Biden’s Florida Rally Disrupted by Protesters
ABC News’ Matt Jaffe reports: Just 48 hours before Election Day, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden’s rally Sunday at Florida State University was disrupted by a raucous group of Republican opponents just outside the event’s gates.
About 30 supporters of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin blared sirens and chanted so loudly that they even got Biden’s attention.
"Maybe those McCain folks can hear this, they’d be interested back there," Biden said over the din of the protesters just a hundred yards away. "They can hear this, I’ll say it loudly as I can. I thought it was a siren, it’s just a whine, I guess. It’s gonna be OK folks."
As he has always done on the stump, Biden then ripped McCain’s economic policies.
"Look, if John actually had had an epiphany, if he had an epiphany, he would have seen the light," Biden continued. "But if he saw the light, he’d have to acknowledge that in fact the economic policies of the last eight years are the cause, the cause of the economic crisis we find ourselves in now."
The protesters chanted "Say it ain’t so, Joe!" "Country first!" and "Obama’s not ready, Joe you said it," referring to Biden’s guarantee at a Seattle fundraiser that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., would be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in office.
The group carried signs reading, "It’s our dough, Joe!" "Obama not ready," "Barack Obama wants your money," "Why so socialist?" "Spread butter not wealth," "Abortion is murder," "Don’t tax me for working hard," "Taxed to death" and "I wrote Joe’s speech."
References to another famous Joe, Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher, were also a prominent feature among the protesters, flashing signs that read, "Regular Joes for McCain," "We are all Joes," and "Both Joes take your money, but only Joe the Plumber fixes things."
One GOP supporter wore a white T-shirt that read, "Hello, my name is Joe the Plumber".
But Biden was unfazed, using the presence of the protesters to preach a message of unity and bipartisanship to his audience of 2000 gathered outside the school’s Doak Campbell Stadium in Tallahassee.
"They’re good folks," Biden said of his noisy opponents. "They’re committed, they’re committed to John’s notions, but we know what they don’t know. We know that we can do this. This is not some hat trick. This is not something beyond our capacity. We have always as Americans risen above our difficult moments. Always."
It was just one of four references Biden made to the Republican crowd disturbing his Sunshine State rally.
"We can’t move past the politics of division unless after this election is over, if God willing we win, we reach out to the very people out in the outer parking lot," Biden noted moments later. "I mean it literally. Not a joke."
"I know you find some of that obnoxious, but the folks… — look folks, we gotta reach out, we gotta end this," demanded the Delaware senator. "Somebody’s got to be big enough to stand up and end this."
Despite his call to bridge the partisan divide, Biden wouldn’t be deterred from his usual digs at the Republican ticket.
"John McCain and Sarah Palin can have Dick Cheney’s endorsement," he said, citing the current vice president’s praise Saturday for the GOP ticket. "We’ll settle for people like Warren Buffett and Colin Powell."
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Exactly the reason I voted against all Republicans this year. So sick of their divisiveness.
Posted by: Chad | November 2, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Republicans do seem pretty full of themselves, don’t they?
Posted by: fivepin | November 2, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
What a shame for our nation that Joe the “wife beating” plumber has become some kind of idol. He beat the crap out of BOTH of his wives! It’s public record!
Joe and Barack will have a tough job healing this nation after all of these smears.
They have the right to protest – that’s our democracy – and NO ONE threatend to beat them up like they do Obama supporters at Palin and McCain rally’s.
for the life of our nation – STOP calling that wife BEATER Samual Joseph Wurzelbacher anything close to HUMAN. He is a filthy pig who should have gone to prison for what he’s done to those women!
Posted by: Independant American Woman | November 2, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!
DON’T GLOAT!!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY POLL THAT MATTERS IS NOV. 4!!!!!!!!!
VOTE!!!!!!!!!
VOTE!!!!!!!!!
VOTE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: This is SO Old | November 2, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
McCain would have been a good
president 50 make it 100 Years ago…
But NOT IN THESE TIMES……
Posted by: Anita Yova | November 2, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
How much does it cost to be civilised?
What is the use of interruption?
Posted by: FM | November 2, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
That is Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher “the wife beater” AKA Joe the plumber!
Posted by: Independant American Woman | November 2, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Those protesters are just angry that McCain will lose. All I have to say is get over it and accept Barack Obama is our next president.
Posted by: Kathy | November 2, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
I used to support Sen. Obama, but Sen. Obama and Sen. Biden are so not only divisive, they’re dismissive. I’m a small-town American, and I value my Second Amendment rights, and I value my faith. Sen. Obama’s theory on that is it’s because I’m bitter that I cling to those things, and he insists I harbor bigotry. I believe in lower taxes and smaller government; I believe that is the better thing for our country, I really do, but Sen. Biden says it’s unpatriotic to not want higher taxes, and Sen. Obama says it’s selfish to want lower taxes. I don’t feel reached out to when Sen. Obama stands behind his homemade Seal of the “President” on his lectern and say, “If you’re for lower taxes, you’re selfish,” and “If you’re for lower taxes, you’re unpatriotic.” I respect their ticket for believing what they believe, and I believe they think tax-and-spend liberalism is good for the country, but I respectfully disagree, and I don’t want my patriotism attacked for that.
Posted by: Obamacrat for McCain | November 2, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
It will be nice to once again be called, United States, this country has been divided for too long…
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Don’t stray from the scripted word Sen. Biden you may say something thats actually true.
Betcha he got red in the face and screamed, plus wanting to strangle the person that let the McCain/Palin supporters in.
Vote, Vote, Vote
Posted by: usafirst | November 2, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
DIEBOLD will decide THIS election, your voice DOESN’T matter and it never did!!!
Posted by: hmn | November 2, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
I can lead a republican to water, but you can’t make him “Think”.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | November 2, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
At a recent rally John McCain called Joe the Plumber “a great American hero” and a “role model”. Let’s see–a guy who only works part time–a guy who is a plumber and can’t even bother to get licensed–a guy who doesn’t pay his taxes, a guy who B.S.es about buying a business he could never afford–Yeah–that’s a great American Hero and role model.
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Wow,
Every McCain speech is disrupted by Code Pink.
Code Pink has distrupted McCain speeches as many as four times during a speech.
Code Pink tried to rush the stage at the RNC when McCain was speaking.
Code Pink founder is an Obama bundler raising money for Obama.
Obama has met with Code Pink.
Amazing that the MSM doesn’t report Code Pink who are Obama fundraisers protesting McCain.
This is a clear example of media bias.
I have never seen such bias in my life.
You can’t have a healthy democracy with such bias.
Posted by: Ben | November 2, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Obamacrat – No Halloween candy for you. Hypocrite.
Posted by: fivepin | November 2, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Only the ill-informed and ignorant support McCain. If you want to find out a person’s IQ, without actually having them take a test, just ask them whom the support in this election.
Posted by: Nik | November 2, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
exactly why I am voting For McCain/Palin !!!!!!!!! Because I am sick of anytime anything is said about the Obama ticket …there answers are all the same “I didn’t know” or they are being racist . I for one know race has nothing to do with my decision .My decision is based on what I want for our country so I took the time to look up all matters thus came to the decision McCain is best for America. I don’t want someone as president that claims racism that is not the dream of Martin Luther King …He wanted us all equal the only way we can all be equal is if we stap playing the race card.Nor do I want a president that when the media asks a question they don’t like they cut off all future interviews .The President works for us we as Americans have a right to know whats going on.Nor do I want a President who will when asked of his shady characters in his past will say I didn’t know.
Posted by: Tammy | November 2, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
McCain has had dozens of speeches interupted by Code Pink.
McCain is protested by Obama supporting Code Pink all the time.
Yet the media doesn’t report that on their blog each time it happens.
This nation has been hijacked by the media.
I can’t remember one Obama speech being interupted by McCain supporters and yet McCain has had dozens of speeches interupted by Obama supporters.
Worst covered election ever not even close.
Posted by: Ben | November 2, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Republicans think they are the only “good” Americans, thank God they’re only 29% of the voters.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | November 2, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Geez! I didn’t even know our “great American hero” was also a wife beater–very interesting.
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Republican is the other name for “American Taliban”.
Posted by: JR | November 2, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Had it not been for existence of Democrats and Independents, America would have been a Christian fundamentalist theocratic country.
Posted by: Sara | November 2, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Hmmm..their(GOP) behavior sounds like their rally’s and the posts on these boards.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
In case you haven’t noticed Goldman Sachs runs America. I don’t care who you vote for.
Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 2, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Poor Poor republicans if they only understood Mccain is not the one
Posted by: TRUE AMERICAN FOR OBAMA/BIDEN | November 2, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
more reasons to vote for McCain
let me ask why go after an everyday person who Obama answered a question the wrong way ?????????? We should nopt be afraid to ask questions of our leaders for fear of retalliation .
Posted by: tammy | November 2, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
That is how Republicans act and I am sick and tired of their tactics and policies that has gotten this country in the mess we are in at home and overseas. I voted for change and Obama. Go Barack Obama!
Posted by: Susan from Tampa Fl | November 2, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
teacher and independent american women,
GOD,your so smaaaaart it hurts.
Jr,
did you hear about Sen. Obamas civilian army????? Maybe you should sign up for it.
Posted by: usafirst | November 2, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
If that was a real plumber protesting, I wonder if he’s ever worked on a government-subsidized job or on a public building. That’s WELFARE!
Posted by: rob | November 2, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
more reasons to vote for McCain
let me ask why go after an everyday person who Obama answered a question the wrong way ?????????? We should nopt be afraid to ask questions of our leaders for fear of retalliation .
Posted by: tammy | Nov 2, 2008 3:34:17 PM
Joe the plumber is a fraud plain and simple. Obama was truthful and through the right wing smear sites they have lead you to believe he is a socialist. I guess they left the part out where he says he want us to succeed.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
You mean the same Democratic party that didn’t want see the abolition of slavery in the south which started the Civil War. They found a kinder way of enslaving the populice now allowing us to be paid for our labor and only taking 30%.
Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 2, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Wowoowoww…..considering the fact that this is probably the first protest Republican proponents issued, they are sort of late. I think that these protestors were still hungover from the night before, considering that they are probably college students that have evertyhing paid for by mommy and daddy, and confused about whats really going on in America. Don’t be brainwashed by all of the politics, Obama and Biden will heal the great country that Bush ran to turmoil!! Vote Obama/Biden!!
Posted by: SJ | November 2, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
no respect for the real sarah p who was not there. No respect for his wife that selles gold & lingerie remarks. No respect for womwen. No respect ofr te nation in crisis. I have no respect for McCain.
Posted by: ab | November 2, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Someone is going to have to explain to me how Republicans get away with saying “Country first” while they are telling the other half to go to Hell.
Sadly, the most pathetic truth behind her demonization is revealed when someone might propose that every Democrat suddenly stayed home the day after McCain won. Then, those same Republicans who said the Democrats were worthless, dangerous, and treasonous would be demanding we all get back to work.
Sarah Palin and her “us and them” campaign has unleased a beast that we thought had been slain when Joe McCarthy failed to segregeate “them” from “us” fifty years ago, and the ugly after effects are going to last long after election day.
Country first, but who’s country is it, Sarah? Yours, mine, or ours?
Posted by: Holden Caulfield | November 2, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Look at the issues. Say Joe is real, that he honestly wants to buy a business.
Ok. He would get MORE of a tax break under Obama than under McCain, unless he made over $250,000 in profit. If I made that, I wouldn’t complain about a few more tax dollars–I’d have plenty to feed my family.
But he’d have to pay a LOT more for health care under McCain than under Obama.
And then he and his kids and his grandkids would be dying in Iraq–where McCain wants to be for the next 100 years.
Vote for Obama–the only way to get real change!
Posted by: Deena Larsen | November 2, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Deena and Holden,
Both excellent posts.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
usafirst,
Yes, I am smart–that is why I have already voted for Obama. You, on the other hand, are really showing your ignorance.
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
I’m very skeptical that Obama-Biden can pull off a win in Florida. Too much of an uphill battle with GOP control of the state.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | November 2, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
why so serious? it’s just an election. Wait for the real thing. the real obanation will speak for itself. we are lost with Obama.
Posted by: eco delsol | November 2, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
I’m very skeptical that Obama-Biden can pull off a win in Florida. Too much of an uphill battle with GOP control of the state.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | Nov 2, 2008 3:50:38 PM
We all know that will be bought and paid for by Jeb Bush and his brother.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Joe the plumber is a fraud plain and simple. Obama was truthful and through the right wing smear sites they have lead you to believe he is a socialist. I guess they left the part out where he says he want us to succeed.
Posted by: Jwench | Nov 2, 2008 3:40:21 PM
Why would you say he is a fraud ???? Because all he did was ask a question in which Obama gave an answer .Then because the answer hurt obamas plan he was trashed private records were gone through by who democrats …….Is that what we want ?????????
Posted by: tammy | November 2, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
The republicans are pulling out all the stops////
Posted by: NH voter | November 2, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Obama is an empty vessel that made the most noise this election and empty vessel don’t get too far.
the Media has created this frankentein so blinded by their liberal fantasies.
SO when it really matters the American people has to put these fantasies to rest on Nov 4th.
McCain/ Palin 08
Posted by: vic | November 2, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
tammy
I think some people say Joe the Plumber is a fraud because it is now obvious that he had no intention or means of buying a $250,000 plumbing business.
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
When this is over and, with God’s blessing, Obama is elected, we need to come back together as a nation.
McCain is going to have to lead in that effort – we’ll, we can hope he would take responsibility to lead in that effort. The right wing has gotten their followers so terrified and whipped up that they really cannot hear a word anyone else tries to say. At this point, the rest of us have signed a pact with Satan.
Thankfully, I believe Obama is the leader of our times – who can help us find a way back together and forward.
The best way to help do this is not to yell back, but treat these people with great affection. They are basically good people. Their leadership, especially from the NRA and other groups, is power-hungry at best. But, with love and affection, they will come back to the table.
Hugs to all. God Bless America,
Oh, I won’t have time for cookies today, so come over tomorrow.
Love, Mom
Posted by: mom | November 2, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
teacher,
good for you, hope you have a good job and won’t be layed of come January 2009. Reality will set in fast then tell me about ignorance.
Posted by: usafirst | November 2, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Only two days away from Socialism. (Maybe) Hard to believe how many sutpid lazy poeple are in this country. I for one will no longer be a proud American if that Dumbo eared Muslim illegal alien take over. I prdict a major uprising within a few years. How dare suggest to spread the wealth. People are entitled to keep what they earn. To all you stupid liberals, get off your asses and get a job and stop expecting handouts
Posted by: Mike Foley | November 2, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Soon the Lipsticked pigs, the Joe the plumbers, McCain and Palin lies and the era of Republican corruption will be ended. The Republican campaign is really sickening and nauseating. I think I will puke if I see Palin spout another lie. Good bye to all Republicans.
OBAMA-BIDEN 2008 YES WE CAN. ALL THE WAY BABY!!!
Posted by: ProudLiberal | November 2, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
usafirst
Thanks for your concern–I have a very good job and know with Obama as president I will not have to worry.
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
When Obama has voted in the Senate, he has voted with the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has given you the Bank Bailout Bill against your wishes, which has turned into a bank enrichment bill. The Democratic Party has been trying to attach amnesty for illegal aliens to Iraq war funding. While your soldiers are in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for their country, the Democratic Congress and Senate have been trying to give the country away. You are against this. The Democratic Congress and Senate have tossed renewable tax credits back and forth until the once booming wind and solar industries have flattened out. The large number of times that Obama hasn’t voted have been like watching a crime take place with a cell phone in your hands and not even dialing 911. Obama is cute and young, but do you really know the guy?
http://ewebsmith.com/Finance/notlistening.html
Posted by: Web Smith | November 2, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
No, Tammy, you’re not racist – you protest juuuuust a little too much…good try though.
Posted by: v81 | November 2, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Did these protestors assault senior citizens on a bus? Did they throw, and, or topple public property? Did they run around like hooligans, destroying anything in their path, like the protestors at the RNC?
No?
Nuff said!
What good policies of Obama’s? His plan to bankrupt coal companies, and heaving on crap to engergy companies, whereby they pass the cost on to us? Think of your highest energy bill this year, and next year , it will be tripled.
His lowering threshold of rich, being $75,000 now?
Pelosi, and Reids, big plan to put the ban on drilling.
Barney Franks touting that tax hikes will be coming.
Oh yeah! Utopia. I can hardly wait!
Posted by: Jeanie | November 2, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
And just who kept America Safe since 9/11/2001? My math says 7 years and not through failure. Many unrecognized Americans have done it through hard work. Our costs for inaction would be far greater than our financial situation today. We still have freedom, something we spoiled Americans now consider “our rights.”
Want to bring the fight here on our soil, cities and our streets running in front of your home? I don’t. Time for gratitude, and less greed.
Pay attention, I believe Joe Biden’s warning was well thought out and not a political slip.
That threat can happen here folks! I am taking his advice, and I am not willing to chance giving up what our forefathers died for, by a person who’s great spiritual leader damned America in front of God and the entire world.
It’s not about what I personally think. My concern is what message did that send around the world.
Posted by: Dell | November 2, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Undoubtedly the protesters reflected the opinions of many McCain supporters, although less respectfully than most. However, the closeness of the Florida contest reflects a significant number of Republican defections to Obama in what is traditionally a Republican state. To some extent, the Republican endorsers of Obama are troubled by McCain’s poorer grasp of economic issues, but more are alarmed by the prospect of a Palin presidency, in a dangerous and complicated world they judge her unqualified to face.
At this point, Obama may have a slight lead. If Palin were not on the ticket, I expect McCain would be ahead because of the prevailing Republican philosophy embraced by many Florida voters.
Posted by: Fred Moolten | November 2, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
teacher
you must be working for the government, because thats the only thing that will be growing in an Obama/Biden era.
Posted by: usafirst | November 2, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
I CAN’T GET THESE TIRE MARKS OFF’N ME, FROM WHEN THAT DAMN BUCKY THREW ME UNDER THE BUS!
Posted by: GRANNY TOOT | November 2, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Posted by: tammy | Nov 2, 2008 3:55:00 PM
Why do you people lie? The democrats did not go through his records. The one woman did it on her own and the other one, who was in no way shape or form part of Obamas campaign was the other. She contributed money to him. How does that make the democrats guilty of anything?
This guy is going to by a business makng $40,000 a year…yeah right. I am too because I make a bit over that.
He isn’t a licensed plumber.I could go on but he isn’t worth the time. Go ahead and idolize this idiot. You deserve him , McCain and Palin.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
No, Tammy, you’re not racist – you protest juuuuust a little too much…good try though.
Why are you voting for people who are racist? Or have’t you been listening to the “code words” and the language inciting hatred and the mailers and the robocalls – all inciting hatred, prejudice against Aeabs, Muslims, blacks, attacking patriotism (!) ….all these stereotypes – the vast majority of the country and the world Tammy, sees this but you try to make the case you are not racist – well, like my mother used to say if you say nothing and don’t take a stand against something you are as guilty as the ones who commit the act. Maybe think about what kind of tone you want in this country, ths world – our collective future? Actually try not to be so dogmatic and brainwashed that you cannot consider something close to having an open mind.
Posted by: v81 | November 2, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TUESDAY, AS SOON AS CONGRESS RECONVENE, THE FIRST THING THEY NEED TO DO IS THROW LIBERMAN OUT OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, HE IS A TURNCOAT, THAT PLOTS AGAINST REFORM.
Posted by: EYESURGERY | November 2, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
tammy
I think some people say Joe the Plumber is a fraud because it is now obvious that he had no intention or means of buying a $250,000 plumbing business.
I can see your point .However the answer was still the same “spread the wealth” That concerns me . I am not being selfish but I don’t want to pay more max deductions were taken out of mine and my husbands paychecks yet we still had to pay 3300. more to IRS .We are not rich by no means 170,000 was grossed but why should anyone pay more to give to people who don’t pay and Obama says 95 % will see tax cuts but 40% don’t even pay taxes so they will tax more to those that do and those that don’t will get checks .Thats what I have a problem with why cant they work for their money I did when I went to work starting out I was only making 25,000 but I worked hard to earn what I do now .
Posted by: Tammy | November 2, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Testing. The post by me has not appeared but one posted by Dell at 4:07:14 did. It was not my post.
Posted by: Dell | November 2, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Very becoming and mature of the McCain supporters wouldn’t you say?
Oh, that’s right they learned this behavior from Sarah herself…
Posted by: Julie | November 2, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
After 9/11 Bush said it was patriotic to go shopping. He asked for no Americans to sacrifice but the military families. Then he refused to allow the American people to see the bodies coming home in flag-draped coffins.
He paid for his war on credit. Then you Republicans Swiftboated John Kerry, someone who actually put his butt out there in the line of fire, and re-elected Bush!! Whether the “election” was “finessed” is another matter.
I think that your judgement is HIGHLY SUSPECT! You keep doing the same thing over and expecting different results!
Now you raise hell because the wealthiest people, who got the gravy tax cuts for the last 8 years might have to pay their way.
Warren Buffett took a survey of his office personel and was shocked to find that while he paid 17.7% in taxes on his income and payroll taxes, his office help payed an average of 32.9% income taxes!!
Buffett said, “I have no tax planning, I don’t have an accountant, I don’t have tax shelters. I just follow what the US congress tells me to do.”
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 2, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
EYESURGERY
Watch if the Democrats win watch little Liberman suck up to the dems and start bashing the repubs watch!
Posted by: TRUE AMERICAN FOR OBAMA/BIDEN | November 2, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Don’t be stupid; this is not about race; it is about socialism vs democracy. Obama’s mentor was Frank Marshall Davis, a card-carrying communist subservient to the Soviet Union. Obama wrote about their visits in Hawaii and that Davis was full of hard earned knowledge and ADVICE, advice that Obama has in his brain now. Communist ideas, socialist views: take the money and assets and distribute it. Socialists and communist also take your businesses, homes, jobs and tell you to go work with your hands in the fields. We’re not there yet, but………
Posted by: Julius McFarland | November 2, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Hate to tell you folks, but my test was sucessful. It went through. Refresh and then read what you posted. First time ever that has happened on the internet. My name, but not my post.
Doesn’t that make you wonder about what we have been feed?
Posted by: Dell | November 2, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Poor losers going nuclear, isn’t it sad? I hope their heads explode like in a science fiction movie.
Posted by: Greg | November 2, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
It is downright scary that the Democratic Congress want to pass a bill prohibiting “talk radio”. They want to shut the conservative talk hosts up. What is it about “freedom of speech” don’t they understand? This is communism at its best: get his of anyone who opposes you. That is getting rid of democracy, people, don’t you understand? I don’t care if you are Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Libertarians, or whatever, this is very, very harmful to our nation.
Posted by: Jackie Swenson | November 2, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
I can’t believe you morons are worried about Obama and socialism. What do you think that Trillion Dollar bailout was? Wake up and smell the reality. If a Republican is warning you about his opponent doing something, it’s because they have already done it. The spending that went on over the last eight years has never before been anywhere close. Are you in a coma?
Posted by: Greg | November 2, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Yep, Obama will win. Now all the poor won’t have to worry about making mortgage payments or paying for gas. Or the woman in his ad who won’t have to worry about buying milk as long as she can pay for acrylic nails.
Posted by: carol | November 2, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
tammy,
You sound like a reasonable person, but you are listening too hard to the Republican spin machine. At your income you will not get a tax increase and might get a tax deduction. If you have not voted yet, please check this out before you vote. There are many good sources on line that will tell you exactly where you would stand with Obama’s plan.
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Any company that makes $250,000 AFTER salaries and other overhead expenses can certainly pay the pittance that Obama’s tax plan specifies. Check it out at http://www.taxpolicycenter.org. The average “Joe” will see a significant tax cut, however, you multi-millionaires out there better be prepared to pay what you used to pay under Bill Clinton. The rest of you ought to quit whining about “socialism”…what do you call the banking bailout? Is that capitalism in your book?
Posted by: madisonhack | November 2, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
What both sides are proposing on taxes is a MYTH and it will change after the election. The tax base is contracting at the federal, state, and local levels.
The idea that we won’t raise taxes, or that those making 250K and above will make up for the shortfall is a MYTH. Jobs that have gone to China and India aren’t coming back. The American auto industry is on the verge of possible bankruptcy along with other institutions. Social security and medicare have trillion’s of unfunded liabilities along with other goverment programs. Sorry political promise’s on taxation are one thing reality is another. What you will see in 2009 is higher taxes at all levels of income.
Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 2, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Hey Jackie, what comic books are you reading? Are you that gullable? The lies never end, do they?
Posted by: Greg | November 2, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Abraham Lincoln must be rolling in his grave to see what’s become of his party.
Posted by: Former Republican | November 2, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
I predict McCain will win the election due to safe guards put in place
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Well, well, after Obama did the nasty tricks to Hillary’s campaign, which got zero coverage, now a few protestors at the Biden rally are covered by the news. At least the protestors spoke the truth!
Posted by: Traci | November 2, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Warren Buffet, the billionaire, thinks it is a disgrace that he pays 17.7 % in taxes, while his receptionist pays 30%. Obama’s “Socialism” is that he wants to make the wealthy pay their fair share and reduce the unfair burden on the middle class. He will raise taxes on the wealthy to what they were under Clinton, and lower taxes on the middle class to the percentage they were under Richard Nixon. That is what fanatics like James Dobson are describing as “the end of American life as we have known it.”
Posted by: Gary | November 2, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I am so sick of Republicans, absolutely no class all the time.
Posted by: Peter Jackson | November 2, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
People ought to realize that several of the anti-Obama posters on this thread are the same person using different screen names, and that he is sometimes known as “David”. He sits in his living room and blogs against Senator Obama “every two minutes.” He actually acknowleged doing so on another thread yesterday. I suspect he is less a McCain supporter and more likely a lonely little guy who does this to get people to talk to him.
Posted by: Ron in Nebraska | November 2, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Joe Biden is such a hateful looking scoundrel at his events. Watch his snarl and listen to his vile hatred as he first calls McCain his long time friend and then launches into his vicious attack. What a bad joke the Democrats have begun to be.
Posted by: Bill | November 2, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
These same people hold just as much responsibility for Wall Street and Bush running wild the last 8 years as Wall Street. The nerve to be claiming to be JOE the so-call PLUMBER. This world we live in is screwed up, the very thought of the Vice President is no more than a beauty contestant, it exemplifies what we have fallen to among other world powers. Listen to that useless Palin last night enjoying a phone conversation with obviously idiots and she didn’t detect anything living in the small time world she lives, instead of having an idea she wanted to be important enough to think a HEAD OF STATE would be stooping so LOW to call her before she had actually won something of IMPORTANCE.
Posted by: EYESURGERY | November 2, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Mom states “At this point, the rest of us have signed a pact with Satan.”
Hope you will see the light and vote McCain, many of us are praying for you and the unborn.
Posted by: Sted | November 2, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
usafirst
I am a teacher and I will be retiring at the end of this year–I am extemely glad that my Social Security was not privatize by President Bush.
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I could never vote for a republican right now…..Actually republicans have become an embarassment….Seriously do people actually admit they are republicans? They don’t where I live, they are too embarassed by the republican party, it’s pathetic
Posted by: ann | November 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
If the people who said McCain = Bush/Chiney, they also have to say Obama=Rev. Wright (remember, we have to be fair).
Posted by: zoe | November 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
48 hrs no body changing there mind and the republicans has pulled off the most filthiest campaign and still can’t win. We are a day smater see thereBased on the responses the McCain-Palin ticket is generating it appears there are 2 kinds of Republicans. The small number of filthy rich who are the manipulators, and the large number of the “joe-6-packs” the media identifies as the “uneducated, low-income, white, old, conservatives.” McCain gets the support from the rich in return for more tax breaks, and he gets the support from the morons by invoking the emotionally provocative but logically meaningless slogans such as “we must win”; they can’t even define what constitutes “winning.”
Posted by: mary derricotte | November 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
MCCAIN CANNOT KEEP US SAFE, HE IS TO ERRATIC, HE BELIEVES IN WAR, WAR, NO COMPRISE, NO TALK, WAR TAKES TO MUCH OF OUR MONEY
MCCAIN HAVE NO EXPERIENCE AS PRESIDENT ACCORDING TO BUSH HE HAVE NO BRAIN,
THAT’S WHY HE VOTED WITH BUSH 96% OF THE TIME.
MCCAIN IS HATEFUL, HE MAKE ME THINK HE IS NOT A AMERICAN, HE OPPOSED EVERYTHING
THE REPUBLICANS DROVE THE SPEEDING LIMO
INTO THE FINANICAL CRISES WE ARE IN
MCCAIN HAVE NO CLUE ON THE ECONOMIC, HE
STILL SAYS IT’S SOUND AND STRONG.
MCCAIN JUST DON’T GET IT, BECAUSE HE IS
A TRILLION DOLLAR MAN, HE HAVE UNCERTAIN HAND, NO CHANGE FOR US AMERICAN
Posted by: mkcap10 | November 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I vote we Nuke N. Africa. In fact all of Africa except South Africa. The only thing that comes from that part of the world is Aids, corruption and genecide
Obama needs to take his silly ass back to Africa where he came from, the guy is such a Bozo
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
predict McCain will win the election due to safe guards put in place
Posted by: Joe isn’t home | Nov 2, 2008 4:25:41 PM
Do you mean Rove, Cheyney, GWB ? Yeah he will win if they steal it again.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
EYESURGERY
Watch if the Democrats win watch little Liberman suck up to the dems and start bashing the repubs watch!
Posted by: TRUE AMERICAN FOR OBAMA/BIDEN
****************************
Wonder if he cashed in the 30 pieces of gold
at the pawn shop.
Posted by: spacerook1 | November 2, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
This is the same Joe Biden who once said “I’ll be honored to serve for/with John McCain” and this is the same Joe Biden who has said “Obama is not ready to lead” during primiries. What made him changed suddenly? Deep, deep down of Joe Biden’s heart, he’s convinced that McCain will be a better leader.
Posted by: Jim | November 2, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
If the people who said McCain = Bush/Chiney, they also have to say Obama=Rev. Wright (remember, we have to be fair).
Posted by: zoe | Nov 2, 2008 4:31:26 PM
GOP logic at it’s finest…lol. You people are getting more pathetic the closer it gets to election day.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Note to MSM: No way i’ll watch NBC/ABC/CBS/MSNBC ever again. I’ll download any program I want off the internet. That way I can avoid all the Commercials and Sponsors. There is more than one way to play the game of Main Stream Media Politics. This is my way. muahahahahahaha (sinister laugh)
Posted by: eco delsol | November 2, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Joe the Plummer just hired a agent to and will pay him 15% of his earnings on a career he does not and will not have. These guys really live in a fantasy world.
Posted by: JoeTheCelibrity | November 2, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
all the ayers robocalls and hollering “socialist” at rallies won’t mean a damn thing to anyone without health insurance, a 401k that’s been halved, or a mortgage that’s now worth more than their house.
but i do appreciate the presence of the richest folks in america posting apologist rants against letting bush’s tax plan expire and going back to what they were paying under clinton. how come no one whined about it being socialism back then?
and we’re still redistrubuting billions in american taxpayer money to iraq each month, thanks to bush and mccain.
Posted by: cha cha cha | November 2, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
predict McCain will win the election due to safe guards put in place
Posted by: Joe isn’t home | Nov 2, 2008 4:25:41 PM
Do you mean Rove, Cheyney, GWB ? Yeah he will win if they steal it again.
Cheney is probably trying to snuggle up to Associate Justice Antonin Scalia about this time. Sounds like
hunting season!
Posted by: spacerook1 | November 2, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
I still can’t figure out what Joe the Plumber is supposed to represent. It’s the emptiest talking point Ive ever heard.
The guy is a liar who tried to trip Obama up with a bunch of lies and got busted. How does that make sense as a talking point?
Posted by: bubba | November 2, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Obama sat under “Pastor” Wrong for 20 years while he spewed hate for America , Whites and, Jews! I can’t believe that people are trying to put this polished Black panther in the white House.I can say I will no longer be proud to be an American.
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
It doesn’t matter what we think and what we say here if we do not go out and make our opinions count. Go out and VOTE everybody. It is your obligation to your country. VOTE!
Posted by: AlomaGirl | November 2, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
bubba
I’m with you on Joe the plumber–I just don’t get it. In reality, I believe McCain would have nothing to do with the guy. How can he call him an American Hero?
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
HALLOWEEN CANDY, THAT’S OK THEY REALLY DID NOT NEED ANY
JUST, MAYBE THE CANDY WILL MAKE THE MCCAIN TRICK OR TREAT SICK
I CAN TELL YOUR IQ IS 30, GOOD MY CHILD DID NOT GO TO YOUR CRIB
Posted by: mkcap10 | November 2, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Obama peeps can keep their Agitation Propaganda. (AGIT-PROP) Look it up. You’ve been had. :-)
eco
Posted by: eco delsol | November 2, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
“Obamacrat (sic) for McCain”
We’re attacking YOUR patriotism because you are a lying sack of — well, you know WHAT!
You’re no more a “former Obama Supporter” than is Cindy McSame!
I love the nerve of you Repugnants!!! Easy to hide behind anonymity here!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: jackt51 | November 2, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
When will people learn not to spread rumors or hearsay about candidates and other fanatics. It lowers the values of both candidates.
Posted by: James | November 2, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Your Obama will make all your wishes come true on Tuesday…just rub your lamp and wait for the magic carpet ride to begin. Praise Allah and Obama . You folks r in for a rude awakening.
Posted by: junglejim123 | November 2, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I can´t for the life of me understand how people can prefer a man who voted with Bush´s policies 90% of the time (i.e. McCain) over Obama. Bush´s policies have been nothing short of tragic for this country. He´s alienated our allies, dug the country into massive debt, ignored the environment, rejected the science of global warming, and lied (yes, lied) about the WMDs in Iraq (remember, his administration said it “knew” where they were). And McCain´s first big decision as potential commander in chief is to pick Sarah Palin as his VP? Sarah Palin is an intellectual midget. People complain that Obama will raise taxes on the wealthy to even less than Ronald Reagan taxation levels and cry “socialism! Socialism!”. Well, then cry out about the $10BILLION per month going down the Iraq drain. That´s your money too. I so look forward to the day Obama gets sworn in as President. He´s going to be a great one.
Posted by: George | November 2, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Let’s all extend a warm welcome to “Joe isn’t home,” the newest addition to the list of racists that post on abcnews.com.
Posted by: Jason | November 2, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
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Note to MSM: No way i’ll watch NBC/ABC/CBS/MSNBC ever again.
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Posted by: eco delsol | Nov 2, 2008 4:36:55 PM
Oh boy, that will show them!! I bet they are shaking in their boots begging you to say it ain’t so!
Posted by: MSM | November 2, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
America was founded by Christian Patriots. Obama the Bozo is about the furthest thing away from a Patriot. An African Muslim here illegally
Vote “No Bozos” on Tuesday
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Jim, John McCain has become so unrecognizable that even members of his own party are starting to doubt him. I mean I’m an independent and before I found out he had recently voted 90% of the time with Bush, and before he showed his true colors by taking the low road he swore he’d never take- I decided the man who seemed to have a fresh look on things was really a con man. I’m sure Joe Biden will say the same. It’s only ocasionally we see the older John McCain like when he stopped that woman at one of his rallies who called Barack Obama an Arab. -But, clearly he’s not that way all the time. He’s being used, but he is so desperate to win he’ll let even the lowest members of his base run rogue- like his running mate Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
to those of you who find the MSM so repugnant–I’d like to know why you keep posting on ABCnews.com. Why not just stick with FOX where they will tell you what you want to hear?
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
It appears more than 95% of the NEW voters are voting for Obama/Biden. They are frustrated by the destruction of the future of our country and the indiscriminate killing of innocent peoples for their own agenda by the Republican neo-conservative group, including John McCain. Voting them out is the best treatment to relief the stress and agony from the suffering under their misrule. So, do not forget to vote on Nov 4 in your designated polling precinct. It is the most important decision of your life, your children, our country, and the world.
Posted by: Sutter197 | November 2, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Republicans – you really are insulating
Comment 1 – Obamacrat for McCain = where do you and the rest of the RNC Bots get these wacko ideas? Have you no concept of 3 branches of government?
Comment 2 – Consider the Republican theme “Country First” – it’s insulting
Reviewing the last 8 years,
The 40% growth in government
The 4100 dead American military
The Trillion in useless spending on Iraq (yes every penny pissed away in a Republican War based on lies and more lies)
Constitution on hold – Founding Fathers insulted by that one!
The conduct of this campaign by the Country First candidate
If there were any honor in the Republican Party they would have conceded a failed platform months ago – as it is they hang on to die on Tuesday – may they stay beaten until they understand that spending American lives in a useless war, spending our treasury and forfeiting our children and their heritage for selfish reasons – for lie to the American People and the World -
Posted by: InsultedByRNC | November 2, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
This is the same Joe Biden who once said “I’ll be honored to serve for/with John McCain” and this is the same Joe Biden who has said “Obama is not ready to lead” during primiries. What made him changed suddenly? Deep, deep down of Joe Biden’s heart, he’s convinced that McCain will be a better leader.
Posted by: Jim
******************************
Hey Jim, You have a selective memory. You
tend to forget what Romney, Huckabee, and
Paul said about McCain during the
Republican Primaries. It definitely wasn’t hugs
and kisses. In fact the comments cost Romney
the VP choice, because McCain always has a
grudge against someone who disagrees with him.
Maybe Romney was trying to teach McCain
economics 101. Hey, Hey
Posted by: spacerook1 | November 2, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
If the Bafoon Obama is elected it will only be a matter of time before the country is governed by Marxis ideology. Welcome to the new third world america
Vote “No Bozos” on Tuesday
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Joe isn’t home
You are too pathetic for words.
Posted by: teacher | November 2, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
To all my Christian brothers and sisters , don’t worry Obama can not stop us ! He underestimates the power of God’s people, we will grow stronger under the rule of evil it takes this sometimes to bring us out of our slumber.Focus on local issues you can change for the next four years and be productive.God is with us, NO FEAR!
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
With a contracting tax base raising taxes on on those making 250K and up will be a start but that won’t balance the budget or fund new programs. You are already being warmed up by the 150K and 120K comments. After the election whoever the president is he will raise taxes at all income levels. When you raise taxes on businesses they pass in on in the cost of their product or service. So we are all going pay regardless.
Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 2, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
For those of you who still think the media coverage has been so pro-Obama: For most of this campaign, Sarah Palin has spent almost all of her time spewing her misleading, mischaracterizing or outright lying attacks against Obama, while saying almost NOTHING about why anyone should vote for her party. Yet somehow, every day there were endless stories and accounts of her saying those same tired smears, over and over again. Meanwhile, you would be hard-pressed to have found any mention of Biden anywhere! How many times did every American have to hear her smarmy “palling around with terrorists” line? All that “news” coverage did was to give help to the McCain party, especially since it was of no news value whatsoever. The way I have seen the coverage of this election is Palin/McCain, with nothing of substance to say about themselves, just repeated the same, sorry baseless attacks (socialist, terrorist, etc.), which the media then aired and printed over and over again. Yet when Palin is found guilty of violating Alaska ethics laws, she says she was found not guilty and the story ended right there. McCain’s links to whack jobs, Kalidi, Keating Five, etc, which were at least as valid as talking points, were hardly heard about. A fair media would have plunged in after the ethics violation and reported all her other lapses in ethics, then kept those stories alive. Yes, voters have a right to know those things about her.
Posted by: useyourbrainspeople | November 2, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
“God bless America, land that I love, stand beside Her and guide Her through the night with a light from above
From the mountains, to the prairies, to the ocean, white with foam,
God bless America, my home,sweet home.”
I love my country and i’m not sure if and when we lost it, but if there is any chance of saving it, I think John McCain will wrap his arms around it and put his life on the line to protect it. (as he has done before)! I totally believe he only wants to pay back a country that has done so much for him, a country that he too loves.I trust him completely. I don’t feel that Obama could possibly have that same sentiment or commitment. JMO
Posted by: jg | November 2, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Let’s all extend a warm welcome to “Joe isn’t home,” the newest addition to the list of racists that post on abcnews.com.
Posted by: Jason
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Jason, Looks like he left something else home
Posted by: spacerook1 | November 2, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
These vile cretins will be the first ones in line for Obama’s tax cut money. I have a new plan if they don’t think getting money back is that important then don’t accept it. Give it to someone who wants it and needs it. These destitute morons can continue to cheerlead for even more tax cuts for the rich
Posted by: pmb | November 2, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
I see it being very difficult for young men and women to enlist in the Armed services if Bozo Obama takes office. Part of the oath of enlistment is to protect the President. I don’t think there are a lot of soldiers serving in Iraq that appreciate the Bozo Obama wanting to surrender. I think Obama should go to Iraq and spend a few nights out with the troops on patrol to understand how much he is appriciated
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Hey Jim, You have a selective memory. You tend to forget what Romney, Huckabee, and Paul said about McCain during the Republican Primaries. It definitely wasn’t hugsand kisses. In fact the comments cost Romney
the VP choice, because McCain always has a grudge against someone who disagrees with him. Maybe Romney was trying to teach McCain
economics 101. Hey, Hey
Posted by: spacerook1
————————————–
At least, Romney, Huckabee, and Paul “DID NOT SAY” ..”I’ll be honored to serve with/for Obama” in the primiries. That was a good thing…and none of them have ever said “McCain is not ready to lead”. That was another good thing about them. (period)
Posted by: spacerlook1 | November 2, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
correction for Post by: Joe isn’t home | Nov 2, 2008 4:47:40 PM
False: “America was founded by Christian Patriots.”
True: “America was stolen from the native American people.”
Posted by: Sutter197 | November 2, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Hippie Smasher: “When you raise taxes on businesses they pass in on in the cost of their product or service.”
Not correct. When you raise sales taxes or volume taxes, those get passed on to consumers. When you raise income or profit taxes, companies shield profits by investing back in the company.
They’ll actually hire more workforce among other activities to keep their profits lower and taxes manageable.
When did Republicans get so business dumb?
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
>>>>correction for Post by: Joe isn’t home | Nov 2, 2008 4:47:40 PM
False: “America was founded by Christian Patriots.”
True: “America was stolen from the native American people.”<<<
True: America was founded by "Civilized" Christian Patriots. Not a bunch of Savages
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Ah, I am once again delighted to see the illiterate, red-neck bigots come out in force to support the greedy old party. As I’m sure the thinking people have noticed, you can immediately tell the morons by their use of lots of caps, and an almost third grade spelling level. I can only say thank you again to all the idiots for making the case against your party all by yourselves; Slimy, bigoted hypocrites who traded education and enlightenment for lies and blind zealotry masquerading as faith and patriotism. The stupidest portion of our nation has made us a laughingstock around THE WORLD, and the rest of us who actually finished elementary school and didn’t go to Oral Roberts University are left to rebuild our nation as it once was, a place where you were free to worship as you chose without being told what to believe…………… Atenshun republicon loosers, pleez moove yer family and frends too misisippi and alabama, and put a big fense up to keep out the gaze and mecksicans. Keep up yer inbreeding plan, and wate fer the rapture…………. Better yet, just ask your spiteful, poison god to come and pick you up now, and let those of us who actually love our country get busy trying to heal the nation and the planet. Goodbye and good riddance, on Tuesday we take our nation back! I am a proud veteran and father of 3, and I cannot wait to see Elizabeth Dole slink her slimy behind back to Kreashunism Kansas, never to darken the Tarheel state again.
Posted by: David K. Underwood II | November 2, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
America was founded by Christian Patriots. Obama the Bozo is about the furthest thing away from a Patriot. An African Muslim here illegally
Vote “No Bozos” on Tuesday
Posted by: Joe isn’t home | Nov 2, 2008 4:47:40 PM
If you think the GOP are Christians or Patriots, they have proved over and over again they aren’t!
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
The noble study of history corrupted by campaign talking points, sigh.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
How sad so many Americans have fallen for the Obamanisms, lots of promises he won’t keep, same as he did when he ran for the Senate. You think he will bring this country together and bring peace? He can’t even do that in his home state of Illinois, with Chicago continuing to have the highest crime and murder rates in the country. He won’t answer who is generating the campaign funds, he promoted racism in his SC rally with Oprah, he is friends and neighbors with a convicted terrorist, and lest we forget his hateful minister. I’m an Independent voter and my vote if for McCain/Palin. I don’t agree with all the Republican ideas, same with the Democrats. But I’ll put my trust in a proven American hero anytime, anywhere. Democrats are part of the last 8 yrs. of misleadership too folks.
Posted by: Teresa NY | November 2, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Jwench – I know what you mean. I’ve never seen the Republican party gravitate toward such hatred of the U.S. as it has recently.
They claim to love the U.S., but in reality they love this false notion of how the country always has been and therefore must remain – a notion rooted in the fantasy of 1960s family sitcoms I believe.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
I don’t think there are a lot of soldiers serving in Iraq that appreciate the Bozo Obama wanting to surrender.
Posted by: Joe isn’t home | Nov 2, 2008 5:01:17 PM
I have two sons in Iraq “joe” and most of them are tired of giving their blood for no reason. And one of my closest friends now no longer has a son that can say one way or another since he died in Iraq in an attack on his vehicle. Maybe we should send you over there since you seem to believe so much in the cause. It is pathetic idiots like you who make real Americans cringe in shame.
Posted by: Mary | November 2, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Joe Isn’t Home go to Hell… where you came from.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
I’m anxious to see how ‘big’ and willing Joe Biden and the rest of the Dem’s are when McCain wins with a nice margin. Obama is UNELECTABLE! Wait and see!
McCain 296
Obama 248
It would probably be more, but I think the Dem’s did a good job with expanding their voter fraud this year. Way to go ACORN!
Posted by: JIM | November 2, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
>>The stupidest portion of our nation has made us a laughingstock around THE WORLD<<
I personaly dont give a rats ass what the rest of the world thinks. i don't live for the world, I live and work hard for Me and my family. Not for some one else to redistribute my hard work for the socially inept and lazy
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
David , I hope you still like the homosexual agenda when your kids get taught about the “prince” who married the “prince” in grade school. I ask you to please not post that you are from North Carolina you are an embarrassment to the state.
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
>>Joe Isn’t Home go to Hell… where you came from.<<
At least I can call my self a patriot. I spent tweny years in the military protecting your right to rant your garbage. How many years did you serve?
Now you go to hell!
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Here’s a tip to Republicans. Mayberry never existed.
True, it was based on Sheriff Andy’s real home town of Mount Airy, NC. But as a television show Andy Griffith decided early on it would be more of a light-hearted comedy than a reflection of reality of a southern town in the 1960s. That’s why there’s no blacks in the TV version of the town.
In reality, this country has never been like that. Never was, and never will be, regardless of whatever Kristolnacht tactics, subtle or blatant, you guys throw out there.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Joe isn’t home,
Did you even read his entire statement to Joe the Fake Plumber? Well here is the entire thing and not just the little snippet of spread the wealth.
“I just want you to be clear – it’s not that I want to punish your success – I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you – that they’ve got a chance at success too.”
Obama said, “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business, you’re gonna be better off if you’re gonna be better off if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you, and right now everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody and I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Joe, I spent 20 as well – Marine artillery officer. And I’m for Obama. Neither party has patriotism cornered, despite the incoherent fantasies of one of them.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Joe: “I personaly dont give a rats ass what the rest of the world thinks. i don’t live for the world, I live and work hard for Me and my family. Not for some one else to redistribute my hard work for the socially inept and lazy”
Let’s look at this statement line by line.
Yes, we Americans should care what the world thinks of us, at least to a point. We want to be global leaders, right? How do we exert that influence if the countries we’re hoping to lead don’t have respect for us, and don’t see the things we say as credible?
As for the not redistributing wealth part, we’ve had progressive tax rates for 90 years. And remember, when you were serving your country, you weren’t actually producing anything. I’m not saying you weren’t fulfilling an important function, but we both can agree you weren’t doing anything that economically helps the nation.
Your paycheck, your free health care, and all the other benefits you enjoyed – that was a redistribution of wealth away from people who actually produce wealth to you.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Jwench – the funniest thing is these guys who are worried about being punished for their success are probably better off under the Obama tax plan than the McCain one.
And if they are fortunate enough to actually bring home over $250k in income or profits, only the amounts over $250k will be taxed at a rate 3 percent higher.
A lot of ranting over almost nothing.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
McCain – 281
Obama – 257
Florida, Ohio, Virginia and Pennsylvania all go McCain/Palin!!!!
IDP/TIPP
Obama 46.7
McCain 44.6
THE MAC IS BACK!!!!!!
This is going to be FUN!
Posted by: Theallknowing | November 2, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
i don’t live for the world, I live and work hard for Me and my family.
Sounds pretty un-patriotic to me. I mean, where is America? In it’s own little universe? No, in the world!
No, sir, that place is reserved for the likes of people like you.
Anyone who calls a nation of people dessecrated by a bunch of racists for some land savages and can say this: I vote we Nuke N. Africa. In fact all of Africa except South Africa. The only thing that comes from that part of the world is Aids, corruption and genecide
Obama needs to take his silly ass back to Africa where he came from, the guy is such a Bozo
Posted by: Joe isn’t home | Nov 2, 2008 4:32:14 PM
- Point made. You Joe are antisocial.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
What cn you get when a military man with a short temper and we can see thqat he will do anything to win,goes into office with an vp who thinks killing animals for sport WAR,and more war, so all you young men setting at home blogging for this idiot he said he is going to start the draft, maybe get to go and have your brains blown out or come back with no legs.
Posted by: mary derricotte | November 2, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Well Joe, unlike you and your closet queen friends, my family and I aren’t frightened by homosexuals. Your bigotry makes YOU an embarassment to the Old North State, not I. Keep trying to spread poison, bigot… I’m sure your bigoted mammy and pappy are very proud.
Morons are always afraid of anything they don’t understand… I have lived for many years here in beautiful NC, and I can say this from VAST experience; I have never had ANYONE but republicans tell me N***** jokes. Crawl back under your rock, Joe, and say hi to the other frightened worms when you get there. Have fun Tuesday;)
Posted by: David K. Underwood II | November 2, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Well, Mr. theallknowing, I’d have to say at this point if McCain does win, its only because of lies about taxes and Obama’s patriotism.
Can McCain still win? Sure, he has a narrow path to 270. Its unlikely, but possible.
But if he does win, and I contributed to that win by repeating those lies, I’d have a huge problem with my own conscience. Good luck to you and yours.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
>>Your paycheck, your free health care, and all the other benefits you enjoyed – that was a redistribution of wealth away from people who actually produce wealth to you.<<
What a bunch of rubbish. Maybe we should completely do away with the military. Let the Communist Red China take over. Then we will live under Obama's Marxist plan.
Who give's a rats ass about being a world leader. Take care of business at home. Screw the rest of the world's negative views of America. I don't lose sleep over what the Congo or perhaps Ethiopia thinks of my country
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Responding to junglejim on why anyone would vote for McCain/Palin:
Experience (decades of Senate experience, and only ticket with executive experience).
Extensive bipartisan voting record to the point of hurting his career.
Pro-life.
Pro 2nd amendment rights.
Reduce government size.
Reduce the budget.
Solid military experience.
Right on military surge – we have won in Iraq (lowest casualties this month).
Pro offshore drilling, nuclear power and other forms of energy.
For securing the borders, while very sympathetic to illegals in bipartisan immigration bill.
Why people should not go Obama/Biden.
Inexperienced Presidential Candidate.
Consistent left-wing associations that show his true beliefs.
Move to keep increasing government size and power over people.
Liberal democrat control – (Obama #1, Biden #3, Pelosi, and Reid)
Increase in taxes, where democrats define the middle class as making much lower than $250K ($200K, $150K, $120K???) a year. CEO pay does not equate to people making $250K/year, or even double that.
Will allow Bush tax cuts to expire, which will increase taxes automatically on those making over $42K.
Spreading the wealth view – class warfare.
Radically pro-abortion (want to sign the Freedom of Choice Act which would scrap any restrictions on abortion up to the point the child is actually born).
Extremely pro-gun control.
Amnesty, welfare, and health care to illegal immigrants.
Obama and democrats are against off-shore drilling and already planning to restrict any drilling again.
Against nuclear power expansion.
The basis of the current economic crisis is based on mortgage lending to people who could not afford it – Democratic and ACORN push. Also, people could not afford homes when the energy costs (mainly oil/gas) raised prices across the board. That was mainly an energy issue. Democrats have not allowed for increased drilling or nuclear power expansion for decades.
Posted by: EMD | November 2, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Joe: “What a bunch of rubbish. Maybe we should completely do away with the military.”
I believe, sir, you missed the point.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
>>my family and I aren’t frightened by homosexuals<<
So long as you keep your queer family and friends away from my children. Please don't teach them in school that this is a normal way of life.
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Joe, let me just say as an Obama supporter, I hope you talk to as many voters as possible between now and election day, lol.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Poor little bigot joe. Don’t worry, I wouldn’t let my beautiful children within a mile of a rascist, bigot queer little red-neck like yourself or your stunted, inbred progeny.
Posted by: David K. Underwood II | November 2, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Now go watch some wrestling, the grown-ups are talking.
Posted by: David K. Underwood II | November 2, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Why are you all talking so disrespectful about the next president of the? OBAMA Spo I guess when your friends ask you are you predjudice what will you say, Hidding benind the invisible sheet.
Posted by: mary derricotte | November 2, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
>>>Poor little bigot joe. Don’t worry, I wouldn’t let my beautiful children within a mile of a rascist, bigot queer little red-neck like yourself or your stunted, inbred progeny.<<
You obviously don't worry about queers molesting your children. So sad you are
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
McCain – 281
Obama – 257
Florida, Ohio, Virginia and Pennsylvania all go McCain/Palin!!!!
IDP/TIPP
Obama 46.7
McCain 44.6
THE MAC IS BACK!!!!!!
This is going to be FUN!
Posted by: Theallknowing | Nov 2, 2008 5:24:28 PM
Keep dreaming right now it is
McCain 181
Obama 333
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
History shows that the economy always does better under the democrats and I am not giving my vote to someone who would pick Palin. “Country First” my ass. McCain/Palin 4 more years of the same or worse. If McCain dies in office, worse than any of us can imagine.
http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/03/opinion/oe-kinsley3
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_05/006282.php
Posted by: Sarah | November 2, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Oh, you mean like Mark Foley? Or maybe Larry Craig? Thanks again joe for making my argument for me, and still managing to make yourself look even more stupid and bigoted at the same time. You have a rare gift, keep spewing hate, moron.
Posted by: David K. Underwood II | November 2, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Dave,I am sad for this great state that closet homosexuals like yourself are moving in, well their goes the neighborhood,I guess you are one of the liberals who are under the delusion that the sexual deviant behavior of sodomy is genetic . How sad ,and you try to present yourself as an intellectual.
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
>>History shows that the economy always does better under the democrats and I am not giving my vote to someone who would pick Palin. “Country First” my ass. McCain/Palin 4 more years of the same or worse. If McCain dies in office, worse than any of us can imagine. <<
By the garbage you read what else can be expected. Obviously too many people in this country rely on the media to make their decisions.
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Dear “Joe isn’t home”
Thank you sir for your dedication and service to our country. Because of great men (and women) like yourself, Americans are still able to sleep with both eyes shut, safe in knowing our great military is protecting us here and abroad.
How dare anyone question or insult your service.
Posted by: Teresa NY | November 2, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Actually, I find it funny but expected. Their reign is over with Bush. They knew he wasnt exactly what they meant when they put him in office but they thought he would do. Well, he did, pitifully. Now the anxiety is rampant around the country to prove the reps can do the job correctly. TOO LATE. It AINT gonna happen. They had their chance and its time to go BAMA GoBAMA
Posted by: tendergroins | November 2, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
History also shows its Republicans who run up huge national debt. First under Reagan, and then most recently under Bush, we’ve seen an explosion of debt.
It doubled in the last eight years, and now paying the financing charges on it are more than our entire defense budget.
Thanks Republicans.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Wow, four out of five headlines here are about Biden? He is the least interesting of the four candidates and recently muzzled because of his constant gaffes. He will have to be locked away if Bozo wins.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN
Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | November 2, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
You obviously don’t worry about queers molesting your children. So sad you are
Posted by: Joe isn’t home | Nov 2, 2008 5:38:37 PM
That just shows just how ignorant you are about homosexuals. Homosexuals and pedophiles are two different things. Most pedophiles are “straight” males.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
In a motherly voice:
Jwench- how was your storybook? Oh, you liked it that much. Oh, but in real life things like that don’t happen, especially when the G.O.P. pick is playing defense in all of the red states.
And, Joe? You need to learn that you too can live in a world with people you don’t like. It’s called tolerance. It’s what Christ taught when people who didn’t like him tried to condemn him.
Record stops- But you don’t believe in Christ do you?
I guess, it’d be a little far fetched then to say “play nice children” when one of the children happens to be antisocial and racist.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
>>Oh, you mean like Mark Foley? Or maybe Larry Craig? Thanks again joe for making my argument for me, and still managing to make yourself look even more stupid and bigoted at the same time. You have a rare gift, keep spewing hate, moron.<<
Now you are turning around your facts. You are the one who stated how much you love the Queers in your family and friends. Its people like those that do the molesting
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Hey EMD,
Smaller government? You’re kidding right? What a load of nonsense AKA know as a Republican talking point.
WASHINGTON — Since George W. Bush became president, the Republican Party has presided over massive, out-of-control government spending, converted a federal budget surplus into a half-trillion-dollar deficit, and looked the other way while Wall Street’s greed and stupidity turned the hallowed free market into scorched earth.
http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081015/OPINION/810150425/1049
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Sarah | November 2, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Biden is a load and a poor choice for Obama’s CHANGE and HOPE with the old Senator. He needed Biden for some reassurace on Foreign Affairs….too bad I’m more concerned with Obama not being able to see a terriorist, racist or a criminal WHEN THEY ARE RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS FACE!
Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | November 2, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
But I believe that when you really look at the tax code today, the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don’t pay nearly as much as you think they do when you just look at the percentages. And I think middle-income Americans, working Americans, when the account and payroll taxes, sales taxes, mortgage pay — all of the taxes that working Americans pay, I think they — you would think that they also deserve significant relief, in my view…
Posted by: JohnM | November 2, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
With each new post, you solidify your doom; turn off faux news and learn to spell, joe….. You will doubtless be too busy burning crosses and beating up gays, I’m sure… What a good little bigot you are! Jesus has a surprise in store for you, bigot…
Posted by: David K. Underwood II | November 2, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
I’m sorry Joe isn’t home,
Did I ask you to read something with too many big words or is it that you just get your info from Fox News?
Posted by: Sarah | November 2, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Jwench- how was your storybook? Oh, you liked it that much. Oh, but in real life things like that don’t happen, especially when the G.O.P. pick is playing defense in all of the red states.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | Nov 2, 2008 5:44:49 PM
What are you talking about? I am not part of the GOP thank you very much.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Amazing how Sara was scammed by a radio station in Montreal. Could you imagine her as Pres. May God help us all.
Posted by: jim | November 2, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
How many of you McCain supporters are making 250K a year? I mean, who here has got any wealth to spread?
If you don’t then shut up. I seriously, don’t know why you’re complaining because the man who you’re bashing is actually in your best interests.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
CAN YOU JUST IMAGINE HOW THIS WOULD BE IN THE TANK, LITERALLY, IF OBAMA’S EGO HADN’T GOT IN THE WAY OF CHOOSING HILLARY?
BIDEN THE OLD FART, IS A NEGATIVE. WHY DOES SNL NEVER PARODY HIM? BECAUSE NO ONE CARES!!! He is such a joke.
HILLARY SUPPORER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | November 2, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Obama is counting on all the sheep out there to vote for him on Tuesday. BAH!
How can anyone vote for a man who has associations with the likes of Wright,Ayers etc. You really don’t believe that he never knew what these people stood for, do you? It just goes to prove my point that history does repeat itself. Hitler also had a gift of gab and the people followed.
Posted by: Linda/Michigan | November 2, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Oh, sorry Jwench
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
I meant Theallknowing. I agreed with your comment.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Jim
Sarah got scammed the same way you are.
Enough said.
Posted by: Linda/Michigan | November 2, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Hopey – have to disagree there. Hillary has higher negatives than Biden and would have become the rallying point for the GOP base. With her on the ticket, McCain doesn’t have to worry about his base, and can actually pick someone with some understanding of the issues.
A Hillary choice was the fastest way to grab defeat out of the jaws of victory.
Elections are mostly about independents, assuming you have your base with you. Independents don’t trust Hillary, as polls have shown. She wouldn’t have helped Obama, except with the Democratic base, but Obama managed to shore up that well enough. McCain was the one with the bigger base problem, which forced him to pick an empty vessel, though one who spouts the gibberish the GOP base loves.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
I find it funny how the homosexual crowd love to talk about Jesus, and His “approval of sodomy” I think we know from the Bible what happened to the sodomites! I would guess like all liberals you don’t believe the Old Testament so, I will give you Romans 1:26+27 . I would love to see you rturn to your own state with the lack of values you bring to ours.
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
meant Theallknowing. I agreed with your comment.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | Nov 2, 2008 5:56:36 PM
With all the GOP nonsense on here it’s easy to confuse posters :)
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Obamistas are going to get the shock of their lives from the heartland – come Tuesday.
Undecideds are breaking for McCain and the polls oversample like they always do…Carter was up big on Reagan, Kerry up big on Bush…reality will be a 2 x 4 to the head on Tuesday.
Pass the popcorn.
Posted by: rbm | November 2, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
That said, Hillary certainly helped Obama with her active support. She certainly could have led a greater number of her supporters into a deeper degree of bitterness toward Obama, at which point they sit the election out or even cross over for McCain.
