AP Reports that Obama’s Aunt is in the U.S. Illegally
Zeituni Onyango, Sen. Barack Obama’s long-lost half-aunt who was discovered living in public housing in Boston earlier this week, is in the U.S. illegally, the Associated Press reported Friday.
The Obama campaign, which has generally refused to comment on any of Obama’s myriad half-siblings scattered throughout the globe, has generally refused to comment on Onyango though the campaign did confirm to the Times of London for its Saturday edition that she is Obama’s father’s half-sister.
Earlier this week the Times of London and the Boston Globe found the woman referred to in Obama’s memoir "Dreams From My Father" as "Aunt Zeituni."
A person familiar with Onyango’s immigration status told the AP Friday that she "was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request…Onyango’s refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the United States.
A searchable database of campaign donations on the Huffington Post indicates that Onyango has given her nephew’s presidential campaign $260 the Times reports that the donations she has given have been in small increments under $200 so by law they do not show up on Federal Election Commission reports.
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., discloses donations of all amounts; he has criticized Obama for not disclosing all donations, saying such a process lends itself to illegal contributions, such as — presumably — Onyango’s.
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Im sure if our nation can adopt the McCains daughter Bridget who was brought here illegaly before being adopted by the McCains and our nation we can adopt an old lady who is the Aunty of the man who should and will be our next President.
Zeituni should be alowed to stay!
We the American people are good and generous people!
Obama 08 Powered by people not corporations.
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
Did Mr. 0bama do anything to uphold the law of the country? Mr. 0bama vividly described his aunt in his Audacity – but only there is no Hope in judgment.
0bama lacks fundamental judgment on key issues, as he has exhibited in the past year.
He had no clue about the crisis of the economy that already was at the brink of collapse one year ago – he pushed for Bush’s money giveaways and ridiculed Hillary Clinton’s plan to use that $300 billion to target banking, mortgage and financing sectors, which was the correct diagnose and is still today.
0bama promised to vote against FISA when he needed your votes in the primaries. He immediately breaks his promise when he does not need your votes in the party, voting for giving Bush the power to spy on you, taking your constitution right away. Senator Clinton voted against the FISA bill, AS PROMISED, so did John McCain.
0bama promised to use public financing before he knew he was going to get so much un-identified money. He immediately breaks his promise when he faces a critical decision. John McCain kept his promise.
Mr. 0bama lied to you that he was against giving the big oil tax credits, while his opponents were for giving the tax credits. In reality, he voted for the Bush/Cheney bill giving the largest tax credits to the big oils in history. McCain voted against his party line, against to give the big oil tax credit.
Mr. 0bama has been race-baiting, implying his opponents to be racists, including his running-mate Joe Biden on the very day that he announced his candidacy, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, geraldine Ferraro, and McCain. He sold out his fellow democrats, equating the Clinton administration to be the same as that of Bush’s.
0bama is simply not to be trusted.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
If this woman gets to stay here, then the other immigrants should get to stay too. Is Obama going to send his aunt to the back of the line, as he always likes to say when he’s chastising illegal immigrants?
I will be watching this very closely!
Posted by: hotandspicy | November 1, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am
The simple question is : why Obama doesn’t take care of his family ?
My wife is an immigrant with just as many overseas relatives; we help them out. Obama does not.
Posted by: Jeff | November 1, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am
If Sen McCain……can disclose all donations, why wouldn’t Sen Obama? This is a man who has preached ‘ change’, ‘ honesty’…….I’m not impressed nor surprised. As for his illegal alien aunt living in Boston housing, well, I’m not surprised at that either. What I am shocked at is…..the media actually printed that information about him. It’s been an all out ‘ hidden’ hands off coverage of Obama since he decided to run. Printing a story like this 3 days before the election….oh gee…….it’s a little late isn’t it?
I’ll vote for the War Hero, at least we know him well enough.
Posted by: jmm | November 1, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
Re: “Zeituni should be alowed to stay!”
Then the other immigrants should get to stay too.
Posted by: carmen | November 1, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
I cant believe the evilness in your guys posts!
The Cindy McCain brought Bridget here illegaly John McCain didnt even know she was going to! yes later they adopted her and got her to stay in a legal way!
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Who cares
Posted by: Joseph | November 1, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am
Then the other immigrants should get to stay too.
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Yep!
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am
Jeff
Have you read Obama’s books ?
You clearly dont get what happens to a family when you dont know your dad!
When your family isnt like those on TV!
Its had to have and know your family when you live in the same country let alone in one miles away!
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am
Bridget McCain is not an illegal immigrant. Nice try.
Posted by: bubbles | November 1, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
In addition to breaking the law of this country in illegal immigration, isn’t it against the law, a felony, for an illegal immigrant to contribute to the Presidential election?
Isn’t it against the Law for Mr. 0bama to accept illegal donations from his aunt, a illegal foreign national?
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
We do not know the whole story, so why are we making judgements.
Posted by: Felton | November 1, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
Mike, speaking of people power, don’t you think Obama should be the one giving money to the poor aunty in the public housing, as opposed to accepting the illegal donations she can probably ill-afford?
Maybe instead of asking McCain how many houses his wife owns the media should’ve been asking Obama how many of his relatives live in substandard housing and how many of those are here, legally or not.
Posted by: Zee | November 1, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
How many houses does McCain own? And how much are they worth again?
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
Can this country afford the prospect of a new President being investigated of receiving illegal donations?
When and how long do you expect millions of donors, IP addresses, names, citizen status to be verified?
There are serious problems ahead of this country. Are these the “Changes” you are looking for? Can YOU afford it?
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
someone said Obama cannot be trusted, well can McCain be trusted? After all look at how he picked Palin.
Posted by: Felton | November 1, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
Why is it McCain wants to pay less taxes. Isn’t he rich enough?
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am
Pit Bull,
It’s original enough, and if the American people really understood what “Class Struggle” is about, there will be hope, and the hope is not electing 0bama.
Do you understand what Class Struggle is?
If you do, ask yourself, honestly, what 0bama is.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am
What is the problem with a relative donating $260 or $260,000 to Obama? Millions of people ALL OVER THE WORLD are donating in small amounts to Obama because we want him to win and become the president of the world!
Obama! Obama! Obama!
Posted by: Siddat Madimbe | November 1, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am
To Jake Tapper:
Worst part is she was told not to say anything until after November 4th.
Same thing Obama campaign has told all his associates and even back to college friends.
Obama has never been vetted.
The media wants this country to go far left.
This is why Obama is for driver’s licenses for illegals and against any ICE raids.
Obama said ICE raids terrorize illegals.
Posted by: Jeff | November 1, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am
Well we may have a vp that has been found guilty. So what happens if she becomes vp?
Posted by: Felton | November 1, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am
After all look at how he picked Palin.
Posted by: Felton | Nov 1, 2008 3:55:43 AM
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We have more worries about a much less experienced Presidential Candidate than a VP candidate. It is the president that we are electing.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
As an Obama supporter I sure hope that the McCain campaign picks up this nasty little tidbit and uses it in the final 48 hours of this election. I dare you, Republicans. USE IT. PLEASE, USE IT.
When you discover that neither Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers and now auntie Obama haven’t worked, you’ll be saluting the Commander in Chief, Mr. Obama.
Posted by: Juan Bautista | November 1, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
Skinny Dog, If Republicans win again we will have a Depression. Get a clue.
I’m NOT voting for any Republicans. They ruin the economy.
Posted by: bubbles | November 1, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
This involves real policy.
Obama is for illegals having driver’s licenes.
Obama wants to tear down construction of vehicle barriers at the border.
Obama said ICE raids terrorize illegals.
Think about that a presidential candidate saying ICE agents who serve under the government are terrorizing illegals who are breaking the law.
Obama wants affirmative action for all ilegals.
Obama wants in state tuition for illegals.
Obama supreme court justices will be pro illegals.
This country has no idea how far left it is going to go with Obama and no checks and balances with pelosi, reid, liberal media.
Obama will pick 6 supreme court justices with no checks and balances from the senate.
Posted by: Dan | November 1, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am
Why did Obama, a sitting US Senator, knew that his Aunt was in the country illegally and he assisted her in entering or staying in this country illegally? Obama also was complicit in accepting her illegal campaign contribution to his campaign. His own campaign have talked with the Aunt and told her not to talk to the press.
Obama is corrupt to his core, just like his criminal friends in Chicago!
Jake, stay on this. Obama has alot of explaining to do, and quite possibly, some federal charges by way of indictment to deal with.
The campaign contribution to Obama from the Aunt was AND is ILLEGAL!
Look up the code!
And Obama never returned the ILLEGAL campaign contribution from his Aunt!
Obama’s Auntie-Gate has come home to roost!
Posted by: USVet | November 1, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am
This election is madness.
McCain is an experienced moderate who has worked across the aisle.
Obama is the most liberal and most partisan member of the senate based on rankings from the national journal.
But we have a media who has given us Obama.
As a republican I could have easily seen this country voting for Hillary because she is far more moderate than Obama. But Obama is far far left and this election is madness.
Posted by: Dan | November 1, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am
ACORN gets illegals to vote.
Obama gave ACORN 800 thousand and his donor list.
Obama has never been vetted.
Obama has been given a free ride to the presidency by the media.
Worst covered election in our nation’s history.
A hero like McCain is used as a punching bag while Obama the most liberal senator is glorified.
This election is unreal.
Posted by: Dan | November 1, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am
Warren Buffett, the third-richest man in the world, has criticised the US tax system for allowing him to pay a lower rate than his secretary and his cleaner.
“If you’re in the luckiest 1 per cent of humanity, you owe it to the rest of humanity to think about the other 99 per cent.”
Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent. Mr Buffett told his audience, which included John Mack, the chairman of Morgan Stanley, and Alan Patricof, the founder of the US branch of Apax Partners, that US government policy had accentuated a disparity of wealth that hurt the economy by stifling opportunity and motivation.
The comments are among the most signficant yet in a debate raging on both sides about growing income inequality and how the super-wealthy are taxed.
(Time UK)
Posted by: Paige | November 1, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am
Another non-story on what used to be an interesting blog. Like the McCain campaign, it is all about attacks around the periphery of Obama’s person, but very, very little substance and virtually no discussion on policy and economic issues. What’s up with this blog? In McCain’s pocket?
Posted by: Casperhistory | November 1, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
Juan Bautista -
McCain doesn’t have to do anything about Obama’s Auntie-Gate scandal. It’s not his problem. It’s Obama’s problem now.
FACT: Obama is in violation of federal law by accepting an illegal campaign contribution form his Aunt, an illegal alien in the US!
Obama has hoodwinked the American people one too many times! The truth is coming out about Obama’s illegal activities and the Obamabots like yourself are losing it!
Support for Dear Leader is crumbling!
Country First!!
PUMA baby!!
Posted by: USVet | November 1, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am
Skinny Dog, If Republicans win again we will have a Depression. Get a clue.
Posted by: bubbles | Nov 1, 2008 4:01:24 AM
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Can you have afford to have a new president diverted to attend investigations of his illegal campaign contributions? It is happening already, and it will consume his entire 4 years, to check and validate every single contributions.
McCain is NO Bush, and he is adequate for 4 years.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am
BO said, “I’m my brothers’ keeper” – about a million times – his brother is living in a hut in Africa on $12/year -and who was he calling selfish? And how many relatives does he have? And how many illegals in this country are costing us how many trillions? But, I’m sure it won’t be a problem for our national security if he is living in the White House & some of his relatives are kidnapped – he doesn’t care about them anyway !!
Posted by: jacque | November 1, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am
Do you want Obama tearing down construction at the border. Do you want Obama stoping all raids on ICE. Do you want Obama giving illegals driver’s licenses.
Do you want hundreds of millions of illegals flooding this country. Do you want Obama appointing supreme court justices who support illegals. This country is about to make another terrible mistake. McCain is not Bush. McCain is his own man. Don’t punish this nation by voting for a far leftist.
Posted by: Dan | November 1, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
The comments against Obama and his relatives are just the words of hatred from those who suport MCCain. They are racist to the core!!!
After President Obama wins, the new constitution will convict and evict out of this new country you racist people.
Vote for CHANGE…not racist MCSAME!
Posted by: jam mista | November 1, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am
FACT:McCaIN & Obama HAVE BEEN in violation of federal law by accepting an illegal campaign contribution form an illegal alien in the US!
IT HAS HAPPENED OVER AND OVER IN THIS CAMPAIGN AND THEY JUST HAVE TO RETURN THE FUNDS!
NO HARM NO FAUL
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
Obama said all U.S troops were doing in Afghanistan were air raiding villages and killing civilians. Obama railed against small town america saying they have antipathy for people that don’t look like them and cling to guns and god.
Posted by: jeff | November 1, 2008, 4:15 am 4:15 am
Then the other immigrants should get to stay too.
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Yep!
Posted by: Mike NC | Nov 1, 2008 3:46:47 AM
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unless you are a blood line of Mr. 0Bama’s.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am
It is not only Obama’s aunt who is living illegally in the USA but there are millions of them. Furthermore, she was seeking asylum but was rejected.
Who cares.
Posted by: I.A.T.SMITH | November 1, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am
Obama is not a Marxist. You guys are such idiots. Obama will raise taxes on people making over $250,000, back to the level it was under Bill Clinton.
Posted by: hotandspicy | November 1, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am
jeff those quotes are taken out of context. I’ve read the entire quotes. get real.
these ‘sound bite’ cheap shots were from the beginning attempts by Republicans to demonize the Democrats and Obama and create a false image.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am
To Nick,
Obama wins mean 6 far left supreme court justices for 30 years.
Obama wins mean permanent left wing laws. Dems have filibuster proof majority in the senate with 60 seats and those laws will never be overturned.
Obama wins means no border enforcement.
Obama wins mean run away spending with pelosi and reid.
An Obama win and we have a one party nation with his open borders and liberal media and his partisan justice department he wants to use to free JENNA 6.
Posted by: Dan | November 1, 2008, 4:19 am 4:19 am
McCain has the same position on immigration as Obama. So give it up.
Posted by: hotandspicy | November 1, 2008, 4:19 am 4:19 am
The saddest thing is that it takes a foreign newspaper, The London Times, to investigate and expose Mr. 0bama’s illegal behaviors.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 4:21 am 4:21 am
To hot and spicy,
Obama said last year in Iowa he would raise social security taxes on everyone.
Obama wants to raise taxes on ammo.
Obama wants to raise taxes on capital gains taxes for middle class people who have invested to put their kids through college.
Obama has voted for higher taxes 94 times on people making as little as 42 thousand.
Obama voted against middle class tax cuts for child tax credits for middle class families.
Obama was against a gas tax break for middle class families.
Obama said on tape he is for spreading the wealth to people like his aunt in public housing.
Posted by: Dan | November 1, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am
‘far left’ ‘left wing’ etc. – phrases made up and stuck in to attempt to make the Democrats look scary.
Give it up man, we can see through these obvious tactics.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am
To pefros,
Obama voted to give a homeowner a felony for protecting his home and family against a robber by using a handgun.
Obama voted to give homeowner Hale Demar a felony for using a handgun in his own home to protect his family and home against a robber.
Obama is far far far left.
Posted by: Steve | November 1, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
Sorry Dan, but that’s false. He’s only raising taxes on people making over $250,000 a year.
Why don’t you get angry when Wall St gets a 750 billion dollar handout that still hasn’t fixed the economy?
Posted by: hotandspicy | November 1, 2008, 4:25 am 4:25 am
The Republican scary words are so obvious.
They tried to make ‘celebrity’ stick to him. They’ve tried to make ‘terrorist’ stick to Obama. They tried to stick ‘socialist’ on him.
Now they’re attempting to stick ‘far left’ on Obama.
It’s just repeated name calling, Rove tactics.
Swift boating tactics are transparent this time around.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am
Why doesn’t ABC news do an expose on the AIP, a sepratist organization that Sarah Palin belongs too? Why don’t they talk more about McCain, who claims to be a Christian, and how he committed adultry? Since they want to sling mud there is plenty to go around.
It is curious to me that the press doesn’t talk more about the Keating seven, which was made up of John McCains’s cronies, including the present President George Bush.
If this lady is like the older people in my family, they are very private. She may not have said anything to Obama about the situation. In case some have not noticed he has been extremely busy on the campaign trail.
We should wait and see if there is even any truth to this.
Posted by: alani | November 1, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am
back to the level it was under Bill Clinton.
Posted by: hotandspicy | Nov 1, 2008 4:18:13 AM
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It is as if a century ago, but is it my memory fading that 0-Bama wanted to turn the page, the Clinton’s page, into “Our Time”, “0bama’s Time”?
Now he wants to go back to Bill Clinton?
Hypocrisy is so common for 0bama, but he really has been lying all along.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am
To pefros,
Obama’s senate voting record was ranked the most liberal in the whole senate by national journal.
He was ranked more liberal than bernie sanders the socialist in the senate.
These are his votes.
His votes show he is far far far left.
Hillary was far more in the middle and she got more votes and was cheated out.
As a republican I would have been fine with Hillary.
Posted by: Dan | November 1, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am
hot and spicy,
That is only for payroll taxes,
There are many more ways to tax people.
Posted by: Jeff | November 1, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am
Re: “Obama’s senate voting record was ranked the most liberal in the whole senate by national journal.”
Have you ever looked up his record? Ted Kennedy is more liberal than Obama. So is Bernie Sanders, and so is Hillary. (She wants universal healthcare.)
Posted by: hotandspicy | November 1, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am
Be It Known,
Whereas there are 100 US Senators,
Whereas there is only One who wrote exactly Zero legislation,
Zero is that One.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am
Republicans=Great Depression
Posted by: bubbles | November 1, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am
McCain calls himself a Christian and commits adultry. Palin calls herself a Christian and lies at the drop of a hat. She threw her own children under the bus to further her political ambitions. I bet if she does not win, that, “Baby Daddy”, of her daughter will be in the wind. He does not even campaign with her anymore. Probably can’t stand that whiny nasal voice of hers.
Posted by: alani | November 1, 2008, 4:33 am 4:33 am
So we can expect the Republican shills in here to now endlessly repeat ‘far left’ since that’s what the McCain talking points became . .. what could we scare them with next? I know! Let’s call him ‘far left’ . . . we’ve tried everything else.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 4:34 am 4:34 am
I hope Obama wins Arizona as well as the White House Im so tired of this smear and fear politics spun by McCain and his supporters!
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am
So we can expect the Republican shills in here to now endlessly repeat ‘far left’ I know! Let’s call him ‘far left’ . . . we’ve tried everything else.
Posted by: pefros | Nov 1, 2008 4:34:43 AM
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Mr. pefros,
You are too generous to the evil Republicans. This democrat, voting only not the demo pres candidate, has analyzed and concluded that Mr. 0bama is no far left. Mr. 0bama is a Socialist.
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 4:38 am 4:38 am
It would be funny if McSame lost Arizona.
Posted by: bubbles | November 1, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
I THINK THAT POLITICIAN’S FAMILIES SHOULD BE OFF LIMITS.
Posted by: Nancy | November 1, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am
Folks do you know what they call the radical far right in Afghanistan? “The Talibans”
Posted by: Alois | November 1, 2008, 4:42 am 4:42 am
A Socialist
Explain how ?
Was Clinton a Socialist ?
Was Reagan a Socialist ?
Its so stupid!
Putting the tax rate back to where it was under Clinton and Reagan and giving the middle class a real tax cut doesnt make Obama a Socialist.
It makes people saying it STUPID!
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 4:42 am 4:42 am
As a republican I would have been fine with Hillary.
Posted by: Dan | Nov 1, 2008 4:27:50 AM
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As a democrat I voted for Hillary.
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 4:42 am 4:42 am
I hope the Republicans right wing loses just for their sleazy Rove tactics . . . they give a slimy name to America.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am
A Socialist
Explain how ?
Was Clinton a Socialist ?
Was Reagan a Socialist ?
Posted by: Mike NC | Nov 1, 2008 4:42:37 AM
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Mike NC,
You can scrawl down or search my post, by d0, for an explanation. And,
No, a true visionary who brought an unprecedented period of peace and prosperity of the country,
No, a person who knows little under his nose.
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
Obama, yes powered by his own corruption
This is that family he cares so deeply about that lets one of its members LIVE IN A BOSTON SLUM! Don’t worry he’ll play dumb and make up an excuse and the media lapdogs will continually kiss his you know what! Just remember he will bring about change and that he constantly contradicts himself on all his own policies! Are people just so blindsided that he’s an eloquent speaker? His use of robin hood rhetoric is so popular that they are ignoring all his problems which include any experience of any form of governing! Its amazing how in 2 yrs how much “change” will go the other way when the democrats will be kicked out of office and he becomes a lame duck president!
Posted by: robert | November 1, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am
Obama’s aunt is here illegally and has donated to his campaign which is illegal as well.
Kinda sums up his whole campaign doesn’t it!
Posted by: nicole | November 1, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am
Hat tip to Wes
from a former Republican now solid Obama supporter!
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 4:58 am 4:58 am
put me solidly for Obama.
Posted by: Wes | Nov 1, 2008 4:55:35 AM
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Pity. What you do or support is not for me, it is for you. In case you still think what you think, I have not voted for a rep presidential candidate before, and 0bama is probably the only demo not getting my vote.
Posted by: skinny dog | November 1, 2008, 5:01 am 5:01 am
WHERE ARE PALINS MEDICAL RECORDS! I would like to know how many children she really had!
Posted by: jen | November 1, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am
I’m a Republican who used to be an independent who used to vote Democrat who has now switched to Independent – and I’m voting Obama.
Why? Because the Republicans had 8 years in the White House and were an international embarassment, created ASTRONOMICAL deficits of billions and billions of dollars and attacked and killed tens of thousands of Iraqis ‘for their own good’.
