Working the Refs
ST. LOUIS — Rick Klein here from ABC’s The Note — I’ll be blogging all day and night from Washington University in St. Louis — check back for updates in the run-up to and during tonight’s debate.
Pre-debate spin knows no barriers these days — and for a striking example, witness what the McCain-Palin campaign is trying to do to Gwen Ifill, the moderator of tonight’s vice-presidential debate.
The issue, as you probably know by know, is that Ifill is writing a book, scheduled to come out on inauguration day. Its title: “The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.”
At first, the McCain campaign was willing to let its allies dial up the outrage by themselves. The story “broke” on a conservative Website late Tuesday, and the Drudge Report’s linkage ensured big play on talk radio throughout the day, including Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.
McCain at first demurred, praising Ifill’s journalistic credentials. Then, this morning, McCain jumped in the fray: “Frankly, I wish they had picked a moderator that isn’t writing a book that is favorable to Barack Obama — I mean let’s face it,” he said on Fox & Friends.
Clearly, this is the McCain-Palin campaign trying to work the refs. Clearly, this is an attempt to create a storyline of excuses in case Gov. Sarah Palin disappoints tonight.
Just as clearly, this is silly and — even in the age of anything-goes spin — just not right. First, nobody knows what Ifill is going to write; Ifill herself says she hasn’t written the section on Obama yet, and the book will be about a whole generation of black leaders, not just Obama.
Second, no one seriously questions the journalistic credentials of the PBS veteran, who also did stints at NBC News and The New York Times.
Third, Ifill’s authorship of this book should have surprised precisely no one in political circles. Six weeks ago, the book merited a mention in Time magazine. Last month, The Washington Post wrote about it.
For this to suddenly become an “issue” right before the debate is a disservice to a talented journalist. It fits with the McCain campaign’s efforts to rail against the media — but does Team McCain really think it will win an election because people think it win anger the MSM?
Both sides play an audacious spin game before debates. The Obama camp has taken to calling Palin “Cicero of the Snow” — only half in jest.
But ultimately, won’t the perceptions of Palin have far more to do with her own performance than with a book the moderator is writing?
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Posted by: Deep Release | October 2, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
I can’t find words anymore for this man. Has he no dignity?
Posted by: beck | October 2, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Sarah Palin has committed yet another political blunder after claiming she had held talks with a British ambassador – talks that never actually took place.
In an answer to questions about her foreign policy experience ahead of tonight’s make-or-break vice presidential TV debate, her aides listed numerous contacts with foreign officials – including Britain’s ambassador to Washington, Sir Nigel Sheinwald.
However the meeting never occurred. Officials at the embassy swiftly contacted the McCain-Palin campaign to inform them of the discrepancy.
A British Embassy spokesman said the error arose after Sir Nigel’s name was listed among those who had attended a US Governor’s meeting in July.
Mrs Palin was at the meeting in her role as Governor of Alaska. However Sir Nigel pulled out at the last minute, leaving his name on the guest list.
The embarrassing mishap comes as Mrs Palin faces the biggest challenge of her political life tonight in a head-to-head vice-presidential debate with Democratic candidate Joe Biden.
Posted by: now this | October 2, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
John Mccain has become reckless and irresponsible. Or has he always been that way?
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 2, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
McCain has lost it!! Cry me a river. The Repubs are such cry babys. Gwen Ifill is a great journalist. I have watched her for many years on PBS with the NewsHour and Washington Week. She lets other points of view heard in her discussions and asks smart questions.
This is another NONISSUE being used to distract the public from the truth.
Don’t buy it
Posted by: palcah | October 2, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
“Second, no one seriously questions the journalistic credentials of the PBS veteran, who also did stints at NBC News and The New York Times.”
That sentence is comical. Using her two previous employers – both of whom are known liberal outlets and truly “in the tank” for the left – makes the argument for the Republicans.
Posted by: Tony | October 2, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Would this be a non-issue if O’Reilly were the moderator? Really? I hardly think so. Talk about being blinded.
Posted by: Chuck Peterson | October 2, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Well gee, she worked at NBC News and the New York Times! How could anyone possibly question her impartiality. She’s only writing a book about Obama, and didn’t disclose such to the election commission. Perfect journalistic ethics.
Posted by: delong | October 2, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Sure, the kid-glove-slap to the other side that you (No doubt begrudgingly) placed in the second to last paragraph makes this an inarguably objective entry…
The only reason that this uproar is ridiculous is that it stands on the assumption that anyone thought in the first place that there was a journalist in the world not longing for an Obama victory.
Posted by: Patrick | October 2, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
The author of this story has no credibility. How could you possibly insinuate that their is not a conflict of interest here. Are you just that stupid or biased? Americans are coming to the realization that the entire media(minus a few on CNN and obviously FOX) are in the tank for Obama. Rick, do us all a favor and turn your pen in. I’m not even a McCain supporter, Hillary was my girl, but of course you and your friends ousted her too. You are the cause of bringing our country down with your help to elect the Manchurian Candidate. I spit on you and your once credible news organization.
