to foot the bill? ABC and the rest never tell the whole story about Obama, hence the poll numbers, which are probably scewed to favor Obama, too.

Todd Palin told Fox News that he built the 3,450 square-foot, half million dollar home himself with the help of some “buddies.” Since Sarah Palin blocked an effort to require the filing of building permits as mayor of Wasilla, there is no record of who Todd’s “buddies” were.
Coincidentally, at the same time that Todd and his “buddies” were building the Palin house, the $12.5 million dollar Wasilla sports complex and hockey rink was under construction right down the road.
The architect who was awarded the $12.5 million sports complex, Blase Burkhart, is the son of Roy Burkhart, a Palin campaign contributor and the head of the local Republican party. Additionally, several of the subcontractors on the sports complex – including Spenard Builders Supply – were also contributors to Palin’s campaign.
In addition to contributing to Palin’s political campaign, Spenard Builders Supply happens to be the sponsor of Todd Palin’s snow-machine team. Atoine Bricks, a Spenard Builders Supply employee, stated that Spenard supplied the materials for the Palin house. If the Spenard name sounds familiar, that’s because they are one of the contractors that worked on Senator Ted Stevens house.
Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens was indicted recently, for accepting $250,000 worth of free renovations to his house from oil pipeline company VECO. Spenard Builders Supply is one of the contractors that worked on Stevens house.
Palin worked on Senator Ted Steven’s 527 group. Palin’s name is listed on 2003 incorporation papers of the “Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.,” a 527 group that could raise unlimited funds from corporate donors. The group was designed to serve as a political boot camp for Republican women in the state. She served as one of three directors until June 2005, when her name was replaced on state filings.

* 1: Number of times Barack Obama has run for president of the United States.
* 1: Number of times Barack Obama has been married.
* 2: Number of times John McCain has run for president of the United States.
* 2: Number of times McCain has been married.
* 5: Number of military aircraft McCain lost as a naval aviator. Only 2 accidents were officially deemed his fault.
* 5: Number of U.S. Senators – including John McCain – in the Keating 5 Scandal, part of the U.S. Savings & Loan Crisis of the 1980′s and 90′s which is estimated to have totaled around $160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.
* 10: Amount in U.S. dollars we are paying per person per day to 70,000 former Iraqi insurgents, including al-Qaida in Iraq members, to stop shooting at our soldiers.
* 12: Number of U.S. Army captains that served in Iraq and advised the White House in October last year that we will have to reinstate the draft in America to succeed in Iraq.
* 18: Number of U.S. military veterans that commit suicide per day.
* 20: Percentage McCain received – 20% out of 100% – from Disabled Veterans of America for his voting record on veterans’ issues.
* 47: Number of candles Obama will need on his birthday cake on August 4, 2008.
* 72: Number of candles McCain will need on his birthday cake on August 29, 2008.
* 80: Percentage Obama received – 80% out of 100% – from Disabled Veterans of America for his voting record on veterans’ issues.
* 95: Percentage of McCain’s votes – 95% – that agreed with President George W. Bush in 2007. Reported by Congressional Quarterly.
* 100: Percentage of McCain’s votes – 100% – that agreed with President George W. Bush in 2008 as of May 15. Reported by Congressional Quarterly.
* 580: Number of U.S. soldiers killed so far in Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Updated August 25, 2008.
* 894: Class rank of McCain at his graduation from Annapolis – out of 899 cadets that year.
* 1,173: Number of pages in McCain’s medical history over an eight year period, from 2000-2008.
* 1,721: Amount in U.S. dollars the Iraq war has cost per American so far.
* 4,151: Number of U.S. soldiers killed so far in Iraq since the war began. Updated September 3, 2008.
* 23,157: Amount in U.S. dollars McCain received in Social Security in 2007.
* 58,358: Amount in U.S. dollars McCain received, tax-free, as disability pension in 2007 from the Navy at a rate of 100%.
* 86,795: Number of documented Iraqi civilian deaths since the war began. Updated September 3, 2008.
* 341,400,000: Amount in U.S. dollars that it costs per day for the war in Iraq.