So don’t mean to sound like I’m trashing Hillary. But facts are facts, and something like 70 percent of independents don’t think she’s honest, according to the last poll I saw on that a few months back. And we all know what Republicans think about her.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Linda/Michigan
Get a grip. 90% of the world wants Obama. What part of that don’t you get?????
Posted by: Jim | November 2, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Hey Sarah,
No, I am not kidding.
If the question is who will keep the government the smallest, then McCain wins that issue. Democrats are all about larger government. In the Republican Convention, McCain acknowledged that the Republican party lost sight of reducing government. I would rather vote for someone with the courage to admit the wrongs of his own party at their own convention, than for those who have not seen how the “Great Society” efforts have not really panned out for most people.
Thanks for ignoring all my other points. I, for one, am not going to just vote my pocketbook.
Posted by: EMD | November 2, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
rbm – good luck to you and your candidate.
I don’t agree that undecideds are breaking for McCain, but they might. Who knows?
I suspect the bigger factor right now is ground game – organization and how that translates into GOTV.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
>>Get a grip. 90% of the world wants Obama. What part of that don’t you get?????<<
Another friggin idiot worried about what the rest of the world thinks
Posted by: Joe isn't home | November 2, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
John McCain and the Keating Five, What Every Voter MUST Know
During the 2000 Republican Presidential Primaries, Slate.com writer Chris Suellentrop wrote an excellent in-depth feature article about John McCain and his role in the Keating Five. This is a must read article for every American, especially for anyone who thinks John McCainis a hero.
Two Important things to know before you read the article:
1. John McCain admitted to intentionally filing false income tax returns to defraud the IRS by not claiming thousands of dollars in gifts McCain and his family received from Charles Keating and Keating’s company. Years later, when the IRS noticed Keating’s company had written off the gifts to McCain as business expenses, McCain fessed up and admitted filing false returns and made a “donation” to the U.S. Treasury to cover the amount he defrauded American tax payers. (Committing tax fraud is one of the least offensive things John McCain has done over his career, but this article just focuses on his role in the Keating Five, and the Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal of the late 1980’s-early 1990’s). McCain also leaked information about the Keating Five to the press multiple times in an effort to appear above the other Senators in the scandal. A 1989 Phoenix New Times article summed it up best with their title – McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five.
2. John McCain’s wife, Cindy McCain, along with her father, made a $359,000 investment in retail property owned by Charles Keating in 1986, a year before John McCain first met with federal regulators on behalf of Keating. Keating was later convicted on 73 counts of fraud, conspiracy, and other crimes. Years later, Cindy McCain sold her investment for $15,000,000.
For anyone not aware of the Keating Five, here’s a very simple summary:
Charles Keating owned a savings and loan in California. He was illegally using the money of his bank’s customers to give loans to himself and friends that they didn’t have to repay, and to speculate on risky real estate investments, which was strictly forbidden by U.S. law (and was one cause of the Great Depression).
When the feds found out what was going on and launched an investigation into Keating and his company, Keating called five U.S. Senators whom he had wined, dined, and lavished with hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign donations and personal gifts.
Keating asked the five Senators to tell the feds to bug off, and the five Senators, later known as the Keating Five, obliged, meeting with federal investigators twice and pressuring them to stop investigating Keating’s crimes. They bought Keating some time, but the feds didn’t give up and eventually Keating was nailed. The reason the feds were so persistent was because Keating wasn’t playing with mere chump change. Keating blew $3.4 billion through illegal personal loans and bad investments, and the FDIC had to reimburse Keating’s customers who had been ripped off.
(Background Info – Keating wasn’t the only Savings and Loan owner who was committing fraud, 20% of the S&L’s that failed during that three year period were found to have been caused by fraud and/or insider trading. The failure of the Lincoln Savings and Loan and other S&L’s pushed the country into a recession, costing the U.S. government $126 billion dollars in FDIC insurance payouts to investors. All of this came to a crescendo during the first year of the presidency of George H.W. Bush, who pushed through the S&L bailout plan to keep the economy afloat.)
When the involvement of the Keating Five was made public, a scandal erupted and the Senate Ethics Committee launched their own investigation into whether the Keating Five had violated Senate ethics rules. The other four Senators left office either immediately or within one term. John McCain was formally rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising “poor judgment” for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating, but because McCain accepted Keating’s gifts of travel and vacations to Bahama while McCain was a member of the House of Representatives (he served one term there before moving to the Senate), the Senate claimed they had no jurisdiction to censure McCain. (However the meetings to pressure federal regulators occurred during the first few months of McCain serving in the Senate in 1987, so that excuse doesn’t hold up)
John McCain then went back to the drawing board and re-invented himself as “the Straight-Talk Express” and the media gobbled it up. “Tax-Evading-Criminal” doesn’t sound as catchy as “Straight-Shooting-War-Hero”.
Ever since the scandal, when McCain lies today, it’s never questioned, because he’s a “straight talker”. The man has more skeletons in his closet than any politician in history. The Keating Five is just one bone.
After reading the Slate article, ask yourself: if Obama or any other candidate had a scandal such as the Keating Five in their past, would the mainstream media never question it? Could any other candidate even have a political career after the Keating Five? For the other four Senators, the answer is no. And while Charles Keating went to prison for his role in the scandal, John McCain swept it under the rug and could soon be President of the United States of America.
Posted by: McCain lives in a glass house | November 2, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
EMD: “If the question is who will keep the government the smallest, then McCain wins that issue. Democrats are all about larger government.”
I know that’s the GOP fantasy talking point, but EMD, you have to realize after the government expansions under Reagan and Bush, no one really believes it anymore.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
People can’t even get blood transfusions now without the fear of Aids, thanks to the sexual deviants.
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Poor Joe he’s been in the senate forever and unlike Mccain he hasn’t done a dang thing to help americans. He did however run a large bill up to ride the train home everyday at taxpayer expense ,vows to shut down the coal industry and is supporting an out and out socialist for president. Thats change I’m not interested in.
What you rubes don’t know is that democrats do the same at the Mccain/Palin rallys. So stop acting like babys because Joe had to defend himself.
Posted by: hillary widebottom | November 2, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
G. Gordon Liddy: John McCain Finds His Own Radical
John McCain has had a field day with Barack Obama’s tenuous associations with Bill Ayers, a former member of the Weather Underground who is now a Chicago professor.
Obama has said repeatedly that Ayers’ radical past (he was involved in a handful of bombings in the 1960s) occurred when Barack was just a child, and he repudiates those actions. Nevertheless, McCain wants more. He claimed recently:
“I think not only a repudiation but an apology for ever having anything to do with an unrepentant terrorist is due the American people.”
Now, however, the Chicago Tribune is pointing out McCain’s own radical associations with G. Gordon Liddy:
How close are McCain and Liddy? At least as close as Obama and Ayers appear to be. In 1998, Liddy’s home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator’s campaigns–including $1,000 this year.
Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as “an old friend,” and McCain sounded like one. “I’m proud of you, I’m proud of your family,” he gushed. “It’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.”
For those who are unaware, Liddy helped plan the Watergate break-in that would cost Nixon his presidency and landed Liddy a four-year jail sentence.
But Liddy’s career of inflammatory statements and actions exceed his Watergate actions.
Liddy, on Vitenam:
“I wanted to bomb the Red River dykes [sic]. It would have drowned half the country and starved the other half. There would have been no way the Viet Cong could have operated if we had the will-power to do that.”
Liddy, advising Branch Davidians how to defend themselves from ATF agents during a radio show:
“If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they’re wearing flak jackets and you’re better off shooting for the head.”
Liddy, on the impact Adolf Hitler had on him as a child:
When he listened to Hitler on the radio, it “made me feel a strength inside I had never known before,” he explains. “Hitler’s sheer animal confidence and power of will [entranced me]. He sent an electric current through my body.”
Posted by: McCain lives in a glass house | November 2, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
CHRIST DIED for all sins so, *gasp* even you too could be redeemed Joe. As for the Old Testament- you would bring that up. The OT was imperfect that’s why God sent a messiah. Instead of just killing those who didn’t obey them he decided to give everyone a 2nd chance. Even those who had a part in killing him, but the thing about it thought is Sometimes people like you don’t listen. Give people a chance to redeem themselves. Oh, and by the way you would forget the “Thou Shlat not Judge” part of the bible that keeps coming up so often. And I guess I should forgive you and retract my statement about you going to Hell. Maybe one day you’ll realize just how wrong you are.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Does the phrase “iron my shirt!” ring any bells for Obama supporters? Those were words yelled by them at Hillary Clinton during the Primaries – fraud Caucus’. That plus accusations of racism anytime someone dared to question the one. How about the media, ask a question they don’t like and your kicked off the plane. Remember the ABC debate? After those hard questions asked of Obama, he refused any more debates. Yea, he’s above it all.
Posted by: glennmcgahee | November 2, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I was at this rally today here in Tallahassee.
Yes, the McCain folks with their chants and siren were a bit annoying, bless their hearts.
But ….
As I was trying to get TO the rally …
Sure wish those McCain folks would keep the sidewalk clear.
They about caused me to wreck my bicycle and crash into a baby stroller they had with them as I tried to avoid one demonstrator who stepped in my path.
Generally, they were not Good Citizens by blocking the right-of-way, and was maybe just the Grace of Heaven I did miss that stroller, especially if there was a baby in it.
Saddest part – they were clueless about my presence, oblivious to others around them, and focused only on their cause.
Hummm …. fairly metaphorical for the last 8 years or so.
And typical of the Republican Mindset in USA, and World, for the past 30+ years.
Posted by: BC Kelly | November 2, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
“People can’t even get blood transfusions now without the fear of Aids, thanks to the sexual deviants.”
What I don’t get is why the party so opposed to sexual deviants keeps electing them to office, lol.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Isn’t is amusing to watch all of these easy chair political experts spew their professed knowledge about how the election will turn out.. while discounting everything else that reality tells them. I had a cousin once (on my wifes site thankfully) who was a few crayons short of a full box. She was so stupid, she had no clue that she was, and just went through life with a weird kind of scary smile on her face.
Many of the posters here, who all seem to be pushing the republican ticket, remind me of her in many, many ways.
Joe is a classic example.. he really isn’t ‘here’ but in some little world in his mind that appears to be very dark and full of bad people.
Posted by: benji | November 2, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Why McCain’s Time With Council Of World Freedom Matters
Since Sunday, Democrats have been buzzing about the re-revelation that during the 1980s, Sen. John McCain served on the board of a far-right conservative organization that had supplied arms and funds to paramilitary organizations in Latin America.
Democratic strategist Paul Begala lit the fire when, during an appearance on Meet the Press, he warned that this relatively obscure detail from McCain’s past could draw him into a guilt-by-association game he was bound to regret.
“John McCain sat on the board of…the U.S. Council for World Freedom,” said Begala, “The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League – the parent organization – which ADL said ‘has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites.’”
But McCain’s involvement in the U.S. Council for World Freedom, which extended from 1981 through, possibly, 1986 is significant — not merely because it ties him to unsavory characters but because it firmly associates him with a foreign policy that was, at the time and still, controversial.
“I didn’t know that [McCain had] served on the board,” said Shannon O’Neil
Douglas Dillon Fellow for Latin American Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. “It is a little bit surprising to me. But all of those organizations did come from the Republican side mostly. Often the people were tied to the military and they saw the world in black and white terms… My impression is [McCain] still sees the world in back and white.”
The USCWF was founded in Phoenix, Arizona in November 1981 as an offshoot of the World Anti-Communist League. The group was, from the onset, saddled with the disreputable reputation of its parent group. The WACL had ties to ultra-right figures and Latin American death squads. Roger Pearson, the chairman of the WACL, was expelled from the group in 1980 under allegations that he was a member of a neo-Nazi organization.
The U.S. Council of World Freedom claimed to be cleansed of these elements. The group’s director, retired Major General John Singlaub, said he had purged some of the more “kooky” members, including a Mexican chapter that “blamed everything on the Jews,” and “even accused Pope John Paul of being a Jew.” The Anti-Defamation League, once critical, applauded Singlaub for his efforts. Moreover, the USCWF was granted a sense of political legitimacy when President Ronald Reagan addressed the group in September 1984.
But the group’s secret activities were still controversial. It claimed to support “pro-Democratic resistance movements fighting communist totalitarianism.” And during the 1980s it became a vehicle for the Reagan administration to prop up some of the more totalitarian, anti-communist efforts in Central America.
Posted by: McCain lives in a glass house | November 2, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
BC Kelly, hey I’m from Tallahassee. Kind of surprised about the G.O.P. hecklers. Know of any surpress the vote tactics going on by McCain supporters there? I just read an article at the CBS website. I never knew what tortured souls the G.O.P. base were.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
What is the McCain attacking point of the day?
In all the discussion, I kind of missed that. Usually you can tell right away what it is – terrorism, socialism, innexperience, taxes… But today, not so clear. Didn’t you guys get the daily e-mail?
By the way, I love the new McCain ad saying Obama isn’t ready yet to be president. So in McCain’s strange, self-contradicting view of the world, Obama pals around with terrorists, doesn’t put the nation first, and generally doesn’t love the nation like a Republican… but McCain’s new opposition is that he isn’t “yet” ready?
Maybe you Republicans would do better if your attacks didn’t contradict your other attacks? I mean, I realize you guys are the experts at this underhanded, ugly kind of campaigning. So just a suggestion from someone outside of that world. Take it for what its worth.
Posted by: Paul | November 2, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
FACT SHEET: Military record of John Sidney McCain III
Both McCain III’s father and grandfather were Admirals in the United States Navy. His father
Admiral John S. ”Junior” McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe – later commander of
American forces in Vietnam while McCain III was being held prisoner of war. His grandfather
John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.
McCain III, like his father and grandfather, also attended the United States Naval Academy.
McCain III finished near the bottom of his graduating class in 1958.
McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft
1 – Student pilot McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus
Christi Bay while practicing landings.
2 – Pilot McCain III lost another plane two years later while he was deployed in the
Mediterranean. ”Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines
which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the
son of an admiral.
3 – Pilot McCain III lost number three in 1965 when he was returning from flying a Navy
trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. McCain III radioed, ”I’ve got
a flameout” and ejected at one thousand feet. The plane crashed to the ground and
McCain III floated to a deserted beach.
4 – Combat pilot McCain III lost his fourth on July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to
the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk combat pilot. While waiting his turn for takeoff, an
accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain Jr’s. plane. He escaped from the burning
aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft,
and threatened to sink the ship.
5 – Combat pilot McCain III lost a fifth plane three months later (Oct. 26, 1967) during his
23rd mission over North Vietnam when he failed to avoid a surface-to-air missile. McCain
III ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently
parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi. After being pulled from the lake by the North
Vietnamese, McCain III was bayoneted in his left foot and shoulder and struck by a rifle
butt. He was then transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.
1973 New York Daily News labeled POW McCain III a “PW Songbird”
On McCain III’s fourth day of being denied medical treatment, slapped, and threatened with
death by the communist (they were demanding military information in exchange for medical
treatment), McCain III broke and told his interrogator, ”O.K., I’ll give you military information if you
will take me to the hospital.” U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former
POW John McCain.
It was then that the communist learned that McCain III’s father was Admiral John S. McCain,
the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific. The Vietnamese rushed McCain III to
Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government documents), a medical facility normally unavailable
for U.S. POWs.
By Nov. 9, 1967 (U.S. government documents) Hanoi press was quoting McCain III describing
his mission including the number of aircraft in his flight, information about rescue ships, and the
order of which U.S. attacks would take place.
While in still in North Vietnam’s military hospital, McCain III gave an interview to prominent
French television reporter Francois Chalais for a series titled Life in Hanoi. Chalais’ interview with
McCain III was aired in Europe.
Vietnamese doctors operated on McCain’s Leg in early December, 1967.
Six weeks after he was shot down, McCain was taken from the hospital and delivered to a
U.S. POW camp,
In May of 1968, McCain III allowed himself to be interviewed by two North Vietnamese
generals at separate times.” May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain
In August 1968, other POWs learned for the first time that John McCain III had been taken
prisoner.
On June 5, 1969, the New York Daily News reported in a article headlined Reds Say PW
Posted by: McCain lives in a glass house | November 2, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
That is why I quoted the New Testament
If you don’t stand against the homosexual agenda to indoctrinat our, children don’t call yourself a Christian!
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
People can’t even get blood transfusions now without the fear of Aids, thanks to the sexual deviants.
Posted by: Joe | Nov 2, 2008 6:07:08 PM
That’s funny, there are more straight people with aids than there are anyone else. I guess you didn’t get the memo that aids is not just a homosexual disease.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
– But the group’s secret activities were still controversial. –
Not only that, but they were the group responsible for covertly funding and arming the militants in the Iran Contra scandal.. as well as the Kosovo Liberation Army.. the Congress released a white paper about them:
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/fr033199.htm
And some of their actions can be seen on the web site:
http://www.kosovoliberationarmy.com/
The Albanian American Citizens League has raised millions for McCains campaign, and continues to support and praise him for his involvement in supporting the KLA. McCain again claimed his continued support in the 2nd presidential debate. Yet, if you are wearing your GOP sunglasses, these actions and associations become transparent because John was a POW and could not be involved in such matters.
Posted by: jdb | November 2, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
– If you don’t stand against the homosexual agenda to indoctrinat our, children don’t call yourself a Christian! –
I have not heard about this ‘agenda’, nor have I seen any evidence of it.. perhaps you could point to a reference spelling out how they are doing this.. It would make some amusing reading while taking my morning dump.
Posted by: Concerned American | November 2, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Joe don’t quote the bible unless you fully embrace ALL of it. The bible specifically tells us to love everyone, including our enemies. So if you figure homosexuals to be your enemies, it’d have you love them too.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Joe…Joe,
You are an ignorant, backward thinking, homophobic, racist ass. The world is changing for the better and people like you will become fewer and fewer. You can quote the bible all you want, but you have no idea what it is to be a Christian. Just a judgmental little minded hater. What a sad little troll.
Posted by: Sarah | November 2, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Sure “concerned dump” I will give you one of many examples , The San Fransico “lesbian” who took her firs grade class on a “field trip” to her “lesbian wedding it does not get much more pathetic than this!
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
[2.175] These are they who buy error for the right direction and chastisement for forgiveness; how bold they are to encounter fire.
Posted by: Mulla | November 2, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Jwench,
The sexual revolution was happening when aids first hit this country and it just happened to strike the Gay community first. What does your homophobia have to do with this election?
Posted by: Sarah | November 2, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Wow ! I didn’t know that being against the sexual deviant agenda made me a racist? Sodomites are a race now?
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Joe,
I am guessing your life is pretty pathetic. Every one knows haters grow out of self hatred.
Posted by: Sarah | November 2, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
The truth of the matter is I don’t agree with homosexuality, but people are free to do whatever they choose as long as it doesn’t hurt or affect me. I was raised in a strict, conservative Holiness background- which is far more demanding of scripture. I was taught that if you are afraid to be around someone who is unholy than maybe your faith and sincereity isn’t real. REAL Christians would just instill in there children there core values and vote to protect marriage between a man and a woman while voting for a transparent man who has not contradicted (lied) about everything just to win an election. I’ve done my research and I know that if I want to protect my conservative values it must first be done at the local and state level. Barack Obama’s campaign against gay marriage. They don’t plan to do anything for or against it. However, they will leave issues such as gay marriage up to the state in which we the people will have to vote. So do the decent thing and learn to tolerate others who you don’t agree with without slurring them. It’s unfair.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Just a judgmental little minded hater.
Posted by: Sarah | Nov 2, 2008 6:28:57 PM
LOL…just had to tell you I loved that part of your post.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Hey Paul,
Glad to see you want some too.
“GOP Fantasy Point”? I don’t think so. Biggest increases where with FDR, and the initiatives put in place by Johnson. It has grown in other administrations, but the biggest growth has been when government has tried to do more to “Help” people more with big programs. Also, there are articles you can find that show that government increases with rising income taxes – more money, more people to manage and send it.
That is why I think Obama will end up growing government, as well as government spending, even more.
At the end, the government should only take that money that it truly needs. It is not a gift when government takes less of our money for other programs, and it should not be in the business of taking money from one group for the sole purpose of giving it to others. Numerically, you will never be able to take enough to truly make it worthwhile to those in the bottom.
But I’ll repeat what got me into this forum in the first place, before someone nit-picked one line of it.
Why I am voting for McCain.
Experience.
Pro-life.
Pro-2nd amendment rights.
Pro-smaller government (and that can mean less government involvement in our lives).
Pro-drilling and nuclear power.
Securing our borders while by concerned for immigrants as people (and yes, I do not like how Republicans as a whole have handled this – but I do like McCain’s)
So like I said before, I am voting on several issues, not just the economy. If you differ – that is fine with me.
Posted by: EMD | November 2, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
– Sure “concerned dump” I will give you one of many examples , The San Fransico “lesbian” who took her firs grade class on a “field trip” to her “lesbian wedding it does not get much more pathetic than this! –
Oh my, indeed, how terrible.. a lesbian wedding! The horrors of it all. You are indeed a pathetic little troll, living in a world of fear and intolerance so distanced from reality that it is amazing you are able to leave your home at all.
Posted by: Concerned American | November 2, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
“In the White House there is no time for speeches and on-the-job training. Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign and Senator Obama will bring a speech that he gave in 2002. I think that is a significant difference,” the voice of Clinton is heard saying.
Posted by: hillary | November 2, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Don’t hate Homosexuals (matteroffact) I just want the children of this country to be told the truth about the perversion of homosexuality ! I guess if you want to call it hate it is up to you but, kids should not be indocrinated into this perversion in public schools!
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Jwench,
The sexual revolution was happening when aids first hit this country and it just happened to strike the Gay community first. What does your homophobia have to do with this election?
Posted by: Sarah | Nov 2, 2008 6:34:23 PM
You are speaking to the wrong person on that. Joe is the Homophobe not me. Please re-read my posts.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
“They’re committed, they’re committed to John’s notions, but we know what they don’t know. We know that we can do this.”
Yeahhh the US Marines were “committed” to Roosevelt’s notions too, Biden.
McCain barely has anything to do with this race AGAINST you degenerates.
“Alles muss anders sein!”
translation: “change”
Posted by: zak | November 2, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Jwench, you need to be careful. People are starting to confuse you with *gasp* JOE!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Dont’ blame me when Husesiaa Osama wins this election. I bet you a million dollars you won’t be able to find a Obama bumper sticker or a single person who will admit they voted for the Chosen One. They were all fooled by this slick lawyer. Just wait and see.
Posted by: Goerge Washington | November 2, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
(matterfact)I guess you are under the notion that Obama will not support the homosexual agenda but , I have spoke with leaders of his church , and they accept homosexual behavior as normal!They also accept musslim faith as no diff, than Christian !
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Here’s what awaits us if Obama wins:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5971
Posted by: Mike | November 2, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Biden is a moron…no one really cares what he says. Obama will just be a slave to the White establishment..no one wins in this election.
Posted by: chuck | November 2, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Don’t hate Homosexuals (matteroffact) I just want the children of this country to be told the truth about the perversion of homosexuality ! I guess if you want to call it hate it is up to you but, kids should not be indocrinated into this perversion in public schools!
Posted by: Joe | Nov 2, 2008 6:41:24 PM
Why don’t you educate yourself on homosexuality, you know read a book or look it up on the internet. There have been studies done on homosexual males and it is not something they choose. There is a difference in the size of the brain, so it is possibly genetic. They have not really done any one lesbian women.
Maybe you should attend a PFLAG meeting. Your intolerance to those not like you is astonishing for somebody who is supposedly a Christian and quotes the bible.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Such love coming from Obama’s supporters… aren’t you all so mature. The fact is, Obama is not ready to be president, even Joe Biden said that.
Posted by: Timmyyy | November 2, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Just more signs that the GOPers are just disrespectful, spiteful, hate-filled and have no class at all. I think that was so rude to completely disprespect someone who is trying to speak and interrupting those who were trying to hear what Mr. Biden had to say. Go away GOP, go away! Go incite your hate-filled garbage somewhere else. Maybe at your own rallies?! Leave us alone while we vote the way we think is better for this country. Tired of all your lies and hate-filled anger. We don’t need your crap anymore and furthermore don’t want to hear it. If that happened at a McCain rally, those folks would have been hauled away. Just goes to show you how respectful Biden is of freedom of speech. But still those guys were just rude and don’t have any respect. Exactly why I don’t align myself with those type of people, and already voted for a better day in America. Go Obama\Biden 08!
Posted by: lkinopfl | November 2, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Jwench, you need to be careful. People are starting to confuse you with *gasp* JOE!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | Nov 2, 2008 6:46:29 PM
YIKES!! No, I am not that ignorant of other people…lol
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Obama will not unite America, you are naive to believe such. This nation will never be united with a liberal socialist in power who has never been bi-partisan in his life. You people really think this guy is your messiah.
The Dem Congress promised bi-partisanship but what did we receive? Partisanship like we never had seen.
Posted by: Andrew | November 2, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
So the Republicans are “divisive”? What universe are you living in???
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
republicans under the Bush and Cheney stolen administrations have shown their true colors… It is not red of blue..
Posted by: Sport2069 | November 2, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
for the morons who insist that Joe the pumber was a wife beater, then how could a judge award him his son and not his wife! you morons would rather vote for sicko man who went to church for 20 years with a preacher who preach God Da– America. and claims later he did not know about it! how stupid can you obomaniacs be!
Posted by: Louise | November 2, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Mark my words-
We are in trouble if Obama wins
Posted by: Lou | November 2, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
What a stupid term , I guess my fear is for the children and , the country if we continue to accept the values of deviants as the norm. I guess I fear Gods judgement on this country ! I would think a punishment like aids would get peoples attention but, not Sarah. “What you lack is old schoolin” POD
Posted by: Joe the "homophobe" | November 2, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
i cant believe that Obama said he would kill the coal industry! go to drudge and hear it yourself. i think he just lost Pennsylvania for that one. i supported Obama but the more i hear I think I’ll vote for Nader. sorry folks.
Posted by: thicke | November 2, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
“That is why I quoted the New Testament
If you don’t stand against the homosexual agenda to indoctrinat our, children don’t call yourself a Christian!”
Posted by: Joe
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I feel sorry for you Joe, that you are so filled with hate. God does not condone hatred of any kind. Maybe you need to pray a little harder about your own Christianity. Something is missing in your soul!
Posted by: lkinopfl | November 2, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Get over it folks, it’s time that the white man pays back for slavery…you owe us a lot and now we come to collect!
Posted by: CHICAGO | November 2, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Don’t look for a united America if Obama/ACORN manage to snare the election. Many of us are very tired of being called selfish, racist, bitter, unpatriotic Americans because we don’t support an openly socialist, anti-Semetic, wealth redistributor. What Obama hasn’t considered is what will happen when he attempts to disenfranchise the very people who have worked hard, achieved, paid a lot of taxes and generally helped to make this country great. If we didn’t have the guts and know how, we wouldn’t achieved what we have – we are the very people who will oppose his socialist policies loudly and powerfully. The great uniter is nothing but a racist and a radical.
Posted by: Joanne600 | November 2, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Those Republican rowdies can have all the Joes the Plumbers they can. After all there is no surprice that birds of same feather flock together!
But what is said is that all McCain can offer to the suffering Americans to resolve their many-fold crisis is Joe the Plumber. This is a clear manifestation of McCain’s void in ideas and intelligence.
McCain cannot rely on his past glories to win this election. He has to come out with more than Joe the Plumber to convince the American voters why they should vote for him.
Posted by: JISantiago | November 2, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
“Republicans do seem pretty full of themselves, don’t they?”
Wait til Wednesday…then call us “full of President Elect McCain!”
Posted by: Mike! | November 2, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
lkinopfl – So you already voted?
How many times?
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Why does Barack hate his family? He wants to take our money but he won’t use his fortunes to help his impoverished relatives. That is sick.
Posted by: PoliticalDookie | November 2, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Such love coming from Obama’s supporters… aren’t you all so mature. The fact is, Obama is not ready to be president, even Joe Biden said that.
Posted by: Timmyyy | Nov 2, 2008 6:54:28 PM
I guess you think it’s ok for the parrots to keep bashing everyone who is not like them. (Gays, blacks, muslims, etc.)I won’t stand for it and most of us Democrats are tired of this kind of nonsense.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
In the Middle of a War,they allowed a candidate to fill their brain with hateing GW..the only President protected them for 8 years and what did Obama do? ZILTCH – ran his mouth
and kept the hatred up against our President.You will find out Obama is nothing.He runs his mouth to all that will listen.Obama is all for self,He doesn’t care about anyone.You will learn American’s.I wont have to tell you this.
Posted by: Reap what You Sow | November 2, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
In the Middle of a War,they allowed a candidate to fill their brain with hateing GW..the only President protected them for 8 years and what did Obama do? ZILTCH – ran his mouth
and kept the hatred up against our President.You will find out Obama is nothing.He runs his mouth to all that will listen.Obama is all for self,He doesn’t care about anyone.You will learn American’s.I wont have to tell you this.
Posted by: Reap what You Sow | November 2, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
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They also accept musslim faith as no diff, than Christian !
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Posted by: Joe | Nov 2, 2008 6:50:16 PM
They aren’t. Both are no different than any other belief system that places non-existent supernatural beings above all else. Only the details change. That is why you are free to practice whatever belief system you like, and others are free to practice anything they like, nor none at all. Intolerance is just another form of hate, something you seem to be full of.
Posted by: theman | November 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Posted by: Joe | Nov 2, 2008 6:41:24 PM
“Why don’t you educate yourself on homosexuality,”
Joe,
Maybe you should do a little research as we have 60 years of Social Science that says sexual preferences are learned at a very young age. There is no science that says otherwise. Show me your scientific journal. The point here is people do not want their children indoctrinated on the joys of the homosexual political movement in the public school system as is being done today.
Posted by: bobnews | November 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
And the democrats DON’T divide? Have you not heard of the class warfare that Obama promotes? I’m so glad to learn that I’m selfish and, according to Biden, I’m unpatriotic because I don’t want to pay more taxes. It’s our money we work for and we pay enough in taxes. We want to spend the rest of our money the way we want.
Joe the Plumber a wife beater? Don’t throw stones in a glass house – your guy is Obama the adulterer. How about that Vera Baker who Michelle banished to Martinique, for a pretty sum?
Posted by: Holly Mead | November 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
—Obama will not unite America, you are naive to believe such. This nation will never be united with a liberal socialist in power who has never been bi-partisan in his life. You people really think this guy is your messiah.—
Then what do you call what’s going on now. Republicans are coming in droves to support him. There was even a picture of a man’s house yielding a confederate flag with an Obama sign sitting in the front yard. People who have never voted Democrat are voting democrat. So get over it.
As I can recall no one calls John McCain a traitor for giving intel to his captors in Vietnam. No one calls him dumb because he graduated 5th from last at the naval academy. No one calls him a fraud because of his assoiations with Keating. No one calls him a terrorist for giving Rahid Khalidi nearly 500,000, when Bill Ayers gave $80,000 and Obama gave none. No one calls him a cheater and an unfaithful husband for what he did to his first wife. No one even goes as far as calling him a liar- AT OBAMA’S RALLIES. But you hear such obscenities from the McCain camp. Who do I call divisive? Why don’t you take a big whooping guess.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Those Republican rowdies can have all the Joes the Plumbers they can. After all there is no surprise that birds of same feather flock together!
But what is sad is that all McCain can offer to the suffering Americans to resolve their many-fold crisis is Joe the Plumber. This is a clear manifestation of McCain’s void in ideas and intelligence.
McCain cannot rely on his past glories to win this election. He has to come out with more than Joe the Plumber to convince the American voters why they should vote for him.
Posted by: JISantiago | November 2, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
“i cant believe that Obama said he would kill the coal industry! go to drudge and hear it yourself. i think he just lost Pennsylvania for that one. i supported Obama but the more i hear I think I’ll vote for Nader. sorry folks.”
Posted by: thicke
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You should really try and get the whole facts on what Obama said about the coal industry thicke. Obama said that he was going to hold coal power companies more accountable for the emissions they sspout into the environment. What’s wrong with that? Plus did you know that coal companies are blasting off tops of mountains to get more coal? I’m not saying it’s wrong for them to use better ways to obtain the coal, but we can’t just blow up every mountain in America just to get to coal. We have to be respectful of Nature and our Planet or it will turn on us. Maybe you haven’t been paying attention to what pollution is doing to our environment!
Posted by: lkinopfl | November 2, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
response to 5 pin [ pinhead ]
I.Q. interesting both myself & wife are supporting McCain / Palin we have I.Q s of 149 & 157 , to make such a blanket statement like that shows real class. We wonder why there is such division in “our” Nation? comments like that of 5 pin demonstrate why !
Posted by: gww | November 2, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
The problem with all you obama worshipers is that you think the Dems are without blemish.Here’s a bit of a wake up call, they are the ones that got us in the economic downfall. Bad mortgages brought down the market,but I don’t expect any of you or them to admit to it, even with all the video of them refusing to stop back in 03 & 05.The division began after the 2000 election when Bush won. All we heard for the next eight years was hate speech and disrespect because you Dems were sore losers!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary | November 2, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Posted by: Joanne600 | Nov 2, 2008 7:01:55 PM
Watch out Obama is the bogey man…BOOOO(McCain forgot to tell you that)
You repeated the Rove playbook very nicely. You get an E for effort.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
JISantiago – “McCain cannot rely on his past glories to win this election.” Wow, what did they teach you about history that a citizen should count a lifetime of service to his country as “past glories”?
Stunning, simply stunning.
Maybe he knows a little (a lot) more about life and the world than Obama, and he certainly knows more than you.
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
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Here’s a bit of a wake up call, they are the ones that got us in the economic downfall.
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Sorry, but that ‘wakeup’ call happened back in 2000 when the banking industry was deregulated and allowed for the first time since the 20′s to package and sell mortgages to investors.
Revisionist history notwithstanding, it is a shame that there are so many ignorant fools in this country.
Posted by: benji | November 2, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
If you want to find out a person’s IQ, without actually having them take a test, just ask them whom the support in this election.
Once again, someone trying to sound intelligent uses whom, the objective case when WHO the subjective case is correct. And you were saying???
Posted by: Lizzie | November 2, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
—I’m not saying it’s wrong for them to use better ways to obtain the coal, **********but we can’t just blow up every mountain in America just to get to coal.*********—-
LOL!!!!!!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
For Nik: You wrote: “Only the ill-informed and ignorant support McCain. If you want to find out a person’s IQ, without actually having them take a test, just ask them whom the support in this election.]]
I would place more value on your verbal dribble if it were phrased properly. I have four university degrees, did you pass Head Start? Dubious.
Posted by: Pegmak | November 2, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
I’m always amazed when Dems complain about Republican behavior! All the protestors were doing is exercising their constitutionally protected rights. Democrats hang Republicans in effigy, post pictures on the web of them with blood dripping from their mouth like monsters and pictures of monkeys defecating on their head, cuss them and shove/assault them (read HillBuzz.com) and other very disgusting things.
I don’t know if Joe the Plumber is a wife beater or not, but how did you learn that? By Dems breaking the law and going into private records of private citizens to dig up dirt on them!
Speaking of breaking the law, did you hear about Obama raffling off the right to be near Himself on election night? Another illegal act that’s not likely to be mentioned in the MSM, much less prosecuted.
Go McCain/Palin, the only REAL Americans running for office!
Posted by: SweetAlmondVerbena | November 2, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Hmm, I believe we’ve seen protestors at McCain rallies, haven’t we? So why point the finger at Republicans? Did I see someone from PINK protesting as McCain was speaking AT HIS OWN CONVENTION?
So let’s not get so haughty and nasty. Protesting is not just something that McCain supporters do and Biden knows that.
Posted by: Mary S Saphr | November 2, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
If you are under 25 and you aren’t a liberal Democrat voting for Obama, you are heartless. If you are over 25 and voting for Obama, you are a brainless, Kool-Aid drinking loon, who seriously has no economic/business acumen at all.
Posted by: ForgetReality | November 2, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
I am a student at Florida State and know some of the students who were protesting. While some retain their decency, others have been cruel and ruthless in their attacks on senator Obama and his campaign. Some of their chalking on campus sidewalks was even pressure washed away by school officials due to its offensive sexist and racist nature.
The farther ahead Obama gets in the Florida polls the more desperate and indecent they become.
Posted by: Heather Cook | November 2, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
John McCain and Past Glories:
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“John has made a pact with the devil,” says Lincoln Chafee, the former GOP senator, who has been appalled at his one-time colleague’s readiness to sacrifice principle for power. Chafee and McCain were the only Republicans to vote against the Bush tax cuts. They locked arms in opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. And they worked together in the “Gang of 14,” which blocked some of Bush’s worst judges from the federal bench.
“On all three — sadly, sadly, sadly — McCain has flip-flopped,” Chafee says. And forget all the “Country First” sloganeering, he adds. “McCain is putting himself first. He’s putting himself first in blinking neon lights.”
Posted by: gwb | November 2, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
PEGMAK… calm down, I thought the G.O.P. wasn’t elitist
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Biden is a joke… funny, at his rallies he can’t even fill a room, but at Palin’s rallies, they have to turn people away because it is sooo overcrowded.. at all of McCain and Palins rallies there are protesters.. i watched on tv before the RNC convention people in the street protesting and ABC happily videotaping it, some of the protesters were destroying property, just shows how classy democrats protesters are..there was a study released by PEW, it stated that republicans are typically more happier people than the democrats.. think about it. Dems are happy when things are going bad in our world, and pissed when things are going good. will ABC report the good things that are happening in Iraq? will ABC report Obama’s comment about bankrupting the coal industry? the coal industry supports about 49 percent of our economy… after 18 months, who is the real barack Obama?
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Joe the Plumber a wife beater? Don’t throw stones in a glass house – your guy is Obama the adulterer. How about that Vera Baker who Michelle banished to Martinique, for a pretty sum?
Posted by: Holly Mead | Nov 2, 2008 7:05:17 PM
Then what is McCain? Left his first wife after a car accident for Cindy . Don’t throw stones it just makes you look pathetic.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
A Hip Hop Candidate in the Middle of A War.I can’t believe the Liberal’s would stoop this low.What is the world coming too.It’s your fault your risky loans went in decline,It’s your own fault
you wont work,But yet you sit there and blame our President for not running your own life properly.You people need to get real and stop Blameing President Bush cause you wont rise up off your lazy butts and get an education.Stop depending on the government and get your degree.This is sickening and Pathetic.Everytime you fall you think you can use the government.Well Wake up.
It’s time all of you learn,Stop living over the money you don’t have.And stop signing up for Laons you can’t pay back.American’s are not so smart as I thought.Trying to elect a hip hop candidate that has no military experience or can’t make military decisions in the middle of a war.While all our lives are at risk while we’re still at war..May God Help Us
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Help Us Lord!
Posted by: Reap what You Sow | November 2, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Ever hear of the stasi? If not go look it up, cause that’s what you got coming. For those of you that are saying this country well no longer be divided once the Ol’ Mighty Barry gets elected then you got something else coming your way.
Posted by: Alex Malyarovich | November 2, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
___If you are under 25 and you aren’t a liberal Democrat voting for Obama, you are heartless. If you are over 25 and voting for Obama, you are a brainless, Kool-Aid drinking loon, who seriously has no economic/business acumen at all.____
Sir, Warren friggin’ Buffet endorsed Obama, Oprah, Spielberg, Colin Powell, Madame Albright- check out all the friggin’ economists who have endorsed him- and I’m not talking about that stupid petition going around. I mean Nobel Laureates have endorsed this man. While you guys get Bush, Cheney, and a bunch of other hacks who can’t seem to hold it together long enough to keep in their contempt of Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
– It’s your own fault
you wont work,But yet you sit there and blame our President for not running your own life properly.You people need to get real and stop Blameing President Bush cause you wont rise up off your lazy butts and get an education –
Rather presumptive of you to claim knowledge of others educational or socio-economic status, isn’t it?
Maybe you can climb down off your soapbox and articulate how exactly McCain differs from Bush on platform issues in any significant way. Being older and less educated does not count.
Posted by: Concerned American | November 2, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Lincoln Chafee is not now, nor has ever been, a friend of the GOP. He is a liberal at heart, and I have not one ounce of respect for his opinions.
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
I think it’s ironic that the democrats are pointing fingers at the republicans for “dirty tactics” and while I agree I think it’s also a case of the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended). I have some real issues with Obama/Biden. For starters he gave $800,000 to ACORN and no one seems to talk about that even though they’ve registered people to vote who are dead? Then there’s the Biden interviews where he was asked hard questions and was completely dismisive and rude (only 2 questions were out of line). So because he’s asked hard questions and doesn’t have a good answer the campaign blacklists them? Wow I thought this was America not China!
Posted by: Arizonan | November 2, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Get over it folks, it’s time that the white man pays back for slavery…you owe us a lot and now we come to collect!This is from Chicago
to chicago-
do you know why the Civil war was fought? to fight the south against slavery, and the souths used to be democrats. white men fought to die so the blacks could be free.. remember, it was african men who sold african villagers to the white people. so we owe you nothing. actually, you owe the democrats because they said blacks have no hope so give them SSI. slavery ended a long time ago, thanks to the white people who sacrificed their lives for you all. i am sick and tired of the blacks blaming the white for their misery and slavery. i suggest you look to Africa, the blacks are still having blacks as slaves.
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Biden is a joke… funny, at his rallies he can’t even fill a room, but at Palin’s rallies, they have to turn people away because it is sooo overcrowded
Posted by: GoPalin | Nov 2, 2008 7:17:26 PM
Of course they are packed with those that support her vicious foul lies. Evidence of that is right here on this board. If you want to see the dumbing of America, look no further than the Republicans.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Get over it folks, it’s time that the white man pays back for slavery…you owe us a lot and now we come to collect!
Posted by: CHICAGO | Nov 2, 2008 7:01:15 PM
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
We paid with the lives of our ancestors who died in the Civil War. We’ve paid with 75 years of welfare to blacks. We’ve paid with affirmative action. Most recently we’ve paid with the demise of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and the collapse of the economy due to bad mortages. How much more should we pay given that there is not a person left alive in the US who was ever a slave?
Posted by: Mary S Saphr | November 2, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
The reason all of you liberals hate joe the plumber is that he asked a good question & osama messed up & told the truth accidentally. that he wants to tax working people to death. “spread the wealth around”? that is socialism pure & simple. instead of attacking joe, why don’t you just answer the question? why do you want a socialist for your president?
america is NOT a socialist country! but liberals want to turn it into one. this is not only insane, but dangerous!
Posted by: Joe The Plumber | November 2, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
If that Marxist fraud and liar Barak
Hussein Obama bin Laden wins, he won’t be my President and if he takes the country to the extreme left which he most likely will try to do, then there will be civil war, i.e. a Second Revolution for our Idependence.
Posted by: GreyCoat | November 2, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
I just read that Joe the Plumber has gotten death threats on a radio station in San Francisco – you Dems are SO classy!
Posted by: SweetAlmondVerbena | November 2, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Matteroffacts? Should be MatterofOpinion. I can line up just as many brilliant people who believe that Obama’s plan will destroy the country.
Go back and study The Great Depression. “Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it.”
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Republican puke bags.
Posted by: Kudzu | November 2, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Posted by: Arizonan | Nov 2, 2008 7:24:14 PM
I find it amusing that the only ones who have actually been charged with voter fraud are the Republicans. YPM for starters.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
You know what? After eight years of democrat retards calling Bush a liar.. Eight years of “not my president!”.. Eight years of ranting that Bush stole elections.. I’m giving the Democrats as good as they gave if Obama wins. He won’t be my president. And I’ll oppose everything he tries to do, just because its him trying to do it. Sound familiar, Bush Derangement Syndrome sufferers? I find it hilarious to hear Democrats whine about divisiveness after their atrocious behavior for the past eight years. You reap what you sow.
Posted by: dummycrats | November 2, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Effective Foreign Policy
Joe Biden said in Seattle, “Mark my words. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy….. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.” Vladimir Lenin said, “Probe with a bayonet: if you meet steel, stop. If you meet mush, then push.”
Under Kennedy we barely avoided nuclear war, and he mandated our military commitment to Vietnam. In those cases adversaries reverenced their homelands, and present positions of power enough to mitigate probing when facing resolute actions. In this case, the Wahhabi/ Salafi heresy rejects traditional Muslim allegiances to family, tribe, ethnicity, and country, embracing murder and desolation for both means and ends. In this case, the Twelfth Imam Shiite heresy, now dominating Iran religious/ political life, envisions utter chaos preceding the imam arrival. The Caliphate sought and Twelfth Imam arrival both postulate catastrophic regional and worldwide devastation. Cherishing no particular human or physical remnant leaves rogue states and terrorists immune to diplomacy, containment or retaliation.
Abominable weapons technologies and inventories, not bayonets, provide capabilities now permeating global locations. F.B.I. Director Mueller reports enough highly enriched uranium worldwide to arm thousands of nuclear weapons, and to fuel a seller’s market in the so-called atomic bazaar.
Chemical and biological agents can emanate from dual-use facilities and cottage industries. The biological pathogens, which decimated Europe, remain ready for exploitation one step away in our food chain. Open societies provide excellent delivery means where 2,000 to 20,000 people work and travel within closed HVAC systems. Complex fresh water and food distribution systems invite chemical and biological intrusions.
Terrorist converts include engineers and scientists easily accommodating academic excellence within cancerous philosophies appended to Muslim faith. They share deviate human characteristics similar to those enabling Himmler to officer S.S. units with accomplished professionals for the Holocaust, and slaughter of Slavs, Jews and Soviets during Barbarossa.
For this coming test, Obama’s foreign policy centerpiece involves commitment to talks without preconditions. Carter’s reasoning with the Ayatollah Khomeini, as men of faith, concerning the Iranian hostages illustrated this approach. Adversarial countries, now unconstrained by Western proprieties, invest traditional diplomacy with Oriental/Asian principles threatening or executing violence.
Adversaries like Assad, Ahmadinejad, and terrorist surrogates would manage Obama’s open negotiations into submissive posturing; compromising positions allies would otherwise support. Patient dissembling would exact concessions in exchange for photo ops and sound bites coordinated to U.S. news and election cycles.
Unless offered compelling enticements, or confronting unanswerable force, their best strategy remains endless mendacity and violence, while we debate national interests into ever-narrower parameters making allied support ever more conditional. The last Iranian nuclear weapons NIE initiated such self-destructive debate drawing Persian Gulf countries closer to Iran.
Effective war diplomacy against emerging threats will be methodical, covert, multi-faceted, and predictably lethal. Opponents we face initiate and respond to diplomacy residing on a continuum including war. Talks, conferences and economic measures serve as war without bloodshed; war and terrorism serve as diplomacy with bloodshed. Intelligence, propaganda, and espionage invigorate all options.
We cannot afford administrations finding war a bewildering, tragic, accidental consequence of shattering attacks, when failed diplomacy descends into appeasement. A world unrepentant before Western diplomatic nuances requires leaders who work problems in Oriental/Asian terms to retain allies against the intimidation, and bestiality of terrorism. If force must discredit an opponent, deliberate battle must first be prepared by measures consistently cultivating internal and international isolation.
John McCain understands primary homeland defense against global terrorism demands a strong forward-deployed military. His war diplomacy promotes counterinsurgency tactics enabling countries to defeat terrorists, promote moderate constituencies, and create the social and economic infrastructure extinguishing chaos.
Sustaining initiatives of African, Oriental and Asian countries brings Global War On Terror (GWOT) victory by frustrating plans, breaking alliances and fracturing organizations of Islamic fundamentalist jihadists. Severing terror organizations into ever less effective units, that possess neither cities, nor countries nor armies, means bin Laden and successor sociopaths forfeit credibility and power. These itinerant prophets then live out unnaturally shortened lives as pariahs, and no longer attract acolytes embracing self-immolation. Rogue states find an effective weapon for regional domination impotent, and their power jeopardized.
Posted by: Nolan Nelson | November 2, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
People, people, people WAKE UP!!! Did no one watch 60 min last week? The start of this mess on wall street began in 2000 WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS STILL PRESIDENT! Both he and Congress started deregualting wall street. So please spare the rest of us the rhetoric that Nancy Pelosi spews. Democrats are as much to blame as Repbulicans!
Posted by: Arizonan | November 2, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Why is it that the dimocraps can tear apart “Joe the Plumber”, but can’t take critism of “The One”?
Joe is not running for President, Obama is…why not spend some of that energy looking at his record? If you had spent half the time and effort looking at Obama you would not be voting for him.
Posted by: ncgma | November 2, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Looks like the Kos Kooks are here again. Don’t you folks have your own vile board you can post on? Spread the vile, that’s you liberals. Lame.
Posted by: BlameAmericaLast | November 2, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
To the person with 3 days to decide, it’s a no thinker??? You will not receive higher taxes on more or less 200,000 or maybe 150,000 or better yet 100,000 income, you will get free health care, jobs for you and anybody that qualifies, and a higher respect by Germany, Middle East, and well not sure which others, wink, wink, wink, pinky promise. Then you have McCain who will give you your own money to choose how to spend it and will REFORM the out of control spending in the Government, keep our country safe from our greatest friends in the middle east who hate us, and stimulate engineering on new resource fuels for now and future. Back to the Obama thing, just remember how much OBAMA has spent on this election ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!! This is the biggest RED FLAG not to vote for him, he hasn’t tried to rein in his out of control spending on his campaign, nor has he cut off the donation fountain. So how many promises will he have to keep to that ONE BILLION DOLLAR DEBT??? Not the normal citizens, to the force of that ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!! OUR Presidency shouldn’t be for sale and we shouldn’t allow him to purchase it. McCain is not Bush, it’s OBAMA’s way of linking 2 Republicans together, but these two are far from the same. Notice when Obama is linked to his infamous associates he doesn’t like it, can’t stand it but yet he pulls this on others? makes one ponder? If one is guilty by sure association, then OBAMA is like the POWERFUL DEMOCRATS In WASHINGTON the ones who, helped in our Financial crisis. Yes those few MAJORITY since 2006. Voting for Obama will mean more crisis for us, and our government since he can’t rein in spending and has such a long budget agenda to only be financed by the rich, which goes back to the 100,000 income group. NOBAMA!!!!!!
Posted by: Mel | November 2, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
If that Marxist fraud and liar Barak Hussein Obama bin Laden wins, he won’t be my President and if he takes the country to the extreme left which he most likely will try to do, then there will be civil war, i.e. a Second Revolution for our Independence.
Posted by: GreyCoat | November 2, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
GWB, McCain is making certain compromises for the same reason that Obama is: he believes that he can do more for the country than his opponent, but needs to get into the office to do it.
So, it is not what the candidates are doing right NOW that matters as much as looking at their overall track records, plus their friendships, plus there language.
If you relate to the most liberal Senator in the USA who is a complete novice socialist/marxist product of Chicago politics, with friends like Ayers, Wright, Farrakhan, Kahlidi, and Rezko, you are comfortable with Obama.
If you are a capitalist comfortable with a decorated, experienced veteran like McCain who has made a few mistakes that he has admitted to, and who has worked both sides of the aisle (walking his talk), and who understands EXPANDING an economy and not redistributing it, you are probably more comfortable with McCain.
May the best man win.
Posted by: TheTruth | November 2, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Jwench- really? who told you? the good folks at ABC? i mean she packs up to 10l to 30k of people.. keep drinking the kool-aid.
meanwhile the Obama campaign has to hide then release and then hide biden over and over again because he is a joke.
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Another failed government program. Reading the posts of the Obama sweat shop workers is a clear illustration that the “No Child Left Behind” program isn’t doing it’s job.
Posted by: Bill the retiree | November 2, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Ben,
I’ve seen lots of coverage about hecklers and protesters at McCain / Palin rallies. Palin always tells them to stay, because “maybe they will learn something” (as if)! The media are not biased about this. If they were I wouldn’t know about the protesters, because I can guarantee you I would never personally attend a Palin rally. People who want to believe in that there’s a liberal media conspiracy irritate me. They will ignore news coverage just so that they can make these bogus claims. And most of it comes from a group of people who have had FOX news batting for Republicans for the last 12 years!
Posted by: Gretchen | November 2, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Jwench – You guys do find voter fraud amusing. You engage in it because you know the only way Obama could get elected is if your side CHEATS! And cheat they do! Something to be VERY proud of, indeed!
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
I just read that Joe the Plumber has gotten death threats on a radio station in San Francisco – you Dems are SO classy!
Posted by: SweetAlmondVerbena | Nov 2, 2008 7:26:59 PM
You people believe anything don’t you. Is this another Ashley Todd story?
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Obama. . . .the Marxist Fraud.
Use your brain. . . vote McCain!
Posted by: Susan | November 2, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
dummycrats… well if Obama becomes president, no doubt Democrats will have a significant majority. And I don’t think people will care too much if you go to Canada or Mexico either, eh? Adios!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Whoopi Goldberg admitted that Elisabeth form the view gets the most death threats…’
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Words out people,..the obama camp has sent all it’s on-line trollers to hit all the on-line polls and all the chat rooms,blog and news articles.they are trying to cause chaos and make you think this election is already in the bag for obama! It’s not even close America,..just get out and vote November 4TH…DON”T LET THEM GET TO YOU,..LET THEM GET YOU TO THE POLLS TO VOTE!!
Posted by: chico | November 2, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Its sad that so many people in the United States are still communist. Obama is doing the job interview for the highest position in the land and cannot even pass a background check. His associations with all his communist buddies would dissqualify anyone else from this position. He wants to change our National Anthem to something like “I’d like to teach the world to sing”. He says our National Anthem is too combative. He is the AntiChrist. He does not even care about his own family, an aunt living in poverty in Boston, a brother living in Kenya homeless, he was not even born in the United States he was born in Kenya but he will have to stand in front of his maker one day like all the rest of us so I wonder if he will lie to God too..
Posted by: wenawolf | November 2, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Biden didn’t mention Obama’s hopes of taxing those people making 42k like Obama proposed. CK his record-voted 94 times to increase tax. If Obama gets in, he’ll tax us all & blame it on fin. crisis that DEMS B. Frank, Chris Dodd, ACORN and oBAMA helped create. Clinton said americans can’t afford on the job training, Biden called him Naive, will be tested. FARRAKHUN,REV. WRIGHT, KHALIDI, AYERS=ANTI-ISREAL,ANTI-AMERICA,ANTI-WHITE=OBAMA
Posted by: washpabc7 | November 2, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
– Go back and study The Great Depression. –
Most have.. it was in a large part the result of what Hoover coined his ‘trickle down’ taxation policy. Regan later tried it, under the new name of Reganomics, and managed to raise the national debt by more than all presidents before him, from under $1 trillion to over $2.6 trillion, and also managed to set the record for the highest unemployment rate this country has ever seen. Continued experiments with this form of taxation has proved equally dismal. Bush managed to take a balanced budget and in his first year raise the deficit by $133 billion. Continued tax cuts have set not once, but twice record single yearly deficit increases, and this year has yet been considered. All the while, unemployment hit 6.1% in August.
Posted by: Concerned American | November 2, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Check out this audio of Obama praying with Muslims…. still don’t think he’s a muslim?
wwwyoutubecom/watch?v=l5737qtNpFc
Replace the with a .
Posted by: nickchop | November 2, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
REPOST THIS EVERYWHERE!!
the obama camp has them working overtime until election…
“Words out people,..the obama camp has sent all it’s on-line trollers to hit all the on-line polls and all the chat rooms,blog and news articles.they are trying to cause chaos and make you think this election is already in the bag for obama! It’s not even close America,..just get out and vote November 4TH…DON”T LET THEM GET TO YOU,..LET THEM GET YOU TO THE POLLS TO VOTE!!”
Posted by: Chico | November 2, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
A “hat trick” is something done 3 times in a row.
Joe Biden is a moron.
Posted by: Steve | November 2, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Hey idiot Foley
i am an independent voting for Obama who works 70 hours a week and makes a lot of money. I am happy to give a little more for our country.
People like you and the rest of the right wind nutbags on here are pathetic. You should all move to Alaska or some other red state and be one big brainless nation. That why you can all sit around together and spew your racist intolerant stupidity and have one big nutjob lovefest.
Posted by: idaho independent | November 2, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
who is Wendy Button???
she was Kerry, edwards and Obama’s speech writer. she recently made the switch to McCain. she said that watching the dems really try to destroy Palin was disgusting. they did it to Hillary and they are doing to Palin. now she is getting death threats…
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
obama will not be my president, if you think the country will come together after this election, you are naive, its only going to get worse, to many left swinging freakazoids running the democrats for any rational freedom loving person to accept them as legitmate leaders for them. The far right and far left have ruined this country.
Posted by: larry | November 2, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Gretchen:
If there’s no media bias, I’m sure you know about the 2006/Obama/Odinga/Kenya connection. I’m sure you know what Obama was doing in Hawaii (‘taking care’ of that pesky birth certificate problem) and a host of other stories that are active on the web.
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
party test… Just say one of two words that come to mind first… Republican or Democrat.
1. Highest Jail enrollment Dem
2. Highest Educational level Rep
3. Dope and crack users Dem
4. Unwed mothers Dem
5. Most on Welfare Dem
6. Started most Businesses Rep
7. Biggest taxers Dem
8. Gay blades Dem
9. Gay Marriage proponents Dem
10.Most illigit children Dem
11.Most scientists Rep
12.Death Row inmates Dem
13.Spread the wealth Dem
14.Make the wealth Rep
15.Helpless Dem
16.Take self-responsibility Rep
17.Cheat on their wives Dem
18.Abandon their children Dem
19.Most children different dads Dem
20.Union thug Dem
21.Exec of major business Rep
22.Most Doctors Rep
23.Most CPAs Rep
24.Most Soldiers Rep
25.Most deserters Dem
26.Street people Dem
27.Illegal aliens Dem
28.Trash Dem
29.Fake Birth certificate Obama
Posted by: Lordrobot | November 2, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Jwench – You guys do find voter fraud amusing. You engage in it because you know the only way Obama could get elected is if your side CHEATS! And cheat they do! Something to be VERY proud of, indeed!
Posted by: joyceonamission | Nov 2, 2008 7:32:41 PM
No I do not find voter fraud amusing. What I do find amusing is that you Republicans don’t look at the fact that your people are engaged in voter fraud and have actually been charged.You choose to ignore that fact.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Words out people,..the obama camp has sent all it’s on-line trollers to hit all the on-line polls and all the chat rooms,blog and news articles.they are trying to cause chaos and make you think this election is already in the bag for obama! It’s not even close America,..just get out and vote November 4TH…DON”T LET THEM GET TO YOU,..LET THEM GET YOU TO THE POLLS TO VOTE!!—
CHICO-
wait i thought it vote day was Nov 5th??
yes that is what the Obama campaign is trying to do, plant seeds of doubts in republicans nto discourage them. people do not fall for it, do not listen to the MSM, they are in the tank for Obama.. save your country, vote McCain/Palin
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
JWench why are you voting for Obama? Just wondering.
Posted by: Arizonan | November 2, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Great name, Holden Caulfield–seems I’ve read that before. Hmmm very original!
I never read any posts about Michelle Obama or Jill Biden–wonder why–could it be that the media leaves them alone or just reports warm and fuzzy stories? I will be so happy to see these vicious, name-calling, lying, bickering posts over.
Posted by: jonnie36 | November 2, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Kahlidi=Florida for McCain
Obama Coal Comments ( http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry ) = Ohio, PA, Virginia and Indiana for McCain
Obama Close ties to Farrahkan=all of the South for McCain.
Obama’s July 2nd, 2008 “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” comment will deliver any state that is just a little bit worried about what Obama is meaning by that… OMG…
Things are looking better all the time…
Posted by: TheTruth | November 2, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Concerned American- Sadly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Barack still blows coke….and he had a gay lover named larry sinclair.
What a good example he’ll make for the nations Kids.
Posted by: Michelle. | November 2, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
CHICO-
wait i thought it vote day was Nov 5th??
lol,..oh,..yeah,..I forgot.
Posted by: Chico | November 2, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
ALSO On OBAMA keeping the USA safe?? Jimmy Cater couldn’t do it, and well. OBAMA has never been a military man and well he’s never really stuck it out on anything, but his ONE BILLION DOLLAR ELECTION Campaign. He couldn’t even keep his promise to ILL to stay in the senate and do his duty before jumping into his political career as running man of the WH.. Folks why are we allowing this man with no tack record and broken promises become a President?? It’s because he is clever at brain washing and manipulations of the media. (ONE BILLION STRONG) Ask yourself will you be comfortable with less freedoms in the supposed free US of A??? What about freedom of Speech? Arms? your money?? Who is Obama kidding? The Americans are smarter than he thinks? Right?
Posted by: Mel | November 2, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
We will never stand with the Democrats, the Looters. Soon people will ask “Who is John Gaut?”. And, then you will realize that the acheivers hold this world up not the parasites.
Posted by: G5M3A2B4 | November 2, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
in Miami, Cuban Americans have been protesting a Obama presidency. they fled Cuba because they heard the same bullcrap that Obama is giving us now, and look at where Cuba is.. i mean Castro endorses Obama…
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
For those of you simple minds still talking about Acorn John McCain has an Acorn mess of his own in the form of Nathan Sproul. Keith O covered it. In fact one of the guys registering voters was teraing up registering democrats. Now, that’s the cat that caught JM’s tongue. Oh and by the way, I doubt Mickey Mouse and Jimmy Johns will go and vote- ACTUAL voter fraud. What EMPLOYEES of Acorn were doing is what we call VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD and only the employees not the employer get penalized.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
“i am an independent voting for Obama who works 70 hours a week and makes a lot of money.” – I didn’t know you made alot of money working for the Obama campaign blog squad- then again, 12 bucks and hour is alot of money for you people….especially if you add 2% of the income of those who have real jobs the Obama plan….