McCain is using the same sleazy tactics George W. Bush used. He is the same as Bush – under the influence of the slimy right wing of his party.
Forget it. The Republicans will be rightfully booted out of office by the electorate.
Go gracefully.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 5:05 am 5:05 am
hat tip to pefros
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
It’s funny how everyone keeps calling Obama a socialist, yet if their house is being robbed, they call the police, a socialized institution. If their house is ever burning down, they call the fire department, another socialized institution. Code enforcement, building inspection… America has plenty of socialism already and let’s not even forget about the B I L L I O N S we recently gave to unworthy companies who failed, by themselves. My favorite, though, is the tax breaks to the top 2% percent of America. That’s the best.
Posted by: Andrew | November 1, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am
Why doesn’t Sen. Obama :spread the wealth” around to his family? If it’s good enough for the country, why isn’t it good enough for his brother living on a dollar a day in Kenya and his aunt living in the projects in Boston? Doesn’t make much sense to me and I hope not to anyone else. He should take 3% of his money and give it to the people in his family living in poverty. How can a guy who gives less than half a percent of his income to charity preach about “spreading the wealth around”? Wait until the media gets a hold of this.
Posted by: mike the cook | November 1, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
dO your characterization of Senator Obama’s remarks are the Republican cartoon characterizations of what he said.
Try looking at the entire quote and see what he was actually saying – expressing empathy that the government has so alienated people (and the economy is changing so radically) that all people can count on for sure is their bible and their gun.
You’re repeating dummy Republican Rove talking points.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
Lets see the history of McCain reaching out to the other half of his family “the Black McCains” who were descendants from slavery.
The politics of distraction ! We just need to ask ourselves does this story add any value to what’s going on in my life.
I see the truth about Obama in the interaction with his daughters and wife, he has shown what a great father he is, and that image does not measure up with any of the images that the adulturer and womanizer John McCain is trying to portray. Lets not forget that McCain’s daughter switched from being an independent to a republican only when it was made public, and her dad seemed to be winning. He focuses on his POW past, but as a Dad and husband he seems to have had some failures when he didn’t even know his wife was in pain.
That’s the true measure of a man.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Donna | November 1, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am
McCain is using the same sleazy Rove tactics George W. Bush used. He is the same as Bush – under the influence of the slimy right wing of his party.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am
This just shows how the Bush Presidency has failed.
Obama ’08
Posted by: Chad | November 1, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
skinny dog,
Then that is YOUR choice and you reached it for the reasons which were important to you, that’s fine. But please don’t use smears to try to influence others. We have heard so much of this nonsense now all it is doing is causing people in the middle to stop listening and so little of it has even a modicum of truth. It just ends up pushing people the other direction.
All of these attacks have for the most part been attacks of the style of that lunatic Andrew Martin, baseless. If someone puts stock in what that crackpot says, then they have my sympathy but certainly not my ear. Corsi isn’t any better either by the way.
Again, I will offer the advice to the people supporting McCain mostly, but to those supporting Obama as well, return to civil discourse, rip each other apart on policy, but enough of the smears.
If you want people to consider supporting your candidate and your choice, do it with some integrity. Otherwise you are doing your candidate a grave disservice.
Posted by: Wes | November 1, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am
If Obama can’t even help his aunt, (or his Kenyan brother for that matter), why should anyone seriously hope to believe he will be a good POTUS.
Obama obviously has the means to help his aunt. For heavens sake he was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review, I’m sure he knows a couple of immigration attorneys that could’ve helped his aunt with her status.
Again and again Obama’s life deeds don’t live up to his words. Obama should not be elected president especially when America has a chance to vote for a real life hero like John McCain.
Posted by: nicole | November 1, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am
“I see the truth about Obama in the interaction with his daughters and wife, he has shown what a great father he is . ..”
Donna, this is really true! We see the real warmth and intelligence of the man in his interactions with his family.
There really seems to be something creepy, cold, mean and angry about the Bush McCain candidate.
He looked unhinged during several of the presidential debates. I will not put any part of my fate in his hands.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 5:22 am 5:22 am
But please don’t use smears to try to influence others.
Posted by: Wes | Nov 1, 2008 5:16:35 AM
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What I said is fact and can be validated. It is my duty that I donate my valuable time to defeat an unfit presidential candidate. It is the my constitutional duty. You may disagree with me, but I respect what you decide. Just be honest to yourself. The republican party’s fault is not a pass for another unfit president.
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am
nicole,
Now I am sure you know it is Obama’s half brother and not his “brother”. Regardless, I am also sure you know that George Obama does not want any help, he is doing what he wants to do, use his education to help his people. He is happy, so don’t let it upset you. If you don’t believe it, go read the BBC interview with him many months back.
By the way, he said he is very proud of his half brother.
Posted by: Wes | November 1, 2008, 5:24 am 5:24 am
This smears will work for Maccain leaners …. they will finally decide to vote for maccain.
But it’s not strong enough to sway Obama supporters a bit.
Posted by: zen | November 1, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am
Something is very odd here. If Obama’s aunt is illegal, why would the Boston Housing Authority allow her to live in public housing for FOUR years illegally? It’s public record when someone is denied asylum and forced to leave the country. Also, if Obama knew his aunt was illegal and wanted to hide it from everyone, why in the world would he allow her to live in public housing in a big city like Boston for the past FOUR years? He is not a stupid man. Something is very odd here.
Posted by: tom | November 1, 2008, 5:26 am 5:26 am
Mr. Obama is the most hypocritical candidate our history has ever known. He preached to others what he himself cannot do.
Posted by: young_voter | November 1, 2008, 5:27 am 5:27 am
d0,
You as does everyone, made your choice based on what is important to you. I made mine based on what I feel is important. Some of them I am sure overlap and others we disagree on which is fine with me. All I ask is that you respect others choice even if it is not the same as your own. You in turn deserve the same respect.
Posted by: Wes | November 1, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am
The is something wrong with this Obama Guy….. NOBAMA ’08…!
Posted by: Joe V | November 1, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am
This is stupid.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | November 1, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am
tom,
Exactly! And why would she be allowed to go over the $200 limit on contributions if they were trying to cover something up? It makes no logical sense.
Posted by: Wes | November 1, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am
Mike NC,
You still do not seem to understand my point. Fortunately, I can afford 0bama’s taxes and I do not need his charity also, but I contribute my way, not his way. This, nevertheless, is not what worries me, at all.
It is the class war, class struggle, that he engaged in, such that he uses 95% of Americans against the other 5% Americans. Where is his slogan a “united states of America” that made everyone feeling so good? This is a classic example of Class Warfare, Class Struggle, and that is Socialism. The 20th century history has shown it, not just American history.
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am
oh, PAHLEEZE! Do you think for a minute, if this HALF aunt, was here illegal, your nuts! Especially since we are talking about the Presidency here!!!
This will have no bearing on voters. It should have NO bearing on voters.
Obama/Biden 2008!!!
Posted by: Richard | November 1, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am
d0,
Just imagine, if you are Maccain supporters or leaned toward Maccain and then you hear that Maccain’s father’s half sister is illegaly staying in US, you will change your mind to vote for Obama?
Just think and answer.
Unless Obama himself didn’t do any illegal stuff , this story will not make any impact a bit. Mark my word.
Posted by: zen | November 1, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am
Here is the October Surprise. Cheney is related to Obama. Oh, you knew that and nobody cared. . . .
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | November 1, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am
You’re delusional dO.
I make $3.5 million per year and I can afford lots more taxes and I’m willing to contribute to help pull this country out of the mess the Republicans created under Bush, Cheney, Rove, etc.
It’s not class warfare, it’s a 3% increase in my taxes. I’m rich – I can afford it. Relax.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am
Jake,
I thought Palin was going to release her medical records.
Posted by: jen | November 1, 2008, 5:42 am 5:42 am
McCain is using the same sleazy Rove tactics George W. Bush used. He is the same as Bush – under the influence of the slimy right wing of his party. No change there. No change at all.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 5:42 am 5:42 am
Wes,
Yes he’s a half brother but you are missing the point.
Full brother or half brother the point is that Obama professes to be a great healer of situations & problems and believes he is qualified to help those of lesser means.
But where’s the beef?
Obama has very little hard concrete accomplishments to point us to in this regard…doesn’t that bother you?
So when stories like his half-brother and now his aunt come up and he’s had so little postivie effect on their lives…..it makes his campaign promises ring hollow.
Obama should be proud for his coming this far in the campaign and should know that losing a race to an American hero like John McCain was a very good thing in the end.
Posted by: nicole | November 1, 2008, 5:44 am 5:44 am
nicole it’s sad you think you can decide anything on the basis of gossip about someone’s relatives.
Go right ahead, but it’s a pathetic way to make an important decision.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 5:49 am 5:49 am
How many of these McSanes are responsible for their Aunts…Hello people, I have aunts that I haven’t spoken to for years and lives in the same state…Aunts are Aunts just that…They live their own lives…Just something else to distract from the real issue…NOT THIS TIME
McSane will be blown out.
Posted by: shar2008 | November 1, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am
Ron Reagan (President and Nancy Reagan’s son) has just endorsed Senator Obama for President.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 5:55 am 5:55 am
I have to agree with nicole: where’s the beef? While I find it odd that Obama’s aunt is living illegally in public housing, I know from a very good friend of mine who has lived in Chicago his whole life that Obama hasn’t done very much there. Obama has also run a very similar campaign to that of Rod Blagojevich, the democratic governor of Illinois whose about to be indicted on corruption charges and whose approval rating is the worst in the country: 13 percent. And Obama’s ties to this man are disturbing.
Posted by: tom | November 1, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am
Zen,
You are absolutely correct, which is also the most frustrating thing. Those who made up their minds will not change, no matter what. They do not seem to understand party loyalty is only important to the politicians.
If ask your question back. If the Republican party selected someone of 0bama after the disastrous 8 years, are you really going to support him, honestly? Isn’t it what you have been saying of Palin? Perhaps, she did not have 0bama’s opportunity of Columbia and Harvard; for God sake she is a governor of one of the 50 states, and the people elected her, and she seems to have done a good job. A republican with 80% approval rate under the current atmosphere. She has done nothing, like 0-bama?
Do you know Zero-bama is the only senator of 100 who did not write a single legislation?
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 5:57 am 5:57 am
Ya know this is really such “small potatoes” as far as being newsworthy or even influential on anyone’s reasoning to change their vote. Just because someone has a multitude of dispersed relatives that are ‘half’ related by marriage, and these are having a hard time financially or legally doesn’t make it automatic for him to come to their aide, especially if they are not directly connected in his immediate life. I’m wondering how much aide and comfort McInsane gave his ex-wife during her illness and ordeal. MmmHmm?
Posted by: KimK | November 1, 2008, 5:58 am 5:58 am
“nicole it’s sad you think you can decide anything on the basis of gossip about someone’s relatives.
Go right ahead, but it’s a pathetic way to make an important decision.”
Gossip? Who said it was gossip? Is that the new Obama strategy to answering critics that these stories are just gossip?
What the race card wasn’t working for you anymore. Or the oh they’re just desperate bringing up all my associations.
It’s all so Wizard of Oz “don’t look at the man behind the curtain” with the Obama campaign and his minions.
Posted by: nicole | November 1, 2008, 5:58 am 5:58 am
Wow.. I am upset and I am angered… This is there Oct surprise? I don’t like it, but how the heck was HE suppose to know? She should have NOT donated. This upsets with me with HER not HIM!
Posted by: Independant American Woman | November 1, 2008, 5:59 am 5:59 am
I just don’t think McCain is mentally alert enough to handle the presidency. Who would this leave?? Sarah O’Palin…….I just don’t want her anywhere near the BIG RED button!
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 6:03 am 6:03 am
Americans who want to deport an elderly old woman back to a war-torn country have lost their path.
Posted by: Matt | November 1, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am
Obama the liar, deceiver would say anything to win. He cannot be trusted. People wake up before it’s too late, and read about Obama and all his empty promises. He continues to change his tune every day all policies that matter to all Americans. Obama knew about his aunt and i am sure about her being illegal here. Maybe he figured that the media has done an excellent job as keeping things from the people that this one too would slide under the radar. Obama is a liar, promising tax cuts for everyone but the rich, sounds to me like deceiving the voters into voting for him.
NOBAMA
LATINOS AGAINST OBAMA
Posted by: pbencosme | November 1, 2008, 6:07 am 6:07 am
Yes nicole . .. gossip and rumours about a candidate’s relatives. Go ahead make up your mind on that – fine with me.
And regarding your ‘race card’ comment:
I find it most often happens that right wingers come here and accuse the Democrats of throwing race in their face when the Democrats haven’t been mentioning race at all.
Just like you did now.
That’s the truth of the ploy.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 6:08 am 6:08 am
drill baby drill, cry baby cry
Posted by: gteno | November 1, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am
You have got to be kidding me. LOL They are throwing everything they can. I am raising my cousin because his mother is on drugs does that make me an evil person. Good grief! Just handle the situation if she is going to be sent back then handle it. If only we had control over our extended family. LOL Who cares!!!!!!
Posted by: prettylittetee | November 1, 2008, 6:11 am 6:11 am
“Americans who want to deport an elderly old woman back to a war-torn country have lost their path.”
This should read:
An American who never helped a relative not get deported has no path.
Which means we Americans have no idea what path Obama is going to take us down.
But according to Joe the Biden we aren’t going to like it…..mark his words.
Posted by: nicole | November 1, 2008, 6:12 am 6:12 am
nicole
Why are all you posts so hate filled ?
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 6:15 am 6:15 am
Ron Reagan: I Endorse Barack Obama
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
WASHINGTON — Democrat Barack Obama on Friday won endorsements from two unlikely newspapers – the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times.
While the Tribune is the largest daily in Obama’s hometown, the publication hasn’t backed a Democrat in its 161-year history. And the Times hasn’t endorsed a presidential candidate since 1972.
Posted by: pefros | November 1, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
The saddest consequence will be that this woman will be deported.
The ugliest is that somebody violated Federal & Privacy Laws ( surely on behalf and with acquiescence of the Bush administration /McCain campaign)and provided this info to the AP.McCain must have known it because he said “we have them just where we want them to be”.
The best would be that in spite of this shameful affair, Sen.Obama wins in a landslide. He has no control over what all of his relatives,half-relatives do and he is promising a government with Republicans and Independents included!
Posted by: carmen | November 1, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am
“Democrats haven’t been mentioning race at all.”
Thee biggest Democrat in the world right now, Barack Obama, used the race card on several occassions.
And don’t pretend you have no idea what I’m talking about. You know the famous line “They’re gonna tell you I don’t look like……” yada, yada, yada.
Hey does anyone else see Jim and Pefros for what they really are?
People who are only good at calling others names and obfuscating stories about Obama…..telling Americans don’t bother questioning or oh it’s just gossip or don’t believe your lyin eyes.
This is a constant tactic by the Obama campaign and his supporters.
Posted by: nicole | November 1, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
ZOGBY SATURDAY: Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error… The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama’s lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all…
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | November 1, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
Barack Obama has called americans who don’t want to support his aunt selfish. He is too good to support his own aunt with his 4M, but the taxpayer should feel good about sending their money to pay for housing and whatever else she is receiving or be called selfish. Obama make 4M a year thinks that americans making 42K a year should support his family in the country illegally.
Posted by: ubu1991 | November 1, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am
“Why are all you posts so hate filled?”
Why do you consider it hateful that I want someone’s words to match their deeds?
Posted by: nicole | November 1, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am
Is this the lomg awaited October surprise? Ridiculous.
Posted by: alagbon | November 1, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am
If his aunt is staying here illegally then is it not the fault of the INS. They should deport people back whose refugee claims have been denied. This is the Federal Government not doing its job. Why is this Obama’s fault? she is after all his half aunt from his father’s side. By the Way where is the expose on Todd Palin and his links to the Alaska Indepenance Party?
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
Obama doesn’t care about his own aunt, why do people think he care about them. I wonder if Obama’s aunt is a voter? We know that she is a non-citizen who contributed to his campaign. Obama will do to the country what he did to his aunt. Obama the picture of social responsibility.
Posted by: ubu1991 | November 1, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am
Nine days and counting for Palins promised release of her medical records!
Posted by: jim | November 1, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
If anyone has been through the immigration system they know it takes years. She may have been adjudged for deportation but with appeals etc. it could take years before she is deported due to “due process”. It is impossible to be a documented alien who has filed an asylum case, and been adjudged for deportation to still be in the US because immigration is efficient at deporting documented aliens yet so deficient in deporting those who are not documented. Anyone who files an asylum case has the legal right to do so and is immediately issues work documents and a social security card. It is clear to me that this woman is legally in the US depending final deportation orders. Typical republicans to misrepresent their own immigration republican judges and law enforcement just to win a point. it has been 19 years with respect to a friend of mine and no final decision has been reached on their immigration case. If one institution needs overhauling it is immigration.
Posted by: Sally | November 1, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
This isn’t an October surprise. Though it is just another connection of Obama’s that isn’t a very uplifting story.
Let’s see we have Rev. Wright – angry, racist, American hating person.
Fr. Pfleger – ditto
Tony Rezko – slum lord Obama funneled money to and people lived worse lives because of it.
Williams Ayers – former domestic terrorist anti-American who Obama worked with and funneled money to on education which didn’t help improve students grades.
Where’s the hope in any of this?
Posted by: nicole | November 1, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am
I am livid that Obama has audacity to call americans who pay taxes from the time they get up in the morning until the time they go to sleep selfish.
Lights on – Utility Tax
Shower = Tax on Water & Sewage
Drive to Work – Gas Tax
Work – Payroll & Income Taxes
Clothes – Sales tax
Expressway = Tolls
Dividends = Taxes
Capital Gains = Taxes
House = Property Taxes
Obama looks at our taxes and thinks that we are not paying enough. At the end of the year after paying taxes on everything we touch, Obama thinks we are selfish.
I would think that a little graditude is in order from him rather than name calling.
Posted by: ubu1991 | November 1, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am
The Obama campaign’s far bigger problem is, however, that Hillary Clinton has joined the “Justice Department and (Republican) White House officials, the McCain/Palin campaign, and the RNC” in accusing not merely ACORN but the Obama campaign itself of Tammany Hall-style election tactics: “voter suppression, intimidation, and harassment systematically engaged in by the Obama campaign, its allies and supporters.” Senator Clinton is at least nominally supporting Obama today, but she left Obama the electoral equivalent of a ticking time bomb in January: a letter from campaign counsel Lyn Utrecht that accuses the Obama campaign of voter suppression, intimidation, and harassment during the Nevada caucuses. The letter is online as of October 27 2008 (backup here). Now comes the October surprise that will bring Obama crashing down; it is time for PUMAs, Republicans, Joe the Plumbers, and all other patriotic Americans to circulate the following optical character recognition transcript as widely as possible. (We also sent it to McCain/Palin, but we cannot count on that campaign’s bureaucracy to act on it with a nationally televised advertisement.)
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | November 1, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am
If whomever released this story wsas trying to help McCain, big mistake. Americans do not take kindly to families of political candidates being harrased to score cheap political points. This only makes people feel sorry for Obama’s aunt. This is a disaster for McCain. It’s one thing if the woman was a young man in the United States illegally comitting crimes. She is a very old woman. Most NORMAL Americans will feel sorry for her and lament the fact that she has become a political football for Republicans.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am
ubu1991
Please stop making stuff up. Obama never called tax payers selfish. He was specifically refering to McCain/Palin/Bush tax policies that rewards the rich at the expense of the middleclass. Yes, that’s selfish.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am
I came to US when I was 18 and finished the MBA degree. I work and have a good life. Now back home on my father’s side I have so many relatives I can’t count. My grandfather had 2 marriages with 16 children. My direct grandmother which was his first wife remarried and had 6 more kids with another man (my half aunts a uncles) who all have like 20 children and 10 grandchildren. The uncles from another wife of my grandfather are scattered all around the world. Plus I have 4 first degree uncles who all have kids. My grandmother is poor, but she doesn’t even know my name. The last time I saw her I was 5 years old. Some of the uncles live in France, some in Germany and have children. I know that one of them is in prison. On my mother’s side I have 5 uncles and 12 nieces. The bottom line is they have pride and would never ask for charity. One niece has Down syndrome so I make sure to send some money for her from time to time. They know that I never asked for nothing when I was poor. They live the way all people live there and work. I take care of my disabled brother and my parents, plus my 3 kids. And that hasn’t been easy.
Anyway Obama’s aunt is not poor; she works and leads a nice life. So stop being hypocrites and leave them alone. You know nothing about other cultures.
Posted by: ed | November 1, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
Response to Nicole: Re: Obama’s associations:
1) Sarah Palin with the Alaska Independance Party – the group that wants Alaska to secede from the U.S. If this is not treason then what is?
2) Her association in the church with the witchhunting pastor.
3) McCain’s association with the Keating Five.
4) McCain having as one of his main advisors a man who lobbied on behalf of Saddam Hussein.
5)The right wing people constantly bring up Ayers. He was funded by the Anenberg’s who are great friends of Ronald Reagan and who support McCain.
6) McCain’s endorser Rev Hagee who spewed some of the most vitriloc things against the Catholic Church and Israel.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am
3 days to go. McCain head fell of last week..It will take time for his body to recognize it. [Anyone wanting this country to go down the toilet should vote Republican and John McCain and let them finish off America like they being doing the last 8 years.]