Is Sen. John McCain’s plan to help homeowners illegal? He wants the government to buy mortgages directly from banks at face value and then renegotiate their terms. Many economically savvy readers, as well as the Obama campaign, contend that the TARP explicitly prohibits the government from purchasing most mortgages at face value because to do so would violate the law’s taxpayer protection mechanisms.

GOP Prepares to BORROW AND SPEND :-)
The Republican National Committee, growing nervous over the prospect of Democrats’ winning a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, is considering tapping into a $5 million line of credit this week to aid an increasing number of vulnerable incumbents, top Republicans say.
With party strategists fearing a bloodbath at the polls, GOP officials are shifting to triage mode, determining who can be saved and where to best spend their money.
And with the House and Senate Republican campaign committees being drastically outspent by their Democratic counterparts, and outside group such as Freedom’s Watch offering far less help than was once anticipated, Republicans are turning to the national party committee as a lender of last resort.

So, we won’t see the Second Coming of George W. Bush? -
“I used to call it [McCain laughs] the Czech Republic. As you know, it’s been, um, a very staunch ally and friend. And as you know, the Czech Republic and Slovakia split years ago, and from time to time, [McCain laughs again] some of us, uh, mistate and say Czechoslovakia when in fact it’s the Czech Republic.”

“OBAMA’s Tax Plan exposed by the Wall Street Journal: Nothing more than Welfare for those who don’t work”
I just read the article and it’s total bogus. No wonder, for one of those anonymous articles in WSJ’s OPINION section. Please check the actual figures elsewhere to compare.

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. When they actually vote Mr Obama in will I believe we are headed in the right direction. Let’s wait and see.

McCain recycled a lot of some GOP convention speech lines today, in his “new” stump speech.
One of them: “We never hide from history. We make history.”
If Barack Obama would be elected President this year, Americans certainly will have made history. Even more, America would be the driving force of world history again.
It’s pretty impossible to convince anyone that the same would be true if McCain would become POTUS.

THE NEW PALIN SCANDAL IS COMING TO TOWN!
Here’s part of it:
Todd Palin told Fox News that he built the 3,450 square-foot, half million dollar home himself with the help of some “buddies.” Since Sarah Palin blocked an effort to require the filing of building permits as mayor of Wasilla, there is no record of who Todd’s “buddies” were.
Coincidentally, at the same time that Todd and his “buddies” were building the Palin house, the $12.5 million dollar Wasilla sports complex and hockey rink was under construction right down the road.
The architect who was awarded the $12.5 million sports complex, Blase Burkhart, is the son of Roy Burkhart, a Palin campaign contributor and the head of the local Republican party. Additionally, several of the subcontractors on the sports complex – including Spenard Builders Supply – were also contributors to Palin’s campaign.
In addition to contributing to Palin’s political campaign, Spenard Builders Supply happens to be the sponsor of Todd Palin’s snow-machine team. Atoine Bricks, a Spenard Builders Supply employee, stated that Spenard supplied the materials for the Palin house. If the Spenard name sounds familiar, that’s because they are one of the contractors that worked on Senator Ted Stevens house.
Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens was indicted recently, for accepting $250,000 worth of free renovations to his house from oil pipeline company VECO. Spenard Builders Supply is one of the contractors that worked on Stevens house.
Palin worked on Senator Ted Steven’s 527 group. Palin’s name is listed on 2003 incorporation papers of the “Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.,” a 527 group that could raise unlimited funds from corporate donors. The group was designed to serve as a political boot camp for Republican women in the state. She served as one of three directors until June 2005, when her name was replaced on state filings.

GOP deadenders – Nyahahahahahaha!

Mary you don’t make sense
40% of 95% of the people that pay taxes don’t pay taxes. Are you a loan officer or something because that is some very fuzzy math. In other word it doesn’t add up.

” 40% of 95% of the people that pay taxes don’t pay taxes.”
Please reread that. One of the most amazing statements I ever read. Could have been a Palin answer to a Couric question.
” 40% of 95% of the people that drive cars don’t drive cars.”