Posted by: true-man | November 2, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
MY MY – SEEMS THE FURTHER MCCAIN SINKS IN THE POLLS, THE MORE RABID RIGHT START FOAMING AT THE MOUTH. TRUELY FUN TO WATCH AS THEY TWITCH AND SQUIRM THROWING OUT WHATEVER BS THEY HAVE IN HOPES THAT THE STUPID OUT THERE SOMEWHERE WILL LATCH ON TO IT. DONT WORRY FOLKS. IT WILL BE OVER SOON ENOUGH AND YOU WE CAN ALL GET ON WITH OUR LIVES.
PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA – GET USED TO IT!
Posted by: BOO | November 2, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
to the obama supporters, really, i am curious.. why are you voting for Obama? name 4 things he has done as state senator? and no using the MSM talking points
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Obama-Farrakhan Ties Are Close, Ex-Farrakhan Aide Says
November 1, 2008
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman
A former top deputy to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan tells Newsmax that Barack Obama’s ties to the black nationalist movement in Chicago run deep, and that for many years the two men have had “an open line between them” to discuss policy and strategy, either directly or through intermediaries.
“Remember that for years, if you were a politician in Chicago, you had to have some type of relationship with Louis Farrakhan. You had to. If you didn’t, you would be ostracized out of black Chicago,” said Dr. Vibert White Jr., who spent most of his adult life as a member and ultimately top officer of the Nation of Islam.
White broke with the group in 1995 and is now a professor of African-American history at the University of Central Florida in Orlando.
White said Obama was “part of the Chicago scene” where Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. and radicals would go to each other’s events and support each other’s causes.
“Even though Chicago is the third-largest city in the country, within the black community, the political and militant nationalist community is very small. So it wouldn’t be uncommon for [Obama and Farrakhan] to show up at events together, or at least be there and communicate with each other,” White told Newsmax.
The Anti-Defamation League has denounced Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam as a “hate group.”
Farrakhan has called Jews “bloodsuckers,” “satanic” and accused them of running the slave trade. He has labeled gays as “degenerates.” In a 2006 speech, the ADL again condemned Farrakhan when he said: “These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength. … It’s the wicked Jews the false Jews that are promoting lesbianism, homosexuality. It’s wicked Jews, false Jews that make it a crime for you to preach the word of God, then they call you homophobic!”
Obama was careful to “denounce” Farrakhan’s comments – but not the man — during the Democratic primary season earlier this year, but only after Hillary Clinton called him out for benefiting from Farrakhan’s support.
Farrakhan endorsed Obama in a videotaped speech to his followers at Mosque Miryam in Chicago in February. “You are the instruments that God is gonna use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth,” Farrakhan said.
He told the crowd that Obama was the new “messiah.” See Video: Farrakhan Endorses Obama, Calls Him Messiah.
Once the news media and the Clinton campaign got hold of those comments from Farrakhan, demands mounted from all sides that Obama “renounce” Farrakhan.
But as he has done repeatedly throughout this campaign, Obama was careful to parse his words.
“You know, I have been very clear in my denunciation of Minister Farrakhan’s anti-Semitic comments,” he said during one appearance on “Meet the Press.” “I think that they are unacceptable and reprehensible.”
Obama hastened to point out that Farrakhan had been praising him as “an African-American who seems to be bringing the country together. I obviously can’t censor him, but it is not support that I sought. And we’re not doing anything, I assure you, formally or informally with Minister Farrakhan.”
But Obama, once again, was less than candid.
In 1995, according to a profile of Obama that appeared in the Chicago Reader newspaper, Obama “took time off from attending campaign coffees to attend October’s Million Man March in Washington, D.C.”
At the time, Obama was running for the Illinois Senate from Chicago’s South Side, a seat he won after getting surrogates to challenge the signatures on nominating petitions for his chief rival, the incumbent Alice Palmer.
The march, which fell far short of attracting the million men it advertised, was organized by Farrakhan and by Obama’s then-pastor, the anti-white black nationalist Wright.
Obama spoke at length with the Chicago Reader upon his return from the Million Man March. “What I saw was a powerful demonstration of an impulse and need for African-American men to come together to recognize each other and affirm our rightful place in the society,” he said.
“These are mean, cruel times, exemplified by a ‘lock ’em up, take no prisoners’ mentality that dominates the Republican-led Congress,” Obama said.
“Historically, African-Americans have turned inward and towards black nationalism whenever they have a sense, as we do now, that the mainstream has rebuffed us, and that white Americans couldn’t care less about the profound problems African-Americans are facing.”
“Black nationalism” is a current of thought and political action in the African-American community that has been championed by the likes of Farrakhan, Wright, Malcolm X, the Black Panthers and Khalid al-Mansour. Obama discussed his attraction to black nationalism at length in his 1995 memoir “Dreams of My Father.”
Obama further parsed his words in a Feb. 25, 2008, presentation to a Jewish community meeting in Cleveland, Ohio, where he insisted that Wright “does not have a close relationship with Louis Farrakhan.”
And yet, just months earlier, Wright’s Trumpet magazine gave Farrakhan its Lifetime Achievement Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award, saying that Farrakhan “truly epitomized greatness.”
That award was the fruit of a long and deep relationship between the two men, White told Newsmax. In 1984, Wright accompanied Farrakhan on his much-criticized trip to meet Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, at a time when Gadhafi was considered an enemy of the United States.
Wright also accompanied Farrakhan and Jackson to Syria in 1986, where they successfully negotiated with Syrian strongman for the release of downed American pilot Robert O. Goodman.
Obama’s Speaking Style
In addition to the ideological affinity Obama expressed for the black nationalist movement, White believes that Obama owes much of his success as a public orator to speaking techniques that Farrakhan developed over the years, and exploited for years to great success.
“If you listen to the rhetoric and you take away Obama’s political jargon, you hear a religious tenor to it that is very much Nation of Islam-like. I don’t know if anyone has ever touched on it, but Obama’s speaking style is very Malcolm-like, very Farrakhan-like,” White said.
Any American who has listened to early radio or television interviews of Obama can hear how dramatically Obama’s speaking style has changed since he became a United States senator.
In clips dating from 2001 and even early 2004, Obama speaks haltingly and in long, rambling sentences packed with legalese and dense pseudo-academic rhetoric. But not today.
“As a former minister of the Nation of Islam, I know how they speak,” White told Newsmax. “I don’t know who was training Obama. But that style is not a ministerial style like in the Christian church. It’s a Nation of Islam style.”
White began in the late 1970s as a foot soldier in the Fruit of Islam, the military branch of Farrakhan’s Black Muslim group, then rose to become a minister of the Nation of Islam and a top deputy to Farrakhan himself.
Known initially as Brother Vibert L.X., and later as Minister V.L. Muhammad, he parted ways with Farrakhan not long after the Million Man March, after nearly 25 years within the organization.
White’s 2002 book “Inside the Nation of Islam” prompted death threats by Farrakhan loyalists, so he left Illinois and moved to Florida to teach at the University of Central Florida.
He told Newsmax that Obama’s remarkable speaking style, even his manner of standing at a podium to appear larger than life, is directly copied from Farrakhan.
“If the Nation of Islam can’t do anything else, it can train people how to speak. And nobody can outspeak a Muslim minister,” he said.
Earlier this year, a pro-Clinton blog run by former CIA officer Larry Johnson unearthed a 2004 photograph showing Michelle Obama and Farrakahn’s wife, Mother Khadijah Farrakhan, at an event hosted by Jackson’s Citizenship Education Foundation.
Newsmax queried Obama’s U.S. Senate office, his Chicago office and his campaign press office about his ties to Farrakhan, but did not receive a reply.
Ever since he appeared before the annual policy conference of the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee in June, Obama has attempted to convince the Jewish community that he is pro-Israel.
But his longstanding ties to Farrakhan, Wright and Palestinian activist Rashid Khalidi, among others, have disturbed many Jewish community leaders.
Sen. John McCain publicly chastised The Los Angeles Times on Thursday for not releasing a videotape the newspaper said it possessed of a 2003 dinner for Khalidi, where Obama reportedly accused Israel of carrying out a “genocide” against the Palestinians.
© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
Posted by: Truth | November 2, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Jwench – You guys do find voter fraud amusing. You engage in it because you know the only way Obama could get elected is if your side CHEATS! And cheat they do! Something to be VERY proud of, indeed!
Posted by: joyceonamission | Nov 2, 2008 7:32:41 PM
No I do not find voter fraud amusing. What I do find amusing is that you Republicans don’t look at the fact that your people are engaged in voter fraud and have actually been charged.You choose to ignore that fact.
And what do you think Acorn is under investigation for in gosh, I lost count of how many states! Hundreds of thousands of questionable registrations, all with the help and blessings of the courts. A park bench can be your address! COME ON!!!
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Joyce, you are correct Rupert Murdoch said in yesterday’s news that Obama’s economic policies will hurt the economy.
Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 2, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Biden is a smirky, pompous a$$hole. Another liberal double standard here. They whine, whine, whine. There are hundreds of instances where Republicans have been heckled, interrupted, and attacked. Let the opposite happen ONE time and liberals go into a self-righteous tailspin. The DemocRATS are running a viscuous campaign of lies and deciet. They preparing to steal this election folks. Multiple instance of DemocRAT voter fraud are being investigated in 16 states. Buckle up folks.
Posted by: Observer | November 2, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Ok I am done. Too many right wing nutbags on here. I hope you all one day get over your indifference to people who are not like you. It’s sad that in 2008 we still have people who think like some of you.
Get out and VOTE on Tuesday. I wish Obama/Biden the best!
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Biden is a smirky, pompous a$$hole. Another liberal double standard here. They whine, whine, whine. There are hundreds of instances where Republicans have been heckled, interrupted, and attacked. Let the opposite happen ONE time and liberals go into a self-righteous tailspin. The DemocRATS are running a viscious campaign of lies and deciet. They preparing to steal this election folks. Multiple instance of DemocRAT voter fraud are being investigated in 16 states. Buckle up folks.
Posted by: Observer | November 2, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Obamabots are busy spamming the boards, trying to hide the fact their candidate is going down in flames. Bye bye Obambi, too bad that the Republican VP candidate is more of a man than YOUR sorry a$$!
Posted by: Carl Parsons | November 2, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Matteroffacts-
Keith O? that joke from MSNBC, the same “news channel” that has Chris “obama gives me a tingle up my leg” Matthews? hahaha, yeah like we will believe anything he says…
BTW-Ben Affleck played him beautifully last night on SNL
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Just reading these comments reminds me why I vote republican and believe in their values. If you read these comments the republicans disagree and tell you why they disagree. The democrats don’t tell you why they disagree they just make personal attacks on everyone from those who make comments on here to people in the public spot light. Grow up people the country will never be united as long as you use these thug intimidation tactics. The only thing that does is to remind me that your party wants to be more like a dictatorship instead of a democracy!
Posted by: jim | November 2, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
I WONDER WHERE BUSH AND CHENEY ARE HIDING!
Posted by: rhbate | November 2, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!
DON’T GLOAT!!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY POLL THAT MATTERS IS NOV. 4!!!!!!!!!
VOTE!!!!!!!!!
VOTE!!!!!!!!!
VOTE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: rhbate | November 2, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Liberals are intolerant, hate-filled idiots with no concept of reality and no understanding of history.
Posted by: Bill | November 2, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
It is time that the Democrotches had some of the same medicine they have given the more civilized Republicans over the last forty years!!! When the Democrotches begin to lose their libety, they will be the first to whine.
Posted by: William | November 2, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Go Florida!!!! Good for you!!!!
Posted by: Debbbie | November 2, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
obamas bud!
Khalidi of the PLO
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posted Thursday, 30 October 2008
This post has several important updates. The first brings a passage from a 1978 New York Times report from Beirut, noting that Rashid Khalidi “works for the P.L.O.” The third uncovers a passage from a 1976 Los Angeles Times report, also from Beirut, describing Khalidi as “a PLO spokesman.” —Martin Kramer
Was Rashid Khalidi a PLO “spokesman” or director of its press agency in Beirut back in 1982? I’ll leave it to others to determine whether or not it matters (or matters enough) to the Khalidi-Obama connection. But I get riled up when people testify to Khalidi’s bona fides without doing due diligence—especially when they specifically address Jewish audiences. Example: Ron Kampeas of the Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA).
Kampeas makes this argument, against the claim that Khalidi was a PLO spokesman:
The problem with the “spokesman” claim is that you can actually prove it’s not true. In saner times, “prove it’s not true” would be a phrase frowned on in an innocent until proven guilty culture. Khalidi’s denial would be enough in the face of a lack of evidence as to same. Those promoting the claim cite a single 1982 article by Tom Friedman; Khalidi says Friedman got it wrong, and that the term “PLO spokesman” was used promiscuously in 1982 Beirut.
But like I said, things ain’t so sane.
So here’s the thing: What everyone acknowledges is that Khalidi was an adviser to the Palestinian delegation to the 1991 Madrid talks. That delegation—to a person—could not have had any formal affiliation with the PLO. Israel regarded the group as terrorist and its laws banned contact with its members; then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir made not being affiliated with the PLO it a condition of Israel’s agreement to participate. The names of the Palestinian team would have been vetted by Israeli intelligence.
This was something of a nudge and a wink, of course: Faisal Husseini, who headed the team, was in constant contact with PLO headquarters in Tunis.
Still, it should put to rest the notion that Khalidi was ever a “spokesman” for the group.
This is a tissue of errors. Khalidi was not part of the official Palestinian delegation, whose 14 members all came from the West Bank and Gaza. He belonged to a six-person advisory panel which came to Madrid precisely to serve as a conduit between the official delegation and the PLO. The Israeli government was not at all pleased with this addition, and the New York Times ran a story about it under the headline: “Israelis Deplore Advisory Panel Of Palestinians.” Khalidi is named there as one of the six.
Clyde Haberman, the Times correspondent who reported the story, said of the six: “It is this group that presumably will be calling the shots, and one way or another all its members violate Israel’s guidelines for the sort of Palestinians with whom it is prepared to negotiate. In particular, they speak openly for the P.L.O.” So, pace Kampeas, Israel did not vet and approve Khalidi—exactly the opposite was true. “We will not speak with these advisers,” announced then-Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir. “Secondly, they will not be present in the room during the deliberations of the conference.” Poof! There goes Kampeas’s “proof” that the “spokesman” claim is logically false.
As for Khalidi’s denial, there are ample grounds to question it. In 2004, when he made it, Khalidi wrote that between 1976 and 1983, “I was teaching full time as an Assistant Professor in the Political Studies and Public Administration Dept. at the American University of Beirut, published two books and several articles, and also was a research fellow at the independent Institute for Palestine Studies.” Khalidi claimed he had time for little else. “I often spoke to journalists in Beirut, who usually cited me without attribution as a well-informed Palestinian source. If some misidentified me at the time, I am not aware of it.”
Now if someone misidentified me on the pages of the New York Times—Tom Friedman, no less—I’m sure I would be aware of it. So would you. Yet Khalidi did not seek a correction of Friedman’s characterization at the time, although the Times regularly issues corrections of such mistakes, and presumably would have done the same for Khalidi.
Khalidi’s self-description as being a preoccupied professor while in Beirut also contradicts a statement he made in a 2005 interview. After listing the stations in his academic career, he was asked this question: “You were also involved politically as well?” Khalidi: “Well, yes. I was deeply involved in politics in Beirut.”
It is worth explaining what it meant to be “deeply involved in politics in Beirut” during the civil war in Lebanon. It was not at all like community organizing in Chicago. The Lebanese state had ceased to function; the political actors were all armed militias, Lebanese and Palestinian. Every individual needed to be affiliated with such an organization, if not for bread then at least for protection. Khalidi was known to be affiliated with, and protected by, Arafat’s Fatah. A 1979 New York Times report (by Youssef Ibrahim) described Khalidi as “a professor of political science who is close to Al Fatah.” In Beirut, to be “close” to an organization meant you enjoyed its protection in return for loyalty and services rendered. Khalidi’s wife also worked as an English translator for the PLO’s press agency, Wafa. So savvy journalists knew that if they wanted the Fatah spin, they could get it from Khalidi.
This is also probably why Khalidi didn’t correct Tom Friedman’s “error,” although he would have known of it. Friedman, in a report filed from Beirut on the third day of the 1982 Israeli invasion, called Khalidi “a director of the Palestinian press agency, Wafa” which must have reflected his perception. It’s possible that in the PLO’s (chaotic) mobilization, Khalidi had a reason to represent himself as such, and was working alongside his wife. Or perhaps Friedman just got it wrong in the heat of battle (he had not quoted Khalidi before). In any event, Khalidi presumably didn’t ask for a correction, because the Times never ran one.
Khalidi later broke with Arafat, but like him, he remains a bundle of ambiguities and incongruities, many of them deliberately constructed. He’s much too elusive for any passing journalist to pin down. Rashid Khalidi becomes what people wish him to be. Perhaps that’s yet another way in which he and Barack Obama are kindred spirits.
First Update: Ron Kampeas has rushed to defend his indefensible thesis, insisting that because the advisory panel came to Madrid, they still must have been “vetted” by Israel and cleared of any PLO taint. In fact, the United States had invited all of them without asking Israel, as the New York Times reported. (“The Americans are playing clever games and trying to outsmart us,” complained an Israeli diplomat to the Boston Globe.) Israel objected but acquiesced. That cannot logically be read as establishing for a fact that Khalidi couldn’t have been PLO-affiliated almost a decade earlier in Beirut, which is Kampeas’s thesis.
Nor is there any reason to be certain that Tom Friedman erred in identifying Khalidi as he did—certainly not because Khalidi claimed so twenty years later. I’ve been interviewed many times by journalists, and standard operating procedure—which Kampeas no doubt follows—is to end by asking the interviewee how he or she wants to be identified. My personal inclination is to believe that Friedman is too professional not to have asked Khalidi, or to have called Khalidi “a director of the Palestinian press agency, Wafa” out of the blue. Why might Khalidi have identified himself thus? He would have had his reasons. (How Friedman described Khalidi in a review of one of Khalidi’s books years later, which Kampeas thinks proves something, seems to me entirely irrelevant.)
Finally, Kampeas argues that Khalidi couldn’t have known or done anything to correct Friedman’s “error” because Israel’s invasion of Lebanon had just begun. It’s not inconceivable (if it really was an error). But a commentator on this post brings my attention to an earlier New York Times article, dated February 19, 1978 (by the late James M. Markham), which has been overlooked because Khalidi’s name appears there as Khalidy. There he is identified as “an American-educated Palestinian who teaches political science at the American University of Beirut and also works for the P.L.O.” The front-page story opened a major series on the Palestinians, and Khalidi certainly could have corrected the PLO reference, if it was an error. He didn’t.
Poor Ron—reduced to contortions to uphold the truth-telling credibility of Rashid Khalidi, of all people. He joins a long list of the credulous (including well-meaning journalists, rabbis, deans, etc.) who haven’t figured out that Khalidi says one thing here, and another thing there. For more evidence, see my exhaustive archive of Khalidiana.
Second update: Ron Kampeas, in another update (scroll down), does still more absurd acrobatics to prove that Tom Friedman had to be wrong back in 1982, or the New York Times had to have fouled up—that Khalidi couldn’t possibly have misled them. I don’t buy it at all, but Friedman and the Times can speak for themselves, and maybe they will.
But Kampeas dismisses the 1978 Times piece (clip right above) with this:
Martin finds an earlier New York Times reference to Khalidi—as Khalidy—as “working for the PLO.” Yet this writer clearly didn’t ask Khalidi how to spell his name. (The loose rules of Arab transliteration would not apply to a New York-born U.S. citizen; Khalidi is consistent on how one spells his name.)
That’s it? Case dismissed? “This writer,” James Markham, was the Times Beirut bureau chief in 1975 and 1976, covering the civil war (for which he almost took a Pulitzer), and he covered the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1978 and the Iranian revolution. He was a Princeton grad and a Rhodes Scholar, and during a long career as a foreign correspondent earned a reputation as a consummate professional. (He knew his Palestinians, too, and he once responded to criticism of being too sympathetic to them in these words: ”I do not romanticize Palestinian gunmen, because I have seen too many of them. I have even had them stick guns at my head and threaten to kill me. But I have also met and talked with other Palestinians, and not all Palestinians are terrorists.”) If Kampeas is suggesting that Markham somehow made up the PLO tag for Khalidi….
Markham and Friedman mistakenly put Khalidi in the PLO? Two strikes of lightening? Come on. Khalidi has never come clean about Beirut; he’s said he was too busy to be political, and that he was “deeply involved” in politics. So the truth should be determined independently of what he claims or denies, and the evidence so far is that he was in thick with the PLO, when the organization was still neck-deep in terrorism. Markham, interestingly, identified Khalidi as an “American-educated Palestinian,” which suggests to me that Khalidi may have been hiding the fact of his U.S. citizenship as well. There is a mystery here, and one hopes that a major newspaper—perhaps the Times itself—will get to the bottom of it, now that “Khalidi” is a household word, and Barack Obama has anointed him a “respected scholar.”
Third Update: And here is the earliest and most unequivocal evidence yet. It is from an article filed by the late Joe Alex Morris Jr., Los Angeles Times Middle East correspondent based in Beirut, published in that paper on September 5, 1976, under the headline “Lebanon War Hurts Palestinian Cause.” Rashid Khalidi is identified as “a PLO spokesman.”
Checkmate.
http://sandbox.blog-city.com/khalidi_of_the_plo.htm
Posted by: Truth | November 2, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
John McCain – the 44th President of the United States of America – has a beautiful ring to it doesn’t it….?
Posted by: WoodHeat | November 2, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Obama was not born in the United States. Hawaii law allowed his mother to get a Birth Certificate for him upon returning from Kenya:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm
That “original birth certificate” on factcheck and fightthesmears is a not even a birth certificate. Here’s a comparison:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
I am in a group that campaigned for Clinton, Gore and Kerry. Obama has us all so scared with his crazy talk, National Security Force, and so on, that WE’RE ALL GOING FOR McCAIN even the ones of us who voted for Obama in March!!!
Posted by: McCainocrat | November 2, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
wonder if the hard working blue coller coal miners in america like this.what industry does he want to bankrupt next.the media is not doing its job.
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
Posted by: wake up america | November 2, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
also, i am surprised that ABC has an article on Biden being hackled at his rally,wow, is that like the first time we are hearing that he got heckled? watch, Obama is going to have to hide Biden again until Nov 5th….
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
hey, there are some really good noles up there. keep it up.
Posted by: hurricane | November 2, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
For everyone who reads this article to make it clear, me are members of Florida State conservative organizations i will admit that the siren was unneccisary and that that was one person out of a group of thirty. No for all of you who think that we want this country to be divided because of our protest you are WRONG we were there to support McCain and show the people of Tallahassee that we are here and that the Republicans in this town will be heard. On another note lets talk about the harrasment that we recieved today. A woman screamed in my face that i was a reacist and then had her child start yelling the same thing! A CHILD!! what does that say about the Obama supporters?? just ask yourself that question.
McCAIN 08′
Posted by: Member of the Biden protest | November 2, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
When the facts become too much to handle, the Democrats MUST retreat. To be won over by logic and facts may cause them to instantly implode. Come back to the light Democrats, come back to the light!!
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
YEAH KEITH OLBERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He tells the truth, even if it applies to democrats. And he’s beating Bill O in ratings! Top that Faux- or is it Fixed Noise- No its Fake News- Sorry it’s Fox News where you nuts belong. Especially when you just can’t face the facts.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Of course Obama will win. ACORN and its ilk started the “2008 BRING ANY DEM INTO THE WHITE HOUSE” mission right after the 2004 elections. Add to that the Obama minions and it’s a win-win situation.
Posted by: joan cohen | November 2, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Debbie, Truth, thank you for backing up my post with substance that is pretty hard to ignore. So many Obama Kool-Aid drinkers have been anesthetized by most of the press! It’s like a an X-Files episode where peoples senses have been dumbed down by some kind of brain-wave manipulation. People are actually voting for a guy who erased his Illinois Senate records..and all because they don’t like Bush. It is just CRAZY!
Posted by: TheTruth | November 2, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
I am voting for McCain and Palin. That is it. You guess the rest. I am sure it is already in here somewhere.
Posted by: Jim Baker | November 2, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
We’re still talking about the stupid birth certificate. If that was true McCain would have already played that card and Senator Obama would have been outed by the Feds. Next….
Posted by: Sarah | November 2, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
These sustained personal attacks on Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin are unfair and despicable.
Joe isn’t running for anything and should be left alone. Sarah Palin is a tough, accomplished woman who has brought real change to Alaska, and that’s why she’s so popular.
In his four decades in the Senate, Biden has not brought change–he just joined the establishment.
And Obama has never brought change or accomplished anything significant. (Please let me know if you are aware of any accomplishments.) He’s rarely even shown up for work in the Senate.
Posted by: rlmcca | November 2, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Good try Sarah we’re on to you. Typical Democrat don’t answer any questions just duck and cover… NEXT
Posted by: Arizonan | November 2, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
JOHN MCCAIN WAS BORN IN PANAMA! PANAMA! PANAMA! PANAMA! PANAMA! PANAMAAAAAA!!!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
By joyceonamission | “YEAH KEITH OLBERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He tells the truth, even if it applies to democrats. And he’s beating Bill O in ratings! Top that Faux- or is it Fixed Noise- No its Fake News- Sorry it’s Fox News where you nuts belong. Especially when you just can’t face the facts.”
Another one who overdosed on the Kool-Aid. Not sure where you get your, ahem, facts, but check Nielsen’s website. Olberman never stood a chance even against a Kevin Trudeau’s informecial.
Posted by: joan cohen | November 2, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
i read an article from an Iraqi who lived during Saddam regime. he was jailed and had family members killed. he came to america to talk at a university. he said that he was so grateful for the americans who came and saved them from Saddam. he said thaqt he hopes the next president will not remove our troops just yet as right now they are making huge progress. for the first time in a long time they have freedom and they have women serving in government, something that was not common under Saddams regime. if only ABC and the other MSM would report the good things that have been happening in Iraq we would not be so divided over this issues. we should be happy that we have had made a difference in another country, yes at the sacrifice of our soliders lives, but their death has not been in vain. when i say i support the troops, i don’t say it the way the democrats says it. i say it with pride and that i am so grateful to live in a free country.
former British Prime Minister Tony Blair once said that the ones who sacrifice their lives for you is 1) jesus christ and 2) the united states Marines.
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
“YEAH KEITH OLBERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He tells the truth, even if it applies to democrats. And he’s beating Bill O in ratings! Top that Faux- or is it Fixed Noise- No its Fake News- Sorry it’s Fox News where you nuts belong. Especially when you just can’t face the fac
ts.
Posted by: Matteroffacts
LOLOL,..WOW,..ok,..put the kool-aid down and just back away,..please inform yourself on the facts,…Bill O has beat gooberman for the last 6 years,..I don’t even watch Bill and even I knnow that!
Posted by: Gail | November 2, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
How much does it cost to be civilised?
What is the use of interruption?
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Oh, I laughed so hard. Thank you stank legion.
Posted by: whatever | November 2, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
JOHN MCCAIN WAS BORN IN PANAMA! PANAMA! PANAMA! PANAMA! PANAMA! PANAMAAAAAA!!!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | Nov 2, 2008 7
In a military base, from a military father, dumb ass!
Posted by: joan cohen | November 2, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Joan honey- umm no, Bill OReilly is beating him in the ratings.. rachel Maddow, Keith O’s little protege is beating Keith O in the ratings.
Mattroffact-
yes he was born in Panama, under miliatry colony to american born parents.. plus McCain has already been thru this presidency and vetting process, so your point is kinda old….
on the other hand, who is the real Barack Obama?
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
To those who asked why I am voting for Obama. It’s time we take this country in a new direction. I like some of what he has proposed and there are other things that I do not agree with him on. None of us can agree 100% with our candidate.
The Republican leadership over the last 8 years has torn this country apart and has destroyed this country.
I realize that Obama will not do all that he has promised, but I think that he will make some good changes to get us back on the right track.
I was a staunch Hillary supporter and some of his proposals are pretty close to hers which is another reason I chose him over McCain.
People are always afraid of what they don’t understand. Get educated and quit listening to just one side of things and open up your minds, because divided we fall.
Good night, I have to get up early for work tomorrow.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Well Bill-O isn’t anymore. And unlike all of you right wing ignoranuses- ignoranus because you’re just so ignorant (mostly because you want to be) I watch news that isn’t popular, but true. Maybe that’s why John McCain dislike KO so much, he knows that KO can catch him in every lie he makes.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Obama Bin Biden
THese 2 worms aren’t worth your support.
Bankrupt Coal plants…thats good just remember when you cap those guys they will moving to china with your jobs where they can pump out as much as they want..and when the little old ladies freeze because they can’t affor the winter bill…
Obama is a loser with old ideas that have failed around the world many times over.. tax my boss and you are taxing me.
Posted by: dee | November 2, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
sorry i mean joyce, not Joan.. sorry my mistake
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
joan cohen… still PANAMA!!!! PANAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PANAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
GoPalin, I believe that’s exactly what I said about Olberman, not standing a chance against Bill…Olberman gets lower ratings than even Kevin Trudeau informecial!
Posted by: joan cohen | November 2, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Hey Gail, Olberman isn’t even CLOSE to beating O’Reilly in ratings. Not even CLOSE. And Ben Affleck’s SNL impression of him was so spot-on, it wasn’t even an exaggeration (I had to Google Olberman while watching SNL to find out who he was, and when I watched a couple of YouTubes, I was laughing so hard tears were streaming out of my eyes…what a moron…)
Posted by: TheTruth | November 2, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Get the koolaid ready people, old Osama doesn’t want to be president anyway, he wants to be the messiah, with all the voter fraud there is no doubt he is going to go all the way, so look forward to getting to live through the great old Jimmy Carter years, hope I don’t hear any complaints about people loosing their jobs, they got what they wanted,, “change”.
Posted by: Mike Johnson | November 2, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
I’m ashamed to say that I was a Republican. Sarah Palin has incited hatred, division and fear in this wonderful nation. Her back alley street fighting antics may be good in Wasilla but in civilized America they don’t cut it. No DRAMA vote OBAMA.
Posted by: seenitallx9 | November 2, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
mattroffact-
hahah, please stop making us laugh about how you take Keith O so seriously…
the guy is a joke, he was spoofed on SNL! everyone knows he is a joke..
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Liberalism is a mental disorder!!!!!!
The only reason why we have so much divisiveness in this country is because liberals cannot cooperate and conform!!!
Posted by: ROCK | November 2, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
MatterOfFacts, using your…logic (and I am using the term loosely) means he is not American? :) Are you aware of the law you silly twit? Children born to military parents on military bases on foreign lands ARE US citizens. So stop repeating PANAMA like a mindless parrot, you are really embarrassing yourself beyond any means.
Posted by: joan cohen | November 2, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Joe the whatever’s question was valid. The fact that you tea baggers need to attempt to gut him is very telling.
Posted by: whiteflagdems | November 2, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
The Democrat Platform = Innocent Baby Killers! Oh, excuse me, you have nicknamed it a fetus, so thats O.K.! When are you people going to wake up and recognize your sinful attitude and behavior toward the “life and liberty” for all mankind, if you really believe we were created equal!!!
Posted by: do kriens | November 2, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
GoPalin- Are you serious? Are you- I mean this is so hilarious I think I migh- Are you SERIOUS? EVERYONE IS SPOOFED ON SNL- It’s a spoof show! That’s what they do! I mean I thought the base was uneducated, but this is preposterous!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Oops…I meant a reply to Matteroffacts on the O’reilly post…
Posted by: TheTruth | November 2, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
kill the media traitors. hang them high, hose with fuel, light.
Posted by: barack | November 2, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Category of people vote for Republican:
1. Deep pocket but shallow moral.
2. Christian Extremeness.
3. White Trash.
4. Radical Zionist.
and non is healthy for our society.
Posted by: Joy | November 2, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
The Associated Press watched it, and surprisingly, the 30-minute infomercial also failed to impress them:
“Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was LESS THAN UPFRONT in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama’s assertion that “I’ve offered spending cuts above and beyond” the expense of his promises is accepted ONLY by his partisans. His vow to save money by “eliminating programs that don’t work” masks his FAILURE throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are – beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.”
Calvin Woodward reports that Obama misled viewers on at least five key points in his 30-minute final argument:
–Health care costs – Obama claimed his plan would lower costs by $2500 per year per family, but it DOES NOT. In fact, Obama can’t point to any particular cost reductions. He plans to spend $50 billion over five years on modernization and chronic-disease prevention and presumes that this will lower costs in the future, but in the meantime it RAISES COSTS at least in the short run on everyone (the $50 billion doesn’t come out of thin air).
–The Pay-Go of his plans – NO, he hasn’t demonstrated that he’s found the revenue for his spending, despite his claims last night. Non-partisan analysts believe that his spending programs will ADD at least $428 billion to the DEFICIT in his first term, and that’s if you accept his non-specific pledge to cut spending in other areas.
–Tax cuts for working class families – Before the commercial aired, he had already begun BACKING AWAY from that idea because of the financial crisis, although Obama didn’t acknowledge it in the ad.
–The “right” to affordable health care – Obama DOES NOT guarantee coverage in any of his plans, at least not for adults.
–Getting out of Iraq – Obama noted that the US spends $10 billion a month in Iraq and talked again about “bringing that war to a close” — but he’s BACKED AWAY from his previous pledges to get out on a strict 16-month timetable, which is as fast as the remaining units can be properly withdrawn.
Update America Break:
If Obama wanted to tax only the rich, Obama would have suggested a flat rate tax to remove all the tax loopholes used by the rich, and that includes Warren Buffet’s hidden billion dollar funds setup just for his family. Obama is a phony and he fools only the fools.
Obama continues to deceive America voters. Obama supporters talk about Governor Sarah Palin, but Obama keeps lying to be the president. No one can believe a person that continues to lie about his program and continuously deceives the voting public. Obama supporters cannot substantiate their rhetoric.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.
Posted by: Update America | November 2, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Mattroffact-
dead serious… your Keith is a joke.. just wondering, do you get the same tingle up your legs like Chris matthews? i mean both Keith and Chris are 2 peas in a pod….
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Hey Mike, it’s quite poor judgement from your side or lack there of when you start a sentence with “I used to be a Republican” or “I am a Republican” BUT…
TRANSLATION: I am making stuff up to inflate my claim, actually I was never a Republican.
Weak mind, weaker argument and even lame post.
You go on and be the best you can be: an Obama minion.
Posted by: joan cohen | November 2, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Mr. Buffett pays very little taxes – his company pays him $100,000 a year in salary and he travels on company expenses.
He left all his money to the Gates Foundation; his estate will pay no inheritance taxes. He is America’s richest hypocrit.
Posted by: ed | November 2, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
BTW, in an independent study of ALL THE MAJOR NEWS OUTLETS, FOX WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD COMPLETELY EQUAL NEGATIVE COVERAGE ON BOTH PARTIES. 40% EACH. MSNBC is a corrupt joke.
Posted by: TheTruth | November 2, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Wow,
“IndependAnt American Woman”, did you even bother to look how to spell, independEnt? What a joke.
Posted by: Yuran_Idiot | November 2, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
GoPalin – you say “liberalism is a metal disorder” If it weren’t for liberalism we wouldn’t have science, or the arts. We wouldn’t have society as you know it. It’s people that think outside of the box that bring progress. Liberal is a good word and you have benefited greatly from liberals.
Posted by: plantain11 | November 2, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
I think all one has to do to see a proper video analogy of this year’s presidential campaign, is to watch ‘Mars Attacks!’.
I see the Republicans running around yelling in harsh voice, ” WOK WOK WOK WOK WOK!!!”, and looking very P.O.’d…
while in the meantime, Slim Whitman is getting ready to begin yodeling on Tuesday.
Posted by: mikerdbiker | November 2, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
What a shame for our nation that Joe the “wife beating” plumber has become some kind of idol. He beat the crap out of BOTH of his wives! It’s public record!
Don’t know if that’s true or not but this is true FOR SURE: THOSE WHO REPORT IT ARE AS STASI AGENTS, AS KGB AGENTS, they are, literally, stooges who will spy on each other, on their neighbours for no other reason but to destroy them.
Welcome to those who back the only major candidate officially backed by the Communist Party of the USA. No wonder!
Posted by: Al Kanadi | November 2, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
I wonder about a couple of things:
1. Will the same Democrats that talk about working together, talk the same way IF McCain pulls off a Harry Truman?
2. The Palin comment about real America: How patriotic America are the city council in San Fran that hate the military and the Marines in particular?
3. How are you going to react when you realize that the economic promises by either candidate cannot be accomplished?
How many of you practice a civil discourse, and can actually debates facts (Obama/McCain say”" ) as opposed to emotions (Obama/McCain won’t do”").
Neither candidate should make promises about what they WILL do, but only what they want to do. SEC Paulson will have a conference with the (apparent) winner on WED. After that conference the “winner” will begin explaining in small increments how all they promised cannot come to fruition.
Posted by: richard | November 2, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Don’t call me a twit, you SILLY BYTCH. I’m just throwing your own stupid comments on birth in your face. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii- An American State to an American Citizen, to an American family. While you hypocritical bigots have a candidate WHO WASN’T EVEN BORN IN THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Category of people vote for Republican:
1. Deep pocket but shallow moral.
2. Christian Extremeness.
3. White Trash.
4. Radical Zionist.
and non is healthy for our society.
Posted by: Joy
Don’t you suddenly wish you went to Grammar and Spelling classes instead of skipping school and going parking with your boyfriend? Personally, I wish you were more into reading than smoking whatever it is you smoke. And put down the Kool Aid, your single neuron is starting to fail you.
Posted by: joan cohen | November 2, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
The only reason why we have so much divisiveness in this country is because liberals cannot cooperate and conform!!! Are you serious? So just because you’re registered Republican or Democrat you have to “conform” and vote that way? Whatever happened to thinking for ourselves and voting for whomever we thought would be the best President no matter what party?
Posted by: Arizonan | November 2, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Joy wrote:
“Category of people vote for Republican:
1. Deep pocket but shallow moral.
2. Christian Extremeness.
3. White Trash.
4. Radical Zionist.”
Joy, you can add Registered Independents with IQ’s higher than Obama’s to your list. That would include me. :-) Happy voting.
Posted by: TheTruth | November 2, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
WOW! I see the waste of a lot of good oxygen on these pages! I’m an Independent but I will be LMAO if NO-Bama wins. It will be funny to see him hand that big ole’ jar of vaseline to all those Obamacrats that voted for him when he starts sticking it to them in ways they never dreamed of..should be fun to watch.
Posted by: SGT Rock | November 2, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Joe, where were you in the last eight years? Were you not a Senator in the US Senate, in Washington DC? Have not the Democrats had almost unilateral control of the legislature over these past six years, either by majority or by persuasion? And how often has the President in fact used his pen to veto legislation coming from the legislature?
These “failed economic policies” are yours, Joe. All yours. The President proposes a budget. What then happens is up to the House. I believe that’s defined in Article 1 perhaps?
Posted by: Snowman | November 2, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Joe isn’t Home, that is correct Joe, your brain took at trip to China and never returned. Guess we can all call you the “empty head”. McCain + Palin = promoton of bigotry, racism, religious divides; the see America in TWO parts: Patriotic versus Unpatriotic, Pro-America versus Anti-America, Real Americans verus Un-Americans, Real Believers in God versus WHAT?, Real parts of America versus the unreal or fake parts of America. Yes, fellow Americans, John McCain and Sarah Palin have taken it upon themselves to divide our our country and our citizens into their (John & Sarah’s) own special little pockets of discrimination, division, and condemnation of those of us who do not agree with them. IF you are for McCain and Palin, then, in their view you are God-loving, patriotic, Pro-American, Real American, and your live in the “best” part of America. If you support Senator Obama, then, according to them, we are the bad guys. Didn’t Hitler treat the Jews in the same manner?? Pretty scary, wouldn’t you agree??
True Anti-Americans: The Alaskan Independent Party which wants to secede from America, whose members hate and condemn America, our institutions, and our government; whose members refer to the American Flag as “that damned flag”!!
Seven-year Active Member: TODD PALIN
Attended meetings and supported this group: SARAH PALIN
JUNE 2008–Supports, congratulates, and praises the AIP members for the good work they are doing: SARAH PALIN
Posted by: NinaK | November 2, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Obama Staffer (Former Clinton Staffer) Spills the Beans
Dr. Lynette Long — a frequent contributor to this blog, a recent and influential member of Democratic national committees, a prominent supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton, and now a McCain/Pain supporter — just forwarded this to me from her “contact,” and asked that this be posted immediately. It is an astonishing read. Feel free to grab this for your own blogs, and send it on to friends by e-mail.
After a long and careful consideration of all the implications and possible consequences of my actions today, I have decided to go through with this in the hope that our country can indeed be guided into the right direction.
First, a little personal background… I am a female grad student in my 20’s, and a registered Democrat. During the primaries, I was a campaign worker for the Clinton candidacy. I believed in her and still do, staying all the way to the bitter end. And believe me, it was bitter. The snippets you’ve heard from various media outlets only grazed the surface. There was no love between the Clinton and Obama campaigns, and these feelings extended all the way to the top. Hillary was no dope though, and knew that any endorsement of Obama must appear to be a full-fledged one. She did this out of political survival.
As a part of his overall effort to extend an olive branch to the Clinton camp and her supporters, Obama took on a few Hillary staff members into his campaign. I was one such worker. Though I was still bitterly loyal to Hillary, I still held out hope that he would choose her as VP. In fact, there was a consensus among us transplants that in the end, he HAD to choose her. It was the only logical choice. I also was committed to the Democratic cause and without much of a second thought, transferred my allegiance to Senator Obama.
I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy the gossip or the attention directed my way. I’m doing this because I doubt much of you know the true weaknesses of Obama.
Another reason for my doing this is that I have lost faith in this campaign, and feel that this choice has been forced on many people in this country.
Put simply, you are being manipulated. That was and is our job – to manipulate you (the electorate) and the media (we already had them months ago). Our goal is to create chaos with the other side, not hope.
I’ve come to the realization (as the campaign already has) that if this comes to the issues, Barack Obama doesn’t have a chance. His only chance is to foster disorganization, chaos, despair, and a sense of inevitability among the Republicans.
It has worked up until now. Joe the Plumber has put the focus on the issues again, and this scares us more than anything. Being in a position to know these things, I will rate what the Obama campaign already knows are their weak links from the most important on down.
1 – Hillary voters. Internal polling suggests that at best, we are taking 70-75% of these voters. Other estimates are as low as 60% in some areas – particularly Ohio and western PA.
My biggest problem with this campaign’s strategy was the decision NOT to offer Hillary the VP slot. She was ready and able to take this on, and would have campaigned enthusiastically for it.
This selection would have also brought virtually all of her supporters into the fold, and the Obama campaign knew it. Though I have no way of knowing this for certain, and I do admit that I am relying on internal gossip, Senator Obama actually went against the advice of his top advisors. They wanted him to choose her, but the only significant opposition to this within the campaign came from Barack and Michelle Obama. In short, he let personal feelings take precedence over what was the most logical thing to do.
Biden, by the way, has been a disaster inside the campaign. Everyone cringes whenever he gives an interview, and he creates so many headaches as the campaign has to stay on their toes in order to disseminate information and spin whatever it was he was trying to say.
2 – Sarah Palin. Don’t believe what the media is telling you about how horrible a choice she was. Again, our internal polling suggests that though she has had a minimal impact on pulling disaffected Hillary Democrats to McCain, she has done wonders in mobilizing the base for McCain.
Another thing – we were completely taken by surprise with her pick. In my capacity in the research department, I looked into the backgrounds of Leiberman, Romney, Pawlenty and Ridge, and prepared briefs. I don’t mind bragging that we had pretty good stuff on all of them. With Leiberman, the plan was to paint him as an erratic old-timer who didn’t have a clue as to what he was doing (pretty much a clone of McCain). In Romney, we had him pegged as an evil capitalist who cut jobs. Pawlenty was going to get the “Quayle treatment”, or more precisely: a pretty face, with no valid experience. Tom Ridge was going to be used to provide a direct link from McCain to Bush. As you can see, we were quite enamored of all of them.
Then the unexpected happened – Sarah Palin. We had no clue as to how to handle her, and bungled it from the start. Though through our misinformation networks, we have successfully taken some of the shine off. But let there be no doubt. She remains a major obstacle. She has singlehanded solidified “soft” Republican support, mobilized the McCain ground game, and has even had some appeal to independents and Hillary voters. This is what our internal polling confirms.
3 – Obama’s radical connections. Standards operating procedure has been to cry “racism” whenever one of these has been brought up. We even have a detailed strategy ready to go should McCain ever bring Rev. Wright up.
Though by themselves they are of minimal worth, taken together, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Father Pfelger, and now, Rashid Khalili, are exactly what the campaign does not need. The more focus on them, the more this election becomes a referendum on Obama.
The campaign strategy from the very beginning was to make this election a referendum on Bush.
Strategists have been banging their heads on how successfully McCain has distanced himself from Bush. This has worked, and right now the tide is in his favor. People are taking a new look at Barack Obama, and our experience when this happens tells us this is not good news at all. When they take a look at him, one or more of these names are bound to be brought up.
McCain has wisely not harped on this in recent weeks and let voters decide for themselves. This was a trap we set for him, and he never fully took the bait. Senator Obama openly dared him to bring up Ayers.
This was not due to machismo on the part of Obama, but actually due to campaign strategy. Though McCain’s reference to Ayers fell flat in the last debate, people in the Obama campaign were actually disappointed that he didn’t follow through on it more and getting into it.
Our focus groups found this out: When McCain brings these connections up, voters are turned off to him. They’d rather take this into consideration themselves, and when this happens, our numbers begin to tank.
4 – The Bradley Effect. Don’t believe these polls for a second. I just went over our numbers and found that we have next to no chance in the following states: Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire and Nevada. Ohio leans heavily to McCain, but is too close to call it for him. Virginia, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa are the true “toss up states”.
The only two of these the campaign feels “confident” in are Iowa and New Mexico.
The reason for such polling discrepancy is the Bradley Effect, and this is a subject of much discussion in the campaign. In general, we tend to take a -10 point percentage in allowing for this, and are not comfortable until the polls give us a spread well over this mark.
This is why we are still campaigning in Virginia and Pennsylvania! This is why Ohio is such a desperate hope for us! What truly bothers this campaign is the fact that some pollsters get up to an 80% “refuse to respond” result. You can’t possibly include these into the polls. The truth is, people are afraid to let people know who they are voting for. The vast majority of these respondents are McCain supporters. Obama is the “hip” choice, and we all know it.
As part of my research duties, I scour right wing blogs and websites to get somewhat of a “feel” as to what is being talked about on the other side. Much of it is nonsense, but there are some exceptions which give the campaign jitters.
A spirited campaign has been made to infiltrate many pro-Hillary sites and discredit them. A more disorganized, but genuine effort has also been made to sow doubts among the unapologetically right wing sites such as redstate.com.
Don’t you guys get it? This has been the Obama campaign’s sole strategy from the very beginning! The only way he wins is over a dispirited, disorganized, and demobilized opposition. This is how it has been for all of his campaigns. What surprises me is that everyone has fallen for it. You may point to the polls as proof of the inevitability of all of this.
If so, you have fallen for the oldest trick in the book.
How did we skew these polls, you might ask? It all starts with the media “buzz” which has been generated over the campaign. Many stories are generated on the powerful Obama ground game, and how many new voters were registered.
None of this happens by coincidence. It is all part of the poll-skewing process. This makes pollsters change their mixes to reflect these new voters and tilt the mix more towards Democratic voters. What is not mentioned or reported on is not the “under-reported cell phone users or young voters” we hear so much about. What is underreported is you.
I changed my somewhat positive opinion of this campaign during the unfair and sexist campaign against Sarah Palin. I will never agree with her on the issues and will probably never vote for her, but I am embarrassed of what has happened. I can’t ignore our own hand in all of this.
What I do know is that I will not be voting for Obama this time around. Treat that as you will.
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/31/former-hillary-staffer-spills-the-beans/#more-5818
Posted by: Let's see who is lying: | November 2, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Obama Staffer (Former Clinton Staffer) Spills the Beans
Dr. Lynette Long — a frequent contributor to this blog, a recent and influential member of Democratic national committees, a prominent supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton, and now a McCain/Pain supporter — just forwarded this to me from her “contact,” and asked that this be posted immediately. It is an astonishing read. Feel free to grab this for your own blogs, and send it on to friends by e-mail.
After a long and careful consideration of all the implications and possible consequences of my actions today, I have decided to go through with this in the hope that our country can indeed be guided into the right direction.
First, a little personal background… I am a female grad student in my 20’s, and a registered Democrat. During the primaries, I was a campaign worker for the Clinton candidacy. I believed in her and still do, staying all the way to the bitter end. And believe me, it was bitter. The snippets you’ve heard from various media outlets only grazed the surface. There was no love between the Clinton and Obama campaigns, and these feelings extended all the way to the top. Hillary was no dope though, and knew that any endorsement of Obama must appear to be a full-fledged one. She did this out of political survival.
As a part of his overall effort to extend an olive branch to the Clinton camp and her supporters, Obama took on a few Hillary staff members into his campaign. I was one such worker. Though I was still bitterly loyal to Hillary, I still held out hope that he would choose her as VP. In fact, there was a consensus among us transplants that in the end, he HAD to choose her. It was the only logical choice. I also was committed to the Democratic cause and without much of a second thought, transferred my allegiance to Senator Obama.
I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy the gossip or the attention directed my way. I’m doing this because I doubt much of you know the true weaknesses of Obama.
Another reason for my doing this is that I have lost faith in this campaign, and feel that this choice has been forced on many people in this country.
Put simply, you are being manipulated. That was and is our job – to manipulate you (the electorate) and the media (we already had them months ago). Our goal is to create chaos with the other side, not hope.
I’ve come to the realization (as the campaign already has) that if this comes to the issues, Barack Obama doesn’t have a chance. His only chance is to foster disorganization, chaos, despair, and a sense of inevitability among the Republicans.
It has worked up until now. Joe the Plumber has put the focus on the issues again, and this scares us more than anything. Being in a position to know these things, I will rate what the Obama campaign already knows are their weak links from the most important on down.
1 – Hillary voters. Internal polling suggests that at best, we are taking 70-75% of these voters. Other estimates are as low as 60% in some areas – particularly Ohio and western PA.
My biggest problem with this campaign’s strategy was the decision NOT to offer Hillary the VP slot. She was ready and able to take this on, and would have campaigned enthusiastically for it.
This selection would have also brought virtually all of her supporters into the fold, and the Obama campaign knew it. Though I have no way of knowing this for certain, and I do admit that I am relying on internal gossip, Senator Obama actually went against the advice of his top advisors. They wanted him to choose her, but the only significant opposition to this within the campaign came from Barack and Michelle Obama. In short, he let personal feelings take precedence over what was the most logical thing to do.
Biden, by the way, has been a disaster inside the campaign. Everyone cringes whenever he gives an interview, and he creates so many headaches as the campaign has to stay on their toes in order to disseminate information and spin whatever it was he was trying to say.
2 – Sarah Palin. Don’t believe what the media is telling you about how horrible a choice she was. Again, our internal polling suggests that though she has had a minimal impact on pulling disaffected Hillary Democrats to McCain, she has done wonders in mobilizing the base for McCain.
Another thing – we were completely taken by surprise with her pick. In my capacity in the research department, I looked into the backgrounds of Leiberman, Romney, Pawlenty and Ridge, and prepared briefs. I don’t mind bragging that we had pretty good stuff on all of them. With Leiberman, the plan was to paint him as an erratic old-timer who didn’t have a clue as to what he was doing (pretty much a clone of McCain). In Romney, we had him pegged as an evil capitalist who cut jobs. Pawlenty was going to get the “Quayle treatment”, or more precisely: a pretty face, with no valid experience. Tom Ridge was going to be used to provide a direct link from McCain to Bush. As you can see, we were quite enamored of all of them.
Then the unexpected happened – Sarah Palin. We had no clue as to how to handle her, and bungled it from the start. Though through our misinformation networks, we have successfully taken some of the shine off. But let there be no doubt. She remains a major obstacle. She has singlehanded solidified “soft” Republican support, mobilized the McCain ground game, and has even had some appeal to independents and Hillary voters. This is what our internal polling confirms.
3 – Obama’s radical connections. Standards operating procedure has been to cry “racism” whenever one of these has been brought up. We even have a detailed strategy ready to go should McCain ever bring Rev. Wright up.
Though by themselves they are of minimal worth, taken together, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Father Pfelger, and now, Rashid Khalili, are exactly what the campaign does not need. The more focus on them, the more this election becomes a referendum on Obama.
The campaign strategy from the very beginning was to make this election a referendum on Bush.
Strategists have been banging their heads on how successfully McCain has distanced himself from Bush. This has worked, and right now the tide is in his favor. People are taking a new look at Barack Obama, and our experience when this happens tells us this is not good news at all. When they take a look at him, one or more of these names are bound to be brought up.
McCain has wisely not harped on this in recent weeks and let voters decide for themselves. This was a trap we set for him, and he never fully took the bait. Senator Obama openly dared him to bring up Ayers.
This was not due to machismo on the part of Obama, but actually due to campaign strategy. Though McCain’s reference to Ayers fell flat in the last debate, people in the Obama campaign were actually disappointed that he didn’t follow through on it more and getting into it.
Our focus groups found this out: When McCain brings these connections up, voters are turned off to him. They’d rather take this into consideration themselves, and when this happens, our numbers begin to tank.
4 – The Bradley Effect. Don’t believe these polls for a second. I just went over our numbers and found that we have next to no chance in the following states: Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire and Nevada. Ohio leans heavily to McCain, but is too close to call it for him. Virginia, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa are the true “toss up states”.
The only two of these the campaign feels “confident” in are Iowa and New Mexico.
The reason for such polling discrepancy is the Bradley Effect, and this is a subject of much discussion in the campaign. In general, we tend to take a -10 point percentage in allowing for this, and are not comfortable until the polls give us a spread well over this mark.
This is why we are still campaigning in Virginia and Pennsylvania! This is why Ohio is such a desperate hope for us! What truly bothers this campaign is the fact that some pollsters get up to an 80% “refuse to respond” result. You can’t possibly include these into the polls. The truth is, people are afraid to let people know who they are voting for. The vast majority of these respondents are McCain supporters. Obama is the “hip” choice, and we all know it.
As part of my research duties, I scour right wing blogs and websites to get somewhat of a “feel” as to what is being talked about on the other side. Much of it is nonsense, but there are some exceptions which give the campaign jitters.
A spirited campaign has been made to infiltrate many pro-Hillary sites and discredit them. A more disorganized, but genuine effort has also been made to sow doubts among the unapologetically right wing sites such as redstate.com.
Don’t you guys get it? This has been the Obama campaign’s sole strategy from the very beginning! The only way he wins is over a dispirited, disorganized, and demobilized opposition. This is how it has been for all of his campaigns. What surprises me is that everyone has fallen for it. You may point to the polls as proof of the inevitability of all of this.
If so, you have fallen for the oldest trick in the book.
How did we skew these polls, you might ask? It all starts with the media “buzz” which has been generated over the campaign. Many stories are generated on the powerful Obama ground game, and how many new voters were registered.
None of this happens by coincidence. It is all part of the poll-skewing process. This makes pollsters change their mixes to reflect these new voters and tilt the mix more towards Democratic voters. What is not mentioned or reported on is not the “under-reported cell phone users or young voters” we hear so much about. What is underreported is you.
I changed my somewhat positive opinion of this campaign during the unfair and sexist campaign against Sarah Palin. I will never agree with her on the issues and will probably never vote for her, but I am embarrassed of what has happened. I can’t ignore our own hand in all of this.
What I do know is that I will not be voting for Obama this time around. Treat that as you will.
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/31/former-hillary-staffer-spills-the-beans/#more-5818
Posted by: Let's see who is lying: | November 2, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
seenitallx9 —-
look, maybe it’s to late to change your mind… but if you are listening to the MSM telling you over and over again that it is Sarah Palin’s fault for causing this problem, then nothing can change your mind.. remember it is the same MSM that tells you that if you dont vote for Obama you are a racist.. did you know that the secret services, FBI and police all agreed after investigating that 1 reporter claim that someone yelled “kill him”about obama, they all said that it never happened. they even told the obama camp it was not true and know what obama did? he announces during teh 3rd debate that people were yelling “kill him” about him.. wow talk about manipluating us and the MSM drinking it up and telling us how awful and racist we are… so of course Palin does not stand a chance of getting a fair shake.. btw, the PEW polling showed recently that more and more americans are more confident in Palin as VP than they are in Biden
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
THink we are going to be united come wednesday morning? THink again bucko. THis can of worms isnt going to close that easy. When you attempt to silence half of the country, you will get anarchy. Thats what you want?? Go ahead, call each other names, hate each other. Its all for the sake of a few power hungry jerks who are NEVER going to satisfy any of you – DO YOU HEAR ME???? NONE OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE HAPPY WHEN THIS IS OVER!!!! Keep calling each other names and then start killing each other… Some Future you all have given to my kids… THanks alot my fellow chumps.
If Obama had run as a third party candidate, and was not linked to marxist radicals, I might have believed him. But he didnt. he ran as a democrat, and everyone knows a democrat wants what isnt his. – OK so You want McCain??? Sure.. the moment he gets in he will just keep the bailouts to buisinesses coming..Oh boy….
Posted by: Jim | November 2, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
“Don’t call me a twit, you SILLY BYTCH. I’m just throwing your own stupid comments on birth in your face. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii- An American State to an American Citizen, to an American family. While you hypocritical bigots have a candidate WHO WASN’T EVEN BORN IN THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | Nov 2, 2008 8:14:13 PM”
Typical liberal, spewing obscenities when lacking arguments (and brains). McCain was born in a foreign country because his father was SERVING this country. You truly lack reasoning, it’s pathetic. It’s useless trying to bring sanity in debates with people like you, you always end up behaving erratically. That Kool-Aid, clearly causing long term, irreparable damage to one’s logic.
Posted by: joan cohen | November 2, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Ayers? I don’t know him. Wright? Who dat? The New Party? That’s a distraction. Aunt Zeituni? Well, let the immigration department handle her – we’ve refunded her contribution to the campaign. Peanut butter? I’m not a communist to give it to a kid in kindergarten! YOUR peanut butter? I’m gonna leave that alone. I am NOT a Socialist, I only belonged to the New Party and the CPUSA backs me! I believe the Constitution is fundamentally flawed. I’m going to bring fundamental change. “BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY?” “That’s just a smear!”
Posted by: Abu Nudnik | November 2, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
If it’s close, Mccain wins, if it it is a blowout, then it is Obama for sure. There are a lot of people out there that cannot make up their mind about Obama, wonder why.? He has been out there for two years and still don’t know much about him. My wife was leaning his way until she watched his biography, then she watched it again. She says ” this guy is scary, something is wrong” Now I have known it all along, this guy is bad news, but a lot of pewople wish for something new, but this guy leaves a lot of doubts. I can think of 20 maybe 30 reasons not to vote for him but decided’s are looking for a good reason to vote for him, but that little voice says ” don’t do it>
Posted by: F. Worden | November 2, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
If it’s close, Mccain wins, if it it is a blowout, then it is Obama for sure. There are a lot of people out there that cannot make up their mind about Obama, wonder why.? He has been out there for two years and still don’t know much about him. My wife was leaning his way until she watched his biography, then she watched it again. She says ” this guy is scary, something is wrong” Now I have known it all along, this guy is bad news, but a lot of pewople wish for something new, but this guy leaves a lot of doubts. I can think of 20 maybe 30 reasons not to vote for him but decided’s are looking for a good reason to vote for him, but that little voice says ” don’t do it>
Posted by: F. Worden | November 2, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
We know more about Joe The Plumber than Barack Obama. Won’t release his medical records. Won’t release his college records — perhaps it’s because he applied / or applied for aid as a foreign student. Was he the Indonesian citizen (Barry Soetoro) at that point? The Hawaiian certificate of live birth was done by a laser printer on a 2001 form. He is at best a “naturalized” citizen as his mother did not meet the requirements to grant him citizenship whether he was born in Kenya, as the paternal grandmother claims, or Hawaii. She had not resided in the United States for five years past the age of 16 — as she was only 18 at the time of his birth. Would we ever bend over backwards like this for Arnold Schwarzenegger? Can’t you hear the old Shaggy tune “It Wasn’t Me” droning in the background?
Posted by: Chris1022 | November 2, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Many of you folks are down right pathetic. I’ve never seen such vitriol and lies being perpetrated as here. And you talk about devisive? Does anyone rememeber “I’m a uniter, not a divider” and the country is the most divided as it has ever been. As for comments about Democrats and the slavery issue, you are failing to recognize that Dixiecrats were practically a third party and were not part of the mainstream Democratic party. They were more Republican in their thinking in terms of being exclusive rather than inclusive.
Sad how many of you are operating under such delusions. And if anyone steals the election, it will be the Rethugs. After all they have Diebold on their side, a company whose CEO said that he would do whatever it took to get G.W.B. elected. And you are naive enough to think he wouldn’t do it again? Thank God where I live we all vote by paper ballot and by mail so no one is disenfranchised by not enough machines, not enough ballots, people being turned away, etc., etc.
Celebration time, come on! We will, we will Barack you!
Posted by: catpurrson | November 2, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
*** sorry, I made it all up ***
Happy voting.