Posted by: Brett | October 2, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Good grief. Gwen Ifill has a financial interest in the outcome of this election. What’s her book worth if Obama loses the election? She’s not just the ref in this case, she’s shown herself to be the cheerleader and now we learn she’s also the bookie; having a financial interest in the outcome of the game.
Posted by: Refs Cheerleaders Bookies | October 2, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
You liberals are all the same. We are not suppose to question what Gwen Iffil did. What she did we was not tell the debate committee about her book and I don’t care if some knew about this book. It was up to her as a journalist with ethics to divulge this. Imagine if this was a conservative writing a favorable book about McCain. I will guarantee all you liberals would be screaming because that is what you do.
PBS is all liberal anyways and our tax dollars should not be funding it. If the Fairness Doctrine gets back in they will have to go after PBS too for no conservative views or journalists.
Posted by: Diane P. | October 2, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Non-issue?
OK, then lets replace Ifill with Limbaugh.
Posted by: Rossco | October 2, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
But, in this case, the ref has a 6 figure bet on hte game
Posted by: Tom R | October 2, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Gwen Ifill stands to profit financially from an Obama victory – her book is to be released on Inauguration Day and is subtitled “…in the Age of Obama”.
The mere appearance of any impropriety should have DQ’d her from moderating duties. Or she should have declined. She herself has called out politicians over the issue of conflict of interest:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzQ0NTdjZWU2ZTM5MWFkNGI2Njc4OWZjMzUxOTU0YmI=
Posted by: Marc | October 2, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
This is yellow journalism at is finest.
She has a VESTED financial interest in seeing Obama win. It is literally that simple. The fact that you can’t see that shows how myopic one can truly be.
Posted by: Johnny_P | October 2, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
If the moderator had a book contract and was writing a book called “The Breakthough – Politics in the Age of McCain” the liberals would be all over it. Most Moderates and conservative see this as an issue, the fact that you do not says a lot about your credibility. The fact that you do not see this as a conflict shows just how biased you are. Sometimes I feel like I am living in a twilight zone where there is such obvious bias toward Obama and the Mainstream Media denies it to no end. Absolutely Ridiculous. Ethical journalism is dead.
Posted by: You can't be serious | October 2, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Nice Try Dem’s. Be ready for your guy to blow it. The OBama Facade will crumble. Why you may ask? He has no foundation. He is a product of Hollywood. He looks good from the front but there is no substance behind him. He has accomplished nothing in his life except community organize for whatever that’s worth. Gov. Palin far exceeds his experience. Obama is a JOKE… LMAO
Posted by: Danny | October 2, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
i guess ethical behavior is a concept foreign to you all. she has a conflict of interest that involves a lot of money coming her way if obama wins.
Posted by: wow | October 2, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Does she still have a book if Obama is defeated? The point is less about journalistic integrity (we are all well aware of the MSM’s leanings) and more about conflict of interest. The title of the book is “Breakthrough” for crying out loud. No win = no book.
Posted by: Wilbur | October 2, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
The point is conflict of interest. Ifill stands to gain more from book sales if Obama is elected. Conflict of interest is conflict of interest. You don’t say, “I’m soooOOOoooOooO impartial and soooOoOOOO respected that the normal rules of conflict of interest don’t apply to me — cuz I’m better than all that.”
Gwen’s great — I love her — but that doesn’t pass the smell test.
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Do As I Say, Not As I Do:
Gwen Ifill’s conflict for thee, but not for me.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzQ0NTdjZWU2ZTM5MWFkNGI2Njc4OWZjMzUxOTU0YmI=
Posted by: Tahoe Editor | October 2, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
So, Ifill’s book will not praise Obama and his accomplishments as a political newbie? Riiiiight. The very fact that it’s titled “The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama”, authored by a liberal, black newswoman from PBS should erase any doubts which way the book will go.
The woman has an INREDIBLE financial interest in having OBambi win the election, considering that the book will be released on Inauguration Day. So, it is fair to raise the issue of whether or not she can remain impartial, for she is certainly NOT impartial to who wins this election
Posted by: Jason | October 2, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
“Second, no one seriously questions the journalistic credentials of the PBS veteran, who also did stints at NBC News and The New York Times”
Seriously? And Bush is supposed to be in a bubble? Rick, pop your bubble, talk to someone who is actually conservative. 70%+ think the media is in the tank for Obama. Gwen has been liberally biased her whole career.
Imagine if Brit Hume or Chris Wallace of Fox News were moderating and they had a book coming out with a chapter on McCain. I think Obama would withdraw.
Posted by: colin | October 2, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
One more example of how the media has a blind spot for their own political leanings.
Yes it WOULD be an issue if the moderator were to be O’Reilly, and the left would be out in the street burning effigies over it.
There are hundreds of people (if not thousands) with the credentials to do this job, why pick someone with a book in the works?
It looks bad. And Ifill’s response to it all “let them wait and see how I do” makes it worse.