As a republican I aske the GOP is Sarah palin the best we can do???? Sarah or should I say clueless Sarah has and is a joke. This women is simply not fit for this important role, the VP of this great nation. Are we kidding!! I just dont see no one with a brain voting for this ticket. McCain will offer nothing but continue the same fail policys of te bush era. Folks the reeason McCain is loosing ground bug time is that America does not want another bush term and that is what McCain will bring. I alos know for a fact that many of moderate republicans who I spoke with said that they dont liek Sarah Palin in part becouse she is cluelees an is not ready. If McCain dies, this women can me our next president, thats scary!! This is what lots of people are saying. I tell you I was at one of Sarah Palins rally here in Florida and the women sounded dummer thatn dumb. I also was amazed how many people were out in the streets protesting here visit. I urge all Americans to vote smart this time around. Theres no reason for anyone to vote for McCain/Palin. As a moderate republican I urge all to cast your vote for the best team…Obama/Biden. What we need is a better candidate nest time around in 2012. First we start with a better candidate and a far better VP choice. I hope we start recovering and keep it that way…If we elect McCain we will face another blow to the economy and thats a fact. McCain is so stupid he wants to tax helath care…Talk about lowering your taxes. The man is too erratic.

The Obama campaign makes no sense at all with their statement they cannot envision a real path to the nomination for McCain without the Republican winning Pennsylvania. McCain already has the nomination. So does Obama. Boneheaded Obama campaign that is.

Pennsylvania does not want 4 more years of Bush.

Please report all of the lies you say are being said about BHO relationships with various individuals and organizations. Tell us the lies you keep talking about. By the way have you read his books? Much of what is being said about him is in his own books. In your closed mind these are probably lies.

Unless they don’t care about the economy, PA goes to Obama. In McCain’s “new new” stump speech, he talks about himself, not the economy. He’s a fighter (we got that already). It isn’t enough in these times.

mulligan
if the stock market stays up it goes back to beiong about Obamas character …its been to easy for Obama

staniam, if the stock market stays up we’re still all down about 15%. keep dreamin’.

Please, God, let them spend all of the rest of the race in PA. Please, please, please. Here’s what PA voters see: a clueless and doddering Arizona septugenarian and his pathologically lying holy roller running mate.
Please, God, let them wreck themselves in the hamlets of upper Appalachia, which will probably get as sick of them as the rest of us are. Please. I beg you.
Amen

Westcoastmessenger:
Sigh. So sad to see you on the side of that doddering fool and his ethically challenged mean girl, entirely out of spite. Come on: I know you’re not really a Republican. I guess it’s telling that your rants are getting a little weak. Why not do what HRC is doing: back Obama!

mulligan
538 and pollster and also rans RCP and MSNBC CNN etc have him at 264 if you are including tos up states that might go to obama then maybe but they all arent going to go to obama you just have to hope they do

“if the stock market stays up it goes back to beiong about Obamas character …its been to easy for Obama ”
Let’s hope so! Every time McCain does negative attacking, Obama’s gains in the polls!
In case you didn’t know it. Last weekend the economy is saved from a meltdown by the Europeans, they put 2.3 trillion to keep the banking system rolling again.
Bush and Paulson were also present on the G7, but you might as well send Joe Sixpack.
Vote for Obama if you care for your job or business.

staniam, do tell. how is obama like bush and rove? wow. this is your best I’m guessin’.

Based on my observations over 40 years of political campaigns:
Whenever a candidate or his campaign starts saying “The only poll that counts is the one on Election Day,” it means that candidate is losing big-time.
It’s the last refuge of the desperate.

staniam: “John Kerry was up by more in the last three weeks this time in 2004″
You just don’t really care what the truth is, do you?

Jock
thats the truth all Im saying is dont be overconfident because Im certainly not goign to help you and you prob need my vote in NC

staniam
This is the truth
Bush was ahead most of the month of October, with a couple of days with Kerry ahead by 1 or 2

This is like listening to a news talk show reublican blame democrats and democrats blame republicans. Yet nobody take any of the blame and they are all responsible. I think it is time to get rid of any politician who has been in office for six or more years. I blame the greed and feeling of entitlement that is widespread across both parties.
staniam
I would like to know your opinion on this hypothetical senario:
If a guy that works in the same company as you held a party you went to and gave you a beer. You find out 10 years ago he slept with an underage girl. Does hat means you pal around with pedophiles?