Posted by: Stone | November 1, 2008, 7:05 am 7:05 am
Steave Cuozzo
Lol. You are citing Zogby poll? Let me tell you something: Zogby is the most foolish pollster in the entire universe, not just the U.S. They were so bad that Real Clear politics stopped using them for while. In fact, Zogby was so bad that they called Ohio for Obama (the only pollster that did). If Zogby says it’s B, believe that the truth is A. Zogby is not credible. All they go for is sensationalism. Lets see what Rasmussen reports, Gallup (all 3 polls), Hotline Diaego, IBD/TIPP, ABC News polls, and Research 2000 have to say about yesterday’s polling before celebrating McCain’s surge. Anybody that knows how polls work knows that someone that is down near double digits cannot suddenly close the gap in one evening without something big happening. Ask yourself this question: What exactly happened yesterday to cause this INCREDIBLE McCain surge? What, did Osama Bin Laden endorse Obama? Rev. Wright released another round of greatest hits? Lol, Zogby is a fraud.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am
So lets see I will mention my aunty in a million dollar making book but I dont really have much to do or know where she is. Things that make you go hmmmmm???
Posted by: mona | November 1, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am
Glad to see the Boston news stations carrying this story about Obama’s aunt living in the local elderly housing. Maybe now, all of those who posted here will wait to hear the how and whys of How did she get housing etc.? She was told to keep her story out of the news until after the election Nov 4…..Interesting, guess the Obama campaign couldn’t keep this under wraps but this is a MAJOR story in Boston this morning. And it won’t be swept under a rug……………stay tuned.
Posted by: jmm | November 1, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
mona
Your assertion is not very bright. I have written about people who’s whereabout i have no idea. We write from memory, and memory runs deep and long. I know i have an aunt somewhere in NY. I used to be close to her but have not seen her in nearly 15 years. She might even be dead now, but i have no clue. If i wrote a biography, i’m sure she will make it into the pages on my book. So please, show some intelligence. I know you are Republican, but that’s not an excuse to be this daft.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
Many people will get their wish very soon and there will be a third party. There will be the Democratic Party, a New Republican Party that returns to their roots of Lincoln, and the 30% of the wack jobs that follow Limbaugh, Drudge, Hannity, Palin and Joe the Plumber who currently make up this modern day Republican Party.
Posted by: jim | November 1, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
Classy move, Bush/McCain.
You guys must be so proud – me first/country second.
Posted by: KnowThyself | November 1, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
jmm
Are you suggesting that Obama’s campaign helped her get public housing? Are you suggesting that this story hurts Obama’s campaign? That very funny. This story actually helps Obama.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am
Thank goodness there’s more than one source for getting the news. These excepts are from yesterday’s Boston Globe report.
“Onyango, who is paid a small stipend for working as a health advocate in her housing complex, has shunned attention.”
“For three years, she was a volunteer with Experience Corps, a nonprofit that trains adults over 55 to work with children in public schools, said Mary Gunn, the group’s executive director.”
“In a profile on the Experience Corps website, Onyango is described as a ‘former computer systems coordinator’ who says she wanted to volunteer in the schools because ‘I felt that I should help the children in my community.’”
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am
What a hay day for the press, if Obama was harboring an alleged illegal aunt. This story doesn’t cut it…
Posted by: John | November 1, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am
There will be a vicious backlash against the Republican party for this story. The problem with Republicans is that they think most Americans are as nuts as they are. They go and dig up this poor woman’s story and humiliate her publicly just to get at Obama. Most Americans will not look kindly on this mess. This is a disgrace. This has gone TOO far.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am
Kevin
Wrong, he was addressing the issue of taxpayers who didn’t wish for their taxes to go up and he called them selfish. Perhaps it didn’t irritate you so much because you are a tax taker in lieu of a taxpayer.
The good news is that I have already decided which of my 8 employees I will fire when Obama raises my taxes. That will be 53K to offset my additional tax burden. I will save on insurance, workers come and payroll taxes too. Additional good news will be that my other employees will be so greatful for a job that they won’t expect a raise and will work harder.
Posted by: ubu1991 | November 1, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am
Common Sense,
The Globe article claims she works……..stop the presses, you need a Social Security number for that. Is she paying taxes…..?? Is she here Illegally OR NOT? If so, where is the INS??
Posted by: jmm | November 1, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am
All these people criticizing Obama for not taking care of his extended family need to tell me how many members of their extended family they cater to. This is ridiculous. It is not Obama’s responsibility to cater to adults that are not members of his immediate family. Besides his family is so large that if he catered to them, that’s all he’ll be doing his entire life. Republicans have lost their minds. This is why America is so eager to give them the boot.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am
Kevin
You hit the nail right on the head with Obama and the backlash. Joe the Plumber has seen the backlash; television stations that have asked Biden questions have seen the backlash and now newspaper reporters have seen the backlash. We can hardly wait for the backlash from the IRS and FBI and other federal agencies (funded by selfish taxpayers) if Obama is elected.
Posted by: ubu1991 | November 1, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
Kevin says “All these people criticizing Obama for not taking care of his extended family need to tell me how many members of their extended family they cater to. This is ridiculous.”
I guess there are a lot of punks who do not take care of their families. Everyone that I know has an old relative that they are caring for.
Posted by: today | November 1, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
feminist50,
All those people you point out that Palin ‘pals around with’ are rich. The republicans don’t count them as bad associations for that simple fact. They believe all rich people are the same and rich people never do anything wrong. They support any and all welfare for rich people.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
ubu1991
Pleases stop pretending to be a small business owner. i see through that lie so easily, you humiliate yourself with your pettiness. Obama said about McCaina nd Palin, and i quote, “I don’t know when they decided to make selfishness a virtue.” Now you go and base your interpretation off of Jake Tappers interpretation of what Obama said. Well, i disagree with you. You are an extremist. But then again, it takes wack job to think the way you do.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
If Obama’s half-aunt has been living illegally in the United States since 2004 then is it not the fault of the Bush Administration fro not enforcing their own immigration laws. If anything this shows the incompetence of the Bush government. They have an obligation to make sure that people who have been ordered deported are deported. Why do they blame their incomptence on Obama?
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am
It is the thinking that it is governement’s responsibility to take care of your family that is the problem. We should take care of our extended family and some of us do take care of our extended families. If you are not willing to take care of your extended family why should I take care of your extended family?
Posted by: ubu1991 | November 1, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am
today
The last time i checked, Obama was taking care of his grandma. Isn’t that a member of his extended family? You are such a hypocrite with your selectivism. Obama meets your criteria, but you ignore that blatantly just to hurl stones. Nutjob.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am
A non-story.
Obama will be the next president in a landslide.
He keeps increasing his lead and has the best ground game ever.
Obama beat who you idiot Republicans were never able to beat. A Clinton
So you guys are nothing to him.
Nov. 4 a very sad day for Repubs
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am
It makes perfect sense, Obama believes in letting the government take care of the people, well this is a good example how he will take care of the welfare recipients, if we are waiting for our welfare check, we can live in luxury in a rundown government housing facilty, I don’t see the problem, today is the 1st Obama where is my check ???
Fellow Welfare Recipients Please Vote Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Alexis | November 1, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am
jmm,
No. You don’t need a social security card to work in America. Ask any H1B.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am
ubu1991
There are more than 100 members of Obama’s extended family. Are you suggesting that it was his responsibility to take care of 100 people? I think you have mental problems. In America, we rise or fall by our own efforts, not the efforts of our extended family members. You step on the heart of your own logic.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
Kevin says “The last time i checked, Obama was taking care of his grandma. Isn’t that a member of his extended family? You are such a hypocrite with your selectivism. Obama meets your criteria, but you ignore that blatantly just to hurl stones. Nutjob.”
You are the hypocrite. First you said that you did not know of anyone taking care of their relatives. In terms of Obama taking care of his grandmother, she lives in a 150 square foot squalid apartment. When he went to visit her, he left two days before her birthday. Obama flew out in his huge jet and did not take any family. He could have picked up his uncle in Chicago – no he flew out in an empty plane.
All of that points to Obama looking like a punk. Not a hypocrite, but a punk.
Posted by: today | November 1, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
ZOGBY SATURDAY: McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday poll.
He is beginning to cut into Obama’s lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all…
The AP reported today that 1 in 7 voters are still persuadable.
This is NOT good news for the Obama Campaign.
Posted by: Hero | November 1, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am
and hero that Zogby poll doesn’t mean nothing. Look at all the other ones.
Obama is leading by an avg of 6-11 points on them.
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am
today
My point was that regarding the extended family, you do what you can. Grand parents are different. Most people do not consider them extended family. But i ask again: Do you expect Obama to take care of all 100 members of his extended family? it’s a simple question. Give me a yes or no answer.
Cindt McCain’s half sister just died on poverty. I don’t hear you complaining about that. But then aagin, aren’t Republicans the biggest of hypocrites?
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am
today, your not a democrat
quit lying
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am
Who cares? McCain is getting pretty desparate! Did anyone say scrapings! Is that all you got? Obama 08
Posted by: Tanya | November 1, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am
Hero said:
It keeps getting uglier.
The only thing that is going to be ugly is the democratic beatdown on republicans on election day.
This race is over.
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am
today
Rev. Wright is not racist. Racism is “racial discrimination brought about by a feeling of racial superiority.” Rev. Wright said some incindiary things, but he never made racist comments. He complained about the racial attitudes of whites against blacks, but that was more victimization and not racism. Please get your understanding of the word, racism, right before humiliating yourself. By the way, i am not defending Rev. Wright. I think he is a moron. But idiocy is hardly racism.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
Kevin
I support my extended family and others. I pay for all educational expenses for 2 family members and all of my employees (including books), I even paid for SAT tutors; I have paid medical bills (until the deductible is met); apartment deposits; utility deposits; purchased complete nurseries for babies; routinely purchased diapers and food for both extended family and my employees. I generously donate to numerous organizations both monetarily and with goods.
I don’t think that the government can spend my money better than I can.
Posted by: ubu1991 | November 1, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
How come no stories on Todd palin’s ties to the Alsaka Independance party and Sara palin speaking at their covention. Isn’t that TREASON?
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
I love how the republicans throw everything out against Obama to see if anything sticks and nothing has or will.
He’s like a Clinton. Someone they were never able to beat.
I find that very funny and truly love listening to all this republicans complain because they know the end is coming and they don’t like it.
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
Hero
Research 2000 just released their poll and they had Obama out-polling Mccain by 9 points last night. let’s wait for Rasmussen, Gallup, Abc News tracking poll, IBD/TIPP, and Hitline Diaego. Zogby is a sensationalist. After they called Ohio for Obama and Obama lost by near double digits, i concluded that they were nuts.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
No one knows all the facts. Leave the poor old woman alone. Perhaps she wants her privacy and does not want charity from her nephew. This is a non-issue. Families should be off limits and no one should be making assumptions.
Obama/Biden
Posted by: jen | November 1, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
today said:
The democratic party has become the party of hate and name calling.
No, that would be the Republican party. Just listen to the right-wing radio lunatics such as Rush and Hannity nothing but hate.
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am
Kevin says ‘Rev. Wright is not racist. Racism is “racial discrimination brought about by a feeling of racial superiority.”‘
That is a cute justification of fascism. People who say all of the problems of the world are caused by Jews as Rev Wright does are racists. Rev Wright is a punk and a hate monger. As is Farrakhan, who Rev Wright’s church gave a “big award” to.
Posted by: today | November 1, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am
today
Obama has more than 7 siblings (but i thought we were talking about his aunt, and thus his ENTIRE extended family?). His father had multiple wives. And as someone who has been to Africa for research, i can tell you that the average extended family in Africa is as a big as a little village. To expect Obama to take care of them is really naive.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
today should change his name to yesterday because that’s where his party is heading.
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am
already voted for Obama
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
jen says “No one knows all the facts. Leave the poor old woman alone. Perhaps she wants her privacy and does not want charity from her nephew”
Yes, I am sure everyone would like to live in a squalid 150 square foot apartment as does Obama’s surrogate mom, his grandmother. Just as I am sure Obama’s brother loves living hand to mouth in Kneya and his aunt does in Boston.
People attempt to portray this as some how showing Obama’s family to be other than what it is. Obama lives in a million dollar mansion and makes millions a year. He does not help his family, expecting, I guess the government to take up his responsibilities. That is being a punk in my neighborhood.
Posted by: today | November 1, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
today
I agree with your conclusion regarding his attitude towards Jews. Yes, i think Rev. Wright is an anti-semite. He thinks he is just anti-zionist, but his language was broad enough to trample of the entire Jewish state. So i agree. But Rev. Wright is not racist against whites. I was making a distinction. There was nothing he said against whites that was racist. Against Jews, yes, i agree with you on that one. Good point by the way.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
Alexis,
I do talk to people and I do investigate which is why I voted for Obama.
and there is one reason why I would never vote for McCain and that is Palin.
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Big time advertising agency and Obama have generated an image of Obama, a persona that is carefully constructed. Case in point was the writing of his personal memoirs before a substantive, national career. Crafting a self-image automatically means you leave out things like relatives who are illegal immigrants.
Posted by: rafraf | November 1, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Does Cindy McCain help out her father’s other child – her half sister who lives very very modestly. Cindy got the her father’s entire fortune and she cheated her own sibling. Some Family Values Republicans have.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
If she is here illegally then it is not his fault it is INS.
end of discussion
Posted by: Obama will be president | November 1, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
ubu1991,
What you described is what most Americans do to “help out” their families, friends and people they don’t even know. You apparently don’t know what providing “support” for someone is. That means paying for their housing, food, utilities and so much more. Providing “support” is far more than being generous. Your argument sounds more like the argument someone makes when they are defending themselves against child support payments.
Surely you don’t expect Obama, let alone all Americans, to provide “support” to our very large extended families. That is just bogus.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
“John McCain has served this country longer in a POW camp than Obama has in the US Senate”
A.S. Gov. of California
Posted by: Hero | November 1, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Obama wants to give cuts to people making above 250k then he said 200k then he said 150k now his Democrat groupie has said the new number is 120k,
————————
WRONG.
OBAMA said tax cuts for those making under $200k, no increases for those up to $250k.
OBAMA did not use $150 or $120k. Somehow the Pubs love to turn anything anyone says into Obma’s words.(And the $120k quote from Richardson , as has been done this whole elction, is being used out of context.
Also YOUR candidates want to give $5000 credits to “people who don’t pay taxes”. So what exactly is your polint again?
Your VP candidate handed out tax dollars to an enitre state. To people who did NOTHING to earn it. So are you a hypocrite or what?
Posted by: GOP HYPOCRISY | November 1, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
Why is this news??? Even more to the point, why is this political news!!!
Posted by: Monk | November 1, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
Kevin and Today,
Boy, you guys really made your point. I will not vote for Rev. Wright!
I’d rather vote for the witch doctor who healed Sarah Palin. But wait, do you think he was born in America?
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am
Hero said
“John McCain has served this country longer in a POW camp than Obama has in the US Senate”
A.S. Gov. of California
So???
That doesn’t make him qualified to be president.
Posted by: truth | November 1, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am
Common Sense
I don’t expect you to support yourself, much less your extended family.
Posted by: ubu1991 | November 1, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am
Monk said
Why is this news??? Even more to the point, why is this political news!!!
Because it’s about Obama but the Republicans are desperately trying to make it more than what it is.
and I do stress desperately.
Posted by: truth | November 1, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am
JOHN MC CAIN: THE RIGHT STUFF
BARACK OBAMA: THE WRIGHT STUFF…
Posted by: Hero | November 1, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
ZOGBY 10/31/08
OBAMA 49.1%
McCAIN 44.1%
You were saying McCain was ahead? It’s always nice to put the blinders on and read only the paragraphs you like isn’t it?
Posted by: Whatever | November 1, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Hero,
Did you know that McCain gave money to RASHID KHALIDI?
Posted by: truth | November 1, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
In 1993, McCain became chairman of the International Republican Institute. He still chairs that respected organization.
That same year, Khalidi helped found the Center for Palestine Research and Studies, self-described as “an independent academic research and policy analysis institution” created to meet “the need for active Palestinian scholarship on issues related to Palestine.” (Its archived Web site is HERE.)
Khalidi was on the board of trustees through 1999.
According to tax returns, the McCain-chaired IRI funded the organization Khalidi founded and served on to the tune of $448,873 in 1998 (click HERE to see the tax return)* as first reported by Seth Couter Walls at HuffPo.
The IRI continued to give money to the CPRS after Khalidi left the group as well.
Posted by: truth | November 1, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
Quote from book on political fear-mongering by Republicans: “So irrespective of what the polls look like, we have no choice but to show up en masse and unequivocally reject Republicans like Sarah Palin — hurling them onto the slagheap of history next to Orange Alerts, HUAC and the Willie Horton ad. Imagine what an undisputed electoral victory would say to Republican strategists like Bill Kristol who suggested to John McCain that the easiest path to victory was the politics of fear. Imagine the eardrum-bursting shockwaves a massive Obama victory would send through the heads of the McCain operatives who fed the “domestic terrorist” attacks into Sarah Palin’s empty dome.
There are a lot of things to ridicule about Sarah Palin’s incomprehensible speaking style, her pathological dishonesty and her backwards, simplistic views on the issues. But it’s her politics of fear and division that must be wholly rejected on Tuesday because it’s too terrible to imagine waking up one week from today in an America that rewards the awfulness and fear which she and her subterranean allies require in order to politically exist.”
Posted by: Mary | November 1, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
To Bud White:
Rashid Khalidi is no terrorist or a jew hater. Even the ADL say he is not an Anti-Semite. He has sympathy for the people of Palestine. That does not mean he is a terrorist or an Anti-Semite. Then according to you Bush is a mass murderer because he killed via his actions so many people in Iraq and our own soldiers due to the war he started with his LIES.
Mr. Khalidi is a respected Professor. PERIOD
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
truth says “Did you know that McCain gave money to RASHID KHALIDI?”
No McCains group gave money to a group with Khalid in it. McCain is not pal’ing around with Khalidi. They are not eating at each others house or sitting on boards together. They are definitely not shaking hands.
This lame democratic cover/talking point on Khalidi is a bit transparent. The real point is that Obama is a long time friend of yet another punk.
Posted by: today | November 1, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
So how mant prominent Republicans have now endorsed Obama?
So many, I’ve lost count.
How many prominent Dems have endorsed McCain?……That would be ZERO
It’s obvious there’s only one LEADER in this election.
Posted by: That's gotta hurt | November 1, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Paul New man
Please don’t put my name in the same sentence with Today. You probably misunderstood my point. I am an Obama supporter and i don’t give a fish about Rev. Wright.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
ann said Mccain is hated almost as much as Bush and he really is stupider.
No, Mccain is not dumber than Bush (Mccain is actually smart) but Palin might actually be.
Posted by: truth | November 1, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
This is from this morning’s Boston Globe….”Zeituni Onyango, 56, referred to as “Aunti Zeituni” in Obama’s memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a US immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late last night. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango’s case.
She’s 56 years old…….that’s not an OLD lady……………give me a break!
Posted by: jmm | November 1, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
jmm,
That peoves the Government was not doing its job. INCOMPETENT REPUBLICANS
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
What’s all this about Obama not taking care of a half-aunt. Does Obama even know this half-aunt. Heck, Cindy McCain has two step-sisters that she doesn’t even acknowledge. She considers herself an only child. Where’s the love for relatives in the McCain family. Wasn’t it McCain who cheated on and dumped his crippled wife for the young trophy wife who’s family is wealthy and could further his political ambitions. Whers’s the accountability?
Democrats need to very careful it’s these kind of stories that the Republicans play up to the voters and sometimes when people are uninformed it makes a differece.
And for all those former Hillary supporters who are voting the McCain/Palin ticket I hope you won’t be compalining when McCain gets us into a war with Iran and he institutes the military draft and you have to send your sons and daughters off to war. Remember McCain did sing “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran” to the tune of a Beachboys song. I’ll bet that plays well in the Middle East for those nutcase fringe terrorist groups recruiting purposes.
As for associations with “domestic terrorists”I want to know more about Todd & Sarah Palins’ membership in the secessionist and Anti-American Alaska Independence Party. If they are such good pattriots why would would they want separate from the United States. The American voters need to know about this.
Posted by: I've had it | November 1, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
It’s very easy for us to judge why Obama doesn’t take care of his extended family, however we don’t know the whole story. I think this is silly to focus on. There are soooo many other issues that we need to focus on when it comes to Obama.
I’m a republican and frankly, the idea of him being the next president…..
scares the hell out of me. I like America, I like what we stand for, I like the freedom we have. Sure we have areas that we need to fix, we are not perfect. However, anyone that passes himself off as the only one who can “heal our souls”, we should be afraid of, unless it’s God. He talks a good game, but sorry, I need more than that. For me, it’s about security. It’s about keeping this country strong. It’s about making our people stronger by having to do for themselves, getting ahead in life by actual work, not handouts. I believe in tough love, not freebies. I am middle class, I don’t expect anything from the government. I have what I have because I work hard for it. I teach my children the same thing. Don’t expect handouts, stand up for yourselves. Have some self respect and if you want it you earn it. We have become so politically correct in this country, that if anything doesn’t go the way you want, then there is some one to blame. It’s pathetic. Have a back bone, do your own research on exactly the words that are being said, not the way they are being said. It makes a huge difference.
No matter what happens on Tuesday, I will still be proud of my country, maybe just a little afraid.
Posted by: DC | November 1, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Feminist 50
This is Boston Mass…….last time I looked this state is SO Democratic it’s pathetic. WHO helped this woman get housing here? That is the question…….and a job to boot! Not a Republican issue at all…….this was under Democrats. period.
Posted by: jmm | November 1, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Truth,
“No, Mccain is not dumber than Bush (Mccain is actually smart) but Palin might actually be.”
It would be hard for anyone to be dumber than Dumbo himself. Still, Sarah’s giving it a real go.
McCain has more intelligence. Too bad he has so much anger and fear. I guess that came from his POW experience.
I pity him for that. Unfortunately, I think it disqualifies him from the presidency. He’s too quick to jump the gun.
We don’t need another war, let alone a nuclear holocaust.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
“The person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango’s case.”