So, if she doesn’t do well do we get a rematch?
Didn’t think so.
The left tells the voters: “Let them eat cake!”
Posted by: Mac Beach | October 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
It’s hard to take Klein seriously when he is either ignorant of or purposely omits salient facts like Ifill’s puff piece about Obama in Essence Magazine; her praise of her cousin, who has attacked Palin in her articles; and her palpable distaste when asked for her reaction to Palin after the latter’s speech at the Republican convention. No serious person imagines that Ifill is unbiased. She even stands to lose financially if Obama isn’t elected and the centerpiece of her book to be relased on inauguration day becomes a has-been! If Ifill were an honest journalist, she would have refused the job of moderator. If Klein were an honest journalist…well, based on the above, that’s pretty hard to imagine.
Posted by: tanuki | October 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Right or Left, does it matter? Both sides are going to spin what they can but I will admit this is a tough situation. Ifill has put herself in between a rock and a hard place. On one side, the McCain-Palin ticket has every right to call foul because she does have a vested interest in Obama winning. That said, Ifill is known to be a somewhat fair journalist and even if she is a liberal and has a stake, her credibility will go right out the window with any hint of favoritism towards Sen. Biden. I am very interested to see how far Biden goes with the inexperience label on Palin. It seems to me, being undecided but leaning at this point, that Palin is actually more experienced then Obama was when he started this campaign in the primaries. She has definitely been a little shaky but only in two and three part interviews where the anchors have clearly been try to rattle her. She actually seems honest and caring and does really believe in shaking things up. Those seem to be the same characteristics that people like Obama for. I would even venture to say that you can learn more from her record than his because she has taken more concrete stances. Tonight will be a good test, but as always, my vote is going for the top of the ticket and that needs to be remembered.
Posted by: AmITheOnlyModerate | October 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Just a book? How about her traveling with Obama on the campaign trail? Or spending enormous amounts of up close and personal time with Obama and family? How about writing at least 3 articles about Obama for Essence magazine glorifying Obama? Republicans want to use the book as proof of bias to excuse Palin if she loses? Give me a break. This is a setup from the word go. Another example of the underhanded tactics of the Dem party.
Posted by: al | October 2, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Again, NON ISSUE-DISTRACTIONS-They are so desperate to qualify the result of this debate the Repubs will go after anyone. This supposed conflict is not there. I have heard nothing but conservative spinning all day on the radio. SMELLS LIKE DESPERATION TO ME!!
Posted by: palcah | October 2, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
BOTTOM LINE: This book goes on sale the day of the day the new President takes office. What sells more books, Obama winning or McCain winning? If the answer is Obama then she has to excuse her self. She stands to gain monetarily from Obama winning the election. The perception of impropriety is enough that she should back out. To quote McCain from today “lets face it” if this was a book about McCain she would of been forced out and hung out to dry by the rest of the media. This is one more example of the double standard in the media that can no longer be denied.
Posted by: ANDREW KING | October 2, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Go back and watch Ifill’s ‘clearly’ disgusted look after reporting on Palin’s RNC speech. She was dismissive, and offended, and it showed on her face. Now tell me how fair and unbiased she is. Stop covering for this schill of a ‘reporter’. In all fairness though, she was but one of the MANY Liberal reporters in the mainstream media who could not hide their true feelings while covering the RNC. Her actions should have earned her the demotion that Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann got though too.
Posted by: steve | October 2, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Klein calls this piece “Working the Refs” and he is right in that Ifill is in the role of a referee, however we learn that this referee has a bias. No surprise in that, most referees have some bias going into a game. The good refs get so busy doing the job that they concentrate on each play and not the outcome.
The difference is that this referee has money on the outcome of this game and THAT is a very big difference. Ifill stands to make a six figure amount if the book does reasonably well and it won’t if Obama loses the election. If Ifill really was a referee, she would be fired for betting on the game and if it could be proved she threw the game she would also be prosecuted. Klein’s poo-pooing of this is the real example of high RPM spin.
E.Zach Lee-Wright
Posted by: E.Zach Lee-Wright | October 2, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Rick Klein is so biased it isn’t funny. This guy wears his position not on his sleeve but his forehead. What a fraud.
Posted by: Hsu From Jail | October 2, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
“Clearly, this is the McCain-Palin campaign trying to work the refs. Clearly, this is an attempt to create a storyline of excuses in case Gov. Sarah Palin disappoints tonight.”
Are you clowns on the left really this far out of touch from reality to make such statements? Pointing out the FACT that the “moderator” just happens to be a life long liberal Democrat, who also just happens to be almost done with a favorable book about BO and how great life will be when he is president – is not creating an excuse. Can you, or any left wing bozo reading this, name for me one time (just one time) this has happened in the past in favor to the Repub’s??? Has there ever been a moderator of a debate such as this who was a life long Republican and an author of a book favoring the Republican Presidential candidate??? Hell no, you can’t because this would never happen to the dem’s. The dem’s have to play with a stacked deck; otherwise they may actually get a tough question or two and really get thrown for a loop.