ZERO of the 83 electoral vote projection sites out there show or predict a win for McCain.
ALL show that Obama is winning this race. About 60 indicate that it will be an Obama landslide.
But sure, the fight continues.
Nov 4 will be Obama’s knock out blow to McCain and Palin.

Pollster has Florida at Obama+7, which even I find hard to believe. RCP has it at Obama +5

staniam
I would like to know your opinion on this hypothetical senario:
If a guy that has worked in the same company as you for 3 years held a party you went to and gave you a beer. You find out 10 years ago he slept with an underage girl. Does hat means you pal around with pedophiles?

Kottaras: “Obama-Biden will do little to enhance the US image either within the US or abroad.”
Then why is the rest of the world holding its breath that America will come to its senses and elect Obama?

ALWAYS TAKE NOTE: SILENT MAJORITY MATTERS AND NOT THE SURVEY BY THE ELITE MEDIA. THINK ABOUT THE ELECTION FRAUD BY ACCORN THAT IS INFLUENCE BY LEFT WING DEMOCRAT HEADED BY OBAMA. THINK ABOUT HIS MAFIA CONNECTIONS. THINK ABOUT YOUR FUTURE. DO YOU WANT AMERICAN TO BE LIKE THE ROMAN EMPIRE THAT WAS DESTROYED FROM WITHIN BY ELITISM, CORRUPTION AND SINFUL WAYS LIKE SAME SEX RELATIONSHIP?
Posted by: Melissa | Oct 13, 2008 11:21:03 PM
Do you people really believe this crap? Now Obama has connections with the Mafia? I think you have that mistaken with Cindy McCain.
WE are thinking about our future, that’s why are voting for Obama.

I think the day McCain picked up Wasilla lipstick Palin, his campaign was literally over.
With an idiot like Palin around, anyone is bound to fail.
So, Great McCain fell flat. He should have picked Romney to talk about the economic mess.
McCain has no good judgement and it proved wrong again!!!

I met a republican who said that John McCain choosing Sarah Palin would help Obama in the long run and guess what? It has!

The only reason peoplechange the chanel from CNN MSNBC and ABC to FAUX NOISE is because it is funnier than comedy central. Papa Bear (I talk loud so i must be right) O’reilly is the funniest person in the world followed by Hannity.

The Obama campaign has been the diriest, most corrupt in the last 100 years but he is talking and winning over the weak minded–those who want something for nothing and the redistribution of wealth–take from those who worked hard and saved their money, creative wealth and new jobs and give to those who do little for themselves or society except create more children other people must support.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are looking at socialism square in the face and it is ugly.
The McCain/Palin campaign believe in self-reliance and the Constitution, not free handouts.
Obama’s associations and political agenda are wrong for the USA.

Mary
WHO beleives in the Constitution?
Obama was a constitutional lawyer and professor.
John McCain doesn’t even seem to believe in habeas corpus.

Folks, you are right–I had a gaffe like Obama and his 57 states and fallen heroes in his audience. My statement about the taxes was incorrect. Truth–only 45% of the people pay income taxes-40% do not pay income taxes but Obama is going to save income taxes for them also. It is still fuzzy math. OK

Mary,
We are looking at stupidity square in the face and it is frightening.
Our welfare has declined in the last 8 years, the dollar is now worthless and the deficit is sky high.
History has shown democrat presidents are fiscal more conservative then republican presidents.

Mary, Republicans in politics are all smoke and mirrors. They have to use wedge issues to distract you so they can continue the gravy train. People are so ignorant about this and I just don’t get it. Gays,Guns and God and you have millions roped in from those three alone.

Enough with the Roman Empire already. Obama is accountable for himself. Not everything done by groups or people he’s worked with or he’s had little contact with. If that’s how your going to base your vote, then take a good look at everybody McCain has ever been associated with, attended a fund raiser with, and every commitee he’s been on and everyone that has served in the senate for the last 38 years. Then place their guilt on him.

Well, I agree partially.. Barack Obama is liberal and I don’t agree on all the issues. I don’t believe that government can fix all problems.
However McCain/Palin are running a campaign to stupid for words. It’s not my kind of leadership, erratic stunts, sixpack gimmicks, winks.
Rather an intelligent liberal then a republican that sold his soul to extreme right-wing nutcases.