Posted by: Let's see who is lying | November 2, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Wow matteroffacts you need to really calm down! So she doesn’t agree with your p.o.v. and called you a name does that mean that you need to sink lower and respond instead of just ignoring it. Grow up!
Posted by: Arizonan | November 2, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Vote McCain/Palin!
Posted by: FL 4 McCain | November 2, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
I was at the Tallahassee/FSU and Joe just made the rowdies part of his speech. My favorite part about him thinking he heard a siren but determined it was just loud whining. You did good, Joe.
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Al Quedda has announced that when Barak Hussein Obama is elected, he will be recruiting ALL Muslim males for his new Civilian Homeland Security force, with the same budget as the US Military, $500 billion per year.
They will take as the first job, the murder and mutilation of all disloyal Democrats that do not pledge full financial support via donations to the Obama administration. He has all of their names, emails, phone numbers, and addresses from all the voter registration that his ACORN and Black Panther organizations gathered during the campaign. Republicans will merely be expected to hold down jobs with taxable incomes to support the welfare state. In order to fund the jobless and unskilled, his civilian military will have to elliminate permanently any excessive number of new born, and to intensify the abortion clinic he supports anyway.
Enjoy the Change and Hope you asked for, Democrits.
Posted by: RUFUS | November 2, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
So, stop using that tired, racial innuendo “Kool-Aid”- My argument is about as valid as yours regarding Obama’s birth, meaning both of our arguments are void- Me, I just, love you guys making fools of yourselves. You get so heated (hence my earlier labelling) you begin to fail to see the irony in what you speak. That, my dear, is call realism.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Let’s face facts, folks! McCain’s got the momentum these past few days. Dems look nervous while the McCain Palin staff is very upbeat. Why? Because their internal polling results predict upset. McCain by 8 points on Tuesday.
Posted by: Michael Giacalone | November 2, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
John McCain called Joe the Plumber “a great American hero” and a “role model”. Well, here’s an idea for 2012 GOP Presidential nomination – Sarah Palin for President and Joe the plumber for vice president. Who needs education anyways… God help us!
Posted by: CountryFirst? | November 2, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
AlKanadi: “Joe” has a track record for wife beating? This guy’s not a role model for an earth worm, much less working people. What’s the running tally on this guy so far? Not a plumber, not in a position to buy the business, owes for back taxes, owes for child support, priors for shoplifting and copper theft – and now, wife beating! McCain sure can ‘pick’ ‘em. First Palin and now “Joe”…Unbelieveably WRONG in the judgement department. Fortunately, we can pick them better. And on 4 November…We’ll be picking Obama.
Posted by: chester burns | November 2, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
What? Don’t twit and bytch rhmye. I thought it was lovely seeing as she kept throwing “kool-aid” in my face.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
catpurrson – You REALLY enjoy the Kool-aid, don’t you?
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
C,mon folks,
do your homework. Listen to this 22 month Senator who wants to suppress an individual’s zeal to create their own personal success, will give everyone universal health care, millions (billions) to the education structure, yet still give a tax rebate to nearly 1/2 the American population..tax paying or otherwise. Please, think about what you are asking for.
Posted by: Barb | November 2, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Thank you Joan.
Yes. Every child born on a US military installation is born on sovereign US soil. Been that way for a LOOOONG time now.
Same applies to children born of US parents abroad. They have a right to choose their citizenship when they reach their majority as well, if they choose.
Posted by: Snowman | November 2, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Ok,
Obama has been running around for the last 2 days putting out fires. The tracking polls are a number of days behind. The undeceides are breaking for McCain. The writing is on the wall for Obama. He’s going down, PA has already been called by a number of polls for McCain Ohio and ID have also gone red. Fla. is no turning red . The polls have been skewed by an Obama/Axelrod machine that has been pretty good. I wish Mccain had an Axelrod a long time ago. Every poll is now breaking for McCain. You Dems need to keep abreast of all th current track polls. Oops..Sorry you guys don’t have the sence to see hrough the Obama rhetoric..So there is no reasoning with you.
Posted by: Dan From Arkansas | November 2, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
At least they didn’t have vulgar words on their signs, like the Dem protester’s signs I saw at a McCain event. Can’t say I was surprised however.
Posted by: Ken L | November 2, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
obama will never be my president and I ahve never said that about anybody. I will never hire another minority in my life. the EOE can g to hell.
Posted by: todd | November 2, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Update! Looks like “Let’s see who is lying” is on track with regard to the bogus public polls taken thus far. Latest exit and telephone polling of those who have voted early across the Country indicate McCain leading O’Bama 49% – 45%. Within that breakout, McCain is cleaning Obama’s clock with those who submitted an absentee ballot, 52% – 28%.
Posted by: Michael Giacalone | November 2, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Sorry, Matter, you’re all wet. “Kool-Aid” refers to the Jim Jones massacre WAY back in the day when a persuasive, charismatic individual talked a whole lot of his followers into committting suicide by drinking Kool Aid laced with poison. Had nothing to do with race. Find another lame argument.
Posted by: Snowman | November 2, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
“Joe’s” writing a book now! He has an agent and everything. And he’s planning to try for Congress in two years time. He’s so busy, he flips McCain off and turns up late to rallies – and when he gets there, he doesn’t support McCain but advisers everyone to vote for whoever they think is best. Guess he wants to try to keep enough people happy so’ll they’ll buy his book. Wonder what he’ll call it? Who Cares! I guess it’s good for the dregs of the GOP base that they have one ‘winner’ coming out of their fear driven, hate filled campaign.
Posted by: chester burns | November 2, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Stop focusing on JOE THE PLUMBER as an individual, he is all of us. If you can’t see it, you don’t know. Everything the protesters said is TRUE.
ANOTHER DEMOCRAT FOR MCCAIN/PALIN
Posted by: drno | November 2, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Hey, check out the Drudge Report where there’s an audio of how Obama in January 2008 says under his plan he’s going to raise the price of carbon credits so high it will bankrupt the coal industry. What do we really know about this guy?
Posted by: Joe | November 2, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
read below Obamas comment.. wow another family member thrown under the bus.. he does that a lot haven’t ya notice.. i am just wondering,Obama supporters, are you a bit tired of the same old recycled speeches “that so and so is just a person i know, so and so is not an advisor to my campaign”
here is Katie Couric’s interviewing Obama on his Aunt, who btw has pictures of her beloved nephew all over her wall.
Couric: YOU HAVE AN AUNT WHO’S BEEN LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY APPARENTLY ILLEGALLY, AND YOUR CAMPAIGN SAYS ANY AND ALL APPROPRIATE LAWS SHOULD BE FOLLOWED. SO WOULD YOU SUPPORT HER BEING DEPORTED TO KENYA?
Sen. Obama: If she is violating laws those laws have to be obeyed. We’re a nation of laws. Obviously that doesn’t lessen my concern for her, I haven’t been able to be in touch with her. But I’m a strong believer you have to obey the law.
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
To ALL: What a pathetic bunch of posts. We’re Americans?????????
Shame on both your houses….
I’ll add myself to the list of fiddlers while Rome burns!
Posted by: Jim in Minnesota | November 2, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Ken L- like “Hang him”, “Kill Him”, “Traitor”, and “Terrorist” weren’t good enough?
And Snowman- Sorry, got too confused with the 10 dollar food stamp with Obama’s head on a donkey surrounded by ribs, a bucket of KFC, a slice of watermelon- and guess what KOOL-AID!!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Yup,
Now it’s turning to McCain… We all knew this would happen. Early voting always goes Dem.. Then the Repubs wake up..We have allot to loose with Obama. We Repubs know this Dems have there head in Obamas rhetorical double talk. McCain is winning whether you dems like it or not
Posted by: Dan From Arkansas | November 2, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
The Republicans are morally and ethically bankrupt. They have no class. Barack is a smart and classy guy who will make an awesome President. Trailer Trash Republicans, go ahead and move to Alaska with your equally trailer trash Sarah!
Posted by: Louise Riley | November 2, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
chester burns – Really? You’re using judgement as a measuring stick, and you’re choosing Obama. That’s funny! You should write for SNL!!
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Hey all you conservatives out there!!! Stop with the comments. These protesters were liberal plants. They were there to make sure Biden could stand up and act like he is for unity, that the Democrat party is for the greater good. The planted protesters were there to convince the dem voters to vote for their righteous leaders. That is the way the left does it. They create news and propaganda to keep their voters on the plantation, they use propaganda to convince the American people that they have overwhelming support for their ideas and their policies. If they didn’t use these tactics no one would even show up to their rallies. Hold your fire Republicans, expose their propaganda for what it is, this is a technique used by communist countries like Russia to hold sway over their people. If the dems told their people the truth they wouldn’t have a prayer in this election. When you respond (and I am not convinced that these nasty responses are from conservatives, I think they are planted as well to make it look like we are nasty) you provide them a platform for more propaganda. Don’t fall for it. The Dems are waging war in our country to try and bring this great Nation to its knees. We are not going to let them get away with it. Remember the polls and the media are propaganda machines of the left, don’t believe a thing they say.
Posted by: Nan | November 2, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
it’s so funny to hear the left complain about tactics they invented and use all the time. what a bunch of mindless people. check what obammi has said in the past no real american would toleralte his views but liberalism is a mental disorder
Posted by: yourgonnalose | November 2, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Obama is not classy. He’s a thug..He will always be a thug..you will find out this unless you don’t work.
Posted by: Dan From Arkansas | November 2, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
FM,
>How much does it cost to be civilized?
>What is the use of interruption?
You have got to be kidding! BO started this “get in their face” tactic. If you had watched the RNC you would have seen BO supporters attempt to interrupt the convention numerous times to which McCain supporters chanted back U.S.A…U.S.A…U.S.A… – a party that puts Country above the candidate.
Mr. I wont wear a American Flag (until it became the political correct thing to do) OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA won’t be getting my vote.
Country First! God BLESS the USA
Posted by: Bryan | November 2, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
joyceonamission- Why do you make judgement sound like a bad thing? Oh wait, you have none.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Throughout history, great nations have been destroyed from within. It was said a long time ago that democracy will end when the people figure out that they can elect people who will basically give the country away to the people who vote them in. Many of you are about to elect someone with the desire to do both. Welcome to the third world and enjoy your mistake!
Posted by: BobbyB | November 2, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Louise-
it was the dems that caused this financial mess. think Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank (who by the way is using the gay card, same as obama uses the race card), are responsible for this mess we are in. and Barney frank says “we gotta raise everyone’s taxes, not right away tho, but soon” do you honestly want this fat slob to touch your money again?? if anyone is smart, they would vote these people out on nov 4th. BTW- Obama voted “present” in 2005 (and he claimed that he wrote a letter to the secretary of treasury to “sound the alarm”) Obama hand was dirty, he received the 2nd highest payout form Fannie mae, that is why he voted present…
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Obama’s a creature from the deep….a liar a black hole (from astronomy, people) a man who is indebted to thugs, married to the most hatefilled woman in Chicago, and probably he already has a de facto conspiracy with William Ayers in charge of overthrowing the Department of Education, Louis Farakkan overthrowing the Department of Human Services, Tony Rezko will be his spokesperson (from his prison cell), and Reverend Wright will be preaching hate from the Whitehouse Lawn.
Posted by: winstonabcde | November 2, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
WOW you people are really intollerent socialst nuts. Your hate is bad for the country. afte BHO out spent mccain 7 to 1 and the press giving BHO favarable coverage 78% of the time and mccain 18% of the time IT’S STILL CLOSE think what that says…
Posted by: ralph | November 2, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Louise Riley – Obama is a snakeoil salesman. He has run one of the most underhanded campaigns in our history.
Just because he cleans up nice doesn’t make him classy. And calling the most popular governor in the US trailer trash doesn’t make you classy, either. You only hate her because they told you to. Why would you obey this?
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Unbelieveable comments from both “sides”. Only positive is that (I hope) this nation contains as many concerned voters who don’t choose to blog comments
Posted by: Barb | November 2, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Bryan-
you forgot to add, that at one of Obama’s rally,they decided to forgo the “pledge of allegiance” they decided they did not have enough time for it… i would rather pick someone who chants “USA” over “OBAMA” the sad thing is, these followers of Obama truly believe is will save them, they are in for a huge disappointment.
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
What are all the paid Obamatrolls going to do after the election? There’s no shortage of baristas, too bad for you.
Posted by: sander | November 2, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
On effigies and Guy Fawkes Day:
In recent years however the “guy” has sometimes, controversially, represented modern day figures of dislike such as George W Bush, Osama bin laden, Tony Blair and Saddam Hussain. And now Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
It’s interesting to hear Democrats complain about how “divided” the country has been under GWB. Exactly whose fault is that? The most divisive issue during this presidency has been the war in Iraq, and look what happened: the Democrats jumped on the bandwagon when the war was popular and jumped off the moment things got hard. They actually put themselves in the position of benefitting politically from our failure (which = American deaths) overseas. And many of you followed their lead. And now you want to gripe that people aren’t unified? If there’s an upset on Tuesday night, will you braying jackasses rally behind McCain in the name of the noble end of ‘unity’? Please.
I actually give Obama credit on this issue: at least he has been consistenly against the war, although I’m not sure the junior Senator helps himself by talking up the brave and thoughtful dissent he put forward as a member of the Illinois legislature.
For any of you bandwagon Obama supporters following the mindless “hope and change” crowd off the cliff, remember that you don’t have to actually tell anyone if you vote for McCain. What you do behind the curtain is your business. No to Obama!
Posted by: BTC | November 2, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
when china is drilling 90 miles off ure coast with russia bombers and missels are a threat.will obamas civilan military protectyou???when the blood runs in the streets remember who kept you safe ???bho is not a proven american try to get job with out proof of college records everything in youre background a secret.remember when the armed militas are on the street you had been warned and when you had a choice..may god protect us from what we are about to witness….
Posted by: bob75 | November 2, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
when china is drilling 90 miles off ure coast with russia bombers and missels are a threat.will obamas civilan military protectyou???when the blood runs in the streets remember who kept you safe ???bho is not a proven american try to get job with out proof of college records everything in youre background a secret.remember when the armed militas are on the street you had been warned and when you had a choice..may god protect us from what we are about to witness….
Posted by: bob75 | November 2, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
You Obama-Liars© sure can dish it out but ya can’t take it. No lump of coal in your Christmas stockings for you. Because your Barryboy is gonna do away with it. All of it. And Zipperhead Biden wants it all for China. Thanks for nuthin’.
Posted by: Wyatt Wingfoot | November 2, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Those protesters were telling the truth. We are in a recession now, but if Obama wins we will go into a deep depression. Taxes on companies will destroy benefits for workers and stop research and development. Companies will go overseas like they did when Clinton was in office. Obama may penalize companies for going over seas, but that won’t stop them from going. Hope everybody enjoys their little $500 a year because that is all you’re going to get and that small amount will not keep you in your house. My family is going to lose our health insurance because the company my husband works for has already told us the high taxes Obama proposes will force them to cut back on benefits. Why does Obama need a Civilian National Security Force? He wants to invest as much money in that force as the pentagon and our military. If you think national health care is a good idea just look at our school system or Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae. These organizations are all ran by democrats. More and more money is pumpped into these systems every year and they just don’t work. Those protestors at Biden’s rally are very passionate because they know what will happen if Obama is elected. Will Obama be tested like Bush was tested the first 6 months? Obama has absolutely no experience in national security. Maybe that is why our enemies want him to win? I remember the story about a man named Noah. Nobody listened to Noah. We all know the ending to that story. I sure hope I’m wrong for all our sakes.
Posted by: debbie | November 2, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Joyce-
remember, Obama’s followers have swallowed the kool aid. they react by ranting, name calling and resorting to childish behavior, they can’t help it because they learned it from keith O
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
When this is over and Obama and Biden and the democratic congress and senate finish crashing the economy,I don’t want to hear all you lib’s blame Bush. We were doing fine until two years ago when the democrats took over the house and senate. Fannie and Fredie are just fine aren’t they Barney. When the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010, your taxes will be going up about $1,500 for a $40,000 wage earner. But there are good folks out there that need your money, you know the first of the month only comes around every 30 days or so.
You lib’s are real dumb asses!
Posted by: Dennis | November 2, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Good luck Obama and supporters….be careful what you ask for. We’re going to get it real good now.
Posted by: brian | November 2, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Good luck Obama and supporters….be careful what you ask for. We’re going to get it real good now.
Posted by: brian | November 2, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Matteroffacts – Yeah, I’m just one of those sorry conservatives trying to defend, protect and uphold the Constitution by keeping someone out of the Whitehouse who would have to lie to repeat that Constitutionally required oath.
Why would ANYONE give their sacred vote to a man who thinks our Constitution is ‘fundamentally flawed’? It is utterly shameful.
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
I would start catching my breath if Mr. Biden decides to become Senator Biden again if Mr. Obama wins. The agenda will be made clear about his plans for America will be at about that time.
Posted by: john smith | November 2, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Dennis-
yeah we were doing fine until the dems took control. bush tax cut ends soon and Obama is not interested in continuing the tax cut. so much for looking out for the interest of the american people, the dems just want our money to spend for themselves.
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
I’m an Independent who won’t be voting for Obama or McCain, but I just want to say that this canard about Republicans being less intelligent than Democrats isn’t just untrue, it’s the opposite of true.
If we voted our IQs, Democrats wouldn’t win many races.
In most elections (ones that aren’t runaways) Democrats win the majority of high school dropout votes, Republicans the majority of college graduate votes.
Posted by: Romeo | November 2, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
How many O supporters will be “volunteered” to work in his new civilian defense force do you suppose? Is this the mandatory service he has been hinting at?
Posted by: akreativ | November 2, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
You people are all nuts! This is like reading your way through a dog fight!
What next – civil war?
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 2, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
obama’s civilian army??? as a community
leader , in his own book he admits he failed and now the real news about Chicaga comes out that they have the highest murder rate in America. My God we are headed to self destruction from with-in. I’ve never seen so much hate from young people. GOD HELP US.
Posted by: c chappell | November 2, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Donna Hughes – Then why are you here?
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
If Obama wins it’s time for South carolina to start the Secession II movement.This left-wing socialist is better suited to be President of France!It is amazing how he has snowed the American people into actually believing he is a bi-partisan moderate.His policies are no different than the ultra-liberal positions espoused by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid,he’s just a better liar.I have my Impeach Obama!bumpersticker ready to go just in case he wins.I had to look at your Impeach Bush stickers for eight years,now it will be your turn.One thing will be guaranteed,we “right wing fanatics” will do evertything we can to destroy this socialist’s Presidency.Bi-partisanship?Forget it!
Posted by: Richard S Geno | November 2, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Donna Hughes, count how many times you’ve heard “blood will run in the streets” if O not elected. All from his supporters Jong, Carvile, etc. You don’t hear that if McCain loses however. Seems O side understands they are not in control of the thug level in our society and fear it.
Posted by: akreativ | November 2, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
What troubles me is all the Obama hacks on here attacking Joe the Plumber. Obama campaign didn’t like his story so they campaign people come on web sites like this and write he is a wife beater. I guess that makes his question not a question. I guess that makes spread the wealth go away. I guess that makes his campaign staff the same as Gobels.
Posted by: Shane | November 2, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
joyceonamission-Fixed Noise takes everything out of context. Everything, unless it supports whatever case they’re trying to make. Me, I listen to whole interviews, not sound bytes, and I go to Factcheck.com, and all news syndicates like this one to form a well rounded opinion. Also, I find it deeply embarrasing that for someone like you to actually believe that Barack Obama- a professor who teaches the constitutions believes it to be “deeply flawed”. Besides if you put his quote in the context it was originally in- that is to say “A slave (or a black male) was only worth three-fifths of a white male (equivalent to 3/5 of a vote)” is what he believed to be deeply flawed. If you know your history this is called the three fifths compromise. Even though it has been ammended. It should be permanently ommited.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
You all are so silly…we have a small business. The year I started it I was making $16K. That number does not come close to my weekly check now! The good thing is that my house and cars are paid for…and my employees will be pink slipped upon Sen. Obama’s coranation so that I do not go into a 50% tax bracket. I can survive on much less, I have no bills so Me, I will stop spending..no new car, cut back going out to eat…and we will learn to survive on $100K a year…and DO IT NICELY, because the employees are gone!!!! Who gets hurt when I stop spending? I know you don’t have a clue but it will coem to you sooner later…HELLO!!!…you socialists JUST DON’T GET IT…I am just a small business owner and I am not going to fund your wine drinking and drug parties…most of you are failures..thats why you vote for your leader….one who will take care of you just like Castro took care of the Cubans! You can all be proud “Obamanista’s”!! Question…how manly does it feel knowing that you need to have this man…..”Take care of you”? Are you all socialist college professors or just dreaming to be one???
Posted by: G Edward | November 2, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Liberals are worried about the growth of economies all over the world. There simply isn’t enough to go around according to the environmental liberal democrats in our country and those like minded in other developed nations.
When India cranked out new affordable cars for their people the environmentalist were wringing their collective hands hard enough to increase “global warming” by at lest a degree.
So, why then would anyone believe the Democrats are interesting in sharing the limited resources of the earth with everyone in the United States? Aren’t these the very people who make a constant complaint about the unfairness of America using the largest percentage of the world’s resources?
The global warming / environmental crowd in this country have given the pretext for liberal government opportunists to raise taxes and re-engineer society. Green buildings, Green jobs, Green Morality, all these and other concepts are and will be on the forefront of the Democrat’s agenda after the election.
Can anyone remember this past summer when Bill Clinton went on the record telling Americans that we were going to have to accept austerity measures in order to get a handle on Global Warming?
Austerity, more people accepting less of everything, less quality of life, less comfort, less of what you thought the Democrats were promising if we vote for them in the coming election. Indeed, less of everything except “Big Government” in your face. When they get rolling their message will be that less is more. Meanwhile they are telling us that not wanting to pay more in taxes is selfish.
They tell us to our faces what they are going to do but we don’t stop to notice how one statement cancels the other promise.
We don’t notice that carbon credits are becoming a medium of exchange for wealthy individuals like Al Gore and who the Big money in this country will be making a market in this new economy. Instead we hang our hopes on a fairy tail and the nice people who promise to make our dreams come true.
When in all of the history of the world has the largest concentration of wealth not been in the hands of a very few? This has been a fact of life regardless of whether the economy is capitalist, socialist, communist, fascist, monarchial or tribal for that matter.
One big difference between the capitalist system and the other systems is that the wealth in a capitalist economy is in the hands of the private sector. In the other systems the government confiscates and controls the wealth and the common people are simply the labor class.
The most important difference is that the capitalist system truly provides “hope” for all who are willing to try to create wealth. None of the other systems can; and are simply not designed to allow that possibility.
There is not a perfect system that guarantees everything for everybody, but the capitalist system provides the best hope of freedom and the pursuit of happiness. That is true if your idea of happiness envisions wealth as a means to that goal or not. The other systems take away freedom and reduce the human spirit to resignation and acceptance that there is nothing that can be done to change life’s circumstances.
Make no mistake, wealth will be concentrated in the hands of a very few people at the top. Obama is wealthy and if he becomes president and the Congress is controlled by his party, (many of whom are wealthy), they will possess the access to the wealth of the nation. What they will not be able to completely posses they will control. For those in the country who are among the 5% wealthiest, those who know how to make and keep wealth, the Democrats will make deals to share power and wealth with their benefactors.
The 5% are the same people we are being told will bear the tax increases. Sure they will. Do you really think the democrats are going to kill the goose that provides their golden eggs?
The middle class and lower class will most likely be merged into one. In time there will be no way to distinguish between the two. The lack of a discernable difference will not be a result of the lower classes rising to the level of the middle class however. The new tax structure will be designed to take the middle class’s earnings and transfer it to the lower class.
If the lower class were a small percentage of the nation perhaps the middle class would have a slim chance of lifting the boats of the lower class. However, the endless supply of a lower class will make that impossible.
Lax immigration law being what they are, a willingness to live off the public, and the realization that there isn’t a reason to try to rise above the walls of the new system will grind the two classes into one. The jump between the new two class system will be so vast and the obstacles placed in the way by the new tax structure will become a steel ceiling that few if any will be able to penetrate.
Once the two class economic strata evolves the upper class will have to look though a telescope to see those of us in the other class, should they care to.
Anyone think they will be close enough to feel our pain then?
Does anyone really think these people really care about your pain?
Michel Obama told a morning show host this last year that the campaign was just about telling folks what ever they have to say to get their votes. Such a candid moment from a politician’s wife – I am baffled no one caught that for the U-tube parade of videos.
Austerity begins at home folks, get ready, it’s the change we are in for.
Posted by: Dave | November 2, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Btw, for you Republicans here: You should hope McCain loses. Think about it this way: If Ford had beaten Carter in 1976, do you think Reagan would’ve gotten the nomination in 1980?
So let Obama be president and spend four years trying to rebuild your party around some principles that actually separate you from the Democrats.
Posted by: Romeo | November 2, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
It would nice once again to be called “These United States” versus today’s “The United States”. I believe it is time to decentralize a lot of the power rested in Washington and redistribute the power to the States -> Both Parties sing a different tune, but they are all about the same thing – Power over the people. What we need is power for the people, protection both foreign and domestic. I’ve traveled Internationally and Americans are ridiculed and are reduced to crude humor; Domestically, you can’t travel to any inner-city because it is lawless. Try a stroll through DC sometime – you are taking your life in your hands; and this is our politician’s backyard.
Our police are paid pitiful salaries and disdained for doing their job, our teachers are treated worse by our current system. Will this change under Obama or Mccain? NO!
Our economy is in shambles not because the general public did not do their part – a minority both leveraged to much and gambled to much which jeopardized us all; Yet we are all held accountable through the taxes seen and unseen (inflation).
Why is everyone at each other’s throats for Obama or Mccain – talk about real issues, the media should ask real questions, instead of lobbing these trivial questions.
Posted by: none | November 2, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Why does Obama distance himself from images of African Americans? Why doesn’t he talk about civil rights now that he has the nomination from the democrats?
Out of 95 TV ads on BarackObama.com How many do you think show African Americans who are not members of the Obama family? How many actually have black people who are allowed to talk? if you guessed 15-20? You would be way high. Even if you guessed 5-10 you would still be way off.
The answer is ONE! Yes I am not lying here. ONLY ONE Obama ad has non family members who are also black in them. In only ONE commercial does the Obama campaign allow an African American talk who is not a member of his family!.
In 84 of the commercials it seems as if Obama wants to make sure that white America does not see adult black middle class workers receiving benefit from his presidency.
Now in contrast there are 10 Spanish commercials that reach out to the Hispanic community! Obama ran commercials in support of the Hispanic community 5,000+!
The ONE commercial ran by Obama in support for the African American population was ran under 800 times!
Yet I see all the black entertainers rallying around this guy! WHY? He does not support them!
Obama does not want to help the plight of blacks. Obama wants to get the nod of approval from the socialist who have inspired him!
I outline this in a you tube video. Search channels for tracyschillaci to find it.
Posted by: Tracy | November 2, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
“Only the ill-informed and ignorant support McCain. If you want to find out a person’s IQ, without actually having them take a test, just ask them whom the support in this election.”
NOW- I have an excellent assessment of this person’s IQ.
Posted by: Vaszely | November 2, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
“Only the ill-informed and ignorant support McCain. If you want to find out a person’s IQ, without actually having them take a test, just ask them whom the support in this election.”
NOW- I have an excellent assessment of this person’s IQ.
Posted by: Vaszely | November 2, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Unity ? “Healing” the nation. If Obama wins, the civil unrest that has been pinned up within white people who have had affirmative action and all the other garbage shoved down their throats for decades is about to explode.
Posted by: Angry white American | November 2, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Look at the very last comment…enuff said.
Posted by: surra069 | November 2, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Thinking people will vote for McCain/Palin. Socialized Medicine= another Gubmint screwup just like welfare, Social Security, Public Education and I could go on ad nauseum. You people just are’nt thinking things through voting for Hussein Obama. We also know more about Joe the plumber than we know about Hussein! Heck! We can’t even find out where he was born! Less than 1% charitable giving ’till he decided to run for dictator..uh….president I mean. World’s biggest hypocrite.
I’m Joe and I approve this message.
Posted by: Joe NOT the plumber | November 2, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Ok, so I don’t want a president who will not tell us anything about his college years, who bans TV stations who ask difficult questions, who ejects reporters from newspapers who don’t endorse him, who lies about campaign funding(in many ways), who allows his grandmother to live in poverty while living in a multi-million dollar home, who talks about his aunt in his book and then denies knowing she is here illegally, who has stated the constitution is wrong, who has a plan already to bankrupt the coal industry, who plans to have a strong and well funded civilian militia, who demonizes a civilian who asks a fair question. I could keep going, however, I’m sure that is not necessary.
Posted by: just me here | November 2, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Romeo, you make a good point. Conservatives did not do enough to pull back spending and misguided policies. I am not willing however to burn the house down in order to save it. I’d rather rebuild the shell.
Posted by: akreativ | November 2, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
What do you think will happen when Obama is the President and all his promises of
life for the poor being enriched by the
“spread the wealth around” and that does not happen? I sense that a lot of folks will be disappointed that there will be no free homes, and luxuries that they are planning on. Will there be a revolt? Will they be inclined to re-elect Obama? This will be very interesting, I believe.
Posted by: Triplets | November 2, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Don’t think the radical left doesn’t do the same stunts. I was at a rally with 12,000 attending for McCain compared to Biden’s (what was it?) 4,000 and the Obamabots were pulling the same crap!! And don’t be so dumb to think Obama has it in the bag – the polls are closer for McCain than they were for Bush or Reagan and they still won. Pride goeth before the fall.
Its not that our liberal friends don’t know anything – its just they know soooo much that isn’t so.
Posted by: amy | November 2, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
I see far more hostility coming from the right-wing here! It reads like a real hate-fest!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 2, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
I have often wondered how anyone who claims to be a Christian, a follower of Christ, can vote on any Democrat ticket, as their platform includes the right of abortion, taking innocent unborn lives and the Gay and Lesbian agendia, which are both contrary to God’s Word, no matter how you try to twist or turn it!! It is also disheartening to see so many on both sides to lower themselves by name calling. I am a senior citizen and veteran who fought for freedom, liberty and our Constituion to protect our right of free speech, but we all need to focus on issues and not tear oneanother down personally. I served in the military with, blacks, hispanics, asians and whites and trust me the “blood that was spilled for our freedom” was always the same, Red, and I was proud to serve alongside my fellow Americans, no matter what color or nationallity!!
Posted by: do kriens | November 2, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Obama and Biden are so full of deceit! They simply tell people what they want to hear, anything to get elected. John McCain tells you like it is, whether you want to hear it or not. Most dem liberals react to this, not by thought or reason, but with personal attacks and name-calling.
Posted by: Doctor Proctor | November 2, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
IQ and politics
http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
MatterofFacts. The 3/5th’s statement was taken out of the Constition. It’s called the 13th Amendment. And if Obama is so darn educated, he should realize that this country rejected it long ago. Doesn’t he know that the Civil War spilled the blood of countless white men who believed ending slavery was worth fighting for. Give me a break on this “you listen to the whole context”. Then you would know he DOES want to redistribute wealth.
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Notice in these comments the Obama supporters resort to negative name calling of McCain supporters, while McCain supporters mention facts. Interesting, the difference in tactics.
Posted by: Bystander | November 2, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
The most intelligent president, republican, IQ wise, was in fact, Richard Nixon, most least liked.
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Donna Hughes I agree. I’m sick of this these people are lost. I’m leaving.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Also, I find it deeply embarrasing that for someone like you to actually believe that Barack Obama- a professor who teaches the constitutions believes it to be “deeply flawed”. Besides if you put his quote in the context it was originally in- that is to say “A slave (or a black male) was only worth three-fifths of a white male (equivalent to 3/5 of a vote)” is what he believed to be deeply flawed. If you know your history this is called the three fifths compromise. Even though it has been ammended. It should be permanently ommited
the 3/5 rule was in place because due to the overweling amounts of salves in the south they would have controlled all aspects of the congress do to population count and the northern states may have been helpless
Posted by: wake up america | November 2, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Why do you post about all the men who are killed overseas. They jointed the military on their own no one made then like it was back when they had the draft. If you don’t want your kids to die tell them not to join don’t blame some one else for you faults as a parent.
Posted by: sam the shark | November 2, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
G Edward…nicely put
Posted by: Barb | November 2, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
When the facts become too much to handle, the Democrats MUST retreat. To be won over by logic and facts may cause them to instantly implode. Come back to the light Democrats, come back to the light!!
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Bearing false witness……..that summed up the whole McCain campaign, all negative, no substance. Geez, people don’t have THAT short term of a memory, it’s only been a day. And apparently, haven’t read this article.
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
You will get Obama, your taxes will go up, your civil rights will be taken, If you say a word against the “messiah” you will be investigated by people who just happen to support him. If there is corruption (and there will be) the American (Pravda) press will bury it, attack the accuser and attempt to destrot anyone who dares speak against Obama.. You have fun…
Posted by: p | November 2, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Fascinating how the Obamunists try to shut down & smear anyone, whether Joe the Plumber or the rare reporter that asks tough questions.
It’s only just begun if this Chicago Mobster makes it to the White House.
Thankfully, we Pennsylvanians know better, and will help put McCain, a true American, in the White House.
Posted by: Typical White Person | November 2, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Since Obama is so comfortable with redistribution, I guess he won’t mind if we redistribute some of the votes that were cast for him, to go to McCain.
Posted by: none | November 2, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
I am from Delaware. The only good thing from all of this is that we finally get rid of brain-dead Joe Biden! America will finally come to realize what most Delawareans already know, “Joe is the Village Idiot”!
Posted by: kathleen | November 2, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
American Taliban = Republicans…… Interesting considering that the democrats have been taking a page by page play by play from a book that created the deadliest regim this century. Yes I will say it Nazism. They may not want to kill jews but they definately wish to control every asset of your life. Just like this call by Obama for a civilian security force. Just another word for KGB or SS or secret police however you want to coin it.
Posted by: TJ45 | November 2, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Donna Hughes – Liberals must call it hate when they can’t win an argument of ideas.
No one hates Obama, just his plans for the country.
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Conservatives/Republicans, go out and vote no matter what you hear from the media or pro-Obama posters. They are doing everything they can to discourage you from going out and voting – some of these posters work for the Obama campaign posting these nasty anti-McCain and anti-Republican posts. You go out and vote – the shock could come to Obama, George Soros and all the loaded liberals trying to destroy American exceptionalism.
Posted by: Troy | November 2, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
akreativ said:
“Romeo, you make a good point. Conservatives did not do enough to pull back spending and misguided policies. I am not willing however to burn the house down in order to save it. I’d rather rebuild the shell.”
First, I think you flatter conservatives by saying that they merely “did not do enough” on runaway spending and other big government policies. Second, while Carter’s presidency was a miserable failure — the worst in my lifetime — even he couldn’t completely “burn down the house” before Reagan took over.
So forget McCain — whose policies mirror Obama’s on most issues anyway — and go look for your next Reagan (if you can find one).
Posted by: Romeo | November 2, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
joyceonamission- redistribute what wealth! What wealth do you have! Only 5% of the people in this country make more the $250,000 a year. Obama’s tax plan reads as follows: If you make under $250,000 you get lower taxes, if you make 250,000 your taxes stay the same, and what you make above $250,000 is taxed, not the whole 250K. If you make 280K, it’s just the 30K. And for businesses, you’re only taxed if you make a PROFIT of more than $250K. Go to Obama’s website if you want to know what his PROPOSALS are. Nothing’s ever guaranteed, but the best you can do is HOPE- and vote.
Also, before I leave this hate-fest you people should know that we ARE a capitalist nation and no matter how “socialist” a person may seem, WE DON’T DO REGIME CHANGES. WE ARE ALWAYS A DEMOCRACY.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Vote OBAMA and the Dems because they have the best ideas:
1.More abortion clinics, to eliminate the inconvenience of having children.
2.Teach sex to the kids that survive so they get aids and die anyway, we’ll blame Bush for creating aids.
3.Close sporting goods stores and gun shops, since evil rednecks buy guns and give them to inner city thugs to use to kill each other.
4.Tax businesses until they move all the jobs overseas, then everyone can qualify for welfare.
5.Legalize drugs, since we won’t have to whine about Republicans, we’ll need something to do.
6.Close the mines and turn off the electric grid, who needs electricity.(Al Gore says he is working on inventing something called a solar panel however).
7.No more drilling for oil, no more importing oil, looks like we will not be needing oil either, or cars. 8.Eliminate the military, we won’t need it since there won’t be anything here that anyone would want to take.
Finally, everyone living in the peace and harmony of Obamas audacious dream!
Posted by: Ken L | November 2, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
kathleen…serious question…most polls show Delaware as fully Obama. Interested.
Posted by: Barb | November 2, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Salivating like Pavlov’s dogs. It’s scary and pathetic that Obama and the MSM have taken control of the mindless, drugged up, emotional wreck’s and is using them to further their agenda’s. Of course with Marxist’s the end alway’s justifies the means.
Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 2, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
matteroffacts,
WHY would you want to raise ANYONE’S taxes???????????????
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Obama reminds me of Fascist Hitler…the similarities are just so stunning. I can’t believe are so gullible to vote for this guy—-all you have to do to learn about Obama is pick up a history book and read about Hitler.
Posted by: chattyway | November 2, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
QUESTION FOR ALL YOU ULTRA LIBERAL DEMOCRATS????? What are you going to do and what happens when the working class decides they aren’t going to pay for you to sit home and draw government assistance anymore??? How much do you think you are going to take for doing nothing?????
I’ll even quote HILARY!!!! Be careful what you wish for it may come true!!! Whatcha gonna do when the working class quit working too??? How stupid are you ???
Posted by: Dave | November 2, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Obama reminds me of Fascist Hitler…the similarities are just so stunning. I can’t believe people are so gullible to vote for this guy—-all you have to do to learn about Obama is pick up a history book and read about Hitler
Posted by: chattyway | November 2, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
In what can only be described as arrogance and presumption, Sens. Obama and Biden have taken to attacking and insulting the people in an effort to deflect accusations and questions re their pasts and positions. As an employee I am responsible and accountable for my actions and deeds, past and present. When running for public office not only is this required but a higher standard is invoked. To those entrusted with much, much is expected. But what we have seen from Sens. Obama and Biden has been a concerted effort, aided and abetted by apologists from all factions, to obstruct those who have a “need to know”, the people will deem their electability. Any attempts to nail down the facts of these gentlemen have been met with attacks and/or slurs. To wit; Sen. Biden calls paying more taxes patriotic. Does that mean disagreeing is “unpatriotic?” Sounds like the excuse for the Iraq War. Then he assails a news reporter for questions he didn’t like before Team Obama cut them off from further interviews. Sen. Obama is asked some questions by a private citizen and this man’s life is now made public and he is attacked for it. Throwing three reporters off his airplane because their respective papers endorsed the competition. Where the bipartisanship? Just recently Sen. Obama commented that it would be “selfish” for not agreeing to his proposals. We are not allowed to disagree?
This is the audacity of deceit.
And this is BEFORE the election. Can you see a trend here?
Posted by: ryan | November 2, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
The election is this Tuesday. If Obama/Biden wins, then they win. If McCain/Palin wins, then they win. I hope we can all get along together on Wednesday. Me? I wanted Huckabee but I will cast my vote once for McCain/Palin on Tuesday. Our country survived eight years of the Clinton presidency and we can survive Obama/Biden if they win Tuesday.
Posted by: R. Williams | November 2, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Whats up with that?
I thought people on the left only disrupted politicians….what? republicans protesting a political rally.
You freaks on the left can dish it out the criticisms but you sure cannot take it.
Posted by: mike | November 2, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Barak Obama believes in Social Justice – especially as it benefits (in his opinion) the victimized black community.
He embraces Black Liberation Theology, which teaches it’s followers to HATE white people. These are undisputed facts. Google it.
I don’t want a racist in the White House, I don’t care what color he is, nor a racist Mrs. First Lady. What books will she be reading to the school children in the library. Chilling to think about.
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Good thing the Dems never disrupt a Republican rally, eh? Or at least it’s seldom or never the title of a news story.
Posted by: paul b. | November 2, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Obama reminds me of Fascist Hitler
Funny, I didn’t know Hitler was a “socialist”
In fact Hitler was leader of a NAZI regime. You know fascism- what’s right of Capitalism.
I’m sure John McCain and Pastor Hagee will have a field day with that.
And joyceonamission… You can’t be serious? Before Bush took office it has always been “the more you make, the more you’re taxed” The middle class can’t take it now, and with the reputed economists backing Obama my guess is that it’s a wise choice. After all Obama, Buffet, and all of his celebrity and rich supporters see no problem with this so why do you? I doubt you make more than 250K a year anyway. So cry me a river… Bye.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Biden was thrown off of the intelligence committee for leaking highly classified data that cost American lives. Other than being a career crook and a traitor, he hasn’t done a thing. He is puppet of the left just as Osama Obama. Vote Vote Vote, like your life depends on it!!!!
Posted by: ratdog | November 2, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Remember folks:
Republicans vote this Tuesday.
Idiot Dums vote this Wednesday
Posted by: JLeeds | November 2, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
I have no respect for Obama voters. They keep talking about Obama’s tax policy, but they clearly don’t understand it. They just fall for the Obama lies. Obama is going to let the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010. That will mean higher taxes for the middle class, not just folks over $250,000. Obama won’t call that a tax increase, but it is. And his “refundable” tax credit will transfer money from those who pay taxes to those who pay none – spreading the wealth around.
Posted by: knudt | November 2, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Wife beater? Oh, so I guess that means that Mr. Obama really didn’t say anything about spreading the wealth. Glad I heard this before I voted! Thanks, Comrades!
Geez. Actually, if you took the time to read the court records from Arizona you’ll notice that it said case dismissed without prejudice. As far as I can tell it was a divorce proceeding, but I can’t see anything more to it.
Not that truth and stuff like official records will stop the Obamadrones and their ongoing smear campaign.
Also, if you’re ever accused and then not found guilty, I hope everyone continues to find YOU guilty in the court of public opinion.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | November 2, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
So McCain voters are dense. I am an engineer. I have over 10 patents. I am an American and I would put my work ethic up against most any other American.
America unlike any other country in the history of the world is different in that the founders were paranoid of excessive government. Why do you think we have checks and balances? They intended to shackle and limit government. However, they warned that America would remain great ONLY if it’s people were good/moral.
Ever heard of “Thou shalt not covet”.
Obama’s tax premise is based on one class coveting another’s wealth. 250K$ is clearly an arbitrary number. An arbitrary number can on a whim be arbitrarily changed(alread has. $250K then $200K then $150K and then $120K recently and then the most recent admission was by an Obama supporter that indicated that the middle class is actually $45K to $50K)
Through the schools applied over several generations, we have lost what America was based on. Socialism is like a cancer that destroys a free people from excellence. Do we really want to throw away what made this experiment is self government great? America has far surpassed any other nation in terms of defeating evil(World War II and the rebuilding afterward), lifting hopes of people worldwide, and providing a place for refuge from opression and tyranny.
So let’s throw it away with somebody who is so secretive that it is terrifying. I needed a security clearance for my first job but I can not figure out how Obama could obtain the most basic clearance based on his:
1. Associations
2. Unwillingness to release birth records, immigration records(how did he get back into the US when he was 10? Did his aunt learn from his example?)
3. College transcripts
4. Senior thesis
5. Grades
6. College financial statements(how could he afford Harvard Law? How did he get into Harvard Law? Were his grades up to par? Why can’t we find out his grades at Columbia and Occidental College?)
7. Medical records. He admits to taking drugs. When did he stop? Is there any other sort of proof other then his word which has been demonstrated to be unreliable?
Look at his voting record. ~130 times voted present. 6 times voted incorrectly. This guy at a minimum is a theoretically incompetent politician. Given his associations and secrecy, he could be far worse and possibly dangerous.
I know a lot about biblical propechy. I have always wondered about Ezekiel 38 and 39. For this passage to occur, the US MUST DECLINE. I can only come with 3 possible scenarios:
1. Economic collapse
2. Civil unrest followed by tyranny
3. Rapture which so decimates the leadership of the country that we are rendered as puppet state to some globalist superstate.
An Obama presidency in my mind could be mechanism that allows Russia to think that they have the green light to attack Israel. Also given Obama’s anti Israel bias(contrary to the liars who support him. I guarantee that he will be first president that sides with the opposition to Israel. He might not initially if elected but given time he will turn on our Jewish friends in Israel if he is elected.)
Bottom line. Barrack Hussein Obama Jr is not THE ANTICHRIST. However, he is an antichrist as defined by the apostle John. He is not a Christian. My guess is the that he is a secular humanist(atheist) has strong leanings to Gramsci who was a far more dangerous marxist than even Karl Marx. Read about this guy. He believed that to destroy a society from within you need to attack not only class but the basic moral structure of a society.
Posted by: jimbo | November 2, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
I am not a Republican. I am an independent who is going to vote for Mccain. I hate being labeled a Republican.
Posted by: Jody | November 2, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Matteroffacts
Who said I agree with a progressive tax system. I don’t! I don’t care who’s in power. It is a proven fact that when taxes go down, jobs go up, investment goes up and the whole economy benefits. If I made $10,000 a year I still think it’s wrong to tax progressively. And there’s just as many people who think Obama will destroy the economy as Buffets you can come up with. Common sense and history should tell you who to agree with. I don’t care to “stick it” to my fellow citizen to vote him a tax increase! I sure wouldn’t like it!!!
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Calling Obama a socialist is not a smear. It simply identifies his ideology. If you don’t like the word ‘socialist’, you can call it anything you like, but it won’t change the fact. And with his Global Poverty Act proposal which is estimated to cost the US about 65 billion/year to the United Nations over and above what we already give in Foreign Aid, you can even call him a global socialist.
Posted by: Amy | November 2, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Viva la, McCain/Palin!!!!
I have a great feeling and am very excited, as is everyone I have talked to, about McCain and Palin, I believe they will win. Even though Obama,the Obamanites and the MSM want us to believe he’s bagged it, I think that this is where he is (arrogantly) shooting himself in the foot. and Thank you so much, MSM!!!!
Many of his voters won’t go because they think he has already won, by MSM own propaganda, and the other big factor is the undecided, the PUMA votes, and the silent majority.
As the time is almost here, and Obama’s video’s have emerged and he talks off the cuff, he is showing who he really is. Of course he wants people to vote early, he has so much to hide that is slowly coming out.
Now we know that when McCain wins, it will totally be made into a race issue, even tho Obama was the one that kept throwing it out there. It can’t be because we see through his BS, just don’t like the man or don’t agree with him. That would be too easy. And James Carville tells us there will be riots,if there are, maybe he should be billed for the damage. I personally believe Americans are brighter than that, but I could be wrong. We will see.
Or it will be called fraudulant, even though “impartial” ACORN operatives have come out on film to say “Obama needs us and we need Obama.” and he gave an affiliate of theirs almost a million dollars to “get out his vote.”
I used to be a Democrat, I have Democrat friends and we just shake our heads at the way the party has gone to the radical left.
Both parties have a mess to clean up, both parties have their crazies and BS artists. But I am voting on National Security, and don’t believe Obama has what it takes by his own words and actions and (Biden doesn’t either)
I also prefer to side with life (of the least of us), Obama doesn’t when he votes against a BAN on partial Birth Abortion, etc., and makes promises (on tape) to Planned Parenthood, re: abolishing restrictions on abortions.
I don’t think he is evil, or a terrible person, but I totally disagree with his philosophy of life, at least what I have seen, heard, and read from him. I see a man that will promise anything and do anything to become King of the World, uh, I mean President of the U.S.
Posted by: lila | November 2, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
In Florida, I’m surprised the McSame whiners weren’t chanting “drill baby drill.”
Posted by: taxesforbigoil | November 2, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Amy posted above that Biden had 4000 at his rally, actually it was like 1000 or less.. maybe she threw in 4k to make the obama people feel important….
i agree with the person who said that we do not hate obama, we just oppose his plans, and that does not make us a racist. if Obama loses, it wll be because the MSM did not do a good job of vetting obama.
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Ryan, if you think that Obama intends to “get along” with anybody, you haven’t been paying attention. What he intends to do is:
1. take money from you and give it to someone else
2. locate, identify and shut down any one who dares so speak against him
3. establish a civilian militia to assert control over the population
4. increase the numbers of abortions and the ease of baby-killing up to and including the moments after the “birth” of aborted live babies
5. increase the identity and suppression of those who “bitterly cling” to their Bibles….
If you think you are going to “get along” with Obama and his policies, that only demonstrates one thing: you are already HIS, hook, line, and sinker.
So stop pretending your are just going to be “the loyal opposition” if your guy loses. There will BE no opposition tolerated to Obama. If you can’t pay attention even at the most elementary level, at least shut up.
Posted by: Ann | November 2, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Ryan, if you think that Obama intends to “get along” with anybody, you haven’t been paying attention. What he intends to do is:
1. take money from you and give it to someone else
2. locate, identify and shut down any one who dares so speak against him
3. establish a civilian militia to assert control over the population
4. increase the numbers of abortions and the ease of baby-killing up to and including the moments after the “birth” of aborted live babies
5. increase the identity and suppression of those who “bitterly cling” to their Bibles….
If you think you are going to “get along” with Obama and his policies, that only demonstrates one thing: you are already HIS, hook, line, and sinker.
So stop pretending your are just going to be “the loyal opposition” if your guy loses. There will BE no opposition tolerated to Obama. If you can’t pay attention even at the most elementary level, at least shut up.
Posted by: Ann | November 2, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
When is the millions of dollars – maybe hundreds of millions of dollars of illegal donations mostly from third world arab countries to Obama going to be the story. The story about how Obama spent the millions of dollars of illegal donations to buy the election? Is this proof enough to you leftwing journalists that Obama is a corrupt sleazebag? Caio! wwterry
Posted by: Ww Terry | November 2, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
wow, a liberal guest on a radio just called for Joe the Plumber to be killed. wow how classy of the liberals!
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Barb,
Yes Delaware is a blue state. It votes democratic in every election. But the fact remains that Joe Biden is seen as the “village idiot”.
I, for one, can not figure out how Dems think ~ nor do I want to.
Posted by: Kathleen | November 2, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Maybe we will all be lucky and if Obama wins, he can start his campaign for ruler of the world — that way he will spend as much time in the white house as he did in the senate! What a job—come in as a rookie and move to the to the top by doing nothing. Sounds like the owner’s son in a business — the press should have been investigating where the money came from—
Posted by: Mike | November 2, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
This is exactly why I voted Straight GOP this year. So sick of these phony Dems preaching bipartisanship then totally ripping into those who disagree.
Posted by: Noel | November 2, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Obama/Biden to unite us? how can he do that when he throws folk off his plane? When he cannot walk his talk, you should understand something is wrong.
And as for the myth that it is Bush policies that has brought our economy to this brink of disaster, it was the Democrats who put forth the legislation in 1977 and again it was the Democrats that tinkered with it in the ’90s and again the Democrats that stalled Republican backed regulatory fixes.
And let me share just another piece of factual information for those who care. Go to the 1934 Security Exchange Act, section 32 paragraph a) to read the corporate get out of jail free card. Now before you go blaming anyone for that, understand there have been no political efforts to eliminate that little loophole.
While tehre is much more out there you have not been told about, this should give you food for thought.
Posted by: Sane American | November 2, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
This is what you get when you drag 600 million dollars through the south side of Chicago.
Posted by: Thomas | November 2, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
i am voting straight republican too…. and i hope those who have barney frank, Reid, and pelosi in their homestate, vote them out! i don’t want those people touching my tax money and deciding what they will do with it.
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
As if to prove my point about the Republicans being basically no different from the Democrats when it comes to big government spending, I just saw Sen. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell bragging to his constituents how he had brought “$500 million to this commonwealth (Kentucky)”.
It’s funny: Clinton said, “The era of big government is over”. The current crop of Republicans — including McCain — seem to be saying, “Not so fast!”
Posted by: Romeo | November 2, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
As if to prove my point about the Republicans being basically no different from the Democrats when it comes to big government spending, I just saw Sen. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell bragging to his constituents how he had brought “$500 million to this commonwealth (Kentucky)”.
It’s funny: Clinton said, “The era of big government is over”. The current crop of Republicans — including McCain — seem to be saying, “Not so fast!”
Posted by: Romeo | November 2, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
HERE’S A SHOCKER, JOE:
EVERYONE USES ELECTRICITY, so you’d better know what Obama wants to do with coal (which powers 45% or more of our electric power plants)!
If you are an undecided voter, head to Google before you head to the polls.
Search “OBAMA” plus any of the following:
gas prices not too high
electricity cost skyrocket
Tony Rezko foreclosed Chicago
Ayers shared office
Ayers helped write books
NLP, Erickson
Rev. Wright best black church has to offer
Rashid Khalidi, Ahmadinejad, Columbia
Posted by: SK | November 2, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Romeo,
Yo Brainiac, don’t want to burst your bubble but the under $250K statement does not work according to the One’s tax calculator. Just ran the $200-250K scenario and got the word that I won’t be seeing a tax cut. Of course, the calculator has not been updated to reflect the fact that the number has moved down to $150K (per Joe Biden)…or is it $120K (per Bill Richardson). On the plus side, I will be more patriotic in 2010 when my Bush tax cuts expire and my taxes jump a few thousand bucks. The only thing making me smile is the knowledge that all you suckers who support the ONE will be truly surprised when your rates go up….and your check to the IRS bounces due to lack of funds.
Posted by: Abby | November 2, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Hey taxbigoil,
This is off subject, but because you chose the name you did, here’s an FYI.
ExxonMobil Posts Biggest US Quarterly Profit Ever.”
It was a $14.8 billion profit in the third quarter, largest ever.
Their taxes were $11.3 billion.
That’s a record tax payment for ExxonMobil in one quarter: $11,327,000,000.
People are saying, “Their profit was $14 billion!”
The tax was $11 billion.
The bottom line is Exxon is paying a whole lot of taxes on whatever profits they are making
Posted by: joyceonamission | November 2, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
how can anyone believe that Obama will bring change? look at where he comes from< chicago has one of the highest murder/crime rates in the US! all of his assoicates are either under FBI investigation, in Jail or have history with the law…. one of Ayers book "praire fire" honors Sirhan Sirhan, this is the man who murdered Robert Kennedy. how can the Kennedy's stand with Obama? even Obama would not be cleared for FBI, CIA given all his connections to these criminals and he is so close to the presidency.. he has not been vetted!!
vote for your country!
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
ARIZONA, praying for the battle states, stand up and be counted Obama,is going to ruin you. He’ll bankrupt you and your family. WAKE up stand up and fight, next NOBAMAMA, will take your free speech and weapons, we will not be able to defend ourselves against his civilian militia, which he will order to carry out his programs. I pray that many of you young people wake up, Stand up for your values, and constitutionl rights. GOD BLESS AMERICA. GO/MCCAIN and PALIN. PTL
Posted by: OMGptl | November 2, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
McCain / Palin will win by a landslide! Obama is a liar and a fraud. Americans are not stupid. They will not vote for obama. Many of the Dems who have allready voted voted for McCain. My extended family all 17 of them. They are all registered Dems. 15 of them voted for McCain. I am sure that many more families are just like mine!
Posted by: Ashley | November 2, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Mr. Democratic Five-pin,
allow an ignorant McCain supporter to correct your multiple errors:
Only the ill-informed and ignorant support McCain. If you want to find out a person’s IQ (*ignorance has little to do with intelligence*) , without actually having them (*you have an agreement problem here*) take a test, just ask them (*agreement problem again*) whom the (*?*) support in this election.
Posted by: Miguel | November 2, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
1) Yes, the Paid / Volunteer Obama people are heavy hear tonight. 2) The 2 EV predictions for McCain raised my eyebrows. There are only 3 ways to make such a comment. a) just a guess/wishfull thinking b) has a thorough understanding of how challenger / incumbent poll numbers work on election day, or c) has some knowledge of the internal polls of both the Obama and McCain Camps.
3) In the Green Twp. Ohio McCain/Palin rally a fellow was standing at a gate holding an obama/biden sign. Attendees started jostling and poking at him. McCain people came out and stopped it. No one bothered him again. On the other side of the stadium, A group of Obama supporters heckling and blocking the path to the gates forcing attendees to walk around them. There are idiots in both parties.
Posted by: DB Akron | November 2, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Abby,
You clearly have my name associated with someone’s else’s posting.
Posted by: Romeo | November 2, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Why are some of you attacking and smearing Joe the Plumber? He is not running for president. The wife beating thing is way out of line..there is no proof of that…unless your Obama *Stasi* ransacked those private records, too.
Posted by: St. Lucie | November 2, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
wow- did we drive most of the dems away? aww come on,you dems are no fun, come out and play with us!
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
I cannot WAIT for this election to be over with so these idiots will FINALLY shut the he** up and get back to wasting my money without the constant blathering. Enough is enough! If BOTH parties would just shut the he** up about how the other party is out to destroy the USA then maybe people would be more willing to act civilly toward each other. But then, if they did that, the American people would no longer be divided and would suddenly recognize that it isn’t the other party that has been screwing us, it is the GOVERNMENT that has screwed us so badly. WAKE UP AMERICA! It doesn’t matter WHO you put in the White House, we will continue to get raped and have our freedoms stolen from us along with our money! All that will change is the name of the idot to be hated immensely!
Posted by: Scott | November 2, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
IN RE: Matteroffacts: You must have gone to an inner city public school. Hitler was the head of the NAZI Party which was The National Socialist Party. If you were to go far to the right of the Republican Party you would have anarchy (the absence of government) If you go to the left of the Republican Party you get into more and more government control from NAZI to any form of dictatorship until you get to communism where it is total government control. Obama is over there with the leftwing nut cases for more and more government control. What this meaans is Obama is power hungry. Obama is a scary wack job. Caio! wwterry
Posted by: Ww Terry | November 2, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Scott-
that is why we need to vote all new people in. we need to hold whoever is currently in office accountable and vote new people in. that is the power of voting!
Posted by: GoPalin | November 2, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
where is the tax break at 250,000(barak), 200,000(barak), 150,000(biden), or as Bill richardson said 120,000. Obama wants to bankrupt anyone who wants to build a new coal plant. Wants to create a new type of national police force (sounds like we may need to carry papers). He wants to give money as a tax refund to those who don’t pay federal tax because they get it all back at the end of the year but he will give them more HMMM. that’s the American Way. Like his infomercial make sure families have enough money so they can buy there kids snacks.
Posted by: T C P | November 2, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Here is the Obama supporter’s new mantra:
Kill baby, kill!
Posted by: stefan | November 2, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Obama will fail top secret security clearance if he is elected. He has too many dubious associations and too many conveniently missing documents.
Posted by: St. Lucie | November 2, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Remember this is the guy who got 700 votes in the NH primary, and gets about that many at his rallies.
http://www.youdecide2008.com/2008/11/02/the-obamedia-will-lose-mccain-supporters-unite/
Posted by: NH NOBAMA | November 2, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
This nation would not be so divided if it weren’t for the leftwing being such a radical anomaly of hate, arrogance, and marxism. I’m tired of the lies, deception, corruption, and hate America bile from democrats, progressives, hollywood, and MSM.
I’m voting for McCain/Palin because I believe in someone’s right to live over someone’s right to selfishness. I’m voting for McCain/Palin who genuinely love this country and the principles that created and make it greater than all others.
Posted by: TW | November 2, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Endorsements???
How about Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega, President Tom from Iran, Fidel Castro, Al Queda in their new we don’t want to hurt Obama’s chances form….we want Bush embarassed?!?!?
It is so politically trendy to bash Cheney….it sounds retarded…ooohhh oh big bad Cheney.
B.O./Biden is a joke. I hope America doesn’t end up a joke after Tuesday.
Barrack Obama is NOT COOL!!! Do you even know who he is???
Concerned American.
Posted by: Chris F. | November 2, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Joe the plumber could have been a Rotary Club member with the cash to buy a plumbing business and employ a hundred people and the democrats would have accused him of being a greedy selfish businessman that oppresses the poor.
But, If Joe the plumber turned out to be an ex convict and ate little puppies raw in front of little children it wouldn’t change what Obama told Joe that wanted to spread the wealth and that he thinks that is a good thing to do.
Truth is, the Democrats have no stake in the poor and middle class being self reliant because self reliance does not need them.
Therefore the lower and middle class should not expect to receive anything but empty words, false promises and a cold shoulder until the next election.
One thing they can expect to receive will be Pink Slips from their employers.
Posted by: Dave | November 2, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
There is a silver lining in the event BO (Jimmy Carter redux) is elected. It will lead to the reappearance of Ronald Reagan.
Until then, we can all stick our hand out for our share, right? Take from the rich, give to the poor, middle class, upper middle class, etc.
I can’t wait to see how this new math would work out.
Posted by: Dennis Patterson | November 2, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Vote all you want for McGoo. He won’t win. People are tired of the repubs. That’s why they are doing so poorly in congressional re-elections.
Posted by: oo | November 2, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
-Obama gets a 100% rating from NARAL in the tank for unlimited abortions.
-Freedom of Choice Act.
-Global Poverty Act
All of you Obama supporters I have challenge. If your guy is tragically elected, we need a pool whereby all of the McCain voters can track at what point does each and every OBama supporter regret their vote for Obama when Obama betrays one of his key personal campaign promises that finally is the “dealbreaker”. We should update on a monthly basis plotting time versus number of Obama supporters that have turned on him because of his dangerous policies.
By the way. What exactly are the key issues that his supporters are relying on.
Is it taxes? Eventually even the $50K income earners will be soaked.
Is it universal health care? Rationed system that will get far worse than what we currently have.
Is is getting out of Irag? Reducing dramatically the size of the military because we will not need to fight any more? Tell that to the Chinese, Russians, Iranians, North Koreans who are diligently seeking nastier weapons upgrades and systems(wonder why they would be doing that?)