Posted by: William | October 2, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Whenever a journalist uses the term “clearly” and “no one” over and over in an article, he is trying to push his agenda.
Let me help, if Obama wins, her book, which comes out on inauguration day, will make more money. Therefore, she has a financial interest in Obama winning. That is called bias.
The liberals are circling the wagons around a biased reporter.
Posted by: ed rollins | October 2, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
What is wrong with the author of this? Is this objective journalism or a column?
Ifill makes $1,000,000 if Obama wins and makes $40,000 if he loses. That is what is at stake.
Posted by: Dadvocate | October 2, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Ifill is probably a very good, non partisan journalist, but she should have been pulled OUT OF COMMON COURTESY, the same way Supreme Ct judges recuse themselves from cases in which they have a remote personal interest. If the tables were turned, you can bet that this article would have the opposite theme and so would the party line that the rest of Democrats are taking. So let’s get real.
Posted by: Keith | October 2, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Biden-Ifill
vs.
Palin
She can take the moose Ifill out, Biden will prance around and step into his own crap. LMAO.
Posted by: Danny | October 2, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Are the big mean Republicans picking on you poor little Dems? We should just lie down and take all the crap you feel like dishing out, huh? Ifell’s a liberal pig like the rest if you, and if you can’t see the conflicts of interest, then you’re not only morally bankrupt, but retarded!
Posted by: Ad rem | October 2, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
As far as working the ref’s. Didn’t an NBA ref go to jail for these kind of influences. IFIL is a joke. She fools no one. She a hack from the word go. You watch. If Gov. Palin is making a good point, I bet Ifil jumps right in to talk over her. WITHOUT A DOUBT.
Posted by: Danny | October 2, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Correction: Ifill, not Ifell (both pronounced “awful”).
Posted by: Ad rem | October 2, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
For Obama’s followers, nothing is unfair when it comes to getting him elected. The upcoming V.P. debate is no exception.
The fact that Gwen Ifill will directly benefit financially from Obama getting elected is an obvious conflict of interest.
Can anyone deny that if Obama gets elected, she will sell more books?
As a book peddler (not a publicly funded “journalist”), why wouldn’t she do what she can to sell more books, including spin the debate?
Under normal circumstances (except for getting Obama elected) debate moderators are a lot like sports umpires and referees in that they need to be objective and free of conflicts of interest.
This is a great example that when it comes to getting Obama elected, fairness from the media is just too much to ask for and nothing is out of bounds.
If all of the Obamaholics truly believe that Palin is going to do so badly tonight, why do they have to fix the debate with a crooked moderator? Biden should be more than a match for her.
It’s unfair situations like this that feeds resentment and divides people after the election is over and makes governing much more difficult for whoever gets elected. Does anyone remember the 2000 election (some say selection) of Bush/Cheney in 2000?
It’s just bad karma.
Posted by: Not Surprised in CO | October 2, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
The Negress “moderator” is completely in the tank for Barack Hussein. This is a clear conflict of interest on her part. Only a Marxist media Jew could possibly pretend not to see the obvious problem with this situation.
Posted by: VenomousJews | October 2, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
The article’s writer complains about McCain spinning? How about quoting the rest of what McCain actually said? Yes, he said he would have preferred someone who wasn’t writing a book about Obama (duh!). But he went on to reiterate what he said yesterday: that he trusts Ms. Ifill to be responsible. Omitting that is hardly objective.
Posted by: Kathy | October 2, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
“no one seriously questions the journalistic credentials of the PBS veteran”
I am at least one person who seriously questions the journalistic credentials of Gwen Ifill if objectivity is included in the criteria for determining ‘journalistic credentials’.
If it is just a comparison relative to other well known spokesweasles in the MSM (Mostly Smoke and Mirrors) today, then Ifill’s credentials are about average.
Posted by: kbhvac | October 2, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
On the other hand there is serious concern that Tom Brokaw is in the tank for his longtoime friend John McCain.
See:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/arts/television/30brok.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/30/moveon-demands-apology-fr_n_130538.html
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Plouffe_plays_the_Brokaw_card.html?showall
Posted by: steve | October 2, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Question to Governor Palin: “Name all the Judges on the Supreme Court in alphabetical and then chronological order and their votes on court decisions in the last 10 years that have a defendant with first letters in their names of B, R, S and cite the references to each case in the U.S. Constitution. And why you disagree with each court decision and how each relates to your 17-year old daughter being pregnant.”
Ifill Question to Biden – 2 part question: “Is your chair comfortable? Would you like some more water?”
Posted by: Zank | October 2, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
PS:
Ifil’s siter is a Palin Hater. Michelle Malkin has a piece on it. More hate from the Dem’s. Why do they hate so much and why are they all so angry.
Posted by: Danny | October 2, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Ummmmmmm….no one questions Ifill’s journalistic credentials of the PBS veteran? I DO! As do many others! You liberal media types kill me. Just look the other way…you are such elitists!