Mary:
“Truth–only 45% of the people pay income taxes-40% do not pay income taxes but Obama is going to save income taxes for them also. It is still fuzzy math. OK”
Not only that… Obama is going to PAY income taxes … the ones you and the very rich will be donating…. to the 40 percent who don’t pay ANY taxes at all at all…..
Talk about fizzzzzzyyyyyy fuzzy math.
Now THAT’s Democracy!
You get to vote for this!

If you want Obama to be president go vote early most people do not realize the kind of language that is being spoken in churches most pastors are convinced tht obama is not a christian and our openly endorsing obama’s alternative, republicans know how to win elections cos they know how to involve churches into political discourse, media polls have been wrong before in 04 john kerry who was regarded as the favourite lost to idiot bush repubs specifically target their base by character assasination of their opponent.

Don’t worry Jaime…when we pull the curtain no one will know who we vote for. And not all of us who attend church are unable to think for ourselves. The radical and conservative Christians will always vote republican.Or they don’t vote at all.

Bea:
Obama wrote two semi-autobiographical novels!
That was all the information anyone had about him when he began his campaign!
Maybe he should BE a writer!
He certainly is creative.
In fact the only characteristic Obama has which is greater than his skill as a wordsmith….. is his outrageously grandiose ego, followed by his outsized ears.

So I guess only really old people have experience. Sometimes it’s not about what a person has done, but the possibilities of what they can do. And just think, it’s not going to take him 40 years to accomplish something really big. And unlike Bush, I bet Obama reads the newspapers and internet as much as he writes.

“Enough with the Roman Empire already. Obama is accountable for himself”….
Yes, Bea. Indeed he is!
So why is he so scared of acknowledging the depth of his associations with these people…. even after the proof of the pudding (and of his past) is placed on a platter in front of his skinny face!
Whe that happens, what does Obama do?
Why he hits the denial button and tosses them al under the bus… like he did Jeremiah the second time around, and Rezko (who brought him B I G bucks), and his “typical white Grandmother”… the one who raised him, and, now Ayers.
Have any of you heard how Obama won his elections in Illinois?
Not one of them was “clean”…..
An addendum:
Thank you Mary, for doing your homework ;-)

Posted by: hannah | Oct 14, 2008 12:41:23 AM
Sure Obama was 8 when Ayres was bombing the capital but he was 40 when Ayres gave the interview in Chicago Magazine standing on the American flag. I can’t excuse Obama for hanging around with Ayres after that. Ayres was standing on the Flag too. Must have given Obama cause for pause but it didn’t. After Rev. Wright, and we know he is anti-American, and now Ayres, I’m really suspicious of him. I love America and I feel like I would have to hate America to vote for him.

“For your information.. McCain was never cleared of any wrongdoing.” crabs
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Of course he was!
Are you talking about the Keating 5?
McCain was cleared of everything but a judgement error.
In fact the only ones who were found guilty… were the Democrats!
The difference between McCain and Obama is that whereas Obama always denies his associations with people who might be considered politically incorrect, Mccain doesn’t.
I like that in a man!

Yes,Hannah, thinking people can see through the smokescreen. But you and I mean different things by that. To me, the smokescreen is Obama’s slippery response to people pointing out that so many of his associates are, to put it mildly, shady. Rezko, WRight, Ayers, Dorhn, Daley, etc. — one dubious associate would be something we could overlook, but there’s a pattern here. And part of the pattern is not only that Obama associates with these people when it is politically expedient but that he then distances himself when it is no longer helpful to his career to acknowledge the connections. His changing stories about Ayers (like earlier stories about Rezko and Wright)make my head spin, and hurt.

Oh really?
McCain “palls” around with a Watergate burglar, I believe. He has yet to renounce his associations with said burglar involved in the Watergate scandal. How about Sarah Palin giving a speech to the AIP ? Or her husband being a former member of said party? Or how about McCain’s questionable judgement, in extension, of picking someone who was associated in some way to the AIP?
And McCain was not “exonerated” or anything in the Keating 5. He just ESCAPED criminal charges, and was reprimanded very harshly by the US Senate Ethics Committee.
If McCain/Palin want to employ this guilt by association rubbish, we should hold them to the same standards. And in this case, they were FAR more involved with some far more shady people.