Until there is proof, her immigration status is only a rumor.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
Skinny dog,
If you so concerned about the donation made by Obama’s half aunt maybe you should check into the $70,000.00 made by a foriegn individual to McCain.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Oh My! This is bad. Who paid for the housing and the donation?
Posted by: smith | November 1, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
smith wrote:
“Oh My! This is bad. Who paid for the housing and the donation?”
Must have been some left-wing, socialist.
Quick, pick up the phone and call Joe the Plumber!
He has a hot-line to McCain, so this important story can be weaved into Sarah’s next speach.
Oh my! A real SCOOP!
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
Gee, I wonder if she voted early
Posted by: smith | November 1, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
“Gee, I wonder if she voted early”
Boy, da ya think she mailed an absentee ballot from Kenya?
Hmmm. This looks like a federal offense.
Quick, call Joe the Plumber back… This one could work!
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am
it would be very interesting to know how much was donated to mccain by the (ROTHCHILDES)
Posted by: rodney | November 1, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am
If she is illegal she should be deported regardless of who she is related to. Poor woman, in this case it must really suck to be related to someone famous, otherwise she could have just kept living her life anonymously and illegally. Guess her 260 dollar donation won’t save her now. She can go back to Africa and then try and come back legally.
Posted by: samhiguchi | November 1, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Isn’t amazing how most major newspapers are not picking up on this story? Mike NC, the difference between McCains daughter and Obama’s aunt, is a judge denied her asylum, unlike McCain’s daughter, why? Why didn’t Obama offer to sponser her? Or maybe he did…we dont’ know because the news media refuses to do it’s job. It took a foreign newspaper to break this story, that’s sad.
Posted by: Linda Hepworth | November 1, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
Linda Hepworth,
Boy Linda, this is REALLY BIG NEWS. Maybe the newspapers haven’t seen it yet. Quick, get on the phone and let them know…
Then again, maybe they have a minimum level of journalistic integrity and actually CHOSE not to publish this garbage.
Naw
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
AS a Hispanic American, the relevance of this story to this election is that Obama may understand immigration issues better than McCain.
Posted by: usa first | November 1, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
From what it sounds, it seems Obama himself was unaware she had come to the United States- the last time he saw them was in Kenya, where he went to look for his father’s family. I certainly wouldn’t want to be the target of GOP robocalls because I donated to Obama . Previous elections, candidates didn’t disclose donors too.
What about Cindy McCain’s half-sister, who got cut out of her father’s will because her father met another woman who appealed more to him then his wife? I find it deplorable how Cindy does not even acknowledge her, even if she does not help her out financially. I do not want such a woman to be First Lady, I can just imagine how Kathleen Portalski must be feeling.
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Samhiguchi,
Good morning. Nice of you to join us.
Get a coffee and join the fun.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
They should send Aunti Zeituni back to Kenya ASAP, I’m just shocked she was able to milk the system for this long, I bet she can really use her donation just about now, It’s unfortunate Obama will probably disown her just like he as done with anyone who has brought him any back lash !!! Ask Kevin if he could sponsor her ??? she’s still young I’m sure she could still work !!! or is she going to live off the government ???
Can one of the Obama supporters sponsor Aunti ???
Posted by: Alexis | November 1, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Earlier this year, there was some unstability in Kenya, which brinked on a civil war. It’s possible she came to the United States for that reason.
I think we should refrain from commenting on her status since it’s not confirmed.
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
Has anyone else wondered where Michelle Obama is? Why is she hiding from the press and the american people? Could it be that she has been muzzled by her husband for fear of saying something that might doom his well laid plans? Or does he know more than half of the American electorate can’t stand the sight of her? I think it is very telling that she doesn’t accompany him on the campaign trail and show the American people what we’ll be getting in a first couple. Or could the reason be Americans know what she thinks of this country and it’s people and her husband doesn’t want us reminded of that fact, lest we might wake up and finally “get it”.
Posted by: momydoll | November 1, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
Alexis
I’m white, so i don’t get your accusation of racism. I support Obama because i think he is smarter than McCain. After 8 years of having a retard in office, the last thing we need is another retard. I will never vote for a man that graduated almost bottom of his class. Call me an elitist liberal if you like. I don’t care. It’s funny: In Europe they envy rich foks (a problem we don’t share here in this great country). But in America it’s clear that we envy intellect. It’s almost as if so many Americans hate the fact that some work hard in school to improve intellect and expand knowledge. Republicans want the moron they can have a beer with instead of the Harvard graduate with a sharp acumen (the one that graduated top of his Harvard law class). Give me the smart guy all the time. I will not go and have an idiot doctor that i’ll rather have a beer with operate on my child. I want to smart, harvard educated one that is competent and knows what they are doing. Mccain was a good soldeia nd patriot. But im sorry, he does not have the intellect to rule this country.
Posted by: Kevin | November 1, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Republicans would have you believe somehow it is wrong for Obama not to support his extended family, but at the same time see nothing wrong with Cindy McCain ignoring her half sister.
Was it is alright for McCain to dump his disfigured wife and abandon his children for a millionaire heiress, too?
What a double standard by those right-wing hypocrites.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am
momydoll,
No, Michelle’s back home with her two daughters, that’s what, and not lugging them all over the continent and disrupting their schooling and daily life like Sarah Palin.
Or she’s also out stumping for Obama. You can look up their schedule. She and Jill have held events on their own, unlike Cindy McCain who has to stand behind John all the time. I don’t know if that reflects Cindy’s demeanour, of if her husband treats her that way, but either way, I don’t like it.
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
Grey Matter, you mean instability, and what you mean is good cousin Odinga, who lost his election and had Christians slaughtered. So if you think dear Aunty would be in danger, HA, it was a family member at the head of the trouble. But that was a nice try
Posted by: samhiguchi | November 1, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
Momydoll says: “Has anyone else wondered where Michelle Obama is? Why is she hiding from the press and the american people? Could it be that she has been muzzled by her husband for fear of saying something that might doom his well laid plans? Or does he know more than half of the American electorate can’t stand the sight of her? I think it is very telling that she doesn’t accompany him on the campaign trail and show the American people what we’ll be getting in a first couple.”
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That’s pretty rich coming from a Sarah Palin supporter, the first VP candidate in modern history who refuses to hold a press conference. A woman whose own campaign considers her to be as dumb as a rock.
Posted by: ed | November 1, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
So Obama’s aunt who lives in a slum in the famous Southie neighborhood of Boston not only lives in the US illegally, but is on the public dole in a housing project.
And Senator Obama not only has done nothing to help his auntie become a legal citizen, but he took $260 from her for his campaign.
While Americans are homeless and losing jobs and homes, Obama turns his back, living in his million dollar home, sitting with his big fat million dollar bank account and letting others “spread” THEIR WEALTH re: taxes support his illegal alien aunt.
The hypocrisy is beyond description.
Posted by: romanesq | November 1, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Kevin there is nothing wrong with being a brainiac, as long as you have enough common sense to come in out of the rain or to tie your shoes. Unfortunately most “intellectuals” have no common sense.
Posted by: samhiguchi | November 1, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
The AP Headline is all wrong and ABC reporters are nor Reporters but just stupid stenographers. The Headline should have rightly said : INCOMPETENT BUSH ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT ENFORCE IT’S OWN IMMIGRATION LAWS.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
The McCains daughter was a baby adopted LEGALLY by the family. She IS an American citizen. She is not a family member living in the US illegally, giving illegal campaign dollars in a US election nor living off the taxpayer.
More rabid left wing hypocrisy. Not to mention very lame logic.
Posted by: romanesq | November 1, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
romanesq,
I fing there nothing to fault about Bridget McCain.
But I DO wonder about Cindy McCain’s half-sister who got cut out of her father’s will who is kind of struggling financially. I DO wonder that Cindy hasn’t at the VERY LEAST acknowledged her existence, considering she grew up with her (I was a single child e.g), and at every interview she never even acknowledges her sister, even if she doesn’t help her out financially.
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
ed, I think my estimation, concerning Mrs. O, is closer to the real deal and I’m sure it is the thinking of many more Americans than you would like to admit to. It’s just too obvious that she’s missng from the stage. As for Sarah Palin being dumb, are you or any of her critics a Govenor? You don’t get “there” being dumb.
Posted by: momydoll | November 1, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
This is ridiculous!!! Sounds like she is a poor lady that is having problems!! Why would John McCain Campaign attack this poor lady just to try to win President. This is one of the many despicable acts he has done.
Everyone – you could be next. I Don’t care if you are Republican or Democrat. John McCain will attack anyone!!
I hope her case will be reviewed. She just wants to stay in America. Is that so wrong???
So what!!
Posted by: Sharonklim | November 1, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
When Cindy brought Bridget to the U.S. she was not a citizen. They had to apply for her and make her a citizen by adopting her. John McCain did not even know that Cindy was bringing home Bridget. An ordinary citizen cannot bring a child into the country without papers. Cindy used her influence and clout to do that. Most people are left in a legal limbo awaiting their appeals. If anything it is the fault of the Immigration dept.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
“Republicans are shameless and pathetic. They are the lowest of the low, and they give me that creepy feeling that somehow they are on the lower rung of the evolution chain (not much higher than ordinary animals).”
Just another attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of the hard working American, giving excuses for an illegal alien, and shifting blame away from the socialist wealth spreader. I sincerely hope that if Obama becomes president, he targets all the idiots who blindly followed him first, redistribute their wealth, give their homes to the illegal immigrants. Obviously they have no jobs so they’ll have lots of time to think about their mistake on a park bench just in time for winter.
Posted by: Emm | November 1, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
I think Drudge still rules Tappers world
Posted by: Cromagnon | November 1, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
momydoll,
Well, yes, maybe she is qualified to be a Governor, but not the Vice-President- or in an emergency- President of the United States.
She has limited knowledge on anything outside oil and ANWR and Alaskan stuff. For goodness’ sake, she thinks we can just label who is the “Good guy” and “bad guy” in the Arab-Israeli conflict. She thinks we should just stand and watch if Israel decides to invade Iran, to h e l l with regional stability and the innocent civilians who can’t control what their president says.
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
you kool-aid drinkers are funny always looking for a way to spin anything Obama. The fact is that the woman is here illegally, secondly she is a foreign national who was allowed to make several donations be it small, to his campaign, which proves that his system has no verification methods in place, you people are insane. What does this have to do with Bush or McCain? Will you people ever question this man if he becomes the President? will you ever challenge his administration if he does something that is not right? at what point will you ask tough questions? Will the press be able to ask though questions without you spewing venom? I guess even when they come and drag your assess out of your homes in the middle of the night you will still be defending him. You people are pathetic you deserve exactly what you get if you put him in office.
Posted by: Kim | November 1, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
She’ll be safe with Bush and Juan McCain,they are both for pardons for illeagl’s. There is a rumor that Bush will pardon all 20 million illeagl’s on his way out.
Ex Republican
Posted by: RGeier | November 1, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Some of you McCain supporters,
Please stop screaming socialism or Marxism. We are not living in the Cold War era, being more left-leaning doesn’t equal Communism. Go read the definition first them come back and make your comment.
Giving people tax credits is NOT socialism. It is NOT wealth redistribution. The upper income still keep the bulk of their wealth, their property, shares and what not. Heck, even then, the whole principle of our tax system is actually rather socialist- everyone pays taxes, the government uses it to build roads, schools, fund things like Medicare, the Army to protect our country, the fire brigade, the police force, the person who answers the phone when you dial 911, e.g.
Would you rather not have any of these “socialist” policies?
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Kim,
Immigration is a federal issue. If she was here illegally why did the Bush Adminstartion not do its job and deport her. Also, how come you have no outrage about the $70,000 contribution to the McCain campaign by a foriegner.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Feminist 50 and Smith…..
My question isn’t about the Republicans in DC……you keep blaming them for this….This is a Mass. housing complex…..under Mass. Democrats …..I wonder who Obama called and asked for help for dear Aunty….I won’t call her OLD ……she’s only 56…..hardly old…and also, gained employment here as well. My problem with this is….there probably are legal residents of Mass who could have used that apartment after working for years and paying their TAXES……….why and how did this lady get that housing? Who helped her…..how did she get a job and housing .? that is the question……as far as her being deported by the Republicans…..well, the Democrats in MA seem to have taken care of her.
Posted by: jmm | November 1, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Feminist 50- maybe because I did not hear about this, please provide the backup to this information. I go off of facts.
Posted by: Kim | November 1, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Obama calls taxpayers selfish for not wanting to spread the wealth.
Yet he won’t lift a finger to help his own family.
He and Biden barely give to charity but want to mandate and demand that we give.
We should decide how to give our money.
Posted by: sam | November 1, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
Obama took an illegal donation from his illegal AUNT!!!
Posted by: Mike NC | November 1, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
sam,
It is likely he did not even know she was in the United States- the last time he saw them was in Kenya.
And even then, how do you know he is not helping her now as we speak? He’s the type not to publicize it and he’s a private person when it comes to his family- his daughters, especially. Not like McCain who has to make a big show of going to DC to “save” the bailout but actually did nothing.
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Grey Matter, You know, when I vote for Pesident, that’s what i do, vote for the President and relagate the V.P. position to the status of “use as needed”. The V.P. position is really just a figured head position anyway. If we all made our Presidential choice based on who the President “may be”, then we have lost all sight of the choices we have before us to elect an acting current President. We can’t vote on the notion that, that candidates V.P. “could” be President. That’s making a choice based on a hypothetical.
Posted by: momydoll | November 1, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
jmm,
State govt cannot deport illegal immigrants. Only the Federal govt can. How come you don’t blame your beloved Bush’s government for not enforcing the laws.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
A US senator does not intervene on his aunt’s behalf? Seems to me that is the story. He did not choose to use his power to help this woman. Perhaps that is because he doesn’t even know of her plight. Or that he trusts the immigration system. Certainly any Senator could make this happen with no blowback.
Posted by: stephen | November 1, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
GreyMatter, I was intrigued by your criticism of Sarah Palin. You say she is unprepared to be VP (I think she can follow in the footsteps of Charles Curtis, Alben Barkley, Spiro Agnew, and Dan Quayle just fine, thanks) and cite specifically what you characterize as her stand on Israel and Iran. Of course, you completely mangle her position. You write: “She thinks we should just stand and watch if Israel decides to invade Iran, to h e l l with regional stability and the innocent civilians who can’t control what their president says.” Um, what on earth are you talking about? Israel invade Iran? I presume you actually refer to the possibility that, to prevent Iran from joining the nuclear club, Israel might bomb their nuclear facilities and take out that capability. Palin’s position on that, which was not to preemptively take a position on Israel’s right to act this way in perceived self-defense, is basically the same position the other three candidates have taken, with some variations. None of them has suggested that they would not allow Israel to do so. And there is the legitimate debate about whether the US has any right, let alone any means, of preventing another sovereign nation from taking such an action if they determined it was in their self-defense.
What did you expect Sarah Palin to say when asked about a hypothetical about an Israel air strike against Iran? “We will not allow them to do so”? “It is not up to Israel to make such a decision, but up to the United States”? “Well,let them do it, and bring on the Apocalypse so we can prepare for the End of Times”? She did what most politicians do– she spoke in vague terms that are subject to interpretation, lest she upset either our ally Israel or its neighbors.
Regional stability? Iran going nuclear will not contribute anything to regional stability, and many Arab nations would probably be secretly relieved if Israel took the problem of a nuclear Iran off their hands. It is not only Israel who would be threatened by a nuclear Iran.
You speak of the innocent civilians who can’t control what their president says. Sarah Palin is not running for president, remember? She’s the VP candidate and John McCain will serve out his term in fine fettle, God willing. And what of the remarks of an actual candidate for President, if Sarah’s words seem unconsidered to you– like Obama’s threat to invade Pakistan in pursuit of bin Laden? Pakistan is not only an ally, but a nuclear power. Like his statement that Georgia should show restraint in the face of an invasion by Russia? I can’t control his statements, either. WOuld that I could.
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
momydol,
The very fact that he chose Sara palin as a VP shows what a reckless, smitten, old fool he is. Who offers anyone the VP job after 1 interview. He is a doddering old man and upon seeing a marginally attractive middle aged lady offered her the job. We all lnow which head he was thinking with.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Hmmmm…and how long has Obama known about it? And why hasn’t he helped his Aunt?
Folks, Obama is all about Obama.
And will Obama refund her illegal donation? (Non-citizens cannot donate to U.S. elections.)
Posted by: Thelma | November 1, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Thelma,
You only prove that right wingers are indeed monumentally deranged. Do you think Obama manually sifts through the millions of dollars he has received in small amounts. Also, why are you not outraged at the huge illegal donation that McCain received from a foriegn source.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Is the news seriously trying to make the HALF-sister of a father he met only ONCE to be aliability? That’s kind of a stretch.
Posted by: Sheila | November 1, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Feminist 50
Blame Bush for the immigration mess all you want. Congress , mostly Democrats haven’t done much about that problem in these past 8 years, Sure Blame Bush.
I’m asking how a Mass democratic govt lead by a Democratic Governor who happens to be ‘ very good friends with Sen. Obama and will be a cabinet post receipiant….’ how would they allow this lady to get not only housing but a job? That’s all I asked….
Posted by: jmm | November 1, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
moderate,
Just to clarify, the “innocent civilians” I was talking about were the Iranians, seeing how Iran isn’t exactly a democracy. Some Iranians do have ill-feelings towards America, but most of them will balk at starting a war with Israel or attempting to fire nuclear missiles at the US, despite what their president says.
It was in the Charlie Gibson interview, and again during the Katie Couric interview. Gibson asked her about her stand on the Arab-Israeli conflict. Palin said that we should not second-guess Israel at all. Gibson (or was it Couric?) pressed her; even if Israel were to invade Iran? She said, yes, we cannot allow a second Holocaust.
The reality is, we are supporting Israel militarily. We have given them arms. An unfortunately, they have carried out some questionable airstrikes that have killed not militants but only innocent civilians in Palestine. We have to support Israel, we have to denounce Ahmadinejad’s vitriol, but we cannot close our eyes to the suffering of these Palestinians caught in the crossfire. Our perceived apathy towards these people is the driving rationale behind people like Ahmadinejad’s statements.
If Israel were to carry out an air strike on Iran that kills militants, fine, but if they end up killing civilians we cannot just say nothing, like what Palin said. If Israel were to start invading Iran, I think we shouldn’t egg them on. We should try to MEDIATE between the two sides, not sit and watch. The invasion will be bad for BOTH sides.
Imagine the chaos in Iran. Like in Iraq, you had all kinds of crazy stuff happening, people looting Saddam’s palace, tearing down his statues and stuff. If Israel were to invade Iran, isn’t it a higher chance that terrorists could seize control of the nuclear weapons there?
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Thelma hit it on the head.
Posted by: jmm | November 1, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Obama clearly forgot that the American Patriot still lives here in Boston. To think that he could hide an ILLEGAL ALIEN relative in this great city and not be exposed?? Remember, “DON’T TREAD ON ME!”
Posted by: Minute Man | November 1, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Uh oh. Here is the big pre-election day scandal. Head for the hills. McCain’s gonna pull off the upset victory.
Posted by: w_roos | November 1, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Who gives a crap>>>>>> she is not the only one in this country,it is the fault of BUSH for not following through with the plan to check on green cards,.MILLIONS and NO one checks—No one does .Not Obama fault>>>
Posted by: NH voter | November 1, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Says a lot about Obama’s character by how he treats his family.
But with our money Obama will take care of illegals by giving them welfare, driver’s licenses, and free health care.
It’s the patriotic and selfless thing to do.
Posted by: sam | November 1, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
They found an alrming number of untraceable donations to the Obama campaign, they are supposed to investigate it, I hope the donations are not from Anti American sources…
Posted by: Alexis | November 1, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Concerned in Ohio
Maybe you can help to answer my original question I asked this morning, Why isn’t Mrs.O on the campaign stage with her husband?
Posted by: momydoll | November 1, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Ooooo….Such a relevant story.
Posted by: Steve | November 1, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
This shows you there is hope yet for people like Oyango making it here, and I am glad for them and our nation.
This is one of the few places one couldn’t help but acknowledge a humanitarian edge to the Bush Administration.
But why is the story of Oyango so singular?
Posted by: Charity begins at home | November 1, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Obama has not had close ties to his Kenyan family & to expose thsi woman is the height of irresponsiiblity. You dont know this woman’s story & this may very well endanger her.
This is not relevant to this election …shame on the media !!! Show some humanity!!
Posted by: Dee | November 1, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Clearly the “crazies” have struck Femminist 50. Its 60 degrees and she has the air conditioning on.
Calm down and try to be rational
Posted by: smith | November 1, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Obama will keep his Aunt’s illegal donation because he loves other people’s money.
He’s asking for just $5.00 more from his supporters to help him buy the presidency.
Posted by: bailey | November 1, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Who cares. Obama is not responsible for his father side, who did not raise him when he was growing up. To me, he has his mother’s look, her gentle heart, and his white grandparents’ values. And that is important.
Posted by: Berkeleyan | November 1, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Concerned in Ohio,
I am one of millions of Americans who donated to the Obama campaign.
You’re insinuating that his campaign finance is rampant with fraud. In doing so, you’re doubting our authenticity and refusing to admit that we are legitimate contributors.
Shame on you. Your stance is un American.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Alexis,
“They found an alrming number of untraceable donations to the Obama campaign, they are supposed to investigate it, I hope the donations are not from Anti American sources…”
Oh, goodness me!
Give us a break!
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
momydoll,
Michelle Obama and Jill Biden are out stumping for their husbands, that’s why. Or she is back home with her daughters.
It’s rather sad Cindy McCain doesn’t seem to be her own person- she’s often TRAILING behind McCain (not walking BESIDE him). After the second debate, Michelle and Barack split up to talk to the audience, but Cindy was just following McCain around. I think we should have a First Lady who is assertive in her own right, and known as the First Lady, not thought of as “the President’s wife”. I don’t know if it’s Cindy’s personality or the kind of relationship McCain has with his wife and the way he treats her, but I don’t really find that to be healthy.