Now go back to the bar and clink your glasses together and snicker how you pulled one over on the right! Don’t forget to take your buddy Chris Matthew’s too.
Posted by: Greg | October 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Gwen Ifill unbiased??? What a joke. She has ruined PBS’ Washington Week by having nothing but liberals on the show. But that is ok, Sarah will kick both her and Biden’s rear ends tonight!
Posted by: dennis p lima | October 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
From ’300′
Palin leaning in close to Biden’s left ear and saying,
“You will not enjoy this. It will not be over quickly. I am NOT your queen!”
Then turning to the cameras:
“mr. o’bama, John McCain knew Abraham Lincoln. You’re no Abe Lincoln!
“You are no Frederick Douglas and you are no Martin Luther King, Jr.!”
Posted by: kbhvac | October 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
“First, nobody knows what Ifill is going to write; Ifill herself says she hasn’t written the section on Obama yet, and the book will be about a whole generation of black leaders, not just Obama.”
Are you joking… the book is titled, “The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.” Speaking of biased reporting… The dinosaur media at work yet again!
BTW is foxnews going to be able to moderate any of the debates? I don’t think so! “After suffering the bitter, and unprecedented, blow during the Democratic primary season of having candidates refuse — twice — to appear in Fox News-sponsored forums when bloggers raised hell about the news organization’s lack of legitimacy, Rupert Murdoch’s news channel was again left off the list of news anchors tapped to moderate the must-see TV events in the fall.”
Never mind Foxnews continues to decimate it’s rival news stations… Liberals make me laugh. If the tables were reversed they would be crying racism, class nonsense.
Posted by: Joshua | October 2, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
I miss stated Ifil’s sister. It should of said cousin. SORRY BOUT DAT
‘Brilliant’ Ifill Cousin Scours Palin As ‘Offensive to Black Women’
Professor Sherrilyn Ifill of the University of Maryland Law School, whom Gwen Ifill has lauded as “my brilliant baby cousin,” has written that black women are not buying Sarah Palin’s “false claims to feminism” and is portrayed as too perfect: “when women who are privileged present as though they have it all together, it’s offensive to black women
Posted by: Danny | October 2, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
It can be noted that the professor is so passionate an Obama supporter that she also denounced Hillary Clinton as a phony feminist: “When she knocked back a shot and a beer in that bar in Pennsylvania, Mrs. Clinton ended any pretense of running as a feminist.” She compared it to Michael Dukakis in a tank, a failed “macho stunt.”
Posted by: Danny | October 2, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
The concept of conflict of interest is not part of the liberal/hack media vocabulary, unless it regards a conservative or Republican. The fact that Ifils will not be wearing her Obama tee-shirt tonight, is apparently sufficient proof of her objectivity. Any relationship between Obama winning the election, her book coming out on Inauguration Day, and the exponential size of her payday if these two unrelated events should occur, must be purely coincidental. There are insufficient words in the English language to cover the hypocrisy, shamelessness, and total intellectual dishonesty of the partisan media. If Obama fails to win the election and install today’s media as the official ministry of propaganda, the entire lot of you weasels should be tossed into the street when the American public ceases to buy your papers, watch your television, or bother to peruse your ignorance on the internet.
Posted by: Marcy | October 2, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
“For this to suddenly become an “issue” right before the debate is a disservice to a talented journalist.”
You are right, this is a disservice, but look at it from another perspective: why IS this the first that mainstream media has picked up the story? It is not the mere mention in Time magazine, but why would debate officials knowingly allow the decision to have someone so clearly biased moderate? That is the blatant disservice. Why would Ifill not excuse herself?
Who is welcoming controversy? What a better way to promote your book!
Posted by: Wayne Oregon | October 2, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Rick,
You are a disgrace. Ifill should recuse herself immediately. You cant possibly be stupid enough to think otherwise. You disgust me.
Posted by: Todd | October 2, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Wholly Manufactured….my A@@. You Rick Klein are so out of touch with regular people that you wouldn’t understand or see manufactured evidence if a pigeon crapped it on your head in neon lights! I am disgusted with the MSM and I hope that all of ABC’s shows go into the tank (since your already in it with Obama).
Posted by: Jerri | October 2, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Rick Klein – Are you joking or is your political vision so badly tainted by Obama Kool-Aid you can’t blog straight?
Gwen Ifill has a VESTED INTEREST in having Obama elected. Why can’t you see that? Would you want a candidate to lose and “disappear” if you were releasing a book on his campaign? Please. Pull the other leg Klein, it plays Jingle bells.
Posted by: Truthseeker | October 2, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
What an incredibly stupid article. What an unbelievable dimwit. How could there possibly be a conflict of interest here? Hmmm. Maybe because nobody’s going to buy Ifill’s book if Inauguration Day belongs to McCain?
But wait! It’s a totally impartial book! That’s why the subtitle calls this the AGE OF OBAMA! He’s the new Jesus, and this is HIS era! And anyway, Ifill worked for NYT, which every good liberal knows is the epitome of objective ‘thought’.