Bill Ayers was anti-vietnam war and people who have lived during the late 60s also remember that people used to pack protests around the pentagon during which police baton charged families who were protesting draft a young girl was killed in front of pentagon bill ayers served on the annenberg board who is a republican he was set free when republicans were in power it was the republicans who cut and run from vietnam moderate seeing your boat sinking you are now twisting obama’s tax policy which are directed towards lower and middle class but promises is the guy who really is hillarious what he said association denial stuff i have a republican primary2000 vdo of mccain denouncing falwell robertson and recently attending their seminars you supporters are just like who you support erratic.

promises..One other question. And be honest. What did you really know about John McCain before he started his run? I knew he was a POW. And I remember watching him on TV when he was released. That was it. And how much do we really know about any person? It’s all political. There’s so much bad information floating around out there and even on the news. What ever happened to the news? And with the internet and blogs. Anybody could say anything about anybody and twist it around and make implications and the seeds of deceit are sown. And what do we know about Palin? I only know what I’ve seen in clips of her rallies. And even if they are taken out of context, it’s pretty hard to swallow.
Bea, what do we know about Obama, really. People keep asking questions about his grades in College, where he got the money to go, where is is thesis from Harvard and why isn’t there any articles written by him for the Law Review at Harvard. He was the first black president so he must have had something to say about it. And then there’s that elusive “vault” birth certificate that no one has seen. They aren’t satisfied with the Birth Registration because that’s done anytime after birth and means the birth wasn’t attended or at a hospital. I guess there could have been a mid-wife but it would say that. I wonder why he’s just not turning all this over. What does he have to hide? and what could it hurt. It would stop all the talk.

moderate.We will agree to disagree. Have you ever met a perfect politician? One who is free of “associations”? I’ve never seen one. Imagine, a politician using people to further his career. Shocking. Unlike other politicians that use their daddy’s name or military service to further their career. I really don’t care about his associations. there is dirt everywhere. I really don’t understand what people think he would do if he became president. Round us up and shoot us? Is a difference in policy. And if the only way you can justify voting for McCain after the last 8 years is to falsify your fear, then have at it. Right now, I have to go to work, for the second time today.

If Obama is so up in Pennsylvania, then why is he campaignly furiously and feverishly there?
Obama is spending a lot of time and money there.
Could it be that many Pennsylvania residents will not vote for Obama who call them ‘bitter’,'clinging to guns and religion’?
If Obama thinks himself as superior to Pennsylvanians, he cannot expect their votes.

The only person that has “badmouthed Cindy McCain” is JOHN HIMSELF. Campaigning in the late nineties, he called his wife a “unt” with a “C” in front of four reporters. He was “tired”, poor thing! Guess he won’t ever be tired as president. That kind of slur is unforgivable. Obama wouldn’t say that to Michael in a million years. He’s a gentleman first and foremost. McCain was even called “McNasty” in high school and has said horrible things to his fellow Senators. I don’t want someone like this as my president!

So much discussion is raging about “what’s the big deal about Obama’s association with a former terrorist” that I feel I need to find time to chime in. It is not the fact that Obama had an association in this decade with a man who committed such heinous crimes in the past that is troubling. Ayers should be persona non grata throughout the US, but he isn’t and that is what it is. What matters is that Ayers’ actions, both in the distant past and the recent past as well as in the present, reflect his world view. He is a radical leftist who wants to change the way America works– how we educate our children, how we dispense criminal justice, how we interact with the rest of the world. I do not agree with his views on these issues. I do not expect that Obama agrees with every detail of every view of every person he associates with. However, he wrote a blurb for a controversial book written by Ayers, so I assume he agrees with the views on the criminal justice system within that book. He served on a board giving out grants for education-related projects with Ayers, so I assume he agrees with Ayers in general terms on his educational philosophy. These are the facts related to his association with Ayers that trouble me. Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist and should be a social pariah but what matters in my judgment of the presidential candidates is that Ayers has a world view with which I am uncomfortable but with which Obama is quite comfortable. The same goes for Rev. Wright, btw. I do not share his vision of the world, either.