Back to taxes:
Will he stop just at $250K as to the tax increases? We already have the answer. During the debate he said $250K. However, he just said during his informercial $200K. Joe Biden slipped and said $150K. Bill Richardson said $120. One of Obama’s spokepeople on Fox was questioned and said that the middle class is actually $45K to $50K.
You see when you consider that Obama considers himself a “Citizen of the World”, he compares the middle class not within just America but also with respect to the whole world.
$45K is rich compared to the third world. Boy are you Obama supporters in for a shock when you find out that he considers even you upper class. He knows that he cannot raise your taxes right away. He will need a little time. However, when you are not paying attention but still drinking his Koolaid, we will increase even your taxes because even you are rich compared to world standards.
READ the Global Poverty Act in which he is a cosponsor.
Posted by: jimbo | November 2, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Romeo,
My apologies…I think my comments regarding “Brainiac” behavior should have been directed at comrade Matterofnofactsavailablesomakethingsup.
Posted by: Abby | November 2, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Dennis_Fentie?
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Chad –”sick of their divisiveness.” Well, I am sick of only thebleft being the only way in this world-Agree with them or else!!
Posted by: SueG | November 2, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Ww Terry: Hiter wasn’t a socialist. He kept the name because that’s what the German people wanted. After he was in power, he “eliminated” people in his party like Ernst Rohm (Night of the Long Knives) and the SA who still had socialist beliefs. So will Obama eliminate anyone with love for the bourgeoisie.
Posted by: twain2008 | November 2, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Liberal crackheads,
After hearing nothing from you over the past 8 years but unbridled vulgarity, mindless venom and hatred to the point of encouraging asassination of a Republican president, and abuse heaped upon Republicans in general, do you think we will just “forget all about it?” I promise you there will be no bi-partisan “come together” sentiment from most conservatives if Obama wins.
Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. And be afraid of an honorable body of people who are fed up with your garbage.
Posted by: JC in OBX | November 2, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
People believe that Obama will be compassionate and help them. Obama’s aunt lives in a Boston slum. Also, his brother is in a hut in Kenya. Obama cannot even help his own family. I believe Obama to be very cold and calculating individual. Obama is only about the power and his agendas.
Obama does not represent the Democratic Party. He is very left wing outer fringe kook. It is very dangerous to have someone like Obama in power in the dangerous world that we live in today. His running mate Joe Biden stated that Obama will be tested in the first six months and there will be international crises. Meaning that Obama will be perceived as weak by the dictators and terrorist thugs around the world. America does not need Obama and the disaster that he will bring in foreign policy and our economy.
Many lower income people are excited about getting a tax cut. There are 40% of Americans who pay no taxes and would get a welfare check. All of this at the expense of taxing the wealthy and business. This will kill job creation and innovation in our country. Higher taxes will cause business to cut cost and thus employees. Also, the cost of goods and services will increase to help with the tax increases. This type of economic plan will cause massive unemployment and put our economy in a deeper recession.
I have never gotten a job from a poor person. Job creation only comes from the wealthy who own business.
We cannot afford to risk the poor judgment and inexperience of Obama.
Posted by: Dean | November 2, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
I just read ALL the postings! There’s something wrong with the Democrats who post on here! You guys need to reread what you have written. You’ll be shocked by how many vile, close-minded, ignorant things you have posted. How you ever think Obama will be able to unite people is beyond me. You may think Obama is “the one,” but many us of will not blindly follow him like you — because of his radical ways & his nasty disciples.
Obama, if elected, will have a failed presidency for sure.
Posted by: Jan | November 2, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Predictions if Obama wins: 1) two Supreme Court members will retire – both Liberals and so no change on their liberal replacements. 2) economy slips into a deep recession with unemployment up to 9.5% at the worst 3) drop in taxes by companies and individuals will result in record deficits by states and US government. 4) drop in sales taxes will make schools lay off staff and local and state governments to cut back drastically on services. 5) proposed tax increases by Obama will never be approved by House members afraid of their next election. 6) GOP will sweep into office with a result of an economic recovery and GOP wins again at all levels in the 2012 elections. Net result of the Obamanation? Destruction of the Democratic party as we know it – don’t say you didn’t know this would happen when you gave Obama the nomination.
Posted by: Dennis in Ohio | November 2, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Jimbo even our Poor are wealthy compared too other countries. Do you think third world countries are concerned if they are fat or not? That is the problem. Even the poor do not relze how good they have it compared to other countries.
Posted by: J | November 2, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
95% of blacks will vote for Obama. If the same percentile of whites voted for McCain, most would be called racists. So where is the real racism?
Posted by: Sid | November 2, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
For all you Obama fans -just remember – if you make a wish it might come true! If Obama wins and his failed economic policies further tank our economy – then who will you blame?
Posted by: CountryFirstMom | November 2, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Of course Joe Biden can’t say anything, he didn’t get a look at each of their faces to shut them up! Just wait till he gets into office. He wants the communist approach so the 1st Amendment will be retracted. Now we have the latest story on Obama wanting to bankrupt companies who work in coal. Basically, they will destory anything and anyone who they disagree with. You ain’t seen nothing yet. We have the “civilian military force”, spreading the wealth, open union votes, penalyzing small businesses, taxing 401k’s and pensions….DO I SEE A PATTERN HERE? Only because Obama has been mentored by a communist, Frank Marshall Davis. He befriends people who share the same theology…William Ayers, Bernanidine Dorn, Rev. Wright,and his seeking out “Marxist professors”. When will America wake up about this man? Be afraid, be VERY VERY afraid!
Posted by: justrighttoo | November 2, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Remember September 12th when the skies were clear and we were all Americans? What changed? Everyone else in the world looks at us as one people, we’re the only idiots that think of ourselves as individuals. Like it or not those people in those other countries fear us, are jealous of us, and or despise us. We need to get it through our thick skulls that we are Americans, nothing we do will satisfy those who are in our debit. Those who raise their children to die in a suicide attack will not rest until they replace our government with their version of Islamic law. Don’t think its possible? My Father didn’t think it was possible for a radical, who publicly espouses Marxist thoughts and press control tactics, to hold an office of mayor in the 1960s. Now we have one polling like he’ll be the next POTUS. Well at least he learned to place his hand over his heart (salute) when the national anthem is played.
For you Koolaid drinkers out there, why are you happy to be the first generation of Americans who require two attacks, strike that three (World Trade Center 1993 & 2001), strike that four (Kobar Towers), strike that five (US Embassies in Africa), strike that…aw crap…before we realize we at war for our very existence? Your computer and the internet bring the very thing Islamist hate right into their homes.
Our troops are providing an opportunity for self determination where there was none before. That should make us who love freedom proud. That is unless we don’t like seeing a country develop by our hand where each person is only allowed to vote once because they all vote on one day and get a purple finger to prove it, while our own elections seem rife with voter fraud.
Seems to me there might be a thing or two to shout about…
Posted by: Tim | November 2, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
McCain WILL WIN
Just let the obamabots think what they want.
Posted by: Shirley Finey | November 2, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
95% of blacks will vote for Obama. If the same percentile of whites voted for McCain, most would be called racists. So where is the real racism?
Posted by: Sid | Nov 2, 2008 10:01:54 PM
That’s pretty much the same percentage that blacks vote democratic anyway.
Posted by: annie | November 2, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Freedom of speech for everybody who agrees with you, right libbies? Whatever happened to “protest is patriotic”? Assholes….
Posted by: Jules | November 2, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Do you plan to steal the vote Stalin?
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Only the Socialist, racist and dreamer will vote for Obama. The only American choice is McCain. I hope these same children will wake up four years from now when we are in ruin…that’s if Obama wins. If he wins it will be because of fraud because the polls and media aren’t to be trusted. Biden is dead wrong if he thinks this country will heal or come together. The Patriots will never support Obama and that includes our military. If he pushes too hard we may just see a repeat of Caesar’s demise at the hands of the Praetorian guard.
Posted by: Nihil | November 2, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
$250k, then $150k, then $120k. By the time he’s in office $40k will be enought to classify you as “rich”. Clinton did the same trick. It’s nothing new. Still people keep falling for it. That’s the result of falling in love with a politician.
Posted by: twain2008 | November 2, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Didn’t see ANY liberal post on here, hmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
You clowns have had 8 years. No more.
Posted by: oo | November 2, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
You know JLeeds, you shouldn’t make statements like that, most democrats will believe it. You will be accused of trying to prevent their vote from counting.
Posted by: TonyG10 | November 2, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Biden will reach out to us “in the parking lot” sure enough. With two hands to strangle the life out of us.
Posted by: twain2008 | November 2, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Biden…what a narcissist this guy is. I bet he masturbates in the mirror….
Posted by: Justin Credible | November 2, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Watch out for the Bradley effect. If Gore and Kerry couldn’t do it, do you really think a young racist black man with less experience than Sarah Palin is really going to win. Just keep believing the liberal media and then be ready to wake up on Nov. 4th!!! See you at the polls suckers!!!!
Posted by: Allah | November 2, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
You think evrything will be fine and dandy after the election and the country will be one again, think again. Obama will not be the healer he thinks he will be.
Posted by: BRN | November 2, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
It’s starting to dawn on the American people that Obama will transfer the wealth of middle class Americans and small business owners to groups that he selects.
Posted by: Kevin | November 2, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Is this the GOP venting board? Haven’t seen a liberal here, but GOP having invisible liberals they’re talking to, interesting.
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Allah, no one liked Gore or Kerry. Whether you agree or not they didn’t excite people like Obama does.
Posted by: annie | November 2, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Abby, no problem, mistakes happen.
Has anyone googled “Obama electric rates skyrocket”? If I were McCain, I would pull every one of my old ads off the air and run only ads about this gaffe. And talk about nothing else.
Dennis in Ohio at 9:59:47 PM: Interesting and thought-worthy predictions about events under President Obama. I’ve been trying to make the same point here: The Republicans (or at least the conservative ones) would be better off with an Obama presidency than a McCain one.
Posted by: Romeo | November 2, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
The only reason the public knows so much about poor Joe the Plummer is because Obama’s truth squad dug into his private life because he dared to question “That One”. The same way they will dig into your background the first time you open your mouth to protest when they raise your taxes, send your babies off to “commy day care”, draft your sons and daughters into their civilian indoctrination corps…etc etc. Do you have any idea what you people have done by unleashing this man on us?
Posted by: DJ | November 2, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Anyone reading this commentary or lack there of, would think this is a whiny GOP board, who are trailing badly.
P.S. You can’t have the Bradley effect with the electoral college.
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
I wish McCain would talk about Obama punishing Americans for being successful. The democrats are all about discouraging people from working hard and being successful. “If you make too much money…we’ll punish you and take it away!!” That’s not the American Way and it should never be.
Posted by: belinda | November 2, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Obamas on tape saying he will destroy coal industry…Wake up you kool-aid drinkers…
Posted by: afred | November 2, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
The gulf between left and right is too deep and too wide to ever be reconciled peacefully. There is no concensus, only polarization. This started during the Bork and Tower confirmation hearings and was exacerbated by the Arky White Trash Clit-on. Conservatives were caught napping by the viciousness of the left. We believed in the common decency of our fellow human beings up to that time. Then things got worse. They won’t get better fro a long, long time.
Posted by: Little Bobby Wexluh | November 2, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
I see the usual hate-filled liberals are back again. You know, the morons who can’t see Obama for the empty suit he is.
I guess it’s OK for McCain rallies to get protested, just not Democrat rallies.
It’s the Democrats who keep pushing class warfare and divisiveness, not Republicans, just like it was Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act and supported slavery.
Posted by: Chris | November 2, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Nothing like some good ol brainwashed Democrats we have here.
Posted by: McCain not Hussein | November 2, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Joe the Plumber – you are the new Republican icon. You make Ronald Reagan look like a wimp. You make Lindsay Graham look like a girl. Fred Thompson looks like a washed up hack next to you. You will make a great Secretary of State in the Palin administration.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
why is it that liberals only care about the freedom to murder babies while inside the womb & not any type of economic freedom? why can’t we be free from Gov’t intervention in all aspects of our lives.
hasn’t the Gov’t failed at most things it tries to do?
please don’t send our country into deeper socialism. look at those quasi-socialist countries out there. do we wan there standard of living?
Posted by: VTech | November 2, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
What a bunch of whiney babies here. Whoever wins should be supported no matter what.
Posted by: oo | November 2, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
There’s democrats here? LMAO Where? Are they invisible?
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
No matter which one wins, we all lose. Some of you are just too stupid to figure that out. McCain and Obama are both crappy choices.
Posted by: Rbx | November 2, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
What does Obama mean he wants a special citizen protection force just as powerfull as our military is this to enforce the fairness doctrine to shut us up?
Posted by: T C P | November 2, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Obama is my illinois senator..129 times he has failed to vote one way or another on key issues…with this record in congress who in their right mind would ever vote for this clown ?
Posted by: afred | November 2, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
So Obama understands middle class Americans have it tough. He doesn’t seem to mind it in his “green” idealogy. Stop future coal mining and that’s another huge import we’ll be paying for:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-well-bankrupt-any-new-coal-plants/
Obama says :”Under my plan, the cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” He goes on to relate how middle class Americans will just have to get used to paying lot higher bills for electricity.
If he puts Al Gore into office, with his maniacal “green” agenda, God help us all. Of course, Gore lives in a monster size home, uses private jets but says he “pays” for his carbon footprints. For those too lazy to educate themselves, it is a theory that wealthy people could continue to consume energy, etc. as long as they were willing to pay money for it. For Americans who aren’t wealthy, we will be forced into rationing energy, etc. because we won’t be able to afford to run an air conditioner, etc.
It’s back to the “the rich get what they want” and middle class America be damned.
Do you people have even a vague idea of what you’ve bought into with this Obama farce ?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122853/posts
Posted by: TGood | November 2, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Note to the invisible democrats: Come out, come out, wherever you are……..I’m getting a laugh out of this.
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
If John McCain had picked Joe the Plumber instead of Palin he would be winning this election. Joe the Plumber has the experience of running his own business.. he could fix the economy. And he could go to Alaska to see Russia… so he could get the foreign policy experience by doing that. If only McCain had picked Joe the Plumber.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
For the post wherein someone said Joe the Plumber only worked part time, was not licensed and couldn’t possibly afford to own a business: what the hell is wrong with you?
First of all, Joe is a regular guy who was at his home in his neighborhood the day the Chicago Snob inserted himself with cameras around. You should be more pissed off at the response Obama gave than the fact Joe asked him an honest question! Every citizen has the right to know where the candidates stand, and the Gestapo that has been unleashed in an effort to assassinate the character of Joe the Plumber is exactly what was conducted under Stalin and survives today under Hugo Chavez, Raul & Fidel Castro, Ahmindinejad, etc. Looks like Stanlinism has a fitting home under an Obama presidency.
And let’s get a few things straight, shall we? Joe works for a licensed plumbing contractor and therefore, as long as who he works for is licensed – that’s all that matters in his state! His working hours are none of your damn business and neither is any aspect of his life! You people supporting the harassment and character assasination of private citizens by the Obama campaign are some of the same people who were up in arms swearing that Bush was going to silence you and use the Dept. of Homeland Security to dig through your life. Hmmm, but as long as Obama is doing it that’s ok and all that matters because he’s That One.
Obama’s tactics are straight out of history, folks. It’s socialism and it’s nothing new and it has failed in every country where it has been tried. Socialism has been the cause of immense persecution, misery and death. Is that the change you want for America?
I would also ask you to more thoroughly examine the current Obama proposals of nationalized healthcare, nationalized childcare, nationalized education and school programs, nationalized care for the elderly, nationalized business, nationalized civil service programs, redistribution of your paycheck, etc. and compare it to the German National Socialists platform of the 1930′s.
A vote for Obama is history repeating itself.
Posted by: Artgal | November 2, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
belinda, how is a measly 3% increase on the amount over $250,000 ‘punishing Americans for being successful’? This was the same rate paid by the wealthy under Clinton and they did just fine. It works out to be $300 more for every $10,000 over $250,000. Someone isn’t being patriotic. We are fighting two wars you know. We have thousands of physically and mentally injured vets at home as a result that need a lot of treatment and help. Somehow whining about $300 seems petty.
Posted by: Lydia | November 2, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
I’m sure you can PERSUADE voters for voting for your guy by bashing the voters and calling them names. That always works. Uh, not.
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | November 2, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Who is the Real Mccain?
HTTP://WWW.VIETNAMVETERANSAGAINSTJOHNMCCAIN.COM
Posted by: No MCcain | November 2, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Liberals…
I may not be able to prevent you from winning in this election cycle, but realize this…
I hold power. You will never work in my company.
I have just completed a detailed study of the Obama/Biden Economic Plan that is on the Obama website. I truly do not understand how you can support these men. Their entire economic proposal is based on theft, emotion, and misplaced responsibility.
If Obama wins, I will be personally overseeing the re-draft of the hiring/employment procedures in my company.
Simply put, liberals will not be welcome to work in the ranks of my corporation. The Obama plan, along with the liberal mindset of “entitlement”, would become nothing short of a CANCER in my company.
Any employer that understands the Obama economic plan for business will be more protective of his enterprise, and less likely to welcome liberals into the fold of their operation. Yes, we will be discriminating on the basis of political mindset.
You are a danger to freedom, and your policies erode the foundations of our Constitutional Republic.
I will not allow anyone else to determine the level of my success in life. I will protect my investment (my business) at all costs, including discriminatory hiring, in hopes of preserving it until your reign is complete.
I pray that the American political landscape is not irreversibly damaged, should you Democrats have unchecked power for the next two years.
Should the liberals win, we Conservatives, as we have in so many political cycles before, will be there to salvage America’s pieces and restore her to her rightful place as the world’s only Superpower.
May God Bless America, and protect Her from the destruction of the Liberal.
Posted by: Brian | November 2, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Artgal, you can’t blame people for suspecting that Joe the plumber was a Republican plant for publicity.
Here is a guy who makes $40,000, who has a lien on his house for not paying taxes but his biggest concern is that folks making more than $250,000 will pay more taxes.
Please, we weren’t born yesterday. You pick any real average guy making $40K and his number one worry will likely be paying his bills, worrying about losing his job or how to pay for his kids college. Real average people are not worried about the wealthy especially with the tax breaks they have been getting from Bush. (Those tax cuts for the wealthy was supposed to make our economy bloom, instead it helped drag it down and increase our national debt.)
Joe the plumber is not an average plumber or American.
Posted by: Lydia | November 2, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Why doesn’t Obama spread his own wealth and give some money to his poor brother
baroke obama and his illegal aunt
Posted by: afred | November 2, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Joe the Plumber should definitely stick around for the next election. He seems to have a knack for the campaign trail. Maybe he could be Palin’s campaign manager when she runs for President. Joe could watch her back when Mitt Romney is around.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
donna-matteroffacts….you and others like you plus the biased media created them, angry Repubs that is. Most will never be accepting of Obama or his policies based upon mean spirited Obama supporters declaring all who do not embrace him as ignorant or selfish..Me? I voted for neither, it is time for a true Independent party to be taken seriously.
Posted by: curiousindep | November 2, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Why doesn’t rich Cindy help out her half sister which she doesn’t even acknowledge. She claims she is an only child. For shame.
Posted by: ll | November 2, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
with McCain you know you are getting a person who loves his country not for the first time but his whole life. Obama would get past a background check to work for the FBI.
Posted by: T C P | November 2, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Obama wants to spread your wealth not cindy
Posted by: afred | November 2, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
“MARK MY WORDS…” anyone stupid enough to vote for a Muslim, communist dictator deserves what they get.
Posted by: YOU'LL BE SORRY CHAD | November 2, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Joe the Plumber hired a publicist and you can see why. He reeks of charm and political savvy. Republicans don’t care that he is a deadbeat taxpayer… for them that is a badge of honor. Paying taxes is for suckers and Democrats.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
I can’t wait until the post-election riots. It will be interesting to see the liberals burn down their own cities. Of course, it matters not whether they win or lose, it’s just in their nature. Someone grab the popcorn.
Posted by: TexasRainmaker.com | November 2, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Fivepin, you’re a moron.
Posted by: Chuck | November 2, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Oh so that makes it ok.
Posted by: ll | November 2, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Libs only like it when you march in lock step with the zombie Obama masses. IF Obama wins, all free speech will be silenced, All right wing papers and radio shows will be gone. Our Fore fathers are turning in their graves!
Posted by: dg | November 2, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
It’s immensely funny how Democrats think of themselves as the “uniters” and Repbulicans are “dividers”. Do you even stop and look at the crap you say and post? HAve you even read the book “What’s the matter with Kansas”? Democrats are the ones that divide the country, the rest of us are just bitterly clinging to our guns and bibles. Wow, that’s so uniting! I get it now.
Posted by: jmckinne | November 2, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
If Joe the Plumber carved a backwards B in his face, and then called Hannity and blamed a Democrat, he might just get himself elected Governor of South Carolina.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Vote McCain for job creation the city’s will have alot of construction going on after the days and days of riots.
Posted by: T C P | November 2, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
So it is ok for Liberals to storm republican events but it is divisive for republicans to do so? It is ok for pelosi, right before the vote for the 700billion welfair bailout to attack republicans and lay the blame on everyone else except the people that had a direct hand in the mortgage fall out like Clinton and Barny Fwank? sorry but the issue in this election is a totaly lack of accountability and responsilbiity and republicans are getting the raw end of the deal because they have tried to fix what was broken dispite democrats poisening everything.
Posted by: chad | November 2, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
dg, does that mean no more Rush or Hannity, thank god.
Posted by: . | November 2, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
we are deviseive. what a joke the democrats are the most devisive and hateful people in america. the left hates america and what it stands for. obama is the same. if he does get in he’s going to start the hitler brown troops for the kids. they will be taught to spy and tell others about what they heard and was it against osama.hitler used that to round up the jews and the people who hid them. i am sure anne frank would be proud of them, oops she was gassed and cremated.i wonder what ob thinks about that? this whole year of the election cycle is right out of hitlers campaign in 38. scary!! most kids today have no clue why they are voting for this empty suit or really what he is. the media will not even do a really in depth vetting of this guy. since he had started running.
Posted by: carl6352 | November 2, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
haiku for McCain:
Joe the Plumber’s gone,
Democracy cries out loud,
Who will save us now?
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Get ready for electric bill to go up if Obama is elected as President.
Posted by: Dan | November 2, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Yeah we need more Keith olberman to tell us what to think
Posted by: afred | November 2, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Why are there no Obama relatives to speak on his behalf? Where are his friends and associates? How could this man suddenly appear on the radar and no one knew anything about him until his candidacy was announced? Then consider this; Obama threw Resko, Ayers and The Reverend Wright(his associates and friends)under the bus when it was politically expedient. What do you think he’ll do to this country. Just food for thought.
Posted by: Ryan | November 2, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Someone should educate Joe Biden to the problems that face this country and the source of those problems.
1) Mortgage meltdown – initiated by policies of Bill Clinton to open up home ownership to low income families as highlighted in a 1999 NY Times article. Supported largely by the likes of Barney Frank (and his boyfriend who was an exec with Fannie Mae) who was dismissive of any looming credit meltdown back in 2004.
2) Oil crisis – How many years has the far left prevented US oil exploration and the development of new nuke plants and oil refineries? (the answer is about 25 years) And I’m sure we’ll all quickly forget this still present problem now that prices have dropped in half.
Only someone who gets all of their information from the mainstream media could possibly believe that Bush caused the current situation. And I voted AGAINST Bush in 2000 and 2004 but would jump off a bridge before voting to give more power to the socialists and environmental nutjobs running the democratic party.
Posted by: FLIndependent | November 2, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Someone should educate Joe Biden to the problems that face this country and the source of those problems.
1) Mortgage meltdown – initiated by policies of Bill Clinton to open up home ownership to low income families as highlighted in a 1999 NY Times article. Supported largely by the likes of Barney Frank (and his boyfriend who was an exec with Fannie Mae) who was dismissive of any looming credit meltdown back in 2004.
2) Oil crisis – How many years has the far left prevented US oil exploration and the development of new nuke plants and oil refineries? (the answer is about 25 years) And I’m sure we’ll all quickly forget this still present problem now that prices have dropped in half.
Only someone who gets all of their information from the mainstream media could possibly believe that Bush caused the current situation. And I voted AGAINST Bush in 2000 and 2004 but would jump off a bridge before voting to give more power to the socialists and environmental nutjobs running the democratic party.
Posted by: FLIndependent | November 2, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
I am reading some of these blogs from Democrats and can’t believe what I see. My god you need to wake up!! I am a registered Republican who has voted Democrat on previous occassions, but would rather jump off a cliff before voting for Obama. It amazes me how he just brushes things off and never admits to knowing anything about things that are happening right under his nose. The list is far to long to list at this point and besides we all know what they are. His campaign song should be “It Wasn’t Me”
PS I love the quote that McCain used today about Joe the Biden, “The gift that keeps on giving”
McCain/Palin ’08
Posted by: LittleRed | November 2, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
I thought that was a quote about Cheney.
Posted by: . | November 2, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
If McCain had picked Joe the Plumber to be his VP they would have definitely carried Ohio. Why in the world would McCain pick Palin when Joe the P was still available? McCain is erratic and out of touch. Like he wants to lose on purpose.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
The problem with most democratic s they believe their on lies. They don’t know truth from fiction. Its sad they can only follow and not lead. Take the hype away Obama is nothing. Just a man that has accomplished anything. Most corporation wouldn’t hire him. He could he pass our government security clearance if he worked for our government. If he wins you still won’t be better off. You’ll provable be worse. He’s getting ready to bankrupt us all for the so called common good. He’s so full of it and if you can’t see it then your ignorant as well. The problem with most people they never learn. All they have to do is look at history to see what works and what don’t. Its all been done before. Wise up America do whats right for our country.
Posted by: buck | November 2, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Obama can call me bitter. I’m not, but I am a God-loving, gun-owning person who has earned what I have, who thinks abortion is murder and who wants a President who is capable of the office.
Posted by: Bill | November 2, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Wow, Dems misuse government equipment to illegally look up private information on Joe the Plumber and the Dems say that Joe the Plumber is bad???
How come the Dems didn’t ever have a problem with Bill “the rapist” Clinton and all of his attacks on women? Sounds like a Democrat Double Standard.
Posted by: Scott | November 2, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
McCain is angry
Soothing words from Palin help
No more honor left
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
We take out saddam hussein and we elect
barack hussein… What the hell are we doing?
Posted by: afred | November 2, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
What dems said Joe the plumber was bad.
Posted by: Just Wondering | November 2, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Quick aside: Jimbo – Thoroughly enjoyed your post.
Media has slanted so far in this particular election, I don’t see how they are ever coming back. With no shame, they are printing polls that are wildly different from one another. For one poll to say Obama has a 13-16 pt lead and another to say 2… come on people.
I also enjoy the Democrats on this comment line saying how divisive a group of 30 Republicans protesting with non-obscene signs are. I attended the RNC in 2004, and Dems, I have to tell you, I lost a ton of respect for you. You have the right to protest, but those at the RNC had to be the most vulgar, dirty groups of people I have ever seen. You did yourselves no favors. But Republicans, shouting something so benign as “Say it ain’t so, Joe” are divisive. Yeah, that makes sense somehow in your twisted view…
Posted by: Jeff | November 2, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
What’s in a name.
Posted by: Just Wondering | November 2, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
You have got to be kidding!! The Republicans are sooo divisive!!? Just look down a few posts and read how a liberal clown savages that poor shmuck, “Joe the Plumber”. His crime? He dared to ask Obama a real question. Of course, if someone mentions that Obama was a cocaine user, has terrorist and anti-semitic friends, or has the most liberal voting record of any congressmen on the planet… that is being “divisive”. Digging up dirt on a regular citizen…that is just ducky and will bring us all together! What crap!
Posted by: Hugh Jasse | November 2, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
McCain is angry like a lot of us……..I don’t blame him one bit. Whats even funnier is your going to be angry when things don’t go your way if Obama is elected. He is nothing but a smooth talker all mouth no action!!!!!
Posted by: LittleRed | November 2, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Seven homes await
In seven towns and five states
Don’t be bitter now
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
So let me get this straight it is bad to listen in on possible terrorist phone calls but ok to look into a citizens files about his life to use in a political way. It’s ok to shut down Hannity or Limbaugh because you don’t like them but you are for free speech as long as it’s liberal speech. The liberals soon to be socialists make me laugh.
Posted by: T C P | November 2, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Landslide loser now
Used to be liked, a hero
Your new name is mud
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
A friend of mine went to a Biden rally in Brevard County, FL to “get more informed” as he put it. He kept moving away from loud obnoxious attendees but found they were all around him. He said the place was full of weirdos. This was in his own words as an undecided trying to learn more about the candidates. In the end he wished he hadn’t gone.
Posted by: FLIndependent | November 2, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
I’d rather he have seven homes then seven terrorist!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: LittleRed | November 2, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
I learned a long time ago its OK to tell a left wing nut to take a long walk off a short bridge and feel good about it. I also learn you don’t negotiate with a left wing liberal, tell them to take the bridge route. We have lost to much to the left wing liberals. VOTE NO NO NO REID PELOSKI obama
Posted by: jake | November 2, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Deena, it’s easy to say you could give more taxes if you made 250,000 a yr. But if you had to do what it takes to make that much you would sing another song. When you see your hard earned money just handed to mostly lazy people that have babies and won’t say who the dad is and live in homes you help pay for and have the boyfriend living in and out so they don’t loose the free money and won’t get married for the same reasons, and the people that only work 40 hr. a week and by beer, big screen t.v.s and so on and need your money for Health Care. And on and on. Look at all that’s going on and i know you won’t just want to give your hard earned money to lazy people you don’t know and don’t care anything about you. And to a government that gives to anyone lazy just for a vote… Read a book called The Fair Tax and you’ll see a different side of taxes. Did you know that the tax increase to corp. and small business get added into the cost of all products we buy? You and me pay that tax… Your choice of Pres. and
V.P. they know this and they also know most of us don’t. A friendly note.
Posted by: Don | November 2, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
“Independant American Woman” and what public record would you find that in, the one you grabbed out of your fat a**?
Posted by: Scrapiron | November 2, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Palin scares young kids
With her words of hate and fear
Republican stench
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
It would be funny if Obama wins the election, then finds out he is not legally eligible and has to forfeit. Wishful thinking I know, but hey- ‘I have a dream!’
Posted by: John55 | November 2, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Angry little man
Small ideas, no fun or hope
Cry like a baby
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Just wondering – I couldn’t agree more!! I voted Democratic 100% UNTIL this year when it became obvious to me that my party had sold out the working man & woman, was mysogynistic about a female Presidential candidate & watched the Donna Brazile machine force a totally inexperienced American Idol candidate upon us. Watching and hearing the mainstream media fawn and drool over Obama was/is nauseating – if he becomes President how will we ever know anything accurate about his job performance? – guess I’d have to read the British or other press to find out as certainly the US media isn’t going to say a bad word about the Obamessiah.
Furthermore the treatment of Sarah Palin by the media and most Democrats is absolutely appalling. Bill Maher’s Fri. night show made me sick to my stomach and I USED to be a fan of his comedy.
Sorry but Democrats have turned into some really disgusting, loud mouthed, shrill people. I’m changing to Independent.
Posted by: Apple Pie | November 2, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Does it surprise anyone that virtually all of lobama’s relatives are, illegal aliens, violators of court orders, on welfare as if they deserve to be living here for free, as if the are entitled to a single dime of taxpayer dollars. They are the lowest of the low. Lazy good for nothin shufflefooted give me a handout welfare cheats. They don’t work but sit on their tails and try to figure out how to get something for nothing. The country is shackled with 20 million of these worthless law breaking court order defying skumbaglawbreakers.
Posted by: Lordrobot | November 2, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Hey Scrapiron now this is funny
“the one you grabbed out of your fat a**?”
Good one
Posted by: Chris | November 2, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Bankrupt, petty man
No compass for the bus ride
Ditch the bus, run home
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
What planet are you responders on? Democrats hang Palin in effigy, bash Republicans incessantly, stating innuendo as fact and calling anyone for McCain a racist. For the recored almost no one minds paying a bit more taxes to help people; but the governement is TOTALLY inept and illequipt to efficiently handle money. Just go to the post office if you want to see how smoothly they run. Here is the main question: WOULD YOU GIVE MONEY TO A CHARITY THAT WASTED 99.999% ON OVERHEAD,SALARIES AND EXECUTIVE PERKS? THE GOVERNMENT WILL WASTE EVEN MORE AND BE EVEN LESS EFFICIENT. It is not selfishness that concerns people regarding taxes, it is not trusting the cumbersome, inflated bureaucracy of the American government. Quick reminder; It was the reason we fought the Revolutionary War. Just wait and see how many promises Obama keeps. Check back with me. I think you’ll want that right to protest. Grow up.
Posted by: reason | November 2, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
If That One is elected I plan to cheat on my taxes any way I can. Promise.
Posted by: Mike Hunt | November 2, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
I guess you dimwits stand behind Hussein’s plan to bankrupt all coal fired power plants and the coal industry, and to cause everyone’s power bills to skyrocket. His own words. Add Slow Joe’s rant that there will be no coal fired power plants in the U.S. and you have a disaster in the making. I believe by morning about 20 states will change colors. I dream of hearing you scream when you flip a light switch and nothing happens since 49% of America’s power is produced by coal fired plants. Now that the ‘no tax increase’ pledge has been reduced to $70K per year you can still believe him if you want. I think Hussein O the biggest liar and con man to come down the pike in my lifetime, and more dangerous than all the terrorists in the world. Then since he is one of ‘them’ he’s doubly dangerous.
Posted by: Scrapiron | November 2, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Steve from Danville has a bellie full-o-kool-aid
Posted by: afred | November 2, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Write another check
Send to DNC today
Crush McCain and Bush
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
This website is collecting the DNS address of all commenters. When Obama has been crowned, the list will be handed over to Obama’s Civilian Security Force. Then those who criticized him will be rounded up and taken to camps for reeducation. These Obamaniacs are giving up your constitutional rights for you.
Posted by: Dave A. | November 2, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Funny, I don’t see many praising the fact that we can still protest. The right to protest and in defense of our constitution was the only reason I feel my two years in the military, one of them in Viet Nam was well spent. I even give Jane Fonda a pass for exercising the right I defended. I don’t agree with what she espoused but unlike McCain, she was under no oath or military requirement to not aid the enemy and McCain did aid the enemy. For those who don’t know that he did, see his interview with John King on CNN where he says, “I only disapointed myself, not my country”. Now this did infuroate me, as many other POW’s did not cave in to the same or worse mistreatment. Exercise your rights fellow Americans, every body is guaranteed those rights so long as our fine military defends the constitution. Once again, it does not mean I have to agree with you or your ideals.
Posted by: BG14TRUTH | November 2, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Deadbeat plumber Joe
Your head shines like a light bulb
Turn off the switch now
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
I honestly can not understand why ANYONE would vote for Obama. It is rediculous where we have gone as a people.
Posted by: chris | November 2, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
puh-leeeeze, stevie-boy!
I find your rambling to be unintelligent… akin to that of a plebe with limited mental faculties.
Your vapid haiku demonstrates just how intellectually void you are.
Posted by: Steve from DUMBville | November 2, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Don’t scare me nut job
Karl Rove invented you
You will be toast soon
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Joe Biden is the dumbest guy in the senate. He would be a disaster!
Remember this in the voting booth
**** VOTE McCAIN / PALIN ****2008
Posted by: tibor | November 2, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Dear Nik:
Apparently your IQ is quite low to make such an inane comment. You are just the kind of “useful idiot” that the hard left needs. (Stalin’s words, not mine.) Good luck testing your IQ theory at your trailer park.
Posted by: Mensa Member | November 2, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
You are being played
Like Rove’s violin swan song
Good riddance, sucker
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Low hanging fruit, ripe
Manna for Fox News, so sweet
Rotten to the core
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
What is with the poetry? Are you Dr. Suess?
Posted by: Chris | November 2, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Steve from Danville… this is specifically for you:
Liberals…
I may not be able to prevent you from winning in this election cycle, but realize this…
I hold power. You will never work in my company.
I have just completed a detailed study of the Obama/Biden Economic Plan that is on the Obama website. I truly do not understand how you can support these men. Their entire economic proposal is based on theft, emotion, and misplaced responsibility.
If Obama wins, I will be personally overseeing the re-draft of the hiring/employment procedures in my company.
Simply put, liberals will not be welcome to work in the ranks of my corporation. The Obama plan, along with the liberal mindset of “entitlement”, would become nothing short of a CANCER in my company.
Any employer that understands the Obama economic plan for business will be more protective of his enterprise, and less likely to welcome liberals into the fold of their operation. Yes, we will be discriminating on the basis of political mindset.
You are a danger to freedom, and your policies erode the foundations of our Constitutional Republic.
I will not allow anyone else to determine the level of my success in life. I will protect my investment (my business) at all costs, including discriminatory hiring, in hopes of preserving it until your reign is complete.
I pray that the American political landscape is not irreversibly damaged, should you Democrats have unchecked power for the next two years.
Should the liberals win, we Conservatives, as we have in so many political cycles before, will be there to salvage America’s pieces and restore her to her rightful place as the world’s only Superpower.
May God Bless America, and protect Her from the destruction of the Liberal.
Posted by: Brian | November 2, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
I’m back. Couldn’t resist seeing what fanciful trash the right wing guys on here wrote.
Steve from Danville nice poem. Have you heard John Cleese’s poem on Hannity? Classic.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
No SOcialist FOR ME !!! IQ OVER 12% THANK YOU !!! JIM THE THINKER
Posted by: jim | November 2, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Green eggs and ham
Sam I am
Obama cool aid I drink
I no longer can think
I have to go now
eggcorn bus is leaving
Posted by: Chris | November 2, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
I thought only Dems acted like uncivilized , intoxicated, prozac poppers.
Posted by: Ron | November 2, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
The Obama/Biden ticket’s entire campaign theme is based on “the last eight years.” Maybe we should really look at “the last two years,” or the time period when both the House and the Senate were run by Democrats.
In December 2006, after six years of Bush and the last month before the Democrats took over both houses of the national legislature, a snapshot of our economy looked like this.
Unemployment stood at 4.4%.
Real GDP growth over the previous four years (under a Republican President, House and Senate) averaged 3% per year.
A gallon of regular gasoline cost $2.30.
The S&P 500 stock index stood at 1418, or 84% above its post-911 low and more than 7% higher than when Bush took office.
Every year of Bush’s Presidency, real (inflation-adjusted) disposable income per person went up. By the end of 2006, the average person was making 9% more in real terms than before Bush became President .
Posted by: mita valjan | November 2, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Hey BG14TRUTH,
Your comment is an epic steaming pile.
Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 2, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Last haiku for Dead Man Walking McCain:
Honor once revered
Toilet stew for history
Your legacy weeps
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
There is an old saying, “Be careful of what you wish for, it may come to pass.”
All you Obama supporters should take three college classes – economics, basic math and American History.
If he is elected and his programs enacted, unemployment will top 14% within 12 months. The DOW Jones will be in the 5000 – 6000 range, inflation at 8-10% and the country will be more divided at anytime since the Civil War. Remember these words when it comes to pass. This is not doom and gloom it is a reality. Why is it reality? It will be history repeating itself.
Those that do not learn from the past are destined to repeat it.
For all our sakes, I hope I am wrong.
Posted by: justavet | November 2, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
If you recall, that 2006 election was considered a referendum on Iraq. The people wanted change, so they threw out the Republicans and replaced them with Democrats. Welcome Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
Here is how they handled Iraq once in office: Harry Reid told us that the Iraq war was “lost” and the surge was not “accomplishing anything.” Senator Obama introduced legislation that would have prevented the surge and would have taken all US troops out of Iraq by March 2008 (that would be seven months ago, as you read this) .
Were they right?
Barack Obama now admits that “the surge succeeded.” So much for that change. And as the surge succeeded, Congress’s approval ratings plummeted. The latest CBS/New York Times poll has it at 12%, well less than half of the already low level it stood at when the Republican Congress was being tossed out in 2006.
Posted by: mita valjan | November 2, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
BY THE WAY FOR THOSE WONDERING,OVER 12 PER CENT OF THE MENSA AVERAGE !! IF YOU DEMS KNOW WHAT MENSA IS ?
Posted by: jim | November 2, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Nik and Matteroffacts:
I guess your idea of intellecutally elite is Steve from Danville and his nonsencical spewing. I’m sure between the three of you, you could figure out how to work a gumball machine…if Obama gave you the quarter that is.
Posted by: Mensa Member | November 2, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
The Democratic Congress did a great job, if what you’re looking for in a Congress is continual investigation of Republicans. Did the White House out CIA agent Valerie Plame? No, it was the anti-White House Richard Armitage at State, but Congress investigated anyway. Did Alberto Gonzalez, with White House urging, fire nine prosecutors for political reasons? Probably not, and it wouldn’t be a crime anyway, but Congress investigated, and is still investigating. Did the CIA, under orders from the White House, “torture” prisoners? No evidence of that yet, but Congress is on the case.
Posted by: azyu | November 2, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
I have to say, there are so many more republicans in here than dumbocrats, I’m starting to feel optimistic about Tuesday!
McCain/Palin!
Posted by: 4 more years! | November 2, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
I have four quotes and they sum up what will happen if Obama is elected. “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.” – Thomas Jefferson. “A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.” – George Bernard Shaw. “I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.” – Winston Churchill. “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of MISERY.” – Winston Churchill. Taxing the wealthy sounds to Obama supporters as justice well deserved. But all will feel the “trickle down” effect and it won’t be money. It will mean that Brad the bar owner will have to cut someone from his staff and raise his prices. While you might have gotten a tax break, it won’t do you a lot of good without a job. But then again, you’ll get money and won’t even have to work for it. This results in no motivation, no innovation, no progress…I say NO OBAMA.
Posted by: cindy | November 2, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Will the donut headed libs in this blog quit accusing the Republicans of dividing this country. Your contempt of people of religious beliefs is appalling! You are like spoiled children playing in the sandbox. Leadership comes from having to make the tough call when needed, not by voting present. It is obvious the reason he did this was by not voting on anything then voters couldn’t hold him ACCOUNTABLE! His agenda is to be King Obama, like King George will kill the economy with his policies. This is not us fear mongering, it’s been predicted by major economist!
Posted by: dave | November 2, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
I stumbled on this thread and read it until I came across a very very sad posting by someone called “teacher.” She is retiring this year and is glad that Bush did not “privitize” her Social Security. She must not read very much, or she would know that all those funds for Social Security and Medicare have been totally spent already by the Dem Congress on lots of pork and also on putting illegal aliens in public housing, you know, like Obama’s auntie and relatives from Kenya. If Bush had “privitized” as proposed, only five percent of the funds would have been taken out, put in her own name, and she could have put the funds in Certificates of Deposit, Treasury Bonds, or Municipal Bonds, or other investments that NEVER go down but always gain income. People think that investments mean “stocks” but that is only one type of investment. If the money had been taken out and put in her own name, when she dies, as everyone will eventually, her family could have gotten some of her money. But now, the money is not there at all. Social Sec. is totally bankrupt. Wait until that you-know-what hits the fan! About 2011 or so the next President will have to deal with it for sure. As for teacher, at least we know why education in our country is so bad.
Posted by: Margo in Virginia | November 2, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
I stumbled on this thread and read it until I came across a very very sad posting by someone called “teacher.” She is retiring this year and is glad that Bush did not “privitize” her Social Security. She must not read very much, or she would know that all those funds for Social Security and Medicare have been totally spent already by the Dem Congress on lots of pork and also on putting illegal aliens in public housing, you know, like Obama’s auntie and relatives from Kenya. If Bush had “privitized” as proposed, only five percent of the funds would have been taken out, put in her own name, and she could have put the funds in Certificates of Deposit, Treasury Bonds, or Municipal Bonds, or other investments that NEVER go down but always gain income. People think that investments mean “stocks” but that is only one type of investment. If the money had been taken out and put in her own name, when she dies, as everyone will eventually, her family could have gotten some of her money. But now, the money is not there at all. Social Sec. is totally bankrupt. Wait until that you-know-what hits the fan! About 2011 or so the next President will have to deal with it for sure. As for teacher, at least we know why education in our country is so bad.
Posted by: Margo in Virginia | November 2, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
3 Men who brought down Wall Street:
1. Franklin Raines: was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae.
Raines left with a ‘golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits.
2. Tim Howard: Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae.
Howard’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!
3. Jim Johnson: A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO.
Johnson’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
1. FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor.
2. TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama.
3. JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama’s Vice Presidential Search Committee.
Instills a lot of confidence in Obama’s economic plans, doesn’t it?
Posted by: Ken L | November 2, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Nik and Matteroffacts:
I guess your idea of intellecutally elite is Steve from Danville and his nonsencical spewing. I’m sure between the three of you, you could figure out how to work a gumball machine…if Obama gave you the quarter that is.
It’s people like you who irritate me and cause me to get mean. And normally I’m a pretty friendly person, but this time around I’ll just ignore you and pretend you’re not even there.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
What bothers me more than Obama wanting to spread the wealth is that people think that is ok. To me that is like ripping people off because you think you deserve what they have. It’s no better than walking into a gas station and robbing it… oh well I guess if Obama says it’s ok it must be.
Posted by: Tiffany | November 2, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
I can see that right-wing talk radio has done its job of spreading fear and hate propaganda like a cancer over the USA.
Rush Limbaugh and all of his imitators and wannabes are what is wrong with America. They are responsible for the polarization.
You people from the right sound like a lynch mob!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 2, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
OBAMA AND DEMS WANT TO LYNCH YOUR WALLET!!!
Posted by: jim | November 2, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Mensa – you speak with forked tongue. To fix forked tongue take bear trap to Larry Craig’s cabin in Idaho. Then bend over, pull down pants, and ask Larry Craig to unleash the bear.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
I would never vote for this fcuking ni66er or anyone who would support him.
Posted by: Dan_the_Man | November 2, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
###wipe: – in four years you will be a volunteer for Obama-Biden 2012.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
I would never vote for this fcuking [this guy obviously's racist] or anyone who would support him.
Posted by: Dan_the_Man | Nov 2, 2008 11:48:40 PM
Hey, why don’t you read this ABC news article just out.
Obama’s Nat’l Poll Lead Hits High
Turns out you just might not have to, the rest of the nation’s doing it for you.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 2, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Bigots for McCain – thanks for finally showing the electorate how his widespread appeal has reached into the skinhead prison population. No go carve a backwards B into your face and call Hannity.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
so Obama is against gay marriage but against the people in California voting to ban it Sounds Like one with a strong backbone to me.
Posted by: T C P | November 2, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Biden…you are a true wind bag and proven yourself to be little more than an Obama lackey! Why no press conferences for over a month? And I remember you stated that Obama wasn’t ready to lead our great country and lacked the experience to be our next President! You were SO right! You and your new homeboy are in for a BIG surprise come Tuesday…and you two won’t be happy! The MAC is back!
Posted by: TRS | November 2, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
DEENA – YOU are the problem !!
$ 250,000 in “PROFIT” ????????
It ain’t PROFIT, you dipthong ….
It’s earnings in excess of $ 250,000 !!!
YOU UN-INFORMED little socialists who want “change” of which you have NO CLUE, will be the RUIN of all of us….
YOU and your ilk DON’T KNOW SQUAT. All you know is that you wanna’ vote for Obama so you can SOOTHE your WHITE GUILT. Under Obama, small businesses WILL CLOSE OR WILL LAY-OFF PEOPLE…
You act like this JERK is MAGIC….
He’s just an inexperienced PUNK who proposes to SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS WITH OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY…
Posted by: Karl_Obama_Marx | November 2, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
See why both Obama and McCain are both evil: http://www.infowars.com
Posted by: ObamaMcainTheSame | November 2, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
mensa – Ted Stevens just called. He’s having a party at his house to honor Mark Foley. You are the door prize.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 2, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Hey, Donna is defending the principles of America by not changing things as they are now wrong? Calling Rush and right wingers is immature and disrespectful. Instead of name calling please provide us with debate and some FACTS to back up your point of view. Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me. I vote for NO CHANGE! Vote McCain/Palin
Posted by: dave | November 2, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Matterofacts:
Did you forget that you said…
I’m back. Couldn’t resist seeing what fanciful trash the right wing guys on here wrote.
I would consider it an honor for you to stop checking back. Don’t throw stones and then complain when they come back your way.
Posted by: Mensa Member | November 2, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
It is a sorry sight to see what sort of people are calling themselves patriotic Americans here. You don’t sound like Americans. You sound like a bunch of vicious Gestapo hooligans that go around in a mob and terrorize people who don’t happen to agree with your ideology! Can you not hear the hatred here? You call yourselves Christians, but you sound more like the mob that crucified Christ!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 2, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
let’s see, this is JOE “my wife died after an accident with a drunk driver’
oh wait, joe, the courts ruled there was no alchol involved and the family of the driver is suing you to stop representing that, or joe can I borrow your speech, or Joe “obama”s not ready”
or Joe “stand up for check” or Joe “36 years in the senate and doesn’t know the VP role in govt or the senate.” or JJoe “who has voted on the wrong side of every military action we have been involved in since he’s been in the senate.” or Joe “against coal”
he isn’t even worth being used in the same sentence with Joe the plumber. Just remember lib’s when you take over all 3 branches of govt. you got no one to blame but yourselves, bipartisan isn’t needed. You can pass all the gas and bad bills and legislation you want and have no one to blame but the idiots looking in your mirror. As for us that believe in capital, we are moving our money as fast as we can, just like companies are going to be moving jobs and shutting down facilities.
Posted by: technicalfoul | November 2, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Bout time we got our own protesters. Senator Government, take notice, we know you are trying to buy the election but we know we will not buy you.
Posted by: G. Whizz | November 2, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Right, Donna. Shut down the dissenting opinion. How fascist of you.
Hitler brought change too. Hell, he ran on a socialist ticket. Hitler, Chavez, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Mussolini etc… All socialists… All were fascists and all of them shut down any dissenting opinion and arrested their political enemies. Obama bin Biden is the ticket of the anti-American left.
And we all know how vile and vicious failed Liberal talk radio was, and that is why it has failed. Nobody wants to hear hate radio except fascist liberals. We also know what you morons believe, and you believe the same crap that the terrorists like Bill Ayers and the douche bag terrorists that descended on St. Paul this summer believe. I believe that makes you a traitor.
Posted by: MyfootonBillAyersneck | November 2, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
If anyone wants to know what the next few years will be like if Obama is elected, simply read up on the Carter years. Carter fathered double digit inflation and interest rates, skyrocketing oil prices and unemployment, and just about any other worst case economic scenario you could conjure up.
Posted by: FLIndependent | November 2, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Steve from Danville:
I’ve changes my mind about you. I now find you amusing. Perhaps you will be the Jester in Obama’s court. Btw, are you any relation to Dan_the_Man?
Posted by: Mensa Member | November 3, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Steve from Danville,
I’m amazed that your able to type with a strait jacket on. Tell me how do you do it?
Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 3, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
This is to Tiffiny
No most conservatives listen to and read all points of view. Not just those that want you to “feel” good.
I listen respectfully to democrats, but when I attempt to put forth my view I am shouted down or called a name. I see this continually on the TV when there are representatives of both parties appearing. The republican or moderator get shouted down, the democrat representative also will make faces, or repeat talking points that have nothing to do with the question. Your candidate has even said to his supporters, “get in their faces.”
That, madame is not the America I grew up in, it is uncivilized and frankly boorish.
Posted by: justavet | November 3, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
This is to Tiffiny
No most conservatives listen to and read all points of view. Not just those that want you to “feel” good.
I listen respectfully to democrats, but when I attempt to put forth my view I am shouted down or called a name. I see this continually on the TV when there are representatives of both parties appearing. The republican or moderator get shouted down, the democrat representative also will make faces, or repeat talking points that have nothing to do with the question. Your candidate has even said to his supporters, “get in their faces.”
That, madame is not the America I grew up in, it is uncivilized and frankly boorish.
Posted by: justavet | November 3, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
I did not know how mean and ugly people are, on the huffington post there is nothing but hate for republicans.
God forbid Sen.Obama/Biden should loose.
Please go out and vote
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
I may give the mullutto 1/2 a vote as his white side deserves it.
But I would whip the other half.
It is what it is….
Posted by: Dan_the Man | November 3, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
I have never seen anything like this Obama spending money like it’s water, why not spread it around to the rest of us? I’m voting for a president who has balls and loves America. John McCain has my vote.
Posted by: Sandra Gonzo | November 3, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Mensa Member- I’m not complaining. I’m actually entertained. The stuff being spewed out here is just pure priceless…
Really, it is. But I am my brother’s/sister’s keeper so I must inform all of you misinformed elitist republicans who happen to think you’re better than everyone else, that, no, in fact you’re not.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
RE: T C P 11:15:16 PM
Regarding the gay marriage issue, what exactly would you expect from a “closet bi-sexual” that is well known in the homosexual community in Chicago! Check it out folks…
Posted by: TRS | November 3, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
I tried debating you in an early post in this debacle, but there were no takers, and when I returned it had turned into a right-wing hate-fest here. You just shout anyone down who doesn’t agree with you anyway. Mob rule.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | November 3, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
dan the bigot man – your mom called to say that she’s real proud of that new Nazi tatoo you picked up in prison.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 3, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
“We’ll settle for people like Warren Buffett and Colin Powell.”
…and Fidel Castro
…and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
…and Hugo Chavez
…and Osama bin Laden
…and…
Posted by: Ron | November 3, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Republicans tend to be (pseudo) moral elitists and Democrats tend to be (pseudo)intellectual elitists.
Posted by: FLIndependent | November 3, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Hey Joe, why do the islamics want to get Obama elected? http://www.islamicstateofamerica.com
Posted by: Robert Bankston | November 3, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
You leftist zombies are going to be sorry if you elect Obama. The damage this man will do to the constitution and economy will take generations to repair.
Any country that elects a socialist deserves exactly what it gets…more government, more problems, and less solutions.
Posted by: Dave | November 3, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Huge Kudos to you ‘MyfootonBillyAyersneck’! Thank GOD there are some of us who clearly understand the direction of CHANGE that B.O. and beady, rat-eyed Biden want to take us WILL NOT be to make this a better place to live. I am not for a socialist government. Those of you who want to model our nation after Europe as B.O. would like to…well, move your a**es over there! Don’t take this great nation down in flames with your pathetic beliefs. And to those of you who put all your HOPE in CHANGE by B.O., you’re not saying a whole lot about yourselves. I don’t put my hopes on ONE individual to change my world, it’s up to me to make my world better and I can do that with freedom, not socialism. It is up to the leader of our country to protect us and B.O. is not the person that has the spine to do so!!!!!
Posted by: KudosMyfootonBillyAyersneck! | November 3, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
MY WIFE WORKS FOR THE GOVERNMENT,OBAMA COULD NOT PASS THE BACKGROUND CHECK TO GET HER JOB!!!
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Sandra Gonzo- As far as I’m concerned Obama can spend all the money he likes. His supporters gave him that money, which I feel he is using wisely. He’s running a smooth and campaign, shows what to expect for when he becomes president. I’m proud to support him.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
dan the bigot – your message is getting garbled. Relax. Try mixing a Hitler cocktail. One part schnapps, four parts rat poison. Shaken not stirred.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 3, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Hey Joe, your message of bi-partisanship isn’t making it to the Democrat party masses. Just read the comments on this page and read all the hate spewing from Obama supporters.
My only question is what will these same folks be saying in a couple years when we find out what Obama’s change is REALLY about. Maybe we’ll find out that Obama isn’t as moderate as he’d like us all to think he is.
BTW Joe, has Obama lowered his definition of middle-class yet again? I heard last that you and he had dropped it down from $250K to $120K. Pretty soon, I’m sure it’ll be at $90K.
Posted by: lfi | November 3, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Well matteroffacts I can assure you I am better then your Chicago porch ape,
How ya like me now?…….
Posted by: Dan_the_man | November 3, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
It is pretty funny how much the Democrats love Europe. Meanwhile half of the governments over there are filing for bancruptcy and getting beat up every day by radical domestic Islamic groups.
Posted by: FLIndependent | November 3, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Say no to NEGRANOMICS! Why would we want obselete farm equipment for a leader?
Posted by: TheTRUTH | November 3, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Dan_the_man let’s just say I’ll be praying for you.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
OBAMA CIVILIAN PATROLS SOUND LIKE HITLER BROWN SHIRTS ,DO YOU GUYS AND GALS KNOW WHAT THAT LED TO ???
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Donna: It’s ugly – but it’s all they have left. Fear mongering and Hate. Truth is, they think that they are ‘fooling’ everyone by Fear Tactics, they think it will frighten good people into not doing the right thing. Of course, as we see from these posts – they get to a point where they have actually fooled themselves. We are the ones seeing clearly and making plans to move forward in a productive and positive way – and they are as you see them – nasty, people – frightened of every shadow they see and terrified to look at the truth – about themselves.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
I will follow the example of the me generation aka hippies aka liberals aka progressives if stinky BO wins the election and that is show the position of POTUS no respect.
Posted by: Hippie free USA | November 3, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
The McCain supporters in this forum have more ideas about the economy than John McCain. The McCain campaign message went 100% negative against Obama and that’s why McCain is getting his ### kicked. With no honor there is no way to win. For proof, watch Elizabeth Dole lose in North Carolina. Adios, McCain. We used to like you. Now you are just another Bush sandwich. Go eat yourself.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 3, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
come on Dan the Man don’t act like a liberal Dem.
Posted by: T C P | November 3, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
These Republican protesters are very similar to Hitler’s Brown Shirts. They are there to drown out the opposition because their own message is false. They are also prone to complete lies and violence to get their way. They are not conservatives .. they are Regressives. McCain has whipped these far right wing Regressives into a frenzy in hopes of winning this by assassinating Obama’s character with lies and distortions. And to the guy who says his wife works for the government “KudosMyfootwhatever” YOU ARE A CLUELESS HACK. GET A GRIP. STOP BEING AN IDIOT. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.
Posted by: surge this | November 3, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
All you loser Democrats keep you head in the sand. If elected, Obama will implement his Marxist agenda by trying to solve all of your problems via government. How pathetic you obama supporters are that you need him and Biden to wipe your ass because government is the solution for all of our woes. Get a grip and take personal resposibility for your life and stop looking to the racist, anti-american radical who is supported by Ayers, Resko, Wright, Chavez, Odinga, “pick an anti-american radical”. For someone who graduated from Harvard, he is pretty stupid for all of the things he distances himself from. I am my brother’s keeper…hmmmm, your brother lives on a $1 a month outside of Nairobi….your aunt lives in the projects in Boston…but you don’t know about this..Barack, you are a liar. how are you going to implement you Marxism and take care of all of the people who can’t wipe their asses, if you don’t know what is going on in your own family? You Obama supporters are stupid. It took a Carter to get a Reagan, unfortunately, I don’t think we will ever recover from Obama.
Posted by: Pilotage | November 3, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
steve eat yourself,you could only taste good to you!!!
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
The McCain campaign is so weak they had to steal the Obama campaign message of change. Heck they even stole the graphic look from Obama. McCain is a hack … Palin is a looser. There Regressive policies have led us to where we are not. THey are not about change … they are about lying to us until they have power and then screwing us . Just like George Bush … he lied to get elected and even stole the vote twice . They are criminals and liars and their followers are mentally deranged.
Posted by: surge this | November 3, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
To steve from dan
he had to go negative the media was doing obamas negative campaigning for him to make him look clean
Posted by: T C P | November 3, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Brian, hold on to that thought but don’t get your hopes up.
Obama and the Democrats are going to pass the “Voter Card” bill.
The voter card bill will allow the employees in a company to be presented with an “opportunity” to vote for union representation.
The employee, however, will not be able to simply take the opportunity to vote yes or no in the privacy of his or her convenience. They will be asked to sign in the presence of the union organizer.
Can you say Goon squad?
Can your employee say, “Please don’t slash my tires?”
Well yes, perhaps, but do you think that will help?
Nasty times, they are a coming.
Once the union is in the brainwashing starts and those who have a desire to work will be summarily found to be undesirable by none other than the Union and soon you will be left with a payroll of useless pukes that will fight you at every turn and then demand you pay them more to do less every time their contract comes up for renegotiation.
Posted by: Dave | November 3, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
surge this see you used my term ,brown shirts, how original!!
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
The GOP dregs are out in force tonight!! You are going DOWN like the CLOWNS you are on 4 November. All the Hate filled Fearmongering No Hopers can crawl back under their rocks … take a good look at the sunshine tomorrow – you wont be coming out from under those rocks for a long, long time. You may never come out again. Shout your racist, hate filled foul mouths off all you want – it’s the last opportunity to you will ever get.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Chester,
Much like the ranting and raving done by Democrats in 1999 against Bush? I was one of them and I feel I was right then too. Bush talked like a tough cowboy and thats how he acted as president. Obama talks like a socialist and I promise you thats how he will act as president. Call it fear mongering if you want but the truth will be revealed.
Posted by: FLIndependent | November 3, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
I for one, find Obama to be very thoughtful and intellectual. Not only does he have the gift to inspire, but the gift to see ahead as well. He knows that the American people will have to sacrifice to get through this economic crisis. He doesn’t sugarcode the struggle, but he reminds us that if we could win the American Revolution, if the North could defeat the South- if we could combat segregation and inequality amongst the races, then we could break barriers and become a true “light” on a hill.