And I’ve yet to hear anyone respond to this argument: Hannity? O’Reilly? Aw, hell…ANYONE on Foxnews? You liberals wouldn’t be crapping your pants with a Fox commentator? Man, Klein is the perfect liberal stooge; a completely brainless parrot.
Posted by: HypnoToad | October 2, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
“Wholly manufactured?” You mean like your blog? please. ABC is holding hands with MSNBC. Enjoy the downhill slide.
Posted by: Democrat Fact Checker | October 2, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Hey Rick, who vouched for Ifill’s
objectivity, was it Dan Rather?
“Talented” my ass! She is another
left wing hack with an ax to grind.
You clowns in the MSM can’t really
believe that you are still relevant.
Posted by: paulejb | October 2, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Let’s hope Ifill is just as thorough at “following up” on Palin’s questions as Katie Couric was with Joe Biden.
What a joke! Couric let him ramble and lie, yet “probed a little deeper” to find out how Palin get’s her news?
MSM is so 9/10.
Posted by: NoTo BO | October 2, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
For fairness why don’t they let Rush Limbaugh moderate the next Presidential debate?
Posted by: Hurricane Bob | October 2, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Ifill is writing a book about “the Age of Obama” that is scheduled to go on sale inauguration day. Gee, how do you think it’ll sell if the man being sworn in that day is John McCain? OF COURSE she has a stake in an Obama victory. (And for another clue, check out her fawning magazine coverage earlier this year of Barack and Michelle, which was cloying and biased even by Ifill’s own somewhat lowered standards. Ifill, NBC, Newsweek, the NYTimes….they’re all in the tank for Obama. Provably so. Shockingly so.
Posted by: S.K. Chartwell | October 2, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Hey Klein,
Matt Drudge doesn’t editorialize. He simply lists links to stories, or in your case, lame left-wing blogs. Hey! I thought he was right wing?
Posted by: Truthseeker | October 2, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
obambi now that’s funny! I haven’t seen that one yet!
Palin will rise above the fray. Believe me she’s faced tougher times than a silly debate that really doesn’t get the president elected/or not. .. Remember Dan Quayle?
Posted by: judi | October 2, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
“…Age of Obama” says all you need to know.
This isn’t 2008, it has been promoted to an “AGE* due to the presence of the mighty 0Bama
Posted by: Bob | October 2, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
I’m just heading out today to purchase my copy of “The age of Dukakis”…should be a real page turner.
If BHO loses, there won’t be any “age of Obama.” And am I really supposed to believe she hasn’t written the section on Obama yet???
NYT, NBC, PBS…wow…
Clowns.
Posted by: bob | October 2, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Ifill has no business doing this job as moderator. This is the most outrageous example of media bias I have ever seen. Ifill clearly has a financial stake in this- perhaps millions- it was a breach of common sense ethics for her not to disclose this book to the commission.
It is good this is exposed- and it’s probably the tip of the ice burg.
Posted by: sheva | October 2, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Funny how Gwen Ifill sees fit to interview a black Democrat state senator, but neglects to interview a former Lieutenant Governor–Michael Steele, one of the rising stars of the Republican party. Deval Patrick has a 30% approval rating. His future is bleak. Steel’s future is very bright.
I can’t imagine why she wouldn’t interview him as a new black voice in politics. Can you?
Posted by: Michael Newsom | October 2, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Ifill’s failure to disclose her conflict of interest to the debate commission shows she is a selfish, power seeking, manipulator. If she had any honor she would withdraw. She, however, has chosen to put her own interests ahead of the country’s.
Posted by: Jack | October 2, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Hey y’all,
While this is still fresh in your mind and your adrenallin is still pumping, now is the time to write your letters to cancel TIME, Newsweek, NYTimes (I really can’t imagine anyone actually subscribing to this rag), and Time Warner Cable. Use your parental controls to block NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC. Inform the children that DisneyWorld is closed. Let GE know that there products will never again darken your door. Write your Senators and Congressman to vote against all funding for PBS and NPR. I wouldn’t wait until November 5th to do this, because your freedom to do so, may no longer exist on that date.
Posted by: NCMike | October 2, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
And by the way, fellow posters: Instead of getting annoyed at all this obvious and toxic bias, let’s channel our energy into constructive action. The MSM says it’s merely performing a public service by “vetting” Sarah Palin, right? Well the way I see it, Rick Klein is a public figure as well (his efforts for this ABC blog would certainly satisfy the legal definition), so how about we perform a public service by vetting him? Anyone have info that would be useful and proper? Please share!
Posted by: S.K. Chartwell | October 2, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Just curious:
Where is it written in stone that only a journalist is qualified to be a debate moderator?
Posted by: MC | October 2, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Palin can nip this in the bud with a simple response at the first sign of bias from Ifil. Sarah can simply smile slyly and and ask Gwen if her question was inspired by “your book about Mr. McCain’s opponent in this presidential campaign.” Put Gwen on the defensive right away, and Sarah will win the debate hands down.