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
I already voted for Obama, so it’s not going to change anything.
Posted by: Adam(the Militant Obamacan of the SMS) | November 1, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
moderate,
” (I think she can follow in the footsteps of Charles Curtis, Alben Barkley, Spiro Agnew, and Dan Quayle just fine, thanks)”
That’s precisely the problem. She could really mix it up with those guys. She’d be in good company.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
jmm,
In 2004 when she was denied asylum and living in Masachusssets Mitt Romney was the Governor.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Why is this newsworthy? Don’t get sucked into this phony “October surprise.” If there’s any story here, it is the continuing efforts by the McCain campaign and its allies to turn the focus away from the real issues at stake in this election.
Posted by: Charles Sherman | November 1, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
I hope this is the reason that McCain and Palin are telling reporters they guarantee they are going to win the election and not because the Republicons have in place ways to steal the election like they did in 2000 and 2004.
Posted by: Truth Matters | November 1, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Grey Matter
I won’t argue all your points but the one I will make comment on is your statement that Mr. Obama will, “Know not to shred to Constitution”. He is a Constitutional lawyer and very much disagrees with it’s contents, as he has said many times. At this point in this election game he has a big problem sitting right in front of the SCOTUS. Hopefully that problem won’t be the catalyst for the beginnings of his shredding.
Posted by: momydoll | November 1, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Following the candidate’s visit to his gravely ill grandmother in Hawaii, there is an 11th-hour break in the Obama birth certificate story….
AP reports:
[Hawaii] State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.
She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.
Does this settle the matter?
No way, says blogger Michael Patrick Leahy.
Note the careful language from the State Department of Health officials in this press release:
“[we] have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
They did not say we have the long form copy of his birth certificate signed by his attending physician at Kapiolani Hospital on August 4, 1961.
It’s an original birth certificate “in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
One of those state policies and procedures was the acceptance of “after the fact” birth certificates under the 1911 Hawaii Birth Certificate program. This program was for residents of Hawaii over the age of one who did not register their birth with the state originally. The state accepted some “alternate form of documentation.” This “alternate form of documentation”, once accepted under this program that was in existence until 1972, becomes “an original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
How convenient that this press conference is held on the eve of the Presidential election just a couple weeks after Barack Obama went to visit his sick grandmother.
Here’s the way Barack Obama can be straight forward and honest with the American people:
Authorize the release of this document that Dr. Chiyome and Dr. Onaka both say they’ve seen and verified.
If it’s an August 4, 1961 long form birth certificate signed by an attending physician at a Honolulu hospital, then it’s case closed. You’ve met the burden of proof.
But if it’s some alternate document introduced later…depending on the contents of that document, we may still conclude you’ve not met the burden of proof.
But show us the document State of Hawaii and Barack Obama ! Let it see the light of day.
And by the way, while we’re at it, here’s a question for Dr. Chiyome and Dr. Onaka:
Can you please explain to me why you are violating state law by showing us the document, but not violating state law by telling us you’ve seen the document ? Did you receive authorization from Barack Obama to (1) look at the document and (2) tell us you’ve looked at the document ?
Another question on the original birth certificate Dr. Chiyome and Dr. Onaka verified:
Is it:
(1) A Certificate of Hawaiian Birth created under the 1911 “after the fact program ?
or
( 2) or is it a standard birth certificate created from the original document provided contemporaneously by the birth hospital ?
And yet another question on this carefully parsed statement:
“[we] have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
What exactly does “original birth certificate on record” mean ?
Does it mean they physically viewed the hard copy of the original birth certificate ? Or does it mean they’ve reviewed the information technology procedures by which the abstracted data was placed into the State of Hawaii birth certificate data base?
And… why a released statement and not a press conference ?
Posted by: Hero | November 1, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Hey all of you college kids!
I know you love Obama because he is so cool.
But how will you like it when you graduate and Obama takes half of your dream away and gives it to someone that
didn’t work as hard as you?
Why dream big?
Posted by: sam | November 1, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
momydoll,
When did he “disagree with it’s contents”?
Yes I know he’s for more gun regulations and stuff, but that’s generally the consensus on the left. I’ve read his stands and he says he’s not going to take away guns but to just have more regulations, especially in the city when people don’t exactly have the excuse of hunting to need to have guns (other then protection), considering the horrific murders of Jennifer Hudson’s family, I think that idea has some merit. Even if he wanted to revoke the Second Amendment, it will be almost impossible for him to. This will have to go through the Congress, Senate, and Supreme Court.
Personally, I really think McCain degrades women. Other then the whole “using” Sarah Palin thing, he’s also been voting against the Equal Pay Act.
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 1, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Sharonklim, Take a deep breath. You rush to assume that the McCain campaign has something to do with the revelations about Obama’s half-aunt. No, they did not. A British newspaper tracked her down earlier this week. Then an AP reporter wrote the story about her contributions and her illegal status.
You wrote: “This is ridiculous!!! Sounds like she is a poor lady that is having problems!! Why would John McCain Campaign attack this poor lady just to try to win President. This is one of the many despicable acts he has done.” Yes, it is ridiculous– your unwarranted attack on John McCain, that is. McCain knows he would appear supremely unsympathetic to attack Auntie and he hsa not done so, nor will he. But you are not the only one on these boards acting as if somehow this is all a nefarious McCain plan.
Then, you insist “Everyone – you could be next. I Don’t care if you are Republican or Democrat. John McCain will attack anyone!!” Um, it’s the Obama folks who have gone after the innocent, from my perspective. Let’s savage Joe the Plumber and investigate his private life, because answering his question got Obama in trouble. Remember that? A Florida reporter asks Biden questions he didn’t like (questions no tougher than the ones she threw at McCain the next day) and as a result, her station loses their access to the Obama campaign and she and her husband are smeared. Remember? When Obama has to make room on his press plane for Johnny-come-lately reporters at the end of the campaign, who does he remove to make that room? Oh, completely coincidentally, three reporters from news outlets that endorsed his opponent.
It is clearly not John McCain who should be making innocent citizens nervous about coming under attack for unpopular opinions.
Then you said “I hope her case will be reviewed. She just wants to stay in America. Is that so wrong???” No, there is nothing wrong with wanting to stay in America. We are the greatest country on earth. But she was denied asylum four years ago and did not leave as she was told. I hope her nephew, a trained lawyer, can help her get things straightened out. And I hope he returns her illegal campaign donations as well.
“So what!!” So what? Here’s why I find this story interesting– #1, in his memoir, Obama specifically writes that in Africa, his aunt cannot depend on a government safety net but must depend on family, a family who are no better off financial than she is. Then he write that he realized that now he was family as well, and that brought responsibilities to his family. on the campaign trail, he reminds us that “I am my brother’s keeper.” But he did not provide charity to his own aunt. It is not the government that needs to be our brother’s keeper, but ourselves. Yes, we need the social safety net for those who can not count on family or friends for financial support, but government assistance should be last resort, not first resort.
#2_ Her campaign donation highlights yet again the fact that the Obama campaign is collecting money that is not legal under campaign finance laws. Foreign nationals cannot contribute.
#3- Her donation is, to me, unspeakably touching and unspeakably sad. Just as I am infuriated by the fact that poor people in my state make up a disproportionate number of lottery players– those who can least afford to gamble are those most likely to gamble– I am infuriated that this poor sweet woman sent over 250 dollars she could ill afford to spare to the Obama campaign. If he had taken public financing, as he promised to do, she woudl not have been able to do so. The thought that his Greek columns and infomercial and egotistically decorated campaign plane were paid for in any small way by his impoverished aunt is heartbreaking to me.
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
If you work for small business and vote for Obama I hope you will be the first one to get laid off.
Small business will be forced to scale back and you should pay the price.
If not you are selfish.
Posted by: riley | November 1, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Posted by: Hero | Nov 1, 2008 10:18:20 AM
Maybe we should check the birth certificates of everyobody who keeps asking this question over and over again. Nobody cares! This issue was answered months ago.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
It’s kinda funny that they are trying to bring this up now. It’s three day’s before the biggest election of our lives and the press choice to bring this stupid story out now. I could see if Barack Obama was living in the United States illegally,but they choice to put this out. I think John McCain and his friends have something to do with this.
Obama/Biden”08″
Posted by: Big Chris | November 1, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Don’t be unpatriotic and selfish.
Help pay for illegal’s health care.
Posted by: sally | November 1, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
moderate said -
———-/Oh, that’s priceless. Your logic escapes me. “Education” can come in many forms– formal education, life experience, vocational training, etc. The educated person never stops learning. But what has to do with whether one is Republican or Democrat? So you’ve decided we Republicans want to return to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle? I thought we were the party of the fat-cat moguls from Wall Street who burned our excess money to light our illegal Cuban cigars?——/
So moderate recognizes the two extremes of the republican party, the rich and the poor. This election is about the middle. We don’t want to be further pushed into poordom by supporting welfare/socialism/tax breaks for the rich.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Hero,
Get off of this birth certificate conspiracy theory.
The GOP has hundreds – maybe thousands – of investigators digging through the past to find _anything_ they could burn Obama with.
If Obama wasn’t born in the USA, there is NO WAY he would have made it this far against the Republican smear machine.
This story is so silly it begs the question of whether you even have a brain.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
This story shows utter desperation from the other side. Do you really think that “breaking” the story of a half-sister of a father he only met once, living as an illegal in the US, is gonna make people vote for McCain? That her being in that situation is somehow Obama’s fault or at the very least reflective on him? Get real.
I am in the very same boat. I have an aunt, the half-sister of my father who walked out when I was a child and died without me knowing him, who is currently an illegal in NY. I’ve met the woman a couple times in my life, but I don’t know her nor is she reflective of who I am as a person or my values. This story coming out now is utterly pathetic. How low have we sunk in this race?
Posted by: Jan | November 1, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
There is way to much information we don’t know about Obama. It’s crazy!
The press was timid and also in the tank with him for them to explore or review his records in the Illinois Senate, his voting records and paper trail. Obama excuse is hat he never kept records!! Nice excuse; and he got away with it. The press was on a hurry to explore Palin’s records and even Joe the plumber but they never tried to follow Obama’s associations in Chicago, his pals here and overseas, his family, relatives past, etc. We only know about Obama for what he wrote in his books and the press and hollywood are sshowcasing the memoirs as his real biography.
we shouldn’t be surprise if in the near future we start discovering -when the honeymoon with the press is over- all kind of things about Obama.
Obama is a risky proposition; but we in America never learn the lessons. We elected a dumb person like Bush just because he was “the nice guy” compassionate fella and he ruined the country and now we are electing a real left candidate bring the failed Euro socialism model in the US.
Sad day now and tough days for all in the future, I hope we finally learn the lesson that extreme left or right are wrong!
Pelosi, Reed, Frank, Dodd, Axelrod, Patrick, Dashle and Obama are wrong!
Posted by: Peter-Chicago | November 1, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
With Obama’s $500.00 bribe we can make our mortgage payment, pay for food, gas.
Obama will save us. The government and Obama will take care of us so that we won’t have to become self-reliant!
Isn’t he wonderful?
Posted by: meggie | November 1, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
If Obama wasn’t born in the USA, there is NO WAY he would have made it this far against the Republican smear machine.
This story is so silly it begs the question of whether you even have a brain.
Posted by: Paul New man | Nov 1, 2008 10:27:19 AM
They will keep on about it. They fail to realize that he has gone through security clearances just like anybody who works for the Federal Gov’t. at certain levels. They do background checks even at the lowest levels.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
I want a story by Jake Tapper connecting John McCain for Cindy McCain’s criminal behaviour in stealing drugs. he is after all married to her. Obama barely knows his haf-aunt.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Concerned in Ohio,
As an American living overseas, I would have a hard time entering a ZIP code which corresponds to anything in an American ZIP code database.
Your approach would deny me of the opportunity to donate.
Anyone (say Osama Bin Laden), who wanted to donate to a candidate could easily come up with stolen credit card info and circumvent any controls which any website could put in.
How do we know Bin Laden hasn’t contributed to McCain’s campaign?
It would be in his interests to see McCain win: he wants to drain America’s resources in futile wars we can’t possibly win. So McCain’s his man!
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Well, if you live in Ohio and you dare question Senator Government you get all your state records rummaged through by Senator Government’s surrogates.
Just ask Joe.
Posted by: Concerned in Ohio | Nov 1, 2008 10:29:17 AM
Where did it ever come out that Obama and his campaign were involved? Please quit spreading lies. I guess that is what you do when you have nothing.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Concerned in Ohio
McCain will lose on Tuesday…
where will you go and what will you do?
Posted by: T | November 1, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Paul New Man,
“concerned in ohio” is exactly right. The Obama campaign did deliberately disable the security features on their website, which allows campaign finance fraud to run rampant. Why would they do that?
Neither Concerned nor I have seen the code. I get my information about this fraud from the Washington Post and the New York Times. Hardly sources anxious to cast aspersions on Sen. Obama, yet they have both done stories about how the security controls were deliberately disabled.
Oh, and on a related note, someone was suggesting that Obama doesn’t release the names of the small donors because it would be an onerous task to produce such a list. Funny, Slate (an online source seriously pro-Obama; a survey of Slate workers showed only 1 of 54 was a McCain supporter, and the rest plan to vote Obama) demonstrated that they could produce such a list in a matter of hours.
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Grey matter
You actually answered the question with your answer on his statements about gun control. I think if he had his way, and he will have if elected, insofar as we will have a super majority in power, to amend or re-write the 2nd Ammendment. The Liberals controlling our government upon his election will be very happy to pass all his changes to government, with by the way, no challenges from across the isle. A little too much power in the hands of one side to keep me comfortable. If for no other reason, that alone would prompt me and many more to vote along lines to ensure that doesn’t happen
Posted by: momydoll | November 1, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Why is this a story?
The woman is not a close relative and Obama probably keeps her at a distance. Many of us have relatives whom we keep at a distance, for whatever reason.
That’s just the way life is. The woman’s status is of no importance to the election issue.
Posted by: Majus | November 1, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Concerned in Ohio
McCain will lose on Tuesday…
where will you go and what will you do?
Posted by: T | Nov 1, 2008 10:34:14 AM
Hopefully these GOP nuts, McCain and Palin go to alaska and they live happily ever after. The can ALL join the AIP and leave the rest of us alone.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Moderate,
“Oh, and on a related note, someone was suggesting that Obama doesn’t release the names of the small donors because it would be an onerous task to produce such a list. Funny, Slate (an online source seriously pro-Obama; a survey of Slate workers showed only 1 of 54 was a McCain supporter, and the rest plan to vote Obama) demonstrated that they could produce such a list in a matter of hours. ”
Yes, they could print a list with 3 million names and addresses on it and submit it for public scrutiny…
… then get sued for divulging confidential personal information. I, for one, would not want my name published, for fear of being spammed for the rest of my life!
Let’s let the federal election commission handle any investigation of suspected fraud. At this point in time, I believe they work for Bush, no?
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
OBAMA: Marxist..enough said
Posted by: review this, left wing censors | November 1, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
This is the WORST non-story the media has EVER covered.
how the hell is this relevant?
this is ridiculous and offensive to me personally.
leave this woman alone.
where are the reports of palin’s AIP stories and Cindy’s sisters?
NONE.
Posted by: johnosahon | November 1, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
This story is being reported by ABC and CBS, very surpriseing there is no mention of this on FOX. Do they know something regarding the election we don’t that they would start trying to be FAIR now?
Just another in a long line of NON LAW ABIDING associations in Obama’s past.
ABC, if you had been Properly VETTING Obama all along, this would be no surprise now.
Posted by: HH | November 1, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Republicans – Nut jobs, war mongers and lovers of treasonous people like Sara Palin with her ties to the AIP.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Joe? You mean Joe the “Lyin I don’t pay my taxes” the Plumber who actually DOESN’T pay his taxes? I spilled my coffee cracking up when McCain told the crowd they were all Joe the Plumber. What an insult.
What’s comical is this make believe nonsense that the Obama campaign did anything. As if the media wouldn’t pounce on a “plumber” asking about taxes on $250K income.
Help me out here. If you look at what Joe said, was their ANYTHING true about his question?
1) Is he a plumber? (Not really)
2) Does he earn $250K per year? ($40K)
3) Is he buying a business? (No plan)
Is that how it works with Republicans? What a joke. It’ll be over in a few days and the rest of them better try to hold on to their seats.
Posted by: Dems | November 1, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
momydoll,
Get a copy of the Constitution and read it. If I remember right, you’ll find the relevent information in Article 5.
The process of repealing an amendment is very complex and a simple majority in Congress is far from sufficient.
Besides, no elected politician’s going to try to repeal any amendments from the Bill of Rights and hope to survive in US politics.
Don’t worry about your guns.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Democrats Scrambling as McCain overtakes Obama in Zogby poll, 1 billion dollars spent, massive campaigns by the left wing media..Will John McCain upset the wingnuts? Johm Murtha pleading for more money as his campaign is fizzling..Gov Rendell pleading for people to get out and vote, in his words.. THIS RACE IS TIGHT
Posted by: review this, left wing censors | November 1, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Now I understand why Obama thinks Illegals should be eligible for Welfare, Soc Sec and SSI benefits,( along with drivers licenses). He would rather the government (aka, taxpayers) support his family than dig into his millions to do it.
Posted by: S Adams | November 1, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
If Obama is responsible for his half-aunt’s civil violation why is John McCain not responsible for Cindy McCain’s criminal behaviour.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Obama appears to have mulitiple relatives that live in slums. So much for his words on “taking care of my brothers” LOL Obama is a liar and a fraud who is not qualified to be a U.S. Senator let alone U.S. President.
BREAKING NEWS! McCain is now LEADING in the polls!
PUMAS will roar into the voting booths on Tuesday and let it be known to the nation, we say NOBAMA!
It’s McCain 08 and our Hillary 2012!
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
UNITY? HELL NO.
18 MILLION STRONG AND GROWING!
Country first, party second!
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex” Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: L | November 1, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
HH,
The associations you are talking about. Ayers is more closely aligned with the Anenberg’s who are friends of Mccain. Is McCain then palling around with people who are palling around with terrorists. MCcain is a pal of G. Gordon Liddy a convicted felon. He has as his running mate a person who was tried to the Alaska Indepenance party. Not to mention his involvement in the Keating 5 scandal and his wife’s criminal activity of stealing drugs. His advisor was a lobbyist for Saddam Hussein. So we should infer that McCain loves terrorist lovers, dicators, seccionists and criminals. MY WHAT GREAT COMPANY MCAIN KEEPS.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
as an person living in the UK, I have always looked up to america, and always wanted to visit. I have been reading your comments here, and I must say, I cannot understand why you americans treat and speak to each other the way you do. The whole world is watching, and listening.
And the bickering is not appealing.
Why do you think you should be the “SuperPower” in this world?
you are near the bottom in infant mortality
your holding in educating your young people is slipping
and your desire to war with people is getting old
a super power should set the GOOD example for the rest of the world
we British have always stood with the us. as you have with us.
We want to continue to see you as a Super Power-but you must realise that honor has to be earned and maintained.
you are not super-if you are the only ones calling yourselves so.
Posted by: one of america allies | November 1, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Alexis,
“”They have opened the floodgates to all this money coming in,” said Sean Cairncross, chief counsel to the Republican National Committee. “I think they’ve made the determination that whatever money they have to refund on the back end doesn’t outweigh the benefit of taking all this money upfront.”
Taken from the Washington Post article.
Let’s see. This is a quote from the chief counsel to the Republican National Committee.
Wow, that’s a very objective source, don’t you think?
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
It came out that the agency head who approved of “researching” Joe’s records for potential dirt in the areas of child support, welfare, etc. was a Democratic elected official who had contributed the maximum 2300 to the Obama campaign.
Then when the information became part of the news reporting on Joe, both Obama and Biden made cracks about the man during their speeches. Biden talked about his concern for the “real Joe the Plumber, the one with a license,” for example. Run afoul of the Obamaniacs and suffer the consequences.
Posted by: moderate | Nov 1, 2008 10:45:39 AM
See that is how ridiculous people like you and Concerned are. Just because she gave money to Obama’s campaign does NOT mean that she did it with his knowledge. She is in NO way connected to his campaign except through donating her PERSONAL money. The other people acted on their own.
Joe the Plumber lied from day one.He doesn’t have a license. He is buying a business when he makes $40,000 a year?
If you think this guy is for real, you need your head examined. I don’t know if they ever found out for sure he is a relative of Keating or not. Nor do I care. They guy is being used and not very effectively.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
why are your decisions on who to vote for not based on the person just telling you what they will do, and you deciding from that?
why do opposing sides have to speak harshly about each other?
a canidate should just get up there tell you what they will do and be done with that.
being rude, or who can be the rudest should never be the bases for who is qualified to be president.
Posted by: one of america allies | November 1, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
BREAKING NEWS! McCain is now LEADING in the polls! (based on Zogby – Drudge Report)
________________________________________
There is a reason most legitimate pollsters don’t give Zogby much value. Zogby sets his party weightings based on the exit polls from the most recent election, meaning 2004.
In 2004 roughly an equal amount of Democrats and Republicans voted.
According to essentially every available poll, Democrats now have somewhere between a 5-point and a 10-point advantage in party ID.
Posted by: Paige | November 1, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
to Peter-Chicago
You worry that “Pelosi, Reed, Frank, Dodd, Axelrod, Patrick, Dashle and Obama are wrong!”