I know everything proposed may not happen, given an Obama administration, but the same would be true for McCain. I just refuse to stay in an abusive relationship with the same kind of man, even if it does seem scary at first, but it’s called bravery. Are any of you brave enough to hope for a better future? I just can’t seem to see why it’s so taboo here.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
A left wing sweep of this election might be just what America needs. Finally their hypocrisy will be brought to the forefront.
And by hypocrisy I mean:
1.being FOR the killing of innocent babies; but AGAINST the killing of cop killers and child rapists,
2.wanting FREE SPEECH, but only for those that agree(Fairness Doctorine)
3.the continuation and expansion of proven FAILED economic policies(ie higher taxes)
And the list could go on…
Be careful what you wish for. BHO already divided the DNC, America is next.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Joe the O’Biden would make a better Commisar than Vice President. He looks like he is in a fog all the time with that pasty white face. You can see the botox surging through the blue veins on his face. “That One” wants change and picks a windbag who has been in the Senate for 36 YEARS. Well, keep the change Hussein. I’m voting for Sarah. SMASH THE NANNY STATE.
Posted by: Lord Henry | November 3, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
TCP: “he had to go negative…” he had no policies.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
I can’t wait for Obama to be elected. After working so hard for all these years I can quit my job and have the government spread the wealth my way. Cool. That’s his promise, right? I can count on it, right? He’ll just tax all you fools who continue to work and give it to me. Yea. Where do I sign up?
Posted by: greedygus | November 3, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
As I read these “posts” it becomes apparent what is really happening in the once great country. If any of you so call intellectual liberals knew anything about history or political science, and had an ounce of integrity you would see Obama is as far left as this country has seen. McCain is not the answer, but he is the lesser of two evils. Either way this country is destined for a collision with itself. It was put on course by FDR, and no one has had the stones to do a thing about it since. If alive today every founding father and most Presidents through Lincoln would leave this country to create again what we have collectivly destroyed. I do not owe any of you my money because you are incapable or unwilling to earn your own. I owe my government the means to protect me home and abroad and provide for the collective good (roads, utilities, etc.) Social programs are inherently in violation of this nation’s original goals. Democrats are a party of intentions, but have zero accompishments to show for these intentions. The true enemy is the media, and until we all realize they are driving the agenda we will lose.
Posted by: Shawn | November 3, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Matteroffacts:
Okay I’ll call off the attack dogs. Purely on an idiologial point,regarding your comment to Sandra Gonzo, can’t you see how contradictory your view is? Following Obama’s philosophy, he should give half of his money, that he worked very hard for, to McCain because he has less. Afterall it would be the fair thing to do. This is classic Socialism the one who ends up with the spoils is the one who comes as the saviour, the reformer the man of peace.
Republicans are not necessarily bad people, they have just studied history.
Posted by: Mensa Member | November 3, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
@Robert… why do Al-Qaeda want McCain to win? http://tinyurl.com/55dzu6
@KudosMyfootonBillyAyersneck!… you can do that with freedom? – Shame the party you support have taken more freedom from citizens than any previous administration.
@Dave… wake up, the economy has already been wrecked and the Bush administration made more laws to change the constitution than any previous administration – on two issues in what you posted, you’re supporting the party that has a track record of betraying you on those issues greater than anyone in history.
@Ron… I know you don’t like the fact that prominent Republicans are supporting Obama, but it’s for a good reason and Colin Powell eloquently expressed that quite clearly.
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
ALL I KNOW is THAT IF OBAMA WINS WE ALL LOSE WAIT AND SEE!!
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
As always – dirt and crap from McCain’s thin rows.
Thank’s God, just 1 day left and No Mccain and no stupid Palin anymore, what an excitement!!!!!!!
Posted by: Linda | November 3, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
BHO doesn’t practice what he preaches:
He earned millions of dollars from his “experience” writing 2 memoirs, but only gave 3% to charity.
“Typical” liberal. He only wants to “spread the wealth” with my money, not his own.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Republicans are sick ignorant human beings who have their heads buried so deep up the ass of the criminal elite Republican party they don’t have a clue that their precious party is using them … they just keep lapping it us and asking for more. Their enemy is their own sick party an they can’t even see it. … they actually believe everything the looser McCain camp has told them … they are like invigorated and truned on to Palin. It’s pathetic. Republicans for McCain are pea brains. Pure stupid pea brains. They’d eat poop if McCain said it was a candy bar … they are actually that stupid and ignorant.
Posted by: surgethis | November 3, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
If any Republican made statements like O’Biden makes, i.e. Roosvelt on tv in 1929, Obama will be tested by international crisis in first 6 months, a 3 letter word “jobs” – the liberal idiots would still be writing about it like they did poor Dan Quayle when he spelled potato with an e on the end. You liberals want tolerance for every perverted viewpoint, but refuse to even allow discussion by those who disagree with them. However, I pray that the Lord will bless you and break the deception in you about your “savior”, Obama.
Posted by: david | November 3, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Al-Qaeda wants McCain to win because they are trying to initiate WWIII. Obama won’t fight, much like Clinton, which will only cause them to get more aggressive overseas. McCain would continue fighting in the Middle East which would further the direct war with Al-Qaeda.
Posted by: FLIndependent | November 3, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Lord Henry:) “ring, ring …Hello? This is Osama Bin Laden calling … can I speak with Sarah Palin..?” If it makes you feel good, vote for her. You’re quite safe. There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell the majority of the people of this country will let that idiot anywhere near the White House! That’s a promise. Bank on it! Which part of – she’s a complete idiot – haven’t you gotten yet??
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
I guess you Obama backers are aware Obama (if elected) does NOT plan on renewing the Bush tax cuts! All American taxpayers will soon face higher taxes based on higher tax rates! That one-time welfare check he is planning on giving to 95% of taxpayers is pure bunk! Since most in his designated group don’t pay any taxes now…just call it what it is folks…a one-time welfare check called wealth redistribution via socialism!
Posted by: TRS | November 3, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
OBAMA = JIMMY CARTER2
IF JIMMY CARTER2 WINS, LIBERALS ARE GOING TO LUV THE REGURGITATION OF THE LIBERAL VITRIOL AND HATE FROM THE LAST 8 YEARS
REAL AMERICANS WILL BE PAYING THE FREIGHT, THEY DESERVE TO THROW LIBERAL VITRIOL AND HATE AT THE AMERICA HATERS
Posted by: JFK | November 3, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
I hate to think that we are now using the Democrats’ tactics of trying to disrupt someone’s freedom of speech; therefore, it can only be Democrat plants trying to make us look bad since they were obviously holding back on the real incriminating stuff that would certainly keep any reasonable person from voting for the “tax, spend, reward spendthrifts, punish people who are product” idiots.
Posted by: ed | November 3, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Mensa Member- he’s not president yet, so stop using that “spread the wealth” statement. It’s hypocritical, because since the McCain campaign has less money to spend it suddenly wants to bash Obama. If Obama is elected president he’d be taxing himself too? He’s not excluding himself, he’s not trying to be coy. I just believe that there are some good people out there who want to do good things- I believe Barack Obama is one of them.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
CHESTER
no he had to try and let the people know what Obama is all about the media was to scared of being called racist if they reported on Obama’s votes or lack there of or his past the media that spent 4 month investigating W’s national gaurd time never investigated Obama this year the only thing that came up came from the non “elite” media
Posted by: T C P | November 3, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
I bet Martin Luther King Jr. is rolling in his grave.
He said to “Judge people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.”
Most OBama supporters are voting just for his skin color and obviously not for the content of his character.
Just FOOD for thought.
Posted by: Shastabreeze | November 3, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
TO SUCK THIS I MEAN SURGE THIS ,THANKS A PEA BRAIN IS BIGGER THAN A BB OF WHICH YOU HAVE !!
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Obama says his tax cuts will be for those making less than $250K, then he states that it will be for those making less than $200K, then Biden says $150-200K, then Bill Richardson says $120K, can’t you communist get on the same page and stick to your lies. The truth, all of our taxes will go up when the Bush tax cuts expire. Then we will see tax increased on those making $41.6K as Obama has previously voted in favor of.
BUSH/McCain Econmics..blah blah blah. If elected, this economy will tank so hard if Obama implements his socialist agenda, which will lead to more people looking to the government for handouts. This econonmy has been very strong over the last 8 years given the effects of 9/11, two wars (agree or not), and $145 oil…the GDP still grew at a normal and healthy rate with lower unemployment than during Clinton’s years.
The bailout is the result of Democrats Frank and Dodd getting in the way of real reform and accountability. If there were a Republican whose head they could hang this around, we would have seen Congressional hearings already. Instead, they just blame Pres. Bush as usual…WEAK!
Posted by: Pilotage | November 3, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
PALIN IS AN UGLY COW THAT EVEN LIPSTICK WOULDN’T FIX. THE FACT THAT BRAINLESS RIGHT WINGERS THINK SHE’S A HOTTIE MAKES ME WANT TO HURL. SHE IS THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL GOVERNMENT FREELOADER AND NOTHING MORE. BUT THE RIGHT WING MANIACS LOVE HER AND THINK SHE IS GREAT. THEY ACTUALLY THINK SHE IS GREAT. WOW. YOU CAN’T EVEN GET A DOG TO BUY THAT LAME PRODUCT LET ALONE THINK SHE IS SOME SORT OF HERO. RIGHT WINGERS ARE ANGRY, DUMB, AND IGNORANT.
Posted by: surgethis | November 3, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
ed- who’d stoop that low? Have you seen your rallies?
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
PALIN IS HOT YOURE NOT TOO BAD!!
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Far too many Americans are uninformed. I think the voting balots should number the candidates (i.e. leave off their names) and list off each candidate’s policies. That would probably force 75% of the nation to guess which one is really the candidate they support.
Or we could just make people pass an American government and economics test before letting them vote.
Posted by: FLIndependent | November 3, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Rolling back the tax cuts for those earning over $250,000 and instead giving those to hard-working middle-class families is not socialism, nor is it a case of “we all lose”.
Quite the opposite, for 75% of America’s gainfully employed citizens it will benefit them.
Helping the majority of America’s EMPLOYED citizens by giving them a tax-break… is not socialism, you’d have to be pretty brainwashed to think it was.
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Obama voted “present” 129 times, 3 percent of the roughly 4,000 times he voted during his 8 years in the Illinois legislature–
If a college student was present 3 percent of the time/in his classes, would he pass his course?????????
Posted by: GoldTmmys | November 3, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
I bet Martin Luther King Jr. is rolling in his grave.
He said to “Judge people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.”
Most OBama supporters are voting just for his skin color and obviously not for the content of his character.
Just FOOD for thought.
NOT TRUE YOU LOSER.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Why is Europe moving more to the right and we are turning 180 degrees to a socialist state you Dems want to tell me why.
Posted by: T C P | November 3, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
SURGE THIS WHAT KIND OF JOB DO YOU HAVE OR DO YOU EVEN HAVE A JOB ???
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
It’s about time someone called attention to Joe the Biden. The man could be a heartbeat away from the presidency! It’s embarrassing. Just what we need – another talker to advise Big Talker No. 1. Vote McCain – Palin – put a team of real leaders in the White House!
Posted by: Puma Judy | November 3, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Anyone noticed the eerie similarity if the Obama Icon and the symbol that Bill Ayers place on the cover of his communist manifesto, Prairie Fire?
Or how about thos Obama signs that resemble a Mao Tse-Tung banner. I’ve seen a few of those on some street corners in Seattle.
It took me back more than just a little.
I can’t beleive how willing he is to telegragh his intentions and the pattern for his agenda.
The only thing I can think about this is that once he is in and starts getting his ideas onto law he will respond to the inquiries about what he is doing by saying,
“Well what did you think I was talking about, did you think I was kidding?, of course I’m a communist!”
Then he will beckon to a nearby uniformed official with an arm band sporting the campaign symbol and bark out the order,
“Comrade, arrest this disruptor, he is an enemy of the people”
Posted by: Dave | November 3, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Ed: Do you think Shasta, TCP, JFK – Do you think they are all Dem Plants?? Broadcasting Garbage … Just to make the GOP dregs look bad? mmm There’s a thought to ponder with. After it’s over and Obama is President – when the Nation dissects the phenomenon of all the filth from the GOP dregs that spewed out in these closing hours – is that what you’ll say too? It wasn’t US it was THEM pretending to be US…. You guys are a hoot! You’ve actually lost the capacity to be honest – even with yourselves!!!
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Well that is a change of pace, republicans disrupting freedom of speech. Isn’t that a dem tactic? I suspect it was really some dems trying to act like repubs for the news folks.
Posted by: A_First | November 3, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Ed: Do you think Shasta, TCP, JFK – Do you think they are all Dem Plants?? Broadcasting Garbage … Just to make the GOP dregs look bad? mmm There’s a thought to ponder with. After it’s over and Obama is President – when the Nation dissects the phenomenon of all the filth from the GOP dregs that spewed out in these closing hours – is that what you’ll say too? It wasn’t US it was THEM pretending to be US…. You guys are a hoot! You’ve actually lost the capacity to be honest – even with yourselves!!!
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
At a recent rally John McCain called Joe the Plumber “a great American hero” and a “role model”. Let’s see–a guy who only works part time–a guy who is a plumber and can’t even bother to get licensed–a guy who doesn’t pay his taxes, a guy who B.S.es about buying a business he could never afford–Yeah–that’s a great American Hero and role model.
Posted by: teacher | Nov 2, 2008 3:22:46 PM
This is truly shameful. The fact that you libs claim to be for free speech and dialogue yet are the first people to want to silence those that disagree with you. What the Earth does Joe the Plumber’s backround have to do with ANYTHING? The fact that you joyfully point out shortcomings of his (true or not) when he was just a person who asked a question of a political canidate is really quite scary. If you guys truly believed in the things you claim to you would be screaming bloody murder about the fact that people have been looking into his backround. You people who claim to be first amendment advocates have really been exposed. You’re for freedom of speech if it concerns you and your ilk, but you spit on the Constitution when it comes to those you don’t agree with. This man has been investigated because he illicited a response from a politican that he wished he hadn’t uttered? You support this violation of a person’s privacy? Do you realize what a dangerous road you’re on the minute you let government start investigating it’s own citizens for simply speaking out against said government? Whatever the character of this man “Joe the Plumber” it is meaningless! He could be a serial killer and it wouldn’t change the fact that the issue is what Obama thinks is the role of the goverment concerning redistibution of wealth. If you people on the left sanction this dangerous violation of privacy simply because you want a particular canidate to win then, as far as I’m concerned, you have no credibility when it comes to understanding the true meaning of freedom of speech. This is chilling stuff folks. Do you realize what you’re actually approving of here? Over the past 8 years I’ve had to read editorial after editorial saying Bush has eroded freedoms and the constitution, but can you provide any example of the Bush administration conducting a backround check on a private citizen for the sole purpose of sullying his reputation for politcal gain? Well the Democrats are doing it right now…and you’re cheering them on! Take a step back people…I fear you don’t realize the gravity of what you’re approving of here. All Americans….Liberals, Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats, plumbers, and CEOs should be outraged by this stunning abuse of politcal might. Do you people actually know what your condoning here?
Posted by: rocco | November 3, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
GoldTmmys- voting present does not just mean you’re present. It means you neither disagree or agree on a piece of legislation. This means that Obama was actually present more times than 3% and that you, sir, are wrong.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
If the false prophet is elected hope will change to nope, change is all you will have remaining in your pocket and dissenters will be sent for re education.
Posted by: Hippie free USA | November 3, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time. He has over 50 lobbyists working on his campaign. He is a right wing elitist and Washington insider. THere is nothing maverick about him. He’s a liar. His campaign has been all about attack and lies because he is loosing. His ideas are no better than Bush and his economic policies would be a disaster. He is willing to trash his opponent using blatant distortions going so far as to insight violence from his rabid supporters … who will drink in anything he says becasue they are bankrupt After 8 years of following the most criminal president in the history of the UNited States that are wild with need. Having mainlined one lie and distortion after another from their criminal party they would rather keep doing it than get help pr wake up. Palin was and is nothing more than a fix a new face for them to put their addicted hopes in. A shinny new product they can idolize and that makes them forget that they are responsible for the death of over a million people. They are to blame. Better to keep lying … maybe they can just keep lying forever.
Posted by: surgethis | November 3, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Europe has turned to the right oh that’s right Obama hasn’t told you that yet so you don’t no it yet.
Posted by: T C P | November 3, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
“Exactly the reason I voted against all Republicans this year. So sick of their divisiveness.”
Spot on Chad. It’s not like the Democratic controlled congress ever opposed Bush on anything. And as we all know, liberals never protest, never disrupt meetings. I mean they are the perfect symbol of unity and bipartisanship.
Posted by: V | November 3, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
The DEMOCRATS are the dividers. Not just of the political parties but of the races. McCain has a PROVEN record of Bi-Partisanship. Obama does not. It matters not how much you try to deny it… the record is very clear on this. Shame on you people for spreading lies about ‘Joe’. Interesting that the party supposedly for the middle class would try to destroy one of them because he dared asked a question of the messiah. Just imagine if McCain had one of his supporters in Office looking into the background of anyone on the dems side. An avalanche of protests, not just by the media, but by the simpletons the democrats call their base would be the order of the day. It’s very scary how far the left has fallen in it’s decadence. Thank GOD you still have a few good Blue Dog Democrats keeping your party sane. We can only hope they can take back their party from the loons on the far left. That sentiment goes for the Republicans too… I can’t stand how the Far Right has hijacked the party. McCain is no Right Winger… I hope he can bring Palin and the rest of the base more to the center where he is.
Posted by: Diana | November 3, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
I find it very mystifying that anyone thinks Powell’s endorsement of Obama is anything but a bitter ex-important General and Sec. Of State’s attack at the establishment that took his credibility. Powell was not ready for politics because he was not ready to be told he wasn’t the smartest person in the room.
His reputation now rests on a coin that has a horses ass on each side.
If he was telling the truth as he believed it to be before the UN then Obama has called him a liar and an idoit for taking us into the “waste” of a war. If this is the case why would the Obama people care about or even want this man’s endorsement?
If he was just doing what the evil Bush told him to do, then where is the integrity of this great American hero. As a former member of the military I recall raising my right hand and swearing to protect and defend this nation – and this man was a General! If you are willing to put men and women in harms way because someone said so you are without honor or integrity. Again who would want an endorsement from this man?
Either way Colin Powell has zero credibility, and that must be personally hard to deal with for a man that was once held in such great esteem.
This man is selling out his country so journalists don’t say bad things about him anymore…well I tell my 10 year old not to worry about what others say. Maybe Colin Powell doesn’t think that is good advice.
Anyone swayed by his endorsement is mentally challenged or blinded by a lust for power that they will never have the hope of exercising.
Posted by: Shawn | November 3, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
What do you mean, beat his wife? I don’t remember any of the illegal, civil-rights-violating invasions of Joe’s privacy stating that! I didn’t Joe the Plumber’s wife was beaten, but I do know Joe the Hairplug’s wife is dead! How’s that for irrelevant hurtful demagogic invective, you sanctimonious louts?
Obama is the little red button with no label. There is something in some people that makes them want to push it.
Posted by: nekulturny | November 3, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Biden is a worthless pawn.
I would rather endure a 3rd term of Bush than a 2nd term of Stalin/Marx.
Beware of a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Posted by: Jim | November 3, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
I was at a McCain/Palin rally last month and there were Obama supporters on the bullhorn and shouting obnoxiously at the McCain/Palin supporters. Funny, that did not make the news…..
Posted by: Ann | November 3, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
GoldTmmys are you stupid or just a complete Moron?
He voted many more times than that, the 3% stat is when he voted ‘present’ as opposed to a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ vote.
Seriously, try to read things fully and comprehend them properly, it might help you avoid making statements that are ridiculously false.
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
GERMANY IS SOCIALIST ,65 PERCENT TAXES!!DO YOU BRAINS WANT TO SPEND YOUR MONEY OR LET THE GOVERNMENT HELP YPU!!!
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Ann, it did on Kieth O’s show, but funny no one here seems to think it worth watching.
Also, for everytime one of you nuts call Obama supporters “liberal” I think I’ll match that for “uptight”.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
And can we quit talking about Sam “Joe” the unqualified “Plumber” please, the guy is not called Joe, he’s not a qualified plumber…
doesn’t that give you a slight clue as to just how phony he is?
Even Fox News called him out on his delusional views!!!
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Wake up people. Are you really that stupid? It does not matter if you are a Democrat or a Republican or anything else. A unified, loving, all vote the same way government with no divisiveness is called COMMUNISM!! I want another party to keep the other party in check.
Don’t be stupid. Don’t vote for Socialism. You may not like either candidate but don’t vote for Socialism.
Posted by: msubulldogtx | November 3, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Obama is a sellout to the rich and he is a liar. Biden is just Biden. He has been a pathalogical liar all of his life: HENCE HE BECAME A DEMOCRAT.
I will probably be one the first to be arrested by Obama’s SS civilain police, and they will carry me off along with the rest of their commie buddies.
Posted by: Bob Snakely | November 3, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
I’ll respectfully disagree with Dave.
Obama may try to lead this country into ruin if he wins, but only the lemurs will follow him into the abyss, or maybe the mosque. I may take the welfare check for a while after he shuts down my company, if he insists. It will take little time to return us to prosperity again when he is gone. In the meantime, do your part by voting, then just sit back and enjoy the circus.
McCain/Palin/JohnGalt08
Posted by: Toby55 | November 3, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
France and Italy have made the turn Perfection takes time and others are getting sick of the islamic extremist coming into there countries and creating problems they are starting to get it
Posted by: T C P | November 3, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
There is only one false hope and that is the lie that is McCain/ Palin. THey are lying to their supporters because they got nothing to talk about. Obama can speak about hope and the future with clearity and calm… whereas McCain/Palin are screeching nothing but hate and lies.
I don’t care if you right wingers get it .. you have lost everything. You let your party go to the perverts, right wing religious nuts and the violent racists all in the name of what you call the “real America” . Fact is you don’t have a clue … you righties have to be told what to think because you gave up that function when you worshiped at the alter of hate and fear. I’ve read your posts here and they are are filled with the lies and talking points McCain so desperately needs you to repeat.
McCain needs you to repeat them over and over to yourselves and to everyone until you are all whipped into a frenzy. You don’t know up from down and you are so freking scared out of your minds and you should be. Because your fake lying small little childish world is going to come tumbling down all around. A black guy is going to be president and I hope is blows what ever pea brains you have left right out of both your ears.
Republicans for McCain are the same zombies that voted and supported Bush. We’ll get ready because we have had it with your pathetic sad angry cry baby lies.
Posted by: surgethis | November 3, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Obamabots lie and lie more. Last year, McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time, in previous years McCain voted much less down to around 63% in one year and averaging around 80% altogether. Now lets talk about Obama’s voting record as pathetic as it is. 94 times Obama voted to raise taxes—-94 with 130 times he voted Present so he would have to make a decision on go on record……all those with missing either the most or one of the most days of any senator.
Posted by: chattyway | November 3, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Gee, Hippie Free. And you sound like a really Hope filled kinda guy usually. All the positive things that McCain was going to do to really turn the country around and get it back on its feet again. Remeber those? No. Neither does anybody else. Guess he was too busy pandering to the dregs of the GOP base to find the time to put that positive program for reform and change together. Obama is running for President of The United States. The man has done his job. Don’t spit venom because McCain didn’t do his job. You really do need to have to do more to become President than throw baseless accusations at your oponent and raise your eyebrows at discrete intervals. Obama did the work, and he’ll get the job. McCain continued along the Bush line of taking the electorate for granted, and he will lose. He deserves to lose. He didn’t do nearly well enough. Don’t blame Obama – McCain already took that job, there’s no vacancy left. Blame McCain – he let you down. And BOY has he let you down. What’s that word McCain likes so much? Cratered. The GOP cratered. And McCain watched.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
I have read most of the posts tonight and I find the stream somewhat disconcerting. When History doesn’t support Obama (the 3/5 vote portion of the Constitution) then it should be simply omitted. When some group of folks disagree with Obama they are racists. When a citizen asks a question of anyone running for office, and that question is tough to answer, or they give a “wrong” answer then the one asking the question should be distroyed, not the one running for office. Finally, when Obama, “the one” is elected, if he is, we will all be united. (Of course, if he is not they we are all racist.) It is all interesting.
Posted by: Dennis | November 3, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
SURGE THIS ,DO YOU EVEN HAVE A JOB???
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
You know you’ve lost an argument when you bring Hitler into it.
I can’t wait until Wednesday!
Posted by: Former Republican | November 3, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Obamabots lie and lie more. Last year, McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time, in previous years McCain voted much less down to around 63% in one year and averaging around 80% altogether. Now lets talk about Obama’s voting record as pathetic as it is. 94 times Obama voted to raise taxes—-94 with 130 times he voted Present so he would not have to go on record making a decision (this makes it easier for him to lie and deceive now)……Not to mention, all of those days he missed in the Senate—-he is one of the most absent Senators.
Posted by: chattyway | November 3, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Matteroffacts:
I totally agree with your point that “As far as I’m concerned Obama can spend all the money he likes”. Unfortunately he does not wish to afford that right to other American citizens. Sadly, you can’t cherry pick where and when to apply his policies. In a way I am glad that you and others still have hope in goodness within power, however, I find your faith in Obama hoplessly naive. All of these limousine Liberals in Hollywood and Washington, even the divine Obama himself have accountants and tax attornys that work for them to minimize their tax burden with offshore accounts, tax shelters etc. they are by definition hypocrites. If Obama gets in I will hope for the best but unfortunately if so you wlll remember this post when his policies bring what all socialist policies eventally lead to and then you will be posting from the right based on the voice of experience.
Posted by: Mensa Member | November 3, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
That is funny isn’t that what you Dems call Bush is Hitler
Posted by: T C P | November 3, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
Chattyway: These figures have been disproven NUMEROUS times. Most of it was brought up in the televised debates! What’s wrong with you? Are you mentally challenged?? You have to cast your vote in just over a day from now. Maybe you should give blogging a miss and go do a couple of hours research…Voting is a Responsibility. It’s an important one. Stop socialising and get studying.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
What makes you morons think that this clown O’Bama is going to bring the country together? HE WILL NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT! I’m a legal American Citizen, I’ll pay my taxes but I’ll never accept that lying AHOLE as my leader. If you’re that EFFING stupid, that’s your problem.
Posted by: Tom | November 3, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF SURGE THIS EVEN HAS A JOB??
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Warren Buffet, the billionaire, thinks it is a disgrace that he pays 17.7 % in taxes, while his receptionist pays 30%. Obama’s “Socialism” is that he wants to make the wealthy pay their fair share and reduce the unfair burden on the middle class. He will raise taxes on the wealthy to what they were under Clinton, and lower taxes on the middle class to the percentage they were under Richard Nixon. That is what fanatics like James Dobson are describing as “the end of American life as we have known it.”
Posted by: Gary | Nov 2, 2008 4:26:57 PM
What on Earth are you talking about? The rich pay 36% of their income in federal income taxes. A secretary who isn’t making more than $50K a year pays less than 20%. Heck…I’d be mad too if I thought the rich payed a lower percentage in taxes, but that’s simply the case. This is dangerous stuff folks. There are far too many people in this country who don’t understand what’s really going and who are very easily manipulated. The liberals in power have no problem misleading the electorate because they’d win very few elections if they were truthful. They play this game of class envy and warfare to gain power. Every time I hear Obama or some other Dem railing about Bush’s tax cuts for the rich I want to scearm. He’s implying that Bush passed some law (as if the President can enact any law without Congressional support)that let’s rich people pay less than poor people. I’ve actually read posts by people saying they don’t think the rich should be punished, but they don’t like the fact that rich people pay less in taxes than poor people! That’s what they actually believe and this is precisely because the Dems want you to believe that. However, they are lying. Bush cut the ferderal tax rate for the wealthy from 39% to 36%…hardly some criminal act. He did this because, to a very wealthy person, that could be an additional 50k or 100K for that person and in turn that could create at least a couple of jobs. You know jobs….the think everybody needs to make a living. However, the Dems will NEVER tell it to you straight because it wouldn’t get people all fired up if they said…”Bush cut the rich people’s tax rates and now they only pay twice a percentage as you do!” It just wouldn’t have the same effect.
Posted by: rocco | November 3, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Duh! Nobody has a problem in the Obama with questions that are legitimate of any candidate. Nobody. The McCain camp has used typical political tactics to infer distortions. “Who is Obama”. As if this supposes he is not to be trusted. McCain has been dirty though out this campaign. I am white and I am voting for Obama. I trust him over McCain. McCain has lied about who he is to the point where even members of his own party have defected. They see him sinking to lows they never thought possible.
McCain’s VP pick. Palin. Sorry but that’s just not smart. McCain may have got a bunh of you righties to think “hey we are all new again” but it’s just a ploy. Just like an ad for a new product. Fact is that this product Palin isn’t worth the price.
You righties are all a flutter now … you have this bouncy party doll to play with. For those of you who have put your hopes and dreams in Palin you are up for a rude awakening. She’s a scam and fake. But you won’t listen. You are too caught up in your new fantasy.
You know like the one that you mainlined for the last 8 years that led you to a total breakdown in the economy and where over a million people have been killed and even more displaced because you refused to see the truth. Good luck with that cause now a black American is going to be president and you are going to have to drink the coffee and wake up to it.
This is an ABC blog sight .. ABC Corporate McCain Republican channel … that explains the right wing hard core talking point element. It was fun for me. Later
Posted by: surgethis | November 3, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Mensa: Are you offering anything of value here or just knocking Obama? You say that you are concerned about wealthy people using tax loopholes – how concerned about that have you been for the past 8 years? What do you suggest McCain proposes to do to help with the imbalance in tax responsibility – other than make it worse (his proposed changes to Capital Gains speaks volumes for who he wants to help – and it isn’t middle class America). Isn’t criticising Obama, without offering anything positive himself – precisely why McCain is showing so poorly in the polls? It’s all we see – from him and from his supporters…That’s not a winning position. Or do you think it is?
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
surgethis – Ha.
I can see your hatred in your words, so funny. You were trembling as you wrote that weren’t you? Write of hatred as you should, as you surely know how to feel it. You libs can’t even annoy us let alone evoke hatred. I haven’t heard one conservative yet threaten to leave for Canada if Osama wins. You are comical, typing here while in your drug induced nightmare of a world.
Posted by: SaminLA | November 3, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Gold Tmmysand Matters The truth hurts doesn’t….
I bet Martin Luther King Jr is rolling in his grave.
He said “Judge people by the content of there character and not by the color of their skin.”
Most OBama supporters are voting just for his skin color and obviously not for the content of his character.
Just FOOD for thought.
Posted by: Shastabreeze | November 3, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Mensa Member- I have the choice between being naive or foolish. Neither of them are safe, but I would rather take my chances on the guy who didn’t vote with Bush 90% of the time. I’d rather not go with a guy who is into theatrics and bigotry. Instead I’d rather go for the guy who is doing his best to be transparent and honest. A person who agrees he is not perfect (and I don’t expect him to be)and a person who is tolerant.
I can’t have a president who the world sees as bloodthirsty because he thinks America’s army is invincible and he can take on N.Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, and Iraq at the same time- it’s foolish.
I want the guy I vote for to be humble and upfront, and to also be respected both nationally and abroad. A guy who isn’t afraid to voice his opinion even though it may seem unpopular- like his protest into going into Iraq. I just feel we should do what’s responsible, and if people view me as being naive based off my beliefs- then, so what. They’re entitled to their opinon just like I’m entitled to mine.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
I am not a fan of McCain, but to be very honest, an Obama presidency scares me to death. He has said himself that he believes our Constitution is “fundamentally flawed” and does not believe the Warren Court went far enough. His “spread the wealth” comments, not to mention his radical associations with terrorist Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Rezko . . . Michelle Obama being proud of her country “for the first time in her life”, the list goes on. The more I learn about him, the worse it gets.
I would’ve much preferred Hillary over Obama any day.
We can at least trust McCain and know that he has our country’s best interests at heart – he has proven that with his battle scars. I cannot trust Obama and I am truly scared what will become of our nation if he is elected.
Posted by: Christy | November 3, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
how many of you out there has ever been hired by a poor person. an extra 500 to a family helps to buy a tv once but a tax cut to a buisness creates a yearly income to multiple families
Posted by: T C P | November 3, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
surgethis – Gee, jealousy of Palin even. You have all the virtuous emotions don’t you.
Posted by: SaminLA | November 3, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
clinging to my guns and religion, I guess I’ll just console myself by buying yet another case of ammunition.
Posted by: j galt | November 3, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
OBAMA/BIDEN 08
OBAMA/BIDEN 08
OBAMA/BIDEN 08
Sad Republicans … can’t see past what they are told … they all have the same talking points and yet they think they have come up with some great insightful thoughts about Obama. Sorry righty … you never listened to anything Obama actually said … you only listened to what McCain told you. Your not so bright after all are you now? You know I am right. I’ve looked at both sides and Obama is the superior man for the job. Palin isn’t qualified. She was a terrible pick… even prominent members of your own party admit that much …
But keep drinking the cool-aid. Chug-a lug-lug.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08
OBAMA/BIDEN 08
OBAMA/BIDEN 08
Posted by: surgethis | November 3, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
I would’ve much preferred Hillary over Obama any day.
We can at least trust McCain and know that he has our country’s best interests at heart – he has proven that with his battle scars. I cannot trust Obama and I am truly scared what will become of our nation if he is elected.
Christy, now are you serious? Hillary and McCain are polar opposites. That is why she is now doing everything in her power to get Obama elected.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
roco: ” There are far too many people in this country who don’t understand what’s really going and who are very easily manipulated.” YOU WISH!!!!! We know what’s going on – we know everytime we open our front doors or our wallets. We’ve had the fearmongering “this is dangerous! This is dangerous!” We did that the last two times, remember? Not a third time, Roco. You kidding me? The 8 year Train Wreck isn’t going to be extended to 12 years. Sorry if that upsets you so much, but that’s life. Some times we need a change. And we know when we need a change, pal. NO-ONE is so stupid that they don’t know when they need to change. Bush pushed up to the Brink – McCain ain’t taking us over the edge. Party is Over. All the Dem will be leaving the site shortly – we have lifes, we aren’t all studying up on the Book of Revelations and Mein Kampf to create scary blogs with. Enjoy talking among yourselves and pseudo scaring each other. Have Fun!
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
roco: ” There are far too many people in this country who don’t understand what’s really going and who are very easily manipulated.” YOU WISH!!!!! We know what’s going on – we know everytime we open our front doors or our wallets. We’ve had the fearmongering “this is dangerous! This is dangerous!” We did that the last two times, remember? Not a third time, Roco. You kidding me? The 8 year Train Wreck isn’t going to be extended to 12 years. Sorry if that upsets you so much, but that’s life. Some times we need a change. And we know when we need a change, pal. NO-ONE is so stupid that they don’t know when they need to change. Bush pushed up to the Brink – McCain ain’t taking us over the edge. Party is Over. All the Dem will be leaving the site shortly – we have lifes, we aren’t all studying up on the Book of Revelations and Mein Kampf to create scary blogs with. Enjoy talking among yourselves and pseudo scaring each other. Have Fun!
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Smart Democrats don’t vote Obama/Biden. A lot more Democrat ballots have been turned in than Republican ones for early voting….but who were marked on the ballots? My sister in Colorado (a life-long Democrat and Hillary supporter) voted McCain/Palin. My sister in Oregon (another lifelong Democrat) voted neither McCain or Obama….she threw away her vote by writing in Hillary Clinton. PUMA is roaring louder than you think! Don’t lose heart – Republicans. Vote no matter what the polls or news say. A lot of states are voting absentee, so we may not know for days what the final results are.
Posted by: LoveMyGOP | November 3, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
@Dave… wake up, the economy has already been wrecked and the Bush administration made more laws to change the constitution than any previous administration – on two issues in what you posted, you’re supporting the party that has a track record of betraying you on those issues greater than anyone in history.
Horse pucky, my friend,
I don’t fear anything that Bush has done to safe guard the county. I do however dispise everything the Democrats have done to manipulate and twist the intent of the policies and laws that this Administration set forth.
This current crap we are faced with in the finacnial markets is a direct result of Bill Clinton signing into law the bill that enabled financial institutions to loan money to people that could not afford it.
That was done to help poor people to own homes, So what if they can’t keep it after the payments start to rise.
Rules and oversight that were attempted to be imposed by the Bush Administration were rubuffed by Barney Frank and his crowd. The fact that other folks jumped on the bandwagon and saw this for the opportunity it was to make money is more cause to disrespect the Democrats in charge of the piggy bank.
Then to use it to their advantage as a political ploy agianst the president with the help of the media. I’m sorry but I just can’t see the problem your point.
As soon as the Congress is Filibuster proof I’m guessing the Democrats will make sure the poor can keep their homes the next time around. The middle class will be selling their places to pay the taxes that will make it possible for the depant class to keep thier homes.
As for terrorist, Obama apparently likes to watch young Palestinian children dancing and performing mock beheadings. That is what is on the video the LA times is holding and will not release
So yeah, your guy is less than honorable and is in not to be trusted.
I fear him more than Hillary.
And that’s not saying much since it was Bill Clinton the cigar poking Philanderer in chief that let the country’s guard down while he was lifting as many skirts as he could get his hands on and admiring himself in the mirror.
The thing the Democrats are best at is letting vital systems fall apart and then blaming the tragedy and human suffering on the Republicans.
They really don’t care who they hurt as long as they retain power.
By the way , have you seen the recent report showing how much Wall Street has contributed the Democrats and Obama?
I guess that tells the story, they know who buter their toast, hey?
Posted by: Dave | November 3, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
@Dave… wake up, the economy has already been wrecked and the Bush administration made more laws to change the constitution than any previous administration – on two issues in what you posted, you’re supporting the party that has a track record of betraying you on those issues greater than anyone in history.
Horse pucky, my friend,
I don’t fear anything that Bush has done to safe guard the county. I do however dispise everything the Democrats have done to manipulate and twist the intent of the policies and laws that this Administration set forth.
This current crap we are faced with in the finacnial markets is a direct result of Bill Clinton signing into law the bill that enabled financial institutions to loan money to people that could not afford it.
That was done to help poor people to own homes, So what if they can’t keep it after the payments start to rise.
Rules and oversight that were attempted to be imposed by the Bush Administration were rubuffed by Barney Frank and his crowd. The fact that other folks jumped on the bandwagon and saw this for the opportunity it was to make money is more cause to disrespect the Democrats in charge of the piggy bank.
Then to use it to their advantage as a political ploy agianst the president with the help of the media. I’m sorry but I just can’t see the problem your point.
As soon as the Congress is Filibuster proof I’m guessing the Democrats will make sure the poor can keep their homes the next time around. The middle class will be selling their places to pay the taxes that will make it possible for the depant class to keep thier homes.
As for terrorist, Obama apparently likes to watch young Palestinian children dancing and performing mock beheadings. That is what is on the video the LA times is holding and will not release
So yeah, your guy is less than honorable and is in not to be trusted.
I fear him more than Hillary.
And that’s not saying much since it was Bill Clinton the cigar poking Philanderer in chief that let the country’s guard down while he was lifting as many skirts as he could get his hands on and admiring himself in the mirror.
The thing the Democrats are best at is letting vital systems fall apart and then blaming the tragedy and human suffering on the Republicans.
They really don’t care who they hurt as long as they retain power.
By the way , have you seen the recent report showing how much Wall Street has contributed the Democrats and Obama?
I guess that tells the story, they know who buter their toast, hey?
Posted by: Dave | November 3, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
OBAMA = MY BROTHERS KEEPER YET HIS FAMILY LIVES IN SLUMLAND!! AND HE IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF YOU ,YEAH RIGHT ??
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
PUMA? And they said the Obama supporters were divisive. Please.
PUMA members what’d you do with the 30 pieces of silver?
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
I guess I am most interested to see what happens if Obama loses. I mean obviously the Republicans will have “stolen” yet another election. Obviously numerous lawsiuts will be filed and mass protests will ensue.
But what will all of these Dems do when they find out that Kids by and large don’t vote, or worse yet they find out conservatives don’t respond to pollsters?
Will all of us hicks that cling to our guns and religion still be morons? Will you still demand social engeneering through government mandated handouts? Will our kids still continue to get more dollars per student than the entire world, but still be incapable of reciting history or balance a checkbook?
What if the unthinkable happens and this Obama is elected and then the truth about his Chicago thug politics is revealed? What if $200 billion is illegal foriegn money into his campaign? What if massive voter fraud wins this election? Will you same Democrats that excoriate the evil Republicans say, “Our guy cheated and therefore McCain is our President?”
Of course we all know you won’t, and that is why you are all unfit. You are unfit to be parents, you are unfit to be leaders, and quite frankly you are unfit to even be citizens. You are liars, cheaters, communitsts, socialists, elitest and most importantly fools. You are the sheep everyone (including you) talk about. You are the angry mob, you are the bigoted sterotypers, you are everything you claim to hate while eloquently spewing that same hate.
You are the people that blame No Child Left Behind on Bush, and somehow forget Ted Kennedy wrote the bill. You are the same people that claim McCarthy was a government hit man on innocent people, when nearly everyone that was brought in was indeed a communist and oddly enough the commision was a House select committee. McCarthy was a Senator.
You highly educated, smarter than the rest of us liberals are unfortunatly so riduculously stupid that you don’t realize you are the problem and your solution is to make the rest of us like you. You ARE unpatriotic, you ARE socalists, your ARE…well you’re Democrats, that about sums it up.
Posted by: Shawn | November 3, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
OK, OK. All those OBAMA/BIDEN 08 ‘s just convinced me to change my vote. Oh, wait, I forgot, I was already liberal scum.
Posted by: John W. | November 3, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
he changed laws maybe but not the constitution that takes 2/3 of the house and senate then we vote on it
Posted by: T C P | November 3, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
From everything I keep hearing it seems that people really want a healthy economy. Well…what do you guys think would benefit the economy more? A 2 percent tax break to somebody making under 50K a year which results in that person being able to buy…say…a new Ipod…or….a 2 percent tax cut to somebody who makes several million dollars resulting in the creation of a several jobs? I know it sounds disturbing 2 give a tax cut to somebody already doing so well, but if we’re are really serious about the welfare of the economy and jobs then what makes more sense? The Ipod or the jobs? Believe it or not people who emply other people need to have money to do it and while that new Ipod would be cool to get it won’t put food on the table and keep you viably emplyed for 20 years. It’s really just simple economics, but it’s so much more fun to influence people by inflaming their predispostions for envy and jealousy. I know it’s fun to hate your boss, but without them most of us wouldn’t have a job. Obama’s plans will not create more jobs unless they’re government jobs and that’s his true aim. He wants more and more people to be government employees because then you’ll owe him your lifelihood. However, it’s dangerous if everybody works for the government. Remember….they’re supposed to work for us. Just think of the power you’re granting government if you’re dependent on it for your very livelihood? That’s what they want to happen.
Posted by: rocco | November 3, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Sam: “You libs can’t even annoy us let alone evoke hatred…” No, Sam. GOP are the Masters of FearMongering and Hatred. You win that one, hands down. That’s why you’ll be sitting sadly in the dark on Tuesday night, while the rest of us are celebrating the election of Obama – a man we will help to be the finest President this country has ever seen. Enjoy your hatred. Enjoy it on your own.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
UPTIGHT UPTIGHTS!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
TO JOHN W ,THERE IS NOT MUCH WORSE !CAN YOU NOT CHANGE?
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
“a man we will help to be the finest President this country has ever seen”–chester burns
Compared to who? Jimmy Carter?
Let’s see if he can even manage to get elected first.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
only one candidate was a member of a racist “church” for 20 years (and gave the racist preacher earmarks) that was Barrack H. Obama whose illegal alien aunt is living in a taxpayer-funded home.
Barrack will take all that you have and “give” it away to those who don’t work.
Socialism. Not an American value.
The USA will never be an obamanation
Posted by: americanLatina | November 3, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
It’s getting late, I’m making too many type o’s and my computer is acting up, just posted the same thing twice by mistake.
Time to go to bed, I’ve got to work in the morning and need a full rest to be worth two cents when I get there.
This has been a great opportunity to read and share thoughts.
I hope I am wrong about Oboma. If he wins the election I hope he pulls the country together and makes the nation and the world safer. I hope he lifts everyone’s boat and prosperty will be had fairly by all.
Trouble is I don’t believe a thing he says and there is not one shred of trust I have in the man.
He’s too young, too new, too sure of himself and too full of Horse Pucky.
To bad the first Black man that gets this close had to be a con artist and a marxist.
I would have liked to have been able to say I voted for the guy instead of being relieved that I didn’t.
Posted by: Dave | November 3, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
It’s getting late, I’m making too many type o’s and my computer is acting up, just posted the same thing twice by mistake.
Time to go to bed, I’ve got to work in the morning and need a full rest to be worth two cents when I get there.
This has been a great opportunity to read and share thoughts.
I hope I am wrong about Oboma. If he wins the election I hope he pulls the country together and makes the nation and the world safer. I hope he lifts everyone’s boat and prosperty will be had fairly by all.
Trouble is I don’t believe a thing he says and there is not one shred of trust I have in the man.
He’s too young, too new, too sure of himself and too full of Horse Pucky.
To bad the first Black man that gets this close had to be a con artist and a marxist.
I would have liked to have been able to say I voted for the guy instead of being relieved that I didn’t.
Posted by: Dave | November 3, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
I’M VOTING FOR THE MAN WHO BELIEVES HEALTHCARE IS A RIGHT, NOT A PRIVELEGE. I’M VOTING FOR THE GUY WHO KNOWS THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE ECONOMY ARE NOT STRONG (HENCE OUR RECESSION). I’M VOTING FOR THE MAN WHO KNEW THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS ILLEGITIMATE.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
ABAMANATION IS MOR LIKE IT !!!
Posted by: jim | November 3, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
matterofacts and chester burns:
I wholehartedly endorse you right to your opinion, however, rather than just expouse mine I am trying to enlighten you as to what brought me to my position. We don’t have the space here to cover it all but suffice it to say that macro economics is more complex than just saying Republicans want to help the rich. Capital gains tax effects every member of the middle-class with a 401k; it is a matterofact that the Democrats were responsible for the sub-pime loan crisis (even Bill Clinton acknowledged that); a strong defence is essential to our safty and security. It is proven that lowering taxes increases the revenue to the government and bolsters the economy. It is also proven that taxing into a recession results in a depression. You will be pleased to hear that we know this because of the actions of a REPUBLICAN president Herbert Hoover. Unlike democrats, modern Republicans learn from the past and base their idiologies on facts and history not emotions and hope.
Posted by: Mensa Member | November 3, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
3 Men who brought down Wall Street:
1. Franklin Raines: was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae.
Raines left with a ‘golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits.
2. Tim Howard: Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae.
Howard’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!
3. Jim Johnson: A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO.
Johnson’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
1. FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor.
2. TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama.
3. JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama’s Vice Presidential Search Committee.
Yea, Wall St crooks, terrorists, scammers, hate-filled ‘preachers’, anti-semitic friends, Hollywood perverts – just the types we need in Washington with Obama. I sure hope you libs are too drugged up to go vote Wednesday.
Posted by: Ken L | November 3, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Let’s see how many Dems actually join the military and put their life on the line for their leader Obama. Talk is cheap. Action speaks for itself! Democrats are more interested in what is in it for them and not what is in the benefit of the country. If Obama increases taxes the corporations then they will move to other countries and not pay dividends. I better you will be crying when your job moves overseas and your 401k decreases even more. You can blame yourselves for that one. I have no problem voting for an African-American president but he is not the one. He is a socialist with shady terrorist associations.
Posted by: Stacey | November 3, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Obama is a communist, Communist, COMMUNIST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: JR | November 3, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Seems like the MSM was scooped again, it seems the Times did not get the story from the Vast Right Wing as Sen. Clinton calls them.
It looks like just good old research by hardworking reporters to find Sen. Obama’s Aunt based on, wait for it, his book and references to his family in Kenya.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5068613.ece
Joe
Posted by: Joe | November 3, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Stacey
Couldn’t agree more. As a full time college student, I work 2 part time jobs, have no insurance and scrape by month to month.
I would be the perfect person to vote for Obama. But why can’t I? Because he is bad for my country.
I’d like a future that I can start my own business in, not one where I would become a slave to the high taxes of the liberal adgenda.
McCain has it right. COUNTRY FIRST.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Check this out. Once again the truth comes out in San Francisco.
http://www.wsaz.com/political/headlines/33726759.html
Posted by: Mensa Member | November 3, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
All you democraps out there who are telling tall tails (lying) about Republican candidates for office, are full of something brown and smelly. We all know this to be so, because when you speak, it comes dribbling out while your mouth is flapping. When you write, the paper comes out of the printer all brown and smelly. The garbage truck won’t even take the printouts away because they don’t handle raw sewage of any kind.
Don’t like what I just wrote? You democraps can’t tell the difference between a lie and the truth. You used to have some pretty decent people in your party, but something went wrong after JFK was elected president and assinated 1000 days later. Your ship of state is leaning so far to the left that water is coming in over the gunwales and your bilge pumps are plugged with all that brown stuff you generate.
I suppose there may be a better Republican candidate available somewhere for President than John McCain, but your democrap candidate for President, Barry Insane Nobama, is undoubtedly so much worse, that there are no words adequate enough to describe how much worse and how bad he will be for the country. Nobama’s policies and those of his supporters are so far to the left that the word “marxist” hardly describes Nobama and his unwashed rabid supporters.
It is difficult to believe that so many people eat up Nobamas mouthings. If he gets elected, I suppose that I can always say “I am not proud of this country anymore”, particularly if Nobamas wife can say similar things and this is quite allright according to the leftist media, which by the way have gone so far left that their advertising incomes are falling like the runs.
The democraps have been mouthing all this foul garbage ever since well before George W. Bush was elected twice as President. Herr Gobels, Hitlers Propaganda Minister was reported as saying “If you tell a lie enough times, (gullible) people will began to believe it” and he was correct. Herr Gobels would have been proud of the democrap party. McCain will probably win the election. If Nobama wins, after the erection we will all get screwed somehow.
Posted by: Russ | November 3, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Failin McCain still at it with lyin’ Palin. My cat is as qualified as Palin, not as whiny and infinitely more intelligent. She doesn’t even know how to listen. Betcha she is one of the right wingers who, upon hearing of the biblical character Bildad the shuhite, she automaticaly thinks the shuhite refers to his height and not his tribe. Of ten things she says, I do not believe eleven of them. She has been nothing but a royal embarassment to Alaskans, a pimple in America’s collective ass and such an insult to Republicans.
Posted by: iconico62 | November 3, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Christy – How many times have I head this. If you don’t trust Obama because you heard something that makes you scared it’s probably a lie put out by McCain and his so called campaign.
I trust Obama because I believe he is a much better choice and because this country is in some real trouble which was brought on by the very people who want McCain to win.
Obama never said the constitution was fundamentally flawed. If he said anything like that I am certain you have it out of context. If you are actually worried about the constitution it’s the Bush Republicans that have shredded some of it’s basic foundations.
You have had 8 years of lies and distortions while the elite redistribute the wealth and break the middle class. The truth is that McCain will continue this trend.
THis is why his only campaign strategy is to lie about Obama while claiming to be the candidate of change. McCain couldn’t even come up with a campaign direction because his campaign has always been about distraction and lies.
What the Republicans are calling a campaign is really a dangerous attempt to steal ideas for Obama and to make up lies that their rabid base then chants like a mad religious cult.
When people say they don’t like McCain but they are afraid of Obmam I say fine maybe you are more comfortable with at least 4 more years of the elite stealing the treasury, private contractors, torture, a broken middle class, more spying on Americans, Police State tactics, a justice department that favors the Republicans. Maybe this works for you.
Posted by: surgethis | November 3, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
Reminder to all presidential candidates: if you want to be president, don’t fight in the Vietnam War. You’ll get swiftboated or taken for some sort of fool. :)
Posted by: Sincoffa Mantione | November 3, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
iconico62 -
Sitting around talking to your cat will not get you far. Sulking about being less successful than a woman won’t either. I suggest you stop smoking dope and get a job, or better yet go get an education. Jealousy of someone smarter than you will not make you smarter.
Posted by: Ken L | November 3, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am
I was an obama voter until yesterday. he won’t release his birth certificate, so he won’t be getting my vote.
in another country, not this one
Posted by: guaglione | November 3, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
Kudos to all the Obama volunteers.I’m 30 but this is the 1st time ever I’ve been left a door notice to vote,my location, a # for a ride if needed and of course vote for Obama.Obama/Biden ’08/’12
Posted by: Didi | November 3, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
Too many rabid Regressive Republicans on this site. I have always marveled at their ability to just spew lies. Lies they don’t even know they are spreading because all they do is listen to one side and then repeat it.
THis is the kind of ignorance that got us in this mess. You want to know who is responsible for the economy, the war, the breakdown of our constitution and the criminality in Washington. It’s the Republicans, the religious fanatics, and their rabid base … that’s most of you people drooling on this blog.
Yes drooling and splattering what ever your leaders tell you to spit out. And because you have almost no clue about why your lives are meaningless their vile message give you someone to blame.
Because your marriage is a sham or why you your God hasn’t fixed you, or why you sent your children to die in Iraq in vein and waisted their beautiful lives.
So what do you do. Like always you find a religious cult or insane leader and you follow them. You build them up into huge stars and father/mother figures and then you marry them. They give you permission to hate the liberal or the gay or the terrorist and you have your marching orders.
It doesn’t matter what the facts are because you are insane with no real direction. One minute you like a person and the next they need to be burned at the stake. You flock to huge religious gatherings and say God Bless till your cheeks hurt and yet when it comes to walking the walk you are less like Jesus and more like a close minded hateful band of heathens.
The minute someone tells you who to hate you begin to salivate … all McCain/Palin have to do is put doubt in your heads and then fill it with fear and disgust and you eat it up like you are a new born suckling at your mothers breast.
I’ll tell you what. Obama is not perfect but he is the most amazing person to come along and want this damn job of helping this country. God knows why anybody would want it.
One thing I know for sure is this. If McCain really wanted to help the people in this country to grow and prosper then it would be reflected in his record. And he would not have a campaign that is all about trashing the other guy. It would be about hope and the future. But all that comes out of his mouth are platitudes and slogans.
It’s very sad. McCain just wants to be president so he can sit atop the pile with the elite and command and be in the office. He’ll say and do anything to get it including using those base of people who go through life with the blinders on while claiming they are the only ones who can see …
Posted by: suregthis | November 3, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
Nearly there! Just over a day until we vote the 8 Year Train Wreck out of office! YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Bye Bye BUSH, Bye Bye to a ‘Maverick’ who can’t even pick his own nose, much less a VP! Or a “Plumber”. Bye Bye Jack Boot Palin and the Campaign of Hate and Fear. HELLO to getting this country back on the right road and rebuilding our Nation and our National Standing. YES WE CAN! Oh, YES WE CAN. And Yes We WILL!
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
Today we had a HUGE get-out-vote effort going on in Nevada. It was amazing how many Democrats for McCain were part of the effort. What was more amazing was how angry they were at how Obama and the DNC treated Hillary. And I heard this ” I had no idea my (Democratic) party was doing this” – referring to how much change they now see with the liberal-leftist-socialist types running the show, and the one-sided media. Some were getting out of the Dem party and going to register Independent, which we all know is first step to…common sense and Republican ticket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ha,ha,ha.
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Posted by: suregthis | November 3, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
Russ…
Tax-breaks for the working middle-class is NOT socialism.
Repeating a lie until people believe it??
Interesting you’d mention that because your side has been repeatedly posting already-debunked misinformation on this thread.
Maybe you can see the irony, maybe you’re too far gone to be able to see anything objectively now.
I’m betting on the latter.
G’night.
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
Today we had a HUGE get-out-vote effort going on in Nevada. It was amazing how many Democrats for McCain were part of the effort. What was more amazing was how angry they were at how Obama and the DNC treated Hillary. And I heard this ” I had no idea my (Democratic) party was doing this” – referring to how much change they now see with the liberal-leftist-socialist types running the show, and the one-sided media. Some were getting out of the Dem party and going to register Independent, which we all know is first step to…common sense and Republican ticket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ha,ha,ha.
Posted by: proud GOP latina | November 3, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
And as the Sun Sets on the Bush Administration and the McSameFailin Farce – we say well to all the GOP dregs and there Fearmongering Hate filled Blogs …
“obama will never be my president and I ahve never said that about anybody. I will never hire another minority in my life. the EOE can g to hell.” Bye Bye Todd. And Bon Voyage?!——–”If the false prophet is elected hope will change to nope” Bye Bye Hippie Hater!———-”I was an obama voter until yesterday. he won’t release his birth certificate” Bye Bye to the terminally brain dead – that would be YOU, Guag. Fare well! “I’d like a future that I can start my own business in, not one where I would become a slave to the high taxes of the liberal adgenda ” Bye Bye to XD and the other Greedy Self Servers who only ever want to TAKE and never GIVE BACK and who don’t care about anybody but themselves and their grubby, greedy self-serving agendas. FARE THEE WELL. You are NOT the Majority. And that’s our greatest reward – REALISING that you are not the majority. Can we banish you back to the rocks you crawled out from under?? Just Watch Us. YES WE CAN. OBAMA 08!!
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am
The only people who “care” about the capital gains tax are spoiled nouveau riche brats who are cashing out their daddy’s trust funds.
Posted by: Fran Taylor | November 3, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
“Democrats for McCain”??!
Dude, you should become a script writer for the Daily Show. Democrats for McCain, seriously… LOL!!
I know ex-Republicans, I know high-profile Republicans who have defected but I don’t know of ONE democrat that would vote for the GOP after the last 8 years of hell they’ve inflicted upon everyone.
Maybe PUMA’s for McCain but no real democrat could bring themselves to inflict further misery on a nation that’s already suffering.
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
I just wanted to pass on a message to all the stupid, hateful, corrupt Republicans out there:
WORK HARDER! OBAMA DEMOCRATS ON WELFARE ARE COUNTING ON YOU!!!
Thanks for listening! Shortly the change to Socialist Fascism will be here. Certainly will be “change”, no? And good luck changing back once it is put in place….
Posted by: GunToter | November 3, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
I just wanted to pass on a message to all the stupid, hateful, corrupt Republicans out there:
WORK HARDER! OBAMA DEMOCRATS ON WELFARE ARE COUNTING ON YOU!!!
Thanks for listening! Shortly the change to Socialist Fascism will be here. Certainly will be “change”, no? And good luck changing back once it is put in place….
Posted by: GunToter | November 3, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
Fran at 2:57:
I know PUMAS that have been Dems ALL THEIR LIVES, and now they’re out there getting the vote for John McCain.
ha.
Posted by: proud GOP latina | November 3, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
Hey, all you empty headed, doobie sucking, low IQ, 20 something white Liberals who think you’re voting for a rock star. suck the big one. Because if you’re boy wins, you’ll be sucking the big black one.
Posted by: Karl La Fong | November 3, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
” I had no idea my (Democratic) party was doing this” ——–Goodbye to Lying and Deceitful GOP payrolled bloggers (and No, You’re not even Latino) — THE END IS NIGH … VOTE OBAMA 08 and TAKE AMERICA BACK!
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
Nobody needs to listen to lies or slanted viewpoints and misinformation from either campaign concerning the other party. Just go to their websites and read the published party platforms. Then listen to what the candidates themselves say when they speak to see who is telling the truth. Do your own research without listening to any pundits and make up your own mind. Do what is best for the country and all of our citizens. I plan to.
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Toby | November 3, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
Obama: Small head, big ears, small change.
Who would vote for a harbor seal with a walrus wife?
Shove Obama! Keep the change!
Posted by: Abuti Duh Duh Obongo | November 3, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
Posted by: Karl La Fong | Nov 3, 2008 3:03:36 AM
” I had no idea my (Democratic) party was doing this” ——–Goodbye to Lying and Deceitful GOP payrolled bloggers (and No, You’re not even Latino) — THE END IS NIGH … VOTE OBAMA 08 and TAKE AMERICA BACK!
Oh si, pendejo, si soy Latina, but first a Proud American- hard earned citizenship. And I ain’t standing around waiting to go softly into the night without fightin’ all you soft-bellied Kumbaya types. Oh, the lies, and the BIG MEDIA cover up! Yes, one thing you’re right on with is that “THE END IS NIGH” But you’re too stupid to see it, cause you have no first hand perspective of living under socialistic governmental rule.
Posted by: proud GOP latina | November 3, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
chester burns -
Are you trying to advertise how wacked out you can get by smoking the dope that you are selling. I’m sure there are some liberal scum Dems here that will buy that crap. Stock them up so they are dreaming of Osama and forget to vote for him on Wednesday.
Posted by: Carl Y | November 3, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
” Because if you’re boy wins, you’ll be sucking the big black one ” FareWell to KKKarl and GOP Base Pond Scum!! We wish you well and you struggle with your diminished sense of self-worth and find your way into the 21st Century. But for now, we have work to do … and Bid you a Fond Farewell and the best of luck for the future. We are Taking Back Our Country from these bottom feeders – YES WE CAN! Obama 08
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
” I had no idea my (Democratic) party was doing this” ——–Goodbye to Lying and Deceitful GOP payrolled bloggers (and No, You’re not even Latino) — THE END IS NIGH … VOTE OBAMA 08 and TAKE AMERICA BACK!
Posted by: chester burns
Mr Burns, you just exposed a BHO supporter trait. Nothing that comes from McCain supporters is truthful Even something as simple as a poster you don’t know claiming they are latino.
Thanks for showing for all to see.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
“Democrats for McCain”??!
Yes Fran Taylor
Democrats for Mccain
Posted by: BozwellII | November 3, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
I’m surprised that anyone in the MSM even decided this was news worthy…they’re all so obviously in the tank for Obama Hussein and Biden, even so they still manage to skew the article it in such a way that it complements Biden.