Posted by: Matt Paust | October 2, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Rick – You are not serious are you? Of course there is a financial conflict, regardless of what she writes about Obama. Gwen stands to profits from Obama winning the election. Her book has his name in the title and it comes out a day after the President is sworn in.
Posted by: Paul | October 2, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
OK, so let me get this straight. It was a known fact tht Ifill was writing a book about black politicians, and even the most basic google search would have revealed this fact. SO, that leaves only two possibilities. 1) McCain thought it was not a problem and now is simply trying to manufacture some outrage, or 2) McCain failed to do even the most simple vetting before making a gut decision. I don’t see how either makes me feel good about McCain and his leadership abilities.
Posted by: TomInStL | October 2, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
It’s a shame that so many journalists are willing to chuck aside basic journalistic ethics for such transient partisan gain.
We’re all the poorer for the lack of an honorable, ethical corps of journalists.
Posted by: Clint | October 2, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Notice the 4 or 5 pro Obama comments are at the top… The mainstream media is a giant left wing circle jerk
Posted by: Bill Kelly | October 2, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Notice the 4 or 5 pro Obama comments are at the top… The mainstream media is a giant left wing circle jerk
Posted by: Bill Kelly | October 2, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Hey, Rick! It’s simple. If Obama gets elected she makes a small fortune. If he doesn’t, she doesn’t.
Posted by: 867-5309 | October 2, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Lehrer was great. Why is almost everyone on TV or in newspapers so rabidly biased? If your business is to dispense truth about events it is so unprofessional to have such blinding levels of bias. There seems to be to be so few that respect their jobs and audience.
Posted by: Ron | October 2, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
or 3) TomInStL, you’re already in the tank for Obama, so you’ve never felt good about McCain or his leadership qualities. You’re as transparent as Ifil’s lack of objectivity or Rick Klein’s partisanship.
Posted by: Marcy | October 2, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
weak excuse making from this blog. Completely unconvincing.
Posted by: chris | October 2, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Rick,
I know you enjoy cashing your OBama campaign checks, but seriously, take one night off.
You may be in love with Gwen Ifill, but you are ignoring the central problem with what she is doing with the book vis a vi being a VP moderator.
There will be no “Age of Obama” if Obama doesn’t win on Nov 4. Obama is a first term senator, hardly someone to base an entire “Age” on presently. If he loses, there is no Age of Obama. There is rising politician Senator Obama, just like any other young senator.
Answer me this Rick, if the moderator wrote a book about the coming “Age of McCain” which focused on a return to Teddy Roosevelt-type GOP policies, would that moderator be acceptable to the media and Obama?
Dream on, buddy. I hope the censorship goon squad lets this comment stand so that discussion can ensue.
Posted by: JG | October 2, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Fact of the matter is that she should have revealed the fact that she is writing this book. In the title “The Age of Obama.” What’s that? The age AFTER the age of Aquarius. Release date, INNAUGURATION DAY?
Come on, even an appearence of improprieity should have been avoided. She should have informed the commission.
Ethical Lapse.
Imagine if John Podhoretz, author of books about Bush, had been chosen, and had not revealed to the commish that he had written his books.
All holy hell would have rightly broken out on the left.
Ifell should have spoken up.
Moral cowardice.
Posted by: themistocles | October 2, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
FYI folks check out OReilly about to be a Barney Frank screaming match.
Posted by: JG | October 2, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
“no one seriously questions the journalistic credentials of the PBS veteran, who also did stints at NBC News and The New York Times.”
Are you kidding? These organizations are the laughing stock of all the news outlets! I don’t know if Ms. Ifill will be fair or not, but there is a clear financial conflict of interest here that she should have disclosed. She should have recused hereself.
Posted by: SIVRAC | October 2, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
“Clearly, this is the McCain-Palin campaign trying to work the refs. Clearly, this is an attempt to create a storyline of excuses in case Gov. Sarah Palin disappoints tonight. Just as clearly, this is silly and — even in the age of anything-goes spin — just not right.”
And I agree… in fact, I think Gwen Ifill is probably totally unbiased and most likely even possibly might be pro-McCain/Palin. I mean, come on… get real. How could such a person possibly be pro-Obama? What a skewed concept… “clearly”.
Posted by: beaker | October 2, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Ifill has a book coming out with a title that includes the phrase “Age of Obama”.
Logic suggests that the book will sell better if the “Age of Obama” extends past the first week in November.
Ifill has a financial interest in the results of the Novemebr election. As the debate moderator, she can choose questions which are preferential to one candidate or another.
If this is such a nonissue, why not let Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh moderate the last two presidential debates?
Posted by: malclave | October 2, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
“First, nobody knows what Ifill is going to write.”
Yes, I am CERTAIN she will NOT write ANYTHING about Barack Obama. Oops.
“Second, no one seriously questions the journalistic credentials of the PBS veteran, who also did stints at NBC News and The New York Times.”