But McPalin are dangerous!! He says that he’s been “tested”. On what really? What we get to see is that he did not pass most of these tests. He’s erratic, keeps offending many of his own party’s leaders and then complains about lack of support. To have been a shot down war hero is no credential for a commander in chief. By comparison, Obama’s discussion with Gen. Petraeous on military and political strategy in Iraq certainly was of a superior caliber.
Posted by: Eric | November 1, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
I just don’t know…
Illegal aunt is just one of the latest negatives against Obama – whom we still don’t know well.
He kicks newspapaers off the plane that do nothing other than what they’re supposed to do, ask questions.
Past associations.
Reports of not making the one certain qualification outlined in the Constitution, born in the USA.
Obvious dislike towards Isreal. Evident by his mentor Jesse Jackson and now this interview with this radical that hates Isreal and the jewish.
His only record he has is what he did or didn’t do in Chicago. What’s the death toll in Chicago vs Iraq? What about violent crime or crime period?
How are his views of the Bill of Rights? He wouldn’t deny law abiding citizens of their rights would he? Can the law abiding of Chicago own guns?
Too many questions without any answers and there is only 3 days left.
Who’s going to get the answers when he kicks off newspapers that would possibly ask?
Wecome to State Media of Obamination.
Posted by: Concerned in WI | November 1, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
More collateral damage. People like Aunt Zeituni should be left out of this. There is ample information available to make a judgement on the character of the O-man without dragging his alleged relatives into the spotlight and messing with their lives. This woman did not seek attention, so far as I know. Leave her be and spend your valuable time as a journalist poking and prodding the candidates.
Posted by: jcarob | November 1, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Obama’s aunt is only important because the GOP has nothing else to run on. One needs no further proof of their utter desperation. The truly sad part is that they already have this lo-info dumb-ass voter in the tank.
They got him once they started defending the much maligned Joe the Plumber. Let’s forget that Obama did not launch poor joe into the national spotlight…That…er…um was John McCain and then he acts offended that anyone would research Joe whom he trots out on stage with him every chance he gets. I mean Jeez, John, you promote him as an “American Hero” (HUH?) and your “Role Model” (HUH?). And not to defy Gods of chance, Joe is ever the populist and opportunist. Let’s forget that Joe knows naught of which he speaks, let’s focus on his deals that have surplanted his dream of owning a plmubing business. First the book, then the run for Congress and now he has an agent for a music album. I also heard the skinheads were courting him.
McCain has been running a doomed campaign since he made a silk purse out of a moose ear in his Sarah Palin VP selection and Joe is just the latest rabbit he pulled out of the hat…and we’re siupposed to focus on Obama’s aunt? Sorry, the heri keri circus side show is much more entertaining.
Posted by: Bob | November 1, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Common sense,
I enjoyed your post on the Vietnam veteran.
Funny how McCain and Palin always come up with “Joe the…” They try to make us believe they stand up for the ordinary guy. Maybe Sarah Palin does, in some perverted way.
But the Republican manifesto says that things like limits on the length of the work week, minimum wages, guaranteed healthcare and subsidized college tuition are “socialist” and interfere with the sacred Free Market.
Where would we be without great men like FDR? Would he be labeled “socialist” by the GOP?
We all know the answer to that question!
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
It is okay to get Obama family involved and Palin and McCain is a no go. I thought family were off limits.
McCain supporters have lost all values. This is so low. There is no story here. Just the other day itr was that she was neglected and troday she is here illegally. How far can they go.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: James | November 1, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
jcarob,
Well said.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
My, My that John McCain and his terrorist associates.
“During the late 1990s, the Senator supported and reportedly helped arm an organization that, while eventually tolerated by the U.S. foreign policy establishment, was accused of terrorist activities and allegedly had ties to al Qaeda.
During the late stages of the Balkan War, the Kosovo Liberation Army was known for committing incredible atrocities in its efforts to facilitate Kosovo’s independence from Yugoslavia. The guerrilla group often was responding to acts of violence committed against its own people. But its tactics were, nevertheless, viewed as condemnable: abductions and murders, systematic burning and looting of homes, and harassment and intimidation of Yugoslav officials. “
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Bob… it is the media that has brought attention to Auntie, not the McCain campaign. If you must rail at someone, direct your wrath at the culprit.
Posted by: jcarob | November 1, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
“Common sense”
Please.
The basic tenet of the Republican Party is that anyone, anywhere can be anything and be as successful as they want to be if they are smart, talented, and willing to work hard.
The notion that the rich elite are somehow oppressing the workers was the most powerful tool of the Bolsheviks fomenting revolution and murder on the grandest scale in history.
I hear people all the time saying “Well, well. The Repubs always SAY that, but SECRETLY, they’re controlling everything, and keeping all the money and keeping the working man down.”
Did you trade a fire helmet for a tin foil hat?
Obama thinks you have.
Posted by: JRinLA | November 1, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
The MSM is really showing its color this time! Joe “the fake and lying” plumber’s back taxes are off limits as well as domestic violence charges. Sarah Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy is off limits (eventhough she lives in the same house). Sarah Palin’s husband’s secessionist ties are off limits. Cindy and John McCain’s infidelity is off limits. Generally, family is considered off limits, but now they want to go after an old woman.
Posted by: Dawn | November 1, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Well, we no longer have to work or do anything: Obama will solve all our problems.
Obama will pay our mortgage
Fill our gas tanks
and put food on the table
He will provide new closthes and cars for everyone.
The only problem that Obama has is that Obama can not help his own relatives living in huts and on welfare.
Posted by: Trump Bryant | November 1, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
0bama represents a grave danger to the future by his, Mr. 0bama’s “Class War” on Americans.
The ideal of sharing wealth, equalizing class divide has been so powerful, sweeping half a Europe and Asia and South America in the first half of the 20th Century.
The ideals of Marxism are not necessarily wrong; in fact, they are extremely appealing, and the history of the 20th century is a proof.
Yet, none of the practitioners have achieved their noble causes, each has left millions dead, in smaller places like Vietnam and Cambodia, and 10s of millions in larger states. The only major survivor of this practice is China, who has adopted Capitalism by all means except some certain rights that we enjoy here as granted – which is a different topic.
Socialism, a precursor of Communism, has never had a chance being practiced in the US. Few really know what socialism is, but what 0bama wants to do IS socialism.
0bama is masterfully adopting the classic class divide of Karl Marx, playing one class – the 95% of the poor – against another class – the rich, the 5% – to achieve his ambition.
It is not progressive taxation that makes 0bama a socialist.
It is the Class Struggle that makes 0bama a Socialist, Stupid!
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
How are his views of the Bill of Rights? He wouldn’t deny law abiding citizens of their rights would he? Can the law abiding of Chicago own guns?
Too many questions without any answers and there is only 3 days left.
Who’s going to get the answers when he kicks off newspapers that would possibly ask?
Wecome to State Media of Obamination.
Posted by: Concerned in WI | Nov 1, 2008 11:04:47 AM
Go to his website and find out where he stands on guns. Here are the highlights:
REALITY: OBAMA HAS CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL, AS WELL AS THE RIGHTS OF LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS
Obama Supported A Package Of Legislation That Would Limit Handgun Sales To One A Month
Obama Voted To Prohibit Multiple Sales Of Handguns Within A 30-Day Period
Obama Disagreed With The NRA That “People Should Be Unimpeded And Unregulated On Gun Ownership;” In Favor Of Handgun Registration And Licensing Requirements
Obama: America Has A “Tradition Of Gun Ownership In This Country That Can Be Respected.”
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Concerned in Ohio… Two wrongs do not make a right. The media relentless attack on Palin and her family were grossly unfair, just as dragging Auntie Zeituni into the spotlight is grossly unfair. But that’s what you get when the C students end up as “journalists”.
Posted by: jcarob | November 1, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
It is not progressive taxation that makes 0bama a socialist.
It is the Class Struggle that makes 0bama a Socialist, Stupid!
Posted by: d0 | Nov 1, 2008 11:19:35 AM
I guess you missed Larry King when McCain was asked if Obama was a socialist and McCain said no.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
JRinLA,
Have you ever been to Europe? Say Germany, France, Italy, Austria, Britain?
Most Americans think Europe has stayed where it was just after WWII and is still waiting for us to come visit with Levis, Marlboros and a Hershey bar.
It’s time for a reality check. Living standards in Europe are generally much higher than in the U.S. and income disparity is much lower. Criminality is a fraction of what it is in the U.S. Nearly 100% have access to healthcare.
Did you know that America has more prisoners than communist China, in spite of the fact there are four times more Chinese than Americans?
Maybe, just maybe… there might be things we could learn from “European Socialists” by taking our eyes off our deeply sunken belly buttons and looking!
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
I am against illegal immigration and am a McCain supporter. (Yes, I know that would have sounded like an oxymoron a year ago.) Having said that, I want to say that I agree families should be left out of the debate (except, perhaps, if a very close family member should denigate the USA).
Now lets see the Dems FINALLY put a hands-off the family campaign philososphy into practice. I won’t hold my breath.
(By the way, my previous post about Michelle and Barack the day after election day is a metaphorical interpretation of an Obama deafeat and not a personal attack on Michelle, or Barack Obama for that matter. Just to be clear on this.)
Posted by: topo2005 | November 1, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Obama’s illegal aunt living off Massachusetts taxpayers. All the reasons for VOTING YES on Prop 1 to get rid of state taxes.
Posted by: vs | November 1, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Hmmmmmm…….. A half sister to a father that spent one month with his child. Sounds like a lot of American families to me.
How is this relevant?
Posted by: Thinking | November 1, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
JRinLA,
“The basic tenet of the Republican Party is that anyone, anywhere can be anything and be as successful as they want to be if they are smart, talented, and willing to work hard.”
The republicans don’t have a stronghold on those tenets. As a democrat, I hold the same belief. Many of us do. But the “Joe the Plumber” is a perfect example of someone claiming to be something he is not, claiming to be offended by “socialist” policy that he’s benefited from for years all the while defending giving welfare to those more fortunate than he is. He says “I” very well. The irony is that he dreams of owning a business while he keeps supporting the party that prevents him from reaping the rewards of whatever “hard work” he does and saving enough money to make his dream real.
I believe the loudest opposers of Obama have such scewed thinking that they take the tenets you mention and twist that into tenets of their own. Tenets that say “anyone, anywhere can be anything and be as successful as they want to be if they are willing to do the bidding for the rich, be popular, and willing to steal from their neighbors (by not paying taxes).”
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
I don’t want to “spread the wealth around” as Obama plans to do.
It’s socialism & communism at it’s worst. No thanks. I’ll take capitalism. It’s what has made America great.
Let’s not forget that.
Be careful of what you wish for. Mr. hopey changey is bad news for America.
Far too many unanswered questions remain about Barack Hussein Obama. Yep, that’s his legal name, not a “smear”.
What do Ted Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy (and ALL of the Kennedy family) have to say about the revelations of Obama pals domestic terrorists William Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn dedicating their book “Prarie Fire” their “communist manifesto” to Sirhan Sirhan, the convicted killer of Bobby Kennedy?
I have something to say. Bobby Kennedy was a childhood hero of mine, and I am deeply offended.
Obama has far too many nefarious relationships, Ayers, Dorhrn, Rezko, Auchi, Khalidi, Farakaan, Black Liberation Theology, Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, Meeks, Emil Jones, Mayor Daley of Chicago, Raila Odinga, a radical Muslim Kenyan leader who claims to be Obama’s cousin, is he or isn’t he?
The media has failed to do their job. Obama’s had a free pass the entire campaign.
If there was any shred of credibility left in the media it died in 2008.
Put country first and party second.
McCain 08.
Posted by: H | November 1, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
topo2005,
Do you recall Barack Obama’s reaction when there was talk about Palin’s pregnant teen daughter?
It was totally honorable, something like “family is off limits” and “my mother had me when she was 18″.
He and Biden have never made public, personal, name-calling attacks against McCain or Palin.
The same can’t be said of their opponents.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Paul New Man… you leave out one important fact regarding the europe. It is unable to defend itself in the face of a monolithic threat, e.g., a resurgent Russia, or an amorphous threat, such as Islamic extremism. The EU countries have been living under the benefits of NATO for as long as I can remember and one very big benefit has been economic.
Posted by: jcarob | November 1, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
And Paul.
Yeah. I’ve been there. All over. The educated and ambitious all want to come here.
Posted by: JRinLA | November 1, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
H: “It’s socialism & communism at it’s worst. No thanks. I’ll take capitalism. It’s what has made America great.”
If you believe that Obama’s proposal to use the 90′s tax brackets and a capital gains tax lower than the one institute by Reagan in 1986 is “socialism and communism” then you are a poster child for the Republican Party of Ignorance.
EVERY first world, free nation on earth uses a progressive tax system to spread the wealth. (Or they are explicitly socialist, like Iceland with their 36% flat tax.) It is the only system ever seen that creates stable, prosperous societies which is why the wealthy put it in place. But I suppose facts and reality have no place in the fantasy land that the Republican base lives in.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 1, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Follow the money trail.
It’s impossible with Obama because he’s accepting massive donations that are untraceable.
The obscene amount of money Obama has raised and is spending should give ALL Americans cause for concern.
With every donation strings are attached.
Who’s controlling the strings on Obama?
One thing we know for sure, Obama is a product of and tool of the corrupt Chicago political machine, arguably the most corrupt in the nation. THESE are NOT the people we want anywhere near the White House. Wash D.C. is corrupt enough without adding these thugs to the seat of power.
Another large funder of Obama is George Soros, a foreign born global billionaire who is anti-American and anti-Capitalism.
Is George Soros someone you want influencing our government????????
I don’t.
McCain 08.
Posted by: Y | November 1, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Who cares.
Posted by: TJ | November 1, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
jcarob,
There is some truth to what you say, to the extent that Europe benefited from the Marshall plan and from NATO protection during the cold war.
The trouble is, they contribute to NATO too. The Bush approach to Iraq was “you’re with us, or you’re against us”. The result was that NATO didn’t march in lock step.
We have allies in Europe, which we have to respect.
McCain has said he would not even talk to the Prime Minister of Spain.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Paul New man:
With three quarters of a billion dollars, it is not hard to have minions do your dirty work while keeping your hands “clean”. (See what high-up people in Ohio governmant are doing by accessing Joe the Plumber’s files in their databases.)
Posted by: topo2005 | November 1, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
What do Ted Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy (and ALL of the Kennedy family) have to say about the revelations of Obama pals domestic terrorists William Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn dedicating their book “Prarie Fire” their “communist manifesto” to Sirhan Sirhan, the convicted killer of Bobby Kennedy?
Posted by: H | Nov 1, 2008 11:31:29 AM
Most of the Kennedy family is backing him. I don’t get your point on this part.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
To jmm:
Why didn’t Cindy McCain help her sister? She IGNORED HER HER ENTIRE LIFE – she lived in poverty and john and cindy lived the lifestyle of the rich and famous. This is her SISTER!
HONESTLY, THEY PREACH THEY ARE THE TORCH BEARERS OF CHRISTIANITY AND SO DO ALL YOU SUPPORTERS AND YET YOU ARE SOOOO ZEALOUS YOU DO NOT PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH- HYPOCRITES IS NOT WHAT IS PREACHED IN THE BIBLE. SO MUCH HATE IN THESE POSTS IT’S SCARY. GLAD THIS IS NOT WE LEARNED IN MY CHURCH.
Posted by: JTI | November 1, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
JRinLA,
I know a few who want to go work on stem cell research in California.
Ironic.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
So where’s the story? What does Obama have to do with this?
What about McCain’s senile brother cursing at 911 operators?
That was another non story.
Here’s a story:
So much of the country’s wealth has been distributed upward.
If you go back to 1979, prior to the period when the growth in inequality really took off in the United States, the top 5 percent on average had 11 times the average income of the bottom 20 percent. If you fast forward to the year 2000, the most recent economic peak, you find that that ratio increased to 19 times. So over the course of those two decades, the gap between the wealthiest and the lowest income families grew from 11 times to 19 times.
If you divide the work force into quintiles, or fifths, based on their wages, in the bottom fifth, 18 percent of the workforce has pension coverage and one-third has health coverage. If you then look at the top fifth, you’ll find that 73 percent has pension coverage, and 81 percent has healthcare coverage.
Practically any variable that has to do with how economic growth is distributed — compensation, benefits, pensions, health insurance, quality of education, quality of housing, exposure to crime — will yield this kind of highly skewed result. Wealth disparity is far more concentrated than income disparity.
This was in 2000, now it’s even worse.
Bush, I mean McCain, wants to make permanent the capital gains tax cut which will remove needed tax funds from
the government just when it needs them for infrastructure and stimulus for the economy. Rich people do not spend their money, they make investments in banking, like the bad investments we are now rescuing.
Rather than making cuts in spending, why not increase taxes for those reaping the most from our economic system?
For years we have been borrowing from foreign powers to run the government while the rich keep growing richer off our debtor economy.
Without these needed funds our country will go the way of Mexico.
I say viva Obama!
Posted by: seemstome | November 1, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
mccain is sickening; disgusting tactics – picking on some elderly private person – how christian!
Posted by: b48 | November 1, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Jwench,
“Most of the Kennedy family is backing him. I don’t get your point on this part.”
Don’t worry about this guy. I’ve seen his rants elsewhere. He’s trying to tie Obama with Sirhan Sirhan.
He’s a real nut case.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
“I suppose facts and reality have no place in the fantasy land that the Republican base lives in. ”
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 1, 2008 11:36:23 AM
Yup, that’s why chances are high that after 11/5 and the war heroe’s debacle the super mom together with the plumber and the support of many six packs will set up a “populist” party of their own.
Posted by: Eric | November 1, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
I had a father who abandoned us, and I have relatives on his side I don’t know or may have met once. This is the case with Obama. It is ridiculous to expect him to be responsible for the conduct of numerous relatives he did not even grow up with.
Posted by: Ang | November 1, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Jake, I read your report on this half-sister of Obama’s Kenyan father who didn’t raise him.
Now please tell me and explain, what’s the relevance of it?
BTW – Ronald Reagan’s son Ron officially endorsed Obama today. I don’t think a Reagan cares about half-aunts; nor do I.
Posted by: noonan | November 1, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
“Leave her be and spend your valuable time as a journalist poking and prodding the candidates.”
Hypocrite!
Now, you mean that only now you want to investigate the candidates only.
Three words for you to look into pal: Joe the plumber!
The double standard of the Bamabots is pathetic and obvious.
Posted by: Fan of the 48 | November 1, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
She gave money to his campaign and she is living on us. I am tired of my hard earned money going for giveaway programs to illegals. If she wants to be a citizen let her work for it..No, it is too easy not to.
*************************************
Do you know for a fact that she isn’t working?
I am opposed to McCain using my money to run his campaign. If he wants to be President let him work for his donations. I am tired of my hard earned money going for giveaway programs to Republicans.
Posted by: Thinking | November 1, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
My Grandmother came to America illegally and lived here many years before finally getting her citizenship. She was born in Spain and was refused a resident visa as most people from the southern part of Europe were in the early part of the twentieth century.
She traveled to Mexico and crossed the border at Laredo to get a needed eye operation. She never left.
Grandmother settled in Los Angeles, taught music lessons, and raised five wonderful and talented children. She finally got her citizenship in 1936.
We are allowing thouands of Iraqis into the United States because we feel guilty about destroying their country.
We can afford to let this poor woman stay- and leave her alone.
Posted by: Lucas Gilmore | November 1, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Can you bring back a baby from Bangladesh into the US without papers and THEN apply? Nope. Can a senator speed up the process or get special treatment or rubber stamped acceptance because he is a senator vs. a regular person?
Posted by: cdr | November 1, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Y: “It’s impossible with Obama because he’s accepting massive donations that are untraceable.”
This is a lie. Every donation over $200 is recorded and reported to the exact same degree as John McCain. What is your definition of massive? $200?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 1, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Lucas Gillmore,
Well said, nice story.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
“Why didn’t Cindy McCain help her sister? She IGNORED HER HER ENTIRE LIFE – she lived in poverty and john and cindy lived the lifestyle of the rich and famous. This is her SISTER!”
“My friends, when elected I will treat all of you just like you are one of my family.”
JOHN MCCAIN
CORPORATIONS FIRST COUNTRY LAST
Posted by: seemstome | November 1, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
No wonder Obama will not be transparent about his donations…..wonder just how much of it is illegal….like the $260 from his aunt….
Posted by: equalityrpt | November 1, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Fan of the 48: “Three words for you to look into pal: Joe the plumber!”
McCain put forward Joe the plumber as a “real world example” of an ordinary guy who would see increased taxes under Obama during the third debate. IT WAS A LIE – the fact, reality, is JOE WOULD GET A TAX CUT. MCCAIN’S OFT-REPEATED EXAMPLE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. The FACT that John McCain’s example was a fantasy based on a lie is VERY RELEVANT to the public understanding the reality of Obama’s tax plan and therefore it is reasonable it was reported.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 1, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Boy oh Boy all the dirtys coming out of the woodwork…..If Obama told all of Mc BUSH’s hidden don’t ask don’t tell you would be so surprided what this man and his wannna be Barbie wife have done.NOT PRETTY….The last thing Mc Cain wants os Bush helping him he is the one who put him in the ditch in the first place…Mc Cain is dying out there and Palin was part of it.Say what you want but this womanis a time bomb waiting to explode.Where are her medical records the doctor must have had time now to doctor them…
Posted by: NH voter | November 1, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
I commend this news paper for reporting the truth about a man asking us to allow him to be the leader of the free world.
I am suprised that you can do it at all.
The Federal Court restraining order that Obama filed in PA.said that American citizens do not have the right to ask questions about the candidate.
It is a new Nation now. I just am trying to learn the correct lingo myself.
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Thinking,
Exactly! McCain’s “public financing” was a waste of good ole taxpayer money. I think McCain should have Sarah Palin take some of that $150K wardrobe back to the Wall Street stores she bought them from so that their supporters can use the money to buy books and newspapers.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
How is Obama responsible for a distant relative’s action – one whom he barely knows? Then is John McCain resposnsible for Cindy’s criminal behaviour.
Posted by: feminist50 | November 1, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Mr. 0bama has just come out and explained that he did not know his aunt was living in the US illegally.
He has done nothing, is doing nothing, and will do nothing. He has zero records of significance that benefits more than himself. He is the only One Senator of 100 who has written exactly Zero legislation.
Now, he does not know anything significant in his life and family, the illegal status of the person he vividly described in his Dreams of His Father.
What does he, Mr. Liar, know?
Do you trust such a shady character to be your President to guard the borders, to uphold the Law, to solve the problem of Illegal Aliens?
Posted by: factcheck | November 1, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Welcome to ObamaWorld.
If he can’t take care of his auntie, how can he possibly take care of all his Kool-Aid drinkers?
Yea, that’s it: hope and change, right?
Posted by: Captain America | November 1, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Why didn’t Cindy McCain help her sister? She IGNORED HER HER ENTIRE LIFE – she lived in poverty and john and cindy lived the lifestyle of the rich and famous. This is her SISTER!”
“My friends, when elected I will treat all of you just like you are one of my family.”
JOHN MCCAIN
CORPORATIONS FIRST COUNTRY LAST
Posted by: seemstome | Nov 1, 2008 11:48:12 AM
Her sister is voting for Obama.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
jhw539
You can’t be that desperate to think that McCain planted Joe the plumber. That isn’t the issue here. Can’t you stay on topic?
The issue is Joe the plumber and Obama are on video and Joe made the One look bad. The media, in Obama’s hip pocket, illegally tore into this man’s records and life.
Now, some other poster wants the media to “leave this woman alone and focus only on the candidates”.
A little hypocritical, don’t you think?
Posted by: Fan of the 48 | November 1, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
This is so a non story. Trouble finding something of substance to talk about.I have an aunt and Uncle I’ve met 3 times in my 46 years. I have Aunts I’ve never met. And cousins I’ve never met. SO WHAT!
Posted by: Bea | November 1, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Fan of the 48,
“You can’t be that desperate to think that McCain planted Joe the plumber. That isn’t the issue here. Can’t you stay on topic?”
He didn’t plant him but he sure scooped him up!
McCain’s campaign was so void of ideas that they latched onto Joe much too quickly.
Joe has recently been recorded making some pretty racist, facist remarks on TV.
He’s a loose canon. McCain better hope that November 4 comes quickly, before Joe turns into a real embarrassment, like Palin did.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
The point is Barack Obama launched his political campaign for the Illinois Senate in the living room of William Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn’s home in Hyde Park in Chicago.
The point is the Kennedy’s have endorsed Barack Obama. The point is Bobby Kennedy was killed by Sirhan, Sirhan and Ayers and Dorhn dedicated their book “Prarie Fire” to Sirhan, Sirhan.
The point is, IT’S OFFENSIVE!
The point is Barack Obama and Michelle Obama have had a long term relationship with William Ayers and Berardine Dorhn.
The point is William Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn are admitted domestic terrorists who would likely be serving lifetime federal sentences for their terrorists activities had the FBI not bungled their case on a technicality. Both Ayers and Dorhn were on the FBI’s Most Wanted List for a decade while they hid underground.
Ayers and Dorhn were members of the domestic terrorist organization called the “Weather Underground” a radical group that in the 1960′s and 1970′s planned and executed violent bombings of homes and government buildings throughout the United States, including the Pentagon, the U.S. Capitol and police stations. Innocent people were injured and killed.
Both Ayers and Dorhn are unrepentent to this day. Ayers said his ONLY regret is that they “didn’t do more”.
Ayers and Dorhn have written multiple books detailing their criminal activities and ranting against America, against capitalism, for anarchy, for killing your rich parents, for poisoning the minds of young children with their anti-American drivel, they dedicate their books to conviceted cop killers, convicted criminals of all stripes.
Ayers was quoted as saying in his book “Fugitive Days” “guilty as sin, free as a bird…”
These two anti-American, anti-Capitalism creeps shoud NEVER be considered “respected members of ANY community”. They should be shunned. They certainly should not be in positions of education where they continue to poison the minds of our youth.
Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois in Chicago.
Dorhn is a Director of the Family Law Center at Northwestern University.
The question is WHY? Why would ANY university hire these two creeps?
Why would any parent or student want to take any classes from these two creeps?
Why would Barack Obama want to associate with the likes of these people?
They live on the public dollar from the government they have railed against a lifetime. It’s disgusting.
Michelle Obama was working with Bernardine Dorhn at the Chicago Law Firm of Sidley & Austin (Dorhn due her prison time can not get a license to practice law) and her wealthy father in law Ayers was the head of Commonwealth Edison, a major client of Sidley & Austin.
Barack Obama came to work at Sidley and Austin and then Michelle Robinson was his “mentor”.
Obama went on to work with Bill Ayers at the Woods Fund where they awarded money to the currently under criminal investigation ACORN among other questionable organizations.
Obama worked with ACORN for over ten years, doing legal representation and community organization. An ACORN subsidiary, Project Vote, hired Obama as it’s national director in 1992. Voting fraud is one of the main criminal investigations ACORN is under scrutiny for at this time in multiple states.
Obama was hired by Bill Ayers to direct the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Obama reported to Bill Ayers for over 8 years on the Annenberg Challenge. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was a massive failure and wasted millions of dollars.
Obama has repeatedly lied about his relationship with Ayers and Dorhn, calling Ayers “just a guy in the neighborhood”.
You are judged by the company you keep.
Barack Obama lacks the character and judgement to be President of the United States.
Barack Obama lacks the credentials and qualifications to be President of the United States.
Far too many unanswered questions remain about Barack Hussein Obama.
VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN 08.
Posted by: H | November 1, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
seemstome,
“Why didn’t Cindy McCain help her sister? She IGNORED HER HER ENTIRE LIFE – she lived in poverty and john and cindy lived the lifestyle of the rich and famous. This is her SISTER!”
“My friends, when elected I will treat all of you just like you are one of my family.”
That was funny and I had forgotten about that McCain line. My favorite is “You’re all Joe the plumber”.
No. No. Say it ain’t so, Joe. I don’t want to be treated like McCain treats his family and I MOST CERTAINLY AM NOT Joe the Plumber.
I have a job, therefore, I pay taxes!
Obama/Biden 08!
P.S. Sarah Palin’s on CNN right now wearing a bad-arse blue outfit, but I don’t think they should have paid $150K for it.)
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
How does an illegal get into public housing? That’s a question I’d like answered.
Overall, though, it would take a lot more than this to derail the Obama train.
If his ties to terrorists, his alliances with radical anti-Semites, his intent to stifle incentives for success (and on and on and on), don’t bother people, then an old lady’s immigration status certainly won’t.
And McCain isn’t gong to make a big deal out of this. He is sympathetic to illegals, which is why he didn’t get my vote in the primary.
Posted by: Darlene | November 1, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Fan of the 48:
“jhw539
You can’t be that desperate to think that McCain planted Joe the plumber. That isn’t the issue here. Can’t you stay on topic?”
I NEVER suggest that Joe was a plant. I claimed, based on REALITY and the FACTS that he was a liar, the situation he described (his buying a small plumbing business and being subjected to higher taxes) was a FANTASY, and that John McCain used this false story repeatedly to FALSELY attack Obama’s tax plan. Everyone can read what I post and make their own decision about just who is having trouble “staying on topic.” Do you deny that Joe’s claim was a LIE? Do you think many small plumbing business owners take how $250k+ a year in profit?
“The issue is Joe the plumber and Obama are on video and Joe made the One look bad.” BY LYING “The media, in Obama’s hip pocket,” LEGALLY FACTCHECKED JOE’S STATEMENTS AFTER THE DEBATE AND FOUND HE WAS LYING AND INCORRECT IN HIS FUNDAMENTAL ARGUMENT.
“illegally tore into this man’s records and life.”
I’m not big on reading the Enquirer, so please cite what details have been released illegally. I didn’t find it relevant to follow the story beyond the basic fact check showing JOE WAS LYING. The public fact he is violating licensing laws, the public fact that he has a lien filed against him – those are just trivialities to be expected of Republicans.
I guess the Republican Party of Ignorance gets annoyed when the media keeps pointing out reality.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 1, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
H,
The point is…
… you’re clutching at straws
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Individuals in the federal government made sure AP had the story. Why, folks? Republican politics. Senator Obama cannot be expected to keep track of a very large half-family he did not grow up with. This has no reflection on him whatsover. I mean, please. As for discussions here about “Joe the Plumber”? Yes he was a plant: he is related to Charles Keating and Obama’s answer to him was thoughtful and thorough. As for poor Cindy McCain – yes, she’s totally blackballed her half-sister, referring to herself as an “only child.” This half-sister, from Cindy’s father’s first marriage, received nothing. Cindy inherited the fortune. It’s not Cindy’s fault – but referring to herself as an “only child” is cold indeed.
Posted by: Wiscon108 | November 1, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Obama said there would be viciousness in the final days of the election.
Great wealth and great power surrenders nothing without a fight. When my people came to this country they faced similar obstacles to citizenship. There is nothing to be ashamed of here, only in the demonization of the desire to be in America. For that, there is no defense,
no excuse. Obama’s aunt should be praised for not wanting to leave our country, she loves it. Don’t you?
Posted by: seemstome | November 1, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Maybe you are feeling some economic pain now. 0bama will keeps his one eye open – to fight his Class War on Americans – and another eye closed – to allow Illegal Aliens flood the country, pretending he does not know and thus excuse from upholding the Law. Besides, it will increase his base of the Poor Class against the dwindling Rich Class of 5%.
Posted by: factcheck | November 1, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
The fact is that Obama’s campaign is accepting untraceable donations.
For example, credit cards without names are used repeatedly with fake names.
Obama made the decision to allow this.
Deep pocket donors who are personally maxed out under their own names and credit cards can purchase these types of cards en masse and use them to game the system.
Wake up.
Mr. hopey changey is the most corrupt politician I’ve ever seen. It’s stunning.
ANY candidate who’s raised over 600 MILLION dollars is the one you MUST vote against.
Posted by: Y | November 1, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
As a pathological liar, 0bama, claims knowing nothing about his aunt living in the US illegally, is practicing a Classic Marxist Class Struggle against its own people within.
Posted by: factcheck | November 1, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Send the old illegal auntie back to where she belongs. ASAP. She should not be allowed to be living on the pubic dollar when she’s not even a citizen.
No illegals should be allowed to collect one dime from our government.
It’s outrageous and unacceptable.
Barack Obama should be ashamed of himself.
Posted by: G | November 1, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Posted by: H | Nov 1, 2008 12:01:06 PM
I guess you missed that Ayers is a non issue. If they had anything of value don’t you think they would have used it.
Google McCain and KLA and report back to me.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Darlene,
She wasn’t illegal when she moved in the project. Her immigration status apparently changed from pending to denied. Easy to do if you don’t have enough money to pay the fees.
She was formerly a computer programmer. She was probably working on a visa of some sort.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 1, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
You folks posting here must either be really young or hired to keep things stired up. I am part American Indian, notice I said American Indian and not Indian American. I am eligible for a handout, but I prefer to work for what I get. Some of you say you are ashamed of the way I think, well the feeling is mutual. This is supposed to be America (at least for a few more days) so therefore I am entitled to my opinion today. Hard earned money should not be given to the illegals in this country. If they want to be citizens of this country, work for it and become a citizen. Now if you disagree with that, that is ok, but you give them your money not mine. Barack Hussien Obama has got to be lying about his aunt, he wrote about her in the book, and bet you, there are more. Just wait.
The Lincoln bedroom won’t be big enough for all the bunk beds.
Posted by: Molly | November 1, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
G: “Barack Obama should be ashamed of himself.”
Really? Up until yesterday he was suppose to be ashamed of himself for never offering her any support, money or assistance. Indeed, you can count on one hand the number of times he’s met her in his life (last time 2 years ago).
What, SPECIFICALLY, should Senator Obama be ashamed of? Not personally keeping track of the location and immigration status of the dozens of people in his extended family that he didn’t even meet until he was an adult?
Do you feel the slightest shame for having publicly posted such a stupid position demonstrating just how firmly in the Republican Party of Ignorance you are?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 1, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Factcheck,
Get a braincheck
Posted by: Bust'em | November 1, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Joe the plumber may not have been a plant by the campaign, but he was there to confront Obama and try to make news and show off for his buddies. Once the McCaign camp caught sight of Joe confronting Obama and listening to his crazy politics, they took advantage of the situation. What they didn’t bargain for was the hate Joe would inspire. And the socialist ideals are falling short. Even Arnold looked lame during his speech in Columbus. I had to raise taxes to spread the wealth around, but Obama’s a socialist.Good God how low will they go? Oh, ya the above story.Only Joe and the like will fall into that moronic trap. My republican parents are humiliated by the crapola spewed forth by the party they’ve supported their whole adult lives.
This is truly the sadist election I’ve ever seen.
Posted by: living in Toledo | November 1, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Posted by: Molly | Nov 1, 2008 12:12:10 PM
Please go get a clue.
Posted by: Jwench | November 1, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Molly: ” Barack Hussien Obama has got to be lying about his aunt, he wrote about her in the book, and bet you, there are more. Just wait.”
You are living in a hateful fantasy land with NO supporting FACTS from REALITY. Obama isn’t shy about who his close family is, just as he has quite publicly written about discovering his extended family as an adult. Yes, he wrote about her in his book – about meeting her for the first time when he traveled to Africa as an adult. What a close relationship…
Posted by: jhw539 | November 1, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
This is non-story. Same as McCain’s brother’s use of 911 to report a traffic jam though in that case McCain was actively involved in the campaign.
Posted by: indy_voter | November 1, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
seemstome, You said in your post that Cindy mc Cain’s sister lived poor.
In the family fortune, she had equal power in the trust.
My brother lives in the same neighborhood, and she is well heeled and active in the business.
See when you ask a question about Obama you get no truth from his hidden certified certificate of birth to his hidden Islam religion marked on his application to go to school in Indonesia.
It is pretty easy to vet an American for credibility, they don’t have ability to hide.
It is not so easy to vet a guy who says he has been to 57 of the States with one more to go, and he isn’t even going to Hawaii or Alaska.
60 States is all you need to ask about this “out of step American” who refuses to put his hand over his heart to salute the flag.
Obama filed a law case and won it by judicial rule that American citizens do not have the right to ask about him.
The Constitution is dead….wake up.
We may have less than a month left of the free speech to opinion.
His Civilian National Forces will be thought police.
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
The question we need to ask is who voted for the war that sent 4,200 Americans to the deaths for a lie?
Was it Auntie Zeutumi?
Or was it John McCain?
Posted by: clifton | November 1, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
woman citizen,
Oh no, not another idiot going on about the birth certificate!
Don’t you known why Palin won’t release her medical records?
Posted by: Bust'em | November 1, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
to factcheck | Nov 1, 2008 12:05:04 PM
so this is what you say you checked:
“Maybe you are feeling some economic pain now. 0bama will keeps his one eye open – to fight his Class War on Americans – and another eye closed – to allow Illegal Aliens flood the country, pretending he does not know and thus excuse from upholding the Law. Besides, it will increase his base of the Poor Class against the dwindling Rich Class of 5%.”
Pretty good – for a sarcastic joke. Sounds like o-tone McCain
Posted by: Eric | November 1, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
This is old news.
Posted by: mark | November 1, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
The really sad thing about this story is that it just stirs up more racial hatred.
It will probably give McCain at least a 1% boost in the polls.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 1, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
So what if his half-aunt is in the country illegally. It’s not his fault.
Posted by: alwriter | Nov 1, 2008 12:05:03 PM
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You can, of course, be blinded and stick to the gun, no matter what to the person you support. I respect your “loyalty” to this Person.
However, if you indeed care so deeply what you said you care about, I ask you on what basis you think Mr. 0bama will uphold the Law to stop illegal immigration.
His past, what he has done, which is essentially nothing, and what he knows, which he said he knew nothing, is a glimpse what he will do on illegal immigration.
0bama will do nothing.
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Bust’em…Palin’s only running for VP. How come Obama hasn’t released ANY records? Wonder if he has any medical problems from his “early days”? Seems not much is actually know about him.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | November 1, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
The really sad thing about this story is that it just stirs up more racial hatred.
Posted by: Paul New man | Nov 1, 2008 12:25:20 PM
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Which part of Mr. 0bama blind eyed to illegal immigration is racist?
It is his character, which is zero, his judgments, which have all been wrong.
You can only race-baiting, race-accusing so often, so much.
You have used it up on the Clintons.
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Wendy Button, the Obama speech writer that helped sell the shell game con man, left the entire Dem party and now plans to vote McCain /Palin said:
[quote] I can no longer justify what this party has done and can’t dismiss the treatment of women and working people as just part of the new kind of politics. It’s wrong and someone has to say that. And also say that the Democratic Party’s talking points—that Senator John McCain is just four more years of the same and that he’s President Bush—are now just hooker lines that fit a very effective and perhaps wave-winning political argument…doesn’t mean they’re true.[quote]
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
d0: “Which part of Mr. 0bama blind eyed to illegal immigration is racist?”
It’s not racist, it’s stupid. Obama has not had contact with this distant relative for years and has only seen her about 5 times in his life. I’m not responsible for what my cousin in Virgina does (actually I haven’t even spoken to him for years and don’t even know where he’s living now).
This McCarthy’esque guilt by causal association is a pathetic low even for- especially for- the Republican Party.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 1, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
This is the best the muckrakers on the right could come up with? The depths to which the Republican machinery will sink to sway voters is deplorable to the point of being sickening. What does a poor old woman who risked everything she had to come to America and try to make a better life for herself, who scrounged up all she could to support her nephew, a nephew whom she has every reason to be proud of… what does any of this have to do with Obama being elected president? If McCain seizes on this opportunity and somehow seeks to use it against his opponent, I will lose every single shred of the tiny bit of respect I have left for him.
Posted by: Don Malvo | November 1, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
jhw539,
The only thing you can do is to smear others, change topics, ignoring the lies from whom you support.
Do you know where your aunt is? If you do, ask why 0bama does not know his?
If you don’t, you are in good company of Mr. 0bama for a perfect family value that fit in his Class Struggle perfectly well, because his aunt, a homeless without MY government’s charity, and he himself a multiple millionaire belong to two different classes.
Why should 0bama care about his aunt? And you, do you care to know about your aunt’s welfare, well-being?
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Hey Jwench.. see you are still on Obama’s payroll! Do you happen to work for ACORN? Ayers is just one of the long list of “guys in his neighborhood”
Ayers / Drn/ Rezko / Rev.Wright / Khasildi / Farrakhan. Would you like me to list more?
Keep drinking his Koolaid!
Posted by: chuck | November 1, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Half Aunt? I don’t know the history behind many of my full Aunts. If this is an issue lets talk about McCain’s brother who called the folks in N Virginia communists and also called 911 to complain about the traffic and then berated the 911 operater for his/her response.
Posted by: cj | November 1, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Obama said all laws should be followed. Thus, this is a non-issue.
Obama Supporters: set the tone! We don’t need to answer negative posts with negatives. Obama’s campaign is about us all coming together. He proposes a government where we can all participate in our democracy again. It’s hard to read the attacks, but, they are a part of what a democracy is. People attack so viciously because they are afraid – just as our government has wanted them to be for the past eight years.
The US has big issues to face: we’re ranked 16th and 20th in things like math, science and technology; in a global economy countries like India and China have more honors-level kids than we have kids. The only way we’re going to solve these problems is if we all work together.
A new day is starting next week and there is room in it for everyone. I know we’ve all been taught that the ruling party will impart revenge and domination on the losing party, but it doesn’t have to be that way. Obama has said he does not want it to be that way.
Let’s change the tone now.
Posted by: kdallas999 | November 1, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Sure, Obama didn’t know she was here illegaly. He didn’t hear Wright’s racism. He didn’t go to a party at Ayer’s house. He wasn’t against wearing the flag pin. He accepted no favors from Rezko. He didn’t call McCain ‘John’ in the debates. He was respectful in calling a reporter ‘Sweetie’. What he does know is how to impress the more minor natives with his preacher-like speaches.
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Posted by: Billw | November 1, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Just more fodder for the FOX News and Drudge types to hyperventilate over while the rest of America does the right thing and puts Obama-Biden in the White House.
Posted by: R | November 1, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
kdallas999: So he thinks his own aunt, a 58 year old destitute woman, should be deported?
Posted by: bubbles | November 1, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Obama has not had contact with this distant relative for years and has only seen her about 5 times in his life.
Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 1, 2008 12:34:09 PM
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I understand you explanation, everything can be explained away, and I respect your thought process.
However, if his aunt indeed meant nothing to him, please tell me why he needs to vividly describe this very aunt in his “Dreams of his Father”? Such an inspirational book to so many, including Mr. 0bama by his stories. Yet, he knew nothing about her whereabouts, having no contacts, blind-eyed with her illegal immigration status, willingly and illegally accepts her illegal donations.
You may not like what you hear or see, but truths can be sad or hurt.
Posted by: d0 | November 1, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
kdallas999″
“Let’s change the tone now.”
Typical unaccountable Obama style.
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Posted by: Billw | November 1, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
It’s November 1st.
Do you know where your half-aunts and quarter-uncles and second nieces and fifth cousins are?
Posted by: JoshL | November 1, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
I hope that this makes Obama more sensitive to the plight of illegals in this country and whether he becomes president or goes back to the Senate he works for Immigration Reform as McCain did!
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | November 1, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
‘Auntie Zeituni’ is simply about a flim flam man getting caught in his video lies about being the family she had to turn to.
Law is law, and Obama and family are not above the law.
In this Country, what is good enough for one, is good enough for all.
The poster who said it is about race is nuts!!!!
Early voters now have petitions out and being signed that block inauguration without opening the paperwork to prove he qualifies.
I saw another petition this morning passed around by an angry early voter, who said he is collecting signatures for Obama impeachment.
The man said” I was excited to see a man of my color get into the whitehouse, but I do not want a liar and a snake man of my color in there.”
‘Auntie Zeituni’ living here illegally made him mad. He was angry that Obama has a TV network, but no way to filed proper paperwork to bring her here legally, using a good immigration system in place .
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Obama aunt is a grown woman who is responsible for HER OWN behavior.
He didn’t bring her here. She came on her own.
Posted by: hotandspicy | November 1, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
I’m sure this will be a cute footnote in the campaign history of President Obama. Nice try GOP, and I’m really looking forward to watching you guys try to rebuild your party with Palin and all the religious nuts, the next 4 years are going to be fun!
Posted by: Sacto | November 1, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
d0: “However, if his aunt indeed meant nothing to him, please tell me why he needs to vividly describe this very aunt in his “Dreams of his Father”?”
Have you read the book? Do you think he keeps in close contact with every one of the relatives he met? I fondly remember an aunt from my childhood from a four day visit when I was 11. I have spoken to her for a decade.
“Yet, he knew nothing about her whereabouts, having no contacts, blind-eyed with her illegal immigration status, willingly and illegally accepts her illegal donations.”
He stated his contacts, the last one being about 2 years ago. And it would be very odd if he was keeping up on the immigration status of his half-aunt who he first met as an adult. I can’t even keep my Christmas card address list up to date for my immediate relatives who I’ve known all my life.
I doubt among his 2 million+ donors he noticed his aunt. Do the math – if he read one donor a second it would take him 23 days, non-stop without sleep or pause, just to scan through his donor list.
You’re stretching to condemn Obama based on the immigration status of a half-aunt that no reasonable person would think he knew of. Indeed, up until yesterday you had condemned him for ignoring her and ‘leaving her to rot’ in public housing. Your own metal… flexibility is very telling.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 1, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
The really sad thing about this story is that it just stirs up more racial hatred.
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Why is race always brought into issues? You should go post at Wonkette. I was just there reading some comments , about Trig, and because he wore a costum yesterday, he wanted to be aborted.
Many of the comments agree with that. One even went on to say, that he wanted to dress as an aborted fetus.
These are the members of the party of tolerance,and unity?
Posted by: Jeanie | November 1, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
My Grandmother came to America illegally and lived here many years before finally getting her citizenship. She was born in Spain and was refused a resident visa as most people from the southern part of Europe were in the early part of the twentieth century.
She traveled to Mexico and crossed the border at Laredo to get a needed eye operation. She never left.
Grandmother settled in Los Angeles, taught music lessons, and raised five wonderful and talented children. She finally got her citizenship in 1936.
We are allowing thouands of Iraqis into the United States because we feel guilty about destroying their country.
We can afford to let this poor woman stay- and leave her alone
Posted by: Lucas Gilmore | November 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Im sure if our nation can adopt the McCains daughter Bridget who was brought here illegaly before being adopted by the McCains and our nation we can adopt an old lady who is the Aunty of the man who should and will be our next President.
Zeituni should be alowed to stay!
We the American people are good and generous people!
Obama 08 Powered by people not corporations.
Posted by: Mike NC
Your post caught my eye.
Every applicant into the immigration system that qualifys is allowed citizenship.
This talk that the system doesn’t work is just crap.
If you apply and get in the cue, you are not denied.
The ones who demand free money and break laws should not be allowed to mess it up for the last guy in the cue.
Do you shove everyone out of line at the airport and bank?
What do you think about anyone that would?
Try to use the grey matter before you speak.
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Obama expects us to be charitable and share the wealth yet, he obviously doesn’t share his. If this aunt of his is so beloved why didn’t he help her out?
Like Michelle said, “If you can’t run your own house, you can’t run the White House.”
Posted by: Joanne | November 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
d0: “The only thing you can do is to smear others, change topics, ignoring the lies from whom you support.”
Coming from a Republican this election cycle, that’s hilarious.
No, I don’t know where one of my aunts lives, but I could track her down quickly enough. It is none of my business what her immigration status is and it would be condescension beyond belief for me to arrogantly advise her that her lifestyle is poor and she needs money from me. Poor does not mean lacking dignity.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
What is wrong with Obama? Why does he not help his poor relatives? He has made millions writing his books, with sentimental accounts of aunts and uncles. Why use them for fictional and self-promotional needs, when he is unwilling to give them assistance. A brother of his lives on one dollar a day in Kenya. Charity should begin at home. A blood-relative who is a U.S. citizen can help another relative get immigrant status. It may be that Obama just uses people, and has no empathy for his poor relatives.
Posted by: thecandypoem | November 1, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
SACTO…oh Sacto….
Think again about President Obama.
People who were early voters are now livid that they have been scammed by a snake.
They will not see their Constitution destroyed by the first man of their color to run for office.
He has petitions floating around to block his inauguration, because he used the Courts and an idiot Judge to amend the Constitution stating by restraining order that you as a citizen cannot know a darn thing about him.
He refuses to show his birth certificate …which is required under the Constitution. His medicals and religious belief are not requirements.
A man breaking the Constitution cannot swear in to uphold it.DUH!!!
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
What is wrong with Obama? Why does he not help his poor relatives? He has made millions writing his books, with sentimental accounts of aunts and uncles. Why use them for fictional and self-promotional needs, when he is unwilling to give them assistance. A brother of his lives on one dollar a day in Kenya. Charity begins at home. A blood-relative who is a U.S. citizen can help another relative get immigrant status. It may be that Obama just uses people, and has no empathy for his poor relatives living in a slum.
Posted by: thecandypoem | November 1, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Obama has not bothered to change the lives of his own family members — which he could have very easily done.
How do you expect that he will change the lives of “middle-class” Americans. Who ever believes so and votes for him is just another sucker.
Posted by: nidkus | November 1, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
nidkus,
Obama will let the tax cut expire, which on average is another $1000.00 out of pocket to taxes.
That money will be used to fund equal to the military the Citizen National Security Force.
They have a job to do that police,firemen, State’s B.I.’s,FBI,National Guards,Coast guard,and Homeland defense TSA don’t do.
Many assume it will be either a race based or religious based SS.
What do you think it will be?
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Yes we all know about our relatives – even those who live in our very households -much less the other side of the nation…we know all their intimate details of life.
Ask Sarah Palin in she knows what the daughter who lives under her very roof is doing when she goes out
Let us keep to the issues and purge our Republican Party of neo-Socialists..Those that -
Support farm subsidies,support the TVA(Tennessee Valey Authority) and state owned feed mills and banks as in North Dakota.
Our Republican brethren in North Dakota are even fighting for a state owned airline and insurance company !
The TVA and the electricity it produces is the basis of almost all industry in Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama. It hs been Fed operation since the 1930s-its staunchest supporters in congress are from the reddest parts of those states.
One parties Socialism is the other parties bread and butter
Georgia Redneck Farmer
Winterville GA
Posted by: jerry hersch | November 1, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
thecandypoem,
Obama is simply implementing his wealth redistribution plan via Auntie Zeituni.
Why should he redirect his energy from the numerous Federal court cases he has been filing in several States to block the Constitution, on behalf helping her file her papers to be here.
He need not give her money…he uses the system with a small illgal twist to use your money to support her.
Mind you, any spare cash from that defrauding your wallet tactic, must be sent to the furher immediately.
Even if it is only $5.00
Every 8 bits to saw bucks is a contribution to the machine AKA Obama broadcasting network.
It is beautiful and well thought out. No?
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
woman citizen,
It will be hate-based. Anybody who hates having to work for a living will be its primary members.
Additionally, anybody who hates another for any reason — be it religion, race or country of origin will be its secondary members. And it will be a voluntary membership.
Even now, its basically the people who believe in the philosophy of money-for-nothing that are backing and ushering Obama’s rise to power.
Posted by: nidkus | November 1, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Just more fodder for the FOX News and Drudge types to hyperventilate over while the rest of America does the right thing and puts Obama-Biden in the White House.
Posted by: R
Wrong.
He hasn’t been inaugurated and faces impeachment for lies to Illinois Bar if he is.
Press abused their Consitutional rights by opinioning a candidate to elevate into the ballot.
By the way Raul Castro is on the ballot as well… read it.
This lesson is learned , because said candidate disallows “freedom of the Press” and flings them from his jet plane if they ask.
The outcome of the Press abuses, who didn’t offer up all the facts, actually now scares the beans out of em.
The fun is set to be over, and news will not be allowed at all.How soon?
Try to find the pdf of Obama’s application to the Indonesian school that lists his religion as Islam. It was everywhere on the net, but now google will not let you open it.
If you downloaded the thing, PRINT IT OUT NOW!!!!
Suppression of information is just a start.
The printed word will be the only method soon, and that will be if they can hide the paper presses from the Civilian National Security Forces.
CNSF is a scary power.
Why do we need it?
Press supression.
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
“living in Toledo”– still attacking your neighbor Joe and carrying the Obama water? You wrote of Joe the Plumber, “Joe the plumber may not have been a plant by the campaign, but he was there to confront Obama and try to make news and show off for his buddies.” Give me a break. Thankyou for acknowledging the man was not a “campaign plant” as many still insist. Then you spoil it all with “but he was there to confront…” The man was tossing a football in his own front yard. A national candidate showed up unannounced in his neighborhood, so he went over and asked the candidate a question. That’s how the system is supposed to work– we get to vet the candidates. You can ascribe whatever motives to Joe that you want, but #1, you have no evidence of his motives. I tend to believe his own version of why he asked the question, and #2, far more important, the question and its poser does not matter nearly so much as the answer. If Joe the Plumber had asked an innocuous question like “why are you so fabulous” and gotten a smarmy answer like “no, no, it’s you who are fabulous. You are the change you’ve been waiting for,” no one would have ever heard of Joe outside his neighborhood.
Then you continued, “Once the McCaign camp caught sight of Joe confronting Obama and listening to his crazy politics, they took advantage of the situation.” His politics are hardly crazy. Yes, the McCain camp capitalized, as they should have. They recognized that the message they had been trying to present was breaking through more effectively when it was linked with a common person who shared it, that Joe resonated for many who heard about the incident. McCain is a wealthy man, as is Obama. Obama’s side had effectively been focusing on mcCain’s multiple homes (see, both sides seize on the small moments–that’s how its done) to undercut the message by focusing on the messenger and implying that wealth made him insensitive to those who did not share his economic status (although we are to believe that Obama is somehow immune to this insensitivity). Joe the Plumber put a face to the differences between the Democrat and Republican tax plans.
” What they didn’t bargain for was the hate Joe would inspire.” No kidding! I am amazed at the hate spewed at Joe by folks like you, just because he holds different views than you did, questioned The One, and then would not back down from his views even in the face of an onslaught of abuse. Don’t worry about Joe, however. For every hater, there is a legion of supporters who relate to him and appreciate him.
Then you expand your vitriol to others who have campaigned in Ohio of late: “And the socialist ideals are falling short. Even Arnold looked lame during his speech in Columbus. I had to raise taxes to spread the wealth around, but Obama’s a socialist.Good God how low will they go?” Yes, social ideals will fall short. I don’t think that means what you think that means, as they say i the Princess Bride. Arnold hardly looked lame. There is a difference between having a progressive tax system, which we Republicans support completely, and having a philosophy of using the tax code to ‘spread the wealth.’ Remember when Obama acknowledged in a primary debate that his plan to raise capital gains taxes would not in fact raise more revenue, and he said that didn’t matter, because it would be “more fair.” Taxes should equitably raise revenue for the government– period. Rich should pay more than poor. That is not what Obama’s plan is all about. He feels as an add-on to that, the rich should pay much more, even if it cripples the economy, in order to allow him to send checks to those who pay nothing, in a transfer of wealth I find troubling and unnecessary. And Arnold, and the mcCain campaign generally, does not call Obama a socialist. They contend that his tax plan is based on a socialist idea. Not the same thing.
You conclude with a personal anecdote, claiming your Republican parents are “My republican parents are humiliated by the crapola spewed forth by the party they’ve supported their whole adult lives.” So I’ll match you with my true story that balances that out– my life-long Democrat parents, who despair to think they have raised a Republican child somehow, are ashamed of how Obama has risen to power with no accomplishments by making empty promises. They refuse to vote for an empty suit they consider a danger on the world stage (his tax plan? They have no problem with that. *G*) So they are debating whether they can vote for McCain or if they will simply not mark their ballots for a presidential candidate, for the first time in their lives.
“This is truly the sadist election I’ve ever seen.” Who you callin’ a sadist, Willis? *G*
Use your brain/Vote McCain
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Common Sense, you responded to a previous post from me by saying, “So moderate recognizes the two extremes of the republican party, the rich and the poor. This election is about the middle.” No, hon, I was simply responding to someone’s simplistic stereotype of Republicans (ignorant redneck poor, thanks Mr. Murtha) by countering with the other stereotype (rich and spoiled) and joking that we can’t be both. Actually, the Republican party is a diverse one with people of all economic circumstances– most of us, like most of America, consider ourselves middle class.
You suggested that “We don’t want to be further pushed into poordom by supporting welfare/socialism/tax breaks for the rich.” And yet you plan to vote for Obama? You’ll get to the poorhouse faster that way than by voting for McCain, who plans to cut federal spending and not raise ANYONE’s taxes. If you want to argue that not raising a successful small business owner’s taxes in a recession is ‘welfare for the rich,’ I can’t stop you, but that is not a characterization with which I can agree. Speaking as a small business owner who knows lots of other small business owners, I can tell you that we will be able to continue to employ the majority of America’s workers and to grow our businesses and to compensate our workers well under John McCain, but under Barack Obama, there will be economic contraction, layoffs, and a financial mess.
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
moderate,
The “vote McCain use your brain ” thing is one I haven’t heard before. Just curious, do you remember when the use of subliminals on National Television laws were put in place?
Some people have discussed the use of Subliminals in the Obama channels content on the net.
If the early voters who drank the koolaide,( not understanding that it may have content they were not aware it contained), can they recover and use the brain again?
Posted by: Woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
First, Joe the unlicensed plumber!!! Becomes Joe the famous plumber on his way to Congress. Now, not a whole aunt, but a half-aunt, at the eleventh hour, what next? Send her home if that’s the problem and while we are doing that check to see why the Rupublican presidential candidate is calling his supporters, “my fellow prisoners”. There may be more serious issues to worry about!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Elizabeth Floyd | November 1, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Has anybody been listening to Sarah Palin and John McCain. They are promising everything but Fort Knox, all talk and NO ACTION!! they will lower the taxes, double the child tax deduction, cut the capital gains tax, give tax cuts to the small businesses, education, healthcare, save your homes from foreclosure, etc. people are falling for this line of baloney, where are they going to get their money from, sounds like double the Obama proposal, yet they stand there criticizing Sen. Obama for actually speaking truthfully to the people. Sen. Obama’s plan is socialism and welfare so says Palin and McCain. And their plan is spreading opportunity, they are spreading it alright if you believe this BS, it’s right up there with that bridge to nowhere because that is exactly what they are spreading, Lies to Nowhere. Also, please tell Palin and McCain that if we have won the war in Iraq, leave. What are you still there for. What kind of a war is a war almost won? Sounds like another lie. Enough……..
Posted by: Elizabeth Floyd | November 1, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Elizabeth Floyd,
Did you read the statement by Wendy Button (Obama’s speech writer so fed up with him she quit and is voting Mccain/ Palin?
Please do not form an opinion for debate, based on what you don’t know.
Wendy Button said:
[quote]
But thank God for election 2008. We can talk about the wardrobe and make-up even though most people don’t understand the details about Senator Obama’s plan with Iraq. When he says, “all combat troops,” he’s not talking about all troops—it leaves a residual force of as large as 55,000 indefinitely. That’s not ending the war; that’s half a war.[quote]
Posted by: woman citizen | November 1, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Elizabeth, Yes, I have listened to Palin and McCain– very carefully– as well as to Biden and Obama. You actually wrote: “They are promising everything but Fort Knox, all talk and NO ACTION!!” I swear, that line had me rolling with laughter. It is Obama who has absolutely no record of accomplishment to back up his promises. John McCain has delivered on his promises in the past and will do so this time as well. And it is the Democratic ticket who have promised voters the world– see, for example, Jake Tapper’s long list of promises compiled from Obama’s stump speech. Independent fact check groups have said that Obama has proposed more spending and has not demonstrated an ability to fund that spending, which will result in a much higher deficit than we already have.
You spell out those promises: “they will lower the taxes, double the child tax deduction, cut the capital gains tax, give tax cuts to the small businesses, education, healthcare, save your homes from foreclosure, etc. people are falling for this line of baloney, where are they going to get their money from, sounds like double the Obama proposal, yet they stand there criticizing Sen. Obama for actually speaking truthfully to the people.” These are not expensive promises, Elizabeth. The reduction in taxes, history has shown, usually results in an increase in tax revenue, esp. with capital gains tax cuts. The mortgage plan is already funded with the 700 billion rescue plan. And who on earth still believes that Obama speaks “truthfully” to the people? When he says he won’t raise taxes for those making less than 250,000? Or when he says he won’t raise taxes for those making less than 200,000 (his latest ad)? Or maybe the truth is when his running mate says less than 150,000?
In your opinion, “Sen. Obama’s plan is socialism and welfare so says Palin and McCain. And their plan is spreading opportunity, they are spreading it alright if you believe this BS, it’s right up there with that bridge to nowhere because that is exactly what they are spreading, Lies to Nowhere.”
What do you call taking money from the people who create jobs and giving it to people who do not pay income taxes? That’s not a progressive tax system (which Republicans support), that’s a wealth transfer system. It is not designed to stimulate business activity (as the McCain tax cuts are) or to raise government revenue. (And since you brought it up, did you see that Perspective piece in Newsweek this week by the mayor of the town involved in the “bridge to nowhere”? Gave me second thoughts. But McCain opposed the bridge, and all such earmarks, and will do so as president as well)
Then, in a complete nonsequitur, you added: “Also, please tell Palin and
McCain that if we have won the war in Iraq, leave. What are you still there for. What kind of a war is a war almost won?” We are still there because we are needed, according to both the american generals and the iraqi leaders, to provide stability. We will withdraw the rest of our troops when the Iraqi and Americans agree that they are ready for us to do so. We are planning for that contingency at the moment. But we must not withdraw precipitously, no matter what Sen. Obama thinks. As McCain says, we will come home but we will come home with victory, not prematurely.
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
What is most scary to me about this is the amount of detail on these reports, with Huff Post even including a map of your address. That’s just nuts considering the ID theft and other abuses that could be done with such information.
Not only would this open you up to loads of junk mail (political and others) but someone could even create a list of donors and start purging voter lists from the opposing party.
Scary stuff.
Posted by: Bud | November 1, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
It’s people like Obama and the commenter on this blog .. Siddat Madimbe.. who scare the crap out of me. He wrote “president of the world?” this is a preview of what Obama wants… To rule the world.
Obama, go find another planet to implement your socialist agenda. Not the United States of America.
Posted by: ml | November 1, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Sarah Palin’s unwed, pregnant teenage daughter is a private family matter. John McCain’s brother, who broke the law by calling 911 to complain about traffic and then cursed the operator, is irrelevant. But Senator Obama’s aunt is FAIR GAME. That’s because when it’s the family of a republican, it should remain private, but a Democrat’s family is fair game.
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Pretend our economy isn’t failin’, vote McCain/Palin!
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Four more years of the same, vote John Mcain!
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Let me explain as clearly as I can: when a Republican lies, it is NOT A LIE. When the reporters don’t report Republican lies as FACT, they are BIASED. When the press calls a Republican’s lie a lie, that VIOLATES the Republican’s first amendment right to free speech. Anyone who disagrees with something a Republican says is a godless, anti-American socialist marxist freedom-hater who should be INVESTIGATED.
Posted by: moderate | November 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
The first amendment guarantees all Republicans the right to lie. Shame on McCain and Bush for timing this leak. Just more gutter politics, I’m sick of it. Obama graciously said Palin’s pregnant daughter is a ‘private family matter.’ If only John McCain had a shread of integrity left….
Posted by: Al | November 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
This story would not made news if the Republican’s were not afraid of losing. This is a desperate attempt to make something out of nothing. Zeituni donated $260 to Obama’s campaign that is less than the cost of the underwear Palin wears that tax payers paid for.
This story is pathetic. However, it makes me more determined to vote for Obama because he has shown in spite of all the stupid crap that narrow minded peole dish out that he can remain repectful, non-judgmental and still handle his business. You go Obama!
Posted by: jb | November 1, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Obama is Unaware his Aunt is here illegally. His pastor is Unaware he is a anti-American Racist. His freind is Unaware he is a TERRORIST, His wife is Unaware she hates America. The list goes on. Obama is a discusting Marxist, and the worst candidate ever in American political history.
Posted by: Clint J | November 1, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
The most liberal member of the Senate will never be able to “find comon ground” with real Americans.
He will tear this country apart, if elected….and with
ACORN and the liberal media’s help, I think he will be.
Posted by: REAL AMERICAN | November 1, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Who cares what his aunt donated or how much?! Some of you people need to get a life!!!
Posted by: Nancy | November 1, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Wouldn’t surprise me at all if McCain’s advisers themselves were behind this timed release. They are throwing everything they can. And isn’t it interesting that the same people who are up in arms about ILLEGAL aliens are the same people who lap up the ILLEGAL release of information like this, with the obvious intent of influencing, thus illicitly, a US presidential election. Reports say that “someone close to the case, who requested anonymity because no one is authorized to talk about it” is informing the press on this matter.
Posted by: frank burns | November 2, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am