I’m not sure America has any real journalist left.
Posted by: Jean Pierre Antoine | November 3, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
Should Obama/Biden get elected on Tuesday, there’s only one slogan I can think of for this coming Wednesday morning:
WELCOME BACK CARTER!
Is Obama really about change, or simply about a return to the same old attempted social engineering of tax&spend liberal socialism that these ‘enlightened’ Democrats are so enamored with?
Posted by: JohnTheTruckDriver | November 3, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
You don’t like the Truth, do you Carl? Especially the Truth about yourself. Look in the mirror, Loser. Take it all in. Dead Beat. From Choice. That’s your issue, not mine. If I could help you, I would – but sometimes you’ve just got to stop blaming everyone else and fix yourself. We aren’t going to forget to Vote. I’ve already voted for Obama. You don’t like seeing people voting for change and moving forward – you’d like us all to be long term Losers like you. But we aren’t Carl. We just aren’t. Deal with it. And do some work on sorting yourself out. Clearly, you aren’t capable of helping to put the Country back in order. At least fix yourself.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
JohnTheTruckDriver
The only CHANGE Obama is for is to get a black man elected President. Because that would be the “cool” thing for Americans to have. And liberal social engineering is the #1 reason why our economy nearly melted down. Never forget that. And never let anyone tell you differently.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
Democrats for McCain
Here are just a few for you Fran
http://papundits.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/hillbuzz-obama-has-no-shot-of-winning-the-keystone-state/
http://www.democrats-against-obama.org/home.html
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2256460769
You know it’s too bad Hillary didn’t know about Obamas Aunt & Uncle when it could have done our party some good Fran…then again, nobody really knows much of anything about Obama…do they?
Posted by: Bozwell II | November 3, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
“Is Obama really about change, or simply about a return to the same old attempted social engineering of tax&spend liberal socialism that these ‘enlightened’ Democrats are so enamored with?” We’ll leave you to answer that one, Truck. We’ve done our homework – you should have done yours. It isn’t only Obama who is ‘about change’ – the ENTIRE Country is screaming for it. GOP Base never seems to notice when the winds of change are blowing all around them. The scariest thing about you Nut Jobs isn’t your Fear and Hate Mongering — it’s you complete inability to see what is happening right on your doorstep. Do we want 4 more years of the Bush Train Wreck? NO, Truck. There’s your answer. You sit and figure it out some more though, take your time. Tuesday 4 November, we elect a new President. Obama. Get with the program and catch up with the step – We are on the Move.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
“Is Obama really about change, or simply about a return to the same old attempted social engineering of tax&spend liberal socialism that these ‘enlightened’ Democrats are so enamored with?” We’ll leave you to answer that one, Truck. We’ve done our homework – you should have done yours. It isn’t only Obama who is ‘about change’ – the ENTIRE Country is screaming for it. GOP Base never seems to notice when the winds of change are blowing all around them. The scariest thing about you Nut Jobs isn’t your Fear and Hate Mongering — it’s you complete inability to see what is happening right on your doorstep. Do we want 4 more years of the Bush Train Wreck? NO, Truck. There’s your answer. You sit and figure it out some more though, take your time. Tuesday 4 November, we elect a new President. Obama. Get with the program and catch up with the step – We are on the Move.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
“but sometimes you’ve just got to stop blaming everyone else and fix yourself.”–chester burns
After reading that sentence, are you sure you are a BHO supporter? Because that one statement goes against everything that he stands for.
PS: your name calling shows how little of any symbolance of a valid point you have to make. Leave that part out and your paragraph shortens to about one line.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
chester -
Now your mad that you can’t take back your mistaken vote. At least your welfare check will go up if I decide to keep working.
Posted by: Carl Y | November 3, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
Oh Mylanta! This guy says: “You don’t like seeing people voting for change and moving forward..”
This is the sheer blindness to reality of such assumptions of Democrats is astounding: That “change” automatically means “moving forward”. They seriously do not have the slightest understanding that change can make things worse just as easily as it can make things better; that change can mean DEVOLUTION just as easily as it can mean EVOLUTION. The change Obama brings is not merely a movement forward, but movement backward, back to the days of LBJ and Carter adminstrations. The movement forward is simply to outdo them both in terms of how much socialism to bring in! There’s your change!
Sheesh…the lack of basic intellect with these “useful idiots” of ObaMessiah is astounding! It is so true: “You can’t fix stupid.”
Posted by: JohnTheTruckDriver | November 3, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am
Obama is really a voodoo reincarnation of Hitler.
Obama literally kills babies, but he only kills white babies… he does it with a machete that has “kill all crackers” written on the handle.
Obama taught Timothy McVeigh how to make bombs.
Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii, he was born on mars, if he wins he’ll weaken our borders allowing martians to attack.
If Obama wins, every church in America will be converted into a mosque.
Obama wants to take every cent you have and give it to homeless people, specifically black homeless people, but only the Muslim black homeless ones of course.
Obama forces white children to inject heroin and smoke crack.
Obama wants to teach 2 year olds about anal sex and bestiality.
Obama’s a communist/socialist/marxist/fascist/elitist all at the same time and don’t you say that’s contradictory, the english dictionary just has a radical leftist liberal slant!!
Obama has a pro-pedophile agenda, if elected he’ll put a pedophile in charge of every school.
Just thought I’d raise the bar for righteous-wing retardation. ;)
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am
Bozwell: Dems are voting OBAMA by the millions! We haven’t waited 8 long years to throw our vote away :) It’s the reverse Bradley you need to watch out for – all those GOP who are as sick of the Loud Mouth Foul Mouth Base as we are! Unlike us, these poor people have to eat dinner with these Loud Mouthed Hate Mongering fools. But, in the privacy of the Polling Booth? They get to pull the lever of their choice. They will Shut your lying mouth up on election day, Boz. Enjoy!
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am
“Obama forces white children to inject heroin and smoke crack.” I count another 10 votes for Obama right there. Proud of your GOP pal, Truck & Carl. There’s a thought – you guys pal around with Morons – does that mean you are…UnAmerican? mmm.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
Marxist Media Theory Daniel Chandler Herbert Marcuse, in One-Dimensional Man (1972), presented the media very pessimistically as an irresistible force:
The means of… communication…, the irresistible output of the entertainment and information industry carry with them prescribed attitudes and habits, certain intellectual and emotional reactions which bind the consumers… to the producers and, through the latter to the whole [social system]. The products indoctrinate and manipulate; they promote a false consciousness which is immune against its falsehood… Thus emerges a pattern of one-dimensional thought and behaviour. (Marcuse, cited in Bennett 1982: 43).
Posted by: rnh | November 3, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am
Marxist Media Theory Daniel Chandler Herbert Marcuse, in One-Dimensional Man (1972), presented the media very pessimistically as an irresistible force:
The means of… communication…, the irresistible output of the entertainment and information industry carry with them prescribed attitudes and habits, certain intellectual and emotional reactions which bind the consumers… to the producers and, through the latter to the whole [social system]. The products indoctrinate and manipulate; they promote a false consciousness which is immune against its falsehood… Thus emerges a pattern of one-dimensional thought and behaviour. (Marcuse, cited in Bennett 1982: 43).
Posted by: rnh | November 3, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am
m3th0d
Don’t forget to mention that whites dump their trash in the ghetto in the middle of the night, just to devalue properties and keep blacks down.
Don’t forget that white scientist invented AIDS to kill off minorities.
Don;t forget that McCain/Palin are using subliminal”code words” for blacks.
When it comes to gossipy fear mongering, whites are far behind our black brothers. Am I allowed to say that? I am voting for McCain, so I will now be called every “reverse code word” under the sun.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am
m3thOd -
Please spare us the details of your fantasies. Go back to smoking your crack and keep dreaming. Chester has more if you need it.
Posted by: Carl Y | November 3, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
Carl Y writes me:
“Tuesday 4 November, we elect a new President. Obama. Get with the program and catch up with the step – We are on the Move.”
Do you have any clue of this Fascist spirit so incipient in your liberal socialist movement? If not, just read what I quoted from you above. “Get with the program?” Are you for real? What do I say in reply? Thankyou Adolph? Zieg Heil? The fascist spirit behind such words is so telling…which is why if by chance McCain were to pull the upset on the Electoral College level, that fascist spirit will inspire all of you Hitler Youth to riot…something which freedom-loving Republicans would never
do, and have never done..Heck, the closest to that would be like when Republicans marched with Martin Luther King Jr….And then, it would be the Southern Dem’s who would beat us up.
Posted by: JohnTheTruckDriver | November 3, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Go to HillBuzzwordpress.com and hear what Obama is all about from a former Obama campaigner. Lies and deceit at all costs to win. This is a Democratic site!
I am from Chicago, Florida doesn’t know anything about Obama’s background except what he allows his campaign and media to allow. Even the headlines in yesterdays Chicago Sun Times brought up more investigations into the Chicago gang that Obama knows so well, Rezco, Mayor Daley, etc. You see at these rallies what they want you to see…. Vote him in…you will see in due time what we know here
Posted by: Phyllis | November 3, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am
To “teacher” who said she is retiring soon and is so glad that Bush wasn’t allowed to privatize Social Security.
Perhaps it’s long past the time you should retire, if you teach like you think and write. Bush NEVER wanted to privatize Social Security. He wanted
to allow younger people (not you) to take a PORTION of their S.S. and invest it privately. They wouldn’t HAVE TO, it would just be an option for them.
That’s the truth, but apparently the truth is not what you taught your kids so please retire already!
Posted by: FuzzyWuzzy | November 3, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am
Oops! Sorry Carl (whoever you are)…I should have named “Chester Burns” in front of that quote. Sorry for the insult of calling you that name (lol)…
Oh, I’m so hateful…Can’t help it..I’m Barry Goldwater’s grandson….
Posted by: JohnTheTruckDriver | November 3, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
And never let anyone tell you differently.
Posted by: Springfield XD45
Yeah, listen to Springfield! It’s important to cling to what you believe, even in the face of science, verified sources, or direct evidence! Reality has a liberal bias, so shut your eyes! Plug your ears!
The Earth is only 4000 years old! Don’t let anyone tell you different! Bill Clinton didn’t balance the budget or put the country in the black! Reagan did, but the MSM suppressed it for over ten years! Think with your GUT, not your brains, and don’t let anyone convince you otherwise!
Posted by: Timely? | November 3, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am
This is rich. The very party that elevated protesting to an art form belittles those who return the favor.
Posted by: Get Real | November 3, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
I guess the BHO campaign will now freeze out the entire state of Florida. Kinda like they did with Barbara West and her TV station in, where else, Florida. Add that to the 3 pro-McCain reporters getting booted off BHO’s plane and you have a preview of the freedom of speech suppression of the former USSR.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
This is rich. The very party that elevated protesting to an art form belittles those who return the favor.
Posted by: Get Real
“They’re good folks,” Biden said of his noisy opponents.
You’re right, Get Real. Biden really shouldn’t have belittled them like that.
Posted by: Timely? | November 3, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am
“Yeah, listen to Springfield! It’s important to cling to what you believe, even in the face of science, verified sources, or direct evidence!”–timely
Mandating that people are giving homes that they cannot afford is not a conservative effort. Sorry it just isn’t.
Since conservatives cling to the religion and guns in times of crisis, what do liberals cling to. False hope? Empty promises? Drugs? Homosexuals would be my guess.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
“Mandating that people are giving homes that they cannot afford is not a conservative effort. Sorry it just isn’t.”
Probably McCain shouldn’t be offering to buy up everyone’s mortgages, then.
“Since conservatives cling to the religion and guns in times of crisis, what do liberals cling to. False hope? Empty promises? Drugs? Homosexuals would be my guess.”
Your guesses don’t interest me. The *guesses* of conservatives are usually disastrous– like the guess that trickle-down economics would enrich the whole nation, or the guess that invading another countries will make them like us.
Posted by: Timely? | November 3, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am
October 31, 2008
EXCLUSIVE: Dance Troupe @ Obama-Khalidi Dinner (of Secreted Tape Fame) Simulated Beheadings in Recent Past
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By Debbie Schlussel
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As you all know, the Los Angeles Times is holding hostage a tape of Barack Obama at a 2003 Arab American Action Network (AAAN) dinner at which his friends, Rashid Khalidi, William Ayers, and Bernadine Dohrn were in attendance. It’s the story I started when Los Angeles Times plagiarist/”reporter” Peter Wallsten ripped off my January column on Barack Obama’s Nation of Islam staffers and friendship with AAAN founder Ali Abunimah.
But here’s what you haven’t yet heard: that a kids’ dance troupe that appeared at the event has a history of simulating beheadings and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags.
Sanabel AlQuds Dance Troupe with Sword Beheading Accessories
Reports of the partial guest list at the 2003 dinner include “the Sanabel Debka troupe”, but the group’s name is really “Sanabel AlQuds Dabka troupe.” Sanabel means “grains” or “kernels” (of wheat or barley) in Arabic. AlQuds, or “The Holy”, is the Muslim name for Jerusalem, which is ripped-off from the eternal Hebrew name for Jerusalem, “Ir Kadosh”, or Holy City.
The Milwaukee-based Muslim kids dancing troupe purports to perform the debka, a Middle-Eastern step-dance. But this group, made up of mostly Palestinian Muslims and under the auspices of the Milwaukee Muslim American Society does far more in its “performance.” And it’s frightening.
In June 2004, I went undercover and attended a Dearborn fundraising dinner for Islamic Relief, the Muslim Brotherhood charity that is a front for HAMAS and Al-Qaeda. The event was MC’ed by Rayed Tayeh, who orchestrated the Starbucks Coffee boycott and who is believed to be a HAMAS operative.
Sanabel AlQuds performed to songs calling for martyrdom to “get back Palestine.” The kids were young boys, some of them appearing to be no older than seven years old.
But they didn’t just dance the debkah.
Suddenly the Sanabel AlQuds dancers pulled out fake swords and rifles and adorned three of their troupe respectively with an American, Isreaeli, and British flag. The others pretended to behead and/or shoot the boys wearing the flags. Then they put red scarves over the three boys heads, signifying blood and no head. Then, the flags were taken off, thrown to the ground, and trampled on by this young group of Milwaukee dancers.
This was on the Sunday that U.S. contractor Paul Johnson was found beheaded in Saudi Arabia and not long after Nicholas Berg and several other westerners were found beheaded in Iraq.
Once I saw this “performance” I realized why there were signs all over saying, “No video equipment or cameras allowed.”
I wrote about this in 2004 in my review of “Fahrenheit 9/11″, because it featured Obama surrogate John Conyers who was at the Sanabel AlQuds performance and just loved it:
Take the June 13 Muslim American Society fundraising dinner for Islamic Relief, a charity with links to the Muslim Brotherhood. Conyers and his wife were the guests of honor. They watched and clapped as the Sanabel AlQuds “dancing” troop from Milwaukee–featuring boys as young as seven–sang in Arabic of martyrdom and jihad for Allah and Palestine. They didn’t need to understand Arabic, as the young boys used a rifle to simulate killing and pistol-whipping, simulated throat-slittings and beheadings, and dishonored the American flag.
Some pictures of Sanabel AlQuds Dabka troupe hint at some of this and show the kids dancing with swords (see above).
I also wrote about it in August 2006, because I’m sick and tired of the tens of millions the Mormon Church, the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints, has been giving this group, Islamic Relief:
The evening’s “entertainment” consisted of young boys–some apparently as young as seven–simulating beheadings and shootings of other young boys who donned the American, Israeli, and British flags. Then they put red scarves over their heads to symbolize blood . . . and no head.
While I do not know if Sanabel AlQuds performed this particular “dance” for Barack and Michelle Obama and other guests at this dinner, I know that this was their performance in the summer of 2004, just a year after the dinner that is the subject of the videotape the Los Angeles Times will not release. It may be that this same “act” was performed for the Obamas, but that it was not part of the tape, which would be why L.A. Times plagiarist/”reporter” Peter Wallsten did not write about it.
Still, why is Barack Obama hanging out with young kids who simulate beheadings of Americans and Jews on a regular basis?
Maybe they can perform their unique, halal version of the debka at an Inaugural Ball. I’m sure the Secret Service would make an allowance for the swords . . . for the sake of political correctness.
Posted by Debbie at October 31, 2008 12:39 PM
Posted by: Lynn | November 3, 2008, 4:19 am 4:19 am
October 31, 2008
EXCLUSIVE: Dance Troupe @ Obama-Khalidi Dinner (of Secreted Tape Fame) Simulated Beheadings in Recent Past
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By Debbie Schlussel
**** Copyright 2008. Must cite Debbie Schlussel and link to DebbieSchlussel.com ****
As you all know, the Los Angeles Times is holding hostage a tape of Barack Obama at a 2003 Arab American Action Network (AAAN) dinner at which his friends, Rashid Khalidi, William Ayers, and Bernadine Dohrn were in attendance. It’s the story I started when Los Angeles Times plagiarist/”reporter” Peter Wallsten ripped off my January column on Barack Obama’s Nation of Islam staffers and friendship with AAAN founder Ali Abunimah.
But here’s what you haven’t yet heard: that a kids’ dance troupe that appeared at the event has a history of simulating beheadings and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags.
Sanabel AlQuds Dance Troupe with Sword Beheading Accessories
Reports of the partial guest list at the 2003 dinner include “the Sanabel Debka troupe”, but the group’s name is really “Sanabel AlQuds Dabka troupe.” Sanabel means “grains” or “kernels” (of wheat or barley) in Arabic. AlQuds, or “The Holy”, is the Muslim name for Jerusalem, which is ripped-off from the eternal Hebrew name for Jerusalem, “Ir Kadosh”, or Holy City.
The Milwaukee-based Muslim kids dancing troupe purports to perform the debka, a Middle-Eastern step-dance. But this group, made up of mostly Palestinian Muslims and under the auspices of the Milwaukee Muslim American Society does far more in its “performance.” And it’s frightening.
In June 2004, I went undercover and attended a Dearborn fundraising dinner for Islamic Relief, the Muslim Brotherhood charity that is a front for HAMAS and Al-Qaeda. The event was MC’ed by Rayed Tayeh, who orchestrated the Starbucks Coffee boycott and who is believed to be a HAMAS operative.
Sanabel AlQuds performed to songs calling for martyrdom to “get back Palestine.” The kids were young boys, some of them appearing to be no older than seven years old.
But they didn’t just dance the debkah.
Suddenly the Sanabel AlQuds dancers pulled out fake swords and rifles and adorned three of their troupe respectively with an American, Isreaeli, and British flag. The others pretended to behead and/or shoot the boys wearing the flags. Then they put red scarves over the three boys heads, signifying blood and no head. Then, the flags were taken off, thrown to the ground, and trampled on by this young group of Milwaukee dancers.
This was on the Sunday that U.S. contractor Paul Johnson was found beheaded in Saudi Arabia and not long after Nicholas Berg and several other westerners were found beheaded in Iraq.
Once I saw this “performance” I realized why there were signs all over saying, “No video equipment or cameras allowed.”
I wrote about this in 2004 in my review of “Fahrenheit 9/11″, because it featured Obama surrogate John Conyers who was at the Sanabel AlQuds performance and just loved it:
Take the June 13 Muslim American Society fundraising dinner for Islamic Relief, a charity with links to the Muslim Brotherhood. Conyers and his wife were the guests of honor. They watched and clapped as the Sanabel AlQuds “dancing” troop from Milwaukee–featuring boys as young as seven–sang in Arabic of martyrdom and jihad for Allah and Palestine. They didn’t need to understand Arabic, as the young boys used a rifle to simulate killing and pistol-whipping, simulated throat-slittings and beheadings, and dishonored the American flag.
Some pictures of Sanabel AlQuds Dabka troupe hint at some of this and show the kids dancing with swords (see above).
I also wrote about it in August 2006, because I’m sick and tired of the tens of millions the Mormon Church, the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints, has been giving this group, Islamic Relief:
The evening’s “entertainment” consisted of young boys–some apparently as young as seven–simulating beheadings and shootings of other young boys who donned the American, Israeli, and British flags. Then they put red scarves over their heads to symbolize blood . . . and no head.
While I do not know if Sanabel AlQuds performed this particular “dance” for Barack and Michelle Obama and other guests at this dinner, I know that this was their performance in the summer of 2004, just a year after the dinner that is the subject of the videotape the Los Angeles Times will not release. It may be that this same “act” was performed for the Obamas, but that it was not part of the tape, which would be why L.A. Times plagiarist/”reporter” Peter Wallsten did not write about it.
Still, why is Barack Obama hanging out with young kids who simulate beheadings of Americans and Jews on a regular basis?
Maybe they can perform their unique, halal version of the debka at an Inaugural Ball. I’m sure the Secret Service would make an allowance for the swords . . . for the sake of political correctness.
Posted by Debbie at October 31, 2008 12:39 PM
Posted by: Lynn | November 3, 2008, 4:19 am 4:19 am
No more bush. No more trickle trickle.No more neocon crap. These few religious nuts will have to live with that.
Posted by: aeskylos | November 3, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
hecklers, negative Ads, and the like just encourage people to vote against the republicans. wondering what the education level is of these hecklers, their annual income, their average age, what kind of work they do. would be interesting to know these things.
Posted by: Lawrence | November 3, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
Timely?
Trickle down economics are better everday of the week than the bottom up poverty that BHO wants.
“Probably McCain shouldn’t be offering to buy up everyone’s mortgages, then.” Someone has to fix the disaster that the Democratic Community Reinvestment Act caused.
Why don’t you ask a Iraq War veteran how the Iraqi people feel about American troops? I have asked plenty and they all say the same thing. “They love us.” Not necessarily our politics, but the opprotunities we have given them.
If BHO gets elected, the Iraqis will have more opprotunities for future growth than their liberators, ie the US taxpayer.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
Just unearth vidoe….obama stating he is going to purposely bankrupt coalminers and coal plants which will kill Ohio, Pennsylvannia, Virginia and others economies……and purposely jack up electricity charges…..No one will be able to afford to heat their homes. Stop Obama now…..
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-well-bankrupt-any-new-coal-plants/
Posted by: chattyway | November 3, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
Sorry Timely I didn’t see your post and you posted just ahead of me… we must be reading the same things….
Please NObama vote McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Lynn | November 3, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am
Sorry Timely I didn’t see your post and you posted just ahead of me… we must be reading the same things….
Please NObama vote McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Lynn | November 3, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am
Just unearth video….obama stating he is purposely going to drive coal miners out of business destroying thousands of jobs in OHio, Penn. Virginia and other places and JACK UP ELECTRICITY PRICES FOR EVERYONE. Obama snagged trying to destroy America…………….
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-well-bankrupt-any-new-coal-plants/
Posted by: chattyway | November 3, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am
you have a moral obligation to be informed.
an interesting read on Black Liberation Theology:
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/jon/080219
Posted by: rnh | November 3, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am
Sorry Timely I didn’t see your post and you posted just ahead of me… we must be reading the same things….
Please NObama vote McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Lynn | November 3, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am
October 31, 2008
EXCLUSIVE: Dance Troupe @ Obama-Khalidi Dinner (of Secreted Tape Fame) Simulated Beheadings in Recent Past
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By Debbie Schlussel
**** Copyright 2008. Must cite Debbie Schlussel and link to DebbieSchlussel.com ****
As you all know, the Los Angeles Times is holding hostage a tape of Barack Obama at a 2003 Arab American Action Network (AAAN) dinner at which his friends, Rashid Khalidi, William Ayers, and Bernadine Dohrn were in attendance. It’s the story I started when Los Angeles Times plagiarist/”reporter” Peter Wallsten ripped off my January column on Barack Obama’s Nation of Islam staffers and friendship with AAAN founder Ali Abunimah.
But here’s what you haven’t yet heard: that a kids’ dance troupe that appeared at the event has a history of simulating beheadings and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags.
Sanabel AlQuds Dance Troupe with Sword Beheading Accessories
Reports of the partial guest list at the 2003 dinner include “the Sanabel Debka troupe”, but the group’s name is really “Sanabel AlQuds Dabka troupe.” Sanabel means “grains” or “kernels” (of wheat or barley) in Arabic. AlQuds, or “The Holy”, is the Muslim name for Jerusalem, which is ripped-off from the eternal Hebrew name for Jerusalem, “Ir Kadosh”, or Holy City.
The Milwaukee-based Muslim kids dancing troupe purports to perform the debka, a Middle-Eastern step-dance. But this group, made up of mostly Palestinian Muslims and under the auspices of the Milwaukee Muslim American Society does far more in its “performance.” And it’s frightening.
In June 2004, I went undercover and attended a Dearborn fundraising dinner for Islamic Relief, the Muslim Brotherhood charity that is a front for HAMAS and Al-Qaeda. The event was MC’ed by Rayed Tayeh, who orchestrated the Starbucks Coffee boycott and who is believed to be a HAMAS operative.
Sanabel AlQuds performed to songs calling for martyrdom to “get back Palestine.” The kids were young boys, some of them appearing to be no older than seven years old.
But they didn’t just dance the debkah.
Suddenly the Sanabel AlQuds dancers pulled out fake swords and rifles and adorned three of their troupe respectively with an American, Isreaeli, and British flag. The others pretended to behead and/or shoot the boys wearing the flags. Then they put red scarves over the three boys heads, signifying blood and no head. Then, the flags were taken off, thrown to the ground, and trampled on by this young group of Milwaukee dancers.
This was on the Sunday that U.S. contractor Paul Johnson was found beheaded in Saudi Arabia and not long after Nicholas Berg and several other westerners were found beheaded in Iraq.
Once I saw this “performance” I realized why there were signs all over saying, “No video equipment or cameras allowed.”
I wrote about this in 2004 in my review of “Fahrenheit 9/11″, because it featured Obama surrogate John Conyers who was at the Sanabel AlQuds performance and just loved it:
Take the June 13 Muslim American Society fundraising dinner for Islamic Relief, a charity with links to the Muslim Brotherhood. Conyers and his wife were the guests of honor. They watched and clapped as the Sanabel AlQuds “dancing” troop from Milwaukee–featuring boys as young as seven–sang in Arabic of martyrdom and jihad for Allah and Palestine. They didn’t need to understand Arabic, as the young boys used a rifle to simulate killing and pistol-whipping, simulated throat-slittings and beheadings, and dishonored the American flag.
Some pictures of Sanabel AlQuds Dabka troupe hint at some of this and show the kids dancing with swords (see above).
I also wrote about it in August 2006, because I’m sick and tired of the tens of millions the Mormon Church, the Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints, has been giving this group, Islamic Relief:
The evening’s “entertainment” consisted of young boys–some apparently as young as seven–simulating beheadings and shootings of other young boys who donned the American, Israeli, and British flags. Then they put red scarves over their heads to symbolize blood . . . and no head.
While I do not know if Sanabel AlQuds performed this particular “dance” for Barack and Michelle Obama and other guests at this dinner, I know that this was their performance in the summer of 2004, just a year after the dinner that is the subject of the videotape the Los Angeles Times will not release. It may be that this same “act” was performed for the Obamas, but that it was not part of the tape, which would be why L.A. Times plagiarist/”reporter” Peter Wallsten did not write about it.
Still, why is Barack Obama hanging out with young kids who simulate beheadings of Americans and Jews on a regular basis?
Maybe they can perform their unique, halal version of the debka at an Inaugural Ball. I’m sure the Secret Service would make an allowance for the swords . . . for the sake of political correctness.
Posted by Debbie at October 31, 2008 12:39 PM
Posted by: Lynn | November 3, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am
“Spread the wealth” socialism does not and will not work. Disarming the citizens will not make the country safer. The historical facts regarding Hitler (a socialist) Stalin (a socialist) Pol Pot (a socialist) and others testify to the bloodbaths of 10′s of millions of people who died when these leaders came to power. Check this out:
http://objllc.com/USSA.htm
Posted by: Michael | November 3, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am
“Trickle down economics are better everday of the week than the bottom up poverty that BHO wants.”
Unless, of course, you want a day of the week where the USA isn’t sinking deeper into debt. I’m staggered that you believe a return to the tax numbers we had under the Clinton administration is ‘bottom up poverty.’ The ‘socialist’ tax increase on incomes of $250,000+ is a whopping +3%. The same rate we had ten years ago, when we weren’t doubling our debt.
“Someone has to fix the disaster that the Democratic Community Reinvestment Act caused.”
The CRA isn’t the magic bullet. A lot is being blamed on the CRA, but actually occurred because the Housing and Urban Development and Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight under the Bush administration allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to fulfill their affordable housing goals by buying subprime mortgage-backed securities. When those securities tanked, it was every bit as damaging as anything being laid at the feet of CRA.
“Why don’t you ask a Iraq War veteran how the Iraqi people feel about American troops? I have asked plenty and they all say the same thing. “They love us.” Not necessarily our politics, but the opprotunities we have given them.”
While anecdotal evidence is interesting, I prefer actual facts. In the Iraq Opinion Poll of March 2008, 56% of Iraqi citizens said they feel that the situation in their country remains dire and there is little hope for improvement. More Iraqis blame the US military as the main cause of the deteriorated security situation than any other cause.
Sorry for the long post. It may be a tl;dr situation but I figured I’d actually try to respond factually and not just with buzz words.
Posted by: Timely? | November 3, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am
has mccain said anything about how he would be different than bush and his policies over the last 8 years? no…just attacks on obama. that speaks volumes. if mccain had any ideas, he would have shared them by now. as a republican, I’m ashamed of the negativity in all of his ads.
Posted by: john bolteres | November 3, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am
“Spread the wealth” socialism does not and will not work.
Posted by: Michael
Perhaps not, but then again that’s not what is actually being proposed. I hate to dose you with reality, but the fact is, in 1980 we had a $1 trillion debt. Now we have a $10 trillion debt. Since 1980, there has only been one administration that reduced our debt, and it was a democratic administration. That’s a fact.
You live under the delusion that it’s democrats that have ruined our economy, but the facts just aren’t there. I’m sorry, but the republican party is NOT fiscally conservative.
Posted by: Timely? | November 3, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am
Don’t let the Obamabots lie anymore to you….Obama in his own words is going to purposely bankrupt the coal industry putting thousands of blue collar workers out of business, making us more dependent on terrorist oil in the Middle East, and jacking up everyone’s electrical prices causing elderly to freeze along with other families and forcing even more business out of business. Stop Obama now before it is to late…..stop him from putting all of these people out of work. Listen to him in his own words:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-well-bankrupt-any-new-coal-plants/
Posted by: chattyway | November 3, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am
Anyone else sick of hearing the words notions and folks? Since when did people become folks? I know where Obama’s words Hoodwinked and Bamboozled came from. Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader told his church that is what “typical white” people will try to do to them.
Posted by: tiredofit | November 3, 2008, 4:58 am 4:58 am
The latest smear regarding dancers from Sanebel Al Quds dance troup.
Debbie.. are you Debbie Schlussel, the already discredited right-wing blogger?
The same Debbie Schlussel that admits she was NOT at the same event as Obama, so we can’t say he even saw anything like this.
Are you the same Debbie that pictures!!
But they are not from Milwaukee and they do NOT show the troupe doing a beheading skit – just a sword dance which is commonplace in quite a few cultures.
Please tell me your that Debbie!!! :)
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 5:04 am 5:04 am
During the primary Obama said that Hillary’s supporters would support him if he won, but if he lost, his supporters would not support her. Now I have to ask, how was he being a uniter of the party with that statement? Michelle, when asked if she would support Hillary if Obama lost said, “I don’t know”. On the other hand Hillary always said she would support Obama. How can anyone believe Obama is a uniter and going to be good for our country when he was willing to tear the Dem party apart if he lost?
Posted by: tiredofit | November 3, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am
tiredofit
Personally I’m tired of hearing BHO supporters use “taken out of context.” When is one thing BHO has done in the past going to be “taken at face value.”
If he gets elected we can get used to hearing “taken out of context,” “that smells fishy,” “talk radio hate speech,” etc…
Nothing BHO does is his fault or of his own doing. Much like elementary school children.
Posted by: Springfield XD45 | November 3, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am
Biden is a loser. Obama has no clue how he got there.
Posted by: WIlly | November 3, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am
Obama’s words regarding new coal plants: “So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted”. How many jobs will be lost in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Wyoming and Indiana if Obama becomes president? How much will we be paying for electricity if Obama reduces the amount of coal we produce? How much more will we be forced to pay for the coal that is IMPORTED from AFRICA if Obama is president? The church Obama attended for 20 years has a NON-negotiable commitment to AFRICA. Could he be planning on building Africa’s economy by forcing America to import more and pay more for coal from them that we could have mined here?
Posted by: tiredofit | November 3, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
Oh, okay, that’s the turning point for me… 120,000 coal jobs lost.
Sorry, but enough is enough!!
I can’t believe he said what he said.
It’s so disgusting I’m going to tell Barack HUSSEIN Obama to shove those 5 million green energy jobs up his a$$.
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
you have a moral obligation to be informed.
an interesting read on Black Liberation Theology:
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/jon/080219
Marxist Media Theory Daniel Chandler Herbert Marcuse, in One-Dimensional Man (1972), presented the media very pessimistically as an irresistible force:
The means of… communication…, the irresistible output of the entertainment and information industry carry with them prescribed attitudes and habits, certain intellectual and emotional reactions which bind the consumers… to the producers and, through the latter to the whole [social system]. The products indoctrinate and manipulate; they promote a false consciousness which is immune against its falsehood… Thus emerges a pattern of one-dimensional thought and behaviour. (Marcuse, cited in Bennett 1982: 43).
Posted by: rnh | November 3, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am
Feel like eating more Tums ObamaBots? A little queazy because of your faith in your messiah? The truth about your charlatan has come out, even with most of our media in the bag for these totalitarian ideals. Hopefully, when McCain/Palin win this Tuesday, You people who TRULY believe in the Communist Manefesto will GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
Posted by: Conservo | November 3, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
I just have to crack when I read dems complaining about republicans are divisive and mean. You dems are the most hate-filled people I have ever met and know.
Hiden Biden said it best, Obama is not ready to be pres.
Obama wants to put the coal business in the ground-what a idiot
now you losers are saying joe the plumber beats his wife-losers. make up stuff much?Obama asked him the question you moonbats.
Posted by: frances | November 3, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am
I just have to crack when I read dems complaining about republicans are divisive and mean. You dems are the most hate-filled people I have ever met and know.
Hiden Biden said it best, Obama is not ready to be pres.
Obama wants to put the coal business in the ground-what a idiot
now you losers are saying joe the plumber beats his wife-losers. make up stuff much?Obama asked him the question you moonbats.
Posted by: frances | November 3, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am
Virtue does not come from wealth, but. . . wealth, and every other good thing which men have. . . comes from virtue. –Socrates
Posted by: Laura | November 3, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am
I’ve been a registered/voting Republican for forty years. After reading these comments, I wonder why.
I’ll be voting for Obama/Biden this time around.
Posted by: Old Republican | November 3, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am
THE TOXIC REPUBLICAN PARTY
The G.O.P. is at the culmination of its long transformation into a haven for racists and reactionaries. The G.O.P.’s transformation into the party of the ‘unreasonable, intolerant right’ is likely to accelerate as a result of the impending 2008 election defeat. This will pose a dilemma for any remaining moderates, many of whom
have spent the Bush years in denial about the dishonesty and contempt for the rule of law. That denial has been maintained through this year’s election season even with the McCain-Palin tactics growing ever uglier. But one of these days the small remnant left of honorable, old-style conservative Republicans will realize that the G.O.P. is now no longer their home. It is the home of the German-style brown shirt, filled with resentment, paranoia, and hatred of anything progressive.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/opinion/03krugman.html?partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
Posted by: steve_detroit | November 3, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am
timely- yes he has, you are not paying attention, your eyes are glazed over watching your chosen one. but what McCain has never said that he will put hundrends of thousands of people out of work.
Now all you Obama supporters-get a life and a job. now Joe the plumber has death threats against him from Obama supporters. OBAMA asked him the question. Obama’s aunt living in the slumbs illegally-Obama says he didn’t know, he says that a lot. Ayers, Wright, Khalidi, Rezko. What does Obama know? is he just stupid or what?
Posted by: frances | November 3, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am
I have been a registered for 60+ years and Obama has destroyed my party. I wll be voting for McCain/Palin for obvious reasons.
Posted by: Old Democrat | November 3, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am
Old Democrat: Will this be your first time to vote? Sorry to see you get off on the wrong foot.
Posted by: Old Republican | November 3, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am
To Matteroffacts |
Again, you are an imbecile. Drinking the Kool-Aid refers to the Jim Jones cult and it’s followers and not race. But you being the typical ignorant and obscene, argument-lacking Liberal, when obscenities do not work anymore, you accuse people of racism. Next you will call me a Nazi.
Posted by: joan cohen | November 3, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
Old Democrat: Unbelievable. Really.
Posted by: chester burns | November 3, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
Dave, what kind of a moronic, lying brown shirt are you. Evety single thing you put in your post is the product of a lying, demented brain that has lost touch with any and all reality, filled as you are with your toxic, reactionary, lie-driven hate. You can’t even tell the truth about the people you don’t agree with. I hope you reactionary bigots on the right get the drubbing you deserve at the polls..Trouble is, you won’t do any soul searching about why the majority of the American public thinks you and your Bush-loving McCainites have betrayed this country with the mess you see all around us…you won’t do any soul searching…you will just blame your defeat on ‘liberals’ and call them enemies of America, blah, blah blah.
If you people want civil war, you will find there are those who oppose you who will tell you to buzz off with your cheap, fairytale paranoia and threats, creeps.. You guys are simply brownshirts disguised as ‘conservatives’. You’re not conservative, you guys are reactionaries. And intensely dislike you too, those of us whom you despise despise you back.
We’re not impressed, intimidated or cowed by your violence-prone intolerance. You think you are big and bad…You’ll find out you’re not.
Posted by: GOPpartyofmorons | November 3, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am
Boy, Joe Biden sounds like a divider, not a uniter. And judging from how the Obama supporters have done exactly what they’ve claimed Bush did using the Patriot Act…
Posted by: Thomas | November 3, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am
To Joancohen|
Watch who you are calling ‘an imbecile.
Drinking the Kool-Aid refers to religious fanatics like you phony-evangelical neocons who follow your right wing leaders like the Jim Jones cultist followed their mass-murderer ‘messiah’. You are sheep and followers of reationary paranoia and self-righteous hypocrisy, you on the right. You and your policies have brought America down into bankruptcy, decay and corruption.YOU, GW BUSH and your Republican Congress, NOT Bill Clinton, not liberals, made this mess. You guys are lying blame-shifters who can’t admit your own guilt but try to project it onto others who were out of power when YOU made this mess between 2000 and 2008. Yes, even for the last two years Congress is still stymied by Bush vetoes and his veto-sustaining-monkeys among cons in the Senate. But you liars and slanderers continue to try to pin your own failures onto the Democrats. But you being the typical ignorant and obscene, argument-lacking CONS when lies and truth twisting and blameshifting don’t work, anymore, you accuse everyone who disagrees with your fanaticism of being “anti-American socialist” …you people are too ignorant to even know a socialist if you saw one. If you are accused of racism and bigotry it is because the accusation is true and you are. Yes, you are right, next I WILL call you a Nazi. You guys are text book fascists. Look up fascism and try it on for size as you don your brown shirt to go out liberal bashing.
Posted by: joe-weaselbacker_is_a_con_artitst_and_a_wifebeater | November 3, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am
I really doubt if either candidate would like to read these comments from people who “support” them.
Posted by: Old Republican | November 3, 2008, 6:48 am 6:48 am
“old Republican”: Answer to your question (if candidates would like to read the nasty comments of those who support them)…My answer is ‘sure they would.’ John McCain and Sarah Palin (much more than Obama and Biden) fall behind nobody in the nastiness and scurrilous, low-down nature of their accusations against Barack Obama. I don’t see why liberal “supporters” as you call them, don’t have the right to ‘return fire.’ The hate on both sides is growing and I fear civil war the way things are going. It is rapidly passing from debate to divisiveness to hate filled rhetoric…and John McCain and Sarah Palin and Rudolph Giuliani and a host of right wingers are out here spewing downright hatred toward Obama..but I guess you just want the Democrat grass roots out here to just lie down and let these ‘kill him’ right wingers have their way? Is that what you dislike? Only the Democrats’ giving it back? That is only wrong for the left but OK for the right?
Posted by: allen_osuno1 | November 3, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am
Biden doesn’t like the freedom to disagree politically? Not surprised, not surprised at all.
Posted by: Bluegurl | November 3, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
Obama will take your money and give you back some CHANGE!!
Just remember libs when Obama has destroyed this country.
Posted by: James Anderson | November 3, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
See the photos at the end of the rally for youself at:
http://tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=CD&Dato=20081103&Kategori=PHOTOS03&Lopenr=811030801&Ref=PH
Posted by: Anon | November 3, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
Too bad the campaign is about to end. The longer we wait, the more we (finally!) learn about Obama. It’s beyond me how anyone can vote for a presidential candidate whose claim to fame is being a disruptive community activist and a short term senator who is greatly unappreciated by a majority of citizens from his own state of Illinois. We know he is guilty of the following: wants to bankrupt the coal industry; wants to change the Constitution of the United States; wants to take over our 401K’s; wants to ‘change’ the welfare programs already in place; wants to give social security to illegals…including his aunt, no doubt; wants to rid his campaign of news writers who don’t support him; wants to refuse interviews with broadcasters who ask the wrong questions; wants to ‘change’ the world; wants to increase our taxes; wants to reduce military spending by 25%; wants to make those who disagree with him feel guilty; wants to be associated with and be like questionable people such as Aryes, Wright, Ferrican; wants to abandon Israel; wants to accept campaign donations from foreign terrorists; wants to let his family members live poor lives; and on and on. And how come we have to show our birth certificate to get drivers licenses? His is ‘sealed’! None of the nationally-respected financial analysts have endorsed him. I can’t imagine Obama’s painting hanging alongside George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, or Thomas Jefferson, just to name a few. It’s beyond me why anyone would vote for such a questionable, far-left liberal. Dear God help us, please!
Posted by: Vicki | November 3, 2008, 7:05 am 7:05 am
wow- all of you obamaites with your indignation. i guess you can ignore all of the transgressions from your ilk- from the intimidation you started with in iowa through the harassment of anyone who does not buy into your dogma now (across media and in public places). the bottom line is that those protestors were right- joey hair-plugs DID say barry was not ready in the debates and more recently, and his economic policies will tax the middle class with an ever decreasing threshold (biden went as low as $150K and bill richards went to $120K!)
Posted by: eric in nj | November 3, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am
I voted against bam bam!!! I can do the math. $2.2 trillion in NEW spending can’t be covered by just 5% of the taxpayers.
Posted by: Gregg | November 3, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
Vote Obama!!! Let’s all work to get the new Communist movement underway! Join the struggle! Viva Che! Viva Obama! (oops, I just made a poopy)
Posted by: dumberthanyou | November 3, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
Look people, Obama is NOT the messiah thats gonna solve all your problems. Getting off your ass and working for it might though. Equal access to opportunity doesn’t guarantee equal success, life has no guarantee.
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Posted by: ladysmith1 | November 3, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am
“preach a message of unity and bipartisanship”?
That couldn’t be farther from the truth.
As hard as Barry Hussein Obama has tried to both hide his past and not even have a past to criticize (Present votes), sooner or later the American people were bound to find out and recognize these scary and nasty fact about him.
He is not an American citizens by birth.
His mother was a radical socialist who married two muslims.
Barry has been an afro-centric Marxist since his college days.
Barry’s associations include known radicals, terrorists, criminals, and America haters.
Barry worked for and help funnel money to the largest voter fraud organization in the country, ACORN.
Barry has professed disdain for our Constitution and our legal system. He would appoint judges that would rule according to “fairness’ rather than the law. (His words)
Barry has used dirty tricks to win elected office rather than win elections fair and square.
Barry will say anything to anybody in order to win. He is an expert at double talk. He takes both sides of an issue.
He says he will bankrupt coal companies.
Barry Hussein Obama will create a national civilian police force. Now that sounds absolutely scary.
Barry will definitely take away your firearms, little by little. Socialist dictators cannot tolerate an armed population.
Barry says that, although he admits lowering capital gains taxes stimulates the economy, he would raise them in th interest of “fairness.
Barry has said repeatedly in various ways and statements, he wants to spread the wealth around.
He is a vicious Marxist, if not an outright Communist.
Barry has an army of lawyers and thugs that attempt to silence any and all critics.
Barry Hussein Obama has been protected by the media but he is the most dangerous person ever to run for office in the USA.
Posted by: ricardo maxwell | November 3, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am
Speaking of Brown Shirts (as libs always do when discussing conservatives even though they were part and parcel of the German SOCIALIST party of Hitler and Obama had a commercial with kids chanting ala Hitler Youth), WHy hasn’t the press run with his summer call for an equally funded and powerful (equal to the military) “civilian security force”? We probably already have more police per capita than any nation on the planet. Where are the cries of SS or Brown Shirts there?
Posted by: Howard | November 3, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am
This story warms the cockles of my heart! I really have to thank liberals for running a candidate so socialist, so radical, that it actually got the attention of normal people enough to cause them come out and SHOUT! God bless the USA and the conservatism that got us here!
Posted by: Mike M | November 3, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
Remember… It is not over until the last legal vote is counted!!
McCain/Palin 2008!!
Posted by: JILL | November 3, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am
This is one of the few Republican protests I have read about this election season. It’s usually Democrats causing a commotion.
Posted by: Ana Saraca | November 3, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am
Take Barrack-a-lax. It’s the new slow acting laxative. Take it now, because it takes about four years to work. When it does, you’ll get rid of all that Democratic sh!t.
Posted by: Stand up Chuck! | November 3, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am
It is an indisputable fact that George Bush has lead this country to the brink of disaster, but if you look at the big picture the real blame lies with the factions of big oil and big business that has lead George Bush. John McCain is not a bad man, but if John McCain is elected president of this country those same factions that have lead George Bush and this country to the brink of disaster will continue to lead John McCain down the same path, maverick or no maverick, there will be nothing John will be able to do about it. It is obvious that the factions that lead this country have already taken over John McCain campaign. People close to John McCain say that the John of today is not the John they have known for years, of course not, what John says is not John’s words, they are written for him by the people that control John and want to continue to control this country.
Posted by: LANNY EDWARDS | November 3, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
FUNNY….HAVE ANY OF YOU HEARD ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE MESSIAH’S GRANDMA IN HAWAII ?? THE ONLY THING IVE HEARD IS THAT AFTER HE GOT BACK THE RECORDS WERE SEALED.SUDDENLY SHE ISN’T DEATHLY ILL…. HMMMMM YOU CAN GET YOUR GRAPE KOOLAIDE STARTING WEDS AT THE WHITE HOUSE. BYOC. bring your own cyanide.
Posted by: marine43 | November 3, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
I can’t wait for the day when all you Obamorons wake up to find you’ve been conscripted into Obama’s ‘Civilian National Security Force’ via his mandatory community service scheme Will you squeal and cry like little girls when you realize you’ve been drafted and there won’t be any college deferments? You might as well get fitted for your uniforms while youre lining up to vote! Have fun in Iraq and Afghanistan! Bwaaahaahaa!
Posted by: Merryfield | November 3, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am
Reading these comments on this board sounds like we Americans are really united aren’t we? This election has done more to divide this country like no other election I have ever seen.
The hate and slander being posted here reminds me of some Hollywood movies about the Nazi’s during the 30′s.
Problem is, I have a hard time differentiating which party of hate, best reflects the Nazi’s of the past.
Posted by: Independent minded | November 3, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am
Civilized? Oh, like Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright. That brand of civilized? If I continue to disagree with Biden (writer of his own material?), will he send Obama’s civilian force d’coup after me, commrade? Hmmmm….. No thanks
Posted by: Hammerckg | November 3, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am
ITS AMAZING HOW YOU GUYS ARE DEFAMING THIS JOE THE PLUMBER. HE IS JUST THE AVERAGE AMERICAN WHO ACTUALLY GOT A CHANCE TO ASK A PERSON WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT A QUESTION. IF IN YOUR MIND YOU THINK YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS THEN YOU ARE STARTING TO SETTLE INTO THE COMMUNIST WAYS ALREADY. THIS IS NOT PARTISAN. EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD BE ABLE [IF THEY SEE A GOV OFFICAL] ASK A QUESTION. THIS COUNTRY BELONGS TO US AS AMERICANS. THEY ARE SERVANTS TO THE PUBLIC. IF YOU CAN’T HANDLE THESE QUESTIONS THEN HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE WORLD LEADERS WHEN THEY ASK HARD QUESTIONS? OH NOW I KNOW YOU WILL THEN FIND A WAY TO CUT OFF INTERVIEWS OR MEETINGS FROM THEM. JUST LIKE THE FOX NETWORK AND OTHER NEWS ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON’T GIVE YOU CREAMPUFF QUESTIONS.
P.S. IF YOU TAKE THE GUNS THEN YOU CAN CONTROL THEIR VOICES! STOP THEIR VOICE THEN YOU CAN SAY OR DO ANYTHING LIKE SPREAD HARD EARNED WEALTH. THEN YOU CAN RAISE THEIR TAXES. IT WENT FROM 250,000 TO 150,000 SOON IT WILL BE 50,000. THE SAD THING IS THAT MANY OF YOU BELIEVE THAT HE WILL REALLY CUT TAXES FOR 95 PERCENT OF AMERICANS. THE MATH DOES NOT ADD UP. OH WE WILL JUST TAX OUR BUSINESS SO MUCH THAT MORE WILL LEAVE THIS COUNTRY. THIS IN TURN WILL COST MORE AMERICAN JOBS. WAKE UP AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: WINSTON | November 3, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am
Liberals aka socialists aka Marxists aka Democrats must really be scared. Look at all this hate-filled garbage they are posting.
“I’ve been a registered/voting Republican for forty years. After reading these comments, I wonder why.
I’ll be voting for Obama/Biden this time around.
Posted by: Old Republican | Nov 3, 2008 6:04:37 AM”
If this liar is a Republican, then Obama must be the Messiah!
“THE TOXIC REPUBLICAN PARTY
The G.O.P. is at the culmination of its long transformation into a haven for racists and reactionaries. The G.O.P.’s transformation into the party of the ‘unreasonable, intolerant right’ is likely to accelerate as a result of the impending 2008 election defeat. This will pose a dilemma for any remaining moderates, many of whom
have spent the Bush years in denial about the dishonesty and contempt for the rule of law. That denial has been maintained through this year’s election season even with the McCain-Palin tactics growing ever uglier. But one of these days the small remnant left of honorable, old-style conservative Republicans will realize that the G.O.P. is now no longer their home. It is the home of the German-style brown shirt, filled with resentment, paranoia, and hatred of anything progressive.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/opinion/03krugman.html?partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
Posted by: steve_detroit | Nov 3, 2008 6:16:24 AM”
Well Not everyone has seen the video of the Obama JUNGEND, thanks to the media hiding it. But many have seen and heard Obama’a declaration that he would create a national civilian police force. What do third world dictators use these for? Death Squads! Barry already has a band of thugs and lawyers attempting to silence his critics and useful idiots, paid and unpaid like these posters above.
Posted by: ricardo maxwell | November 3, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am
I was there and those protesters were democrats for McCain. Maybe they would’t need to protest to get attention and get their message out if we had a free and fair press that didn’t dump reporters off their plane or try to dig up mud on the few reporters who ask them real questions.
Posted by: Jim | November 3, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
IT IS SO SAD THAT THE REPUBS WANT ANOTHER 4 YEARS LIKE THE PAST 8—THEY MUST BE DOING WELL ON WELFARE AS THE JOBS HERE HAVE GONE FOR THE MOST PART—-I GUESS THE TRAILER PARK CREW ARE AFRAID THEY MIGHT GET A JOB AND HAVE TO WORK.BUT THEY DO LIKE THE SCREECHING WITCH FROM HUSTLER.COM
Posted by: rodney | November 3, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
Will Obama model his planned Civilian Militia on the Fruits of Islam? They got up in people’s faces in the aftermath of Katrina and called them White Devils…then passed out flyers saying White Devils blew up the levees to kill black people in the Ninth Ward. Farrakhan and Obama are closer than he wants you to know.
And his astonishing statement that he will bankrupct the Coal industry? I know the folks in W. Virginia out voting for him have a bright future.
I don’t care for McCain..but he ran the clean race…not mentioning Rev. Wright…taking his own party down to defeat with Joe Lieberman..pandering for the Hispanic vote which is going solidily for Obama…..McCain didn’t hurt Obama…he just hurt Republicans…as usual.
Posted by: Sherry Madison | November 3, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
All the biased here is mainly from Obamas spending millions of dollars to higher bloggers to post obama talk points. You liberals have lost all credentials with me, You ignore our countrys interests and go with obama who will take us into socialism country, All the negative things that have came out about OBama and so far the media ignores it, The biggest blunder in united states history. Obama is going to destroy america and i blame the media for not doing their jobs. I call for a boycott of all cable news that work to make our opinion for us rather then broadcasting news.
Posted by: Mccain 08 | November 3, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
What happens when the bubble bursts on the Bubble Candidate? Are we really about to elect someone who just spent a half hour infomercial telling us how he can fix everything? Are we serious about putting Joe Biden a heartbeat away from the Oval Office? Is it possible that we might intentionally send people like Al Franken to serve in Congress with loons like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?
Posted by: Winston Smith | November 3, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
America will not vote in the socialist, Obama and his inept vp, Joe Biden. Nor will America legitimize the left wing Obamabots who threaten, assault and intimidate the average citizen – Joe the Plumber is a good example of how one innocent man, asking one legitimate question of a candidate, has been villified and threatened by the new Obama brownshirts. We will NOT let our country be ruined by these folk!! Our freedoms must be protected and Obama will take them away. COUNTRY FIRST.
Posted by: bb | November 3, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
So called Republicans call Obama a socialist when Mccain himself is indeed a socialist, who voted in favir of the anti-American Patriot Act and bailout bill. Bob Barr all the way.
Posted by: immigrant | November 3, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
@Independant American Woman
That just isn’t fair for you to say. If “Joe the Plumber” was as abusive as you claim, he would not have been given custody of his child. You are making up lies to defame somebody just because you do not agree with their politics.
It is EXACTLY because of the Gestapo tactics like this by the left that I cannot trust them to run this country. It seem that all you folks know how to do is rip people down that you do not agree with. You don’t deal with the issues, you just start calling people racists and wide beaters.
Posted by: Thunderstorm Patriot | November 3, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Obama wants to bankrupt coal companies. Obama didn’t know about his Aunt living illegally in the U.S.? Give me a break. There are so many things that are unanswered about Obama. Deomcrats don’t want to hear the answers because they’re afraid their “messiah” may be in fact their “false prophet.” VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!!!
Posted by: Kevin | November 3, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
IF YOU DONT LIKE OBAMA I SUGGEST THAT WHEN YOU GET THE TAX BREAK—SEND IT BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT—-I AM SURE YOU ALL WILL DO THAT—HA HA HA HA HA–BUT I GORGOT YPOU ALL ARE NETTING OVER 250 THOUSAND–WHAT A BUNCH OF FREAKING IDIOTS.
Posted by: rodney | November 3, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
I’d rather be full of myself than full of crap, like you Dems are. Also, Joe bashers, please cite your sources about his alleged spousal abuse; what state was it? What does that have to do with his money, even if it is true?
The media better hope Obama does NOT win, because they will see a backlash that will put many of THEIR workers in the unemployment line. If Obama wins, I, for one, will not watch a single movie or buy a single newspaper or magazine made during his term. I will write every advertiser on Oprah and let them know that I will not buy their products unless they pull their ads. I recommend all other voters who are not drunk from the kool-aid to do the same. The media WILL literally pay for screwing over Hillary Clinton and putting a scrawny, unqualified megalomaniac in the White House. The Dems in Congress and the voting booths have shown their true colors once again; do-nothing, know-it-all egotists who ignore history with pompous arrogance. Welcome back, Carter? God help us all.
Posted by: Maximus | November 3, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
BANKRUPT COAL COMPANIES?????????????THEY HAVE BEEN DOWN SINCE THE FIFTIES–HOWEVER 50% OF ELECTRICITY IS GENERATED BY COAL — BUT THE POLUTION IS UNEXCEPTABLE–AND MUST BE CLEANED UP –NEW TEC IS NEEDED.
Posted by: rodney | November 3, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
The obambi posters on here are such hypocrites.POS dems/code pinks were smuggled into the republican convention with press passes and disrupted that and you idiots thought it was hysterical. The lack of civility is all on the dem side. And by the way , a word to the wise, start preparing for the riots if Bambi wins or loses. Personally, I am hoping to give you something to riot about, say a 10million obama “win” in the popular vote (New York and California) and 285 of the votes that count for McCain (the electoral variety). Granny get your gun.
Posted by: fidel33134 | November 3, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am
Nothing will open a person’s eyes faster than reading the vile and venomous hate-filled lies and rhetoric posted her by the left wing Obamabots.
The sad thing is that we have allowed, nay, facilitated and encouraged these vermin and their anti-American Marxist philosophy since the 1960′s. People like Wm. Ayers and the national teacher’s unions have brainwashed our children and indoctrinated them with revisionist history. Today is the day to take and stand and save America.
And tomorrow is the day (if you haven’t already voted) to send the message to Democrats. No more taxing the stuffing out of the productive in this country in order to turn around and hand out money in return for votes. Big govt is bad govt. Our founding fathers saw this. Obama hates it. It interferes with the planned takeover of the USA and our economy.
Posted by: ricardo maxwell | November 3, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
Nothing will open a person’s eyes faster than reading the vile and venomous hate-filled lies and rhetoric posted her by the left wing Obamabots.
The sad thing is that we have allowed, nay, facilitated and encouraged these vermin and their anti-American Marxist philosophy since the 1960′s. People like Wm. Ayers and the national teacher’s unions have brainwashed our children and indoctrinated them with revisionist history. Today is the day to take a stand and save America.
And tomorrow is the day (if you haven’t already voted) to send the message to Democrats. No more taxing the stuffing out of the productive in this country in order to turn around and hand out money in return for votes. Big govt is bad govt. Our founding fathers saw this. Obama hates it. It interferes with the planned takeover of the USA and our economy.
Posted by: ricardo maxwell | November 3, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
Obama Biden has been the most manipulative, style based and hollywood manufactured campaign I have ever seen. The idea that a no experience senator who has taken no principled positions on anything and show that he can flip flop at a sneeze if it means it’ll help him in the poll is historical indeed………History’s biggest phony, empty suit candidate ever! I would have voted for Hillary but now I’m voting 100% republican down the line….for congress, for senate, for city council and for president!
Posted by: James | November 3, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Biden is a seasoned pro on the hustings who plays through staying with the fact and the law combined with the message of renewal.
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Posted by: Ben | Nov 2, 2008 3:24:58 PM
Republicans think they are the only “good” Americans, thank God they’re only 29% of the voters.
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We republicans don’t think we are better. We know we are!
Posted by: Al-in-Indy | November 3, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
Obama wants to “spread the wealth”. McCain will buy upside-down mortgages and sell your house back to you at the current market value.
It’s a little hard this time to figure out which candidate will give me more of someone else’s money!
Posted by: Dan | November 3, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am
SEEING PALIN ON HUSTLER.COM DOES IT FOR ME –TALK ABOUT A PIG IN LIPSTICK—MCCAIN MUST BE ABSOLUTELY CRAZY—-HE MUST HAVE TOTALY LOST HIS MIND OR VERY SERIOUSLY SENILE.
HE MAY NOT LAST 4 YEARS AND TO THINK OF THIS RUNNING OUR COUNTRY WE WOULD HAVE THE WORLD LAUGHING AT US.
Posted by: rodney | November 3, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
These protesters will find themselves in a re-education camp soon to get their minds right. We’ll bring back water boarding until they comply with “THE ONE”. We all know how much better things will be once the Gov. runs our lives. Just look at how well the DMV works.
Posted by: Slapshot | November 3, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
The statement was made…You can lead a Republican to water…Well then Obama supporters, please inform us. Explain the Obama associations with Wright, Farrakhan, Ayers, Rezko, Kallidi and the other racist, hate mongering crew. Obama won’t, he won’t. He’s lying and the liberal media is doing the best they can to keep it covered up. The water is right in front of you, you here it, you see it, but you refuse to question it. Obama attended the racist, America hating Wrights church for 20 years. Claimed, his words here, Rev Wright “converted him to Christianity”. You think over that 20 years he wasn’t conditioned to be just like Wright? It’s time for you to read and question instead of giving the man a “blind faith” vote because if you break down his cover you’ll see he is just like Wright, Farrakhan and the others. Negative replies will only be accepted after you do your homework…Class dismissed!
Posted by: Bob the Ind. | November 3, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am
I used to be a socialist. Senator- the change you are speaking of “spreading the wealth around” doesn’t work. It take the incentive away from hard-working self employed business folks. Over the course of the last 15-25 years, these people have been the job creators in this country.
This type of “change” will further bankrupt our country. While I am sorely disappointed at Bush for not holding the line on the deficeit (currently at 9.6 trillion). (It grew by $3 trillion under Bush).
I believe that this next President will balloon it another 3+ trillion in 4 years which will almost bankrupt the country.
Think of your kids and grand kids when you vote on Tuesday. Don’t be for change for change sake. Think of the leadership of the House and Senate. Both Pelosi and Reid are committed tax and spend Democrats.
If spending goes out of sight in the next 4 years, which it may well do – we will all suffer tremendously.
Posted by: Lee L | November 3, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am
GOOD NEWS DEMS, Hugo Chavez just told the press that he wants to come to the White House to meet with the “black man” who will be president of the US. Chavez wants to thank him in person for his commitment to bankrupt the US coal industry. He also wants to give bambi some more policy pointers and the schedule for the installation of Russian nukes in Venezuela.
Posted by: fidel33134 | November 3, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
We know absolutely nothing about Obama. What about his schooling in Indonesia, his life in Kenya, his life in Hawaii.
What did his parents do?
Who would vote for somebody we do not even know.
I know a Democrat, because they are no nothings!!!!!
Posted by: Bruce | November 3, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am
West Virginians beware. Look at these facts about the coal industry. And Obama wants them to go BANKRUPT:
- More than half of the nation’s electricity is generated from coal.
- In West Virginia 99% of the generated electricity comes from coal.
- There are currently 14 coal fired electric generating facilities located in West Virginia.
- Coal provides the majority of electric power in 32 states.
- In the United States, the demand for electricity has increased 136% since 1970.
- National demand for electricity is expected to increase by another 24 percent by 2020.
- Emissions from power plants have been reduced by 1/3 over the past 30 years.
- It has been estimated that 13 percent of the national power requirement is taken up by activities associated with computers and information technology.
- Taxes paid by the coal industry and by utility companies that make electricity using West Virginia coal account for two-thirds, or over 60% of business taxes paid in WV.
- The coal industry pays approximately $70 million in property taxes annually.
- The Coal Severance Tax adds approximately $214 million into West Virginia’s economy.
- Twenty-four million dollars of coal severance taxes collected each year goes directly into the Infrastructure Bond Fund.
- All 55 counties, even the non-coal producing counties receive Coal Severance Tax funds.
- The coal industry payroll is nearly $2 billion per year.
- Coal is responsible for more than $3.5 billion annually in the gross state product.
Posted by: Kevin | November 3, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
Obama supporters are such kind loving intelligent people based on their wise commentary here. They will guide us to the light. Obama will be a fair King all his subjects will adore him. The evil Bush will be banished and peace will reign in the world.
BOHICA
Posted by: BobNatlanta | November 3, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Obama’s plan to bankrupt coal is a great reason to vote for him if you believe in man-made global warming. I wonder why he hasn’t been more up-front about the plan. Since I don’t live in “Coal Country” I don’t see it hurting my income.
Maybe Obama can build some solar cell assembly plants in WV with all the money taken from “Big Coal”.
Posted by: Dan | November 3, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
If the Dems are soooo smart, why do so many have their hands out? I just heard a clip from a Obomatron saying with Obama she won’t have to worry about her morgage or gas or car payment, sharp people over on the left.
Castro “59″ change you can believe in
Posted by: Slapshot | November 3, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Obama is a pot smoking, cocaine snorting, terrorist pandering,communist leaning left wing clown. If he were white he would be laughed off the stage just as his fellow democrats did during the debates. Joe Biden said he wasn’t ready and for once he had told the truth. Why people worship this muslim sure confuses this writer.
Posted by: BigArch | November 3, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
REPUBLICANS DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OBAMA—-TRY READING YOU KNOW THAT SUBJECT YOU WERE TO LEARN IN THE FIRST GRADE—-I WILL TAKE THE TAX BREAK ,ANYONE THAT DONT WANT IT SEND IT TO ME–I WILL THANK YOU.
OBAMA –BIDEN
Posted by: rodney | November 3, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
why do Dems want to kill the children?
Posted by: Dan | November 3, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
How dare anyone speak out against The ONE. You see what the Dems did to Joe the Plumber. They’ll do it to you too if you step out iof line. Joe asked a tough question and embarrassed Obama, so the used government computers and government employees to dig up all the dirt they could. Then they sent their minions who respond to internet posts to work spreading lies about Joe the Plumber.
Now he’s being called a wife beater (definitely a lie, don’t you think that would have been a bigger deal in the media than the tax evasion charges) and according to Joe Biden he’s unpatriotic because he isn’t paying all his taxes.
This is how Obama’s team answers tough questions, by smearing the asker.
Let’s just remember Joe the plumber is just some guy who asked a simple question.
The fact that Obama is a socialist is the real issue.
Interesting how the media has made Joe the Plumber a bigger story than the fact that Obama wants to spread the wealth around.
Posted by: Sam N | November 3, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
rodney,
You are either drunk early in the morning by the ignorant text you just posted or you are a 7-11 manager in the NY-NJ area. Learn to write without an accent and “please to get your lips off my slurpy machine Mr. Simpson”. You welfare careerist wanna-be dumb-a**.
Posted by: Bob the Ind. | November 3, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
WELL MCCAIN AND HIS VP HAVE STIMULATED THE REDNECKS—TRAILER PARK PEOPLE–THE SKIN HEADS—THE KKK—-NOW THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL CHANGE—-KILLERS ,FREAKS HALFWITS–DOES HE WANT TO BE HITLER NEXT—-FREAKING REPUB PARTY HAS GONE NUTS.
IT WILL ALL END TOMORROW–
OBAMA– BIDEN THE CHANGE WE DESPERATELY NEED.
Posted by: rodney | November 3, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Commenters on this blog have suggested that peaceful protesting is nasty or illegal. These people need to read the Constitution and know their own history, or maybe it isn’t their own history because they are immigrants to this great nation. Peaceful protest is very American, that’s why Biden said, “they’re good folks,” because he knows that what this country is about. You can this nasty politics? WHAT DO YOU CALL THE MOB LYNCHING OF JOE THE PLUMBER AND SARAH PALIN? They both have taken it well because they know that’s part of the American way. THEY RESPECT AMERICA AND AMERICANS. THOSE WHO ARE PERSECUTING WHITE CHRISTIANS AND CALLING THEM RACIST FOR BEING AN AMERICAN ARE TRULY THE RACIST. MANY ARE IMMIGRANTS LIKE OBAMA’S AUNT WHO ARE EVEN HER ILLEGALLY. IMMIGRANTS AND THEIR COMPANY HAVE LONG BEEN TRYING TO HIJACK THIS COUNTRY FROM IT’S FOUNDERS PROGENY. THEY ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO TWIST YOUR MIND UNTEL THEY GET INTO YOUR POCKET AND STEAL YOUR COUNTRY FROM YOU. OBAMA THREW MCCAIN REPORTERS OFF HIS PLANE. IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU, IT’S STILL NOT SAFE TO BOARD AIRPLANES WITH SOME PEOPLE ANYMORE.
Posted by: notonmywatch | November 3, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Please, let’s be honest. We’ve had redistribution since Income Tax started. Yes, it’s a bold thing for a candidate to say so and probably not a wise political move.
It seems like someone predicted that in a democracy people would eventually vote to take other people’s money. I guess the trick is for the politicians to make sure that they maintain a majority of people that see themselves as benefiting from the policy.
Posted by: DanInCA | November 3, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am
I can feel the love. United on Nov 5th my arse!
Posted by: Jase | November 3, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
NOTONMYWATCH
THE INDIANS SHOULD DRIVE US ALL BACH INTO THE SEA—–THEY ARE THE ONLY TRUE AMERICANS——WHAT ARE YOU WHERE DID YOUR ANCESTORS COME FROM.
Posted by: rodney | November 3, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
QUITE SIMPLY——-THE LAST 8 YEARS HAVE BEEN FAR MORE THAN ENOUGH—YOU CANNOT PUT IT ANY SIMPLER
Posted by: rodney | November 3, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/confession-of-an-obama-blogger-by-sarah-p-as-posted-to-this-site/
Posted by: jagfan61 | November 3, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Vote for a traceable blood line,American family values and anti-Socialist beliefs.
John McCain for President
McCain * Palin 2008
Posted by: Vote American Boold Line | November 3, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
Its the failed ecomomic policies of the past that have brought us to this point.Starting with the Carter administration and the Community Reinvestment Act. Yet another attempt at social engineering. It was later enhanced under the Clinton administration with the aid os Alen Greenspan and the repeal of the Glass Stingel Act. Now sub prime mortgages were to be pushed by polititions putting pressure on banks to make bad loans so “all americans can be proud homeowners” except these people could not afford these mortgages.Sen. Obama as a lawyer was even involved in a leagal case against CitiBank for not making enough sub prime loans. It was discrimination toward blacks and other minorities. Still with the help of Freddie Raines at Fannie Mae and others such as Barney Franks gay lover also at Fannie Mae,bad loans were bought up, bundeled and sold worldwide and campaign contributions flowed. And when the evil Bush administration tired to reguate these institutions in 2003 the Dems blocked it.Also in 2005 and 2007 when MaCain was co sponser of a bill to do the same it was again blocked by the Dems. Isnt it interesting that more moeny is given to the Dems from Wall Street by far. And isnt it sad that their attempt at social engineering has resulted in the dreams of many dashed and their credit ratings in shambles. Not to mention 700 Billion to bail out Wall Street so the good old boys can keep on giving.These are the failed economic policies of the past and why we need to vote for Senetor John Macain.
Posted by: Tom | November 3, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
Just remember, after this election is country will be the most divided than it ever has been. Most of the blame does not go to Repubs thou. It goes to the party that divides people into small groups(race, gender, sexual orientation, income, etc).
Posted by: celeste | November 3, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light.html
Posted by: JP | November 3, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
rodney,
Read my earlier post. If McCain had attended a White version of the church Obama did it wouldn’t be tollerated. Who’s the racist? Who wants a Civilian Guestopo Force? Who has claimed he’ll bankrupt the coal industry? Who claimed they want to cut billions from defense that will force layoffs in Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, California and other defense technology producing states? Who won’t give any medical history other than a grade school doctors note? Who won’t explain their involvement with the PLO, domestic terrorists, Farrakhan, Rezko and Wright? What party attacked an citizen for asking a tough question? What party used government resources to start an illegal investigation on that citizen? Get with the program, do your homework and stop blindly supporting someone who put all those question right in front of you. You refuse to see what’s right in front of your face! And for God sake man, turn your CAP LOCK off and at least try to act educated.
Posted by: Bob the Ind. | November 3, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
“Why so socialist?”
I have to confess, that made me chuckle. The mental image of the late Heath Ledger as the Joker, stumping for McCain, is priceless.
Everybody has the right to assemble in the country, and as long as there’s no violence involved, they’ve got a right to get a little loud and obnoxious.
After the election, when the RNC lies, distortions and fear-mongering are clearly revealed for what they are, maybe some of the energy galvanized by that fear can be turned to more positive pursuits, such as making the country a better place for all its citizens.
Posted by: Yukon Sam | November 3, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
I can’t wait for my welfare checks to go up, free gas and mortgage payments. I actually had to work for the last 8 years, and had a job, but no more. Tax those those rich aholes to death, I want a free ride.
Posted by: Puhleeeaasseee | November 3, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Wow what a lot of hate amoung the democrats. If this continues our country will be divided forever. People died so that you could have your freedom of speach which will be taken away by Obama anyway. Didn’t you see what happened to Joe the Plumber when he dared to question Obama? And what about the female reporter in Florida? They even went after her husban. Three reporters were booted from Obama’s plane because their newspapers did not support. I hope you democrats like it when you become Obama’s next target.
Posted by: Rose | November 3, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
I’m the 9th Great Grandson of a 17th century Huguenot…12th Gen American. Not that I get an extra vote for it.
Posted by: Bob the Ind. | November 3, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
So glad Joe didn’t stick his foot in his mouth again.
Posted by: Charles | November 3, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Isn’t is a bit hypocritical to slam Joe the Plumber for wife beating yet support a unqualified candidate for President who stated that his first act would be the codification of the Freedom of Choice Act?
Why can Dems spew their hate without repercussion or backlash?
Posted by: Biden's Botox | November 3, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Obama wants to creat the “Civilian National Security Force” = Nazi Brown Shirts.
Sign up now to be apart of Obama’s elite force to put down unrest in the United States. They will be given powers by the U.S. Congress to take away not only your guns, but your freedom of speech as well. No good dictator should be without his own personal civilian military. Just ask Hitler, just as Saddam Hussein or Irans Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. They too created their own elite forces to put down unrest in their countries. Obama is now on his way to ranking right up there with the worlds most loved dictators. Oh yea, thank you democrats and liberals for voting Obama into office. It will be a pleaseure storming into your house and taking away you wife and children to the local rape rooms. Can’t wait for the fun to begin.
Posted by: The Oracle | November 3, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
That’s right Rodney, us Republicans DO NOT know anything about Obama. May be if Obama came out and told us more about himself, we would feel more comfortable about him being President. MCCAIN – PALIN ALL THE WAY!!!!
Posted by: Kevin | November 3, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
This country will stay divided regardless of who wins tomorrow. Marxist Demoncrats will always be my enemy!
Posted by: JL | November 3, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
The richest man is not who has the most, but who needs the least.
Republicans knew this election year was going to be tough. Any democrat candidate was likely to win.
I voted McCain as I’m pro choice. I can’t support partial birth abortions. I have to put God when making a choice for my candidate, even if it hurts my pocketbook.
Posted by: Sue Grambley | November 3, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Watching the networks this morning, the ONLY show I saw that talked about Obama’s claim that he intends to make “electric rates skyrocket” was on FoxNews. The MSM has been so protective of Obama that it creates this question in my mind:
ABC News: Can you name a single story you have ever broken about Obama that he did not want you to break?
Posted by: Romeo | November 3, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
it’s called protesting. both sides do it. big deal.
Posted by: jd | November 3, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
Much the same as Sue, I have an issue that drives my Indepedent vote (I think the jerk Rodney thought the Ind. in my name title meant Indian, see his lame comment above). As a retired US Navy Chief, I applied the services core values of Honor, Corage and Commitment. McCain met all three where Obama only gets credit for Commitment. A true, proven American was the only choice I could abide by.
Posted by: Bob the Ind. | November 3, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Only the ill-informed and ignorant support Obama Bin Laden. If you want to find out a person’s IQ, without actually having them take a test, just ask them whom the support in this election.
Posted by: Obama Bin Laden | November 3, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
When did all the open-minded, peaceful, America loving Hippies turn into America hating, racists that would rather promote a candidate that does not believe in parts of the U.S. Constitution (by his own words…try G*&%$# Video or Y$%^T*^%), and continue agendas to keep anyone who is not white it the lowest income/social braket? What ever happened to helping our fellow may out of the rut’s of segragation and Jim Crow laws? How about making America better instead of trying to push a socialist agenda where only the wealthy, connected, or ‘party member’s’ have power, control, and decision making authority or votes? Please stop running down the Nazi, Stalinist, or Maoist path. Many simple internet searches or a library visit will show you that these paths lead to mass murder, corruption and suffering.
Wake Up! America is still the best country in the WORLD! If you think otherwise WHY THE F*&% ARE YOU STILL HERE?
Posted by: realspark21 | November 3, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
It’s sad to think that there are so many people in this country so desperate to have government fix their lives.
Can there really be that many people that sleep under bridges, live at the local shelters and stand in soup lines for their food?
So many people desperate for free money? Money that isn’t fee at all. It’ll cost you your freedom.
Is it possible that 51% of our population are destitute and homeless? So hopeless that they willingly proclaim ther allegiance to a single man that promises to take care of all their problems?
Either all these people are truly sad pathetic desperate people or they are completely delusional.
Obama makes promises in order to get elected and he is a politician. Anyone with an I.Q. above that of a glass of water knows, NO politician has ever kept his promises.
I would suggest all those that vote for Obama start looking for a new shelter to live in or a bridge to sleep under. It’s time to start waiting in the soup lines to get your next meal.
It will become your new and permanent way of life.
Posted by: RedNeckAmerican | November 3, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
suregthis – You are a complete nutter.
I wasn’t aware that they had computers at the local shelter. Just sitting around waiting for the food to be brought out are you?
If you don’t like this country I will personally give you a one way plane ticket to any third world crap hole of your choice. All you have to do is renounce you U.S. citizenship and never come back. I would consider it money well spent.
Posted by: TypicalWhiteGuy | November 3, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
A communist *igger. Just what the world needs!
Posted by: Jamie Baillie | November 3, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
Lib/Progressive/Dhimmicrat == PROGRAZI !!!
Wake up Obamunists!!!
The lack of a historical perspective is astounding to those of us whom actually can see these overt stalinist tactics with a chilled reasoned objectivity.
Alas, the BM (Big Media) has thrown any semblance of fact and logic out the window for naked advocacy journalism.
We will never accept a DL Socialist!!!
Please Obamabots, take to heart a 3 letter word, READ!!! It does a Republic good.
Do as all a favor, read something for once that you do not agree with.
Blurting the party-line does nothing to advance your cause.
Debate has been non-existent during this election cycle.
That is a dangerous place of the Republic to be in.
Heed my words.
McCuda08
Posted by: the Deets | November 3, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
unbelievable, we have BO who has never run a thing in hiw whole life. Been given everything on a silver platter. A known socialist. McCain is by far the more qualified candidate. The only ones who can’t see this are the libs in the media. People who could barely pass a math or science class.
is this wha are nation is coming too?
Posted by: left wing nut job | November 3, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Apparently none of you leftist, Marxist fools were here in St.Paul when you protested the GOP Convention. Spitting on cops, throwing human and animal feces, breaking window.. I could go on ad nauseum. Talk about divisive.. Obama is a Marxist pig… Vote Libertarian….!!!
Posted by: EA | November 3, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
If Obama wins, those of you who vote for him now will one day say “My God, what have we done?” When you are standing in line for hours waiting for your government handout, when you lose your job because his socialist policies closed down the business you worked for, when your little children come home from school singing songs about Obama’s greatness and tell you your values are not in line with the state’s, when Obama censors free speech on the radio, television and the internet, when you start to watch what you say about the government because you don’t know who you can trust, when you cannot get warm in winter because his belief in the myth of man-made global warming forces you by law to “conserve”, when you find out your daughter had an abortion but the baby survived and was then allowed to starve to death or was smothered, and when you have to watch a loved one die because they are too old or too handicapped to qualify under nationalized health care for the treatment they need, you will look back on this election and see that you missed your chance to keep this country prosperous and free instead of turning it into Cuba.
I only wish that those who vote for this fool would be the only ones who have to suffer under him, but it will be all of us and our children and grandchildren. I’m not sure America will ever recover from this. He has the heart of a dictator and will act accordingly. If you vote for him, you will get exactly what you deserve.
Posted by: Mike | November 3, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
I am glad the Democrats in responsible positions in Ohio got out the wife beating and tax things on Joe the Plumber (not a plumber). Believe me repugs when I say we will crush you and anyone else. Zionists beware! The foreign policy of the United States will finally be in the hands of the people again. No matter how small you are, like Joe the supposed plumber we will hunt you out!
Posted by: the Buzzer | November 3, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
I am glad the Democrats in responsible positions in Ohio got out the wife beating and tax things on Joe the Plumber (not a plumber). Believe me repugs when I say we will crush you and anyone else. Zionists beware! The foreign policy of the United States will finally be in the hands of the people again. No matter how small you are, like Joe the supposed plumber we will hunt you out!
Posted by: the Buzzer | November 3, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
So, Republicans are mean and they protest? Go check out a web site called Zombie Time. Take a look at his photo galleries of SF area protest rallies then tell me who is mean? I laugh every time I read about people being upset that 30 Republicans got together to protest. Please.
Oh, and if you look at Zombie’s Boobs Not Bombs gallery, have a barf bag ready.
Posted by: Karla | November 3, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
I never thought I’d see my country destroyed from within. Syria, Iran, Venezuela and a host of other countries will be cheering the wholesale destruction of our democracy by nothing more than a smooth talking half breed.
I will no longer donate to any cause. I will no longer have sympathy for the poor or suffering.
When I see someone in need I will laugh and tell them to call Obama for help. I will treat anyone that voted for Obama with hatred and a cold distain. If I see a crime I will walk away laughing as I will no longer get involved and no long care.
Like the Nobel Peace prize, the presidancy of the United States is now meaningless.
What was once a great nation under God will now be just another third world cesspool filled with those who would sell their freedom to the devil himself.
Liberals, you are on your own and victims of your own greed. Enjoy life under a dictatorship, you’ve earned it.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Posted by: SulfurPitt | November 3, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
I never thought I’d see my country destroyed from within. Syria, Iran, Venezuela and a host of other countries will be cheering the wholesale destruction of our democracy by nothing more than a smooth talking half breed.
I will no longer donate to any cause. I will no longer have sympathy for the poor or suffering.
When I see someone in need I will laugh and tell them to call Obama for help. I will treat anyone that voted for Obama with hatred and a cold distain. If I see a crime I will walk away laughing as I will no longer get involved and no long care.
Like the Nobel Peace prize, the presidancy of the United States is now meaningless.
What was once a great nation under God will now be just another third world cesspool filled with those who would sell their freedom to the devil himself.
Liberals, you are on your own and victims of your own greed. Enjoy life under a dictatorship, you’ve earned it.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Posted by: SulfurPitt | November 3, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
From each according to his ability to each according to his need. K. Marx AND B. Hussian
Posted by: terri | November 3, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Obama is a Ptariot and Islam is a religion of Peace. This is OUR time, time of the Obama. Obama will rule for decades and usher us into a better era. Obama / Biden – 08 and forever
Posted by: jojo | November 3, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
First off the reference to Biden saying Obama isn’t ready refers to him saying that in the primaries. C’mon ABC.
As for Republican divisiveness, I don’t know what to say. How does this compare to RIOTS in Minneaplois?
Democrats – The party of inclusion (as long as you agree to do what they say)
Posted by: JustRight | November 3, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Yes.. Obama wants to move tax cuts for the wealthy to the working middle-class, let’s all scream SOCIALISM!!!
I’m glad you lunatics have spewed so much hatred and spread so many already-debunked lies.
Don’t you see??
You guys are giving Obama MORE of a lead with your insanity. He’s up in all final polling after these last 24 hours.
The smears, lies, hate and negativity is repelling undecided voters.
Please keep attacking Obama!!
Don’t forget to mention his Kenyan non-citizenship, his legitimate “fake” birth certificate, the 120k coal jobs that’ll be replaced by 5 million green energy jobs, his over-exaggerated “relationship” with Ayers, Rev Wright and of course now.. the beheading sword dance that he didn’t see and nobody has pictures of…
LOL
Posted by: m3th0d | November 3, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
>>A communist *igger. Just what the world needs<<
You forgot the "N"
Vote NO "Bozos" on election day. Now is not the time for a Baboon fool to be in the "WHITE" house.
Posted by: joe's not home | November 3, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
>>A communist *igger. Just what the world needs<<
You forgot the "N"
Vote NO "Bozos" on election day. Now is not the time for a Baboon fool to be in the "WHITE" house.
Posted by: joe's not home | November 3, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
According to these mindless Obama/Biden supporters, ending division means ending dissent. That will become obvious if Chavez Castro Obama is elected.
fivepin wrote “Only the ill-informed and ignorant support McCain. If you want to find out a person’s IQ, without actually having them take a test, just ask them whom the support in this election.”
The democrat party has long bragged about being for the working man, this year they blab on and on about the middle class. This real supporter once again illustrates the elitist, superior attitude of those that would be the “ruling class”. They only USE the working class, middle class to buy their votes with empty promises. They have no connection or regard for those that make the country work. Hypocrites. Nothing really matters to you except for power. Elected power translates to power to remake this great country to fit your narrow ideals of fair. Fair is what you define and that is an ever changing definition.
Posted by: broken glass | November 3, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
If you are not a liberal at age twenty, you have no heart. If you are still a liberal at age forty, you have no brain! Winston Churchhill
Posted by: DocinMPLS | November 3, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Hey the Dems and Code Pink folks have crashed events and protested for years, turnabout is fair play.
And as for Joe the Plumber maybe some people are sick of government power being used to suppress people who ask questions. George W. Bush never threw NBC’s David Gregory out of the White House because Gregory’s network endorsed an opponent of his. Obama is investigating reporters and kicking them off his plane if their papers don’t toe his line.
Such people should be protested ina free society and if the Obama ticket wants to suppress protests after so may Dem ones over the years it screams that they are hypocrites afraid of any questions. Which is why they tried to destroy the plumber guy in the first place.
Posted by: Jersey Dave | November 3, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Besides, your campaign has been exposed for tactics such as flooding message boards like these pretending to be normal every day supporters. I am sure you also pretend to be McCain supporters in order to paint a negative image. How much is Obama shelling out for professional posters on these sights. You do know that a former Obama speech writer, disillusioned with Obama’s campaign, told on you. Not at all surprising.
Posted by: broken glass | November 3, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Joe “the wife beating” Plummer, huh? Calling a man who asks barry obama a question a wife beater seems as divisive as you can get. Our nation won’t be healed after the election because of people like this. You agree with them, or they destroy you, and use the government to look up your personal info to destroy private citizens. That is not America. Obama and his thugs will bring Cuban style politics. You agree with us, or we throw you in jail. Is that his plan for national unity? Intimidation? And if John McCain wins, democrats won’t reach out to the other side. That isn’t their nature. Joe Biden is the most divisive man in congress. You people will probably riot like you did after the rodney king trial, just as Obama orderd you to “get in our faces.”
Posted by: barack Hussein Ayers Wright Khalidi | November 3, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Joe “the wife beating” Plummer, huh? Calling a man who asks barry obama a question a wife beater seems as divisive as you can get. Our nation won’t be healed after the election because of people like this. You agree with them, or they destroy you, and use the government to look up your personal info to destroy private citizens. That is not America. Obama and his thugs will bring Cuban style politics. You agree with us, or we throw you in jail. Is that his plan for national unity? Intimidation? And if John McCain wins, democrats won’t reach out to the other side. That isn’t their nature. Joe Biden is the most divisive man in congress. You people will probably riot like you did after the rodney king trial, just as Obama orderd you to “get in our faces.”
Posted by: barack Hussein Ayers Wright Khalidi | November 3, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Soclialist of the World unite around the Chosen One of little or no substance. This is the equivilent to a newborn baby becoming King during the Renaissance. Are you people friggin kidding me, You libs are willing to scrap America for a terrorist sypathising, inexpierenced, corrupt Chicago political thug with a pure Marxist agenda. You better hope that John McCain can save you from yourselves, and that is what the Demacrats need right now. An intervention, because they are definately in denial about the dangers they are trying to impose on this great nation with Osama Obama.
Posted by: jeckelmyhyde | November 3, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
If you don’t get out and vote then you can not say anything when the election is over.
Especially if THE PANSY OBAMA is elected. This PANSY will do more damage to this great country then carter ever did in his SORRY 4 years.
Posted by: Harry in LA | November 3, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
God I can’t wait till Obama is elected. I will be the first to join his Civilian security force.
Posted by: Bob | November 3, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
It’s so SAD how Dumb Liberals are. Lying, Ignorant and UnAmerican. Vote Obama for Socialism.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Vote McCain for Freedom!
Posted by: Porkchop | November 3, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
It’s so SAD how Dumb Liberals are. Lying, Ignorant, LAZY and UnAmerican. Vote Obama for Socialism.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Vote McCain for Freedom!
Posted by: Porkchop | November 3, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
AND WHY THE F DOESN’T ABC DO AN ARTICLE ON DEM PROTESTERS AT SARAH’S RALLIES. MEDIA DOESN’T WANT YOU MINIONS TO HEAR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. FRIENDS I’VE BEEN TO HER RALLIES AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE WORST.
Posted by: cat | November 3, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
It’s about time McCain supporters protested this leftist ticket. It’s okay to snoop around in Joe the Plumbers personal records but do it to one of the lefties and all hell breaks loose. A west coast leftist radio host is calling for the death of Joe – that’s unity? Obama says he is going to unite the world – HIS job is to protect and uphold the constitution not save the world. He thinks he is the great healer and unifier – a bunch of bull. All his life he has allied himself with American haters and haters of Israel.
Posted by: Krystal | November 3, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Unfortunately for Biden, Obama, and the Democratic party as a whole it is NOT the economic policies of the last 8 years that have sunk us. Instead, it was the softening of the regulations presiding over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac WHICH WERE PASSED BY CLINTON IN 1999. We also find ourselves in hot water due to our terrible foreign policies, which have been perpetuated for the last hundred years and need to be revamped. Russia was able to get their debt back to zero by pulling out of other countries and only using their military to defend. We should do the same. That, and allow our market to be a free market, as it is supposed to be. Free markets correct their own problems WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION. That’s how it’s supposed to work!
Posted by: blackdove1291 | November 3, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
That is Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher “the wife beater” AKA Joe the plumber!
Posted by: Independant American Woman | Nov 2, 2008 3:20:23 PM
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Keep attacking the average Joe, the hockey mom from Alaska who made it TO GOVERNOR ALL ON HER OWN, not some man’s coattails, keep kicking out the blue-collar base of your party, and watch what happens when McCain pulls a win.
remember 2004 when Kerry was ahead and we all thought he had it in the bag after 4 years of horrible bush policy?
Now, add in people like myself who supported Hillary Clinton, aka PUMAs, reliable republican core base, and subtract the fickle youth vote, and many many blue collar workers turned off by uhbama’s bitter comments, “Goddamn Amerikka”, and Pfleger’s mean spirited ‘sermon’ about Hillary Clinton…Rezko and uhbama’s accepting of financial assistance EVEN WHILE REZKO WAS BEING CRIMINALLY INVESTIGATED…just like he supported Alexi Giannoulias with his mob ties to his family owned bank when he ran for state treasurer…
OBAMA IS DIRTY!
Last words:
I was right about dumbya,
I’m RIGHT ABOUT UHBAMA!
Posted by: destardi | November 3, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
You are out in your front yard, playing catch with your kid. Barrack Hussein Obama comes stumbling into your neighborhood looking for some free photo ops. He comes on your property and asks you if you have a question. He answers the question in a way that completely exposes his “Spread the Wealth” solialist agenda.
Next day, you are splattered all over the news, as being the devil himself. In just hours, the liberal press already knows where every beauty mark and pimple is on your body, as well as every other thing about you. Obama sycophants then call you a “wife Beater” and every other thing they can make up about you.
In the meantime,the Press will not allow you to know anything about the candidate. They disdain any examination of Obama, yet the press and Obama will take an innocent citizen and make him Pinata toy for the liberals to whack about with glee.
That is not the America I know. You should be disgusted with yourselves for allowing the media and Obama to do this to any citizen.
Posted by: Gerry | November 3, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
“The first thing I will do as President will be sign the Freedom of Choice Act!” – Barack Hussein Obama.
…Now why would anyone be so presumptuous to assume both chambers of Congress will deny me my rights? Are those who give me voice really felons? Am I honestly just an undocumented piece of my mom’s anatomy to be casually discarded at will? Possibly you all are as well. My adoptive mommy and daddy will miss me, and I will miss them. I’m sure our lives together would have been something special. Good bye.
Posted by: Voice of The Unborn | November 3, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Matt Jaffe got the reference wrong on the “Obama’s not ready, Joe you said it” chant. They are talking about Biden’s statement in August 2007, “I think he can be ready, but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.” It had nothing to do with the “tested by an international crisis” statement, Matt.
Posted by: KW-37 | November 3, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Reading the posts from the Obama supporters is so hiliarous. Their is no talking sense into them. They truly believe Obama is their savior and he is just going to fix everything. I will be laughing when he royally screws all of you when he doesn’t come thru with a single promise he has made. He will raise everyone’s taxes contrary to what he preaches and give the people who don’t pay any welfare checks. Thankfully he will only be in office for 4 years. Palin 2012
Posted by: sadden | November 3, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Exactly the reason I voted against all Democrats this year. So sick of their divisiveness.
Posted by: Bearway | November 3, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
This will be the beginning of the biggest Civil Divide in our nation ever!
Obama/Biden will force the division.
Our nation is in deep trouble if they become the clowns leading us.
Posted by: jayjay | November 3, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Ignorant Liberals!………………………………….
In just one year. Remember the election in 2006? Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund lo sses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember, it’s Congress that makes law not the President.
He has to work with what’s handed to him.
Quote of the Day……..’My friends, we live in the greatest nation
in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try
to change it.’ — Barack Obama
Posted by: Porkchop | November 3, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Nikita Khrushchev quotes:
“Comrades! We must abolish
the cult of the individual
decisively, once and for all”
“The press is our chief
ideological weapon.”
“I once said, “We will bury you,” and I got into trouble with it. Of course we will not bury you with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you.”
Class warfare is an old, traditional tactic for this particular political persuasion.
Posted by: broken glass | November 3, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
This will be the first time in my entire life that I will vote for a Republican and this really pisses me off!
What the hell have we done to our party?
Who is this nitwit – How did we get here?
Obama has no experiance and he knows nothing about national security or the economy – He is a lightweight!
We missed the boat with Hillary Clinton because of some of you lemmings who bought into that freaking “Change Mantra” -
CPUSA.ORG – Work workers party.org – INTERNATIONAL ANSWER.ORG and all the anti-capitalists (communist look it up for yourselves)groups are in on the Obama for president kick and you wet behind the ears leeches of society are all in line with your hands out – I want my Democrat party back, the party of Kennedy, not Lennon.
You don’t understand what you are doing voting for Obama, but, if he wins I hope you fools remember this post, because I told you so!
Posted by: Pissed Off Democrat | November 3, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Obama Voters, why are you voting to kill babies? You can call republicans what ever you want…but you can’t call them baby killers.
Posted by: Sofie | November 3, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Joe Biden is a drunken, beady eyed weasel f**ker, who can’t string three sentences together without making an ass of himself. And what’s with all those patronizing black dialectical exclamations? “Oh, LORDY day!”, etc.
Nothing more sickening than a white man kissing black political ass.
He’s not only a customer of the Hair Club. He wants to be Vice President.
Posted by: Gampo N'kuma M'bobo | November 3, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Rev Wright might get his wish after all…by electing Barack Hussein Obama, God may very well “damn America”
NObama ’08, Keep the “Change”
Posted by: JD | November 3, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Matteroffacts: McCain was born in Panama on a military base, which makes it American territory. We have never seen Obama’s birth certificate.
Posted by: mm | November 3, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
seems Obama takes ZERO responsibility for his family and his personal decisions, YET Obama seems to think he knows what’s best for this country. WHAT A PUNK! This idiot has lived in the Continental US for a mere 25 years and has immediate family whom are foreign nationals and he has the GALL to run for President!.. this just shows how America will deserve what he gives them. This punk Obama is a double talking unqualified foreign national and a Muslim communist in sheeps clothing. He will be uncovered as a terrorist that was brought to power by Liberal thought. He is a true TROJAN HORSE.
Posted by: commonsense58 | November 3, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
If the liberals win Tueday, a sign will go up in my front yard welcoming everyone to the brand new USSA. United SOCIALIST States of America.
Stalin will be happy with all you goofball liberals.
Posted by: HadItUpToHear | November 3, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Joe isn’t home:
Yeah. The economy did great under Carter. That 21% interest rate really helped us. Carter had a democrat house and Senate too. It was a disaster. You are such a brainwashed dope, completely incapable of generating an original thought. All of your thoughts are talking points from the DNC. It’s sad that approximately 50% of America who wake up every morning to work are going to have to take care of you for the next four years.
Posted by: mm | November 3, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
I am voting McCain because I am a small business owner and have been for over 25 years. My husband and I have never had to lay anyone off before, but if Obama is elected, I am sure we will. Our small business is like a family and letting anyone go will be heartbreaking. We have 13 employees that we employ and most of them have been there for several years.
If Obama is elected, our taxes will go up and the money we would invest in new equipment to grow our business will be paid to the government. I would rather spread the WEALTH in creating new jobs or increases in wages than to send it to the goverment so they can give it to people that don’t pay any income taxes.
Obama says that he will spread the wealth from the bottom up??? Can someone please explain how you do that???
Posted by: Maureen | November 3, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Spread your cheeks ! Here comes Obama to give it to you. Check Obamas fake birth certificate. It has his father listed as African. In 1961 it would have said Negro or Colored, not African.
Posted by: BO BO DIDDLEY | November 3, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Why do we have all the insults? There is no reason to call each other idiots or project a low IQ on anybody that doesn’t agree.
Everybody has invested so much emotion into this election. No matter who wins, the joy of that victory will soon be replaced by reality.
There is no change coming. Not by those two. Both are trying to buy off the middle class with small tax credits. Good luck finding a job with that extra $200 in your pocket.
Posted by: Bert | November 3, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
I hope that you Barack supporters are the ones in the unemployment line because you just got laid off due the Tax Increase that the small businesses and corporations just got because of your socialist choice. All liberals do is bitch and and complain that the rich get tax breaks. Those same rich are the ones that CREATE JOBS! Those rich are the ones that employ the most people!
Posted by: Joe | November 3, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Shove Obama back up whoever’s ass he crawled out of.
And keep the change!
Nuh, nuh, nuh, Nuh!! Not God Bless Obama, God DAMN Obama. It’s IN the BIBLE!! His chickens gonna come home ta’ roost!!
Posted by: Algonquin J. Calhoun | November 3, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
WWWOWWW!
CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!! SOCIALISM RULES!!! JUST LIKE THE IDIOT ON BREITBART.COM WHO INTERVIEWED AT THE OBAMA RALLY. “WHEN OBAMA’S PREZ I WON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PUTTING GAS IN MY CAR OR PAYING MY MORTGAGE AGAIN!”
IF THIS IS WHAT A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WANT THEN I HOPE YOU GET IT. AND IF THIS THE STUPIDITY THAT MOST AMERICANS HAVE SUNK TOO THEN I FEAR FOR THE FUTURE. OBAMA IS NOT A SAVIOR. HE IS A FALSE PROPHET WHO WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO COME THROUGH WITH THE PROMISES HE’S MADE. I REALLY HOPE HE’S DOESN’T BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY LIKE HE PROMISED.
Posted by: reaganconservative | November 3, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
I too WILL NOT participate in this society if this communist Muslim wins the Presidency. I will STOP giving to charity as I will be taxed senseless. I will not help in my community and I will allow these liberal thugs to kill themselves in the streets. I will hoard food in my garage and wait for the end to come. I will call on all Republican friends to STOP participating in this society. SEPARATE ourselves from this NEW GODLESS BABY KILLING NEW ORDER…Obama bin Biden will stand alone with his baby killing anti US friends. God Bless the America I used to know and GOD HELP the America to come
Posted by: commonsense58 | November 3, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Once upon a time there was a Man we’ll call Willie. Willie ran for the biggest job in all the world promising socialized medicine and tax cuts for all!
Well, we didn’t get the socialized medicine or the tax cuts. In fact, Willie raised taxes on a percentage scale never before seen in the history of the world.
Don’t believe the rhetoric, don’t believe socialism will work in this country. Believe in the TRUTH of America and vote for a man that has EXPERIENCE. Vote for a man that has been there and done that.
Don’t vote for someone that wouldn’t serve their country as a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine.
“No man recognizes leadership without the challenge of combat.”
Vote McCain or be a loser.
Posted by: Garpin | November 3, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Sara said “Had it not been for existence of Democrats and Independents, America would have been a Christian fundamentalist theocratic country.”
Instead we have a godless country that takes every opportunity to impune those who choose to believe in God. We have a country where hard work is taxed and single motherhood is canonized. We have a country where babies are murdered because birth control is too intrusive. And most importantly, we have a country with NO MORAL SOUL. Hell, we have the makings of Europe!!
Posted by: Wilbur | November 3, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Socialism 101..make the other side seem extreme…you’ll find that Republican hardly ever..and listen to me you mother f’*ers..hardly ever do this!…Hitler employed these same tactics to make the other side look bad…you people are fo*ls…As a Conservative..I see no reason to demonstrate at a Left wing rally..ONLY TO VOTE AGAINST THEM ON ELECTION DAY!
I’m a 100% sure these people were hired by Barry’s socialist buddys..THE FU*GEN MEDIA NEEDS TO CHECK INTO MY CLAIMS…OR ST*U!
Posted by: Kelly | November 3, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
It’s easier for liberals to call Republicans names. It’s easier than trying to explain why Obama is going to make things so much better. What has he done? Who are his friends and allies? What does anyone really know about him? Why do his family members live in squalor? When has he “reached across the aisle” to do something with Republicans?
Answer those questions truthfully and thoughtfully. Then we’ll talk.
Posted by: czervik | November 3, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
I cant believe i saw liberals decrying a loud protesting group of people. I cannot count the number of times ive had to deal with loudmouth left wing protesters protesting one thing or another or heck the fact that the sun didnt shine their way and it must be the govts fault. You people are the worst kind of hypocrites.
Posted by: jspicer | November 3, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Wake up all you Democrats supporting Obama!! Your man’s terrorist collaborator – William Ayers dedicated his book “Prairie Fire” to – guess who?? Sirhan Sirhan – the assasin who MURDERED Robert F. Kennedy!!! For mercy sake – Caroline Kennedy is out there campaigning for a person who’s best friend glorified the murder of her uncle ????????
Vote for this Marksist fraud at your own risk.
Posted by: jon | November 3, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
We can see why so much of BO’s life is a secret. Everything that comes out shows what a danger he is to our country.
Why is his birth certificate hidden?
Why are his college records sealed?
How close is he with Louis Farrakhan?
Who really wrote his books?
How much of his contributions come from the Middle East?
How did he go to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport?
And on and on and on…..
Besides fooling 1/2 the country, what has he accomplished?
The Hollywood idiots really love this con man.
What suckers…
Posted by: Matt | November 3, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
I had a dream that we are going to win.
God Bless John McCain.
Posted by: goodgirl | November 3, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
I had a dream that we are going to win.
God Bless John McCain.
Posted by: goodgirl | November 3, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Lying Liberal Scumbags!
In just one year. Remember the election in 2006? Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund lo sses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember, it’s Congress that makes law not the President.
He has to work with what’s handed to him.
Quote of the Day……..’My friends, we live in the greatest nation
in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try
to change it.’ — Barack Obama
Posted by: Prokchop | November 3, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Barack Obama’s a Lunatic and that explains why he’s SOCIALIST;
If he gets the chance to actually force his
outright DANGEROUS ENERGY POLICIES on America we are Finished…
GOD HELP US
Posted by: ted | November 3, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Obama supporters
ask yourself this one question and be truthful
if something major happens to this country like 911…will America under Obama stand up and be united or be divided.
and if you answer divided …what exactly would divided mean
Posted by: Dino | November 3, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Barack Obama’s a Lunatic and that explains why he’s SOCIALIST;
If he gets the chance to actually force his
outright DANGEROUS ENERGY POLICIES on America we are Finished…
GOD HELP US
Posted by: ted | November 3, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
“I’m voting Obama for change!” …and what will that change be? Every kid can go to college? Every kid can go to college now as long as they make a “C” average and pay back the loan after they graduate. Helps the middle class? The middle class will be crushed when small businesses and corporations cut jobs or stop growing because their tax burden significantly increased under the Obama plan. “We really should spread the wealth.” Yet Obama contributed less than 1% of his wealth after making $4 million last year and Biden contributed $900 last year on $400,000 in earnings. The only wealth that will be spread is yours, not theirs. And when that wealth is spread, how much makes it to lower or middle class? Very little since it goes through the government’s hands first. When has the government ever efficiently managed anything? Not just the last 8 years, but EVER? Postal Service? A joke. FEMA? A joke. Social Security Administration? A joke. IRS? Big joke. Homeland Security? 20 million illegal aliens shows what a joke that is. What is it in the Kool-Aid that makes Obama supporters think that a larger government is going to efficiently administer anything? National healthcare? Go ask the Canadians why so many of them are coming here for treatment when they have national healthcare in their country. Go ask the brits about long lines for treatment, and government criteria on who is worth saving and will receive certain treatments because of scarcity of resources. As for “bringing this country together”, that is a pipe dream regardless of who wins tomorrow. If Obama wins, this nation will fail socially and economically, and a large portion of our society will be under attack for their dissenting opinions. If Obama loses, his supporters will call “foul” in a way that will make the 2000 elections look like a joke (which btw, 8 years later they still cry about it).
Wake up to reality. You are defined by the company you keep. If you hang out with thugs, racists, socialists, Marxists, communists, and domestic terrorists, then unless you are trying to “make them see the light” you have something in common with them, and no amount of obfuscation changes that. If you are surrounded by big business and self interest groups, then you have something in common with them, and nothing changes that.
You want to stop the hate? You want to heal the divide? Then choose to stop it, and that is done through compromise and sensible discussion of view points. If a man espouses the same tenets outlined by Karl Marx, that does indeed make him a Marxist. That is not hate, that is fact. If it’s what he believes, then so be it, but calling him such does not make everyone else a racist. If others believe Palin is unqualified (though arguably no more so than Obama)then that is their opinion, and it doesn’t make them “haters” for saying so.
Posted by: Got Ignorance? | November 3, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
UPTIGHTY UPPITY TIGHT UPTIGHT TIGHT UP TWISTED IN A WAD UP IN YOUR CRACK TIGHT SO TIGHT UP CAN’T FEEL IT TIGHT UPTIGHT TIGHT TIGHT UPTIGHT CONSERVATIVES!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Obama is a liar … I can smell him from here. Y’know, life here in America is still the best in the world so why is everyone wanting change? Obama’s kind of change is NOT what you want. He is so much like Hitler that it is scary. A vote for Obama is to destroy the American dream and remove our freedoms. Wake up people, or this will be the last election you vote in.
Posted by: Trisha | November 3, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Im middle class and im gonna get a tax cut under obama
GET REAL AND WAKE UP
My energy costs skyrocket and if your one of the few who dont lose their job you can expect to pay higher state taxes .
and whats a education without a job.
do us all a favor and move to canada Ted
Posted by: Dino | November 3, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Just because we disagree, there is no reason to be nasty to one another or to name-call.
Democrats–There have been many protests at Republican rallys. I was at one and I know. No one threatened them. They were escorted away.
The economic problem is the responsibility of many people—in both parties as well as financial institutions as well as our own individual greed. Check your credit card statements and have you bought something you can’t affort including your home or car? Let’s all do a self-check and try and truthful about our own responsibility.
By the way–there are more rich Democrats than Republicans so that is an old argument that doesn’t work anymore.
Please—before making a statement read a paper or a website or check-out media that does not support your worldview.
We can agree to disagree without the rage. How can we unite if there is such nastiness?
It is never just one person’s fault—or one party’s fault. If you don’t know that now, you will someday.
This is from a registered Republican who is not rich, just turned 65, has worked hard all of my life, had a small business with hubby for about 8 years. Hard work. Lost some money but paid our debts. We had to sell and continued to work. I have retired but my hubby is still working part time and I will do something again if we need money. We live on the edge but we are fine and will work more if we need too.
Taxes kill small business—please remember that. Small business also hires a lot of people. Please remember that.
One more thing–can any of you tell me what Senator Obama means by a “Civilian Security Force” that will be as well-funded as the military?
I wish you all the best. Everyone vote aand let’s try and keep civil–okay?
Posted by: Linda | November 3, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Dino I’d rather Obama be behind the wheel than McCain. McCain’s been acting really uncertain lately. Obama’s been calm. Obama will definitely be able to gather the majority of people together and figure something out. He’s a really smart guy.
MM- BARACK OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE HAS BEEN CLEARED BY SO MANY FOLK THE FACT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU OUT THERE MAKES ME SICK. HOW MANY UNEDUCATED PEOPLE WILL IT TAKE TO REALIZE THAT SOMETHING IS NOT TRUE?! I KNOW MCCAIN WHERE MCCAIN WAS BORN- PANAMA! ON A BASE? I’D HAVE TO SEE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE. OH, HAS HE RELEASED THAT YET?
By the way if you really want to see Obama’s birth certificate just go to thee LA Times website, his website, or just google it. Almost everyone has seen it.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Here’s the litmus test for undecided voters. If some things in life are more important to you than money, you could be a Democrat. If nothing in life is more important to you than money, you ARE a Republican. I’ve already voted for Obama. I didn’t think that America’s stature in the world would be enhanced by Simple Sarah’s lack of foreign policy experience and Jovial John is just more Bush. Remember, the GOP stands for Grease Our Palms, Grab Our Profits and Give Others Poverty.
Posted by: robinhunter | November 3, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
“Exactly the reason I voted against all Republicans this year. So sick of their divisiveness.”- Chad
That’s right, Dems and Repubs should all being saying the same thing. Are you braindead? Socialism needs beaten back with every ounce of strength in Americans. It’s just so many want the government (their neighbors money) to treat them like babies and take care of them. Be a real man and make a life where you are independent and fight for others independence and liberty. The more laws and programs government creates, the less liberty CITIZENS have. Democrat IDIOTS want their rears wiped for them and are always victims. Boo hoo, poor them.
Posted by: Ted | November 3, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
How can you justify voting for a guy that:
1. Has said I am selfish for NOT wanting higher taxes
2. Stated he will bankrupt the coal industry
3. Country leaders like Hugo Chavez (Venezuela), Kim Jong IL (N. Korea), Valdimir Putin (Russia), who are OUR ENEMIES, want in office instead of McCain
4. Has, at the very least, QUESTIONABLE associates (and not just 1 or 2)
5. Refuses to produce an ORIGINAL birth certificate
6. CAN NOT/DID NOT pass an FBI background check, but doesn’t need one to be President
7. Has been called by both his VP running mate and Hillary Clinton, inexperienced and “the Oval Office is no place for on the job training”
8. Censors media outlets for asking questions HE doesn’t like
9. Has stated “there are negative liberties in the Constitution”
10. Who voted “NO” to decalring the Iranian Revolutionary Army
a terrorist organization
11. Who voted AGAINST funding OUR TROOPS even though his VP running mate said not to and that a vote against our troops WILL cost American lives
12. Who has said he will only tax people/companies making over 300K, then changed this to 250K, then changed this to 200K and now his VP running mate has changed that to 150K.
Here are a dozen points, can ANYONE justify (a real reason, not just “He Will CHANGE us, that boat has sailed and is pretty old) voting for this guy?
Posted by: Frank | November 3, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Robin Hunter
Please stop making blanket statements like that. You don’t know me. Read my comment a couple up from yours. What is important to me is my family, friends, country, people in general, “life liberty and pursuit of happeniness”, creation all around us.
We might disagree on how things should be done, but for me to say what your motivations(and all other Democrats) are would be quite unintelligent and illogical and also insensitive on my part. Please extend the same grace to me and others who disagree with you. Thanks!
Posted by: Linda | November 3, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
I’m a democrat voting republican for the first time tomorrow. There is no way that I can support a ticket of lies and cheating. I can’t believe so any Americans got duped by Obama. The man has no experience. His word is always a 180 from his actions, and other prior words. I have never seen such a wild liar in my life.
Shame on you people who feel for Obama’s empty promises, lies, and foolish rhetoric. How weak to be brainwashed by Obama’s propaganda via the media. It’s all a facade.
McCain is not perfect. At least he loves America and he’s the first chance of a candidate who will truly work on both sides of the aisle.
No more of this far right, far left shift. ENOUGH!
Get out and VOTE for energy independence and TRULY reforming Washington. Vote for a true American hero and someone we can TRUST.
Go to these blogs:
Puma Pac
Just Say No Deal
No Quarter
The Real Barack Obama
Investigate Barack Obama
Posted by: kat in your hat PUMA | November 3, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
“By the way if you really want to see Obama’s birth certificate just go to thee LA Times website”
Oh yeah, I should believe what I find on the L.A. Times web page, they are unbiased right????? Give me a break!
Posted by: Frank | November 3, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
I have already stopped giving tips. I just sign my bills “Ask Obama for my money”
Posted by: Gerry | November 3, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Frank- with you republicans every media outlet is biased. You guys are living in your own world.
If you don’t want to go to the LA Times website that’s just fine. Just don’t complain about something that isn’t true and you can easily discredit. I mean, how many search engines are there? LOOK IT UP AND STOP LYING!
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Oh, every media outlet, but FOX NEWS. Ridiculous.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Matteroffacts:
Oh, so typical response from an Obamabot. Are you getting the $12.00 pay grade or are you just beginning? C’mon dude, you are so obvious a seminar blogger it’s ridiculous. Let me spell this out for you, just because your boss, Obama, says he “doesn’t know” or it “isn’t true” doesn’t make it go away. Sorry, pal, I have a “copy” of his birth certificate right on my desktop right now, it’s amazing what I can do with it in Photoshop. Would you like your name on it, pretty easy to do. So tell me, why doesn’t your boss supply an ORIGINAL…….Be careful how you respond or may get fired. :)
Posted by: Frank | November 3, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
just reading all these remarks tells me this country is gone. all i read is attack, attack and no reasoning. wake up america, you are close to losing freedom. if the democrats take over the senate and the house, think how they messed up the last two years with barney, reid and the women house speaker . bush is not all to blame. im afraid of the people who are hiding to destroy this country gets in, dont cry in 6 months, mc cain gets my vote
Posted by: ginnie | November 3, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
The original birth certificate — not the birth record. They are two separate things and no, the BHO show has not stepped up to the plate with that. Nor, more importantly, have they released his medical records. Funny how the media and Brobama’s own people clamored for McCain’s health records which he released in a timely fashion. Yet we’re still waiting to see the Obamessiah’s. Just one more thing out the numerous he is trying to hide. All the better to get elected by a foolish electorate, my dear.
So many bitter, angry, envious people make up this year’s BHO supporter. I understand being pissed about the war and our newly worthless 401K accounts. I’m pissed, too. But I’m not mad enough to turn this great nation into some sort of European nanny state. No freaking way! Are you people that brain-dead and angry that you’re willing to go to that extent? That you’re willing to let people like Al Gore and the Hollyweird elite tell you how much energy you get to use this week, what you’re going to eat this week, how many children you may or may not be permitted to conceive, and what you may or may not listen to on the radio or watch on television? You’re fooling yourselves if you think you’ll maintain any level of personal freedoms under this bunch of leftists. You bunch of babies are so spoiled. You hit a little rough spot and you’re ready to turn belly up and ask some useless bureaucrat to make your life wonderful. This is such idiocy! Don’t you know your grandparents and parents went through things too? Yeah, they’re called “tough times” you bunch of geniuses. Try something really unique for a liberal — just this once. Try forming opinions out of rational thought instead of emotions.
Pray people — pray like you’ve never prayed before that this colossal fraud Obama will be unsuccessful tomorrow.
Posted by: BlueCaddy65 | November 3, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Frank, dude, you’ve lost it. Even Hawaii’s governor has confirmed his certificate’s legitimacy.
Why I’m voting for Obama- and no, he does not pay me- I pay him.
I am only 18 years old and an independent- meaning NPA. Last year they removed a cancerous tumor from my body. Last year I was taken from my mother, but not long enough to be supported by the state. With everyone scrambling to pay their mortgages and debts off where does that put me for a job. I get by on financial aid and scholarships and loans- loans I may not be guaranteed to pay off in the future. So why don’t I deserve a $4000 tax credit in return for serving my country and community? Why wouldn’t I vote for a guy who believes healthcare is a right, and not a privelege? I have a predisposition and what insurance would take people like me. I believe people like you who claim voting for Obama is SOOOO BADDD are really ignorant.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
It’s a real shame that this pathetic news story allows 30 yahoos shouting and disrupting from the parking lot to overshadow the fact that upwards of 5,000 people showed up for a peaceable rally (I was there, so I speak from first-hand observation). Perhaps, in addition to quoting all of their signs and chants, the author should have interviewed everyone of the protesters and turned this into a much longer piece. I know news jockeys have to find a hook, and to appear “fair and balanced,” but this story is pathetic.
Posted by: RoyalScam | November 3, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
“Here’s the litmus test for undecided voters. If some things in life are more important to you than money, you could be a Democrat. If nothing in life is more important to you than money, you ARE a Republican. I’ve already voted for Obama. I didn’t think that America’s stature in the world would be enhanced by Simple Sarah’s lack of foreign policy experience and Jovial John is just more Bush. Remember, the GOP stands for Grease Our Palms, Grab Our Profits and Give Others Poverty.”
Democrats make promises to end poverty. Has poverty ended? No. They are just buying votes to secure their own power. It is time to face the truth. Democrats are only concerned with power, through which they get obscenely rich, while pointing fingers at Republicans.
Democrats blame the VERY thing they are doing on their opponent. It is a way to muddy the waters and diffuse blame. Equivocation I believe is the word. Where I come from, it is called bs.
Posted by: broken glass | November 3, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
USE YOUR VOICES USE YOUR VOTE!
OBAMA/BIDEN 08′
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OBAMA/BIDEN 08′
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Posted by: ~~Wendy~~ | November 3, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
“Frank, dude, you’ve lost it. Even Hawaii’s governor has confirmed his certificate’s legitimacy.” Hawaii is a Democratic state, why WOULDN’T they support anything the Messiah says. Dude, you are more transparent than I originally thought. You still have not come up with any legitimate responses to ANY of my 12 talking points earlier. I don’t fight with seminar bloggers, but if Obama get’s in I DO want part of your pay check his campaign is giving you…….hey that’s fair, just like the One says. :)
Posted by: Frank | November 3, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Wendy, you want to move our country away from where it has ever been. If you know where that is, you sure won’t be specific. But it won’t ever be “back” as you say. It may never recover from your candidate but I believe McCain/Palin will win.
So get out and vote!
McCain/Palin /’08
Posted by: broken glass | November 3, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Democracy lasts only until the people realize they can vote themselves a living from the national treasury. “Matteroffacts” and this years election are proof of that.
We need to begin to think about how we can prevent people from voting who either (1) receive a regular check from the government (above a certain annual minimum) or (2) pay no net taxes. Else our democracy is truly doomed.
Posted by: Romeo | November 3, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Frank you’re a deutsch bag.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Romeo- I don’t know what you’re getting at, but the only government checks I receive is financial aid- All awarded to me based on my academics- MY BRAIN and my potential.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
I would try and spread the intellect, but that’s impossible.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I don’t know why I waste my time with you “BOZOS”. I’ve already cast my vote and so have a third of the country by now.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
“Frank you’re a deutsch bag.”
ROFLMAO……Your honor, the defense rests!!!
Posted by: Frank | November 3, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Wow, I’m glad these comment pages seem to count for the RNC’s “Get Out The Vote.”
You guys sure are loud.
You’ve convinced me by shouting over me.
Posted by: Timely? | November 3, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Michelle is one ugly ass, angry militant racist gorilla, dontcha think?
ugggghh, go back to Kenya b*tch!
Posted by: MONKEY HOUSE | November 3, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
I find it so humorous to come on here, read the personal insults by Obama supporters about those voting for McCain and then have them suggest that Republicans are the ones that are divisive. Suggesting ignorance is such a great to find common ground, don’t you think?
Posted by: texasmom | November 3, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
I CAN’T GET THESE TIRE MARKS OFF’N ME, FROM WHEN THAT DAMN BUCKY THREW ME UNDER THE BUS!
Posted by: GRANNY TOOT | November 3, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Matteroffacts, very wise people throughout the ages have said that we endanger democracy when we allow people to vote who are net takers rather than net givers to the treasury.
I have no problem with you receiving taxpayer-subsidized financial aid. I would say though that if the tax subsidy you receive is above a certain annual minimum — just to make up a figure, lets’ say $5,000 — then we need to think about whether you should be voting in the years when you receive such tax subsidies. (One solution that would allow you to vote all that you want would be to get the government out of the college financial aid business altogether.)
Also note that, because I went to college under the G.I. Bill, I am advocating studying a policy under which I would have also disenfranchised me during my own college years.
Posted by: Romeo | November 3, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Someone mentioned we will no longer be divided. Maybe not North and South, but we are divided coastal and midwest. Come see how we live. Remeber you can all sit back now and strive for nothing you are all lemmings now. I like to give to charities but I hate to be told which ones to give to. Happy days will be here again.
Posted by: Tom | November 3, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
THAT DAMN OBAMMY, HE NEVER COMES TO SEE ME.
NOW HE COMES HERE, HE JUST DOES IT FOR HIMSELF.
THAT DAMN A$$HOLE!
I TOLE HIM, YOU CAN PUT LIPSTICK ON MICHELLE, BUT IT’S STILL A GORILLA!
Posted by: GRANNY TOOT | November 3, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Romeo- I don’t know what country you live in, but I live in the U.S.A.- a democracy, where my self-interests and interests for my family are supposed to drive me to vote. By the way if you’re implying a voter tax for people who get financial aid or any gov’t whatsoever that’s the lamest crap I ever heard. A democracy does not disenfranchise people- at ALL.
Posted by: Matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
where has Michelle been lately? They got that hoe locked up in the closet with her big a$$ and big mouth!
Posted by: HIDEY HOE AND THE MOFO | November 3, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Matter of Fact:
Sorry about the tumor dude. In the future, when the government runs the health care system your ability to collect on your right will depend on if you are worth “the system” spending money on you. Good luck. Check on some people in the same boat in Canada and UK and let me know how they fare under gov’t healthcare. Let’s see, they fail at delivering our mail, they fail at registering our cars, they fail at protecting our borders, but they are certain to do a great job taking care of our health care? Care for another glass of koolaid?
Posted by: Wilbur | November 3, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Matter of Fact:
Sorry about the tumor dude. In the future, when the government runs the health care system your ability to collect on your right will depend on if you are worth “the system” spending money on you. Good luck. Check on some people in the same boat in Canada and UK and let me know how they fare under gov’t healthcare. Let’s see, they fail at delivering our mail, they fail at registering our cars, they fail at protecting our borders, but they are certain to do a great job taking care of our health care? Care for another glass of koolaid?
Posted by: Wilbur | November 3, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Actually, I was thinking more like Denmark. But too bad I won’t need to have to leave the country since Obama has a good chance in becoming president.
Posted by: matteroffacts | November 3, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Oh I never suggested you move dude. Just check it out. Whatever the govt gives you with one hand they take away with the other. Wanna live like denmark? What’s the unemployment rate there? While there are a lot of factors that go into life expectancy, I doubt that the LE in Denmark is demonstrably better than the U.S.–how can that be, everyone is getting “great” healthcare. Good luck dude, but I think under a govt healthcare system you may find yourself “expendable”
Posted by: wilbur | November 4, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am