Experience at three lefty media outlets, two of who are admittedly in the tank for Obama. Yeah, she’s objective.
“Third, Ifill’s authorship of this book should have surprised precisely no one in political circles.”
Why not? Because they don’t read Time and WaPo? All that means is they are conservative.
Brilliant analysis Ricky!
Posted by: Joe F. | October 2, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Wow, Gwen could be biased. Couldn’t we have Oprah instead? She would be much more impartial. At least she would loose money if Obama is elected.
Posted by: John Galt | October 2, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
I HAVE NEVER SEEN MEDIA TRY SO HARD TO GET A CANIDATE ELECTED. I REALLY WISH THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA WOULD JUST COME OUT AND SAY. “YES!! WE ALL WANT OBAMA TO BE PRESIDENT”. MEDIA WOULD RECEIVE MORE RESPECT THEN IT HAS TODAY. ADVOCAY JOURNAILISM IS DANGEROUS AND TODAY’S MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS CERTAINLY DO NOT DESERVE A SHIELD LAW.
Posted by: Ken s | October 2, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Uh… She has a financial interest in seeing Obama elected. That’s the bottom line. She hid that. That’s just blatantly dishonest. Now, whether or not the debate goes smoothly, is yet to be seen. But, please – if anyone seriously thinks it’s a good idea having her as moderator, given the circumstances, they must be delusional. Whatever the person’s credentials, you don’t put a person with such a self-interest (financial in this case) in charge of moderating a debate in which they benefit more if one of the debating parties wins. It’s just ridiculous to even suggest.
Hopefully she’ll be able to ignore her financial interest in moderating the debate. Hopefully, she’ll also be able to set aside her political differences and her apparent animosity. But, having her as moderator is just stupid.
Posted by: Dickie | October 2, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
“Second, no one seriously questions the journalistic credentials of the PBS veteran, who also did stints at NBC News and The New York Times.”
Hilarious!
Posted by: Xanthippe | October 2, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
The debate I keep having in my own mind is this. Given that the vast majority of MSM reporters are Democrat — in sympathy if not in fact (they may wish not to register Dem so as to maintain a show of neutrality) — do they KNOW that they slant the news coverage in a Dem direction or do they really think they’re being neutral and just don’t see what conservatives see. Mr. Klein suggests the former. They really are clueless about themselves. The really think they’re neutral and objective. Would it be better just to ditch the whole goal of neutral objective reporting, let reporters show their bias, and then we could all just deal with it openly?
Posted by: Judasmac | October 2, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Oh, come on. Clearly Ifill has a financial interest in Obama’s winning; if he doesn’t, the book will sell about like a book titled _Dukakis: Man of Destiny, Rider of Tanks_ would after he lost to GHWB.
And if you seriously think that the book won’t be utterly worshipful of the Obamessiah, you must not have read other things she’s written about The One.
Posted by: James | October 2, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Is this Daily Kos? it appears to be a liberal blog. Gee toto, I don’t think I in reality land anymore!
Posted by: CapnDick | October 2, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
MSM claiming MSM member is not biased. And to prove it, boasts about her NBC, PBS, and NYTimes resumé.
R-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-g-h-t!
I mean L-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-f-t!
Posted by: JubJub | October 2, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
How much longer until ABC finally goes out of business because no one trusts what they say anymore? Can’t last more than ten years with these thoughts being posted.
Posted by: dave | October 2, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
What’s the writer of this smoking?
Posted by: Todd | October 2, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
“Second, no one seriously questions the journalistic credentials of the PBS veteran, who also did stints at NBC News and The New York Times.”
A very large part of the country would question a journalist whose history included PBS, NBC and the New York Times. All three news organizations have a remarkably well-deserved reputation for liberal bias.
Posted by: nope | October 2, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
“…nobody knows what Ifill is going to write; Ifill herself says she hasn’t written the section on Obama yet..”
I’ll put my next paycheck up against yours on that one, Klein. I mean, PBS is just teeming with African Americans who hate Obama. You neglect to mention that fact that she’s already written an article on Obama for some magazine (can’t remember the name of the magazine). You might want to read that article before you take me up on my bet, by the way.
What would you and your minions say about letting an actual conservative voice moderate a debate? You all are so used to the game being played on your terms and in your own backyard that you don’t even see blatant conflict of interest when it smacks you in the face.
Posted by: Tim | October 3, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
** What would you and your minions say about letting an actual conservative voice moderate a debate? **
She was asked to moderate and approved by both parties months ago. They all knew about her book and yet said nothing at that time. If the GOP had a problem, then they could have voiced it and not approved at that time. Recent voices regarding her impartiality were simply a ploy to provide a scapegoat should Palin do badly in the debate. Nothing more.
Posted by: James Waters | October 3, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Rick,
Mark Halperin has already admitted that ABC slanted heavily to the left and was very biased in favor of Democrats and has been for very long. Funny you are still playing this “we aren’t biased” game when everyone knows you are. Why are you so dishonest about this?
Posted by: Rich T | October 19, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm